1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: This is pet Life Radio. Let's talk pets. 2 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: Hello, pat levers, want them to cap and tune. I'm 3 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,079 your show host, Michelle Byrne. What a great show today. 4 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,079 I have a very creative woman. She's not only an 5 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:39,159 author of several books, but she's also a chef. I 6 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,840 wonder if she ever does anything fancy for her kiddies. Anyways, 7 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,039 I'm so excited for you to meet her. Stay tuned, 8 00:00:45,039 --> 00:00:46,000 we'll be right back. 9 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:52,679 Speaker 3: You know the expression cats have nine lives? Well, what 10 00:00:52,799 --> 00:00:55,600 if you can give them one more? But give them ten? 11 00:00:55,679 --> 00:00:58,920 Movement is on a mission to help give cats an 12 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:03,640 extra life. 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You're an author of 24 00:01:54,519 --> 00:01:57,200 several books. We're going to talk today about the Magic 25 00:01:57,319 --> 00:02:01,599 of Mister Michigins, where you is just a really good book. 26 00:02:01,879 --> 00:02:04,359 But can you share some background on yourself? And I 27 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,439 tease people with you're also a shep. You are on 28 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,479 Master Chef UK, which congrats, So give us some background 29 00:02:12,479 --> 00:02:14,599 on yourself to share with our audience. 30 00:02:15,039 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 5: Lovely, So hi everybody. Yes, I'm smunk that I live 31 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,960 in beautiful Norfolk, in very sunny England, and I've grown 32 00:02:22,039 --> 00:02:24,759 up with my cats all my life. I've been blessed 33 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,800 to have four familiars as I like to call them, Minsky, Minsky, Merlin, 34 00:02:29,879 --> 00:02:32,639 and now Michikins. And it's Michigans who's turned into this 35 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,719 star of this children's book series. I've always had my 36 00:02:36,759 --> 00:02:39,680 cats with me. I could not bear to be without them. 37 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,879 They just bring so much. And I think anyone who says, oh, 38 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,280 I don't like cats has never actually lived with one, 39 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,960 because they're the most comforting, in tune and spirit animals 40 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,039 I think anyone can ever have. And yes, I was 41 00:02:52,039 --> 00:02:55,719 on Master Chef in twenty nineteen, Master Chef UK, and 42 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,400 yes the cats do get some very special treats. From 43 00:02:58,439 --> 00:03:02,400 time to time, they do their favorites and they do 44 00:03:02,439 --> 00:03:05,919 have some interesting tastes sometimes as well. Merlyn, my old cat, 45 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:10,159 he liked apricot jam on toast. He likes what apricot 46 00:03:10,199 --> 00:03:11,159 jam on toast? 47 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,479 Speaker 2: See your lovely accent compared to my I don't know 48 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:19,000 my yankee one apricot jam on toast. Well that's fancy. 49 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,280 Have you ever cooked like a chef meal for your cats? 50 00:03:22,599 --> 00:03:26,319 Speaker 5: Not quite, But Michigans does have a big He loves prawns. 51 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,960 He really really loves prawns. And I have a great 52 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,639 fishmonger and every time I go in he gives Michigans 53 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,159 some prawns. So that's his treat. And we've actually got 54 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,439 launched over the book next Friday, so missions is going 55 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,240 to have a little prawn platter probably maybe there's some. 56 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,120 He loves rainbow traut as well, so a little fishy 57 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:42,960 platter for him. 58 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,439 Speaker 2: Oh fancy. Okay, your book, The Magic of Mister Michigans 59 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,719 is actually going to be released on August eighth, even 60 00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:53,280 though this show might be a little bit later, and 61 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:55,759 that is actually International Cat Day. 62 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,039 Speaker 5: Yes, I thought it was a great idea too. Everyone 63 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,719 is away in August or because it is quite a 64 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,319 it's known as silly season in the press. There's nothing 65 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,199 really going on, but to tie a children's book in 66 00:04:06,759 --> 00:04:09,479 that's all about cats with International Cat Day, it just 67 00:04:09,479 --> 00:04:10,400 seemed perfect to me. 68 00:04:10,719 --> 00:04:13,879 Speaker 2: Oh of that. So how did the idea of the 69 00:04:13,919 --> 00:04:15,919 magic of Mister Michigan's come to you? 70 00:04:16,519 --> 00:04:16,879 Speaker 3: Okay? 71 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 5: So I had, as mentioned, I had my lovely Merlin 72 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,160 cat who was he was the most beautiful cat, who 73 00:04:22,199 --> 00:04:25,360 was a long haired black moggie cat with green eyes. 74 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,959 And he was born at some stables just down the road, 75 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,600 so he was just a farm cat and I that's 76 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:32,959 where I found him and took him home and he 77 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,439 was my everything. And unfortunately he had cancer and he 78 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,800 died in twenty twenty one, and we did everything we 79 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,399 could save him, and we did manage to extend his 80 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,920 life beyond what the vets said was possible. They gave 81 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,160 him three months and I kept him going for seven. 