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Speaker 14: I will be hearing those sounds in my nightmares. That's

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pretty epic though. I love that that track is called

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Fates Mirrored, and that is from the band Questing Beast

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and we had Questing Beast on in the first hour

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today we played some of their music and had a

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great conversation with Shane and Jane, and of course in

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the second hour we had Temple Mountain here with us

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live in studio. Great conversation with him and he played

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a bunch of songs live for us. This is Matt

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Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of

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Today is Saturday, October nineteen, twenty twenty four. Welcome if

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you are listening live on Saturday. So here's what's going on.

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We are supposed to have guests in the third hour,

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a couple of guys from the band Dead by Wednesday.

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They've got a brand new single and I don't know

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exactly where they are in their trip here. My understanding

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is Jenny messaged me they are on their way. The

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problem is they got stuck in the I didn't know

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it was today, but the Hartford You know, they're from

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Connecticut and apparently today is the Hartford Marathon and that

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delayed them and set them back time wise. So hopefully

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they're able to still get here. Jenny had said they're

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running thirty minutes behind, so that would put them here

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by eleven thirty if that, If that holds up, so

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hopefully we'll still be able to have them. Really looking

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forward to talking to these guys. I haven't seen any

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of the members of Dead by Wednesday in probably fifteen years.

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It's been a long time. So we'll see what happens.

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I do want to and you know, whether they make

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it here or not. I will play the new single.

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It's not a world radio premiere. It has been on

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the radio apparently, but but they they did a cover

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of No Easy Way Out by Robert Tepper. I think

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that's the original artist, same Robert Tepper from Oh geez,

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what movie is that from? It's It's It's one of

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the Rocky movies. It's not the first Rocky movie, though,

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I forget which one it's from. Anyway, they did a

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cover of that Ain't No Easy Way that song, and

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it's really good. I listened to it. They sent it

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to me to play on the show today and I

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listened to it like five times in a row. I

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loved it so much, so very very cool. So we'll

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see what happens. Hopefully they're able to get here, uh,

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and we'll we'll love to talk with them. We might

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only have a diminished segment with them. Unfortunately it is

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a live show and we end promptly at noon. But

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we'll see, we'll see. But uh yeah, but I'll play

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the track regardless. I mean, even if it looks like,

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show and they're not here, I'll go ahead and play

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it because I do want to share it with you.

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for a moment, and then I do have another subject.

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of people in the industry listen to the show, and

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a lot of our listeners are musicians, and there's always

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interesting things happening in the music industry, that's for sure.

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But let me mention again. So big show tonight, Big

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Halloween show at Terminus in Nashua, Terminus Underground in Nashua,

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New Hampshire, Questing Beast. Let's see if I can do

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this for memory. Because it's a big show. There's a

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lot of bands, Questing Beast, Able Blood, the Gray Curtain,

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the Nagans, Dead, Harrison of course, and who am I forgetting?

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I think I'm leaving somebody out Horror. That's it. Yeah,

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a blur. Last week we had three of the bands

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that are playing tonight on the show. It was fantastic.

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We had a Horror and Able Blood love those guys

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and the Gray Curtain. And so this week we had

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a Questing Beasts. But they're going to be opening the

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show tonight. Doors open at five pm. It's a long

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show because it's a big show, lots of bands. I

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believe it's a twenty dollars admission, So get there. One

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thirty four Haines Street in Nashua, New Hampshire, Terminus Underground.

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It's an amazing place. You should definitely check it out.

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By the way, as long as I'm talking about it,

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I'll just forgive me if this is a little self indulgent,

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but Terminus Underground is of course part of the Midnight

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Creatives Collective in Nashua, the Great Place, and actually Eleanor

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and Spelfe I know are going to be They're booked

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to make a return appearance here on Matt Connorton Unleashed

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very soon. Last time they were here, Andre Dumont of

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course was with them as well. They're all from the

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Midnight Creatives Collective and of course Andre plays in the

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band Dead Harrison. But they also have a business bar

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there and for listeners who might not know this, I'm

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think is what we decided for a time frame, because

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All the information is there. All the information is there

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at Matt Connerson dot com. Okay, shameless plug but no.

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But it is a great place and they're they're doing

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great things there and great for the community, not just

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not just the local community and the city of Nashua,

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but of course for the music scene. A lot of

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local talent there also national touring acts. You know, when

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we had Green Jello or Green Jelly, I never know

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which to call them on the show, Uh not too

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too long ago. Jenny helped get that in motion, getting

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them booked at UH at Terminus, so that was fantastic.

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So so they're doing a lot of great things there.

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Let's see. So if you are just joining us, if

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you're looking for dead by Wednesday, they have been delayed

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in traffic because of the Hartford Marathon. I'd say, I'd

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say damn you Hartford, but I can't because it's the

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city of my birth. I was actually born in Hartford, Connecticut.

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So anyway, uh, let's do this. So I mentioned, you know,

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there's always things going on in the music industry that

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we can talk about, and I just realized where that

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buzzing was coming from.

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Speaker 5: I apologize.

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Speaker 14: There's always things, interesting things going on that we can

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talk about, and we always have something we I'd like

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to keep something kind of in my back pocket in

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case something like this happens with a guests, especially as

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we move into cold and flu season, these things will happen.

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There's a story involving the Pretenders rock legends. The Pretenders.

