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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>This is big news.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the arrest of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the first publicly known instance of the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>administration going after a local official for interfering with immigration enforcement.

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<v Speaker 2>This is kind of what people.

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<v Speaker 1>Have been warning about the Trump administration, that they are

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<v Speaker 1>going to use their power to go after different branches,

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<v Speaker 1>different private people. And I mean, you could make the

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<v Speaker 1>case either or if this is a private person who

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<v Speaker 1>is not biding their agenda, not.

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<v Speaker 2>Going along.

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<v Speaker 1>FBI Director Cash Bettel, if you're keeping track, said yes,

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<v Speaker 1>a bureau has arrested this judge and charged her with

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<v Speaker 1>obstructing an immigration or arrest operation last week. This first announcement,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, came on X. To your point that

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<v Speaker 1>the President's been using social media to make big announcements

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<v Speaker 1>or announced big reactions to big events that are going

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<v Speaker 1>on globally. This announcement was made on X Initially.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, it's an acknowledgment that the media landscape is different

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<v Speaker 3>than it was five years ago, ten years ago, but.

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<v Speaker 4>It still doesn't ring.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't make me comfortable that that is how our

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<v Speaker 3>federal government has been working. The other story is similar

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<v Speaker 3>to this. ICE agents arrested a former magistrate judge out

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<v Speaker 3>of New Mexico. They are involved in a case. They

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<v Speaker 3>being the judge and his wife. They're involved in a

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<v Speaker 3>case where alleged Venezuelan gang members were staying on their property.

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<v Speaker 3>Two of the three men apparently on the property were

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<v Speaker 3>taken into custody this week, and they had to do

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<v Speaker 3>this search warrant on the former judges property. So they're

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<v Speaker 3>not messing around and any judge or anybody it seems

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<v Speaker 3>that has been harboring what ICE is described as violent criminals,

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<v Speaker 3>They're going.

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<v Speaker 4>To go after them pretty quickly. This is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be a headline throughout the course of the day to day.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to get into the specifics of what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with the Milwaukee judge. This is according to reporters with

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<v Speaker 1>the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. ICE agents arrived in the judges

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<v Speaker 1>court room last Friday during a pre trial hearing for

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<v Speaker 1>Eduardo Ruiz, a thirty year old Mexican national who's facing

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<v Speaker 1>misdemeanor battery charges in Wisconsin. The judge asked the agents

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<v Speaker 1>to leave and speak to the circuit Court's chief judge.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time they returned, the guy, the Mexican national,

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<v Speaker 1>had left. So Patel wrote in his post today, we

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<v Speaker 1>believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the

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<v Speaker 1>subject to be arrested in her courthouse to evade arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>That she sent them away so that she could get

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<v Speaker 1>in the way of an Ice arrest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That is not going to go well. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to go well for either side.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks bad that the judge is trying to thwart

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<v Speaker 1>ICE's arrest procedures. And it looks bad that it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration arresting judges that rule against what he wants.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's bad both ways.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the kind of stuff that happens in other

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<v Speaker 1>countries where the government goes in and sorts arresting judges. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and judges subverting any sort of powers that be when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the administration's agenda.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't well, I mean, this is one of

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<v Speaker 4>those things that.

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<v Speaker 3>The way this administration in the first hundred days of

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's second term, the way it's been defined by a

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<v Speaker 3>number of court battles that have gone both ways. To

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<v Speaker 3>be honest, I mean, most recently, there have been several hearing,

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<v Speaker 3>several decisions i should say judicial decisions that have gone

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<v Speaker 3>against the administration. But there are plenty where Trump feels

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<v Speaker 3>completely vindicated their decisions to you know, the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 3>As the example, when we talk about the guy that

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<v Speaker 3>was arrested in Maryland and sent to this prison in

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<v Speaker 3>El Salvador Abrego Garcia. The lower court had suggested that

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<v Speaker 3>they need to facilitate the you know, repatriation or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>term you want to use of this guy, get him

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<v Speaker 3>out of El Salvador and bring him back to Maryland.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the Supreme Court's decision, which was basically a

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<v Speaker 3>slap on the wrist of the administration suggesting that yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you do need to do something, but that the lower

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<v Speaker 3>court needs to go back and to define what it

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<v Speaker 3>means to facilitate the return, and the Trump administration using

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<v Speaker 3>it as a victory, taking a victory lap on something

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<v Speaker 3>that really wasn't a victory for them.