82 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:53,639 And when he died, I was, understandably, as all listeners know, 83 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:58,800 absolutely bereft. And when he died, I said he was 84 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,000 sliding down rainbows with glitter coming out of his tail, 85 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,560 and that kept me going. And I was just so lonely. 86 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:08,879 I live with my family and we have family cats. 87 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:12,120 As I said, I've always had my own familiar, my 88 00:05:12,199 --> 00:05:15,240 own cat. I was so unhappy not having my own cat. 89 00:05:15,319 --> 00:05:18,600 I started looking, but twenty twenty one was lockdown, and 90 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,199 I don't know what it was like in America. In England, 91 00:05:21,319 --> 00:05:23,360 it was nigh on impossible to get a cat from 92 00:05:23,399 --> 00:05:25,839 a sanctuary, which is where we've always got all our 93 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,040 cats from. And I know you promote that a lot, 94 00:05:28,519 --> 00:05:30,160 and you know I think that's the best place to 95 00:05:30,199 --> 00:05:32,879 go and find your cat, but it was just impossible. 96 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,480 So I ended up actually buying Michikins. I knew I 97 00:05:36,519 --> 00:05:39,560 wanted a ginger cat because they asked such characters and 98 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,839 I'd always had black cats before. And the night before 99 00:05:42,879 --> 00:05:45,519 I picked him up, I thought I was playing with 100 00:05:45,519 --> 00:05:49,879 the name, and I was going Minsky, Minsky, Michigans. And 101 00:05:49,959 --> 00:05:52,560 I said to my family, I'm going to call him Michigins, 102 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,160 and if the name suits him, I'm going to write 103 00:05:54,199 --> 00:05:56,279 a children's book about him, and he's going to run 104 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,199 an apope three. And it was as simple as that, 105 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,519 and I picked him up, look went, yeah, sure, Michigans. 106 00:06:02,079 --> 00:06:04,439 And the most curious thing we got him home. He 107 00:06:04,519 --> 00:06:07,279 was an eight week old kitten. We got him home. 108 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,959 At most kittens when you bring them home scared, aren't 109 00:06:10,959 --> 00:06:13,199 they They run around and they hide and they were, oh 110 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,399 my gosh, for what's going on? And I put him 111 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:18,319 on the blanket next to me and he just laid down. 112 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:21,959 He looked at me, crossed his front paws side and 113 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,639 just went to sleep. I've ever had that before. 114 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,519 Speaker 2: That's incredible. So Michigans is a ginger and he is 115 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,800 the protagonist, the star of this is the second book. 116 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,480 You first book was Mister Michigan's apathe Carrey, and this 117 00:06:38,519 --> 00:06:42,439 one is the Magic of Mister Michigins. You already told 118 00:06:42,519 --> 00:06:46,680 us a little about why you decided to write the book, 119 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,720 but why did you want to make a cat the 120 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,360 protagonist of the story. 121 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:54,079 Speaker 5: When I grew up, my favorite book was Gobbilino, the 122 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:57,160 Witch's Cat, and I loved reading that. And yes, it's 123 00:06:57,199 --> 00:07:01,120 a sad story and everything else, but my children's books 124 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,639 are quite sad in many ways. Think of back beauty, 125 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,920 and I just always wanted to write about my cats, 126 00:07:07,959 --> 00:07:09,800 I suppose, And it was a great way to honor 127 00:07:09,879 --> 00:07:12,480 all the cats I've had before, because every single cat 128 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,240 who appears in the book is real. So all my 129 00:07:15,319 --> 00:07:18,319 previous cats are in their Minsky Minsky man and they're 130 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:20,680 the magical m cats who come to save the day 131 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,079 when things go wrong, and they all float around on 132 00:07:24,439 --> 00:07:27,040 different cushions with glitter coming out of them, because why 133 00:07:27,079 --> 00:07:29,720 not have glitter coming out of a cushion for a cat? 134 00:07:30,279 --> 00:07:32,879 And it was just I don't know, I just really wanted. 135 00:07:32,959 --> 00:07:37,199 I know children relate to children, but sometimes, especially post COVID, 136 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,120 life can be very isolating. And I think if you 137 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,920 have an animal, the bond that you have with a animal, 138 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,560 especially if you're an only child, that bond you have 139 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:47,279 with them is everything. And I've had this most amazing 140 00:07:47,279 --> 00:07:51,800 feedback from parents since the first book was published. And 141 00:07:51,879 --> 00:07:56,519 one mother her son is autistic ADHD, dyslexic and PDA, 142 00:07:57,399 --> 00:08:00,680 and her son he very much keeps themselves to. He's 143 00:08:00,759 --> 00:08:03,759 very friendly, but he can't read, and he would get 144 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:06,040 very frustrated because he couldn't read. He hate being read 145 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,120 to because he couldn't read. They tried all the different 146 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,839 texts that are meant to help with your autistic children. 