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Speaker 1: Thank you Joetrekker, exec could producer. My name's Riyan Thomas
Speaker 1: hos to the fifty five krc Morning Show. Appreciate you
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Speaker 1: a loaded show we've got today. Thank you Joe Strekker
Speaker 1: for lining up all the guests which I dearly, dearly
Speaker 1: love to talk to. Of course, Tach Friday with Day've
Speaker 1: had her every Friday at six thirty table. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about a ransomware attack and certain things you need to
Speaker 1: do to avoid ransomware attacks. Also digital death cleaning. I
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Speaker 1: going to learn together. There's never a day that goes
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Speaker 1: digital death cleaning is. And finally, sadly, Chinese hackers apparently
Speaker 1: are at it again. I think I don't mean again,
Speaker 1: that's the topic, but they never stop. It's a frightening
Speaker 1: reality of But it's a twenty four hour day, seven
Speaker 1: day a week thing for the hackers. They do it before.
Speaker 1: That's their job, paid by the Chinese Communist Party to
Speaker 1: break into our systems. Anyway, don Heinrich Toltzman Hair Toldtzman
Speaker 1: are resident not really doesn't live in the basement down here,
Speaker 1: but German scholar FC. Since he is going to be
Speaker 1: demolishing some historic beer tunnels for the purposes of the
Speaker 1: stadium expansion, hmmm, I'm guessing hair Toldsman's probably not real
Speaker 1: happy about that. He's written books on the rise of
Speaker 1: the since I beer baronsing is all about it, since
Speaker 1: I brewing history is still alive, and well, all the
Speaker 1: new breweries opening up, that's a great thing. We're going
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about that. But you know,
Speaker 1: we do have a history here. Those tunnels probably would
Speaker 1: be entitled to historic protection, one might imagine. Anyway, and
Speaker 1: he Plugstead is going to join the program at seven thirty.
Speaker 1: One of the owners of a new brewery opening in Harrison, Ohio,
Speaker 1: the Hearth Brewery. He started brewing beer in his garage.
Speaker 1: He's now turning it into a business. So Andy's going
Speaker 1: to join the program. Entrepreneurial guy. He is seven thirty
Speaker 1: with him, Cheryl pop on a flight tri State got
Speaker 1: an honor flight next Tuesday, and I know that that
Speaker 1: is a wonderful, wonderful thing. Having had the opportunity to
Speaker 1: be two of them to guardians on two flights, what
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Speaker 1: we'll talk about the welcome home ceremony, which is something
Speaker 1: that you should definitely attend as well if you can't
Speaker 1: go on an honor flight and you've never been to
Speaker 1: one of those welcome home sera. As you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not overstating the case on how amazing it is. Just
Speaker 1: an uplifting time. So that's an opportunity that doesn't require money,
Speaker 1: just a little bit of time and a trip to CVEG.
Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly returns Joe Tracker. I didn't get a copy
Speaker 1: of his book in advance, neither did you. That's a
Speaker 1: first for O'Reilly He's usually a stickler about asking like
Speaker 1: right out of the gate, did you read my book?
Speaker 1: And I always make a point of reading O'Reilly's book
Speaker 1: and books ahead of time because he provides him like
Speaker 1: two months in advance, and then I can avoid saying
Speaker 1: no to his question, did you read the book today?
Speaker 1: The new book Confronting the Presidents? I have not read,
Speaker 1: but I've read all the notes that I've been provided,
Speaker 1: and it's pretty eye opening. It's kind of a breakdown
Speaker 1: of all the presidents and their quirks and their Shenanigan's
Speaker 1: Can I use that word? And one more guest at
Speaker 1: eight thirty Sean Maloney first Empower You series of the
Speaker 1: False Semester, A valuable discussion I'm gonna be having with
Speaker 1: Sean lethal force and the law when you can use
Speaker 1: lethal force and when you can We're gonna be having
Speaker 1: a great discussion on the what they call reasonable I
Speaker 1: suppose it's person now. When I went to law school,
Speaker 1: they always called it the reasonable man standard. Was it
Speaker 1: reasonable under the circumstances? So, if you're in front of
Speaker 1: a jury and you've been accused of using deadly force incorrectly, improperly,
Speaker 1: was it reasonable under the circumstances. That's why I always
Speaker 1: focus on you know, are you legitimately feeling some anticipation
Speaker 1: of grievous bodily harm or deadly bodily harm. Some guy's
Speaker 1: coming at you with a knife, running full speed. It
Speaker 1: would be reasonable for you to expect that person is
Speaker 1: going to be, you know, maybe trying to kill you,
Speaker 1: in which case you can use deadly force. If the
Speaker 1: guy's running away from you, you have no reasonable expectation
Speaker 1: that the guy is coming to try to do you harm.
Speaker 1: You can't shoot him in the back. That's why I
Speaker 1: always point out you can't shoot somebody merely because they're
Speaker 1: taking a rake out of your driveway or taking property
Speaker 1: from you. That is not deadly force. You can't use
Speaker 1: deadly force to deal with the circumstance that doesn't involve
Speaker 1: you know, legitimate concern for your own personal well being.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk to Sean Maloney about that again. That'll
Speaker 1: be the first Empower You Fall Semester Empower Youamerica dot
Speaker 1: Org at the entire list. What a great thing. Dan Reagan,
Speaker 1: old and former owner of f M USA, now retired
Speaker 1: from that business. Yow, great guy. Now I'm going to
Speaker 1: pivot over here because Springfield's still in the news, and
Speaker 1: I saw this. I don't know who started it, but
Speaker 1: there was this really long back and forth on Facebook,
Speaker 1: and Drew Pappas, former Anderson Township trustee, called the program yesterday.
Speaker 1: We were talking about something completely unrelated to the illegal
Speaker 1: immigrant situation we got going on. But I learned from
Speaker 1: looking at this back and forth, which also included a
Speaker 1: couple of articles I had not seen, it is impossible
Speaker 1: to see all of the news related to all the
Speaker 1: topics and all the news outlets across America, so I can.
Speaker 1: I will acknowledge many things fly below my radar.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: People call in and bring things up to my attention
Speaker 1: all the time, and I'm like thankful that they bring
Speaker 1: them to my attention. But it's just sort of a
Speaker 1: recognition that you can't stay on top of everything. And
Speaker 1: so it was through this back and forth exchange regarding
Speaker 1: it sort of a springing off the problem they're having
Speaker 1: in Springfield with the Haitian migrants well documented by now
Speaker 1: to a problem we have here locally. I guess it's
Speaker 1: Lachland and Wyoming are struggling with an influx of Mauritanians
Speaker 1: that has been building over the past couple of years. Mauritania,
Speaker 1: check it out. It's in Africa, and a couple of
Speaker 1: these articles documented how Mauritanians can get from there to
Speaker 1: hear and I'm telling you it is not an easy
Speaker 1: thing to do in terms of the securitest path they
Speaker 1: have to go through, and all the countries they have
Speaker 1: to go through, and the loopholes they have to exploit.
Speaker 1: It's insanity. Nonetheless, apparently thousands of them have descended upon
Speaker 1: the Greater Sincinnti area, notably locked On, Wyoming. A lot
Speaker 1: of people from lock On, Wyoming chiming in saying yep,
Speaker 1: I can confirm that is the case. So guess what
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas learned something through that exchange. And I did
Speaker 1: click on and looked at some of the articles. One
Speaker 1: was purported by Fox nineteen. And then there was another
Speaker 1: Washington Post article about this situation from June of this
Speaker 1: year that I hadn't seen. June ninth, twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: Tim Craig the headline A home in Ohio for African
Speaker 1: immigrants with nowhere to go, subadding a solumn Secrets from
Speaker 1: the African nation of Mauritania settling in a city drawing
Speaker 1: relatively little attention as immigration to the United States has soared.
Speaker 1: Documenting this current situation so independent journalists have confirmed what
Speaker 1: others were saying in this Facebook exchange brought to my
Speaker 1: attention for the first time this morning. So, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to acknowledge something that after the debate, when we
Speaker 1: were still reeling from Trump taking debate and maybe not
Speaker 1: performing as well as we had hoped, Kamala Harris getting
Speaker 1: away with it, largely because, of course the panel was
Speaker 1: biased in her favor and didn't fact check her and
Speaker 1: allowed her to get away with a lot of things
Speaker 1: that she shouldn't. But going back and reflecting over what
Speaker 1: we learned from her and the polls that have come
Speaker 1: out since then didn't really help her at all. Most
Speaker 1: people befuddled by what she said, didn't really get anything
Speaker 1: by way of substance out of Kamala Harris and I
Speaker 1: will all agree with that, and our focus was more
Speaker 1: on Trump just sort of reacting to some of the
Speaker 1: comments of Kamala Harris, and that was the source of
Speaker 1: much frustration. One of the things I brought up with
Speaker 1: Elextreme to filow was you know, for example, geez, why
Speaker 1: did Trump have to mention the Haitian population in Springfield
Speaker 1: eating dogs and cats. It was one of those stories
Speaker 1: that I didn't necessarily believe when I first read it.
Speaker 1: I even said that out loud on the Morning Show
Speaker 1: on Monday, I think, you know, this is really going viral.
Speaker 1: What we found out as a consequence of that, we'll
Speaker 1: call it meme that there was a cat strung up
Speaker 1: in a tree. That's the one that went viral. Then
Speaker 1: it became dogs and cats are being eaten, and we
Speaker 1: had geese in the park and ducks in the park,
Speaker 1: and these little stories came up and they went completely viral.
Speaker 1: So the city officials denied that they had ever gotten
Speaker 1: any reports on it, and there's some evidence that no,
Speaker 1: there are people that did call the police. But the
Speaker 1: point being, I was arguing that, you know, did you
Speaker 1: really have to go down that road. It has not
Speaker 1: been confirmed that that was going on. But what has
Speaker 1: been confirmed, and what we do know, is that twenty
Speaker 1: thousand Haitians showed up in Springfield over a very short
Speaker 1: period of time, and the residents are dealing with the aftermath.
Speaker 1: That is a failure of the Biden Harris administration, plain
Speaker 1: and simple. They weren't notified, they weren't prepared. They aren't prepared.
Speaker 1: The governor of Wine, of course, is now throwing two
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars in providing resources a national
Speaker 1: guard to help them deal with the whole situation. What
Speaker 1: did Trump do, though, And maybe it was the stroke
Speaker 1: of genius or maybe his desire to just bring that
Speaker 1: horrific sort of idea that Haitian immigrants were eating people's
Speaker 1: pets to the nation's attention, But what it did, everyone
Speaker 1: looked into it, So whether it was true or not,
Speaker 1: it has brought amazing attention to the realities of the
Speaker 1: Biden Harris administration's open border problems or policies that have
Speaker 1: created all these problems. So as I step back and
Speaker 1: reflect further, I'm thinking, hm, and this is kind of
Speaker 1: what Alex said. You know, well, you know that's his Trumps.
Speaker 1: He's bringing it up, and he didn't have much criticism
Speaker 1: for for doing that like I did. But you know,
Speaker 1: a few days later, this story has just absolutely blown up,
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't have. I'm convinced, and I may be wrong,
Speaker 1: I acknowledge I can be wrong, But if he'd had
Speaker 1: just stuck with what my recommendation would have been. Listen,
Speaker 1: just bringing say, twenty thousand people have shown up in
Speaker 1: a community of sixty thousand people, and the Springfield residents
Speaker 1: are reeling from it. You know, you can bring that
Speaker 1: up and it's great points. It's a wonderful illustration of
Speaker 1: the broken border policies under the Harris Trump administrator Harris
Speaker 1: Biden administration. But what really made it viral was the
Speaker 1: fact that he did mention that mean kind of story
Speaker 1: about the pets getting eaten. And of course the left
Speaker 1: reactions is, oh, there's Donald Trump going off or you know,
Speaker 1: the city officials have said this isn't true, but that's
Speaker 1: the repetition of the underlying story. While criticizing Trump for
Speaker 1: bringing it up, the left wing media has elevated this
Speaker 1: story and the underlying realities to the whole world's attention,
Speaker 1: and people continue to talk about it. So here I am.
Speaker 1: I'm going to now give credit to Trump for something
Speaker 1: that I criticized him for and was critical of him
Speaker 1: at the moment I heard the words escaping his mouth.
Speaker 1: It had the effect of solidifying in our minds how
Speaker 1: disastrous Kamalo, Harris and Joe Biden have been for the
Speaker 1: entire United States of America and bringing more focus and attention,
Speaker 1: like okay, the residents of Locke, n Wyoming waving their
Speaker 1: hands around. Perhaps I don't know. I'm just seeing what
Speaker 1: I'm reading, and I'm looking and reflecting on the actual
Speaker 1: you know, mainstream media reporting on the realities of what's
Speaker 1: going on there, and so more and more people say, Hey,
Speaker 1: that's happening in my neighborhood. Springfield isn't the only one.
Speaker 1: Come on, what about us? Where's our love? Hey, Mike Dewarreant,
Speaker 1: how about a two and a half billion do a
Speaker 1: check for our neighborhood? Right, none of which can be
Speaker 1: beneficial at all to Kamala Harrison her efforts to become
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Speaker 1: Jay Right Well that cracks it up every time. I
Speaker 1: know you're like Thomas is labbing again. Every time we
Speaker 1: hear it, it's like I've heard it for the first time.
Speaker 1: Let's hear from Let me forget the peak, tell them
Speaker 1: all right, let me got it out of a system, Pete,
Speaker 1: get it out of your system. Welcome to the Morning Show.
Speaker 1: Happy Friday to you, sir.
Speaker 5: Thanks Brian, thanks for all the information you share with everybody.
Speaker 5: I just want to say when I listened to Alex,
Speaker 5: I felt better about the whole situation, and it appears
Speaker 5: he was correct about because the biggest takeaway from this
Speaker 5: entire debate was a cat and dog thing. But I
Speaker 5: just want to remind people anybody skeptical of that there
Speaker 5: were actually two people arrested for actually eating an eagle,
Speaker 5: which is our national symbol, and he should have threw
Speaker 5: that in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it is a felony to mess with an eagle,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. I mean, you know, and honestly, Pete,
Speaker 1: say what you want about that, and if that is true,
Speaker 1: whether or not it's true, obviously it's the problem, but
Speaker 1: allows you to pivot over to something that's absolutely amazing,
Speaker 1: the recovery of the ego population from the seventies. Now,
Speaker 1: I mean we've got met and testing pairs all over
Speaker 1: the country. Now, the number of eagles had dwindled down
Speaker 1: to a people blamed DDT whatever, you know, the point being,
Speaker 1: there were very few of them, and now look how
Speaker 1: many there are. It's just a beautiful thing, our nation
Speaker 1: symbol back from the brink of extinction. But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what you're right in terms of this is why I
Speaker 1: brought that up as a topic point right out of
Speaker 1: the gate this morning. What do we remember from the
Speaker 1: debate from a couple of days ago, Probably more than
Speaker 1: we'll remember from most of the prior debates, with the
Speaker 1: one exception of the Biden Trump debate, in which we
Speaker 1: all remember one amazing thing, which is Biden did such
Speaker 1: a crappy job and came across as so infirm and
Speaker 1: cognitively impaired that the rest of the world finally woke
Speaker 1: up to the fact that he was infirm and cognitively
Speaker 1: impaired so much that he had to drop out. Do
Speaker 1: you remember anything else from that debate? And you remember
Speaker 1: the aftermath, and I bet you fast forward five years
Speaker 1: from now when you reflect back on the Harris Trump debate.
Speaker 1: The only thing anybody's gonna remember is the fact that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump mentioned people eating dogs and cats, which had
Speaker 1: the effect of bringing the problem of illegal immigration to
Speaker 1: the nation's attention. Whether the point made, the statement made
Speaker 1: was true or not. So that's why I'm saying, if
Speaker 1: he calculated that, then he's brilliant or he just got
Speaker 1: a freebie because he went a little bit off script
Speaker 1: and clung to the crazy component of the story rather
Speaker 1: than focus on the My point would have been again,
Speaker 1: the twenty thousand people, the ratio of residents, the influx
Speaker 1: of immigrants would overwhelm any city five twenty five fifty
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Speaker 1: five suspects arrested after being accused of firing at undercover
Speaker 1: police officers and then leading the police on a pursuit
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati into Coleraine Township. Chief Teresa Thiji said undercover
Speaker 1: officers and District four investigating when a vehicle a vehicle
Speaker 1: when passengers began shooting at the officers and took off.