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<v Speaker 4>It's this very weird thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like the courts are working the way they're

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to, that the branches of government are doing the

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<v Speaker 3>checks and balances that were originally designed by the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the way it's set out. It's just one of those.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the most active checks and balances I think we've

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<v Speaker 3>seen in one hundred and fifty years.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the NFL Draft kicked off last night. To my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's bracket was shattered when Travis Hunter was selected that early.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the guy we talked about that wants to

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<v Speaker 1>play both sides of the ball, wide receiver and cornerback.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously very talented. But that was a shock. And not

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<v Speaker 1>a shock was Dion Sanders kid dropping out of the

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<v Speaker 1>first round. We talked about the probability of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the.

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<v Speaker 1>Anticipation over the draft kind of ends after round one.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to be a real fan to get weedy

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<v Speaker 1>and get into well second round maybe not so weedy,

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<v Speaker 1>but as you get into the weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're still if you're still paying attention late Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 1>What I like to do is on Sunday, look at

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers and the forty nine ers and look at

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<v Speaker 1>everybody they got, and then start doing my homework and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing and seeing what's what Tonight. The Dodgers are back

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<v Speaker 3>Skemes against Yoshinobu Yamamoto should be read, Wow, what a great.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a game I will maybe watch.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw something else.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I brought it up now I'm remembering about

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL draft is Deon Sanders's kid. Did you hear

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<v Speaker 1>about the draft room that he had made or.

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<v Speaker 2>See the pictures? Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>I saw an Instagram video that he said, like after

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<v Speaker 3>all the picks were gone, and he's like, hey, wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>it first tonight? Obviously you know, it's not my plan,

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<v Speaker 3>it's God's plan kind of thing. And in the background

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like there's a full on banquet tent.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it had been erected for this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a draft room made with dad's money.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, of course his.

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<v Speaker 2>Or his Yeah, the hell do I know?

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<v Speaker 1>But screens more than one the size of the entire

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<v Speaker 1>wall across the entire room. It's white with black paint

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<v Speaker 1>and just as legendary everywhere in different fonts. Legendary, legendary,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean a lot of egg on your face.

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<v Speaker 1>To create a draft room with legendary plastered all over

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<v Speaker 1>it and fall out of the first rounds, that should

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<v Speaker 1>build character and a little hubris.

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<v Speaker 4>No it will not, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I saw that, I was like, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly why you fell out of the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>This room right here, one legendary on the wall is

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<v Speaker 1>the reason you fell out.

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<v Speaker 4>No one around him will tell them.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see cam Ward?

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<v Speaker 1>Be interviewed cam Ward who went number one in the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback out of Miami Hurricanes. He was with his parents,

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<v Speaker 1>He had the thinnest of chains on, totally unassuming and

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<v Speaker 1>just thanked God, the most humble kid.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're like, and that is your number one pick?

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<v Speaker 4>Right there?

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty Well's with all the theatrics.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's there's something that judges and parole boards

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<v Speaker 1>hold in the highest regard, and that is accountability.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't show it, you're screwed. You're dear

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<v Speaker 2>to them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a tiny bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Of anything, any bit. And that's exactly what the judge

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<v Speaker 1>said today. George Santos, former US Representative George Santos, who

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<v Speaker 1>lied about his life story he defrauded donors total clown,

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<v Speaker 1>was sentenced to over seven years in prison. Started sobbing

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<v Speaker 1>as he heard his punishment. The district court judge said,

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<v Speaker 1>where's your remorse? Where do I see it? It's always

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<v Speaker 1>someone else's fault. It's so maddening, isn't it. He served

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<v Speaker 1>in Congress for barely a year before everyone in the

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<v Speaker 1>house was like, this guy's a fraud, this guy's a phony.

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<v Speaker 1>Happened in twenty twenty three. He played a guilty last

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<v Speaker 1>summer to federal wire fraud and aggravated identity theft.

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<v Speaker 3>The maximum seven years three months in prison, and he

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<v Speaker 3>knew it going into it. He said he probably was

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<v Speaker 3>going to get the maximum. Tomorrow, of course, the funeral

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<v Speaker 3>hour with Raymond Arroya. We talked to him earlier in

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<v Speaker 3>the week about what's going to happen Over the course

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<v Speaker 3>boarded Air Force one earlier this morning on their way

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump said this week that President Shei Jinping of

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<v Speaker 1>China had called him. He said that his administration is

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<v Speaker 1>talking with China to strike a tariff deal. Beijing says,

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<v Speaker 1>what is she talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>President? Please?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>He did an interview with Time magazine Trump did on

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday that was just published today. He did not say

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<v Speaker 1>when she called or what the two leaders discussed.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that he would not call.

