WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:09.960 Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes. Today, 2 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:12.240 I want to welcome back to the show, Mark Steves. 3 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:17.399 He is an independent thinker, conspiracy sleuthor, mystical explorer, and 4 00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:22.160 spiritual seeker. He has always questioned the official narrative, whether 5 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:25.800 it was from the classroom, on television, or the world 6 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:31.160 around him. He researches everything and anything that presents itself 7 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:34.280 to his intuition. Mark, welcome back. 8 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:37.880 How you doing excellent? Thanks for having me. It's always 9 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:40.159 a pleasure being here. Chris, how you Ben. 10 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:43.399 I'm excellent too, man. I always have a fun when 11 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:45.920 we're having conversations. I had a great time on your 12 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:48.799 show last time, and today I know we're going to 13 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:51.280 get into some awesome stuff. You send me an email 14 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:54.479 and some of the topics that you have here is 15 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:58.039 skull and Bones, and it's kind of, like you said, 16 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:02.079 a synchronistic version of what could be behind this and 17 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:04.760 some other fun projects that you're working on that we'll 18 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:07.599 get into if we have time, for sure. But for 19 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:10.480 the audience that may not be familiar with you, tell 20 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:13.200 us a little bit about yourself. What led you to 21 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:15.599 start the podcast and then what led you to start 22 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:17.719 your research into Skull and Bones. 23 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:22.560 M all right, cool. So mystic mark is how I 24 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:25.159 refer to myself on my podcast. You don't have to 25 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:28.239 call me that. My podcast is called my family thinks 26 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:32.959 I'm crazy. And it's a, you know, sort of an 27 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:36.519 embodiment of all of the topics that I've been fascinated 28 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:41.120 with and have been just sort of armchair researching. And 29 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:45.280 now I have the great, you know, honor and privilege 30 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:47.879 of interviewing people who have spent a lot of time 31 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:51.840 researching a lot of really amazing different things, and even 32 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:55.799 just people like yourself who do similar things, people who 33 00:01:55.879 --> 00:02:00.560 experience weird stuff like yourself. And you know, I am 34 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:04.319 no stranger to that world. I've had a few strange experiences, 35 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:08.199 and some of them have led me to research Skull 36 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:12.000 and Bones because I live in Connecticut, not too far 37 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:16.240 away from New Haven, Connecticut, where Skull and Bones is located. 38 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:21.840 So just being a college student, I ran into one 39 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:25.280 person in particular who filled me in on a story 40 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:28.159 that goes all the way back to the eighteen hundreds 41 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:32.719 concerning Geronimo and the desecration of his grave by someone 42 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:39.080 that everyone's heard of, Prescott Bush, the grandfather of George W. 43 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:43.159 Bush and the father of George H. W. Bush. So 44 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:48.960 you know this sort of troik of brilliant American people there, right, 45 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:53.360 the Bush clan or dynasty, and they all have made 46 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:57.000 a strong impression on not just American history, but New 47 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:01.520 Haven's history as well. And I found myself in the 48 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:04.479 former home of George H. W. Bush on the day 49 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:07.400 he died not too long ago. I think he died 50 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:12.120 it like a year before the whole plandemic situation happened. 51 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:15.080 I think he died in like twenty eighteen, and I 52 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:18.280 was just delivering pastries like I did every Tuesday morning. 53 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:21.759 I looked down at the newspaper and boom, it says, hey, 54 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:25.639 George H. W. Bush passed away today, former resident of 55 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:28.919 New Haven, eighty eight Hillhouse Avenue. And that's exactly where 56 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:31.240 I was. I'm like, eighty eight Hillhouse Avenue. I've been 57 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:33.759 coming here every Tuesday and didn't I never knew that 58 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:36.000 George H. W. Bush used to live in this place. 59 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:40.400 It had become a US I'm sorry, a Yale University 60 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:44.560 Economics department by then, so it just sort of had 61 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:47.759 the probably the outside shell and maybe a little bit 62 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:54.719 of the original decor but yeah, that synchronosity, synchronicity among 63 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:59.960 others sort of snowballed into me eventually starting my podcast. 64 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:03.560 And as you know, once you have a podcast going, 65 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:05.879 it gives you, you know, not just a whole bunch 66 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:08.800 of ideas, because you're just constantly talking to other people 67 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:12.360 who are in that flow, that mindset of you know, 68 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:16.839 discovery and exploration. So yeah, I figured, you know, I've 69 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:21.000 been talking to a lot of different researchers, authors and 70 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:25.240 even just you know, people who put together presentations on YouTube. 71 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:27.399 I mean, it's as simple as that, and I want 72 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:29.920 to kind of do sort of a little bit of 73 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:33.839 all of those things. I don't know how skilled I 74 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:36.720 am at writing, but it's a skill that i'd like 75 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:39.439 to practice and hone in on. So yeah, I'm going 76 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:43.560 to start with a couple of things that I mentioned earlier, 77 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:45.720 But when it comes to Skull and Bones, I think 78 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:52.120 the idea ultimately that we've decided myself and Jay Hanahan 79 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:55.079 from the How to Kill a Sacred Cow podcast, he 80 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:58.240 came down to one of the tours I gave of 81 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:00.600 the New Haven area and he was like, Yeah, I 82 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:02.439 think you really have something here, man. You know, he 83 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:04.560 filmed a little bit of it. He's like, we should 84 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:07.079 really put like a full length thing together, because his 85 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:10.199 initial intention was to just film some stuff for social 86 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:13.040 media and just be like, ooh, skull and Bones, you know. 87 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:15.480 But as I was giving the tour, he's like, yeah, 88 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:18.519 we really have something here, and I'm like, well, what 89 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:21.879 could we do? And I had just listened to really 90 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:25.560 fantastic podcast called Penny Royal, which takes a sort of 91 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:29.240 narrative approach to this sort of information over a course 92 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:32.839 of different episodes in a series. So I think that's 93 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:37.800 eventually gonna sort of become what this project is, fleshed 94 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:40.560 out to be something like that, you know, not you know, 95 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:44.040 exactly like Penny Royal. Obviously, we're sort of dealing with 96 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:46.560 a different area of the country, a whole other set 97 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:50.120 of topics, but I do take a lot of inspiration 98 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:54.160 from that show. And yeah, I think that's a really 99 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:59.120 cool innovation in the podcasting space, you know. So I've 100 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:01.800 been doing stuff like that, ye just trying to diversify, 101 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.360 I guess, but also finally have the time to work 102 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:06.560 on some things like this. 103 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:09.560 Well, man, that's a hell of a synchronicity with the 104 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:12.560 whole Scull and Bones thing, and I can't wait to 105 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:15.279 get into this and I'm actually gonna learn a lot 106 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:19.399 today because I have not done much research into the 107 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:23.399 actual Skull and Bones Secret Society. I've you know, secret 108 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:26.120 society is in general, sure, but I don't really know 109 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:31.120 much about this particular group and you know, the history 110 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:33.399 and how it's connected to some of the things that 111 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:36.199 you're gonna talk about tonight. So, like I said, I'm stoked, 112 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:37.519 I'm ready to learn some stuff. 113 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:38.519 So for the. 114 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:41.920 Audience that may not be familiar with the Skull and 115 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:45.399 Bones Society, could you just explain maybe a little bit 116 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:48.839 brief history about them and you know where they are 117 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:49.959 up until now. 118 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:54.639 Yeah. So, Scull and Bones was founded in eighteen thirty 119 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:59.560 two by two gentlemen, one Alfonso Taft and another William 120 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:04.839 Huntington Russell and after their sort of post junior year 121 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:09.399 trips abroad studying in Germany. After they had spent the 122 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:14.399 first three years of their college time studying at Yale, 123 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:17.399 of course, they came back to Yale University for their 124 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:22.439 senior year, and the assumption is that they joined something 125 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:28.079 in Germany, which inspired a Skull and Bones chapter number 126 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:32.639 two at Yale University so the alleged story, and this 127 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:36.160 is pieced together by people like Anthony Sutton, who I 128 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:39.160 recommend his books on Skull and Bones. He's done a 129 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:43.519 lot of groundbreaking research into Skull and Bones. But that's 130 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:45.519 where it starts. And you got to keep in mind 131 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:48.720 that at that period in American history, we had just 132 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:54.800 had the Morgan Affair, the crisis that created America's first 133 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:59.560 third political party, which is the Anti Mason Party. Right, 134 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:04.920 So this muckraking journalism of oh, the Freemasons are the worst, 135 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:07.879 They're the evil, whether that's true or not, whichever stance 136 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:10.879 you take on that. What happened because of that was 137 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:14.879 a lot of these groups went underground or forfeited their secrecy. 138 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:19.959 So we had the beginning of groups like Phi Beta 139 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:24.839 Kappa or Delta Epsilon, whatever. All of these sort of 140 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:28.639 fraternal organizations that made their way into the college system 141 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:32.639 became what they were around this time because initially secret 142 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:36.679 societies were fashionable. So secret societies were a part of 143 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:40.759 mimicking the Greek system, right, the Greek system of learning, 144 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:46.720 the mystery schools. As the universities were created, they had 145 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:52.480 these mystery schools that came up to initiate those who 146 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:58.480 were maybe better suited for the esoteric information than the 147 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:02.879 average farm farmer's son or you know, ship captain's daughter. 148 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:03.159 Right. 149 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:06.240 So this is the kind of America they were creating, 150 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:11.279 very slowly but surely, separating the elite from the layman. 151 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:11.759 Right. 152 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:14.480 And you see that happen in the universities with this 153 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:21.120 secret society model, which shifts after the Masonic Crisis for 154 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:24.919 lack of a better word, and they all go underground 155 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:28.879 or like I said, become public organizations. Hence we have 156 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:32.320 groups like the Shriners today, or the Elks lodge or 157 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:35.240 the Lions Club. So a lot of these groups, you know, 158 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:39.279 sort of find their history rooted at this moment in 159 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:42.840 time where groups had to make a decision do we 160 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:46.840 go underground or do we go public? And even the 161 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:50.200 ones that went public still maintained a level of secrecy 162 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:54.759 which lent itself to further on in history. I mean, 163 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:56.879 this is all pre Civil War. You got to keep 164 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:59.960 in mind, Skull and Bones was created pre Civil War. 165 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:04.159 So America was an entirely different place back then, and 166 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:08.320 we were fighting battles on the Western Front. We were 167 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:11.480 fighting the Native Americans. When Scull and Bones was founded. 168 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:17.039 The founder of Scull and Bones, William Russell, went on 169 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:21.320 to found the National Guard in Connecticut, the first National 170 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:27.159 Guard here in Connecticut. So they've had a military excuse me, 171 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:34.960 they've had a heavy military association from the beginning. Not 172 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:39.240 to mention. This summer abroad that was spent in Germany 173 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:42.720 was spent at the University of Berlin, where a certain 174 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:47.919 philosopher named Hegel was very prominent. He was very inspirational 175 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:51.840 and Hegelian dialect is something that people in the conspiracy 176 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:54.600 community they might be familiar with that phrase. It's the 177 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:59.519 concept of problem reaction solution. You create the problem, to 178 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:05.000 foam the reaction, and then impose a pre ordained solution. 179 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:11.000 This was born in the Hegelian school of thought, which 180 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:16.080 was very much influenced by the Austrian Prussian War. I 181 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:19.960 mean Switzerland as well has this sort of same milieu 182 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:24.080 going on. So these are the influences at play. They're 183 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:29.679 coming into what is ostensibly a very Protestant organization, right. 184 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:34.360 New Haven was founded by not just Protestants, but Puritans, 185 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:40.399 like very devout non Catholic Christians, right, and they were 186 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:44.559 also believers in the Book of Revelations. To a t. 187 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:49.919 They even built New Haven's city square so that it 188 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:52.879 was laid out in nine squares. In the center square 189 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:56.879 had enough room to fit exactly one hundred and forty 190 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:59.600 four thousand people, just like it says in the Book 191 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:03.759 of revel Relations. So we see laid into the foundation 192 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:08.559 of New Haven, this apocalyptic idea, this very sort of 193 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:12.240 I mean New Haven New Heaven. Right, this is a 194 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:19.159 not a coincidence either. So this is a perfect incubator 195 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:21.600 for a group like Skull and Bones. You know, they 196 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:25.759 came in there to Yale University, a university that was 197 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:30.080 you know, Christianizing the savage, right, because we have, like 198 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:33.240 I said, these wars going on on the Western Front. 199 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:36.440 Well that war started on the East coast and made 200 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:42.320 its way across the west, and groups like Yale University 201 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:46.440 were a part of this movement to create the New Atlantis. 202 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:49.039 And in order to create the New Atlantis, they had 203 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:57.759 to dissuade future inhabitants of knowing a history that is 204 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:04.200 anything but they're creation, right, So their alternate timeline that 205 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:09.759 they created when they landed Christopher Columbus, this whole mythos 206 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:14.080 the first Thanksgiving, This is how we see you know 207 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:19.080 this sort of mental virus spreading across America, and it 208 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:22.320 starts with groups like Harvard University. It starts with groups 209 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:26.720 like Yale University and the people that were in power 210 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:30.399 positions at the time of the founding of these two schools. 211 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:34.039 And from those two schools we have the establishment of 212 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:38.720 every other Ivy League school from Dartmouth to Cornell to Princeton. 213 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:43.039 And it's no coincidence that most of them, aside from 214 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:47.559 Dartmouth and Cornell, are all situated on the same ancient 215 00:13:47.639 --> 00:13:51.600 indigenous lay line, the Acadian lay line, which I know 216 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:54.320 you've spoken to Peter Shampoo, so you might be familiar 217 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:58.000 with his work in the Acadian lay line there. So 218 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:04.440 what I'm supposing, what I'm suspicious of, is that there's 219 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:07.840 a sort of carryover from the old world of this 220 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:12.559 concept of building a new Rome or you know, conquering 221 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:15.679 the Pagans, Right, you have to in order to conquer 222 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:19.159 the Pagans, you have to build the new religious site 223 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:21.919 on the old religious site. Right. So this is what 224 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:25.120 happened here in the United States. They took the mounds, 225 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:29.480 they gritted them, they destroyed them. A la ross Ben's work, 226 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:34.200 and where I'm sort of going with this research is 227 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:37.840 I think maybe Harvard and Yale and these groups sort 228 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:44.480 of created the societies that did those practices. The Smithsonians, 229 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:47.759 you know, these museum groups that went and collected all 230 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:52.799 of these artifacts, and they're using those sacred objects to 231 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:59.960 take the ancient spiritual ancestral inheritance away from the red 232 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.200 man and supplant it. 233 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:02.960 Right. 234 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:09.120 And we have the largest concentration of Petrick lyfts on 235 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:12.440 the East coast in the Susquehanna River where I was 236 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:16.759 just this past weekend, and one thing that really shocked 237 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:19.919 me going there, and I didn't see the Petrick glyphs 238 00:15:19.919 --> 00:15:22.240 this time. I do plan on visiting them one day. 239 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:24.840 But we went to the Susquehanna and we met with 240 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:28.480 somebody who has visited the Petrick lifts several times. And 241 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:30.879 the story he told is that the Petric glyfts on 242 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:38.120 the Susquehanna River have multiple different cultures. They have Asian cultures, 243 00:15:38.159 --> 00:15:43.600 they have African cultures, they have indigenous American culture's writings 244 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:46.879 in this stone, in this piece of granite that's in 245 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:51.120 this ancient river. And take this story for what it's worth. 246 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:55.080 It came from somebody who identifies as a leftist, so 247 00:15:55.639 --> 00:15:59.000 it would prepare people might get offended. But according to 248 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:02.519 this story, the white race didn't show up. They never 249 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:05.879 showed up to this patrick Lyft site when the ancient 250 00:16:05.960 --> 00:16:10.240 meeting place, you know. So whatever that's worth mythologically or symbolically, 251 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:15.720 it's no coincidence that this site is not recognized by archaeologists. 252 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:18.879 They don't recognize it as the largest concentration of patrick 253 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:22.279 Lyft's east of the Mississippi. They don't want people to 254 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:26.519 know how advanced the native cultures were on the east coast. 255 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:31.639 So this is part of what you know, the university 256 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:34.399 system has helped to do. But I think as time 257 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:39.559 grew and their organizations grew, they took some of their 258 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:44.519 more arcane and less you know, public things that they did, 259 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:47.679 and they put them underground and delegated them to groups 260 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:51.279 like Skull and Bones. And we have newspaper articles that 261 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:55.600 I've come across when using archive dot org that talk 262 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:58.759 about not just Geronimo's skull getting taken back to Skull 263 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:03.039 and Bones, but other historical figures like the Apache Kid, 264 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:09.119 who was another outlaw who you know, probably gave the 265 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:12.559 US Army a hurtin and they had a big bounty 266 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:16.279 on his head. And these Chicago businessmen went down on 267 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:19.640 a hunting party and they happened to run across him, 268 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:22.880 realized he was an outlaw, and they snuck up on 269 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:24.880 him at night and killed him. And then they sent 270 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:28.880 his skull and femur bones to Yale University. And this 271 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:33.480 is in like the eighteen fifties. This isn't very short after, 272 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:36.359 you know, or it's not very long after Skull and 273 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:40.279 Bones has started, So it seems that something is going on. 274 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:45.160 It's not just Native American people that have their skulls 275 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:47.680 in the tomb at Skull and Bones in New Haven 276 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:51.519 on High Street. Martin van Buren, who allegedly is the 277 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:56.319 only president who's not related genealogically to the other presidents. 