Speaker 1: Amusement parks, amusement parks. You know of an abandoned amusement park,
Speaker 1: you know where it is. You visited it once when
Speaker 1: you were seventeen. Your parents said stay away from there.
Speaker 1: You could get hurt in there. Amazingly, most amusement parks
Speaker 1: that failed abandoned left, even big ones like six Flags,
Speaker 1: They're just allowed to stay there. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but this is true across America, and it is fascinated
Speaker 1: Michelle Gibson. This mesmerizes Michelle Gibson, who has spent months
Speaker 1: studying abandoned places in America. Michelle, Welcome to the other
Speaker 1: side of Midnight.
Speaker 2: Hi, Walter, and thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: Now share with us before, share with us now the
Speaker 1: name of your website and exactly how I should title you.
Speaker 2: My website is Piercingtheveil of Illusion dot com and I
Speaker 2: am an independent researcher of hidden history, and I put
Speaker 2: my research in a blog and then I make videos
Speaker 2: out of them.
Speaker 1: What's the YouTube channel?
Speaker 2: My YouTube channel is at Michelle Gibson eighty nine forty six.
Speaker 1: I will put all of that on the Walter Sterling
Speaker 1: Facebook page. All that information will be there. Michelle, Gibson
Speaker 1: is one of our favorite contributors. Always has great mysteries,
Speaker 1: great conspiracies, and unlike most of the people who do that,
Speaker 1: she actually does the research. She's a real academic. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. Talk to us about abandon amusement.
Speaker 2: Parks, and yes, it is. It is something that's very
Speaker 2: interesting to me. And on the times you've had me
Speaker 2: on the show in the past, Walter, we've talked about
Speaker 2: inter urbans, which for street cars, electric street car going
Speaker 2: at really fast speeds in between cities. And this wasn't
Speaker 2: just in North America, this was all over the world.
Speaker 2: Most of them are long gone. There's a few functioning
Speaker 2: around the world. Ones in in the United Kingdom on
Speaker 2: the Isle of Man they still have a functioning innurban
Speaker 2: that can show you what it was like. And I
Speaker 2: think Japan has some. I'm thinking New Zealand has, but
Speaker 2: for most part they're gone. And there used to be
Speaker 2: extensive street car systems around the turn of the twentieth century,
Speaker 2: so late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, there were highly advanced,
Speaker 2: non polluting forms of transportation available and they went away.
Speaker 2: And the subject of amusement parks is very relevant to
Speaker 2: this subject because the history we're told about street cars
Speaker 2: and urbansxt inextricably tied to the history of these amusement parks,
Speaker 2: and all of them are for the most part in
Speaker 2: existence for only a short time before they were gone,
Speaker 2: so again at late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds. And
Speaker 2: what we're told about them about these amusement parks is
Speaker 2: that they were built by the streetcar companies to attract
Speaker 2: business on weekends, so they had commuters during the week
Speaker 2: they needed someplace for people to go spend money to
Speaker 2: use their services, and so they were said to have
Speaker 2: started as trolley parks around the turn of the century,
Speaker 2: as picnic recreation and entertainment areas at the inns of
Speaker 2: streetcar lines, and that these were supposed to have been
Speaker 2: precursors to amusement parks. And they had everything the amusement
Speaker 2: parks had. They had roller coasters, they had Farris wheels,
Speaker 2: they had midways, and the early twentieth century was considered
Speaker 2: the golden age of the American amusement park and there
Speaker 2: were hundreds of parks in the United States alone at
Speaker 2: the end of these trolley lines, and there was an
Speaker 2: estimated fifteen hundred to two thousand all together at one
Speaker 2: point in time. And this is what you find when
Speaker 2: you start looking to try to find the information. There
Speaker 2: could have been a lot more, but that's the number
Speaker 2: they give us. And then they started to disappear. And
Speaker 2: some of the reasons that we're given it's a great depression,
Speaker 2: reducing disposable income, and World War two disrupting leisure. In construction,
Speaker 2: there was growing competition from movies and radio, televisivision chopping
Speaker 2: malls and bowling alleys. But whatever the reason, they couldn't
Speaker 2: economically compete and they were closed down or they were
Speaker 2: burned down, and that happened to a lot of them.
Speaker 2: So either they went out of business and they were
Speaker 2: sold and turned into real estate, or they were sold
Speaker 2: to real estate developers who turned them into something presidential
Speaker 2: areas a lot of times. And you know, we don't
Speaker 2: have anything like this today. We have amusement parks. But
Speaker 2: these were connected to trolleys specifically.
Speaker 1: So they were trolley parts, the specifically part of the
Speaker 1: trolley economy. And you mentioned something that always catches my
Speaker 1: attention because it was a phenomena in the late eighteen hundreds,
Speaker 1: not so much recently not so passed. In the past
Speaker 1: one hundred years, you said a lot of them were
Speaker 1: burned down. There seems to be that in the eighteen
Speaker 1: hundreds a lot of things were burned down for scurrilous reasons.
Speaker 1: Is that true?