Speaker 1: Started on Center Hill Avenue when Winton Terrace, continued through
Speaker 1: Green Township before ending on a dead end road in
Speaker 1: cole Ringe Township. Thiji said undercover officers weren't injured. Thank god,
Speaker 1: no officers were injured during the pursuit either. According to
Speaker 1: her statement, we have no suspect in from the two
Speaker 1: or three were in the vehicle. And apprehended. Others fled
Speaker 1: on foot and were later apprehended. At one point stopsticks
Speaker 1: were used and their tires were flattened, but they refused
Speaker 1: to stop. Tij said she didn't know if the suspects
Speaker 1: were juveniles or adults. Thanks Fox nineteen, Chandler Win and
Speaker 1: BJ Bethel reporting on that, and thanks to the WCPOS
Speaker 1: Taylor Wheeler Wider for bringing this one in my attention.
Speaker 1: Since A Public Schools a little bit of a microscope here.
Speaker 1: Thirteen year old taken to since any Children's after shooting.
Speaker 1: After a shooting near Taft High School yesterday afternoon, since
Speaker 1: I Police set officers responded to the fourteen hundred block
Speaker 1: at John Street just a four four pm for report
Speaker 1: of a shooting. Thirteen year old boy was found shot
Speaker 1: in his arm, taking it since at Children's Medical Center
Speaker 1: for treatment and expected to be okay. Police of the
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Speaker 1: dismissal time in a statement. Since A Public Schools said
Speaker 1: it security team responded immediately, bringing students back into the
Speaker 1: school building after the shooting. Dozens of police units then
Speaker 1: locked off the area around the school to investigate. According
Speaker 1: to the CPS statement after all after school activities were
Speaker 1: canceled as a precaution. There will be additional security counselors
Speaker 1: at Taffed High School tomorrow. I e today to provide
Speaker 1: continued support for students and staff, but he said there's
Speaker 1: no suspect information at the time of the reporting and
Speaker 1: the family of a special needs teenager demanding changes after
Speaker 1: teachers that are tried state of high school taped their
Speaker 1: special needs son to a chair. You may recall this
Speaker 1: from last spring. Dustin Hodge, student of West Claremont High School,
Speaker 1: was taped to a chair March first by former teachers
Speaker 1: Alison Vesting and Rachel Smith, who recorded the incident. The student,
Speaker 1: Dustin Hodge, can be heard on the video asking for
Speaker 1: help and telling the teachers to stop. Angela Hodge his mother.
Speaker 1: So the family was relieved, relived the incident in court
Speaker 1: hearings for a months. She hopes it's coming to an
Speaker 1: end soon. Vesting pleaded no contest unlaw for restraint, given
Speaker 1: Communities service and can no longer work with special needs kids.
Speaker 1: Smith found guilty of on lawful restraint and child endangering
Speaker 1: after she went to trial. Scheduled to be sent ince
Speaker 1: October second, Dustin's father, Mark Hodge, speaking with Brenda or
Speaker 1: Don as a Fox nineteen one sup prevent similar and
Speaker 1: since from having again. He said, for him to be
Speaker 1: taken care of by anybody else. You know, you don't
Speaker 1: know what's ever going to happen to him. We want
Speaker 1: to outlive him, so that's kind of our goal. He's nonverbal,
Speaker 1: so he can't tell us if anything happened to him,
Speaker 1: So it's a scary thing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's as weird because they recorded. The teachers recorded this anyway,
Speaker 1: Angel said dozens of families with nonverbal children reached out
Speaker 1: to them when the incident became public. It's nice to
Speaker 1: have that kind of portry support, she said. The Hodges
Speaker 1: parents are advocating for legislative changes to require cameras in
Speaker 1: special needs classrooms. I'll tell you what, how about just
Speaker 1: requiring cameras in all classrooms? I brought that up many times.
Speaker 1: Accord of the High Administrative Code three three seven, recording
Speaker 1: in classrooms isn't permitted unless permission is granted and students
Speaker 1: are notified, meaning it can vary from classroom and classroom.
Speaker 1: Hodges are hoping parents will help him change the law.
Speaker 1: So they're writing letters to Governor Mike Dwaine asking him
Speaker 1: to support making cameras permanent in special needs classrooms. And
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Speaker 1: celebrate the fact that it's Friday enough in and of
Speaker 1: itself for celebration, and as we segue into the stack
Speaker 1: is stupid. Yeah, another actually very attractive looking twenty six
Speaker 1: year old teacher having sex with a student and caught
Speaker 1: for it. This one has an interesting twist to it,
Speaker 1: So we was a twenty six year old what they
Speaker 1: described as abusive teacher admitted a charge of having sex
Speaker 1: with a sixteen year old student. Reportedly, she wore revealing
Speaker 1: clothing and also left scratch marks on the student's body
Speaker 1: after their sexual encounters. US came to light in December
Speaker 1: when Hailey Clifton Carmack was accused of having sexual contact
Speaker 1: with the students. She fled to her family home in
Speaker 1: Texas on December twenty third, arrested January fifth after being
Speaker 1: charged with statutory rape in the second degree, sexual contact
Speaker 1: with student, child molestation, and endangering the welfare of child charges.
Speaker 1: She initially denied the allegations, but later admitted to them.
Speaker 1: Plea deal was signed. Charges were dropped to felony sexual
Speaker 1: contact with the students. Crimes apparently took place over a
Speaker 1: one month period. Reportedly, the teacher was earlier warned by
Speaker 1: the school this was her first teaching job too for
Speaker 1: being in there work it's too close with students. A
Speaker 1: part of the crimes took place on the school premises,
Speaker 1: and the sixteen year old's classmates acted as lookouts during
Speaker 1: their physical intimacy, which you know, every time you think
Speaker 1: about that you're having sex with the student, that student's
Speaker 1: going to tell the entire world what happened. In this
Speaker 1: particular case, they had lookouts posted outside, there were students.
Speaker 1: How epic level dumb can you possibly be? But the
Speaker 1: twist on this one, apparently the victim's father is now
Speaker 1: facing phony charges for knowing about his son having sex
Speaker 1: with the twenty six year old teacher and condoning it.
Speaker 1: Good job, son, she's hot. Cord to the prosecutors, he
Speaker 1: knew of the relationship with the minor child and the
Speaker 1: twenty six year old teacher, and instead of reporting the information,
Speaker 1: he continued to cover for them and allowed the relationship
Speaker 1: to continue. And they said, in their words, even allowed
Speaker 1: this teacher to come over to the house and see
Speaker 1: the victim while dad was there. You think he was
Speaker 1: living vicariously through his sixteen year old son. Joe, Is
Speaker 1: that what that's all about. I used to accuse my
Speaker 1: dad of that living vicariously through me. Oh, anyway, we
Speaker 1: had a good relationship, Dad and me. We have a
Speaker 1: woman rested after walking naked through a subdivision, Cowta County
Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office reporting on this on September two. Wti's responded
Speaker 1: to the multiple nine one one calls about quarter to
Speaker 1: seven in the evening reporting a nude woman walking in
Speaker 1: the Woodstream subdivision. Witnesses said the woman, later identified as
Speaker 1: Amy Lynne's Sides, was seen walking towards Sullivan Road. One
Speaker 1: of the responding officers flagged down by a motorists, who
Speaker 1: directed into the intersection of Fieldstone Lane and Fieldstone Way,
Speaker 1: where her bra and shorts were found lying on the road.
Speaker 1: Searching the area, nine on one, dispatchers received additional reports
Speaker 1: of this naked woman walking on a different road. Deputies
Speaker 1: located her walking on the shoulder of the road, wearing
Speaker 1: only socks, about nine tenths of a mile from where
Speaker 1: her clothing had been found. She told deputies she had
Speaker 1: been walking dude because she was angry. According to the
Speaker 1: incident report, she initially refused to provide her identification, but
Speaker 1: complied after learning another deputy was on the way with
Speaker 1: a fingerprint scanner. Background checks showed that she had an
Speaker 1: active warrant from Spalding Counting for failure to appear. One
Speaker 1: question about drug use, she reportedly admitted to using methamphetamine
Speaker 1: in the past, but was uncertain about the exact time
Speaker 1: of her last use, estimating it was sometime in January.
Speaker 1: Spalding County Sheriff's I was confirmed the warrant request to
Speaker 1: hold sides and she was taken into custody, handcuffed, and
Speaker 1: taken to the Cohededa County Jail, facing public in decency
Speaker 1: charges and being held on an outstanding warrant. Idiots doing
Speaker 1: idiot things because they're idiots, hold your fire on that.
Speaker 1: We go to South Brunswick, New Jersey, where police say
Speaker 1: they are searching for a man who accosted at least
Speaker 1: six women while he was naked. Thority say the concern
Speaker 1: because why are you doing that? He's getting more brazen
Speaker 1: and aggressive. The man most recently targeted someone in broad
Speaker 1: daylight about four pm. All the attacks have happened at
Speaker 1: the same apartment complex over the past four months. Confrontations
Speaker 1: have happened at the Royal Oaks apartment complex and adjacent trail.
Speaker 1: In previous incidents, he approached women between eleven PM and
Speaker 1: two thirty in the morning near a walking path behind
Speaker 1: the complex. Residents of the complex say they've seen the
Speaker 1: same man in the past. Ring video capturem in front
Speaker 1: of someone's apartment door five ten six to six feet tall,
Speaker 1: medium build, long dreadlocks. Official think he could be other
Speaker 1: unreported incidents, or he could be responsible for unreported incidents
Speaker 1: and working developed leads. All the incidents have taken place
Speaker 1: in this one area. Residents being warned to be able
Speaker 1: to look out because police say people seem to hesitate
Speaker 1: to call when they see the naked guy. I would
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Speaker 1: You hear Fiveoin fifty, Hey, I think you about kerse
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Speaker 1: attack of stupid filled with a variety of stories about
Speaker 1: naked people. Thank you, Joe Strecker. We'll go to Madison, Alabama,
Speaker 1: where police are attempting to discover the identity identity of
Speaker 1: a nude guy who law enforcement officers say attempted to
Speaker 1: steal one of their patrol cars. Happened yesterday afternoon, netwhe
Speaker 1: why are you doing that? After a string of incidents
Speaker 1: along a busy highway about one thirty five in the afternoon,
Speaker 1: police from Madison and Huntsville respond to multiple nine to
Speaker 1: one one calls in the area of Alabama seventy two West.
Speaker 1: Calls from Medicine, Bowling Center, Burger King, Walmart, Mister Carwash
Speaker 1: reported a nude guy trying to enter people's vehicles, breaking windows,
Speaker 1: assaulting people. Callers also said the man was possibly dragged
Speaker 1: by one of the vehicles after trying to get into
Speaker 1: it one was occupied. Police shot up and see made
Speaker 1: contact with a man. According to the police, the unidentified
Speaker 1: guy attempted to enter and then steal an officer's patrol car.
Speaker 1: The officer used force to detain the many I bet
Speaker 1: he did. Huntsville police investigating alleged crimes that occurred prior
Speaker 1: to the officer the officers showing up. They arrested the
Speaker 1: man for attempted theft of police vehicle and other alleged
Speaker 1: public order crimes. Taken to the Huntsville Hospital for a
Speaker 1: medical treatment and will be or is probably already in jail.
Speaker 1: They said he would be jailed upon release and alleged
Speaker 1: krthy thought he got away from the police. He didn't.
Speaker 1: He was ultimately found inside a garbage can naked. You
Speaker 1: knew that was coming. The naked guy took off running
Speaker 1: after deputy's he stopped his what they described as suspicious vehicle.
Speaker 1: This in Frederickson, Washington. Jumped multiple fences before Pierce County
Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department debuties lost sight of him, and that's when
Speaker 1: they brought in their canine Bronco to London assist by
Speaker 1: Buddy camer Footage shows the large black dog on a hardness,
Speaker 1: barking fiercely, leading deputies to a blue trash can in
Speaker 1: somebody's backyard. Deputy lifted the lid slightly revealing the suspect inside.
Speaker 1: Deputy can be heard saying on camera, Hey, dude, come
Speaker 1: out of there right now, or you're going to get
Speaker 1: bit by a dog. Dog continued barking. Suspect stuck both
Speaker 1: of his hands out of the garbage can with the
Speaker 1: lid still covering his head. While deputies were yelling hands up,
Speaker 1: hands up, stand up, and turn around. He did merging
Speaker 1: with his back to the deputies as they ordered him
Speaker 1: to put his hands behind his back. One deputy, don't
Speaker 1: worry about the dog man taking it too custody, they say,
Speaker 1: without insists. Suspect continuously tried to evade law enforcement until
Speaker 1: he came eye to eye with Bronco quote only wearing
Speaker 1: a birthday suit. He finally made a good decision and
Speaker 1: surrendered to our deputies. According to police, man had seven
Speaker 1: several felony warrants out for him, and he was known
Speaker 1: to have firearms. During the estrange encounter, deputy had to
Speaker 1: run the license plate of the vehicle recognize the owner
Speaker 1: as the passenger of a Ford F five point fifty
Speaker 1: truck that had been stolen ten days earlier. This is
Speaker 1: how they ultimately encountered this guy. The man's four year
Speaker 1: old child got out of the vehicle was taken to
Speaker 1: safety by the deputies, but the suspect and his girlfriend
Speaker 1: didn't cooperate. As a tradition and just read this, deputies
Speaker 1: fired a hole in the rear window of the vehicle
Speaker 1: using a forty millimeter less lethal round, prompting the woman
Speaker 1: to say she was getting dressed at that moment. That's
Speaker 1: when the man fled and then ultimately hid in the
Speaker 1: trash can where he was ultimately caught forty millimeter leslieth
Speaker 1: a round. What what the hell that was anyway? Suspect
Speaker 1: that identified as Jacob Matthew Patterson facing charges including a
Speaker 1: lawful possession of stolen vehicle, reckless endangerment, resisting arrest, attempting
Speaker 1: to elude. He's unlawful imprisonment, property damage, and driving with
Speaker 1: a suspended or revoked license. Theo nothing by charge. Nothing
Speaker 1: about charges of of nudity in public anyway, it will
Speaker 1: be a throwaway at yo. Booked into the Pierce County Jail,
Speaker 1: bail set at three hundred thousand dollars and in response,
Speaker 1: Joe said he did he kill somebody, No, that would
Speaker 1: only be in Hamilton County Joe, he would get a
Speaker 1: bog like that here he probably would have been let go,
Speaker 1: maybe with an ankle monitor in a response to the
Speaker 1: why are you doing that question? It was not immediately
Speaker 1: known why he was naked. Five fifty five fifty five
Speaker 1: kc Detalk station. I have a response in the Bernie
Speaker 1: Mourno camp about the attack. Ad successfully scored a win
Speaker 1: on getting that one that I will let you know
Speaker 1: about coming up. Got a whole lot more to talk
Speaker 1: about before we get the Tech Friend with Dave Hatter
Speaker 1: at six thirty. I sure hope you can stick around.
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Speaker 1: If do you have KRCDD talk station by Thomas here,
Speaker 1: wishing you are very happy Friday, going into a three
Speaker 1: day weekend. Kevin Gordon covering for me on Monday, and
Speaker 1: Joe Strucker doesn't care who's covering for him on Monday.
Speaker 1: Do you know if they ever found anybody? Joe just
Speaker 1: I'm taking my vacation day. I don't care ifull they
Speaker 1: can't find another producer for the show. Yeah for you, oh,
Speaker 1: Sean and Sean McMahon. Okay, good for you Sean and
Speaker 1: uh Kevin Gordon on Monday, and I'll be back on Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: today on the Morning show Tech Friday at the bottom
Speaker 1: of the hour, and we'll together find out what digital
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Speaker 1: hour from now, Fast Forward, Don Heinrich Toldsman, hair Toldsman,
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Speaker 1: opportunities to learn and something else I learned, and I
Speaker 1: mentioned quite a few times over this week that on
Speaker 1: Tuesday I had the benefit in the pleasure of joining
Speaker 1: the Northeast Republican Women Meeting. Great organization, that one. If
Speaker 1: you are in the northeast region of the county or
Speaker 1: the area, you might really want to consider joining that organization.
