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<v Speaker 1>It's Night's Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you please,

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, a subject that we talk about often

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<v Speaker 2>is Boston traffic, and whenever there's a traffic report that

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<v Speaker 2>comes out that implicates Boston drivers problems for Boston drivers,

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<v Speaker 2>we like to talk about it. So the Boston Herald

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<v Speaker 2>Today interesting article by Grace Djakovic at Boston Herald dot

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<v Speaker 2>com says that Boston ranks fourth in the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>fourth worst in the United States, and twelfth in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Twelfth worst in the world in terms of overall congestion.

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<v Speaker 2>Now in Boston, Boston typical driver lost eighty eight hours

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<v Speaker 2>to traffic throughout the year. This is an unbelievable amount

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<v Speaker 2>of time when you think about it. It also means

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<v Speaker 2>that when they lost eighty eight hours of time just

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in traffic, average speed of Boston's downtown driver is

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen miles an hour. Now, I know we're an old city.

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<v Speaker 2>I get all of that. I totally get all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>But this is crazy. We spent I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four billion dollars on the big dig back from

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<v Speaker 2>the late eighties through the nineties. Those of you who

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<v Speaker 2>weren't living here at the time, don't remember the inconvenience

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<v Speaker 2>of the big dig. But we were told, oh, when

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<v Speaker 2>the big dig is done, we're going to be just fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we're not. We're not just fine. In Boston, we

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<v Speaker 2>lost seventy nine Computing to the report found that Boston

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<v Speaker 2>drivers lost seventy nine hours. That's I mean, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time and and fourteen dollars sitting in traffic. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this this is crazy. I was driving yesterday. I was

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<v Speaker 2>actually my wife was driving, and we were going down

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<v Speaker 2>Beacon Street. I try to avoid Beacon Street, all of

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<v Speaker 2>those streets whenever I can, put me on store drive

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<v Speaker 2>and let me get out of town. But my wife's

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<v Speaker 2>not a fan of store drive. So we were driving

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<v Speaker 2>down Beacon Street. Those of you who live in Boston,

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<v Speaker 2>no Beacon Street. So from Beacon Street and Charles Street

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<v Speaker 2>to Mass Avenue probably like two miles maybe tops two

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<v Speaker 2>and a half had to take us at least twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>There are bike lanes all the way down on both

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<v Speaker 2>sides of the street, right side, left side. There are

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<v Speaker 2>parking lanes on both sides of the street on both

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<v Speaker 2>on the on the right side, I guess it's one

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<v Speaker 2>way street heading out bound, and basically we're down to

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<v Speaker 2>two lanes. It used to be three lanes on Beacon Street.

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<v Speaker 2>It was built as a y thoroughfare, Commonwealth Avenue, y thoroughfare,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's maddening. It's maddening because yesterday this was noontime

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<v Speaker 2>or show twelve thirty one o'clock, there was double park

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<v Speaker 2>People double parked and have banded their cars. So in

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<v Speaker 2>many areas of Beacon Street it was down to one

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<v Speaker 2>lane in traffic. There were I didn't see any police

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<v Speaker 2>cars out ticketing people. But now again I'm not looking

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<v Speaker 2>for people to be penalized, but when you lose, when

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<v Speaker 2>you have two bike lanes and then two sides of

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<v Speaker 2>the street for parking, you need parking. Living in the

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<v Speaker 2>back bay, and you're going to have double parking of

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<v Speaker 2>abandoned cars, SUVs, and for the most part you're down

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<v Speaker 2>to one lane. It took about twenty minutes to get

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<v Speaker 2>from Charles Street to Mass Avenue, which is insane. It's

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely insane. Now in New York they've come up with

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<v Speaker 2>congestion congestion pricing, and they had this funny phrase for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they call it What's the phrase they call

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<v Speaker 2>it congestion relief. They will have congestion relief by charging

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<v Speaker 2>you money if you want to be in Lower Manhattan

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere from the south side of Central Park south all

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<v Speaker 2>the way down through Soho and Wall Street nine dollars

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<v Speaker 2>for each car. This is insane. It is absolutely insane.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a continuing attack on automobile drivers. Uh, those

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<v Speaker 2>who are in power in major American cities want to

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<v Speaker 2>eliminate automobile traffic in their city. That's what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can you can phrase it in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>climate change. What difference is that going to make? Not

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<v Speaker 2>going to make any difference at all, as long as

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<v Speaker 2>countries like Pakistan and India and trying to keep belching

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<v Speaker 2>stuff up into the atmosphere. Uh, the fact that that

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be driving riding in the MBTA or

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<v Speaker 2>driving a tricycle to work, it won't make a difference. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can drive a tricycle. That that's they're allowed in

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<v Speaker 2>a bike lane. Let me go to Jim and Kansas City. Jim, welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>you are next on NIGHTSIDEM going to start us off

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<v Speaker 2>as our Jim gard ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan, Hey, thanks for taking my call and then thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about this, since you talked about it on Friday night. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the reason why we call it congestion relief

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<v Speaker 3>pricing is because if they call it, and if they

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<v Speaker 3>don't call it that, then it could be construed as

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<v Speaker 3>restricting people's rights under the first Article eighth section the

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<v Speaker 3>right to travel. It's it's it's not really a right

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<v Speaker 3>to travel. It's a right to have commerce or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's I mean, generally, I think it's it's viewed

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<v Speaker 3>as a right to be able to travel and unimpeded

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<v Speaker 3>from one municipality, one governments to another. And they say that.

