WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:06.839 From Workhouse Connect and aj Benza fame. Uh, he'd liked 2 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:09.119 to be walked on a leash and play really dirty, 3 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:12.880 kinky sex games. He's the guy put the cock in 4 00:00:12.919 --> 00:00:17.719 the Peacock network. Okay, bitch, Hey, everybody, aj Benz are 5 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:19.760 here with fame? Is it? Bitch? This is your daily 6 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:23.480 Unfiltered podcast for August fifth, twenty twenty six oh eight 7 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:27.600 oh five, two oh two six. My interview with Alis 8 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:30.800 and Martine will take place tomorrow. She got really busy 9 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:37.240 with her Spectrum News job something to do down in Watts, California. 10 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:41.159 Used to be a very bad area Watts, so she's 11 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:44.560 down there today. We'll do it tomorrow and you'll be 12 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:47.880 thrilled with all the stuff she will tell you about me, 13 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:51.399 as she knows. She's got a much better memory for 14 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:54.000 that show than I do. She'll be telling me a 15 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:55.600 few things the other day that I'm like, come on, 16 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:58.799 that didn't happen. She's like, yes, it did, so can't 17 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:00.719 wait to hear what that's about. I want to tell 18 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:03.039 you a story today about a very famous journalist who 19 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:06.480 was murdered I believe. But first it's going to begin. 20 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:11.319 We're going to do it inside out. Because it begins 21 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:15.680 with Jared Leto, who you guys know has been going 22 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:19.400 through a lot of sexual assault allegations the last week 23 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:22.319 or so, and some years ago the same thing happened. 24 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:25.519 So he's a creep. If it looks like a creep, 25 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:28.519 walks like a creep, acts like a creep, he's a creep. 26 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:32.640 I think it's safe to say. Anybody who's that narcissistic 27 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:37.760 and is an actor and he has a band, rock star, 28 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:43.719 you know, he's bound to do things that a lot 29 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:46.200 of men who don't have the position in life he 30 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:50.120 has might want to do, such as have sex with 31 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:52.959 a bunch of different girls, not miners, but just in general. 32 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:57.079 But that's what these big actors and big rock stars do. 33 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:00.000 Part of the reason why they get into me is 34 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:03.400 because for that trust me. I've often said if drug 35 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:07.920 dealers never got girls, if every girl just avoided a 36 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:11.599 drug dealer, they wouldn't kill trucks anymore. It's not enough 37 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:13.719 for people to just have money. These guys want women, 38 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:16.159 and a lot of women think, oh he's got money, 39 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:19.000 stupid women. Okay, he deals drugs, but he's loaded. I mean, 40 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:21.240 that's a stupid girl. But that's the kind of girls 41 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:24.680 who go after guys like this, so kind of getting 42 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:27.960 up the subject. The point is this, Jared Leto, in 43 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.000 the midst of all this nonsense, lost a major role 44 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:35.000 in this political type thriller that was going to come 45 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:38.199 out called Assassination. Well it's going to be filmed Assassination. 46 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:44.759 Barry Levinson, who did rain Man and a bunch of 47 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:51.840 other great movies, is directing, and back in twenty twenty five, 48 00:02:51.879 --> 00:03:00.439 before production was complete, they passed on casting him because 49 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:04.159 back then there was still murmurs and whispers about his 50 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:09.319 situation with girls, and he was very interested in the role. 51 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:12.039 Obviously he wanted to join the film. He was having 52 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:16.080 ongoing conversations with Barry Levinson about the role. Seemed like 53 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:19.520 it was a done deal to everybody around him, but 54 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:22.719 apparently behind the scenes there was some executives in production 55 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:26.680 and even Barry Levins and the director were very aware 56 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:31.039 of the allegations surrounding him, and they discussed maybe you know, 57 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:37.919 they discussed things internally before initial talks began with Jared Leto. 58 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:41.439 So the article I'm reading says a source close to 59 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:46.960 