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The Supreme Court 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,039 has sent down a number of rulings today, the biggest 12 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:37,439 one that would essentially get rid of a lot of 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:43,079 these nationwide injunctions. The President and his Attorney General Pambondi 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,320 are doing a live press conference right now. It's been 15 00:00:46,359 --> 00:00:48,600 going on about fifteen or twenty minutes, so I think 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,280 they're probably taking questions that. 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: Are not related to the Supreme Court ruling. But let's 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,840 Eves drop in and see what they're talking about. 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: Parents, and I'm not surprised by it, but I am 20 00:00:58,679 --> 00:00:59,960 surprised that it went this far. 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,439 Speaker 4: It took us to bring life back to normal. So wonderful. 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,159 Speaker 3: It's parental and I kept saying, we will give you back. 23 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,079 Speaker 4: Your parental rights. 24 00:01:09,359 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 3: They were taken away and this is a tremendous victory 25 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:12,400 for parents. 26 00:01:12,439 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another one of the rules. 27 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 5: Back at the last week, it's been extraordinary in terms 28 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,920 of the action the Middle East. 29 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 4: Who were at the Hey awake, hasn't it. 30 00:01:21,599 --> 00:01:25,159 Speaker 5: I'm wondering now if you believe in I'm wondering now, sir, 31 00:01:25,239 --> 00:01:28,760 if you believe that Iran has given up its long 32 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,439 history of ambitions with nuclear weapons, or what you would 33 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,280 like to see from them to prove that they do, 34 00:01:35,519 --> 00:01:38,200 and what type of meetings is your administration looking for 35 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,840 next week with Iran? 36 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,519 Speaker 3: So it Ron wants to meet. As you know, the 37 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:46,120 air sites were obliterated, the very evil nuclear sites they were. 38 00:01:46,239 --> 00:01:48,319 Now has been proven. We had some fake news for 39 00:01:48,359 --> 00:01:51,640 a little while. The same people that covered the Hunter 40 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,799 Biden laptop was from Russia, the same people that did 41 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,879 three or four other Russia Russia Russia hoax. But no, no, wait, wait, 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,560 just listen, they came up with something that delayed the credit. 43 00:02:04,599 --> 00:02:06,799 That are great pilots and these great America I mean 44 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,520 they want talent. That was and they hit it right 45 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:12,599 down in the spot fifty two thousand feet. Think of 46 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,719 this dark no moon, you couldn't see a thing, and 47 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,719 they hit the refrigerator doors. They say, that's the size 48 00:02:18,759 --> 00:02:24,919 of a target and overwhelmingly, and it's amazing what was done. 49 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:26,960 We're the only ones that could have done it, and 50 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,639 we took out the two of the other sites. 51 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 4: Also in addition to that, we finished them off. That 52 00:02:32,719 --> 00:02:34,400 was very evil intention. 53 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 3: I believe that, And again time will tell, but I 54 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,479 don't believe that they're going to go back into nuclear 55 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,560 anytime soon. They spent over a trillion dollars on nuclear 56 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,800 and they never got it together and nothing was moved 57 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,319 from the site. By the way, to do that is 58 00:02:50,439 --> 00:02:54,199 very dangerous. It's very very heavy material. Those cars were 59 00:02:54,199 --> 00:02:56,919 most likely the cars of masons because they were pouring 60 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,400 concrete at the top at the hatch, you know, the 61 00:03:00,439 --> 00:03:03,800 hats going into the nuclear side. They wanted to reinforce 62 00:03:03,879 --> 00:03:07,479 it and they had some masons there pouring concrete. By 63 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:10,879 the way, that concrete was obliterated. It hit exactly at 64 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:13,120 the concrete it was. I don't think it had a 65 00:03:13,199 --> 00:03:17,319 chance to dry. But everything is down there, it's under 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,520 millions of tons of rock. 67 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 4: English. 68 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,719 Speaker 6: Yes, your administration has said that El Salvador is a 69 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,560 of the state as countries and a headspare. 70 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 4: So why haven't you get consult temporary protective status to 71 00:03:32,039 --> 00:03:33,520 that country? Was it part of the deal. 72 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,759 Speaker 3: We've had a great relationship with El Salvador. They have 73 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:42,439 a fantastic leader. They built a massive prison system and 74 00:03:42,759 --> 00:03:45,199 I don't know exactly why, but it's a hell of 75 00:03:45,199 --> 00:03:47,960 a system. And we bring people there and when they 76 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,759 go there, they don't get out, and frankly, when they 77 00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:53,000 hear they have to go there, they become very nice people. 78 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,879 Speaker 4: They become very nice people. 79 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,439 Speaker 3: It's a tough system, but it's a brilliant system, and 80 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,960 it's a system done by a very. 81 00:04:00,199 --> 00:04:00,879 Speaker 4: Very good leader. 82 00:04:01,199 --> 00:04:05,599 Speaker 3: We'll talk about El Salvad a lot of respect. 83 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, please you, thank you. 84 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,159 Speaker 7: A question for you, and that a question for the 85 00:04:08,159 --> 00:04:11,960 Attorney General as you go into negotiations and talks what 86 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,639 they're on. Are you demanding not only that there would 87 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,480 be no Uranian production inside of Iran, but also that 88 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:22,439 Iran would turn over all existing stockpiles of Iranian. 