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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>and five seven seven three nine. Thank you to Sheriff

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Reims for anchoring the show the first three days

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<v Speaker 1>of the week. I was out of state doing trial

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<v Speaker 1>prep and so happy to be back with you today

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<v Speaker 1>and for the weekend. And then I start a trial

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday, so we'll have another great cast of all

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<v Speaker 1>stars in next week. Three all three someone three eight

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<v Speaker 1>two five five the number. Then this trial run, this

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<v Speaker 1>will have been, if I'm counting right, my fourth jury

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<v Speaker 1>trial in eight weeks, and then I'll I'll be off

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry trials for about a month and a half and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll have one that'll go about a month in September.

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<v Speaker 1>So really looking forward to this time with you now.

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<v Speaker 1>And the timing is pretty perfect, right. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal today with the big beautiful bill passing and

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<v Speaker 1>on so many different levels. But one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I want to kick around with you today is what

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<v Speaker 1>do you like what don't you like in the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful Bill? If there's anything you don't like, but really

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<v Speaker 1>anxious to get your take on it. Now, Listen. When

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<v Speaker 1>I consider myself an expert in something, I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can decide whether I am or not.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I'm not, I tell you that too, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we can all agree on that. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>an expert on the Big Beautiful Bill. I'm just not.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been paying attention to a lot of different stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>including Supreme Court, big Supreme Court rulings, et cetera. As

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<v Speaker 1>I've been balancing trial prep and this show. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have just not done a deep dive on the bills,

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<v Speaker 1>so but anxious to have the conversation. I'm reading probably

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<v Speaker 1>the same stuff you're reading, and trying to learn as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I can about it. I have a general impression,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can tell me whether you share it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll have some hot sound from plenty of other

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<v Speaker 1>things going on in the world locally and nationally. I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to throw a few kind of over our

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<v Speaker 1>questions out there for you. We'll kick around during the

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<v Speaker 1>show whenever you feel like it. And one of those is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, America. Obviously, we're going to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>talking a lot about America the fourth tomorrow, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to throw this question out there other than freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think we'd all answer this question freedom initially.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the best thing about America other than freedom? And obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of criticism out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about that criticism, etc. We live in a

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<v Speaker 1>country right now. What a weird place to be right

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<v Speaker 1>where you have one of the two major political parties

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<v Speaker 1>and that the people who control the party just really

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<v Speaker 1>it in awful ways. That's a weird place to be, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably probably a first in American history. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>history since the Civil War where you have one major

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<v Speaker 1>just don't like this country very much. That's a weird deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes the stakes real high, right, which then brings us

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<v Speaker 1>to the importance of the big, beautiful bill beyond what's

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<v Speaker 1>in it, And I'll get to that in a second,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, what do you most like about America other

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<v Speaker 1>than freedom? Would love your take on that. Who's the

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<v Speaker 1>I was tempted to exclude George Washington from this because

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<v Speaker 1>it up more broadly. Who's the one person we most

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine that the current president, President Trump, will get

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<v Speaker 1>really impressive and really encouraging as to where things can

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<v Speaker 1>seven three nine. Thank you to our first Texter, Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>I happy thirty first anniversary. I hope you and Amy

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<v Speaker 1>have something fun planned that from Alexa. Thank you Alexa,

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<v Speaker 1>very thoughtful. We have more than one fun thing planned.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's amazing, isn't it. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how old you are whatever, but it's amazing how time works.

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<v Speaker 1>you can relate to things in your life, and then

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<v Speaker 1>this concept of time. Phenomena of time is really amazing

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<v Speaker 1>because these thirty one years and if you're married, I

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<v Speaker 1>but holy cow, I mean after year one, it's literally flown.

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<v Speaker 1>and scary at the same time, right, I mean scary

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of I'm sitting here right now feeling really young,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, but thirty one years goes pretty fast,

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<v Speaker 1>the show. She is so mediashye, which is remarkable because

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<v Speaker 1>she was just such a stellar, world class news anchor,

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<v Speaker 1>but loves her privacy and I do not I do

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<v Speaker 1>not impose on that. We did have this opportunity. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to remember whichever was whatever the biggest satellite radio

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<v Speaker 1>doing a show together, and I have no doubt that

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a hit show, and not because of me,

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<v Speaker 1>But that thing never got off the ground. That's zero

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<v Speaker 1>interest in that whatsoever. But what an amazing thirty one years.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so grateful for that. I wonder what I'll look

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<v Speaker 1>it up in the break. How long the average marriage lasts?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you get a lot of different variables, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been so blessed with health. He get a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of great couples deeply in love, and then somebody gets ill.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously you have some marriages that don't quite make it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I wonder how long the average marriage lasts? Really,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Zack.