the production claimed the thirty seconds Tomorrow's frontman lost the 60 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:51.479 role when these number, these numbers of sexual misconduct allegations 61 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:56.599 got higher and higher, and then he became impossible to ignore. Also, 62 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:01.840 not for nothing. If you saw last year's movie on Errors, 63 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:04.360 oh my god, would I wouldn't see that if you 64 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:09.159 paid me one hundred dollars right now. That shitty, dismal 65 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:14.280 performance also may be the reason for the decision not 66 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:17.600 to move forward with Jared Lettle. But that could have 67 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:20.040 been a good excuse to drop him from the project. 68 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:24.040 So Brian Cranston's in the movie, Brendan Frage's in the movie. 69 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:27.600 And this story is a great story. Assassination is a 70 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:37.040 story about the journalist Drothy Killgowan. Hold on one second, 71 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:48.839 it'll be earlier. Hold on, like, uh okay, anyhow So yeah, 72 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:52.920 So Dorothy Kilgellen, great journalists, great female journalist, maybe the 73 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:58.279 best ever, died under mysterious circumstances while she was investigating 74 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:03.160 the assassination of President John Kennedy. So that's what Assassination 75 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:07.480 is about. It was going to be made a while ago, 76 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:11.680 but it was delayed by a lawsuit. I think the 77 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:15.959 co writer and had a problem with it. Blah blah blah. 78 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:19.000 But anyhow, it's moving forward. Now, but not with Jared Leto. 79 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:22.600 They don't know who's going to replace him yet, doesn't 80 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:26.120 have release date yet. But because of all this nonsense 81 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:29.839 that Letto is accused of from twenty oho two to 82 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:33.920 twenty sixteen having to do with girls from sixteen to 83 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:36.279 eighteen while he was in his thirties and forties, that 84 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:41.480 caused a big problem. But more important, the Dorothy count count. 85 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:44.600 The Dorothy kill Gallan movie has needed to be made 86 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:50.160 for a long time because the story's fascinating. The scandal 87 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:54.199 around her involves the fact that she died very mysteriously. 88 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:58.839 She had a private interview with Jack Ruby and an 89 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:03.240 intense investigation into the assassination of Kennedy. She was very 90 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:09.399 vocal at not believing the lone gunman theory from the 91 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:13.680 Warren Commission, and she eventually became the only reporter to 92 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:16.600 get a one on one interview with Jack Ruby. The 93 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:19.600 guy will killed Lee Harvey Oswell obviously during his trial, 94 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:22.399 and she was telling friends and she even told her 95 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:25.879 lawyer her husband that she was close to breaking the 96 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:31.759 biggest scoop of the century regarding the assassination. Now a 97 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:34.240 little background on kill Gallan. She was known for her 98 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:37.639 column called the Voice of Broadway. It appeared in the 99 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:40.839 New York Evening Journal. It was published in over a 100 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:44.639 one hundred and forty papers. She also had a prominent 101 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:47.560 role on the game show What's My Line back in 102 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:52.839 the fifties, and many people considered the most powerful female 103 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:57.560 voice in America. And she spent a majority of her 104 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:04.560 career in controversy because of this mystery surrounding her investigative 105 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:08.360 work into the Kennedy assassination. She didn't believe the Warren Commission, 106 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:11.040 which was the study conducted by the government into who 107 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:14.199 killed JFK as well as who killed Lee Harvey Oswell 108 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:20.040 and kill Gallan decided to dive deep into the controversy, 109 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:24.199 and because of how she died, maybe some believe she 110 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:28.480 dove too deep, But that's what great journalists do. They 111 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:33.240 don't do it anymore pussies. But she did it on 112 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:38.319 the biggest story in the world. What bulls good for her? 113 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:42.879 So she was under the suspicion that Oswald didn't commit 114 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:46.879 his crimes alone, and she published some articles reflecting