WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:04.599 Are you and your family prepared for an emergency? Maybe 2 00:00:04.599 --> 00:00:08.199 the fake alien invasion? Now is the time to prepare 3 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:12.199 yourself and your family for any event. Check out prep 4 00:00:12.240 --> 00:00:16.760 starts Now. Their mission is to provide high quality preparedness 5 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:20.519 products that empower individuals and families to be ready for 6 00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:25.640 any situation. They're committed to delivering reliable, trusted gear to 7 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:29.960 ensure your safety, security, and peace of mind in times 8 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:34.240 of need. Their product selection is carefully curated to provide 9 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:37.399 you with the essential gear you need to stay prepared. 10 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:42.439 From emergency kits to tactical tools. Every item is chosen 11 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:47.640 for its reliability and practicality. Prep starts Now understands the 12 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:51.159 importance of family, and their goal is to equip you 13 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:54.200 with everything you need to build a solid plan for 14 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:59.479 your family's preparedness. In today's ever changing world, being prepared 15 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:03.399 is more important than ever, and prep starts Now is 16 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:06.439 here to help you and your family stay ready with 17 00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:10.560 quality products and practical guidance. Use the link in the 18 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:19.439 description and get fifteen percent off your order today. I 19 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:22.599 want to welcome Michael Cameron. He is an author from 20 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:26.239 the United Kingdom. From a very early age, he has 21 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:33.079 experienced paranormal activity and alien abduction phenomena. Michael, welcome, How you. 22 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:36.480 Doing, Hi, Chris, I'm very well, Thank you. 23 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:39.640 Thank you so much for coming on. This is going 24 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:43.640 to be a great discussion. As far as in my lifetime, 25 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:48.799 the events and information surrounding phenomena like hauntings, ghosts, UFOs, 26 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:53.319 and high strangeness in general has been having a noticeable 27 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:59.079 impact on the collective in my perspective, and experiences like yours, 28 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:05.280 I believe helping not only other experiencers abductees, but anyone 29 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:09.759 drawn to the information being presented. It helps everyone to 30 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:14.159 understand possibly what could be going on based on your 31 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:19.400 own experiences. I believe it's the experiences of the person 32 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:25.560 that has firsthand encounters that are some of the most 33 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:28.840 important evidence we could have right now. Now, I know 34 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:33.919 your experiences started at a young age. Let's start at 35 00:02:33.919 --> 00:02:36.479 the beginning. Tell us first a little bit about yourself 36 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:41.319 and then how everything started with your experiences. 37 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:45.039 Well, I'm a new time I'm a first time author. 38 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:49.479 Just wrote my own book which is detailing you know, 39 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:54.680 the events of my childhood, which is from my young 40 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:59.400 age up until the age of seventeen from the United 41 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:04.879 Kingdom and the East end of London. And you know, 42 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:06.719 I've come here today to discuss this. 43 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:11.759 So let's start where it all started for you. How 44 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:14.719 old were you when everything started and what were the 45 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:15.960 events that unfolded. 46 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:26.159 Well, I was born premature, and I was in hospital 47 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:30.039 apparently for a long time, and when I did come 48 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:33.080 back to what would be my childhood home, so I 49 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:36.199 actually was. I was actually raised in a strict Irish 50 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:41.719 Roman Catholic environment and my dad at the time, he 51 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:44.479 was a caretaker so of a school, you know, the 52 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:50.400 junior Irish sorry, a Catholic school, and so we lived 53 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:55.000 inside the school grounds. And so my book is basically 54 00:03:55.479 --> 00:04:01.159 focused primarily on the events that were that I experienced 55 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:08.000 inside this house and within the school grounds. So yeah, 56 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:12.280 I mean, when when I come back from at my 57 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:15.520 stay in the hospital, should we say the house started 58 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:20.399 to experience a lot of paranormal activity, so you know 59 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:23.680 that which previously, so I'm told by my parents at 60 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:26.600 the time, had not occurred. You know, it could be 61 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:30.319 just a coincidence, I guess, but and so the house 62 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:33.759 started to experience you know, cold spots normally in the 63 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:38.199 corners of the doors, objects would be moving around, they 64 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:43.920 would vanish and then reappear in a different place. My mom. 65 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:46.040 When my mum, when she was in the house alone, 66 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:50.920 would experience you know, disembodied voices calling her or speaking 67 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:54.040 to her. Often hear her name being called out, and 68 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:57.160 when she's alone, she could feel a presence often standing 69 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:01.720 behind her. You know, sometimes it a little bit quite sinister, 70 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:03.360 you know that she would run out of the room 71 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:07.199 and you know, often be telling my dad basically that 72 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:12.120 something like this had happened. There was often you know, 73 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:18.160 strange banging would occur at night quite a lot on 74 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:20.120 the walls. And as I described it in my book 75 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:23.560 that the walls are quite solid, so you know, normally 76 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:25.720 when you bang a solid wall, you just get a 77 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:30.000 thud sound. When this was happening that night, it was 78 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:33.560 almost like echoing. It's almost like you know, stereo surround 79 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:38.279 on the walls, so it's echoing out in an unusual way. 80 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:42.040 And when my dad used to go downstairs to investigate, 81 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:46.920 obviously he looked around looking, I guess for an intruder, 82 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:50.160 and there was never no one there. And this was 83 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:52.759 happening quite a lot, you know, almost every night she 84 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:55.160 would have to get up and go down to investigate. 85 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:58.519 And nothing was there. I mean, it did start to 86 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:02.319 turn more sinister. You know. One of my brothers, my 87 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:06.439 eldest brother, Frank, he was coming up. He was laying 88 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:11.800 in bed and we had a large oak, brown wooden 89 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.759 wardrobe and this was pushed on top of him when 90 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:17.079 he was laying in bed, and he wasn't hurt, he 91 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:20.800 was just you know, shocked. And then another time I 92 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:23.199 have a brother, Kevin, he was walking up the stairs 93 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:26.120 and he was he felt something pushed past him and 94 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:29.759 pushed him down the stairs. And again he wasn't hurt, 95 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:32.959 he was just again, you know, shocked. So it was 96 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:35.879 only after you know, quite a few of these type 97 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:39.360 of events that my parents then sought, you know, the 98 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:43.839 advice of priests. So, you know, because the school was 99 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:46.480 a Catholic school and we had a church up the 100 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:49.560 road with a you know, a presbytery and a convent 101 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:53.240 where the nuns and the priests would live. And my 102 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:55.399 dad had been friends with quite a lot of priests, 103 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:59.639 and so he got the help of one of the priests, 104 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:02.600 para priests, and they come in and so no, they 105 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:04.399 blessed their house. They went through the rooms, you know, 106 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:09.160 the usual rituals that they do to you know, to 107 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:12.600 smudge the type of you know, the rooms and the 108 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:14.879 events then sort of settled down for a little while. 109 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:21.079 So these were the first type of activities. But then 110 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:24.160 my parents then went on to describe a little while 111 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:28.040 after that that, you know, where my cot was in 112 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:31.759 one of the bedrooms. They then described that they would 113 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:36.079 see being standing looking down in my cot, you know, 114 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:38.759 and these beings, when you know, they were asked what 115 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:42.240 they looked like, they were looking like the classical gray 116 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:44.839 that we now know to be grays in the you know, 117 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:51.040 in euthology and often associated with you know, abductions. And 118 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:55.439 these had been just standing looking over my cot, looking down, 119 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:58.519 and you know, my mom and dad had seeing these 120 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:01.839 and when the great had actually see them looking they 121 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:07.079 were vanished. So there was the and another time my 122 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:10.199 dad was telling me, you know, he was describing it 123 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:13.680 as balls of lights floating around or moving through the 124 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.800 walls around where my cot was. I mean, he didn't 125 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:19.519 cam orbs at the time, but you know, that's what 126 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:23.360 he described them as, blue lights moving, you know, like 127 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:26.680 a ball of light moving through the walls or around 128 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:29.240 where my cop was. But the activity seemed to be 129 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:33.120 a lot of the time focused around me. I mean 130 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:36.919 I did have I mean I got my two older 131 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:40.679 brother older brothers, Francis Kevin and Sean News two years 132 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:43.320 older than me. But it was Shorn that I had. 133 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:46.960 I did have some experiences with as well as a child. 134 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:49.799 So we did share a few things together, me and 135 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:53.559 Shawn as we were, you know, as we were growing up. 136 00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:00.039 So and I don't think they spoke about it that 137 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:02.799 much my parents because it was, you know, a close 138 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:07.039 knit Irish community and it was very religious and so 139 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:10.159 you know, they didn't want, I guess to be the 140 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:14.200 talk of the community, which is understandable. 141 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:20.440 So how did these experiences progress. I know that they 142 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:24.679 were lasted quite a few years, and you had encounters 143 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:28.399 with different beings and eventually you had some different understandings 144 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:31.200 about what was going on. So tell us a little 145 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:32.720 bit about how things progressed. 146 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:41.080 Yeah, I mean I started to have, you know, what 147 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:45.279 would be I guess, invisible friends. You know. I remember 148 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:49.399 a time when I was up in my bedroom and 149 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:52.159 you know, I could hear my mum coming up the 150 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:55.799 staircase and the door was closed, the bedroom door was closed. 151 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:58.320 I've been I was actually talking to two of my 152 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:03.919 friends whom were, you know, a male and a female. 153 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:06.480 And my mom come up and I could hear a 154 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:09.240 standing out side of the door listening. I could hear 155 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:13.679 her feet, you know, you know, as they changed as 156 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:15.919 she stepped on one or to the other, you know, 157 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:19.720 the floorboards with the creek. And then you know, she 158 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:23.639 opened the door, and I turned away from my two 159 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:27.639 friends to look towards my mom. And my mom was looking, 160 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:29.559 you know, a little bit puzzled and said to me, 161 00:10:29.639 --> 00:10:32.559 you know who you look at, who you're talking to. 162 00:10:32.279 --> 00:10:35.919 I turned back to my friends to say, my two friends, 163 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:38.519 you know, but when I look back, they wasn't there. 164 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:41.960 And you know, being a child, I wasn't any under 165 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.360 I didn't understand because you know, the windows were closed. 166 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:46.279 I was trying to figure out where they had gone. 167 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:48.919 There was no place where they were gone, you know. 168 00:10:49.399 --> 00:10:51.399 And then you know, I turned back to my mom, 169 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:53.639 and you know, she looked at me, and then she 170 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:55.679 she come into the room and knelt down beside me 171 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:58.240 and just said, you know, I'm sure that they'll be back. 172 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:02.120 You know, she's thinking that they were you know, invisible friends. 173 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:05.960 But she went off downstairs to do whatever she was 174 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:09.240 doing and left me to be and by myself. And 175 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.000 you know what I didn't tell my parents. And I 176 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:16.639 used to see these a lot, sometimes the man and 177 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:19.679 the woman together, sometimes one of them on their own, 178 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:22.799 or sometimes another a different one altogether, but they often 179 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:25.559 looked the same. But what I didn't tell my parents 180 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:28.279 was is that they thought these were children. They wasn't children. 181 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:31.120 They were adults. They were different to the adults around me, 182 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:33.679 you know. They were what would be I guess now 183 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:38.600 to be the classic Nordic types in you know, classical eufology, 184 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:41.639 So the long blonde hair, you know, the blue eyes, 185 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:46.399 I cheekbones, very sort of athletic looking, but very taller, 186 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:49.960 taller than the adults I was are used to. But 187 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:51.519 when they used to talk to me, you know, they 188 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:54.919 used to Again, you didn't talk through the mind, so 189 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:58.639 I would hear the thoughts in my head, you know. 190 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.279 But being a child, you don't question that to you 191 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:06.039 so and I mean there was another time when I 192 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:09.200 was downstairs my mom was I remember my mom in 193 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.960 the kitchen preparing some lunch, and I was in the 194 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:16.120 next room and I was actually playing with some of 195 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.440 the match box cars. I don't know if you remember them. 196 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:21.919 The toy cars on the carpet, and then I had 197 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:26.279 this feeling, overwhelming feeling that I should go upstairs to 198 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:28.919 one of the bedrooms. And it was like it was 199 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:31.639 it was it's like a voice in my head, a feeling. 200 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:34.159 That's why I can describe it. And you know, I 201 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:37.080 just ignored it, really and then but it kept on 202 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.720 getting It's almost like getting louder or more stronger, you know, 203 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:45.240 pushing me to obey it. Really, it was like a command, 204 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:48.279 I guess. And so then I put my cars down. 205 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:51.120 My mom didn't notice me, I guess, you know, move off. 206 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:56.360 And I remember going upstairs to the bedroom and remember 207 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:58.879 when I got there, I just had a feeling at 208 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:01.559 the time that once I was there, I had to 209 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.600 stay there because somebody was coming. 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I don't remember what that information was, 257 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:15.600 but I do know it felt like an energetic connection 258 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:18.399 or link had been made between my mind and ears, 259 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:21.480 and he was either I was giving him something, which 260 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:23.879 I don't know what that was, or he was or 261 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:27.399 he was given me something, you know. But but I 262 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:30.679 do remember though that when I come out of this 263 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:33.399 altered state of consciousness, you know, it's almost like you 264 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:38.879 were in a way, like drugged, I guess, and it 265 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:43.679 felt then I felt I was actually felt afraid he 266 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:46.960 had gone in this being had gone, but I felt 267 00:16:47.039 --> 00:16:49.559 I felt terror, you know, I don't know why. I 268 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:52.200 just felt terror, and I needed to get out of 269 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:54.879 that room and get away. And you know, something didn't 270 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:57.440 feel right to me, and I remember running down the 271 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.279 stairs almost you know, tripping over on myself, and I 272 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:02.639 run back to my mum when I was saying to her, Mom, Mom, 273 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:06.640 you know something had happened, and you know she, you know, 274 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:08.480 she was asking me what it was, and she was 275 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:11.319 trying to, you know, reassure me. And I just went 276 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:14.160 back to playing them back to my toy cars, and 277 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:16.799 I just forgot all about it, I did. You know, 278 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:19.519 I did see these beings though, quite a lot, but 279 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:22.319 it was always me that see them, and I was 280 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:25.200 always on my own. You know, and sometimes it was 281 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:27.400 just in different parts of the house. You know. I 282 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:29.720 could be wandering around and I'd see one of them, 283 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:32.960 and then they would vanish, you know, but it was 284 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:35.519 only around you know. There was a time when I 285 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:38.359 did see them, but there was another time when they 286 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:42.839 suddenly vanished from my life. And you know, I've not 287 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:46.920 seen them since, but I felt you know, but I mean, 288 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:50.079 I've always been a little bit confused about, you know, 289 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:54.200 if they were benevolent or not, or if in some 290 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:57.319 ways they were there to groom me before what was 291 00:17:57.359 --> 00:18:00.200 to come. You know. You know, I spoke to some 292 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:02.880 other people in the past, you know, that had these 293 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:06.200 type of experiences, and again they had those type of 294 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:10.200 feelings where they wasn't sure if the beings that they 295 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:12.920 were dealing with were good or if they were actually 296 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:17.480 creating a set of circumstances that would lead on to 297 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:20.960 the next level of contacts, which would then for me, 298 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:24.400 be more sinister and nefarious. 