Speaker 1: Okay, So you know how everyone always looks up at
the moon, right like it's this familiar face in the
night sky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of comforting in a way, always there exactly.
Speaker 1: But uh, you never really stop to think about what
it is. I mean, this giant rock just hanging out
up there. How did it even get there?
Speaker 2: It's funny how the most obvious things like the Moon
can turn out to be the most mysterious totally.
Speaker 1: And the more you dig into it, the more you
find out that scientists are still scratching their heads about,
like the Moon's origin story, how it got into this
crazy precise orbit, even what it's made of, is a
bit of a puzzle. It's like the closer we look,
the weirder it gets. Right.
Speaker 2: There are these leading theories, of course about how the
Moon formed, but when you try to match them up
with what we've actually observed, it all starts to get
a bit well wobbly.
Speaker 1: And that's where things take a turn for this seriously
strange right, because today we're diving into this wild idea,
the possibility that the Moon might not be natural at all,
that it could be well hollow, like a giant spanhi
parked in orbit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely sounds like science fiction at first, doesn't it.
But sometimes the most out there ideas force us to
rethink everything we thought we knew, especially when the so
called official explanations have so many holes in them.
Speaker 1: Exactly, So today we're on a mission to explore all
the weird stuff, the anomalies, even ancient legends that kind
of sort of maybe support this whole hollow moon spaceship.
Speaker 2: Theory sounds like fun, let's do it so.
Speaker 1: You know, we all learn in school that the Moon
has basically always been there, but the story of how
it actually got there, well, there's no easy answer.
Speaker 2: Definitely not. There are these different theories, each with their
own pros and cons, but let's be honest, none of
them are perfect.
Speaker 1: Right, So let's start with the capture theory. This one
says the Moon was just cruising through space, minding its
own business, got a little too close to Earth, and boom,
Earth's gravity snagged it pulled it into orbit. Problem is
for that to happen and end up with the stable
orbit we see today. The chance of that are basically zero.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for a capture to result in a stable orbit,
you need some really specific things to happen, like there
would have to be another large object nearby to mess
with the gravity, or the Moon would have to hit
a super precise speed and angle, otherwise it would either
smash into us or just keep on flying.
Speaker 1: So not very likely, not really.
Speaker 2: And then there's the accretion theory, which says the Earth
and Moon were like BFFs from the beginning. They formed
side by side from the same cloud of dust and gas.
Speaker 1: Sounds simple enough, right, but.
Speaker 2: There are some big differences in their makeup that just
don't add up. Like if they formed from the same material,
why does the Moon have such a tiny iron core
compared to Earth and their spins are totally different. It's
like expecting twins to be identical, but one comes out
looking like a completely different species.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that iron core thing is a real head scratcher.
And then there was the fission hypothesis, which honestly sounds
kind of wild.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that one's a classic.
Speaker 1: Basically, it says that the early Earth was spinning so
fast like a cosmic disco, that a chunk of it
just flew off and became the Moon.
Speaker 2: And people even joked that the Pacific Ocean was the
scar left behind huh.
Speaker 1: But the problem there is age. We've got moon rocks
and they're way older than the oldest rocks we found
on Earth's ocean floor, so that theory got kind of
tossed out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't quite stick the landing. So that brings
us to the raining champion, the theory most scientists like
right now, the giant impact theory.
Speaker 1: Okay, laid on me.
Speaker 2: So picture this baby Earth is just chilling when all
of a sudden, this Mars sized object slams into it.
We call this hypothetical planet THEA.
Speaker 1: Whoa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about a bad day anyway, This massive impact
throws a huge cloud of debris into space, and eventually
all that stuff A clumps together and forms the Moon.
Speaker 1: So like a cosmic car crash, creates a moon basically.
Speaker 2: And it kind of explains why the Moon has such
a small iron core. The idea is that Thea's iron
mostly merged with Earth during the impact.
Speaker 1: But doesn't that all seem I don't know, a bit
too convenient, Like this random object just happens to hit
Earth at the perfect angle and speed to create the
moon we know and love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it requires some pretty precise conditions, which is why
some scientists have been looking at a newer idea, the
sinestia theory.
