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<v Speaker 2>Simple questions for one hundred people. Welcome to the experiment.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Bill Correll, and this is my investigation. I'm researching

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<v Speaker 2>to gather data from one hundred beautiful human beings for

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<v Speaker 2>the sole purpose to see what actually happens across the interviews. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the questions are fixed and all the interviews will remain consistent,

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<v Speaker 2>the variable being the actual participants themselves and their answers.

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<v Speaker 2>So Matti says, if I'm having you come sit on

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<v Speaker 2>my porch to share your thoughts so I can learn

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<v Speaker 2>about people. We're looking forward to what we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>learn when we're done with this whole thing. But mostly

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<v Speaker 2>we're interested in the people, the process, and in your

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<v Speaker 2>particular story. So with all that said, what is your

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<v Speaker 2>full name.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Matthew jusequal.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a middle initial or a middle name? Kay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Carl, Carl Okay, great Carl with a K. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a great that's a great name.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me a little bit about your about your last name.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, it's Jessicual. We're let's see family strunk. Uh, Paris, France.

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<v Speaker 3>Originally many many residents moons ago, but uh, that's it's

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<v Speaker 3>originally from France, and according to came from Paris, France

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<v Speaker 3>into northern Canada and then ended up in Sus Saint Marie, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>And then my grandfather ended up in Alpina and so,

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<v Speaker 3>and I also have a part of my family that

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<v Speaker 3>apparently is down in New Orleans area, So apparently by

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<v Speaker 3>Bayou side of the family, which have didn't even know

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<v Speaker 3>they even existed, to be honest with you up until

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<v Speaker 3>a few years ago, by doing genealogy.

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<v Speaker 2>So so it sounds like you were part of the

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<v Speaker 2>original knock migration from Canada. Canada, you come down here

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<v Speaker 2>you huh.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, a little bit. Literally, the family came from a

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<v Speaker 3>part of the family settled in Sus Saint Marie. The

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<v Speaker 3>other part came into Michigan and literally passed through Canada

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<v Speaker 3>on the way in. But that's kind of the way

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<v Speaker 3>it came across. And so no, kind of a different

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<v Speaker 3>point of view. But most of them, or I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>say most, there's a few that are there. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>few still in France, there's a few, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple other spots all over, So we just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of listen and go from there.

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<v Speaker 2>So have you met any of the French people I've taught.

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<v Speaker 3>I've messaged back and forth with one I believe would

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<v Speaker 3>be a cousin who's a doctor over in Paris, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was just messaging back and forth a little bit. Basically.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like, you know, kind of hey, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I got a message to one day over Facebook of

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<v Speaker 3>so I think we're related. Now, well, you know, with

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<v Speaker 3>the spelling of the last name, it kind of makes

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<v Speaker 3>it look that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, you have a very distinctive name. You're my first,

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<v Speaker 2>actually you're my second. Your wife was my first. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I have a rather uncommon name also, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's getting more common all the time. C O R

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<v Speaker 2>R E L L. And then there are lots of

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<v Speaker 2>variations of that. So what's your favorite nickname, Matt that

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<v Speaker 2>most people don't know?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, well, I guess it would go back a long

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<v Speaker 3>long time. For a long time, or for a while,

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<v Speaker 3>my father and a couple of his friends called me matador.

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<v Speaker 3>And my dad said it was because basically I was

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<v Speaker 3>the I'm still the smallest of the four boys that

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<v Speaker 3>my father had, six three, two sixty. I'm a little

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<v Speaker 3>little one, okay, yeah, and uh, he basically used to

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<v Speaker 3>sit there and I'm the youngest by five years, and

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<v Speaker 3>so they were all bigger, all older than me, and

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<v Speaker 3>he said it was always he was. He basically would

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<v Speaker 3>compare me to a matador trying to face down three balls,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, he always sat there and goes just

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there's most matadors would have ran, and you

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<v Speaker 3>continued to face the problem. So he used to basically

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<v Speaker 3>tell me I was stubborn as a bull and sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>meaner than.

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<v Speaker 2>The ball, so you had what you needed to be

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<v Speaker 2>a man at or'. That's pretty cool. So we'll move

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<v Speaker 2>into the next question, which is when did you first

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<v Speaker 2>notice what color hair you had.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I want to say that it would have been

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<v Speaker 3>probably about four or five years old, and it happened

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<v Speaker 3>actually because my hair changed color. My hair had a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of a red tinge to it. As a

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<v Speaker 3>matter of fact, according to looking at my first haircut,

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<v Speaker 3>my hair was red, which my grandmother's nickname had been

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<v Speaker 3>red because she had like a deep auburn color hair.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, it's kind of one of those weird

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<v Speaker 3>things when you look back and go, hold on, this

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<v Speaker 3>definitely is not red, you know, And it was just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of unique to realize, you know, I have this

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<v Speaker 3>darker colored hair than and my hair is different than

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<v Speaker 3>all my brothers as well. They all have like kinky,

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<v Speaker 3>curly your hair, and theirs was almost jet black all

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<v Speaker 3>the time, and then mine kind of stayed a little

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<v Speaker 3>lighter brown.

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<v Speaker 2>So just interesting, yeah, it is. And having being the

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<v Speaker 2>youngest of four no sisters, right, just all boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, no. My dad's favorite comment to us was

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<v Speaker 3>especially like when Jen started coming around and he realized

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<v Speaker 3>how serious things were with Jen and I, he used

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<v Speaker 3>to turn to me and go, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 3>remember him making this statement because I told him the

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<v Speaker 3>one day I'm like, you know, her dad made a

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<v Speaker 3>comment about you know, if I ever heard her, he'd

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<v Speaker 3>kill me. And my dad looked at me and goes,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have to worry about that, Matt. By the

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<v Speaker 3>time Gerard got out here, do you know to be

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<v Speaker 3>in a hole? Yeah, I'm like what, he goes, that's

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<v Speaker 3>my daughter. I got four you I can lose one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's no big deal. Yeah, I'm like Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's one of those father son conversations that I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of us have been through. Yep, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>take you, but we really love jen perfect. So what's

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<v Speaker 2>your favorite thing to do to intentionally waste time?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly? Cooking? Just to sit down and go out on

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<v Speaker 3>the grill, cook on the grill, cook in the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 3>even sometimes bake. I'm not a big baker, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>times where it's just I just lose myself in the

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<v Speaker 3>cooking and can enjoy myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The kids used to laugh at me because every time

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be cooking, I'd be whistling and laughing and singing,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like, the hell are you doing? So it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of one of my favorite things. Sometimes it's just

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<v Speaker 3>on my day off, I'll just go out and start

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<v Speaker 3>the smoker and cook all day long.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, So, so tell me about your favorite

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<v Speaker 2>things to cook and or smoke.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see. I love ribs, I've gotten a point.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your favorite? Like baby bag?

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<v Speaker 3>I like, I like all of them, Honestly, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I like to try different things. So when Jena and

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<v Speaker 3>I've traveled, I have a tendency to try and pick

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<v Speaker 3>a barbecue place at every every stop we make. So

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<v Speaker 3>I tend to when we're in Texas, I love trying

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<v Speaker 3>the Texas barbecue with it is you know, pretty strict

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<v Speaker 3>and just salt pepper and that's all there is to it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the same type of thing for the when

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<v Speaker 3>we went through Kansas City, trying certain things there. I like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm the guy that I make my own

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<v Speaker 3>own barbecue sauce. I have three different varieties of barbecue sauce.

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<v Speaker 3>I make, you know, my own spice rubs for everything.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I said, I will do just about I

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<v Speaker 3>can't say have one thing I love more than others

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<v Speaker 3>other than like I said, I like doing pork, ribs,

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<v Speaker 3>spare rubs. Mainly Jen likes the baby backs, so I

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<v Speaker 3>tend to do those and then those I've gotten to

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<v Speaker 3>the point like you know, when I start start a pack,

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<v Speaker 3>when I start a round of baby backs, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm tied up for four hours. So yeah, so that's

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<v Speaker 3>the fun part of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>So you and I could talk about barbecuing and cooking

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<v Speaker 2>in particular for hours. Yes, let us just decide that

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<v Speaker 2>we'll do that at another time, because there's to be

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<v Speaker 2>explored here, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, there is.

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<v Speaker 2>So you and I if somebody asked us about cooking,

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<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't necessarily think that was intentionally wasting time. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just something doing what we love, right, Yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 3>And it isn't. I shouldn't say wasting time. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>it's a way for me to pass the time, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just it's also my way of sharing what

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<v Speaker 3>what I grew up with with my kids, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's funny because I love bold flavor, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my father was the day you know, my dad was

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<v Speaker 3>a truck driver. So for from the time I was

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<v Speaker 3>four actually, I guess my first time in a semi

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<v Speaker 3>was I was two till he was or til I

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<v Speaker 3>was fourteen, which is when he kind of he got

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<v Speaker 3>hurt me to stop truck driving. You know. For those

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<v Speaker 3>twelve years, he and I would all summer, I would

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<v Speaker 3>go all over the country with my dad and he

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<v Speaker 3>would be and it was so funny because I love

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<v Speaker 3>my mother. She was a good cook, but she didn't

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<v Speaker 3>use a lot of spices and flavorings. And she'd say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's because your dad doesn't like, you know, that type

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<v Speaker 3>of food. But every time we went out, my dad

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<v Speaker 3>would find the places that had just huge flavor yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'd be like, you know, and finally at one

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<v Speaker 3>point I looked back and went, I just think mom

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>You may be onto something there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So that was a fun part of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I find with people that really like to cook,

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<v Speaker 2>they like all of it. They like shopping for the

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<v Speaker 2>food and being really discriminatory about exactly what they're getting

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<v Speaker 2>and how much pats on it, because you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to slow cook something you don't that's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to bother you at all. It's gonna render out

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<v Speaker 2>and then it'll go right.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, the longer the better.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the knife work and the preparation and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to you know, put it in and

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<v Speaker 2>marinade for a while or overnight or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all just steps in the process. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, well, that's that's the same thing. To turn to

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<v Speaker 3>me the one day and the kids or my my

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<v Speaker 3>son literally just turned to me and went we went

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<v Speaker 3>down and tried place down near him, and he cheered. Run.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, this is probably the closest thing to your

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<v Speaker 3>chicken wings and your your chicken tenders you used to

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<v Speaker 3>make when we were on family vacations. Wow, He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>these are probably the closest things to it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>back and go okay, And and that's his comparison when

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<v Speaker 3>that type of things. He goes, I compare it back

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<v Speaker 3>to your cooking and I sat there and like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>It's magic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, and you know, actually with with him, he's

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<v Speaker 3>this isn't bad and then finding out actually delicious, And

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<v Speaker 3>so you know that was He's the he actually was

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<v Speaker 3>a little more adventurous than Jennini and that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>it's every time we go someplace, we're looking for something different.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's yes, see, there's there's lots of different ways

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<v Speaker 2>to see the world, but from the inside or the

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<v Speaker 2>outside of a restaurant or a gee dunk or you

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<v Speaker 2>know or something like that, not a bad way to go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all experience, isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It, every bit of every bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So this will be an interesting one for you, Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what's your favorite movie to watch alone.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, that's gonna sound stupid, but as far I

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't say alone because honestly, there's nothing I like to

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<v Speaker 3>sit there and just watch by myself. Okay, when Lex

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<v Speaker 3>was around, it would have been some type of comedy

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<v Speaker 3>but scary movie type thing, because that's that was her.