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They've been around for decades and decades, of course, and

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there's a little bit of controversy around the band now,

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and it's by the way, it seems like these days

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controversy in the music industry. It stems from well, either

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either AI related issues, which is what we talk about

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We've done a couple of segments on the Oasis tour

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and some of the issues around that, and then of

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course there's the limp biscuit lawsuit for two hundred million

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dollars against UMG Universal Music Group, and I thought about

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maybe talking about that today and maybe, you know, maybe

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get here, you know, maybe we'll go to that after

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we finished talking about this. But so the Pretenders, they

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they have done something controversial, but it has nothing to

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do with ticket prices or the availability of tickets and

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all that goes wrong there. This is what's going on

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with the Pretenders. And I think this is interesting, and

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this is from what website is this americansongwriter dot com.

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And I don't know how far we'll get into this

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because the guys could arrive at any time, but the

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Pretenders are dividing fans over new live music policy. So

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here's what it says. With decades long career, With a

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decades long career under their belt, the Pretenders are no

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strangers to the dynamics of live performances. But in October

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twenty twenty four, shakeup prompted by frontwoman Chris has left

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many wondering if she's lost touch with the proper relationship

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between fans and musicians. Hind made her announcement ahead of

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The Pretender's October sixteen performance at Usher Hall in Edinburgh, Scotland,

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and in true online fashion, the Internet seems wholly divided

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over whether Hine's comments were just or unfounded by the way,

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I intentionally avoided pre reading this, So I'm learning about

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this with you if you're not already aware of it,

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because I want to give you my unvarnished, shall we say,

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gut reaction to this. So it says here. The Pretender's

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embarked on an almost exclusively sold out tour of the

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UK in October. Stops include Oxford, Bristol, Portsmouth in London,

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among other large cities cities. But just before the band

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made their way to Scotland's capital to perform at Usher Hall,

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Chrissy Hind shared a message on social media that angered

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many fans, and here's what she said. Quote. First of all,

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everyone who's come to see our shows, we're in the

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home stretch of this year's tour and it's been a

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real pleasure. Fantastic cities and fantastic audiences. We've had a

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great time playing for you. One thing we feel obliged

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to explain when we go on tour. The whole point

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is for the band. The whole point of it for

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the band is that we are playing to a different

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audience every night. That's why we go on tour. So

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if we're in Edinburgh like we are tonight, we look

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forward to seeing local faces. This is what makes it

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new for us every night. We appreciate those of you

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who follow us and buy tickets for multiple nights, So

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please don't be offended if we request you to move

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out of the front row. All we are asking is

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that you give the local fans a chance. This is

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what keeps it new for us, especially after being on

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tour for so many months. Unquote. Okay again, I did

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not pre read this. I didn't know this is what

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this was about. My gut reaction. And by the way,

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I'll open the phone line too if you reaction to

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this six oh three two five six seven, if you'd

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like to chime in, or of course you can chime

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in in the chat room, but uh, the studio line

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is open six oh three two five six seven. My

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gut reaction to this is what are you doing? Why

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would you? This is weird to me for a couple

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of reasons. Number one, why would you go out of

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your way to alienate your your fans that way, your

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die hard fans, Because obviously, if anybody is actually going

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and following the band around buying tickets to multiple shows,

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you're only doing that unless you're a scalper. You're only

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doing that if you're a die hard fan. So why

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would you want to alienate your most dedicated fans like that.

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That's bizarre and I think really self sabotaging. It's really strange.

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Another thing that I find very odd about this is

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are you trying to tell me that when you're on

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stage and you look out at the crowd. First of all,

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I mean, you know the pretenders, they're I mean they've

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they've got to be in their seventies at least, right, Well,

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I shouldn't say at least. I'm sure they're not in

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their eighties, but they have to be in their seventies,

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if not late sixties. I mean, are they actually able?

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Like is Chrissy Hind Maybe she wears contact lenses in

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a correct or vision in twenty twenty. I have no idea,

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but I'm just saying, is she able? To actually look

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out at the crowd and see as she's performing, look

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at the faces, look at the people she sees in

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the front row, and look at them, see their faces

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clearly enough to identify, Hey, these are all the same

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people I saw at the previous show. And even if

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she can do that, I find it really hard to believe. Look,

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I know they're a legendary band, but is this really

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a problem, Like, is it actually all the same people

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in the front row of every show? I just find

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that hard to believe. Yes, there are people who will

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if they really love a band, if they're a die hard,

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if they're a super fan, they'll buy tickets and try

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to go to as many different shows as they can.

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I mean, you know, look, I'm a Kiss fan. Kiss

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is my favorite band of all time. I know plenty

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of I never did it, but I know plenty of

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Kiss fans who you know, when Kiss would go on tour,

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especially the Farewell tour, because it was in theory the

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last time you'd see them, right at the end of

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the road tour, you know, people would, people who had

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the money because it's expensive. You know, people would buy

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tickets for multiple shows and kind of follow the band

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you know, and of course as bands that are legendary

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for having those kinds of fans that would do that

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kind of thing, like The Grateful Dead is probably the

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epitome of that, right, the classic example of you know,

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you had all these dead heads who would actually sort

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of go on tour with the band, and that they

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would follow, and the band would go on tour, these

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people would follow. I don't know how anyone affords it,

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but how you know, would follow the band on tour

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and and go to all the shows and and you know,

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it gets to a point where the band gets to

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know the fans, gets to know these super fans by

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knows them by name, develops relationships with them because they

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see them so much.

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Speaker 5: You know, But.

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Speaker 14: Do the pretenders as they're doing these shows? Is it

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literally the same people in the front row. I just

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find that hard to believe. Isn't that a little that

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seems like a stretch. Again, I'm not knocking the band

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in terms of, you know, their place in music history

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and their fan base I'm sure is even in twenty

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twenty four. Obviously these shows are selling out, so obviously

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their fan base is enormous. But I find it, I

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just find it hard to believe that Chrissy hind is

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actually looking at the front row and seeing the exact

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same set of people every night. And even if she is,

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why do you wanna why do you want to do

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this to those people? Why do you want to talk

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to them that way? Why do you want to alienate them?