Speaker 1: Sinestia sounds like a fancy drink.
Speaker 2: Right, it's actually way cooler than a drink. Imagine this.
Instead of just a regular impact, THEA hits Earth so
hard that both of them basically vaporize, like totally turn
into the super hot, swirling cloud of well planet stuff.
Speaker 1: So no more Earth, just a giant cloud of space dust.
Speaker 2: Not quite. This cloud forms a specific shape of Taurus,
like a donut. It's called a sinestia.
Speaker 1: Okay, So Earth briefly becomes a giant space donut, got it, And.
Speaker 2: As this doughnut spins and cools, the Moon forms from
the outer edge.
Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta admit that's a pretty wild visual. And
again we're talking about this insanely specific event a planet
becoming a donut, than a moon popping out.
Speaker 2: Of it exactly. It seems like the more we try
to explain how the moon got here now naturally, the
crazier the explanations get.
Speaker 1: You would think that after we actually went to the moon,
picked up some rocks, brought them back and steadied them,
we'd have a better idea of what's going on.
Speaker 2: You'd think so, wouldn't you. But it turns out the
moon rocks and soil we brought back have actually made
things even more confusing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't sound helpful, not really.
Speaker 2: For example, on Earth, one of the basic rules of
geology is that the deeper you dig, the older the rocks.
That's how we piece together Earth's history makes sense, right,
makes sense to me. Well, on the Moon sometimes it's
the opposite. The dirt on the very top can be
older than the solid rocks underneath.
Speaker 1: We seriously, what like, the Moon's attic is older than
its basement. How does that even work?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It's pretty wild, right, and it's one of those
things that just doesn't fit with our standard ideas of
how planets form.
Speaker 1: Okay, so strange ages. Check. What else is weird about
the Moon?
Speaker 2: Oh there's plenty more. Let's talk about density.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: The Moon's pretty big, about a quarter of Earth's diameter, right.
You think it would be pretty heavy too.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, logic, right, But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: The Moon is way lighter than it should be for
its size. It's like it's like well, kind of hollow, hollow,
like an empty easter egg sort of. You see, usually
in a big space object, the heavy stuff like iron
sinks to the middle, making the whole thing dense. But
with the Moon, it's like the inside is lighter than
the outside. It's a real puzzle.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the Moon might be an empty easter egg?
What else have you got?
Speaker 2: Oh, we're just getting started.
Speaker 1: Okay, buckle up, let's hear it all right.
Speaker 2: So let's look at those craters on the Moon. Billions
of years of asteroids and meteoroids smashing into it. Right,
you'd think the rocks around those craters would be all
different ages, since the impacts happened at different times.
Speaker 1: Makes sense, old craters, young craters, all mixed up.
Speaker 2: But that's not what we see. The rocks around the
craters are often remarkably similar in age. It's like something
is resetting the clock after each impact, or maybe the
impacts aren't hitting as deep as we think they should.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 2: And it gets even weirder when you look at the
moon dust. You'd think it would just be ground up
bits of all those rocks, right, But it turns out
that dust has a totally different chemical makeup. It's like
someone sprinkled different dirt on top.
Speaker 1: Okay, now, that is just strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's another contradiction that's pretty major. The Moon
doesn't have a global magnetic field.
Speaker 1: Okay, remind me what a magnetic field is again.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like an invisible shield around a planet.
Earth has one. It's what makes compasses work and it
helps protect us from all sorts of nasty stuff from space.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, So the Moon doesn't have that.
Speaker 2: Nope. But here's the thing. When we brought back Moon rocks,
some of them were magnetized.
Speaker 1: Wait, what how can rocks be magnetized if there's no
magnetic field. It's like finding a fridge magnet stuck to
a tree in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Right. It means there must have been a magnetic field
on the Moon at some point, but it's gone now
and that's not easy to explain with our usual ideas
about planets.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is getting more and more bizarre. Let me
guess the Moon's age.