Speaker 1: Outstanding heavy hitters in Republican politics, but a lot of them,
Speaker 1: of course, Bernie moreno supporters as I am, and was
Speaker 1: an out loud conversation about you know, where's Bernie. We
Speaker 1: need more Endeavorence out what's going on. We're launching the
Speaker 1: ads are going to be running you're going to see
Speaker 1: so much of Bernie Marina you're gonna get sick of
Speaker 1: them by the time November rolls around. So everything's like, great, great, great,
Speaker 1: we need to get Bernie elected. And so the question
Speaker 1: came up, well, what about that attack ed. There's one
Speaker 1: attack ad which accuses Bernie Moreno of him mistreating his employees.
Speaker 1: You may have seen it, so I think it's one
Speaker 1: of the political action committees that's trying to get Shared
Speaker 1: Brown reelected. I don't think it's an I approved this
Speaker 1: message direct from the Shared Brown Camp campaign message. But
Speaker 1: even if it is, it doesn't matter. The message makes
Speaker 1: Bernie Arena it sound really bad, like he mistreated his
Speaker 1: employees or he stole from them or something. So they said,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any explanation for that. Nobody in the
Speaker 1: room knew what the explanation was. And since that's the
Speaker 1: one message that actually sort of you know that, people
Speaker 1: recall like, wow, that's an attack head that might stick.
Speaker 1: I might put Bernie Marino on bad light. He's like,
Speaker 1: what's the response to the question. Someone said something along
Speaker 1: the lines, well, yeah, he addressed that when one of
Speaker 1: his functions, one of his town halls or his meetings
Speaker 1: and just said it's a bunch of nonsense, and in essence,
Speaker 1: go ahead and just look at the court pleetings and
Speaker 1: you'll see exactly why it's a nonsensical message, to which
Speaker 1: I said, well you can't. I mean, people don't even
Speaker 1: know what issue one is in Ohio. Oh no, by
Speaker 1: the way, do you expect them to on their own
Speaker 1: go look up some court website and read pleetings. I said,
Speaker 1: what's the short answer, give us the SoundBite or something.
Speaker 1: And so one of the women there is connected very
Speaker 1: heavily with the Marino Camp and I certainly appreciate you,
Speaker 1: Laurie Goodwin, for getting in touch with them and providing
Speaker 1: me with the response so I can provide it to
Speaker 1: you my listeners. Bernie owned fifteen automobile dealerships, one of
Speaker 1: them was in Massachusetts. Federal law then and now exempts
Speaker 1: commissioned salespeople from overtime, which is an interesting timing on
Speaker 1: this since Donald Trump just came out yesterday and said
Speaker 1: he wants to make your overtime hours tax free. But
Speaker 1: back to the point, Marino Camp made it exempts commissioned
Speaker 1: salespeople from overtime in twenty nineteen, after Bernie sold that
Speaker 1: Massachusetts dealership, the Massachusets Massachusetts Supreme Court, in contradiction to
Speaker 1: federal law, changed the law and concluded that overtime portion
Speaker 1: of commissioned salespeople could not be deducted from the monthly bonus.
Speaker 1: There were two out of the multitude of salespeople that
Speaker 1: worked at that dealership that sued. They didn't punch in
Speaker 1: or out. Their paychecks said forty hours worked and the
Speaker 1: employee manual did not allow overtime without written permission. Fair enough.
Speaker 1: Despite all that, a Boston jerry determined the exact amount
Speaker 1: of overtime they allegedly worked for over three and a
Speaker 1: half years, and awarded them a few thousand dollars in compensation.
Speaker 1: The rest of the judgment was attorney fees. That's it. So, yes,
Speaker 1: that is a simple explanation, and I can understand why
Speaker 1: it's a little difficult to you know, package all that
Speaker 1: into a quick SoundBite. It's nonsense. But because it's an
Speaker 1: important election year and Sharon Brown's going to do everything
Speaker 1: you can to deceive the public, at least we got
Speaker 1: the answer to that question. So there you go. Five three, seven,
Speaker 1: four nine fifty five hundred eight hundred eighty two to
Speaker 1: three talk found FI fifty on AHT ANDG phone, and
Speaker 1: I thought this was rather an interesting article. I liked
Speaker 1: it because it is yet another reflection of the absolute
Speaker 1: incompetence of government. And well, they're reckless spending our labor
Speaker 1: in the form of our tax dollars. And because it's
Speaker 1: Tech Friday, so we bring all these things together. IRS
Speaker 1: has been spending the last decade, a last decade making
Speaker 1: an upgrade to its individual master file. And that master
Speaker 1: file apparently is the digital silo in which more than
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty four million tax files are held,
Speaker 1: and they have to keep it up up to date.
Speaker 1: And they had been trying to upgrade the system now
Speaker 1: for a long time, more than a decade, so they
Speaker 1: can help enable speedy, inaccurate refunds. They were supposed to
Speaker 1: launch this new system next year. They just announced, I
Speaker 1: guess it was yesterday the day before anyway, this week,
Speaker 1: that it was going to be delayed another year. Now
Speaker 1: here's where the tech part comes in, and here's where
Speaker 1: the efficiency and effectiveness of our federal guest comes in.
Speaker 1: And how much money do we give the IRS every year?
Speaker 1: I know, way too much? Thank you, Joe Strecker. The
Speaker 1: database was written in the nineteen sixties by IBM and engineers.
Speaker 1: The journal points out run around the time that they
Speaker 1: were working on the Apollo program, and it's noted and
Speaker 1: this is where I found it. I actually laughed. The
Speaker 1: system runs on what they described as a nearly extinct
Speaker 1: computer language, and I do recall this computer language. Anybody
Speaker 1: out there remember Cobal Joe Strecker at an FCC non
Speaker 1: compliant reaction to that. I remember one of my college
Speaker 1: classmates walking around with a book that had Cobal off
Speaker 1: the front of it. Anyway, that was back in the
Speaker 1: very early eighties. Anyway, Cobal is not used anymore, and
Speaker 1: maintaining it requires bespoke service. So, in other words, the IRS,
Speaker 1: with this Cobyl language program, is really the only entity
Speaker 1: on the planet that's still using it. By twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: the IRS had only seventeen remaining developers that were still
Speaker 1: considered experts on the system. I guess it's because they
Speaker 1: all died. That's the system they're still using. The Agency
Speaker 1: sought and failed to overhaul or replace the database since
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties. It's spent four billion dollars over fourteen
Speaker 1: years to devise upgrades. And here's the fun part, folks,
Speaker 1: But it canceled that effort in two thousand without receiving
Speaker 1: expected benefits. According to the Government Accountability Office, fourteen years
Speaker 1: four billion dollars to upgrade a system as old as this,
Speaker 1: and they pulled the plug on that entire effort. The
Speaker 1: IRS spending on operating and maintaining this system has risen
Speaker 1: thirty five percent in the past four years. Ready, folks,
Speaker 1: two point seven billion dollars last year from two billion
Speaker 1: dollars in twenty nineteen. This is an annual expenditure. Accord
Speaker 1: to the reporting, The cost will likely continue to increase
Speaker 1: until the majority of the legacy systems are decommissioned. That's
Speaker 1: from a report last month by the agency's inspector General.
Speaker 1: Every year major upgrades are pushback, and that adds a
Speaker 1: large sum to the final tab. Kicking the can always
Speaker 1: costs a lot more. Congress gave the agency billions and
Speaker 1: billions of extra dollars in the Inflation Reduction Act to
Speaker 1: fund a speedy database overhaul. Now, remember that's Inflation Reduction Act.
Speaker 1: That was a fairly recent bill. This is the reality
Speaker 1: what we're doing. Remember I just pointed out fourteen billion
Speaker 1: dollars was spent on a prior effort to upgrade it,
Speaker 1: or four billion, and that prior effort upgrade that they
Speaker 1: pulled the plug on, so more money goes to the irs,
Speaker 1: to the Inflation Reduction Act, and they're still working on
Speaker 1: overhauling it. Since twenty twenty two, it has spent one
Speaker 1: point three billion dollars beyond its ordinary budget to modernize
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Speaker 1: coming to the next In other tech related news, It
Speaker 1: is a Friday. It is moving away from the overwhelming
Speaker 1: immigration problems we're having this country. But again, I'm going
Speaker 1: back to real quickly. To appointed me. In the last hour,
Speaker 1: I'm now giving credit for Donald Trump for doing something
Speaker 1: that I was criticizing him for during the debate, which
Speaker 1: is mentioning that the Haitian immigrants in Springfield were eating
Speaker 1: the dogs and cats. Now, I still don't know whether
Speaker 1: it's sure or not, and I accuse it of being
Speaker 1: some sort of viral made up thing. But what did
Speaker 1: it do. It's the one thing everybody remembers from the debate.
Speaker 1: The left is screaming at him for even mention for
Speaker 1: lying the American people that Haitians are not eating. There's
Speaker 1: been no credible reports of anybody eating anyone's pets. But
Speaker 1: they're talking about it. And by talking about it, everybody's
Speaker 1: waking up to the fact that a small town of
Speaker 1: sixty thousand people has now got a twenty thousand additional
Speaker 1: Haitians living there that they weren't prepared for. And lo
Speaker 1: and behold, everybody else is raising their hand. Well, wait
Speaker 1: a second, it's not just Springfield, Ohio. What about us,
Speaker 1: they said, I learned from the Apparently Lachland and Wyoming
Speaker 1: neighborhoods are overwhelmed with migrants from Mauritania, of all places.
Speaker 1: And thanks to the folks that shot or that linked
Speaker 1: the articles during that Facebook back and forth, because things
Speaker 1: do fly beneath my radar. Hell, that Washington Post, of
Speaker 1: all places, reported on that one. Anyhow, back over to
Speaker 1: tech and Dave Adds alluded to this deep fake reality.
Speaker 1: We've got a new one to worry about deep nude.
Speaker 1: Some per program or created an application that uses this
Speaker 1: weird software system that analyzes ten thousand plus and women
Speaker 1: images of naked women. It's an algorithm. So what you
Speaker 1: do is you feed the out of the program, this
Speaker 1: deep nude program a photograph of a clothed person. Let's think, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe your wife, your girlfriend, your daughter clothed. You put
Speaker 1: it in the program, outcomes an artificial intelligence naked version
Speaker 1: of that picture. Yeah, it does not work with men.
Speaker 1: It only works with women. Like I said, this perv
Speaker 1: created it. Caitlin Bowden, former CEO of Revenge Porn activism organization.
Speaker 1: There is, actually there is one. It's called Badass. Speaking
Speaker 1: with Motherboard, which reported on this, said it is absolutely terrifying.
Speaker 1: Now anyone could find themselves in the victim of revenge
Speaker 1: porn without ever having taken a nude photo. This text
Speaker 1: should not be available to the public. The genies out
Speaker 1: of the bottle on this stuff, folks. Motherboard tried it.
Speaker 1: They've worked. They stuck a whole bunch of different photographs
Speaker 1: in it. The app itself is free, but it's got
Speaker 1: a watermark over any image it creates, so you know
Speaker 1: it's been a fake image created. If you pay fifty
Speaker 1: bucks for the full version of it, it makes the image,
Speaker 1: and some of them quite successful. They say, the closer
Speaker 1: to a woman in a bathing suit than rather fully clothed,
Speaker 1: the more likely it is it's going to come out
Speaker 1: looking like a real genuine image of your naked daughter,
Speaker 1: for example. So it says fake on the created image
Speaker 1: upper left corner, big words fake. But as the article
Speaker 1: on Motherboard pointed out, all you need is photoshop and
Speaker 1: you can remove the stamp fake from the image and
Speaker 1: there you have a naked image that never really truly happened,
Speaker 1: but can look very realistic depending on how you make it.
Speaker 1: So welcome to modern technology. It's frightening stuff, and it
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Speaker 1: with your business computer issues and avoid problems like ransomware attacks.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Dave Hatter, It's always great to have you
Speaker 1: on the program, my friend.
Speaker 3: Always my pleasure to be here, Brian, Happy Friday.
Speaker 1: It looks like the FBI and the Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security
Speaker 1: Agency are well issuing strong warnings about ransom Hub.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so ransomware continues to be a problem, Brian. And
Speaker 3: it's interesting. I don't think I mentioned this to you recently,
Speaker 3: but I know at least one company here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: I can't guarantee you they went out of business as
Speaker 3: a result of ransomware, but I knew they had a
Speaker 3: very substantial ransomware attack that encrypted all of their data.
Speaker 3: And I know they're out of business now, So I
Speaker 3: can't tell you for sure, you know one led to
Speaker 3: the other. But yeah, this continues to be a problem.
Speaker 3: So you've got the FBI and says of warning about ransomware,
Speaker 3: and just as a quick reminder for folks. So ransom
Speaker 3: hub is just you know, one one of many ransomware
Speaker 3: gangs out there doing this sort of thing. Ransomware is essentially,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of fits into the malware virus category
Speaker 3: of software, whether you click a link to download it,
Speaker 3: or they find some weakness in your system. And deploy
Speaker 3: it themselves once it gets in there. Its goal is
Speaker 3: to encrypt as much data as possible, which essentially makes
Speaker 3: the systems that have been encrypted unusable. And then they say,
Speaker 3: you know, if you want to be able to use
Speaker 3: your systems get your data back, you have to pay ransom.
Speaker 3: But the other angle, which has often overlooked in these
Speaker 3: stories is they will also, now while your data is
Speaker 3: being encrypted, steal the data. So when you say, hey,
Speaker 3: you know what, I talked to Dave Hatter over at
Speaker 3: Intrust or someone else that provides these services, and we've
Speaker 3: put some high end data recovery, backup, disaster recovery, business
Speaker 3: continuity type systems in place where you can wipe your
Speaker 3: encrypted systems and restore your data, they say that's nice,
Speaker 3: but if you still don't want to pay the ransom
Speaker 3: because you're able to operate, then we'll just start leaking
Speaker 3: your data on the internet. And you know, it gives
Speaker 3: them that extra leverage. So it's not just that your
Speaker 3: systems are down. They've taken as much data as they
Speaker 3: can get. Could be trade secrets, could be sensitive customer data,
Speaker 3: could be anything anything they can get their hands on
Speaker 3: right right, because it gives them that extra leverage to
Speaker 3: convince you to want to pay the ransom. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's pretty devious, but that's the way these guys operate,
Speaker 3: you know. I have to always remind people when folks say, well,
Speaker 3: I'm too small, this would never happen to me. They
Speaker 3: just want your money. They want your money. Now they
Speaker 3: have different mechanisms and avenues to take to try to
Speaker 3: get to your money. But if your entire business is
Speaker 3: down and they have all your sensitive data, you know,
Speaker 3: you are potentially highly incentivized to want to pay to
Speaker 3: get back in business and to keep that data from
Speaker 3: leaking on the internet.
Speaker 1: So in terms of this particular attack or these groups
Speaker 1: of attack from this ransom hub group, is it different
Speaker 1: in any sense of how it ends up infecting your
Speaker 1: computer systems?
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 1: Or is it simply someone clicked on the wrong link
Speaker 1: that we've talked about so many times over the years.
Speaker 3: Well, that's a big part of it, right, You get
Speaker 3: a phishing email, you click a link, it downloads some
Speaker 3: software in the background.
Speaker 1: I've got a story for you on that one too.
Speaker 3: Or or again, maybe your systems aren't patched, maybe you
Speaker 3: don't have a firewall, maybe there's a lot of different security.
Speaker 3: You know, we like to talk in the industry about
Speaker 3: what's known as defense and depthultiple layers of security. So
Speaker 3: if the bad guys get through one layer, hopefully the
Speaker 3: next layer stops them. Think about like a medieval castle,
Speaker 3: right with a mood and a gate and guards and
Speaker 3: all that. You know, it could be that a system
Speaker 3: wasn't patched. It could be that, you know, you're just
Speaker 3: missing some something and they found a way around it
Speaker 3: and then they just deploy it on their own. You know,
Speaker 3: the hackers love to hit on long weekends because you know,
Speaker 3: on a Friday night before a long weekend, people are
Speaker 3: going to be out, they're not paying attention. It gives
Speaker 3: them the maximum amount of time to inflict the maximum
Speaker 3: amount of damage. You come back on a Tuesday, everything's encrypted,
Speaker 3: your systems are down, and hopefully, you know, hopefully at
Speaker 3: that point you've got some resiliency built into your environment.
