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Speaker 1: It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and carn

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Speaker 2: In all my years and wrestling.

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Speaker 3: I never seen anything.

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Speaker 4: And it's the laps fan name by the one in

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Speaker 5: Forget about Sado.

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Speaker 6: He the real king of swing.

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Speaker 2: When the bell.

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Speaker 4: Goes in and the kick like me throwing in the corner.

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Speaker 7: But it's lash like stick.

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Speaker 5: Even Jerry King can take off the crowd nodded in.

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Speaker 8: His head like it.

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Speaker 4: Steve low Brown, would you get low down?

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Speaker 9: Go even high up?

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Speaker 3: Flipp you on your head?

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Speaker 10: But you know cool driver, you.

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Speaker 11: Speak more now and Dragon spits fire give you more

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shock than when he treats higher drop a more truth

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than the con of sniper unless you with a coconut.

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Speaker 3: Roddy Piper, Jack and JP.

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Speaker 4: He like j Y d drop the cupcakes and gold.

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Speaker 12: The brain Bob means the best podcast Frost start the

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close cloud.

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Speaker 13: If you all been as a classic.

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Speaker 14: And pose well, this is the run. This is the

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run of SID as we continue our tribute to the

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Psychotic One here on TLF which and Sid Fashion Boss

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Speaker 5: Well actually there was a SID.

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Speaker 14: On this on the Austrian indies named Sid Vienna, but

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they didn't not they never got sued for copyright infringement

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or anything like that.

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Speaker 5: Surprising it that's his fall. Should have checked it on it.

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Speaker 14: But I mean, I adventure to say, if not for

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the run we're about to talk about, on a journey

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that into Sid fashion keeps growing new heads.

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Speaker 5: As it Inferls before us. But we don't. We don't.

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Speaker 14: We don't shy away from the challenge, no matter how

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psychotically those eyes wilink.

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Speaker 5: That's the reality of it, all right. You know we've

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said it, and it's not we don't be We're not

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facetious when we say it that we leave no stone.

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Speaker 14: Unturned TFX like damn fucking right. Indeed, And so as

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we look at SiZ returned to the w WF in

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nineteen ninety six where we last left you, this is

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the run where if you didn't have this run, I'm

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pretty sure we don't do a tribute show with this guy.

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I mean, as central as he was to the Hasbro

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era with the Hogan feud that was, that could have

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just gone down, as you know, no different than Hogan's

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feud with I don't know, somewhat different but not much

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different than this feud with what Big Boss Man or

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something or.

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Speaker 5: Ki Kung Bundy King Kung Bunny. Very very good. Yeah,

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because there's the wrestleming the main event competit to that

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one as well.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, but because he won the WWF Championship after stabbing

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ourn Anderson, after being h exiled and becoming you know, unemployable.

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Speaker 5: And I knew that they even knew that he was,

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that he had stabbed arn Anderson when he came back

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in ninety six. I don't think I knew that. Now.

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Speaker 14: That wasn't really something you would easily know unless you

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subscribe to the newsletters. Yeah, I'm sure it was on

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the internet, but the Internet was still you know, prodigy.

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It wasn't very easy and intuitive to find him for

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me about wrestling if you weren't plugged into the right

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message boards and forums. And even then, you know what

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happened to be sort of mentioned offhandedly, it had happened

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years ago, years prior rather, but when it happened in

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ninety three, yeah, I mean, there was very limited information.

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I'm sure further because it took place in England, it

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wasn't even like a right story The American news media covered.

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So it's just it's so pro wrestling that Sid has

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the run of his life and cements' legacy after you know,

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doing something more horrific than pretty much anyone in an

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American wrestling office. This other ever done into a co

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worker here. So that's the business. That's the Sid story.

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And he comes back in ninety six, as we talked about,

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because Ultimate Warrior has another falling out with the company.

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There was supposed to be a main event in the

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July ninety six international incident in your House where Hogan,

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pardon me, Hogan, Warrior was team with a sary.

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Speaker 5: What do you mean an international dude?

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Speaker 14: Hogan does not believe that was an innocent slip of

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the Tongue Warrior Shawn Michaels and I'm a Johnson. It's

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supposed to be a three man team and a six

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man Warrior falls out. Sid shows up. We played that

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you know, it's just this idea. We need to do

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an emergency replacement, get him on a couple of house shows. Well,

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warri were scheduled and the fans be pissed off if

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he doesn't show up. Replace them with somebody, you know,

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with the star power of Sid uh to make them

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happy and make entreaties to sit around just a fuck

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couple of shots, you know, just come in. We just

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need you to power mombs and people bail us out

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for this pay per view, and then pretty soon we

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need you, Pal.

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Speaker 5: But I never said we weren't going to use you

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full time, you know. I didn't say that we weren't.

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of things now, and then we'll probably have you working overtime. Listen,

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but I'm paying for you, Sid. We need you, Pal.

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right now we need Sid. We need a lot of

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things to go psychotic. In ring, he tells Sid, we

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need a lot of things. In other words like look,

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I can't I don't have any time right now for

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you to say no to a full time run. Listen,

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turn back. And he does.

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Speaker 14: And you want to talk about serendipity. What was the

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last pay per view that we did on the feed

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before SID before deciding on the SID tribute shows and

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embarking on that.

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Speaker 5: It was buried Alive, right, I mean, come on, yeah.

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Speaker 14: Right, that's the pay per view where it's now clear

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that they've shift shifted directions that Vader is not indeed

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going to take the strap off Shawn Michaels at the

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nineteen ninety six Survivor series, as we've talked about in

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the archives covering that show quite a ways ago, and

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that they're going to go with Sid because Sid beats

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Vader at Buried Alive or relatively cleanly, and you can

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kind of see the in my opinion, the pou pout

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face on Vader as he makes his way to the

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ring for that match. He does not look like a

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happy guy. He looks like someone that, according to Sid,

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was just kind of made it a ware over the

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weekend that he's not going to get the title and

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he's not going to get the run and that he

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he fucked himself out of the opportunity by having a

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match that wasn't to Shawn Michael's liking when they met

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Speaker 5: So pathetic.

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Speaker 14: And this the same Vader who has, you know, a

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fate intertwined with Sids from the Tag Team in WCW

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in ninety three, to sure being the guy that tried

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to help close the wound and the stabbing incident in

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the England hotel room a hotel, I should say, so

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just remarkable that it once again comes down to Sid

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in Vader. They finally meet in the ring, and in

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Sid is the one that pulls ahead in the race

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to become the top guy in the WWF. And we

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all know, we all know how impactful that win was

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at Madison Square Garden in November nineteen ninety six. We

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all know what we tasted and what we felt, and

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we're going to revisit it here as we essentially serendipitously

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October nineteen ninety six, which is so true, and this

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I'm realizing as we go, this will make a really

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nice addendum to our ninety seven journey, which, as you

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will call, we launched rather stealthily by covering Roy Rummel

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nineteen ninety seven, without making any kind of a big

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production out of the fact that we were going to

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march stomatically through every pay per view WWF pay per

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view of nineteen ninety seven until we got to the

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Montreal Survivor series and you know we Sid gets short

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shrift in that Montreal story, right, Yes, yes he does,

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but he's there. He's kind of like, he's kind of like, no,

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he's not there. No, not not when the Survivor series happens.

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Speaker 5: But I'm talking about when he's yeah, when he's yeah,

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he is, he's I mean, he's a major part of that.

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Speaker 14: He's part of you know, the Sean Brett tensions that

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that spill from the screen to the back and vice versa,

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that they kind of revolve around Sid in this title win,

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you know when Sid goes away pardon me, when Sean

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goes away having lost his smile. It was supposed to

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be said that he lost the strap back to when

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Brett has his absolute breakdown in the ring on that

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famous Raw episode and says this is bullshit and shoves

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Vince on the ground and punches Pat Patterson. He was

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in the steel cage match with Sid on that show.

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fact that you know that the show we're actually going

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to deep introducing the first deep dive of the Sid

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tribute here. The next time We're with you next week

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on the Sid tribute the February nineteen ninety seven raw

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where Brett loses the strap back and it becomes very

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clear that it's not to be Brett and Sewan at

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WrestleMania thirteen, who does he lose the strap to Sid

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for sid second WWF Championship win. You think about the

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Alamodome and all the significance of that around the Brett

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Sean thing, and how it was to get Sean back

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into you know, pole position after so many fans seem

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to turn on him at that Survivor series. It's Sid

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and they're in the Alamodome with him as the nexus.

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I'm not saying Sid is the centerpiece, but he's there.

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he just kind of stands. They're all orbiting around him.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's you know, that's a leet. If he

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were if he were the Sun, if he were the

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center of the universe something like that, he would he

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no pun intended, He'd be just off in spacebsolutely would be.

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I mean really, as this all takes place, he's just like,

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we're I'm I going to get a run, Like he's

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oblivious to the fact that the only thing that matters

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is Shawn and Brett. Like this title when we're picture.

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Speaker 5: We're off it.

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Speaker 2: In this.

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Speaker 14: We're gonna play what About Me? Exactly right exactly. It's like,

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are you listening to the TV? We're about to march

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through it systematically. This is going to be one of

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the finer tooth combs of this whole Sid tribute because

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we want to really tie together Survivors Series ninety six

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and him winning the belt back for the show that

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we're going to deep dive the raw after the final

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four pay per view in February nineteen ninety seven. We're

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going to basically listen to everything Sid did for the

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period of time where he could have been framed as

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the top guy, as the WWF champion, and when you

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go back and listen to it, Boss, it's like they

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hardly talk about the guy.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he's nothing.

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Speaker 14: I mean, Sean Michaels is on commentary when he loses

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the time to Undertaker at WrestleMania thirteen, and the whole

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story is like, what if Shawn Michaels think about Undertaker

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versus Sid. It's not that Sid is main eventing WrestleMania,

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defending the title. Undertaker is about to win the title

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for the first time at WrestleMania. It's hardly about that.

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It's just about Sean running his mouth almost.

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Speaker 5: The entire second time. The second time at.

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Speaker 14: WrestleMania, I said, oh, oh, I see what you mean,

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and just running his mouth the entire time, like Sewan

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all the way through WrestleMania.

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Speaker 5: In fact, I don't to see what's problem is.

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Speaker 14: And when it's not Sean, it's Brett, you know, and

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his grievances and his feud with Steve Austin kind of

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overwhelming Sid's segments on Monday Night Raw as well. But

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we're about to transition. I'm gonna ask you a question.

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I mean, you talk about we talk about Sid kind

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of unwittingly being in the middle of all this when

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they make that fateful switch from the Monday Night Raw

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and the design and the graphics and the look and

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presentation from ninety three and switch over to Raw his

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War and that heart core look and presentation. Who's the

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first guy through the curtain on that first show?

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Speaker 5: Sid?

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Speaker 14: It's Sid. That's absolutely correct. Yeah, I mean, come on, folks.

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Speaker 5: It's just listen. He's he's just a weird He's such

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a weird entity that he's always there.

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Speaker 14: It's always there, and he ends up in these pole

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positions and it doesn't really ever seem to be quite

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by design. It's almost like happenstance, you know, like he's oh,

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totally You think about the pretense he was brought in

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in ninety one in the first place, with WWF about

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being this top babyface as Hogan's about to, you know,

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take a hiatus to get away from the scrutiny and

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do some movies. And by the time it's over, Yeah,

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he's in the Wrestlmini made event. But he's like a

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totally different presentation yep, than what we've been led to

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believe was in mind for him in the first place.

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And what actually is reflected in the way he's booked,

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not only in SummerSlam ninety one, but on that very

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first match we ever saw that he did in a

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taping against Teddy Biasse. He's like totally working like a

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guy who's going to be a world champion babyface, bumping

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and feeding and doing all that stuff, like yeah, definitely

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definitely feeding, Definitely definitely feeding. They bring him in to

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be a tag team wrestler in eighty nine in WCWNWA,

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and he just like absolutely captivates the crowd and pretty

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much is the main event of Hollyween Havoc nineteen. He

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is the main event of Halloween Havoc nineteen ninety but

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pretty much without any foregone plan in that direction. I mean,

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no one would have marked him as being in that

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position as recently as he had just come into the

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company his first national television run.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is the story of Sid.

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Speaker 14: He just and he ends up making all this money

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and he never really is the reason the money's being

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generated around him. But he's still there, he's still in

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the picture. He could still lay claim to being a

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key face of it all. And it's really it's a

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fascinating career and I'm positive we didn't spend enough time

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thinking about Sid when we did the ninety seven journey,

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and now we get to focus in.

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Speaker 5: Definitely did not. I mean no, there's no chance in

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hell that we that we spent any any real time

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on him, And so he talked about it outside of

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his matches. He probably got more, he probably got more

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attention during the dive of each show than actually you

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know 's actually talking about him.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely, and I think we spent most of our time

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just trying to peace out and tease out, you know,

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the subtleties and everything Brett and Sean said on WWF television,

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and how you can start to start to feel the

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kettle boil between those two. You can start to see

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the remarks toward each other get more pointed and more

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sort of out of character for a typical WWF microphone showdown,

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and you start we're just like doing a forensic examination

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of how the Brett Sean thing just fell apart from

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being relatively on the same page going into WrestleMania twelve

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to not even being able to be in the same

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room with each other by WrestleMania thirteen. And yes, Sid's there,

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but there's no way we spent any time thinking about

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what he did or what he said, and WWF didn't

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really either. I mean he is he let himself, I think,

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be tricked into thinking that if he did well as champion,

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that they'd keep the strap on him. You know, well

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here ' helim say that later and Bruce Pritchard and

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others have squatted that away like completely ridiculous. It's like

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you should have known the second you beat Sean in

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the garden, Sid, that it's all about getting it back

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to Sean or to somebody else. There's it's not about

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let's see how long we can run with Sid, and

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you know, to Sid's I think SID is defensible and

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saying like, well, I kind of got fucked there because

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no one ever really gave me a chance. Everyone assumed

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that I would get long in the tooth as a

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champion and couldn't be somebody that could be a defending

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champion carrying a territory for a while. And he had

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certainly earned that reputation considering how many contracts he'd walked

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out on by this point in time. It was not

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sound business practice to really, you know, build an eighteen

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month campaign around Sid or anything like that.

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Speaker 5: He might stab somebody in the fucking with scissors.

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Speaker 14: Right, But when he sits back and looks back in

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his career, in the shoot interviews and stuff that he

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ends up doing, it's it's not a bad point. Like

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I never no one ever really found out if I

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could have produced as a as a touring champion, as

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a guy that you know that was given the ball,

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It's it's not a bad point. I think we all

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know what would have happened. But he was allowed to

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basically look back on his career and say, well, we

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can't say for absolute sure that I would have crashed

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and burned because the second the belt was put on me,

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the plan to take it off me was already in play.

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And that's that's a weird position to be in. But

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it did account for him having, you know, his highest

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triumphs in the wrestling ring, and the moments that flashed

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right to mine first when you heard about his passing

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were this run, yep, this title win, and everything that

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happened around it heading into a Wrestlemandia thirteen and now,

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of course, the night after Final four, February seventeenth, nineteen

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ninety seven, Monday Night Raw was live in Nashville as

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the ras after pay per views still were back then.

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And what do you remember? This is the first time

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that WWF championship ever changed hands on Monday Night Raw.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I remember it like it was yesterday. Honest

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to god. It was such a it was such a moment.

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It's the first time that I can remember where I

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was so excited that I got up my feet with

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my arms in the air. That's big, I, you know.

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And that's when Sid beating Brett, you know, because I

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was so sick of Brett. I was so sick of Brett.

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And you know when I when I when I heard

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that he had won, you know. And again I didn't know.

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I think I talked about this before. I didn't know

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that he that that. I didn't know anything that happened

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regarding Brett and uh and Sean, Like I didn't know

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that Sean had fucking released the relinquished the belt. No

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fucking clue I learned about that on that raw. I'm

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sitting there wondering how the fuck did he become champion

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when Seawan was champion last week? Right, And then you

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hear about it and you see what happened, and it's

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like what the fuck? And yeah, and then I and

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then I was just like, oh, of course, you know,

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something fucking happens, and of course they go back to Brett.

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It's always fucking Brett. Here we go again. And I

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was like, they're never going to change the fucking title.

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They don't do that shit, They don't fucking do that.

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They don't put they don't change it on TV. And

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then when they did, I just it was it was glorious. Yeah, yeah,

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that glorious.

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Speaker 14: At one, two, three hits different back then where the

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ref actually registers an official count for a world title

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change on live television. I mean even even WCW they

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had done world title changes. I think when Paul White

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beat flair Ford it was on Nitro, for example. But

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for the most part that just didn't happen. You just

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didn't get title changes world title changes on free television.

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Speaker 5: You just didn't know.

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Speaker 14: And yeah, it was it was definitely as we'll talk

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about as we examined that episode of Raw, it was

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definitely like their strongest bid to be like, Okay, how

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can we format a show where like we drag this

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thing out and try to beat Nitro or try to

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do well against Nitro. I mean, Nitro was fucking killing

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him in February ninety seven. But you know, they tease

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it out. They pretend they're going to open that episode

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of Raw with the Sid Brett match, and then they

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delay it, and then they try to bring it back

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at the top of the hour, and then they delay it.

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This is a two hour it's actually a very it's

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a very clever.

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Speaker 5: Ratings ploy. Oh yeah, you know, the way that they

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the way that they strategize it, it's actually pretty it's

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pretty darn clever. Yep. You know, it's definitely it's cheap,

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you know, but it's also it's also pretty clever.

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Speaker 14: And that's another thing about Sid, Like, you know, he

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wasn't there when they finally caught fire and started kicking

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ww's ass, but he was a key toy in the

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toy box to try to figure out what does it

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look like to reform that Raw to be more competitive.

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He was a guy. He was he was a he

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was on that chessboard of guys they moved around, and

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you know, even though it didn't succeed, as we'll talk about, necessarily,

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this title win for Sid was I think a direct

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offspring of the fact that WWF is trying to find

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its way to compete against this WCW and Goliath that

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was forming, and I'm not sure, you know, I'm not

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sure Sid gets the belt. If those pressures weren't in play,

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I'm not sure they would go back to him necessarily.

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I think it was sort of chicken in the egg.

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It was like, we need something huge on raw. It's live,

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so it's not in the can, right, so we can

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actually make a call on the fly about what would

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be most unpredictable, And so Sid winning the title I

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think probably penciled out as one of the most impactful

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things they could do to see if they could make

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a dent on the nWo phenomenon. So Sid again kind

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of just like in an advantageous situation that really is

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really none of his own doing necessarily. So you wanted

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Brett to lose the title on this show because you

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were sick of them going back to him, not because

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he was now like two and a half months into

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crying about how Steve Austin was costing.

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Speaker 5: Him every ding. No, I wanted him to turn heel

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two years prior, if you remember, yeah, ninety five, after

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the during the World War I was like, I was

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ready for him to turn heel then, and I was

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just so sick of him. I was so sick of

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him always fucking winning.

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 5: It was ironic to me as a fan that he

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was whining about getting screwed and I'm like, you get

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everything fucking handed to you. That was my opinion of him. Wow,

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that everything he fucking had he always gets. Like he

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was he had been the guy since ninety two, and

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I was so sick of it at this point, Like

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he and he always beat the guys that were my

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new Hogan, right, you know, he beat you know, he

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he didn't really beat Luger, but he beat Luger in

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a different way. Didn't get the fucking strap, you know,

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he beat he beat Diesel, you know, and and you

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know Sean losing, I mean him losing to Sean was

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a big deal for me too. But this was huge.

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This was huge because I just I had them. I

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was not accepting of of a reality that WW was

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willing to switch a belt number one that fast and

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number two on TV. Right, I was like, they're just

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not going to do that, Like, get the fuck out

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of here.

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Speaker 14: It's amazing happened because of course, after he comes back

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at Survivor series, the same show where said takes the

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strap off Sean that we've been talking about and beat

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Stone Cold and that comeback match clean afterwards, it's an

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immediate like campaign by Austin to just constantly sneak attack

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Brett Hart every single week. And so this is the

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beginning of that brilliant Brett Heel character who was justified

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in what he was saying. He was being wronged. He

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was being yep, you know what I mean. He was

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being cheated out of opportunities to get back on track cleanly.

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Because this guy made me happy. It made me happy

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that he was being wronged. And they got it that

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they leaned in. They said, Okay, even though on paper,

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Brett's the one on the right here, the people actually

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are responding strongly when Sean, when Steve Austin does this

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to Brett. So maybe Brett should just start being a

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cry baby as opposed to somebody that has like legitimate grievance.

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He's not the guy who's going to just turn the

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other cheek. He's the guy because I already felt that

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he was entitled right and so now he, like you said,

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they're leaning into that they're actually having him be, you know,

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00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,720
play an entitled bitch. And if you don't think that

475
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,680
part of the psychology here, part of the psyche here

476
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,680
is Vince knowing that he just gave Brett a fatter

477
00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:28,440
contract than he ever thought he'd ever have to give

478
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,440
a rest and that that's not kind of bleeding into

479
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,640
how they're presenting Brett, then you've got another thing coming.

480
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,960
I mean, Brett even picked up on the fact that

481
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,720
after that Survivors Series match, which was a great match,

482
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,720
they start talking on television like Brett started to look

483
00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:44,200
a little tired, started to look a little rusty, started

484
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,960
to look like perhaps his better days were behind him.

485
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,279
It immediately as soon as they signed that contract. I

486
00:22:49,319 --> 00:22:52,519
feel like the process begins in the way Vince's mind works,

487
00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:55,640
The process begins of trying to find flaws that don't

488
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,279
justify that paycheck. You know, of course he's seeing everything

489
00:22:59,319 --> 00:23:00,759
not through the lens of what is Brett Heart doing

490
00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:04,119
out there, but his Brett Heart doing enough to justify

491
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,720
what he was able to back me into a corner

492
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,480
and force me to essentially pay him.

493
00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 5: Honestly, there's nobody who could you know, live up to.

494
00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 14: That well, especially considering how poor the company's fortunes were

495
00:23:16,039 --> 00:23:18,000
at the time. I mean, Austin was up to the

496
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,880
task because he started generating revenue on par with no

497
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,640
other and it's like, okay, well he's clearly running. But

498
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,319
this is a time when they're in the fucking tank.

499
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,200
And because Vince felt like Brett going to WCW would

500
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,559
have been like the final referendum on WWF's lifeblood, like

501
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,000
all right, it's over, Like they can't even keep red heart.

502
00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:36,279
He went deeper into his pocket than he had that

503
00:23:36,319 --> 00:23:38,000
twenty year deal two and a half million a year,

504
00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:41,799
whatever the hell it was. And and so it's it's

505
00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:46,119
amazing how suddenly within weeks Brett is a cry baby

506
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,799
on TV yep, and Brett is entitled, and Brett is

507
00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:50,559
whining and he's really good at it because he probably

508
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,400
kind of has a bit of that streak of his personality.

509
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,279
I'm sure they're like, oh this, you know them, it's

510
00:23:54,279 --> 00:23:56,599
always like, you know, the way the guy pisses them off.

511
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,680
Behind the scenes, they find ways to sneak that into

512
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,039
the television presentation, because of course, how they process someone

513
00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:03,599
being able to get to them is all right, we'll

514
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,720
just we'll make money off the fact that we can't

515
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,279
stand the guy.

516
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 5: I mean, look, he's being a bitch, so let's make

517
00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:11,400
him a bitch, put him on TV and right because

518
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,440
but Brton, I think you're a bitch, so I think

519
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,480
you'll play a great bitch on TV. Let's talk about it,

520
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,119
let's talk about let's brainstorm.

521
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 14: And when they get back, you know, think about it

522
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,000
a Bretton Sean, go at it.

523
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 5: It.

524
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 14: It's time that that's Sid. You know, Sid's in the mix. Sid,

525
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,440
that's his pay per view main event, was first ever

526
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,000
a pay per view title defense main event. So it's

527
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,920
it's uh, it's fascinating to adjust your lens on this

528
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,680
off talked about, you know, the covered ad nauseum time

529
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,680
period and adjust your lens to see it through what

530
00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:44,200
Sid was actually out there doing and what Sid was

531
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,400
out there saying. And that's what we're gonna do here.

532
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,440
As we enter a pivotal point in our examination of

533
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,319
the career of Sid, we do have to remind you,

534
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:53,960
of course, that this is all made possible by the

535
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,599
fact that there were listeners among you who aren't bitch

536
00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:00,799
asked motherfuckers, yes, who understand and that if you don't

537
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:02,039
pay for something, it dies.

538
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,839
Speaker 5: And there are people who aren't entitled bitches like Brett Hart.

539
00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 14: Right, well, we'll keep podcasting for you. We see you

540
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,440
out there, but you can hardly blame us for taking

541
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,519
the appropriate time each and every time we take the

542
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:18,279
microphone to remind you that the only reason TLFX is here,

543
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,920
and the only reason we can go this hard for

544
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,720
this long, is because people decide. You know what, I'm

545
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,680
not forced to pay for this, therefore I will, right, yes,

546
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,920
I'm not forced to pay for it, Therefore I will.

547
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,039
And patreon dot com slash the lapsed fan is the

548
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:32,720
way you can oil the engine and keep all this

549
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:35,799
going and get a ton in return. I mean, it's

550
00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:38,359
not just what tipjar here, folks, a ton in return,

551
00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:40,720
not the least of which boss let them fucking know

552
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:42,880
about it. I can't believe you made me watch the

553
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,519
latest installing in Scary movie Season under the cinemat.

554
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,519
Speaker 5: Terrified Too Motherfuckers.

555
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,599
Speaker 14: Starring Chris Jericho, but also starring some of the most

556
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,440
gory and insane violence I've ever seen in cinema.

557
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,839
Speaker 5: And not only that, but I also you know, for

558
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,200
those who who aren't a part of it, who who

559
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,960
missed out thus far. I also made him watch every

560
00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:08,839
single gory portion of the previous films, like the highlighted ones,

561
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,720
in order to build up to the fact that we're

562
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,839
going to see something even worse. Well, you need context,

563
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:20,920
right exactly. Of course, context is king and controversy creates cash.

564
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,880
And what was the story? What was it? Arisa?

565
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 14: He had a we did it. We made a fun

566
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,880
of it in t n H. He had like an

567
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,839
acronym for like story suspense.

568
00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 5: I'll find it. Oh he did, Yes, he did. A

569
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,480
fucking idiot, But we got one more when we're coming up.

570
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:43,039
We're going to take a week off this week and

571
00:26:43,079 --> 00:26:47,359
we're going to bring to you on Halloween Day proper

572
00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:52,640
and absolutely one of the best. And that's all I'm

573
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,200
gonna say. It's one of the best. And I'm I

574
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,039
am so fucking excited. You want to talk about SARSA.

575
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 14: You want to talk about story, anticipation, reality, suspense and

576
00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:12,440
action or surprise and action. Sorry, we're talking about the

577
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,240
capper for Scary Movie Season twenty twenty four under the

578
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,240
cinemat And.

579
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,519
Speaker 5: Then we'll bring it back and we will conclude our

580
00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:23,000
James Bond journey during November and inciting times.

581
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 14: Mpasize if you could. When can folks expect that final

582
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,839
scary movie season installment?

583
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 5: Halloween? Halloween Night, Halloween Day? Oh, Halloween. Halloween's on a

584
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,119
weekday this week? Right, Yeah, it's on Thursday.

585
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,279
Speaker 14: So you know what to do, solar system, Right, you're

586
00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:41,359
at work. You know, Halloween when it falls on a workday,

587
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,519
no one takes work that seriously, you know how to

588
00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:47,079
dial yourself in for trick or treating that night when

589
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,480
you're at the at the cubicle.

590
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 5: Bring That's all I gotta say is bring those fucking earbuds.

591
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:55,039
Speaker 14: Yeah, make sure those sons of bitches are charged. On

592
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:55,880
All Hallows Eve.

593
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,519
Speaker 5: It's going to be It's I can't wait. I honestly,

594
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:03,359
I can't wait for your reaction. That's what I can't

595
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,960
wait for. That's gonna be the fun part.

596
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,839
Speaker 14: Yeah, don't forget folks, I don't know the movie.

597
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I keep it a very very very deep,

598
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:14,640
dark secret until we reveal it. It's actually kind of

599
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,359
funny because in a weird way, they all know the

600
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,920
movie before you know the movie, because obviously the movie

601
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,880
is must I'm going like for a complete surprise. The

602
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,519
movie obviously is in the episode title, and then you know,

603
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:31,240
then you get surprised, right right. It's really cool. It's

604
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,960
actually fun. I always like that about it me too. Yeah.

605
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,759
Speaker 14: I love not really knowing what I'm prepared for. I

606
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:39,920
remember when you surprised me last Christmas movie season with

607
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,960
It's a Wonderful Life, Yeah, and I like basically had

608
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,839
to say hold on and I had to run upstairs and

609
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,279
get my It's a Wonderful Life book because I have

610
00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:52,319
no idea. I'm like hustling looking through the bookcase. So

611
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,000
I can't wait for that too. I mean, that's that's

612
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,200
too far around the corner.

613
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:58,839
Speaker 5: It's right there, It's right there. Cap off the Bond

614
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,440
Journey Christmas movie. I mean, come on, folks, what the

615
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,119
fuck is wrong with you? Like, just you know what

616
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:04,480
to do?

617
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:09,039
Speaker 14: And further to the Christmas point, by the way, that

618
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,440
seriously fuck you for terrifier too. I cannot I saw

619
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,960
the art the clown mask in a Halloween store and

620
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:16,440
I was like.

621
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't unsee that shit. It's all over the place.

622
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 14: I'm standing in the aisle in a trance looking at

623
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,240
his mask like I'm four years old again.

624
00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a petrifying individual petrifying.

625
00:29:28,319 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 14: And I'm like thinking to myself, like, when is it

626
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,039
ever okay to show that to somebody else? You know,

627
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:35,480
like even an adult, I'd hesitate to say you need

628
00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:35,880
to see this.

629
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 5: It's almost like I've got a friend who, like he'd

630
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,839
never seen it before, he'd never seen any of them before.

631
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,920
And he had a buddy who was like, I want

632
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,519
to take you to go see Terrifier three, but you

633
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:50,559
got to watch the other ones to get up to speed,

634
00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:55,839
and he was just completely grossed out by how nasty

635
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:56,839
it was.

636
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 14: Was he just actually hesitant to even go to the

637
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,039
theater and see it.

638
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:02,319
Speaker 5: No, no, he wanted to, but he was worrying, why

639
00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:04,440
why do I want to go?

640
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,799
Speaker 14: It's not unlike wrestling. It's like a secret language of like,

641
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,839
you know, terrifier. Yeah, Like you have to look at

642
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,640
someone and be like, Okay, they enjoy it for what

643
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,920
it is, and they're not going to judge me when

644
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,440
I you know, when I tell them that I watched it,

645
00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:18,759
you know.

646
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,079
Speaker 5: And it's also like once you know, you know, situation

647
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:25,640
if you know you know, and that's that's it with Terrifying.

648
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,799
Speaker 14: Well, the key scene from part one that you made

649
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:29,799
me watch from the first movie.

650
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 16: You know.

651
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 14: I was talking to people saying, like, did you see

652
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:34,000
the scene in the first one? You have to see

653
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,799
you have say anything else. Either they know or they don't,

654
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:41,279
And if they don't, it's not really appropriate to start

655
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:41,920
describing it.

656
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 5: No, it's not. But if they do, it's like they've

657
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,000
It's like it's shared trauma, is what it is.

658
00:30:49,119 --> 00:30:52,759
Speaker 14: It's shared trauma. And it's something that was full on,

659
00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:58,000
full throttle lap serendipity in that people started putting together

660
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:02,200
in real time that this qualify just as we had

661
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,759
made plans already to record it.

662
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 5: And let me tell you, so that was actually planned.

663
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:14,880
So keep in mind everything that has happened on Scary

664
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,960
Movie Season this year was intended for last year because

665
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,160
but then I booked that play and I just I

666
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,960
didn't have time to put it all together. But all

667
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,799
this was scheduled for last year, so it was like

668
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,359
already there, and it was already in place, and I

669
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,400
was already set to go, and then I had to

670
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,039
push it off. I'm like, all right, well, well, just you know,

671
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:37,160
I'll push it off to next year. So Terrifier too

672
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,119
was in play last year. Amazing let alone the fact

673
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:45,480
that there's a sequel out right now, you know, that's

674
00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:48,000
also the kicker, that there's a fucking sequel out as

675
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:50,119
we're you know, as we were recording it, I had

676
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:52,599
no fucking idea there was a sequel being made.

677
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,319
Speaker 14: It's it's not for the faint of heart. No, it's

678
00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:58,599
not one that I encourage people to watch the movie

679
00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:01,039
as we watch it with us. I mean, for some

680
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,880
our description will be plenty, but you know, do so.

681
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 5: For some even if you. Some of the comments too

682
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,720
were like, you know, I thought that just listening to

683
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:12,480
the audio would be okay, But it's as bad. It's

684
00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:13,880
as bad. It's as bad.

685
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,079
Speaker 14: Ye when you hear like the suffering and the screaming

686
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,960
absolutely and the blood chortling noises.

687
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:35,839
Speaker 1: It's the La Fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that

688
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,440
knows the boys need their candy. It's the lapsed Fan.

689
00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:58,039
He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno

690
00:32:58,519 --> 00:32:59,440
m JP soro.

691
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

692
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 14: And that's another thing, the comments like we don't sell

693
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,240
that enough. So much fun to watch Solar System members

694
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,839
go back and forth on comments underneath the audio files

695
00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:11,960
on Patreon, but you can't really participate in unless you pledge.

696
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,240
But it's so fun man to see what people pick

697
00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:17,680
up on some of the notes people make, some of

698
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,839
the corrections, some of the extra resources people point you to.

699
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,359
It's like, so it's so gratifying to do all that

700
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,680
work to put it out and then everyone just picks

701
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,480
up the ball and tries to make it even better.

702
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's amazing. So it's absolutely amazing. It's so

703
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,759
it is very gratifying when all that happens.

704
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 14: It's how we know it's real and long may continue.

705
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,759
And it's a busy schedule because on the monthly premium

706
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:45,279
live event calls that we do of the modern WWE shows,

707
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:48,119
that's starting to kick into a year. On another level,

708
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,680
you've got Crown Jewel and you've got sur River Series November.

709
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,960
Of course, the River Series always a big show right

710
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,160
around Turkey Day, so I'm sure we're going to be

711
00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:58,160
fat and happy going into that one. It looks like

712
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,880
they're going to do the Saturday Night's Main Event as

713
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,240
a December p l E the return of snm E,

714
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,279
so that that qualifies.

715
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it does. Live College doesn't. Uh Yeah, Live College indeed,

716
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,519
Live College Podcast. You're damn right, So we're looking forward

717
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:20,239
to that. As mentioned, Scary movie season becomes James Bond

718
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,320
conclusion becomes Christmas movie season.

719
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 14: Oh yes, Wrestle Mamia. Wrestle Mamia. Wrestle Mamia for the

720
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,440
moat tier. Only the things that are coming, the things

721
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,519
that are about to be unloaded.

722
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 5: It's it's it's a non stop barrage of of of

723
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:36,800
Mama sorrow.

724
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 14: Yeahther around the hearth with Mama sorrow this holiday season.

725
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,159
I mean, what more can I say? I don't know,

726
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:44,719
but I'll try to say more. How about that versions you.

727
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 5: Know, she's she's a she's a gem. Some people have

728
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,039
called her a national treasure. It's saying they're wrong. I

729
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:56,320
think that's hilarious to say. But I'm not saying. You know,

730
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,960
I'm not saying they're wrong. People would have just seen

731
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:02,679
let me see here, I think, what's the moment. Okay,

732
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,440
so people, oh wow, you know this? Uh, this is

733
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,519
I actually did this. I'm trying to think, Yeah, I

734
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:21,639
did this before before we were doing Terry Funk, all right,

735
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,000
and I had, you know, with the idea of Halloween

736
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:35,960
themed matches throughout October. I had my mom watch Rick

737
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:38,159
Flair and Sting versus Terry Funk in the Great Moda

738
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,800
Wow from Halloween Havock.

739
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 14: I'll wait to see her reaction to the electrified cage. Yeah,

740
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,599
I'm electrified of the thought. And again, for those unaware,

741
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:50,239
that is an exclusive benefit for our Mote Tier members,

742
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,320
the highest tier members. It's it's rich for a lot

743
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,480
of people's blood, and we respect that and appreciate that.

744
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,880
We appreciate all of our patrons in any denomination, but

745
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,079
that's a special group that deserves special treatment. And Mama

746
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:05,400
Sorrow says everything a mother should say while watching professional

747
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,280
wrestling with her son.

748
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 5: That's what I'll say.

749
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,159
Speaker 14: And if that's your if that's something that appeals to you,

750
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:12,679
if you know kind of what we're saying when we

751
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,159
say that, you might want to even just sample the

752
00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:17,079
vote Tier to get to get a flavor of what's

753
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:20,360
going on with Wrestle Mamia. But add free versions.

754
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:20,519
Speaker 5: Of the show.