278 00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:01.079 He's the guy who created the phrase okay, which I 279 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:04.160 think people use that phrase every day and they probably 280 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:06.960 don't know where it comes from, but that came from him, okay. 281 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:12.880 And then there's also someone named the Russian Lady who 282 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:15.359 has a bar named after her here in New Haven. 283 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:18.759 Not to mention, Geronimo also has a bar named after 284 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:22.240 him in New Haven, a bar called Geronimo's of course, 285 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:26.279 And and yeah, I mean, the list goes on and on. 286 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:30.319 I don't know if there's a complete list out there anywhere, 287 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:34.279 but you know, the legends, the myths are. There are 288 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:39.960 multiple important figures from American history whose skulls now reside 289 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:43.119 in the tomb. So why are they collecting these skulls? 290 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:48.160 You know what sort of occult practices would maybe detail 291 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:51.400 something like this. You know, do we have historical evidence 292 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:56.160 for other groups using similar you know, things like using 293 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:59.720 skulls for this similar things? And I found yes there are, 294 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:02.759 But maybe before I keep going out, lets you ask 295 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:03.599 a question or two. 296 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:07.799 No, that's super fascinating. It makes me wonder about the 297 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:13.079 how close a relationship, say Yale in some of these 298 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:17.559 universities have with institutions like the Smithsonian who have been 299 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:22.960 known to have covered up certain instances and evidence about 300 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:26.039 indigenous people from our history. And not only that, you know, 301 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:30.200 the giants and other things that they have completely rewritten. 302 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:36.079 Well, yeah, we have three figures. Daniel Gilman, who started 303 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:40.079 John Hopkins University. He started the university, and when I 304 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:43.920 say started, I should say he was the first president, 305 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:46.960 because there are multiple people that go into creating an 306 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:50.880 organization like that, So he was the first president of 307 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:54.960 John Hopkins University, the first president of the University of California, 308 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:59.559 his peer, his fellow graduate, Andrew White, was the founder 309 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:02.839 of the Peace Body Society, among a bunch of others, 310 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:05.279 I mean too many for me to recall. But these 311 00:20:05.319 --> 00:20:10.359 guys that graduated from Yale, and specifically Skull and Bones 312 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:15.640 between the years of eighteen forty through the nineteen forties. 313 00:20:16.359 --> 00:20:19.920 I mean, these were the movers and shakers. They controlled 314 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:23.319 everything we're talking about, you know, not just the military. 315 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:26.880 We're talking about the oil industry. You know, we're talking 316 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:31.079 about all of the East Coast connected families sending their 317 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:34.200 children through Scull and Bones. And Skull and Bones is 318 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:37.920 just one. I mean, there's nine secret societies within Yale. 319 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:42.200 There's also its mirrored organization. You have Skull and Bones, 320 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:44.400 S and B. Right, well, you also have B and 321 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:47.559 S Book and Snake. So Book and Snake is on 322 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:50.079 the opposite side of the High Street. So we have 323 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:53.880 the beginning of High Street, which starts at the Native 324 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:59.200 American Cultural Center. You go past down, past the Starbucks, 325 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:01.680 past the Art Museum. It's a one way street and 326 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:04.400 on your left you'll see High Street. You'll see the 327 00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:08.440 tomb right, and then you keep going and the road ends. 328 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:11.119 You have to take a right turn onto another one 329 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:14.319 way street, but there's a walking path that continues and 330 00:21:14.359 --> 00:21:17.640 it goes past Yale's Law School, it goes past the 331 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:22.519 Book and Snake Tomb, which there are several tombs in 332 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:25.880 New Haven. They're classified as tombs because they don't have windows. 333 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:29.279 They're buildings without windows, so they have sort of like 334 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:33.079 slits to let light in, but they don't have traditional windows. 335 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:35.680 And at the end of this street that Scull and 336 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:42.400 Bones's Tomb is situated on is the first cemetery in America. 337 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:46.279 So sure there were burying grounds, for sure, there were 338 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:48.759 like places where people were buried, but this was the 339 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:53.920 first official cemetery with a paved sort of path. It 340 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:56.039 was like the idea was that they were creating a 341 00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:59.160 garden of the dead. Right, there would be trees, there 342 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:01.519 would be plants, there would be a path for people 343 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:05.440 to walk, and every plot would have its own person 344 00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:08.759 buried in it. As opposed to before where they were 345 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:11.400 saving space and burying people on top of each other, 346 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:15.960 burying families together. This New Haven Cemetery was the first 347 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:19.519 of its kind in America to be sort of like 348 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:24.400 an elite cemetery, right, you know, you'd have like very 349 00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:28.680 wealthy people spending exuberant amounts of money on their gravestones. 350 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:31.160 And to this day, you know, it has some really 351 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:37.799 strange crips and tombs and obelisks dotting the different grave plots. 352 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:39.920 And this is right at the end of the road 353 00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:44.920 from Skull and Bones. And we're told that Yale University 354 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:48.160 has a tunnel system. So my thought has always been 355 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:51.960 maybe there using these tombs to enter into the tunnel 356 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:55.480 and then they walk around the tunnels under the street. 357 00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:58.039 I don't know, havn't gone that far yet. I haven't 358 00:22:58.079 --> 00:23:02.480 got splunking under New Hay, But it just feels to 359 00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:06.480 me like when you see this nine square grid, the 360 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:10.000 way it's laid out, and I'll show you a screenshot 361 00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:14.400 or a screen share if you'll allow me to, because 362 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:17.680 it's really fascinating and it brings to mind sort of 363 00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:21.359 type of sigil number magic. Have you ever seen the 364 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:25.640 magic square? Yeah, so a magic square when you put 365 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:28.440 the numerals one through nine in it, no matter how 366 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:32.440 you slice it, it'll always equal the same sum. And 367 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:37.200 this sum happens to be fifteen. Well, some people have 368 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:41.920 said that fifteen is supposed to be connected to Saturn. 369 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:46.839 One plus five equals six. We have multiple sort of 370 00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:50.599 layers of three three times six, six sixty six. So 371 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:54.759 I'm not exactly an expert or you know, someone who 372 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:57.880 goes too deeply on Jamatria, but this is there for 373 00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:03.880 somebody to decipher themselves. Also, you see this placement of 374 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:08.160 the numbers. This wouldn't make sense, right. We're looking at 375 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:13.519 a map that is oriented west on the top side 376 00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:16.240 of the map. Right in old times, they wouldn't orient 377 00:24:16.359 --> 00:24:19.000 them like we do today with the north being on 378 00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:21.599 the top. They'd orient it with the west being on 379 00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:25.039 the top. Right. So this is looking at new Haven 380 00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:28.920 from a sort of odd view, a sort of side view, 381 00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:32.960 I guess. And you would think that they would put 382 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:35.839 the numbers in it one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 383 00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:37.960 eight nine if that's all it was. If it was 384 00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:41.319 just a grid meant to designate different parts of the city, 385 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:43.680 why would the numbers be all over the place like 386 00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:48.000 this if it's not a sigil. And there's evidence of 387 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:51.680 this because the only square in New Haven to this 388 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:54.839 day that has a name is ninth Square, and it's 389 00:24:54.920 --> 00:25:00.039 right here, which would be counterintuitive. If you were just 390 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.440 numbering them in numerical order, you wouldn't put the nine there. 391 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:05.559 You would put it in a corner because that's where 392 00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:10.119 the number sequence ends. So that's where I think some 393 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:13.160 sort of sigil magic is going on. And the guy 394 00:25:13.200 --> 00:25:18.200 who laid out John, or laid out New Haven's nine 395 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:21.839 square grid, was named John Brockett. He was educated at Cambridge. 396 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:26.559 He's related to a royal knight. He was a Connecticut 397 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:31.240 General Assembly representative, and he also helped settle disputes between 398 00:25:31.400 --> 00:25:35.519 Indians and settlers. So not to mention, he was a 399 00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:39.359 surgeon as well, which in those days was synonymous with 400 00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:42.680 a shaman. Right, So like what we would consider a shaman, 401 00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:45.759 what we would consider a witch doctor a medicine man. 402 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:50.160 It's the same thing as like a folk healer. They 403 00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:54.359 were all doing very similar things. And I mean, is 404 00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:58.559 it a coincidence that Yale University and Harvard have huge 405 00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:02.400 medical schools, you know? I mean they come to this 406 00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:07.640 new world, they absorb all the native consciousness's knowledge of plants, 407 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:12.519 and then they go and boil them down alchemica, alchemized, 408 00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:15.319 you know, these plants and turn them into like little 409 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:19.240 pills you know, and hook people on drugs and not 410 00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:23.519 to mention like the actual drug angle that Yale University 411 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:27.680 was founded and named after a guy named Eli Yale, 412 00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:31.799 Elihu Yale, who is a member of the Dutch East 413 00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:35.160 India Company, a governor of the Dutch East India Company, 414 00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:38.200 a very wealthy guy. And that's drug trafficking right there. 415 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:40.799 Those guys were going to China getting opium and bringing 416 00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:42.759 it back to Europe and America. 417 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:45.920 So, man, I love this research. It kind of it 418 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:49.799 goes back to to to kind of prove the notion 419 00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:56.160 that our forefathers were deeply involved in culled rituals magic. 420 00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:00.400 They had advanced knowledge of things like lay line and 421 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:05.480 energies and sigil magic. And you know, again how deeply 422 00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:09.960 involved were our forefathers. And you know, we have arguments 423 00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:13.480 was for was it nefarious? Was it for control, mind 424 00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:15.920 control and enslavement of the race or did they have 425 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.480 a different idea in mind? What do you think about that? 426 00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:20.799 Well? 427 00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:25.559 I think they were they were trying to carve out 428 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:28.359 a new Atlantis. I think they had a lot of 429 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:32.599 information going back thousands of years about what the new 430 00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:35.160 world was and they just gave us this impression that 431 00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:37.240 it was new. You know, we still call it the 432 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.279 New World versus the Old World, and really, I mean, 433 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:44.880 ancient history here goes back just as far as it 434 00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:48.720 does anywhere else on the planet. You know, if you 435 00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:51.839 look at the megaliths, the petroglyphs, I mean, and you 436 00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:55.720 start to date some of the archaeological finds that they 437 00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.759 have here on the North American continent, it's pretty obvious 438 00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.640 that people have been living in North America for a 439 00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:05.160 really long time, and South America seems even longer they 440 00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:08.799 were living there, which is counterintuitive because we're told that 441 00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:13.480 they all traveled over the Bearing Straight, which so many 442 00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:17.200 alternative researchers above my pedigree have pointed out, you know, 443 00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:22.279 ballacies to that narrative. So yeah, I'm pretty comfortable assuming 444 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:27.000 and supposing that the English, the Dutch, the Spanish, they 445 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:29.440 all knew what was going on in the New World 446 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:32.200 and formulated a plan. You know, we have this story 447 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.480 of the Spanish sort of coming on a very auspicious 448 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:43.599 day wearing feathers, and you know the people there who 449 00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:46.400 they came up to, I can't remember whether it was 450 00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:51.000 the Aztec or the Maya, but they saw these people 451 00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:53.680 and they thought, oh, these are our gods. Look they 452 00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:57.559 have metal, scaly heads and feathers coming out. This is 453 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:00.559 the plume serpent, you know. And I just I feel like, 454 00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:05.799 you know, that's too strange to be a coincidence. Whoever Cortes, 455 00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:08.599 I think it was he knew what he was doing 456 00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:11.240 when he put those feathers in his helmet. They knew 457 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:13.400 to do that. They knew to dress a certain way 458 00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:17.720 because they were looking for gold. And I don't think 459 00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:23.480 gold is strictly of monetary value. I think it has 460 00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:28.519 a very clear technological value. Even in like our modern age. 461 00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:32.839 We're told that gold does really amazing things in space 462 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.079 crafts and whatnot, if you believe in space. I don't know. 463 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:39.160 I just thought that was strange considering all the ancient 464 00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:41.480 alien stuff we hear about, right, and then we have 465 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.480 all this gold in South America. So they knew about 466 00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:49.519 the situation in South and North America. There were Norse 467 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:53.359 trades that went on, you know, the Iroquois Confederation, the 468 00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:58.960 Algonquin Confederation up in the northeast. They had similar dialects 469 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:02.720 as the people who lived in Scandinavia and Ireland. So 470 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:06.400 all this evidence that the Old World and the New 471 00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:10.960 World have been connected way before fourteen ninety two, right. 472 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:14.920 I think that's really why they did this. You know, 473 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:19.559 they had to rewrite history in order to justify it legally, 474 00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:23.839 in order to justify it with God and whatever that 475 00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:26.559 means to them. Because I'm not a Christian in the 476 00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:31.799 same way like Francis Bacon, or like the Jamestown settlers 477 00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:35.720 or the you know, Massachusetts Plymouth Bay settlers, Like they 478 00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:41.160 were a totally different type of spirituality than I am, 479 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:44.920 in the sense that we have a more modern, universal, 480 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:51.319 sort of overarching, kind of broad picture of many different spiritualities. 481 00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:54.200 They didn't have as many, So when they came here, 482 00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:59.680 they had a very biased opinion of what the native 483 00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:02.799 conciousness was and what they were doing, and that made 484 00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:06.079 for a lot of tragedy and conflict, and you know, 485 00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:09.200 there's no reconciling that. I don't want to become an 486 00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:13.359 apologist or even like a heroicist making the Native Americans 487 00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:15.799 out to be more than they were. I'm really just 488 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:19.359 trying to see what the truth is so we can 489 00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:24.720 raise the awareness of this new Atlantis plan and take 490 00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:27.839 it away from those who are trying to anchor it 491 00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:31.359 in low vibration, and we can anchor it in a higher, 492 00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:37.440 more resonant organic in the sense that it is cohesive 493 00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.160 with the natural world. I think that's how the natural 494 00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:44.240 world normally works. It is a sort of suffering that 495 00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:48.359 creates growth. So it's like, these bad guys create this 496 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:51.319 really bad system to enslave us all, and then the 497 00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.200 good guys come and flip that system upside down, and 498 00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:57.319 the system actually ends up helping everybody for some time, 499 00:31:57.599 --> 00:31:59.839 and then the bad guys take it over again. But hey, 500 00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.480 nothing's new under the sun, right, It's a constant cycle. 501 00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.640 Yes, it does seem to be cyclical in that manner. 502 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.160 And I want to go back to the kind of 503 00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:15.440 secret anatomy of certain cities and places that seem to 504 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:19.519 have certain mystical properties about them. I've come to learn 505 00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.519 through many different researchers that are there are many cities 506 00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:26.359 across just the United States that have these this kind 507 00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:31.039 of secret anatomy, This Masonic build and all these secret 508 00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:35.200 symbolisms throughout the streets, throughout the monuments, throughout the buildings. 509 00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:39.480 It's all interconnected in some way. Probably have underground shit 510 00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:42.279 going on there that we don't know about. But they 511 00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:46.720 definitely knew how to take advantage of the layout of 512 00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:50.559 certain cities to where it could have magical properties. 513 00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:55.279 Right right, Yeah, And I love that you use that 514 00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.799 phrase hidden anatomy of a city. I had never phrased 515 00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.519 it that way. That's a really brilliant way to put it. 516 00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:04.720 Well, I actually stole that from my friend Robert Homrich, 517 00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.519 who wrote a book about the hidden anatomy of Washington, 518 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.279 d C. And all the symbolisms there. So I can't 519 00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:12.599 take credit for that, but thank you. But yeah, he 520 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.359 was just recently on We're talking about that too. But 521 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.720 it was a brilliant presentation about all the occult symbolism 522 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.720 and all the connections between the layout of everything in Washington, 523 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:27.359 d C. Is very fascinating, and I'm sure this applies 524 00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:29.720 to many cities across the United States. 525 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:33.839 Undoubtedly, and I appreciate you bringing that to my attention. 526 00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:37.359 I'm going to check that interview out, and I hope 527 00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:42.200 people listening do too, because it's actually very much connected. 528 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.920 I mean, Washington, d C. Is on that Katie and La. 529 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:49.480 People wonder why it's sort of oriented as a diamond 530 00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.359 instead of just like a flat out square north south. 531 00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:56.119 I think that points to that same thing we were 532 00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:59.599 touching on earlier with like maps used to be oriented differently. 