89 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: Well, you know, we're a little early for that, but 90 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:24,839 something like that. 91 00:04:24,959 --> 00:04:26,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll do something like that. 92 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: Let me say that I've been saying for twenty five years, 93 00:04:30,759 --> 00:04:34,480 even as a civilian. You cannot let them have a 94 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,680 nuclear weapon, and that's what happened. It's been obliterated. It 95 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,920 would be years before they could ever get going. And 96 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,319 I really think it's probably the last thing they have 97 00:04:42,399 --> 00:04:44,879 to recover from a hell of a tough war. 98 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,399 Speaker 7: Would you also be demanding that the IAEA have full 99 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,399 rights to inspect in Iran. 100 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 3: Or somebody, yeah, or somebody that we respect and then 101 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,000 including ourselves. 102 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,319 Speaker 7: And a question for both the President and the Attorney 103 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,480 General under birthright citizenship, if this is implemented, who would 104 00:05:00,519 --> 00:05:04,240 be tasked with actually vetting citizenship And would this be 105 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,560 a situation where you have nurses and doctors checking for 106 00:05:07,639 --> 00:05:09,079 citizenship of parents or. 107 00:05:10,399 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 4: This is all pending litigation. 108 00:05:11,879 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 8: It's going to be decided in October by the Supreme Court, 109 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,000 and we'll discuss that after the litigation. 110 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 7: If you have an undocumented baby, would that baby then 111 00:05:21,319 --> 00:05:22,600 be an enforcement priority? 112 00:05:23,879 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 8: The violent criminals in our country are the priority. Now, 113 00:05:28,439 --> 00:05:32,560 let me put it in perspective. Today marked the two thousand, 114 00:05:32,879 --> 00:05:37,639 seven hundred and eleventh arrest in our country of TDA members. 115 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 4: Just TDA. 116 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 8: Everyone in this room agrees they are one of the 117 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:46,000 most violent criminal organizations in the world and the Biden 118 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,759 administration let them walk into our country, walk into our country. 119 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,560 For the last four years, two thousand, seven hundred and 120 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,000 eleven of them today have been arrested in our country. 121 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,199 That is the priority of Donald Trump, that is the 122 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,360 priority of this country, of homeland security, of all of 123 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,759 our lawyers of FBI. 124 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,879 Speaker 4: That's the priority that will. 125 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:09,399 Speaker 8: Be discussed in October when the Supreme Court hopefully rules 126 00:06:09,399 --> 00:06:10,040 in our favor. 127 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 4: And we're very confident of that. 128 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 8: But you should all feel safer now the President Trump 129 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:18,120 can deport all of these all of these gangs, and 130 00:06:18,199 --> 00:06:21,759 not one district court judge can think they're an emperor 131 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:25,240 over this administration and his executive powers. And why the 132 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,160 people of the United States elected him. 133 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:32,879 Speaker 3: I just might add one thing, and you know, they 134 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,160 used birthright citizenship some of the worst people, some of 135 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,279 the cartels to get. 136 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,199 Speaker 4: People into our country. 137 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,319 Speaker 3: Just so you know, and again I say, if you 138 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,120 look at the end of the Civil War the eighteen hundreds, 139 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,439 it was a very turbulent time. You take the end day, 140 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,439 was it eighteen sixty nine or whatever, but you. 141 00:06:49,439 --> 00:06:50,399 Speaker 4: Take that exact day. 142 00:06:50,439 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: That's why the case was filed and the case ended 143 00:06:53,399 --> 00:06:57,720 shortly thereafter. This has to do with the babies of slaves, 144 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,720 very very obviously. 145 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,439 Speaker 4: And I think we're going to win. People didn't. 146 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,879 Speaker 3: I don't think they went about discussing it right. I 147 00:07:03,879 --> 00:07:06,879 came along and we looked and we said, wait a minute, 148 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,120 this is wrong. We've been looking at birthright citizenship wrong 149 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,879 for years, but they've used it. 150 00:07:11,959 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: The cartels have used birthright. 151 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,319 Speaker 3: Citizenship to get very bad people in. And what Pam's doing, 152 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,800 and what Todd and everybody else, what they're doing at 153 00:07:18,839 --> 00:07:23,720 DOJ and all over FBI, ice Border Patrol. These are 154 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,680 incredible people. They're trying to keep our country safe and 155 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,319 they don't want to have people come in. This is 156 00:07:29,399 --> 00:07:33,800 just another way that they get illegal immigrants into our country, 157 00:07:33,839 --> 00:07:36,319 and in some cases, very very bad ones. 158 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 6: Go ahead, you must your president under taxable if I 159 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,600 could for a moment. Senators are racing to rewrite parts 160 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,759 of it right now after the Senate Parliamentarian ruled that 161 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,079 sections of it were outside of the process that they're 162 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,680 using to get this through. Do you think that senators 163 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:55,439 should respect the decisions of the parliamentarian And what have 164 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,560 you personally done in the last forty eight hours to 165 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,120 try and get Republicans who against the bill to a guess. 