755
00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:22,559
Speaker 14: You get deep dives or part twos a day before

756
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:27,320
anybody else does. There's absolutely no arguing the utility of it,

757
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,719
and we thank everybody deeply for their support. On on

758
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:35,440
patreon dot com slash the Lapsed Fan. There is also

759
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,159
there's also I don't know there there's there's an anticipation

760
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,039
in the year there's a big vote coming up, is

761
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:47,280
there not. Yes, there is probably the most important vote

762
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,079
of most of our lifetimes. I would agree it's the

763
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:54,400
most important vote. It is the tlf X Games King

764
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,480
of the Cast. We are down to four competitors to

765
00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:00,840
determine the greatest character in the history of the Lapsed

766
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,880
Fan podcast has voted on via X by all of

767
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,320
you out there in listenership land. It has come down

768
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,679
colapsed Jesse Ventura versus lapsed Kevin Nash on one side,

769
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,519
and on the other side, lapsed tell In Hart versus

770
00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:19,440
lapsed Vince. And we've already delivered somewhat of a sizzle

771
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,719
reel to the feed for those that are trying to

772
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,840
get a flavor from Highlights Pass. And I was crying

773
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,480
listening to some of them, crying listening back to some

774
00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:30,920
of the things, some of the words we have put

775
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,000
in those characters' mouth sposs over the years.

776
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 5: I actually I'm always you know, I always say, and

777
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,039
we've said it a million times that with how how

778
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:46,880
long these shows go and how long we record, that

779
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:49,800
shit literally comes out of the mouth and it's forgotten.

780
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:52,840
That's just the way it is, just the nature of

781
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,079
the beast. It's very rare that something and actually most

782
00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:02,760
often something reads not because we did it, but because

783
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,440
it resonates with all of you.

784
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 14: And we hear about it. It comes back to us. Right,

785
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,960
It's a great it's a great mechanism to determine like

786
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,119
what really what really was gold is? Like do we

787
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:14,960
hear about it again?

788
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 5: Yep? And I I I was, I sat there like

789
00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:27,960
I cannot. I mean, honestly, it was. It was hard

790
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,000
choosing things because you're like, well, wait a minute, there's this,

791
00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:36,760
and then I'm I didn't know where to go. Sometimes

792
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,239
well you go.

793
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:39,079
Speaker 14: In thinking, you know, you go in thinking, you know

794
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,519
the high points based on what gets set back to

795
00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:43,639
you the most, what gets referenced back to you the most,

796
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,519
if you know, like a Twitter thread about what's the

797
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:47,440
greatest thing or what should I start? If I getting

798
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,679
into the podcast and those things, and over time those

799
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,519
kind of cows find your mind. It's like, okay, like

800
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,880
we'll put it to the people, like it's not my

801
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,480
sense of what the best stuff was, it's what do

802
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:59,199
people always mention when I asked independent of us and

803
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:00,639
and then you get in you'll wait a minute, But

804
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,559
this is not one of those. And this is funnier

805
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:04,719
than all that shit. Yeah yeah, and I totally forgot

806
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,599
about it, and the listenership didn't put it on the

807
00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:09,719
mount rushmore and it's like this is fun this is better.

808
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 5: Or or to the point that I didn't even know

809
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,000
this existed. That's the part that's always.

810
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 14: Well, that's part of why it's better is because you

811
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,119
don't even know where. You forgot where it's going. It's

812
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:20,719
new to you even though you said it. Yeah, I

813
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,159
mean you got to think about sometimes us like getting

814
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:26,320
delirious at two thirty in the morning, like we're we're

815
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,719
not always uh, we don't always have full control of

816
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,159
our faculties. No, And I'm not only just talking about

817
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:35,199
when Boss gets drunk and falls asleep on the live calls.

818
00:39:35,559 --> 00:39:39,320
I'm talking about just any old regular episode of the

819
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,599
show where we're just marching through all the material we've

820
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:43,559
prepared and it gets us, it gets a little ridiculous,

821
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:43,840
you know.

822
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it does. You know, there comes a moment

823
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:50,760
where it's like I don't even you know, I'm just gone.

824
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,719
I'm just completely gone, and like simpy, like say, and

825
00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:56,679
you know it's it's uncontrollable.

826
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 14: It's uncontrollable and U and we had a great time.

827
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,880
We're visiting all of that and kind of resurfacing kind

828
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,920
of the heart of some of these characters. You know,

829
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,360
it would have been way too tall of in order

830
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,320
to do that with all thirty two participants in the

831
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,440
very beginning of this tournament, but we've whittled it down.

832
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:15,719
Now is the time to buckle in and make a

833
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,320
real decision here and keep it locked to our X

834
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,039
account and our socials for information on when the vote's

835
00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:23,440
going to drop and when you're going to get your

836
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,719
chance to decide who the final two are. I mean,

837
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,719
it doesn't get more t LFX than this, It really

838
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,760
does not. And we need to send a hearty thank

839
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,000
you to our friends over at Garage Beer who have

840
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,400
helped make all this effort worth it to put together

841
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,760
this tournament for everybody and to deliver as we have

842
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,679
so very very appropriate and very exciting. As the X

843
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:49,800
Games continues, two unfold on X appropriately enough, and we're

844
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,039
heading into the holiday season and it's now officially starting

845
00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:57,239
to feel a little late. Just to send us yeah,

846
00:40:57,559 --> 00:40:59,599
the gifts qualifying you for the show. I mean, Boss

847
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:01,559
gets out that post office as much as you can,

848
00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:03,920
but I mean it's it's getting tight.

849
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 5: We gotta put it.

850
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 14: We gotta put a data on the calendar soon when

851
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,519
we're gonna get together around the Christmas hearth and open

852
00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:10,440
gifts from you the Solar System for the third annual

853
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:14,039
Lapsed Fan Christmas Show. The best fucking thing on any

854
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:15,880
podcast anywhere as far as I'm concerned.

855
00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 5: Absolutely, there's no question about it. I mean they're a

856
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:27,320
mix of of like funny, thoughtful, and ridiculous. That's perfectly

857
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,119
and what more, what more do you need?

858
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,159
Speaker 14: That's a lapsed Christmas to me? Yeah, dare I say

859
00:41:33,159 --> 00:41:39,639
elapsed Xmas brother ten years in? I mean that's what

860
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:43,639
we're looking at. Damn right, tlf X mess I'm here,

861
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,760
Damn right, you're here, and you can be part of

862
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,920
the show as we sit together, uh to unwrap gifts

863
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,880
from the Solar System and just react to what we're

864
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,039
seeing and just revel on the fact that you know,

865
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:55,599
I think more than anything, it's not that this is

866
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:58,480
the greatest thing on any podcast. It it speaks to

867
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:00,679
the power of podcasting more than than any other thing.

868
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,280
I think you could you could record agreed, because this

869
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,840
is all made possible by the fact that we've taken

870
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,599
to the mic and had had You know, we're given

871
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:12,199
reasons to believe that if we kept going we would

872
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,679
find kindred spirits out there. We would find people who

873
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:18,239
were like, yes, this is what I need in my life.

874
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,239
Here's the proof that I mean it when I say that.

875
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,039
And as these packages come into the post office box,

876
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:26,880
it's just such a such a heartwarming reminder that we

877
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,400
are doing something that that really brings the good out

878
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,280
in people and the best out. Yeah, and again, please

879
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,000
don't overdo it like we've been blown away. And we

880
00:42:36,039 --> 00:42:38,719
all know that part of the magic of Christmas is excess.

881
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,079
But man, we don't need four things from everybody. I mean,

882
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:43,719
if you really feel you need to send it to us,

883
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,519
if you have like a you know, if it's part

884
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:47,280
of the execution of the gift, I mean, don't. We're

885
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,519
not going to discourage people. But man, we always end

886
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:50,840
up with way more than we know to do it.

887
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 5: Oh god, it's it's unbelievable.

888
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 14: You gotta remember we have to do something with this stuff.

889
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:58,159
Aver we parcel things out aboundst each other, we're like,

890
00:42:58,159 --> 00:42:58,800
what are you doing this?

891
00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:59,519
Speaker 5: What are you do with this?

892
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,199
Speaker 14: It's it's quite it's quite an experience.

893
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:05,639
Speaker 5: The consumables are one thing I'll accept and accept and

894
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:08,159
really accept the fact that some ship's going to get

895
00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:11,599
burned over time. Yeah, or that night, no burned. Hey,

896
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:13,519
you're going to send us a Jeff Hardy cut out,

897
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:16,320
a cardboard cutout. It's going right in the fucking fire.

898
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 14: Last year, boss Man literally burned a fat headset.

899
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,679
Speaker 5: I ever post that video on him. If I post

900
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,639
that video, you know I haven't seen it, so there's

901
00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:25,719
no way to take the whole thing. I should will

902
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:26,599
put that up around Christmas.

903
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:28,679
Speaker 14: Yeah, that'll be a reminder last year at this time,

904
00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:33,000
talk about the hearth, right, damn right. Maybe if there's

905
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,159
anything burnable we get this year, we have to save

906
00:43:35,199 --> 00:43:37,719
it and burn it during recording of next year, and

907
00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:39,639
that'll be our fire, our fireplace.

908
00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 5: Of course, that means I get to keep it great.

909
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,119
Speaker 14: And we know that came from the homie Big Steve,

910
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,480
who also gave us Jerry Lawler half naked with.

911
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, which got me almost in trouble with my wife.

912
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 14: I mean, he already told us that this one's a doozy,

913
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,559
and he's it's on the way. We've been informed and

914
00:43:57,599 --> 00:43:59,280
so if you want to be part of this, you

915
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,360
probably just have a a week or two to get in.

916
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 5: Every yeah, I will conveniently not make it to the

917
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:07,320
uh yeah, the po anytime soon time the par officer

918
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,119
of course, you mean, yeah, right.

919
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 14: The address to send us your Christmas packages is the

920
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:15,320
lapsed Fan seven to ten Main Street, south PO, Box

921
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,599
one one nine, Southbury, Connecticut, zero six four eight eight. Again,

922
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,519
the lapsed Fan seven ten Main Street, south PO, Box

923
00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:26,079
one one nine, Southbury, s O U T H b

924
00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:30,400
U R Y, Connecticut, zero six four eight eight. And

925
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:33,360
we really look forward to gathering around. And it's because

926
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,280
of you that we do it. You know, it's like yep,

927
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:39,599
it's guaranteed time in the same room, which creates creates

928
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:42,960
a certain podcast alchemy and magic that is very hard

929
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,079
to create over our distant connection here.

930
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 5: What we've been in this right, and it doesn't you know,

931
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,559
it doesn't happen as much as it used to. So

932
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:50,599
that's right, that's right.

933
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:53,679
Speaker 14: Life is life is intense, life is insane. But because

934
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,880
we know you mean business, we mean business. It's not

935
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,639
more complicated than that. So we look forward to that

936
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,960
and uh, it's stef only time to up the urgency

937
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,079
around getting in because I know folks really would like

938
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,800
to have their gifts in our hands so they can

939
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,800
get our in person reaction as opposed to, you know,

940
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,960
weeks later we connect remotely and then open it over

941
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,239
a video chat, which we feel obliged to do because

942
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,960
people were kind enough to take the time and send.

943
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But you are missing that magic window where you really

944
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get that organic reaction. So that's your thing. Those are

945
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your directions. And if you're starting to think about stocking

946
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stuff first for the lapsed fan in your life or

947
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things to put on your own personal list, we have

948
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949
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950
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Speaker 5: Over at Chopped Teas. Boss Yes, and.

951
00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 14: As we embark on a further examination on the life

952
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,760
and times of Sid, the Vienna shirts I think are

953
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,400
going to be a real hit this Christmas season.

954
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 5: Oh I think so. I think everyone's going to be

955
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,320
in the hunt for some Vienna's. Come what's up there?

956
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,119
Let them know come Christmas, we got a couple and

957
00:45:52,199 --> 00:45:54,639
you know, it's it's so hard to keep track. Two

958
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:57,239
of all, I have a list on my phone of

959
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,039
the things that I need to get to produce. So

960
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,679
hopefully before Christmas, all that stuff will be all those

961
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,400
shirts will be up there, so you guys can get

962
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:08,480
on it. Yeah, don't don't.

963
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,159
Speaker 14: Don't lose sight of the fact that in the Progresling

964
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:12,679
Tea store, this stuff is hand drawn by the boss.

965
00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:15,760
Like he Yeah, he personally creates the look of the shirt.

966
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 5: Yeah. And you know it's like it's it's it's good,

967
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,320
it's bad, it doesn't matter. But right now we got obviously,

968
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,559
we got Sid's Vienna's. We got Sid's actual Vicious Viennas

969
00:46:25,559 --> 00:46:32,880
sausages available, uh to to swallow. And we'll also have.

970
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,039
Speaker 17: The and I send him an autograph picture.

971
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,519
Speaker 5: And then there's a course, the the the Saint Vincent's

972
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,360
softball shirt softball team, which is the team sponsored by

973
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,119
Sid's Vicious Vienna's.

974
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:51,599
Speaker 14: Well, we definitely have Sid's Memphis Church in our hearts

975
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:52,840
and minds this Christmas squad.

976
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 5: Let's just say that for now, and not not to

977
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,400
mention the fact that we also have an old one

978
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,760
Sid's softball squad. Yes, that's an older bit ye sponsored

979
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:08,199
by Michler's Deli, Sterling Golden Pharmaceuticals and I am the

980
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:16,119
s m A. Youve got to need it, and the

981
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:21,199
incredible line of other uh uh with with you know.

982
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,800
You know what I love, honestly is that sometimes I

983
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,320
look back at the shirts and I'm like, I know

984
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,599
that meant something, but I don't know what, Like, like,

985
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:33,480
I'm looking a bit could have this one right here. Okay,

986
00:47:33,559 --> 00:47:35,960
it's a gray shirt with three p's on it and

987
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:43,000
it says Paradigm Partner Platforms. I don't know what I remember.

988
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,199
I remember like thinking, oh, I got to make a

989
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,079
shirt out of that, but I don't know why, Like,

990
00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:48,079
I don't know what that is.

991
00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 14: That's a mission for our pals at lasts, you know,

992
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,599
they can look that one up because it's it's hard,

993
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,119
it's hard to remember all this stuff. But yeah, sometimes

994
00:47:57,159 --> 00:47:58,599
it just occurs to us. It's just like making a

995
00:47:58,639 --> 00:48:00,519
shirt that was fucking that was a weird moment. And

996
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:04,039
sometimes it's a minute and a half that spawns a shirt.

997
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:06,159
Sometimes it's an entire journey that spawns a shirt. But

998
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,480
you damn right, definitely a lot to consider, and if

999
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:11,039
you're if you're looking for something sort of upscale and

1000
00:48:11,079 --> 00:48:13,679
price in terms of like you know, the kind of

1001
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,559
like specialty gear that you can wear outside of just

1002
00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:19,400
like a T shirt. You do need to check out

1003
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,800
our chopp stores. The Homie Dicky is just doing incredible

1004
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,599
work and the stuff he's putting up there is just like,

1005
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,239
it's so flattering to see a pail of that level

1006
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,440
and quality, from jackets to hoodies to hats, all that

1007
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,159
stuff is with the logo on it is amazing.

1008
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:38,159
Speaker 5: And to you know, be able to finally produce shirts that,

1009
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,559
you know, for reasons beyond our control, were denied by

1010
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,000
Yes pro wrestling teas and be able to have shit

1011
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:47,639
up there, that is just I mean, I can't. It's

1012
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,480
absolutely breathtaking to see the ship that he's created, let

1013
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,880
alone the Kreme de la Creme, the Piece the Resistance,

1014
00:48:56,199 --> 00:48:59,800
the Wonderful, the Wonderful Varsity jacket.

1015
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 14: As Bark uncovering the first Raw is War where those

1016
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jackets were created. That's right, so amazing stuff over in

1017
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the chop Tea store as well. Cameo if you want

1018
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,400
to put your co chairs to work, but mostly the

1019
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:16,000
boss yeah, honestly, and just you know, decide laps can

1020
00:49:16,039 --> 00:49:17,480
and put words in the mouthls of some of the

1021
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Rogue's gallery of lapsed characters, or just have your co

1022
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,239
chairman send holiday greetings or anything else, happy birthday wishes,

1023
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,440
whatever the case may be. Cameo dot com slash the

1024
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Lapsed Fan is the place to do that. And one

1025
00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:31,000
last piece of business on this front, shout out to Gabe.

1026
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:33,039
We've been trying to keep you up to date on

1027
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:36,679
Gabe's condition. You know, we've shared the information about the

1028
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,960
GoFundMe to help his family out as he went through

1029
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,400
open heart surgery. As we understand it, the procedure is complete,

1030
00:49:44,039 --> 00:49:46,599
he is home, he is recovering. It is a slog

1031
00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:49,039
I read a recent post of his, and you know,

1032
00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:51,599
the fatigue is unlike any It is unlike no other.

1033
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 5: You know, you can't imagine, I really cannot imagine.

1034
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 14: Just your home. You're recuperating, but you can't you can't

1035
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,719
behave as if you're back on track for a lot

1036
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,079
longer than I think people would probably appreciate having not

1037
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:05,440
gone through something like this. So the long and short

1038
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,360
of it is, we're we're thrilled that one of the

1039
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,639
great lapsed fans of all time is on the mend

1040
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,679
and came out the other side of this thing. But

1041
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,559
further do keep them in mind this Christmas season, and

1042
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:19,519
if you find it in your heart earn your wallet

1043
00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:21,280
to help, or help even more than you already have.

1044
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,199
Just go to Google, type and Gabe Yoakam go fund

1045
00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:27,519
me fundraiser Yoakum is yocum and see if the solar

1046
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:30,840
system can't help make it, you know, a successful Christmas

1047
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,559
over there for those fine folks. That's what we're about,

1048
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:37,760
that's what we're here to do. And the reason the

1049
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,559
reason we're in a position to call out things like

1050
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:43,920
that is because we podcast, and we podcast hard. Oh yeah,

1051
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,760
And I think it's time to pick up the most

1052
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:49,199
significant and medi part of the Psycho One's career, don't you, boss.

1053
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 5: I think this is what we've all been waiting for,

1054
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:57,880
the Revolutionary One. That's what Lutionary one too for them.

1055
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,840
That's when no one's run down. So yet I issued

1056
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,079
the call. I said, why do I think they used

1057
00:51:03,079 --> 00:51:05,880
to call sid the Revolutionary One on WWE television and

1058
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,000
no one's found any example of it, So I just

1059
00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:12,320
apparently made it up like VK Thunderliker as I do

1060
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,920
feel like you did tell me you made it up. Well,

1061
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:15,360
I had to.

1062
00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 14: I had to conclude that because yeah, I've never found

1063
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,199
I feel like I've watched everything back by this point

1064
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:23,280
that he did that I would have would have remembered.

1065
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,400
You know, I'm not saying I watched everything he ever did,

1066
00:51:26,039 --> 00:51:28,480
but I didn't watch everything back when I was that age.

1067
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,960
I mean we're talking seven eight years old, so there's

1068
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,199
only so many shows that would have left that imprint

1069
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,599
on my mind. Of course, and we talked about Sid

1070
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:40,000
in Vader at Buried Alive and in a shoot interview

1071
00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:41,719
that Sid did with our video he got he got

1072
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,360
more into it than we even did on the Buried

1073
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,239
a Live episode. In terms of how the Chess piece

1074
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,320
has moved around to put Sid in position to become

1075
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,280
champion at the end of nineteen ninety six that there's

1076
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,840
been I think people that have kind of poop pooed

1077
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,000
the notion that Vader was actually going to win the championship.

1078
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,519
I'm pretty sure Bruce Is kind of said on his

1079
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:01,440
podcast that the idea that it was set in stone

1080
00:52:01,559 --> 00:52:03,639
Vader was going to take the title and headline Survivor

1081
00:52:03,679 --> 00:52:06,480
series as kind of overstated. But that's not how Sid

1082
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,719
puts it and here's here's what's going to get us

1083
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,559
oriented heading into his big November ninety sixth victory.

1084
00:52:13,159 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'll give you. You know, I don't think a

1085
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,199
lot of people remember this. What they call that was

1086
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:23,320
a tweener are in between baby face and hill, and

1087
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,599
that was somebody who could work with baby faces in hills.

1088
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,320
I was the very first one really to take that

1089
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,960
roll on when I won the belt from Sahn Michaels

1090
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,639
and what it was, I was told I was going

1091
00:52:33,679 --> 00:52:36,320
to be a baby face for extended period of time

1092
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,599
and after that he'll etcetera, etcetera. Well, you know a

1093
00:52:39,639 --> 00:52:41,400
lot of people realize actually that was supposed to have

1094
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,280
been Sean and Vader in that match, But I had

1095
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,039
worked with Vader in a house show at the Gardens

1096
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,920
prior to that and got such a reaction from the people.

1097
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,920
When I walked out, Vince was standing there. I knew

1098
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,960
without a word that he changed his mind. Who was

1099
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,199
going to be in that spot. No, they came to

1100
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,400
me said, we're gonna put this. You know, we're gonna

1101
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:03,639
Vader go over tonight because we'll go next time we're here.

1102
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,800
He's gonna be beating Hunk and then at the pay

1103
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,920
per view in Indianapolis, you'll put Vader over to, you know,

1104
00:53:11,039 --> 00:53:13,320
for him to meet Shine at SummerSlam. I said, fine,

1105
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,199
you know that's that's perfect, you know. And so when

1106
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,000
I walked out that night to the walkway there I

1107
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,400
looked in Vince's face, I knew it was changed. So

1108
00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:25,840
the month or so later, when Indianapolis get ready for

1109
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,079
the pay per view and they pulled me over the side, hey,

1110
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,320
things have changed, and I too, I told them what

1111
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,239
things have changed to.

1112
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,519
Speaker 5: I knew it. You know, you just get those kind

1113
00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:34,119
of feelings.

1114
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 18: Yeah, and you actually did the tweener role as well

1115
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,159
in the middle of the bratt Hard Steve Austin stuff too.

1116
00:53:40,119 --> 00:53:43,199
Speaker 15: Right and uh and that was that was a little

1117
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,519
you know for me too. As a hill when it

1118
00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:48,880
was just hills and just baby faces. I was always

1119
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,039
a twiner, especially up in the Northern market. I was

1120
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:55,679
always perceived or cheered, and the baby faces hated that,

1121
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,039
you know, having to work with a guy.

1122
00:53:57,599 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 5: You know.

1123
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,639
Speaker 15: And I don't know if you know this yourself, but

1124
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:01,559
you know, if you're a baby face and you got

1125
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,559
ten thousand people cheering, you got one person booing you,

1126
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,440
it really grows mine, not mine. It doesn't bother some people.

1127
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,960
I've seen people like Bill Goldbert just literally go nuts.

1128
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,599
Customed person shut up, I say, hey, man, And then

1129
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:17,400
he's working with me and we'd get north and more

1130
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,440
people doo him. But no, I always I like that.

1131
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:24,000
You know, as a Hill, it's acceptable, you know, you

1132
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:27,239
accept the cheers in the boost. But that was That's

1133
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:28,800
always been my favorite rose to Hill.

1134
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 18: Did you find that with Shawn when you are working

1135
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,679
with Sean back then, that he would get real frazzled

1136
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,480
when the crowdits are going nuts.

1137
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,679
Speaker 15: For you, not Sean, not Sean, notice Sean. Sean was up.

1138
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,679
I don't know if people know Sean as well or not.

1139
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,760
Sean is a real He's a giver. He gives out,

1140
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:48,400
you know, he gives to you. He makes me you know,

1141
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,480
like when we were Triple Threat matches me and him

1142
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,960
and Brett. You know, I'm not saying I said before

1143
00:54:53,199 --> 00:54:54,800
working with Brett was like pulling teeth.

1144
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 18: He said that in the last shoot interview.

1145
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, and Sean when he saw that me and Sean

1146
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,719
would look at each other. We just so I say, hey,

1147
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,880
we'll work around this, and Sean would go out of

1148
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,880
his way to really make me look super cool in

1149
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,920
the match. I do the same for him, and we

1150
00:55:08,039 --> 00:55:09,119
do the same for Bed as well.

1151
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 14: So Sid as tweener, I mean, this is the role.

1152
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,199
This is the ultimate example of that.

1153
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean, I mean I also I don't

1154
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,320
agree with him being the first tweener at all. I

1155
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,039
think I think it was definitely mashed the year prior.

1156
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 14: But you know, I mean, my fucking Paul Orndorff was

1157
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,679
a tweener when he was shooting with the Hogan. I

1158
00:55:28,679 --> 00:55:31,719
mean it was like, oh was he I don't know. Yeah, yeah,

1159
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,800
There's always been tweeners on the roster. It's just a

1160
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,960
question of who do they turn their attention to. You know,

1161
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,039
all it takes for a heel to become a tweener

1162
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:42,320
is have him do nothing different but attack a heel

1163
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:43,719
instead of a babyface.

1164
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 5: Right right exactly? Well yeah, or or to not give

1165
00:55:47,519 --> 00:55:49,679
a shit about either. One really is what it is.

1166
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,920
And in many ways that was like that was Austin too,

1167
00:55:53,159 --> 00:55:56,519
you know, in around this period. You know, he was

1168
00:55:56,599 --> 00:55:58,440
very much a tweener and people were getting behind him,

1169
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,360
but he wasn't a babyface for sure.

1170
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,639
Speaker 14: And that's another way Sids in concentric circles with this

1171
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:05,599
whole rising moment is that he's kind of a tweener

1172
00:56:05,639 --> 00:56:07,760
that's setting a bit of the table for the Steve

1173
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,920
Austin tweener in that he's he's kind of showing that

1174
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,440
the audience is out there that will cheer when somebody

1175
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,199
does something like hyper violent to a goodie two shoes

1176
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,320
babyface yep, and they'll go with them. And Steve, you know,

1177
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,760
when he comes out to wrestle Bret Hart on that

1178
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,960
same show, Survivors Series nineteen ninety six, he does have

1179
00:56:24,039 --> 00:56:26,880
vocal crowd support, but it's not yet. That Garden telling

1180
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,840
Vince like, no, this is the babyface or this is

1181
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,480
the guy we care about hadn't quite reached that point,

1182
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,559
whereas it had with Sid earlier in the night, and

1183
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:36,880
I think indicated that there was, you know, a stronger

1184
00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:39,159
It wasn't just contrarianism. It was like, no, this is

1185
00:56:39,199 --> 00:56:41,639
where the bulk of your hardest core fans, your New

1186
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,719
York fans want the company to go in terms of

1187
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,159
like structuring who's featured and whose babies and who's heels.

1188
00:56:48,679 --> 00:56:51,039
And that's a huge night for that reason more than

1189
00:56:51,039 --> 00:56:52,800
anything else. When Sid wins the bet and gets that

1190
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,679
kind of a response for doing it, even though he,

1191
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,239
you know, brings Jose Lafario in storyline of course, to

1192
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,599
the brink of heart attack and hits him with a

1193
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:01,920
television camera and does dastardly things to get there. No

1194
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,280
one gives a fuck and who who's doing that? To

1195
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:09,119
massive superstardom within weeks Steve Austin yep, just absolutely losing

1196
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:12,280
his mind, swinging anything he can get his hands on

1197
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,159
at Brett Hart and getting cheered even stronger for it

1198
00:57:14,199 --> 00:57:17,280
every time he does it. So it's it's really interesting

1199
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,039
to think about it that way. And then there side

1200
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:21,519
is straight up confirming like it was in Indianapolis, the

1201
00:57:21,519 --> 00:57:23,719
city where Buried Alive took place, that he gets the

1202
00:57:23,719 --> 00:57:26,239
word He said that when he went to the curtain

1203
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,159
there in the garden once and he realized the crowd

1204
00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:29,800
was with him, that it was going to be him

1205
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,039
and not Invader, and there was going to be a

1206
00:57:31,039 --> 00:57:33,639
switch of the plans there. Yeah, I don't think Sid

1207
00:57:33,639 --> 00:57:35,679
remembers it all the way down to what city he

1208
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,800
was informed of the change in plans if there never

1209
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,199
was a plan in the first place.

1210
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,599
Speaker 5: To build up Vader he does.

1211
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 14: Yeah, so what does he do? What does Sid do?

1212
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,159
He beat Sean at Survivors Series. And we've talked about

1213
00:57:46,199 --> 00:57:48,280
it before and it's only appropriate here in the Sid

1214
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,920
tribute we talk about it again. First the sights and

1215
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,440
sounds from the garden that night.

1216
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 8: And Sid was an opportunity here to finish it.

1217
00:57:59,559 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 16: S just marry it, finish it, it said, hits it,

1218
00:58:03,199 --> 00:58:03,719
HiT's over.

1219
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,079
Speaker 10: We got a new champion.

1220
00:58:20,679 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 4: I can't believe it.

1221
00:58:25,679 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 19: Let's sing tell out Sid.

1222
00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 6: I can't believe it.

1223
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 20: Son, don't say there's a new time w champion.

1224
00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:44,599
Speaker 4: But time I donna take care last.

1225
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 21: Don Michael's mother, n it miss Bettorn, this trainer, it's

1226
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:55,159
fully hood maybe having some serious medical problems here.

1227
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:01,519
Speaker 4: Shun is trying to help. Well, could he be maybe

1228
00:59:01,519 --> 00:59:03,119
more of a hindrances.

1229
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 8: And as you said, I certainly hope that that is.

1230
00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 22: Heart damage. Talking barely Kay walk Josey's heart because they damage.

1231
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:23,639
Jade is broken.

1232
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 16: And in the ring.

1233
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:40,079
Speaker 23: Stands the new World Wrestling Federation Champion, the man who

1234
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:45,599
now will face Wret the hitman.

1235
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 13: Heart that ghost said rules the World Wrestling Federation.

1236
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:58,679
Speaker 24: On November than seventeenth, nineteen ninety six, and Ladies and

1237
00:59:58,719 --> 01:00:04,679
Gentlemen Survivors series has been nothing short of extraordinary.

1238
01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:07,039
Speaker 4: We invite you to join us.

1239
01:00:07,719 --> 01:00:12,159
Speaker 8: On December fifteen, and Christmas might be coming early for Brent.

1240
01:00:12,679 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 4: They hit Man Heart who goes now one on one

1241
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:18,400
with the rating.

1242
01:00:18,679 --> 01:00:23,519
Speaker 8: World Wrestling Federation Champion Pacholl said.

1243
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 4: Who would have ever thought this would have happened?

1244
01:00:26,639 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: Anything? Anything could happen.

1245
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:34,159
Speaker 4: In the World Rustling Federation, as said Remos and his victory.

1246
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:38,079
Sean Michael said earlier that he would.

1247
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:42,199
Speaker 23: Do anything to retain the title and said proved he

1248
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,360
would do anything to.

1249
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:52,639
Speaker 8: Tell you the World Wrestling Federation Champion Psycho said.

1250
01:00:53,400 --> 01:01:09,639
Speaker 1: He the Lapstan Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows

1251
01:01:09,719 --> 01:01:11,079
the boys need their candy.

1252
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:12,880
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1253
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:31,480
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1254
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:32,880
and JP Sorro.

1255
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:39,559
Speaker 5: What a night. Yeah, and again if you would recollections

1256
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,320
of seeing that play out and hearing it again, Oh,

1257
01:01:43,039 --> 01:01:51,760
I mean I was disappointed in the fans because, you know,

1258
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,239
here was a guy that I was like, He's supposed

1259
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,840
to be the hero, you know, and what are you doing?

1260
01:01:59,159 --> 01:01:59,920
Why are you booing it?

1261
01:02:01,639 --> 01:02:02,159
Speaker 2: What did he do?

1262
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:04,519
Speaker 5: Why are you so happy to understand that. Why are

1263
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:06,119
you so happy when he lost? Did you hear that?

1264
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 15: Right?

1265
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:07,119
Speaker 17: Right?

1266
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:07,639
Speaker 16: Oh?

1267
01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 5: It's huge? And what do we talk about?

1268
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:09,559
Speaker 15: Who?

1269
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 5: Who's making the noise? The men, the guys, the guys,

1270
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:14,400
the guys.

1271
01:02:15,159 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 14: Yeah, yep, screaming over that one teenager you can hear

1272
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,480
go no is the ref's about to slap three.

1273
01:02:21,639 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's the thing too. It's like you got

1274
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:32,119
there is such a you know, it's it's it's younger,

1275
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:38,280
younger kids, Like I mean, I wasn't younger, I was fifteen,

1276
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:47,239
but you know, it's like these these much angrier, brutal

1277
01:02:47,719 --> 01:02:52,360
guys are like they're overpowering.

1278
01:02:52,559 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 14: Yeah, they want to see goody two shoes squashed like

1279
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,400
a fucking grape. Yeah, it's not just they get indifferent

1280
01:02:58,440 --> 01:02:59,920
to them and kind of jeer them a little bit,

1281
01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:02,480
like Hogan. No, they want to see them get fucking

1282
01:03:02,599 --> 01:03:06,400
murdered in that way exactly. And when the company gives

1283
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,039
it to them, they can't help but react in a

1284
01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:11,119
guttural way. Even if the company gave it to him

1285
01:03:11,159 --> 01:03:13,920
for reasons other than satisfying them, it's almost like they

1286
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,000
accidentally gave it to them in service of another agenda,

1287
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:18,639
which is to get the strap off Sewan heading into

1288
01:03:18,639 --> 01:03:21,679
WrestleMania plans, or at least to get the strap off

1289
01:03:21,719 --> 01:03:24,280
Seawan heading into the Royal Rumble and his native San

1290
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,800
Antonio at the Alamodome. Unbelievable. What a moment that was

1291
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,559
and what a show that was so consequential Servivras series

1292
01:03:31,639 --> 01:03:32,679
ninety six not talked about.

1293
01:03:32,679 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Rockage celebrated nearly enough as it as it

1294
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,800
should be, for what it for, what it what it

1295
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:42,000
really signified.

1296
01:03:42,199 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 14: How wild We come back around to it here on

1297
01:03:44,679 --> 01:03:47,519
on the eve of Saurvirora series season once again here

1298
01:03:47,639 --> 01:03:51,119
this year, and and the references made there to the

1299
01:03:51,199 --> 01:03:54,079
December pay per view where Brett, by virtue of beating

1300
01:03:54,079 --> 01:03:57,360
Steve Austin earlier in the show, qualified to face the champion.

1301
01:03:57,599 --> 01:03:59,559
And you were within your rights going into Survivor Series

1302
01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:01,679
ninety six to kind of expect it to be Brett

1303
01:04:01,719 --> 01:04:02,280
and Shawn again.

1304
01:04:02,519 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean, I don't think I even realized

1305
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,159
that it was. I don't think I even realized what

1306
01:04:12,239 --> 01:04:17,320
that Brett was the going to be the top contendent challenger.

1307
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,840
You know, I don't think I even realized that at

1308
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,199
the time.

1309
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:21,639
Speaker 14: I don't think they spent a lot of time ahead

1310
01:04:21,639 --> 01:04:23,280
of the show emphasizing that, but I think in the

1311
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,159
body of the pay per view itself they decided to

1312
01:04:25,199 --> 01:04:25,760
really lean in.

1313
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:32,199
Speaker 5: So it was you know, I mean, I was just

1314
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:36,760
I was I was appalled. I was appalled and just shocked.

1315
01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 14: And isn't it wild how you went from appalled to

1316
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,920
loving that same dynamic when it lit the fire under

1317
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:46,880
Steve Austin. Yes, your transformation was our generation. You know,

1318
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,960
we talk about the Attitude era as if like it

1319
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:52,320
was a generation after the one that we celebrate so

1320
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,119
much that really led to the record business. And the

1321
01:04:54,159 --> 01:04:56,360
fans of the late nineties were the one. They were

1322
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:56,719
all us.

1323
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 5: We were just older.

1324
01:04:58,199 --> 01:05:02,199
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's not different, same fans, same fans that remembered

1325
01:05:02,199 --> 01:05:04,559
it as like a kid thing tanemount to a Saturday

1326
01:05:04,599 --> 01:05:08,280
Morning cartoon, in the same category as Captain Planet almost yep.

1327
01:05:08,559 --> 01:05:11,599
And now it's like we're in a different place. Culture

1328
01:05:11,639 --> 01:05:13,199
is in a different place. We're looking for something a

1329
01:05:13,239 --> 01:05:15,199
little edgier, and what do you know, wrestling is willing

1330
01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:16,880
to give it to us. But it's the same people.

1331
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,400
It's the same group of fans. I mean, yes, there

1332
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,639
are new youngsters watching wrestling in the Attitude era that

1333
01:05:24,199 --> 01:05:27,679
weren't alive or were you know, babies in ninety one,

1334
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,159
ninety two or ninety But man, it was people that

1335
01:05:32,199 --> 01:05:33,880
were like, holy shit, this is what wrestling is now

1336
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,360
because they had something to compare it to. And when

1337
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,320
you're oh, exactly having that reaction to Sid beating Sean,

1338
01:05:39,519 --> 01:05:42,400
that's coming from a place of having learned what wrestling

1339
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,800
is supposed to be in the late eighties and early nineties.

1340
01:05:46,039 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess I would say, you know, in a

1341
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:53,920
weird way, that is that might have been a much

1342
01:05:54,079 --> 01:06:01,280
more significant moment in I fandom that I really give

1343
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,199
it credit for. Yeah, as we're talking about it, because

1344
01:06:05,239 --> 01:06:13,920
after that, I definitely paid attention more to what the

1345
01:06:14,079 --> 01:06:19,440
fans were saying, right and what people were reacting to.

1346
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:20,159
Speaker 26: Right.