Speaker 2: They were burned down, and likely scurrilous reasons, but you
Speaker 2: know there was cause unknown was typical, or the fire
Speaker 2: was started by a spark, that's some kind in the
Speaker 2: whole place burned down, And again that that is probably
Speaker 2: the most common ending for a lot of these trolley parks.
Speaker 2: But like you said, well after there's a lot that
Speaker 2: were just left to rotten place and chip Awop. There's
Speaker 2: one in outside of Cleveland, unlet's say it was called
Speaker 2: Chippiwah Park that was left abandoned. And when I was
Speaker 2: looking at the research for it recently, it sounds like
Speaker 2: maybe they're redeveloping it now, but for years it was
Speaker 2: just there. And the other thing that I'm finding when
Speaker 2: I was looking, especially around the Great Lakes, but in
Speaker 2: other places as well, but let's use the Great Lakes
Speaker 2: as an example, is that these amusement parks are in
Speaker 2: really strange places. And so I mean, if you look
Speaker 2: at theear Point in Sandowsky is that Have you been
Speaker 2: there before, Walter?
Speaker 1: I've been a Cedar Point, but it's a roller It's
Speaker 1: really a roller coaster park, and I'm terrified of roller coasters.
Speaker 1: But it's so I don't participate. Uh. I went there
Speaker 1: once because I have children, and I'm like, I don't know, However,
Speaker 1: I've been. I've been to a number of amusement parks
Speaker 1: the kind that you're referring to. Tell us why you
Speaker 1: think they're in strange places, and tell us why these
Speaker 1: were so viable because of the trolleys.
Speaker 2: Well, I answer to your first question. I've found them
Speaker 2: in and play and like on spits of land surrounded
Speaker 2: by water, you know, barrel enough room for a part,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't think it could put a park there. So
Speaker 2: I bring up Cedar Point because if you look at it,
Speaker 2: you take a look at it on Google Earth, it's
Speaker 2: on a peninsula.
Speaker 1: It's on a peninsula, and it's near nothing. That's the
Speaker 1: other thing.
Speaker 2: It's near nothing, you know, I mean there's like I said,
Speaker 2: there's there's not much land there to support all the
Speaker 2: stuff that's there. And then that was repeated over and
Speaker 2: over again. You know, whatever's left of parks that no
Speaker 2: longer exist, are in places that are really marshy wetland areas.
Speaker 2: There are several like that around Toledo. So, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just it's just the stories don't make sense. And
Speaker 2: I really believe that this was part of the infrastructure
Speaker 2: of a civilization that we haven't been told about that
Speaker 2: you and I've been talking about Walter in the time
Speaker 2: that we've been discussing the subject.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I call it. I call it Tartaria. You may
Speaker 1: have a different name.
Speaker 2: It's best known as Tartaria, but it's it's the civilization
Speaker 2: that's been deliberately kept promise, and we're basically living on
Speaker 2: top of it. And everything we've been told about our history,
Speaker 2: you know, we've been given an explanation for everything, but
Speaker 2: when you really look into what we're told we were
Speaker 2: capable of the time, you know, it just doesn't it
Speaker 2: really doesn't add up. You know. It's like we've been
Speaker 2: told a story about things to explain them, and we
Speaker 2: didn't have the Internet. We wouldn't like myself wouldn't be
Speaker 2: able to do the resource, but we wouldn't have any
Speaker 2: way of knowing.
Speaker 1: What do you think the ultimate motive was to change
Speaker 1: the timelines and change the story of our history. What
Speaker 1: do you think the motivation was.
Speaker 2: My opinion is the motivation was basically power and control.
Speaker 2: And this this grid is still in existence. A lot
Speaker 2: of people talk about a free energy grid associated with
Speaker 2: this civilization that's best known as Tartaria. That's my opinion
Speaker 2: is that there was a sophisticated energy grid. My opinion
Speaker 2: is also that this energy grid was destroyed and that's
Speaker 2: what caused a lot of the marshy lands and wetlands
Speaker 2: and so forth. And it's still being utilized but in
Speaker 2: a different way. And they had to find replacement sources
Speaker 2: of fuel and energy when this grid was destroyed, and
Speaker 2: that's where we get standard oil coming in and cars
Speaker 2: and buses. And then once the cars and buses were
Speaker 2: in place, they got rid of everything essentially.
Speaker 1: So you don't think that the energy grid was destroyed
Speaker 1: to force us to use oil. You think it was
Speaker 1: destroyed by something else and the solution was to use oil.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they needed to get it up and
Speaker 2: running again as soon as possible, and that's what they
Speaker 2: had available to them.
Speaker 1: Michelle Gibson, the great researcher, Michelle, what's the name of
Speaker 1: that website.
Speaker 2: Again, piercing the veil of illusion dot com.
Speaker 1: Piercing the veil of illusion dot com. Michelle Gibson, researcher extraordinaire,
Speaker 1: terrific guest on the radio Magical Guest raises the sort
Speaker 1: of things that we love to think about all night.
Speaker 1: Michelle Gibson, thank you for being on the other side
Speaker 1: of midnight.