Speaker 3: You've got some kind of business continuity plan and systems
Speaker 3: where you can uh restore your data quickly and go
Speaker 3: back to work again. That doesn't get you around the
Speaker 3: issue of they have your data, but at least you're
Speaker 3: not down right.
Speaker 1: Got it so could let me do real quick here
Speaker 1: because one of the guess you know me, I've told
Speaker 1: you million times I don't open anything I get email.
Speaker 1: I got a source because you've you've convinced me that
Speaker 1: you never click on any any attachments. So people sending
Speaker 1: me attachments, I'm sorry, in only a rare few cases,
Speaker 1: michn open one. So I get an email the other
Speaker 1: day and it was a never seen I don't know
Speaker 1: the email person. The address didn't make any sense, I mean,
Speaker 1: didn't come from anybody I was aware of. But there
Speaker 1: was a PDF, or at least what looked like a
Speaker 1: PDF attachment to it, and it was a threatening email.
Speaker 1: You better open this the document and find out or
Speaker 1: you're going to end up in big trouble. And you
Speaker 1: could read, you know, a few lines of sentences on
Speaker 1: the little PDF image, so like you got an indication
Speaker 1: of what was in it. And they said they had
Speaker 1: video of me watching porn, you know, obviously they suggesting
Speaker 1: that I don't know what the document contained in it.
Speaker 1: But and I'm laughing at myself because no they don't.
Speaker 1: None of my computers have the cameras operable on them,
Speaker 1: and they're all covered up. So I knew it was
Speaker 1: a bunch of crap right then. I was staying in
Speaker 1: the fact that I knew that I wasn't over any
Speaker 1: whatever porn sites are accused me of. But I saw that,
Speaker 1: and you know what, this is something for Dave Hatter,
Speaker 1: because I bet if I clicked on on that my
Speaker 1: system would be infected. Can you get infected by opening
Speaker 1: up a PDF file what appears to be a PDF file?
Speaker 3: There, Dave, you could potentially there you go, so perfect example,
Speaker 3: Brian of the types of social engineering. You know, they're
Speaker 3: they're constantly coming up with a new tactics like that,
Speaker 3: and usually it's, you know, whatever you get, whether it's
Speaker 3: a link to a document or some document than links
Speaker 3: to something else, or some infected document in its own right.
Speaker 3: You know, they're typically trying to convince you some there's
Speaker 3: some catastrophe that it waits if you don't act immediately,
Speaker 3: and you know that's how they that's how they get
Speaker 3: you so right, I know, we'll run out of time.
Speaker 3: The three things the FBI says you should do install updates,
Speaker 3: These are things we talk about all the time.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: They mentioned use fish resistant multifacture authentication. That's just a
Speaker 3: little bit higher level educate users. They go on later
Speaker 3: in this article to talk about password management as well.
Speaker 3: You know, use a password manager. There's nothing you can
Speaker 3: do that will make you absolutely impervious to this kind
Speaker 3: of thing. But there's a lot of things you can do,
Speaker 3: many of which are relatively low costs, if not free,
Speaker 3: and mostly frictionless, that will make you a much more
Speaker 3: difficult target. And if you avoid these problems.
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Speaker 1: know how to program in Cobol?
Speaker 3: Well? I probably could if I had to, Ryan, but
Speaker 3: it's been a really really long one.
Speaker 1: The irs could use your help anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the last places on Earth, Tyle be
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Speaker 1: I can take it that anyway. What is death cleaning?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is an interesting idea. Apparently it's a
Speaker 3: Swedish concept where people in Sweden will try to declutter
Speaker 3: their lives before they pass away so they don't leave
Speaker 3: behind mess for their errors.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you know, I can tell you from personal experience,
Speaker 3: like with my grandparents and so forth, having to clean
Speaker 3: out their stuff. You know, it's already a stressful time.
Speaker 3: Now you've got to figure out what with all this
Speaker 3: stuff and documents and so forth. So what hit for
Speaker 3: me with this idea was I saw a Wall Street
Speaker 3: Journal article on taking this to the next step for
Speaker 3: your digital life. Obviously, as we've discussed all the time Brian,
Speaker 3: people spend more time online than ever before. Everything's increasingly digital.
Speaker 3: And I actually had a recent experience with one of
Speaker 3: my best friends whose stepfather passed away and they didn't
Speaker 3: have any of the passwords to any of his stuff,
Speaker 3: so then they had a very hard time you know,
Speaker 3: bank accounts to me taking all the different things you
Speaker 3: need and hopefully not just passwords, but multi factor authentication
Speaker 3: for the especially this sensitive data. Right, good point, and
Speaker 3: if when someone suddenly passes away, and you don't only
Speaker 3: have the credentials for these accounts, but maybe don't even
Speaker 3: know what they all are. You're now adding a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of extra stress and the it's already obviously as
Speaker 3: stressful and unhappy time for folks. So I think this
Speaker 3: is a really important concept because it really just boils
Speaker 3: down to this morbid and you know, unappealing as it is,
Speaker 3: probably to think about your own demise, to start thinking about, okay,
Speaker 3: like if I were to pass away tomorrow, what do
Speaker 3: I have? What do people need to know? And I
Speaker 3: mean this is you know, more innocuous stuff like photos,
Speaker 3: all the way up to begin bank accounts. I mean,
Speaker 3: if someone suddenly passes away, will their spouse even know
Speaker 3: how to pay the bills? Do they know how to
Speaker 3: get to the money? Yeah? I mean thinking of the
Speaker 3: potential problems this could create, especially if you're in a
Speaker 3: relationship where one person kind of handles all this stuff
Speaker 3: and the other person probably doesn't have much insight into it.
Speaker 3: So I think it's an important concept. I think it's
Speaker 3: only going to get more important as more things become
Speaker 3: digital and more people rely on all of this technology.
Speaker 3: And again, it's not just to create less stress during
Speaker 3: an emotional and stressful time, but also to make sure
Speaker 3: that you don't have to get attorneys involved and you know,
Speaker 3: go through all kinds of pain to get access to
Speaker 3: your assets. The other benefit of it in the long run, too,
Speaker 3: is by knowing what's out there, you know, having some
Speaker 3: kind of good inventory of it. Once a person passes away,
Speaker 3: in many cases, you know their information will be used
Speaker 3: for identity theft because there's no one paying attention to
Speaker 3: it anymore. So there's you know, a variety of different
Speaker 3: reasons why you might want to take this on, but
Speaker 3: it really boils down to, you know, you got to
Speaker 3: start out with some kind of inventory, right, I need
Speaker 3: to know what's out there? What are the email accounts? Email?
Speaker 3: Probably other than you know, purely financial accounts is the
Speaker 3: place to start because you know, in many cases, if
Speaker 3: you do need to reset a password or something, it's
Speaker 3: going to go to the email address on file. So
Speaker 3: what email addresses do you have? You know, banks, health,
Speaker 3: insurance and financial information anything like that. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: cloud storage, what subscriptions.
Speaker 1: Clicks and I mean you've got an Amazon account. I
Speaker 1: mean there's just so many many places where you have
Speaker 1: you know, a log in and a password, and maybe
Speaker 1: even a subscription that your spouse might even not even
Speaker 1: know about.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, and you know that you might keep paying
Speaker 3: for if someone doesn't know about that.
Speaker 1: Right, well, hopefully someone will cancel all my credit cards
Speaker 1: if I drop dead tomorrow. I would like to think
Speaker 1: that's one of the first orders of business you would have.
Speaker 1: You would hope.
Speaker 3: But if it's set up to like autopad of a
Speaker 3: bank account or something, you might keep paying for Netflix
Speaker 3: for a long time without even really realizing it. So again,
Speaker 3: the first step is make an inventory. Right now, I'm
Speaker 3: going to argue that in general, one of the easiest
Speaker 3: best ways to do this because it does double duty
Speaker 3: is anything that has an account associated with it and
Speaker 3: requires credentials. Put that in a password manager. So your
Speaker 3: password manager becomes your secure vault with your inventory of
Speaker 3: all of your accounts, allows you to create and manage strong,
Speaker 3: unique passwords for all your accounts, so you get the
Speaker 3: added benefit of you now have a strong password. You
Speaker 3: can have one master password and MFA turned on that
Speaker 3: password manager like I do, and in my safe in
Speaker 3: the basement on a piece of paper, my wife knows
Speaker 3: where to look for it it's the master password pass word. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's actually just password. Password one was too inconvenient, Bright,
Speaker 3: I couldn't pint that extra character. Yeah, she exactly. She
Speaker 3: can go down unlocked to say, get that piece of
Speaker 3: paper out, open my password manager, and everything that you
Speaker 3: know she would need to get into is right there.
Speaker 3: So I have the benefit of using the password manager
Speaker 3: every day anyway, I use one password that would be
Speaker 3: my recommendation, but there are plenty of other good ones
Speaker 3: out there. It's essentially an inventory as well. And then
Speaker 3: you know, the other advice that they give is you know,
Speaker 3: in general, and this is just good advice too because
Speaker 3: of digital foot printing and you know, all the informations collected.
Speaker 3: Eliminate accounts you don't need, get rid of apps you
Speaker 3: don't need, right, reduce that footprint. And then they throw
Speaker 3: out an idea, and this is interesting from a legal perspective,
Speaker 3: you might have some other insight into this. Have a
Speaker 3: digital executor, right as you would have an executor for
Speaker 3: your physical estate. Have a digital executor. Now maybe it's
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Speaker 3: more savvy with these things, you know, and then ultimately
Speaker 3: document all this stuff, Like I say, I have this
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Speaker 3: so that you know if, if, and when something happens,
Speaker 3: because it will eventually, right, you know, my wife knows
Speaker 3: where to go to get the information she would need
Speaker 3: to be able to try to navigate all of this stuff.
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Speaker 1: get in. Which is the subject matter of our last
Speaker 1: point to your Dave Hadda, what's the story you know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, unfortunately, Brian, it's the same old story. Washington
Speaker 3: Post had a headline sinceetic government hackers penetrate US Internet
Speaker 3: providers to spy and if you spend any time paying
Speaker 3: any attention whatsoever to China and hacking, I mean it's
Speaker 3: just everywhere all the time. Yeah, you got every government
Speaker 3: agency warrying about Chinese hacker infiltration. And you know, in
Speaker 3: some cases they're trying to steal trade secrets, in some
Speaker 3: cases they're trying to steal military secrets. I don't think
Speaker 3: money is their prime motivation like the non nation state
Speaker 3: hackers typically, although maybe it is. But you know, the
Speaker 3: big warning and the thing that I'm the most concerned
Speaker 3: and we've talked about many, many times as critical infrastructure.
Speaker 1: You know, that's what's exactly what was in the back
Speaker 1: of my mind. It would just flip a switch and
Speaker 1: the electricity goes out, and they won the war basically.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the FBI has sixteen critical infrastructure sectors. It's you know,
Speaker 3: the common stuff you think of like water and electrical grid,
Speaker 3: but it's also things like chemical plants. And I like
Speaker 3: to remind folks, I'm old enough to remember the Beau
Speaker 3: Paul disaster and people were killed by a chemical leak.
Speaker 3: And if hackers could break into a chemical plant and
Speaker 3: cause the release of a deadly gas like that, and
Speaker 3: that'd be a real problem. Union car Now, Brian, imagine
Speaker 3: at scale if coordinated hacking through Internet service providers, which
Speaker 3: is what this article is about, hacker, Chinese hackers basically
Speaker 3: getting you know, a foothold in Internet service providers. And
Speaker 3: again in Layman's terms, these are just the companies, the
Speaker 3: verizons of the world, the cox communications, the spectrums of
Speaker 3: the world that give us access to the end Internet, right,
Speaker 3: I mean even the big companies like Microsoft go through
Speaker 3: some kind of Internet service providers somewhere. Right, So when
Speaker 3: you think about it, the idea that they would hack
Speaker 3: into these Internet service providers where they would have access
Speaker 3: to sensitive data of the companies that use these providers,
Speaker 3: including critical infrastructure, it's pretty scary. And you know, so
Speaker 3: here's a direct quote. It's business as usual now for China.
Speaker 3: But that but that is dramatically stepped up from where
Speaker 3: it used to be. It's an order of magnitude worse,
Speaker 3: said Brandon Wales, who until this month was the executive
Speaker 3: director of Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency AKASS. Here's a
Speaker 3: quote from an FBI agent. This is privileged, high level
Speaker 3: connectivity to interesting customers. Again could include critical infrastructure, and
Speaker 3: the idea that we're basically constantly under attack by these
Speaker 3: military grade hackers. Now again, I'm only I can only
Speaker 3: tell you what I know from what's been published. But
Speaker 3: I but if I recall correctly, the FBI director said
Speaker 3: that they thought that China had like a fifty to
Speaker 3: one advantage in terms of people trained in China. You know,
Speaker 3: nation state military type people who are hacking on behalf
Speaker 3: of the People's Republic of China. And you know, again,
Speaker 3: if they can get into something like an ISP, that
Speaker 3: can eventually lead them into these critical infrastructure organizations or
Speaker 3: businesses who they want to steal their trade secrets. You know,
Speaker 3: one of the things I always try to point out
Speaker 3: to people as well is if you're a nation state
Speaker 3: like China, do you want to invest billions of dollars
Speaker 3: developing a new drug or a new military technology or
Speaker 3: do you just want to steal the American companies that
Speaker 3: invested all that time and money. I mean, looked at
Speaker 3: the latest Chinese aircraft. Isn't it suspicious how they look
Speaker 3: exactly like ours? Remark the coincidence? No, So, you know,
Speaker 3: you as an individual, there's not a whole a lot
Speaker 3: you can do about this other than be aware, pressure
Speaker 3: your legislators to take this seriously and make investments in
Speaker 3: things like the Ohio Cyber Collaboration Committee. You know, which
Speaker 3: Ohio has got a great program for the state of Ohio.
Speaker 3: And then it's to do the things you can do
Speaker 3: as an individual to protect your accounts so that you
Speaker 3: don't become the whole that they eventually exploit at the
Speaker 3: company you work for. So, you know, I like to
Speaker 3: try to remind people we're all in this together when
Speaker 3: it comes to cybersecurity, and if everyone would work towards
Speaker 3: understanding the risks, not everyone has to be a nerd
Speaker 3: like me. It's not what I'm saying, but understanding the
Speaker 3: risk and then you know, taking the steps they can
Speaker 3: take us a password manager, strong unique passwords, MFA patch
Speaker 3: your software. You know, we could go a long way
Speaker 3: towards making this much much more difficult for the bad guys.
Speaker 3: But when you back to your original point, when you
Speaker 3: think about the fact that you have nation state actors China, Russia, Iran,
Speaker 3: North Korea and others out there. But those are the
Speaker 3: big four in China in particular, I mean, they have
Speaker 3: a lot more assets and resources than the rest of
Speaker 3: these folks. They're constantly trying to hack into American organizations
Speaker 3: across the board. It's pretty disturbing, and you know, I
Speaker 3: don't want to be the doomsday guy here. But to
Speaker 3: your point, Brian, if you get the right things planted,
Speaker 3: and then you decide today's today, because today's today you
Speaker 3: want to invade Taiwan, or today's today you don't like
Speaker 3: something the US did or whatever. Yeah, it would be
Speaker 3: chaos rather quickly. If the power goes out. It's not
Speaker 3: too long after that. There's no way to pump the water, right.
Speaker 1: I know. I've thought long and hard about the realities
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Speaker 1: FC since he gonna demolish historic beer tunnels for a
Speaker 1: stadium expansion. Don Heinrich Toltzman has a few words on
Speaker 1: that subject, plus some others more beer ons on the
Speaker 1: plate at seven thirty with Andy Plugs Dad one of
Speaker 1: the new Hearth, one of the owners of Hearth Brewery.
Speaker 1: It's a new brewery, it's open and Otter flight tri
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Speaker 1: It must be because we have returned the fifty five
Speaker 1: carssee morning show. I call him our resident German expert
Speaker 1: and expert in all things German. Don Heinrich, Toltzman, v
Speaker 1: Gate and Zee. Welcome to the Morning Show.
Speaker 9: Gluten Morgan, escws Air Goats Gates by Deer with.
