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Speaker 1: What's up everyone? Welcome to That's Not Metal. We are

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your weekly rock and heavy music podcast, and this is

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an edition of Hyperblasts, our short form Get in, get out.

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Let you know everything that's gone on news wise in

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the worlds of heavy music over the last seven days

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or so. And we're gonna give you the course of

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release round up for the week as well at the end.

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So my name is Paren Haish with me across from

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me for this edition. Mark Sanderson is joining me today.

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Hello Mark, How are things up in Yonder Highlands? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Hi, Captain. Things have been windy and wet for about

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two weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's wank lovely stuff. I went to my first show

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of the year yesterday, the gear calendar starting off for me,

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and it was Cryptopsy, who were one of the kind

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of last of the big nineties death metal bands who

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I hadn't seen. I missed them Incineration last year because

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of the staging stuff, but it was something of a

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joint tour for their newest album that came out last

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year and also simultaneously the thirtieth anniversary of their most

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classic album, None So Vile, which is one of the

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most just like deliriously aggressive psychotic death metal records ever.

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And you know, I must say, like I overall like Cryptopsy,

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but the only era of the band that I truly

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love is the first couple of records with like you know,

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lord Worm on vocals and all that they have. They've

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had something of a minor comeback lately, like putting out

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some well received records for like a you know, thirty

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years whatever in death metal band, and they're decent albums,

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but they're not septic like nonso Vile is. And it's

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one of those cases where basically the entire band that

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made that record is not in the band anymore, only

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the drummer Flowmnia, which if that sounds funny to only

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have the drummer left, I can say with Kryptopsy, if

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you were going to pick one member to man the ship,

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it might as well be the drummer because he's nuts.

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But I thought, you know, a heavily nonso vile leaning

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set might as well be you know, the time for

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me to tip them off, even if you know it's

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never going to be quite the same, that the vocals

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aren't going to be quite as fucked up because it's

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not lord Worm and you know all that stuff, and

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it was a bit of saying that the album is

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like barely over half an hour long, and they played

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six out of the eight songs from it, and of

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the two that they didn't play, one of them dead

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but Dripping is like a contender for my favorite song

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of the album. So it's like trapped, but you know,

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what can you do? People were you know, popping for

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the samples that are in there, for the bass twang breakdowns,

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which were just like stupid and bone crunching. I should

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say as well. Two hundred stab Wounds were supporting, and

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it was like a completely you know, sold out show,

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and I would imagine, you know, obviously Ryptopsy pull a

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decent amount on their own, but having a kind of younger,

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buzzy a death a band with them probably helped with

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that as well. And I would say there was a

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sizeable gen Z contingent of the crowd compared to like

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some of the more necro death metal shows I go to,

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where it's all you know, grumpy geezers and leather jackets

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like me. And I think two hundred ab Wounds are

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like a pretty good band, you know, not a spectacular one.

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was so rowdy, like people were just like moshing and

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crowdsurfing and pit you know, spilling everywhere, going crazy, like

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a really animated reception for a death metal band. And

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then Kryptopsy, like those songs from Done So Vile are

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just dizzying, you know, just a fucking barrage. And at

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one point the guitarist was like playing guitar like on

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his fretting hand with throwing the horns across the threats. Yeah,

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that was awesome. So yeah, Kryptopsy kicking off my gig

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calendar for twenty twin None So Vile Indeed news today,

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we're starting off with the brit Award nominations, which I

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you anything that's you know, happens at the brit Awards

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year to year, but occasionally stuff like this pops up,

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and a few of the T and M Universe bands

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Geese as well, who you know Elliot mentioned quite heavily

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in the in the end of year stuff at the

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end of last year, but all of them are up

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for brit Awards. Sleep Token, you know, being a British Band.

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up for Best International Group, and I guess it's you know,

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you shouldn't be surprised by anything Turnstile do at this stage.

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they're a massive band now, But the brit Awards are

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like so aggressively normy. I suppose that there was something

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Speaker 2: Is? I feel so like unequipped to even think about

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the brittle, Like I don't even know what the deal

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with them is, like if it is indie bands or

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whatever they get favored or it is just like your

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cold plays and whatever. Either way, really bad ass that

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Turnstile are there, like unexpectedly cool for an institution I

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view is not worthy of my time.

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Speaker 1: Like the Bricks, yeah, very much the same. Bring Me

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the Horizon have announced that they have got a concert

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movie called Live in South Paolo, and live is an

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apparently an acronym for live immersive virtual experiment, because, as

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we know, Bringing the Horizon a very bad ass and

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very futuristic is you know, capturing their their recent tour

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specifically here obviously the day in South Paolo, because it's Brazil,

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it's fucking massive, Like any time anyone plays in Brazil,

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played to like fucking millions of people. I don't know

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what's going on. Brazilian fans just turn up in their

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you know, absolute, absolute masses. So this is of course,

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like probably the biggest show of the run. They were

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in front of fifty thousand fans in sal Paolo as

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part of the Next Gen World tour, and that is

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what is being captured and going out in cinemas. And

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you know, in the last couple of years. Obviously we

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had the Ghost one. I feel like there's quite a few,

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you know, in cinema R band concert films that have

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been coming out of Late Bring Me the Horizon on

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the Next Gender. Have you seen Bring Me the Horizon

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of Late.

