WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:02.240 And nine. 2 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:13.359 Ignition six five four three two one zero. All engine running. 3 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:25.640 It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for 4 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:30.120 Ignition with the aw fat Hub podcast team. If you 5 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:33.119 haven't already done so, please go check out Shades the 6 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:39.479 Vibes new aw fat Hub podcast Vibe Check. It's really interesting. 7 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:44.039 They're really short ten minutes long, so they're very easy 8 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:47.359 listening and he's he does a great job with it. 9 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:52.880 Please go check it out. Let's get started with Ignition. 10 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:58.159 This is Kelson and this is Shane. What's going on panel? 11 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:00.799 Nice to see everybody. So Kelson, what do you want 12 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:01.799 to talk about? First man? 13 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:05.359 Well, you know what. Shades actually brought this up on 14 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:09.480 his Vibe Check podcast. I wanted to talk about the 15 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:15.840 owen Hart Cup. On Dynamite on Wednesday, they're revealing the 16 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:21.640 owen Hart Cup brackets. Now there's eight wrestlers in each division, 17 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:24.560 meaning the women's division and the men's division. Let's talk 18 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:28.280 about the men's division. Because of the eight wrestlers, I 19 00:01:28.359 --> 00:01:32.640 believe only three have been announced and we got to 20 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:34.799 fill out this bracket. I kind of like to do 21 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:37.760 a little bit of fantasy booking here. Right now, we 22 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:42.480 only have Will Ospray, Jay White and Hangman In and Paige. 23 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:49.359 We've got five empty slots, and as Shade said, they're 24 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:53.120 kind of I don't know, it's hard to fill it 25 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:57.000 out because you've got title holders. We've already expressed I 26 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:58.959 don't know how you guys feel about it this year, 27 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:02.519 but last year were we don't like title holders being 28 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:08.520 in the owen Hart so that eliminates like Claudio Castignoli, 29 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:14.800 Pack Wheeler, you'd uh, Daniel Garcia whatever. So and then 30 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:18.319 of course swear Strickland already has a shot, so he 31 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:21.199 doesn't need to be in this really, I mean, I 32 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:24.319 guess he could. But who do you think? What do 33 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:26.879 we think? Who would you like to see Bill out 34 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:30.759 the owen Hart Cup bracket for the men? 35 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:35.319 Well, Tony Kahan in the past few years for these 36 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:38.719 types of tournaments has kind of followed a pretty generic structure, 37 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:42.039 like we're gonna need to imagine two guys that are 38 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:45.840 gonna lose, Like that's the easiest place to start. I'll 39 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:47.960 rip the band Aid off. I love him to death. 40 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:52.439 Mark Briscoe, well, I can see him in again, you know, 41 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:55.360 maybe getting to win or two. Yeah, and then Brody 42 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:59.039 King I think Brodie is amazing. Yeah, either you know. 43 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:00.960 What, as soon as you said Mark Versca, I knew 44 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:03.800 you were gonna say Brodie King. And it's unfortunate. 45 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:08.319 Yeah, it is unfortunate because we'll get to injuries later. 46 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:10.000 But his partner's injured and now he's kind of out 47 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:13.120 there by himself doing a lot of additional work. But 48 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:16.560 I really can't think of anyone else. I mean, I'd 49 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:19.199 like to see Takeshta get involved with the Owenhart Tournament. 50 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:23.520 That would be fantastic. You know, maybe we could see 51 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:27.599 like Kyle Fletcher get involved, you know, just right, maybe Kenny, well, Kenny, 52 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:32.080 they're going for Kenny so or are they're going for 53 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:35.840 Kenny or they're going for Max or Swerve. That's a 54 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:40.919 world championship, world world Yeah, world championship shot at all 55 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:42.800 in is on the line. 56 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:45.840 Okay, anybody else? Who? Who? 57 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:46.319 What else? 58 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:49.400 Let's you know, let me fall over my tongue like 59 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:52.800 Mercedes mommey on a Wednesday night and uh once she 60 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:57.439 first started anymore, But uh, who else? 61 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:04.520 I'm ahead, go ahead, Barry, go ahead. 