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You know, It's it's bizarre to me, And and what

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in her mind would make her think that this was

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a good idea to say this publicly and to I mean,

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you're chastising people. Really, it's very I mean not to

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sound cliche, but if this even still means anything in

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twenty twenty four, but it's very un rock and roll.

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I would say, you know, telling telling people, well, you know,

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if you buy a ticket, you know, I don't want

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I don't want to see you in the front row

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more than once. I mean, it's just I find this

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very bizarre. I find this whole thing very strange. Let's see.

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So here's the next part of the article. This ought

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to be good fans react to the band's request.

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Speaker 5: Uh uh.

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Speaker 14: Now, I again I did not preread this. So I'm

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going to make a prediction, and I'm going to predict

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that the reaction was not positive. But let's see, well again,

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if you're if you're just learning about this as I am,

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will learn together. But so it's not a spoiler. But

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I'm guessing that the that there was a bit of

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a negative pushback on this, okay, it says Chrissy Ian's

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announcement divided fans across several social media platforms. While some

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praised the singer and guitarists for her thoughtfulness and willingness

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to prioritize local crowds, others condemned the message, saying it

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was disrespectful to her most devoted fans. These fans, the

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dissentered argues, deserved top priority. By the way, let me

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stop there for a moment. I don't even think of

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it in those terms. I don't think of it in

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terms of who deserves Nobody deserves top priority.

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Speaker 5: This is uh.

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Speaker 14: You know, touring is a business operating in a free market.

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You know, whoever buys the tickets buys the tickets. Whoever's

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going to the show is going to the show. If

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you buy a front row ticket, you get your front

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row seat. That's it.

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Speaker 5: There's there's no.

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Speaker 14: It's not a matter of priority. It's a matter of

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first come, first serve. Now, I know that it's not

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a perfect system, and we've talked a lot on the

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show again with the Oasis debacle, with the tickets and

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the dynamic pricing, which is very controversial. I don't want

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to take that side street right now, but I get it.

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But look, it's not a matter of I mean, if

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you really, if you really want to quote unquote prioritize

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local crowds, then maybe maybe if you can, maybe you

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devise something. This might be too convoluted and complex, but

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you could do it. Devise a system where when you

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buy a ticket, if you show residency. Sounds like I'm

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talking about voting, but we don't. We don't do politics here.

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But if you show residency, maybe if you're buying a

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ticket to that local show, then you get a free

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meet and greet. Right, that's part of the you know,

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because that's a big thing now with these and I

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don't know if the Pretenders is doing anything like that,

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but you can, you know, on a lot of big

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tours you can buy a meet and greet package and

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you get to meet the band and have them sign

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things and say a few words to you. I don't know,

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I mean, you could do something like that. You could

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do something special. If somebody proves their local residency, they

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get to meet you. I don't know. I mean, if

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you're really that serious about this. But this is just strange.

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This is just strange. Okay, So here's an example. Here's

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some examples of some of the reactions. One angry fan

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posted on Facebook. Quote talk about how to kick your

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biggest supporters in the teeth, and I suppose you don't

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want your photo taken either. Get off the stage if

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you can't appreciate the people who have kept you there.

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I just found this statement really insulting. Talk about taking

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your biggest supporters for granted. Sorry, we're bored of your quote. Sorry,

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we're bored of your faces unquote Yeah, I mean again,

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Chrissy hind is not clearly it is not her intention

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to kick pretenders fans in the teeth. But she just

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doesn't want to have to see your teeth. You know,

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she doesn't want you close enough. She doesn't want to

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have to see your teeth on more than one night.

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I guess other self described uber fans stood by Heine's request. Okay,

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so there's an example of a supporter. One comment or

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said quote, It's not always about you at this point

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in time. It's about the band who wants to keep

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things fresh at the end of a long tour for

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the benefit of all those who attend, and for local fans,

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ninety nine percent of whom this is their only and

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maybe last chance to see the band. You don't own

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the band and shouldn't own the front row experience, and

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well done Chrissy grabbing the guts to courteously point that out. Unquote,

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But the commenter says here, this commenter is saying, well,

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you know, ninety nine percent of these people this will

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be their only chance to see the band, So that

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kind of undercuts the point, doesn't it. Okay, Dead by

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Wednesday is here, so I'm gonna go let them in

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and I'm gonna play this the new single, their cover

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of No Easy Way Out.

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Speaker 5: Check this out.

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Speaker 14: This is really good.

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Speaker 10: We're out in the struggle.

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Speaker 6: Boom Baby, better get that stream.

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Speaker 10: I think it's a bedive her boat.

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Speaker 15: How you get into the hands of beets and something

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going fad about some feelings never time. I'm not asking

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about now the jeez, I just want to know how.

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Speaker 13: There's a wisy way out there's no short time out.

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There's a rasy way out.

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Speaker 15: Jimmy, I don't wanna passify you. I don't wanna track

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you down.

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Speaker 13: Let him being like a friend.

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Speaker 5: That's a stranger, you know.

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Speaker 16: B Why by y'all, Why y'all whys I house my

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bright I y'all by y'all wild, B's like y'all out

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wi wild? Why y'all bide like God?

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Speaker 6: All Wow?

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Speaker 11: Why y'all all?

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Speaker 13: There is a way se way out. There's no show talking.

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Speaker 6: There's some ways be way out.

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Speaker 11: Kimmy, kid, that's.

