Speaker 1: Seven thirty here fifty five CARRICD Talk Station, a very
Speaker 1: happy Friday, and so please do a special edition with
Speaker 1: retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis since we missed out on
Speaker 1: an opportunity due to a technical glitch. You know, sometimes
Speaker 1: without Joe, the show don't go, even though Shaw mac
Speaker 1: Man is doing a wonderful job covering for Joe. Better
Speaker 1: late than never. Welcome back Daniel Davis at the fifty
Speaker 1: five KRCY Morning Show. It's always a pleasure talking with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling really like almost withdrawal symptoms from heaven not
Speaker 1: talk to you on Tuesday, so I'm glad we made
Speaker 1: it up. It's always an enjoyable and engaging discussion and
Speaker 1: very informative. And I didn't get a topic from you,
Speaker 1: but I kind of assumed it would be a continuation
Speaker 1: of our ongoing discussion over the situation between Russia and Ukraine.
Speaker 1: And if you want to go in a different direction,
Speaker 1: that's fine. But I had to ask you about this
Speaker 1: because my friends over Breitbart were reporting the British Defense
Speaker 1: Minister was meeting yesterday. They got around thirty countries to
Speaker 1: move forward with plans on deploying troops to defend Ukraine
Speaker 1: or otherwise, you know, after a peace deal, is to
Speaker 1: gociated to secure the perimeter or something. They said two
Speaker 1: hundred military planners from thirty countries were working to develop
Speaker 1: plans for deepening European involvement in Ukraine. But here is
Speaker 1: the and it's not funny because we're talking about war
Speaker 1: and we're talking about people dying. But as Ripe art
Speaker 1: right real quick, as breipbart Wright's building a force big
Speaker 1: enough to act as a credible deterrent is proving a
Speaker 1: considerable effort for nations that strength their militaries after the
Speaker 1: Cold War, I mean, no kidding, I mean without us,
Speaker 1: they can't even defend themselves. How are they going to
Speaker 1: take on this large responsibility when they don't have any
Speaker 1: armies of any size any longer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is truly bizarre.
Speaker 3: I'll say their meeting today, by the way, that was
Speaker 3: the Coalition of the Willing Military arm meeting there yesterday.
Speaker 2: You're talking today.
Speaker 3: The defense ministers are meeting in Germany to talk about
Speaker 3: nwth AID, which apparently just a couple of hours ago
Speaker 3: was released like twenty twenty one billion dollars in additional
Speaker 3: something like that. But I mean, it's puzzling because the
Speaker 3: Russians are saying, hey, we're working with Trump to try
Speaker 3: to find a way to end this war, but we
Speaker 3: keep telling you that no NATO countries will be allowed
Speaker 3: any kind of a peacekeeping force at all.
Speaker 2: It's a complete and total non starter.
Speaker 3: So then the question has to be if we're telling
Speaker 3: you that's not even on the table for the Russian side,
Speaker 3: and you can't have them in there unless there's an
Speaker 3: agreement on both sides, then why are you going down
Speaker 3: a path that is not going to be acceptable to anyone?
Speaker 2: It is bizarre to me.
Speaker 3: And then, as you said, it's also alarming because they
Speaker 3: can't even come up with enough people even to put
Speaker 3: on paper that could go up in there. And I
Speaker 3: don't know that they realize it, but that is signaling
Speaker 3: significant weakness to the Russian side to get more bold
Speaker 3: because they see that their paper military on the whole
Speaker 3: Western side, and that's something that should trouble all of us.
Speaker 1: Well, yes, and I'm certain Russian intelligence is painfully well
Speaker 1: obviously aware of the limitations of the European Union's military forces.
Speaker 1: It you're I mean, you understand military warfare and deployment
Speaker 1: of troops. This isn't like if they had a sizable
Speaker 1: military force and sufficient assets and missile systems and weapons
Speaker 1: systems and satellite capabilities, they had everything they need in
Speaker 1: order to wage a potential war. They're not that far
Speaker 1: away from Ukraine. I mean, they're right there on the perimeter.
Speaker 1: It's not like deploying forces from you know, the Gulf
Speaker 1: of Mexico I'm sorry, Gulf of America over to Saudi
Speaker 1: Arabia and and and and we're you know, to launch
Speaker 1: missiles at the houthis that takes a long time. But
Speaker 1: if you're already in you know, Western Europe, it's not
Speaker 1: that far of a drive to get to Ukraine, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, am I missing something? No?
