Speaker 1: Mom, you're looking fubb you lous?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look great. You could do anything with that
Speaker 2: sewing machine.
Speaker 1: No, I can't. Come on, let's go.
Speaker 2: You mean it's a new dress.
Speaker 1: Where did you get it?
Speaker 2: The outletch store?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: Two fines in one store? What are they?
Speaker 3: Adds a fright?
Speaker 2: Let's go?
Speaker 4: How much should he got a bower?
Speaker 3: Let's go?
Speaker 2: We take do with out what he let me go?
Speaker 2: We text? How much were they?
Speaker 3: Why do I always have to question everything? I do?
Speaker 3: You look nice as though?
Speaker 2: Four finger discount?
Speaker 5: Dude, Welcome to four fingered Discount.
Speaker 3: Where this weight?
Speaker 6: We're going back to season seven to review scenes from
Speaker 6: the class Struggle in Springfield.
Speaker 3: I am Dana and I am Guy wearing my Bestionelle suit. Yes,
Speaker 3: how may times have you altered this said suit?
Speaker 2: Too?
Speaker 3: Minute account?
Speaker 6: But today we are very lucky to rejoin by Nina
Speaker 6: o Yama and I say, like an up and comer
Speaker 6: in the Australian comedy scene, she's not anymore.
Speaker 3: She's Nina published. She next pomplished stuff for a while. Yeah,
Speaker 3: in various formats, whether we stand up, television, acting, writing, directing,
Speaker 3: she does it all.
Speaker 6: She does it all very well and as you'll final
Speaker 6: listen today's Chat with Nina. She's easily to fall in
Speaker 6: love with that you think, not very much, she gets it.
Speaker 6: She is just she's an absolute charmer, but she's also
Speaker 6: a bit of a rebel as well, as you'll find
Speaker 6: out in today's episode.
Speaker 3: Yes, some wayward stuff. Yes, and yeah you might want
Speaker 3: to put em ups on the kids. There's one or
Speaker 3: two C bombs in there, storry, I bleeped them out.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, we don't have Disney overlaws to cancel us
Speaker 6: as well.
Speaker 3: Well, still forever in our hearts, yes, yes.
Speaker 6: Yes, but our scenes from the Class Struggle is the
Speaker 6: episode we shall be dissecting today. But also don't forget
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Speaker 6: more time. Let's get into today's Chat with Nina Yam
Speaker 6: as we review scenes from the class Struggle in Springfield. Heybody,
Speaker 6: welcome to four Finger dis Game. I am Dana, you
Speaker 6: are I am guy. Yes, welcome to the podcast where
Speaker 6: we never use the word hotbed. We do not, indeed, no,
Speaker 6: but this person might. Her name is Nina Yama. How
Speaker 6: are you doing?
Speaker 2: Hello, I'm a hotbed of excitement for this show.
Speaker 3: That was the silkiest segue we've had yet.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you.
Speaker 6: A segue is something that you've always been talented with.
Speaker 2: No, I just saw an opportunity. I think I'm just
Speaker 2: an opportunist, you know. I was like, oh, hotbed. I
Speaker 2: also like I have That quote is one of my
Speaker 2: favorite moments of this episode where she's when I wrote
Speaker 2: it down because I thought it was so good.
Speaker 4: But yeah, what is the line?
Speaker 3: It's like and they're all just snobs and whatnot? I will.
Speaker 2: No, but I just remember because I was like, it
Speaker 2: rolled the way that it rolls off Lisa's mouth was beautiful.
Speaker 2: Was that club is an exclusionary hot bed of of
Speaker 2: exclusionist snobs and social seeking and sorry something something, I
Speaker 2: fucked it already before I get into it anyway.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Margin is just bothered by the word hot better.
Speaker 3: Forget the word to forget the social commentary or so yeah, she.
Speaker 2: Calls all her friends like social climbers and snobs basically,
Speaker 2: and just like, don't say the word hotbed.
Speaker 6: Do you find you very much like a like a Chandler,
Speaker 6: where if you've seen an opportunity to make a zinger,
Speaker 6: you just have to do it or can you restrain yourself?
Speaker 2: No? I can't. Sorry, you have to. I feel like,
Speaker 2: if there's someone presents you with an opportunity, you have
Speaker 2: to go for it.
Speaker 4: That's the rules.
Speaker 3: It's worked out. Pretty wealthy, you're so far you know
Speaker 3: what I think?
Speaker 7: Yes, that.
Speaker 2: Hashtag blessed. I guess.
Speaker 6: Well, you know we're trying to give you the validation
Speaker 6: at Marj just seeking in this episode.
Speaker 4: Oh thank you.
Speaker 2: Well, this is a very exclusionary club, the four figure
Speaker 2: discount clubs.
Speaker 4: An honor to be welcome.
Speaker 2: I didn't even have to cut up my suit to
Speaker 2: fit in here.
Speaker 6: What are your earliest memories of the Simpsons before we
Speaker 6: get into a review and everything, like, what are your
Speaker 6: earliest memories of watching the Simpsons?
Speaker 3: Just knowing the Simpsons was there?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm a classic like child of the nineties, I'd
Speaker 2: say so it's like The Simpsons is like six pm
Speaker 2: every night, Like you know, you roll up to the TV,
Speaker 2: the news is on.
Speaker 4: Oh no, you don't know.
Speaker 2: The news isn't on. The news cuts off the Simpsons.
Speaker 2: But it was like Seinfeld would be on, I think,
Speaker 2: and you'd catch like the last five minutes of Seinfeld
Speaker 2: and then you'd be like, then you'd be like, what
Speaker 2: the hell is this boring shit? And then you I
Speaker 2: was always like I don't care about this guy, which
Speaker 2: is weird because then I went on to become a
Speaker 2: stand up comedian, but I was like, these grown ups
Speaker 2: talking about grown up stuff. I don't understand. Yeah I could.
Speaker 2: I literally did not connect with Seinfeld on any level.
Speaker 6: That's so funny because you literally it's so many comedians
Speaker 6: come on this show now and say not a fan
Speaker 6: of Seinfeld.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm a fan of Seinfeld now. Although my way
Speaker 2: into Seinfeld was that I was a trivia host. That
Speaker 2: was like my main job when I was like twenty three,
Speaker 2: and they would put me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they would put me.
Speaker 2: I think I got put on a Simpsons trivia but
Speaker 2: they put me onto a Seinfeld trivia and because they
Speaker 2: were like, hey, do you like Seinfeld, and I was
Speaker 2: like nah, and they were like, okay, here's like a
Speaker 2: ten minute highlight reel of all the iconic jokes. Here's
Speaker 2: the soup ma Nazi, here's the Elane doing the Chicken
Speaker 2: dance or whatever. And I just like absorbed it really
Speaker 2: fast in ten minutes and then had to go and
Speaker 2: perform this Simpsons trivia. I meant this sorry, the Seinfeld
Speaker 2: trivia as if I was like an intimate fan of Seinfeld,
Speaker 2: and I pulled it off. But I think after that moment,
Speaker 2: I was like, maybe Seinfeld is funny, and turns out
Speaker 2: it is. Guys, like there is a reason why it's
Speaker 2: the most popular.
Speaker 3: Is shit? So you're assigned to Seinfeld? I was, I
Speaker 3: was a Seinfeld you can come now Talking Seinfeld podcast sometime.
Speaker 2: Then you have for Talking Seinfeld book. Okay, well I
Speaker 2: don't know that much. I know it. It was you know,
Speaker 2: Seinfeld was like it was like when you're hungover after
Speaker 2: like a big UNI party, you could put on Seinfeld
Speaker 2: and be like, you know, and so it's just like
Speaker 2: a good hangover show.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'll see my parents. They just despise Seinfelder.
Speaker 6: So I think by default I was like it mustn't
Speaker 6: be a good show. And I get older and teenager
Speaker 6: and I was like, this show is great. Mom's like
Speaker 6: stupid American shows, not watching that stuff.
Speaker 3: Did I see your mom at a rally on the weekend?
Speaker 2: Yeah, ones like I don't like Seinfeld because I'm a
Speaker 2: neo NATSI.
Speaker 3: Super Nazi. Okay, yeah, neo Nazi.
Speaker 2: Well but yeah, but yeah, no, I get it. I'm
Speaker 2: I was team Mom for a long time. I was like,
Speaker 2: why the fuck is there? But I really liked Friends,
Speaker 2: I think because they were friends and in Seinfeld there,
Speaker 2: so everyone sort of hated each other.
Speaker 3: But you can come on my Friends podcast I do
Speaker 3: with my wife.
Speaker 2: You are hard joke? Is there any TV show podcast
Speaker 2: that you don't?
Speaker 6: We do Friends, we do Seinfard, we do Futurama, we
Speaker 6: do south Park, we do Simpsons, we do all the classics.
Speaker 2: They are the classics.
Speaker 3: Well, we do Utopia, we do Taskmasters, Deadlock starting next year,
Speaker 3: those ones. It could be a good idea because you know,
Speaker 3: obviously podcasts everyone's doing it right now, But even thought
Speaker 3: of doing like a Deadlock podcast where you and the
Speaker 3: cart just sort of banter after an episode or whatever.
Speaker 2: No, but if you bring it up, Amazon may contact
Speaker 2: me and ask me to it. I did have to
Speaker 2: for the electronic press kit. I had me and Tom
Speaker 2: Ballard had to interview all the cast and crew and
Speaker 2: it was at the very end of shooting after six
Speaker 2: months in Tasmania, and we were all delirious and I
Speaker 2: feel like none of it was that usable, but they
Speaker 2: clipped out this one moment where one time on set
Speaker 2: I called Katebox mum and I've never lived it down,
Speaker 2: and they brought it up in the electronic press kit
Speaker 2: and so that's like the only thing it haunts me
Speaker 2: to this very day.
Speaker 3: She does have a lovely maternal vibe tour In your defense.
Speaker 2: She she did on the show because she was like
Speaker 2: helping me through some things, but I wouldn't normally like
Speaker 2: she is my friends. Like it's like if you called
Speaker 2: like Dando dad or something like, it's like anyway.
Speaker 6: But yeah, so this one here, you sent out a
Speaker 6: bunch of episodes you want to maybe touch on, which
Speaker 6: ones haven't we done, and we went with scenes from
Speaker 6: the class Struggle in Springfield, which is one of my
Speaker 6: favorite episodes and one of yours as well. You were saying,
Speaker 6: why did you choose this one. Why was this on
Speaker 6: your list?
Speaker 2: I think because someone brought up like we were talking
Speaker 2: about Simpsons episode and someone maybe not even we weren't
Speaker 2: talking about Simpsons, but we were talking about, like I think,
Speaker 2: sort of the things you do to like fit in
Speaker 2: and how that like ruins your soul. And someone was
Speaker 2: like it yet's like when Marge cuts the sleeves of
Speaker 2: that suit, and I was like, fuck, that was a
Speaker 2: good episode.
Speaker 3: So can I swear on this of course?
Speaker 2: Care? Oh yeah, fuck yeah, hot bed, hot bed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Okay away, but yes, the Simpsons, I would say, like
Speaker 2: before we move on to the actual episode, like I
Speaker 2: would describe I have lots of like full on Simpsons
Speaker 2: fans in my life, to the point where like like
Speaker 2: during UNI, I like lived in a sharehouse where like
Speaker 2: everyone was quoting the Simpsons not stop, and I kind
Speaker 2: of felt left out. And I created like a denomination
Speaker 2: of Simpsons fan categories that's like one through five. So
Speaker 2: you guys will be a five easily, but I think
Speaker 2: I'm a two. And if you're a Simpsons two, it
Speaker 2: means you can understand the quote and you probably vaguely
Speaker 2: remember it happening, but you can't say, like, the line
Speaker 2: that comes after the quote.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well you can't say that was episode seventeen from
Speaker 6: season six.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. Well that's if you're a level five, that's
Speaker 2: where that you're actually that one.
Speaker 4: You know that you can do that.
Speaker 2: But then if you're level three, you can say the
Speaker 2: line that comes after the quote, and then if you're
Speaker 2: level four, then you can say, like who said the
Speaker 2: like you can. It's like about the specificity of the
Speaker 2: Simpsons knowledge. But I will understand when something is a
Speaker 2: Simpsons quote, and I will be able to understand that
Speaker 2: it probably who said it, but I wouldn't be able
Speaker 2: to say the next line afterwards. If that makes.
Speaker 3: Sense, that sounds more like a three.
Speaker 2: Well then I'm a sentence. How dare you? This is
Speaker 2: my system? I don't know my own freaking system, dude,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I yeah, that's my system. So I'd say, okay,
Speaker 2: maybe two, and I'm a two and a half.
Speaker 3: Simpsons So what there's five?
Speaker 6: Like someone who knows what went into making said episode,
Speaker 6: the behind the scenes, that is that? Is that a
Speaker 6: level five?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: I think it's just quote based.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's like the person who's able to
Speaker 2: say what episode and what season?
Speaker 3: Okay, you're wearing a Genius of Word t shirt. She's
Speaker 3: level two. She might not get that reference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, who said that? Who said that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you allow me to play sort of amateur
Speaker 3: psychologists for a moment. It sort of leads into something
Speaker 3: that you were talking about. I mean, being a creative
Speaker 3: person in the public sphere. I mean being a very
Speaker 3: sort of outward person, make a stand up comedian, being
Speaker 3: a being an actor on screen. I mean, do you
Speaker 3: think that ties in with a want or a need
Speaker 3: to fit in to be seen a la Marge in
Speaker 3: scenes from the Cross Class Struggling Springfield.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, of course. Like I think the reason
Speaker 2: I love this episode was because I was a very
Speaker 2: like lonely kid, I think, And that's sort of I
Speaker 2: feel like Marge. You know, she's like kind of she
Speaker 2: never does anything for herself. She never is seen by
Speaker 2: her own family. She's always doing stuff like that quote
Speaker 2: where she was like, well if this suit could the
Speaker 2: whole family could wear this suit, then maby are by it.
Speaker 2: It's like she's always putting herself first and she's never
Speaker 2: recognized for who she is as a person. And I
Speaker 2: think like that's something that I definitely felt growing up,
Speaker 2: Like I just had this like deep loneliness and like
Speaker 2: hunger for acceptance, And yeah, I definitely related to March
Speaker 2: in this way.
Speaker 6: Did you put yourself before others when you're.
Speaker 4: A kid, No, I don't think, like, yeah, I just
Speaker 4: I could.
Speaker 2: I found it very hard to connect with other people,
Speaker 2: and then when I made friends, I felt fraudulent, like
Speaker 2: I felt like they weren't really my friends or they
Speaker 2: were just doing things to be nice, and I could
Speaker 2: never trust anyone.
Speaker 6: What made you feel this way anything in particular or
Speaker 6: was it just who you were?
Speaker 2: Probably just my family, Like I think that if you're
Speaker 2: like a child who grows up as a family punching bag,
Speaker 2: like it never leaves you. And like I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's like I mean, if you're to saying that, you
Speaker 2: were like yeah, but it was like have you seen
Speaker 2: such brave girls?
Speaker 3: I know of it, I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 4: It's very good.
Speaker 2: It's very cringe. It's very hard to watch. Like if
Speaker 2: you hate cringe comedy, good luck to you.
Speaker 3: But this is a UK TV series, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 2: It's just like three girls trying to It's like a
Speaker 2: mom and a single mom and her two daughters, and
Speaker 2: they're just sort of trying to survive. But they're the
Speaker 2: most ego maniacal three women you've ever met, and the
Speaker 2: things that they do to get stuff are like unhinged.
Speaker 2: Like there's one episode where this girl she's obsessed with
Speaker 2: this like her boyfriend who's like on and off and
Speaker 2: is a drug dealer, and to try and make him jealous,
Speaker 2: she decides she needs a hickey, so she gets her
Speaker 2: sister to give her a hickey, and then the boyfriend
Speaker 2: like calls her, Yeah, we've we've all got our sister
Speaker 2: to give us a hickey.
Speaker 4: But like even that is like crossing some kind of line.
Speaker 2: And then once she gives her the hickey, the boyfriend
Speaker 2: like calls the girl and he's like, can you come
Speaker 2: to the club, And then she's like, oh, he wants me,
Speaker 2: Like I can't rock up there with a hickey, So
Speaker 2: she gets a nail file and she files it off
Speaker 2: and it's just like it's disgusting, Andy, why am I
Speaker 2: talking about this? Oh? Yeah, there's one character in it
Speaker 2: called Josie, and just like everyone in her fair is
Speaker 2: just quite like awful to her for no reason, and
Speaker 2: I think as a child, I feel like that's sort
Speaker 2: of what my family felt like. It was just like
Speaker 2: no matter what I did, it was like my family
Speaker 2: wouldn't like me or something, and so I just like
Speaker 2: got really depressed.
Speaker 3: Wow, is that what led to comedy? Then?
Speaker 6: Did you seek happiness through comedy as a result, because I.
Speaker 3: Mean you started pretty young. I mean learning that you've
Speaker 3: sort of got up first on stage at seventeen, I
Speaker 3: thought that is nuts. I was crazy, but.
Speaker 2: Thank you, it's like brave or just mentally ill. I
Speaker 2: think I think it's just like I was, so I
Speaker 2: was too depressed to function, And I think that like
Speaker 2: getting up on the stage, you know, like that's like
Speaker 2: your time where people kind of listen to you and
Speaker 2: like you feel appreciated for existing. Was I think that
Speaker 2: like generally in my life, I did not feel that
Speaker 2: way or like valuable in any way.
Speaker 6: So were you not the class comedian? Would your friends
Speaker 6: have been surprised, Oh my goodness, you became a comedian?
Speaker 2: No? I think I became really attention I think I've
Speaker 2: always been really attention seeking, but I think that I
Speaker 2: figured out how to make it work for me by
Speaker 2: doing sound up comedy. Like, I don't think anyone was
Speaker 2: that surprise that I started doing it. I think my
Speaker 2: family was surprised because they were like, you're the funny one,
Speaker 2: Like you're the least funny person we've ever met. And
Speaker 2: I was like fucking but like whatever, but I still
Speaker 2: talk to your family, right, Yeah, I mean, like I
Speaker 2: didn't think I didn't really talk to them probably for
Speaker 2: like five years, and that like fixed. That was like
Speaker 2: actually really good. They're like they don't listen to watch
Speaker 2: anything I do, so's it's okay, I'm safe, marked safe
Speaker 2: from family confrontation on Facebook, but they Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: like definitely, I've found like attention and validation people giving
Speaker 2: me attention, and that validation was like basically contributed to
Speaker 2: my self worth since that since as long as I
Speaker 2: can remember, and so I think stand up was like
Speaker 2: a manifestation of that probably and still is.
Speaker 3: It sounds like a prescription drug in a lot of ways,
Speaker 3: but prescription drugs can also be abused. I mean you
Speaker 3: this is not an accusation, by the way.
Speaker 2: But I was a stand up addict.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I was a comedy holock.
Speaker 3: Welcome to yeh sportfing a discount Intervention edition, but it's actually.
Speaker 2: A twelve step program to get me out of stand
Speaker 2: up into podcasting, which is not addictive podcast.
Speaker 3: Coming to your podcast. What I'm thinking is, though, I mean,
Speaker 3: did you ever sort of acknowledge that might be sads.
Speaker 3: You're like, I am seeking too much external validation?
Speaker 2: No, because it was never like it's it's sort of
Speaker 2: never enough. I don't know. I think it's just like
Speaker 2: this industry. It was like I was always seeking it,
Speaker 2: and then you get into this industry where like you're
Speaker 2: on a quest to stay relevant NonStop, right, and so
Speaker 2: like yeah, that's part of it is that you just
Speaker 2: constantly have to be visible, and by visible, you're just
Speaker 2: like exist, like he's my post on Instagram, Like he's
Speaker 2: I went to a premiere, I was on this show.
Speaker 2: I was on the Full Finger Discount podcast. Like you
Speaker 2: guys actually feeding into my quest to stay relevant. Like
Speaker 2: I think I'm so hry, but also like so were
Speaker 2: you because now you're part of the grind too, So
Speaker 2: you're like I listened to your show and you're like, guys,
Speaker 2: like subscribe to you our pature and do this.
Speaker 4: I'm doing a sign for a podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm doing this like you're not exempt from from this
Speaker 2: this addiction. Either.
Speaker 3: I don't want to get back to an office job.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm doing exactly.
Speaker 2: Well, I never had an office job, but I wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to start one.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't know what to do. But yeah, I think
Speaker 4: what was your question?
Speaker 2: Did it?
Speaker 3: And that wasn't me sort of saying to change your ways?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: No, But it's it's like, it's the it's this industry.
Speaker 2: It feeds, It feeds the beast, That's what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2: And the beast it doesn't get what did There's a
Speaker 2: line Hacks where she's like, it doesn't get better, it
Speaker 2: only gets harder at the more like successful you are
Speaker 2: or whatever, which I actually don't agree with. I think
Speaker 2: it's hardest when you're first starting out and no one's
Speaker 2: noticing you. But then it's like sort of how to
Speaker 2: parlay that into longevity so that you don't burn out?
Speaker 2: I think is maybe what she's talking about in that quote.
Speaker 6: Which part of the industry do you feel most comfortable
Speaker 6: in now? Like, the writing side of the things is
Speaker 6: stand up comedy writing.
Speaker 2: I've stand up comedy I toured last year, and I
Speaker 2: think it like I think it broke me a little bit.
Speaker 2: I think it's just like, like I love doing stand up,
Speaker 2: but it's this weird thing because you like, you go
Speaker 2: on stage to like three hundred people and like you're
Speaker 2: crushing it, and then you go home and you like
Speaker 2: sit in your.
Speaker 4: Hotel room and you're like what the fuck, Like You're just.