147 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,040 He still struggled with those. And but he loves cats 148 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,279 and that's the thing. Children just love their animals. So 149 00:08:19,319 --> 00:08:22,480 she got him Mister missions Apothecary, and she managed to 150 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:24,800 read him the whole chapter, which she's never done before. 151 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,040 And the next day he came from home from school 152 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,279 and said, can you read with some more please? And 153 00:08:29,319 --> 00:08:31,959 that's the first time in his whole life he'd never 154 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:34,279 asked to be read to. He never wanted to be 155 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,360 read to before. And that's how his favorite book, well 156 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,919 book day. He dressed up his Michigans to go into 157 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:43,679 school with. And that kind of thing, that bond, that 158 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,279 unique bond that children have with their animals. That's I 159 00:08:46,279 --> 00:08:49,440 think why I wanted the main star to be the cats. 160 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,919 Speaker 2: You know, I think cats from are associated with magic 161 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,720 and mystic and Alana. Then dogs, yes. 162 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,639 Speaker 5: They are, and I think, yeah, dogs tend to plod 163 00:09:00,639 --> 00:09:03,080 alogue and they are very lovely. And I do have 164 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,039 a little dog character in the Magic of Mister Michigans. 165 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,600 I was staying with a friend in California and she 166 00:09:08,759 --> 00:09:12,480 had a gorgeous mania are called Nero. I was with 167 00:09:12,519 --> 00:09:15,159 her for two weeks and I didn't miss Michigans while 168 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,799 I was away because I had this lovely little snaws 169 00:09:17,799 --> 00:09:19,639 that sat on my lap all the time and just 170 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,600 loving me. So I thought I need to put him 171 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,360 in the book as well, and he's going to have 172 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,559 his own spin off series, Nero the Hero. Ohow, But 173 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,600 I just love the fact. There's this great scene in 174 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,480 the book where Niro is outside the Apocycare, Michigans is inside, 175 00:09:33,519 --> 00:09:35,720 and one takes two step forward. So there the two 176 00:09:35,759 --> 00:09:38,039 steps back and then Nero goes into the shop and 177 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,519 the apocyecare and he says, but you're a cat, and 178 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,559 Michigan says, yes, but you're a dog. That doesn't mean 179 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,759 we can't be friends. And I think that's a really 180 00:09:45,799 --> 00:09:47,519 good lesson for everybody in life. 181 00:09:47,799 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yes it is. I wanted to ask you if 182 00:09:52,159 --> 00:09:55,879 Michigan's was a specific breed, but you gave a hint 183 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,759 at the very end of the bug, and I want 184 00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:00,960 to tell you I did get Yes, I had a 185 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,440 feeling he was probably partner me in Kun because he 186 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:06,320 was so tall. Yeah, so one of my cats is 187 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,000 part me in Kuhn. He's not that big, but he's 188 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:09,720 super friendly. 189 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,519 Speaker 5: Michigan's is the most loving cat I think I've ever had, 190 00:10:12,879 --> 00:10:15,720 and I've had some very very loving cats. My first cat, 191 00:10:15,759 --> 00:10:18,399 Minski was basically my babysitter because I was born in 192 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:21,639 the seventies before the intercoms were developed, so my mom 193 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,960 would know I was crying upstairs because Minsky would leave 194 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,440 my bedroom and go down and me out at my 195 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:28,799 mum until she heard me. So I've had always had 196 00:10:28,799 --> 00:10:31,080 this amazing bomb of cats, but Michigan's is something else. 197 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,399 I think it's that the ginger main coon combination has 198 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,559 just made him. I don't know. The bond I have 199 00:10:36,639 --> 00:10:39,480 with him is just so strong, and he's very happy. Today. 200 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:41,799 He's in the office with me. He is so happy today. 201 00:10:41,879 --> 00:10:44,320 That was he spent the whole night in my bedroom 202 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,879 for the first night ever because there was something going 203 00:10:46,919 --> 00:10:49,480 on in the house, and he was so happy. He 204 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,720 was just like the cat who got the cream. He 205 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,480 was like, I'm with my mum all night and I'm 206 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:55,799 on her bed. This is just perfect. He did not 207 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,559 stop pairing. He was very happy, and today he's very tired. 208 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: Are the excitement of the show gearing up for it? 209 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,799 The Apothecary? Does that have any significance other than it's 210 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,360 the home for all the cats, and I know it's magical. 211 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,240 It comes and it goes away. But does that have 212 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,639 any specific significance, not. 213 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 5: Necessarily, I suppose. In many ways I'm quite old fashioned. 214 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,200 And you know, as a saiding Gobbolina is my favorite 215 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:26,000 cat growing up, you know, who lived in the hearth. 