166 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,639 Speaker 3: Well, look, it's a great bill. It's a massive tax cut. 167 00:08:06,199 --> 00:08:09,360 If it's not approved, your taxes will go by sixty 168 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:11,680 eight percent. Think of that, sixty eight a record, the 169 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:15,000 highest in the history. The Democrats won't approve it only 170 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,360 because politically it's so good for the Republicans. The Democrats 171 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,879 aren't approving it, but think of what they're not approving. 172 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,879 They're not approving border security. We've done a great job 173 00:08:23,959 --> 00:08:26,199 at the border, but we have to add some war. 174 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:29,519 We have to do various things. We have no money 175 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,319 for that. We have no money for the border. We 176 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,080 have no money for so many things. But if the Democrats, 177 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:37,440 it'll be interesting to see if we get any Democrat well, 178 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,720 as we should. If I were a Democrat, I would 179 00:08:39,759 --> 00:08:42,120 absolutely maybe Fetterman, because he seems to be the most 180 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,440 sensible one lately. If I were a Democrat, I would 181 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:47,720 vote for this bill all day long, because it's tax 182 00:08:47,799 --> 00:08:50,879 cuts and so many other things that are common sense. 183 00:08:50,919 --> 00:08:56,039 They're basic things. I think they're doing fine. The Parliamentarian 184 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,679 has been a little difficult, and I would say that 185 00:08:59,759 --> 00:09:02,639 I disagree with the Parliamentarian on some things and on 186 00:09:02,879 --> 00:09:05,519 other ways, she's been fine. But we'll have to say 187 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,320 it's a big issue. 188 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 4: I will tell you this. 189 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 3: If that bill doesn't pass, the country will get a 190 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,720 sixty eight sixty eight percent tax increase. 191 00:09:14,759 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 4: So think of this. 192 00:09:15,879 --> 00:09:18,919 Speaker 3: You're a Democrat and you vote against it, that means 193 00:09:18,919 --> 00:09:22,320 you're voting in favor because essentially you're voting in favor 194 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:25,519 the largest tax hike in the history of our country, 195 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,879 and you can't do that. In addition, we're cutting costs 196 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:31,320 by one point seven trillion dollars and. 197 00:09:31,279 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 4: It won't affect anybody. It's just fraud, waste, and abuse. 198 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,039 Speaker 2: All right, let's go ahead and bail out right now, 199 00:09:37,039 --> 00:09:38,720 because we've going to got to go over and get 200 00:09:38,759 --> 00:09:40,759 a check on the traffic. But that's Donald Trump and 201 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,159 Pam Bondy fired up. After the US Supreme Court issued 202 00:09:46,639 --> 00:09:48,840 a couple of rulings have come down, the biggest ones 203 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:52,080 on the birthright Citizenship Executive Order. But it's not actually 204 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,559 about the birthright citizenship issue yet. And then there's also 205 00:09:56,639 --> 00:09:59,559 the religious liberty case. We'll get into it. You know, 206 00:09:59,639 --> 00:10:02,200 story are powerful. 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The President 225 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:08,240 and the US Attorney General, Pam Bondi are taking questions 226 00:11:08,279 --> 00:11:12,639 after a couple of huge Supreme Court rulings have come down, 227 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:14,519 so let's go ahead and pick it back up. 228 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,919 Speaker 9: They're still going can name them, and they're so used 229 00:11:17,919 --> 00:11:22,360 to just you know, getting taking it billions and billions 230 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,440 of Look, we had a trade deficit of more than 231 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,360 a trillion dollars. 232 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:31,159 Speaker 3: Think of a trade deficit. That's because nobody cared. Nobody 233 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,519 we cared a lot. When you know, I took in 234 00:11:34,159 --> 00:11:36,440 hundreds of billions of dollars in tariff. We had the 235 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,759 greatest economy in history up until now. 236 00:11:38,799 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: I think we're going to blow it away. But during 237 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:42,519 my time then. 238 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,279 Speaker 3: Especially prior to COVID, we're the greatest economy in the 239 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:47,320 history of our country. I think we're going to blow 240 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,279 it away now based on the kind of numbers that 241 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,240 we're saying. But some countries are very angry because they've 242 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,200 been ripping us off for years. They've been making billions 243 00:11:56,279 --> 00:11:59,000 and billions of dollars. There was nobody to negotiate where 244 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,000 they could do whatever they want. 245 00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 4: They charge just terriffs. By the way, he's. 246 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: Talking to terriffs. Sorry. 