Speaker 2: Is also, you guessed it. We know Earth is about
four point six billion years old, but the oldest rocks
we found on Earth are a bit younger than that,
because well, Earth is constantly changing, melting and reforming.
Speaker 1: Rocks, so old rocks get recycled, got it exactly.
Speaker 2: But on the Moon, some of those rocks are like ancient.
We're talking four point five billion years old, maybe even older.
It's like finding a dinosaur fossil in a layer of
rock that formed before dinosaurs existed.
Speaker 1: Seriously older than the Solar System. How is that even possible.
Speaker 2: It's a big mystery and one that definitely throws a
wrench into our timelines for how the Earth and Moon formed.
Speaker 1: And then there's the stuff the Moon is made of, right,
some pretty unusual ingredients in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not just unusual, some of them are downright bizarre.
We're talking about elements like uranium two thirty six and
neptunium two thirty seven. These are radioactive isotopes that don't
just appear naturally here on Earth radio what now. They're
like special versions of elements that are unstated and give
off radiation, and we usually only see them as a
result of nuclear reactions, you know, like in a power
plant or something.
Speaker 1: So you're saying the Moon is radioactive.
Speaker 2: Not exactly, but finding these specific isotopes on the Moon
raises some serious questions about where they came from. It's
not something you'd expect to find just lying around on
a regular old space rock.
Speaker 1: Okay, radioactive moondust duly noted anything else.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we've got more. And this one's about the
metals on the Moon. You see, there's a ton of
stuff like titanium, chromium, and zirconium up there, way more
than we find.
Speaker 1: On Earth metals.
Speaker 2: Huh so what, well, these are just any metals. They're
super strong, tough as nails, and they don't rust or corone,
easily perfect for building stuff that needs to last like forever.
Speaker 1: Okay, now that's interesting. So you're saying maybe someone used
these super metals to like build the Moon?
Speaker 2: Is it a possibility?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And it could explain another weird thing about the Moon.
The craters, even the big ones, are all pretty shallow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if that always seems strange to me. You'd think
some of those impacts would have gouged out huge chunks.
Speaker 2: Right, But it's almost like there's something hard underneath the surface,
something that prevents them from going too deep, like a
metal shell maybe. And speaking of hating things hard, have
you heard about the seismic experiments they did on the moon.
Tell me more so to figure out what's inside the moon,
scientists decided to well, smash stuff into it and see
what happened.
Speaker 1: That's one way to do science. I guess.
Speaker 2: Hey, sometimes you got to be a little destructive to
learn something new. So during Apollo twelve, they sent the
lunar lander crashing back down to the surface intentionally, yeah,
on purpose, And they had these sensors on the Moon
to measure the vibrations. Okay, and what happened was totally unexpected.
The Moon started ringing.
Speaker 1: Like a bell, seriously, a giant bell in space.
Speaker 2: It sounds crazy, I know, but that's what the data showed.
And it didn't just ring for a few seconds. It
kept going for over.
Speaker 1: An hour an hour.
Speaker 2: That's nuts, totally. And they did it again during Apollo thirteen,
this time crashing a heavier piece of the rocket into
the Moon.
Speaker 1: More ringing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this time it rang for over three hours plus.
The vibrations went super deep, like twenty miles down.
Speaker 1: Okay, something's definitely up put the inside of the Moon.
It's not behaving like a normal solid rock, not at all.
Speaker 2: And to make things even weirder, they found that around
forty miles deep, the vibrations actually sped.
Speaker 1: Up, wait, speed up shouldn't they slow down the deeper
they go.
Speaker 2: Exactly, That's what usually happens in a solid object, the
pressure increases as you go deeper, slowing things down. But
on the Moon, it's like there's this layer where the
sound waves suddenly zoom faster. It's a total mystery.
Speaker 1: The total mystery, and all this weirdness is making that
hollow moon idea sound a little less crazy.
Speaker 2: Right, And we haven't even talked about the Moon's size
and orbit yet.
Speaker 1: Oh right, there's more way more so.