62 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:08.120 So I'm thinking about who else to add? Shane. That 63 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:10.520 was a great perspective to think, who's who's going to 64 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:13.960 take those l's. I'm pretty certain we're going to see 65 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:17.480 Jarrett because it's the Owen Cup and he's in every 66 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:21.079 year and they need somebody to lose and you can 67 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:24.319 use him as really sympathetic up against the heel And 68 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:27.560 there you go. As far as another, I'd love to 69 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:30.439 see Takeshta, it was somebody from the Callous family, whether 70 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:32.800 it's to Kester Fletcher. I really think they got a 71 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:35.360 good thing with loading up with the three people they 72 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:40.800 have announced. I know you guys don't like champions being 73 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:43.920 in there. I think if they're tag holders, the Trios 74 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:45.879 or tag champs, that would be good. I'd love to 75 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:49.079 see MJF and somebody from the Hurt Syndicate in there 76 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:51.639 meeting in the first round. That could add some tention 77 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:54.199 to that feud. So I thought I was thinking a 78 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:56.759 little different from Shane's perspective, is like, who could be 79 00:04:56.800 --> 00:05:00.959 a first round matchup that could further storylines And that's 80 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:02.480 kind of that's why I was thinking. You know, I'd 81 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:04.480 love to see MGF and maybe Shelton Benderman in their 82 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:08.800 MGF and lashly use this tournament instead of putting in 83 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:11.680 a couple more job guys, since all In is so 84 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:15.399 far away, use this tournament to book your top star 85 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:19.000 main event guys in your your top star main events 86 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:21.480 for your next couple of dynamites and collisions. There's no 87 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:23.319 reason you got to rush this in a in a 88 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:26.319 month or six week period. Each show is going to 89 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:28.480 have a main event that's relating to the owen you 90 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:31.120 loaded up with top guys. It kind of books itself 91 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:33.240 from a programming perspective, and then you can flesh out 92 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:35.519 the rest of the show with your other storylines and angles. 93 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:39.560 I'm really glad that you brought up MJF because I 94 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:42.639 think he's kind of getting a little bit forgotten in AW. 95 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:45.560 I don't know, is anybody else going to say MJF. 96 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:50.600 I thought about go ahead, no good, No, yes, I 97 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:52.720 was gonna say MJF would be fantastic, but go ahead. 98 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:53.120 I'm okay. 99 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:58.959 So I'm thinking Buddy Matthews needs to be involved. And 100 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:01.800 I also want to see Dastin Rhodes. You know, I 101 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:04.759 don't want to see Jef Jared again. Dastin Rhodes knows 102 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:08.879 to put on a good match, clean match, and he's sympathetic, 103 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:12.040 Like Barry said, so Dastin rose Is might pick to 104 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:13.040 at least win one match. 105 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:13.439 I don't. 106 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:15.560 I don't want to bump out the first round, but 107 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:18.000 he has ties to owen two. 108 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:22.600 I was going to also say Dustin Rhodes, I would 109 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:26.000 very much so like to see him in this. I 110 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:28.759 like him in general, and I think this is a 111 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:33.759 fantastic place for him to showcase what he's got. So 112 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:35.199 that's my choice. 113 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:41.560 Interesting that it's it's it's interesting that nobody said guys 114 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:47.319 like Roderick Strong or Adam Cole. Although Adam Cole already 115 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:50.560 has a title shot at Dynasty, maybe it's not a 116 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:52.759 good idea to put him in there. But look, this 117 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:55.639 is Baward hart Cup isn't going to be rushed this year. 118 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:57.279 It doesn't look like it looks like it's going to 119 00:06:57.360 --> 00:07:00.680 take place over several weeks instead of just a month, 120 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:05.639 so at least I hope so so yeah, I mean 121 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:11.639 Roderick Strong, Adam Cole. Uh, you can even Kyle O'Reilly. 122 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:15.120 What any of those interview after Dynasty Tolson, do you 123 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:16.560 know is it double or nothing? 124 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:21.120 Honestly, I don't know double or. 125 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:23.720 Nothing's coming up? And so we got Dynasty double or 126 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:28.199 nothing Forbidden Door and then ernest for one door before 127 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:28.879 or after all in. 128 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:30.560 I believe it's after all in. 129 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:34.879 So is that I feel like we're missing one in there. 130 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:40.600 It goes it goes dynasty double or nothing then all in. 131 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:46.839 Yeah, I mean okay, okay, yeah, basically all in and 132 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:50.600 double or all in and uh forbid door kind of 133 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:53.879 flip flopped a little bit or not in their usual 134 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:55.759 time slots put it that way or a month's later. 