247 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: So obviously, when you got all the press in there, 248 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,720 they're not going to limit their questions to just the 249 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:12,159 topics of the day. They're going to hit them with 250 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,720 all these other questions. And as the President joked, it's 251 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,159 it's been a busy week. 252 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,639 Speaker 1: There's man, it. 253 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,919 Speaker 2: Feels like a month all in one week. So what 254 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,320 is this case about? What is this ruling about? It 255 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,799 has to do with the birthright Citizenship executive Order and 256 00:12:28,919 --> 00:12:30,279 the injunction that was. 257 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,639 Speaker 1: Issued by a district court. 258 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,639 Speaker 2: And because this ruling came down whilst I was on 259 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:40,879 my way into work, I do not have my all 260 00:12:40,919 --> 00:12:43,639 of my show prep that I have retained on this case. 261 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,679 That's totally my fault. Because we knew the rulings were 262 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,279 coming down. I should have brought it. But so all 263 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,519 of this is going to be going from memory. But 264 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,000 as I recall, there were two tracks here, there were 265 00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:58,480 parallel tracks going on. You had the birthright citizenship underlying issue, 266 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,039 but then you also have this other issue of the 267 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:07,200 nationwide injunctions that these district court judges have been using 268 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:12,080 and these left wing organizations who have been filing the 269 00:13:12,159 --> 00:13:16,679 lawsuits in a very limited set of district courts in 270 00:13:16,919 --> 00:13:22,440 order to get these injunctions to stop the presidential orders 271 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:28,639 from being enacted. And as Pambondi noted that there are 272 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:33,639 ninety four districts in America, ninety four district courts in America. Okay, 273 00:13:34,279 --> 00:13:41,200 And right now they have forty nationwide injunctions against the 274 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:46,279 Trump administration. Forty okay, and thirty five of those forty 275 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,399 come from five district judges or districts. There are a 276 00:13:51,399 --> 00:13:54,320 couple different judges in each district, but they're all originating 277 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:59,320 in five districts, five out of the ninety four districts. 278 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,559 So this is judge shopping or ven you shopping. That's 279 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,600 what's going on here. It's been going on, you know, 280 00:14:06,759 --> 00:14:10,559 all throughout the Trump administration, first and second, it has 281 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,399 really ramped up in the second and so the so 282 00:14:14,519 --> 00:14:18,399 finally the US Supreme Court has cracked the whip on 283 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,559 their lower courts, which is what they should have done 284 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,159 a long time ago, because what the district courts are 285 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:29,559 doing at the behest of these plaintiffs that are ideologically 286 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:35,080 aligned is making end runs around what's you know, called 287 00:14:35,159 --> 00:14:38,679 the class action certification process. Like if you and a 288 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,200 whole bunch of other people want to sue and you 289 00:14:42,279 --> 00:14:45,399 all have sort of the same argument, you can become 290 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,639 a class action. We hear about these all the time, 291 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,000 right all of the commercials. If you were injured by 292 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:52,200 this thing or this company, you can be part of 293 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,159 this class action lawsuit. But there's there are a lot 294 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,480 of criteria to get classified certified as a class in 295 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,960 the trial in the court, and that's difficult. And so 296 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:10,240 what these plaintiffs, they're lawyers, and these these judges have 297 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,600 been conspiring to do is to do an end run 298 00:15:13,639 --> 00:15:17,919 around that class action certification process because it's difficult, and 299 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,200 instead just get one lawyer with a wardrobe change and 300 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,279 a black robe to say, I'm going to stop this 301 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,200 whole thing from proceeding. And the US Supreme Court said no, 302 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:35,519 and Amy Cony Barrett, she lit into kb J Keatanji 303 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:39,639 Brown Jackson, I mean lit into her in a way 304 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,919 you do not see judges go after each other, really 305 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,120 in the Supreme Court especially. I'll get to that, but 306 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,120 let me get over here to Ray first. Hello, Ray, 307 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,200 welcome to the program. 308 00:15:50,399 --> 00:15:51,639 Speaker 1: Helloa, Hey, what's up. 309 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:58,559 Speaker 10: I just was anticipating this ruling that was supposed to 310 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,360 come down in June. I heard about three or four 311 00:16:01,399 --> 00:16:05,039 months ago. I might have talked to you about about 312 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,480 turning their plane around. Is this the one that we 313 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,879 were thinking that was going to stop all that turning 314 00:16:11,919 --> 00:16:14,279 the plane around and that kind of mumbo jumbo. 315 00:16:14,519 --> 00:16:16,639 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, because that would. 316 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,279 Speaker 10: Really it will get a complete victory on this or 317 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,639 is something else going to be decided by the scotis. 318 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: Well, there's I'm seeing some of the legal analysts who 319 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,519 are talking about a footnote and I have not read 320 00:16:28,519 --> 00:16:31,279 this opinion because it just came down, But there's a 321 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:36,279 footnote in the opinion that talks about some other mechanism 322 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,639 that might apply if they want to try to go 323 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,840 another route. There is sort of this other route. I 324 00:16:42,879 --> 00:16:44,799 don't know what that route is. I don't know how 325 00:16:44,799 --> 00:16:48,759 that would work, and so I don't know. I don't 326 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:51,320 know if there is a loophole that now still exists. 