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<v Speaker 3>One of my favorite movies, which is gonna sound stupid,

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<v Speaker 3>is the movie Swat. Not because and everybody's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's because you're a cop. Well no, actually it's the

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<v Speaker 3>training and everything that's behind that and understanding that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's called special it's swats, special weapons and tactics. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the tactics, not the weapons, right, And that's the part

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<v Speaker 3>that always found I found interesting and looking at some

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<v Speaker 3>of the things they did in the movie. And then

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<v Speaker 3>am I've been a police officer going on twenty six years,

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<v Speaker 3>so I've got my firearms instructor, chaser instructor, defensive tactics,

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<v Speaker 3>use of force, pretty much any type of force training.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an instructor in it. And so to look back

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<v Speaker 3>and look at the movie and go, oh, they did

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<v Speaker 3>that shit, right, Yeah, you know, instead of most movies

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<v Speaker 3>where you're look and go, oh, that is absolutely not

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<v Speaker 2>Ye, right exactly. The yeah, rights permitted is what it

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it was. That's one of those shows that

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<v Speaker 3>I still look back and every once in a while

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<v Speaker 3>and if it comes on, I'll sit out and watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, and again, those are the types of

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<v Speaker 3>things that you know, we would I would sit down

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<v Speaker 3>and watch, and then I would find out, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Christian would be hiding around the corner trying to watch

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<v Speaker 3>because you didn't want to let Dad know that you

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<v Speaker 3>liked the movie too. Yeah, you know, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just depending on the show said that, that was probably

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<v Speaker 3>one of the one of those movies that I would

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<v Speaker 3>sit down and watch. But you know, still to this day,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the movies I would sit down and watch

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<v Speaker 3>in a heartbeat would be There's Two Labyrinths.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, why they just went out of my head. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Princess Bray.

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<v Speaker 2>Inconceivable. Absolutely, you know, I'll tell you that's fantastic. And

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<v Speaker 2>and by the way, not not to step over it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much for your service. I very much

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate what rolled off of your tongue twenty six years

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<v Speaker 2>as a cop. I appreciate you, I really do, especially

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<v Speaker 2>these days. Thank you for your service, no problem. Yeah, So,

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<v Speaker 2>now that we've got the movies handled, I know, anything

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<v Speaker 2>with David Bowie is all right with me, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And Mandy Patankin is not a bad actor either, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Any Montoya, here's where we get it, where we get

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<v Speaker 2>get into some fun, especially with somebody who's on the job.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were to have an action figure made to you,

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<v Speaker 2>what superpower would it have and what color would its

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<v Speaker 2>uniform be?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, uniform is going to be blue, even though I

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<v Speaker 3>wear blue and brown I work, you know, I actually

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<v Speaker 3>work for a couple of different entities, but twenty six

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<v Speaker 3>years i've worn blue. Yeah, so I would stick with

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<v Speaker 3>it would be well, probably a combination of red, white,

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<v Speaker 3>and blue, just to be honest with you. Yeah. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I look back at a family history of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I have three brothers that were all in three different

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<v Speaker 3>branches of the military, which Army or Navy, Marines, and

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<v Speaker 3>Air Force. And then my father was in the army.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I have three uncles that were in the military,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, lost one uncle in Vietnam. And so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I always honor that side because I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>do that portion of it, and you know, there's times

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<v Speaker 3>I think back going, but you know, I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 3>glad the way things worked out because i'd have done

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<v Speaker 3>the military, I would have met Jen.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, things happen the way they're supposed to,

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<v Speaker 2>don't they. Yep. Yeah. The other thing too, is I

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<v Speaker 2>think we find it a little with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>first responders, seventy to eighty percent of them are our

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<v Speaker 2>x EX military yep. Yeah, which is actually yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it depends. Actually around here, what we're finding is

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<v Speaker 3>about probably about between thirty and forty five percent military, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the rest either went to school for it

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<v Speaker 3>or there's a couple guys that literally, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>they're young enough to be my kids that literally just

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<v Speaker 3>went through the academy and I'm looking at them like

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<v Speaker 3>I have a child that's older than you, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And it's fun It's funny because literally I've known him

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<v Speaker 3>our local Sheriff's department. And you know, literally he and

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<v Speaker 3>I sat down last week and he goes, he goes.

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<v Speaker 3>You know how many times I would sit there and

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<v Speaker 3>ask you questions and I said, I know, and he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>and he goes. Now I expind myself asking questions. He goes,

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<v Speaker 3>But now I'm actually listening and you know, and trying

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<v Speaker 3>to learn, because he goes, he turned, he goes. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>he goes, You've got so much knowledge, and he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>and he keeps that, he'll ask me questions. He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>he goes because you have just so much experience that

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<v Speaker 3>what they give you and the academy can't compare to.

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<v Speaker 3>So I take it as as a huge honor to

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<v Speaker 3>sit down with a couple of those guys are going so.

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<v Speaker 2>While so, and I guess that would probably lead to

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<v Speaker 2>your superpower.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Actually, you know it's going to be weird superpower.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's just the ability to stay calm.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a power you already have?

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, sometimes you'd be able to point and click

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more often.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's there's a there's a few points and times

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<v Speaker 3>where you know, I've literally had to walk away and go, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I go to get him out, he's gonna go through

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<v Speaker 3>the window, you know, you know. Or there's been a

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<v Speaker 3>few times where I've literally just turned to him and

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<v Speaker 3>I walk him in, I put him in the jail.

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<v Speaker 3>I look at him. I'm like, here, here's all your paperwork,

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<v Speaker 3>sign and I'm gonna walk out the door. You can,

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<v Speaker 3>you can hand the cuffs out after you get him off.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care. I'm just walking away because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>need to hear his mouth anymore. And they'll look at

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<v Speaker 3>me and they're like, you know, it's funny because some

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<v Speaker 3>of the corrections officers like, gotcha know, and but also

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<v Speaker 3>the one corrections offer goes, we've heard you know, You've

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<v Speaker 3>you've brought in people that are screaming, hollering, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>just like, you know, and then they're like, apparently they

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<v Speaker 2>So you've got the state. But but your mileage may vary, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Depending on the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So, now, what did you want to grow up

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<v Speaker 2>to be when you were five years old?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? You know, in a way, I think I did

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<v Speaker 3>that done my dad just that was you know, my

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<v Speaker 3>dad was the guy that he could do damn near anything.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I mean when you look a guy

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<v Speaker 3>has a full ride scholarship to University of Michigan, joins

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<v Speaker 3>the military, got into West Point and then got kicked

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<v Speaker 3>out of West Point because he wore glasses because at

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<v Speaker 3>that time you couldn't have glasses and be a part

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<v Speaker 3>of West Point. And then his job in the military

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<v Speaker 3>was building Nike missile bases. So he would literally build

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<v Speaker 3>they'd tear it down and move it to a different spot.

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<v Speaker 3>And he went all over the country and sometimes out

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<v Speaker 3>of the country to do that while he was in

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<v Speaker 3>the military. And you just sit there and look back

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<v Speaker 3>and go, Okay, there's got to be something there. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he was also the same guy that would

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<v Speaker 3>sit down and I'd watch him. You know, the Harry

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<v Speaker 3>Potter books when those came out, he read the books

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<v Speaker 3>in two or three days. And the only other person

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<v Speaker 3>and he book's done. And you know, I would sit

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<v Speaker 3>when I read the book, it took me, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>ten days, but just the way they were and how

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<v Speaker 3>they both are, that's fly through it and remember almost

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<v Speaker 3>every word. And you know, that just always impressed me.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, to have a guy who you know,

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<v Speaker 3>laughed at because somebody, you know, some of my friends

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<v Speaker 3>up and I just look at him, like, have you

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<v Speaker 3>ever looked at the size of my father? The guys

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, he's got a beer he's got a little

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<v Speaker 3>in there because he don't drink beer, right, But his

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<v Speaker 3>seen a picture of my father when he was in

420
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:20.160
<v Speaker 3>high school, his senior picture. This guy was five eight

421
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:24.920
<v Speaker 3>and one hundred and thirty eight pounds. Wow, he went

422
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 3>into the military. Still five eight hundred and thirty eight

423
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:34.240
<v Speaker 3>pounds comes out of the military. He's six feet tall,

424
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:39.039
<v Speaker 3>he's two hundred and sixty five pounds, absolutely ripped like

425
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:44.599
<v Speaker 3>a beast. And his first job was at Pontiac Motors,

426
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.039
<v Speaker 3>and his job was picking up the V eight engine

427
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:51.920
<v Speaker 3>block off of one conveyor, carrying it twenty yards to

428
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 3>the next one and did that for eight hours a day.

429
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:57.240
<v Speaker 3>And if my father and the one other guy that

430
00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:00.759
<v Speaker 3>could do it weren't on that shift, the line shut out.

431
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

432
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:07.400
<v Speaker 3>And so I sat there, I'm like, you know, and

433
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:09.880
<v Speaker 3>then my you know, my dad would tell the stories

434
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:13.960
<v Speaker 3>of you know, here he is. He was walked into

435
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:18.680
<v Speaker 3>work in Pontiac Motors by the Black Panthers because that

436
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.200
<v Speaker 3>was back in sixty eight during the riots, and he

437
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:27.920
<v Speaker 3>would get walked. My mother would drive him stop five

438
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:34.599
<v Speaker 3>blocks away from Pontiac assembly line plan stop. My father

439
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:39.599
<v Speaker 3>would meet up with the Black Panthers and you know,

440
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:42.960
<v Speaker 3>eight or ten other employees and they would walk my father.

441
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:44.799
<v Speaker 3>And my father was the only white guy walking in.

442
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm the midnight shift. He's here around, He's like, and

443
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.599
<v Speaker 3>the guys told him, they're like, yeah, no, he goes.

444
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:56.559
<v Speaker 3>These guys are going to walk you in every night

445
00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:58.759
<v Speaker 3>to make sure you make it into work, because if

446
00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:03.640
<v Speaker 3>you're not here, we don't make money, right, And so

447
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.160
<v Speaker 3>and I always laughed at that because here's my dad,

448
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:11.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, good sized guy, and he always sat there.

449
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:16.640
<v Speaker 3>He's like, it's the weirdest thing, and you know, and

450
00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:19.480
<v Speaker 3>I always laughed because I turned to him and somebody say, well,

451
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:22.160
<v Speaker 3>didn't that feel strange, and my dad to go no,

452
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.079
<v Speaker 3>and you'd look at him and they'd be like, well,

453
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.839
<v Speaker 3>but but my dad goes they were all my friends, yes,

454
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:34.839
<v Speaker 3>you know. And I always laugh because people would look

455
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:36.799
<v Speaker 3>at us, you know. And I still have that said

456
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:39.480
<v Speaker 3>to me, a lot of oh, you're a cops, you're racist.

457
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Now look at him like I didn't even know your

458
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:49.400
<v Speaker 3>skin was a different color, you know. And you know,

459
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:51.839
<v Speaker 3>I'll I'll give you one story because I still think

460
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:53.720
<v Speaker 3>this is probably one of the funniest things ever happened

461
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:58.599
<v Speaker 3>on traffic stop with me. I had a car I

462
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:03.160
<v Speaker 3>pulled over for our drug unit calls and says, hey,

463
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:05.720
<v Speaker 3>you need to stop this car. We're pretty sure they

464
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 3>just made a drug pass blah blah blah blah and

465
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:12.160
<v Speaker 3>made a buy off of these people. And I'm like, christ,

466
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:17.160
<v Speaker 3>So I pull this car over and it's an older suburban.

