Speaker 1: What's up everyone? Welcome to That's Not Metal. We are
your weekly rock and heavy music podcast, and this is
an edition of Hyperblasts, our short form Get in, get out.
Let you know everything that's gone on news wise in
the worlds of heavy music over the last seven days
or so. And we're gonna give you the course of
release round up for the week as well at the end.
So my name is Paren Haish with me across from
me for this edition. Mark Sanderson is joining me today.
Hello Mark, How are things up in Yonder Highlands? Oh?
Speaker 2: Hi, Captain. Things have been windy and wet for about
two weeks.
Speaker 1: It's wank lovely stuff. I went to my first show
of the year yesterday, the gear calendar starting off for me,
and it was Cryptopsy, who were one of the kind
of last of the big nineties death metal bands who
I hadn't seen. I missed them Incineration last year because
of the staging stuff, but it was something of a
joint tour for their newest album that came out last
year and also simultaneously the thirtieth anniversary of their most
classic album, None So Vile, which is one of the
most just like deliriously aggressive psychotic death metal records ever.
And you know, I must say, like I overall like Cryptopsy,
but the only era of the band that I truly
love is the first couple of records with like you know,
lord Worm on vocals and all that they have. They've
had something of a minor comeback lately, like putting out
some well received records for like a you know, thirty
years whatever in death metal band, and they're decent albums,
but they're not septic like nonso Vile is. And it's
one of those cases where basically the entire band that
made that record is not in the band anymore, only
the drummer Flowmnia, which if that sounds funny to only
have the drummer left, I can say with Kryptopsy, if
you were going to pick one member to man the ship,
it might as well be the drummer because he's nuts.
But I thought, you know, a heavily nonso vile leaning
set might as well be you know, the time for
me to tip them off, even if you know it's
never going to be quite the same, that the vocals
aren't going to be quite as fucked up because it's
not lord Worm and you know all that stuff, and
it was a bit of saying that the album is
like barely over half an hour long, and they played
six out of the eight songs from it, and of
the two that they didn't play, one of them dead
but Dripping is like a contender for my favorite song
of the album. So it's like trapped, but you know,
what can you do? People were you know, popping for
the samples that are in there, for the bass twang breakdowns,
which were just like stupid and bone crunching. I should
say as well. Two hundred stab Wounds were supporting, and
it was like a completely you know, sold out show,
and I would imagine, you know, obviously Ryptopsy pull a
decent amount on their own, but having a kind of younger,
buzzy a death a band with them probably helped with
that as well. And I would say there was a
sizeable gen Z contingent of the crowd compared to like
some of the more necro death metal shows I go to,
where it's all you know, grumpy geezers and leather jackets
like me. And I think two hundred ab Wounds are
like a pretty good band, you know, not a spectacular one.
They're just a rock solid death metal band, but it
was so rowdy, like people were just like moshing and
crowdsurfing and pit you know, spilling everywhere, going crazy, like
a really animated reception for a death metal band. And
then Kryptopsy, like those songs from Done So Vile are
just dizzying, you know, just a fucking barrage. And at
one point the guitarist was like playing guitar like on
his fretting hand with throwing the horns across the threats. Yeah,
that was awesome. So yeah, Kryptopsy kicking off my gig
calendar for twenty twin None So Vile Indeed news today,
we're starting off with the brit Award nominations, which I
you know, gun to my head, I could not tell
you anything that's you know, happens at the brit Awards
year to year, but occasionally stuff like this pops up,
and a few of the T and M Universe bands
have been nominated for this year, Turnstile, Sleep Token and
Geese as well, who you know Elliot mentioned quite heavily
in the in the end of year stuff at the
end of last year, but all of them are up
for brit Awards. Sleep Token, you know, being a British Band.
They are up for you know, Best Group. Turnstile are
up for Best International Group, and I guess it's you know,
you shouldn't be surprised by anything Turnstile do at this stage.
I'm normally not surprised when Turnstile do something massive because
they're a massive band now, But the brit Awards are
like so aggressively normy. I suppose that there was something
about that where I was like, what do you mean
Turnstyle are up for a brit Awards?
Speaker 2: Is? I feel so like unequipped to even think about
the brittle, Like I don't even know what the deal
with them is, like if it is indie bands or
whatever they get favored or it is just like your
cold plays and whatever. Either way, really bad ass that
Turnstile are there, like unexpectedly cool for an institution I
view is not worthy of my time.
