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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hell drug. Yeah, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, y'all? How's it going? Happy Thursday?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Talking the Bible and Florida, specifically the Book of Genesis

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<v Speaker 2>and the Garden of Eden in Florida, which I know

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about quite a bit on this channel. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Juan and I were talking and Huan's had

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<v Speaker 2>some questions about the Gopher Wood recently, and we've been tackling,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some esoteric Florida history, and so we thought

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<v Speaker 2>we would reapproach the question if the Garden of Eden

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<v Speaker 2>was in Florida, then where or what are the Tree

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<v Speaker 2>of Life and the Tree of knowledge of good and evil?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what we're gonna be talking about tonight. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got some great stuff planned. What's up, Huan, teitor?

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<v Speaker 1>Why'd I have to Why do I have to be

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<v Speaker 1>the black guy on the Miami Vice intro? Why can't

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<v Speaker 1>you be the black guy and me the white guy?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he black? To you? One?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he black? Is he? No?

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<v Speaker 2>S Negato Dominican?

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<v Speaker 1>Miami No, No, No, that sounds too close. Relax. So

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<v Speaker 1>what's the guy's name.

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<v Speaker 2>The Well, there's Don John's.

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<v Speaker 1>Rico, all right, Rico and here's the actor's name. The

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<v Speaker 1>actor's name for Ricos are Cardo Tubbs.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, No, that no, that's his character. Oh Rico short for.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is Phillips Michael Thomas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yep, there you go. So long time vegetarian by

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<v Speaker 2>the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really yeah? All right? So yes he is black.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, he's Caribbean. Okay, just like you so close enough?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, yeah, close enough. I guess I'll let it slide. Slide.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he pretends to be like the Haman. I think

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<v Speaker 2>so hyena ish, not so far off.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't watched the show. Did we ever watch an

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<v Speaker 1>episode of No, we were going to well, Puerto Ricans

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<v Speaker 1>are always late to everything, so are they? Oh yeah, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. It's like what time are you on? Puerto

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<v Speaker 1>Rican time or Gringo time? And Puerto Ricans are always late.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm used to it. It's not it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>big o ideal, but yes, I'm excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>We were kind of, you know, along the same line

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<v Speaker 1>of thought that we've been talking about these past few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks about Florida. Right, that's always been the topic, right, Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>Old World history, things of that nature, and it still

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<v Speaker 1>blows my mind that where the gopher wood is found

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<v Speaker 1>is around that right the fag border, the Florida and

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia border in that area, and that still blows my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like it specifically says in the Book of

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<v Speaker 1>Genesis like that the gopher would and it wouldn't make

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<v Speaker 1>any other sense for it to be in some other

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<v Speaker 1>place if the wood isn't there. It's very specific. So

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<v Speaker 1>that part still blows my mind. And we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>today and I have a presentation that I've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about for a long time that I'm gonna do and

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't gone around to doing it. That involves palm trees, alchemy,

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<v Speaker 1>the Book of Genesis, things of that nature, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it ties kind of in to what we talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting once you start looking at the palm

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<v Speaker 1>tree how much you start to see it over and

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again. So I want to talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about that today. Obviously, Genesis, Garden, Eden, Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. And I'm ready, bro, or are you

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<v Speaker 1>sniffing there? What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Just some poppers want to work. No, it's a rosemary oil.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it supposed to do? It's supposed to calm

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<v Speaker 1>you down. Active. Oh, he's activating, But you were sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on some other stuff earlier. Huh some other type of Rosemary.

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<v Speaker 2>The hell are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about before the show pre show activities. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>you're always late, bro, Oh you mean the electric lettuce.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm you know, yeah, I might indulge in that

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<v Speaker 2>time to time.

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<v Speaker 1>From the time of time. Yeah, check out the spy

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<v Speaker 1>that I made, Bro. I made this two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of trees. Okay, uh ay, this is a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>cool background here. See this one second.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, I made this presentation like two years ago. You

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<v Speaker 1>put me on there, of course, Bro, this is when

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<v Speaker 1>this is before you transition.

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<v Speaker 2>Due, before I transitioned. Yeah, what from van life to

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<v Speaker 2>house life?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, yeah, actually.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what really happened.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, right, here we go, All right, where do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to start before we get into all that?

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<v Speaker 1>Where weah? Why are we not on screen? Here? We are?

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? There we go?

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<v Speaker 1>So the what does the og callaway say about this? Because, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the Garden of Eden for people, the tree of knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>of good and evil, there's various stories around it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>various ideas. The Garden of Ena was a more of

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<v Speaker 1>a metaphysical thing. Some of the people can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it actually being a physical place that you know, can

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<v Speaker 1>actually be gone to. Uh So I've heard some people

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<v Speaker 1>talk about being a state of mind, right, the innocence

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<v Speaker 1>of that time, et cetera, et cetera. What is callaway

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<v Speaker 1>the og who talked about the Garden of n being

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida, What did he propose that the Garden of

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<v Speaker 1>Ena was and where all the you know, the tree

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<v Speaker 1>of life, all this other stuff with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so tree of life I might need to drag

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<v Speaker 2>my memory on. Yeah, I don't think he dives too

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<v Speaker 2>deep on it. But for the tree of knowledge of

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<v Speaker 2>good and evil, for the fruit forbidden fruit, the poison apple,

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<v Speaker 2>he definitely supports more of like a symbolic interpretation. He

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<v Speaker 2>believes that the fruit of knowledge of good and evil

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<v Speaker 2>is free will itself. So the first decision to go

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<v Speaker 2>against one of God's clear instructions was man's decision to

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<v Speaker 2>engage in free will, you know to Yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 2>says that, yes, it was woman who he kind of

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<v Speaker 2>takes a feminist approach to be honest. He says, woman

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<v Speaker 2>like Eve, mother, Eve was braver than Atam or willing to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, deviate from the plan. And he says something

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<v Speaker 2>along the lines of she should be applauded for that

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<v Speaker 2>great decision that the conditions of Eden were not proper

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<v Speaker 2>to man's man and woman's soul. So he kind of

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<v Speaker 2>has like a little bit of a gnostic approach or

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<v Speaker 2>like a dare I say, a Luciferian interpretation, which I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean Luciferian in like the Illuminati, oh, Satanism, everything's

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<v Speaker 2>evil sense, you know, Luciferianism is or just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>venerating lucifer or free will or liberty above other things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's what I qualify as lucifer Luciferianism is placing

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<v Speaker 2>liberty above truth, placing free will above you know, following

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<v Speaker 2>God's plan. But it shouldn't really surprise us too much

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<v Speaker 2>because LV. Edison Callaway was a Freemason and a shriner,

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<v Speaker 2>so he may have been influenced by some movement, by

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<v Speaker 2>some of their interpretations. So you know, when you peel

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<v Speaker 2>back some layers on some of these hermetic orders they

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<v Speaker 2>do they they think they have a refined understanding of

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<v Speaker 2>lucifer That well, it's okay if everyone thinks he's the

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<v Speaker 2>bad guy, but we really know he's the good guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't endorse all of that, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have to kind of eventually see where

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<v Speaker 2>they're coming from when you when you study enough of

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff, right, secret societies, and so I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if that's you know, what influenced his perspective on it,

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<v Speaker 2>but he basically said, Mother Eve made the right decision.

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<v Speaker 2>And and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think some people too, that writer are against religion will

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<v Speaker 1>take that side just because it goes against the mainstream, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So everybody loves God, so therefore they're gonna hate it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna do the opposite, and they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>more Luciferian and look towards that side, right the Satanic temple,

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<v Speaker 1>things of that nature, where they're like, oh, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't worship the devil. We just like to live right

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<v Speaker 1>and like have this sort of free will and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And one of the interesting things about the

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<v Speaker 1>story of In the Garden Union is that depending on

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<v Speaker 1>which interpretation you read it can in the gnostic sense

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<v Speaker 1>it was about the demi urge. They so Sophia flies

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<v Speaker 1>down as an eagle, and or she's as a serpent

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<v Speaker 1>one of the two, and she tells you to eat

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<v Speaker 1>from the tree of knowledge of good and evils so

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<v Speaker 1>that they can learn that they're in this matrix controlled

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<v Speaker 1>by the demi urge out of the Bayouth at the time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because in the Gnostic sense, the devil character sort of

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<v Speaker 1>created reality and put man in it and made him

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<v Speaker 1>from himself because he was jealous essentially, where he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be a creator. So again, and that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>perverts and inverts everything. But there's just different interpretations of

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<v Speaker 1>it of like, hey, what was the Garden of Eden scene,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really interesting because how you talked about these

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<v Speaker 1>two polar opposites. The alchemists saw it as like breaking

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<v Speaker 1>down right from the alchemical process, breaking and separating the

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<v Speaker 1>two halves. Because what I really one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>aspects of this whole thing is the alchemical interpretation of

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<v Speaker 1>the Book of Genesis because they saw it as the

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<v Speaker 1>blueprints to create the Philosopher's Stone. They saw it as

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<v Speaker 1>there because they look at God as the great architect

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<v Speaker 1>of the great alchemist, right, and the watchers. The watchers

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<v Speaker 1>are watching the great alchemists at work create and uncreate reality.

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<v Speaker 1>So and that's where you got, you got the Book

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<v Speaker 1>of Enoch. Zoe is the most of Panopolist, which was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the earliest alchemists. He was he loved the

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<v Speaker 1>Book of Enoch. And in the Book of Enoch, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the Nephilum alchemy comes from the Nephilum, so it's the

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<v Speaker 1>it's the forbidden art. So it kind of gives it

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<v Speaker 1>like this interdimensional demonic connotation where it was used for

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<v Speaker 1>it was passed down from the watchers or the Nephilm

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<v Speaker 1>and and all these things. Uh, it gives it a

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<v Speaker 1>supernatural origin. So but yeah, I see where you're coming from.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think some people would go with the more

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<v Speaker 1>Luciferian route because just because because it's cool, right, metal,

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<v Speaker 1>it's awesome, And yeah, I want to bring up here

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<v Speaker 1>this picture or go ahead and we'll bring up I

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring up this picture in a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>because it's got a different because the tree. Everyone when

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<v Speaker 1>they think of the Garden of Eden, they think about

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<v Speaker 1>an apple, right, But it was never specifically said that

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<v Speaker 1>it was an apple. Right, it wasn't an apple tree.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great place to start.

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<v Speaker 1>So was it an orange? Was it a golden apple?

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<v Speaker 1>Golden apple is kind of like a like an orange,

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<v Speaker 1>right or was it something else? And that's where we

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<v Speaker 1>get into right, I'll let you start and then we

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<v Speaker 1>can get into the palm tree stuff a little bit too.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. So as you were talking, I was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>check what E. Calloway wrote about the Tree of Life,

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<v Speaker 2>because I remember what he said about the tree of

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge of good and evil. But you know, and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>just real quick before we get into that, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>and we all eat of the fruit of knowledge of

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<v Speaker 2>good and evil right up until this day. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>not like endorsing it whatever, It's more just like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. He's all right, So now the Tree of Life?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this the only video.

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<v Speaker 2>Clips someone's working here?

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<v Speaker 1>Very bad? Yeah, I was probably another homeless man. Or

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<v Speaker 1>did somebody order him pizza and put his address. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's happened like twice while we've been on air.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm wondering if I want to pull up a

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<v Speaker 1>video of Callaway, but I don't know if this is

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<v Speaker 1>the only video of him talking about the biblical garden

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<v Speaker 1>of Eden and he says it's in Traya State, Park.

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<v Speaker 1>So like the fact that he points out an actual

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<v Speaker 1>do a meet up there one day. I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>a long overdue for a meetup. I have to talk

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<v Speaker 1>too long ago about that. But where is this place?

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<v Speaker 1>This is by Danced Farest by Tallahassee. So let's wait

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<v Speaker 1>for we pull it up here, we wait for long

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<v Speaker 1>Ago to fight that homeless man that knocked on the door.

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<v Speaker 1>So Toyo State Park, thirteen thousand acres, Florida State Park,

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<v Speaker 1>Calwie recites passages from the Bible that describe the mystical

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<v Speaker 1>garden and compares them to features along the Appalachicola River.

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<v Speaker 1>He tests that two features of the land scape prove

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<v Speaker 1>The second is the presence of gopher wood of the

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<v Speaker 1>gopher wood tree, which Noah used to build the arc.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Calaway, the Bible claims that both elements were

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<v Speaker 1>unique to the legendary garden and they are unique to

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<v Speaker 1>Terrea State Park. So it looks like long Ago won

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<v Speaker 1>that fight with the homeless man. What did the homeless

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a homeless guy, but it was the store

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<v Speaker 2>next door or across the street who I told to

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<v Speaker 2>be quiet earlier. So they came back to apologize.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's nice. Great people. I was gonna ask you, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>is this the only video of Callaway talking or is

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<v Speaker 1>there more video?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe so, so it's the only thing. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>something that's that's out there somewhere. He wrote one book

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<v Speaker 2>and then he wrote in the Beginning, So he wrote

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<v Speaker 2>the Other Side of the South in the beginning, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he wrote many newspaper articles as a commentator, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd respond to things. He was a well known guy

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida for a long time. But he was a freemason,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes he was. He I think he said he was

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, yeah, and I was just talking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>He talks about it being an actual place that you

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<v Speaker 1>can technically we could go Visy right now, we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to write like we can go here and walk around

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<v Speaker 1>where he claims that the garden was at.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a couple of places you can go. There's

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<v Speaker 2>Terrea State Park, there's the Garden of Eden Trail, which

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<v Speaker 2>is like a separate park. And the whole appalachical A

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<v Speaker 2>And that that fa g region, you know, so a

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<v Speaker 2>every lake Seminole, you know, is a popular fishing spot.

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<v Speaker 2>So much agriculture comes out of that area. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>Right over there corn one of the peanuts. They do

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, one of the interesting things because you

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<v Speaker 1>see and let me find it here. So speaking of freemasonry,

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<v Speaker 1>there is the symbol of the beehive in freemasonry, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And what's interesting about the beehive is that I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>I guess and you can call it an animal that

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<v Speaker 1>left unchanged from the Garden of Eden. Right, So I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard that before, and I'm like, you know why why

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<v Speaker 1>these people and by these people, I'm talking about these

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<v Speaker 1>secret societies and these secret circles. They use these symbols

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<v Speaker 1>for a reason. Now, is it because they want to

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<v Speaker 1>tap into that energy? Blah blah blah. That's all speculation,

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<v Speaker 1>but they for a reason what it represents? And what

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<v Speaker 1>if one of those reasons for using the bee and

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<v Speaker 1>then obviously the concept of the we talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>and we were we talked about the bee keepers living

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<v Speaker 1>the longest being one of the occupations that they they

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<v Speaker 1>lived the longest because of the frequencies. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We did a whole episode on Yulie's Gold.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>The movie set in kind of that area, not not

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<v Speaker 2>super close, but more or less, and that was all

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<v Speaker 2>about the Tupelo honey and Callaway. So there were no

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<v Speaker 2>honey bees in America before Columbus allegedly, okay, maybe in

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<v Speaker 2>some distant ancient time, but Columbus, sorry Callaway, believed that

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<v Speaker 2>there were beehives like fossilized beehives in that Garden of

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<v Speaker 2>Eden area apolectrical and when the Mormons came around and

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<v Speaker 2>started coming up with some of their theories. Well, Joseph

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<v Speaker 2>Smith was long before Callaway, but afterwards they started trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out where did these characters in the Book

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<v Speaker 2>of Mormon land. One of the top locations proposed locations

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<v Speaker 2>for where did the Mormons, you know, the ancient Israelites

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<v Speaker 2>land in America? The Apalachicola River. This guy Wayne May,

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<v Speaker 2>who's a really good researcher, amateur archaeologist. I don't use

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<v Speaker 2>amateur disparagingly. Maybe he's not amateur, I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's definitely counter you know, more publishment. Yeah, exactly. He's

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<v Speaker 2>off the mainstream. So but he makes good, really good presentations,

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<v Speaker 2>Wayne May, really good stuff. If you ever want to

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<v Speaker 2>give the Mormon history a chance. Wayne May is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And he goes through like the Hopewell culture and all

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff. So he he points to and some other

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<v Speaker 2>proponents of that theory. They point to Lehi Nephi Layman

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<v Speaker 2>landing in the same river that E. Callaway says, the

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<v Speaker 2>Gopher Wood and Noah's ark took off from What are

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<v Speaker 2>the odds of that? And Wayne May doesn't know anything

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<v Speaker 2>about that, I mean, not to my knowledge. He's never

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<v Speaker 2>talked about it or tied it into his theory. The

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<v Speaker 2>Mormons would end up buying Did I ever tell you that?

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<v Speaker 2>Did I ever tell you about John Klug?

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<v Speaker 1>No? It doesn't really.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look up him real quick, John Klug.

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<v Speaker 1>Please spell his last name k l u g E

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<v Speaker 1>German American entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yeah, go to's Wikipedia. Okay. So John Klug was

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<v Speaker 2>at one time the richest man in America, the wealthiest man.

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<v Speaker 2>He was on Forbes richest you know, for multiple years

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<v Speaker 2>in a row. Now in the nineties was the peak

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<v Speaker 2>of his wealth. Late eighties, early nineties, I believe, But

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<v Speaker 2>in Callaway's day. So Callaway started talking about the Garden

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<v Speaker 2>of Eden in the fifties, late fifties. He put out

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<v Speaker 2>his book nineteen sixty six, and then he kept developing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kept working on his theories, but he never

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<v Speaker 2>really added or got much more information out there. His

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<v Speaker 2>book in the beginning was very small and no many

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<v Speaker 2>were printed at all, very hard to come by. But

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<v Speaker 2>he ran almost like a tourist attraction at the Garden

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<v Speaker 2>of Eden. E. Calloway, And he put signs up, he

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<v Speaker 2>made claims in newspapers, He challenged people made all these

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<v Speaker 2>challenges to all these you know, doubters, deniers, naysayers, saying,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can, you know, disprove these theories, I'll pack

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<v Speaker 2>up and close shop, you know, and I'll sell the land.

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<v Speaker 2>John Klug heard about Callaway's claims. John Klug was very religious.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, somewhere in there'll say what church you belonged to?

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<v Speaker 2>But he took it very seriously. Now, John Klug, when

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<v Speaker 2>he heard about Callaway's theories, he challenged Callaway and said,

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<v Speaker 2>he John Klug, who had become the richest man in America.

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<v Speaker 2>He was already wealthy back then. He hired a team

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<v Speaker 2>of experts, a team of experts, I imagine they were archaeologists, historians,

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<v Speaker 2>biblical scholars, and he hired them to disprove Callaway. Now

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't in the book. Nobody knows about this. I

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<v Speaker 2>had to dig deep to find this out. John Klug

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<v Speaker 2>challenged him, hired a team of experts to disprove him.

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<v Speaker 2>And they go off and John Kluch said, you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>as much time as you need, as much money as

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<v Speaker 2>you need, whatever to shut this guy up. Because John

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<v Speaker 2>Klug was kind of interpreting this as heretical he was saying,

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<v Speaker 2>who is this guy to say, oh, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible's wrong. That's where a lot of people misinterpret this theory.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, Okay, if you're saying the garden of eads

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida, you're saying the Bible's wrong. Not really, we

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<v Speaker 2>have to hear Callaway's reasoning out first to understand he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't say that, because the only thing that can confuse

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<v Speaker 2>that is the name of the rivers Euphrates, Tigris or

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<v Speaker 2>the High Decale. I think is the Tigris and they

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<v Speaker 2>Pyson and the Gihon. Only two of those are over

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<v Speaker 2>in the Middle East today for certain. But when did

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<v Speaker 2>they get those names? As we all know, when people

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<v Speaker 2>get off a boat, they take the names that they

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<v Speaker 2>came with with them. So places that were very close

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<v Speaker 2>together in England are now spread out very far. The

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<v Speaker 2>same names are spread out very far in America, Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>You know names like Elizabeth, Virginia, you name it right,

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<v Speaker 2>so or you know even just like what are some

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<v Speaker 2>more conventional British names that are like uh, Edinburgh, you

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<v Speaker 2>know British names in America, British name Muhammad at the top.

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<v Speaker 1>But bro, my sister just moved to the UK a

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<v Speaker 2>You should, yeah, you should rename yourself to one kalug.

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<v Speaker 1>What this clue guy? But what what was his idea that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, strict hardcore Bible. What it says it's where

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<v Speaker 1>attack even though it's very it's not. It doesn't one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent, one hundred percent say exactly where it was, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't say it was an apple tree. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things that are open for interpretation.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. People interpret the names of the rivers to be

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<v Speaker 2>concrete evidence that. Okay, the garden of veans in Iraq,

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<v Speaker 2>it's never moved, it's always been there. But that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>always the case. Those names were not tied down to

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<v Speaker 2>those regions. I'm not going to say recently, but certainly

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<v Speaker 2>not in distant biblical times. So after the Crusades, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone had pretty much made their mind up and was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much convinced, Yeah, there's no garden of eton in

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<v Speaker 2>the Middle East. Okay, Now, after like almost a thousand years,

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<v Speaker 2>people are forgotten about that, and we've started romanticizing and

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<v Speaker 2>politicizing the Middle East again, and there's a big agenda

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<v Speaker 2>to get people to get Americans and Westerners to invest

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<v Speaker 2>you know, theologically in the Middle East, like not just Jerusalem,

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<v Speaker 2>but now we've pushed it over into Iraq too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one of the big significances of the Iraq

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<v Speaker 2>War was he had all these hillbillies from America who

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<v Speaker 2>are Christian, literally like trampling over what they've been told

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<v Speaker 2>is the Garden of Eden, the Euphrates River, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the this and that, like that whole region. So if

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<v Speaker 2>that were not the real Garden of Eden, how many

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<v Speaker 2>how many American soldiers would have really went over there

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<v Speaker 2>to fight in Iraq if that place had no biblical

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<v Speaker 2>significance whatsoever. So the Garden of Eden played at least

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<v Speaker 2>some role in the messianic kind of element or like

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<v Speaker 2>the well.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it made them want to.

417
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<v Speaker 2>Go scatology, like the eschatology or the a little bit. Yeah,

418
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.079
<v Speaker 2>some people. And if you ever watch like in Iraq

419
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>War or Gulf War documentary, you'll see soldiers being like, yeah, man,

420
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:35.480
<v Speaker 2>this is Abraham crossed these rivers. Yeah, we and humbies

421
00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:41.920
<v Speaker 2>crossing them. And then they're like then they're like, yeah, sergeant,

422
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:44.599
<v Speaker 2>should we really be dropping bombs on the Garden of Eden?

423
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Like, but it's it's sort of I mean jokes like

424
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<v Speaker 1>check because check this guy out right with this guy

425
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>During World War two, Kluge served at the secret po

426
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>box one one forward to interrogation. This was a fet bro.

427
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>This dude was a And it feels it feels kind

428
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:02.759
<v Speaker 1>of targeted in a way and almost like like a

429
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>sy op to make people believe it's over there right

430
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>how you're saying, because this this is new to me

431
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>where they felt proud of going over there of Abraham

432
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Crossy and here we are in a hum be Like

433
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:19.519
<v Speaker 1>that's brainwashing at its best, to want to make them

434
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<v Speaker 1>right and want to make people fight because you said,

435
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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, I thought, if it you know, it's

436
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<v Speaker 1>the garden even let's not go over there and do

437
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>any of that. But it's the other way around. It's like,

438
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.119
<v Speaker 1>O what it is, So let's go over there even

439
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:39.039
<v Speaker 1>more and go harder because and one of the I'm

440
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>not gonna bring this up. So one of the right,

441
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you have the tengu right. And one of the things

442
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:52.599
<v Speaker 1>I tried to my dad is real red leaning right,

443
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<v Speaker 1>very very real. And I started telling him about the

444
00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:03.559
<v Speaker 1>tengu right and the corruption and everything else that's associated

445
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>with it, even though I'm not antiseptic by any means.

446
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 1>I think I've I've met some tang or the nicest

447
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>tengu I've ever met in my life. Right, they would

448
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>give me the shirt off their backs if they could.

449
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>But when I started telling him a little bit about

450
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:17.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, hey, you do know there's like a group

451
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>of people that don't like them. He's like, what do

452
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>you mean that they don't like them? But they're they're

453
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:26.519
<v Speaker 1>the Chosen people, right, And I'm like, yeah, but do

454
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:29.279
<v Speaker 1>you wonder why maybe they were kicked out so many times? Like,

455
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>once you start getting kicked out over and over and

456
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:36.119
<v Speaker 1>over again, you can't just say it's persecution. They're trying

457
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>to take it's time because with the Chosen people, it's like, no, no,

458
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you might be a problem, right, So when I tried

459
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.079
<v Speaker 1>to nail that down to him, he was like, no,

460
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>but you can't that terrosy, you can't. So there's like

461
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>these two levels of brainwashing right where it's like where

462
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:54.319
<v Speaker 1>do you stand? And he couldn't believe that part. But

463
00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>here I am, because again I'm part of the conspiracy

464
00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>crowd that we're in this sort of Listen.

465
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<v Speaker 2>I think this pot's making you a little aggressive.

466
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm sober, dude. I haven't smoked pine like two years.

467
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:14.599
<v Speaker 2>And that was eyes wide shot quote.

468
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.359
<v Speaker 1>It's like, listen, guess what, dude, We're gonna do something.

469
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna we're overdue for. We're all we do for

470
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.039
<v Speaker 1>two things. We're we do for a meet up. All right,

471
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:27.759
<v Speaker 1>let's pick a full moon to have a meet up.

472
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:32.119
<v Speaker 1>And we're overdue for an in person podcast. And when

473
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I go down, Bro, we're gonna blaze up. All right,

474
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we're gonna smoke a bowl.

475
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:42.759
<v Speaker 2>Let's just relax one. This pod is making you aggressive.