216 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:29,759 And I don't know where the apocketree came from. It 217 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,679 just came to me. And it's not really a word 218 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:36,840 that certainly many people these days are so familiar with, 219 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,960 but especially children. So it's always actually is a great 220 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,320 conversation opener right from the get go, because everyone's like, well, 221 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,279 what's the nippocketry? And I'm really lucky. I'm actually doing 222 00:11:46,279 --> 00:11:49,559 the book launch in an old apocketry up in northern 223 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,840 Norfolk next week and there's still got all the original 224 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,679 pockety drawers in there. And maybe it was the drawers 225 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:56,960 that drew me to it because I thought I can 226 00:11:57,159 --> 00:11:59,480 have the cats living in the drawers. But yeah, it's 227 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,559 a strange, but it's just it just worked. 228 00:12:02,039 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: I love them and I want one of those. I 229 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:07,039 want one of those piece of burns or with lots 230 00:12:07,039 --> 00:12:10,279 of drawers. They also look like to me old Then 231 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,440 some people might not know what I'm talking about, but 232 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,639 old library card catalogs. 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She 254 00:13:36,879 --> 00:13:39,879 is the author of several books, including the Magic of 255 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:44,879 Mister Michigan's. So, Samantha, you told us about one story 256 00:13:44,919 --> 00:13:47,759 with the book, how there was a child that wasn't 257 00:13:47,879 --> 00:13:50,519 very interested and his mother read him the book and 258 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,039 he wanted another chapter another. Did you have any other 259 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,720 surprises from people that read the book that you were thought, Wow, 260 00:13:58,799 --> 00:14:02,519 that's really great that happen. And also what age group 261 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:03,279 is the book for? 262 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:07,159 Speaker 5: So yes, I do have some surprises, and I always 263 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:09,440 say the book is seven to eleven, but it all 264 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,840 depends because I have people buying it for their four 265 00:14:11,879 --> 00:14:14,080 year old children of reading it to them because the 266 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,360 book is fully illustrated. I think, as I said, COVID 267 00:14:17,399 --> 00:14:20,559 has changed the way that children read, and I think 268 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,039 to go straight for a picture chapter book to her, 269 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,399 just a plain textbook, because it's a step too far 270 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,440 for some children now. And so I've kind of bridged 271 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,960 this gap and probably made a way unique market in 272 00:14:31,039 --> 00:14:33,960 doing so. But it does work. So I had the 273 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,039 feedback I've had. The surprising one actually is I've got 274 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,679 parents buying it for their twenty thirty year old children, 275 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,679 but for whom English is not their first language, and 276 00:14:43,799 --> 00:14:47,000 then learning to read English through this book. Because obviously 277 00:14:47,039 --> 00:14:49,559 it's a lot easier be the children's book than it 278 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,799 is use some heavy text with a newspaper, for example. 279 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,200 And I've also had a parent who's she was a 280 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,159 fourteen year old and she hated reading, readably hated reading. 281 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:03,600 And no, I'm sorry, she was twelve at the time. 282 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:05,840 She was now fourteen. She was twelve at the time. 283 00:15:05,919 --> 00:15:09,759 She absolutely hated reading. Had literacy lessons at school because 284 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,519 she just hated it. And she come home they said, well, 285 00:15:12,559 --> 00:15:15,320 how is the reading today, and she'd go, oh fine, 286 00:15:15,399 --> 00:15:17,759 and girl says to her room. They got her probably 287 00:15:17,799 --> 00:15:20,919 mister Michigan's Apothecary. She took it into school, started reading 288 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,039 that in literacy classes, and she come home and they 289 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:25,960 say how is literally said, all my word, it was amazing. 290 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,840 There were cats coming out of drawers and I know 291 00:15:27,919 --> 00:15:30,639 that thunder is just jasper, don't jumping down a mountain, 292 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,320 and it's really really exciting, and there's rainbows and there's 293 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,120 butterflies as all these cats, and she was really animated 294 00:15:36,159 --> 00:15:38,279 by it. And she no, not got to use lectual 295 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,159 literous extra literacy lessons. Plus her dad actually contacted me 296 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,080 the other day and said, I now have to buy 297 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,399 By daw To a book every week at least because 298 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:49,399 she's now reading so voraciously and be able to do 299 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,840 that to inspire that gift of reading and a child, 300 00:15:52,039 --> 00:15:55,679 that's for me, that's magic, that's everything. That's you know, 301 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,639 all the money in the world would not compare it 302 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,240 to how that feels to have turned on that light 303 00:16:01,279 --> 00:16:03,840 bulb in a child and enable them to fall in 304 00:16:03,879 --> 00:16:06,519 love with reading, because reading can just take you to 305 00:16:06,679 --> 00:16:10,240 so many different places. And yes, I've got the apocrypsy realm, 306 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,840 but it can take that child all over the world 307 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,279 in the future and just open up their imaginations. For me, 308 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:17,360 that's what it's all about. 