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00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 13: So easy, way I say, all white sky, Why I

473
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,200
so shot down?

474
00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 6: God?

475
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 13: So easy anyway else?

476
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 10: Givenything can be, maybe maybe a wee can ship.

477
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 11: We can say out we.

478
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 10: Sn't doing doing?

479
00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 13: Then it is true.

480
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 15: Any ford.

481
00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:38,759
Speaker 10: It's something's doing a bay a bone.

482
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:46,319
Speaker 15: It's a basic time about I ask him about that change.

483
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 11: I just want to know why.

484
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 13: This is no easy ways out? Why I why I

485
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:09,199
shot time? Toddise not wise?

486
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 11: I why out.

487
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:13,159
Speaker 17: I go.

488
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,519
Speaker 6: Not wise?

489
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 7: I not wise?

490
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 8: I not wise?

491
00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 6: I w.

492
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 14: Oh so good? No easy way out. You might have

493
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,800
heard that song before. A gentleman named Robert Tepper had

494
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,199
a hit with that in the in the eighties. But

495
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,199
that is Dead by Wednesday and that is a brand

496
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,320
new single and we're spinning it here. And we have

497
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,840
two of the members from Dead by Wednesday here with

498
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,760
us live in studio. We've got Mike and Esteban here.

499
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,400
How are you guys?

500
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 5: Hey An, That.

501
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 14: Damn Hartford Marathon delayed you guys, but I'm glad.

502
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 11: You made it.

503
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 5: Excuse me. At the highway, I was like, oh my god,

504
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:53,880
I was.

505
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 14: Gonna I was gonna play the song regardless, like if

506
00:35:56,039 --> 00:35:57,639
if you if for some reason you didn't get here

507
00:35:57,639 --> 00:35:58,920
I was just gonna play it anyway at the end

508
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,360
of the day. But no, that's that's really really good now. Mike,

509
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,360
So we were talking when you were in the other

510
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:06,199
So you're an original member, you've you've been here the

511
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,079
whole time. How long when did that By Wednesday start?

512
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 5: Probably?

513
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,039
Speaker 14: Oh, pull up, pull that mic up. I'm sorry, sorry,

514
00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:14,840
those mics are probably there, you go.

515
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:23,039
Speaker 7: Okay, So wow. I think Opus and I met probably

516
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:30,119
late three. The idea conjured up around oh four and

517
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,159
made it official two thousand and five.

518
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 14: Okay, yeah, I thought it had been about twenty years. Yeah,

519
00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:38,760
wow wow, yeah, gone in the blink. Of an eye. Right,

520
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,800
it goes, it goes quicker than we then we know

521
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:44,280
that is true, and asked abound, how long have you

522
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:44,800
been in the band?

523
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 5: Now? This January will be five years, five years, five

524
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,039
years already Mike, Yeah, I know. Wow.

525
00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:51,119
Speaker 14: Does it seem longer to you or does it seem

526
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,719
quicker like that?

527
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:53,119
Speaker 9: Yeah?

528
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, in a way, it seems longer, but then when

529
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,440
you think back at it, you're just like it went

530
00:36:57,559 --> 00:36:59,039
by super fast.

531
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. What went into the decision to

532
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,320
cover this song? It's it's not I don't think I've

533
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,639
ever heard anyone cover No Easy Way Out, but it's

534
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,840
but I was, I always like the song as catchy

535
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,239
as hell, and it's it sounds great, like why did

536
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,440
you guys pick that song?

537
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 7: You want to ticket?

538
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:16,639
Speaker 8: Uh?

539
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 5: So Opus is a big like uh karate kid and

540
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,719
Rocky fan, and I mean who doesn't like Rocky right right?

541
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 11: Right?

542
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:25,199
Speaker 16: Yeah?

543
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, it was. I think it originated with Opus

544
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,159
and Dave. Well how did how did it come about?

545
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:41,639
Speaker 7: It was Opus presented the idea and usually I say that,

546
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,920
but I do recall when I when I watched Rocky

547
00:37:47,039 --> 00:37:50,840
four as a kid, I heard that song and I

548
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,880
was like, Wow, I bet this song could take off

549
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,519
like the previous, like Iya the Tiger, the previous, like

550
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:03,360
the Rocky series, always had a hit single.

551
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 14: Yes, yep.

552
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:07,639
Speaker 7: So I was like, Okay, this will probably it, and

553
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,960
it never It just kind of fizzled out. So when

554
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:15,119
he presented the idea, I was like possibly, yeah, and

555
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,320
then we just kind of toyed around with it and

556
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,000
he kept pushing it. It's like, hey, you know, try it,

557
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:24,719
listen to it. Yeah, So he kept pushing it and

558
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,360
it just morphed, you know.

559
00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 5: Well, then we jammed it that one time in the

560
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:31,360
space and then we were just like, oh, it kind

561
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,239
of really good.

562
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's excellent, and it's already getting played

563
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:37,679
like on serious.

564
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's actually been playing there I think since uh

565
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,320
it's been a week, third or seventh, I know it's

566
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,039
been a week. Yeah, at least a week.

567
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,639
Speaker 14: Yeah, excellent. I assume this is part of the live set.

568
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,760
Now you guys playing this live.

569
00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:55,199
Speaker 7: We are going to introduce it into the set in

570
00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:56,159
two weeks.

571
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 14: Nice Swarmy Fast Yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent. Yeah, looking forward

572
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,599
to Swarmy Fast and seeing you guys. It's been a

573
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,320
long time since I've seen you guys live, so really

574
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:06,280
looking forward to this.

575
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's we what we The last time we were

576
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,960
on stage was May.

