Speaker 1: Yeah, hell drug. Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 2: What's up, y'all? How's it going? Happy Thursday?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Talking the Bible and Florida, specifically the Book of Genesis
Speaker 2: and the Garden of Eden in Florida, which I know
Speaker 2: we've talked about quite a bit on this channel. But
Speaker 2: you know, Juan and I were talking and Huan's had
Speaker 2: some questions about the Gopher Wood recently, and we've been tackling,
Speaker 2: you know, some esoteric Florida history, and so we thought
Speaker 2: we would reapproach the question if the Garden of Eden
Speaker 2: was in Florida, then where or what are the Tree
Speaker 2: of Life and the Tree of knowledge of good and evil?
Speaker 2: So that's what we're gonna be talking about tonight. We've
Speaker 2: got some great stuff planned. What's up, Huan, teitor?
Speaker 1: Why'd I have to Why do I have to be
Speaker 1: the black guy on the Miami Vice intro? Why can't
Speaker 1: you be the black guy and me the white guy?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 2: Is he black? To you? One?
Speaker 1: Is he black? Is he? No?
Speaker 2: S Negato Dominican?
Speaker 1: Miami No, No, No, that sounds too close. Relax. So
Speaker 1: what's the guy's name.
Speaker 2: The Well, there's Don John's.
Speaker 1: Rico, all right, Rico and here's the actor's name. The
Speaker 1: actor's name for Ricos are Cardo Tubbs.
Speaker 2: Right, No, that no, that's his character. Oh Rico short for.
Speaker 1: His name is Phillips Michael Thomas.
Speaker 2: Yes, yep, there you go. So long time vegetarian by
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah? All right? So yes he is black.
Speaker 2: So no, he's Caribbean. Okay, just like you so close enough?
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, close enough. I guess I'll let it slide. Slide.
Speaker 2: He's he pretends to be like the Haman. I think
Speaker 2: so hyena ish, not so far off.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched the show. Did we ever watch an
Speaker 1: episode of No, we were going to well, Puerto Ricans
Speaker 1: are always late to everything, so are they? Oh yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: hundred percent. It's like what time are you on? Puerto
Speaker 1: Rican time or Gringo time? And Puerto Ricans are always late.
Speaker 1: So I'm used to it. It's not it's not a
Speaker 1: big o ideal, but yes, I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1: We were kind of, you know, along the same line
Speaker 1: of thought that we've been talking about these past few
Speaker 1: weeks about Florida. Right, that's always been the topic, right, Florida,
Speaker 1: Old World history, things of that nature, and it still
Speaker 1: blows my mind that where the gopher wood is found
Speaker 1: is around that right the fag border, the Florida and
Speaker 1: Georgia border in that area, and that still blows my mind.
Speaker 1: So it's like it specifically says in the Book of
Speaker 1: Genesis like that the gopher would and it wouldn't make
Speaker 1: any other sense for it to be in some other
Speaker 1: place if the wood isn't there. It's very specific. So
Speaker 1: that part still blows my mind. And we were talking
Speaker 1: today and I have a presentation that I've been talking
Speaker 1: about for a long time that I'm gonna do and
Speaker 1: I haven't gone around to doing it. That involves palm trees, alchemy,
Speaker 1: the Book of Genesis, things of that nature, and I
Speaker 1: think it ties kind of in to what we talk about.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting once you start looking at the palm
Speaker 1: tree how much you start to see it over and
Speaker 1: over and over again. So I want to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about that today. Obviously, Genesis, Garden, Eden, Florida,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And I'm ready, bro, or are you
Speaker 1: sniffing there? What is it?
Speaker 2: Just some poppers want to work. No, it's a rosemary oil.
Speaker 1: What is it supposed to do? It's supposed to calm
Speaker 1: you down. Active. Oh, he's activating, But you were sitting
Speaker 1: on some other stuff earlier. Huh some other type of Rosemary.
Speaker 2: The hell are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Talking about before the show pre show activities. That's why
Speaker 1: you're always late, bro, Oh you mean the electric lettuce.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm you know, yeah, I might indulge in that
Speaker 2: time to time.
Speaker 1: From the time of time. Yeah, check out the spy
Speaker 1: that I made, Bro. I made this two years ago.
Speaker 2: Speaking of trees. Okay, uh ay, this is a pretty
Speaker 2: cool background here. See this one second.
Speaker 1: Bro, I made this presentation like two years ago. You
Speaker 1: put me on there, of course, Bro, this is when
Speaker 1: this is before you transition.
Speaker 2: Due, before I transitioned. Yeah, what from van life to
Speaker 2: house life?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, actually.
Speaker 2: That's what really happened.
Speaker 1: All right, right, here we go, All right, where do
Speaker 1: you want to start before we get into all that?
Speaker 1: Where weah? Why are we not on screen? Here? We are?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? There we go?
Speaker 1: So the what does the og callaway say about this? Because, right,
Speaker 1: the Garden of Eden for people, the tree of knowledge
Speaker 1: of good and evil, there's various stories around it. There's
Speaker 1: various ideas. The Garden of Ena was a more of
Speaker 1: a metaphysical thing. Some of the people can talk about
Speaker 1: it actually being a physical place that you know, can
Speaker 1: actually be gone to. Uh So I've heard some people
Speaker 1: talk about being a state of mind, right, the innocence
Speaker 1: of that time, et cetera, et cetera. What is callaway
Speaker 1: the og who talked about the Garden of n being
Speaker 1: in Florida, What did he propose that the Garden of
Speaker 1: Ena was and where all the you know, the tree
Speaker 1: of life, all this other stuff with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so tree of life I might need to drag
Speaker 2: my memory on. Yeah, I don't think he dives too
Speaker 2: deep on it. But for the tree of knowledge of
Speaker 2: good and evil, for the fruit forbidden fruit, the poison apple,
Speaker 2: he definitely supports more of like a symbolic interpretation. He
Speaker 2: believes that the fruit of knowledge of good and evil
Speaker 2: is free will itself. So the first decision to go
Speaker 2: against one of God's clear instructions was man's decision to
Speaker 2: engage in free will, you know to Yeah, and he
Speaker 2: says that, yes, it was woman who he kind of
Speaker 2: takes a feminist approach to be honest. He says, woman
Speaker 2: like Eve, mother, Eve was braver than Atam or willing to,
Speaker 2: you know, deviate from the plan. And he says something
Speaker 2: along the lines of she should be applauded for that
Speaker 2: great decision that the conditions of Eden were not proper
Speaker 2: to man's man and woman's soul. So he kind of
Speaker 2: has like a little bit of a gnostic approach or
Speaker 2: like a dare I say, a Luciferian interpretation, which I
Speaker 2: don't mean Luciferian in like the Illuminati, oh, Satanism, everything's
Speaker 2: evil sense, you know, Luciferianism is or just kind of
Speaker 2: venerating lucifer or free will or liberty above other things.
Speaker 2: That's that's what I qualify as lucifer Luciferianism is placing
Speaker 2: liberty above truth, placing free will above you know, following
Speaker 2: God's plan. But it shouldn't really surprise us too much
Speaker 2: because LV. Edison Callaway was a Freemason and a shriner,
Speaker 2: so he may have been influenced by some movement, by
Speaker 2: some of their interpretations. So you know, when you peel
Speaker 2: back some layers on some of these hermetic orders they
Speaker 2: do they they think they have a refined understanding of
Speaker 2: lucifer That well, it's okay if everyone thinks he's the
Speaker 2: bad guy, but we really know he's the good guy.
Speaker 2: And I don't endorse all of that, but you know,
Speaker 2: I think you have to kind of eventually see where
Speaker 2: they're coming from when you when you study enough of
Speaker 2: this stuff, right, secret societies, and so I don't know
Speaker 2: if that's you know, what influenced his perspective on it,
Speaker 2: but he basically said, Mother Eve made the right decision.
Speaker 2: And and I.
Speaker 1: Think some people too, that writer are against religion will
Speaker 1: take that side just because it goes against the mainstream, right,
Speaker 1: So everybody loves God, so therefore they're gonna hate it,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna do the opposite, and they're gonna be
Speaker 1: more Luciferian and look towards that side, right the Satanic temple,
Speaker 1: things of that nature, where they're like, oh, yeah, we
Speaker 1: don't worship the devil. We just like to live right
Speaker 1: and like have this sort of free will and things
Speaker 1: like that. And one of the interesting things about the
Speaker 1: story of In the Garden Union is that depending on
Speaker 1: which interpretation you read it can in the gnostic sense
Speaker 1: it was about the demi urge. They so Sophia flies
Speaker 1: down as an eagle, and or she's as a serpent
Speaker 1: one of the two, and she tells you to eat
Speaker 1: from the tree of knowledge of good and evils so
Speaker 1: that they can learn that they're in this matrix controlled
Speaker 1: by the demi urge out of the Bayouth at the time, right,
Speaker 1: because in the Gnostic sense, the devil character sort of
Speaker 1: created reality and put man in it and made him
Speaker 1: from himself because he was jealous essentially, where he wants
Speaker 1: to be a creator. So again, and that kind of
Speaker 1: perverts and inverts everything. But there's just different interpretations of
Speaker 1: it of like, hey, what was the Garden of Eden scene,
Speaker 1: which is really interesting because how you talked about these
Speaker 1: two polar opposites. The alchemists saw it as like breaking
Speaker 1: down right from the alchemical process, breaking and separating the
Speaker 1: two halves. Because what I really one of my favorite
Speaker 1: aspects of this whole thing is the alchemical interpretation of
Speaker 1: the Book of Genesis because they saw it as the
Speaker 1: blueprints to create the Philosopher's Stone. They saw it as
Speaker 1: there because they look at God as the great architect
Speaker 1: of the great alchemist, right, and the watchers. The watchers
Speaker 1: are watching the great alchemists at work create and uncreate reality.
Speaker 1: So and that's where you got, you got the Book
Speaker 1: of Enoch. Zoe is the most of Panopolist, which was
Speaker 1: one of the earliest alchemists. He was he loved the
Speaker 1: Book of Enoch. And in the Book of Enoch, right,
Speaker 1: the Nephilum alchemy comes from the Nephilum, so it's the
Speaker 1: it's the forbidden art. So it kind of gives it
Speaker 1: like this interdimensional demonic connotation where it was used for
Speaker 1: it was passed down from the watchers or the Nephilm
Speaker 1: and and all these things. Uh, it gives it a
Speaker 1: supernatural origin. So but yeah, I see where you're coming from.
Speaker 1: And I think some people would go with the more
Speaker 1: Luciferian route because just because because it's cool, right, metal,
Speaker 1: it's awesome, And yeah, I want to bring up here
Speaker 1: this picture or go ahead and we'll bring up I
Speaker 1: want to bring up this picture in a little bit
Speaker 1: because it's got a different because the tree. Everyone when
Speaker 1: they think of the Garden of Eden, they think about
Speaker 1: an apple, right, But it was never specifically said that
Speaker 1: it was an apple. Right, it wasn't an apple tree.
Speaker 2: That's a great place to start.
Speaker 1: So was it an orange? Was it a golden apple?
Speaker 1: Golden apple is kind of like a like an orange,
Speaker 1: right or was it something else? And that's where we
Speaker 1: get into right, I'll let you start and then we
Speaker 1: can get into the palm tree stuff a little bit too.
Speaker 2: Right. So as you were talking, I was trying to
Speaker 2: check what E. Calloway wrote about the Tree of Life,
Speaker 2: because I remember what he said about the tree of
Speaker 2: knowledge of good and evil. But you know, and he said,
Speaker 2: just real quick before we get into that, he said,
Speaker 2: and we all eat of the fruit of knowledge of
Speaker 2: good and evil right up until this day. So he's
Speaker 2: not like endorsing it whatever, It's more just like I
Speaker 2: don't know. He's all right, So now the Tree of Life?
Speaker 1: Is this the only video.
Speaker 2: Clips someone's working here?
Speaker 1: Very bad? Yeah, I was probably another homeless man. Or
Speaker 1: did somebody order him pizza and put his address. I
Speaker 1: think that's happened like twice while we've been on air.
Speaker 1: Somebody's bottomed pizza and they have it delivered to the store.
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering if I want to pull up a
Speaker 1: video of Callaway, but I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: the only video of him talking about the biblical garden
Speaker 1: of Eden and he says it's in Traya State, Park.
Speaker 1: So like the fact that he points out an actual
Speaker 1: place that you could go to, which we should probably
Speaker 1: do a meet up there one day. I think we're
Speaker 1: a long overdue for a meetup. I have to talk
Speaker 1: too long ago about that. But where is this place?
Speaker 1: This is by Danced Farest by Tallahassee. So let's wait
Speaker 1: for we pull it up here, we wait for long
Speaker 1: Ago to fight that homeless man that knocked on the door.
Speaker 1: So Toyo State Park, thirteen thousand acres, Florida State Park,
Speaker 1: United States. It is located north of Bristol. And this
Speaker 1: is where he says it's at. And I want to
Speaker 1: play this video of Callaway talking about it. And mister
Speaker 1: Calwie recites passages from the Bible that describe the mystical
Speaker 1: garden and compares them to features along the Appalachicola River.
Speaker 1: He tests that two features of the land scape prove
Speaker 1: his claim. The first is that the app apalachic Cola
Speaker 1: River is the only river in the world with four heads.
Speaker 1: The second is the presence of gopher wood of the
Speaker 1: gopher wood tree, which Noah used to build the arc.
Speaker 1: According to Calaway, the Bible claims that both elements were
Speaker 1: unique to the legendary garden and they are unique to
Speaker 1: Terrea State Park. So it looks like long Ago won
Speaker 1: that fight with the homeless man. What did the homeless
Speaker 1: guy want? Bro?
Speaker 2: It wasn't a homeless guy, but it was the store
Speaker 2: next door or across the street who I told to
Speaker 2: be quiet earlier. So they came back to apologize.
Speaker 1: So that's nice. Great people. I was gonna ask you, bro,
Speaker 1: is this the only video of Callaway talking or is
Speaker 1: there more video?
Speaker 2: I believe so, so it's the only thing. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: gave a interview for like a oral history project or
Speaker 2: something that's that's out there somewhere. He wrote one book
Speaker 2: and then he wrote in the Beginning, So he wrote
Speaker 2: the Other Side of the South in the beginning, and
Speaker 2: then he wrote many newspaper articles as a commentator, you know,
Speaker 2: he'd respond to things. He was a well known guy
Speaker 2: in Florida for a long time. But he was a freemason,
Speaker 2: Yes he was. He I think he said he was
Speaker 2: a master Mason and you have to be one to
Speaker 2: become a shriner.
Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, and I was just talking about that.
Speaker 1: He talks about it being an actual place that you
Speaker 1: can technically we could go Visy right now, we wanted
Speaker 1: to write like we can go here and walk around
Speaker 1: where he claims that the garden was at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of places you can go. There's
Speaker 2: Terrea State Park, there's the Garden of Eden Trail, which
Speaker 2: is like a separate park. And the whole appalachical A
Speaker 2: River area is pretty much the area he's talking about.
Speaker 2: And that that fa g region, you know, so a
Speaker 2: little bit of Alabama, a little bit of Georgia. Yeah,
Speaker 2: every lake Seminole, you know, is a popular fishing spot.
Speaker 2: So much agriculture comes out of that area. I mean
Speaker 2: that that is one of the bread baskets and like
Speaker 2: you know, agricultural powerhouses of America's South Georgia, North Florida.
Speaker 2: Right over there corn one of the peanuts. They do
Speaker 2: a lot of satsuma, some other stuff.
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the interesting things because you
Speaker 1: see and let me find it here. So speaking of freemasonry,
Speaker 1: there is the symbol of the beehive in freemasonry, right,
Speaker 1: And what's interesting about the beehive is that I've seen
Speaker 1: this around where the bee is one of the only
Speaker 1: I guess and you can call it an animal that
Speaker 1: left unchanged from the Garden of Eden. Right, So I've
Speaker 1: heard that before, and I'm like, you know why why
Speaker 1: these people and by these people, I'm talking about these
Speaker 1: secret societies and these secret circles. They use these symbols
Speaker 1: for a reason. Now, is it because they want to
Speaker 1: tap into that energy? Blah blah blah. That's all speculation,
Speaker 1: but they for a reason what it represents? And what
Speaker 1: if one of those reasons for using the bee and
Speaker 1: then obviously the concept of the we talked about this
Speaker 1: and we were we talked about the bee keepers living
Speaker 1: the longest being one of the occupations that they they
Speaker 1: lived the longest because of the frequencies. Right.
Speaker 2: We did a whole episode on Yulie's Gold.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: The movie set in kind of that area, not not
Speaker 2: super close, but more or less, and that was all
Speaker 2: about the Tupelo honey and Callaway. So there were no
Speaker 2: honey bees in America before Columbus allegedly, okay, maybe in
Speaker 2: some distant ancient time, but Columbus, sorry Callaway, believed that
Speaker 2: there were beehives like fossilized beehives in that Garden of
Speaker 2: Eden area apolectrical and when the Mormons came around and
Speaker 2: started coming up with some of their theories. Well, Joseph
Speaker 2: Smith was long before Callaway, but afterwards they started trying
Speaker 2: to figure out where did these characters in the Book
Speaker 2: of Mormon land. One of the top locations proposed locations
Speaker 2: for where did the Mormons, you know, the ancient Israelites
Speaker 2: land in America? The Apalachicola River. This guy Wayne May,
Speaker 2: who's a really good researcher, amateur archaeologist. I don't use
Speaker 2: amateur disparagingly. Maybe he's not amateur, I don't know, but
Speaker 2: he's definitely counter you know, more publishment. Yeah, exactly. He's
Speaker 2: off the mainstream. So but he makes good, really good presentations,
Speaker 2: Wayne May, really good stuff. If you ever want to
Speaker 2: give the Mormon history a chance. Wayne May is pretty cool.
