WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:05.559 It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and carn 2 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:10.679 S e O and JP Sorrow. He's a lapsed fan. 3 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:13.679 In all my years and wrestling. 4 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:21.480 I never seen anything. 5 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:23.039 And it's the laps fan name by the one in 6 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:23.480 the ring. 7 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:24.960 Forget about Sado. 8 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:26.160 He the real king of swing. 9 00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:26.960 When the bell. 10 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:30.000 Goes in and the kick like me throwing in the corner. 11 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:31.280 But it's lash like stick. 12 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:34.719 Even Jerry King can take off the crowd nodded in. 13 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:35.359 His head like it. 14 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:37.560 Steve low Brown, would you get low down? 15 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:39.079 Go even high up? 16 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:40.200 Flipp you on your head? 17 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:42.119 But you know cool driver, you. 18 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:44.960 Speak more now and Dragon spits fire give you more 19 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:47.880 shock than when he treats higher drop a more truth 20 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:50.759 than the con of sniper unless you with a coconut. 21 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:52.759 Roddy Piper, Jack and JP. 22 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:55.479 He like j Y d drop the cupcakes and gold. 23 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:58.799 The brain Bob means the best podcast Frost start the 24 00:00:58.880 --> 00:00:59.520 close cloud. 25 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:01.920 If you all been as a classic. 26 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:04.920 And pose well, this is the run. This is the 27 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:08.959 run of SID as we continue our tribute to the 28 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:13.840 Psychotic One here on TLF which and Sid Fashion Boss 29 00:01:13.879 --> 00:01:14.079 is just. 30 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:21.359 Well actually there was a SID. 31 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:23.799 On this on the Austrian indies named Sid Vienna, but 32 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:27.920 they didn't not they never got sued for copyright infringement 33 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:28.599 or anything like that. 34 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:33.680 Surprising it that's his fall. Should have checked it on it. 35 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:35.799 But I mean, I adventure to say, if not for 36 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:38.040 the run we're about to talk about, on a journey 37 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:40.640 that into Sid fashion keeps growing new heads. 38 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:43.159 As it Inferls before us. But we don't. We don't. 39 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:45.239 We don't shy away from the challenge, no matter how 40 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:46.760 psychotically those eyes wilink. 41 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:51.359 That's the reality of it, all right. You know we've 42 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:53.040 said it, and it's not we don't be We're not 43 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:55.760 facetious when we say it that we leave no stone. 44 00:01:55.519 --> 00:02:00.439 Unturned TFX like damn fucking right. Indeed, And so as 45 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:02.519 we look at SiZ returned to the w WF in 46 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:04.680 nineteen ninety six where we last left you, this is 47 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:07.000 the run where if you didn't have this run, I'm 48 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:08.800 pretty sure we don't do a tribute show with this guy. 49 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:12.240 I mean, as central as he was to the Hasbro 50 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:15.120 era with the Hogan feud that was, that could have 51 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:17.719 just gone down, as you know, no different than Hogan's 52 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:20.800 feud with I don't know, somewhat different but not much 53 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:22.759 different than this feud with what Big Boss Man or 54 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:23.159 something or. 55 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:26.120 Ki Kung Bundy King Kung Bunny. Very very good. Yeah, 56 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:28.039 because there's the wrestleming the main event competit to that 57 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:28.479 one as well. 58 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:34.360 Yeah, but because he won the WWF Championship after stabbing 59 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:42.599 ourn Anderson, after being h exiled and becoming you know, unemployable. 60 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:43.800 And I knew that they even knew that he was, 61 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:46.560 that he had stabbed arn Anderson when he came back 62 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:49.680 in ninety six. I don't think I knew that. Now. 63 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:52.840 That wasn't really something you would easily know unless you 64 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:56.000 subscribe to the newsletters. Yeah, I'm sure it was on 65 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:57.800 the internet, but the Internet was still you know, prodigy. 66 00:02:57.840 --> 00:02:59.879 It wasn't very easy and intuitive to find him for 67 00:02:59.879 --> 00:03:01.599 me about wrestling if you weren't plugged into the right 68 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:04.439 message boards and forums. And even then, you know what 69 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:07.360 happened to be sort of mentioned offhandedly, it had happened 70 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:10.280 years ago, years prior rather, but when it happened in 71 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:13.159 ninety three, yeah, I mean, there was very limited information. 72 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:15.280 I'm sure further because it took place in England, it 73 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:18.759 wasn't even like a right story The American news media covered. 74 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:22.240 So it's just it's so pro wrestling that Sid has 75 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:26.479 the run of his life and cements' legacy after you know, 76 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:29.280 doing something more horrific than pretty much anyone in an 77 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:31.639 American wrestling office. This other ever done into a co 78 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:35.759 worker here. So that's the business. That's the Sid story. 79 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:38.479 And he comes back in ninety six, as we talked about, 80 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:41.080 because Ultimate Warrior has another falling out with the company. 81 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:43.120 There was supposed to be a main event in the 82 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:45.919 July ninety six international incident in your House where Hogan, 83 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:53.240 pardon me, Hogan, Warrior was team with a sary. 84 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:54.840 What do you mean an international dude? 85 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:57.400 Hogan does not believe that was an innocent slip of 86 00:03:57.400 --> 00:04:01.680 the Tongue Warrior Shawn Michaels and I'm a Johnson. It's 87 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:03.560 supposed to be a three man team and a six 88 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:06.000 man Warrior falls out. Sid shows up. We played that 89 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:08.159 clip last week and little did they know at first, 90 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:09.479 you know, it's just this idea. We need to do 91 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:12.039 an emergency replacement, get him on a couple of house shows. Well, 92 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:13.960 warri were scheduled and the fans be pissed off if 93 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:15.879 he doesn't show up. Replace them with somebody, you know, 94 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:18.240 with the star power of Sid uh to make them 95 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:20.360 happy and make entreaties to sit around just a fuck 96 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:22.040 couple of shots, you know, just come in. We just 97 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:24.639 need you to power mombs and people bail us out 98 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:26.079 for this pay per view, and then pretty soon we 99 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:26.600 need you, Pal. 100 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:30.000 But I never said we weren't going to use you 101 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:33.959 full time, you know. I didn't say that we weren't. 102 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:35.920 I said, you know, we need you for a couple 103 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:40.839 of things now, and then we'll probably have you working overtime. Listen, 104 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:43.120 but I'm paying for you, Sid. We need you, Pal. 105 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:47.120 You know, we need a lot of things right and 106 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:50.079 right now we need Sid. We need a lot of 107 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:55.399 things to go psychotic. In ring, he tells Sid, we 108 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:57.160 need a lot of things. In other words like look, 109 00:04:57.959 --> 00:04:59.720 I can't I don't have any time right now for 110 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:02.759 you to say no to a full time run. Listen, 111 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:07.279 You've got to go full time hard and you can't 112 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:08.560 turn back. And he does. 113 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:10.720 And you want to talk about serendipity. What was the 114 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:12.879 last pay per view that we did on the feed 115 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:15.800 before SID before deciding on the SID tribute shows and 116 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:16.439 embarking on that. 117 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:19.720 It was buried Alive, right, I mean, come on, yeah. 118 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:22.160 Right, that's the pay per view where it's now clear 119 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:25.480 that they've shift shifted directions that Vader is not indeed 120 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:26.959 going to take the strap off Shawn Michaels at the 121 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:29.319 nineteen ninety six Survivor series, as we've talked about in 122 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:33.000 the archives covering that show quite a ways ago, and 123 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:35.120 that they're going to go with Sid because Sid beats 124 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:38.800 Vader at Buried Alive or relatively cleanly, and you can 125 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:41.040 kind of see the in my opinion, the pou pout 126 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:42.600 face on Vader as he makes his way to the 127 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:44.079 ring for that match. He does not look like a 128 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:46.360 happy guy. He looks like someone that, according to Sid, 129 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:48.319 was just kind of made it a ware over the 130 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:50.120 weekend that he's not going to get the title and 131 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:52.759 he's not going to get the run and that he 132 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:55.839 he fucked himself out of the opportunity by having a 133 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:58.079 match that wasn't to Shawn Michael's liking when they met 134 00:05:58.079 --> 00:05:59.519 at SummerSlam nineteen ninety six. 135 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:00.720 So pathetic. 136 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:03.319 And this the same Vader who has, you know, a 137 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:06.079 fate intertwined with Sids from the Tag Team in WCW 138 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:09.319 in ninety three, to sure being the guy that tried 139 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:11.879 to help close the wound and the stabbing incident in 140 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:15.480 the England hotel room a hotel, I should say, so 141 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:19.040 just remarkable that it once again comes down to Sid 142 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:21.319 in Vader. They finally meet in the ring, and in 143 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:23.839 Sid is the one that pulls ahead in the race 144 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:26.240 to become the top guy in the WWF. And we 145 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:29.800 all know, we all know how impactful that win was 146 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:32.360 at Madison Square Garden in November nineteen ninety six. We 147 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:35.639 all know what we tasted and what we felt, and 148 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:39.480 we're going to revisit it here as we essentially serendipitously 149 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:42.079 pick up where we left off right around Buried Alive 150 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:45.800 October nineteen ninety six, which is so true, and this 151 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:48.879 I'm realizing as we go, this will make a really 152 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:51.879 nice addendum to our ninety seven journey, which, as you 153 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:55.519 will call, we launched rather stealthily by covering Roy Rummel 154 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:57.839 nineteen ninety seven, without making any kind of a big 155 00:06:57.879 --> 00:06:59.360 production out of the fact that we were going to 156 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:02.160 march stomatically through every pay per view WWF pay per 157 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:03.720 view of nineteen ninety seven until we got to the 158 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:08.319 Montreal Survivor series and you know we Sid gets short 159 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:11.680 shrift in that Montreal story, right, Yes, yes he does, 160 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:15.079 but he's there. He's kind of like, he's kind of like, no, 161 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:18.240 he's not there. No, not not when the Survivor series happens. 162 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:20.519 But I'm talking about when he's yeah, when he's yeah, 163 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:22.079 he is, he's I mean, he's a major part of that. 164 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:25.759 He's a major part of the company until the summer, and. 165 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:31.040 He's part of you know, the Sean Brett tensions that 166 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:33.439 that spill from the screen to the back and vice versa, 167 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:37.160 that they kind of revolve around Sid in this title win, 168 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:39.240 you know when Sid goes away pardon me, when Sean 169 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:41.680 goes away having lost his smile. It was supposed to 170 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:44.519 be said that he lost the strap back to when 171 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:46.879 Brett has his absolute breakdown in the ring on that 172 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:49.279 famous Raw episode and says this is bullshit and shoves 173 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:51.480 Vince on the ground and punches Pat Patterson. He was 174 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:53.480 in the steel cage match with Sid on that show. 175 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:56.800 As we're about to talk about old, think about the 176 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:59.600 fact that you know that the show we're actually going 177 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:02.199 to deep introducing the first deep dive of the Sid 178 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:04.199 tribute here. The next time We're with you next week 179 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:07.839 on the Sid tribute the February nineteen ninety seven raw 180 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:10.839 where Brett loses the strap back and it becomes very 181 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:12.480 clear that it's not to be Brett and Sewan at 182 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:14.959 WrestleMania thirteen, who does he lose the strap to Sid 183 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:18.639 for sid second WWF Championship win. You think about the 184 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:21.279 Alamodome and all the significance of that around the Brett 185 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:23.480 Sean thing, and how it was to get Sean back 186 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:27.759 into you know, pole position after so many fans seem 187 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:30.160 to turn on him at that Survivor series. It's Sid 188 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:32.559 and they're in the Alamodome with him as the nexus. 189 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:35.320 I'm not saying Sid is the centerpiece, but he's there. 190 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:37.600 He's the guy that all this is happening around while 191 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:40.320 he just kind of stands. They're all orbiting around him. 192 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:42.919 He's the Sun and he's just standing there expressionless. That's 193 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:43.600 what I picture. 194 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:51.200 I mean, he's you know, that's a leet. If he 195 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:53.480 were if he were the Sun, if he were the 196 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:56.480 center of the universe something like that, he would he 197 00:08:56.840 --> 00:09:00.720 no pun intended, He'd be just off in spacebsolutely would be. 198 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:02.759 He would have no idea that there were things circling 199 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:04.639 around him, he'd just be completely lost. 200 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:06.919 And I'm not sure that's an inaccurate description of the man. 201 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:10.320 I mean really, as this all takes place, he's just like, 202 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:12.159 we're I'm I going to get a run, Like he's 203 00:09:12.159 --> 00:09:14.639 oblivious to the fact that the only thing that matters 204 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:19.600 is Shawn and Brett. Like this title when we're picture. 205 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:19.960 We're off it. 206 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:20.360 In this. 207 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:27.440 We're gonna play what About Me? Exactly right exactly. It's like, 208 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:29.279 are you listening to the TV? We're about to march 209 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:30.919 through it systematically. This is going to be one of 210 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:33.759 the finer tooth combs of this whole Sid tribute because 211 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:37.759 we want to really tie together Survivors Series ninety six 212 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:41.480 and him winning the belt back for the show that 213 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:43.519 we're going to deep dive the raw after the final 214 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:45.559 four pay per view in February nineteen ninety seven. We're 215 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:48.320 going to basically listen to everything Sid did for the 216 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:50.039 period of time where he could have been framed as 217 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:52.720 the top guy, as the WWF champion, and when you 218 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:54.399 go back and listen to it, Boss, it's like they 219 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:55.840 hardly talk about the guy. 220 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:57.080 Oh yeah, he's nothing. 221 00:09:57.440 --> 00:09:59.679 I mean, Sean Michaels is on commentary when he loses 222 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:02.840 the time to Undertaker at WrestleMania thirteen, and the whole 223 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:05.120 story is like, what if Shawn Michaels think about Undertaker 224 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:08.039 versus Sid. It's not that Sid is main eventing WrestleMania, 225 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:10.559 defending the title. Undertaker is about to win the title 226 00:10:10.600 --> 00:10:13.240 for the first time at WrestleMania. It's hardly about that. 227 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:15.600 It's just about Sean running his mouth almost. 228 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:18.159 The entire second time. The second time at. 229 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:20.720 WrestleMania, I said, oh, oh, I see what you mean, 230 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:23.559 and just running his mouth the entire time, like Sewan 231 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:27.080 is just he's just blabbing over all of Sid's segments 232 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:31.279 from Surrider's Series ninety six until the ray after Final Four, 233 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:33.399 all the way through WrestleMania. 234 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:35.679 In fact, I don't to see what's problem is. 235 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:37.960 And when it's not Sean, it's Brett, you know, and 236 00:10:38.039 --> 00:10:40.519 his grievances and his feud with Steve Austin kind of 237 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:43.919 overwhelming Sid's segments on Monday Night Raw as well. But 238 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:46.639 we're about to transition. I'm gonna ask you a question. 239 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:49.000 I mean, you talk about we talk about Sid kind 240 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:51.639 of unwittingly being in the middle of all this when 241 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:54.440 they make that fateful switch from the Monday Night Raw 242 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:56.480 and the design and the graphics and the look and 243 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:59.279 presentation from ninety three and switch over to Raw his 244 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:01.879 War and that heart core look and presentation. Who's the 245 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:03.559 first guy through the curtain on that first show? 246 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:05.399 Sid? 247 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:13.519 It's Sid. That's absolutely correct. Yeah, I mean, come on, folks. 248 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:15.039 It's just listen. He's he's just a weird He's such 249 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:17.200 a weird entity that he's always there. 250 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:19.120 It's always there, and he ends up in these pole 251 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:22.279 positions and it doesn't really ever seem to be quite 252 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:25.799 by design. It's almost like happenstance, you know, like he's oh, 253 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:28.200 totally You think about the pretense he was brought in 254 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:30.480 in ninety one in the first place, with WWF about 255 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:32.840 being this top babyface as Hogan's about to, you know, 256 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:34.639 take a hiatus to get away from the scrutiny and 257 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:37.039 do some movies. And by the time it's over, Yeah, 258 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:38.720 he's in the Wrestlmini made event. But he's like a 259 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:42.360 totally different presentation yep, than what we've been led to 260 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:43.840 believe was in mind for him in the first place. 261 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:45.679 And what actually is reflected in the way he's booked, 262 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:48.039 not only in SummerSlam ninety one, but on that very 263 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:49.559 first match we ever saw that he did in a 264 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:52.919 taping against Teddy Biasse. He's like totally working like a 265 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:55.799 guy who's going to be a world champion babyface, bumping 266 00:11:55.840 --> 00:12:00.679 and feeding and doing all that stuff, like yeah, definitely 267 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:04.600 definitely feeding, Definitely definitely feeding. They bring him in to 268 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:08.200 be a tag team wrestler in eighty nine in WCWNWA, 269 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:11.159 and he just like absolutely captivates the crowd and pretty 270 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:12.919 much is the main event of Hollyween Havoc nineteen. He 271 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:15.240 is the main event of Halloween Havoc nineteen ninety but 272 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:19.320 pretty much without any foregone plan in that direction. I mean, 273 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:21.559 no one would have marked him as being in that 274 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:24.840 position as recently as he had just come into the 275 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:26.720 company his first national television run. 276 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:28.320 I mean, this is the story of Sid. 277 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:30.720 He just and he ends up making all this money 278 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:34.159 and he never really is the reason the money's being 279 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:37.279 generated around him. But he's still there, he's still in 280 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:38.879 the picture. He could still lay claim to being a 281 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:41.120 key face of it all. And it's really it's a 282 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:44.519 fascinating career and I'm positive we didn't spend enough time 283 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:46.960 thinking about Sid when we did the ninety seven journey, 284 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:48.679 and now we get to focus in. 285 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:51.600 Definitely did not. I mean no, there's no chance in 286 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:55.480 hell that we that we spent any any real time 287 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:58.000 on him, And so he talked about it outside of 288 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.240 his matches. He probably got more, he probably got more 289 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:04.559 attention during the dive of each show than actually you 290 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:06.000 know 's actually talking about him. 291 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:08.360 Absolutely, and I think we spent most of our time 292 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:11.720 just trying to peace out and tease out, you know, 293 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:14.879 the subtleties and everything Brett and Sean said on WWF television, 294 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:17.399 and how you can start to start to feel the 295 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:19.919 kettle boil between those two. You can start to see 296 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:22.519 the remarks toward each other get more pointed and more 297 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:26.240 sort of out of character for a typical WWF microphone showdown, 298 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:29.879 and you start we're just like doing a forensic examination 299 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:32.799 of how the Brett Sean thing just fell apart from 300 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:35.799 being relatively on the same page going into WrestleMania twelve 301 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:37.679 to not even being able to be in the same 302 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:42.000 room with each other by WrestleMania thirteen. And yes, Sid's there, 303 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:45.080 but there's no way we spent any time thinking about 304 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:47.039 what he did or what he said, and WWF didn't 305 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:50.399 really either. I mean he is he let himself, I think, 306 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:53.480 be tricked into thinking that if he did well as champion, 307 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:56.240 that they'd keep the strap on him. You know, well 308 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:58.840 here ' helim say that later and Bruce Pritchard and 309 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:01.320 others have squatted that away like completely ridiculous. It's like 310 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:03.279 you should have known the second you beat Sean in 311 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:06.279 the garden, Sid, that it's all about getting it back 312 00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:08.559 to Sean or to somebody else. There's it's not about 313 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.840 let's see how long we can run with Sid, and 314 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:13.879 you know, to Sid's I think SID is defensible and 315 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:16.320 saying like, well, I kind of got fucked there because 316 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:19.919 no one ever really gave me a chance. Everyone assumed 317 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:22.039 that I would get long in the tooth as a 318 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:24.399 champion and couldn't be somebody that could be a defending 319 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:26.679 champion carrying a territory for a while. And he had 320 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:29.440 certainly earned that reputation considering how many contracts he'd walked 321 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:30.879 out on by this point in time. It was not 322 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:34.080 sound business practice to really, you know, build an eighteen 323 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:36.000 month campaign around Sid or anything like that. 324 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:40.399 He might stab somebody in the fucking with scissors. 325 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:42.519 Right, But when he sits back and looks back in 326 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:44.159 his career, in the shoot interviews and stuff that he 327 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:46.600 ends up doing, it's it's not a bad point. Like 328 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:49.799 I never no one ever really found out if I 329 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:53.960 could have produced as a as a touring champion, as 330 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:55.759 a guy that you know that was given the ball, 331 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:58.320 It's it's not a bad point. I think we all 332 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:00.399 know what would have happened. But he was allowed to 333 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:02.240 basically look back on his career and say, well, we 334 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:05.240 can't say for absolute sure that I would have crashed 335 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:07.120 and burned because the second the belt was put on me, 336 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:09.559 the plan to take it off me was already in play. 337 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:12.480 And that's that's a weird position to be in. But 338 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:15.080 it did account for him having, you know, his highest 339 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:18.519 triumphs in the wrestling ring, and the moments that flashed 340 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:20.440 right to mine first when you heard about his passing 341 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:23.840 were this run, yep, this title win, and everything that 342 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:27.399 happened around it heading into a Wrestlemandia thirteen and now, 343 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.919 of course, the night after Final four, February seventeenth, nineteen 344 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:33.279 ninety seven, Monday Night Raw was live in Nashville as 345 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:36.879 the ras after pay per views still were back then. 346 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:40.200 And what do you remember? This is the first time 347 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:43.159 that WWF championship ever changed hands on Monday Night Raw. 348 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:48.799 I mean, I remember it like it was yesterday. Honest 349 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:51.279 to god. It was such a it was such a moment. 350 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:58.320 It's the first time that I can remember where I 351 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:00.600 was so excited that I got up my feet with 352 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.960 my arms in the air. That's big, I, you know. 353 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:10.440 And that's when Sid beating Brett, you know, because I 354 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:14.720 was so sick of Brett. I was so sick of Brett. 355 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:21.519 And you know when I when I when I heard 356 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:25.320 that he had won, you know. And again I didn't know. 357 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:28.480 I think I talked about this before. I didn't know 358 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:32.960 that he that that. I didn't know anything that happened 359 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:39.639 regarding Brett and uh and Sean, Like I didn't know 360 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:43.519 that Sean had fucking released the relinquished the belt. No 361 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:46.639 fucking clue I learned about that on that raw. I'm 362 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:49.840 sitting there wondering how the fuck did he become champion 363 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:54.639 when Seawan was champion last week? Right, And then you 364 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:56.600 hear about it and you see what happened, and it's 365 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:03.399 like what the fuck? And yeah, and then I and 366 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:05.839 then I was just like, oh, of course, you know, 367 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:09.240 something fucking happens, and of course they go back to Brett. 368 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:15.839 It's always fucking Brett. Here we go again. And I 369 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:18.000 was like, they're never going to change the fucking title. 370 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:21.240 They don't do that shit, They don't fucking do that. 371 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:23.720 They don't put they don't change it on TV. And 372 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:28.640 then when they did, I just it was it was glorious. Yeah, yeah, 373 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:30.200 that glorious. 374 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:32.200 At one, two, three hits different back then where the 375 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:35.359 ref actually registers an official count for a world title 376 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:38.960 change on live television. I mean even even WCW they 377 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:41.400 had done world title changes. I think when Paul White 378 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:43.440 beat flair Ford it was on Nitro, for example. But 379 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:45.599 for the most part that just didn't happen. You just 380 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:48.279 didn't get title changes world title changes on free television. 381 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:48.920 You just didn't know. 382 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:51.839 And yeah, it was it was definitely as we'll talk 383 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:53.839 about as we examined that episode of Raw, it was 384 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:56.319 definitely like their strongest bid to be like, Okay, how 385 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:58.640 can we format a show where like we drag this 386 00:17:58.680 --> 00:18:00.599 thing out and try to beat Nitro or try to 387 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:02.720 do well against Nitro. I mean, Nitro was fucking killing 388 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:06.319 him in February ninety seven. But you know, they tease 389 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:08.400 it out. They pretend they're going to open that episode 390 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:10.960 of Raw with the Sid Brett match, and then they 391 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:12.559 delay it, and then they try to bring it back 392 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:13.839 at the top of the hour, and then they delay it. 393 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:16.480 This is a two hour it's actually a very it's 394 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:17.759 a very clever. 395 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:23.759 Ratings ploy. Oh yeah, you know, the way that they 396 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:27.079 the way that they strategize it, it's actually pretty it's 397 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:31.200 pretty darn clever. Yep. You know, it's definitely it's cheap, 398 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:35.079 you know, but it's also it's also pretty clever. 399 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:37.440 And that's another thing about Sid, Like, you know, he 400 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:39.920 wasn't there when they finally caught fire and started kicking 401 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:43.680 ww's ass, but he was a key toy in the 402 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:45.720 toy box to try to figure out what does it 403 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:47.960 look like to reform that Raw to be more competitive. 404 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:50.319 He was a guy. He was he was a he 405 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:53.519 was on that chessboard of guys they moved around, and 406 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:56.599 you know, even though it didn't succeed, as we'll talk about, necessarily, 407 00:18:57.200 --> 00:18:59.559 this title win for Sid was I think a direct 408 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:04.039 offspring of the fact that WWF is trying to find 409 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:07.480 its way to compete against this WCW and Goliath that 410 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:10.039 was forming, and I'm not sure, you know, I'm not 411 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:14.200 sure Sid gets the belt. If those pressures weren't in play, 412 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:16.119 I'm not sure they would go back to him necessarily. 413 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:18.519 I think it was sort of chicken in the egg. 414 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:21.279 It was like, we need something huge on raw. It's live, 415 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:23.359 so it's not in the can, right, so we can 416 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:26.440 actually make a call on the fly about what would 417 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:30.759 be most unpredictable, And so Sid winning the title I 418 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:33.000 think probably penciled out as one of the most impactful 419 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:35.160 things they could do to see if they could make 420 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:38.400 a dent on the nWo phenomenon. So Sid again kind 421 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:41.599 of just like in an advantageous situation that really is 422 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:44.359 really none of his own doing necessarily. So you wanted 423 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:46.200 Brett to lose the title on this show because you 424 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:48.119 were sick of them going back to him, not because 425 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:50.640 he was now like two and a half months into 426 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:52.759 crying about how Steve Austin was costing. 427 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:55.359 Him every ding. No, I wanted him to turn heel 428 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:00.839 two years prior, if you remember, yeah, ninety five, after 429 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:02.319 the during the World War I was like, I was 430 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:06.079 ready for him to turn heel then, and I was 431 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:08.759 just so sick of him. I was so sick of 432 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:10.200 him always fucking winning. 433 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:11.240 You know. 434 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:14.039 It was ironic to me as a fan that he 435 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:16.440 was whining about getting screwed and I'm like, you get 436 00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:20.720 everything fucking handed to you. That was my opinion of him. Wow, 437 00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:23.119 that everything he fucking had he always gets. Like he 438 00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:26.119 was he had been the guy since ninety two, and 439 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:29.200 I was so sick of it at this point, Like 440 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:31.880 he and he always beat the guys that were my 441 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:35.559 new Hogan, right, you know, he beat you know, he 442 00:20:35.559 --> 00:20:38.799 he didn't really beat Luger, but he beat Luger in 443 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:42.799 a different way. Didn't get the fucking strap, you know, 444 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:46.599 he beat he beat Diesel, you know, and and you 445 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:50.920 know Sean losing, I mean him losing to Sean was 446 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:53.359 a big deal for me too. But this was huge. 447 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:57.640 This was huge because I just I had them. I 448 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:03.000 was not accepting of of a reality that WW was 449 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:09.160 willing to switch a belt number one that fast and 450 00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:12.079 number two on TV. Right, I was like, they're just 451 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:13.839 not going to do that, Like, get the fuck out 452 00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:14.119 of here. 453 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:18.319 It's amazing happened because of course, after he comes back 454 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:20.240 at Survivor series, the same show where said takes the 455 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:22.000 strap off Sean that we've been talking about and beat 456 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:26.519 Stone Cold and that comeback match clean afterwards, it's an 457 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.400 immediate like campaign by Austin to just constantly sneak attack 458 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:32.799 Brett Hart every single week. And so this is the 459 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:36.160 beginning of that brilliant Brett Heel character who was justified 460 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:39.079 in what he was saying. He was being wronged. He 461 00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:41.680 was being yep, you know what I mean. He was 462 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:45.119 being cheated out of opportunities to get back on track cleanly. 463 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.119 Because this guy made me happy. It made me happy 464 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:50.319 that he was being wronged. And they got it that 465 00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:53.079 they leaned in. They said, Okay, even though on paper, 466 00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:56.039 Brett's the one on the right here, the people actually 467 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:58.720 are responding strongly when Sean, when Steve Austin does this 468 00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:01.440 to Brett. So maybe Brett should just start being a 469 00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:04.839 cry baby as opposed to somebody that has like legitimate grievance. 470 00:22:05.319 --> 00:22:08.400 He's not the guy who's going to just turn the 471 00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:10.759 other cheek. He's the guy because I already felt that 472 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:13.920 he was entitled right and so now he, like you said, 473 00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:17.759 they're leaning into that they're actually having him be, you know, 474 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:20.720 play an entitled bitch. And if you don't think that 475 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:23.680 part of the psychology here, part of the psyche here 476 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:26.680 is Vince knowing that he just gave Brett a fatter 477 00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:28.440 contract than he ever thought he'd ever have to give 478 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:31.440 a rest and that that's not kind of bleeding into 479 00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:33.640 how they're presenting Brett, then you've got another thing coming. 480 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:35.960 I mean, Brett even picked up on the fact that 481 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:38.720 after that Survivors Series match, which was a great match, 482 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:41.720 they start talking on television like Brett started to look 483 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:44.200 a little tired, started to look a little rusty, started 484 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:46.960 to look like perhaps his better days were behind him. 485 00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:49.279 It immediately as soon as they signed that contract. I 486 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:52.519 feel like the process begins in the way Vince's mind works, 487 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:55.640 The process begins of trying to find flaws that don't 488 00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:59.279 justify that paycheck. You know, of course he's seeing everything 489 00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:00.759 not through the lens of what is Brett Heart doing 490 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:04.119 out there, but his Brett Heart doing enough to justify 491 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:06.720 what he was able to back me into a corner 492 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:08.480 and force me to essentially pay him. 493 00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:13.119 Honestly, there's nobody who could you know, live up to. 494 00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:16.000 That well, especially considering how poor the company's fortunes were 495 00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:18.000 at the time. I mean, Austin was up to the 496 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.880 task because he started generating revenue on par with no 497 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:23.640 other and it's like, okay, well he's clearly running. But 498 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:25.319 this is a time when they're in the fucking tank. 499 00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:28.200 And because Vince felt like Brett going to WCW would 500 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:31.559 have been like the final referendum on WWF's lifeblood, like 501 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:34.000 all right, it's over, Like they can't even keep red heart. 502 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:36.279 He went deeper into his pocket than he had that 503 00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:38.000 twenty year deal two and a half million a year, 504 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:41.799 whatever the hell it was. And and so it's it's 505 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:46.119 amazing how suddenly within weeks Brett is a cry baby 506 00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:48.799 on TV yep, and Brett is entitled, and Brett is 507 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:50.559 whining and he's really good at it because he probably 508 00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:52.400 kind of has a bit of that streak of his personality. 509 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:54.279 I'm sure they're like, oh this, you know them, it's 510 00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:56.599 always like, you know, the way the guy pisses them off. 511 00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:58.680 Behind the scenes, they find ways to sneak that into 512 00:23:58.680 --> 00:24:02.039 the television presentation, because of course, how they process someone 513 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:03.599 being able to get to them is all right, we'll 514 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:05.720 just we'll make money off the fact that we can't 515 00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:06.279 stand the guy. 516 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:08.240 I mean, look, he's being a bitch, so let's make 517 00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:11.400 him a bitch, put him on TV and right because 518 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:14.440 but Brton, I think you're a bitch, so I think 519 00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:17.480 you'll play a great bitch on TV. Let's talk about it, 520 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:22.119 let's talk about let's brainstorm. 