135 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:58.480 I would set for the own to what you're saying 136 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:01.240 is not rush the Owen. The finals of the Owen 137 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:04.720 should be on the pay per view before all In, 138 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:07.399 and then that gives them a month to continue that 139 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:11.680 feud and into the UH and heading into all in. 140 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:17.839 Okay, Well, Shane, Well Shane, let's move on. What what 141 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:19.120 do you want to talk about here? 142 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:21.560 Well, I mean we could stick with the own, the 143 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:24.240 Owen Cup and the women. I mean we got Monette 144 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:29.439 Hater Stark's Athena, Rosa stat Lander. That's that's pretty heavy. 145 00:08:29.639 --> 00:08:29.839 You know. 146 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:33.000 We we're getting some exposition right now outside of the 147 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:35.240 Owen Cup with Money and Athena, which I'd kind of 148 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:36.759 like to see separate from the Owen Cup. 149 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:37.480 That's my opinion. 150 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:39.600 I think this is going to be a fantastic feud, 151 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:41.559 a great way to get these belts off of Mercedes. 152 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:45.120 So she could kind of, you know, redirect towards the 153 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:48.679 the bigger picture, the women's world scene, which we know 154 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:51.840 that's where she's headed. But you know, the own Cup 155 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:53.840 for with the women look looks pretty stacked right now. 156 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:59.679 I mean, yeah, there's six women in the cup already, 157 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:03.200 there's only two slots left. 158 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:06.759 Well, we'll probably see Willow and a wild card. And 159 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:09.440 I'm going to assume that a wild card would either 160 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:11.639 be you know, someone from the roh or the New 161 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:14.879 Japan side, or someone coming back from injury, could be 162 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:17.399 Britt Baker. You know, she's in under contract with Tony 163 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:20.440 Kah for another couple of years in spite of you know, 164 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:25.200 whatever indiscretions they might be having. You know, Barry shirt, 165 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:27.000 it's a work, It's always a work. 166 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:27.320 Yeah. 167 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:32.240 So yeah, well, well, well well placed advertising today, thank you. 168 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:37.120 So I don't know, I think this women's the women's 169 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:39.399 own couple looks fantastic right now. Then it's hard to 170 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:39.879 call the ball. 171 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:44.159 Oh Barry, let me ask you, what about the ragining 172 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:48.799 owen Hart Cup winner. Do you think she enters it, 173 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:51.919 and that, of course is Mariah May. 174 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:56.440 You know, does that we want to hold off on 175 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:00.080 that segue into the next segment, though, I'd love to 176 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:01.080 see Mariah in there. 177 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:01.639 Uh. 178 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:04.559 And if we're going to talk about previous champs, isn't 179 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:05.679 Willow a previous champ? 180 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:09.799 To Willow is a previous champ. Baker is a previous champ. 181 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:10.759 Uh? 182 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:13.200 I think that's it, right. 183 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:22.000 I think, yeah, Britt Britt, Britt and Adam Cole won 184 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:27.039 the first one, and then it was uh uh Ricky 185 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:31.879 Starks and Willow and then it was Mariah May and 186 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:34.840 uh who won it last year? 187 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:47.279 I thought, who did win the men's last year? Yeah, 188 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:50.320 So if we're looking for a different a couple extra entrants, 189 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:52.879 I'd like to see Julia Harden there. They don't have 190 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:57.279 her in a program developed with anybody right now, So 191 00:10:57.360 --> 00:10:59.879 get her in there. And you know, if we're gonna 192 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:01.799 grab somebody out of left field something, we have an 193 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:04.120 answer tam With the men's I'd like them to pull 194 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:06.279 somebody from another promotion. If we're talking about somebody who'd 195 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:09.200 taken out bringing in New Japan or CMML personality. So 196 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:13.200 with the men and then with the women Stardom CMML 197 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.039 as well works. Uh, you know, bring in some talent 198 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:18.240 from from overseas to take that out a little showcase 199 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:18.879 in the first round. 