what 115 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:50.839 she believed. Jack Ruby, who we know allegedly killed Lee 116 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:54.040 Harvey Oswell up in that garage at close range back 117 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:57.759 in November of sixty three, was only interviewed by one reporter, 118 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:00.600 and that was darthe Killgown And since that interview with Ruby, 119 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:04.600 a lot of people know or knew her back then. 120 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:07.480 Said she carried a file with her at all times 121 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:10.360 and it remained under lock and key when it wasn't 122 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:14.120 physically in her hands. That's how much she cared about 123 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:17.639 what was in this file. And the file got bigger 124 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:21.000 and bigger through the investigation. At one point she had 125 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:25.600 a conversation with her lawyer, Jim Garrison, right before she 126 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:29.480 was to go to New Orleans, and then she canceled, 127 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:32.480 and he remembers her saying, I'm going to break the 128 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:34.440 real story and have the biggest scoop of the sentry. 129 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:36.320 That's what she's was saying a lot to a lot 130 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:39.039 of people around her the trip to US. The trip 131 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:42.320 to New Orleans was planned two weeks before she died 132 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:46.679 when her husband, a guy named Richard Colmer, found her 133 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:51.519 with files missing by her hairdresser in her bedroom. She 134 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:54.840 never slept in, dressed in clothes she would never wear, 135 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:58.279 to bed, reading a book she'd finished, and didn't like 136 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:02.480 wearing glasses she didn't need for reading, and she was 137 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:05.320 found dead in her townhouse on each sixty eighth Street, 138 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:09.879 sitting up in bed, naked beneath a blue bathrobe with 139 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:13.039 the same makeup and the same hair accessories she wore 140 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:16.679 on TV the night the night before on What's My Line? 141 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:22.120 And in the initial autops report the Brooklyn Medical Office, 142 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:25.120 not the one in Manhattan where she lived, they found 143 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.519 her cause of death to be a lethal combination of 144 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:32.919 alcohol and barbituates. Later on that report got amended to 145 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:37.279 note that the barbituate originally found second All, which was 146 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:40.639 a fantastic sleeping pill back in the day, and she 147 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:44.679 was prescribed that, but it was in fact a combination 148 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:47.320 of two and all and nembutoh, which she did not 149 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:51.759 have prescriptions for. Hmm. But they still ruled their death 150 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:56.360 of suicide, and her husband remembered that when she returned 151 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:59.320 from taping Once My Line, she appeared very happy and 152 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:04.360 chipper and you know, her usual self. There's a research 153 00:10:04.440 --> 00:10:06.320 by the name of Mark Short. I think we used 154 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:10.679 them on mysteries and scandals for this episode, maybe others, 155 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:14.799 but definitely for this episode. He investigated her death and 156 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:17.320 found that she was under surveillance by the FBI, through 157 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:21.559 the Freedom of Information Act, and friends of hers remember 158 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:25.200 that she used to express the fact that she was 159 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:28.600 scared for her own life leading up to her death, 160 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.879 and she even supposedly purchased a gun, which is not 161 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:35.320 something she would do. It's not you know, it's very 162 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:38.039 uncharacteristic for her to have bought a gun, but she did. 163 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:40.480 And when a lawyer asked her why she chose to 164 00:10:40.519 --> 00:10:42.799 cancel that trip to New Orleans prior to her death, 165 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:45.639 she said, if the wrong people knew what I know 166 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:48.559 about the JFCARE assassination, it would cost me my life. 167 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:56.039 So back in twenty seventeen, the JFK files were released, 168 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:59.960 and there's a file entitled Dorothy Kilgallon by Richard Nixon 169 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:05.320 that was released, but it's it's remained sealed because of 170 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:11.159 national security. You know, eighteen witnesses to this assassination were 171 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:16.480 all found dead under mysterious circumstances, and now obviously Killgowan 172 