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<v Speaker 1>She Trump said he's called, and I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a sign of weakness on his behalf. My goodness, true,

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<v Speaker 1>he did.

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<v Speaker 3>He did answers question about this as he was about

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<v Speaker 3>to board Marine one there at the White House this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>When asked exactly what the talks have entailed, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>he's not going to talk about it. So it's hard

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<v Speaker 3>to pin this guy down on what exactly is happening

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<v Speaker 3>with this. But we did see after this meeting with

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of CEOs from the targets and the walmarts

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<v Speaker 3>softening on the president's part when it came to the

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and forty five percent tariffs and said that

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<v Speaker 3>they will come down. It just he didn't get into

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<v Speaker 1>So let me read between the lines here. Shijinping did

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and we know that there is an entourage of

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<v Speaker 3>How many countries are there in the world, two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and twelve. How many countries are there? There are one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and ninety five countries. Okay, but we've already got

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm wondering if all those countries have their own

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the European Union talks for seventeen members, is it

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<v Speaker 3>something like that not included in the list of the

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<v Speaker 1>In two hundred tariff deals, it's not just each country

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<v Speaker 1>say we get five things from Lithuania. Sure we could

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it's just probably that.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, he said two hundred tariff deals and expected

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<v Speaker 3>The White House Official Press Office has been talking about

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<v Speaker 2>All Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pope's funeral is tomorrow. It's gonna be a who's who?

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<v Speaker 1>the met We'll be talking to our correspondent, Raymond Arroyo.

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<v Speaker 1>He's host of the Arroyo Grande podcast. He interviewed Pope Benedict.

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<v Speaker 1>He is our go to guy when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>without controversy.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, we will be talking to Raymond Arroyo. He

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<v Speaker 1>has been called in last minute because sometimes you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>him at about eleven about what's going on with the conclave, because,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said before the break, it is not without controversy.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked to yesterday about the convicted cardinal that wants in.

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<v Speaker 1>And and the fact that the cardinals haven't really been

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with each other because that wasn't the dead

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<v Speaker 3>Those parties I'm just making it more conversation, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot that you know, we've talked earlier in

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<v Speaker 3>the week. We talked about how Pope Francis wanted a

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<v Speaker 3>He kind of holed up in a pretty spare hotel

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<v Speaker 3>He's just doing a simple pine box. But we won't

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<v Speaker 3>see the difference. I mean, all of the pomp and

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<v Speaker 3>still be on display tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>You sneeze, Yeah, okay, how did you know?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I could see it in your face.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh look at a light. Not that light look really

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<v Speaker 2>Too, Keana, are you a switch to person?

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<v Speaker 4>She is? And did you go on at midnight?

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<v Speaker 2>Brian if I could, and he said no, Oh, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get him on the horn. That's a good start to

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<v Speaker 3>Setting boundaries. Was he afraid that he was going to

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<v Speaker 3>lose you to that? Like you would stop paying attention.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't want the money to be spent.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of money, Yeah, the money, Yeah a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, Gary, husbands only care about one thing,

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<v Speaker 4>That's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not true. That is not true.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I could think at least one other thing that

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, come on, okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's talk about the pope. Who's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be there tomorrow right tonight?

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<v Speaker 4>Is the night tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's about gosh, five o'clock, six o'clock our time.

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<v Speaker 3>Tonight is when they do the official closing of the

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<v Speaker 4>Chapel, is that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Or Saint Peter's Basilica. Where is the pope buried. He's

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<v Speaker 3>I know that that was one of the things.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's some popes buried in avign Young.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, well, there was a time when they were, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>in the France, weren't they. So Donald Amlaniy Trump, we

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<v Speaker 3>know that the Vice President, we know the President and

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<v Speaker 3>the first Lady will be there.

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<v Speaker 4>They left this morning to head over to Italy.

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<v Speaker 3>Prince William, King Charles's eldest son, is confirmed to be

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<v Speaker 3>at the at the funeral tomorrow. He will be representing

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<v Speaker 3>the king. Of course, the King is has been dealing

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<v Speaker 3>other scheduling issues. Caro Starmer is the British Prime minister

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<v Speaker 3>he will be there. Vladimir's Lenski. This is the biggest surprise.