Speaker 2: Like I'm so alone and like I have no one
Speaker 2: to talk to you, and I don't know how to feel,
Speaker 2: and I'm too wired to go to bed even though
Speaker 2: it's like two o'clock in the morning, and I think
Speaker 2: like you just end up either drinking or get stoned
Speaker 2: or like it doesn't feel it feels like for me.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are better at readjusting
Speaker 2: to calm and gown, but like I'm really not.
Speaker 4: And also before I go on stage.
Speaker 2: Every time I go on stage, I basically have a
Speaker 2: panic attack and I'm like I'm gonna bomb, They're all
Speaker 2: gonna hate me. And then what happens is either I
Speaker 2: do well and I am like thank fuck, or I
Speaker 2: do okay, and then my brain's like you fucking loser.
Speaker 2: You didn't do what you did fine, but you didn't
Speaker 2: do actually good. And then so then I'm alone in
Speaker 2: the hotel room and I'm just like, you're a piece
Speaker 2: of shit. You should just kill yourself. And then you're like, no,
Speaker 2: just get to the next gig and it's all gonna
Speaker 2: be okay. But there's so much like bargaining to do
Speaker 2: with like my self worth, I think with stand up,
Speaker 2: and also when you're touring again, like the being alone
Speaker 2: in your hotel room thing is such a such a
Speaker 2: weird spot, man, So how do you decompress?
Speaker 3: I mean, you mentioned getting drunk and or stone, which
Speaker 3: works for me as well, But I mean, what's your
Speaker 3: sort of self care regime?
Speaker 2: You don't have one. That's why I got the self
Speaker 2: care was probably taking a hiatus from stand up, I'd.
Speaker 4: Say, But I think, I I think a good thing.
Speaker 2: Like this year, for the last like three and a
Speaker 2: half years, I haven't lived in one spot, and I've
Speaker 2: felt like really destabilized because I've just been in like
Speaker 2: Melbourne three months work or like Brisbane four months for
Speaker 2: you like deadlock or whatever. And then i didn't have
Speaker 2: a place to come back to when I was in Sydney,
Speaker 2: and so I just felt like very unmoored. And then
Speaker 2: this year, two months ago, I moved into a house
Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm just gonna live here for
Speaker 2: a year, and I already feel a lot better, sir.
Speaker 2: For stability, Yeah, who knew stability the end it would
Speaker 2: be yeah crazy.
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Speaker 6: I was pretty much a loner kid and I had
Speaker 6: friends and I'd like to go to parties and whatnot,
Speaker 6: but I would I like to be by myself a lot.
Speaker 6: Mommy used always say why'd you go ahead and play
Speaker 6: with friends? And like, now I'm happy being I'm happy
Speaker 6: being alone. And I would often turn to TV as
Speaker 6: like a friend, you know, the Simpsons. I would I
Speaker 6: would just hang out with the Simpsons. So I'd be
Speaker 6: hanging out with and people say, well, that's weird. That
Speaker 6: TV was your friend, but no, it was almost like
Speaker 6: it was an associate of mind. Did you ever turn
Speaker 6: to TV to sort of keep you company when you
Speaker 6: were felt feeling lonely as a kid.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I weirdly didn't turn to TV.
Speaker 2: I think I grew up in like people ripping episodes
Speaker 2: of TV to put on YouTube.
Speaker 4: So I used to.
Speaker 2: Get like The It Crowd Part one because you know
Speaker 2: it on YouTube used to be a ten minute limit,
Speaker 2: and part two and I had like an iPod and
Speaker 2: it was like tiny, like the screen was the size
Speaker 2: of a posted stamp, and I would just rewatch, like
Speaker 2: The It Crowd, Mighty Booche, like all those sort of
Speaker 2: British TV shows from that, like Black Books, and when
Speaker 2: I was a teen neighbor dude, I could like the
Speaker 2: Crimps from the Mighty Brush, like whenever I find another
Speaker 2: person at like the Mighty Brush were just like straight
Speaker 2: into it. But I think that and also like just
Speaker 2: British stuff I loved. And then at some point, do
Speaker 2: you know college humor there now no one has drop out,
Speaker 2: So they used to do sketch shows that went straight
Speaker 2: like they were on you downloaded them as if they
Speaker 2: were a podcast, and they would go straight to your
Speaker 2: iPod and so you just like would get sketches like
Speaker 2: you upplug your iPhone or your iPod in to get
Speaker 2: the newest I don't know, I Ronica's album, and it
Speaker 2: would automatically just be like, here's like forty college humor
Speaker 2: sketches about the Internet. And so I just started mainlining
Speaker 2: those and they were a mixture of sketch stand up.
Speaker 2: Like I saw like Donald Glover perform on there when
Speaker 2: he was like nineteen years old. I saw like Chelsea
Speaker 2: Peretti and all the people that are now famous on Dropout,
Speaker 2: and like it was I think like that was definitely
Speaker 2: my comedy education. But in terms of like televisions specifically,
Speaker 2: or like sitting down to watch stuff with my family,
Speaker 2: I think the more like teenage I got, or the
Speaker 2: more less I wanted to be around them because I
Speaker 2: didn't feel good, and so I'd just retreat to my
Speaker 2: room and like watch my little shows on a postage
Speaker 2: stamp screen. So yes, yes, it's the same.
Speaker 6: Are you a fan of sketch comedy still? Do you
Speaker 6: think Australian needs another sketch comedy series or do you
Speaker 6: think that's sort of that fad. It's not a fad,
Speaker 6: but that sort of genre is dying.
Speaker 4: No, I think.
Speaker 2: Sketch is evergreen. The problem is that like every time
Speaker 2: Australian has a sketch comedy show, there's some fucking executive
Speaker 2: who ruins it. Like there was one called was it
Speaker 2: we interrupt this broadcast and at every level it looked
Speaker 2: like it was going to be good. The cast was good,
Speaker 2: the writing was good, the directing was good, and the
Speaker 2: editor was some guy who like cut scenes for Maths
Speaker 2: and he wouldn't cut anything funny and he'd be like,
Speaker 2: you don't need an establishing shot, you don't need this,
Speaker 2: you don't need that, and then he just like butchered
Speaker 2: the whole show single handedly. Allegedly, I probably have to
Speaker 2: say that. So he.
Speaker 3: Sounds like he sucks.
Speaker 2: He does suck, and everybody hated him, but he was
Speaker 2: like head of Maths or whatever.
Speaker 4: So it was like this thing.
Speaker 2: Where it was like it was like, that's the thing
Speaker 2: with these sketch shows. He's like, you have to trust
Speaker 2: the right creatives to make them, and this country, because
Speaker 2: they're so risk averse, they would never give a chance
Speaker 2: to someone who like hasn't worked on maths for twenty
Speaker 2: years apparently, like that's your prerequisite.
Speaker 4: For cutting a sketch show.
Speaker 2: But there's so many good comedy editors out there that
Speaker 2: they were just like didn't consider because the company who
Speaker 2: created it was a reality TV company.
Speaker 4: So I think, like sketch is not dead.
Speaker 2: Australia needs a new sketch show, and I know for
Speaker 2: a fact that there is one coming along pretty soon,
Speaker 2: which I think is going to be really great. But yeah,
Speaker 2: as long as it doesn't get ruined by some like
Speaker 2: dumb cut executive who has no idea what the fuck
Speaker 2: he's doing, Like.
Speaker 6: That's zeph a Network TV.
Speaker 2: Yes, as far as I know what you can say.
Speaker 2: So I actually don't know what channel it's for, or
Speaker 2: if it's for a channel, or if it's for a streamer,
Speaker 2: but I know that it's for public because it's not
Speaker 2: for TikTok. You know, I said it so totally like
Speaker 2: it's not for TikTok. But sketch is so alive on TikTok.
Speaker 2: You know, sketch is just taking another form. It's like
Speaker 2: front facing camera comedy is now sketch.
Speaker 3: I believe I was about to say it's mostly going
Speaker 3: to be found on YouTube or on TikTok or on
Speaker 3: instareels or something like that. I don't think yeah, network
Speaker 3: TELEVII or commercial television or even streaming services kind of
Speaker 3: had the infrastructure for it or or the audience for it.
Speaker 2: But like I think you should leave with Tim Robinson
Speaker 2: like that is such a hit. It launched his career.
Speaker 2: Like when it's done well, it can find an audience.
Speaker 2: But again, dumb cuts, That's all I'm saying. Like, you know,
Speaker 2: if you have like there's ten people in a row
Speaker 2: in terms of like seniority, and the first nine are
Speaker 2: great and then the tenth one is a fuckhead, the
Speaker 2: show is going to be bad. And that's just how
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: You know, one bad egg.
Speaker 4: One bad egg.
Speaker 2: It's one a very very high senior bad egg.
Speaker 6: Yes, where do you think comedians go now to be discovered?
Speaker 6: Because I will talk in recently the podcast how we
Speaker 6: feel like have you Been Paying Attentions a good source
Speaker 6: now for finding new comedians?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like Have You Been Paying Attention is
Speaker 2: a fantastic show, and it is a good resource for
Speaker 2: finding new comedians. But those are comedians that have been
Speaker 2: handpicked by a talent agent, like if you want to
Speaker 2: find like new subversive voices, maybe like have you Been Again?
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of it, but it is the
Speaker 2: people who are like white teeth, commercialized faces, who are
Speaker 2: palatable for people over sixty. And I think it's good
Speaker 2: and it's really great that like people new comedians do
Speaker 2: get handpicked to be on that platform and benefit from that.
Speaker 2: But I think if you are looking for like kind
Speaker 2: of more, I don't know how to describe it, like
Speaker 2: like I think subversive, an alternative and slightly like off
Speaker 2: the beaten path. Comedians like Instagram, TikTok and YouTube are
Speaker 2: probably your best bet.
Speaker 6: Where would you start if you're starting at now?
Speaker 3: Is that? Where is that the avenue you would go down? YouTube?
Speaker 3: Just putting skitz YouTube?
Speaker 2: I was starting comedy now, I would not Would you start?
Speaker 3: Would you start comedy now?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Because you have to look at your face.
Speaker 2: I hate my face.
Speaker 4: Like it's one of the word I fucking hate looking
Speaker 4: at it. Actually I'm looking at it right now. It
Speaker 4: looks fine, But it's.
Speaker 2: Just like I think it's like I've been in this
Speaker 2: industry for like over ten years, if you say, like
Speaker 2: I started set up when I was seventeen, which I did,
Speaker 2: and I'm thirty two now, Like that's fifteen years in
Speaker 2: the industry. It's taken me fifteen years to be able
Speaker 2: to look at my face and not want to cry
Speaker 2: and die, like, which I know is like very crazy
Speaker 2: to say, but it's like it's like if you're a
Speaker 2: comedian now you have to be okay with being recorded.
Speaker 2: You have to be okay with like having your voice recorded.
Speaker 2: Like there's so much brand awareness that you have to
Speaker 2: have of yourself. And I think that like I just
Speaker 2: wouldn't my self esteem would be able to handle looking
Speaker 2: at my face and body twenty four to seven editing
Speaker 2: clips for the Internet. It's still I still can't watch
Speaker 2: myself do stand up. Yeah, I don't find myself funny,
Speaker 2: if that's weird to say.
Speaker 3: The other thing is, though, I mean, in addition to
Speaker 3: being a creative person, you have to be in your
Speaker 3: own marketing department as well, and that marketing grind is
Speaker 3: twenty four seven, you know. I mean, I've always sending up,
Speaker 3: but I was good at sales. It would have gone
Speaker 3: into sales there was more money and that shit. But
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, being like a freelance created person
Speaker 3: is kind of like well, half the work is actually
Speaker 3: getting the work, and then half the work is the work.
Speaker 2: It's it's yeah, and then half the work is promoting
Speaker 2: the work as well. I think it's just being like,
Speaker 2: look at this work that I did.
Speaker 3: See. I edit all the videos for this as well.
Speaker 6: And I always say how the editing process is like
Speaker 6: the worst part of this, because that's the real grind,
Speaker 6: especially like reels and things like that. And so many
Speaker 6: people just go, just use AI, and I go, I
Speaker 6: don't want to just throw my continent out there using AI,
Speaker 6: because you can tell when something being made with AI,
Speaker 6: and I'm just going too much pride in this thing
Speaker 6: that I'm creating to just throw an AOI generated to
Speaker 6: throw it out there. I'm like, I'm just throwing continent now,
Speaker 6: I'm throwing considered my version of art out there, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think that's good, and I think I
Speaker 2: think no one should be using AI. But that's a
Speaker 2: whole conversation for another time.
Speaker 3: It is, No, it's a conversation for this time. We're
Speaker 3: doing it now.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm so conscious that we're like thirty minutes
Speaker 2: in and like very little has been said about the
Speaker 2: Most have been like critiques of like how the entertainment industry.
Speaker 3: It is fine, it's been one big tely health session.
Speaker 3: We put chapters. It's fine, but let's go, let's get
Speaker 3: back to it.
Speaker 2: So since ages, I got nothing on today, I'm just hungover.
Speaker 3: So that's my Yeah, hungover.
Speaker 6: On a Tuesday sounds like a good Monday night.
Speaker 2: It actually was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm guessing you did you did a time five
Speaker 3: last night, got back to the hotel roomors going hello, Jack, No.
Speaker 2: I just had dinner with friends. And then it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I've drunk like six glasses of wine.
Speaker 3: Did you microwave your own soup?
Speaker 2: I did, and I'm made a big mess, And.
Speaker 6: Yeah, who's your husband with?
Speaker 2: With?
Speaker 3: Was the husband?
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's there's another one in that moment there, but
Speaker 6: I love it was one of my fairite moments. It's
Speaker 6: the sometimes you hear chitter chatter in the background the Simpsons,
Speaker 6: and you know, when it's on TV, you can't really
Speaker 6: hear it properly, but the subtitles now you can. Finally,
Speaker 6: I'm discovering quotes and the Simpsons that I never realized
Speaker 6: as a kid. So when they're all sort of bantering Oh,
Speaker 6: it was a good idea to micro wave your own suit.
Speaker 6: You hear one of them, go wish. My first time
Speaker 6: was much like like you're with and oh that Iris
Speaker 6: is a gem, isn't he? And I'm like, all these
Speaker 6: quotes I never heard when I was a kid, but
Speaker 6: because the subtitle, I now know they're there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that is level six Simpsons behavior is knowing
Speaker 2: the quotes of the background voices.
Speaker 6: Oh, it's just just yeah, just all these discovering I
Speaker 6: just love a discovering new new dialogue on The Simpsons
Speaker 6: that I've seen a thousand times.
Speaker 3: You've gone six sigma honors. Oh my god, your third
Speaker 3: eyes opened.
Speaker 6: But this is a very this is a very March
Speaker 6: centric episode. I dare I say it's the March episode
Speaker 6: of the Golden Ear. I think because we really see
Speaker 6: in evolution of Margins character. She's someone who's as you're
Speaker 6: touching on earlier, she's very selfless. She's always thinking of
Speaker 6: everybody else where here, and they show that at the
Speaker 6: start of this episode where she's the one who says
Speaker 6: we don't need a fancy TV, we just need a
Speaker 6: TV and we're gonna go to the outlet mall it
Speaker 6: doesn't matter. We're gonna do it on the cheap blah
Speaker 6: blah blah. And then she finally spoils herself for the
Speaker 6: first time in forever, and she starts to get this
Speaker 6: feeling of, Oh, this is what it's like to be noticed,
Speaker 6: and we see her slowly, slowly evolve into this person
Speaker 6: who's more focused on appearances than just being her. And
Speaker 6: it isn't until she sees the reaction that her daughter
Speaker 6: gives her at the end when she says, you look
Speaker 6: nice as all and clearly Lisa is disappointed in her
Speaker 6: and the much disappointed in herself that she goes back
Speaker 6: to the old ways. But I think this is a
Speaker 6: really great March episode.
Speaker 2: M I think so too. I think it's my I
Speaker 2: met like, I haven't watched a lot of March episodes lately,
Speaker 2: but I think I think it's it feels very relevant now.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I always think that after every Simpson's
Speaker 2: episodes where I'm like now more than ever twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: when the class divide is like widening and the middle
Speaker 2: class was falling away, you know, it does how did Yeah,
Speaker 2: It's impossible to know, but yeah, I do think that.
Speaker 2: I think that it's a combination of like that sort
Speaker 2: of hype irrelevance to now and then also the fact
Speaker 2: that it's Marge getting her own storyline because I think
Speaker 2: the Symptoms is great, but it does sort of suffer
Speaker 2: from that, like DMN man gets all the storylines and
Speaker 2: like it's fine. That sort of is a formula in itself.
Speaker 2: It's like the.
Speaker 4: American dad, the family guy. Like you know, it's.
Speaker 2: Like like idiot dad, capable wife, you know, I know.
Speaker 2: It's also like the genetic makeup of so much like
Speaker 2: radio as well, Like women in radio are called the
Speaker 2: whole because they just go, oh, you can't see that,
Speaker 2: Like that's like.
Speaker 4: Their whole job is to be the upright person.
Speaker 2: And so I love that there is that flip and
Speaker 2: Marge gets to be deranged in her way, which is
Speaker 2: just wanting to be wealthier.
Speaker 3: Basically, even Marge has faults.
Speaker 4: Yeah, even perfect Marge.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, Elishness as a hell of a drug. And
Speaker 3: I mean it's not necessarily even a bad selfishness, just
Speaker 3: a response to being selfless for so long, you know,
Speaker 3: having this opportunity to put yourself front and the sender
Speaker 3: to actually acknowledge your wants and needs and have to
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to do that, to be sort of
Speaker 3: like the version of yourself that you always thought that
Speaker 3: you were, and then but also recognizing that the cost
Speaker 3: of that is maybe more than you're willing to pay.
Speaker 3: I think it gives this episode a real relevance and
Speaker 3: a real resonance.
Speaker 2: I think completely. And I think there is that element
Speaker 2: like when she meets that woman from high school and
Speaker 2: she's like, Oh, you're more.
Speaker 4: Than that girl.
Speaker 2: You look exactly the same. You're still that girl I
Speaker 2: never paid attention to at high school. But there is
Speaker 2: that sort of thing where like it's on a deeper level,
Speaker 2: you know, it's not just about her life now, it's
Speaker 2: like about who she was and who she thought she
Speaker 2: would be, as you were saying, And so I think
Speaker 2: that that's like a very interesting when she says, oh,
Speaker 2: and to think I heard you married that Homer Simpson
Speaker 2: and she's like, I did awkward pause, Okay, yeah, She's like,
Speaker 2: come show me the pumps.
Speaker 6: I wasn't one of the cool kids at school, and
Speaker 6: I think, like margin obviously.
Speaker 3: Being the same.
Speaker 6: I feel like because she this Evelyn was the one
Speaker 6: who invited her as well, it's almost like trying to
Speaker 6: go back to school and go, oh, I'm finally getting
Speaker 6: to hang out with the cool kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a do over almost.
Speaker 3: She's well as that saying it's never too late to
Speaker 3: have a happy childhood.
Speaker 4: Who says that?
Speaker 6: But you was touching on earlier how the comedy is
Speaker 6: very much dumb husband, capable wife. You're writing comedy now?
Speaker 6: That seemed to be very much the thing in the eighties, nineties,
Speaker 6: even early two thousands. Is that still the thing now?
Speaker 6: Is that the default sort of go to for comedy
Speaker 6: anymore when it comes to family situations?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I look honestly like, probably yes to an extent,
Speaker 2: But I do think that it seems to me women
Speaker 2: are given more agents see and sort of I don't know,
Speaker 2: freedom or sexuality almost I think then Marge, I find
Speaker 2: Marge very like I don't know how to describe it,
Speaker 2: man like full maternal, whereas like I think, like even
Speaker 2: Lois is about is allowed to be like horny sometimes.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just I feel like, you know, they're
Speaker 2: given agency in different ways. But I look, honestly, I
Speaker 2: have worked in adult animation, and I think that there
Speaker 2: was a real effort to make sure that even though
Speaker 2: we I'm talking about specifically about Kohala Mann, which is
Speaker 2: a show that I worked on, which again was a
Speaker 2: family show.
Speaker 4: Yeah it's yeah, Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 2: Clang, but you know, yeah you claimed but the Yeah,
Speaker 2: we did have that sort of family makeup where it
Speaker 2: was like, you know, psycho husband who thinks he knows
Speaker 2: everything and like wife who sort of has to teach him.
Speaker 2: But I think that we really tried to like flesh
Speaker 2: her out and give her real agency and real backstory
Speaker 2: and secrets that she kept from him.
Speaker 4: And yeah, and the writer's room.
Speaker 2: Again was like fifty percent women as well, so we
Speaker 2: were i'd say, like very aware of falling into that
Speaker 2: trope and just very adept at finding ways to kind
Speaker 2: of like negate it and giving like the wife the
Speaker 2: a story occasionally and also making Kevin Okay kual Man
Speaker 2: like open to learning. I think, and The Simpsons was
Speaker 2: like a huge inspiration for that show because at its
Speaker 2: heart it is about.
Speaker 4: A family, and an Australian family at that.
Speaker 6: Well, that's just what makes Sipson so great, and particularly
Speaker 6: like we call the Golden Ear, like the first nine
Speaker 6: seasons where the show sort of evolved into something it
Speaker 6: became very cartoony. Later on, we had this term called
Speaker 6: jerkass Homer, where Homer wasn't really held accountable for his
Speaker 6: being just being shithead. Really wasn't your bad husband, bad father.
Speaker 6: There's just a little moments in this episode here which
Speaker 6: I liked, where he's excited to go play golf and
Speaker 6: Marge's doing her outfit or whatever, and Lisa's on the
Speaker 6: bed and just gives them both a big kiss before
Speaker 6: he leaves, And I was like, just little touches like
Speaker 6: that just make this feel like a real family.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they love.
Speaker 2: Each other deeply, I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, incredibly sympathetic Homer in this episode.
Speaker 2: I got to say, yeah.
Speaker 4: He is very like on board.