309 00:16:17,799 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with you. I've been a vorracious reader 310 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,840 since I was a child. I can't imagine not reading. 311 00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:28,559 And I was doing some research one day, and reading 312 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:34,840 has other benefits. It helps with vocabulary, imagination, and there's 313 00:16:34,879 --> 00:16:37,759 probably more that if you research you can find out, 314 00:16:37,799 --> 00:16:41,360 but it's I don't know. I generally I started reading digitally. 315 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:44,399 I generally have a q you know, of like eight 316 00:16:44,399 --> 00:16:47,039 books at a time. Sometimes it's kind of nuts, but 317 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,919 I think it's amazing. So thank you for sharing that story. 318 00:16:51,159 --> 00:16:54,159 How does the second book differ from the first one. 319 00:16:54,559 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 5: That's a good question. I think people have met mister 320 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,039 Missions in book one him a little bit better. They 321 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,480 know more of the story of the apocy three, so 322 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,759 they can follow it better. But it also reads well 323 00:17:04,799 --> 00:17:07,559 as a standalone book because I've had people read it 324 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,519 this time through beta readers and societies are members of, 325 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,160 and they've not read the first book and they've gone, 326 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,880 on my word, this is amazing. So's you don't have 327 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,759 to have read the first one, which I think is 328 00:17:18,759 --> 00:17:22,079 actually quite useful. It's a lot deeper as well. We 329 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,119 learn a lot more about mister Michigans himself in this book. 330 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,079 We share that the real mister Michigans has got the 331 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:33,039 hip dyspraxia that maincoon cats can sometimes have. And that's 332 00:17:33,079 --> 00:17:36,480 why you know Michigans. We have five cats, and Michigans 333 00:17:36,519 --> 00:17:38,319 will spend his day outside in the office with me 334 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,160 because he can't run about door day. He gets tired, 335 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,119 he ends up in pain, but he chooses his moments. 336 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,000 He will go and have a huli as we call 337 00:17:46,039 --> 00:17:48,319 a zoom time, and then he goes, yes, I need 338 00:17:48,319 --> 00:17:51,400 to need to sleep now and just rest. And we 339 00:17:51,519 --> 00:17:54,039 learn that about mister Michigans there's a bit more we 340 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,839 learn about the apoccree in this book as well, and 341 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,160 what's actually inside the drawers. It's kind of a bit 342 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,039 of a secret at the start, and then a child 343 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,119 actually jumps into the draws and goes running off because 344 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,079 he's he doesn't want to be told what to do, 345 00:18:07,759 --> 00:18:09,680 and so we learn a little bit more about that, 346 00:18:09,759 --> 00:18:12,720 and that the empocketrey basic is this massive thing of 347 00:18:12,839 --> 00:18:15,920 feelings and emotions and any of the cats can control them, 348 00:18:16,039 --> 00:18:16,880 which I quite like. 349 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 2: Actually another thing, and I don't know why this. I 350 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,960 didn't think of this before, but another thing with reading 351 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,640 is that there's a lot of it sometimes even and 352 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:29,920 this is a fiction book, of course, but there's a 353 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,119 lot of hidden messages. So you spoke of, you know, 354 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:37,599 mister Michigin's with hip displays here, so you know, people 355 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,039 know that children reading it can learn, you know, people 356 00:18:41,079 --> 00:18:44,440 have different ailments and it's okay, and you know the 357 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:48,599 different value of that message. I also love that each 358 00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:52,079 chapter has a message that's dealt with. 359 00:18:52,519 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 5: Yes, well did you do that in the first book. 360 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:55,599 Speaker 4: I did. 361 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 5: I was a little bit more scientific in the first book, 362 00:18:58,039 --> 00:19:00,759 and you people say, no, I don't. I don't like clouds. 