Speaker 2: And he goes through like the Hopewell culture and all
Speaker 2: this stuff. So he he points to and some other
Speaker 2: proponents of that theory. They point to Lehi Nephi Layman
Speaker 2: landing in the same river that E. Callaway says, the
Speaker 2: Gopher Wood and Noah's ark took off from What are
Speaker 2: the odds of that? And Wayne May doesn't know anything
Speaker 2: about that, I mean, not to my knowledge. He's never
Speaker 2: talked about it or tied it into his theory. The
Speaker 2: Mormons would end up buying Did I ever tell you that?
Speaker 2: Did I ever tell you about John Klug?
Speaker 1: No? It doesn't really.
Speaker 2: Well, look up him real quick, John Klug.
Speaker 1: Please spell his last name k l u g E
Speaker 1: German American entrepreneur.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, go to's Wikipedia. Okay. So John Klug was
Speaker 2: at one time the richest man in America, the wealthiest man.
Speaker 2: He was on Forbes richest you know, for multiple years
Speaker 2: in a row. Now in the nineties was the peak
Speaker 2: of his wealth. Late eighties, early nineties, I believe, But
Speaker 2: in Callaway's day. So Callaway started talking about the Garden
Speaker 2: of Eden in the fifties, late fifties. He put out
Speaker 2: his book nineteen sixty six, and then he kept developing,
Speaker 2: you know, kept working on his theories, but he never
Speaker 2: really added or got much more information out there. His
Speaker 2: book in the beginning was very small and no many
Speaker 2: were printed at all, very hard to come by. But
Speaker 2: he ran almost like a tourist attraction at the Garden
Speaker 2: of Eden. E. Calloway, And he put signs up, he
Speaker 2: made claims in newspapers, He challenged people made all these
Speaker 2: challenges to all these you know, doubters, deniers, naysayers, saying,
Speaker 2: if you can, you know, disprove these theories, I'll pack
Speaker 2: up and close shop, you know, and I'll sell the land.
Speaker 2: John Klug heard about Callaway's claims. John Klug was very religious.
Speaker 2: You know, somewhere in there'll say what church you belonged to?
Speaker 2: But he took it very seriously. Now, John Klug, when
Speaker 2: he heard about Callaway's theories, he challenged Callaway and said,
Speaker 2: he John Klug, who had become the richest man in America.
Speaker 2: He was already wealthy back then. He hired a team
Speaker 2: of experts, a team of experts, I imagine they were archaeologists, historians,
Speaker 2: biblical scholars, and he hired them to disprove Callaway. Now
Speaker 2: this isn't in the book. Nobody knows about this. I
Speaker 2: had to dig deep to find this out. John Klug
Speaker 2: challenged him, hired a team of experts to disprove him.
Speaker 2: And they go off and John Kluch said, you guys,
Speaker 2: as much time as you need, as much money as
Speaker 2: you need, whatever to shut this guy up. Because John
Speaker 2: Klug was kind of interpreting this as heretical he was saying,
Speaker 2: who is this guy to say, oh, you know, the
Speaker 2: Bible's wrong. That's where a lot of people misinterpret this theory.
Speaker 2: They say, Okay, if you're saying the garden of eads
Speaker 2: in Florida, you're saying the Bible's wrong. Not really, we
Speaker 2: have to hear Callaway's reasoning out first to understand he
Speaker 2: doesn't say that, because the only thing that can confuse
Speaker 2: that is the name of the rivers Euphrates, Tigris or
Speaker 2: the High Decale. I think is the Tigris and they
Speaker 2: Pyson and the Gihon. Only two of those are over
Speaker 2: in the Middle East today for certain. But when did
Speaker 2: they get those names? As we all know, when people
Speaker 2: get off a boat, they take the names that they
Speaker 2: came with with them. So places that were very close
Speaker 2: together in England are now spread out very far. The
Speaker 2: same names are spread out very far in America, Australia.
Speaker 2: You know names like Elizabeth, Virginia, you name it right,
Speaker 2: so or you know even just like what are some
Speaker 2: more conventional British names that are like uh, Edinburgh, you
Speaker 2: know British names in America, British name Muhammad at the top.
Speaker 1: But bro, my sister just moved to the UK a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago.
Speaker 2: You should, yeah, you should rename yourself to one kalug.
Speaker 1: What this clue guy? But what what was his idea that,
Speaker 1: you know, strict hardcore Bible. What it says it's where
Speaker 1: attack even though it's very it's not. It doesn't one
Speaker 1: hundred percent, one hundred percent say exactly where it was, right.
Speaker 1: It doesn't say it was an apple tree. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that are open for interpretation.
Speaker 2: Right. People interpret the names of the rivers to be
Speaker 2: concrete evidence that. Okay, the garden of veans in Iraq,
Speaker 2: it's never moved, it's always been there. But that wasn't
Speaker 2: always the case. Those names were not tied down to
Speaker 2: those regions. I'm not going to say recently, but certainly
Speaker 2: not in distant biblical times. So after the Crusades, for example,
Speaker 2: everyone had pretty much made their mind up and was
Speaker 2: pretty much convinced, Yeah, there's no garden of eton in
Speaker 2: the Middle East. Okay, Now, after like almost a thousand years,
Speaker 2: people are forgotten about that, and we've started romanticizing and
Speaker 2: politicizing the Middle East again, and there's a big agenda
Speaker 2: to get people to get Americans and Westerners to invest
Speaker 2: you know, theologically in the Middle East, like not just Jerusalem,
Speaker 2: but now we've pushed it over into Iraq too. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, one of the big significances of the Iraq
Speaker 2: War was he had all these hillbillies from America who
Speaker 2: are Christian, literally like trampling over what they've been told
Speaker 2: is the Garden of Eden, the Euphrates River, you know,
Speaker 2: the this and that, like that whole region. So if
Speaker 2: that were not the real Garden of Eden, how many
Speaker 2: how many American soldiers would have really went over there
Speaker 2: to fight in Iraq if that place had no biblical
Speaker 2: significance whatsoever. So the Garden of Eden played at least
Speaker 2: some role in the messianic kind of element or like
Speaker 2: the well.
Speaker 1: You think it made them want to.
Speaker 2: Go scatology, like the eschatology or the a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: some people. And if you ever watch like in Iraq
Speaker 2: War or Gulf War documentary, you'll see soldiers being like, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: this is Abraham crossed these rivers. Yeah, we and humbies
Speaker 2: crossing them. And then they're like then they're like, yeah, sergeant,
Speaker 2: should we really be dropping bombs on the Garden of Eden?
Speaker 1: Like, but it's it's sort of I mean jokes like
Speaker 1: check because check this guy out right with this guy
Speaker 1: During World War two, Kluge served at the secret po
Speaker 1: box one one forward to interrogation. This was a fet bro.
Speaker 1: This dude was a And it feels it feels kind
Speaker 1: of targeted in a way and almost like like a
Speaker 1: sy op to make people believe it's over there right
Speaker 1: how you're saying, because this this is new to me
Speaker 1: where they felt proud of going over there of Abraham
Speaker 1: Crossy and here we are in a hum be Like
Speaker 1: that's brainwashing at its best, to want to make them
Speaker 1: right and want to make people fight because you said,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I thought, if it you know, it's
Speaker 1: the garden even let's not go over there and do
Speaker 1: any of that. But it's the other way around. It's like,
Speaker 1: O what it is, So let's go over there even
Speaker 1: more and go harder because and one of the I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna bring this up. So one of the right,
Speaker 1: you have the tengu right. And one of the things
Speaker 1: I tried to my dad is real red leaning right,
Speaker 1: very very real. And I started telling him about the
Speaker 1: tengu right and the corruption and everything else that's associated
Speaker 1: with it, even though I'm not antiseptic by any means.
Speaker 1: I think I've I've met some tang or the nicest
Speaker 1: tengu I've ever met in my life. Right, they would
Speaker 1: give me the shirt off their backs if they could.
Speaker 1: But when I started telling him a little bit about
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, you do know there's like a group
Speaker 1: of people that don't like them. He's like, what do
Speaker 1: you mean that they don't like them? But they're they're
Speaker 1: the Chosen people, right, And I'm like, yeah, but do
Speaker 1: you wonder why maybe they were kicked out so many times? Like,
Speaker 1: once you start getting kicked out over and over and
Speaker 1: over again, you can't just say it's persecution. They're trying
Speaker 1: to take it's time because with the Chosen people, it's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: you might be a problem, right, So when I tried
Speaker 1: to nail that down to him, he was like, no,
Speaker 1: but you can't that terrosy, you can't. So there's like
Speaker 1: these two levels of brainwashing right where it's like where
Speaker 1: do you stand? And he couldn't believe that part. But
Speaker 1: here I am, because again I'm part of the conspiracy
Speaker 1: crowd that we're in this sort of Listen.
Speaker 2: I think this pot's making you a little aggressive.
Speaker 1: No, I'm sober, dude. I haven't smoked pine like two years.
Speaker 2: And that was eyes wide shot quote.
Speaker 1: It's like, listen, guess what, dude, We're gonna do something.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're overdue for. We're all we do for
Speaker 1: two things. We're we do for a meet up. All right,
Speaker 1: let's pick a full moon to have a meet up.
Speaker 1: And we're overdue for an in person podcast. And when
Speaker 1: I go down, Bro, we're gonna blaze up. All right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna smoke a bowl.
Speaker 2: Let's just relax one. This pod is making you aggressive.
Speaker 1: Aggressive, bro, it's making you an antiseptic.
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. You're the THEO on. I'm
Speaker 2: the Joe Rogan to your theater.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you're crazy, dude. I gotta get off those meds.
Speaker 1: I wish I was taking somebody the Yeah. What this
Speaker 1: is interesting that this guy went out of his way
Speaker 1: to disprove Callaway on something not not trivial, but something
Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't even think twice about. Right,
Speaker 1: But here this guy is going out of his way,
Speaker 1: almost sort of coordinated by this. It's a conspiracy, right.
Speaker 2: Well, and we'll hang on Huan Okay, because the story
Speaker 2: turns out pretty in a pretty interesting way. Now Calloway
Speaker 2: made the claims, I almost called him Huan Klug, tried
Speaker 2: to try to disprove him, and he hired the team
Speaker 2: of experts to study and what they found. Okay, they
Speaker 2: took a couple months at least, maybe more than that,
Speaker 2: but he told them as much time as you need,
Speaker 2: as much money as you need, I'm gonna fund it.
Speaker 2: So it's almost like a Indiana Jones type thing. And
Speaker 2: he says, well, the team comes back to him after
Speaker 2: months of research, Okay, they took their hat off, and
Speaker 2: they're like, mister Klug, we regret to inform you that
Speaker 2: not only were we unable to disprove Calaba's evidence, he
Speaker 2: has more evidence, more convincing evidence in Florida than all
Speaker 2: the Middle East combined.
Speaker 1: Yikes.
Speaker 2: Not for Biblical history or not Hebrew history. Okay, we
Speaker 2: know that's in the Middle East. We're not saying that's wrong,
Speaker 2: but Garden of Eden history, things like the gopher would
Speaker 2: things like all the biblical plant species being found in
Speaker 2: one spot, all the animals. You know, you can branch
Speaker 2: off and talk about Atlantis and Afalatch like we did
Speaker 2: last time. Like all these rumors of this paradise to
Speaker 2: the West kind of line up, but from the biblical perspective,
Speaker 2: they said. Mister Klug's team said, mister Klug, we know
Speaker 2: you just dumped all this money into the into this.
Speaker 2: We know we really looked, we really tried, and we
Speaker 2: cannot definitively disprove his claims. He actually has more evidence
Speaker 2: in this one little spot in Florida than they do
Speaker 2: in all of Iraq and Iran. So John Klug, what
Speaker 2: do you think he did after that? He bought the
Speaker 2: Garden of Eden.
Speaker 1: No, he purchased it.
Speaker 2: He bought as much of it as he could and
Speaker 2: held on to it for about ten years, with Callaway
Speaker 2: and him, you know, helping each other. Callaway was kind
Speaker 2: of almost like a tour guide or an educator who
Speaker 2: worked there, and Klug took it over. Nobody knows about
Speaker 2: this very little information, And maybe you can go through
Speaker 2: like you know, Juan, I'd love if you could help
Speaker 2: me out finding like land and transfers, you know, history
Speaker 2: or records if you can. But I've found this through
Speaker 2: newspaper articles and you know, we know that, we know
Speaker 2: that it happened, but I'd be happy to get more specifics.
Speaker 2: John Klug purchased as much of the Garden of Eden
Speaker 2: as he could. Calloways helped him, you know, for about
Speaker 2: another ten years. Callaway died in nineteen eighty nine around there,
Speaker 2: and now we're at like nineteen seventy six, almost eighty six,
Speaker 2: you know, closer to eighty six now. So Callaway was
Speaker 2: ready to retire. He was already super old in like
Speaker 2: the sixties and seventies. So so John Klug, John Klug
Speaker 2: just real quick sold it to who Who do you
Speaker 2: think John Klug sold it to? Who do you think
Speaker 2: bought the Garden of Eden after him?
Speaker 1: I don't know. So Bill Gates who.
Speaker 2: The Mormon Church ld LDS Latter day.
Speaker 1: Saints, which they own a lot of land in Florida.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to this day, they're a lot of the largest
Speaker 2: largest landowner in Florida, private.
Speaker 1: Landowner in Florida, a lot of land.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have some big ranches in Florida.
Speaker 1: But why would he do that if if it kind
Speaker 1: of went against his his relief, He started out kind
Speaker 1: of combative, try to prove him. They became they became
Speaker 1: best buddies, They became friends. Is that that's how Cali
Speaker 1: was able to kind of chill out. Was he a
Speaker 1: Mason too.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think he was a Mason.
Speaker 2: John Klug, he I think he was just honestly convinced.
Speaker 2: He paid this team to disprove Callaway. They told him
Speaker 2: what they found. You know, I don't think any of
Speaker 2: them signed on to Callaway's theory, but they said, we
Speaker 2: can't disprove it. There's nothing he's saying. That's that ridiculous.
Speaker 2: You know, Noah came from somewhere and eventually Callawei must
Speaker 2: have convinced John Klug, the richest man in America, eventually
Speaker 2: to purchase the Garden of Eden in Florida. He held
Speaker 2: on to it for like ten years. The Mormons had
Speaker 2: it for like ten years maybe, and then it went
Speaker 2: to the state. And it's like, you know, Terrea State
Speaker 2: Park is a state park, the Garden of Eden Trail.
Speaker 2: It's operated by this like land conservation company, but it's
Speaker 2: protected land. You know, it's like owned by the state
Speaker 2: or stewarded by some private company for the state something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: They own over six hundred and seventy nine thousand acres, bro,
Speaker 1: which is a lot of acreage, and it's about roughly
Speaker 1: two percent of Florida's total total land mass. So it's interesting,
Speaker 1: right because you know, but another part of me, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the Garden of Eden and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I was in Florida. But also why is there so
Speaker 1: much destruction? Like I know, we were going to do
Speaker 1: that one documentary about the phosphate mining and all this
Speaker 1: pollution too, that's in Florida. Where are they able to
Speaker 1: do that because it's this great place, right that has
Speaker 1: so much to offer? Or are they doing it just
Speaker 1: because Like again, I mean, if you think about it,
Speaker 1: think about it, the phosphate industry, Florida provides. How much phosphate?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Florida fertilizes much of the Western hemisphere.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's to the world though, bro, So how
Speaker 1: much of it does Florida provide? Though? Let me look
Speaker 1: it up. So Florida provides about a quarter twenty five
Speaker 1: percent of the world's phosphate demand and roughly seventy five
Speaker 1: percent of the phosphorus used by US farmers. Yes, so
Speaker 1: twenty five percent of the world's demand and seventy five
Speaker 1: percent of this of the US, which is a crazy
Speaker 1: amount if you think about it, and how you said,
Speaker 1: just how the gopher tortous protects all these species and
Speaker 1: all these things. Right here is Florida giving back. But
Speaker 1: at what cost because the byproduct of this phosphorus is
Speaker 1: quite literally radioactive, and it's there's been a ton of
Speaker 1: these lakes that have opened up with sinkholes that go
Speaker 1: directly into aquifers and they just destroy apps. That's why
Speaker 1: you got red ties and all these other things. I
Speaker 1: just completely destroy it. So it's like all these corporations
Speaker 1: buying it up because they know like, hey, this is
Speaker 1: the black goal, bro, this is the premium material.
Speaker 2: I think they are. I think you're right. But you know, Juan,
Speaker 2: these corporations with their corporation corporations in there corporations, all
Speaker 2: they do is corporate and corporations, their corporation corporate. Well, Juan,
Speaker 2: you know in Florida, well, we like to say is developers. Okay,
Speaker 2: we don't like the developers coming in and tearing up Florida. Okay,
Speaker 2: keep Florida green. I just go to can't help go
Speaker 2: develop the parking lots that are already here, I can't
Speaker 2: help go develop the desert.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one of my projects. Bro, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you one.
Speaker 2: Of my products. You're a developer, aren't.
Speaker 1: You, not to the scale you think more of. I'm
Speaker 1: a now, I'm peanuts compared to some of these guys.
Speaker 1: But listen, Thissen, I'm gonna tell you one of my projects.