1347
01:06:20,599 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 14: The reaction wasn't a give and it wasn't like, oh, man,

1348
01:06:23,519 --> 01:06:25,519
this happens, and of course people are cheering. I don't

1349
01:06:25,519 --> 01:06:28,400
even need to note it because that's logical. That's a

1350
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:32,239
logical reaction. But when people start reacting illogically, you're right,

1351
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,480
you start to pay a lot more attention to how

1352
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,519
the people are receiving it because you realize that this

1353
01:06:36,639 --> 01:06:40,519
audience isn't calibrated like you are, right, The truth is

1354
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:42,400
they're just ahead of you. They know where you're going

1355
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,320
to end up, right, you know, as as a maturing

1356
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,559
wrestling fan in that era. But it's a remarkable night

1357
01:06:48,639 --> 01:06:51,840
Sid becoming WWF champion for the very first time there

1358
01:06:52,599 --> 01:06:54,679
and you heard it at this Fiber series nineteen ninety

1359
01:06:54,719 --> 01:06:57,480
six and here he is in a shooting interview on

1360
01:06:57,559 --> 01:07:00,519
the whole dynamic of Sean Michael's getting boot is the

1361
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:03,920
babyface by virtue of that of that program in that match.

1362
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,199
Speaker 15: Yeah, you see, there's a big difference, you know, when

1363
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,719
you get everything inded to you in which I never

1364
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,719
got to push. I would run into a situation I

1365
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,159
see the businesses is bring a guy in, you'll give

1366
01:07:17,199 --> 01:07:17,719
them a chance.

1367
01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:18,039
Speaker 5: To get over.

1368
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:18,679
Speaker 3: I would.

1369
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,639
Speaker 15: I came in right away my very first match as

1370
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,400
man event. I know, you know that was my argument.

1371
01:07:23,519 --> 01:07:26,199
But give me time to you know, let me, you know,

1372
01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:30,960
go six months you know, as a just killing people

1373
01:07:31,079 --> 01:07:34,320
or whatever. You know, people like Dusty and only did

1374
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,719
with me. And that's how I got over, you know,

1375
01:07:37,599 --> 01:07:41,000
And it was like it didn't it takes more than

1376
01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:43,320
a week. It takes six months to a year. And

1377
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:44,880
I don't care who you are. I mean, I'm lucky

1378
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,880
I could draw money a little bit right away. But

1379
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,280
if I would get really the chance, and in my opinion,

1380
01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:53,199
if I was the baby face and we had really

1381
01:07:53,199 --> 01:07:56,159
built data up, I think we would do more business.

1382
01:07:56,239 --> 01:07:58,639
And the company's ever seen in a long time.

1383
01:08:00,519 --> 01:08:02,079
Speaker 18: Was was management surprised about?

1384
01:08:02,119 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 5: However?

1385
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,119
Speaker 7: You were in the garden, Oh I see.

1386
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:07,119
Speaker 26: See.

1387
01:08:07,239 --> 01:08:15,199
Speaker 5: Some of the agents cried, I love that.

1388
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 15: My gosh, you know, you know they were so upset

1389
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,399
for shot, I guess, but it was pretty funny.

1390
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:25,079
Speaker 18: It was like he was generally snapped at that point too,

1391
01:08:25,119 --> 01:08:27,720
because he was going around the house shows and going

1392
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,359
off when he was getting booed, because it seemed like

1393
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:32,159
at that point he was more and more. Was there

1394
01:08:32,199 --> 01:08:35,399
any resentment from him personally towards you. He never showed

1395
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,319
me to my face, you know.

1396
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 15: And you know, me and Sean I had pretty good

1397
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,239
relationships as far as I looked back at him. He's

1398
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:47,439
always courteous to me. I was was courtious to him,

1399
01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:52,960
respected each other, He helped each other out. He was

1400
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,520
too tired to do a meet and great I did

1401
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,159
it for him. If I was too tired. He did

1402
01:08:56,159 --> 01:09:01,159
it for me things like that, So, I uh, I

1403
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:04,920
know there was some kind of weird calls behind my back,

1404
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:08,439
but you know that that's always going to happen. And

1405
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:12,560
if you can't get that, then you shouldn't be in

1406
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:13,039
the business.

1407
01:09:14,239 --> 01:09:16,279
Speaker 5: What's kind of weird there? What hit your ear? Well,

1408
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:20,520
like it's someone doing meet and greets for Sean. It's

1409
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:24,399
like if he's too tired, It's like, well, if people

1410
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:27,399
are expecting you Shawn Michael's meet and greet, that ain't

1411
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,199
necessarily exciting when Sid shows, No, I mean it's better

1412
01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:33,119
than nothing. But I get your point, and the same

1413
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:37,279
thing with the other way around, like you know, yeah,

1414
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,239
I don't know that's it's well, you know whatever.

1415
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 14: And you know what he means by too tired, right,

1416
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,199
what getting later drunk and high? Drunk and high, yes,

1417
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:48,920
of course, not getting to bed till five thirty in

1418
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:53,159
the morning. So because they're mature adults, Well, I think

1419
01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:55,319
that's the takeaway. I think by the time we're done

1420
01:09:55,319 --> 01:09:56,800
with this tribut, we're going to realize that the business

1421
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,439
is full of mature adults. I think that's going to

1422
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,479
I think it's gonn be the big surprise revelation of

1423
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,560
this whole thing. Right, yeah, I agree, But there he

1424
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,039
is talking about how you know, the six month thing

1425
01:10:07,079 --> 01:10:09,399
and how captive a window. This is just of Sid

1426
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,039
getting the spotlight and giving us even a sense of

1427
01:10:13,159 --> 01:10:15,720
like what could have been almost and you know, no

1428
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,560
blowback from Sean, like yeah, because sew knew the whole time,

1429
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,600
then he's going to get it back from you, right

1430
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,319
he's now of course he's not going to consider you

1431
01:10:22,359 --> 01:10:24,199
a threat. You're just a nexus to get this big

1432
01:10:24,279 --> 01:10:28,399
moment in the Almaldome. So yeah, of course you didn't

1433
01:10:28,399 --> 01:10:30,479
catch the wrath because they never went with you. But

1434
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,159
if they decided to go with you past royal rumble,

1435
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,399
if they said Sean actually were going to put Sid over,

1436
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,279
Sid would have been a Sewn's biggest enemy.

1437
01:10:40,079 --> 01:10:42,399
Speaker 5: In the world. Oh absolutely, So.

1438
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,399
Speaker 14: Again we have this captive period of time where it's

1439
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,840
where Sid is the man, he's the champion, and you

1440
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,119
can reasonably, you know, start to talk about him as

1441
01:10:49,159 --> 01:10:52,319
like the most important person on the show. And in

1442
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:56,079
that vein the World Wrestling Federation produces an issue of

1443
01:10:56,159 --> 01:10:59,600
what they used to call spotlight. Oh yeah, what can

1444
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:00,800
you tell the people about spotlight?

1445
01:11:02,039 --> 01:11:07,520
Speaker 5: Spotlight was a it was a I don't know what

1446
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:12,199
you'd call it, but it was not a a regular magazine.

1447
01:11:12,399 --> 01:11:13,720
It wasn't a monthly magazine.

1448
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 16: Right.

1449
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 5: It came out maybe a couple of times. It might

1450
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,479
have been quarterly or maybe, I don't know, I'm not

1451
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,880
sure how often. It seems sporadic, but yeah, it was

1452
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:30,520
basically they would use it to, I don't know, highlight

1453
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,359
somebody that probably needed highlighting.

1454
01:11:33,039 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 14: Right, Yeah, it was basically you know they're not dead,

1455
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,479
of course, but you know when someone dies, like Time

1456
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,279
magazine will come out with an issue that's about their

1457
01:11:41,359 --> 01:11:43,960
life in Times, yeah, that'll sell because people are in

1458
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,720
the mood to learn about that person and you've taken

1459
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,680
their legacy. And when someone gets a massive push or

1460
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,840
wins the title, they would put a spotlight out to,

1461
01:11:52,359 --> 01:11:55,119
you know, lead fans to think about the the arc

1462
01:11:55,239 --> 01:11:55,720
of this person.

1463
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 5: And they even did Woe with Hogan for that matter.

1464
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,520
You know, they did them with Hogan in ninety three,

1465
01:12:00,079 --> 01:12:02,079
right when he came back, they had they had a

1466
01:12:02,119 --> 01:12:06,399
Spotlight issue right around the time, maybe a little bit

1467
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:13,119
after he had his first uh, his his return w

1468
01:12:13,399 --> 01:12:18,359
magazine issue. Did you pick that one up? Oh, fuck you,

1469
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,239
I did excellent, absolutely no fucking whim missing that one.

1470
01:12:23,319 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 14: And so just the fact that they would do one

1471
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:29,520
said something on you. Yeah, yeah, it's not really you know,

1472
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:34,600
small beans. They do it about We're talking Warrior, Hogan Brett, Demolition,

1473
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,920
Jake Deebers. They did one in an L O. D.

1474
01:12:38,279 --> 01:12:42,600
And Andre, they did some one of the Steiners and Diesel.

1475
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,680
You know, like, if you weren't it's very unlikely, if

1476
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,079
you weren't in contention for a belt in WWF, that

1477
01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:50,840
they would think about doing a spotlight about you at

1478
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,680
the very least. And so the one on the one

1479
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:55,600
on Sid, if I'm not mistaken, is the last one

1480
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:56,119
they ever did.

1481
01:12:57,159 --> 01:12:58,279
Speaker 5: No kidding, I didn't know that.

1482
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,039
Speaker 14: And it's a famous one because it's famous because it

1483
01:13:01,119 --> 01:13:03,119
has that picture of Sid holding a globe in his

1484
01:13:03,239 --> 01:13:05,680
hand of the world. Yes, yes, And that's a picture

1485
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,880
that's always circulated when it comes to like yeah, it's

1486
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,800
just a really colorful image and it's very evocative around

1487
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,079
like what Sid was and the character they wanted to

1488
01:13:14,199 --> 01:13:16,039
portray him as. It's kind of like, you know, master

1489
01:13:16,159 --> 01:13:17,520
of the World has got the world in his hands,

1490
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:18,960
but he's also got to look on his face like

1491
01:13:19,039 --> 01:13:22,159
he's like he's having a perverse enjoyment holding the world

1492
01:13:22,239 --> 01:13:23,399
in his hand, right.

1493
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,039
Speaker 5: As you should. Really, if you are the master and

1494
01:13:26,119 --> 01:13:29,039
rule of the world, you should have a perverse enjoyment

1495
01:13:29,119 --> 01:13:29,640
of it with a.

1496
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:34,359
Speaker 14: Really you know, uh, strange enthusiastic and wild expression on

1497
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,880
his face, very colorful look on his face.

1498
01:13:37,039 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 5: Oh sweet. Like we like characters, you know, big fan

1499
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:46,039
of characters, and you know, the larger than life individuality.

1500
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,119
So the fact they have characterization of characters, but we'll

1501
01:13:49,119 --> 01:13:51,319
get into that, because the fact that they did one

1502
01:13:51,359 --> 01:13:53,159
said something, but what they said in the pages of

1503
01:13:53,239 --> 01:13:55,239
it meant even more. And this is from the pen

1504
01:13:55,279 --> 01:13:57,439
of Vince Russo himself when he was writing for the magazine,

1505
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,960
still splitting his time between writing for the magazine and

1506
01:14:00,039 --> 01:14:03,279
running for television before you know, the full throttle takeover

1507
01:14:03,359 --> 01:14:05,279
of creative And so what we're gonna do is we're

1508
01:14:05,279 --> 01:14:07,600
gonna march through it because this is really this is

1509
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,399
a document that tells us, I think the most about

1510
01:14:10,399 --> 01:14:13,239
how WWF was thinking of sid in his place in

1511
01:14:13,359 --> 01:14:16,359
the pantheon when they strapped him up. And so here

1512
01:14:16,399 --> 01:14:20,239
we go through the pages of Spotlight, and I'll guide

1513
01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:23,000
you here a little bit boss in terms of not

1514
01:14:23,159 --> 01:14:25,399
every last thing that we're going to read, right, but

1515
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,760
there's that image on the cover. They're advertising the upcoming

1516
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,760
Royal Rumble and Vince Russo Boss has a word for

1517
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,720
readers right off the top letter from the editor, Well

1518
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:38,479
you should read that one.

1519
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,560
Speaker 14: In the history of the World Wrestling Federation, there has

1520
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:46,520
never been a champion quite like Psycho Sid, with one

1521
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,560
of the most impressive physiques in the sport today or

1522
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:54,039
ever for that matter. The man from West Memphis, Arkansas

1523
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:59,039
finally exploded his potential at the nineteen ninety six Survivor

1524
01:14:59,159 --> 01:15:02,840
Series when he defeated Shawn Michaels en route to becoming

1525
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,000
the World Wrestling Federation Champion. Up until that point in

1526
01:15:06,079 --> 01:15:09,760
his career, bro critics always knew that Sid would be great,

1527
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:16,000
but the question most frequently asked was when Sid first

1528
01:15:16,119 --> 01:15:19,560
entered the World Wrestling Federation in nineteen ninety one as

1529
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:23,640
a young man who was relatively new to the wrestling business.

1530
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:29,199
Bro later on, relatively Yeah, I guess three years experience,

1531
01:15:29,239 --> 01:15:32,920
four years experience, then that counts as relatively new. Really,

1532
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,720
later on he would admit that he may have been

1533
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:42,279
just too green. Both mentally and emotionally to be able

1534
01:15:42,359 --> 01:15:46,920
to cope with the big time. Immediately following WrestleMania eight,

1535
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,239
Sid disappeared from the Federation. This is interesting because they

1536
01:15:51,239 --> 01:15:52,920
didn't talk a lot about his first run when.

1537
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 5: He came back. No, not at all.

1538
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,399
Speaker 14: So this magazine is, you know, trying to do something

1539
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,520
that they didn't do on television, which is remind you

1540
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:03,600
that this guy had a prior incarnation, right right, and

1541
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,479
try to thread those two runs together from the Federation,

1542
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,119
only to return some three years later in February ninety

1543
01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:15,720
five as the bodyguard of Shawn Michaels. Once again. After

1544
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,920
only a short stay, Sid left the Federation in early

1545
01:16:19,039 --> 01:16:22,720
nineteen ninety six. Early nineteen ninety six.

1546
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,239
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess maybe he could have been January

1547
01:16:26,319 --> 01:16:27,479
ninety six he left. I don't know.

1548
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,159
Speaker 14: Yeah, he was off television, but yeah, I think I

1549
01:16:29,199 --> 01:16:30,960
think that might be right. He may have done how

1550
01:16:31,039 --> 01:16:33,960
shows until the beginning of ninety six. The third time, however,

1551
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,399
seemed to be a charm for the man now referred

1552
01:16:36,399 --> 01:16:39,359
to as Psycho. After returning to the Federation in July,

1553
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:41,800
this time to team with the former enemy Shawn Michaels,

1554
01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:45,600
a mature and season, Sid silenced all his critics by

1555
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,279
beating his ex boss at the Brawl Classic, thus becoming

1556
01:16:49,359 --> 01:16:53,239
the champion they would now call Sid. As of press time,

1557
01:16:53,319 --> 01:16:55,880
SID certainly does rule the world all caps, like he

1558
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:59,920
tweets today, all caps and how great this individual can be.

1559
01:17:00,039 --> 01:17:02,880
He is yet to be determined, I can say that again,

1560
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:09,319
however predetermined. However, one thing remains certain. He is the

1561
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:14,920
master and the ruler of the world. Okay, So we

1562
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,000
start flipping through and they do a piece going back

1563
01:17:18,039 --> 01:17:21,119
to Spring ninety one and the arrival of Sid, and

1564
01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:24,319
we see him in the Zebra stripes at Summer Slam

1565
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,720
ninety one, and they're talking about Slaughter and Hogan. They

1566
01:17:27,079 --> 01:17:28,600
talk about to Hogan when he's in WCW.

1567
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 5: They didn't do a lot of that now I remember

1568
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:36,800
in like ninety five ninety six they started really changing

1569
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:41,720
that and sharing talking talking about history and talking about

1570
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:45,039
people who were in WCW right and or at least

1571
01:17:45,039 --> 01:17:48,800
weren't even working for them, right. So they take us

1572
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,760
from there and they go through the match Made in

1573
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,880
Hell at SummerSlam and the interference in the wedding and

1574
01:17:54,079 --> 01:17:57,319
the feud with Jake, and then they go through of

1575
01:17:57,399 --> 01:18:00,359
course the nineteen ninety two Royal Rumble and show picture

1576
01:18:00,399 --> 01:18:02,600
of that with him facing off with the Hogan and

1577
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,520
auld they hear it. Let me see what they say here.

1578
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,239
They were things being a changer and the ciilmonated some

1579
01:18:08,279 --> 01:18:10,960
of his most hated enemies, even liminated Hall Cogan, a

1580
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,800
man he considered a frema. Sid was aware of the

1581
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,640
Rumos' most basic tenants. There are no friends. That is

1582
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:20,319
an event in which every man fights for himself. I

1583
01:18:20,399 --> 01:18:23,439
had the opportunities to get rid of Hogan, and that's

1584
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,119
what I did. I didn't care. I didn't care what

1585
01:18:26,279 --> 01:18:28,800
any would hear, anybody else would say about it.

1586
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,199
Speaker 14: You're calling me and that's a quote sort from the

1587
01:18:32,239 --> 01:18:34,119
old magazine. That's all I'm talking now.

1588
01:18:35,359 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 5: And then he talks about Yeah, they don't okay, they

1589
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:42,239
don't really talk about I'm surprised. Usually usually around this time,

1590
01:18:42,319 --> 01:18:46,000
if they were talking about Hogan, they'd take a little jab,

1591
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:52,239
like like he says he deserved what he got. Sid

1592
01:18:52,319 --> 01:18:56,399
says of Hogan, Yeah kind of, no, I guess, I guess,

1593
01:18:57,079 --> 01:19:00,720
but but it's still like they would they would say

1594
01:19:01,079 --> 01:19:03,840
like that Hulk Hogan was a coward. By pulling Sid

1595
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,560
out from Ah, you know, like they would they would,

1596
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,000
they would, they would kind of they would always belittle

1597
01:19:09,039 --> 01:19:09,640
Hogan a little bit.

1598
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,520
Speaker 14: This's what you're looking for, and it was the beginning

1599
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,439
of the end of Hulk Hogan. The man has never

1600
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:17,319
been the same since Wreslomania eight kind of. But that's

1601
01:19:17,319 --> 01:19:18,680
still not it Like, that's not hard to know.

1602
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,520
Speaker 5: They would they would have, they would have made they

1603
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,439
would have brought to attention the fact that the fans

1604
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,920
cheered for Sid right and boot Hulk Hogan right in

1605
01:19:27,039 --> 01:19:29,439
that that's what they would have That's what they would

1606
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,720
have done. But I mean, even but they do they

1607
01:19:32,039 --> 01:19:34,079
kind of go in gear and they say, you know,

1608
01:19:34,279 --> 01:19:37,960
downward spot on Hogan's career. Bloody, bloody blah.

1609
01:19:38,079 --> 01:19:41,319
Speaker 14: But and it describes the end of this run in

1610
01:19:41,359 --> 01:19:43,359
this article as days after the event wrestleming he Ate,

1611
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,640
without warning or notice, Sid vanished from the World Wrestling Federation. Vanished, Yeah,

1612
01:19:48,039 --> 01:19:49,880
and it says he went in he went into self

1613
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,359
imposed exile for the next three years until returning to

1614
01:19:52,399 --> 01:19:54,000
the Federation early nineteen ninety five.

1615
01:19:54,279 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 5: Would he go on an island or something?

1616
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,239
Speaker 14: Well during his hiatus ad reads many say that's when

1617
01:19:58,279 --> 01:20:02,920
he transformed into a complete, albeit popular psycho, and then

1618
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,319
they go through a period of his life where he's

1619
01:20:04,359 --> 01:20:06,760
the bodyguard of Seawann Michaels, and they recount all of that,

1620
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,399
and as we did last week, go through WrestleMania and

1621
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,600
show him in the vest and jeans backing up Sean

1622
01:20:13,279 --> 01:20:15,560
Yep and that big promo and the big heel turn

1623
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:23,039
and all of that, and they flash forward from there

1624
01:20:23,159 --> 01:20:27,760
to the interview with Keith Elliott Greenberg. And this is

1625
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,399
to get into Sid's head while gripping the Gold Eagle,

1626
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:35,880
the Winged Eagle WWF title belt. I'll be Keith, you

1627
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,760
b Sid. World Wrestling Federation Champion Shawn Michaels, reportedly at

1628
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,560
the peak of his career, had been dethroned by his

1629
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:45,680
former bodyguard Sid. Overnight. The perception of Sid changed drastically.

1630
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,239
No longer was the granite bodied brute, regarded as a

1631
01:20:48,279 --> 01:20:51,319
hot headed ruffian constantly threatening to but never succeeding in

1632
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,800
capturing the gold. Now Psycho Sid was the undisputed king

1633
01:20:55,159 --> 01:20:57,319
of the squared Circle, the holder of the most coveted

1634
01:20:57,359 --> 01:20:59,279
title in the sport of kings, the man for Michaels

1635
01:20:59,319 --> 01:21:01,640
and every other top contender in the Matt Wars to

1636
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,520
line up to challenge. As reporters clamored to question the

1637
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,279
new titleist, Sid took time out of his whirlwind schedule

1638
01:21:07,359 --> 01:21:11,159
to grant one of his first interviews exclusively to this publication.

1639
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:15,279
Speaker 5: Like you'd fucking do an interview for anybody else's publican.

1640
01:21:15,039 --> 01:21:19,159
Speaker 14: Right, like second or third right. A few days after

1641
01:21:19,239 --> 01:21:21,680
winning the World Wresting Federation Championship, you disappeared. No one

1642
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:23,760
could find you. When we finally attracked you down, we

1643
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,039
discovered that you've been hunting with your old buddies from Arkansas.

1644
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:28,239
Speaker 2: That's right.

1645
01:21:29,239 --> 01:21:32,039
Speaker 5: After all the pain and the sweat till to get

1646
01:21:32,079 --> 01:21:35,279
back to the top, I wanted to remember who I

1647
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:39,760
am and where I come from. I've been hunting with

1648
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,880
these same friends since I was a little kid. When

1649
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:47,239
I'm with them, I'm not the World Wrestling Entertainment Champion

1650
01:21:48,199 --> 01:21:51,920
or a guy whose picture appears out of magazine covers

1651
01:21:52,199 --> 01:21:58,439
in places like Japan, in India and South Africa. I'm

1652
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,800
the same guy I've always known, and it's important for

1653
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,840
me to face the people who've known me all my life,

1654
01:22:07,199 --> 01:22:10,840
through good times and bad, to bring me back to earth.

1655
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 14: It sounds like you were floating above the clouds until

1656
01:22:14,039 --> 01:22:15,159
you got back to Arkansas.

1657
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 5: Let me put it this way, how many people experienced

1658
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:25,039
a thrill of winning the ww Championship. One in one

1659
01:22:25,079 --> 01:22:30,159
hundred million, maybe fewer. Is something any kid who ever

1660
01:22:30,279 --> 01:22:35,159
turned on a wrestling match on TV dreams about. But

1661
01:22:35,319 --> 01:22:39,560
I was actually able to do it. It was a long,

1662
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:44,399
rough road with a lot of detours and a lot

1663
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,359
of agony. But when I got back to that locker

1664
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,920
room after running the title, I really felt like I

1665
01:22:51,199 --> 01:22:51,880
was in heaven.

1666
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 14: It's funny that you'd feel that way since it was

1667
01:22:55,239 --> 01:22:56,600
kind of a controversial victory.

1668
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 3: What was so controversially about it?

1669
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 14: Well, the way that you found Michael's weak spot and

1670
01:23:03,079 --> 01:23:04,319
managed to achieve the victory.

1671
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:06,560
Speaker 2: What do you mean.

1672
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:11,079
Speaker 5: Managed to achieve the victory as if it was a fluke.

1673
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:16,039
You know, I trained for a long time for that moment.

1674
01:23:17,199 --> 01:23:23,840
I devoted my life wrestling, and I earned that championship.

1675
01:23:25,159 --> 01:23:27,239
You want to know how I beat Michaels.

1676
01:23:28,359 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 3: By driving that with the bomb, Bob, That's how.

1677
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 5: By being the better man.

1678
01:23:36,079 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 14: But you also attacked his manager, Jose Lafario. True, That's

1679
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:40,520
all you have to say.

1680
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 5: True. What else is there to say it was my fault.

1681
01:23:47,119 --> 01:23:49,880
He decided to climb up on the ring apron in

1682
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,439
the middle match, But when I saw him on a

1683
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:57,560
ring apron, I made a choice to tour a negative

1684
01:23:58,079 --> 01:24:02,319
into more positive instead of letting him distract me, I

1685
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,560
grabbed the camera out of the camera man's hand.

1686
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 3: And smashed Lathoria with it.

1687
01:24:10,279 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 5: Hey, it's not like I was hitting some poor, defenceless fan.

1688
01:24:15,319 --> 01:24:19,279
Jose Lathario has one of the most knowledgeable minds in wrestling.

1689
01:24:20,199 --> 01:24:22,920
He knew when he was climbing up that ring apron

1690
01:24:23,159 --> 01:24:26,720
that he was putting himself in danger, but he did

1691
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,239
it anyway, and he paid the price.

1692
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 14: Then you hit Michael's with the camera as well before

1693
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:33,479
giving him a power bomb in scoring the pen.

1694
01:24:34,279 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not ashamed of that. Look at Michaels. Are

1695
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,840
you telling me that Sean wouldn't have done the same

1696
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,560
thing to me if he thought it'd throw off my

1697
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:49,359
game plan? You know he would. Now, I don't hate

1698
01:24:49,399 --> 01:24:54,680
Sean Michaels. I don't hat Jose Lathario, but you don't

1699
01:24:55,119 --> 01:24:57,199
get to the top of the world as he hit

1700
01:24:57,239 --> 01:25:00,880
a dam it by loving your coworker. There's your coworkers

1701
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,079
gonna step over your body to grab the big prize,

1702
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,199
so you get to the top, but out thinking the

1703
01:25:08,319 --> 01:25:13,279
other guy, which I did when I shifted Michael's mind

1704
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:17,920
to the Thario instead of the match, then blasted him

1705
01:25:18,319 --> 01:25:19,439
with everything you got.

1706
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,279
Speaker 14: Apparently the fans at Madison Square Garden appreciated your strategy,

1707
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,680
as I recall, they were jumping all over you after

1708
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,239
you won the belt. They didn't seem to have a

1709
01:25:28,279 --> 01:25:30,800
problem with your actions at all. Now, come on, weren't

1710
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:31,920
you a little surprised about that?

1711
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:36,399
Speaker 5: A massive square garden from New Yorkers? You gotta be

1712
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:36,920
kidding me.

1713
01:25:38,079 --> 01:25:41,359
Speaker 3: You ever been in New York? It's getting on the

1714
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:43,600
subways a fight to the death.

1715
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,279
Speaker 5: Well during rush hour. He's not wrong if you got

1716
01:25:50,399 --> 01:25:53,760
to elbows some Moosella Thario got out of the way

1717
01:25:54,239 --> 01:25:57,560
just to get a seat. It's nothing personal, just the

1718
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:01,239
way it is. That's a lot of the fans were

1719
01:26:01,359 --> 01:26:04,359
cheering for me. They know that I'm not some kind

1720
01:26:04,399 --> 01:26:07,640
of demon. I'm just a regular guy, kind of like

1721
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:14,760
them in an Arkansas way who saw an opportunity.

1722
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:16,520
Speaker 26: And took it.

1723
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 14: Michaels doesn't see it that way. He says, you attacked

1724
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,199
an old man and that getting back at you is

1725
01:26:21,199 --> 01:26:23,279
almost as important to him as getting back the title.

1726
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:28,279
Speaker 3: It doesn't right now what show Michael sticks does it?

1727
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:33,119
Speaker 5: He seems to forget that, Uh, he's not a champion anymore.

1728
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 3: I'm a champion.

1729
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,319
Speaker 5: He's the one who has to come to me if

1730
01:26:38,359 --> 01:26:41,279
he wants a shot of the gold, and I'm the

1731
01:26:41,359 --> 01:26:43,840
one who says the conditions, not him.

1732
01:26:44,319 --> 01:26:47,039
Speaker 14: Do you ever worry that under regular wrestling conditions, with

1733
01:26:47,119 --> 01:26:49,920
no cameras to grab and no managers, Michaels would beat you.

1734
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:55,279
Speaker 5: If I worried about that, I'd be in the wrong business.

1735
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,760
It's nice to imagine what the world singenterteam will be

1736
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:04,399
like if everyone stayed on the map, exchanging fireman's carries,

1737
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:09,399
hammer locks, leg grapevines. But we don't live in that

1738
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:13,840
kind of world. When Sid wrestles, he uses the whole

1739
01:27:14,279 --> 01:27:19,960
arena as a weapon, the ring, steps, the guardrail, the cameras,

1740
01:27:20,159 --> 01:27:26,399
stannuncer's table, So Seawn Michaels. So it's the undertaker, so

1741
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:30,560
does Brett Hart. Now I've heard people say that the

1742
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:34,880
world of sing entertainment is a place without rules, but

1743
01:27:35,039 --> 01:27:39,159
I disagree with that. Today the world was sing entertainment

1744
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:45,600
is a place operated under Sid's rules. That's why I

1745
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:50,840
want the belt, and that's well, I'll be champion as

1746
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:56,880
long as I want to be amazing. By the way,

1747
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:00,840
he looks like an absolute bitch. Where that fucking painters

1748
01:28:01,079 --> 01:28:05,880
idiot baseball cap the painter's cap he used to wear

1749
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,319
for some reason though, Oh, he's such a fucking I

1750
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,560
don't know what the deal was with that thing, but

1751
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:12,760
he would wear it backwards like a little boy all

1752
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:16,920
the time, all the time. It's not softball season all

1753
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:18,520
the time, you know, fucking moron.

1754
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,359
Speaker 14: They want to give us a wider sense of the man.

1755
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:22,960
And after the article is about you know, beating on

1756
01:28:23,119 --> 01:28:25,439
Sean and winning its arrivs. Series, we go to page

1757
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,520
twenty four to twenty six of the file here and

1758
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,239
the article is entitled when He's Sane Psycho. Sid is

1759
01:28:32,279 --> 01:28:33,359
a man of contradictions.

1760
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:34,319
Speaker 5: Uh oh.

1761
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 14: In the ring, he is fearless and utterly ruthless. He

1762
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,399
never takes a backwards step, and he's always on the offensive,

1763
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,159
splattering opponents like Vader and gold Dust with alarming ease.

1764
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,439
During interviews, sid sinister look and vocal outbursts have been

1765
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,439
enough to dissuade most athletes from wrestling him. Yet beyond

1766
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,600
the glitter and the glitz of the World Wrestling Federation,

1767
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,640
Psycho Sit is a man of reserve, a man of patients,

1768
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,039
and a man who has a fond appreciation and respect

1769
01:28:57,359 --> 01:28:59,560
for nature and game.

1770
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 21: A man.

1771
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:03,640
Speaker 14: I've been waiting to find out what he measured in

1772
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:08,079
game management Fridays to say, ducks.

1773
01:29:10,199 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 2: Game.

1774
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,319
Speaker 14: So Boss take it from here. Sid, I guess, is

1775
01:29:14,359 --> 01:29:15,960
a much different person off the mat, is he not?

1776
01:29:19,359 --> 01:29:21,399
Speaker 5: Sid is a much different person off the mat. In fact,

1777
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:24,640
this magazine has learned that the Quote Monster from West

1778
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:28,479
Memphis is an avid hunter who uses the sport as

1779
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:33,199
therapy to help him Quote relax. The wild gives me

1780
01:29:33,319 --> 01:29:36,800
a chance to reflect on my career and other choices

1781
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:37,840
I've made in my life.

1782
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 14: Also an avid hunter Stephanie's husband.

1783
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 5: On that note, Sid isn't any different from other professional

1784
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:53,079
athletes scores of NFL and NBA superstars. Superstars, by the way,

1785
01:29:53,239 --> 01:29:58,279
not players or athletes. Superstars as well as professional baseball

1786
01:29:58,359 --> 01:30:01,680
players enjoy hunting and f like said, they enjoy the

1787
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,760
challenge of the hunt and the peacefulness of being at

1788
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,079
one with the land and the animals that live upon it.

1789
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,960
Each year said, does what every deer hunter must do.

1790
01:30:11,159 --> 01:30:15,720
He pays for and obtains permits to harvest deer pays

1791
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,079
for and obtains permits. You heard it here. First he

1792
01:30:19,159 --> 01:30:26,159
obtains permits to harvest, not to hunt. Harvest, because are

1793
01:30:26,239 --> 01:30:28,800
they growing deer to be harvested? Is that what's going on?

1794
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:33,239
Speaker 14: I suppose, yeah, that he's seeing to it that deer's

1795
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:39,800
you know, procreate so that he can kill them. All right, Well,

1796
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:47,239
there we go, they're harvesting and procreating deer. He realizes

1797
01:30:47,279 --> 01:30:51,039
that his payments for permits, licenses, and ammunition help maintain

1798
01:30:51,399 --> 01:30:54,039
state designated hunting habitats.

1799
01:30:54,079 --> 01:30:56,680
Speaker 5: Oh good, well, I'm glad. He realizes that in the

1800
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,800
United States, all the money I pay for deer tags

1801
01:31:00,239 --> 01:31:05,359
and hunting licenses is funneled back into the game management system.

1802
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:17,119
Speaker 14: Also involved in the game management system Stephanie, who says.

1803
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:23,159
Speaker 5: The calendar in the in the the Helmsley House. This

1804
01:31:23,319 --> 01:31:26,880
secures hunters safe every areas in which to hunt, and

1805
01:31:27,039 --> 01:31:30,720
also maintains ecosystems. You know, the balance of the herds

1806
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:31,680
in the woods.

1807
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,119
Speaker 14: The jim herds in the woods, said the jim hers

1808
01:31:34,119 --> 01:31:36,199
in the The first time he's tried to hunt a herd.

1809
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 5: O deer herds have skyrocket in the last decade. He says,

1810
01:31:41,039 --> 01:31:44,119
there are millions of deer in the United States and

1811
01:31:44,239 --> 01:31:47,479
their numbers are always increasing. I'm going to say about it.

1812
01:31:48,039 --> 01:31:50,960
I'm gonna say it doesn't seem like it actually, if

1813
01:31:51,039 --> 01:31:54,359
it weren't for concerned hunters, like said, those numbers could

1814
01:31:54,399 --> 01:31:55,920
pose a problem to people.

1815
01:31:56,079 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 14: Oh thank god, he's killing these animals, especial what we do.

1816
01:31:59,279 --> 01:32:01,760
He wasn't fucking killing these animals all the time, I.

1817
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,199
Speaker 5: Mean, we'd all be in deep trouble.

1818
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:13,199
Speaker 14: Come on, dear, I really kind of thought like it

1819
01:32:13,279 --> 01:32:15,920
was gonna say, you know, there are millions of deer

1820
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:17,880
in the United States and their days are numbered.

1821
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 5: That's what he should say.

1822
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 3: I'm hutting you down.

1823
01:32:25,279 --> 01:32:27,239
Speaker 14: Just the guy you want to see trapesing through the

1824
01:32:27,279 --> 01:32:30,039
woods and fatigues. Jesus, Now I know where they got

1825
01:32:30,079 --> 01:32:31,399
the very windom gimmick from.

1826
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:38,199
Speaker 5: Imagine you see Sid It's like, you know, just also

1827
01:32:38,279 --> 01:32:41,520
I picture mounting with you know, like he's wearing fatigue,

1828
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:45,640
Like he's wearing like those kinds of cargo pants. You know,

1829
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:50,079
he's were you know, uh a camo uh cargo pants

1830
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:54,680
and a camo vest, no shirt, all right, and a

1831
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:55,920
white baseball hat.

1832
01:32:56,079 --> 01:32:59,640
Speaker 14: Oh my god, all right, that's the whole Cogan movie.

1833
01:33:00,199 --> 01:33:02,039
What movie is it where he's got the camo vest

1834
01:33:02,119 --> 01:33:04,920
and like the fake hair? Is that a secret agent club?

1835
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:07,199
Speaker 5: One of those? Oh yeah, it was one of those.

1836
01:33:08,079 --> 01:33:10,920
You see a picture here in the magazine. No you no, no, no, no,

1837
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,520
no no no no, it wasn't that. It was the

1838
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:18,880
ultimate weapon, Ultimate weapon? Sure, ultimate weapon. So are they

1839
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:23,760
called Rick Wilson? They should have called them.

1840
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 3: I'm proud of you, dear. You can'todd from Sid.

1841
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:32,600
Speaker 5: God, I thought you were reading the article again. I'm

1842
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,520
like trying to Did you say that? Did I lose

1843
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:44,439
my place? That would be amazing. So the if it

1844
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,279
weren't for concerted hunters like Sid, those numbers could pose

1845
01:33:47,319 --> 01:33:50,359
a problem to people, especially farmers who depend on their

1846
01:33:50,399 --> 01:33:53,159
crops for a livelihood. Too many deer in one area

1847
01:33:53,319 --> 01:33:58,119
means too many hungry deer. Too many hungry deer means

1848
01:33:58,159 --> 01:34:01,159
the animals will wander deeper into populated areas in order

1849
01:34:01,239 --> 01:34:05,000
to eat and survive. Another reason Sid likes to likes

1850
01:34:05,039 --> 01:34:08,880
deer hunting is because the sport unites families, and it

1851
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:14,279
also destroys exactly. It depends what you mean. During the

1852
01:34:14,399 --> 01:34:16,720
rare occasions away from the ring in the deer season,

1853
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:21,640
Sid often takes his twelve year old son, Frank, I'm

1854
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,800
gonna teach you how to deliver Vienna's. Frank, We're gonna

1855
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:29,720
hunt deer venison. You got that. This is where it

1856
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:36,960
comes from. We got Vienna venison, sausages, hot dogs, canned

1857
01:34:37,399 --> 01:34:43,760
Vienna medallions. These are these are the Vienna medallions. Right.