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:20.519 is one of them. But I mean, come on. One 173 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:23.759 of the most crazy facts about the book from Mark Shaw, 174 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:28.919 Denial of Justice It's called, is that Jack Ruby was 175 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:33.240 in a Dallas newspaper building by a window overlooking Kennedy's 176 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:37.039 motorcade on that afternoon November twenty second, sixty three, when 177 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:41.000 Kennedy was killed. Several witnesses saw Jack Ruby there at 178 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:44.240 the time of the shooting, so he obviously knew about 179 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:48.480 the assassination before it happened. That's what mark Shaw says 180 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:52.960 at interviews. So that revelation and other evidence in the 181 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:57.320 book that blows apart the FBI director j Ed Gohover's 182 00:11:57.600 --> 00:12:02.080 claim that Oswald acted alone, and it basically points to 183 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:06.440 a conspiracy led by New Orleans mafia boss Carlos Marcello, 184 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:10.679 and that's who killed Gallan was supposed to meet. So 185 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:15.120 mark Shaw got this new information after writing the best 186 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:18.360 seller The Reporter Who Knew Too Much, which goes into 187 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:21.879 great detail about how kill Gallen was poisoned in sixty 188 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:26.440 five while she was investigating the murder, and his investigation 189 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:29.320 shows that darthor Coagallen died when her drink was spiked 190 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:31.879 with three lethal drugs by a man with whom she 191 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:38.000 was having an affair, an Ohio newspaper calumnist. But he 192 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:41.279 was probably spying on her at the behest of the 193 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:44.240 FBI or maybe the mafia, or maybe both. I remember 194 00:12:44.279 --> 00:12:48.159 that that side of the story being told on our 195 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:51.480 show Mysteries and Scandals. But after the release of that book, 196 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:54.960 the reporter who knew too much sure then was able 197 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:58.600 to get a two thousand page manuscript of Jack Rubies 198 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:01.320 nineteen sixty four trial, which was not easy to get. 199 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:05.360 And at the time, reporters didn't pay much attention to 200 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:08.879 the trial because, you know, Ruby shot Oswell on TV 201 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:11.399 in the basement of the Dallas police station. It was 202 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:14.639 open and shut, right. Nobody cared about who might have 203 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:18.759 put Ruby up to killing Oswald, and the media was, 204 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:22.320 you know, pushing the government's official line that Oswald acted alone, 205 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:24.799 which the media tends to do all the time now. 206 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:32.639 But the trial transcripts gave Shaw a lot of new 207 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:36.200 material that showed Jack Ruby was part of a conspiracy, 208 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:39.480 and he began to figure out that Ruby's lawyer, who 209 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:42.960 was a big shot from San Francisco, Melvin Belli, big 210 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:46.039 big attorney, he was doing a mob of favor by 211 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:50.000 having Ruby plead insanity so that the investigation would stop 212 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:53.120 right there, because who's going to believe a crazy mastard, right? 213 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:59.159 Marvin bell I was on call for the mob after 214 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:04.679 this assassination, and Shaw writes, while having lunch at Fisherman's Wharf, 215 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:08.480 bell I heard that Oswald had been killed and he 216 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:12.320 said to a witness that show interviewed, well, since Oswell 217 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:16.120 is dead, I have to defend Ruby. So at the trial, 218 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:18.639 Ruby wanted to take the stand, but bell I wouldn't 219 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:22.200 let him. Ruby gave a couple of interviews that Dorothy 220 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:26.279 kill Gallan, you know, nationally known calumnists for the Hearst 221 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:31.200 newspaper syndicate. It's a great deal of what she learned 222 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:33.240 from Ruby didn't make it into her column, but she 223 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:35.879 planned to use it in a book, but because of 224 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:41.720 her death, that book would never be published. Denial of Justice, 225 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:44.720 the other book that Shaw wrote, makes it very clear 226 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:49.559 that in the minds of those behind the assassination, kill 227 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:53.399 Gallan had to be killed. And she told people just 228 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:56.799 before a death that she had evidence that would blow 229 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:01.919 