533 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:04.119 But I've also seen Peter Shampoo's work and it looks 534 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.680 like that Akkadian lay just goes right through the middle 535 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:11.199 of the square, straight through the square, dividing it into 536 00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:16.519 equal halves. So maybe they're orienting it that way. In 537 00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:20.760 New Haven there is a tall building. I think it's 538 00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:24.000 a banking building, like Key Bank has their bank in 539 00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.000 there now and they have their logo on the side, 540 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:29.920 but it hasn't always been theirs. And on top of 541 00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:34.480 it is an exact replica of the three pyramids at 542 00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:38.119 Teotia Kan. Right, you have these three pyramids next to 543 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:41.440 each other. Well on the roof of this building, overlooking 544 00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:44.719 the new Haven Green that I described earlier has enough 545 00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.559 room for one hundred and forty four thousand souls to 546 00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:51.960 be you know, saved in the last coming right above 547 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:56.719 it is this rooftop which has you know, just straight 548 00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:59.800 up three pyramids. I mean, you can't miss it when 549 00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:03.199 you look at it. And I've never really made the 550 00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:07.039 connection until Peter pointed it out because he's been on 551 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:09.239 this lay line stuff for a long time. But one 552 00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:11.920 thing I've always wondered about with Haven, And I'll share 553 00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:15.360 my screen again and show you one more thing. Is 554 00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.519 there these interesting like walking paths in New Haven on 555 00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:24.599 the green and they're sort of shaped like pentagrams. So 556 00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:27.719 I was wondering, like, oh, is this a pentagram? You know, 557 00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.800 skull and bones, satanic you know, YadA YadA. But I 558 00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:35.760 as much as they look like pentagrams, I'm almost wondering 559 00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.440 now if in the same way that the whole city 560 00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:42.480 is a nine square grid like this, maybe the sigil 561 00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:47.440 is using those paths to connect different values that each 562 00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:50.280 square has, right, So they're sort of like tracing it 563 00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:56.000 across the center area and making a larger pattern that 564 00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:58.840 you can kind of like put over the walking paths 565 00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.000 and be like, oh, okay, that makes sense, kind of 566 00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:05.159 like fitting in a puzzle piece, right. I Mean, it's 567 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.559 not as easy to see in this picture because of 568 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.159 the trees, but you can kind of see there. The 569 00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:14.239 paths go all the way across the park on both sides, 570 00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:16.920 and on the other side of the park is three 571 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:19.599 churches that have been there since pretty much the beginning 572 00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:24.440 of the settlement, and at its founding, New Haven was 573 00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:28.599 the wealthiest colony to that date in America to be founded, 574 00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.360 so it's always had a sort of elite air to it. 575 00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:34.880 And then not to mention this third church right here, 576 00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:39.920 the Trinity Church, This is a crypt. The whole of 577 00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:43.639 the green has bodies buried underneath it. And underneath this 578 00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:49.159 church they preserved the original cemetery floor because you know, 579 00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.199 they kept adding dirt, adding dirt to the green and 580 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:58.000 raising it. And now recently there was a hurricane and 581 00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:01.920 a tree was taken over and a skeleton was brought 582 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:03.760 up from the roots of the tree as it was 583 00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:06.559 knocked over, So that that gives you an idea. There's 584 00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:10.239 I think they wrote there's like six thousand bodies estimated 585 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.599 to be buried underneath the green. And you might have 586 00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:15.960 seen in that picture in the lower right hand corner, 587 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:19.199 like they do music festivals all summer on that green. 588 00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.920 And my girlfriend Tara, before we started dating, she actually 589 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.880 had like a vision on the green, which we talk 590 00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.280 about a little bit in this project I'm working on. 591 00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:33.519 But yeah, it's really strange, man Like, I don't think 592 00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:37.800 that it's a coincidence that they build places like this 593 00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:42.679 with dead bodies underneath it. They're using their souls to 594 00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:46.880 like fuel the energy somehow like a necromantic temple. 595 00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:51.599 You know, man, that is crazy, man, I want to 596 00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:55.559 go back to the actual skull and Bones and other fraturners. 597 00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:02.079 He's In general, they obviously seem to not only attract 598 00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:07.320 a certain type of individual, mostly psychopathic, but they seem 599 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:12.679 to you know, probably breed people for multi generational attendance 600 00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:16.559 for these major secret societies. I'm sure that there's people 601 00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:19.039 that are born into families that know that they're just 602 00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:21.840 gonna be in one of these fraternities when they get 603 00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:23.599 to a certain age, are going to be doing this 604 00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:26.440 when they get to a certain age, and they're gonna be, 605 00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:29.559 you know, in this elite position. So it's a multi 606 00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.639 generational type of thing that's been going on forever. And 607 00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:36.079 I wonder, you know, there's people going through these fraternities 608 00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:39.519 and coming out of them every day. They're spitting out 609 00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:42.119 new little psychopaths every day that are going to be 610 00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:48.239 in different institutions, different in things like politics, into Silicon 611 00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:53.320 Valley and the technical world, and different corporations, pharmaceuticals. So 612 00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:56.199 they're still pumping out these guys every day from these 613 00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:59.360 secret societies. And I'm sure the ideologies that they've been 614 00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:03.480 teaching these hasn't changed much since like the Bush days, 615 00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:03.719 you know. 616 00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:09.639 Well, yeah, it definitely has that like puritanical vibe of like, 617 00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:12.880 you know, we are the saved ones and everyone else 618 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:17.280 is damned to you know, hell fire. It's like this 619 00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:23.679 really interesting, almost evangelical I'm not totally up on all 620 00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:29.639 of the correct terms in Christianity. I'm slowly learning the 621 00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:33.119 nuances and the differences, but if my understanding is correct, 622 00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:38.880 new Haven was founded with this hyper Calvinist energy, which 623 00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:42.639 is like it's a form of Calvinism, but it's like 624 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:48.079 super focused on like really just like feeling ashamed of 625 00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:52.320 eternal sin, right, original sin, and like everything, like you're 626 00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:55.559 so screwed, you know, you have to make every day 627 00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:58.559 of your life about appeasing God and like. But it 628 00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:01.360 sort of creates this reverse psych where people are like, well, 629 00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:03.760 if I'm so evil already, I'm just gonna be evil 630 00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:06.000 and I'll make up for it tomorrow on Sunday kind 631 00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:09.320 of thing like sinner today, saint tomorrow. 632 00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:09.159 You know. 633 00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:13.440 And you even have this image on the building in 634 00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:17.840 New Haven itself, this like juxtaposition on the Yale Law School. 635 00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:21.400 There's a man clutching a bible, sort of hunched over 636 00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.280 and like you could see nothing. Next to him, he's 637 00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:27.639 just dress playing and clutching a bible with like all 638 00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.800 his strength. And then to his back is another figure 639 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:35.000 hunched over holding a drink that says like xxx. He 640 00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.599 has like a smoking pipe on his boot, he's got 641 00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:41.079 like gambling cards on his lap, he's got like a 642 00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:45.760 skull next to his shoulder. Like really strange iconography to 643 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:48.480 be on law school, let alone the law school that 644 00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:53.119 both Bill and Hillary Clinton graduated from. But yeah, so 645 00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:56.960 it's it's sort of like the yin Yang of the 646 00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:01.639 city to me, like they're encouraging this like avity while 647 00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:05.320 also chastising it through their like elite law school. 648 00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:07.239 I wonder how much of that is like just a 649 00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:10.519 front to say that they're they have this kind of 650 00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:14.800 religious backing or spiritual backing when it's all just bullshit. 651 00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:18.519 They they portray it a certain way when behind closed 652 00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:20.840 doors they don't believe any of it, and they're you know, 653 00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:24.960 doing butt stuff in Satanic rituals exactly. 654 00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:28.239 Yeah, it's like it's a wolf in sheep's clothing, you know, 655 00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:31.039 or a wolf in priest clothing, you know, I think 656 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:34.719 that that was sort of something I learned a little 657 00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:39.400 bit about on my weekend in Lancaster County, like the Amish, 658 00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:43.320 learning about how you know, they're very strict about their lifestyle, 659 00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:46.920 but they also have these loopholes. They got telephones that 660 00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:49.519 they use, you know that they got these like Amish 661 00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.840 telephones now, and they're like, you know, they're in a box, 662 00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.400 so they can't like I don't know, like there's all 663 00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:58.199 these like rules with their tech, like they can't have 664 00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:02.960 wires exposed something that gets a loophole around, so they 665 00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:06.440 could use the telephone, but they can't use electricity. It's 666 00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:09.639 it's such a weird, but that's that's the level that 667 00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:12.840 we're talking about here of like you know, rules for 668 00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:15.840 we and not the or or sort of even kind 669 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.559 of like playing with the fluidity of your own beliefs 670 00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:24.360 while presenting a very rigid set of beliefs. Like the 671 00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:28.480 Amish have charms, they do pow wow magic, they have 672 00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:31.440 you know, all kinds of curses that I'm sure they 673 00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:34.719 cast on their enemies. So like they're not exactly like 674 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:38.800 the most pure, like pure to the book type Christians. 675 00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:41.960 They're very occult, you know, I have a book that 676 00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:46.880 Michael Wan gave me, Witchcraft in America, The Realness of 677 00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:50.480 Witchcraft in America, and it focuses on the sort of 678 00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:56.400 Amish pow wow hex magic that they have in Pennsylvania. 679 00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:58.559 Sort of a privilege. Mike cook me up with a 680 00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:01.840 bunch of books on my trip to see them. But yeah, 681 00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:04.599 that was that's sort of along the same lines. And 682 00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:09.199 those people that settled the Amish country, they were Germans. 683 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:12.719 They were very strict, very similar to the people that 684 00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:15.519 founded the New Haven Colony. And you know, it's like 685 00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:19.320 a time capsule, like they've sort of existed a similar 686 00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.960 way for a long time. I mean, like I said, 687 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:24.559 they have the telephone loophole and all this other stuff 688 00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:28.360 now that makes them a little more modern. But yeah, 689 00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:31.880 I did feel like it was no accident that I 690 00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:34.039 ended up there. I mean I didn't really plan on 691 00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:37.920 going to Lancaster County for any other reason than to 692 00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:42.679 visit Michael Ian. But yeah, going there synchronistically, I learned 693 00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:46.199 things that are fitting into my Skull and Bones research. 694 00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:48.599 And that's just bound to happen. You know, anybody listening 695 00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:51.280 to this, when you go and look into the weird, 696 00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.840 hidden history of your own backyard. You're gonna find strange 697 00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:58.360 stuff and you're gonna find parallels to that in other places, 698 00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:01.000 which is why you know, listening to me talk about 699 00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:05.159 this might excite something in you or whoever is listening. 700 00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:08.039 I know you're going on a a hell of a trip. 701 00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:10.400 I don't know if you've already left or you've done so. 702 00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:15.039 Filming first, but we're getting we're getting started right on. 703 00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:17.719 Well cool, Yeah, and I think that's you know, something 704 00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:21.800 that you're going to see for sure, like the synchronicity 705 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:25.320 of the road and finding yourself in places that maybe 706 00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:28.480 you weren't aware of had this occult energy. 707 00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:33.119 Yeah. Man, that's it's so crazy. I'm sure any visit 708 00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:36.400 with Michael Wan is going to bring tons of synchronicities. 709 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:39.639 I love Michael and I love the work he's doing 710 00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:43.280 as well. So what is it exactly that did bring 711 00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.840 you to to Amish Country and to visit there? 712 00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:51.119 Well, Mike is staying at a place called Gnome Countryside. 713 00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.679 It has an Airbnb within it, So people listening, if 714 00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:57.280 you want to go and taste it yourself and get 715 00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:00.840 out and like experience this, it's not hard at all. 716 00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:05.440 Just go for it. Actually put the Airbnb link. In 717 00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:08.559 the episode description of the show, Mike and I do 718 00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:11.239 Together called Your Handbook for the Apocalypse, But that's what 719 00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:14.159 brought us there. Him and I co host a show together, 720 00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.880 and it consists of phone calls between him and I 721 00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:21.199 using my mixer. I'll call him up and he'll either 722 00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:24.320 be like hiking or driving or just like walking around 723 00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:27.519 talking on the phone, and that's our podcast. For him, 724 00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:31.119 it's kind of like a like a relief because as 725 00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:35.199 much as he enjoys being on podcasts over and over 726 00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:38.039 and over again, being in front of a computer sort 727 00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:40.440 of drained him a little bit. So like the less 728 00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:44.039 zoom meetings the better kind of thing. So our podcast 729 00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.480 has like a different feeling to it. It's not always 730 00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.519 the most polished because it is a phone call, but 731 00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.440 you know, just talking to him every week, we kind 732 00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:57.519 of built this like synchronistic rapport, as you do with friends, 733 00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.360 Like things start happening in your life and the life 734 00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:04.199 and you sort of come together. And that's exactly what 735 00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:08.800 happened on this trip. We drove down there and we 736 00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:14.559 went to get coffee and I said, let's do you 737 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.519 know some randomness, Let's pick where we're gonna go but 738 00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:20.079 let's be random. Let's not like think about it. Let's 739 00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:23.119 just let it come to us, right. So Mike was 740 00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:27.719 initially inspired by that and was like, I. 741 00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:28.360 Got an idea. 742 00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:31.320 Let me look at your charts. So he looks at 743 00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:34.280 our charts and we're kind of sitting there and then 744 00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:37.360 he's like, Okay, take a thing out of a bag. 745 00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:39.800 He's got, like this really awesome and I would love 746 00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:42.000 for him to describe this. So I don't want to 747 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.079 talk about it too much. But the starboard that he has, 748 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:50.960 he's now going to be very soon selling smaller your 749 00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.039 own version of a starboards so you can buy your 750 00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:56.280 own starboard. So he gave us the game pieces and 751 00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:58.840 we're kind of like fiddling around or pulling one out 752 00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:02.039 game piece might not be the bestest term for it, 753 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:04.519 but we pulled one out that had a Saturn symbol 754 00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.360 and one out that had a Neptune symbol, and Mike 755 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:11.199 did some like astrological calculations and was like, let's go 756 00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:14.679 to the Serpentine barrens. I'm like, okay, let's do it. 757 00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:18.960 So we drove to the Serpentine barrens, and I mean, 758 00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:22.000 if you don't know what serpentine barrens are they're very 759 00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:28.039 strange places where the geology is all this certain type 760 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:33.400 of stone called serpentine, which makes for only certain types 761 00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:36.840 of plants being able to grow there. And in the 762 00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:38.920 East Coast we have a bunch of pretty much like 763 00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:42.519 lush like woodlands, like a lot of like weeds and like, 764 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.440 especially this time of year, the overgrowth is like thick, 765 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:48.519 you know, but here it was like grassy, you know, 766 00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:52.159 sparse trees. Probably looks like like Texas, a little bit 767 00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:56.119 like Eastern Texas. The way it's kind of like scrablands, 768 00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:59.679 scabland kind of uh, I don't know the right term 769 00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:02.119 for it. But we end up in this like weird, 770 00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:07.480 strange place, lightning storms like on the horizon, and then 771 00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:11.039 I get a strange message on Instagram that's like somebody 772 00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:16.400 trying to channel us about this, like goddess named talk 773 00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:20.079 and I'm like, huh, you know, like I'm not doing 774 00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:23.239 this story justice, but all these things like came together 775 00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:26.480 in this way, and uh, once Mike and I get 776 00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:29.840 on the podcast will probably break it down one by one. 777 00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:36.679 But yeah, just exploring and like having an experience in 778 00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:42.280 the you know, outside of the frames of conventional time 779 00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:44.880 because so many people like they go out and they 780 00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:48.039 schedule their day like ABCDE then we're gonna do this, 781 00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:51.480 We're gonna eat like we really like we're as unprepared 782 00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:54.679 and unorganized as possible. But we had a great time 783 00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:58.079 and we made it back to the truck before it 784 00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:01.679 started downpouring, just in time. I'm we went down to 785 00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:04.519 this part of the Susquehanna River where they have all 786 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.519 these big rock islands that you can kind of like 787 00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:12.599 jump along. It's just, you know, might take a little 788 00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:17.239 more reflecting because I just got back last night before 789 00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:19.559 I have like sort of like a silver lining to 790 00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:22.440 the trip. But yeah, so far, you know, that's that's 791 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:24.679 what stands out. And I got to speak to an 792 00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:27.639 Amish person for a little bit, which was cool. He 793 00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:29.920 came by on his horse and buggy and asked me 794 00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:30.679 where I was from. 795 00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:36.639 Man, it's the Amish that do the the rum Springer thing. 796 00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:38.119 Yeah. Yeah. 797 00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:42.239 The Amish is like a sort of it's like a 798 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.880 I don't think they consider themselves. They don't call themselves 799 00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:48.440 that name. They call themselves Menonites, and there's a bunch 800 00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:51.559 of different types of Menonites. I think there might be 801 00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.719 other groups that are similar to the Mennonites that don't 802 00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:59.119 go by that word, but yeah, they're they're they're the 803 00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:04.159 same ones that do rumspringer And I'm almost certain that, like, 804 00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:06.599 like to the point about the telephone, like they do 805 00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:09.639 some wild stuff, Like some of them do rumspring and 806 00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:13.159 never come back, like they just become like normal American citizens, 807 00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:16.880 or they become like homeless drug addicts, which is kind 808 00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.480 of sad. But yeah, there was some kind of documentary 809 00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:24.480 about that that I saw a few years ago. Yeah, yeah, 810 00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:26.639 I don't know too much about that, but they did 811 00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:30.280 seem like, like Mike Wan said, they're like cats, like 812 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:32.639 you got to be you know, they're friendly, they'll wave, 813 00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:34.559 but you could scare them off real easily. 814 00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:36.320 Man. 815 00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:37.360 That is crazy. 816 00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:40.239 It's like a whole different type of world when you're 817 00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:43.639 interacting with that stuff. Now, before we move on to 818 00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.440 some of the other stuff you're working on, any any 819 00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:49.280 other interesting tidbits that you found out about Skull and 820 00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:51.360 Bones or anything else you'd like to share about that. 821 00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:54.639 Yeah, And I mean what we just kind of talked 822 00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:57.920 about is a little bit about what I'm doing with 823 00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:00.400 the scene. So if you want, we can go back 824 00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:03.880 to the scull and bones stuff, or we could stay 825 00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:06.519 on the scene. But the skull and bones. Yeah, I mean, 826 00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:10.119 there's a lot. There's so much that I couldn't spend 827 00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:13.440 more than one or two episodes talking about. It's going 828 00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:17.320 to be a whole series, probably be an entirely separate 829 00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:20.800 podcast from my family thinks I'm crazy. And so far, 830 00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:24.480 we've already had a couple really interesting guests that we've interviewed. 831 00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:29.039 Troy McLaughlin has added some of his research to the project. 