Speaker 2: The Moon is really big compared to Earth. It's like
a quarter of Earth's diameter. That's way bigger than any
other moon compared to its plane in our Solar system, like.
Speaker 1: A chiuaba walking you a great Dane. It's just wrong, exactly.
Speaker 2: It's a huge outlier, and it doesn't really fit with
how we think planets and moons usually form.
Speaker 1: Okay, weird size ratio check.
Speaker 2: What about the orbit, Well, most things in space orbit
in an ellipse, like a slightly squashed circle, but the
Moon's orbit is almost perfectly circular, super unusual.
Speaker 1: So it's like the Moon is on some kind of
perfectly balanced track.
Speaker 2: Exactly, it's not impossible for a moon to have a
near circular orbit naturally, but it's definitely rare, so.
Speaker 1: A big moon a perfectly round orbit. And then there's
the whole eclipse thing.
Speaker 2: Right, Ah, yeah, the eclipses. Can't forget about those.
Speaker 1: The fact that the Moon seems to fit perfectly over
the Sun during a solar eclipse. That can't be a coincidence,
can it?
Speaker 2: Well, it is kind of a coincidence. The Sun is
way bigger than the Moon, like four hundred times bigger,
but it's also four hundred times farther away. Yeah, that's
why they look about the same size from Earth, which
is what makes those eclipses so cool.
Speaker 1: But that's still a really weird coincidence, isn't it? Like?
What are the odds?
Speaker 2: Pretty wild? Right?
Speaker 1: And it was all this weird stuff, all these things
that just didn't seem to make sense, that led two
Soviet scientists in the nineteen seventies to come up with
a pretty radical idea that the Moon is not only hollow,
but a spaceship, an artificial structure brought here by someone.
Speaker 2: It's a theory that certainly gets people talking, and while
it might seem far fetched at first, it actually does
a good job of explaining a lot of those lunar
mysteries we've been discussing.
Speaker 1: It's like suddenly all those weird pieces start fitting together, right.
Speaker 2: They suggested that the moon might have a tough inner
shell underneath all that rock, which could be why the
claters are so shallow and why it rings like a bell.
Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe the moon is a spaceship, but that
brings up a big question who built it and why
bring it here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where things get really speculative. And this is
where we have to start looking at ancient myths and legends, because,
believe it or not, some of the oldest stories from
different cultures around the world world actually hint at a
time before the moon was in our sky.
Speaker 1: Wait, seriously, a time with no moon.
Speaker 2: Yeah it sounds crazy, right, but there are these ancient
Greek and Roman writers who talked about a group of
people called the Proselenes who supposedly lived in a place
called Arcadia before the moon was around.
Speaker 1: A world without moonlight. I can't even imagine.
Speaker 2: It's a mind blowing concept, right, And it's not just
the Greeks. The Tijuanaku people in Bolivia who were incredible
astronomers and builders. They also have stories about a time
before the moon. They said it arrived somewhere between eleven
five hundred and thirteen thousand years ago.
Speaker 1: That's pretty recent cosmically speaking. And you know what else
happened around that time? The younger dryas, Oh.
Speaker 2: You're talking about that crazy period when the Earth's climate
went haywire.
Speaker 1: Exactly, huge temperature swings, massive extinctions. It's like the planet
went through a major reset. And guess what. Tons of
cultures have stories about a giant flood happening around the
same time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the flood myths everywhere. It makes you wonder if
there's a connection between all these events, a new moon,
a climate catastrophe, and a worldwide flood.
Speaker 1: Right. And then there are the Zulu legends. Now these
stories get pretty wild. They talk about the moon being
hollow and inhabited by way for it, intelligent reptilian aliens.
Speaker 2: Lizard people on the moon. Definitely not something you hear
every day, I know.
Speaker 1: Right, it sounds like pure fantasy. But it's interesting that
the idea of a hollow moon shows up again. And
the Zulus also believed that the moon was deliberately placed
in orbit by two powerful beings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like some kind of cosmic engineering project. And you know,
similar stories of powerful beings messing with the heavens show
up in other cultures too, like the Sumerian myths about
the Rnaki.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, the Ananaki. Those guys were all over ancient
astronaut theories, right.