327 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,519 They're very very well might be. However, the question of 328 00:16:55,559 --> 00:17:00,480 whether a district court can issue these nationwide and functions 329 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,119 that block policies across the entire country that has been 330 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,680 they put the kibosh on that. So that is a 331 00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:10,119 victory for yeah, for a rule of law. It's a 332 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,039 victory for the judiciary. It's a victory for the executive 333 00:17:13,039 --> 00:17:16,559 branch and for America because you know, you cannot have 334 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:21,000 one person going in and claiming to basically represent all 335 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,240 of America to get one judge to agree with them 336 00:17:24,279 --> 00:17:26,839 to shut down a policy that, by the way, was 337 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,640 enacted under the law and was enacted under the Article 338 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:36,000 two powers of the executive branch, and or yeah, Article 339 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,480 two powers, and and that this that was elected to 340 00:17:39,519 --> 00:17:42,160 do that everything right, This person was elected to do 341 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,480 these things. And then you've got judges saying you can't 342 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:44,839 do them. 343 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:50,279 Speaker 10: Yes, so quickly, the district judge could still issue an 344 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:54,720 injunction just for the locality for this right being took 345 00:17:54,759 --> 00:17:56,880 place or not correct. 346 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: That's the understanding. 347 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: That's my understanding as well, is that that has been 348 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,640 And at the core of this is that you've got 349 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,440 the district court judges that are ruling for the entire nation, 350 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,039 when in fact the plaintiffs that come before them are 351 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,640 only locally based, and so they have gone beyond their 352 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:20,160 authority by doing nationwide injunctions. So yeah, man, yeah, absolutely right. 353 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate these good questions. 354 00:18:22,039 --> 00:18:25,279 Speaker 2: So the Trump administration, here's sort of the background on it, 355 00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:26,759 and I'm going to go into more of the details, 356 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:30,519 but this is from the Daily Caller News Foundation. The 357 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:36,160 Trump administration appealed three different lower court rulings that prevented 358 00:18:36,759 --> 00:18:40,680 the executive order that ended birthright citizenship for children of 359 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,440 illegal aliens or migrants on temporary visas from taking effect right. 360 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,480 So they put these injunctions in place, saying your executive 361 00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:52,640 order cannot take effect. Rather than rule on the constitutionality 362 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:58,079 of birthright citizenship, the Trump administration asked the Supreme Court 363 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,720 to consider limiting the scope of nationwide injunctions that block 364 00:19:03,799 --> 00:19:07,599 policies across the entire country. Right, So the Court in 365 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,640 this ruling did not address the birthright citizenship issue. There 366 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,799 was another case. I think that's going to be rolled 367 00:19:13,839 --> 00:19:16,759 on in October. I want to say they're expecting that 368 00:19:16,839 --> 00:19:21,799 to come down. So that's a separate case. The Supreme 369 00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:25,720 Court heard oral arguments during a May session, which apparently 370 00:19:25,839 --> 00:19:29,200 is unusual to have one in May, and the Solicitor 371 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,960 General highlighted the dozens of injunctions that lower court judges 372 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,559 have issued blocking executive orders just since January. If the 373 00:19:36,599 --> 00:19:40,279 Court chooses to limit nationwide injunctions, it could have significant 374 00:19:40,319 --> 00:19:44,359 implications for other pending lawsuits against the Trump administration. So 375 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,119 that's the preview piece that I had pulled this morning 376 00:19:48,599 --> 00:19:52,200 from the Daily Caller News Foundation. 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Breaking news today that 398 00:20:58,519 --> 00:21:01,440 the US Supreme Court has had down a couple of rulings, 399 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:08,079 the biggest one being it's connected to the birthright citizenship issue, 400 00:21:08,079 --> 00:21:12,799 but it is about these nationwide injunctions that lower courts 401 00:21:12,839 --> 00:21:16,480 have been slapping on the Trump administration, basically coming out 402 00:21:16,519 --> 00:21:22,079 of five districts like California, Maryland, DC, Washington State like 403 00:21:22,319 --> 00:21:26,000 very few. Five of the ninety four districts account for 404 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,319 thirty five of the forty nationwide injunctions, and the US 405 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,839 Supreme Court has finally smacked down these courts and said 406 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,279 stop doing this. The Supreme Court handed the Trump administration 407 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,720 a win today by limiting the ability of federal judges 408 00:21:43,759 --> 00:21:48,440 to issue nationwide injunctions blocking the president's agenda. This is 409 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:54,079 according to National Reviews James James Lynch. The justices ruled 410 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,000 six to three along ideological lines and Trump versus CASA, 411 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,720 siding with the Trumpetmanstration's challenge to the scope of nationwide 412 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,960 injunctions issued against Trump's Birthrights Citizenship Executive Order. The Court 413 