467
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:20.440
<v Speaker 3>The plate on it comes back to Ah, I want

468
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:25.319
<v Speaker 3>to well it was a Paniac or a Chevy and Pala.

469
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:29.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well and pretty much not an Impala. And

470
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:31.680
<v Speaker 3>this is during the middle of COVID time, right, So

471
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.839
<v Speaker 3>there's this whole big rigamarole about run plates and everything else.

472
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:43.559
<v Speaker 3>And so I go up and there's six guys in

473
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:50.559
<v Speaker 3>this car and they're all African American and they're all shaken,

474
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.000
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, I come up and I talk to

475
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:57.160
<v Speaker 3>the one and he's like, you know, the driver, He's like, yeah,

476
00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:58.880
<v Speaker 3>I got a driver's license, but I left it in

477
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 3>the car. I left it in my pants. It's at

478
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:04.079
<v Speaker 3>the hotel and blah blah, blah blah. And he's the

479
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:06.160
<v Speaker 3>only one that actually had a driver's license with the

480
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:09.960
<v Speaker 3>six people in the car, and I'm like, okay, So

481
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm going through and I'm getting everybody's information and I'm

482
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, guys, this is why we're stopped one

483
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.839
<v Speaker 3>because of the plate and this and this, And I said, now,

484
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:23.559
<v Speaker 3>somebody told me you guys made a hand passed with

485
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.799
<v Speaker 3>somebody else. Looked like you passed money for drugs. And

486
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:28.200
<v Speaker 3>the guy goes to the one guy in the back

487
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:33.799
<v Speaker 3>seat goes, I bought we and I'm like, is that

488
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 3>all you bought? Yeah, so you sure? And they're like, well,

489
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:38.599
<v Speaker 3>what do you mean? I said, I don't care about weed.

490
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:44.599
<v Speaker 3>It's Michigan. The law has changed. Weed's legal. I said,

491
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:46.720
<v Speaker 3>is that's all that's in the car, And they're like,

492
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:50.680
<v Speaker 3>well yeah, I said, are you sure? And they're like, uh,

493
00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:54.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, and the one got stopped. I'm like okay,

494
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:56.079
<v Speaker 3>and the other guys said, looking at him, going if

495
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:57.880
<v Speaker 3>you got something else, you better tell him right now.

496
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:00.119
<v Speaker 3>Just let's go. And they're like no, no, no, all

497
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.599
<v Speaker 3>I got to the weed, and I'm like, okay, so

498
00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:04.400
<v Speaker 3>we get them all out. I searched the car and

499
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:08.960
<v Speaker 3>I find, you know, a couple you know, I think

500
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:14.119
<v Speaker 3>it's like four or five cigarettes of marijuana right underneath

501
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.039
<v Speaker 3>that guy where he was seated at you know, he

502
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.480
<v Speaker 3>gave me one, but he put the other four underneath

503
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:21.200
<v Speaker 3>the seat, you know, like I wasn't gonna find it.

504
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.920
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, dude, I don't care. So I walked back.

505
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I hand him his weed. I'm like, is this were

506
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:31.319
<v Speaker 3>those yours? Okay? Here, put them in your pocket. I

507
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:34.839
<v Speaker 3>don't care, and you know, and I pulled him all

508
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:36.920
<v Speaker 3>out and I searched him and I handcuffed each one

509
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.279
<v Speaker 3>and I literally I'm like, guys, only got five pair

510
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:46.160
<v Speaker 3>and they're six ye, so you know, and I looked

511
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:48.200
<v Speaker 3>at two of them. I'm like, do me a favor,

512
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, And you know, I literally hooked two of

513
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.200
<v Speaker 3>them around my bumper, handcuffed to each other, and I'm like,

514
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't think you're gonna drag him through

515
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.440
<v Speaker 3>the bumper. Okay. So we're talking and I back and

516
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:02.480
<v Speaker 3>I unhandcoff them all and I'm putting them all back

517
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:04.799
<v Speaker 3>in the car. And we go back up to the car,

518
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:10.039
<v Speaker 3>and as I'm handing the information back and I'm like, okay,

519
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:13.039
<v Speaker 3>here's your license, here's your license, all right, here's yours,

520
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.559
<v Speaker 3>here's the you know. And I'm like, explain to me

521
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 3>the plate on the car. And the guy goes, well,

522
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.319
<v Speaker 3>I own the plate and I just bought the car

523
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.039
<v Speaker 3>a week ago, and I'm going to transfer that plate,

524
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:25.519
<v Speaker 3>but I can't transfer it until and I looked at him,

525
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:28.400
<v Speaker 3>I said, do me a favor. Somebody get a screw driver,

526
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:30.720
<v Speaker 3>go out and take the plate off. I said, because

527
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.039
<v Speaker 3>right now you've got an improper plate, which means I

528
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:37.279
<v Speaker 3>can toll your vehicle, and I said, which means your

529
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.880
<v Speaker 3>plate can be impounded, the vehicle can be impounded. I said,

530
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:43.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to do any of that stuff. And uh,

531
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.039
<v Speaker 3>As I'm handing the guy the paperwork, he drops his

532
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.680
<v Speaker 3>license and he goes to reach for it, and all

533
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.880
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, he just starts shaking and he's like,

534
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:55.759
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't reaching for anything. I'm like, neither was I. Dude,

535
00:33:55.839 --> 00:34:00.920
<v Speaker 3>just chill out and he goes. And it was so

536
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.839
<v Speaker 3>funny because the guy in the back seat, all of

537
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.680
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, I hear this, and this guy and of

538
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:10.000
<v Speaker 3>course the guy who did it, I mean, he's he's

539
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:12.760
<v Speaker 3>probably one of the darkest guys in the car. And

540
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.280
<v Speaker 3>one of the other guys turns and goes, oh my god,

541
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:16.079
<v Speaker 3>he just turned late.

542
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:18.440
<v Speaker 2>That's funny.

543
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, I'm glad you guys can joke about it.

544
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.199
<v Speaker 3>And they're like no, no, and we're sitting there and

545
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:26.880
<v Speaker 3>we're laughing about I'm like, so I didn't reach for

546
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:29.199
<v Speaker 3>nothing either, dude, don't worry about it. You're all good.

547
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:31.920
<v Speaker 3>And we had the conversation and the guy looks at

548
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:34.880
<v Speaker 3>me and goes, you know, you're probably you're probably the

549
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.320
<v Speaker 3>coolest officer we've ever met. And I said, well, I said,

550
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:39.800
<v Speaker 3>do me a favor. I said, one, drive back to

551
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.199
<v Speaker 3>the hotel. Get your damn driver's license, so you got

552
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.639
<v Speaker 3>it with you for the driver. And he's like, yep.

553
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:48.079
<v Speaker 3>I said, go back to the hotel. You're only a

554
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:51.159
<v Speaker 3>mile away. Go back, get your driver's license. Drive out

555
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:52.920
<v Speaker 3>to Saga do get the stuff done. You guys got

556
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:54.840
<v Speaker 3>to get done out there. Come on back because they're

557
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:59.400
<v Speaker 3>working here in town. And I said, and we'll call

558
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.559
<v Speaker 3>it good. I said, but make sure that plate's not

559
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:03.599
<v Speaker 3>on this vehicle any longer. I said. You guys don't

560
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.760
<v Speaker 3>need the headaches, you know. And I said if you've

561
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.079
<v Speaker 3>got an appointment scheduled, and he's like, well, I do,

562
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:11.760
<v Speaker 3>but it's not for six and a half months. I said, okay,

563
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:15.599
<v Speaker 3>drive around with little license plate. I said, you got insurance. Yeah, okay,

564
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:19.440
<v Speaker 3>have fun, man, I said, you might get stopped. I said,

565
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:22.119
<v Speaker 3>but it's easier for me for us to deal with this,

566
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:23.840
<v Speaker 3>for with you saying, hey, look here I got the

567
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:26.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, I've got an appointment. I got all this scheduled.

568
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I said, I can deal with that a lot easier

569
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.760
<v Speaker 3>than that bad plate. And the guy looks at me

570
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:35.360
<v Speaker 3>and goes, wow. He goes, you're probably the coolest officer

571
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:37.559
<v Speaker 3>we ever met. I said, well, that's cool. I said,

572
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 3>you guys have a great day, you know, send them

573
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 3>on their way. And about three days goes by and

574
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm not paying attention. I I have a tendency every

575
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:51.119
<v Speaker 3>once in a while I'll stop and I would get

576
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:58.760
<v Speaker 3>gin a diet coke from McDonald's, right, so just pull

577
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:02.400
<v Speaker 3>up and order her a diet coke. And I'm sitting

578
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:03.800
<v Speaker 3>there and all of a sudden, they're like, yeah, the

579
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:07.360
<v Speaker 3>car in front of it paid for your paid for

580
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 3>your drink. And I'm like, oh, okay, and I look

581
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:14.039
<v Speaker 3>up and I see it. All six were in the

582
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:15.159
<v Speaker 3>car waving at the back.

583
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:20.880
<v Speaker 2>You got a fan club now, and I'm like, you know.

584
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 3>I wave. I'm like, thank you, guys, have a great day.

585
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:26.679
<v Speaker 3>Boom boom boom done. And I laughed because I've seen him.

586
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:29.880
<v Speaker 3>About a week later, they're in the parking lot of

587
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:31.880
<v Speaker 3>the hotel where they were at. I'm like, hey, how's

588
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Speaker 3>everything going, and they're like, sweet, oh, it's good. That's

589
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 3>We're glad at you. You know, answered a couple questions

590
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 3>for him and on the way, and you know, it

591
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:44.360
<v Speaker 3>was just funny because the one guy torontoes. I've never

592
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:48.280
<v Speaker 3>dealt with a police officer who you know that we

593
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:50.880
<v Speaker 3>didn't have problems with. And I looked at her, do

594
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:53.159
<v Speaker 3>me a favor. I said, you know, your buddy, here's

595
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:56.760
<v Speaker 3>got to warrant. I'll take care of I said, you're

596
00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:59.159
<v Speaker 3>making money now, so it's one hundred dollars, fine, go

597
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:05.199
<v Speaker 3>pay it all. Oh, okay, cool, you know, but it

598
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.039
<v Speaker 3>was just unique to sit there and have that conversation

599
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:09.639
<v Speaker 3>with them and have them look at me and go,

600
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:14.639
<v Speaker 3>you're not the normal police officer. And I said, never happened.

601
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:21.119
<v Speaker 2>You know what. I appreciate that. And I think you

602
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:23.880
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know what it's like, you know, especially

603
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.519
<v Speaker 2>around that area. My dad was raised in Detroit in

604
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.079
<v Speaker 2>the city. My grandparents lived about six blocks off at

605
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Algiers where the riots were. Yeah, and I don't remember

606
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.760
<v Speaker 2>for sure what street they were on because they moved

607
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:41.000
<v Speaker 2>after that, but it was, you know, it was downtown.

608
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:46.679
<v Speaker 2>And he had the same kind of stories. He was

609
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:53.280
<v Speaker 2>a chief's supervisor or superintendent at Chrysler, you know, an

610
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 2>axle plant or something, and he said, ninety percent of

611
00:37:57.320 --> 00:37:59.559
<v Speaker 2>the people that work for me or black, he said.