Speaker 2: It's fascinating how these similar themes pop up in stories
from all over the world.
Speaker 1: And the Zulu legends also say that before the Moon arrived,
Earth was a completely different place, no seasons, just this
thing steamy atmosphere, and when the Moon got put in place,
all that steam condensed and caused a massive flood.
Speaker 2: That's pretty amazing because we know now that the Moon
actually does play a huge role in stabilizing Earth's climate.
Without it, our planet would be wobbling all over the
place and the seasons would be totally chaotic.
Speaker 1: So maybe those ancient stories weren't so far fetched after all.
Speaker 2: Maybe not, And it makes you think twice about all
those flood myths.
Speaker 1: Right, totally. But let's move on from ancient legends to
more recent stuff. Because even though most scientists say the
Moon is this cold, dead rock, there have been a
lot of reports of strange things happening up there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Moon is a lot more active than people
give it credit for.
Speaker 1: Like that time in nineteen seventy one during Apollo sixteen,
astronauts saw this huge cloud of water vapor coming out
of the Moon.
Speaker 2: That was a weird one. A giant plume of water
vapor on a supposedly bone dry world, definitely not what
anyone expected. It suggests that there might be some kind
of internal activity going on, or maybe some interaction with
space that we don't fully understand.
Speaker 1: And then there are the TLPs transient lunar phenomena, basically
weird lights and flashes people have been seeing on the
Moon for centuries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the TLPs are really intriguing. Some of them can
be explained by meteoroid impacts or gases escaping from the
Moon's interior, but there are a lot that we just
can't explain.
Speaker 1: Like those glowing mists people keep seeing in the Plato Crater.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a classic TLP hotspot. And then there are
the boulder tracks. It looks like rocks have been rolling
around on the Moon, sometimes even uphill uphill.
Speaker 1: How is that even possible?
Speaker 2: It's a good question. Some of them might be caused
by moonquakes or impacts that dislodge rocks, but the uphill
ones total mystery.
Speaker 1: And we can't forget about the blue Gem in Aristarkis Crater, right, Ah.
Speaker 2: The blue Gem that's a bright blue glow that was
first photographed in nineteen ninety two. It appears and disappears
from time to time, and no one knows for sure
what's causing it.
Speaker 1: It almost looks like, I don't know, some kind of
beacon or signal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard some people say that, but without more evidence,
it's hard to say what's really going on.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got weird clouds, moving rocks, glowing lights.
And then there are those alleged photos of structures on
the moon, towers, pyramids, stuff that looks like ancient ruins.
Speaker 2: Right. Those images are always circulating online. Some of them
are pretty blurry and open to interpretation, but some people
are convinced they show evidence of an ancient civilization.
Speaker 1: On the Moon. I mean, it would explain a lot,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 2: It would, But it's important to be cautious with those
kinds of photos. It's easy to see what you want
to see, especially with grainy images.
Speaker 1: True. But then there's that story about Sergeant Carl Wolf,
who used to work for the Air Force. He claimed
to have seen clear photos of structures on the Moon,
like a whole base from a lunar satellite.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a story that always gets people's attention.
Speaker 1: And he wasn't the only one who supposedly saw those photos.
There was another technician who backed up his story.
Speaker 2: It definitely adds fuel to the fire, doesn't it. And
what makes it even more intriguing is that these photos
were supposedly part of a NASA release, but then they vanished.
Speaker 1: Like someone wanted to keep those pictures under wraps.
Speaker 2: You have to admit it's suspicious totally.
Speaker 1: And let's not forget about the Apollo eleven astronauts, the
first humans to walk on the Moon, right.
Speaker 2: Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin.
Speaker 1: What about them, Well, when they came back, they didn't
exactly seem you know, thrilled. People said they looked kind
of shaken up, even scared during their press conference.
Speaker 2: I've heard that too. Some people think they saw something
on the Moon that they weren't expecting, something that really
disturbed them.