476
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Aggressive, bro, it's making you an antiseptic.

477
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Dude, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. You're the THEO on. I'm

478
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:49.799
<v Speaker 2>the Joe Rogan to your theater.

479
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:54.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, you're crazy, dude. I gotta get off those meds.

480
00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I wish I was taking somebody the Yeah. What this

481
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>is interesting that this guy went out of his way

482
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:11.359
<v Speaker 1>to disprove Callaway on something not not trivial, but something

483
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:15.839
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people don't even think twice about. Right,

484
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:18.079
<v Speaker 1>But here this guy is going out of his way,

485
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:23.599
<v Speaker 1>almost sort of coordinated by this. It's a conspiracy, right.

486
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, and we'll hang on Huan Okay, because the story

487
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:31.279
<v Speaker 2>turns out pretty in a pretty interesting way. Now Calloway

488
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.079
<v Speaker 2>made the claims, I almost called him Huan Klug, tried

489
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:39.400
<v Speaker 2>to try to disprove him, and he hired the team

490
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:43.119
<v Speaker 2>of experts to study and what they found. Okay, they

491
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.640
<v Speaker 2>took a couple months at least, maybe more than that,

492
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:47.920
<v Speaker 2>but he told them as much time as you need,

493
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:50.000
<v Speaker 2>as much money as you need, I'm gonna fund it.

494
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:53.880
<v Speaker 2>So it's almost like a Indiana Jones type thing. And

495
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<v Speaker 2>he says, well, the team comes back to him after

496
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:02.799
<v Speaker 2>months of research, Okay, they took their hat off, and

497
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:07.240
<v Speaker 2>they're like, mister Klug, we regret to inform you that

498
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:13.280
<v Speaker 2>not only were we unable to disprove Calaba's evidence, he

499
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 2>has more evidence, more convincing evidence in Florida than all

500
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the Middle East combined.

501
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 1>Yikes.

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00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Not for Biblical history or not Hebrew history. Okay, we

503
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:28.079
<v Speaker 2>know that's in the Middle East. We're not saying that's wrong,

504
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:32.639
<v Speaker 2>but Garden of Eden history, things like the gopher would

505
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:36.559
<v Speaker 2>things like all the biblical plant species being found in

506
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:42.559
<v Speaker 2>one spot, all the animals. You know, you can branch

507
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.639
<v Speaker 2>off and talk about Atlantis and Afalatch like we did

508
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:49.440
<v Speaker 2>last time. Like all these rumors of this paradise to

509
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:53.599
<v Speaker 2>the West kind of line up, but from the biblical perspective,

510
00:34:54.440 --> 00:35:01.760
<v Speaker 2>they said. Mister Klug's team said, mister Klug, we know

511
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:03.840
<v Speaker 2>you just dumped all this money into the into this.

512
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.559
<v Speaker 2>We know we really looked, we really tried, and we

513
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:14.360
<v Speaker 2>cannot definitively disprove his claims. He actually has more evidence

514
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:17.639
<v Speaker 2>in this one little spot in Florida than they do

515
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:25.079
<v Speaker 2>in all of Iraq and Iran. So John Klug, what

516
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:29.639
<v Speaker 2>do you think he did after that? He bought the

517
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<v Speaker 2>Garden of Eden.

518
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:31.760
<v Speaker 1>No, he purchased it.

519
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 2>He bought as much of it as he could and

520
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:38.800
<v Speaker 2>held on to it for about ten years, with Callaway

521
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:42.559
<v Speaker 2>and him, you know, helping each other. Callaway was kind

522
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>of almost like a tour guide or an educator who

523
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:50.920
<v Speaker 2>worked there, and Klug took it over. Nobody knows about

524
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:54.920
<v Speaker 2>this very little information, And maybe you can go through

525
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.599
<v Speaker 2>like you know, Juan, I'd love if you could help

526
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:02.519
<v Speaker 2>me out finding like land and transfers, you know, history

527
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:06.760
<v Speaker 2>or records if you can. But I've found this through

528
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:10.239
<v Speaker 2>newspaper articles and you know, we know that, we know

529
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:14.280
<v Speaker 2>that it happened, but I'd be happy to get more specifics.

530
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:16.880
<v Speaker 2>John Klug purchased as much of the Garden of Eden

531
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<v Speaker 2>as he could. Calloways helped him, you know, for about

532
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:27.159
<v Speaker 2>another ten years. Callaway died in nineteen eighty nine around there,

533
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:34.920
<v Speaker 2>and now we're at like nineteen seventy six, almost eighty six,

534
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:38.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, closer to eighty six now. So Callaway was

535
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.119
<v Speaker 2>ready to retire. He was already super old in like

536
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:48.119
<v Speaker 2>the sixties and seventies. So so John Klug, John Klug

537
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:51.039
<v Speaker 2>just real quick sold it to who Who do you

538
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.159
<v Speaker 2>think John Klug sold it to? Who do you think

539
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:56.719
<v Speaker 2>bought the Garden of Eden after him?

540
00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So Bill Gates who.

541
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:05.440
<v Speaker 2>The Mormon Church ld LDS Latter day.

542
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Saints, which they own a lot of land in Florida.

543
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to this day, they're a lot of the largest

544
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:19.079
<v Speaker 2>largest landowner in Florida, private.

545
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Landowner in Florida, a lot of land.

546
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have some big ranches in Florida.

547
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:30.000
<v Speaker 1>But why would he do that if if it kind

548
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:33.960
<v Speaker 1>of went against his his relief, He started out kind

549
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:38.119
<v Speaker 1>of combative, try to prove him. They became they became

550
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>best buddies, They became friends. Is that that's how Cali

551
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>was able to kind of chill out. Was he a

552
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Mason too.

553
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:46.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't think he was a Mason.

554
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:52.679
<v Speaker 2>John Klug, he I think he was just honestly convinced.

555
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:57.559
<v Speaker 2>He paid this team to disprove Callaway. They told him

556
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<v Speaker 2>what they found. You know, I don't think any of

557
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:03.360
<v Speaker 2>them signed on to Callaway's theory, but they said, we

558
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:06.360
<v Speaker 2>can't disprove it. There's nothing he's saying. That's that ridiculous.

559
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:13.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, Noah came from somewhere and eventually Callawei must

560
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:18.840
<v Speaker 2>have convinced John Klug, the richest man in America, eventually

561
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:22.519
<v Speaker 2>to purchase the Garden of Eden in Florida. He held

562
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.360
<v Speaker 2>on to it for like ten years. The Mormons had

563
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:28.159
<v Speaker 2>it for like ten years maybe, and then it went

564
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:34.519
<v Speaker 2>to the state. And it's like, you know, Terrea State

565
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:38.519
<v Speaker 2>Park is a state park, the Garden of Eden Trail.

566
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:45.840
<v Speaker 2>It's operated by this like land conservation company, but it's

567
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.559
<v Speaker 2>protected land. You know, it's like owned by the state

568
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:53.360
<v Speaker 2>or stewarded by some private company for the state something

569
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:53.760
<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>They own over six hundred and seventy nine thousand acres, bro,

571
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:03.719
<v Speaker 1>which is a lot of acreage, and it's about roughly

572
00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:10.599
<v Speaker 1>two percent of Florida's total total land mass. So it's interesting,

573
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:15.920
<v Speaker 1>right because you know, but another part of me, it's like, Okay,

574
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:17.400
<v Speaker 1>this is the Garden of Eden and blah blah blah.

575
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I was in Florida. But also why is there so

576
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:22.719
<v Speaker 1>much destruction? Like I know, we were going to do

577
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:26.800
<v Speaker 1>that one documentary about the phosphate mining and all this

578
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>pollution too, that's in Florida. Where are they able to

579
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<v Speaker 1>do that because it's this great place, right that has

580
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.079
<v Speaker 1>so much to offer? Or are they doing it just

581
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:43.039
<v Speaker 1>because Like again, I mean, if you think about it,

582
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:51.239
<v Speaker 1>think about it, the phosphate industry, Florida provides. How much phosphate?

583
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Florida fertilizes much of the Western hemisphere.

584
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:03.960
<v Speaker 1>No, it's it's to the world though, bro, So how

585
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>much of it does Florida provide? Though? Let me look

586
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<v Speaker 1>it up. So Florida provides about a quarter twenty five

587
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<v Speaker 1>percent of the world's phosphate demand and roughly seventy five

588
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:26.960
<v Speaker 1>percent of the phosphorus used by US farmers. Yes, so

589
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty five percent of the world's demand and seventy five

590
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>percent of this of the US, which is a crazy

591
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:38.440
<v Speaker 1>amount if you think about it, and how you said,

592
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<v Speaker 1>just how the gopher tortous protects all these species and

593
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:47.119
<v Speaker 1>all these things. Right here is Florida giving back. But

594
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:52.159
<v Speaker 1>at what cost because the byproduct of this phosphorus is

595
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:57.679
<v Speaker 1>quite literally radioactive, and it's there's been a ton of

596
00:40:57.719 --> 00:40:59.880
<v Speaker 1>these lakes that have opened up with sinkholes that go

597
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:04.039
<v Speaker 1>directly into aquifers and they just destroy apps. That's why

598
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:05.679
<v Speaker 1>you got red ties and all these other things. I

599
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>just completely destroy it. So it's like all these corporations

600
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>buying it up because they know like, hey, this is

601
00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:14.039
<v Speaker 1>the black goal, bro, this is the premium material.

602
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:18.320
<v Speaker 2>I think they are. I think you're right. But you know, Juan,

603
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:25.880
<v Speaker 2>these corporations with their corporation corporations in there corporations, all

604
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:31.639
<v Speaker 2>they do is corporate and corporations, their corporation corporate. Well, Juan,

605
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:36.880
<v Speaker 2>you know in Florida, well, we like to say is developers. Okay,

606
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:41.400
<v Speaker 2>we don't like the developers coming in and tearing up Florida. Okay,

607
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:45.119
<v Speaker 2>keep Florida green. I just go to can't help go

608
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:49.239
<v Speaker 2>develop the parking lots that are already here, I can't

609
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:51.280
<v Speaker 2>help go develop the desert.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you one of my projects. Bro, I'll tell

611
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you one.

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00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Of my products. You're a developer, aren't.

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<v Speaker 1>You, not to the scale you think more of. I'm

614
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:05.079
<v Speaker 1>a now, I'm peanuts compared to some of these guys.

615
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:08.440
<v Speaker 1>But listen, Thissen, I'm gonna tell you one of my projects.

616
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:11.880
<v Speaker 1>One of my projects that I'm developing right now was

617
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:16.679
<v Speaker 1>actually a closed landfill, a closed construction, the bri landfill

618
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:21.039
<v Speaker 1>that's been closed for over thirty years that the county

619
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and the state have given me problems of four for

620
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:30.239
<v Speaker 1>the last three years because our government. I'm trying to

621
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<v Speaker 1>clean up a closed landfill and I am and we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it, and I've gotten so much pushback, Bro, do

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<v Speaker 1>you understand what that is? I told the committe I

624
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:45.719
<v Speaker 1>spoke to the commissioner, okay, and she knows. I don't

625
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>want to be mean. She was a nice lady, but

626
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>she was an idiot, Okay. I spent about thirty minutes

627
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:56.280
<v Speaker 1>explaining to her what we were trying to do. And

628
00:42:56.360 --> 00:42:58.559
<v Speaker 1>after the thirty and I understand it, it's a lot

629
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<v Speaker 1>to take in. After the minutes, she asked me a

630
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:04.280
<v Speaker 1>question at the end or told me something at the

631
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 1>end that I understood. She didn't hear absolutely anything I

632
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.400
<v Speaker 1>said to her. And I'm like, what are we doing here?

633
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:15.639
<v Speaker 1>So our own government works against us, right and I'm

634
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:18.079
<v Speaker 1>trying to clean up trash, I told the county. Oh

635
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:19.559
<v Speaker 1>my god, I can show you the email. I'm trying

636
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.559
<v Speaker 1>to clean up garbage from this old landfill.

637
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Said listen, I'm Puerto Rican.

638
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:31.159
<v Speaker 1>I know about garbage and islands, all right, bro, we're experts.

639
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:36.280
<v Speaker 1>So anyways, point being that a lot of our you know,

640
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.639
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it is to blame the commissioners and

641
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 1>these politicians that are in power, because you see it

642
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:44.880
<v Speaker 1>over and over again. And Orange County is one of

643
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:48.119
<v Speaker 1>those counties that where I'm at Central Florida, that it's

644
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>paid to play and you gotta pay to play, and

645
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:53.639
<v Speaker 1>they don't like it when you go against the grain

646
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and not pay them to play. And that's where you

647
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:01.519
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of problems. But yeah, anyways, I am developer,

648
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:05.719
<v Speaker 1>but not like that. I I try and help you

649
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.519
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I could have, But sometimes you

650
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:10.360
<v Speaker 1>just see a juicy lot with a bunch of trees

651
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and you just want to just mow it down and

652
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:16.159
<v Speaker 1>just build a house on it. I gotta feed my

653
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:16.960
<v Speaker 1>family too, bro.

654
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:20.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, houses aren't the worst thing ever, as long

655
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:22.559
<v Speaker 2>as we give them like an acre of space between

656
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:23.159
<v Speaker 2>them or something.

657
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:26.679
<v Speaker 1>You know, We're we're not doing like plan development. We're

658
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>doing development, not play development, which is different.

659
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Did these suburb fucking gated communities Edwards scissorhands semi semi

660
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:39.480
<v Speaker 2>gated communities? Dude, These things go up with like one

661
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:44.039
<v Speaker 2>hundred houses, two hundred, five hundred fucking insane, Dude. They

662
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:49.400
<v Speaker 2>tear up the everglades, they tear up go for tortoises,

663
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:55.320
<v Speaker 2>you know. And also, you know we talk about this stuff.

664
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:57.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not the number one motivation. I'm not going to

665
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:01.079
<v Speaker 2>be over here like, yeah, we gotta save the owls.

666
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Guys Like, Okay, I'm not. I'm no a leftist eco

667
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:15.239
<v Speaker 2>terrorist loser, but we can't. I am a hippie, Okay,

668
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:20.480
<v Speaker 2>we can't let Florida get destroyed by reckless, greedy developers.

669
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I know it's such a cliche just to like fling

670
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:28.039
<v Speaker 2>our problems at like some rich person, but it's true. Ah,

671
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:33.800
<v Speaker 2>the developers are destroying Florida. They're you know, if I

672
00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:38.400
<v Speaker 2>were governor of Florida tomorrow, I'd say, no more development

673
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:41.599
<v Speaker 2>if there's green, you know, and dutch it. If you

674
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:43.440
<v Speaker 2>see a parking lot and you want to flip that

675
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:48.440
<v Speaker 2>make into something cool whatever. No more green, no more

676
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:54.599
<v Speaker 2>wet or green development, and go develop the desert. That's

677
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:55.760
<v Speaker 2>what we need t shirts saying.

678
00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:59.840
<v Speaker 1>So it's not we're gonna have them real And and

679
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's interesting that we talk about Florida being

680
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:05.159
<v Speaker 1>over developed. Yes, in some areas that may seem like it,

681
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:09.920
<v Speaker 1>but there are a lot of areas that are undeveloped,

682
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.679
<v Speaker 1>and it's just like land and land and land for

683
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>a long time ago. Damn, there's nothing out here, and

684
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:17.159
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of places.

685
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:18.119
<v Speaker 2>To start licking your lips.

686
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, zactly. I started rubbing my hands together. I'm like,

687
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:25.480
<v Speaker 1>let's go. But yeah, no, there still are a lot

688
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:28.880
<v Speaker 1>of places that are a lot of land still untouched

689
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>right for the picking. And we're gonna be here along

690
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:33.760
<v Speaker 1>the way to do it.

691
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Well here. What I was gonna say was, you know,

692
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:40.679
<v Speaker 2>not to be too much of a uh you know,

693
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:47.880
<v Speaker 2>conservationist or whatever. I believe in all that these theories

694
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:53.039
<v Speaker 2>are going to get more attention to the terree attacks

695
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:56.840
<v Speaker 2>folio the Florida gopher wood, which is an endangered tree species,

696
00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>and the gopher tortoise. The talking about Noah's Ark being

697
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:08.119
<v Speaker 2>built out of gopher wood at this endangered species and

698
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:12.159
<v Speaker 2>the gopher tortoise. You know how those all tie in together.

699
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:17.400
<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be a great route to help protect these

700
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:24.920
<v Speaker 2>two species, you know, Terrea daxifolia, gopher tortoise, and those

701
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:27.639
<v Speaker 2>two are getting hit the hardest. Terrea not so much

702
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:32.800
<v Speaker 2>by development, but more just lack of awareness, lack of care.

703
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:38.400
<v Speaker 2>No one really knows or cares. But gopher tortoises are

704
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:41.960
<v Speaker 2>getting paved over all the time every year in Florida.

705
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:48.880
<v Speaker 1>And you know what's how big do these trees get?

706
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:51.400
<v Speaker 1>They get big, They go.

707
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Like fifty feet maybe at most. They're not like that big.

708
00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh I saw it's pretty big.

709
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think the tallest one ever was like fifty defeat.

710
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:03.239
<v Speaker 2>But they used to be bigger during the ice age?

711
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So where were we at so that they become

712
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:10.880
<v Speaker 1>best they become best buds. He kind of funds the

713
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:13.239
<v Speaker 1>operation that he turns around, flips it, sells it to

714
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.199
<v Speaker 1>the Mormon Church, and then the Mormon Church, Well, I

715
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:20.840
<v Speaker 1>can imagine donates it to the state and the state

716
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 1>takes it over.

717
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was maybe one or two private owners in

718
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:28.199
<v Speaker 2>there somewhere in between that we skipped over.

719
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, more or less okay, and let's where do

720
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 1>we go from here? Let me look at my head.

721
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:39.000
<v Speaker 2>So the tree of life. Just just to reiterate on this,

722
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:40.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, we talked about the tree of knowledge of

723
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:47.159
<v Speaker 2>good and evil in the more metaphorical or allegorical sense

724
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:51.159
<v Speaker 2>symbolic just just for everyone out there, we are going

725
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:54.960
<v Speaker 2>to talk about all the literal candidates for the Tree

726
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:58.719
<v Speaker 2>of Knowledge and the Tree of life. We're gonna talk

727
00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:01.960
<v Speaker 2>about what trees they could or not be. So don't

728
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:04.639
<v Speaker 2>think that we were done with that portion. Okay, We're

729
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.000
<v Speaker 2>going to get very literal and in depth here in

730
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:11.000
<v Speaker 2>a sec But the tree of life, if you want

731
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:14.639
<v Speaker 2>to just real quick, real quick, what Kalawai was saying.

732
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 2>He points to the tree of life being the laws

733
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:24.840
<v Speaker 2>of God, the forces of creation. You know, all that

734
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:27.400
<v Speaker 2>is good, like all that is kind of growing and

735
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:31.239
<v Speaker 2>spreading outward and upward, guided by the principles of God,

736
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:35.840
<v Speaker 2>the laws of God. He almost kind of makes like

737
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:44.599
<v Speaker 2>some acronyms or like there's four parts. To let me

738
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:49.000
<v Speaker 2>see what he says here. God is law. You know,

739
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:52.679
<v Speaker 2>Law does not have any headquarters. It is infinite, universal, everywhere,

740
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:55.159
<v Speaker 2>home in the present. I am a God at hand

741
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:59.760
<v Speaker 2>and a and not a god afar off. He points

742
00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:06.079
<v Speaker 2>to the Tree of Life as belief in a supreme

743
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:11.159
<v Speaker 2>being and just placing your complete faith in God. You know,

744
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:15.119
<v Speaker 2>he kind of leaves it a little vague, but he

745
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:18.039
<v Speaker 2>believes the Tree of Life was more or less as symbolic,

746
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:20.639
<v Speaker 2>as he said the tree of knowledge of good and

747
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:27.760
<v Speaker 2>evil was so but all right, So that's what he said.

748
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:33.239
<v Speaker 2>He definitely didn't rest the whole theory on what the

749
00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Tree of Life or Tree of Knowledge were, but he

750
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:39.400
<v Speaker 2>touched on it a little bit. I agree there. You know,

751
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:42.000
<v Speaker 2>he could have said some more, could have fleshed it

752
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:46.159
<v Speaker 2>out a little bit. But uh, you know, where do

753
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:47.239
<v Speaker 2>we go from here? Juan?

754
00:50:47.719 --> 00:50:50.679
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that this is a mockery right because

755
00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:56.199
<v Speaker 1>we talk about it's interesting that Disney and his brother,

756
00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the Disney Bros. Came here to Florida and they they

757
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:06.159
<v Speaker 1>licked their hands too, right, or licked their hands and

758
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:09.119
<v Speaker 1>licked their lips and rubbed their hands together, or probably

759
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:11.920
<v Speaker 1>did both. Okay, they licked their hands too, and they

760
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>saw this this you know how many acres of land

761
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:21.199
<v Speaker 1>and they just completely demolished it and they put up

762
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:24.880
<v Speaker 1>tree of life in here. And this is one of

763
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:27.840
<v Speaker 1>these trees that you've talked about before that looks like

764
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.000
<v Speaker 1>an upside down Is this the upside down tree that

765
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:33.400
<v Speaker 1>you've talked about before where it looks like the roots

766
00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 1>are at the top.

767
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's a baya bab?

768
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:41.639
<v Speaker 1>Isn't there wasn't there a baya bab in? Where did

769
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:42.519
<v Speaker 1>we go out? There was one?

770
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:47.559
<v Speaker 2>We went someone? And is Hollywood, Florida a circle? And

771
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:50.000
<v Speaker 2>then there is a couple in.

772
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Miami the Flagler House or no.

773
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Whoa, that's a kpak tree. Okay, So let's let's go

774
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:58.360
<v Speaker 2>through all the candidates. We're on the baya bab right now,

775
00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:03.400
<v Speaker 2>so we'll start off with that one. You know, just

776
00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:07.360
<v Speaker 2>I know, we have many like kind of high brow

777
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:15.480
<v Speaker 2>or you know, very heady intellectual viewers who've certainly you know,

778
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:22.400
<v Speaker 2>worked around the symbolism allegory. So bear with us. It's

779
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:28.159
<v Speaker 2>not foolish to interpret the Bible literally, Okay, definitely not.

780
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:31.440
<v Speaker 2>I always say, if you're going to engage in any

781
00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:35.960
<v Speaker 2>or entertain any of these higher interpretations like the allegory

782
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:41.800
<v Speaker 2>or symbolism, allegory, transcendental truth. You've got to swallow the literal.

783
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:49.000
<v Speaker 2>You can't build a functioning allegory out of a false statement,

784
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:52.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, or obviously false, or something that's not rooted

785
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:57.000
<v Speaker 2>in truth. So you've got to be able to swallow

786
00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:00.199
<v Speaker 2>the Bible literally. Okay, and I say swallow the as

787
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.400
<v Speaker 2>people are reluctant. You know, they think, oh, I know

788
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:06.239
<v Speaker 2>more than that, I know better than that, I've researched that.

789
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:08.559
<v Speaker 2>This book was actually added this and they took this

790
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:11.639
<v Speaker 2>book out and this verse was added. Later. People get

791
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:15.559
<v Speaker 2>so intellectual and they get so into it. They start

792
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:18.599
<v Speaker 2>to think they're a scholar of the Bible. They start

793
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:22.840
<v Speaker 2>to use academia as their new religion, and the peer

794
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:27.360
<v Speaker 2>reviews become their you know, counsels of truth, and their

795
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:33.119
<v Speaker 2>science educators become their new arbiters of truth, and it's

796
00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:36.440
<v Speaker 2>all new religion. People lose faith, they get you know,

797
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:43.400
<v Speaker 2>they lose their firm footing just real quick. To interpret

798
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:50.280
<v Speaker 2>these things literally shows humility. It shows that we're, okay,

799
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:54.000
<v Speaker 2>not understanding every single part of it. Okay, you know,

800
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:59.320
<v Speaker 2>the greatest thing in the world is an ordinary man

801
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:03.400
<v Speaker 2>and his ordinary wife and their ordinary children, right, just

802
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:06.760
<v Speaker 2>living God's plan, not trying to take a peek behind

803
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:12.400
<v Speaker 2>the curtain all the time and all that. But with

804
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:15.119
<v Speaker 2>all that said, you know, there's there's the preface, there's

805
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:21.280
<v Speaker 2>the disclaimer. Uh, you know, we're going to talk about

806
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:23.960
<v Speaker 2>the symbolism of the allegory too, but we'll start off

807
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:26.159
<v Speaker 2>with the literal. So I don't want to see too

808
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:30.119
<v Speaker 2>many people shaming us saying, oh, you really think it's

809
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:34.480
<v Speaker 2>a tree, You really think it's a fruit, You really

810
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:34.880
<v Speaker 2>think that.

811
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I want to mention at the beginning. There's the

812
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:39.920
<v Speaker 1>metaphysical and there's the physical.

813
00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, my consciousness is kind of always no,

814
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:57.239
<v Speaker 2>don't yeah, don't don't entertain them. Yeah, sorry, there's someone

815
00:54:57.239 --> 00:55:00.639
<v Speaker 2>at the door ask for stuff.

816
00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:05.800
<v Speaker 1>But so yeah, I mean we talked about that at

817
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the beginning. It's it's not you know, there there's multiple

818
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:15.079
<v Speaker 1>ways of interpreting things, and I don't think it's I

819
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:17.519
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's bad to talk about every different aspect

820
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:18.639
<v Speaker 1>of it.

821
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I deal with a lot of condescending,

822
00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:27.639
<v Speaker 2>smug No. It all's you know, maybe I'm maybe I'm

823
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:35.679
<v Speaker 2>one of them, but uh yeah, So all right, what

824
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:42.199
<v Speaker 2>are some of the candidates for the real tree of life?