Speaker 1: One of my projects that I'm developing right now was
Speaker 1: actually a closed landfill, a closed construction, the bri landfill
Speaker 1: that's been closed for over thirty years that the county
Speaker 1: and the state have given me problems of four for
Speaker 1: the last three years because our government. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: clean up a closed landfill and I am and we're
Speaker 1: doing it, and I've gotten so much pushback, Bro, do
Speaker 1: you understand what that is? I told the committe I
Speaker 1: spoke to the commissioner, okay, and she knows. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be mean. She was a nice lady, but
Speaker 1: she was an idiot, Okay. I spent about thirty minutes
Speaker 1: explaining to her what we were trying to do. And
Speaker 1: after the thirty and I understand it, it's a lot
Speaker 1: to take in. After the minutes, she asked me a
Speaker 1: question at the end or told me something at the
Speaker 1: end that I understood. She didn't hear absolutely anything I
Speaker 1: said to her. And I'm like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: So our own government works against us, right and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to clean up trash, I told the county. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I can show you the email. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to clean up garbage from this old landfill.
Speaker 2: Said listen, I'm Puerto Rican.
Speaker 1: I know about garbage and islands, all right, bro, we're experts.
Speaker 1: So anyways, point being that a lot of our you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of it is to blame the commissioners and
Speaker 1: these politicians that are in power, because you see it
Speaker 1: over and over again. And Orange County is one of
Speaker 1: those counties that where I'm at Central Florida, that it's
Speaker 1: paid to play and you gotta pay to play, and
Speaker 1: they don't like it when you go against the grain
Speaker 1: and not pay them to play. And that's where you
Speaker 1: get a lot of problems. But yeah, anyways, I am developer,
Speaker 1: but not like that. I I try and help you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I could have, But sometimes you
Speaker 1: just see a juicy lot with a bunch of trees
Speaker 1: and you just want to just mow it down and
Speaker 1: just build a house on it. I gotta feed my
Speaker 1: family too, bro.
Speaker 2: You know, houses aren't the worst thing ever, as long
Speaker 2: as we give them like an acre of space between
Speaker 2: them or something.
Speaker 1: You know, We're we're not doing like plan development. We're
Speaker 1: doing development, not play development, which is different.
Speaker 2: Did these suburb fucking gated communities Edwards scissorhands semi semi
Speaker 2: gated communities? Dude, These things go up with like one
Speaker 2: hundred houses, two hundred, five hundred fucking insane, Dude. They
Speaker 2: tear up the everglades, they tear up go for tortoises,
Speaker 2: you know. And also, you know we talk about this stuff.
Speaker 2: It's not the number one motivation. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: be over here like, yeah, we gotta save the owls.
Speaker 2: Guys Like, Okay, I'm not. I'm no a leftist eco
Speaker 2: terrorist loser, but we can't. I am a hippie, Okay,
Speaker 2: we can't let Florida get destroyed by reckless, greedy developers.
Speaker 2: I know it's such a cliche just to like fling
Speaker 2: our problems at like some rich person, but it's true. Ah,
Speaker 2: the developers are destroying Florida. They're you know, if I
Speaker 2: were governor of Florida tomorrow, I'd say, no more development
Speaker 2: if there's green, you know, and dutch it. If you
Speaker 2: see a parking lot and you want to flip that
Speaker 2: make into something cool whatever. No more green, no more
Speaker 2: wet or green development, and go develop the desert. That's
Speaker 2: what we need t shirts saying.
Speaker 1: So it's not we're gonna have them real And and
Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting that we talk about Florida being
Speaker 1: over developed. Yes, in some areas that may seem like it,
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of areas that are undeveloped,
Speaker 1: and it's just like land and land and land for
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Damn, there's nothing out here, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of places.
Speaker 2: To start licking your lips.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, zactly. I started rubbing my hands together. I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's go. But yeah, no, there still are a lot
Speaker 1: of places that are a lot of land still untouched
Speaker 1: right for the picking. And we're gonna be here along
Speaker 1: the way to do it.
Speaker 2: Well here. What I was gonna say was, you know,
Speaker 2: not to be too much of a uh you know,
Speaker 2: conservationist or whatever. I believe in all that these theories
Speaker 2: are going to get more attention to the terree attacks
Speaker 2: folio the Florida gopher wood, which is an endangered tree species,
Speaker 2: and the gopher tortoise. The talking about Noah's Ark being
Speaker 2: built out of gopher wood at this endangered species and
Speaker 2: the gopher tortoise. You know how those all tie in together.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a great route to help protect these
Speaker 2: two species, you know, Terrea daxifolia, gopher tortoise, and those
Speaker 2: two are getting hit the hardest. Terrea not so much
Speaker 2: by development, but more just lack of awareness, lack of care.
Speaker 2: No one really knows or cares. But gopher tortoises are
Speaker 2: getting paved over all the time every year in Florida.
Speaker 1: And you know what's how big do these trees get?
Speaker 1: They get big, They go.
Speaker 2: Like fifty feet maybe at most. They're not like that big.
Speaker 1: Oh I saw it's pretty big.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the tallest one ever was like fifty defeat.
Speaker 2: But they used to be bigger during the ice age?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So where were we at so that they become
Speaker 1: best they become best buds. He kind of funds the
Speaker 1: operation that he turns around, flips it, sells it to
Speaker 1: the Mormon Church, and then the Mormon Church, Well, I
Speaker 1: can imagine donates it to the state and the state
Speaker 1: takes it over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was maybe one or two private owners in
Speaker 2: there somewhere in between that we skipped over.
Speaker 1: But yeah, more or less okay, and let's where do
Speaker 1: we go from here? Let me look at my head.
Speaker 2: So the tree of life. Just just to reiterate on this,
Speaker 2: you know, we talked about the tree of knowledge of
Speaker 2: good and evil in the more metaphorical or allegorical sense
Speaker 2: symbolic just just for everyone out there, we are going
Speaker 2: to talk about all the literal candidates for the Tree
Speaker 2: of Knowledge and the Tree of life. We're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about what trees they could or not be. So don't
Speaker 2: think that we were done with that portion. Okay, We're
Speaker 2: going to get very literal and in depth here in
Speaker 2: a sec But the tree of life, if you want
Speaker 2: to just real quick, real quick, what Kalawai was saying.
Speaker 2: He points to the tree of life being the laws
Speaker 2: of God, the forces of creation. You know, all that
Speaker 2: is good, like all that is kind of growing and
Speaker 2: spreading outward and upward, guided by the principles of God,
Speaker 2: the laws of God. He almost kind of makes like
Speaker 2: some acronyms or like there's four parts. To let me
Speaker 2: see what he says here. God is law. You know,
Speaker 2: Law does not have any headquarters. It is infinite, universal, everywhere,
Speaker 2: home in the present. I am a God at hand
Speaker 2: and a and not a god afar off. He points
Speaker 2: to the Tree of Life as belief in a supreme
Speaker 2: being and just placing your complete faith in God. You know,
Speaker 2: he kind of leaves it a little vague, but he
Speaker 2: believes the Tree of Life was more or less as symbolic,
Speaker 2: as he said the tree of knowledge of good and
Speaker 2: evil was so but all right, So that's what he said.
Speaker 2: He definitely didn't rest the whole theory on what the
Speaker 2: Tree of Life or Tree of Knowledge were, but he
Speaker 2: touched on it a little bit. I agree there. You know,
Speaker 2: he could have said some more, could have fleshed it
Speaker 2: out a little bit. But uh, you know, where do
Speaker 2: we go from here? Juan?
Speaker 1: Do you think that this is a mockery right because
Speaker 1: we talk about it's interesting that Disney and his brother,
Speaker 1: the Disney Bros. Came here to Florida and they they
Speaker 1: licked their hands too, right, or licked their hands and
Speaker 1: licked their lips and rubbed their hands together, or probably
Speaker 1: did both. Okay, they licked their hands too, and they
Speaker 1: saw this this you know how many acres of land
Speaker 1: and they just completely demolished it and they put up
Speaker 1: tree of life in here. And this is one of
Speaker 1: these trees that you've talked about before that looks like
Speaker 1: an upside down Is this the upside down tree that
Speaker 1: you've talked about before where it looks like the roots
Speaker 1: are at the top.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's a baya bab?
Speaker 1: Isn't there wasn't there a baya bab in? Where did
Speaker 1: we go out? There was one?
Speaker 2: We went someone? And is Hollywood, Florida a circle? And
Speaker 2: then there is a couple in.
Speaker 1: Miami the Flagler House or no.
Speaker 2: Whoa, that's a kpak tree. Okay, So let's let's go
Speaker 2: through all the candidates. We're on the baya bab right now,
Speaker 2: so we'll start off with that one. You know, just
Speaker 2: I know, we have many like kind of high brow
Speaker 2: or you know, very heady intellectual viewers who've certainly you know,
Speaker 2: worked around the symbolism allegory. So bear with us. It's
Speaker 2: not foolish to interpret the Bible literally, Okay, definitely not.
Speaker 2: I always say, if you're going to engage in any
Speaker 2: or entertain any of these higher interpretations like the allegory
Speaker 2: or symbolism, allegory, transcendental truth. You've got to swallow the literal.
Speaker 2: You can't build a functioning allegory out of a false statement,
Speaker 2: you know, or obviously false, or something that's not rooted
Speaker 2: in truth. So you've got to be able to swallow
Speaker 2: the Bible literally. Okay, and I say swallow the as
Speaker 2: people are reluctant. You know, they think, oh, I know
Speaker 2: more than that, I know better than that, I've researched that.
Speaker 2: This book was actually added this and they took this
Speaker 2: book out and this verse was added. Later. People get
Speaker 2: so intellectual and they get so into it. They start
Speaker 2: to think they're a scholar of the Bible. They start
Speaker 2: to use academia as their new religion, and the peer
Speaker 2: reviews become their you know, counsels of truth, and their
Speaker 2: science educators become their new arbiters of truth, and it's
Speaker 2: all new religion. People lose faith, they get you know,
Speaker 2: they lose their firm footing just real quick. To interpret
Speaker 2: these things literally shows humility. It shows that we're, okay,
Speaker 2: not understanding every single part of it. Okay, you know,
Speaker 2: the greatest thing in the world is an ordinary man
Speaker 2: and his ordinary wife and their ordinary children, right, just
Speaker 2: living God's plan, not trying to take a peek behind
Speaker 2: the curtain all the time and all that. But with
Speaker 2: all that said, you know, there's there's the preface, there's
Speaker 2: the disclaimer. Uh, you know, we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: the symbolism of the allegory too, but we'll start off
Speaker 2: with the literal. So I don't want to see too
Speaker 2: many people shaming us saying, oh, you really think it's
Speaker 2: a tree, You really think it's a fruit, You really
Speaker 2: think that.
Speaker 1: Oh, I want to mention at the beginning. There's the
Speaker 1: metaphysical and there's the physical.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, my consciousness is kind of always no,
Speaker 2: don't yeah, don't don't entertain them. Yeah, sorry, there's someone
Speaker 2: at the door ask for stuff.
Speaker 1: But so yeah, I mean we talked about that at
Speaker 1: the beginning. It's it's not you know, there there's multiple
Speaker 1: ways of interpreting things, and I don't think it's I
Speaker 1: don't think it's bad to talk about every different aspect
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I deal with a lot of condescending,
Speaker 2: smug No. It all's you know, maybe I'm maybe I'm
Speaker 2: one of them, but uh yeah, So all right, what
Speaker 2: are some of the candidates for the real tree of life?
Speaker 2: Have you ever thought about it? You know, fig tree
Speaker 2: is not a bad place to start, but Baabab we'll
Speaker 2: start with the Beyabab. So the expression or the title
Speaker 2: tree of life is not exclusive to the Bible. Tree
Speaker 2: of life is kind of a concept all around the world. Again,
Speaker 2: there's more mystical interpretations, more like geographic interpretations like oh,
Speaker 2: the center tree at the center of the North Pole
Speaker 2: in the middle of the world, things like that. But
Speaker 2: the tree of life in the Bible, let's see, well
Speaker 2: in Africa, well, since we're on the Bay of Bab
Speaker 2: tree in Africa, Madagascar and parts of India, they look
Speaker 2: at the Bay of Bab tree as the tree of life. Now,
Speaker 2: the Bible doesn't lay out these criteria, but there is
Speaker 2: kind of like a loose criteria for what a tree
Speaker 2: of life is. It provides food, shelter, so food, shelter, clothing,
Speaker 2: and water. The tree of life pretty much provides all
Speaker 2: of man's needs. And not every tree fits into that category.
Speaker 2: So you know, not all a lot of trees have fruit,
Speaker 2: a lot of them can be kind of fashioned into crafts,
Speaker 2: you know, crafted into tools and clothing. But not many
Speaker 2: trees provide shelter in the true sense, like natural sense,
Speaker 2: meaning you can go inside a babe ab tree a
Speaker 2: lot of times and they're they're really big.
Speaker 1: That tree, hussy, bro, but are not at all.
Speaker 2: Trying to get I'm trying to get up in there.
Speaker 2: H But people use them as houses, uh, jails, bars,
Speaker 2: and so they provide actual shelter and they can be
Speaker 2: you know, they're they have fibers, they have bark. All
Speaker 2: the different pieces can be fast into clothing. And you
Speaker 2: know this is not something you find in It's not
Speaker 2: native to Iraq, it's not native to Florida, but it's
Speaker 2: a good candidate. Well here, how about this. Let's start
Speaker 2: off with the ones that are native to Florida. Okay,
Speaker 2: because we yeah, let's take that direction. That'll be better.
Speaker 1: So in the Torrea State Park, right, you want to
Speaker 1: look them over there.
Speaker 2: Well, you were talking, you were searching about the fig tree.
Speaker 2: That's a good place to start. So the first plant
Speaker 2: named by name in the Bible is the fig tree.
Speaker 2: So fig leaves, at least in the English Bible. You
Speaker 2: mentioned there's no apples in the garden of Eden, or
Speaker 2: they're not mentioned by name, it just says fruit. And
Speaker 2: now apple we talked about before, we were talking about
Speaker 2: afalach in the Welsh other world, you know, America, the Avalon.
Speaker 2: We talked about how apples Appalachicola seems to have the
Speaker 2: word apple in it too.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: Now, apple is kind of a generic It was a
Speaker 2: generic term. It could apply to all different types of
Speaker 2: fruit until recently apples. I'm saying recently, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Three hundred years, two in years, one hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 2: Within that time period, apple, the word apple came to
Speaker 2: mean the apple from Kazakhstan, the common apple we know today.
Speaker 2: That's not always what apple meant. So people shouldn't get
Speaker 2: hung up on the word apple too much. I don't
Speaker 2: believe the Tree of Life or the Tree of Knowledge
Speaker 2: was an apple tree, but we do have Appalachicola in Florida,
Speaker 2: so it could be a connection. Therew the fig tree.
Speaker 2: Figs are native to Florida, so that's one clue when
Speaker 2: evidence right there. Figs are native to Florida, multiple types.
Speaker 2: There are strangler trees that are native to Florida which
Speaker 2: are in the fig family too, and then of course
Speaker 2: the banyons and Ficus Ficus religiosa, like the Buddha's ficus tree.
Speaker 2: The Banyan trees from Asia have been brought over to America,
Speaker 2: brought over to Florida since like the nineties, maybe eighteen nineties, ninety,
Speaker 2: early nineteen hundreds, nineteen twenties, there was already there's definitely
Speaker 2: a lot of Banyan trees in Florida by then. But figs,
Speaker 2: so figs are all over Florida. So if we're going
Speaker 2: down our Bible checklist, figs are in Florida. Check fig leaves.
Speaker 2: Adam and Eve were covered with fig leaves according to
Speaker 2: the English Bible. But I don't think too many people.
Speaker 2: I don't think people really say that the garden or
Speaker 2: the tree of knowledge of good and evil was a
Speaker 2: fig I don't hear that too much. But some popular
Speaker 2: candidates for what the tree of knowledge of good and
Speaker 2: evil were. I know, we're on the tree of life
Speaker 2: right now, But people like to say from like more
Speaker 2: of a biblical point of view or an archaeological point
Speaker 2: of view. In the Middle East, they'll say citrus sometimes
Speaker 2: against citrus is not really native to the Middle East either.
Speaker 2: But citrus plays an important role in Hebrew ceremony and
Speaker 2: Hebrew holidays Jewish holidays, but so does the palm tree.
Speaker 2: I know we're going to talk about the palm tree.
Speaker 1: A strangler fig tree. Yeah, is there like a parasite
Speaker 1: that crawls out of there.
Speaker 2: Well, it gets dropped, usually from birds, sometimes like a
Speaker 2: raccoon or something will drop the seeds up at the
Speaker 2: top of another tree, and then instead of growing upward,
Speaker 2: they grow downward. So that's some of the religious symbolism
Speaker 2: there is. Whoa dude, They grow down, They grow down
Speaker 2: from the heaven, from heaven down to earth. You know,
Speaker 2: they seem to grow downward, and they strangle the trees
Speaker 2: that they start out on over time and take them over,
Speaker 2: and they're strong. So once they take over a tree,
Speaker 2: once they're latched on, it's kind of hard to get
Speaker 2: rid of them.
Speaker 1: But whoa dude. So we have.
Speaker 2: Now the Buddha Buddha was you know, it is said
Speaker 2: to have reached enlightenment or attained enlightenment underneath a banyon
Speaker 2: or fig or ficus tree.
Speaker 1: So got the paradise tree that's also native to Florida. Okay,
Speaker 1: you ever heard of that. No, a flowering tree needed
Speaker 1: to Florida, South America and the Caribbean. The paradise tree,
Speaker 1: the century bark and bitterwood one sec.
Speaker 2: I'll be right back one.