521 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:22.880 And when they get back, you know, think about it 522 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:24.000 a Bretton Sean, go at it. 523 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:24.000 It. 524 00:24:24.119 --> 00:24:27.640 It's time that that's Sid. You know, Sid's in the mix. Sid, 525 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:29.440 that's his pay per view main event, was first ever 526 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:32.000 a pay per view title defense main event. So it's 527 00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:35.920 it's uh, it's fascinating to adjust your lens on this 528 00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:39.680 off talked about, you know, the covered ad nauseum time 529 00:24:39.720 --> 00:24:41.680 period and adjust your lens to see it through what 530 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:44.200 Sid was actually out there doing and what Sid was 531 00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:46.400 out there saying. And that's what we're gonna do here. 532 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:49.440 As we enter a pivotal point in our examination of 533 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:52.319 the career of Sid, we do have to remind you, 534 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:53.960 of course, that this is all made possible by the 535 00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:57.599 fact that there were listeners among you who aren't bitch 536 00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:00.799 asked motherfuckers, yes, who understand and that if you don't 537 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:02.039 pay for something, it dies. 538 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:05.839 And there are people who aren't entitled bitches like Brett Hart. 539 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:09.440 Right, well, we'll keep podcasting for you. We see you 540 00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:12.440 out there, but you can hardly blame us for taking 541 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:14.519 the appropriate time each and every time we take the 542 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:18.279 microphone to remind you that the only reason TLFX is here, 543 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:19.920 and the only reason we can go this hard for 544 00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:22.720 this long, is because people decide. You know what, I'm 545 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:25.680 not forced to pay for this, therefore I will, right, yes, 546 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:27.920 I'm not forced to pay for it, Therefore I will. 547 00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:31.039 And patreon dot com slash the lapsed fan is the 548 00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:32.720 way you can oil the engine and keep all this 549 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:35.799 going and get a ton in return. I mean, it's 550 00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:38.359 not just what tipjar here, folks, a ton in return, 551 00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:40.720 not the least of which boss let them fucking know 552 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:42.880 about it. I can't believe you made me watch the 553 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:47.519 latest installing in Scary movie Season under the cinemat. 554 00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:49.519 Terrified Too Motherfuckers. 555 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:51.599 Starring Chris Jericho, but also starring some of the most 556 00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:54.440 gory and insane violence I've ever seen in cinema. 557 00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:56.839 And not only that, but I also you know, for 558 00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.200 those who who aren't a part of it, who who 559 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:03.960 missed out thus far. I also made him watch every 560 00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:08.839 single gory portion of the previous films, like the highlighted ones, 561 00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:10.720 in order to build up to the fact that we're 562 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:12.839 going to see something even worse. Well, you need context, 563 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:20.920 right exactly. Of course, context is king and controversy creates cash. 564 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:24.880 And what was the story? What was it? Arisa? 565 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.480 He had a we did it. We made a fun 566 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:29.880 of it in t n H. He had like an 567 00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:32.839 acronym for like story suspense. 568 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:35.960 I'll find it. Oh he did, Yes, he did. A 569 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:40.480 fucking idiot, But we got one more when we're coming up. 570 00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:43.039 We're going to take a week off this week and 571 00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:47.359 we're going to bring to you on Halloween Day proper 572 00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:52.640 and absolutely one of the best. And that's all I'm 573 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:57.200 gonna say. It's one of the best. And I'm I 574 00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:01.039 am so fucking excited. You want to talk about SARSA. 575 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:07.480 You want to talk about story, anticipation, reality, suspense and 576 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:12.440 action or surprise and action. Sorry, we're talking about the 577 00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:16.240 capper for Scary Movie Season twenty twenty four under the 578 00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:17.240 cinemat And. 579 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.519 Then we'll bring it back and we will conclude our 580 00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:23.000 James Bond journey during November and inciting times. 581 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:25.440 Mpasize if you could. When can folks expect that final 582 00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:26.839 scary movie season installment? 583 00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:33.880 Halloween? Halloween Night, Halloween Day? Oh, Halloween. Halloween's on a 584 00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:36.119 weekday this week? Right, Yeah, it's on Thursday. 585 00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:38.279 So you know what to do, solar system, Right, you're 586 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.359 at work. You know, Halloween when it falls on a workday, 587 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:44.519 no one takes work that seriously, you know how to 588 00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:47.079 dial yourself in for trick or treating that night when 589 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:48.480 you're at the at the cubicle. 590 00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:52.240 Bring That's all I gotta say is bring those fucking earbuds. 591 00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:55.039 Yeah, make sure those sons of bitches are charged. On 592 00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:55.880 All Hallows Eve. 593 00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:00.519 It's going to be It's I can't wait. I honestly, 594 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.359 I can't wait for your reaction. That's what I can't 595 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:04.960 wait for. That's gonna be the fun part. 596 00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:06.839 Yeah, don't forget folks, I don't know the movie. 597 00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:10.960 Yeah, no, I keep it a very very very deep, 598 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:14.640 dark secret until we reveal it. It's actually kind of 599 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:19.359 funny because in a weird way, they all know the 600 00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:21.920 movie before you know the movie, because obviously the movie 601 00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:24.880 is must I'm going like for a complete surprise. The 602 00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:28.519 movie obviously is in the episode title, and then you know, 603 00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:31.240 then you get surprised, right right. It's really cool. It's 604 00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:33.960 actually fun. I always like that about it me too. Yeah. 605 00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:37.759 I love not really knowing what I'm prepared for. I 606 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:39.920 remember when you surprised me last Christmas movie season with 607 00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:42.960 It's a Wonderful Life, Yeah, and I like basically had 608 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:44.839 to say hold on and I had to run upstairs and 609 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:47.279 get my It's a Wonderful Life book because I have 610 00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:52.319 no idea. I'm like hustling looking through the bookcase. So 611 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:54.000 I can't wait for that too. I mean, that's that's 612 00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:55.200 too far around the corner. 613 00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:58.839 It's right there, It's right there. Cap off the Bond 614 00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:01.440 Journey Christmas movie. I mean, come on, folks, what the 615 00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:04.119 fuck is wrong with you? Like, just you know what 616 00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:04.480 to do? 617 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:09.039 And further to the Christmas point, by the way, that 618 00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:13.440 seriously fuck you for terrifier too. I cannot I saw 619 00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:15.960 the art the clown mask in a Halloween store and 620 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:16.440 I was like. 621 00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:19.599 Yeah, you can't unsee that shit. It's all over the place. 622 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:21.480 I'm standing in the aisle in a trance looking at 623 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:23.240 his mask like I'm four years old again. 624 00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:28.680 Yeah, he's a petrifying individual petrifying. 625 00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:29.880 And I'm like thinking to myself, like, when is it 626 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.039 ever okay to show that to somebody else? You know, 627 00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:35.480 like even an adult, I'd hesitate to say you need 628 00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:35.880 to see this. 629 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:40.400 It's almost like I've got a friend who, like he'd 630 00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:42.839 never seen it before, he'd never seen any of them before. 631 00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.920 And he had a buddy who was like, I want 632 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:47.519 to take you to go see Terrifier three, but you 633 00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:50.559 got to watch the other ones to get up to speed, 634 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:55.839 and he was just completely grossed out by how nasty 635 00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:56.839 it was. 636 00:29:56.839 --> 00:29:59.240 Was he just actually hesitant to even go to the 637 00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:00.039 theater and see it. 638 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.319 No, no, he wanted to, but he was worrying, why 639 00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:04.440 why do I want to go? 640 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:07.799 It's not unlike wrestling. It's like a secret language of like, 641 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:10.839 you know, terrifier. Yeah, Like you have to look at 642 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.640 someone and be like, Okay, they enjoy it for what 643 00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:15.920 it is, and they're not going to judge me when 644 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.440 I you know, when I tell them that I watched it, 645 00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:18.759 you know. 646 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.079 And it's also like once you know, you know, situation 647 00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:25.640 if you know you know, and that's that's it with Terrifying. 648 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:27.799 Well, the key scene from part one that you made 649 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:29.799 me watch from the first movie. 650 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:30.880 You know. 651 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:32.680 I was talking to people saying, like, did you see 652 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:34.000 the scene in the first one? You have to see 653 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:38.799 you have say anything else. Either they know or they don't, 654 00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:41.279 And if they don't, it's not really appropriate to start 655 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:41.920 describing it. 656 00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:45.680 No, it's not. But if they do, it's like they've 657 00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:49.000 It's like it's shared trauma, is what it is. 658 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.759 It's shared trauma. And it's something that was full on, 659 00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:58.000 full throttle lap serendipity in that people started putting together 660 00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:02.200 in real time that this qualify just as we had 661 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:03.759 made plans already to record it. 662 00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:09.160 And let me tell you, so that was actually planned. 663 00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:14.880 So keep in mind everything that has happened on Scary 664 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.960 Movie Season this year was intended for last year because 665 00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.160 but then I booked that play and I just I 666 00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:23.960 didn't have time to put it all together. But all 667 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:25.799 this was scheduled for last year, so it was like 668 00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:29.359 already there, and it was already in place, and I 669 00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:32.400 was already set to go, and then I had to 670 00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.039 push it off. I'm like, all right, well, well, just you know, 671 00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:37.160 I'll push it off to next year. So Terrifier too 672 00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:42.119 was in play last year. Amazing let alone the fact 673 00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:45.480 that there's a sequel out right now, you know, that's 674 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.000 also the kicker, that there's a fucking sequel out as 675 00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:50.119 we're you know, as we were recording it, I had 676 00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:52.599 no fucking idea there was a sequel being made. 677 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.319 It's it's not for the faint of heart. No, it's 678 00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:58.599 not one that I encourage people to watch the movie 679 00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:01.039 as we watch it with us. I mean, for some 680 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:04.880 our description will be plenty, but you know, do so. 681 00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.160 For some even if you. Some of the comments too 682 00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:09.720 were like, you know, I thought that just listening to 683 00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:12.480 the audio would be okay, But it's as bad. It's 684 00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:13.880 as bad. It's as bad. 685 00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:16.079 Ye when you hear like the suffering and the screaming 686 00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:18.960 absolutely and the blood chortling noises. 687 00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:35.839 It's the La Fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that 688 00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:39.440 knows the boys need their candy. It's the lapsed Fan. 689 00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:58.039 He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno 690 00:32:58.519 --> 00:32:59.440 m JP soro. 691 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:00.240 Yeah. 692 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.440 And that's another thing, the comments like we don't sell 693 00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:06.240 that enough. So much fun to watch Solar System members 694 00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:08.839 go back and forth on comments underneath the audio files 695 00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:11.960 on Patreon, but you can't really participate in unless you pledge. 696 00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.240 But it's so fun man to see what people pick 697 00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:17.680 up on some of the notes people make, some of 698 00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:20.839 the corrections, some of the extra resources people point you to. 699 00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:24.359 It's like, so it's so gratifying to do all that 700 00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:26.680 work to put it out and then everyone just picks 701 00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:28.480 up the ball and tries to make it even better. 702 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:32.920 Oh yeah, it's amazing. So it's absolutely amazing. It's so 703 00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.759 it is very gratifying when all that happens. 704 00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.960 It's how we know it's real and long may continue. 705 00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.759 And it's a busy schedule because on the monthly premium 706 00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:45.279 live event calls that we do of the modern WWE shows, 707 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:48.119 that's starting to kick into a year. On another level, 708 00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:50.680 you've got Crown Jewel and you've got sur River Series November. 709 00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:52.960 Of course, the River Series always a big show right 710 00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.160 around Turkey Day, so I'm sure we're going to be 711 00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:58.160 fat and happy going into that one. It looks like 712 00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:00.880 they're going to do the Saturday Night's Main Event as 713 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:03.240 a December p l E the return of snm E, 714 00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:06.279 so that that qualifies. 715 00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:11.360 Yeah, it does. Live College doesn't. Uh Yeah, Live College indeed, 716 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:15.519 Live College Podcast. You're damn right, So we're looking forward 717 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:20.239 to that. As mentioned, Scary movie season becomes James Bond 718 00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.320 conclusion becomes Christmas movie season. 719 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:26.920 Oh yes, Wrestle Mamia. Wrestle Mamia. Wrestle Mamia for the 720 00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:30.440 moat tier. Only the things that are coming, the things 721 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:31.519 that are about to be unloaded. 722 00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:35.440 It's it's it's a non stop barrage of of of 723 00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:36.800 Mama sorrow. 724 00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:39.239 Yeahther around the hearth with Mama sorrow this holiday season. 725 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:41.159 I mean, what more can I say? I don't know, 726 00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:44.719 but I'll try to say more. How about that versions you. 727 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:48.760 Know, she's she's a she's a gem. Some people have 728 00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:52.039 called her a national treasure. It's saying they're wrong. I 729 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:56.320 think that's hilarious to say. But I'm not saying. You know, 730 00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:58.960 I'm not saying they're wrong. People would have just seen 731 00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.679 let me see here, I think, what's the moment. Okay, 732 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:07.440 so people, oh wow, you know this? Uh, this is 733 00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:11.519 I actually did this. I'm trying to think, Yeah, I 734 00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:21.639 did this before before we were doing Terry Funk, all right, 735 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:27.000 and I had, you know, with the idea of Halloween 736 00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:35.960 themed matches throughout October. I had my mom watch Rick 737 00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:38.159 Flair and Sting versus Terry Funk in the Great Moda 738 00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:39.800 Wow from Halloween Havock. 739 00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:42.840 I'll wait to see her reaction to the electrified cage. Yeah, 740 00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:47.599 I'm electrified of the thought. And again, for those unaware, 741 00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:50.239 that is an exclusive benefit for our Mote Tier members, 742 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.320 the highest tier members. It's it's rich for a lot 743 00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:55.480 of people's blood, and we respect that and appreciate that. 744 00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:57.880 We appreciate all of our patrons in any denomination, but 745 00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:02.079 that's a special group that deserves special treatment. And Mama 746 00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:05.400 Sorrow says everything a mother should say while watching professional 747 00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:06.280 wrestling with her son. 748 00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:07.320 That's what I'll say. 749 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:11.159 And if that's your if that's something that appeals to you, 750 00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:12.679 if you know kind of what we're saying when we 751 00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.159 say that, you might want to even just sample the 752 00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:17.079 vote Tier to get to get a flavor of what's 753 00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:20.360 going on with Wrestle Mamia. But add free versions. 754 00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:20.519 Of the show. 755 00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:22.559 You get deep dives or part twos a day before 756 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:27.320 anybody else does. There's absolutely no arguing the utility of it, 757 00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:29.719 and we thank everybody deeply for their support. On on 758 00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:35.440 patreon dot com slash the Lapsed Fan. There is also 759 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.159 there's also I don't know there there's there's an anticipation 760 00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:43.039 in the year there's a big vote coming up, is 761 00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:47.280 there not. Yes, there is probably the most important vote 762 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:50.079 of most of our lifetimes. I would agree it's the 763 00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:54.400 most important vote. It is the tlf X Games King 764 00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:57.480 of the Cast. We are down to four competitors to 765 00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:00.840 determine the greatest character in the history of the Lapsed 766 00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:03.880 Fan podcast has voted on via X by all of 767 00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.320 you out there in listenership land. It has come down 768 00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:10.679 colapsed Jesse Ventura versus lapsed Kevin Nash on one side, 769 00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:13.519 and on the other side, lapsed tell In Hart versus 770 00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:19.440 lapsed Vince. And we've already delivered somewhat of a sizzle 771 00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:21.719 reel to the feed for those that are trying to 772 00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:25.840 get a flavor from Highlights Pass. And I was crying 773 00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:28.480 listening to some of them, crying listening back to some 774 00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:30.920 of the things, some of the words we have put 775 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.000 in those characters' mouth sposs over the years. 776 00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:39.840 I actually I'm always you know, I always say, and 777 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:43.039 we've said it a million times that with how how 778 00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:46.880 long these shows go and how long we record, that 779 00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:49.800 shit literally comes out of the mouth and it's forgotten. 780 00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:52.840 That's just the way it is, just the nature of 781 00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:57.079 the beast. It's very rare that something and actually most 782 00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:02.760 often something reads not because we did it, but because 783 00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:05.440 it resonates with all of you. 784 00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.840 And we hear about it. It comes back to us. Right, 785 00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:10.960 It's a great it's a great mechanism to determine like 786 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:14.119 what really what really was gold is? Like do we 787 00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:14.960 hear about it again? 788 00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:25.440 Yep? And I I I was, I sat there like 789 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:27.960 I cannot. I mean, honestly, it was. It was hard 790 00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:32.000 choosing things because you're like, well, wait a minute, there's this, 791 00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:36.760 and then I'm I didn't know where to go. Sometimes 792 00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:37.239 well you go. 793 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.079 In thinking, you know, you go in thinking, you know 794 00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:41.519 the high points based on what gets set back to 795 00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:43.639 you the most, what gets referenced back to you the most, 796 00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:45.519 if you know, like a Twitter thread about what's the 797 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:47.440 greatest thing or what should I start? If I getting 798 00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:49.679 into the podcast and those things, and over time those 799 00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:51.519 kind of cows find your mind. It's like, okay, like 800 00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:53.880 we'll put it to the people, like it's not my 801 00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:55.480 sense of what the best stuff was, it's what do 802 00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:59.199 people always mention when I asked independent of us and 803 00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:00.639 and then you get in you'll wait a minute, But 804 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:02.559 this is not one of those. And this is funnier 805 00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:04.719 than all that shit. Yeah yeah, and I totally forgot 806 00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:06.599 about it, and the listenership didn't put it on the 807 00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.719 mount rushmore and it's like this is fun this is better. 808 00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:12.280 Or or to the point that I didn't even know 809 00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:15.000 this existed. That's the part that's always. 810 00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:16.480 Well, that's part of why it's better is because you 811 00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:18.119 don't even know where. You forgot where it's going. It's 812 00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:20.719 new to you even though you said it. Yeah, I 813 00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.159 mean you got to think about sometimes us like getting 814 00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:26.320 delirious at two thirty in the morning, like we're we're 815 00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:29.719 not always uh, we don't always have full control of 816 00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.159 our faculties. No, And I'm not only just talking about 817 00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:35.199 when Boss gets drunk and falls asleep on the live calls. 818 00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:39.320 I'm talking about just any old regular episode of the 819 00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:41.599 show where we're just marching through all the material we've 820 00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:43.559 prepared and it gets us, it gets a little ridiculous, 821 00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:43.840 you know. 822 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:46.679 Yeah, yeah, it does. You know, there comes a moment 823 00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:50.760 where it's like I don't even you know, I'm just gone. 824 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.719 I'm just completely gone, and like simpy, like say, and 825 00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:56.679 you know it's it's uncontrollable. 826 00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:01.280 It's uncontrollable and U and we had a great time. 827 00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:03.880 We're visiting all of that and kind of resurfacing kind 828 00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:05.920 of the heart of some of these characters. You know, 829 00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:08.360 it would have been way too tall of in order 830 00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:11.320 to do that with all thirty two participants in the 831 00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:13.440 very beginning of this tournament, but we've whittled it down. 832 00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:15.719 Now is the time to buckle in and make a 833 00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:18.320 real decision here and keep it locked to our X 834 00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:21.039 account and our socials for information on when the vote's 835 00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.440 going to drop and when you're going to get your 836 00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:25.719 chance to decide who the final two are. I mean, 837 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:27.719 it doesn't get more t LFX than this, It really 838 00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.760 does not. And we need to send a hearty thank 839 00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:34.000 you to our friends over at Garage Beer who have 840 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.400 helped make all this effort worth it to put together 841 00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:39.760 this tournament for everybody and to deliver as we have 842 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.679 so very very appropriate and very exciting. As the X 843 00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:49.800 Games continues, two unfold on X appropriately enough, and we're 844 00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:53.039 heading into the holiday season and it's now officially starting 845 00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:57.239 to feel a little late. Just to send us yeah, 846 00:40:57.559 --> 00:40:59.599 the gifts qualifying you for the show. I mean, Boss 847 00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:01.559 gets out that post office as much as you can, 848 00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:03.920 but I mean it's it's getting tight. 849 00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:04.440 We gotta put it. 850 00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:05.880 We gotta put a data on the calendar soon when 851 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.519 we're gonna get together around the Christmas hearth and open 852 00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:10.440 gifts from you the Solar System for the third annual 853 00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:14.039 Lapsed Fan Christmas Show. The best fucking thing on any 854 00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:15.880 podcast anywhere as far as I'm concerned. 855 00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.320 Absolutely, there's no question about it. I mean they're a 856 00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:27.320 mix of of like funny, thoughtful, and ridiculous. That's perfectly 857 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.119 and what more, what more do you need? 858 00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:33.159 That's a lapsed Christmas to me? Yeah, dare I say 859 00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:39.639 elapsed Xmas brother ten years in? I mean that's what 860 00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:43.639 we're looking at. Damn right, tlf X mess I'm here, 861 00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:46.760 Damn right, you're here, and you can be part of 862 00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:49.920 the show as we sit together, uh to unwrap gifts 863 00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:51.880 from the Solar System and just react to what we're 864 00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.039 seeing and just revel on the fact that you know, 865 00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:55.599 I think more than anything, it's not that this is 866 00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:58.480 the greatest thing on any podcast. It it speaks to 867 00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:00.679 the power of podcasting more than than any other thing. 868 00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:03.280 I think you could you could record agreed, because this 869 00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:05.840 is all made possible by the fact that we've taken 870 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.599 to the mic and had had You know, we're given 871 00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.199 reasons to believe that if we kept going we would 872 00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.679 find kindred spirits out there. We would find people who 873 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:18.239 were like, yes, this is what I need in my life. 874 00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:21.239 Here's the proof that I mean it when I say that. 875 00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.039 And as these packages come into the post office box, 876 00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:26.880 it's just such a such a heartwarming reminder that we 877 00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:30.400 are doing something that that really brings the good out 878 00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:33.280 in people and the best out. Yeah, and again, please 879 00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.000 don't overdo it like we've been blown away. And we 880 00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:38.719 all know that part of the magic of Christmas is excess. 881 00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:42.079 But man, we don't need four things from everybody. I mean, 882 00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:43.719 if you really feel you need to send it to us, 883 00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:45.519 if you have like a you know, if it's part 884 00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:47.280 of the execution of the gift, I mean, don't. We're 885 00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:49.519 not going to discourage people. But man, we always end 886 00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:50.840 up with way more than we know to do it. 887 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:53.000 Oh god, it's it's unbelievable. 888 00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:55.480 You gotta remember we have to do something with this stuff. 889 00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:58.159 Aver we parcel things out aboundst each other, we're like, 890 00:42:58.159 --> 00:42:58.800 what are you doing this? 891 00:42:58.840 --> 00:42:59.519 What are you do with this? 892 00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:03.199 It's it's quite it's quite an experience. 893 00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:05.639 The consumables are one thing I'll accept and accept and 894 00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.159 really accept the fact that some ship's going to get 895 00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:11.599 burned over time. Yeah, or that night, no burned. Hey, 896 00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:13.519 you're going to send us a Jeff Hardy cut out, 897 00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:16.320 a cardboard cutout. It's going right in the fucking fire. 898 00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:19.920 Last year, boss Man literally burned a fat headset. 899 00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:21.679 I ever post that video on him. If I post 900 00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:23.639 that video, you know I haven't seen it, so there's 901 00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:25.719 no way to take the whole thing. I should will 902 00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:26.599 put that up around Christmas. 903 00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:28.679 Yeah, that'll be a reminder last year at this time, 904 00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:33.000 talk about the hearth, right, damn right. Maybe if there's 905 00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:35.159 anything burnable we get this year, we have to save 906 00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:37.719 it and burn it during recording of next year, and 907 00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:39.639 that'll be our fire, our fireplace. 908 00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:42.000 Of course, that means I get to keep it great. 909 00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:44.119 And we know that came from the homie Big Steve, 910 00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:47.480 who also gave us Jerry Lawler half naked with. 911 00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:49.920 Yeah, which got me almost in trouble with my wife. 912 00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.400 I mean, he already told us that this one's a doozy, 913 00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:57.559 and he's it's on the way. We've been informed and 914 00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:59.280 so if you want to be part of this, you 915 00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:01.360 probably just have a a week or two to get in. 916 00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:03.480 Every yeah, I will conveniently not make it to the 917 00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:07.320 uh yeah, the po anytime soon time the par officer 918 00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:09.119 of course, you mean, yeah, right. 919 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:12.000 The address to send us your Christmas packages is the 920 00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:15.320 lapsed Fan seven to ten Main Street, south PO, Box 921 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:19.599 one one nine, Southbury, Connecticut, zero six four eight eight. Again, 922 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.519 the lapsed Fan seven ten Main Street, south PO, Box 923 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:26.079 one one nine, Southbury, s O U T H b 924 00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:30.400 U R Y, Connecticut, zero six four eight eight. And 925 00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:33.360 we really look forward to gathering around. And it's because 926 00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:35.280 of you that we do it. You know, it's like yep, 927 00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:39.599 it's guaranteed time in the same room, which creates creates 928 00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:42.960 a certain podcast alchemy and magic that is very hard 929 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.079 to create over our distant connection here. 930 00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:46.800 What we've been in this right, and it doesn't you know, 931 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.559 it doesn't happen as much as it used to. So 932 00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:50.599 that's right, that's right. 933 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.679 Life is life is intense, life is insane. But because 934 00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:55.880 we know you mean business, we mean business. It's not 935 00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:58.639 more complicated than that. So we look forward to that 936 00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:01.960 and uh, it's stef only time to up the urgency 937 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:04.079 around getting in because I know folks really would like 938 00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:06.800 to have their gifts in our hands so they can 939 00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:08.800 get our in person reaction as opposed to, you know, 940 00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:10.960 weeks later we connect remotely and then open it over 941 00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:13.239 a video chat, which we feel obliged to do because 942 00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:14.960 people were kind enough to take the time and send. 943 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:18.800 But you are missing that magic window where you really 944 00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:22.000 get that organic reaction. So that's your thing. Those are 945 00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.679 your directions. And if you're starting to think about stocking 946 00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:26.559 stuff first for the lapsed fan in your life or 947 00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:29.000 things to put on your own personal list, we have 948 00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:31.840 no shortage of shwag available at Pro Wrestling Teas dot com, 949 00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:34.360 Slash the Lapsed Fan, and our store. 950 00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.719 Over at Chopped Teas. Boss Yes, and. 951 00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:39.239 As we embark on a further examination on the life 952 00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:41.760 and times of Sid, the Vienna shirts I think are 953 00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:43.400 going to be a real hit this Christmas season. 954 00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:45.239 Oh I think so. I think everyone's going to be 955 00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:48.320 in the hunt for some Vienna's. Come what's up there? 956 00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:52.119 Let them know come Christmas, we got a couple and 957 00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:54.639 you know, it's it's so hard to keep track. Two 958 00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:57.239 of all, I have a list on my phone of 959 00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:02.039 the things that I need to get to produce. So 960 00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:05.679 hopefully before Christmas, all that stuff will be all those 961 00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:07.400 shirts will be up there, so you guys can get 962 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:08.480 on it. Yeah, don't don't. 963 00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:10.159 Don't lose sight of the fact that in the Progresling 964 00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:12.679 Tea store, this stuff is hand drawn by the boss. 965 00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.760 Like he Yeah, he personally creates the look of the shirt. 966 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:19.760 Yeah. And you know it's like it's it's it's good, 967 00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.320 it's bad, it doesn't matter. But right now we got obviously, 968 00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.559 we got Sid's Vienna's. We got Sid's actual Vicious Viennas 969 00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:32.880 sausages available, uh to to swallow. And we'll also have. 970 00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:36.039 The and I send him an autograph picture. 971 00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:43.519 And then there's a course, the the the Saint Vincent's 972 00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.360 softball shirt softball team, which is the team sponsored by 973 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:49.119 Sid's Vicious Vienna's. 974 00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:51.599 Well, we definitely have Sid's Memphis Church in our hearts 975 00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:52.840 and minds this Christmas squad. 976 00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:56.280 Let's just say that for now, and not not to 977 00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:58.400 mention the fact that we also have an old one 978 00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:02.760 Sid's softball squad. Yes, that's an older bit ye sponsored 979 00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:08.199 by Michler's Deli, Sterling Golden Pharmaceuticals and I am the 980 00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:16.119 s m A. Youve got to need it, and the 981 00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:21.199 incredible line of other uh uh with with you know. 982 00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:24.800 You know what I love, honestly is that sometimes I 983 00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:26.320 look back at the shirts and I'm like, I know 984 00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:30.599 that meant something, but I don't know what, Like, like, 985 00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:33.480 I'm looking a bit could have this one right here. Okay, 986 00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:35.960 it's a gray shirt with three p's on it and 987 00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:43.000 it says Paradigm Partner Platforms. I don't know what I remember. 988 00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:45.199 I remember like thinking, oh, I got to make a 989 00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:47.079 shirt out of that, but I don't know why, Like, 990 00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:48.079 I don't know what that is. 991 00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:51.280 That's a mission for our pals at lasts, you know, 992 00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:53.599 they can look that one up because it's it's hard, 993 00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:57.119 it's hard to remember all this stuff. But yeah, sometimes 994 00:47:57.159 --> 00:47:58.599 it just occurs to us. It's just like making a 995 00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:00.519 shirt that was fucking that was a weird moment. And 996 00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:04.039 sometimes it's a minute and a half that spawns a shirt. 997 00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:06.159 Sometimes it's an entire journey that spawns a shirt. But 998 00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:08.480 you damn right, definitely a lot to consider, and if 999 00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:11.039 you're if you're looking for something sort of upscale and 1000 00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:13.679 price in terms of like you know, the kind of 1001 00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:17.559 like specialty gear that you can wear outside of just 1002 00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:19.400 like a T shirt. You do need to check out 1003 00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:21.800 our chopp stores. The Homie Dicky is just doing incredible 1004 00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:24.599 work and the stuff he's putting up there is just like, 1005 00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:28.239 it's so flattering to see a pail of that level 1006 00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:31.440 and quality, from jackets to hoodies to hats, all that 1007 00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:34.159 stuff is with the logo on it is amazing. 1008 00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:38.159 And to you know, be able to finally produce shirts that, 1009 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:42.559 you know, for reasons beyond our control, were denied by 1010 00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.000 Yes pro wrestling teas and be able to have shit 1011 00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:47.639 up there, that is just I mean, I can't. It's 1012 00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:51.480 absolutely breathtaking to see the ship that he's created, let 1013 00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:54.880 alone the Kreme de la Creme, the Piece the Resistance, 1014 00:48:56.199 --> 00:48:59.800 the Wonderful, the Wonderful Varsity jacket. 1015 00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.480 As Bark uncovering the first Raw is War where those 1016 00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:06.280 jackets were created. That's right, so amazing stuff over in 1017 00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:09.280 the chop Tea store as well. Cameo if you want 1018 00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:11.400 to put your co chairs to work, but mostly the 1019 00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:16.000 boss yeah, honestly, and just you know, decide laps can 1020 00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:17.480 and put words in the mouthls of some of the 1021 00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:19.719 Rogue's gallery of lapsed characters, or just have your co 1022 00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:23.239 chairman send holiday greetings or anything else, happy birthday wishes, 1023 00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:25.440 whatever the case may be. Cameo dot com slash the 1024 00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:28.039 Lapsed Fan is the place to do that. And one 1025 00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:31.000 last piece of business on this front, shout out to Gabe. 1026 00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:33.039 We've been trying to keep you up to date on 1027 00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:36.679 Gabe's condition. You know, we've shared the information about the 1028 00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:38.960 GoFundMe to help his family out as he went through 1029 00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:43.400 open heart surgery. As we understand it, the procedure is complete, 1030 00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:46.599 he is home, he is recovering. It is a slog 1031 00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:49.039 I read a recent post of his, and you know, 1032 00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:51.599 the fatigue is unlike any It is unlike no other. 