1858
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,479
Don't want you to aim. I want you to shoot

1859
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:52,880
that deer, Frank, I said, put your gun, put your

1860
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:56,680
gun on your shoulder. You aim, and you kill that deer.

1861
01:34:58,159 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 3: Fank, Dude, I said, kill the deer.

1862
01:35:04,279 --> 01:35:05,520
Speaker 5: It's gone. Now look what.

1863
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 3: Happened right away? Because you're stupid.

1864
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:13,319
Speaker 5: Because you're stupid ass. Are you sure that's why you

1865
01:35:13,399 --> 01:35:13,760
run away?

1866
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:14,039
Speaker 15: Dad?

1867
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,520
Speaker 3: Hey, right away? Because you're stupid.

1868
01:35:24,119 --> 01:35:30,239
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Frank just a fucking twelve year old kid,

1869
01:35:30,319 --> 01:35:34,479
just like trying to, you know, please his dad, Daddy.

1870
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:44,720
He doesn't talk like that. He ran away because you're stupid, Naddy.

1871
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,079
Why are you yelling at me, daddy?

1872
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:49,600
Speaker 3: Because you're stupid, Frank.

1873
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 6: You let him get.

1874
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:56,520
Speaker 5: Away, Daddy, and you're ruining everything. Now I'm gonna go

1875
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:57,960
up to Zuzu and see her room.

1876
01:36:02,279 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 2: What do you say?

1877
01:36:03,319 --> 01:36:05,119
Speaker 5: Now, I'm gonna go up and check on Zusa.

1878
01:36:08,239 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 3: And Susan's sick.

1879
01:36:11,039 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 11: I'm gonna fucking check your because you're a fucking sellure.

1880
01:36:14,119 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 5: Frank Christer was one of the kids. Frank, No, so

1881
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,000
it's so drafting in this house.

1882
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 3: It's so fucking class in this house.

1883
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:32,239
Speaker 5: That's it as George Bailey. Too bad we didn't attribute

1884
01:36:32,239 --> 01:36:34,439
this guy before we did that one.

1885
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,199
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I would have named George Bailey Heasley

1886
01:36:41,279 --> 01:36:42,640
out a boy, Clarence.

1887
01:36:47,319 --> 01:36:49,039
Speaker 5: Clarence is like said, I'm managing the heels.

1888
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:55,119
Speaker 3: Oh Jesus, allright.

1889
01:36:55,279 --> 01:36:55,399
Speaker 15: Uh.

1890
01:36:56,239 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 5: This is a great year old hunter picture to the

1891
01:37:00,079 --> 01:37:05,159
right with his dad and younger brother, Gunnar. Gunner along Gunnar.

1892
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:08,840
That's a nice spelled gunner. It's Gunnar along with him.

1893
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:13,960
In fact, Frank is an accomplished marksman. Skip skip skip

1894
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,720
here two years ago, Frank would sit it a side

1895
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:20,159
bagged an eight point buck. Oh yeah, and I got

1896
01:37:20,199 --> 01:37:20,640
my attention.

1897
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:21,039
Speaker 17: Son.

1898
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 5: There's just pictures of fucking deer heads in the wall,

1899
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:31,920
which I just you know, I've never understood that the taxidermy. Yeah,

1900
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:36,239
I just don't understand, Like, I don't want animals heads

1901
01:37:36,319 --> 01:37:38,159
up there looking at me. I don't get it.

1902
01:37:38,399 --> 01:37:41,039
Speaker 14: So I know it's not even like an animal rights thing.

1903
01:37:41,119 --> 01:37:42,680
It's like it's creepy as fuck.

1904
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 5: Right, I I listen, I get it. You know that's

1905
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:47,000
the way some people are. They want to hunt. Fine,

1906
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:50,000
it's really it's just it's that, I that what the

1907
01:37:50,039 --> 01:37:51,000
fuck's looking at you?

1908
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 6: Right?

1909
01:37:53,279 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 5: Those eyes are I don't need that. I don't need

1910
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:59,960
that ship. It looks like a Christmas display in the lawn. Really,

1911
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:07,239
I know, it looks like animatronic reindeer. Creepy, creepy as fuck.

1912
01:38:10,319 --> 01:38:12,399
Two years ago, Frank with the other eight point fick.

1913
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,359
It was the youngster's first registered deal deer kill, and

1914
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:20,079
it made both father and son extremely extremely proud. Frank

1915
01:38:20,159 --> 01:38:22,399
Baggs first deer while he was in the sixth grade.

1916
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:26,880
Three years ago. It says he's twelve, right, I know

1917
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:30,000
you're gonna do that. That doesn't make any sense. He's twelve.

1918
01:38:31,359 --> 01:38:37,840
He should be in the sixth grade. Awesome, right, that's

1919
01:38:39,359 --> 01:38:41,840
you turn ten. Maybe he is fourth grade you turn

1920
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:46,399
eleven in the Uh, yeah, he should be in the

1921
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,720
sixth grade, maybe seventh grade, I suppose, But maybe he

1922
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,079
was on accelerated learning because he's just so brilliant. Maybe

1923
01:38:52,399 --> 01:38:55,199
maybe maybe that's maybe that's why he can't fucking h

1924
01:38:55,279 --> 01:38:57,600
he can't deliver Vienna's and he's so fucking smart.

1925
01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:59,239
Speaker 14: Don't you know that when kids are on track to

1926
01:38:59,279 --> 01:39:01,720
Star and brother one year that they shoot him up

1927
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:02,479
four or five grades.

1928
01:39:03,079 --> 01:39:06,199
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure he shoot him up a

1929
01:39:06,199 --> 01:39:11,039
whole different kind of ways. He shoot him rigs and

1930
01:39:11,159 --> 01:39:17,800
fucking needles and shit, just rigs. What about bagwell? What wow?

1931
01:39:19,159 --> 01:39:24,960
Will you getting it? Will you do him? Sid there's

1932
01:39:25,039 --> 01:39:28,479
no bagwell, there's no time to.

1933
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:32,279
Speaker 14: Bagwell, right, and that's ladies and gentlemen. While he got

1934
01:39:32,319 --> 01:39:33,439
fired from the grocery store.

1935
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 7: Ah.

1936
01:39:40,279 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 5: Indeed, I have heard that he used twelve gage shotguns

1937
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:51,439
and bagged the bucket the Panther Creek game refuge in Mississippi.

1938
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 14: I want to short change the kid twenty gauge shotgun

1939
01:39:55,119 --> 01:40:00,920
T ten, sorry to double the gauge double gate brother,

1940
01:40:01,239 --> 01:40:06,439
if only double gate. Panther Creek is one of the

1941
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,399
most prestigious state owned hunting preserves in the United States.

1942
01:40:10,079 --> 01:40:12,000
The refuse, what do I feel like we just talked

1943
01:40:12,039 --> 01:40:19,000
about we talked about something on cinemat with turkey turkey hunting?

1944
01:40:20,119 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 5: Did we did?

1945
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:21,039
Speaker 27: We?

1946
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:25,239
Speaker 5: Yeah? We did. There was some article because it had

1947
01:40:25,359 --> 01:40:28,119
the guy the same name about It had very little

1948
01:40:28,159 --> 01:40:31,760
to do with the actual movie, but the the guy

1949
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:33,479
who was in charge of the same name as somebody

1950
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:37,359
we were I was doing a profile on. But it

1951
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:39,479
turned out to not be the same guy. But the

1952
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:41,880
story was just so fucking funny that I had to

1953
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:44,880
read it. And it was involving Panther Creek. No, it

1954
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:46,920
wasn't Panther Creek, but it was about some kind of

1955
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:55,399
like organized turkey hunting. To bring that one back to Thanksgiving,

1956
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:59,880
yeah exactly. I'll have to find that that piece. I

1957
01:41:03,359 --> 01:41:07,239
can here in Black Bear, as well as a variety

1958
01:41:07,279 --> 01:41:12,479
of water fowls such as canvas back ducks. Teals, Wait,

1959
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:17,439
canvas back bumps? Brother, what canvas back ducks? Haven't heard

1960
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:19,840
of that? Canvas camas? What we mean do?

1961
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 1: It's the Laps Wrestling Podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows

1962
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:54,920
the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's

1963
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:59,239
the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio.

1964
01:41:59,039 --> 01:42:03,039
Speaker 5: And Japiso ask your question, boss, real quick, Yeah, pumpkin

1965
01:42:03,119 --> 01:42:07,479
seeds yet soon this week? Checking this sweet checking. I

1966
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:09,359
didn't want to miss the opportunity. Get it. No, no, no,

1967
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:11,319
it's it's gonna happen. Listen, listen, I'll tell you what

1968
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:13,760
You'll know for sure because I'll be snacking the fuck

1969
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:15,159
on this. As we talked about turkey, you know, I

1970
01:42:15,199 --> 01:42:18,520
had to had now we get because we got to

1971
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:22,479
carve the jack lane in his first and then pumpkin seeds.

1972
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:25,800
I made my cinnamon sugar ones. Those were oh lovely.

1973
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:28,680
You know we have I'm actually might try a batch

1974
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,439
of that because we have it. Man, so simple, we

1975
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,439
have so many. We actually have a ton of just

1976
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:38,159
by chance. My parents came down and brought small pumpkins

1977
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:41,119
as well. Despite the ones that we bought that I

1978
01:42:41,199 --> 01:42:44,479
got for my family, we actually have a huge amount.

1979
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,359
So actually there's this is a good year to to

1980
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:49,600
mix it up a little bit elt butter. Well, let

1981
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:52,840
them drive elt butter in a bowl, ye, and put

1982
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:56,079
them in cinnamon sugar on top, mix them up, bake them.

1983
01:42:56,119 --> 01:42:57,119
We'll give us shop business.

1984
01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 14: I'll give it Thanksgiving sandwich come as well. I take

1985
01:43:01,039 --> 01:43:03,560
it as Oh yes, I see turkey's wandering the neighborhood,

1986
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:05,720
and I'm saying, guys, your days are numbered.

1987
01:43:06,279 --> 01:43:08,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you're gonna get in my belly on the

1988
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:11,439
day after. I'm thanksgiving him the day after. More importantly,

1989
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:13,640
so that's where the danger happened.

1990
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:16,119
Speaker 14: You can only read this much about hunting this close

1991
01:43:16,279 --> 01:43:20,800
to game season, foul season without reminding folks that Dosa,

1992
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:25,399
those sweet smells and flavors right around the corner as well.

1993
01:43:26,159 --> 01:43:30,840
Oh it's it's so necessary for Christmas this year. Yeah,

1994
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:32,720
it's the plan. There's the plan.

1995
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 5: I'm planning numbers, showing it up pretty hard. Please continue,

1996
01:43:39,239 --> 01:43:46,000
all right. Canvas back ducks, teals, and Canadian geese, not

1997
01:43:46,119 --> 01:43:50,239
to mention other game birds such as pheasant, bob, white, quail,

1998
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:54,399
and partridge. Said tells this magazine that deer hunting almost

1999
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:57,720
caused him serious injury, not by his or someone else's gun,

2000
01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:01,319
but by a buck itself and buck, damn bucky, by

2001
01:44:01,399 --> 01:44:04,119
a damn buck itself. I was hunting during the rut,

2002
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,520
the period when dominant bucks compete for their foe. They're

2003
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:12,600
doe the female of the species, Sid says, when a

2004
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:15,920
big deal charged with me. Now I'm an't afraid of

2005
01:44:16,039 --> 01:44:19,159
any man in the ring. I'll take on vader or

2006
01:44:19,319 --> 01:44:22,640
mankind any day of the week. But this was unreal.

2007
01:44:24,199 --> 01:44:26,760
I froze for a second as the buck came at me.

2008
01:44:27,279 --> 01:44:30,600
The sun was going down, so I couldn't really see

2009
01:44:31,039 --> 01:44:34,079
him well coming through the brush. When he got about

2010
01:44:34,119 --> 01:44:36,479
ten feet away from me, that's when I decided to

2011
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:40,279
harvest it. Oh, harvest is another word for kill. I see,

2012
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:43,760
I get well. I mean, I guess it's still fucking weird.

2013
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,119
It's weird to me. I don't know because to me, again,

2014
01:44:48,359 --> 01:44:50,600
the idea of harvesting and you know, listen, I'm not

2015
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:53,640
a hunter, so I don't fucking know shit. So anyone

2016
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:55,800
who's a hunter can can definitely tell me that I'm

2017
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:59,600
an idiot for saying this. But to me, harvesting is

2018
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:03,520
you row something and then you harvest it. Right, They're

2019
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:05,399
not again, they're not growing deer.

2020
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:09,239
Speaker 14: Harvest is when you turn something you brought into existence into.

2021
01:45:09,119 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 5: Food, right exactly.

2022
01:45:11,319 --> 01:45:13,399
Speaker 14: Let me ask you a question, growing, does this article

2023
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:14,319
qualified deer hunter?

2024
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 15: That?

2025
01:45:19,319 --> 01:45:23,840
Speaker 5: Okay, just checking, Although I forget I think we had

2026
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:26,000
this conversation before. I don't think deer hunter yet qualified.

2027
01:45:27,039 --> 01:45:31,079
I think I think it's or was there something that's

2028
01:45:31,079 --> 01:45:34,119
a great move. It's a great movie. But it's a

2029
01:45:34,239 --> 01:45:37,760
great movie. Huh, it's a great movie.

2030
01:45:38,119 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 3: It is it is.

2031
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 5: It'd be great to be able to have that on

2032
01:45:40,039 --> 01:45:40,319
the list.

2033
01:45:43,399 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 14: Uh So, I mean, can we call sids run the

2034
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:51,079
rut because he's also competing for dough.

2035
01:45:54,119 --> 01:45:55,560
Speaker 5: I mean, wrestlers are always competing for you.

2036
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 14: It's not a run terry, it's a rut broiler. He

2037
01:46:02,039 --> 01:46:07,000
doesn't like that at all, exactly. Low this the fuck down?

2038
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, that he's nervous.

2039
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,359
Speaker 14: Now when they we're talking about you know, canvas back ducks,

2040
01:46:12,399 --> 01:46:15,439
teals and Canadian geese, I'm thinking, yes, any of other

2041
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:18,399
any other of Cody's siblings in there besides this teal.

2042
01:46:21,159 --> 01:46:22,760
I don't know why only she got the invite.

2043
01:46:23,359 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what happens the uh when he got

2044
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,800
ten ft away, that's when I heard. Really, I didn't

2045
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:34,960
have a choice. It was either shoot or climb up

2046
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:39,279
a tree. Yeah, I know it's what he's doing. Yeah, God,

2047
01:46:39,319 --> 01:46:41,000
he climbed up the tree. He's gonna he's gonna fucking

2048
01:46:41,119 --> 01:46:46,119
break his leg in half. Sid leveled his gun with

2049
01:46:46,279 --> 01:46:49,479
steady hands and calm breathing. He pulled the trigger. It

2050
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:53,920
was an excellent shot. Sid says. The animal crashed to

2051
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:56,279
the ground and a thud. When he retrieved the animal,

2052
01:46:56,359 --> 01:46:59,399
he saw just what a prize he had. It was

2053
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:06,199
a ten point winner and huge. When I dressed him out,

2054
01:47:07,159 --> 01:47:10,960
that's cleaning the animals, enterds and some bones. It weighed

2055
01:47:11,039 --> 01:47:15,520
three hundred ninety pounds. That's more than our way, said,

2056
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:18,319
says he bagged this beauty at Little Twisted Game Reserve

2057
01:47:18,399 --> 01:47:22,039
in northern Mississippi. The owner of the private land hunting retreat,

2058
01:47:22,399 --> 01:47:26,640
Howard Brent, told Sid that the buck was one of

2059
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:29,399
the biggest ever harvested there in the last five years.

2060
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:31,279
Speaker 14: God said, that's got to be one of the biggest

2061
01:47:31,279 --> 01:47:32,640
bucks I've ever seen hunted.

2062
01:47:33,239 --> 01:47:35,279
Speaker 5: Oh God, now, hey see it. I just took to

2063
01:47:35,359 --> 01:47:38,880
tell you, man, Wow. Now I've seen people harvesting bucks

2064
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:41,840
all you know, for for decades. That has got to

2065
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:45,840
be the biggest damn buck I've ever seen harvest.

2066
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:48,039
Speaker 14: I mean, Howard, I'm counting this thing. I mean, I

2067
01:47:48,079 --> 01:47:49,720
don't think we've got a big enough table. I mean,

2068
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:51,880
I've seen some bucks laid down on our table before,

2069
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:53,159
but this is on a whole other level.

2070
01:47:53,239 --> 01:47:55,600
Speaker 5: Man. I don't. I'll tell you said. You said, you

2071
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:59,000
can't bring that here. You can't. No, you're gotta bring

2072
01:47:59,079 --> 01:47:59,840
that someplace else.

2073
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:00,319
Speaker 2: I don't know what.

2074
01:48:00,399 --> 01:48:01,920
Speaker 5: I don't want to tell you. I can't. I don't

2075
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,119
have space for it. What do you mean you have

2076
01:48:04,199 --> 01:48:07,800
the space for it? I don't have. Look, I don't listen.

2077
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:09,239
I can tell you right now that that is going

2078
01:48:09,279 --> 01:48:11,560
to be a stray buck. I don't. I don't grow

2079
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:15,680
bucks that big. Now, we we do, we do, we

2080
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:19,079
do medium size, not this fucking big ass ship. What

2081
01:48:19,159 --> 01:48:20,640
do you want me to do with that? I want

2082
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:22,600
you to do what you gotta do to clean the

2083
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:26,119
sun of bits exactly. I said I don't have the

2084
01:48:26,159 --> 01:48:28,640
space for it, and you know what said I don't

2085
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:32,920
want the space either. But this is horrifying. Oh my god.

2086
01:48:34,119 --> 01:48:36,760
I said, you're you're killing You're killing deer on my land.

2087
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:43,880
That's the whole idea. How you told me that's what

2088
01:48:44,039 --> 01:48:46,640
you have here. You said that that is what's going

2089
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:51,840
on here, that this is land specifically designed and registered

2090
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:56,159
for harvesting animal. Uh, well, well, take a look at

2091
01:48:56,199 --> 01:48:59,039
this beauty. I mean, that's what I call a trophy.

2092
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:01,039
This one's a king in the Woods said, I mean,

2093
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:03,399
I must have taken a lot of patience to get him.

2094
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:08,319
Been watching him for seasons, said said, we don't have

2095
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:10,640
We don't kill animals here, we harvest them.

2096
01:49:12,079 --> 01:49:12,399
Speaker 10: Mhm.

2097
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:15,319
Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question. What does that mean

2098
01:49:15,359 --> 01:49:19,720
when you put a bliss fucking meme? Said, we don't

2099
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:24,760
we don't murder. We don't murder animal life here. This

2100
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:28,119
is a place of nature, is a place of God. No, look,

2101
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:30,840
let me speaking of witch. Wait, let me ask you

2102
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:34,039
a question. Wait, when you shot this thing, did it

2103
01:49:34,119 --> 01:49:40,119
do like three or four summersaults? I'd say, yes, it did,

2104
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:42,319
And my god, I'd say, we got a young buck

2105
01:49:42,399 --> 01:49:49,600
right here, said just let me ask them here after

2106
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:53,800
you shot it, did you notice it kind of engage

2107
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:56,399
in a in a in a in a party of

2108
01:49:56,439 --> 01:50:01,239
super kicks with a lace three about kicking people in

2109
01:50:01,279 --> 01:50:08,199
the face? This was wow, said you're under a rest

2110
01:50:08,239 --> 01:50:11,960
for killing a young buck. Matter, Nick, how long you been?

2111
01:50:12,199 --> 01:50:16,720
How long have you been tracking him? Said I've been

2112
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:19,239
tracking him in my mind for five years?

2113
01:50:20,319 --> 01:50:23,560
Speaker 14: Smart old buck too, wasn't he who ever trick in

2114
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:24,880
the book to keep out of sight? From what I

2115
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:32,439
can tell, how did patients pay off in the end.

2116
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 16: See it.

2117
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 5: I don't have patience. I get it done, just like you.

2118
01:50:42,079 --> 01:50:43,039
Speaker 3: Got Howard Brent.

2119
01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:49,119
Speaker 5: This one's gonna make a great story. That didn't even

2120
01:50:49,239 --> 01:50:50,279
better Mount.

2121
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:55,760
Speaker 3: Harding the mount your head, hold my fucking wall.

2122
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:02,600
Speaker 14: He's trying his best to sound happy for Sid, so

2123
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:04,800
he doesn't go down this road, but he knows he's

2124
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:08,640
going to. He knows he's start threatening him. There's gonna

2125
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:12,920
be something that dissatisfies Sid, and at that point all

2126
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:13,359
bets are.

2127
01:51:13,359 --> 01:51:19,119
Speaker 5: Off, said listen, I said, I didn't mean a fan,

2128
01:51:19,239 --> 01:51:21,359
all right, I did not mean a fan. Let's can

2129
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:23,640
we let bygones be bygones? Please?

2130
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 3: Shut You don't determine bygones, you bitch.

2131
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:35,399
Speaker 5: There's the quote, you don't determine bygones, you bitch.

2132
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 14: That's awesome. I cherished that one more than anything said

2133
01:51:41,039 --> 01:51:47,800
has said this whole series. You don't determine bygones. That

2134
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:53,159
think of the utility that that phrase has across everything.

2135
01:51:54,039 --> 01:51:58,239
You don't determined by like exactly like okay, I'll let

2136
01:51:58,319 --> 01:52:02,039
bygones be bygones, but you don't decide what's meant by bygones?

2137
01:52:02,119 --> 01:52:02,840
Speaker 5: Power I did.

2138
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:04,720
Speaker 3: It's right, you don't determine so.

2139
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:07,119
Speaker 14: Long as I decide what bygones are, yes, I am

2140
01:52:07,239 --> 01:52:09,479
very willing to let bygones be bygones.

2141
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 5: Oh Man, Little twists, it ads, Little twists it Ads

2142
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:19,479
is one of the premier locations for waterfowl hunting. Ducks

2143
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:22,600
and geese are migratory birds protected under the United States

2144
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:25,960
Federal law. Little Twist Game Reserve is located in the

2145
01:52:26,039 --> 01:52:29,359
migratory flyways for these birds, and it isn't uncommon to

2146
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:32,680
see thousands fly overhead at any given time. When deer

2147
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:34,880
season ends, you can find Sid and his son and

2148
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:38,359
their duck blinds waiting for their choice game to fly

2149
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:43,319
into range. Just sit is just everywhere with an arsenal

2150
01:52:43,359 --> 01:52:43,920
of weapons.

2151
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:47,039
Speaker 14: Just make sure when they fly into range that you

2152
01:52:47,119 --> 01:52:48,800
catch them so they don't break their ankle on the

2153
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:50,439
descent to the floor.

2154
01:52:54,119 --> 01:52:58,520
Speaker 5: Like every ethical hunter, Sid values the role of conservation

2155
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:05,880
at conservation officer and conservation of what exactly. Officers and

2156
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:11,239
biologists are these sportsmen's best friends. The rules and regulations

2157
01:53:11,279 --> 01:53:16,399
of hunting aren't determined by conservation officers and biologists. They're

2158
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:20,720
the guys who conduct studies on the animals and figure

2159
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:26,640
out how certain populations of certain species are overpopulated. Is

2160
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:29,039
also great to be in the woods and I see

2161
01:53:29,079 --> 01:53:33,039
all the animals I can't hunt, such as owls, eagles,

2162
01:53:33,079 --> 01:53:37,199
and songbirds. That's being at one with nature. That's what

2163
01:53:37,399 --> 01:53:40,399
hunting is really about. I love the idea that they

2164
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:44,199
have this. You know, you know, God forbid that there

2165
01:53:44,279 --> 01:53:50,720
come a time where some some being higher on the

2166
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:52,600
food chaine of sides. You know what I want to

2167
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:55,640
tell you, Some of these humans are overpopulating in the earth.

2168
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:58,880
I think we're gonna kind of make some reservations where

2169
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:01,439
we can hunt them, kind of tone things down a

2170
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:04,439
little bit. How we feel about that? Out of hand?

2171
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:06,920
It really is all these humans getting out of hand.

2172
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:09,359
Got to fucking cut them down.

2173
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:12,319
Speaker 14: I think the owls and eagles and songbirds have gotten

2174
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:13,920
the memo that they're not going to be hunted. Do

2175
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:16,560
you think they kind of just like flaunted.

2176
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sure that they do. I'm sure that they're

2177
01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:20,279
completely aware.

2178
01:54:21,319 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 14: Oh my god, Like how foolish he looks with that

2179
01:54:23,079 --> 01:54:26,399
big bass he cut. He looks like such an idy teenager.

2180
01:54:28,079 --> 01:54:30,239
That's what he wants to do, man, he's a country boy.

2181
01:54:30,279 --> 01:54:32,359
He wants to go home, tend the farm and hunt

2182
01:54:33,079 --> 01:54:35,800
and softball. It does not take a lot to get

2183
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:38,239
his mind to turn to all right, how do I

2184
01:54:38,319 --> 01:54:40,359
find a way to do an Irish exit here and

2185
01:54:40,439 --> 01:54:43,319
disappear without anyone even noticing I was leaving?

2186
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:44,079
Speaker 6: Right?

2187
01:54:44,239 --> 01:54:47,039
Speaker 14: That's always the way, And I'd like for Sid, you know,

2188
01:54:47,199 --> 01:54:50,760
David Letterman style here Top ten Psycho Sid's Hunter's tips

2189
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:51,319
for safety.

2190
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:57,159
Speaker 5: They do them in order here or go backwards. I

2191
01:54:57,239 --> 01:54:59,319
guess they're in no particular order, so I don't know.

2192
01:55:01,319 --> 01:55:03,960
Always hunt with your parents or relatives who've been in

2193
01:55:04,039 --> 01:55:06,840
the woods a lot. What if I want to hunt

2194
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:09,199
and I have no parents, relatives I've ever hunted before.

2195
01:55:10,239 --> 01:55:11,760
I think what he's saying is, then you can't hunt.

2196
01:55:12,479 --> 01:55:16,600
I guess. Number two. Always keep your gun on safety

2197
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:22,640
even when you're shooting at bucks. Three, Never run with

2198
01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:27,520
a gun, even with a safety mechanism activated. Number four,

2199
01:55:28,039 --> 01:55:31,359
Be sure what you're shooting at and what's beyond your target.

2200
01:55:32,479 --> 01:55:41,560
Five When in doubt, don't shoot brother? Yo, Yo, Sid?

2201
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:47,680
What's up? Brother? WHOA? I just want to you know,

2202
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:49,000
Si his brother? What's going on?

2203
01:55:49,239 --> 01:55:49,439
Speaker 6: Dude?

2204
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:52,319
Speaker 5: Big says dude. We graduate you on winning the strip. Brother.

2205
01:55:52,439 --> 01:55:55,800
That's really awesome, Bro, I saw it. I was watching,

2206
01:55:56,159 --> 01:55:58,000
you know, brother, I was watching the Survivor series.

2207
01:55:58,079 --> 01:55:58,279
Speaker 17: Dude.

2208
01:55:58,279 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 5: You guys you know you did. You did really fucking

2209
01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:03,439
great in the gizzard and day we're giving you guys

2210
01:56:03,479 --> 01:56:04,520
a run for your money over here.

2211
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 2: Brother.

2212
01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:06,720
Speaker 5: But I tell you what, when I saw them strap

2213
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:08,439
you up, brother, I thought, oh, man, we got some

2214
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:11,680
real strong counter winds coming in. Brother. Like, I was like,

2215
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:14,680
oh ship, you know we got You know, I've always said,

2216
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:17,199
you look, you can make a bunch of little mistakes too,

2217
01:56:17,239 --> 01:56:19,119
but you can only make a few big ones, brother,

2218
01:56:19,439 --> 01:56:21,279
And I think we made a big mistake by allowing

2219
01:56:21,319 --> 01:56:23,039
them to put the strap on YouTube. I'm telling you what.

2220
01:56:23,119 --> 01:56:23,319
Speaker 16: Brother.

2221
01:56:23,439 --> 01:56:25,399
Speaker 14: So I'm at the grocery store, dude, and I see

2222
01:56:25,439 --> 01:56:28,159
this this WWF magazine, the Spotlight gimmick on the on

2223
01:56:28,199 --> 01:56:31,920
the newsstands. Brother, and I opened it up, and I'm fumbing, dude.

2224
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:34,079
You know, I just want to you know, I just

2225
01:56:34,199 --> 01:56:36,680
I just you know, my monster to get in a little.

2226
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:38,800
I was like, wow, dude, this guy is very well spoken.

2227
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:41,159
You know, nice little stories there about Sid kind of

2228
01:56:41,159 --> 01:56:42,159
getting some of that background.

2229
01:56:42,239 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 5: Dude. I'm wandering, dude, you know you kind of lossen

2230
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:50,239
this especially intrigued Browner, by those by those you know

2231
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:58,000
your your safety tips are hunting in big fan, And

2232
01:56:58,119 --> 01:56:59,720
I just want to say, you know, number five dude

2233
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:01,760
really kind of caught my attention, and I was wondering

2234
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:04,119
if you could kind of elaborate on that. Dude he said,

2235
01:57:04,399 --> 01:57:07,920
he said, when in doubt, don't shoot? What do you

2236
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:08,319
mean by that?

2237
01:57:08,439 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 6: Brother?

2238
01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:14,319
Speaker 14: I love how long it takes him to get to

2239
01:57:14,399 --> 01:57:17,760
the question. The preamble is like it's too much. He

2240
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,119
thinks he can couches his paranoia.

2241
01:57:20,199 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 5: He thinks he can. Yeah, yeah, he thinks you won't notice,

2242
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:27,239
right exactly exactly. I mean, you don't shoot? Like where

2243
01:57:27,239 --> 01:57:28,239
you're thinking about shooting?

2244
01:57:28,319 --> 01:57:28,359
Speaker 11: Like?

2245
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:30,159
Speaker 5: Is who you like?

2246
01:57:30,239 --> 01:57:30,439
Speaker 2: Are you?

2247
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:32,319
Speaker 5: Are you like in a shoot? Dude?

2248
01:57:32,359 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 15: Are you like?

2249
01:57:33,399 --> 01:57:35,359
Speaker 5: Well? Brother? You know this has gone from work to

2250
01:57:35,439 --> 01:57:38,079
a shoot? Like, what's you know? Where are you at

2251
01:57:38,159 --> 01:57:42,079
with that? Brother? What's your what's your you know? Dude, Like,

2252
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:46,119
what's your what's your kind of mentality on that?

2253
01:57:46,239 --> 01:57:46,439
Speaker 28: Dude?

2254
01:57:46,479 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 5: It's your angle? I mean, you're the big dog over

2255
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:52,800
there now, brother. You know we're battling company company. Listen, Dude,

2256
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:54,399
I want to tell you something. You know, I've been

2257
01:57:54,479 --> 01:57:56,159
the big dog over there, brother, I've been a big

2258
01:57:56,239 --> 01:57:58,800
dog on that big company up north. I kind of

2259
01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:00,920
I get what you're talking about, dude, Like you got

2260
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:02,880
people kind of coming for you at all angles. Brother,

2261
01:58:03,399 --> 01:58:04,960
I just want to I want to ask you you

2262
01:58:05,239 --> 01:58:07,720
put that in there, dude? Are you saying that? Like,

2263
01:58:08,359 --> 01:58:10,640
are you advising people like not to shoot on me?

2264
01:58:11,239 --> 01:58:13,079
I mean I read number four, brother, and I was like,

2265
01:58:13,439 --> 01:58:15,840
that could have RAMI vacation for Hull Hogan as well.

2266
01:58:16,399 --> 01:58:18,239
You know what You're Yeah, dude, I was like, I'm

2267
01:58:18,239 --> 01:58:20,520
reading the whole thing, and I'm like, you know, be

2268
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:23,319
sure what you're shooting at and what's beyond your target? Dude.

2269
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:25,239
And I'm like, well, wait, wait a minute. You know

2270
01:58:25,399 --> 01:58:28,239
he is he's like got the championship brothers Now, he's

2271
01:58:28,279 --> 01:58:32,359
he's gonna go after whole Coogan. Am I beyond the target?

2272
01:58:32,439 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 2: Brother?

2273
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:33,960
Speaker 5: Am I? Beyond the target?

2274
01:58:34,039 --> 01:58:34,239
Speaker 2: Brother?

2275
01:58:34,319 --> 01:58:34,479
Speaker 17: Am I?

2276
01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:37,880
Speaker 5: Am? I? What's what's next? Dude? Like, I'm just trying

2277
01:58:37,880 --> 01:58:40,159
to get listen. I'm not trying to I'm not trying

2278
01:58:40,159 --> 01:58:41,439
to accuse you of anything, dude. I just want to

2279
01:58:41,479 --> 01:58:45,079
get all our ducks in a row, all right, brother. So,

2280
01:58:45,359 --> 01:58:53,000
So I just want to you know, like what I

2281
01:58:53,119 --> 01:58:54,600
just got. I just want to I guess here, here's

2282
01:58:54,640 --> 01:59:00,439
my question, Dude, are you coming for my tour? You

2283
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:01,039
don't study?

2284
01:59:08,279 --> 01:59:10,880
Speaker 14: Because last time our paths cross? Brother, All of a sudden,

2285
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:13,600
I'm looking I'm looking up from the floor at Almondy

2286
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:15,600
in New York, and and I gotta wonder if the

2287
01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:16,920
rugs being pulled out from under me.

2288
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:19,359
Speaker 5: Dude, not I read this, I'm saying myself. You know,

2289
01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:21,640
is this where they're pulling the trigger on on hul

2290
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:25,960
Cogan too? Yeah? I'm just you know, I'm over here

2291
01:59:26,039 --> 01:59:28,199
happy for you. Are everything's done? You've been talking to

2292
01:59:28,239 --> 01:59:32,079
Bishoff dude, right like? Are you are you going to

2293
01:59:32,119 --> 01:59:33,159
be Hollywood Hogan too?

2294
01:59:33,279 --> 01:59:33,319
Speaker 16: Like?

2295
01:59:33,399 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 5: Are you gonna be Hollywood sit or something?

2296
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:35,119
Speaker 29: Brother?

2297
01:59:35,199 --> 01:59:38,680
Speaker 14: To talk to Eric before putting this top ten list together? Brother,

2298
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:41,479
I mean, it's just like a shot at hold Hoagan.

2299
01:59:42,279 --> 01:59:44,279
Speaker 5: Was just you know, be all you know, d you

2300
01:59:44,279 --> 01:59:46,600
don't don't feel obtimated to, like, you know, tell me

2301
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:48,399
something that you don't feel comfort to telling me. But

2302
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:51,560
I'm just curious, dude, was it Eric's idea to put

2303
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:54,760
this top ten list in there in the Spotlight magazine? Dude?

2304
01:59:56,479 --> 01:59:59,560
Was it Erics? Did Eric say we want to bring

2305
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:02,520
you over be Hull COVID right and do it? Eric,

2306
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:05,800
say that you're the third guy and you're already been

2307
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:08,039
the third guy. Brother, And does he want like a big,

2308
02:00:08,359 --> 02:00:10,680
you know, double truck spread on how good you are

2309
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:12,720
at shooting? Brother as send a message? I mean, is

2310
02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:15,119
he kind of get an idea of like how will you?

2311
02:00:15,239 --> 02:00:15,279
Speaker 15: Like?

2312
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:19,119
Speaker 5: I just got to know, dude, what's your angle? Right?

2313
02:00:19,239 --> 02:00:21,479
Speaker 14: I'm reading this You're so happy for your brother. I'm

2314
02:00:21,479 --> 02:00:23,479
reading all this great coverage, all these cool photos of

2315
02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:25,720
all the things we were working together that's in there.

2316
02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:27,880
That was great to see, brother, And then I get

2317
02:00:27,880 --> 02:00:29,600
to this article about how good of a shooter you

2318
02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:30,880
are and I'm like whoa.

2319
02:00:31,039 --> 02:00:32,880
Speaker 5: Like whoa? I'm like, dude, I don't know about to

2320
02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:35,119
said dude, Like who do I put my trust in?

2321
02:00:35,279 --> 02:00:37,439
Speaker 14: Just earlier in the same magazine, Brother, you're talking about

2322
02:00:37,479 --> 02:00:39,520
how I was never the same after we met at

2323
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:41,159
Russell Lani, your brother, and I get that this you

2324
02:00:41,199 --> 02:00:43,680
know the wiz erk, right, it's a wiz erk, But

2325
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:45,239
I don't know. I get to this article and I

2326
02:00:45,279 --> 02:00:46,720
got to wonder, like is this subliminal?

2327
02:00:46,840 --> 02:00:49,279
Speaker 5: Brother, Like, like are you I mean, I basically what

2328
02:00:49,319 --> 02:00:51,399
I'm trying to say is, are you like, is this

2329
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:54,279
like subliminal messaging? Dude? Are you warning me? Brother? Are

2330
02:00:54,279 --> 02:00:56,000
you saying hey, you know hall because time to look out,

2331
02:00:56,039 --> 02:01:00,479
dudecause I'm coming for your ass. I'm right now You're

2332
02:01:00,479 --> 02:01:04,960
gonna roll me up right exactly? Answer the question, Go ahead,

2333
02:01:05,319 --> 02:01:08,800
answer it. I'm also a little concert you haven't re

2334
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:14,079
applied to anything I said. He's kind of standing there

2335
02:01:14,119 --> 02:01:17,119
with a blank stare where you're your your white baseball

2336
02:01:17,119 --> 02:01:18,479
at Dude, I'm just starting to get an idea of

2337
02:01:18,479 --> 02:01:21,279
where we're at, you know, in terms of I mean you.