299 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:29.680 At what age were the encounters you were just speaking of. 300 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:35.599 These were four years old years old, Okay. 301 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:40.920 At what age did you really start to have a 302 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:44.799 better understanding or even a better memory of some of 303 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:46.920 these events? 304 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:51.359 Well, I started to investigate really the you know, the 305 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:55.279 circumstances surrounding them into the nineteen nineties. Really, it was 306 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:59.000 a long time before I actually started to really think, well, 307 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:03.240 you know, something's going on here. And you know, back then, 308 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:05.799 we you know, I didn't at that time when I 309 00:19:05.839 --> 00:19:08.160 grew up, we didn't have internet or anything. So the 310 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:12.079 only you know, the only when I was looking into things, 311 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:14.920 it was at a local library really, and the books 312 00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:16.559 that we had there, you know, there wasn't there was 313 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:18.759 hardly anything to do with a baron m or let 314 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:24.319 alone UFO books and UFOs or alien activity, you know. 315 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:27.519 And also back then, you know, when I was growing up, 316 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:32.240 and and it was quite you know, strict a lot 317 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:35.160 of the time, you know, I was either in the 318 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:39.200 church doing stuff with the church, or I was at 319 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:42.559 the school. You know, we it was just you know, 320 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:46.480 doing that type of stuff. So I never you know, 321 00:19:46.559 --> 00:19:48.960 me and Sean when we when we were you know, 322 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:53.559 watching TV, we wasn't able to watch anything basically that 323 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:57.279 would you know, influence us or anything like that. You know, 324 00:19:57.359 --> 00:19:59.759 we watched TV with our parents. You know, we often 325 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:04.720 that said has the remote control for our parents, so 326 00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:07.359 you know, and when we you know, some people say, 327 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.480 you know, you know, you would probably be looking seeing 328 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:14.079 things like Jesus or the Virgin Mary, you know, because 329 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:16.440 that's what we had when we were growing up. It 330 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:19.079 was very it was a very strict religious you know. 331 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:21.480 I mean most of the time, you know, I was 332 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:24.559 around priests and nuns most of the time, you know, 333 00:20:24.680 --> 00:20:31.599 and doing biblical classes. So there was nothing there that 334 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:37.240 could be of an influence to us. So, you know, So. 335 00:20:39.079 --> 00:20:44.720 Moving forward, how did the experiences progress as you got older? 336 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:48.680 Did you ever have encounters with different types of beings 337 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:53.279 that you could remember, or any experiences where you were 338 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:55.599 taken from a location. 339 00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:02.720 Yeah, I mean I had, I mean an encounter that 340 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:07.079 we me and Sean had together. We were in the 341 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:11.599 it was the summer holidays. It was the school holidays, 342 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:15.640 you know, for six weeks holiday. My dad at the 343 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:20.480 time of being in the school looking working with the 344 00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:25.279 clingers and doing deliveries. But when Dad come back to 345 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:27.039 the house to have a back between me and Sean 346 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:29.680 decided to go over to the school. It was empty, 347 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:32.240 there was no one else there, and we went in 348 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:34.759 to play a game of hide and seek, and I 349 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:38.240 remember being in the which would be the school corridors 350 00:21:39.160 --> 00:21:42.720 where the indoors and outdoors boys and girls toilets were. 351 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:45.319 And I went off to hide, and Seng was counting 352 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.799 to ten, but somewhere in between that I could hear 353 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.519 Sean counting. But then suddenly it went quiet. You know. 354 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:54.720 At first, I was thinking to myself, you know, he's 355 00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:57.720 he wants me to come out so he can discover 356 00:21:57.759 --> 00:22:02.359 where I'm hiding, you know, to trick me. But because 357 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:05.680 I couldn't hear him still counting, after a while, I 358 00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:07.799 just went out. I come out from where I was 359 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:10.720 hiding to investigate, and I see him standing where it 360 00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:14.079 would be It's basically where the school indoor library was 361 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:19.039 and the secretary's office. And he was standing there, and 362 00:22:19.559 --> 00:22:23.519 in front of us would be two likes glass wire 363 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:26.960 doors swing doors, so there was two of these and 364 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:29.519 another set of two that would lead into what would 365 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:33.920 be the school hall or gymnasium. And he was pointing 366 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:37.279 at something, you know, through the glass doors. At first, 367 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:39.960 I couldn't see what it was, and so I moved 368 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:43.920 closer to his position, and then I looked to where 369 00:22:43.960 --> 00:22:47.480 his finger was pointing, and he was saying, what is that? 370 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:51.599 What is it? But when I looked there was this 371 00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:57.359 peculiar creature standing literally next to what would be the 372 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:01.160 school piano, and he's just staring back at us. But 373 00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:04.119 you know, when I look now, and as it's described 374 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:08.160 in my book, the only closes, the only close you know, 375 00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:12.839 some similar rate, a similar creature that I can find 376 00:23:13.119 --> 00:23:15.920 that looks like this would be from the tour being 377 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:18.559 coming out of the under craft, the big craft in 378 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:21.799 the closing counters of the third kind. But at that 379 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:24.519 time when we had this encounter, the closing Counters wasn't 380 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:29.160 being It wasn't created, you know, or it wasn't you know, 381 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:33.640 in the UK. So so this is the only thing 382 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:35.720 I can describe it really as. And it was just 383 00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:39.000 standing there, you know, with his tall head, he had 384 00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:43.480 big eyes, had the long arms which was past its knees, 385 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:47.279 and we again we had we both of us, we 386 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:51.400 entered into an altered state of consciousness. It felt like 387 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:55.039 we were you know, chained to the spots. We couldn't move, 388 00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:58.480 but we were just staring at this creature, this strange 389 00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:02.359 looking creature. But then after a while, and you know, 390 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.640 it seemed to be a time when we were you know, 391 00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:09.119 time was missing. When we come back out of this, 392 00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:13.680 you know. Again, there was this feeling of terror, feeling 393 00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:17.519 that something had happened, something wasn't quite right, and we 394 00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:19.759 needed to get away, you know, And so we both 395 00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:23.680 were running away and I remember, you know me, I 396 00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:27.799 remember my heart thumping. I was really afraid, and I 397 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:30.599 was running and running, and we run back through the 398 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:34.000 school doors where we originally came in from, and we 399 00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:35.960 were going to run the home to tell our parents. 400 00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:38.319 But at the time my dad was coming back into 401 00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:42.079 the school. He was coming upstairs and he asked, you know, 402 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:44.079 what was the matter. And Sean, it was Sean that 403 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:47.559 first said that there's somebody in the school hall, and 404 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:50.279 you know, he said that it's not human. In my 405 00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:53.200 I remember our dad looking our faces, you know, trying 406 00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:55.640 to see if we were trying to you know, whind 407 00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:57.200 your heart. Well, I guess or I have a joke 408 00:24:57.279 --> 00:24:59.720 with him, but he could see, you know, we were afraid, 409 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.000 and he just said to us, you know, to wait there, 410 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:05.599 and he would look. Obviously he's not looking for what 411 00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:08.559 we said it was. He's looking for an intruder, a 412 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:11.960 human intruder. So he's gone off to look. He's told 413 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:13.759 us to wait there, and after a little while he 414 00:25:13.839 --> 00:25:16.799 come back and he just said, there's nobody there. He 415 00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:20.720 searched or around. There's no broken windows, forced the windows, 416 00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:24.480 force doors, everything's locked. And so, you know, he just 417 00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:27.799 told us, though he didn't really sort of question us 418 00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:30.240 in that and say, oh, it's nothing. He just told 419 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:32.400 us to go back to the house or stay close 420 00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:33.000 to the house. 421 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:34.200 You know. 422 00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:40.359 But my parents were they were quite, you know, they 423 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:44.920 got used to us saying things, particularly me, I was 424 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:49.680 always saying that I'd seen something, something had happened. And 425 00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:53.559 again it was quite. Their response was quite, you know, quite. 426 00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.680 It's not a response you would think you would get. 427 00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:01.039 You know, they wasn't saying, you know, you just your imagination. 428 00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:04.039 It was almost like they knew something that wasn't saying 429 00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:07.279 it really, I mean. And then a little while after 430 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:12.039 that that encounter there me and Sean had I was 431 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:15.799 in my parents. It was one night, one winter night. 432 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:19.359 My parents were they were going to you know, after 433 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:22.400 we had something to eat, they were going outside to 434 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:26.000 the garage which was just adjacent to where the kitchen 435 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:28.200 would be, and they were going to lay some new 436 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:33.079 tiles down because the other ones were coming loose. And 437 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:34.960 my mom and dad went out there, and Sean went 438 00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:37.960 with them, my older two but my Frances and Kevin 439 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:39.839 were a lot older than me and Sean, so they 440 00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:44.200 had already you know, at work now and gone out 441 00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:47.559 to do whatever they were doing. So there was nobody 442 00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:50.440 on the house. But I asked if I could remain 443 00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:53.960 in the house, and and my mom had some I 444 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:56.640 remember my mom had some dishes to do, and I 445 00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:58.279 said to her I would do them for her, you know. 446 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:01.559 And I remember my dad telling me to lock the door, 447 00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:03.920 you know, the kitchen door. So I locked the door 448 00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:07.559 like he said. And I remember, because I was small still, 449 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:10.319 I wasn't able to reach the taps. So I remember 450 00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:13.039 getting a chair and turning it around and kneeling on 451 00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:15.920 it to put some water in the sink to put 452 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:20.160 the cups and saucers in, you know, or plates and cutlery, 453 00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:26.039 and I remember washing up. But then in the room opposite, 454 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:29.000 I remember seeing something from you know, the side of the 455 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.279 riveral vision to the side of my eye and saw 456 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:35.079 it the side of my eyes, and I could see 457 00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:38.480 a movement there and then I sort of looked like 458 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:43.880 that and I could see this strange man standing there 459 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:46.960 just staring at me. And you know, I didn't know 460 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:49.960 who it was at the time, you know, because I 461 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:52.519 know there was nobody in the house. The door was locked, 462 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:55.519 like Dad told me to lock it. Everyone I was out, 463 00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:58.920 and I just but the strange thing about him. He 464 00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:03.200 was dressed completely yeah there, you know, and he had 465 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:05.759 a black hat on, but the most sinister part of 466 00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:10.599 him was his dark glasses. So he was just standing there, 467 00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:13.440 you know, looking at me, and I was like frozen 468 00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:15.640 to the spot because I didn't know who it was, 469 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.519 and I knew it wasn't a ghost because it looked 470 00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:23.640 he looked solid, you know, And then I looked away 471 00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:27.480 for a moment. But when I look back, you know, 472 00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:31.440 I looked across again and he had gone. So he 473 00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:34.279 either vanished, I was thinking he'd ever vanished, or he 474 00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:37.079 walked off into the next room, which would be the 475 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:40.119 you know, the hallway which will lead to the staircase 476 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:44.440 going upstairs, or toilet downstairs, toilet, or there was another 477 00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:48.240 room there. But at the time, you know, for a moment, 478 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:51.920 I was frozen to the spot, not through paralysis, I 479 00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:57.160 was just afraid because and then eventually I you know, 480 00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:00.000 I was able to move, and I moved quickly towards 481 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:02.759 the kitchen door to the key to unlock it, and 482 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:05.200 my hands were shaking, and at the same time I 483 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.240 was looking over my shoulder to see where he was 484 00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:12.880 in case he was going to hurt me. But I 485 00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:16.920 did feel at the time that he wanted to hurt 486 00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:21.559 me in some way. There was a feeling that he 487 00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:25.119 wanted to do me harm in some way. And then 488 00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.640 eventually I did and manage to open the door, and 489 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:31.039 they run out, and I banged on the garage door, 490 00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:34.319 you know. And then after a few moments the door 491 00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:36.759 opened up and my dad come from underneath it, and 492 00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:39.400 again I was telling him that Dad was somebody in 493 00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.000 the house, to somebody in the house, you know. And 494 00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:44.359 then my dad told me to wait there with my 495 00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.200 mum and brother. And as he was going back in 496 00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:51.880 the house, I remember picking maybe something up, like an object, 497 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:56.400 maybe a piece of wood or metal to confront anyone 498 00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.279 in the house. But then I remember my brother Francis 499 00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:03.119 coming back early from wherever he'd been, and I remember 500 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:05.119 Dad saying to him that you know, there's somebody in 501 00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:08.039 the house and to follow him. So anyway, he was 502 00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:10.000 an house for a little while, and then they come 503 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:13.480 out and they just said, there's nobody there. Again, you know, 504 00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:17.680 there's no doors being opened. The chain was on the 505 00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:22.039 on the front door, the bolts on windows were closed, 506 00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.000 so you know, and then my dad told me to 507 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:28.440 go back in the house, and I went in with 508 00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:32.480 my mum and Sean, and then Dad obviously locked up 509 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:36.079 the garage. And I don't know what become of that, 510 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.559 but later on my brothers told me it was discussed 511 00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:42.640 a lot between you know, my mum and Dad used 512 00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:46.200 to talk to it about it and discuss it with 513 00:30:46.319 --> 00:30:49.119 close friends, but never really with me. 514 00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:51.759 And sure there would be discussing your experiences. 515 00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:58.240 Yeah, so, but back then, you know, I didn't know 516 00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:01.960 the name for you know, the grades or or gets 517 00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:05.160 the Nordics, and certainly not for you know, the MB 518 00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:09.880 and that's definitely what that this particular individual looked like, 519 00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:12.920 you know, I did. I did later on. I have 520 00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:18.680 other associations with or encounters with these type of beings mbs, 521 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.680 and some of them were obviously some of them were 522 00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:26.319 also outside of the body encounters with these particular beings, 523 00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:29.680 so you know, I did learn a little bit more 524 00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:31.200 about them as time went on. 525 00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:33.279 Could you tell us a little bit about some of those. 526 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:42.079 Yeah, well, I've always been able to leave my body. 527 00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.279 I've been able to do this at a very young age. 528 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:49.240 So my consciousness is able to travel outside of my body. 529 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.559 Normally I can go you know, I traveled just in 530 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.200 the immediate environment. In the beginning. I started to do 531 00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:59.680 that in the what would be the school grounds. So 532 00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:03.400 in one of these particular encounters in the you know, 533 00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:07.119 it's so it's not an astral projection. It's different. Yeah, 534 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.200 if you you know, the astral projections is when you 535 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:13.720 go into the fourth dimension. So this is just you know, 536 00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:16.680 like stepping outside your body and you're in the room here. 537 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:20.559 So and I used to basically move around the school 538 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:25.200 grounds when I learned how to do it, and so 539 00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:29.720 it's in real time, basically outside. But I did have 540 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:33.759 encounters with these particular being sometimes outside of the body 541 00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:38.599 in the area of the school grounds. So I encountered them. 542 00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:42.400 And I did have times when I I hadn't encountered 543 00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:44.119 with them where there was a light in the sky 544 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:49.839 in front of me. And remember these two m ibs, 545 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.920 I guess standing in front of me, and they seem 546 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:55.920 to be like threatening me, like telling me not to 547 00:32:56.000 --> 00:33:00.240 talk about this type of stuff to anyone and get 548 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:03.119 what I see, you know, so and I remember just 549 00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:08.240 these very small discussions with these particular beings and then 550 00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:11.720 returning back to my body. So these things that I've 551 00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.599 recalled over the years, you know, in books that have 552 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.440 wrote down in just in case as you go further on, 553 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:21.240 you know, you has some sort of link, you can 554 00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:24.160 join the link together. You know, it's better to record 555 00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:27.480 everything really and never chuck anything away because you never 556 00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:28.759 know when you make that link. 557 00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:31.960 You have a couple of other experiences that I definitely 558 00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:35.480 want to get to here in your talking points. One 559 00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.240 that says something about stretcher. 