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<v Speaker 3>They met last in October of last year when Zelenski

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Maria Maggiori is where he will be buried. This

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<v Speaker 1>of the four papal basilicas in Rome. He would regularly

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<v Speaker 1>go into Santa Maria Maggiori Saint Mary Major, also called

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<v Speaker 1>that served it as a burial round for slaves. There

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<v Speaker 1>you go on one visit, the Pope had a close

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<v Speaker 1>his experience. Pickpocket, Oh yeah, pickpockets are all over Rome.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the first thing that happened to us when

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<v Speaker 4>That's your defense making.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the first pope in more than a century not

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<v Speaker 3>They do the grotto, that's a nice way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not everybody's as sullied as Los Angeles, and when they

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<v Speaker 2>You sicko.

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<v Speaker 3>The European Union Commission president will be there, the President

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<v Speaker 3>of Argentina, which of course is where Pope Francis was born.

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<v Speaker 3>Javi Amilia will be there. Georgia Maloney, the Italian Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably the shortest trip, but she'll be there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>When you brought the Sistine Chapel, you weren't far off

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's where they select a new pope. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>I'll look that up before somebody yells at me, Hey, this.

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<v Speaker 3>Was gonna be a fun thing, because we have to

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<v Speaker 3>do fun stuff on Friday, we will do what you

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<v Speaker 2>Gary and Channon. I thought it would be a cool

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, grandkids call her go go.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a go go as a grand God rest

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<v Speaker 1>his soul, not me. One of my girlfriends her dad.

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<v Speaker 3>never first names. It was always grandma and Grandpa. My kids, though,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you had to use both names when you

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, So whoever, whatever name they come up with,

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<v Speaker 1>With Well, the thing is, there's families where the grandparents

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<v Speaker 1>come up with their own names, like my parents did that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm going to be called this, And then there's

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<v Speaker 1>the families where the kids. I always liked it when

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<v Speaker 1>the kids choose the names. That's always most fun for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>To watch from the outside is like, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if a kid can't pronounce a name or can't pronounce

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<v Speaker 1>grandma and it comes out, you know, gama, and then

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<v Speaker 1>your gama.

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<v Speaker 2>For the whole your whole life, that's always a fun thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Or googie or whatever. My wife said. This would have

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<v Speaker 3>been years ago. She said something about how she wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to be called Lali as a grandma, and I wrote

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<v Speaker 3>it down. I took a note in my phone for

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<v Speaker 3>some reason that was our kids were barely teenagers at

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<v Speaker 3>the time, but I remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you gonna put that as an edict in

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<v Speaker 1>when when your first grandchild comes.

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<v Speaker 4>Up, Yeah, you shall refer to her.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you like to be called Fonsie. Oh, that

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<v Speaker 2>would be great. Let's do it Grandpa Fonsa rally. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I like it.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the big stories today, President Trump says that

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<v Speaker 3>Crimea will stay with Russia to definitive statement today about

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<v Speaker 3>the need for Ukraine to give up some of its

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<v Speaker 3>territory to end the war with Russia. He made these

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<v Speaker 3>comments in an interview with Time magazine that the interview

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<v Speaker 3>actually was done on Tuesday, but was released today. Crimea

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<v Speaker 3>is the peninsula right along the Black Sea in southern

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<v Speaker 3>Ukraine that Russia seized back in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden's going to the pope's funeral. Oh makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic president. Oh yeah, Ok, he's met the Pope several times.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Do you remember the Turpin kids.

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<v Speaker 4>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a story that sounds like their story. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's about a turtle, and it's just one turtle. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not a whole. Okay, you're so disappointed.

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<v Speaker 2>I am slightly disappointed. Not so disappointed. Okay, all takes

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<v Speaker 2>slight disappointment.

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<v Speaker 1>Light disappointment, not back in nineteen seventy seven, Can I

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<v Speaker 1>have some music?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Back in nineteen seventy seven, there was a young boy

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<v Speaker 1>and he was playing in his yard in New York

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<v Speaker 1>and he stumbles upon a wild eastern box turtle and

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<v Speaker 1>the boy takes in the turtle. The family takes in

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<v Speaker 1>the turtle, and for the next fifty years, the turtle

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<v Speaker 1>stayed in the home. She remained on the kitchen floor.