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Speaker 2: Very recently. I saw them in twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, are very very recent indeed, so I you know,

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that they've been doing, and you know, I enjoyed the show.

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it what it is, the more cringe aspects of the

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show in a cinema setting, like do I need to

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see their stupid fucking like robot mascot they've got at

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the moment being like, Hello, I'm a fucking robot and

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it you know does and does his extended bits on

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a cinema screen. I don't know necessarily, but I can

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say that having seen the show, you know, in person,

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and obviously I imagine that this particular you know, South

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Paolo date of it was was bloody huge. Would you

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be interested in, you know, popping out to cinema and

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be like, oh, you know, bring me the horizon they're

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going to play. Uh, definitely played yummy on the tour,

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unfortunately for you, but you know.

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a die for you. There's a couple of the tiktoking

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ones they still did play, so that's enough. I don't know.

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a cinema things, just because I live in the middle

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of nowhere and don't access to it. I would be

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really interested because, like I say, I saw Bring Me

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the Horizon in inverness of the back of sem Paternal

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and that is such a completely alien band to who

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they are now. I would be interested in see the

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show without having to go to the tour.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, like you know, if I happened to be in

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front of a cinema that was playing it, fuck it, Yeah,

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effort into their show, especially if they're playing a stadium

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their biggest show ever. I'm sure there's spectacle to it,

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al that the track list is two inspiring, but I'm

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sure it'd be easy to get swept up on it

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if it's on the big screen like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm not in a rush to go

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and see the concert film because I'm in the opposite

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position to you of like having seen this particular show.

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see it in comfort of a you know, an armchair environment,

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and that was my way of seeing it, then sure thing.

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concert films seemingly hitting cinemas of Late You at Music.

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It starts with somehow they knew that the week that

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you were going to be on here doing the hyperatamy

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is of course the week that def Leppard come out

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of hiding to release their new music. If the thing

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I like about this is it's a single that they've

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released ahead of a Las Vegas residency, which is such

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like if the song itself did not convey a certain,

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you know, elderly vintage of Korea, the fact that it's like,

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we're gonna come and play a residency in just Las Vegas,

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which is a very you know, legacy way of doing things,

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then that really really screams it. I don't know if

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there's an album coming, but Mark, you were before I

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knew a Deaf Lepard soong had been released. You were

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on the Deaf Leopard song, So tell me about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Like, obviously the song is bad

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and it sounds horrid. The production on it is really

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really bad. I don't know, like theyn't released a record

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in twenty twenty two that didn't sound that like, it

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didn't sound great, but it didn't sound this amateur.

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Speaker 1: They've described it as saying it's got a bit more

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oomph than stuff we've been doing for a while.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. I mean, ah, sure, sure, I although

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I will say I listened to it again this morning

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while I was just I had it on in the

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background and I nodded my head and forgot what I

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was listening to and enjoyed it. But that's not that's

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not an endorsement that Mark Sanderson enjoyed a fucking deaf

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Leopard song in the background.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. I listened to it before this, and

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it just it sounds like hearing Death Leopard through like

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a smear, Like it's just like there's a weird there's

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some kind of weird, smudged quality that is between you

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and Death.

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Speaker 2: Leopards, like you're listening to where there's a pillow in

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Mirka is currently in the midst of trying to

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run for Eurovision, I think is what this is she

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is putting. She's released a single and she's put it

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forward for some Danish melodic prize. Uh and if she

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wins that thing, then she de facto I believe this.

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obviously don't know if she will win this particular you know,

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first stage of doing that. But if you was one

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Miaka and everything she stood for ten years ago, I

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can only imagine how you would be at this particular thing.

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But maybe we'll be seeing Mirka appearing on Eurovision you

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know screens very very soon. Let's get back to some

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more sensible new material. Exodus have got their first new

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song out, featuring the return of frontman Rob Dukes since

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his you know, last period in the band over fifteen

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years ago. This is from their new album, which is

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called Goliath. It's coming out in March. First album about

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five years, and they've released a song from it called

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three to one one one. As said, you know, first

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with Rob Dukes and revisiting some of the Rob Duke

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stuff lately in lieu of him, you know, coming back

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to the band. I saw them live with you know,

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Rob last year, and some of those records like shovel

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Headed kill Machine absolutely fucking goes, and like like watching

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standard than some of the others. This track, I think

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main thing checking out of notice it is going ah yeah,

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Rob Duke still sounds like an act murderer.

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it on. The rifts sound tight enough, you know, It's

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and Rob does sound like a fucking maniac, so fair

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play to him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Wild Voice always had one of those in

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the you know, the realm of thrashmat vocalists. There's kind

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of a cool breakdowny part with these like slayery wire

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feedback noises that takes over the second half. It's a

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decent track. I think also of noticed obviously the fact

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that this is ahead of them Aperial on what I

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think is one of the more kind of like more

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anticipated metal tours in the UK of like the next

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year or so, which is that big Creator run with

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you know, Creator and carcass in Nails. Exodus a part

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of that, so you know new Exos material coming if

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you are attending that particular run, which you bloody should

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because that's it's an amazing bill, isn't it. An album

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that I can get very excited about is the new

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They Traffament called Adversary Immolation. Their last album, Acts of God,

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is fucking incredible. They are to me one of the

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absolute best of the old guard death metal bands still

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in the present day, and so in terms of bands

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like that, I'm going to anticipate albums for they are

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right right up there in the upper upper league of that.

