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<v Speaker 1>Seven thirty here fifty five CARRICD Talk Station, a very

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<v Speaker 1>happy Friday, and so please do a special edition with

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<v Speaker 1>retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis since we missed out on

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity due to a technical glitch. You know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>without Joe, the show don't go, even though Shaw mac

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<v Speaker 1>Man is doing a wonderful job covering for Joe. Better

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<v Speaker 1>late than never. Welcome back Daniel Davis at the fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five KRCY Morning Show. It's always a pleasure talking with you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling really like almost withdrawal symptoms from heaven not

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you on Tuesday, so I'm glad we made

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<v Speaker 1>it up. It's always an enjoyable and engaging discussion and

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<v Speaker 1>very informative. And I didn't get a topic from you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I kind of assumed it would be a continuation

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<v Speaker 1>of our ongoing discussion over the situation between Russia and Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you want to go in a different direction,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. But I had to ask you about this

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<v Speaker 1>because my friends over Breitbart were reporting the British Defense

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<v Speaker 1>Minister was meeting yesterday. They got around thirty countries to

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<v Speaker 1>move forward with plans on deploying troops to defend Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>or otherwise, you know, after a peace deal, is to

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<v Speaker 1>gociated to secure the perimeter or something. They said two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred military planners from thirty countries were working to develop

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<v Speaker 1>plans for deepening European involvement in Ukraine. But here is

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<v Speaker 1>the and it's not funny because we're talking about war

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<v Speaker 1>and we're talking about people dying. But as Ripe art

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<v Speaker 1>right real quick, as breipbart Wright's building a force big

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<v Speaker 1>enough to act as a credible deterrent is proving a

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<v Speaker 1>considerable effort for nations that strength their militaries after the

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<v Speaker 1>Cold War, I mean, no kidding, I mean without us,

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<v Speaker 1>they can't even defend themselves. How are they going to

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<v Speaker 1>take on this large responsibility when they don't have any

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<v Speaker 1>armies of any size any longer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is truly bizarre.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say their meeting today, by the way, that was

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<v Speaker 3>the Coalition of the Willing Military arm meeting there yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking today.

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<v Speaker 3>The defense ministers are meeting in Germany to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>nwth AID, which apparently just a couple of hours ago

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<v Speaker 3>was released like twenty twenty one billion dollars in additional

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<v Speaker 3>something like that. But I mean, it's puzzling because the

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<v Speaker 3>Russians are saying, hey, we're working with Trump to try

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<v Speaker 3>to find a way to end this war, but we

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<v Speaker 3>keep telling you that no NATO countries will be allowed

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<v Speaker 3>any kind of a peacekeeping force at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a complete and total non starter.

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<v Speaker 3>So then the question has to be if we're telling

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<v Speaker 3>you that's not even on the table for the Russian side,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can't have them in there unless there's an

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<v Speaker 3>agreement on both sides, then why are you going down

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<v Speaker 3>a path that is not going to be acceptable to anyone?

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<v Speaker 2>It is bizarre to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And then, as you said, it's also alarming because they

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<v Speaker 3>can't even come up with enough people even to put

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<v Speaker 3>on paper that could go up in there. And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know that they realize it, but that is signaling

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<v Speaker 3>significant weakness to the Russian side to get more bold

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<v Speaker 3>because they see that their paper military on the whole

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<v Speaker 3>Western side, and that's something that should trouble all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yes, and I'm certain Russian intelligence is painfully well

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<v Speaker 1>obviously aware of the limitations of the European Union's military forces.

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<v Speaker 1>It you're I mean, you understand military warfare and deployment

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<v Speaker 1>of troops. This isn't like if they had a sizable

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<v Speaker 1>military force and sufficient assets and missile systems and weapons

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<v Speaker 1>systems and satellite capabilities, they had everything they need in

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<v Speaker 1>order to wage a potential war. They're not that far

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<v Speaker 1>away from Ukraine. I mean, they're right there on the perimeter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like deploying forces from you know, the Gulf

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<v Speaker 1>of Mexico I'm sorry, Gulf of America over to Saudi

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<v Speaker 1>Arabia and and and and we're you know, to launch

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<v Speaker 1>missiles at the houthis that takes a long time. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you're already in you know, Western Europe, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that far of a drive to get to Ukraine, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, am I missing something? No?