612
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:02.519
<v Speaker 2>And he said, and they don't get away with anything.

613
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Nope, you know, and I laughed because they you know, like,

614
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:12.039
<v Speaker 3>these guys were sitting there and I actually just seen

615
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:17.599
<v Speaker 3>one of them because they're One of the guys is

616
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:20.920
<v Speaker 3>back working for the same company. H Michigan Sugar has

617
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:24.519
<v Speaker 3>a big sugar plant all bite near us and they

618
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:29.199
<v Speaker 3>have a substation just outside of Sandusky. And the guy's

619
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:33.320
<v Speaker 3>back working and he's like, this is so neat that

620
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:36.599
<v Speaker 3>you're you know that you know you're still here. And

621
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:39.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, yeah, I do, no big deal, you know,

622
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:42.079
<v Speaker 3>and he It was funny because Toronto goes you probably

623
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<v Speaker 3>don't recognize me. I'm like, I looked at him, like no,

624
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:47.079
<v Speaker 3>but I recognize the suburban.

625
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<v Speaker 2>There you go. You know, that's one of the cool

626
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:53.440
<v Speaker 2>things about the line of work that you're in. You

627
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:55.880
<v Speaker 2>have the days that are stressful, but you also have

628
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<v Speaker 2>the stories where you can have just this basic human

629
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:03.400
<v Speaker 2>connection with people. And so I'm going to ask you,

630
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:06.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, what would you say your greatest accomplishment is,

631
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<v Speaker 2>h Well, that.

632
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<v Speaker 3>Would be the two people we raised. Yeah, those two.

633
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:31.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean I looked back and Lex was you know,

634
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:36.679
<v Speaker 3>she's a chip off of her mother. You know, when

635
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 3>you look back and realize, you know, here's a girl

636
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:44.079
<v Speaker 3>who I used to tell us they weren't they weren't volunteered.

637
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:48.920
<v Speaker 3>They were volunteered to do things, which they were, and

638
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.440
<v Speaker 3>but they did so many different things. You know, they

639
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:56.840
<v Speaker 3>helped with kids, camps for underprivileged children, they helped with

640
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:00.239
<v Speaker 3>kids that were you know, LEXI spent time I'm at

641
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:03.159
<v Speaker 3>the child Advocacy Center. And then for her to go

642
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:06.239
<v Speaker 3>back to school and her to make a decision that

643
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:12.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, her degree was in nonprofit administration, so she

644
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:18.239
<v Speaker 3>wanted to do what her mother was doing. Yeah, and

645
00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:23.719
<v Speaker 3>so that was a huge one. And then with Christian

646
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:29.000
<v Speaker 3>his I still think it was funny. But he always

647
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.320
<v Speaker 3>told us he wanted to be a pilot, and we

648
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:33.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean we actually have pictures his one of his

649
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.159
<v Speaker 3>senior pictures is him in a Western church because they

650
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.960
<v Speaker 3>had the pilot program. And he literally, I mean when

651
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:42.880
<v Speaker 3>we visited Western, he turned and he's like, I'm not

652
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:44.519
<v Speaker 3>going to need a dorm room. I'll be living here

653
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:47.000
<v Speaker 3>at the you know, at the airport, you know type thing.

654
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:49.920
<v Speaker 3>And we were all like, okay, that's where he's going

655
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.760
<v Speaker 3>to go and then all of a sudden, just before

656
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:55.360
<v Speaker 3>the end of his senior year, he chose to go

657
00:40:55.360 --> 00:41:01.239
<v Speaker 3>to Central Michigan. And were looked at him and I'm like, okay,

658
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 3>why and he looks at me and goes, well, you know, Dad,

659
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.480
<v Speaker 3>I can He goes, I can go to school for

660
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:11.440
<v Speaker 3>four years at Central. He goes, it's gonna goes. They're

661
00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:14.000
<v Speaker 3>not offering many scholarships. They're not offering this, They're not

662
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:18.519
<v Speaker 3>offering that. He said, you know, after four years of

663
00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:23.360
<v Speaker 3>schooling maybe five, because the way the program is, I

664
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:25.960
<v Speaker 3>could be making close to one hundred thousand dollars a year,

665
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.400
<v Speaker 3>but I also have probably one hundred and fifty thousand

666
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:33.400
<v Speaker 3>dollars in debt. I said, Okay, he goes, Central's offering

667
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:36.480
<v Speaker 3>me a scholarship. I can go to school. I can

668
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:39.920
<v Speaker 3>work in IT technology, I can get my degree. I

669
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:44.400
<v Speaker 3>can and then his other aspect of that was but

670
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:46.000
<v Speaker 3>in order to make that one hundred and ten one

671
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.440
<v Speaker 3>hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year, I'm never home.

672
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.440
<v Speaker 3>I said, Okay, he goes. If I go to school

673
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.239
<v Speaker 3>for IT technology, I can make one hundred and ten

674
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:59.239
<v Speaker 3>thousand for my basement and I looked at him. I said, yep,

675
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.039
<v Speaker 3>you're right, and I turned and I said, now I

676
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:04.280
<v Speaker 3>want you to remember one key thing of how you

677
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:05.920
<v Speaker 3>said this. And he goes, what's that? I said, you

678
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:10.559
<v Speaker 3>said your basement, not my basement, your basement. And he

679
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:12.719
<v Speaker 3>looked and goes, oh, I see how it's gonna be,

680
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:15.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, But it was just it was a running joke.

681
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:19.480
<v Speaker 3>But because he literally I remember him telling my wife,

682
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, I think he was like eight or nine,

683
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:26.199
<v Speaker 3>and he told her. He goes, well, you know, I'm

684
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.639
<v Speaker 3>gonna go get married and then me and my wife

685
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:30.599
<v Speaker 3>are going to move in here with you guys. And

686
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:35.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, hell now, uhh. And you know, because he

687
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:39.519
<v Speaker 3>just loved to be home, you know, and he's kind

688
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:42.119
<v Speaker 3>of a homebody. But he's also, like I said, he's

689
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:44.480
<v Speaker 3>the kid that would try anything when it came to food,

690
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:47.639
<v Speaker 3>and you know, he was the challenge. He was the

691
00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:51.880
<v Speaker 3>one that you'd sit there and go okay, and you know,

692
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.400
<v Speaker 3>my daughter was easy because it's gonna be it's either

693
00:42:55.400 --> 00:43:02.360
<v Speaker 3>spaghetti or it's gonna be chicken tenders and French friends.

694
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:05.280
<v Speaker 3>And then here he is going, oh no, I want

695
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:08.320
<v Speaker 3>sushi and I want this and I want this and

696
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:11.239
<v Speaker 3>I want to try, you know. You know, he's the

697
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:14.000
<v Speaker 3>kid who churning to me the one day he goes, yeah,

698
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:19.400
<v Speaker 3>did you see that rattlesnake on the menu? And I

699
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:23.880
<v Speaker 3>looked him like it tastes like chicken, you know yeah,

700
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:28.360
<v Speaker 3>And he looks, goes, how do you know, I said, Grandpapa.

701
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:33.039
<v Speaker 2>You know yeah, I mean you see that movie everything

702
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:37.840
<v Speaker 2>tastes like chicken. It came from the Matrix. It was

703
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:45.239
<v Speaker 2>so beautiful, beautiful kids. And you know, I also want

704
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:47.440
<v Speaker 2>to just say I'm so sorry about your your loss

705
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 2>with lex, you know, because she was an extraordinary young lady.

706
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:55.000
<v Speaker 2>And I don't really want to cut you short or

707
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:57.800
<v Speaker 2>take you something you really don't want to talk. But

708
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm real interested in who your favorite person to listen

709
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:01.760
<v Speaker 2>to is.

710
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:13.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, I let's let's see. As far as music goes,

711
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:20.320
<v Speaker 3>I listen from anything from Beethoven to Metallica and a

712
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:26.400
<v Speaker 3>C D C yep and I and and I love

713
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:30.480
<v Speaker 3>all kinds of kinds of music, which I still to

714
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:35.599
<v Speaker 3>this day in the same way. I mean, my dad

715
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:39.960
<v Speaker 3>used to pick on me, you know, because my father

716
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:46.440
<v Speaker 3>was the guy who played uh, let's see, he played

717
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:52.480
<v Speaker 3>baritone bass, sax trouble trouble saxophone, and he played five

718
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:56.480
<v Speaker 3>different saxophones in the clarinet when he was in high school.

719
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:01.760
<v Speaker 3>And then I'm the guy who I play. I played

720
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 3>the clarinet for a year, I got switched to tuba,

721
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:07.519
<v Speaker 3>and then in the middle of that I played tuba

722
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:11.639
<v Speaker 3>and trombone and then baritone, and then the percussion system

723
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:15.039
<v Speaker 3>would play the drums during and literally there were times

724
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:18.719
<v Speaker 3>during certain songs when I was in band that I

725
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:20.840
<v Speaker 3>would put down my tube and go over and play

726
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.039
<v Speaker 3>the timpani and then come back and pick up my

727
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:26.800
<v Speaker 3>tuba in the middle of the same song. And you know,

728
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 3>just in general, I just love any type of music,

729
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:38.119
<v Speaker 3>and that's where I would sit down, and to this day,

730
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:41.840
<v Speaker 3>I will sit down and listen to just about anything. Yeah,

731
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:47.320
<v Speaker 3>and there's and I really can't say there's. I don't

732
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:57.440
<v Speaker 3>really have a favorite song. Well I do, but that

733
00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:58.440
<v Speaker 3>has more to do with.

734
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

735
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:05.800
<v Speaker 3>So that was the song that we chose as our

736
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:06.400
<v Speaker 3>wedding song.

737
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:11.440
<v Speaker 2>So an our song, right, Yeah, I think people who

738
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:13.239
<v Speaker 2>are in love with each other have an hour song.

739
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:16.559
<v Speaker 2>If you're not in love with each other, they don't

740
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:18.119
<v Speaker 2>have our songs for some reason.

741
00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:25.599
<v Speaker 3>No, no, so's.

742
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:28.880
<v Speaker 2>It's this is great stuff, you know, and so you know,

743
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how old you are, but please complete

744
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:33.960
<v Speaker 2>this sentence when I grow up, I'd like to.

745
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, that's changed so much now. My goal and I

746
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:52.639
<v Speaker 3>part of my job is I go into the schools

747
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.360
<v Speaker 3>and I teach a program called Team, which is teaching, educating,

748
00:46:55.400 --> 00:47:02.599
<v Speaker 3>and mentoring, and that has that's more of a passion

749
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:08.199
<v Speaker 3>now in working with the kids, you know, because I

750
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:11.440
<v Speaker 3>teach programs from k all the way up through kindergarten

751
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:17.280
<v Speaker 3>all the way through twelfth grade. And then because of

752
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:21.599
<v Speaker 3>the kids, I went and got my self defense classes

753
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 3>because I literally was at one school and I asked

754
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:28.360
<v Speaker 3>the kids, what's one thing that we've talked about or

755
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.519
<v Speaker 3>something that we didn't talk about that you think you

756
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.880
<v Speaker 3>should know? And I had twenty two girls out of

757
00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:37.079
<v Speaker 3>a twenty eight the senior class the one year out

758
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:39.320
<v Speaker 3>of the one school, there was like twenty eight kids

759
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.880
<v Speaker 3>and there's only like six boys. And all twenty two

760
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:46.320
<v Speaker 3>girls told me the same thing. They wanted a self

761
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:50.079
<v Speaker 3>defense class, and they felt that that was something they needed.