577
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,159
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, June. June, yeah, June too, June.

578
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 7: Yeah.

579
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:15,599
Speaker 10: Yeah.

580
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's been a minute for us.

581
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 15: Yeah. Yeah.

582
00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 14: And then now you've got a big in uh well

583
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:22,880
next year, right, there's a big tour.

584
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:27,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a tour that's happening in January, starting

585
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,719
January seventh in Brooklyn and then ending January twelfth, I

586
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,199
believe in Albany. And we're running with Skin Lab.

587
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,599
Speaker 14: Oh very good, Yeah, very good. Have you toured with

588
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:38,079
them before?

589
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 5: No, No, it's exciting. It's the first time. I mean

590
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,360
we we've hung out with some of those dudes, like

591
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,079
out in California, Yeah, out in Nam, but this is

592
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:48,199
our first time actually jamming with him. So yeah, pretty excited.

593
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:48,599
Speaker 14: Yeah.

594
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,199
Speaker 7: So then we've got another run in March with Category seven. Okay,

595
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,559
that is the new supergroup. I know John Bush is

596
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:04,519
the vocalist. Oh, it's like who's who of I'm trying

597
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:08,280
to pull up the members, but Jason Bittner is on drum,

598
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:12,039
John Bush on vocals, and then.

599
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 5: Uh a former member of Exodus. I believe.

600
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 7: So, yeah, it's a it's a great lineup.

601
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,119
Speaker 14: I'll still look that up.

602
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:22,039
Speaker 7: We're doing a few shows in March supporting their tour.

603
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,280
Yeah with them and ex order exorder okay, someone who else?

604
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:29,920
Ex order hand of the Tribe, had of the Tribe

605
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:30,960
category seven?

606
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 14: Yeah, Oh, very good, very good. I'm curious, Mike, because

607
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,400
you've been you've been there with Opus from the beginning.

608
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:40,800
Has the has the approach changed it all over the

609
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,039
years in terms of the of the live show or

610
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:44,119
even even recording?

611
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:44,639
Speaker 5: Uh?

612
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,519
Speaker 14: Like you like you said, you know, with no easy

613
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:48,960
way out. He had to kind of talk you into it.

614
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:51,079
Like has that has that process changed over the years

615
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:52,000
over twenty years.

616
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 7: Or not really? I mean you're going to have some

617
00:40:56,559 --> 00:41:01,360
you know, as members change, you're I don't know, ideology,

618
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:07,320
your approach to writing and performing changes, but again it

619
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,960
kind of evolves. So you know, at the end of

620
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,639
the day, you're three guys, four guys working together. So

621
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,440
once you can gel, once you can communicate and get along.

622
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:24,440
The music part, the composition and the creativity isn't all

623
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:25,440
that It's not that.

624
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 5: Hard, right, right?

625
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 4: Is it?

626
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,519
Speaker 14: Is it challenging? When you know, because you and Opus

627
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:35,199
have been, like I said, from there from the beginning,

628
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,840
the core of it, like having all these changes over

629
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,280
the years, is there ever a point where you go, well,

630
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,320
you know, we've we've had we've had a lot of changes,

631
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:44,599
and you know, I don't know if we can keep

632
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:46,679
doing this. I mean, do you ever kind of second

633
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,519
guess at or are you just so committed to it?

634
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:56,639
Speaker 7: The maybe the last two we're like, oh man, because

635
00:41:56,679 --> 00:42:03,079
we had written material, we had another album, like we

636
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,880
had we had the timeline laid out for a year.

637
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:09,280
We had like six songs in the camp like we

638
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,840
were on a roll. And then when you have these

639
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,599
lineup changes, then it's like, okay, well you can't use

640
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:18,880
this song because you know, once you throw all that

641
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,320
stuff into the mix, then it's like turmoil and then

642
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,599
you gotta So the last one of those, I was like, man,

643
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,320
you know that's tough because but again, when the right

644
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:35,559
personnel is in play, then you know it you rebound quicker.

645
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,719
But yeah, it can be you know, you're building something

646
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,159
then all of a sudden just rpe sorry.

647
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:49,119
Speaker 14: Yeah, and then it's like again again, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah.

648
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,599
So Estemon, how did you come to be in the band?

649
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:52,920
How did you become the singer.

650
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 5: So it was right before Covid, I believe January of

651
00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:02,559
twenty twenty. The band had gotten a call we were

652
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:05,679
going to go on a thirty day tour and yeah,

653
00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:07,840
it was like four. It was a four or six weeks.

654
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 4: It was.

655
00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 7: I think it was slated for six, but realistically there

656
00:43:13,519 --> 00:43:15,679
was no way it was going to be six. I

657
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,920
didn't buy into that, but I think we had at

658
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,559
least a solid at least three or four.

659
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was, it was, it was long. I knew

660
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:25,039
we had to take like a week and a half

661
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:27,800
off because they had to break into Canada and another

662
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:33,000
band was going to hook up, but it was the

663
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:36,679
band had gotten Slater for that and the vocalist before

664
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,519
me had just picked up a new career.

665
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,039
Speaker 9: Oh.

666
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 5: So it was like one of those things of like

667
00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:45,079
what do I do? Do I go on tour? Pass

668
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:47,519
up the opportunity? So I mean, no, hey, I mean

669
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,440
anybody would have taken the opportunity he did. So Yeah,

670
00:43:50,559 --> 00:43:53,599
and at that point I was with another band, a

671
00:43:53,639 --> 00:43:56,760
smaller local band, and Opus had given me a call

672
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,400
and he was just like, hey, come down an audition,

673
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:02,800
and uh, I think, what was it like? Two three

674
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,239
days later I came down and auditioned, and then like uh,

675
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,960
three days after that, I got the call and they

676
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,199
were just like, hey, come aboard, Yeah, if you want

677
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,800
to come on this tour. I'm like sweet, request the

678
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,880
time off of work and everything. And then dune dun dub.