1033 00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.880 You know, you can't imagine, I really cannot imagine. 1034 00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:58.400 Just your home. You're recuperating, but you can't you can't 1035 00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:00.719 behave as if you're back on track for a lot 1036 00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:03.079 longer than I think people would probably appreciate having not 1037 00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:05.440 gone through something like this. So the long and short 1038 00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:07.360 of it is, we're we're thrilled that one of the 1039 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:09.639 great lapsed fans of all time is on the mend 1040 00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:12.679 and came out the other side of this thing. But 1041 00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.559 further do keep them in mind this Christmas season, and 1042 00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:19.519 if you find it in your heart earn your wallet 1043 00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:21.280 to help, or help even more than you already have. 1044 00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.199 Just go to Google, type and Gabe Yoakam go fund 1045 00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:27.519 me fundraiser Yoakum is yocum and see if the solar 1046 00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.840 system can't help make it, you know, a successful Christmas 1047 00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:34.559 over there for those fine folks. That's what we're about, 1048 00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.760 that's what we're here to do. And the reason the 1049 00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.559 reason we're in a position to call out things like 1050 00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:43.920 that is because we podcast, and we podcast hard. Oh yeah, 1051 00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:45.760 And I think it's time to pick up the most 1052 00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:49.199 significant and medi part of the Psycho One's career, don't you, boss. 1053 00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.360 I think this is what we've all been waiting for, 1054 00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:57.880 the Revolutionary One. That's what Lutionary one too for them. 1055 00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:00.840 That's when no one's run down. So yet I issued 1056 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:03.079 the call. I said, why do I think they used 1057 00:51:03.079 --> 00:51:05.880 to call sid the Revolutionary One on WWE television and 1058 00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:08.000 no one's found any example of it, So I just 1059 00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:12.320 apparently made it up like VK Thunderliker as I do 1060 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:14.920 feel like you did tell me you made it up. Well, 1061 00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:15.360 I had to. 1062 00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:19.239 I had to conclude that because yeah, I've never found 1063 00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:21.199 I feel like I've watched everything back by this point 1064 00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:23.280 that he did that I would have would have remembered. 1065 00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:25.400 You know, I'm not saying I watched everything he ever did, 1066 00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:28.480 but I didn't watch everything back when I was that age. 1067 00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:30.960 I mean we're talking seven eight years old, so there's 1068 00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:33.199 only so many shows that would have left that imprint 1069 00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:37.599 on my mind. Of course, and we talked about Sid 1070 00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.000 in Vader at Buried Alive and in a shoot interview 1071 00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:41.719 that Sid did with our video he got he got 1072 00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:43.360 more into it than we even did on the Buried 1073 00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:46.239 a Live episode. In terms of how the Chess piece 1074 00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:48.320 has moved around to put Sid in position to become 1075 00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:51.280 champion at the end of nineteen ninety six that there's 1076 00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:52.840 been I think people that have kind of poop pooed 1077 00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:56.000 the notion that Vader was actually going to win the championship. 1078 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:58.519 I'm pretty sure Bruce Is kind of said on his 1079 00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:01.440 podcast that the idea that it was set in stone 1080 00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:03.639 Vader was going to take the title and headline Survivor 1081 00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:06.480 series as kind of overstated. But that's not how Sid 1082 00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:09.719 puts it and here's here's what's going to get us 1083 00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:12.559 oriented heading into his big November ninety sixth victory. 1084 00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:16.320 Yeah, I'll give you. You know, I don't think a 1085 00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:19.199 lot of people remember this. What they call that was 1086 00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:23.320 a tweener are in between baby face and hill, and 1087 00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:25.599 that was somebody who could work with baby faces in hills. 1088 00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:28.320 I was the very first one really to take that 1089 00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:31.960 roll on when I won the belt from Sahn Michaels 1090 00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:33.639 and what it was, I was told I was going 1091 00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:36.320 to be a baby face for extended period of time 1092 00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:39.599 and after that he'll etcetera, etcetera. Well, you know a 1093 00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:41.400 lot of people realize actually that was supposed to have 1094 00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:44.280 been Sean and Vader in that match, But I had 1095 00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:47.039 worked with Vader in a house show at the Gardens 1096 00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:51.920 prior to that and got such a reaction from the people. 1097 00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:54.920 When I walked out, Vince was standing there. I knew 1098 00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:56.960 without a word that he changed his mind. Who was 1099 00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:59.199 going to be in that spot. No, they came to 1100 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:01.400 me said, we're gonna put this. You know, we're gonna 1101 00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:03.639 Vader go over tonight because we'll go next time we're here. 1102 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:07.800 He's gonna be beating Hunk and then at the pay 1103 00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:10.920 per view in Indianapolis, you'll put Vader over to, you know, 1104 00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:13.320 for him to meet Shine at SummerSlam. I said, fine, 1105 00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:16.199 you know that's that's perfect, you know. And so when 1106 00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:19.000 I walked out that night to the walkway there I 1107 00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:22.400 looked in Vince's face, I knew it was changed. So 1108 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.840 the month or so later, when Indianapolis get ready for 1109 00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:28.079 the pay per view and they pulled me over the side, hey, 1110 00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:30.320 things have changed, and I too, I told them what 1111 00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:31.239 things have changed to. 1112 00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:33.519 I knew it. You know, you just get those kind 1113 00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:34.119 of feelings. 1114 00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:36.960 Yeah, and you actually did the tweener role as well 1115 00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:40.159 in the middle of the bratt Hard Steve Austin stuff too. 1116 00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:43.199 Right and uh and that was that was a little 1117 00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.519 you know for me too. As a hill when it 1118 00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:48.880 was just hills and just baby faces. I was always 1119 00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:52.039 a twiner, especially up in the Northern market. I was 1120 00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:55.679 always perceived or cheered, and the baby faces hated that, 1121 00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:57.039 you know, having to work with a guy. 1122 00:53:57.599 --> 00:53:57.800 You know. 1123 00:53:57.960 --> 00:53:59.639 And I don't know if you know this yourself, but 1124 00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:01.559 you know, if you're a baby face and you got 1125 00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:04.559 ten thousand people cheering, you got one person booing you, 1126 00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:08.440 it really grows mine, not mine. It doesn't bother some people. 1127 00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:11.960 I've seen people like Bill Goldbert just literally go nuts. 1128 00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:15.599 Customed person shut up, I say, hey, man, And then 1129 00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:17.400 he's working with me and we'd get north and more 1130 00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:21.440 people doo him. But no, I always I like that. 1131 00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:24.000 You know, as a Hill, it's acceptable, you know, you 1132 00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:27.239 accept the cheers in the boost. But that was That's 1133 00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:28.800 always been my favorite rose to Hill. 1134 00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:31.320 Did you find that with Shawn when you are working 1135 00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:33.679 with Sean back then, that he would get real frazzled 1136 00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:35.480 when the crowdits are going nuts. 1137 00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:38.679 For you, not Sean, not Sean, notice Sean. Sean was up. 1138 00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:42.679 I don't know if people know Sean as well or not. 1139 00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:45.760 Sean is a real He's a giver. He gives out, 1140 00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:48.400 you know, he gives to you. He makes me you know, 1141 00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:50.480 like when we were Triple Threat matches me and him 1142 00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:52.960 and Brett. You know, I'm not saying I said before 1143 00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:54.800 working with Brett was like pulling teeth. 1144 00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:56.239 He said that in the last shoot interview. 1145 00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:58.960 Yeah, and Sean when he saw that me and Sean 1146 00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:00.719 would look at each other. We just so I say, hey, 1147 00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:03.880 we'll work around this, and Sean would go out of 1148 00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:05.880 his way to really make me look super cool in 1149 00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:07.920 the match. I do the same for him, and we 1150 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:09.119 do the same for Bed as well. 1151 00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:11.800 So Sid as tweener, I mean, this is the role. 1152 00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:13.199 This is the ultimate example of that. 1153 00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:17.239 Oh yeah, I mean, I mean I also I don't 1154 00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:20.320 agree with him being the first tweener at all. I 1155 00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:23.039 think I think it was definitely mashed the year prior. 1156 00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:26.960 But you know, I mean, my fucking Paul Orndorff was 1157 00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:28.679 a tweener when he was shooting with the Hogan. I 1158 00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:31.719 mean it was like, oh was he I don't know. Yeah, yeah, 1159 00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:33.800 There's always been tweeners on the roster. It's just a 1160 00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:36.960 question of who do they turn their attention to. You know, 1161 00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:39.039 all it takes for a heel to become a tweener 1162 00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:42.320 is have him do nothing different but attack a heel 1163 00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:43.719 instead of a babyface. 1164 00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:47.480 Right right exactly? Well yeah, or or to not give 1165 00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:49.679 a shit about either. One really is what it is. 1166 00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:52.920 And in many ways that was like that was Austin too, 1167 00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:56.519 you know, in around this period. You know, he was 1168 00:55:56.599 --> 00:55:58.440 very much a tweener and people were getting behind him, 1169 00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:00.360 but he wasn't a babyface for sure. 1170 00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:02.639 And that's another way Sids in concentric circles with this 1171 00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:05.599 whole rising moment is that he's kind of a tweener 1172 00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:07.760 that's setting a bit of the table for the Steve 1173 00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:10.920 Austin tweener in that he's he's kind of showing that 1174 00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.440 the audience is out there that will cheer when somebody 1175 00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:16.199 does something like hyper violent to a goodie two shoes 1176 00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:20.320 babyface yep, and they'll go with them. And Steve, you know, 1177 00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:21.760 when he comes out to wrestle Bret Hart on that 1178 00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:23.960 same show, Survivors Series nineteen ninety six, he does have 1179 00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:26.880 vocal crowd support, but it's not yet. That Garden telling 1180 00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:29.840 Vince like, no, this is the babyface or this is 1181 00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:32.480 the guy we care about hadn't quite reached that point, 1182 00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:34.559 whereas it had with Sid earlier in the night, and 1183 00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:36.880 I think indicated that there was, you know, a stronger 1184 00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:39.159 It wasn't just contrarianism. It was like, no, this is 1185 00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:41.639 where the bulk of your hardest core fans, your New 1186 00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:44.719 York fans want the company to go in terms of 1187 00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:48.159 like structuring who's featured and whose babies and who's heels. 1188 00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:51.039 And that's a huge night for that reason more than 1189 00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:52.800 anything else. When Sid wins the bet and gets that 1190 00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:54.679 kind of a response for doing it, even though he, 1191 00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:58.239 you know, brings Jose Lafario in storyline of course, to 1192 00:56:58.239 --> 00:56:59.599 the brink of heart attack and hits him with a 1193 00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:01.920 television camera and does dastardly things to get there. No 1194 00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:04.280 one gives a fuck and who who's doing that? To 1195 00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:09.119 massive superstardom within weeks Steve Austin yep, just absolutely losing 1196 00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:12.280 his mind, swinging anything he can get his hands on 1197 00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:14.159 at Brett Hart and getting cheered even stronger for it 1198 00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:17.280 every time he does it. So it's it's really interesting 1199 00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:19.039 to think about it that way. And then there side 1200 00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:21.519 is straight up confirming like it was in Indianapolis, the 1201 00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:23.719 city where Buried Alive took place, that he gets the 1202 00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:26.239 word He said that when he went to the curtain 1203 00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:28.159 there in the garden once and he realized the crowd 1204 00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:29.800 was with him, that it was going to be him 1205 00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:31.039 and not Invader, and there was going to be a 1206 00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:33.639 switch of the plans there. Yeah, I don't think Sid 1207 00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:35.679 remembers it all the way down to what city he 1208 00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:37.800 was informed of the change in plans if there never 1209 00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:39.199 was a plan in the first place. 1210 00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:40.599 To build up Vader he does. 1211 00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:43.320 Yeah, so what does he do? What does Sid do? 1212 00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:46.159 He beat Sean at Survivors Series. And we've talked about 1213 00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:48.280 it before and it's only appropriate here in the Sid 1214 00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:50.920 tribute we talk about it again. First the sights and 1215 00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:52.440 sounds from the garden that night. 1216 00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:59.440 And Sid was an opportunity here to finish it. 1217 00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:02.920 S just marry it, finish it, it said, hits it, 1218 00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:03.719 HiT's over. 1219 00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:05.079 We got a new champion. 1220 00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:21.840 I can't believe it. 1221 00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:28.840 Let's sing tell out Sid. 1222 00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:34.400 I can't believe it. 1223 00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:42.000 Son, don't say there's a new time w champion. 1224 00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:44.599 But time I donna take care last. 1225 00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:49.760 Don Michael's mother, n it miss Bettorn, this trainer, it's 1226 00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:55.159 fully hood maybe having some serious medical problems here. 1227 00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:01.519 Shun is trying to help. Well, could he be maybe 1228 00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:03.119 more of a hindrances. 1229 00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:08.280 And as you said, I certainly hope that that is. 1230 00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:22.280 Heart damage. Talking barely Kay walk Josey's heart because they damage. 1231 00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:23.639 Jade is broken. 1232 00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:28.360 And in the ring. 1233 00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:40.079 Stands the new World Wrestling Federation Champion, the man who 1234 00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:45.599 now will face Wret the hitman. 1235 00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:53.400 Heart that ghost said rules the World Wrestling Federation. 1236 00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:58.679 On November than seventeenth, nineteen ninety six, and Ladies and 1237 00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:04.679 Gentlemen Survivors series has been nothing short of extraordinary. 1238 01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:07.039 We invite you to join us. 1239 01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:12.159 On December fifteen, and Christmas might be coming early for Brent. 1240 01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:16.400 They hit Man Heart who goes now one on one 1241 01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:18.400 with the rating. 1242 01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:23.519 World Wrestling Federation Champion Pacholl said. 1243 01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:26.400 Who would have ever thought this would have happened? 1244 01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:29.480 Anything? Anything could happen. 1245 01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:34.159 In the World Rustling Federation, as said Remos and his victory. 1246 01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:38.079 Sean Michael said earlier that he would. 1247 01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:42.199 Do anything to retain the title and said proved he 1248 01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:43.360 would do anything to. 1249 01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:52.639 Tell you the World Wrestling Federation Champion Psycho said. 1250 01:00:53.400 --> 01:01:09.639 He the Lapstan Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows 1251 01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:11.079 the boys need their candy. 1252 01:01:11.800 --> 01:01:12.880 It's the Lapsed Fan. 1253 01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:31.480 He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio 1254 01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:32.880 and JP Sorro. 1255 01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:39.559 What a night. Yeah, and again if you would recollections 1256 01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:42.320 of seeing that play out and hearing it again, Oh, 1257 01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:51.760 I mean I was disappointed in the fans because, you know, 1258 01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:55.239 here was a guy that I was like, He's supposed 1259 01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:58.840 to be the hero, you know, and what are you doing? 1260 01:01:59.159 --> 01:01:59.920 Why are you booing it? 1261 01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:02.159 What did he do? 1262 01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:04.519 Why are you so happy to understand that. Why are 1263 01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:06.119 you so happy when he lost? Did you hear that? 1264 01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:06.480 Right? 1265 01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:07.119 Right? 1266 01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:07.639 Oh? 1267 01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:09.400 It's huge? And what do we talk about? 1268 01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:09.559 Who? 1269 01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:13.360 Who's making the noise? The men, the guys, the guys, 1270 01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:14.400 the guys. 1271 01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:19.320 Yeah, yep, screaming over that one teenager you can hear 1272 01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:21.480 go no is the ref's about to slap three. 1273 01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:25.480 Yeah, that's that's the thing too. It's like you got 1274 01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:32.119 there is such a you know, it's it's it's younger, 1275 01:02:33.920 --> 01:02:38.280 younger kids, Like I mean, I wasn't younger, I was fifteen, 1276 01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:47.239 but you know, it's like these these much angrier, brutal 1277 01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:52.360 guys are like they're overpowering. 1278 01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:55.360 Yeah, they want to see goody two shoes squashed like 1279 01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:58.400 a fucking grape. Yeah, it's not just they get indifferent 1280 01:02:58.440 --> 01:02:59.920 to them and kind of jeer them a little bit, 1281 01:02:59.960 --> 01:03:02.480 like Hogan. No, they want to see them get fucking 1282 01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:06.400 murdered in that way exactly. And when the company gives 1283 01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:09.039 it to them, they can't help but react in a 1284 01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:11.119 guttural way. Even if the company gave it to him 1285 01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:13.920 for reasons other than satisfying them, it's almost like they 1286 01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:17.000 accidentally gave it to them in service of another agenda, 1287 01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:18.639 which is to get the strap off Sewan heading into 1288 01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:21.679 WrestleMania plans, or at least to get the strap off 1289 01:03:21.719 --> 01:03:24.280 Seawan heading into the Royal Rumble and his native San 1290 01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:28.800 Antonio at the Alamodome. Unbelievable. What a moment that was 1291 01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:31.559 and what a show that was so consequential Servivras series 1292 01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:32.679 ninety six not talked about. 1293 01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:37.360 Oh yeah, Rockage celebrated nearly enough as it as it 1294 01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:40.800 should be, for what it for, what it what it 1295 01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:42.000 really signified. 1296 01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:43.840 How wild We come back around to it here on 1297 01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:47.519 on the eve of Saurvirora series season once again here 1298 01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:51.119 this year, and and the references made there to the 1299 01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:54.079 December pay per view where Brett, by virtue of beating 1300 01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:57.360 Steve Austin earlier in the show, qualified to face the champion. 1301 01:03:57.599 --> 01:03:59.559 And you were within your rights going into Survivor Series 1302 01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:01.679 ninety six to kind of expect it to be Brett 1303 01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:02.280 and Shawn again. 1304 01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:04.800 Oh yeah, I mean, I don't think I even realized 1305 01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:08.159 that it was. I don't think I even realized what 1306 01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:17.320 that Brett was the going to be the top contendent challenger. 1307 01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:19.840 You know, I don't think I even realized that at 1308 01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:20.199 the time. 1309 01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:21.639 I don't think they spent a lot of time ahead 1310 01:04:21.639 --> 01:04:23.280 of the show emphasizing that, but I think in the 1311 01:04:23.320 --> 01:04:25.159 body of the pay per view itself they decided to 1312 01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:25.760 really lean in. 1313 01:04:27.400 --> 01:04:32.199 So it was you know, I mean, I was just 1314 01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:36.760 I was I was appalled. I was appalled and just shocked. 1315 01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:38.880 And isn't it wild how you went from appalled to 1316 01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:41.920 loving that same dynamic when it lit the fire under 1317 01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:46.880 Steve Austin. Yes, your transformation was our generation. You know, 1318 01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:49.960 we talk about the Attitude era as if like it 1319 01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:52.320 was a generation after the one that we celebrate so 1320 01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:54.119 much that really led to the record business. And the 1321 01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:56.360 fans of the late nineties were the one. They were 1322 01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:56.719 all us. 1323 01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:57.480 We were just older. 1324 01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:02.199 Yeah, it's not different, same fans, same fans that remembered 1325 01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:04.559 it as like a kid thing tanemount to a Saturday 1326 01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:08.280 Morning cartoon, in the same category as Captain Planet almost yep. 1327 01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:11.599 And now it's like we're in a different place. Culture 1328 01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:13.199 is in a different place. We're looking for something a 1329 01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:15.199 little edgier, and what do you know, wrestling is willing 1330 01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:16.880 to give it to us. But it's the same people. 1331 01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:20.400 It's the same group of fans. I mean, yes, there 1332 01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:23.639 are new youngsters watching wrestling in the Attitude era that 1333 01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:27.679 weren't alive or were you know, babies in ninety one, 1334 01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:32.159 ninety two or ninety But man, it was people that 1335 01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:33.880 were like, holy shit, this is what wrestling is now 1336 01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:36.360 because they had something to compare it to. And when 1337 01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:39.320 you're oh, exactly having that reaction to Sid beating Sean, 1338 01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:42.400 that's coming from a place of having learned what wrestling 1339 01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:45.800 is supposed to be in the late eighties and early nineties. 1340 01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:47.880 Yeah, I guess I would say, you know, in a 1341 01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:53.920 weird way, that is that might have been a much 1342 01:05:54.079 --> 01:06:01.280 more significant moment in I fandom that I really give 1343 01:06:01.320 --> 01:06:04.199 it credit for. Yeah, as we're talking about it, because 1344 01:06:05.239 --> 01:06:13.920 after that, I definitely paid attention more to what the 1345 01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:19.440 fans were saying, right and what people were reacting to. 1346 01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:20.159 Right. 1347 01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:23.400 The reaction wasn't a give and it wasn't like, oh, man, 1348 01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:25.519 this happens, and of course people are cheering. I don't 1349 01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:28.400 even need to note it because that's logical. That's a 1350 01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:32.239 logical reaction. But when people start reacting illogically, you're right, 1351 01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:34.480 you start to pay a lot more attention to how 1352 01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:36.519 the people are receiving it because you realize that this 1353 01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:40.519 audience isn't calibrated like you are, right, The truth is 1354 01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:42.400 they're just ahead of you. They know where you're going 1355 01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:45.320 to end up, right, you know, as as a maturing 1356 01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:48.559 wrestling fan in that era. But it's a remarkable night 1357 01:06:48.639 --> 01:06:51.840 Sid becoming WWF champion for the very first time there 1358 01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:54.679 and you heard it at this Fiber series nineteen ninety 1359 01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:57.480 six and here he is in a shooting interview on 1360 01:06:57.559 --> 01:07:00.519 the whole dynamic of Sean Michael's getting boot is the 1361 01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:03.920 babyface by virtue of that of that program in that match. 1362 01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:07.199 Yeah, you see, there's a big difference, you know, when 1363 01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:11.719 you get everything inded to you in which I never 1364 01:07:11.800 --> 01:07:14.719 got to push. I would run into a situation I 1365 01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:17.159 see the businesses is bring a guy in, you'll give 1366 01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:17.719 them a chance. 1367 01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:18.039 To get over. 1368 01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:18.679 I would. 1369 01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:20.639 I came in right away my very first match as 1370 01:07:20.760 --> 01:07:23.400 man event. I know, you know that was my argument. 1371 01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:26.199 But give me time to you know, let me, you know, 1372 01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:30.960 go six months you know, as a just killing people 1373 01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:34.320 or whatever. You know, people like Dusty and only did 1374 01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:36.719 with me. And that's how I got over, you know, 1375 01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:41.000 And it was like it didn't it takes more than 1376 01:07:41.039 --> 01:07:43.320 a week. It takes six months to a year. And 1377 01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:44.880 I don't care who you are. I mean, I'm lucky 1378 01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:46.880 I could draw money a little bit right away. But 1379 01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:51.280 if I would get really the chance, and in my opinion, 1380 01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:53.199 if I was the baby face and we had really 1381 01:07:53.199 --> 01:07:56.159 built data up, I think we would do more business. 1382 01:07:56.239 --> 01:07:58.639 And the company's ever seen in a long time. 1383 01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:02.079 Was was management surprised about? 1384 01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:02.400 However? 1385 01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:05.119 You were in the garden, Oh I see. 1386 01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:07.119 See. 1387 01:08:07.239 --> 01:08:15.199 Some of the agents cried, I love that. 1388 01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:18.600 My gosh, you know, you know they were so upset 1389 01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:22.399 for shot, I guess, but it was pretty funny. 1390 01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:25.079 It was like he was generally snapped at that point too, 1391 01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:27.720 because he was going around the house shows and going 1392 01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:29.359 off when he was getting booed, because it seemed like 1393 01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:32.159 at that point he was more and more. Was there 1394 01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:35.399 any resentment from him personally towards you. He never showed 1395 01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:37.319 me to my face, you know. 1396 01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:42.680 And you know, me and Sean I had pretty good 1397 01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:45.239 relationships as far as I looked back at him. He's 1398 01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:47.439 always courteous to me. I was was courtious to him, 1399 01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:52.960 respected each other, He helped each other out. He was 1400 01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:54.520 too tired to do a meet and great I did 1401 01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:56.159 it for him. If I was too tired. He did 1402 01:08:56.159 --> 01:09:01.159 it for me things like that, So, I uh, I 1403 01:09:01.359 --> 01:09:04.920 know there was some kind of weird calls behind my back, 1404 01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:08.439 but you know that that's always going to happen. And 1405 01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:12.560 if you can't get that, then you shouldn't be in 1406 01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:13.039 the business. 1407 01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:16.279 What's kind of weird there? What hit your ear? Well, 1408 01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:20.520 like it's someone doing meet and greets for Sean. It's 1409 01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:24.399 like if he's too tired, It's like, well, if people 1410 01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:27.399 are expecting you Shawn Michael's meet and greet, that ain't 1411 01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:30.199 necessarily exciting when Sid shows, No, I mean it's better 1412 01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:33.119 than nothing. But I get your point, and the same 1413 01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:37.279 thing with the other way around, like you know, yeah, 1414 01:09:37.439 --> 01:09:39.239 I don't know that's it's well, you know whatever. 1415 01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:41.439 And you know what he means by too tired, right, 1416 01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:46.199 what getting later drunk and high? Drunk and high, yes, 1417 01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:48.920 of course, not getting to bed till five thirty in 1418 01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:53.159 the morning. So because they're mature adults, Well, I think 1419 01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:55.319 that's the takeaway. I think by the time we're done 1420 01:09:55.319 --> 01:09:56.800 with this tribut, we're going to realize that the business 1421 01:09:56.800 --> 01:09:58.439 is full of mature adults. I think that's going to 1422 01:09:59.439 --> 01:10:01.479 I think it's gonn be the big surprise revelation of 1423 01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:04.560 this whole thing. Right, yeah, I agree, But there he 1424 01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:07.039 is talking about how you know, the six month thing 1425 01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:09.399 and how captive a window. This is just of Sid 1426 01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:13.039 getting the spotlight and giving us even a sense of 1427 01:10:13.159 --> 01:10:15.720 like what could have been almost and you know, no 1428 01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:18.560 blowback from Sean, like yeah, because sew knew the whole time, 1429 01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:20.600 then he's going to get it back from you, right 1430 01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:22.319 he's now of course he's not going to consider you 1431 01:10:22.359 --> 01:10:24.199 a threat. You're just a nexus to get this big 1432 01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:28.399 moment in the Almaldome. So yeah, of course you didn't 1433 01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:30.479 catch the wrath because they never went with you. But 1434 01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:33.159 if they decided to go with you past royal rumble, 1435 01:10:33.479 --> 01:10:35.399 if they said Sean actually were going to put Sid over, 1436 01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:40.279 Sid would have been a Sewn's biggest enemy. 1437 01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:42.399 In the world. Oh absolutely, So. 1438 01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:44.399 Again we have this captive period of time where it's 1439 01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:46.840 where Sid is the man, he's the champion, and you 1440 01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:49.119 can reasonably, you know, start to talk about him as 1441 01:10:49.159 --> 01:10:52.319 like the most important person on the show. And in 1442 01:10:52.439 --> 01:10:56.079 that vein the World Wrestling Federation produces an issue of 1443 01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:59.600 what they used to call spotlight. Oh yeah, what can 1444 01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:00.800 you tell the people about spotlight? 1445 01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:07.520 Spotlight was a it was a I don't know what 1446 01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:12.199 you'd call it, but it was not a a regular magazine. 1447 01:11:12.399 --> 01:11:13.720 It wasn't a monthly magazine. 1448 01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:13.880 Right. 1449 01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:17.760 It came out maybe a couple of times. It might 1450 01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:21.479 have been quarterly or maybe, I don't know, I'm not 1451 01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:24.880 sure how often. It seems sporadic, but yeah, it was 1452 01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:30.520 basically they would use it to, I don't know, highlight 1453 01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:33.359 somebody that probably needed highlighting. 1454 01:11:33.039 --> 01:11:37.600 Right, Yeah, it was basically you know they're not dead, 1455 01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:39.479 of course, but you know when someone dies, like Time 1456 01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:41.279 magazine will come out with an issue that's about their 1457 01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:43.960 life in Times, yeah, that'll sell because people are in 1458 01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:46.720 the mood to learn about that person and you've taken 1459 01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:48.680 their legacy. And when someone gets a massive push or 1460 01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:51.840 wins the title, they would put a spotlight out to, 1461 01:11:52.359 --> 01:11:55.119 you know, lead fans to think about the the arc 1462 01:11:55.239 --> 01:11:55.720 of this person. 1463 01:11:55.800 --> 01:11:57.760 And they even did Woe with Hogan for that matter. 1464 01:11:57.880 --> 01:11:59.520 You know, they did them with Hogan in ninety three, 1465 01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:02.079 right when he came back, they had they had a 1466 01:12:02.119 --> 01:12:06.399 Spotlight issue right around the time, maybe a little bit 1467 01:12:06.439 --> 01:12:13.119 after he had his first uh, his his return w 1468 01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:18.359 magazine issue. Did you pick that one up? Oh, fuck you, 1469 01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:22.239 I did excellent, absolutely no fucking whim missing that one. 1470 01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:24.960 And so just the fact that they would do one 1471 01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:29.520 said something on you. Yeah, yeah, it's not really you know, 1472 01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:34.600 small beans. They do it about We're talking Warrior, Hogan Brett, Demolition, 1473 01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:37.920 Jake Deebers. They did one in an L O. D. 1474 01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:42.600 And Andre, they did some one of the Steiners and Diesel. 1475 01:12:43.479 --> 01:12:45.680 You know, like, if you weren't it's very unlikely, if 1476 01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:48.079 you weren't in contention for a belt in WWF, that 1477 01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:50.840 they would think about doing a spotlight about you at 1478 01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:53.680 the very least. And so the one on the one 1479 01:12:53.720 --> 01:12:55.600 on Sid, if I'm not mistaken, is the last one 1480 01:12:55.640 --> 01:12:56.119 they ever did. 1481 01:12:57.159 --> 01:12:58.279 No kidding, I didn't know that. 1482 01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:01.039 And it's a famous one because it's famous because it 1483 01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:03.119 has that picture of Sid holding a globe in his 1484 01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:05.680 hand of the world. Yes, yes, And that's a picture 1485 01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:08.880 that's always circulated when it comes to like yeah, it's 1486 01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:11.800 just a really colorful image and it's very evocative around 1487 01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:14.079 like what Sid was and the character they wanted to 1488 01:13:14.199 --> 01:13:16.039 portray him as. It's kind of like, you know, master 1489 01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:17.520 of the World has got the world in his hands, 1490 01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:18.960 but he's also got to look on his face like 1491 01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:22.159 he's like he's having a perverse enjoyment holding the world 1492 01:13:22.239 --> 01:13:23.399 in his hand, right. 1493 01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:26.039 As you should. Really, if you are the master and 1494 01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:29.039 rule of the world, you should have a perverse enjoyment 1495 01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:29.640 of it with a. 1496 01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:34.359 Really you know, uh, strange enthusiastic and wild expression on 1497 01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:36.880 his face, very colorful look on his face. 1498 01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:40.720 Oh sweet. Like we like characters, you know, big fan 1499 01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:46.039 of characters, and you know, the larger than life individuality. 1500 01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:49.119 So the fact they have characterization of characters, but we'll 1501 01:13:49.119 --> 01:13:51.319 get into that, because the fact that they did one 1502 01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:53.159 said something, but what they said in the pages of 1503 01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:55.239 it meant even more. And this is from the pen 1504 01:13:55.279 --> 01:13:57.439 of Vince Russo himself when he was writing for the magazine, 1505 01:13:57.479 --> 01:13:59.960 still splitting his time between writing for the magazine and 1506 01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:03.279 running for television before you know, the full throttle takeover 1507 01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:05.279 of creative And so what we're gonna do is we're 1508 01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:07.600 gonna march through it because this is really this is 1509 01:14:07.680 --> 01:14:10.399 a document that tells us, I think the most about 1510 01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:13.239 how WWF was thinking of sid in his place in 1511 01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:16.359 the pantheon when they strapped him up. And so here 1512 01:14:16.399 --> 01:14:20.239 we go through the pages of Spotlight, and I'll guide 1513 01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:23.000 you here a little bit boss in terms of not 1514 01:14:23.159 --> 01:14:25.399 every last thing that we're going to read, right, but 1515 01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:28.760 there's that image on the cover. They're advertising the upcoming 1516 01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:32.760 Royal Rumble and Vince Russo Boss has a word for 1517 01:14:33.800 --> 01:14:37.720 readers right off the top letter from the editor, Well 1518 01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:38.479 you should read that one. 1519 01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:41.560 In the history of the World Wrestling Federation, there has 1520 01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:46.520 never been a champion quite like Psycho Sid, with one 1521 01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:49.560 of the most impressive physiques in the sport today or 1522 01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:54.039 ever for that matter. The man from West Memphis, Arkansas 1523 01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:59.039 finally exploded his potential at the nineteen ninety six Survivor 1524 01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:02.840 Series when he defeated Shawn Michaels en route to becoming 1525 01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:06.000 the World Wrestling Federation Champion. Up until that point in 1526 01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:09.760 his career, bro critics always knew that Sid would be great, 1527 01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:16.000 but the question most frequently asked was when Sid first 1528 01:15:16.119 --> 01:15:19.560 entered the World Wrestling Federation in nineteen ninety one as 1529 01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:23.640 a young man who was relatively new to the wrestling business. 