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<v Speaker 3>And in fact, we you know, when I grew up

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<v Speaker 3>in the Cold War, uh, in the in the army,

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<v Speaker 3>in the US Army there, and we used to have

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<v Speaker 3>what's called Reforger or Return Forces Germany, where we would

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<v Speaker 3>do this big movement uh every year or two would

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<v Speaker 3>send you know, huge numbers of forces and be tens

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<v Speaker 3>or hundreds of thousands of troops would take part from

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<v Speaker 3>all the different NATO countries moving around to show that

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<v Speaker 3>we had the capacity to physically fight in the event

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<v Speaker 3>that the Soviet Union ever invaded.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now then.

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<v Speaker 3>You see that how far the whole, the whole NATO

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<v Speaker 3>itself has deteriorated that it can't even muster a handful

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<v Speaker 3>of thousands. I mean, originally they were looking for as

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<v Speaker 3>far back as December two hundred thousand peacekeepers, and then

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<v Speaker 3>they said, well, maybe one hundred thousand. Now then they're

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<v Speaker 3>saying maybe thirty thousand. Yeah, and they're having a hard

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<v Speaker 3>time with that. What kind of signal does that zend

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<v Speaker 3>to your potential adversary on the Russian side, who, by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, have expanded to one point five million active

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that is in I mean, I suppose one could

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<v Speaker 1>characterize it as an as an existential threat, but recognizing

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<v Speaker 1>that you're still talking about some nuclear armed countries in

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<v Speaker 1>spite of the fact they have very few people to

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<v Speaker 1>wage a way, you're still looking at the potential of

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<v Speaker 1>the holocaust like nuclear holocaust scenario, which is the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing I suppose that prevents Russia from actually going in

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<v Speaker 1>and invading Western Europe, which I don't really believe. And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you've got some thoughts on this that that's something

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<v Speaker 1>Vladimir Putin wants to take on.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he does not want to do that, but he

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<v Speaker 3>is building up a force that could do that if

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<v Speaker 3>he feels that he is threatened to the point to

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<v Speaker 3>where the NATO nations are actually thinking about going beyond

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<v Speaker 3>where they already have, which is supporting a war against Russia,

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<v Speaker 3>and if they don't reach a peace agreement, they're saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>at some point, if we can't assure our security on

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<v Speaker 3>our western flank through negotiations to end this war, then

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<v Speaker 3>we'll take whatever actions we need to to go first.

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<v Speaker 3>There are many in the Kremlin that are pushing hard

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<v Speaker 3>for that. I'll just tell you straight up. I see

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<v Speaker 3>it in the Russian media. They have been very open.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking Russian state media has been very open about

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<v Speaker 3>saying that's what we should do. They're building a force

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<v Speaker 3>that could potentially do that. Meanwhile, we're just talking on

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<v Speaker 3>the other side. And Brian, all of this puts in

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<v Speaker 3>great relief that when you look at what we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about a lot, the balance of power between the two

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<v Speaker 3>sides is just irrevocably on the Russian side. For the

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<v Speaker 3>Russia Ukraine War, It's now evident. It also extends into

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<v Speaker 3>the NATO Alliance, and instead of recognizing that and going,

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<v Speaker 3>holy crap, let's get this war over with and see

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<v Speaker 3>if we can fill the holes here, they're ignoring the reality,

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<v Speaker 3>still trying to pretend it's back during the time I

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<v Speaker 3>was serving and when Reforger, when the balance of power

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<v Speaker 3>was evil equal, And instead they're continuing with this fiction

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<v Speaker 3>that they're going to try and beat Russia through Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make any sense at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, looking forward, let's assume the worst case

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<v Speaker 1>scenario that okay, the warmongers that surround Pewtin have their

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<v Speaker 1>Western Europe. I don't care if they have two million troops,

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<v Speaker 1>how many millions of people live in Western Europe. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't you can't hold the block, if you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. If you've got enough people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>willing to take pot shots and random Russian soldiers, you

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<v Speaker 1>got this potential long term, you know, unsustainable girl of warfare.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, think about we were in Afghanistan for how

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<v Speaker 1>many years, one single country, and we ended up pulling

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<v Speaker 1>out the great American might, the great American military couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>hold one country and I don't know the size of

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Texas or something. I don't know what the geographical

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<v Speaker 1>realities are. But when you really practically think about this,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost it seems like an insurmountable challenge.