the JFK case wide open. And her panelists on What's 230 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:06.840 My Line a random House publisher named Bennett Surf. He 231 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:08.519 gave her an advance on a book she was going 232 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:12.399 to write about the assassination. Serf read the book's preface 233 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:15.799 the evening of her final What's Mineline episode before death, 234 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:19.039 he told people he was impressed by it, and she 235 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:22.320 was murdered November eighth, nineteen sixty five, a day before 236 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:25.039 she was going to go to New Orleans to visit 237 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:29.679 Carlos Marcello at the end of her investigation, and a 238 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:33.159 few hours after she died, but right before police arrived, 239 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:38.919 witnesses say they saw the They saw some FBI men 240 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:42.679 carrying files out of her Manhattan townhouse. And you know, 241 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:46.000 then again, the federal agents might actually have been members 242 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:48.159 of the mob. Who knows, they can wear different outfits. 243 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:51.679 Either way, the notes she had and the files she 244 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:56.240 was amassing on the JFK case were gone. I know 245 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:00.360 some of you might be saying at this point ANOTHERFK 246 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:04.080 conspiracy theory, But in the late sixties and most of 247 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:08.720 the seventies, every idiot was offering a theory about who 248 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:13.879 killed JFK the country. It's still this way, but back then, 249 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:17.320 you can imagine the conspiracy theory fatigue that was setting 250 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:20.120 in because everybody it's still going on. Even if you 251 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:23.399 saw Oliver Stone's JFK. I mean, it's still hard to 252 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:29.120 understand what happened. Most people didn't feel that Oswald. Most 253 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:33.960 people felt that Oswald didn't act alone, but who masterminded 254 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:38.440 the assassination that was up for grabs. The Russians, the Cubans, 255 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:42.799 the mob, Lyndon Johnson, they were all suspects in the 256 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:48.480 public's mind. Now, sure, the journalist was a former attorney. 257 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.320 He's written twenty five nonfiction books, and he backs up 258 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:57.799 his claims in denial of Justice with He has recorded interviews, 259 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.600 He's got source documents like the t script of the 260 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:04.079 Ruby Trell. He's got a website out there, the Drothy 261 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:11.200 killgallonstory dot org to host the recordings and documents he sided. Now, 262 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:14.680 I know the subject of JFK being killed is a 263 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:17.079 topic that people don't really like to delve into. It's 264 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:19.960 kind of like, you know, but if you read the book, 265 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:22.559 if you've just paid for the book, Yeah, there's a 266 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:26.279 little bit of levity in there, especially concerning an incident 267 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:30.960 and Palo Alto that Shaw talked about as part of 268 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.680 the criminal history of the man he believes killed. Dorothy 269 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:38.119 killed Gallant a hearted newspaper man named Ron Pataki. So 270 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:40.680 in nineteen fifty four, Patacki, who was then a freshman 271 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:44.000 at Stanford, got pissed drunk one night with a couple 272 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:47.279 of friends, ended up at the Palo Alto bus station 273 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:50.440 and they demanded that the bus driver let them on 274 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:54.039 the bus, but he refused. Then a wine bottle was 275 00:17:54.039 --> 00:17:55.599 thrown at the front window of the bus and the 276 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:57.839 driver went to a phone book to call the cops, 277 00:17:57.839 --> 00:17:59.440 but the phone had been ripped out by one of 278 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:02.480 the drunkens students, but police caught up to three of 279 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:06.079 them and arrested them. So Shaw's first sauce about the 280 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:09.759 incident was clipping from the Stanford Daily archives, and to 281 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:14.880 flesh it out, he found one of Pataki's cohorts, a 282 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:16.880 guy that was pretty famous back in the bay Ere, 283 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:21.799 a criminal defense attorney named Tony Sarah. Sarah, well, I 284 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:23.480 think he might be dead. He's definitely got to be 285 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:26.400 in his nineties or something by now, but he told 286 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:28.440 Shaw he met Pataki while the two played on the 287 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:34.039 Freshman of Stanford football team, and Sarah confirmed to show 288 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:36.079 that the three of them were arrested. When the police 289 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:38.960 did arrive, I hid between two buses and PATTACKI hit 290 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:43.039 under a bus, but they found us. So Pataki, who 291 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:45.759 was involved in other incidents over the years, wasn't charged 292 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:48.480 in kin Gallan's murder, but he made a number of 293 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:53.240 incriminating statements indicating that he knew her drink had been poisoned. 