832 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:33.280 My friend Donut, He's got a really cool YouTube channel, 833 00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:36.760 Donut hit us with some scull and bone symbolism in 834 00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:41.280 pop culture. So we're starting off, you know, one by one, 835 00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:45.639 and it is going to be a visual documentary too, 836 00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:48.280 So there's gonna be like a podcast and a video 837 00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.800 documentary that goes with it. So high hopes, big plans, 838 00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:56.719 but I think Jay and I can accomplish it. And 839 00:51:56.719 --> 00:51:59.199 and yeah, I mean I've done a couple of interviews 840 00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:01.440 like this one on topic so so far, I mean, 841 00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:04.920 there's so much information that I've sort of spit out 842 00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:07.800 about this that we're going to kind of compile it 843 00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:12.920 into a narrative and weave it into something that won't 844 00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:15.760 be your traditional take on Scull and Bones. It'll it'll 845 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:20.760 really sort of highlight a secret side of colonial history 846 00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:27.599 that has a you know, grip on the institutions that 847 00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.679 we think of as modern today, and they're really not. 848 00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:36.280 I mean, they're they're superstitious and and you know, megal imania, 849 00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:41.480 megaloman maniacal, that's the word I've been thinking of. 850 00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:44.320 Well, do you think at its core, like organizations like 851 00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:48.960 Scull and Bones and fraternities that are actually around still today, 852 00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:51.800 do you think that they still carry around some of 853 00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:55.440 these old ideologies at their heart and like I was 854 00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:58.039 saying earlier, kind of turning out these same type of 855 00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:00.920 individuals because they kept this. 856 00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:08.039 Yeah, I think people are at mass initiated now. And 857 00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:12.280 what happens is the majority of us go through life, 858 00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:15.199 not you and I most likely not the people who 859 00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:18.679 tune into this podcast, but the majority of human beings, 860 00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:21.239 at least in America and the Western world, go through 861 00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:25.960 life in a sort of sleeping initiation. They've been initiated 862 00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:29.880 into these esoteric ideas that they're asleep too. They're not 863 00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:33.559 aware of them, but they respond unconsciously to them and 864 00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.800 joining an organization like Skull and Bones, joining an organization 865 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:42.039 like the Masons, or walking your own path and coming 866 00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:44.119 up to a place like this where you know, we're 867 00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:48.239 listening to this podcast, or you and I were participating 868 00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:51.599 in this podcast right, Like these are ways to wake up. 869 00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:55.440 So I think when they've created the situation where most 870 00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:58.760 people are asleep, it gives groups like Skull and Bones 871 00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:02.800 a tremendous power because if you're the one who's responsible 872 00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:07.519 for waking someone up, that person will give you their loyalty, right, 873 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:09.960 And I think that's what is kind of like with 874 00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:13.320 the podcasting, Like we're all in this community together because 875 00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:16.880 we see the world for what it is. We might 876 00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:19.599 not all agree on what we're seeing, but for the 877 00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:22.760 most part, people listen to these conspiracy podcasts like we're 878 00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:26.000 kind of initiated into a thing too. Like most the 879 00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:28.800 average person listens to a podcast like this, and they 880 00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:31.880 don't really have any like context to grab to, Like 881 00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:34.039 they're like, what's going on? What are these people talking about? 882 00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:38.840 They sound paranoid, you know, and maybe that's the way 883 00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:41.000 it's supposed to be, you know, maybe they're not ready 884 00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:44.079 for the information yet. But I think that's kind of 885 00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:47.719 what's going on, is that they give people a sort 886 00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:51.599 of esteem that makes them feel better than other people, 887 00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:55.320 especially going to a school like Yale University or Harvard 888 00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:58.719 University or Cambridge or Oxford. I mean the age of 889 00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:04.679 these schools, the the wealth, the layout, right, the secret anatomy. 890 00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:09.559 I mean, these things are palpable when you're walking in 891 00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:12.760 the city. Not to mention, it's the Elm city, which 892 00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:16.440 the Elm tree has its own occult significance. It's also 893 00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:20.440 related to the planet Saturn. So yeah, I think they 894 00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:27.239 They definitely create a sort of atmosphere that lends to 895 00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:33.199 hierarchy that resembles the pyramid, and that's their symbol for 896 00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:38.440 a reason. You know, this pyramidal consciousness. I for one, 897 00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:44.639 I think all of us should be in a circular consciousness, 898 00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:49.199 a whole equal consciousness, you know, people holding hands in 899 00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.719 a full circle, not you know, one man on top 900 00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:56.880 standing on the shoulders of everyone else. Right, So this 901 00:55:56.960 --> 00:56:00.679 is how they maintain that, keeping people asleep, and they 902 00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:04.519 need pawns, They need people to take their place when 903 00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:07.639 they die, so they use groups like scull and Bones 904 00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:13.360 to maintain this elite hierarchy. You know, and I've known 905 00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:17.800 about the elite hierarchy, but I'm not saying it's only 906 00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:21.000 Skull and Bones, you know what I mean. Like, again, 907 00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:24.679 we're sort of in this stupor this sleep, and we 908 00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:28.400 recognize things like, oh, there's an elite agenda, and people 909 00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:30.400 want to get into these camps of like oh, but 910 00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:32.960 it's this group and only this group. And what I 911 00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:35.280 hope to show with Skull and Bones is and this 912 00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:38.079 project is that it's not one group or another group. 913 00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:43.320 It's the system itself. It's the society itself that creates 914 00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:49.119 this atmosphere, this you know, momentum of energy that goes 915 00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:51.320 in a certain direction, and all they have to do 916 00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:55.119 is set the wheels in motion, and they end up 917 00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:58.519 on the upswing and everyone else ends up on the 918 00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:02.960 downward spiral. And thanks to podcasts like yours and the 919 00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:07.320 one I do, I hope people can begin to spiral upwards, 920 00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:10.800 you know, and spiral out of that downward spiral and 921 00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:13.800 into a sort of higher state of awareness, in a 922 00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:15.360 higher state of consciousness. 923 00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:18.519 Man, I think that that's exactly what's happening with people 924 00:57:18.679 --> 00:57:22.840 right now. There are so many wonderful podcasts that I'm 925 00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.719 listening to now that didn't even exist a couple of 926 00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:28.599 years ago. So so many people talking about this stuff 927 00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:32.239 and building their own new systems, help building their own farms, 928 00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:36.280 their own businesses, their own forms of entertainment. So people 929 00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:40.599 are starting there like a new society under the crumbling 930 00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:43.320 one that we have. So it gives me hope that 931 00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:46.039 a lot of people are indeed awakening and we may 932 00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:50.039 even be the majority of individuals that are on the 933 00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:53.280 right side of history. So that makes me happy as well. 934 00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:56.280 Let's talk about another project you got going on. It's 935 00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:59.920 like you have a travel guide or something, right, Yeah, So. 936 00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:05.159 What I did driving down to Lancaster was sort of 937 00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:09.000 like an experiment. You know, I've only been able to 938 00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:13.440 navigate this far for only five or six years. I mean, 939 00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:16.199 I've been driving since I was eighteen, but most of 940 00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:18.400 the cars I had up until I was twenty five 941 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:20.960 couldn't make it out of my own town, let alone 942 00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:24.239 the state. Like I was driving junker cars, and you know, 943 00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:26.800 once I got a car that could actually make it 944 00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:30.159 out of state, I was like, WHOA, this freedom is exhilarating. 945 00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:32.760 Where do I go though, Like what do I do? 946 00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:36.960 And I end up finding places synchronistically because my goal 947 00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:40.000 was to just keep driving because I didn't want to 948 00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:42.000 be home. I didn't want to. I lived at my 949 00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:44.639 dad's place back then, so as much time as I 950 00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:47.960 could spend away from home, get back home when he 951 00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:48.719 was sleeping. 952 00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:48.960 You know. 953 00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:50.960 If I had like a day off from work or something, 954 00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:53.119 I would not spend the day at home. I would 955 00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:56.280 get in the car, drive, listen to podcasts, and then 956 00:58:56.280 --> 00:58:58.679 come back when he was asleep, just because it's just 957 00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:01.599 the way my dad and I our relationship at that 958 00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:03.960 point in time, and not a very good one, more 959 00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:05.119 of a contentious one. 960 00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:05.360 Right. 961 00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:10.599 So escapism, sure, but I'm exploring and I'm dealing with 962 00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:13.800 some like really deep emotions. I'm dealing with, like what 963 00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:16.000 am I going to do with the rest of my life? 964 00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:20.239 You know, like I don't have a you know, savings, 965 00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:24.000 I don't have investment in some sort of education. I 966 00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:26.719 just have my own experience to go off of. And 967 00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:30.039 I start finding these places and I realized, like there 968 00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:33.119 is something that's going on on these journeys, and it's 969 00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:36.400 like it's like dream walking because when I was driving, 970 00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:40.800 I was able to tap into a state of consciousness 971 00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:45.800 that I think people who are athletic or maybe even 972 00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:51.039 martial arts like yoga, different breathing techniques, like people can 973 00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:55.360 tap into this type of consciousness aside from driving. But ever, 974 00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:59.559 for the most part, like many people can relate to driving, right, 975 00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:03.079 Not every nobody drives, I understand that, but many people 976 01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:05.599 can relate to that feeling even riding a bike too. 977 01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:08.519 It's sort of like your body takes over and your 978 01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:11.840 mind is allowed to wander. And this is like a 979 01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:15.440 dream walking And what I want to provide for people 980 01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:19.320 with this book is some tips and some tricks, maybe 981 01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:24.159 some clues to begin the process themselves of dream walking 982 01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:28.639 and how to actually go about planning a day from 983 01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:31.679 this dreaming state of consciousness. So instead of being so 984 01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:34.400 logical about things like, well, I'm going to be hungry 985 01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:36.079 at this point, so I want to pack this. And 986 01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:39.320 like any time I've ever tried to plan for something, 987 01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:42.239 it's not worked out, And I think other people can 988 01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:44.719 probably relate to that, like that idea of like I 989 01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:46.559 tried to plan and it just didn't work out the 990 01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:49.079 way I thought it would. And maybe some people have 991 01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:53.719 mastered the art of like following through with plans, But 992 01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:57.719 I think there's a sort of fun in dealing with 993 01:00:58.079 --> 01:00:58.840 what happens. 994 01:00:58.960 --> 01:00:59.199 Right. 995 01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:01.639 This is sort of like hit bumping the road and 996 01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:03.840 you got to you know, figure it out from there. 997 01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:07.000 So that's really what the scene Edition one is going 998 01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:10.320 to be about. It's going to be about how to 999 01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:13.679 gain the awareness and to tune your focus to you know, 1000 01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:18.360 what's really important as opposed to the mundanity of your life. 1001 01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:24.960 Set your intention, designated time so that your family or 1002 01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:27.039 your obligations aren't going to get in the way. I 1003 01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:29.559 know people with kids might not be able to do this. 1004 01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:32.559 If you're if you're lucky, you can, you know, let 1005 01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:35.079 the kids stay with the you know, parents for a 1006 01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:38.000 day or something, or your relatives that you trust, whatever. 1007 01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:42.760 But this is something best spent alone or with your 1008 01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:45.880 loved one, like your you know, your significant other, and 1009 01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:50.920 you want to figure out a way that's comfortable to 1010 01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:56.599 impose randomness. So this app, random Knots was popular for 1011 01:01:56.639 --> 01:01:59.440 a while. I never had any success with it. I 1012 01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:01.639 couldn't figureigure out how the app worked. Maybe I'm just 1013 01:02:02.039 --> 01:02:06.400 you know, a luddite or something, but not for me. 1014 01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:09.000 I think people could use that app in this sort 1015 01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:11.519 of way, and I think that's what the app was 1016 01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:14.280 made for. But I found that you can use dice, 1017 01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:17.400 you can use a coin, you can use really anything 1018 01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:22.639 to provoke randomness in your decision making. And like, for instance, 1019 01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:26.280 if you're coming on a road and you have several options, 1020 01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:29.920 have a dice in a cup and roll the dice 1021 01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:33.039 and just designate one fork in the road odds and 1022 01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:35.280 the other one evens. Roll that dice in the cup 1023 01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:37.199 so you're not like looking all over your car for 1024 01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:39.880 the dice, and then just say, okay, we got odds. 1025 01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:41.960 We're going to take a left. And that's where you go, 1026 01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:44.519 and you see where you end up, and you're aware 1027 01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:47.400 of the signs, the things that are on the road, 1028 01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:50.679 maybe historical markers. Those are something that I always look 1029 01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:53.039 out for to tell you about like the history. 1030 01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:53.320 Of the place. 1031 01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:57.519 And then really the fun is afterwards when you get 1032 01:02:57.559 --> 01:02:59.960 home and you're like, okay, why did I go there? 1033 01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:02.480 What brought me out to that place? And you start 1034 01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:05.159 looking into the history and you're like, oh, wow, there 1035 01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:07.800 used to be like this weird factory over there. Now 1036 01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:10.920 it's shut down, and in the seventeen hundreds people were 1037 01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:13.199 doing this, and you start to put piece the story 1038 01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:15.760 of your backyard together and then the next time you 1039 01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:18.239 go out now you have sort of idea of what 1040 01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:20.880 was there, and maybe you go back to there and 1041 01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:23.639 you find something new, maybe you go to an entirely new, 1042 01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:28.559 different place. I mean, it's literally endless possibilities. I think 1043 01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:32.039 people have trouble with getting in the right mind state 1044 01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:34.800 to be able to find this stuff. And it's not difficult. 1045 01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:37.599 You know, people probably do it by accident more often 1046 01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:40.440 than not. And maybe someone will get this book and 1047 01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:43.840 be like, oh, I already knew this. But not only 1048 01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:45.800 are are you going to get kind of primed to 1049 01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:47.840 go on your own journeys, but I want to also 1050 01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:51.880 include different symbols and things that I've found in the 1051 01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:57.159 natural world. And maybe these symbols might not mean the 1052 01:03:57.239 --> 01:04:00.320 same for you, and especially if you don't live in 1053 01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:03.800 the same place as me, because they're like plants, animals, minerals, 1054 01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:07.360 those are all very specific to certain places. But these 1055 01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:11.079 things come to us on our journeys as symbols, as omens, 1056 01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:14.280 and and you'll see a bird that's significant, or you'll 1057 01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:17.639 encounter an animal running across the road that's significant. I mean, 1058 01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:21.320 two weeks ago, Tara and I saw bobcat crossing the road, 1059 01:04:21.639 --> 01:04:23.719 and then this week, you know, we ended up on 1060 01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:27.280 Wildcat Island in the Susquehanna River. I don't think that 1061 01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:30.920 that's a coincidence. If I hadn't found out that that 1062 01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:33.440 was called Wildcat Island, I would have never known. I 1063 01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:35.760 had to look at the map, right. So it's kind 1064 01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:38.559 of like, you know, a mix of different skills, and 1065 01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:41.960 it's meant to be fun, and it's meant to give 1066 01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:49.119 people a sort of an answer to like the weirdness 1067 01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:51.559 of life in the past two years, Like you can't 1068 01:04:52.199 --> 01:04:56.920 you can't like go to six Flags and experience freedom 1069 01:04:56.960 --> 01:04:59.159 the way you could in twenty fifteen, like going to 1070 01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:01.760 a roller coaster or amusement park might have been fun, 1071 01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:03.800 but for me now, like I don't want to do 1072 01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:07.199 anything that has to do with other people. I don't 1073 01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:09.440 want to see anyone wearing a mask. I want to 1074 01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:11.719 get out into nature and do fun stuff, and I 1075 01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:14.400 think this is a great way to do that. And 1076 01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:16.639 you don't have to go into a state park or 1077 01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:19.440 even a national park. You could just drive around man 1078 01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:21.639 and find a place. I mean, there's so many little 1079 01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:25.960 pockets of wilderness in your own town or in your county, 1080 01:05:26.079 --> 01:05:29.199 and places with history too. I mean, even if it's 1081 01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:32.679 not like a spectacular vista or something like maybe something 1082 01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:35.840 really strange went down in this area. I saw a 1083 01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:38.760 sign while Mike, Tara and I were driving to those 1084 01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:43.679 Serpentine Serpentine Barons that said something about a kidnapping. A 1085 01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:47.000 woman named Mary Parker was kidnapped, and this was part 1086 01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:49.519 of the sort of anti slave movement. They got a 1087 01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:51.679 big sign on the side of the road. Oh, the 1088 01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:55.480 eighteen fifties, Mary Parker was kidnapped here, you know. And 1089 01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:58.079 it's things like that that you just come across and 1090 01:05:59.159 --> 01:06:03.079 take them into consideration, and then in hindsight you kind 1091 01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:05.119 of put a story together, you know, don't see what 1092 01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:07.880 happens is a lot like what Michael Wan talks about too. 1093 01:06:07.880 --> 01:06:11.079 I gotta give him credit because he is a big inspiration, 1094 01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:14.000 of course, given that we went down and hung out 1095 01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:17.239 with him this past weekend and I do a podcast 1096 01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:19.559 with him, So yeah, he's a He's a huge inspiration 1097 01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:19.960 for me. 1098 01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:23.679 Man. I love that years one hundred percent spot on. See, 1099 01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:27.199 I only do road trips. I'll never fly again. I 1100 01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:30.119 don't want to do anything but be in control. I 1101 01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:33.639 love driving. I don't even really like being a passenger 1102 01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:35.079 that much. I will have I have to, but I 1103 01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:38.239 really love driving. I love driving across country and there 1104 01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:42.440 is this like mystical experience and so many synchronicities happen 1105 01:06:42.519 --> 01:06:45.960 on the road with animals and trees and road signs 1106 01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:49.480 and just nature the beauty of it. It's it's like 1107 01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:52.679 it is a very spiritual experience for me taking a 1108 01:06:52.760 --> 01:06:55.199 road trip and doing things like that. I love the 1109 01:06:55.239 --> 01:06:57.960 idea of doing that, and that's one of the reasons 1110 01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:00.360 why I moved out to where I do, because man, 1111 01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:03.239 there's so many places to explore out here in the Rockies. 