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,119 did not, however, weigh in on the legality of the 414 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:14,079 Birthright Citizenship Order itself. Justice Amy Cony Barrett wrote the 415 00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:20,319 majority opinion, finding that universal injunctions exceed the authority that 416 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,359 Congress has given to federal courts. Barrett was joined by 417 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,440 the Court's five other conservative justices. She writes, quote, the 418 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:35,759 injunctions before us today reflect a more recent development district 419 00:22:35,839 --> 00:22:39,640 courts asserting the power to prohibit enforcement of a law 420 00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:45,119 or policy against anyone. These injunctions, known as universal injunctions, 421 00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:49,599 likely exceed the equitable authority that Congress has granted to 422 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,319 federal courts. The Supremes ruled that lower courts cannot prevent 423 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,519 the federal government from enforcing its policies against non parties 424 00:22:58,599 --> 00:23:02,799 to the specific case they are ruling on. Right, you 425 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,759 can't apply a nationwide injunction on everybody when they are 426 00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:12,000 not parties to the case. For the time being, the 427 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,599 Justices have partially halted the nationwide injunctions against Trump's executive order. 428 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,519 They halted the injunctions in areas where their authority is 429 00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:22,839 too broad and prevent the executive branch from developing public 430 00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:29,359 guidance related to Trump's executive order. Then Barrett took Justice 431 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,079 Katanji Brown Jackson to task, or I might say, to 432 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,160 the woodshed, for the arguments that she made in her 433 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,160 dissenting opinion and apparent lack of interest in the specifics 434 00:23:42,319 --> 00:23:48,640 of the scope of judicial authority. Okay, before I read 435 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,240 Amy Cony Barrett, let me see here, I'm going to 436 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,400 try to find because I've got a whole bunch of 437 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,359 tabs open. 438 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,559 Speaker 1: You to, Well, all right, I'm not going to be 439 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:03,039 able to find it. 440 00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: I opened too many tabs because she Katanji Brown Jackson 441 00:24:10,279 --> 00:24:15,279 says something like, you know that this isn't that we're 442 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:20,039 essentially punching down on the on the lower courts, which 443 00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:24,680 is absurd. So here's what Barrett said, I'll try to 444 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,559 find the tab that I've got here is like I 445 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,960 really can't even like decipher. I've opened too many tabs. 446 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,359 I just have too many tabs. So here's what Barrett says. 447 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:34,799 Speaker 1: Quote. 448 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: The principal dissent by KBJ focuses on conventional legal terrain 449 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,119 like the Judiciary Act of seventeen eighty nine and our 450 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:49,440 cases on equity. Justice Jackson, however, chooses a startling line 451 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,839 of attack that is tethered neither to these sources nor 452 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:58,920 frankly to any doctrine whatsoever. So what is Barrett saying? 453 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:03,039 This is making it up. She's making up stuff. Do 454 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,079 you even law, bro? Like, what are you doing? And 455 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,119 then she says, basically, your descent is not even worth 456 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,240 anything more than a single sentence in reply, So I'm 457 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,279 going to give you one sentence. Here's what she says, 458 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,440 we will not dwell on Justice Jackson's argument, which is 459 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,880 at odds with more than two centuries worth of precedent, 460 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,160 not to mention the Constitution itself. Okay, so she just 461 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,240 flat out says we're not going to dwell on her 462 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,319 descent because it's stupid right only to say this one sentence, 463 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,920 and here it is, we observe only this. Justice Jackson 464 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:50,759 decries an imperial executive while embracing an imperial judiciary. She 465 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:55,039 would do well to heed her own admission. Everyone from 466 00:25:55,079 --> 00:26:00,400 the president on down is bound by law that goes 467 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:07,279 for judges too. And if you read Supreme Court rulings 468 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,720 and opinions and stuff, you don't see stuff like this. 469 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,359 This is a direct I don't want to say attack, 470 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,839 but response. I mean, she's just basically saying you don't 471 00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:21,680 know what you're talking about, and your opinion is crap. 472 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,039 The justices did not address the merits of Trump's birthright 473 00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:30,720 citizenship order. I mentioned that already. Carrie Severino, who is 474 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,440 the president of Judicial Crisis Network, said that the court 475 00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:37,039 has shut the door on the abuse of universal injunctions. 476 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,920 Today's decision is a victory for our constitutional separation of powers. 477 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,440 Justice Alito's concurrence to Barrett sounds the alarm that litigants 478 00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:51,480 have been attempting to abuse class action lawsuits as well 479 00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:54,519 as standing processes. It's like, do you have standing in. 480 00:26:54,519 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: Front of the court. 