825
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever thought about it? You know, fig tree

826
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.360
<v Speaker 2>is not a bad place to start, but Baabab we'll

827
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:53.719
<v Speaker 2>start with the Beyabab. So the expression or the title

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<v Speaker 2>tree of life is not exclusive to the Bible. Tree

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<v Speaker 2>of life is kind of a concept all around the world. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>there's more mystical interpretations, more like geographic interpretations like oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the center tree at the center of the North Pole

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the world, things like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>the tree of life in the Bible, let's see, well

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<v Speaker 2>in Africa, well, since we're on the Bay of Bab

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<v Speaker 2>tree in Africa, Madagascar and parts of India, they look

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<v Speaker 2>at the Bay of Bab tree as the tree of life. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible doesn't lay out these criteria, but there is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a loose criteria for what a tree

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<v Speaker 2>of life is. It provides food, shelter, so food, shelter, clothing,

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<v Speaker 2>and water. The tree of life pretty much provides all

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<v Speaker 2>of man's needs. And not every tree fits into that category.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, not all a lot of trees have fruit,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them can be kind of fashioned into crafts,

844
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<v Speaker 2>you know, crafted into tools and clothing. But not many

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<v Speaker 2>trees provide shelter in the true sense, like natural sense,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning you can go inside a babe ab tree a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times and they're they're really big.

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<v Speaker 1>That tree, hussy, bro, but are not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to get I'm trying to get up in there.

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<v Speaker 2>H But people use them as houses, uh, jails, bars,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they provide actual shelter and they can be

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're they have fibers, they have bark. All

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<v Speaker 2>the different pieces can be fast into clothing. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know this is not something you find in It's not

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<v Speaker 2>native to Iraq, it's not native to Florida, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>a good candidate. Well here, how about this. Let's start

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<v Speaker 2>off with the ones that are native to Florida. Okay,

858
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<v Speaker 2>because we yeah, let's take that direction. That'll be better.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the Torrea State Park, right, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>look them over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you were talking, you were searching about the fig tree.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good place to start. So the first plant

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<v Speaker 2>named by name in the Bible is the fig tree.

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<v Speaker 2>So fig leaves, at least in the English Bible. You

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned there's no apples in the garden of Eden, or

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<v Speaker 2>they're not mentioned by name, it just says fruit. And

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<v Speaker 2>now apple we talked about before, we were talking about

868
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<v Speaker 2>afalach in the Welsh other world, you know, America, the Avalon.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about how apples Appalachicola seems to have the

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<v Speaker 2>word apple in it too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, apple is kind of a generic It was a

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<v Speaker 2>generic term. It could apply to all different types of

874
00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:25.599
<v Speaker 2>fruit until recently apples. I'm saying recently, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Three hundred years, two in years, one hundred and fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Within that time period, apple, the word apple came to

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<v Speaker 2>mean the apple from Kazakhstan, the common apple we know today.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not always what apple meant. So people shouldn't get

879
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<v Speaker 2>hung up on the word apple too much. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe the Tree of Life or the Tree of Knowledge

881
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:55.599
<v Speaker 2>was an apple tree, but we do have Appalachicola in Florida,

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00:59:55.719 --> 01:00:02.199
<v Speaker 2>so it could be a connection. Therew the fig tree.

883
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<v Speaker 2>Figs are native to Florida, so that's one clue when

884
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:10.480
<v Speaker 2>evidence right there. Figs are native to Florida, multiple types.

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<v Speaker 2>There are strangler trees that are native to Florida which

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<v Speaker 2>are in the fig family too, and then of course

887
01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:26.280
<v Speaker 2>the banyons and Ficus Ficus religiosa, like the Buddha's ficus tree.

888
01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:31.719
<v Speaker 2>The Banyan trees from Asia have been brought over to America,

889
01:00:32.199 --> 01:00:38.599
<v Speaker 2>brought over to Florida since like the nineties, maybe eighteen nineties, ninety,

890
01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:42.679
<v Speaker 2>early nineteen hundreds, nineteen twenties, there was already there's definitely

891
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:47.039
<v Speaker 2>a lot of Banyan trees in Florida by then. But figs,

892
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:49.920
<v Speaker 2>so figs are all over Florida. So if we're going

893
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<v Speaker 2>down our Bible checklist, figs are in Florida. Check fig leaves.

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01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:00.639
<v Speaker 2>Adam and Eve were covered with fig leaves according to

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01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:09.360
<v Speaker 2>the English Bible. But I don't think too many people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think people really say that the garden or

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01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:14.800
<v Speaker 2>the tree of knowledge of good and evil was a

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01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:18.880
<v Speaker 2>fig I don't hear that too much. But some popular

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<v Speaker 2>candidates for what the tree of knowledge of good and

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01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:26.400
<v Speaker 2>evil were. I know, we're on the tree of life

901
01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:29.760
<v Speaker 2>right now, But people like to say from like more

902
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:32.920
<v Speaker 2>of a biblical point of view or an archaeological point

903
01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:39.920
<v Speaker 2>of view. In the Middle East, they'll say citrus sometimes

904
01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:43.320
<v Speaker 2>against citrus is not really native to the Middle East either.

905
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:50.159
<v Speaker 2>But citrus plays an important role in Hebrew ceremony and

906
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Hebrew holidays Jewish holidays, but so does the palm tree.

907
01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:59.599
<v Speaker 2>I know we're going to talk about the palm tree.

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01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:06.760
<v Speaker 1>A strangler fig tree. Yeah, is there like a parasite

909
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:08.039
<v Speaker 1>that crawls out of there.

910
01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:15.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, it gets dropped, usually from birds, sometimes like a

911
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:20.280
<v Speaker 2>raccoon or something will drop the seeds up at the

912
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:24.599
<v Speaker 2>top of another tree, and then instead of growing upward,

913
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:30.519
<v Speaker 2>they grow downward. So that's some of the religious symbolism

914
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:34.360
<v Speaker 2>there is. Whoa dude, They grow down, They grow down

915
01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:38.119
<v Speaker 2>from the heaven, from heaven down to earth. You know,

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01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:43.519
<v Speaker 2>they seem to grow downward, and they strangle the trees

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<v Speaker 2>that they start out on over time and take them over,

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01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:52.199
<v Speaker 2>and they're strong. So once they take over a tree,

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01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:55.360
<v Speaker 2>once they're latched on, it's kind of hard to get

920
01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:55.880
<v Speaker 2>rid of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But whoa dude. So we have.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the Buddha Buddha was you know, it is said

923
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:11.519
<v Speaker 2>to have reached enlightenment or attained enlightenment underneath a banyon

924
01:03:11.800 --> 01:03:13.840
<v Speaker 2>or fig or ficus tree.

925
01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:21.599
<v Speaker 1>So got the paradise tree that's also native to Florida. Okay,

926
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you ever heard of that. No, a flowering tree needed

927
01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:32.599
<v Speaker 1>to Florida, South America and the Caribbean. The paradise tree,

928
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:36.280
<v Speaker 1>the century bark and bitterwood one sec.

929
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<v Speaker 2>I'll be right back one.

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<v Speaker 1>So it produces fruit, so it's native to South Florida

931
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:52.360
<v Speaker 1>and it produces edible fruit. So there are let's see

932
01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:58.119
<v Speaker 1>what the what does the fruit look like? Fruit? Paradise tree, right,

933
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:07.239
<v Speaker 1>so they look like like grapes. What is this? Also

934
01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:12.639
<v Speaker 1>like little dates kind of which we'll get into the

935
01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:17.000
<v Speaker 1>palm tree here soon. So we have the strangler fig, which,

936
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<v Speaker 1>which we just talked about, one of Florida's most fascinating

937
01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:23.559
<v Speaker 1>native trees, begins life in another tree and eventually becomes

938
01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:28.679
<v Speaker 1>a giant independent organism. Ancient fig trees are deeply connected

939
01:04:28.679 --> 01:04:32.679
<v Speaker 1>to biblical imagery. Again, Adam and Eve's fig leaves figs

940
01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:38.679
<v Speaker 1>up here throughout the scripture. And we have the gumbo limbo.

941
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:51.960
<v Speaker 1>What is that in Florida? A fast growing, highly wind

942
01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:54.280
<v Speaker 1>resistant native tree found in South Florida.

943
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<v Speaker 2>Keys So who told you that? Who? Where'd you come

944
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:00.239
<v Speaker 2>up with? Gumbling? Or?

945
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Uh? Now? I looked up native native Florida species and

946
01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:08.840
<v Speaker 1>trees that are good candidates for the Garden of.

947
01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Eden, damn and you search AI with that? Yeah, bro, okay,

948
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:18.400
<v Speaker 2>you're giving them, you're giving them all my secrets. Dude,

949
01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:20.320
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck you gotta be You gotta go a

950
01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:21.719
<v Speaker 2>little deeper than Wikipedia.

951
01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:24.039
<v Speaker 1>Dude, you know you gotta be deeper. You got we

952
01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:25.960
<v Speaker 1>gotta go deeper. So we're trying to go deeper.

953
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Bro, what that aid goes?

954
01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah.

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01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:37.519
<v Speaker 2>So a gumbo limbo, that's a good candidate. That's a

956
01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:43.760
<v Speaker 2>good that's a good one. So people, you know, uh, Frankinson's,

957
01:05:44.679 --> 01:05:49.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, Frankinson's. I think it's franknsense. It's either Frankinson's

958
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:53.159
<v Speaker 2>or a Casia. Gumbo limbo is one of the closest

959
01:05:53.199 --> 01:06:00.800
<v Speaker 2>relatives to frankinsense. I believe search gumbo Limbo related of Frankinson's.

960
01:06:05.239 --> 01:06:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Is it like that? Since since now well I n

961
01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:15.840
<v Speaker 1>c ah, just go to all.

962
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:25.800
<v Speaker 2>It'll explain it. Yeah, same family as Frankinson's. Closely related,

963
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:32.920
<v Speaker 2>same family. They are both prized for their incense the resins. Okay,

964
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:36.480
<v Speaker 2>so gumbo limbo. I don't know if it's endangered, but

965
01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:40.320
<v Speaker 2>it's it's kind of well known, kind of like romanticized tree.

966
01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Especially down here we have gumbo limbo. This like nature

967
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:52.920
<v Speaker 2>uh you know education wildlife education facility over in Boca Raton,

968
01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:58.639
<v Speaker 2>and you have it's name for the gumbo limbo tree.

969
01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:04.800
<v Speaker 2>And now gumbo is very close to Frankinson's, so it

970
01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:07.559
<v Speaker 2>can be used for a similar thing. And Franknson's played

971
01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:13.119
<v Speaker 2>a significant role in of course the Old Testament, you know,

972
01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:20.159
<v Speaker 2>the Hebrew. The Israelite priests would use franknsins and mirror

973
01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:23.880
<v Speaker 2>pretty much for all their activities. It had to be burning,

974
01:07:23.960 --> 01:07:26.360
<v Speaker 2>especially in the Tabernac all around the arc of the

975
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Covenant and stuff. Frankinston's murr cinnamon cannabis too, I believe.

976
01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:37.840
<v Speaker 2>But and then when Jesus comes around, you know, they

977
01:07:37.840 --> 01:07:41.360
<v Speaker 2>give him Frankinson's and mr. So we've got it here

978
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:48.320
<v Speaker 2>right close enough, right a distant not not distant, close relative,

979
01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:51.760
<v Speaker 2>good enough for me, Tammar And yeah, we don't need

980
01:07:51.800 --> 01:07:54.800
<v Speaker 2>to worry about tammering. That's not no, no no. Here.

981
01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:57.440
<v Speaker 2>AI is not going to give you good info on this.

982
01:07:57.480 --> 01:07:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

983
01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:02.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm I'm AI's daddy. Okay, Yeah, I have a

984
01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:09.760
<v Speaker 2>greater source than AI. It's called yahweh Okay. The AI

985
01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:11.519
<v Speaker 2>is yeah, way backwards by the way.

986
01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let's talk about the what is called the pond.

987
01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Gumbo and bow is pretty good. Nah, that's not really

988
01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:26.319
<v Speaker 2>good one. Yeah, you know we have apples.

989
01:08:26.760 --> 01:08:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Do they taste any good?

990
01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've tasted one of these. But when

991
01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:34.199
<v Speaker 2>we get to the tree of a knowledge of good

992
01:08:34.199 --> 01:08:37.560
<v Speaker 2>and evil, the forbidden fruit, We've got an apple that

993
01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:40.760
<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about. That's really convincing candidates.

994
01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:44.880
<v Speaker 1>One of the most floridian pictures I've ever seen, the

995
01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:49.159
<v Speaker 1>gator eating an apple.

996
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh ship my been.

997
01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bro, come on, dude, whatever tastes or not.

998
01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they taste pretty good from what I've heard. But

999
01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:00.960
<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about another one. It's very similar

1000
01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:03.399
<v Speaker 2>that people really get right here.

1001
01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Reminiscence of ripe honeydew. Lemon. Oh I love lemon. Okay,

1002
01:09:07.800 --> 01:09:11.079
<v Speaker 1>he made it to jam, popular ingredient of fruit drinks. Well,

1003
01:09:11.159 --> 01:09:14.920
<v Speaker 1>thieves in the past, seeds are okay, Okay, look at this.

1004
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:18.279
<v Speaker 1>The seeds were crushing cooked and coconut oil is applied

1005
01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:19.479
<v Speaker 1>to hair to get rid of rice.

1006
01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't think that's the tree of life. But

1007
01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:28.199
<v Speaker 2>let's let's put out some other candidates. Okay, all right,

1008
01:09:28.800 --> 01:09:29.439
<v Speaker 2>here you go.

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01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:32.359
<v Speaker 1>A live oak.

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01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:36.000
<v Speaker 2>We do have oak trees. Now, I don't think oak

1011
01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:37.439
<v Speaker 2>is a convincing candidate.

1012
01:09:37.640 --> 01:09:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no there's no fruit. But some dude I

1013
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:43.760
<v Speaker 1>drive past some crazy Okay, I look.

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01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Gnarly search the century oak centry Oak, Yeah, Florida.

1015
01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah is this a place tree?

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01:09:56.720 --> 01:09:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's in Georgia. Actually no, it's in Tallassy.

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01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Has this one?

1018
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Answer? That one's pretty big. Then there is the whoa,

1019
01:10:07.760 --> 01:10:13.000
<v Speaker 2>you've been here one? Yeah, I've been there. There's another one.

1020
01:10:16.359 --> 01:10:18.640
<v Speaker 2>There's a bigger one. There's a couple of bigger ones.

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01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:22.039
<v Speaker 2>So the spooner oak. Okay, this is like the tree

1022
01:10:22.079 --> 01:10:24.000
<v Speaker 2>of life. Search the spooner oak.

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01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:34.800
<v Speaker 1>The spoon bruh oh Dan, Look how small he is?

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01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Look at look at my video. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>video too, if you want to look at it. I

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01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:43.079
<v Speaker 2>think I get the perspective better.

1027
01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:45.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know you're what are you like? Five to two?

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01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:45.319
<v Speaker 3>Bro?

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01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:52.039
<v Speaker 2>Funny? I think, uh, that's all right, I won you

1030
01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:54.319
<v Speaker 2>just missed a foot.

1031
01:10:55.640 --> 01:10:59.399
<v Speaker 1>Let's see here. You're in my search history, bro.

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01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Overal Florida, spooner oak sort of?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, look how tiny you are? Bro? Yep, you're

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01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:14.000
<v Speaker 1>at least five to three.

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01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Yep, one pone stelio in size. Can I watch this?

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01:11:22.039 --> 01:11:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Can you guys hear my audio?

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01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:23.319
<v Speaker 3>Or no?

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01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't need to listen. It's okay.

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01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I just want to see how tiny you are.

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01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Well whatever gets you off one whatever, Look how big

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01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:41.960
<v Speaker 2>you'll see in a second. This is just over the

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01:11:41.960 --> 01:11:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Florida state line. It is right smack dab in the

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01:11:46.279 --> 01:11:49.520
<v Speaker 2>middle of the Garden of Eden area. You could not

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01:11:49.640 --> 01:11:54.760
<v Speaker 2>be more perfectly like here's the four Rivers in the

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01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Garden of Eden. This is Alabama's over here to you

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01:11:58.199 --> 01:11:59.239
<v Speaker 2>from the Garden of Eden.

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01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:02.159
<v Speaker 1>Bro. Hold on, hold on, I gotta play the audio

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01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:05.479
<v Speaker 1>on this, Bro, I gotta play the audio on this.

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01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:11.159
<v Speaker 1>I have to because you sound like such a bitch.

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01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Dude, gotta play bro.

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01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Check this out, Check this out. Hi, I'm Narco long Ago.

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01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Why judge, This is doctor Narco Longo talking to you

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01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:34.800
<v Speaker 2>from the Garden of Eden, Iron City, Georgia, Lapel mic

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01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:38.359
<v Speaker 2>Bro just north of Lake Seminole. It's got no low end.

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01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:40.640
<v Speaker 2>They were standing in front Cancer two type.

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01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Brother. They're excusing your balls, oak Tree.

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01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:46.359
<v Speaker 2>There's no low end in the microphone.

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01:12:47.560 --> 01:12:50.279
<v Speaker 4>We're daying here two live fIF.

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01:12:52.119 --> 01:12:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Who's this guy?

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01:12:57.680 --> 01:12:59.119
<v Speaker 2>That's that's uh.

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01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Georgia game and late personally.

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01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:06.359
<v Speaker 4>Break search from what.

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01:13:06.439 --> 01:13:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I would rate the bats some local guy the biggest

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01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:16.359
<v Speaker 2>in the world, the largest oak tree in the world.

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01:13:17.119 --> 01:13:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Whoa many oak trees that would like to be the

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01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:20.760
<v Speaker 2>largest in the world.

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01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:22.439
<v Speaker 1>But when we.

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01:13:22.479 --> 01:13:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Determine this, we're talking about single trunk or single stem,

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01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:29.680
<v Speaker 2>and that's what makes this tree unique. Is it a

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01:13:29.720 --> 01:13:31.399
<v Speaker 2>single tree?

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01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I got a single trunk for you.

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01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Bro Live oaks like this one tend to grow in

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01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:41.760
<v Speaker 2>clumps and clusters, and those can get pretty large. Multi

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01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:42.479
<v Speaker 2>trunk tree.

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01:13:43.119 --> 01:13:45.680
<v Speaker 4>Are they multiple acorns?

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01:13:46.600 --> 01:13:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Yep?

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01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Most And how old do they say it is?

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01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Bro because they branched low at least five hundred, probably

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01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:55.560
<v Speaker 2>like two thousand.

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01:13:55.920 --> 01:14:02.319
<v Speaker 4>Another question, this is by far the biggest single trunk Yes, yeah.

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01:14:02.239 --> 01:14:04.479
<v Speaker 2>That I know of, but I know of now. It's

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01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:09.680
<v Speaker 2>what makes this one especially unique is some of the

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01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:12.600
<v Speaker 2>largest oak trees in the world, regardless of how many

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01:14:14.079 --> 01:14:19.800
<v Speaker 2>trunk stocks they have, still are only barely larger than

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01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:20.760
<v Speaker 2>this tree here.

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01:14:21.399 --> 01:14:23.279
<v Speaker 4>How many trunks should the white crops trade?

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01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Hail three?

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01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Good three.

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01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:33.359
<v Speaker 2>Village Sentinel. That's another good one. With the way Cross oak.

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01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:38.159
<v Speaker 1>That's.

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01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:42.920
<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna eat me if I hate a little

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01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:47.319
<v Speaker 2>if I you're not sorry. Fuck, I'm retarded, so you're

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01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:49.199
<v Speaker 2>not gonna You're not gonna hate me if I eat

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01:14:49.239 --> 01:14:50.439
<v Speaker 2>a little food, eat.

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01:14:50.239 --> 01:15:05.359
<v Speaker 1>A little snacky snack, some good weeds. Mm hmm. Girth,

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01:15:07.239 --> 01:15:11.319
<v Speaker 1>the best method is. The girth is not taking in

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01:15:11.399 --> 01:15:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the big crazy. It's not.

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01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:16.239
<v Speaker 4>And if David and I with five hundred pound haul

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01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:17.840
<v Speaker 4>and still bigger than the four.

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01:15:17.720 --> 01:15:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

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01:15:18.840 --> 01:15:20.760
<v Speaker 5>Let me tell you. Just because the tree is the champion,

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01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:23.279
<v Speaker 5>doesn't mean it's the tallest. It doesn't mean it's the oldest,

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01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:25.960
<v Speaker 5>doesn't mean it's the fattest, doesn't mean it's the widest.

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01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:29.600
<v Speaker 5>It just means, by this formula that was set up

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01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:33.000
<v Speaker 5>in nineteen thirty eight, it has the most points. All

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01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:35.600
<v Speaker 5>that means. That's it. It has the most points. It

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01:15:35.680 --> 01:15:36.439
<v Speaker 5>means nothing else.

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01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:40.319
<v Speaker 2>Now the age for this tree, they haven't given for certain,

1109
01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:47.359
<v Speaker 2>but I've heard ranges from two hundred, three hundred, six hundred.

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01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I joined the navy eighteen years old.

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01:15:50.119 --> 01:15:58.079
<v Speaker 4>Y'all, y'all not the same size then I see free Now.

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01:15:58.079 --> 01:15:58.760
<v Speaker 1>You'll be ninety.

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01:15:58.840 --> 01:16:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Pretty wow, And it doesn't seem like it's changed in

1114
01:16:01.279 --> 01:16:05.319
<v Speaker 2>size and years. Wow I'm going to have to come

1115
01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:08.159
<v Speaker 2>out and say this is much much older than six

1116
01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:12.199
<v Speaker 2>hundred because I am trust trees in South Florida and

1117
01:16:12.279 --> 01:16:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Miami who are five to six hundred, they're not even

1118
01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:17.960
<v Speaker 2>a quarter of this size.

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01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:23.359
<v Speaker 6>So this oak tree is seventeen foot in circumference. I

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01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:26.720
<v Speaker 6>was told that the Smithsonian did a core sample in

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01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:30.359
<v Speaker 6>the seventies and they said it was somewhere around five

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01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:34.800
<v Speaker 6>to six hundred years old before my time, obviously.

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01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:39.439
<v Speaker 2>And those were dated by the Smithsonian themselves, which we

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01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:42.920
<v Speaker 2>really have something special here. All right.

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01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:46.359
<v Speaker 5>I'm Eli Dickerson here. I'm a volunteer with American Forest

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01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:48.039
<v Speaker 5>and American Forces.

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01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Measuring the girth of this tree here. It's one of

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01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the girthliest I've ever done seen.

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01:16:55.520 --> 01:16:59.199
<v Speaker 2>We're here with We're here with American girth hunters. My

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01:16:59.319 --> 01:17:10.720
<v Speaker 2>name's Eli. Oh all right, we love you, Eli. Just kidding.

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01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:13.079
<v Speaker 1>That's enough. That's let's get serious. We're talking about the

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01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:20.600
<v Speaker 1>garden of ending here in the all right, okay, interesting video.

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01:17:21.319 --> 01:17:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, that that thing is matt Where is that

1134
01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:24.319
<v Speaker 1>in Georgia?

1135
01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Just over the Florida state line in the very very

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01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:35.079
<v Speaker 2>southeast corner near Iron City, Georgia.

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01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:39.800
<v Speaker 1>So in the area the f a g border.

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01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Yep, exact literally Garden of Eden area. Callaway says, there's

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01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:51.760
<v Speaker 2>four rivers there, Chattahoochee, the Fish Pond Creek, the Spring Creek,

1140
01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:57.800
<v Speaker 2>and the Flint River. That tree is smack dab in

1141
01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:01.159
<v Speaker 2>the middle of those four trees as four rivers.

1142
01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:06.439
<v Speaker 1>So one of the other trees, I don't know if

1143
01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:08.119
<v Speaker 1>this is a Canada or not. The one that we

1144
01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:15.800
<v Speaker 1>did over at the Flaggler house. What kind of tree

1145
01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:18.000
<v Speaker 1>with that was a baya bap tree? Right? Is that

1146
01:18:18.039 --> 01:18:20.199
<v Speaker 1>a Canada or is that not from here? Right? That's

1147
01:18:20.199 --> 01:18:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that was a transplanted tree.

1148
01:18:25.079 --> 01:18:29.199
<v Speaker 2>It's not a terrible candidate, but I don't think it's

1149
01:18:29.239 --> 01:18:36.880
<v Speaker 2>super convincing. So Kapok trees come from the Caribbean. You know,

1150
01:18:36.920 --> 01:18:42.359
<v Speaker 2>they're mostly I think in Mexico, like the Yucatan, Puerto Rico.

1151
01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:47.920
<v Speaker 2>They are one of the principal trees of the Maya

1152
01:18:48.079 --> 01:18:52.479
<v Speaker 2>and the Aztec, so they must be spread over a

1153
01:18:52.479 --> 01:18:58.199
<v Speaker 2>fair amount in Mexico. Flagler brought this one to Florida,

1154
01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:01.600
<v Speaker 2>but there could have been some in Florida. You know,

1155
01:19:01.640 --> 01:19:05.680
<v Speaker 2>it's not outside the Roman possibility that one was growing

1156
01:19:05.720 --> 01:19:11.479
<v Speaker 2>on its own before Columbus came here. The Tyanos were

1157
01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:16.359
<v Speaker 2>taking the Tyanos, the arrow Act were taking, you know,

1158
01:19:16.479 --> 01:19:21.880
<v Speaker 2>canoes back and forth from the Bahamas Puerto Rico, Florida.

1159
01:19:23.720 --> 01:19:26.640
<v Speaker 2>And you know you can get You can go from

1160
01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Bimini to Florida in a kayak in fifteen hours. Do

1161
01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:32.000
<v Speaker 2>you know that?

1162
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Good luck? Yeah, I'm sure you can't. It can be done.