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it sounds just fucking killer in the way their last

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couple of albums has done. The intro riff is just

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like a fury and it's and it's catchy as well.

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So I mean, I would always be on board with Imlasia,

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but this essentially sounds like everything that I love, particularly

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about the last record Acts of God's is still like

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on you know, on that standard and coming still, so

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I can still be excited about this.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this rips and you know, it gets going.

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scratches a niche and then like I don't know, over

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a minute in a really really fucked up like squeaky

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riff comes in and it is so exhilarating. Immolation are brilliant,

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next one isn't as good, that's okay, you know, burns

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get older. Yeah, but that this one, I can't wait.

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This song fucking is raging. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Track of the week for sure. Sorry Death Leopard, although

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we should also say as well, Haggard Cat have announced

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a new album as well that's coming out on maybe

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eighth and this is their Like when was the last

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Haggard Cat album. It feels like it has been quite

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a few years.

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Speaker 2: Last album twenty twenty, last EP twenty one.

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We've had heck material in that time. Mark Haggard Cat,

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I think you're probably the person in the T and

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M universe who has the closest relationship with with you

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know this this camp, I suppose. So are you excited

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for a new Haggard Cat record?

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Speaker 2: Very excited. The the EP they released in twenty twenty one,

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I really loved it. Was the first time. I've always

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liked Haggard Cat, but they always lean into the sort

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of the bluesy, the fuzzed up thing that I could

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go for a bit less, but I've always enjoyed them,

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and that in twenty one and I really enjoyed this

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sort of this new track leans away from the fuzzed up,

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sort of bluesy side. It's almost more big, yeah, And

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there's a tinge of like heavy metal in sort of

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the tail of the riffs. And I think this is wicked.

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Like Matt sounds big and powerful, the guitar tone sounds

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so heavy. Tom has gone crazy on the drums, Like

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I think this is a really crazy frantic killer track.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously if it's been quite a while

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in the works at this point, hopefully this you know,

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It's coming out as said on MAYI eight, so you

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can look forward to that big live news this week.

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Most of it comes from the US side of things,

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where we can just loak over and go cooh. That's

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a big one. Case in point, Poison the Well having

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ounce headline tour in the US for their new record,

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of course, with Converge supporting them, and then also from

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date to date also an array of younger, you know,

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exciting hardcore bands like bal Mora are supporting them, and

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Spy and the Armed, which I like poison L's current

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thing of like they have actually they'd had this on

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the UK tour as well, Like they seem very actually

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on top of like the new you know generation of

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you know, kind of metallic harcore bands and stuff, and

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they actually seem like you know, they're picking you know,

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like good small new bands to go out and support them.

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But when you've got a bal Mora there, and then

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you've also got fucking Converged underneath you Jesus Christ, that's

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not fair fucking hate America. Yeah, take me there.

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Speaker 2: I deserve to see this.

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Speaker 1: For real. In Flames of and also announced a bunch

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of US shows with a support build that includes none

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other than a pond Stone, which is both really cool

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in a similar relationship of like, you know, one of

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the old guard, you know, legends of this kind of

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scene picking one of the best newer bands in that style,

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but also bold if you're a you're Inflames to go

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pick in the band that are likely, Hey, this is

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what we kind of used to do, but like, really,

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you know, a standard that we haven't necessarily been doing

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ourselves in a while. But if you are around in

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the US and you can catch upon Stone supporting in Flames,

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that's a pretty you know, perfect combination, isn't it. And

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this tour weirdly just in Texas for the moment, seemingly,

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but All Shall Perish have announced a twentieth anniversary run

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of you Know performing their their best record, The Price

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of Existence, and these Texas shows include I Declare War,

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The Tony Dancer, Tap Dance Extravaganza, and Bleeding Through and

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I saw fucking All Shall Perish performing priciately We're bleeding

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through and again just went you bastards over there. Mark.

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You saw all shar Perish on their UK run rather recently.

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Was it good?

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Speaker 2: It was wicked like they are so you know they're

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a death core band, but seeing them live, they really

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handle themselves like a death metal band. It was really sick.

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But I was a bit exhausted after dancing to Peeling

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Flesh before Irish came on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't able to make make that unfortunately, But

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if you do want some, you know, UK based live

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announcements of the last week, there are a couple that

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do stand out. I suppose one is there is a

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festival that has been announced it taking place in Lead

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called Quiet Steps Festival, and this very much seems to

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be leaning on a kind of old school emo and

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post hardcore kind of material. And their first round of

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bands that they've announced first of all, is includes I'll

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be with a bunch of bands. I don't know. I'm

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not familiar with a lot of these bands, but the

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name that jumps out on the poster is Braid. Mark.

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Braid are playing a festival in Leeds.

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Speaker 2: That's mad because I didn't even realize Braid were still

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you know, playing shows right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I never see them on anything, No.