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<v Speaker 3>So the only way they're going to get away with

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<v Speaker 3>it is if they say that they're trying to increase

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<v Speaker 3>people's ability to travel.

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<v Speaker 2>Rather than understand the point you're making. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>it's a tough point that you're trying to make legally.

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<v Speaker 2>Look right, do you.

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<v Speaker 3>Think it's well, then do you think they should be

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<v Speaker 3>it's illegal under that? Under that, No, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to win that argument because they're going to say, look,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not impeding people's right to travel. We're simply saying

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<v Speaker 2>that we need to regulate transportation within our community, and

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<v Speaker 2>if we in our community decide we want to have

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<v Speaker 2>do you know how much money they've spent on bike

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<v Speaker 2>lanes in Boston gym. Boston is on the same size

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<v Speaker 2>as a city as Kansas City. I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a huge metropolis. It's not New York, Chicago, Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a guest as to how much the city of

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<v Speaker 2>Boston has spent in the last couple of years on

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<v Speaker 2>bike lanes. Take a guess.

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<v Speaker 3>I might I might have heard you say this before.

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<v Speaker 3>Fourteen million, one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundred and twenty one million dollars on bike lanes.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yut, it's crazy, it's insane. And the number of

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<v Speaker 2>people who use bikes compared to the number of people

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<v Speaker 2>who use cars. We're an automotive society, but they want

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<v Speaker 2>us out of the cars. They want to make it

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<v Speaker 2>so expensive that people like you and me will say,

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<v Speaker 2>I give up, I'll take We call it the MBTA here.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they call it in Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 2>but rapid transit, public transportation, or drive your bikes to work.

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<v Speaker 2>And every month somebody in Boston is killed riding a bike. Sad, horrible,

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<v Speaker 2>but you put people out of this sort of weather,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, all all you need is one person

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<v Speaker 2>to make a bad decision and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>they find themselves under a truck. It's but but they

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<v Speaker 2>could kill less. They could kill less about the lives

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<v Speaker 2>of bicyclists. They are only reacting to the bike lobby,

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<v Speaker 2>and which is, give us as many bike lanes as

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<v Speaker 2>you want, take, you know, take the roads away from

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<v Speaker 2>from drivers. Do you have bike lanes in Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 2>gym or no?

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<v Speaker 3>They have a few of them, not very many. And

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have very many trains either. They have this

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<v Speaker 3>one train that they put kind of downtown and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a it's a big deal because it runs through places

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<v Speaker 3>where people used to park their cars. There's not very

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<v Speaker 3>much free parking either. There's parking, but so you have

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<v Speaker 3>to pay and then walk. And there's places where people

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<v Speaker 3>in high places used to park their cars, like right

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<v Speaker 3>in from a city hall, and that train runs right

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<v Speaker 3>path there now, so you can't park a car there.

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<v Speaker 3>And there was a big uproar, oh probably five years

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<v Speaker 3>ago about this real powerful city council person who insisted

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<v Speaker 3>on continuing to park a car there, and it turned

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<v Speaker 3>into a big fiasco.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't mind seeing the politicians lose their parking spaces,

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<v Speaker 2>but really, you know, I mean, at least they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>giving up parking spaces in Kansas City. The city councils

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston they have nice underground parking and city Hall,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're taken care of. They don't have to want

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know, Oh, that's that's to me, that

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<v Speaker 4>that's one hope that you might have is to get

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<v Speaker 4>it struck down or prohib.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're you're a constitutional scholar. If you think that

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<v Speaker 2>that's if you can find some constitutional lawyer, good luck.

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<v Speaker 2>But like anything else, they're gonna say, Look, you could

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<v Speaker 2>make that same argument over parking meters. You could say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>parking meters tie up streets. This is a purely political

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<v Speaker 2>effort by a lot of the progressive city cities in America,

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<v Speaker 2>and Boston leads the way. If you get them in

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City, stop them before they get going gym because

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<v Speaker 2>they know they want bike lanes everywhere everywhere. Trust me

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<v Speaker 2>on them. Okay, okay, they have some, but keep it

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<v Speaker 2>down to a minimum. Trust me, it's not worth it,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in the city like Boston.

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<v Speaker 3>There's one there's one place over here. There's a kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a street where it's it's kind of hard to explain,

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<v Speaker 3>but you have to unless you want to go way

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<v Speaker 3>out of your way, you have to take this street.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called in one place is called Truman, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it becomes I think something else, but end me a picture.

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<v Speaker 2>So I it's tough to explain it on the radio. Gym.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta run. I gotta break.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a place where the road goes straight from two

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<v Speaker 3>lane so one lane, without almost no warning whatsoever, in

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<v Speaker 3>order to accommodate the bike lane.

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<v Speaker 2>We got plenty of those in Boston. We got plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of those roads in Boston, Gym, trust me. Hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta run, Jim, I gotta I got a commercial break.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta get to Thank you much, appreciate you call.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take a break. Six one, seven, two thirty, triple

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<v Speaker 2>eight nine two, nine, ten thirty. Are you looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to congestion pricing in Boston? You know what that means.