1530 01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:29.199 Bro later on, relatively Yeah, I guess three years experience, 1531 01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:32.920 four years experience, then that counts as relatively new. Really, 1532 01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:36.720 later on he would admit that he may have been 1533 01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:42.279 just too green. Both mentally and emotionally to be able 1534 01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:46.920 to cope with the big time. Immediately following WrestleMania eight, 1535 01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:51.239 Sid disappeared from the Federation. This is interesting because they 1536 01:15:51.239 --> 01:15:52.920 didn't talk a lot about his first run when. 1537 01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:54.680 He came back. No, not at all. 1538 01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:57.399 So this magazine is, you know, trying to do something 1539 01:15:57.479 --> 01:15:59.520 that they didn't do on television, which is remind you 1540 01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:03.600 that this guy had a prior incarnation, right right, and 1541 01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:07.479 try to thread those two runs together from the Federation, 1542 01:16:07.640 --> 01:16:11.119 only to return some three years later in February ninety 1543 01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:15.720 five as the bodyguard of Shawn Michaels. Once again. After 1544 01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:18.920 only a short stay, Sid left the Federation in early 1545 01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:22.720 nineteen ninety six. Early nineteen ninety six. 1546 01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:26.239 I mean, I guess maybe he could have been January 1547 01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:27.479 ninety six he left. I don't know. 1548 01:16:27.560 --> 01:16:29.159 Yeah, he was off television, but yeah, I think I 1549 01:16:29.199 --> 01:16:30.960 think that might be right. He may have done how 1550 01:16:31.039 --> 01:16:33.960 shows until the beginning of ninety six. The third time, however, 1551 01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:36.399 seemed to be a charm for the man now referred 1552 01:16:36.399 --> 01:16:39.359 to as Psycho. After returning to the Federation in July, 1553 01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:41.800 this time to team with the former enemy Shawn Michaels, 1554 01:16:42.239 --> 01:16:45.600 a mature and season, Sid silenced all his critics by 1555 01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:49.279 beating his ex boss at the Brawl Classic, thus becoming 1556 01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:53.239 the champion they would now call Sid. As of press time, 1557 01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:55.880 SID certainly does rule the world all caps, like he 1558 01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:59.920 tweets today, all caps and how great this individual can be. 1559 01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:02.880 He is yet to be determined, I can say that again, 1560 01:17:04.439 --> 01:17:09.319 however predetermined. However, one thing remains certain. He is the 1561 01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:14.920 master and the ruler of the world. Okay, So we 1562 01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:18.000 start flipping through and they do a piece going back 1563 01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:21.119 to Spring ninety one and the arrival of Sid, and 1564 01:17:21.199 --> 01:17:24.319 we see him in the Zebra stripes at Summer Slam 1565 01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:26.720 ninety one, and they're talking about Slaughter and Hogan. They 1566 01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:28.600 talk about to Hogan when he's in WCW. 1567 01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:31.640 They didn't do a lot of that now I remember 1568 01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:36.800 in like ninety five ninety six they started really changing 1569 01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:41.720 that and sharing talking talking about history and talking about 1570 01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:45.039 people who were in WCW right and or at least 1571 01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:48.800 weren't even working for them, right. So they take us 1572 01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:50.760 from there and they go through the match Made in 1573 01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:53.880 Hell at SummerSlam and the interference in the wedding and 1574 01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:57.319 the feud with Jake, and then they go through of 1575 01:17:57.399 --> 01:18:00.359 course the nineteen ninety two Royal Rumble and show picture 1576 01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:02.600 of that with him facing off with the Hogan and 1577 01:18:02.640 --> 01:18:04.520 auld they hear it. Let me see what they say here. 1578 01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:08.239 They were things being a changer and the ciilmonated some 1579 01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:10.960 of his most hated enemies, even liminated Hall Cogan, a 1580 01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:12.800 man he considered a frema. Sid was aware of the 1581 01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:16.640 Rumos' most basic tenants. There are no friends. That is 1582 01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:20.319 an event in which every man fights for himself. I 1583 01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:23.439 had the opportunities to get rid of Hogan, and that's 1584 01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:26.119 what I did. I didn't care. I didn't care what 1585 01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:28.800 any would hear, anybody else would say about it. 1586 01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:32.199 You're calling me and that's a quote sort from the 1587 01:18:32.239 --> 01:18:34.119 old magazine. That's all I'm talking now. 1588 01:18:35.359 --> 01:18:37.479 And then he talks about Yeah, they don't okay, they 1589 01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:42.239 don't really talk about I'm surprised. Usually usually around this time, 1590 01:18:42.319 --> 01:18:46.000 if they were talking about Hogan, they'd take a little jab, 1591 01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:52.239 like like he says he deserved what he got. Sid 1592 01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:56.399 says of Hogan, Yeah kind of, no, I guess, I guess, 1593 01:18:57.079 --> 01:19:00.720 but but it's still like they would they would say 1594 01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:03.840 like that Hulk Hogan was a coward. By pulling Sid 1595 01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:06.560 out from Ah, you know, like they would they would, 1596 01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:09.000 they would, they would kind of they would always belittle 1597 01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:09.640 Hogan a little bit. 1598 01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:11.520 This's what you're looking for, and it was the beginning 1599 01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:13.439 of the end of Hulk Hogan. The man has never 1600 01:19:13.520 --> 01:19:17.319 been the same since Wreslomania eight kind of. But that's 1601 01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:18.680 still not it Like, that's not hard to know. 1602 01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:20.520 They would they would have, they would have made they 1603 01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:23.439 would have brought to attention the fact that the fans 1604 01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:26.920 cheered for Sid right and boot Hulk Hogan right in 1605 01:19:27.039 --> 01:19:29.439 that that's what they would have That's what they would 1606 01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:31.720 have done. But I mean, even but they do they 1607 01:19:32.039 --> 01:19:34.079 kind of go in gear and they say, you know, 1608 01:19:34.279 --> 01:19:37.960 downward spot on Hogan's career. Bloody, bloody blah. 1609 01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:41.319 But and it describes the end of this run in 1610 01:19:41.359 --> 01:19:43.359 this article as days after the event wrestleming he Ate, 1611 01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:47.640 without warning or notice, Sid vanished from the World Wrestling Federation. Vanished, Yeah, 1612 01:19:48.039 --> 01:19:49.880 and it says he went in he went into self 1613 01:19:49.880 --> 01:19:52.359 imposed exile for the next three years until returning to 1614 01:19:52.399 --> 01:19:54.000 the Federation early nineteen ninety five. 1615 01:19:54.279 --> 01:19:55.720 Would he go on an island or something? 1616 01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:58.239 Well during his hiatus ad reads many say that's when 1617 01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:02.920 he transformed into a complete, albeit popular psycho, and then 1618 01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:04.319 they go through a period of his life where he's 1619 01:20:04.359 --> 01:20:06.760 the bodyguard of Seawann Michaels, and they recount all of that, 1620 01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:10.399 and as we did last week, go through WrestleMania and 1621 01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:12.600 show him in the vest and jeans backing up Sean 1622 01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:15.560 Yep and that big promo and the big heel turn 1623 01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:23.039 and all of that, and they flash forward from there 1624 01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:27.760 to the interview with Keith Elliott Greenberg. And this is 1625 01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:31.399 to get into Sid's head while gripping the Gold Eagle, 1626 01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:35.880 the Winged Eagle WWF title belt. I'll be Keith, you 1627 01:20:35.960 --> 01:20:39.760 b Sid. World Wrestling Federation Champion Shawn Michaels, reportedly at 1628 01:20:39.760 --> 01:20:41.560 the peak of his career, had been dethroned by his 1629 01:20:41.680 --> 01:20:45.680 former bodyguard Sid. Overnight. The perception of Sid changed drastically. 1630 01:20:45.800 --> 01:20:48.239 No longer was the granite bodied brute, regarded as a 1631 01:20:48.279 --> 01:20:51.319 hot headed ruffian constantly threatening to but never succeeding in 1632 01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:54.800 capturing the gold. Now Psycho Sid was the undisputed king 1633 01:20:55.159 --> 01:20:57.319 of the squared Circle, the holder of the most coveted 1634 01:20:57.359 --> 01:20:59.279 title in the sport of kings, the man for Michaels 1635 01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:01.640 and every other top contender in the Matt Wars to 1636 01:21:01.720 --> 01:21:04.520 line up to challenge. As reporters clamored to question the 1637 01:21:04.560 --> 01:21:07.279 new titleist, Sid took time out of his whirlwind schedule 1638 01:21:07.359 --> 01:21:11.159 to grant one of his first interviews exclusively to this publication. 1639 01:21:11.479 --> 01:21:15.279 Like you'd fucking do an interview for anybody else's publican. 1640 01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:19.159 Right, like second or third right. A few days after 1641 01:21:19.239 --> 01:21:21.680 winning the World Wresting Federation Championship, you disappeared. No one 1642 01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:23.760 could find you. When we finally attracked you down, we 1643 01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:27.039 discovered that you've been hunting with your old buddies from Arkansas. 1644 01:21:27.640 --> 01:21:28.239 That's right. 1645 01:21:29.239 --> 01:21:32.039 After all the pain and the sweat till to get 1646 01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:35.279 back to the top, I wanted to remember who I 1647 01:21:35.439 --> 01:21:39.760 am and where I come from. I've been hunting with 1648 01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:42.880 these same friends since I was a little kid. When 1649 01:21:42.920 --> 01:21:47.239 I'm with them, I'm not the World Wrestling Entertainment Champion 1650 01:21:48.199 --> 01:21:51.920 or a guy whose picture appears out of magazine covers 1651 01:21:52.199 --> 01:21:58.439 in places like Japan, in India and South Africa. I'm 1652 01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:01.800 the same guy I've always known, and it's important for 1653 01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:05.840 me to face the people who've known me all my life, 1654 01:22:07.199 --> 01:22:10.840 through good times and bad, to bring me back to earth. 1655 01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:14.000 It sounds like you were floating above the clouds until 1656 01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:15.159 you got back to Arkansas. 1657 01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:19.960 Let me put it this way, how many people experienced 1658 01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:25.039 a thrill of winning the ww Championship. One in one 1659 01:22:25.079 --> 01:22:30.159 hundred million, maybe fewer. Is something any kid who ever 1660 01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:35.159 turned on a wrestling match on TV dreams about. But 1661 01:22:35.319 --> 01:22:39.560 I was actually able to do it. It was a long, 1662 01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:44.399 rough road with a lot of detours and a lot 1663 01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:47.359 of agony. But when I got back to that locker 1664 01:22:47.479 --> 01:22:50.920 room after running the title, I really felt like I 1665 01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:51.880 was in heaven. 1666 01:22:52.600 --> 01:22:54.880 It's funny that you'd feel that way since it was 1667 01:22:55.239 --> 01:22:56.600 kind of a controversial victory. 1668 01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:00.439 What was so controversially about it? 1669 01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:03.000 Well, the way that you found Michael's weak spot and 1670 01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:04.319 managed to achieve the victory. 1671 01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:06.560 What do you mean. 1672 01:23:06.960 --> 01:23:11.079 Managed to achieve the victory as if it was a fluke. 1673 01:23:12.600 --> 01:23:16.039 You know, I trained for a long time for that moment. 1674 01:23:17.199 --> 01:23:23.840 I devoted my life wrestling, and I earned that championship. 1675 01:23:25.159 --> 01:23:27.239 You want to know how I beat Michaels. 1676 01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:32.479 By driving that with the bomb, Bob, That's how. 1677 01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:35.720 By being the better man. 1678 01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:39.840 But you also attacked his manager, Jose Lafario. True, That's 1679 01:23:39.840 --> 01:23:40.520 all you have to say. 1680 01:23:40.600 --> 01:23:46.479 True. What else is there to say it was my fault. 1681 01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:49.880 He decided to climb up on the ring apron in 1682 01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:53.439 the middle match, But when I saw him on a 1683 01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:57.560 ring apron, I made a choice to tour a negative 1684 01:23:58.079 --> 01:24:02.319 into more positive instead of letting him distract me, I 1685 01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:05.560 grabbed the camera out of the camera man's hand. 1686 01:24:05.680 --> 01:24:07.960 And smashed Lathoria with it. 1687 01:24:10.279 --> 01:24:13.960 Hey, it's not like I was hitting some poor, defenceless fan. 1688 01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:19.279 Jose Lathario has one of the most knowledgeable minds in wrestling. 1689 01:24:20.199 --> 01:24:22.920 He knew when he was climbing up that ring apron 1690 01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:26.720 that he was putting himself in danger, but he did 1691 01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:29.239 it anyway, and he paid the price. 1692 01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:31.840 Then you hit Michael's with the camera as well before 1693 01:24:31.880 --> 01:24:33.479 giving him a power bomb in scoring the pen. 1694 01:24:34.279 --> 01:24:38.840 Yeah, I'm not ashamed of that. Look at Michaels. Are 1695 01:24:38.920 --> 01:24:41.840 you telling me that Sean wouldn't have done the same 1696 01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:44.560 thing to me if he thought it'd throw off my 1697 01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:49.359 game plan? You know he would. Now, I don't hate 1698 01:24:49.399 --> 01:24:54.680 Sean Michaels. I don't hat Jose Lathario, but you don't 1699 01:24:55.119 --> 01:24:57.199 get to the top of the world as he hit 1700 01:24:57.239 --> 01:25:00.880 a dam it by loving your coworker. There's your coworkers 1701 01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:04.079 gonna step over your body to grab the big prize, 1702 01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:08.199 so you get to the top, but out thinking the 1703 01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:13.279 other guy, which I did when I shifted Michael's mind 1704 01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:17.920 to the Thario instead of the match, then blasted him 1705 01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:19.439 with everything you got. 1706 01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:23.279 Apparently the fans at Madison Square Garden appreciated your strategy, 1707 01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:26.680 as I recall, they were jumping all over you after 1708 01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:28.239 you won the belt. They didn't seem to have a 1709 01:25:28.279 --> 01:25:30.800 problem with your actions at all. Now, come on, weren't 1710 01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:31.920 you a little surprised about that? 1711 01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:36.399 A massive square garden from New Yorkers? You gotta be 1712 01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:36.920 kidding me. 1713 01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:41.359 You ever been in New York? It's getting on the 1714 01:25:41.479 --> 01:25:43.600 subways a fight to the death. 1715 01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:50.279 Well during rush hour. He's not wrong if you got 1716 01:25:50.399 --> 01:25:53.760 to elbows some Moosella Thario got out of the way 1717 01:25:54.239 --> 01:25:57.560 just to get a seat. It's nothing personal, just the 1718 01:25:57.640 --> 01:26:01.239 way it is. That's a lot of the fans were 1719 01:26:01.359 --> 01:26:04.359 cheering for me. They know that I'm not some kind 1720 01:26:04.399 --> 01:26:07.640 of demon. I'm just a regular guy, kind of like 1721 01:26:07.800 --> 01:26:14.760 them in an Arkansas way who saw an opportunity. 1722 01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:16.520 And took it. 1723 01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:18.960 Michaels doesn't see it that way. He says, you attacked 1724 01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:21.199 an old man and that getting back at you is 1725 01:26:21.199 --> 01:26:23.279 almost as important to him as getting back the title. 1726 01:26:23.800 --> 01:26:28.279 It doesn't right now what show Michael sticks does it? 1727 01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:33.119 He seems to forget that, Uh, he's not a champion anymore. 1728 01:26:33.800 --> 01:26:34.760 I'm a champion. 1729 01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:38.319 He's the one who has to come to me if 1730 01:26:38.359 --> 01:26:41.279 he wants a shot of the gold, and I'm the 1731 01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:43.840 one who says the conditions, not him. 1732 01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:47.039 Do you ever worry that under regular wrestling conditions, with 1733 01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:49.920 no cameras to grab and no managers, Michaels would beat you. 1734 01:26:51.640 --> 01:26:55.279 If I worried about that, I'd be in the wrong business. 1735 01:26:56.800 --> 01:26:59.760 It's nice to imagine what the world singenterteam will be 1736 01:26:59.880 --> 01:27:04.399 like if everyone stayed on the map, exchanging fireman's carries, 1737 01:27:04.680 --> 01:27:09.399 hammer locks, leg grapevines. But we don't live in that 1738 01:27:09.560 --> 01:27:13.840 kind of world. When Sid wrestles, he uses the whole 1739 01:27:14.279 --> 01:27:19.960 arena as a weapon, the ring, steps, the guardrail, the cameras, 1740 01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:26.399 stannuncer's table, So Seawn Michaels. So it's the undertaker, so 1741 01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:30.560 does Brett Hart. Now I've heard people say that the 1742 01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:34.880 world of sing entertainment is a place without rules, but 1743 01:27:35.039 --> 01:27:39.159 I disagree with that. Today the world was sing entertainment 1744 01:27:39.479 --> 01:27:45.600 is a place operated under Sid's rules. That's why I 1745 01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:50.840 want the belt, and that's well, I'll be champion as 1746 01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:56.880 long as I want to be amazing. By the way, 1747 01:27:56.880 --> 01:28:00.840 he looks like an absolute bitch. Where that fucking painters 1748 01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:05.880 idiot baseball cap the painter's cap he used to wear 1749 01:28:05.960 --> 01:28:08.319 for some reason though, Oh, he's such a fucking I 1750 01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:10.560 don't know what the deal was with that thing, but 1751 01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:12.760 he would wear it backwards like a little boy all 1752 01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:16.920 the time, all the time. It's not softball season all 1753 01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:18.520 the time, you know, fucking moron. 1754 01:28:18.680 --> 01:28:20.359 They want to give us a wider sense of the man. 1755 01:28:20.439 --> 01:28:22.960 And after the article is about you know, beating on 1756 01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:25.439 Sean and winning its arrivs. Series, we go to page 1757 01:28:26.560 --> 01:28:29.520 twenty four to twenty six of the file here and 1758 01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:32.239 the article is entitled when He's Sane Psycho. Sid is 1759 01:28:32.279 --> 01:28:33.359 a man of contradictions. 1760 01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:34.319 Uh oh. 1761 01:28:34.720 --> 01:28:37.800 In the ring, he is fearless and utterly ruthless. He 1762 01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:40.399 never takes a backwards step, and he's always on the offensive, 1763 01:28:40.520 --> 01:28:43.159 splattering opponents like Vader and gold Dust with alarming ease. 1764 01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:46.439 During interviews, sid sinister look and vocal outbursts have been 1765 01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:49.439 enough to dissuade most athletes from wrestling him. Yet beyond 1766 01:28:49.479 --> 01:28:51.600 the glitter and the glitz of the World Wrestling Federation, 1767 01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:54.640 Psycho Sit is a man of reserve, a man of patients, 1768 01:28:54.680 --> 01:28:57.039 and a man who has a fond appreciation and respect 1769 01:28:57.359 --> 01:28:59.560 for nature and game. 1770 01:28:59.640 --> 01:29:00.000 A man. 1771 01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:03.640 I've been waiting to find out what he measured in 1772 01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:08.079 game management Fridays to say, ducks. 1773 01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:10.479 Game. 1774 01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:14.319 So Boss take it from here. Sid, I guess, is 1775 01:29:14.359 --> 01:29:15.960 a much different person off the mat, is he not? 1776 01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:21.399 Sid is a much different person off the mat. In fact, 1777 01:29:21.439 --> 01:29:24.640 this magazine has learned that the Quote Monster from West 1778 01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:28.479 Memphis is an avid hunter who uses the sport as 1779 01:29:28.680 --> 01:29:33.199 therapy to help him Quote relax. The wild gives me 1780 01:29:33.319 --> 01:29:36.800 a chance to reflect on my career and other choices 1781 01:29:36.840 --> 01:29:37.840 I've made in my life. 1782 01:29:39.439 --> 01:29:41.479 Also an avid hunter Stephanie's husband. 1783 01:29:45.880 --> 01:29:48.880 On that note, Sid isn't any different from other professional 1784 01:29:48.960 --> 01:29:53.079 athletes scores of NFL and NBA superstars. Superstars, by the way, 1785 01:29:53.239 --> 01:29:58.279 not players or athletes. Superstars as well as professional baseball 1786 01:29:58.359 --> 01:30:01.680 players enjoy hunting and f like said, they enjoy the 1787 01:30:01.800 --> 01:30:04.760 challenge of the hunt and the peacefulness of being at 1788 01:30:04.880 --> 01:30:08.079 one with the land and the animals that live upon it. 1789 01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:10.960 Each year said, does what every deer hunter must do. 1790 01:30:11.159 --> 01:30:15.720 He pays for and obtains permits to harvest deer pays 1791 01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:19.079 for and obtains permits. You heard it here. First he 1792 01:30:19.159 --> 01:30:26.159 obtains permits to harvest, not to hunt. Harvest, because are 1793 01:30:26.239 --> 01:30:28.800 they growing deer to be harvested? Is that what's going on? 1794 01:30:28.920 --> 01:30:33.239 I suppose, yeah, that he's seeing to it that deer's 1795 01:30:34.840 --> 01:30:39.800 you know, procreate so that he can kill them. All right, Well, 1796 01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:47.239 there we go, they're harvesting and procreating deer. He realizes 1797 01:30:47.279 --> 01:30:51.039 that his payments for permits, licenses, and ammunition help maintain 1798 01:30:51.399 --> 01:30:54.039 state designated hunting habitats. 1799 01:30:54.079 --> 01:30:56.680 Oh good, well, I'm glad. He realizes that in the 1800 01:30:56.840 --> 01:30:59.800 United States, all the money I pay for deer tags 1801 01:31:00.239 --> 01:31:05.359 and hunting licenses is funneled back into the game management system. 1802 01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:17.119 Also involved in the game management system Stephanie, who says. 1803 01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:23.159 The calendar in the in the the Helmsley House. This 1804 01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:26.880 secures hunters safe every areas in which to hunt, and 1805 01:31:27.039 --> 01:31:30.720 also maintains ecosystems. You know, the balance of the herds 1806 01:31:30.800 --> 01:31:31.680 in the woods. 1807 01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:34.119 The jim herds in the woods, said the jim hers 1808 01:31:34.119 --> 01:31:36.199 in the The first time he's tried to hunt a herd. 1809 01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:40.800 O deer herds have skyrocket in the last decade. He says, 1810 01:31:41.039 --> 01:31:44.119 there are millions of deer in the United States and 1811 01:31:44.239 --> 01:31:47.479 their numbers are always increasing. I'm going to say about it. 1812 01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:50.960 I'm gonna say it doesn't seem like it actually, if 1813 01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:54.359 it weren't for concerned hunters, like said, those numbers could 1814 01:31:54.399 --> 01:31:55.920 pose a problem to people. 1815 01:31:56.079 --> 01:31:59.000 Oh thank god, he's killing these animals, especial what we do. 1816 01:31:59.279 --> 01:32:01.760 He wasn't fucking killing these animals all the time, I. 1817 01:32:01.800 --> 01:32:03.199 Mean, we'd all be in deep trouble. 1818 01:32:06.880 --> 01:32:13.199 Come on, dear, I really kind of thought like it 1819 01:32:13.279 --> 01:32:15.920 was gonna say, you know, there are millions of deer 1820 01:32:15.960 --> 01:32:17.880 in the United States and their days are numbered. 1821 01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:20.720 That's what he should say. 1822 01:32:21.640 --> 01:32:22.960 I'm hutting you down. 1823 01:32:25.279 --> 01:32:27.239 Just the guy you want to see trapesing through the 1824 01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:30.039 woods and fatigues. Jesus, Now I know where they got 1825 01:32:30.079 --> 01:32:31.399 the very windom gimmick from. 1826 01:32:32.439 --> 01:32:38.199 Imagine you see Sid It's like, you know, just also 1827 01:32:38.279 --> 01:32:41.520 I picture mounting with you know, like he's wearing fatigue, 1828 01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:45.640 Like he's wearing like those kinds of cargo pants. You know, 1829 01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:50.079 he's were you know, uh a camo uh cargo pants 1830 01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:54.680 and a camo vest, no shirt, all right, and a 1831 01:32:54.840 --> 01:32:55.920 white baseball hat. 1832 01:32:56.079 --> 01:32:59.640 Oh my god, all right, that's the whole Cogan movie. 1833 01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:02.039 What movie is it where he's got the camo vest 1834 01:33:02.119 --> 01:33:04.920 and like the fake hair? Is that a secret agent club? 1835 01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:07.199 One of those? Oh yeah, it was one of those. 1836 01:33:08.079 --> 01:33:10.920 You see a picture here in the magazine. No you no, no, no, no, 1837 01:33:11.000 --> 01:33:13.520 no no no no, it wasn't that. It was the 1838 01:33:13.640 --> 01:33:18.880 ultimate weapon, Ultimate weapon? Sure, ultimate weapon. So are they 1839 01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:23.760 called Rick Wilson? They should have called them. 1840 01:33:25.960 --> 01:33:30.680 I'm proud of you, dear. You can'todd from Sid. 1841 01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:32.600 God, I thought you were reading the article again. I'm 1842 01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:35.520 like trying to Did you say that? Did I lose 1843 01:33:35.560 --> 01:33:44.439 my place? That would be amazing. So the if it 1844 01:33:44.520 --> 01:33:47.279 weren't for concerted hunters like Sid, those numbers could pose 1845 01:33:47.319 --> 01:33:50.359 a problem to people, especially farmers who depend on their 1846 01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:53.159 crops for a livelihood. Too many deer in one area 1847 01:33:53.319 --> 01:33:58.119 means too many hungry deer. Too many hungry deer means 1848 01:33:58.159 --> 01:34:01.159 the animals will wander deeper into populated areas in order 1849 01:34:01.239 --> 01:34:05.000 to eat and survive. Another reason Sid likes to likes 1850 01:34:05.039 --> 01:34:08.880 deer hunting is because the sport unites families, and it 1851 01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:14.279 also destroys exactly. It depends what you mean. During the 1852 01:34:14.399 --> 01:34:16.720 rare occasions away from the ring in the deer season, 1853 01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:21.640 Sid often takes his twelve year old son, Frank, I'm 1854 01:34:21.680 --> 01:34:24.800 gonna teach you how to deliver Vienna's. Frank, We're gonna 1855 01:34:24.880 --> 01:34:29.720 hunt deer venison. You got that. This is where it 1856 01:34:29.840 --> 01:34:36.960 comes from. We got Vienna venison, sausages, hot dogs, canned 1857 01:34:37.399 --> 01:34:43.760 Vienna medallions. These are these are the Vienna medallions. Right. 1858 01:34:44.439 --> 01:34:47.479 Don't want you to aim. I want you to shoot 1859 01:34:47.560 --> 01:34:52.880 that deer, Frank, I said, put your gun, put your 1860 01:34:52.920 --> 01:34:56.680 gun on your shoulder. You aim, and you kill that deer. 1861 01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:03.800 Fank, Dude, I said, kill the deer. 1862 01:35:04.279 --> 01:35:05.520 It's gone. Now look what. 1863 01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:08.760 Happened right away? Because you're stupid. 1864 01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:13.319 Because you're stupid ass. Are you sure that's why you 1865 01:35:13.399 --> 01:35:13.760 run away? 1866 01:35:13.840 --> 01:35:14.039 Dad? 1867 01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:18.520 Hey, right away? Because you're stupid. 1868 01:35:24.119 --> 01:35:30.239 Oh my god, Frank just a fucking twelve year old kid, 1869 01:35:30.319 --> 01:35:34.479 just like trying to, you know, please his dad, Daddy. 1870 01:35:35.800 --> 01:35:44.720 He doesn't talk like that. He ran away because you're stupid, Naddy. 1871 01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:46.079 Why are you yelling at me, daddy? 1872 01:35:47.920 --> 01:35:49.600 Because you're stupid, Frank. 1873 01:35:50.920 --> 01:35:51.800 You let him get. 1874 01:35:51.720 --> 01:35:56.520 Away, Daddy, and you're ruining everything. Now I'm gonna go 1875 01:35:56.640 --> 01:35:57.960 up to Zuzu and see her room. 1876 01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:02.800 What do you say? 1877 01:36:03.319 --> 01:36:05.119 Now, I'm gonna go up and check on Zusa. 1878 01:36:08.239 --> 01:36:09.840 And Susan's sick. 1879 01:36:11.039 --> 01:36:14.000 I'm gonna fucking check your because you're a fucking sellure. 1880 01:36:14.119 --> 01:36:22.000 Frank Christer was one of the kids. Frank, No, so 1881 01:36:22.520 --> 01:36:24.000 it's so drafting in this house. 1882 01:36:25.720 --> 01:36:27.880 It's so fucking class in this house. 1883 01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:32.239 That's it as George Bailey. Too bad we didn't attribute 1884 01:36:32.239 --> 01:36:34.439 this guy before we did that one. 1885 01:36:34.840 --> 01:36:37.199 Oh my god, I would have named George Bailey Heasley 1886 01:36:41.279 --> 01:36:42.640 out a boy, Clarence. 1887 01:36:47.319 --> 01:36:49.039 Clarence is like said, I'm managing the heels. 1888 01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:55.119 Oh Jesus, allright. 1889 01:36:55.279 --> 01:36:55.399 Uh. 1890 01:36:56.239 --> 01:36:59.840 This is a great year old hunter picture to the 1891 01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:05.159 right with his dad and younger brother, Gunnar. Gunner along Gunnar. 1892 01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:08.840 That's a nice spelled gunner. It's Gunnar along with him. 1893 01:37:08.960 --> 01:37:13.960 In fact, Frank is an accomplished marksman. Skip skip skip 1894 01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:16.720 here two years ago, Frank would sit it a side 1895 01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:20.159 bagged an eight point buck. Oh yeah, and I got 1896 01:37:20.199 --> 01:37:20.640 my attention. 1897 01:37:20.840 --> 01:37:21.039 Son. 1898 01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:24.479 There's just pictures of fucking deer heads in the wall, 1899 01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:31.920 which I just you know, I've never understood that the taxidermy. Yeah, 1900 01:37:32.520 --> 01:37:36.239 I just don't understand, Like, I don't want animals heads 1901 01:37:36.319 --> 01:37:38.159 up there looking at me. I don't get it. 1902 01:37:38.399 --> 01:37:41.039 So I know it's not even like an animal rights thing. 1903 01:37:41.119 --> 01:37:42.680 It's like it's creepy as fuck. 1904 01:37:42.720 --> 01:37:45.000 Right, I I listen, I get it. You know that's 1905 01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:47.000 the way some people are. They want to hunt. Fine, 1906 01:37:47.479 --> 01:37:50.000 it's really it's just it's that, I that what the 1907 01:37:50.039 --> 01:37:51.000 fuck's looking at you? 1908 01:37:51.800 --> 01:37:51.920 Right? 1909 01:37:53.279 --> 01:37:56.439 Those eyes are I don't need that. I don't need 1910 01:37:56.520 --> 01:37:59.960 that ship. It looks like a Christmas display in the lawn. Really, 1911 01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:07.239 I know, it looks like animatronic reindeer. Creepy, creepy as fuck. 1912 01:38:10.319 --> 01:38:12.399 Two years ago, Frank with the other eight point fick. 1913 01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:15.359 It was the youngster's first registered deal deer kill, and 1914 01:38:15.439 --> 01:38:20.079 it made both father and son extremely extremely proud. Frank 1915 01:38:20.159 --> 01:38:22.399 Baggs first deer while he was in the sixth grade. 1916 01:38:22.439 --> 01:38:26.880 Three years ago. It says he's twelve, right, I know 1917 01:38:26.960 --> 01:38:30.000 you're gonna do that. That doesn't make any sense. He's twelve. 1918 01:38:31.359 --> 01:38:37.840 He should be in the sixth grade. Awesome, right, that's 1919 01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:41.840 you turn ten. Maybe he is fourth grade you turn 1920 01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:46.399 eleven in the Uh, yeah, he should be in the 1921 01:38:46.439 --> 01:38:49.720 sixth grade, maybe seventh grade, I suppose, But maybe he 1922 01:38:49.800 --> 01:38:52.079 was on accelerated learning because he's just so brilliant. Maybe 1923 01:38:52.399 --> 01:38:55.199 maybe maybe that's maybe that's why he can't fucking h 1924 01:38:55.279 --> 01:38:57.600 he can't deliver Vienna's and he's so fucking smart. 1925 01:38:57.680 --> 01:38:59.239 Don't you know that when kids are on track to 1926 01:38:59.279 --> 01:39:01.720 Star and brother one year that they shoot him up 1927 01:39:01.720 --> 01:39:02.479 four or five grades. 1928 01:39:03.079 --> 01:39:06.199 Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure he shoot him up a 1929 01:39:06.199 --> 01:39:11.039 whole different kind of ways. He shoot him rigs and 1930 01:39:11.159 --> 01:39:17.800 fucking needles and shit, just rigs. What about bagwell? What wow? 1931 01:39:19.159 --> 01:39:24.960 Will you getting it? Will you do him? Sid there's 1932 01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:28.479 no bagwell, there's no time to. 1933 01:39:28.600 --> 01:39:32.279 Bagwell, right, and that's ladies and gentlemen. While he got 1934 01:39:32.319 --> 01:39:33.439 fired from the grocery store. 1935 01:39:38.640 --> 01:39:38.800 Ah. 1936 01:39:40.279 --> 01:39:46.600 Indeed, I have heard that he used twelve gage shotguns 1937 01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:51.439 and bagged the bucket the Panther Creek game refuge in Mississippi. 1938 01:39:51.520 --> 01:39:54.000 I want to short change the kid twenty gauge shotgun 1939 01:39:55.119 --> 01:40:00.920 T ten, sorry to double the gauge double gate brother, 1940 01:40:01.239 --> 01:40:06.439 if only double gate. Panther Creek is one of the 1941 01:40:06.520 --> 01:40:09.399 most prestigious state owned hunting preserves in the United States. 1942 01:40:10.079 --> 01:40:12.000 The refuse, what do I feel like we just talked 1943 01:40:12.039 --> 01:40:19.000 about we talked about something on cinemat with turkey turkey hunting? 1944 01:40:20.119 --> 01:40:20.960 Did we did? 1945 01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:21.039 We? 1946 01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:25.239 Yeah? We did. There was some article because it had 1947 01:40:25.359 --> 01:40:28.119 the guy the same name about It had very little 1948 01:40:28.159 --> 01:40:31.760 to do with the actual movie, but the the guy 1949 01:40:31.800 --> 01:40:33.479 who was in charge of the same name as somebody 1950 01:40:33.520 --> 01:40:37.359 we were I was doing a profile on. But it 1951 01:40:37.439 --> 01:40:39.479 turned out to not be the same guy. But the 1952 01:40:39.520 --> 01:40:41.880 story was just so fucking funny that I had to 1953 01:40:41.960 --> 01:40:44.880 read it. And it was involving Panther Creek. No, it 1954 01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:46.920 wasn't Panther Creek, but it was about some kind of 1955 01:40:48.479 --> 01:40:55.399 like organized turkey hunting. To bring that one back to Thanksgiving, 1956 01:40:55.920 --> 01:40:59.880 yeah exactly. I'll have to find that that piece. I 1957 01:41:03.359 --> 01:41:07.239 can here in Black Bear, as well as a variety 1958 01:41:07.279 --> 01:41:12.479 of water fowls such as canvas back ducks. Teals, Wait, 1959 01:41:13.960 --> 01:41:17.439 canvas back bumps? Brother, what canvas back ducks? Haven't heard 1960 01:41:17.439 --> 01:41:19.840 of that? Canvas camas? What we mean do? 1961 01:41:20.600 --> 01:41:36.800 It's the Laps Wrestling Podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows 1962 01:41:36.880 --> 01:41:54.920 the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's 1963 01:41:55.000 --> 01:41:59.239 the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio. 1964 01:41:59.039 --> 01:42:03.039 And Japiso ask your question, boss, real quick, Yeah, pumpkin 1965 01:42:03.119 --> 01:42:07.479 seeds yet soon this week? Checking this sweet checking. I 1966 01:42:07.479 --> 01:42:09.359 didn't want to miss the opportunity. Get it. No, no, no, 1967 01:42:09.479 --> 01:42:11.319 it's it's gonna happen. Listen, listen, I'll tell you what 1968 01:42:11.680 --> 01:42:13.760 You'll know for sure because I'll be snacking the fuck 1969 01:42:13.800 --> 01:42:15.159 on this. As we talked about turkey, you know, I 1970 01:42:15.199 --> 01:42:18.520 had to had now we get because we got to 1971 01:42:18.560 --> 01:42:22.479 carve the jack lane in his first and then pumpkin seeds. 1972 01:42:22.680 --> 01:42:25.800 I made my cinnamon sugar ones. Those were oh lovely. 1973 01:42:26.600 --> 01:42:28.680 You know we have I'm actually might try a batch 1974 01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:31.439 of that because we have it. Man, so simple, we 1975 01:42:31.560 --> 01:42:34.439 have so many. We actually have a ton of just 1976 01:42:34.520 --> 01:42:38.159 by chance. My parents came down and brought small pumpkins 1977 01:42:38.720 --> 01:42:41.119 as well. Despite the ones that we bought that I 1978 01:42:41.199 --> 01:42:44.479 got for my family, we actually have a huge amount. 1979 01:42:44.560 --> 01:42:47.359 So actually there's this is a good year to to 1980 01:42:47.439 --> 01:42:49.600 mix it up a little bit elt butter. Well, let 1981 01:42:49.680 --> 01:42:52.840 them drive elt butter in a bowl, ye, and put 1982 01:42:52.880 --> 01:42:56.079 them in cinnamon sugar on top, mix them up, bake them. 1983 01:42:56.119 --> 01:42:57.119 We'll give us shop business. 1984 01:42:57.880 --> 01:43:01.000 I'll give it Thanksgiving sandwich come as well. I take 1985 01:43:01.039 --> 01:43:03.560 it as Oh yes, I see turkey's wandering the neighborhood, 1986 01:43:03.560 --> 01:43:05.720 and I'm saying, guys, your days are numbered. 1987 01:43:06.279 --> 01:43:08.680 Oh yeah, you're gonna get in my belly on the 1988 01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:11.439 day after. I'm thanksgiving him the day after. More importantly, 1989 01:43:12.439 --> 01:43:13.640 so that's where the danger happened. 1990 01:43:13.640 --> 01:43:16.119 You can only read this much about hunting this close 1991 01:43:16.279 --> 01:43:20.800 to game season, foul season without reminding folks that Dosa, 1992 01:43:21.720 --> 01:43:25.399 those sweet smells and flavors right around the corner as well. 1993 01:43:26.159 --> 01:43:30.840 Oh it's it's so necessary for Christmas this year. Yeah, 1994 01:43:30.920 --> 01:43:32.720 it's the plan. There's the plan. 1995 01:43:34.640 --> 01:43:38.800 I'm planning numbers, showing it up pretty hard. Please continue, 1996 01:43:39.239 --> 01:43:46.000 all right. Canvas back ducks, teals, and Canadian geese, not 1997 01:43:46.119 --> 01:43:50.239 to mention other game birds such as pheasant, bob, white, quail, 1998 01:43:50.840 --> 01:43:54.399 and partridge. Said tells this magazine that deer hunting almost 1999 01:43:54.439 --> 01:43:57.720 caused him serious injury, not by his or someone else's gun, 2000 01:43:57.880 --> 01:44:01.319 but by a buck itself and buck, damn bucky, by 2001 01:44:01.399 --> 01:44:04.119 a damn buck itself. I was hunting during the rut, 2002 01:44:05.479 --> 01:44:08.520 the period when dominant bucks compete for their foe. They're 2003 01:44:08.560 --> 01:44:12.600 doe the female of the species, Sid says, when a 2004 01:44:12.680 --> 01:44:15.920 big deal charged with me. Now I'm an't afraid of 2005 01:44:16.039 --> 01:44:19.159 any man in the ring. I'll take on vader or 2006 01:44:19.319 --> 01:44:22.640 mankind any day of the week. But this was unreal. 2007 01:44:24.199 --> 01:44:26.760 I froze for a second as the buck came at me. 2008 01:44:27.279 --> 01:44:30.600 The sun was going down, so I couldn't really see 2009 01:44:31.039 --> 01:44:34.079 him well coming through the brush. When he got about 2010 01:44:34.119 --> 01:44:36.479 ten feet away from me, that's when I decided to 2011 01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:40.279 harvest it. Oh, harvest is another word for kill. I see, 2012 01:44:40.960 --> 01:44:43.760 I get well. I mean, I guess it's still fucking weird. 2013 01:44:44.840 --> 01:44:48.119 It's weird to me. I don't know because to me, again, 2014 01:44:48.359 --> 01:44:50.600 the idea of harvesting and you know, listen, I'm not 2015 01:44:50.680 --> 01:44:53.640 a hunter, so I don't fucking know shit. So anyone 2016 01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:55.800 who's a hunter can can definitely tell me that I'm 2017 01:44:55.960 --> 01:44:59.600 an idiot for saying this. But to me, harvesting is 2018 01:44:59.760 --> 01:45:03.520 you row something and then you harvest it. Right, They're 2019 01:45:03.560 --> 01:45:05.399 not again, they're not growing deer. 2020 01:45:05.560 --> 01:45:09.239 Harvest is when you turn something you brought into existence into. 2021 01:45:09.119 --> 01:45:10.960 Food, right exactly. 2022 01:45:11.319 --> 01:45:13.399 Let me ask you a question, growing, does this article 2023 01:45:13.439 --> 01:45:14.319 qualified deer hunter? 2024 01:45:18.680 --> 01:45:18.720 That? 2025 01:45:19.319 --> 01:45:23.840 Okay, just checking, Although I forget I think we had 2026 01:45:23.840 --> 01:45:26.000 this conversation before. I don't think deer hunter yet qualified. 2027 01:45:27.039 --> 01:45:31.079 I think I think it's or was there something that's 2028 01:45:31.079 --> 01:45:34.119 a great move. It's a great movie. But it's a 2029 01:45:34.239 --> 01:45:37.760 great movie. Huh, it's a great movie. 2030 01:45:38.119 --> 01:45:38.760 It is it is. 2031 01:45:38.800 --> 01:45:39.960 It'd be great to be able to have that on 2032 01:45:40.039 --> 01:45:40.319 the list. 2033 01:45:43.399 --> 01:45:47.840 Uh So, I mean, can we call sids run the 2034 01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:51.079 rut because he's also competing for dough. 2035 01:45:54.119 --> 01:45:55.560 I mean, wrestlers are always competing for you. 2036 01:45:57.560 --> 01:46:01.920 It's not a run terry, it's a rut broiler. He 2037 01:46:02.039 --> 01:46:07.000 doesn't like that at all, exactly. Low this the fuck down? 2038 01:46:07.880 --> 01:46:09.920 Yeah, that he's nervous. 2039 01:46:10.000 --> 01:46:12.359 Now when they we're talking about you know, canvas back ducks, 2040 01:46:12.399 --> 01:46:15.439 teals and Canadian geese, I'm thinking, yes, any of other 2041 01:46:15.880 --> 01:46:18.399 any other of Cody's siblings in there besides this teal. 2042 01:46:21.159 --> 01:46:22.760 I don't know why only she got the invite. 2043 01:46:23.359 --> 01:46:30.439 Yeah, you know what happens the uh when he got 2044 01:46:30.520 --> 01:46:32.800 ten ft away, that's when I heard. Really, I didn't 2045 01:46:32.800 --> 01:46:34.960 have a choice. It was either shoot or climb up 2046 01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:39.279 a tree. Yeah, I know it's what he's doing. Yeah, God, 2047 01:46:39.319 --> 01:46:41.000 he climbed up the tree. He's gonna he's gonna fucking 2048 01:46:41.119 --> 01:46:46.119 break his leg in half. Sid leveled his gun with 2049 01:46:46.279 --> 01:46:49.479 steady hands and calm breathing. He pulled the trigger. It 2050 01:46:49.640 --> 01:46:53.920 was an excellent shot. Sid says. The animal crashed to 2051 01:46:54.000 --> 01:46:56.279 the ground and a thud. When he retrieved the animal, 2052 01:46:56.359 --> 01:46:59.399 he saw just what a prize he had. It was 2053 01:46:59.479 --> 01:47:06.199 a ten point winner and huge. When I dressed him out, 2054 01:47:07.159 --> 01:47:10.960 that's cleaning the animals, enterds and some bones. It weighed 2055 01:47:11.039 --> 01:47:15.520 three hundred ninety pounds. That's more than our way, said, 2056 01:47:15.560 --> 01:47:18.319 says he bagged this beauty at Little Twisted Game Reserve 2057 01:47:18.399 --> 01:47:22.039 in northern Mississippi. The owner of the private land hunting retreat, 2058 01:47:22.399 --> 01:47:26.640 Howard Brent, told Sid that the buck was one of 2059 01:47:26.720 --> 01:47:29.399 the biggest ever harvested there in the last five years. 2060 01:47:29.560 --> 01:47:31.279 God said, that's got to be one of the biggest 2061 01:47:31.279 --> 01:47:32.640 bucks I've ever seen hunted. 2062 01:47:33.239 --> 01:47:35.279 Oh God, now, hey see it. I just took to 2063 01:47:35.359 --> 01:47:38.880 tell you, man, Wow. Now I've seen people harvesting bucks 2064 01:47:38.920 --> 01:47:41.840 all you know, for for decades. That has got to 2065 01:47:41.920 --> 01:47:45.840 be the biggest damn buck I've ever seen harvest. 2066 01:47:45.920 --> 01:47:48.039 I mean, Howard, I'm counting this thing. I mean, I 2067 01:47:48.079 --> 01:47:49.720 don't think we've got a big enough table. I mean, 2068 01:47:49.760 --> 01:47:51.880 I've seen some bucks laid down on our table before, 2069 01:47:51.960 --> 01:47:53.159 but this is on a whole other level. 2070 01:47:53.239 --> 01:47:55.600 Man. I don't. I'll tell you said. You said, you 2071 01:47:55.680 --> 01:47:59.000 can't bring that here. You can't. No, you're gotta bring 2072 01:47:59.079 --> 01:47:59.840 that someplace else. 2073 01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:00.319 I don't know what. 2074 01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:01.920 I don't want to tell you. I can't. I don't 2075 01:48:01.920 --> 01:48:04.119 have space for it. What do you mean you have 2076 01:48:04.199 --> 01:48:07.800 the space for it? I don't have. Look, I don't listen. 2077 01:48:07.840 --> 01:48:09.239 I can tell you right now that that is going 2078 01:48:09.279 --> 01:48:11.560 to be a stray buck. I don't. I don't grow 2079 01:48:11.640 --> 01:48:15.680 bucks that big. Now, we we do, we do, we 2080 01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:19.079 do medium size, not this fucking big ass ship. What 2081 01:48:19.159 --> 01:48:20.640 do you want me to do with that? I want 2082 01:48:20.680 --> 01:48:22.600 you to do what you gotta do to clean the 2083 01:48:22.680 --> 01:48:26.119 sun of bits exactly. I said I don't have the 2084 01:48:26.159 --> 01:48:28.640 space for it, and you know what said I don't 2085 01:48:28.680 --> 01:48:32.920 want the space either. But this is horrifying. Oh my god. 2086 01:48:34.119 --> 01:48:36.760 I said, you're you're killing You're killing deer on my land. 2087 01:48:39.840 --> 01:48:43.880 That's the whole idea. How you told me that's what 2088 01:48:44.039 --> 01:48:46.640 you have here. You said that that is what's going 2089 01:48:46.720 --> 01:48:51.840 on here, that this is land specifically designed and registered 2090 01:48:51.880 --> 01:48:56.159 for harvesting animal. Uh, well, well, take a look at 2091 01:48:56.199 --> 01:48:59.039 this beauty. I mean, that's what I call a trophy. 2092 01:48:59.439 --> 01:49:01.039 This one's a king in the Woods said, I mean, 2093 01:49:01.720 --> 01:49:03.399 I must have taken a lot of patience to get him. 2094 01:49:03.439 --> 01:49:08.319 Been watching him for seasons, said said, we don't have 2095 01:49:08.680 --> 01:49:10.640 We don't kill animals here, we harvest them. 2096 01:49:12.079 --> 01:49:12.399 Mhm. 2097 01:49:13.640 --> 01:49:15.319 Let me ask you a question. What does that mean 2098 01:49:15.359 --> 01:49:19.720 when you put a bliss fucking meme? Said, we don't 2099 01:49:19.800 --> 01:49:24.760 we don't murder. We don't murder animal life here. This 2100 01:49:24.920 --> 01:49:28.119 is a place of nature, is a place of God. No, look, 2101 01:49:28.640 --> 01:49:30.840 let me speaking of witch. Wait, let me ask you 2102 01:49:30.840 --> 01:49:34.039 a question. Wait, when you shot this thing, did it 2103 01:49:34.119 --> 01:49:40.119 do like three or four summersaults? I'd say, yes, it did, 2104 01:49:40.640 --> 01:49:42.319 And my god, I'd say, we got a young buck 2105 01:49:42.399 --> 01:49:49.600 right here, said just let me ask them here after 2106 01:49:49.680 --> 01:49:53.800 you shot it, did you notice it kind of engage 2107 01:49:53.840 --> 01:49:56.399 in a in a in a in a party of 2108 01:49:56.439 --> 01:50:01.239 super kicks with a lace three about kicking people in 2109 01:50:01.279 --> 01:50:08.199 the face? This was wow, said you're under a rest 2110 01:50:08.239 --> 01:50:11.960 for killing a young buck. Matter, Nick, how long you been? 2111 01:50:12.199 --> 01:50:16.720 How long have you been tracking him? Said I've been 2112 01:50:16.760 --> 01:50:19.239 tracking him in my mind for five years? 2113 01:50:20.319 --> 01:50:23.560 Smart old buck too, wasn't he who ever trick in 2114 01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:24.880 the book to keep out of sight? From what I 2115 01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:32.439 can tell, how did patients pay off in the end. 2116 01:50:32.479 --> 01:50:32.720 See it. 2117 01:50:34.920 --> 01:50:41.800 I don't have patience. I get it done, just like you. 2118 01:50:42.079 --> 01:50:43.039 Got Howard Brent. 2119 01:50:46.479 --> 01:50:49.119 This one's gonna make a great story. That didn't even 2120 01:50:49.239 --> 01:50:50.279 better Mount. 2121 01:50:52.560 --> 01:50:55.760 Harding the mount your head, hold my fucking wall. 2122 01:50:58.760 --> 01:51:02.600 He's trying his best to sound happy for Sid, so 2123 01:51:02.720 --> 01:51:04.800 he doesn't go down this road, but he knows he's 2124 01:51:04.840 --> 01:51:08.640 going to. He knows he's start threatening him. There's gonna 2125 01:51:08.640 --> 01:51:12.920 be something that dissatisfies Sid, and at that point all 2126 01:51:12.960 --> 01:51:13.359 bets are. 2127 01:51:13.359 --> 01:51:19.119 Off, said listen, I said, I didn't mean a fan, 2128 01:51:19.239 --> 01:51:21.359 all right, I did not mean a fan. Let's can 2129 01:51:21.439 --> 01:51:23.640 we let bygones be bygones? Please? 2130 01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:28.920 Shut You don't determine bygones, you bitch. 2131 01:51:31.720 --> 01:51:35.399 There's the quote, you don't determine bygones, you bitch. 2132 01:51:36.600 --> 01:51:41.000 That's awesome. I cherished that one more than anything said 2133 01:51:41.039 --> 01:51:47.800 has said this whole series. You don't determine bygones. That 2134 01:51:49.640 --> 01:51:53.159 think of the utility that that phrase has across everything. 2135 01:51:54.039 --> 01:51:58.239 You don't determined by like exactly like okay, I'll let 2136 01:51:58.319 --> 01:52:02.039 bygones be bygones, but you don't decide what's meant by bygones? 2137 01:52:02.119 --> 01:52:02.840 Power I did. 2138 01:52:02.880 --> 01:52:04.720 It's right, you don't determine so. 2139 01:52:04.800 --> 01:52:07.119 Long as I decide what bygones are, yes, I am 2140 01:52:07.239 --> 01:52:09.479 very willing to let bygones be bygones. 2141 01:52:12.560 --> 01:52:15.840 Oh Man, Little twists, it ads, Little twists it Ads 2142 01:52:15.960 --> 01:52:19.479 is one of the premier locations for waterfowl hunting. Ducks 2143 01:52:19.520 --> 01:52:22.600 and geese are migratory birds protected under the United States 2144 01:52:22.680 --> 01:52:25.960 Federal law. Little Twist Game Reserve is located in the 2145 01:52:26.039 --> 01:52:29.359 migratory flyways for these birds, and it isn't uncommon to 2146 01:52:29.439 --> 01:52:32.680 see thousands fly overhead at any given time. When deer 2147 01:52:32.760 --> 01:52:34.880 season ends, you can find Sid and his son and 2148 01:52:34.960 --> 01:52:38.359 their duck blinds waiting for their choice game to fly 2149 01:52:38.479 --> 01:52:43.319 into range. Just sit is just everywhere with an arsenal 2150 01:52:43.359 --> 01:52:43.920 of weapons. 2151 01:52:45.479 --> 01:52:47.039 Just make sure when they fly into range that you 2152 01:52:47.119 --> 01:52:48.800 catch them so they don't break their ankle on the 2153 01:52:49.600 --> 01:52:50.439 descent to the floor. 2154 01:52:54.119 --> 01:52:58.520 Like every ethical hunter, Sid values the role of conservation 2155 01:52:58.680 --> 01:53:05.880 at conservation officer and conservation of what exactly. Officers and 2156 01:53:05.960 --> 01:53:11.239 biologists are these sportsmen's best friends. The rules and regulations 2157 01:53:11.279 --> 01:53:16.399 of hunting aren't determined by conservation officers and biologists. They're 2158 01:53:16.800 --> 01:53:20.720 the guys who conduct studies on the animals and figure 2159 01:53:20.760 --> 01:53:26.640 out how certain populations of certain species are overpopulated. Is 2160 01:53:26.720 --> 01:53:29.039 also great to be in the woods and I see 2161 01:53:29.079 --> 01:53:33.039 all the animals I can't hunt, such as owls, eagles, 2162 01:53:33.079 --> 01:53:37.199 and songbirds. That's being at one with nature. That's what 2163 01:53:37.399 --> 01:53:40.399 hunting is really about. I love the idea that they 2164 01:53:40.479 --> 01:53:44.199 have this. You know, you know, God forbid that there 2165 01:53:44.279 --> 01:53:50.720 come a time where some some being higher on the 2166 01:53:50.760 --> 01:53:52.600 food chaine of sides. You know what I want to 2167 01:53:52.640 --> 01:53:55.640 tell you, Some of these humans are overpopulating in the earth. 