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Speaker 2: Especially over here. I think, you know, they pop up

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in the state. The fact that this is a new

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fest of all and the headliner and you're sort of

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leading with is Braid, really paints a picture of what, yeah,

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type of thing this is. And I do think it

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is a market that hasn't really been sold to a

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lot outside of like bits and pieces at Outbreak maybe.

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So to have a whole, you know, boutique festival for

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this Emil crowd is quite exciting and like if Bred

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in the UK, I might try and go like that

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is so cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's especially large event. If

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you know, those kind of bands in your top run,

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it's not going to be too huge. But yeah, you

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are right in terms of, you know, if I can

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see it being the kind of thing that would draw

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like the real devotees of this thing, who may maybe

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when you know these kind of bands have been booked

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for Outbreak or Art Tangent or whatever, they're a little

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bit more piecemeal, I suppose, like they're mixed into a larger,

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you know, kind of pie of larger stuff. I can

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see people being like, oh man, yeah, I've got to

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really make it over there to see some of these

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bands who maybe are around very often, and then also

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get I guess with you in mind. Wolves in the

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Throne Room have announced just right now to Scottish dates

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coming over to the UK in August, with Spectral Wound

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supporting them, which are bloody good. Indeed, they're playing in

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Edinburgh and Glasgow.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I mean I've never seen Wolves in the

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Throne Room. I love Wolves in the Throne Room. I'm

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going to be there. I'm very excited.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if this means, you know, appearing

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just in August and currently only having two Scottish shows,

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and that's maybe they'll be appearing, you know, at some

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festival around that time in you know, somewhere else in

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the UK. But if you're a black metal fan and

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you're a scott then that one is for you definitely.

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And the best story of the week, of course is that,

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I mean, here's a guy who doesn't really get mentioned

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on the show very often for good reason, but Nigel

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Farrage this week, none other than was tricked on Cameo

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into paying respects and paying tribute to none other then

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recently murdered nons Ian Watkins because in the best cameo

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since Vince Neil a top fucking Eiffel Tower or whatever

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it was, who knew that he was a guy who

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would just say anything really for money. An extremely honest character,

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but a great story. Bravo to whoever duped him into

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that particular thing. Let's get some questions going, and these

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questions come from the discord for that's my patrons. If

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you want to ask questions as well, you can also

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go to the That's a Facebook group. Gallimim kicks us

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off saying was there ever a TNM award that you

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would change? In retrospect, Mark, I was curious if you

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had an answer for this.

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Speaker 2: Not too many that I like, regret regret, but there's

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a couple I look back on and think, I could

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you know? In retrospect In twenty twenty two, I gave

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best Song to Beautiful Losers from the Coheden Cambria album,

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which is a song I still adore. I love that song,

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but surely it's spill Ways, Mark, come.

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Speaker 1: On, which was my answer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember at the time you'd being like, hmm,

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not spill ways. That's interesting, you'll realizing, oh, yeah, it's

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the waste, but you know, and a similar sort of

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top dog category worst Band of the Year twenty twenty three.

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I couldn't really think of one, so I just sort of,

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for a bit of a laugh, said even sevenfold because

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I knew it would be controversial. And when after I

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announced it and I said my piece, you said I

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thought for sure it was going to be Steel Panther,

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And I was like, oh, fuck, yeah, absolutely, I could

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have ragged on that for ages.

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Speaker 1: It could have gone on the rag for that for ages. Yeah,

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I've got one definite answer for this. I mean just

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to throw you know, my eyes elsewhere. All the times

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I've given best new or Improved Band to bands who

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have then fallen apart immediately, Like, it's not that, you know,

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I couldn't have known these things at the time, so

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it's not like I got it wrong. But when I

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look back at the kind of a Wars history and

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I see back like names like Sharp Tooth and then

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even like last year CSA Space in like some of

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those categories, you do go mad like that those like

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immediately did not follow through on what you know, we

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were kind of saying it, it would I think generally

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all the things like best song of the Year, Band

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of the Year, stuff like that. Looking at my history

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at least for you know, my taste and where I

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was at with them, I think I've got most of

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them pretty spot on. Like I don't think I have

473
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,519
had many like flubs. I suppose the one that stands out,

474
00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:24,720
and I mentioned this even on the award show that

475
00:24:24,759 --> 00:24:27,160
we did you know last month, it's the one that

476
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,640
I would change is my twenty twenty three gig of

477
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,319
the year, which was the year that essentially in my

478
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,519
mind it was like a tie between Celtic Frost performing well,

479
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:39,920
you know, trip to Coom performing a Celtic Frost you

480
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,640
know the eighties theme that when they only doing more

481
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,839
details and to make a ferry on stuff at Bloodstock

482
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,759
and Depeche Mode at twickenenm And like those two they

483
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:49,759
were both for me like incredibly special shows as you

484
00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:53,799
can imagine from those you know, descriptions, and I couldn't

485
00:24:53,839 --> 00:24:55,359
choose which one to do, and I just went for

486
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,119
the trip to complaining Celtic frosting. But what then happened

487
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,400
is over then following two years, I saw Tryptocon playing

488
00:25:01,799 --> 00:25:07,519
even better shows than those things, And in hindsight, the