Speaker 2: I love the amount of lind like he gets all
Speaker 2: these lines that are sort of they're like joke lines,
Speaker 2: but they're sort of him saying subtext where he's like, Colm, on, kids,
Speaker 2: let's go sit in the car until your mom's.
Speaker 5: Done fluting in.
Speaker 4: There's like certain things of that.
Speaker 2: He's like quite astute. The other thing I love about Homer,
Speaker 2: which I think is probably main redeeming quality, which is
Speaker 2: that he's an idiot savant, Like he is a man,
Speaker 2: that is like a dumb cut, but he is surprisingly
Speaker 2: good at a lot of things.
Speaker 3: We always love when he's good at something. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so like this episode, I think they're just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's a fucking golf genius, and you're like that's redeeming
Speaker 2: somehow that he's able to fit into this, you know,
Speaker 2: upper class place because of his idiot savant nature.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's a great quote by I think it's
Speaker 3: by Alfred Hitchcock who said, you know, an audience will
Speaker 3: forgive a character anything as long as they're good at
Speaker 3: their job. Yeah, if they're good at a task. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, although I've got to pick a few knits here,
Speaker 3: why did Homer not quit the power plant and you know,
Speaker 3: either go on the circuit Happy Gilmore style or just
Speaker 3: become a golf pro god sax. That is Quoe. That's
Speaker 3: why we need the Simpsons to be back to normal
Speaker 3: next week.
Speaker 2: Because it was the B story.
Speaker 6: I do think I did have my notes though that
Speaker 6: I do think they could have got a Happy Gilmore
Speaker 6: esque kind of episode out of the Simpsons.
Speaker 3: I think it would have been a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised that they didn't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, especially maybe Happy Gilmore two coming out, maybe they.
Speaker 4: Will, or like a Caddy.
Speaker 3: Shack even, yeah, Caddy Shak.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so much golf stuff, you should write them.
Speaker 6: I just like the sports based I just like the
Speaker 6: sports based episodes. But because you're a dude, Yeah, it's true,
Speaker 6: you're touching on how I.
Speaker 2: Like the closed based ones because I'm a woman.
Speaker 6: The Simpsons Golden ear right, we all worship it and
Speaker 6: we love it. But it was a very male dominated
Speaker 6: writers room. There weren't that many women. But it's interesting
Speaker 6: that you chose this episode. And did you know this
Speaker 6: was the first episode to be credited with a female
Speaker 6: director and a female writer.
Speaker 2: No, I did not know that. Maybe I just saidsed
Speaker 2: it in my in my lady booth. I was it.
Speaker 3: Was a stipulation that you wouldn't be pushing your feminist
Speaker 3: agender on this episode.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I've broken contract. I guess I don't know, lock
Speaker 2: me up for whatever they do when you break your NDA.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I honestly had no idea, But I
Speaker 2: just I just liked this episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And Jennifer Critten, who wrote this episode, she wrote some
Speaker 6: of my favorite episodes. So and Maggie makes three now
Speaker 6: you might remember that one as they do it for
Speaker 6: her moment no at the end, yes, yeah, which I
Speaker 6: think is the greatest ending in the history of the Simpsons.
Speaker 6: And she wrote that episode. She wrote this one as well.
Speaker 6: She wrote the one where there's teachers go on strike,
Speaker 6: you know, the taxes the fingers thing needs to take
Speaker 6: to that one. She wrote this one bit of the
Speaker 6: twenty two short films about Springfield. And she wrote the
Speaker 6: Pretzel Wagon episode with Marge as well.
Speaker 3: I just want to give you a share there because
Speaker 3: you did a Lorady Troy mccluth there. You may remember
Speaker 3: this episode is this.
Speaker 2: I feel like all those episodes are like sort of
Speaker 2: quietly gut wrenching, is how I would describe. Like. There's
Speaker 2: sort of the ones where you come away especially do
Speaker 2: it for her. I remember, that's such that and that's
Speaker 2: still like people quote that all the time.
Speaker 3: That's that's peak Simpsons.
Speaker 6: If I say, if I'm ever trying to convince someone
Speaker 6: that Simpsons is one of the greatest shows of all time,
Speaker 6: I show them just that moment, just that you'll watch
Speaker 6: the whole episode to build up to it, but it
Speaker 6: just shows that's why we love the Simpsons. Seeing what Homer.
Speaker 6: You know, he doesn't talk about Maggie at home, it
Speaker 6: doesn't have all photos around the house, but where he
Speaker 6: needs her the most is at his workplace.
Speaker 3: It's just like it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's absolutely like gut wrenching. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so I love hearing that. I love that
Speaker 2: lineage my favorite.
Speaker 6: Do you have any favorite moments from this episode?
Speaker 2: I've got a list on my computer that I'm like,
Speaker 2: can I Oh, actually no, This is my favorite part
Speaker 2: of the entire episode.
Speaker 4: When she rips the dress.
Speaker 2: It's like sort of, you know, this huge moment of
Speaker 2: crisis for her when she's made this perfect dress for
Speaker 2: the ball and then the the sewing machine eats it
Speaker 2: and then she ends up with these like ripped chatters
Speaker 2: of this unsalvageable thing, and she goes, I guess in
Speaker 2: moments like these, all you can do is laugh.
Speaker 4: And then she just quietly.
Speaker 2: Sits on a stool and she stares into the distance,
Speaker 2: and I just think that's like the funniest I don't know.
Speaker 2: That to me is like, yeah, that's like what life
Speaker 2: is like sometimes, where you're just like, I guess all
Speaker 2: you can do is laugh.
Speaker 6: And then you're just like, I've had moments in life
Speaker 6: where I've gotten through them because I just do what
Speaker 6: Marge I here, I'm like, just keep your composure, It'll
Speaker 6: be fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but inside, yeah, feeling nothing almost is like.
Speaker 6: I love this is very much relatable for me. Very
Speaker 6: relateable for me is the moment where Homer says, what's
Speaker 6: the point in going out? We're just gonna wind up
Speaker 6: back here anyway? That is such a moder to live.
Speaker 2: That's so funny.
Speaker 3: What about you? I had that as well. I mean,
Speaker 3: that is definitely a that I've been living by. I
Speaker 3: thought this was just a really great traditional sitcom gag.
Speaker 3: But you know, marshaling about, I've got this lovely new apport.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be nice to go somewhere. Wouldn't be nice to
Speaker 3: go to the opera or something cut to the opera?
Speaker 3: And then it's just doing the vacuuming. So watching La
Speaker 3: Traviata on TV. By the way, I also love that
Speaker 3: the they've ended up buying the carnival clearly from the
Speaker 3: from the Ogdenville outlet more and it's a piece of
Speaker 3: shit TV. You can't use the vacuum cleaner around it
Speaker 3: with that's getting all staticky.
Speaker 2: I love the opening line of like the sales pitch,
Speaker 2: because you think that sort of skeezy salesman is going
Speaker 2: to be like, I'm not going to lie to you.
Speaker 2: These are not amazing TVs. But he goes, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to lie to you. These are all superior machines.
Speaker 3: That guy guys are dope sales. But I mean, because
Speaker 3: what's wise guy. Well, he is, yeah, one of my
Speaker 3: one of my it's his favorite secondary, one of my
Speaker 3: favorite characters, just in terms of his voice. But I
Speaker 3: mean playing on your or playing on the customers, playing
Speaker 3: on the customer, Oh my god, excuse me, playing on
Speaker 3: the customers expertise as they say. It's like if you're
Speaker 3: someone who likes to watch TV, and I mean really
Speaker 3: watch it. That's right. I am a pro. I thought
Speaker 3: that was marvelous.
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Speaker 3: Anytime you get a sip Wood shout out, it is
Speaker 3: level level two Simpsons see that. You can tell you
Speaker 3: I know who it is because I'm a TV though,
Speaker 3: But let me put the nerd hat on for tell me.
Speaker 3: Back in the nineties, there was a very popular cop
Speaker 3: show called NYPD Blue.
Speaker 6: I remember saying primos for NYPD Blue. Maybe I guess
Speaker 6: you're what four or five years younger than me?
Speaker 3: Maybe not? Yeah, okay, starring the nineties most unlikely sexym
Speaker 3: well David Caruso. Wow, But his offsider was here, Andy Sipperwitz,
Speaker 3: a slightly overweight, chainsmoking cop trying to drop in the
Speaker 3: odd racist and sexual slur who became much beloved by
Speaker 3: by viewers worldwide. Andy sipplewit ni yes was up and
Speaker 3: parading around the short sleeve shirt with a tie on,
Speaker 3: and of course to be Homer's hero. Of course, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but Sipplewits does it love that? And one last thing,
Speaker 3: this line just sort of stuck me right in the heart.
Speaker 3: It's like, it'd be nice for someone to call me
Speaker 3: sir without following it with your making a scene, someone
Speaker 3: who has someone who was made a scene on occasion
Speaker 3: it's like, oh man.
Speaker 6: Can you recall a time you've ever made a scene Nina,
Speaker 6: and you knew, and you knew mid scene you're like,
Speaker 6: oh my god, I'm making a scene, but I'm so
Speaker 6: far into it now, just going to go with it,
Speaker 6: or you were reminded the following.
Speaker 2: Day, Like any time I think I, oh no, I
Speaker 2: don't want to it just makes me look kind of
Speaker 2: like an asshole. But like I was drinking one time
Speaker 2: until like closing at this like old kind of bar,
Speaker 2: and I think it was just like you when you're
Speaker 2: drinking and you like want to keep drinking and then
Speaker 2: you're like this just doesn't show me in a good light.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but this the bartender was like didn't call
Speaker 2: last Oh no, they I went and bought a round
Speaker 2: of drinks and then I had paid for them, and
Speaker 2: as I went to take them, the manner of the
Speaker 2: security guard was like, oh, we're actually closed, and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh well, I've already like bought these drinks
Speaker 2: and like, you guys didn't call lust drinks, so I'm
Speaker 2: we'll just take them.
Speaker 4: We'll drink it really fast and we'll leave.
Speaker 2: And he was like no, and then he poured the
Speaker 2: drinks out in front of me, and I was just
Speaker 2: like and then they had to refund my purpse, like
Speaker 2: it just seemed like this egregious kind of thing. And
Speaker 2: I was like, come on, man, like trying to level
Speaker 2: with him, and I think I told him. I was like,
Speaker 2: don't you remember like before the lockout Laws, like we
Speaker 2: could just drink and like be civil and like trust
Speaker 2: each other to know. And he was like, he was
Speaker 2: like you wouldn't know when the lockout Laws work, Like
Speaker 2: how old are you? And I was like I am
Speaker 2: forty five years old and he was like you look
Speaker 2: really good for your age. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: give me the fucking drinks. They did not give me
Speaker 2: the drinks, but it was like one of my most
Speaker 2: Like we was just trying to convince this security guard
Speaker 2: that I was like ten years older than I was,
Speaker 2: just to prove a point. But I was just like,
Speaker 2: because I was really angry that they took the drinks back. Anyway,
Speaker 2: they probably shouldn't have sentd me. I was like white,
Speaker 2: like wasted, like I wasn't you know fully there, But
Speaker 2: I was bummed that, yeah, ten minutes to closing. They like.
Speaker 2: I was like, I got like nine out ten steps
Speaker 2: the way there.
Speaker 6: And that feels like such a waste to just pour
Speaker 6: the drinks. I was like, even for yourself, at least
Speaker 6: don't waste the beer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to do that in front of me, like God,
Speaker 2: come on. And then to refund my card. That was
Speaker 2: the other crazy thing. I was like, you'd rather lose
Speaker 2: like thirty bucks than just yeah, let someone have something.
Speaker 4: It just felt like an ego, an ego thing.
Speaker 3: Guess props to you for thinking on your feet though
Speaker 3: claiming to be forty.
Speaker 2: Five the way, I'm an improviser, But that was the
Speaker 2: funniest thing that he was like, well, you look really
Speaker 2: good for your age, and I was like, thank you.
Speaker 3: Can I have your number? You say you don't like Seinfeld,
Speaker 3: This sounds like a Seinfeld scene. Next question, you there
Speaker 3: eating the beast.
Speaker 6: All right, let's get some trivia before we get skimven
Speaker 6: through this episode. So my first question for you both
Speaker 6: is who has a TV shaped like a fifties diner?
Speaker 3: What is the place at?
Speaker 6: Bart suggests No good.
Speaker 2: I don't remember, but I do remember the quote afterwards,
Speaker 2: which is. Lisa says something like, oh, we could get
Speaker 2: like a Native American Indian style TV from here, and
Speaker 2: Marge says, we can't afford to shop at a place
Speaker 2: with a political ethos. Yeah, sorry political man. I was like,
Speaker 2: that's so real, man, Like it is so expensive to
Speaker 2: be like a morally correct shopper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to say the sharper image you would
Speaker 3: be correcting day by reading it off the screen. Here
Speaker 3: is the right looking up to the left, back into
Speaker 3: the left. I feel it is little all right, what's your.
Speaker 4: Next question inside of trading happening here?
Speaker 2: When you guys hear the same studio.
Speaker 3: When Marge is asking to go out in a new outfit,
Speaker 3: Homer suggests which establishment, Oh.
Speaker 2: Spurlock's Cafeteria.
Speaker 3: Well done, well played, Nina, I wouldn't have got that.
Speaker 3: Well played. And you say you're a level too, Come.
Speaker 2: On, well, I did just what. I watched this episode twice.
Speaker 2: I watched it once last night to sort of make
Speaker 2: sure that I watched it, and then I watched it
Speaker 2: once again this morning, and then wrote down my favorite lines.
Speaker 6: What's your memory like? Because I find you I'm thirty
Speaker 6: six now, and I mean you're you're thirty what thirty one?
Speaker 3: Thirty thirty two?
Speaker 2: Actually turned thirty two like a couple of weeks ago anyway.
Speaker 6: Oh, gradually I turned thirty seven in two days. Anyway,
Speaker 6: I've known since being a dad and getting less sleep,
Speaker 6: my memory is fading. Do you how's your memory going
Speaker 6: these days? Like you still remember that quote? I couldn't
Speaker 6: remember that quote.
Speaker 2: I'm well, I I think that one is sort of
Speaker 2: just because it was fresh in my braid and I
Speaker 2: felt I thought that was a really funny response. I
Speaker 2: think my memory is good if I think something's if
Speaker 2: I remember, if it's worth remembering, if I remember that moment, yeah,
Speaker 2: if it's worth remembering. But I think my memory is
Speaker 2: bad if I don't give a shit. I guess it's
Speaker 2: that ADHD thing where you're like, I diligently applied to
Speaker 2: myself to anything that's interesting, and then the moment that
Speaker 2: it's like sports or numbers or science, my brain is
Speaker 2: just like.
Speaker 4: No, why would you.
Speaker 2: But Simpson's quotes that I watched, you know, twice in
Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours, I think they're okay right now.
Speaker 3: But six classes of the wine under the belt.
Speaker 2: Props, Well, yeah, I mean maybe that helped. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: that thing of like when you're drunk and you're like
Speaker 2: watching something like no, I don't know, but maybe, well
Speaker 2: do you play I play this game whenever I'm like
Speaker 2: at a dinner party, which is I try and remember
Speaker 2: every single person's name, and it's like a game for
Speaker 2: me where I'm like, oh blah blah blah blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And then at some point you're sitting
Speaker 2: at a dinner table and you're like, I reckon, I
Speaker 2: know every single person's name here, and if you can
Speaker 2: fire off like fifteen names in a row or whatever
Speaker 2: ten names in a row, everyone's like yay.
Speaker 4: And then in my rain, I'm like yay, like I
Speaker 4: can't remember the.
Speaker 3: Last one was of hanging out with more than ten people.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, so I guess you're used to doing, you know,
Speaker 2: two three people recording a podcast.
Speaker 3: Booth where Dad Life, Dad Life. Yeah, but i's mind.
Speaker 2: But if you're on like a set and you're like
Speaker 2: you're having to meet a whole bunch of people, like,
Speaker 2: that's when I start playing that game because I'm terrified
Speaker 2: of getting dementia, and so I'm like, we've got to
Speaker 2: be exercising this memory.
Speaker 4: You guys, we've got to be like keeping it, yeah,
Speaker 4: keeping it.
Speaker 2: All that bag. But I will say, as soon as
Speaker 2: I leave a set, I completely forget every single person's
Speaker 2: name on that set.
Speaker 6: So you do that more is also like just a
Speaker 6: courtesy thing as well. Just be like, hey, I know you,
Speaker 6: you you exist, I know your name. I remember You're
Speaker 6: not just another camera person. You're important.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're David and you special.
Speaker 3: I think you're the dB who's going to be lighting
Speaker 3: and shooting me.
Speaker 2: You want me, Yeah, I have to pay lift service
Speaker 2: to you, so you make me look good? No, I
Speaker 2: think that's sort of like it's almost like I challenge
Speaker 2: myself and that's the fun of it. And then like
Speaker 2: the kind of plus, like the positive you know, side
Speaker 2: effect is that then you make everyone around you feel good.
Speaker 2: And I think that's sort of like the perfect nexus
Speaker 2: of like ways to live your life, is that if
Speaker 2: you're having fun and you're making everyone around you feel good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good philosophy.
Speaker 6: Well, my next question is clear as he suggests a
Speaker 6: shirt for brandan when they're in the in the outlet store.
Speaker 6: What does the shirt say?
Speaker 2: It says classy Lassie correct, what on? Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: she's like, I gotta wear the shirt. Waffle House gave.
Speaker 3: Me, dairy Queen gave me, derry queen gave me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what is dairy queen. It's like waffle house. Yeah, it's yeah,
Speaker 3: although it does Americans do things weirdly, as we all know.
Speaker 3: But you can get like many things dairy queen. You
Speaker 3: would assume you would just get like soft serve or
Speaker 3: something like that, but I think you can get like
Speaker 3: Burger's dairy queen.
Speaker 4: I think you get like hot dogs.
Speaker 2: I feel like every restaurant is a fast food restaurant.
Speaker 3: Like a Wendy's. Is it like a Wendy's.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: There's the iconic line from John Cougar Mellencamp song Jack
Speaker 3: and Diane where they're sucking on sucking on chili dogs
Speaker 3: outside the Tasty Freeze or the dairy Queen or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 6: Okay, wait, before my time sucks on a chili dog.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but anyway, I guess you got to do.
Speaker 2: A John Cougar Meloncamp podcast.
Speaker 3: Now we do? Yeah, why not? That's a solo project.
Speaker 3: One more question we'll get into the episode. Marge has
Speaker 3: offered various outfits by her sisters after the demise of
Speaker 3: her Chanelle outfit, which one does she refer to as
Speaker 3: a bit.
Speaker 4: Peppery, oh, the red latex one with this.
Speaker 3: It's the maroon, maroon something, maroon delight, maroon something like that.
Speaker 3: Is it maroon? There's maroon in there? Absolutely?
Speaker 6: Is it maroon fantasy maroons. It is called fantasy in maroon, fantasy.
Speaker 3: In maroon, maroon or maron maroon maroon.
Speaker 6: I say maron usually, I think I thought she said
Speaker 6: maroon on there. Now they say Carmon's had a caramel.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: I say marone, But then I say maroon five.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's yeah, it's weird. That's I swear, that's not
Speaker 6: where it comes from. Maybe it's why I'm saying maroon
Speaker 6: isn't well.
Speaker 3: Probably, I mean, I think it's generally an American term, although yeah,
Speaker 3: marone five just doesn't sound right. You can't animal Levin's
Speaker 3: on the line, So no, man, you fucked it all.
Speaker 6: Is marone's spelt with is moron's spelt the same way
Speaker 6: maroon five is spelled because it was spelt maroon two zero.
Speaker 3: Then it's.
Speaker 6: Why we say maron. It should be maroon right the
Speaker 6: way it's spelt.
Speaker 2: But it's also like maroon is like marooned on an island.
Speaker 3: So I was just about to say that. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: Robinson Cruzo was not marone, not a desert island exactly.
Speaker 3: There we go.
Speaker 2: The other bit I like about that scene is where
Speaker 2: she tries on that really slutty purple dress, and like
Speaker 2: Paty yourself was like I bought this for a Halloween
Speaker 2: costume that it made it into the regular rotation, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I remember watching that being like a
Speaker 2: woman must have written this, because I was like, men
Speaker 2: don't buy things for slutty Halloween costumes, and that it
Speaker 2: made like I was like, that would never I was like,
Speaker 2: I think my thought was somebody asked their girlfriend about
Speaker 2: this or something like.
Speaker 6: I was just it was very It's interesting A lot
Speaker 6: of time you watch it and you go you can
Speaker 6: tell when something has been written by a woman. On
Speaker 6: the Simpsons, and particularly the March episodes, like you can
Speaker 6: you can genuinely tell. Yeah, but but this episode here
Speaker 6: scenes from the class Struggle in Springfield originally aired February fourth,
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 3: What were You doing? February fourth, nineteen ninety sixteen.
Speaker 4: I was three.
Speaker 3: You're three. Yeah, actually I was two two. Wait I
Speaker 3: wasn't even two and a half. Bathurst. Is that where
Speaker 3: you grew up Bathurst? Is that right?
Speaker 2: I grew up in Sydney, but I moved to bath
Speaker 2: for university.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and to pursue your car racing career.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well of course I did.
Speaker 2: I got thirteen speeding fines and I was like, you
Speaker 2: can't shure the cop So you're training for the Births
Speaker 2: one thousand on the Great Western Highway at two o'clock
Speaker 2: in the morning.
Speaker 4: It's good. At least they didn't bathalyze me.
Speaker 2: At the same time, at least beeding cameras can't breathalyze you,
Speaker 2: is all I'll say.
Speaker 6: Are you Are you a speed demon these days?
Speaker 2: No? Sometimes, like I don't know what it is about.