1112 01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:05.679 We live about a mile from the foothills. There's like 1113 01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:09.199 little abandoned ghost towns and old abandoned mines and just 1114 01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:11.800 the crazy roads. If I did the thing with the 1115 01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:13.840 dice and the roads, I don't know if I can 1116 01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:15.440 do that all the time. I have a fear of heights, 1117 01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:18.119 and there's some there's some fucking crazy roads out here 1118 01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:19.960 with no railing that are going up to you know, 1119 01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:23.199 fourteen thousand feet or higher. So you get a little 1120 01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:25.199 white knuckle drive it in there if you do that, 1121 01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:27.760 and which I've done before, man, and it's it's pretty 1122 01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:31.119 fucking terrifying. But yeah, that's a great idea, man. I 1123 01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:35.679 love that, and You're absolutely right. Not making any concrete 1124 01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:38.400 plans and just going is the best. I do that. 1125 01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:40.639 I steal that do that every time when I have 1126 01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:43.960 a day off from not doing any podcasts or working anything, 1127 01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:46.199 I'll go head out to the foothills and just be like, 1128 01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:49.000 where's this road gonna take me? And you know, if 1129 01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:51.079 I end off on a cliff side almost falling off, 1130 01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:52.760 I'll be like, yeah, look at this. But you know, 1131 01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:55.559 it's always an adventure, you know, absolutely right. 1132 01:07:55.639 --> 01:07:58.880 Yeah, well, at your own risk, that journey at your 1133 01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:01.480 own risk, you know. I mean here on the East Coast, 1134 01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:04.360 we don't have perilous cliff faces as much as you 1135 01:08:04.480 --> 01:08:07.840 probably do out there, so I hadn't taken that into 1136 01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:12.440 account at all. But yeah, my car is like totally 1137 01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:15.760 not great on hills, so yeah, I just avoid that. 1138 01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:19.039 But yeah, at your own comfort level. You know, you 1139 01:08:19.079 --> 01:08:21.800 don't have to hit the dice at every fork in 1140 01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:23.920 the road. But I think it's a good way to 1141 01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:28.199 like step out of your normal decision making habits. And 1142 01:08:28.439 --> 01:08:31.479 that's when, like you said, synchronicity happens. Like when you 1143 01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:33.840 go on a road trip that's not a normal habit. 1144 01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:37.520 I mean, truck drivers and people who do logistics for work. 1145 01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:40.439 Maybe they feel a little more routine about it, but 1146 01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:43.399 those folks are usually driving on the interstate anyways. You know, 1147 01:08:43.560 --> 01:08:46.960 like real road tripping happens on the back roads, happens 1148 01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:49.520 on the country roads, happens when the roads that cut 1149 01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:53.399 through forests and go buy river gorges, like get off 1150 01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:56.640 of the freaking root US Route one, get off of 1151 01:08:56.720 --> 01:08:59.680 Route sixty six, Like, don't you know unless you know, 1152 01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:04.079 that's only option. Again, I'm not that familiar with the wests, 1153 01:09:04.199 --> 01:09:06.920 so you might have a different situation out there. But 1154 01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:10.640 my advice is to try to be as remote as possible. 1155 01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:14.039 But also, you know, don't catch yourself too lost, you know, 1156 01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:15.319 you don't want to get stranded. 1157 01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:18.920 Yeah, man, I love it. And what is this? You 1158 01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:20.239 have a title for this project? 1159 01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:23.760 Yeah, so it's it's the same title that I've had 1160 01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:26.399 for I mean really, it's what I do on the 1161 01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:29.199 Patreon is talk about this kind of stuff. It's the 1162 01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:34.079 synchro mystic exploration of the ever expanding Now, so I 1163 01:09:34.199 --> 01:09:38.239 sort of achronize the acronym for that is seen see 1164 01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:42.119 N three e's. So this is going to be edition one. 1165 01:09:43.039 --> 01:09:45.159 My girlfriend and I are both working on this and 1166 01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:49.319 hopefully as as this journey grows and progresses, will have 1167 01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:52.039 more information to share and they'll be an addition two 1168 01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:54.880 in edition three and it could be like like a 1169 01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:58.760 magazine or something, or like a little small book. 1170 01:09:59.439 --> 01:10:02.000 Hell yeah, man, I love it. We went from Sculling 1171 01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:03.439 Bones to road trip talk. 1172 01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:05.560 Yeah, that's what we do. Is great. 1173 01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:08.560 Before you head out, Mark, let everyone know where they 1174 01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:09.520 can find your stuff. 1175 01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:12.079 That was fantastic. Thank you brother, Thank you. 1176 01:10:12.119 --> 01:10:12.319 Yeah. 1177 01:10:12.359 --> 01:10:15.840 Always a pleasure being here on Forbidden Knowledge News. Chris Matthew, 1178 01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:18.920 I appreciate you giving me an invite and I wish 1179 01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:22.479 you the best of luck on your journey, and I 1180 01:10:22.520 --> 01:10:25.039 hope you come out to Sculling Bones. Definitely let me know. 1181 01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:27.720 I'll give you a little tour. Definitely, I'll definitely give 1182 01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:30.119 you a tour. So if folks are interested in that 1183 01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:33.199 and maybe even getting a tour themselves, just stay in 1184 01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:35.680 touch with me on my family think somecrazy dot com. 1185 01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:38.279 That's where you'll find everything I do. You can just 1186 01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:40.680 scroll all the way to the bottom of the page. 1187 01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:44.079 Everything's right on that front page. Even the show I 1188 01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:47.600 do with Michael Wan can be found there, but that 1189 01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:50.239 show has a different RSS feed. So if you're a 1190 01:10:50.279 --> 01:10:53.319 podcast listener, which I know you are because you're here, 1191 01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:57.760 check out Susquehanna Alchemy. Type that in on your podcast 1192 01:10:57.800 --> 01:10:59.880 player and find the show that I do with Mike. 1193 01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:03.479 We got a couple in person interviews. I took my 1194 01:11:03.560 --> 01:11:06.720 mixer out of the studio, put it in the field, 1195 01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:10.119 and I interviewed Mike in person. I interviewed some of 1196 01:11:10.159 --> 01:11:13.319 his characters that are in that part of the world. 1197 01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:15.960 So yeah, those episodes will be coming out this week. 1198 01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:19.880 I love it, man, always an awesome conversation. And today 1199 01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:22.640 I want to welcome Michael Harrell. He is a retired 1200 01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:25.920 carpenter that had a mission to find out how and 1201 01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:29.840 why people get so wounded and how to fix them. 1202 01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:33.800 This task was working in his subconsciousness his whole life, 1203 01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:37.520 and only in twenty sixteen did the full memory of 1204 01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:41.720 this task become recovered. Michael, welcome. How you doing. 1205 01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:46.359 I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Yeah, man, a lot 1206 01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:50.760 exciting things going on in the world, but I'm alive 1207 01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:51.600 and doing fine. 1208 01:11:52.119 --> 01:11:55.560 Hey, you can't get better in that. That's excellent. I've 1209 01:11:55.560 --> 01:11:58.640 been looking forward to this man. You've had some incredible 1210 01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:03.840 transformative experiences throughout your life, You've gained profound insights into 1211 01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:07.039 not only your own awakening, but a greater awareness of 1212 01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:10.279 the true nature of the universe and our collective role 1213 01:12:10.359 --> 01:12:13.359 within it. This is gonna be a great conversation. I 1214 01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:17.199 love hearing other spiritual journeys and how their life is 1215 01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:22.039 unfolded just by following their heart and passion and also 1216 01:12:22.119 --> 01:12:25.239 heeding messages from the universe and its messengers is I 1217 01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:28.239 think a very important part as well. Uh, this is 1218 01:12:28.279 --> 01:12:31.159 your first time on Michael, how did this all start 1219 01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:31.600 for you? 1220 01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:38.000 Oh? And that's like a whole show in itself, just 1221 01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:41.319 not like a carpenter retired carpenter. But in my childhood 1222 01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:45.760 it was like you know, some childhood adversities what they 1223 01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:50.119 call ass and uh you know, I had insanity, you know, 1224 01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:53.399 like clinical and science sanity in my in my life 1225 01:12:53.439 --> 01:12:58.039 and uh so living in a dysfunctional family and there 1226 01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:00.520 was there was it, even though I was ever beaten 1227 01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:02.279 or yelled at or anything like that, but there was 1228 01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:08.479 this kind of underlying current of mental illness and alcoholism 1229 01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:13.600 and you know, suicide thing like that, not for me, 1230 01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:18.079 but for my family. So I was just kind of 1231 01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:22.159 that kind of knocked me out. I Actually it started 1232 01:13:22.159 --> 01:13:25.199 with my mother when before I was born, she was 1233 01:13:25.239 --> 01:13:28.560 like traumatized with a kind of fight with my dad, 1234 01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:33.159 and so she didn't She was like regretting the whole 1235 01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:36.720 idea of me being born at that time. And then 1236 01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:41.439 after I was born, she went into postpartum depression with psychotics. 1237 01:13:41.479 --> 01:13:44.439 So basically I was born without a mother and that 1238 01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:47.239 really messed up my You know, I was like a 1239 01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:50.880 crib baby, so I didn't do the crawling and the 1240 01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:53.840 bonding and all that kind of stuff. I didn't actually 1241 01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:56.720 learn how to talk until I was twenty one years 1242 01:13:56.760 --> 01:14:01.520 old because I was just shut down, and uh, you know, 1243 01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:05.760 this is kind of what was going on. But then, 1244 01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:08.880 you know, then I guess when I was in my twenties, 1245 01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:11.239 I uh even did a lot of drugs to try 1246 01:14:11.279 --> 01:14:14.239 to like, you know, numb the pain and stuff. Did 1247 01:14:14.279 --> 01:14:18.399 a lot of LSD and still cybing, and but then 1248 01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:19.920 that thing was like, you know, you go up and 1249 01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:22.640 you come back down. I'm thinking, man, I don't want 1250 01:14:22.680 --> 01:14:25.640 to come back down because coming down is like that's 1251 01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:30.760 a downer. So uh, I ended up bumping into this 1252 01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:36.199 guy and cooking a grove Florida, and he was a 1253 01:14:36.199 --> 01:14:39.880 fully enlightened man. The guy was fully full of God 1254 01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:44.760 realized me being right, and uh, I had no idea 1255 01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:47.640 what that was. I was kind of like a redneck hippie, 1256 01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:52.399 you know, kind of a guy. And uh so I 1257 01:14:52.439 --> 01:14:54.159 just hung out with this guy for like four hours 1258 01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:58.039 one day and uh and uh he was telling me 1259 01:14:58.079 --> 01:15:00.359 about how he got it became ENLiGHT and then what 1260 01:15:00.399 --> 01:15:03.199 they was in the lightning was all about and stuff 1261 01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:06.359 like that, and uh, here I am in living my life. 1262 01:15:06.479 --> 01:15:09.239 Is if you can imagine driving thinking like you're driving 1263 01:15:09.279 --> 01:15:13.359 around in a in like a Volkswagen, right, You're like, 1264 01:15:13.399 --> 01:15:16.079 there's old there's old time Volkswagens. There's all out of 1265 01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:18.439 metal and just one radio and that's all you got. 1266 01:15:19.239 --> 01:15:21.319 And then I'm looking at this guy and he's his 1267 01:15:21.560 --> 01:15:24.960 driving his life around in a seven forty seven. It's 1268 01:15:25.039 --> 01:15:33.159 like this gigantic presence. Right. Well, anyway, that guy blew 1269 01:15:33.199 --> 01:15:36.840 my mind. And uh what actually happened from just driving 1270 01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:39.079 around with this guy driving around town because he was 1271 01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:41.960 just like this kind of wandering side or a saint 1272 01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:44.159 or something that he was an American guy about six 1273 01:15:44.199 --> 01:15:47.319 foot six two or something like that. But anyway, he 1274 01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:50.520 blew the transmission out of my car. The energy this 1275 01:15:50.560 --> 01:15:54.000 guy had blew all the seals out of the transmission 1276 01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:55.399 out of my car because I just had a brand 1277 01:15:55.439 --> 01:15:58.920 new transmission put in. It was a nineteen sixty five 1278 01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:03.720 or Ford Galaxy five hundred. It was like a big tank. 1279 01:16:04.720 --> 01:16:06.880 So I took and got it fixed. And the guy said, 1280 01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:09.239 he said, I said, man, I've never had The guy said, 1281 01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:13.000 I've been doing doing this for twenty years fixing and transmissions. 1282 01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:15.399 Never seen one happen like this. It's all the seals 1283 01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:17.439 were blown out of it. And the guy just gave 1284 01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:24.600 me a new transmission for free. Then I I a 1285 01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:27.159 couple of days later, I was in junior college there 1286 01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:30.840 and then and and I was driving to junior college 1287 01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:34.159 and I started hearing people talk. I go, well, what's 1288 01:16:34.199 --> 01:16:37.119 this all about? And I actually pulled a car over 1289 01:16:37.119 --> 01:16:39.760 the side of the road, turned off the radio. I 1290 01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:42.520 could still hear people talk. I was like two miles 1291 01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:45.479 away from the college, and as I drove closer to 1292 01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:48.399 the college, I could hear him talk louder than I 1293 01:16:48.439 --> 01:16:50.800 parked the car, and I was I had to go 1294 01:16:50.960 --> 01:16:52.960 up one side of the college and a cross in 1295 01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:54.720 front of the library. When I crossed in front of 1296 01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:59.039 the library. I looked over and I realized that I 1297 01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:01.880 was hearing the peace people reading. You know when you 1298 01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:04.880 read a book in the library, I could hear people 1299 01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:07.359 reading their books, and you know, they talk in their 1300 01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:10.640 head when they read, so it's like really clear. I 1301 01:17:10.640 --> 01:17:16.439 could hear people talking in their heads from two miles away. Wow. 1302 01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:20.239 So that was kind of that was kind of wild. 1303 01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:22.920 And then I was like, you know, I was at lunchtime. 1304 01:17:23.159 --> 01:17:25.600 I went out and saw some of my friends and 1305 01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:27.920 I go, hey, man, this thing's happened to me. I 1306 01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:30.439 met this guy blah blah blah blah, and I'm walking 1307 01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:33.359 closer to my friend right then when I got it 1308 01:17:33.359 --> 01:17:38.800 real up close to him, you know, I was like, whatever, 1309 01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:42.319 there's five feet away, and I saw this slide show. 1310 01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:44.920 I was looking at this guy. I saw a slide show. 1311 01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:47.960 The slide show was moments of this guy's life, but 1312 01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:52.439 you know, from childhood, being a kid getting ride in 1313 01:17:52.439 --> 01:17:56.000 his first bicycle, you know, and because and then went 1314 01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:58.000 at to where he was in the current time, and 1315 01:17:58.000 --> 01:17:59.479 then it went on to when he was getting made 1316 01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:03.640 and his kids and all as from birth, life to birth, 1317 01:18:04.399 --> 01:18:09.000 from birth to death. Right, that's called the ecastic records, 1318 01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:13.920 so well, that really did my head in. So I thought, well, okay, listen, 1319 01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:16.960 this whole enlightenment thing is a real deal. All that 1320 01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:19.600 stuff lasted, by the way, for like six weeks or 1321 01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:22.319 five weeks, you know, and then it kind of calmed 1322 01:18:22.359 --> 01:18:25.199 down because you know, I'm about to stick his brick 1323 01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:27.840 And it was just by being an association with this 1324 01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:30.800 really high guy for four hours that did all that 1325 01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:33.880 to me. So that'll turn me on, Like what does 1326 01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:36.920 it mean to be enlightened? What does that mean? And 1327 01:18:37.000 --> 01:18:39.119 so then I went around and looking for gurus, and 1328 01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:43.760 I found a good guru and got initiated and did 1329 01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:51.239 a lot of meditation, and so like when I started meditating, 1330 01:18:51.359 --> 01:18:53.840 I knew what was going on, so I wasn't fooling 1331 01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:56.439 around with this, like you know, fifteen minutes. It was 1332 01:18:56.479 --> 01:19:00.239 six hours a day. I did my meditation six hours day, 1333 01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:03.640 and I was working construction eight hours a day, so 1334 01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:06.399 that means two hours in the morning. Then right when 1335 01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:08.600 I came home from work, I'd do another two hours 1336 01:19:09.239 --> 01:19:12.279 and then we'd have dinner, and then then it was 1337 01:19:12.319 --> 01:19:15.960 two hours at night. So that was six hours a day. 1338 01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:17.840 Of course, that didn't last very long. And that was 1339 01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:21.359 only about six or eight months about that stuff. I 1340 01:19:21.399 --> 01:19:25.319 started having pretty profound experiences. Eventually, after a few years, 1341 01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:29.720 I actually saw God as the energy, the life forced 1342 01:19:29.720 --> 01:19:32.760 inside us. So that was like a much what you 1343 01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:40.439 would you would call a yogi, but had God realization 1344 01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:42.720 what God realization is, And a lot of people can 1345 01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:44.720 have God realization. You can do drugs and if you 1346 01:19:44.760 --> 01:19:47.319 see the bright light inside of your head or you 1347 01:19:47.439 --> 01:19:50.680 have a near death experience and you see that bright light, 1348 01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:54.720 the light of life, that's that's God realization. Enlightenment is 1349 01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:59.800 when that light turns on and never turns off. That's 1350 01:19:59.840 --> 01:20:02.039 the difference, you know what I'm saying. It's the same 1351 01:20:02.159 --> 01:20:04.760 kind of thing with Kundolini. You know when Kundolini goes 1352 01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:09.359 and your your turns on the things. So that's what 1353 01:20:09.399 --> 01:20:11.520 was happening. So I did that. I did that meditation 1354 01:20:11.640 --> 01:20:15.880 for like thirteen years, right, and had a pretty amazing life. 1355 01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:19.039 And and and the reason why I was doing it 1356 01:20:19.079 --> 01:20:21.960 is because I was so completely crushed as a human being. 1357 01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:26.079 And it's and you look at the people who become realized, 1358 01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:31.039 the people who are yogis, they usually you know, like Buddha, right, 1359 01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:33.960 Buddha was like a stick figure. You could see every 1360 01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:36.159 bone in his body when he received when he got 1361 01:20:36.159 --> 01:20:39.039 to enlightenment, because he was like denied himself. He was 1362 01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:41.159 so messed up, he was so screwed up in his head, 1363 01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:43.600 and he was so looking at the pain and suffering 1364 01:20:43.640 --> 01:20:45.720 of his own life and pain and suffering of the world. 1365 01:20:47.159 --> 01:20:49.840 And then he became enlightened, right, and he awoke and awoke. 1366 01:20:50.159 --> 01:20:53.920 This became That became Buddhism and a lot of a 1367 01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:56.600 lot of yogis. That's you know, you don't become God 1368 01:20:56.680 --> 01:21:01.439 realized just because you know it's a hobby like playing 1369 01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:05.399 with the Ouiji boat or something. You become realized because 1370 01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:08.640 you're in pain, man, and there's nothing there's nothing else 1371 01:21:08.680 --> 01:21:10.680 for you. Nothing can touch the pain that you're in 1372 01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:16.960 except God. Okay, so my last meditation was around nineteen 1373 01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:21.239 ninety and I was former crea yoga. The guy that 1374 01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:24.199 I actually was my guru was a living perfect master. 1375 01:21:24.279 --> 01:21:26.800 I won't tell you his name because I'm not selling gurus, 1376 01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:29.720 but anyway, this guy was the real deal. Had a 1377 01:21:29.720 --> 01:21:32.000 lot of followers, and he was in the same line 1378 01:21:32.039 --> 01:21:37.319 as as a Paramahansa Yoga nanda, you know, the Sri Yuktaff. 1379 01:21:37.520 --> 01:21:41.359 He was like in a real high level of the 1380 01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:45.399 lineage of Krea yoga, which is which is Roger yoga, 1381 01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:50.640 which is the highest yoga there is. Anyway, in nineteen ninety, 1382 01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:52.840 I was sitting underneath my tree, right out the front 1383 01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:55.680 front door of my house, and I did this meditation. 1384 01:21:55.800 --> 01:21:59.119 I didn't really give too much. I didn't care. After 1385 01:21:59.239 --> 01:22:02.399 thirteen years, I didn't really care anymore. So I did 1386 01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:08.439 this meditation and stuff started happening. It's like I didn't care. 1387 01:22:08.479 --> 01:22:10.520 I was just sitting there putting in my time. There 1388 01:22:10.600 --> 01:22:13.199 was a lot of habit and then I looked up 1389 01:22:13.239 --> 01:22:15.439 and I saw a universe and there was a stamp 1390 01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:17.600 of the universe inside of my head. I looked around 1391 01:22:17.640 --> 01:22:19.880 and I'm looking up. It's just like if you have 1392 01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:23.279 bifocal lenses. From here. Up was a universe. And I 1393 01:22:23.319 --> 01:22:25.720 looked up and there was all these stars there. And 1394 01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:29.840 then a voice said, Hey, how'd you like to be God? 1395 01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:33.399 We got this universe over here, and we're going to 1396 01:22:33.479 --> 01:22:36.079 give you this universe. We're going to give you this 1397 01:22:36.079 --> 01:22:38.960 this universe and you can be God in it. And 1398 01:22:39.039 --> 01:22:40.600 I was in a place where I didn't, you know, 1399 01:22:40.680 --> 01:22:43.720 I wasn't striving for God anymore. I was just being 1400 01:22:44.840 --> 01:22:48.600 And I thought, that's the that was hilarious that I said. 1401 01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:52.680 I said, whoever who's ever doing the human resources for 1402 01:22:52.760 --> 01:22:56.359 this God role, right, must have screwed up pretty bad 1403 01:22:56.439 --> 01:22:58.520 for them to want to come to talk to me 1404 01:22:58.920 --> 01:23:01.880 about being God one of their universes, you know what 1405 01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:04.439 I mean, Like, what, what's There's some kind of dysfunction 1406 01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:08.279 going on there with the with the human resources for 1407 01:23:08.399 --> 01:23:13.520 filling that role. So basically I said no. But but again, 1408 01:23:14.520 --> 01:23:18.560 that damn universe stayed inside my head for six weeks, 1409 01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:20.800 and I was doing at that time, I was doing 1410 01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:25.359 a what do you call I was being a I 1411 01:23:25.439 --> 01:23:27.399 was being a cabinet maker, right, So I'm all want 1412 01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:30.199 I'm working on table saws. We got a ten horsepower 1413 01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:32.520 table saw and panel saws and all this kind of stuff. 