Speaker 1: Like the Bricks, yeah, very much the same. Bring Me
the Horizon have announced that they have got a concert
movie called Live in South Paolo, and live is an
apparently an acronym for live immersive virtual experiment, because, as
we know, Bringing the Horizon a very bad ass and
very futuristic is you know, capturing their their recent tour
specifically here obviously the day in South Paolo, because it's Brazil,
it's fucking massive, Like any time anyone plays in Brazil,
Like there was a Lady Gaga show recently where she
played to like fucking millions of people. I don't know
what's going on. Brazilian fans just turn up in their
you know, absolute, absolute masses. So this is of course,
like probably the biggest show of the run. They were
in front of fifty thousand fans in sal Paolo as
part of the Next Gen World tour, and that is
what is being captured and going out in cinemas. And
I feel like, you know, maybe it's a more recent trend,
you know, in the last couple of years. Obviously we
had the Ghost one. I feel like there's quite a few,
you know, in cinema R band concert films that have
been coming out of Late Bring Me the Horizon on
the Next Gender. Have you seen Bring Me the Horizon
of Late.
Speaker 2: Very recently. I saw them in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, are very very recent indeed, so I you know,
I saw, you know, part of the Next Gen tour
that they've been doing, and you know, I enjoyed the show.
I do think some of the more let's just call
it what it is, the more cringe aspects of the
show in a cinema setting, like do I need to
see their stupid fucking like robot mascot they've got at
the moment being like, Hello, I'm a fucking robot and
I want to watch you all go fucking crazy as
it you know does and does his extended bits on
a cinema screen. I don't know necessarily, but I can
say that having seen the show, you know, in person,
and obviously I imagine that this particular you know, South
Paolo date of it was was bloody huge. Would you
be interested in, you know, popping out to cinema and
be like, oh, you know, bring me the horizon they're
going to play. Uh, definitely played yummy on the tour,
unfortunately for you, but you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did look at the track list looking for
a die for you. There's a couple of the tiktoking
ones they still did play, so that's enough. I don't know.
I've never gone for one of these live concert in
a cinema things, just because I live in the middle
of nowhere and don't access to it. I would be
really interested because, like I say, I saw Bring Me
the Horizon in inverness of the back of sem Paternal
and that is such a completely alien band to who
they are now. I would be interested in see the
show without having to go to the tour.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, like you know, if I happened to be in
front of a cinema that was playing it, fuck it, Yeah,
I'd love to. I imagine they put a lot of
effort into their show, especially if they're playing a stadium
their biggest show ever. I'm sure there's spectacle to it,
al that the track list is two inspiring, but I'm
sure it'd be easy to get swept up on it
if it's on the big screen like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm not in a rush to go
and see the concert film because I'm in the opposite
position to you of like having seen this particular show.
But you know, if I again, I needed to, you know,
see it in comfort of a you know, an armchair environment,
and that was my way of seeing it, then sure thing.
But yeah, like I said, more and more of these
concert films seemingly hitting cinemas of Late You at Music.
It starts with somehow they knew that the week that
you were going to be on here doing the hyperatamy
is of course the week that def Leppard come out
of hiding to release their new music. If the thing
I like about this is it's a single that they've
released ahead of a Las Vegas residency, which is such
like if the song itself did not convey a certain,
you know, elderly vintage of Korea, the fact that it's like,
we're gonna come and play a residency in just Las Vegas,
which is a very you know, legacy way of doing things,
then that really really screams it. I don't know if
there's an album coming, but Mark, you were before I
knew a Deaf Lepard soong had been released. You were
on the Deaf Leopard song, So tell me about it.
For a start, it is called Rejoice, so were we.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Like, obviously the song is bad
and it sounds horrid. The production on it is really
really bad. I don't know, like theyn't released a record
in twenty twenty two that didn't sound that like, it
didn't sound great, but it didn't sound this amateur.
Speaker 1: They've described it as saying it's got a bit more
oomph than stuff we've been doing for a while.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I mean, ah, sure, sure, I although
I will say I listened to it again this morning
while I was just I had it on in the
background and I nodded my head and forgot what I
was listening to and enjoyed it. But that's not that's
not an endorsement that Mark Sanderson enjoyed a fucking deaf
Leopard song in the background.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. I listened to it before this, and
it just it sounds like hearing Death Leopard through like
a smear, Like it's just like there's a weird there's
some kind of weird, smudged quality that is between you
and Death.
Speaker 2: Leopards, like you're listening to where there's a pillow in
front of the speaker or something, you know what I mean.