481 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 2: There's a process to determine do you have standing? So 482 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,319 they've been abusing this. The left has been abusing these 483 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,599 mechanisms and shows that the Court is well aware of 484 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,599 the problem and prepared to police those boundaries to shut 485 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,519 down judicial activists. 486 00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:15,079 Speaker 1: This just in. 487 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,039 Speaker 2: District Court Judge Boseburg has put a nationwide injunction on 488 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,519 this Supreme Court ruling. I'm just kidding. He can't do that, 489 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:33,079 especially now. Barrett is correct, and what she is essentially 490 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:38,960 saying is that KBJ and her fellow liberals on the Court, 491 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,720 she doesn't know what she's talking about and doesn't even 492 00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:46,279 seem interested in abiding by the judicial oath that we took. 493 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,400 That is essentially what Barrett is saying, because apparently at 494 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,640 some point in her dissent, KBJ said something like. 495 00:27:55,599 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: Oh, all of this legal ease. 496 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you're a judge. That's what you're supposed 497 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,920 to be dealing in, is the legal ease. That's what 498 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,480 we commoners say about the way you guys talk and write. 499 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: That's all legalese mumbo jumbo. 500 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 2: But you're supposed to know what you're talking about if 501 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,599 you're a freaking Supreme Court justice. Here's a great idea. 502 00:28:16,759 --> 00:28:19,480 How about making an escape to a really special and 503 00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:22,720 secluded getaway in western North Carolina. 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Notably, 531 00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:59,920 he says, Justice Kagan, who condemned these universal and junk 532 00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:03,480 during the Obama administration, has found a comfort level with 533 00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:06,000 those injunctions during the Trump administration. 534 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: Surprise, surprise, Justice. 535 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: Alito flags the continuing ambiguity on class certification that gives 536 00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:20,680 wiggle room for lower courts potentially threatens the practical significance 537 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,839 of today's decision, the availability of third party standing and 538 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,640 class certification. So that was the I said that there 539 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,400 was a footnote that I had seen referenced, but I 540 00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:33,920 did not get to read it. And so this is 541 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,319 what Turley is talking about. This is the footnote. It's 542 00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:40,799 a footnote eight, says the principal dissent faults US for 543 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,720 failing to identify a single founding era case in which 544 00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:47,920 this court held that universal injunctions exceed a federal court's 545 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,200 equitable authority. But this absence only bolsters our case that 546 00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:57,039 this court had no occasion to reject the universal injunction 547 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,039 as inconsistent with traditional equity practice. Merely demonstrates that no 548 00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:05,559 party even bothered to ask for such a sweeping remedy, 549 00:31:05,839 --> 00:31:09,680 because no court would have entertained the request. What is 550 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,319 he saying there, He's saying, Yeah, there's a reason why 551 00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:15,920 this issue has never come up before. It's because this 552 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,920 is brand new territory. Nobody has ever thought. 553 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,319 Speaker 1: To do this. 554 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:27,319 Speaker 2: You guys have been breaking the system. That's the point 555 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,160 and now because you guys, as I went over yesterday, 556 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,480 for the left, you can never go too far. There's 557 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,079 no limiting principles here. Oh, by the way, are we 558 00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:42,039 going to get calls again to pack the court right 559 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,319 after this? Just curious, be careful because Trump is still president. 560 00:31:46,359 --> 00:31:50,720 You got a Republican Senate, so just be careful. You 561 00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:53,000 may want to just you hold your fire on that 562 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,359 argument again until you get a Democrat in charge or 563 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:01,200 a Democrat US Senate. Right, But this hasn't been done. 564 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,000 These tactics have never been used. The left has adopted 565 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:10,160 this new tactic which now required the Supreme Court to 566 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,279 step in and say, you guys have gone too far. 567 00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:18,559 You have to smack their hands. They do not stop otherwise. 568 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:25,680 But Alito pointed out that there is continuing ambiguity on 569 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,640 class certification. 