489
00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:11,200
depeche Mode at Twickenham show was so special, like that

490
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,200
is like it's the best stadium show I've ever been to,

491
00:25:14,319 --> 00:25:17,160
and it could be that I don't know for how long,

492
00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:20,160
and it was so like there were so many individual

493
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,480
magic moments from that, like you know, two hour whatever

494
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,279
set that they played that live on in my head

495
00:25:25,559 --> 00:25:28,839
that I didn't know what was to come with Tryptocon

496
00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:32,920
and I should like, in hindsight, depeche Mode at twicken

497
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,680
And really deserves that particular award, and Trypticon very much

498
00:25:35,759 --> 00:25:37,920
deserved the following two like Gig of the Year things

499
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,400
that I bestowed upon them. But that's the one where

500
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,160
I'm like, yeah, it should have been the depeche Mode

501
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,799
show for sure. Next question comes from David Brady, who

502
00:25:46,839 --> 00:25:49,240
asks if any of you could introduce a band you

503
00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:51,319
have gotten into in the last five years to your

504
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,279
younger self just starting on the heavy music road, who

505
00:25:54,279 --> 00:25:57,240
would it be and why. First time I read this question,

506
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,440
I was thinking about this and I didn't register within

507
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,319
the last five years bit so I was thinking just

508
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,319
bands who I love, really love, who I could maybe

509
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,279
give to myself at a slightly earliest stage, and I

510
00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:12,880
got to them and like, how would that change my

511
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,880
music stage? That these aren't bands who I've gotten into

512
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,759
with the last five years. But the thing for me,

513
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:20,240
like when I was you know, like hardcore getting into

514
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,559
like becoming you know, like heavy music being my life.

515
00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:25,240
Basically when I was like you know, between like twelve

516
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,839
and fourteen, the thing that like came to me most

517
00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:31,960
swiftly was the metal side, right, So, like I loved

518
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,559
you know, Iron Maiden and Metallica and Megadeath and all

519
00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:37,759
of this stuff. The stuff that is like this really

520
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,839
integral part of my musical identity. I suppose that took

521
00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:44,920
me longer to you know, really come to terms with

522
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,960
an explore is more of like the kind of goth

523
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:49,759
side of things. So I mean I've just mentioned them.

524
00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:52,000
I would say, like band, there's a few bands who

525
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,920
I got into, like hard got into when I was

526
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,279
maybe around like sort of like turning like twenty ish

527
00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:59,160
that if I could give myself to them when I

528
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,519
was like thirteen, I would imagine they would be an

529
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:04,920
even more like part of my DNA than they are now.

530
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,680
So bands like depeche Mode and The Cure are two

531
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,880
that really jump out that again, like hardcore got into

532
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,440
them a little bit, you know, a few years on

533
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,559
from when I was first really like, you know, my

534
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:19,279
most formative years. I suppose Similarly, like if I had

535
00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:23,240
gotten into AFI when I was like fourteen rather than

536
00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:25,480
you know a few years after that, I would probably

537
00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:29,079
be even more insufferable about them than I even am today. Similarly,

538
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,400
I think with like Nine Inch Nails past the singles,

539
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,599
like if I'd become like a Nine Inch Nails album's

540
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,480
guy when I was like thirteen fourteen, I would imagine

541
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,759
they would be even more integral than they already are.

542
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,319
I have got you know, I thought some other answers

543
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,599
based on what the question actually says, But Mark, have

544
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,559
you got responses?

545
00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: First of all, no, yeah, I the last five years

546
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,160
thing is tricky for me. So I'm sort of like

547
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,759
might involve some time travel, so like picking an album

548
00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:59,640
from twenty twenty one or whatever to give my younger self.

549
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:04,200
One thing. I really I really struggled getting into like

550
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,359
extreme metal. I was so resistant to black metal for

551
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,480
so long, and I just I look back at young

552
00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:16,559
Mark and the one like the first properly heavy band

553
00:28:16,599 --> 00:28:21,799
I ever liked was Children Abodem because I came into

554
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,559
heavy metal through loving hair metal and I've always been

555
00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:30,319
obsessed with guitar solos, so Children Abodem was very like

556
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,440
painless for me getting into that. So I'd love to

557
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:39,119
show that guy Moonlight Sorcery and don't read Hell.

558
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

559
00:28:39,519 --> 00:28:42,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that'd be a more sort of like an

560
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:47,200
avenue into extreme metal earlier than it did for me.

561
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:54,000
Maybe Rotten Christ or something. I feel like something you know, yeah, yeah.

562
00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: Christ, you know circa like you know, the early twenty

563
00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:58,759
ten stuff. If you'd heard it at the time and

564
00:28:58,759 --> 00:29:00,480
being like, oh, these are heavy metal songs, like I

565
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:02,440
can pump my fist to this, that would have worked.

566
00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. There's things that like maybe wouldn't have helped my journey,

567
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:11,240
you know, faster or whatever, but things that maybe would

568
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:15,000
maybe a little bit cooler, Like if I heard Jess

569
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,200
and the Ancient Ones at the time, maybe I would

570
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,480
have been less, you know, weird guy, like I would

571
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,359
have had slightly cooler taste. And I can't imagine myself

572
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,440
really liking Jess and the Ancient Ones back then somewlar

573
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,119
to like I'd love I wish I could go back

574
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,039
in time to like, I don't know, fourteen fifteen year

575
00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:43,799
old Mark and gift him Astronoid like I adore them now,

576
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,240
but especially the last, like the first and the fourth

577
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:53,359
Astronoid records. That's it. That's my favorite band when I'm fifteen.