2168 01:53:56.560 --> 01:53:58.880 I think we're gonna kind of make some reservations where 2169 01:53:58.920 --> 01:54:01.439 we can hunt them, kind of tone things down a 2170 01:54:01.479 --> 01:54:04.439 little bit. How we feel about that? Out of hand? 2171 01:54:04.520 --> 01:54:06.920 It really is all these humans getting out of hand. 2172 01:54:07.800 --> 01:54:09.359 Got to fucking cut them down. 2173 01:54:09.840 --> 01:54:12.319 I think the owls and eagles and songbirds have gotten 2174 01:54:12.520 --> 01:54:13.920 the memo that they're not going to be hunted. Do 2175 01:54:13.920 --> 01:54:16.560 you think they kind of just like flaunted. 2176 01:54:17.000 --> 01:54:18.800 Oh, I'm sure that they do. I'm sure that they're 2177 01:54:18.840 --> 01:54:20.279 completely aware. 2178 01:54:21.319 --> 01:54:23.000 Oh my god, Like how foolish he looks with that 2179 01:54:23.079 --> 01:54:26.399 big bass he cut. He looks like such an idy teenager. 2180 01:54:28.079 --> 01:54:30.239 That's what he wants to do, man, he's a country boy. 2181 01:54:30.279 --> 01:54:32.359 He wants to go home, tend the farm and hunt 2182 01:54:33.079 --> 01:54:35.800 and softball. It does not take a lot to get 2183 01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:38.239 his mind to turn to all right, how do I 2184 01:54:38.319 --> 01:54:40.359 find a way to do an Irish exit here and 2185 01:54:40.439 --> 01:54:43.319 disappear without anyone even noticing I was leaving? 2186 01:54:43.960 --> 01:54:44.079 Right? 2187 01:54:44.239 --> 01:54:47.039 That's always the way, And I'd like for Sid, you know, 2188 01:54:47.199 --> 01:54:50.760 David Letterman style here Top ten Psycho Sid's Hunter's tips 2189 01:54:50.800 --> 01:54:51.319 for safety. 2190 01:54:53.800 --> 01:54:57.159 They do them in order here or go backwards. I 2191 01:54:57.239 --> 01:54:59.319 guess they're in no particular order, so I don't know. 2192 01:55:01.319 --> 01:55:03.960 Always hunt with your parents or relatives who've been in 2193 01:55:04.039 --> 01:55:06.840 the woods a lot. What if I want to hunt 2194 01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:09.199 and I have no parents, relatives I've ever hunted before. 2195 01:55:10.239 --> 01:55:11.760 I think what he's saying is, then you can't hunt. 2196 01:55:12.479 --> 01:55:16.600 I guess. Number two. Always keep your gun on safety 2197 01:55:17.640 --> 01:55:22.640 even when you're shooting at bucks. Three, Never run with 2198 01:55:22.680 --> 01:55:27.520 a gun, even with a safety mechanism activated. Number four, 2199 01:55:28.039 --> 01:55:31.359 Be sure what you're shooting at and what's beyond your target. 2200 01:55:32.479 --> 01:55:41.560 Five When in doubt, don't shoot brother? Yo, Yo, Sid? 2201 01:55:41.680 --> 01:55:47.680 What's up? Brother? WHOA? I just want to you know, 2202 01:55:47.800 --> 01:55:49.000 Si his brother? What's going on? 2203 01:55:49.239 --> 01:55:49.439 Dude? 2204 01:55:49.520 --> 01:55:52.319 Big says dude. We graduate you on winning the strip. Brother. 2205 01:55:52.439 --> 01:55:55.800 That's really awesome, Bro, I saw it. I was watching, 2206 01:55:56.159 --> 01:55:58.000 you know, brother, I was watching the Survivor series. 2207 01:55:58.079 --> 01:55:58.279 Dude. 2208 01:55:58.279 --> 01:56:01.560 You guys you know you did. You did really fucking 2209 01:56:01.600 --> 01:56:03.439 great in the gizzard and day we're giving you guys 2210 01:56:03.479 --> 01:56:04.520 a run for your money over here. 2211 01:56:04.560 --> 01:56:04.760 Brother. 2212 01:56:04.840 --> 01:56:06.720 But I tell you what, when I saw them strap 2213 01:56:06.760 --> 01:56:08.439 you up, brother, I thought, oh, man, we got some 2214 01:56:08.560 --> 01:56:11.680 real strong counter winds coming in. Brother. Like, I was like, 2215 01:56:11.760 --> 01:56:14.680 oh ship, you know we got You know, I've always said, 2216 01:56:14.680 --> 01:56:17.199 you look, you can make a bunch of little mistakes too, 2217 01:56:17.239 --> 01:56:19.119 but you can only make a few big ones, brother, 2218 01:56:19.439 --> 01:56:21.279 And I think we made a big mistake by allowing 2219 01:56:21.319 --> 01:56:23.039 them to put the strap on YouTube. I'm telling you what. 2220 01:56:23.119 --> 01:56:23.319 Brother. 2221 01:56:23.439 --> 01:56:25.399 So I'm at the grocery store, dude, and I see 2222 01:56:25.439 --> 01:56:28.159 this this WWF magazine, the Spotlight gimmick on the on 2223 01:56:28.199 --> 01:56:31.920 the newsstands. Brother, and I opened it up, and I'm fumbing, dude. 2224 01:56:31.960 --> 01:56:34.079 You know, I just want to you know, I just 2225 01:56:34.199 --> 01:56:36.680 I just you know, my monster to get in a little. 2226 01:56:36.720 --> 01:56:38.800 I was like, wow, dude, this guy is very well spoken. 2227 01:56:38.880 --> 01:56:41.159 You know, nice little stories there about Sid kind of 2228 01:56:41.159 --> 01:56:42.159 getting some of that background. 2229 01:56:42.239 --> 01:56:44.560 Dude. I'm wandering, dude, you know you kind of lossen 2230 01:56:44.840 --> 01:56:50.239 this especially intrigued Browner, by those by those you know 2231 01:56:50.520 --> 01:56:58.000 your your safety tips are hunting in big fan, And 2232 01:56:58.119 --> 01:56:59.720 I just want to say, you know, number five dude 2233 01:56:59.760 --> 01:57:01.760 really kind of caught my attention, and I was wondering 2234 01:57:01.800 --> 01:57:04.119 if you could kind of elaborate on that. Dude he said, 2235 01:57:04.399 --> 01:57:07.920 he said, when in doubt, don't shoot? What do you 2236 01:57:07.960 --> 01:57:08.319 mean by that? 2237 01:57:08.439 --> 01:57:08.640 Brother? 2238 01:57:11.800 --> 01:57:14.319 I love how long it takes him to get to 2239 01:57:14.399 --> 01:57:17.760 the question. The preamble is like it's too much. He 2240 01:57:17.880 --> 01:57:20.119 thinks he can couches his paranoia. 2241 01:57:20.199 --> 01:57:23.000 He thinks he can. Yeah, yeah, he thinks you won't notice, 2242 01:57:23.640 --> 01:57:27.239 right exactly exactly. I mean, you don't shoot? Like where 2243 01:57:27.239 --> 01:57:28.239 you're thinking about shooting? 2244 01:57:28.319 --> 01:57:28.359 Like? 2245 01:57:28.560 --> 01:57:30.159 Is who you like? 2246 01:57:30.239 --> 01:57:30.439 Are you? 2247 01:57:30.680 --> 01:57:32.319 Are you like in a shoot? Dude? 2248 01:57:32.359 --> 01:57:32.760 Are you like? 2249 01:57:33.399 --> 01:57:35.359 Well? Brother? You know this has gone from work to 2250 01:57:35.439 --> 01:57:38.079 a shoot? Like, what's you know? Where are you at 2251 01:57:38.159 --> 01:57:42.079 with that? Brother? What's your what's your you know? Dude, Like, 2252 01:57:43.960 --> 01:57:46.119 what's your what's your kind of mentality on that? 2253 01:57:46.239 --> 01:57:46.439 Dude? 2254 01:57:46.479 --> 01:57:48.520 It's your angle? I mean, you're the big dog over 2255 01:57:48.560 --> 01:57:52.800 there now, brother. You know we're battling company company. Listen, Dude, 2256 01:57:52.800 --> 01:57:54.399 I want to tell you something. You know, I've been 2257 01:57:54.479 --> 01:57:56.159 the big dog over there, brother, I've been a big 2258 01:57:56.239 --> 01:57:58.800 dog on that big company up north. I kind of 2259 01:57:58.840 --> 01:58:00.920 I get what you're talking about, dude, Like you got 2260 01:58:00.920 --> 01:58:02.880 people kind of coming for you at all angles. Brother, 2261 01:58:03.399 --> 01:58:04.960 I just want to I want to ask you you 2262 01:58:05.239 --> 01:58:07.720 put that in there, dude? Are you saying that? Like, 2263 01:58:08.359 --> 01:58:10.640 are you advising people like not to shoot on me? 2264 01:58:11.239 --> 01:58:13.079 I mean I read number four, brother, and I was like, 2265 01:58:13.439 --> 01:58:15.840 that could have RAMI vacation for Hull Hogan as well. 2266 01:58:16.399 --> 01:58:18.239 You know what You're Yeah, dude, I was like, I'm 2267 01:58:18.239 --> 01:58:20.520 reading the whole thing, and I'm like, you know, be 2268 01:58:20.640 --> 01:58:23.319 sure what you're shooting at and what's beyond your target? Dude. 2269 01:58:23.600 --> 01:58:25.239 And I'm like, well, wait, wait a minute. You know 2270 01:58:25.399 --> 01:58:28.239 he is he's like got the championship brothers Now, he's 2271 01:58:28.279 --> 01:58:32.359 he's gonna go after whole Coogan. Am I beyond the target? 2272 01:58:32.439 --> 01:58:32.640 Brother? 2273 01:58:33.000 --> 01:58:33.960 Am I? Beyond the target? 2274 01:58:34.039 --> 01:58:34.239 Brother? 2275 01:58:34.319 --> 01:58:34.479 Am I? 2276 01:58:34.840 --> 01:58:37.880 Am? I? What's what's next? Dude? Like, I'm just trying 2277 01:58:37.880 --> 01:58:40.159 to get listen. I'm not trying to I'm not trying 2278 01:58:40.159 --> 01:58:41.439 to accuse you of anything, dude. I just want to 2279 01:58:41.479 --> 01:58:45.079 get all our ducks in a row, all right, brother. So, 2280 01:58:45.359 --> 01:58:53.000 So I just want to you know, like what I 2281 01:58:53.119 --> 01:58:54.600 just got. I just want to I guess here, here's 2282 01:58:54.640 --> 01:59:00.439 my question, Dude, are you coming for my tour? You 2283 01:59:00.520 --> 01:59:01.039 don't study? 2284 01:59:08.279 --> 01:59:10.880 Because last time our paths cross? Brother, All of a sudden, 2285 01:59:11.000 --> 01:59:13.600 I'm looking I'm looking up from the floor at Almondy 2286 01:59:13.600 --> 01:59:15.600 in New York, and and I gotta wonder if the 2287 01:59:15.680 --> 01:59:16.920 rugs being pulled out from under me. 2288 01:59:17.000 --> 01:59:19.359 Dude, not I read this, I'm saying myself. You know, 2289 01:59:19.520 --> 01:59:21.640 is this where they're pulling the trigger on on hul 2290 01:59:21.720 --> 01:59:25.960 Cogan too? Yeah? I'm just you know, I'm over here 2291 01:59:26.039 --> 01:59:28.199 happy for you. Are everything's done? You've been talking to 2292 01:59:28.239 --> 01:59:32.079 Bishoff dude, right like? Are you are you going to 2293 01:59:32.119 --> 01:59:33.159 be Hollywood Hogan too? 2294 01:59:33.279 --> 01:59:33.319 Like? 2295 01:59:33.399 --> 01:59:34.880 Are you gonna be Hollywood sit or something? 2296 01:59:34.960 --> 01:59:35.119 Brother? 2297 01:59:35.199 --> 01:59:38.680 To talk to Eric before putting this top ten list together? Brother, 2298 01:59:38.760 --> 01:59:41.479 I mean, it's just like a shot at hold Hoagan. 2299 01:59:42.279 --> 01:59:44.279 Was just you know, be all you know, d you 2300 01:59:44.279 --> 01:59:46.600 don't don't feel obtimated to, like, you know, tell me 2301 01:59:46.680 --> 01:59:48.399 something that you don't feel comfort to telling me. But 2302 01:59:48.520 --> 01:59:51.560 I'm just curious, dude, was it Eric's idea to put 2303 01:59:51.600 --> 01:59:54.760 this top ten list in there in the Spotlight magazine? Dude? 2304 01:59:56.479 --> 01:59:59.560 Was it Erics? Did Eric say we want to bring 2305 01:59:59.600 --> 02:00:02.520 you over be Hull COVID right and do it? Eric, 2306 02:00:02.640 --> 02:00:05.800 say that you're the third guy and you're already been 2307 02:00:05.840 --> 02:00:08.039 the third guy. Brother, And does he want like a big, 2308 02:00:08.359 --> 02:00:10.680 you know, double truck spread on how good you are 2309 02:00:10.680 --> 02:00:12.720 at shooting? Brother as send a message? I mean, is 2310 02:00:12.760 --> 02:00:15.119 he kind of get an idea of like how will you? 2311 02:00:15.239 --> 02:00:15.279 Like? 2312 02:00:16.880 --> 02:00:19.119 I just got to know, dude, what's your angle? Right? 2313 02:00:19.239 --> 02:00:21.479 I'm reading this You're so happy for your brother. I'm 2314 02:00:21.479 --> 02:00:23.479 reading all this great coverage, all these cool photos of 2315 02:00:23.520 --> 02:00:25.720 all the things we were working together that's in there. 2316 02:00:25.760 --> 02:00:27.880 That was great to see, brother, And then I get 2317 02:00:27.880 --> 02:00:29.600 to this article about how good of a shooter you 2318 02:00:29.680 --> 02:00:30.880 are and I'm like whoa. 2319 02:00:31.039 --> 02:00:32.880 Like whoa? I'm like, dude, I don't know about to 2320 02:00:32.880 --> 02:00:35.119 said dude, Like who do I put my trust in? 2321 02:00:35.279 --> 02:00:37.439 Just earlier in the same magazine, Brother, you're talking about 2322 02:00:37.479 --> 02:00:39.520 how I was never the same after we met at 2323 02:00:39.560 --> 02:00:41.159 Russell Lani, your brother, and I get that this you 2324 02:00:41.199 --> 02:00:43.680 know the wiz erk, right, it's a wiz erk, But 2325 02:00:43.960 --> 02:00:45.239 I don't know. I get to this article and I 2326 02:00:45.279 --> 02:00:46.720 got to wonder, like is this subliminal? 2327 02:00:46.840 --> 02:00:49.279 Brother, Like, like are you I mean, I basically what 2328 02:00:49.319 --> 02:00:51.399 I'm trying to say is, are you like, is this 2329 02:00:51.520 --> 02:00:54.279 like subliminal messaging? Dude? Are you warning me? Brother? Are 2330 02:00:54.279 --> 02:00:56.000 you saying hey, you know hall because time to look out, 2331 02:00:56.039 --> 02:01:00.479 dudecause I'm coming for your ass. I'm right now You're 2332 02:01:00.479 --> 02:01:04.960 gonna roll me up right exactly? Answer the question, Go ahead, 2333 02:01:05.319 --> 02:01:08.800 answer it. I'm also a little concert you haven't re 2334 02:01:08.920 --> 02:01:14.079 applied to anything I said. He's kind of standing there 2335 02:01:14.119 --> 02:01:17.119 with a blank stare where you're your your white baseball 2336 02:01:17.119 --> 02:01:18.479 at Dude, I'm just starting to get an idea of 2337 02:01:18.479 --> 02:01:21.279 where we're at, you know, in terms of I mean you. 2338 02:01:21.359 --> 02:01:24.079 Understand right said, you can't blame me for for having 2339 02:01:24.119 --> 02:01:26.720 to like, you know, cross this this dot this iron 2340 02:01:26.760 --> 02:01:28.840 crosses t brother. I mean, if this article came out, 2341 02:01:29.039 --> 02:01:29.359 I want to. 2342 02:01:29.359 --> 02:01:34.119 Say you it's nothing personally gets you, dude on emphasize 2343 02:01:34.159 --> 02:01:36.399 came out. I just got to know, brother, are you 2344 02:01:36.439 --> 02:01:38.520 trying to take me down? Exactly? Brother? I mean, if 2345 02:01:38.600 --> 02:01:40.640 w W magazine came out with an article about how 2346 02:01:40.680 --> 02:01:43.039 I like to shoot and how I went in doubt, 2347 02:01:43.079 --> 02:01:45.159 don't shoot, brother, I mean, you would be within your 2348 02:01:45.239 --> 02:01:46.720 rights as the champion in New York to call me. 2349 02:01:46.800 --> 02:01:48.880 I would expect you to feel the need to call 2350 02:01:48.960 --> 02:01:51.279 me and say, hey, you know, you know Hawk, what's 2351 02:01:51.319 --> 02:01:54.079 going on to you? You're shooting on me? Shooting I said, no, dude, 2352 02:01:54.079 --> 02:01:56.640 I'm not shooting on you. Brother, I'm not a magazine piece. 2353 02:01:56.680 --> 02:01:57.439 I have nothing to do with that. 2354 02:01:57.479 --> 02:01:59.119 And that's what I would say to you. Brother, full 2355 02:01:59.199 --> 02:02:01.600 of much them but love, dude. Yet I'm not getting 2356 02:02:01.640 --> 02:02:02.239 that from you yet. 2357 02:02:02.279 --> 02:02:02.479 Brother. 2358 02:02:03.119 --> 02:02:05.399 I'm I'm kind of feeling like you're you're hesitating game, 2359 02:02:06.319 --> 02:02:08.560 like we're not really on the same page with this, brother, 2360 02:02:09.039 --> 02:02:12.000 And I just want to know what your intention is, dude, 2361 02:02:12.560 --> 02:02:14.560 Like how far do you how far are you going 2362 02:02:14.600 --> 02:02:21.479 with this shooting thing? Like what's the end game? 2363 02:02:21.560 --> 02:02:21.800 Brother? 2364 02:02:22.039 --> 02:02:23.720 He doesn't take the hint and said his nut said 2365 02:02:23.720 --> 02:02:28.279 a word. He just keeps filling the silence with more questions. 2366 02:02:29.359 --> 02:02:29.439 Like. 2367 02:02:32.199 --> 02:02:41.560 I'm gonna look if it, If it's good, it's gonna 2368 02:02:41.600 --> 02:02:48.319 keep you from from like coming at me. Dude, We'll 2369 02:02:48.359 --> 02:02:49.920 give you the dose. Still be about white now, brother? 2370 02:02:52.159 --> 02:02:52.479 All right? 2371 02:02:52.600 --> 02:02:54.760 I mean I'm sitting here and I'm reading about how 2372 02:02:54.800 --> 02:02:57.479 you had this three hundred and three pounds buck charging 2373 02:02:57.560 --> 02:03:01.159 at you and that you shot on it. You shot 2374 02:03:01.199 --> 02:03:05.439 on him, dude, am I not supposed to read? Are you? 2375 02:03:05.720 --> 02:03:07.840 Am I a buck in your shot? Is this literal, brother, 2376 02:03:07.920 --> 02:03:12.079 or is this allegory? Like I just I'm trying to 2377 02:03:12.079 --> 02:03:15.079 figure out what the metaphor is here, dude, because I 2378 02:03:15.119 --> 02:03:17.119 don't just think this article appeared drop out of the sky. 2379 02:03:17.239 --> 02:03:19.119 Brother is a human interest piece. You don't bullshit a 2380 02:03:19.159 --> 02:03:20.960 bullshit her brother, You don't work a worker. 2381 02:03:24.840 --> 02:03:37.920 I just got no dude, what's the dis mhm? 2382 02:03:39.600 --> 02:03:42.880 I mean you're silent to speaking volumes. Dude, I gotta 2383 02:03:42.880 --> 02:03:45.359 tell you, brother, you're not making me feel any better 2384 02:03:45.399 --> 02:03:46.159 about the gimmick. 2385 02:03:47.520 --> 02:03:49.439 I what. 2386 02:03:52.000 --> 02:03:55.359 Mh the fact that I said what you didn't respond? 2387 02:03:55.479 --> 02:03:58.960 I'm and I can still see her on the line. 2388 02:03:59.000 --> 02:04:01.119 We didn't get disconnected. I can hear. I can hear 2389 02:04:01.159 --> 02:04:13.159 your breathing. Brother, I ever heard said, let me ask 2390 02:04:13.199 --> 02:04:30.479 you this brother, your court in this call? What a 2391 02:04:30.600 --> 02:04:39.119 sharp detour? What he's worried about? And then there's a click, 2392 02:04:44.159 --> 02:04:49.520 h are you. 2393 02:04:53.720 --> 02:04:54.119 Mm hmm? 2394 02:05:00.159 --> 02:05:03.039 You sent my church a case of being sausages and 2395 02:05:03.159 --> 02:05:04.800 I send him an autograph picture. 2396 02:05:07.359 --> 02:05:08.119 I didn't get a picture. 2397 02:05:08.159 --> 02:05:21.239 Brother said, listen, my church, it's a case of the 2398 02:05:22.600 --> 02:05:29.199 and a sausage and I send him an autograph picture. 2399 02:05:30.600 --> 02:05:33.039 What else is on the top ten list? Yeah? At 2400 02:05:33.119 --> 02:05:36.680 number six, respect and clean the land on which you hunt. 2401 02:05:38.119 --> 02:05:45.680 Number seven, always retrieve any game you shoot. Number eight. 2402 02:05:46.439 --> 02:05:49.279 Respect others in the woods, such as hikers and others. 2403 02:05:49.800 --> 02:05:55.319 It's for them to Number nine never harvests more than 2404 02:05:55.319 --> 02:06:01.159 a legal limit. Number ten, learn how to cook game. 2405 02:06:01.880 --> 02:06:05.079 It tastes great, and his lone fat and his family 2406 02:06:05.239 --> 02:06:09.560 fun well, fucking psycho literally. 2407 02:06:09.399 --> 02:06:11.319 Yeah, that actually makes me more scared of him than 2408 02:06:11.359 --> 02:06:12.760 anything they ever did on television. 2409 02:06:13.159 --> 02:06:13.359 Yeah. 2410 02:06:14.760 --> 02:06:17.199 And finally we go to his peers. These are others 2411 02:06:17.239 --> 02:06:20.000 around the federation, ask to weigh in on what makes 2412 02:06:20.039 --> 02:06:23.680 Sid sid? First up, crush three words? Make Sid a 2413 02:06:23.720 --> 02:06:27.079 great champion, bred a strong, impressive, and psychotic. But he 2414 02:06:27.119 --> 02:06:30.760 will only have the title until I get to him. Okay, 2415 02:06:30.880 --> 02:06:34.600 Brian Adams, Okay, okay, first champion in w FI history 2416 02:06:34.640 --> 02:06:37.960 to have a nose ring running into his ear, and 2417 02:06:38.039 --> 02:06:39.760 then we will see just how strong his heart is. 2418 02:06:39.840 --> 02:06:41.720 How about the goon? What does the goon have to say? 2419 02:06:42.600 --> 02:06:42.920 Psycho? 2420 02:06:43.000 --> 02:06:44.600 Sid will go a heck of a long way. And 2421 02:06:44.600 --> 02:06:47.680 there weren't Wrestling Federation farther than that, sissy boy. We 2422 02:06:47.760 --> 02:06:49.920 had as a champion before him. But hey, I wouldn't 2423 02:06:49.920 --> 02:06:52.279 mind whacking that paranoid brain of his back in place 2424 02:06:52.319 --> 02:06:58.439 with my hockey stick if given the chance. Savio, Sid 2425 02:06:58.560 --> 02:07:00.479 is a great chump because the men try like a 2426 02:07:00.600 --> 02:07:03.319 machine every day. Im Eagle, He's had the hunger inside 2427 02:07:03.359 --> 02:07:05.039 of him for a long time and it's going to 2428 02:07:05.039 --> 02:07:08.239 be hard to get that belt away from him. Shabbia Bubble, 2429 02:07:08.319 --> 02:07:10.520 jjse James. I don't think Sid is going to go 2430 02:07:10.720 --> 02:07:12.479 very far as a champion. It was a fluke that 2431 02:07:12.560 --> 02:07:14.880 he beat someone with the caliber Shawn Michaels in the 2432 02:07:14.920 --> 02:07:17.239 first place. Billy Gunn. He's got the. 2433 02:07:17.279 --> 02:07:19.000 Size and the skill, but does he truly have the 2434 02:07:19.079 --> 02:07:21.439 talent that I have without a doubt? No why. 2435 02:07:22.000 --> 02:07:24.000 I don't care what these other idiots think, But once 2436 02:07:24.039 --> 02:07:26.479 Sid stops running and gives me a match, he is 2437 02:07:26.560 --> 02:07:30.680 as good as roped cattle in my book. Jake Roberts Boss. 2438 02:07:32.319 --> 02:07:35.600 I was surprised Sid won the belt, not down his skills, 2439 02:07:35.600 --> 02:07:38.600 but I was amazed he could actually beat Sean. As 2440 02:07:38.680 --> 02:07:40.520 far as whether he will be a great champion, it 2441 02:07:40.680 --> 02:07:42.680 just depends on who you match up with. Who you 2442 02:07:42.760 --> 02:07:46.359 match him up with. A champion is only as good 2443 02:07:47.079 --> 02:07:48.319 as the many faces. 2444 02:07:48.119 --> 02:07:50.359 If Cassidy, only any living man can beat said in 2445 02:07:50.439 --> 02:07:53.119 the long run, except me, Without a doubt, it won't 2446 02:07:53.119 --> 02:07:55.239 be long before I boogy all over his thick skull 2447 02:07:55.279 --> 02:07:57.119 and shine at that nice piece of gold to mount 2448 02:07:57.479 --> 02:08:01.239 on the dashboard of the rockermobile. Don't digressed, No, really, 2449 02:08:01.279 --> 02:08:04.800 you could care less if Sid is a great champion 2450 02:08:04.960 --> 02:08:07.760 or not. If I got a shot against me Da, 2451 02:08:07.760 --> 02:08:09.720 I'm sure won't be holding on that belt very low 2452 02:08:10.640 --> 02:08:17.079 on Hurst Helmsley as far as I'm concerned. As far 2453 02:08:17.159 --> 02:08:19.399 as I'm concerned, Sid go lucky. 2454 02:08:21.119 --> 02:08:23.640 I can't even do his fucking his his idiotic voice. 2455 02:08:23.800 --> 02:08:25.119 He's like in ninety six. 2456 02:08:25.159 --> 02:08:27.760 We would like did a Hampshire accent, still kind of 2457 02:08:27.840 --> 02:08:28.520 creeping in just. 2458 02:08:28.600 --> 02:08:32.720 A little bit, and his voice is like so like 2459 02:08:32.880 --> 02:08:35.000 it's just very weird. It's very weird. It is. It 2460 02:08:35.079 --> 02:08:37.439 doesn't have the base in it yet. Yeah. At the 2461 02:08:37.479 --> 02:08:40.600 Survivor series against Sean Michaels, I don't see him being 2462 02:08:40.640 --> 02:08:44.159 a champion very long due to his mental instability. The 2463 02:08:44.279 --> 02:08:46.600 man should have remained locked up in that sell of 2464 02:08:46.680 --> 02:08:51.880 his far away from civil human beings like myself, Mark Merrow, 2465 02:08:52.159 --> 02:08:55.239 you know the very first time I saw said, I 2466 02:08:55.279 --> 02:08:57.159 said to myself, this guy is going to be a 2467 02:08:57.239 --> 02:08:59.159 champion somewhere down the road. I guess I'm not too 2468 02:08:59.199 --> 02:09:01.840 surprised that he beats Sean. But Sid's worst enemy in 2469 02:09:01.880 --> 02:09:05.439 the long run will be himself. Don't get me wrong, though, 2470 02:09:05.520 --> 02:09:11.039 He's the man to beat now jb Al Sid is 2471 02:09:11.039 --> 02:09:13.239 one of the greatest athletic talents our sport has ever seen. 2472 02:09:13.239 --> 02:09:15.640 In the past decade, Sean was great as a champion. 2473 02:09:15.720 --> 02:09:17.520 When you look at Sid, you see a man who 2474 02:09:17.600 --> 02:09:20.199 is almost seven feet tall and more than three hundred pounds. 2475 02:09:20.600 --> 02:09:23.560 Yes, you do, that's true. I've heard that that is 2476 02:09:23.600 --> 02:09:26.079 a major force to reckon with. Boy, we heard from mankind, 2477 02:09:26.159 --> 02:09:28.159 he says. Psycho said, can go straight to some place 2478 02:09:28.239 --> 02:09:31.239 he belongs. Okay, you see, Uncle Paul has alerted me 2479 02:09:31.319 --> 02:09:32.479 to look into Sid's eyes, and do. 2480 02:09:32.560 --> 02:09:35.000 You know what I see? Fear? That shows me that 2481 02:09:35.079 --> 02:09:38.520 he's not that crazy. After all, He's got the most 2482 02:09:38.600 --> 02:09:41.079 common sense to fear mankind as well. He should. 2483 02:09:41.199 --> 02:09:46.039 Flash Funk says that I was smoking big fucking hash 2484 02:09:47.239 --> 02:09:49.079 and that Sid will go a long way as World 2485 02:09:49.079 --> 02:09:51.279 Wrestling Federation champion because he is a big man with 2486 02:09:51.399 --> 02:09:53.840 big skills, just like a lot of people say, the 2487 02:09:53.920 --> 02:09:55.720 man is psycho and that's a tough thing to deal 2488 02:09:55.760 --> 02:09:57.399 with in the ring. You never know what that boy 2489 02:09:57.560 --> 02:09:59.199 is going to do to hold on to that belt. 2490 02:10:00.000 --> 02:10:02.199 Garry Lawler says, I'm sure all the inmates back at 2491 02:10:02.239 --> 02:10:04.680 the Looney Band we're proud of that stupid head case. 2492 02:10:05.119 --> 02:10:07.319 He's got the physical skills, but he obviously needs a 2493 02:10:07.399 --> 02:10:08.439 check up from the neck up. 2494 02:10:09.279 --> 02:10:11.800 I'm at Johnson, that's awful. 2495 02:10:13.119 --> 02:10:15.479 I'm at Johnson thinks Sid winning the title was something 2496 02:10:15.520 --> 02:10:18.039 that was long overdue and that he's gonna go a 2497 02:10:18.119 --> 02:10:20.880 long way because I really can't see anyone stepping up 2498 02:10:20.880 --> 02:10:23.199 to the plate to beat him except me when I 2499 02:10:23.239 --> 02:10:28.199 get the chance. And we hear from Bart Gunn okay, 2500 02:10:28.520 --> 02:10:31.000 we've been waiting for. Sid's got quite a powerful man 2501 02:10:31.079 --> 02:10:33.239 in my book, partner. He's big, tall, and athletic, a 2502 02:10:33.319 --> 02:10:35.880 complete package. I don't see anyone beating him and win 2503 02:10:35.920 --> 02:10:37.920 the Federation and win the Federation title. I just see 2504 02:10:37.960 --> 02:10:40.159 him getting confidence and going stronger as time goes on. 2505 02:10:40.880 --> 02:10:43.159 Sonny thinks Sid is going to be a perfect champion 2506 02:10:43.199 --> 02:10:44.279 and the word Wrestling Federation. 2507 02:10:44.359 --> 02:10:44.600 Honey. 2508 02:10:44.840 --> 02:10:46.359 Not only does he have the size to be a 2509 02:10:46.399 --> 02:10:53.720 great champion. But he's insane, she would know. After all, 2510 02:10:53.760 --> 02:10:55.439 we are in a land of giants, she says, And 2511 02:10:55.520 --> 02:10:57.720 he's got that attitude you need to win at all costs. 2512 02:10:58.159 --> 02:10:59.439 And hey, you never know what could happen in the 2513 02:10:59.479 --> 02:11:02.000 future between him and me, Babe. Maybe Sunny could be 2514 02:11:02.079 --> 02:11:05.720 ringside for his matches, always recruiting someone with a gold 2515 02:11:06.359 --> 02:11:08.600 I know, right heart, I never saw an eye with 2516 02:11:08.680 --> 02:11:11.600 Sewn Michaels, but I was disappointed all to see his 2517 02:11:11.680 --> 02:11:14.279 reign end like that against Psycho Sid. It's a sad 2518 02:11:14.359 --> 02:11:16.439 state of affairs. A world champion whos worked as hard 2519 02:11:16.479 --> 02:11:19.720 as Sean has can be whacked over the head with 2520 02:11:19.760 --> 02:11:21.640 a camera and power bombed into the mat to lose 2521 02:11:21.720 --> 02:11:23.960 his title. If I were Sid, I would have never 2522 02:11:24.079 --> 02:11:25.840 kept the title. I would have been ashamed to have 2523 02:11:25.920 --> 02:11:28.000 wont it the way he did. Of course, you would 2524 02:11:28.000 --> 02:11:29.960 have mean while he goes on to win titles like that, 2525 02:11:30.319 --> 02:11:34.000 that's SummerSlam in ninety seven. Rocky by via Sid is 2526 02:11:34.039 --> 02:11:37.279 the champion. It's as simple as that. Thanks Rocky, with 2527 02:11:37.359 --> 02:11:39.279 the World Wrestling Federation title around his ways, it tells 2528 02:11:39.319 --> 02:11:40.600 me that he's going to take someone with a lot 2529 02:11:40.640 --> 02:11:42.600 of experience to take a big body like his down 2530 02:11:42.640 --> 02:11:45.479 for the three count. Hopefully I get that chance somewhere 2531 02:11:45.520 --> 02:11:46.000 down the road. 2532 02:11:47.520 --> 02:11:49.359 I'll not with him. So there you go. 2533 02:11:49.479 --> 02:11:54.039 In house propaganda as it regards Sid the Spotlight pages 2534 02:11:54.079 --> 02:11:57.039 as World Wrestling Federation Champion, it's the cid Era, boss, 2535 02:11:57.680 --> 02:11:59.680 it is, and we can't we can't talk around it. 2536 02:12:00.079 --> 02:12:03.439 It is the cid Era that magazine giving us a 2537 02:12:03.520 --> 02:12:05.680 look at all kinds of components of the man. After 2538 02:12:05.760 --> 02:12:10.479 Survivor Series on television, Vince doing commentary calls Sid unquestionably 2539 02:12:10.560 --> 02:12:13.600 the most intense man to ever wear the title, and 2540 02:12:13.760 --> 02:12:16.039 Vince and pettent Gil really that's what he says. 2541 02:12:16.119 --> 02:12:17.239 Yeah, really. 2542 02:12:17.439 --> 02:12:19.079 On this clip, Vince and Petton Gill are going on 2543 02:12:19.159 --> 02:12:22.399 and on about how Shawn Michaels put compassion for his 2544 02:12:22.560 --> 02:12:26.399 true friend beyond his title ambitions by caring for Jose 2545 02:12:26.560 --> 02:12:29.319 Lothario and that critical moment during the Survivor Series match 2546 02:12:29.359 --> 02:12:32.840 when Lothario had been hit by Sid and Sean took 2547 02:12:32.880 --> 02:12:35.319 his eye off the ball to make sure Lothario was okay. 2548 02:12:36.000 --> 02:12:37.760 And here is Sid speaking for the first time is 2549 02:12:37.920 --> 02:12:42.359 WWF Champion on WWF television, giving his take on how 2550 02:12:42.439 --> 02:12:43.279 to interpret all of that. 2551 02:12:44.359 --> 02:12:46.079 It's about lad and Tillman. 2552 02:12:46.479 --> 02:12:49.800 Why you're playing in the world US played veneration Champion. 2553 02:13:00.840 --> 02:13:04.800 What if the manage last night, albeit controversial, you have 2554 02:13:04.960 --> 02:13:08.079 thousands upon thousands of fans and medicines Square Garden that 2555 02:13:08.199 --> 02:13:10.640 were cheering you on a lot of folks that it 2556 02:13:10.680 --> 02:13:13.680 can never happen that you were too unstable, but that 2557 02:13:13.840 --> 02:13:14.520 was not the case. 2558 02:13:14.560 --> 02:13:15.279 You are of the Man. 2559 02:13:15.880 --> 02:13:16.920 It is your time. 2560 02:13:18.000 --> 02:13:20.039 But do you have any remorse. 2561 02:13:19.880 --> 02:13:22.600 Over your accents last night as it relates to Sean 2562 02:13:22.640 --> 02:13:25.279 Michaels or the sixty two year old Josela Thario. 2563 02:13:26.000 --> 02:13:27.079 I got to say no. 2564 02:13:27.319 --> 02:13:31.079 The reason why that's because JOSEI I made I have 2565 02:13:31.199 --> 02:13:34.359 played respect for but you put your ass. 2566 02:13:34.279 --> 02:13:38.760 On the apron and then you even came for the game. 2567 02:13:39.840 --> 02:13:40.479 And then when you. 2568 02:13:40.560 --> 02:13:44.600 Play the game with the Man, they only the three 2569 02:13:45.039 --> 02:13:45.880 can't count with that? 2570 02:13:46.279 --> 02:13:48.720 Yes, what of the Michaels. 2571 02:13:48.800 --> 02:13:51.199 What about a rematch with a heartbreak kid? 2572 02:13:52.399 --> 02:13:56.199 Yeah, heartbreak kin. You want a rematch, you got it. 2573 02:13:56.520 --> 02:13:59.840 I'll beat you once and then that time I'll beat 2574 02:13:59.880 --> 02:14:02.880 you again because I am. 2575 02:14:07.600 --> 02:14:12.119 Because I am the man, will I am the master. 2576 02:14:12.840 --> 02:14:15.399 And the ruler of the world. 2577 02:14:16.880 --> 02:14:21.600 Seventy superstars are lining up to challenge you. Vader song Co, 2578 02:14:21.840 --> 02:14:26.680 Steve Austin, the Undertaker, and on December fifteenth, the legendary 2579 02:14:26.960 --> 02:14:28.520 Britt the Hitman Heart. 2580 02:14:28.720 --> 02:14:32.319 We'll go hold on round with here, Wwrcyle. 2581 02:14:32.720 --> 02:14:35.359 Are you going to be a fighting champion? 2582 02:14:35.920 --> 02:14:37.039 I'll tell you something. 2583 02:14:37.680 --> 02:14:41.079 I was dever o'clock to wrestle again. Beat me, Boll 2584 02:14:41.159 --> 02:14:46.239 called me back. Stephen Bieball made me and Jef ben 2585 02:14:47.479 --> 02:14:53.960 be for the baseball. I will be my fighting jafman. 2586 02:14:55.319 --> 02:14:56.239 Who have hurt out. 2587 02:14:56.199 --> 02:15:00.239 Brett Hart specifically, he's looking to Rigga the ww. 2588 02:15:00.079 --> 02:15:02.319 A Poddle for the fourth time. 2589 02:15:06.039 --> 02:15:13.560 Brett, my friend, you're trying to make comportunity. You're trying 2590 02:15:13.600 --> 02:15:16.039 to make retiputation to going. 2591 02:15:15.880 --> 02:15:16.720 Through this store. 2592 02:15:19.680 --> 02:15:24.560 Will you wrestling come back in the Wrestling World Wrestling 2593 02:15:24.640 --> 02:15:30.880 Federation will end like that on December fifteenth, because you 2594 02:15:31.039 --> 02:15:35.079 have to face me, Britain Man, hit Man, Brickman. 2595 02:15:35.920 --> 02:15:37.199 You have to face me. 2596 02:15:39.800 --> 02:15:40.439 The Master. 2597 02:15:41.600 --> 02:15:45.840 The game is simple, my friend. Two minutes there, one 2598 02:15:45.920 --> 02:15:53.520 man survives the Decemblar system. When the snow clears, I 2599 02:15:53.680 --> 02:15:58.840 will be standing firm the Master, and I am a ruler. 2600 02:15:59.399 --> 02:16:05.119 By the who You're your world wrestling flight end. 2601 02:16:06.479 --> 02:16:22.319 He's the Lapsed Fall wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that 2602 02:16:22.479 --> 02:16:25.920 knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. 2603 02:16:40.639 --> 02:16:44.520 He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio 2604 02:16:44.920 --> 02:16:45.920 and JPI Sooro. 2605 02:16:46.840 --> 02:16:50.200 So yeah, hardly a home run there, No, not at all. 2606 02:16:50.319 --> 02:16:52.120 That was a awful Remember what. 2607 02:16:52.239 --> 02:16:54.079 Jim Cornette said, It wrings in our head right why 2608 02:16:54.159 --> 02:16:56.000 he had to be paired with Million Dollar Man because 2609 02:16:56.399 --> 02:17:00.559 right beyond delivering an explosive one minute of xatives, so 2610 02:17:00.719 --> 02:17:04.440 to speak, Sid really can't remember everything he's supposed to 2611 02:17:04.680 --> 02:17:07.879 hit on the promos, the data, Michelle, the opponent, he 2612 02:17:08.000 --> 02:17:12.000 says master and Ruler of the world twice. It's not 2613 02:17:12.239 --> 02:17:13.719 the kind of promo you hope to hear from a 2614 02:17:13.760 --> 02:17:17.239 guy who just won the world title for the first time, right, 2615 02:17:17.559 --> 02:17:20.639 not at all. We're on this track and they're setting 2616 02:17:20.719 --> 02:17:22.760 up the Royal Rumble, which of course was in January 2617 02:17:22.799 --> 02:17:25.440 of nineteen ninety seven at the Alamo Dome in San Antonio, Texas. 2618 02:17:25.879 --> 02:17:28.959 Very ambitious venue for the WWF to run for a rumble, 2619 02:17:29.239 --> 02:17:33.600 especially in this time period where they were struggling, especially VISAVWCW, 2620 02:17:34.159 --> 02:17:36.319 but the whole attraction to Sean Michaels. The San Antonio 2621 02:17:36.360 --> 02:17:38.600 boy is going to get his rematch against Sid if 2622 02:17:39.159 --> 02:17:41.280 Sid emerges from the title match against Brett Hart at 2623 02:17:41.280 --> 02:17:43.760 the its time in your House as champion. They had 2624 02:17:43.840 --> 02:17:47.079 kind of a tough time kind of basically telling San 2625 02:17:47.079 --> 02:17:49.479 Antonio that they were going to get Sean getting revenge 2626 02:17:49.559 --> 02:17:53.920 on Sid without right right for running the result of 2627 02:17:53.959 --> 02:17:56.840 the Brett match. So they're threading that needle carefully through 2628 02:17:56.879 --> 02:18:00.200 the winter of nineteen ninety six. But that's already in place. 2629 02:18:00.239 --> 02:18:01.840 The venue is booked and they got to start moving tickets. 2630 02:18:01.879 --> 02:18:03.639 They've got to start convincing people that this is going 2631 02:18:03.680 --> 02:18:06.280 to be a big homecoming and a big thing to 2632 02:18:06.360 --> 02:18:08.959 be there for to see Shawn Michaels achieve. So they 2633 02:18:09.000 --> 02:18:11.920 set up a big old press conference in San Antonio 2634 02:18:12.600 --> 02:18:15.879 and you know, the Alamo theme is there. They introduce 2635 02:18:15.920 --> 02:18:18.000 a lot of the Triple A wrestlers. Remember in that 2636 02:18:18.079 --> 02:18:19.959 rumble Boss, they brought in a lot of lootra doors. 2637 02:18:20.799 --> 02:18:21.000 Yep. 2638 02:18:21.079 --> 02:18:23.680 I remember, not a fan, but I remember. 2639 02:18:23.760 --> 02:18:26.319 Forged a promotional alliance hopefully to get a little bit 2640 02:18:26.360 --> 02:18:29.280 of the you know, the Mexican fans to cross over 2641 02:18:29.440 --> 02:18:31.239 and come to the show and help fill the building up, 2642 02:18:31.600 --> 02:18:34.840 get some some buzz going on on Mexican wrestling television 2643 02:18:34.840 --> 02:18:36.840 as well as their own television network for the show, 2644 02:18:37.440 --> 02:18:41.120 and that all starts to blossom. And of course the 2645 02:18:41.239 --> 02:18:43.879 dais is there for Sewn and Sid to carry on 2646 02:18:44.559 --> 02:18:48.040 and to get people fired up for the show. Problem 2647 02:18:48.200 --> 02:18:51.399 is Brett's there as well, of course, because he's got 2648 02:18:51.520 --> 02:18:54.319 to keep open the possibility that he's going to go 2649 02:18:54.360 --> 02:18:58.239 into the the Royal Rumble show is Champion. But missing 2650 02:18:59.399 --> 02:19:02.719 from the day, missing from the press conference for the 2651 02:19:02.799 --> 02:19:03.959 nineteen ninety seven Royal. 2652 02:19:03.879 --> 02:19:07.479 Rumble was Sid. Oh thank god. 2653 02:19:08.399 --> 02:19:13.719 They play this package on their television show about how 2654 02:19:13.840 --> 02:19:16.760 huge this press conference was and how impactful it is 2655 02:19:17.520 --> 02:19:18.920 and how Sean's going to get a shot at the 2656 02:19:18.959 --> 02:19:22.360 championship against whoever may be the champion, And the champion 2657 02:19:22.440 --> 02:19:26.799 isn't there, and you might ask yourself, what kind of 2658 02:19:26.840 --> 02:19:30.239 game is he playing? We've seen this from Sid, we 2659 02:19:30.360 --> 02:19:34.159 studied his career thus far. Yes, or, according to Bruce Pritchard, 2660 02:19:34.200 --> 02:19:36.559 who was in the front office at the time, the 2661 02:19:36.680 --> 02:19:39.760 reason for Sid's absence much more prosaic. 2662 02:19:41.520 --> 02:19:44.319 Well, he overslept. 2663 02:19:45.920 --> 02:19:48.760 And that was that was it. 2664 02:19:48.920 --> 02:19:50.920 It was like what's the big deal. It's a press conference. 2665 02:19:51.840 --> 02:19:57.520 Well, we had done TV in the next day, myself, Vince, Sean, 2666 02:20:00.200 --> 02:20:02.239 I think the marketing people were already there. But we 2667 02:20:02.360 --> 02:20:08.319 all get on the plane in Hartford and looking around 2668 02:20:08.399 --> 02:20:10.040 and I'm saying, where the hell Sid? 2669 02:20:10.840 --> 02:20:14.000 There's no Sid. We're trying to find out, were you 2670 02:20:14.159 --> 02:20:15.079 s SID? Last night? 2671 02:20:15.200 --> 02:20:18.319 It's like no, And a couple of the boys were 2672 02:20:19.040 --> 02:20:21.920 in the airport and I'm asking, I'm going down the 2673 02:20:22.120 --> 02:20:25.360 aisle asking anybody anybody's seen Sid. Didn't see him? Didn't 2674 02:20:25.360 --> 02:20:30.520 see him? Very uncharacteristic for Sid. Well, we get on 2675 02:20:30.639 --> 02:20:34.120 the plane. We're calling all the hotels in the area. 2676 02:20:34.559 --> 02:20:35.040 No Sid. 2677 02:20:36.680 --> 02:20:39.600 We all three get on the plane, myself, Vince, and Sean, 2678 02:20:40.639 --> 02:20:45.000 and we go down for this huge press conference. Man, 2679 02:20:45.120 --> 02:20:49.840 we had this square in downtown San Antonio, this beautiful 2680 02:20:50.079 --> 02:20:53.719 Spanish square, all rented out to make the announcement of 2681 02:20:53.840 --> 02:20:57.000 Shawn Michaels, you know, coming home and all this bullshit. 2682 02:20:57.399 --> 02:21:01.719 He's gonna face Psycho Sid and no world champion. 2683 02:21:03.280 --> 02:21:07.440 And finally Vince gets a hold of him around noon 2684 02:21:07.559 --> 02:21:10.280 one o'clock and he just was like, I guess I overslept. 2685 02:21:11.040 --> 02:21:14.040 I guess so Vince was pretty fucking pissed, to say 2686 02:21:14.079 --> 02:21:14.799 the very least. 2687 02:21:14.840 --> 02:21:17.440 And we we had Antonio Pena from Triple A and 2688 02:21:18.000 --> 02:21:19.680 a lot of the Triple A guys there. 2689 02:21:19.879 --> 02:21:21.120 We made it work. 2690 02:21:21.399 --> 02:21:25.600 But if you'd imagine today the champion no showing a 2691 02:21:25.680 --> 02:21:26.920 major press conference for a. 2692 02:21:26.959 --> 02:21:29.639 Major pay per view, it just wouldn't happen. 2693 02:21:29.760 --> 02:21:32.159 And that was when Vince was kind of like, well, 2694 02:21:33.000 --> 02:21:35.879 only a little while longer than he's going to be 2695 02:21:36.559 --> 02:21:37.879 in that position, and. 2696 02:21:39.479 --> 02:21:40.799 Bit the bullet and we moved on. 2697 02:21:41.079 --> 02:21:44.600 But that was a major fuck up, and that was 2698 02:21:44.719 --> 02:21:46.799 one that kind of stuck in Vince's craws for a 2699 02:21:46.879 --> 02:21:51.040 while because Seawan was had been out. Sean stayed up 2700 02:21:51.079 --> 02:21:53.879 all night long with Austin and they had been drinking 2701 02:21:53.920 --> 02:21:59.159 all night, and Sean was showed up, had been drinking 2702 02:21:59.200 --> 02:22:02.360 all night, pretty fucked up, got on the plane and 2703 02:22:02.479 --> 02:22:06.000 he made it. But yet, you know, Sid, the guy 2704 02:22:06.040 --> 02:22:08.239 that doesn't go out and party, the guy that is, 2705 02:22:08.440 --> 02:22:11.879 you know, mister reliable, no shows and can't be found 2706 02:22:11.920 --> 02:22:14.799 and just thinks it's okay to say I overslept. 2707 02:22:14.879 --> 02:22:19.200 It was just a press conference. So that was again 2708 02:22:19.319 --> 02:22:22.280 one of those beginning of the ends in a lot 2709 02:22:22.319 --> 02:22:22.879 of respects. 2710 02:22:23.719 --> 02:22:26.959 I can't imagine why Sid never got his Just do boss, Yeah, 2711 02:22:27.000 --> 02:22:30.760 I know, right, unbelievable. Why do not get that six 2712 02:22:30.879 --> 02:22:35.520 month run? Well, well, Pallyannoi, you did oversleep the. 2713 02:22:37.440 --> 02:22:38.479 That doesn't matter. 2714 02:22:41.159 --> 02:22:42.520 It kind of doesn't matter. I mean, you know, we 2715 02:22:42.639 --> 02:22:50.840 have we have the shot exactly exactly the shat you 2716 02:22:50.920 --> 02:22:54.479 think that works on everybody and on everything. He thinks 2717 02:22:54.520 --> 02:22:56.840 it works. Of course Coruly does. 2718 02:22:57.840 --> 02:23:00.319 So they're trying to get tickets sold for this rumble 2719 02:23:00.360 --> 02:23:03.600 and they don't have a champ there. You know, Bruce, 2720 02:23:03.600 --> 02:23:05.200 I think is kind of putting the card before the 2721 02:23:05.239 --> 02:23:08.600 horse a bit one, suggesting that they were announcing Sid 2722 02:23:08.680 --> 02:23:11.280 and Sean because they still have the the It's time 2723 02:23:11.319 --> 02:23:14.639 thing to get through with. But in the NAPTI Convention, 2724 02:23:14.760 --> 02:23:17.319 the National Association of Television Producers, where you know, you know, 2725 02:23:17.440 --> 02:23:19.319 Vince would always set up a booth and Breck would 2726 02:23:19.319 --> 02:23:21.120 set up a booth, and they would have this big 2727 02:23:21.200 --> 02:23:24.360 show for television to sell their television ad time, mostly 2728 02:23:24.479 --> 02:23:28.559 in syndicated side. Sid apparently was there representing the WWBF. 2729 02:23:28.639 --> 02:23:30.120 This took place, according to the records I could find, 2730 02:23:30.159 --> 02:23:32.600 on January fourteenth of the fifteenth, nineteen ninety seven in 2731 02:23:32.680 --> 02:23:35.520 New Orleans, Louisiana. Sid calls out the NAPTI convention in 2732 02:23:35.559 --> 02:23:37.639 New Orleans when I'm talking about this and shoot interviews, 2733 02:23:37.799 --> 02:23:39.520 And it was during this period of time, which I 2734 02:23:39.559 --> 02:23:43.079 believe is subsequent to the aforementioned San Antonio press conference, 2735 02:23:43.440 --> 02:23:46.239 that he kind of talked it through as far as 2736 02:23:46.239 --> 02:23:48.360 where they're going for this show and where they're going 2737 02:23:48.479 --> 02:23:51.559 for Sid's title reign in his short term future. And 2738 02:23:51.680 --> 02:23:54.040 again to hear Sid tell it, he talked himself into 2739 02:23:54.079 --> 02:23:56.399 thinking that he actually could get a run, that there 2740 02:23:56.479 --> 02:23:59.920 was a way out of this, this this title win 2741 02:24:00.319 --> 02:24:02.399 that didn't involve him losing it directly back to Sean 2742 02:24:02.479 --> 02:24:05.319 and San Antonio. And here in an R video shoot interview, 2743 02:24:05.399 --> 02:24:08.040 Sid what counts talking to Vince McMahon at the NAPTI 2744 02:24:08.079 --> 02:24:11.079 convention about what was about to happen to his first 2745 02:24:11.479 --> 02:24:12.559 WWF title run. 2746 02:24:13.200 --> 02:24:16.559 Now, because that was the idea, you know, I guess 2747 02:24:17.120 --> 02:24:20.920 I hear say that Sean's dream was to be in 2748 02:24:20.959 --> 02:24:23.239 a big show like that in his hometown. 2749 02:24:23.879 --> 02:24:24.239 All Right. 2750 02:24:24.760 --> 02:24:28.239 The agreement was this, I take the belt at Survivor 2751 02:24:28.360 --> 02:24:30.440 series and we'd keep it only as long as I 2752 02:24:30.559 --> 02:24:37.559 was drawn. Okay, going to the Nazi Convention or wherever 2753 02:24:37.559 --> 02:24:41.319 it's called, the New Orleans representing the WWF, you know, 2754 02:24:43.120 --> 02:24:45.799 one day and Vincent I went in and we were talking. 2755 02:24:45.879 --> 02:24:48.799 He said, said, he's right, two uns for you. 2756 02:24:48.920 --> 02:24:53.639 Drop that belt back to Sean and san Antonio. I said, Evince, 2757 02:24:53.680 --> 02:24:55.520 I said, you say the things were core good that 2758 02:24:55.639 --> 02:24:58.040 you know, we want to think about it at least 2759 02:24:58.120 --> 02:25:00.959 or talk about it. He said, no, See what I'm 2760 02:25:00.959 --> 02:25:03.799 gonna do is this this is on down. We're gonna 2761 02:25:03.920 --> 02:25:07.239 drop it on me, putting on there, and then we're 2762 02:25:07.239 --> 02:25:09.120 gonna do a thirteen hour roll and each will put 2763 02:25:09.120 --> 02:25:12.319 it back on you there. And that was my understanding. 2764 02:25:13.319 --> 02:25:16.040 Was and that they did have all they had. The 2765 02:25:16.120 --> 02:25:18.920 Thursday night wrong was scheduled but didn't go as planned. 2766 02:25:19.840 --> 02:25:22.280 You know, Sean came out and gave the classic interview 2767 02:25:22.319 --> 02:25:24.719 about losing his smile and never wound up, you know, 2768 02:25:25.040 --> 02:25:26.000 losing the title that night. 2769 02:25:26.159 --> 02:25:29.159 Was there any personal resignment from you towards Sewn. 2770 02:25:29.159 --> 02:25:31.319 No that night, not Mae, because they'll tell you what 2771 02:25:31.399 --> 02:25:33.799 this step my business, that's his business, and that's what 2772 02:25:34.000 --> 02:25:36.399 I don't nobody in my business. If I want to 2773 02:25:37.239 --> 02:25:39.440 do a no show or I want to fucking cuss 2774 02:25:39.520 --> 02:25:43.200 up promotion. You know, I want my freedom to do 2775 02:25:43.280 --> 02:25:46.319 what I want to do if I want, you know whatever. 2776 02:25:46.639 --> 02:25:50.280 I don't judge anybody, but that's Sean. That's what Sean 2777 02:25:50.360 --> 02:25:53.479 want to do. More power shot. It didn't bother me 2778 02:25:53.559 --> 02:25:59.159 at all, you know. Uh, of course it's unprofessional, but 2779 02:25:59.440 --> 02:26:02.239 you know didn't because it pays the same. 2780 02:26:02.479 --> 02:26:03.319 Right, you know what I mean? 2781 02:26:03.719 --> 02:26:03.840 Right? 2782 02:26:04.559 --> 02:26:07.120 And the only reason I asked is because it's now 2783 02:26:07.200 --> 02:26:09.520 infamous about the problems that Brent and Sean had behind 2784 02:26:09.520 --> 02:26:12.000 the scenes, and it seemed like it's them from Sean 2785 02:26:12.079 --> 02:26:13.920 not wanted to put Brett back over and Brett take 2786 02:26:14.000 --> 02:26:16.719 it personally. That's why I asked with you. And you 2787 02:26:16.799 --> 02:26:19.959 actually did some three ways with Breton Sean. Could you 2788 02:26:20.079 --> 02:26:23.079 sense any tension between the two during the Three Ways? 2789 02:26:23.239 --> 02:26:31.680 Yeah, I was putting little situations like but uh, we 2790 02:26:31.799 --> 02:26:34.719 all came out of it every night pretty good. It 2791 02:26:34.840 --> 02:26:36.719 was a weird batch for it. Who booked out pretty good? 2792 02:26:38.680 --> 02:26:38.840 Yeah? 2793 02:26:38.840 --> 02:26:40.120 I mean he said he was always put in the 2794 02:26:40.120 --> 02:26:42.000 middle of these situations. That's what we were saying. 2795 02:26:42.920 --> 02:26:45.840 Yep, it's so fucking funny. I think part of the. 2796 02:26:45.879 --> 02:26:48.000 Reason that you were so jarred back in the day 2797 02:26:48.200 --> 02:26:50.360 as to why Sean suddenly didn't have the belt anymore, 2798 02:26:50.479 --> 02:26:56.799 is what he just said. It was a Thursday night Raw. Yeah, right, exactly, 2799 02:26:56.840 --> 02:26:59.639 That's definitely it. Like I missed that Thursday Night Raw. 2800 02:27:00.159 --> 02:27:03.920 I didn't watch it. I forgot all about it for 2801 02:27:03.959 --> 02:27:06.600 whatever reason on that Mondays. 2802 02:27:06.000 --> 02:27:10.159 US Open or Dog Show whatever, right, and so you know, 2803 02:27:10.760 --> 02:27:15.440 you know, for me, I was watching. You know, the 2804 02:27:15.520 --> 02:27:18.520 last time I saw I saw the WW would have 2805 02:27:18.559 --> 02:27:21.920 been the Monday previous, so two weeks had gone by 2806 02:27:22.479 --> 02:27:28.559 for me before I realized that Shawn Michaels gave up 2807 02:27:28.559 --> 02:27:33.000 the belt and Brettheart was a champion at Thursday Raw. Thursday. 2808 02:27:33.799 --> 02:27:36.440 Yep, that was a very memorable night for a lot 2809 02:27:36.479 --> 02:27:39.239 of reasons. It was live's Lowell mass. Sean does the 2810 02:27:39.719 --> 02:27:42.559 the infamous I've lost my smile speech and relinquishes the belt, 2811 02:27:42.600 --> 02:27:45.000 having tweaked his knee in one of the aforementioned triple 2812 02:27:45.040 --> 02:27:48.680 threat matches off television with Brett Hart and sid that 2813 02:27:48.760 --> 02:27:52.920 they were doing around the horn, and he, uh, you know, 2814 02:27:53.079 --> 02:27:54.879 does it heartfelt speech in the ring and gives the 2815 02:27:54.920 --> 02:27:57.760 championship to events and leaves and they do the whole 2816 02:27:57.799 --> 02:28:00.399 tell Me a Live thing again where Sean leaves before 2817 02:28:00.760 --> 02:28:04.719 he's supposed to. And yeah, according to what Sid says there, 2818 02:28:04.760 --> 02:28:06.760 and according to the advertising going in, as we'll get to, 2819 02:28:06.920 --> 02:28:08.920 it was supposed to be Shawn Michael's versus Sid for 2820 02:28:09.040 --> 02:28:11.760 the title in the rematch on Thursday Raw Thursday, and 2821 02:28:11.879 --> 02:28:13.879 Sid was supposed to do, at least according to the 2822 02:28:14.079 --> 02:28:16.600 conversation he just recounted with Vince win the title back 2823 02:28:16.639 --> 02:28:18.959 on that show. He doesn't, of course, end up winning 2824 02:28:19.000 --> 02:28:21.200 it until the show We're going to Deep Dive next, 2825 02:28:21.239 --> 02:28:24.120 the February seventeenth Raw. This one took place a little 2826 02:28:24.120 --> 02:28:26.760 earlier in February. That's also the night where Rocky my 2827 02:28:26.879 --> 02:28:29.920 Via wins the Intercontinental title for the first time, right 2828 02:28:30.120 --> 02:28:33.520 beating Triple H and thus really accelerating the Die Rocky 2829 02:28:33.600 --> 02:28:35.799 Die fan backlash, which is part and parcel of the 2830 02:28:35.879 --> 02:28:38.879 same phenomenon that we were just talking about, with the 2831 02:28:38.959 --> 02:28:40.280 fan siding with Sid over Sean. 2832 02:28:41.520 --> 02:28:43.239 And Yeah, it's very true. That's a good point. 2833 02:28:43.239 --> 02:28:45.040 It's all happening in real time. It ends up being 2834 02:28:46.200 --> 02:28:47.920 Sid and yes, Sid and stone Cold in the main 2835 02:28:47.959 --> 02:28:51.719 event of Thursday Raw Thursday, instead of really Sean. Yeah, 2836 02:28:53.440 --> 02:28:56.479 and I don't know if I've ever seen the entire thing. Actually, yeah, 2837 02:28:56.600 --> 02:28:59.319 it's quite it's quite a memorable night. Prickly in retrospect 2838 02:29:00.040 --> 02:29:02.239 did a lot of stuff that ended up having ramifications. 2839 02:29:02.280 --> 02:29:03.680 They go back to that show a lot, you know, 2840 02:29:03.760 --> 02:29:05.040 and telling histories and stuff. 2841 02:29:05.319 --> 02:29:08.680 Oh yeah, yeah, it's always a thing. 2842 02:29:09.040 --> 02:29:12.159 Now, Bruce takes a little bit of exception, saying, you know, 2843 02:29:12.280 --> 02:29:16.200 this idea because Conrad references this interview and says that 2844 02:29:16.319 --> 02:29:18.280 Sid was under the impression that as long as he 2845 02:29:18.360 --> 02:29:20.559 was drawing his champion that he would continue having the strap, 2846 02:29:20.639 --> 02:29:23.120 and Bruce, I think rightfully pushes back and says, no, 2847 02:29:23.639 --> 02:29:27.120 it was always the idea. Everyone knew before Sid even 2848 02:29:27.159 --> 02:29:28.920 beat Sean, that it was always a plan for Sid 2849 02:29:28.920 --> 02:29:32.319 to drop the title Sean and san Antonio. And there 2850 02:29:32.399 --> 02:29:34.200 was never this proviso that if you were drawing, we're 2851 02:29:34.200 --> 02:29:35.879 going to leave it on you. That was never ever 2852 02:29:35.959 --> 02:29:38.360 the case. He says, from our point of view, his 2853 02:29:38.479 --> 02:29:41.159 talent was aware of that. Talent talent was aware of 2854 02:29:41.200 --> 02:29:42.799 what we were going to do between Survivor's series and 2855 02:29:42.840 --> 02:29:44.079 the World Rumble and what we were going to do 2856 02:29:44.120 --> 02:29:46.040 at the Rumble, so that it just doesn't hold any 2857 02:29:46.120 --> 02:29:49.600 water to suggest anything. You know that there was any 2858 02:29:49.639 --> 02:29:52.159 other plan other than that, and I think that's very clear. 2859 02:29:52.200 --> 02:29:55.440 I mean, there's no way you book Alamodome and put 2860 02:29:55.479 --> 02:29:58.120 Sean in the main event and there's even a centil 2861 02:29:58.159 --> 02:30:00.239 of a chance that he doesn't win the championship. 2862 02:30:00.040 --> 02:30:02.319 Of course, I mean, or you know, yeah, it needs 2863 02:30:02.360 --> 02:30:03.440 to be exactly. 2864 02:30:03.280 --> 02:30:05.559 Exactly would be fucking death if they didn't have the 2865 02:30:05.600 --> 02:30:10.360 happy ending there. And there's hardly in the early days, 2866 02:30:10.959 --> 02:30:14.680 hardly any meditation on WIF television around Sid's era. You know, 2867 02:30:14.760 --> 02:30:17.079 they're not really trying to tell the fans that this 2868 02:30:17.159 --> 02:30:19.319 could be the beginning of a long rain. Not initially 2869 02:30:19.479 --> 02:30:22.280 they don't say that, and of course that's probably because 2870 02:30:22.319 --> 02:30:25.760 it wasn't supposed to be. But it's so obvious when 2871 02:30:25.799 --> 02:30:27.680 you actually go back and watch all this stuff and 2872 02:30:27.760 --> 02:30:31.120 realize everything about Sid is equal parts about Sean Michaels. 