There's just something dampening the sound of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Mirka is currently in the midst of trying to
run for Eurovision, I think is what this is she
is putting. She's released a single and she's put it
forward for some Danish melodic prize. Uh and if she
wins that thing, then she de facto I believe this.
How it works, becomes dead Ox Eurovision contestant, which you know,
obviously don't know if she will win this particular you know,
first stage of doing that. But if you was one
of those you know, black little fans who was hating
Miaka and everything she stood for ten years ago, I
can only imagine how you would be at this particular thing.
But maybe we'll be seeing Mirka appearing on Eurovision you
know screens very very soon. Let's get back to some
more sensible new material. Exodus have got their first new
song out, featuring the return of frontman Rob Dukes since
his you know, last period in the band over fifteen
years ago. This is from their new album, which is
called Goliath. It's coming out in March. First album about
five years, and they've released a song from it called
three to one one one. As said, you know, first
with Rob Dukes and revisiting some of the Rob Duke
stuff lately in lieu of him, you know, coming back
to the band. I saw them live with you know,
Rob last year, and some of those records like shovel
Headed kill Machine absolutely fucking goes, and like like watching
them playing like death Anthetamine and stuff. I mean, like
the riffs on this are nuts so and like, yeah,
that was now, you know, over twenty years ago, and
you know, many thrash bands had their really returned to
form records in the two thousands and then have kind
of gone off it. I think the last Extrace album
from twenty twenty one is like, you know, pretty good.
They're still upper, you know, standard in the scheme of things,
but it was maybe a more forgettable one by their
standard than some of the others. This track, I think
the song itself is essentially of that standard, but the
main thing checking out of notice it is going ah yeah,
Rob Duke still sounds like an act murderer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very fun, it's very listenable. I liked having
it on. The rifts sound tight enough, you know, It's
it's a pretty good latter day career thrash song, you know,
and Rob does sound like a fucking maniac, so fair
play to him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Wild Voice always had one of those in
the you know, the realm of thrashmat vocalists. There's kind
of a cool breakdowny part with these like slayery wire
feedback noises that takes over the second half. It's a
decent track. I think also of noticed obviously the fact
that this is ahead of them Aperial on what I
think is one of the more kind of like more
anticipated metal tours in the UK of like the next
year or so, which is that big Creator run with
you know, Creator and carcass in Nails. Exodus a part
of that, so you know new Exos material coming if
you are attending that particular run, which you bloody should
because that's it's an amazing bill, isn't it. An album
that I can get very excited about is the new
Immolation record, which is called Descent, is out April tenth.
They Traffament called Adversary Immolation. Their last album, Acts of God,
is fucking incredible. They are to me one of the
absolute best of the old guard death metal bands still
in the present day, and so in terms of bands
like that, I'm going to anticipate albums for they are
right right up there in the upper upper league of that.
And this track is crushing. It's really well produced, like
it sounds just fucking killer in the way their last
couple of albums has done. The intro riff is just
like a fury and it's and it's catchy as well.
So I mean, I would always be on board with Imlasia,
but this essentially sounds like everything that I love, particularly
about the last record Acts of God's is still like
on you know, on that standard and coming still, so
I can still be excited about this.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this rips and you know, it gets going.
It's really fast and furious, and you're like, oh yeah,
this hits a really nice death metal itch. It really
scratches a niche and then like I don't know, over
a minute in a really really fucked up like squeaky
riff comes in and it is so exhilarating. Immolation are brilliant,
Like I don't know, not that I doubted them, but
I did. Sometimes when bands have really great late career records,
I do assign myself sort of to like, if the
next one isn't as good, that's okay, you know, burns
get older. Yeah, but that this one, I can't wait.
This song fucking is raging. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Track of the week for sure. Sorry Death Leopard, although
we should also say as well, Haggard Cat have announced
a new album as well that's coming out on maybe
eighth and this is their Like when was the last
Haggard Cat album. It feels like it has been quite
a few years.
Speaker 2: Last album twenty twenty, last EP twenty one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they have been off grid for a little one.
We've had heck material in that time. Mark Haggard Cat,
I think you're probably the person in the T and
M universe who has the closest relationship with with you
know this this camp, I suppose. So are you excited
for a new Haggard Cat record?