363 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:03,000 I can't see the sun fed up because I can't 364 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,119 see the sun, so I'd put in just a little 365 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,279 scientific facts about why we have clouds and what they do, 366 00:19:08,759 --> 00:19:12,119 what causes lightning, and things such as that. So it 367 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,640 was that was quite interesting. This one has got a 368 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,839 bit more of the second book, The Magic ofv has 369 00:19:16,839 --> 00:19:18,759 got a bit more of a it's dark as in 370 00:19:19,079 --> 00:19:23,039 nighttime skies, stars the moon, the moon's a bit of 371 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,839 fixation in this book. And just last Friday I did 372 00:19:26,839 --> 00:19:29,720 some planning on book three, which will be called The 373 00:19:29,799 --> 00:19:35,000 Kindness of Mister Michigan's and I've got the little under 374 00:19:35,079 --> 00:19:38,079 theme current that's going to run through that one as well. 375 00:19:38,319 --> 00:19:41,599 So it's very subtle, but it's there, and it's I 376 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,920 love it because children see things that as we as 377 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,759 I do, so off to miss. So I think just 378 00:19:45,759 --> 00:19:48,240 by putting some little extra things in there, they will 379 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,960 pick up it a lot more than we would. And 380 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,519 I do think that's a fun thing to do. 381 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I love the saddle messages, but there is also ambius. 382 00:19:56,039 --> 00:20:00,200 Each chapter has a different message, you know, one as 383 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,000 a child with loneliness, one a child's board, there's one 384 00:20:04,039 --> 00:20:06,759 who scared of the dark, scared of the dark, yes, 385 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,599 and bump. 386 00:20:08,319 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 5: In the night, the creatures that live under your bed. 387 00:20:11,759 --> 00:20:15,240 That's one of my favorite lines is, yeah, everybody something 388 00:20:15,279 --> 00:20:17,680 along the lines of everybody knows that if you have 389 00:20:17,759 --> 00:20:20,000 your teddy bear over your shoulder looking at the door, 390 00:20:20,079 --> 00:20:22,519 then no monster can come into your room. And that's 391 00:20:22,519 --> 00:20:24,519 something I believed as a child if my teddy bear 392 00:20:24,599 --> 00:20:27,200 was there. And it's just trying to remember how I 393 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,440 felt as a child and tap into that a little bit. 394 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,279 But the Lonely chapter is interesting because we got adopted 395 00:20:32,319 --> 00:20:36,039 by a cat last year, Ricky, because again, all the 396 00:20:36,079 --> 00:20:38,519 cats in the book are real. And he went on 397 00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:41,119 the run. He went missing from his he was staying 398 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,519 with his in laws, and he escaped and was on 399 00:20:44,519 --> 00:20:48,920 the run for eighteen months, wow, very eighteen months. Ended 400 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,319 up in our garden and he was here for about 401 00:20:51,319 --> 00:20:53,440 six months before he finally said, you know what, I 402 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,559 can't run anymore. Can you please look after me? And 403 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,480 he's the loveliest, loveliest cat. And he's a very smart 404 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,720 gray with a white tuxedo with brilliant green eyes. And 405 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,640 as soon as we got him, I'm like, he has 406 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,559 to be a chapter in the book. And he has 407 00:21:08,599 --> 00:21:10,640 to be lonely, because he must have been so lonely, 408 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,960 you know, the cat to survive phraty months living in 409 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,240 the countryside with foxes and dogs and farm traffic and 410 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,440 everything else. You know, he did really well. 411 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 2: Yes, and that's a long time it is. 412 00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 5: He's so loving. When we tracked down we did track 413 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,640 down his original owners. They know that we have him. 414 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,200 They don't have a Japanese sharpee dog, so they said 415 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,480 that we can't have him back. But they're in touch 416 00:21:32,519 --> 00:21:35,079 all the time. They see all the pictures and they 417 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,880 know that he's got a love at home and you, 418 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:38,160 so they're happy to. 419 00:21:38,559 --> 00:21:43,279 Speaker 2: Oh, wonderful. You talked about the illustrations briefly, but they 420 00:21:43,319 --> 00:21:46,599 are truly amazing. Can you tell us a little bit 421 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,759 about the illustrator. I believe her name Gerda smid Gnda Smith. Yes, 422 00:21:51,799 --> 00:21:55,880 so Gerda is Oh, she's wonderful. She's South African. And 423 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,160 I was in the UK obviously looking for an illustrator. 424 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:01,640 I hadn't spoken of anywhere on social media that I 425 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,640 was looking for the illustrator, but I was looking at 426 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,839 I was really I knew exactly what I wanted and 427 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,440 also what I didn't want. I didn't want a pencil drawing. 428 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,920 I didn't want a cartoon. I wanted something really unique 429 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:18,480 and wonderful. And she does these amazing watercolors. And she happened. 430 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:21,680 She was just looking She's dommy herself since she was 431 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,160 just looking for all children's book authors, and she followed 432 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,960 me and mister Michigan's on Instagram and I was like, oh, 433 00:22:29,039 --> 00:22:31,240 let's have a look at her. And she'd done this otter. 