2873 02:30:32.120 --> 02:30:35.479 Anything they say about Sid is just the entree to 2874 02:30:35.600 --> 02:30:38.040 point out that he cheated by attacking Jose Thethario, and 2875 02:30:38.120 --> 02:30:41.159 thus Shawn Michaels shouldn't be demerited for losing the title 2876 02:30:41.200 --> 02:30:44.159 to Sid, because he lost it because he cared more 2877 02:30:44.239 --> 02:30:47.680 for his mentor in this old Man than he did 2878 02:30:47.680 --> 02:30:50.000 the championship and it's all about Sean, even though sid 2879 02:30:50.079 --> 02:30:52.680 now was walking around his champion. There was a satellite 2880 02:30:52.719 --> 02:30:56.280 interview where they they asked, Sean, who's now starting to 2881 02:30:56.319 --> 02:30:57.959 show you know, he's starting to wear the stubble, he's 2882 02:30:57.959 --> 02:31:00.520 starting to show a lot more grit on it interviews 2883 02:31:00.559 --> 02:31:01.159 he started. 2884 02:31:01.000 --> 02:31:04.040 I mean, he's he I think I talked about this 2885 02:31:04.120 --> 02:31:07.200 when we did the ninety six Survivor series. He actually 2886 02:31:07.239 --> 02:31:08.760 made me nervous that he was going to turn here. 2887 02:31:08.840 --> 02:31:12.319 Yeah you're saying, and before or after the match? After 2888 02:31:12.399 --> 02:31:14.399 the match? Yes, when he started, because he started acting 2889 02:31:14.440 --> 02:31:17.959 a lot like Kevin Nash did when he lost about 2890 02:31:17.959 --> 02:31:20.799 the year prior. That's the same playbook. And I was like, 2891 02:31:20.920 --> 02:31:24.479 oh god, they're going to do this now, right, not Sean, 2892 02:31:25.120 --> 02:31:28.040 He's my new Hogan. Amazing. Why do they keep doing 2893 02:31:28.120 --> 02:31:28.440 this to me? 2894 02:31:28.600 --> 02:31:30.520 It's weird They went that place with him, considering there 2895 02:31:30.559 --> 02:31:32.879 was the Cinderella finish coming up at the Alamodome. 2896 02:31:33.680 --> 02:31:34.719 Yeah, right, exactly. 2897 02:31:34.879 --> 02:31:36.680 But he starts acting out. I think Sean, you know, 2898 02:31:36.719 --> 02:31:38.319 you read his book and hear him talk about the zero. 2899 02:31:38.520 --> 02:31:38.920 He was so. 2900 02:31:40.760 --> 02:31:44.200 At his own head about the presentation being all wrong. 2901 02:31:44.520 --> 02:31:47.840 You know that this playing to you know, screaming teenage 2902 02:31:47.879 --> 02:31:50.040 girls and being a boy toy and stuff that it 2903 02:31:50.120 --> 02:31:51.959 was very clear after ninety six was done that that 2904 02:31:52.079 --> 02:31:53.719 was not going to be his meal ticket. You know, 2905 02:31:53.799 --> 02:31:56.159 that was not going to be the kind of presentation 2906 02:31:56.879 --> 02:32:00.319 that was going to leave him perceived. He does a 2907 02:32:00.399 --> 02:32:03.479 really successful champion, and he was always very insecure about 2908 02:32:03.920 --> 02:32:06.399 being accepted at the level his predecessors. 2909 02:32:05.840 --> 02:32:07.479 Were as a champion. That's a big thing. 2910 02:32:07.600 --> 02:32:10.440 We finally get the strap and we heard, like Isaacady 2911 02:32:10.440 --> 02:32:15.159 Guerrero for instance, struggle endlessly with feeling unworthy of having 2912 02:32:15.239 --> 02:32:17.319 the belt. And for Sean, I mean, I think that 2913 02:32:17.479 --> 02:32:19.120 is a huge part and we did a lot of 2914 02:32:19.120 --> 02:32:21.440 the psychoanalysis of this when we did the ninety seven journey. 2915 02:32:21.920 --> 02:32:23.760 A huge part of why there was tension with Brett 2916 02:32:23.920 --> 02:32:26.719 is because Sean, when push came to CHEF never really 2917 02:32:26.799 --> 02:32:31.239 felt like Brett was sincere in saying that Sean was 2918 02:32:31.239 --> 02:32:33.600 going to be able to carry the WWF the way 2919 02:32:33.639 --> 02:32:37.559 Brett did as champion, and that he never really never 2920 02:32:37.719 --> 02:32:40.879 really did the things that Sean would have expected him 2921 02:32:40.920 --> 02:32:43.159 to do to give him that boost and that acceptance 2922 02:32:43.200 --> 02:32:45.719 and that endorsement, and he was always waiting for it, 2923 02:32:45.760 --> 02:32:47.239 and he was always waiting for it, and when he 2924 02:32:47.559 --> 02:32:49.200 finally didn't get it, over a period of time, he 2925 02:32:49.280 --> 02:32:51.319 started acting out. And I think by the Winner of 2926 02:32:51.399 --> 02:32:53.639 ninety six we're starting to see that where Sean is 2927 02:32:54.000 --> 02:32:57.639 acting so much more. It's kind of like a preemptively 2928 02:32:57.719 --> 02:33:00.760 defensive and everything he says on television, and I have 2929 02:33:00.840 --> 02:33:02.760 to believe this is before every line was scripted for 2930 02:33:02.840 --> 02:33:04.399 these guys. I have to believe that part of that 2931 02:33:04.520 --> 02:33:06.520 is Sean trying to really go in a business himself 2932 02:33:06.559 --> 02:33:10.040 to some degree and framing his presentation differently considering how 2933 02:33:10.680 --> 02:33:14.040 massive the crowd rejection was in you know, the leading 2934 02:33:14.079 --> 02:33:17.440 litmus test arena for Vince Madison, Square Garden. So he's 2935 02:33:17.440 --> 02:33:20.159 talking about in the satellite interview as they're asking him, 2936 02:33:20.159 --> 02:33:21.840 did it throw you off that so many fans were 2937 02:33:21.879 --> 02:33:24.280 cheering sid And he's saying, it didn't throw me off. 2938 02:33:24.280 --> 02:33:26.040 I always said, I want the fans at WWF to 2939 02:33:26.159 --> 02:33:28.360 enjoy themselves. If I can't provide what wouldn't make them 2940 02:33:28.440 --> 02:33:30.399 enjoy themselves, then they can get it from somewhere else. 2941 02:33:30.440 --> 02:33:32.360 I want the people behind me, but I will not 2942 02:33:32.520 --> 02:33:35.079 beg the people to be behind me. So he's starting 2943 02:33:35.079 --> 02:33:36.840 to get that streak of like that fuck you. 2944 02:33:37.280 --> 02:33:39.760 Right, it's in again. It made me very nervous. 2945 02:33:40.159 --> 02:33:42.879 And they go to London and very nervous. And when 2946 02:33:42.879 --> 02:33:44.959 they were there they shoot some TV and Steve Austin 2947 02:33:45.000 --> 02:33:46.879 actually hit Sid with the belt. There was a little 2948 02:33:46.959 --> 02:33:51.719 mini Sid Austin feud during all this that's kind of 2949 02:33:51.760 --> 02:33:54.799 easy to I vaguely remember that. Yeah, they have Sid 2950 02:33:54.879 --> 02:33:56.639 versus Austin for I think the first time at least 2951 02:33:56.639 --> 02:34:00.000 on television a couple of weeks after the Survivor's series, 2952 02:34:00.280 --> 02:34:03.440 and Austin hits Sid with the belt and Davy boy 2953 02:34:03.479 --> 02:34:07.520 Smith actually runs out and starts fighting with Austin, and 2954 02:34:07.559 --> 02:34:09.680 Sid is dq'ed. He goes to power bomb Davy boy 2955 02:34:09.719 --> 02:34:12.040 Smith and Brett makes the save for Davy boy and 2956 02:34:12.159 --> 02:34:14.079 then Brett and Sid go face to face. This is 2957 02:34:14.079 --> 02:34:17.520 ahead of its time, of course, allowing Stone Cold to 2958 02:34:17.600 --> 02:34:20.719 knee Brett from behind and then Sid choke slams Brett down. 2959 02:34:21.079 --> 02:34:23.639 So it's all, you know, all the different cross currents here, 2960 02:34:23.680 --> 02:34:27.719 everybody's feuds are intertwining. And then there's another Shawn Michael 2961 02:34:27.760 --> 02:34:32.319 satellite interview that they it's almost like these damage control 2962 02:34:32.440 --> 02:34:35.799 satellite interviews they're doing with Sean after Survivor series where 2963 02:34:36.120 --> 02:34:39.559 they're just hammering that he did this for jose Lethario 2964 02:34:39.879 --> 02:34:42.200 and he doesn't care if you don't cheer for him, 2965 02:34:42.319 --> 02:34:45.399 and he's in for his supporters and all that. And 2966 02:34:45.559 --> 02:34:48.559 this is one that I think colors in a lot 2967 02:34:48.639 --> 02:34:50.879 of Sid's early presentation. 2968 02:34:50.959 --> 02:34:53.479 Here is champion. Okay, I really don't know what the 2969 02:34:53.600 --> 02:34:54.760 controversy is about. 2970 02:34:55.000 --> 02:34:58.079 Why everybody is where aroulse sticking their nose in my business. 2971 02:34:58.479 --> 02:35:01.159 First of all, you Brett Hart, you come down, you 2972 02:35:01.399 --> 02:35:02.959 davy boy, you come down. 2973 02:35:03.120 --> 02:35:04.520 There's no place for you there. 2974 02:35:05.440 --> 02:35:08.479 So what happens when you stick your nose in my business? 2975 02:35:08.920 --> 02:35:09.120 Yeah? 2976 02:35:09.399 --> 02:35:12.200 The champ I am the champion of the world. 2977 02:35:12.639 --> 02:35:15.079 That says at all that says that I am the 2978 02:35:15.200 --> 02:35:19.600 man that says that I am the master and the rule. 2979 02:35:25.840 --> 02:35:26.600 The world. 2980 02:35:28.079 --> 02:35:30.719 By New Era darding here in the world Roastic Federation 2981 02:35:30.840 --> 02:35:34.280 with the highly aggressive cycle to the rating world ROSTI 2982 02:35:34.399 --> 02:35:36.440 feration in Jamie'll just winning to end the title. 2983 02:35:36.840 --> 02:35:42.360 I guess the hit man on the early Christmas President 2984 02:35:43.600 --> 02:35:45.760 in your house that fits. 2985 02:35:47.440 --> 02:35:47.959 But there it is. 2986 02:35:48.040 --> 02:35:50.280 That's that's all tasty and new era. Did he just 2987 02:35:50.319 --> 02:35:54.399 say yeah, yeah, it's fleeting, but they start talking about 2988 02:35:54.440 --> 02:35:56.680 it and Sid kicks off the December ninth, nineteen ninety 2989 02:35:56.719 --> 02:35:58.440 six braw as well in this vein. 2990 02:36:01.360 --> 02:36:05.319 Welcome to be wanting a ww have Monday night Raw 2991 02:36:06.200 --> 02:36:08.360 begin you along with Terry the King Lawer. 2992 02:36:08.200 --> 02:36:09.200 And ed On Jr. 2993 02:36:09.600 --> 02:36:12.479 And look goostrolling from the squ circles. 2994 02:36:12.520 --> 02:36:16.079 No last than the World Last Thing Federation champion. 2995 02:36:15.799 --> 02:36:20.079 Himself a monster of three hundred Conder's in jar An individual. 2996 02:36:20.239 --> 02:36:24.600 Perhaps it's indeed leading us into a new here here. 2997 02:36:24.479 --> 02:36:27.479 In the World Last Thing Federation of Donald Willis Morris 2998 02:36:27.680 --> 02:36:30.399 Biscol Gifts are concerned, Sycho said, Maybe. 2999 02:36:30.280 --> 02:36:32.360 The leader here in the w doesn't live for a 3000 02:36:32.440 --> 02:36:33.399 long time to come. 3001 02:36:33.920 --> 02:36:35.120 But what a cross road. 3002 02:36:35.239 --> 02:36:39.159 Psycho sit and finds himself backing this Sunday on pay 3003 02:36:39.280 --> 02:36:42.639 per view, because will it be time for Psycho said 3004 02:36:42.760 --> 02:36:46.000 to catch his name into immortality there you see it? 3005 02:36:46.319 --> 02:36:48.959 Or will it be Brett Hart's opportunity to regain the 3006 02:36:49.159 --> 02:36:51.360 WWF title for the fourth time. 3007 02:36:51.479 --> 02:36:52.520 Give me a break, Jim Rush. 3008 02:36:52.559 --> 02:36:55.120 I don't see anybody in the WWF they can beat 3009 02:36:55.280 --> 02:36:56.360 Psycho Sid right now. 3010 02:36:56.479 --> 02:36:58.559 Look you beat Sewn Michaels, He'll beat. 3011 02:36:58.399 --> 02:37:00.600 Bret to hit man heart looking woo him down. 3012 02:37:00.879 --> 02:37:03.840 Look at that cych co Sid, But we're all ross 3013 02:37:03.879 --> 02:37:06.319 plays fighter action champion tonight. 3014 02:37:06.159 --> 02:37:08.600 And going against another champion. 3015 02:37:08.680 --> 02:37:13.319 Yes it's a champion pursus champion, sich Com said, perhaps 3016 02:37:13.479 --> 02:37:18.040 power bombing us off here raw as sids work up. 3017 02:37:17.959 --> 02:37:19.760 Again come late. 3018 02:37:20.000 --> 02:37:20.159 Hum. 3019 02:37:20.959 --> 02:37:24.719 So there's the framing new era of stuff, talking about 3020 02:37:24.799 --> 02:37:28.559 his his physical gifts and all that. But it really 3021 02:37:28.600 --> 02:37:30.840 starts to sound to me like, you know, this is 3022 02:37:30.879 --> 02:37:32.559 going to be the only time Sid's going to headline 3023 02:37:32.559 --> 02:37:35.200 the pay per view as champion. We better we better 3024 02:37:35.280 --> 02:37:37.280 hurry up and accelerate the hype for this guy as 3025 02:37:37.360 --> 02:37:39.559 someone that uh is worth buying a pay per view 3026 02:37:39.559 --> 02:37:42.399 to see defend the championship and create the impression that 3027 02:37:42.520 --> 02:37:44.520 you know, you're watching history in the making with him 3028 02:37:44.559 --> 02:37:46.920 defending as opposed to it's kind of hard to get 3029 02:37:46.920 --> 02:37:48.840 people to buy a champ a championship match when you 3030 02:37:48.920 --> 02:37:51.559 think the champions lame duck. But it's just all of 3031 02:37:51.559 --> 02:37:55.079 a sudden, it switches from Sean got screwed, Shawn got screwed. 3032 02:37:55.200 --> 02:37:57.040 Sid won the belt, But that doesn't really that's not 3033 02:37:57.159 --> 02:38:01.040 the story here to Sid is launching a new era 3034 02:38:01.319 --> 02:38:02.680 of aggression here in the WWF. 3035 02:38:02.719 --> 02:38:05.840 It's kind of weird now, it's so fucking convoluted and 3036 02:38:07.879 --> 02:38:08.680 it's so phony. 3037 02:38:09.120 --> 02:38:13.479 Yeah, yeah, because they didn't really, they didn't react that 3038 02:38:13.520 --> 02:38:15.559 way when Sid first won the belt, and now that 3039 02:38:15.639 --> 02:38:17.840 there's a pay per view to sell without Sewn involved, 3040 02:38:17.840 --> 02:38:19.040 it's like, well, we got to really kind of make 3041 02:38:19.040 --> 02:38:21.360 it about Sid because we're not No one's going to 3042 02:38:21.399 --> 02:38:22.680 buy this pay per view for what Shawn does. He 3043 02:38:22.680 --> 02:38:24.440 doesn't have a match. He's going to be there, but 3044 02:38:25.159 --> 02:38:27.639 we can't spend much more time emphasizing Sean and the 3045 02:38:27.719 --> 02:38:29.559 damage control element of it, or it seemed to me 3046 02:38:29.559 --> 02:38:31.200 at least to be damage control. But I think also 3047 02:38:31.520 --> 02:38:33.120 we've got a lot for the possibility that week to 3048 02:38:33.159 --> 02:38:35.200 week they're changing course, you know, they're trying to decide 3049 02:38:35.239 --> 02:38:38.799 what's going to be most effective for that WrestleMania. The 3050 02:38:40.399 --> 02:38:43.719 loosely sketched out plan of the Shawn Brett rematches very 3051 02:38:43.760 --> 02:38:46.079 clearly becoming a fraught thing. It's not going to be 3052 02:38:46.159 --> 02:38:49.159 very easy to put that match together. Definitely not going 3053 02:38:49.200 --> 02:38:50.760 to be easy to get Brett the win back, which 3054 02:38:50.799 --> 02:38:52.280 is probably the only way they could get that match 3055 02:38:52.319 --> 02:38:54.159 in the ring. I'm not sure Brett would be a 3056 02:38:54.200 --> 02:38:56.879 huge fan of losing to Shawn again to Wrestlemani's. 3057 02:38:56.239 --> 02:38:58.239 In row, No, not at all. 3058 02:38:58.440 --> 02:39:00.360 I cannot say this. Shawn Michaels in the state of mine. 3059 02:39:00.399 --> 02:39:03.399 He's in agreeing to do the honors either. So that 3060 02:39:03.479 --> 02:39:05.879 whole U come to Jesus conversation about how I just 3061 02:39:05.959 --> 02:39:08.360 want you to know I wouldn't return the favor for you, Brett. 3062 02:39:08.520 --> 02:39:11.079 I think could have been pushed forward quite a few 3063 02:39:11.120 --> 02:39:14.799 months if if the issue was forced to WrestleMania thirteen, 3064 02:39:15.280 --> 02:39:17.559 But for now, its time is on the calendar. Sids 3065 02:39:17.600 --> 02:39:19.520 the champion, and we're going to frame him as a 3066 02:39:19.639 --> 02:39:25.079 revolutionary New Era flag bearer on that. On an episode 3067 02:39:25.079 --> 02:39:26.440 of Raw, as Vince was talking about he was to 3068 02:39:26.479 --> 02:39:28.879 face Triple H. You at the time was the continental champion, 3069 02:39:29.399 --> 02:39:31.239 and during the course of the match, Sid hits Triple 3070 02:39:31.319 --> 02:39:34.040 H with a huge guerrilla press slam. They start fighting 3071 02:39:34.079 --> 02:39:36.399 in the isle way. He power bombs him out there 3072 02:39:36.440 --> 02:39:38.559 on the floor, but actually they get back in the ring, 3073 02:39:38.719 --> 02:39:41.159 he power bombs him, Triple H rolls out, crawls up 3074 02:39:41.200 --> 02:39:42.840 the aisle, and is counted out of the ring. So 3075 02:39:43.079 --> 02:39:47.000 this WWF champion that's harbor the harboring der of a 3076 02:39:47.079 --> 02:39:50.840 new era of aggression and dominance in the Wwfah can't 3077 02:39:50.840 --> 02:39:57.040 even beat Triple H by pinfall. I mean, so I 3078 02:39:57.079 --> 02:39:59.200 would love to know the negotiation that went on there, 3079 02:39:59.680 --> 02:40:02.319 because this is, you know, this is Triple H starting 3080 02:40:02.399 --> 02:40:04.079 to come out of the penalty box from the whole 3081 02:40:04.079 --> 02:40:06.440 click incident as ninety six becomes ninety seven and now 3082 02:40:06.520 --> 02:40:09.280 he's got the championship belt and he's gonna win King 3083 02:40:09.319 --> 02:40:12.959 of the Ring again in ninety seven's it's just amazing 3084 02:40:13.000 --> 02:40:15.000 to me that you just can't have Sid just beat 3085 02:40:15.040 --> 02:40:17.399 the intercontinental champion to further cement him as your man. 3086 02:40:17.479 --> 02:40:19.399 But those are the kind of things like, okay, those 3087 02:40:19.479 --> 02:40:21.360 little signals I feel like that you give to the fans. 3088 02:40:21.360 --> 02:40:23.719 So this guy isn't actually a long champion because he's not. 3089 02:40:24.799 --> 02:40:28.959 Yeah, they're like they're completely uh uh you know, they're 3090 02:40:29.159 --> 02:40:31.920 they're they're they're not making him feel important. They're not 3091 02:40:32.040 --> 02:40:35.879 making him feel like he's worth paying attention to me 3092 02:40:36.159 --> 02:40:37.360 or investing in. Right, he's not. 3093 02:40:37.719 --> 02:40:40.280 He's not having the definitive outcomes that a champion of 3094 02:40:40.360 --> 02:40:42.440 tenure would. You know that they've trained the fans to 3095 02:40:42.559 --> 02:40:45.000 expect from a champion that's going to have a tenure 3096 02:40:45.040 --> 02:40:47.239 with the belt. And as this all happens, as Triple 3097 02:40:47.319 --> 02:40:49.280 H crawls up the aisle to avoid the pinfall, Sid's 3098 02:40:49.280 --> 02:40:51.000 got this flat look on his face like he's watching 3099 02:40:51.040 --> 02:40:55.920 the cashier ring him up or something, and it's like normal, look, yeah, 3100 02:40:56.399 --> 02:40:58.879 he looks like a guy competing at a protest. Really, 3101 02:41:00.159 --> 02:41:01.559 and they would get to the its time pay per view, 3102 02:41:01.559 --> 02:41:04.600 which is mentioned is in December, I think December fourteenth, 3103 02:41:04.680 --> 02:41:07.120 ninety sixth plus Palm Beach, Florida. And of course back 3104 02:41:07.159 --> 02:41:09.520 at the time, Superstars was still on syndicated television on 3105 02:41:09.559 --> 02:41:10.719 Saturday Sunday mornings of. 3106 02:41:10.760 --> 02:41:13.799 Pay per views, and so you'd wrestled twice in the day. 3107 02:41:13.959 --> 02:41:15.239 Well, if there was a match in the can that 3108 02:41:15.280 --> 02:41:18.239 had been taped weeks before, yeah, sometimes they'd play that 3109 02:41:18.319 --> 02:41:19.559 match in the morning of the pay per view and 3110 02:41:19.559 --> 02:41:21.639 then you'd wrestle that night. And just like you said, 3111 02:41:21.719 --> 02:41:23.079 on the pay per view, they talk as if you 3112 02:41:23.079 --> 02:41:25.879 wrestled earlier that same very day, which is just hilarious. 3113 02:41:27.079 --> 02:41:29.319 But in this case, they would set up a live remotes. 3114 02:41:29.559 --> 02:41:32.079 So if you watch Superstars that Sunday morning and this 3115 02:41:32.200 --> 02:41:35.680 gets me really cozy, this thought of like, you know, 3116 02:41:35.719 --> 02:41:39.000 Bowl of Cereal pay per view and you watch Superstars 3117 02:41:39.000 --> 02:41:40.959 at eleven in the morning and they're there in the arena. 3118 02:41:41.040 --> 02:41:42.639 The arena is empty, you can see all the empare 3119 02:41:42.680 --> 02:41:44.799 Oh I love that. Yep, so good, such a good 3120 02:41:44.879 --> 02:41:47.319 use of that time. And they're telling you tonight's the 3121 02:41:47.399 --> 02:41:49.399 night and they'll have interviews with the principles, and you 3122 02:41:49.520 --> 02:41:51.520 just get this sense, you know, kind of like how 3123 02:41:51.559 --> 02:41:53.879 the you know, the super Bowl pre show, even though 3124 02:41:53.879 --> 02:41:55.600 the super Bowl doesn't kick off till whatever it is, 3125 02:41:55.799 --> 02:41:57.920 eight thirty starting at noon. 3126 02:41:58.280 --> 02:42:00.520 Yeah, but you watched, yeah exactly, you watch all the 3127 02:42:00.559 --> 02:42:01.520 shit leading up to it. 3128 02:42:02.000 --> 02:42:03.840 You at least get a glimpse of the terrain and 3129 02:42:03.879 --> 02:42:05.799 the and the atmosphere and the energy, and you get it. 3130 02:42:06.440 --> 02:42:08.639 You hear from from from the players, and you get 3131 02:42:08.680 --> 02:42:10.159 a sense of what's going to mean to them when 3132 02:42:10.159 --> 02:42:12.719 they finally hit that field. And that's what these little 3133 02:42:12.920 --> 02:42:15.559 Superstars occasions would mean. And and Sid actually had some 3134 02:42:15.719 --> 02:42:17.920 some some bright shining moments during some of these, uh, 3135 02:42:18.360 --> 02:42:21.959 these Superstars previews, if you can call them that, that 3136 02:42:22.120 --> 02:42:25.559 morning of its time. Sid is outside in westbaum Commentation, 3137 02:42:25.760 --> 02:42:28.639 commenting on the match after Shawn Michaels had done an 3138 02:42:28.639 --> 02:42:30.920 interview going off pretty much just on Brett Hart exclusively, 3139 02:42:31.559 --> 02:42:33.879 and then they did an actual face off between Brett 3140 02:42:33.879 --> 02:42:36.079 and Sean outside the venue in the daylight near some 3141 02:42:36.159 --> 02:42:38.719 palm trees and they're jaw jacking and talking trash. So 3142 02:42:38.719 --> 02:42:41.639 they basically shot angles for Superstars that morning, and it 3143 02:42:41.719 --> 02:42:44.200 definitely seems like they had even up to its time 3144 02:42:44.719 --> 02:42:46.840 a Sean Brett match in mind, it still seemed like 3145 02:42:47.319 --> 02:42:49.680 loosely penciled in as we're building to Brett Seawan again, 3146 02:42:49.799 --> 02:42:52.719 because they are not leading people to want to see 3147 02:42:54.559 --> 02:42:57.280 something different than that after Sean gets the belt back. 3148 02:42:57.520 --> 02:43:00.799 They are really getting you to want to see Brett 3149 02:43:00.840 --> 02:43:03.600 and Sean again. There's no other way to watch this. 3150 02:43:03.959 --> 02:43:07.280 This television show. It's interesting, yeah, and it's lost, and 3151 02:43:07.440 --> 02:43:11.000 it's lost to history because people just accelerate right from 3152 02:43:11.079 --> 02:43:15.200 Survivors series to Royal Rumble, and by Rumble, I feel like, 3153 02:43:15.239 --> 02:43:16.799 you know, lost in winning and stuff. It's a little 3154 02:43:16.799 --> 02:43:18.840 more up for grabs. And then of course the knee 3155 02:43:18.840 --> 02:43:21.559 injury happens and Sean relinquishes the championship, and then whatever 3156 02:43:22.159 --> 02:43:24.399 vestiges there may have been off Brett sewn in a rematch, 3157 02:43:24.479 --> 02:43:27.879 go down the toilet, but they're definitely still comfortable as 3158 02:43:27.920 --> 02:43:31.040 of the superstars. The morning of it's time pointing fans 3159 02:43:31.120 --> 02:43:33.360 toward a Shan Brett rematch and trying to get them 3160 02:43:33.399 --> 02:43:37.520 hyped for it. And here on that broadcast is Sid 3161 02:43:37.600 --> 02:43:40.559 weighing in and all that's happening around him as WWF Champion. 3162 02:43:40.760 --> 02:43:43.200 The WWF Champion, Psycho Sid. 3163 02:43:43.399 --> 02:43:45.639 It is sold out here tonight and millions of people 3164 02:43:45.719 --> 02:43:48.280 will be watching on pay per view in your house. 3165 02:43:48.440 --> 02:43:51.040 It's time your challenger, Brett Hart. 3166 02:43:51.000 --> 02:43:53.920 Feels it's time for him to regain the WWF title 3167 02:43:54.000 --> 02:43:54.760 for a fourth time. 3168 02:43:55.000 --> 02:43:57.159 A lot of other people feel it is a new 3169 02:43:57.280 --> 02:43:58.440 error here in the WWF. 3170 02:43:58.520 --> 02:43:59.600 It's Psycho Sid. 3171 02:43:59.600 --> 02:44:00.280 Time see it. 3172 02:44:00.360 --> 02:44:02.239 You're exactly right, And what I feel, I feel a 3173 02:44:02.239 --> 02:44:04.920 little parannoy you coming from you here, man, and no 3174 02:44:05.040 --> 02:44:08.079 reason why, because you consider yourself the best there is, 3175 02:44:08.559 --> 02:44:11.440 the bester was and the best ever be. So you 3176 02:44:11.520 --> 02:44:14.200 gotta understand something, my friend, you're. 3177 02:44:14.079 --> 02:44:16.079 A great technical wrestler, but. 3178 02:44:16.239 --> 02:44:19.920 I beat the greatest technical wrestler of all time, and 3179 02:44:20.120 --> 02:44:23.040 that's Sean Michaels, And so wow, he is planning in 3180 02:44:23.120 --> 02:44:25.639 the back of your head, and you know that you've 3181 02:44:25.639 --> 02:44:27.079 got to come to my game plan. 3182 02:44:27.399 --> 02:44:29.559 Hey, that is power, power. 3183 02:44:29.360 --> 02:44:30.239 That you don't have. 3184 02:44:30.639 --> 02:44:32.920 All right, Well, speaking of Sean Michaels, he'll be at 3185 02:44:33.000 --> 02:44:35.000 ringside doing color commentary tonight. 3186 02:44:35.360 --> 02:44:36.920 Is that going to be a major distraction? 3187 02:44:37.440 --> 02:44:38.319 No, it won't be good. 3188 02:44:38.360 --> 02:44:40.559 I'll tell you something, Sean, if you stick to your 3189 02:44:40.639 --> 02:44:43.559 nose in my business, you'll get the exact same thing. 3190 02:44:43.840 --> 02:44:44.719 Oh, thank god. 3191 02:44:46.120 --> 02:44:49.559 But so it won't bother you none whatsoever. There's Seawn Michaels. 3192 02:44:49.239 --> 02:44:50.319 Who sit. 3193 02:44:53.719 --> 02:44:56.840 Sewn, just flies into frame and jumps on said, wow, 3194 02:44:57.040 --> 02:45:18.200 street clothes like black shirt, black jeans. Way, I'm pretty 3195 02:45:18.200 --> 02:45:19.639 sure you can hear Vincent there. Hey, knock it off. 3196 02:45:19.680 --> 02:45:22.319 Knock it off, ye, knock it off. Goddamn you remember 3197 02:45:22.360 --> 02:45:24.280 that Sid doing an interview outdoors and like the sunny 3198 02:45:24.479 --> 02:45:26.280 Florida and then Sean flies into the frame with like 3199 02:45:26.280 --> 02:45:26.799 a planchet. 3200 02:45:27.559 --> 02:45:28.799 I don't remember at all. 3201 02:45:28.799 --> 02:45:30.799 I think they replay it during the body of the 3202 02:45:30.879 --> 02:45:34.000 Royal Rumble nineteen ninety seven. Pardon me, it's time ninety 3203 02:45:34.000 --> 02:45:37.639 six broadcast. So yeah, Sean's showing up and he's fighting 3204 02:45:37.680 --> 02:45:41.200 anybody at noon. It's pretty it's pretty wild. 3205 02:45:41.360 --> 02:45:45.680 Then that sounds like Sean during during ninety the nineties. 3206 02:45:46.120 --> 02:45:49.760 It's Sean looking for anybody to fuck with. And then 3207 02:45:49.840 --> 02:45:52.920 later on during the pay per view itself, with the 3208 02:45:53.120 --> 02:45:57.440 white painter's cap on backwards, Sid has this to say. 3209 02:45:58.040 --> 02:46:00.200 Oh God, you have found out in a short you've 3210 02:46:00.239 --> 02:46:01.879 been World Wrestling Federation champion. 3211 02:46:02.000 --> 02:46:04.840 You are no longer the hunter. You are the hunted. 3212 02:46:05.319 --> 02:46:07.520 I'd like to take you back to earlier this morning 3213 02:46:07.920 --> 02:46:12.239 on Sunday Morning Superstars, when that has never been more evident. 3214 02:46:12.559 --> 02:46:15.280 Now there it was Shawn Michaels diving on you. 3215 02:46:15.479 --> 02:46:18.239 As I was conducting an interview with you, out comes 3216 02:46:18.280 --> 02:46:20.959 Brett harton At one time you and Brett Hart are. 3217 02:46:20.959 --> 02:46:22.879 Both beating on Shawn Michaels. 3218 02:46:23.200 --> 02:46:27.959 And then Brett Hart really made the big bad mistake 3219 02:46:28.120 --> 02:46:32.040 of turning his back on Psycho Sid. And boy, you 3220 02:46:32.319 --> 02:46:35.079 sure took advantage of that opportunity. As we can see 3221 02:46:35.200 --> 02:46:37.239 right here here it comes wow. 3222 02:46:37.520 --> 02:46:38.559 Thiss like that. Dot. 3223 02:46:38.639 --> 02:46:47.760 See if you head the loan by now see, don't 3224 02:46:47.959 --> 02:46:51.520 put your nose in my business. And if you can't 3225 02:46:51.559 --> 02:46:53.680 believe that as today. 3226 02:46:54.239 --> 02:46:58.399 All right, Sid, but Jose aside tonight you can squelch 3227 02:46:58.520 --> 02:47:02.120 the critics. You can silence everybody by defeating the legend 3228 02:47:02.239 --> 02:47:08.959 Breda hit Man, Heart, bad Hair and the future. 3229 02:47:10.040 --> 02:47:14.040 We make take it that top Brett, Shine, be. 3230 02:47:14.360 --> 02:47:23.559 Je Shine and Shine fall. It's easy. 3231 02:47:29.159 --> 02:47:29.440 Last. 3232 02:47:34.319 --> 02:47:37.959 Thanks, all right, all right, Vince back to you at rings. 3233 02:47:39.280 --> 02:47:55.159 Fan Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys 3234 02:47:55.319 --> 02:48:13.360 need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's a lapsed 3235 02:48:13.399 --> 02:48:17.680 fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnac and JP. 3236 02:48:17.600 --> 02:48:21.680 Sorrow barely understand Dan thing. You know, so you get 3237 02:48:21.719 --> 02:48:23.520 to kind of change it up a little bit. You know, 3238 02:48:23.559 --> 02:48:26.040 I might might get it. You're a master of the 3239 02:48:26.120 --> 02:48:28.840 ruler blah blah blah bah blah. But you know, maybe 3240 02:48:28.959 --> 02:48:33.239 say something new, something fresh, something that maybe isn't that. 3241 02:48:34.680 --> 02:48:41.600 Please maybe say you're you're a goldfish, You're a monkey. 3242 02:48:42.799 --> 02:48:44.639 I'm the monkey and the ruler of the world fans, 3243 02:48:46.079 --> 02:48:48.239 if if that's what it takes, Yes, maybe say you're 3244 02:48:48.239 --> 02:48:52.079 a goldfish or a monkey. Yeah it's a little a 3245 02:48:52.159 --> 02:48:54.840 little monkey's uncle maybe. 3246 02:48:55.079 --> 02:48:58.920 And uh something from that major And on his entrance 3247 02:48:58.959 --> 02:49:00.360 to face bretton the main event of this In Your 3248 02:49:00.399 --> 02:49:02.680 House show, Vince is talking like Sid's going to be 3249 02:49:02.680 --> 02:49:05.479 the dominant champion, for years to come. And then Shawn, 3250 02:49:05.520 --> 02:49:09.719 who gets on color commentary, call Sid the WWF's most 3251 02:49:09.719 --> 02:49:12.200 expensive piece of luggage. He says, me and others carry 3252 02:49:12.280 --> 02:49:16.079 him here and carry him there. Oh my god, Shawn says. 3253 02:49:16.360 --> 02:49:19.479 Shawn is now totally id. It's just shouting everything. He says, 3254 02:49:20.079 --> 02:49:22.440 gave him a live mic and he just like lets 3255 02:49:22.479 --> 02:49:25.239 all of his insecurities pour out onto the television screen 3256 02:49:26.120 --> 02:49:26.920 during the course of the match. 3257 02:49:26.959 --> 02:49:27.399 It's a good one. 3258 02:49:27.600 --> 02:49:30.600 Sid always worked well with Brett, Suplex's and mayors and 3259 02:49:30.639 --> 02:49:32.719 Sid's taking bumps. And then suddenly Austin comes out and 3260 02:49:32.760 --> 02:49:35.559 chop blocks Bred on the floor. This leads to Bulldog 3261 02:49:35.600 --> 02:49:38.239 and Owen coming out to stop them, which again leads 3262 02:49:38.280 --> 02:49:41.680 further credence to the idea that before Austin was to 3263 02:49:41.719 --> 02:49:44.840 face Brett at WrestleMania thirteen and the Infamous, not the Infamous, 3264 02:49:44.879 --> 02:49:47.479 the famous submission match, it was to be Steve Austin 3265 02:49:47.559 --> 02:49:48.920 versus Davy boys. 3266 02:49:48.760 --> 02:49:52.559 Smith, which just hurts. It hurts. It's hurts so bad. 3267 02:49:53.159 --> 02:49:54.840 When they still thought that there was a chance Brett 3268 02:49:54.840 --> 02:49:57.319 and Seawan were going to tangle in Chicago. So Brett 3269 02:49:57.360 --> 02:49:59.760 now has a bad wheel thank to Steve Austin's blindsided 3270 02:49:59.760 --> 02:50:02.319 at t the action hits the floor, Sid goes over 3271 02:50:02.360 --> 02:50:04.479 to the announced table and pie face as Shawn Michaels 3272 02:50:04.680 --> 02:50:06.879 sewn gets up on the apron and Sid tosses Brett 3273 02:50:07.000 --> 02:50:09.559 into Shawn Michaels, leading to a collision and that allows 3274 02:50:09.559 --> 02:50:11.360 Sid to hook Bread up for the power bomb and 3275 02:50:11.440 --> 02:50:13.719 the one two three. SID defeats Brett Hart to retain 3276 02:50:13.760 --> 02:50:15.760 the title and the only pay per view he ever 3277 02:50:15.959 --> 02:50:20.159 went into and successfully defended the title against an opponent. 3278 02:50:21.120 --> 02:50:23.000 That is true, that's a very good point of time. 3279 02:50:24.040 --> 02:50:26.879 The next night, the December sixteenth, nineteen ninety six, Raw, Brett, 3280 02:50:27.000 --> 02:50:29.399 of course has many grievances because of Sewan and Steve 3281 02:50:29.440 --> 02:50:31.799 Austin's interference. Says, there's no good reason I'm not the 3282 02:50:31.840 --> 02:50:34.239 World Wrestling Federation Champion, and I feel like here the 3283 02:50:34.360 --> 02:50:36.280 Raw after its time is where they really turn up 3284 02:50:36.280 --> 02:50:39.639 the dial on Brett as the whiny complainer because he's 3285 02:50:39.680 --> 02:50:41.920 not just making points that are valid, but you can 3286 02:50:42.040 --> 02:50:43.959 kind of hear the announcers kind of like try to 3287 02:50:45.600 --> 02:50:47.440 kind of coach you to start to have a bad 3288 02:50:47.479 --> 02:50:49.479 taste in your mouth about this guy, Like we've heard 3289 02:50:49.600 --> 02:50:52.440 enough of this, Like win the championship man or shut 3290 02:50:52.479 --> 02:50:55.200 the fuck up. And then that's when Brett starts talking 3291 02:50:55.200 --> 02:50:57.280 about how you know things have changed, I don't know 3292 02:50:57.360 --> 02:51:00.799 who my friends are anymore in the WWF, you don't 3293 02:51:00.799 --> 02:51:03.399 know what the rules are. Remember that that's because there 3294 02:51:03.479 --> 02:51:06.760 is no rules. And then they call Sean prissy. He says, 3295 02:51:06.799 --> 02:51:08.680 you said you wouldn't interfere in the match, and you did, 3296 02:51:08.799 --> 02:51:13.159 and Sean can't handle that. He's not as boy toy. Yeah, 3297 02:51:13.200 --> 02:51:16.520 that's that's coming. And you can hear the words if 3298 02:51:16.559 --> 02:51:19.120 coming out of Brett's mouth. Sean just can't handle that. 3299 02:51:19.239 --> 02:51:20.360 He's not as good as I am. 3300 02:51:20.959 --> 02:51:22.879 You can just hear it. You can hear it. And 3301 02:51:23.000 --> 02:51:26.040 on that show, it's a Austin versus Vader, like holy shit, 3302 02:51:26.280 --> 02:51:32.680 you know they they weren't shying away from Steve Austin 3303 02:51:32.719 --> 02:51:35.319 building up his tough guy bona fides, despite doing sneak 3304 02:51:35.319 --> 02:51:37.319 attacks on Brett to put him in there with Vader 3305 02:51:37.360 --> 02:51:39.239 and have him go toe to toe and fucking slug 3306 02:51:39.319 --> 02:51:42.040 it out with him. Oh yeah, I mean that's I mean, 3307 02:51:42.200 --> 02:51:46.840 they're really doing such an amazing it's really amazing work 3308 02:51:46.920 --> 02:51:50.879 they do with Austin. Yeah, especially it's really remarkable for it. 3309 02:51:51.120 --> 02:51:54.040 Like really crystallizes. You're like, wow, yep, they actually were 3310 02:51:54.239 --> 02:51:57.479 really smart every step of the way, and like doing 3311 02:51:57.559 --> 02:52:00.559 little things to make you still realize that as sneaky 3312 02:52:00.559 --> 02:52:03.040 of a motherfucker, Steve as he's not running away from anything. 3313 02:52:03.239 --> 02:52:06.600 He just rabbid and that will actually come to love 3314 02:52:06.680 --> 02:52:09.520 him for that. And during the course of this match 3315 02:52:09.559 --> 02:52:11.159 with Vader in the main event of the Raw, after 3316 02:52:11.239 --> 02:52:13.319 its time, Brett hard actually shows back up and attacks 3317 02:52:13.319 --> 02:52:15.440 Steve Austin on the floor and chop blocks him and 3318 02:52:15.479 --> 02:52:17.719 puts him in the sharpshooter, And that's a big uh. 3319 02:52:18.040 --> 02:52:19.879 That's a big moment too where Brett is kind of 3320 02:52:20.360 --> 02:52:23.319 being aggressive in a way that we should boo him 3321 02:52:24.319 --> 02:52:26.239 as justified as he may be in his frustrations with 3322 02:52:26.280 --> 02:52:28.639 Steve Austin and costing him the championship the night before. 3323 02:52:28.719 --> 02:52:31.559 He's carrying himself in a way that we haven't really 3324 02:52:31.600 --> 02:52:34.319 been programmed to cheer, and of course Sid has something 3325 02:52:34.360 --> 02:52:36.200 to say about it all because he's still remember me, 3326 02:52:36.639 --> 02:52:38.120 you're WWF champion. 3327 02:52:38.600 --> 02:52:41.520 Gentlemen, we have pretty much core get to you the 3328 02:52:41.639 --> 02:52:46.000 one and only what like butter Rectionia champion, showing us now. 3329 02:52:47.680 --> 02:52:52.280 Goodhead, but the moment the fake razor music, of course annoying. 3330 02:52:52.399 --> 02:52:56.440 Thank you very much, mister fitz McMahon said, you haven't 3331 02:52:56.520 --> 02:52:58.520 crossed the entire world westing direction. 3332 02:52:58.879 --> 02:52:59.920 J I just paide a point. 3333 02:53:00.239 --> 02:53:02.920 In less than thirty days, while you have dominated to 3334 02:53:03.040 --> 02:53:06.040 the extent, you have defeated Sean Michaels with a power bomb. 3335 02:53:06.280 --> 02:53:08.600 You have defeated Prett Hart with a power bomb in 3336 02:53:08.799 --> 02:53:09.840 less than thirty days. 3337 02:53:10.000 --> 02:53:12.840 Can anyone stop you? Can anyone take. 3338 02:53:12.760 --> 02:53:13.639 That title from you? 3339 02:53:14.159 --> 02:53:16.440 Dis No, It's simple. 3340 02:53:16.760 --> 02:53:20.040 See the game might play. I am the master, and 3341 02:53:20.200 --> 02:53:23.520 if you step back to the ring, you will go down. 3342 02:53:23.959 --> 02:53:25.920 All right, Then let's take you to the Alamo dum. 3343 02:53:26.280 --> 02:53:29.600 The day will be January nineteenth, Seventy thousand fans will 3344 02:53:29.680 --> 02:53:33.280 jam packed the arena said, and when you face Sean Michaels, 3345 02:53:33.879 --> 02:53:36.479 the outcome of that is didn't question at all as 3346 02:53:36.520 --> 02:53:37.760 far as you're concerning. 3347 02:53:37.639 --> 02:53:38.680 I'm gonna tell you something. 3348 02:53:38.959 --> 02:53:41.879 I know I'm going to shine Michael's backyard. 3349 02:53:42.200 --> 02:53:44.360 But you gotta understand something, mister McMahon. 3350 02:53:44.799 --> 02:53:51.360 I thrive, I thrive unversity. So it will be my victory, 3351 02:53:51.680 --> 02:53:56.079 a sweet victory to walk into San Antonio and take 3352 02:53:56.200 --> 02:53:58.120 Sean Michaels way more. 3353 02:53:58.079 --> 02:54:01.920 Don way more don to the top, two feet up 3354 02:54:02.440 --> 02:54:03.559 and two down. 3355 02:54:05.280 --> 02:54:05.920 It works. 3356 02:54:06.280 --> 02:54:09.079 And as far as don't get it, I think your 3357 02:54:09.120 --> 02:54:11.159 part be interrupting it. As far as Jose la. 3358 02:54:11.159 --> 02:54:14.000 Fario is concerned, he's Valcavie in the corner of Shawn 3359 02:54:14.079 --> 02:54:15.000 Michael's once again. 3360 02:54:16.040 --> 02:54:18.879 And I wouldn't think that would necessarily concern you though, will. 3361 02:54:19.319 --> 02:54:22.479 No, I'm gonna tell you some pose. Remember what happened 3362 02:54:22.520 --> 02:54:27.000 to Survivor series. Do yourself favor and stay at home 3363 02:54:27.319 --> 02:54:28.399 where you belong. 3364 02:54:28.799 --> 02:54:31.479 Yeah, thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, thank you 3365 02:54:31.559 --> 02:54:34.680 for joining us, Psycho said World of Rustling Counteraction. 3366 02:54:34.479 --> 02:54:37.840 Champions, and had taken a step further. The next week, 3367 02:54:37.879 --> 02:54:40.559 December twenty third, nineteen ninety six edition of Monday Night Raw, 3368 02:54:40.879 --> 02:54:42.120 Sid visits with Vince. 3369 02:54:44.239 --> 02:54:45.680 There's a little food for thought there. 3370 02:54:46.079 --> 02:54:48.520 You can't talk to this man, and he is the 3371 02:54:48.600 --> 02:54:53.399 man sixty nine, three hundred and thirteen pounds, but he got. 3372 02:54:53.360 --> 02:54:54.319 A wonder one of the folks in. 3373 02:54:54.399 --> 02:54:57.639 San Antonio think of Psycho, said, the folks in New 3374 02:54:57.719 --> 02:54:58.399 York City. 3375 02:54:58.319 --> 02:54:59.920 Loved him at the Survivor's here. 3376 02:55:00.520 --> 02:55:02.440 I don't think sim will get that kind of reception. 3377 02:55:03.159 --> 02:55:07.120 It's San Antonio at the Altamodome on January nineteen. 3378 02:55:12.479 --> 02:55:15.440 What a magnificent physical specimen. 3379 02:55:16.040 --> 02:55:17.840 He is not tendingly cure. 3380 02:55:18.319 --> 02:55:21.799 He beats people in a pad with a string and 3381 02:55:21.920 --> 02:55:23.159 what's been timid. 3382 02:55:23.000 --> 02:55:27.680 Edison always apologizing for his lack of technical skills. 3383 02:55:28.280 --> 02:55:30.399 I know, well that's that's the j R. Way Federation. 3384 02:55:30.559 --> 02:55:32.479 City is young. This that is true. 3385 02:55:32.639 --> 02:55:35.440 Man Sean Michael is looking on as we speak back 3386 02:55:35.479 --> 02:55:35.879 in the locker. 3387 02:55:36.000 --> 02:55:45.639 Amarion here he is psychos in less than thirty days. 3388 02:55:45.959 --> 02:55:49.200 Keep the music going. Hear that power bombs go yeah. 3389 02:55:50.280 --> 02:55:54.120 As power bomb roughly hitting man hard defeated both individual 3390 02:55:55.200 --> 02:55:59.440 and indeed establish your dominant. It seems to me, however, 3391 02:55:59.639 --> 02:56:03.440 that John Michaels has an attitude rent the hitting man 3392 02:56:03.600 --> 02:56:05.440 heart as an attitude. 3393 02:56:07.360 --> 02:56:10.479 Attitude is that word? Very interesting, Undertaker. 3394 02:56:10.719 --> 02:56:13.920 Everybody has an attitude. When it comes. 3395 02:56:13.760 --> 02:56:17.600 Attitude, Oliver, I would suggest that they all are going 3396 02:56:17.639 --> 02:56:21.079 to be playing right into your hands. 3397 02:56:23.360 --> 02:56:26.799 I do you think about second for a second. With 3398 02:56:27.000 --> 02:56:31.479 the thirty days, I had to feed it the two 3399 02:56:31.719 --> 02:56:39.239 waited technical wrestlers thround the world, but the game they 3400 02:56:39.360 --> 02:56:41.399 played was technicality. 3401 02:56:42.399 --> 02:56:45.879 And then at the end there was only power. 3402 02:56:47.879 --> 02:56:59.879 For well, walk the ground guy, listen. 3403 02:57:02.920 --> 02:57:13.479 Right, because I understood repredator, But the World. 3404 02:57:13.280 --> 02:57:14.959 Wrestling Federation. 3405 02:57:15.959 --> 02:57:19.319 Should say that after that there is. 3406 02:57:21.159 --> 02:57:21.959 About the world. 3407 02:57:23.719 --> 02:57:25.239 What was was Shan microsby thinking. 3408 02:57:27.479 --> 02:57:29.719 But I will everyone to realize one thing. 3409 02:57:30.879 --> 02:57:35.680 As I stand here right now, I am six foot 3410 02:57:35.840 --> 02:57:38.719 nine and over three hundred. 3411 02:57:38.520 --> 02:57:44.920 Pounds, and tomorrow I was a sixty. 3412 02:57:44.719 --> 02:57:47.879 Times three hundred pounds. 3413 02:57:48.440 --> 02:57:51.200 No doubt, I'm a going to day after and the 3414 02:57:51.399 --> 02:57:52.360 day after. 3415 02:57:56.319 --> 02:57:58.719 Earthy day after. 3416 02:58:02.600 --> 02:58:05.079 This man is he's little nets but stuff. To be 3417 02:58:05.159 --> 02:58:10.799 honest about it, I don't know, not working for me. No, 3418 02:58:11.280 --> 02:58:13.399 I mean, listen, he says the same thing over and 3419 02:58:13.479 --> 02:58:16.959 over again. It's not you know he it's kind of 3420 02:58:17.000 --> 02:58:18.840 funny because he I feel like he had more to 3421 02:58:18.920 --> 02:58:20.479 say in ninety two. 3422 02:58:22.559 --> 02:58:22.719 You know. 3423 02:58:23.040 --> 02:58:25.239 Now it's just the same shit over and over again. Yeah, 3424 02:58:25.239 --> 02:58:25.840 you're probably right. 3425 02:58:26.799 --> 02:58:29.479 It got the psycho character, so it's like it's all 3426 02:58:29.520 --> 02:58:32.000 affect and like there doesn't seem to be a great 3427 02:58:32.479 --> 02:58:34.399 depth of things that he's able to pull out and say. 3428 02:58:34.559 --> 02:58:38.319 It's just like as long as I scream and laugh 3429 02:58:38.639 --> 02:58:41.399 maniacally at certain beats. They clearly fed him the super 3430 02:58:41.440 --> 02:58:44.120 Predator line that was a new one. Yeah, that was 3431 02:58:44.120 --> 02:58:47.159 a big one in the news, like a characterizing like 3432 02:58:47.239 --> 02:58:50.719 inner city youth that were killing and murders like super predators. 3433 02:58:50.760 --> 02:58:53.360 That's very ninety six of them to try to adopt 3434 02:58:53.440 --> 02:58:57.360 that phrase and their Sid just try and trying to 3435 02:58:58.600 --> 02:59:00.520 to sound like somebody that we should receive as our 3436 02:59:00.639 --> 02:59:02.680 WWF champion, And I'm not sure it's working. 3437 02:59:04.040 --> 02:59:05.200 Yeah, no, I don't think it is. 3438 02:59:05.239 --> 02:59:08.680 Well, we do have the great luxury of Sid having 3439 02:59:08.760 --> 02:59:12.079 taken the strap right around Christmas time as we head 3440 02:59:12.079 --> 02:59:15.239 into the holiday season here as well. We were the 3441 02:59:15.319 --> 02:59:19.639 beneficiaries because when the crack WWF production staff got together 3442 02:59:19.760 --> 02:59:21.639 to try to come up with some holiday themed content 3443 02:59:21.760 --> 02:59:24.680 for the syndicated weekend shows and such, the fact that 3444 02:59:25.000 --> 02:59:27.319 Sid was champion allowed them to create a little jingle. 3445 02:59:27.399 --> 03:00:01.559 Do you remember this, No happy Holidays from the World 3446 03:00:01.600 --> 03:00:02.360 Wrestling Families. 3447 03:00:02.719 --> 03:00:06.959 You're a damn right, So yeah you better? Uh what 3448 03:00:07.120 --> 03:00:07.239 was it? 3449 03:00:07.319 --> 03:00:10.719 A choke slam and a power bomb and uh, they 3450 03:00:10.760 --> 03:00:14.680 were just they were just trying to make holiday content 3451 03:00:14.799 --> 03:00:16.360 around Sid. It was so bizarre. 3452 03:00:16.879 --> 03:00:19.959 And you know when they would do that around certain guys, 3453 03:00:20.079 --> 03:00:24.159 it was always so fucking weird. You know, it's a guy. 3454 03:00:24.280 --> 03:00:26.719 You know, there's one. There are a few people, and 3455 03:00:26.799 --> 03:00:29.680 Sid's one of them. You don't need to make him Christmas, 3456 03:00:30.639 --> 03:00:33.000 all right, he's like the he's like the opposite of Christmas. 3457 03:00:33.040 --> 03:00:35.040 It doesn't occur to them like whether it fits. It's 3458 03:00:35.120 --> 03:00:37.280 just like, well, all these guys are fair game for 3459 03:00:37.360 --> 03:00:42.319 a little well we do can't well we could be lighthearted, 3460 03:00:42.360 --> 03:00:44.559 we can have some fun. These guys are entertainers. 3461 03:00:45.040 --> 03:00:47.040 It's like like like like the entertained. 3462 03:00:47.079 --> 03:00:49.559 Actually Sid isn't an entertainer, Vince, He's if you make 3463 03:00:49.639 --> 03:00:52.399 him a parade float, suddenly he's he's not as interesting 3464 03:00:52.479 --> 03:00:54.719 to watch as a wrestler now as yeah uh. And 3465 03:00:54.879 --> 03:00:57.680 to further humanize the man, probably to his detriment, Let's 3466 03:00:57.719 --> 03:00:59.920 not forget. This is also the winter of Live Why 3467 03:01:00.280 --> 03:01:04.159 the Live Wire experiment October I believe it was they 3468 03:01:04.280 --> 03:01:07.159 or September, they just started doing this Saturday morning call 3469 03:01:07.239 --> 03:01:10.360 in show concept from the television facilities in Stanford, where 3470 03:01:10.559 --> 03:01:12.879 you know it would just be Vince and Sonny or 3471 03:01:13.000 --> 03:01:15.959 Jim Ross or whoever it was. Vince Russo be involved 3472 03:01:16.000 --> 03:01:18.719 taking phone calls from ww fans and emails and stuff, 3473 03:01:18.760 --> 03:01:22.559 and they'd have special in guests in studio, guests that 3474 03:01:22.639 --> 03:01:25.840 would you know, ninety percent k fabe in the interviews. 3475 03:01:25.920 --> 03:01:27.680 But you know, it was interesting because they take calls 3476 03:01:27.680 --> 03:01:30.600 from people that would ask about WCW and kind of 3477 03:01:30.639 --> 03:01:32.879 like troll jobs, and they'd try to, you know, Vince 3478 03:01:32.959 --> 03:01:35.760 Russo would try to say shooty things on the show. 3479 03:01:36.239 --> 03:01:37.799 And uh, what do you know? 3480 03:01:37.920 --> 03:01:40.920 Christmas nineteen ninety six, that live wire not Christmas Day, 3481 03:01:40.959 --> 03:01:43.559 but that you know, the live wire before Christmas. Sid 3482 03:01:43.680 --> 03:01:48.159 makes the trip. The WWF champion is in studio, and Boss, 3483 03:01:48.200 --> 03:01:50.879 you better believe he's taking your calls. 3484 03:01:51.479 --> 03:01:53.440 But if we take some calls from the subs and 3485 03:01:54.040 --> 03:01:55.959 go to Craig in Florida, Craig you. 3486 03:01:56.040 --> 03:01:58.000 That, oh, I'm certainly here. Good morning to you. 3487 03:01:58.159 --> 03:01:59.879 Donc get goodness sure this is a real guy. 3488 03:02:00.040 --> 03:02:02.079 By the way you the man did. I was there 3489 03:02:02.159 --> 03:02:04.920 West Palm Beat Auditorium. The way you took care of Brett. 3490 03:02:04.760 --> 03:02:06.799 To hit man heart a thing of beauty. 3491 03:02:07.040 --> 03:02:08.639 I got to tell you, root for you to take 3492 03:02:08.680 --> 03:02:09.559 care of Sewn Michaels. 3493 03:02:09.600 --> 03:02:12.040 I'm tired of hearing him running his mouth, complaining Brett 3494 03:02:12.079 --> 03:02:14.799 Harr complaining you got anything in doors special for Shawn 3495 03:02:14.840 --> 03:02:15.840 Michaels to take him down. 3496 03:02:16.399 --> 03:02:17.760 I'm will tell you a step that I'm going to 3497 03:02:17.799 --> 03:02:20.959 take to Sean Michael's Trim Survivor series when has always 3498 03:02:21.040 --> 03:02:23.559 worked for me, and that is my game plan. That 3499 03:02:23.760 --> 03:02:27.440 is power, that is strange, and that's what's coming straight on, 3500 03:02:28.040 --> 03:02:28.479 straight on. 3501 03:02:29.000 --> 03:02:30.840 Well right now, tell you who's straight on. 3502 03:02:34.479 --> 03:02:34.719 Today? 3503 03:02:34.799 --> 03:02:36.920 Good morning, b You have a question? 3504 03:02:36.959 --> 03:02:40.239 Ever said? Yeah, Well, first of all, I decided I'm 3505 03:02:40.239 --> 03:02:42.559 a major SIT fan for years. I think it's about 3506 03:02:42.600 --> 03:02:46.239 time that he has a title. Right, And my question 3507 03:02:46.440 --> 03:02:49.840 is how older wife said, doesn't put his opponents o 3508 03:02:49.959 --> 03:02:52.360 stretcher and knocking on the alley more like he used to. 3509 03:02:52.760 --> 03:02:54.079 Well, let me tell you something. 3510 03:02:54.399 --> 03:02:57.520 See that's what that's what I might have him store 3511 03:02:57.639 --> 03:03:01.639 coming Alamo. Don't but don't be surprised if it happened 3512 03:03:01.879 --> 03:03:05.120 and Yushaine Michael or the first one to be stretchered out. 3513 03:03:05.840 --> 03:03:06.159 Cool. 3514 03:03:06.600 --> 03:03:09.360 I believe them could be a prophetics named it. There 3515 03:03:10.079 --> 03:03:11.680 are you saying that you would like to. 3516 03:03:11.719 --> 03:03:14.159 Have Shawn stretched out in front of seventy thousand people? 3517 03:03:14.600 --> 03:03:16.680 I would just say that it would it would just 3518 03:03:16.920 --> 03:03:18.559 prove everyone's too is demand? 3519 03:03:19.079 --> 03:03:21.879 Well, I would have to say, right now, twenty seven days, 3520 03:03:22.000 --> 03:03:24.920 you power bomb Brett Hard and Shawn Michael's within that 3521 03:03:25.040 --> 03:03:27.799 twenty seven days. Undoubtedly we are in a new era 3522 03:03:27.959 --> 03:03:29.520 here in the World Wrestling Federation. 3523 03:03:29.879 --> 03:03:30.399 But sid you. 3524 03:03:30.479 --> 03:03:32.360 Gotta admit your work's cut out for you three weeks 3525 03:03:32.399 --> 03:03:32.840 from the morrow. 3526 03:03:32.959 --> 03:03:34.840 Well, I'm gonna tell you something. My work has been 3527 03:03:34.879 --> 03:03:37.120 cut out the day one dog, But I'm gonna tell 3528 03:03:37.120 --> 03:03:37.479 you something. 3529 03:03:37.559 --> 03:03:38.680 My head's off to you, SHAWNE. 3530 03:03:38.719 --> 03:03:39.040 Michael. 3531 03:03:39.319 --> 03:03:40.040 My hat's off to you. 3532 03:03:40.200 --> 03:03:43.799 Bretton Hitman Heart, the one time World Wrestling Federation Champion. 3533 03:03:44.399 --> 03:03:47.120 I now know the pressures of having this belt around 3534 03:03:47.159 --> 03:03:50.159 your waist. I feel the pressures on my shoulders, but 3535 03:03:50.360 --> 03:03:52.879 I actually take the pressures and I can carry the 3536 03:03:53.000 --> 03:03:55.440 load of the World Wrestling Federation. 3537 03:03:55.760 --> 03:03:57.319 Let me ask you about pressure. 3538 03:03:57.959 --> 03:03:58.159 Now. 3539 03:03:58.479 --> 03:03:59.639 We talked about this earlier. 3540 03:03:59.760 --> 03:04:02.559 You do have a beat fan following. 3541 03:04:04.000 --> 03:04:04.719 Your mindset. 3542 03:04:05.079 --> 03:04:06.959 You don't care what happens as long as you get 3543 03:04:07.000 --> 03:04:07.520 a victory. 3544 03:04:07.840 --> 03:04:11.040 Now, how important are these people as far as motivating you? 3545 03:04:11.520 --> 03:04:12.399 Will tell you something. 3546 03:04:12.440 --> 03:04:14.520 When you're down, your look, your face is down on 3547 03:04:14.600 --> 03:04:17.280 the mat. The only thing that brings you up is 3548 03:04:17.399 --> 03:04:21.799 the fans, either doing or cheering the fans. Everything that 3549 03:04:22.319 --> 03:04:24.719 comes through your body and out through into your heart 3550 03:04:24.879 --> 03:04:26.719 and out your eyes, out to your skin. 3551 03:04:26.840 --> 03:04:28.680 Pards here feel the fans. 3552 03:04:29.120 --> 03:04:30.239 I feel them, and. 3553 03:04:31.799 --> 03:04:33.639 I've heard them from day once since I've been back 3554 03:04:33.639 --> 03:04:36.239 in the World Rusting Federation, and I will continue. 3555 03:04:36.360 --> 03:04:36.559 Doc. 3556 03:04:37.360 --> 03:04:38.879 Are you go ahead? 3557 03:04:38.920 --> 03:04:40.200 Would one mind taking another phone call? 3558 03:04:40.239 --> 03:04:41.520 And those people would love to shock you. 3559 03:04:41.959 --> 03:04:43.159 Let's take Mike in Connecticut. 3560 03:04:43.239 --> 03:04:44.799 Mikey there, Yeah, how are you doing? 3561 03:04:45.079 --> 03:04:45.959 You got a question for sick? 3562 03:04:46.040 --> 03:04:46.239 Yeah? 3563 03:04:46.239 --> 03:04:47.479 Happy holidays everybody. 3564 03:04:47.639 --> 03:04:47.879 Thank you. 3565 03:04:48.399 --> 03:04:48.639 Sid. 3566 03:04:48.719 --> 03:04:50.760 I just want to say I'm a major fan of yours. 3567 03:04:50.799 --> 03:04:54.200 I'm glad that you destroyed the heartburn kid there, and uh, 3568 03:04:55.079 --> 03:04:55.440 what's on? 3569 03:04:55.760 --> 03:04:55.879 Uh? 3570 03:04:56.200 --> 03:04:58.719 What else is on the horizon for sit in ninety seven, 3571 03:04:58.840 --> 03:05:00.719 not only with yeah on coming. 3572 03:05:00.639 --> 03:05:04.000 Up and possibly Brett, but maybe a possible match with 3573 03:05:04.079 --> 03:05:05.319 you Invader maybe. 3574 03:05:05.280 --> 03:05:06.440 Well, I'm gonna tell you something. 3575 03:05:06.520 --> 03:05:06.920 Messages. 3576 03:05:07.319 --> 03:05:11.000 Being the World Wrestling Fair Racing Champion, you cannot go 3577 03:05:11.280 --> 03:05:12.879 by thinking who's your next opponent. 3578 03:05:13.040 --> 03:05:15.120 You gotta live off the interstinct. 3579 03:05:14.680 --> 03:05:17.319 And instinct is the only thing that's gonna make you survive, 3580 03:05:17.639 --> 03:05:19.000 help you make it to the next day. 3581 03:05:19.159 --> 03:05:20.879 And that's the one thing I have going for me 3582 03:05:21.159 --> 03:05:22.000 is good instinct. 