Speaker 1: So it produces fruit, so it's native to South Florida
Speaker 1: and it produces edible fruit. So there are let's see
Speaker 1: what the what does the fruit look like? Fruit? Paradise tree, right,
Speaker 1: so they look like like grapes. What is this? Also
Speaker 1: like little dates kind of which we'll get into the
Speaker 1: palm tree here soon. So we have the strangler fig, which,
Speaker 1: which we just talked about, one of Florida's most fascinating
Speaker 1: native trees, begins life in another tree and eventually becomes
Speaker 1: a giant independent organism. Ancient fig trees are deeply connected
Speaker 1: to biblical imagery. Again, Adam and Eve's fig leaves figs
Speaker 1: up here throughout the scripture. And we have the gumbo limbo.
Speaker 1: What is that in Florida? A fast growing, highly wind
Speaker 1: resistant native tree found in South Florida.
Speaker 2: Keys So who told you that? Who? Where'd you come
Speaker 2: up with? Gumbling? Or?
Speaker 1: Uh? Now? I looked up native native Florida species and
Speaker 1: trees that are good candidates for the Garden of.
Speaker 2: Eden, damn and you search AI with that? Yeah, bro, okay,
Speaker 2: you're giving them, you're giving them all my secrets. Dude,
Speaker 2: what the fuck you gotta be You gotta go a
Speaker 2: little deeper than Wikipedia.
Speaker 1: Dude, you know you gotta be deeper. You got we
Speaker 1: gotta go deeper. So we're trying to go deeper.
Speaker 2: Bro, what that aid goes?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: So a gumbo limbo, that's a good candidate. That's a
Speaker 2: good that's a good one. So people, you know, uh, Frankinson's,
Speaker 2: you know, Frankinson's. I think it's franknsense. It's either Frankinson's
Speaker 2: or a Casia. Gumbo limbo is one of the closest
Speaker 2: relatives to frankinsense. I believe search gumbo Limbo related of Frankinson's.
Speaker 1: Is it like that? Since since now well I n
Speaker 1: c ah, just go to all.
Speaker 2: It'll explain it. Yeah, same family as Frankinson's. Closely related,
Speaker 2: same family. They are both prized for their incense the resins. Okay,
Speaker 2: so gumbo limbo. I don't know if it's endangered, but
Speaker 2: it's it's kind of well known, kind of like romanticized tree.
Speaker 2: Especially down here we have gumbo limbo. This like nature
Speaker 2: uh you know education wildlife education facility over in Boca Raton,
Speaker 2: and you have it's name for the gumbo limbo tree.
Speaker 2: And now gumbo is very close to Frankinson's, so it
Speaker 2: can be used for a similar thing. And Franknson's played
Speaker 2: a significant role in of course the Old Testament, you know,
Speaker 2: the Hebrew. The Israelite priests would use franknsins and mirror
Speaker 2: pretty much for all their activities. It had to be burning,
Speaker 2: especially in the Tabernac all around the arc of the
Speaker 2: Covenant and stuff. Frankinston's murr cinnamon cannabis too, I believe.
Speaker 2: But and then when Jesus comes around, you know, they
Speaker 2: give him Frankinson's and mr. So we've got it here
Speaker 2: right close enough, right a distant not not distant, close relative,
Speaker 2: good enough for me, Tammar And yeah, we don't need
Speaker 2: to worry about tammering. That's not no, no no. Here.
Speaker 2: AI is not going to give you good info on this.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm AI's daddy. Okay, Yeah, I have a
Speaker 2: greater source than AI. It's called yahweh Okay. The AI
Speaker 2: is yeah, way backwards by the way.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about the what is called the pond.
Speaker 2: Gumbo and bow is pretty good. Nah, that's not really
Speaker 2: good one. Yeah, you know we have apples.
Speaker 1: Do they taste any good?
Speaker 2: I don't think I've tasted one of these. But when
Speaker 2: we get to the tree of a knowledge of good
Speaker 2: and evil, the forbidden fruit, We've got an apple that
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about. That's really convincing candidates.
Speaker 1: One of the most floridian pictures I've ever seen, the
Speaker 1: gator eating an apple.
Speaker 2: Oh ship my been.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, come on, dude, whatever tastes or not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they taste pretty good from what I've heard. But
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about another one. It's very similar
Speaker 2: that people really get right here.
Speaker 1: Reminiscence of ripe honeydew. Lemon. Oh I love lemon. Okay,
Speaker 1: he made it to jam, popular ingredient of fruit drinks. Well,
Speaker 1: thieves in the past, seeds are okay, Okay, look at this.
Speaker 1: The seeds were crushing cooked and coconut oil is applied
Speaker 1: to hair to get rid of rice.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that's the tree of life. But
Speaker 2: let's let's put out some other candidates. Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: here you go.
Speaker 1: A live oak.
Speaker 2: We do have oak trees. Now, I don't think oak
Speaker 2: is a convincing candidate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no there's no fruit. But some dude I
Speaker 1: drive past some crazy Okay, I look.
Speaker 2: Gnarly search the century oak centry Oak, Yeah, Florida.
Speaker 1: Yeah is this a place tree?
Speaker 2: Maybe it's in Georgia. Actually no, it's in Tallassy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Has this one?
Speaker 2: Answer? That one's pretty big. Then there is the whoa,
Speaker 2: you've been here one? Yeah, I've been there. There's another one.
Speaker 2: There's a bigger one. There's a couple of bigger ones.
Speaker 2: So the spooner oak. Okay, this is like the tree
Speaker 2: of life. Search the spooner oak.
Speaker 1: The spoon bruh oh Dan, Look how small he is?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Look at look at my video. I have a
Speaker 2: video too, if you want to look at it. I
Speaker 2: think I get the perspective better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're what are you like? Five to two?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 2: Funny? I think, uh, that's all right, I won you
Speaker 2: just missed a foot.
Speaker 1: Let's see here. You're in my search history, bro.
Speaker 2: Overal Florida, spooner oak sort of?
Speaker 1: So yeah, look how tiny you are? Bro? Yep, you're
Speaker 1: at least five to three.
Speaker 2: Yep, one pone stelio in size. Can I watch this?
Speaker 1: Can you guys hear my audio?
Speaker 3: Or no?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't need to listen. It's okay.
Speaker 1: I just want to see how tiny you are.
Speaker 2: Well whatever gets you off one whatever, Look how big
Speaker 2: you'll see in a second. This is just over the
Speaker 2: Florida state line. It is right smack dab in the
Speaker 2: middle of the Garden of Eden area. You could not
Speaker 2: be more perfectly like here's the four Rivers in the
Speaker 2: Garden of Eden. This is Alabama's over here to you
Speaker 2: from the Garden of Eden.
Speaker 1: Bro. Hold on, hold on, I gotta play the audio
Speaker 1: on this, Bro, I gotta play the audio on this.
Speaker 1: I have to because you sound like such a bitch.
Speaker 2: Dude, gotta play bro.
Speaker 1: Check this out, Check this out. Hi, I'm Narco long Ago.
Speaker 2: Why judge, This is doctor Narco Longo talking to you
Speaker 2: from the Garden of Eden, Iron City, Georgia, Lapel mic
Speaker 2: Bro just north of Lake Seminole. It's got no low end.
Speaker 2: They were standing in front Cancer two type.
Speaker 1: Brother. They're excusing your balls, oak Tree.
Speaker 2: There's no low end in the microphone.
Speaker 4: We're daying here two live fIF.
Speaker 1: Who's this guy?
Speaker 2: That's that's uh.
Speaker 1: Georgia game and late personally.
Speaker 4: Break search from what.
Speaker 2: I would rate the bats some local guy the biggest
Speaker 2: in the world, the largest oak tree in the world.
Speaker 2: Whoa many oak trees that would like to be the
Speaker 2: largest in the world.
Speaker 1: But when we.
Speaker 2: Determine this, we're talking about single trunk or single stem,
Speaker 2: and that's what makes this tree unique. Is it a
Speaker 2: single tree?
Speaker 1: I got a single trunk for you.
Speaker 2: Bro Live oaks like this one tend to grow in
Speaker 2: clumps and clusters, and those can get pretty large. Multi
Speaker 2: trunk tree.
Speaker 4: Are they multiple acorns?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 1: Most And how old do they say it is?
Speaker 2: Bro because they branched low at least five hundred, probably
Speaker 2: like two thousand.
Speaker 4: Another question, this is by far the biggest single trunk Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: That I know of, but I know of now. It's
Speaker 2: what makes this one especially unique is some of the
Speaker 2: largest oak trees in the world, regardless of how many
Speaker 2: trunk stocks they have, still are only barely larger than
Speaker 2: this tree here.
Speaker 4: How many trunks should the white crops trade?
Speaker 2: Hail three?
Speaker 1: Good three.
Speaker 2: Village Sentinel. That's another good one. With the way Cross oak.
Speaker 1: That's.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna eat me if I hate a little
Speaker 2: if I you're not sorry. Fuck, I'm retarded, so you're
Speaker 2: not gonna You're not gonna hate me if I eat
Speaker 2: a little food, eat.
Speaker 1: A little snacky snack, some good weeds. Mm hmm. Girth,
Speaker 1: the best method is. The girth is not taking in
Speaker 1: the big crazy. It's not.
Speaker 4: And if David and I with five hundred pound haul
Speaker 4: and still bigger than the four.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you. Just because the tree is the champion,
Speaker 5: doesn't mean it's the tallest. It doesn't mean it's the oldest,
Speaker 5: doesn't mean it's the fattest, doesn't mean it's the widest.
Speaker 5: It just means, by this formula that was set up
Speaker 5: in nineteen thirty eight, it has the most points. All
Speaker 5: that means. That's it. It has the most points. It
Speaker 5: means nothing else.
Speaker 2: Now the age for this tree, they haven't given for certain,
Speaker 2: but I've heard ranges from two hundred, three hundred, six hundred.
Speaker 1: I joined the navy eighteen years old.
Speaker 4: Y'all, y'all not the same size then I see free Now.
Speaker 1: You'll be ninety.
Speaker 2: Pretty wow, And it doesn't seem like it's changed in
Speaker 2: size and years. Wow I'm going to have to come
Speaker 2: out and say this is much much older than six
Speaker 2: hundred because I am trust trees in South Florida and
Speaker 2: Miami who are five to six hundred, they're not even
Speaker 2: a quarter of this size.
Speaker 6: So this oak tree is seventeen foot in circumference. I
Speaker 6: was told that the Smithsonian did a core sample in
Speaker 6: the seventies and they said it was somewhere around five
Speaker 6: to six hundred years old before my time, obviously.
Speaker 2: And those were dated by the Smithsonian themselves, which we
Speaker 2: really have something special here. All right.
Speaker 5: I'm Eli Dickerson here. I'm a volunteer with American Forest
Speaker 5: and American Forces.
Speaker 1: Measuring the girth of this tree here. It's one of
Speaker 1: the girthliest I've ever done seen.
Speaker 2: We're here with We're here with American girth hunters. My
Speaker 2: name's Eli. Oh all right, we love you, Eli. Just kidding.
Speaker 1: That's enough. That's let's get serious. We're talking about the
Speaker 1: garden of ending here in the all right, okay, interesting video.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that that thing is matt Where is that
Speaker 1: in Georgia?
Speaker 2: Just over the Florida state line in the very very
Speaker 2: southeast corner near Iron City, Georgia.
Speaker 1: So in the area the f a g border.
Speaker 2: Yep, exact literally Garden of Eden area. Callaway says, there's
Speaker 2: four rivers there, Chattahoochee, the Fish Pond Creek, the Spring Creek,
Speaker 2: and the Flint River. That tree is smack dab in
Speaker 2: the middle of those four trees as four rivers.
Speaker 1: So one of the other trees, I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is a Canada or not. The one that we
Speaker 1: did over at the Flaggler house. What kind of tree
Speaker 1: with that was a baya bap tree? Right? Is that
Speaker 1: a Canada or is that not from here? Right? That's
Speaker 1: that was a transplanted tree.
Speaker 2: It's not a terrible candidate, but I don't think it's
Speaker 2: super convincing. So Kapok trees come from the Caribbean. You know,
Speaker 2: they're mostly I think in Mexico, like the Yucatan, Puerto Rico.
Speaker 2: They are one of the principal trees of the Maya
Speaker 2: and the Aztec, so they must be spread over a
Speaker 2: fair amount in Mexico. Flagler brought this one to Florida,
Speaker 2: but there could have been some in Florida. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not outside the Roman possibility that one was growing
Speaker 2: on its own before Columbus came here. The Tyanos were
Speaker 2: taking the Tyanos, the arrow Act were taking, you know,
Speaker 2: canoes back and forth from the Bahamas Puerto Rico, Florida.
Speaker 2: And you know you can get You can go from
Speaker 2: Bimini to Florida in a kayak in fifteen hours. Do
Speaker 2: you know that?
Speaker 1: Good luck? Yeah, I'm sure you can't. It can be done.
Speaker 1: But how are you going to carry your massive balls
Speaker 1: on that kayak? Bro? Because that would that'd be a
Speaker 1: scary ride. It's scary on a regular boat or a
Speaker 1: jet ski.
Speaker 2: Imagine fucking girls and paddle boards. Do it be fine?
Speaker 1: Fifteen hours? Brok? Fifteen hours? Look at long Ago, Bro,
Speaker 1: everywhere he goes. Guess who's taking his video? Do I
Speaker 1: come out in here? Did I? Did I do a?
Speaker 1: Guess who the cameraman is in this video? No?
Speaker 2: You were shivering behind the camera?
Speaker 1: Is well? I think isn't Epstein's house by here?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We stopped. We stopped there for drinks after this.
Speaker 1: Remember, no, I don't come out in this video. That's crazy,
Speaker 1: But yes I am the cameraman. This camera work here? Anyways?
Speaker 1: What are other the the Florida State tree, the cabbage palm?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a bad option. And then we can
Speaker 2: get into the Indians. The Indians used to make whoa
Speaker 2: clothes sheltered food out of the pallmeadow, the cabbage or
Speaker 2: the saw palmetto mm hmmm, sable palm.
Speaker 1: So the palm tree. Right. One of the interesting things
Speaker 1: is that in some interpretations, you know, we've all seen
Speaker 1: this picture. Here, let me find it. Where did I
Speaker 1: put it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, this dive deep on the palm tree.
Speaker 1: Let me find the damn I just had a freaking
Speaker 1: picture of it. Hold up, anyways, here, let me find
Speaker 1: on the presentation. Uh, I can remember where was that? Okay,
Speaker 1: So we've all seen different interpretations of right, this is
Speaker 1: as far back, you know, thousands of years. And one
Speaker 1: of the interesting things is that they show the tree
Speaker 1: of knowledge of good and evil as a palm tree,
Speaker 1: and that the fruit was actually a date fruit. And
Speaker 1: the date palm is one of the oldest palm trees,
Speaker 1: you know, and essentially they're pretty much immortal. And I'm
Speaker 1: trying to find the picture where they have the little pouches.
Speaker 1: Let me let me find it here. We've all seen
Speaker 1: the little pouch. Everyone asks, like, you know, what's in
Speaker 1: the bag sort of thing, and they're picking the fruit
Speaker 1: from the date palm. Right. So under the Codahamarabi day
Speaker 1: growing share croping, the sale and cutting of palms were
Speaker 1: subject to official regulation. So this goes back, you know,
Speaker 1: hundreds and thousands of years. I'm trying to find the
Speaker 1: damn picture, bro. I can't find it anyways. Point being
Speaker 1: that the date palm is sometimes interpreted as and I
Speaker 1: feel like it's a good candidate. What is in Florida?
Speaker 1: We have different places named palm right, Palm Beach, Palm
Speaker 1: beach gardens, Palm City, Palm Coast, and there are I
Speaker 1: believe when I looked this up it was palm trees
Speaker 1: and he heraldry, and there's about one hundred and seventy five.
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico has a palm tree. The city of Miami
Speaker 1: has a palm tree. There's a bunch of different flags
Speaker 1: that have the palm in it. The Florida seal.
Speaker 2: Nine to eleven backwards. Do what I said nine to
Speaker 2: eleven upside out? Oh yeah, backwards? Yeah, one hundred and
Speaker 2: nineteen palm trees have been kicked out of one hundred
Speaker 2: and nineteen state insignia.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm trying to find the damn uh, let me
Speaker 1: find it, hear mess so messo Potamia, tree of life.
Speaker 1: We've all seen it, and here it is. I found it.
Speaker 1: So this particular picture, right, yeah, everyone always talks about like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's in the what's in the in the bag, what's
Speaker 1: the what's this all about? The little the little pouch?
Speaker 1: What's in there? What do they have? And this is
Speaker 1: actually a depiction of a palm tree. And in other
Speaker 1: depictions they show them putting the pine cone, which, if
Speaker 1: you think about it, what happened when they ate from
Speaker 1: the tree of knowledge of good and evil? They became
Speaker 1: what they they entered another state of consciousness. They learned
Speaker 1: that they were naked, they learned that they you know,
Speaker 1: they became ashamed. And the pine cone is another thing
Speaker 1: where it's been uh depicted as a sort of like
Speaker 1: the pineal gland. Well, if you look at a date fruit,
Speaker 1: it kind of looks like a little right, it's kind
Speaker 1: of cone shape. You can interpret that as that and
Speaker 1: a lot of the conspiracies that you know, they was
Speaker 1: talking like, oh, what are these guys doing here? What
Speaker 1: are they what are they picking here? It's a pine cone?
Speaker 1: It might be a date fruit. Right, a little a
Speaker 1: little bunch of little dates that they're just putting in
Speaker 1: their bag. It could also be symbolic, right that the
Speaker 1: date fruit could be consciousness of the altering of it,
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Let me let me translate this for you, Juan, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is clearly an ancient Mesopotamian depiction of some gay
Speaker 2: guys from Palm Beach versus.