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<v Speaker 2>It means that you and I will have to pay

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<v Speaker 2>nine bucks, ten bucks whatever just to drive for the

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<v Speaker 2>privilege of driving into the city. Uh. And all it

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<v Speaker 2>will mean is the only the uber wealthy, meaning those

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<v Speaker 2>who work in law firms and uh, they get their

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<v Speaker 2>their their vehicles, all their expenses are paid. The average person, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know is gonna end up. They're forcing you

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<v Speaker 2>to ride in the MBTA, just like they're forcing you

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<v Speaker 2>in New York. We're gonna talk about congestion pricing. We

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<v Speaker 2>talked about it the other night. I want to continue

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about it tonight back on night Side six

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<v Speaker 2>one seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven, nine,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. I'd love to hear from anyone in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>They had it yesterday and today was the first workday

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<v Speaker 2>of congestion pricing. I'm sure, I'm sure that New Yorkers

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<v Speaker 2>are the average person, the working people. They're the ones

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<v Speaker 2>who are really going to take it, take the brunt

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<v Speaker 2>of this, this this folly, nothing, nothing more than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Back on Nightside after.

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<v Speaker 1>This, Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window

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<v Speaker 1>World night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're talking about congestion pricing in New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to come to Boston, so be prepared. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me by the way, I just want to play a

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<v Speaker 2>has to be like the dumbest governor in America. But

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<v Speaker 2>she's trying to tell people it's going to cost the

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<v Speaker 2>average driver of an automobile nine dollars. Trucks will be more,

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<v Speaker 2>or SUVs, I think will be more. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>cut number thirty two, Rob. This is where she explains

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<v Speaker 2>how that charging you nine dollars a day to go

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm proud to announce we have found a path

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<v Speaker 5>to find the MTA reduce congestion and keep millions of

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<v Speaker 5>dollars in the pockets of our commuters. Under this plan,

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<v Speaker 5>a reduced daytime toll of nine dollars beginning in January.

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<v Speaker 5>You heard that correctly. It was fifteen dollars before and

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<v Speaker 5>now it is nine dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>That is a forty percent reduction. This lower toll will

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<v Speaker 6>save daily commuters nearly fifteen hundred dollars annually, and that

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<v Speaker 2>How stupid does she think the average New Yorker is

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're a New Yorker, how stupid. We were

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<v Speaker 2>going to charge you nine. So you get a savings

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<v Speaker 2>there of forty percent. You're still out nine dollars a day,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're saving you fifteen hundred dollars a year. That

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<v Speaker 2>is just I mean, you talk about and when you

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<v Speaker 2>she has to be the most arrogant as well as

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<v Speaker 2>the dumbest governed in America. Six one, seven, nine, three, one,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. That's the only line is open. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>go to Phil in Boston. I'll bet you Phil is

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<v Speaker 7>Then in this play, this is crazy. You mentioned that governor.

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<v Speaker 7>She may sound like we're paying fifty. They're paying fifteen

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<v Speaker 7>dollars already, so we're saving you six dollars and who's

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<v Speaker 7>gonna pay? Hey, how are they gonna pay it? I'm

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<v Speaker 7>so much gonna be coming off your little chess bitty

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, there's two ways. Here's how they're gonna get it. No,

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<v Speaker 2>two ways. One, if you are an easy pass person

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever they call the different states, it will just

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<v Speaker 2>click on to your monthly bill. But let's assume that

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<v Speaker 2>got a license plate, they'll take a picture of your

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<v Speaker 2>license plate. They have all these they've spent millions of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to put up all of these cameras, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know they've they could care less. But yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's jim. I'm I'm gonna stick you up with a

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<v Speaker 2>gun when I see you on the street, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say, give me your wallet, and I'm gonna say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you got two hundred dollars in your wallet. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna take one hundred and fifty dollars out of your wallet. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>you can keep fifty. So I've saved you by robbing you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've saved you one hundred and fifty dollars because it

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<v Speaker 2>could have been two hundred.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't give any ideas. Then what happens if you have

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<v Speaker 7>to go in town and you pbably don't have the

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<v Speaker 7>answer to this, who does who? When you have to

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<v Speaker 7>go in towns that pick up someone in the city

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<v Speaker 7>hall would have pay a bill, then you have to

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<v Speaker 7>grow the new back end and pick up your daughter

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<v Speaker 7>or someone's friend, whatever, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Every every every time you go in.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't even get my tax bill in the mill

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<v Speaker 7>because either it's gonna this is And you mentioned a

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<v Speaker 7>bike lane for bikes, and you mentioned a billion dollars

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<v Speaker 7>I have seen. The only things I see in the

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<v Speaker 7>bike lane is one gentleman with a little thing he

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<v Speaker 7>made up with a baby in the back that I

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<v Speaker 7>think it's crazy. And the rest of unicycles, uh mopens

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<v Speaker 7>and no helmets on. No, no, how are they gonna

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<v Speaker 7>get the plate? How is this? This is this? You're right,

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<v Speaker 7>they're trying to get us. They don't want to have

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<v Speaker 7>us all walking along with turkeys, and no one will

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<v Speaker 7>be able to drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's the only people who will be able

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<v Speaker 2>to drive will be the uber wealthy who for them

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<v Speaker 2>nine dollars a day is like a.