762
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:55.320
<v Speaker 3>And so I started researching into self defense courses and

763
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:59.079
<v Speaker 3>found that there was one that I really liked, and

764
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:02.840
<v Speaker 3>it was something i'd been interested in for or you know,

765
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:06.800
<v Speaker 3>had looked into several years ago for myself, right, And

766
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:11.599
<v Speaker 3>so I started taking the classes on my own for

767
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:15.679
<v Speaker 3>myself that I found a class that actually incorporated for

768
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:20.320
<v Speaker 3>law enforcement, and then took the Personal Defense Readiness course

769
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:25.880
<v Speaker 3>through SPEAR. And you know, I think just being able

770
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:29.639
<v Speaker 3>to impart that knowledge to these kids in all these

771
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:35.679
<v Speaker 3>different topics, whether it's you know, teaching about vaping and

772
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:37.800
<v Speaker 3>you know. And I tell the kids, I said, you know,

773
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.920
<v Speaker 3>my job is not to harp on you and tell

774
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:43.800
<v Speaker 3>you what bad things are going to happen to you. Right.

775
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.960
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you what the law is, but I

776
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:50.159
<v Speaker 3>also know the law doesn't matter. I said. What you

777
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:54.159
<v Speaker 3>need to know is how this affects you physically, what

778
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:57.039
<v Speaker 3>this can do to your body, and then you can

779
00:48:57.079 --> 00:49:01.159
<v Speaker 3>make an educated and informed decision. If this is something

780
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 3>you want to continue doing, that's your choice. If it's

781
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.119
<v Speaker 3>something you want to If you're already doing it and

782
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.920
<v Speaker 3>you want to quit, here's some resources on how to quit. Yeah,

783
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:13.599
<v Speaker 3>and you know, and I tell the kids, I'm like,

784
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:18.239
<v Speaker 3>I said, this is only a few I got eight

785
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:20.639
<v Speaker 3>here and I'll tell them. I'm like, here, I got

786
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:22.199
<v Speaker 3>to you know, I'll pull up my phone and I've

787
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:24.000
<v Speaker 3>got a list of them. I said, you can take

788
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:26.119
<v Speaker 3>a screenshot, you know, come up, take a picture of

789
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:28.199
<v Speaker 3>my phone. You've got all the information, same thing I'm

790
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:30.639
<v Speaker 3>giving you, and you can do what you want. I'm

791
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:32.039
<v Speaker 3>not going to ask you for your vape. I'm not

792
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:34.079
<v Speaker 3>going to ask you for your name. I'm not going

793
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:35.840
<v Speaker 3>to do anything. I'm not even going to ask for

794
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:37.559
<v Speaker 3>if this is for you or if it's for your

795
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:39.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, and all of them will, you know, half

796
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:41.519
<v Speaker 3>of them will say, well, it's for my mom or

797
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:44.039
<v Speaker 3>it's for my brother or whatever, and I'm like whatever,

798
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:47.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't care. But you know, I did the one

799
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:51.159
<v Speaker 3>course at the one school for it was five hundred

800
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:54.840
<v Speaker 3>and fifty kids last year at the one school, and

801
00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:01.239
<v Speaker 3>earlier this year, I went back in there. We're scheduling

802
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:03.360
<v Speaker 3>up the next for me to do that same course

803
00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:09.000
<v Speaker 3>again this upcoming year. And there were ten kids that

804
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:12.119
<v Speaker 3>walked up and said thank you, and I looked at

805
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:16.800
<v Speaker 3>him like, huh. In the once a round goes thanks

806
00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:23.079
<v Speaker 3>for what he goes. Your class meant a lot last year,

807
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:23.960
<v Speaker 3>and that's all I said.

808
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Well.

809
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Then they turned to me and they said, yeah, we haven't.

810
00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:30.039
<v Speaker 3>We haven't seen him in the bathroom as much this year.

811
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:35.559
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like okay. And you know there was nine

812
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:37.400
<v Speaker 3>other kids that said the same thing. So I'm like,

813
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:43.920
<v Speaker 3>so by providing education, ten of them quit success.

814
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:47.639
<v Speaker 2>How about that? Huh?

815
00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:49.280
<v Speaker 3>You know? And the principal turned to me and goes,

816
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:52.840
<v Speaker 3>we need you to do that again because you know,

817
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.760
<v Speaker 3>we've got the younger kids that are not seeing this yet.

818
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:57.119
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, that's fine.

819
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:01.599
<v Speaker 2>So important work it really is is I mean, you're

820
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:05.280
<v Speaker 2>giving kids something to stand on a little bit more confidence,

821
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:09.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, if you know that you're you can handle

822
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:12.360
<v Speaker 2>yourself and can get away, which is what self defense

823
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.480
<v Speaker 2>is all about. It's not about fighting with somebody, it's

824
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:19.679
<v Speaker 2>about escaping, you know. So the interesting thing and all

825
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.559
<v Speaker 2>of that is is that you've done that kind of

826
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:24.880
<v Speaker 2>work with people of all ages, and to do it

827
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:28.159
<v Speaker 2>with kids is so important. But what would today is

828
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.320
<v Speaker 2>the most important thing in life to you right now?

829
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:38.639
<v Speaker 3>Well? That came from actually my study in self defense,

830
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:44.440
<v Speaker 3>we do a deep dive into fear and understanding your fears. Yep,

831
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:51.000
<v Speaker 3>And you know I have one fear and people look

832
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.159
<v Speaker 3>at you and go, oh, you know. Actually, the guy

833
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:55.119
<v Speaker 3>who teaches the class turn to me the one day

834
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:59.360
<v Speaker 3>he goes, oh, you're probably like everybody else, you're you're

835
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:00.840
<v Speaker 3>afraid of death. And I looked at me. I said, oh,

836
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:03.599
<v Speaker 3>how him and I don't get a lot. I don't

837
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:06.679
<v Speaker 3>care about him at all. Yeah, when that happens, it happens,

838
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:09.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't care a shit. Yeah, I said my fear.

839
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:15.320
<v Speaker 3>I said, my only fear is losing les or losing

840
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:20.679
<v Speaker 3>Christian and gen. Yeah, those are my fears. And I said,

841
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.840
<v Speaker 3>and that's something I can't there's nothing I can do

842
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:28.840
<v Speaker 3>about it, but you know, And then I turned to

843
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:32.239
<v Speaker 3>him my tongue. I'm like, that's the only fears I have.

844
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:35.119
<v Speaker 3>And he'll look at me, and he finally the one

845
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:38.840
<v Speaker 3>day he turned around and we literally sat down and

846
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:42.800
<v Speaker 3>we talked for probably like forty five minutes, right, fear.

847
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:47.159
<v Speaker 3>And he looked at me and goes, you're the first

848
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:50.079
<v Speaker 3>guy I'm gonna I'm gonna believe who said you don't

849
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:54.719
<v Speaker 3>fear death? And I said no, I said, honestly, I

850
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:57.760
<v Speaker 3>said there's times. I said, you know, I said, I

851
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:01.800
<v Speaker 3>faced it so many times. And I said, and not

852
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:07.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, I said, I've you know, part of my

853
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:14.280
<v Speaker 3>job is for for twenty five of my twenty six years,

854
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:17.360
<v Speaker 3>i've been a medical examiner special investigator, so I investigate

855
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:22.840
<v Speaker 3>every death that takes place within my jurisdiction. So you know,

856
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:26.320
<v Speaker 3>I've faced it. I've seen it. I've seen the bad side,

857
00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:28.639
<v Speaker 3>I've seen the good side. And the one thing I

858
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:38.440
<v Speaker 3>learned is that the way and how I approach the

859
00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:43.239
<v Speaker 3>living means everything more than what I did than what

860
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:46.960
<v Speaker 3>took place when I was dealing with the debt, right,

861
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:52.679
<v Speaker 3>And that's where I find my my side of turning

862
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:56.159
<v Speaker 3>to like, you know, this little this younger kid who's

863
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:59.079
<v Speaker 3>asking me questions in law enforcement, and I'll turn to him.

864
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:01.039
<v Speaker 3>I not the first out look at him and says,

865
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:05.760
<v Speaker 3>the one thing you've got to learn is I said,

866
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:08.760
<v Speaker 3>And he took I turned him. I said, don't ever,

867
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:14.079
<v Speaker 3>I said, especially in this situation. I said, it's easy

868
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:18.239
<v Speaker 3>for somebody to say I'm sorry. And I said, and

869
00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:20.199
<v Speaker 3>that's probably I said to me, that's the worst thing

870
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:23.159
<v Speaker 3>you can say. Yeah, And he looks and goes, what

871
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:26.920
<v Speaker 3>do you mean? I said, I said, you can look

872
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:32.360
<v Speaker 3>at him and go I'm trying to understand how you feel.

873
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:38.960
<v Speaker 3>And you know, if you have some knowledge, you can say,

874
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:42.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't know exactly how you feel, but

875
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:44.719
<v Speaker 3>I you know, I have lost somebody in my past,

876
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:48.280
<v Speaker 3>and I understand how that can affect you. I said,

877
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:52.519
<v Speaker 3>but use your empathy. I said, empathy will get you

878
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:57.039
<v Speaker 3>so much further than sympathy. And the one kid looked

879
00:54:57.039 --> 00:55:01.559
<v Speaker 3>at me and goes, oh, good God. And I told him,

880
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:04.199
<v Speaker 3>I said, I said, that's the hardest thing you will

881
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:08.079
<v Speaker 3>ever have to do, right, I said, because you know,

882
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:13.360
<v Speaker 3>in law enforcement they tell you you're not supposed to feel anything.

883
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:17.000
<v Speaker 3>You're supposed to be a rock. And I said, you

884
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:19.320
<v Speaker 3>can't be. No, then you're just a dick.

885
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you're that guy.

886
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:27.920
<v Speaker 3>And he looks at me and goes And I turned

887
00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:32.320
<v Speaker 3>to him and I said, and I know you you're not a dick. Yeah,

888
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:35.519
<v Speaker 3>And he looked at me and goes, okay, you know,

889
00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:37.199
<v Speaker 3>and he just kind of stepped back and he's like,

890
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:40.599
<v Speaker 3>that's probably the best advice I've been given. And I

891
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:44.119
<v Speaker 3>turned him. I'm like, said, that's the one advice I

892
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:46.360
<v Speaker 3>can give everybody is that's the one thing you gotta do,

893
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:50.239
<v Speaker 3>is you need to be a human being. You can't

894
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:55.159
<v Speaker 3>be a robot. Yeah, you know, And I said, and

895
00:55:55.519 --> 00:56:01.920
<v Speaker 3>human beings use empathy, not sympathy. And he turned and

896
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:05.719
<v Speaker 3>he finally looked at me and goes, I get you know,

897
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:08.440
<v Speaker 3>I really understand where you're coming from. I said, I

898
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:13.119
<v Speaker 3>know you do. And I said, you know, just think

899
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:16.760
<v Speaker 3>of what you've gone through, and you've had losses, and

900
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:19.440
<v Speaker 3>you've had things that happened. It might not be the

901
00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:26.159
<v Speaker 3>exact same, but if you can use compassion and empathy,

902
00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:30.119
<v Speaker 3>you'll get so much further. And then, like I told him,

903
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:31.559
<v Speaker 3>I said, it's kind of like I said, when you're

904
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:34.480
<v Speaker 3>dealing with a suspect. I said, you know, there are

905
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:37.960
<v Speaker 3>so many times where I have wanted to literally reach

906
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:41.639
<v Speaker 3>across the table and grab this guy and beat the

907
00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:45.800
<v Speaker 3>hell out of him, but I also know I can't.