1163
01:19:37.359 --> 01:19:39.560
<v Speaker 1>But how are you going to carry your massive balls

1164
01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:43.600
<v Speaker 1>on that kayak? Bro? Because that would that'd be a

1165
01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:45.880
<v Speaker 1>scary ride. It's scary on a regular boat or a

1166
01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:46.439
<v Speaker 1>jet ski.

1167
01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:51.199
<v Speaker 2>Imagine fucking girls and paddle boards. Do it be fine?

1168
01:19:51.960 --> 01:19:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Fifteen hours? Brok? Fifteen hours? Look at long Ago, Bro,

1169
01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:02.079
<v Speaker 1>everywhere he goes. Guess who's taking his video? Do I

1170
01:20:02.119 --> 01:20:03.960
<v Speaker 1>come out in here? Did I? Did I do a?

1171
01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:08.039
<v Speaker 1>Guess who the cameraman is in this video? No?

1172
01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:10.159
<v Speaker 2>You were shivering behind the camera?

1173
01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Is well? I think isn't Epstein's house by here?

1174
01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? We stopped. We stopped there for drinks after this.

1175
01:20:20.840 --> 01:20:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Remember, no, I don't come out in this video. That's crazy,

1176
01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:32.039
<v Speaker 1>But yes I am the cameraman. This camera work here? Anyways?

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01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:41.640
<v Speaker 1>What are other the the Florida State tree, the cabbage palm?

1178
01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not a bad option. And then we can

1179
01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:50.359
<v Speaker 2>get into the Indians. The Indians used to make whoa

1180
01:20:50.880 --> 01:21:00.359
<v Speaker 2>clothes sheltered food out of the pallmeadow, the cabbage or

1181
01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the saw palmetto mm hmmm, sable palm.

1182
01:21:10.920 --> 01:21:16.560
<v Speaker 1>So the palm tree. Right. One of the interesting things

1183
01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:22.000
<v Speaker 1>is that in some interpretations, you know, we've all seen

1184
01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:24.359
<v Speaker 1>this picture. Here, let me find it. Where did I

1185
01:21:24.399 --> 01:21:24.800
<v Speaker 1>put it?

1186
01:21:27.920 --> 01:21:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Man, this dive deep on the palm tree.

1187
01:21:31.359 --> 01:21:34.439
<v Speaker 1>Let me find the damn I just had a freaking

1188
01:21:34.520 --> 01:21:39.279
<v Speaker 1>picture of it. Hold up, anyways, here, let me find

1189
01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:45.600
<v Speaker 1>on the presentation. Uh, I can remember where was that? Okay,

1190
01:21:48.520 --> 01:21:53.039
<v Speaker 1>So we've all seen different interpretations of right, this is

1191
01:21:53.239 --> 01:21:58.880
<v Speaker 1>as far back, you know, thousands of years. And one

1192
01:21:58.920 --> 01:22:02.840
<v Speaker 1>of the interesting things is that they show the tree

1193
01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:06.439
<v Speaker 1>of knowledge of good and evil as a palm tree,

1194
01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:10.920
<v Speaker 1>and that the fruit was actually a date fruit. And

1195
01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the date palm is one of the oldest palm trees,

1196
01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:22.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, and essentially they're pretty much immortal. And I'm

1197
01:22:22.479 --> 01:22:24.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to find the picture where they have the little pouches.

1198
01:22:26.039 --> 01:22:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me find it here. We've all seen

1199
01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:33.399
<v Speaker 1>the little pouch. Everyone asks, like, you know, what's in

1200
01:22:33.439 --> 01:22:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the bag sort of thing, and they're picking the fruit

1201
01:22:39.680 --> 01:22:48.600
<v Speaker 1>from the date palm. Right. So under the Codahamarabi day

1202
01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:51.039
<v Speaker 1>growing share croping, the sale and cutting of palms were

1203
01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:54.039
<v Speaker 1>subject to official regulation. So this goes back, you know,

1204
01:22:54.199 --> 01:22:56.479
<v Speaker 1>hundreds and thousands of years. I'm trying to find the

1205
01:22:56.520 --> 01:23:02.640
<v Speaker 1>damn picture, bro. I can't find it anyways. Point being

1206
01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:08.840
<v Speaker 1>that the date palm is sometimes interpreted as and I

1207
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:12.479
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's a good candidate. What is in Florida?

1208
01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:19.279
<v Speaker 1>We have different places named palm right, Palm Beach, Palm

1209
01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:25.760
<v Speaker 1>beach gardens, Palm City, Palm Coast, and there are I

1210
01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:29.880
<v Speaker 1>believe when I looked this up it was palm trees

1211
01:23:29.920 --> 01:23:33.880
<v Speaker 1>and he heraldry, and there's about one hundred and seventy five.

1212
01:23:34.039 --> 01:23:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rico has a palm tree. The city of Miami

1213
01:23:37.399 --> 01:23:41.039
<v Speaker 1>has a palm tree. There's a bunch of different flags

1214
01:23:41.039 --> 01:23:45.079
<v Speaker 1>that have the palm in it. The Florida seal.

1215
01:23:45.079 --> 01:23:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Nine to eleven backwards. Do what I said nine to

1216
01:23:49.520 --> 01:23:52.399
<v Speaker 2>eleven upside out? Oh yeah, backwards? Yeah, one hundred and

1217
01:23:52.439 --> 01:23:56.760
<v Speaker 2>nineteen palm trees have been kicked out of one hundred

1218
01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and nineteen state insignia.

1219
01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:06.479
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm trying to find the damn uh, let me

1220
01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:13.920
<v Speaker 1>find it, hear mess so messo Potamia, tree of life.

1221
01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:19.199
<v Speaker 1>We've all seen it, and here it is. I found it.

1222
01:24:20.399 --> 01:24:24.880
<v Speaker 1>So this particular picture, right, yeah, everyone always talks about like, oh,

1223
01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:28.720
<v Speaker 1>what's in the what's in the in the bag, what's

1224
01:24:28.800 --> 01:24:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the what's this all about? The little the little pouch?

1225
01:24:32.199 --> 01:24:35.039
<v Speaker 1>What's in there? What do they have? And this is

1226
01:24:35.079 --> 01:24:38.960
<v Speaker 1>actually a depiction of a palm tree. And in other

1227
01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:42.119
<v Speaker 1>depictions they show them putting the pine cone, which, if

1228
01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:44.359
<v Speaker 1>you think about it, what happened when they ate from

1229
01:24:44.399 --> 01:24:47.439
<v Speaker 1>the tree of knowledge of good and evil? They became

1230
01:24:47.520 --> 01:24:52.720
<v Speaker 1>what they they entered another state of consciousness. They learned

1231
01:24:53.319 --> 01:24:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that they were naked, they learned that they you know,

1232
01:24:55.680 --> 01:25:00.680
<v Speaker 1>they became ashamed. And the pine cone is another thing

1233
01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:05.560
<v Speaker 1>where it's been uh depicted as a sort of like

1234
01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:08.199
<v Speaker 1>the pineal gland. Well, if you look at a date fruit,

1235
01:25:08.359 --> 01:25:11.079
<v Speaker 1>it kind of looks like a little right, it's kind

1236
01:25:11.119 --> 01:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of cone shape. You can interpret that as that and

1237
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the conspiracies that you know, they was

1238
01:25:17.520 --> 01:25:19.479
<v Speaker 1>talking like, oh, what are these guys doing here? What

1239
01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:21.880
<v Speaker 1>are they what are they picking here? It's a pine cone?

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<v Speaker 1>It might be a date fruit. Right, a little a

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01:25:24.319 --> 01:25:27.439
<v Speaker 1>little bunch of little dates that they're just putting in

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01:25:27.479 --> 01:25:31.760
<v Speaker 1>their bag. It could also be symbolic, right that the

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<v Speaker 1>date fruit could be consciousness of the altering of it,

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01:25:35.960 --> 01:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me let me translate this for you, Juan, Okay,

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01:25:40.479 --> 01:25:45.039
<v Speaker 2>this is clearly an ancient Mesopotamian depiction of some gay

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01:25:45.079 --> 01:25:47.039
<v Speaker 2>guys from Palm Beach versus.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, is it a palm beach pete? Is that his name?

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01:25:52.199 --> 01:25:55.039
<v Speaker 2>It's palm Beach peteed.

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01:25:55.279 --> 01:25:59.039
<v Speaker 1>We got them boys, We got them Palm beach peet again,

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01:25:59.119 --> 01:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>palm pre palm trees, the Iluma palm trees.

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01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I saw a palm beach peet in my car last week.

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01:26:07.640 --> 01:26:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I told us, all right, we should get

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01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>him on the show next time I'm down there. Get

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01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:14.760
<v Speaker 1>him into the store, and that'd be an interesting So

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01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:20.159
<v Speaker 1>you look like one of the biggest PDF files of

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01:26:20.199 --> 01:26:23.000
<v Speaker 1>all time. How does that make you feel, that you're

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01:26:23.039 --> 01:26:27.039
<v Speaker 1>on this rip around Florida or all these news stations

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01:26:27.039 --> 01:26:29.600
<v Speaker 1>that it was that he looks like him. I'd stay

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01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:33.680
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent, one hundred feet away from that. So

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<v Speaker 1>a right in the Bible, the right to shell flourish

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01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:41.199
<v Speaker 1>liked the palm tree. So I'm ninety two twelve and

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<v Speaker 1>then it was interesting because I found this picture of

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01:26:43.239 --> 01:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a templar and of course had the palm trees in

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01:26:48.039 --> 01:26:52.079
<v Speaker 1>the back because I think so a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a spoiler. I don't want to spoil it. I don't

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01:26:56.239 --> 01:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>want to spoil it, but I think it's got to

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01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:04.119
<v Speaker 1>do with ancient bloodline and it goes way back through

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01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:09.039
<v Speaker 1>time and let me find something else here. So it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So the date palm right referred to as the phoenix daktaalifera,

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01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's got right. You have the phoenix born from

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01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:24.319
<v Speaker 1>rising from the ashes. And it's interesting because they have

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01:27:24.359 --> 01:27:27.479
<v Speaker 1>a history, one of the oldest cultivated tree crops with

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01:27:27.520 --> 01:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the history of over five thousand years old. And check

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01:27:30.680 --> 01:27:35.199
<v Speaker 1>this out, right, you have the crown. The crown ranges

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01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:41.199
<v Speaker 1>from six to ten meters or twenty to thirty three feet. Right,

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01:27:41.319 --> 01:27:44.880
<v Speaker 1>we got that thirty three number in there, and they

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01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:48.239
<v Speaker 1>make a bunch of different things with it. Right, you

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01:27:48.279 --> 01:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>can the date. It's super good for you. You can make syrup, alcohol, vinegar.

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01:27:55.880 --> 01:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>The seeds, the wood, the leaves, and they're used for

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01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of different things. So it would make

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01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:04.880
<v Speaker 1>sense that how you were mentioning earlier about the trees

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01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:08.920
<v Speaker 1>providing life, providing shelter, et cetera, et cetera. The date

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01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:13.119
<v Speaker 1>palm is one of the perfect candidates that would provide

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01:28:13.640 --> 01:28:16.239
<v Speaker 1>you with fruit, and then you can also use that

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01:28:16.359 --> 01:28:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to make other things with it. It has medicinal uses, right,

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01:28:22.960 --> 01:28:28.079
<v Speaker 1>use it as a cleanser. It can be used for

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01:28:28.239 --> 01:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>sore throats, colds, fevers, so it even treats diarrhea and

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01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:41.319
<v Speaker 1>urinary ailments. But yeah, I mean it, yeah, it could

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<v Speaker 1>be thirty. I just thought it was interesting. This is

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<v Speaker 1>some Wikipedia stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, they can use the seeds for the seeds are

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01:28:52.960 --> 01:28:56.119
<v Speaker 1>used burned to make charcoal, right, so it's got a

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01:28:56.199 --> 01:28:58.159
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of different things that it can be used for.

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<v Speaker 2>And the also when they say honey in the Bible

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times, that's actually date syrup.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Dates are mentioned more than fifty times in the Bible,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty times in the Qoran, and obviously they hold great

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01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>significance in Abrahamic religions. The date palm leaves are used

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01:29:26.960 --> 01:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>for what for palm Sunday and Christian religion and many

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01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Jewish scholars believe that the honey reference in Exodus chapter three,

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01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:37.439
<v Speaker 1>the land of flowing with milk and honey, is actually

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01:29:37.479 --> 01:29:40.319
<v Speaker 1>the well you just said that the date honey and

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01:29:40.359 --> 01:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>not honey from bees. So in the tour, the palm

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01:29:43.520 --> 01:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>trees are reference as symbols of prosperity and triumph. Date

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01:29:48.840 --> 01:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>palms are one of the seven species of negative Israelite

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01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>plants revered in Judaism, and the Koran Allah instructs Maryam

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01:29:59.079 --> 01:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to eat dates ring labor pains when she gives birth

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01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:06.079
<v Speaker 1>to Jesus. So again it's just over and over again,

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01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:12.399
<v Speaker 1>and then I get even you know a lot of

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01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the It was interesting because when I was making this presentation,

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01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I was actually in Georgia, and on my feed, one

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01:30:27.279 --> 01:30:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of the things that they found when they had unearthed

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01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the I said, too in common I think it was

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01:30:34.720 --> 01:30:39.039
<v Speaker 1>his uh, his name the Pharaoh. Where they opened up

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01:30:39.079 --> 01:30:45.359
<v Speaker 1>the touton common commun they had found dates, right, they

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01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:49.159
<v Speaker 1>preserve breads, figs, dates, grapes, honey, wine and plenty of meat.

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01:30:49.760 --> 01:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>And I actually ended up I was in Georgia at

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01:30:51.920 --> 01:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>the time, right fag fag border, and I ended up

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01:30:56.920 --> 01:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>coming across this tracking tuton common exhibit and this is

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01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>this is actually my son. These are pictures of me

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01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>there where. These are all different, they're not real, they're

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01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>like props. But they set up like this whole museum

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01:31:14.600 --> 01:31:17.399
<v Speaker 1>and they do like a guided tour and everything of

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01:31:17.439 --> 01:31:20.319
<v Speaker 1>all these things. And this was like three or three

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01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>years ago now and they had like a like an

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01:31:22.920 --> 01:31:26.319
<v Speaker 1>audio guided tour. But it all started with the research

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01:31:26.399 --> 01:31:30.439
<v Speaker 1>into the date, which they found some that were preserved

1331
01:31:31.239 --> 01:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>with him, and I get into the ecronomicon and a

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01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:37.479
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of other stuff. But I want to talk

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01:31:37.520 --> 01:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>about the second. Yeah, the palm tree. Let's talk about

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01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the We mentioned the Masons earlier, and there's actually a

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01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:59.239
<v Speaker 1>masonry sect of here's another templar. The Nights Templar were

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01:31:59.239 --> 01:32:02.119
<v Speaker 1>set to have developed a brewer concoction of palm wine

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01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:05.359
<v Speaker 1>alo vera pulp and hemp and alig sir they called

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01:32:05.359 --> 01:32:08.079
<v Speaker 1>the Elixir of Jerusalem, into which they attributed their health,

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01:32:08.439 --> 01:32:11.479
<v Speaker 1>strength and longevity. The Night Temple were said to have

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01:32:11.520 --> 01:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>developed a brew or why I put this uh twice,

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01:32:14.920 --> 01:32:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I guess. So the templars.

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<v Speaker 2>If you notice palm trees almost like an anagram of templar. Yes,

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01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:27.439
<v Speaker 2>not the same amount of letters, but the same yeah

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01:32:27.920 --> 01:32:28.920
<v Speaker 2>letters being used.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep, exactly exactly, and let me find it here.

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01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:42.439
<v Speaker 1>There was a So another another thing that I came across, right,

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01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:46.359
<v Speaker 1>talk about the Garden of Eden and everything else in

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01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:54.319
<v Speaker 1>certain iterations. The leftover clay that was used to make

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01:32:54.439 --> 01:32:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Adam Ah after the creation of Adam and his sister,

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01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the palm tree, was created from the leftover place. So

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01:33:01.960 --> 01:33:04.600
<v Speaker 1>the world, which he calls the Earth of reality, was

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01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:06.880
<v Speaker 1>made from the sesame seed sized piece of clay that

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01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:09.239
<v Speaker 1>was left over after the creation of Adam and his

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01:33:09.359 --> 01:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>sister the palm tree. Right, this image of the palm

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01:33:13.680 --> 01:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>tree is based on the well known Headeth where the

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01:33:15.600 --> 01:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>prophet procrams honor your paternal aunt, the palm tree, for

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01:33:20.079 --> 01:33:23.680
<v Speaker 1>she was created from the remainder of clay of your

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01:33:23.720 --> 01:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>father Adam. So the sister of Adam and some and

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<v Speaker 1>I believe this is Sufism, is connected to the palm tree.

1360
01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:38.039
<v Speaker 1>So again, this is why I believe it's connected to

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01:33:38.199 --> 01:33:43.359
<v Speaker 1>the Holy Grail and maybe a certain bloodline, right, this

1362
01:33:43.560 --> 01:33:47.760
<v Speaker 1>palm tree bloodline. Again, this is a this is all speculation, Okay,

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01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>this is all speculation. I'm gonna be doing a whole

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01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>there's one hundred and twenty four slides here. Okay, so

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01:33:54.760 --> 01:33:56.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be doing a whole thing on this. I'm

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01:33:56.359 --> 01:33:59.119
<v Speaker 1>just jumping around a little bit to find the uh

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01:34:00.279 --> 01:34:05.479
<v Speaker 1>some palm tree references. And so there's actually a here.

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<v Speaker 1>We are a free Masonic tracing boards as well that

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01:34:11.239 --> 01:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>have what that have palm trees. You can kind of

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01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:21.279
<v Speaker 1>interpret these pillars as palm trees as well. And one

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01:34:21.319 --> 01:34:27.600
<v Speaker 1>of the things that this is Philip K. Dick. We

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01:34:27.640 --> 01:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>find the free Masonic sect that has the the one

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01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:31.840
<v Speaker 1>that I told you about that there were like be

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01:34:31.920 --> 01:34:35.560
<v Speaker 1>a wreck like a palm tree. Yeah, I'm trying to

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01:34:35.600 --> 01:34:44.319
<v Speaker 1>find that sline. It's called the let me find it here,

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01:34:45.359 --> 01:34:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Please bear with me. So this is a free Masonic Bible, right,

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01:34:52.199 --> 01:34:54.039
<v Speaker 1>and it's got a palm tree in the back there.

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01:34:57.239 --> 01:35:02.439
<v Speaker 1>You know. I'm trying to find the the order of

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01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:09.199
<v Speaker 1>the shell and the palm on the shell. There you go.

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01:35:10.239 --> 01:35:17.079
<v Speaker 1>So I link this to the access Monday you have

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01:35:17.600 --> 01:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and these are all free Masonic illustrations, right, and you

1382
01:35:24.039 --> 01:35:27.479
<v Speaker 1>have the palm tree in the middle of it all.

1383
01:35:28.359 --> 01:35:31.960
<v Speaker 1>And there was this certain sect of Freemasonry called the

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01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Palm and Shell and linguistics is concerned with the nature

1385
01:35:39.159 --> 01:35:42.079
<v Speaker 1>of language and communication. This context, we desire to illustrate

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01:35:42.439 --> 01:35:45.399
<v Speaker 1>or communicate certain information related to the use of the

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01:35:45.439 --> 01:35:48.119
<v Speaker 1>palm as an emblem in freemasonry, and I was taking

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01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:52.560
<v Speaker 1>this from a free Masonic site. The palm tree, known

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01:35:52.640 --> 01:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>as tamar and Hebrew language is used to mean to

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01:35:55.800 --> 01:36:00.840
<v Speaker 1>be erect a palm tree, and Psalms twelve, we find

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01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the righteous out flourished like the palm tree. Tomorrow he

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01:36:05.159 --> 01:36:08.720
<v Speaker 1>shall grow like a cedar in Lebanon. The palm tree,

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01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:12.119
<v Speaker 1>an emblem of less prominent and freemasonry, could be viewed

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01:36:12.119 --> 01:36:17.439
<v Speaker 1>as having been hidden in plain sight, particularly as evidenced

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01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:20.359
<v Speaker 1>by this picture in our Blue Lodge textbook thirtieth edition.

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01:36:20.439 --> 01:36:26.079
<v Speaker 1>So you have this again, shifting the obscuring the view

1397
01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>of like it's always been there, you just have never

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01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:33.760
<v Speaker 1>noticed that it's there. What's one of the most famous

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01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:38.439
<v Speaker 1>pictures in California. Bro, They were freaking out recently because

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01:36:39.720 --> 01:36:46.199
<v Speaker 1>the palm trees that line that boulevard were actually dying, right, Yeah,

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01:36:46.239 --> 01:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and they what do they call that place?

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01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:51.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean Hollywood Boulevard, Beverly Hills.

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01:36:51.720 --> 01:36:55.399
<v Speaker 1>Uh, what's the name of the place. The tree line yeah,

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01:36:55.479 --> 01:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>windsor oh windsor I mean everybody you've seen this. Everybody's

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01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>seen and it's you know, one of the everyone's seen

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01:37:04.600 --> 01:37:06.359
<v Speaker 1>the pictures of the palm trees. And there was a

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01:37:06.399 --> 01:37:10.319
<v Speaker 1>report not too long ago that the palm tree, which

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01:37:10.359 --> 01:37:14.159
<v Speaker 1>the palm tree is actually right, if we're talking about

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01:37:14.159 --> 01:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>a tree that goes back in time since the beginning

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01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>of time, palm trees, there's been studies that have shown

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01:37:20.319 --> 01:37:24.880
<v Speaker 1>that they're actually immortal. Some palm trees are imortal because

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01:37:24.880 --> 01:37:27.479
<v Speaker 1>they're not it's not like an actual tree, like a

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01:37:27.520 --> 01:37:29.199
<v Speaker 1>regular tree, like you have an oak tree where it's

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01:37:29.239 --> 01:37:31.199
<v Speaker 1>got you know, the different bark. It's like it's almost

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01:37:31.239 --> 01:37:34.520
<v Speaker 1>hollow on the inside, right, And that's why it's so limber,

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01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and that's why I can survive in Florida and take

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01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:40.159
<v Speaker 1>the winds and everything. And when you think of a paradise,

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01:37:40.640 --> 01:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>what do you think of you think of a palm tree,

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01:37:44.119 --> 01:37:47.479
<v Speaker 1>like a little island on a palm tree. Right, Yeah,

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01:37:47.520 --> 01:37:48.479
<v Speaker 1>what do you have.

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01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Real quick? Can you search vapor wave?

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01:37:54.279 --> 01:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Vapor wave?

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01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we can get to that. Yeah, it kind of

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01:37:56.960 --> 01:38:00.359
<v Speaker 2>ties into the Epstein temple. Good a vapor wave this

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01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:08.920
<v Speaker 2>video Wikipedia. Yeah, so I've talked about this a little bit. Yeah, yeah,

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01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:11.560
<v Speaker 2>it is kind of ridiculous, but it is rooted in

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01:38:12.079 --> 01:38:15.039
<v Speaker 2>truth and it's an interesting angle.

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01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Is this story one? Yeah?

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01:38:18.119 --> 01:38:22.319
<v Speaker 2>This is right. So when we're talking about the Garden

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01:38:22.319 --> 01:38:27.439
<v Speaker 2>of Eden in Florida, keep going that that right there,

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01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:29.800
<v Speaker 2>that's a perfect that's a good example of apor wave.

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01:38:31.800 --> 01:38:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Is this meant to symbolize what I think it symbolizes?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what is it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can interpret this as nine to eleven, the two

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01:38:40.600 --> 01:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>towers and the two.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit. Yeah, maybe keep going, keep putting.

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01:38:49.760 --> 01:38:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Through them some gooner stuff, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. Yeah, so I've made, you know, the argument

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01:38:58.560 --> 01:39:04.520
<v Speaker 2>that just real quick, gopher Wood is don't fucking retarded. Sorry,

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01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:05.319
<v Speaker 2>I've got my mouthful.

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01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:08.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, just how just how you like it?

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01:39:09.359 --> 01:39:16.439
<v Speaker 2>All right? Vapor wave is it was like a phenomena where,

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01:39:22.199 --> 01:39:24.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, all these people started making this art and

1444
01:39:24.560 --> 01:39:31.600
<v Speaker 2>this music that had this style that it's vaguely tropical.

1445
01:39:32.840 --> 01:39:36.399
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of Florida like, it's insinuated that it's Florida,

1446
01:39:37.159 --> 01:39:43.479
<v Speaker 2>not California. Has like a Caribbean tropical ocean Miami Vice

1447
01:39:45.159 --> 01:39:51.479
<v Speaker 2>eighties digital kind of look to it, pixelated and vapor wave.

1448
01:39:53.399 --> 01:39:55.239
<v Speaker 2>What people are kind of what people were kind of

1449
01:39:55.279 --> 01:39:57.920
<v Speaker 2>talking about is why is it so relaxing? Why is

1450
01:39:57.960 --> 01:40:03.279
<v Speaker 2>it so inviting? Why why are people so captivated by it?

1451
01:40:03.479 --> 01:40:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Same thing with like Miami Vice, you know, it put

1452
01:40:06.279 --> 01:40:07.680
<v Speaker 2>people almost in a trance.

1453
01:40:07.840 --> 01:40:12.600
<v Speaker 1>They a lot of palm trees, huh.

1454
01:40:11.960 --> 01:40:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Yep, tons of palm trees, dolphins, So that's another thing.

1455
01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:18.279
<v Speaker 2>It's it's like uniquely Florida codd Now.

1456
01:40:18.279 --> 01:40:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Are you free Masonic here?