Speaker 3: And in fact, we you know, when I grew up
Speaker 3: in the Cold War, uh, in the in the army,
Speaker 3: in the US Army there, and we used to have
Speaker 3: what's called Reforger or Return Forces Germany, where we would
Speaker 3: do this big movement uh every year or two would
Speaker 3: send you know, huge numbers of forces and be tens
Speaker 3: or hundreds of thousands of troops would take part from
Speaker 3: all the different NATO countries moving around to show that
Speaker 3: we had the capacity to physically fight in the event
Speaker 3: that the Soviet Union ever invaded.
Speaker 2: Well, now then.
Speaker 3: You see that how far the whole, the whole NATO
Speaker 3: itself has deteriorated that it can't even muster a handful
Speaker 3: of thousands. I mean, originally they were looking for as
Speaker 3: far back as December two hundred thousand peacekeepers, and then
Speaker 3: they said, well, maybe one hundred thousand. Now then they're
Speaker 3: saying maybe thirty thousand. Yeah, and they're having a hard
Speaker 3: time with that. What kind of signal does that zend
Speaker 3: to your potential adversary on the Russian side, who, by
Speaker 3: the way, have expanded to one point five million active
Speaker 3: troops and growing.
Speaker 1: Well, that is in I mean, I suppose one could
Speaker 1: characterize it as an as an existential threat, but recognizing
Speaker 1: that you're still talking about some nuclear armed countries in
Speaker 1: spite of the fact they have very few people to
Speaker 1: wage a way, you're still looking at the potential of
Speaker 1: the holocaust like nuclear holocaust scenario, which is the only
Speaker 1: thing I suppose that prevents Russia from actually going in
Speaker 1: and invading Western Europe, which I don't really believe. And
Speaker 1: maybe you've got some thoughts on this that that's something
Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin wants to take on.
Speaker 3: No, he does not want to do that, but he
Speaker 3: is building up a force that could do that if
Speaker 3: he feels that he is threatened to the point to
Speaker 3: where the NATO nations are actually thinking about going beyond
Speaker 3: where they already have, which is supporting a war against Russia,
Speaker 3: and if they don't reach a peace agreement, they're saying, hey,
Speaker 3: at some point, if we can't assure our security on
Speaker 3: our western flank through negotiations to end this war, then
Speaker 3: we'll take whatever actions we need to to go first.
Speaker 3: There are many in the Kremlin that are pushing hard
Speaker 3: for that. I'll just tell you straight up. I see
Speaker 3: it in the Russian media. They have been very open.
Speaker 3: I'm talking Russian state media has been very open about
Speaker 3: saying that's what we should do. They're building a force
Speaker 3: that could potentially do that. Meanwhile, we're just talking on
Speaker 3: the other side. And Brian, all of this puts in
Speaker 3: great relief that when you look at what we talked
Speaker 3: about a lot, the balance of power between the two
Speaker 3: sides is just irrevocably on the Russian side. For the
Speaker 3: Russia Ukraine War, It's now evident. It also extends into
Speaker 3: the NATO Alliance, and instead of recognizing that and going,
Speaker 3: holy crap, let's get this war over with and see
Speaker 3: if we can fill the holes here, they're ignoring the reality,
Speaker 3: still trying to pretend it's back during the time I
Speaker 3: was serving and when Reforger, when the balance of power
Speaker 3: was evil equal, And instead they're continuing with this fiction
Speaker 3: that they're going to try and beat Russia through Ukraine.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense at all.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, looking forward, let's assume the worst case
Speaker 1: scenario that okay, the warmongers that surround Pewtin have their
Speaker 1: way and Russia goes ahead and tries to take over
Speaker 1: Western Europe. I don't care if they have two million troops,
Speaker 1: how many millions of people live in Western Europe. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't you can't hold the block, if you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. If you've got enough people, you know,
Speaker 1: willing to take pot shots and random Russian soldiers, you
Speaker 1: got this potential long term, you know, unsustainable girl of warfare.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about we were in Afghanistan for how
Speaker 1: many years, one single country, and we ended up pulling
Speaker 1: out the great American might, the great American military couldn't
Speaker 1: hold one country and I don't know the size of
Speaker 1: maybe Texas or something. I don't know what the geographical
Speaker 1: realities are. But when you really practically think about this,
Speaker 1: it's almost it seems like an insurmountable challenge.