2338
02:01:21,359 --> 02:01:24,079
Speaker 14: Understand right said, you can't blame me for for having

2339
02:01:24,119 --> 02:01:26,720
to like, you know, cross this this dot this iron

2340
02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:28,840
crosses t brother. I mean, if this article came out,

2341
02:01:29,039 --> 02:01:29,359
I want to.

2342
02:01:29,359 --> 02:01:34,119
Speaker 5: Say you it's nothing personally gets you, dude on emphasize

2343
02:01:34,159 --> 02:01:36,399
came out. I just got to know, brother, are you

2344
02:01:36,439 --> 02:01:38,520
trying to take me down? Exactly? Brother? I mean, if

2345
02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:40,640
w W magazine came out with an article about how

2346
02:01:40,680 --> 02:01:43,039
I like to shoot and how I went in doubt,

2347
02:01:43,079 --> 02:01:45,159
don't shoot, brother, I mean, you would be within your

2348
02:01:45,239 --> 02:01:46,720
rights as the champion in New York to call me.

2349
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:48,880
I would expect you to feel the need to call

2350
02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:51,279
me and say, hey, you know, you know Hawk, what's

2351
02:01:51,319 --> 02:01:54,079
going on to you? You're shooting on me? Shooting I said, no, dude,

2352
02:01:54,079 --> 02:01:56,640
I'm not shooting on you. Brother, I'm not a magazine piece.

2353
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:57,439
I have nothing to do with that.

2354
02:01:57,479 --> 02:01:59,119
Speaker 14: And that's what I would say to you. Brother, full

2355
02:01:59,199 --> 02:02:01,600
of much them but love, dude. Yet I'm not getting

2356
02:02:01,640 --> 02:02:02,239
that from you yet.

2357
02:02:02,279 --> 02:02:02,479
Speaker 16: Brother.

2358
02:02:03,119 --> 02:02:05,399
Speaker 5: I'm I'm kind of feeling like you're you're hesitating game,

2359
02:02:06,319 --> 02:02:08,560
like we're not really on the same page with this, brother,

2360
02:02:09,039 --> 02:02:12,000
And I just want to know what your intention is, dude,

2361
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:14,560
Like how far do you how far are you going

2362
02:02:14,600 --> 02:02:21,479
with this shooting thing? Like what's the end game?

2363
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:21,800
Speaker 26: Brother?

2364
02:02:22,039 --> 02:02:23,720
Speaker 14: He doesn't take the hint and said his nut said

2365
02:02:23,720 --> 02:02:28,279
a word. He just keeps filling the silence with more questions.

2366
02:02:29,359 --> 02:02:29,439
Speaker 16: Like.

2367
02:02:32,199 --> 02:02:41,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna look if it, If it's good, it's gonna

2368
02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:48,319
keep you from from like coming at me. Dude, We'll

2369
02:02:48,359 --> 02:02:49,920
give you the dose. Still be about white now, brother?

2370
02:02:52,159 --> 02:02:52,479
All right?

2371
02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:54,760
Speaker 14: I mean I'm sitting here and I'm reading about how

2372
02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:57,479
you had this three hundred and three pounds buck charging

2373
02:02:57,560 --> 02:03:01,159
at you and that you shot on it. You shot

2374
02:03:01,199 --> 02:03:05,439
on him, dude, am I not supposed to read? Are you?

2375
02:03:05,720 --> 02:03:07,840
Am I a buck in your shot? Is this literal, brother,

2376
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:12,079
or is this allegory? Like I just I'm trying to

2377
02:03:12,079 --> 02:03:15,079
figure out what the metaphor is here, dude, because I

2378
02:03:15,119 --> 02:03:17,119
don't just think this article appeared drop out of the sky.

2379
02:03:17,239 --> 02:03:19,119
Brother is a human interest piece. You don't bullshit a

2380
02:03:19,159 --> 02:03:20,960
bullshit her brother, You don't work a worker.

2381
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:37,920
Speaker 5: I just got no dude, what's the dis mhm?

2382
02:03:39,600 --> 02:03:42,880
Speaker 14: I mean you're silent to speaking volumes. Dude, I gotta

2383
02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:45,359
tell you, brother, you're not making me feel any better

2384
02:03:45,399 --> 02:03:46,159
about the gimmick.

2385
02:03:47,520 --> 02:03:49,439
Speaker 16: I what.

2386
02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:55,359
Speaker 5: Mh the fact that I said what you didn't respond?

2387
02:03:55,479 --> 02:03:58,960
I'm and I can still see her on the line.

2388
02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:01,119
We didn't get disconnected. I can hear. I can hear

2389
02:04:01,159 --> 02:04:13,159
your breathing. Brother, I ever heard said, let me ask

2390
02:04:13,199 --> 02:04:30,479
you this brother, your court in this call? What a

2391
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:39,119
sharp detour? What he's worried about? And then there's a click,

2392
02:04:44,159 --> 02:04:49,520
h are you.

2393
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:54,119
Speaker 2: Mm hmm?

2394
02:05:00,159 --> 02:05:03,039
Speaker 17: You sent my church a case of being sausages and

2395
02:05:03,159 --> 02:05:04,800
I send him an autograph picture.

2396
02:05:07,359 --> 02:05:08,119
Speaker 5: I didn't get a picture.

2397
02:05:08,159 --> 02:05:21,239
Speaker 17: Brother said, listen, my church, it's a case of the

2398
02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:29,199
and a sausage and I send him an autograph picture.

2399
02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:33,039
Speaker 5: What else is on the top ten list? Yeah? At

2400
02:05:33,119 --> 02:05:36,680
number six, respect and clean the land on which you hunt.

2401
02:05:38,119 --> 02:05:45,680
Number seven, always retrieve any game you shoot. Number eight.

2402
02:05:46,439 --> 02:05:49,279
Respect others in the woods, such as hikers and others.

2403
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:55,319
It's for them to Number nine never harvests more than

2404
02:05:55,319 --> 02:06:01,159
a legal limit. Number ten, learn how to cook game.

2405
02:06:01,880 --> 02:06:05,079
It tastes great, and his lone fat and his family

2406
02:06:05,239 --> 02:06:09,560
fun well, fucking psycho literally.

2407
02:06:09,399 --> 02:06:11,319
Speaker 14: Yeah, that actually makes me more scared of him than

2408
02:06:11,359 --> 02:06:12,760
anything they ever did on television.

2409
02:06:13,159 --> 02:06:13,359
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2410
02:06:14,760 --> 02:06:17,199
Speaker 14: And finally we go to his peers. These are others

2411
02:06:17,239 --> 02:06:20,000
around the federation, ask to weigh in on what makes

2412
02:06:20,039 --> 02:06:23,680
Sid sid? First up, crush three words? Make Sid a

2413
02:06:23,720 --> 02:06:27,079
great champion, bred a strong, impressive, and psychotic. But he

2414
02:06:27,119 --> 02:06:30,760
will only have the title until I get to him. Okay,

2415
02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:34,600
Brian Adams, Okay, okay, first champion in w FI history

2416
02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:37,960
to have a nose ring running into his ear, and

2417
02:06:38,039 --> 02:06:39,760
then we will see just how strong his heart is.

2418
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:41,720
How about the goon? What does the goon have to say?

2419
02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:42,920
Speaker 5: Psycho?

2420
02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:44,600
Speaker 14: Sid will go a heck of a long way. And

2421
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:47,680
there weren't Wrestling Federation farther than that, sissy boy. We

2422
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:49,920
had as a champion before him. But hey, I wouldn't

2423
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:52,279
mind whacking that paranoid brain of his back in place

2424
02:06:52,319 --> 02:06:58,439
with my hockey stick if given the chance. Savio, Sid

2425
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:00,479
is a great chump because the men try like a

2426
02:07:00,600 --> 02:07:03,319
machine every day. Im Eagle, He's had the hunger inside

2427
02:07:03,359 --> 02:07:05,039
of him for a long time and it's going to

2428
02:07:05,039 --> 02:07:08,239
be hard to get that belt away from him. Shabbia Bubble,

2429
02:07:08,319 --> 02:07:10,520
jjse James. I don't think Sid is going to go

2430
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:12,479
very far as a champion. It was a fluke that

2431
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:14,880
he beat someone with the caliber Shawn Michaels in the

2432
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:17,239
first place. Billy Gunn. He's got the.

2433
02:07:17,279 --> 02:07:19,000
Speaker 5: Size and the skill, but does he truly have the

2434
02:07:19,079 --> 02:07:21,439
talent that I have without a doubt? No why.

2435
02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:24,000
Speaker 14: I don't care what these other idiots think, But once

2436
02:07:24,039 --> 02:07:26,479
Sid stops running and gives me a match, he is

2437
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:30,680
as good as roped cattle in my book. Jake Roberts Boss.

2438
02:07:32,319 --> 02:07:35,600
Speaker 5: I was surprised Sid won the belt, not down his skills,

2439
02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:38,600
but I was amazed he could actually beat Sean. As

2440
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:40,520
far as whether he will be a great champion, it

2441
02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:42,680
just depends on who you match up with. Who you

2442
02:07:42,760 --> 02:07:46,359
match him up with. A champion is only as good

2443
02:07:47,079 --> 02:07:48,319
as the many faces.

2444
02:07:48,119 --> 02:07:50,359
Speaker 14: If Cassidy, only any living man can beat said in

2445
02:07:50,439 --> 02:07:53,119
the long run, except me, Without a doubt, it won't

2446
02:07:53,119 --> 02:07:55,239
be long before I boogy all over his thick skull

2447
02:07:55,279 --> 02:07:57,119
and shine at that nice piece of gold to mount

2448
02:07:57,479 --> 02:08:01,239
on the dashboard of the rockermobile. Don't digressed, No, really,

2449
02:08:01,279 --> 02:08:04,800
you could care less if Sid is a great champion

2450
02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:07,760
or not. If I got a shot against me Da,

2451
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:09,720
I'm sure won't be holding on that belt very low

2452
02:08:10,640 --> 02:08:17,079
on Hurst Helmsley as far as I'm concerned. As far

2453
02:08:17,159 --> 02:08:19,399
as I'm concerned, Sid go lucky.

2454
02:08:21,119 --> 02:08:23,640
Speaker 5: I can't even do his fucking his his idiotic voice.

2455
02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:25,119
He's like in ninety six.

2456
02:08:25,159 --> 02:08:27,760
Speaker 14: We would like did a Hampshire accent, still kind of

2457
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:28,520
creeping in just.

2458
02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:32,720
Speaker 5: A little bit, and his voice is like so like

2459
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:35,000
it's just very weird. It's very weird. It is. It

2460
02:08:35,079 --> 02:08:37,439
doesn't have the base in it yet. Yeah. At the

2461
02:08:37,479 --> 02:08:40,600
Survivor series against Sean Michaels, I don't see him being

2462
02:08:40,640 --> 02:08:44,159
a champion very long due to his mental instability. The

2463
02:08:44,279 --> 02:08:46,600
man should have remained locked up in that sell of

2464
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:51,880
his far away from civil human beings like myself, Mark Merrow,

2465
02:08:52,159 --> 02:08:55,239
you know the very first time I saw said, I

2466
02:08:55,279 --> 02:08:57,159
said to myself, this guy is going to be a

2467
02:08:57,239 --> 02:08:59,159
champion somewhere down the road. I guess I'm not too

2468
02:08:59,199 --> 02:09:01,840
surprised that he beats Sean. But Sid's worst enemy in

2469
02:09:01,880 --> 02:09:05,439
the long run will be himself. Don't get me wrong, though,

2470
02:09:05,520 --> 02:09:11,039
He's the man to beat now jb Al Sid is

2471
02:09:11,039 --> 02:09:13,239
one of the greatest athletic talents our sport has ever seen.

2472
02:09:13,239 --> 02:09:15,640
In the past decade, Sean was great as a champion.

2473
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:17,520
When you look at Sid, you see a man who

2474
02:09:17,600 --> 02:09:20,199
is almost seven feet tall and more than three hundred pounds.

2475
02:09:20,600 --> 02:09:23,560
Speaker 14: Yes, you do, that's true. I've heard that that is

2476
02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:26,079
a major force to reckon with. Boy, we heard from mankind,

2477
02:09:26,159 --> 02:09:28,159
he says. Psycho said, can go straight to some place

2478
02:09:28,239 --> 02:09:31,239
he belongs. Okay, you see, Uncle Paul has alerted me

2479
02:09:31,319 --> 02:09:32,479
to look into Sid's eyes, and do.

2480
02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:35,000
Speaker 5: You know what I see? Fear? That shows me that

2481
02:09:35,079 --> 02:09:38,520
he's not that crazy. After all, He's got the most

2482
02:09:38,600 --> 02:09:41,079
common sense to fear mankind as well. He should.

2483
02:09:41,199 --> 02:09:46,039
Speaker 14: Flash Funk says that I was smoking big fucking hash

2484
02:09:47,239 --> 02:09:49,079
and that Sid will go a long way as World

2485
02:09:49,079 --> 02:09:51,279
Wrestling Federation champion because he is a big man with

2486
02:09:51,399 --> 02:09:53,840
big skills, just like a lot of people say, the

2487
02:09:53,920 --> 02:09:55,720
man is psycho and that's a tough thing to deal

2488
02:09:55,760 --> 02:09:57,399
with in the ring. You never know what that boy

2489
02:09:57,560 --> 02:09:59,199
is going to do to hold on to that belt.

2490
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,199
Garry Lawler says, I'm sure all the inmates back at

2491
02:10:02,239 --> 02:10:04,680
the Looney Band we're proud of that stupid head case.

2492
02:10:05,119 --> 02:10:07,319
He's got the physical skills, but he obviously needs a

2493
02:10:07,399 --> 02:10:08,439
check up from the neck up.

2494
02:10:09,279 --> 02:10:11,800
Speaker 5: I'm at Johnson, that's awful.

2495
02:10:13,119 --> 02:10:15,479
Speaker 14: I'm at Johnson thinks Sid winning the title was something

2496
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:18,039
that was long overdue and that he's gonna go a

2497
02:10:18,119 --> 02:10:20,880
long way because I really can't see anyone stepping up

2498
02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:23,199
to the plate to beat him except me when I

2499
02:10:23,239 --> 02:10:28,199
get the chance. And we hear from Bart Gunn okay,

2500
02:10:28,520 --> 02:10:31,000
we've been waiting for. Sid's got quite a powerful man

2501
02:10:31,079 --> 02:10:33,239
in my book, partner. He's big, tall, and athletic, a

2502
02:10:33,319 --> 02:10:35,880
complete package. I don't see anyone beating him and win

2503
02:10:35,920 --> 02:10:37,920
the Federation and win the Federation title. I just see

2504
02:10:37,960 --> 02:10:40,159
him getting confidence and going stronger as time goes on.

2505
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:43,159
Sonny thinks Sid is going to be a perfect champion

2506
02:10:43,199 --> 02:10:44,279
and the word Wrestling Federation.

2507
02:10:44,359 --> 02:10:44,600
Speaker 5: Honey.

2508
02:10:44,840 --> 02:10:46,359
Speaker 14: Not only does he have the size to be a

2509
02:10:46,399 --> 02:10:53,720
great champion. But he's insane, she would know. After all,

2510
02:10:53,760 --> 02:10:55,439
we are in a land of giants, she says, And

2511
02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:57,720
he's got that attitude you need to win at all costs.

2512
02:10:58,159 --> 02:10:59,439
And hey, you never know what could happen in the

2513
02:10:59,479 --> 02:11:02,000
future between him and me, Babe. Maybe Sunny could be

2514
02:11:02,079 --> 02:11:05,720
ringside for his matches, always recruiting someone with a gold

2515
02:11:06,359 --> 02:11:08,600
I know, right heart, I never saw an eye with

2516
02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:11,600
Sewn Michaels, but I was disappointed all to see his

2517
02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:14,279
reign end like that against Psycho Sid. It's a sad

2518
02:11:14,359 --> 02:11:16,439
state of affairs. A world champion whos worked as hard

2519
02:11:16,479 --> 02:11:19,720
as Sean has can be whacked over the head with

2520
02:11:19,760 --> 02:11:21,640
a camera and power bombed into the mat to lose

2521
02:11:21,720 --> 02:11:23,960
his title. If I were Sid, I would have never

2522
02:11:24,079 --> 02:11:25,840
kept the title. I would have been ashamed to have

2523
02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:28,000
wont it the way he did. Of course, you would

2524
02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:29,960
have mean while he goes on to win titles like that,

2525
02:11:30,319 --> 02:11:34,000
that's SummerSlam in ninety seven. Rocky by via Sid is

2526
02:11:34,039 --> 02:11:37,279
the champion. It's as simple as that. Thanks Rocky, with

2527
02:11:37,359 --> 02:11:39,279
the World Wrestling Federation title around his ways, it tells

2528
02:11:39,319 --> 02:11:40,600
me that he's going to take someone with a lot

2529
02:11:40,640 --> 02:11:42,600
of experience to take a big body like his down

2530
02:11:42,640 --> 02:11:45,479
for the three count. Hopefully I get that chance somewhere

2531
02:11:45,520 --> 02:11:46,000
down the road.

2532
02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:49,359
Speaker 5: I'll not with him. So there you go.

2533
02:11:49,479 --> 02:11:54,039
Speaker 14: In house propaganda as it regards Sid the Spotlight pages

2534
02:11:54,079 --> 02:11:57,039
as World Wrestling Federation Champion, it's the cid Era, boss,

2535
02:11:57,680 --> 02:11:59,680
it is, and we can't we can't talk around it.

2536
02:12:00,079 --> 02:12:03,439
It is the cid Era that magazine giving us a

2537
02:12:03,520 --> 02:12:05,680
look at all kinds of components of the man. After

2538
02:12:05,760 --> 02:12:10,479
Survivor Series on television, Vince doing commentary calls Sid unquestionably

2539
02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:13,600
the most intense man to ever wear the title, and

2540
02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:16,039
Vince and pettent Gil really that's what he says.

2541
02:12:16,119 --> 02:12:17,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, really.

2542
02:12:17,439 --> 02:12:19,079
Speaker 14: On this clip, Vince and Petton Gill are going on

2543
02:12:19,159 --> 02:12:22,399
and on about how Shawn Michaels put compassion for his

2544
02:12:22,560 --> 02:12:26,399
true friend beyond his title ambitions by caring for Jose

2545
02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:29,319
Lothario and that critical moment during the Survivor Series match

2546
02:12:29,359 --> 02:12:32,840
when Lothario had been hit by Sid and Sean took

2547
02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:35,319
his eye off the ball to make sure Lothario was okay.

2548
02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:37,760
And here is Sid speaking for the first time is

2549
02:12:37,920 --> 02:12:42,359
WWF Champion on WWF television, giving his take on how

2550
02:12:42,439 --> 02:12:43,279
to interpret all of that.

2551
02:12:44,359 --> 02:12:46,079
Speaker 4: It's about lad and Tillman.

2552
02:12:46,479 --> 02:12:49,800
Speaker 30: Why you're playing in the world US played veneration Champion.

2553
02:13:00,840 --> 02:13:04,800
Speaker 21: What if the manage last night, albeit controversial, you have

2554
02:13:04,960 --> 02:13:08,079
thousands upon thousands of fans and medicines Square Garden that

2555
02:13:08,199 --> 02:13:10,640
were cheering you on a lot of folks that it

2556
02:13:10,680 --> 02:13:13,680
can never happen that you were too unstable, but that

2557
02:13:13,840 --> 02:13:14,520
was not the case.

2558
02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:15,279
Speaker 4: You are of the Man.

2559
02:13:15,880 --> 02:13:16,920
Speaker 2: It is your time.

2560
02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:20,039
Speaker 4: But do you have any remorse.

2561
02:13:19,880 --> 02:13:22,600
Speaker 21: Over your accents last night as it relates to Sean

2562
02:13:22,640 --> 02:13:25,279
Michaels or the sixty two year old Josela Thario.

2563
02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:27,079
Speaker 3: I got to say no.

2564
02:13:27,319 --> 02:13:31,079
Speaker 11: The reason why that's because JOSEI I made I have

2565
02:13:31,199 --> 02:13:34,359
played respect for but you put your ass.

2566
02:13:34,279 --> 02:13:38,760
Speaker 30: On the apron and then you even came for the game.

2567
02:13:39,840 --> 02:13:40,479
Speaker 6: And then when you.

2568
02:13:40,560 --> 02:13:44,600
Speaker 11: Play the game with the Man, they only the three

2569
02:13:45,039 --> 02:13:45,880
can't count with that?

2570
02:13:46,279 --> 02:13:48,720
Speaker 2: Yes, what of the Michaels.

2571
02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:51,199
Speaker 13: What about a rematch with a heartbreak kid?

2572
02:13:52,399 --> 02:13:56,199
Speaker 19: Yeah, heartbreak kin. You want a rematch, you got it.

2573
02:13:56,520 --> 02:13:59,840
Speaker 11: I'll beat you once and then that time I'll beat

2574
02:13:59,880 --> 02:14:02,880
you again because I am.

2575
02:14:07,600 --> 02:14:12,119
Speaker 20: Because I am the man, will I am the master.

2576
02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:15,399
Speaker 3: And the ruler of the world.

2577
02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:21,600
Speaker 21: Seventy superstars are lining up to challenge you. Vader song Co,

2578
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:26,680
Steve Austin, the Undertaker, and on December fifteenth, the legendary

2579
02:14:26,960 --> 02:14:28,520
Britt the Hitman Heart.

2580
02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:32,319
Speaker 30: We'll go hold on round with here, Wwrcyle.

2581
02:14:32,720 --> 02:14:35,359
Speaker 4: Are you going to be a fighting champion?

2582
02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:37,039
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something.

2583
02:14:37,680 --> 02:14:41,079
Speaker 11: I was dever o'clock to wrestle again. Beat me, Boll

2584
02:14:41,159 --> 02:14:46,239
called me back. Stephen Bieball made me and Jef ben

2585
02:14:47,479 --> 02:14:53,960
be for the baseball. I will be my fighting jafman.

2586
02:14:55,319 --> 02:14:56,239
Speaker 5: Who have hurt out.

2587
02:14:56,199 --> 02:15:00,239
Speaker 21: Brett Hart specifically, he's looking to Rigga the ww.

2588
02:15:00,079 --> 02:15:02,319
Speaker 30: A Poddle for the fourth time.

2589
02:15:06,039 --> 02:15:13,560
Speaker 16: Brett, my friend, you're trying to make comportunity. You're trying

2590
02:15:13,600 --> 02:15:16,039
to make retiputation to going.

2591
02:15:15,880 --> 02:15:16,720
Speaker 3: Through this store.

2592
02:15:19,680 --> 02:15:24,560
Speaker 11: Will you wrestling come back in the Wrestling World Wrestling

2593
02:15:24,640 --> 02:15:30,880
Federation will end like that on December fifteenth, because you

2594
02:15:31,039 --> 02:15:35,079
have to face me, Britain Man, hit Man, Brickman.

2595
02:15:35,920 --> 02:15:37,199
Speaker 5: You have to face me.

2596
02:15:39,800 --> 02:15:40,439
Speaker 4: The Master.

2597
02:15:41,600 --> 02:15:45,840
Speaker 16: The game is simple, my friend. Two minutes there, one

2598
02:15:45,920 --> 02:15:53,520
man survives the Decemblar system. When the snow clears, I

2599
02:15:53,680 --> 02:15:58,840
will be standing firm the Master, and I am a ruler.

2600
02:15:59,399 --> 02:16:05,119
Speaker 4: By the who You're your world wrestling flight end.

2601
02:16:06,479 --> 02:16:22,319
Speaker 1: He's the Lapsed Fall wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that

2602
02:16:22,479 --> 02:16:25,920
knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan.

2603
02:16:40,639 --> 02:16:44,520
He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio

2604
02:16:44,920 --> 02:16:45,920
and JPI Sooro.

2605
02:16:46,840 --> 02:16:50,200
Speaker 5: So yeah, hardly a home run there, No, not at all.

2606
02:16:50,319 --> 02:16:52,120
That was a awful Remember what.

2607
02:16:52,239 --> 02:16:54,079
Speaker 14: Jim Cornette said, It wrings in our head right why

2608
02:16:54,159 --> 02:16:56,000
he had to be paired with Million Dollar Man because

2609
02:16:56,399 --> 02:17:00,559
right beyond delivering an explosive one minute of xatives, so

2610
02:17:00,719 --> 02:17:04,440
to speak, Sid really can't remember everything he's supposed to

2611
02:17:04,680 --> 02:17:07,879
hit on the promos, the data, Michelle, the opponent, he

2612
02:17:08,000 --> 02:17:12,000
says master and Ruler of the world twice. It's not

2613
02:17:12,239 --> 02:17:13,719
the kind of promo you hope to hear from a

2614
02:17:13,760 --> 02:17:17,239
guy who just won the world title for the first time, right,

2615
02:17:17,559 --> 02:17:20,639
not at all. We're on this track and they're setting

2616
02:17:20,719 --> 02:17:22,760
up the Royal Rumble, which of course was in January

2617
02:17:22,799 --> 02:17:25,440
of nineteen ninety seven at the Alamo Dome in San Antonio, Texas.

2618
02:17:25,879 --> 02:17:28,959
Very ambitious venue for the WWF to run for a rumble,

2619
02:17:29,239 --> 02:17:33,600
especially in this time period where they were struggling, especially VISAVWCW,

2620
02:17:34,159 --> 02:17:36,319
but the whole attraction to Sean Michaels. The San Antonio

2621
02:17:36,360 --> 02:17:38,600
boy is going to get his rematch against Sid if

2622
02:17:39,159 --> 02:17:41,280
Sid emerges from the title match against Brett Hart at

2623
02:17:41,280 --> 02:17:43,760
the its time in your House as champion. They had

2624
02:17:43,840 --> 02:17:47,079
kind of a tough time kind of basically telling San

2625
02:17:47,079 --> 02:17:49,479
Antonio that they were going to get Sean getting revenge

2626
02:17:49,559 --> 02:17:53,920
on Sid without right right for running the result of

2627
02:17:53,959 --> 02:17:56,840
the Brett match. So they're threading that needle carefully through

2628
02:17:56,879 --> 02:18:00,200
the winter of nineteen ninety six. But that's already in place.

2629
02:18:00,239 --> 02:18:01,840
The venue is booked and they got to start moving tickets.

2630
02:18:01,879 --> 02:18:03,639
They've got to start convincing people that this is going

2631
02:18:03,680 --> 02:18:06,280
to be a big homecoming and a big thing to

2632
02:18:06,360 --> 02:18:08,959
be there for to see Shawn Michaels achieve. So they

2633
02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:11,920
set up a big old press conference in San Antonio

2634
02:18:12,600 --> 02:18:15,879
and you know, the Alamo theme is there. They introduce

2635
02:18:15,920 --> 02:18:18,000
a lot of the Triple A wrestlers. Remember in that

2636
02:18:18,079 --> 02:18:19,959
rumble Boss, they brought in a lot of lootra doors.

2637
02:18:20,799 --> 02:18:21,000
Speaker 2: Yep.

2638
02:18:21,079 --> 02:18:23,680
Speaker 5: I remember, not a fan, but I remember.

2639
02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:26,319
Speaker 14: Forged a promotional alliance hopefully to get a little bit

2640
02:18:26,360 --> 02:18:29,280
of the you know, the Mexican fans to cross over

2641
02:18:29,440 --> 02:18:31,239
and come to the show and help fill the building up,

2642
02:18:31,600 --> 02:18:34,840
get some some buzz going on on Mexican wrestling television

2643
02:18:34,840 --> 02:18:36,840
as well as their own television network for the show,

2644
02:18:37,440 --> 02:18:41,120
and that all starts to blossom. And of course the

2645
02:18:41,239 --> 02:18:43,879
dais is there for Sewn and Sid to carry on

2646
02:18:44,559 --> 02:18:48,040
and to get people fired up for the show. Problem

2647
02:18:48,200 --> 02:18:51,399
is Brett's there as well, of course, because he's got

2648
02:18:51,520 --> 02:18:54,319
to keep open the possibility that he's going to go

2649
02:18:54,360 --> 02:18:58,239
into the the Royal Rumble show is Champion. But missing

2650
02:18:59,399 --> 02:19:02,719
from the day, missing from the press conference for the

2651
02:19:02,799 --> 02:19:03,959
nineteen ninety seven Royal.

2652
02:19:03,879 --> 02:19:07,479
Speaker 5: Rumble was Sid. Oh thank god.

2653
02:19:08,399 --> 02:19:13,719
Speaker 14: They play this package on their television show about how

2654
02:19:13,840 --> 02:19:16,760
huge this press conference was and how impactful it is

2655
02:19:17,520 --> 02:19:18,920
and how Sean's going to get a shot at the

2656
02:19:18,959 --> 02:19:22,360
championship against whoever may be the champion, And the champion

2657
02:19:22,440 --> 02:19:26,799
isn't there, and you might ask yourself, what kind of

2658
02:19:26,840 --> 02:19:30,239
game is he playing? We've seen this from Sid, we

2659
02:19:30,360 --> 02:19:34,159
studied his career thus far. Yes, or, according to Bruce Pritchard,

2660
02:19:34,200 --> 02:19:36,559
who was in the front office at the time, the

2661
02:19:36,680 --> 02:19:39,760
reason for Sid's absence much more prosaic.

2662
02:19:41,520 --> 02:19:44,319
Speaker 25: Well, he overslept.

2663
02:19:45,920 --> 02:19:48,760
Speaker 4: And that was that was it.

2664
02:19:48,920 --> 02:19:50,920
Speaker 25: It was like what's the big deal. It's a press conference.

2665
02:19:51,840 --> 02:19:57,520
Speaker 31: Well, we had done TV in the next day, myself, Vince, Sean,

2666
02:20:00,200 --> 02:20:02,239
I think the marketing people were already there. But we

2667
02:20:02,360 --> 02:20:08,319
all get on the plane in Hartford and looking around

2668
02:20:08,399 --> 02:20:10,040
and I'm saying, where the hell Sid?

2669
02:20:10,840 --> 02:20:14,000
Speaker 25: There's no Sid. We're trying to find out, were you

2670
02:20:14,159 --> 02:20:15,079
s SID? Last night?

2671
02:20:15,200 --> 02:20:18,319
Speaker 31: It's like no, And a couple of the boys were

2672
02:20:19,040 --> 02:20:21,920
in the airport and I'm asking, I'm going down the

2673
02:20:22,120 --> 02:20:25,360
aisle asking anybody anybody's seen Sid. Didn't see him? Didn't

2674
02:20:25,360 --> 02:20:30,520
see him? Very uncharacteristic for Sid. Well, we get on

2675
02:20:30,639 --> 02:20:34,120
the plane. We're calling all the hotels in the area.

2676
02:20:34,559 --> 02:20:35,040
Speaker 25: No Sid.

2677
02:20:36,680 --> 02:20:39,600
Speaker 31: We all three get on the plane, myself, Vince, and Sean,

2678
02:20:40,639 --> 02:20:45,000
and we go down for this huge press conference. Man,

2679
02:20:45,120 --> 02:20:49,840
we had this square in downtown San Antonio, this beautiful

2680
02:20:50,079 --> 02:20:53,719
Spanish square, all rented out to make the announcement of

2681
02:20:53,840 --> 02:20:57,000
Shawn Michaels, you know, coming home and all this bullshit.

2682
02:20:57,399 --> 02:21:01,719
Speaker 25: He's gonna face Psycho Sid and no world champion.

2683
02:21:03,280 --> 02:21:07,440
Speaker 31: And finally Vince gets a hold of him around noon

2684
02:21:07,559 --> 02:21:10,280
one o'clock and he just was like, I guess I overslept.

2685
02:21:11,040 --> 02:21:14,040
Speaker 25: I guess so Vince was pretty fucking pissed, to say

2686
02:21:14,079 --> 02:21:14,799
the very least.

2687
02:21:14,840 --> 02:21:17,440
Speaker 31: And we we had Antonio Pena from Triple A and

2688
02:21:18,000 --> 02:21:19,680
a lot of the Triple A guys there.

2689
02:21:19,879 --> 02:21:21,120
Speaker 25: We made it work.

2690
02:21:21,399 --> 02:21:25,600
Speaker 31: But if you'd imagine today the champion no showing a

2691
02:21:25,680 --> 02:21:26,920
major press conference for a.

2692
02:21:26,959 --> 02:21:29,639
Speaker 25: Major pay per view, it just wouldn't happen.

2693
02:21:29,760 --> 02:21:32,159
Speaker 31: And that was when Vince was kind of like, well,

2694
02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:35,879
only a little while longer than he's going to be

2695
02:21:36,559 --> 02:21:37,879
in that position, and.

2696
02:21:39,479 --> 02:21:40,799
Speaker 25: Bit the bullet and we moved on.

2697
02:21:41,079 --> 02:21:44,600
Speaker 31: But that was a major fuck up, and that was

2698
02:21:44,719 --> 02:21:46,799
one that kind of stuck in Vince's craws for a

2699
02:21:46,879 --> 02:21:51,040
while because Seawan was had been out. Sean stayed up

2700
02:21:51,079 --> 02:21:53,879
all night long with Austin and they had been drinking

2701
02:21:53,920 --> 02:21:59,159
all night, and Sean was showed up, had been drinking

2702
02:21:59,200 --> 02:22:02,360
all night, pretty fucked up, got on the plane and

2703
02:22:02,479 --> 02:22:06,000
he made it. But yet, you know, Sid, the guy

2704
02:22:06,040 --> 02:22:08,239
that doesn't go out and party, the guy that is,

2705
02:22:08,440 --> 02:22:11,879
you know, mister reliable, no shows and can't be found

2706
02:22:11,920 --> 02:22:14,799
and just thinks it's okay to say I overslept.

2707
02:22:14,879 --> 02:22:19,200
Speaker 25: It was just a press conference. So that was again

2708
02:22:19,319 --> 02:22:22,280
one of those beginning of the ends in a lot

2709
02:22:22,319 --> 02:22:22,879
of respects.

2710
02:22:23,719 --> 02:22:26,959
Speaker 5: I can't imagine why Sid never got his Just do boss, Yeah,

2711
02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:30,760
I know, right, unbelievable. Why do not get that six

2712
02:22:30,879 --> 02:22:35,520
month run? Well, well, Pallyannoi, you did oversleep the.

2713
02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:38,479
Speaker 3: That doesn't matter.

2714
02:22:41,159 --> 02:22:42,520
Speaker 5: It kind of doesn't matter. I mean, you know, we

2715
02:22:42,639 --> 02:22:50,840
have we have the shot exactly exactly the shat you

2716
02:22:50,920 --> 02:22:54,479
think that works on everybody and on everything. He thinks

2717
02:22:54,520 --> 02:22:56,840
it works. Of course Coruly does.

2718
02:22:57,840 --> 02:23:00,319
Speaker 14: So they're trying to get tickets sold for this rumble

2719
02:23:00,360 --> 02:23:03,600
and they don't have a champ there. You know, Bruce,

2720
02:23:03,600 --> 02:23:05,200
I think is kind of putting the card before the

2721
02:23:05,239 --> 02:23:08,600
horse a bit one, suggesting that they were announcing Sid

2722
02:23:08,680 --> 02:23:11,280
and Sean because they still have the the It's time

2723
02:23:11,319 --> 02:23:14,639
thing to get through with. But in the NAPTI Convention,

2724
02:23:14,760 --> 02:23:17,319
the National Association of Television Producers, where you know, you know,

2725
02:23:17,440 --> 02:23:19,319
Vince would always set up a booth and Breck would

2726
02:23:19,319 --> 02:23:21,120
set up a booth, and they would have this big

2727
02:23:21,200 --> 02:23:24,360
show for television to sell their television ad time, mostly

2728
02:23:24,479 --> 02:23:28,559
in syndicated side. Sid apparently was there representing the WWBF.

2729
02:23:28,639 --> 02:23:30,120
This took place, according to the records I could find,

2730
02:23:30,159 --> 02:23:32,600
on January fourteenth of the fifteenth, nineteen ninety seven in

2731
02:23:32,680 --> 02:23:35,520
New Orleans, Louisiana. Sid calls out the NAPTI convention in

2732
02:23:35,559 --> 02:23:37,639
New Orleans when I'm talking about this and shoot interviews,

2733
02:23:37,799 --> 02:23:39,520
And it was during this period of time, which I

2734
02:23:39,559 --> 02:23:43,079
believe is subsequent to the aforementioned San Antonio press conference,

2735
02:23:43,440 --> 02:23:46,239
that he kind of talked it through as far as

2736
02:23:46,239 --> 02:23:48,360
where they're going for this show and where they're going

2737
02:23:48,479 --> 02:23:51,559
for Sid's title reign in his short term future. And

2738
02:23:51,680 --> 02:23:54,040
again to hear Sid tell it, he talked himself into

2739
02:23:54,079 --> 02:23:56,399
thinking that he actually could get a run, that there

2740
02:23:56,479 --> 02:23:59,920
was a way out of this, this this title win

2741
02:24:00,319 --> 02:24:02,399
that didn't involve him losing it directly back to Sean

2742
02:24:02,479 --> 02:24:05,319
and San Antonio. And here in an R video shoot interview,

2743
02:24:05,399 --> 02:24:08,040
Sid what counts talking to Vince McMahon at the NAPTI

2744
02:24:08,079 --> 02:24:11,079
convention about what was about to happen to his first

2745
02:24:11,479 --> 02:24:12,559
WWF title run.