1457
01:40:19.720 --> 01:40:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Lot yep, lots of Masonic elements. It kind of looked

1458
01:40:23.239 --> 01:40:27.680
<v Speaker 2>like those Masonic you know, pieces of art you're showing

1459
01:40:27.960 --> 01:40:31.279
<v Speaker 2>what do they call them? Drafting tables, tracing boards, Yeah,

1460
01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:36.960
<v Speaker 2>tracing boards, and you'll always see like the grid, like

1461
01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:44.319
<v Speaker 2>like the gnostic uh, like like demi Urge matrix grid,

1462
01:40:45.359 --> 01:40:50.760
<v Speaker 2>the checkered floors, this or that, like everything's on the chessboard.

1463
01:40:51.119 --> 01:40:54.640
<v Speaker 2>But also like aquatics, so it's kind of like the

1464
01:40:54.680 --> 01:40:57.640
<v Speaker 2>sunken ruins of Atlantis a lot of times come up

1465
01:40:57.720 --> 01:41:01.199
<v Speaker 2>and then the pillars two pillars, and then palm trees

1466
01:41:01.239 --> 01:41:06.640
<v Speaker 2>are like an ever present motif. And so vapor wave

1467
01:41:06.720 --> 01:41:09.039
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of what I call more like synth wave

1468
01:41:09.279 --> 01:41:14.640
<v Speaker 2>or like neo noir more like the cars and stuff.

1469
01:41:14.640 --> 01:41:20.359
<v Speaker 2>But the true vapor wave is like Florida elements stripped

1470
01:41:20.399 --> 01:41:25.359
<v Speaker 2>down to their core, just kind of like lodgepodged onto

1471
01:41:25.479 --> 01:41:34.880
<v Speaker 2>one image. And I've made the argument that the vapor

1472
01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:41.199
<v Speaker 2>wave phenomenon could be explained by the Garden of Eden

1473
01:41:41.279 --> 01:41:46.159
<v Speaker 2>and Florida theory. There's a chance that Florida, the memory

1474
01:41:46.199 --> 01:41:52.479
<v Speaker 2>of Florida, occupies the mind, or inhabits some part of

1475
01:41:52.520 --> 01:41:58.119
<v Speaker 2>the human mind, the distant mind, the subconscious, and we

1476
01:41:58.199 --> 01:42:02.359
<v Speaker 2>all have this vague memory of Florida. You know, these

1477
01:42:02.560 --> 01:42:07.279
<v Speaker 2>almost like Adam and even Florida, the palm trees, the

1478
01:42:07.319 --> 01:42:13.840
<v Speaker 2>flat land, the programming of reality kind of all tied in.

1479
01:42:14.520 --> 01:42:17.279
<v Speaker 2>So it's you know, that's not the most well thought

1480
01:42:17.279 --> 01:42:21.399
<v Speaker 2>out idea I've ever had, but there's something to it.

1481
01:42:22.760 --> 01:42:26.039
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it looks like the fucking Epstein. Some of

1482
01:42:26.079 --> 01:42:27.760
<v Speaker 2>it looks like the Epstein Island.

1483
01:42:27.720 --> 01:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Which again, if you look at this right, what an

1484
01:42:30.600 --> 01:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>interesting piece of architecture, and the why would anybody build this?

1485
01:42:41.159 --> 01:42:44.399
<v Speaker 1>And this right, all these different lines, and it's like, again,

1486
01:42:44.479 --> 01:42:47.039
<v Speaker 1>this seems like it was used for a ritual. You

1487
01:42:47.159 --> 01:42:50.199
<v Speaker 1>trace these like the sufis, you know, the sufis that

1488
01:42:50.600 --> 01:42:54.600
<v Speaker 1>spin around and they enter altered states of consciousness from

1489
01:42:54.600 --> 01:42:58.399
<v Speaker 1>the spinning You ever seen the spinning dervishes where they

1490
01:42:58.439 --> 01:43:01.840
<v Speaker 1>just spin for hours and hours and hours, and they

1491
01:43:02.119 --> 01:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>enter an altered state of consciousness where they're just flowing.

1492
01:43:06.760 --> 01:43:09.479
<v Speaker 1>And I think that these lines are used for that,

1493
01:43:09.680 --> 01:43:13.039
<v Speaker 1>just walking back and forth over and over and over

1494
01:43:13.159 --> 01:43:16.920
<v Speaker 1>again and to enter another state of consciousness.

1495
01:43:17.960 --> 01:43:24.119
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, well the labyrinth played a yes, significant role

1496
01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:30.680
<v Speaker 2>in initiatory rights and stuff like that throughout history many cultures.

1497
01:43:30.880 --> 01:43:34.239
<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that right part of freemasonry

1498
01:43:34.359 --> 01:43:39.039
<v Speaker 1>is angles angels. And one of the one of my

1499
01:43:39.119 --> 01:43:42.720
<v Speaker 1>favorite concepts ever that I've talked about before is the

1500
01:43:42.760 --> 01:43:48.720
<v Speaker 1>concept of Pythagorean palaces where there were certain and this

1501
01:43:48.880 --> 01:43:52.359
<v Speaker 1>is taught you know, towards the Renaissance around there. There's

1502
01:43:52.439 --> 01:43:55.680
<v Speaker 1>a reason why all these palaces were built the way

1503
01:43:55.720 --> 01:43:58.119
<v Speaker 1>that they were built, right, they were chasing that golden

1504
01:43:58.239 --> 01:44:02.720
<v Speaker 1>ratio right where you know, for the Tagoians, God was

1505
01:44:02.760 --> 01:44:07.479
<v Speaker 1>a number, right, they worship numbers, and you know, towards

1506
01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:11.319
<v Speaker 1>the Renaissance era they believe that if you built a

1507
01:44:13.319 --> 01:44:18.039
<v Speaker 1>building or a palace to certain geometrical proportions, which geometry

1508
01:44:18.079 --> 01:44:21.560
<v Speaker 1>is part of freemasonry, right, that they could if they

1509
01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:25.760
<v Speaker 1>built it to certain geometrical proportions, the perfect proportions, they

1510
01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:30.079
<v Speaker 1>could elevate the consciousness within those whoever was in that building,

1511
01:44:30.079 --> 01:44:32.159
<v Speaker 1>they could elevate the consciousness of the people within it.

1512
01:44:32.399 --> 01:44:34.800
<v Speaker 1>So that's why Freemasonic lodges are built the way that

1513
01:44:34.840 --> 01:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>they're built. That's why a lot of a lot of

1514
01:44:36.680 --> 01:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>temples are built the way that they're built because and

1515
01:44:39.039 --> 01:44:41.319
<v Speaker 1>if you look at like old temples over in the

1516
01:44:41.359 --> 01:44:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Middle East that have the mondolas on the ceilings, that's

1517
01:44:45.039 --> 01:44:49.279
<v Speaker 1>for people to again look at and enter altered states

1518
01:44:49.319 --> 01:44:53.279
<v Speaker 1>of consciousness. If you're tripping your ass off on some

1519
01:44:53.399 --> 01:44:55.439
<v Speaker 1>psychedelic and you look up at one of those scenes,

1520
01:44:55.439 --> 01:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>that's a mondola, right, you're being transported somewhere else. And

1521
01:44:59.720 --> 01:45:02.159
<v Speaker 1>I think that this concept of Pythegoroa and Palace is

1522
01:45:02.520 --> 01:45:06.239
<v Speaker 1>you can take it and you can expand it further

1523
01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:09.359
<v Speaker 1>to build a city or a town or anywhere else

1524
01:45:09.399 --> 01:45:12.000
<v Speaker 1>a bigger thing. And what if that's what Atlantis was,

1525
01:45:12.239 --> 01:45:15.720
<v Speaker 1>where they built this beautiful architecture and they built up

1526
01:45:15.760 --> 01:45:19.479
<v Speaker 1>the city to such a perfect geometric proportion that they

1527
01:45:19.640 --> 01:45:22.840
<v Speaker 1>elevated the consciousness of everybody there because that's what Atlantis

1528
01:45:22.880 --> 01:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>is all about, right, which is connected to Florida too.

1529
01:45:25.000 --> 01:45:26.560
<v Speaker 1>You have the Bomeny Road and everything else.

1530
01:45:28.439 --> 01:45:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Listen, you want to I just thought of something real quick.

1531
01:45:31.159 --> 01:45:33.920
<v Speaker 2>You want to hear it? Yeah, okay, remember we almost

1532
01:45:33.960 --> 01:45:39.159
<v Speaker 2>did a show about Tomorrowland. Yes, okay, and bear with me.

1533
01:45:40.039 --> 01:45:42.479
<v Speaker 2>What did they say that palm is a Hebrew.

1534
01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:46.319
<v Speaker 1>To tomorrow to be erect.

1535
01:45:45.720 --> 01:45:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow tomorrowland tomorrow tomorrow. Maybe nothing, maybe something? But what

1536
01:45:56.239 --> 01:45:59.720
<v Speaker 2>is Tomorrowland about? It is about the mind palace, like

1537
01:45:59.760 --> 01:46:03.640
<v Speaker 2>the collective mind palace of these people who want to

1538
01:46:03.680 --> 01:46:05.439
<v Speaker 2>almost start like a breakaway.

1539
01:46:05.079 --> 01:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>No, but you know what they want to start it

1540
01:46:06.600 --> 01:46:09.520
<v Speaker 1>with with little kids with children.

1541
01:46:09.359 --> 01:46:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep. It's like the Disney Atlantis in the sky.

1542
01:46:13.479 --> 01:46:16.319
<v Speaker 1>It's the Disney wet dream bro. They have all these kids.

1543
01:46:16.319 --> 01:46:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh they're super brilliant. They're using their their elevating and

1544
01:46:19.840 --> 01:46:21.960
<v Speaker 1>they're doing all these inventions there. It's like it's a

1545
01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:26.279
<v Speaker 1>bunch of kids, which is super like the creepy.

1546
01:46:26.039 --> 01:46:28.079
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like the Pied Piper almost like they

1547
01:46:28.119 --> 01:46:29.600
<v Speaker 2>take the kids into another dimension.

1548
01:46:29.880 --> 01:46:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, quite literally. So this is the Knights of

1549
01:46:36.399 --> 01:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the Palm Tree initiation. Ritual and the word seccaton is

1550
01:46:41.119 --> 01:46:45.279
<v Speaker 1>the plural of suka meaning booth or tabernacle and Hebrew,

1551
01:46:45.279 --> 01:46:48.960
<v Speaker 1>which is a wall structured covered with planet material such

1552
01:46:49.039 --> 01:46:52.760
<v Speaker 1>as overgrowth or palm trees.

1553
01:46:53.359 --> 01:46:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so yeah, and that's what the Seminoles live in.

1554
01:46:56.520 --> 01:46:59.479
<v Speaker 2>Is pretty much sukoat. Yeah.

1555
01:46:59.560 --> 01:47:03.279
<v Speaker 1>And there's a what in Florida, there's a what you've

1556
01:47:03.359 --> 01:47:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I think you've been there. Now there's the Tabernacle.

1557
01:47:07.640 --> 01:47:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, a replica of the whole, like a

1558
01:47:13.880 --> 01:47:16.600
<v Speaker 2>temple complex in the desert.

1559
01:47:16.960 --> 01:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Where is this place at? What's it called again?

1560
01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:22.319
<v Speaker 2>It's in tarp And Springs, I think, or near there.

1561
01:47:25.560 --> 01:47:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Tarp And Springs. Yeah.

1562
01:47:27.840 --> 01:47:28.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1563
01:47:28.520 --> 01:47:32.159
<v Speaker 1>So the primary permanent exhibition in the state is the

1564
01:47:32.239 --> 01:47:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Leslie Haile Tabernacle in the Wilderness and Bible Museum located

1565
01:47:36.840 --> 01:47:38.319
<v Speaker 1>in tarp And Springs.

1566
01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:40.760
<v Speaker 2>So that shows we can't see that.

1567
01:47:40.920 --> 01:47:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna bring it down now. Nice you see

1568
01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:48.880
<v Speaker 1>if they have Okay, well, anyways, this is it.

1569
01:47:49.279 --> 01:47:51.199
<v Speaker 2>Don't watch the video. We don't want to get copyrighted.

1570
01:47:51.720 --> 01:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>So this is a replica of the Tabernacle, and you

1571
01:47:56.000 --> 01:48:00.600
<v Speaker 1>have the Park of the Covenant, like we know what

1572
01:48:00.680 --> 01:48:02.439
<v Speaker 1>did they use this for? They use this to what

1573
01:48:03.199 --> 01:48:07.079
<v Speaker 1>to communicate with God, right to God.

1574
01:48:07.960 --> 01:48:09.520
<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna say, that's crazy. I got to

1575
01:48:09.520 --> 01:48:10.880
<v Speaker 2>go visit there. I've never been there.

1576
01:48:11.439 --> 01:48:12.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we should go.

1577
01:48:12.960 --> 01:48:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Let's go, dude, let's do it.

1578
01:48:14.720 --> 01:48:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I think we should. Again, we're overdue for a meet up,

1579
01:48:18.600 --> 01:48:21.760
<v Speaker 1>so there's a few places we can get up. We

1580
01:48:21.800 --> 01:48:24.680
<v Speaker 1>can either go, say in Augustine or something. And so

1581
01:48:25.279 --> 01:48:30.319
<v Speaker 1>this Nights of the Palm Tree Initiation ritual, essentially they

1582
01:48:30.359 --> 01:48:32.840
<v Speaker 1>have they sent they sent the candidate, you know, to

1583
01:48:33.119 --> 01:48:36.960
<v Speaker 1>uh into this altered state to essentially travel through the

1584
01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:43.399
<v Speaker 1>desert and uh and think about it, pitching the tabernacle

1585
01:48:43.439 --> 01:48:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and inducting the candidate, pitching the right. Oh, you're you're

1586
01:48:48.279 --> 01:48:51.920
<v Speaker 1>so a wreck, bro, You're a wreck like a palm tree.

1587
01:48:52.159 --> 01:48:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh here, now this is probably a good point to segue.

1588
01:48:56.119 --> 01:49:02.119
<v Speaker 2>And you're right, pitching a tent, you know the sexual innumendo,

1589
01:49:02.439 --> 01:49:03.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, pitching a tent.

1590
01:49:04.439 --> 01:49:05.600
<v Speaker 1>You saw a wreck, bro.

1591
01:49:06.680 --> 01:49:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Now that brings us to something I've talked about a

1592
01:49:09.600 --> 01:49:16.760
<v Speaker 2>couple of times. Palm trees are like palm trees. But

1593
01:49:17.279 --> 01:49:20.560
<v Speaker 2>when we're playing with words, can we reinterpret the meaning

1594
01:49:20.760 --> 01:49:27.279
<v Speaker 2>palm palm tree? What tree fits in your palm, what trunk,

1595
01:49:27.520 --> 01:49:31.079
<v Speaker 2>what would cannot be? Not to be lude, not trying

1596
01:49:31.119 --> 01:49:34.439
<v Speaker 2>to be graphic or lude or not trying to pull

1597
01:49:34.439 --> 01:49:37.239
<v Speaker 2>a Robert Stepper. Here Truck talks about Dix the whole episode.

1598
01:49:38.119 --> 01:49:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Does he do that?

1599
01:49:39.720 --> 01:49:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

1600
01:49:39.920 --> 01:49:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh, the the five officers having assembled in a

1601
01:49:46.640 --> 01:49:51.319
<v Speaker 1>secure place together with all sir knights of the vicinage,

1602
01:49:51.359 --> 01:49:54.920
<v Speaker 1>an object representing the palm tree is set up in

1603
01:49:54.960 --> 01:49:58.840
<v Speaker 1>the midst and the apartment is prepared according to esoteric instruction,

1604
01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and the candidate is introduced. Yeah, they introduce you to

1605
01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:03.439
<v Speaker 1>a palm tree.

1606
01:50:03.479 --> 01:50:08.279
<v Speaker 2>All right, So you know the tree of life, the

1607
01:50:08.279 --> 01:50:10.760
<v Speaker 2>tree of knowledge of good and evil. There is kind

1608
01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:15.359
<v Speaker 2>of a conversation to be had about sexual activity that

1609
01:50:15.399 --> 01:50:22.159
<v Speaker 2>does not result in conception or you know, pregnancy. You

1610
01:50:22.840 --> 01:50:24.840
<v Speaker 2>one way to interpret the Tree of Life and the

1611
01:50:24.880 --> 01:50:27.399
<v Speaker 2>Tree of Knowledge of Good and evil, which I did

1612
01:50:27.399 --> 01:50:29.399
<v Speaker 2>not come up with. It's one of the most popular

1613
01:50:29.840 --> 01:50:38.039
<v Speaker 2>alternative explanations is sexuality. So the tree of life is

1614
01:50:38.159 --> 01:50:41.199
<v Speaker 2>like a family tree life, you know, having kids, being

1615
01:50:41.199 --> 01:50:44.199
<v Speaker 2>fruitful what the Bible tells us to do. And then

1616
01:50:44.359 --> 01:50:47.199
<v Speaker 2>the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil is kind

1617
01:50:47.239 --> 01:50:53.279
<v Speaker 2>of according to this theory. According to this interpretation, is

1618
01:50:53.479 --> 01:50:58.520
<v Speaker 2>all sexual activity that does not result in the conception

1619
01:50:59.439 --> 01:51:04.279
<v Speaker 2>of an egg, right, fertilization of an egg. So that

1620
01:51:04.319 --> 01:51:08.439
<v Speaker 2>could be masturbation, that could be you know, various types

1621
01:51:08.479 --> 01:51:14.680
<v Speaker 2>of whatever types of sex that are you know, more

1622
01:51:14.720 --> 01:51:18.239
<v Speaker 2>fornicative by nature because they cannot result in having children.

1623
01:51:19.359 --> 01:51:25.920
<v Speaker 2>People have long interpreted that as the uh knowledge, you know,

1624
01:51:26.159 --> 01:51:29.960
<v Speaker 2>fruit of knowledge of good and evil, because it's kind

1625
01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:33.000
<v Speaker 2>of death, you know, it's those life forces are not

1626
01:51:33.199 --> 01:51:37.039
<v Speaker 2>completing their mission. They're dying, or they're serving some other mission,

1627
01:51:37.079 --> 01:51:42.439
<v Speaker 2>maybe a more selfish, selfish mission, like people talk about enlightenment.

1628
01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:47.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh fuck yourself, you know, ejaculation. Swans talked about the

1629
01:51:47.479 --> 01:51:49.720
<v Speaker 2>skull fuck method a couple of.

1630
01:51:49.760 --> 01:51:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Times, yes, which it actually works, not even I bet

1631
01:51:54.800 --> 01:51:58.279
<v Speaker 1>so check this out. Oh graceful chaft that send us

1632
01:51:58.359 --> 01:52:02.640
<v Speaker 1>thy shade afar. Oh brother, you're so erect. So this

1633
01:52:02.760 --> 01:52:05.640
<v Speaker 1>is actually the initiation ritual and what they do, and

1634
01:52:05.680 --> 01:52:08.399
<v Speaker 1>they they assigned the candidate a name. The candidate is

1635
01:52:08.399 --> 01:52:12.000
<v Speaker 1>given a new name Tamar, signifying a palm tree, and

1636
01:52:12.119 --> 01:52:16.399
<v Speaker 1>is inducted as a novitate of the palm tree. So

1637
01:52:17.279 --> 01:52:21.600
<v Speaker 1>again there's a whole sect of freemasonry that focuses on

1638
01:52:21.640 --> 01:52:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the palm tree and the shafts. I'm sure, I'm sure

1639
01:52:24.600 --> 01:52:29.239
<v Speaker 1>they love that, you know, the shafts. And if you

1640
01:52:31.680 --> 01:52:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I related this to the parallel lines touching, they are

1641
01:52:35.399 --> 01:52:38.119
<v Speaker 1>said to right. So these two lines represent Saint John

1642
01:52:38.159 --> 01:52:42.920
<v Speaker 1>the Baptist and Saint John the Evangelist, but they really

1643
01:52:42.920 --> 01:52:50.000
<v Speaker 1>refer to the solsticial points cancer and Capricorn and the zodiac.

1644
01:52:50.039 --> 01:52:51.560
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if you can speak on this

1645
01:52:51.760 --> 01:52:55.199
<v Speaker 1>at all. Long ago where the first record example, the

1646
01:52:55.239 --> 01:52:58.399
<v Speaker 1>cancer constellation came from the second millennium BC, where it

1647
01:52:58.479 --> 01:53:01.479
<v Speaker 1>was known to a Kadian a straw astronomers as the

1648
01:53:01.520 --> 01:53:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Sun of the South. This was most likely due to

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01:53:04.279 --> 01:53:08.600
<v Speaker 1>its position at the summer solstice during ancient antiquity. By

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01:53:08.680 --> 01:53:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Classic antiquity, cancer came to be called the Gate of Man,

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01:53:13.319 --> 01:53:16.600
<v Speaker 1>based on the belief that it was a portal through

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01:53:16.640 --> 01:53:20.199
<v Speaker 1>which souls came and went from the heavens.

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01:53:20.960 --> 01:53:27.359
<v Speaker 2>So well, serious, serious is in cancer the sign of

1654
01:53:27.399 --> 01:53:32.359
<v Speaker 2>cancer that the dog star. Yep. So that's you know,

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01:53:32.439 --> 01:53:34.319
<v Speaker 2>a big focal point.

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01:53:34.159 --> 01:53:37.479
<v Speaker 1>For a lot of god backwards.

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01:53:36.359 --> 01:53:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Mysticism and occult you know, interests the underworld. People associate

1658
01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:46.760
<v Speaker 2>with Sirius and Osiris and you know.

1659
01:53:47.880 --> 01:53:48.039
<v Speaker 1>But.

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01:53:49.920 --> 01:53:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, so Palm Tree, you're absolutely right. Plan. You know,

1661
01:53:53.760 --> 01:53:56.640
<v Speaker 2>the Templars, the Masons, they're very phallic in a lot

1662
01:53:56.680 --> 01:54:00.880
<v Speaker 2>of their you know, their attitudes and what they venerated.

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01:54:00.920 --> 01:54:03.680
<v Speaker 2>They where they were into a lot of the hanky

1664
01:54:03.720 --> 01:54:10.560
<v Speaker 2>panky and allegedly but Palm Tree at the masturbation. You know,

1665
01:54:10.600 --> 01:54:14.079
<v Speaker 2>we've heard about skull and bones initiations where you have

1666
01:54:14.119 --> 01:54:16.479
<v Speaker 2>to like jerk off or pretend to jerk off in

1667
01:54:16.479 --> 01:54:21.960
<v Speaker 2>front of everyone. But also you know, as far as

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01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:25.159
<v Speaker 2>what was the sin maybe the fruit of knowledge good

1669
01:54:25.199 --> 01:54:31.199
<v Speaker 2>and evil. There's also in the Bible there's various kind

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01:54:31.199 --> 01:54:35.439
<v Speaker 2>of warnings or at least lessons about pulling out right,

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01:54:35.479 --> 01:54:41.520
<v Speaker 2>which kind of reiterate the concept of being sexual without

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01:54:41.560 --> 01:54:45.720
<v Speaker 2>being fruitful is perhaps looked down upon or opens up

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01:54:45.760 --> 01:54:52.079
<v Speaker 2>a whole other avenue of human understanding that is perhaps true,

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01:54:52.720 --> 01:54:56.359
<v Speaker 2>and is you know what welcomed like genius and industry

1675
01:54:56.439 --> 01:55:00.039
<v Speaker 2>and kind of going against nature. And I want, I

1676
01:55:00.119 --> 01:55:03.319
<v Speaker 2>say going against nature. I'm not bringing like a ethical

1677
01:55:03.399 --> 01:55:06.319
<v Speaker 2>or moral side to what I'm saying going against nature

1678
01:55:06.319 --> 01:55:08.640
<v Speaker 2>in the side of coming up with all these industries

1679
01:55:08.680 --> 01:55:11.039
<v Speaker 2>to make our lives easier, to kind of get around

1680
01:55:11.119 --> 01:55:19.039
<v Speaker 2>some of nature's defense mechanisms or firewalls, like clothing, fire technology,

1681
01:55:19.159 --> 01:55:22.479
<v Speaker 2>things that lifted us up away from the other animals.

1682
01:55:22.840 --> 01:55:30.119
<v Speaker 2>People point to a shift in sexuality early on as

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01:55:30.159 --> 01:55:33.680
<v Speaker 2>being what, really, if we're going to look at this

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01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:42.479
<v Speaker 2>in a kind of evolutionary lens, like what branched us

1685
01:55:42.479 --> 01:55:46.000
<v Speaker 2>all from the other animals is you know, not many

1686
01:55:46.079 --> 01:55:49.720
<v Speaker 2>animals have like sex for fun, but some of the

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01:55:49.720 --> 01:55:52.239
<v Speaker 2>ones who do are very intelligent and almost look like

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01:55:52.279 --> 01:55:57.520
<v Speaker 2>they are alien species as well, like dolphins. Right, So,

1689
01:55:57.800 --> 01:56:00.159
<v Speaker 2>going back to the vapor wave thing, there's dolphins and

1690
01:56:00.680 --> 01:56:03.439
<v Speaker 2>a lot of that artwork, and dolphins are known to

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01:56:03.600 --> 01:56:09.439
<v Speaker 2>be kind of malicious, conniving, and also they have sex

1692
01:56:09.479 --> 01:56:10.199
<v Speaker 2>for gratification.

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01:56:10.239 --> 01:56:11.800
<v Speaker 1>They're a little they're a little grapy.

1694
01:56:13.479 --> 01:56:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Now, apparently Epstein likes dolphins, or at least he definitely

1695
01:56:17.119 --> 01:56:21.800
<v Speaker 2>liked atlantis. But right here, let's let me talk about

1696
01:56:21.840 --> 01:56:22.479
<v Speaker 2>some other trees.