679
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

680
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 14: When you auditioned, did you know, like did you get

681
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,840
because sometimes you know, guys will say, you know, I

682
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,239
auditioned for the span and I just knew it felt right,

683
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,039
like did you did you know it?

684
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,559
Speaker 5: Or for me if it felt really good as soon

685
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:34,920
as I got there, like just the energy when we

686
00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:39,239
when we jammed and everything it was it felt right, yeah,

687
00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:39,960
fuck good.

688
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 14: Yeah. Did you know Mike right off the bat that

689
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:42,960
he was the guy?

690
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 7: Yeah?

691
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,079
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean I know he's sitting right next to.

692
00:44:47,679 --> 00:44:52,679
Speaker 7: Put it on the spot. No I remember, I don't remember.

693
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,800
I remember feeling like, all right, this is like a

694
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,960
seamless transition. Yeah, like I don't remember any like I

695
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:02,119
don't know. Yeah, like we clicked like that.

696
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 14: Yeah. Yeah, And that's nice when that happens too, when

697
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,280
you can have a scene. You know, because I've been

698
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,199
in bands, not at the level that you guys are at,

699
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,000
but I know, like when there's changes and it's like

700
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,760
you know, when someone new comes in and they're just

701
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,760
the right person right away, it's like, oh, thank god,

702
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,320
you know this is gonna be easier then.

703
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 7: And prior to him, we had a couple auditions. We

704
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,440
had some you know, and like you knew within the

705
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:27,679
first two minutes they're like, all right, I'll give the

706
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,719
guy the benefit of the doubt, and then five minutes later.

707
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 14: You're like all right, no, yeah, yeah, what like like

708
00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:36,599
when others would audition, like what would be the prop?

709
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,199
Speaker 7: Like were they just not up to the the material

710
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:44,559
or we had well, we had one dude, Like I

711
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:48,199
want to say, I didn't hear I didn't hear what

712
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,920
he had done before. I think I knew he was

713
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,760
in a band. They told me, l right, he's singing

714
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,239
in this band, and I think I heard a song.

715
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,679
I was like, Okay, sounds great. He comes in and

716
00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:02,239
I don't know, maybe he just doesn't audition well. But

717
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:05,480
he was nervous. Is I don't know if I can

718
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:13,119
on this. He was nervous is anything, And he to

719
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,239
compensate for that, he had been drinking, So he shows

720
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:23,199
up like freaking about alcohol nervous. Now that combination you

721
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,800
can't sing, you know, and then it was like, look,

722
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:32,000
guys like so we said, look go home, let's try

723
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:32,639
this again.

724
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 14: You to say, let's yeah, pretty generous.

725
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 7: He came back still you know better, but no, you know,

726
00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:45,840
so we had like stuff like that, or people who

727
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,960
tell you they're going to come down and then they don't,

728
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:51,639
you know, stuff like that. Usually the best I found

729
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,000
is through word of mouth or like bands who know

730
00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:58,800
other bands or approach other people. The way I met

731
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,360
Opus site ipproached him and I was like, look, dude,

732
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:05,239
you and I should start a band. I never met him,

733
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:08,960
no kidding, Yeah, I was like, I'm a better bass

734
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:11,440
player than the guy that you're playing with right now,

735
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,920
and we need to start a band. Yeah, you know,

736
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,639
so sometimes you gotta just like, you know, talk to people.

737
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,679
Speaker 14: Yeah exactly exactly. Was that intimidating because he's an intense guy,

738
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:25,199
I think, I mean, from when I've met.

739
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 7: Him, he's I was at a point, Yes, you're right,

740
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,679
and it was. But I was at a point at

741
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,760
the time where I was looking for something serious and

742
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,320
all the bands that I auditioned for at the time

743
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,119
they were not They weren't serious, they weren't on it,

744
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,000
and he was yeah. So I was like, you know,

745
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,280
I've got I've got nothing to lose exactly exactly. Yeah, yeah,

746
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,320
to take it. But yeah, you're right, yeah, it's you know,

747
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,079
he had a big mohawk, he said, so you know

748
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,000
he you know, you know everyone. Yeah, so yeah, it

749
00:48:04,159 --> 00:48:07,440
was like this, who is this guy? Larger than life

750
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,119
like personality? But you know, but yeah, you're you're.

751
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 14: Did you saband like other bands that you've played in

752
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,800
were they similar in terms of the you know, your

753
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:26,719
vocal approach. You know, obviously it's it's intense, and did

754
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,679
you sing that way and other bands prior to this

755
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,360
or oh yeah, I mean my.

756
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:33,599
Speaker 6: It was.

757
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,599
Speaker 5: I think that was probably the I mean, it was

758
00:48:37,639 --> 00:48:40,679
still difficult to transition, but the easiest point of the

759
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,639
transition was the vocal style was still the same way.

760
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:46,679
I went from you know, scream singing to scream singing. Yeah,

761
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,119
so it was pretty accommodating in those terms.

762
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 14: Yeah. Oh, it's fascinated by that by singers who can

763
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:54,280
do that. Do you do you have to do anything

764
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,199
to kind of protect your throat? Like, do you do

765
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,280
you have any kind of a regimen.