200 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:24.120 Yeah right, yeah, I mean it won't be Mina shira 201 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:28.600 Kala because she's a little busy right now. She's I 202 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:33.559 believe the first week of this month is when she 203 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:38.480 wraps up with with Stardom, but she's already booked for 204 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:43.200 a couple of dates. She's taking on azm or Azumi. Uh, 205 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:50.240 pretty soon. There's I mean four rounds round. I can 206 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:53.559 stretch it out. I just don't see Mina Shirakala coming 207 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:57.759 in and taking a spot in this. I really don't 208 00:11:58.320 --> 00:11:59.320 the joker position. 209 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:01.639 And then and that's the big reveal in six weeks 210 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:03.399 or whatever when they do the next first round match 211 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:03.840 for the women. 212 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:05.799 Yeah, if they do that, it's going to be down 213 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:09.840 the road. It really will be. Anybody else have any 214 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:12.759 ideas about the two women that should fill in the 215 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:14.279 spot that's open. 216 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:21.279 I would like to see Palazzo in it. I'd like 217 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:24.279 to see her do some more. I think she's really good. 218 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:28.519 And yeah, I'd like to see her out there some more. 219 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:34.360 Yeah, I mean, look, when you're talking about aw's women's division, 220 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:38.399 and we're going to get into like an injury report 221 00:12:38.600 --> 00:12:41.519 in just a little bit. But with the women that 222 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:47.159 are there right now, in the last three AW shows 223 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:51.000 that aired on the regular timeslot, not counting the Collisions, 224 00:12:51.559 --> 00:12:55.159 the Slam Dug Collisions that had that aired at eleven o'clock, 225 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:58.679 but the last two Dynamites and the last Collision were 226 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:04.120 all main evented by women. Megan Baine, as a matter 227 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:09.360 of fact, made event at the last two Dynamites that 228 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:12.480 has not been done by a woman since twenty twenty 229 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:18.399 three when a Carusheeda took on and beat Tony Storm 230 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:21.799 in the main event of Dynamite. I believe it was 231 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:26.120 in August of twenty twenty three, and then the next 232 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:30.720 week she took on Anna j in the main event 233 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:34.879 of Dynamite. So the Karlsheda and Megan Bain, there's some 234 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:36.080 history for you there. 235 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:42.919 Well, I mean, if we're sticking with the men, I 236 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:45.000 know you had something to say about this, but like, 237 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:47.679 the women are getting a lot of airtime, especially in 238 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:53.840 the main event arena and the AW standard shows. 239 00:13:54.679 --> 00:14:00.279 Yeah. Absolutely. Do you think does anybody think that this 240 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:05.080 point blank that revolution there has been an argument that 241 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:09.360 Tony Storm and Mariah May should have or could have 242 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:14.279 made event to that, do you think that Dynasty or 243 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:18.799 even Double or nothing has a possibility of a women's 244 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:20.960 made event or even all in. 245 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:25.480 Love to see it. I would love to see it, honestly. 246 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:29.879 And it's great that they're getting, you know, the headline 247 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:33.080 on the standard shows. It's great they're getting more representation. 248 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:37.519 But I want, I do believe that they deserve It's 249 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:40.120 not a deserving thing. They're entitled to a main event 250 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:42.879 for pay per view. Tony Storm's feud with Mariah May 251 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:45.440 was probably the most interesting thing going on in professional 252 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:48.320 wrestling for five and a half months. That could have 253 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:52.159 easily headlined that show and kept asses in seats the 254 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:52.960 entire time. 255 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:58.919 Jane, that was sixteen months that story went on. Sure, 256 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:01.320 there was a long break with Tony Storm, wasn't there, 257 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:05.759 but that was part of the story as well. But 258 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:09.759 it was sixteen months from beginning to end. 259 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:14.559 I mean every single turn, every single you know, like 260 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:18.080 every single surprise it kept. It was very fresh, and 261 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.120 yeah that if they're going to keep the women's division 262 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:26.600 like pumping like this, I could see it happening. It 263 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:29.200 should happen. I don't think it's happening soon, though. 264 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:36.080 Anybody else think that the women are going to makee 265 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:42.440 event the pay per view anytime soon? I do. Shane doesn't, 266 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:44.639 even though he would like to see it, he doesn't 267 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:46.840 think it's going to happen. I do think it's going 268 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:47.320 to happen. 