578
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:55,599
You know, it's all the stuff I love and it's

579
00:29:55,599 --> 00:30:00,759
so sugary and addictive, and I don't know if it

580
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:02,599
would have been a gateway to other things, but I

581
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,920
just like, as a gift to myself, not yourself out

582
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,359
on these records, you.

583
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, because as simply as what you were saying about,

584
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,119
like you know, if if at the time you'd registered

585
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:14,799
stuff like the Devil's Blood and just in the ancient

586
00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:17,240
ones kind of happening. There's a couple of bands from

587
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,240
around the era that like I should have gone harder

588
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:23,920
on earlier, the example being like in Solitude, right, because

589
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,720
there's a few things that were happening that I feel like,

590
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,559
I like hard got into them at the time that

591
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:33,559
they were basically disappearing. You know. It's like, I would

592
00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:35,319
you know, hard get into these kind of things and

593
00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:37,559
then they'd be breaking up if I'd gotten into on Solitude,

594
00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:40,240
Like even like like an album earlier and really like

595
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:42,279
paid the attention to them, because it's one of the

596
00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:43,799
things where like, you know, Sister came out in twenty

597
00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:45,359
thirteen and then not long as like they broke up

598
00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:47,599
and sort of around you know, twenty fifteen ish or whatever,

599
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:49,119
I was like, oh my god, this is a masterpiece.

600
00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:51,319
What the hell? Yeah, And I look back and I'm like,

601
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:54,000
I missed this, you know, phenomenon happening by like just

602
00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:56,079
a year or two. You know, it's like I should

603
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:59,160
have gone harder, slightly earlier. The time travel thing that

604
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,799
you're talking about, I think really good picks that you've

605
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:02,839
gone there in terms of taking albums from like now

606
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,880
basically and give them to your younger self. I wasn't

607
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,079
thinking about that because I was thinking, it has to

608
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,119
be something that's you know, bands I've gotten into with

609
00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:12,039
in the last five years or so, yeah, but have

610
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,839
to have kind of been around at the time where

611
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,160
I could have gotten into them at you know, an

612
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,160
earlier age, and there's not that many of them because

613
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,640
most of the really big important bands. Again, my best

614
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,240
answer to this were stuff like The Cure or whatever,

615
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,319
which I got into, like not necessarily at the beginning

616
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:29,319
of my teenage years, but like at the end of them,

617
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:31,200
I guess, you know, maybe some of like the classic

618
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,119
hardcore stuff in the last few years that I've liked,

619
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:35,279
stuff like carry On or whatever. It's like that would

620
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:36,960
have been cool to have when I was like fourteen.

621
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:39,680
And the answer I came to there is maybe Coxbarrough,

622
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,960
like maybe I would try and then because that could

623
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,519
also then lead me onto like you know, battle ruins

624
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:45,839
and these other things that I've also kind of become

625
00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:47,759
obsessed with. Like if I tried to jump start myself

626
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:50,319
on the OI side of things a little bit earlier

627
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,759
in my development, maybe I would be even more you

628
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:55,440
know again kind of immersed in that world then I,

629
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,200
you know, I want to be, So I think that's

630
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,839
an all right answer. Jack Theory asks any examples of

631
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:04,000
a band you've always been aware of dropping an album

632
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:06,640
very late in their career that finally makes some click

633
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,480
for you. An example for me is the record The

634
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:11,640
Acacia Strain dropped last year. I'd always respected them, but

635
00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:17,839
never counted them amongst my most favorite exciting bands until now. Yeah. Again,

636
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,039
there's a certain I'll try to discount sort of ageing

637
00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:24,559
that there's me like hearing of bands on random late

638
00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:26,759
albums for the first time, like I got I got

639
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:29,559
into the in the mid twenty tens. I got into

640
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:31,799
bands like on the Earth Crisis or Integrity or whatever,

641
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:33,680
just based on like the albums. It was like the

642
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,519
first time I'd heard of them. You know. I guess

643
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:38,359
this question is again, bands who you just like, you know,

644
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:41,440
were I don't know if resistant is too strong a word,

645
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,200
but you know, bands that you weren't necessarily hard into

646
00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:45,440
who suddenly put an album where you go, oh, this

647
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:45,880
is the one.

648
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I have a track record of like hearing

649
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:51,599
every album.

650
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: You've got more answer for this than me, I think.

651
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the big one is the Black Dahlia Murder. Who Yeah,

652
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,519
that was it. Yeah, not that I disliked them. I

653
00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:06,480
was just like, oh, yeah, they're fine whatever. I heard

654
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,079
every album from Ever Black onwards because I was friends

655
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:12,799
with you, so I had to hear them, and I

656
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:16,480
don't know what it is verminous in twenty twenty, I

657
00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:18,440
heard that one. Then suddenly I was like, oh yeah,

658
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,799
the oh yeah, the Black dilar Murder are great. Yeah,

659
00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:24,039
I get it now, Like when I go back to

660
00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:26,680
that album, it's not one of my favorite Black Dalio Records.