908
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:49.519
<v Speaker 3>But I also know if I can get him to

909
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:55.880
<v Speaker 3>think I'm his friend, I might get a confession, which

910
00:56:55.960 --> 00:57:03.400
<v Speaker 3>might save victim. And he kind of looked at me

911
00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:09.480
<v Speaker 3>and goes, and I said, some of the best interviews

912
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:13.000
<v Speaker 3>you'll ever do is when you sit there and you

913
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:16.199
<v Speaker 3>talk to a guy who you may I said, I said,

914
00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:17.760
<v Speaker 3>and you might have to do this, I said, I've

915
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:19.480
<v Speaker 3>done it to myself where I've gone, and I know,

916
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:24.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm like walking and going, Okay, he's a human being.

917
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:27.199
<v Speaker 3>He deserves to be treated like one. He's a human being.

918
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:29.559
<v Speaker 3>He deserves to be treated like one. And then after

919
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:31.360
<v Speaker 3>he walks out and we're done, and I've got all

920
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:33.679
<v Speaker 3>the confession and I got all the information I needed,

921
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.840
<v Speaker 3>and he's walking back and he's leaving, and he's going

922
00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:40.000
<v Speaker 3>probably in ninety percent of the time, he's going to

923
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:44.039
<v Speaker 3>a cell and I'm like, okay, did my part. And

924
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:47.079
<v Speaker 3>as soon as I'm out of their sight, I look

925
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:50.639
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like punching a wall like a point. Ye

926
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:56.679
<v Speaker 3>oh that he's a shit, you know. And then I

927
00:57:57.199 --> 00:57:58.960
<v Speaker 3>told him, I said, that's the hard thing. I said,

928
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:01.719
<v Speaker 3>but that's what you've got to do to get your

929
00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:04.159
<v Speaker 3>your points true. Yeah.

930
00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:08.320
<v Speaker 2>So so, Matt, what would you like to leave in

931
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:09.559
<v Speaker 2>the world after you're done?

932
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, I know I'm going to leave a garden on

933
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:25.480
<v Speaker 3>which you know, but I hope the one thing because

934
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:28.480
<v Speaker 3>I challenge my when I do do a class, i'm

935
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:32.159
<v Speaker 3>bullying or when I did my class. I did a

936
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:37.400
<v Speaker 3>class earlier this week where we talked about safety and

937
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:39.920
<v Speaker 3>we talk about you know, one of the things I

938
00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:43.039
<v Speaker 3>talked to the kids about is you have rights, and

939
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:45.199
<v Speaker 3>some of those rights and we'll talk about that. They

940
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:47.760
<v Speaker 3>have the right to be safe, they have the right

941
00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:51.440
<v Speaker 3>to be themselves. But with that right, you also have

942
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:54.280
<v Speaker 3>the responsibility to allow everybody else to be themselves as well.

943
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:58.880
<v Speaker 3>And we talk about that, and then I tell them,

944
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:02.119
<v Speaker 3>I said, I carry my challenge right here on my arm.

945
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:06.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, I have a tattoo that says it's got

946
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:11.400
<v Speaker 3>a blue rose and then it's got a monarch butterfly

947
00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:15.360
<v Speaker 3>with the name Chevelle over it, and then a blue

948
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:20.320
<v Speaker 3>tiger yellow tiger swallowtail with the name Riviera underneath it,

949
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:25.119
<v Speaker 3>which is my two granddaughters, and then it says love, laugh,

950
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:28.480
<v Speaker 3>live like Lexi. And I tell the kids, I said,

951
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:31.559
<v Speaker 3>this is my challenge to me, and I make the

952
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:34.159
<v Speaker 3>same challenge to you, and now look at me, and

953
00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:37.800
<v Speaker 3>I go, this is the challenge. I said. Lexi was

954
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:43.360
<v Speaker 3>the child that no matter what age level, grade, whatever,

955
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:49.760
<v Speaker 3>she would go find somebody who is by themselves and

956
00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:56.639
<v Speaker 3>go talk with yep. And many times almost every one

957
00:59:56.679 --> 00:59:58.360
<v Speaker 3>of those people will say she was one of my

958
00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:05.199
<v Speaker 3>best friends. And her thing was she'd been bullied and

959
01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:08.519
<v Speaker 3>she knew what it was like, but she also knew

960
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:12.039
<v Speaker 3>she didn't like it, and she didn't want to put

961
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:16.159
<v Speaker 3>anybody else through it, so she would and encourage them

962
01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:22.719
<v Speaker 3>to be themselves. And so you know, I still say this.

963
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:27.199
<v Speaker 3>You know, when I told Jen, I said, you know,

964
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:29.800
<v Speaker 3>well we lost lax, I said, I gained I gained

965
01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:33.599
<v Speaker 3>two more sons. I said, I lost my daughter and

966
01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:37.480
<v Speaker 3>my granddaughters, but I gained two sons. Jason, who was

967
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:42.639
<v Speaker 3>Lexi's best friend, and you know, he he came out

968
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:47.800
<v Speaker 3>because Lexi encouraged him to be himself. And you know,

969
01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:49.840
<v Speaker 3>he actually turned to Jen and I a little while

970
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:54.719
<v Speaker 3>ago and said, you know, if I get married, can

971
01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:58.800
<v Speaker 3>you guys walk me down the aisle? And I'm like, okay.

972
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:04.199
<v Speaker 3>You know, he and I talked probably well, well, I

973
01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:07.280
<v Speaker 3>message him through Snapchat a couple times a week and

974
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:09.320
<v Speaker 3>we talked back and forth. And then there's a couple

975
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:12.239
<v Speaker 3>of times we'll talk and we might talk or text

976
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:15.719
<v Speaker 3>message for half hour, forty five minutes or talk. And

977
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:23.760
<v Speaker 3>it's funny because he'll turn and go, you know, you know,

978
01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:26.920
<v Speaker 3>and he'll say the same thing because he recently, just

979
01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:30.039
<v Speaker 3>after Let's passed, he lost his dad and he said,

980
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:33.639
<v Speaker 3>he goes, it's nice knowing I have a dad still,

981
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:38.480
<v Speaker 3>you know. So and then Derek, who was lexi fiance,

982
01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:41.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, he's still you know, he's still a part

983
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:45.320
<v Speaker 3>of the family and always will be. And so you know,

984
01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:48.599
<v Speaker 3>turned him like, so I went from having a son

985
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:54.719
<v Speaker 3>and a daughter to having three sons. Yeah, and you

986
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:57.400
<v Speaker 3>know that's been a it's been a tough change, but

987
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:01.960
<v Speaker 3>it's still you know. And like I told them, I said,

988
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:05.320
<v Speaker 3>I challenge I'll challenge the kids, and I'll have the

989
01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:08.599
<v Speaker 3>kids look at me and go, oh my god. And

990
01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:10.239
<v Speaker 3>I told him, I said, Now, the funny thing is

991
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:12.880
<v Speaker 3>because they looked and the one girl goes, well, your

992
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:16.800
<v Speaker 3>tattoos in the wrong order, and I said, oh no,

993
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:21.039
<v Speaker 3>actually it's not. I said, you know, the sign says live, laugh, love,

994
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:25.440
<v Speaker 3>and they said, well, yeah, but your says love, laugh, live,

995
01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:28.840
<v Speaker 3>And I said, well, that's because Lexi wanted to buy

996
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:32.800
<v Speaker 3>one of those signs, but she didn't want the ones

997
01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:35.960
<v Speaker 3>that were attached. She wanted them so the words were

998
01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:40.079
<v Speaker 3>separated because she wanted to put them love, laugh, live.

999
01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:43.320
<v Speaker 3>And I finally looked at her and I said, okay,

1000
01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:49.360
<v Speaker 3>explain yourself. Why why you know, what's with the change

1001
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:52.280
<v Speaker 3>in the order. And she looked and she goes, well,

1002
01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:55.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, they say, if you live, you'll love and

1003
01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:58.039
<v Speaker 3>you'll laugh. And I said, yep. She goes, that's not

1004
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:02.920
<v Speaker 3>the way it goes. She goes, you love and you laugh.

1005
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:07.440
<v Speaker 3>She goes, you got love first, then you're always going

1006
01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:09.039
<v Speaker 3>to laugh. And she goes, and that's when you live.

1007
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, yean and argue with that logic.

1008
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:18.639
<v Speaker 3>Nope, So you know, and that's where I always say.

1009
01:03:18.679 --> 01:03:21.880
<v Speaker 3>I said, so that's why it's love, laugh, live like Lexi,

1010
01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:24.920
<v Speaker 3>And I said, that's my challenge to live to her standards,

1011
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:28.800
<v Speaker 3>and I challenge everybody else to the state standard. And

1012
01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:32.360
<v Speaker 3>when you tell that to a group of fifth graders

1013
01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:36.840
<v Speaker 3>or fourth graders and you know, and someone will look

1014
01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:40.800
<v Speaker 3>at you going and they're almost bawling. But then you've

1015
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:42.800
<v Speaker 3>got I've got other kids that will sit there and go.

1016
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:46.320
<v Speaker 3>And the one kid looked at me and goes, oh

1017
01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:50.599
<v Speaker 3>my god, you guys have the garden over in Sandusky,

1018
01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:54.320
<v Speaker 3>And I said, yeah. He goes go there every weekend,

1019
01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:58.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, and to hear that story and hear that

1020
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:04.000
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, okay, you know, So that's that's my goal,

1021
01:04:04.119 --> 01:04:05.760
<v Speaker 3>is to pass that on.

1022
01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:10.159
<v Speaker 2>I think that that is not only admirable, but it's

1023
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:12.559
<v Speaker 2>also really great that you're able to see it in

1024
01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:17.719
<v Speaker 2>action while you're here. That's a big deal. So we're

1025
01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:22.880
<v Speaker 2>at the last question, believe it or not? And I know,

1026
01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:25.360
<v Speaker 2>you know about bakers, when you buy a dozen, they

1027
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:28.159
<v Speaker 2>give you a thirteenth one. So I figured i'd give

1028
01:04:28.199 --> 01:04:31.360
<v Speaker 2>people a thirteenth question as well, you know, thirteenth for

1029
01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:34.719
<v Speaker 2>the price. Well, what is the thing that most people

1030
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:36.239
<v Speaker 2>misunderstand about you, Matt?

1031
01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:42.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, I guess, like I said, it's a lot of

1032
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:45.920
<v Speaker 3>it because of what I do for a living, right people,

1033
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:51.760
<v Speaker 3>and then my size. I'm a big guy. They mistake that.

1034
01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:56.840
<v Speaker 3>They for some reason, everybody thinks I want to fight

1035
01:04:56.840 --> 01:05:01.800
<v Speaker 3>with everybody, And ninety percent of my time I don't

1036
01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:04.800
<v Speaker 3>want to fight with anybody, right, I want to talk.