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<v Speaker 4>Nickel right off or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll tell you, you keep electing the same politicians,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get the same result. What do they say

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<v Speaker 2>if it's insanity? When you're doing the same thing over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again and you think to yourself that somehow

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get a different result. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>beat your head against the wall, you have a headache,

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<v Speaker 2>You get up the next day, you beat yourself against

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<v Speaker 2>the wall, you have a headache. Keep going doing it

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<v Speaker 2>every day until you stop beating your head against the wall,

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<v Speaker 2>You're always gonna get headaches.

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<v Speaker 7>Let me get this bully's bills? How can people survive

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<v Speaker 7>the tax? Bull of this and that the pizza coffee

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<v Speaker 7>is for? I mean it's crazy. I mean they keep

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<v Speaker 7>piling and olliver. They know we can pay. I think

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<v Speaker 7>we should go on Swike and don't no one drive

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<v Speaker 7>their car in a Boston within reason, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>is this crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>They do not care? Uh, they do not care because

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<v Speaker 2>they think you're stupid. They think that you don't vote,

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<v Speaker 2>and they think that that people overall will just return them.

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<v Speaker 2>I've said, I've told you before. You go to the diner,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you're in Boston somewhere or you're in a suburb.

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<v Speaker 2>And every once in a while you're there and the

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<v Speaker 2>state rep comes by and pat you in the back.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't know you did. He gives you the big hey,

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<v Speaker 2>how you doing great to see you? Remember me? Come

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<v Speaker 2>to Alexandine Representative Smugsborg. Thank you very much? Now house

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<v Speaker 2>wife and kids? Oh you're not married. I'm sorry, I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 2>They think we're idiots.

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<v Speaker 7>And thanks. I'm glad we agree on this, and then

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<v Speaker 7>maybe this might get the word out. It's it's got

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<v Speaker 7>a it's got the stop. Sweet. Oh you coun't even

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<v Speaker 7>get so much lemonade. I'm a lemon man.

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<v Speaker 2>They could kill us. They could kill us. They they

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<v Speaker 2>will soak you until you're dead, okay, and they'll even

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<v Speaker 2>soak you after your dead. It's as simple as that,

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<v Speaker 2>because they got to keep the revenue coming in so

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<v Speaker 2>they can put their their their stupid brothers in law

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<v Speaker 2>on the payroll. What's going on? Thanks? Phil, talks talk soon.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a great one.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Love your passion, man, love your passion. Coming back on Nightside,

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<v Speaker 2>I got Melissa and Oregon coming up, got Robert, Michael

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<v Speaker 2>and Maureen and I got room for you only line

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<v Speaker 2>open six one thirty. Will be right back on nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Ray on Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the phones. You're are going to go to

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<v Speaker 2>Melissa out in Oregon. Hey, Melissa, welcome. How many bike

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<v Speaker 2>lanes you got out there? Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Too many to count? Give a lot. And it's.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm a baker, you're important.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, I actually live pretty close to the on

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<v Speaker 8>Town and there are these lanes that you stop a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit. All right, It's just it's I still can't

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<v Speaker 8>figure them out. So it's and I'm a biker and

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<v Speaker 8>I can't figure them out. And but my question to

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<v Speaker 8>you on the New York thing, and I've looked this up,

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<v Speaker 8>but I haven't been able to figure out an answer.

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<v Speaker 8>It sounded like the governor of New York said they

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<v Speaker 8>reduced it from fifteen. So was it already implemented au.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, no. They started oh yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, uh, well we're going to have this,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had some sort of a committee to come

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<v Speaker 2>up and said it we'll be fifteen dollars. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 2>so at that point the politician, the governor step say says, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it should be fifteen. Let's make it nine.

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<v Speaker 2>We're saving everybody six dollars. You were not saving anybody anything.

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<v Speaker 2>You're charging him nine dollars.

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<v Speaker 8>It's exactly then the impact to live drivers, uber drivers's

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<v Speaker 8>going straight to the customer. And I'm curious how cabs,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, will they just stay within a certain zone,

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<v Speaker 8>because otherwise they're not going to want to leave the zone.

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<v Speaker 8>And then have to come back in and pay nine dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what it is, it's it's just anything south of

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<v Speaker 2>all the way down you know, to to Soho and

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<v Speaker 2>Battery March or whatever. Yeah, so that's the place. I

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<v Speaker 2>just think what it's going to do anybody. First of all, look,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're uber wealthy and you can fly into New

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<v Speaker 2>York and you know, take a h an uber or

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<v Speaker 2>a limo and and you don't care what the cost is, great, great,

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<v Speaker 2>good luck. But if you're somebody from Boston who wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to drive down to the city, Boston's it's like four

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<v Speaker 2>hour drive from here. You're gonna drive down in the

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<v Speaker 2>city and pay one hundred dollars a night to park

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<v Speaker 2>your car, Pay five hundred dollars a night for some

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<v Speaker 2>fleabag hotel in New York City. I mean, give me

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<v Speaker 8>Just mentioned you might not have a restaurant, sorry enough,

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<v Speaker 8>you might not have a restaurant to go to, because

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<v Speaker 8>that's going to be passed on to restaurants every time

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<v Speaker 8>they get a delivery to their location. So they may

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<v Speaker 8>not have any place to visit. They might have money

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<v Speaker 8>to go there. They might not have anything to visit,

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<v Speaker 8>and they might not have workers.