Speaker 1: You feeling Donk going well, Sir. I appreciate you being
Speaker 1: on the program, and I actually I think I anticipate
Speaker 1: where you are on this particular subject matter. The first
Speaker 1: one we're going to talk about is FC Cincinnati demolishing
Speaker 1: those historic beer beer tunnels for their three hundred million
Speaker 1: dollar expansion project. Aren't these protected historic relics they're done well.
Speaker 9: You know, I might protest my comments by saying, and
Speaker 9: we've been talking recently together. We have a great brewing
Speaker 9: heritage here and I've written a lot about German heritage
Speaker 9: and the brewing heritage. We historically were a major beer
Speaker 9: brewing center, along with Saint Louis and Milwaukee. And it's
Speaker 9: not surprising that in the greater Cincinnati area we have
Speaker 9: about fifty breweries that have come about and they're brewing
Speaker 9: all kinds of great october Fest beer.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 9: I hope we can get together at one of these
Speaker 9: festivals we have. Octoberfest Cincinnati is coming up in a week,
Speaker 9: the biggest one outside of Munich. And one thing that
Speaker 9: should be noted with all these great breweries we had here,
Speaker 9: especially before Prohibition, they built some wonderful and beautiful breweries.
Speaker 9: They look like castles. Unfortunately, they've all been demolished. The
Speaker 9: moor Line Brewery and over the Rhine near Filly Market,
Speaker 9: the Hawke Brewery in the West End, the Wadoe Brewery
Speaker 9: in Newport, they've all been demolished, whereas another you know,
Speaker 9: in other cities in places. Fortunately, some of these have
Speaker 9: been repurposed. But we've lost some great ones here in
Speaker 9: our area, unfortunately maybe landmarks. Now recently, as you referenced,
Speaker 9: it was reported that FC Cincinnati would demolish the Lagger
Speaker 9: beer tunnels in what was the old Lion Brewery. It's
Speaker 9: on the southwest corner of the Central Parkway and Liberty Street.
Speaker 9: And I should say when you talk about lager beer,
Speaker 9: lagger was a German is a German word for to
Speaker 9: store and age. And when Germans came here, all they
Speaker 9: found was a top fermented beer called ale. It's called
Speaker 9: the common beer. And they wanted a bottom fermented beer
Speaker 9: that was stored and aged, leave it usually for about
Speaker 9: a month. And more so, they had they had have
Speaker 9: Logger beer cellars tunnels underground where they could store an
Speaker 9: age the beer. Now the Lion Brewery which was built
Speaker 9: in eighteen sixty six by the vendors Milhauser Brewing Company,
Speaker 9: it was one of the largest brewing companies in our area,
Speaker 9: second only to the more Line Brewery. Later on, prohibition,
Speaker 9: of course, put a.
Speaker 2: Lot of these breweries out.
Speaker 9: Of business, but it was re used, most recently by
Speaker 9: Burger Brewing, but then that closed down and in nineteen
Speaker 9: ninety three the main brewery building was demolishing. I'd like
Speaker 9: to say something about that brewery because I'd written about
Speaker 9: it in some of my books. It was a wonderful
Speaker 9: example a brewery architecture. It was like a castle. It
Speaker 9: had round arches called Romanesque Revival architecture. And where Central
Speaker 9: Parkway is now, it was the Miami Erie Canal, so
Speaker 9: it was located right there along the canal. People like
Speaker 9: to be on the canal because you could ship and
Speaker 9: receive stuff. I mean, you know, that whole area was
Speaker 9: defined by the canal became known as the Rhine, and.
Speaker 10: A lot of breweries were of course and.
Speaker 9: Over the Rhine, but many were also in the West End,
Speaker 9: such as the Hawk Brewery, which unfortunately it's a beautiful building,
Speaker 9: was also torn down, and so the Lion. It was
Speaker 9: called the Lion Brewery. And think about this, the storage
Speaker 9: tunnels it could store their thirty thousand barrels of beer. Whoa,
Speaker 9: but enough for many Logger beer festivals, I would say,
Speaker 9: But yeah, these these longer beer sellers, there were rock
Speaker 9: lined vaults underground where they could store the beer. Now,
Speaker 9: the reports which have been in the media indicate that
Speaker 9: these Louder tunnels were planned to become a restaurant or bar,
Speaker 9: and there would be skylights leading down to a stairway
Speaker 9: into space below where there there's be a bar or restaurant.
Speaker 9: And the reports that I read said this was supposed
Speaker 9: to be a tribute to our brewing heritage, but now
Speaker 9: plans have apparently changed, which ans to me like a
Speaker 9: bait and switch game. Promise something and then change it.
Speaker 9: The new reports indicate that the location of these stone
Speaker 9: vaults interfere with plans for a massive mixed use construction
Speaker 9: near the stadium at the FC Cincinnati Stadium, and the
Speaker 9: reports that they need to remove these vaults for the
Speaker 9: construction there. And so I should also add that FC
Speaker 9: Cincinnati was responsible for the demolition of a church building
Speaker 9: nearby that recently housed the Revelation Baptist Church and was
Speaker 9: originally a German Lutheran church. So you know, there are
Speaker 9: a lot of structures and buildings that have been demolished
Speaker 9: in our area that are parts of part of the
Speaker 9: cultural heritage of our area. I know many people, for example,
Speaker 9: they talk about the alb Theater downtown, and there's other buildings.
Speaker 9: But once you demolish something, uh, it's gone.
Speaker 1: And these well these historic battles have been waged, you know,
Speaker 1: over time, and you know a lot of historic homes.
Speaker 1: We should preserve that. And then well who's going to
Speaker 1: pay for it? And that's usually what it comes down to,
Speaker 1: well who's going to pay for it? But this is
Speaker 1: something that can exist on its own. It's there already.
Speaker 1: I don't know what these vaults don't need maintenance and
Speaker 1: upkeeper anything, do they They're just part of history in
Speaker 1: the right there and just not being so out they
Speaker 1: go and then goes the new buildings and infrastructure. But
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the point you made
Speaker 1: about this is the bait and switch. They had promised
Speaker 1: to keep these vaults. That the original plan involved maintaining
Speaker 1: and upholding the brewing tradition of the city.
Speaker 9: That's what I have read in the reports that the
Speaker 9: reports were that the plans were to have a restaurant
Speaker 9: and bar, that the red lighting and money was described
Speaker 9: as monumental stairs leading down into that space. So there
Speaker 9: apparently were those kinds of plans. I don't know what
Speaker 9: happened to them, but yeah, the recent plans looked like
Speaker 9: they've been changed.
Speaker 2: Now you know, the.
Speaker 9: Beautiful brewery building itself was demolished in nineteen ninety three,
Speaker 9: and as a matter of fact, I wrote about that
Speaker 9: in the Cincinnati Inquirer that time at the time about
Speaker 9: how buildings were being uh torn down and demolished. So
Speaker 9: what what is underground is just like the last remnants.
Speaker 1: Of the.
Speaker 9: Of that brewery and um.
Speaker 1: Surprise, they can't coexist.
Speaker 9: And that you know, the demolition can be undone, right.
Speaker 1: H Yeah, I mean said the case all the time
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, in in ninety early nineties,
Speaker 1: when they when they knocked down the historic building, was
Speaker 1: there a discussion about preserving it and transforming into something
Speaker 1: that people would would use like a restaurant or you know,
Speaker 1: fill in the blank anything. Was there were their efforts
Speaker 1: to save it or was just like yeah, one day
Speaker 1: was there and the next day they knocked it down
Speaker 1: and in favor of building something else.
Speaker 9: Well, the parts of the building, the brewery building were
Speaker 9: used that weren't torn down. Part of it was used
Speaker 9: for the Cincinnati Ballet Company. Uh So there were still
Speaker 9: some parts of the building that were left, but the
Speaker 9: main brew house was no longer there.
Speaker 1: But were there any efforts to keep it at the time,
Speaker 1: there was there any fight because we have these historic
Speaker 1: building fights all the time, Like you know, some win
Speaker 1: and some lose, Some get knocked down, some are preserved.
Speaker 1: I don't know what factors or criteria go into the
Speaker 1: decision making. My question though, to you, Harry Toltzman, is
Speaker 1: at the time before they knocked that building down, were
Speaker 1: there efforts to preserve it, Whether it was an argument
Speaker 1: made to keep it or was it just no, it's
Speaker 1: going and it's gone.
Speaker 9: I think the decision was made at that time to
Speaker 9: tear it down because it hadn't been used as a
Speaker 9: brewery by that time, from about twenty years. I think, so.
Speaker 2: The decision then.
Speaker 9: Was made to demolish it rather than as far as
Speaker 9: I can recall, there were no ideas or proposals to
Speaker 9: preserve the building. So a lot of buildings were demolished.
Speaker 9: But you know, I can understand that that if the
Speaker 9: plan changed now and they want to come up with
Speaker 9: a new plan, I mean, it's understandable then it would
Speaker 9: be very costly and maybe to go back to this
Speaker 9: other idea of having an undernound restaurant and bar and
Speaker 9: so on. But what I would say, and I might
Speaker 9: want to mention too, the tomorrow I'm going to be
Speaker 9: talking at the how House in the West End. I'm
Speaker 9: going to be talking about John how a West End
Speaker 9: bear baron.
Speaker 1: Well Don, I'll tell you what. I'll let you plug
Speaker 1: that we come back is out of time and I
Speaker 1: want to hear a little bit more about what you're
Speaker 1: going to be speaking about in terms of the how House.
Speaker 1: So let's bring her Toldtsman back for a couple more minutes.
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Speaker 1: and Well. He mentioned about fifty plus breweries right now
Speaker 1: in operation, and Hearth Brewery is the newest one. So
Speaker 1: we'll hear about that next. In the meantime, you mentioned
Speaker 1: you're going to be at the John On how House tomorrow.
Speaker 1: He is one of the beer barons you wrote about
Speaker 1: in your book Cincinnati Beer Barons in the Golden Age Brewery.
Speaker 9: He was one of the great brewers in our area.
Speaker 9: He brewed a beer that was called a premium beer
Speaker 9: and had a magnificent brewery that was in the West End.
Speaker 9: Unfortunately that's now gone by how House is the residents
Speaker 9: of the Hawk family is still there and it's maintained
Speaker 9: and owned by the Cincinnati Preservation Association. So I'm going
Speaker 9: to be speaking there tomorrow at ten thirty. I may
Speaker 9: talk about how and beer barons, and also I make
Speaker 9: reference to these buildings that have been demolished. And one
Speaker 9: thing I might mention, I understand that with the current
Speaker 9: plans in place, that they.
Speaker 1: Have to.
Speaker 9: Demolish what is left, what is the remnants of a
Speaker 9: magnificent brewery, wipes out part of the heritage, the brewing heritage.
Speaker 9: But I would say this, Okay, I can understand the rationale,
Speaker 9: but why not then make a contribution to amend for
Speaker 9: the loss of this part of the brewing heritage. And
Speaker 9: I would say, could SC Cincinnati, for example, make a
Speaker 9: contribution to the how House that would in some way
Speaker 9: compensate for the loss of all the brewery buildings that
Speaker 9: we've lost here and then people forget them. And I
Speaker 9: appreciate we're getting new breweries, but we had a great
Speaker 9: tradition here, So I would I would say this, and
Speaker 9: I would appeal to the conscience of SC Cincinnati, that is,
Speaker 9: if it has one to make a contribution for all
Speaker 9: the Billings and the Lion Brewery in particular, that we
Speaker 9: have lost in this church. I mentioned uh that I
Speaker 9: don't think they should be forgotten and just swept away.
Speaker 9: And the how John Howe was an important brewer. These
Speaker 9: brewers gave back to the community. He for example, saved
Speaker 9: the Cincinnati Zoo from bankruptcy when it was just about
Speaker 9: going to the fold and close down. He introduced he
Speaker 9: owned the Cincinnati Reds. He introduced the beer being served
Speaker 9: at a Reds baseball game. So think about that, when
Speaker 9: you go to a baseball game, we take for granted
Speaker 9: you can get a beer. Well, at one time beer
Speaker 9: was was not served at a baseball game. People were
Speaker 9: against a part of the Puritan belief So he pioneered that. So,
Speaker 9: I mean what I'm talking about, what I've been trying
Speaker 9: to record as well. Know we talked about many times
Speaker 9: there are a lot of things in our heritage that
Speaker 9: should of the Cincinnati area. They're important, and this is
Speaker 9: why people come to our area because of our great beer.
Speaker 9: We have here a great heritage, and if things get
Speaker 9: lost in the course of time, some of them ought
Speaker 9: to be remembered. And I think the Lion Brewery was
Speaker 9: an important part of the architectural heritage of our area.
Speaker 1: Well, what time are you going to be at the
Speaker 1: house house which is located for my listeners, it's eight
Speaker 1: twelve Dayton Street, downtown Cincinnati, eight and it is a
Speaker 1: beautiful Italianate home, so absolutely gorgeous historic home that's being preserved.
Speaker 1: What time are you going to be there done?
Speaker 9: I'm going to be there at ten thirty. And I
Speaker 9: should also mention we have some great brewing memorabilia collectors
Speaker 9: and a good friend of mine, Carl Grows, will be
Speaker 9: there and he'll have some interesting, beautiful pieces of last
Speaker 9: where and some one that was produced by the how Brewery.
Speaker 9: They're going to be on display there, so I hope
Speaker 9: people interested in brewing heritage would come out. And I
Speaker 9: would like to thank you too, Brian, for all you
Speaker 9: do to help preserve interest and the heritage of our area.
Speaker 1: All in my mind, it all surrounds fun. Anytime I'm
Speaker 1: hanging out with the Germans or these festivals and doing
Speaker 1: anything with the Germans, it seems to be a festive
Speaker 1: party like atmosphere. And mentioning the word again give you
Speaker 1: to the kite, which always comes up, don Heinrich Toltzman,
Speaker 1: always a pleasure to talk with, my friend. Good luck
Speaker 1: with that speech tomorrow again the Howke House. It's located
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Speaker 9: Thanks so much. Won't keep in touch.
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Speaker 1: So thirty one come up it seven thirty two fifty
Speaker 1: five CARCD talk station, continuing a theme springing from Don
Speaker 1: Heinrich Toltzman about the old days of the brewing in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Our brewing tradition continues. Welcome to the fifty five KRC
Speaker 1: morning Sir Andy Plodgston and Greg Otis, who are responsible
Speaker 1: for the newest brewery in town, Hearth Brewery. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the program. Fellas, is awesome to have you on today.
Speaker 10: Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having us on long Brian, thank.
Speaker 1: You my pleasure. Uh this I know some people who
Speaker 1: brewed their own beer. As a matter of fact, I
Speaker 1: have a relative from my on my wife's side of
Speaker 1: the family that makes his own beer. He does a
Speaker 1: really nice job, but it's in small bats is you know,
Speaker 1: you do it in your basement and you bother yourself.
Speaker 1: My understanding is is that you started in your garage.
Speaker 3: Andy.
Speaker 1: Is that how this all, this, this this Heart Brewery
Speaker 1: came to be.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's it's probably a pretty common story for for
Speaker 10: US craft brewers. We start, uh in our garage or basement,
Speaker 10: brewing in five gallon buckets, you know, cooking on a
Speaker 10: cookstove and boiling that way, and you know, starting to
Speaker 10: share with friends, and then uh, it's it's kind of
Speaker 10: an addicting little hobby and it grows over time, and
Speaker 10: uh it's a it's a fun community. And uh as
Speaker 10: it grows and grows and you start to meet more people,
Speaker 10: that's when the excitement starts to build and leads to
Speaker 10: things like this.
Speaker 1: Well, did you guys know each other for a long time,
Speaker 1: like this was like a hobby like your golfing buddies
Speaker 1: and your brewing buddy kind of thing, or do you
Speaker 1: meet by by virtue of like through your independent home brewing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just kind of curious how long you
Speaker 1: guys known each other and how you got together.
Speaker 10: No, I appreciate the question. Brian, So, Andy and I
Speaker 10: have worked together in our professional lives for almost twenty years,
Speaker 10: and our third partner is, which is my son, Miss
Speaker 10: greg so Coreotis. Our third partner got involved with home
Speaker 10: brewing from his father in law and it did not
Speaker 10: take very long to understand that interest from inside the
Speaker 10: family to connect him to Andy. And these two have
Speaker 10: been brewing together here for the last five or seven
Speaker 10: years and talking about getting the bit by the bug.