Speaker 1: Okay, is it a palm beach pete? Is that his name?
Speaker 2: It's palm Beach peteed.
Speaker 1: We got them boys, We got them Palm beach peet again,
Speaker 1: palm pre palm trees, the Iluma palm trees.
Speaker 2: I saw a palm beach peet in my car last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I told us, all right, we should get
Speaker 1: him on the show next time I'm down there. Get
Speaker 1: him into the store, and that'd be an interesting So
Speaker 1: you look like one of the biggest PDF files of
Speaker 1: all time. How does that make you feel, that you're
Speaker 1: on this rip around Florida or all these news stations
Speaker 1: that it was that he looks like him. I'd stay
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, one hundred feet away from that. So
Speaker 1: a right in the Bible, the right to shell flourish
Speaker 1: liked the palm tree. So I'm ninety two twelve and
Speaker 1: then it was interesting because I found this picture of
Speaker 1: a templar and of course had the palm trees in
Speaker 1: the back because I think so a little bit of
Speaker 1: a spoiler. I don't want to spoil it. I don't
Speaker 1: want to spoil it, but I think it's got to
Speaker 1: do with ancient bloodline and it goes way back through
Speaker 1: time and let me find something else here. So it's interesting.
Speaker 1: So the date palm right referred to as the phoenix daktaalifera,
Speaker 1: and it's got right. You have the phoenix born from
Speaker 1: rising from the ashes. And it's interesting because they have
Speaker 1: a history, one of the oldest cultivated tree crops with
Speaker 1: the history of over five thousand years old. And check
Speaker 1: this out, right, you have the crown. The crown ranges
Speaker 1: from six to ten meters or twenty to thirty three feet. Right,
Speaker 1: we got that thirty three number in there, and they
Speaker 1: make a bunch of different things with it. Right, you
Speaker 1: can the date. It's super good for you. You can make syrup, alcohol, vinegar.
Speaker 1: The seeds, the wood, the leaves, and they're used for
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different things. So it would make
Speaker 1: sense that how you were mentioning earlier about the trees
Speaker 1: providing life, providing shelter, et cetera, et cetera. The date
Speaker 1: palm is one of the perfect candidates that would provide
Speaker 1: you with fruit, and then you can also use that
Speaker 1: to make other things with it. It has medicinal uses, right,
Speaker 1: use it as a cleanser. It can be used for
Speaker 1: sore throats, colds, fevers, so it even treats diarrhea and
Speaker 1: urinary ailments. But yeah, I mean it, yeah, it could
Speaker 1: be thirty. I just thought it was interesting. This is
Speaker 1: some Wikipedia stuff.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 1: Right, they can use the seeds for the seeds are
Speaker 1: used burned to make charcoal, right, so it's got a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of different things that it can be used for.
Speaker 2: And the also when they say honey in the Bible
Speaker 2: a lot of times, that's actually date syrup.
Speaker 3: Hmmm.
Speaker 1: Dates are mentioned more than fifty times in the Bible,
Speaker 1: twenty times in the Qoran, and obviously they hold great
Speaker 1: significance in Abrahamic religions. The date palm leaves are used
Speaker 1: for what for palm Sunday and Christian religion and many
Speaker 1: Jewish scholars believe that the honey reference in Exodus chapter three,
Speaker 1: the land of flowing with milk and honey, is actually
Speaker 1: the well you just said that the date honey and
Speaker 1: not honey from bees. So in the tour, the palm
Speaker 1: trees are reference as symbols of prosperity and triumph. Date
Speaker 1: palms are one of the seven species of negative Israelite
Speaker 1: plants revered in Judaism, and the Koran Allah instructs Maryam
Speaker 1: to eat dates ring labor pains when she gives birth
Speaker 1: to Jesus. So again it's just over and over again,
Speaker 1: and then I get even you know a lot of
Speaker 1: the It was interesting because when I was making this presentation,
Speaker 1: I was actually in Georgia, and on my feed, one
Speaker 1: of the things that they found when they had unearthed
Speaker 1: the I said, too in common I think it was
Speaker 1: his uh, his name the Pharaoh. Where they opened up
Speaker 1: the touton common commun they had found dates, right, they
Speaker 1: preserve breads, figs, dates, grapes, honey, wine and plenty of meat.
Speaker 1: And I actually ended up I was in Georgia at
Speaker 1: the time, right fag fag border, and I ended up
Speaker 1: coming across this tracking tuton common exhibit and this is
Speaker 1: this is actually my son. These are pictures of me
Speaker 1: there where. These are all different, they're not real, they're
Speaker 1: like props. But they set up like this whole museum
Speaker 1: and they do like a guided tour and everything of
Speaker 1: all these things. And this was like three or three
Speaker 1: years ago now and they had like a like an
Speaker 1: audio guided tour. But it all started with the research
Speaker 1: into the date, which they found some that were preserved
Speaker 1: with him, and I get into the ecronomicon and a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of other stuff. But I want to talk
Speaker 1: about the second. Yeah, the palm tree. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: the We mentioned the Masons earlier, and there's actually a
Speaker 1: masonry sect of here's another templar. The Nights Templar were
Speaker 1: set to have developed a brewer concoction of palm wine
Speaker 1: alo vera pulp and hemp and alig sir they called
Speaker 1: the Elixir of Jerusalem, into which they attributed their health,
Speaker 1: strength and longevity. The Night Temple were said to have
Speaker 1: developed a brew or why I put this uh twice,
Speaker 1: I guess. So the templars.
Speaker 2: If you notice palm trees almost like an anagram of templar. Yes,
Speaker 2: not the same amount of letters, but the same yeah
Speaker 2: letters being used.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, exactly exactly, and let me find it here.
Speaker 1: There was a So another another thing that I came across, right,
Speaker 1: talk about the Garden of Eden and everything else in
Speaker 1: certain iterations. The leftover clay that was used to make
Speaker 1: Adam Ah after the creation of Adam and his sister,
Speaker 1: the palm tree, was created from the leftover place. So
Speaker 1: the world, which he calls the Earth of reality, was
Speaker 1: made from the sesame seed sized piece of clay that
Speaker 1: was left over after the creation of Adam and his
Speaker 1: sister the palm tree. Right, this image of the palm
Speaker 1: tree is based on the well known Headeth where the
Speaker 1: prophet procrams honor your paternal aunt, the palm tree, for
Speaker 1: she was created from the remainder of clay of your
Speaker 1: father Adam. So the sister of Adam and some and
Speaker 1: I believe this is Sufism, is connected to the palm tree.
Speaker 1: So again, this is why I believe it's connected to
Speaker 1: the Holy Grail and maybe a certain bloodline, right, this
Speaker 1: palm tree bloodline. Again, this is a this is all speculation, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is all speculation. I'm gonna be doing a whole
Speaker 1: there's one hundred and twenty four slides here. Okay, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing a whole thing on this. I'm
Speaker 1: just jumping around a little bit to find the uh
Speaker 1: some palm tree references. And so there's actually a here.
Speaker 1: We are a free Masonic tracing boards as well that
Speaker 1: have what that have palm trees. You can kind of
Speaker 1: interpret these pillars as palm trees as well. And one
Speaker 1: of the things that this is Philip K. Dick. We
Speaker 1: find the free Masonic sect that has the the one
Speaker 1: that I told you about that there were like be
Speaker 1: a wreck like a palm tree. Yeah, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: find that sline. It's called the let me find it here,
Speaker 1: Please bear with me. So this is a free Masonic Bible, right,
Speaker 1: and it's got a palm tree in the back there.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm trying to find the the order of
Speaker 1: the shell and the palm on the shell. There you go.
Speaker 1: So I link this to the access Monday you have
Speaker 1: and these are all free Masonic illustrations, right, and you
Speaker 1: have the palm tree in the middle of it all.
Speaker 1: And there was this certain sect of Freemasonry called the
Speaker 1: Palm and Shell and linguistics is concerned with the nature
Speaker 1: of language and communication. This context, we desire to illustrate
Speaker 1: or communicate certain information related to the use of the
Speaker 1: palm as an emblem in freemasonry, and I was taking
Speaker 1: this from a free Masonic site. The palm tree, known
Speaker 1: as tamar and Hebrew language is used to mean to
Speaker 1: be erect a palm tree, and Psalms twelve, we find
Speaker 1: the righteous out flourished like the palm tree. Tomorrow he
Speaker 1: shall grow like a cedar in Lebanon. The palm tree,
Speaker 1: an emblem of less prominent and freemasonry, could be viewed
Speaker 1: as having been hidden in plain sight, particularly as evidenced
Speaker 1: by this picture in our Blue Lodge textbook thirtieth edition.
Speaker 1: So you have this again, shifting the obscuring the view
Speaker 1: of like it's always been there, you just have never
Speaker 1: noticed that it's there. What's one of the most famous
Speaker 1: pictures in California. Bro, They were freaking out recently because
Speaker 1: the palm trees that line that boulevard were actually dying, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they what do they call that place?
Speaker 2: I mean Hollywood Boulevard, Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: Uh, what's the name of the place. The tree line yeah,
Speaker 1: windsor oh windsor I mean everybody you've seen this. Everybody's
Speaker 1: seen and it's you know, one of the everyone's seen
Speaker 1: the pictures of the palm trees. And there was a
Speaker 1: report not too long ago that the palm tree, which
Speaker 1: the palm tree is actually right, if we're talking about
Speaker 1: a tree that goes back in time since the beginning
Speaker 1: of time, palm trees, there's been studies that have shown
Speaker 1: that they're actually immortal. Some palm trees are imortal because
Speaker 1: they're not it's not like an actual tree, like a
Speaker 1: regular tree, like you have an oak tree where it's
Speaker 1: got you know, the different bark. It's like it's almost
Speaker 1: hollow on the inside, right, And that's why it's so limber,
Speaker 1: and that's why I can survive in Florida and take
Speaker 1: the winds and everything. And when you think of a paradise,
Speaker 1: what do you think of you think of a palm tree,
Speaker 1: like a little island on a palm tree. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you have.
Speaker 2: Real quick? Can you search vapor wave?
Speaker 1: Vapor wave?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can get to that. Yeah, it kind of
Speaker 2: ties into the Epstein temple. Good a vapor wave this
Speaker 2: video Wikipedia. Yeah, so I've talked about this a little bit. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it is kind of ridiculous, but it is rooted in
Speaker 2: truth and it's an interesting angle.
Speaker 1: Is this story one? Yeah?
Speaker 2: This is right. So when we're talking about the Garden
Speaker 2: of Eden in Florida, keep going that that right there,
Speaker 2: that's a perfect that's a good example of apor wave.
Speaker 1: Is this meant to symbolize what I think it symbolizes?
Speaker 2: I don't know what is it.
Speaker 1: You can interpret this as nine to eleven, the two
Speaker 1: towers and the two.
Speaker 2: A little bit. Yeah, maybe keep going, keep putting.
Speaker 1: Through them some gooner stuff, bro.
Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, so I've made, you know, the argument
Speaker 2: that just real quick, gopher Wood is don't fucking retarded. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I've got my mouthful.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just how just how you like it?
Speaker 2: All right? Vapor wave is it was like a phenomena where,
Speaker 2: you know, all these people started making this art and
Speaker 2: this music that had this style that it's vaguely tropical.
Speaker 2: It's kind of Florida like, it's insinuated that it's Florida,
Speaker 2: not California. Has like a Caribbean tropical ocean Miami Vice
Speaker 2: eighties digital kind of look to it, pixelated and vapor wave.
Speaker 2: What people are kind of what people were kind of
Speaker 2: talking about is why is it so relaxing? Why is
Speaker 2: it so inviting? Why why are people so captivated by it?
Speaker 2: Same thing with like Miami Vice, you know, it put
Speaker 2: people almost in a trance.
Speaker 1: They a lot of palm trees, huh.
Speaker 2: Yep, tons of palm trees, dolphins, So that's another thing.
Speaker 2: It's it's like uniquely Florida codd Now.
Speaker 1: Are you free Masonic here?
Speaker 2: Lot yep, lots of Masonic elements. It kind of looked
Speaker 2: like those Masonic you know, pieces of art you're showing
Speaker 2: what do they call them? Drafting tables, tracing boards, Yeah,
Speaker 2: tracing boards, and you'll always see like the grid, like
Speaker 2: like the gnostic uh, like like demi Urge matrix grid,
Speaker 2: the checkered floors, this or that, like everything's on the chessboard.
Speaker 2: But also like aquatics, so it's kind of like the
Speaker 2: sunken ruins of Atlantis a lot of times come up
Speaker 2: and then the pillars two pillars, and then palm trees
Speaker 2: are like an ever present motif. And so vapor wave
Speaker 2: that's kind of what I call more like synth wave
Speaker 2: or like neo noir more like the cars and stuff.
Speaker 2: But the true vapor wave is like Florida elements stripped
Speaker 2: down to their core, just kind of like lodgepodged onto
Speaker 2: one image. And I've made the argument that the vapor
Speaker 2: wave phenomenon could be explained by the Garden of Eden
Speaker 2: and Florida theory. There's a chance that Florida, the memory
Speaker 2: of Florida, occupies the mind, or inhabits some part of
Speaker 2: the human mind, the distant mind, the subconscious, and we
Speaker 2: all have this vague memory of Florida. You know, these
Speaker 2: almost like Adam and even Florida, the palm trees, the
Speaker 2: flat land, the programming of reality kind of all tied in.
Speaker 2: So it's you know, that's not the most well thought
Speaker 2: out idea I've ever had, but there's something to it.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it looks like the fucking Epstein. Some of
Speaker 2: it looks like the Epstein Island.
Speaker 1: Which again, if you look at this right, what an
Speaker 1: interesting piece of architecture, and the why would anybody build this?
Speaker 1: And this right, all these different lines, and it's like, again,
Speaker 1: this seems like it was used for a ritual. You
Speaker 1: trace these like the sufis, you know, the sufis that
Speaker 1: spin around and they enter altered states of consciousness from
Speaker 1: the spinning You ever seen the spinning dervishes where they
Speaker 1: just spin for hours and hours and hours, and they
Speaker 1: enter an altered state of consciousness where they're just flowing.
Speaker 1: And I think that these lines are used for that,
Speaker 1: just walking back and forth over and over and over
Speaker 1: again and to enter another state of consciousness.
Speaker 2: And yeah, well the labyrinth played a yes, significant role
Speaker 2: in initiatory rights and stuff like that throughout history many cultures.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that right part of freemasonry
Speaker 1: is angles angels. And one of the one of my
Speaker 1: favorite concepts ever that I've talked about before is the
Speaker 1: concept of Pythagorean palaces where there were certain and this
Speaker 1: is taught you know, towards the Renaissance around there. There's
Speaker 1: a reason why all these palaces were built the way
Speaker 1: that they were built, right, they were chasing that golden
Speaker 1: ratio right where you know, for the Tagoians, God was
Speaker 1: a number, right, they worship numbers, and you know, towards
Speaker 1: the Renaissance era they believe that if you built a
Speaker 1: building or a palace to certain geometrical proportions, which geometry
Speaker 1: is part of freemasonry, right, that they could if they
Speaker 1: built it to certain geometrical proportions, the perfect proportions, they
Speaker 1: could elevate the consciousness within those whoever was in that building,
Speaker 1: they could elevate the consciousness of the people within it.
Speaker 1: So that's why Freemasonic lodges are built the way that
Speaker 1: they're built. That's why a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: temples are built the way that they're built because and
Speaker 1: if you look at like old temples over in the
Speaker 1: Middle East that have the mondolas on the ceilings, that's
Speaker 1: for people to again look at and enter altered states
Speaker 1: of consciousness. If you're tripping your ass off on some
Speaker 1: psychedelic and you look up at one of those scenes,
Speaker 1: that's a mondola, right, you're being transported somewhere else. And
Speaker 1: I think that this concept of Pythegoroa and Palace is
Speaker 1: you can take it and you can expand it further
Speaker 1: to build a city or a town or anywhere else
Speaker 1: a bigger thing. And what if that's what Atlantis was,
Speaker 1: where they built this beautiful architecture and they built up
Speaker 1: the city to such a perfect geometric proportion that they
Speaker 1: elevated the consciousness of everybody there because that's what Atlantis
Speaker 1: is all about, right, which is connected to Florida too.
Speaker 1: You have the Bomeny Road and everything else.
Speaker 2: Listen, you want to I just thought of something real quick.
Speaker 2: You want to hear it? Yeah, okay, remember we almost
Speaker 2: did a show about Tomorrowland. Yes, okay, and bear with me.
Speaker 2: What did they say that palm is a Hebrew.
Speaker 1: To tomorrow to be erect.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow tomorrowland tomorrow tomorrow. Maybe nothing, maybe something? But what
Speaker 2: is Tomorrowland about? It is about the mind palace, like
Speaker 2: the collective mind palace of these people who want to
Speaker 2: almost start like a breakaway.
Speaker 1: No, but you know what they want to start it
Speaker 1: with with little kids with children.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. It's like the Disney Atlantis in the sky.
Speaker 1: It's the Disney wet dream bro. They have all these kids.
Speaker 1: Oh they're super brilliant. They're using their their elevating and
Speaker 1: they're doing all these inventions there. It's like it's a
Speaker 1: bunch of kids, which is super like the creepy.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like the Pied Piper almost like they
Speaker 2: take the kids into another dimension.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, quite literally. So this is the Knights of
Speaker 1: the Palm Tree initiation. Ritual and the word seccaton is
Speaker 1: the plural of suka meaning booth or tabernacle and Hebrew,
Speaker 1: which is a wall structured covered with planet material such
Speaker 1: as overgrowth or palm trees.