Speaker 2: Like when I'm in Sydney, I know the rules, Like
Speaker 2: I know the road so well that I know to
Speaker 2: look what to look out for a different city. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know this, like you know like where the signs are.
Speaker 2: Like it's very it feels I'm fluent in Sydney road language.
Speaker 2: But then when I went to Brisbane to shoot deadlock,
Speaker 2: I just I found I've sped so much that like
Speaker 2: now I cannot legally drive in Queensland, and I don't
Speaker 2: even know where I was speeding too, Like I have
Speaker 2: no real recollection. But I remember getting lost a lot,
Speaker 2: and then I remember being angry when I got lost,
Speaker 2: like it would be like fifteen minutes to your destination
Speaker 2: and then you take a wrong turn and it's like
Speaker 2: forty five minutes to your destination and then I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 2: I gotta, like, you know, catch up. And I think
Speaker 2: it was in those times that I did speed, but
Speaker 2: in my brain I was like, well took me the
Speaker 2: wrong way, so like it's my god given right to
Speaker 2: do one hundred and forty in a seventy zone. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I cont legally driving Queenside now. But in Sydney, I'm
Speaker 2: very obedient. I'd say I respect the rules of my town.
Speaker 6: But visioning your like highway patrol And it's like Nina
Speaker 6: was incarcerated. Were these all speed fines that you just
Speaker 6: got in the mail or were you pulled over and
Speaker 6: the cart was like, Nina, this is the tenth fine.
Speaker 2: No, they were all they were all cameras, all cameras
Speaker 2: on the Great Western Highway, like they were pretty much
Speaker 2: all at Mount Vick. I think there was, because it's
Speaker 2: like this one moment where it's it's a hundred, it's
Speaker 2: sixty to one hundred, and I think in my brain,
Speaker 2: I'm always I was always like, well, the hundred's coming up,
Speaker 2: and then I would go one hundred and then they'd
Speaker 2: be like, you've gone thirty five kilometers over the speed limit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got my license taken away.
Speaker 2: Well, I got it suspended twice, and then I got
Speaker 2: it suspended for a third time. Plus I had to
Speaker 2: do like six months of no driving during that time
Speaker 2: so that I could reapply for my license.
Speaker 3: So then when I drive during that time, I'm assuming
Speaker 3: by accident.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't drive during I drove what was it
Speaker 2: was six months. I didn't drive for like nine months,
Speaker 2: and then I was like, well, I've done my you know, sabbatical,
Speaker 2: like it's time for me to drive again. And then
Speaker 2: I drove for six months more. And then I went
Speaker 2: to the RTA and I was like, hello, like, I'd
Speaker 2: like to renew my license because I think it it
Speaker 2: was time for me to get my green peas or something.
Speaker 2: And they were like, you're legally not allowed to drive
Speaker 2: right now, you had to do your three months of suspension.
Speaker 2: Then you had to come into the RTA and do
Speaker 2: another road rules test as if you were going for
Speaker 2: your peas the first time and so and then they
Speaker 2: were like, and now you have to do it one
Speaker 2: more year on your peas. So even though I got
Speaker 2: my first red peas when I was twenty, I think
Speaker 2: I didn't get onto my full license until I was
Speaker 2: like twenty eight or twenty nine.
Speaker 4: Because look, Sydney's walkable. Sydney's a public transport city.
Speaker 2: It's fairly walkable. Don't worry.
Speaker 4: Everyone's safe.
Speaker 2: Everyone cast Citney and I'm so sorry if you ever
Speaker 2: see me on the road.
Speaker 6: Well we're thankfully not quite in the city. We're in
Speaker 6: a place called Geelong, which you know. Do you know
Speaker 6: where Gelong is? It's like an hour drive from Melbourne.
Speaker 6: Well it's an hour drive for most people. It's half
Speaker 6: an alphabina.
Speaker 2: It would be down down south below Melbourne, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: down down south, Yeah, that's it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The cats, the Geelong cat.
Speaker 3: Geelong Cats. There you go. You want our hearts.
Speaker 6: So February fourth, nineteen ninety six, the top three we
Speaker 6: do talk of the top three films at US box
Speaker 6: office when It's episode aired, and the top three were
Speaker 6: Mister Holland's Opens at number three, The Jura, which never
Speaker 6: heard of, at number two, and Black Sheep, the comedy
Speaker 6: with Farley at number one.
Speaker 2: I haven't never heard of any of these films.
Speaker 3: You heard of Chris Farley?
Speaker 4: Right, of course, I've heard of Chris.
Speaker 2: I ain't watching Black Sheep. No.
Speaker 6: He did a bunch of films in the nineties with
Speaker 6: what's his face? Bade, didn't we Spade.
Speaker 3: Spade had a great line about this, I think on
Speaker 3: one of the Snel retrospectives goes. I think he was
Speaker 3: doing a tribute to Farley, and he said, me and
Speaker 3: Chris Farley made a great movie called Tommy Boy, and
Speaker 3: another movie called Black Sheep.
Speaker 2: Tommy Boy was supposed to be iconic.
Speaker 3: Though well was number one. When Spade was on, he
Speaker 3: was on, he was good. The Duror is, as you
Speaker 3: might guess, illegal through a little bit of a John
Speaker 3: grishamknoff off with Demi Moore and Alec Baldwin and mister Holns.
Speaker 3: Obis is kind of a Dead Poets Sciarding knockoff, except
Speaker 3: Richard Dreyfus is a music teacher with a deaf son, and.
Speaker 6: Speaking of our household, because my mom's mum, my grandmother,
Speaker 6: she's deaf, so she's been deaf since birth, so suddenly,
Speaker 6: which has always been a thing in our house, So
Speaker 6: that movie was always getting rotation in the Dando household.
Speaker 6: There we go, Yeah, all right, but yeah, so Cauch
Speaker 6: gave for this one. The living room is bathed in
Speaker 6: black light her it turns a light on, and everything
Speaker 6: it was returned to normal. The episode keeps off of
Speaker 6: the family watching the Bumblebee Man on TV doing his
Speaker 6: sketch comedy show. Grandpa is not a fan of it,
Speaker 6: so he wants to change the channel and just completely
Speaker 6: fucks the TV up, doesn't he does?
Speaker 3: Indeed, Yes, I mean you may not have guessed. I've
Speaker 3: got a few more years on the both of you.
Speaker 2: I thought you were just bored when you were like
Speaker 2: thirty years old.
Speaker 3: Man, that's true. It's forty five. I'm looking great for
Speaker 3: forty five. Yes, I do recall the day when televisions
Speaker 3: were big, boxy items that were made of wires and lights.
Speaker 3: I still just remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so live so I like, come on.
Speaker 6: It wasn't until like what to mid early two thousands
Speaker 6: that they actually became flat screen TVs like a whole
Speaker 6: new world. I still want to getting that first. The
Speaker 6: first big TV we got when we were kids was
Speaker 6: an eighty centimeter big Sony television, and I remember the
Speaker 6: first thing we put on was The Simpsons and it
Speaker 6: just felt like I was like, we're in the cinema
Speaker 6: and I looked back around, like eighty centimeter TV.
Speaker 3: It felt so big at the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now that's just sort of like a computer
Speaker 2: monitor or something like.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's nothing. Yeah, yeah, true.
Speaker 2: I remember when we got a big TV you had
Speaker 2: to change it was too bright, and there was like
Speaker 2: a special button that would bring the brightness down so
Speaker 2: your eyes weren't singed by the colors.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you might be able to see behind me.
Speaker 6: I'm sure I've can see me. Maybe not, but you
Speaker 6: see it on the other camera. But I've got an
Speaker 6: old school TV like the ones used to have in
Speaker 6: the nineties or whatnot. And the kids put it on
Speaker 6: to play my old school at Saga and Nintendo and whatnot.
Speaker 6: And you put it on, you just hear this like
Speaker 6: a hiss sound. It's just pollution in the air. Just
Speaker 6: this radiation, like this is not.
Speaker 3: Good, the gears turning inside.
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Speaker 6: slash four fingure Discount. But they it cuts to them
Speaker 6: dropping Grandpa off at the old folks home. Is it
Speaker 6: on their way to get a new TV?
Speaker 2: I love that, like ruthless, like just full putt it
Speaker 2: like it's just like this guy's not going to be
Speaker 2: the Like just you know, it's such a good hard cut.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, you.
Speaker 6: Don't need them being angry at him. It's just cut
Speaker 6: to him being dropped, just like.
Speaker 2: That guy.
Speaker 6: But Bar suggests they get the one from the It
Speaker 6: looks like a fifty is Dyna Lisa once one assembled
Speaker 6: by Hope Indians as you were saying earlier, and marches
Speaker 6: they can't afford to shop any sort that has the
Speaker 6: philosophy it's going to go to the outlet more in Ogdenville,
Speaker 6: and Ogdenville is one of the places that remember the
Speaker 6: monorail episode Nina, That's where le Lanley sells one of
Speaker 6: the monorails to Ogdenville. Oh yeah, and they have to
Speaker 6: go down a paved road which ends in sixty four
Speaker 6: miles and then the former Japanese internment camp ninety miles.
Speaker 6: Ogdenville is now two hundred and seventy seven miles. I
Speaker 6: think I was like four hundred and thirty miles or something.
Speaker 6: It's how far the out to travel, which is how
Speaker 6: far in kilometers? It's one point six miles. No maths.
Speaker 3: Sorry. If we do have catchphrases on the show, one
Speaker 3: of them was my understanding there would be no math. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So they arrived at the Appliant zone as the son
Speaker 6: is setting. They've been driving all day your gray Market superstore,
Speaker 6: and this whole scene is just ledible for me because, like,
Speaker 6: we never had a great deal of money when I
Speaker 6: was growing up, so Mum was always one a stickler
Speaker 6: for finding a bargain. You know, I'd be like, Mum,
Speaker 6: it's only like ten dollars. But this is ten dollars
Speaker 6: cheap or we can use it.
Speaker 3: To buy bread and milk? And I'm like, okay, mom,
Speaker 3: So I watched it. This is minds.
Speaker 6: We were going shopping with mum. She's always looking for
Speaker 6: the bargain.
Speaker 3: Also looking to feed a child.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, feeder chart. Well you can get a name
Speaker 2: brand ba Bleed.
Speaker 6: You know, yeah yeah, but we always got like we
Speaker 6: go the Sunday We got the Sunday Market, just the
Speaker 6: market down at the local racetrack, and it was like
Speaker 6: all these knockoff clothes and we ended up getting all
Speaker 6: that and got kids.
Speaker 3: They can't tell the difference, but I knew.
Speaker 6: But it's like I used to go to go to
Speaker 6: school feeling so cool because I had the popular clothes,
Speaker 6: you know, the branded clothes there. Remember a thing called
Speaker 6: data Ali g used to wear it. Remember data Data.
Speaker 6: Everyone was wearing it where I was from anyway. And
Speaker 6: my Mom's like, we can't afford that. And we went
Speaker 6: to the Sunday Market. Remember they had of like ten bucks,
Speaker 6: and I was like, finally I can fit in. I've
Speaker 6: got this, got the same jackets everybody else. Look back
Speaker 6: now and I'm like, these jacks are terrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're also like I met like because we
Speaker 2: had the same at Patty's Markets and they would have
Speaker 2: like knockoff Chanelle. Like I remember buying like little like
Speaker 2: ten dollars Chanel earrings and be like I'm gout Chanelle earrings,
Speaker 2: but it was like they weren't real. Like I don't
Speaker 2: think I've owned a single like real great brand name
Speaker 2: thing in my entire life.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Dimmi's is a New South Wales
Speaker 3: thing at all. It's like like Target, but it was
Speaker 3: like the lower next level there. It was like you know,
Speaker 3: level two.
Speaker 6: But it's not Team you tell me whatever it's called, well.
Speaker 3: Something like that, but a department store, but it would
Speaker 3: sort of get seconds or knockoffs, but it would occasionally
Speaker 3: had like legitimate brands and sometimes from overseas. I remember
Speaker 3: going in there and sort of going through the t
Speaker 3: the T shirt racks. It's like, I think this is legit,
Speaker 3: Abercrombie and Fitch. I mean you could feel like the
Speaker 3: weight of the of the T shirt. It's like and
Speaker 3: it was something like twenty bucks or something, which was
Speaker 3: a little pricey, but also it's like I think this
Speaker 3: might be kind of a bargain, and you would just
Speaker 3: you would honestly be like Indiana fucking Joanes. It's like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I've discovered, you know, this grand treasure
Speaker 3: mittle more than garbage wild.
Speaker 6: But yeah, Homer is stunned by by the crappy knockoffs
Speaker 6: like the Panaphonics and the magnet Box Sawny.
Speaker 3: Yes, my personal favorite is the Sawny Is sawn is
Speaker 3: so funny, the Sawny.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Shopping like this though, for me, I find that I'm
Speaker 6: a big Lego fan, but I don't need the legit Lego.
Speaker 6: So whenever I see a new Lego is being released,
Speaker 6: I go on Ali Express, Yes, and I just find
Speaker 6: the Lego knockoffs. And I've got all these Legos. Now
Speaker 6: you paid like a hundred bucks for it, but you
Speaker 6: go to the store, it's like twelve hundred and I'm
Speaker 6: not paying that.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just plastic. It's Lego.
Speaker 6: But I've got I've got friends who need to have
Speaker 6: they need that brand, they need that the knowledge of
Speaker 6: going I've got the real one. I'm like, ye see,
Speaker 6: I don't but yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is where
Speaker 6: wise Guy comes over the salesman and he convinces him
Speaker 6: to get the cannavalle. It's two pronged wall plug, pre molded,
Speaker 6: hand grip, well durable, out of casing to prevent fall aparts.
Speaker 2: One of it's just like parts of a tiv A
Speaker 2: hand grip, durable, the casing to prevent fall apart. Look
Speaker 2: at you, low low prices on famous brand name electronics.
Speaker 2: Oh be a sap.
Speaker 1: Dad, These are just crappy knockoffs.
Speaker 8: I know a genuine Panaphonics when I see it, and
Speaker 8: look jerious magnet bugs and sorny.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 8: I'm not going to delay to you. Those are all
Speaker 8: superior machines. But if you like to watch your TV,
Speaker 8: and I mean really watch it, you want the kind
Speaker 8: of valley. It features two pronged wall plug, pre molded
Speaker 8: hand the grip, well durable, outer casing to prevent fall apart.
Speaker 7: Sold.
Speaker 3: You wrap it up, I'll start bringing in the pennies.
Speaker 6: Wise Guy, that's what it's what he's called wise Guy
Speaker 6: because he's such a versatile character that can put him
Speaker 6: into any episode and he just he fits and he
Speaker 6: works in any job. Do you have any favorite side
Speaker 6: characters of the Simpsons, Nina, Oh oh, you mentioned bleeding
Speaker 6: Gumers Murphy the episode before.
Speaker 4: Like you like, yeah, I love his relationship with Lisa.
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting because I think Lisa is the
Speaker 2: character that I most relate to the Simpsons, and I
Speaker 2: think it makes sense because my family dynamic was like
Speaker 2: sister and brother and two parents, like it was the
Speaker 2: same sort of genetic makeup. Oh yeah, and Maggie's there,
Speaker 2: but we didn't fuck Maggie.
Speaker 3: She doesn't come yeah exactly.
Speaker 4: She's a baby, like who case, she's a baby forever.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think I like, I love, I love
Speaker 2: that that's her sort of like arc is that she's
Speaker 2: sort of seen by like one mentor and that's sort
Speaker 2: of like the thing that sustains her.
Speaker 6: And she's the only one that really worships him as well,
Speaker 6: you know, she's like yeah, biggest fan.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But meanwhile, speaking of Lisa and Marge, they're stepping out
Speaker 3: the fashion mart. They've got a bra barrel you can
Speaker 3: browse through at the front, and Marge and Lisa that
Speaker 3: they don't know who these closed the fall? Who are they? Look?
Speaker 3: Who are these four?
Speaker 6: And we cut to cleat Us and he suggests the
Speaker 6: shit for Brandy, And we were discussing earlier, and then
Speaker 6: this is what Lisa finds the Chanelle suit. Now, Marge says, she, well,
Speaker 6: she can't believe it's a real Chanel. She holds it
Speaker 6: the tag and you can't actually see the word Chanelle.
Speaker 2: Meant to be a real Chanel, right like totally.
Speaker 6: Like, But the thing is they this is a theory
Speaker 6: we still don't know to this day. Is it meant
Speaker 6: to be a knockoff Chanelle or is it actually a
Speaker 6: Chanell that's actually marked down and damaged in some way?
Speaker 6: And they're because they weren't allowed to use the word
Speaker 6: show the word Chanelle on the show, which is why
Speaker 6: that's why her finger covers it, but also creates the
Speaker 6: hypothetical of, well, maybe it's not a real Chanelle. She
Speaker 6: didn't read the tag properly. What theory are you going with?
Speaker 2: I sort of like that it's not a real Chanel.
Speaker 2: I like that because then it's sort of like the
Speaker 2: foundation of her confidence is already. It's like she's placing
Speaker 2: all her bets on this suit that she thinks is
Speaker 2: high quality, but all along it never is. And I
Speaker 2: kind of like that that it's you know, it's given
Speaker 2: her this superpower to fit into this, you know, upper
Speaker 2: cross league. But actually it's not even about the suit
Speaker 2: at the end of the day. It's about the power
Speaker 2: that she abus onto it, even though she thinks is
Speaker 2: all the suit, which I think is more sad in
Speaker 2: a way because it's like she doesn't need the suit,
Speaker 2: you know, narratively.
Speaker 4: But I meant it could be a real Chanelle.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess it's marked down from twenty
Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that could just be part of the stick. Maybe
Speaker 6: they put a tag on it cross out of twenty
Speaker 6: eight hundred to make it feel like a real Chanel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you think.
Speaker 6: Well, I've always just thought it was a real Chanelle
Speaker 6: and she just you know, got a bit. The more
Speaker 6: I think about it, I'm like, it actually works better
Speaker 6: like you're saying, if it's not a real chaneal, because
Speaker 6: it just plays into the idea of all these people
Speaker 6: started accepting her basic a fake piece of merchandise.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's more bittersweet, but it's I don't know,
Speaker 2: I always like the sadder option or the.
Speaker 3: More in every aspect of life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm drawn to it. I don't know what.
Speaker 6: But Marge checks herself out in the mirror. Fits like
Speaker 6: a dream. As you're saying earlier, though, if it was
Speaker 6: a suit we could all wear, then maybe I'd buy it.
Speaker 6: And it's just it's classic Marge, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And even the fact that Lisa is like, come on, mom,
Speaker 2: like you never get to yeah, to do something.
Speaker 6: My wife is very much like this. She will never
Speaker 6: spend money on herself. I'll go I'll go up and say, look,
Speaker 6: I'll take the kids over here. You go buy yourself
Speaker 6: some shirts or just go shopping for a couple of hours.
Speaker 6: She's like, nah, we don't need it. I'm like, I
Speaker 6: know you don't need new shirts, but sometimes you just
Speaker 6: have to treat yourself. You know, you're just the idea
Speaker 6: of going there and not worrying about the money, just
Speaker 6: buying something you want as opposed to need.
Speaker 3: I love it, I know about.
Speaker 2: You, but there's nothing good in the shops. I think
Speaker 2: it's such a thing like women style. It's so particular,
Speaker 2: Like if you drop me off at like a mole,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would want to buy anything there. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think if you said to.
Speaker 2: Your partner, hey, jump on asos and browse to your
Speaker 2: heart's content that would be like, that would be a
Speaker 2: good present, rather than being like, go to the.
Speaker 3: Mall because why is it? Is it? Because it is?
Speaker 6: It more like a personal thing because you just it's
Speaker 6: just you shopping. You don't like to shop with other people.
Speaker 6: Why do you think that is a better option.
Speaker 2: Well, I think even though everyone's on the internet looking
Speaker 2: at the same stuff, basically I feel like it feels
Speaker 2: more bespoke to you because there are more choices, and
Speaker 2: then therefore there's more ways that you can like curate
Speaker 2: clothes that feel uniquely you, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4: When you're in General Pants.
Speaker 2: There's like five jackets and you're like, well, I guess
Speaker 2: like and then you'll see someone out and then you'll
Speaker 2: they'll be wearing the same jacket as you, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm not special in my special jacket. Like I bought
Speaker 2: this jacket from General Pants and it is great and
Speaker 2: I wear it all the time, but I just see guys.
Speaker 2: It's a man's jacket, and I just see like random
Speaker 2: like tech bros wearing it and I'm like, oh do
Speaker 2: I look like that?
Speaker 4: But then I get cold and then I have to
Speaker 4: wear it because.
Speaker 2: I'll freeze to death and so you know, and it
Speaker 2: looks it's kind of chic, but it's like there is
Speaker 2: this sort of thing where it doesn't it doesn't feel
Speaker 2: as specific to you. We don't feel as special wearing
Speaker 2: this thing that you chose uniquely because you thought that
Speaker 2: it displayed your personality. Like Guy Montgomery has a really
Speaker 2: good here's a good bit about clothes, which is like,
Speaker 2: when you buy clothes, you're choosing the person that you
Speaker 2: want to be. And I think nobody wants to be
Speaker 2: like anyone else like or Yeah. I don't think there's
Speaker 2: something about like, you know, coming to school on a
Speaker 2: muffy day and someone's wearing the same shirt as you,
Speaker 2: and you're like, what the fuck? Like don't you know.
Speaker 6: My daughter goes to a party. She's like, my daughter's
Speaker 6: like I'm Alsa, not you.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. They're like this bitch also okame as Elsa,
Speaker 2: you know, like how dash Sheep covers this thing that
Speaker 2: every this movie that every single kid has what.
Speaker 4: Yeah and identified with.
Speaker 2: But I think I think there is something that like
Speaker 2: it takes away from your uniqueness in regards to your identity,
Speaker 2: and it also it's it's it's almost like I chose
Speaker 2: the most boring hack thing. You know, it's it's a
Speaker 2: bit of self hate there as well.