1414 01:23:32.720 --> 01:23:34.399 I'm sitting here and at the top of my head 1415 01:23:34.439 --> 01:23:36.359 still got a universe in it. So while my eyes 1416 01:23:36.359 --> 01:23:38.159 are open, I still have this universe. And I by 1417 01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:40.680 talking to my boss and he's trying to talk to me, 1418 01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:43.399 and and I can see him and then above him 1419 01:23:43.439 --> 01:23:46.680 and the toll top of my head three sixty is 1420 01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:51.119 this universe full stars, the galaxies and stuff, and uh 1421 01:23:51.560 --> 01:23:54.199 that that pretty much changed my head around. And then 1422 01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:57.600 then what happened after that is I went into like 1423 01:23:57.640 --> 01:24:01.399 a pretty serious, you know, a dark knight of the 1424 01:24:01.479 --> 01:24:05.479 soul and and which I didn't. It took me years 1425 01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:08.720 to realize that they were connected. That you know, if 1426 01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:10.600 you're going to be God, then you've got to go 1427 01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:13.600 over here and deal with your ship. Right. So, uh, 1428 01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:16.279 you know, my girlfriend left me, I lost my job. 1429 01:24:16.600 --> 01:24:20.720 You know, all this kind of stuff happened, and and 1430 01:24:21.520 --> 01:24:24.720 you know, the cat left me. Uh, all this kind 1431 01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:30.239 of stuff. And and I met a woman she said, hey, Mike, 1432 01:24:30.359 --> 01:24:32.239 you know you're you're not out of touch with your 1433 01:24:32.239 --> 01:24:34.960 emotional body. And and you know, here I am with 1434 01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:39.000 this great ego of the of the guru of the Yogi, 1435 01:24:39.119 --> 01:24:41.359 right and I didn't even know she was talking about it. 1436 01:24:41.359 --> 01:24:45.039 I said, what do you mean emotional body? So that 1437 01:24:45.159 --> 01:24:47.960 led me down the path of emotional healing. And that's 1438 01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:51.479 what I teach today. I teach emotional healing. And I 1439 01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:56.239 met some interesting people and uh, and I did primal 1440 01:24:56.359 --> 01:24:59.239 therapy and and a whole whole bunch of other kind 1441 01:24:59.239 --> 01:25:02.520 of stuff. And it took years. And then Eventually from that, 1442 01:25:02.680 --> 01:25:06.319 I started doing stuff that was right. It took concentration, 1443 01:25:06.640 --> 01:25:09.319 you know, because I had like concentration. You meditate for 1444 01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:12.000 thirteen years, you're gonna have concentration. I took my concentration 1445 01:25:12.800 --> 01:25:17.239 and I looked at how people got wounded and how 1446 01:25:17.239 --> 01:25:22.680 they heal right, and you know, it's real simple stuff, 1447 01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:26.840 Like all wounding happens from the outside end, right, Your 1448 01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:29.920 parents tell you this, your teachers, your bullies or whoever 1449 01:25:29.960 --> 01:25:32.640 they are. So it's happening from the outside, and it 1450 01:25:32.680 --> 01:25:35.720 goes into your head, scrambles around, goes down through your heart, 1451 01:25:36.680 --> 01:25:39.960 hits your emotional body, then goes out to your physical body, 1452 01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:42.840 and then you have dread or bad self image and 1453 01:25:42.920 --> 01:25:46.439 all this kind of stuff. And that becomes like your 1454 01:25:46.479 --> 01:25:49.039 programming for your life, like I'm not good enough, I'm 1455 01:25:49.079 --> 01:25:52.720 not worthy, blah blah blah, you know, something wrong with 1456 01:25:52.800 --> 01:25:57.640 me and all these kind of messages, right, and along 1457 01:25:57.680 --> 01:26:02.399 with that comes pain. You know, to feel like you're 1458 01:26:02.439 --> 01:26:05.119 not worthy is painful. It is crushing, you know what 1459 01:26:05.119 --> 01:26:10.600 I mean. So there's the words and then there's the feeling. 1460 01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:15.039 There's two things, the thoughts and the feelings. Thought and feeling, 1461 01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:21.000 which is spirit and will. So I ended up becoming 1462 01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:24.560 a workshop. This stuff started working, The stuff that I 1463 01:26:24.640 --> 01:26:27.880 was doing started working, and then I kind of codified 1464 01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:29.680 it a little bit, and then I looked hit the 1465 01:26:29.720 --> 01:26:32.159 books trying to figure out why this stuff was working 1466 01:26:32.199 --> 01:26:35.960 and why I could do, why I could do thirteen 1467 01:26:36.039 --> 01:26:38.640 years of meditation meet the highest you know stuff, and 1468 01:26:40.439 --> 01:26:43.800 that didn't touch my emotional body. That was a big deal. 1469 01:26:44.920 --> 01:26:50.000 Later on, later on I looked into it, and not 1470 01:26:50.039 --> 01:26:56.760 only does your childhood emotional issues, they're not affected by meditation, 1471 01:26:57.039 --> 01:27:01.239 They're not affected by full bloow Kundolini enlightenment. They're not 1472 01:27:01.279 --> 01:27:04.319 affected by a near death experience. You know what I'm saying. 1473 01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:08.600 You would think that these people who are having these extraordinary, 1474 01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:13.520 powerful spiritual experiences, that that would take care of the business. 1475 01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:18.399 And it's just not true because the stuff that happens 1476 01:27:18.439 --> 01:27:21.079 to you emotionally is on a different level. It is 1477 01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:24.960 on the content of your consciousness, not on the life force. 1478 01:27:25.439 --> 01:27:28.520 So you know, you can awaken your life force, but 1479 01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:32.840 that doesn't change the content of your consciousness. You're still you, right, 1480 01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:35.960 And if you had a lot of adversity, a lot 1481 01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:40.319 of trauma and drama growing up, it doesn't touch it. Right, 1482 01:27:41.039 --> 01:27:44.960 So that was like a pretty profound realization, you know 1483 01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:49.520 what I mean, you would think the exact opposite. People 1484 01:27:49.600 --> 01:27:53.640 want to become enlightened, people want to what it called, 1485 01:27:53.680 --> 01:27:55.960 they want to ascend, they want to raise their vibration, 1486 01:27:56.079 --> 01:27:58.359 they want to do all this kind of stuff. But 1487 01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:02.239 in reality, what's really the dog that's really binding them 1488 01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:05.880 as their emotional issues. And if you can resolve your 1489 01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:10.720 emotional issues, the whole need for ascension or enlightenment or Kundolini, 1490 01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:14.479 all that stuff just dissolves because you're doing all right, 1491 01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:16.199 you know. I mean, if you're doing all right, you're 1492 01:28:16.239 --> 01:28:19.079 doing all right, then you don't need all this. You 1493 01:28:19.119 --> 01:28:22.439 don't need unicorns and fixing dust to survive. 1494 01:28:22.840 --> 01:28:26.119 Yeah, man, you're exactly right. I kind of applied the 1495 01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:28.439 same thing in my life. It's just like, you know, 1496 01:28:28.479 --> 01:28:32.159 if you wake up and your room's a mess and 1497 01:28:32.239 --> 01:28:34.520 everything around you's a mess, and you got people that 1498 01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:38.199 don't like you, if you just make the simple changes 1499 01:28:38.319 --> 01:28:40.880 clean the mess, you know, why don't people like me? 1500 01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:45.000 Fix those you know, simple problems and doors open. It's 1501 01:28:45.079 --> 01:28:48.920 like an amazing transformative experience that just kind of opens 1502 01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:51.399 up for you just because you started to fix those 1503 01:28:51.439 --> 01:28:55.039 little things that were that were noticeably wrong with you, 1504 01:28:55.159 --> 01:28:57.479 starting with like a dirty room or making your bed 1505 01:28:57.560 --> 01:28:58.239 or things like that. 1506 01:28:58.359 --> 01:29:03.760 Right absolutely, it's like, you can't. You can't go out 1507 01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:06.399 to the yard of the shovel and put your foot 1508 01:29:06.399 --> 01:29:08.720 on the shovel and then lean on it and then 1509 01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:13.319 pray for a hole. You know, that's not that's not 1510 01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:15.600 the way God works, that's not the way the universe works. 1511 01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:18.880 You got to dig the hole, right, You can't. You 1512 01:29:18.920 --> 01:29:20.800 can't look at your house and go, man, I wish 1513 01:29:20.840 --> 01:29:23.640 you was clean. You know, my house is dirty, you know, 1514 01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:26.600 Please God, you know, Or I'm going to meditate, maybe 1515 01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:29.479 it'll clean the house. No, there's certain things that you 1516 01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:31.359 got to take care of yourself. You got to clean 1517 01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:33.960 your own house. You know. You got to fix the 1518 01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:36.720 flat on your tire. And then when you fix the 1519 01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:39.600 flat on the tire, guess what, the car's back in 1520 01:29:39.760 --> 01:29:45.520 factory specs, drives fine, no worries, you know. So that's 1521 01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:47.640 kind of what it's all about. And it's like, how 1522 01:29:47.640 --> 01:29:49.840 to fix the flat on the tire, how to clean 1523 01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:54.560 out your inner imprints and turmoil of stuff that happened 1524 01:29:54.600 --> 01:29:57.520 to you. And that's what I teach. I teach this 1525 01:29:57.640 --> 01:30:00.000 throat right now, and I have a presence on them 1526 01:30:00.159 --> 01:30:04.600 on Facebook. It's called Language Lessons of the Heart group. 1527 01:30:05.319 --> 01:30:09.760 And I have uh, you know, YouTube channel that's got 1528 01:30:09.800 --> 01:30:12.199 a playlist. So everything I do is for free, because 1529 01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:14.720 you know, I'm not here trying to make money. I'm 1530 01:30:14.760 --> 01:30:16.880 not trying to sell your used car. I'm not trying. 1531 01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:19.159 I'm not trying to tell you how bad your life 1532 01:30:19.239 --> 01:30:21.640 is and then I'm going to fix it. I don't 1533 01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:23.680 fix anybody, you know. I mean, all I do is 1534 01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:28.800 tell people what I did and how how consciousness works, 1535 01:30:28.840 --> 01:30:30.800 and if they want to do it, that's fine, if not, 1536 01:30:30.880 --> 01:30:34.319 because it's sort of like to change and to healing 1537 01:30:34.399 --> 01:30:38.720 involve your emotional body. It is like a spiritual path 1538 01:30:38.760 --> 01:30:41.920 in a way, because you shift from being out outer 1539 01:30:42.079 --> 01:30:45.520 directed to being interdirected, from seeking love on the outside 1540 01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:48.359 of seeking love on the inside, and that romance right there. 1541 01:30:49.279 --> 01:30:53.840 It's kind of sacred, right, that's the shift, you know. Uh. 1542 01:30:53.880 --> 01:30:57.239 And you know you can do a lot of political stuff. 1543 01:30:57.399 --> 01:30:59.720 Oh the history of this an Illuminati and that and 1544 01:30:59.720 --> 01:31:05.239 this that right, well, uh, that's that's all exterior, you 1545 01:31:05.319 --> 01:31:08.920 know what I mean. And how is it that we 1546 01:31:08.920 --> 01:31:13.239 can have two hundred years of predatory government, predatory schools, 1547 01:31:13.319 --> 01:31:21.239 predatory medicine, predatory lending, predatory religions. Right, how can we 1548 01:31:21.319 --> 01:31:24.319 have all that? Right? And then you say, well, we 1549 01:31:24.439 --> 01:31:27.359 got to form a new we got to form a 1550 01:31:27.399 --> 01:31:30.640 new government. When you ask people to form a new government, 1551 01:31:31.920 --> 01:31:36.439 they go blank. Right, Well, what would you do different? 1552 01:31:37.000 --> 01:31:38.560 If you were the president you got to start a 1553 01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:41.199 new government, what would you do different? They go blank? 1554 01:31:41.960 --> 01:31:44.720 And the reason is because the whole content of their 1555 01:31:44.720 --> 01:31:49.159 consciousness is in this cult cult culture, and the culture 1556 01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:52.439 is predatory. You are a slave to the boss, you're 1557 01:31:52.439 --> 01:31:55.880 a slave to the god, You're a slave to the laws. 1558 01:31:55.920 --> 01:31:57.319 And you know, let me say it's this whole thing 1559 01:31:57.439 --> 01:32:02.199 is slave mentality. And you have ze zero recognition or 1560 01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:06.399 cognition about what's going on inside of you. In fact, 1561 01:32:07.199 --> 01:32:11.399 the external government is a reflection of the internal is 1562 01:32:11.479 --> 01:32:14.319 of the internal government that we have. We've been programmed 1563 01:32:14.560 --> 01:32:17.359 to our so we are we are. We like to 1564 01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:22.159 think of ourselves as the as the president. And our 1565 01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:24.680 body is the body of the people. Our heart is 1566 01:32:24.680 --> 01:32:27.600 the heart of the people. Yeah, And if that and 1567 01:32:27.680 --> 01:32:32.439 that's exactly what happens, just like computers, right, computers are 1568 01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:35.079 based on the model of human consciousness. You know, we 1569 01:32:35.159 --> 01:32:37.920 have a computer that does you know, that does all 1570 01:32:37.920 --> 01:32:41.439 the work. Then we have memories and we have applications. Right, 1571 01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:46.000 So applications is what trauma and drama and the society 1572 01:32:46.119 --> 01:32:51.600 is applications. The laws is the application. Religion is an application, right, 1573 01:32:51.680 --> 01:32:57.039 So our what's outside is a reflection or or an 1574 01:32:57.159 --> 01:33:02.560 extension of what's inside. Yeah, And the reason why we can't, 1575 01:33:02.560 --> 01:33:05.680 the reason why we can't get a new government is 1576 01:33:05.720 --> 01:33:09.520 because we don't have the form of the internal government inside. 1577 01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:12.279 Once you get the form of the internal government inside, 1578 01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:14.840 then you can rock and roll. Yeah. 1579 01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:17.600 They should make all world leaders and the people in 1580 01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:22.760 high positions go through majorly transformative experiences and take care 1581 01:33:22.800 --> 01:33:25.560 of all their emotional shit before they even try and 1582 01:33:25.680 --> 01:33:26.319 rule anything. 1583 01:33:30.319 --> 01:33:34.359 That's the game, right, that's the inner game, right, because 1584 01:33:34.920 --> 01:33:37.399 if you you know, you vote ship in, you're gonna 1585 01:33:37.439 --> 01:33:41.079 get shipped out again. So you know, we're not we're 1586 01:33:41.079 --> 01:33:46.239 not getting statesmans. We're getting cartoon characters. And I'm including Trump. 1587 01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:48.640 I'm including Trump in this this whole thing. You know, 1588 01:33:49.119 --> 01:33:52.119 I'm not a I'm not a Trump romantic. That guy 1589 01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:54.520 he has he has his issues too. To me, it's 1590 01:33:54.560 --> 01:33:57.199 just like to me, it's what's going on out there 1591 01:33:57.279 --> 01:34:00.439 is two different mafias, you know, like there's the uh, 1592 01:34:01.439 --> 01:34:05.239 the Kazari and mafia, and then there's the what do 1593 01:34:05.319 --> 01:34:08.920 you call it, Russian mafia and that's something they're all 1594 01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:13.359 trying to, you know, fight over the world. But anyway, 1595 01:34:13.399 --> 01:34:18.319 that is also a reflection of us, because we have, uh, 1596 01:34:18.680 --> 01:34:24.960 what really runs the world is denials, right, we deny 1597 01:34:25.239 --> 01:34:27.960 and let me tell you how bad it is. Let 1598 01:34:27.960 --> 01:34:30.319 me tell you how bad it is. You've heard about 1599 01:34:30.359 --> 01:34:33.920 the elites and the movie stars and the government that 1600 01:34:33.960 --> 01:34:37.439 they like take adrenal clone, right, and they have kids 1601 01:34:38.039 --> 01:34:41.520 and where the kids are like traffic, right, and uh, 1602 01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:43.520 the children are trafficking and then they put them in 1603 01:34:43.600 --> 01:34:49.960 underground tunnels. Yeah, and then they torture the kids. Well, 1604 01:34:51.399 --> 01:34:54.359 how does how does that? How does the inside reflect 1605 01:34:54.399 --> 01:34:59.079 the outside? You know? And it works exactly the same way. 1606 01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:03.079 We have trauma or drama that gets imprinted into our 1607 01:35:03.119 --> 01:35:07.560 emotional body, right, and that's the inner child, and that 1608 01:35:07.640 --> 01:35:13.760 inner child becomes our shadow, becomes our inner demons. Right, 1609 01:35:14.319 --> 01:35:18.000 So we suppress that the emotions, the pain and the suffering. 1610 01:35:18.319 --> 01:35:23.359 We suppress the suffering of our own emotional body, which 1611 01:35:23.439 --> 01:35:28.520 increases the pain of the inner child, so that we 1612 01:35:29.159 --> 01:35:32.560 can live an adult life, have fun, make our money, 1613 01:35:32.760 --> 01:35:34.520 get married, and all that kind of stuff. You see 1614 01:35:34.520 --> 01:35:38.560 what I'm saying, We sacrifice. It's a one to one correlation, 1615 01:35:39.119 --> 01:35:43.800 you know. You see what I'm saying, And our childhood 1616 01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:48.239 experiences right now are like not good. They're not good 1617 01:35:50.119 --> 01:35:50.560 for sure. 1618 01:35:52.039 --> 01:35:56.800 It's a generation and generation of multi generational trauma that's 1619 01:35:56.840 --> 01:35:59.920 being applied to people to keep us in this state 1620 01:36:00.159 --> 01:36:03.520 of fear and trauma and non growth and non spiritual growth, 1621 01:36:03.560 --> 01:36:06.000 which is you know, one of the problems we're facing. 1622 01:36:06.279 --> 01:36:08.079 I want to go back to a second, to one 1623 01:36:08.079 --> 01:36:12.159 of your transformative experiences. You had what you called three 1624 01:36:12.239 --> 01:36:16.319 days of bliss, crying and laughing from a holy water. 1625 01:36:16.359 --> 01:36:17.319 Can could you tell us. 1626 01:36:17.239 --> 01:36:20.079 A little bit about that? That was cool? Well, well, 1627 01:36:20.359 --> 01:36:24.199 the guru at the time, yeah, like I said, that 1628 01:36:24.279 --> 01:36:25.960 was back in the like it's back in the heyday. 1629 01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:29.239 Then the guru guru at the time, they had yet 1630 01:36:29.319 --> 01:36:32.039 that holy they had a holy thing, you know, that's 1631 01:36:32.079 --> 01:36:34.680 where you take the colored water and stuff. But he 1632 01:36:34.680 --> 01:36:39.840 he had a lot of people, uh, in the community 1633 01:36:39.880 --> 01:36:44.560 all around the United States, and I remember where there was. 1634 01:36:44.560 --> 01:36:46.760 Oh yeah, they were going to have this the Holy 1635 01:36:46.800 --> 01:36:49.960 in the Orange Bowl, right, get all the devotees around 1636 01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:51.319 the world are going to go to the Orange Bowl. 1637 01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:56.199 And and to do that, we had they got a 1638 01:36:56.199 --> 01:36:59.479 a fire truck and then a fire truck. They had 1639 01:36:59.800 --> 01:37:02.159 fire truck hooked up so they could hook it up 1640 01:37:02.159 --> 01:37:07.159 to one of these fire hose kind of like water cannons, 1641 01:37:07.239 --> 01:37:08.760 right that they that they used to put it fires. 1642 01:37:08.840 --> 01:37:11.840 I think MEANGI could go out, you know, fifty yards 1643 01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:16.760 or so or eighty yards. So we were testing it, right. 1644 01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:20.439 This was before the Holy Program, so they were testing it. 1645 01:37:20.479 --> 01:37:23.199 So they built their big, big scaffold. I was helping 1646 01:37:23.239 --> 01:37:25.239 them build a scaffle because I was construction guys. So 1647 01:37:25.239 --> 01:37:28.760 they're building a scaffold, right, And then that day the 1648 01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:31.560 gurus showed up and were good, was going to test it, 1649 01:37:31.840 --> 01:37:34.279 and so we were all like playing and we're having fun. 1650 01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:37.319 It was called Service and we're just playing around to 1651 01:37:37.399 --> 01:37:39.680 test this thing. It was in a park on South 1652 01:37:39.760 --> 01:37:43.239 Beach and so they fires up. He fires up this 1653 01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:46.840 thing and there was like about four or five of 1654 01:37:46.920 --> 01:37:49.039 us that were still on the top level, which was 1655 01:37:49.079 --> 01:37:50.960 even see he was on an island in the middle, 1656 01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:53.239 and we had a big circle of scaffold. It was 1657 01:37:53.319 --> 01:37:55.479 like two layers high, so because he had to be 1658 01:37:55.560 --> 01:37:58.680 high to shoot out and this was a test, and 1659 01:37:58.720 --> 01:38:00.960 so he was he was playing around with the gun 1660 01:38:01.000 --> 01:38:02.800 and at one point he turned that gun and hit 1661 01:38:02.840 --> 01:38:05.720 me on the chest. And when he hit me on 1662 01:38:05.760 --> 01:38:08.800 the chest, he was putting his energy right into it. Right, 1663 01:38:09.319 --> 01:38:12.079 you're taking. You're taking like the normal guy, and you 1664 01:38:12.199 --> 01:38:16.520 put you put God life force. That's what those guys. 1665 01:38:16.560 --> 01:38:22.039 The Guru's Guru means, uh, darkness and light. The Guru 1666 01:38:22.119 --> 01:38:25.319 is the the speller of darkness and the revealer of light. 1667 01:38:25.359 --> 01:38:28.279 That's what Guru means. So he hit me like that 1668 01:38:28.800 --> 01:38:30.720 and it was just like that was just like I 1669 01:38:30.800 --> 01:38:33.720 just went into bliss and I was like completely drunk. 1670 01:38:34.359 --> 01:38:38.359 I just I couldn't function, couldn't talk. I could barely 1671 01:38:38.600 --> 01:38:41.399 walk to my car, you know, I just dropped everything, 1672 01:38:41.640 --> 01:38:44.520 walked to my car, started up, went home and it 1673 01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:47.920 was just laughing and crying and laughing. And for three 1674 01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:54.960 days it was just intoxicating bliss. Yeah. And that's you know, 1675 01:38:55.039 --> 01:39:01.560 you only you only get you only get bliss by 1676 01:39:01.960 --> 01:39:06.399 by by comparison. Right, you have to have a higher 1677 01:39:06.520 --> 01:39:10.600 vibration and uh and and then there's a separation between 1678 01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:13.159 the higher vibration where you are and when you get 1679 01:39:13.159 --> 01:39:16.279 brought up to the higher vibration, that's a blissful experience. 1680 01:39:16.479 --> 01:39:19.359 And you listen to the people who have near death experience, 1681 01:39:19.560 --> 01:39:22.319 they all talk about this. They go from being a 1682 01:39:22.319 --> 01:39:25.199 physical body up to a spiritual body and they get 1683 01:39:25.199 --> 01:39:29.520 all blissed out. But in reality, we're all blissed out 1684 01:39:29.600 --> 01:39:33.439 all the time, which is kind of a shock, you know. 1685 01:39:33.439 --> 01:39:35.399 I mean, we're enlightened all the time. We're blissed out 1686 01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:37.159 all the time. The only thing is our level of 1687 01:39:37.159 --> 01:39:41.560 connection to it. There is no there's no actual enlightenment 1688 01:39:42.479 --> 01:39:44.640 as we think of it as enlightened. It's not something 1689 01:39:44.680 --> 01:39:47.319 you attain. It's something that's already there, and all of 1690 01:39:47.359 --> 01:39:50.079 a sudden, just the door opens. So it's already there 1691 01:39:50.119 --> 01:39:53.359 were we already have everything we need, we're already super conscious, 1692 01:39:53.359 --> 01:39:55.880 we're already all that kind of stuff. But there's it's 1693 01:39:55.920 --> 01:40:00.359 these it's the it's the stuff in our conscious business, 1694 01:40:00.600 --> 01:40:04.720 the content of our consciousness, Like Christian and Murdy says, 1695 01:40:04.880 --> 01:40:08.359 the content of your consciousness is what's divisive and holds 1696 01:40:08.359 --> 01:40:13.079 you back. So that's why we don't walk around feeling 1697 01:40:13.079 --> 01:40:15.279 and bliss all the time. There was a time, I 1698 01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:18.239 tell you, there was a time that I was I 1699 01:40:18.439 --> 01:40:21.960 just like, I'm feeling exactly how I feel now, right, 1700 01:40:23.039 --> 01:40:26.399 which was like exactly how you feel right now. But 1701 01:40:26.520 --> 01:40:29.119 I was so high that that I remember some people 1702 01:40:29.159 --> 01:40:30.960 came over to the house one day and I was 1703 01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:33.399 walking next to my friend, right, I was talking about 1704 01:40:33.399 --> 01:40:35.720 something and I was teaching something or something like that, 1705 01:40:36.399 --> 01:40:37.960 and this guy was sitting on the floor and he 1706 01:40:37.960 --> 01:40:39.479 looked up at him and said, you know when you 1707 01:40:39.560 --> 01:40:43.720 walk past when you walk past me, my whole head 1708 01:40:43.760 --> 01:40:48.840 fills up with blue light. Right, And here I am 1709 01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:51.479 talking to you now and you're listening to me now, right. 1710 01:40:51.920 --> 01:40:56.000 I felt none of that, right, He felt it because 1711 01:40:56.000 --> 01:41:01.239 of the separation of his vibration to my vibe. But 1712 01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:05.279 so the point is you cannot actually tell how high 1713 01:41:05.279 --> 01:41:09.680 you are, and you can't tell how high you're not. Well. 1714 01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:11.760 Usually when you do drugs, you find out how high 1715 01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:15.600 you're not just depressing side of doing drugs. 1716 01:41:15.399 --> 01:41:19.479 Right, man, that's incredible. I want to talk about some 1717 01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:24.520 of your most profound, unexplained experiences when it comes to 1718 01:41:24.840 --> 01:41:28.880 contact or other worldly beings or extraterrestrials and things of 1719 01:41:28.880 --> 01:41:31.439 that nature. I know earlier you were also telling me 1720 01:41:31.640 --> 01:41:34.279 about some of the sasquatch work you're doing. I want 1721 01:41:34.279 --> 01:41:41.600 to get to that too. But you've had experiences with extraterrestrials. 1722 01:41:40.159 --> 01:41:49.279 Yeah, I did. Again, so could I How could I 1723 01:41:49.399 --> 01:41:55.520 frame this well? Anyway? Going back to that story of 1724 01:41:55.640 --> 01:41:57.399 doing my healing sor right right after I did my 1725 01:41:57.479 --> 01:42:00.920 healing thing, I did, I put together the workshop, did 1726 01:42:00.920 --> 01:42:02.760 a couple of workshops in the United States, and I 1727 01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:06.560 did a couple of workshops in Jamaica on emotional healing, 1728 01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:10.159 and that was really powerful to do. In a workshop business. 1729 01:42:10.159 --> 01:42:12.760 We had people who were remembering the beginning of creation 1730 01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:19.399 and people who saw the original incident of death and 1731 01:42:19.439 --> 01:42:28.800 stuff like that. So I ran out of gas right 1732 01:42:29.319 --> 01:42:33.399 in terms of having the like I was like like, basically, 1733 01:42:33.720 --> 01:42:35.479 like I told you, I didn't know how to learn 1734 01:42:35.520 --> 01:42:38.319 how to talk convent, you know, conversationally until I was 1735 01:42:38.359 --> 01:42:40.399 twenty one years old. So here I am now in 1736 01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:46.079 my thirties and forties, and I did all this stuff 1737 01:42:46.279 --> 01:42:49.039 just to get myself back up to a normal Right. 1738 01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:52.680 That's basically what you do. You try to get yourself 1739 01:42:52.720 --> 01:42:55.279 back up to normal. But I ran out of gas 1740 01:42:55.279 --> 01:42:58.359 in terms of setting up and promoting workshops and doing 1741 01:42:58.399 --> 01:43:01.159 that kind of stuff because I was I was not 1742 01:43:01.199 --> 01:43:05.119 a networker and I no idea about business. I was 1743 01:43:05.159 --> 01:43:07.600 a carpenter and you know, a cabinet maker and stuff. 1744 01:43:08.079 --> 01:43:10.880 So I ran out of gas, and I thought, well, 1745 01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:12.920 I got back to work, and so I just put 1746 01:43:12.960 --> 01:43:16.479 all my healing stuff on the table and I just 1747 01:43:16.520 --> 01:43:19.359 got into paying my bills and paying my debts off 1748 01:43:19.399 --> 01:43:25.239 and stuff like that. So that was basically like a 1749 01:43:25.239 --> 01:43:28.239 post healing part of my life. So it did all 1750 01:43:28.239 --> 01:43:31.239 this emotions. There was a God realization part of my life, 1751 01:43:31.239 --> 01:43:33.439 and then there was the emotional healing part of my life. 1752 01:43:33.640 --> 01:43:35.880 This was post healing, which was kind of like how 1753 01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:37.720 to integrate all this stuff is just to live a 1754 01:43:37.760 --> 01:43:40.720 normal life, which is pretty cool to live a normal life. 1755 01:43:41.640 --> 01:43:45.399 And then then that went on till you know, two 1756 01:43:45.479 --> 01:43:49.520 thy and ten and eleven twelve, and then you know, 1757 01:43:49.680 --> 01:43:51.800 by then the economy was down and I kind of 1758 01:43:52.119 --> 01:43:55.720 was kind of had to force retirement. And then the 1759 01:43:55.760 --> 01:43:59.199 Internet came along, and I thought, well, if I'm going 1760 01:43:59.279 --> 01:44:01.359 to do the internet, Internet, I can't really do my 1761 01:44:01.439 --> 01:44:04.159 workshop business, because I don't know how to do that right. 