269 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.159 I think they can. I don't think there's anything right 270 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:55.840 now that justifies it. The chance was the Mariah made 271 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:58.960 Tony Storm blow off like that was that was the 272 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:01.879 time to do it, and it just didn't line up 273 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:03.879 with what they were looking to do. But if they 274 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:05.720 were going to main event, that was it. And it's 275 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:09.600 not the women's fault. They're just not given as much 276 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:13.799 stuff to work with. So there's only two, maybe three 277 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:16.039 storylines at a time as opposed to six or seven 278 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:21.360 with the men now right now, if you're looking at them, 279 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.000 you have to start a build for that to justify 280 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:26.879 it in a couple months. I mean, they're capable of it. 281 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:29.399 I don't think anybody can sit here objectively and argue 282 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:34.440 that Tony Storm versus Mariah may wouldn't have been a 283 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:37.200 draw for a main event like it was, Like Shane said, 284 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:41.360 and Kelson mentioned, some of the best content in storylines, 285 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:44.720 in acting really for professional wrestling in a long long time, 286 00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:46.799 like nothing had been done like that. I think we 287 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:49.600 saw a complete character transformation of character work on parallel 288 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:54.679 so far, but that's an outlier, like that's exceptional. There 289 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:57.799 isn't enough consistency yet to give them that. And I 290 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.679 think the last couple of weeks I've been trial runs, 291 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:03.320 what sort of draw are the ladies. It's not been 292 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:07.039 like Rando Women main eventing. It's been the Top women 293 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:09.880 main eventing. The biggest story they got going is the 294 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:13.799 Tony Storm rhyme for making bain things. So like they're 295 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:16.880 keeping the main people in there and see how they draw, 296 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:20.000 and it's been mixed. Some's been good, some's been bad, 297 00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:22.480 but you're not going to know those until you try. 298 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:24.400 And the other thing to keep in mind is their 299 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:27.720 main eventing. Are they giving them enough juice to pulling 300 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:29.759 ratings for that or is it just seemed thrown together? 301 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:32.200 So I think we're going to see them experiment a 302 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:34.960 little more and if they get something going that's really hot, yeah, 303 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:37.799 no reason they can't Maine event just like any other storyline. 304 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:40.599 So I can see the only one I could see 305 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:43.079 main eventing would be double or nothing, and that would 306 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:45.880 be if they could figure out how to do Mercedes 307 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:49.920 versus Athena. Either all want it to be great bad. I 308 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:51.720 don't see all In doing it, but double or nothing. 309 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:55.519 I can see that storyline happening, and if they can 310 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:56.559 juice it up well enough. 311 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:03.799 Well, okay, you know that Athena is from yeah, Texas, Texas, 312 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:06.559 so yeah, I mean right right there in the backyard, 313 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:08.599 So that would make a little bit of sense happened 314 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:11.440 Athena e mer Sades at all In in Texas. I 315 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:13.200 just think that's a little bit too long of a 316 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:16.480 build for for that, Matt, But I don't. 317 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:20.359 Know, I mean, especially especially lately with how they kind 318 00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:22.880 of been dragging out some of the other storylines that 319 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.880 are in play. Yeah, I think all like waiting for 320 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:27.240 Texas is a very long time. 321 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:33.200 I don't know they've done it before, but you know 322 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:40.240 they're trying to hype up Ocado versus Kenny for all Into, So. 323 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:45.680 I mean, you never know what could happen, but I 324 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:46.279 could see it. 325 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:50.359 I think they should hold off to Allan. I think 326 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:52.440 they should slow roll this. I think they should slow 327 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:54.960 roll this and they should just tease it, have them 328 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:58.680 have wars of words or war words as they dance 329 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:02.279 around the edges, like I'm saying, and then have them 330 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:05.240 in something at a pay per view. But slow roll 331 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:07.839 this because somebody else at the moment is all in. 332 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:10.559 If you were going to establish somebody as a new star, 333 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:13.319 there's two ways to do it. They're going to win 334 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:15.680 the big title or they're going to win the TVs title. 