294 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:58.000 You know that Winston Churchill quote about a riddle wrapped 295 00:18:58.039 --> 00:19:01.359 in a mystery inside of the enigma. That's basically what 296 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:07.279 the Kennedy assassination is. And Mark Shaw's research makes him 297 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:10.799 believe that the mafia felt double cross by JFK's father, 298 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:17.079 Joseph Kennedy, the big fucking bootlegger, and Joe Kennedy asked 299 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:20.440 the mob to swing the nineteen sixty presidential election by 300 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:23.799 using its influence with the unions in West Virginia and Illinois, 301 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:27.559 which were Tuesdays Kennedy needed to carry to defeat Richard 302 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:30.359 Nixon and then return to mafia. Believed the government would 303 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:34.319 stay off its back. But once he won the presidency, 304 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:38.480 his brother Robert Kennedy was Attorney General. He couldn't stand 305 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:41.920 the mob. He didn't get the memo to lay off 306 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:47.079 the mafia. He began to vigorously investigate organized crime, and 307 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:49.960 the mafia reacted because I think they're gonna do with 308 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:52.920 Zora Mom Donnie in New York. I got a feeling 309 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:55.759 that guy is going to be killed, but that's another show. 310 00:19:56.000 --> 00:20:00.359 But their first thought was to kill Robert F. Kennedy. 311 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:03.400 You know, John Kenny would probably respond to his brother's 312 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.000 murder by, you know, pouring even more effort into busting 313 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:10.000 up them mafia. Then they realized that if they got 314 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:14.480 rid of JFK, his successorlann In Johnson, wouldn't keep RFK 315 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:19.440 as Attorney General. Johnson and Robert Kennedy couldn't stand each other. 316 00:20:20.759 --> 00:20:23.880 So back to New Orleans crime boss Carlos Marcella. He 317 00:20:24.039 --> 00:20:26.480 was tasked with a job of rubbing out John Kennedy. 318 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:28.720 He was asked to do the killing or put together 319 00:20:28.759 --> 00:20:32.759 the murder, and Shaw has evidence of Oswald in Marcello's 320 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:36.359 office a month before the assassination. There's also evidence in 321 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:38.839 the book that FBI Director Hoover was involved as well. 322 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:43.359 I mean, you might not really believe everything about Shaw's conclusion, 323 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:47.240 but it's based on evidence which a lot of these 324 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:50.960 theories and conspiracies don't have. They go more on the gut. 325 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:53.839 But this is based on evidence from a former attorney 326 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:57.799 and a hell of a good reporter. As for kill Gallon, 327 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:02.000 the evidence shows she she was very fearless, she was 328 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:06.400 a dothed reporter and basically broke the glass ceiling in journalism, 329 00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:09.880 long before the term became popular. And yet, if you 330 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:12.960 ask me, even though last year New York City made 331 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:16.680 East sixty eighth Street drothy kill gallan way she never 332 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:19.559 got to do for at one time being the most 333 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:23.400 powerful voice in America. People talk about Walter Winchell. I 334 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:25.880 know all about him. In fact, somebody who wrote a 335 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:29.880 big piece on me mentioned that I was the most 336 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:32.559 like him because Walter Winchell used to write about himself 337 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:36.559 a lot too, and I did too. You know, my 338 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:38.839 Sunday column was all about my exploits in the city, 339 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:41.279 so I used eye a lot, and they kind of 340 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:45.119 made it sound like Benza does with Winchell did whatever, 341 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:48.240 which I take as a comment. However, when Walter Winchell died, 342 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:53.720 as powerful as he was, nobody showed up at his funeral. 