Speaker 2: Very excited. The the EP they released in twenty twenty one,
I really loved it. Was the first time. I've always
liked Haggard Cat, but they always lean into the sort
of the bluesy, the fuzzed up thing that I could
go for a bit less, but I've always enjoyed them,
and that in twenty one and I really enjoyed this
sort of this new track leans away from the fuzzed up,
sort of bluesy side. It's almost more big, yeah, And
there's a tinge of like heavy metal in sort of
the tail of the riffs. And I think this is wicked.
Like Matt sounds big and powerful, the guitar tone sounds
so heavy. Tom has gone crazy on the drums, Like
I think this is a really crazy frantic killer track.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously if it's been quite a while
in the works at this point, hopefully this you know,
the new Haggacat record has got some good stuff going on.
It's coming out as said on MAYI eight, so you
can look forward to that big live news this week.
Most of it comes from the US side of things,
where we can just loak over and go cooh. That's
a big one. Case in point, Poison the Well having
ounce headline tour in the US for their new record,
of course, with Converge supporting them, and then also from
date to date also an array of younger, you know,
exciting hardcore bands like bal Mora are supporting them, and
Spy and the Armed, which I like poison L's current
thing of like they have actually they'd had this on
the UK tour as well, Like they seem very actually
on top of like the new you know generation of
you know, kind of metallic harcore bands and stuff, and
they actually seem like you know, they're picking you know,
like good small new bands to go out and support them.
But when you've got a bal Mora there, and then
you've also got fucking Converged underneath you Jesus Christ, that's
not fair fucking hate America. Yeah, take me there.
Speaker 2: I deserve to see this.
Speaker 1: For real. In Flames of and also announced a bunch
of US shows with a support build that includes none
other than a pond Stone, which is both really cool
in a similar relationship of like, you know, one of
the old guard, you know, legends of this kind of
scene picking one of the best newer bands in that style,
but also bold if you're a you're Inflames to go
pick in the band that are likely, Hey, this is
what we kind of used to do, but like, really,
you know, a standard that we haven't necessarily been doing
ourselves in a while. But if you are around in
the US and you can catch upon Stone supporting in Flames,
that's a pretty you know, perfect combination, isn't it. And
this tour weirdly just in Texas for the moment, seemingly,
but All Shall Perish have announced a twentieth anniversary run
of you Know performing their their best record, The Price
of Existence, and these Texas shows include I Declare War,
The Tony Dancer, Tap Dance Extravaganza, and Bleeding Through and
I saw fucking All Shall Perish performing priciately We're bleeding
through and again just went you bastards over there. Mark.
You saw all shar Perish on their UK run rather recently.
Was it good?
Speaker 2: It was wicked like they are so you know they're
a death core band, but seeing them live, they really
handle themselves like a death metal band. It was really sick.
But I was a bit exhausted after dancing to Peeling
Flesh before Irish came on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't able to make make that unfortunately, But
if you do want some, you know, UK based live
announcements of the last week, there are a couple that
do stand out. I suppose one is there is a
festival that has been announced it taking place in Lead
called Quiet Steps Festival, and this very much seems to
be leaning on a kind of old school emo and
post hardcore kind of material. And their first round of
bands that they've announced first of all, is includes I'll
be with a bunch of bands. I don't know. I'm
not familiar with a lot of these bands, but the
name that jumps out on the poster is Braid. Mark.
Braid are playing a festival in Leeds.
Speaker 2: That's mad because I didn't even realize Braid were still
you know, playing shows right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never see them on anything, No.
Speaker 2: Especially over here. I think, you know, they pop up
in the state. The fact that this is a new
fest of all and the headliner and you're sort of
leading with is Braid, really paints a picture of what, yeah,
type of thing this is. And I do think it
is a market that hasn't really been sold to a
lot outside of like bits and pieces at Outbreak maybe.
So to have a whole, you know, boutique festival for
this Emil crowd is quite exciting and like if Bred
in the UK, I might try and go like that
is so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's especially large event. If
you know, those kind of bands in your top run,
it's not going to be too huge. But yeah, you
are right in terms of, you know, if I can
see it being the kind of thing that would draw
like the real devotees of this thing, who may maybe
when you know these kind of bands have been booked
for Outbreak or Art Tangent or whatever, they're a little
bit more piecemeal, I suppose, like they're mixed into a larger,
you know, kind of pie of larger stuff. I can
see people being like, oh man, yeah, I've got to
really make it over there to see some of these
bands who maybe are around very often, and then also
get I guess with you in mind. Wolves in the
Throne Room have announced just right now to Scottish dates
coming over to the UK in August, with Spectral Wound
supporting them, which are bloody good. Indeed, they're playing in
Edinburgh and Glasgow.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I mean I've never seen Wolves in the
Throne Room. I love Wolves in the Throne Room. I'm
going to be there. I'm very excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if this means, you know, appearing
just in August and currently only having two Scottish shows,
and that's maybe they'll be appearing, you know, at some
festival around that time in you know, somewhere else in
the UK. But if you're a black metal fan and
you're a scott then that one is for you definitely.