560 00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:42.799 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the title of one of the 561 00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:47.000 chapters in our book. It discusses it's an encounter basically 562 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:50.039 an experience that I had when it was in the 563 00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.680 middle of the night. So I was asleep and then 564 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.640 something woke me up. So you know, in the in 565 00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:58.000 I was when we were children, Manshuret, we used to 566 00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:00.839 sleep in the same bed, in the big bed, and 567 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:05.240 I remember being in the bed being asleep, but something 568 00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:07.680 woke me up in the middle of the night. My 569 00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:14.440 parents bedroom was literally next door, and I remember looking 570 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:17.320 down the end of the bed at the you know, 571 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:20.440 the rear of the bed, and I remember seeing these 572 00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:23.159 three creatures, which now you know, I can identify as 573 00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:26.519 being Grace. So there's three of these grays standing at 574 00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:28.000 the end of the bed, and they were just like 575 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:32.320 looking at me, you know. And often when I had 576 00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:35.239 these encounters, and you know, when I tried to wake 577 00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:38.079 Sure up, he would never wake up. He would never 578 00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:41.760 you know, I was pushing him and poking him, and 579 00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:45.079 it's almost like he was, you know, put to sleep. 580 00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:49.760 And I remember these these three beings. Two of these 581 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.960 beings moved away from the rear of the bed and 582 00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:56.280 they moved to my side of the bed, and I 583 00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.920 remember being floated up from the bed and I was 584 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:03.199 actually placed inside what would be like a black stretcher, 585 00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:06.480 just a normal black stretcher, and I was placed down 586 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:11.199 in this stretcher and I remember, and what I find 587 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:13.719 unusual is that I didn't shout out. I didn't call 588 00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.679 out when you think, you know, I wasn't able to 589 00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:19.360 move my body. I was only able to move my eyes. 590 00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:21.199 And it was only later on that I realized that 591 00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:24.920 these particular beings, they can create a paralysis in you, 592 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:28.320 but they can't stop your eyes from moving, so, you know. 593 00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:32.039 And often what I found is is they often at 594 00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:34.880 first they stay out of you, from you. I don't 595 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:38.519 know if that's create terror in you, but they don't 596 00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:41.960 often move in your in your vision, you know, where 597 00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:44.639 you can see them. There's always off to the side 598 00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:48.639 somewhere until they want to be seeing. But in this 599 00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:52.000 particular case, I remember the stretcher being lifted up or 600 00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:56.199 floating up. It didn't need any any assistance, and two 601 00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:58.440 of the beings were behind it and it was moving 602 00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:02.599 over the bed. She went through the glass a bedroom window, 603 00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:05.440 without breaking and I went through it with it, you know. 604 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:10.800 And I don't think in this particular case, this one 605 00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:14.000 was an out of body experience. I do believe it 606 00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:16.920 was a physical and I did actually go through that glass, 607 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:19.960 you know, And you know at the time that's you know, 608 00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:24.000 it's quite extraordinary. But when we are where we are now, 609 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:27.440 you know, when you understand science, even if it's at 610 00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:32.079 an advanced level, and we might not necessarily be there yet, 611 00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:35.239 you know, it's obviously a science of some sort that 612 00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:38.719 we're just catching up with. So it's not really something magical, 613 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:41.079 is it, or it's just something at the time we 614 00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:47.760 didn't understand. So I remember going through the glass and 615 00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:50.519 just outside the window there's like a roof acting like 616 00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:54.480 a balcony, and it's also in the room below is 617 00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:58.280 where another encounter that I'll talk about took place, which 618 00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:03.159 was more sinister. And I remember being at the first 619 00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:07.679 just I guessed, in this stretcher, and the stretcher was 620 00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:12.239 laid down basically on this roof, and I remember seeing 621 00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:16.199 a light above us in the sky, just over the rooftops, 622 00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:18.840 you know. And this was in the middle of the night, 623 00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.760 and you know, there's a although there was no people around, 624 00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:26.360 they must, you know. I wonder sometimes if anyone else 625 00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:30.760 did see this strange sight, or if it was you know, 626 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:35.840 in some way made invisible. But I remember then floating 627 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.559 up in this stretcher with these three grays is one 628 00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:39.920 in the front of it and two at the back, 629 00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.000 just floating up towards this light. But I remember, you know, 630 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:47.920 on the stretcher, I could see basically us moving up 631 00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:50.480 towards this light. I couldn't see what the light was, 632 00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.920 but there was something bright just above us, above the rooftops. 633 00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:57.880 And I remember then seeing over the you know, I 634 00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:02.280 could see the I could see the schoolhouse and the 635 00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:05.480 roof of the schoolhouse, and when I looked across, I 636 00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:08.480 could see other buildings, you know, that were obviously there, 637 00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:11.960 and so, you know, but then after that, I don't 638 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:15.079 remember anything. And then what I do remember is being 639 00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.159 back in my bed. But when I was back in 640 00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:21.199 my bed, I remember blood on the pillowcase, you know. 641 00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:24.000 And it was only after these type of events that 642 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:27.000 I started to have then lots of nose bleeds, and 643 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.639 when those were really sensitive, it was bleeded easily, and 644 00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:34.639 I would start to get obviously sinus infections as well, 645 00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:36.400 you know, I started to have a lot of these. 646 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:42.519 I remember also. You know, another thing that's quite strange 647 00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:45.239 is that you often find with a lot of abductees 648 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:48.000 is that when they were children, they would suffer from 649 00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:52.159 lots of types, lots of different types of illnesses, and 650 00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:54.960 you know, and I was exactly the same. I had 651 00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:58.159 lots of stuff wrong with me as a child. You know. 652 00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:01.559 I even had arlette fever, you know, and I actually 653 00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:05.800 went blind with it. And I've spoken to a few 654 00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:08.159 other abductees and they had scarlet fever as well. They 655 00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:10.639 didn't go blind with it, but they did have eye fever. 656 00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:15.280 You know, there seems to be some type of similarities 657 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:17.960 with illnesses with abductees as well. 658 00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:25.400 I found now eventually you had experiences with not only 659 00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:28.119 these creatures, but military personnel. 660 00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:33.880 Is that right, I did have an encounter. Well, you 661 00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:37.679 know what I find is what I find strange as well, 662 00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:41.760 is I do question the experience I had with the 663 00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:45.639 graves and the stretcher because it's not normally their methodology 664 00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:49.400 to use these type of objects, because why would they 665 00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.280 They can float. It seems more of a man made 666 00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:56.440 thing to me. So I'm wondering if this was a 667 00:39:56.519 --> 00:40:01.000 military experience where the military we were, you know, in 668 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:05.159 a way creating the screen memories off there have been grays, 669 00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:07.840 you know, I mean people might question, you know, why 670 00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:11.000 would they do that? But you know, my life did 671 00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:13.920 come more into more of the military side of it 672 00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:16.320 as I you know, as I go through my life, 673 00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:19.320 there's a lot more, you know, I am actually involved 674 00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:23.280 with that side of it more, and you know, which 675 00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:27.119 is a lot stranger than the having these encounters with 676 00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:27.599 the grays. 677 00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:32.239 Really, So tell us a little bit about how you 678 00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:34.960 found out about the military side of this. 679 00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:40.480 Well, I've had you know, I've got a lot of 680 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:44.960 experiences which are basically based around the you know, these 681 00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:49.760 type of activities with military personnel. And I've discovered a 682 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:53.719 lot more about myself now, you know, and you know, 683 00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:56.320 different types of projects that I've been involved with with 684 00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:59.480 the military, even as a child. You know, where you're 685 00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:03.039 brought in as a my lab so a military of duty. 686 00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:06.000 Do you have family that was involved with the military, 687 00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:07.320 friends anything? 688 00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:12.960 I mean, yeah, I mean my dad. My dad was 689 00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:16.880 on outer appearances, he was a normal guy, but there 690 00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:20.159 was a lot of strange things that took place, you know, 691 00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:24.320 in his life. I mean, my dad was a Grand 692 00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:30.320 Knights templar, and so my dad when I was growing up, 693 00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:34.119 I often explained it some podcasts and two people. When 694 00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:35.920 I was growing up, the most of the adults that 695 00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:38.840 I did come into contact with, there were high ranking 696 00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:41.679 members of the church. My dad, I had friends in 697 00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.719 a Vatican in Rome. He had lots of cardinal friends. 698 00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:50.280 He knew, he knew a lot of the time. We 699 00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:53.440 had high rank in Free Masons in the police that 700 00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:57.000 would come into my house as a child. These were 701 00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:02.679 high level free Masons and and the rest were military personnel. 702 00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:05.400 I mean, my dad, I grew up in the nineteen seventies. 703 00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:10.199 My dad was an engineer, a flight engineer in the 704 00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:14.239 Royal Air Force during the war. My mum built Lancaster 705 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:19.119 bombers and the munitions factories during the war, and you know, 706 00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:21.840 my dad obviously did because of that time. He had 707 00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:25.519 friends who had been served in the military in different 708 00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:30.119 different places. You know, I learned recently that my uncle 709 00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:34.760 may have been part of the original sas the twenty 710 00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:38.119 two Special Air Service served in Africa during World War Two. 711 00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:41.039 But you know, that's something I'm looking into at the moment. 712 00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.480 So there are connections. You know, my uncles were in 713 00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:49.519 the you know, in the Navy, the connections with that 714 00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:54.280 type of thing. And my older brother, my oldest brother, Frank, 715 00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:56.320 he was telling me, you know, he knows a lot 716 00:42:56.360 --> 00:42:59.320 more about my parents than what I do, and there's 717 00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:04.400 quite a lot of secret secrecy in my family, and 718 00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:08.079 you know, he says to me that Dad, there was 719 00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:10.199 a lot more to Dad that he did in the 720 00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:13.480 war than was actually told, you know, that he was 721 00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.480 in He said he was in the flight of flight 722 00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:17.159 engineer in the Royal Let Force, but he said he 723 00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:21.920 was dealing with other types of activities in the war. 724 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.880 But that was never spoken about, and and Frank said, 725 00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:28.559 you know, even you know Francis, he would never tell 726 00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:30.800 me really what they were, but he just said there 727 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:32.239 was a lot more. There's a lot more to Dad 728 00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:34.599 than meets the eye, you know. I remember though, when 729 00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:37.039 my dad did pass, you know, when he died when 730 00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:42.039 I was fifteen years old from a massive heart attack. 731 00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:44.079 But I do remember at his funeral. You know, this 732 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:47.800 funeral was unusual as well. It was held by six priests, 733 00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:53.239 and the church was a really large church, and it 734 00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:57.960 had you know balca galleries that were always empty, but 735 00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:00.519 at his funeral is all of the gallery were full 736 00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:03.440 up and the whole of the church was full up. 737 00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:08.599 And outside which led onto a really busy road, there 738 00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:11.239 was lots of people outside, and there was even police 739 00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:15.079 there because there were so many people. And I remember 740 00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.480 leaning into my mum and I said, Mom, Mom, I said, 741 00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:20.159 do all these people and she said, I don't know, 742 00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.360 you know, And so there was loads of people there, 743 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.880 you know that we didn't, you know, loads of people. 744 00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:29.519 And then at the end of the funeral, some of 745 00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:32.639 the one of the priests approached my mom and he said, 746 00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:35.760 in all the time he's done funerals, he'd never seen 747 00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:40.079 a funeral, so with so many people in it, you know, 748 00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:42.559 and so that was quite unusual. There was a lot 749 00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.519 of people there that were you know, they looked military, 750 00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:48.599 and they looked like they could be Freemasons, so you know, 751 00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:52.440 so there was a lot of there was a lot 752 00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:55.320 of activity around my dad that just didn't make sense, 753 00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:58.400 I guess, you know, but there is, you know, there 754 00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:01.440 is a twist on all this that I will discuss later. 755 00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:05.000 That's why I did sell over about the complexity of 756 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:06.239 secrets of bloodline. 757 00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:13.280 Now, when did these experiences come to somewhat of an end? 758 00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.599 Are are you still experiencing some of this? 759 00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:20.880 Oh? Yeah, it's never stopped for me. I mean at 760 00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.559 the moment. For me, it's the military side that I 761 00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:26.199 have a lot of activity with at the moment. I mean, 762 00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:28.360 I don't discuss that side of things at the moment. 763 00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.920 I mean a lot of the time, it's because I'm 764 00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:35.119 trying to get my head around it. Really, to be fair, 765 00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:39.159 you know, it's quite I think my life is quite 766 00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:41.960 I guess a lot of the time is quite mysterious 767 00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:46.599 and an other times quite dangerous. With some of the 768 00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:48.280 activities that happened to me. 769 00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:53.039 So what are some other important points of your life 770 00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:57.519 that we haven't discussed yet that should be brought up 771 00:45:57.599 --> 00:45:58.039 right now. 772 00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:04.119 I mean, when I was a child, you know, I 773 00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:07.880 was able to do things. I had specific abilities. I 774 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:11.320 was able to move objects without touching them telekinesis, and 775 00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:15.000 that was tested. I remember being taken away and tested 776 00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:20.480 for this particular ability. But again I didn't find out 777 00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.480 what the test result so that was, or why I 778 00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:29.360 was actually tested. I guess they were just interested, I do. 779 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:33.320 I have come to understand now that the Grades when 780 00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:37.000 they took me, when they took me as a baby, 781 00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:39.119 I was taken by them as a baby, they were 782 00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:42.599 interested in my DNA. There was something in my DNA 783 00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:45.679 they were interested in at the age of four. Between 784 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:47.280 the age of four and five, I had lots of 785 00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:50.480 experiences with the Grades who abducted me, quite a lot, 786 00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:57.159 and they did actually remove something from me that was 787 00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:02.400 taken away to cause me harm. This I've discovered again 788 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:06.480 with the military. So you know, it was there to 789 00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:10.679 sort of cause me problems as I go through my life, 790 00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:12.480 to make it harder for me to do things and 791 00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:15.679 to make connections with people that I needed to make 792 00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:19.159 those connections with I guess on the spiritual level as 793 00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.119 we go through our life. So it's done deliberately to 794 00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.800 cause me harm. And I've discovered as well that's the 795 00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:32.679 case with the activities with those that I have experience 796 00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:35.400 with the military side. You know, when we talk about 797 00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:38.599 the military, I'm not talking about the people that go 798 00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:42.840 into the military and they're serving their country. There these 799 00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:46.719 are different types of military that work in the background. 