Speaker 6: It's actually a valid point because now that I think
Speaker 6: about it, I'm very much someone likes to be an
Speaker 6: individual with what I wear and whatnot, like just like branded,
Speaker 6: not a brand, a bit like pop culture shirts and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was gonna say, you strike me as like
Speaker 2: one of those guys that's always were like you're wearing
Speaker 2: like a Nacotomy Plaza shirt or like a frickin like
Speaker 2: one of those things that is like a dog whistle
Speaker 2: for the specific pop.
Speaker 4: Culture you're displaying.
Speaker 2: But it's not like it's not like the Jurassic Park logo,
Speaker 2: but it is like a reference to like vandalate industries
Speaker 2: or whatever. Like you know. That's I think, Like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you guys definitely strike me as those sis people, and
Speaker 2: I'm that person too, Like I feel like I also
Speaker 2: do that because I think it's a great way to
Speaker 2: meet friends.
Speaker 3: It just wears a face. That's all you wear.
Speaker 2: Oh really, that's.
Speaker 3: So chic, Yes, but I do just like all the
Speaker 3: other girls, I've got my secret pop culture T shirt underneath.
Speaker 3: You know, that's that's not for everybody. That's the dand
Speaker 3: same for everybody, only the sexy people.
Speaker 4: What's your shirt? This one with the green in the movie.
Speaker 3: This is him or me?
Speaker 2: You me?
Speaker 6: This is a return of the Jedi Boba Fetts. It's
Speaker 6: got return the Jedi poster on the back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not going to ask what I'm wearing wearing
Speaker 3: the boring that. But you said green, I was like green.
Speaker 4: Oh, in my they both look black to me. Those colors.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, no, I guess now.
Speaker 2: That you say it, it's sort of like a bottle green.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 6: My eyes are good as you're saying though that that
Speaker 6: I do find that maybe I look online because there's
Speaker 6: the idea of well, I'm shopping at an obscure website.
Speaker 6: No one else I know I'm going to see in
Speaker 6: your life will have that shirt on, because I do
Speaker 6: hate that feeling of getting a shirt, especially when I
Speaker 6: bought it online and I've gone, oh, motherfucker, you went
Speaker 6: to the same website as me.
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 4: Hmm.
Speaker 2: It's like when you go to a concert and you
Speaker 2: buy like that concerts.
Speaker 4: Shirt like I went to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to a music festival to see Lana
Speaker 2: del Ray, which is already, Like I'm.
Speaker 4: Like the other girls going to a music festival to
Speaker 4: see Lana del Ray.
Speaker 2: But there was a specific Premavira Sound Lana del Ray
Speaker 2: t shirt that was like twenty eighth of May, and
Speaker 2: I wear it with such pride because I'm like, you
Speaker 2: have to have gone to this specific Spanish music festival
Speaker 2: to fully appreciate the gravitas of this t shirt. But
Speaker 2: if someone brings it up, I'm like, that's my friend,
Speaker 2: Like it's like this secret language.
Speaker 6: I remember when this takes me back, but when Kings
Speaker 6: of Leon became really popular with sex Fire right, and
Speaker 6: I like Kings of Leon one before they sex on
Speaker 6: Firearm came out. Like I remember going to a Pearl
Speaker 6: Jam concert just to watch them open in like two
Speaker 6: thousand and five or something. I remember I had a
Speaker 6: two shirt of Kings of Leon from like two thousand
Speaker 6: and four, two thousand and five or whatever, long before
Speaker 6: they hit it big, and I used to wear that
Speaker 6: one at the concerts, going that's right, I was a
Speaker 6: fan before you were. I used to get annoyed that
Speaker 6: people like, I'm like, this was my band. Now everyone
Speaker 6: likes them.
Speaker 3: This isn't fair. You've ruined the band for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now no one likes Kings.
Speaker 6: I don't think they even like themselves anymore. I haven't
Speaker 6: listened to things of me on song and forever. But yeah,
Speaker 6: at least they were honestly. They came out and they said, look,
Speaker 6: we're tired of making no money, so we decided to
Speaker 6: write songs that made money. And I was like, at
Speaker 6: least you can openly admit that.
Speaker 3: More power too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they chose to go to the country club.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're happy. I'm sure they're happy. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but Marge's happy as well with this new dress
Speaker 6: she walks in. She puts the record on, which is
Speaker 6: very sophisticated and home.
Speaker 2: It's like, wait, there is one more line that I
Speaker 2: want to shout out, which is she She's like, she's
Speaker 2: really up in arms about this dress, and she's and
Speaker 2: Lisa's like, just do it for yourself, and she's like,
Speaker 2: and then she goes, it'll stimulate the economy.
Speaker 3: For the economy. Yeah, she has to.
Speaker 6: Justify it to herself. She can't just buy something. There's
Speaker 6: got to be a reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just selfish, it's for the economy. Like
Speaker 2: it's just I was just like that's perfect.
Speaker 3: You look great?
Speaker 2: Really, you like it?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'd love to wear There's someplace.
Speaker 2: Special Spirit lux Carefeteria.
Speaker 3: It is m What about this symphony or the theater?
Speaker 3: Oh God, what's the point of going out? We're just
Speaker 3: gonna wind up back here anyway.
Speaker 6: What's the point going in? It's gonna winder back here anyway.
Speaker 6: And I finally we're married now for like thirteen years,
Speaker 6: got two kids, and it's just like that's just my life.
Speaker 3: Man. Eh.
Speaker 6: Where's your go to when you're going out for dinner?
Speaker 3: Look? What are you? An? Indian cuisine? Chinese cuisine?
Speaker 4: My favorite place to go for dinner. I'm not vegan,
Speaker 4: but my favorite place to go.
Speaker 2: For dinner is a vegan place called Golden Lotus in Newtown.
Speaker 2: And they do this luxA that is like just so
Speaker 2: fantastic and they it's full of like fake meat and
Speaker 2: it's all in like these different like crunchy shapes and sizes.
Speaker 2: And for some reason, that's like my favorite meal ever
Speaker 2: to go out to get.
Speaker 3: Where can we find them? Let's let's make you a spokesperson, dude.
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 4: It's in Sydney, in Newtown.
Speaker 2: It's like in the heart of like Hipsterville and again
Speaker 2: it's vegan like.
Speaker 3: But it's it's all the boxes.
Speaker 2: Oh good, Yeah, I don't even I'm not a vegan.
Speaker 2: I love meat, but Golden Lotus is just like if
Speaker 2: you need like a good meal that's full of vegetables
Speaker 2: and mystery fake meat.
Speaker 4: But it's like a luxA.
Speaker 2: So it's like the like with the herbs and the spices,
Speaker 2: and the flavor of the soup is like on another level.
Speaker 2: But that's that's my go to sort of place.
Speaker 3: Sounds like full finger Discound's got a new sponsor.
Speaker 6: Plus luxA is just a fun word to say. It
Speaker 6: just sounds fun. I'm gonna have a luxe.
Speaker 4: It's good.
Speaker 2: I just I find curry is too heavy and like soup,
Speaker 2: like a clear soup is like too flavorless. But a
Speaker 2: luxA it's.
Speaker 4: Like it's just right.
Speaker 2: You know, it's called Goldilocks, the Goldilocks equation.
Speaker 6: But then we get, as you're mentioned earlier, that the
Speaker 6: cutaway scene where you think they're at the opera, but no,
Speaker 6: she's watching on the TV wearing her So basically there's
Speaker 6: so much to this scene. Firstly, you think that maybe
Speaker 6: Homer actually did give in to March and she.
Speaker 3: Got her wish.
Speaker 6: But no, she's still stuck at home, but wearing this
Speaker 6: amazing suit doing her usual chore of doing the vacuuming
Speaker 6: at the end of the day the TV shit as well,
Speaker 6: so like nothing's gone right. But she's at the Quickie
Speaker 6: mark though, and a Pooh notices that.
Speaker 4: She's looking prosperous today.
Speaker 6: Yes, indeed, but I noticed he the quickiemt has a
Speaker 6: self we call a self servi servo here in Australia.
Speaker 6: The self service gas station never appears in an episode
Speaker 6: of the Quickie Mart of The Simpsons before. It's just
Speaker 6: randomly here for this episode. Really, yeah, but just for
Speaker 6: the sake of the story, there's a a petrol pump
Speaker 6: out the front's never usually there.
Speaker 4: That's so funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't thought about that.
Speaker 6: And in case you missed it from the exterior shot
Speaker 6: when Marge approaches a Pooh, it's front and center in
Speaker 6: between them in the background and when it's just says
Speaker 6: self service, Like, just in case you're not aware, quickiemite
Speaker 6: has one of these now for the sake of what's
Speaker 6: about to happen in the episode.
Speaker 2: Man, I bought it.
Speaker 4: I didn't even clock that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he suggests some impulse novelty item for the
Speaker 6: crazy motor rise wiggle pen and whatnot. Boy, those things
Speaker 6: are legitimate. I mean you go to the k mats
Speaker 6: and whatnot now and you get to the registers and
Speaker 6: there's just things for kids to grab in every direction.
Speaker 6: It's so frustrating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I love that story wise, like that's a
Speaker 2: response to her perceived wealth. And that's so funny that
Speaker 2: he's like, you're looking rich, can I interest you in like.
Speaker 3: A crazy pen? Craziness?
Speaker 2: Craziness And that's like sort of the first twinge like that.
Speaker 2: It's like it's so I just find the symptoms is
Speaker 2: incredible from a story perspective because they have such stringent A,
Speaker 2: B and C structures and large is obviously the A story.
Speaker 2: And so like she gets the suit, like Lisa says,
Speaker 2: she looks good, Homer says, she looks good, Poho says
Speaker 2: she looks rich. Like there's all these like micro moments
Speaker 2: where her self esteem in her awareness that she looks
Speaker 2: rich is growing. And I think that like just a
Speaker 2: response where he's like, get this crazy pen is like
Speaker 2: amazing to me.
Speaker 6: That's why that's why they pay you the big bucks
Speaker 6: as a writer, you know, well.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's my job.
Speaker 2: I love doing podcasts where you have to watch something
Speaker 2: because it's because you do have to notice.
Speaker 6: The like I'm the and you may never have noticed
Speaker 6: them if you were just watching it casually.
Speaker 2: No, And it's also this thing of like you if,
Speaker 2: like if Marge brought the suit and then ran into Evelyn,
Speaker 2: it's not believable. It's not earned.
Speaker 4: That's what we call it.
Speaker 2: Were like you haven't earned that moment because you know,
Speaker 2: the slow slide into her richness and her vibe is
Speaker 2: not believable. But because like Lisa said, she looks good,
Speaker 2: like Homer says she look good, and who says she
Speaker 2: looks rich, that's when we believe that Evelyn would believe
Speaker 2: that she looks rich.
Speaker 6: These seed plants, Yeah, a crash course in writing right there.
Speaker 6: I don't even realize that.
Speaker 4: I hope this is helpful and not too deeply nerdy.
Speaker 3: No, it's great. Yeah, I love this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: That's why we do this.
Speaker 6: But yes, this is where Evelyn does arrive, and I
Speaker 6: was love. They quickly just established that this character isn't
Speaker 6: from the same social scene. Because first of all, she
Speaker 6: wants someone else to pump her gas, and she's like, well,
Speaker 6: I can't do it myself, and off the culture blake
Speaker 6: like this, shed Kin'd even do the basics like that,
Speaker 6: So clearly she's from a different social scene. And Marge
Speaker 6: says that she used to be overwhelmed by it as well,
Speaker 6: but she can show me how to do it, and
Speaker 6: Evelyn notices her, and I think I heard you married
Speaker 6: Homer Simpson and we discussed all that, and I just
Speaker 6: feel it's pretty sad here that Marge. Do you think
Speaker 6: Marge knew it was Evelyn from the get go, but
Speaker 6: it was too embarrassed to think that, well, maybe she
Speaker 6: doesn't recognize me, so I'm not gonna introduce myself.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely absolutely. And I think we've all had that
Speaker 2: with people that like are cooler than us in high school.
Speaker 2: Like I went to a pilates class the other day
Speaker 2: for the first time ever. Please I'm not like a
Speaker 2: girl that goes to pilates, but I want to be.
Speaker 2: But the teacher was this girl at my school who
Speaker 2: was like a model and I think still is a model,
Speaker 2: and she was terrifying to me, and I didn't want
Speaker 2: to say like, she was like, who hasn't done piltis before?
Speaker 4: And I had to put my hand up and be
Speaker 4: like hi, like I've never done palatis before.
Speaker 2: And then she looked at me and she goes Ah
Speaker 2: high school and I was like, oh no. But then
Speaker 2: it was fine, but it was this thing of like
Speaker 2: somebody that I have thought was cooler than me, my
Speaker 2: whole life is now seeing me and I'm in this
Speaker 2: position of you know, it's like, what's our new dynamic.
Speaker 2: I also wanted to flag a poo pretends not to
Speaker 2: be able to speak English because and that's such a
Speaker 2: like indictment on Evelyn's character. It's like Evelyn's character is
Speaker 2: so awful to service workers and people of color that
Speaker 2: a Pooh pretends to not speak English to get her
Speaker 2: out of there. I think that's such a telling moment
Speaker 2: as well.
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Speaker 1: Ninety percent of the time if the gas isn't pumping,
Speaker 1: This is your.
Speaker 3: Pram automotive skills and fashion sense.
Speaker 2: Well, you come a long way from the girl I
Speaker 2: knew nothing about in high school.
Speaker 1: We ran with different crouch. You had your debutante bags
Speaker 1: and skinny dipping and I had my home shoe repair
Speaker 1: of corseh.
Speaker 2: It does feel true. I do think that's sort of
Speaker 2: like a I don't know, it does feel like the
Speaker 2: cool kids are more sexually active earlier, like and I
Speaker 2: think that's a reference to that without saying that, Like
Speaker 2: skinny dipping is like and.
Speaker 6: Even Marge's kind of like hesitant to say skinny dipping.
Speaker 6: She was like too racy, you know, yes.
Speaker 3: Puper class tobauchery. Yeah, they operate by different rules.
Speaker 4: Just another way.
Speaker 2: Marge is completely secular, sexless.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but she invites the Simpsons to the country club
Speaker 6: and Marge can't believe it. But then is when mister
Speaker 6: Burns arrives in a Ford quadricycle, he says, filled up
Speaker 6: petroleum distillate and revulcanize my tires post taste. We do
Speaker 6: love it when mister Burns is just old right.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 6: But the Ford Quadricycle, fun fact, was the first vehicle
Speaker 6: ever developed by Henry Ford. It was the first Ford car.
Speaker 6: That's the joke that I was so old that he
Speaker 6: has the very first Ford car. It was a simple
Speaker 6: frame with a gas powered engine mounted onto four bicycles wheels.
Speaker 6: The first one was sold for two hundred dollars in
Speaker 6: eighteen ninety sixty equivalent of Australian dollars eleven thousand, seven
Speaker 6: hundred and thirty seven. Now it seems pretty cheap for
Speaker 6: a car.
Speaker 3: The prototypical e bike.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, I heard there's like lots of you know,
Speaker 2: model ty forwards in the rivers around around America, just
Speaker 2: upside down in the river.
Speaker 6: The mister Burns is old gags, Not that I didn't
Speaker 6: find them funny as a kid, I just didn't get them.
Speaker 6: That is, it was just funny sounds like he funny
Speaker 6: words and whatnot. Like here, you know, the horn, the
Speaker 6: sound and the gear that he's wearing. That's what was
Speaker 6: funny to me as a kid. But as you get old,
Speaker 6: you're like, oh it's an it's the original Ford car.
Speaker 4: See that's the just that joke went over my head.
Speaker 2: I was like, only just think the joke is that
Speaker 2: he thinks she's a service worker like that sort of.
Speaker 2: It's like the blow at the end of Seed, which
Speaker 2: is like yeah, And now that you're explaining it, I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: he is old.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's the joke. You never really know truly how
Speaker 6: old he is. It fluctuates how old he is. But
Speaker 6: Marge is now making sure the family all looked a
Speaker 6: part for the country club, getting Bart to come. He's hair,
Speaker 6: Homer can't wear a short sleeve shirt with a tire.
Speaker 6: Best sip wits were discussing earlier Classic and Lisa says
Speaker 6: she doesn't want to go because, as you said, you
Speaker 6: were touching on the hotbed of exclusion of snobs and
Speaker 6: status seeking social climbers, and I don't like using the
Speaker 6: word hotbed. But then Marge's begs them just to behave please,
Speaker 6: because you know, we really get to do something like this,
Speaker 6: and it's like for the first time, she's finally feeling
Speaker 6: accepted and she just she just wants to feel important
Speaker 6: for once, and this family, dare we say the family's
Speaker 6: almost like embarrassing for her at this point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's telling them not to be themselves.
Speaker 3: I'd say, yeah, she's like, but.
Speaker 2: Don't be a grifter. Like also, I never noticed I
Speaker 2: think when I was a kid, I like always identified
Speaker 2: with Lisa, but I never noticed how like ethical and
Speaker 2: like her kind of personality is that she's like morally
Speaker 2: she's like a real yeah stand up goal for like
Speaker 2: societal left wing issues, And it was so obvious in
Speaker 2: this episode. I was like, Damn, she really is, like,
Speaker 2: you know, towing that line the power yeah liberalism.
Speaker 3: It's like you said, though, Nina, I mean the fact
Speaker 3: that she's actually going to the to the country club
Speaker 3: with Homer to face this woman who said, oh, I
Speaker 3: thought you married home. I heard an awful rumor that
Speaker 3: you married it down. It's like, here's the proof. I mean,
Speaker 3: you can say it, but yeah, actually showing that you're
Speaker 3: coming in on the arm of someone who you know
Speaker 3: it's gonna sort of regard your husband as like a
Speaker 3: bit of a do fist.
Speaker 6: It's like, I do think it's important that they didn't
Speaker 6: have the family embarrass her at the country club, but
Speaker 6: they weren't going there and doing embarrashing shit. You know
Speaker 6: what I mean, Yeah, I haven't went there, and he
Speaker 6: became a good golfer. We didn't get much bart in
Speaker 6: this That's one thing I wanted to touch on as well.
Speaker 6: I feel like if this was an earlier episode, it
Speaker 6: would have been more bart heavy, even though it was
Speaker 6: a March story. Like, we barely get any bart, especially
Speaker 6: at the country club. The only gag I think we
Speaker 6: get is when Lisa's complaining about when Brockman's daughter throws
Speaker 6: a sandwich on the ground and she's been a little bitch.
Speaker 6: And when he's talking about the guy in the bathroom
Speaker 6: who keeps giving him tous until he pays him stop. Yes,
Speaker 6: that's really the only bart we've got in this.
Speaker 2: And even Homer gets the joke in that because it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's like they kept giving me towns until I
Speaker 2: paid him to stop. And then it cuts to Homer
Speaker 2: with like a full rack of like fool stack of
Speaker 2: towels in his hands, and he's like, you just had
Speaker 2: to keep God, you gave up too early or.
Speaker 3: Something A long long boy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so good.
Speaker 6: But they arrive at the Springfield Glenn Country Club, home
Speaker 6: of the Tippling gat about you know so I looked
Speaker 6: at what the meaning of a gadabout is. Apparently it's
Speaker 6: just someone a pleasure seeking or something like a socialite
Speaker 6: sociale yeah, okay, so the drunken social lighte okay. But
Speaker 6: Margin says to the guy at the gate, we're not poor,
Speaker 6: and the family look at her like, why did you say?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yes?
Speaker 6: But clearly we're seeing here, Marge. Her priory is already shifting.
Speaker 6: She's trying to be somebody that she's not. But is
Speaker 6: she trying to be somebody she wants to be though,
Speaker 6: or just trying she just trying to fit in for
Speaker 6: the first time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it's fit in so much
Speaker 3: as yeah, she has an idealized version of stuff like
Speaker 3: so many of us do.
Speaker 2: But she's trying to escalate the family, Like I think
Speaker 2: that's something even in when she's at the op shop
Speaker 2: in another shop, sorry, the discount store in Ogdenville and
Speaker 2: she you see, you know, Cletus and his kind of
Speaker 2: hick and it's sort of like this is who she
Speaker 2: doesn't want to be, and so she is trying to
Speaker 2: climb the ranks, like to live a better life.
Speaker 6: I think, and I think if we were all in
Speaker 6: this situation, we will probably kind of react the same
Speaker 6: way with the idea of just being involved in the
Speaker 6: country club is like, oh, this makes me feel special,
Speaker 6: makes me feel important. It probably would be the same, dude.
Speaker 2: Like the Quantus Lounge is a perfect example, like the
Speaker 2: moment I've reached god set, because like fly a lot
Speaker 2: for work, and there was one day I always heard
Speaker 2: there was a secret comedians group because comedians fly a
Speaker 2: lot for work, and comedians fly so much that they
Speaker 2: can get into like gold status and then get into
Speaker 2: the Quantus Lounge whenever they want. And there's a secret
Speaker 2: Comedian Quantus Lounge Facebook group for yeah, And that was
Speaker 2: like my actually, yeah exactly, And I was like, that's
Speaker 2: my country club, Like that's my personal country club. Like
Speaker 2: when I was a young comedian, was like I just
Speaker 2: want to fly so much and to us so much
Speaker 2: that I get into the Quantus Lounge.
Speaker 3: Can you recall when you finally felt like you belonged
Speaker 3: in the Australian comedy circuit in the scene, like when
Speaker 3: you made it. That's that's a cliche, like you made it,
Speaker 3: but like can you remember the first timehere you felt
Speaker 3: like I can consider myself a genuine comedian. Now I've
Speaker 3: made it. I've gone pro Oh man.
Speaker 2: I don't think I have ever felt like i've fully
Speaker 2: in regards to stand up specifically, I don't feel like
Speaker 2: i've ever fully.