434 00:22:31,519 --> 00:22:33,680 There's an otter story. It's very big in South Africa, 435 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,799 and the expression on the otter's face that was exactly 436 00:22:36,839 --> 00:22:39,400 what I wanted. So we got in touch. We worked 437 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,480 together for the first one, and she sent me this 438 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,240 amazing message after us about how that came to a 439 00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:48,079 certain point in time in her life and picked her up. 440 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:50,480 And I think that's the magic of Michigans. He healed 441 00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:53,759 my heart after I lost Merlin. It's helped Gerda where 442 00:22:53,799 --> 00:22:55,880 she was in her life. And then we've just done 443 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,880 book two and there's a wonderful picture in there. I 444 00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,720 don't know if you remember it. 445 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 5: It's when Selene is I don't say too much because 446 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,319 it's a bit of a giveaway, but it's the one 447 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,680 where she's if I just say she's dancing with the 448 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,960 Siamese cata around her, you might know which one I mean. 449 00:23:10,079 --> 00:23:13,319 I think so she Girda sent me a message and 450 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,000 she said thank you for reaching for the stars and 451 00:23:16,039 --> 00:23:18,359 taking me to the moon with you. And we've got 452 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,519 such a wonderful friendship now. And I've just literally yesterday 453 00:23:21,599 --> 00:23:24,440 received all the original artwork a bit too, so she's 454 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,400 said it down from his studio, She's sent it from 455 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,039 South Africa. So I've got all the original A three 456 00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:31,079 watercolors which will go in the book, which then goes 457 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,680 so the launch and they're so so special and we're 458 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,720 both on a bit bereft because this one's finish, but 459 00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:39,160 we know that book three will be coming as soon 460 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:39,839 as I write it. 461 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,599 Speaker 2: And I'm going to ask you about Bug three, but first, 462 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,519 can you tell us about mister Michigan's charitable donations. 463 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,799 Speaker 5: Yes, so, I very much believe in giving things back, 464 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,559 because I'm so grateful for every single person who goes 465 00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:55,559 and buys my book, and lots of people at the 466 00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:57,839 book cost thirteen pounds, lighting I am lots of people. 467 00:23:57,839 --> 00:24:00,920 Give me fourteen, say people change people give me fifteen 468 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,400 and say keep the change. And then I also got 469 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,279 some stickers done for him as well, which people could 470 00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:07,799 just make a donation to. So he has this big 471 00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:10,680 ginger it's actual tin in the shape of a ginger cat, 472 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,000 so people just put their money in there. And the 473 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,599 last year he donated twice one was too. I've sort 474 00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:19,319 of saved all up and then rounded it up as 475 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:22,480 well with someone from me, and he donated to the 476 00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:26,000 very local Cats Protection, which actually is where we got 477 00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:27,640 one of our cats from when I was about eight 478 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,160 years old. And then he's also donated to Anesta's Cat 479 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:36,000 Sanctuary which is in Syria, and they've literally rescued thousands 480 00:24:36,079 --> 00:24:39,759 and thousands of cats who were abandoned after the war, 481 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,079 and they actually got bombed themselves in October, and every 482 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,000 single cat was safe because they had to save face. 483 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:49,000 They knew where to go, they knew where to hide, 484 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,880 and they've got so many gingers there as well. It's lovely. 485 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,400 So he sent some money off to them too. He 486 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,440 sent quite quite a nice donation to them, and he'll 487 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,519 be doing the same this year and wonderful. It's always 488 00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:03,279 nice to give back, it is, it's so important and 489 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:05,160 a fair bit for the grace of God. As I 490 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,240 always say, go any of us and if he can 491 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,640 help out some cats somewhere along the way. By his 492 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,559 words and his magic was he's the want telling the story. 493 00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:14,640 Really not me, then so much the better. 