343 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:57.440 And this guy knew the world. Nobody, I think, just 344 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:01.279 just his daughter. But not for not. If you think back, 345 00:22:01.400 --> 00:22:05.960 you think about kill Gallon and Marilyn Monroe, almost identical 346 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:08.440 in the way both of them are found dead, two 347 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:11.759 young women who knew too much and had to be 348 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:16.839 dealt with, only to have the truth swept under the rug. 349 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:20.279 Not much has changed in Marshington d C has a gang. 350 00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:25.720 I don't think so. Then that suck. But uh yeah, 351 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:28.680 I got sick again, not sick, meaning physically sick. And 352 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:33.160 I got sick just reading this story about I touched 353 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:37.960 on it the other day. About all these podcasts making millions. 354 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:41.160 Obviously Rogan eighty two million, we know about him, the 355 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:45.079 Kelsey Brothers thirty seven million, the guys on SmartLess, well 356 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:47.599 on that, Sean Hayes, Jason Bateman, I think it's twenty 357 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:51.720 four million, and then Amy Poehler twenty four But what 358 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:54.920 the fuck she sits across from a desk and talks 359 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:59.680 to her friends twenty four mil. There's nothing exciting about 360 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:05.079 the show. It's basically a talk show for like forty minutes. Unbelievable. 361 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:08.279 There's got to be a burst, the burst, the bubble 362 00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:10.960 has to burst with these these payments to these podcasts. 363 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:14.319 Then this other asshole, Katie Nolan, who's supposed to be 364 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:18.359 a fantastic sports personality. I mean when they hired he's 365 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:21.359 coming out of Boston. This girl never played high school ball, 366 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:25.240 never played college ball, but yet she's a sports authority 367 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:29.200 and she's the other day she's talking about she's taking 368 00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:32.319 the other side of Sophie Cunningham, the w NBA player 369 00:23:32.680 --> 00:23:38.359 who's all the rage now for saying trans women should 370 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:41.640 not be allowed to play in WNBA. Very common sense, 371 00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:45.880 that's very common sensical because they're really men with faked 372 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:48.039 teds and a dressed in a wig and everything. If 373 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:52.880 they haven't penis enough, the musculature, the bone density, the strength, 374 00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:57.039 there's no comparison. And a lot of people in WNBA, 375 00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:00.000 including coaches who wear shirts that say trans kids below. 376 00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:05.279 You know, well that shirt right the coach of Minnesota, 377 00:24:05.559 --> 00:24:08.079 what's what that fucking state? You guys are the worst? 378 00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:12.680 The Minnesota coach what trans kids belong? No, they don't. 379 00:24:13.079 --> 00:24:17.160 They don't belong in women's sports. They don't. And Klay Travis, 380 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:19.640 who I think is fun, he had a great point 381 00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:21.960 today and I second this, and I've said it out 382 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:25.720 loud but not into the microphone. Let me get a 383 00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:32.160 team of transgender women, male to female trannees and let's 384 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:34.680 do a whole team of those, That's what Clay Travis said. 385 00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:38.720 And they'll play any female WNBA team, And I don't 386 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:42.799 think the female team will score a point because all 387 00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:48.160 these women are really men, and men will run circles 388 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:50.640 around a woman. I maybe Caitlin Clark a couple of 389 00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:53.480 long threes. She's great at that. I don't think they'll 390 00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:56.440 get more than twelve points. I think the tranny women 391 00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:59.880 will have like sixty. Let's see, it's gonna be awful. 392 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:02.880 As matter of fact, I could put together a team 393 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:07.359 of junior high school boys who would beat any team 394 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:11.160 in a WNBA. They're not even men yet, the young boys, 395 00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:13.000 and I bet they'll win. So if you take somebody 396 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:16.319 that was a man all his life and suddenly transitions 397 00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:20.599 to a woman, the WNBA says that Sophie Cunningham is 398 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:23.920 racist and all sorts of things and transphobic because she 399 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:26.920 doesn't want them in her league. She's exactly right, and 400 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:30.079 she's getting shit for them. Last night, well two nights ago, 401 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:33.559