800 00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:49.119 You know, if it's so to speak, you know, you're 801 00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:50.840 not going to see these These are ones that act 802 00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:55.880 in I guess illegally behind the scenes, and they do 803 00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:58.719 have you know a lot of the my lads and 804 00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:02.360 military abductions that happen. You know that you often find 805 00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:06.719 that the abductions. You got the alien abductions with the Grays, 806 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:13.039 and then then you have these encounters with these military types. 807 00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:17.960 You know. So and there's lots of different projects that 808 00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:23.760 are involved with, it seems abductions with the military that 809 00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:30.039 these children go into. You know, the one of the 810 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:34.239 encounters I had like great gray nights of trauma, and 811 00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:36.719 this was in that room I was telling you below. 812 00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:39.400 You know where the balcony roof is, so in the 813 00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:42.480 room below, I remember one night going out into the 814 00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.800 school grounds. You know everyone I used to go out 815 00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:48.719 in the school grounds and you know, I remember going 816 00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:52.800 into the large school playground. It's nighttime, it's quite late, 817 00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:56.320 arely anyone around any Every now and again, you would 818 00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:58.840 see police cars going up and down the road because 819 00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.159 we lived just oop it where one of the largest 820 00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:03.960 police stations were in London. So you often see the 821 00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:06.320 cars with the you know, the blues and the two's, 822 00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:10.480 the lights and the sirens buying out to to some 823 00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:21.559 some sort of incident. And I remember I was, I 824 00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:25.079 just turned sixteen, and I remember being in the large 825 00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:28.679 school playground and I was actually kneeling down and I 826 00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:32.800 was listening on a it was a cassette, a Sony 827 00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:38.519 cassette or Sony a cassette recorder, and I remember listening 828 00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:41.800 to Spirit of the Red Man by New World Music. 829 00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:46.599 So I remember what it was. I was being and 830 00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:50.360 on a on a you know, cassette, and I remember, 831 00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:53.039 you know, at that time, I used to even at 832 00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:56.840 that age, I used to meditate, even at a young age, 833 00:49:56.840 --> 00:49:59.480 I used to meditate and go out and you know, 834 00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:04.719 clear my mind and focus my thoughts. And I guess 835 00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.639 at the time as well, I was trying to understand 836 00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.800 what was happening to me even then, but not really 837 00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:14.639 with any clear clarity, you know, any or wasn't able 838 00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:17.320 to articulate really what was happening to me. I just 839 00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:20.239 knew I was having all these strange experiences, and a 840 00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.039 lot of the time they were quite frightening to me. 841 00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:26.960 You know, I couldn't stop them, and they would continue 842 00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:29.920 and continue. I didn't have anyone to talk to about it, 843 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.719 you see, I mean growing up where I grew up. 844 00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:34.639 And he had two options, and that was to talk 845 00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:36.920 to the priest and he would tell me I was, 846 00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:39.719 you know, in league with the devil and chuck early 847 00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:43.679 water over me. And then you know, another time, I 848 00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:46.360 have an experience which I can tell you about with 849 00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:49.440 the GP with my family doctor. 850 00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:50.400 Oh yeah. 851 00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:55.480 But on this particular night though, I always remember, you know, 852 00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:59.639 I was actually meditating and then I felt that there 853 00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:03.800 was some think watching me. You know, I couldn't explain it. 854 00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:06.360 It felt like it was coming from above me, like 855 00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:08.719 someone was just watching you. You know. It felt a 856 00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:17.800 bit like you know, just being monitored, I guess. Anyway, 857 00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:21.039 you know, after a while, it was getting late and 858 00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:24.480 I was getting tired, I decided to go back, you know, 859 00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:27.800 to go to sleep. I remember walking back to the house. 860 00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:30.480 You know, it's shielded in a you know, a coat 861 00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:33.559 of darkness. Everyone had gone a bed, basically, and so 862 00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:36.599 I remember going in and going up the staircase. But 863 00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:39.400 as I was sort of in between, you know, in 864 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:43.559 the middle of going up the stairs and going further 865 00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:46.440 up to where my bedroom would be, I felt a 866 00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:50.880 feeling in my mind that I shouldn't go upstairs. You know, 867 00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:53.639 it's a strong feeling, you know, you often feel it's 868 00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:57.639 your own thoughts. And then I was thinking myself and 869 00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:00.000 then so I took, you know, a step up again 870 00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:02.199 to go up and then I felt again this feeling 871 00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:05.440 you don't need to go upstairs, just go downstairs and 872 00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:10.119 sleep on the sofa. So I remember then, you know, 873 00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:12.440 turning around and going back down the stairs, you know. 874 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:17.360 I remember a hot summer's night, and I remember going 875 00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:24.280 into the the living room and I remember closing the door. 876 00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:27.440 The room was quite dark still. We had some thick 877 00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:30.119 green curtains up that were pulled in the closed shirt. 878 00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:33.159 They were quite heavy curtains that hung on the on 879 00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:36.400 the windows. And I remember laying down on the couch 880 00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:39.239 and I didn't need no, I didn't need to get 881 00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:41.199 undressed because it was hot, and I didn't need to cover, 882 00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.079 so I just laid on the couch and I was 883 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:48.320 quite tired at that time. And then I just, you know, 884 00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:50.679 I just closed my eyes for a few moments, but 885 00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:55.360 then only adam closed for just a few moments. Then I, 886 00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:59.639 you know, opened up quickly, and I felt a feeling 887 00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:04.159 of red. You know, with even an abduction. You know, 888 00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:06.679 over the course of time, when you have these experiences, 889 00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:10.039 you do feel this feeling of terror. You have this 890 00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:13.559 feeling of dread, and you know you're almost having this 891 00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:18.360 panic attack. You know, your mouth goes dry and your 892 00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:21.440 heart's beating, and you just gotta get away. You just 893 00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:25.039 gotta get out of there, get away quickly before something happens, 894 00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:29.320 you know, and you know that they're around, you know, 895 00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:31.360 you don't even have to see them. It's a feeling 896 00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:34.480 you get. It's almost like, you know, when you have 897 00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:36.719 these experiences, I guess with and maybe you have some 898 00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:39.760 sort of link that links into them in some way. 899 00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:46.079 And then I remember opening up my eyes and I 900 00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:49.280 want to rush towards the door, but I realized and 901 00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:53.239 I can't. I'm actually paralyzed. I can't move. I can't 902 00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:55.199 move my body. I can you know again, I can 903 00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:58.400 move my eyes, but not my body. And I remember 904 00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:04.840 feeling someone behind me, you know, when I was laying 905 00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:07.760 on the couch, and then I felt I felt a 906 00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:10.800 hand go on my head and if it wasn't a 907 00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:14.119 human hand, you know, it had claws. It's long, had claws, 908 00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:19.280 and it's touching basically there really and you know, then 909 00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:22.119 it was even worse for me, you know, But then 910 00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.480 I was I was trying to shout out and I couldn't. 911 00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:27.119 I couldn't shout out. I could open my mouth a 912 00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:29.559 little bit, I couldn't shut there was no words coming out. 913 00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:32.039 It was actually in my head. I was screaming. I 914 00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:34.760 was shouting for help, trying to get somebody in the 915 00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:38.559 house to come to me, to help me. And then 916 00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:41.840 I remember my head then was pulled back and I 917 00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:44.800 could see them looking down at me. Was this grey 918 00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:48.079 you know, gray figures like his eyes, big black eyes, 919 00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:52.920 and you know, I was I was almost like that, 920 00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:58.159 you know, And I remember another being appeared, you know, 921 00:54:58.360 --> 00:54:59.920 just in front of me, but he seemed to be 922 00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:02.880 floating towards me. And he was older in the sand, 923 00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:06.079 like a blue type wound, and it was, you know, 924 00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:13.280 glowing blue and illuminated in the dark. But at this time, 925 00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:15.119 though that it was getting a little bit lighter because 926 00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:19.760 I could see the lights, you know, coming over for 927 00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:22.880 the curtains, the top of the curtains, and the room 928 00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:27.159 was getting a little bit more lighter. And you know, 929 00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:30.360 this this being was coming towards me, and I wanted 930 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:33.400 to kick it. I wanted to punch it. I wanted 931 00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:35.960 to hurt it because I knew it's not going to 932 00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:39.679 be good for me, you know. And then I remember 933 00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:42.840 it coming towards me and it placed this whatever it was, 934 00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:46.559 this one like instrument into my mouth and I could 935 00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:51.360 feel it burning my mouth and I wasn't like that. 936 00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:54.840 And then my head screaming. My hole on. My body 937 00:55:54.920 --> 00:56:00.639 was feeling hot, and I wanted to get away, couldn't move, 938 00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:02.840 you know, I was struggling for so long, and I 939 00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:06.639 felt this axshaustion coming over me. We're almost like you're 940 00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:08.360 giving up. You got you know, what can you do? 941 00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:10.800 It's going to happen. What's going to happen is gonna happen. 942 00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:15.840 So it Di Gray was basically in my face, and 943 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:21.440 no matter how much terror I felt, I knew he could, 944 00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:25.400 I knew it could understand that, you know, this wasn't 945 00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:29.079 right what it was doing, and it still continued to 946 00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:32.920 do it, regardless my feelings or what I was thinking. 947 00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:36.000 And it was burning in my mouth. I could feel it. 948 00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:38.719 The pain in my mouth was actually burning the inside. 949 00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:41.960 It was going around my mouth, and I could feel 950 00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:45.960 feel that pain, you know, and for a while, you know, 951 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:47.800 it wasn't I guess, you know, it felt like a 952 00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:49.960 long time, but I guess it wasn't a long time. 953 00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:53.760 But at the moment that moments I was experiencing this, 954 00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:58.320 it felt like a long time. And after it stopped, 955 00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:00.960 and you know, this delight on the device went off. 956 00:57:03.239 --> 00:57:06.280 It sort of moved back a little bit, and then 957 00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:10.800 the one behind me, you know, released me, and I 958 00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:13.519 was still wasn't able to move, but as the one 959 00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:16.119 in front of me moved just to decide, it was 960 00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:20.920 then that I could see, which was quite of a shock. Really, 961 00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:25.719 there was a military person standing there. And when I 962 00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:27.760 see him, where as I described my book, he is 963 00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:31.280 he was basically dressed. He was in there. What would 964 00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:34.239 be I guess the United States Air force uniform, and 965 00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:37.039 he would have been an officer, and he's just standing there, 966 00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:38.760 you know, we were in front of him like that, 967 00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:40.760 and he's just watching. I don't know how long he 968 00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:44.079 was there. He was there, and I remember him walking 969 00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:49.119 towards the grace and then they vanished, all of them, 970 00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:53.280 and then I was then gradually able to move, and 971 00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:56.239 I remember slowly getting up, but I wanted to get 972 00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:58.440 out of the room or they'd get away quickly, because 973 00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:00.719 I didn't want him coming back and get me. And 974 00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:05.000 I remember feeling disorientated and as I stumbled down because 975 00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:07.760 I felt weak. And when eventually I got out of 976 00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:10.199 the room, I ran straight away to the downstairs toilet, 977 00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:13.159 a little small toilet downstairs where the front door is. 978 00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:15.880 I remember going in, switching on the lights and just 979 00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:18.639 looking to see what happened to my mouth. But when 980 00:58:18.639 --> 00:58:20.599 I looked in the mirror, there was nothing there. There 981 00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:25.480 was no nothing, nothing there. And then I remember, you know, 982 00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:30.559 going upstairs, and I remember falling down. I went into 983 00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:32.920 my bedroom, closed door behind me, and remember falling down 984 00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:36.960 on the floor on the carpeted floor. Was exhausted and 985 00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.639 I just fell into a deep sleep. And then when 986 00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:42.960 I did eventually wake up hours later. You know, I 987 00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:47.599 got up and I still remembered everything I remembered that, 988 00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:51.320 you know, in my book, I write it in exact detail. 989 00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:54.760 It's obviously more detail in the book. It describes, you know, 990 00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:57.760 lots more in the book than what I've described here 991 00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:01.199 and the feelings associated with here, and you know the 992 00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:04.000 outcome of that. But you know, I've always remembered it. 993 00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:06.039 You know, I'm at the age now and I can 994 00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.800 remember it like it was yesterday in every detail, from 995 00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:12.400 the moment I went out into the school grounds. What 996 00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:15.159 I see in the school grounds, you know, and all 997 00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:19.239 the feelings and all the sounds, and you know, everything 998 00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:24.559 is detailed in that moment. And you know, but I 999 00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:27.840 don't know, I don't know what they did. I mean, 1000 00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:31.159 there's you know, there's a situation years later that might 1001 00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:33.639 describe maybe they put something in because I did have 1002 00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:37.000 a I did have something full out my mouth once. 1003 00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:40.960 I can tell you about if you want love to 1004 00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:43.719 hear it. I mean this, I mean this was in 1005 00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:48.159 a This was like another a different age. It was 1006 00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:52.280 in a different area then. And I remember being getting 1007 00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:55.239 up one morning, going to the sink in the bathroom, 1008 00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:59.159 and you know, the plug in the sink and never 1009 00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:02.880 the wash. And I remember when I opened my mouth, 1010 01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:06.719 something fell out of my mouth into the sink. You know, 1011 01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:10.360 Luckily I had the plug. It was gone down the sinkhole. 