2746
02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:16,559
Speaker 15: Now, because that was the idea, you know, I guess

2747
02:24:17,120 --> 02:24:20,920
I hear say that Sean's dream was to be in

2748
02:24:20,959 --> 02:24:23,239
a big show like that in his hometown.

2749
02:24:23,879 --> 02:24:24,239
Speaker 26: All Right.

2750
02:24:24,760 --> 02:24:28,239
Speaker 15: The agreement was this, I take the belt at Survivor

2751
02:24:28,360 --> 02:24:30,440
series and we'd keep it only as long as I

2752
02:24:30,559 --> 02:24:37,559
was drawn. Okay, going to the Nazi Convention or wherever

2753
02:24:37,559 --> 02:24:41,319
it's called, the New Orleans representing the WWF, you know,

2754
02:24:43,120 --> 02:24:45,799
one day and Vincent I went in and we were talking.

2755
02:24:45,879 --> 02:24:48,799
Speaker 7: He said, said, he's right, two uns for you.

2756
02:24:48,920 --> 02:24:53,639
Speaker 15: Drop that belt back to Sean and san Antonio. I said, Evince,

2757
02:24:53,680 --> 02:24:55,520
I said, you say the things were core good that

2758
02:24:55,639 --> 02:24:58,040
you know, we want to think about it at least

2759
02:24:58,120 --> 02:25:00,959
or talk about it. He said, no, See what I'm

2760
02:25:00,959 --> 02:25:03,799
gonna do is this this is on down. We're gonna

2761
02:25:03,920 --> 02:25:07,239
drop it on me, putting on there, and then we're

2762
02:25:07,239 --> 02:25:09,120
gonna do a thirteen hour roll and each will put

2763
02:25:09,120 --> 02:25:12,319
it back on you there. And that was my understanding.

2764
02:25:13,319 --> 02:25:16,040
Speaker 18: Was and that they did have all they had. The

2765
02:25:16,120 --> 02:25:18,920
Thursday night wrong was scheduled but didn't go as planned.

2766
02:25:19,840 --> 02:25:22,280
You know, Sean came out and gave the classic interview

2767
02:25:22,319 --> 02:25:24,719
about losing his smile and never wound up, you know,

2768
02:25:25,040 --> 02:25:26,000
losing the title that night.

2769
02:25:26,159 --> 02:25:29,159
Speaker 5: Was there any personal resignment from you towards Sewn.

2770
02:25:29,159 --> 02:25:31,319
Speaker 15: No that night, not Mae, because they'll tell you what

2771
02:25:31,399 --> 02:25:33,799
this step my business, that's his business, and that's what

2772
02:25:34,000 --> 02:25:36,399
I don't nobody in my business. If I want to

2773
02:25:37,239 --> 02:25:39,440
do a no show or I want to fucking cuss

2774
02:25:39,520 --> 02:25:43,200
up promotion. You know, I want my freedom to do

2775
02:25:43,280 --> 02:25:46,319
what I want to do if I want, you know whatever.

2776
02:25:46,639 --> 02:25:50,280
I don't judge anybody, but that's Sean. That's what Sean

2777
02:25:50,360 --> 02:25:53,479
want to do. More power shot. It didn't bother me

2778
02:25:53,559 --> 02:25:59,159
at all, you know. Uh, of course it's unprofessional, but

2779
02:25:59,440 --> 02:26:02,239
you know didn't because it pays the same.

2780
02:26:02,479 --> 02:26:03,319
Speaker 17: Right, you know what I mean?

2781
02:26:03,719 --> 02:26:03,840
Speaker 16: Right?

2782
02:26:04,559 --> 02:26:07,120
Speaker 18: And the only reason I asked is because it's now

2783
02:26:07,200 --> 02:26:09,520
infamous about the problems that Brent and Sean had behind

2784
02:26:09,520 --> 02:26:12,000
the scenes, and it seemed like it's them from Sean

2785
02:26:12,079 --> 02:26:13,920
not wanted to put Brett back over and Brett take

2786
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:16,719
it personally. That's why I asked with you. And you

2787
02:26:16,799 --> 02:26:19,959
actually did some three ways with Breton Sean. Could you

2788
02:26:20,079 --> 02:26:23,079
sense any tension between the two during the Three Ways?

2789
02:26:23,239 --> 02:26:31,680
Speaker 15: Yeah, I was putting little situations like but uh, we

2790
02:26:31,799 --> 02:26:34,719
all came out of it every night pretty good. It

2791
02:26:34,840 --> 02:26:36,719
was a weird batch for it. Who booked out pretty good?

2792
02:26:38,680 --> 02:26:38,840
Speaker 16: Yeah?

2793
02:26:38,840 --> 02:26:40,120
Speaker 14: I mean he said he was always put in the

2794
02:26:40,120 --> 02:26:42,000
middle of these situations. That's what we were saying.

2795
02:26:42,920 --> 02:26:45,840
Speaker 5: Yep, it's so fucking funny. I think part of the.

2796
02:26:45,879 --> 02:26:48,000
Speaker 14: Reason that you were so jarred back in the day

2797
02:26:48,200 --> 02:26:50,360
as to why Sean suddenly didn't have the belt anymore,

2798
02:26:50,479 --> 02:26:56,799
is what he just said. It was a Thursday night Raw. Yeah, right, exactly,

2799
02:26:56,840 --> 02:26:59,639
That's definitely it. Like I missed that Thursday Night Raw.

2800
02:27:00,159 --> 02:27:03,920
I didn't watch it. I forgot all about it for

2801
02:27:03,959 --> 02:27:06,600
whatever reason on that Mondays.

2802
02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:10,159
Speaker 5: US Open or Dog Show whatever, right, and so you know,

2803
02:27:10,760 --> 02:27:15,440
you know, for me, I was watching. You know, the

2804
02:27:15,520 --> 02:27:18,520
last time I saw I saw the WW would have

2805
02:27:18,559 --> 02:27:21,920
been the Monday previous, so two weeks had gone by

2806
02:27:22,479 --> 02:27:28,559
for me before I realized that Shawn Michaels gave up

2807
02:27:28,559 --> 02:27:33,000
the belt and Brettheart was a champion at Thursday Raw. Thursday.

2808
02:27:33,799 --> 02:27:36,440
Speaker 14: Yep, that was a very memorable night for a lot

2809
02:27:36,479 --> 02:27:39,239
of reasons. It was live's Lowell mass. Sean does the

2810
02:27:39,719 --> 02:27:42,559
the infamous I've lost my smile speech and relinquishes the belt,

2811
02:27:42,600 --> 02:27:45,000
having tweaked his knee in one of the aforementioned triple

2812
02:27:45,040 --> 02:27:48,680
threat matches off television with Brett Hart and sid that

2813
02:27:48,760 --> 02:27:52,920
they were doing around the horn, and he, uh, you know,

2814
02:27:53,079 --> 02:27:54,879
does it heartfelt speech in the ring and gives the

2815
02:27:54,920 --> 02:27:57,760
championship to events and leaves and they do the whole

2816
02:27:57,799 --> 02:28:00,399
tell Me a Live thing again where Sean leaves before

2817
02:28:00,760 --> 02:28:04,719
he's supposed to. And yeah, according to what Sid says there,

2818
02:28:04,760 --> 02:28:06,760
and according to the advertising going in, as we'll get to,

2819
02:28:06,920 --> 02:28:08,920
it was supposed to be Shawn Michael's versus Sid for

2820
02:28:09,040 --> 02:28:11,760
the title in the rematch on Thursday Raw Thursday, and

2821
02:28:11,879 --> 02:28:13,879
Sid was supposed to do, at least according to the

2822
02:28:14,079 --> 02:28:16,600
conversation he just recounted with Vince win the title back

2823
02:28:16,639 --> 02:28:18,959
on that show. He doesn't, of course, end up winning

2824
02:28:19,000 --> 02:28:21,200
it until the show We're going to Deep Dive next,

2825
02:28:21,239 --> 02:28:24,120
the February seventeenth Raw. This one took place a little

2826
02:28:24,120 --> 02:28:26,760
earlier in February. That's also the night where Rocky my

2827
02:28:26,879 --> 02:28:29,920
Via wins the Intercontinental title for the first time, right

2828
02:28:30,120 --> 02:28:33,520
beating Triple H and thus really accelerating the Die Rocky

2829
02:28:33,600 --> 02:28:35,799
Die fan backlash, which is part and parcel of the

2830
02:28:35,879 --> 02:28:38,879
same phenomenon that we were just talking about, with the

2831
02:28:38,959 --> 02:28:40,280
fan siding with Sid over Sean.

2832
02:28:41,520 --> 02:28:43,239
Speaker 5: And Yeah, it's very true. That's a good point.

2833
02:28:43,239 --> 02:28:45,040
Speaker 14: It's all happening in real time. It ends up being

2834
02:28:46,200 --> 02:28:47,920
Sid and yes, Sid and stone Cold in the main

2835
02:28:47,959 --> 02:28:51,719
event of Thursday Raw Thursday, instead of really Sean. Yeah,

2836
02:28:53,440 --> 02:28:56,479
and I don't know if I've ever seen the entire thing. Actually, yeah,

2837
02:28:56,600 --> 02:28:59,319
it's quite it's quite a memorable night. Prickly in retrospect

2838
02:29:00,040 --> 02:29:02,239
did a lot of stuff that ended up having ramifications.

2839
02:29:02,280 --> 02:29:03,680
They go back to that show a lot, you know,

2840
02:29:03,760 --> 02:29:05,040
and telling histories and stuff.

2841
02:29:05,319 --> 02:29:08,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, it's always a thing.

2842
02:29:09,040 --> 02:29:12,159
Speaker 14: Now, Bruce takes a little bit of exception, saying, you know,

2843
02:29:12,280 --> 02:29:16,200
this idea because Conrad references this interview and says that

2844
02:29:16,319 --> 02:29:18,280
Sid was under the impression that as long as he

2845
02:29:18,360 --> 02:29:20,559
was drawing his champion that he would continue having the strap,

2846
02:29:20,639 --> 02:29:23,120
and Bruce, I think rightfully pushes back and says, no,

2847
02:29:23,639 --> 02:29:27,120
it was always the idea. Everyone knew before Sid even

2848
02:29:27,159 --> 02:29:28,920
beat Sean, that it was always a plan for Sid

2849
02:29:28,920 --> 02:29:32,319
to drop the title Sean and san Antonio. And there

2850
02:29:32,399 --> 02:29:34,200
was never this proviso that if you were drawing, we're

2851
02:29:34,200 --> 02:29:35,879
going to leave it on you. That was never ever

2852
02:29:35,959 --> 02:29:38,360
the case. He says, from our point of view, his

2853
02:29:38,479 --> 02:29:41,159
talent was aware of that. Talent talent was aware of

2854
02:29:41,200 --> 02:29:42,799
what we were going to do between Survivor's series and

2855
02:29:42,840 --> 02:29:44,079
the World Rumble and what we were going to do

2856
02:29:44,120 --> 02:29:46,040
at the Rumble, so that it just doesn't hold any

2857
02:29:46,120 --> 02:29:49,600
water to suggest anything. You know that there was any

2858
02:29:49,639 --> 02:29:52,159
other plan other than that, and I think that's very clear.

2859
02:29:52,200 --> 02:29:55,440
I mean, there's no way you book Alamodome and put

2860
02:29:55,479 --> 02:29:58,120
Sean in the main event and there's even a centil

2861
02:29:58,159 --> 02:30:00,239
of a chance that he doesn't win the championship.

2862
02:30:00,040 --> 02:30:02,319
Speaker 5: Of course, I mean, or you know, yeah, it needs

2863
02:30:02,360 --> 02:30:03,440
to be exactly.

2864
02:30:03,280 --> 02:30:05,559
Speaker 14: Exactly would be fucking death if they didn't have the

2865
02:30:05,600 --> 02:30:10,360
happy ending there. And there's hardly in the early days,

2866
02:30:10,959 --> 02:30:14,680
hardly any meditation on WIF television around Sid's era. You know,

2867
02:30:14,760 --> 02:30:17,079
they're not really trying to tell the fans that this

2868
02:30:17,159 --> 02:30:19,319
could be the beginning of a long rain. Not initially

2869
02:30:19,479 --> 02:30:22,280
they don't say that, and of course that's probably because

2870
02:30:22,319 --> 02:30:25,760
it wasn't supposed to be. But it's so obvious when

2871
02:30:25,799 --> 02:30:27,680
you actually go back and watch all this stuff and

2872
02:30:27,760 --> 02:30:31,120
realize everything about Sid is equal parts about Sean Michaels.

2873
02:30:32,120 --> 02:30:35,479
Anything they say about Sid is just the entree to

2874
02:30:35,600 --> 02:30:38,040
point out that he cheated by attacking Jose Thethario, and

2875
02:30:38,120 --> 02:30:41,159
thus Shawn Michaels shouldn't be demerited for losing the title

2876
02:30:41,200 --> 02:30:44,159
to Sid, because he lost it because he cared more

2877
02:30:44,239 --> 02:30:47,680
for his mentor in this old Man than he did

2878
02:30:47,680 --> 02:30:50,000
the championship and it's all about Sean, even though sid

2879
02:30:50,079 --> 02:30:52,680
now was walking around his champion. There was a satellite

2880
02:30:52,719 --> 02:30:56,280
interview where they they asked, Sean, who's now starting to

2881
02:30:56,319 --> 02:30:57,959
show you know, he's starting to wear the stubble, he's

2882
02:30:57,959 --> 02:31:00,520
starting to show a lot more grit on it interviews

2883
02:31:00,559 --> 02:31:01,159
he started.

2884
02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:04,040
Speaker 5: I mean, he's he I think I talked about this

2885
02:31:04,120 --> 02:31:07,200
when we did the ninety six Survivor series. He actually

2886
02:31:07,239 --> 02:31:08,760
made me nervous that he was going to turn here.

2887
02:31:08,840 --> 02:31:12,319
Yeah you're saying, and before or after the match? After

2888
02:31:12,399 --> 02:31:14,399
the match? Yes, when he started, because he started acting

2889
02:31:14,440 --> 02:31:17,959
a lot like Kevin Nash did when he lost about

2890
02:31:17,959 --> 02:31:20,799
the year prior. That's the same playbook. And I was like,

2891
02:31:20,920 --> 02:31:24,479
oh god, they're going to do this now, right, not Sean,

2892
02:31:25,120 --> 02:31:28,040
He's my new Hogan. Amazing. Why do they keep doing

2893
02:31:28,120 --> 02:31:28,440
this to me?

2894
02:31:28,600 --> 02:31:30,520
Speaker 14: It's weird They went that place with him, considering there

2895
02:31:30,559 --> 02:31:32,879
was the Cinderella finish coming up at the Alamodome.

2896
02:31:33,680 --> 02:31:34,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, exactly.

2897
02:31:34,879 --> 02:31:36,680
Speaker 14: But he starts acting out. I think Sean, you know,

2898
02:31:36,719 --> 02:31:38,319
you read his book and hear him talk about the zero.

2899
02:31:38,520 --> 02:31:38,920
Speaker 5: He was so.

2900
02:31:40,760 --> 02:31:44,200
Speaker 14: At his own head about the presentation being all wrong.

2901
02:31:44,520 --> 02:31:47,840
You know that this playing to you know, screaming teenage

2902
02:31:47,879 --> 02:31:50,040
girls and being a boy toy and stuff that it

2903
02:31:50,120 --> 02:31:51,959
was very clear after ninety six was done that that

2904
02:31:52,079 --> 02:31:53,719
was not going to be his meal ticket. You know,

2905
02:31:53,799 --> 02:31:56,159
that was not going to be the kind of presentation

2906
02:31:56,879 --> 02:32:00,319
that was going to leave him perceived. He does a

2907
02:32:00,399 --> 02:32:03,479
really successful champion, and he was always very insecure about

2908
02:32:03,920 --> 02:32:06,399
being accepted at the level his predecessors.

2909
02:32:05,840 --> 02:32:07,479
Speaker 5: Were as a champion. That's a big thing.

2910
02:32:07,600 --> 02:32:10,440
Speaker 14: We finally get the strap and we heard, like Isaacady

2911
02:32:10,440 --> 02:32:15,159
Guerrero for instance, struggle endlessly with feeling unworthy of having

2912
02:32:15,239 --> 02:32:17,319
the belt. And for Sean, I mean, I think that

2913
02:32:17,479 --> 02:32:19,120
is a huge part and we did a lot of

2914
02:32:19,120 --> 02:32:21,440
the psychoanalysis of this when we did the ninety seven journey.

2915
02:32:21,920 --> 02:32:23,760
A huge part of why there was tension with Brett

2916
02:32:23,920 --> 02:32:26,719
is because Sean, when push came to CHEF never really

2917
02:32:26,799 --> 02:32:31,239
felt like Brett was sincere in saying that Sean was

2918
02:32:31,239 --> 02:32:33,600
going to be able to carry the WWF the way

2919
02:32:33,639 --> 02:32:37,559
Brett did as champion, and that he never really never

2920
02:32:37,719 --> 02:32:40,879
really did the things that Sean would have expected him

2921
02:32:40,920 --> 02:32:43,159
to do to give him that boost and that acceptance

2922
02:32:43,200 --> 02:32:45,719
and that endorsement, and he was always waiting for it,

2923
02:32:45,760 --> 02:32:47,239
and he was always waiting for it, and when he

2924
02:32:47,559 --> 02:32:49,200
finally didn't get it, over a period of time, he

2925
02:32:49,280 --> 02:32:51,319
started acting out. And I think by the Winner of

2926
02:32:51,399 --> 02:32:53,639
ninety six we're starting to see that where Sean is

2927
02:32:54,000 --> 02:32:57,639
acting so much more. It's kind of like a preemptively

2928
02:32:57,719 --> 02:33:00,760
defensive and everything he says on television, and I have

2929
02:33:00,840 --> 02:33:02,760
to believe this is before every line was scripted for

2930
02:33:02,840 --> 02:33:04,399
these guys. I have to believe that part of that

2931
02:33:04,520 --> 02:33:06,520
is Sean trying to really go in a business himself

2932
02:33:06,559 --> 02:33:10,040
to some degree and framing his presentation differently considering how

2933
02:33:10,680 --> 02:33:14,040
massive the crowd rejection was in you know, the leading

2934
02:33:14,079 --> 02:33:17,440
litmus test arena for Vince Madison, Square Garden. So he's

2935
02:33:17,440 --> 02:33:20,159
talking about in the satellite interview as they're asking him,

2936
02:33:20,159 --> 02:33:21,840
did it throw you off that so many fans were

2937
02:33:21,879 --> 02:33:24,280
cheering sid And he's saying, it didn't throw me off.

2938
02:33:24,280 --> 02:33:26,040
I always said, I want the fans at WWF to

2939
02:33:26,159 --> 02:33:28,360
enjoy themselves. If I can't provide what wouldn't make them

2940
02:33:28,440 --> 02:33:30,399
enjoy themselves, then they can get it from somewhere else.

2941
02:33:30,440 --> 02:33:32,360
I want the people behind me, but I will not

2942
02:33:32,520 --> 02:33:35,079
beg the people to be behind me. So he's starting

2943
02:33:35,079 --> 02:33:36,840
to get that streak of like that fuck you.

2944
02:33:37,280 --> 02:33:39,760
Speaker 5: Right, it's in again. It made me very nervous.

2945
02:33:40,159 --> 02:33:42,879
Speaker 14: And they go to London and very nervous. And when

2946
02:33:42,879 --> 02:33:44,959
they were there they shoot some TV and Steve Austin

2947
02:33:45,000 --> 02:33:46,879
actually hit Sid with the belt. There was a little

2948
02:33:46,959 --> 02:33:51,719
mini Sid Austin feud during all this that's kind of

2949
02:33:51,760 --> 02:33:54,799
easy to I vaguely remember that. Yeah, they have Sid

2950
02:33:54,879 --> 02:33:56,639
versus Austin for I think the first time at least

2951
02:33:56,639 --> 02:34:00,000
on television a couple of weeks after the Survivor's series,

2952
02:34:00,280 --> 02:34:03,440
and Austin hits Sid with the belt and Davy boy

2953
02:34:03,479 --> 02:34:07,520
Smith actually runs out and starts fighting with Austin, and

2954
02:34:07,559 --> 02:34:09,680
Sid is dq'ed. He goes to power bomb Davy boy

2955
02:34:09,719 --> 02:34:12,040
Smith and Brett makes the save for Davy boy and

2956
02:34:12,159 --> 02:34:14,079
then Brett and Sid go face to face. This is

2957
02:34:14,079 --> 02:34:17,520
ahead of its time, of course, allowing Stone Cold to

2958
02:34:17,600 --> 02:34:20,719
knee Brett from behind and then Sid choke slams Brett down.

2959
02:34:21,079 --> 02:34:23,639
So it's all, you know, all the different cross currents here,

2960
02:34:23,680 --> 02:34:27,719
everybody's feuds are intertwining. And then there's another Shawn Michael

2961
02:34:27,760 --> 02:34:32,319
satellite interview that they it's almost like these damage control

2962
02:34:32,440 --> 02:34:35,799
satellite interviews they're doing with Sean after Survivor series where

2963
02:34:36,120 --> 02:34:39,559
they're just hammering that he did this for jose Lethario

2964
02:34:39,879 --> 02:34:42,200
and he doesn't care if you don't cheer for him,

2965
02:34:42,319 --> 02:34:45,399
and he's in for his supporters and all that. And

2966
02:34:45,559 --> 02:34:48,559
this is one that I think colors in a lot

2967
02:34:48,639 --> 02:34:50,879
of Sid's early presentation.

2968
02:34:50,959 --> 02:34:53,479
Speaker 5: Here is champion. Okay, I really don't know what the

2969
02:34:53,600 --> 02:34:54,760
controversy is about.

2970
02:34:55,000 --> 02:34:58,079
Speaker 30: Why everybody is where aroulse sticking their nose in my business.

2971
02:34:58,479 --> 02:35:01,159
Speaker 11: First of all, you Brett Hart, you come down, you

2972
02:35:01,399 --> 02:35:02,959
davy boy, you come down.

2973
02:35:03,120 --> 02:35:04,520
Speaker 3: There's no place for you there.

2974
02:35:05,440 --> 02:35:08,479
Speaker 7: So what happens when you stick your nose in my business?

2975
02:35:08,920 --> 02:35:09,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2976
02:35:09,399 --> 02:35:12,200
Speaker 7: The champ I am the champion of the world.

2977
02:35:12,639 --> 02:35:15,079
Speaker 27: That says at all that says that I am the

2978
02:35:15,200 --> 02:35:19,600
man that says that I am the master and the rule.

2979
02:35:25,840 --> 02:35:26,600
Speaker 28: The world.

2980
02:35:28,079 --> 02:35:30,719
Speaker 8: By New Era darding here in the world Roastic Federation

2981
02:35:30,840 --> 02:35:34,280
with the highly aggressive cycle to the rating world ROSTI

2982
02:35:34,399 --> 02:35:36,440
feration in Jamie'll just winning to end the title.

2983
02:35:36,840 --> 02:35:42,360
Speaker 4: I guess the hit man on the early Christmas President

2984
02:35:43,600 --> 02:35:45,760
in your house that fits.

2985
02:35:47,440 --> 02:35:47,959
Speaker 5: But there it is.

2986
02:35:48,040 --> 02:35:50,280
Speaker 14: That's that's all tasty and new era. Did he just

2987
02:35:50,319 --> 02:35:54,399
say yeah, yeah, it's fleeting, but they start talking about

2988
02:35:54,440 --> 02:35:56,680
it and Sid kicks off the December ninth, nineteen ninety

2989
02:35:56,719 --> 02:35:58,440
six braw as well in this vein.

2990
02:36:01,360 --> 02:36:05,319
Speaker 16: Welcome to be wanting a ww have Monday night Raw

2991
02:36:06,200 --> 02:36:08,360
begin you along with Terry the King Lawer.

2992
02:36:08,200 --> 02:36:09,200
Speaker 4: And ed On Jr.

2993
02:36:09,600 --> 02:36:12,479
Speaker 13: And look goostrolling from the squ circles.

2994
02:36:12,520 --> 02:36:16,079
Speaker 4: No last than the World Last Thing Federation champion.

2995
02:36:15,799 --> 02:36:20,079
Speaker 8: Himself a monster of three hundred Conder's in jar An individual.

2996
02:36:20,239 --> 02:36:24,600
Speaker 4: Perhaps it's indeed leading us into a new here here.

2997
02:36:24,479 --> 02:36:27,479
Speaker 21: In the World Last Thing Federation of Donald Willis Morris

2998
02:36:27,680 --> 02:36:30,399
Biscol Gifts are concerned, Sycho said, Maybe.

2999
02:36:30,280 --> 02:36:32,360
Speaker 2: The leader here in the w doesn't live for a

3000
02:36:32,440 --> 02:36:33,399
long time to come.

3001
02:36:33,920 --> 02:36:35,120
Speaker 3: But what a cross road.

3002
02:36:35,239 --> 02:36:39,159
Speaker 21: Psycho sit and finds himself backing this Sunday on pay

3003
02:36:39,280 --> 02:36:42,639
per view, because will it be time for Psycho said

3004
02:36:42,760 --> 02:36:46,000
to catch his name into immortality there you see it?

3005
02:36:46,319 --> 02:36:48,959
Or will it be Brett Hart's opportunity to regain the

3006
02:36:49,159 --> 02:36:51,360
WWF title for the fourth time.

3007
02:36:51,479 --> 02:36:52,520
Speaker 2: Give me a break, Jim Rush.

3008
02:36:52,559 --> 02:36:55,120
Speaker 32: I don't see anybody in the WWF they can beat

3009
02:36:55,280 --> 02:36:56,360
Psycho Sid right now.

3010
02:36:56,479 --> 02:36:58,559
Speaker 2: Look you beat Sewn Michaels, He'll beat.

3011
02:36:58,399 --> 02:37:00,600
Speaker 6: Bret to hit man heart looking woo him down.

3012
02:37:00,879 --> 02:37:03,840
Speaker 8: Look at that cych co Sid, But we're all ross

3013
02:37:03,879 --> 02:37:06,319
plays fighter action champion tonight.

3014
02:37:06,159 --> 02:37:08,600
Speaker 4: And going against another champion.

3015
02:37:08,680 --> 02:37:13,319
Speaker 8: Yes it's a champion pursus champion, sich Com said, perhaps

3016
02:37:13,479 --> 02:37:18,040
power bombing us off here raw as sids work up.

3017
02:37:17,959 --> 02:37:19,760
Speaker 13: Again come late.

3018
02:37:20,000 --> 02:37:20,159
Speaker 2: Hum.

3019
02:37:20,959 --> 02:37:24,719
Speaker 14: So there's the framing new era of stuff, talking about

3020
02:37:24,799 --> 02:37:28,559
his his physical gifts and all that. But it really

3021
02:37:28,600 --> 02:37:30,840
starts to sound to me like, you know, this is

3022
02:37:30,879 --> 02:37:32,559
going to be the only time Sid's going to headline

3023
02:37:32,559 --> 02:37:35,200
the pay per view as champion. We better we better

3024
02:37:35,280 --> 02:37:37,280
hurry up and accelerate the hype for this guy as

3025
02:37:37,360 --> 02:37:39,559
someone that uh is worth buying a pay per view

3026
02:37:39,559 --> 02:37:42,399
to see defend the championship and create the impression that

3027
02:37:42,520 --> 02:37:44,520
you know, you're watching history in the making with him

3028
02:37:44,559 --> 02:37:46,920
defending as opposed to it's kind of hard to get

3029
02:37:46,920 --> 02:37:48,840
people to buy a champ a championship match when you

3030
02:37:48,920 --> 02:37:51,559
think the champions lame duck. But it's just all of

3031
02:37:51,559 --> 02:37:55,079
a sudden, it switches from Sean got screwed, Shawn got screwed.

3032
02:37:55,200 --> 02:37:57,040
Sid won the belt, But that doesn't really that's not

3033
02:37:57,159 --> 02:38:01,040
the story here to Sid is launching a new era

3034
02:38:01,319 --> 02:38:02,680
of aggression here in the WWF.

3035
02:38:02,719 --> 02:38:05,840
Speaker 5: It's kind of weird now, it's so fucking convoluted and

3036
02:38:07,879 --> 02:38:08,680
it's so phony.

3037
02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:13,479
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, because they didn't really, they didn't react that

3038
02:38:13,520 --> 02:38:15,559
way when Sid first won the belt, and now that

3039
02:38:15,639 --> 02:38:17,840
there's a pay per view to sell without Sewn involved,

3040
02:38:17,840 --> 02:38:19,040
it's like, well, we got to really kind of make

3041
02:38:19,040 --> 02:38:21,360
it about Sid because we're not No one's going to

3042
02:38:21,399 --> 02:38:22,680
buy this pay per view for what Shawn does. He

3043
02:38:22,680 --> 02:38:24,440
doesn't have a match. He's going to be there, but

3044
02:38:25,159 --> 02:38:27,639
we can't spend much more time emphasizing Sean and the

3045
02:38:27,719 --> 02:38:29,559
damage control element of it, or it seemed to me

3046
02:38:29,559 --> 02:38:31,200
at least to be damage control. But I think also

3047
02:38:31,520 --> 02:38:33,120
we've got a lot for the possibility that week to

3048
02:38:33,159 --> 02:38:35,200
week they're changing course, you know, they're trying to decide

3049
02:38:35,239 --> 02:38:38,799
what's going to be most effective for that WrestleMania. The

3050
02:38:40,399 --> 02:38:43,719
loosely sketched out plan of the Shawn Brett rematches very

3051
02:38:43,760 --> 02:38:46,079
clearly becoming a fraught thing. It's not going to be

3052
02:38:46,159 --> 02:38:49,159
very easy to put that match together. Definitely not going

3053
02:38:49,200 --> 02:38:50,760
to be easy to get Brett the win back, which

3054
02:38:50,799 --> 02:38:52,280
is probably the only way they could get that match

3055
02:38:52,319 --> 02:38:54,159
in the ring. I'm not sure Brett would be a

3056
02:38:54,200 --> 02:38:56,879
huge fan of losing to Shawn again to Wrestlemani's.

3057
02:38:56,239 --> 02:38:58,239
Speaker 5: In row, No, not at all.

3058
02:38:58,440 --> 02:39:00,360
Speaker 14: I cannot say this. Shawn Michaels in the state of mine.

3059
02:39:00,399 --> 02:39:03,399
He's in agreeing to do the honors either. So that

3060
02:39:03,479 --> 02:39:05,879
whole U come to Jesus conversation about how I just

3061
02:39:05,959 --> 02:39:08,360
want you to know I wouldn't return the favor for you, Brett.

3062
02:39:08,520 --> 02:39:11,079
I think could have been pushed forward quite a few

3063
02:39:11,120 --> 02:39:14,799
months if if the issue was forced to WrestleMania thirteen,

3064
02:39:15,280 --> 02:39:17,559
But for now, its time is on the calendar. Sids

3065
02:39:17,600 --> 02:39:19,520
the champion, and we're going to frame him as a

3066
02:39:19,639 --> 02:39:25,079
revolutionary New Era flag bearer on that. On an episode

3067
02:39:25,079 --> 02:39:26,440
of Raw, as Vince was talking about he was to

3068
02:39:26,479 --> 02:39:28,879
face Triple H. You at the time was the continental champion,

3069
02:39:29,399 --> 02:39:31,239
and during the course of the match, Sid hits Triple

3070
02:39:31,319 --> 02:39:34,040
H with a huge guerrilla press slam. They start fighting

3071
02:39:34,079 --> 02:39:36,399
in the isle way. He power bombs him out there

3072
02:39:36,440 --> 02:39:38,559
on the floor, but actually they get back in the ring,

3073
02:39:38,719 --> 02:39:41,159
he power bombs him, Triple H rolls out, crawls up

3074
02:39:41,200 --> 02:39:42,840
the aisle, and is counted out of the ring. So

3075
02:39:43,079 --> 02:39:47,000
this WWF champion that's harbor the harboring der of a

3076
02:39:47,079 --> 02:39:50,840
new era of aggression and dominance in the Wwfah can't

3077
02:39:50,840 --> 02:39:57,040
even beat Triple H by pinfall. I mean, so I

3078
02:39:57,079 --> 02:39:59,200
would love to know the negotiation that went on there,

3079
02:39:59,680 --> 02:40:02,319
because this is, you know, this is Triple H starting

3080
02:40:02,399 --> 02:40:04,079
to come out of the penalty box from the whole

3081
02:40:04,079 --> 02:40:06,440
click incident as ninety six becomes ninety seven and now

3082
02:40:06,520 --> 02:40:09,280
he's got the championship belt and he's gonna win King

3083
02:40:09,319 --> 02:40:12,959
of the Ring again in ninety seven's it's just amazing

3084
02:40:13,000 --> 02:40:15,000
to me that you just can't have Sid just beat

3085
02:40:15,040 --> 02:40:17,399
the intercontinental champion to further cement him as your man.

3086
02:40:17,479 --> 02:40:19,399
But those are the kind of things like, okay, those

3087
02:40:19,479 --> 02:40:21,360
little signals I feel like that you give to the fans.

3088
02:40:21,360 --> 02:40:23,719
So this guy isn't actually a long champion because he's not.

3089
02:40:24,799 --> 02:40:28,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're like they're completely uh uh you know, they're

3090
02:40:29,159 --> 02:40:31,920
they're they're they're not making him feel important. They're not

3091
02:40:32,040 --> 02:40:35,879
making him feel like he's worth paying attention to me

3092
02:40:36,159 --> 02:40:37,360
or investing in. Right, he's not.

3093
02:40:37,719 --> 02:40:40,280
Speaker 14: He's not having the definitive outcomes that a champion of

3094
02:40:40,360 --> 02:40:42,440
tenure would. You know that they've trained the fans to

3095
02:40:42,559 --> 02:40:45,000
expect from a champion that's going to have a tenure

3096
02:40:45,040 --> 02:40:47,239
with the belt. And as this all happens, as Triple

3097
02:40:47,319 --> 02:40:49,280
H crawls up the aisle to avoid the pinfall, Sid's

3098
02:40:49,280 --> 02:40:51,000
got this flat look on his face like he's watching

3099
02:40:51,040 --> 02:40:55,920
the cashier ring him up or something, and it's like normal, look, yeah,

3100
02:40:56,399 --> 02:40:58,879
he looks like a guy competing at a protest. Really,

3101
02:41:00,159 --> 02:41:01,559
and they would get to the its time pay per view,

3102
02:41:01,559 --> 02:41:04,600
which is mentioned is in December, I think December fourteenth,

3103
02:41:04,680 --> 02:41:07,120
ninety sixth plus Palm Beach, Florida. And of course back

3104
02:41:07,159 --> 02:41:09,520
at the time, Superstars was still on syndicated television on

3105
02:41:09,559 --> 02:41:10,719
Saturday Sunday mornings of.

3106
02:41:10,760 --> 02:41:13,799
Speaker 5: Pay per views, and so you'd wrestled twice in the day.

3107
02:41:13,959 --> 02:41:15,239
Speaker 14: Well, if there was a match in the can that

3108
02:41:15,280 --> 02:41:18,239
had been taped weeks before, yeah, sometimes they'd play that

3109
02:41:18,319 --> 02:41:19,559
match in the morning of the pay per view and

3110
02:41:19,559 --> 02:41:21,639
then you'd wrestle that night. And just like you said,

3111
02:41:21,719 --> 02:41:23,079
on the pay per view, they talk as if you

3112
02:41:23,079 --> 02:41:25,879
wrestled earlier that same very day, which is just hilarious.

3113
02:41:27,079 --> 02:41:29,319
But in this case, they would set up a live remotes.

3114
02:41:29,559 --> 02:41:32,079
So if you watch Superstars that Sunday morning and this

3115
02:41:32,200 --> 02:41:35,680
gets me really cozy, this thought of like, you know,

3116
02:41:35,719 --> 02:41:39,000
Bowl of Cereal pay per view and you watch Superstars

3117
02:41:39,000 --> 02:41:40,959
at eleven in the morning and they're there in the arena.

3118
02:41:41,040 --> 02:41:42,639
The arena is empty, you can see all the empare

3119
02:41:42,680 --> 02:41:44,799
Oh I love that. Yep, so good, such a good

3120
02:41:44,879 --> 02:41:47,319
use of that time. And they're telling you tonight's the

3121
02:41:47,399 --> 02:41:49,399
night and they'll have interviews with the principles, and you

3122
02:41:49,520 --> 02:41:51,520
just get this sense, you know, kind of like how

3123
02:41:51,559 --> 02:41:53,879
the you know, the super Bowl pre show, even though

3124
02:41:53,879 --> 02:41:55,600
the super Bowl doesn't kick off till whatever it is,

3125
02:41:55,799 --> 02:41:57,920
eight thirty starting at noon.

3126
02:41:58,280 --> 02:42:00,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you watched, yeah exactly, you watch all the

3127
02:42:00,559 --> 02:42:01,520
shit leading up to it.

3128
02:42:02,000 --> 02:42:03,840
Speaker 14: You at least get a glimpse of the terrain and

3129
02:42:03,879 --> 02:42:05,799
the and the atmosphere and the energy, and you get it.