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<v Speaker 2>And what they're saying is that the money will help

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<v Speaker 2>the the what they call the MTA, the Metro Transit

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<v Speaker 2>Authority or whatever is in New York. So yeah, take

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<v Speaker 2>the subway in New York, but watch your back because

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<v Speaker 2>someone might try to push you in front of an

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<v Speaker 2>oncoming train. And whatever you do, don't fall asleep because

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<v Speaker 8>So and you know, so is your life worth nine dollars?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, it's just it makes no sense. And you know,

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<v Speaker 8>one of the things that we have a very nice

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<v Speaker 8>metro system here, it's called TriMet and it's that they

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<v Speaker 8>do an excellent job with it and it does run

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<v Speaker 8>on time and all those and the buses are good here.

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<v Speaker 8>But I don't know that trains and buses and bike

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<v Speaker 8>lanes solve all problems. And it feels like the urban

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<v Speaker 8>planning folks they're focused on, I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 8>right way to say it is that they're they're just

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<v Speaker 8>missing the bigger picture and the costs are just killing people.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's just it's just something seems backwards.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how is Portland doing as a city a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago. I mean they were in real

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<v Speaker 2>dire straits. They're homeless population, people setting up in people's backyards.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that you had police stations that were being burned

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<v Speaker 2>and people were protesting. I mean, Portland looked like like

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<v Speaker 8>It has? I knew, you know. I lived here for

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<v Speaker 8>four years, and I came back in May of twenty three,

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<v Speaker 8>and there were things that surprised me. I live about

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<v Speaker 8>a mile and a half from downtown in a very

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<v Speaker 8>quiet neighborhood, but there were things in my neighborhood that

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<v Speaker 8>I noticed had changed. They have started to clean up there.

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<v Speaker 8>The new mayor, things have changed.

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<v Speaker 2>What they were. They had a mayor out there who

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<v Speaker 2>was a bit of a cuckle bird who I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was different.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, cool, different, Yeah, I mean, hi, I like the

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<v Speaker 8>new gentleman. He wants city employees to come back to work,

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<v Speaker 8>and they're fighting him on. It's like, come on, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>get to work, you know. But I will say this,

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<v Speaker 8>it has cleaned up a lot. The other thing is,

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<v Speaker 8>and this is probably not politically correct, but I I

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<v Speaker 8>think it's something that should be said. I first moved

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<v Speaker 8>to Portland in two thousand and one. In Portland had

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<v Speaker 8>a homeless problem because of the weather, because of the services,

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<v Speaker 8>And you're gonna tell me it took the twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 8>and twenty twenty to recognize there was a homeless problem.

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<v Speaker 8>So I think that's what bothers me. I will say

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<v Speaker 8>that I used to be someone, you know, that used

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<v Speaker 8>to walk by myself at eleven thirty twelve at night.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't do that anymore. I've curbed, you know, when

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<v Speaker 8>I feel that way when I'm in any city, I

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<v Speaker 8>think the city that And maybe this is just the

436
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<v Speaker 8>Portland and me talking. Seattle's dirty. Seattle doesn't feel the same.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, what is the statistics? I just heard they're

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<v Speaker 8>supposed to have two thousand people on their third shift,

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<v Speaker 8>and what did I hear? They might have eight hundred

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<v Speaker 8>or twelve hundred or something?

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<v Speaker 4>So police, no police.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I spoke too quickly, but you know, and I

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<v Speaker 8>think that's what bothers me is that the most is

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<v Speaker 8>that Portland's always been a very clean city, and when

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<v Speaker 8>I came back, it didn't feel as clean. It felt,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, there's a lot of tagging, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of buildings that it doesn't feel like people have taken

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<v Speaker 8>respect towards the city and the buildings. And I haven't

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<v Speaker 8>just seen that in Portland. I've seen it in Eugene.

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<v Speaker 8>I saw it in Chico, California, when I was there.

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<v Speaker 8>I saw it in Columbus, Ohio recently when I was there,

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<v Speaker 8>And it just feels like we've lost caring and feeding

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<v Speaker 8>of our cities, if that makes sense, our infrastructure. But

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<v Speaker 8>I'm biased again. I love Portland. I love being by

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<v Speaker 8>the ocean, I love being by mouth hoods. So maybe

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<v Speaker 8>I have a rosier view than what is really happening. Well,

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<v Speaker 8>and it has cleaned.

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<v Speaker 2>Up well, I hope it has for you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they've had a lot of problems in that city over

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<v Speaker 2>the years, and uh, it used to be it used

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<v Speaker 2>to be a wonderful city. But everyone who I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to has has has a similar reaction as you do, Melissa.