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<v Speaker 3>Zach is on top of it, Zach, I didn't think

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<v Speaker 3>that over the are twenty one years in America?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Oh you didn't say that. So people thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to myself and I had imagine oury friend, Zach. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to tell you, Zach would be a great

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<v Speaker 1>real friend. Right, Tell people a little about yourself. Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan is off a what bars he in? He's off,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a sandbar. He is in Michigan. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got a couple there, but Zack, Okay, yeah, tell

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<v Speaker 1>people about yourself. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty five here from Colorado born and race fellow uh

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<v Speaker 3>Colorado at Boulder grat No buffs and uh yeah, enjoying

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<v Speaker 3>the radio biz, mainly on the sports side, but always

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<v Speaker 3>fun to hop.

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<v Speaker 1>Over here too. Yeah, what's your degree in journalism?

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<v Speaker 1>Minor sports convenience. That's convenient. Yeah, well, great to have

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<v Speaker 1>you here. Yeah, Zach, Zach is a wonderful cat. It

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<v Speaker 1>started out sounding there like one of those dating shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you single? Are you married? What's your star?

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<v Speaker 3>I've been in a relationship for eight years now eight Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>getting doing the mask, being ready to follow question here?

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<v Speaker 1>Since Wow, does she know? I guess she does now.

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully she's not listening right now. Hopefully she's working.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good way to put it, A good

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<v Speaker 1>So you meet in high school.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't go to the same high school. We had

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, how do those two meet?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know. Actually, I think it goes back

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, and then yeah, you know, we've been together

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<v Speaker 4>eight years, son.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great way to start. No, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you've got to compete for it just

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't be telling the story if I didn't win.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know that is true. I feel the same way. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>Holy cow, hotly cow. The battles. I had to fight

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<v Speaker 1>competition for my bride as well. So congratulations, my friend

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<v Speaker 1>We'll come back if you've got to take on the

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<v Speaker 1>big beautiful bill. And again, without knowing, I'd like to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know all the details. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I'm excited about it and why I think

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump, broadly speaking here is right to be doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the Dan Capitla Show.

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<v Speaker 5>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad you're here.

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<v Speaker 6>Perhaps year after year after year, as a result of

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<v Speaker 6>the Republican assault on the healthcare.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the American people.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sad.

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<v Speaker 6>I never thought I'd be on the House floor saying

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<v Speaker 6>that this is a crime scene.

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<v Speaker 4>At House.

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<v Speaker 5>Democrats want no part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Jeffrey spoke for over eight hours. I mean he had,

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<v Speaker 1>of things going on there right, individual pieces of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Your take on that, but also on the significance, which

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<v Speaker 1>not easy when your margins are that small, right, it

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington. I don't blame you, but but who's the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest president? So we'll start with all that I do

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<v Speaker 1>good that happened in sports. Are you kidding me? That's

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<v Speaker 1>I've used the word before. But the point being, what

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<v Speaker 1>bigger and more important? See? I think it does, because

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<v Speaker 1>clearly they just don't care about kids. I mean, i'm

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<v Speaker 1>one one quick thing on the big beautiful bill, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt, and President Trump has spoken to it.

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of understanding his approach. But President Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully thirty two. So but clearly he is committed

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<v Speaker 1>to growth as the answer. Now, everybody likes growth, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're growing or you're dying. But I'm just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the deficit, spending, et cetera. And you know, obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>But the Democratic Party has become a party that's a

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<v Speaker 1>and depending on government. Trump's committed to this growth, and

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<v Speaker 7>Every single time we expected to run out of steam,

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<v Speaker 7>the expectation of about one hundred and eighteen thousand, well

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<v Speaker 7>indeed beating expectations. We were also expecting a slowdown we

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<v Speaker 1>This is basically in line with May, which was revised higher.