And the best story of the week, of course is that,
I mean, here's a guy who doesn't really get mentioned
on the show very often for good reason, but Nigel
Farrage this week, none other than was tricked on Cameo
into paying respects and paying tribute to none other then
recently murdered nons Ian Watkins because in the best cameo
since Vince Neil a top fucking Eiffel Tower or whatever
it was, who knew that he was a guy who
would just say anything really for money. An extremely honest character,
but a great story. Bravo to whoever duped him into
that particular thing. Let's get some questions going, and these
questions come from the discord for that's my patrons. If
you want to ask questions as well, you can also
go to the That's a Facebook group. Gallimim kicks us
off saying was there ever a TNM award that you
would change? In retrospect, Mark, I was curious if you
had an answer for this.
Speaker 2: Not too many that I like, regret regret, but there's
a couple I look back on and think, I could
you know? In retrospect In twenty twenty two, I gave
best Song to Beautiful Losers from the Coheden Cambria album,
which is a song I still adore. I love that song,
but surely it's spill Ways, Mark, come.
Speaker 1: On, which was my answer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember at the time you'd being like, hmm,
not spill ways. That's interesting, you'll realizing, oh, yeah, it's
the waste, but you know, and a similar sort of
top dog category worst Band of the Year twenty twenty three.
I couldn't really think of one, so I just sort of,
for a bit of a laugh, said even sevenfold because
I knew it would be controversial. And when after I
announced it and I said my piece, you said I
thought for sure it was going to be Steel Panther,
And I was like, oh, fuck, yeah, absolutely, I could
have ragged on that for ages.
Speaker 1: It could have gone on the rag for that for ages. Yeah,
I've got one definite answer for this. I mean just
to throw you know, my eyes elsewhere. All the times
I've given best new or Improved Band to bands who
have then fallen apart immediately, Like, it's not that, you know,
I couldn't have known these things at the time, so
it's not like I got it wrong. But when I
look back at the kind of a Wars history and
I see back like names like Sharp Tooth and then
even like last year CSA Space in like some of
those categories, you do go mad like that those like
immediately did not follow through on what you know, we
were kind of saying it, it would I think generally
all the things like best song of the Year, Band
of the Year, stuff like that. Looking at my history
at least for you know, my taste and where I
was at with them, I think I've got most of
them pretty spot on. Like I don't think I have
had many like flubs. I suppose the one that stands out,
and I mentioned this even on the award show that
we did you know last month, it's the one that
I would change is my twenty twenty three gig of
the year, which was the year that essentially in my
mind it was like a tie between Celtic Frost performing well,
you know, trip to Coom performing a Celtic Frost you
know the eighties theme that when they only doing more
details and to make a ferry on stuff at Bloodstock
and Depeche Mode at twickenenm And like those two they
were both for me like incredibly special shows as you
can imagine from those you know, descriptions, and I couldn't
choose which one to do, and I just went for
the trip to complaining Celtic frosting. But what then happened
is over then following two years, I saw Tryptocon playing
even better shows than those things, And in hindsight, the
depeche Mode at Twickenham show was so special, like that
is like it's the best stadium show I've ever been to,
and it could be that I don't know for how long,
and it was so like there were so many individual
magic moments from that, like you know, two hour whatever
set that they played that live on in my head
that I didn't know what was to come with Tryptocon
and I should like, in hindsight, depeche Mode at twicken
And really deserves that particular award, and Trypticon very much
deserved the following two like Gig of the Year things
that I bestowed upon them. But that's the one where
I'm like, yeah, it should have been the depeche Mode
show for sure. Next question comes from David Brady, who
asks if any of you could introduce a band you
have gotten into in the last five years to your
younger self just starting on the heavy music road, who
would it be and why. First time I read this question,
I was thinking about this and I didn't register within
the last five years bit so I was thinking just
bands who I love, really love, who I could maybe
give to myself at a slightly earliest stage, and I
got to them and like, how would that change my
music stage? That these aren't bands who I've gotten into
with the last five years. But the thing for me,
like when I was you know, like hardcore getting into
like becoming you know, like heavy music being my life.