Speaker 4: Like made it, made it.
Speaker 2: But I think maybe doing just for laughs. I think
Speaker 2: two years ago I did just for laughs and then
Speaker 2: that's when like the whole thing went bankrupt, and so
Speaker 2: I don't think it ever came out, which I.
Speaker 4: Was sad about.
Speaker 2: But I did. I did really well. And it was
Speaker 2: like this where I was like, oh, like, I feel
Speaker 2: like it's like, I feel like I'm good at this.
Speaker 6: I was about to say, what happened to just for
Speaker 6: laughs and bankrupt? Apparently I had no idea, But it's back.
Speaker 4: It's back.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, good, but I don't know where the deleted
Speaker 3: or your footage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like I nailed every joke. I was
Speaker 2: so bad because I get so stressed before these things,
Speaker 2: and I I was like in my head about it,
Speaker 2: and then I went out and I like, I like
Speaker 2: took down a heckler. Like that's the other cool thing.
Speaker 2: You know when they like you catch a heckler and
Speaker 2: you're like fuck you, and then you're like, eat shit,
Speaker 2: you don't say that you'd be funny about it, but it's.
Speaker 3: Just like, shit, what a burden?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, they're like you're not funny, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: fuck off, you're not funny.
Speaker 4: But I don't think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think like I think I had someone like
Speaker 2: yell something at me, and then I like took them
Speaker 2: down and I was like, so glad this is caught
Speaker 2: on tape. There's twenty different live cameras. And then they
Speaker 2: went bankrupt like later that year, and then no, I
Speaker 2: never saw the footage.
Speaker 3: And I'm just like, I must have had the footage.
Speaker 3: They filmed it.
Speaker 2: I don't know where it is. They did several nights.
Speaker 2: Mel Bracewell hosted the whole thing, who I love and
Speaker 2: she was like, I'm like, what the hell? And then
Speaker 2: this year they started just last again, and because I
Speaker 2: haven't been doing stand up, I like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: it didn't apply for it, didn't get to do it.
Speaker 6: But I was like, you have done the same stick
Speaker 6: and got someone to do the heckl bit that you
Speaker 6: do the same thing, be so good.
Speaker 2: Just get a plant. But I'm not that forward thinking enough,
Speaker 2: and I reckon if I did plant a hecla I
Speaker 2: would fuck it up.
Speaker 6: Can you tell when someone's planted a heckler? Because there
Speaker 6: are comedians at that where you watching these going all
Speaker 6: your things are just heckless, and it's like you've just
Speaker 6: planted these guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you went to Ghulia a clown school,
Speaker 2: you if you're a Ghuli a clown, the heckler is
Speaker 2: one hundred percent fake. That's sort of the rules. Do
Speaker 2: you know, Ghoulie.
Speaker 3: They're like, don't know what you're talking about it? Can
Speaker 3: you explain what that means to us? Don't?
Speaker 2: Oh, there's so at the comedy Festival, there's sort of
Speaker 2: like two kinds of shows. There's like stand up comedy
Speaker 2: shows where it's like a person and a microphone, and
Speaker 2: then there's people that do physical comedy where they'll pretend
Speaker 2: to speak a gibberish language for like an hour and
Speaker 2: like crawl into the crowd and pick on people and
Speaker 2: do all this stuff that's.
Speaker 4: Kind of nonverbal.
Speaker 3: That sounds night merrish.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is, and sometimes it's really funny, Like when
Speaker 2: it's done well, it's incredible, and when it done bad,
Speaker 2: it's so painfully cringe and you're just like, what is happening,
Speaker 2: and you're like, they're not in control of the room.
Speaker 2: But sometimes those people blend that sort of physical, curious
Speaker 2: clown nature with stand up comedy. And usually when those
Speaker 2: people have a heckler, that's a like a plant.
Speaker 4: That's that's how I tell it anyway.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, because when I go to a comedy show,
Speaker 6: I'm going I'm not paying to be a part of
Speaker 6: the show. I hate when comedians point out, hey, you
Speaker 6: what do you do for a living? I'm like, I
Speaker 6: don't want to be involved with this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want.
Speaker 6: To sit in the dark and just watch you. Can
Speaker 6: you please just tell me jokes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for the monologue, not a dialogue.
Speaker 6: But this is where they arrive at the country club,
Speaker 6: the nearly run over. Krusty yadayada YadA.
Speaker 2: That's good. So Krusty is what they call a runner. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know how like every time you cut back to Krusty,
Speaker 2: he's getting hurt. That's like a running a running joke essentially,
Speaker 2: and that's like the Sea story, I think is what
Speaker 2: you would call that. And that's when you just keep
Speaker 2: cutting back to like somebody getting hurt. Basically, No, it
Speaker 2: doesn't always have to be someone getting hurt, but it
Speaker 2: usually is someone getting hurt.
Speaker 6: The first time I ever noticed that kind of thing
Speaker 6: was on The Simpsons and I think it was Treos
Speaker 6: of Horror five, where will he keeps getting the axe
Speaker 6: in the back? Yeah, every sex, every sement. You're like,
Speaker 6: that's that's like that. It's like a little mini story
Speaker 6: in itself. But yeah, so it's called the runner.
Speaker 2: Is that the term, Yeah, that's the runner or as
Speaker 2: the c story. So like in sitcom writing, there's three
Speaker 2: stories at play. Usually there's an A story, so in
Speaker 2: this case that's Marge. There's a B story in this
Speaker 2: case that's Homer and the golf, and then there's like
Speaker 2: the sea.
Speaker 4: Story, which is Krusty.
Speaker 2: And usually the sea story, like I think from memory,
Speaker 2: Krusty's is like, you know, he like gets hit in
Speaker 2: the head or he gets driven into by a car,
Speaker 2: gets hit in the head with like a ball, and
Speaker 2: then there's probably like a moment where you think he's
Speaker 2: not going to get hurt, and then he does. And
Speaker 2: that's what.
Speaker 6: Homer throws his club in the last one, he just
Speaker 6: steps on Crusty's head. Yeah, yeah, like and they make
Speaker 6: and they have the button of the end, I knew
Speaker 6: my people won't work them here. Yeah, but yeah, so
Speaker 6: Evelyn greets them at the door, and you are that lovely.
Speaker 6: Suits are just acknowledging it's all about the suit, what
Speaker 6: you're wearing. And she introduces all these women who have
Speaker 6: normal names but pronounced differently, so Cavin, Gillianne, Elizabeth, Patricia,
Speaker 6: r Roebatar, Susin, and it's so perfect, little just gags
Speaker 6: like that. Love it's just acknowledging that these people, even
Speaker 6: though their names are probably just Susan, but she's Susin.
Speaker 2: M It also reminds me a little bit of you
Speaker 2: that Kean Kean Peel's get that's like a a ron
Speaker 2: like nice like it is sort of like like that's
Speaker 2: going into like like aav like African American vernacular. But
Speaker 2: this is sort of like the upper class like white
Speaker 2: you know, like version of that, which is like Susan.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Karen, Gillian, Elizabeth, Patricia Roberta, Susin meet Marge.
Speaker 3: Used to meet you.
Speaker 1: You look like such a happy bunch of people.
Speaker 2: That's the trouble with first impressions.
Speaker 1: You only get to make one.
Speaker 6: Susin is such a cow. I know she probably means
Speaker 6: nothing by it. It's just who she is. But I
Speaker 6: could not be around somebody constantly take me down. It
Speaker 6: would just it would destroy me.
Speaker 2: I do feel like that's the trouble with first impressions.
Speaker 2: You only get to make one. Is it feels like
Speaker 2: a Nora Efron quote. Like, it feels like a quote
Speaker 2: from like a Woody Allen film. Don't you think like
Speaker 2: it's just it feels like someone from New York would
Speaker 2: say that, you know, while drinking wine in like a
Speaker 2: four bedroom penthouse.
Speaker 3: Funny you should mention that, Nina.
Speaker 2: Oh. Yes.
Speaker 3: Apparently the writers drew inspiration from a New York writer
Speaker 3: named Dorothy Parker, a very very famous, well known in
Speaker 3: the earlier twentieth century, a member of the Algonquin round Table,
Speaker 3: a sort of a which has been name checked on
Speaker 3: The Simpsons in the past and other shows. She is.
Speaker 3: She's really well known for just coming up with like
Speaker 3: these great witty one liners that have sort of entered
Speaker 3: into just the common language. I mean, there's a as
Speaker 3: a writer. She came up with the most famous one,
Speaker 3: which is like I hate writing, I love having written.
Speaker 3: That's which is everybody.
Speaker 2: That's so funny that reminds me of is it Rita Runner,
Speaker 2: which is like, oh it's not reader run, Now it's
Speaker 2: someone else, which is I loved deadlines. I love the
Speaker 2: sound they make as they whiz by.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, Susan is yeah, based on Dorothy Parker.
Speaker 2: In that regard, Ah, that makes so much sense because
Speaker 2: I was like, what a great quote. I mean, I
Speaker 2: was like the impact of that quote is hurtful and
Speaker 2: much But as a writer, I was like, impeccable quote.
Speaker 3: Have even made a bad first impression?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like all the time, Like like on this podcast,
Speaker 2: I'm already regretting like the first half an hour because
Speaker 2: I was like, I've talked too much about myself. I
Speaker 2: didn't talk about the Simpsons. I didn't ask anyone what
Speaker 2: they deal was.
Speaker 6: That's a bide of this. Now we get people lines,
Speaker 6: we just we find out about them. The Simpsons is
Speaker 6: there as a skeleton because everyone loves the Simpsons. But
Speaker 6: you know, we just were here to talk to you, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, Well anyway I am already regretting it. Like
Speaker 2: what I can tell you now is like I'm already
Speaker 2: like fucked it. But anyway, I'm baking up for lost time.
Speaker 2: Hopefully now this way.
Speaker 6: Margin Her response to that was that reminds me of
Speaker 6: an apron and I saw and everyone's got the knowledge
Speaker 6: that go, I was just going to cut you off here, Marge,
Speaker 6: because that's not the party be going down just yet,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 4: But also that.
Speaker 2: Like the fact that she hears an iconic quote and
Speaker 2: she attributes it to like it, so like you know,
Speaker 2: that's true, Like that's where all those quotes live now.
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, I feel like
Speaker 6: Evan she seemed to have Marge's best interests at heart,
Speaker 6: and we find out the end that she actually was
Speaker 6: going to welcome into the country. I think that's the
Speaker 6: best way to end this. It was that all these
Speaker 6: people who we see is horrible and smart asses and snobbish,
Speaker 6: they were actually going to be nice to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were ready, they were ready.
Speaker 6: It's almost like we were judging them by just purely
Speaker 6: because you know, because they're rich, and it's like, well,
Speaker 6: maybe they were nice people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe they really wanted to Maybe.
Speaker 3: We're the bad Maybe we're the bad person.
Speaker 2: I love that though, Like it is it's sort of
Speaker 2: like they're not the cliches you expected them to be,
Speaker 2: and that's such a message in itself, like you can't
Speaker 2: just pinpoint people based on who they are, immediactly, that's
Speaker 2: the problem with first impressions.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. She says that the family can go and
Speaker 6: enjoy the country, cop, and this is where as you
Speaker 6: were saying early in a Homer says that, you know,
Speaker 6: let's go sit in the car until your mother's done
Speaker 6: fitting in.
Speaker 2: So I love that line. It's such a good like
Speaker 2: I think it's like using sub subtext as a punch,
Speaker 2: Like blunt subtext as a punchline is one of my
Speaker 2: favorite genres of Simpson jokes.
Speaker 6: It's almost like a bit passive aggressive as well, Like
Speaker 6: if you said that to someone in real life, you're like,
Speaker 6: now I feel guilty for wanting to fit in.
Speaker 2: But he delives it with such earnestness, like he's like
Speaker 2: he's so Covini about it.
Speaker 4: You're like, he doesn't realize. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I love that line.
Speaker 3: I can't be fucked being here. Let's just go wait
Speaker 3: in the car, put the radio on and go to sleep. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And the fact that.
Speaker 2: That whole family is like, we don't belong here, like
Speaker 2: straight up, they're just like, you know, They're like, they
Speaker 2: don't have to stand in the enclave, and like their
Speaker 2: family is like, we do want to stand in the
Speaker 2: enclave because this place sucks.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, but the group that women, they're all now discussing,
Speaker 6: you know, why share yourself horse at incompetent sales clerks
Speaker 6: when you can nearly order everything online fire may.
Speaker 2: And unfortunately I agree, But it is the year twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five.
Speaker 4: I don't think when I'm in ninety six, I was
Speaker 4: doing that.
Speaker 6: It's funny how ninety six what seems snob and ladi
Speaker 6: dah is now just the norm. I would I go
Speaker 6: to I go to a shop and I see something
Speaker 6: that I want and my first thing is to pull
Speaker 6: out my phone and see if I can find it
Speaker 6: cheaper on eBay or something. I never think to go,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna pay retail for this. There's got to be
Speaker 6: somewhere online that's got this cheaper than this place right now?
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, especially if it's off brand legos.
Speaker 6: Ali Express, thank you very much. Yes, And this is
Speaker 6: where everyone says she eat anything else that shipped every
Speaker 6: night from Vermont or Washington States, and we order our
Speaker 6: stacks from the New Yorker.
Speaker 2: I thought that was very funny.
Speaker 6: I don't get this gag, but I'm sure you guys do. So,
Speaker 6: Susan says, al she thinks All Being and Eddie Bauer
Speaker 6: are selling her the same honey. Now they're both clothing stores, right.
Speaker 3: Pretty much sort of outdoorsy gear. So honey, Like that
Speaker 3: GAG's way over my head. It's pretty much a ll.
Speaker 3: Bean and Eddie Bauer are kind of interchangeable. The label
Speaker 3: is really the only thing that's that's a difference between
Speaker 3: the two of them. Okay, so the honey is just
Speaker 3: just me for clothes.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like it's almost like when she's like,
Speaker 2: I order my stakes from the New Yorker, It's like
Speaker 2: I do this thing that's like not possible to do
Speaker 2: because I'm so rich.
Speaker 4: I think that's sort of the gag, which is like,
Speaker 4: you know, like the.
Speaker 2: New Yorker is this like upper crust and again like yeah,
Speaker 2: that's another Yeah, it is to me. It is sort
Speaker 2: of like, you know, the like a bougie, fucking liberal
Speaker 2: newspaper is sort of the vibe of the New Yorker, Right,
Speaker 2: they have the little cartoons and like, yeah, the writing
Speaker 2: with the seraph like it is having a New Yorker
Speaker 2: subscription is like a flex, I think, and so to
Speaker 2: be able to order stakes. And I don't know that's
Speaker 2: my interpretation, but maybe someone who lives in New York
Speaker 2: could tell me different.
Speaker 3: Nah. I think that's very much the casion. I think
Speaker 3: the markup on a steak that you would buy from
Speaker 3: The New Yorker is going to be like something like
Speaker 3: five hundred percent. You know, but you're doing it, yeah,
Speaker 3: as you said, purely for the flex. Yeah, it's not
Speaker 3: going to taste any different to the one you get
Speaker 3: from alb. I mean, if we could flex, you'd all
Speaker 3: do it too, right.
Speaker 4: Fuck you or stakes of the New Yorker.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if we could all flex, something like we could
Speaker 6: just buy something that's expensive just because it's expensive, and
Speaker 6: we could afford that, we would totally do it right.
Speaker 3: Some things, yes, somethings.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I think I just have like
Speaker 2: scarcity mindset where I'm just like it could all I'm
Speaker 2: not rich by any means, but I'm like everything could
Speaker 2: all disappear in a heartbeat. Like I'm just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a weird.
Speaker 4: It's like the war or something.
Speaker 3: You know, Nina, you're a freelance creative in the year
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. I mean, I think anxiety is kind
Speaker 3: of the fucking default mode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
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Speaker 6: slash four figure discount. This is one of my favorite
Speaker 6: moments in the so purely because of how confident Marge
Speaker 6: is when she says this. So she says she orders
Speaker 6: through the mail, but in a different way each month,
Speaker 6: good housekeeping, a rise, bursting with recipes, and sometimes the
Speaker 6: most satisfying meal is the one you cook herself. And
Speaker 6: she's so confident and happy when she says this, and
Speaker 6: it's one hundred percent true. Like cooking your own food,
Speaker 6: I just find so much more. I get so much
Speaker 6: more out of it than going to a restaurant paying
Speaker 6: some fifty dollars to cook something I could have made
Speaker 6: for fifteen.
Speaker 2: No, I have the same thing, Like I don't have
Speaker 2: Uber Eat, I don't have any delivery apps on my
Speaker 2: phone because I'm like and also there's something when you
Speaker 2: like cook food yourself, You're like, it's free, even though
Speaker 2: it's not free like dollars on groceries, you like, it's free.
Speaker 6: The thing is though it's usually leftovers as well, which
Speaker 6: is the good part.
Speaker 2: That's true. And you yeah, and then you know what's
Speaker 2: in it. There's something about knowing what's in it where you.
Speaker 3: Like, I honestly did this the other day though, I mean,
Speaker 3: this is how precariously are economically speaking. But you know,
Speaker 3: I was like, I've gone to Col's, Like, okay, so
Speaker 3: I've got the Southern Fried chicken burgers. Whatever. Okay, let's bread.
Speaker 3: There's three in the pack. That's that's roughly like three
Speaker 3: dollars a burger at the barn. Okay, I made this
Speaker 3: delightful Southern fried chicken burger, but something like five dollars
Speaker 3: fifty I would have paid three times out if I'd
Speaker 3: gotten the chicken rans down the road. Yeah, yeah, me.
Speaker 4: I loved it.
Speaker 2: But that's like it's so sad. I remember being in
Speaker 2: Bathurst like a UNI student with no money, and I
Speaker 2: remember we had frozen chicken like it was like three
Speaker 2: months old.
Speaker 4: And it was frozen.
Speaker 2: It was like the wrong color.
Speaker 4: But we didn't have any money for dinner and we
Speaker 4: all craving KFC.
Speaker 2: So we like we breaded, like we made breadcrumbs from
Speaker 2: our frozen bread. We breaded the chicken. I think we
Speaker 2: had one egg and we put like maybe water in
Speaker 2: it to kind of stretch the.
Speaker 3: Milk and makes senses all the time. Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: We just like schnitzled it and we like I think
Speaker 2: we like bought potatoes like we were just like we
Speaker 2: were just like we need to have KFC, but there's
Speaker 2: no way we can afford it.
Speaker 4: And it makes you creative.
Speaker 3: I think love is our great depression.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like being poor is fun.
Speaker 3: You had to game the system in a lot of ways,
Speaker 3: and sometimes you discover new recipes as well, Like I
Speaker 3: never that place, would never have put that ingredient with
Speaker 3: that one, but I fucking did and it tastes great,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, exactly. So this morning I went.
Speaker 6: To a Father's Day breakfast at my daughter's kindergarten and
Speaker 6: they had egg muffins, and they had smoked salmon, and
Speaker 6: they had.
Speaker 3: Like shit and salty.
Speaker 4: It didn't make it your.
Speaker 6: Way, no, no, so they had it was all separate.
Speaker 6: So they just had egg muffins that were playing right,
Speaker 6: and they had salsa there and they had smoked salmon,
Speaker 6: and they had hash browns. And I chucked it all
Speaker 6: into this muffin and it was fucking delicious.
Speaker 3: And I would never.
Speaker 6: Ever think to combine all those three things.
Speaker 4: I can't believe you hacked the menu.
Speaker 3: Sorcer and smoked salmon, what the fuck? Yeah? And hash
Speaker 3: brown and an egg in an egg in a English muffin.
Speaker 3: It was delicious.
Speaker 2: I love that you hacked the menu at your daughter's
Speaker 2: father's breakfast.
Speaker 3: Like all these people just having eggs, plain eggs. I'm like,
Speaker 3: chuck it all in, guys, let's do this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm freaking crazy, dude. What if we put
Speaker 2: a hash brown on this ship?
Speaker 6: Over Back in school, we'd buy cheese and bacon, I
Speaker 6: was from the school canteen and put hash browns in them.
Speaker 6: It was fucking great.
Speaker 3: It was like that.
Speaker 6: It was like it was like the thing everyone did.
Speaker 6: We bought a hash brown and a cheese make con roll.
Speaker 6: We'd all sit there eating them. It was like we
Speaker 6: hacked the system over here. But but yes, so this
Speaker 6: is where March she's made a good uh good, and
Speaker 6: it don't about that the good housekeeping and whatnot. And
Speaker 6: this is where Patricia is like, you know what, I
Speaker 6: did that as well. It reminds me of that time
Speaker 6: that we we had to microwave our own soup and
Speaker 6: I just love that. You know, of course that it
Speaker 6: was a horrible mess, but I just didn't mind cleaning
Speaker 6: it up. Like we didn't want to wake up to
Speaker 6: cook the food, but we waken up to clean it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also the fact that like microwaving soup is the
Speaker 2: easiest thing to microwave, Like it's not like you just
Speaker 2: put it in and you take it out and it's
Speaker 2: and it's suit like it's like.
Speaker 3: It's so funny you have to do anything. You pour
Speaker 3: it in and you push go that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these people are so incompetent.
Speaker 1: I get through to the mail but in a different way.
Speaker 1: Everyone's got housekeeping arrives in my mailbox, brushing with recipes.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the most satisfying meal is the one you cook yourself.
Speaker 7: Hmmm, that's very true. Marche one night when I came
Speaker 7: home late and we decided not to wake Iris and
Speaker 7: instead we microwaved our own soup. Of course it was
Speaker 7: a horrible mess, but Iris didn't mind cleaning it up.
Speaker 6: Marge is so high on life though she's did a
Speaker 6: great job fitting in and now they have guest passes
Speaker 6: and perhaps don't invite them to enjoy home. Was like, well,
Speaker 6: it must have really done a number on those rich suckers,
Speaker 6: and she says, you know, don't think me thank this
Speaker 6: new suit.