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<v Speaker 7>The unemployment rate was expected to go up, it didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>was on election Day that that President Trump really does

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<v Speaker 1>and cost President Trump that consecutive term. But he really

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<v Speaker 1>does get it, and any human endeavor, nobody's going to

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<v Speaker 1>by our kids I mean our individual children, but the

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<v Speaker 1>community as a whole. What do we value? What are

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<v Speaker 1>those character traits as virtues that we value? And what

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<v Speaker 1>does old Meths say? Not good things? Right? You don't

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<v Speaker 1>I end up looking like that. But you get a

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<v Speaker 1>garden of heroes. You get a garden of heroes where okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the kids now take their field trips and they wander

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<v Speaker 1>through and they see these life size that's the premise,

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<v Speaker 1>life size statues of these great figures in American history.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course you'll have the interactive stuff. You

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<v Speaker 1>can read about them, probably have some holograms so you

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<v Speaker 1>can play pick a ball with them or something if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to. But but just this whole idea of hey, kids,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what we value and why, and learn something

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<v Speaker 1>about them here and then you know how it is.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all so visual now, right, and if it's real

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<v Speaker 1>and it's tangible and it's life size. Particularly if it's

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<v Speaker 1>done well, you know, then yeah, it has a real impact.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the idea. So anyway, there's forty million in

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<v Speaker 1>the bill for that. That won't be enough for the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing, but it'll be enough to get it started.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, two hundred and fifty of those? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it costs? Does anybody know? I have no clue?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think it costs for a really good

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<v Speaker 1>life size, say, bronze. And I don't think they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to requy. I don't think these statues are all going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to be, you know, a bronze. But what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that costs a full life size bronze statue?

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're going to put a statue up anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>in this state of anybody, who would it be and

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<v Speaker 1>where would you put it? It's an interesting thought. Three

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<v Speaker 1>or three someone three eight two five five text d

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<v Speaker 1>an five seven seventh three not hopefully it's interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody besides me. But that's a real interesting thought. If

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<v Speaker 1>I had one statue that I could put up anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>who would it be of and where would I put it?

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<v Speaker 1>I might just take the rest of the show off

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<v Speaker 1>and think about that. I'm really intrigued about that. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let me get us some of our texters, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a beautiful weekend across the state

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend, no surprise in the fourth right. Memorial Days,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, can just turn into winter some years

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<v Speaker 1>and other years be perfect. Same for Labor Days. But

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<v Speaker 1>fourth of July, I think is almost always great, and

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<v Speaker 1>it will be across the state.

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<v Speaker 8>Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously Trump looks at the national debt like his own companies. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>the US can't declare bankruptcy or shouldn't. Bitter beer face text,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you'd call the show. I'd like to know

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<v Speaker 1>what's made you so sad? I mean, my goodness, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to ask the texture the Siamos throwback. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been decades on air now and I just love callers

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<v Speaker 1>and text will do and I understand you can do

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<v Speaker 1>it rapid fire, move through it quickly. It leads you

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of different directions. That's cool. But with

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<v Speaker 1>the texts you can have a follow up, you can

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<v Speaker 1>get to understand why somebody believes the way they do,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can talk it through. But my goodness, hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>this texture seen at this point incontrovertible proof that the

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the finances of this nation and the economic

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<v Speaker 1>healths of this nation. Trump is really good. Carly in

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful Highlands Rancher on the Dan Kaplis Show, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 8>Hi Dane and happy Forest if you too.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you well, how about happy third It's my thirty

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<v Speaker 1>first wedding anniversary, and maybe condolences for my wife, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very happy.

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<v Speaker 9>I just want to say, along with the border money

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<v Speaker 9>all of this other stuff, I've come to realize there's

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<v Speaker 9>always going to be stuff in there you don't want. However,

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<v Speaker 9>and I just tuned in, so I'm sorry if you've

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<v Speaker 9>already talked about this. I am so thrilled that Planned

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<v Speaker 9>Parenthood Oh she funded? Yes, yes, yes, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 9>worth it for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my lord, I mean.

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<v Speaker 8>Can you believe finally Yeah, No, I'm with you on that.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I've been trying to do for I've been

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for that. I've been trying to find the

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<v Speaker 1>specifics before deep diving that. But yeah, those are the

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<v Speaker 1>headlines Planned Parenthood defunded as part of this. I just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's kind of my lawyer training. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see the actual document to see exactly what that means,

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<v Speaker 1>because that would be such an important thing. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure I've got all those particulars down.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's what the headlines are saying. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to Robert in Denver. You're on the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, I was just wanting to make a comment about

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<v Speaker 8>the big beautiful tax film. Yes, sir, I just want

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<v Speaker 8>to say that they're saying the debt is going to

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<v Speaker 8>go up in the next four or five years three

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<v Speaker 8>point five trillion dollars. Okay, Yeah, so I'm glad it past.