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, and that's what the Seminoles live in.
Speaker 2: Is pretty much sukoat. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And there's a what in Florida, there's a what you've
Speaker 1: I think I think you've been there. Now there's the Tabernacle.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, a replica of the whole, like a
Speaker 2: temple complex in the desert.
Speaker 1: Where is this place at? What's it called again?
Speaker 2: It's in tarp And Springs, I think, or near there.
Speaker 1: Tarp And Springs. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the primary permanent exhibition in the state is the
Speaker 1: Leslie Haile Tabernacle in the Wilderness and Bible Museum located
Speaker 1: in tarp And Springs.
Speaker 2: So that shows we can't see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna bring it down now. Nice you see
Speaker 1: if they have Okay, well, anyways, this is it.
Speaker 2: Don't watch the video. We don't want to get copyrighted.
Speaker 1: So this is a replica of the Tabernacle, and you
Speaker 1: have the Park of the Covenant, like we know what
Speaker 1: did they use this for? They use this to what
Speaker 1: to communicate with God, right to God.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, that's crazy. I got to
Speaker 2: go visit there. I've never been there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should go.
Speaker 2: Let's go, dude, let's do it.
Speaker 1: I think we should. Again, we're overdue for a meet up,
Speaker 1: so there's a few places we can get up. We
Speaker 1: can either go, say in Augustine or something. And so
Speaker 1: this Nights of the Palm Tree Initiation ritual, essentially they
Speaker 1: have they sent they sent the candidate, you know, to
Speaker 1: uh into this altered state to essentially travel through the
Speaker 1: desert and uh and think about it, pitching the tabernacle
Speaker 1: and inducting the candidate, pitching the right. Oh, you're you're
Speaker 1: so a wreck, bro, You're a wreck like a palm tree.
Speaker 2: Oh here, now this is probably a good point to segue.
Speaker 2: And you're right, pitching a tent, you know the sexual innumendo,
Speaker 2: you know, pitching a tent.
Speaker 1: You saw a wreck, bro.
Speaker 2: Now that brings us to something I've talked about a
Speaker 2: couple of times. Palm trees are like palm trees. But
Speaker 2: when we're playing with words, can we reinterpret the meaning
Speaker 2: palm palm tree? What tree fits in your palm, what trunk,
Speaker 2: what would cannot be? Not to be lude, not trying
Speaker 2: to be graphic or lude or not trying to pull
Speaker 2: a Robert Stepper. Here Truck talks about Dix the whole episode.
Speaker 1: Does he do that?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, the the five officers having assembled in a
Speaker 1: secure place together with all sir knights of the vicinage,
Speaker 1: an object representing the palm tree is set up in
Speaker 1: the midst and the apartment is prepared according to esoteric instruction,
Speaker 1: and the candidate is introduced. Yeah, they introduce you to
Speaker 1: a palm tree.
Speaker 2: All right, So you know the tree of life, the
Speaker 2: tree of knowledge of good and evil. There is kind
Speaker 2: of a conversation to be had about sexual activity that
Speaker 2: does not result in conception or you know, pregnancy. You
Speaker 2: one way to interpret the Tree of Life and the
Speaker 2: Tree of Knowledge of Good and evil, which I did
Speaker 2: not come up with. It's one of the most popular
Speaker 2: alternative explanations is sexuality. So the tree of life is
Speaker 2: like a family tree life, you know, having kids, being
Speaker 2: fruitful what the Bible tells us to do. And then
Speaker 2: the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil is kind
Speaker 2: of according to this theory. According to this interpretation, is
Speaker 2: all sexual activity that does not result in the conception
Speaker 2: of an egg, right, fertilization of an egg. So that
Speaker 2: could be masturbation, that could be you know, various types
Speaker 2: of whatever types of sex that are you know, more
Speaker 2: fornicative by nature because they cannot result in having children.
Speaker 2: People have long interpreted that as the uh knowledge, you know,
Speaker 2: fruit of knowledge of good and evil, because it's kind
Speaker 2: of death, you know, it's those life forces are not
Speaker 2: completing their mission. They're dying, or they're serving some other mission,
Speaker 2: maybe a more selfish, selfish mission, like people talk about enlightenment.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck yourself, you know, ejaculation. Swans talked about the
Speaker 2: skull fuck method a couple of.
Speaker 1: Times, yes, which it actually works, not even I bet
Speaker 1: so check this out. Oh graceful chaft that send us
Speaker 1: thy shade afar. Oh brother, you're so erect. So this
Speaker 1: is actually the initiation ritual and what they do, and
Speaker 1: they they assigned the candidate a name. The candidate is
Speaker 1: given a new name Tamar, signifying a palm tree, and
Speaker 1: is inducted as a novitate of the palm tree. So
Speaker 1: again there's a whole sect of freemasonry that focuses on
Speaker 1: the palm tree and the shafts. I'm sure, I'm sure
Speaker 1: they love that, you know, the shafts. And if you
Speaker 1: I related this to the parallel lines touching, they are
Speaker 1: said to right. So these two lines represent Saint John
Speaker 1: the Baptist and Saint John the Evangelist, but they really
Speaker 1: refer to the solsticial points cancer and Capricorn and the zodiac.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you can speak on this
Speaker 1: at all. Long ago where the first record example, the
Speaker 1: cancer constellation came from the second millennium BC, where it
Speaker 1: was known to a Kadian a straw astronomers as the
Speaker 1: Sun of the South. This was most likely due to
Speaker 1: its position at the summer solstice during ancient antiquity. By
Speaker 1: Classic antiquity, cancer came to be called the Gate of Man,
Speaker 1: based on the belief that it was a portal through
Speaker 1: which souls came and went from the heavens.
Speaker 2: So well, serious, serious is in cancer the sign of
Speaker 2: cancer that the dog star. Yep. So that's you know,
Speaker 2: a big focal point.
Speaker 1: For a lot of god backwards.
Speaker 2: Mysticism and occult you know, interests the underworld. People associate
Speaker 2: with Sirius and Osiris and you know.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so Palm Tree, you're absolutely right. Plan. You know,
Speaker 2: the Templars, the Masons, they're very phallic in a lot
Speaker 2: of their you know, their attitudes and what they venerated.
Speaker 2: They where they were into a lot of the hanky
Speaker 2: panky and allegedly but Palm Tree at the masturbation. You know,
Speaker 2: we've heard about skull and bones initiations where you have
Speaker 2: to like jerk off or pretend to jerk off in
Speaker 2: front of everyone. But also you know, as far as
Speaker 2: what was the sin maybe the fruit of knowledge good
Speaker 2: and evil. There's also in the Bible there's various kind
Speaker 2: of warnings or at least lessons about pulling out right,
Speaker 2: which kind of reiterate the concept of being sexual without
Speaker 2: being fruitful is perhaps looked down upon or opens up
Speaker 2: a whole other avenue of human understanding that is perhaps true,
Speaker 2: and is you know what welcomed like genius and industry
Speaker 2: and kind of going against nature. And I want, I
Speaker 2: say going against nature. I'm not bringing like a ethical
Speaker 2: or moral side to what I'm saying going against nature
Speaker 2: in the side of coming up with all these industries
Speaker 2: to make our lives easier, to kind of get around
Speaker 2: some of nature's defense mechanisms or firewalls, like clothing, fire technology,
Speaker 2: things that lifted us up away from the other animals.
Speaker 2: People point to a shift in sexuality early on as
Speaker 2: being what, really, if we're going to look at this
Speaker 2: in a kind of evolutionary lens, like what branched us
Speaker 2: all from the other animals is you know, not many
Speaker 2: animals have like sex for fun, but some of the
Speaker 2: ones who do are very intelligent and almost look like
Speaker 2: they are alien species as well, like dolphins. Right, So,
Speaker 2: going back to the vapor wave thing, there's dolphins and
Speaker 2: a lot of that artwork, and dolphins are known to
Speaker 2: be kind of malicious, conniving, and also they have sex
Speaker 2: for gratification.
Speaker 1: They're a little they're a little grapy.
Speaker 2: Now, apparently Epstein likes dolphins, or at least he definitely
Speaker 2: liked atlantis. But right here, let's let me talk about
Speaker 2: some other trees.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, let me just bring this up in royal
Speaker 1: arc or royal arch freemasonry, right because earlier we talked
Speaker 1: about how they hide it in plain sight. Well, these
Speaker 1: are some some illustrations from some of the different levels
Speaker 1: of royal arc royal arch freemasonry, and what do you
Speaker 1: see on the walls, you have the the palm trees. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he could be right, maybe he might be the the
Speaker 1: sye op And then if you have you if you
Speaker 1: take the scientific name of the date, palms equals sixty nine,
Speaker 1: which we see sixty nine a lot where right can
Speaker 1: answer that portal and we see it as right the
Speaker 1: cornerstone and we'll arc which again it's part in my opinion,
Speaker 1: I think that they understand these esosteric concepts. And you
Speaker 1: can take these two pillars as in my opinion holding
Speaker 1: up right reality right, and it holds up the portal
Speaker 1: into which you could go in through.
Speaker 2: So you know you were asking about like the sun
Speaker 2: of the south and cancer and what does that have
Speaker 2: to do with things? Well, cancer is up there at
Speaker 2: the top of the arch in masonry, which is interesting
Speaker 2: because in an astrology chart, cancers at the bottom of
Speaker 2: the arch, so they kind of they kind of flop
Speaker 2: that a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it, though, bro, because if
Speaker 1: you look at if you look at the tracing boards,
Speaker 1: the tracing boards are freemasonry. The the directions are actually inverted.
Speaker 2: So since we're on the look.
Speaker 1: At the directions, north is here, East is up south west.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and an astrology chart east is supposed to
Speaker 2: be in the left, but they since we're kind of
Speaker 2: still on sexuality a little bit. You know, the glyph
Speaker 2: for cancer. People know cancer is the crab, but the
Speaker 2: glyph for cancer is sixty nine. Yes, so there's another
Speaker 2: little you know thing. Now, palm trees. The box saga
Speaker 2: puts a kind of kind of a big emphasis on
Speaker 2: palm trees as well. But all right, but.
Speaker 1: Let's let's touch on something that you wanted to talk about,
Speaker 1: because this is what really stemmed the whole thing for
Speaker 1: me is when I was looking into Robert Flood, and
Speaker 1: Robert Flood interprets the tree of life as far as
Speaker 1: Kabbala goes as in my opinion, an upside down palm tree. Right, this,
Speaker 1: it's inverted. It's not supposed to be like this. I
Speaker 1: flipped it, but it should be up. So the the
Speaker 1: the root, and and the way that they interpret it
Speaker 1: is right. The root. Everything comes from God, which is
Speaker 1: the root, and and then reality itself sort of bleeds
Speaker 1: down from that. But I flipped it upside down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't go like this, let me, it goes like this.
Speaker 1: So this is Robert Flood's Tree of Life, which it's
Speaker 1: one of the only ones that's interpreted as a tree.
Speaker 1: But in my opinion, it's a palm tree. Okay, because
Speaker 1: if you look at the the anatomy of a this
Speaker 1: is a palm tree. It's in my opinion, it's the same. Right.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's got these little offshoots, but so does a
Speaker 1: date palm. Right, they have these little So I think
Speaker 1: that he was in the know, one of the main
Speaker 1: guys that one of the main proponents of Rosicrucianism, right,
Speaker 1: Robert Flood.
Speaker 2: So he was also a big on writing. He I
Speaker 2: don't know about big, but he remarked on how star
Speaker 2: forks had sacred geometry in them. He was one of
Speaker 2: the first guys to talk about the mystical like meaning
Speaker 2: or interpretation of star fords, saying, well, if they look
Speaker 2: like sacred symbols, you know, even if they weren't designed
Speaker 2: for that, it still has some significance.
Speaker 1: And one last thing before we move on, that is
Speaker 1: pretty interesting to me is that the well this involves
Speaker 1: Philip K. Dick. Yeah, that's not I talked about Carl Young.
Speaker 1: But let's now let's move on. I'll save this for
Speaker 1: a presentation, but point being that John of pat Most
Speaker 1: that wrote Revelation. Pat Most is known as the land
Speaker 1: of the palm Tree. I believe so pat Most the
Speaker 1: palm tree. Yeah, the Patmost is a Greek island in
Speaker 1: the a GNC, famous as the place where the apostle
Speaker 1: John was exiled and wrote the Book of Revelation, often
Speaker 1: associated with the name Palmosa, and the palm tree is historical,
Speaker 1: so historically the rugged rocket Dancy has very few palm trees.
Speaker 1: But I have to find the slide. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff. You're obviously one hundred and twenty four slides
Speaker 1: and I'm just jumping around and as you can see
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole that I was in at the time
Speaker 1: with the palm tree and all of its connections. And
Speaker 1: then I didn't even link it to alchemy or the matrix.
Speaker 1: There's there's so many different things. Once you start to
Speaker 1: really sit down and look at it, it's like, WHOA
Speaker 1: what that's.
Speaker 2: Cool, man, you know. And we were talking about the
Speaker 2: fig a little bit before. You've heard about figs and wasps. No, okay,
Speaker 2: So figs are fertilized or kind of like they reproduce
Speaker 2: in a very interesting way. Some fig trees rely on
Speaker 2: wasps to crawl into their fruit, and they, if you
Speaker 2: want to talk about symbolism and allegory, okay, wasps lay
Speaker 2: their children in figs, the fruit and when we eat
Speaker 2: figs sometimes they have little pieces of wasps in them
Speaker 2: and the figs. Yeah, this is true. So figs. Many
Speaker 2: people do not believe figs are vegan because they have
Speaker 2: dead wasps in them, and the wasp crawls in and
Speaker 2: it rips their wings off. When they crawl in, they
Speaker 2: have to squeeze in a tiny little hole and it
Speaker 2: rips their wings off, so they're dead. Then they lay
Speaker 2: their babies in the wasp sorry, in the fig. You know,
Speaker 2: kind of like the chicken or the egg. You know
Speaker 2: how this really start. They're not just laying their kids
Speaker 2: in the fig. Well, yeah, they do. They lay eggs
Speaker 2: in the fig. They die in the fig because they
Speaker 2: can't leave, and then the males. The males wake up first,
Speaker 2: they hatch first, and as they're leaving, they impregnate their
Speaker 2: unborn sisters in the in the fig. You gotta you
Speaker 2: gotta get a sandboard, like oh hell nah, yep, one
Speaker 2: of those. So they impregnate their unborn sisters in in
Speaker 2: while they're still in like a larvae form, and then
Speaker 2: they die. They don't live very long at all. The
Speaker 2: male wasps they're dead like right away. And then the
Speaker 2: female wasps crawl out of the little hole because they're
Speaker 2: small and their wings aren't fully developed, and they then
Speaker 2: it's their job to fly to a new to a
Speaker 2: new fig. So that's how figs, figs and wasps. I'm
Speaker 2: probably missing a little some specific song there.
Speaker 1: But you know what's interesting, bro that if we look
Speaker 1: at the one of the stories, the sister of Absalom,
Speaker 1: the third son of King David this tomorrow is great
Speaker 1: by her half brother Amnon, right, this is in the Bible.
Speaker 1: Two years later he is assassinated. But right, the way
Speaker 1: you're talking about the wasp andmpregnating, you know, being involved
Speaker 1: in incest sort of a thing, right, It kind of
Speaker 1: made me think about that. But yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, interesting connections when it comes to when.
Speaker 2: You say wasps. When you say it like that wasps
Speaker 2: involved in incests, it literally makes me think of Jamie
Speaker 2: Lanister and Sir c Lanister, like Game of Thrones or
Speaker 2: like a wasp the like white like white Anglo Sacs
Speaker 2: and Protestant rich family, like having an incestual relationship.
Speaker 1: And you know they you mentioned pulling out earlier. And
Speaker 1: the three women, and yeah you did. The three that
Speaker 1: there are three women and two named Tamar in the Bible.
Speaker 1: The women are the wife of Earth so and of Judah.
Speaker 1: After is that she becomes the mother Judas twin son
Speaker 1: Perez and Zara Perez went to become the ancestor of
Speaker 1: King David. And thus Jesus Christ tomorrow is one of
Speaker 1: the four women mentioned by name of the Matthean genealogy
Speaker 1: of Christ. And then Onan And this is this is
Speaker 1: where I learned through my esoteric studies what Coitus interrupted
Speaker 1: was right. So Ohnn performed Coitus interrupts and I was like, bro,
Speaker 1: what like what does that even mean? Right? His actions
Speaker 1: displease God, and so like his older brother, God killed him.
Speaker 1: At this point, Judah's portrayed his viewing Tomorrow to be
Speaker 1: cursed and therefore being reluctant to give her his remaining
Speaker 1: and youngest son, Sheila. But yeah, Coitus interruptis is pulling out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pulling out. It could also be like edging or
Speaker 2: like gooning, which is really big right now. And this
Speaker 2: really ties back to Jeffrey Epstein a little bit, because
Speaker 2: you ever see that Robert Seppar video where he was
Speaker 2: like really trying really hard to like make the case
Speaker 2: that Jeffrey Epstein was like a master, like not master,
Speaker 2: but like a tom trick practitioner, and he was like
Speaker 2: awakening his Kundalini by getting massages from thirty.
Speaker 1: I never watched I never really watched that guy's stuff, bro.
Speaker 2: And yeah, let me let me well, you don't have to,
Speaker 2: let me give you an impress of how it went.
Speaker 1: Oh God, here we go.
Speaker 2: Little Saint James Island is an island in the Caribbean.