Speaker 2: My favorite bit is when she's like, it's so opulent
Speaker 2: and classy, like the Clay the Playboy Mansion, but non sexual,
Speaker 2: And I was like, that is such an like the
Speaker 2: Playboy Mansion is like the tackiest place.
Speaker 3: On the thing. In twenty twenty five, the Playboy Mansion,
Speaker 3: I think it is. It still exists, but I think
Speaker 3: it's even more sad than it once was. I think
Speaker 3: once hefn went it was kind of like that was
Speaker 3: the end.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's like a venue now because there's like
Speaker 2: pools and like stuff and like monkeys and like a
Speaker 2: z Like it's more like a weird freak show.
Speaker 3: I think now I think the Playboy brand has been
Speaker 3: somewhat devalued.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's been reclaimed by feminists magic thing.
Speaker 4: But I do think it is bad.
Speaker 3: We warned you because the.
Speaker 2: Two thousands is back and Playboy was such a you know,
Speaker 2: important part, Like that picture, like the little Bunny logo,
Speaker 2: I think is back.
Speaker 3: What's you go to k up now?
Speaker 6: And there's like kids clothing with the Playboy logo, and
Speaker 6: I'm like, what are we doing?
Speaker 2: I remember when I was a kid there were girls
Speaker 2: at my dad's school with Playboy stuff and it was
Speaker 2: seen as like a really cool grown up thing.
Speaker 3: But yeah, in hern So, yes, not good.
Speaker 6: But we're at the club again and Kent Brockman's there
Speaker 6: with his daughter and she's yelling at Fritz an idiot
Speaker 6: he gave her. She didn't want blowny sandwich, she want
Speaker 6: an abaloney sandwich. She throws it on the ground and
Speaker 6: Lisa's goes on her little rant, but then she's distracted
Speaker 6: by the horses going around in the background. Caause Lisa
Speaker 6: that's one of her common threads, is that she loves
Speaker 6: ponies and loves horses.
Speaker 3: Can I just give a quick shout out to the
Speaker 3: visual gag of Ken Brockman's daughter looking exactly like Ken Brockman.
Speaker 3: I thought that really, just in case you weren't aware.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do they call it now?
Speaker 2: Punnett square And that's what it's called when a kid
Speaker 2: looks like their parents, called Punnett square square.
Speaker 3: We're letting a lot of things here.
Speaker 2: I love that bit that like even Lisa Simpson, like
Speaker 2: the most ethical member of that family, is tempted by courses,
Speaker 2: Like she's just like a little girl at the end
Speaker 2: of the day.
Speaker 6: That's just like and this next scene here we get
Speaker 6: a great, great use of just animation in general. So
Speaker 6: it's when Marge's playing cards and she's got the winning
Speaker 6: hand and she's going to have the inner monologue what
Speaker 6: do I do? Do I win or do I want
Speaker 6: to make friends? Because she thinks if she wins that
Speaker 6: they won't like her, and so so it's going higher
Speaker 6: and higher in her hair, just the visual gig, and
Speaker 6: then at the end it's don't ask me, I'm just hair. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you head finished eighteen inches ago or whatever like that.
Speaker 6: It's a great use of the animation. But she puts
Speaker 6: the cards out and she wins, and she I think
Speaker 6: someone says, we could have won too, seen if you
Speaker 6: had to change suits, and she riffs on Marge again,
Speaker 6: saying I thought changing suits was out of fashion a Marge,
Speaker 6: and poor Marges know what to do?
Speaker 3: Does she?
Speaker 2: No, she doesn't, And I think there's like they make
Speaker 2: fun of her a little bit, but then at some
Speaker 2: point she they are like, just like you ruined that
Speaker 2: beautiful Chanel's suit. It's you know that they want her
Speaker 2: to change a suit, but then they make fun of
Speaker 2: her for ruining.
Speaker 6: It, like she's can win exactly. But Homer's now playing golf.
Speaker 6: He hits his own foot and he starts cheating, but
Speaker 6: he's done it the wrong way because the traditional ways
Speaker 6: to lower your score. As Tom Kite golf professional points out,
Speaker 6: I've never seen Tom Kite play around golf in my life.
Speaker 6: I used to like watching golf when I was a kid.
Speaker 6: Not really so much anymore, but I thought Tom Kite,
Speaker 6: for the time he appeed on screen, was a pretty
Speaker 6: good guest star.
Speaker 3: It was really funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I just assume.
Speaker 2: I think, like when they show you those people, you
Speaker 2: just go, yeah, of course that's like a professional golfer,
Speaker 2: you know, like yeah.
Speaker 6: But he genuinely is Yeah, and I just love that
Speaker 6: you know you're a natural. What does he tell your tyl,
Speaker 6: don't ever think it? Keep your head down, pretend no
Speaker 6: one else is around here, and then got your own pace.
Speaker 6: And as he's before Eving finishes that sentence, Home has
Speaker 6: already swung the ball. He does a really good shot.
Speaker 6: You're a natural. Now you just need your own set
Speaker 6: of clubs and stay the hell out of my locker.
Speaker 6: I just love that you can keep the shoes well.
Speaker 2: Also the bit where he goes, pretend no one's here,
Speaker 2: and then Homer Simpson scratches his butt and does like
Speaker 2: a disgusting verb, and like that's the only bit that
Speaker 2: Homer listens to.
Speaker 3: Yes, also, don't ever think it not an issue.
Speaker 6: Homa's now reading in bed the New Our Caddies Ourselves,
Speaker 6: which is a pun I've got here on the women's
Speaker 6: health book Our Bodies Ourselves, which was first published in
Speaker 6: nineteen seventy one. I had no idea about that book,
Speaker 6: did you? I had no idea, Yeah, and had several
Speaker 6: additions since then, One addition to which Homer's copy of
Speaker 6: The New Our Caddies Ourselves bears a strong resemblance, appeared
Speaker 6: in the nineteen nineties and was titled The New Our Bodies,
Speaker 6: Ourselves and was subtitled a book by and four Women.
Speaker 6: This one was a book by and four golfers. But
Speaker 6: I just love it when Home is reading something he
Speaker 6: little reading glasses, but not even that, he's wearing his
Speaker 6: golfing hat. When Homers does like a little b plot,
Speaker 6: he's always got a little outfit for it, and he's
Speaker 6: read golf hat in his little glasses.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so he's.
Speaker 6: Wearing that in bed, and it's just just great to
Speaker 6: see more caught up in the fad. But Marche she's
Speaker 6: busy altering her suit at night, and Homer here, just
Speaker 6: stuff some bumper stickers and come to bed, will you. Marge,
Speaker 6: he's trying to be considered, but he's just like, just
Speaker 6: it's not that big of because to Homer, it's not
Speaker 6: that big of a deal, like who cares what these
Speaker 6: people think? But Marge can't see it that way. And
Speaker 6: she's up all night, and we get the transition of
Speaker 6: her just you know, just the lamp shining on her.
Speaker 6: It's middle of the night and she's busy trying to
Speaker 6: fix this dress for the country club people. And they
Speaker 6: were back at the club and Marge has now got
Speaker 6: a vest and some cool lots, and I had no
Speaker 6: idea what coolots were, forgive me, but really, yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Should have watched the movie Barb and Star Go to
Speaker 2: Vista del Mar. I think it's probably like my favorite
Speaker 2: movie of all time. But there's a really good plot
Speaker 2: line about coults. Yeah, and it's very like joke heavy.
Speaker 2: It's sort of like Austin Power's energy. It's Krestin Wig
Speaker 2: and Annie Momolo as two fifty year old women called
Speaker 2: Barbon Star and it's like the silliest movie. But yeah,
Speaker 2: they have they wear coults and there's like this whole
Speaker 2: plot involving their couplots.
Speaker 3: Can you use a quick explanation of what coulots are
Speaker 3: and how maybe how they differ from capri pants? Are
Speaker 3: they completely different?
Speaker 2: I feel like capri pants are like tight. The capri
Speaker 2: pants are like sort of half length shorts that are
Speaker 2: tight to the leg and tight to the butt. Where's
Speaker 2: like coulots are sort of like they're tight around the waist,
Speaker 2: but then they sort of are gently they soften out
Speaker 2: as the.
Speaker 4: Leg goes longer.
Speaker 2: And honestly, if I'm being if I'm being real. I
Speaker 2: don't think Marge's wearing coulots in this episode. I think
Speaker 2: she's wearing shorts. Yeah, yeah, of course, because to me,
Speaker 2: coulots are very.
Speaker 4: Like below the knee.
Speaker 2: You know, they're sort of like midi what you call it,
Speaker 2: like midi length, because you know it with skirts, You've
Speaker 2: got mini, which is like above the knee, and then
Speaker 2: you've got maxi, which is like at the ankle.
Speaker 4: And then you've got midi, which is just below the knee.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I feel like your eyes just glazed over. But
Speaker 2: that's that's one for the ladies to agree with.
Speaker 3: I just love you. The vest says, let's have lunch.
Speaker 3: But the cool lot say, you're paint.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was something like I'm picking up the tab or something.
Speaker 4: I don't know, you're pain Yeah.
Speaker 6: But Lisa found something more fun than complaining, and that
Speaker 6: is riding the horses around. We don't see what Bart's doing.
Speaker 6: Is off doing something?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she does say that. She's like, hey, mom,
Speaker 2: I found something better than complaining, which I like. There's
Speaker 2: the classic like subtext as a joke, like it's so good.
Speaker 6: Evelyn says she'd love to sponsor the family for membership
Speaker 6: of all goes well, the boor and marshes you'll be
Speaker 6: there with bals On and this is the moment you're
Speaker 6: saying about Susy and she says, yeah, we're going to
Speaker 6: exactly attach them to that mangled Chanel suit and yeah,
Speaker 6: they're just taking her down and they all laugh at her.
Speaker 6: But Evelyn, yeah, I thought you'd love this. Everylyn tries
Speaker 6: to comfort March by saying her idea of wit is
Speaker 6: nothing more than an incisive observation, humorously phrased and delivered
Speaker 6: with impeccable timing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 2: Again, that's like subjects as the joke, like, and it's
Speaker 2: because you think she's gonna say something to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: don't listen to her. She's you know, her idea of
Speaker 2: wit is like nothing more than a child's jab or whatever.
Speaker 2: But then she's just like describes exactly what you know.
Speaker 3: Wit is great.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and she and she says, I just know you'll
Speaker 6: have a lovely new outfit, which puts so much pressure
Speaker 6: on March with Marches like fuck, well I can't afford
Speaker 6: a new outfit. So you guys, they're basically just saying
Speaker 6: to her, you need to wear something else, but I
Speaker 6: want to go back. So, witt, what's your idea of wit?
Speaker 6: Like as a comedian who like you live and breathe
Speaker 6: comedy as a writer, is wittiness something that draws you
Speaker 6: to somebody?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, like I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 2: what wittiness is because I think like when I hear
Speaker 2: the word like witty, I always find it quite.
Speaker 4: Smarmy.
Speaker 2: Like to me, like witt is something that like you
Speaker 2: have if you went to Sydney UNI and like a
Speaker 2: private school, Like it's like people that are they're equipping
Speaker 2: and they're often like very smug and like punching down.
Speaker 2: But I think dialogue, yes, I find that witty. It's
Speaker 2: it's it's it's like humor that's aware of itself, if
Speaker 2: that makes sense. And I find it like not grading.
Speaker 2: But you don't want to be too like too witty.
Speaker 2: I think, I don't know, But that's just my interpretation
Speaker 2: of wit. Like maybe I'm yeah, sorry. There's a there's
Speaker 2: a truck in on the street outside my house and
Speaker 2: it's I will I wish.
Speaker 4: I think it's like a garbage truck.
Speaker 3: Stream truck.
Speaker 2: It's the middle of winter, like you're not gonna.
Speaker 6: We had an ice cream truck drive past our house
Speaker 6: like three nights ago. It was raining outside and it
Speaker 6: was cold, and the kids are like.
Speaker 3: Ice cream, icecream? Who the fuck is buying their kids
Speaker 3: ice cream? Now, it's like seven o'clock at night on
Speaker 3: a Monday or something or whatever right now anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 3: ice cream trucks good fun, good times.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I honestly like seven pm on a Monday, great time
Speaker 2: have ice cream. It's like sort of maybe it would
Speaker 2: have just had dinner, you know what, Actually think nine
Speaker 2: pm is the best time to have an ice cream.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like when the dinner is digested and
Speaker 2: then you're like something sweet.
Speaker 6: What's your usual bedtime though.
Speaker 2: Dude, I don't have one of those. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you know this, but I'm thirty years I just
Speaker 2: go to bed whenever the fuck I want.
Speaker 4: I don't have a sleep schedule.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm a chaos dem I think it could
Speaker 2: be like eight pm, it could be like four am.
Speaker 2: I'm mom. Yeah, I'm untethered to the realm of time.
Speaker 6: Like, see, my wife goes to bed, we watch something
Speaker 6: on TV once the kids go to bed, then she
Speaker 6: goes to bed, and I'm like, now it's time to
Speaker 6: create and edit videos and edit podcasts. And sometimes I'll
Speaker 6: be up to two in the morning. Sometimes I'll be
Speaker 6: up till eleven o'clock, but I like to if I
Speaker 6: get to bed before midnight, I'm like early, that's for me.
Speaker 6: As long as I'm in bed by midnight, I feel
Speaker 6: like I've gone to bed in good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel like you got your shit together? Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: I feel the same, but I rarely. I think, like
Speaker 2: probably around two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. Well.
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, Homer, though he's showing off his golf golf skills
Speaker 6: at work, he's chipping the balls into the toilets, including
Speaker 6: the handicapped one with the seat down. Mister Burns sees
Speaker 6: this lavatory linksman on his monitors in his office. Smith
Speaker 6: Has calls him a fork and spoon operator from sex
Speaker 6: to seven g and he thinks he's found is impressed.
Speaker 6: He thinks he's found a worthy competitor to take him
Speaker 6: on in a rand of golf, because he never loses,
Speaker 6: does he guy?
Speaker 3: He never does? Oh hay, there was one.
Speaker 6: Except for all on time he lost to President Nixon.
Speaker 3: He let him win. Let Nixon win.
Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite jokes, where he's like, I
Speaker 2: wonder if this Homer Nixon is of any relationship. Unlikely, sir.
Speaker 2: They spell and pronounce their name differently.
Speaker 6: Organized the game, and I'll ask him myself anyway. But meanwhile,
Speaker 6: Marge's once again altering her suit. Homer isis excited. There's
Speaker 6: gonna be taking on mister Burns in a game of
Speaker 6: golf today and hopefully if he beats me, thinks he
Speaker 6: might be able to get that raise he's been wanting.
Speaker 6: And she begs him, just if you do, just do
Speaker 6: not celebrate like you normally do with your yahoos and whatnot,
Speaker 6: because they're judging us. It's very, very important that we
Speaker 6: make a good impression. Meanwhile, Lisa, she tries to chat
Speaker 6: with Marge about how she Oh, she's really tough, she's
Speaker 6: excited about the horses. Isn't she just asked me for
Speaker 6: these questions, saying and granted. By the end of it,
Speaker 6: she's being really annoying because where Marge turns and screams
Speaker 6: at her incredibly annoying.
Speaker 2: And I also think I think there's something that, like
Speaker 2: I reckon in the original draft that was Bart's function,
Speaker 2: possibly but I think there's something to be said for
Speaker 2: Marge and Lisa's relationship in this episode, which is Lisa's
Speaker 2: the one that's like, do something for yourself, mum blah blah,
Speaker 2: blah blah. And then at the end, Lisa is the
Speaker 2: person that says, I just thought you looked nice. And
Speaker 2: so I think in order to kind of track that
Speaker 2: relationship and make it earned, as they'd say, I feel
Speaker 2: like they gave this moment, which is a very bart moment,
Speaker 2: like being fucking annoying. Like Lisa is the one who's
Speaker 2: always like the moral center of this family and but
Speaker 2: just so excited, you know, yeah, but she's so excited,
Speaker 2: and so I think that there is something I found.
Speaker 2: I was like, this feels quite out of character to
Speaker 2: give Lisa this very hyper childish moment, But then.
Speaker 4: I was like, I think story wise.
Speaker 3: It's more poignant, if more powerful.
Speaker 4: Her daughter is the one, yeah, that's pissing her off.
Speaker 6: Also too, Lisa the one who's usually just never shutting up.
Speaker 6: She's speechless with Marge screams. She doesn't anything to say,
Speaker 6: but she's almost like she's scared.
Speaker 3: She just leaves. She's not used to seeing Marge speak
Speaker 3: this way before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, completely, she's.
Speaker 6: Becoming she's just becoming a different person.
Speaker 1: At times like this, I guess all you can do
Speaker 1: is laugh.
Speaker 6: They leave it just long enough where it doesn't outstate
Speaker 6: it's work, and it's just it's really funny.
Speaker 4: It's so it's so funny. It still is my favorite
Speaker 4: bit of the episode.
Speaker 6: She goes to Patty and Summer for a formal dress.
Speaker 6: She tries on fantasy in maroon, marone, whatever you want
Speaker 6: to call it, peppery for her, and then she gets
Speaker 6: the original the Halloween costume, which is found its way
Speaker 6: into the regular rotation, and even Marge's like, yeah, sure.
Speaker 6: Then Homer arrives for his game with mister Burns. Mister
Speaker 6: Burns has been all smug and just you know, talking smack.
Speaker 6: Homer hits his first shot into the bunker and Burns
Speaker 6: then checks the wind. Smithers opens the ball from a box.
Speaker 6: They're all monograms on them, all the balls. Yeah, it's
Speaker 6: just very very fancy. It looks like the first shot
Speaker 6: he hits Elie straight. It doesn't look like it's going
Speaker 6: for any directions, hitting straight, but it's often to the distance.
Speaker 6: As Smithers is looking through his pinoculars, and it says
Speaker 6: it right on the green as always, which is and
Speaker 6: then he runs off though, which is the first signs
Speaker 6: of you are going.
Speaker 3: Why does Smithers run off like that? There's something not
Speaker 3: quite right here.
Speaker 6: But then mister Burns tells Homer to get out of
Speaker 6: the bunker. You need to use a sand wedge, and
Speaker 6: Homer's got his open faced.
Speaker 3: Club sand wedge.
Speaker 2: That's so funny.
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, Marge is on her way now to Oldenville again
Speaker 6: to buy a new news. You'll look for a new
Speaker 6: suit anyway, hopefully find another steel. And we cut back
Speaker 6: to Homer and he's now four strokes behind by the
Speaker 6: eighth hole, so he's not doing well. And it's a
Speaker 6: part five this eighth hole, and Burns teas off hits
Speaker 6: a way to the left, but of course Smith is
Speaker 6: looking through the binocular say's swaying right towards the green
Speaker 6: and it's there, which causes Home to absolutely rage, spin around,
Speaker 6: throw his golf club and it hits Krusty in head
Speaker 6: as he's getting a golfing lesson with Tom Kite avoid
Speaker 6: all distractions, bang knocks him out. I thought Krusty was
Speaker 6: an interesting option for to be the butt of this joke,
Speaker 6: being the runner for this one. I mean, it works,
Speaker 6: but it's just an interesting choice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they sort of signposted that a little earlier.
Speaker 3: I was like, I know, these places are no good
Speaker 3: for people like me, which is you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: there's a long and proud in very heavy quotes their
Speaker 3: tradition of American country clubs not allowing people of the
Speaker 3: Jewish faith. That's at the end though. Yeah, well yeah
Speaker 3: they also yeah, I mean yeah, Marge definitely has a
Speaker 3: line about that we'll talk.
Speaker 2: About, and like sort of combining that with the fact that,
Speaker 2: like a lot of comedians are Jewish and so I
Speaker 2: think like and Krusty sort of represents I mean, like
Speaker 2: comedians are writing for the Simpsons and so like that,
Speaker 2: probably Krusty is like them being like, yeah, we don't
Speaker 2: feel at home in these country clubs either.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Another favorite quote I have.
Speaker 2: From this is Homer goes dough and then like he
Speaker 2: does don't and then Burne says, yes, you're in deep dough. Now.
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Speaker 6: can't find anything on the but they've got a shipment
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Speaker 3: She's like, no, that's not what I want. She leaves,
Speaker 3: but clear us what.
Speaker 6: Time and how burn Now he's lining up and he says,
Speaker 6: can't ever get to the green in less than two shots.
Speaker 6: He hits it and all of a sudden we hear whack,
Speaker 6: and it's Smithers in the distance. And he said, and
Speaker 6: this is where it all unravels. Smithers is passed out
Speaker 6: on the ground. All he's been bumped on the head,
Speaker 6: All these reptile eggs are everywhere. I mean, he's quick
Speaker 6: thinking on his feet. But you know, I just love
Speaker 6: the idea that Homer though this could these could possibly
Speaker 6: be endangered species like reptile eggs, But Homer still taste
Speaker 6: tests it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, any egg is worth eating, Yes.
Speaker 2: But I love that he has to like they're obviously
Speaker 2: golf balls, like they're like an idiot good not that
Speaker 2: it's golf balls. And then Homer's like has to try
Speaker 2: eating one to discern the.
Speaker 3: He's like, golf balls, you've been cheating.
Speaker 6: Is where Burns finally realized, because I think it's actually
Speaker 6: a nice trait here that Burns didn't know he was
Speaker 6: cheating all this time, Like he was all all this
Speaker 6: smugness was because he genuinely thought he was good at golf.
Speaker 6: He wasn't being a liar. He thought he was just
Speaker 6: winning all this time. It's actually Smithers has been lying
Speaker 6: to everybody this entire.