1762 01:44:04.800 --> 01:44:08.159 So I started putting out my memoirs. I thought, well, 1763 01:44:08.159 --> 01:44:10.359 listen to stuff that happened to me, some pretty incredible. 1764 01:44:10.399 --> 01:44:13.520 So I put my memoirs out there, and I started 1765 01:44:13.560 --> 01:44:17.359 describing how to heal involve your emotional emotional body. And 1766 01:44:17.680 --> 01:44:21.760 I started having a like a presence of that there. 1767 01:44:22.640 --> 01:44:28.119 And along the same time around from twenty twelve to 1768 01:44:28.199 --> 01:44:31.560 twenty fourteen or something, you know, I saw some uf 1769 01:44:31.600 --> 01:44:34.239 I had some problems with UFOs. Right in twenty twelve. 1770 01:44:34.239 --> 01:44:38.439 I had some problems with the UFOs, and these gray 1771 01:44:38.479 --> 01:44:41.239 guys came and got me, right, I got a video. 1772 01:44:41.239 --> 01:44:42.760 I got a video what they did. They came and 1773 01:44:42.760 --> 01:44:44.800 got me, and they put their fingerprints all over me 1774 01:44:44.880 --> 01:44:49.800 and stuff and and and then I woke up pissed 1775 01:44:49.840 --> 01:44:53.399 off in a craft. I woke pissed off. Said what 1776 01:44:53.439 --> 01:44:55.119 the hell are these guys doing. I said, you guys 1777 01:44:55.119 --> 01:44:58.199 have no right to pick me up without talking to me. 1778 01:44:58.319 --> 01:45:01.279 And I has no agreement here, there's no soul contract, 1779 01:45:01.800 --> 01:45:04.760 you know. And I got pissed right. Meanwhile, I'm just 1780 01:45:04.800 --> 01:45:06.680 sort of like sitting in this place in their in 1781 01:45:06.720 --> 01:45:11.159 their in their craft, and and I and I saw 1782 01:45:11.199 --> 01:45:13.720 that they had control of my leg control my body. 1783 01:45:13.760 --> 01:45:16.319 I said, oh, well, guess what if they got control 1784 01:45:16.359 --> 01:45:18.840 of my body they have that means they have to 1785 01:45:18.880 --> 01:45:21.359 have somebody in control of my body. That means that 1786 01:45:21.439 --> 01:45:24.680 somebody's focusing on my energy being. So I said, that 1787 01:45:24.720 --> 01:45:26.800 means there's a two way connection here. So what I 1788 01:45:26.840 --> 01:45:30.960 started doing is I started projecting to them that they're 1789 01:45:31.319 --> 01:45:33.880 covered in ants, right, that there were ants inside of them, 1790 01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:36.399 all bite biting them right. And as soon as I 1791 01:45:36.439 --> 01:45:39.880 start projected that energy into side them, because they couldn't 1792 01:45:39.880 --> 01:45:43.079 break the connection to me or else, i'd, you know, 1793 01:45:43.359 --> 01:45:47.279 I'd get up. So they started running around. These little 1794 01:45:47.319 --> 01:45:50.760 gray alien guys have started running around. They started panicking stuff. 1795 01:45:51.119 --> 01:45:53.039 And then then as soon as I saw a reaction 1796 01:45:53.159 --> 01:45:55.199 out of I thought, okay, I'm going to burn them 1797 01:45:55.199 --> 01:45:58.239 on fire. Just the imagination of them being burned on 1798 01:45:58.520 --> 01:46:01.239 burned alive or burned from the inside out. And they 1799 01:46:01.239 --> 01:46:04.399 were like zipping around and uh, they didn't know what 1800 01:46:04.439 --> 01:46:05.880 to do. And then they try then to try to 1801 01:46:05.880 --> 01:46:07.840 push me off. And as soon as they try to 1802 01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:11.560 push me back down into my body, I was like 1803 01:46:11.640 --> 01:46:13.720 holding on. It's like I'm going to let these guys 1804 01:46:13.760 --> 01:46:14.920 know where it were. It's at. 1805 01:46:16.399 --> 01:46:18.960 This you would say this took place in an astral 1806 01:46:18.960 --> 01:46:21.720 type of realm, It's uh. 1807 01:46:21.840 --> 01:46:24.840 It's five d astral. I don't know what you I 1808 01:46:24.880 --> 01:46:28.000 don't know what you want to call it. You. I 1809 01:46:28.039 --> 01:46:30.920 felt my body, I felt their presence, I felt you know, 1810 01:46:30.960 --> 01:46:33.039 So so there was a feeling there. I wasn't just 1811 01:46:34.119 --> 01:46:37.560 dream like. So it was whatever it was, whether it's 1812 01:46:37.560 --> 01:46:41.840 a construct, uh or I'm not really sure how to 1813 01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:43.680 do it. How it is. There's there's a lot of 1814 01:46:43.720 --> 01:46:47.399 people have theories on how that works. Dream Time is 1815 01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:51.239 definitely different than this construct, and the construct is a 1816 01:46:51.279 --> 01:46:55.439 little bit different than actually being invited on and uh, 1817 01:46:55.520 --> 01:46:58.600 you know, talking to them and you're you know, flying 1818 01:46:58.640 --> 01:47:04.640 the craft or whatever different ways that works out. So anyway, 1819 01:47:04.680 --> 01:47:06.680 that got me in touch with the Then then I 1820 01:47:06.720 --> 01:47:11.039 started like looking into UFOs and stuff and there was 1821 01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:14.640 a guy. There was a guy in my neighborhood, not 1822 01:47:14.720 --> 01:47:16.520 my neighborhood, but like within a couple of miles of 1823 01:47:16.600 --> 01:47:19.720 You're called Ray Hernandez. 1824 01:47:21.239 --> 01:47:25.560 Check out our friends at Linquistity Gifts. 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And big circle was consciousness, 1843 01:48:38.479 --> 01:48:43.600 all the kind of paranormal stuff esp and Luigi boards 1844 01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:47.600 and meditation and you know, all this kind of the 1845 01:48:47.600 --> 01:48:50.640 whole thing was the whole plethora of the whole circle 1846 01:48:52.119 --> 01:48:56.119 of what we call paranormal. And they gave him the dictate. 1847 01:48:56.640 --> 01:49:02.560 They gave him the dictate to you know, study the 1848 01:49:02.640 --> 01:49:06.800 connection between all the different paranormal stuff, right, and then 1849 01:49:06.800 --> 01:49:09.399 that's where he did the whole thing. So I was like, 1850 01:49:10.359 --> 01:49:12.199 I was like friends with him and we'd call on 1851 01:49:12.199 --> 01:49:14.520 the phone every once in a while. Meanwhile he gets 1852 01:49:14.560 --> 01:49:18.279 like eleven PhDs and doctor edgar Mitchell and get us 1853 01:49:18.279 --> 01:49:20.439 the whole thing going on. So that was that was 1854 01:49:20.479 --> 01:49:22.800 another whole part of the part of the mix. This 1855 01:49:22.920 --> 01:49:25.840 was the lead up to this time when I was taken. 1856 01:49:25.960 --> 01:49:32.439 So I had already had my language lessons of heart 1857 01:49:32.479 --> 01:49:36.560 done right, and uh, and I'm friends with Mary Rodwell 1858 01:49:36.640 --> 01:49:39.359 and Ray hor Nanis and a bunch of other people. 1859 01:49:40.199 --> 01:49:43.880 And but I never thought of myself as having a 1860 01:49:43.920 --> 01:49:47.399 mission on Earth, right, And it was dolorous. Cannon was 1861 01:49:47.439 --> 01:49:50.279 talking about people have missions on Earth, and then Mary 1862 01:49:50.399 --> 01:49:52.279 Rodwell was talking about, well, you know, you come here 1863 01:49:52.319 --> 01:49:55.560 with a mission. You know, the Indigo people have this 1864 01:49:55.720 --> 01:50:00.359 mission to raise a vibration this that, And never occurred 1865 01:50:00.399 --> 01:50:02.079 to me that this all of stuff that happened to 1866 01:50:02.119 --> 01:50:04.840 me in my life, Like I met four enlightened man, 1867 01:50:04.960 --> 01:50:09.239 one enlightened sod squatch and and been initiated three three 1868 01:50:09.279 --> 01:50:12.239 different times. And you don't hear about people being initiated 1869 01:50:12.279 --> 01:50:18.319 into meditation three different times just doesn't happen. So, uh, 1870 01:50:19.279 --> 01:50:20.840 I was in my bed one night, I just got 1871 01:50:20.880 --> 01:50:23.920 taken on this craft and these guys I think, I 1872 01:50:23.920 --> 01:50:26.000 think they were Syrians, but I have no idea who 1873 01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:28.960 they were. They had like this white head sock on 1874 01:50:29.439 --> 01:50:33.600 and a black uniform and they're a little bit short 1875 01:50:33.600 --> 01:50:35.079 of me. I'm six feet tall and a little bit 1876 01:50:35.119 --> 01:50:38.479 shorter than me. And uh so it said, they take 1877 01:50:38.560 --> 01:50:42.800 me on this craft and or it was a base 1878 01:50:42.880 --> 01:50:46.000 somewhere I don't really know or was it. So then 1879 01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:47.920 they put me on the stage and they said, okay, 1880 01:50:48.399 --> 01:50:52.760 we want you to give you a report, and I 1881 01:50:52.800 --> 01:50:57.960 go what report? I had no clue. Right, Well, report, 1882 01:50:58.039 --> 01:51:01.079 they said, well, you know your lord on how people 1883 01:51:01.119 --> 01:51:05.359 got so wounded and how to heal them, right, And 1884 01:51:05.399 --> 01:51:10.800 I said, okay, So I started I started giving my report. 1885 01:51:11.239 --> 01:51:15.760 Now me, uh, before this doing doing emotional release work 1886 01:51:15.840 --> 01:51:18.600 right and doing the healing work that I do. You 1887 01:51:18.640 --> 01:51:20.960 know or you heard about people talking about lifetimes, right, 1888 01:51:21.079 --> 01:51:24.119 getting your memory back from lifetimes and you know how 1889 01:51:24.119 --> 01:51:26.880 to get your memories back and all that kind of stuff, right, Well, 1890 01:51:26.880 --> 01:51:30.079 when you do emotional healing work, the deep emotional healing work, 1891 01:51:30.119 --> 01:51:33.000 you get your memories back. And the reason why you 1892 01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:37.680 get your memories back is this. If you suppress an event, 1893 01:51:37.720 --> 01:51:41.279 and in one lifetime of an event, an emotional event, 1894 01:51:41.319 --> 01:51:45.079 whether it's a broken heart or childhood abuse or being 1895 01:51:45.199 --> 01:51:47.439 killed or raped or murdered. When you when you have 1896 01:51:47.520 --> 01:51:50.640 these heavy duty things lifetime after lifetime, you suppress them. 1897 01:51:50.680 --> 01:51:54.439 In one lifetime, you suppress them next lifetime. That means 1898 01:51:54.439 --> 01:51:58.840 you don't remember that pain. But suppression doesn't work, for 1899 01:51:59.520 --> 01:52:02.800 it's not surgical. When you suppress one memory, it just 1900 01:52:02.840 --> 01:52:07.079 suppresses right across, right across the board. Right. So if 1901 01:52:07.079 --> 01:52:10.159 you had if you were tortured in uh, let's say 1902 01:52:10.199 --> 01:52:15.279 the women who are tortured in the Spanish inquisition of 1903 01:52:15.359 --> 01:52:19.680 Portuguese inquisition, you know, they may not remember that. They 1904 01:52:19.760 --> 01:52:22.039 may not remember all those lifetimes, or they may not 1905 01:52:22.119 --> 01:52:25.600 remember any lifetime before that or after that, because it's 1906 01:52:25.640 --> 01:52:31.439 the suppression, the suppression of the memory, right that. But 1907 01:52:31.520 --> 01:52:33.640 when you when you go in and you start dealing 1908 01:52:33.640 --> 01:52:36.960 with your pain face to face, then the memory come 1909 01:52:37.039 --> 01:52:39.640 back because pain is part of reality. And if you 1910 01:52:40.319 --> 01:52:43.760 embrace and accept the pain anyway, all my memories came back, 1911 01:52:44.680 --> 01:52:52.800 and so I spent the first three hours talking about 1912 01:52:53.439 --> 01:52:56.800 the emergence, the emergence of God the Father and God 1913 01:52:56.880 --> 01:53:00.720 the Mother and what happened, what was going on. This 1914 01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:05.640 was before creation, which we spent a really really long 1915 01:53:05.720 --> 01:53:08.399 time before creation, before there was a God, before there 1916 01:53:08.439 --> 01:53:10.319 was a mother, before there was creation, before it was 1917 01:53:10.319 --> 01:53:12.720 a godhead, before there was matter, before there was anything 1918 01:53:12.720 --> 01:53:17.199 that was just energy and consciousness is the feeling of 1919 01:53:17.359 --> 01:53:21.760 energy and the Great Mother of everything, the Great Mother 1920 01:53:21.880 --> 01:53:25.560 of everything, which is that darkness and space that embraces 1921 01:53:25.600 --> 01:53:28.079 and holds all the planets and all the stars and 1922 01:53:28.119 --> 01:53:31.039 all the galaxies. She holds all that within her. But 1923 01:53:32.279 --> 01:53:38.039 her nature is absolute inclusivity and unconditional love. So everything 1924 01:53:38.119 --> 01:53:41.800 is included, what can be, what can what was, what 1925 01:53:41.920 --> 01:53:46.800 can be, what will be, everything and the probabilities. But 1926 01:53:47.760 --> 01:53:53.239 it doesn't have a rational material mind, and she doesn't 1927 01:53:53.319 --> 01:53:57.520 have a locality. In other words, I'm an identity because 1928 01:53:57.560 --> 01:53:59.760 I'm in this body, in this chair talking at this time. 1929 01:54:00.159 --> 01:54:03.279 Locality she didn't have that. She didn't have a mind, 1930 01:54:03.319 --> 01:54:05.600 she didn't have self image, she'd have words to have 1931 01:54:05.720 --> 01:54:07.039 any of that kind of stuff that went on for 1932 01:54:07.079 --> 01:54:10.279 a very long time. What she did have is conflicting, 1933 01:54:12.520 --> 01:54:17.880 conflicting energies like I want and I don't want, right 1934 01:54:18.760 --> 01:54:22.000 mm hm, which were which I'm saying the word want, 1935 01:54:22.079 --> 01:54:24.920 But you're talking about a field the size of a 1936 01:54:25.319 --> 01:54:30.159 supercluster of galaxies. This is a field of energy that's 1937 01:54:30.199 --> 01:54:35.199 moving or expressing and it's not it's not words, it's 1938 01:54:35.279 --> 01:54:38.920 just energy moving. And then there's energy that's not moving 1939 01:54:38.960 --> 01:54:41.640 that wants to stay still. So when the energy that moves, 1940 01:54:42.560 --> 01:54:45.000 the energy that moves is moving next to the energy 1941 01:54:45.079 --> 01:54:50.520 that that is not moving, there's there's a that produces 1942 01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:52.760 like this kind of a desire energy. So there's the 1943 01:54:52.880 --> 01:54:57.840 there's the unmoving, and then the moving and when that happens. Uh. 1944 01:54:57.960 --> 01:55:02.800 The nature of the Mother is absolute inclusivity and unconditional love. 1945 01:55:02.880 --> 01:55:06.560 That means she's inclusive, inclusive right and inclusive is a 1946 01:55:06.640 --> 01:55:12.159 kind of gravity. It's a kind of magnetism, right, acceptance, inclusiveness. 1947 01:55:12.520 --> 01:55:17.399 So like it took it took three hours to explain 1948 01:55:17.439 --> 01:55:21.359 how this actually worked without without words, without a point 1949 01:55:21.359 --> 01:55:24.720 of view, without a perspective, without a location, right on 1950 01:55:24.800 --> 01:55:27.359 a massive giant scale, it's hard to kind of talk 1951 01:55:27.399 --> 01:55:31.399 about it. But when she did that, right, that that 1952 01:55:33.079 --> 01:55:37.760 magnetic field, the stationary in the magnetic field was moving 1953 01:55:38.119 --> 01:55:44.800 created a current, right, Magnetic fields create current, and as 1954 01:55:44.840 --> 01:55:47.880 soon as it made a current, that current went forth 1955 01:55:48.680 --> 01:55:51.960 and that was the beginning of the first creation. Now 1956 01:55:52.000 --> 01:55:55.199 that current moved forward, which was her desire, her will, 1957 01:55:55.399 --> 01:55:59.399 her wish, her wont She's the divine will. So there's 1958 01:55:59.439 --> 01:56:03.600 this guy. The Father is the spirit and uh, she's 1959 01:56:03.640 --> 01:56:06.479 the will of God or the Mother of God or 1960 01:56:06.520 --> 01:56:08.680 the or the wife of God, which is will. So 1961 01:56:08.680 --> 01:56:13.680 it's basically thoughts and feelings, spirit and will, man and woman, 1962 01:56:14.920 --> 01:56:18.640 electric and magnetic. That's where it all comes from. This huge, 1963 01:56:18.840 --> 01:56:22.720 this actual space itself. Everything comes from nothing and then 1964 01:56:22.760 --> 01:56:26.279 nothing is the absolute and inclusivity of and unconditional love. 1965 01:56:26.359 --> 01:56:30.199 So I'm here talking to these guys about that. And 1966 01:56:32.079 --> 01:56:37.239 it took three hours to get to get to the 1967 01:56:37.439 --> 01:56:40.199 to the beginning of the first creation, and then it 1968 01:56:40.279 --> 01:56:45.319 took another two hours to talk about the first creation. 1969 01:56:46.239 --> 01:56:53.000 And the first creation is uh is when when they 1970 01:56:53.079 --> 01:56:55.640 see it gets really kind of complicated. It's hard to 1971 01:56:55.720 --> 01:56:58.279 put it in simple terms, but it was the creation 1972 01:56:58.399 --> 01:57:02.800 of consciousness as a as an energy. So as the 1973 01:57:02.800 --> 01:57:07.479 mother of everything is absolutely inclusive, the father energy is exclusive. 1974 01:57:09.319 --> 01:57:13.319 She's dark. He's light and exclusive. So that's where the 1975 01:57:13.720 --> 01:57:16.880 his the identity of the I am. The i am 1976 01:57:17.039 --> 01:57:22.079 is the exclusive expression of a of a of an 1977 01:57:22.199 --> 01:57:24.960 energy that has a location, of shape, of form, and 1978 01:57:25.000 --> 01:57:28.600 a movement. This is still no bodies yet. There's still 1979 01:57:28.640 --> 01:57:31.680 no consciousness yet. There's still no identity yet. There's none 1980 01:57:31.720 --> 01:57:35.159 of that stuff yet. But that was that was this, 1981 01:57:35.560 --> 01:57:39.199 So in this infinite universe there was began to have 1982 01:57:39.279 --> 01:57:42.479 things like location and energy and stuff like that. And 1983 01:57:42.560 --> 01:57:48.960 eventually and then it's when the current moves. Then the 1984 01:57:49.039 --> 01:57:55.239 current moves within a sheath of magnetic field. Right, and 1985 01:57:55.319 --> 01:57:59.720 that magnetic field, uh is what they can stay. They record, 1986 01:57:59.760 --> 01:58:02.520 and now you can see between all stars and all 1987 01:58:02.600 --> 01:58:06.239 galaxies there's a magnetic field or rivers of magnetic field. 1988 01:58:06.640 --> 01:58:12.439 And that magnetic field is what holds the rivers of 1989 01:58:13.479 --> 01:58:18.159 galaxies and stars and star clusters together. And whenever the 1990 01:58:18.239 --> 01:58:21.680 magnetic field, which is the desire, the will, the wish, 1991 01:58:21.760 --> 01:58:25.840 the want of the mother, whenever that increases, it compresses 1992 01:58:26.319 --> 01:58:34.960 the energy feel the electric the electric river. Right, Whenever 1993 01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:38.479 it compresses the electric river, it takes from very low 1994 01:58:38.560 --> 01:58:42.520 amperage to very high amperage and from a very wide 1995 01:58:42.560 --> 01:58:47.520 location to very very low, very tight location, and this 1996 01:58:47.600 --> 01:58:50.479 is what creates plasma. It's just like turning on a 1997 01:58:50.560 --> 01:58:53.079 light bulb, right when you have a huge amount of 1998 01:58:53.199 --> 01:58:56.439 energy going through a little tiny wire, that wirelights up 1999 01:58:56.760 --> 01:59:02.319 and that. So it was just the creation of consciousness 2000 01:59:02.439 --> 01:59:04.840 and God was that was that same kind of a thing. 2001 01:59:05.359 --> 01:59:08.560 So still haven't even now, I still haven't talked to 2002 01:59:08.600 --> 01:59:11.319 you about God and the Mother and all that kind 2003 01:59:11.319 --> 01:59:14.359 of or the creation of the godhead. I still hadn't. 2004 01:59:14.399 --> 01:59:17.800 I still hadn't got to that. It was interesting about 2005 01:59:17.800 --> 01:59:21.000 being on that craft telling my uh my story is 2006 01:59:24.479 --> 01:59:27.319 this is this is really cool. Probably the coolest thing 2007 01:59:27.359 --> 01:59:33.520 for me was I smoked cigarettes. Right, So after three 2008 01:59:33.560 --> 01:59:35.239 hours of being on the stage and there was only 2009 01:59:35.279 --> 01:59:37.600 like about six or eight people there watching me, it 2010 01:59:37.640 --> 01:59:39.920 was like just basically they were just giving me this 2011 01:59:40.119 --> 01:59:42.840 gift of like, well, okay, you went to Earth and 2012 01:59:42.880 --> 01:59:45.479 you learned all this stuff, and why don't you give 2013 01:59:45.560 --> 01:59:50.079 us the report. So anyway, at the three hour mark, 2014 01:59:50.159 --> 01:59:52.119 I said, listen, I can can I go down take 2015 01:59:52.119 --> 01:59:56.199 a little break and they said sure, And under my 2016 01:59:56.239 --> 02:00:01.399 own steam, I went back to my bed to walked outside, 2017 02:00:01.640 --> 02:00:04.840 had a cigarette, came back that came back to bed, 2018 02:00:04.880 --> 02:00:07.279 and under my own steam, I went back up to 2019 02:00:07.319 --> 02:00:12.600 the craft and then when I was finished after five hours. 2020 02:00:12.600 --> 02:00:15.520 I was on there for five hours, then then I 2021 02:00:15.560 --> 02:00:18.760 came back. Then I came back after five hours, right, 2022 02:00:20.439 --> 02:00:24.199 And which is pretty profound because this is one of 2023 02:00:24.239 --> 02:00:27.479 the things that the ET people are doing, is they're 2024 02:00:27.520 --> 02:00:31.479 teaching human beings how to go and to go invisible 2025 02:00:31.560 --> 02:00:34.279 or how to how to transport like that unconsciously in 2026 02:00:34.319 --> 02:00:37.600 our bodies with we know how to do that. Yeah, 2027 02:00:38.359 --> 02:00:39.079 that's pretty cool. 2028 02:00:39.279 --> 02:00:43.600 Yeah. What do you think is the relationship between most 2029 02:00:43.640 --> 02:00:47.840 of these extraterrestrials, interdimensional beings whatever you want to call them, 2030 02:00:47.920 --> 02:00:54.600 and humans. Most of the experiences, like for Hernandez research, 2031 02:00:54.680 --> 02:00:57.399 like you were discussing earlier, most experiences that I've heard 2032 02:00:57.399 --> 02:01:02.079 about are ended up being positive experiences once the individual 2033 02:01:02.159 --> 02:01:06.439 understands exactly what's happening, and very little kind of negative 2034 02:01:06.920 --> 02:01:11.279 or malevolent type of experiences that I've heard about. What 2035 02:01:11.359 --> 02:01:14.800 do you think is the purpose in relationship with these beings? 2036 02:01:17.880 --> 02:01:19.279 I mean, what are they doing with us? 2037 02:01:19.600 --> 02:01:20.199 Yeah? 2038 02:01:21.560 --> 02:01:25.239 Uh, that goes back to the all one, the all 2039 02:01:25.319 --> 02:01:29.239 one in no space that they they A lot of 2040 02:01:29.279 --> 02:01:30.760 times you can hear if you if you listen to 2041 02:01:30.800 --> 02:01:36.880 a lot of encounters, the the the the the ets 2042 02:01:36.920 --> 02:01:45.239 will say we are you, right, we are you and 2043 02:01:45.239 --> 02:01:48.039 and it also goes back to this emotional healing business. 2044 02:01:48.079 --> 02:01:50.479 You know when you talk about generational trauma and stuff 2045 02:01:50.520 --> 02:01:56.279 like that, that they're looking at us as as the 2046 02:01:56.279 --> 02:02:01.000 progenitors of their trauma. Right, So they're going back in 2047 02:02:01.079 --> 02:02:06.439 time to elevate us, clear us, heal us because they're 2048 02:02:06.439 --> 02:02:10.960 connected as as us. There's this thing as soon as 2049 02:02:11.000 --> 02:02:14.039 you get out of the three D reality, you see 2050 02:02:14.039 --> 02:02:16.159 that they were in this kind of a there's a 2051 02:02:16.279 --> 02:02:19.520 kind of a unity between all things. That's another thing 2052 02:02:19.560 --> 02:02:21.920 that's a bit that's a big issue is this unity 2053 02:02:21.960 --> 02:02:26.039 between all things is we're not one person. We are 2054 02:02:26.880 --> 02:02:30.439 kind of spread out across the whole universe, right, and 2055 02:02:30.479 --> 02:02:33.840 so we can have aspects of ourselves on any star nation, 2056 02:02:34.079 --> 02:02:37.960 in any location. You know, you can you can remote 2057 02:02:38.039 --> 02:02:45.439 view an ant on Mars uh uh five million years ago, right, 2058 02:02:45.600 --> 02:02:48.039 There's people who could do this. So that means we 2059 02:02:48.079 --> 02:02:50.880 are on we were we are on Mars five million 2060 02:02:50.920 --> 02:02:53.319 years ago. You see what I'm saying. There's this unity 2061 02:02:53.600 --> 02:02:57.199 thing going on there. That's the way remote viewing works. 2062 02:02:57.199 --> 02:03:00.279 That's where all psychic phenomenal works. That's where all actual 2063 02:03:00.319 --> 02:03:03.479 stuff works. Is there's a type of unity. So they 2064 02:03:03.520 --> 02:03:08.119 are in an active compassion to help to help uh, 2065 02:03:08.279 --> 02:03:13.359 to help us. Here's how it works. Okay, all healing, 2066 02:03:13.520 --> 02:03:17.840 all wounding happens from the outside in, right, and all 2067 02:03:17.920 --> 02:03:22.319 healing happens from the inside out. Now, this is really important. 2068 02:03:22.319 --> 02:03:25.359 It's kind of like one of the key things. If you, 2069 02:03:26.159 --> 02:03:30.479 as a conscious mind go inside you you say, I'm 2070 02:03:30.479 --> 02:03:32.680 going to go inside and heal my heart. I'm going 2071 02:03:32.760 --> 02:03:34.640 to heal my will, I'm gonna heal my physical body. 2072 02:03:34.640 --> 02:03:36.439 I'm going to heal that. Right, So you go in 2073 02:03:36.479 --> 02:03:38.840 and you look for that pain, you look for that problem, 2074 02:03:39.079 --> 02:03:41.039 and you and you work on it. You embrace it, 2075 02:03:41.039 --> 02:03:46.439 you hold it. That's you looping in, right, So you 2076 02:03:46.479 --> 02:03:49.119 are looping in and when and when you loop in, 2077 02:03:49.439 --> 02:03:52.680 you're going back in time. Oh, when I was six 2078 02:03:52.760 --> 02:03:55.439 years old, this thing happened to me. So you loop in, 2079 02:03:55.520 --> 02:03:58.560 you're going back in time. So there's an adult, powerful 2080 02:03:58.600 --> 02:04:02.840 adult you going back in time to a little little 2081 02:04:02.880 --> 02:04:07.119 to you who's suffering. Right, you got that picture. Yeah, 2082 02:04:07.399 --> 02:04:11.920 that's called the interloop. And what's important about That is 2083 02:04:12.079 --> 02:04:14.039 the way we like we talk about the government, the 2084 02:04:14.039 --> 02:04:17.800 way we do our reality, our culture. We are taught 2085 02:04:18.000 --> 02:04:22.199 as children that everything is outside of us, you know, 2086 02:04:22.239 --> 02:04:24.520 Mommy picked me up, Mommy get feed me, you know. 2087 02:04:24.640 --> 02:04:27.000 And I need to got to go to a doctor 2088 02:04:27.039 --> 02:04:29.279 for this. I got to go to a psychologist for that. 2089 02:04:29.560 --> 02:04:33.720 This outward reaching, right, So we do this out and 2090 02:04:33.720 --> 02:04:35.840 then we reach out. I want my spirit, guys, I 2091 02:04:35.880 --> 02:04:38.479 want God. I want the angels to help me. You 2092 02:04:38.520 --> 02:04:40.680 know what I mean, Pray for me. You know, that's 2093 02:04:40.720 --> 02:04:44.960 the reaching out right Now, when you reach out, that 2094 02:04:45.039 --> 02:04:48.720 gives you. That means you're trying to engage into the 2095 02:04:48.760 --> 02:04:52.399 arena of where you got hurt. Right, So you look, 2096 02:04:52.479 --> 02:04:55.239 you're trying to get the persons who hurt you to 2097 02:04:55.359 --> 02:04:59.399 help you, right. That's like you know, and in fact, 2098 02:04:59.399 --> 02:05:02.880 that doesn't work work, it's kind of disempowering. I give 2099 02:05:02.920 --> 02:05:05.520 my power and authority to the police to protect me. 2100 02:05:05.600 --> 02:05:08.159 I give my power and authority to the medical profession 2101 02:05:08.239 --> 02:05:10.359 to protect me. I give my power and authority to 2102 02:05:10.439 --> 02:05:12.720 the teachers to teach me. You see what I'm saying. 2103 02:05:13.000 --> 02:05:16.039 That's the outer loop. But when you do the interloop, right, 2104 02:05:16.680 --> 02:05:19.640 when you do the interloop where you go in and 2105 02:05:19.640 --> 02:05:22.239 see about your heart, your broken heart or your crushed 2106 02:05:22.239 --> 02:05:25.239 heart or your inner child you and you regrow that 2107 02:05:25.399 --> 02:05:29.560 and you're in the adult now going back in time 2108 02:05:30.119 --> 02:05:35.279 and uplifting and making your inner child into the golden child. 2109 02:05:35.359 --> 02:05:37.960 That's the lead to gold kind of a business. Okay, 2110 02:05:39.119 --> 02:05:41.319 this is what the sab squads are doing. This is 2111 02:05:41.359 --> 02:05:43.680 what the ets are doing, this is what the higher 2112 02:05:43.760 --> 02:05:47.560 beings are doing. And it's the reason why they're doing 2113 02:05:47.640 --> 02:05:50.439 it is because if you can, if you look out 2114 02:05:50.479 --> 02:05:54.279 into the internet world, you see how many people are 2115 02:05:54.319 --> 02:05:57.319 doing inner child work, how many people doing healing work 2116 02:05:57.399 --> 02:06:00.439 or past life regression work, how many people doing their 2117 02:06:00.479 --> 02:06:04.000 inner work? Right, thousands and thousands and millions of people 2118 02:06:04.039 --> 02:06:06.239 are doing that inner work. So there's an inner loop 2119 02:06:06.319 --> 02:06:09.880 going on. And when you have the interloop loop going on, 2120 02:06:09.960 --> 02:06:14.159 that means the people now going back into the past 2121 02:06:14.760 --> 02:06:17.760 and healing your inner child. Well, that's what this e 2122 02:06:17.920 --> 02:06:21.119 teas are doing, that's what the angels doing. Once you've 2123 02:06:21.159 --> 02:06:24.159 made that interloop to do your inner healing, that opens 2124 02:06:24.199 --> 02:06:27.399 the door for your higher self, your future self to 2125 02:06:27.479 --> 02:06:30.600 come back and heal you. You see, do you hear 2126 02:06:30.640 --> 02:06:35.520 the drum beat, that's what's going on, right, So they say, 2127 02:06:35.680 --> 02:06:38.199 we are you, we are you, in the future, we 2128 02:06:38.279 --> 02:06:42.840 are you, right, and because you did your work of 2129 02:06:43.000 --> 02:06:47.800 healing yourself, you're in the future now, to your to 2130 02:06:47.840 --> 02:06:52.000 your inner child, you are the future. Yeah, you are 2131 02:06:52.039 --> 02:06:53.800 the future self. You don't even look like that. You 2132 02:06:53.800 --> 02:06:55.520 don't even look like got y'all. You look at it 2133 02:06:55.560 --> 02:06:58.239 all grown up now. So that's what's going on. That's 2134 02:06:58.279 --> 02:06:59.199 what's going on. 2135 02:06:59.079 --> 02:07:04.359 To me, like a level of raising collective consciousness too, right. 2136 02:07:05.840 --> 02:07:08.720 Yeah, yeah, A lot of that has to do with 2137 02:07:08.800 --> 02:07:12.439 catharsists if you can, if you can think of it 2138 02:07:12.439 --> 02:07:15.319 as since think of us as energy bodies, right, energy beings, 2139 02:07:16.760 --> 02:07:20.000 and when you have and so energy can be positive 2140 02:07:20.119 --> 02:07:23.359 or negative, you know, helpful or hurtful. So when you 2141 02:07:23.399 --> 02:07:27.319 have these hurtful and negative experiences, that that becomes like 2142 02:07:27.439 --> 02:07:33.119 a darkness or a lower vibrational frequency in your energy body. Right, 2143 02:07:33.840 --> 02:07:37.560 So whenever you can resolve that that changes your vibration. 2144 02:07:37.720 --> 02:07:40.760 That's so that that lower energy brings down the overall 2145 02:07:40.840 --> 02:07:43.119 net energy of your whole body. 2146 02:07:43.600 --> 02:07:46.319 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. 2147 02:07:46.880 --> 02:07:47.279 All right. 