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01:56:22.960 --> 01:56:25.479
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, let me just bring this up in royal

1698
01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:29.399
<v Speaker 1>arc or royal arch freemasonry, right because earlier we talked

1699
01:56:29.399 --> 01:56:31.880
<v Speaker 1>about how they hide it in plain sight. Well, these

1700
01:56:31.880 --> 01:56:37.359
<v Speaker 1>are some some illustrations from some of the different levels

1701
01:56:37.479 --> 01:56:40.640
<v Speaker 1>of royal arc royal arch freemasonry, and what do you

1702
01:56:40.640 --> 01:56:46.960
<v Speaker 1>see on the walls, you have the the palm trees. Yeah,

1703
01:56:47.000 --> 01:56:51.359
<v Speaker 1>he could be right, maybe he might be the the

1704
01:56:51.399 --> 01:56:53.199
<v Speaker 1>sye op And then if you have you if you

1705
01:56:53.800 --> 01:56:57.800
<v Speaker 1>take the scientific name of the date, palms equals sixty nine,

1706
01:56:57.880 --> 01:56:59.920
<v Speaker 1>which we see sixty nine a lot where right can

1707
01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:03.359
<v Speaker 1>answer that portal and we see it as right the

1708
01:57:03.479 --> 01:57:08.199
<v Speaker 1>cornerstone and we'll arc which again it's part in my opinion,

1709
01:57:08.239 --> 01:57:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that they understand these esosteric concepts. And you

1710
01:57:11.880 --> 01:57:16.039
<v Speaker 1>can take these two pillars as in my opinion holding

1711
01:57:16.159 --> 01:57:19.960
<v Speaker 1>up right reality right, and it holds up the portal

1712
01:57:20.000 --> 01:57:22.520
<v Speaker 1>into which you could go in through.

1713
01:57:22.960 --> 01:57:27.880
<v Speaker 2>So you know you were asking about like the sun

1714
01:57:27.920 --> 01:57:31.199
<v Speaker 2>of the south and cancer and what does that have

1715
01:57:31.279 --> 01:57:34.720
<v Speaker 2>to do with things? Well, cancer is up there at

1716
01:57:34.720 --> 01:57:37.439
<v Speaker 2>the top of the arch in masonry, which is interesting

1717
01:57:37.479 --> 01:57:41.199
<v Speaker 2>because in an astrology chart, cancers at the bottom of

1718
01:57:41.239 --> 01:57:43.960
<v Speaker 2>the arch, so they kind of they kind of flop

1719
01:57:44.039 --> 01:57:44.680
<v Speaker 2>that a little bit.

1720
01:57:46.159 --> 01:57:48.079
<v Speaker 1>I think that's part of it, though, bro, because if

1721
01:57:48.119 --> 01:57:51.279
<v Speaker 1>you look at if you look at the tracing boards,

1722
01:57:52.239 --> 01:57:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the tracing boards are freemasonry. The the directions are actually inverted.

1723
01:58:00.159 --> 01:58:03.159
<v Speaker 2>So since we're on the look.

1724
01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:06.920
<v Speaker 1>At the directions, north is here, East is up south west.

1725
01:58:07.920 --> 01:58:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, and an astrology chart east is supposed to

1726
01:58:11.720 --> 01:58:18.119
<v Speaker 2>be in the left, but they since we're kind of

1727
01:58:18.159 --> 01:58:21.119
<v Speaker 2>still on sexuality a little bit. You know, the glyph

1728
01:58:21.359 --> 01:58:24.279
<v Speaker 2>for cancer. People know cancer is the crab, but the

1729
01:58:24.279 --> 01:58:28.520
<v Speaker 2>glyph for cancer is sixty nine. Yes, so there's another

1730
01:58:28.600 --> 01:58:38.279
<v Speaker 2>little you know thing. Now, palm trees. The box saga

1731
01:58:38.479 --> 01:58:40.760
<v Speaker 2>puts a kind of kind of a big emphasis on

1732
01:58:41.279 --> 01:58:45.239
<v Speaker 2>palm trees as well. But all right, but.

1733
01:58:45.640 --> 01:58:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's touch on something that you wanted to talk about,

1734
01:58:48.359 --> 01:58:51.319
<v Speaker 1>because this is what really stemmed the whole thing for

1735
01:58:51.359 --> 01:58:55.279
<v Speaker 1>me is when I was looking into Robert Flood, and

1736
01:58:55.720 --> 01:58:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Robert Flood interprets the tree of life as far as

1737
01:58:59.000 --> 01:59:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Kabbala goes as in my opinion, an upside down palm tree. Right, this,

1738
01:59:05.720 --> 01:59:07.560
<v Speaker 1>it's inverted. It's not supposed to be like this. I

1739
01:59:07.800 --> 01:59:11.720
<v Speaker 1>flipped it, but it should be up. So the the

1740
01:59:11.720 --> 01:59:13.600
<v Speaker 1>the root, and and the way that they interpret it

1741
01:59:13.640 --> 01:59:16.720
<v Speaker 1>is right. The root. Everything comes from God, which is

1742
01:59:16.800 --> 01:59:20.399
<v Speaker 1>the root, and and then reality itself sort of bleeds

1743
01:59:20.439 --> 01:59:24.399
<v Speaker 1>down from that. But I flipped it upside down. Yeah,

1744
01:59:24.399 --> 01:59:27.880
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't go like this, let me, it goes like this.

1745
01:59:28.199 --> 01:59:31.840
<v Speaker 1>So this is Robert Flood's Tree of Life, which it's

1746
01:59:31.960 --> 01:59:36.560
<v Speaker 1>one of the only ones that's interpreted as a tree.

1747
01:59:36.600 --> 01:59:39.800
<v Speaker 1>But in my opinion, it's a palm tree. Okay, because

1748
01:59:39.800 --> 01:59:42.039
<v Speaker 1>if you look at the the anatomy of a this

1749
01:59:42.119 --> 01:59:45.479
<v Speaker 1>is a palm tree. It's in my opinion, it's the same. Right.

1750
01:59:45.479 --> 01:59:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's got these little offshoots, but so does a

1751
01:59:48.840 --> 01:59:51.199
<v Speaker 1>date palm. Right, they have these little So I think

1752
01:59:51.279 --> 01:59:53.640
<v Speaker 1>that he was in the know, one of the main

1753
01:59:53.720 --> 01:59:56.760
<v Speaker 1>guys that one of the main proponents of Rosicrucianism, right,

1754
01:59:56.840 --> 01:59:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Robert Flood.

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01:59:58.119 --> 02:00:03.239
<v Speaker 2>So he was also a big on writing. He I

1756
02:00:03.279 --> 02:00:07.199
<v Speaker 2>don't know about big, but he remarked on how star

1757
02:00:07.319 --> 02:00:11.600
<v Speaker 2>forks had sacred geometry in them. He was one of

1758
02:00:11.640 --> 02:00:16.800
<v Speaker 2>the first guys to talk about the mystical like meaning

1759
02:00:17.159 --> 02:00:23.239
<v Speaker 2>or interpretation of star fords, saying, well, if they look

1760
02:00:23.399 --> 02:00:28.359
<v Speaker 2>like sacred symbols, you know, even if they weren't designed

1761
02:00:28.359 --> 02:00:30.560
<v Speaker 2>for that, it still has some significance.

1762
02:00:32.000 --> 02:00:36.239
<v Speaker 1>And one last thing before we move on, that is

1763
02:00:37.239 --> 02:00:44.319
<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting to me is that the well this involves

1764
02:00:44.359 --> 02:00:48.079
<v Speaker 1>Philip K. Dick. Yeah, that's not I talked about Carl Young.

1765
02:00:49.079 --> 02:00:52.439
<v Speaker 1>But let's now let's move on. I'll save this for

1766
02:00:52.479 --> 02:00:55.640
<v Speaker 1>a presentation, but point being that John of pat Most

1767
02:00:55.680 --> 02:00:59.439
<v Speaker 1>that wrote Revelation. Pat Most is known as the land

1768
02:00:59.479 --> 02:01:04.159
<v Speaker 1>of the palm Tree. I believe so pat Most the

1769
02:01:04.279 --> 02:01:09.520
<v Speaker 1>palm tree. Yeah, the Patmost is a Greek island in

1770
02:01:09.560 --> 02:01:12.199
<v Speaker 1>the a GNC, famous as the place where the apostle

1771
02:01:12.279 --> 02:01:15.560
<v Speaker 1>John was exiled and wrote the Book of Revelation, often

1772
02:01:15.600 --> 02:01:19.279
<v Speaker 1>associated with the name Palmosa, and the palm tree is historical,

1773
02:01:20.239 --> 02:01:24.439
<v Speaker 1>so historically the rugged rocket Dancy has very few palm trees.

1774
02:01:24.479 --> 02:01:27.760
<v Speaker 1>But I have to find the slide. There's a lot

1775
02:01:27.760 --> 02:01:29.640
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. You're obviously one hundred and twenty four slides

1776
02:01:29.640 --> 02:01:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just jumping around and as you can see

1777
02:01:33.399 --> 02:01:35.119
<v Speaker 1>the rabbit hole that I was in at the time

1778
02:01:36.439 --> 02:01:39.800
<v Speaker 1>with the palm tree and all of its connections. And

1779
02:01:39.840 --> 02:01:43.560
<v Speaker 1>then I didn't even link it to alchemy or the matrix.

1780
02:01:43.640 --> 02:01:46.239
<v Speaker 1>There's there's so many different things. Once you start to

1781
02:01:46.880 --> 02:01:49.800
<v Speaker 1>really sit down and look at it, it's like, WHOA

1782
02:01:50.079 --> 02:01:51.880
<v Speaker 1>what that's.

1783
02:01:51.640 --> 02:01:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Cool, man, you know. And we were talking about the

1784
02:01:53.800 --> 02:01:59.000
<v Speaker 2>fig a little bit before. You've heard about figs and wasps. No, okay,

1785
02:01:59.079 --> 02:02:05.720
<v Speaker 2>So figs are fertilized or kind of like they reproduce

1786
02:02:05.800 --> 02:02:10.000
<v Speaker 2>in a very interesting way. Some fig trees rely on

1787
02:02:10.199 --> 02:02:16.960
<v Speaker 2>wasps to crawl into their fruit, and they, if you

1788
02:02:17.000 --> 02:02:21.560
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about symbolism and allegory, okay, wasps lay

1789
02:02:21.600 --> 02:02:26.239
<v Speaker 2>their children in figs, the fruit and when we eat

1790
02:02:26.279 --> 02:02:28.920
<v Speaker 2>figs sometimes they have little pieces of wasps in them

1791
02:02:29.800 --> 02:02:33.600
<v Speaker 2>and the figs. Yeah, this is true. So figs. Many

1792
02:02:33.640 --> 02:02:36.880
<v Speaker 2>people do not believe figs are vegan because they have

1793
02:02:36.920 --> 02:02:43.319
<v Speaker 2>dead wasps in them, and the wasp crawls in and

1794
02:02:43.520 --> 02:02:48.640
<v Speaker 2>it rips their wings off. When they crawl in, they

1795
02:02:48.640 --> 02:02:50.479
<v Speaker 2>have to squeeze in a tiny little hole and it

1796
02:02:50.520 --> 02:02:53.960
<v Speaker 2>rips their wings off, so they're dead. Then they lay

1797
02:02:54.000 --> 02:03:00.439
<v Speaker 2>their babies in the wasp sorry, in the fig. You know,

1798
02:03:00.560 --> 02:03:02.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of like the chicken or the egg. You know

1799
02:03:02.079 --> 02:03:05.399
<v Speaker 2>how this really start. They're not just laying their kids

1800
02:03:05.439 --> 02:03:10.479
<v Speaker 2>in the fig. Well, yeah, they do. They lay eggs

1801
02:03:10.560 --> 02:03:13.640
<v Speaker 2>in the fig. They die in the fig because they

1802
02:03:13.680 --> 02:03:19.319
<v Speaker 2>can't leave, and then the males. The males wake up first,

1803
02:03:19.520 --> 02:03:25.960
<v Speaker 2>they hatch first, and as they're leaving, they impregnate their

1804
02:03:26.079 --> 02:03:32.319
<v Speaker 2>unborn sisters in the in the fig. You gotta you

1805
02:03:32.359 --> 02:03:39.279
<v Speaker 2>gotta get a sandboard, like oh hell nah, yep, one

1806
02:03:39.319 --> 02:03:44.840
<v Speaker 2>of those. So they impregnate their unborn sisters in in

1807
02:03:45.159 --> 02:03:49.960
<v Speaker 2>while they're still in like a larvae form, and then

1808
02:03:50.199 --> 02:03:52.600
<v Speaker 2>they die. They don't live very long at all. The

1809
02:03:52.600 --> 02:03:56.079
<v Speaker 2>male wasps they're dead like right away. And then the

1810
02:03:56.079 --> 02:03:59.439
<v Speaker 2>female wasps crawl out of the little hole because they're

1811
02:03:59.479 --> 02:04:04.439
<v Speaker 2>small and their wings aren't fully developed, and they then

1812
02:04:04.720 --> 02:04:07.720
<v Speaker 2>it's their job to fly to a new to a

1813
02:04:07.760 --> 02:04:13.600
<v Speaker 2>new fig. So that's how figs, figs and wasps. I'm

1814
02:04:13.600 --> 02:04:16.119
<v Speaker 2>probably missing a little some specific song there.

1815
02:04:16.159 --> 02:04:20.479
<v Speaker 1>But you know what's interesting, bro that if we look

1816
02:04:20.640 --> 02:04:31.239
<v Speaker 1>at the one of the stories, the sister of Absalom,

1817
02:04:31.399 --> 02:04:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the third son of King David this tomorrow is great

1818
02:04:35.920 --> 02:04:40.119
<v Speaker 1>by her half brother Amnon, right, this is in the Bible.

1819
02:04:41.039 --> 02:04:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Two years later he is assassinated. But right, the way

1820
02:04:44.039 --> 02:04:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about the wasp andmpregnating, you know, being involved

1821
02:04:49.600 --> 02:04:53.319
<v Speaker 1>in incest sort of a thing, right, It kind of

1822
02:04:53.319 --> 02:04:57.000
<v Speaker 1>made me think about that. But yeah, there's a lot

1823
02:04:57.039 --> 02:05:00.640
<v Speaker 1>of you know, interesting connections when it comes to when.

1824
02:05:00.520 --> 02:05:03.520
<v Speaker 2>You say wasps. When you say it like that wasps

1825
02:05:03.560 --> 02:05:07.960
<v Speaker 2>involved in incests, it literally makes me think of Jamie

1826
02:05:08.039 --> 02:05:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Lanister and Sir c Lanister, like Game of Thrones or

1827
02:05:12.359 --> 02:05:17.039
<v Speaker 2>like a wasp the like white like white Anglo Sacs

1828
02:05:17.159 --> 02:05:21.880
<v Speaker 2>and Protestant rich family, like having an incestual relationship.

1829
02:05:22.479 --> 02:05:26.840
<v Speaker 1>And you know they you mentioned pulling out earlier. And

1830
02:05:27.199 --> 02:05:31.119
<v Speaker 1>the three women, and yeah you did. The three that

1831
02:05:31.399 --> 02:05:36.279
<v Speaker 1>there are three women and two named Tamar in the Bible.

1832
02:05:36.319 --> 02:05:38.720
<v Speaker 1>The women are the wife of Earth so and of Judah.

1833
02:05:38.880 --> 02:05:41.000
<v Speaker 1>After is that she becomes the mother Judas twin son

1834
02:05:41.039 --> 02:05:44.039
<v Speaker 1>Perez and Zara Perez went to become the ancestor of

1835
02:05:44.119 --> 02:05:46.800
<v Speaker 1>King David. And thus Jesus Christ tomorrow is one of

1836
02:05:46.840 --> 02:05:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the four women mentioned by name of the Matthean genealogy

1837
02:05:50.000 --> 02:05:54.239
<v Speaker 1>of Christ. And then Onan And this is this is

1838
02:05:54.319 --> 02:05:59.960
<v Speaker 1>where I learned through my esoteric studies what Coitus interrupted

1839
02:06:00.920 --> 02:06:05.439
<v Speaker 1>was right. So Ohnn performed Coitus interrupts and I was like, bro,

1840
02:06:05.600 --> 02:06:09.279
<v Speaker 1>what like what does that even mean? Right? His actions

1841
02:06:09.279 --> 02:06:12.279
<v Speaker 1>displease God, and so like his older brother, God killed him.

1842
02:06:12.520 --> 02:06:14.680
<v Speaker 1>At this point, Judah's portrayed his viewing Tomorrow to be

1843
02:06:14.760 --> 02:06:18.319
<v Speaker 1>cursed and therefore being reluctant to give her his remaining

1844
02:06:18.319 --> 02:06:22.800
<v Speaker 1>and youngest son, Sheila. But yeah, Coitus interruptis is pulling out.

1845
02:06:23.720 --> 02:06:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pulling out. It could also be like edging or

1846
02:06:26.960 --> 02:06:29.520
<v Speaker 2>like gooning, which is really big right now. And this

1847
02:06:29.760 --> 02:06:33.279
<v Speaker 2>really ties back to Jeffrey Epstein a little bit, because

1848
02:06:33.960 --> 02:06:36.520
<v Speaker 2>you ever see that Robert Seppar video where he was

1849
02:06:36.600 --> 02:06:41.119
<v Speaker 2>like really trying really hard to like make the case

1850
02:06:41.159 --> 02:06:46.600
<v Speaker 2>that Jeffrey Epstein was like a master, like not master,

1851
02:06:46.680 --> 02:06:50.000
<v Speaker 2>but like a tom trick practitioner, and he was like

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02:06:50.039 --> 02:06:53.359
<v Speaker 2>awakening his Kundalini by getting massages from thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>I never watched I never really watched that guy's stuff, bro.

1854
02:06:56.319 --> 02:06:59.119
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, let me let me well, you don't have to,

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02:06:59.199 --> 02:07:01.279
<v Speaker 2>let me give you an impress of how it went.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, here we go.

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02:07:04.520 --> 02:07:08.039
<v Speaker 2>Little Saint James Island is an island in the Caribbean.

1858
02:07:08.880 --> 02:07:17.399
<v Speaker 2>Five minutes later, by not ejaculating and forcing the for

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02:07:17.720 --> 02:07:24.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, forces upward, one is able to attain new

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02:07:24.439 --> 02:07:29.439
<v Speaker 2>levels of consciousness. It's like I already made this joke

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02:07:29.520 --> 02:07:32.960
<v Speaker 2>like a week ago. It's like, the Poll is a

1862
02:07:33.000 --> 02:07:36.439
<v Speaker 2>country in Asia. This is your average Robert sepper video.

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02:07:37.439 --> 02:07:41.479
<v Speaker 2>Just name any country, so like the Poll is a

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<v Speaker 2>country in Asia known for its rich history and cuisine.

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<v Speaker 2>By the by the end of the video, no matter

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02:07:47.640 --> 02:07:50.359
<v Speaker 2>what the video's about, by the end of the video,

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02:07:50.439 --> 02:07:54.239
<v Speaker 2>he's talking about you jerking off or not drinking.

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02:07:54.279 --> 02:07:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Really, are you talking about semen retention and stuff like.

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<v Speaker 2>That, yep. I mean that's how you get it in there,

1870
02:08:00.479 --> 02:08:02.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, dress it up however you want. What it

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02:08:02.640 --> 02:08:05.960
<v Speaker 2>really is is trying to get involved in everyone's sex life, okay,

1872
02:08:06.000 --> 02:08:10.039
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's nasty and weird. And no matter

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02:08:10.680 --> 02:08:13.199
<v Speaker 2>what he tries to make a video about, he has

1874
02:08:13.359 --> 02:08:16.720
<v Speaker 2>to tie it back into that. It's like compulsive behavior

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02:08:16.800 --> 02:08:18.439
<v Speaker 2>and it's alarming for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, yeah, I know. Somebody hit. Somebody actually had wrote

1877
02:08:23.159 --> 02:08:29.359
<v Speaker 1>to me on Instagram and they were like, hey, set

1878
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<v Speaker 1>First said that he's going to be doing a podcast soon.

1879
02:08:32.800 --> 02:08:34.880
<v Speaker 1>You should get him on your podcast, and I was like,

1880
02:08:35.760 --> 02:08:40.039
<v Speaker 1>I wrote back, I'm like, well, I don't really. I

1881
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<v Speaker 1>I've never watched any of it. I've watched maybe like

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02:08:43.439 --> 02:08:45.479
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of a video or something, but I've never

1883
02:08:45.560 --> 02:08:48.000
<v Speaker 1>like sat down and watched this stuff. And I'm like,

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02:08:48.000 --> 02:08:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and if he's going to go on a podcast for

1885
02:08:49.560 --> 02:08:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the first time, I doubt he would go on my

1886
02:08:52.039 --> 02:08:56.119
<v Speaker 1>podcast because my podcast isn't even that big, so I

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02:08:56.159 --> 02:08:59.399
<v Speaker 1>think he would save that for, you know, a bigger show.

1888
02:09:00.439 --> 02:09:02.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure he's gotten a bunch of people reaching

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<v Speaker 1>out to him to do their show. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know. Now you're telling me this about

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<v Speaker 1>him where it's all about edging edged lords. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>holding it in. I know that, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I'm not against the principle. I'm actually completely in

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02:09:21.560 --> 02:09:26.680
<v Speaker 2>favor of not wasting those vital fluids.

1895
02:09:26.199 --> 02:09:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Very boxing saga of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not wasting them as much as possible. But the

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02:09:31.680 --> 02:09:35.520
<v Speaker 2>fact that he tries to get up on people and

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02:09:35.880 --> 02:09:39.079
<v Speaker 2>either make the you know, and you try to influence

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02:09:39.159 --> 02:09:42.319
<v Speaker 2>them to conform to his you know, beliefs, try and

1900
02:09:42.560 --> 02:09:45.439
<v Speaker 2>tell people that things are bad, like it's coming from

1901
02:09:45.479 --> 02:09:47.960
<v Speaker 2>a very gnostic place that I really don't like. And

1902
02:09:48.000 --> 02:09:50.840
<v Speaker 2>he always puts, you know, he says like, you know,

1903
02:09:50.880 --> 02:09:53.359
<v Speaker 2>he makes these little disclaimers like, oh, I'm not telling

1904
02:09:53.399 --> 02:09:55.880
<v Speaker 2>people what to do or this or that, but your interests,

1905
02:09:55.960 --> 02:09:59.399
<v Speaker 2>our interests betray who we are, you know, they reveal

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02:09:59.439 --> 02:10:02.680
<v Speaker 2>who we are. Why long ago got a hate so

1907
02:10:02.800 --> 02:10:07.560
<v Speaker 2>much because I'm a hater, because I'm a hater. And

1908
02:10:07.640 --> 02:10:11.039
<v Speaker 2>when you grow up watching someone it's not so much

1909
02:10:11.119 --> 02:10:14.479
<v Speaker 2>like don't meet your heroes, but after a time, you're

1910
02:10:14.520 --> 02:10:18.079
<v Speaker 2>influenced by people a lot after a certain point, you

1911
02:10:18.199 --> 02:10:20.439
<v Speaker 2>kind of only get let down by what you find out.

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<v Speaker 2>And for supper, I wish he'd I wish he'd impressed me.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that that's his job or it's important or I

1914
02:10:28.079 --> 02:10:32.640
<v Speaker 2>deserve that, but because and you know what Juan's saying,

1915
02:10:32.680 --> 02:10:39.960
<v Speaker 2>like he doesn't he doesn't really interact with his fans truly.

1916
02:10:41.199 --> 02:10:46.119
<v Speaker 2>He's very distant and behind the screen, and he likes

1917
02:10:46.159 --> 02:10:48.680
<v Speaker 2>to keep a big distance, like a buffer between him

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02:10:48.720 --> 02:10:53.359
<v Speaker 2>and his supporters. He has a very hard time, it seems,

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02:10:53.399 --> 02:10:57.439
<v Speaker 2>being like authentic. I mean, he seems like he has

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<v Speaker 2>to sit down and type out every idea he has

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02:11:01.199 --> 02:11:03.279
<v Speaker 2>or else it's not really his. Like he can't just

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02:11:03.319 --> 02:11:06.079
<v Speaker 2>be himself in front of a camera. Sometimes he walks

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02:11:06.119 --> 02:11:10.920
<v Speaker 2>around and like films himself live, you know, briefly, or

1924
02:11:10.920 --> 02:11:15.279
<v Speaker 2>he takes some questions on X but usually his camera's off.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something you know, he just strikes me as he

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02:11:19.960 --> 02:11:23.760
<v Speaker 2>can't really be himself, or he's not happy or comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>with himself, or he's being very deceptive. You know, you

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02:11:27.239 --> 02:11:32.119
<v Speaker 2>don't have to be like a public attention seeking person,

1929
02:11:32.199 --> 02:11:37.399
<v Speaker 2>but he does want attention, and the way he goes

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<v Speaker 2>about it, I think are weird. He's very vague about

1931
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<v Speaker 2>his murky ancestry. He claim. He's openly said he's Jewish before,

1932
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<v Speaker 2>but if you call him Jewish, he gets angry. He

1933
02:11:52.840 --> 02:11:57.039
<v Speaker 2>is obsessed with, like, you know, Germany during World War Two,

1934
02:11:57.199 --> 02:12:00.520
<v Speaker 2>and he really tries to tiptoe the line and be like, yeah,

1935
02:12:00.600 --> 02:12:07.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm based, Yeah I'm based, you know, oh I'm But

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<v Speaker 2>he's really far from that. So who his father was

1937
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<v Speaker 2>is kind of suspicious. The fact that he seems to

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<v Speaker 2>have a totally different view from his father on certain

1939
02:12:20.039 --> 02:12:23.920
<v Speaker 2>historic events. And again I don't know the ends and

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<v Speaker 2>the outs. He knows his father better at better than

1941
02:12:25.880 --> 02:12:30.920
<v Speaker 2>anyone probably, but Robert Sepper strikes me as untrustworthy. He

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02:12:31.000 --> 02:12:32.960
<v Speaker 2>has an agenda, He seems to have a lot of

1943
02:12:33.000 --> 02:12:38.319
<v Speaker 2>anger and bitterness. As someone who's not very racially sensitive,

1944
02:12:38.520 --> 02:12:43.039
<v Speaker 2>I can say I do think my opinion that Robert

1945
02:12:43.079 --> 02:12:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Sepper is an actual racist who thinks very very low

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<v Speaker 2>of black and brown people, not just critical, not just

1947
02:12:54.319 --> 02:12:58.640
<v Speaker 2>like critical of like the culture and crime. And I

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02:12:58.720 --> 02:13:03.399
<v Speaker 2>really do think he looks very down on them from

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02:13:03.439 --> 02:13:06.840
<v Speaker 2>what I've seen, because people hide that stuff. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>with me, what you see is what you get, take,

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<v Speaker 2>you take it or leave it?