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<v Speaker 1>She ate cat food occasionally lettuce. Now, this box turtle,

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<v Speaker 1>eastern box turtle. Had she lived in the wild, she'd

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<v Speaker 1>lived near water, she would take in the sunlight. She

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<v Speaker 1>would have worn her nails down naturally in forest terrain.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not what happened with roc Aalina, the wild

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern box turtle. No, she lived in that kitchen, ate

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<v Speaker 1>that cat food, and recently, Garden State tortoise. A reptile

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<v Speaker 1>rehab center got a hold of rock A Lina. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what happened to the family, but rock Allina

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<v Speaker 1>was the serve and she made her way into this

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<v Speaker 1>rehab and the guy who runs it was really worried

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<v Speaker 1>about rock Aalina. Her skin was discolored, it was sloughing

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<v Speaker 1>off her nails, were not worn down as they would

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<v Speaker 1>naturally have been in the forest terrain. No, they were

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<v Speaker 1>curled in misshapen. They had grown back into her feet.

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<v Speaker 1>One leg was impartially bad shape. They thought that she

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<v Speaker 1>was going to lose that leg. Her eyes were covered

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<v Speaker 1>in dead skin. She could not see this was a

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<v Speaker 1>turtle on her last legs, quite literally. But they got

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<v Speaker 1>her to the rehab center. Nails, they I'm not to

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<v Speaker 1>that point. Oh, they gave her a warm bath.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>Every recovery story starts with a warm bath, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>With just forty five minutes of her being in warm water,

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<v Speaker 1>her eyes opened and you could tell that she was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, where am I?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>According to the guy who runs the rehab center, his

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<v Speaker 1>name Chris, it was a box turtle that inspired Chris

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<v Speaker 1>to start his reptile center.

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<v Speaker 2>He was five.

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<v Speaker 1>He was playing in a sandbox with his Gi Joe's

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<v Speaker 1>and dad was mowing the lawn and that's when he found.

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<v Speaker 2>His first box turtle.

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<v Speaker 1>He could have handed me anything that day, he said

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<v Speaker 1>about his father, But it was a box turtle and

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<v Speaker 1>that stuck with me. I became enamored with them. Well

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<v Speaker 1>after rock Alina's first bath. She made steady progress. Chris

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<v Speaker 1>and the rescue centers VET gave her antibiotics, she got

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<v Speaker 1>some soft foods. They trimmed her nails, Gary trimmer nails,

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<v Speaker 1>and her beak it was shaped more like a ducks

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<v Speaker 1>than our turtle's hooked mouth because of our living conditions.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh is this her right here with the strawberries? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris says.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like this turtle seemed to know we were

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<v Speaker 1>helping her every single step of the way that we

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<v Speaker 1>did something, she immediately responded to it. She was moved

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<v Speaker 1>into a habitat that would mimic her natural ecosystem. It

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<v Speaker 1>was decked out with fake logs, a water area, pine needles,

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<v Speaker 1>and foliage. Kind of reminds me of the cage I

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<v Speaker 1>created for Hami Tar anyway. For Finally, in late April,

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<v Speaker 1>rock Alina went outside for the first time in nearly

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years. Member This turtle had been living in a

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<v Speaker 1>dirty kitchen eating cat food. She finally saw the outdoors.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris says, when they put her outside, rock Alina was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this this soft grass? She perked up. She

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<v Speaker 1>stared into the sky. She cocked her head, blinked her

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<v Speaker 1>eyes and munched on an earthworm.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the future hold for RockA Fina? No more cat food,

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<v Speaker 2>only live worms.

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<v Speaker 4>That sounds. That sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you imagine being trapped in a dirty kitchen eating

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<v Speaker 1>cat food and maybe a piece of lettuce for fifty

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<v Speaker 1>years and then somebody takes you outside and they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>look at all.

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<v Speaker 4>This, Look at all these earthworms.

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<v Speaker 1>That incredible And I love the part how everything they

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<v Speaker 1>did for her to take care of her, she acknowledged.

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<v Speaker 3>She responded to, I want to know, first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>what news organization published the story.

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<v Speaker 2>It was mpr ah okay, which I think is a

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<v Speaker 2>good use of their time.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably.

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<v Speaker 6>My mother was an Afrikaans speaking South African, so grandmother

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<v Speaker 6>and grandfather in Afrikaans is oma and opah oma sounds

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<v Speaker 6>kind of Greek, but it's not oma and opah ou

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<v Speaker 6>pa and ouma.

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<v Speaker 4>It's good.

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<v Speaker 3>What did your what did you call your grandparents? We'll

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<v Speaker 3>take these talk packs and we'll do these a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit later as well. I have to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>This compost story. You're going to lose your mind, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't looked at my email in about three weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>so uh good, don't okay, you've.

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<v Speaker 4>Been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 3>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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