Speaker 10: These guys have expanded it to something really impressive, both
Speaker 10: in terms of the size of their equipment and the
Speaker 10: continued investment that way, but also the quality of the
Speaker 10: beers and really honing in on some of the best
Speaker 10: beers in terms of the palate that Cincinnati has to
Speaker 10: offer around here. I would say I was interested in
Speaker 10: that previous conversation about heritage and the one thing, while
Speaker 10: the buildings may be disappearing over time, the ingredients do not,
Speaker 10: the recipes do not, and the heritage is alive.
Speaker 1: And well, thanks, Well, that is wonderful, you know, a
Speaker 1: positive spin on that. I'm gonna pause. I'm going to
Speaker 1: bring you back because I want to talk about hearth
Speaker 1: Bury generally speaking, but also for folks out there that
Speaker 1: may be interested. You know, that sounds like it will
Speaker 1: be fun, because I've always had that in the back
Speaker 1: of my mind, you know, homebrewing. That might be a
Speaker 1: fun hobby to start. I want to find out how
Speaker 1: long it takes you to come up with a great bat,
Speaker 1: because I have a feeling probably a few of them
Speaker 1: went down the drain. I don't know, though, more with
Speaker 1: Andy plugs that and greg otis hang on, will be
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Speaker 1: talking with Andy plodgsdead and Greg Otis, owners of Hearth
Speaker 1: Brewery Cannabilla Choreote is not on the phone, but he
Speaker 1: is part one of the partners in this new Hearth Brewery.
Speaker 1: But you gotta start it out doing home brew. And again,
Speaker 1: I know people who have done it. I haven't ever
Speaker 1: gone down that road myself, although it seems intriguing opportunity
Speaker 1: to be creative. Is it a difficult thing to sort
Speaker 1: of learn? I mean, and I joked about it as
Speaker 1: we went into the break. I mean, I'm sure that
Speaker 1: some of the batches went down the sink. And I've
Speaker 1: heard people like trying to experiment and coming up with
Speaker 1: some really weird beers. And there are some really strange
Speaker 1: ones out there readily available. Is it a tough process
Speaker 1: to learn? How long does it take? Do you really
Speaker 1: feel confident you have a good batch? Guys?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I know it doesn't happen overnight. But there's a
Speaker 10: lot of parallel efforts with cooking, you know, if you
Speaker 10: kind of have a passion for cooking. So yeah, I
Speaker 10: mean you're following a recipe, you're starting out learning by
Speaker 10: what others do with their own recipes, and from there
Speaker 10: you kind of branch out, you tweak recipes anyway, similar
Speaker 10: to the way you would cooking, you know, add a
Speaker 10: little more salt here to a to a pasta dish
Speaker 10: kind of thing. Yeah. So but you know, yeah, no,
Speaker 10: I've had plenty of sink pores with some bad matches
Speaker 10: over the years before I've got things down, you know,
Speaker 10: with with homebrewing, carbonations really challenging. Packaging is difficult. There's
Speaker 10: some different things that you know, now that we're we're
Speaker 10: launching into the commercial world, we're so excited some of
Speaker 10: the some of the headaches go away. But now with
Speaker 10: that new headaches as we're dealing with three hundred and
Speaker 10: thirty gallons at a time. Yeah, but not screw.
Speaker 1: Up, Yeah, I imagine. And I'll tell you what in
Speaker 1: the process you mentioned screwing up and the process of
Speaker 1: screwing up other than maybe trying to combine dumb ingredients
Speaker 1: or ingredients. Ultimately they don't work together. And I am
Speaker 1: a I'm passionate man when it comes to cooking, I'm
Speaker 1: a total foodie. I spent my life growing I grew
Speaker 1: up in the kitchen, still love to cook. So I
Speaker 1: get all that. But in terms of the biggest uh
Speaker 1: like stumbling block that you could run into in any
Speaker 1: given batch brew is it the time on the on
Speaker 1: the on the stove, is it the the fermenting time.
Speaker 1: Where's the biggest problem area in brewing your own beer?
Speaker 10: Well, we always say that the most important thing is sanitization,
Speaker 10: keeping everything clean. Yeah, so what happens to beers, It
Speaker 10: can get a bacterial infection and sour the beer, and
Speaker 10: so that that's our number one concern. We constantly are
Speaker 10: cleaning here, you know, wearing gloves, hosing things down. It's
Speaker 10: it's a constant effort to keep it as sterile as possible.
Speaker 10: That's that's number one priority at all times.
Speaker 1: Well, and dealing with consistency. You know, I'm an I
Speaker 1: p A guy, and there are certain a couple of
Speaker 1: different I p as that I regularly buy. They always
Speaker 1: taste the same, you know, how do you maintain a
Speaker 1: level of consistency, like Okay, alcohol by volume is seven
Speaker 1: point five percent. It's seven point five percent this week,
Speaker 1: next month, next year. It's still going to How do
Speaker 1: you get that level of consistency batch after badge?
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's it's a it's about taking a million readings
Speaker 10: and measurements and adjusting if you have to. So I
Speaker 10: me everything from the the salt content of the water
Speaker 10: to the boil temperatures and times, uh, making small adjustments
Speaker 10: throughout the process. Uh, it's it's yeah, everything you can
Speaker 10: do to try to be as consistent as possible. But
Speaker 10: we're constantly measuring and making adjustments throughout the process to
Speaker 10: make sure that we get the product the way we
Speaker 10: want it every time.
Speaker 1: And there's a sampling component too, like you're a in
Speaker 1: a way that you taste the product along with the
Speaker 1: way to make sure that it is a consistent tasting product.
Speaker 1: Is that is? Have I got that right? Yeah?
Speaker 10: Absolutely, we're we're we're tasting it when when it's a
Speaker 10: hot work coming out of the boil kettle, which uh
Speaker 10: you know, it's kind of tastes like a sweet hot tea.
Speaker 10: At that point, we taste it as it's uh, you know,
Speaker 10: ferm ending before it's carbonated. We take, we taste it
Speaker 10: all along the way, so we have an idea what
Speaker 10: it's going to end up like just just by taste
Speaker 10: right along the way.
Speaker 1: Exactly all right. Well, in terms of establishing your own brewery,
Speaker 1: which is uh, it's the Hearth Brewing companies where they
Speaker 1: is their brewery, it's a Hearth Brewing just period Hearth brewing.
Speaker 1: Did you go around a lot there's like fifty plus
Speaker 1: small breweries in the Greater SINCINNTI, Eric, I've lost track,
Speaker 1: there's so many. Did you go to a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of different ones to sort of figure out how you
Speaker 1: wanted Hearth brewing to look and to how you were
Speaker 1: going to design it? And uh, and that kind of thing,
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't know the first thing about opening up
Speaker 1: my own business, let alone a brewing company.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a really good question. So obviously, yes, we're
Speaker 10: connoisseurs of the craft industry, and we do visit a
Speaker 10: lot of breweries, not only locally but around the country.
Speaker 10: And and I think we do have an affinity for
Speaker 10: a certain feel. Corey Uh has young kids, and we
Speaker 10: are very family centric in the way that we think
Speaker 10: it's very core value to our business, and so when
Speaker 10: we were thinking about where to locate ourselves, first, we
Speaker 10: always we raised our kids. All of us raised our
Speaker 10: kids and are raising our kids on the west side
Speaker 10: of Cincinnati, and so we knew we were going to
Speaker 10: be on the town. But we also knew that this
Speaker 10: was a bit of a beer desert out here. There's
Speaker 10: not a lot of attention given to the West side,
Speaker 10: yet it's the scrowing part of Hamilton County. We really
Speaker 10: think it's an important place for us to invest. So
Speaker 10: we began to look around for the buildings that would
Speaker 10: begin to express that family oriented feel and we actually
Speaker 10: looked at a couple of different buildings out on the
Speaker 10: west side before settling in on what formerly was the
Speaker 10: Burwinkle Market Building in Harrison, Ohio. Great building, good bones,
Speaker 10: a lot of great assets like parking, etc. That make
Speaker 10: it very easy to use. And we immediately saw the
Speaker 10: opportunity by way of this beautiful building, Dutch colonial roof,
Speaker 10: big fireplace in the middle of it. What a great
Speaker 10: place to bring your family and hang out. And hence
Speaker 10: the name. Yeah, it came from the big stone fireplace
Speaker 10: that's in the middle of the building. So identity was
Speaker 10: created pretty quickly. And then it was just a matter
Speaker 10: of how to maximize the use of this property and
Speaker 10: make it a fun place to visit.
Speaker 1: How about that Hearth Brewing. You can find them on
Speaker 1: line at Hearthbrewing dot com. It's it eleven ninety five
Speaker 1: stone drive case you want to go out there, and
Speaker 1: it is I want to emphasize the point you made
Speaker 1: a couple of dons there. It is family friendly, you
Speaker 1: have food, and you welcome everybody.
Speaker 2: We do indeed.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and then it's wide open so you can see
Speaker 10: the brewing process as part of your visit. A lot
Speaker 10: of breweries do that. We feel like that's really important
Speaker 10: for people to be really connected to the process and
Speaker 10: the product. A lot of places indoor and outdoor to sit,
Speaker 10: hang out, play some games, have some fun. We really
Speaker 10: feel like being synonymous with Arison, Ohio and the identity
Speaker 10: of south Southwest Ohio an important consideration. So yeah, we
Speaker 10: want to stay intimate with this community and welcome everybody.
Speaker 10: By way of the first public announcement, our grand opening
Speaker 10: will be Saturday, September twenty eighth, eleven am. We kick
Speaker 10: it off and look forward people come out and visit
Speaker 10: with us.
Speaker 1: Saturday twenty eighth of September. Now on an all important questions.
Speaker 1: You've already covered the food, you already covered the family environment.
Speaker 1: Yes you can, and they encourage you to bring your kids.
Speaker 1: Can you bring your dog?
Speaker 10: Because we have food, you can bring your dog, but
Speaker 10: the dog will have to stay on the outside portions
Speaker 10: of our establishment. We have a nice porch that seat's
Speaker 10: about twenty five thirty people, and what used to be
Speaker 10: the greenhouse for the bar Winkles is now an outdoor
Speaker 10: patio which has plenty of space to hang out.
Speaker 1: Fantastic, gentlemen. I wish you all the best in the
Speaker 1: world on your new business endeavor. Thanks for spending time
Speaker 1: my listeners of me today again Hearthbrewing dot Com opening
Speaker 1: up the twenty eighth of this month. Eleven ninety five
Speaker 1: Stone Drive, Harrison, gentlemen, hope we get to talk again,
Speaker 1: and I'll be in your place sometime sometime down the road.
Speaker 1: I assure you of that. Thanks some my pleasure, My pleasure.
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Speaker 11: Good morning, how are you?
Speaker 1: I am doing fantastic.
Speaker 11: So we got Friday and you're talking about beer. Life
Speaker 11: is good.
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's great. I got Bill O'Reilly
Speaker 1: on the top of our news so really enjoy talking
Speaker 1: to Bill about his new boff In the meantime, we
Speaker 1: got another Honor Flight season start and it's Tuesday.
Speaker 11: We do September seventeenth we start our fall season and
Speaker 11: October twenty three it will be our second one before
Speaker 11: the winter.
Speaker 1: And these are these primarily Korean War veterans for the
Speaker 1: most part. Or where are we right now?
Speaker 11: Well, not this flight. We have about eighty five percent
Speaker 11: of them or Vietnam, and then we have one woman
Speaker 11: this time, and the rest of them are in between,
Speaker 11: like desert storm and things like that. Oh okay, yeah,
Speaker 11: we have a few with health issues that we're moving up.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, we're all getting older
Speaker 1: every day, Cheryl, I get the idea, But I remember
Speaker 1: when the vast majority of the folks on Honor Flight
Speaker 1: were World War Two veterans, and sadly that era has
Speaker 1: passed us. So time does march on. But what a
Speaker 1: great organization is You're are you full up for both?
Speaker 1: I mean obviously for Tuesday you're already full up? Is
Speaker 1: the is the next one already loaded up with with
Speaker 1: UH guardians and veterans as well?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 11: SEEH Tower flights full too. So we work ahead now
Speaker 11: with our new flight management system where we can work
Speaker 11: two flights at once, so they're all they're booked up.
Speaker 11: And then we have all the new e team that
Speaker 11: helps us settle everyone, and there's four of them working
Speaker 11: on it, so it's been going a lot smoother and
Speaker 11: a lot quicker for the vets and for the guardians
Speaker 11: and for us too.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I just love because I know some of
Speaker 1: my listeners would would love to be on one of those,
Speaker 1: and I know from having been on two of them
Speaker 1: that yes, they do. So it'll be an honor, it
Speaker 1: will be an opportunity down the road. Is there a
Speaker 1: wait list that people can get on.
Speaker 11: Yes, there is. You just hit to go to the
Speaker 11: website Honor Flight tri State dot org and on the
Speaker 11: very front page is going to be your veteran initial
Speaker 11: application and your guardians sign up sheet. So once you
Speaker 11: get in our database system, then you're in line by
Speaker 11: your date of birth when we take you. So perfect,
Speaker 11: it's all very organized and we try to keep it
Speaker 11: as fair as we can.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Joel D. Hotterfly Tristate dot organs he
Speaker 1: has many times in the past to the blog page
Speaker 1: fifty five Kercy dot com. So folk can do that,
Speaker 1: and I just really encourage if you have any interest
Speaker 1: in doing it, just do it. So but that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean my listeners don't have an opportunity to participate because
Speaker 1: I have wax poetic about the welcome home ceremony at
Speaker 1: CVG for the for the flight return, which everyone can
Speaker 1: show up at next Tuesday.
Speaker 11: You can planes do back at eight thirty of course
Speaker 11: weather conditions, but between eight thirty and nine, and we'll
Speaker 11: bring all of that's into a parade coming in And
Speaker 11: it's just a red, white and blue, patriotic, unbelievable event.
Speaker 11: So it's right off of the main entrance at the airport.
Speaker 11: You walk straight in and turn to the right. You
Speaker 11: won't have any trouble finding us, just lit up in red,
Speaker 11: white and blue. And we're by that beautiful new mural
Speaker 11: that they have there in that rotanda section before the
Speaker 11: parking garage. So it's really a really open space, really
Speaker 11: nice and CBG has just been wonderful. Yes, we literally
Speaker 11: take the place Hope for four days a year and
Speaker 11: they're very accommodating. I couldn't say enough about our hometown airport.
Speaker 1: Oh, but you know what, I guarantee you the employees
Speaker 1: that re CVG get as big of a thrill out
Speaker 1: of as anybody else that shows up.
Speaker 11: Yeah, they hang around on the sides in case we
Speaker 11: need anything. But yeah they can. They get some beautiful
Speaker 11: publicity and wonder wonderful people. I just can't say enough.
Speaker 11: A lot of honor flights have difficulties with their airport.
Speaker 2: We don't.
Speaker 11: They are top shelf.
Speaker 2: The whole way.
Speaker 1: Well, bring the kids, bring the family, bring your friends,
Speaker 1: welcome home the veterans, and enjoy the absolute just beautiful
Speaker 1: display of patriotism and supporting a lot of folks like
Speaker 1: for notably, as I'd like to point out, the Vietnam
Speaker 1: veterans who were treated so poorly when they return home
Speaker 1: from combat after serving their country. You can treat them
Speaker 1: really well just by being there, and they'll get a
Speaker 1: big kick out of it too.
Speaker 11: Well. It lifts everyone up, mostly the Vets. It gives
Speaker 11: them a little closure on their war experience and hopefully
Speaker 11: their families get to see them being thank for once.
Speaker 11: And it's beautiful. You know, it's a very very community event,
Speaker 11: and the Vets just love it. I mean, we get
Speaker 11: such wonderful notes and calls back to people that are
Speaker 11: crying on the phone saying they had no idea. Nobody
Speaker 11: cared anymore, you know, Oh, no one cared anymore. And
Speaker 11: this really gives them, you know, a little bit of
Speaker 11: closure in this later part of their lives. So it's
Speaker 11: a lot of fun for them and for us to
Speaker 11: you know, mix with the thank you and the graciousness
Speaker 11: that goes along with the trip. But then there's a
Speaker 11: lot of fun involved too well.