2148 02:07:47.399 --> 02:07:51.239 I got to hear about some of these sasquatch stories 2149 02:07:51.239 --> 02:07:52.399 that you are. You have a I know you have 2150 02:07:52.439 --> 02:07:57.279 a show that you talk about Sasquatch. You've done, yeah, 2151 02:07:57.319 --> 02:07:59.359 and you know a lot of people who have had 2152 02:07:59.479 --> 02:08:02.960 it pretty inemen encounters with these beings. Could you tell 2153 02:08:03.039 --> 02:08:06.319 us your understanding a little bit about sasquatch. 2154 02:08:07.359 --> 02:08:11.239 Yees Sasquatch. There are older brothers. Uh, they're they're part 2155 02:08:11.239 --> 02:08:16.239 of the mix here on the planet and they they've 2156 02:08:16.239 --> 02:08:19.720 been around for a really long time and they've been 2157 02:08:19.920 --> 02:08:23.199 our teachers and mentors whenever we go into a dark 2158 02:08:23.239 --> 02:08:27.560 age or whenever we move lose our spirituality, you know, 2159 02:08:27.680 --> 02:08:30.720 like they talk about this is the fifth fourth Root 2160 02:08:31.159 --> 02:08:34.079 race and we're going into the fifth Root race. That 2161 02:08:34.199 --> 02:08:37.560 means that we had a civilization of the first Root 2162 02:08:37.640 --> 02:08:40.359 race and that got wiped out, all life on the 2163 02:08:40.399 --> 02:08:42.640 planet get all messed up, and then the second and 2164 02:08:42.680 --> 02:08:45.560 the third, and we're in the fourth now and we're 2165 02:08:45.560 --> 02:08:49.920 going to go into the fifth. Right each time, each 2166 02:08:50.039 --> 02:08:54.560 time that we got wiped out spiritually, and you know, 2167 02:08:54.920 --> 02:08:58.039 our shamans and our healers and our wisdom keepers and 2168 02:08:58.039 --> 02:09:01.920 our spiritual people, they all were gone, right, even our 2169 02:09:02.000 --> 02:09:04.359 language and our connection to Earth and all that stuff 2170 02:09:04.479 --> 02:09:08.680 was gone. The sasquatch were there and they uh so 2171 02:09:09.640 --> 02:09:14.600 they bring back the vibration of the of the humans. 2172 02:09:14.600 --> 02:09:17.600 And you know, you do a when a shaman does 2173 02:09:17.640 --> 02:09:21.000 a does you know he wants to tie with shamanic journey. 2174 02:09:21.359 --> 02:09:23.880 He goes out to some rock on a mountains somewhere 2175 02:09:24.159 --> 02:09:28.520 right and he basically goes there to die until he 2176 02:09:28.560 --> 02:09:31.960 gets a vision, until he gets something. Well, the sasquatch 2177 02:09:32.000 --> 02:09:34.359 of watching all this and they'll give the person the vision, 2178 02:09:34.439 --> 02:09:36.920 or they give them the power animal, or they give 2179 02:09:36.960 --> 02:09:40.760 them give them what they need. Same thing in in India, 2180 02:09:40.840 --> 02:09:43.079 you know, it's the land of the gurus. When the 2181 02:09:43.119 --> 02:09:46.399 guru wants to When the Guru says, I gotta I 2182 02:09:46.399 --> 02:09:49.079 gotta become a guru, I gotta I gotta become enlightened, 2183 02:09:49.319 --> 02:09:52.159 they go up to the holy mountains, these holy mountains 2184 02:09:52.159 --> 02:09:57.800 and and and you know they sit in a cave 2185 02:09:57.920 --> 02:10:00.359 somewhere and they sit there and somebody I got if 2186 02:10:00.399 --> 02:10:01.960 they got one of their buddies comes and bring them 2187 02:10:02.000 --> 02:10:04.319 a little bowl of rice every day or something. They're 2188 02:10:04.359 --> 02:10:07.079 going up there to either become enlightened or die, and 2189 02:10:07.159 --> 02:10:11.000 the sasquatch comes along and you know, boost up their 2190 02:10:11.119 --> 02:10:14.279 energy or or make it something clear for them, you know, 2191 02:10:14.359 --> 02:10:16.760 and then make them into like this guru and stuff. 2192 02:10:17.000 --> 02:10:19.079 So these guys have been around a long time. They're 2193 02:10:19.119 --> 02:10:22.039 on the same level as the ETS. As a matter 2194 02:10:22.079 --> 02:10:25.520 of fact, they like, I have a list somewhere of 2195 02:10:25.760 --> 02:10:29.720 like forty something things that the Sasquatch and the and 2196 02:10:29.800 --> 02:10:34.720 the and the ets have in common. Forty things. Wow. 2197 02:10:35.520 --> 02:10:37.720 Uh do you so you think some of these et 2198 02:10:38.159 --> 02:10:42.159 races actually are involved with Sasquatch in some way? 2199 02:10:42.640 --> 02:10:48.800 Oh? Yeah, yeah, it's but it's it's like a wide spectrum. 2200 02:10:48.840 --> 02:10:51.720 There there's bad ET's, good ET's, there's bad Sasquats, a 2201 02:10:51.720 --> 02:10:57.079 good sabs Squatch. There's a government involvement. There's six agencies 2202 02:10:57.399 --> 02:11:00.920 in the federal in the United States. I don't not 2203 02:11:00.960 --> 02:11:02.560 even sure what they all are. But they want to 2204 02:11:02.640 --> 02:11:05.560 kill the Sasquatch. They want to kill the Sasquatch because 2205 02:11:06.159 --> 02:11:09.399 sa squatch don't have any government, and they know how 2206 02:11:09.399 --> 02:11:15.800 to go invisible, and and they're just like, you know, 2207 02:11:15.880 --> 02:11:19.880 they're just they're's sort of like a they're sort of 2208 02:11:19.920 --> 02:11:21.760 like the Watchers in a way. You know. 2209 02:11:22.359 --> 02:11:25.239 That's one of the most fascinating aspects about the whole 2210 02:11:25.239 --> 02:11:28.239 big Foot phenomenon is when I first started hearing about 2211 02:11:28.279 --> 02:11:31.720 how they, you know, have possibly have the ability to 2212 02:11:31.720 --> 02:11:36.359 go invisible, to go interdimensional shift their frequency, whatever is happening. 2213 02:11:36.479 --> 02:11:39.520 What is your understanding of how or what they're doing there. 2214 02:11:41.520 --> 02:11:45.720 That's a teaching when they do that. When they do that, 2215 02:11:45.720 --> 02:11:59.840 that's a teaching. They're they're really interesting. People's like like, go, 2216 02:12:00.319 --> 02:12:01.840 let's let me go back to let me go back 2217 02:12:01.840 --> 02:12:07.159 to to the first guy that I that I met 2218 02:12:07.640 --> 02:12:12.399 that was enlightened, right, and he had this mind speak thing, right, 2219 02:12:13.000 --> 02:12:16.119 So I could hear people speak from two miles away, well, 2220 02:12:16.119 --> 02:12:18.720 the Sasquatch, and I could hear what they were reading 2221 02:12:18.800 --> 02:12:22.760 and I can understand them, right. So the Sasquatch can 2222 02:12:22.800 --> 02:12:26.600 do that up to five ten miles away for one person, 2223 02:12:27.119 --> 02:12:29.680 or they can do it around the world. I know 2224 02:12:29.760 --> 02:12:33.319 I've experienced them. A guy on a radio show talking 2225 02:12:33.319 --> 02:12:37.359 to sabsquatch in PC and talking to a lady who 2226 02:12:37.439 --> 02:12:40.680 has problem with a horse in Australia and they're doing 2227 02:12:40.680 --> 02:12:43.640 this mind speak thing and the Sasquatch was telling her 2228 02:12:43.680 --> 02:12:46.199 what to do with their horse. So there's that mind 2229 02:12:46.199 --> 02:12:49.720 speak thing, right, and then there's this. Then there's this 2230 02:12:49.840 --> 02:12:55.399 thing of of the life review. Right. The cash a 2231 02:12:55.479 --> 02:12:57.279 record where you go up to somebody and you can 2232 02:12:57.319 --> 02:12:59.640 see every single record of what's going on in their 2233 02:12:59.640 --> 02:13:02.760 life from birth to death. The sasquats do that too. 2234 02:13:03.079 --> 02:13:05.159 If they're connected to you, they will know who you 2235 02:13:05.199 --> 02:13:08.279 are from birth to death, right, and then they know 2236 02:13:08.319 --> 02:13:10.800 how to like. But the other thing is that is 2237 02:13:10.840 --> 02:13:14.520 they're not invasive. They they have like this. They don't 2238 02:13:14.600 --> 02:13:17.760 want to be invasive because they respect our karma, they 2239 02:13:17.840 --> 02:13:20.640 respect our life path, so that what they will do 2240 02:13:20.720 --> 02:13:22.920 is they'll poke your feelings like you've got to poke 2241 02:13:23.000 --> 02:13:25.800 in the feelings to go, let's look at the sasquatch, 2242 02:13:26.000 --> 02:13:28.640 as simple as that. So oh, let's let's look at this. 2243 02:13:28.720 --> 02:13:31.560 You know, that's what's the new buzzword going on. So 2244 02:13:31.600 --> 02:13:34.119 they poke your feelings a little bit like that, very 2245 02:13:34.199 --> 02:13:37.880 non invasive. You gotta be real subtle to understand how 2246 02:13:39.319 --> 02:13:42.039 they showed me that there's there's a couple of thousand 2247 02:13:42.479 --> 02:13:49.399 sasquats that are monitoring around four million people. Everybody who 2248 02:13:49.520 --> 02:13:53.680 watches a sasquat show has there's a sasquatch who's been 2249 02:13:53.720 --> 02:13:55.520 who's watching them watch the show. 2250 02:13:56.920 --> 02:13:59.920 Wow, Now for the last show. 2251 02:13:59.760 --> 02:14:03.039 The same thing for ets, the AT's watch like watch 2252 02:14:03.079 --> 02:14:05.560 your show. They watch everybody's show. They see what's going on. 2253 02:14:05.680 --> 02:14:07.880 They know what's going on, and they do the same thing. 2254 02:14:07.920 --> 02:14:09.439 They don't come in here and tell us, oh, you 2255 02:14:09.479 --> 02:14:11.319 got to do this, you got to do that. They 2256 02:14:11.439 --> 02:14:14.279 just poke you with some feelings. They say, they upgrade 2257 02:14:14.319 --> 02:14:16.319 you here. They make you feel better about this, or 2258 02:14:16.399 --> 02:14:18.800 make you excited about Let's let me look about that, 2259 02:14:19.600 --> 02:14:22.000 you know, and like for you, like you want to 2260 02:14:22.000 --> 02:14:24.359 find out about consciousness. You want to find out about 2261 02:14:24.399 --> 02:14:27.000 the history, and you want to find out about lives 2262 02:14:27.039 --> 02:14:29.960 and corruption and conspiracy. You want to fight out all 2263 02:14:30.039 --> 02:14:31.840 that stuff, and you want to find out the spiritual 2264 02:14:31.920 --> 02:14:36.680 transformative stuff. You see, all those are not all exclusively yours, 2265 02:14:36.680 --> 02:14:40.560 because there really is no exclusively you or me or anything. 2266 02:14:40.680 --> 02:14:43.640 We're all kind of a conglomerate of one thing. 2267 02:14:44.359 --> 02:14:46.920 Right on, man, Yeah, I love it. There is so 2268 02:14:47.039 --> 02:14:49.359 many directions we could go from here, but for the 2269 02:14:49.439 --> 02:14:51.319 last few minutes we have I want to get your 2270 02:14:51.359 --> 02:14:56.479 thoughts on what is happening with the major changes in 2271 02:14:56.560 --> 02:14:59.960 our collective consciousness right now and the direction that we're 2272 02:15:00.159 --> 02:15:06.199 headed as people, as a humanity. If you have if 2273 02:15:06.199 --> 02:15:09.439 you're encouraged about what's happening right now and where we're headed. 2274 02:15:12.039 --> 02:15:18.600 Yeah, I think we're winning. We're winning. Uh you know, 2275 02:15:19.199 --> 02:15:22.039 I don't, I don't I follow this what the what 2276 02:15:22.079 --> 02:15:24.319 the ets are doing, you know, the wars in Heaven 2277 02:15:24.399 --> 02:15:26.720 and the wars in the space and all that kinds. 2278 02:15:26.800 --> 02:15:29.159 I kind of follow that and listen to the Corey 2279 02:15:29.279 --> 02:15:32.960 good side and the Elena the Nana side and and uh, 2280 02:15:33.000 --> 02:15:36.000 you know, and all all this stuff going on. Skulldugra 2281 02:15:36.159 --> 02:15:40.560 is going on, and uh but I think, uh, you 2282 02:15:40.640 --> 02:15:43.359 gotta you gotta go back and listen to the rocks 2283 02:15:43.359 --> 02:15:46.159 and talk to the trees. Mother Earth herself is doing 2284 02:15:46.159 --> 02:15:49.760 the work right. We are just the fleas on a dog, 2285 02:15:49.960 --> 02:15:54.760 and she's doing her work. She's she's uh, she's ready 2286 02:15:54.840 --> 02:16:00.760 to have big changes. And uh so I think that's 2287 02:16:01.279 --> 02:16:03.640 there's this thing, right, there's this thing that's going on 2288 02:16:03.640 --> 02:16:06.920 the planet. The ets are talking about it. This ET 2289 02:16:07.199 --> 02:16:10.600 was talking to one of the friends, a human friend, 2290 02:16:11.239 --> 02:16:14.359 and they were talking about, you know, doing human heat. 2291 02:16:14.760 --> 02:16:17.920 The ET is healing humans and and doing that, and 2292 02:16:18.359 --> 02:16:21.720 the ET said, well, we're on team inside out right. 2293 02:16:21.800 --> 02:16:24.399 She kind of said it as a casual way, but 2294 02:16:24.520 --> 02:16:27.439 I realized that that was a slang. And then I 2295 02:16:27.479 --> 02:16:31.439 started looking at, well, what is the team inside out? 2296 02:16:31.479 --> 02:16:33.159 And I knew what it was when when in terms 2297 02:16:33.200 --> 02:16:37.120 of the terms of the the ets, because you know, 2298 02:16:37.239 --> 02:16:39.719 ninety percent of people who've been on the craft they 2299 02:16:39.760 --> 02:16:43.239 don't remember it, and yet they they're awakened. They start 2300 02:16:43.520 --> 02:16:46.200 looking at this and changing their life and you know, 2301 02:16:46.559 --> 02:16:49.639 resolving issues that they had and opening their mind to 2302 02:16:49.719 --> 02:16:53.920 more possibilities. Right, so they're doing this team inside out. 2303 02:16:54.000 --> 02:16:58.280 Dang right, well, Ray Hernandez, like I said, they got 2304 02:16:58.799 --> 02:17:02.479 told please go and look at all these psychic phenomenas. 2305 02:17:02.479 --> 02:17:05.559 So all these people doing the psychic stuff. There's psychic schools, 2306 02:17:05.639 --> 02:17:09.479 there's there's the Ponte Pontel. You know, you ever heard 2307 02:17:09.479 --> 02:17:13.879 of those guys out right that was with with Sue Walker. 2308 02:17:14.360 --> 02:17:17.719 They're teaching people how to do that, right, The sasquatch 2309 02:17:17.760 --> 02:17:20.120 are teaching people how to go invisible. I got my 2310 02:17:20.239 --> 02:17:22.760 leg to go invisible. That was pretty cool. 2311 02:17:22.959 --> 02:17:27.479 And uh, yeah, you had a sasquatch instructing you on 2312 02:17:27.719 --> 02:17:30.959 how to go tell us a little bit about that. 2313 02:17:32.239 --> 02:17:34.399 Huh, a little bit about it? 2314 02:17:36.840 --> 02:17:40.479 Uh again, you know this is I'm not a normal guy, 2315 02:17:40.520 --> 02:17:43.479 and and uh but but in some ways I am, 2316 02:17:43.479 --> 02:17:48.399 because I'm just this guy, right, But uh, I was 2317 02:17:48.440 --> 02:17:51.760 watching videos back then and I had already had like 2318 02:17:51.799 --> 02:17:54.879 a shamanic journey with these guys, and they gave me 2319 02:17:54.959 --> 02:17:57.399 this vision and it lasted for three hours with having 2320 02:17:57.399 --> 02:18:00.840 me talk to a rock that was pretty cool, and 2321 02:18:00.879 --> 02:18:03.399 the rock talk for three hours about the beginning of 2322 02:18:03.600 --> 02:18:07.239 the beginning of humanity and how not the beginning of 2323 02:18:07.360 --> 02:18:09.319 human and the beginning of all life, and how all 2324 02:18:09.360 --> 02:18:11.159 life is made out of water rock. So that was 2325 02:18:11.200 --> 02:18:13.760 like one thing. So then it's like a couple of 2326 02:18:13.840 --> 02:18:18.000 years later they were They took about two more years 2327 02:18:18.040 --> 02:18:21.799 after that after I was friends with them, where they 2328 02:18:21.799 --> 02:18:24.319 would talk to me about the all one and no space, 2329 02:18:25.079 --> 02:18:26.879 and the all one is you kind of figure out 2330 02:18:26.879 --> 02:18:29.159 what the all one is, but no space is different. 2331 02:18:29.239 --> 02:18:34.040 No spaces is like there's me right, I'm here, I'm 2332 02:18:34.120 --> 02:18:37.600 talking now, and I'm going right here to my computer 2333 02:18:37.680 --> 02:18:39.399 and there's a space there, right, and then there's a 2334 02:18:39.440 --> 02:18:42.079 space from my computer to your computer goes all the 2335 02:18:42.079 --> 02:18:46.040 way from Savannah to Colorado, and then there's the space 2336 02:18:46.079 --> 02:18:48.479 of the computer to you. Well, they live in no 2337 02:18:48.600 --> 02:18:51.159 space where there is no space, and that's like another 2338 02:18:51.239 --> 02:18:54.520 level of all one. So it took them two years 2339 02:18:54.520 --> 02:18:57.239 for them to get in my head what it means 2340 02:18:57.920 --> 02:19:03.559 to live in all space and no one in all one. Okay, 2341 02:19:03.639 --> 02:19:07.319 so they know, like I said, they had my life review. 2342 02:19:07.319 --> 02:19:09.680 They've known everything that's happened to me my whole life. 2343 02:19:10.239 --> 02:19:13.799 And so I was listening to the front Seater program. 2344 02:19:14.280 --> 02:19:17.760 It was a channel on YouTube, and and there was 2345 02:19:17.799 --> 02:19:22.200 this lady there name what was her name, I forget 2346 02:19:22.200 --> 02:19:23.920 the name of it. She was talking. She was a 2347 02:19:24.000 --> 02:19:28.959 channel she channels the Sabsquatch people, and and uh, one 2348 02:19:29.000 --> 02:19:31.479 of the channelings of Sabsquatched people was talking to her 2349 02:19:31.479 --> 02:19:35.000 about is how they go invisible. And they go invisible 2350 02:19:35.559 --> 02:19:39.920 by breathing into their breathing light into their heart and 2351 02:19:39.959 --> 02:19:44.000 then increase the light in their heart until the they 2352 02:19:44.239 --> 02:19:46.840 what they call glow. It glows, Your heart glows. It 2353 02:19:46.959 --> 02:19:51.399 is like a meditation. And then when your heart glows, 2354 02:19:51.440 --> 02:19:53.719 you can spread that out to your whole body. And 2355 02:19:53.760 --> 02:19:58.159 when you can keep the glow going, then your combody 2356 02:19:58.319 --> 02:20:02.680 just disappears. Right. So I was listening to her talk 2357 02:20:02.719 --> 02:20:05.840 about this, right, so I'm actually watching this video just 2358 02:20:05.840 --> 02:20:08.760 like I am now watching this video. And then my 2359 02:20:09.319 --> 02:20:14.760 Sasquatch teacher mentor friend brother. He sticks his hand inside 2360 02:20:14.840 --> 02:20:19.120 my heart. This guy, if you can imagine a heart, 2361 02:20:19.319 --> 02:20:21.559 a hand about this big, like this in my hands, 2362 02:20:21.600 --> 02:20:26.879 this big eat twice sticks his invisible hand inside my 2363 02:20:27.200 --> 02:20:32.600 heart and took over my breathing. It was like it's 2364 02:20:32.639 --> 02:20:35.959 really deep, really fast, you know, like connected breathing, really fast, 2365 02:20:35.959 --> 02:20:39.840 connected deep, connected breathing. They start breathing, breathing, breathing and breathing. 2366 02:20:40.079 --> 02:20:42.319 And when he did, he put energy into my heart. 2367 02:20:42.520 --> 02:20:44.719 And since I had already had an initiation from a 2368 02:20:44.760 --> 02:20:46.879 giru and I already had an initiation for the mother 2369 02:20:46.920 --> 02:20:50.159 of Everything, I knew exactly exactly what he was doing. 2370 02:20:50.559 --> 02:20:57.559 He was initiating me into heartlight meditation and then and 2371 02:20:57.600 --> 02:21:00.000 I already had thirteen years of meditation, so it's not 2372 02:21:00.200 --> 02:21:02.360 like it was like a big stretch or anything. So 2373 02:21:02.399 --> 02:21:04.920 I knew exactly what to do. And so I just 2374 02:21:04.959 --> 02:21:07.600 started meditating every night, and I did that for another 2375 02:21:07.719 --> 02:21:10.879 maybe three or four or five months. I wasn't really 2376 02:21:10.959 --> 02:21:15.000 super trying to trying to go get go anything invisible 2377 02:21:15.079 --> 02:21:18.159 or anything like that, because like you know, I don't 2378 02:21:18.200 --> 02:21:22.159 I don't don't care that much about it. But after 2379 02:21:22.159 --> 02:21:24.559 about four months and I was, you know, I had 2380 02:21:24.639 --> 02:21:31.079 this heartlight meditation down pretty good. He came along one 2381 02:21:31.159 --> 02:21:33.760 night when it took over my breath again, and he 2382 02:21:33.840 --> 02:21:37.079 took over my breath and and uh so I was 2383 02:21:37.159 --> 02:21:42.559 houghing pretty strong and like this guy win half right, 2384 02:21:42.600 --> 02:21:46.399 it's sort of like that kind of breathing. And then okay, 2385 02:21:46.440 --> 02:21:48.399 it got to where I was panicking because it was like, 2386 02:21:48.440 --> 02:21:50.440 you know, if you hyperventilate, right, you get to that 2387 02:21:50.479 --> 02:21:53.159 point where you kind of panic. And when I panic, 2388 02:21:53.239 --> 02:21:55.479 I sat up in bed and when I sat up 2389 02:21:55.520 --> 02:21:59.479 in bed, uh, one of my legs was gone. It 2390 02:21:59.559 --> 02:22:01.879 was in I could still feel it, but it was gone. 2391 02:22:02.000 --> 02:22:07.000 It was completely invisible, and I go, holy shit. Anyways, anyway, 2392 02:22:07.040 --> 02:22:09.879 so that's when they go. When they go invisible like that, 2393 02:22:10.639 --> 02:22:14.479 they're teaching you, right, who can do that? Only masters 2394 02:22:14.479 --> 02:22:17.079 can do that? Will they talk? When people talk about 2395 02:22:17.120 --> 02:22:21.559 eye shine? Right? Eye shine? And I can't tell you 2396 02:22:21.600 --> 02:22:24.600 about eye shine. Well. The second enlightened men that I 2397 02:22:24.639 --> 02:22:26.840 ever met was a guy named Street Shimoy and Street 2398 02:22:26.920 --> 02:22:34.200 Chimoy Street Chimoy. He had a program, right, so, so 2399 02:22:34.639 --> 02:22:36.559 it was in Miami and I went to this program, 2400 02:22:36.600 --> 02:22:38.360 went with a friend of mine, and I thought he 2401 02:22:38.399 --> 02:22:39.799 was going to be at Guru, thought he was going 2402 02:22:39.840 --> 02:22:43.719 to talk and stuff like this, and but he never talked. 2403 02:22:43.719 --> 02:22:45.760 He came out on the stage and there was there 2404 02:22:45.799 --> 02:22:48.639 was like a little one of those auditorium kind of 2405 02:22:48.639 --> 02:22:52.200 places where where you know, like where you have a 2406 02:22:52.319 --> 02:22:54.680 high school graduation. So it was like a big indoor 2407 02:22:54.760 --> 02:22:58.159 theater kind of thing. So he's sitting there and he 2408 02:22:58.319 --> 02:23:02.000 just like closes his eyes and into Samadi and then 2409 02:23:02.360 --> 02:23:05.200 the lights went way down, and then he started looking 2410 02:23:05.200 --> 02:23:08.360 at people. And I was sitting on to his his left, 2411 02:23:09.000 --> 02:23:14.239 so it was yeah, he was yes his left and 2412 02:23:14.399 --> 02:23:16.680 I was kind of high up, and he was started 2413 02:23:16.719 --> 02:23:19.719 swimming and looking at each person. Right, And when he 2414 02:23:19.760 --> 02:23:22.520 came around and looked at me, this guy had light 2415 02:23:22.600 --> 02:23:25.239 coming out of his eyes. He had there was light 2416 02:23:25.280 --> 02:23:27.879 inside him, and I knew like that, I knew that 2417 02:23:27.920 --> 02:23:29.520 that was a lot of God. He had the light 2418 02:23:29.600 --> 02:23:31.600 of God coming out of his eyes. He was enlightened 2419 02:23:31.680 --> 02:23:34.760 his energy, right. He the same thing as like the 2420 02:23:34.799 --> 02:23:37.959 sasquaestion you're talking about. You amp up the energy. When 2421 02:23:38.000 --> 02:23:40.000 you amp up the energy, it turns to light. And 2422 02:23:40.000 --> 02:23:41.959 when it turns into light enough, the light will come 2423 02:23:41.959 --> 02:23:44.719 out of your eyes. When you hear about eyeshine, when 2424 02:23:44.760 --> 02:23:46.920 you hear it from now on, when you hear about eyeshine, 2425 02:23:47.319 --> 02:23:50.680 they're they're teaching you, they're saying, you know, That's why 2426 02:23:50.760 --> 02:23:53.639 sometimes you could if you tried to shoot one of 2427 02:23:53.680 --> 02:23:56.479 these guys and they're in a really high state of 2428 02:23:56.600 --> 02:23:59.600 like really near invisibility or they're in light that in 2429 02:23:59.680 --> 02:24:02.000 light thing, you can't kill them. You have to catch 2430 02:24:02.000 --> 02:24:04.280 them when they're just normal, then you could be maybe 2431 02:24:04.360 --> 02:24:07.200 maybe kill them. But that's really how you're talking about. 2432 02:24:07.399 --> 02:24:12.319 If the if the Sabsquatch researchers knew this, if they 2433 02:24:12.399 --> 02:24:14.920 knew that the Sasquatch has showing them the light of 2434 02:24:15.000 --> 02:24:17.639 God out of their own eyes, then people would just 2435 02:24:17.760 --> 02:24:21.319 like flop over full out prostration, you know what I mean, 2436 02:24:21.360 --> 02:24:24.319 because if you know what I'm saying, I don't know 2437 02:24:24.360 --> 02:24:26.280 how many people have ever experienced what it's like to 2438 02:24:26.319 --> 02:24:28.639 be in the presence of God. But I mean, that's 2439 02:24:28.959 --> 02:24:31.680 that's not something your body deals with real good. It's 2440 02:24:31.719 --> 02:24:35.920 like you're just like explosion of power of stuff, right 2441 02:24:37.040 --> 02:24:40.799 of gratitude of awe wonder. So that's what's going on. 2442 02:24:41.760 --> 02:24:45.840 So in a way, the sasquatch or like greening human 2443 02:24:46.040 --> 02:24:49.760 human humanity. Right, they're they're they're they're growing us up 2444 02:24:50.000 --> 02:24:52.239 in a way. But it's gonna be a long time 2445 02:24:52.280 --> 02:24:54.239 because you look at what's going on with the history 2446 02:24:54.280 --> 02:24:57.840 of the of the UFOs, right, the UFO people they 2447 02:24:57.840 --> 02:25:00.719 were monsters. They're gonna eat you, they abduct to you, 2448 02:25:00.799 --> 02:25:01.799 they're gonna torture you. 2449 02:25:01.879 --> 02:25:03.680 Or the War of the World is the War of the. 2450 02:25:03.600 --> 02:25:07.040 World, everybody's gonna die, right. That went on for like 2451 02:25:07.159 --> 02:25:11.399 thirty years, right, So we're still in the first ten 2452 02:25:11.520 --> 02:25:14.040 or twelve years of the sasquatch thing, and they're still 2453 02:25:14.040 --> 02:25:17.680 into their monsters and other people. They're monsters, they're people. 2454 02:25:17.719 --> 02:25:21.000 They're monsters, they're gonna eat you, they're dog man and 2455 02:25:21.120 --> 02:25:23.319 all that kind of stuff. Dog Men are actually really 2456 02:25:23.319 --> 02:25:26.040 cool people too. But I don't enough that. I don't 2457 02:25:26.040 --> 02:25:27.879 know if that really covered, that really covered y. 2458 02:25:28.440 --> 02:25:31.280 Yeah, bet, this is great. We're gonna have to definitely 2459 02:25:31.319 --> 02:25:34.399 have you back on. There's so many different rabbit holes 2460 02:25:34.399 --> 02:25:37.360 we could jump in to discuss. This was fantastic. But 2461 02:25:37.440 --> 02:25:40.559 before you head out, Michael, let the audience know where 2462 02:25:40.600 --> 02:25:46.079 they can find you, which you're offering them all your sites, YouTube, 2463 02:25:46.120 --> 02:25:46.959 all the good stuff. 2464 02:25:47.840 --> 02:25:49.879 Well, it's real simple. I'm not a salesman and I 2465 02:25:49.959 --> 02:25:53.000 don'tn't do anything for money. I'm not trying to get 2466 02:25:53.079 --> 02:25:55.239 rich and I'm not trying to save your soul or 2467 02:25:55.239 --> 02:25:58.040 anything like that. But I do have probably the best 2468 02:25:58.040 --> 02:26:00.600 healing modeality in the world. It's called Languae Lessons of 2469 02:26:00.600 --> 02:26:03.799 the Heart. There's a group on Facebook that you can 2470 02:26:04.040 --> 02:26:08.840 you can join and and it's for free. Uh. You 2471 02:26:08.879 --> 02:26:12.719 can go to my uh YouTube channel called just Michael 2472 02:26:12.799 --> 02:26:18.280 Harrel and I have a playlist on there. Uh you 2473 02:26:18.319 --> 02:26:21.959 know that that covers the language Lessons of the Heart 2474 02:26:21.959 --> 02:26:25.399 teaching and it's free. Right. So, so to me, if 2475 02:26:25.600 --> 02:26:28.000 the number one thing needed to be done on this 2476 02:26:28.120 --> 02:26:30.959 world is to heal, is the healing of all of 2477 02:26:31.000 --> 02:26:33.600 your emotion about it. Get that's get that sort of 2478 02:26:33.680 --> 02:26:36.840 out because we can't go into a new we can't 2479 02:26:36.879 --> 02:26:40.719 go into a new reality, a new thing with the 2480 02:26:40.760 --> 02:26:44.680 same you know, dirty house that we had. It doesn't 2481 02:26:44.719 --> 02:26:47.719 work that way. We won't even be able to recognize it, 2482 02:26:47.879 --> 02:26:52.760 and or we will just pull this predatory culture along 2483 02:26:52.799 --> 02:26:55.840 with us into the Ohio vibration. There's a lot of 2484 02:26:55.840 --> 02:26:57.959 that going on. There's a lot of that went on 2485 02:26:58.040 --> 02:27:00.959 in the in the UH. When you start talking to 2486 02:27:01.000 --> 02:27:03.959 the ets, you go, oh, here's these people over here 2487 02:27:03.959 --> 02:27:08.319 that're fighting there. It's because they brought their predatory you know. 2488 02:27:08.399 --> 02:27:11.559 So there's a war and O'Ryan, there's a war an 2489 02:27:11.639 --> 02:27:15.719 arc tourists, and there's these you know, there's the Draco wars. 2490 02:27:15.920 --> 02:27:18.079 There's all these wars going on in space. That's the 2491 02:27:18.120 --> 02:27:20.559 reason why is because they didn't resolve their issues. They 2492 02:27:20.680 --> 02:27:24.040 reach their spirituality without resolving their issues, and that's why 2493 02:27:24.120 --> 02:27:26.959 it's such a big deal on Earth and why everybody's 2494 02:27:27.000 --> 02:27:30.079 going into like, resolve your issues before you try to 2495 02:27:30.079 --> 02:27:34.079 get into this super spiritual world. Right because like I said, 2496 02:27:34.600 --> 02:27:37.120 remember when I said I started, You can reach an 2497 02:27:37.159 --> 02:27:39.760 enlightenment and it doesn't touch your emotional body. You can 2498 02:27:39.799 --> 02:27:43.600 have Kundalini awakened and be fully awakened and it doesn't 2499 02:27:43.799 --> 02:27:47.159 resolve your emotional issues. You still got those. And you 2500 02:27:47.200 --> 02:27:49.760 can have a near death experience and you have ten 2501 02:27:49.920 --> 02:27:52.680 near death experiences if you want, and it doesn't I know, 2502 02:27:52.799 --> 02:27:55.479 lady has had five near death experiences. And this lady 2503 02:27:55.559 --> 02:27:56.159 is a train. 2504 02:27:56.040 --> 02:28:00.760 Wreck, right, Yeah, it sounds like the differ she's. 2505 02:28:00.600 --> 02:28:03.719 Got the show. She got the show and everything, but 2506 02:28:03.719 --> 02:28:07.719 but her herself broken. She's broken person. 2507 02:28:08.399 --> 02:28:11.120 Yeah, it sounds like the difference being on the light 2508 02:28:11.239 --> 02:28:13.479 side of the dark side of the force. Right, if 2509 02:28:13.479 --> 02:28:15.360 you take care of your issues, you might end up 2510 02:28:15.360 --> 02:28:18.159 on the light side, or you. 2511 02:28:18.239 --> 02:28:21.719 Might just understand that that the great mother of everything 2512 02:28:21.799 --> 02:28:24.399 is in the darkness. So you know what I mean. 2513 02:28:24.479 --> 02:28:27.760 It's not like it's not like you think the reason 2514 02:28:27.799 --> 02:28:30.799 why we fear the darkness is because that's where the 2515 02:28:30.799 --> 02:28:34.520 pain is. And when you write and when you go 2516 02:28:34.559 --> 02:28:37.920 and resolve that pain, that is the alchemy of turning 2517 02:28:38.239 --> 02:28:41.680 the lead into gold. You have the golden child, and 2518 02:28:41.719 --> 02:28:44.120 you want that golden child because that's the one that's 2519 02:28:44.159 --> 02:28:47.159 gonna take you into the next into the next round. 2520 02:28:48.040 --> 02:28:50.959 I love it, man, this was fantastic. Well, Michael, like 2521 02:28:51.000 --> 02:28:52.760 I said, we're gonna have to definitely have you back 2522 02:28:52.799 --> 02:28:55.360 on again. We'll get even for next time. 2523 02:28:56.000 --> 02:28:58.559 I'm game. Yeah, I got a whole I got I 2524 02:28:58.559 --> 02:29:02.079 got what do you call a pdf? Not pdf? I 2525 02:29:02.079 --> 02:29:07.959 got like keynote, So I got like five keynote things. 2526 02:29:07.959 --> 02:29:09.879 I'm gonna I'm maybe gonna start doing that this year, 2527 02:29:09.959 --> 02:29:11.079 do a keynote. 2528 02:29:10.920 --> 02:29:14.479 Talks right on man, that'd be excellent. 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