3130
02:42:06,440 --> 02:42:08,639
You hear from from from the players, and you get

3131
02:42:08,680 --> 02:42:10,159
a sense of what's going to mean to them when

3132
02:42:10,159 --> 02:42:12,719
they finally hit that field. And that's what these little

3133
02:42:12,920 --> 02:42:15,559
Superstars occasions would mean. And and Sid actually had some

3134
02:42:15,719 --> 02:42:17,920
some some bright shining moments during some of these, uh,

3135
02:42:18,360 --> 02:42:21,959
these Superstars previews, if you can call them that, that

3136
02:42:22,120 --> 02:42:25,559
morning of its time. Sid is outside in westbaum Commentation,

3137
02:42:25,760 --> 02:42:28,639
commenting on the match after Shawn Michaels had done an

3138
02:42:28,639 --> 02:42:30,920
interview going off pretty much just on Brett Hart exclusively,

3139
02:42:31,559 --> 02:42:33,879
and then they did an actual face off between Brett

3140
02:42:33,879 --> 02:42:36,079
and Sean outside the venue in the daylight near some

3141
02:42:36,159 --> 02:42:38,719
palm trees and they're jaw jacking and talking trash. So

3142
02:42:38,719 --> 02:42:41,639
they basically shot angles for Superstars that morning, and it

3143
02:42:41,719 --> 02:42:44,200
definitely seems like they had even up to its time

3144
02:42:44,719 --> 02:42:46,840
a Sean Brett match in mind, it still seemed like

3145
02:42:47,319 --> 02:42:49,680
loosely penciled in as we're building to Brett Seawan again,

3146
02:42:49,799 --> 02:42:52,719
because they are not leading people to want to see

3147
02:42:54,559 --> 02:42:57,280
something different than that after Sean gets the belt back.

3148
02:42:57,520 --> 02:43:00,799
They are really getting you to want to see Brett

3149
02:43:00,840 --> 02:43:03,600
and Sean again. There's no other way to watch this.

3150
02:43:03,959 --> 02:43:07,280
This television show. It's interesting, yeah, and it's lost, and

3151
02:43:07,440 --> 02:43:11,000
it's lost to history because people just accelerate right from

3152
02:43:11,079 --> 02:43:15,200
Survivors series to Royal Rumble, and by Rumble, I feel like,

3153
02:43:15,239 --> 02:43:16,799
you know, lost in winning and stuff. It's a little

3154
02:43:16,799 --> 02:43:18,840
more up for grabs. And then of course the knee

3155
02:43:18,840 --> 02:43:21,559
injury happens and Sean relinquishes the championship, and then whatever

3156
02:43:22,159 --> 02:43:24,399
vestiges there may have been off Brett sewn in a rematch,

3157
02:43:24,479 --> 02:43:27,879
go down the toilet, but they're definitely still comfortable as

3158
02:43:27,920 --> 02:43:31,040
of the superstars. The morning of it's time pointing fans

3159
02:43:31,120 --> 02:43:33,360
toward a Shan Brett rematch and trying to get them

3160
02:43:33,399 --> 02:43:37,520
hyped for it. And here on that broadcast is Sid

3161
02:43:37,600 --> 02:43:40,559
weighing in and all that's happening around him as WWF Champion.

3162
02:43:40,760 --> 02:43:43,200
Speaker 10: The WWF Champion, Psycho Sid.

3163
02:43:43,399 --> 02:43:45,639
Speaker 33: It is sold out here tonight and millions of people

3164
02:43:45,719 --> 02:43:48,280
will be watching on pay per view in your house.

3165
02:43:48,440 --> 02:43:51,040
Speaker 10: It's time your challenger, Brett Hart.

3166
02:43:51,000 --> 02:43:53,920
Speaker 33: Feels it's time for him to regain the WWF title

3167
02:43:54,000 --> 02:43:54,760
for a fourth time.

3168
02:43:55,000 --> 02:43:57,159
Speaker 10: A lot of other people feel it is a new

3169
02:43:57,280 --> 02:43:58,440
error here in the WWF.

3170
02:43:58,520 --> 02:43:59,600
Speaker 4: It's Psycho Sid.

3171
02:43:59,600 --> 02:44:00,280
Speaker 5: Time see it.

3172
02:44:00,360 --> 02:44:02,239
Speaker 11: You're exactly right, And what I feel, I feel a

3173
02:44:02,239 --> 02:44:04,920
little parannoy you coming from you here, man, and no

3174
02:44:05,040 --> 02:44:08,079
reason why, because you consider yourself the best there is,

3175
02:44:08,559 --> 02:44:11,440
the bester was and the best ever be. So you

3176
02:44:11,520 --> 02:44:14,200
gotta understand something, my friend, you're.

3177
02:44:14,079 --> 02:44:16,079
Speaker 10: A great technical wrestler, but.

3178
02:44:16,239 --> 02:44:19,920
Speaker 11: I beat the greatest technical wrestler of all time, and

3179
02:44:20,120 --> 02:44:23,040
that's Sean Michaels, And so wow, he is planning in

3180
02:44:23,120 --> 02:44:25,639
the back of your head, and you know that you've

3181
02:44:25,639 --> 02:44:27,079
got to come to my game plan.

3182
02:44:27,399 --> 02:44:29,559
Speaker 10: Hey, that is power, power.

3183
02:44:29,360 --> 02:44:30,239
Speaker 3: That you don't have.

3184
02:44:30,639 --> 02:44:32,920
Speaker 33: All right, Well, speaking of Sean Michaels, he'll be at

3185
02:44:33,000 --> 02:44:35,000
ringside doing color commentary tonight.

3186
02:44:35,360 --> 02:44:36,920
Speaker 10: Is that going to be a major distraction?

3187
02:44:37,440 --> 02:44:38,319
Speaker 2: No, it won't be good.

3188
02:44:38,360 --> 02:44:40,559
Speaker 11: I'll tell you something, Sean, if you stick to your

3189
02:44:40,639 --> 02:44:43,559
nose in my business, you'll get the exact same thing.

3190
02:44:43,840 --> 02:44:44,719
Speaker 3: Oh, thank god.

3191
02:44:46,120 --> 02:44:49,559
Speaker 10: But so it won't bother you none whatsoever. There's Seawn Michaels.

3192
02:44:49,239 --> 02:44:50,319
Speaker 4: Who sit.

3193
02:44:53,719 --> 02:44:56,840
Speaker 14: Sewn, just flies into frame and jumps on said, wow,

3194
02:44:57,040 --> 02:45:18,200
street clothes like black shirt, black jeans. Way, I'm pretty

3195
02:45:18,200 --> 02:45:19,639
sure you can hear Vincent there. Hey, knock it off.

3196
02:45:19,680 --> 02:45:22,319
Knock it off, ye, knock it off. Goddamn you remember

3197
02:45:22,360 --> 02:45:24,280
that Sid doing an interview outdoors and like the sunny

3198
02:45:24,479 --> 02:45:26,280
Florida and then Sean flies into the frame with like

3199
02:45:26,280 --> 02:45:26,799
a planchet.

3200
02:45:27,559 --> 02:45:28,799
Speaker 5: I don't remember at all.

3201
02:45:28,799 --> 02:45:30,799
Speaker 14: I think they replay it during the body of the

3202
02:45:30,879 --> 02:45:34,000
Royal Rumble nineteen ninety seven. Pardon me, it's time ninety

3203
02:45:34,000 --> 02:45:37,639
six broadcast. So yeah, Sean's showing up and he's fighting

3204
02:45:37,680 --> 02:45:41,200
anybody at noon. It's pretty it's pretty wild.

3205
02:45:41,360 --> 02:45:45,680
Speaker 5: Then that sounds like Sean during during ninety the nineties.

3206
02:45:46,120 --> 02:45:49,760
Speaker 14: It's Sean looking for anybody to fuck with. And then

3207
02:45:49,840 --> 02:45:52,920
later on during the pay per view itself, with the

3208
02:45:53,120 --> 02:45:57,440
white painter's cap on backwards, Sid has this to say.

3209
02:45:58,040 --> 02:46:00,200
Speaker 33: Oh God, you have found out in a short you've

3210
02:46:00,239 --> 02:46:01,879
been World Wrestling Federation champion.

3211
02:46:02,000 --> 02:46:04,840
Speaker 30: You are no longer the hunter. You are the hunted.

3212
02:46:05,319 --> 02:46:07,520
Speaker 33: I'd like to take you back to earlier this morning

3213
02:46:07,920 --> 02:46:12,239
on Sunday Morning Superstars, when that has never been more evident.

3214
02:46:12,559 --> 02:46:15,280
Speaker 10: Now there it was Shawn Michaels diving on you.

3215
02:46:15,479 --> 02:46:18,239
Speaker 33: As I was conducting an interview with you, out comes

3216
02:46:18,280 --> 02:46:20,959
Brett harton At one time you and Brett Hart are.

3217
02:46:20,959 --> 02:46:22,879
Speaker 4: Both beating on Shawn Michaels.

3218
02:46:23,200 --> 02:46:27,959
Speaker 33: And then Brett Hart really made the big bad mistake

3219
02:46:28,120 --> 02:46:32,040
of turning his back on Psycho Sid. And boy, you

3220
02:46:32,319 --> 02:46:35,079
sure took advantage of that opportunity. As we can see

3221
02:46:35,200 --> 02:46:37,239
right here here it comes wow.

3222
02:46:37,520 --> 02:46:38,559
Speaker 6: Thiss like that. Dot.

3223
02:46:38,639 --> 02:46:47,760
Speaker 11: See if you head the loan by now see, don't

3224
02:46:47,959 --> 02:46:51,520
put your nose in my business. And if you can't

3225
02:46:51,559 --> 02:46:53,680
believe that as today.

3226
02:46:54,239 --> 02:46:58,399
Speaker 33: All right, Sid, but Jose aside tonight you can squelch

3227
02:46:58,520 --> 02:47:02,120
the critics. You can silence everybody by defeating the legend

3228
02:47:02,239 --> 02:47:08,959
Breda hit Man, Heart, bad Hair and the future.

3229
02:47:10,040 --> 02:47:14,040
Speaker 3: We make take it that top Brett, Shine, be.

3230
02:47:14,360 --> 02:47:23,559
Speaker 7: Je Shine and Shine fall. It's easy.

3231
02:47:29,159 --> 02:47:29,440
Speaker 28: Last.

3232
02:47:34,319 --> 02:47:37,959
Speaker 10: Thanks, all right, all right, Vince back to you at rings.

3233
02:47:39,280 --> 02:47:55,159
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3234
02:47:55,319 --> 02:48:13,360
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3236
02:48:17,600 --> 02:48:21,680
Speaker 5: Sorrow barely understand Dan thing. You know, so you get

3237
02:48:21,719 --> 02:48:23,520
to kind of change it up a little bit. You know,

3238
02:48:23,559 --> 02:48:26,040
I might might get it. You're a master of the

3239
02:48:26,120 --> 02:48:28,840
ruler blah blah blah bah blah. But you know, maybe

3240
02:48:28,959 --> 02:48:33,239
say something new, something fresh, something that maybe isn't that.

3241
02:48:34,680 --> 02:48:41,600
Please maybe say you're you're a goldfish, You're a monkey.

3242
02:48:42,799 --> 02:48:44,639
I'm the monkey and the ruler of the world fans,

3243
02:48:46,079 --> 02:48:48,239
if if that's what it takes, Yes, maybe say you're

3244
02:48:48,239 --> 02:48:52,079
a goldfish or a monkey. Yeah it's a little a

3245
02:48:52,159 --> 02:48:54,840
little monkey's uncle maybe.

3246
02:48:55,079 --> 02:48:58,920
Speaker 14: And uh something from that major And on his entrance

3247
02:48:58,959 --> 02:49:00,360
to face bretton the main event of this In Your

3248
02:49:00,399 --> 02:49:02,680
House show, Vince is talking like Sid's going to be

3249
02:49:02,680 --> 02:49:05,479
the dominant champion, for years to come. And then Shawn,

3250
02:49:05,520 --> 02:49:09,719
who gets on color commentary, call Sid the WWF's most

3251
02:49:09,719 --> 02:49:12,200
expensive piece of luggage. He says, me and others carry

3252
02:49:12,280 --> 02:49:16,079
him here and carry him there. Oh my god, Shawn says.

3253
02:49:16,360 --> 02:49:19,479
Shawn is now totally id. It's just shouting everything. He says,

3254
02:49:20,079 --> 02:49:22,440
gave him a live mic and he just like lets

3255
02:49:22,479 --> 02:49:25,239
all of his insecurities pour out onto the television screen

3256
02:49:26,120 --> 02:49:26,920
during the course of the match.

3257
02:49:26,959 --> 02:49:27,399
Speaker 5: It's a good one.

3258
02:49:27,600 --> 02:49:30,600
Speaker 14: Sid always worked well with Brett, Suplex's and mayors and

3259
02:49:30,639 --> 02:49:32,719
Sid's taking bumps. And then suddenly Austin comes out and

3260
02:49:32,760 --> 02:49:35,559
chop blocks Bred on the floor. This leads to Bulldog

3261
02:49:35,600 --> 02:49:38,239
and Owen coming out to stop them, which again leads

3262
02:49:38,280 --> 02:49:41,680
further credence to the idea that before Austin was to

3263
02:49:41,719 --> 02:49:44,840
face Brett at WrestleMania thirteen and the Infamous, not the Infamous,

3264
02:49:44,879 --> 02:49:47,479
the famous submission match, it was to be Steve Austin

3265
02:49:47,559 --> 02:49:48,920
versus Davy boys.

3266
02:49:48,760 --> 02:49:52,559
Speaker 5: Smith, which just hurts. It hurts. It's hurts so bad.

3267
02:49:53,159 --> 02:49:54,840
Speaker 14: When they still thought that there was a chance Brett

3268
02:49:54,840 --> 02:49:57,319
and Seawan were going to tangle in Chicago. So Brett

3269
02:49:57,360 --> 02:49:59,760
now has a bad wheel thank to Steve Austin's blindsided

3270
02:49:59,760 --> 02:50:02,319
at t the action hits the floor, Sid goes over

3271
02:50:02,360 --> 02:50:04,479
to the announced table and pie face as Shawn Michaels

3272
02:50:04,680 --> 02:50:06,879
sewn gets up on the apron and Sid tosses Brett

3273
02:50:07,000 --> 02:50:09,559
into Shawn Michaels, leading to a collision and that allows

3274
02:50:09,559 --> 02:50:11,360
Sid to hook Bread up for the power bomb and

3275
02:50:11,440 --> 02:50:13,719
the one two three. SID defeats Brett Hart to retain

3276
02:50:13,760 --> 02:50:15,760
the title and the only pay per view he ever

3277
02:50:15,959 --> 02:50:20,159
went into and successfully defended the title against an opponent.

3278
02:50:21,120 --> 02:50:23,000
Speaker 5: That is true, that's a very good point of time.

3279
02:50:24,040 --> 02:50:26,879
Speaker 14: The next night, the December sixteenth, nineteen ninety six, Raw, Brett,

3280
02:50:27,000 --> 02:50:29,399
of course has many grievances because of Sewan and Steve

3281
02:50:29,440 --> 02:50:31,799
Austin's interference. Says, there's no good reason I'm not the

3282
02:50:31,840 --> 02:50:34,239
World Wrestling Federation Champion, and I feel like here the

3283
02:50:34,360 --> 02:50:36,280
Raw after its time is where they really turn up

3284
02:50:36,280 --> 02:50:39,639
the dial on Brett as the whiny complainer because he's

3285
02:50:39,680 --> 02:50:41,920
not just making points that are valid, but you can

3286
02:50:42,040 --> 02:50:43,959
kind of hear the announcers kind of like try to

3287
02:50:45,600 --> 02:50:47,440
kind of coach you to start to have a bad

3288
02:50:47,479 --> 02:50:49,479
taste in your mouth about this guy, Like we've heard

3289
02:50:49,600 --> 02:50:52,440
enough of this, Like win the championship man or shut

3290
02:50:52,479 --> 02:50:55,200
the fuck up. And then that's when Brett starts talking

3291
02:50:55,200 --> 02:50:57,280
about how you know things have changed, I don't know

3292
02:50:57,360 --> 02:51:00,799
who my friends are anymore in the WWF, you don't

3293
02:51:00,799 --> 02:51:03,399
know what the rules are. Remember that that's because there

3294
02:51:03,479 --> 02:51:06,760
is no rules. And then they call Sean prissy. He says,

3295
02:51:06,799 --> 02:51:08,680
you said you wouldn't interfere in the match, and you did,

3296
02:51:08,799 --> 02:51:13,159
and Sean can't handle that. He's not as boy toy. Yeah,

3297
02:51:13,200 --> 02:51:16,520
that's that's coming. And you can hear the words if

3298
02:51:16,559 --> 02:51:19,120
coming out of Brett's mouth. Sean just can't handle that.

3299
02:51:19,239 --> 02:51:20,360
He's not as good as I am.

3300
02:51:20,959 --> 02:51:22,879
Speaker 5: You can just hear it. You can hear it. And

3301
02:51:23,000 --> 02:51:26,040
on that show, it's a Austin versus Vader, like holy shit,

3302
02:51:26,280 --> 02:51:32,680
you know they they weren't shying away from Steve Austin

3303
02:51:32,719 --> 02:51:35,319
building up his tough guy bona fides, despite doing sneak

3304
02:51:35,319 --> 02:51:37,319
attacks on Brett to put him in there with Vader

3305
02:51:37,360 --> 02:51:39,239
and have him go toe to toe and fucking slug

3306
02:51:39,319 --> 02:51:42,040
it out with him. Oh yeah, I mean that's I mean,

3307
02:51:42,200 --> 02:51:46,840
they're really doing such an amazing it's really amazing work

3308
02:51:46,920 --> 02:51:50,879
they do with Austin. Yeah, especially it's really remarkable for it.

3309
02:51:51,120 --> 02:51:54,040
Speaker 14: Like really crystallizes. You're like, wow, yep, they actually were

3310
02:51:54,239 --> 02:51:57,479
really smart every step of the way, and like doing

3311
02:51:57,559 --> 02:52:00,559
little things to make you still realize that as sneaky

3312
02:52:00,559 --> 02:52:03,040
of a motherfucker, Steve as he's not running away from anything.

3313
02:52:03,239 --> 02:52:06,600
He just rabbid and that will actually come to love

3314
02:52:06,680 --> 02:52:09,520
him for that. And during the course of this match

3315
02:52:09,559 --> 02:52:11,159
with Vader in the main event of the Raw, after

3316
02:52:11,239 --> 02:52:13,319
its time, Brett hard actually shows back up and attacks

3317
02:52:13,319 --> 02:52:15,440
Steve Austin on the floor and chop blocks him and

3318
02:52:15,479 --> 02:52:17,719
puts him in the sharpshooter, And that's a big uh.

3319
02:52:18,040 --> 02:52:19,879
That's a big moment too where Brett is kind of

3320
02:52:20,360 --> 02:52:23,319
being aggressive in a way that we should boo him

3321
02:52:24,319 --> 02:52:26,239
as justified as he may be in his frustrations with

3322
02:52:26,280 --> 02:52:28,639
Steve Austin and costing him the championship the night before.

3323
02:52:28,719 --> 02:52:31,559
He's carrying himself in a way that we haven't really

3324
02:52:31,600 --> 02:52:34,319
been programmed to cheer, and of course Sid has something

3325
02:52:34,360 --> 02:52:36,200
to say about it all because he's still remember me,

3326
02:52:36,639 --> 02:52:38,120
you're WWF champion.

3327
02:52:38,600 --> 02:52:41,520
Speaker 8: Gentlemen, we have pretty much core get to you the

3328
02:52:41,639 --> 02:52:46,000
one and only what like butter Rectionia champion, showing us now.

3329
02:52:47,680 --> 02:52:52,280
Speaker 5: Goodhead, but the moment the fake razor music, of course annoying.

3330
02:52:52,399 --> 02:52:56,440
Speaker 16: Thank you very much, mister fitz McMahon said, you haven't

3331
02:52:56,520 --> 02:52:58,520
crossed the entire world westing direction.

3332
02:52:58,879 --> 02:52:59,920
Speaker 4: J I just paide a point.

3333
02:53:00,239 --> 02:53:02,920
Speaker 8: In less than thirty days, while you have dominated to

3334
02:53:03,040 --> 02:53:06,040
the extent, you have defeated Sean Michaels with a power bomb.

3335
02:53:06,280 --> 02:53:08,600
You have defeated Prett Hart with a power bomb in

3336
02:53:08,799 --> 02:53:09,840
less than thirty days.

3337
02:53:10,000 --> 02:53:12,840
Speaker 4: Can anyone stop you? Can anyone take.

3338
02:53:12,760 --> 02:53:13,639
Speaker 2: That title from you?

3339
02:53:14,159 --> 02:53:16,440
Speaker 4: Dis No, It's simple.

3340
02:53:16,760 --> 02:53:20,040
Speaker 11: See the game might play. I am the master, and

3341
02:53:20,200 --> 02:53:23,520
if you step back to the ring, you will go down.

3342
02:53:23,959 --> 02:53:25,920
Speaker 4: All right, Then let's take you to the Alamo dum.

3343
02:53:26,280 --> 02:53:29,600
Speaker 34: The day will be January nineteenth, Seventy thousand fans will

3344
02:53:29,680 --> 02:53:33,280
jam packed the arena said, and when you face Sean Michaels,

3345
02:53:33,879 --> 02:53:36,479
the outcome of that is didn't question at all as

3346
02:53:36,520 --> 02:53:37,760
far as you're concerning.

3347
02:53:37,639 --> 02:53:38,680
Speaker 30: I'm gonna tell you something.

3348
02:53:38,959 --> 02:53:41,879
Speaker 3: I know I'm going to shine Michael's backyard.

3349
02:53:42,200 --> 02:53:44,360
Speaker 30: But you gotta understand something, mister McMahon.

3350
02:53:44,799 --> 02:53:51,360
Speaker 11: I thrive, I thrive unversity. So it will be my victory,

3351
02:53:51,680 --> 02:53:56,079
a sweet victory to walk into San Antonio and take

3352
02:53:56,200 --> 02:53:58,120
Sean Michaels way more.

3353
02:53:58,079 --> 02:54:01,920
Speaker 3: Don way more don to the top, two feet up

3354
02:54:02,440 --> 02:54:03,559
and two down.

3355
02:54:05,280 --> 02:54:05,920
Speaker 7: It works.

3356
02:54:06,280 --> 02:54:09,079
Speaker 4: And as far as don't get it, I think your

3357
02:54:09,120 --> 02:54:11,159
part be interrupting it. As far as Jose la.

3358
02:54:11,159 --> 02:54:14,000
Speaker 8: Fario is concerned, he's Valcavie in the corner of Shawn

3359
02:54:14,079 --> 02:54:15,000
Michael's once again.

3360
02:54:16,040 --> 02:54:18,879
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't think that would necessarily concern you though, will.

3361
02:54:19,319 --> 02:54:22,479
Speaker 11: No, I'm gonna tell you some pose. Remember what happened

3362
02:54:22,520 --> 02:54:27,000
to Survivor series. Do yourself favor and stay at home

3363
02:54:27,319 --> 02:54:28,399
where you belong.

3364
02:54:28,799 --> 02:54:31,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, thank you

3365
02:54:31,559 --> 02:54:34,680
for joining us, Psycho said World of Rustling Counteraction.

3366
02:54:34,479 --> 02:54:37,840
Speaker 14: Champions, and had taken a step further. The next week,

3367
02:54:37,879 --> 02:54:40,559
December twenty third, nineteen ninety six edition of Monday Night Raw,

3368
02:54:40,879 --> 02:54:42,120
Sid visits with Vince.

3369
02:54:44,239 --> 02:54:45,680
Speaker 4: There's a little food for thought there.

3370
02:54:46,079 --> 02:54:48,520
Speaker 21: You can't talk to this man, and he is the

3371
02:54:48,600 --> 02:54:53,399
man sixty nine, three hundred and thirteen pounds, but he got.

3372
02:54:53,360 --> 02:54:54,319
Speaker 3: A wonder one of the folks in.

3373
02:54:54,399 --> 02:54:57,639
Speaker 21: San Antonio think of Psycho, said, the folks in New

3374
02:54:57,719 --> 02:54:58,399
York City.

3375
02:54:58,319 --> 02:54:59,920
Speaker 2: Loved him at the Survivor's here.

3376
02:55:00,520 --> 02:55:02,440
Speaker 13: I don't think sim will get that kind of reception.

3377
02:55:03,159 --> 02:55:07,120
Speaker 21: It's San Antonio at the Altamodome on January nineteen.

3378
02:55:12,479 --> 02:55:15,440
Speaker 13: What a magnificent physical specimen.

3379
02:55:16,040 --> 02:55:17,840
Speaker 4: He is not tendingly cure.

3380
02:55:18,319 --> 02:55:21,799
Speaker 21: He beats people in a pad with a string and

3381
02:55:21,920 --> 02:55:23,159
what's been timid.

3382
02:55:23,000 --> 02:55:27,680
Speaker 14: Edison always apologizing for his lack of technical skills.

3383
02:55:28,280 --> 02:55:30,399
Speaker 5: I know, well that's that's the j R. Way Federation.

3384
02:55:30,559 --> 02:55:32,479
City is young. This that is true.

3385
02:55:32,639 --> 02:55:35,440
Speaker 13: Man Sean Michael is looking on as we speak back

3386
02:55:35,479 --> 02:55:35,879
in the locker.

3387
02:55:36,000 --> 02:55:45,639
Speaker 4: Amarion here he is psychos in less than thirty days.

3388
02:55:45,959 --> 02:55:49,200
Speaker 5: Keep the music going. Hear that power bombs go yeah.

3389
02:55:50,280 --> 02:55:54,120
Speaker 8: As power bomb roughly hitting man hard defeated both individual

3390
02:55:55,200 --> 02:55:59,440
and indeed establish your dominant. It seems to me, however,

3391
02:55:59,639 --> 02:56:03,440
that John Michaels has an attitude rent the hitting man

3392
02:56:03,600 --> 02:56:05,440
heart as an attitude.

3393
02:56:07,360 --> 02:56:10,479
Speaker 5: Attitude is that word? Very interesting, Undertaker.

3394
02:56:10,719 --> 02:56:13,920
Speaker 4: Everybody has an attitude. When it comes.

3395
02:56:13,760 --> 02:56:17,600
Speaker 8: Attitude, Oliver, I would suggest that they all are going

3396
02:56:17,639 --> 02:56:21,079
to be playing right into your hands.

3397
02:56:23,360 --> 02:56:26,799
Speaker 11: I do you think about second for a second. With

3398
02:56:27,000 --> 02:56:31,479
the thirty days, I had to feed it the two

3399
02:56:31,719 --> 02:56:39,239
waited technical wrestlers thround the world, but the game they

3400
02:56:39,360 --> 02:56:41,399
played was technicality.

3401
02:56:42,399 --> 02:56:45,879
Speaker 3: And then at the end there was only power.

3402
02:56:47,879 --> 02:56:59,879
Speaker 19: For well, walk the ground guy, listen.

3403
02:57:02,920 --> 02:57:13,479
Speaker 11: Right, because I understood repredator, But the World.

3404
02:57:13,280 --> 02:57:14,959
Speaker 3: Wrestling Federation.

3405
02:57:15,959 --> 02:57:19,319
Speaker 5: Should say that after that there is.

3406
02:57:21,159 --> 02:57:21,959
Speaker 30: About the world.

3407
02:57:23,719 --> 02:57:25,239
Speaker 4: What was was Shan microsby thinking.

3408
02:57:27,479 --> 02:57:29,719
Speaker 30: But I will everyone to realize one thing.

3409
02:57:30,879 --> 02:57:35,680
Speaker 11: As I stand here right now, I am six foot

3410
02:57:35,840 --> 02:57:38,719
nine and over three hundred.

3411
02:57:38,520 --> 02:57:44,920
Speaker 4: Pounds, and tomorrow I was a sixty.

3412
02:57:44,719 --> 02:57:47,879
Speaker 25: Times three hundred pounds.

3413
02:57:48,440 --> 02:57:51,200
Speaker 10: No doubt, I'm a going to day after and the

3414
02:57:51,399 --> 02:57:52,360
day after.

3415
02:57:56,319 --> 02:57:58,719
Speaker 19: Earthy day after.

3416
02:58:02,600 --> 02:58:05,079
Speaker 5: This man is he's little nets but stuff. To be

3417
02:58:05,159 --> 02:58:10,799
honest about it, I don't know, not working for me. No,

3418
02:58:11,280 --> 02:58:13,399
I mean, listen, he says the same thing over and

3419
02:58:13,479 --> 02:58:16,959
over again. It's not you know he it's kind of

3420
02:58:17,000 --> 02:58:18,840
funny because he I feel like he had more to

3421
02:58:18,920 --> 02:58:20,479
say in ninety two.

3422
02:58:22,559 --> 02:58:22,719
Speaker 6: You know.

3423
02:58:23,040 --> 02:58:25,239
Speaker 5: Now it's just the same shit over and over again. Yeah,

3424
02:58:25,239 --> 02:58:25,840
you're probably right.

3425
02:58:26,799 --> 02:58:29,479
Speaker 14: It got the psycho character, so it's like it's all

3426
02:58:29,520 --> 02:58:32,000
affect and like there doesn't seem to be a great

3427
02:58:32,479 --> 02:58:34,399
depth of things that he's able to pull out and say.

3428
02:58:34,559 --> 02:58:38,319
It's just like as long as I scream and laugh

3429
02:58:38,639 --> 02:58:41,399
maniacally at certain beats. They clearly fed him the super

3430
02:58:41,440 --> 02:58:44,120
Predator line that was a new one. Yeah, that was

3431
02:58:44,120 --> 02:58:47,159
a big one in the news, like a characterizing like

3432
02:58:47,239 --> 02:58:50,719
inner city youth that were killing and murders like super predators.

3433
02:58:50,760 --> 02:58:53,360
That's very ninety six of them to try to adopt

3434
02:58:53,440 --> 02:58:57,360
that phrase and their Sid just try and trying to

3435
02:58:58,600 --> 02:59:00,520
to sound like somebody that we should receive as our

3436
02:59:00,639 --> 02:59:02,680
WWF champion, And I'm not sure it's working.

3437
02:59:04,040 --> 02:59:05,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I don't think it is.

3438
02:59:05,239 --> 02:59:08,680
Speaker 14: Well, we do have the great luxury of Sid having

3439
02:59:08,760 --> 02:59:12,079
taken the strap right around Christmas time as we head

3440
02:59:12,079 --> 02:59:15,239
into the holiday season here as well. We were the

3441
02:59:15,319 --> 02:59:19,639
beneficiaries because when the crack WWF production staff got together

3442
02:59:19,760 --> 02:59:21,639
to try to come up with some holiday themed content

3443
02:59:21,760 --> 02:59:24,680
for the syndicated weekend shows and such, the fact that

3444
02:59:25,000 --> 02:59:27,319
Sid was champion allowed them to create a little jingle.

3445
02:59:27,399 --> 03:00:01,559
Do you remember this, No happy Holidays from the World

3446
03:00:01,600 --> 03:00:02,360
Wrestling Families.

3447
03:00:02,719 --> 03:00:06,959
Speaker 5: You're a damn right, So yeah you better? Uh what

3448
03:00:07,120 --> 03:00:07,239
was it?

3449
03:00:07,319 --> 03:00:10,719
Speaker 14: A choke slam and a power bomb and uh, they

3450
03:00:10,760 --> 03:00:14,680
were just they were just trying to make holiday content

3451
03:00:14,799 --> 03:00:16,360
around Sid. It was so bizarre.

3452
03:00:16,879 --> 03:00:19,959
Speaker 5: And you know when they would do that around certain guys,

3453
03:00:20,079 --> 03:00:24,159
it was always so fucking weird. You know, it's a guy.

3454
03:00:24,280 --> 03:00:26,719
You know, there's one. There are a few people, and

3455
03:00:26,799 --> 03:00:29,680
Sid's one of them. You don't need to make him Christmas,

3456
03:00:30,639 --> 03:00:33,000
all right, he's like the he's like the opposite of Christmas.

3457
03:00:33,040 --> 03:00:35,040
Speaker 14: It doesn't occur to them like whether it fits. It's

3458
03:00:35,120 --> 03:00:37,280
just like, well, all these guys are fair game for

3459
03:00:37,360 --> 03:00:42,319
a little well we do can't well we could be lighthearted,

3460
03:00:42,360 --> 03:00:44,559
we can have some fun. These guys are entertainers.

3461
03:00:45,040 --> 03:00:47,040
Speaker 5: It's like like like like the entertained.

3462
03:00:47,079 --> 03:00:49,559
Speaker 14: Actually Sid isn't an entertainer, Vince, He's if you make

3463
03:00:49,639 --> 03:00:52,399
him a parade float, suddenly he's he's not as interesting

3464
03:00:52,479 --> 03:00:54,719
to watch as a wrestler now as yeah uh. And

3465
03:00:54,879 --> 03:00:57,680
to further humanize the man, probably to his detriment, Let's

3466
03:00:57,719 --> 03:00:59,920
not forget. This is also the winter of Live Why

3467
03:01:00,280 --> 03:01:04,159
the Live Wire experiment October I believe it was they

3468
03:01:04,280 --> 03:01:07,159
or September, they just started doing this Saturday morning call

3469
03:01:07,239 --> 03:01:10,360
in show concept from the television facilities in Stanford, where

3470
03:01:10,559 --> 03:01:12,879
you know it would just be Vince and Sonny or

3471
03:01:13,000 --> 03:01:15,959
Jim Ross or whoever it was. Vince Russo be involved

3472
03:01:16,000 --> 03:01:18,719
taking phone calls from ww fans and emails and stuff,

3473
03:01:18,760 --> 03:01:22,559
and they'd have special in guests in studio, guests that

3474
03:01:22,639 --> 03:01:25,840
would you know, ninety percent k fabe in the interviews.

3475
03:01:25,920 --> 03:01:27,680
But you know, it was interesting because they take calls

3476
03:01:27,680 --> 03:01:30,600
from people that would ask about WCW and kind of

3477
03:01:30,639 --> 03:01:32,879
like troll jobs, and they'd try to, you know, Vince

3478
03:01:32,959 --> 03:01:35,760
Russo would try to say shooty things on the show.

3479
03:01:36,239 --> 03:01:37,799
Speaker 5: And uh, what do you know?

3480
03:01:37,920 --> 03:01:40,920
Speaker 14: Christmas nineteen ninety six, that live wire not Christmas Day,

3481
03:01:40,959 --> 03:01:43,559
but that you know, the live wire before Christmas. Sid

3482
03:01:43,680 --> 03:01:48,159
makes the trip. The WWF champion is in studio, and Boss,

3483
03:01:48,200 --> 03:01:50,879
you better believe he's taking your calls.

3484
03:01:51,479 --> 03:01:53,440
Speaker 32: But if we take some calls from the subs and

3485
03:01:54,040 --> 03:01:55,959
go to Craig in Florida, Craig you.

3486
03:01:56,040 --> 03:01:58,000
Speaker 35: That, oh, I'm certainly here. Good morning to you.

3487
03:01:58,159 --> 03:01:59,879
Speaker 5: Donc get goodness sure this is a real guy.

3488
03:02:00,040 --> 03:02:02,079
Speaker 35: By the way you the man did. I was there

3489
03:02:02,159 --> 03:02:04,920
West Palm Beat Auditorium. The way you took care of Brett.

3490
03:02:04,760 --> 03:02:06,799
Speaker 25: To hit man heart a thing of beauty.

3491
03:02:07,040 --> 03:02:08,639
Speaker 35: I got to tell you, root for you to take

3492
03:02:08,680 --> 03:02:09,559
care of Sewn Michaels.

3493
03:02:09,600 --> 03:02:12,040
Speaker 31: I'm tired of hearing him running his mouth, complaining Brett

3494
03:02:12,079 --> 03:02:14,799
Harr complaining you got anything in doors special for Shawn

3495
03:02:14,840 --> 03:02:15,840
Michaels to take him down.

3496
03:02:16,399 --> 03:02:17,760
Speaker 9: I'm will tell you a step that I'm going to

3497
03:02:17,799 --> 03:02:20,959
take to Sean Michael's Trim Survivor series when has always

3498
03:02:21,040 --> 03:02:23,559
worked for me, and that is my game plan. That

3499
03:02:23,760 --> 03:02:27,440
is power, that is strange, and that's what's coming straight on,

3500
03:02:28,040 --> 03:02:28,479
straight on.

3501
03:02:29,000 --> 03:02:30,840
Speaker 5: Well right now, tell you who's straight on.

3502
03:02:34,479 --> 03:02:34,719
Speaker 36: Today?

3503
03:02:34,799 --> 03:02:36,920
Speaker 25: Good morning, b You have a question?

3504
03:02:36,959 --> 03:02:40,239
Speaker 35: Ever said? Yeah, Well, first of all, I decided I'm

3505
03:02:40,239 --> 03:02:42,559
a major SIT fan for years. I think it's about

3506
03:02:42,600 --> 03:02:46,239
time that he has a title. Right, And my question

3507
03:02:46,440 --> 03:02:49,840
is how older wife said, doesn't put his opponents o

3508
03:02:49,959 --> 03:02:52,360
stretcher and knocking on the alley more like he used to.

3509
03:02:52,760 --> 03:02:54,079
Speaker 5: Well, let me tell you something.

3510
03:02:54,399 --> 03:02:57,520
Speaker 12: See that's what that's what I might have him store

3511
03:02:57,639 --> 03:03:01,639
coming Alamo. Don't but don't be surprised if it happened

3512
03:03:01,879 --> 03:03:05,120
and Yushaine Michael or the first one to be stretchered out.

3513
03:03:05,840 --> 03:03:06,159
Speaker 2: Cool.

3514
03:03:06,600 --> 03:03:09,360
Speaker 4: I believe them could be a prophetics named it. There

3515
03:03:10,079 --> 03:03:11,680
are you saying that you would like to.