661
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,599
I don't know what it was that I just like,

662
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:33,599
I don't know, I have lockdown brain maybe and finally

663
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,200
it clicked.

664
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,799
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, well, sometimes you yourself just are you know,

665
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,559
you have developed to a point where you something arrives

666
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:41,359
and it's not It doesn't really matter if it's now

667
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,920
the band's like, you know, signature album or not. It's

668
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,759
just you have arrived at the point where they are

669
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:49,759
going to to click for you. I don't have like

670
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,599
as definitive an answer in terms of like exactly the

671
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,119
you know, striculations of the question here, but uh, Weezer's

672
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,519
White Album was a was a big one for me,

673
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,079
and I yes, I'd been kind of aware of Weezer

674
00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:04,319
for like a couple of years by that point, because,

675
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:07,720
like I said, you know on the previous question, the

676
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:09,400
first thing that I really got hard into when I

677
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,480
was like thirteen was you know, the more the metal

678
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:14,760
side a band like Wesa were not you know, immediately

679
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,239
in the queue for me, I remember when you know

680
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,960
everything will be all right in the end came out

681
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,159
in twenty fourteen. That's when I started to kind of

682
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:24,119
become aware of Weezer, and like I heard a couple

683
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:26,119
of tracks from that and stuff, but maybe my again,

684
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:28,599
my teenage brain had not quite separated them from Whetas

685
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,159
or whatever at that point. Yeah. But then when the

686
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:33,800
White album came out, I was like, Okay, I'm absolutely

687
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,599
in right, because how could you not be. And that's

688
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:37,840
definitely like, you know, a late career album from a

689
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,480
band that essentially made me become a massive fan of

690
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,519
like the band's overall catalog.

691
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember seeing that in You and being really

692
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:53,239
really proud, somewhat like similar to my Black Dali thing.

693
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,960
Why is the most recent pop album the one I

694
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,559
got in on.

695
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: Most recent point? Exactly? Yeah, it does happen for you

696
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:03,119
a lot.

697
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't know. I'm an interesting guy. I've

698
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:14,920
got an interesting zone. Good questions, guys, Thanks very much Patreon.

699
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:17,400
This week is a big week for us because we

700
00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:20,800
started up the specials for twenty twenty six over for

701
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:23,000
those of you who are kind enough to you know,

702
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,199
continue supporting the show over at the Patreon. We started

703
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,360
with the first part of our first special for the year, which,

704
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,480
as I announced on a previous hyperblasts, is a year

705
00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:35,320
in review special on the In nineteen ninety seven, we

706
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,639
have in the last week knocked out the first chapter

707
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:41,719
of this in which we looked at I would say

708
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,679
the mainstream of heavy, Some of it wasn't the mainstream

709
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,079
of heavy, So I guess what I just mean is

710
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:49,360
maybe slightly more accessible forms of metal, because you know,

711
00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:51,840
new metal and fucking power metal were not in the

712
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,280
same place in ninety seven. But we looked at them

713
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,440
both and let me tell you actually fascinating years for both.

714
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,039
You know, the as said, the top layer of what

715
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:05,239
you immediately know was big in ninety seven, what was popping,

716
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:13,639
but also surprising genre periods of you know, fruitfulness, of resurgence, whatever.

717
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,519
In this first part it was a way ale. Other

718
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:18,679
time we started with the new metal stuff, we went

719
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,239
through all of the you know, the late nineties metal

720
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,599
as you would imagine it to be around nineteen ninety seven.

721
00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:25,320
But then I said, we also looked at, like, what

722
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,400
were all the old heavy metal bands doing, like real

723
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:31,239
mixed successes, some of them doing surprisingly well, many of

724
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,480
them not Looking at what the thrash bands were doing

725
00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:36,920
spoiler not really making thrash metal, but that results in

726
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,000
a whole variety of like different sounds that they were

727
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:44,320
going for going through again what is a surprisingly key

728
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,880
point in the timeline of power and kind of symphonic metal,

729
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,760
and then a fucking bounty of hardcore records as well,

730
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,679
and the four of us from that Starle Metal going

731
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,800
through all that gaunt of albums, we had disagreements, which

732
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,400
some of which you know, were really like out of

733
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,880
nowhere and like, what do you mean this is the thing.

734
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,239
I didn't expect this to be the thing that we

735
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,000
were going to disagree on one mad disagreement.

736
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:10,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then also, if you know, again, if you've

737
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:13,599
been a long time listener, certain ongoing conversations we've had

738
00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:18,039
being i'd say resolved in very gratifying ways across it

739
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:20,639
as well. There is more to come on the nineteen

740
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:23,519
ninety seven special different areas of the t and musical

741
00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:26,239
spectrum that we haven't got to yet. But yeah, it

742
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,800
was a fruitful time going through this first layer of

743
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:31,480
what was happening.

744
00:37:31,639 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was a blast. And I just want

745
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,280
to urge everyone to listen to re Manufacture.

746
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: Five times in a week if possible.