Speaker 2: Five minutes later, by not ejaculating and forcing the for
Speaker 2: you know, forces upward, one is able to attain new
Speaker 2: levels of consciousness. It's like I already made this joke
Speaker 2: like a week ago. It's like, the Poll is a
Speaker 2: country in Asia. This is your average Robert sepper video.
Speaker 2: Just name any country, so like the Poll is a
Speaker 2: country in Asia known for its rich history and cuisine.
Speaker 2: By the by the end of the video, no matter
Speaker 2: what the video's about, by the end of the video,
Speaker 2: he's talking about you jerking off or not drinking.
Speaker 1: Really, are you talking about semen retention and stuff like.
Speaker 2: That, yep. I mean that's how you get it in there,
Speaker 2: you know, dress it up however you want. What it
Speaker 2: really is is trying to get involved in everyone's sex life, okay,
Speaker 2: And I think it's nasty and weird. And no matter
Speaker 2: what he tries to make a video about, he has
Speaker 2: to tie it back into that. It's like compulsive behavior
Speaker 2: and it's alarming for me.
Speaker 1: Huh, yeah, I know. Somebody hit. Somebody actually had wrote
Speaker 1: to me on Instagram and they were like, hey, set
Speaker 1: First said that he's going to be doing a podcast soon.
Speaker 1: You should get him on your podcast, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I wrote back, I'm like, well, I don't really. I
Speaker 1: I've never watched any of it. I've watched maybe like
Speaker 1: the beginning of a video or something, but I've never
Speaker 1: like sat down and watched this stuff. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: and if he's going to go on a podcast for
Speaker 1: the first time, I doubt he would go on my
Speaker 1: podcast because my podcast isn't even that big, so I
Speaker 1: think he would save that for, you know, a bigger show.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure he's gotten a bunch of people reaching
Speaker 1: out to him to do their show. So I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't really know. Now you're telling me this about
Speaker 1: him where it's all about edging edged lords. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: holding it in. I know that, bro.
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm not against the principle. I'm actually completely in
Speaker 2: favor of not wasting those vital fluids.
Speaker 1: Very boxing saga of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not wasting them as much as possible. But the
Speaker 2: fact that he tries to get up on people and
Speaker 2: either make the you know, and you try to influence
Speaker 2: them to conform to his you know, beliefs, try and
Speaker 2: tell people that things are bad, like it's coming from
Speaker 2: a very gnostic place that I really don't like. And
Speaker 2: he always puts, you know, he says like, you know,
Speaker 2: he makes these little disclaimers like, oh, I'm not telling
Speaker 2: people what to do or this or that, but your interests,
Speaker 2: our interests betray who we are, you know, they reveal
Speaker 2: who we are. Why long ago got a hate so
Speaker 2: much because I'm a hater, because I'm a hater. And
Speaker 2: when you grow up watching someone it's not so much
Speaker 2: like don't meet your heroes, but after a time, you're
Speaker 2: influenced by people a lot after a certain point, you
Speaker 2: kind of only get let down by what you find out.
Speaker 2: And for supper, I wish he'd I wish he'd impressed me.
Speaker 2: Not that that's his job or it's important or I
Speaker 2: deserve that, but because and you know what Juan's saying,
Speaker 2: like he doesn't he doesn't really interact with his fans truly.
Speaker 2: He's very distant and behind the screen, and he likes
Speaker 2: to keep a big distance, like a buffer between him
Speaker 2: and his supporters. He has a very hard time, it seems,
Speaker 2: being like authentic. I mean, he seems like he has
Speaker 2: to sit down and type out every idea he has
Speaker 2: or else it's not really his. Like he can't just
Speaker 2: be himself in front of a camera. Sometimes he walks
Speaker 2: around and like films himself live, you know, briefly, or
Speaker 2: he takes some questions on X but usually his camera's off.
Speaker 2: There's something you know, he just strikes me as he
Speaker 2: can't really be himself, or he's not happy or comfortable
Speaker 2: with himself, or he's being very deceptive. You know, you
Speaker 2: don't have to be like a public attention seeking person,
Speaker 2: but he does want attention, and the way he goes
Speaker 2: about it, I think are weird. He's very vague about
Speaker 2: his murky ancestry. He claim. He's openly said he's Jewish before,
Speaker 2: but if you call him Jewish, he gets angry. He
Speaker 2: is obsessed with, like, you know, Germany during World War Two,
Speaker 2: and he really tries to tiptoe the line and be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm based, Yeah I'm based, you know, oh I'm But
Speaker 2: he's really far from that. So who his father was
Speaker 2: is kind of suspicious. The fact that he seems to
Speaker 2: have a totally different view from his father on certain
Speaker 2: historic events. And again I don't know the ends and
Speaker 2: the outs. He knows his father better at better than
Speaker 2: anyone probably, but Robert Sepper strikes me as untrustworthy. He
Speaker 2: has an agenda, He seems to have a lot of
Speaker 2: anger and bitterness. As someone who's not very racially sensitive,
Speaker 2: I can say I do think my opinion that Robert
Speaker 2: Sepper is an actual racist who thinks very very low
Speaker 2: of black and brown people, not just critical, not just
Speaker 2: like critical of like the culture and crime. And I
Speaker 2: really do think he looks very down on them from
Speaker 2: what I've seen, because people hide that stuff. You know,
Speaker 2: with me, what you see is what you get, take,
Speaker 2: you take it or leave it?
Speaker 1: What was that? But yo, uh so I misspoke earlier
Speaker 1: right as pat most there was a single poem and
Speaker 1: then Jericho is known as the city of pom I
Speaker 1: just want to correct that real quick.
Speaker 2: But yeah, on trying to move one's trying to move on.
Speaker 2: He's not trying to piss off his.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't care. I don't know the guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, and and and to his defense, right about
Speaker 1: being socially awkward, I mean, we're all if we're in
Speaker 1: this community, we're weird, right, we're social. I'm socially awkward, right,
Speaker 1: And I think some people are more comfortable behind a screen.
Speaker 1: Uh you know. I mean I think it's just to
Speaker 1: come to his defense, right, I don't know the guy,
Speaker 1: but that's probably right. Maybe we're all a little autistic
Speaker 1: on some level, right. I think if you're into this
Speaker 1: sort of stuff, you gotta be you gotta be able
Speaker 1: to think outside the box. But again, I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't know. It was just interesting that you brought him
Speaker 1: up and somebody had hit me up on Instagram about him,
Speaker 1: and I was like, dude, I'm never even like, I'm
Speaker 1: not a I'm not a fan, right, Like I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't sit there and watch this stuff. But sure,
Speaker 1: and yeah, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you know I used to. I grew up
Speaker 2: watching his stuff. Like in high school, I really liked
Speaker 2: Robert Sepper's videos. And then I get a little older.
Speaker 2: The kind of vague, you know, the kind of vague
Speaker 2: right wing tilts to his video kind of rubs off
Speaker 2: after a while and you realize there's not really a
Speaker 2: whole lot of like substance or solutions in there. It's
Speaker 2: you know, an hey, my YouTube channel is a fucking mess.
Speaker 2: So it's not like I'm saying. I'm saying I've got
Speaker 2: it all figured out over here. But if someone's asking
Speaker 2: my opinion, which no one really did, I I find
Speaker 2: him untrustworthy, dark and deceptive, but yeah, and steering. He's
Speaker 2: attempting to steer the right wing, the nationalistic people in
Speaker 2: a direction that I don't agree with.
Speaker 1: And there you go, Yeah, this is this is what
Speaker 1: we got from talking about those girthy palm trees and
Speaker 1: and being erect and you're you're casting your shadow on me.
Speaker 2: Bro Oh he's not short. Someone said he's short. He's
Speaker 2: not short, he's tall. I know, I know people who've
Speaker 2: met him.
Speaker 1: Believe it or not, He's not like a narc over here.
Speaker 1: Five foot five foot three, is it, dude? Five foot three,
Speaker 1: five foot five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give or take the six inches your mom?
Speaker 1: That your that your mom like, yeah, we do. We've
Speaker 1: heard it at Farm Browns. You can't. I got you
Speaker 1: before you got me. You see how I know you wrote?
Speaker 2: Give her take six or seven inches?
Speaker 1: Oh graceful chef, that sense nice shade afar oh wreck
Speaker 1: like a palm anyways, Yes, the palm trees, I think
Speaker 1: is a good, strong candidate to being one of the
Speaker 1: tree of life or the tree of good and evil
Speaker 1: and of the knowledge of good and evil. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing a whole breakdown of this. I
Speaker 1: actually have to remember a whole bunch of stuff that
Speaker 1: I that I wrote down here because at the time
Speaker 1: I was kind of skit so in a skitzo state
Speaker 1: of mind putting all this information together, and you can
Speaker 1: start drawing parallels where there are none right when it
Speaker 1: comes to this sort of stuff, because it's again, it's
Speaker 1: part of that. And that's why I had to take
Speaker 1: a break for so long, dude, where I had I mean,
Speaker 1: you know this, I mean you took a break too,
Speaker 1: because once you start looking into a lot of this stuff,
Speaker 1: it quite literally drives you insane, and everything around you
Speaker 1: can be collapsing, Your life can be collapsing right in
Speaker 1: front of you, and you're just like, what are these?
Speaker 1: What is the esoteric secrets of alchemy? Be? You know,
Speaker 1: what are they? And then like your life's falling apart,
Speaker 1: and like at the end of it all, you look
Speaker 1: and you just got to realize one thing that there's
Speaker 1: only God and you gotta find God and be good
Speaker 1: with God. And the rest is like none of this information.
Speaker 1: You can't do anything with this information, right, Like it
Speaker 1: does nothing for you at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: And like I had to step back and be like,
Speaker 1: what are we even doing here? And dude, when I
Speaker 1: was away, like I was away, I had I had,
Speaker 1: I did not keep up with like any conspiracies, nothing
Speaker 1: like nothing of anything, And I'm just now getting back
Speaker 1: into everything and I'm just like, uh, you know, like
Speaker 1: I'm like, do I want to be here right now?
Speaker 1: You know? And honestly, I've I know, it's like riding
Speaker 1: a bike, but I've forgotten all of those stuff. I
Speaker 1: even like the homuncular stuff. But like, what was I
Speaker 1: even doing. I felt like it was a different person
Speaker 1: doing That's like a it's like a mind virus. Dude,
Speaker 1: I'm serious, I'm serious. So I had to step back
Speaker 1: and really take a breathe, and I'm just like, you
Speaker 1: gotta gotta just kind of let it marinate. And you know,
Speaker 1: I even thought about deleting the channel, deleting everything and
Speaker 1: like just stepping away and just disappearing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, not a bad option.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad option. D But yeah, I've talked
Speaker 1: about some stuff that I'm not looking back at, I'm
Speaker 1: not particularly proud of, you know, but again, it comes
Speaker 1: with the territory. And once you look into these things,
Speaker 1: there's it's it really no pun intended imprints you. And
Speaker 1: it's funny because I was I was at Bible study
Speaker 1: one night and one of the guys we were talking
Speaker 1: about we talked about we brought up Genesis and uh,
Speaker 1: one of the guys brings up the nephilum and he
Speaker 1: looks over and me goes, yeah, this is a this
Speaker 1: is a little weird. I know you probably don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about this or or really know much about this,
Speaker 1: but the nephlum and he's started getting into the netilim,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like thinking, in the back of my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm like, brother, you don't even know who you're talking
Speaker 1: to right now. I was like, yeah, I've I was like,
Speaker 1: that's the cool part of the you know. I just
Speaker 1: kind of like brushed it off, but I didn't really
Speaker 1: go into it. And but yeah, it's just like once
Speaker 1: you're in it, bro, it just it drives you insane
Speaker 1: and you start talking about whatever. This guy maybe, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe he's experiencing the same thing. You know, when you
Speaker 1: look into the esoteric and the occult, when you stare
Speaker 1: into the abyss, it starts staring back, and sometimes it's
Speaker 1: not good. It's not good, bro.
Speaker 2: But yeah, here, there's some other candidates that we gotta
Speaker 2: talk about before we wrap up, all right, Yeah, so
Speaker 2: we talked about Gumbo Limbo real quick. There's also another
Speaker 2: one that I know we're gonna have fun pronouncing lignum
Speaker 2: nigam nuts he's Liganum.
Speaker 1: I got got him, bro, whatever, who cares? I don't
Speaker 1: have the sound? What what's it? What's your liga? Ligawa?
Speaker 2: Your mom's boyfriend's names v Ta Right, liganum vita. Uh
Speaker 2: lignum l I g n u M.
Speaker 1: V I t a e l I g m u
Speaker 1: n n n u M. Like Nancy, this one right here?
Speaker 2: What tree ligum vita Florida. Just search for you Florida. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there you go, Hollywood. Which one Hollywood? Just go to
Speaker 2: all like, let the see what the Yeah there you go.
Speaker 1: Oh native to South Florida and the Caribbean.
Speaker 2: Yep. So this one is called the tree of life,
Speaker 2: lignum vita, the wood of life, the tree of life,
Speaker 2: and that has been that's had that name for hundreds
Speaker 2: of years. So the Spanish came and heard good things
Speaker 2: about this tree. It's used for medicine, some other things,
Speaker 2: but very valuable, you know, cherished tree by the Florida Indians. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So lignum is wood or tree and vita is life.
Speaker 2: Go to the Wikipedia for it. See what it says.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to Oh, let's see you Wikipedia. I know,
Speaker 1: I know you like to dig deeper than Wikipedia.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Guys, you say you say something wants
Speaker 2: to Huan that he doesn't like. He remembers it for
Speaker 2: the rest of the a era.
Speaker 1: We're making jokes about ligam I nuts, but lignum vita
Speaker 1: is Latin for a wood of life. I got, I
Speaker 1: got a wood for you here, bro, that's full of life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go. They used to call me that back in college,
Speaker 1: lignum vita, oh man. All right, and it's interesting, right
Speaker 1: they call it mourning wood, right when you wake up
Speaker 1: with with when you when you wake up erect right,
Speaker 1: they call it morning wood. So it's interesting, the wood
Speaker 1: of wood of life. And there's right, the morning wood
Speaker 1: is the wood of life.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, if you really want to go down that route,
Speaker 2: this is a good, good comment right here, Eric, Thanks Eric.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right here. Look at this apolo santo Spanish for
Speaker 1: holy stick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, paula can mean wood too. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's always stick.
Speaker 1: No, no tree, yeah, tree, tree or stick? So follow
Speaker 1: santo is the holy stick?
Speaker 2: Yeah No. In Sanskrit or Hindu or Hindu Hindi or
Speaker 2: one of those languages. Probably Sanskrit, penis is lingum, so
Speaker 2: lignum I think is Latin. Lingam is penis in Sanskrit.
Speaker 2: So that's pretty close.
Speaker 1: That's I thought I said heavy balls for a second,
Speaker 1: That's why I laughed. But it just says heavy bales,
Speaker 1: But that would have been crazy if it set heavy
Speaker 1: balls like that would have we would have just ended
Speaker 1: the show right then and there.
Speaker 2: Bro they make they make mallets though, like yeah, cricket, yeah,
Speaker 2: cricket balls.
Speaker 1: Very what what came first? Cricket or golf? Because I
Speaker 1: know we've gotten into the esoteric interpretations of golf and
Speaker 1: what golf kind of signifies, right, because the rich play
Speaker 1: a lot of golf, and they played they played essentially
Speaker 1: on the graves of the indigenous people at times, because
Speaker 1: a lot of these golf courses are built on old
Speaker 1: burial mounds and essentially graveyards right of people that the
Speaker 1: indigenous people.
Speaker 2: Now, you know, the tree of life is also the
Speaker 2: cabalistic concept. We were kind of touching on that before.
Speaker 2: There's tons of Cobba law centers in Florida. You know,
Speaker 2: numerology has been used in Florida ever since the Spanish
Speaker 2: first got here. You know, at they were work, you know,
Speaker 2: twisting the numbers and choosing special dates for certain things.
Speaker 2: And then by the time we get to like the
Speaker 2: Civil War or before the Civil War eighteen forty five,
Speaker 2: Florida's birthday was selected following you know, principles of Cabba
Speaker 2: law and Jametria. Three three March third, Florida's birthday, was
Speaker 2: chosen by the head. He was the Senator of Florida,
Speaker 2: first Florida's first senator, first Jewish senator in American history.
Speaker 2: He was also the lead, one of the leading Freemasons
Speaker 2: in Florida, in the head of at least one lodge,
Speaker 2: So he selected Florida's three three birthday, thirty three. You know,
Speaker 2: the coral castle's over there and the zip code three
Speaker 2: three D zero three three. And but so if you
Speaker 2: want to interpret the tree of life is cab la.
Speaker 2: You know, there's plenty of kabbala in Florida, so we
Speaker 2: can check that off the list.
Speaker 1: Check this out, check this part out. So this guy
Speaker 1: here recounts using lingdam vite presumably decocted, to cure himself
Speaker 1: of a neuro disease of the French pox, presumably syphilis.
Speaker 1: And then this other guy here, According to T. H.
Speaker 1: White's version of the Arthurian legend, the once and future
Speaker 1: King Merlin's wand is made of lingdam vitae and has
Speaker 1: magical power. So quite literally, right, because that's also another
Speaker 1: thing that we talked about when we talk about Crowley, right,
Speaker 1: Oh my wand is so it's so powerful. Well, part
Speaker 1: of that was what sexual rights, sexual rituals and things
Speaker 1: that they would do in order to what to invoke
Speaker 1: altered stage of consciousness, which we have you know, essentially
Speaker 1: sex magic and there where they believe that at orgasm
Speaker 1: you quite literally became one with the universe, and they
Speaker 1: would do these I mean we talked about Parsons not
Speaker 1: too long ago, right JPL, which is connected to Hubbard
Speaker 1: and Florida, where he was using sex magic as a
Speaker 1: way to you know, tap into the the source. I
Speaker 1: guess you could call it, right, that's what they believe.