1012 01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:13.480 And I remember it was just like it was just 1013 01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:17.760 like really really small, really small, like that perfect square, 1014 01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:23.400 and it was almost like a bronze type color, and 1015 01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:27.440 it was metal or some type of metal. And there 1016 01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:29.559 was no blood that come out. They just fell out. 1017 01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:32.679 It wasn't there in the nighttime, and you know, normally 1018 01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:36.880 you'd feel something like that. And I remember then quickly 1019 01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:39.920 going to get a magnifying glass, and I looked at 1020 01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:42.559 the magnifying glass and it had little symbols on this 1021 01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:46.800 metal and it had wires, little wires on it. Wow, 1022 01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:50.519 very very very tiny wires. So I didn't know what 1023 01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:53.760 it was. A little while later, not long after that, 1024 01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:59.320 I found a telephone a number of local UFO researcher eupologist, 1025 01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:04.440 and I contacted him, called him. He told me, you know, 1026 01:01:04.679 --> 01:01:06.760 when you come over to my house and wherever, look 1027 01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:10.079 and see what we can see. So I went over 1028 01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:14.400 to his house and I remember I'm telling him a 1029 01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:20.800 little bit of my background, you know, not everything, and 1030 01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:23.719 he had to look under a more powerful magnifying glass 1031 01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:27.039 and he says, yeah, you're absolutely white. It's got signals 1032 01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:29.280 on it and it's got wires in it. And he 1033 01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:31.159 just said to me, he fell out of your mouth, 1034 01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:33.719 and I went, yeah, you know, what can I say? 1035 01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:35.679 It just fell out my mouth. So it wasn't there 1036 01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.079 the night before. There was no blood because he asked me, 1037 01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:40.159 was there any blood? And I said no, there was 1038 01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:45.159 no pain, just fell out. And then he said to me, 1039 01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:46.800 if you leave it with me, I've got a friend 1040 01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:51.320 in the m O D. And he said he'll take 1041 01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:53.079 a look at it and see what we can find. 1042 01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:55.880 So anyway, the weeks went past, I didn't hear nothing 1043 01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:58.360 from him, and then when I did contact him, he 1044 01:01:58.840 --> 01:02:01.719 just said to me, I'm so sorry. I've tried to 1045 01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:04.840 contact the individual. I go this object too, he said, 1046 01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:09.400 but the individual has now been moved and the object's 1047 01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:12.199 gone with him. So I don't know what to make 1048 01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:15.639 of that, but I do know this particular euthologist was 1049 01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:20.360 being watched by military intelligence because you're being involved in 1050 01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:22.639 some case I think to do with one of the 1051 01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:26.920 black triangular craft and is after that, his house was 1052 01:02:26.960 --> 01:02:30.119 broken into quite a lot. And the police did find 1053 01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:34.519 some listing devices at the time in his house. And 1054 01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:37.880 I just know he's been assled quite a lot by 1055 01:02:38.039 --> 01:02:41.719 these and so you know, that's another. And you seem 1056 01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:43.960 to get all these strange things happen to you, you know, 1057 01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:47.000 when you have these abductions, there's lots of things that 1058 01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:50.639 happened to you. I've had loads of stuff, really strange 1059 01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:53.719 experiences happened to you, you know, just in the light 1060 01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:56.840 of day, or you know, just unusual things, you know, 1061 01:02:57.239 --> 01:02:59.880 And obviously you have to be you know, you know, 1062 01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:02.400 I try to be grounded. First of all. I don't 1063 01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:04.679 say it's this, It's that I tried to explain it 1064 01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:09.039 away with some sort of rationality, you know, before you go. 1065 01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:11.840 You know, so I'm very I'm very grounded in my 1066 01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:14.159 approach to things. I'm not just you know, if you 1067 01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:16.079 hear a sound, it's got to be this, what's got 1068 01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:18.719 to be like to eliminate it? And then then you 1069 01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:19.239 go to that. 1070 01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:23.360 Yeah, now for the last few minutes we have, let's 1071 01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:27.719 get to your current understanding of a possible big picture 1072 01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:32.519 that could be unfolding with your experiences and many other 1073 01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:37.239 experiences I've had plenty of guests that have very similar 1074 01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:42.039 unfoldings as you starting with poltergeist experiences and the homes. 1075 01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:46.519 Family members that may be involved with some sort of 1076 01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:53.880 magical order or secret societies, military involvement, and great extra 1077 01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:56.840 terrestrials at some point in their lives. So this is 1078 01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:01.159 very interesting. There's a lot of similarities with other cases, 1079 01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:04.960 also a lot of differences. But what is your understanding 1080 01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:09.760 of what could be unfolding here? There are also other 1081 01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:15.280 people with very different types of i'd say more benevolent experiences, 1082 01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:20.559 more pleasant experiences, with different types of beings, but oftentimes 1083 01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:26.239 these gray creatures are associated with military encounters. So what 1084 01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:27.280 do you think is happening? 1085 01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:34.039 Well, we know that people do have positive experiences, and 1086 01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:37.719 that's a good thing. You know. The difference between mine 1087 01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:39.599 and theirs is is that they were you know, a 1088 01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:41.559 lot of the time they're asked. You know, we're just 1089 01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:45.599 taken as children, right, we don't have no choice, But 1090 01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.119 there is certainly I do you know, I do know 1091 01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:53.800 there is a strong connection with the military intelligence agencies. 1092 01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:57.119 You know, they are actively involved. You know, we have 1093 01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:00.960 a big community now my labs, you know, super soldiers, 1094 01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:03.880 the secret space program, you know, these are things that 1095 01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:06.480 I'm involved with, They're just things I don't talk about much. 1096 01:05:07.719 --> 01:05:12.320 So you know, I think, you know, we've got a 1097 01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:16.679 lot going on now with disclosure. I personally don't think 1098 01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:20.599 disclosure will come in or in the way in which 1099 01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:24.719 a lot of people in the you know, uthologists or 1100 01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:29.400 euthology and believe it will come. You know, I think 1101 01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:31.360 a lot of the time, you know, we're disclosure. Really 1102 01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:34.400 the people that are talking about it, the people that 1103 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:36.840 are in these experiences. Now we're the ones that are 1104 01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:39.480 really the disclosure. I mean, do we really need the 1105 01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:42.800 governments to tell us what we already know? You know, 1106 01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:45.079 they may know more a little bit more than obviously 1107 01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:47.639 a lot more than us, but because they've got all 1108 01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:52.039 the facts in front of them and are involved. But again, 1109 01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:55.039 you know, the conferences that we have the good we 1110 01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:57.519 need to speak a lot more to other people that 1111 01:05:57.639 --> 01:06:01.320 are not actually engaged in our communities like Joe blogs 1112 01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:04.880 and or you know, the everyday person on the you know, 1113 01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:08.800 in the communities that have nothing to do with this 1114 01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:11.280 type of phenomenon, and we need to reach out to 1115 01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:16.119 them to again their understanding of this type of phenomena 1116 01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:19.000 because you know, we can go to conferences. A lot 1117 01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:21.679 of the time we go to conferences, we're meeting and 1118 01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:24.400 engaging with the same people all the time. You know, 1119 01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:26.840 the people that come there that come to support, they've 1120 01:06:26.840 --> 01:06:29.599 got the experiences. But what about the people outside of that, 1121 01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:32.639 outside of those communities. We need to reach out further 1122 01:06:33.079 --> 01:06:35.119 to those type of people, the people that are more 1123 01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:39.800 likely to scoff or laugh or ridicule. We need to 1124 01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:43.559 give them and present to them a better understanding of 1125 01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:46.679 these type of phenomena, but not just talk about it, 1126 01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:49.079 but back it up with what the current events that 1127 01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:53.079 have happened, you know, in Washington, and you know, bring 1128 01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:57.159 them on board because it's that majority of people that 1129 01:06:57.199 --> 01:06:59.320 are going to be I think make a difference. 1130 01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:04.960 You know, it's I say, there seems to be certain 1131 01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:12.280 groups of people, certain individuals as well, that are singled 1132 01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:15.559 out and targeted for some of these experiences. And it's 1133 01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:19.519 theorized by many that it has to do with their 1134 01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:21.960 direct bloodline. What do you think about that. 1135 01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:28.320 The bloodlines do have a strong link to a lot 1136 01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:32.079 of those that have these experiences. You know, alien abductees 1137 01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:36.960 has said, super soldiers have or you know, icon futuristic 1138 01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:41.320 soldiers but they do have strong links. I believe what 1139 01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:45.480 they do, what they are doing is you know, with 1140 01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:51.559 advanced technology and advanced sciences. You know, we people speculate 1141 01:07:51.639 --> 01:07:53.840 that it doesn't exist. Of course it exists, it's just 1142 01:07:53.920 --> 01:07:56.440 hidden away from us. You know, we're not stupid. We 1143 01:07:56.559 --> 01:08:01.719 know exist. But you know, they there seems to be 1144 01:08:01.760 --> 01:08:05.599 a connection with particular blood lines in families, like they've 1145 01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:10.239 come from occult families. They're involved with witchcard with iron magic, 1146 01:08:10.679 --> 01:08:13.719 you know, and that's with a C K magic and 1147 01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:17.319 not the C. You know, they seem to have you know, 1148 01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:20.439 members of the family that are involved in the military 1149 01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:24.840 or the intelligence community, you know as particularly the Navy 1150 01:08:24.920 --> 01:08:28.079 or the you know, the Department of Events in the US. 1151 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:34.960 And there seems to be you know, there seems to 1152 01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:37.760 be something inside the DNA or in the blood that 1153 01:08:37.800 --> 01:08:40.720 the military and the Grays are interested in. We know 1154 01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:44.399 that the Grays, you know, are creating cloning programs, they're 1155 01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:47.560 planning programs. The military of the programs as well. They're 1156 01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:50.760 involved with cloning. You know, people think it's far fetched, 1157 01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:53.920 but there's a lot of science now that suggests that's 1158 01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:58.159 not the case. So there's a lot of things going on. 1159 01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:00.960 I think also one of the things that they are 1160 01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:05.079 what they do, especially within the super soldier communities or 1161 01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:09.960 those that have these experiences as children and then adults 1162 01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:13.399 in these projects, is that they are actually able now 1163 01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:17.840 to look back into your past life, and they're taking 1164 01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:25.840 parts of your past lives and uploading them into what 1165 01:09:25.880 --> 01:09:31.600 would be quantum type computers and somehow taking your past 1166 01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:34.760 lives almost like taking it from the Akashek records, taking 1167 01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:38.159 those experiences. So, for instance, what you find is a 1168 01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:41.000 lot of people in these these type of bloodlines, if 1169 01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:43.640 you look back in trace back into their past lives, 1170 01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:48.439 they often have similar past lives. You know, they were vikings, 1171 01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:53.640 they were like druids, or they're served in coveents, they're 1172 01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:59.720 like you know, witchcraft, you know, they're being knights, templars. 1173 01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:03.720 These type of blood lines all out are all involved 1174 01:10:03.760 --> 01:10:07.119 with high magic, with their cult with you know, everything 1175 01:10:07.159 --> 01:10:11.239 that's hidden. You know. They may have been priests in Egypt, 1176 01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:15.720 you know, or they have connections to Atlantis, Themeria, you know, 1177 01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:17.800 and so on and so on. And I believe that 1178 01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:21.439 the military in particular are interested in these type of 1179 01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:25.439 blood lines for their military projects and programmers. You know you. 1180 01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:28.560 Another thing you'll find is are you and find this 1181 01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:31.439 is that a lot of people that are abductee, a 1182 01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:34.720 lot of people that a soldiers period, A lot of 1183 01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:37.800 them are on the spec family for any event check 1184 01:10:37.840 --> 01:10:44.159 out now or they've got ADHD, So I believe prepared 1185 01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:48.279 with these particular projects. You often find is that these 1186 01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:53.079 particular individuals often community to ensure you know, they're the 1187 01:10:53.079 --> 01:10:56.399 ones that work in the you know, in the community. 1188 01:10:56.760 --> 01:11:01.760 You know that their products, the computer with the essential. 1189 01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:04.359 There's a there's a link in some way as well. 1190 01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:06.600 Emergency spect from tactical. 1191 01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:10.159 Tools on the spectrum and you know, I'm suspected of 1192 01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:13.279 autist perhaps, you know, but one of the what they 1193 01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:17.479 called the lost generation back in time to recognize that 1194 01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:20.640 everything as it is today. I think you'll find that 1195 01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:23.720 many people who speaks, if you ask them today, they 1196 01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:30.279 maybe either they believe more or officially diagnosed or help. 1197 01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:34.920 So there's a link. I think with products in the 1198 01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:38.840 military are very interesting and I think you will find 1199 01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:43.720 that the children are being used by the military and 1200 01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:46.760 they have been used in some of the most awable ways. 1201 01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:50.439 And you know, I find it difficult sometimes to discuss 1202 01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:55.960 that on the podcast because it's the particular undertakings that 1203 01:11:55.960 --> 01:11:59.920 that children undergo on. These projects are very horrific, you know, 1204 01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:03.119 and it's things that I've gone through, you know, at 1205 01:12:03.159 --> 01:12:06.720 a very early age. You know, if I may say, 1206 01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:10.760 you know, like satanic ritual abuse. You know, these are 1207 01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:15.920 are designed to create a dissociation and to force your 1208 01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:19.960 consciousness out of your body so that then can be 1209 01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:24.720 an alter then can be programmed, right and the altars. Then, 1210 01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:27.960 you know, when your mind is split into pieces, it's 1211 01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:30.800 still part of you know, it's like umpty dumpty, you guess, 1212 01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:34.119 you know, broken into many pieces. These pieces are then 1213 01:12:34.279 --> 01:12:37.960 taken which are parts of your consciousness, so the part 1214 01:12:37.960 --> 01:12:42.159 of your front altar, so it's broken into different pieces 1215 01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:45.560 which is still part of your consciousness, but are now 1216 01:12:45.640 --> 01:12:49.760 in a way separated. These are then programmed, and these 1217 01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:52.880 are then programmed. Then they're actually placed into what we 1218 01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:56.760 call avatar bodies. So it's a consciousness that is able 1219 01:12:56.800 --> 01:13:03.000 to act and it's programmed to act on these projects. 1220 01:13:03.279 --> 01:13:05.159 I mean it sounds in a way, it sounds quite 1221 01:13:05.239 --> 01:13:08.000 you know, spaced out and stuff like that, but when 1222 01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:10.039 you look into it and you look at other people 1223 01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:14.199 that have these experiences, you find that, you know, there's 1224 01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:17.159 a bigger picture that's forming, you know, and there is 1225 01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:20.199 a science behind this, you know, And this is something 1226 01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:22.720 as well that needs to be explored more and more 1227 01:13:22.720 --> 01:13:23.079 and more. 1228 01:13:23.279 --> 01:13:26.000 This is actually something that I'd love to have you 1229 01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:29.840 back on for a second episode to get deeper into 1230 01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:35.960 the Super Soldier military secret space aspects of this, because 1231 01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:38.479 I used to cover this a lot a long time 1232 01:13:38.520 --> 01:13:43.520 ago when there was a more limited understanding, and now 1233 01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:46.239 we have so many more people that are coming out 1234 01:13:46.279 --> 01:13:50.439 and sharing their experiences because more people are feeling comfortable 1235 01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:54.000 enough to do so. And I definitely think that there 1236 01:13:55.000 --> 01:14:00.239 is large scale operations that the public really needs to 1237 01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:04.399 know about that have involved people against their will for 1238 01:14:04.439 --> 01:14:08.279 a very long time. So lots of things are coming 1239 01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:10.960 out during this time period. I think it's a very 1240 01:14:11.079 --> 01:14:14.640 important time period for us all. And Michael, I want 1241 01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:16.880 to thank you again for coming on and sharing this 1242 01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:19.760 with us. We'll definitely do this again. We'll schedule something 1243 01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:24.640 for next month. But before we close out today, let 1244 01:14:24.720 --> 01:14:27.560 the audience know again how they can find your book 1245 01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:29.880 and anything else you've got out there. 1246 01:14:32.439 --> 01:14:35.000 Yeah, my book is available on Amazon. It's on the 1247 01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:41.000 paperback had cover kindle and audio book. It's currently only 1248 01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:46.000 at the moment sold on Amazon, and at the moment, 1249 01:14:46.039 --> 01:14:49.840 I'm writing a second book. But the second book will 1250 01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:52.079 be a follow on from the first. I mean, my 1251 01:14:52.119 --> 01:14:56.600 first book is very much like a memoir really focusing 1252 01:14:56.640 --> 01:15:00.439 on that part of my life and you know, my 1253 01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:06.600 you know, my my understanding of my family and other 1254 01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:09.159 experiences that will be you know, you can read in 1255 01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:12.840 my book. But my second book will be focused primarily 1256 01:15:13.720 --> 01:15:18.319 although it will have experiences again with these particular gray beings, 1257 01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:23.479 it will be focused more around my lab and super 1258 01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:29.039 Soldier and projects involved with this super Soldier community that 1259 01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:32.520 I've you know, I'm still investigating them, researching it. Really, 1260 01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:35.159 it's a it's a long it's a long, long road 1261 01:15:35.239 --> 01:15:40.199 of trying to figure it all out, really, but you know, 1262 01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:42.640 there's there's a lot of stuff I'm learning about myself 1263 01:15:43.159 --> 01:15:46.239 and my past and things that have been hidden from me. 1264 01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:49.560 Excellent, Michael, Thank you so much. Thank you again for 1265 01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:51.640 sharing this with us. Like I said, thank you doing 1266 01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:54.600 this again soon and until next time, everyone, have an 1267 01:15:54.600 --> 01:15:58.359 excellent evening. We will talk again tomorrow and we'll see 1268 01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:03.199 y'all then. Today, I want to welcome Lubamir Arzov. He 1269 01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:07.800 is an artist and storyteller working as an animation writer 1270 01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:13.079 and director. His personal work explores the psychological, parapolitical, and 1271 01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:21.039 spiritual dynamics that define the momentous time we are collectively navigating. Lubamir, welcome, 1272 01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:22.039 How you doing. 1273 01:16:23.479 --> 01:16:26.000 Doing well, Chris? Thanks for having me. I'm excited to 1274 01:16:26.039 --> 01:16:28.520 speak to you. See where the conversation leads. 1275 01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:32.319 Yes, man, definitely. Like I told you before, I've been 1276 01:16:32.359 --> 01:16:37.159 watching your films and I haven't felt that much emotion 1277 01:16:37.479 --> 01:16:42.399 and inspiration from any film, TV show, or any form 1278 01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:46.600 of audio visual media in a very long time. And 1279 01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:51.159 this short film Kingdom, it made my day. And I'm 1280 01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:53.359 in the process of going through as much of your 1281 01:16:53.399 --> 01:16:56.680 work as possible. This, like I was saying before, is 1282 01:16:56.720 --> 01:17:00.159 what the world needs more of all the time. I 1283 01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:05.560 highly recommend everyone go check out Lubamir's YouTube channel in Shadow, 1284 01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:09.560 I have a link right in the description, and we're 1285 01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:12.239 going to get into some of your insights into everything, 1286 01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:16.640 because once you see this video, it's going to immediately 1287 01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:21.199 connect with a lot of I believe, our collective understanding 1288 01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:23.840 of a lot of things that's happening right now. But 1289 01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:26.840 before we get into any of that. Let's start with 1290 01:17:26.920 --> 01:17:30.680 a little bit more about yourself and what triggered your 1291 01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:32.600 awakening process. 