570 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,599 Speaker 1: So this has got some court observers, shall we call them. 571 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,119 Speaker 2: This has raised a concern among people that the left 572 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,839 is now going to try to abuse the class certification 573 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,000 process with the help of judges, that they will continue 574 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,480 to judge shop, forum shop. They will go in front 575 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:54,400 of friendly judges, allies, and they will try to make 576 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,720 it easier the judge and the judge will allow them 577 00:32:57,799 --> 00:33:03,519 to do so, to create essentially fictitious classes of people, 578 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,640 And so you'll get a lawyer up there like I 579 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,359 think a whole class of people is America, and the 580 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,680 judge will say, I agree, that's a whole class now 581 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,759 and nationwide injunction again, and then the Court's going to 582 00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:18,720 have to step back in and say, no, you can't 583 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,440 do that either. But that wasn't part of this particular case. 584 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,119 In some ways, Turlie says, the dissents from Sutto, Mayor 585 00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:34,400 and Jackson only reaffirmed the impact of the opinion. Jackson 586 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:41,000 is particularly hyperbolic in talking out or talking about our 587 00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:47,839 quote unquote collective demise. Barrett clearly takes offense and delivers 588 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,799 the haymaker, waving away attention to the limits on judicial 589 00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:57,200 power as a quote mind numbingly technical query. She offers 590 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,440 a vision of the judicial role that would make even 591 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,480 the most art and defender of judicial supremacy blush. While 592 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,279 most would find this mild in comparison to their own 593 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,880 heated exchanges with family members, Turtly says it has the 594 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,960 feel of a virtual cage match on this court institution. 595 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,880 Barrett is effectively pushing back that if there is a 596 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:24,239 threat here to our system, it is Jacksonian judicial supremacy. 597 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,679 For her part, Katanji Brown Jackson unleashed a dissent that 598 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,599 is hyperbolic to the point of hyperventilation. Here it is, 599 00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:35,920 this is what. Yeah, here it is from Katanji Brown Jackson. 600 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,519 This court's complicity in the creation of a culture of 601 00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:45,320 disdain for lower courts, their rulings, and the law as 602 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,800 they interpret it will surely hasten the downfall of our 603 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:55,199 governing institutions, enabling our collective demise, which is a really 604 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,760 wordy way of saying the democracy. Right, that's that's what 605 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,320 she's doing. This is not law. This is not a 606 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:11,840 legal opinion. Nothing like a universal injunction was available at 607 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,039 the founding of our country, or for that matter, for 608 00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:22,199 more than a century thereafter. That's what the majority opinion 609 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,000 ruled under the Judiciary Act. Federal court's lack authority to 610 00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:30,480 issue them, you don't get to do it. This is 611 00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:38,440 a return to constitutional constraints. Thank goodness, Mitch McConnell. Thank you, 612 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,599 Mitch McConnell. Don't say that very often, but thank you, 613 00:35:41,679 --> 00:35:46,760 Mitch McConnell. David Limbaugh brother of Rush says, now that 614 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,840 the left has suffered this humongous blow, which, by the way, 615 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,440 not for nothing. But the word humongous is woefully underused 616 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,880 I think in today's society. I remember when I was 617 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,840 a kid, we used this term all the time. I 618 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,880 never knew how to spell it. But anyway, David Limbaugh 619 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:07,760 says the left has suffered this humongous blow. But now 620 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:14,000 he says, what other anti democratic, anti constitutional, lawless, chaotic, 621 00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:19,360 violent tactics will they devise to obstruct America's return to greatness? 622 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:25,440 Do not underestimate their capacity for and willingness to destroy right, 623 00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:30,440 This is the concern. It's sort of like it's sort 624 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,440 of like city managers, school superintendents. You think that, oh 625 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,519 they're awful, right, and then you get somebody else that's worse. 626 00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:42,000 So yes, and by the way, I'm not saying anything 627 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,800 like that, we should have preserved this chaotic system. My 628 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,639 concern is what will the leftist lawyers and their pals 629 00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:53,800 on the bench, what will they come up with next 630 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,559 in order to sow even more chaos? 631 00:36:56,679 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: That's my next concern. 632 00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 2: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 633 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,960 so much for listening. I could not do the show 634 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,519 without your support and the support of the businesses that 635 00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:10,679 advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support 636 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,360 them too and tell them you heard it here. You 637 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,039 can also become a patron at my Patreon page or 638 00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:18,760 go to dpetecleanershow dot com. 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