3583 03:05:22.479 --> 03:05:39.959 I have a la fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast 3584 03:05:40.040 --> 03:05:43.399 that knows the boys need their candy. It's the lapsed 3585 03:05:43.479 --> 03:06:01.440 fan fan wrestling with Jack. 3586 03:06:01.520 --> 03:06:05.760 And that's the one thing he's got going for him. 3587 03:06:05.799 --> 03:06:08.239 Boss Good. Who's the woman there that's sunny? 3588 03:06:09.680 --> 03:06:10.959 It was. 3589 03:06:11.040 --> 03:06:13.760 Yeah, obviously the tape quality is poor, but they don't 3590 03:06:13.799 --> 03:06:16.920 have pristine quality ones on the on the network for 3591 03:06:17.079 --> 03:06:21.000 this live wire stuff. But yeah, that's one thing he's 3592 03:06:21.000 --> 03:06:23.799 always had going for him as instinct, uh. 3593 03:06:25.280 --> 03:06:26.559 Is in Yes he stinks. 3594 03:06:26.719 --> 03:06:30.760 Isn't he such a charmer? And that extemporaneous speaking role, 3595 03:06:31.959 --> 03:06:33.520 it's awful. What's awful about it? 3596 03:06:34.239 --> 03:06:36.120 He just because he doesn't know what to fucking say. 3597 03:06:36.200 --> 03:06:39.879 He's got right, It's like he he It's like he 3598 03:06:39.959 --> 03:06:42.120 comes in there with an attitude and then he blanks, 3599 03:06:43.719 --> 03:06:45.399 you know, and he realized that the it's like the 3600 03:06:45.440 --> 03:06:48.840 attitude can't get you through it all, Like you need 3601 03:06:49.200 --> 03:06:53.280 more this attitude. You need to have a fucking point. 3602 03:06:53.360 --> 03:06:57.159 It's like I already said that. Uh, I already said that. 3603 03:06:57.440 --> 03:06:59.360 You can almost hear him like run out of things. 3604 03:07:00.120 --> 03:07:02.959 Yeah, exactly, And it's awful later. 3605 03:07:02.840 --> 03:07:04.559 On in the show, and it wasn't I try to 3606 03:07:04.600 --> 03:07:06.680 write home about But Shawn michaels him cell phones in 3607 03:07:07.399 --> 03:07:10.079 probably slept in as well and screamed it said a 3608 03:07:10.120 --> 03:07:12.239 little bit and said we'll rustling Federation one hundred times. 3609 03:07:12.840 --> 03:07:15.120 And we go to the December thirtieth raw where Brett 3610 03:07:15.159 --> 03:07:17.079 and Seawan are in a face off and they call Sewan, 3611 03:07:17.120 --> 03:07:19.120 I believe, for the very first time on WF television, 3612 03:07:19.159 --> 03:07:21.799 a degenerate. I think it's the first time really the 3613 03:07:21.840 --> 03:07:25.319 word degeneratives used, yes, and then Brett attacks Austin during 3614 03:07:25.360 --> 03:07:28.280 a tag match. Brett says, this is the show, the 3615 03:07:28.319 --> 03:07:30.680 December thirtieth raw where Brett jumps on Sean for being 3616 03:07:30.680 --> 03:07:35.040 in Playgirl, which was a key kind of point of 3617 03:07:35.079 --> 03:07:37.520 friction between the two, something where you know, Brett of 3618 03:07:37.559 --> 03:07:39.799 course claims he cleared it with Sean beforehand, but Seawn 3619 03:07:39.920 --> 03:07:42.600 just took it in a way that wasn't expected. He says, Playgirl, 3620 03:07:42.639 --> 03:07:44.680 I don't think any girls buy that magazine, you know, 3621 03:07:44.799 --> 03:07:49.760 intimating whatever you will, and then he says, you've degraded 3622 03:07:49.760 --> 03:07:52.440 the championship, which is a you know, it's a little 3623 03:07:52.479 --> 03:07:55.639 close to home too, because, like I said, you can 3624 03:07:55.719 --> 03:07:58.360 look at it as Brett saying that because Shawn's in Playgirl, 3625 03:07:58.440 --> 03:08:01.760 and like doing immoral things. But you can also look 3626 03:08:01.799 --> 03:08:04.239 at it as you've degraded the title in that it's 3627 03:08:04.280 --> 03:08:06.639 not as right, it's not as prestigious as it was 3628 03:08:06.680 --> 03:08:07.559 when I had it, and you know. 3629 03:08:07.639 --> 03:08:09.760 It right and because you want it right. 3630 03:08:11.399 --> 03:08:13.280 He's basically Brett comes right out and says, if you're 3631 03:08:13.319 --> 03:08:17.319 not fourteen year old, fourteen years old and female, you 3632 03:08:17.399 --> 03:08:22.159 were a step down essentially as champion, and h I 3633 03:08:22.360 --> 03:08:25.000 kick your ass because I can, and Sean says, yeah. 3634 03:08:26.079 --> 03:08:27.639 This is where Sean fires back, and I have a 3635 03:08:27.680 --> 03:08:29.959 hard time believing that this one was arranged ahead of time. 3636 03:08:30.319 --> 03:08:32.399 He says it with kind of like an annoyed tone. 3637 03:08:32.440 --> 03:08:34.440 He says, I've seen you on the road, pal, and 3638 03:08:34.600 --> 03:08:39.319 you're no role model. Wow, Sean bringing up you know, 3639 03:08:39.440 --> 03:08:41.040 that's kind of like a preview of the Sunny Days 3640 03:08:41.079 --> 03:08:43.559 comment in a lot of ways. Yeah, sure, So this 3641 03:08:43.799 --> 03:08:47.799 is like the first to me claws out caddy kind 3642 03:08:47.840 --> 03:08:50.440 of exchange between Sean and bretn on television. They'd had brawls, 3643 03:08:50.479 --> 03:08:53.040 they had had cross words, but they always felt like 3644 03:08:53.120 --> 03:08:57.319 they had more pomp and circumstance and blustered to them 3645 03:08:57.399 --> 03:09:00.360 and sort of like promo over the topness whereas this 3646 03:09:00.399 --> 03:09:01.879 one was kind of like, these guys are cutting into 3647 03:09:01.920 --> 03:09:05.920 each other saying things that that it's not really business 3648 03:09:06.040 --> 03:09:08.280 to to say those things about Sean. 3649 03:09:08.479 --> 03:09:10.360 You know, it's it's not going to help. 3650 03:09:10.760 --> 03:09:12.479 It might help sell the match, but it's not going 3651 03:09:12.559 --> 03:09:16.559 to help, you know, Sean be perceived as as someone 3652 03:09:16.600 --> 03:09:18.520 to be taken seriously as an n ring guy, and 3653 03:09:18.559 --> 03:09:21.680 he's coming up on the Royal Rumble, and you've got 3654 03:09:21.719 --> 03:09:24.360 Brett reminding people that gay guys look at playgirl. You know, 3655 03:09:25.239 --> 03:09:28.040 I'm not sure this isn't actually a huge moment because 3656 03:09:28.079 --> 03:09:30.559 these two. Yeah, but the point of this for our 3657 03:09:30.600 --> 03:09:33.319 purposes this time is Sid comes out any screams you've 3658 03:09:33.360 --> 03:09:35.920 played the game, I'm sure, He says, it's very simple 3659 03:09:36.000 --> 03:09:36.520 at one point. 3660 03:09:36.559 --> 03:09:40.120 That's another one. Yeah, simple, very simple. Yeah, it has 3661 03:09:40.200 --> 03:09:43.120 to be real simple. It has to be Sid. I mean, 3662 03:09:43.159 --> 03:09:46.719 they wouldn't they wouldn't hand you something complicated to say. Yeah, listen, 3663 03:09:47.159 --> 03:09:49.639 you've proved that simplicity is the only way you can go. 3664 03:09:50.760 --> 03:09:53.799 He says, I've beat you both. I need competition. And 3665 03:09:53.920 --> 03:09:56.440 it's at this point December thirtieth, nineteen ninety six, this 3666 03:09:56.559 --> 03:09:59.440 is the line in the sand. To me, the Undertaker's 3667 03:09:59.479 --> 03:10:03.440 gong hits, and the Undertaker comes out, and they tease 3668 03:10:03.520 --> 03:10:05.680 for the first time that Sid and Undertaker is a 3669 03:10:05.760 --> 03:10:08.479 match you will want to see. Now, we've heard Bruce 3670 03:10:08.520 --> 03:10:12.479 Pritchard say before that Sid Undertaker was always going to 3671 03:10:12.479 --> 03:10:16.319 be at WrestleMania, but not necessarily for the championship, and 3672 03:10:16.399 --> 03:10:18.120 that really tracks when you think about the kind of 3673 03:10:18.159 --> 03:10:20.760 opponent they tended to match up Undertaker with at WrestleMania 3674 03:10:20.840 --> 03:10:23.559 in that sure period. Sure, totally someone of his height 3675 03:10:23.680 --> 03:10:26.079 and stature. It was Diesel, it was Jan Gonzalez, it 3676 03:10:26.200 --> 03:10:27.879 was huge guys. 3677 03:10:28.040 --> 03:10:31.000 And kund it was everybody. 3678 03:10:31.639 --> 03:10:33.840 So I think we're within our rights to think of 3679 03:10:33.920 --> 03:10:38.319 what we're seeing here is them setting up Sean winning 3680 03:10:38.360 --> 03:10:41.120 the title back from Sid and wrestling Brett Hart at WrestleMania, 3681 03:10:41.959 --> 03:10:45.760 and Sid facing Undertaker in a singles match, but knowing 3682 03:10:45.879 --> 03:10:48.079 that a non title match, but knowing that it becomes 3683 03:10:48.079 --> 03:10:49.920 Sid and Taker for the title. It's also easy to 3684 03:10:49.959 --> 03:10:52.520 look at this raw and say, oh, they knew that 3685 03:10:52.639 --> 03:10:54.680 that was going to be the WrestleMania thirteen main event 3686 03:10:55.319 --> 03:10:57.719 months before, But I don't think that's what this was. 3687 03:10:57.760 --> 03:11:00.559 I think this was them setting up a match for 3688 03:11:00.719 --> 03:11:03.879 after Sid dropped the strap with no consideration of it 3689 03:11:03.959 --> 03:11:06.799 being a match where Undertaker would win the belt, just 3690 03:11:06.879 --> 03:11:09.559 because of the way it's presaged by the Brett Sean fight. 3691 03:11:09.879 --> 03:11:12.840 That's clearly trying to set up and get you excited 3692 03:11:12.879 --> 03:11:15.920 for Brett versus Sean on the other side, just fascinating 3693 03:11:15.959 --> 03:11:18.799 stuff going on, all kinds of games. So Taker comes out, 3694 03:11:18.879 --> 03:11:21.239 Vader attacks Hi, actually because Vader's going to wrestle Undertaker 3695 03:11:21.239 --> 03:11:25.959 at Royal Rumble. Remember that, oh god, Vader pins Undertaker 3696 03:11:26.040 --> 03:11:30.079 clean at the Royal Rumble, which is to me probably 3697 03:11:30.120 --> 03:11:33.280 a make good for stepping aside in the fall and 3698 03:11:33.360 --> 03:11:36.000 letting Sid take the center stage and the championship. And 3699 03:11:36.079 --> 03:11:39.479 if you give a Vader Winter Undertaker, then it can 3700 03:11:39.760 --> 03:11:41.600 come back and benefit him later. Of course, it never 3701 03:11:41.680 --> 03:11:44.520 really did, No, it did not. It was a complete 3702 03:11:44.719 --> 03:11:48.120 waste of waste of a match. But it is important 3703 03:11:48.120 --> 03:11:50.319 to remember that the final rob nineteen ninety six has 3704 03:11:50.360 --> 03:11:53.520 Sid and the Undertaker facing off and then Sean doing 3705 03:11:53.600 --> 03:11:55.879 a big dive over the ropes to the floor onto Sid, 3706 03:11:55.959 --> 03:11:59.440 and it's a big old brawl. We flip the calendar 3707 03:11:59.440 --> 03:12:01.760 to nineteen eighty seven. On the January sixth, raw the 3708 03:12:01.799 --> 03:12:04.879 first of ninety seven. As Sid makes his way to 3709 03:12:04.959 --> 03:12:07.600 the ring. The signs and the crowd include one that 3710 03:12:07.719 --> 03:12:09.959 says Sid enough said. 3711 03:12:11.239 --> 03:12:13.399 If only that was the case, and no right, I 3712 03:12:13.440 --> 03:12:17.399 mean it's funny on so many levels. 3713 03:12:17.680 --> 03:12:21.440 On January the nineteenth, in San Antonio, Texas, there will 3714 03:12:21.479 --> 03:12:26.440 be seventy thousand fans in attendance, cheering the hometown hero 3715 03:12:27.280 --> 03:12:30.440 Sean Michaels, who will attempt to regain. 3716 03:12:30.440 --> 03:12:31.879 The WWF title? 3717 03:12:33.680 --> 03:12:37.079 Or are you that didn't sound positive in timid days? 3718 03:12:37.159 --> 03:12:41.719 No about going into such hostile territory in San Antonio. 3719 03:12:43.319 --> 03:12:49.680 See dear Ross, you haven't even got a clue because 3720 03:12:50.239 --> 03:12:53.239 I intimidated by nothing. 3721 03:12:55.159 --> 03:13:01.719 No man, then wolves, what we're standing in. 3722 03:13:01.840 --> 03:13:06.399 Here right, here's what I consider the dying field. 3723 03:13:07.360 --> 03:13:09.040 And inside this area. 3724 03:13:11.639 --> 03:13:14.000 We'll be hidden hitting. 3725 03:13:13.920 --> 03:13:19.520 The dick, We'll be dickings. I'm caso take. 3726 03:13:19.399 --> 03:13:20.239 The camera. 3727 03:13:21.479 --> 03:13:24.479 And hit someone before you were hit first. 3728 03:13:25.079 --> 03:13:28.719 Told you wouldn't apologize me, man, good. 3729 03:13:28.600 --> 03:13:33.799 Dying Seeing San Antonio Talamo Dome, everybody's gonna. 3730 03:13:33.600 --> 03:13:36.479 Realize something dislike that scene that. 3731 03:13:36.639 --> 03:13:37.639 Day I was born. 3732 03:13:38.520 --> 03:13:39.920 I was born the man. 3733 03:13:43.920 --> 03:13:49.559 See Sean Michaels, you, my friend, you can never have 3734 03:13:49.959 --> 03:13:52.440 that clean I don't care, even if it's. 3735 03:13:52.360 --> 03:13:53.319 In your hometown. 3736 03:13:54.520 --> 03:13:58.360 So I'm gonna walk kidsto San Antonio. But the yards 3737 03:13:58.399 --> 03:13:59.040 against me. 3738 03:14:00.840 --> 03:14:01.840 I will walk in. 3739 03:14:02.040 --> 03:14:02.680 The man. 3740 03:14:07.040 --> 03:14:08.440 And I will walk out. 3741 03:14:12.520 --> 03:14:19.280 Yes, Oh, look out the man. Oh I say this, 3742 03:14:21.760 --> 03:14:26.000 does it, Susan? Because I am the master? 3743 03:14:27.600 --> 03:14:30.799 Yeah, and I am the ru the ruler. Blah blah 3744 03:14:30.840 --> 03:14:37.559 blah blah blah. I get it. Well. 3745 03:14:37.600 --> 03:14:40.120 That remained today saying I would suggest I remember said 3746 03:14:40.280 --> 03:14:41.360 is not the underdog. 3747 03:14:41.879 --> 03:14:44.319 John Michaels clearly is the hunderdog. 3748 03:14:44.639 --> 03:14:45.559 Cannot learn about it. 3749 03:14:46.319 --> 03:14:49.200 I somehow don't understand, don't remember or call boss when 3750 03:14:49.200 --> 03:14:52.479 we were doing the Terry Funk Journey uh doing his 3751 03:14:52.639 --> 03:14:54.639 interviews in succession and being like, oh god, here he 3752 03:14:54.719 --> 03:14:57.040 goes again. I don't think a single time. 3753 03:14:58.120 --> 03:15:02.639 It's like it really is. Know, it's impactful when he 3754 03:15:02.719 --> 03:15:08.200 says it once in a while, but every time it's 3755 03:15:08.280 --> 03:15:08.680 not good. 3756 03:15:08.799 --> 03:15:10.719 Guys shouldn't even talk for like a month, you know, 3757 03:15:11.280 --> 03:15:13.639 I know, you should only be brought to talk in 3758 03:15:13.719 --> 03:15:17.639 an explosion of you know, intensity or something. Yeah, but 3759 03:15:17.719 --> 03:15:20.280 I mean we're really seeing you know, his upper his 3760 03:15:20.399 --> 03:15:22.639 upper limit, We're seeing his ceiling, and we forget this 3761 03:15:23.280 --> 03:15:26.239 when when the guy passes away, and we, you know, 3762 03:15:26.360 --> 03:15:29.440 think so fondly on the moments that he participated in 3763 03:15:29.520 --> 03:15:32.239 that impacted us as fans when a week to week 3764 03:15:32.280 --> 03:15:33.639 it was kind of a chore to watch him do 3765 03:15:33.719 --> 03:15:37.559 his thing, even as WWF champion. So here there we 3766 03:15:37.639 --> 03:15:40.440 are in nineteen ninety seven. Later, Sean comes to the 3767 03:15:40.440 --> 03:15:43.159 commentary table and Sid says he wants to apologize for 3768 03:15:43.280 --> 03:15:45.440 what he's going to do. He's someone apologize to you 3769 03:15:45.559 --> 03:15:48.159 for attacking over Lithario. He wants to apologize for what 3770 03:15:48.239 --> 03:15:48.719 he's going. 3771 03:15:48.600 --> 03:15:49.000 To do to you. 3772 03:15:49.159 --> 03:15:53.719 How aboudy apologizing to us for fucking awful promo? Oh 3773 03:15:53.760 --> 03:15:56.000 he doesn't do that. Later on the show. 3774 03:15:56.120 --> 03:15:57.879 I don't know if you remember this, Remember when Pete 3775 03:15:57.920 --> 03:16:00.559 Lothario's son was backstage and said power bombed him on 3776 03:16:00.559 --> 03:16:00.920 a table. 3777 03:16:01.840 --> 03:16:09.360 I mean, I mean Pete Lothario, Pete. I remember seeing 3778 03:16:10.239 --> 03:16:11.760 clips of it. I didn't see it happen. 3779 03:16:12.399 --> 03:16:14.680 Yeah, they played it up on the Rumol Landy seven 3780 03:16:14.719 --> 03:16:16.760 broadcast as well. But it's on this raw or Pete 3781 03:16:16.799 --> 03:16:19.399 Lothario's backstage and his cowboy boots or whatever, and Sid 3782 03:16:19.680 --> 03:16:22.159 grabs him by the throat. Just an innocent bystander, right, 3783 03:16:22.799 --> 03:16:27.479 to further exacerbate the the cowardly attacks that he was 3784 03:16:27.559 --> 03:16:33.120 making on Lothario to get it Sean heading into. But 3785 03:16:33.520 --> 03:16:36.000 then we have an inspired promo and come to find 3786 03:16:36.040 --> 03:16:38.159 out there is a different approach to this one. This 3787 03:16:38.399 --> 03:16:41.559 is a promo that Sid cut in an empty Alamo 3788 03:16:41.639 --> 03:16:43.479 Dome to be the site of his upcoming match with 3789 03:16:43.559 --> 03:16:47.000 Sean Michaels, and Sid is kind of contemplating on what's 3790 03:16:47.040 --> 03:16:48.719 going to happen in these hallowed halls? 3791 03:16:49.360 --> 03:16:51.040 Uh in just a in just a little while. 3792 03:16:51.639 --> 03:16:54.239 And the thing about this interview that's different is Sid 3793 03:16:54.280 --> 03:16:56.319 has said and shoots that this is pretty much the 3794 03:16:56.399 --> 03:16:58.440 only one that comes to his mind when they ask 3795 03:16:58.559 --> 03:17:00.959 him the question about you know, is it better now 3796 03:17:01.000 --> 03:17:03.120 that guys are handed scripts to read on promos than 3797 03:17:03.159 --> 03:17:06.040 it was before when they weren't. And he does say 3798 03:17:06.079 --> 03:17:09.159 that this promo right here was the only example that 3799 03:17:09.239 --> 03:17:12.399 he remembers a Vince handing him basically a script handing him, 3800 03:17:12.639 --> 03:17:14.040 you know, the structure of what to say. 3801 03:17:14.719 --> 03:17:15.280 And he liked it. 3802 03:17:15.920 --> 03:17:17.799 He said, I really thought it was thought out well. 3803 03:17:17.879 --> 03:17:19.319 It was something that at the time was a perfect 3804 03:17:19.360 --> 03:17:21.159 interview for the right time for that show, and it 3805 03:17:21.239 --> 03:17:23.920 was leaning up to the big show that at the 3806 03:17:23.959 --> 03:17:25.920 Alamo with Sean. I was in that empty arena and 3807 03:17:25.920 --> 03:17:28.760 I pretty much did word for word with Vince. They 3808 03:17:28.799 --> 03:17:30.239 were that good all the time. If they were that 3809 03:17:30.319 --> 03:17:31.719 good all the time, he said, I'd sit back and 3810 03:17:31.799 --> 03:17:33.000 let them do all those all the time. 3811 03:17:33.040 --> 03:17:35.799 But they weren't. And he said he had the luxury 3812 03:17:35.840 --> 03:17:37.639 because he kept a lot of the inner material himself. 3813 03:17:38.440 --> 03:17:41.760 Of being prepared, he says, he is always going to 3814 03:17:41.799 --> 03:17:47.719 be prepared with something you know exactly. But Vince would say, 3815 03:17:47.760 --> 03:17:49.559 you know, this guy knows his interviews. I doubt he'd 3816 03:17:49.559 --> 03:17:53.120 say that. But he says, they let me look at 3817 03:17:53.159 --> 03:17:54.959 one and say do you like this or what do 3818 03:17:55.040 --> 03:17:56.040 you think? You know? 3819 03:17:56.040 --> 03:17:58.840 They would bring material by him, and Sid says, if 3820 03:17:58.879 --> 03:18:01.000 I had one better than that, they'd let me do mine. 3821 03:18:02.239 --> 03:18:03.440 But he thinks of this one right here is one 3822 03:18:03.440 --> 03:18:05.559 of the better interviews he did. It was laid out perfect. 3823 03:18:05.680 --> 03:18:07.559 So if they come up with things like that, I'd say, 3824 03:18:08.159 --> 03:18:09.879 that's what I let them do. I think a lot 3825 03:18:09.920 --> 03:18:12.120 of times myself will have something good to say too, 3826 03:18:12.920 --> 03:18:15.200 and so I think I'll listen to him in that instance. Well, 3827 03:18:15.879 --> 03:18:16.600 you'd be the judge. 3828 03:18:16.680 --> 03:18:17.760 This is Sid. 3829 03:18:19.239 --> 03:18:22.120 Holding court, so to speak, under different pretenses and auspices. 3830 03:18:22.600 --> 03:18:25.680 Ahead of the Alamodim MATCHICT Royal Rumble with Shawn Michaels. 3831 03:18:27.559 --> 03:18:32.040 See over one hundred years ago, a great German philosopher. 3832 03:18:32.719 --> 03:18:38.840 He said, in the act of fighting monsters and the procedure, 3833 03:18:39.120 --> 03:18:43.719 be sure that you don't become a monster yourself. But 3834 03:18:43.879 --> 03:18:47.840 in the Alamodome, I will have to be the monster. 3835 03:18:49.159 --> 03:18:54.200 To take what is mine, to walk out the World. 3836 03:18:54.040 --> 03:18:55.520 Wrestling Federation champion. 3837 03:18:55.799 --> 03:18:58.120 And I think Sean Michaels would say the same thing. 3838 03:19:00.079 --> 03:19:05.520 The battle progresses, and at the right moment, I reach out, 3839 03:19:05.639 --> 03:19:08.719 shine and I have you by your throat. 3840 03:19:10.920 --> 03:19:13.120 The look did you look gift to me. 3841 03:19:15.239 --> 03:19:20.120 Will be obvious for over here it ring inside or 3842 03:19:20.200 --> 03:19:24.120 be your mother, And once you will know that look too, 3843 03:19:25.799 --> 03:19:29.079 and then all the way over here will. 3844 03:19:28.920 --> 03:19:32.959 Be whole saved. He will know that look too, but 3845 03:19:33.200 --> 03:19:36.520 this time he won't get on the apron. 3846 03:19:36.520 --> 03:19:37.559 Because he knows better. 3847 03:19:39.040 --> 03:19:41.840 And if someone told me that this section over here 3848 03:19:42.239 --> 03:19:45.399 was gonna be nothing but your friends from your hometown, 3849 03:19:45.559 --> 03:19:51.799 Seehan Michaels, but they will see that look too. And Jose, 3850 03:19:52.280 --> 03:19:55.479 you are going to summon all the Mexicans from Mexico. 3851 03:19:55.360 --> 03:19:58.719 And all above there, all above here, they will be 3852 03:19:59.239 --> 03:20:00.879 seventy thousand of them. 3853 03:20:01.600 --> 03:20:03.760 And even at the highest seat of the roof. 3854 03:20:07.079 --> 03:20:14.559 That look, and that look, this says at all, this 3855 03:20:14.719 --> 03:20:17.399 says Sid, You're a man. 3856 03:20:18.680 --> 03:20:19.479 You're the master. 3857 03:20:20.680 --> 03:20:29.520 And that was one several days out from the rumble, 3858 03:20:29.879 --> 03:20:32.360 and then the morning of the Rumble on Superstars, this aired. 3859 03:20:33.200 --> 03:20:35.920 No doubt, ladies and gentlemen, he is the most intimidating, 3860 03:20:36.000 --> 03:20:41.120 the most imposing WWF champion of all time. At six nine, 3861 03:20:41.239 --> 03:20:45.200 three hundred and thirteen pounds, indeed, he is an intimidator. 3862 03:20:45.920 --> 03:20:48.120 But Sid, you're probably the only man that I can 3863 03:20:48.200 --> 03:20:51.360 think of within thirty days to beat the Shawn Michaels 3864 03:20:51.399 --> 03:20:53.639 at the Survivor series and then Brett Hart on December 3865 03:20:53.639 --> 03:20:56.280 the fifteenth. In your house, Shawn Michaels, I talk to 3866 03:20:56.360 --> 03:20:58.680 him earlier. Seems to be under obviously a great deal 3867 03:20:58.719 --> 03:21:01.840 of pressure. But one would think, because you're in his hometown, 3868 03:21:02.159 --> 03:21:04.319 that you too, sir, are under a great deal of 3869 03:21:04.360 --> 03:21:05.079 pressure as well. 3870 03:21:06.239 --> 03:21:07.760 See, you're right, Jim Ross. 3871 03:21:08.440 --> 03:21:11.600 Everyone would have to say that the crushers on me. 3872 03:21:12.479 --> 03:21:17.879 I am in your hometown, Sahn Michaels, I. 3873 03:21:18.000 --> 03:21:21.399 Am the man, and the man feels no pressure. 3874 03:21:22.639 --> 03:21:24.120 Let's go back to earlier today. 3875 03:21:24.920 --> 03:21:27.159 Now, let's go back to Monday night roll when I 3876 03:21:27.239 --> 03:21:30.280 said at the Animal Doome that the people would see 3877 03:21:30.319 --> 03:21:34.600 it in your eyes were earlier today, Shahine Michaels, that 3878 03:21:35.159 --> 03:21:40.319 was there that same and then I heard the excuses. 3879 03:21:41.120 --> 03:21:44.000 I have few, I don't feel good excuses. 3880 03:21:45.200 --> 03:21:46.959 Try to walk. 3881 03:21:48.200 --> 03:21:51.680 Let's see Sehn Michaels at the Royal Rumbo when you 3882 03:21:51.879 --> 03:21:56.159 enter the ring with me, then I finally get my head. 3883 03:22:02.600 --> 03:22:12.000 Yeah, seventy suries. They will see the same look that 3884 03:22:12.159 --> 03:22:12.719 you show. 3885 03:22:14.479 --> 03:22:18.399 They will see the same look for fear. 3886 03:22:20.280 --> 03:22:25.399 That you cannot be the man. Yeah, for I am 3887 03:22:25.559 --> 03:22:30.920 the man, I am the master, I am the ruler. 3888 03:22:36.079 --> 03:22:41.680 H Later on the Free for All, he came out 3889 03:22:41.719 --> 03:22:44.159 with the belt resting on his shoulder before the people 3890 03:22:44.159 --> 03:22:47.079 who had already filed in, and again apologized for what 3891 03:22:47.200 --> 03:22:50.559 he was about to do. To sit in Jose Lethario 3892 03:22:51.280 --> 03:22:55.040 and it's time for that walk boss to walk in 3893 03:22:56.159 --> 03:23:00.719 to a packed Alamodome as w w F champion. 3894 03:23:01.959 --> 03:23:05.559 Sewn Michaels, Ladies and gentlemen applauding this capacity crowd. 3895 03:23:07.840 --> 03:23:09.639 And there, ladies and gentlemen. 3896 03:23:09.680 --> 03:23:13.280 There is the man if you would, there is the 3897 03:23:13.840 --> 03:23:18.840 World Rustling Federation champion. You can hear this capacity crowd beginning. 3898 03:23:18.520 --> 03:23:22.799 To view booreadder what they are viewing on this massive screen. 3899 03:23:23.280 --> 03:23:28.959 Yes, this monster and someone say this great champion on 3900 03:23:29.159 --> 03:23:31.319 his way to the square chuckle. 3901 03:23:31.799 --> 03:23:38.680 He has indeed dominating the World Rustling. 3902 03:23:38.399 --> 03:23:43.319 Federation as highest medal, defeating Sean Michael's defeating brown Hark. 3903 03:23:43.520 --> 03:23:45.280 And that brings us to this Jr. 3904 03:23:45.479 --> 03:23:51.479 This is Vince with one last flourishing what chifontimidating. 3905 03:23:51.319 --> 03:23:55.200 More dominating peynacal champion. 3906 03:23:54.840 --> 03:24:46.479 Ever s. 3907 03:25:00.040 --> 03:25:01.879 Oh, it has come down to death. 3908 03:25:03.120 --> 03:25:09.159 Shacko said, has his fans as well, Harry, the all 3909 03:25:09.239 --> 03:25:09.920 them all gone? 3910 03:25:11.760 --> 03:25:11.920 Well? 3911 03:25:12.040 --> 03:25:15.319 Fans them all out the United States over thirty states? 3912 03:25:16.440 --> 03:25:18.520 Brief or patres are here? 3913 03:25:19.280 --> 03:25:22.959 Sacha said, Yes, we'll have a scamandery a fans. I'm 3914 03:25:23.000 --> 03:25:24.280 sure they will be very much. 3915 03:25:24.719 --> 03:25:25.159 That's right. 3916 03:25:25.239 --> 03:25:27.760 You know what, this is a brilliant move by sich 3917 03:25:27.840 --> 03:25:30.920 Go Sin because I gotta tell you this, Sean Michael's 3918 03:25:30.959 --> 03:25:33.399 ego is so big it needs its own sip coach. 3919 03:25:33.600 --> 03:25:36.319 And when he sees even one from these over sixty 3920 03:25:36.399 --> 03:25:37.719 thousand fans, Jerry. 3921 03:25:37.520 --> 03:25:40.079 Fer said, that could blow his mind. 3922 03:25:40.360 --> 03:25:41.879 You can see Sean Michael snap. 3923 03:25:43.719 --> 03:25:47.760 I'll just keep this in mind said apologized and the 3924 03:25:47.879 --> 03:25:50.760 free for All. He apologize for what he has to 3925 03:25:50.879 --> 03:25:55.120 do tonight and the last time he apologize. Pete Lethario 3926 03:25:55.280 --> 03:25:57.200 went through a table. 3927 03:25:59.280 --> 03:26:03.200 Sid World Rustling Federation in Champion defeating Sean. 3928 03:26:03.040 --> 03:26:04.719 Michael Fanam Square Garden. 3929 03:26:04.879 --> 03:26:07.440 Half the survivors are and. 3930 03:26:07.559 --> 03:26:10.040 I know where are they all at all? 3931 03:26:13.079 --> 03:26:18.079 For Sean, it's just so disappointing kind of how, I 3932 03:26:18.120 --> 03:26:23.559 don't know, like, you know, he really fizzled so fast 3933 03:26:24.920 --> 03:26:31.319 as an interesting, badass bad guy. You're not feeling it there, No, no, 3934 03:26:31.799 --> 03:26:36.440 I'm over it. Really interesting, like he it's interesting. It's 3935 03:26:36.520 --> 03:26:41.520 kind of funny that his his promo work and his 3936 03:26:41.719 --> 03:26:48.520 intensity were much more easy to get behind before he 3937 03:26:48.639 --> 03:26:57.399 was champion. Yet when he becomes champion, he's uh, like 3938 03:26:57.520 --> 03:27:01.319 he just suddenly becomes utterly worthless. True. I mean it's 3939 03:27:01.360 --> 03:27:04.440 so you know, and I don't understand what about what 3940 03:27:04.559 --> 03:27:09.040 it is that makes that change. It's like you're giving 3941 03:27:09.120 --> 03:27:13.159 the belt, but why do you become different? Why do 3942 03:27:13.239 --> 03:27:17.120 you become why does it become such a buffoon? 3943 03:27:17.680 --> 03:27:22.319 Yeah, it's it's interesting, you know, casting is important. Casting 3944 03:27:22.440 --> 03:27:25.719 is a skill. Casting as an art. Yeah, and in wrestling, 3945 03:27:25.799 --> 03:27:28.520 guys whore just casting in the correct role or they're 3946 03:27:28.559 --> 03:27:30.360 not and you only realize when they're taken out of 3947 03:27:30.399 --> 03:27:32.799 that role that, Okay, they're not multifaceted enough to play 3948 03:27:32.799 --> 03:27:36.399 any role. They can't they can't adjust, they can't be like, Okay, 3949 03:27:36.520 --> 03:27:37.920 this is what I used to say. But now that 3950 03:27:37.959 --> 03:27:41.239 I'm the champion, what the fans, The way the fans 3951 03:27:41.280 --> 03:27:42.719 are going to look at me is going to change, 3952 03:27:42.719 --> 03:27:44.440 and so the way I express myself and relate to 3953 03:27:44.520 --> 03:27:47.000 them has to change. In that I have to create 3954 03:27:47.159 --> 03:27:50.079 interest in my opponent. He doesn't create an interest in 3955 03:27:50.159 --> 03:27:52.959 his opponent. He just sort of says the same thing 3956 03:27:53.319 --> 03:27:55.399 that he said. He's got to be the menace at 3957 03:27:55.440 --> 03:27:58.520 the door. He knows how to do that, which is 3958 03:27:58.559 --> 03:27:59.840 why I actually put a little bit of credence and 3959 03:27:59.879 --> 03:28:01.879 care and asked joking about you know, when they were 3960 03:28:01.879 --> 03:28:03.360 going to give him the Hogan spot in ninety one. 3961 03:28:03.399 --> 03:28:04.840 He says, what you need is a big, vicious heel, 3962 03:28:04.920 --> 03:28:07.639 because he knows that doesn't quite know what to do 3963 03:28:07.840 --> 03:28:11.799 if he is the title holder, that that's not really 3964 03:28:12.040 --> 03:28:14.319 how he put himself in a position and make more 3965 03:28:14.360 --> 03:28:16.520 money than he ever expected in the wrestling business, earlier 3966 03:28:16.600 --> 03:28:19.159 than he ever would have expected. He's going to keep 3967 03:28:19.200 --> 03:28:21.680 doing this, and you know what you get with Sid. 3968 03:28:21.840 --> 03:28:24.000 It's like Andre. If Andre had a title reign, you know, like, 3969 03:28:24.079 --> 03:28:29.559 what the fuck is he going to say with the belt? Yeah? Yeah, 3970 03:28:29.719 --> 03:28:32.120 I mean I guess you know, with Andre, you kind 3971 03:28:32.159 --> 03:28:34.600 of have somebody else speak for him. 3972 03:28:34.840 --> 03:28:39.559 But because Sid never had a program where his challenger 3973 03:28:40.159 --> 03:28:44.280 was nipping at his heels and creating doubt, or a 3974 03:28:44.399 --> 03:28:46.600 challenger who was in his facing, I'm taking that belt 3975 03:28:46.639 --> 03:28:49.079 off you beyond Sean, which we'd already seen. We'd already 3976 03:28:49.079 --> 03:28:51.879 seen the dynamic between Sid and Sean, right, but Sid 3977 03:28:51.879 --> 03:28:53.200 didn't have a kind of run where he was able 3978 03:28:53.239 --> 03:28:55.079 to prove that, like, no, I can spark interest in 3979 03:28:55.159 --> 03:28:59.120 a challenger for my belt, and I know how to 3980 03:28:59.200 --> 03:29:01.440 adjust what I'm doing and how I'm reacting to make 3981 03:29:01.520 --> 03:29:04.319 this other person feel like they're rising to my level 3982 03:29:04.959 --> 03:29:06.440 and that I need to be worried about them and 3983 03:29:06.479 --> 03:29:08.559 therefore elevate them in the process. There really wasn't that. 3984 03:29:08.680 --> 03:29:10.920 He just came out, to your point, said the same 3985 03:29:10.959 --> 03:29:12.920 things he used to say now going into Royal Rumble 3986 03:29:12.959 --> 03:29:15.840 nineteen ninety seven, as someone who was rather mortified at 3987 03:29:15.840 --> 03:29:18.200 the crowd reaction at Survivor's Series nineteen ninety six, do 3988 03:29:18.239 --> 03:29:21.360 you remember feeling like this was justice was done and 3989 03:29:21.399 --> 03:29:23.200 all was right with the world again when Shawn wins 3990 03:29:23.239 --> 03:29:25.879 and you know, storybook fashion, you. 3991 03:29:25.920 --> 03:29:29.760 Know, when Sean won the title back, it actually felt weird. Yes, 3992 03:29:29.799 --> 03:29:36.440 it did. It actually felt like it was I could 3993 03:29:36.479 --> 03:29:42.840 only the only equivalent championship run that I can think 3994 03:29:42.959 --> 03:29:48.399 of right now is when Flair won the title back 3995 03:29:48.479 --> 03:29:56.760 in ninety two, because both Flair and Sean had lost 3996 03:29:56.840 --> 03:30:06.559 the titles in such big fashion, splashy. Yeah, it just 3997 03:30:06.760 --> 03:30:12.159 didn't feel like I couldn't. It was like, there is 3998 03:30:12.440 --> 03:30:14.840 I don't feel it. I don't feel like they're champion anymore, 3999 03:30:15.000 --> 03:30:17.159 right right, All it really. 4000 03:30:17.040 --> 03:30:19.280 Did was kind of cheap, and the feeling of the 4001 03:30:19.319 --> 03:30:21.200 first title reign like I kind of felt stupid for 4002 03:30:21.319 --> 03:30:24.319 being as over the top excited that Randy Savage pinned 4003 03:30:24.600 --> 03:30:27.200 mc flair at WrestleMania when Flair just won the belt 4004 03:30:27.200 --> 03:30:27.879 a few months back. 4005 03:30:28.840 --> 03:30:31.920 Yeah, it just, yeah, I don't know, there was there 4006 03:30:31.959 --> 03:30:34.079 was something about it. It just didn't I mean, I 4007 03:30:34.159 --> 03:30:36.600 knew that Sean was going to win, you know, I 4008 03:30:36.680 --> 03:30:43.559 mean it was such a foregone conclusion, but it just 4009 03:30:43.639 --> 03:30:48.799 didn't feel real. Yeah, it felt like that whole those 4010 03:30:48.920 --> 03:30:51.920 those few weeks that he held the belt again, it 4011 03:30:52.079 --> 03:30:55.639 was just so like, Wow, Sean Michaels is champion again. 4012 03:30:56.680 --> 03:30:57.399 It's so weird. 4013 03:30:57.840 --> 03:31:04.200 Yeah, yeah, it's I don't know what all what allegory 4014 03:31:04.239 --> 03:31:10.760 to make what well, what the similar situation is. I 4015 03:31:10.799 --> 03:31:13.920 don't know, it's it's an analogy is tough because it's 4016 03:31:14.000 --> 03:31:17.399 like I'm trying to think of like in television, like 4017 03:31:18.319 --> 03:31:20.239 you know, after a show Cross that jumps the shark. 4018 03:31:20.280 --> 03:31:22.319 It's kind of hard not saying Sean jump the shark. 4019 03:31:22.399 --> 03:31:24.639 But it's like, really, you just want us to go 4020 03:31:24.799 --> 03:31:27.000 right back to feeling about Sean the way we felt 4021 03:31:27.040 --> 03:31:28.120 before Survivor series. 4022 03:31:28.719 --> 03:31:33.280 Right, and there was no you know, especially with Sean 4023 03:31:33.399 --> 03:31:37.200 because he he'd been playing that that tweener character. 4024 03:31:37.280 --> 03:31:39.159 Yeah, we we had an ambivalent feeling for a month 4025 03:31:39.239 --> 03:31:41.719 towards him in Bivlin feelings Brett hadn't turned fully heel 4026 03:31:41.760 --> 03:31:44.319 and yet he's he's he's trying to beat the shit 4027 03:31:44.319 --> 03:31:44.959 out of Brett Hart. 4028 03:31:45.000 --> 03:31:47.360 And yeah, you know, it was a weird. 4029 03:31:47.959 --> 03:31:49.959 There was a weird kind of like dissonance going on 4030 03:31:50.079 --> 03:31:52.559 with him because he still had to be the hometown 4031 03:31:52.639 --> 03:31:54.440 hero because the show was in San Antonio. If The 4032 03:31:54.520 --> 03:31:59.319 Road Rumble ninety seven was in fucking Indianapolis, I'm sure 4033 03:31:59.360 --> 03:32:02.520 we wouldn't have felt so weird about this title win 4034 03:32:02.600 --> 03:32:05.440 for Shawn Michaels. But he was making adjustments he felt 4035 03:32:05.479 --> 03:32:07.559 he had to make after Survivor series, all while heading 4036 03:32:07.600 --> 03:32:09.120 into a show where he had to be the Shawn 4037 03:32:09.159 --> 03:32:12.079 Michaels he was before those adjustments, and when he wins 4038 03:32:12.120 --> 03:32:13.600 the belt, it is kind of like, okay, where are 4039 03:32:13.600 --> 03:32:16.319 we going now? Like am I supposed to feel like 4040 03:32:16.399 --> 03:32:18.239 Sid is never going to get him? Try to get 4041 03:32:18.239 --> 03:32:18.799 the belt back? 4042 03:32:19.360 --> 03:32:19.520 You know? 4043 03:32:19.719 --> 03:32:19.879 Sid? 4044 03:32:20.040 --> 03:32:23.520 Just now an afterthought? Yeah, the matter was okay. He 4045 03:32:23.600 --> 03:32:25.840 was one of Sid's better ones, But again it falls 4046 03:32:25.879 --> 03:32:27.840 into that category. Even if you can think of big 4047 03:32:28.159 --> 03:32:31.360 studio stadium shows that Sid was on, it's like what 4048 03:32:31.600 --> 03:32:32.000 came of it? 4049 03:32:32.719 --> 03:32:33.000 You know what? 4050 03:32:33.879 --> 03:32:33.920 What? 4051 03:32:34.399 --> 03:32:36.840 What's the legacy? Do people look back on that show 4052 03:32:36.879 --> 03:32:39.559 and say, my god, did Sid rise to that occasion? No, 4053 03:32:39.719 --> 03:32:43.040 it was just like he was window dressing almost in. 4054 03:32:43.079 --> 03:32:45.239 A weird way. Though it does make me wonder, like 4055 03:32:45.319 --> 03:32:47.639 what the fucking I mean, granted they didn't know where 4056 03:32:47.639 --> 03:32:50.639 they were going, you know, there was so much change 4057 03:32:50.719 --> 03:32:52.200 going on, but part of me is like, I wish 4058 03:32:52.239 --> 03:32:57.319 they'd just let it, you know, let let Sid just 4059 03:32:57.399 --> 03:32:59.399 stay champion. I wonder what that have happened. I mean, 4060 03:32:59.680 --> 03:33:01.239 there were have been a lot of stuff that would 4061 03:33:01.319 --> 03:33:07.680 not have happened that were crucial right in regards to 4062 03:33:09.360 --> 03:33:11.920 really the future of the company. You know, like you 4063 03:33:11.920 --> 03:33:16.120 wouldn't have had the Brett Hart Sid moment that we're 4064 03:33:16.360 --> 03:33:18.440 highlighting here, yea, And. 4065 03:33:18.479 --> 03:33:19.799 It's it is it turned out to a great moment, 4066 03:33:19.840 --> 03:33:21.319 but really what it is, it's like if you're going 4067 03:33:21.399 --> 03:33:24.000 to pick a show that that that fits a SID 4068 03:33:24.079 --> 03:33:26.440 tribute and you'd already done Survivors series ninety six, this 4069 03:33:26.600 --> 03:33:29.079 is his other title, Wind makes sense right. 4070 03:33:29.280 --> 03:33:38.479 Right, But what I mean, it's it's like it's just 4071 03:33:40.399 --> 03:33:42.600 what I'm saying though, is is it's like, it's it's 4072 03:33:42.680 --> 03:33:46.600 just a you could I would have liked to have actually, 4073 03:33:46.680 --> 03:33:48.639 you know, given how it all played out and given 4074 03:33:49.399 --> 03:33:51.879 how weak it was that Shawn Michaels kind of wanted back. 4075 03:33:52.120 --> 03:33:54.000 It makes me think when I would have liked to 4076 03:33:54.120 --> 03:33:56.200 I wonder what it would have been like for Sid 4077 03:33:56.280 --> 03:34:00.840 to go from Survivor Series to WrestleManias Champion, but so 4078 03:34:01.040 --> 03:34:04.440 much would have been lost in that. I think we 4079 03:34:04.520 --> 03:34:06.159 already got a little flavor of what would have happened. 4080 03:34:06.200 --> 03:34:08.120 He would have just yeah, I mean, it would have sucked. 4081 03:34:08.159 --> 03:34:09.719 It would have sucked. I don't think he would have 4082 03:34:09.760 --> 03:34:12.879 gotten more exciting. I think, I mean, in a weird way, 4083 03:34:12.959 --> 03:34:16.760 it's like, why the fuck did he you know, like 4084 03:34:17.719 --> 03:34:20.239 why even give him the championship? Like why, I mean, 4085 03:34:20.280 --> 03:34:22.120 I know that Sean Miami. I guess it's like it's 4086 03:34:22.120 --> 03:34:25.239 a weird one of those things where you never really 4087 03:34:28.280 --> 03:34:34.200 you know, Sean wasn't doing great and you need to 4088 03:34:34.200 --> 03:34:36.000 get the belt off and to kind of, you know, 4089 03:34:36.159 --> 03:34:37.479 let him be refreshed. 4090 03:34:37.559 --> 03:34:39.600 But I think they really got the belt off him 4091 03:34:39.600 --> 03:34:41.920 because they wanted him to win the belt in San Antonio, 4092 03:34:42.040 --> 03:34:44.239 and it was like, yeah, whoever he crossed paths with 4093 03:34:44.280 --> 03:34:46.000 the Survivor Series was probably going to take it off 4094 03:34:46.040 --> 03:34:48.079 of him. That's what's always been my impression. 4095 03:34:48.600 --> 03:34:50.760 It's just like, but why, Like it just seems I mean, 4096 03:34:50.760 --> 03:34:53.360 I guess winning it back is a big deal, but 4097 03:34:53.879 --> 03:34:55.559 I don't know, it just seems weird. 4098 03:34:55.639 --> 03:34:57.680 Yeah, yeah it didn't. They didn't account before in that 4099 03:34:57.799 --> 03:35:00.000 planning that the person who beat Sean at Survivors Series 4100 03:35:00.000 --> 03:35:02.239 he would end up capturing the narrative, you know, and 4101 03:35:02.360 --> 03:35:05.000 being the talking point. It was a bigger deal that 4102 03:35:05.040 --> 03:35:07.000 Sid won the belt than Sean lost the belt, and 4103 03:35:07.079 --> 03:35:09.200 I don't think they count counted on that at all. 4104 03:35:10.239 --> 03:35:11.280 It'd be like Hulk. 4105 03:35:11.159 --> 03:35:12.719 Losing the belt to Warrior. Yeah, it was a big 4106 03:35:12.760 --> 03:35:14.559 deal Warrior won the belt, but it was clearly a 4107 03:35:14.639 --> 03:35:17.879 bigger deal that Hogan lost the belt, especially in retrospect. 4108 03:35:17.959 --> 03:35:21.840 This was not the case for Survivor Series. So during 4109 03:35:21.879 --> 03:35:23.719 the course of the match, in the Almo dumb Sean 4110 03:35:23.959 --> 03:35:25.799 hits Sid with a camera, a television camera to get 4111 03:35:25.840 --> 03:35:27.920 revenge on that front and hit some of the chin music, 4112 03:35:28.120 --> 03:35:29.639 and you know, they do the whole thing. The kid 4113 03:35:29.799 --> 03:35:32.000 came home and he won the WBF title with mom 4114 03:35:32.040 --> 03:35:33.680 and dad in the front row, et cetera. The next 4115 03:35:33.760 --> 03:35:36.120 night on Raw, Brett's out complaining again because remember he 4116 03:35:36.120 --> 03:35:39.159 got screwed out of the Rumble match itself when Steve 4117 03:35:39.200 --> 03:35:40.760 Boston was kind of hiding out and threw him out 4118 03:35:40.760 --> 03:35:43.200 at the ends. So he's complaining about everything to Vince 4119 03:35:43.239 --> 03:35:45.760 McMahon at ringside and Sean about how Sean being on 4120 03:35:45.840 --> 03:35:47.719 commentary at its time when he had a title shot 4121 03:35:47.719 --> 03:35:50.639 against Sid was a problem and getting a chance at 4122 03:35:50.639 --> 03:35:52.719 the Brumble and he won, but then Stone cold screwed 4123 03:35:52.799 --> 03:35:55.079 him and the people were with him, and then he quits, 4124 03:35:55.159 --> 03:35:57.479 and he quits in Vince's face right here on Raw 4125 03:35:57.520 --> 03:36:00.239 the night after Royal Rumble, and Vince's you know, he's 4126 03:36:00.239 --> 03:36:02.840 out there as the company owner, not just the announcer man. 4127 03:36:03.280 --> 03:36:06.079 I thought it was legit. Do you really remember this? Yeah, yep, 4128 03:36:06.239 --> 03:36:06.959 I thought it was legit. 4129 03:36:07.159 --> 03:36:07.360 I was. 4130 03:36:07.680 --> 03:36:09.920 And again, you know, I was so paranoid at this point, 4131 03:36:09.959 --> 03:36:13.600 Oh yeah, of WSW getting all these guys, and so 4132 03:36:13.840 --> 03:36:17.440 was Vince. I was like, right right, and it just freaked. 4133 03:36:17.200 --> 03:36:19.280 Me as paranoid because he knew you as a lifelong 4134 03:36:19.399 --> 03:36:22.639 WWF fanly paranoid out there. And so he's looking nervous, 4135 03:36:22.719 --> 03:36:24.719 and Vince is like, Brett, don't do this, like under 4136 03:36:24.760 --> 03:36:27.399 his breath, as if like he's like shooting with the guy. 4137 03:36:27.840 --> 03:36:30.120 And then Gorilla non Soon, who is still WWF president, 4138 03:36:30.200 --> 03:36:31.959 makes the fatal four way man event for the February 4139 03:36:32.000 --> 03:36:34.719 pay per view, and Brett returns, he doesn't quit. He 4140 03:36:34.799 --> 03:36:36.559 comes back on that episode of Raw to attack Stone 4141 03:36:36.600 --> 03:36:38.159 Cold Steve Austin to hand him a little taste of 4142 03:36:38.200 --> 03:36:41.920 his own medicine blindside Attack, and then they this is 4143 03:36:41.920 --> 03:36:44.399 where they announced that coming up on this special Thursday, 4144 03:36:44.520 --> 03:36:47.680 Raw Thursday, it's going to be Shawn Michaels versus Sid 4145 03:36:47.799 --> 03:36:50.479 the rubber match for the WWF Championship. And to hear 4146 03:36:50.559 --> 03:36:52.600 Sid put it, as we heard in the shoot interview excerpt, 4147 03:36:52.680 --> 03:36:54.280 he was to win the belt back on Thursday Raw 4148 03:36:54.360 --> 03:36:58.479 Thursday from Seawn. And you have Sean saying you know what, Yes, Sid, 4149 03:36:58.879 --> 03:37:00.440 he gave me a shot after I lost to you. 4150 03:37:00.559 --> 03:37:02.239 It's only fair I give you a shot after I 4151 03:37:02.360 --> 03:37:05.680 beat you. And then suddenly Undertaker speaks up and he 4152 03:37:05.719 --> 03:37:07.600 starts saying it's time that that title goes to the 4153 03:37:07.680 --> 03:37:10.639 dark side, and he says I will now be the Hunter. 4154 03:37:11.360 --> 03:37:15.040 So I feel like the night after Royal Rumble, it's 4155 03:37:15.040 --> 03:37:17.799 now clear what WrestleMania thirteen is going to be. Yeah, 4156 03:37:17.879 --> 03:37:21.360 and this is even before Sean tweaks his knee. I 4157 03:37:21.399 --> 03:37:24.559 think they shifted from Shawn Brett for the title, SID 4158 03:37:24.719 --> 03:37:28.399 Undertaker non title to sid Taker title. Sean Brett non title. 4159 03:37:28.799 --> 03:37:31.319 That's what it seems like to me, because Steve Austin 4160 03:37:31.559 --> 03:37:34.319 is still not on track to wrestle Brett, even though 4161 03:37:34.319 --> 03:37:36.920 they're still beating the shit out of each other, He's 4162 03:37:37.000 --> 03:37:39.440 interacting with Bulldog in such a way that it becomes 4163 03:37:39.479 --> 03:37:41.680 clear that that's going to be the match. So here 4164 03:37:41.799 --> 03:37:44.680 is Sid's promo before that, faithful as it turned out. 4165 03:37:44.719 --> 03:37:48.040 Thursday Raw, Thursday broadcast. This is on February third, nineteen 4166 03:37:48.120 --> 03:37:51.520 ninety seven. And what's significant about this edition of Monday 4167 03:37:51.600 --> 03:37:54.200 Night Roboss. It is the first two hour Raw. 4168 03:37:55.200 --> 03:38:11.639 Yes, give me the laps fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling 4169 03:38:11.760 --> 03:38:15.239 podcast that knows the boys need their candy. It's the 4170 03:38:15.399 --> 03:38:33.760 Lapsed Fan. He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack 4171 03:38:33.840 --> 03:38:36.079 and Carnacio and JP Sorrow. 4172 03:38:36.479 --> 03:38:39.479 So again, Sid is in the crosshairs of all these 4173 03:38:39.559 --> 03:38:42.159 changes that they're making and all these adjustments that they're 4174 03:38:42.200 --> 03:38:45.200 making to their presentation, trying to catch up to w CW. 4175 03:38:45.360 --> 03:38:47.959 And here's what Sid said on that first two hour Raw. 4176 03:38:51.000 --> 03:38:54.159 Psycho Sid, I'm gonna ask you a question about the 4177 03:38:54.360 --> 03:38:58.959 WWF canda before we do it. All started the Survivor series. 4178 03:39:00.079 --> 03:39:02.799 You walked into Madison Square Garden and you became. 4179 03:39:03.000 --> 03:39:05.760 The World Wrestling Federation Champion. And then in less than 4180 03:39:05.840 --> 03:39:08.079 thirty days you went to West. 4181 03:39:07.920 --> 03:39:10.600 Palm Beach, Florida, and you beat a legend and breadth 4182 03:39:10.680 --> 03:39:13.680 they hit man Heart, but it all ended for you 4183 03:39:14.680 --> 03:39:15.879 at the Royal Rumble. 4184 03:39:16.399 --> 03:39:19.520 Fate is a funny game. 4185 03:39:20.479 --> 03:39:22.440 So what I want to ask you right now in 4186 03:39:22.639 --> 03:39:26.280 your gut, in your gut, said, what do you feel? 4187 03:39:26.360 --> 03:39:28.319 What do you really feel personally. 4188 03:39:28.440 --> 03:39:31.479 About the WWF champion? Sean Michaels. 4189 03:39:37.159 --> 03:39:42.159 See, I've heard Shot say it himself. The relationship then 4190 03:39:42.200 --> 03:39:45.239 that I have, it's a weird one. 4191 03:39:46.000 --> 03:39:47.120 They can roller. 4192 03:39:46.920 --> 03:39:52.120 Coaster up and down listally, physically and emotionally. 4193 03:39:52.959 --> 03:39:55.959 You can say it's a friendship. 4194 03:39:56.440 --> 03:39:59.159 Baby on the edge of madness. 4195 03:40:01.239 --> 03:40:01.879 We'll say that. 4196 03:40:02.079 --> 03:40:05.440 I feel safe to say that. Even Shine Michaels will 4197 03:40:05.520 --> 03:40:13.879 agree that evil is just that it is evil. 4198 03:40:14.840 --> 03:40:18.159 That's sometimes we mistaken it for happiness. 4199 03:40:19.479 --> 03:40:20.879 Maybe in my case. 4200 03:40:22.479 --> 03:40:27.280 Evil showed up its survivor serious. 4201 03:40:29.520 --> 03:40:34.000 In the your case, Shine Michaels, maybe evil showed up 4202 03:40:34.879 --> 03:40:36.000 at the roll Rumble. 4203 03:40:38.000 --> 03:40:41.840 But when this roller coast, the ride is overshone. 4204 03:40:42.639 --> 03:40:44.959 When it is over, it has time up and that 4205 03:40:45.079 --> 03:40:48.520 has come down and the rod comes to a halt. 4206 03:40:50.239 --> 03:40:51.399 In the smoke. 4207 03:40:51.200 --> 03:40:58.520 Clears, I won't be standing the man. I won't be 4208 03:40:58.639 --> 03:40:59.680 standing a man. 4209 03:41:01.120 --> 03:41:02.280 In the Master. 4210 03:41:03.520 --> 03:41:17.760 In the rule. Oh my goodness on Royal. 4211 03:41:18.520 --> 03:41:20.959 In twenty seconds, ladies and gentlemen, we will speak with 4212 03:41:21.040 --> 03:41:23.159 the tag team champions Bullog again. 4213 03:41:23.319 --> 03:41:28.440 Oh so that's the last promo he does before Thursday, 4214 03:41:28.520 --> 03:41:32.120 Raw Thursday. And you would think that, you know, it's 4215 03:41:32.120 --> 03:41:34.440 always a question to me, like when was it clear 4216 03:41:34.559 --> 03:41:37.000 that this was off the rails? When was it clear 4217 03:41:37.079 --> 03:41:39.159 that it wasn't to be Sean versus Sin on the show, 4218 03:41:39.200 --> 03:41:42.040 and that Sean fact only wouldn't wrestle on Thursday, Raw Thursday, 4219 03:41:42.040 --> 03:41:45.200 but relinquish the title well as of the Superstars in 4220 03:41:45.239 --> 03:41:45.719 the morning of. 4221 03:41:45.840 --> 03:41:46.680 And this is not live. 4222 03:41:46.799 --> 03:41:49.280 This is in the can so you can't read too 4223 03:41:49.360 --> 03:41:51.000 much into it. But they didn't take the time to 4224 03:41:51.159 --> 03:41:54.000 edit it out, which says, I guess something in its 4225 03:41:54.040 --> 03:42:00.000 own way. Shawn Michaels is on Superstars the week before Thursday, 4226 03:42:00.000 --> 03:42:04.239 a Raw Thursday, and has this to say about Sid 4227 03:42:04.440 --> 03:42:06.719 and Man. Everything just seems on the rails this. 4228 03:42:07.000 --> 03:42:13.040 Thursday Live at Thursday Raw Thursday, you are gonna have 4229 03:42:13.200 --> 03:42:17.639 an awesome challenge when you defend your World Wrestling Federation 4230 03:42:17.959 --> 03:42:22.639 title against the man you wanted from Psycho Sid. 4231 03:42:24.319 --> 03:42:27.639 Well, you know something, Psycho sid. 4232 03:42:29.200 --> 03:42:34.120 Was man enough to give Seawn Michaels a rematch after 4233 03:42:34.280 --> 03:42:35.360 Survivor Series. 4234 03:42:35.920 --> 03:42:38.479 So Sid, I'm gonna. 4235 03:42:38.239 --> 03:42:41.920 Turn around and do you the same favor you did. 4236 03:42:41.959 --> 03:42:47.360 Me, because Sid, there are four other guys here in 4237 03:42:47.479 --> 03:42:52.559 the World Wrestling Federation that are just aching to get 4238 03:42:52.639 --> 03:42:59.760 a shot at this belt. The World Wrestling Federation Championship 4239 03:43:00.159 --> 03:43:05.440 as of late, has brought out the Monster and all 4240 03:43:05.559 --> 03:43:12.959 the superstars of the World Wrestling Federation were show and 4241 03:43:13.120 --> 03:43:19.520 he's ever been. It's made Stone Cold, much colder than 4242 03:43:19.559 --> 03:43:25.760 he ever thought he could have been. It's named Vader, Well, 4243 03:43:26.280 --> 03:43:30.879 it's Nde Vader Vader and now the man from the 4244 03:43:31.040 --> 03:43:35.440 Dark Side feels like he has gotten the shaft one 4245 03:43:35.600 --> 03:43:39.399 too many times, and the Undertaker now wants a shot 4246 03:43:39.840 --> 03:43:44.239 at the World Wrestling Fedation Championship. And then, of course 4247 03:43:45.079 --> 03:43:48.760 there is a hit man, Brett Hart, who, even though 4248 03:43:49.520 --> 03:43:54.040 he quits on lot of TV, complains online TV, makes 4249 03:43:54.159 --> 03:43:58.040 excuses on TV, does not want to be referred to 4250 03:43:58.719 --> 03:43:59.920 as any of those things. 4251 03:44:00.399 --> 03:44:04.040 So I won't do it. But regardless of what Prett. 4252 03:44:03.959 --> 03:44:07.399 Says he wants to be the World Wrestling Federation Champion 4253 03:44:07.799 --> 03:44:13.600 more than anything. I said, the question is who will 4254 03:44:13.680 --> 03:44:16.760 go to WrestleMania to defend that title. 4255 03:44:17.399 --> 03:44:20.319 Will it be you or will it be me? 4256 03:44:22.760 --> 03:44:24.680 And on Thursday, Rob. 4257 03:44:24.799 --> 03:44:30.799 Thursday said, the entire world on WA thirteen is gonna 4258 03:44:30.879 --> 03:44:34.920 find out who the man is in the World Wrestling 4259 03:44:35.000 --> 03:44:39.559 Federation and who the man is that will go to WrestleMania. 4260 03:44:41.239 --> 03:44:44.719 And I want sid, I want the fans to the 4261 03:44:44.799 --> 03:44:50.120 World Wrestling Federation, and I want those four superstars, and 4262 03:44:50.280 --> 03:44:54.639 I want the entire world to know that there's been 4263 03:44:54.879 --> 03:45:01.959 one thing synonymous with WrestleMania and the ma I WrestleMania 4264 03:45:02.440 --> 03:45:03.559 over the last. 4265 03:45:03.360 --> 03:45:07.360 Few years, and it's called not So the year. 4266 03:45:07.440 --> 03:45:14.440 Candidate Heartbreak Kid Sewn michaels So said Cresh just short 4267 03:45:14.920 --> 03:45:21.079 on Thursday, Wrong Thursday, you will get another chance at 4268 03:45:21.159 --> 03:45:28.120 the World Wrestling Federation Championship. Shawn Michael's the Heartbreak Kid 4269 03:45:29.079 --> 03:45:38.040 will be until he deems differently the World Wrestling Federation Champion. 4270 03:45:38.479 --> 03:45:44.719 Yeah, until he deems differently. Indeed, I would love to 4271 03:45:44.799 --> 03:45:47.000 know what the finish was originally supposed to be between 4272 03:45:47.040 --> 03:45:51.280 Shawn and said on this show, sitting here realizing I 4273 03:45:51.360 --> 03:45:54.280 don't know that. I know Sid was supposed to win 4274 03:45:54.360 --> 03:45:56.959 it back, according to Sid, But how was Brett to 4275 03:45:57.000 --> 03:45:58.879 interfere with Sean just going to go in there and 4276 03:45:58.959 --> 03:46:00.360 lose it clean? I said, how doubt it? 4277 03:46:00.719 --> 03:46:03.040 Sid was going to win it back anyway, That's what 4278 03:46:03.120 --> 03:46:06.120 Sid said. It's very fucking It's very strange. 4279 03:46:07.120 --> 03:46:07.319 Yeah. 4280 03:46:07.479 --> 03:46:09.719 Yeah, it's almost like Sean agreed to it knowing it 4281 03:46:09.760 --> 03:46:12.879 wouldn't ever ever get there. Yeah, it seems kind of bogus. 4282 03:46:13.440 --> 03:46:15.600 But you know, all of that promo work they did, 4283 03:46:15.680 --> 03:46:17.559 and the first thing you see when you tune into 4284 03:46:17.600 --> 03:46:19.840 that Thursday Raw Thursday is Shawn is going to forfeit 4285 03:46:19.879 --> 03:46:22.840 the belt. They make the announcement, It's like what and 4286 03:46:22.959 --> 03:46:25.239 he comes out and he starts talking about, Yeah. 4287 03:46:25.120 --> 03:46:27.000 What did you think when that happened? I was because 4288 03:46:27.040 --> 03:46:28.479 like I didn't again, I didn't know. 4289 03:46:28.840 --> 03:46:30.399 I mean, I was willing to believe that he had 4290 03:46:30.440 --> 03:46:32.959 a knee injury, you know, I was willing to believe 4291 03:46:33.000 --> 03:46:34.959 that just because he was so hard felt in the promo. 