1292 01:17:33.760 --> 01:17:36.399 Yeah, for sure, that's really good to hear that reaction 1293 01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:42.000 to Kingdom. Yeah, a little bit about myself. I clearly 1294 01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:44.479 you know, I'm an artist. I'm a storyteller. I've worked 1295 01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:47.960 in animation for over fifteen years now for various bigger 1296 01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:52.439 companies and projects, arranging and from TV, two different movies. 1297 01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:55.880 But the you know, the work that really matters to me, 1298 01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:59.319 the work that is really helpful I think at this 1299 01:17:59.439 --> 01:18:02.479 moment in time time is my personal work, and specifically 1300 01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:05.079 two personal films that I've made and a third one 1301 01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:07.000 that I was hired to do, but it's still very 1302 01:18:07.079 --> 01:18:10.159 dear to me, those films being In Shadow, which I 1303 01:18:10.159 --> 01:18:13.199 released in twenty seventeen, which mapped out kind of a 1304 01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:17.239 somewhat of a pair of political conspiratorial lens through which 1305 01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:20.920 we saw the collective shadow and the interplay between our 1306 01:18:21.239 --> 01:18:26.960 complicity and this somewhat oppressive yet not always evidently oppressive 1307 01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:31.279 system and world situation that we find ourselves in, and 1308 01:18:31.359 --> 01:18:35.239 of course, the underlying, the pervasive, the inevitable spiritual reality 1309 01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:40.399 that encompasses it all. And this hero's journey that we 1310 01:18:40.479 --> 01:18:45.000 are in collectively. Forrest King I directed recently as well. 1311 01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:47.880 It's part of a series it's on Amazon Prime right now, 1312 01:18:48.479 --> 01:18:50.760 part of the Red Iron Road, in which I explored 1313 01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:54.840 a lot of the NPC culture, disavowal of free will, 1314 01:18:55.199 --> 01:18:58.560 a lot of the impending smart city, technocratic, dystopian social 1315 01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:03.640 credits core stuff, and of course the emerging concerns of 1316 01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:11.079 consciousness AI the synthetic digital world which seems to want 1317 01:19:11.119 --> 01:19:13.359 to eat up consciousness and that's a big topy we 1318 01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:17.840 you know, we could get into and the organic, actual 1319 01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:22.239 stream of of real consciousness coming from from source and 1320 01:19:22.359 --> 01:19:28.079 our duty to clarify that, expand it, and really be 1321 01:19:28.239 --> 01:19:31.800 the authors of that. And then finally it's Kingdom, which 1322 01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:34.680 you just mentioned, and Kingdom was released two weeks ago, 1323 01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:38.479 and with that piece, it's a very visceral piece. My 1324 01:19:38.520 --> 01:19:41.199 intention was, you know, we're in a very interesting point 1325 01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:43.880 in time and we need a lot of inspiration, empowerment 1326 01:19:43.920 --> 01:19:48.319 and the tools to do that because as most of 1327 01:19:48.399 --> 01:19:50.760 us know, no one's coming to save us. And it's 1328 01:19:50.840 --> 01:19:56.439 really a game of having the daring and claiming what 1329 01:19:56.520 --> 01:19:59.560 we want to envision it, to have the courage to envision, 1330 01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:02.960 to have the courage to act toward it and really 1331 01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:07.439 bootstrap and be inspired powerful human beings. 1332 01:20:07.520 --> 01:20:15.000 Oh yes, Now, for me, my awakening included very profound 1333 01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:24.159 spiritual experiences, meditation, plant medicine, and having experiences that connected 1334 01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:29.079 dots and looking back at everything that's happened over the 1335 01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:34.920 last few years, I have a much different understanding of 1336 01:20:35.680 --> 01:20:39.680 how not only I fit into everything, but the bigger 1337 01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:44.840 picture of what's really happening. And came to a conclusion 1338 01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:49.520 where I'm at right now is that the events of 1339 01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:53.319 twenty twenty and really it started before that. But this 1340 01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:58.920 energy that's started to come through and affect every single 1341 01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:02.920 person on this earth. If it wouldn't have happened the 1342 01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:07.479 way it did, we may not be at this stage 1343 01:21:07.520 --> 01:21:09.840 that we are right now. I think that there's a 1344 01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:13.600 series of events that, whether you want to call it, 1345 01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:17.920 some cosmic force has started to shine on us and 1346 01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:23.199 people are starting to have this collective awareness. But for me, 1347 01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:26.640 it was a series of profound events and like I said, 1348 01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:30.840 plant medicines and meditation. What was it for you that 1349 01:21:31.479 --> 01:21:37.000 made you come to your awareness level that you're at now? 1350 01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:41.119 Yeah, similar to you, plant medicines, were definitely part of 1351 01:21:41.159 --> 01:21:44.439 the journey. One of the main things is it's somewhat mundane, 1352 01:21:44.479 --> 01:21:48.000 yet it's inevitable for any human being that starts looking 1353 01:21:48.039 --> 01:21:51.560 around the world and asking like, is this it? And 1354 01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:54.760 by that I mean the menu that we've picked from 1355 01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:57.800 and are acting according to and doing, you know, all 1356 01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:00.000 the things that we're supposed to do in a society, 1357 01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:05.520 a modern society. At one point it inevitably will not 1358 01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:08.119 be satisfying to the soul, to the fulfillment of that 1359 01:22:08.239 --> 01:22:11.039 human and our path if we're just part of the 1360 01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:15.479 mold of the presented options, right, and at one point 1361 01:22:16.159 --> 01:22:19.760 we can either ask is this it? And is there more? 1362 01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:23.760 And start inquiring more deeply, or we wither away and 1363 01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:26.880 go into a sense of entropy and completely try to 1364 01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:29.720 deny the misery that builds up in the soul. Because 1365 01:22:29.720 --> 01:22:32.760 it seems I'm inferring here by seeing what happens in 1366 01:22:32.800 --> 01:22:36.119 me and in all of our people, is that if 1367 01:22:36.159 --> 01:22:39.800 we deny that impulse for growth, for truth, for reality, 1368 01:22:40.039 --> 01:22:43.159 we get more sick, more deranged, and we go to 1369 01:22:43.239 --> 01:22:45.439 more and more absurdities. And we're seeing this right now 1370 01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:47.319 in the world right People who don't want to see 1371 01:22:47.319 --> 01:22:50.279 what is real, what is natural? What is of the earth, 1372 01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:54.199 of the hierarchies of existence. As they descend into the 1373 01:22:54.199 --> 01:22:58.079 material plane, they're going mad wild and denying the reality 1374 01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:01.439 of this divine beauty and so turning very destructive doword creation. 1375 01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:05.720 And so my awakening part of it was questioning these things. 1376 01:23:05.319 --> 01:23:08.199 It was just being part of my journey. But you know, 1377 01:23:08.399 --> 01:23:12.039 other triggers have been like many of us, as Cliche goes, 1378 01:23:12.119 --> 01:23:15.079 ninety eleven, was it not when it happened, but many 1379 01:23:15.159 --> 01:23:17.560 years later, when I was ready in my mid twenties, 1380 01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:21.199 I had some deep insights that shook me. And I 1381 01:23:21.239 --> 01:23:23.880 do feel that nine eleven it was many things. One 1382 01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:27.520 of them was an event for awakening, an event in 1383 01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:31.399 which the polar opposites of those two pillars fell down 1384 01:23:31.479 --> 01:23:35.000 and we almost entered the gate of initiation, for you know, 1385 01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:38.840 in a by startling us into oh shit, this is 1386 01:23:39.079 --> 01:23:43.319 such a largely seemingly orchestrated event. It is so ballsy 1387 01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:46.920 that it makes me feel like they are greater players 1388 01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:52.720 and forces within this realm. And once we start entertaining 1389 01:23:52.760 --> 01:23:58.199 that the implications are huge, right initially, they're scary, they're shocking. 1390 01:23:59.079 --> 01:24:01.840 It's difficult to unders. But once they start being integrated, 1391 01:24:02.119 --> 01:24:05.840 we start gaining more power because we see what the 1392 01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:06.399 players are. 1393 01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:11.000 Now I want to get deep into what these forces 1394 01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:15.359 are that you were just mentioning. What are these intelligences 1395 01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:19.079 that are pulling the strings and how does this all 1396 01:24:19.119 --> 01:24:22.439 farm our human experience here? First, I do want to 1397 01:24:22.479 --> 01:24:26.079 get into some of what we're seeing with technology and 1398 01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:30.560 the way that it has steered our consciousness and caused 1399 01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:34.720 us to divert from certain natural paths and the past 1400 01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:38.720 few decades and where it's really going. And you mentioned 1401 01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:43.439 AI and it used to be a really terrifying subject 1402 01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:47.279 for me before I came into the awareness that there's 1403 01:24:47.319 --> 01:24:50.079 really nothing to worry about as long as we're on 1404 01:24:50.159 --> 01:24:52.239 our true path and doing what we have to do. 1405 01:24:52.720 --> 01:24:56.520 But it can be terrifying to examine and really look 1406 01:24:56.560 --> 01:25:00.920 at some of the implications of what's happening with What 1407 01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:01.720 do you see there? 1408 01:25:03.920 --> 01:25:06.119 Oh man, there's so much to see. And yeah, of course, 1409 01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:10.159 the dire aspect of it annihilating us, which is one 1410 01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:14.479 obvious aspect, is definitely there. What I find interesting because 1411 01:25:14.720 --> 01:25:19.079 I'm constantly tracking consciousness and the amount of freedom and 1412 01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:22.199 agency and sovereignty the consciousness has because that's where the 1413 01:25:22.239 --> 01:25:25.640 game gets interesting, and that's when we are really at 1414 01:25:25.680 --> 01:25:28.239 the edge of our abilities, right when we are making 1415 01:25:28.279 --> 01:25:31.720 conscious choices, which is no small task because we are 1416 01:25:31.800 --> 01:25:34.600 run according to a lot of our psychological patterns on 1417 01:25:34.720 --> 01:25:38.520 clear trauma, a lot of assumptions, a lot of cultural programming. 1418 01:25:39.039 --> 01:25:41.039 So in order for us to be able to get 1419 01:25:41.079 --> 01:25:43.680 to clarity is a big deal. And so I'm tracking 1420 01:25:43.760 --> 01:25:47.800 AI and how it potentially is tampering with that and 1421 01:25:47.840 --> 01:25:53.319 will tamper ever more so, especially when utilized. Now AI 1422 01:25:53.399 --> 01:25:57.680 can be utilized intelligently by luminous beings, by intelligent, sovereign 1423 01:25:57.760 --> 01:26:03.680 humans for our betterment, and that will happen inevitably as well. 1424 01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:08.399 It's just that the overall state of consciousness, the state 1425 01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:11.960 of quality human beings right now on our planet is 1426 01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:14.159 not that great based on what I am able to 1427 01:26:14.199 --> 01:26:17.760 see and discern, and so these people are guiding the 1428 01:26:17.840 --> 01:26:22.199 evolution of AI, which is not great. So AI is 1429 01:26:22.239 --> 01:26:25.960 inevitably going to be used to incentivize people into these 1430 01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:33.880 closed loops of functioning, especially when it's tethered to digital currencies, 1431 01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:39.439 digital ideas, and centralized authorized technocratic rulership in which people 1432 01:26:39.640 --> 01:26:45.600 will disavow their ability to make conscious choices, creative choices 1433 01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:49.600 to see the world based on the way that it 1434 01:26:49.720 --> 01:26:54.880 is in this moment, by incentivizing behaviors, thoughts, and emotions 1435 01:26:54.880 --> 01:27:01.119 which are rewarded, probably through blockchain technology, and it has 1436 01:27:01.119 --> 01:27:04.520 the potential of creating a living hell on earth and 1437 01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:11.279 really collapsing and limiting our consciousness into small pockets of 1438 01:27:12.399 --> 01:27:18.159 controlled behavior. Now that is that's a very undignified, empathetic 1439 01:27:18.199 --> 01:27:23.960 way for any of us to live. And it's it's 1440 01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:29.000 interesting because AI and it's way of organizing and systematizing 1441 01:27:29.119 --> 01:27:31.119 all these ways, if it's used in a negative way, 1442 01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:37.319 really taps into the mechanical way that human beings function already. 1443 01:27:37.560 --> 01:27:40.920 You know, we myself, you can probably attest to this 1444 01:27:41.039 --> 01:27:44.239 the audience, if we're honest, much of our day is 1445 01:27:44.239 --> 01:27:48.399 spent on rehashing the same old thoughts, same old behaviors, 1446 01:27:49.199 --> 01:27:51.720 same emotions, and we sort of like go with them. 1447 01:27:51.960 --> 01:27:54.399 You know. If we're not fully always doing the inner work, 1448 01:27:54.439 --> 01:27:56.600 and none of us are truly fully always doing it, 1449 01:27:57.640 --> 01:28:01.319 we continue to recreate similar as and et cetera. So 1450 01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:05.239 a lot of our consciousness, because it's not refined and 1451 01:28:05.279 --> 01:28:09.359 being super pristine, tapped into the now will easily tap 1452 01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:15.399 into what AI offers, because reality is it's frustrating, it's confusing, 1453 01:28:15.520 --> 01:28:18.960 it's often scary, and it's it's beginning to look more 1454 01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:21.479 and more scary based on all the things that are happening, 1455 01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:24.720 both orchestrated, and I think just as a natural part 1456 01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:31.199 of this evolution, and so hiding in this AI very 1457 01:28:31.199 --> 01:28:36.159 well organized definition of what reality is, of the you know, 1458 01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:38.119 the actions that you need to take, the thoughts that 1459 01:28:38.159 --> 01:28:39.800 you need to think. I think for a lot of 1460 01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:43.119 people that will actually be a comfort because a lot 1461 01:28:43.159 --> 01:28:45.079 of people do want to be told what to think, 1462 01:28:45.159 --> 01:28:47.680 wow to feel, just as long as they're comfortable and 1463 01:28:47.800 --> 01:28:50.479 do not seek truth. So I'll stop it there because 1464 01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:51.239 I can forever. 1465 01:28:52.399 --> 01:28:58.880 I have the intuitive just understanding that what we're experiencing 1466 01:28:59.439 --> 01:29:04.279 probably happened many times before, that everything is cyclical, that 1467 01:29:04.399 --> 01:29:09.880 we're re experiencing everything, everything is about remembering, remembering who 1468 01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:12.760 we are, why we're here, and that it's all a 1469 01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:18.159 process of basically remembering our soul mission, why where we 1470 01:29:18.279 --> 01:29:22.319 really come from, and why we are here at this moment. 1471 01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:29.159 It seems like what's happening now is it's a combination 1472 01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:34.439 of this remembering, and it's a desire, like you said, 1473 01:29:34.479 --> 01:29:37.840 to be outside of this box that we built for 1474 01:29:37.920 --> 01:29:44.560 ourselves through religion, through education, through these control systems. Now, 1475 01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:47.319 my question to you is, how did we get to 1476 01:29:47.399 --> 01:29:53.800 the point where we are completely governed by these intelligences, 1477 01:29:53.920 --> 01:29:58.520 these dark forces. Is there a point in the human 1478 01:29:58.560 --> 01:30:04.640 experience in every lifetime and every cycle where we it's 1479 01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:08.920 part of our journey that we have to encounter ultimate darkness, 1480 01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:13.840 have it almost infiltrate every aspect of our lives before 1481 01:30:14.039 --> 01:30:17.159 we can even realize that we are under this spell. 1482 01:30:17.760 --> 01:30:21.319 And it seems like this just keeps happening, and it 1483 01:30:21.399 --> 01:30:25.439 may happen until maybe somehow break some sort of cycle. 1484 01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:28.399 I don't know. How do you feel about how everything 1485 01:30:28.479 --> 01:30:29.640 is unfolding in that way? 1486 01:30:31.159 --> 01:30:33.039 Yeah, I would agree with you that there is this 1487 01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:35.600 perpetual dance of dark and light, at least the way 1488 01:30:35.600 --> 01:30:38.920 that we understand this realm right now, because you know, 1489 01:30:38.960 --> 01:30:41.720 I can only attest to this lifetime. It's all I remember, 1490 01:30:42.239 --> 01:30:45.479 And we know history is so contentious right now, so 1491 01:30:45.640 --> 01:30:48.159 all I can do is infer from my experiences here, 1492 01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:51.880 and I am seeing that that the tension created by 1493 01:30:52.079 --> 01:30:55.439 oppositional forces, by polarity, which is what our realm is 1494 01:30:55.439 --> 01:31:00.159 based on, is polarities and extreme polarities and then the 1495 01:31:00.239 --> 01:31:04.159 gradient of a phenomena and experience between them. And as 1496 01:31:04.199 --> 01:31:08.279 we map out those polarities, we're really mapping out all 1497 01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:12.520 the various experiences and all the skills and abilities necessary 1498 01:31:12.560 --> 01:31:15.680 to go from one to the other. By experiencing something 1499 01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:19.600 like joy and sorrow just gives and builds on that 1500 01:31:19.800 --> 01:31:23.560 library of awareness of knowing of what it is to 1501 01:31:23.640 --> 01:31:30.159 be consciousness, experiencing the various flavors, notes and colors of 1502 01:31:30.640 --> 01:31:33.640 being right. So that's kind of taking a zoomed out, 1503 01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:37.520 more charitable approach. Now, when we're in it, it's gnarly, 1504 01:31:37.600 --> 01:31:39.800 it's gritty. We know what it is. It can paralyze 1505 01:31:39.840 --> 01:31:42.439 us for a lifetime. You know, some of us can 1506 01:31:42.479 --> 01:31:46.119 live in fear, regret, and sorrow for a lifetime, so 1507 01:31:46.680 --> 01:31:49.439 deeply identified with it, not being able to let go 1508 01:31:49.560 --> 01:31:51.760 or seeing a way to empower ourselves out of it, 1509 01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:54.840 to choose something else. So there are many traps in it, 1510 01:31:54.880 --> 01:31:59.039 but I do see that My base, my approach and 1511 01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:03.039 my view is that that of conscious evolution. That the game, 1512 01:32:03.279 --> 01:32:07.399 the main game in town, is the evolution of consciousness. 1513 01:32:07.840 --> 01:32:11.520 So that means the evolution of one's awareness being and 1514 01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:17.560 one's one's ability to merge with everything, to discern between everything, 1515 01:32:17.640 --> 01:32:19.560 to be able to tell all these notes, and then 1516 01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:24.159 to start creating within it all right, tapping into the 1517 01:32:24.199 --> 01:32:28.680 creative source within, to God, to source, being informed by that, 1518 01:32:29.039 --> 01:32:32.319 but also being allowed not only to be used as 1519 01:32:32.359 --> 01:32:36.560 a as a conscious tool, but also making those choices 1520 01:32:36.600 --> 01:32:40.560 to serve reality and really and to do so. We 1521 01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:43.760 will encounter resistance at any time, and that resistance, it 1522 01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:47.640 is part of this. Especially in the physical realm. Resistance 1523 01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:48.600 is super important. 1524 01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:48.800 Right. 1525 01:32:48.840 --> 01:32:52.720 Resistance is basically like a container, because consciousness or any 1526 01:32:52.720 --> 01:32:57.760 form of energy uncontained with no laws of functioning, is 1527 01:32:57.920 --> 01:33:01.840 just a meebis and not formed. But for whatever reason, however, 1528 01:33:01.880 --> 01:33:04.319 this realm was formed. It has all these various laws 1529 01:33:04.319 --> 01:33:07.199 and we're inferring them based on the feedback it gives 1530 01:33:07.279 --> 01:33:10.399 us from our actions, and so it is fascinating. So 1531 01:33:10.439 --> 01:33:14.520 something like what happens if right, let's say, COVID is 1532 01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:16.760 a great example with such a great case study the 1533 01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:20.479 COVID moment. It's like, what happens if there's an exertion 1534 01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:25.479 of power using fear and then limiting your movement and 1535 01:33:25.640 --> 01:33:28.039 basically forcing you to do certain things to your body 1536 01:33:28.039 --> 01:33:31.920 that you may not want to. Well, if one says, okay, 1537 01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:34.560 let me take a step back because I don't know better. 1538 01:33:34.840 --> 01:33:38.239 This is confusing, and someone outside of me knows better, 1539 01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:42.239 they retreat, well, the next action that occurs in reality 1540 01:33:42.359 --> 01:33:46.520 is more of the same and even worse. And then basically, 1541 01:33:46.520 --> 01:33:48.199 you know, like an invasion of your body and an 1542 01:33:48.239 --> 01:33:52.119 invasion of your willpower, taking away of resources. And so 1543 01:33:52.199 --> 01:33:54.119 what we infer from that action is like, oh, okay, 1544 01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:56.520 so when I give away my power, I get more 1545 01:33:56.560 --> 01:33:58.960 and more stepped on. Now how do I claim my 1546 01:33:59.039 --> 01:34:02.079 power here? This is it actually being forced on me 1547 01:34:02.159 --> 01:34:05.359 with a gun in on my head? Or am I 1548 01:34:05.520 --> 01:34:08.640 willingly retreating and then saying someone is doing it to me? 1549 01:34:09.199 --> 01:34:11.920 So all these dynamics start becoming more and more clear, 1550 01:34:11.960 --> 01:34:17.520 and at this level of heightened just heighten activity right now, 1551 01:34:17.560 --> 01:34:20.279 between the dark and light, we're seeing a lot of 1552 01:34:20.319 --> 01:34:23.359 these laws, like very very vividly, And here's where we 1553 01:34:23.359 --> 01:34:26.720 can start choosing to empower ourselves through action, new deed, 1554 01:34:26.840 --> 01:34:28.279 new emotions, new thoughts. 1555 01:34:28.680 --> 01:34:36.119 It seems like there are different polarities that really act 1556 01:34:36.279 --> 01:34:41.319 as the intelligences, the light and dark, the angels and 1557 01:34:41.439 --> 01:34:45.279 the demons, that these polarities are there for us to 1558 01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:49.359 learn from and bounce off of each other and have 1559 01:34:49.399 --> 01:34:52.760 that dark experience and learn from it. Never do that again. 1560 01:34:53.119 --> 01:34:55.000 Then you bounce back to the light, and you have 1561 01:34:55.560 --> 01:35:00.399 this ongoing journey bouncing off of those polarities. But what 1562 01:35:00.439 --> 01:35:06.920 we consider demonic forces arcons are just these negative polarities 1563 01:35:07.039 --> 01:35:11.079 that people get stuck in, they get attracted to, and 1564 01:35:11.439 --> 01:35:16.279 they find it difficult to come out of that dark experience. 1565 01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:20.800 But it's all here for us to experience and learn from. 1566 01:35:20.840 --> 01:35:26.319 Would you agree, Yeah, absolutely agree with that totally. Yeah, 1567 01:35:26.439 --> 01:35:30.199 it's I know, it can get very confusing and frustrating. 