766
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, just like any other vocal list, you

767
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:03,559
have to you have to watch what you do, you know,

768
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,880
prior and post, you know, performances. You have to make

769
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,880
sure you're hydrated, you know, tease things like that. I

770
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,760
normally steam my face and my I take like the

771
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,800
normal vapo steamerly use like when you're sick. So I

772
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,079
use that and it's like an instant hydrated or my

773
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,360
voice and like nasal passages and stuff. So I do that,

774
00:49:26,519 --> 00:49:29,119
and I normally drink some tea beforehand, I do some

775
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,480
warm ups and then get into it, and then afterwards,

776
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:34,639
I normally try to steam my voice, like when we're

777
00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:37,480
on tour especially, I try to steam my face before

778
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:38,159
I go to sleep.

779
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 14: Oh okay, sure, so if you do that before you

780
00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:41,800
go to sleep, when you wake up your.

781
00:49:42,159 --> 00:49:44,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little little bit, because I mean it all

782
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:47,320
depends on the the atmosphere of the club too, because

783
00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:50,719
they may be using steam machine fog machines. Like when

784
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,280
we were in Europe, smoking was allowed in clubs.

785
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 14: So that was really that was that was rough, I

786
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:57,719
can imagine. Yeah.

787
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 5: The thing is we haven't been used to it here

788
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,000
in the twenty plus years, right, going over there, just like, oh,

789
00:50:03,199 --> 00:50:04,000
I forgot about that.

790
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 7: They stuck us in the back the smoking room as

791
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:12,719
our keep your gear and all your cases and everything,

792
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,760
and you can hang out here in the smoking room.

793
00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:21,079
Yeah maybe a window. Horrendous rut.

794
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 5: I mean, no fault to them, surely the.

795
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 7: Culture we weren't prepared.

796
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, oh my god, I'm gonna die.

797
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 14: By the way, where do you guys record? Does Opus?

798
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:40,360
Does he have a recording studio or so he did.

799
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,519
Speaker 5: Or depending Like during COVID we were we were all

800
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:46,639
able to individually record on our own. Yeah, so we

801
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,400
can be able to record tracks like at home. But

802
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:53,239
during COVID we did that, and then we still went

803
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,920
in a little bit and did some in studio stuff

804
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,920
with Nicky Belmore with Dexter's lab down in Milford, Connecticut.

805
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:03,159
Oh okay, yeah, and we worked with him and most

806
00:51:03,159 --> 00:51:05,119
of the time we cut our tracks at home.

807
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 11: Okay.

808
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:11,119
Speaker 7: COVID it forced us to, you know, utilize this technology

809
00:51:11,199 --> 00:51:14,559
that was already there. But a lot of the tracks

810
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,559
on our last album were done like I would record

811
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,320
my bass tracks on my computer, like while I was

812
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,760
on vacation with my family or something, and I'd send

813
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:31,559
in bass tracks for a couple songs. Did you record yours?

814
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,039
Speaker 5: Yeah? No, No, I mean I only recorded a few live,

815
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,639
but most of the time I recorded them at home.

816
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 7: Dave did some tracks at home. Yeah, so we just

817
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,440
sent him sent the stems to Nikki. He'd mixed them

818
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,079
together and that would be the track. But this last

819
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,440
one no easy weigh out. He and I recorded the

820
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:56,159
bass like I recorded at his place, okay, okay, and

821
00:51:56,199 --> 00:51:58,119
then we sent at least for the bass, and then

822
00:51:58,159 --> 00:51:58,760
we sent that in.

823
00:51:59,039 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 14: Yeah.

824
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 7: So yeah, we've been It's like, I don't know, there

825
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,719
isn't really a There doesn't need to be a central

826
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,239
location for everything, you know.

827
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 14: So it's amazing, doesn't it to live in a time

828
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,480
where we have all these technology, we can do all

829
00:52:13,519 --> 00:52:14,679
this stuff easy.

830
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,119
Speaker 2: You know.

831
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 14: It comes up a lot on the show too, about

832
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,800
how you know, the pandemic was terrible, but you have

833
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,079
to find these silver linings where you can. And once

834
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,360
big silver lining is it did kind of force people

835
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,360
to be creative in terms of how they do things

836
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,440
and find ways to be creative they maybe hadn't considered before.

837
00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:33,039
Speaker 7: It created a new industry.

838
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 4: You know.

839
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,679
Speaker 7: It's amazing, Like and people unless you grew up in

840
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,840
an era where that was not possible. It's just to me,

841
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,039
it's it's crazy that I can record a track that

842
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,280
can literally like no easy way out. Like when I

843
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,440
was recording it and when I was coming up with

844
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,960
my base parts, you're not thinking of that. You're thinking

845
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,280
an end process, but you're not thinking of But it's

846
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,760
just crazy to me to record this in a house

847
00:53:02,199 --> 00:53:02,840
or a basement.

848
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:03,199
Speaker 16: Yeah.

849
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 7: Have it broadcast globally, Yeah, and sound pristine.

850
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 10: I know.

851
00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 5: Mike and I have talked about that many times, Like

852
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:10,760
on tour.

853
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 7: It's like, I love it.

854
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 5: We have the ability to be able to record anywhere

855
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,559
we want. Back in the day bands the lock that

856
00:53:17,679 --> 00:53:18,639
solves away for.

857
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 7: Big, big artists that could afford the equipment, you.

858
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 5: Know, yeah, exactly having an in home studio was like

859
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,480
a super privilege at that point.

860
00:53:28,599 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, available to anyone.

861
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, absolutely. Oh time goes quick. I wish we

862
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,159
had more, but I want to make sure. So uh

863
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,599
November two, it's the event is at Tafada and Lowell.