Speaker 2: Time completely, And I think that's like that's also a
Speaker 2: class comment, right, Like that's about the people who like
Speaker 2: uphold the class system by being subservient to like make
Speaker 2: like I feel like there's some kind of comment there
Speaker 2: that's like, you know, Smithers is like this bottom feeder
Speaker 2: that's just like feeding off mister Burns and like inflating
Speaker 2: his ego so that.
Speaker 4: He can stay in the club scene. Because that's true.
Speaker 2: If Smithers didn't, you know, pay lip service to mister
Speaker 2: Burns and like act on his every whim then like
Speaker 2: he'd probably be kicked out to the curve until another
Speaker 2: yes man did. Like I I find it dynamics so interesting,
Speaker 2: like from a class perspective.
Speaker 6: I also liked the visual too of when Burns thought
Speaker 6: he was winning, he was very in Homer's face, and
Speaker 6: the second he realizes, oh my god, I've been cheating
Speaker 6: this entire time, he stands and hides behind Smith's.
Speaker 4: Yeah he's a pussy.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's great that the episode is titled Scenes
Speaker 3: from the Cross Scenes from the Class Struggle in Springfield.
Speaker 3: It's not just you know, like, sorry, he's the most obvious. Alternatively,
Speaker 3: Marge gets a new dress or something like that. Everybody's
Speaker 3: involved in the class struggle. You know there are multiple levels,
Speaker 3: lists and multiple facets of it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but they blackmail Homer here to keep quiet about
Speaker 6: it all because he'll push for membership for the Simpsons
Speaker 6: family and was like, I don't care about that, but
Speaker 6: does your wife? And it's a good homoment because he's like, yeah,
Speaker 6: Marge does want this, I better not fuck it up
Speaker 6: for her. So then as he's walking up this is
Speaker 6: where he steps on Cross, his head, and I knew
Speaker 6: my kind wasn't one saying yeah. Marge's then driving to
Speaker 6: the actual Chanel store. She's looking in the window, but
Speaker 6: then we cut to Marge wearing that dress down, the
Speaker 6: dress that was in the window, wearing that dress down
Speaker 6: the steps, and Lisa can't believe, Oh my god, too
Speaker 6: great dresses.
Speaker 3: Marge live.
Speaker 6: She says, I got it from the outlet more and Lisa,
Speaker 6: she can't believe it. You got two great finds. Was
Speaker 6: what did it cost? It's almost like Marge she knows
Speaker 6: she's done the wrong thing. She doesn't, she just can't
Speaker 6: admit it. She's like she's so deep now in this
Speaker 6: new scene that she just has to pretend I didn't
Speaker 6: pay much for this dress as well. But this is
Speaker 6: where Lisa's like, just how much was it? And she
Speaker 6: I think, what is it? Why do you have to
Speaker 6: question everything I do? And then as you're saying earlier,
Speaker 6: she says, you just you look nice as all.
Speaker 3: Lisa's just but.
Speaker 2: Also just like she's so guilty that she can't enjoy
Speaker 2: a compliment from her droller like.
Speaker 6: She because Lisa is the one that pushed her to
Speaker 6: do this in the first place. Lisa wants her to
Speaker 6: be happy, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but she's taken it too far.
Speaker 6: Yeah exactly. Yeah, it's just not doing well at all.
Speaker 6: But we skipped over the bit where they they said
Speaker 6: this is what they said they're going to do on
Speaker 6: the way in. So we'll get to that but in
Speaker 6: a minute. But they arrived there. Home's driving up to
Speaker 6: the main building and she's like, you can't do that. Well,
Speaker 6: someone might call me so without saying you're making a scene,
Speaker 6: which I think is just fantastic. But mar just refused
Speaker 6: because what she said, they'll see the coat hang around
Speaker 6: Tanner the dent in the side, like it's just not
Speaker 6: going to happen. She takes the keys out. But then
Speaker 6: the family is they're all walking and they explain their
Speaker 6: plans for the Not Home's going to say is anecdote.
Speaker 6: They got him bleeped out on the radio. He's going
Speaker 6: to leap him now, but it's going to pose it's
Speaker 6: an Italian count and get some old lady to leave
Speaker 6: him all his money. Just basically a Nigerian prince. That's
Speaker 6: what we call them these days, don't we In the emails. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and Lisa's going to ask if any of the workers,
Speaker 6: any of the people that know their servants last names,
Speaker 6: or in the case of Butler's there first, and marg
Speaker 6: just turns and she ran like, no enough, you know,
Speaker 6: no vulgarity, no mischief, no politics.
Speaker 3: Just be good.
Speaker 6: And I've found myself saying this quote sometimes to my kids,
Speaker 6: not even thinking it's a Simpsons quite. I'm just like,
Speaker 6: fuck me, just for one minute, just be good, please.
Speaker 3: Just stand still.
Speaker 6: It's the easiest I it's the easiest of tasks.
Speaker 3: Do nothing. Just stand there. Why are you waving your
Speaker 3: arms around? Why are you kicking things? Just stand still? Please, Well,
Speaker 3: you're of a mind that their behavior is going to
Speaker 3: reflect upon you and the way that you raise them,
Speaker 3: all the choices that you've made. Of course it does. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean the choices that you've made in your life
Speaker 3: in terms of like, this is my partner, this is
Speaker 3: the person that I've signed up to be with, and
Speaker 3: here they are, you know, having won too many and
Speaker 3: just fucking up the night for everybody.
Speaker 2: It's shame, right, Like that's the motivator there is that
Speaker 2: she's ashamed of her family, and like she's ashamed of
Speaker 2: herself for doing for buying a dress that her family
Speaker 2: can't thought and she's ashamed of her family.
Speaker 6: Like don't know how embarrassing is for me, Like I
Speaker 6: shouldn't feel this way. But you know when my wife,
Speaker 6: she's very successful what she does, right, she's just she's smart.
Speaker 6: She tells she's incredible, right, we you know, I love
Speaker 6: my wife, and I just do I do podcasts and
Speaker 6: I'll stay home with the kids, and I do podcasts
Speaker 6: for a living, and I just I feel like I'm
Speaker 6: not pulling my weight. And like so when we go
Speaker 6: to places and they're like, what do you do for
Speaker 6: a living? I'm this business woman, what do you do?
Speaker 6: I do a podcast in the Simpsons, I feel so shit.
Speaker 6: I'm almost embarrassed to say it.
Speaker 2: But like I mean, like, yeah, but that's like if
Speaker 2: that's the worst thing about your job, like then that's pretty.
Speaker 4: Cool, right, Like but everyone was going, you have so
Speaker 4: much fun.
Speaker 6: Everyone always goes, wow, that's so cool. But I'm always
Speaker 6: like embarrassed to admit it. But every time I admit it.
Speaker 3: They go, that's fucking awesome. I'm stuck at a desk
Speaker 3: all day. You get to do this shit, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's people are probably like wildly.
Speaker 6: Envious of it, But I can't help but just feel
Speaker 6: like I'm not carrying my weight in the relationship because
Speaker 6: I just sit at home talking about the Simpsons, incredible
Speaker 6: people like yourself. You know, I still pick the kids
Speaker 6: up fro school, like cook the dinners, I getting ready
Speaker 6: for bed. You know, I'll do all that stuff as well.
Speaker 2: But you do a fun job and she does a
Speaker 2: real job.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Would you call your job a real job or a
Speaker 3: fun job?
Speaker 2: Fun job?
Speaker 5: For sure?
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent? Yeah, comedian, I mean right, right,
Speaker 3: is a real job?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: I don't think any creative job is a real job.
Speaker 2: I think like real jobs are like, well you have
Speaker 2: to like go to work, and like people really pay
Speaker 2: for somebody you do it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Are you turning in words and getting paid for it? Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it's not a professional.
Speaker 2: If my job is like sit at my computer and
Speaker 2: eat em and m's and like laugh at my own jokes,
Speaker 2: I don't. I consider that a fun joke. And I'm
Speaker 2: a fun joke a fun job, and I feel very
Speaker 2: like it's never lost on me, like how blessed I
Speaker 2: am to do that for a living. But it is
Speaker 2: like an incredible privilege.
Speaker 3: It's tough I mean, I don't.
Speaker 2: Like finding a loophole like you guys have found a
Speaker 2: loophole by being a pop culture podcast. I'm successful at it.
Speaker 2: I think maybe that's what you should say. You should
Speaker 2: say I run a very successful Simpsons podcast, because I
Speaker 2: think if I met you at a pud party and
Speaker 2: your wife was like an awesome CEO boss babe, and
Speaker 2: you were like, I run a Simpsons podcast, I'd be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: cool man. But if you're like, I run like a
Speaker 2: podcast network essentially for a pop culture conglomerate, I'd be like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, that's actually that feels way more respectable.
Speaker 3: When people go on social media like oh shit, okay,
Speaker 3: you've actually got following.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I get the same where I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: like I'm a writer.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I do acting and people are.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, one day you'll one day you'll make something good,
Speaker 2: and I'm like.
Speaker 6: Then you turned on the TV last night, you may
Speaker 6: have seen me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it'll be that thing.
Speaker 2: It's always that where they're like, oh, just keep just
Speaker 2: keep at it, and then someone will be like I
Speaker 2: loved you and Dar's master and I'm like, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4: But you never you can't correct them, like, you know,
Speaker 4: they just realized when they follow you.
Speaker 3: And then tell me to shut the fuck out. Christ
Speaker 3: I'm fucking sick of this shit.
Speaker 4: No, but I like it, I think.
Speaker 2: And it's also it's telling like when people sort of
Speaker 2: take you at their own estimation, I'm never like, I
Speaker 2: don't feel inclined to correct them because it's fun for me.
Speaker 2: Then I get to be a character as well.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 6: Do do you feel like if someone doesn't recognize you,
Speaker 6: you can sort of drop your guard a bit and
Speaker 6: not have to be funny?
Speaker 3: Nina?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm never funny. I try. I try to
Speaker 2: be funny as little as possible.
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, I.
Speaker 2: Don't try to be fun But it's like it's whenever
Speaker 2: I have to tell someone that I do comedy, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I do comedy, but I'm not funny, like and then
Speaker 2: I think people just laugh at that because it's it's
Speaker 2: like a stupid thing to say. And then I can
Speaker 2: do whatever I want. But I just don't want people to.
Speaker 3: Expect You don't want people to expect jokes all the time.
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And also like jokes, I don't know like people what
Speaker 2: people think are jokes are like not jokes, like what
Speaker 2: people who tell me jokes, They've always tell me jokes, and.
Speaker 4: They're like, you can have this one.
Speaker 2: And it's like the most.
Speaker 9: Racist joke I've ever heard, And I'm like, dude, you
Speaker 9: can Your idea of what's funny is like not, I
Speaker 9: would never say any of that shit, so yeah, I
Speaker 9: don't know.
Speaker 2: Or it's like really lame, like a dad joke, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 3: Like dad jokes are that that? Jokes are my thing?
Speaker 4: Yeah, dumb and jad jokes everyone's thing.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, not tunment, no vulgarity, no mischief, no politics.
Speaker 3: Just be god.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, mom, I'll behave. I won't say anything controversial.
Speaker 2: I just won't say anything, okay, honey.
Speaker 6: I know if I open my mouth, I'll suck it up.
Speaker 6: I'll just won't say anything at all. And Maggie then
Speaker 6: sucks on her pacifier we call it her dummy here
Speaker 6: in Australia, and marg just gives her a frown, like
Speaker 6: even Maggie's in trouble for doing absolutely nothing wrong, and
Speaker 6: Homer says, you kid should thank your mother now that
Speaker 6: she's a better person.
Speaker 3: We can now see how awful we really are sorry.
Speaker 3: If you go back frame by frame, you can see
Speaker 3: my heartbreaking in real time. Yeah, I just oh, I
Speaker 3: love and I hate that simultaneously. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's where Marge stops. She turns around, she runs
Speaker 6: because Maggie'll be cuddle. She can't believe, Like she realize, now,
Speaker 6: this is not who I want to be. This is
Speaker 6: not who I am. And she says to Homer, I
Speaker 6: like you in your face humanity. I love the way
Speaker 6: Lisa speaks her mind. And this be here. She goes,
Speaker 6: I like Bart's he looks at me like oh, and
Speaker 6: she goes, I like Bart And I'm like, this is
Speaker 6: so beautiful, like nothing in special particular. Just I like you, buddy.
Speaker 6: I just love you. You're my boy.
Speaker 3: I love you, you know. It's just it's so sweet. Yeah.
Speaker 6: And she says she prefers her old green dress and
Speaker 6: she says, you know, I've set my life savings on
Speaker 6: this dress, but it won't mat at least we'll have
Speaker 6: a thirty three hundred oar credit shout.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think that's so funny that it's like
Speaker 2: she can't even get the money back, like she's yeah.
Speaker 6: But Homa's like, well they sell beer and gum, right,
Speaker 6: and then Marge says, let's leave because I don't want
Speaker 6: to be part of any club that wants this version
Speaker 6: of me as a member, and Lisa said they wouldn't
Speaker 6: have accepted us anyway, And it cuts to the party
Speaker 6: and welcome to Simpson family and there's a big thing
Speaker 6: just for them, and everyone's accomplished. Not here, she's missing
Speaker 6: her an initiation. Susin says, I hope she didn't take
Speaker 6: my attempts to destroy her too seriously. And mister Burns
Speaker 6: has baked home or a cake. He's pickled the figs himself.
Speaker 6: You know you made the effort as well. Just that's
Speaker 6: the best way to end it. As I was saying,
Speaker 6: is that we spent the whole episode judging these people
Speaker 6: for being rich knobs when at the end the end
Speaker 6: of the day, they really wanted what's best for the Simpsons. Yeah,
Speaker 6: but now now at Krusty Burger and the squeaky voice,
Speaker 6: Teaen says, you guys just come from the prum well
Speaker 6: Kinder and marsh as they realize, you know, they're more
Speaker 6: comfortable in a place like this, and he thinks they're crazy, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why this is a shithole.
Speaker 6: I think that's what makes this episode so relatable, just
Speaker 6: like the common viewers, because like you, at the end
Speaker 6: of the day might like the idea of going to
Speaker 6: a fancy club, but we all just be eating at
Speaker 6: Krusty Burger, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like you don't have to perform, you don't
Speaker 2: have to like pretend that you belong to this insane
Speaker 2: group of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I think I think the lesson
Speaker 3: is that you can make a Krusty Burger at home
Speaker 3: for much less.
Speaker 6: With frozen, discolored chicken and bread crumbs. And but that
Speaker 6: is the end of the episode. But yeah, so scenes
Speaker 6: from the class struggle in Springfield. It's one of my
Speaker 6: top ten favorite episodes of all time. This is the
Speaker 6: ear of the Simpsons that I because I wasn't allowed
Speaker 6: to watch the Simpsons when I was a lot younger,
Speaker 6: so when I started watching new episodes, it was about
Speaker 6: this time. So I think I hold those ones. I
Speaker 6: have more nostalgia connection to these ones. I remember watching
Speaker 6: this one when it was a new episode. But but yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm thank you for choosing this one, Nina, Oh.
Speaker 4: Thank you for letting me do it.
Speaker 2: And I can't believe it was the first episode credited
Speaker 2: to a female writer. That's so cool.
Speaker 6: Writer, and I think those female writers. But the first
Speaker 6: time I was a director and writer both female at
Speaker 6: the same time.
Speaker 4: Perfect.
Speaker 6: But yeah, thank you for chatting for so long, so
Speaker 6: we've kept.
Speaker 3: You for so long.
Speaker 4: No, that's okay. I'm really unemployed, so thank you for all.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Fun employed, I believe is the current term.
Speaker 2: But I'm fun employed. I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not unemployed. I'm still like working on stuff. But
Speaker 4: it's fair. I think.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's not being like staffed on a TV
Speaker 2: show or having to go into work every day, I
Speaker 2: guess is my version of I usually have three jobs
Speaker 2: at once, so to have not one consistent ongoing job
Speaker 2: is very like to me, I feel I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm at sea or something like lost in my free time.
Speaker 3: What are you working on right now? As Gnomes started
Speaker 3: filming yet, Yeah, we filmed that.
Speaker 4: That finished a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2: But what's coming up? I mean, like Deadlock season two
Speaker 2: I think will come out next year. So if you
Speaker 2: want to rewatch Deadlock season one, go ahead and do that.
Speaker 3: There's a bit of a gap in between seasons, right yeah,
Speaker 3: they did.
Speaker 2: I think it's because they were like writing it and
Speaker 2: then to film Deadlock. It takes quite a long time
Speaker 2: because there's so many moving parts and there's so many
Speaker 2: like parts of the crime story.
Speaker 4: But I just I think it's gonna come out soon.
Speaker 2: I've seen the first four episodes and it's absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy, but it is like Darwin is an
Speaker 2: incredible setting for a TV show, and I think everyone's
Speaker 2: gonna they're just like the punchlines come thick and fast
Speaker 2: with this season. It's so good.
Speaker 3: But can you tell us a little bit about Gnomes.
Speaker 3: I just know it's a horror comedy.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: Nomes is so fucking funny. It is a horror comedy.
Speaker 3: It's just is it coming out Halloween time or when's
Speaker 3: it coming out?
Speaker 4: I think it's coming out next winter.
Speaker 2: And then I'm in another show called Sunny Nights, which
Speaker 2: is coming out this summer.
Speaker 4: But it's all these things.
Speaker 2: That like I'm in this interim where like I've banked
Speaker 2: all this stuff and then it'll be in the future.
Speaker 6: Well, you're clearly your name now that it's like having
Speaker 6: Nina associated is a positive, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool and the names. I got to play
Speaker 2: a horny milk, so like pretty much in every scene
Speaker 2: that I'm in, I'm like spilling, like you know, I'm
Speaker 2: milf age, guys, I did it. I may I'm a
Speaker 2: milk now, but man, I'm thirty two, Like what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Thirty seven and four days? Please calm down?
Speaker 2: Or two days even good dilf, I guess you'd call it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I did have to wear like quite like
Speaker 2: a leopard. I remember they like put me. I got
Speaker 2: like they put me in like a costume, and they
Speaker 2: do this thing where they'll try like five different costumes
Speaker 2: on for the character.
Speaker 4: And I've got put.
Speaker 2: In all these little type dresses that were like kind
Speaker 2: of middi dresses. They were across the knee tight and
Speaker 2: then yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bit peppery for me.
Speaker 2: But they then they on the fifth dress, they were like,
Speaker 2: let's just chuck in like the sluttiest option. It was
Speaker 2: like a tiny, tiny denim skirt and like a leopard
Speaker 2: print bra and like this brown lace thing.
Speaker 4: And I remember putting it on and me and.
Speaker 2: The costume girl were just like, there's no way they'll
Speaker 2: pick that. That's the one that they chose, and so
Speaker 2: it's very funny watching me like teeter around in this
Speaker 2: kind of skimpy outfit, filing like cream all over my hands,
Speaker 2: and I don't know, I had to do a lot
Speaker 2: of like dumb like sexy mel for acting, which, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm really growing as an actor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, The Gnomes is gonna be great.
Speaker 2: It's it's about a small sleepy town cop who's basically
Speaker 2: put in charge of the regional Gnome festival and this
Speaker 2: evil spirit in the form of a nome queen, ends
Speaker 2: up bringing all the gnomes to life and they kill
Speaker 2: they try and kill all the humans, and there are some.
Speaker 4: Really hilarious deaths. Anyway, I can't say anymore.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've ad.
Speaker 6: I'm a nightties kid. So I grew up on the
Speaker 6: Goosebumps books. Goosebumps books. Yes, there is a book called
Speaker 6: Revenge of the Garden Gnomes which sounds very similar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's definitely as silly and as funny
Speaker 2: as a Goosebump book.
Speaker 3: And Sunny Nights is there. It's like a crime comedy
Speaker 3: dramma with Will Forte and Darcy Cardon from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really funny as well. So they play like
Speaker 2: a brother and sister who I think sell Tanning Beds.
Speaker 2: I was just in one little scene for that, but
Speaker 2: the scripts were really, really funny, and.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 2: And it's so cool that this stuff gets shot in
Speaker 2: Australia now. And I got to meet Darcy Carton, which
Speaker 2: was wild. But yeah, watch them when they come out
Speaker 2: whenever that is. But yeah, until then, I'm I'm just
Speaker 2: working on a I'm writing a feature film, but that's
Speaker 2: neither here nor there really, Well.
Speaker 6: Sure be in cinemas soon in years. Well, well, thank you,
Speaker 6: and when you are super super super super famous after
Speaker 6: all these shows, don't forget about it as and we'll
Speaker 6: have to have you back on the show again sometime.
Speaker 2: I won next timme im in Geelong Man, hit me here?
Speaker 2: You up?
Speaker 3: What had he ever been to Geelong? Don't lie. You've
Speaker 3: never been to Geelong.
Speaker 4: Literally never in my entire life.
Speaker 2: But Dave Ashby, who was a writer on Koala Man,
Speaker 2: used to zoom in from Geelong every single day we
Speaker 2: wrote that show.
Speaker 4: So I'm familiar with you.
Speaker 3: Flew over us when you were when you were when
Speaker 3: you were going down to Tasmania to make Deadlock.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, well, thank you againting it
Speaker 6: a few of time, and I'm all the best of
Speaker 6: all the projects you were coming up in the near future.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you too.
Speaker 2: I'll see have me on the Seinfeld one, have me
Speaker 2: on John Cougar mellon Camp podcastd Cougar Melon cast.
Speaker 6: It Rights herself told you she was a charmer.
Speaker 3: You weren't lying.
Speaker 6: It must be love in absolute legend, absolute champion. And yeah,
Speaker 6: she's just she's just kicking so many goals lately.
Speaker 3: She certainly is. And yeah, look added another one to
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Speaker 3: and absolutely killing it exactly right. Great guest, Very very
Speaker 3: happy to speak to Nina. Come make any time. Ninna
Speaker 3: could be most welcome.
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