Basically when I was like you know, between like twelve
and fourteen, the thing that like came to me most
swiftly was the metal side, right, So, like I loved
you know, Iron Maiden and Metallica and Megadeath and all
of this stuff. The stuff that is like this really
integral part of my musical identity. I suppose that took
me longer to you know, really come to terms with
an explore is more of like the kind of goth
side of things. So I mean I've just mentioned them.
I would say, like band, there's a few bands who
I got into, like hard got into when I was
maybe around like sort of like turning like twenty ish
that if I could give myself to them when I
was like thirteen, I would imagine they would be an
even more like part of my DNA than they are now.
So bands like depeche Mode and The Cure are two
that really jump out that again, like hardcore got into
them a little bit, you know, a few years on
from when I was first really like, you know, my
most formative years. I suppose Similarly, like if I had
gotten into AFI when I was like fourteen rather than
you know a few years after that, I would probably
be even more insufferable about them than I even am today. Similarly,
I think with like Nine Inch Nails past the singles,
like if I'd become like a Nine Inch Nails album's
guy when I was like thirteen fourteen, I would imagine
they would be even more integral than they already are.
I have got you know, I thought some other answers
based on what the question actually says, But Mark, have
you got responses?
Speaker 2: First of all, no, yeah, I the last five years
thing is tricky for me. So I'm sort of like
might involve some time travel, so like picking an album
from twenty twenty one or whatever to give my younger self.
One thing. I really I really struggled getting into like
extreme metal. I was so resistant to black metal for
so long, and I just I look back at young
Mark and the one like the first properly heavy band
I ever liked was Children Abodem because I came into
heavy metal through loving hair metal and I've always been
obsessed with guitar solos, so Children Abodem was very like
painless for me getting into that. So I'd love to
show that guy Moonlight Sorcery and don't read Hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that'd be a more sort of like an
avenue into extreme metal earlier than it did for me.
Maybe Rotten Christ or something. I feel like something you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Christ, you know circa like you know, the early twenty
ten stuff. If you'd heard it at the time and
being like, oh, these are heavy metal songs, like I
can pump my fist to this, that would have worked.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There's things that like maybe wouldn't have helped my journey,
you know, faster or whatever, but things that maybe would
maybe a little bit cooler, Like if I heard Jess
and the Ancient Ones at the time, maybe I would
have been less, you know, weird guy, like I would
have had slightly cooler taste. And I can't imagine myself
really liking Jess and the Ancient Ones back then somewlar
to like I'd love I wish I could go back
in time to like, I don't know, fourteen fifteen year
old Mark and gift him Astronoid like I adore them now,
but especially the last, like the first and the fourth
Astronoid records. That's it. That's my favorite band when I'm fifteen.
You know, it's all the stuff I love and it's
so sugary and addictive, and I don't know if it
would have been a gateway to other things, but I
just like, as a gift to myself, not yourself out
on these records, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, because as simply as what you were saying about,
like you know, if if at the time you'd registered
stuff like the Devil's Blood and just in the ancient
ones kind of happening. There's a couple of bands from
around the era that like I should have gone harder
on earlier, the example being like in Solitude, right, because
there's a few things that were happening that I feel like,
I like hard got into them at the time that
they were basically disappearing. You know. It's like, I would
you know, hard get into these kind of things and
then they'd be breaking up if I'd gotten into on Solitude,
Like even like like an album earlier and really like
paid the attention to them, because it's one of the
things where like, you know, Sister came out in twenty
thirteen and then not long as like they broke up
and sort of around you know, twenty fifteen ish or whatever,
I was like, oh my god, this is a masterpiece.
What the hell? Yeah, And I look back and I'm like,
I missed this, you know, phenomenon happening by like just
a year or two. You know, it's like I should
have gone harder, slightly earlier. The time travel thing that
you're talking about, I think really good picks that you've
gone there in terms of taking albums from like now
basically and give them to your younger self. I wasn't
thinking about that because I was thinking, it has to
be something that's you know, bands I've gotten into with
in the last five years or so, yeah, but have
to have kind of been around at the time where
I could have gotten into them at you know, an
earlier age, and there's not that many of them because
most of the really big important bands. Again, my best
answer to this were stuff like The Cure or whatever,
which I got into, like not necessarily at the beginning
of my teenage years, but like at the end of them,
I guess, you know, maybe some of like the classic
hardcore stuff in the last few years that I've liked,
stuff like carry On or whatever. It's like that would
have been cool to have when I was like fourteen.