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<v Speaker 2>Always great to hear your voice. Thank you. So we

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<v Speaker 2>count the days down to when the when the truck

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<v Speaker 2>leaves from Fenway Park, which is always early feeblies, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's even less. That's you're right, all right, thanks, Melissa,

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<v Speaker 2>talk soon. All right, let me keep rolling. You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go to a Michael in Boston. Michael, you're next

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<v Speaker 2>on Nightsiger, righthead.

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<v Speaker 4>Michael, Hi, Dan? How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing fun?

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<v Speaker 4>How you should have told her we're four hundred short

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<v Speaker 4>on our police here in Boston too.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, oh, absolutely no. I was about to say that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I let and I let this slip at your

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<v Speaker 2>correct there's a lot of major cities that they can't

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<v Speaker 2>recruit police. Police used to be people wanted to be

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<v Speaker 2>police officers. But people don't want to be police officers anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that it or they don't want them?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that that there was a period of

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<v Speaker 2>time where a lot of police officers said I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to deal with this aggravation anymore and left. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think the word came fourth. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of young people say, I'll find another job

485
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<v Speaker 2>one it's dangerous. Uh, And you're not, don't You don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the respect that you used to have. They you

487
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<v Speaker 2>can listen to our station. They have ads now on

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<v Speaker 2>the station where they're talking about trying to get there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a whole campaign going on by the city of

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<v Speaker 2>Boston to try to recruit police officers to get people.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've never saw that before. It used to

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<v Speaker 2>be people would die and take the civil service test.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't do that anymore. It's it's as simple as

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<v Speaker 2>that's what's your taken? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of confused. I heard about this yesterday on

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<v Speaker 4>your show, and I'm thinking in New York, if you

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<v Speaker 4>have a residence in the city. We're on West fifty

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<v Speaker 4>seventh Street. Let's say, and you commute to work, you

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<v Speaker 4>work in New Jersey, and you force us to come

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<v Speaker 4>home every night? Are you an exception or are you're

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<v Speaker 4>included in that?

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<v Speaker 2>See, I have seen nothing to the effect. I have

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<v Speaker 2>seen nothing, and I've tried to read as much as

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<v Speaker 2>I could of exceptions. You know, you would think that

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<v Speaker 2>anyone who lived there. No, I can suggest that you

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<v Speaker 2>can go and look. Congestion they call it, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>This is again one of those words I love, the

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<v Speaker 2>euphemism congestion relief zone total interest. Starting January fifth, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five, which is yesterday, vehicles will be told and

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<v Speaker 2>to congestion relief zone. The toll amount will depend on

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<v Speaker 2>the type of vehicle time of day, and whether any

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<v Speaker 2>crossing credits apply. I have no idea what crossing credits

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<v Speaker 2>are and the method of payment. There were also discounts

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<v Speaker 2>and exemptions that will apply to certain drivers or vehicles

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<v Speaker 2>entering the congestion release Zone using an Easy Past New

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<v Speaker 2>York account. But it just talks about the congestion relief

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<v Speaker 2>zone includes local streets and avenues in Manhattan south of An,

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<v Speaker 2>including sixtieth Street, which is the Subwits Central Park, excluding

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<v Speaker 2>the FDR Drive, West Side Highway, Route nine A and

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<v Speaker 2>Hugh Carry Tunnel connections to West Street. But I see

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<v Speaker 2>nothing about all it talks about. Oh, discounts and exemptions.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go, discounts and exemptions. Discounts and exemption plans

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<v Speaker 2>are available for the congestion relief zone. A discount plan

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<v Speaker 2>is available for low income drivers, and exemption plans are

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<v Speaker 2>available for individuals with disabilities or organizations transporting people with disabilities,

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00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:51.119
<v Speaker 2>emergency vehicles, buses and specialized government owned vehicles. Not a

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<v Speaker 2>mention of people who live. They assume everybody is wealthy

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<v Speaker 2>enough who live there.

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<v Speaker 4>So do you think if this is done in Boston?

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<v Speaker 4>For example, I have a condo in Copley Square, and

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<v Speaker 4>I use my car very little, but when I use it,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the times I may use it, if not

533
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<v Speaker 4>to take a just to take a ride for the

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<v Speaker 4>day and then come back. But I'll take it for groceries.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll go to market Basket, which is outside of the city,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'll get groceries for myself and other people and

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<v Speaker 4>come back home. Yep, and say a fee. I guess so,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess so, yes, according to those well again you Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Boston can do it differently, but the bottom line is

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<v Speaker 2>the average. Can you imagine every person who has who

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<v Speaker 2>lives in the downtown area. If you have to have

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<v Speaker 2>an electrician or a plumber or someone come to your

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<v Speaker 2>home to do some work inside the home, that person

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00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.960
<v Speaker 2>is going to be charged an additional fee that's going

545
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<v Speaker 2>to be passed on to you. These people are insane.

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<v Speaker 2>They're absolutely insane. They want to turn Boston and New

547
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<v Speaker 2>York into places where only the uber wealthy can live.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what their goal is.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, coincidentally, I got my tax bill yesterday. Oh tell

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<v Speaker 4>me about that early tax bill which is due February first. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>it's up thirty percent over last year. They did it

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<v Speaker 4>in two increments, so it's about five hundred a quarter

553
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<v Speaker 4>more than it was a year ago. So they went

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<v Speaker 4>up to last So give it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Give it. What were you paying in real estate taxes

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00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:35.519
<v Speaker 2>in Boston last year overall?