Speaker 1: But it seems like Lingdam Vita was the original what
Speaker 1: Hollywood which we we've all heard that before. Hollywood is
Speaker 1: the tree where they made wands out of in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: California is where everything that goes down goes down. Right,
Speaker 1: It's it's a really bad place because of that. Well,
Speaker 1: it turns out might have been link Lingham Vta look
Speaker 1: at my nuts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we do have a Holywood Florida. Hollywood, Florida's
Speaker 2: betweens in between Miami and Fort Lauderdale. Fort Lauderdale, it's
Speaker 2: Florida kind of, Oh well, since we're on this, you know,
Speaker 2: Florida is almost like the pelvic floor of America. It's
Speaker 2: it's the between Florida and.
Speaker 1: Dallas of the USA.
Speaker 2: And Louisiana's like the the testicles, and then Texas is
Speaker 2: like the prostate or something.
Speaker 1: We're in the shaft right now. You're you're at towards
Speaker 1: the tip. I'm towards the shaft. Yeah, the girthy part.
Speaker 1: How do we get here?
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about the tree of life, Baya
Speaker 2: bab kate, park oak, lignum, vita, gumbo, limbo, the palm
Speaker 2: tree is now let's talk about the tree of knowledge
Speaker 2: of good and evil real quick. We already talked about
Speaker 2: the sexuality kind of Now, we do have a poison
Speaker 2: apple tree here in Florida. It's called the manchionel so
Speaker 2: m A N C H I.
Speaker 1: N the hippo main manchilil.
Speaker 2: Yep, go down, click on the Wikipedia. So the manchioneal
Speaker 2: tree is whoa widely considered widely considered the deadliest or
Speaker 2: most poisonous tree in the world, and it's there's not
Speaker 2: many of them, so they're kind of hard to find.
Speaker 2: So they're not that big of a problem. But the
Speaker 2: Spanish conquistadors when they first came to Florida, they would
Speaker 2: drop dead from these things.
Speaker 1: All the time.
Speaker 2: The manchioneal tree is so poisonous that if you're standing
Speaker 2: under one, just brushing into leaves or rubbing the the
Speaker 2: trunk too hard can cause burns. And if you are
Speaker 2: underneath the tree when it rains, if rain touches the
Speaker 2: tree then drops on you, you can get a burn from that.
Speaker 2: You can get serious burns from that.
Speaker 1: Whoa yep.
Speaker 2: Every single part of the tree is highly toxic. Now Allegedly,
Speaker 2: some some animals or reptiles can get close to the
Speaker 2: tree and have no issues with it.
Speaker 1: Milky white sap, but the fruit.
Speaker 2: Can kill you. Even though no deaths in recent times
Speaker 2: have been reported, the Spanish said people drop dead all
Speaker 2: the time because these taste good. At first. They taste
Speaker 2: like a spicy apple, like a nice, fresh, kind of blandish,
Speaker 2: more mild tasting apple, with like a peppery almost like gingery,
Speaker 2: burning flame to it. That's kind of good at first,
Speaker 2: and then the burning gets more and more intense, and
Speaker 2: your throat closes up, and you know, people survive it
Speaker 2: so it's not like it's a guaranteed, you know, ticket
Speaker 2: to hell or ticket to the afterlife. But it is
Speaker 2: extremely poisonous and deadly, and every single part of the
Speaker 2: plant is dangerous.
Speaker 1: What was the other apple we talked about earlier? Because
Speaker 1: knowing my ass, I'm going to be in the Everglades
Speaker 1: one day and I'm going to be like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is what was the other apple that we talked about,
Speaker 1: the one where the gator had it in its mouth?
Speaker 2: Is it the pond apple?
Speaker 1: You're talking the pond apple? I'd be like, man, this
Speaker 1: looks like a pond ass. Start eating. I'm like, dangn
Speaker 1: I kind of remember Narco talking about being it's a
Speaker 1: little spicy, you know, and then just like oh and
Speaker 1: then look at this our boy. Juan pond stillly On
Speaker 1: died shortly after an injury incurred in battle with the
Speaker 1: Caloosa in Florida, being struck by an arrow that had
Speaker 1: been poisoned with man chinni el sap so, the white
Speaker 1: milky substance of the.
Speaker 2: And so poons da leone. What are the odds he's
Speaker 2: looking for the Fountain of Youth or pretty much the
Speaker 2: same thing as the Garden of Eden. He's looking for
Speaker 2: this and he's killed by the poison. He's killed by
Speaker 2: a projectile coded in this poison. By the way, you know,
Speaker 2: not to give this guy too much attention. But the
Speaker 2: word christ, according to some people, Christ is the word
Speaker 2: the technical term for applying poison to a a projectile
Speaker 2: like an arrow or a weapon like that, to christ
Speaker 2: something like anointed. You know, Christ means like anointed in oil.
Speaker 2: You can also anoint something in poison. So christing is
Speaker 2: to apply poison to something.
Speaker 1: And two things that are interesting, right, what? What? What
Speaker 1: was allegedly Juan looking for the Fountain of Youth four?
Speaker 1: We remember what he was looking.
Speaker 2: At, his sexual impotency.
Speaker 1: Yes, ed yes. And also it's interesting that there's allegedly
Speaker 1: there's a lot of correlation between witches and apples. So
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of maybe this has something to do with
Speaker 1: it where, right, like a witch always has the apple.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting that we give apples to teachers, right,
Speaker 1: So it's like there's like all these different connections that
Speaker 1: you can and threads you can pull that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: one again, that's crazy. I don't know he died from that.
Speaker 1: I knew he died from being injured, but I hadn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this connection with.
Speaker 2: The That's yeah, that's why they couldn't heal him and
Speaker 2: why his pain his death was so agonizing.
Speaker 1: Yikes.
Speaker 2: But you know there's stories of like twenty people dropping
Speaker 2: dead from you know, landing on an island. All the
Speaker 2: people start eating this tree right away and then they
Speaker 2: all drop dead. The Spanish, you know, we're very aware
Speaker 2: of how deadly this tree was. So that's an option.
Speaker 2: That's a good one for the Tree of Knowledge of
Speaker 2: good and evil, but also.
Speaker 1: More evil on this on this one, more evil, but.
Speaker 2: Also well they said, you know, if you eat this,
Speaker 2: you'll die. So how many fruits can that be? There
Speaker 2: are actually not that many fruit in the world that
Speaker 2: will kill you or you know, right right away, just
Speaker 2: from me taking one bite. Yeah, the mansion ill can
Speaker 2: So as far as knowledge, I don't know what knowledge
Speaker 2: or wisdom is being granted there, but if you want
Speaker 2: to go down that road, that takes us to what
Speaker 2: I think is the most logical explanation. If this were
Speaker 2: an actual food, an actual fruit or food that was
Speaker 2: ingested and caused the changes described in the Bible, the
Speaker 2: fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil.
Speaker 2: When even adomated, it's said that their eyes were opened,
Speaker 2: like an epiphany or an awakening or realization. But also
Speaker 2: you can interpret that as pupils quite literally dilating, your
Speaker 2: pupils getting opened. The eyes open, and you see the
Speaker 2: world like gods. You know, you on a mushroom trip.
Speaker 2: You feel like you are you know, like you have
Speaker 2: access to hidden information. You know that like a layer
Speaker 2: of obstruction was peeled away from the universe and you
Speaker 2: can see, you know, some of the answers or explanations
Speaker 2: visually and the programming behind reality. And so that's one
Speaker 2: thing that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Magic mushrooms have been proposed as the fruit of knowledge
Speaker 2: of good and evil. People say, well, mushrooms aren't fruit.
Speaker 2: Yes they are, Yes, they are. Mushroom is fruit. It
Speaker 2: is the fruiting body of the organism. It is the
Speaker 2: sexual apparatus of the organism. That is fruit. That's the
Speaker 2: biblical definition of fruit, and that's the scientific definition of fruit.
Speaker 2: And thank you, Juan, that's correct. I didn't come up
Speaker 2: with this, Terrence McKenna didn't come up with this.
Speaker 1: This has been Tom marko Oleegro talked about it. The
Speaker 1: Holy Mushroom in the Cross. That was one of the
Speaker 1: first books I ever read.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we sell that book here too. A thousand years
Speaker 2: at least Christians have been painting mushrooms in art from
Speaker 2: the Garden of Eden right up until the Last Supper.
Speaker 2: Some people point to mushrooms. Again, I'm not fully endorsing
Speaker 2: like this gnostic belief that the only way to understand
Speaker 2: God is mushrooms. Totally not. But as far as what
Speaker 2: set us down the path originally of you know, this
Speaker 2: understanding that goes beyond just harmony with nature, you know, industry, warfare, deception,
Speaker 2: you know, makeup like all these fallen angel technologies or whatever.
Speaker 2: Mushrooms may have complicated life down here. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: for better or for worse, but complicated and opened up
Speaker 2: the doors of genius that bring knowledge, like it says,
Speaker 2: but also good and evil. Right, so knowledge of good
Speaker 2: but also knowledge of evil.
Speaker 1: So have you seen this the psychotria nervosa wild coffee?
Speaker 1: Because I looked up, like, you know, what sort of
Speaker 1: plants or fruits can induce, you know, psychedelic trips, and
Speaker 1: this came up, which is known as the Seminole Balsamo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and apparently it's well, there's reports of d M T
Speaker 1: in the in it, which, Yeah.
Speaker 2: We also have types of Acacia that are native to Florida,
Speaker 2: and Acasia is in the Bible. People say the burning
Speaker 2: bush was acacia.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But also we know Florida has plenty of mushrooms. We
Speaker 2: have two of the most popular types of mushrooms three Actually,
Speaker 2: what are they called psilocybin cubensus, So conventional psilocybin mushrooms
Speaker 2: are natives of Florida. It's not just a livestock thing.
Speaker 2: They were here before livestock ever came to Florida. But
Speaker 2: they do grow in the live stock, you know, they
Speaker 2: grow in the poop. But so, Psilocybin cubensus is native
Speaker 2: to Florida, especially the Gulf Coast, so it can grow
Speaker 2: out of the ground naturally. Then we also have Amanita
Speaker 2: per Amanita persisena, so not mascaria, but Amanita persisena is
Speaker 2: pretty much the exact same thing, except it is orange
Speaker 2: or peach colored instead of red. That's pretty much pretty
Speaker 2: much the only differences to oh yeah, oh, the same
Speaker 2: thing is it's the same thing as Amanita muscaria. It's
Speaker 2: the same thing. It's like a slight uh you know,
Speaker 2: offshoot slight difference, but so yeah, these ones work and
Speaker 2: uh trust me. Then also we do have another one
Speaker 2: that's very interesting. Uh, psilocybin Tampa neensus Tampa neiensis.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take nesis Tampa.
Speaker 2: Search psilocybin Tampa and insus.
Speaker 1: A menstrul cup. Let me look it up. Psilocybin psilocybin
Speaker 1: tam al right, Tampa tampaensis or.
Speaker 2: Tampaensas. So yeah, psilocybin tampas is one of you know,
Speaker 2: the mushrooms are not that popular, but uh, psilocybin Tampa
Speaker 2: and ensas produces what they're called sclereta sclera. What does
Speaker 2: it saying somewhere it's it's basically they're like truffles. They're
Speaker 2: truffle like masses that are that grow beneath the ground,
Speaker 2: the truffles, and they're called philosopher's stones. What are the
Speaker 2: odds of that? And this is one of the most
Speaker 2: popular mushrooms. This is one of the most popular mushrooms
Speaker 2: in the world. So this guy found some in Tampa
Speaker 2: in like the sixties or seventies, brought some. They made
Speaker 2: it to the black market, went over to Amsterdam and
Speaker 2: now Philosopher's stone is one of the number one recreational
Speaker 2: mushrooms in the world used today and they come from Tampa, Florida.
Speaker 2: Whoa philosopher's stone. How's that for? Garden of Eden and
Speaker 2: the fruit of knowledge of good and evil?
Speaker 1: So damn, that's great. I didn't know that part. Bro,
Speaker 1: that's pretty it's pretty wild. And again, like how I
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, the Book of Genesis is looked at by
Speaker 1: alchemists as the blueprints on how to create the philosopher's.
Speaker 2: And also not only are these nicknamed philosophers stones, they
Speaker 2: also are evocative or kind of reminiscent of the phoenix,
Speaker 2: so psilocybin tampasis. They can grow and poop, I think,
Speaker 2: but they are actually kind of famous for surviving wildfires,
Speaker 2: Like they pop up after a fire really, so yeah,
Speaker 2: so those those truffles, you know, the Philosopher's stones can
Speaker 2: survive fire, like the whole you know, like a whole
Speaker 2: pine forest will be burned down and the psilocybin tampasa
Speaker 2: survives because of the Philosopher's stone. So it's almost like
Speaker 2: the phoenix mushroom too. They have this relationship with fire
Speaker 2: and forest fires because you know, in Florida, the forests
Speaker 2: burn themselves down like every year on purpose naturally lightning
Speaker 2: tree falls. But so that's a really good candidate for
Speaker 2: the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil if it
Speaker 2: were a literal fruit or food or plant. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really interesting, dude. I had no idea about this.
Speaker 1: The Philosopher's Stone, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the little Apple of Death, Philosopher's Stone, all the
Speaker 2: different types of mushrooms.
Speaker 1: So it says in nature, sclosia are produced by fungus
Speaker 1: as a rare form of protection from wildfires and other
Speaker 1: natural disasters. That's crazy, dude. M hmm, that's wild. So
Speaker 1: what else do we got?
Speaker 2: Well, it's also not super related. But the first recreational
Speaker 2: or just legal semi legal mushroom dispensary in America was
Speaker 2: in Tampa too, in Eubore City.
Speaker 1: Really so yeah, I took I took mushrooms one time
Speaker 1: and I saw demons while I was on them, and
Speaker 1: I didn't take him over again.
Speaker 2: Jeez.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually grew with myself a five live clover.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you with the with the Dan. This has been
Speaker 1: gifted people memberships every week now. My leaf clover is
Speaker 1: the real O G. I appreciate you, BRO, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I did end up growing my own and it was
Speaker 1: It was one of the weirdest experiences that I think.
Speaker 1: I I think I took it. I think I took
Speaker 1: too much, BRO, took too much, and I was tripping
Speaker 1: my balls off for like twelve hours straight. I woke
Speaker 1: up the next morning and I couldn't like differentiate like
Speaker 1: reality and what like this. I was like this weird
Speaker 1: state of like in between like the metaphysical and physical.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: I I questioned my like my reality like it was
Speaker 1: to that point, I questioned my family, and my family
Speaker 1: was like even real like it was. I was crazy
Speaker 1: it was yeah, yeah I was, and yeah I saw it.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was bad. It was bad. So never I
Speaker 1: I never did it again. And what I actually did
Speaker 1: was I created some I was able to get you
Speaker 1: ever heard of mad honey? Yeah, I was able to
Speaker 1: get some of that. I never tried it. I literally
Speaker 1: bought it and I never tried it. And then what
Speaker 1: I did with my leftovers of the psilocybin was b strain,
Speaker 1: I believe it was. I ended up making what they
Speaker 1: call blue honey, and I mixed it with honey and
Speaker 1: it infuses this, you know, the the sills having in
Speaker 1: the honey, and I would use that sometimes to make
Speaker 1: coffee or like put you know, to sweeten my coffee
Speaker 1: up or anything that I was drinking. And at times
Speaker 1: I could tell when I would put a little bit
Speaker 1: too much because things would start, you know, you get
Speaker 1: real hot and you start, like the colors start to
Speaker 1: get a little bit more vivid than usually. Like I
Speaker 1: think I put too big of a spoonful in my
Speaker 1: coffee today because I can feel it. So I was
Speaker 1: essentially I was like microdosing you know, mushrooms for a while,
Speaker 1: but I never took like a full dosage because it
Speaker 1: freaked It freaked me out, dude. I was like hearing
Speaker 1: voices and it. It was like one of the craziest,
Speaker 1: craziest experiences. It was. It was a wild never again,
Speaker 1: oh man. But yeah, yeah, the colors start buzzing.
Speaker 2: Torn. Tell me more about that sometime.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: For so, we went through the different trees. We think
Speaker 2: maybe the tree of life, the trees we think maybe
Speaker 2: the tree of knowledge for good and evil. If you
Speaker 2: guys have any good ideas or recommendations, put them in
Speaker 2: the comments, you know, tell us what you think the
Speaker 2: Tree of life or Tree of Knowledge could be. And yeah, guys,
Speaker 2: go subscribe to Juan on Juan on YouTube if you
Speaker 2: aren't already, and we'll see you next week on Thursday.
Speaker 2: Anything you want to close with one like my hair,
Speaker 2: bro put that back on, put that back on.
Speaker 1: I look better like this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we're good.
Speaker 1: All right now, dude, this was is awesome. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be putting to that presentation whenever it's obviously you see,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of material, it's a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of different connections. But yeah, this was a ton
Speaker 1: of fun and really enjoyed this episode.
Speaker 2: I'm just teasing, man, you can keep your head your
Speaker 2: head off.
Speaker 1: No, it's all right, you know, I'm self conscious about that.
Speaker 2: Looks good, No, it looks good. But uh, all right, guys,
Speaker 2: stay tuned. We'll see this coming Thursday. Probably all right,
Speaker 2: audios later, Yeah, yeah, h.
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