4292 03:46:35.040 --> 03:46:37.000 It was like, yeah, this guy does not want to 4293 03:46:37.040 --> 03:46:38.959 relinquish the belt right now. This is the worst possible 4294 03:46:39.000 --> 03:46:40.639 time for an injury. Like this and that does happen, 4295 03:46:41.399 --> 03:46:43.799 and he was limping like hell. It was only in 4296 03:46:43.879 --> 03:46:47.719 retrospect that you had the cynicism because he never got surgery, 4297 03:46:47.879 --> 03:46:50.680 although he's a serious surgery. And then when he comes back, 4298 03:46:50.840 --> 03:46:53.719 like in June, he's backflipping all over the place. I 4299 03:46:53.840 --> 03:46:56.719 remember remember that that raw where he wins tag titles 4300 03:46:56.760 --> 03:46:58.639 with with Stone Cold. He comes back, has like a 4301 03:46:58.719 --> 03:47:01.680 five star magic and Stone and he's like doing all 4302 03:47:01.719 --> 03:47:03.639 these things to almost rub it in people's face that 4303 03:47:03.719 --> 03:47:05.360 his knee was never really hurt. 4304 03:47:05.440 --> 03:47:08.680 That was always my impression of it. Maybe, but it's 4305 03:47:08.760 --> 03:47:11.639 just so weird, like I can imagine it's just a 4306 03:47:11.719 --> 03:47:13.799 shocking thing that all of a sudden, Yeah, it seemed 4307 03:47:13.840 --> 03:47:17.600 really sad. I bought into it for sure, because I 4308 03:47:17.760 --> 03:47:20.440 just everything happen, like I said, everything happened to me, 4309 03:47:20.520 --> 03:47:24.479 and such a such a a a it was such 4310 03:47:24.479 --> 03:47:28.120 a big so much happened in so little time that 4311 03:47:28.200 --> 03:47:31.239 I didn't really have a chance to process what it 4312 03:47:31.440 --> 03:47:35.719 was like to experience that, like Sean Michael's just relinquishing 4313 03:47:35.760 --> 03:47:36.600 the bell out of nowhere. 4314 03:47:36.879 --> 03:47:39.840 It definitely it didn't I don't remember. And I was 4315 03:47:39.879 --> 03:47:42.559 somewhat plugged into like online gossip about wrestling at that time, 4316 03:47:43.559 --> 03:47:45.200 but it didn't really register with me as all, this 4317 03:47:45.239 --> 03:47:47.879 guy doesn't want to drop the strap. It didn't because 4318 03:47:47.879 --> 03:47:50.200 I didn't really have the context of knowing that they 4319 03:47:50.239 --> 03:47:52.000 were going to go with Shawn and bretton the rematch 4320 03:47:52.040 --> 03:47:55.159 at WrestleMania. It hadn't been made as apparent as I 4321 03:47:55.200 --> 03:47:58.639 think people thought without reading the sheets, so it was like, Okay, 4322 03:48:00.079 --> 03:48:03.239 this is this is a horrible turn of events. I 4323 03:48:03.319 --> 03:48:07.440 don't even remember really going into that Thursday Raw Thursday 4324 03:48:08.799 --> 03:48:10.959 having it really sunk in that he was going to 4325 03:48:11.000 --> 03:48:13.559 defend the belt against sid on the show. Yeah, I 4326 03:48:13.639 --> 03:48:15.639 remember even feeling like that was a key feature of it, 4327 03:48:16.879 --> 03:48:18.639 but it was because they wanted to draw rating on 4328 03:48:18.680 --> 03:48:20.319 an off night, and putting a title match of that 4329 03:48:20.440 --> 03:48:22.879 caliber on there would probably be the best they could 4330 03:48:22.920 --> 03:48:25.719 do to get that. And for sure he comes out, 4331 03:48:25.799 --> 03:48:28.360 he starts talking about being told he can't wrestle again maybe, 4332 03:48:28.879 --> 03:48:31.399 and they're chanting, we want sid in Lowell. They're jenning 4333 03:48:31.440 --> 03:48:35.120 we want sid at the guy Jesus, And this is 4334 03:48:35.159 --> 03:48:37.600 where a Grilla Monsoon announces that the final four winner 4335 03:48:37.600 --> 03:48:39.680 at the pay per view will be ww champion. As 4336 03:48:39.719 --> 03:48:42.479 a matter of fact, and what does this leave Sid? 4337 03:48:42.559 --> 03:48:45.680 They ask, He'll get his chance Monday in Nashville, as 4338 03:48:45.719 --> 03:48:48.120 they announced that Sid, in fact, we'll be wrestling the 4339 03:48:48.159 --> 03:48:50.719 winner of the final four match for the championship on 4340 03:48:50.799 --> 03:48:55.440 the February seventeenth raw. As for the third mass, absolutely so. 4341 03:48:55.559 --> 03:48:57.520 Sean does the whole heartfelt speech, leaves the belt in 4342 03:48:57.559 --> 03:48:59.440 the ring with Vince and says I'm going to go 4343 03:48:59.479 --> 03:49:02.000 home now. And somewhere along the way, I lost my 4344 03:49:02.120 --> 03:49:04.399 smile with the stubble and the tears and he looks 4345 03:49:04.440 --> 03:49:07.079 like he hasn't slept and all that, and the main 4346 03:49:07.079 --> 03:49:09.239 event of Thursday rought Thursday's mentioned with Stone Cold Steve 4347 03:49:09.280 --> 03:49:12.159 Austin versus Sid, and Austin is rabid and they're chanting 4348 03:49:12.239 --> 03:49:14.399 for Austin. You want some of the earliest kind of 4349 03:49:15.200 --> 03:49:18.159 green shoots. Yeah, I'm sure the fans too are kind 4350 03:49:18.200 --> 03:49:20.559 of like throwing up their hands like fuck, Like we 4351 03:49:20.600 --> 03:49:22.399 were supposed to invest in Sean, We're supposed to invest 4352 03:49:22.399 --> 03:49:25.840 in Sid. Look what's going on here? Austin's consistent. You know, 4353 03:49:26.040 --> 03:49:28.479 Austin keeps showing up, kicking ass. Austin keeps showing up 4354 03:49:28.479 --> 03:49:31.399 to an awesome shit on television. Well, we're with this guy. 4355 03:49:31.600 --> 03:49:34.120 You know, if we don't know who to get behind, 4356 03:49:34.159 --> 03:49:37.399 because shit is so impermanent, let's go with him. So 4357 03:49:37.520 --> 03:49:39.239 he's out there, they're chanting for him, and Brett hits 4358 03:49:39.239 --> 03:49:41.680 the ring and attacks Austin. And now it's very clear, 4359 03:49:41.760 --> 03:49:44.200 I think, on the night where they have to grapple 4360 03:49:44.280 --> 03:49:46.000 with the fact that Sean is going to relinquish the 4361 03:49:46.040 --> 03:49:49.000 belt and not wrestle at WrestleMania at all, it seems 4362 03:49:49.040 --> 03:49:51.319 like they immediately kick it into a higher gear between 4363 03:49:51.399 --> 03:49:54.399 Brett and Steve Austin, and the decision is clearly now made, 4364 03:49:54.399 --> 03:49:56.840 at least in my mind, that that's going to be 4365 03:49:56.920 --> 03:50:00.680 a feature traction match at WrestleMania. Yeah, Breton Sid also 4366 03:50:00.760 --> 03:50:02.440 tussle a bit because you got to keep the heat 4367 03:50:02.479 --> 03:50:04.799 between those two because you know, the night after Final 4368 03:50:04.840 --> 03:50:06.760 four it's going to be Breton Sid for the championship. 4369 03:50:07.040 --> 03:50:08.639 So the Final four pay per view comes and we 4370 03:50:08.879 --> 03:50:10.360 of course have done it in the archives. Is part 4371 03:50:10.399 --> 03:50:12.920 of the nineteen ninety seven journey, and Sid was in 4372 03:50:13.000 --> 03:50:14.920 fact on hand, even though he didn't wrestle on the show, 4373 03:50:15.280 --> 03:50:17.760 but as telegraph there it's been told to the fans 4374 03:50:17.760 --> 03:50:19.840 and everybody that Sid's going to face the winner. And 4375 03:50:19.920 --> 03:50:22.319 here's some remarks Sid himself had to make at Final 4376 03:50:22.399 --> 03:50:23.440 four in your house. 4377 03:50:24.840 --> 03:50:27.239 Stee Boston, the undertaker of the man they call Vader, 4378 03:50:27.680 --> 03:50:30.000 whoever wins, knows that tomorrow night they have to go 4379 03:50:30.159 --> 03:50:32.879 right in and on Monday night, Raw face this man. 4380 03:50:33.200 --> 03:50:35.520 He looks like he's ready to go right now, Psycho 4381 03:50:35.639 --> 03:50:37.760 Sid a little bit more than twenty four hours away. 4382 03:50:37.799 --> 03:50:38.840 That's not too much time. 4383 03:50:39.000 --> 03:50:39.280 Time. 4384 03:50:40.159 --> 03:50:41.920 Time is the one I did not want to air. 4385 03:50:42.520 --> 03:50:44.959 See time way out for you, Seawn Michaels. 4386 03:50:45.280 --> 03:50:47.920 And yes I am sad for you, but I did 4387 03:50:47.959 --> 03:50:51.120 not get my SAIDs they get my belt back on 4388 03:50:51.360 --> 03:50:52.079 Thursday nights. 4389 03:50:52.680 --> 03:50:55.200 You see time, Sometimes it turns out to be funny. 4390 03:50:55.520 --> 03:50:58.719 This time it's a regular old it's something different. 4391 03:50:59.000 --> 03:51:01.120 So my time will come. Want to beginning? 4392 03:51:01.120 --> 03:51:03.120 You ot a new time for Monday night. 4393 03:51:03.239 --> 03:51:05.079 Row excuse me what. 4394 03:51:07.520 --> 03:51:10.440 He'll be paid by the winner of the Final four? 4395 03:51:10.879 --> 03:51:13.760 You have to make demand? Yeah, and then it is time. 4396 03:51:15.799 --> 03:51:19.719 It is time to give me back what is mine? 4397 03:51:23.760 --> 03:51:26.079 I am a master in the. 4398 03:51:31.399 --> 03:51:34.920 New time he's referring to. Is they move Raw back? Yeah? 4399 03:51:35.000 --> 03:51:38.879 I guess. But what the fuck man like he's he 4400 03:51:39.280 --> 03:51:40.559 he just I don't. 4401 03:51:43.680 --> 03:51:43.719 I. 4402 03:51:44.120 --> 03:51:48.440 I mean, he definitely sounds psycholo. 4403 03:51:47.920 --> 03:51:50.239 That now, But when he comes to that line again, 4404 03:51:50.280 --> 03:51:52.280 it's like, oh my god, he's that's all he's got. 4405 03:51:52.520 --> 03:51:53.319 He's doing the Master and. 4406 03:51:55.280 --> 03:51:58.280 He just doesn't know how to fucking say a cohesive sentence. 4407 03:51:58.360 --> 03:51:58.559 That was. 4408 03:51:58.719 --> 03:52:01.079 That was one of the worst ones, as it was 4409 03:52:01.120 --> 03:52:03.559 clear that he got direction to try to draw attention 4410 03:52:03.639 --> 03:52:05.639 to the fact that ra'z going to move to nine 4411 03:52:05.639 --> 03:52:07.040 to eleven if he had to head for two hours 4412 03:52:07.079 --> 03:52:09.760 with Nitro instead of seeding that ten to eleven to them. 4413 03:52:10.520 --> 03:52:14.920 But so bizarre Brett Win's the fatal four way clotheslining 4414 03:52:15.239 --> 03:52:17.319 Undertaker out or was it Austin I don't remember. 4415 03:52:17.120 --> 03:52:20.159 Now it was Undertake here. Austin was out early. It 4416 03:52:20.200 --> 03:52:21.479 did a match where he was the first. He was 4417 03:52:21.520 --> 03:52:22.799 the first one out, first one out right. 4418 03:52:22.840 --> 03:52:25.079 It was elimination style and over the top to the 4419 03:52:25.120 --> 03:52:27.200 floor counted like a rumble for god knows what reason. 4420 03:52:27.799 --> 03:52:30.399 Well, remember it wasn't just elimination style. It had a 4421 03:52:30.479 --> 03:52:31.040 number of things. 4422 03:52:31.079 --> 03:52:31.239 It was. 4423 03:52:31.520 --> 03:52:34.399 It was you could either win by tossing somebody over 4424 03:52:34.440 --> 03:52:38.600 the top or pin or make them submit, and nobody 4425 03:52:38.680 --> 03:52:41.520 did the pinner submit. It was just over the top rope. 4426 03:52:41.559 --> 03:52:45.559 It was such a weird like it was very reminiscent 4427 03:52:45.639 --> 03:52:48.799 of those of the of the Rumbles of No Mercy. Yes, 4428 03:52:49.879 --> 03:52:53.719 you know where you could have the different the winning 4429 03:52:54.799 --> 03:52:59.239 you know, or elimination combinations, but they never did any 4430 03:52:59.239 --> 03:53:04.639 of them except for over the top rope, Yeah, which 4431 03:53:04.760 --> 03:53:05.639 I just don't understand. 4432 03:53:05.639 --> 03:53:07.879 That's if they re ran the Royal Rumble almost with 4433 03:53:08.000 --> 03:53:11.440 just four guys. And so, of course Brett wins the 4434 03:53:11.520 --> 03:53:14.600 championship here on the show, and Sid comes out at 4435 03:53:14.639 --> 03:53:17.159 the end to confront him, setting up Nashville the next 4436 03:53:17.280 --> 03:53:20.440 night Live on Monday Night Raw, February seventeenth, nineteen ninety seven. 4437 03:53:20.719 --> 03:53:23.000 That'll be the subject of our deep dive here next time. 4438 03:53:23.559 --> 03:53:26.440 And with that on the horizon, we're just going to 4439 03:53:26.639 --> 03:53:29.159 quickly tie it up with a bow. What happens after 4440 03:53:30.280 --> 03:53:33.719 that Raw as regards Sid and what becomes of the 4441 03:53:33.920 --> 03:53:36.079 WWF title reign that begins the second one. The night 4442 03:53:36.159 --> 03:53:40.559 after Final four, they go out to Berlin. This is 4443 03:53:40.600 --> 03:53:42.920 the last edition of Raw that's not called Raw is War, 4444 03:53:43.200 --> 03:53:45.600 and they tape television out there, including the European Tournament 4445 03:53:45.639 --> 03:53:48.200 final where Davey Burl wins the belt from Owen to 4446 03:53:48.200 --> 03:53:50.280 become the first European champion, and also on that show 4447 03:53:50.319 --> 03:53:55.520 in Berlin, Sid as champion versus Mankind. That's pretty much 4448 03:53:55.559 --> 03:53:57.920 the only time I think Sid worked mcfoley on television 4449 03:53:57.959 --> 03:54:01.600 as champion. You're right, and here's what he has to say. 4450 03:54:02.120 --> 03:54:04.639 I'm pretty much like, I don't know. It kind of 4451 03:54:04.680 --> 03:54:06.719 feels like the only Raw where he was championed again 4452 03:54:06.840 --> 03:54:08.879 before losing it, Undertaker, it really wasn't. But here's what 4453 03:54:08.959 --> 03:54:11.120 he has to say on that on that Berlin edition 4454 03:54:11.159 --> 03:54:13.040 of Raw before Raw well becomes War. 4455 03:54:14.760 --> 03:54:17.000 Any other surprises you think man Kind's going offer. 4456 03:54:17.360 --> 03:54:20.680 Listen to me, Mankind, I can hear you lost up. 4457 03:54:20.799 --> 03:54:22.239 All your German language. 4458 03:54:23.479 --> 03:54:26.399 But what you should have done, you should have gotten 4459 03:54:26.479 --> 03:54:27.639 ready for the game. 4460 03:54:28.120 --> 03:54:31.680 Because the game we play is simple to manor. 4461 03:54:34.600 --> 03:54:34.879 Playing. 4462 03:54:35.159 --> 03:54:37.479 I am the master, and you have to find out 4463 03:54:37.680 --> 03:54:42.120 the hard way, because then you come another symbol. 4464 03:54:42.000 --> 03:54:45.319 Of one of my many victories to WrestleMania. 4465 03:54:45.079 --> 03:54:49.079 Do you, Undertaker, to the dark side, to the drug side? 4466 03:54:49.120 --> 03:54:54.639 I go, and you what would come? Another police side 4467 03:54:55.440 --> 03:54:59.399 of my victories? Because I am a man, I am 4468 03:54:59.479 --> 03:55:05.040 the master. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I. 4469 03:55:05.280 --> 03:55:07.959 To take it vers of Psycho sit So many but man. 4470 03:55:07.879 --> 03:55:10.680 God, last time we'd hear that raw music right there, 4471 03:55:11.520 --> 03:55:12.959 that's trus track. That's true. 4472 03:55:13.000 --> 03:55:15.280 And Vince Call, said one of the great WWF champions, 4473 03:55:15.319 --> 03:55:17.000 on his walk to the ring to face mankind on 4474 03:55:17.079 --> 03:55:19.520 this edition of Monday Night Raw. The next week, Raw 4475 03:55:19.639 --> 03:55:22.440 is indeed War. They set up a new stage with 4476 03:55:22.600 --> 03:55:26.319 a graded kind of rampway and a huge ass Titan Tron. 4477 03:55:26.600 --> 03:55:28.600 They don't switch out the aprons though. The aprons are 4478 03:55:28.600 --> 03:55:32.120 still that original blue with the white stencil WWF logo 4479 03:55:32.239 --> 03:55:34.440 on it. Yeah, and they haven't transitioned yet to the 4480 03:55:34.479 --> 03:55:37.920 Attitude Scratch logo. There's still the yellow kid friendly logo 4481 03:55:38.000 --> 03:55:39.600 on the lower left. But the show is starting to 4482 03:55:39.639 --> 03:55:43.360 look a little more intense. And yes, you remember the 4483 03:55:43.399 --> 03:55:46.360 original Ra's War opening that they filmed with the explosions 4484 03:55:46.399 --> 03:55:47.559 inside that fact, Oh. 4485 03:55:47.520 --> 03:55:47.879 I love it. 4486 03:55:48.000 --> 03:55:50.719 And they fucking they're fighting on the roof of Titan Towers. 4487 03:55:50.760 --> 03:55:54.799 The roof of Titan Towers was the ninety five one, 4488 03:55:55.000 --> 03:55:57.000 but I'm not sure this This was more like a factory. 4489 03:55:57.040 --> 03:55:59.079 It kind of it pans down into like. 4490 03:55:59.600 --> 03:56:01.639 They did both. Let don't have that one in two. No, 4491 03:56:01.799 --> 03:56:04.639 I guess maybe you're a different one. But it's funny. Yeah, 4492 03:56:04.639 --> 03:56:07.719 I mean it's all like it's all fucking metal, uh, 4493 03:56:08.559 --> 03:56:13.239 you know, fucking steel cans exploding and shit and barrels, barrels. 4494 03:56:13.799 --> 03:56:16.280 It's like the ones like les encampments would have fires 4495 03:56:16.280 --> 03:56:19.239 in and stuff. Right right, you have these huge doors 4496 03:56:19.280 --> 03:56:21.159 swing open, and Steve Austin is the choice for the 4497 03:56:21.159 --> 03:56:23.479 guy to walk through those doors, and he's one. He's 4498 03:56:23.520 --> 03:56:26.079 the one power walking as things explode and fire off. 4499 03:56:26.120 --> 03:56:29.559 And there's like scenes of these stars being projected under 4500 03:56:29.559 --> 03:56:31.639 the screen and barking dogs. And one of the things 4501 03:56:31.680 --> 03:56:33.000 they did was put a bunch of guys in a 4502 03:56:33.120 --> 03:56:35.440 ring with like fire everywhere and had them just brawl 4503 03:56:35.520 --> 03:56:38.559 it out like this generic brawl happening, and Sid was 4504 03:56:38.600 --> 03:56:40.520 in there with his leather vest, brawling with I think 4505 03:56:40.520 --> 03:56:42.719 Brett Hart, and it was funny. For years after Sid 4506 03:56:42.799 --> 03:56:45.200 left the WWF, he was still in that opening montage 4507 03:56:45.879 --> 03:56:48.719 because he was part of that brawling scene. And tonight 4508 03:56:48.799 --> 03:56:52.319 Ro's war on Peacock. Of course, the image of the 4509 03:56:52.399 --> 03:56:56.239 show is bloody Steve Austin for Mestlemania thirteen, before that 4510 03:56:56.360 --> 03:56:59.719 match had even happened in the chronology, So God bless 4511 03:56:59.760 --> 03:57:03.639 those folks over there. But but you know, it's that's 4512 03:57:03.680 --> 03:57:05.639 what Peacock's fault is. It is the fact that. 4513 03:57:07.239 --> 03:57:10.399 You can't forget this. What was the original Raw is 4514 03:57:10.440 --> 03:57:14.319 War theme song? It wasn't. It wasn't too many guns 4515 03:57:14.399 --> 03:57:18.479 and not enough? What was it? I don't remember? What 4516 03:57:18.639 --> 03:57:26.959 was Beautiful People by Marilyn Manson? Wasn't really remember that? 4517 03:57:27.319 --> 03:57:30.159 Oh yeah, I do, I do, I do vaguely. 4518 03:57:30.520 --> 03:57:32.680 Music that they had to pay for. And while it 4519 03:57:32.799 --> 03:57:34.639 probably felt like a smart investment to get this new 4520 03:57:34.719 --> 03:57:36.840 concept of Raw off the ground, pretty soon they stopped 4521 03:57:36.840 --> 03:57:38.840 paying for it and went to the Raw is War 4522 03:57:41.319 --> 03:57:42.959 that we would know for years and years and years 4523 03:57:43.000 --> 03:57:46.799 during the Attitude era. But the problem is would that 4524 03:57:48.319 --> 03:57:50.760 I think with that change over in the music, they 4525 03:57:50.840 --> 03:57:54.120 also had to swap out the opening montage for the 4526 03:57:54.200 --> 03:57:57.200 one that they created after they stopped using the Marilyn 4527 03:57:57.280 --> 03:58:01.000 Manson music. So you go to these Peacocks Archives episodes 4528 03:58:01.040 --> 03:58:03.799 before Steve Austin ever bleeds against Brett WrestleMania, and you 4529 03:58:03.920 --> 03:58:06.639 still see that freeze frame during the open of Raw 4530 03:58:06.799 --> 03:58:10.639 because they swapped it out on those Archives episodes. 4531 03:58:10.200 --> 03:58:10.760 That happen. 4532 03:58:12.959 --> 03:58:14.840 Looking at and like I said, who kicks off the 4533 03:58:14.879 --> 03:58:17.639 first ever raw is war sid said. 4534 03:58:18.920 --> 03:58:23.600 Psycho said, I understand that you have had several meetings 4535 03:58:23.680 --> 03:58:27.440 with ww OF officials and that you are somewhat reluctant 4536 03:58:27.879 --> 03:58:30.959 to join Porza's tonight with the Undertaker. 4537 03:58:31.239 --> 03:58:37.959 What's the story, Jim Ross, You and everybody included must 4538 03:58:38.000 --> 03:58:42.559 think of something kind of fool something. I'm gonna tell 4539 03:58:42.559 --> 03:58:44.600 you something, Undertaker. 4540 03:58:46.000 --> 03:58:50.639 I know when pull bears around it was mankind of vader. 4541 03:58:52.239 --> 03:58:54.360 I smell something. 4542 03:58:54.559 --> 03:58:57.600 Yes you do, see, yes you do. 4543 03:58:58.399 --> 03:58:59.319 You'd be right in man. 4544 03:59:00.239 --> 03:59:03.479 So what I'm gonna do is this I've thought of 4545 03:59:03.559 --> 03:59:10.639 that I am not gonna fall for your. 4546 03:59:10.719 --> 03:59:14.239 Trap, Undertaker, because of WrestleMania. 4547 03:59:15.719 --> 03:59:18.280 You will fall victim have. 4548 03:59:18.360 --> 03:59:22.639 Become another symbol of one of my victories as the 4549 03:59:22.760 --> 03:59:33.040 World Wrestling Fairly said champions. 4550 03:59:29.360 --> 03:59:32.520 Like said, refusing to join forces. That's the Undertaker. 4551 03:59:33.360 --> 03:59:38.479 What you need to do tonight, Undertaker, and maybe even 4552 03:59:38.559 --> 03:59:41.920 for the rest of your career, is you stay in 4553 03:59:42.040 --> 03:59:47.879 the cemetery where you belong, because after WrestleMania. 4554 03:59:48.079 --> 03:59:51.760 That's where I will put you once and for good. 4555 03:59:52.559 --> 03:59:55.000 What about you? Oh, we are. 4556 03:59:54.959 --> 04:00:02.000 Thirteen days away, once and for good, for good? What 4557 04:00:02.200 --> 04:00:05.120 the fuck is wrong with him? How does he just 4558 04:00:05.239 --> 04:00:10.639 get so stupid. How does he get so stupid and 4559 04:00:10.760 --> 04:00:13.639 yet be such a smart businessman? Apparently? Yeah. 4560 04:00:13.760 --> 04:00:15.879 So later on the show, Taker and Sid do team up. 4561 04:00:15.879 --> 04:00:17.719 They end up fighting each other and there's choke slams, 4562 04:00:17.920 --> 04:00:19.239 and this is one of the first times you see 4563 04:00:19.280 --> 04:00:21.200 take Er do that huge dive where he clears the 4564 04:00:21.239 --> 04:00:24.799 top rope. He does that really because everyone comes out 4565 04:00:24.879 --> 04:00:27.239 right shake it up, and then Sid ends up power 4566 04:00:27.280 --> 04:00:30.120 bombing Undertaker. So the hype is on for that WrestleMania 4567 04:00:30.440 --> 04:00:32.959 main event on the March seventeenth, nineteen ninety seven Raw. 4568 04:00:33.079 --> 04:00:35.360 This is a historic one. This is Brett Hart versus 4569 04:00:35.399 --> 04:00:38.799 Sid in the cage for the WWF title, and they 4570 04:00:38.879 --> 04:00:40.280 go back and forth about whether the match will be 4571 04:00:40.360 --> 04:00:42.520 for the title that night. Guerrilla Monsoon finally decides yes, 4572 04:00:42.600 --> 04:00:45.280 it will be Bretdheart's new motto in the World Wresting Federation. 4573 04:00:45.399 --> 04:00:46.760 He says, you scratch my back. 4574 04:00:47.520 --> 04:00:52.239 Well, what's the second half? Seems like there's a new 4575 04:00:52.319 --> 04:00:55.959 motto in the World Wrestling Federation. I'll screw yours. You 4576 04:00:56.079 --> 04:00:59.879 scratch my back and I'll stab yours. I'll stab yours. 4577 04:01:02.959 --> 04:01:07.520 Jesus Christ, remember remember Sean walking away with a small 4578 04:01:07.600 --> 04:01:09.559 you know tears running down his face and limping. 4579 04:01:09.959 --> 04:01:10.159 Yeah. 4580 04:01:10.479 --> 04:01:13.399 Two weeks later, he's back on Raw and he's not hobbling, 4581 04:01:14.399 --> 04:01:16.520 he's not hobbling, and he's dressed like Don Johnson brought 4582 04:01:16.639 --> 04:01:21.639 Miami Vice. I mean, what the fuck, guys, no wonder 4583 04:01:21.680 --> 04:01:24.479 people said this. I mean two weeks later he's on Raw, 4584 04:01:24.680 --> 04:01:25.600 prancing around and. 4585 04:01:25.639 --> 04:01:26.280 Part of the mix. 4586 04:01:26.920 --> 04:01:28.920 Part of the mix they're hype in WrestleMania, and he's 4587 04:01:28.920 --> 04:01:32.680 standing there. He's in frame, So Shawn in play again. 4588 04:01:32.719 --> 04:01:35.600 I'm sure they didn't even fucking know. But this is 4589 04:01:35.680 --> 04:01:39.079 a famous one because they extend the window. Raw does 4590 04:01:39.079 --> 04:01:41.000 an overrun like for the first time, and they do 4591 04:01:41.120 --> 04:01:44.840 this usually controversial for the time angle after the matchup. 4592 04:01:44.879 --> 04:01:48.000 But before we get there, one last promo as champion 4593 04:01:48.159 --> 04:01:51.920 on Raw before he loses it to Undertaker at WrestleMania. 4594 04:01:52.520 --> 04:01:54.879 Here is sid be Constructed. 4595 04:01:55.200 --> 04:01:57.840 Psycho said, are you ready for Brett? 4596 04:01:58.239 --> 04:01:59.840 They hit man Heart. 4597 04:02:00.719 --> 04:02:05.680 Ready, miss big Back, go Stave Austin be Rediy, you 4598 04:02:05.879 --> 04:02:07.440 asked out of my business? 4599 04:02:07.719 --> 04:02:08.760 Did I know why you're here? 4600 04:02:09.120 --> 04:02:11.719 And you would have to be a complete idiot to 4601 04:02:11.879 --> 04:02:13.120 know what you're up to. 4602 04:02:13.879 --> 04:02:17.000 But tonight I am going to take red Hawk and 4603 04:02:17.120 --> 04:02:18.799 I'm going to power upon him. 4604 04:02:19.159 --> 04:02:22.559 Right through the floor, and I will walk out the. 4605 04:02:22.680 --> 04:02:25.120 World Wrestling Federation Champion. 4606 04:02:25.719 --> 04:02:29.680 One reason why, because I am the man, and I 4607 04:02:29.799 --> 04:02:33.520 am the Master, and I am the ruler of the world. 4608 04:02:34.200 --> 04:02:36.120 So Sid hits the ring, takes a minute to admire 4609 04:02:36.200 --> 04:02:38.520 that sparkling SID sign, which I feel like is such 4610 04:02:38.520 --> 04:02:41.559 an underrated part of why he's so fondly remembered. 4611 04:02:41.639 --> 04:02:43.719 Oh, I agree, I agree. That was huge because he 4612 04:02:43.920 --> 04:02:48.200 you know, he actually uh, it's funny because the Warrior 4613 04:02:48.360 --> 04:02:51.600 was doing that and then they gave it to said, Yeah. 4614 04:02:51.399 --> 04:02:53.719 They probably just like took a few pieces off the 4615 04:02:53.760 --> 04:02:55.879 Warrior's logo so it's spelled Sid instead. 4616 04:02:56.680 --> 04:02:57.920 Yeah, that's true. That's huge. 4617 04:02:58.520 --> 04:03:01.200 That's such a great entrance here with that thing, and 4618 04:03:01.440 --> 04:03:03.159 Undertaker and Steve Austin are trying to get their man 4619 04:03:03.239 --> 04:03:05.120 the title so they can go forward at Mania. Remember 4620 04:03:05.200 --> 04:03:07.200 that that was like the I do you know if 4621 04:03:07.360 --> 04:03:08.479 I do remember that wins. 4622 04:03:08.600 --> 04:03:12.600 It was was so weird because, you know, because because 4623 04:03:12.719 --> 04:03:19.280 the way that the championship was so sloppily done, not 4624 04:03:19.440 --> 04:03:21.399 not I don't mean like in the way that but 4625 04:03:21.520 --> 04:03:25.079 the fact that it was. It was you know because 4626 04:03:25.120 --> 04:03:29.120 back in the day you know, they the whole thing 4627 04:03:29.319 --> 04:03:32.760 was whoever wins the Royal Rumble faces whoever's champion, it 4628 04:03:32.760 --> 04:03:36.680 doesn't matter, you know, you know, if if it's Brett Hart, 4629 04:03:36.799 --> 04:03:39.799 doesn't matter, if it's Undertake, it doesn't matter. The winner 4630 04:03:40.079 --> 04:03:44.719 gets the title match. But because there was no winner 4631 04:03:44.760 --> 04:03:49.000 of the rumble, you know, the whole rumble scenario was 4632 04:03:49.120 --> 04:03:54.600 so just wasn't valid anymore. It was interesting because it 4633 04:03:54.760 --> 04:03:58.520 actually made it, you know, it actually made that possible 4634 04:03:58.559 --> 04:04:02.760 where you know, where one the championship would then get, 4635 04:04:03.280 --> 04:04:06.440 you know, they would have their match be for the 4636 04:04:06.479 --> 04:04:09.120 title at at WrestleMania. It was very interesting. 4637 04:04:09.200 --> 04:04:11.040 Yeah, your match was your match before they knew who 4638 04:04:11.040 --> 04:04:14.120 the champ was going to be, right right, as opposed 4639 04:04:14.159 --> 04:04:16.159 to one guy's going to challenge no matter who comes 4640 04:04:16.200 --> 04:04:19.760 in champion. And so you have Steve Austin ironically trying 4641 04:04:19.760 --> 04:04:21.639 to help Brett win the cage match against Sid so 4642 04:04:21.680 --> 04:04:23.799 he could get a title shot, and you have Undertaker 4643 04:04:23.840 --> 04:04:26.639 trying to help Sid so he could get a title shot. Yeah, 4644 04:04:26.680 --> 04:04:29.719 and a big spot where Brett super plexus Sid, which 4645 04:04:29.760 --> 04:04:31.239 is always a spot that they would do when they 4646 04:04:31.280 --> 04:04:33.479 work together to get the people up, and Sid goes 4647 04:04:33.479 --> 04:04:34.879 for the ride, and he does it for the industry. 4648 04:04:34.879 --> 04:04:35.840 I mean, I'm not here at enough. 4649 04:04:36.159 --> 04:04:37.680 That's true. There you go, that's what he does to 4650 04:04:37.719 --> 04:04:38.200 look past the. 4651 04:04:38.239 --> 04:04:43.520 Fact that Sid knew that taking massive soup plays off 4652 04:04:43.559 --> 04:04:45.879 the top rope equal to half a star in the 4653 04:04:45.959 --> 04:04:49.680 sheets and led to him being just a tad more 4654 04:04:49.760 --> 04:04:53.280 worthy of spotlight and a tad more worthy of our 4655 04:04:53.399 --> 04:04:57.639 desire to see guys that are too big to be 4656 04:04:57.719 --> 04:04:59.559 taking flip bumps take flip bumps. 4657 04:05:00.440 --> 04:05:16.280 It's the lapsed fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that 4658 04:05:16.440 --> 04:05:19.879 knows the boys need their candy. It's the lapsed fan. 4659 04:05:34.559 --> 04:05:38.479 He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnaco 4660 04:05:38.879 --> 04:05:40.159 and JP Soro. 4661 04:05:41.040 --> 04:05:44.280 And so there it was. And then Brett tries, you know, 4662 04:05:44.399 --> 04:05:47.959 you bump to take the bump, and you bump to 4663 04:05:48.000 --> 04:05:50.399 bump right, and then sometimes you feed the bump. 4664 04:05:50.520 --> 04:05:52.120 I don't think said would disagree with the single word 4665 04:05:52.159 --> 04:05:54.319 you just said. And that's kind of the beauty of 4666 04:05:54.360 --> 04:05:57.360 what we managed to achieve. Looking so closely at a career. 4667 04:05:57.280 --> 04:06:00.719 Like this, sometimes sometimes you don't understand, and sometimes you 4668 04:06:00.840 --> 04:06:04.200 have to bump. Sometimes you gotta bump to bump right, 4669 04:06:05.040 --> 04:06:07.799 and on different times you know when you got a 4670 04:06:07.879 --> 04:06:10.600 thing going on and you cut me people coming from 4671 04:06:10.680 --> 04:06:17.440 you at all sides. Sometimes sometimes you gotta feed the 4672 04:06:17.559 --> 04:06:24.879 bump and then bump to feed and things go different ways, up, down, 4673 04:06:25.360 --> 04:06:29.719 all around. But time and time again, I've proven that's 4674 04:06:29.799 --> 04:06:36.520 real simple, that it's real simple. A bump defines who 4675 04:06:37.040 --> 04:06:44.079 you are as a bump master. I guess that's true. Yeah, 4676 04:06:44.159 --> 04:06:46.239 if you're a bump master. Yes, bumps do define you. 4677 04:06:46.319 --> 04:06:49.559 That is true, And it's time to feed at the 4678 04:06:49.719 --> 04:06:53.000 draft of glory and definition. 4679 04:06:53.520 --> 04:06:55.680 What a troll job that would be if they convinced 4680 04:06:55.719 --> 04:06:57.719 the local newspaper that wrote a feature little bit for 4681 04:06:57.840 --> 04:07:02.600 Sid that his nickname in wrestling was the Master's that's Sid, 4682 04:07:02.680 --> 04:07:04.319 who is known in the industry as the bump Master 4683 04:07:04.520 --> 04:07:08.159 for his ability to take amazing follows from awkward angles. 4684 04:07:09.200 --> 04:07:11.120 The Revolutionary bump Master. 4685 04:07:13.360 --> 04:07:15.799 Sounds like a discarded nickname for PN news or something. 4686 04:07:17.559 --> 04:07:20.479 The Revolutionary bump Master, as he was known. 4687 04:07:21.479 --> 04:07:22.239 Oh my god. 4688 04:07:23.280 --> 04:07:25.360 So it plays out and Brett tries to get through 4689 04:07:25.360 --> 04:07:27.159 the door of the cage and Undertaker slammed it in 4690 04:07:27.239 --> 04:07:30.280 his face because he wants Sid to win, and as 4691 04:07:30.280 --> 04:07:33.959 a result of doing that, Sid does win. So he 4692 04:07:34.079 --> 04:07:38.159 retains the championship. The ring clears and Vince gets in 4693 04:07:38.200 --> 04:07:40.399 the ring to do a postmatch interview with Brett Hart 4694 04:07:41.040 --> 04:07:43.360 and he says, you know, Brett, you must be frustrated, 4695 04:07:43.399 --> 04:07:46.879 and Brett goes frustrated. Frustrated is not the goddamn word 4696 04:07:47.000 --> 04:07:50.799 for it. This is bullshit. First time ship had ever 4697 04:07:50.879 --> 04:07:54.040 been said. I remember like watching this, like, oh my god, 4698 04:07:54.120 --> 04:07:57.200 he just said that, like I was so heart in 4699 04:07:57.280 --> 04:07:59.200 my throat when he did that, and then he shoved Vince, 4700 04:07:59.360 --> 04:08:03.520 like whoa, he's actually attacking Vince, Like that's that's crossing 4701 04:08:03.559 --> 04:08:06.680 a line we haven't seen cross before. And he says, 4702 04:08:06.719 --> 04:08:10.319 if you don't like it, tough ship. And it's funny 4703 04:08:10.399 --> 04:08:13.719 because Sid is uh having won the match, He's still 4704 04:08:13.799 --> 04:08:16.280 up at the top of this new rampway and he's 4705 04:08:16.479 --> 04:08:19.520 listening to everything Brett's saying, and Brett looks at him 4706 04:08:19.520 --> 04:08:22.680 and he's telling him, you know, if you don't like it, 4707 04:08:22.760 --> 04:08:24.520 I'm the champion. If you don't like it, that's tough 4708 04:08:24.559 --> 04:08:27.200 ship to you. And Sid's pointing to Brett and if 4709 04:08:27.239 --> 04:08:30.200 you listen to the camera picks up Sid saying something hilarious. 4710 04:08:29.959 --> 04:08:32.399 Is it apologize takes a red. 4711 04:08:34.559 --> 04:08:36.879 You are wrong belt. 4712 04:08:48.000 --> 04:08:51.000 Apologized, takes a red. 4713 04:08:53.159 --> 04:08:55.559 You are wrong belt. 4714 04:09:00.120 --> 04:09:07.079 That hard lady, Sid, I don't know shit, ladies and gentlemen, 4715 04:09:07.120 --> 04:09:09.319 witness said, when they let guys say shit un raw 4716 04:09:09.399 --> 04:09:12.120 for the first time, first chance. 4717 04:09:11.959 --> 04:09:16.639 He gets I don't know shit, cry baby, Sid, Sid 4718 04:09:17.879 --> 04:09:18.639 wil it out. 4719 04:09:19.840 --> 04:09:21.799 Oh god, I can't fucking handle it. 4720 04:09:22.239 --> 04:09:22.639 I can't. 4721 04:09:23.479 --> 04:09:25.280 He's so I don't know shit. 4722 04:09:25.760 --> 04:09:28.639 I never told would say I don't know shit, like 4723 04:09:30.239 --> 04:09:31.760 you know, and like in the moment, it's you get 4724 04:09:31.799 --> 04:09:34.760 why he said it, But like somehow no one else 4725 04:09:34.879 --> 04:09:37.200 ends up doing that to themselves, you. 4726 04:09:37.239 --> 04:09:40.120 Know, no one else ends up suddenly complete. 4727 04:09:40.120 --> 04:09:45.159 And utter fool Sid, all right, and what's the one 4728 04:09:45.239 --> 04:09:47.719 with Nash does We'll get there, But it's in w 4729 04:09:47.879 --> 04:09:50.319 C in the run to come, and he says something like, 4730 04:09:51.200 --> 04:09:53.559 you know, you don't have half I have half the 4731 04:09:53.600 --> 04:09:56.959 brain that you do. And he would try to patch 4732 04:09:57.040 --> 04:09:59.639 that up and act like he was told to say that, 4733 04:10:00.719 --> 04:10:02.440 like that was he was giving a script to say that, 4734 04:10:02.600 --> 04:10:04.000 to make him sound. 4735 04:10:03.959 --> 04:10:08.319 Oh no, dude, like it's just bad. It's just bad. 4736 04:10:08.680 --> 04:10:15.000 He's such like you know, for every for every like 4737 04:10:15.440 --> 04:10:18.799 you know, moment of greatness, he's got like eighty of 4738 04:10:19.200 --> 04:10:21.520 just it exactly. And that's what we're here to do, 4739 04:10:21.680 --> 04:10:25.479 is to do the math, right. I don't know shit. 4740 04:10:28.360 --> 04:10:32.200 I'm a fucking to add that. That's when he really 4741 04:10:32.799 --> 04:10:33.559 dug his own grave. 4742 04:10:34.959 --> 04:10:37.600 You know what I do, Bret Hort, I stick my 4743 04:10:37.719 --> 04:10:40.799 head in the sand and I eat warm. 4744 04:10:42.559 --> 04:10:46.000 I don't know shit, cry baby. I don't file taxes 4745 04:10:46.079 --> 04:10:53.280 like I'm supposed to a hot income. I'm a tax dodger. 4746 04:10:54.760 --> 04:11:00.360 It's like what, I don't know shit. 4747 04:11:01.319 --> 04:11:07.639 I don't live here, he says Russ Upple, I got 4748 04:11:07.719 --> 04:11:14.840 to be on us. I don't know shit on just 4749 04:11:15.040 --> 04:11:17.600 no Fianna Sausages. 4750 04:11:18.840 --> 04:11:20.799 And Austin and Taker are tussling as well to end 4751 04:11:20.799 --> 04:11:25.040 this episode of raw and uh, it's amazing. And this 4752 04:11:25.159 --> 04:11:27.920 is also where Brett Deck's hall offimer Pat Patterson, that 4753 04:11:28.040 --> 04:11:30.040 dirty son of it in Vince almost says son of 4754 04:11:30.079 --> 04:11:32.959 a bitch on commentary because Brett laid out Patterson, who, 4755 04:11:33.000 --> 04:11:35.719 by the way, absolutely had to be the agent that 4756 04:11:35.879 --> 04:11:39.159 was crying for Shawn Michaels after Sid beat Sean. There's 4757 04:11:39.200 --> 04:11:42.799 nothing pat loved more than to cry at Shawn Michaels. 4758 04:11:43.399 --> 04:11:47.079 Uh famously. Uh, you know he agented the Iron Man match, 4759 04:11:47.159 --> 04:11:49.840 and I would cry. And afterwards, you know, with Pat cries, 4760 04:11:49.959 --> 04:11:52.559 he does, he'd let you know he cried. You know, 4761 04:11:53.159 --> 04:11:57.360 that's like his way of remembering something as being epic. Oh, 4762 04:11:57.399 --> 04:12:00.520 if Pat cries, it's a big deal. And he loved 4763 04:12:00.559 --> 04:12:02.639 Shawn and loved you know, coming up with stuff for 4764 04:12:02.680 --> 04:12:05.840 Shawn's matches and all that, So that would be my guess. Anyway, 4765 04:12:06.639 --> 04:12:09.000 Brett Deck's Pat Patterson as well. And now Brett's well 4766 04:12:09.040 --> 04:12:11.879 on his way to being this uber heel that elevates 4767 04:12:12.520 --> 04:12:14.959 the uber the baby faced Steve Austin, and we're off 4768 04:12:15.000 --> 04:12:17.280 to the races in that regard. And while this is 4769 04:12:17.280 --> 04:12:19.600 all going on here in this final rob before WRESTLMINGI thirteen, 4770 04:12:19.600 --> 04:12:23.159 Shawn Michaels himself surefooted as ever, comes out and surveys 4771 04:12:23.200 --> 04:12:27.120 all the chaos and Sid makes one last walkers Champion, 4772 04:12:27.200 --> 04:12:31.239 Ladies and gentlemen at the WrestleMania thirteen in Chicago, where 4773 04:12:31.239 --> 04:12:34.000 he is to defend the championship against the Undertaker. 4774 04:12:34.680 --> 04:12:35.280 And here it is. 4775 04:12:37.120 --> 04:12:41.159 Sean and Michael's and Sean Michael's did you have those 4776 04:12:41.200 --> 04:12:42.799 ghost bumps all over your body? 4777 04:12:42.840 --> 04:12:43.959 With us man coming in a ry? 4778 04:12:44.000 --> 04:12:46.360 Oh yeah, I love yeah, are you ready to take 4779 04:12:46.959 --> 04:12:48.799 a walk on the dark side? 4780 04:12:48.920 --> 04:12:49.520 Guests to night. 4781 04:12:49.799 --> 04:12:52.680 I think it's gonna happen when Yonder Taker's got my man, 4782 04:12:52.760 --> 04:12:55.200 I'm coming in. I'll tell you what. Then you're in 4783 04:12:55.280 --> 04:12:57.719 this building right now, I'm mounting that. Boys and girls, 4784 04:12:58.040 --> 04:12:58.760 you can feel it. 4785 04:12:59.120 --> 04:13:01.079 Something is definitely gonna go down tonight. 4786 04:13:01.520 --> 04:13:04.319 And something I already has its spiking up. Something going down. 4787 04:13:04.799 --> 04:13:09.000 Here he comes, she. 4788 04:13:12.760 --> 04:13:16.840 Said, ladies and gentlemen, And he is the man, and 4789 04:13:17.000 --> 04:13:17.799 he stepped. 4790 04:13:17.520 --> 04:13:19.840 To the ring, and he speak. 4791 04:13:24.040 --> 04:13:26.360 And then think about Ken said, if. 4792 04:13:26.239 --> 04:13:29.799 He has time upbraid and I'm the dark and I 4793 04:13:29.920 --> 04:13:30.120 know what. 4794 04:13:30.360 --> 04:13:33.520 Sometimes back you, okay, sometimes you. 4795 04:13:33.639 --> 04:13:36.239 Gotta be smart enough to be a plaid like see, 4796 04:13:36.639 --> 04:13:38.079 I'm afraid of the dark. 4797 04:13:38.280 --> 04:13:40.520 You know what I'm afraid of, Sean Michaels. I'm afraid 4798 04:13:40.559 --> 04:13:42.479 you're a big liar. Why don't you tell the truth. 4799 04:13:42.600 --> 04:13:44.479 You're out here for one reason. You're out here to 4800 04:13:44.559 --> 04:13:45.879 try to do something the fight. 4801 04:13:45.920 --> 04:13:47.799 Don't sit Why don't you tell a night not to 4802 04:13:47.879 --> 04:13:48.559 out a chance? 4803 04:13:48.719 --> 04:13:49.399 Not a chance. 4804 04:13:49.719 --> 04:13:52.280 I'm here to watch fine, here's a rustling fan. 4805 04:13:52.520 --> 04:13:55.440 I feel like I'm a gold year old boy against sitting. 4806 04:13:55.200 --> 04:13:58.360 Here watching the sport that I love from the good scene. 4807 04:14:00.600 --> 04:14:02.200 Yeah, in the front call. 4808 04:14:03.719 --> 04:14:07.120 Theres I is said three sixty nine per team, the 4809 04:14:07.319 --> 04:14:09.799 challenger six ten three twenty eight? 4810 04:14:10.719 --> 04:14:14.639 What a nic will not be a technical master fee that's. 4811 04:14:14.479 --> 04:14:16.000 Gonna be up come again? 4812 04:14:16.159 --> 04:14:18.440 God mean who will follow his tenth? 4813 04:14:18.719 --> 04:14:19.159 Of course? 4814 04:14:19.600 --> 04:14:20.840 Will it be the five five? 4815 04:14:21.280 --> 04:14:22.280 Or will it be the tenth? 4816 04:14:22.360 --> 04:14:24.440 Don't tile Driver and Sean Michels. 4817 04:14:24.479 --> 04:14:26.600 You've been in the ring with both of these individuals, 4818 04:14:27.559 --> 04:14:30.879 and I would suggest that you know exactly what it's 4819 04:14:30.959 --> 04:14:33.479 like if you want to receiving end of when them 4820 04:14:33.479 --> 04:14:35.680 Psycho said power bombs is land matter? 4821 04:14:35.959 --> 04:14:37.280 A duke got oh there it is? 4822 04:14:37.719 --> 04:14:40.280 What he's the man? Is he enough? 4823 04:14:40.399 --> 04:14:40.559 Man? 4824 04:14:41.000 --> 04:14:43.360 I'm gonna tell you what a lot of this has 4825 04:14:43.440 --> 04:14:44.600 to do with's momentum. 4826 04:14:44.920 --> 04:14:48.920 Stud has had momentum. It's an India those square card. No, 4827 04:14:49.040 --> 04:14:51.360 I don't think he's had flu then on but the 4828 04:14:51.399 --> 04:14:52.680 other night, dr night. 4829 04:14:52.840 --> 04:14:55.559 I just played to the awards. You can tell that's 4830 04:14:55.559 --> 04:14:58.079 the other day. A walk up there to receive. 4831 04:14:57.920 --> 04:14:59.079 The war deck for award. 4832 04:14:59.440 --> 04:14:59.840 Its fun. 4833 04:15:00.000 --> 04:15:04.479 He was changing, beam was changing I well of first 4834 04:15:04.520 --> 04:15:06.280 time ever. I don't want to write for much. 4835 04:15:06.719 --> 04:15:08.280 I would not want to be in the ring, But 4836 04:15:08.479 --> 04:15:10.680 either one of these guys, you're talking a whole lot 4837 04:15:10.719 --> 04:15:12.360 of bunk, a whole lot of mass. 4838 04:15:12.680 --> 04:15:13.600 You ready to get that. 4839 04:15:14.000 --> 04:15:16.879 It's all about respect, is it not, Sean Michaels, and 4840 04:15:16.920 --> 04:15:20.079 I would suggest, and certainly you respect Boom in the 4841 04:15:20.159 --> 04:15:22.520 Miduels in the ring as well as they respect each other. 4842 04:15:22.959 --> 04:15:23.280 Certainly. 4843 04:15:23.319 --> 04:15:24.440 Oh yeah, I mean there are a lot of guys 4844 04:15:24.520 --> 04:15:26.840 you're in a well ustling federation that it would sit 4845 04:15:26.920 --> 04:15:27.120 in my. 4846 04:15:27.360 --> 04:15:29.680 Chair right now and take the cheap shots to post 4847 04:15:29.719 --> 04:15:30.200 these guys. 4848 04:15:30.440 --> 04:15:31.239 I'm not gonna do it. 4849 04:15:31.479 --> 04:15:34.399 I respect for Sid and I have my limited respect 4850 04:15:34.639 --> 04:15:37.639 for the Undertaker. He's got ice water ring through his veins. 4851 04:15:37.840 --> 04:15:39.959 You ain't gonna shake up the Undertaker, So you got 4852 04:15:40.000 --> 04:15:41.479 to pay out some way to beat him, and it 4853 04:15:41.520 --> 04:15:41.920 ain't ees. 4854 04:15:42.879 --> 04:15:46.079 So it's wrestling Mania thirteen. Sid walks on to a big, 4855 04:15:46.239 --> 04:15:48.719 big stage. I think we can say one last time 4856 04:15:49.520 --> 04:15:52.239 in a lot of ways, well he sure got some people, 4857 04:15:52.319 --> 04:15:54.920 I mean, events, WCW. It never quite felt like this 4858 04:15:55.079 --> 04:15:58.680 again for Sid as he does the honors for the 4859 04:15:58.840 --> 04:16:02.559 Undertaker and and you know, not before Brett comes out 4860 04:16:03.159 --> 04:16:05.239 and gets involved like the bitch he is after. 4861 04:16:05.079 --> 04:16:07.319 That, I know, I know seriously, like they just this 4862 04:16:07.520 --> 04:16:10.840 is that. I mean, it's it's great to me. It 4863 04:16:11.000 --> 04:16:14.879 was great because it solidified his heel status, but still 4864 04:16:14.959 --> 04:16:16.360 is he is He is a bitch. 4865 04:16:17.479 --> 04:16:19.479 He is a bitch for coming out after assaulting Steve 4866 04:16:19.520 --> 04:16:21.440 Austin after the bell and passing him out in the 4867 04:16:21.440 --> 04:16:23.200 sharpshooter and then taking the chair to his knee and 4868 04:16:23.239 --> 04:16:25.559 all that. So he's full heel now flipping fans off 4869 04:16:25.600 --> 04:16:27.600 on his way back up the aisleway, and then he 4870 04:16:27.680 --> 04:16:30.079 comes out and tries to fuck with the WWF title match. 4871 04:16:30.600 --> 04:16:34.520 So it happens, and Sid ends up getting basically hot 4872 04:16:34.559 --> 04:16:36.639 shot across the top rope from the apron by an 4873 04:16:36.680 --> 04:16:40.879 interfering Brett Hart and spins right around and to the 4874 04:16:41.079 --> 04:16:44.719 end of his second and final WWF world title reign. 4875 04:16:45.399 --> 04:16:48.760 The moment tivin dat w w F Champion is his drink. 4876 04:16:49.120 --> 04:16:51.040 Maybe a love best going on in the arena, but 4877 04:16:51.120 --> 04:16:53.239 that love is about to turn the rage. This man, 4878 04:16:53.280 --> 04:16:56.799 the World Wrestling Federation Champion. Psycho Sid has defeated Sewn Michaels, 4879 04:16:56.959 --> 04:16:59.559 he has defeated Brett Hard and tonight, Psycho Sid, this 4880 04:16:59.639 --> 04:17:03.040 could be the most important night of your w WF career. 4881 04:17:03.079 --> 04:17:06.200 As you meet the Undertaker letting go, You are right, 4882 04:17:06.280 --> 04:17:10.360 my friend, WrestleMania is the biggest, the beat of the world. 4883 04:17:11.760 --> 04:17:13.280 What's a year but. 4884 04:17:13.440 --> 04:17:16.479 The night when darkness false? 4885 04:17:17.360 --> 04:17:22.520 Every man, woman and child, Oh, he is scared except. 4886 04:17:22.200 --> 04:17:23.079 For one person. 4887 04:17:24.479 --> 04:17:28.319 Only one person is that scared of the darkness. And 4888 04:17:28.520 --> 04:17:31.920 one person is not scared of the Undertaker. And that 4889 04:17:32.000 --> 04:17:34.760 has me, my friend, the game. 4890 04:17:34.879 --> 04:17:37.360 We plase, I am the master. 4891 04:17:40.479 --> 04:17:44.120 Yeah, yeah, they already has. 4892 04:17:44.159 --> 04:17:54.680 It's pigging up, something going down there. You come, lad 4893 04:17:54.840 --> 04:17:56.399 and gentlemen, and he. 4894 04:17:56.840 --> 04:18:01.239 Is the man who he sapt for the rag. We speak. 4895 04:18:05.479 --> 04:18:06.319 And then they are hot. 4896 04:18:06.440 --> 04:18:09.920 Like con said, if he has time up grade, I'm 4897 04:18:09.959 --> 04:18:12.920 the dark and you know what, sometimes. 4898 04:18:12.760 --> 04:18:15.799 I can work against ship. Sometimes you gotta be smart 4899 04:18:15.959 --> 04:18:19.479 enough to be afraaid, Like, gee, I'm afraid of the dark. 4900 04:18:19.719 --> 04:18:21.959 You know what I'm afraid of Sean Michael's I'm afraid 4901 04:18:22.000 --> 04:18:23.920 you're a big liar. Why don't you tell them truth? 4902 04:18:24.040 --> 04:18:25.920 You're out here for one reason. You're out here to 4903 04:18:26.000 --> 04:18:27.760 try to do something that's not gonna sit. 4904 04:18:27.920 --> 04:18:29.239 Why don't you tell him to about that? 4905 04:18:29.319 --> 04:18:30.840 Not a chance, not a chance. 4906 04:18:31.159 --> 04:18:33.840 I'm here the last five years a rustling man. 4907 04:18:33.959 --> 04:18:36.799 I feel like I'm a twelve year old boy against sitting. 4908 04:18:36.600 --> 04:18:37.680 Here watching the sport. 4909 04:18:37.760 --> 04:18:39.319 Then, oh boy, I'm a. 4910 04:18:39.319 --> 04:18:43.680 Good seats again. All about Sean in a fun ron. 4911 04:18:45.120 --> 04:18:48.360 Theres I'm a said the six y nine treatmer ms 4912 04:18:48.559 --> 04:18:52.840 the calender six ten three twenty eight on this that 4913 04:18:53.000 --> 04:18:55.079 will not be a tend'tal master th. 4914 04:18:55.639 --> 04:18:57.920 That's gonna be a slick or knocker. There's gonna be 4915 04:18:58.200 --> 04:19:00.840 who will follow his tenth the pass. 4916 04:19:01.040 --> 04:19:03.280 Want to be the high bab or will it be 4917 04:19:03.399 --> 04:19:04.040 the tents. 4918 04:19:03.799 --> 04:19:05.879 Don't til driver and Sean Michaels. 4919 04:19:05.920 --> 04:19:08.040 You've been in the ring with both of these individuals, 4920 04:19:09.000 --> 04:19:12.280 and I would suggest that you know exactly what it's 4921 04:19:12.399 --> 04:19:15.399 like to be on the receiving end of when mside goes. 4922 04:19:15.479 --> 04:19:16.719 It's power bombses l. 4923 04:19:16.920 --> 04:19:19.959 Matter a dum got oh there it is what he's 4924 04:19:20.000 --> 04:19:20.399 the man? 4925 04:19:21.159 --> 04:19:21.680 Is he enough? 4926 04:19:21.840 --> 04:19:22.000 Man? 4927 04:19:22.520 --> 04:19:26.040 Wan tell you what this has to do with momentum. 4928 04:19:26.360 --> 04:19:29.120 Sid has had momentum since he med me in those 4929 04:19:29.239 --> 04:19:32.159 square garden, and I don't like he's had from then on. 4930 04:19:32.559 --> 04:19:34.559 But the other night, dry night, I just. 4931 04:19:34.680 --> 04:19:35.479 Play the awards. 4932 04:19:35.840 --> 04:19:38.159 You can tell as the other make a walk up 4933 04:19:38.239 --> 04:19:38.719 there to. 4934 04:19:38.840 --> 04:19:42.200 Receive more des for award and Fucting was changing. 4935 04:19:42.479 --> 04:19:43.879 I'm moments changing. 4936 04:19:44.520 --> 04:19:47.079 I'm well the first time ever. I don't want to 4937 04:19:47.120 --> 04:19:47.719 wait for much. 4938 04:19:48.120 --> 04:19:49.719 I would not want to be in the ring with 4939 04:19:49.879 --> 04:19:52.120 either one of these guys. You're talking a whole lot 4940 04:19:52.159 --> 04:19:54.719 of folk, a whole lot of masks. You're ready to 4941 04:19:54.760 --> 04:19:55.040 get that. 4942 04:19:55.440 --> 04:19:58.239 It's all about in respect, is it not, Sean Michaels, 4943 04:19:58.280 --> 04:20:02.239 and I would suggest it certainly. Respect individuals in the 4944 04:20:02.319 --> 04:20:03.959 ring as well as they respect each other. 4945 04:20:04.360 --> 04:20:05.680 Certainly. Oh yeah, I mean there are a lot of 4946 04:20:05.719 --> 04:20:07.719 guys here in the Love Vessel Federation that. 4947 04:20:07.799 --> 04:20:10.079 I would sit in my chair right now and take 4948 04:20:10.200 --> 04:20:12.680 cheap shots in both these guys. I'm not gonna do it. 4949 04:20:12.879 --> 04:20:16.000 I respect for Sin and I have no limited respect 4950 04:20:16.239 --> 04:20:19.239 for the Undertaker. He's got ice water running through his veins. 4951 04:20:19.440 --> 04:20:21.600 You ain't gonna shake up the Undertaker, So you gonna 4952 04:20:21.600 --> 04:20:22.079 to fire. 4953 04:20:21.879 --> 04:20:23.520 Out some way to beat him at it ain't he's 4954 04:20:24.799 --> 04:20:25.280 here on in. 4955 04:20:25.600 --> 04:20:26.879 It's a new set of rules. 4956 04:20:26.920 --> 04:20:28.000 You're pretty showing me. 4957 04:20:28.280 --> 04:20:30.879 Oh my, I can't remember last time Brett was anybody's friend. 4958 04:20:30.959 --> 04:20:31.280 And you. 4959 04:20:34.520 --> 04:20:38.479 You know, and I know Brett comes out before the matter. 4960 04:20:41.680 --> 04:20:45.280 No, he said he's a compet dang that World Resident 4961 04:20:45.479 --> 04:20:46.440 Federation shiff. 4962 04:20:46.479 --> 04:20:48.520 You're suppel belongs. 4963 04:20:48.079 --> 04:20:50.440 To me and you are fraud. 4964 04:20:51.840 --> 04:20:52.600 Well it looks like. 4965 04:20:55.120 --> 04:20:55.520 You know it. 4966 04:20:56.159 --> 04:20:56.559 I know it. 4967 04:20:56.879 --> 04:20:59.760 And every single person in this building, whether you're here, 4968 04:21:00.120 --> 04:21:03.079 we're outside of TV man, you all know that I 4969 04:21:03.200 --> 04:21:06.399 am the pestor is the pestor was and the pestor 4970 04:21:06.479 --> 04:21:06.639 of a. 4971 04:21:06.719 --> 04:21:11.760 Wilber said, I'll read that. 4972 04:21:12.040 --> 04:21:14.079 And now you're getting beat up because you're big mouth. 4973 04:21:14.319 --> 04:21:20.239 Oh prop hard power. 4974 04:21:22.040 --> 04:21:24.520 After that submission match, let's not put him in a 4975 04:21:24.600 --> 04:21:25.280 bad way. 4976 04:21:25.959 --> 04:21:27.920 Do you take your side? 4977 04:21:29.079 --> 04:21:33.520 Yeah's amazing Ron. 4978 04:21:33.440 --> 04:21:35.719 Hart, who was technically a winner. 4979 04:21:37.559 --> 04:21:41.040 You may say technically because Steve Austin never said he 4980 04:21:41.159 --> 04:21:42.040 said he will. 4981 04:21:42.079 --> 04:21:44.200 You never hear the words I quit, and we never 4982 04:21:44.319 --> 04:21:44.959 ever did. 4983 04:21:45.399 --> 04:21:51.639 Hold along time lady, because why did the din you 4984 04:21:51.760 --> 04:21:53.840 hear ass We. 4985 04:21:53.920 --> 04:21:54.799 May tell him. 4986 04:21:56.920 --> 04:21:58.559 They chip out of watchings. 4987 04:22:01.120 --> 04:22:03.840 Anything can happen, and it usually does. It's just the 4988 04:22:03.959 --> 04:22:06.000 rest of us don't warning about it. Just he does, 4989 04:22:07.200 --> 04:22:12.959 regardless of the undertaker is Hall. Steve toughslam f Tough 4990 04:22:13.079 --> 04:22:15.120 slam SA. 4991 04:22:15.479 --> 04:22:16.440 Said, what. 4992 04:22:19.079 --> 04:22:19.840 Are you baby? 4993 04:22:19.959 --> 04:22:25.639 There no no well cover I can man. 4994 04:22:27.079 --> 04:22:27.879 Coming believe the. 4995 04:22:27.959 --> 04:22:30.959 Water sat tech tou They got the right seer up 4996 04:22:31.360 --> 04:22:32.959 if you can watch have a leave that. 4997 04:22:36.600 --> 04:22:39.840 Set in the undertaker fuck man back up on their feet, repurt. 4998 04:22:39.879 --> 04:22:41.840 So now I'm gonna take her off the ropes from 4999 04:22:41.920 --> 04:22:43.079 the other side, under take. 5000 04:22:42.959 --> 04:22:43.559 Her in there. 5001 04:22:44.959 --> 04:22:47.639 Set, I'm going to the contact there say it saw 5002 04:22:47.639 --> 04:22:49.719 im come, I'm gonna move by said, I'm undertake your 5003 04:22:49.760 --> 04:22:52.399 way for the flying clothes on against Sid ducked. 5004 04:22:52.239 --> 04:22:52.920 Out of the way. 5005 04:22:54.399 --> 04:22:58.000 And a sea saw matchup for the World Rosstak Federation Championship. 5006 04:22:58.079 --> 04:22:58.760 And here we are. 5007 04:23:00.399 --> 04:23:03.399 Power power. 5008 04:23:05.440 --> 04:23:09.559 Shure ho run your fam Come on, Pratt. 5009 04:23:11.799 --> 04:23:12.879 Doesn't he ever had time? 5010 04:23:13.040 --> 04:23:17.920 Rda tombstone? 5011 04:23:19.680 --> 04:23:42.760 Tombstone, He's as time. 5012 04:23:51.280 --> 04:23:54.280 And so the title reign that said is over, but 5013 04:23:54.440 --> 04:23:57.840 our examination of his title reign has one leg to go. 5014 04:23:58.280 --> 04:24:00.440 The next time, We're with you on t LS tribute 5015 04:24:00.479 --> 04:24:04.639 to Sid we deep dive the February seventeenth, nineteen ninety 5016 04:24:04.680 --> 04:24:07.559 seven edition of Monday Night Raw, where Sid captures the 5017 04:24:07.600 --> 04:24:13.120 belt for the second time. We'll see you then, biting announcement. 5018 04:24:13.120 --> 04:24:16.520 As a tej Tosantus production, its contents is intended for 5019 04:24:16.639 --> 04:24:17.600 private use only.