Speaker 3: Well see, and that's that's if Rushia wanted to occupy
Speaker 3: all of Europe, which.
Speaker 2: They don't even even in the in the version.
Speaker 3: What they're talking right now, these warhawks in the in
Speaker 3: the Moscow side is that they just want to defeat
Speaker 3: the military capacity of NATO and then so that they
Speaker 3: can ensure that they're safe because there won't be a threat,
Speaker 3: and then they would return home. So this is more
Speaker 3: like an exponential expeditionary event, not a quest event.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I think that boiled down though.
Speaker 1: That's bluster on the part of the warmongers over in Russia,
Speaker 1: because as you and I have just talked about, the
Speaker 1: NATO alliance isn't really a threat. Well there's that, and
Speaker 1: maybe that's why Russia or Putin himself has pushed back
Speaker 1: against the hawks, because he said they don't really represent
Speaker 1: a threat, but they do want this war over, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're willing to do whatever it takes.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's where they could.
Speaker 3: And according to General Sersky this morning, I just saw
Speaker 3: it just before we came on an air. He said
Speaker 3: that the Russian offensive that they've been warning about began
Speaker 3: apparently yesterday the day before. It's apparently a slow creek,
Speaker 3: but it's an increase in the Zaparisia and in the
Speaker 3: Sumi area in the north.
Speaker 2: And we'll see where that goes.
Speaker 3: But Russia may be deciding to just solve this on
Speaker 3: the battlefield if they can't get a diplomacy.
Speaker 1: Well, and the more they take over, the better their
Speaker 1: position becomes in a negotiation, and maybe that may be
Speaker 1: the point of moving in. You know, if you guys
Speaker 1: aren't sitting down at the table and working on terms
Speaker 1: that are at least palatable to the Russians, because guess what,
Speaker 1: we're winning and we continue to win, and you're running
Speaker 1: out of soldiers and munitions. I'm sorry, you don't have
Speaker 1: any negotiation here, So let's get it over with. You
Speaker 1: give us the Russian occupied primarily Russian people regions, that's
Speaker 1: what you know we want. We'll let you have the
Speaker 1: rest of Ukraine because they don't want to send there.
Speaker 1: You don't want to send there. Let's get this thing
Speaker 1: over with, because that's the obvious conclusion if you're going
Speaker 1: to negotiate piece, that's what's gonna happen, right.
Speaker 3: Brian, Listen, I think I'm gonna see if I can't
Speaker 3: get a hold of President Trump this morning and puts
Speaker 3: you in charge of the negotiating game, because you got it,
Speaker 3: you have it figured out, and we just need to
Speaker 3: make sure that you bring Europe alongside your obvious logic
Speaker 3: and rational thought there, because that's the only way this
Speaker 3: is gonna get to an end, because no war is
Speaker 3: gonna end until one side at least recognizes finally that
Speaker 3: they can no longer continue to put forth effective resistance
Speaker 3: and to the point of where they go, all right,
Speaker 3: we either keep fighting in die or we make a deal.
Speaker 3: And apparently the West, certainly it's not, and I guess
Speaker 3: Ukraine hasn't gotten to that point either. So we have
Speaker 3: our new Russian offensive and we'll see where that goes.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, maybe they can play this conversation to the
Speaker 1: collective that's going to be meeting today. All I'm saying is,
Speaker 1: you know, listen, we lost Vietnam. We pulled out and
Speaker 1: we lost, but you know what now they're a trading
Speaker 1: partner with us, so over the long term and ended
Speaker 1: up working out.
Speaker 2: We licked our wounds. We looked bad, and you know
Speaker 2: you move on right. It's time to do this.
Speaker 1: It's time to quit killing. End the story. Daniel Davis
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Speaker 1: always love the conversation, Danie'll look forward to too. And
Speaker 1: actually not next Tuesday. I'm off all week. Next week
Speaker 1: I'm taking a mental health week. Got to have one
Speaker 1: every once in a while, So I'm taking the week off.
Speaker 1: But fast forward a week from tuesday, we'll hit the
Speaker 1: ground running again.
Speaker 2: We'll look forward to it. Now.
Speaker 3: Let you know what President Trump says about you being
Speaker 3: the negotiating team.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Take care of yourself, my brother, we'll
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