Speaker 1: There is and a lot of allergy outbreaks, I might
Speaker 1: point out. It's very emotional, but always in a very
Speaker 1: positive way. On behalf of all of my listeners, my
Speaker 1: veteran listeners, including just everybody else in the Greater Cincinnati area.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Cheryl Popping, everybody involved with Honor Flight tri
Speaker 1: State for doing what you do. And I'll encourage them
Speaker 1: again to get over to CVG next Tuesday for the
Speaker 1: welcome home ceremony because it's fantastic. We'll talk again, I know, Cheryl.
Speaker 1: And when you have that, we get a little bit
Speaker 1: closer to the event. And you have in November the
Speaker 1: Bourbon event. You come on on the program and spread
Speaker 1: the news on that one too.
Speaker 11: That would be awesome. See everyone on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Night looking forward to it. Thanks for what you do again,
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Speaker 2: And if you read Confronting the President's cover to cover,
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Speaker 1: With that question, you and Martin Duggard, your co author
Speaker 1: of these books, and these books my question, and I
Speaker 1: actually looked up the DSM five diagonia for narcissism because
Speaker 1: I regularly accuse most all politicians of being malignant narcissists
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Speaker 1: who actually are they becaing president or politicians generally speaking,
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Speaker 2: Well, there are some people with very positive ambition and
Speaker 2: they want to help other people, and there are presidents
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Speaker 2: And then there are other people who are malevolent and
Speaker 2: they love power and they'll do anything you get it.
Speaker 2: And Lyndon Johnson would be the poster boy for that,
Speaker 2: and then there are people in the middle. But we
Speaker 2: had them all in the forty five elections, actually forty
Speaker 2: six because grew over Cleveland got elected twice. We've had
Speaker 2: them all, and it's my job to kind of ferret
Speaker 2: it out and stop mythologizing people and tell Americans who
Speaker 2: they really were, because the book is relevant to today.
Speaker 2: I mean, one of the really interesting parts of the
Speaker 2: book is that Kamala Harris's campaign is a base on
Speaker 2: the nineteen twenty election. It's a really they're doing exactly
Speaker 2: the same thing as Warren Harding did.
Speaker 3: Kidding.
Speaker 2: Nobody knows who Warren Harding is. So buy and you
Speaker 2: go out in Cincinnati today and you stop somebody going, hey,
Speaker 2: how about that Warren Harding? He goes, isn't he here, rapper?
Speaker 2: I don't know he is. He is one of the
Speaker 2: worst because nobody knew anything about him, and he wouldn't campaign,
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Speaker 2: in Marion, Ohio, and if you wanted to see him,
Speaker 2: he had to go there and way up to him
Speaker 2: and he gets in and it was his absolute disaster.
Speaker 2: And it's so relevant today because we don't know anything
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Speaker 2: What values of those ladies?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 2: So I tried to make the book very relevant to
Speaker 2: what Americans are going through this year.
Speaker 1: Well, I grabbed a hold of Hearting there because I
Speaker 1: noted from the materials. And this is the first time
Speaker 1: you and I have talked where I have not read
Speaker 1: your book in advance. I'll acknowledge that ahead because you
Speaker 1: quite often asked that question directly of those who were
Speaker 1: interviewing you. But I will read it. But Harding apparently
Speaker 1: had a lot of extramarital affairs as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he conducted them in the White House. I mean,
Speaker 2: but it's even worse than that. While the campaign was
Speaker 2: going on, his mistress gave birth to his kid and
Speaker 2: nobody reported it was insane. So this is a real villain,
Speaker 2: this Harding guy. And you know, Commas not nearly what
Speaker 2: he was, but the techniques that he used to achieve
Speaker 2: power being used again today.
Speaker 1: And I guess that's to me that the American people
Speaker 1: are responsible for allowing that. How can someone who you
Speaker 1: know nothing about get elected by the American people? I guess,
Speaker 1: going back to Harding again, how did they pull it
Speaker 1: off back then? How did people remain so in the
Speaker 1: dark about someone yet elect him for president.
Speaker 2: Well, it was just coming up World War One and
Speaker 2: we didn't have TV. Radio was in its infancy. The
Speaker 2: papers were they were okay, but you know out in Marion, Ohio,
Speaker 2: Hardy himself owned the newspapers. So it wasn't the folks'
Speaker 2: fault so much. Then they were cut up with Woodrow
Speaker 2: Wilson an eight year of the eight years of Democrats
Speaker 2: in the World War One era. It wasn't so much
Speaker 2: the folks. It was here's how we're going to get power.
Speaker 2: We know the Republicans knew that Harding was ridiculous, but
Speaker 2: didn't have anybody else, and he was a good front
Speaker 2: man and they won. And then the kicker on the
Speaker 2: whole story is that he dies in San Francisco, and
Speaker 2: some people believe that his wife poisoned them. Florrence had
Speaker 2: had enough of him running around his mistress. So I
Speaker 2: can't confirm that. But Florence got him in the ground fast,
Speaker 2: and all autopsy just Larrence dead. Get him in the ground.
Speaker 1: Well, I have a conversation every week with Judjenna, Paula,
Speaker 1: Tana and we always focus on the Constitution because he
Speaker 1: and I are politically like minded in our are our
Speaker 1: belief in the Founding Principles and what's embodied in the Constitution,
Speaker 1: and that our rights are in fact God given. If
Speaker 1: you had to put your finger on one particular president
Speaker 1: of all of the ones you looked at all of them,
Speaker 1: who do you think under has undermined the Founding Father's
Speaker 1: principles or the principles embodied in the Bill of Rights.
Speaker 1: If I can boil it down to just that part
Speaker 1: the most.
Speaker 2: It's a hard question. I think John Tyler, who was
Speaker 2: a slaver, a trader, you know, to be Canoe and
Speaker 2: Tyler too. We go back to Ohio again with Harrison.
Speaker 2: He dies John Tyler. Nobody knows much about him. He's
Speaker 2: VP Southern guy. Virginia comes in and you know, pretty
Speaker 2: much runs roughshot over the Constitution. Everything he wanted, he
Speaker 2: beat over like hundreds of bills, and then when the
Speaker 2: war broke out he became a senator for the Confederacy.
Speaker 2: He's a trader, I mean, so this guy was about
Speaker 2: as low as you can go about trying to undermine
Speaker 2: our Constitution, and overall.
Speaker 1: Your assessment of the Reagan administration. That's when I came
Speaker 1: of political age, Bill O'Reilly, and I just just really
Speaker 1: embraced Reagan's presidency. He was uplifting, he you know, it
Speaker 1: was just a positive guy. And of course he had
Speaker 1: a very successful presidency. Anything about Reagan that you get
Speaker 1: popped up there that you found out about that most
Speaker 1: people wouldn't even know about. I mean, I know about
Speaker 1: the Iran Contra affair, but what about you know, these
Speaker 1: other select details of these other scanners were something that
Speaker 1: maybe is really great about Reagan that we don't know about.
Speaker 2: Well, we wrote Killing Reagan, So if you really want
Speaker 2: to know about the man, that soup to nuts right there.
Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan was a successful president because of his largely
Speaker 2: because of his demeanor, his optimism. Yeah, he lifted the
Speaker 2: country out of his Jimmy Carter Malaise Carter very similar
Speaker 2: to Joe Biden, but Biden was worse in Carter. Carter
Speaker 2: at least tried Biden, did you try so? Reagan, the
Speaker 2: force of his personality and that he knew how to
Speaker 2: present himself was his strongest suit. Second strongest was his
Speaker 2: vision that we can collapse communism if the United States
Speaker 2: develops this weaponry that the Russians just don't have the
Speaker 2: money to do it. That was a pretty brilliant strategy
Speaker 2: and it worked. Now, Sagan was out of office when
Speaker 2: the Berlin Wall came down and the Soviet Union collapsed,
Speaker 2: But it was him.
Speaker 12: He was the.
Speaker 2: Architect of that, and he had very firm beliefs. By
Speaker 2: the way, Ronald Ray, he wasn't always she washing. So
Speaker 2: Reagan was an excellent president.
Speaker 1: He's in a top ten kind of figured. You reached
Speaker 1: that conclusion well in your assessing Donald Trump. Of course,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a choice here in November. We have
Speaker 1: no idea who Kamala Harris is other than the things
Speaker 1: that in position. She'd out loud taken as she tried
Speaker 1: to run for president, but no one had any interest
Speaker 1: in her. But you had four years of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Of course, his administration plagued by all the allegations of
Speaker 1: collusion and the like. What's your overall assessment of Trump
Speaker 1: as you as you dealt with it in confronting the presidents, Well.
Speaker 2: He governed well for four years in my opinion, if
Speaker 2: you look at the economy. Of course, Covid interrupted it,
Speaker 2: but he's a libertarian, capitalist and at worked and real
Speaker 2: wages is to proof they went up hundred percent for
Speaker 2: everybody across the board. That's a really remarkable achievement. So
Speaker 2: in the four years that he was there, he did
Speaker 2: a much better job than Biden did in three and
Speaker 2: a half. I mean, there's not even any comparison there.
Speaker 2: So Trump should be ahead by ten points over Harris,
Speaker 2: but he's not because he muddles the waters with crazy
Speaker 2: stuff and that hurts him dramatically with people who don't
Speaker 2: really pay close attention. They really don't know policy, and
Speaker 2: they don't know how things get done, but they hear
Speaker 2: stuff on they hear him say crazy stuff, and they
Speaker 2: go and this guy, I'm tired of him. So with
Speaker 2: Trump as a mixed bag, he's a deal maker and
Speaker 2: he was successful. He accomplished an amazing thing by even
Speaker 2: getting elected in sixteen. But he just isn't disciplined enough
Speaker 2: to get that message across to the American people. I
Speaker 2: hope that he course correct, but at this point, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, that's that's not a in November that could
Speaker 2: go to her, which would be a disaster for the United.
Speaker 1: States, absolute disaster. Of course, in the amended version of
Speaker 1: confronting the Presidents. He'll deal with Kamala Harris if she
Speaker 1: does become president. He is Bill O'Reilly, along with Martin Duggard,
Speaker 1: the name of the book Confronting the President's No Spin
Speaker 1: Assessment from Washington to Biden. Bill O'Reilly, it's always wonderful
Speaker 1: talking to you. Thank you so much for the books
Speaker 1: that you write. They are a fantastic read and very informative.
Speaker 2: God Bran. After you finish the book, I'll come back.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it further.
Speaker 1: Alright, I look forward to that. Yes, I'll hold you
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Speaker 1: Friday to you come in next week. Were talking with
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Speaker 1: wanted to ask O'Riley about the debate, but I really
Speaker 1: wanted to focus on the book because that was the
Speaker 1: reason he was only John the Morning Show. But I
Speaker 1: was critical after the debate, and I brought this up
Speaker 1: into five o'clock hours, So if you're around an apologies,
Speaker 1: But I wanted to do a quick summary of that
Speaker 1: for folks that didn't hear my reassessment. I was critical
Speaker 1: of Trump for mentioning the eating dogs and cats part
Speaker 1: of it out of that story from Springfield, because you know,
Speaker 1: I thought it was more important to stick with the
Speaker 1: facts that we knew, because there's still claims that nobody
Speaker 1: was eating dogs or cats. That's that's all made of.
Speaker 1: It's an internet meme thing. But there are fifteen to
Speaker 1: twenty thousand Haitian illegal immigrants living in Springfield or there migrants,
Speaker 1: call them migrants. You don't like the term illegal whatever,
Speaker 1: because I don't know the legal status of every one
Speaker 1: of them. So let's not paint with the broadbrush, but
Speaker 1: with over a very short period of time. A city
Speaker 1: of sixty thousand turns in a city of eighty thousand
Speaker 1: without notice and without the resources. I understand it's also
Speaker 1: happening around town. So some some stories going back and
Speaker 1: forth on Facebook, and then some articles that were actually
Speaker 1: written about hundreds and hundreds of migrants from Mauritania settling
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. Notably, I believe it was Wyoming area. But
Speaker 1: what Trump did in focusing on that, he got to
Speaker 1: re talking about the dogs and cats part. But it
Speaker 1: brought to people's focus the immigration problem, and by getting
Speaker 1: people to react to that, you know, Trump mentioned nobody's
Speaker 1: eating dogs or cats, But what were they talking about
Speaker 1: in the context of a city that got overwhelmed with
Speaker 1: an insane number of people they hadn't planned for. And
Speaker 1: it went viral. The story is all across the country
Speaker 1: in every major newspaper, from local news all the way
Speaker 1: to the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post, who
Speaker 1: interestingly enough, the Washington Post wrote about the city of
Speaker 1: Cincinnati getting these Mauritanian immigrants in an article from that
Speaker 1: was part of the back and forth communication on this topic.
Speaker 1: In an article from June ninth, I had never seen it,
Speaker 1: and I don't profess to have seen every single article
Speaker 1: about everything in every paper, but there it is. The
Speaker 1: Washington Post wrote about it in a very glowing welcoming.
Speaker 1: Oh City's welcoming, and there are people there that are
Speaker 1: helping out. But it brought the focus and the attention
Speaker 1: to the or the attention to the outlandish problem we
Speaker 1: have with cities literally being overrun, and Springfield's a great
Speaker 1: example of it. Even got the governor throwing money at it.
Speaker 1: Governor who may have created the problem or help create
Speaker 1: the problem, but at least it brought it to the
Speaker 1: national attention. So I am a part of me wants
Speaker 1: to give him credit for going down that road intentionally
Speaker 1: for the purposes of turning this into a viral discussion,
Speaker 1: or because he's Donald Trump and wants to go with
Speaker 1: the weird, the salacious details, like you know, or the
Speaker 1: strange part. It's the weird stuff that O'Reilly was talking
Speaker 1: about that he inadvertently went down that row, which obviously
Speaker 1: got my intention to made me angry at the time,
Speaker 1: but it still worked out to his advantage because so
Speaker 1: many people are now talking about the immigration situation, So
Speaker 1: props to Trump on that one. And it's still viral
Speaker 1: to this very day. So God bless the folks in
Speaker 1: Springfield having to struggle with the challenges, and I wish
Speaker 1: them all the best in the world. Let's learn about
Speaker 1: self defense when you can use lethal force. Sean Maloney
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Speaker 7: That's what his legal practice is all about, emphasizing gun
Speaker 7: rights practices in all areas of firearm related law in
Speaker 7: both state and federal courts, Second Amendment, criminal defense, as
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Speaker 7: an Empower Youth seminar, the first one of the semester.
Speaker 7: It's next what is it Thursday September nineteenth, beginning at
Speaker 7: seven o'clock with Orlando Sonza talking about his run for
Speaker 7: a congressional District one, and then he'll begin his conversation
Speaker 7: on deadly force, lethal force and the law.
Speaker 1: That'll start at seven point thirty. You want to be
Speaker 1: logged in Empower Youoamerica dot org. Sign up for to
Speaker 1: show up at the Empower Youth studio to have Northland Boulevard.
Speaker 1: It is a pleasure to have you on the Morning show.
Speaker 1: Sean Maloney, Welcome, Thank you, Brian.
Speaker 12: It's great to be back.
Speaker 1: Oh well, you know, I'm a firearms owner. I'm an
Speaker 1: attorney as well as you may know. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean as an attorney that I know anything about,
Speaker 1: you know, the legal realities of firearms. And I didn't
Speaker 1: practice tax law, and I don't know a whole lot
Speaker 1: about the loopholes in the tax code either, but I
Speaker 1: do have a pretty decent knowledge of firearms law and
Speaker 1: what I have over the years heard people and it's
Speaker 1: I think it's a growing problem before we get to
Speaker 1: what justifies using lethal force, that people even who are
Speaker 1: firearms owners, have expressed fear over using them, for fear
Speaker 1: that they're going to get prosecuted, even under situations when
Speaker 1: they are fearing for their life and have would justifiable
Speaker 1: use of deadly force. How do you address that component,
Speaker 1: you know, Brian, That's.
Speaker 12: That's the main reason why I created this seminar a
Speaker 12: few years ago. I'm an entering instructor as well as
Speaker 12: a concealed carry instructor and of course a criminal defense attorney,
Speaker 12: mostly in self defense, and I often wondered how many
Speaker 12: times do people leave classes in the state of Ohio
Speaker 12: or now with perminalists carry How many times are they
Speaker 12: carrying the fire and they really have no idea when
Speaker 12: they can legally improperly use the firem and self defense.