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<v Speaker 8>I think they did a lot of good things. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>a Republican. But still, if you remember when Reagan ran

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<v Speaker 8>for office in nineteen eighty, there were thirteen million years, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>and today there are over nine hundred Now in nineteen eighty,

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<v Speaker 8>if you go to Official Data dot com, which is

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<v Speaker 8>a government watchdog, it'll tell you that if you put

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<v Speaker 8>in the calculator, have a billion dollars in nineteen eighty,

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<v Speaker 8>but today the only worth are not only only three

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<v Speaker 8>hundred and eighty million dollars. So when you print all

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<v Speaker 8>this Fiat money, just like we did during COVID, it's

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<v Speaker 8>going to cause inflation. Your member during COVID, we all

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<v Speaker 8>got stimulus checks.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert may ask you his favor and I'm so sorry

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<v Speaker 1>interrupt for just up against a hard break. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you bottom line all this and then I'll be happy

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<v Speaker 1>to tackle it on the other side.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I just think that if you look at the figures,

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<v Speaker 8>what we're doing is trying to excite ourselves out of

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<v Speaker 8>the debt, because as we as the dollar becomes wortheless,

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<v Speaker 8>the debt becomes worth less.

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<v Speaker 1>And Robert, sorry, I have to break there, but thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for bringing it to that bottom line. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what's going on here, but I appreciate your

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<v Speaker 1>perspective on it. And that point about increasing the deficit

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<v Speaker 1>by three trillion. This I think you can be real

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<v Speaker 1>confident of. If President Trump, for any of the Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>voting for this bill really believed it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>increase the deficit by three trillion, they would not be

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<v Speaker 1>supporting it. The concept is this will fuel growth, increase

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<v Speaker 1>government revenues, and reduce the deficit.

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<v Speaker 5>You're on the Dan Caplash and now back to the

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<v Speaker 5>Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>You may even get time I heard up winning and

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<v Speaker 6>you'll say, please, please, it's too much winning.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't take.

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<v Speaker 6>It anymore, mister President, it's too much. And I'll say, no,

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<v Speaker 6>it isn't. We have to keep winning. We have to

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<v Speaker 6>win more. We're gonna win more.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Trump and its best. I mean, we are really

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<v Speaker 1>going to miss this guy when he's gone right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously he's not perfect, none of us are. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's great stuff. And it's also true, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about the winning this big, beautiful bill, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't claim to know everything that's in it, but

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness, just the accomplishment to get it passed, that

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<v Speaker 1>broad a bill with those narrow margins in the House

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<v Speaker 1>and Senate, that's a monumental accomplishment pun intended because part

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<v Speaker 1>of it that has me intrigued, and it's part of

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<v Speaker 1>what I didn't know was in there, but I love

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<v Speaker 1>it is this garden of heroes. This this garden of

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<v Speaker 1>American Heroes going to be two hundred and fifty life

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<v Speaker 1>sized statues of American hero and they're still working on

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<v Speaker 1>a site. But there was forty million in this bill

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<v Speaker 1>to kick it off, and obviously the price is going

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<v Speaker 1>to go up from there? But who would you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see? Let's say we had a Colorado Garden of heroes.

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<v Speaker 1>Who would you want to see in there? That's going

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<v Speaker 1>to Mark in Denver on this gorgeous afternoon. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say Friday afternoon because it feels that way, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a thursday. How you doing, Mark?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do well, Dan? Thank you? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you thinking?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? You were asking what it costs to build a

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<v Speaker 2>sculpture that I don't negotiate anywhere near as well as

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<v Speaker 2>our president. But having recently commissioned a life of life

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<v Speaker 2>size of Kit Carson, about fifty grand.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty grand and that's bronze high quality, that is bronze. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and now Kit Carson? How tall was he? How much

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<v Speaker 1>did he waste? So what does life size mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? You know? Life size in this case is about

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<v Speaker 2>five seven, five eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, let me ask the question everybody is asking

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<v Speaker 1>in their car right now. Why did you commission a

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<v Speaker 1>life size statue of Kit Carson?

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<v Speaker 2>I have a business in San Diego and recently building

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<v Speaker 2>new building for it, and San Diego County requires either

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<v Speaker 2>a half a point of the building permit fee to

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<v Speaker 2>go into a general Fund for art of their choosing,

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<v Speaker 2>or a full point if we do art of our choosing.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't like the idea of Bureaucraft's telling you what

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<v Speaker 2>sort of art i'd papers, so I chose to go

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<v Speaker 2>for the one percent option.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so cool man, Thank you and thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for that call. That is awesome. Three or three? He said, one, three, eight, two, five,

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<v Speaker 1>five the number? Can you imagine if right now we

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<v Speaker 1>had that, you know, Garden of Heroes in Colorado, say

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<v Speaker 1>it was down around the capitol somewhere, and given what

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<v Speaker 1>the left has allowed to be done to downtown, can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine what would then happen to the statues? But

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<v Speaker 1>can you imagine who the left would put in there?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. But if we could

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<v Speaker 1>do it right, who would you want to see in

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<v Speaker 1>a Garden of Heroes for Colorado? Sence, it's now going

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<v Speaker 1>to be reality for America, which I think is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>And where do you think the American Garden of Heroes

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<v Speaker 1>should be? Now? At this point? You know, Mount Rushmore,

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<v Speaker 1>the Mountain Rushmore District is making a pitch for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm certain it's gonna end up in DC though, right

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got no problem with that because all the

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<v Speaker 1>school kids who go on tours there, and they go

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<v Speaker 1>from all over America. I think it'd be so critical

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<v Speaker 1>that they get to walk through a garden like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it would have real impact. Three or

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<v Speaker 1>three someone three eight two, five five text D A

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<v Speaker 1>N five seven seven through nine D and happy anniversary

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<v Speaker 1>to you and Amy. We're in our fifty sixth year. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Now please stay happy Independence Day, not happy fourth of July.

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<v Speaker 1>After all, we don't say happy December twenty fifth or

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<v Speaker 1>happy February fourteenth. What an interesting question that is. But

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<v Speaker 1>the common the common, I mean Christmas. That's not a

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<v Speaker 1>good comparison, right, Maybe it is because obviously Christmas is

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<v Speaker 1>about Christ's birth of Christ. February fourteenth Valentine's Day. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go back to, wasn't I thought Ben Franklin

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<v Speaker 1>himself referred to the fourth of July. Yes, to celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>our independence. But I don't think there's anything disrespectful or

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<v Speaker 1>vague about happy fourth of July. But I get the point.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that, Texter. I get the point. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what you're The more I think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right because and it's not the common usage. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're right because obviously we only have this freedom because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people died for it. And they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>die for a date on the calendar. They died for independence.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you've got a winning argument there. Dana's

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<v Speaker 1>statue of John Denver where the horse Blucifer is a

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<v Speaker 1>dia interesting suggestion. John Denver would he be in a

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado Garden of Heroes like we're about to get an

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<v Speaker 1>American Garden of Heroes in DC. I don't know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big John Denver fan. One of the great

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<v Speaker 1>nights of my life was John Denver at Red Rocks,

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<v Speaker 1>and still play his stuff all the time. Maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I ended up in Colorado. I'll tell that story sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I don't think so. I don't think John

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<v Speaker 1>Denver would go into a Colorado Garden of Heroes now

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<v Speaker 1>if you're doing a music thing or whatever, certainly, and

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<v Speaker 1>nothing negative about John Denver in my mind, But no,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying everybody in the Garden of Heroes

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<v Speaker 1>has to be somebody who risked their life or gave

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<v Speaker 1>their life for our state. But what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>three or three someone three eight two five five the

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<v Speaker 1>number who would be your first choice for that garden. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need a garden of heroes. We have Fort Logan,

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<v Speaker 1>a fantastic place to think all the heroes that have

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<v Speaker 1>defended this Countryman, I'll tell you right about Fort Logan,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I know Amy was there for a funeral.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an amazing man a week ago. I've been there

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<v Speaker 1>for a few It is a powerful experience. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's a substance for the Garden of heroes.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you want the life size statues. You want the

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<v Speaker 1>kids to hear all about them and the rest of us.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the Dan Gaplo Show.