And the answer I came to there is maybe Coxbarrough,
like maybe I would try and then because that could
also then lead me onto like you know, battle ruins
and these other things that I've also kind of become
obsessed with. Like if I tried to jump start myself
on the OI side of things a little bit earlier
in my development, maybe I would be even more you
know again kind of immersed in that world then I,
you know, I want to be, So I think that's
an all right answer. Jack Theory asks any examples of
a band you've always been aware of dropping an album
very late in their career that finally makes some click
for you. An example for me is the record The
Acacia Strain dropped last year. I'd always respected them, but
never counted them amongst my most favorite exciting bands until now. Yeah. Again,
there's a certain I'll try to discount sort of ageing
that there's me like hearing of bands on random late
albums for the first time, like I got I got
into the in the mid twenty tens. I got into
bands like on the Earth Crisis or Integrity or whatever,
just based on like the albums. It was like the
first time I'd heard of them. You know. I guess
this question is again, bands who you just like, you know,
were I don't know if resistant is too strong a word,
but you know, bands that you weren't necessarily hard into
who suddenly put an album where you go, oh, this
is the one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I have a track record of like hearing
every album.
Speaker 1: You've got more answer for this than me, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the big one is the Black Dahlia Murder. Who Yeah,
that was it. Yeah, not that I disliked them. I
was just like, oh, yeah, they're fine whatever. I heard
every album from Ever Black onwards because I was friends
with you, so I had to hear them, and I
don't know what it is verminous in twenty twenty, I
heard that one. Then suddenly I was like, oh yeah,
the oh yeah, the Black dilar Murder are great. Yeah,
I get it now, Like when I go back to
that album, it's not one of my favorite Black Dalio Records.
I don't know what it was that I just like,
I don't know, I have lockdown brain maybe and finally
it clicked.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, well, sometimes you yourself just are you know,
you have developed to a point where you something arrives
and it's not It doesn't really matter if it's now
the band's like, you know, signature album or not. It's
just you have arrived at the point where they are
going to to click for you. I don't have like
as definitive an answer in terms of like exactly the
you know, striculations of the question here, but uh, Weezer's
White Album was a was a big one for me,
and I yes, I'd been kind of aware of Weezer
for like a couple of years by that point, because,
like I said, you know on the previous question, the
first thing that I really got hard into when I
was like thirteen was you know, the more the metal
side a band like Wesa were not you know, immediately
in the queue for me, I remember when you know
everything will be all right in the end came out
in twenty fourteen. That's when I started to kind of
become aware of Weezer, and like I heard a couple
of tracks from that and stuff, but maybe my again,
my teenage brain had not quite separated them from Whetas
or whatever at that point. Yeah. But then when the
White album came out, I was like, Okay, I'm absolutely
in right, because how could you not be. And that's
definitely like, you know, a late career album from a
band that essentially made me become a massive fan of
like the band's overall catalog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember seeing that in You and being really
really proud, somewhat like similar to my Black Dali thing.
Why is the most recent pop album the one I
got in on.
Speaker 1: Most recent point? Exactly? Yeah, it does happen for you
a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't know. I'm an interesting guy. I've
got an interesting zone. Good questions, guys, Thanks very much Patreon.
This week is a big week for us because we
started up the specials for twenty twenty six over for
those of you who are kind enough to you know,
continue supporting the show over at the Patreon. We started
with the first part of our first special for the year, which,
as I announced on a previous hyperblasts, is a year
in review special on the In nineteen ninety seven, we
have in the last week knocked out the first chapter
of this in which we looked at I would say
the mainstream of heavy, Some of it wasn't the mainstream
of heavy, So I guess what I just mean is
maybe slightly more accessible forms of metal, because you know,
new metal and fucking power metal were not in the
same place in ninety seven. But we looked at them
both and let me tell you actually fascinating years for both.
You know, the as said, the top layer of what
you immediately know was big in ninety seven, what was popping,
but also surprising genre periods of you know, fruitfulness, of resurgence, whatever.
In this first part it was a way ale. Other
time we started with the new metal stuff, we went
through all of the you know, the late nineties metal
as you would imagine it to be around nineteen ninety seven.
But then I said, we also looked at, like, what
were all the old heavy metal bands doing, like real
mixed successes, some of them doing surprisingly well, many of
them not Looking at what the thrash bands were doing
spoiler not really making thrash metal, but that results in
a whole variety of like different sounds that they were
going for going through again what is a surprisingly key
point in the timeline of power and kind of symphonic metal,
and then a fucking bounty of hardcore records as well,
and the four of us from that Starle Metal going
through all that gaunt of albums, we had disagreements, which
some of which you know, were really like out of
nowhere and like, what do you mean this is the thing.