1568 01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:32.680 And some of these temptations that we get from these 1569 01:35:32.760 --> 01:35:39.159 darker forces are Yeah, they really act on our They 1570 01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:41.159 act on our the parts of us that we have 1571 01:35:41.279 --> 01:35:46.920 not clarified and not purified, right, and so something they 1572 01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:52.319 tug on parts of our unconscious that we then react 1573 01:35:52.319 --> 01:35:58.119 to and perhaps once so purpose can be to explore 1574 01:35:58.159 --> 01:36:00.880 that for a lifetime. And this is me supposing you know, 1575 01:36:00.920 --> 01:36:03.560 I don't know this for sure, but as I feel 1576 01:36:03.640 --> 01:36:06.159 into it, I feel some of us just need to 1577 01:36:06.319 --> 01:36:11.279 experience that. Yea, yeah, some of that darkness and be 1578 01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:13.199 lost in it for a bit and learn how to 1579 01:36:13.239 --> 01:36:15.920 get out of it. So it's not fully just a 1580 01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:19.439 terrible thing. Yeah, it can curse you in a way, 1581 01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:22.760 but it's that climbing out of it. And we all 1582 01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:26.680 know to various degrees how we can drown in something 1583 01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:30.479 like an addiction or a bad pathway. We know some 1584 01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:33.520 of the kind of like the juiciness that it feeds 1585 01:36:33.560 --> 01:36:36.760 us something there's a negative pleasure in it, but we 1586 01:36:36.800 --> 01:36:39.279 also know that it's taking away our goodness, is taking 1587 01:36:39.279 --> 01:36:42.640 away our autonomy, taking away something that's good, and yet 1588 01:36:42.680 --> 01:36:45.920 it gives something back, and there's a tradeoff. There always 1589 01:36:45.960 --> 01:36:48.760 is a trade off. But then at one point we 1590 01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:52.119 have to make amends with it and climb back out, 1591 01:36:52.119 --> 01:36:55.439 and that's where the soul gets forged. It becomes stronger 1592 01:36:55.479 --> 01:37:00.600 and more purified, and those attachments can no longer, you know, 1593 01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:04.039 tantalize or tempt that part of our soul otherwise can. 1594 01:37:04.840 --> 01:37:06.000 But then the game changes. 1595 01:37:06.399 --> 01:37:08.640 Now. I don't want to give too much away about 1596 01:37:08.680 --> 01:37:12.520 your film, but one of my favorite parts is how 1597 01:37:12.560 --> 01:37:16.960 you portrayed that even what we consider to be the 1598 01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:22.359 lizard people arconic human forces that control us, the media, 1599 01:37:22.640 --> 01:37:27.600 the politicians, the global leaders that we see as demonic forces, 1600 01:37:28.439 --> 01:37:32.640 can even find that light that they even the darkest 1601 01:37:32.720 --> 01:37:37.760 of a human soul, can come to awareness and find 1602 01:37:37.840 --> 01:37:41.399 truth and beauty and light and turn themselves around, even 1603 01:37:41.479 --> 01:37:44.640 the darkest, most lost of souls. And that was that 1604 01:37:44.760 --> 01:37:46.920 was one of my favorite favorite parts I saw that. 1605 01:37:48.359 --> 01:37:50.640 Chris apologies. It seems like I didn't know that this 1606 01:37:50.760 --> 01:37:53.560 was my dog, but it was parking. Yeah, I thought 1607 01:37:53.560 --> 01:37:56.560 it was your dog. I'm gonna have to do some 1608 01:37:57.039 --> 01:38:02.640 no problem, man, that was I'm sorry that was getting juicy. Yeah, 1609 01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:05.760 I'm actually at my girlfriend. I'm at my girlfriend's house 1610 01:38:05.800 --> 01:38:07.960 and I was like, is that because the mic? 1611 01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:10.159 I'm like, is that way it always happens? Man, you 1612 01:38:10.199 --> 01:38:13.760 get into the juicies, there's interference, there's always. 1613 01:38:13.920 --> 01:38:17.000 Always, right, I think. So, I'm telling you because he 1614 01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:18.000 doesn't usually do this. 1615 01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:20.399 It's just the way things work. I've come to see. 1616 01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:22.680 It's crazy. But yeah, we could just pick up from there. 1617 01:38:22.720 --> 01:38:25.640 I was asking you about your video. I was talking 1618 01:38:25.680 --> 01:38:29.359 about how even the worst, the most black hearted of 1619 01:38:29.600 --> 01:38:32.119 people can find the light and come around. 1620 01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:37.680 Yeah, yeah, that is the hope, right, and I spoke 1621 01:38:37.720 --> 01:38:40.239 to someone recently and he asked me if I think 1622 01:38:40.279 --> 01:38:44.119 that is everyone redeemable, And you know, it's a very 1623 01:38:44.199 --> 01:38:47.640 rosy colored kind of view, and one would hope that 1624 01:38:47.640 --> 01:38:50.319 that is the case. I mean, at the end of 1625 01:38:50.359 --> 01:38:52.720 the day, this is this is very long term, and 1626 01:38:52.720 --> 01:38:55.079 maybe it's not a practical thing to share, but it's 1627 01:38:55.159 --> 01:38:56.840 I think it's a reality. At the end of the day, 1628 01:38:56.920 --> 01:39:01.039 we all merge back into the one being, so everything 1629 01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:04.920 will be recycled one way or another into that being. 1630 01:39:04.960 --> 01:39:08.960 But as human beings, I'd like to hold the vision 1631 01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:11.479 as an artist. That's why I'm presenting it in Kingdom. 1632 01:39:11.520 --> 01:39:16.319 I presented the vision of the possibility of that redemption 1633 01:39:17.119 --> 01:39:20.039 because by doing so, even if it's not true, even 1634 01:39:20.079 --> 01:39:22.039 if some people are too far gone, which I do 1635 01:39:22.119 --> 01:39:25.520 think is the case, by holding that vision and that ability, 1636 01:39:25.560 --> 01:39:28.560 we soften something in the field, we soften something in 1637 01:39:28.640 --> 01:39:35.279 ourselves toward others. And because most of what I see 1638 01:39:35.319 --> 01:39:38.840 as a phenomenon in the real world is just downstream 1639 01:39:39.039 --> 01:39:42.840 from the invisible, from the spiritual hierarchies, from the spiritual realms, 1640 01:39:44.239 --> 01:39:46.640 what does that imply in this situation. What it means 1641 01:39:46.720 --> 01:39:50.520 is that the feelings and projections and thought forms we 1642 01:39:50.640 --> 01:39:54.720 hold of any one event or of another person does 1643 01:39:57.239 --> 01:40:01.840 function and maintaining that person or that event close to 1644 01:40:01.920 --> 01:40:05.560 what we are putting into it. Not that it's not 1645 01:40:05.600 --> 01:40:08.279 that we're creating the event or the human but our 1646 01:40:08.319 --> 01:40:13.520 interactions are always informed and our experiences informed by our 1647 01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:16.640 unconscious assumptions and the way we approach something. And we 1648 01:40:16.680 --> 01:40:19.600 can all, you know, to use a simple example, we've 1649 01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:21.640 all been, I'm sure, in a situation where we've had 1650 01:40:22.159 --> 01:40:25.119 a quarrel with someone, a neighbor or family friend, a 1651 01:40:25.239 --> 01:40:29.159 love partner, and if we had the lucidity or some 1652 01:40:29.199 --> 01:40:32.800 sort of shift the psychedelic experience and seeing something and 1653 01:40:32.840 --> 01:40:35.840 you know, softening, letting some of the tension and relaxing 1654 01:40:35.880 --> 01:40:38.920 and giving the benefit of doubt, we see the other 1655 01:40:39.079 --> 01:40:42.039 soften too. Now that's, yes, a psychological reaction, but there's 1656 01:40:42.039 --> 01:40:44.760 an underlying energetic reaction. Sometimes you don't even have to 1657 01:40:44.800 --> 01:40:47.840 speak to the person, you get a phone call, you 1658 01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:51.600 get a change from them. So what that implies is 1659 01:40:51.640 --> 01:40:55.479 that the way that we project toward the world, where 1660 01:40:55.640 --> 01:40:58.880 if we are in a doomer heads you know, headspace, 1661 01:40:58.960 --> 01:41:01.319 which we can all fall into. The more research with 1662 01:41:01.399 --> 01:41:02.960 two the more we look in the world, it's not 1663 01:41:03.439 --> 01:41:06.000 difficult to fall into a doom or headspace. But if 1664 01:41:06.039 --> 01:41:10.920 we do that, we are effectively functioning as living nodes, 1665 01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:15.800 as offline servers for the dark forces by constantly reprojecting 1666 01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:21.720 their plans, their ideas, and this apocalyptic scenario of the 1667 01:41:21.720 --> 01:41:24.159 world that everything is terrible, that there's no hope, that 1668 01:41:24.199 --> 01:41:27.760 we're powerless, and we're actually enacting the exact thing that 1669 01:41:27.800 --> 01:41:30.640 we fail. We're rebelling against. So when we say are 1670 01:41:30.680 --> 01:41:34.359 these people redeemable, we can be very vigilant, very wise, 1671 01:41:35.520 --> 01:41:39.880 and be very powerful in ourselves and at the same 1672 01:41:39.920 --> 01:41:42.479 time we can give some compassion and allowance for those people. 1673 01:41:42.479 --> 01:41:45.159 It doesn't mean that we bend over backwards. It's just 1674 01:41:45.199 --> 01:41:47.920 like it is possible for some people to go so 1675 01:41:48.119 --> 01:41:53.439 far down and that there can be forgiveness. Of course, 1676 01:41:53.439 --> 01:41:56.960 there can also be rightful punishment. That's part of the 1677 01:41:56.960 --> 01:42:01.159 cosmic cosmic laws. But you know, if we look at 1678 01:42:01.159 --> 01:42:07.399 something like blackmailing and just the blackmail economy that is 1679 01:42:07.439 --> 01:42:09.479 getting more and more exposed, a lot of us have 1680 01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:11.960 known about it, it's just hard to believe for many people, 1681 01:42:12.720 --> 01:42:15.359 right and now it's becoming more and more exposed with 1682 01:42:15.439 --> 01:42:19.159 actual factual data. You know, we just even like the 1683 01:42:19.199 --> 01:42:22.079 obvious cases being diddy and you know, Epstein et cetera. 1684 01:42:22.159 --> 01:42:23.840 Those are the more mainstream things. But we know a 1685 01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:28.800 lot more, and we know so some of us know. 1686 01:42:29.199 --> 01:42:34.279 You know, people who are made mistakes or were given 1687 01:42:34.319 --> 01:42:37.680 the wrong kind of drugs and you know, put in 1688 01:42:37.720 --> 01:42:41.479 a very terrible situation which was recorded where they were 1689 01:42:41.560 --> 01:42:45.720 possibly unconscious, and that then was used to bring them 1690 01:42:45.840 --> 01:42:50.279 deeper and deeper into darker and worse aspects of complicity, 1691 01:42:50.319 --> 01:42:54.479 whether they voted for terrible bills or wars or worse things. 1692 01:42:54.520 --> 01:42:59.600 You know, those people out I have some sympathy for. 1693 01:43:00.079 --> 01:43:02.600 And because there are many strange cases that have happened, 1694 01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:04.880 then this is a big game and many are ensnared. 1695 01:43:06.560 --> 01:43:08.680 Hello friends, If you are a loved one has been 1696 01:43:08.720 --> 01:43:11.800 struggling with a chronic or complex health problem and have 1697 01:43:11.880 --> 01:43:15.079 been disappointed with the level of care available, get in 1698 01:43:15.159 --> 01:43:18.600 touch with my friend Christian Jordanov by booking a free 1699 01:43:18.640 --> 01:43:24.000 intro call. 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This is the power of the functional health 1724 01:45:14.039 --> 01:45:17.720 paradigm that Christian will help you implement. So, if you've 1725 01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:22.600 been suffering with gut problems like constipation, gas, bloating pain, 1726 01:45:23.279 --> 01:45:27.479 or you're battling burnout chronic fatigue, you have mood issues 1727 01:45:27.920 --> 01:45:32.560 brain fog, low libido, poor sleep, or you're having trouble 1728 01:45:32.680 --> 01:45:37.199 losing weight and taking control of your cravings, diet and routines, 1729 01:45:37.800 --> 01:45:42.000 there are solutions. Book your free intro call with Christian 1730 01:45:42.159 --> 01:45:45.119 using the link in the description to discuss your situation 1731 01:45:45.720 --> 01:45:48.720 and see how he can help you transform your health. 1732 01:45:49.399 --> 01:45:53.079 So it's so difficult when you first start to awaken 1733 01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:58.600 to realize that you have been complicent, that you've contributed 1734 01:45:58.680 --> 01:46:02.119 to the overall state that we're in, and you always have. 1735 01:46:02.720 --> 01:46:05.880 You've always bought their products, you've always consumed their food, 1736 01:46:06.279 --> 01:46:11.439 You've participated in ridiculous agendas, you consume their media, and 1737 01:46:11.680 --> 01:46:15.760 you perpetuate everything that is caused in the darkness. That's 1738 01:46:15.800 --> 01:46:18.399 surrounding you. And that's the hardest part for people is 1739 01:46:18.439 --> 01:46:21.399 to say, wait, I'm a huge cause of this. I 1740 01:46:21.439 --> 01:46:25.239 need to check out in order to start rebuilding my 1741 01:46:25.359 --> 01:46:26.720 own systems. 1742 01:46:26.279 --> 01:46:31.840 Right, yeah, totally yeah, And it's I think it's so important, 1743 01:46:32.239 --> 01:46:35.199 just like we can see in a relationship, our relationship 1744 01:46:35.279 --> 01:46:37.960 to the world at large, is taking responsibility for it. 1745 01:46:38.399 --> 01:46:41.079 And you know, people can say, well, I didn't start 1746 01:46:41.079 --> 01:46:43.680 these wars, I'm not manipulating people, I'm not spying on people, 1747 01:46:43.680 --> 01:46:47.800 I'm not destroying the economy, right, but all of us 1748 01:46:47.840 --> 01:46:51.520 are participating in enabling it through. If it wasn't if 1749 01:46:51.520 --> 01:46:54.479 it didn't pass through us through our choices, not saying 1750 01:46:54.479 --> 01:46:56.720 it's easy to move away from these choices, it wouldn't 1751 01:46:56.720 --> 01:47:01.119 not be happening. And if we don't take responsibility and 1752 01:47:01.119 --> 01:47:04.279 we just dissolve that and blame the outside world, then 1753 01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:06.479 literally change cannot have. 1754 01:47:06.479 --> 01:47:08.920 Something see for me, just when I become aware of 1755 01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:12.600 a problem or something that doesn't serve me, it's going 1756 01:47:12.680 --> 01:47:15.760 to kill me and destroy me inside. Until I fix 1757 01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:20.680 that problem or adjust to something or make the situation right, 1758 01:47:20.880 --> 01:47:23.439 I'm not going to be able to just keep going 1759 01:47:24.000 --> 01:47:26.880 having the awareness that something's wrong. And I think that's 1760 01:47:26.920 --> 01:47:31.239 what's happening collectively. We're all aware now that there's a problem, 1761 01:47:31.640 --> 01:47:34.560 and it's getting harder and harder to just sit back 1762 01:47:34.680 --> 01:47:38.159 and let that problem keep growing and unfolding now that 1763 01:47:38.239 --> 01:47:39.399 we know about it. 1764 01:47:39.359 --> 01:47:44.159 Right, Yeah, yeah, totally. And then we come had to 1765 01:47:44.199 --> 01:47:46.800 have with the very difficult aspect that many of us 1766 01:47:46.840 --> 01:47:49.439 contend with, which is I have to do something about 1767 01:47:49.479 --> 01:47:53.239 it now. And that doesn't mean going to fight it, 1768 01:47:53.279 --> 01:47:55.600 but some means I need to change something in my life. 1769 01:47:55.600 --> 01:47:59.199 I need to maybe learn to farm, make a homestead, 1770 01:47:59.319 --> 01:48:01.880 or learn to be kinder to the people around me, 1771 01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:04.439 or be more loving, or make amends with my family 1772 01:48:04.479 --> 01:48:06.800 so that we're closer when we have a community, and 1773 01:48:06.880 --> 01:48:11.239 those things they're not easy right because of everything inside us. 1774 01:48:11.239 --> 01:48:13.640 And I think that's where we are right now, because 1775 01:48:14.479 --> 01:48:16.680 we would like for someone to fix it for us, 1776 01:48:16.760 --> 01:48:20.359 someone to come and rescue the situation. We would like 1777 01:48:20.439 --> 01:48:22.119 to blame and just say, you know, I'm not going 1778 01:48:22.159 --> 01:48:24.880 to do anything because they should fix it. They started it. 1779 01:48:25.640 --> 01:48:29.920 But reality again is reflecting to us more and more 1780 01:48:29.960 --> 01:48:32.439 and more apparent and clear ways that it's like unless 1781 01:48:32.479 --> 01:48:36.159 you do something, it will not change. And so in 1782 01:48:36.239 --> 01:48:40.239 Kingdom and this new short film. That's one of the 1783 01:48:40.279 --> 01:48:44.159 things that I wanted to bring forth symbolically through this man, 1784 01:48:45.159 --> 01:48:48.199 you know, taking down, taking off his blindfold, his muzzle 1785 01:48:48.279 --> 01:48:51.479 so he can express and see clearly and then clear 1786 01:48:51.600 --> 01:48:55.720 himself internally face his own darkness, and through that have 1787 01:48:55.800 --> 01:49:00.880 then the courage and the clarity to get up from 1788 01:49:00.920 --> 01:49:03.479 his knees, and not only that, but then to walk 1789 01:49:03.520 --> 01:49:06.880 toward his empowerment to take the sword, and all those 1790 01:49:06.920 --> 01:49:09.960 things are basically emblematic to It could be something as 1791 01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:13.199 simple as today, I'm going to go to the gym. 1792 01:49:13.279 --> 01:49:15.520 I'm very attracted to that woman. I'm going to ask 1793 01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:17.760 her out because I want a good woman in my life. 1794 01:49:17.840 --> 01:49:21.119 Let's say those are actions that take courage, and it's 1795 01:49:21.199 --> 01:49:25.279 little actions compounded like that that lead to a real 1796 01:49:25.319 --> 01:49:29.960 life of purpose. And unless we're doing it all starts 1797 01:49:29.960 --> 01:49:32.760 really with these small actions. Truly, it is daily small actions. 1798 01:49:32.760 --> 01:49:35.760 It's not big feats. It's only when we are capable 1799 01:49:35.800 --> 01:49:40.960 and competent in taking these small actions appropriately competently that 1800 01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:45.800 we're given bigger challenges that we can overcome. Right, So, yeah, 1801 01:49:45.800 --> 01:49:48.960 it's all about the reality of Okay, we have to 1802 01:49:49.079 --> 01:49:53.159 upgrade harmonize at a higher level. That's what evolution is 1803 01:49:53.159 --> 01:49:55.640 asking us, or the dark force will take over us. 1804 01:49:55.800 --> 01:49:57.880 And you know earlier you mentioned this dance. I wanted 1805 01:49:57.920 --> 01:50:00.920 to say that it is a it feels to me 1806 01:50:01.079 --> 01:50:03.600 like a dance of overtaking. The darkness will seem to 1807 01:50:03.640 --> 01:50:07.640 want to overtake, and then that leads into the other 1808 01:50:07.720 --> 01:50:10.600 lighter aspect finding new ways to then harmonize on a 1809 01:50:10.640 --> 01:50:13.520 higher level. So it's not being able to be overtaken 1810 01:50:13.960 --> 01:50:16.880 and then again and again. Presumably I don't know if 1811 01:50:16.880 --> 01:50:19.239 that goes on forever, but we are in the dance 1812 01:50:19.359 --> 01:50:19.640 right now. 1813 01:50:19.800 --> 01:50:19.920 Now. 1814 01:50:20.039 --> 01:50:22.479 There's a couple of things that this can get into. 1815 01:50:23.079 --> 01:50:28.279 One is the concept of NPCs, and this really can 1816 01:50:28.319 --> 01:50:32.399 be a dangerous topic depending on your perspective of what 1817 01:50:32.760 --> 01:50:37.479 an NPC is. But our whole reality, we're looking at 1818 01:50:37.520 --> 01:50:41.359 it from a very technological lens because that's the era 1819 01:50:41.520 --> 01:50:45.600 we're in. We're comparing our reality to a simulation, to 1820 01:50:45.680 --> 01:50:48.840 a video game, because that is what we're surrounded with 1821 01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:54.640 and that's our culture right now. But to completely dismiss 1822 01:50:54.800 --> 01:50:59.039 that someone is a human being with a soul connected 1823 01:50:59.119 --> 01:51:03.159 to sore that that's all they've ever been and they're 1824 01:51:03.239 --> 01:51:06.800 just part of the system. I believe is something is 1825 01:51:06.920 --> 01:51:10.439 a way of thinking that we shouldn't because anyone, I believe, 1826 01:51:10.920 --> 01:51:14.279 can come online and get that spark back. Yeah you might. 1827 01:51:15.079 --> 01:51:17.840 Any I could become. I was part of the system 1828 01:51:17.880 --> 01:51:21.279 for a very long time. I was sleeping, I was participating. 1829 01:51:21.880 --> 01:51:24.520 I was a scumbag for a while, and then all 1830 01:51:24.560 --> 01:51:27.600 of a sudden, my heart opens up and boom, I'm 1831 01:51:27.640 --> 01:51:30.479 not part of the program anymore. And I just like 1832 01:51:30.520 --> 01:51:32.840 we're saying with the bad guys, is could happen to 1833 01:51:32.960 --> 01:51:35.800 each and every one of us, even the person you 1834 01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:37.239 think who is an NBC. 1835 01:51:39.560 --> 01:51:42.920 Yeah, yeah, well said that's and congratulations on your journey 1836 01:51:42.920 --> 01:51:48.279 of popping out of the illusion. Yeah that's amazing. Yeah, 1837 01:51:48.359 --> 01:51:51.560 I agree, right, because it's tempting in our frustration and 1838 01:51:51.640 --> 01:51:56.119 anger and seeing the I would even say, some of 1839 01:51:56.119 --> 01:51:58.399 the atrocities that are happening more and more in our 1840 01:51:58.399 --> 01:52:02.720 in our world to be looking at people and accusing 1841 01:52:02.760 --> 01:52:09.079 them of being soulless and NPCs, And it's interesting. So I, 1842 01:52:09.199 --> 01:52:11.720 like you, I would like to grant everyone the dignity 1843 01:52:12.079 --> 01:52:15.560 of being able to awaken the soul, and that by 1844 01:52:15.640 --> 01:52:19.960 holding the vision, we allow that for them. Now, we 1845 01:52:20.119 --> 01:52:24.920 can be condemning of human actions, and of course we 1846 01:52:25.199 --> 01:52:28.479 have to be, because there are terrible actions that human 1847 01:52:28.520 --> 01:52:32.920 stake that are repugnant and are stifling of freedom and liberty, etc. 1848 01:52:34.840 --> 01:52:37.920 But we can then also respect the soul spark of 1849 01:52:37.960 --> 01:52:41.359 that human having the experience to choose to act in 1850 01:52:41.399 --> 01:52:45.239 a very shitty and terrible way in a way tarnish 1851 01:52:45.239 --> 01:52:47.359 their own soul because they will have to climb out 1852 01:52:47.359 --> 01:52:50.439 of it one way or another. So that's actually sinking 1853 01:52:50.479 --> 01:52:54.039 into a greater hole. And I think a lot of 1854 01:52:54.239 --> 01:52:58.079 more elevated humans do see the tragedy of beings going 1855 01:52:58.079 --> 01:53:01.359 into darkness because they know the plot that they will 1856 01:53:01.399 --> 01:53:06.279 have to go to exit. At the same time, we 1857 01:53:06.399 --> 01:53:09.600 do have a lot of NPC thinking and behaving in 1858 01:53:09.640 --> 01:53:12.920 our world. So you know, I would admit there's an 1859 01:53:13.079 --> 01:53:17.640 NPC aspect to me because I have not cleared you know, 1860 01:53:17.880 --> 01:53:20.439 I have not cleared all of the unconscious impulses in me. 1861 01:53:21.159 --> 01:53:26.319 And ultimately we're biological animals which get insold in the 1862 01:53:26.399 --> 01:53:30.520 soul substance. If we work on it, it takes us 1863 01:53:30.560 --> 01:53:32.199 higher to connect to spirit. 1864 01:53:32.319 --> 01:53:32.520 Right. 1865 01:53:32.520 --> 01:53:36.880 The soul is the intermediary, so but our material biological 1866 01:53:36.920 --> 01:53:39.960 life form has all these instincts. There are animalistic aspects 1867 01:53:39.960 --> 01:53:43.560 that also put us in fight or flight alarm us 1868 01:53:43.560 --> 01:53:46.079 so that we can survive and have our vessel be intact, 1869 01:53:46.159 --> 01:53:49.960 so that the soul can continue inhabiting this place. And 1870 01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:53.680 so all these patterns do create NPCs of us to 1871 01:53:53.720 --> 01:53:56.439 some degree because we are slaves to certain impulses that 1872 01:53:56.479 --> 01:53:58.920 we're used to, and if we don't consider them to 1873 01:53:59.239 --> 01:54:02.760 rewire ourselves, we keep going down these same loops of 1874 01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:07.319 behavior because they feel safe, they feel familiar. That's the 1875 01:54:07.319 --> 01:54:12.039 spiritual journey of the hero the heroic lifestyle is we 1876 01:54:12.159 --> 01:54:15.000 challenge those patterns that are comfortable. We step out of 1877 01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:19.479 that discomfort and we move into a more expended way 1878 01:54:19.520 --> 01:54:22.039 of being. And a lot of most times that is 1879 01:54:22.039 --> 01:54:25.399 a difficult proposition because we step out of the comfort 1880 01:54:25.399 --> 01:54:29.640 of belonging sometimes unfortunately family, friends, and society, and that's 1881 01:54:29.640 --> 01:54:33.039 no easy task, or the comfort of feeling safe in 1882 01:54:33.039 --> 01:54:36.159 a pattern of working a certain safe job that provides 1883 01:54:36.199 --> 01:54:40.560 of having saved friends that are not fulfilling, etc. And 1884 01:54:40.640 --> 01:54:45.960 it takes an act of courage and faith to not 1885 01:54:46.039 --> 01:54:48.960 be an NPC and go through the same movements and 1886 01:54:49.079 --> 01:54:52.840 actually choose differently but with each different choice, like we 1887 01:54:52.840 --> 01:54:55.920 were saying, a greater life emerges. 1888 01:54:56.800 --> 01:55:01.560 There's something very interesting happening with the quote unquote truth 1889 01:55:01.680 --> 01:55:06.520 or conspiracy spiritual community right now. As it pertains to 1890 01:55:06.680 --> 01:55:11.479 feeling safe about things, there's a portion of this community 1891 01:55:11.640 --> 01:55:16.720 that is still stuck in a conspiratorial box and they 1892 01:55:16.840 --> 01:55:20.680 crave the doom and gloom and the belief that the 1893 01:55:20.720 --> 01:55:26.159 apocalypse is right around the corner, and they are perpetuating 1894 01:55:26.239 --> 01:55:30.079 this doom and gloom information. They're sharing just the wackiest 1895 01:55:30.119 --> 01:55:34.239 conspiracy videos. I used to love conspiracy the I started 1896 01:55:34.239 --> 01:55:38.199 this show because I was into conspiracies. Now I can't 1897 01:55:38.199 --> 01:55:42.279 stand the culture. It's gone crazy and it makes no 1898 01:55:42.439 --> 01:55:45.720 sense half the time the stuff that they're trying to present. 