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<v Speaker 1>What was that? But yo, uh so I misspoke earlier

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<v Speaker 1>right as pat most there was a single poem and

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<v Speaker 1>then Jericho is known as the city of pom I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to correct that real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, on trying to move one's trying to move on.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not trying to piss off his.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't care. I don't know the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and and and to his defense, right about

1960
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<v Speaker 1>being socially awkward, I mean, we're all if we're in

1961
02:13:39.079 --> 02:13:44.359
<v Speaker 1>this community, we're weird, right, we're social. I'm socially awkward, right,

1962
02:13:44.399 --> 02:13:48.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think some people are more comfortable behind a screen.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh you know. I mean I think it's just to

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<v Speaker 1>come to his defense, right, I don't know the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's probably right. Maybe we're all a little autistic

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<v Speaker 1>on some level, right. I think if you're into this

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02:14:02.199 --> 02:14:04.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff, you gotta be you gotta be able

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<v Speaker 1>to think outside the box. But again, I don't, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. It was just interesting that you brought him

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<v Speaker 1>up and somebody had hit me up on Instagram about him,

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02:14:13.520 --> 02:14:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, dude, I'm never even like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a I'm not a fan, right, Like I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't sit there and watch this stuff. But sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, but yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, you know I used to. I grew up

1976
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<v Speaker 2>watching his stuff. Like in high school, I really liked

1977
02:14:31.640 --> 02:14:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Robert Sepper's videos. And then I get a little older.

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<v Speaker 2>The kind of vague, you know, the kind of vague

1979
02:14:40.680 --> 02:14:43.800
<v Speaker 2>right wing tilts to his video kind of rubs off

1980
02:14:43.880 --> 02:14:46.039
<v Speaker 2>after a while and you realize there's not really a

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02:14:46.079 --> 02:14:50.840
<v Speaker 2>whole lot of like substance or solutions in there. It's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, an hey, my YouTube channel is a fucking mess.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not like I'm saying. I'm saying I've got

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<v Speaker 2>it all figured out over here. But if someone's asking

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, which no one really did, I I find

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<v Speaker 2>him untrustworthy, dark and deceptive, but yeah, and steering. He's

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<v Speaker 2>attempting to steer the right wing, the nationalistic people in

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<v Speaker 2>a direction that I don't agree with.

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<v Speaker 1>And there you go, Yeah, this is this is what

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<v Speaker 1>we got from talking about those girthy palm trees and

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<v Speaker 1>and being erect and you're you're casting your shadow on me.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro Oh he's not short. Someone said he's short. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not short, he's tall. I know, I know people who've

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<v Speaker 2>met him.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe it or not, He's not like a narc over here.

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<v Speaker 1>Five foot five foot three, is it, dude? Five foot three,

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<v Speaker 1>five foot five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, give or take the six inches your mom?

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<v Speaker 1>That your that your mom like, yeah, we do. We've

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<v Speaker 1>heard it at Farm Browns. You can't. I got you

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02:16:02.840 --> 02:16:05.359
<v Speaker 1>before you got me. You see how I know you wrote?

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<v Speaker 2>Give her take six or seven inches?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh graceful chef, that sense nice shade afar oh wreck

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<v Speaker 1>like a palm anyways, Yes, the palm trees, I think

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<v Speaker 1>is a good, strong candidate to being one of the

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<v Speaker 1>tree of life or the tree of good and evil

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<v Speaker 1>and of the knowledge of good and evil. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be doing a whole breakdown of this. I

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02:16:32.399 --> 02:16:34.079
<v Speaker 1>actually have to remember a whole bunch of stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>I that I wrote down here because at the time

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of skit so in a skitzo state

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<v Speaker 1>of mind putting all this information together, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>start drawing parallels where there are none right when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to this sort of stuff, because it's again, it's

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02:16:51.760 --> 02:16:55.079
<v Speaker 1>part of that. And that's why I had to take

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<v Speaker 1>a break for so long, dude, where I had I mean,

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02:16:57.680 --> 02:16:59.079
<v Speaker 1>you know this, I mean you took a break too,

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02:16:59.120 --> 02:17:02.239
<v Speaker 1>because once you start looking into a lot of this stuff,

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02:17:02.680 --> 02:17:08.079
<v Speaker 1>it quite literally drives you insane, and everything around you

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02:17:08.120 --> 02:17:11.360
<v Speaker 1>can be collapsing, Your life can be collapsing right in

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02:17:11.440 --> 02:17:13.840
<v Speaker 1>front of you, and you're just like, what are these?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the esoteric secrets of alchemy? Be? You know,

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02:17:17.719 --> 02:17:19.920
<v Speaker 1>what are they? And then like your life's falling apart,

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02:17:19.959 --> 02:17:22.399
<v Speaker 1>and like at the end of it all, you look

2025
02:17:23.360 --> 02:17:26.159
<v Speaker 1>and you just got to realize one thing that there's

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<v Speaker 1>only God and you gotta find God and be good

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<v Speaker 1>with God. And the rest is like none of this information.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do anything with this information, right, Like it

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<v Speaker 1>does nothing for you at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I had to step back and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we even doing here? And dude, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was away, like I was away, I had I had,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not keep up with like any conspiracies, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>like nothing of anything, And I'm just now getting back

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<v Speaker 1>into everything and I'm just like, uh, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, do I want to be here right now?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? And honestly, I've I know, it's like riding

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<v Speaker 1>a bike, but I've forgotten all of those stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>even like the homuncular stuff. But like, what was I

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<v Speaker 1>even doing. I felt like it was a different person

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<v Speaker 1>doing That's like a it's like a mind virus. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm serious, I'm serious. So I had to step back

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<v Speaker 1>and really take a breathe, and I'm just like, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta gotta just kind of let it marinate. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I even thought about deleting the channel, deleting everything and

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<v Speaker 1>like just stepping away and just disappearing.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, not a bad option.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a bad option. D But yeah, I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about some stuff that I'm not looking back at, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not particularly proud of, you know, but again, it comes

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<v Speaker 1>with the territory. And once you look into these things,

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<v Speaker 1>there's it's it really no pun intended imprints you. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny because I was I was at Bible study

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<v Speaker 1>one night and one of the guys we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about we talked about we brought up Genesis and uh,

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02:19:06.079 --> 02:19:09.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the guys brings up the nephilum and he

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02:19:10.239 --> 02:19:12.319
<v Speaker 1>looks over and me goes, yeah, this is a this

2058
02:19:12.360 --> 02:19:13.840
<v Speaker 1>is a little weird. I know you probably don't want

2059
02:19:13.840 --> 02:19:16.079
<v Speaker 1>to talk about this or or really know much about this,

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02:19:16.159 --> 02:19:18.079
<v Speaker 1>but the nephlum and he's started getting into the netilim,

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02:19:18.079 --> 02:19:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like thinking, in the back of my mind,

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02:19:19.760 --> 02:19:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, brother, you don't even know who you're talking

2063
02:19:24.399 --> 02:19:29.360
<v Speaker 1>to right now. I was like, yeah, I've I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the cool part of the you know. I just

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02:19:31.000 --> 02:19:32.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of like brushed it off, but I didn't really

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02:19:33.120 --> 02:19:37.200
<v Speaker 1>go into it. And but yeah, it's just like once

2067
02:19:37.239 --> 02:19:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you're in it, bro, it just it drives you insane

2068
02:19:40.479 --> 02:19:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and you start talking about whatever. This guy maybe, you know,

2069
02:19:44.680 --> 02:19:46.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe he's experiencing the same thing. You know, when you

2070
02:19:46.520 --> 02:19:49.079
<v Speaker 1>look into the esoteric and the occult, when you stare

2071
02:19:49.120 --> 02:19:53.680
<v Speaker 1>into the abyss, it starts staring back, and sometimes it's

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02:19:53.760 --> 02:19:54.920
<v Speaker 1>not good. It's not good, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, here, there's some other candidates that we gotta

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02:20:00.319 --> 02:20:03.399
<v Speaker 2>talk about before we wrap up, all right, Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about Gumbo Limbo real quick. There's also another

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02:20:11.639 --> 02:20:15.479
<v Speaker 2>one that I know we're gonna have fun pronouncing lignum

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<v Speaker 2>nigam nuts he's Liganum.

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<v Speaker 1>I got got him, bro, whatever, who cares? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the sound? What what's it? What's your liga? Ligawa?

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<v Speaker 2>Your mom's boyfriend's names v Ta Right, liganum vita. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>lignum l I g n u M.

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<v Speaker 1>V I t a e l I g m u

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<v Speaker 1>n n n u M. Like Nancy, this one right here?

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<v Speaker 2>What tree ligum vita Florida. Just search for you Florida. Yeah,

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02:21:01.840 --> 02:21:05.920
<v Speaker 2>there you go, Hollywood. Which one Hollywood? Just go to

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02:21:06.040 --> 02:21:10.920
<v Speaker 2>all like, let the see what the Yeah there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh native to South Florida and the Caribbean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. So this one is called the tree of life,

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<v Speaker 2>lignum vita, the wood of life, the tree of life,

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<v Speaker 2>and that has been that's had that name for hundreds

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02:21:27.239 --> 02:21:29.879
<v Speaker 2>of years. So the Spanish came and heard good things

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02:21:29.879 --> 02:21:36.520
<v Speaker 2>about this tree. It's used for medicine, some other things,

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02:21:37.159 --> 02:21:44.440
<v Speaker 2>but very valuable, you know, cherished tree by the Florida Indians. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So lignum is wood or tree and vita is life.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to the Wikipedia for it. See what it says.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to Oh, let's see you Wikipedia. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you like to dig deeper than Wikipedia.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. Guys, you say you say something wants

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<v Speaker 2>to Huan that he doesn't like. He remembers it for

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the a era.

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<v Speaker 1>We're making jokes about ligam I nuts, but lignum vita

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<v Speaker 1>is Latin for a wood of life. I got, I

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02:22:15.879 --> 02:22:20.200
<v Speaker 1>got a wood for you here, bro, that's full of life. Yeah,

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02:22:20.280 --> 02:22:22.360
<v Speaker 1>let's go. They used to call me that back in college,

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<v Speaker 1>lignum vita, oh man. All right, and it's interesting, right

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<v Speaker 1>they call it mourning wood, right when you wake up

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02:22:32.520 --> 02:22:35.719
<v Speaker 1>with with when you when you wake up erect right,

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02:22:36.399 --> 02:22:39.040
<v Speaker 1>they call it morning wood. So it's interesting, the wood

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<v Speaker 1>of wood of life. And there's right, the morning wood

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<v Speaker 1>is the wood of life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now, if you really want to go down that route,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a good, good comment right here, Eric, Thanks Eric.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right here. Look at this apolo santo Spanish for

2114
02:22:53.399 --> 02:22:54.079
<v Speaker 1>holy stick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, paula can mean wood too. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's always stick.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no tree, yeah, tree, tree or stick? So follow

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02:23:06.399 --> 02:23:07.680
<v Speaker 1>santo is the holy stick?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah No. In Sanskrit or Hindu or Hindu Hindi or

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<v Speaker 2>one of those languages. Probably Sanskrit, penis is lingum, so

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02:23:22.799 --> 02:23:29.920
<v Speaker 2>lignum I think is Latin. Lingam is penis in Sanskrit.

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02:23:30.399 --> 02:23:31.319
<v Speaker 2>So that's pretty close.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I thought I said heavy balls for a second,

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I laughed. But it just says heavy bales,

2125
02:23:36.520 --> 02:23:38.840
<v Speaker 1>But that would have been crazy if it set heavy

2126
02:23:38.840 --> 02:23:40.760
<v Speaker 1>balls like that would have we would have just ended

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02:23:40.760 --> 02:23:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the show right then and there.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro they make they make mallets though, like yeah, cricket, yeah,

2129
02:23:47.959 --> 02:23:49.639
<v Speaker 2>cricket balls.

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02:23:49.920 --> 02:23:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Very what what came first? Cricket or golf? Because I

2131
02:23:52.760 --> 02:23:56.120
<v Speaker 1>know we've gotten into the esoteric interpretations of golf and

2132
02:23:56.159 --> 02:23:59.239
<v Speaker 1>what golf kind of signifies, right, because the rich play

2133
02:23:59.239 --> 02:24:02.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of golf, and they played they played essentially

2134
02:24:02.879 --> 02:24:07.120
<v Speaker 1>on the graves of the indigenous people at times, because

2135
02:24:07.159 --> 02:24:09.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these golf courses are built on old

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02:24:10.239 --> 02:24:18.040
<v Speaker 1>burial mounds and essentially graveyards right of people that the

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02:24:18.079 --> 02:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>indigenous people.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, you know, the tree of life is also the

2139
02:24:21.559 --> 02:24:24.280
<v Speaker 2>cabalistic concept. We were kind of touching on that before.

2140
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<v Speaker 2>There's tons of Cobba law centers in Florida. You know,

2141
02:24:30.239 --> 02:24:33.959
<v Speaker 2>numerology has been used in Florida ever since the Spanish

2142
02:24:34.000 --> 02:24:38.040
<v Speaker 2>first got here. You know, at they were work, you know,

2143
02:24:38.120 --> 02:24:42.559
<v Speaker 2>twisting the numbers and choosing special dates for certain things.

2144
02:24:42.600 --> 02:24:44.680
<v Speaker 2>And then by the time we get to like the

2145
02:24:44.719 --> 02:24:48.639
<v Speaker 2>Civil War or before the Civil War eighteen forty five,

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02:24:48.959 --> 02:24:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Florida's birthday was selected following you know, principles of Cabba

2147
02:24:55.319 --> 02:25:00.920
<v Speaker 2>law and Jametria. Three three March third, Florida's birthday, was

2148
02:25:01.040 --> 02:25:05.719
<v Speaker 2>chosen by the head. He was the Senator of Florida,

2149
02:25:05.840 --> 02:25:09.440
<v Speaker 2>first Florida's first senator, first Jewish senator in American history.

2150
02:25:09.840 --> 02:25:13.280
<v Speaker 2>He was also the lead, one of the leading Freemasons

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02:25:13.280 --> 02:25:16.000
<v Speaker 2>in Florida, in the head of at least one lodge,

2152
02:25:16.760 --> 02:25:21.719
<v Speaker 2>So he selected Florida's three three birthday, thirty three. You know,

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02:25:21.760 --> 02:25:24.799
<v Speaker 2>the coral castle's over there and the zip code three

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02:25:24.920 --> 02:25:29.920
<v Speaker 2>three D zero three three. And but so if you

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02:25:29.920 --> 02:25:31.879
<v Speaker 2>want to interpret the tree of life is cab la.

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02:25:32.440 --> 02:25:34.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's plenty of kabbala in Florida, so we

2157
02:25:34.719 --> 02:25:35.920
<v Speaker 2>can check that off the list.

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02:25:36.680 --> 02:25:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Check this out, check this part out. So this guy

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<v Speaker 1>here recounts using lingdam vite presumably decocted, to cure himself

2160
02:25:46.239 --> 02:25:49.319
<v Speaker 1>of a neuro disease of the French pox, presumably syphilis.

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02:25:49.760 --> 02:25:51.639
<v Speaker 1>And then this other guy here, According to T. H.

2162
02:25:51.680 --> 02:25:54.959
<v Speaker 1>White's version of the Arthurian legend, the once and future

2163
02:25:55.040 --> 02:25:57.840
<v Speaker 1>King Merlin's wand is made of lingdam vitae and has

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02:25:57.879 --> 02:26:01.200
<v Speaker 1>magical power. So quite literally, right, because that's also another

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02:26:02.120 --> 02:26:04.680
<v Speaker 1>thing that we talked about when we talk about Crowley, right,

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02:26:04.760 --> 02:26:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh my wand is so it's so powerful. Well, part

2167
02:26:08.760 --> 02:26:12.959
<v Speaker 1>of that was what sexual rights, sexual rituals and things

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02:26:13.000 --> 02:26:15.239
<v Speaker 1>that they would do in order to what to invoke

2169
02:26:15.799 --> 02:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>altered stage of consciousness, which we have you know, essentially

2170
02:26:19.479 --> 02:26:22.399
<v Speaker 1>sex magic and there where they believe that at orgasm

2171
02:26:22.600 --> 02:26:25.719
<v Speaker 1>you quite literally became one with the universe, and they

2172
02:26:25.719 --> 02:26:28.120
<v Speaker 1>would do these I mean we talked about Parsons not

2173
02:26:28.159 --> 02:26:31.719
<v Speaker 1>too long ago, right JPL, which is connected to Hubbard

2174
02:26:31.799 --> 02:26:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and Florida, where he was using sex magic as a

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02:26:35.959 --> 02:26:41.360
<v Speaker 1>way to you know, tap into the the source. I

2176
02:26:41.440 --> 02:26:43.120
<v Speaker 1>guess you could call it, right, that's what they believe.

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02:26:43.200 --> 02:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>But it seems like Lingdam Vita was the original what

2178
02:26:46.479 --> 02:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood which we we've all heard that before. Hollywood is

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02:26:50.239 --> 02:26:53.959
<v Speaker 1>the tree where they made wands out of in Hollywood,

2180
02:26:54.040 --> 02:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>California is where everything that goes down goes down. Right,

2181
02:26:58.040 --> 02:27:00.319
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a really bad place because of that. Well,

2182
02:27:00.319 --> 02:27:04.959
<v Speaker 1>it turns out might have been link Lingham Vta look

2183
02:27:05.000 --> 02:27:05.959
<v Speaker 1>at my nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we do have a Holywood Florida. Hollywood, Florida's

2185
02:27:12.600 --> 02:27:18.399
<v Speaker 2>betweens in between Miami and Fort Lauderdale. Fort Lauderdale, it's

2186
02:27:19.000 --> 02:27:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Florida kind of, Oh well, since we're on this, you know,

2187
02:27:24.239 --> 02:27:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Florida is almost like the pelvic floor of America. It's

2188
02:27:28.639 --> 02:27:31.479
<v Speaker 2>it's the between Florida and.

2189
02:27:31.520 --> 02:27:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Dallas of the USA.

2190
02:27:33.600 --> 02:27:38.440
<v Speaker 2>And Louisiana's like the the testicles, and then Texas is

2191
02:27:38.440 --> 02:27:39.879
<v Speaker 2>like the prostate or something.

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02:27:40.239 --> 02:27:42.559
<v Speaker 1>We're in the shaft right now. You're you're at towards

2193
02:27:42.559 --> 02:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the tip. I'm towards the shaft. Yeah, the girthy part.

2194
02:27:47.879 --> 02:27:48.959
<v Speaker 1>How do we get here?

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02:27:49.159 --> 02:27:51.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, we talked about the tree of life, Baya

2196
02:27:51.360 --> 02:27:59.639
<v Speaker 2>bab kate, park oak, lignum, vita, gumbo, limbo, the palm

2197
02:27:59.680 --> 02:28:02.760
<v Speaker 2>tree is now let's talk about the tree of knowledge

2198
02:28:02.799 --> 02:28:04.760
<v Speaker 2>of good and evil real quick. We already talked about

2199
02:28:04.799 --> 02:28:10.079
<v Speaker 2>the sexuality kind of Now, we do have a poison

2200
02:28:10.239 --> 02:28:14.200
<v Speaker 2>apple tree here in Florida. It's called the manchionel so

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02:28:14.440 --> 02:28:16.159
<v Speaker 2>m A N C H I.

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02:28:16.319 --> 02:28:22.360
<v Speaker 1>N the hippo main manchilil.

2203
02:28:22.920 --> 02:28:28.559
<v Speaker 2>Yep, go down, click on the Wikipedia. So the manchioneal

2204
02:28:28.639 --> 02:28:34.600
<v Speaker 2>tree is whoa widely considered widely considered the deadliest or

2205
02:28:34.760 --> 02:28:40.159
<v Speaker 2>most poisonous tree in the world, and it's there's not

2206
02:28:40.280 --> 02:28:42.000
<v Speaker 2>many of them, so they're kind of hard to find.

2207
02:28:42.079 --> 02:28:44.040
<v Speaker 2>So they're not that big of a problem. But the

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02:28:44.079 --> 02:28:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Spanish conquistadors when they first came to Florida, they would

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02:28:47.680 --> 02:28:49.399
<v Speaker 2>drop dead from these things.

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02:28:49.120 --> 02:28:49.959
<v Speaker 1>All the time.

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02:28:51.639 --> 02:28:55.639
<v Speaker 2>The manchioneal tree is so poisonous that if you're standing

2212
02:28:55.760 --> 02:29:00.360
<v Speaker 2>under one, just brushing into leaves or rubbing the the

2213
02:29:00.520 --> 02:29:04.520
<v Speaker 2>trunk too hard can cause burns. And if you are

2214
02:29:04.639 --> 02:29:08.479
<v Speaker 2>underneath the tree when it rains, if rain touches the

2215
02:29:08.559 --> 02:29:12.440
<v Speaker 2>tree then drops on you, you can get a burn from that.

2216
02:29:12.479 --> 02:29:13.920
<v Speaker 2>You can get serious burns from that.

2217
02:29:14.399 --> 02:29:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Whoa yep.

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02:29:16.360 --> 02:29:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Every single part of the tree is highly toxic. Now Allegedly,

2219
02:29:21.360 --> 02:29:27.440
<v Speaker 2>some some animals or reptiles can get close to the

2220
02:29:27.479 --> 02:29:28.760
<v Speaker 2>tree and have no issues with it.

2221
02:29:28.840 --> 02:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Milky white sap, but the fruit.

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02:29:33.079 --> 02:29:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Can kill you. Even though no deaths in recent times

2223
02:29:37.799 --> 02:29:41.600
<v Speaker 2>have been reported, the Spanish said people drop dead all

2224
02:29:41.639 --> 02:29:45.479
<v Speaker 2>the time because these taste good. At first. They taste

2225
02:29:45.520 --> 02:29:52.239
<v Speaker 2>like a spicy apple, like a nice, fresh, kind of blandish,

2226
02:29:52.680 --> 02:29:58.559
<v Speaker 2>more mild tasting apple, with like a peppery almost like gingery,

2227
02:29:59.239 --> 02:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>burning flame to it. That's kind of good at first,

2228
02:30:02.799 --> 02:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>and then the burning gets more and more intense, and

2229
02:30:06.120 --> 02:30:10.520
<v Speaker 2>your throat closes up, and you know, people survive it

2230
02:30:10.600 --> 02:30:15.319
<v Speaker 2>so it's not like it's a guaranteed, you know, ticket

2231
02:30:15.399 --> 02:30:19.399
<v Speaker 2>to hell or ticket to the afterlife. But it is

2232
02:30:19.520 --> 02:30:24.280
<v Speaker 2>extremely poisonous and deadly, and every single part of the

2233
02:30:24.319 --> 02:30:25.639
<v Speaker 2>plant is dangerous.

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02:30:25.799 --> 02:30:28.159
<v Speaker 1>What was the other apple we talked about earlier? Because

2235
02:30:28.200 --> 02:30:30.719
<v Speaker 1>knowing my ass, I'm going to be in the Everglades

2236
02:30:30.719 --> 02:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>one day and I'm going to be like, oh, this

2237
02:30:32.639 --> 02:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>is what was the other apple that we talked about,

2238
02:30:34.520 --> 02:30:36.239
<v Speaker 1>the one where the gator had it in its mouth?

2239
02:30:37.760 --> 02:30:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Is it the pond apple?

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking the pond apple? I'd be like, man, this

2241
02:30:41.600 --> 02:30:43.799
<v Speaker 1>looks like a pond ass. Start eating. I'm like, dangn

2242
02:30:43.799 --> 02:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I kind of remember Narco talking about being it's a

2243
02:30:47.079 --> 02:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>little spicy, you know, and then just like oh and

2244
02:30:50.479 --> 02:30:52.799
<v Speaker 1>then look at this our boy. Juan pond stillly On

2245
02:30:52.879 --> 02:30:55.559
<v Speaker 1>died shortly after an injury incurred in battle with the

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02:30:55.639 --> 02:30:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Caloosa in Florida, being struck by an arrow that had

2247
02:30:59.120 --> 02:31:03.799
<v Speaker 1>been poisoned with man chinni el sap so, the white

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02:31:04.000 --> 02:31:07.159
<v Speaker 1>milky substance of the.

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02:31:08.760 --> 02:31:11.879
<v Speaker 2>And so poons da leone. What are the odds he's

2250
02:31:11.920 --> 02:31:15.120
<v Speaker 2>looking for the Fountain of Youth or pretty much the

2251
02:31:15.159 --> 02:31:17.360
<v Speaker 2>same thing as the Garden of Eden. He's looking for

2252
02:31:17.399 --> 02:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>this and he's killed by the poison. He's killed by

2253
02:31:21.719 --> 02:31:26.079
<v Speaker 2>a projectile coded in this poison. By the way, you know,

2254
02:31:26.840 --> 02:31:31.079
<v Speaker 2>not to give this guy too much attention. But the

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02:31:31.120 --> 02:31:36.760
<v Speaker 2>word christ, according to some people, Christ is the word

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02:31:36.959 --> 02:31:43.319
<v Speaker 2>the technical term for applying poison to a a projectile

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02:31:43.399 --> 02:31:46.799
<v Speaker 2>like an arrow or a weapon like that, to christ

2258
02:31:46.920 --> 02:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>something like anointed. You know, Christ means like anointed in oil.