864
00:53:43,679 --> 00:53:45,400
It was originally supposed to be a Jewel but for

865
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,800
anyone who doesn't know, it's at Tafia and Lowell Swarmy

866
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,280
Fest Jenny and I will be there. Really looking forward

867
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:51,920
to seeing you guys.

868
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 5: I am so excited, Yeah, super excited, Thank you.

869
00:53:54,639 --> 00:53:57,039
Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, The's gonna be a bunch of great bands there.

870
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:00,719
What should people anything you want people to know about?

871
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,440
Obviously you want them to know that the new single

872
00:54:02,519 --> 00:54:05,159
is out, your cover of No Easy Way Out? And

873
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:10,039
what should people know else about? About what you guys

874
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:10,440
are doing?

875
00:54:11,559 --> 00:54:16,039
Speaker 7: Wow? Check us out on our social media feeds. We've

876
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:20,519
got some shows coming up that what the uh.

877
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 18: You got a couple of tours coming yeah, yeah, the

878
00:54:22,519 --> 00:54:24,880
tours with skin Lab, the skin Lab Tour, Yeah yeah,

879
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:30,920
that's going to be Northeast show January seventh, Northeast Region,

880
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:34,400
and our final date is January twelfth.

881
00:54:34,679 --> 00:54:37,199
Speaker 5: Is that the one in Albany. That's all one in Albany.

882
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,239
We start in Brooklyn on the seventh. We go Brooklyn,

883
00:54:42,119 --> 00:54:48,000
New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and then back up to Albany.

884
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:50,559
So hopefully listeners out there can be able to link

885
00:54:50,639 --> 00:54:52,079
up with us at some point in one of those

886
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:53,800
shows that I'd love to have you guys come out.

887
00:54:54,039 --> 00:54:57,679
Speaker 14: Yeah, excellent, excellent, and well we'll close out with Wasteland

888
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,000
and this you say you're an offer too. This was

889
00:55:01,079 --> 00:55:02,519
this one an Awarder was nominated for.

890
00:55:02,639 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we we were Actually we got nominated for

891
00:55:05,159 --> 00:55:07,440
two categories. We got nominated for New England Best Metal

892
00:55:07,519 --> 00:55:12,039
Band and also Best Music Video in Wasteland. This is

893
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:15,360
the one we filmed out in the Mojave Desert, California

894
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,320
for Wasteland Weekend.

895
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 14: Oh the video is wild.

896
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:19,559
Speaker 5: It looks like that was it.

897
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 14: I mean, was that as big a production as it

898
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,840
looks like. I mean, it's like it's like watching a

899
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:24,400
mini movie.

900
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 5: We were we had hooked up with another festival that

901
00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:32,239
was happening. We're playing, yeah, and uh yeah, our videographer

902
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,199
she you know, happened to be there. We got the

903
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,599
permissions and the rights to be able to film and wow,

904
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,800
everybody was with it. And it was kind of like

905
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,440
it was the last minute, spur of the moment thing

906
00:55:42,519 --> 00:55:45,119
and everybody was on board. So we just ran with

907
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,079
it and oh that's good. It just it was a

908
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:48,880
per It was a happy accident. Yeah.

909
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's that's that's amazing. That's amazing, great job. Yeah,

910
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,280
I recommend people check it out. The video for Wasteland.

911
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,760
All right, we gotta go, guys, thank you so much, Thanks.

912
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:00,559
Speaker 5: So much again. Sorry for being in the little bit late,

913
00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:03,119
but we love you guys, and check us out and we.

914
00:56:03,159 --> 00:56:07,079
Speaker 14: Will see you on November at HAFA and lolat Swarmy Fest.

915
00:56:07,679 --> 00:56:09,559
All right, very good, and uh if you missed any

916
00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:10,920
part of today's show, it'll be up in just a

917
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,760
little bit. But we will leave you with this. Check

918
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,079
this out. This is wasteland.

919
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:34,639
Speaker 19: This is dead by Wednesday, him on the crisis, falling

920
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:38,360
food and rising me the.

921
00:56:38,679 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 20: Flows Simons come to really yucky.

922
00:56:48,039 --> 00:56:53,679
Speaker 10: Along the lady, I'm down dog.

923
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 20: John's way.

924
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 5: I don't care what you're saying.

925
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:30,599
Speaker 10: That he said to me, wats on because I don't

926
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:31,480
care about stuff.

927
00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 6: I s's on time that waycut sometimes.

928
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 10: Just side that time.

929
00:57:36,159 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 11: All this time the.

930
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 10: Bupp set on like that.

931
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:40,639
Speaker 5: Time, best that time.

932
00:57:41,039 --> 00:57:41,519
Speaker 10: That's a lot.

933
00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:42,079
Speaker 1: I was washed.

934
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 16: I had all white that right time, John, So.

935
00:57:47,519 --> 00:57:48,639
Speaker 11: Why my father bah?

936
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:49,119
Speaker 6: All right?

937
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,199
Speaker 16: That's after five times on because I can't worry aback,

938
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,679
wear your go right up all right now.

939
00:57:55,719 --> 00:57:58,239
Speaker 10: That's all I can. I I worried about a bottle.

940
00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 6: Right now.

941
00:58:11,559 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 17: Wave over three miles of us and shoots to the

942
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,519
show from the returned to the Lands to us the.

943
00:58:25,639 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 7: Land of about a beauty sounds, a few.

944
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 10: Of the one where one together dream like that.

945
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 5: This is not real.

946
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:35,079
Speaker 7: Fighting for.

947
00:58:37,239 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 10: The fee, to fence.

948
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,519
Speaker 17: The fams, for other tod.

949
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:44,239
Speaker 6: For long

950
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 4: Y