I didn't expect this to be the thing that we
were going to disagree on one mad disagreement.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then also, if you know, again, if you've
been a long time listener, certain ongoing conversations we've had
being i'd say resolved in very gratifying ways across it
as well. There is more to come on the nineteen
ninety seven special different areas of the t and musical
spectrum that we haven't got to yet. But yeah, it
was a fruitful time going through this first layer of
what was happening.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was a blast. And I just want
to urge everyone to listen to re Manufacture.
Speaker 1: Five times in a week if possible.
Speaker 2: If possible, you know, four is fine if you can't
manage five. I I've loved hearing all the since from
nineteen ninety seven. It's just been scratching my brain.
Speaker 1: That's my main take this, all of the funk bits.
You never could have imagined how many funk bits would
turn up in any that something else special until you
get to looking at the year nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2: It was a good year. You picked well, you looked
at you forensic, you were looking at the nineties trying
to pinpoint the funkiest point in history, and you nail the.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. So if you want to hear that a very
very fun time looking at, you know, a year of
your then patron dot com slash. That's not that supposed
to be. As said, we'll be following up that, you know,
that part with the further parts of that special as
soon as we can. Let's end this hyperblast with releases
for today, the twenty third of January. The top release
of this week is what else could it be? It's
the final album from Titans Megadeth self titled album Right
Love Them or Hate Them? They have given us so
much and it is a real mode of significance to
be receiving the final album ever from one of the
most pivotal integral metal albums of all time. Obviously next
week on That's Not Metal is going to be our
review show for January, and of course where else can
we start? But the final Megadeth album. So many many
further thoughts on that to come, but it's out, the
last Megadeth album ever. Also, Poppy has got her you
know latest in her run of you know Jordan Fish
produced metal core albums. I suppose Empty Hands is out
similarly on the metal core track. Japanese metal core band
Crystal Lake who I think they have not had an
album in like six or seven years or something. It's
been a while from them, but they've got an album
called The Weight of Sound. Mark Japanese metalcore Ficieronado at All.
Speaker 2: I remember them from like ten years ago. I think
I saw them support and Cross Faith or something once.
So long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they are back with again a new album
called The Weight of Sound. And speaking of people who
are back for a first album in a while, Textures,
the progressive you know tech metal band like absolutely Central
tech fest band, right, Textures are back with their first
happened about ten years because they broke up for a while,
called Genotype.
Speaker 2: My God, that title is straight from twenty twelve, Like
they haven't all they're the exact same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, old school British punk legends. The Damned have got
I don't know how many albums at this point, but
they've got a new one out called Not Like Everybody Else.
This could be an interesting one. Back in Greenland have
a self titled album, which is a new band like
very very kind of quick to be put together featuring
ex members have refused doing you know, whatever they are
interested in doing immediately off the back of refused not
being a band. So if you want to hear the first,
you know, musical offerings from some of those guys, then
that self tattled record from that band is out back
in Greenland and a couple of more underground heavy metal picks.
There's a band called Barbarian from Italy with an album
called Reek of God. And this is you know, like
just self described basically maniac heavy metal is a It's
an early contender for one of the best cover arts
of twenty twenty six. It looks like a fucking like
Warcraft three orc or something decapitating a crusader, which is
great and I would encourage people just listen to the Know.
If nothing else, just listen to the thirty second intro
track from this album. Because I was checking things out,
put that on and went, well, okay, that's it got
my attention of how to start an album and the
band legation. I've got an album called After God's which
is a you know, underground you know, slightly more avant
gard leaning death metal pick very much leaning over into
worlds of kind of noise and even a bit of
industrial metal. Like if you want to hear like noisy
god flesh style death metal, I suppose then that is
an offering out there to you in the world. So
that's what we got for today. Thank you very much
for listening. As said, next week here next Friday on
That's notmel It's a you know, it's a big episode
for us because it's our first reviews bag of the year.
We're going to be talking about new Mega Death, We're
going to be talking about New Creator as well well
some more you know TNM staple bands in the mix
as well. The first highlights I suppose of the year
will be found in that reviews bag. And if you
can't wait until then, then you can go and hear
the first part of our nineteen ninety seven retrospective special
over on the Patreon, so we will see you there
for those things. Bye bye