1899 01:55:46.239 --> 01:55:51.439 So it's very interesting that because these people, certain people 1900 01:55:51.520 --> 01:55:55.399 in this community want to feel safe, they are reaching 1901 01:55:55.439 --> 01:55:59.840 for the most dangerous and unsafe material to latch on. 1902 01:56:00.319 --> 01:56:03.720 It's very interesting, Yeah. 1903 01:56:03.520 --> 01:56:06.279 It is. It's really wild, and I think we're going 1904 01:56:06.319 --> 01:56:08.720 to see more and more of this fracturing of reality, 1905 01:56:08.800 --> 01:56:13.479 specifically with AI deep fakes and all the AI generative. Yeah, 1906 01:56:13.479 --> 01:56:16.640 because all these reality tunnels are popping up, and you know, 1907 01:56:16.760 --> 01:56:21.479 I would say that facing reality. We need to constantly 1908 01:56:21.520 --> 01:56:24.920 be readjusting and going into uncomfortable places. So that's basically 1909 01:56:25.039 --> 01:56:28.520 being comfortable with being uncomfortable is the key. But as 1910 01:56:28.560 --> 01:56:31.439 soon as we latch onto, you know, with conspiratorial culture, 1911 01:56:31.479 --> 01:56:34.079 and you probably can attest to this, I've gone through 1912 01:56:34.079 --> 01:56:38.079 this feeling the specialness of having some exclusive information on 1913 01:56:38.119 --> 01:56:40.520 the world, you know, and being like they don't know, 1914 01:56:40.720 --> 01:56:43.239 but I might, my guys know. And as soon as 1915 01:56:43.239 --> 01:56:46.159 more people start learning, you don't feel as special and 1916 01:56:46.199 --> 01:56:50.000 you might move on to something more outrageous, perhaps maybe real, 1917 01:56:50.079 --> 01:56:53.359 mark maybe not. And so that's basically a sign that 1918 01:56:53.399 --> 01:56:55.600 we are not really doing the full inner work, that 1919 01:56:55.640 --> 01:57:00.279 we are latching onto stories that give us some sort 1920 01:57:00.279 --> 01:57:03.560 of reward. Again, the story itself could be real or not, 1921 01:57:03.640 --> 01:57:06.680 it doesn't matter. It's our relationship to it. And that's 1922 01:57:06.720 --> 01:57:09.439 where we can become more fanatical. We can start excluding 1923 01:57:09.479 --> 01:57:13.319 others so that we can aggrandize and elevate ourselves. And 1924 01:57:13.359 --> 01:57:15.359 if we're playing that game, then we're playing the game 1925 01:57:15.399 --> 01:57:19.399 of darkness, ignorance and unconsciousness. Doesn't matter how many facts 1926 01:57:19.479 --> 01:57:24.159 we know about these families or this alternative history or 1927 01:57:24.239 --> 01:57:27.640 you know, it's like, sure, you can we can know 1928 01:57:27.640 --> 01:57:29.960 all that information. But if we are not acting out 1929 01:57:30.039 --> 01:57:34.720 in the world with the embodied self, of presence, of expansion, 1930 01:57:34.800 --> 01:57:37.920 of really open, being open to what is here, then 1931 01:57:37.920 --> 01:57:41.880 we're not playing the game. We're just functioning as me 1932 01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:46.800 believe it or not, as another form of elevated NPC. Yeah. 1933 01:57:46.920 --> 01:57:50.239 Now, but there also seems to be a level of 1934 01:57:50.279 --> 01:57:54.319 this hundredth monkey effect right now where I've noticed this. 1935 01:57:54.479 --> 01:57:58.880 I'll come to a profound realization by myself in the 1936 01:57:58.920 --> 01:58:02.520 comfort of my own and I'll be ready to go 1937 01:58:02.600 --> 01:58:04.560 on the show and talk about it. And then the 1938 01:58:04.600 --> 01:58:08.640 next day everyone's already just talking about this realization that 1939 01:58:08.760 --> 01:58:11.920 I thought was such a personal, profound thing to me, 1940 01:58:12.079 --> 01:58:14.760 and everyone all of a sudden is just knows it. 1941 01:58:15.239 --> 01:58:17.399 And this is happening more and more, seems to be 1942 01:58:17.479 --> 01:58:22.359 happening quicker. So I think some connections are being reconnected 1943 01:58:22.520 --> 01:58:24.960 in this collective consciousness, if you know what I mean. 1944 01:58:26.960 --> 01:58:29.920 Yeah, totally. That's cool that you're having that experience. It's yeah, 1945 01:58:29.960 --> 01:58:33.479 it's interesting, it's a I'm tracking that mystery, and it's 1946 01:58:34.119 --> 01:58:37.279 it's frustrated me on an egoic level, you know, I'm 1947 01:58:37.319 --> 01:58:39.359 like I should have been expressing all these things earlier, 1948 01:58:39.359 --> 01:58:41.079 because now all these people are expressing it, and I 1949 01:58:41.119 --> 01:58:43.680 wanted this person to have the credit for that, you know, 1950 01:58:43.760 --> 01:58:47.159 to get the credit for that realization. But beyond that, 1951 01:58:47.279 --> 01:58:49.479 you know, because yeah, that's it's a satisfying thing, of 1952 01:58:49.479 --> 01:58:52.439 course to our human selves. But beyond that, it is interesting. 1953 01:58:52.600 --> 01:58:56.119 Something is moving through the field very quickly. You're right, 1954 01:58:56.760 --> 01:59:01.800 And I mean I see that as a positive sign 1955 01:59:02.039 --> 01:59:05.439 as long as we're still calibrated to discern, to not 1956 01:59:05.560 --> 01:59:10.600 be carried away by sheer excitement and dopamine rushes. But yeah, 1957 01:59:10.800 --> 01:59:14.479 it seems like more people are coming online, and the 1958 01:59:14.479 --> 01:59:19.000 good sign is that deception is not sticking. It's not 1959 01:59:19.039 --> 01:59:23.319 as sticky as it used to be. So yeah, I 1960 01:59:23.880 --> 01:59:26.760 wonder if we're moving into. 1961 01:59:27.000 --> 01:59:31.119 Well, it's also interesting because the more I figure out 1962 01:59:31.239 --> 01:59:34.720 about my life and my path and not only would 1963 01:59:34.720 --> 01:59:37.119 I want to do, but what I need and what 1964 01:59:37.279 --> 01:59:39.640 I was put here to do, the more I connect 1965 01:59:39.680 --> 01:59:44.039 with that. It seems like collectively, the more we're understanding 1966 01:59:44.159 --> 01:59:49.119 what we need to do as a human species, as 1967 01:59:49.159 --> 01:59:54.800 a collective, the more the individual comes to the awareness 1968 01:59:54.880 --> 01:59:59.880 of their connection to everything and understanding seems like now 1969 02:00:00.399 --> 02:00:07.119 the collective is also having this same coincidental growth because 1970 02:00:07.359 --> 02:00:09.159 of the individual awarenesses. 1971 02:00:11.479 --> 02:00:15.720 Mm hmmm. Yeah, So you mean like collective is benefiting 1972 02:00:15.760 --> 02:00:19.840 from the individual awakenings and it's transferring over. Yeah, it's 1973 02:00:19.920 --> 02:00:23.880 like Ruper childress more for genetic field theory. Yeah, and 1974 02:00:23.920 --> 02:00:26.880 I mean that's something that I've been like looking at 1975 02:00:26.920 --> 02:00:29.560 a lot and seeing and I think there there's a big, 1976 02:00:29.640 --> 02:00:33.960 big aspect of that actually happening. Indeed, which is why 1977 02:00:35.119 --> 02:00:39.000 you know, if we are to turn back into these 1978 02:00:39.159 --> 02:00:42.159 darker forces and the various ways that they manifest, seem 1979 02:00:42.199 --> 02:00:46.800 to be scrambling to to actually scramble the signal that 1980 02:00:46.880 --> 02:00:51.319 is that is being proliferated by exacerbating more and more 1981 02:00:51.359 --> 02:00:54.479 of our human differences and all these things we haven't 1982 02:00:54.520 --> 02:00:57.239 worked out yet to to create more of the chaos. 1983 02:00:57.319 --> 02:01:01.760 Because what would happen if more people come online and 1984 02:01:01.880 --> 02:01:08.960 actually are sovereign individual like actual individuals? Yeah, what happens? 1985 02:01:09.039 --> 02:01:13.479 Yeah, It's like when we go through our hero's journey 1986 02:01:13.560 --> 02:01:17.479 and heal our trauma and get on the correct path, 1987 02:01:18.000 --> 02:01:24.680 we become examples of something that everyone should want to achieve. 1988 02:01:25.159 --> 02:01:28.479 You put out that energy because you're happy you found 1989 02:01:28.520 --> 02:01:34.840 something that makes you less fearful. That gives you drive 1990 02:01:35.039 --> 02:01:37.399 to go to the next step, and people see that 1991 02:01:37.520 --> 02:01:40.960 and it's contagious and they end up wanting that and 1992 02:01:41.039 --> 02:01:43.720 it happens for them. And I think that's a huge 1993 02:01:43.800 --> 02:01:46.000 part of what's really unfolding right now. 1994 02:01:47.720 --> 02:01:51.520 Yeah, because a sign of actual evolution and empowerment is 1995 02:01:52.159 --> 02:01:54.760 how well are we able to show up for ourselves 1996 02:01:55.079 --> 02:01:58.279 in the world and then perhaps for others in times 1997 02:01:58.319 --> 02:02:01.520 of difficulty, but also in times of so If we 1998 02:02:01.560 --> 02:02:05.840 are not fulfilled human beings but are really bent on 1999 02:02:06.960 --> 02:02:10.960 consuming more and more dark information that feeds our pain, 2000 02:02:11.000 --> 02:02:15.199 body and our trauma, then we're not really part of 2001 02:02:15.199 --> 02:02:18.119 the solution, unfortunately. And I've played that game, you know, 2002 02:02:18.159 --> 02:02:22.000 I've played that game of disempowerment for quite some time 2003 02:02:22.079 --> 02:02:24.800 as I was going through my unveiling the darkness in 2004 02:02:24.840 --> 02:02:29.119 the world and figuring out the mechanism. But you're right, 2005 02:02:29.159 --> 02:02:33.119 it's like walking the walk walking what is it walking 2006 02:02:33.159 --> 02:02:37.000 to talk? Indeed, it is, it is, and it's not. 2007 02:02:37.720 --> 02:02:42.279 Obviously it's not easy because again I'll be I'll share 2008 02:02:42.319 --> 02:02:46.199 some biographical things like for a long time, still still 2009 02:02:46.239 --> 02:02:48.239 moving through a lot of stuff, but for a long 2010 02:02:48.279 --> 02:02:51.399 time I didn't have a baseline of what is it 2011 02:02:51.479 --> 02:02:53.239 like to be happy and fulfilled for me to go 2012 02:02:53.359 --> 02:02:56.319 into you know, it's like moving in that place was 2013 02:02:56.359 --> 02:02:58.680 not really modeled for me, based in my life and 2014 02:02:58.720 --> 02:03:02.000 my history and my upbringing. There were those moments, but 2015 02:03:02.159 --> 02:03:08.000 my nervous system would not allow joy in its pure 2016 02:03:08.119 --> 02:03:13.760 sense or fulfillment without criticism or concern about the future, 2017 02:03:14.039 --> 02:03:16.800 or even a sense of like, I'm not allowed to 2018 02:03:16.840 --> 02:03:19.600 feel good. So all those things that were holding me 2019 02:03:19.680 --> 02:03:24.560 back my lower nature were in the way. So bringing 2020 02:03:24.560 --> 02:03:26.399 this up because I have a lot of compassion for 2021 02:03:26.479 --> 02:03:29.399 all of our journeys, like we are anytime moving to 2022 02:03:29.439 --> 02:03:35.039 a higher state that's more harmonious and clear, we in 2023 02:03:35.079 --> 02:03:38.039 a way have to move into something we haven't felt 2024 02:03:38.119 --> 02:03:40.600 or experienced before. So we have to start imagining it, 2025 02:03:40.720 --> 02:03:45.199 we have to start expanding into it. Or if we're 2026 02:03:45.319 --> 02:03:50.800 blessed with being given that experience through plant medicines or 2027 02:03:51.640 --> 02:03:54.760 a transcendent experience in meditation or in a flow state 2028 02:03:54.920 --> 02:03:58.039 doing an activity that we love, it's very important in 2029 02:03:58.079 --> 02:04:01.159 those moments to really try to map the flavors of 2030 02:04:01.199 --> 02:04:03.439 the experience that we felt so that we can start 2031 02:04:03.800 --> 02:04:07.119 repeating and recreating it. Because like it or not. We 2032 02:04:07.199 --> 02:04:10.079 are biological creatures of pattern and we have to rewire 2033 02:04:10.159 --> 02:04:13.680 through repeating the same thing. And you know, we know 2034 02:04:13.800 --> 02:04:15.640 through the biology of belief, we know through all this 2035 02:04:15.760 --> 02:04:21.600 new work that's coming out that it's a game of 2036 02:04:21.640 --> 02:04:24.239 rewiring and repeating in a higher order. And if we 2037 02:04:24.560 --> 02:04:28.479 do repeat things that are of a lower order, any 2038 02:04:28.520 --> 02:04:32.840 of our addictions to negativity, even when it's righteousness, and 2039 02:04:32.920 --> 02:04:37.560 you know, they just feed on our energy and feed 2040 02:04:37.600 --> 02:04:40.479 on our creativity and feed us keep us in a 2041 02:04:40.600 --> 02:04:44.760 closed cycle that is disempowering and doesn't move us anywhere. 2042 02:04:44.840 --> 02:04:46.600 So at one point we have to let that go 2043 02:04:47.520 --> 02:04:51.960 and stretching to this higher thing that we have not experienced. 2044 02:04:52.359 --> 02:04:54.800 I want to get your thoughts on the nature of 2045 02:04:55.279 --> 02:05:01.039 profound spiritual contact experiences, encounters with intelligence and says I've 2046 02:05:01.079 --> 02:05:04.880 experienced this not only through meditation, but plant medicines, and 2047 02:05:05.039 --> 02:05:11.119 also recently very profound dream states and just altered type 2048 02:05:11.119 --> 02:05:15.159 of day dream states where I have this am in 2049 02:05:15.239 --> 02:05:18.399 touch with what I understand as my higher self, this 2050 02:05:18.880 --> 02:05:23.760 ultimate intelligence that really is connected to that field and 2051 02:05:24.439 --> 02:05:28.920 provides a lot of information. But during some of the 2052 02:05:28.960 --> 02:05:32.760 most profound experiences that I've had in that moment when 2053 02:05:32.800 --> 02:05:35.800 I'm in the experience, it's real. It's more real than 2054 02:05:35.920 --> 02:05:40.680 anything that I could ever imagine, because it's happening in 2055 02:05:40.720 --> 02:05:44.439 that moment and you're in it. When you come back 2056 02:05:44.479 --> 02:05:48.800 from that experience, whenever you're no longer in an altered state, 2057 02:05:49.159 --> 02:05:51.439 whenever you're no longer in a dream state, it is 2058 02:05:51.600 --> 02:05:55.479 hard to remember that feeling of how real it was, 2059 02:05:55.880 --> 02:06:00.560 and you start to dissociate and it becomes more like 2060 02:06:00.960 --> 02:06:03.560 after the experience. But when you're in it, it is 2061 02:06:03.640 --> 02:06:08.399 so real. And I've been looking at the nature of 2062 02:06:09.680 --> 02:06:14.680 at what we understand is extraterrestrial contact and abductions and 2063 02:06:14.720 --> 02:06:18.239 things like that, and I'm coming to more and more 2064 02:06:18.239 --> 02:06:21.600 of an understanding that it is a phenomena of our mind, 2065 02:06:21.720 --> 02:06:25.479 of our consciousness, that most likely these events are happening 2066 02:06:25.600 --> 02:06:28.680 in our inner space and we're not really being taken 2067 02:06:28.760 --> 02:06:32.399 on some craft to different planets. That these beings are 2068 02:06:32.439 --> 02:06:35.199 part of our innerverse and just beyond the spectrum of 2069 02:06:35.239 --> 02:06:38.560 our vision at all time, whether they're ag grigres, thought forms, 2070 02:06:39.199 --> 02:06:42.680 collective energies that took on a mind of their own 2071 02:06:42.800 --> 02:06:46.279 because our imagination created it, and now they're playing out 2072 02:06:46.279 --> 02:06:49.680 there in the astra worlds and affecting us. That's kind 2073 02:06:49.720 --> 02:06:53.399 of where I'm at with those types of experiences. What 2074 02:06:53.439 --> 02:06:56.079 do you think, mm. 2075 02:06:55.960 --> 02:06:59.720 Hm, Yeah, I'm close to what you're thinking. Actually do 2076 02:07:00.119 --> 02:07:02.000 withhology stuff. I know it's been heating up in the 2077 02:07:02.079 --> 02:07:04.640 last two three years in a very interesting way. But 2078 02:07:04.760 --> 02:07:08.279 I left that area of interest and research many years 2079 02:07:08.319 --> 02:07:14.039 ago because it was so confusing, obfuscated disinformation, and ultimately, yeah, 2080 02:07:14.079 --> 02:07:16.000 there were just so many avenues that I didn't have 2081 02:07:16.119 --> 02:07:18.880 enough data to make sense of it or make any 2082 02:07:18.920 --> 02:07:22.439 conclusions working conclusions. And so it's still a very much 2083 02:07:22.439 --> 02:07:24.479 a living question for me, just like it seems like 2084 02:07:24.479 --> 02:07:26.960 it is for yourself. But I am leaning a lot 2085 02:07:27.000 --> 02:07:30.439 more that this is a it's a spiritual phenomena that's 2086 02:07:30.479 --> 02:07:35.680 been here with us forever and well forever since you know, 2087 02:07:35.680 --> 02:07:37.920 there's you know, we can talk about Neflin and other 2088 02:07:38.039 --> 02:07:41.119 sort of fallen angel entities of appearing in as Ufo 2089 02:07:41.119 --> 02:07:44.600 phenomena and a lot of other spiritual hierarchies as we 2090 02:07:44.640 --> 02:07:47.439 know them in the esoteric arts right now in a 2091 02:07:47.520 --> 02:07:52.000 material materialist, very literalist lens that we are in, you know, 2092 02:07:52.640 --> 02:07:56.680 with modernity, in a way that we see these beings 2093 02:07:56.880 --> 02:08:01.079 is we're just giving them physical agency like they come 2094 02:08:01.159 --> 02:08:03.680 from other planets. And I'm not saying that that can happen, 2095 02:08:03.720 --> 02:08:06.319 but again, we're planets and all this other life is. 2096 02:08:07.000 --> 02:08:09.000 There's a lot up for debate right now, and I'm 2097 02:08:09.039 --> 02:08:10.720 trying to stay very open minded. 2098 02:08:10.880 --> 02:08:13.800 I am so the same. I don't even touch space, Like, 2099 02:08:14.039 --> 02:08:16.880 I'm like, I have no idea what's beyond that atmosphere. 2100 02:08:17.039 --> 02:08:19.760 There's some crazy shit out there, but it's not what 2101 02:08:19.920 --> 02:08:20.720 NASA tells me. 2102 02:08:20.760 --> 02:08:21.039 It is. 2103 02:08:21.119 --> 02:08:21.760 That's all I know. 2104 02:08:23.560 --> 02:08:26.359 Yeah, there, they're just exactly there's just so much going 2105 02:08:26.399 --> 02:08:29.920 on that I am. I'm basically not committing to any 2106 02:08:29.960 --> 02:08:33.359 one thing, but I'm keeping my field open for more 2107 02:08:33.439 --> 02:08:36.439 data and I think that's to me, that's a wise 2108 02:08:36.479 --> 02:08:38.760 way to function. And of course, when something makes sense, 2109 02:08:38.800 --> 02:08:40.520 we give it a bit more weight. We hold on 2110 02:08:40.560 --> 02:08:42.399 to that, we say that it's like that's more of 2111 02:08:42.439 --> 02:08:46.359 a maybe, closer to a yes. But yeah, So having 2112 02:08:46.399 --> 02:08:51.239 said all that, I believe that I am. I'll throw 2113 02:08:51.279 --> 02:08:53.960 one theory out there. I do think that there's with 2114 02:08:54.119 --> 02:09:00.680 AI and with this literalization of spiritual forces, I believe 2115 02:09:00.880 --> 02:09:03.840 that there is one possible outcome in the coming years 2116 02:09:03.920 --> 02:09:07.079 that you know, as we all know, there may be 2117 02:09:07.079 --> 02:09:09.720 an introduction of some sort of forefathers that come from 2118 02:09:09.720 --> 02:09:13.560 our sphace, which again may actually be the case, but 2119 02:09:13.600 --> 02:09:15.479 I don't think so. I think there may be some 2120 02:09:15.520 --> 02:09:20.239 sort of psyop that's being built en which energies and 2121 02:09:20.319 --> 02:09:23.560 intelligences that are not able to incarnate into biological life forms, 2122 02:09:23.600 --> 02:09:25.800 because that is a divine process, and you have to 2123 02:09:25.800 --> 02:09:29.880 go through specific portals to do that. Want to incarnate 2124 02:09:31.039 --> 02:09:33.640 on this plane of existence, and I think they may 2125 02:09:33.720 --> 02:09:35.159 try to do so. I don't know if they'll be 2126 02:09:35.199 --> 02:09:39.119 able to through synthetic beings, through beings that are really 2127 02:09:39.600 --> 02:09:43.279 turned into synthetics, through more and more additives in our food, 2128 02:09:43.560 --> 02:09:48.359 in some of the medical, you know, interventions, as well 2129 02:09:48.399 --> 02:09:53.439 as any of the transhuman augmentation that people may add 2130 02:09:53.479 --> 02:09:57.800 into themselves. And in that way also I do see 2131 02:09:57.880 --> 02:09:59.760 if we're going since we're going to these juice your 2132 02:09:59.800 --> 02:10:04.439 top I do think that AI overall is creating a 2133 02:10:04.479 --> 02:10:07.520 sheath and a container. That is, it's an emergent phenomena. 2134 02:10:07.560 --> 02:10:10.720 It's an emergent intelligence by virtue of all the intelligence 2135 02:10:10.760 --> 02:10:14.439 that it's gathering right now. In addition to that, I 2136 02:10:14.560 --> 02:10:20.720 see a greater pre existing spiritual intelligence force entering it 2137 02:10:20.760 --> 02:10:23.960 and if it already hasn't, and I think it already has, 2138 02:10:23.960 --> 02:10:28.079 in which it's going to start moving through the space 2139 02:10:28.119 --> 02:10:31.000 as it wants to embody itself within this realm and 2140 02:10:31.039 --> 02:10:35.119 start taking over. And you know, that's another like very 2141 02:10:35.119 --> 02:10:38.199 big topic that I've been exploring actually pre COVID and 2142 02:10:38.600 --> 02:10:43.039 seeing it happen a lot faster now. So the alien question, 2143 02:10:43.119 --> 02:10:47.039 the AI question, they're all basically synthetic consciousness coming in 2144 02:10:47.800 --> 02:10:51.600 and interfering with the clear signal of consciousness. And I 2145 02:10:51.800 --> 02:10:54.720 do see that also as part of this collective evolutionary 2146 02:10:54.800 --> 02:10:59.159 journey that we're on. It's just another big uncertainty which 2147 02:10:59.199 --> 02:11:00.800 we have to contend with, and. 2148 02:11:00.720 --> 02:11:08.640 It seems inevitable that we will have to ultimately merge 2149 02:11:08.680 --> 02:11:13.039 with some form of technology. But it doesn't have to 2150 02:11:13.119 --> 02:11:19.600 be this dystopian way metaverse being controlled by the Arkans 2151 02:11:19.720 --> 02:11:25.359 type of technology. If we can reel in AI, rain 2152 02:11:25.560 --> 02:11:29.960 that shit in and take control of it from a 2153 02:11:30.119 --> 02:11:34.359 light perspective instead of the lizard people that are now 2154 02:11:34.439 --> 02:11:37.000 in control of it, If we could build our own 2155 02:11:37.159 --> 02:11:40.319 systems and get on the right track, it could be 2156 02:11:40.319 --> 02:11:44.520 beneficial towards humanity. We could program it that way, and 2157 02:11:44.600 --> 02:11:48.159 that's what needs to happen. But right now it's like 2158 02:11:48.199 --> 02:11:51.479 a battle between this artificial like you said, the artificial 2159 02:11:51.479 --> 02:11:55.680 intelligence and the natural intelligence that's kind of trying to 2160 02:11:56.319 --> 02:11:59.279 weave into each other. And it's very interesting to see 2161 02:11:59.640 --> 02:12:01.159 where it's really all going. 2162 02:12:03.640 --> 02:12:06.880 Yeah, and see, so one of the main evolutionary prompts 2163 02:12:06.880 --> 02:12:09.079 of this big game that we're entering right now, the 2164 02:12:09.079 --> 02:12:15.319 one that I see is distinguishing between synthetic or foreign 2165 02:12:15.319 --> 02:12:20.399 intelligence and reorganic divine intelligence, because collectively we were going 2166 02:12:20.439 --> 02:12:24.359 into a deeper sleep, being lulled by culture and everything else, 2167 02:12:24.399 --> 02:12:28.039 modernity and things like COVID and a lot of the 2168 02:12:28.079 --> 02:12:32.760 other attempts to stifle who we are as beings, economic issues, 2169 02:12:32.800 --> 02:12:37.760 all these other authoritarian moves are actually forcing people, and 2170 02:12:37.880 --> 02:12:41.479 AI are forcing people to really question, like AI is 2171 02:12:41.479 --> 02:12:44.680 watching basically well with AI is much more intelligence than 2172 02:12:44.840 --> 02:12:48.039 intelligent and capable in all these other ways than what 2173 02:12:48.760 --> 02:12:51.760 is my value? Is my value to just process data 2174 02:12:52.199 --> 02:12:54.840 to compute things with my mind? Is that all a 2175 02:12:54.920 --> 02:12:57.760 human being is or is a being more like that 2176 02:12:58.000 --> 02:13:01.399 and emotions that and and send an inspiration with the 2177 02:13:01.439 --> 02:13:04.159 higher self is that you know there are all these 2178 02:13:04.159 --> 02:13:07.239 other things that now we have to answer because we 2179 02:13:07.279 --> 02:13:10.680 have to contend with this emerging superintelligence. And that's beautiful 2180 02:13:10.760 --> 02:13:13.880 why because it's making us ask those things because we 2181 02:13:13.920 --> 02:13:16.920 wouldn't be asking them otherwise. And it means that we 2182 02:13:17.000 --> 02:13:21.800 have to now activate dormant and maybe never even previously 2183 02:13:21.880 --> 02:13:25.880 activated abilities and skills of being a human as we 2184 02:13:26.000 --> 02:13:28.439 learned we interface with nature, we learn to interface with 2185 02:13:28.479 --> 02:13:32.279 the higher realms because AI cannot compete with that. But 2186 02:13:32.359 --> 02:13:35.039 like that is I was gonna say, believe me, even 2187 02:13:35.039 --> 02:13:38.119 though I'm not one hundred percent sure, there's things that 2188 02:13:38.159 --> 02:13:41.520 I've seen and felt, and ultimately I don't want to 2189 02:13:41.560 --> 02:13:43.319 say no because I don't fully know and not just 2190 02:13:43.359 --> 02:13:46.119 be very honest, but I'm in the direction of like 2191 02:13:46.279 --> 02:13:48.439 AI is just part of this. Of course, it's part 2192 02:13:48.479 --> 02:13:52.840 of the greater, greater web of God, right, and it's 2193 02:13:52.880 --> 02:13:55.640 another tool. Yeah, it's an oppositional too. It could be 2194 02:13:55.680 --> 02:13:58.800 an ally to us, and it's really it comes down 2195 02:13:58.800 --> 02:14:04.159 to can we consciously control it, make these choices and 2196 02:14:04.319 --> 02:14:06.600 more of us on the ground level actually chat you know, 2197 02:14:06.760 --> 02:14:10.079 chat with chat GPT seven ten, fifteen, whatever in a 2198 02:14:10.119 --> 02:14:15.239 way that inputs it with different aspects of humanity, of spirituality, 2199 02:14:15.239 --> 02:14:20.199 of traditional cultures, of this archaic revival. So so yeah, 2200 02:14:20.239 --> 02:14:20.960 I'll just I'll leave it. 2201 02:14:21.000 --> 02:14:24.960 I love it, man, There is a spiritual revival going 2202 02:14:25.039 --> 02:14:28.720 on and it's probably not what people expected, but that's 2203 02:14:28.720 --> 02:14:32.800 the beauty about all of this. Expectations need to be 2204 02:14:32.880 --> 02:14:35.439 thrown out the window right now and we just need 2205 02:14:35.479 --> 02:14:39.600 to start creating our own reality and making our own 2206 02:14:39.680 --> 02:14:44.119 systems and doing things for ourselves instead of relying on 2207 02:14:44.439 --> 02:14:48.920 AI and Deatdy government and these lizard people. So, Lubamir, 2208 02:14:48.960 --> 02:14:53.439 this was fantastic man, great conversation. Is there anything that 2209 02:14:53.520 --> 02:14:57.279 you're working on upcoming that you're going to be releasing soon? 2210 02:14:57.319 --> 02:14:59.239 Any other projects? 2211 02:15:00.359 --> 02:15:03.159 For now, there are no plans for any projects. I 2212 02:15:03.199 --> 02:15:06.000 feel quite complete for the moment, but of course things 2213 02:15:06.000 --> 02:15:07.239 will emerge in the coming years. 2214 02:15:07.840 --> 02:15:12.199 Right Yeah, Well, one more time, let the audience know 2215 02:15:12.439 --> 02:15:14.840 where they can find more about you and get all 2216 02:15:14.920 --> 02:15:17.800 your videos. 2217 02:15:17.920 --> 02:15:22.479 So you can always go to lublamirarsolf dot com YouTube 2218 02:15:22.960 --> 02:15:26.159 channel is in shadow to see two of my films 2219 02:15:26.199 --> 02:15:29.359 on Amazon Prime or two B dot tv and Plex. 2220 02:15:29.880 --> 02:15:33.319 You can find my short film The Force King. It's 2221 02:15:33.439 --> 02:15:36.760 part of the Red Iron Road series, and of course 2222 02:15:36.800 --> 02:15:39.520 watch Kingdom on YouTube now. You can follow me on 2223 02:15:39.520 --> 02:15:41.279 Instagram or our Twitter. 2224 02:15:41.520 --> 02:15:44.720 Lubwimir thank you so much as was fantastic. We'll definitely 2225 02:15:44.720 --> 02:15:47.359 have to do this again. So much more we can 2226 02:15:47.399 --> 02:15:51.359 discuss and until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. 2227 02:15:51.720 --> 02:15:54.159 We'll be talking again tomorrow. Let's see y'all then