335 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:20.720 A win over Mercedes Monnett arguably can establish somebody stronger 336 00:19:20.759 --> 00:19:22.920 than a win over Tarney Storm for the belt right now, 337 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:27.319 that's debatable. But you've got two very very strong champions 338 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:29.519 right now in the women's division, and these are opportunities 339 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:32.079 to make a new star. And if you're going to 340 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:34.519 do that, you do that at the biggest event possible. 341 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:37.640 And that's all in. So if she's going to be 342 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:41.839 the go forward in the TBS division Athena, you do 343 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:43.960 it on the biggest stage possible in her hometown to 344 00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:46.000 make that as big a deal as possible. Otherwise it's 345 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:48.200 a wasted opportunity in my view. I'm with MK on that. 346 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:51.880 Well, here's another thing that you'd need to consider as well. 347 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:56.119 I brought this up earlier Azuomi and Mina Shirikala at 348 00:19:56.160 --> 00:20:01.559 Resurgence later this month. I believe are sling to become 349 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:07.599 the number one contender for the n jp W Strong 350 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:11.039 Women's title. Uh. The winner of that that could be 351 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:13.559 a match for Mercedes at double or nothing right. 352 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:15.759 There, I can see. 353 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:19.200 Okay, So here's my thing. I think Athena is somehow 354 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:23.359 going to lose her title, and Mercedes will lose one 355 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:27.519 of her titles, thus fueling the fire. They'll cause each 356 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:29.799 other to loon or something, and then they'll face it 357 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:30.079 all in. 358 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:31.319 That's what I would like to see. 359 00:20:31.920 --> 00:20:33.559 I don't think that Athena is going to lose that 360 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:36.319 I ever lose that title. They've made too much of 361 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:38.839 a big deal out of the forever champion. I think 362 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:41.720 that they're going to have her vacated like somebod with 363 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:45.000 Joe vacated his and go from there. 364 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:46.599 See I hate that myself. 365 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:49.519 But what's the other She's got two belts? Though, what's 366 00:20:49.559 --> 00:20:51.039 the other promotion she has it from? 367 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:52.680 Who? 368 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:55.440 Two belts? The spinner back? 369 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:56.039 And then? 370 00:20:56.319 --> 00:20:59.279 Or is it just okay? I thought she had an 371 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:02.000 Indie belt, So in my bed, no you can. 372 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:07.039 We're gonna I'm gonna check that. I did want to 373 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:09.319 make a point, Barry kind of piggyback off of what 374 00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:11.200 you said. As much as I hate the idea of 375 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:14.640 them dragging it to Texas, it is an opportunity for 376 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:17.880 them to do some fun stuff behind the scenes, Like, 377 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:19.880 you know, we could put the minions to work, have 378 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:22.519 some story that way, and we're getting you know, people 379 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:25.880 getting are getting attacked behind state, behind the scenes. You know, 380 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:29.039 there's they could drag it out and have it be 381 00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:31.960 fun and kind of make sure the women. 382 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:37.000 And Shane don't forget that. On Collision, we saw the 383 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:42.359 seed planted of the Renegades joining with Mercedes bone H. 384 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:47.480 Robin Renegade of course was there. Charlotte Renegade has been injured, 385 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:51.039 but it looks like she may be able to come 386 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:56.200 back soon. And she's been cutting hair. She's been she's 387 00:21:56.519 --> 00:21:59.119 that's what she's been doing in her time off. And 388 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:04.559 but she did make a comment about Robin at Collision 389 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:09.920 and how psych she was, So that was interesting. Speaking 390 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:15.039 of injured wrestlers, Shane like Charlotte Renegade. 391 00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:19.240 Yeah, so I'm gonna run down who we got out right, 392 00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:22.519 like the official aw, this is what they've given to 393 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:27.319 the media their list of talent that's out and I'll 394 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:29.200 try to be as fast as possible. So we have 395 00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:32.759 Red Velvet with an unknown injury back in January. Buddy 396 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:35.519 Matthews has an ankle injury that he sustained Grand Slam. 397 00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:39.559 Juice Robinson the broken fabia on collision. Back in November, 398 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:44.000 kill Switch had like serious long term pneumonia. They thought 399 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:47.240 he was going to die. He's just kinda he says 400 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:50.920 he's ready. No, there's no story, but there are conflicting 401 00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:54.599