Speaker 1: And then there's the whole mystery of why we stopped
going back to the moon six successful missions and then
poof nothing. Why?
Speaker 2: Officially it was about money and shifting priorities. You know,
the Cold War ended, NASA's budget got cut, and suddenly
going to the Moon wasn't so important anymore.
Speaker 1: But you have to wonder if there's more to this story.
Speaker 2: It's hard not to write, especially with all these other
mysteries swirling around.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's sum all this up. The basic the
idea of the hollow Moon spaceship theory is that our
moon isn't natural at all. It's a giant artificial object,
maybe even hollow, built by someone somewhere and placed in
orbit around Earth a long time ago.
Speaker 2: It's a bold claim, for sure, but it's hard to
ignore all the evidence that supports it.
Speaker 1: But of course scientists have their own explanations.
Speaker 2: Oh definitely, And to be fair, some of their explanations
are pretty.
Speaker 1: Good, like how they say the Moon got here right.
Speaker 2: The giant impact theory is still their best guess. A
Mars sized object slams into Earth, throws debris into space,
and voila, the Moon is born. It explains some things
like why the Moon doesn't have a big iron core.
Speaker 1: Okay, but what about the whole ringing bell thing.
Speaker 2: Well, they say that's because the Moon is less dense
than Earth and has very little water, so sound waves
can travel through it for longer without being dampened. It
makes sense to a point.
Speaker 1: And what about those perfect eclipses. That has to be
more than just luck, right, Actually.
Speaker 2: They say it is most Look, the Sun and Moon
just happen to be the right sizes and distances to
line up perfectly from our perspective. But here's the thing.
The Moon is slowly moving away from Earth, so eventually
those perfect eclipses won't happen anymore.
Speaker 1: So enjoy them while they last, folks.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: But what about those claims that NASA's seismic data proves
the Moon isn't hollow.
Speaker 2: Well, the data we have is from the Apollo missions,
and it's not exactly complete. We still don't have a
super detailed picture of what's going on deep inside the Moon,
so saying it definitely isn't hollow that might be a
bit premature.
Speaker 1: So there's still room for doubt.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And what about all those structures and weird lights
people have seen? Yeah, but not those, scientist says those
are just tricks of the light and shadow, meteoroid impacts
or reflections from shiny minerals on the surface. And you
know a lot of them probably are just that.
Speaker 1: Probably, but not all of them.
Speaker 2: Right, That's the thing. There are always those cases that
just don't fit the easy explanation, which brings.
Speaker 1: Us back to square one. The hollow moon spaceship theory
might seem like a wild idea, but there's just too
much weirdness surrounding the Moon to ignore exactly.
Speaker 2: The more we learn, the more it seems like our
current understanding of the Moon might be well incomplete.
Speaker 1: So what now do we just shrug our shoulders and say, well,
the Moon's weird. Guess we'll never know.
Speaker 2: I hope not. We need to go back. We need
more missions, better data, a real commitment to figuring this out.
Speaker 1: I'm with you there. Let's get back to the Moon
and finally uncovered secrets.
Speaker 2: It's time for some answers, and that's.
Speaker 1: A wrap for our deep dive into the Moon mysteries.
We've looked at the science, the legends, the anomalies, and honestly,
it's clear that we're just scratching the surface of this
whole lunar enigma.
Speaker 2: We've covered a lot, but there's always more to explore,
more questions.
Speaker 1: To ask exactly. And I think that's what makes the
moon so fascinating. It's this familiar presence in our lives,
yet it holds so many secrets, so many possibilities.
Speaker 2: And those possibilities they really challenge us to rethink what
we know, not just about the moon, but about our
place in the universe.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, so, next time you look up at the moon,
don't just see it as a bright light in the sky.
Think about all the mysteries it holds. Think about the stories,
the science, and the unanswered questions, and.
Speaker 2: Ask yourself, what if everything we think we know about
the moon is wrong. What if it's something far more
incredible than we ever imagined.
Speaker 1: What if it's a question worth pondering. Thanks for joining
us for another deep dive. We'll be back soon with
more mysteries to explore.