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<v Speaker 4>Roughly uh last year or last quarter? No, last year

558
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:47.480
<v Speaker 4>last year about seven thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And what will you be this year? What will

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<v Speaker 2>you be paid?

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<v Speaker 4>This new bill is uh twenty two hundred for the quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>Times four is almost so your tax bill is going

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<v Speaker 2>to increase eighteen one hundred dollars. And you know on

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<v Speaker 2>a on the federal taxes are the tax deductions are

565
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<v Speaker 2>capped what they call the salt cap, at ten thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're gonna you know, you know, it used to

567
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<v Speaker 2>be that the amount of money that you would pay,

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00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:28.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, to the state of Massachusetts along with your

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00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:31.519
<v Speaker 2>real estate bill, uh, you know, could be taken as

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<v Speaker 2>a federal exemption. Now it's limited to ten thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it has been. But you can still take

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<v Speaker 4>the standard deduction. Thanks to Trump, that went way up.

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<v Speaker 4>So for most people it's worth taking just the standard.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't need that, that's fine, the standard that's almost

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine, you got it. You got it, Michael, I

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<v Speaker 2>let you run.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, at what point I mean the tax rate went

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<v Speaker 4>up and the assessment went up with this bill? Yep,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well keep well, just remember this. There's an election this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep it in mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, but it doesn't do any good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know something, if you continue to believe that,

585
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:18.320
<v Speaker 2>that's what they want you to believe. They want you

586
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.840
<v Speaker 2>to believe that your vote doesn't matter, so you won't vote.

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00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Your vote matters, everyone's vote.

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00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:26.400
<v Speaker 4>Your vote matters. But I think the only thing they're

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00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:30.519
<v Speaker 4>going to listen to money talks. And I'm very tempted

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<v Speaker 4>to not pay this real estate bill and put a

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00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:35.599
<v Speaker 4>letter in there. And if we all did that, we'd

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<v Speaker 4>get somewhere. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what the problem is. They might get you in

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<v Speaker 2>to court. They might get you to court. Be careful

595
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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Break.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk soon. Okay, thanks for calling. Good. We'll take

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<v Speaker 2>a quick break. Maureen is next that we got Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>and we may stay with this. At eleven, you will

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<v Speaker 2>decide and we may do something else. Coming back on

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<v Speaker 2>Night's side right after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I just got a text. Another high

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<v Speaker 2>school in Boston is being closed. A letter to the

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<v Speaker 2>Excel High School community. They will be closed. That school

607
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<v Speaker 2>will be closed. By the way, again, euphemisms given shifting circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be sure you heard the news from

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<v Speaker 2>our team. On Wednesday, January twenty second, two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 2>we will recommend next steps in implementing the long term

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<v Speaker 2>Facilities Plan to the Boston School Committee. This includes recommending

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<v Speaker 2>the closure of Excel High School at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five twenty six school year. So once again,

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<v Speaker 2>another another Boston high school closing. We understand that news

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<v Speaker 2>of closures can bring a range of emotions for students, families,

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<v Speaker 2>and staff. We also know that these steps are necessary

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<v Speaker 2>to ensure that every student has a high quality seat

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<v Speaker 2>in each of our schools with high quality options close

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<v Speaker 2>to home. Yeah, it's all going to be wonderful unless

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<v Speaker 2>you happen to be a student there. Let me go

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<v Speaker 2>to Maureene and Cambridge. I had Marene welcome next on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 9>Hi can even kenn, How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing fine? Little little wound up tonight because I

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<v Speaker 2>think the politicians think we're all stupid.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, I kind of agree with that to a

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<v Speaker 9>certain extent. I was just always feeling that as a motorist,

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<v Speaker 9>my XI tax pays for the roads, repairs, whatever else,

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<v Speaker 9>that the bike should also pay a fee for using

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<v Speaker 9>the roads if they want to use it. As I

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<v Speaker 9>agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I agree with you. But do you know how

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<v Speaker 2>much and maybe you're ware this maybe or not, do

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<v Speaker 2>you know how much Boston has spent developed putting bike

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<v Speaker 2>lanes in just Boston.

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<v Speaker 9>I heard what you were saying earlier. Was it one

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<v Speaker 9>hundred and twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot. You can keep a lot of high schools.

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<v Speaker 2>You could keep a lot of high schools open for

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<v Speaker 2>that amount of money.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, you could, you could, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>But and Cambridge is no better. I mean you have

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<v Speaker 2>bike lanes Galord Cambridge, Well.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, a lot of there's more bike lanes that are

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<v Speaker 9>taking away talking spaces for small businesses, and I know

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<v Speaker 9>that's happening in Boston as well, and it's that place

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<v Speaker 9>to park. So it's it's really it's a very difficult

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<v Speaker 9>situation which they do for the bikes, you know, for bikers.

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<v Speaker 9>But the only thing is when you throw in the

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<v Speaker 9>even the electric bikes, they go as fast as as

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<v Speaker 9>a car can.