Speaker 12: And I can tell you from representing people that have
Speaker 12: taken another human life, you will not have the opportunity
Speaker 12: to make that decision when the incidents occurring. It's over
Speaker 12: in three seconds for the most part. So that's why
Speaker 12: I created this class, because you need to be in
Speaker 12: fear of death or service by the your harm before
Speaker 12: anything starts in the down the road to using self defense.
Speaker 12: And that's the real problem because like I said, you
Speaker 12: won't have time to think about it kind of make
Speaker 12: that reasonable, proper decision when the incidance occurring. So you
Speaker 12: need to think about it, talk about it, and make
Speaker 12: that decision long before the incident occurs. And you are lucky.
Speaker 12: We have a general idea what's going on. But if
Speaker 12: you ask the general run of the middle person, the
Speaker 12: good girl or the good guy with the gun, they
Speaker 12: always wait too long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they.
Speaker 2: Don't know the law.
Speaker 1: Well, let me give you a little scenario, because I
Speaker 1: know that you've gotten I'm sure that you could not
Speaker 1: have been through your life since January sixth to today
Speaker 1: without being asked this question. Because I say a firm no,
Speaker 1: no one was justified to shoot Ashley Babbitt as she
Speaker 1: was trying to scoot through that little window area. She
Speaker 1: was not threatening anyone. No one was struggling with you know,
Speaker 1: eminent apprehension of bodily harm, that no one was threatened
Speaker 1: with death. So how is it that that officer got
Speaker 1: away with shooting her and killing her? Your thoughts, You.
Speaker 12: Made the perfect statement. He got away with it because
Speaker 12: there was nothing in that situation from what any of
Speaker 12: us saw on the news, and it was all in
Speaker 12: living color.
Speaker 2: He did not have a light in.
Speaker 12: My opinion and many other people's opinions, to use lethal
Speaker 12: force and self defense. I don't know how he could
Speaker 12: have been in fear of death. They're serious finally into
Speaker 12: your harm and won't make that decision for him to
Speaker 12: pull that trigger and kill her. It's not justified. And
Speaker 12: you or I we would lose if we did that
Speaker 12: anywhere in emerge to society and we were put on trial.
Speaker 12: What's your defense?
Speaker 1: Well, one thing in Ohio maybe, And we'll talk about
Speaker 1: this when I'm bringing back the castle doctrine again. We're
Speaker 1: talking with Shaan Maloney. He is a firearms expert and
Speaker 1: a practice of law that involves defending folks that have
Speaker 1: been accused of these types of things. Any firearms related
Speaker 1: issues need to get in touch with Shaan Maloney. Bring
Speaker 1: it back and we'll talk a little bit more about
Speaker 1: this upcoming Empower Youth seminar and the law on firearms.
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Speaker 1: got to be online watching it by stream or at
Speaker 1: two twenty five north On Boulevard next Thursday at seven
Speaker 1: pm to first hear Orlando Sanza had followed up by
Speaker 1: my firearms expert friend here, Sean Maloney. You can find
Speaker 1: Sean directly online at second Calldefense dot org. He's an
Speaker 1: expert in all things firearms legally related. Sean was going
Speaker 1: to ask you about the castle doctrine. So, if Ashley
Speaker 1: Babbitt had broken the window in my front door and
Speaker 1: was making her way into my home even though she
Speaker 1: was not armed, I have a presumption in the state
Speaker 1: of Ohio that she was there to do me grievous
Speaker 1: bodily harm and hurt me, so I could justifiably use
Speaker 1: my firearm or deadly force, as the case may be,
Speaker 1: if she was in my house, in my right on.
Speaker 2: The that's correct.
Speaker 12: When the castle doctrine went into effect, a couple of
Speaker 12: things happened in the state of Ohio. The first thing
Speaker 12: that happened is that we removed the duty to retreat.
Speaker 12: Prior to that, and prior to the castle doctrine, if
Speaker 12: the same person broke into your house and you could
Speaker 12: safely retreat out your back door, well, how the law
Speaker 12: required you to do that before you defended yourself and
Speaker 12: your family. So when we enacted the castle doctrine, we
Speaker 12: also removed the duty to retreat. And the presumption is
Speaker 12: if somebody breaks into your house under the circumstances that
Speaker 12: you just explained, then the presumption is they're there to
Speaker 12: do you harm, They're not there to do anything else,
Speaker 12: and you can reasonably probably use self defense in that situation.
Speaker 1: Now I understand that you know there are certain circumstances
Speaker 1: where just merely grabbing your gun could be considered lethal
Speaker 1: force as opposed to actually pulling the trigger. Under what
Speaker 1: circumstances could you get arrested just from merely, you know,
Speaker 1: having your gun out as it were.
Speaker 12: Those are the cases of brandishing, if you're grabbing a farm,
Speaker 12: pointing it or indicating that you have a firearm. And
Speaker 12: just representative gentleman who was in a road raceed incident
Speaker 12: and a gentleman follow him into the parking lot, an
Speaker 12: argument that had ensued, and this gentleman went to his car,
Speaker 12: grabbed a firem and was in a holster. Never took
Speaker 12: it out of the holster and said, hey, I think
Speaker 12: this is over now. He was arrested for improperly brandishing
Speaker 12: this firearm and for menacing at that point in time.
Speaker 12: And then it all came down to was he in
Speaker 12: fact and fear of death or serious boy into your arm?
Speaker 12: Because remember something, Brian, if you introduced a firearm to
Speaker 12: the situation, guess what somebody is in fear of death?
Speaker 12: And so at that time, the legal system steps in
Speaker 12: and decides were you in fear of death? You were
Speaker 12: serious value in your harmon? Can you reasonably explain that
Speaker 12: he had the opportunity and the ability to hurt you
Speaker 12: and that you were in fear for your life. So
Speaker 12: that's kind of the process that the core system takes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that street ends up running both ways, which is
Speaker 1: why it's important never to brand of firearm if you're
Speaker 1: not dealing with this grievous bottle of injury concern. Now,
Speaker 1: let me pose a scenario for you, one that actually
Speaker 1: happened to me, and let's see what your legal assessment
Speaker 1: is on what I did. Get out of work. A
Speaker 1: guy tried I just summarized it by saying, the guy
Speaker 1: tried to kill me. I'm on the Expressway, a high
Speaker 1: speed lane. He's coming up on me hot I'm going
Speaker 1: eighty five. He's going about one hundred and fifteen in
Speaker 1: a big truck. I get out of the way. I
Speaker 1: go over to the center lane. As soon as he
Speaker 1: passes me, he gets in front of me, locks his
Speaker 1: brakes up, and from that point in the middle of
Speaker 1: I seventy one north of Montgomery Road, all the way
Speaker 1: up to two seventy five Montgomery Road off ramp, which
Speaker 1: is what I take to get home, he is ramming
Speaker 1: into me. He pit maneuvered me, or he tried to anyway.
Speaker 1: On the on ramp to two seventy five, I say
Speaker 1: he's trying to kill me. I mean he's in a
Speaker 1: huge truck and I'm on my little sports car. So
Speaker 1: when my car comes to a dead stop because he
Speaker 1: had disabled by ramming me multiple times right there at
Speaker 1: Montgomery Road, I have my firearm in my hand as
Speaker 1: I'm opening my car door because I'm expecting this guy
Speaker 1: to be right there. Was I justified in paring myself for.
Speaker 12: That, absolutely in that situation, and things have changed in
Speaker 12: our lifetime, Brian, if you think about it, when mob
Speaker 12: violence occurs, you can use your fire or your automobile
Speaker 12: as a weapon just as much as you can use
Speaker 12: anything else. And certainly at those speeds, by what he
Speaker 12: was doing to you, if it wasn't for your driving skills.
Speaker 2: Who knows, could easily have been killed.
Speaker 12: And the presumption is, in a reasonable presumption by anybody
Speaker 12: listening to you, is this guy means to do you harm? Yes,
Speaker 12: So if you're going to say stop he's coming at you,
Speaker 12: absolutely you have a right to use self defense.
Speaker 1: Well, and I tried to flee. I did my best
Speaker 1: to get the hell out of there, because you know,
Speaker 1: I got a much faster car than this guy had,
Speaker 1: but the traffic allowed him to catch up with me.
Speaker 1: That's how he was able to do it. It's just
Speaker 1: I keep reflecting by that. It's been going years, years
Speaker 1: and years ago by this point, But I did think
Speaker 1: about my daughter in that circumstance. She could have been
Speaker 1: easily killed with that pittmaneuver thing he pulled on me.
Speaker 1: Because that's a dangerous area there, and of course your
Speaker 1: cargo is completely out of control. Now let my listeners, no, Sean,
Speaker 1: if you don't mind, because you know I hear it
Speaker 1: all the time. People think that they have the right
Speaker 1: to use deadly force when it comes to people stealing
Speaker 1: things from their house or their driveway, their garages. And
Speaker 1: I want to spell that notion and let you explain
Speaker 1: that absolutely.
Speaker 12: And I always remember this case because I'm sure you
Speaker 12: remember the first.
Speaker 1: Case that you had to.
Speaker 2: Exactly what I mean.
Speaker 12: The United States Supreme Court and a spring loaded shot
Speaker 12: gun case decided that human life is more important than property,
Speaker 12: and we have to remember that. Now there are some
Speaker 12: jurisdictions where there's little modifications of that, but generally speaking, folks,
Speaker 12: human life is more important than any property. And I
Speaker 12: think probably what happened to you and what transported on
Speaker 12: the highway gave a great indication that you understand that.
Speaker 12: Because Brian, what's the best gunfight.
Speaker 2: You've ever been in? The one you're never in.
Speaker 8: Amen, you don't need to do that.
Speaker 12: Remember, human life is always more important than property. Now,
Speaker 12: you may try to stop somebody from sealing something and
Speaker 12: then can escalate to where all of a sudden you're
Speaker 12: in fear of deaths or serious by the name of
Speaker 12: your arm. But immediately the first thought is human life
Speaker 12: is more important than any property. And I'm sure you're
Speaker 12: listening with listeners, are understand the logic in that absolutely.
Speaker 1: And inspite of what that guy tried to do with me,
Speaker 1: I've always I've said it many many times, the best
Speaker 1: thing that happened to me that day is that I
Speaker 1: didn't have to shoot him. He was walking away from me.
Speaker 1: As I was carefully looking around getting out of my car,
Speaker 1: I saw him across the street, like, thank God, I
Speaker 1: don't want to shoot anybody.
Speaker 12: And for your listeners out there, I've had the opportunity
Speaker 12: forced it or unfortunately to represent a lot of people
Speaker 12: that are forced to take another human life. And I
Speaker 12: can tell you something, folks, You're changed forever. You will
Speaker 12: never be the same. And that's why I think called
Speaker 12: the SA's one thing that we offer is psychological counseling
Speaker 12: because folks, you can't imagine that, I can't imagine taking
Speaker 12: it into our life. So that's why we make the determination.
Speaker 12: We go to classes, like I said, par you, and
Speaker 12: we understand when we can legally and properly use loose
Speaker 12: for force and self defense because we all want to
Speaker 12: get home at night to kiss our spouses and our
Speaker 12: kids as a walking the door.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. I'm glad you doubled down on what
Speaker 1: I said there, because, like I said, it's just I
Speaker 1: never want to have to do that ever ever, because
Speaker 1: I anticipate the aftermath in my head. You can imagine,
Speaker 1: you know, every day of your life, you probably reflect
Speaker 1: back on the day that you had to kill somebody.
Speaker 1: Oh'd be awful.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to emphasize another point you made.
Speaker 1: This is why having the weapon with you, a concealed
Speaker 1: or even holstered firearm if you want to carry open
Speaker 1: and I'm not a big fan of it, but if
Speaker 1: the situation escalates, you do go outside and confront that
Speaker 1: person stealing your lawnmower in your front yard, you have
Speaker 1: it available to use if the situation deteriorates. That's the
Speaker 1: importance of preparation, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 12: Absolutely? And again I often wonder if all the classes
Speaker 12: I tea, when people walk out, do they just put
Speaker 12: their firearm in their knight's hand and never touch it again. No,
Speaker 12: I've had friends and they keep their firearm in their
Speaker 12: glove department and now they're in the store, or now
Speaker 12: they're pumping gas, so they're doing something. I said, so
Speaker 12: what good is that gun going to do? You have
Speaker 12: to be prepared, and that preparedness isn't just known by
Speaker 12: the law buying citizens. Every bad guy and a bad
Speaker 12: girl in the world always take a second thought. When
Speaker 12: we introduced concealed carry into state of Ohio, is this
Speaker 12: person armed or isn't they or aren't they armed? And
Speaker 12: that's really what reduces crime in states of the law
Speaker 12: concealed carry. But you have to remember that you have
Speaker 12: to be prepared taking the class. Having a gun at
Speaker 12: home or in your glove compartment, that's not preparation because,
Speaker 12: like I've said, three seconds the people that I've represented,
Speaker 12: the last two people that I represented that had to
Speaker 12: take a human life and self defense. It happened right now,
Speaker 12: and one person was shot at three times before he
Speaker 12: had an opportunity to defend himselves, and the other person
Speaker 12: is being rushed with the guy with a machete. Folks,
Speaker 12: you don't have time, and you don't have time to
Speaker 12: rack around in your chamber. If we're going to carry
Speaker 12: a farm for self defense, it's got to be ready
Speaker 12: all the time.
Speaker 1: Common sense from Sean Maloney, and real quick here, I
Speaker 1: know I have a couple of listeners who will not
Speaker 1: frequent any business that has one of those no Firearms
Speaker 1: ALLOWND stickers on the front door. They can't private property
Speaker 1: owner can prohibit them in. But what of what kind
Speaker 1: of obligation do they then owe you? My argument as
Speaker 1: an attorney's always been from the perspective, well, if you
Speaker 1: tell me I can't defend myself, then you better damn
Speaker 1: will be able to defend me, and that you will
Speaker 1: be liable if you don't. Is there a lie theory
Speaker 1: of liability along those lines that exist under Ohio law.
Speaker 12: Yeah, there's my ability, and it's premacist liability. If you're
Speaker 12: taking away our ability to protect ourselves, then presumably your
Speaker 12: your task with protecting us in ourselves. And I think
Speaker 12: that Gary Farmers many years ago now, when they made
Speaker 12: termination to take their signs there are no gun signs
Speaker 12: off the door.
Speaker 2: They understood that.
Speaker 12: They understood that, I personally know that you understood that
Speaker 12: they don't know anything about the other person without a
Speaker 12: concealed carry permit, but they know that somebody with a
Speaker 12: concealed carry permits never been convicted of the selony has
Speaker 12: taken the class, has had a background check, and they're
Speaker 12: a good guy or a good girl with a firearm.
Speaker 12: So you know that's important.
Speaker 2: I always realize that.
Speaker 1: All Right, one last question for a part company today.
Speaker 1: It's been a great conversation. Sean again next Thursday, seven
Speaker 1: pm at Poweryoamerica dot org or two twenty five North
Speaker 1: and Boulevard to see them live. What's your favorite concealed
Speaker 1: carry of choice?
Speaker 12: My friend, you know I have a bias, and all
Speaker 12: my friends know that bias. I've been a glot guy
Speaker 12: since the early nineteen nineties. Yeah, generally speaking, I carry
Speaker 12: a Glock nineteen, but I did get a glot forty
Speaker 12: three X for my birthday a few years ago, and
Speaker 12: I always tell people in my classes sometimes you have
Speaker 12: to dress for the situation for your firearm and vice versa.
Speaker 12: So I'm a blog guy. Generally speaking, what's on here
Speaker 12: right now is a Glock nineteen.
Speaker 1: That's a larger one. That's a full frame. I got
Speaker 1: a couple of Block twenty six is which are smaller frame.
Speaker 1: But the new concealed carrier choice for me is the
Speaker 1: cig P three sixty five, which has a narrower frame,
Speaker 1: although it still has enough AMO to mirror a double stack.
Speaker 1: You probably are familiar with that. But just a couple
Speaker 1: of choices for my listeners out there is check out
Speaker 1: Sean next Thursday, empower Youoamerica dot org. Sewan has been
Speaker 1: great talking. We can keep up the great work.
Speaker 12: Brian's great talk to you too, and this is just
Speaker 12: a great conversation for your listeners.
Speaker 1: It's been very informative, I'm certain, and you get a
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