494 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: Oh yes, now we talked about you told this about 495 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,319 the book and it has to be mister Michigan's. The 496 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,680 third bug has to be written. Yet when can listeners 497 00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:25,960 expect to see the new bug out? 498 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,079 Speaker 5: So the Magic of mister Michigans is out. As we've 499 00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:31,359 said on eighth of Anger's International Cat Day, I would 500 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,720 actually really like, if it goes well, for the next 501 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,039 one to be the next International Cat Day. And I 502 00:25:36,079 --> 00:25:39,240 think realistically a year is a good amount of time 503 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,279 because it has to be illustrated and the layout, and 504 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:46,039 it does take time to do. And I like to 505 00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:47,920 go get the draft done by the end of this year. 506 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:51,359 But Friday I half wrote it in my head anyway, 507 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,240 so we're probably a little bit further along with than 508 00:25:54,279 --> 00:25:56,400 I thought I would to be. Cats give so much, 509 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,119 and all animals give so much. Dogs and things as well, 510 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,279 dogs and things and rabbits. I think as a companion. 511 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,759 I think if a child has a pet when they 512 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:06,880 are young, I think it makes them a very very 513 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,359 rounded hum would be not naming him. But I had 514 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,559 an X and he never had any animals growing up, 515 00:26:12,759 --> 00:26:16,160 and he was very cold. And we have horses as 516 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,960 well as Arabian horses, and they now the orders to 517 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,920 feed the horses first, and then he feed the cats, 518 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,440 so then the humans come last. And his way was 519 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,240 always like you do the humans first. It's I know 520 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,079 they're here because of us, we have to do them first. 521 00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:31,880 And I think if you grow up surrounded by animals, 522 00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:35,359 loving an animal, I do think it does it makes 523 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,240 you a little bit more of a rounded human being. 524 00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:38,680 That's why I believe. 525 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 2: Think you're right. Work in our audience and all of 526 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,480 our listeners by mister Michigan's bugs for themselves, for their friends. 527 00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:48,920 Where can they buy their own book? So the best 528 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,440 place is mister michigans dot com. 529 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,319 Speaker 5: M I S h K I N S. And mister 530 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,920 isbel properly m I S t e R. Because he 531 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,359 had he's a very oldie worldy cat, so we'd had 532 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,559 to be mister so yet mister missions dot com. There 533 00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:05,400 is a limited edition hardback as well, but you can 534 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,599 find both books on there. Plus you can read all 535 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,880 about the different Cats and their Inspirations. It is on 536 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,240 Amazon dot Co dot UK. I'm trying to get it 537 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,799 onto Amazon dot com. Mister Michigan's aproperies on Amazon dot com, 538 00:27:16,839 --> 00:27:18,920 but I'm just having a I will get it sorted 539 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,119 for the Magic of Mister Michigans to be on Amazon 540 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,559 dot com as well, but mister michians dot com is 541 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,200 the best place, okay. 542 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,519 Speaker 2: I want to thank you so much Samantha for coming 543 00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:31,119 Oncatitude and sharing your book, The Magic of Mister Michigans, 544 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,440 and I am very excited can't wait for it to 545 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:34,839 come out. 546 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having on Michelle. This is 547 00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:39,119 ba to beautiful podcast. I've been listening to them and 548 00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:41,240 you share so much and you do so much for 549 00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:43,200 the feline community. So thank you for that. 550 00:27:43,559 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: Oh You're so welcome. I hope you andreyed the show. 551 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,400 I want to thank my guests Samantha Maddox for joining 552 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,680 us from as we in the US say, across the Pond. 553 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,519 Very delighted to have her on. This book is incredible. 554 00:27:56,799 --> 00:28:01,200 It's a lovely story and the illustrations are just incredible. 555 00:28:01,839 --> 00:28:04,920 The Magic of Mister Michikins. I read it to my 556 00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:08,680 cat crew actually Dennis, Charlotte and Molly, and Dennis was 557 00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:12,200 beaming because you know, mister Michikins's partnering is mean Kuhn 558 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,279 or partnering Kon and so's Dennis. So he had a 559 00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:18,079 friend in the book, so it's really fun. I'd like 560 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,920 to thank everyone listening to Catitude. Thank you so much. 561 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,200 I appreciate your loyalty, and of course thank you to 562 00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:27,880 my producer, Mark Winter because the show would not be 563 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,440 the same without him. And remember, lose the attitude, have Catitude. 564 00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:38,519 Speaker 4: Let's Talk Pets every week on demand only on petlifradio 565 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:52,680 dot com.