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<v Speaker 2>And the again, as long as long as they're a bike,

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<v Speaker 2>as long as they're bikes, they're all set. It's as

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<v Speaker 2>simple as that. Yeah, I mean, but again, bikes are

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<v Speaker 2>an effective political lobby. And the politicians vow to political lobbies.

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<v Speaker 2>The only people they don't vow to are residents and voters.

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<v Speaker 2>It's as simple as that. They they assume that that

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<v Speaker 2>that you will always be like a flock of sheep

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<v Speaker 2>and vote for them, and in most cases in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what happens. So yes, anyway, good block and Cambridge

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<v Speaker 2>Marine run for city council. Over there, Come on, you

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<v Speaker 2>have you have a lot of common sense. Thanks Marin.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy New Year, you too. Gotta try to sneak to

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<v Speaker 2>in here if I can get Matt. Next, Matt, You're next,

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<v Speaker 2>night side, welcome.

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<v Speaker 10>Hey man, Right back at you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in You're in Boston, right ahead.

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<v Speaker 10>All right exactly, I'm in uh right brighton. So I

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<v Speaker 10>do have my own personal transportation, However, I personally found

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<v Speaker 10>it easier to use services like uber, Lyft.

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<v Speaker 4>Et cetera.

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<v Speaker 10>Now, while I was in Hold, I looked up in

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<v Speaker 10>New York, I looked up the gladia, and I looked

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<v Speaker 10>up the distance. Let's say to Fifth Avenue. It was

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<v Speaker 10>fifty right now, it was fifty five dollars, which is

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<v Speaker 10>a nine mile drive to do the same in Boston

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<v Speaker 10>about a nine mile drive to give or take to

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<v Speaker 10>go in Boston from Logan to Newbury Street, it was

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<v Speaker 10>twenty two dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's not and that's maybe about three miles

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<v Speaker 2>from Logan to Newbury Street.

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<v Speaker 10>It was set on it was seven miles where I

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<v Speaker 10>put in.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, you didn't see that that long?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, okay, so I guess my my point is that

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<v Speaker 10>there there there is an X like Sacks, and there

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<v Speaker 10>is absolutely how long I mean, I guess my question

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<v Speaker 10>would be how long has the mass passed? You know

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<v Speaker 10>that thing that you put on you if you don't

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<v Speaker 10>go through the tolls yourself? How long has that been in?

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<v Speaker 4>It's been long, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Easy pass for about fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 10>So I was a little kid when that came around.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I would say that the parades.

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<v Speaker 10>Of those I used to live down in Florida, and

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<v Speaker 10>when I would go through Miami, it would be four

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<v Speaker 10>dollars each time you would go through there, and I

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<v Speaker 10>thought there was in I thought there was yeah, incredible sports.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you know, it's more expensive in Boston. It's only

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<v Speaker 2>going to get more expensive when they have congestion pricing. Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to keep only want to try to get

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<v Speaker 2>one more in here before the break. Thank you was

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<v Speaker 2>always okay, talk soon, Thank you very much, Alex and

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<v Speaker 2>Millis Alice, you're gonna wrap the hour for us. What

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<v Speaker 2>can you do with about a minute.

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<v Speaker 11>And a half, Dan, I was going to say where

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<v Speaker 11>I live in Miller's here. You know, our taxes went

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<v Speaker 11>up to but I try to avoid going into Boston.

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<v Speaker 11>Even when I had to have a procedure done and

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<v Speaker 11>it was at nass General on Fruit Street, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 11>believe the amount of construction that's going on over there.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know how the people around that area function.

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<v Speaker 11>It's insane. And every time I go into Boston, when

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<v Speaker 11>if I have to go, there's a new building up,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, and the landscape has changed, and try to

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<v Speaker 11>find parking. So I avoid Boston, and it's you know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think a lot of people. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people avoid Boston, and I think more and more people

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<v Speaker 2>are going to avoid Boston because it's more difficult to

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<v Speaker 2>get into, get out of, and it's more expensive. Parking

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<v Speaker 2>meters now, a quarter get you four minutes in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you if you're pumping quarters into a parking

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<v Speaker 2>meter in Boston, you've got to be very dexterous because

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to be able to get an hour. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to fire eight meters eight what's it? No, not,

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<v Speaker 2>what's it? It's fifteen. You got fifteen quarters to get

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<v Speaker 2>an hour four minutes an hour on Commonwealth Appen, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to fire. By time you fire fifteen quarters into

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<v Speaker 2>the parking meter, you got to put a couple more

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<v Speaker 2>quarters in because it's taking you that long. It's nuts,

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<v Speaker 2>it's nuts.

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<v Speaker 11>They have apps, but still it's very expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of people aren't familiar with apps, are

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<v Speaker 2>not as comfortable with apps and as as simple as that. Hey, Alex,

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<v Speaker 2>I sure change to hear, but I got you in

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<v Speaker 2>before the eleven o'clock news.

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<v Speaker 11>Happy New Year, my friend, Happy new yea you also

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<v Speaker 2>All right, talk to you soon coming back right after

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<v Speaker 2>the eleven If you want to continue to talk about this, great,

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<v Speaker 2>If not, I'm going to change topics back on night

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<v Speaker 2>side