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<v Speaker 3>Well see, and that's that's if Rushia wanted to occupy

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<v Speaker 3>all of Europe, which.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't even even in the in the version.

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<v Speaker 3>What they're talking right now, these warhawks in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the Moscow side is that they just want to defeat

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<v Speaker 3>the military capacity of NATO and then so that they

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<v Speaker 3>can ensure that they're safe because there won't be a threat,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they would return home. So this is more

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<v Speaker 3>like an exponential expeditionary event, not a quest event.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I think that boiled down though.

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<v Speaker 1>That's bluster on the part of the warmongers over in Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>because as you and I have just talked about, the

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<v Speaker 1>NATO alliance isn't really a threat. Well there's that, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's why Russia or Putin himself has pushed back

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<v Speaker 1>against the hawks, because he said they don't really represent

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<v Speaker 1>a threat, but they do want this war over, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're willing to do whatever it takes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's where they could.

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<v Speaker 3>And according to General Sersky this morning, I just saw

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<v Speaker 3>it just before we came on an air. He said

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<v Speaker 3>that the Russian offensive that they've been warning about began

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<v Speaker 3>apparently yesterday the day before. It's apparently a slow creek,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's an increase in the Zaparisia and in the

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<v Speaker 3>Sumi area in the north.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll see where that goes.

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<v Speaker 3>But Russia may be deciding to just solve this on

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<v Speaker 3>the battlefield if they can't get a diplomacy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and the more they take over, the better their

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<v Speaker 1>position becomes in a negotiation, and maybe that may be

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<v Speaker 1>the point of moving in. You know, if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>aren't sitting down at the table and working on terms

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<v Speaker 1>that are at least palatable to the Russians, because guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>we're winning and we continue to win, and you're running

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<v Speaker 1>out of soldiers and munitions. I'm sorry, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any negotiation here, So let's get it over with. You

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<v Speaker 1>give us the Russian occupied primarily Russian people regions, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you know we want. We'll let you have the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of Ukraine because they don't want to send there.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to send there. Let's get this thing

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<v Speaker 1>over with, because that's the obvious conclusion if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to negotiate piece, that's what's gonna happen, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian, Listen, I think I'm gonna see if I can't

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<v Speaker 3>get a hold of President Trump this morning and puts

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<v Speaker 3>you in charge of the negotiating game, because you got it,

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<v Speaker 3>you have it figured out, and we just need to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that you bring Europe alongside your obvious logic

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<v Speaker 3>and rational thought there, because that's the only way this

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<v Speaker 3>is gonna get to an end, because no war is

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<v Speaker 3>gonna end until one side at least recognizes finally that

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<v Speaker 3>they can no longer continue to put forth effective resistance

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<v Speaker 3>and to the point of where they go, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>we either keep fighting in die or we make a deal.

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<v Speaker 3>And apparently the West, certainly it's not, and I guess

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<v Speaker 3>Ukraine hasn't gotten to that point either. So we have

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<v Speaker 3>our new Russian offensive and we'll see where that goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, maybe they can play this conversation to the

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<v Speaker 1>collective that's going to be meeting today. All I'm saying is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, listen, we lost Vietnam. We pulled out and

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<v Speaker 1>we lost, but you know what now they're a trading

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<v Speaker 2>We licked our wounds. We looked bad, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>you move on right. It's time to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time to quit killing. End the story. Daniel Davis

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<v Speaker 1>deep Die find him online. Listen to this podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>always love the conversation, Danie'll look forward to too. And

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<v Speaker 1>actually not next Tuesday. I'm off all week. Next week

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking a mental health week. Got to have one

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<v Speaker 1>every once in a while, So I'm taking the week off.

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<v Speaker 1>But fast forward a week from tuesday, we'll hit the

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<v Speaker 1>ground running again.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll look forward to it. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Let you know what President Trump says about you being

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<v Speaker 3>the negotiating team.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Take care of yourself, my brother, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk soon. Already one if it's five cars Detalk Station,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter should