Speaker 1: And nine.
Speaker 2: Ignition six five four three two one zero. All engine running.
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Speaker 4: This is Kelson and this is Shane. What's going on panel?
Speaker 4: Nice to see everybody. So Kelson, what do you want
Speaker 4: to talk about? First man?
Speaker 3: Well, you know what. Shades actually brought this up on
Speaker 3: his Vibe Check podcast. I wanted to talk about the
Speaker 3: owen Hart Cup. On Dynamite on Wednesday, they're revealing the
Speaker 3: owen Hart Cup brackets. Now there's eight wrestlers in each division,
Speaker 3: meaning the women's division and the men's division. Let's talk
Speaker 3: about the men's division. Because of the eight wrestlers, I
Speaker 3: believe only three have been announced and we got to
Speaker 3: fill out this bracket. I kind of like to do
Speaker 3: a little bit of fantasy booking here. Right now, we
Speaker 3: only have Will Ospray, Jay White and Hangman In and Paige.
Speaker 3: We've got five empty slots, and as Shade said, they're
Speaker 3: kind of I don't know, it's hard to fill it
Speaker 3: out because you've got title holders. We've already expressed I
Speaker 3: don't know how you guys feel about it this year,
Speaker 3: but last year were we don't like title holders being
Speaker 3: in the owen Hart so that eliminates like Claudio Castignoli,
Speaker 3: Pack Wheeler, you'd uh, Daniel Garcia whatever. So and then
Speaker 3: of course swear Strickland already has a shot, so he
Speaker 3: doesn't need to be in this really, I mean, I
Speaker 3: guess he could. But who do you think? What do
Speaker 3: we think? Who would you like to see Bill out
Speaker 3: the owen Hart Cup bracket for the men?
Speaker 4: Well, Tony Kahan in the past few years for these
Speaker 4: types of tournaments has kind of followed a pretty generic structure,
Speaker 4: like we're gonna need to imagine two guys that are
Speaker 4: gonna lose, Like that's the easiest place to start. I'll
Speaker 4: rip the band Aid off. I love him to death.
Speaker 4: Mark Briscoe, well, I can see him in again, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe getting to win or two. Yeah, and then Brody
Speaker 4: King I think Brodie is amazing. Yeah, either you know.
Speaker 3: What, as soon as you said Mark Versca, I knew
Speaker 3: you were gonna say Brodie King. And it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is unfortunate because we'll get to injuries later.
Speaker 4: But his partner's injured and now he's kind of out
Speaker 4: there by himself doing a lot of additional work. But
Speaker 4: I really can't think of anyone else. I mean, I'd
Speaker 4: like to see Takeshta get involved with the Owenhart Tournament.
Speaker 4: That would be fantastic. You know, maybe we could see
Speaker 4: like Kyle Fletcher get involved, you know, just right, maybe Kenny, well, Kenny,
Speaker 4: they're going for Kenny so or are they're going for
Speaker 4: Kenny or they're going for Max or Swerve. That's a
Speaker 4: world championship, world world Yeah, world championship shot at all
Speaker 4: in is on the line.
Speaker 3: Okay, anybody else? Who? Who?
Speaker 1: What else?
Speaker 3: Let's you know, let me fall over my tongue like
Speaker 3: Mercedes mommey on a Wednesday night and uh once she
Speaker 3: first started anymore, But uh, who else?
Speaker 5: I'm ahead, go ahead, Barry, go ahead.
Speaker 6: So I'm thinking about who else to add? Shane. That
Speaker 6: was a great perspective to think, who's who's going to
Speaker 6: take those l's. I'm pretty certain we're going to see
Speaker 6: Jarrett because it's the Owen Cup and he's in every
Speaker 6: year and they need somebody to lose and you can
Speaker 6: use him as really sympathetic up against the heel And
Speaker 6: there you go. As far as another, I'd love to
Speaker 6: see Takeshta, it was somebody from the Callous family, whether
Speaker 6: it's to Kester Fletcher. I really think they got a
Speaker 6: good thing with loading up with the three people they
Speaker 6: have announced. I know you guys don't like champions being
Speaker 6: in there. I think if they're tag holders, the Trios
Speaker 6: or tag champs, that would be good. I'd love to
Speaker 6: see MJF and somebody from the Hurt Syndicate in there
Speaker 6: meeting in the first round. That could add some tention
Speaker 6: to that feud. So I thought I was thinking a
Speaker 6: little different from Shane's perspective, is like, who could be
Speaker 6: a first round matchup that could further storylines And that's
Speaker 6: kind of that's why I was thinking. You know, I'd
Speaker 6: love to see MGF and maybe Shelton Benderman in their
Speaker 6: MGF and lashly use this tournament instead of putting in
Speaker 6: a couple more job guys, since all In is so
Speaker 6: far away, use this tournament to book your top star
Speaker 6: main event guys in your your top star main events
Speaker 6: for your next couple of dynamites and collisions. There's no
Speaker 6: reason you got to rush this in a in a
Speaker 6: month or six week period. Each show is going to
Speaker 6: have a main event that's relating to the owen you
Speaker 6: loaded up with top guys. It kind of books itself
Speaker 6: from a programming perspective, and then you can flesh out
Speaker 6: the rest of the show with your other storylines and angles.
Speaker 3: I'm really glad that you brought up MJF because I
Speaker 3: think he's kind of getting a little bit forgotten in AW.
Speaker 3: I don't know, is anybody else going to say MJF.
Speaker 4: I thought about go ahead, no good, No, yes, I
Speaker 4: was gonna say MJF would be fantastic, but go ahead.
Speaker 1: I'm okay.
Speaker 7: So I'm thinking Buddy Matthews needs to be involved. And
Speaker 7: I also want to see Dastin Rhodes. You know, I
Speaker 7: don't want to see Jef Jared again. Dastin Rhodes knows
Speaker 7: to put on a good match, clean match, and he's sympathetic,
Speaker 7: Like Barry said, so Dastin rose Is might pick to
Speaker 7: at least win one match.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't want to bump out the first round, but
Speaker 7: he has ties to owen two.
Speaker 8: I was going to also say Dustin Rhodes, I would
Speaker 8: very much so like to see him in this. I
Speaker 8: like him in general, and I think this is a
Speaker 8: fantastic place for him to showcase what he's got. So
Speaker 8: that's my choice.
Speaker 3: Interesting that it's it's it's interesting that nobody said guys
Speaker 3: like Roderick Strong or Adam Cole. Although Adam Cole already
Speaker 3: has a title shot at Dynasty, maybe it's not a
Speaker 3: good idea to put him in there. But look, this
Speaker 3: is Baward hart Cup isn't going to be rushed this year.
Speaker 3: It doesn't look like it looks like it's going to
Speaker 3: take place over several weeks instead of just a month,
Speaker 3: so at least I hope so so yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: Roderick Strong, Adam Cole. Uh, you can even Kyle O'Reilly.
Speaker 6: What any of those interview after Dynasty Tolson, do you
Speaker 6: know is it double or nothing?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't know double or.
Speaker 6: Nothing's coming up? And so we got Dynasty double or
Speaker 6: nothing Forbidden Door and then ernest for one door before
Speaker 6: or after all in.
Speaker 3: I believe it's after all in.
Speaker 6: So is that I feel like we're missing one in there.
Speaker 7: It goes it goes dynasty double or nothing then all in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean okay, okay, yeah, basically all in and
Speaker 3: double or all in and uh forbid door kind of
Speaker 3: flip flopped a little bit or not in their usual
Speaker 3: time slots put it that way or a month's later.
Speaker 6: I would set for the own to what you're saying
Speaker 6: is not rush the Owen. The finals of the Owen
Speaker 6: should be on the pay per view before all In,
Speaker 6: and then that gives them a month to continue that
Speaker 6: feud and into the UH and heading into all in.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, Shane, Well Shane, let's move on. What what
Speaker 3: do you want to talk about here?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean we could stick with the own, the
Speaker 4: Owen Cup and the women. I mean we got Monette
Speaker 4: Hater Stark's Athena, Rosa stat Lander. That's that's pretty heavy.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: We we're getting some exposition right now outside of the
Speaker 4: Owen Cup with Money and Athena, which I'd kind of
Speaker 4: like to see separate from the Owen Cup.
Speaker 1: That's my opinion.
Speaker 4: I think this is going to be a fantastic feud,
Speaker 4: a great way to get these belts off of Mercedes.
Speaker 4: So she could kind of, you know, redirect towards the
Speaker 4: the bigger picture, the women's world scene, which we know
Speaker 4: that's where she's headed. But you know, the own Cup
Speaker 4: for with the women look looks pretty stacked right now.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there's six women in the cup already,
Speaker 3: there's only two slots left.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll probably see Willow and a wild card. And
Speaker 4: I'm going to assume that a wild card would either
Speaker 4: be you know, someone from the roh or the New
Speaker 4: Japan side, or someone coming back from injury, could be
Speaker 4: Britt Baker. You know, she's in under contract with Tony
Speaker 4: Kah for another couple of years in spite of you know,
Speaker 4: whatever indiscretions they might be having. You know, Barry shirt,
Speaker 4: it's a work, It's always a work.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, well, well, well well placed advertising today, thank you.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, I think this women's the women's
Speaker 4: own couple looks fantastic right now. Then it's hard to
Speaker 4: call the ball.
Speaker 3: Oh Barry, let me ask you, what about the ragining
Speaker 3: owen Hart Cup winner. Do you think she enters it,
Speaker 3: and that, of course is Mariah May.
Speaker 6: You know, does that we want to hold off on
Speaker 6: that segue into the next segment, though, I'd love to
Speaker 6: see Mariah in there.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 6: And if we're going to talk about previous champs, isn't
Speaker 6: Willow a previous champ?
Speaker 3: To Willow is a previous champ. Baker is a previous champ.
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 6: I think that's it, right.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, Britt Britt, Britt and Adam Cole won
Speaker 3: the first one, and then it was uh uh Ricky
Speaker 3: Starks and Willow and then it was Mariah May and
Speaker 3: uh who won it last year?
Speaker 6: I thought, who did win the men's last year? Yeah,
Speaker 6: So if we're looking for a different a couple extra entrants,
Speaker 6: I'd like to see Julia Harden there. They don't have
Speaker 6: her in a program developed with anybody right now, So
Speaker 6: get her in there. And you know, if we're gonna
Speaker 6: grab somebody out of left field something, we have an
Speaker 6: answer tam With the men's I'd like them to pull
Speaker 6: somebody from another promotion. If we're talking about somebody who'd
Speaker 6: taken out bringing in New Japan or CMML personality. So
Speaker 6: with the men and then with the women Stardom CMML
Speaker 6: as well works. Uh, you know, bring in some talent
Speaker 6: from from overseas to take that out a little showcase
Speaker 6: in the first round.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, I mean it won't be Mina shira
Speaker 3: Kala because she's a little busy right now. She's I
Speaker 3: believe the first week of this month is when she
Speaker 3: wraps up with with Stardom, but she's already booked for
Speaker 3: a couple of dates. She's taking on azm or Azumi. Uh,
Speaker 3: pretty soon. There's I mean four rounds round. I can
Speaker 3: stretch it out. I just don't see Mina Shirakala coming
Speaker 3: in and taking a spot in this. I really don't
Speaker 3: the joker position.
Speaker 6: And then and that's the big reveal in six weeks
Speaker 6: or whatever when they do the next first round match
Speaker 6: for the women.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they do that, it's going to be down
Speaker 3: the road. It really will be. Anybody else have any
Speaker 3: ideas about the two women that should fill in the
Speaker 3: spot that's open.
Speaker 8: I would like to see Palazzo in it. I'd like
Speaker 8: to see her do some more. I think she's really good.
Speaker 8: And yeah, I'd like to see her out there some more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, when you're talking about aw's women's division,
Speaker 3: and we're going to get into like an injury report
Speaker 3: in just a little bit. But with the women that
Speaker 3: are there right now, in the last three AW shows
Speaker 3: that aired on the regular timeslot, not counting the Collisions,
Speaker 3: the Slam Dug Collisions that had that aired at eleven o'clock,
Speaker 3: but the last two Dynamites and the last Collision were
Speaker 3: all main evented by women. Megan Baine, as a matter
Speaker 3: of fact, made event at the last two Dynamites that
Speaker 3: has not been done by a woman since twenty twenty
Speaker 3: three when a Carusheeda took on and beat Tony Storm
Speaker 3: in the main event of Dynamite. I believe it was
Speaker 3: in August of twenty twenty three, and then the next
Speaker 3: week she took on Anna j in the main event
Speaker 3: of Dynamite. So the Karlsheda and Megan Bain, there's some
Speaker 3: history for you there.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if we're sticking with the men, I
Speaker 4: know you had something to say about this, but like,
Speaker 4: the women are getting a lot of airtime, especially in
Speaker 4: the main event arena and the AW standard shows.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. Do you think does anybody think that this
Speaker 3: point blank that revolution there has been an argument that
Speaker 3: Tony Storm and Mariah May should have or could have
Speaker 3: made event to that, do you think that Dynasty or
Speaker 3: even Double or nothing has a possibility of a women's
Speaker 3: made event or even all in.
Speaker 4: Love to see it. I would love to see it, honestly.
Speaker 4: And it's great that they're getting, you know, the headline
Speaker 4: on the standard shows. It's great they're getting more representation.
Speaker 4: But I want, I do believe that they deserve It's
Speaker 4: not a deserving thing. They're entitled to a main event
Speaker 4: for pay per view. Tony Storm's feud with Mariah May
Speaker 4: was probably the most interesting thing going on in professional
Speaker 4: wrestling for five and a half months. That could have
Speaker 4: easily headlined that show and kept asses in seats the
Speaker 4: entire time.
Speaker 3: Jane, that was sixteen months that story went on. Sure,
Speaker 3: there was a long break with Tony Storm, wasn't there,
Speaker 3: but that was part of the story as well. But
Speaker 3: it was sixteen months from beginning to end.
Speaker 4: I mean every single turn, every single you know, like
Speaker 4: every single surprise it kept. It was very fresh, and
Speaker 4: yeah that if they're going to keep the women's division
Speaker 4: like pumping like this, I could see it happening. It
Speaker 4: should happen. I don't think it's happening soon, though.
Speaker 3: Anybody else think that the women are going to makee
Speaker 3: event the pay per view anytime soon? I do. Shane doesn't,
Speaker 3: even though he would like to see it, he doesn't
Speaker 3: think it's going to happen. I do think it's going
Speaker 3: to happen.
Speaker 6: I think they can. I don't think there's anything right
Speaker 6: now that justifies it. The chance was the Mariah made
Speaker 6: Tony Storm blow off like that was that was the
Speaker 6: time to do it, and it just didn't line up
Speaker 6: with what they were looking to do. But if they
Speaker 6: were going to main event, that was it. And it's
Speaker 6: not the women's fault. They're just not given as much
Speaker 6: stuff to work with. So there's only two, maybe three
Speaker 6: storylines at a time as opposed to six or seven
Speaker 6: with the men now right now, if you're looking at them,
Speaker 6: you have to start a build for that to justify
Speaker 6: it in a couple months. I mean, they're capable of it.
Speaker 6: I don't think anybody can sit here objectively and argue
Speaker 6: that Tony Storm versus Mariah may wouldn't have been a
Speaker 6: draw for a main event like it was, Like Shane said,
Speaker 6: and Kelson mentioned, some of the best content in storylines,
Speaker 6: in acting really for professional wrestling in a long long time,
Speaker 6: like nothing had been done like that. I think we
Speaker 6: saw a complete character transformation of character work on parallel
Speaker 6: so far, but that's an outlier, like that's exceptional. There
Speaker 6: isn't enough consistency yet to give them that. And I
Speaker 6: think the last couple of weeks I've been trial runs,
Speaker 6: what sort of draw are the ladies. It's not been
Speaker 6: like Rando Women main eventing. It's been the Top women
Speaker 6: main eventing. The biggest story they got going is the
Speaker 6: Tony Storm rhyme for making bain things. So like they're
Speaker 6: keeping the main people in there and see how they draw,
Speaker 6: and it's been mixed. Some's been good, some's been bad,
Speaker 6: but you're not going to know those until you try.
Speaker 6: And the other thing to keep in mind is their
Speaker 6: main eventing. Are they giving them enough juice to pulling
Speaker 6: ratings for that or is it just seemed thrown together?
Speaker 6: So I think we're going to see them experiment a
Speaker 6: little more and if they get something going that's really hot, yeah,
Speaker 6: no reason they can't Maine event just like any other storyline.
Speaker 7: So I can see the only one I could see
Speaker 7: main eventing would be double or nothing, and that would
Speaker 7: be if they could figure out how to do Mercedes
Speaker 7: versus Athena. Either all want it to be great bad. I
Speaker 7: don't see all In doing it, but double or nothing.
Speaker 7: I can see that storyline happening, and if they can
Speaker 7: juice it up well enough.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, you know that Athena is from yeah, Texas, Texas,
Speaker 3: so yeah, I mean right right there in the backyard,
Speaker 3: So that would make a little bit of sense happened
Speaker 3: Athena e mer Sades at all In in Texas. I
Speaker 3: just think that's a little bit too long of a
Speaker 3: build for for that, Matt, But I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, I mean, especially especially lately with how they kind
Speaker 4: of been dragging out some of the other storylines that
Speaker 4: are in play. Yeah, I think all like waiting for
Speaker 4: Texas is a very long time.
Speaker 7: I don't know they've done it before, but you know
Speaker 7: they're trying to hype up Ocado versus Kenny for all Into, So.
Speaker 5: I mean, you never know what could happen, but I
Speaker 5: could see it.
Speaker 6: I think they should hold off to Allan. I think
Speaker 6: they should slow roll this. I think they should slow
Speaker 6: roll this and they should just tease it, have them
Speaker 6: have wars of words or war words as they dance
Speaker 6: around the edges, like I'm saying, and then have them
Speaker 6: in something at a pay per view. But slow roll
Speaker 6: this because somebody else at the moment is all in.
Speaker 6: If you were going to establish somebody as a new star,
Speaker 6: there's two ways to do it. They're going to win
Speaker 6: the big title or they're going to win the TVs title.
Speaker 6: A win over Mercedes Monnett arguably can establish somebody stronger
Speaker 6: than a win over Tarney Storm for the belt right now,
Speaker 6: that's debatable. But you've got two very very strong champions
Speaker 6: right now in the women's division, and these are opportunities
Speaker 6: to make a new star. And if you're going to
Speaker 6: do that, you do that at the biggest event possible.
Speaker 6: And that's all in. So if she's going to be
Speaker 6: the go forward in the TBS division Athena, you do
Speaker 6: it on the biggest stage possible in her hometown to
Speaker 6: make that as big a deal as possible. Otherwise it's
Speaker 6: a wasted opportunity in my view. I'm with MK on that.
Speaker 3: Well, here's another thing that you'd need to consider as well.
Speaker 3: I brought this up earlier Azuomi and Mina Shirikala at
Speaker 3: Resurgence later this month. I believe are sling to become
Speaker 3: the number one contender for the n jp W Strong
Speaker 3: Women's title. Uh. The winner of that that could be
Speaker 3: a match for Mercedes at double or nothing right.
Speaker 5: There, I can see.
Speaker 7: Okay, So here's my thing. I think Athena is somehow
Speaker 7: going to lose her title, and Mercedes will lose one
Speaker 7: of her titles, thus fueling the fire. They'll cause each
Speaker 7: other to loon or something, and then they'll face it
Speaker 7: all in.
Speaker 5: That's what I would like to see.
Speaker 3: I don't think that Athena is going to lose that
Speaker 3: I ever lose that title. They've made too much of
Speaker 3: a big deal out of the forever champion. I think
Speaker 3: that they're going to have her vacated like somebod with
Speaker 3: Joe vacated his and go from there.
Speaker 5: See I hate that myself.
Speaker 6: But what's the other She's got two belts? Though, what's
Speaker 6: the other promotion she has it from?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 6: Two belts? The spinner back?
Speaker 5: And then?
Speaker 6: Or is it just okay? I thought she had an
Speaker 6: Indie belt, So in my bed, no you can.
Speaker 4: We're gonna I'm gonna check that. I did want to
Speaker 4: make a point, Barry kind of piggyback off of what
Speaker 4: you said. As much as I hate the idea of
Speaker 4: them dragging it to Texas, it is an opportunity for
Speaker 4: them to do some fun stuff behind the scenes, Like,
Speaker 4: you know, we could put the minions to work, have
Speaker 4: some story that way, and we're getting you know, people
Speaker 4: getting are getting attacked behind state, behind the scenes. You know,
Speaker 4: there's they could drag it out and have it be
Speaker 4: fun and kind of make sure the women.
Speaker 3: And Shane don't forget that. On Collision, we saw the
Speaker 3: seed planted of the Renegades joining with Mercedes bone H.
Speaker 3: Robin Renegade of course was there. Charlotte Renegade has been injured,
Speaker 3: but it looks like she may be able to come
Speaker 3: back soon. And she's been cutting hair. She's been she's
Speaker 3: that's what she's been doing in her time off. And
Speaker 3: but she did make a comment about Robin at Collision
Speaker 3: and how psych she was, So that was interesting. Speaking
Speaker 3: of injured wrestlers, Shane like Charlotte Renegade.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm gonna run down who we got out right,
Speaker 4: like the official aw, this is what they've given to
Speaker 4: the media their list of talent that's out and I'll
Speaker 4: try to be as fast as possible. So we have
Speaker 4: Red Velvet with an unknown injury back in January. Buddy
Speaker 4: Matthews has an ankle injury that he sustained Grand Slam.
Speaker 4: Juice Robinson the broken fabia on collision. Back in November,
Speaker 4: kill Switch had like serious long term pneumonia. They thought
Speaker 4: he was going to die. He's just kinda he says
Speaker 4: he's ready. No, there's no story, but there are conflicting
Speaker 4: stories about him coming back because of long term implications
Speaker 4: of his respiratory stuff.
Speaker 1: Nick Comarado has a hip injury.
Speaker 4: Skyblue has been out since July twenty two, twenty four,
Speaker 4: just went under underwent.
Speaker 1: Surgery and.
Speaker 4: She provided an update and said that she's not cleared yet.
Speaker 4: Dalton Castle has an unknown injury that he sustained in
Speaker 4: collision and he's going to be out until the middle
Speaker 4: of this year. Rehost fractured arm. She's going to be
Speaker 4: out for another six months. Matt saidel's a broken right
Speaker 4: foot that he's currently in rehab for. Trent Burrett is
Speaker 4: an active from a spine injury that he had surgery
Speaker 4: on that he's doing PT for Eddie Kingston with his
Speaker 4: torn ACL and his meniscus back in May, which he's
Speaker 4: currently in PT for very public about his recovery, so
Speaker 4: I could see Eddie coming back sooner than later. The
Speaker 4: Blader had ruptured discs in his spine spinal fusion, says
Speaker 4: surgery was scheduled for this year, or teases out with
Speaker 4: a torn peck that he sustained in January twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: But I've seen that he's scheduled for indie shows coming
Speaker 4: up here soon, so I think they're just not using
Speaker 4: him in AW And then Keith Lee s has long
Speaker 4: term COVID, but he's been hanging out backstage since February,
Speaker 4: so he could be back anytime. And Uh, that's the
Speaker 4: injury report. That's everybody.
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, that is quite a roster of wrestlers that
Speaker 3: are injured.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry that we haven't done the injury report. No
Speaker 4: a red hot second Colson. I think it was a
Speaker 4: couple of months the last one, so.
Speaker 3: I can't remember the last time we did one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we used to do them all the time, so
Speaker 4: any I will, let's move to the panel. You know
Speaker 4: who you guys pumped to see him back. I got
Speaker 4: I'm all for a Dalton Castle.
Speaker 1: That just me. The Keith Lee is amazing as well.
Speaker 4: I think Keithley has world champion written all over him
Speaker 4: with if I think if Swerve holds, then Keig Lee
Speaker 4: coming back will look fantastic.
Speaker 6: I yeah, I want to see Dalton Castle come back,
Speaker 6: and I want to see him working with Megan Bain.
Speaker 6: I want to see him. I want to see him
Speaker 6: be Megan Bane's employee. I think that would be great.
Speaker 6: I think I think he has the charisma and the
Speaker 6: character to pull it off. I'm bummed the Boys aren't
Speaker 6: there anymore due to whatever happened with that. You can
Speaker 6: get some new ones or whatever. But like Dalton Castle's
Speaker 6: stick where they are doing it and worshiping Megan Bane,
Speaker 6: I think that would be amazing. Especially if she jobs
Speaker 6: out of the pay per view. That's the next piece
Speaker 6: to keep her fresh on TV. He's down a little bit,
Speaker 6: Dalton Castle picks her back up.
Speaker 3: Work outrunners being the Boys brought a consistent basis there
Speaker 3: for a while before Dalton got injured.
Speaker 5: Yes, I think the.
Speaker 1: Boys are now, Aw's dooint the clown. We don't know
Speaker 1: who's going to be.
Speaker 6: They're a lottery backstage.
Speaker 8: They should have a few people be the boys, like
Speaker 8: alternate them every so often every week. It is some
Speaker 8: kind of gimmick, some kind of joke. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 8: just anybody, anybody come out as as a boy.
Speaker 3: I would love to see age character come out as yeah, exactly,
Speaker 3: just disgusted.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it would be great.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 3: To get on his hands and knees so that can
Speaker 3: climb up in there.
Speaker 6: That his doing that.
Speaker 3: Oh God, take my money now.
Speaker 8: I think Max Pastor would be good as one of
Speaker 8: the boys arguing about who's better, who looks better?
Speaker 6: You know, Max. I think Max would be really good
Speaker 6: at that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, speaking of Max, anybody else Fantasy book Max's open
Speaker 6: challenge at all in being on Cold?
Speaker 3: Oh no, I keep hearing that it's the most preposterous thing.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean it's a hilarious It would it would.
Speaker 3: Make sense just literally Stone Cold wouldn't have to wrestle.
Speaker 6: Right, he's in Austin. It would be a huge pop.
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously it's not gonna happen, but I mean
Speaker 6: the logistics and the storytelling workout. Max Caster's open challenge,
Speaker 6: the glass hits whatever generic rip off of his team.
Speaker 6: He comes out kicks and using the sunner, leaves a
Speaker 6: million dollars pay day. Everybody loses their mind. I mean
Speaker 6: for a moment, never gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd have to call him stunning Steve Austin instead
Speaker 3: of Stone. I'm just saying.
Speaker 7: So, I want Keith Lee to come back, but I
Speaker 7: want him to be worked back up at Dynasty.
Speaker 5: He didn't need to back up.
Speaker 7: And I really think that those two compared to they
Speaker 7: have history, know if they ever made up or not,
Speaker 7: but uh, you know, he don't need to back up
Speaker 7: to beat John Moxley with all the interference, and I
Speaker 7: think big big Hole himself, Keith.
Speaker 5: Lee would would be a great fit for that.
Speaker 4: What what's the other side of that coin, is Keith
Speaker 4: Lee coming back and like partnering back up with sort
Speaker 4: of Strickland joining the embassy. That could be fun. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, look, hey, we were homies. Men pug it out,
Speaker 4: you know, time time heals all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am one with you on the men's side,
Speaker 3: Keith Lee. Don't get me wrong. I want all the
Speaker 3: wrestlers that are injured to come back healthy and able
Speaker 3: to wrestle. Wrestle by the way. I love Eddie Kingston,
Speaker 3: but on the women's side and on the women's side
Speaker 3: sky Blue, I mean just having her back with Julia
Speaker 3: Hart or even and Leenomanada, if that's the way they
Speaker 3: want to go. Uh, it's she's she's just she's a
Speaker 3: work course, she's wanted a workhourses of aw they need her.
Speaker 3: She always puts on a good show and she's popular.
Speaker 6: So she was really humbling before she got her.
Speaker 3: Knew, Yeah, she was coming into her own.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I do believe she was on track to get a
Speaker 3: title belt. I think she may have gotten the TBS
Speaker 3: title if Mercedes Moda didn't come along and ruined that.
Speaker 3: But hey, but Shane, you had something else you wanted
Speaker 3: to talk about.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at free agency, and you know, obviously this
Speaker 4: is a big year for free agency across the entire
Speaker 4: you know, Professional Wrestling Platform, AWWWE, New Japan, they all
Speaker 4: have huge contract the TNA, huge contracts on the way
Speaker 4: out the door. So I mean, just to get given
Speaker 4: an example, you know, WWE. This is aj styles final
Speaker 4: year with WWE as far as we know right now,
Speaker 4: and he's refused to sign anything both from the TNA
Speaker 4: side and the WWE side, Well, how crazy would that
Speaker 4: be to see him come over to AW after his
Speaker 4: contract is up at the end of May. That'd be sweet,
Speaker 4: That's like, that's like dream for mem so. But yeah,
Speaker 4: what do you guys, You guys got any insight on
Speaker 4: the whole free agency thing or who is a free
Speaker 4: agent or who's on the back end of their contracts.
Speaker 1: Most of who we follow, Mariah is up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that with Mariah, her contract is up,
Speaker 3: her original contract. But fightful at other places have said
Speaker 3: that AW has options there, and AW, if they do
Speaker 3: have options, would be incredibly stupid not check exercise those options.
Speaker 3: We just don't. We just don't know.
Speaker 6: Good on her believing on herself and doing that shorter
Speaker 6: term contract though, because I know Tony tries to get
Speaker 6: a lot of people over in three or five years
Speaker 6: and she knew what she had. That's losing if Mariah jumped,
Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's a sizeable loss, and it's I mean,
Speaker 6: there's no way WWE wouldn't go after her. She's a
Speaker 6: great talent and she was in one of the biggest
Speaker 6: storylines of the year in any promotion.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that Tony is I think Tony
Speaker 4: would put the jags on keeping Mariah May, and he'd
Speaker 4: be stupid not to like she. She's she will be
Speaker 4: quintessential and whatever they choose to do to elevate the
Speaker 4: women's division within the next six months when she comes back,
Speaker 4: there's going to be hell to pay.
Speaker 6: Oh huge pop when she comes back.
Speaker 4: Huge can't so or even I mean, like we didn't
Speaker 4: consider her being in the Owen uh the Owen Hard Cup.
Speaker 4: You know, imagine they have a wild card or a
Speaker 4: joker and it's Mariah May. She takes it all the
Speaker 4: way and she's up against Tony Storm.
Speaker 6: Again at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: When you're talking free agency, Shane. One of the things
Speaker 3: that look, as you said, there are wrestlers in TNA
Speaker 3: and New Japan and wwe don't forget Stardom that are
Speaker 3: have contracts expiring. You also have people and of course
Speaker 3: AW that has contract expiring. But more so what you
Speaker 3: have at AW are a bunch of wrestlers that frankly
Speaker 3: are on the absentee list. They are cleared to wrestle,
Speaker 3: but they're just not wrestling, and why have them on
Speaker 3: the roster. You know, we're talking about free agencies We've
Speaker 3: got to talk about releases as well. I mean, look
Speaker 3: at look, Britt Baker could be released. Why keep Britt Baker?
Speaker 3: If somebody like a zoom for just throwing a name
Speaker 3: out there, a ZOOMI your Starlight kid from start to
Speaker 3: become available, why would you keep Britt Baker not even wrestling.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm.
Speaker 1: Just saying the politics behind the scenes with it.
Speaker 4: It's now known that there that Britt Baker was gate
Speaker 4: keeping the locker room for the women. It's unfortunately, you know,
Speaker 4: like like that's all out in the open, and we
Speaker 4: didn't really see her start to kind of go down
Speaker 4: in programming until that was kind of publicized. So I
Speaker 4: mean with the Britt Baker thing, yeah, yeah, like do
Speaker 4: we I agree with you Kelson? Just drop her if
Speaker 4: she doesn't want to be here. See you have a
Speaker 4: nice day and enjoy your time in NXT with all
Speaker 4: your old friends. You know, see it in six months
Speaker 4: when they dump you for the next round of guys
Speaker 4: that they're gonna poach you know. Yeah right, he like
Speaker 4: remove all like regarding a e W stuff from her
Speaker 4: like Twitter, like remove all the yeah, scrubbed.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, we aw just picked up Kevin Knight
Speaker 3: mm hmm. You know, look, if you have wrestler that
Speaker 3: is not wrestling and you replace that wrestler with Kevin Knight,
Speaker 3: that's a great pickup. It's a great pickup. There's no
Speaker 3: other way to look at it. It's a great pickup.
Speaker 3: We talked about the olwen Hart. Kevin Knight's another name
Speaker 3: you can throw in there as a participant in that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, doesn't know, nobody would expect them to win.
Speaker 7: No great way to introduce him though, and that's what
Speaker 7: they need right now because I don't know much about him,
Speaker 7: so it will be nice to see him have have
Speaker 7: imagined build him up a little bit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I talked a little bit about this on the discord.
Speaker 6: WWE's got clearly they've got an XT which from a
Speaker 6: I don't even know if you can call them a
Speaker 6: developmental territory anymore or promotion. They're almost a third brand,
Speaker 6: if not a formal third brand. But they've got that
Speaker 6: going there, and there's that's a direction for a lot
Speaker 6: of performers to work towards out on the indies, and
Speaker 6: now with the WWID program, they've got a whole other
Speaker 6: layer below that to kind of grow that audience that
Speaker 6: they'll draft up from. It's a really really well developed
Speaker 6: farm system and AAW doesn't have that. So Tony, if
Speaker 6: you look at a lot of the hires they've been doing,
Speaker 6: he's been really focusing on a lot of people under
Speaker 6: thirty five, especially a lot of talent under thirty, having
Speaker 6: those guys that if you lose top stars and you
Speaker 6: start building them now in two or three years, those
Speaker 6: are those those next top stars, and they're at an
Speaker 6: age where you can ride those guys for ten to
Speaker 6: fifteen years. You know, you're not bringing in You're not
Speaker 6: bringing in somebody who's thirty five, who's got five or
Speaker 6: six years where they can still kind of go full speed,
Speaker 6: and then they start having to taper off because while
Speaker 6: the character work and the promos of their peak, the
Speaker 6: body really starts falling off. So he's he's really been
Speaker 6: focusing on those hires, and I think Kevin Hurt or
Speaker 6: not Kevin Hurt, Kevin is a good addition to that
Speaker 6: group of guys. And you've got you know, hang Man,
Speaker 6: You've got Swerve, You've got Osprey, you've got m JF.
Speaker 6: You know, a lot of these younger top guys are
Speaker 6: are pretty young and Uh and I think this is
Speaker 6: a good edition of that group and growing up.
Speaker 3: Erry, I got to disagree with you on something that
Speaker 3: you said, and that you said or alluded to at
Speaker 3: least that AW does not have a developmental promotion, and
Speaker 3: I disagree with you. It's called New Japan Pro Wrestling.
Speaker 6: I was going to go there, Kelson, I don't want.
Speaker 3: To go there. I was thinking about it as a joke.
Speaker 3: It's funny because God, honestly, God, it's the truth.
Speaker 6: Though I was thinking and mentioning from a developmental that
Speaker 6: they have to pull from other promotions like CMML RevPro
Speaker 6: and New Japan. But I decided not to as I
Speaker 6: was saying it. But like, it's a joke, but it's
Speaker 6: not untrue. And I think we've seen, especially for a
Speaker 6: lot of North American and European talent, being it's a
Speaker 6: lot easier logistically to work for AW than it is
Speaker 6: New Japan. But a lot of them are very fond memories.
Speaker 6: They like to go back and work there. It's a
Speaker 6: fun place for a lot of them to work, So
Speaker 6: I don't think that's a bad thing. But you know,
Speaker 6: a lot of us have a soft spot for New
Speaker 6: Japan and it's hard seeing some of the talent that
Speaker 6: they spend years developing leave. But that's the way wrestling
Speaker 6: is now, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, we've seen a lot of people in AW leave,
Speaker 3: you know with the last what year to you know,
Speaker 3: year year and a half, though it happens. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's why, that's the way wrestling is.
Speaker 8: As you said, I'd like to mention about Kevin Knight.
Speaker 8: I've seen him in the Independence and I saw a
Speaker 8: phenomenal match between he and Benjamin Shelton, just amazing, and
Speaker 8: I've seen some of his work in New Japan. I
Speaker 8: like him a lot. I think he's a really good
Speaker 8: addition to AW. I also think that what's his name,
Speaker 8: Blake who.
Speaker 3: Wrestled Kenny Christian.
Speaker 8: I think that he's really good and there's a lot
Speaker 8: of potential there. So I would agree with the younger
Speaker 8: guys coming in and being the next top stars. I
Speaker 8: can see it with at least those two wrestlers right there.
Speaker 6: I'd also like to say I'm an idiot because AW
Speaker 6: does have a development or territory. It's called Ring of Honor,
Speaker 6: and it's literally their developmental promotion, and it just right
Speaker 6: out of my head. So it popped that.
Speaker 3: In my head.
Speaker 6: I'm like, how did I forget about Ring of Honor?
Speaker 6: I'm an idiot? So thank you Nett for inadvertently reminding me.
Speaker 6: I'm an idiot.
Speaker 3: You know what, though, I didn't even think about it
Speaker 3: because I honestly don't consider Ring of Honor development will
Speaker 3: watch it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just don't see it.
Speaker 3: That's why I think it's its own entity and it's
Speaker 3: got the history and I if you watch a Ring
Speaker 3: of Honor, it's a damn good show. It's it's meaningful.
Speaker 3: I enjoy it.
Speaker 1: It is what it is.
Speaker 4: I mean like when I think about Ring of Honor,
Speaker 4: I think about like twenty fourteen through seventeen, like when
Speaker 4: the Ring of Honor boom was like a really big thing,
Speaker 4: you know, Tony Kahan putting his hands on that product
Speaker 4: kind of Tony conified it.
Speaker 1: It's more of just like died aw. I love Ring
Speaker 1: of Honor. Yeah good, I'm just saying, you know, like
Speaker 1: that is what it is, so still love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I couldn't.
Speaker 6: Flavor give it its own flavor. Just let somebody else
Speaker 6: book it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Scott da More, Gail Can.
Speaker 3: All of the well.
Speaker 6: Speaking of hiring a free agency that you didn't mention that.
Speaker 6: I really really hope, especially since we've talked about the
Speaker 6: women's division so much, that AW has at least talked
Speaker 6: with Gail Kim from like what she did with the
Speaker 6: women in TNA over the years. I think she would
Speaker 6: be She's she's as great a backstage hire, assuming she's
Speaker 6: a professional. I don't I've never heard anything other than
Speaker 6: everybody loves working with her. She'd be a surefire thing
Speaker 6: for backstage possible.
Speaker 3: You know, you know Barry in this podcast we were
Speaker 3: talking about the women's division, and in the early days
Speaker 3: of this podcast, and there was a time on this
Speaker 3: podcast where TNA was the women's division, the women's division.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Gail Kim.
Speaker 4: What she's known for in the industry being able to
Speaker 4: confidently tell people know why and why it's going to
Speaker 4: benefit them, and she has a very high success right
Speaker 4: in that, which is I think is something that Tony
Speaker 4: Kahan needs, especially in the women's division. Someone that's going
Speaker 4: to come in and say, hey, I know this better
Speaker 4: than you do. No, this is a stupid idea. Let's
Speaker 4: do it this.
Speaker 3: Way and two matches every show, let me run it
Speaker 3: so Basically, what you're saying is, if Gail Came is
Speaker 3: hired by a W Britt Baker is absolutely out.
Speaker 4: I would I would, dud.
Speaker 6: Do we know that Britt isn't just deciding maybe to
Speaker 6: retire dude to her thing and just focus on being
Speaker 6: a dentist here in Orlando? Like do we know that?
Speaker 6: Are we certain.
Speaker 3: It could be?
Speaker 6: I mean, because if she was to sign with w W,
Speaker 6: she couldn't be a dentist anymore. The schedule is too tough,
Speaker 6: and I don't know if she wants to give that up.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, I will have to give her
Speaker 3: a call. I'll give her a call after the podcast.
Speaker 4: Is it like it's aebrity dentist things like a celebrity therapist.
Speaker 1: We're going to be Baker.
Speaker 6: It's in winter Park back in the day. Yeah, she'd
Speaker 6: ever belts for her any promotions and stuff. But I
Speaker 6: don't think they do new clients anymore. It's all just
Speaker 6: for existing ones. I have a friend of mine who
Speaker 6: goes to the dentist, but he sees the one of
Speaker 6: the guys that's there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I wanted to bring up some news that came
Speaker 3: out a couple of days ago. I think it was
Speaker 3: actually yesterday morning that it came out. BJ Bethel, how
Speaker 3: do you put out? Is it s scoops or SE scoops?
Speaker 5: Guys that are to go scoops?
Speaker 3: It's see scoops. Uh. He said that on average, since
Speaker 3: aw went to Max, on average here the first twenty
Speaker 3: four hours after show airs, meaning either live or within
Speaker 3: a twenty four hour period, it's averaging five hundred k
Speaker 3: viewers a week. That's an average of five hundred k
Speaker 3: viewers a week. So sometimes it's more and sometimes it's less,
Speaker 3: which means that the average Dynamite from this year is
Speaker 3: getting one million to one point two million viewers a week,
Speaker 3: which is really good. Now fightful select Sean ross Sapp
Speaker 3: made a post that has got about six thousand votes.
Speaker 3: The last time I looked, asking, uh, well, I hate
Speaker 3: bringing this up like this, asking if you watch there
Speaker 3: was three options. Do you watch Dynamite on TBS, do
Speaker 3: you watch Dynamite on Max? Or do you pirate the shit?
Speaker 3: Basically is what he asked. Oh wow, by far more
Speaker 3: people watch Dynamite on Max. Forty six percent said they
Speaker 3: watched it on Max. I can't remember the percentages, but
Speaker 3: there's a pretty disturbingly high amount of people who said
Speaker 3: that they pirated it.
Speaker 5: So well, the count Triller I used to I used
Speaker 5: to uh pirate it.
Speaker 3: So you don't want to admit that on the podcast. Man,
Speaker 3: they're gonna come in a.
Speaker 1: Cut that I don't know if.
Speaker 6: You irating, if you're using a formal app to view it,
Speaker 6: maybe you were a little shady and how you signed
Speaker 6: up for it, But I mean it's through a formal
Speaker 6: official channel, So I don't know if i'd say that's pirty.
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe Well, when when you cut the cord and
Speaker 7: they don't have other options, you have to be sneaky,
Speaker 7: so creative.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like it's still you know, guarantees take
Speaker 4: it at tadense t shirts ails. You know you're it's
Speaker 4: still giving product exposure, so which is a great thing
Speaker 4: for a w I mean like they've they've doubled their
Speaker 4: demographic for viewership just by getting over to max.
Speaker 3: They're going to continue to grow.
Speaker 6: I listened to Wrestling Observer talked about this last night
Speaker 6: Alvarez and Meltzer, and then Alvares talked about it on
Speaker 6: The Wrestling Observer Live a little bit today, kind of
Speaker 6: breaking down how streamers and Netflix does this too, so
Speaker 6: they kind of talked about them together on how the
Speaker 6: average viewer number is a calculated thing based on a
Speaker 6: certain number of minutes divided by certain number subscribers and
Speaker 6: this weird thing. So it doesn't necessarily equate to five
Speaker 6: hundred thousand actual people, but all of the viewing of
Speaker 6: that period adds up to five hundred thousand people as
Speaker 6: though they were sitting down and I think live they're
Speaker 6: estimating it was around probably one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty thousand additional or watching live. So
Speaker 6: you add that on top of the other thing that
Speaker 6: I want to add in here that I got over myself.
Speaker 6: So you've got that watching live, and the ratings have
Speaker 6: stayed pretty linear and flat, if not have come up
Speaker 6: from the dip they had in February and not really
Speaker 6: lose one hundred, one hundred and fifty thousand in watching
Speaker 6: on live TV and add that to live streaming. That's
Speaker 6: a that's pretty impressive. It's not WWE impressive, but they're
Speaker 6: not in a completely different situation for AW considering their
Speaker 6: struggles to have that, I think that's impressive, and ratings
Speaker 6: are going to come up before attendance rises significantly, and
Speaker 6: I think we see a little bit better attendance coming
Speaker 6: up on some of these venues too, compared to where
Speaker 6: they've been now. The programming has been a lot better
Speaker 6: up through Revolution hasn't been the same high quality. It's
Speaker 6: just not as much good stuff on each shows, and
Speaker 6: I think that had something to do with it. But
Speaker 6: there's definitely positive signs here. They're not out of the
Speaker 6: weeds and won't be for a while another eighteen to
Speaker 6: twenty four months at least, and because it's just the programming,
Speaker 6: but you look at some of the fig leaves here,
Speaker 6: there's some promising trends.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it really it's cool to see them get the
Speaker 7: million voters. I think you know a lot of people
Speaker 7: on the internet who have that goal post of well
Speaker 7: they can't break a million a million a week, so
Speaker 7: they're not quality, and then we have that that go.
Speaker 7: Both will probably be moved again. But I think they
Speaker 7: did a great service of allowing both cable and streaming
Speaker 7: to be because that gets them additional stuff, where in
Speaker 7: my opinion, WWE kind of shot themself on the foot
Speaker 7: with only being on Netflix and kind of limited their exposure.
Speaker 4: Well, on the topic of WWE, they're reporting viewership in
Speaker 4: the same ballpark. But the way that Netflix calculates viewership
Speaker 4: for WWE is different than how they build that metric
Speaker 4: for Max. You know, anyone that's logged in the Netflix
Speaker 4: could be watching WWE, and they just say that everyone
Speaker 4: that's logged in is watching WWE, which I think is weird.
Speaker 6: Yeah, is that just for them though, Like, as far
Speaker 6: as I know from what I've read up on it.
Speaker 6: In friends of mine in the industry, their metrics for
Speaker 6: streaming is just so bizarre compared to TV. I have
Speaker 6: a friend of mine who works for an agency, and
Speaker 6: he was just talking about how when they're pitching shows,
Speaker 6: the way they have to talk about advertisements they can
Speaker 6: sell on network versus when that goes to streaming and
Speaker 6: how that's bundled per Like, it's just it's really weird
Speaker 6: how they calculate it, and I mean it fits we're
Speaker 6: stuck thinking about television. We talk about streaming services, but
Speaker 6: they're not television. There's something different that happens to have
Speaker 6: shows that are similar to what was on TV, and
Speaker 6: so they crunch those numbers just really really bizarre, And
Speaker 6: I think there's a definite story there to see if
Speaker 6: when it comes to advertising for the live stuff, if
Speaker 6: the advertisers are ever really going to believe any of
Speaker 6: the numbers they're given. We're just dipping our toes into
Speaker 6: live streaming for sporting events, and I include a wrestling
Speaker 6: in that live sports, combat entertainment or whatever. It'll be
Speaker 6: really interesting to see those trends if they do believe
Speaker 6: those numbers long term. And I'm interested to see how
Speaker 6: Netflix is going to lead that because the five hundred
Speaker 6: pund guerrilla is WWE for live programming right now in
Speaker 6: the non you know, n b A NFL world, and
Speaker 6: what they do there are probably set the tone for
Speaker 6: everything else, including AW.
Speaker 3: Down the line, Well, there is one thing that I
Speaker 3: wanted to bring up, actually a couple of things about
Speaker 3: this BJ Bethel story that he that he brought up
Speaker 3: with the five hundred thousand average viewers. He did say that,
Speaker 3: and I don't know if there's any truth to this
Speaker 3: that AW is beating the NHL in viewership on a
Speaker 3: consistent basis. That's they're not beating the NBA. But the
Speaker 3: thing is is that when the when the NHL and
Speaker 3: when the n b A is on Max. Those programs
Speaker 3: are are advertising AW. And now MLB is on Max,
Speaker 3: so not much, but they are on there, and hopefully
Speaker 3: we'll see some advertisements for AW on the Major League
Speaker 3: Baseball broadcast MAX. So you know that's part of it.
Speaker 3: The other thing that he and here's the barometer of
Speaker 3: the success at how AW is growing. This is what
Speaker 3: I use AW right now is running smaller venues, which
Speaker 3: is a great thing. It really adds to the shows.
Speaker 3: The crowds are hotter, they're more visible, they're having a
Speaker 3: good time. You have a good time when you see
Speaker 3: other people having a good time. But my barometer for
Speaker 3: aw's success, if they do get to a point of success,
Speaker 3: is when people start complaining that they're not able to
Speaker 3: get tickets to AW shows because these small venues. That's
Speaker 3: all I wanted to say, Shane, let's go to you.
Speaker 3: What's next? What are we gonna do next?
Speaker 1: We're at Poprie.
Speaker 3: O Perrie.
Speaker 4: Who's got some potpourri today? I've got that's something cute.
Speaker 4: I'll start this one out, so I follow.
Speaker 6: Wait, I want to tag in on a venue thing
Speaker 6: real quick. I thought I was unmuted. I thought I
Speaker 6: was muted. So in two weeks. Aw's at the Masonic
Speaker 6: Temple in Detroit, so that's where I grew up. I've
Speaker 6: been there. It's an amazing venue. It's going to look
Speaker 6: exceptional on television, and I'm super excited to see the
Speaker 6: two though.
Speaker 4: Spec you Shane, Sorry, yeah, I know you're Florida based.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to Tory's. See, I'll drive
Speaker 1: it there.
Speaker 6: Really really cool venue. Yeah, it's gonna be great in
Speaker 6: two weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I saw pictures that's supposed to be like like Hammerstein grades,
Speaker 4: so I can't wait.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I pictures too, that looks awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so all right, back to pot Pourri. Uh, I'll
Speaker 4: star pot Pourri really just something. Usually I like to
Speaker 4: be a jerk during these segments, but today I'm just
Speaker 4: we're chilled today Ruby's I follow Ruby Sojo and Angelo
Speaker 4: Parker on social media and it appears that I don't
Speaker 4: know if they're taking steps back from AW, but they're
Speaker 4: opening a board game shop, like a board game cafe together,
Speaker 4: so like a like a hobby shop. So that looks
Speaker 4: like it's gonna be a lot of fun and good
Speaker 4: for them. They're living there. Got the little slice of
Speaker 4: the American dream.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why not. They got a family. Now what you know,
Speaker 3: do what you gotta do. That's that's awesome.
Speaker 6: Where are they based?
Speaker 1: That is a good question.
Speaker 8: Indiana.
Speaker 4: Someone pick a song off of Indiana and the wolves
Speaker 4: come out from I can't remember the state from Olympia.
Speaker 1: Oh no, they're not from Indiana.
Speaker 3: Indiana.
Speaker 1: It's Indiana.
Speaker 5: Yes, state.
Speaker 1: Where is it?
Speaker 3: Where's Indiana? I have no idea where located in Indiana?
Speaker 6: Indiana with in the Greater Indiana Metropolitan Area area.
Speaker 3: What's the capital of Indiana?
Speaker 5: I thought, I don't know.
Speaker 8: Indianapolis?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Indio.
Speaker 3: Okay, well that makes sense. Indianapolis is an Indiana. Who knew.
Speaker 6: Name for a city?
Speaker 5: Are so similar sixth graders?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 5: Yes, uh.
Speaker 8: There's a fun fact that there is a city in
Speaker 8: Illinois in southern Illinois called Metropolis, and the whole theme
Speaker 8: of the city is built around Superman.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's a.
Speaker 8: Statue and a museum and a festival hall time.
Speaker 5: I've been there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, me too. So there's there's.
Speaker 1: That y'all know about Hershey, Pennsylvania, I.
Speaker 3: Live in Pennsylvania. Let me tell you about Pennsylvania back
Speaker 3: back when, went back when there was the colonies you know,
Speaker 3: people just would name towns, and I know this about Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: They were just named towns and they would be cheeky
Speaker 3: with them. I mean, Pennsylvania used to have names of
Speaker 3: towns like Horrorsville and Sally's Crotch. You know, now.
Speaker 9: We still have intercourse. I mean, of course, intercourse will
Speaker 9: never change. Yeah, but yeah, but uh yeah, uh.
Speaker 3: All right, moving along now that anybody else, anybody else
Speaker 3: a w related potri.
Speaker 5: Us I do uh.
Speaker 7: I want to say, I have really something I haven't
Speaker 7: said in a while, is I have become really interested
Speaker 7: in Adam Cole storyline for once. I like what he's
Speaker 7: doing with Daniel Garcia. I'm really hoping he wins at Dynasty.
Speaker 7: He deserves the belt. If he can stay healthy, he
Speaker 7: will be a good champion to have on there and
Speaker 7: boost other people.
Speaker 5: It's he's kind of.
Speaker 7: Came back from from the NJF storyline and he's in
Speaker 7: my opinion, he's kind of doing better than m JF
Speaker 7: right now.
Speaker 3: Interesting. Well, of course MGF did say something about having
Speaker 3: the best natural tan in the business. I think that's
Speaker 3: said something about that last week and that everybody's jealous.
Speaker 3: During our live chat on collision shades. The vibe was
Speaker 3: saying something that I found interesting was like, and I
Speaker 3: didn't notice it, but Adam Cole is kind of filling
Speaker 3: out a little bit. He doesn't look like a little
Speaker 3: skinny pip squeak anymore. He looks good. He looks good.
Speaker 6: He didn't put on weight. He leaned out so like
Speaker 6: his arms and stuff for the same size Kelson, but
Speaker 6: he just leaned out his midsection. He looks he looks great.
Speaker 6: I think whatever he's doing, he keeps it up because
Speaker 6: he came back and he was really soft. But like
Speaker 6: you said, Kelson, he's he's leaned out and just looks fantastic.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: Well he seems to faster too.
Speaker 3: Well, he's not scared to debt to eat right anymore
Speaker 3: because he used to live with a dentist.
Speaker 10: But I mean, yeah, yeah, go ahead, okay, or does
Speaker 10: anybody else have a potpourri?
Speaker 6: I got appropriate, go for it. Not a w but
Speaker 6: it is pro wrestling related. So we saw the natural
Speaker 6: disasters are getting went into the WWE Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6: And as I mentioned on the show a couple of
Speaker 6: times in the night, I'm here in Orlando, and when
Speaker 6: I was early on in my college career at UCF.
Speaker 6: Here there was a bar and John Tenta worked the
Speaker 6: door occasionally. I don't know. I think he was friends
Speaker 6: with the guy and just hung out, and every now
Speaker 6: and then a couple of folks would get a little
Speaker 6: unruly inside. It wasn't really a bar with fights, but
Speaker 6: they had a bouncer guy, but he'd have to, you know,
Speaker 6: help some people out. This one time, though, this this
Speaker 6: dude just got an all out brawl and the bouncer
Speaker 6: guy they had there was struggling. Tento was at the
Speaker 6: door and he's like, excuse me, brothers, I'll be right back,
Speaker 6: and he got up as he's going to help this guy.
Speaker 6: We all started chanting earthquake, earthquake, earthquake, and he just
Speaker 6: was smiling and just he barely could get over there.
Speaker 6: He was laughing and broke it up and came back
Speaker 6: and sat down, and we were giving him a hard time.
Speaker 6: But it was a fun little moment. And I probably
Speaker 6: saw him there at the bar five or six times,
Speaker 6: and he was always just incredibly nice. Yes, and I
Speaker 6: was sad to see when he passed away, but I'm
Speaker 6: glad to see the natural disasters are going into the
Speaker 6: hall of fame, So he's a good dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, congratulations to them. I always like those guys too, yea.
Speaker 3: You know, they're one of the guys that you couldn't
Speaker 3: help but root for.
Speaker 6: No bad stories in real life about ten to either.
Speaker 6: All the interviews, everybody loved them, even back to when
Speaker 6: he worked in Japan doing Soon and stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, that's going to end Ignition for tonight. Tomorrow Night's
Speaker 3: going to be a very interesting show. For all the talk.
Speaker 3: We are going to do a review of AW Dynamite,
Speaker 3: especially because they're doing the owen Hart brackets, will finally
Speaker 3: be able to give our opinions on the full brackets
Speaker 3: of the owen Hart and of course some of the
Speaker 3: matches that happened on AW Dynamite. But we're also going
Speaker 3: to be doing a preview of AW Dynasty. Hopefully by
Speaker 3: tomorrow Night will know pretty much the full card for
Speaker 3: AW Dynasty, and we'll be able to give our thoughts
Speaker 3: and predictions and all the happiness that goes with that.
Speaker 3: You know, make total idiots of ourselves because we're never right.
Speaker 3: We don't even keep a scorecard anymore because it's just
Speaker 3: got too depressing to keep. We just talk and figure out.
Speaker 3: But if you're interested, join us on our discord tomorrow night.
Speaker 3: Come into the Ignition and All Lead Talk channel and
Speaker 3: either turn on your mic and join us in the
Speaker 3: voice or just stay in the chatroom and make your
Speaker 3: comments and predictions in the chat room and we'll just
Speaker 3: have a good time. We will just have a good time.
Speaker 3: We always do. You hear us tonight, We laugh, we
Speaker 3: cut up, we insult each other, but it's all with
Speaker 3: love and respect. True that. So we look forward to
Speaker 3: tomorrow night because we get to talk to each other
Speaker 3: yet again. I don't know about you guys, but Wednesday
Speaker 3: Adapter Dynamite, we did all the talk and it seems
Speaker 3: like three weeks went by until tonight. I don't know
Speaker 3: what it is, but it just seemed to drag on.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys feel the same way.
Speaker 3: It just seemed like a long break. I don't know why.
Speaker 3: But anyway, that's the show for tonight. Thanks for listening
Speaker 3: to Ignition. This is Kelson, This is Shane. Good night, everybody,
Speaker 3: take care, everybody, good night. Eddie kicks dead.
Speaker 1: He'll be back next week.