1037
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:09.079
<v Speaker 3>I want to you know. That's how I communicate, you know,

1038
01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:11.920
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's the one thing I want people

1039
01:05:11.960 --> 01:05:15.840
<v Speaker 3>to understand is, yeah, you can be a big guy,

1040
01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:19.119
<v Speaker 3>and yeah, I'm going to tell you if we get

1041
01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:22.199
<v Speaker 3>into a fight, it's probably not gonna go well, you know,

1042
01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:26.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm you know, and I will tell you I don't

1043
01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:31.039
<v Speaker 3>fight fair. I mean, there's no there's no such thing

1044
01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:32.800
<v Speaker 3>as a fair fight unless you're standing in the middle

1045
01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:35.960
<v Speaker 3>of a boxing ring or one of those MMA rings,

1046
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:40.559
<v Speaker 3>even though sometimes are right, you know, so you know,

1047
01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:44.480
<v Speaker 3>but there's rules. I'm sorry, when I get into a fight,

1048
01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:48.159
<v Speaker 3>there's there's not a rule. It's just you know. And

1049
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:51.360
<v Speaker 3>the answer to me is, I'm going home at night.

1050
01:05:51.440 --> 01:05:53.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't, you know. And I told the one guy,

1051
01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:55.599
<v Speaker 3>and I remember this one guy looking at me. I

1052
01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:58.119
<v Speaker 3>tr to him. I said, he said, you have two choices,

1053
01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:01.599
<v Speaker 3>and he looked. He goes, what's that. I said, we

1054
01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:07.239
<v Speaker 3>can go you can walk back in, and you can

1055
01:06:07.880 --> 01:06:11.199
<v Speaker 3>walk in and there won't be a problem. He goes, okay,

1056
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:13.519
<v Speaker 3>but what's my other choice? I said, if we go

1057
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:16.639
<v Speaker 3>through this, you're probably going to get dragged out of

1058
01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:20.079
<v Speaker 3>here in a stretcher. And the guy looked and I said,

1059
01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:22.039
<v Speaker 3>because I'm I looked at the guy. I'm like, you're

1060
01:06:22.280 --> 01:06:24.239
<v Speaker 3>you're six foot eight, you're almost four hundred pounds. I'll

1061
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:28.039
<v Speaker 3>shoot your ass. And he was like what And I

1062
01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:31.599
<v Speaker 3>turned him. I'm like and I told him that. I said,

1063
01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:36.079
<v Speaker 3>I said, I'm not I said, you're huge, You're built

1064
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:43.079
<v Speaker 3>like a mac truck and no offense, but I said,

1065
01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:46.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, if it comes down to it, I'll shoot

1066
01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:50.199
<v Speaker 3>you if I have to. And the guy looked and

1067
01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:55.159
<v Speaker 3>it was so funny because upholls this other officer because

1068
01:06:55.159 --> 01:06:58.760
<v Speaker 3>I was literally staring down this guy by myself and

1069
01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:02.199
<v Speaker 3>up this other guy and he runs over and he

1070
01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:04.159
<v Speaker 3>goes over and he hugs this other off She's like,

1071
01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:07.800
<v Speaker 3>he scared me. And he looks. He looks and goes,

1072
01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:14.079
<v Speaker 3>what the hell that come? The good guy? And he

1073
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:17.239
<v Speaker 3>walked him back in and we're all like, okay, you know,

1074
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:21.440
<v Speaker 3>and he looks and goes, when did I How am

1075
01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:23.599
<v Speaker 3>I the nice guy for one? I'm like, I don't know,

1076
01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:26.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm the bad guy for once? Yeah? You know. He

1077
01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:28.639
<v Speaker 3>always said you're always the nice guy. How they know?

1078
01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:31.280
<v Speaker 3>Am I the nice guy? I looked at him, I said,

1079
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:33.800
<v Speaker 3>and I told him what I said, and he goes, okay,

1080
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:35.360
<v Speaker 3>I got, I got. I guess I know how you're

1081
01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:38.639
<v Speaker 3>why you're the bad guy this time? Yeah? You know?

1082
01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:41.280
<v Speaker 3>And I guess that's the one thing most people don't

1083
01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:48.880
<v Speaker 3>understand is honesty. And you know, if you're if you're

1084
01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:54.400
<v Speaker 3>honest with me, I have given some huge breaks to people. Yeah,

1085
01:07:55.119 --> 01:07:58.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, you know, and I guess one of those

1086
01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:01.159
<v Speaker 3>that I still to this day, I will I always

1087
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:06.079
<v Speaker 3>laugh at it. But I'll give you one story about

1088
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:08.280
<v Speaker 3>honesty that I always find to be one of the

1089
01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:15.119
<v Speaker 3>best ones. So myself and another officer, and he was

1090
01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:17.279
<v Speaker 3>the guy that no matter if you get pulled over

1091
01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:20.840
<v Speaker 3>by him, you're getting a ticket. Okay, that's pretty much it.

1092
01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:23.920
<v Speaker 3>And he's sitting next to me, and then if the

1093
01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:26.880
<v Speaker 3>two of us are in a car together, somebody's probably

1094
01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:31.159
<v Speaker 3>going to jail. It just just almost always ended up

1095
01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:33.920
<v Speaker 3>that way. We'd get somebody with warrants or something. You know,

1096
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:37.640
<v Speaker 3>we'd get, you know, somebody do something stupid, and you know,

1097
01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:40.439
<v Speaker 3>somebody's going to jail then. And so we're in a

1098
01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:43.560
<v Speaker 3>car together and he looks and goes and he's in

1099
01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:45.359
<v Speaker 3>the mood. You know, he's got the ticket book in

1100
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:48.079
<v Speaker 3>hand and he's all he's like, it's gonna be a

1101
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:50.920
<v Speaker 3>fun night. I'm looking at him like, dude, come on.

1102
01:08:52.119 --> 01:08:54.760
<v Speaker 3>And we're driving down this side street and all of

1103
01:08:54.800 --> 01:09:01.000
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, this car blows this stop side literally turns

1104
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:04.199
<v Speaker 3>the car sideways, and then this car's fishtailing coming at

1105
01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:08.359
<v Speaker 3>us in R lane and then fishtails back the other way.

1106
01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:10.880
<v Speaker 3>And then finally gets over on the side of the

1107
01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:14.239
<v Speaker 3>road and we're I mean, like, there's a city park

1108
01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:17.000
<v Speaker 3>like right here. It's twenty five mile hours on and

1109
01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:20.920
<v Speaker 3>this guy's probably doing forty and we're like, oh my god,

1110
01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:25.159
<v Speaker 3>and he just blew the stops. So I whip on

1111
01:09:25.199 --> 01:09:27.399
<v Speaker 3>the lights and the guy just flips around and he stops.

1112
01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:29.279
<v Speaker 3>And I go walking up to the car and I

1113
01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:33.359
<v Speaker 3>look at this kid and he's maybe sixteen years old

1114
01:09:34.079 --> 01:09:37.239
<v Speaker 3>or just turn sixteen, actually just turned sixteen like three

1115
01:09:37.319 --> 01:09:41.720
<v Speaker 3>days and he's sitting there and he's shaking and he's crying.

1116
01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:44.199
<v Speaker 3>And I looked at him, like, so do you know

1117
01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:46.600
<v Speaker 3>why we stopped you? And it was like the scene

1118
01:09:46.640 --> 01:09:50.479
<v Speaker 3>from Liar Liar. This kid takes this huge breath and

1119
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:54.920
<v Speaker 3>he goes, I was speeding. I turned the car sideways.

1120
01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:57.039
<v Speaker 3>I nearly hit you head on. I was doing this.

1121
01:09:57.079 --> 01:09:59.119
<v Speaker 3>I did this. I also blew this stops and I

1122
01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:04.560
<v Speaker 3>didn't have my seatbelt. And I looked at him like okay,

1123
01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:07.520
<v Speaker 3>and I looked over the car at the other off

1124
01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:09.720
<v Speaker 3>she like what hell is this?

1125
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:10.720
<v Speaker 2>You know?

1126
01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:13.720
<v Speaker 3>And he's like he's standing in there looking at me

1127
01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:19.399
<v Speaker 3>like what just happened? And I turned the case, I said, so,

1128
01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:22.199
<v Speaker 3>can you tell me what's going on why. He's like,

1129
01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:25.439
<v Speaker 3>I literally just got my license three days ago. And

1130
01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:30.159
<v Speaker 3>we're like, okay, so driving like an idiot for what reason?

1131
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:33.560
<v Speaker 3>He's like, literally, my girlfriend just broke up with me.

1132
01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:36.840
<v Speaker 3>She lives down here, and I came from her house

1133
01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:40.399
<v Speaker 3>and I was just upset and I didn't know what

1134
01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:42.600
<v Speaker 3>to do and blah blah blah. So we're sitting there

1135
01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:45.520
<v Speaker 3>and let him, let him talk and cry for a minute.

1136
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:49.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, dude, do me a favor. Just breathe,

1137
01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:53.359
<v Speaker 3>Just chill and breathe for a little bit. And he's

1138
01:10:53.399 --> 01:10:56.000
<v Speaker 3>he's doing that, and I said, okay, so are you

1139
01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:59.199
<v Speaker 3>okay now a little bit, you know? And I'm like, okay,

1140
01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:01.680
<v Speaker 3>do me a favor. So I showed him how to

1141
01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:05.039
<v Speaker 3>box breathe. And I'm teaching him how to breathe, and

1142
01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:10.399
<v Speaker 3>the sergeant's standing there looking at me, like you're teaching

1143
01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:14.279
<v Speaker 3>him how to breathe, like he's got a comment. So

1144
01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:16.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I want you to be able to drive home,

1145
01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:19.439
<v Speaker 3>but I want you to drive home normally, not the

1146
01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:22.479
<v Speaker 3>way you were just driving. And he's like okay, okay.

1147
01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:24.840
<v Speaker 3>So he's breathing, and I get him calm. I said, Okay,

1148
01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:26.840
<v Speaker 3>you do this for a little bit. We'll be back

1149
01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:29.520
<v Speaker 3>to talk to you in a couple of minutes. And

1150
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:31.600
<v Speaker 3>as I get back in the car, I go back

1151
01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:35.119
<v Speaker 3>and I see the sergeant sitting there with the ticket

1152
01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:38.520
<v Speaker 3>book in his hand, and he opens the little screen

1153
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:41.479
<v Speaker 3>that goes to the back seat and he takes the

1154
01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:44.600
<v Speaker 3>ticket book and he throws it through the back window.

1155
01:11:45.239 --> 01:11:47.159
<v Speaker 3>And then he reaches down and grabs my ticket book

1156
01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:49.319
<v Speaker 3>and throws it through the back window. And then he

1157
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:51.159
<v Speaker 3>closes the screen and goes, Now, if you can get

1158
01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:52.960
<v Speaker 3>through the screen to get into the back seat to

1159
01:11:52.960 --> 01:11:54.720
<v Speaker 3>get it, you can you can write him a ticket.

1160
01:11:55.720 --> 01:11:57.840
<v Speaker 3>And I looked him like, well, I hadn't planned on

1161
01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:00.560
<v Speaker 3>writing him a ticket now, I said, I've never had

1162
01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:03.479
<v Speaker 3>anybody so honest with me in my entire life. And

1163
01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:06.199
<v Speaker 3>he goes, well, me, neither. He goes. He goes and

1164
01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:09.479
<v Speaker 3>you know, we've all done stupid ship when we broke

1165
01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:11.680
<v Speaker 3>up with a girlfriend, and you know, at his age,

1166
01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:14.439
<v Speaker 3>and blah blah blah blah. I understand. I'm like, yeah,

1167
01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:16.119
<v Speaker 3>we've all done stupid things.