747
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: If possible, you know, four is fine if you can't

748
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:50,079
manage five. I I've loved hearing all the since from

749
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:53,119
nineteen ninety seven. It's just been scratching my brain.

750
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: That's my main take this, all of the funk bits.

751
00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:00,360
You never could have imagined how many funk bits would

752
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,679
turn up in any that something else special until you

753
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:04,639
get to looking at the year nineteen ninety seven.

754
00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 2: It was a good year. You picked well, you looked

755
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,199
at you forensic, you were looking at the nineties trying

756
00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:14,159
to pinpoint the funkiest point in history, and you nail the.

757
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: Absolutely. So if you want to hear that a very

758
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,159
very fun time looking at, you know, a year of

759
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,800
your then patron dot com slash. That's not that supposed

760
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,920
to be. As said, we'll be following up that, you know,

761
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,119
that part with the further parts of that special as

762
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:31,880
soon as we can. Let's end this hyperblast with releases

763
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,800
for today, the twenty third of January. The top release

764
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,000
of this week is what else could it be? It's

765
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:43,760
the final album from Titans Megadeth self titled album Right

766
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:46,800
Love Them or Hate Them? They have given us so

767
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,719
much and it is a real mode of significance to

768
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,760
be receiving the final album ever from one of the

769
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,280
most pivotal integral metal albums of all time. Obviously next

770
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,760
week on That's Not Metal is going to be our

771
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,840
review show for January, and of course where else can

772
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,239
we start? But the final Megadeth album. So many many

773
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,440
further thoughts on that to come, but it's out, the

774
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:13,639
last Megadeth album ever. Also, Poppy has got her you

775
00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:16,039
know latest in her run of you know Jordan Fish

776
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:19,599
produced metal core albums. I suppose Empty Hands is out

777
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,760
similarly on the metal core track. Japanese metal core band

778
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,440
Crystal Lake who I think they have not had an

779
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,199
album in like six or seven years or something. It's

780
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,280
been a while from them, but they've got an album

781
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,000
called The Weight of Sound. Mark Japanese metalcore Ficieronado at All.

782
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: I remember them from like ten years ago. I think

783
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,039
I saw them support and Cross Faith or something once.

784
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:42,920
So long.

785
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they are back with again a new album

786
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:48,400
called The Weight of Sound. And speaking of people who

787
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,039
are back for a first album in a while, Textures,

788
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:57,840
the progressive you know tech metal band like absolutely Central

789
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,599
tech fest band, right, Textures are back with their first

790
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:03,480
happened about ten years because they broke up for a while,

791
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,400
called Genotype.

792
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,559
Speaker 2: My God, that title is straight from twenty twelve, Like

793
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,480
they haven't all they're the exact same.

794
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, old school British punk legends. The Damned have got

795
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,920
I don't know how many albums at this point, but

796
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,239
they've got a new one out called Not Like Everybody Else.

797
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:25,320
This could be an interesting one. Back in Greenland have

798
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,159
a self titled album, which is a new band like

799
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,480
very very kind of quick to be put together featuring

800
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:34,960
ex members have refused doing you know, whatever they are

801
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,400
interested in doing immediately off the back of refused not

802
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:40,760
being a band. So if you want to hear the first,

803
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,000
you know, musical offerings from some of those guys, then

804
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,079
that self tattled record from that band is out back

805
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:49,760
in Greenland and a couple of more underground heavy metal picks.

806
00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:53,280
There's a band called Barbarian from Italy with an album

807
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,920
called Reek of God. And this is you know, like

808
00:40:56,079 --> 00:41:00,880
just self described basically maniac heavy metal is a It's

809
00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:03,400
an early contender for one of the best cover arts

810
00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:05,639
of twenty twenty six. It looks like a fucking like

811
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:11,559
Warcraft three orc or something decapitating a crusader, which is

812
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:14,679
great and I would encourage people just listen to the Know.

813
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,000
If nothing else, just listen to the thirty second intro

814
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:20,039
track from this album. Because I was checking things out,

815
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:22,760
put that on and went, well, okay, that's it got

816
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,280
my attention of how to start an album and the

817
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,159
band legation. I've got an album called After God's which

818
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:31,920
is a you know, underground you know, slightly more avant

819
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,480
gard leaning death metal pick very much leaning over into

820
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:36,440
worlds of kind of noise and even a bit of

821
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,320
industrial metal. Like if you want to hear like noisy

822
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,599
god flesh style death metal, I suppose then that is

823
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:44,760
an offering out there to you in the world. So

824
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:47,079
that's what we got for today. Thank you very much

825
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,800
for listening. As said, next week here next Friday on

826
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,519
That's notmel It's a you know, it's a big episode

827
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:56,360
for us because it's our first reviews bag of the year.

828
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,199
We're going to be talking about new Mega Death, We're

829
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,199
going to be talking about New Creator as well well

830
00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:03,159
some more you know TNM staple bands in the mix

831
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,840
as well. The first highlights I suppose of the year

832
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,440
will be found in that reviews bag. And if you

833
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,239
can't wait until then, then you can go and hear

834
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,639
the first part of our nineteen ninety seven retrospective special

835
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,000
over on the Patreon, so we will see you there

836
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,760
for those things. Bye bye