2259
02:31:52.719 --> 02:31:56.159
<v Speaker 2>You can also anoint something in poison. So christing is

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02:31:56.600 --> 02:31:58.120
<v Speaker 2>to apply poison to something.

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<v Speaker 1>And two things that are interesting, right, what? What? What

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02:32:02.120 --> 02:32:05.399
<v Speaker 1>was allegedly Juan looking for the Fountain of Youth four?

2263
02:32:06.000 --> 02:32:07.440
<v Speaker 1>We remember what he was looking.

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02:32:07.200 --> 02:32:10.520
<v Speaker 2>At, his sexual impotency.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, ed yes. And also it's interesting that there's allegedly

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02:32:16.559 --> 02:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of correlation between witches and apples. So

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02:32:20.639 --> 02:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking of maybe this has something to do with

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02:32:22.559 --> 02:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>it where, right, like a witch always has the apple.

2269
02:32:25.639 --> 02:32:29.559
<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting that we give apples to teachers, right,

2270
02:32:29.920 --> 02:32:32.399
<v Speaker 1>So it's like there's like all these different connections that

2271
02:32:32.440 --> 02:32:34.959
<v Speaker 1>you can and threads you can pull that. But yeah,

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02:32:35.040 --> 02:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>one again, that's crazy. I don't know he died from that.

2273
02:32:38.440 --> 02:32:41.639
<v Speaker 1>I knew he died from being injured, but I hadn't.

2274
02:32:41.799 --> 02:32:43.159
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know this connection with.

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02:32:43.200 --> 02:32:46.399
<v Speaker 2>The That's yeah, that's why they couldn't heal him and

2276
02:32:46.440 --> 02:32:48.639
<v Speaker 2>why his pain his death was so agonizing.

2277
02:32:50.120 --> 02:32:50.559
<v Speaker 1>Yikes.

2278
02:32:52.040 --> 02:32:56.079
<v Speaker 2>But you know there's stories of like twenty people dropping

2279
02:32:56.159 --> 02:32:59.719
<v Speaker 2>dead from you know, landing on an island. All the

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02:32:59.719 --> 02:33:02.440
<v Speaker 2>people start eating this tree right away and then they

2281
02:33:02.479 --> 02:33:07.280
<v Speaker 2>all drop dead. The Spanish, you know, we're very aware

2282
02:33:07.319 --> 02:33:12.239
<v Speaker 2>of how deadly this tree was. So that's an option.

2283
02:33:12.319 --> 02:33:13.879
<v Speaker 2>That's a good one for the Tree of Knowledge of

2284
02:33:13.879 --> 02:33:15.920
<v Speaker 2>good and evil, but also.

2285
02:33:15.840 --> 02:33:19.479
<v Speaker 1>More evil on this on this one, more evil, but.

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02:33:19.520 --> 02:33:23.639
<v Speaker 2>Also well they said, you know, if you eat this,

2287
02:33:23.760 --> 02:33:26.440
<v Speaker 2>you'll die. So how many fruits can that be? There

2288
02:33:26.479 --> 02:33:29.799
<v Speaker 2>are actually not that many fruit in the world that

2289
02:33:29.879 --> 02:33:33.239
<v Speaker 2>will kill you or you know, right right away, just

2290
02:33:33.239 --> 02:33:37.840
<v Speaker 2>from me taking one bite. Yeah, the mansion ill can

2291
02:33:38.120 --> 02:33:41.079
<v Speaker 2>So as far as knowledge, I don't know what knowledge

2292
02:33:41.200 --> 02:33:45.639
<v Speaker 2>or wisdom is being granted there, but if you want

2293
02:33:45.639 --> 02:33:47.760
<v Speaker 2>to go down that road, that takes us to what

2294
02:33:47.879 --> 02:33:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I think is the most logical explanation. If this were

2295
02:33:52.920 --> 02:33:56.559
<v Speaker 2>an actual food, an actual fruit or food that was

2296
02:33:56.760 --> 02:34:02.959
<v Speaker 2>ingested and caused the changes described in the Bible, the

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02:34:02.959 --> 02:34:05.000
<v Speaker 2>fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil.

2298
02:34:05.040 --> 02:34:08.879
<v Speaker 2>When even adomated, it's said that their eyes were opened,

2299
02:34:09.639 --> 02:34:16.200
<v Speaker 2>like an epiphany or an awakening or realization. But also

2300
02:34:16.559 --> 02:34:20.879
<v Speaker 2>you can interpret that as pupils quite literally dilating, your

2301
02:34:20.959 --> 02:34:27.879
<v Speaker 2>pupils getting opened. The eyes open, and you see the

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02:34:27.920 --> 02:34:31.239
<v Speaker 2>world like gods. You know, you on a mushroom trip.

2303
02:34:31.280 --> 02:34:35.440
<v Speaker 2>You feel like you are you know, like you have

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02:34:35.559 --> 02:34:39.719
<v Speaker 2>access to hidden information. You know that like a layer

2305
02:34:40.879 --> 02:34:45.879
<v Speaker 2>of obstruction was peeled away from the universe and you

2306
02:34:45.920 --> 02:34:48.920
<v Speaker 2>can see, you know, some of the answers or explanations

2307
02:34:49.319 --> 02:34:55.920
<v Speaker 2>visually and the programming behind reality. And so that's one

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02:34:56.000 --> 02:34:56.520
<v Speaker 2>thing that.

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02:34:58.040 --> 02:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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02:34:58.399 --> 02:35:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Magic mushrooms have been proposed as the fruit of knowledge

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02:35:03.000 --> 02:35:05.719
<v Speaker 2>of good and evil. People say, well, mushrooms aren't fruit.

2312
02:35:06.280 --> 02:35:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes they are, Yes, they are. Mushroom is fruit. It

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02:35:11.840 --> 02:35:14.239
<v Speaker 2>is the fruiting body of the organism. It is the

2314
02:35:14.319 --> 02:35:19.079
<v Speaker 2>sexual apparatus of the organism. That is fruit. That's the

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02:35:19.120 --> 02:35:22.639
<v Speaker 2>biblical definition of fruit, and that's the scientific definition of fruit.

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02:35:23.440 --> 02:35:27.280
<v Speaker 2>And thank you, Juan, that's correct. I didn't come up

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02:35:27.280 --> 02:35:30.239
<v Speaker 2>with this, Terrence McKenna didn't come up with this.

2318
02:35:30.239 --> 02:35:32.760
<v Speaker 1>This has been Tom marko Oleegro talked about it. The

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02:35:32.760 --> 02:35:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Holy Mushroom in the Cross. That was one of the

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02:35:34.799 --> 02:35:35.719
<v Speaker 1>first books I ever read.

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02:35:36.200 --> 02:35:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we sell that book here too. A thousand years

2322
02:35:40.200 --> 02:35:45.719
<v Speaker 2>at least Christians have been painting mushrooms in art from

2323
02:35:45.719 --> 02:35:48.040
<v Speaker 2>the Garden of Eden right up until the Last Supper.

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02:35:49.559 --> 02:35:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Some people point to mushrooms. Again, I'm not fully endorsing

2325
02:35:53.159 --> 02:35:56.079
<v Speaker 2>like this gnostic belief that the only way to understand

2326
02:35:56.120 --> 02:35:59.879
<v Speaker 2>God is mushrooms. Totally not. But as far as what

2327
02:36:00.159 --> 02:36:05.120
<v Speaker 2>set us down the path originally of you know, this

2328
02:36:05.360 --> 02:36:14.399
<v Speaker 2>understanding that goes beyond just harmony with nature, you know, industry, warfare, deception,

2329
02:36:14.719 --> 02:36:18.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, makeup like all these fallen angel technologies or whatever.

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02:36:20.079 --> 02:36:23.399
<v Speaker 2>Mushrooms may have complicated life down here. I'm not saying

2331
02:36:23.399 --> 02:36:27.920
<v Speaker 2>for better or for worse, but complicated and opened up

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02:36:29.920 --> 02:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>the doors of genius that bring knowledge, like it says,

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02:36:35.040 --> 02:36:37.360
<v Speaker 2>but also good and evil. Right, so knowledge of good

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02:36:37.399 --> 02:36:38.600
<v Speaker 2>but also knowledge of evil.

2335
02:36:38.840 --> 02:36:44.319
<v Speaker 1>So have you seen this the psychotria nervosa wild coffee?

2336
02:36:44.360 --> 02:36:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Because I looked up, like, you know, what sort of

2337
02:36:47.479 --> 02:36:51.879
<v Speaker 1>plants or fruits can induce, you know, psychedelic trips, and

2338
02:36:53.079 --> 02:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>this came up, which is known as the Seminole Balsamo. Yeah,

2339
02:36:59.079 --> 02:37:04.079
<v Speaker 1>and apparently it's well, there's reports of d M T

2340
02:37:04.319 --> 02:37:07.479
<v Speaker 1>in the in it, which, Yeah.

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02:37:07.639 --> 02:37:10.680
<v Speaker 2>We also have types of Acacia that are native to Florida,

2342
02:37:11.200 --> 02:37:15.639
<v Speaker 2>and Acasia is in the Bible. People say the burning

2343
02:37:15.680 --> 02:37:16.719
<v Speaker 2>bush was acacia.

2344
02:37:16.959 --> 02:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

2345
02:37:19.840 --> 02:37:24.360
<v Speaker 2>But also we know Florida has plenty of mushrooms. We

2346
02:37:24.440 --> 02:37:27.920
<v Speaker 2>have two of the most popular types of mushrooms three Actually,

2347
02:37:31.079 --> 02:37:37.840
<v Speaker 2>what are they called psilocybin cubensus, So conventional psilocybin mushrooms

2348
02:37:37.000 --> 02:37:42.680
<v Speaker 2>are natives of Florida. It's not just a livestock thing.

2349
02:37:42.719 --> 02:37:45.719
<v Speaker 2>They were here before livestock ever came to Florida. But

2350
02:37:45.799 --> 02:37:48.280
<v Speaker 2>they do grow in the live stock, you know, they

2351
02:37:48.360 --> 02:37:56.120
<v Speaker 2>grow in the poop. But so, Psilocybin cubensus is native

2352
02:37:56.239 --> 02:38:00.000
<v Speaker 2>to Florida, especially the Gulf Coast, so it can grow

2353
02:38:00.120 --> 02:38:08.000
<v Speaker 2>out of the ground naturally. Then we also have Amanita

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02:38:09.520 --> 02:38:16.799
<v Speaker 2>per Amanita persisena, so not mascaria, but Amanita persisena is

2355
02:38:16.840 --> 02:38:20.399
<v Speaker 2>pretty much the exact same thing, except it is orange

2356
02:38:20.520 --> 02:38:24.280
<v Speaker 2>or peach colored instead of red. That's pretty much pretty

2357
02:38:24.360 --> 02:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>much the only differences to oh yeah, oh, the same

2358
02:38:32.040 --> 02:38:34.680
<v Speaker 2>thing is it's the same thing as Amanita muscaria. It's

2359
02:38:34.680 --> 02:38:39.200
<v Speaker 2>the same thing. It's like a slight uh you know,

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02:38:39.719 --> 02:38:50.040
<v Speaker 2>offshoot slight difference, but so yeah, these ones work and

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02:38:50.200 --> 02:38:58.600
<v Speaker 2>uh trust me. Then also we do have another one

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02:38:58.639 --> 02:39:05.319
<v Speaker 2>that's very interesting. Uh, psilocybin Tampa neensus Tampa neiensis.

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02:39:10.000 --> 02:39:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take nesis Tampa.

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02:39:15.440 --> 02:39:17.799
<v Speaker 2>Search psilocybin Tampa and insus.

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02:39:18.280 --> 02:39:23.719
<v Speaker 1>A menstrul cup. Let me look it up. Psilocybin psilocybin

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02:39:26.440 --> 02:39:29.799
<v Speaker 1>tam al right, Tampa tampaensis or.

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02:39:31.840 --> 02:39:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Tampaensas. So yeah, psilocybin tampas is one of you know,

2368
02:39:41.840 --> 02:39:46.319
<v Speaker 2>the mushrooms are not that popular, but uh, psilocybin Tampa

2369
02:39:46.360 --> 02:39:52.040
<v Speaker 2>and ensas produces what they're called sclereta sclera. What does

2370
02:39:52.079 --> 02:39:56.719
<v Speaker 2>it saying somewhere it's it's basically they're like truffles. They're

2371
02:39:56.760 --> 02:40:01.120
<v Speaker 2>truffle like masses that are that grow beneath the ground,

2372
02:40:01.760 --> 02:40:07.479
<v Speaker 2>the truffles, and they're called philosopher's stones. What are the

2373
02:40:07.520 --> 02:40:09.200
<v Speaker 2>odds of that? And this is one of the most

2374
02:40:09.360 --> 02:40:13.799
<v Speaker 2>popular mushrooms. This is one of the most popular mushrooms

2375
02:40:13.879 --> 02:40:17.360
<v Speaker 2>in the world. So this guy found some in Tampa

2376
02:40:18.120 --> 02:40:21.319
<v Speaker 2>in like the sixties or seventies, brought some. They made

2377
02:40:21.360 --> 02:40:25.159
<v Speaker 2>it to the black market, went over to Amsterdam and

2378
02:40:25.280 --> 02:40:29.040
<v Speaker 2>now Philosopher's stone is one of the number one recreational

2379
02:40:29.120 --> 02:40:32.920
<v Speaker 2>mushrooms in the world used today and they come from Tampa, Florida.

2380
02:40:33.200 --> 02:40:39.959
<v Speaker 2>Whoa philosopher's stone. How's that for? Garden of Eden and

2381
02:40:41.440 --> 02:40:43.959
<v Speaker 2>the fruit of knowledge of good and evil?

2382
02:40:44.959 --> 02:40:47.559
<v Speaker 1>So damn, that's great. I didn't know that part. Bro,

2383
02:40:48.559 --> 02:40:51.559
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty it's pretty wild. And again, like how I

2384
02:40:51.600 --> 02:40:54.760
<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier, the Book of Genesis is looked at by

2385
02:40:55.000 --> 02:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>alchemists as the blueprints on how to create the philosopher's.

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02:41:00.959 --> 02:41:06.879
<v Speaker 2>And also not only are these nicknamed philosophers stones, they

2387
02:41:07.040 --> 02:41:13.559
<v Speaker 2>also are evocative or kind of reminiscent of the phoenix,

2388
02:41:14.639 --> 02:41:23.879
<v Speaker 2>so psilocybin tampasis. They can grow and poop, I think,

2389
02:41:24.280 --> 02:41:30.040
<v Speaker 2>but they are actually kind of famous for surviving wildfires,

2390
02:41:30.399 --> 02:41:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Like they pop up after a fire really, so yeah,

2391
02:41:34.239 --> 02:41:38.600
<v Speaker 2>so those those truffles, you know, the Philosopher's stones can

2392
02:41:38.719 --> 02:41:43.079
<v Speaker 2>survive fire, like the whole you know, like a whole

2393
02:41:43.159 --> 02:41:47.000
<v Speaker 2>pine forest will be burned down and the psilocybin tampasa

2394
02:41:47.079 --> 02:41:49.920
<v Speaker 2>survives because of the Philosopher's stone. So it's almost like

2395
02:41:50.000 --> 02:41:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the phoenix mushroom too. They have this relationship with fire

2396
02:41:54.200 --> 02:41:58.120
<v Speaker 2>and forest fires because you know, in Florida, the forests

2397
02:41:59.399 --> 02:42:04.319
<v Speaker 2>burn themselves down like every year on purpose naturally lightning

2398
02:42:04.559 --> 02:42:08.920
<v Speaker 2>tree falls. But so that's a really good candidate for

2399
02:42:09.000 --> 02:42:10.840
<v Speaker 2>the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil if it

2400
02:42:11.000 --> 02:42:18.440
<v Speaker 2>were a literal fruit or food or plant. Yeah.

2401
02:42:24.799 --> 02:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really interesting, dude. I had no idea about this.

2402
02:42:28.719 --> 02:42:30.879
<v Speaker 1>The Philosopher's Stone, that's crazy.

2403
02:42:32.959 --> 02:42:37.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the little Apple of Death, Philosopher's Stone, all the

2404
02:42:37.639 --> 02:42:38.879
<v Speaker 2>different types of mushrooms.

2405
02:42:43.440 --> 02:42:48.319
<v Speaker 1>So it says in nature, sclosia are produced by fungus

2406
02:42:48.399 --> 02:42:51.079
<v Speaker 1>as a rare form of protection from wildfires and other

2407
02:42:51.159 --> 02:43:00.920
<v Speaker 1>natural disasters. That's crazy, dude. M hmm, that's wild. So

2408
02:43:01.159 --> 02:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>what else do we got?

2409
02:43:02.399 --> 02:43:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's also not super related. But the first recreational

2410
02:43:09.840 --> 02:43:14.760
<v Speaker 2>or just legal semi legal mushroom dispensary in America was

2411
02:43:14.840 --> 02:43:16.520
<v Speaker 2>in Tampa too, in Eubore City.

2412
02:43:17.879 --> 02:43:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Really so yeah, I took I took mushrooms one time

2413
02:43:22.879 --> 02:43:24.719
<v Speaker 1>and I saw demons while I was on them, and

2414
02:43:24.799 --> 02:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't take him over again.

2415
02:43:28.719 --> 02:43:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Jeez.

2416
02:43:29.440 --> 02:43:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I actually grew with myself a five live clover.

2417
02:43:34.559 --> 02:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Appreciate you with the with the Dan. This has been

2418
02:43:37.760 --> 02:43:43.239
<v Speaker 1>gifted people memberships every week now. My leaf clover is

2419
02:43:43.440 --> 02:43:47.799
<v Speaker 1>the real O G. I appreciate you, BRO, but yeah,

2420
02:43:47.959 --> 02:43:52.559
<v Speaker 1>I did end up growing my own and it was

2421
02:43:52.840 --> 02:43:56.440
<v Speaker 1>It was one of the weirdest experiences that I think.

2422
02:43:56.479 --> 02:43:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I I think I took it. I think I took

2423
02:43:58.440 --> 02:44:03.360
<v Speaker 1>too much, BRO, took too much, and I was tripping

2424
02:44:03.440 --> 02:44:06.079
<v Speaker 1>my balls off for like twelve hours straight. I woke

2425
02:44:06.159 --> 02:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>up the next morning and I couldn't like differentiate like

2426
02:44:08.840 --> 02:44:12.440
<v Speaker 1>reality and what like this. I was like this weird

2427
02:44:12.559 --> 02:44:17.799
<v Speaker 1>state of like in between like the metaphysical and physical.

2428
02:44:17.879 --> 02:44:17.959
<v Speaker 2>Bro.

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02:44:18.520 --> 02:44:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I I questioned my like my reality like it was

2430
02:44:21.440 --> 02:44:23.520
<v Speaker 1>to that point, I questioned my family, and my family

2431
02:44:23.680 --> 02:44:26.799
<v Speaker 1>was like even real like it was. I was crazy

2432
02:44:27.399 --> 02:44:29.920
<v Speaker 1>it was yeah, yeah I was, and yeah I saw it.

2433
02:44:31.159 --> 02:44:33.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was bad. It was bad. So never I

2434
02:44:34.120 --> 02:44:37.479
<v Speaker 1>I never did it again. And what I actually did

2435
02:44:37.680 --> 02:44:41.239
<v Speaker 1>was I created some I was able to get you

2436
02:44:41.280 --> 02:44:44.559
<v Speaker 1>ever heard of mad honey? Yeah, I was able to

2437
02:44:44.600 --> 02:44:46.680
<v Speaker 1>get some of that. I never tried it. I literally

2438
02:44:46.799 --> 02:44:48.399
<v Speaker 1>bought it and I never tried it. And then what

2439
02:44:48.520 --> 02:44:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I did with my leftovers of the psilocybin was b strain,

2440
02:44:53.799 --> 02:44:56.639
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was. I ended up making what they

2441
02:44:56.680 --> 02:45:01.360
<v Speaker 1>call blue honey, and I mixed it with honey and

2442
02:45:01.440 --> 02:45:04.079
<v Speaker 1>it infuses this, you know, the the sills having in

2443
02:45:04.200 --> 02:45:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the honey, and I would use that sometimes to make

2444
02:45:08.879 --> 02:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>coffee or like put you know, to sweeten my coffee

2445
02:45:11.200 --> 02:45:13.639
<v Speaker 1>up or anything that I was drinking. And at times

2446
02:45:13.719 --> 02:45:16.159
<v Speaker 1>I could tell when I would put a little bit

2447
02:45:16.200 --> 02:45:19.239
<v Speaker 1>too much because things would start, you know, you get

2448
02:45:19.280 --> 02:45:22.280
<v Speaker 1>real hot and you start, like the colors start to

2449
02:45:22.360 --> 02:45:25.040
<v Speaker 1>get a little bit more vivid than usually. Like I

2450
02:45:25.120 --> 02:45:27.799
<v Speaker 1>think I put too big of a spoonful in my

2451
02:45:27.920 --> 02:45:30.079
<v Speaker 1>coffee today because I can feel it. So I was

2452
02:45:30.200 --> 02:45:33.959
<v Speaker 1>essentially I was like microdosing you know, mushrooms for a while,

2453
02:45:34.319 --> 02:45:37.719
<v Speaker 1>but I never took like a full dosage because it

2454
02:45:37.879 --> 02:45:40.159
<v Speaker 1>freaked It freaked me out, dude. I was like hearing

2455
02:45:40.280 --> 02:45:42.200
<v Speaker 1>voices and it. It was like one of the craziest,

2456
02:45:43.000 --> 02:45:47.559
<v Speaker 1>craziest experiences. It was. It was a wild never again,

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02:45:51.879 --> 02:45:56.120
<v Speaker 1>oh man. But yeah, yeah, the colors start buzzing.

2458
02:45:57.440 --> 02:45:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Torn. Tell me more about that sometime.

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02:45:59.440 --> 02:45:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>For so, we went through the different trees. We think

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the tree of life, the trees we think maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the tree of knowledge for good and evil. If you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have any good ideas or recommendations, put them in

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<v Speaker 2>the comments, you know, tell us what you think the

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<v Speaker 2>Tree of life or Tree of Knowledge could be. And yeah, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>go subscribe to Juan on Juan on YouTube if you

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<v Speaker 2>aren't already, and we'll see you next week on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything you want to close with one like my hair,

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<v Speaker 2>bro put that back on, put that back on.

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<v Speaker 1>I look better like this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, we're good.

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<v Speaker 1>All right now, dude, this was is awesome. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be putting to that presentation whenever it's obviously you see,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of material, it's a lot of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different connections. But yeah, this was a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of fun and really enjoyed this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just teasing, man, you can keep your head your

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<v Speaker 2>head off.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's all right, you know, I'm self conscious about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Looks good, No, it looks good. But uh, all right, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>stay tuned. We'll see this coming Thursday. Probably all right,

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<v Speaker 2>audios later, Yeah, yeah, h.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow indeed, wow indeed yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe not am I'm a wow ety yank.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm going crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Came really empty and that boy gazy, I just you're

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<v Speaker 3>a player.

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<v Speaker 1>You can never play.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta ask so fat. Then let's make a baby

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<v Speaker 3>and another one. Then I'm back to the Trump and

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<v Speaker 3>Tron double song and hit bad Woke Chick and our.

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<v Speaker 1>Love a tongue with some jurisdiction.

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<v Speaker 3>Boys, we some one of one. Look, don'tcle bring into

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<v Speaker 3>no Martin dog. I'm like milcaelm metts that yop by

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<v Speaker 3>our freedom. We fever cracks round number claws. Boy. You

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<v Speaker 3>know we crapping text Chucky dog Town play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Nigga has his next.

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<v Speaker 4>Open up the cans just like Arizona, Arizona pull up.

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<v Speaker 3>Man stuff like we got the wrong skill.

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<v Speaker 1>We set up.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerviisdictions when we brought cone up.

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<v Speaker 2>How you claiming that's your hood?

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<v Speaker 3>You knocked the owner the big I just pulled up

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<v Speaker 3>in aneath of speed for you the land. Tell the

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<v Speaker 3>colling nogs that they need to leave wild Indie end

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<v Speaker 3>up in my bands.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how we bleed.

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<v Speaker 3>You ain't got a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lie about who he is? Dog just keeping g We

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<v Speaker 2>have wark.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't keep the peace since we have warf.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotta keep the pase like a con.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I met a tee.

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<v Speaker 3>Should I need to breathe keep a o make head

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<v Speaker 3>when we slide Uncle's sheep like my niggas sitweet his sheets.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't keep the beece. If they pop off, then

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<v Speaker 3>I want a piece. I'm just some release. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>go mo, motherfucker thief in these streets like e BT

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<v Speaker 3>when we will make peace with me, I don't give

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<v Speaker 3>a damn understand fuck coustole this land, white up, black

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<v Speaker 3>or tan.

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<v Speaker 2>Understand this fuck houstoles.

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<v Speaker 3>LAMB might have seen to get a little bud of

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<v Speaker 3>these hands, it wouldn't no abo man. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>these dudes is sambo man. They full of ship like

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<v Speaker 3>my Ammo. Can what they call it n work out

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<v Speaker 3>the wrong mouth as an ambulance while Indy get it

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<v Speaker 3>in advance or you can postate it after the most

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<v Speaker 3>hated straight sacred. They stole acres you know ape shit

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<v Speaker 3>show waite ship, it won't.

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<v Speaker 2>Be tell avised.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't take the ship I just pulled.

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<v Speaker 2>Please,