1168
01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

1169
01:12:17.439 --> 01:12:22.000
<v Speaker 3>So we go on and I go up and I

1170
01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:23.560
<v Speaker 3>give the kid a verbal warning and I send him

1171
01:12:23.600 --> 01:12:29.600
<v Speaker 3>on his way. So about three years or about five

1172
01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:33.760
<v Speaker 3>years later, now the other officer had left our department.

1173
01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:37.479
<v Speaker 3>He's working for another department. And I'm heading to a

1174
01:12:37.560 --> 01:12:42.000
<v Speaker 3>training and while I'm getting ready to sign up, I'm

1175
01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:44.359
<v Speaker 3>looking and I see that he's heading to the same training.

1176
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:47.239
<v Speaker 3>So I taught. I went Colin and I'm like, hey,

1177
01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:49.560
<v Speaker 3>you want to meet up and drive together. He's like, sure,

1178
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:52.119
<v Speaker 3>I got the department car. Come on over, meet up

1179
01:12:52.119 --> 01:12:53.880
<v Speaker 3>with me, and we'll go down on our car. Okay.

1180
01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:57.840
<v Speaker 3>So we go down together and we're in Oakland County

1181
01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:01.000
<v Speaker 3>and we're sitting there. We're taking this class and I

1182
01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.079
<v Speaker 3>think it was on auto theftter something. It was just

1183
01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:06.319
<v Speaker 3>kind of a BS class type thing, and we're kind

1184
01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:10.680
<v Speaker 3>of sitting there and there's this kid. They're staring at us.

1185
01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:14.960
<v Speaker 3>He's just staring at the two of us. He's like,

1186
01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:19.119
<v Speaker 3>did we beat him up? Or what the hell? You know?

1187
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Do you know that kid? I'm like, he said, he

1188
01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:28.359
<v Speaker 3>looks familiar, but I said, I can't put a name

1189
01:13:28.399 --> 01:13:31.479
<v Speaker 3>with it. So we're sitting there and then he comes

1190
01:13:31.520 --> 01:13:33.119
<v Speaker 3>up to us and goes, hey, what are you guys?

1191
01:13:33.199 --> 01:13:38.560
<v Speaker 3>Doing for lunch. I don't know. Come on, I'll drive

1192
01:13:38.680 --> 01:13:42.680
<v Speaker 3>you guys could come with me, okay, whatever. So you

1193
01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:44.960
<v Speaker 3>know he's from Oakland County. He's Oakland County deputy. So

1194
01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:48.960
<v Speaker 3>we went with them, went to eat, and we're sitting there.

1195
01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:52.199
<v Speaker 3>I think we I think we went to like Famous

1196
01:13:52.239 --> 01:13:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Daves or something like that. So you know, we're sitting

1197
01:13:54.760 --> 01:13:56.800
<v Speaker 3>there and all of a sudden, we're waiting for our

1198
01:13:56.920 --> 01:14:03.520
<v Speaker 3>checks and we're like I finally I waved down the

1199
01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:06.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, hey, we got to get our checks so

1200
01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:09.359
<v Speaker 3>we can go. And she goes, they're already paid for. Well,

1201
01:14:09.399 --> 01:14:13.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean they're paid for, and she goes, he paid

1202
01:14:13.079 --> 01:14:17.680
<v Speaker 3>for the hell's that for? He goes, he goes, well,

1203
01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:23.880
<v Speaker 3>you guys don't remember I said no. He goes and

1204
01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:27.239
<v Speaker 3>he gives us his name, and I'm sitting there going, okay,

1205
01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:29.159
<v Speaker 3>I know I know that last name. I know I

1206
01:14:29.199 --> 01:14:34.920
<v Speaker 3>know you, and he goes, he goes, how's this. I

1207
01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:36.800
<v Speaker 3>blew a stout side and I was doing forty miles

1208
01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:38.399
<v Speaker 3>an hour to twenty five. I turned on the car

1209
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:41.239
<v Speaker 3>sideways and I nearly hit you head on. Looked up like,

1210
01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:46.359
<v Speaker 3>holy shit, he's now you know, he's now a deputy

1211
01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:49.800
<v Speaker 3>for them, and he turned he goes, I remember what

1212
01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:53.239
<v Speaker 3>you guys did for me, and now I try and

1213
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:57.880
<v Speaker 3>make sure I use the same treatment for other people.

1214
01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:00.600
<v Speaker 3>And he goes, he goes, and nobody believe my story

1215
01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:03.840
<v Speaker 3>that you know, Dwayne Gilly gave me didn't give me

1216
01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:04.600
<v Speaker 3>a ticket.

1217
01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Very very very very clear. I like it.

1218
01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that was That's one of those ones where

1219
01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:16.239
<v Speaker 3>you just look back and go that's something I can

1220
01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:16.720
<v Speaker 3>pass on.

1221
01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:20.840
<v Speaker 2>So well, clearly he left an impression on him, and

1222
01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:22.800
<v Speaker 2>he went on to be a deputy and I'm sure

1223
01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:24.880
<v Speaker 2>he's probably distinguished himself since then.

1224
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:32.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah he has. Actually we just actually Gilly contacted me.

1225
01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:34.439
<v Speaker 3>He's like, he goes. You won't believe it. I said,

1226
01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:38.880
<v Speaker 3>what he goes? He goes, I just seen the kid, said,

1227
01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh what's he doing? He goes, Well, he was just

1228
01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:47.920
<v Speaker 3>at my up up here at at Lapure taking swat

1229
01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:52.800
<v Speaker 3>school training with me. I'm like, okay, he goes, he

1230
01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:54.960
<v Speaker 3>passed sniper school a few years ago.

1231
01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

1232
01:15:55.960 --> 01:15:59.880
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, I'm sweet. Yeah, and you know, and

1233
01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:02.880
<v Speaker 3>here he is, you know, he's he's taking and he

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<v Speaker 3>told Gilly, he goes, I remember that you were a

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<v Speaker 3>sniper and he goes, and I remember, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody was always worried about the sniper and all this

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<v Speaker 3>because you were a sniper and you were on the

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<v Speaker 3>swat team. And he goes, he goes, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>be like you. He goes, and then he goes, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>Jail calls a firearm instructor, so I went and became

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<v Speaker 3>a firearms instructor. And he goes, you know, and Keilly

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<v Speaker 3>turns around and goes seriously, and he goes, yeah, he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>he turned around. He goes, Honestly, he goes. There's times

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<v Speaker 3>where I look back and go, you know, just meeting

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<v Speaker 3>those two guys and talking with him and realizing your

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<v Speaker 3>humans and your nice people and this and that. He goes,

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<v Speaker 3>Ben the best thing I've ever done. And I look

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<v Speaker 3>back and like, wep. I finally I turned to Gilly

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<v Speaker 3>the last time, and I'm like, so apparently we did

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<v Speaker 3>one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, not bad for twenty six years, eh, right, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much. It's been an amazing, amazing conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've learned so much, so much, so many questions

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<v Speaker 2>that I've got, especially about the food.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I understand that do you have any questions of me? No, Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Jen kind of explained everything, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's I think it's awesome idea of what you're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to do. And you know, we both said the same thing,

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<v Speaker 3>We're honored that you've asked us to be a part

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<v Speaker 3>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we've we've met through the Grief Network, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>quite frankly, I'm more than happy to make friends with

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<v Speaker 2>anybody who's had a loss, but who can articulate, as

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<v Speaker 2>you said earlier, that empathetic side of of not knowing

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<v Speaker 2>what it's like for other people, but sure knowing what

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<v Speaker 2>it's like for you. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, and that's the thing I mean, I still

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<v Speaker 3>think that, you know, I know, like with my group

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm a part of with Helping Fathers Heal, that

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<v Speaker 3>program and that book that we did. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 3>had people contact me from the book, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>from when we were at the conference. I've had three

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<v Speaker 3>or four people contact me they're like, hey, do you remember,

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, yeah, I remember talking with you at

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<v Speaker 3>the conference, and I remember, you know, going over certain

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<v Speaker 3>parts of the book with you and that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I had one guy contact me and

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<v Speaker 3>he said, he goes, he goes, we can't do a

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<v Speaker 3>garden at you know, at the level that you guys did.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, nobody expects anybody to do anything. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you you do what you want to do to honor

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<v Speaker 3>your person. Yes, And he he churned and he said,

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<v Speaker 3>he goes, Well, he goes, I he goes, I did.

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<v Speaker 3>He fixed a small garden that was around a mother

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<v Speaker 3>Mary at the local church that he and he goes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not even a church I go to. He goes.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, not Catholic because it's for the Catholic church.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, but he goes, I drove past the one

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<v Speaker 3>day and he goes, you know, he goes, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my daughter's name was Mary.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And he goes, I seen this and then he goes

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<v Speaker 3>it was he was it was upsetting to look at.

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<v Speaker 3>So he went through and he cleared out the area

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<v Speaker 3>around it, helped planet and help recreate this little sitting

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<v Speaker 3>area around the mother Mary. And he tround. He goes,

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<v Speaker 3>he goes that, he goes, he goes, it sounds weird.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes. But the whole time I could hear my

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<v Speaker 3>daughter And I told him like, yeah, I said, And

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<v Speaker 3>I said, he goes, and I still find myself going

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<v Speaker 3>there once in a while. And I told him, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why I go to our garden literally, I said.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost every day I work, I try and take it

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of my time my day and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>walk out to the garden. I said, whether it's middle

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<v Speaker 3>of winter or summer or whatever, I try and walk

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<v Speaker 3>out to the garden. I said, because I hear my

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<v Speaker 3>girls there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, but I also hear them everywhere else now.

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<v Speaker 3>And he turned on he's like, you know, and he

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<v Speaker 3>told me he was you know, he's like, he goes.

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<v Speaker 3>I never thought i'd do something like what I did

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<v Speaker 3>for that, for that little that little area he goes.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, it's ten foot by ten foot. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's huge, yeah, you know. And I looked at me.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I said, so it's ten foot by ten foot,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a hundred feet so and he kind of looked

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<v Speaker 3>at me. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, Matt, you know what, as much as I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to just keep going on forever, and we got

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<v Speaker 2>to wrap the folks at home, and you know, you've

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<v Speaker 2>been very generous with all your sharing and insights and everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and ladies and gentlemen, Matt's a little bit different breed

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<v Speaker 2>a cat, and I think you've given us given us

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<v Speaker 2>some good things to think about. With that said, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to address one more thing to you folks at home.

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<v Speaker 2>It's my normal request to you when we're about to

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<v Speaker 2>sign off, and I'd like you to reach out to

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<v Speaker 2>someone that you know, like or love in your life

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<v Speaker 2>and let them know that your world works because they're around,

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<v Speaker 2>and that if they ever need you, you're always just

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<v Speaker 2>a phone call away. You can help them with a smile,

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<v Speaker 2>or you can go be with them if they need it,

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<v Speaker 2>but let them know that it means a lot that

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<v Speaker 2>you're here. So having said that, Matt, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>thank you again for being on. You did a great

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<v Speaker 2>job with us. Thank you, thank you, And ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 2>we are Simple Questions for one hundred People. I'm Bill Correll,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you very much for your participation and listening.

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