3516
03:03:11,719 --> 03:03:14,159
Speaker 33: Have Shawn stretched out in front of seventy thousand people?

3517
03:03:14,600 --> 03:03:16,680
Speaker 9: I would just say that it would it would just

3518
03:03:16,920 --> 03:03:18,559
prove everyone's too is demand?

3519
03:03:19,079 --> 03:03:21,879
Speaker 33: Well, I would have to say, right now, twenty seven days,

3520
03:03:22,000 --> 03:03:24,920
you power bomb Brett Hard and Shawn Michael's within that

3521
03:03:25,040 --> 03:03:27,799
twenty seven days. Undoubtedly we are in a new era

3522
03:03:27,959 --> 03:03:29,520
here in the World Wrestling Federation.

3523
03:03:29,879 --> 03:03:30,399
Speaker 16: But sid you.

3524
03:03:30,479 --> 03:03:32,360
Speaker 33: Gotta admit your work's cut out for you three weeks

3525
03:03:32,399 --> 03:03:32,840
from the morrow.

3526
03:03:32,959 --> 03:03:34,840
Speaker 9: Well, I'm gonna tell you something. My work has been

3527
03:03:34,879 --> 03:03:37,120
cut out the day one dog, But I'm gonna tell

3528
03:03:37,120 --> 03:03:37,479
you something.

3529
03:03:37,559 --> 03:03:38,680
Speaker 5: My head's off to you, SHAWNE.

3530
03:03:38,719 --> 03:03:39,040
Speaker 17: Michael.

3531
03:03:39,319 --> 03:03:40,040
Speaker 5: My hat's off to you.

3532
03:03:40,200 --> 03:03:43,799
Speaker 9: Bretton Hitman Heart, the one time World Wrestling Federation Champion.

3533
03:03:44,399 --> 03:03:47,120
I now know the pressures of having this belt around

3534
03:03:47,159 --> 03:03:50,159
your waist. I feel the pressures on my shoulders, but

3535
03:03:50,360 --> 03:03:52,879
I actually take the pressures and I can carry the

3536
03:03:53,000 --> 03:03:55,440
load of the World Wrestling Federation.

3537
03:03:55,760 --> 03:03:57,319
Speaker 25: Let me ask you about pressure.

3538
03:03:57,959 --> 03:03:58,159
Speaker 5: Now.

3539
03:03:58,479 --> 03:03:59,639
Speaker 25: We talked about this earlier.

3540
03:03:59,760 --> 03:04:02,559
Speaker 4: You do have a beat fan following.

3541
03:04:04,000 --> 03:04:04,719
Speaker 5: Your mindset.

3542
03:04:05,079 --> 03:04:06,959
Speaker 25: You don't care what happens as long as you get

3543
03:04:07,000 --> 03:04:07,520
a victory.

3544
03:04:07,840 --> 03:04:11,040
Speaker 13: Now, how important are these people as far as motivating you?

3545
03:04:11,520 --> 03:04:12,399
Speaker 5: Will tell you something.

3546
03:04:12,440 --> 03:04:14,520
Speaker 9: When you're down, your look, your face is down on

3547
03:04:14,600 --> 03:04:17,280
the mat. The only thing that brings you up is

3548
03:04:17,399 --> 03:04:21,799
the fans, either doing or cheering the fans. Everything that

3549
03:04:22,319 --> 03:04:24,719
comes through your body and out through into your heart

3550
03:04:24,879 --> 03:04:26,719
and out your eyes, out to your skin.

3551
03:04:26,840 --> 03:04:28,680
Speaker 4: Pards here feel the fans.

3552
03:04:29,120 --> 03:04:30,239
Speaker 5: I feel them, and.

3553
03:04:31,799 --> 03:04:33,639
Speaker 9: I've heard them from day once since I've been back

3554
03:04:33,639 --> 03:04:36,239
in the World Rusting Federation, and I will continue.

3555
03:04:36,360 --> 03:04:36,559
Speaker 5: Doc.

3556
03:04:37,360 --> 03:04:38,879
Speaker 6: Are you go ahead?

3557
03:04:38,920 --> 03:04:40,200
Speaker 37: Would one mind taking another phone call?

3558
03:04:40,239 --> 03:04:41,520
Speaker 13: And those people would love to shock you.

3559
03:04:41,959 --> 03:04:43,159
Speaker 27: Let's take Mike in Connecticut.

3560
03:04:43,239 --> 03:04:44,799
Speaker 35: Mikey there, Yeah, how are you doing?

3561
03:04:45,079 --> 03:04:45,959
Speaker 5: You got a question for sick?

3562
03:04:46,040 --> 03:04:46,239
Speaker 6: Yeah?

3563
03:04:46,239 --> 03:04:47,479
Speaker 17: Happy holidays everybody.

3564
03:04:47,639 --> 03:04:47,879
Speaker 36: Thank you.

3565
03:04:48,399 --> 03:04:48,639
Speaker 35: Sid.

3566
03:04:48,719 --> 03:04:50,760
Speaker 17: I just want to say I'm a major fan of yours.

3567
03:04:50,799 --> 03:04:54,200
Speaker 35: I'm glad that you destroyed the heartburn kid there, and uh,

3568
03:04:55,079 --> 03:04:55,440
what's on?

3569
03:04:55,760 --> 03:04:55,879
Speaker 15: Uh?

3570
03:04:56,200 --> 03:04:58,719
Speaker 17: What else is on the horizon for sit in ninety seven,

3571
03:04:58,840 --> 03:05:00,719
not only with yeah on coming.

3572
03:05:00,639 --> 03:05:04,000
Speaker 13: Up and possibly Brett, but maybe a possible match with

3573
03:05:04,079 --> 03:05:05,319
you Invader maybe.

3574
03:05:05,280 --> 03:05:06,440
Speaker 9: Well, I'm gonna tell you something.

3575
03:05:06,520 --> 03:05:06,920
Speaker 6: Messages.

3576
03:05:07,319 --> 03:05:11,000
Speaker 9: Being the World Wrestling Fair Racing Champion, you cannot go

3577
03:05:11,280 --> 03:05:12,879
by thinking who's your next opponent.

3578
03:05:13,040 --> 03:05:15,120
Speaker 17: You gotta live off the interstinct.

3579
03:05:14,680 --> 03:05:17,319
Speaker 9: And instinct is the only thing that's gonna make you survive,

3580
03:05:17,639 --> 03:05:19,000
help you make it to the next day.

3581
03:05:19,159 --> 03:05:20,879
Speaker 17: And that's the one thing I have going for me

3582
03:05:21,159 --> 03:05:22,000
is good instinct.

3583
03:05:22,479 --> 03:05:39,959
Speaker 1: I have a la fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast

3584
03:05:40,040 --> 03:05:43,399
that knows the boys need their candy. It's the lapsed

3585
03:05:43,479 --> 03:06:01,440
fan fan wrestling with Jack.

3586
03:06:01,520 --> 03:06:05,760
Speaker 5: And that's the one thing he's got going for him.

3587
03:06:05,799 --> 03:06:08,239
Boss Good. Who's the woman there that's sunny?

3588
03:06:09,680 --> 03:06:10,959
Speaker 15: It was.

3589
03:06:11,040 --> 03:06:13,760
Speaker 14: Yeah, obviously the tape quality is poor, but they don't

3590
03:06:13,799 --> 03:06:16,920
have pristine quality ones on the on the network for

3591
03:06:17,079 --> 03:06:21,000
this live wire stuff. But yeah, that's one thing he's

3592
03:06:21,000 --> 03:06:23,799
always had going for him as instinct, uh.

3593
03:06:25,280 --> 03:06:26,559
Speaker 5: Is in Yes he stinks.

3594
03:06:26,719 --> 03:06:30,760
Speaker 14: Isn't he such a charmer? And that extemporaneous speaking role,

3595
03:06:31,959 --> 03:06:33,520
it's awful. What's awful about it?

3596
03:06:34,239 --> 03:06:36,120
Speaker 5: He just because he doesn't know what to fucking say.

3597
03:06:36,200 --> 03:06:39,879
He's got right, It's like he he It's like he

3598
03:06:39,959 --> 03:06:42,120
comes in there with an attitude and then he blanks,

3599
03:06:43,719 --> 03:06:45,399
you know, and he realized that the it's like the

3600
03:06:45,440 --> 03:06:48,840
attitude can't get you through it all, Like you need

3601
03:06:49,200 --> 03:06:53,280
more this attitude. You need to have a fucking point.

3602
03:06:53,360 --> 03:06:57,159
Speaker 14: It's like I already said that. Uh, I already said that.

3603
03:06:57,440 --> 03:06:59,360
You can almost hear him like run out of things.

3604
03:07:00,120 --> 03:07:02,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, And it's awful later.

3605
03:07:02,840 --> 03:07:04,559
Speaker 14: On in the show, and it wasn't I try to

3606
03:07:04,600 --> 03:07:06,680
write home about But Shawn michaels him cell phones in

3607
03:07:07,399 --> 03:07:10,079
probably slept in as well and screamed it said a

3608
03:07:10,120 --> 03:07:12,239
little bit and said we'll rustling Federation one hundred times.

3609
03:07:12,840 --> 03:07:15,120
And we go to the December thirtieth raw where Brett

3610
03:07:15,159 --> 03:07:17,079
and Seawan are in a face off and they call Sewan,

3611
03:07:17,120 --> 03:07:19,120
I believe, for the very first time on WF television,

3612
03:07:19,159 --> 03:07:21,799
a degenerate. I think it's the first time really the

3613
03:07:21,840 --> 03:07:25,319
word degeneratives used, yes, and then Brett attacks Austin during

3614
03:07:25,360 --> 03:07:28,280
a tag match. Brett says, this is the show, the

3615
03:07:28,319 --> 03:07:30,680
December thirtieth raw where Brett jumps on Sean for being

3616
03:07:30,680 --> 03:07:35,040
in Playgirl, which was a key kind of point of

3617
03:07:35,079 --> 03:07:37,520
friction between the two, something where you know, Brett of

3618
03:07:37,559 --> 03:07:39,799
course claims he cleared it with Sean beforehand, but Seawn

3619
03:07:39,920 --> 03:07:42,600
just took it in a way that wasn't expected. He says, Playgirl,

3620
03:07:42,639 --> 03:07:44,680
I don't think any girls buy that magazine, you know,

3621
03:07:44,799 --> 03:07:49,760
intimating whatever you will, and then he says, you've degraded

3622
03:07:49,760 --> 03:07:52,440
the championship, which is a you know, it's a little

3623
03:07:52,479 --> 03:07:55,639
close to home too, because, like I said, you can

3624
03:07:55,719 --> 03:07:58,360
look at it as Brett saying that because Shawn's in Playgirl,

3625
03:07:58,440 --> 03:08:01,760
and like doing immoral things. But you can also look

3626
03:08:01,799 --> 03:08:04,239
at it as you've degraded the title in that it's

3627
03:08:04,280 --> 03:08:06,639
not as right, it's not as prestigious as it was

3628
03:08:06,680 --> 03:08:07,559
when I had it, and you know.

3629
03:08:07,639 --> 03:08:09,760
Speaker 5: It right and because you want it right.

3630
03:08:11,399 --> 03:08:13,280
Speaker 14: He's basically Brett comes right out and says, if you're

3631
03:08:13,319 --> 03:08:17,319
not fourteen year old, fourteen years old and female, you

3632
03:08:17,399 --> 03:08:22,159
were a step down essentially as champion, and h I

3633
03:08:22,360 --> 03:08:25,000
kick your ass because I can, and Sean says, yeah.

3634
03:08:26,079 --> 03:08:27,639
This is where Sean fires back, and I have a

3635
03:08:27,680 --> 03:08:29,959
hard time believing that this one was arranged ahead of time.

3636
03:08:30,319 --> 03:08:32,399
He says it with kind of like an annoyed tone.

3637
03:08:32,440 --> 03:08:34,440
He says, I've seen you on the road, pal, and

3638
03:08:34,600 --> 03:08:39,319
you're no role model. Wow, Sean bringing up you know,

3639
03:08:39,440 --> 03:08:41,040
that's kind of like a preview of the Sunny Days

3640
03:08:41,079 --> 03:08:43,559
comment in a lot of ways. Yeah, sure, So this

3641
03:08:43,799 --> 03:08:47,799
is like the first to me claws out caddy kind

3642
03:08:47,840 --> 03:08:50,440
of exchange between Sean and bretn on television. They'd had brawls,

3643
03:08:50,479 --> 03:08:53,040
they had had cross words, but they always felt like

3644
03:08:53,120 --> 03:08:57,319
they had more pomp and circumstance and blustered to them

3645
03:08:57,399 --> 03:09:00,360
and sort of like promo over the topness whereas this

3646
03:09:00,399 --> 03:09:01,879
one was kind of like, these guys are cutting into

3647
03:09:01,920 --> 03:09:05,920
each other saying things that that it's not really business

3648
03:09:06,040 --> 03:09:08,280
to to say those things about Sean.

3649
03:09:08,479 --> 03:09:10,360
Speaker 5: You know, it's it's not going to help.

3650
03:09:10,760 --> 03:09:12,479
Speaker 14: It might help sell the match, but it's not going

3651
03:09:12,559 --> 03:09:16,559
to help, you know, Sean be perceived as as someone

3652
03:09:16,600 --> 03:09:18,520
to be taken seriously as an n ring guy, and

3653
03:09:18,559 --> 03:09:21,680
he's coming up on the Royal Rumble, and you've got

3654
03:09:21,719 --> 03:09:24,360
Brett reminding people that gay guys look at playgirl. You know,

3655
03:09:25,239 --> 03:09:28,040
I'm not sure this isn't actually a huge moment because

3656
03:09:28,079 --> 03:09:30,559
these two. Yeah, but the point of this for our

3657
03:09:30,600 --> 03:09:33,319
purposes this time is Sid comes out any screams you've

3658
03:09:33,360 --> 03:09:35,920
played the game, I'm sure, He says, it's very simple

3659
03:09:36,000 --> 03:09:36,520
at one point.

3660
03:09:36,559 --> 03:09:40,120
Speaker 5: That's another one. Yeah, simple, very simple. Yeah, it has

3661
03:09:40,200 --> 03:09:43,120
to be real simple. It has to be Sid. I mean,

3662
03:09:43,159 --> 03:09:46,719
they wouldn't they wouldn't hand you something complicated to say. Yeah, listen,

3663
03:09:47,159 --> 03:09:49,639
you've proved that simplicity is the only way you can go.

3664
03:09:50,760 --> 03:09:53,799
Speaker 14: He says, I've beat you both. I need competition. And

3665
03:09:53,920 --> 03:09:56,440
it's at this point December thirtieth, nineteen ninety six, this

3666
03:09:56,559 --> 03:09:59,440
is the line in the sand. To me, the Undertaker's

3667
03:09:59,479 --> 03:10:03,440
gong hits, and the Undertaker comes out, and they tease

3668
03:10:03,520 --> 03:10:05,680
for the first time that Sid and Undertaker is a

3669
03:10:05,760 --> 03:10:08,479
match you will want to see. Now, we've heard Bruce

3670
03:10:08,520 --> 03:10:12,479
Pritchard say before that Sid Undertaker was always going to

3671
03:10:12,479 --> 03:10:16,319
be at WrestleMania, but not necessarily for the championship, and

3672
03:10:16,399 --> 03:10:18,120
that really tracks when you think about the kind of

3673
03:10:18,159 --> 03:10:20,760
opponent they tended to match up Undertaker with at WrestleMania

3674
03:10:20,840 --> 03:10:23,559
in that sure period. Sure, totally someone of his height

3675
03:10:23,680 --> 03:10:26,079
and stature. It was Diesel, it was Jan Gonzalez, it

3676
03:10:26,200 --> 03:10:27,879
was huge guys.

3677
03:10:28,040 --> 03:10:31,000
Speaker 5: And kund it was everybody.

3678
03:10:31,639 --> 03:10:33,840
Speaker 14: So I think we're within our rights to think of

3679
03:10:33,920 --> 03:10:38,319
what we're seeing here is them setting up Sean winning

3680
03:10:38,360 --> 03:10:41,120
the title back from Sid and wrestling Brett Hart at WrestleMania,

3681
03:10:41,959 --> 03:10:45,760
and Sid facing Undertaker in a singles match, but knowing

3682
03:10:45,879 --> 03:10:48,079
that a non title match, but knowing that it becomes

3683
03:10:48,079 --> 03:10:49,920
Sid and Taker for the title. It's also easy to

3684
03:10:49,959 --> 03:10:52,520
look at this raw and say, oh, they knew that

3685
03:10:52,639 --> 03:10:54,680
that was going to be the WrestleMania thirteen main event

3686
03:10:55,319 --> 03:10:57,719
months before, But I don't think that's what this was.

3687
03:10:57,760 --> 03:11:00,559
I think this was them setting up a match for

3688
03:11:00,719 --> 03:11:03,879
after Sid dropped the strap with no consideration of it

3689
03:11:03,959 --> 03:11:06,799
being a match where Undertaker would win the belt, just

3690
03:11:06,879 --> 03:11:09,559
because of the way it's presaged by the Brett Sean fight.

3691
03:11:09,879 --> 03:11:12,840
That's clearly trying to set up and get you excited

3692
03:11:12,879 --> 03:11:15,920
for Brett versus Sean on the other side, just fascinating

3693
03:11:15,959 --> 03:11:18,799
stuff going on, all kinds of games. So Taker comes out,

3694
03:11:18,879 --> 03:11:21,239
Vader attacks Hi, actually because Vader's going to wrestle Undertaker

3695
03:11:21,239 --> 03:11:25,959
at Royal Rumble. Remember that, oh god, Vader pins Undertaker

3696
03:11:26,040 --> 03:11:30,079
clean at the Royal Rumble, which is to me probably

3697
03:11:30,120 --> 03:11:33,280
a make good for stepping aside in the fall and

3698
03:11:33,360 --> 03:11:36,000
letting Sid take the center stage and the championship. And

3699
03:11:36,079 --> 03:11:39,479
if you give a Vader Winter Undertaker, then it can

3700
03:11:39,760 --> 03:11:41,600
come back and benefit him later. Of course, it never

3701
03:11:41,680 --> 03:11:44,520
really did, No, it did not. It was a complete

3702
03:11:44,719 --> 03:11:48,120
waste of waste of a match. But it is important

3703
03:11:48,120 --> 03:11:50,319
to remember that the final rob nineteen ninety six has

3704
03:11:50,360 --> 03:11:53,520
Sid and the Undertaker facing off and then Sean doing

3705
03:11:53,600 --> 03:11:55,879
a big dive over the ropes to the floor onto Sid,

3706
03:11:55,959 --> 03:11:59,440
and it's a big old brawl. We flip the calendar

3707
03:11:59,440 --> 03:12:01,760
to nineteen eighty seven. On the January sixth, raw the

3708
03:12:01,799 --> 03:12:04,879
first of ninety seven. As Sid makes his way to

3709
03:12:04,959 --> 03:12:07,600
the ring. The signs and the crowd include one that

3710
03:12:07,719 --> 03:12:09,959
says Sid enough said.

3711
03:12:11,239 --> 03:12:13,399
Speaker 5: If only that was the case, and no right, I

3712
03:12:13,440 --> 03:12:17,399
mean it's funny on so many levels.

3713
03:12:17,680 --> 03:12:21,440
Speaker 21: On January the nineteenth, in San Antonio, Texas, there will

3714
03:12:21,479 --> 03:12:26,440
be seventy thousand fans in attendance, cheering the hometown hero

3715
03:12:27,280 --> 03:12:30,440
Sean Michaels, who will attempt to regain.

3716
03:12:30,440 --> 03:12:31,879
Speaker 3: The WWF title?

3717
03:12:33,680 --> 03:12:37,079
Speaker 5: Or are you that didn't sound positive in timid days?

3718
03:12:37,159 --> 03:12:41,719
Speaker 21: No about going into such hostile territory in San Antonio.

3719
03:12:43,319 --> 03:12:49,680
Speaker 11: See dear Ross, you haven't even got a clue because

3720
03:12:50,239 --> 03:12:53,239
I intimidated by nothing.

3721
03:12:55,159 --> 03:13:01,719
Speaker 19: No man, then wolves, what we're standing in.

3722
03:13:01,840 --> 03:13:06,399
Speaker 16: Here right, here's what I consider the dying field.

3723
03:13:07,360 --> 03:13:09,040
Speaker 19: And inside this area.

3724
03:13:11,639 --> 03:13:14,000
Speaker 5: We'll be hidden hitting.

3725
03:13:13,920 --> 03:13:19,520
Speaker 19: The dick, We'll be dickings. I'm caso take.

3726
03:13:19,399 --> 03:13:20,239
Speaker 2: The camera.

3727
03:13:21,479 --> 03:13:24,479
Speaker 30: And hit someone before you were hit first.

3728
03:13:25,079 --> 03:13:28,719
Speaker 13: Told you wouldn't apologize me, man, good.

3729
03:13:28,600 --> 03:13:33,799
Speaker 16: Dying Seeing San Antonio Talamo Dome, everybody's gonna.

3730
03:13:33,600 --> 03:13:36,479
Speaker 3: Realize something dislike that scene that.

3731
03:13:36,639 --> 03:13:37,639
Speaker 2: Day I was born.

3732
03:13:38,520 --> 03:13:39,920
Speaker 3: I was born the man.

3733
03:13:43,920 --> 03:13:49,559
Speaker 16: See Sean Michaels, you, my friend, you can never have

3734
03:13:49,959 --> 03:13:52,440
that clean I don't care, even if it's.

3735
03:13:52,360 --> 03:13:53,319
Speaker 7: In your hometown.

3736
03:13:54,520 --> 03:13:58,360
Speaker 16: So I'm gonna walk kidsto San Antonio. But the yards

3737
03:13:58,399 --> 03:13:59,040
against me.

3738
03:14:00,840 --> 03:14:01,840
Speaker 2: I will walk in.

3739
03:14:02,040 --> 03:14:02,680
Speaker 7: The man.

3740
03:14:07,040 --> 03:14:08,440
Speaker 3: And I will walk out.

3741
03:14:12,520 --> 03:14:19,280
Speaker 38: Yes, Oh, look out the man. Oh I say this,

3742
03:14:21,760 --> 03:14:26,000
does it, Susan? Because I am the master?

3743
03:14:27,600 --> 03:14:30,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I am the ru the ruler. Blah blah

3744
03:14:30,840 --> 03:14:37,559
blah blah blah. I get it. Well.

3745
03:14:37,600 --> 03:14:40,120
Speaker 8: That remained today saying I would suggest I remember said

3746
03:14:40,280 --> 03:14:41,360
is not the underdog.

3747
03:14:41,879 --> 03:14:44,319
Speaker 4: John Michaels clearly is the hunderdog.

3748
03:14:44,639 --> 03:14:45,559
Speaker 2: Cannot learn about it.

3749
03:14:46,319 --> 03:14:49,200
Speaker 14: I somehow don't understand, don't remember or call boss when

3750
03:14:49,200 --> 03:14:52,479
we were doing the Terry Funk Journey uh doing his

3751
03:14:52,639 --> 03:14:54,639
interviews in succession and being like, oh god, here he

3752
03:14:54,719 --> 03:14:57,040
goes again. I don't think a single time.

3753
03:14:58,120 --> 03:15:02,639
Speaker 5: It's like it really is. Know, it's impactful when he

3754
03:15:02,719 --> 03:15:08,200
says it once in a while, but every time it's

3755
03:15:08,280 --> 03:15:08,680
not good.

3756
03:15:08,799 --> 03:15:10,719
Speaker 14: Guys shouldn't even talk for like a month, you know,

3757
03:15:11,280 --> 03:15:13,639
I know, you should only be brought to talk in

3758
03:15:13,719 --> 03:15:17,639
an explosion of you know, intensity or something. Yeah, but

3759
03:15:17,719 --> 03:15:20,280
I mean we're really seeing you know, his upper his

3760
03:15:20,399 --> 03:15:22,639
upper limit, We're seeing his ceiling, and we forget this

3761
03:15:23,280 --> 03:15:26,239
when when the guy passes away, and we, you know,

3762
03:15:26,360 --> 03:15:29,440
think so fondly on the moments that he participated in

3763
03:15:29,520 --> 03:15:32,239
that impacted us as fans when a week to week

3764
03:15:32,280 --> 03:15:33,639
it was kind of a chore to watch him do

3765
03:15:33,719 --> 03:15:37,559
his thing, even as WWF champion. So here there we

3766
03:15:37,639 --> 03:15:40,440
are in nineteen ninety seven. Later, Sean comes to the

3767
03:15:40,440 --> 03:15:43,159
commentary table and Sid says he wants to apologize for

3768
03:15:43,280 --> 03:15:45,440
what he's going to do. He's someone apologize to you

3769
03:15:45,559 --> 03:15:48,159
for attacking over Lithario. He wants to apologize for what

3770
03:15:48,239 --> 03:15:48,719
he's going.

3771
03:15:48,600 --> 03:15:49,000
Speaker 17: To do to you.

3772
03:15:49,159 --> 03:15:53,719
Speaker 5: How aboudy apologizing to us for fucking awful promo? Oh

3773
03:15:53,760 --> 03:15:56,000
he doesn't do that. Later on the show.

3774
03:15:56,120 --> 03:15:57,879
Speaker 14: I don't know if you remember this, Remember when Pete

3775
03:15:57,920 --> 03:16:00,559
Lothario's son was backstage and said power bombed him on

3776
03:16:00,559 --> 03:16:00,920
a table.

3777
03:16:01,840 --> 03:16:09,360
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean Pete Lothario, Pete. I remember seeing

3778
03:16:10,239 --> 03:16:11,760
clips of it. I didn't see it happen.

3779
03:16:12,399 --> 03:16:14,680
Speaker 14: Yeah, they played it up on the Rumol Landy seven

3780
03:16:14,719 --> 03:16:16,760
broadcast as well. But it's on this raw or Pete

3781
03:16:16,799 --> 03:16:19,399
Lothario's backstage and his cowboy boots or whatever, and Sid

3782
03:16:19,680 --> 03:16:22,159
grabs him by the throat. Just an innocent bystander, right,

3783
03:16:22,799 --> 03:16:27,479
to further exacerbate the the cowardly attacks that he was

3784
03:16:27,559 --> 03:16:33,120
making on Lothario to get it Sean heading into. But

3785
03:16:33,520 --> 03:16:36,000
then we have an inspired promo and come to find

3786
03:16:36,040 --> 03:16:38,159
out there is a different approach to this one. This

3787
03:16:38,399 --> 03:16:41,559
is a promo that Sid cut in an empty Alamo

3788
03:16:41,639 --> 03:16:43,479
Dome to be the site of his upcoming match with

3789
03:16:43,559 --> 03:16:47,000
Sean Michaels, and Sid is kind of contemplating on what's

3790
03:16:47,040 --> 03:16:48,719
going to happen in these hallowed halls?

3791
03:16:49,360 --> 03:16:51,040
Speaker 5: Uh in just a in just a little while.

3792
03:16:51,639 --> 03:16:54,239
Speaker 14: And the thing about this interview that's different is Sid

3793
03:16:54,280 --> 03:16:56,319
has said and shoots that this is pretty much the

3794
03:16:56,399 --> 03:16:58,440
only one that comes to his mind when they ask

3795
03:16:58,559 --> 03:17:00,959
him the question about you know, is it better now

3796
03:17:01,000 --> 03:17:03,120
that guys are handed scripts to read on promos than

3797
03:17:03,159 --> 03:17:06,040
it was before when they weren't. And he does say

3798
03:17:06,079 --> 03:17:09,159
that this promo right here was the only example that

3799
03:17:09,239 --> 03:17:12,399
he remembers a Vince handing him basically a script handing him,

3800
03:17:12,639 --> 03:17:14,040
you know, the structure of what to say.

3801
03:17:14,719 --> 03:17:15,280
Speaker 5: And he liked it.

3802
03:17:15,920 --> 03:17:17,799
Speaker 14: He said, I really thought it was thought out well.

3803
03:17:17,879 --> 03:17:19,319
It was something that at the time was a perfect

3804
03:17:19,360 --> 03:17:21,159
interview for the right time for that show, and it

3805
03:17:21,239 --> 03:17:23,920
was leaning up to the big show that at the

3806
03:17:23,959 --> 03:17:25,920
Alamo with Sean. I was in that empty arena and

3807
03:17:25,920 --> 03:17:28,760
I pretty much did word for word with Vince. They

3808
03:17:28,799 --> 03:17:30,239
were that good all the time. If they were that

3809
03:17:30,319 --> 03:17:31,719
good all the time, he said, I'd sit back and

3810
03:17:31,799 --> 03:17:33,000
let them do all those all the time.

3811
03:17:33,040 --> 03:17:35,799
Speaker 5: But they weren't. And he said he had the luxury

3812
03:17:35,840 --> 03:17:37,639
because he kept a lot of the inner material himself.

3813
03:17:38,440 --> 03:17:41,760
Of being prepared, he says, he is always going to

3814
03:17:41,799 --> 03:17:47,719
be prepared with something you know exactly. But Vince would say,

3815
03:17:47,760 --> 03:17:49,559
you know, this guy knows his interviews. I doubt he'd

3816
03:17:49,559 --> 03:17:53,120
say that. But he says, they let me look at

3817
03:17:53,159 --> 03:17:54,959
one and say do you like this or what do

3818
03:17:55,040 --> 03:17:56,040
you think? You know?

3819
03:17:56,040 --> 03:17:58,840
Speaker 14: They would bring material by him, and Sid says, if

3820
03:17:58,879 --> 03:18:01,000
I had one better than that, they'd let me do mine.

3821
03:18:02,239 --> 03:18:03,440
But he thinks of this one right here is one

3822
03:18:03,440 --> 03:18:05,559
of the better interviews he did. It was laid out perfect.

3823
03:18:05,680 --> 03:18:07,559
So if they come up with things like that, I'd say,

3824
03:18:08,159 --> 03:18:09,879
that's what I let them do. I think a lot

3825
03:18:09,920 --> 03:18:12,120
of times myself will have something good to say too,

3826
03:18:12,920 --> 03:18:15,200
and so I think I'll listen to him in that instance. Well,

3827
03:18:15,879 --> 03:18:16,600
you'd be the judge.

3828
03:18:16,680 --> 03:18:17,760
Speaker 5: This is Sid.

3829
03:18:19,239 --> 03:18:22,120
Speaker 14: Holding court, so to speak, under different pretenses and auspices.

3830
03:18:22,600 --> 03:18:25,680
Ahead of the Alamodim MATCHICT Royal Rumble with Shawn Michaels.

3831
03:18:27,559 --> 03:18:32,040
Speaker 28: See over one hundred years ago, a great German philosopher.

3832
03:18:32,719 --> 03:18:38,840
He said, in the act of fighting monsters and the procedure,

3833
03:18:39,120 --> 03:18:43,719
be sure that you don't become a monster yourself. But

3834
03:18:43,879 --> 03:18:47,840
in the Alamodome, I will have to be the monster.

3835
03:18:49,159 --> 03:18:54,200
Speaker 26: To take what is mine, to walk out the World.

3836
03:18:54,040 --> 03:18:55,520
Speaker 7: Wrestling Federation champion.

3837
03:18:55,799 --> 03:18:58,120
Speaker 26: And I think Sean Michaels would say the same thing.

3838
03:19:00,079 --> 03:19:05,520
Speaker 28: The battle progresses, and at the right moment, I reach out,

3839
03:19:05,639 --> 03:19:08,719
shine and I have you by your throat.

3840
03:19:10,920 --> 03:19:13,120
Speaker 4: The look did you look gift to me.

3841
03:19:15,239 --> 03:19:20,120
Speaker 27: Will be obvious for over here it ring inside or

3842
03:19:20,200 --> 03:19:24,120
be your mother, And once you will know that look too,

3843
03:19:25,799 --> 03:19:29,079
and then all the way over here will.

3844
03:19:28,920 --> 03:19:32,959
Speaker 7: Be whole saved. He will know that look too, but

3845
03:19:33,200 --> 03:19:36,520
this time he won't get on the apron.

3846
03:19:36,520 --> 03:19:37,559
Speaker 5: Because he knows better.

3847
03:19:39,040 --> 03:19:41,840
Speaker 39: And if someone told me that this section over here

3848
03:19:42,239 --> 03:19:45,399
was gonna be nothing but your friends from your hometown,

3849
03:19:45,559 --> 03:19:51,799
Seehan Michaels, but they will see that look too. And Jose,

3850
03:19:52,280 --> 03:19:55,479
you are going to summon all the Mexicans from Mexico.

3851
03:19:55,360 --> 03:19:58,719
Speaker 11: And all above there, all above here, they will be

3852
03:19:59,239 --> 03:20:00,879
seventy thousand of them.

3853
03:20:01,600 --> 03:20:03,760
Speaker 3: And even at the highest seat of the roof.

3854
03:20:07,079 --> 03:20:14,559
Speaker 26: That look, and that look, this says at all, this

3855
03:20:14,719 --> 03:20:17,399
says Sid, You're a man.

3856
03:20:18,680 --> 03:20:19,479
Speaker 7: You're the master.

3857
03:20:20,680 --> 03:20:29,520
Speaker 14: And that was one several days out from the rumble,

3858
03:20:29,879 --> 03:20:32,360
and then the morning of the Rumble on Superstars, this aired.

3859
03:20:33,200 --> 03:20:35,920
Speaker 40: No doubt, ladies and gentlemen, he is the most intimidating,

3860
03:20:36,000 --> 03:20:41,120
the most imposing WWF champion of all time. At six nine,

3861
03:20:41,239 --> 03:20:45,200
three hundred and thirteen pounds, indeed, he is an intimidator.

3862
03:20:45,920 --> 03:20:48,120
But Sid, you're probably the only man that I can

3863
03:20:48,200 --> 03:20:51,360
think of within thirty days to beat the Shawn Michaels

3864
03:20:51,399 --> 03:20:53,639
at the Survivor series and then Brett Hart on December

3865
03:20:53,639 --> 03:20:56,280
the fifteenth. In your house, Shawn Michaels, I talk to

3866
03:20:56,360 --> 03:20:58,680
him earlier. Seems to be under obviously a great deal

3867
03:20:58,719 --> 03:21:01,840
of pressure. But one would think, because you're in his hometown,

3868
03:21:02,159 --> 03:21:04,319
that you too, sir, are under a great deal of

3869
03:21:04,360 --> 03:21:05,079
pressure as well.

3870
03:21:06,239 --> 03:21:07,760
Speaker 5: See, you're right, Jim Ross.

3871
03:21:08,440 --> 03:21:11,600
Speaker 3: Everyone would have to say that the crushers on me.

3872
03:21:12,479 --> 03:21:17,879
I am in your hometown, Sahn Michaels, I.

3873
03:21:18,000 --> 03:21:21,399
Speaker 5: Am the man, and the man feels no pressure.

3874
03:21:22,639 --> 03:21:24,120
Speaker 3: Let's go back to earlier today.

3875
03:21:24,920 --> 03:21:27,159
Speaker 27: Now, let's go back to Monday night roll when I

3876
03:21:27,239 --> 03:21:30,280
said at the Animal Doome that the people would see

3877
03:21:30,319 --> 03:21:34,600
it in your eyes were earlier today, Shahine Michaels, that

3878
03:21:35,159 --> 03:21:40,319
was there that same and then I heard the excuses.

3879
03:21:41,120 --> 03:21:44,000
Speaker 5: I have few, I don't feel good excuses.

3880
03:21:45,200 --> 03:21:46,959
Speaker 9: Try to walk.

3881
03:21:48,200 --> 03:21:51,680
Speaker 11: Let's see Sehn Michaels at the Royal Rumbo when you

3882
03:21:51,879 --> 03:21:56,159
enter the ring with me, then I finally get my head.

3883
03:22:02,600 --> 03:22:12,000
Speaker 41: Yeah, seventy suries. They will see the same look that

3884
03:22:12,159 --> 03:22:12,719
you show.

3885
03:22:14,479 --> 03:22:18,399
Speaker 19: They will see the same look for fear.

3886
03:22:20,280 --> 03:22:25,399
Speaker 26: That you cannot be the man. Yeah, for I am

3887
03:22:25,559 --> 03:22:30,920
the man, I am the master, I am the ruler.

3888
03:22:36,079 --> 03:22:41,680
Speaker 14: H Later on the Free for All, he came out

3889
03:22:41,719 --> 03:22:44,159
with the belt resting on his shoulder before the people

3890
03:22:44,159 --> 03:22:47,079
who had already filed in, and again apologized for what

3891
03:22:47,200 --> 03:22:50,559
he was about to do. To sit in Jose Lethario

3892
03:22:51,280 --> 03:22:55,040
and it's time for that walk boss to walk in

3893
03:22:56,159 --> 03:23:00,719
to a packed Alamodome as w w F champion.

3894
03:23:01,959 --> 03:23:05,559
Speaker 8: Sewn Michaels, Ladies and gentlemen applauding this capacity crowd.

3895
03:23:07,840 --> 03:23:09,639
Speaker 4: And there, ladies and gentlemen.

3896
03:23:09,680 --> 03:23:13,280
Speaker 8: There is the man if you would, there is the

3897
03:23:13,840 --> 03:23:18,840
World Rustling Federation champion. You can hear this capacity crowd beginning.

3898
03:23:18,520 --> 03:23:22,799
Speaker 4: To view booreadder what they are viewing on this massive screen.

3899
03:23:23,280 --> 03:23:28,959
Speaker 8: Yes, this monster and someone say this great champion on

3900
03:23:29,159 --> 03:23:31,319
his way to the square chuckle.

3901
03:23:31,799 --> 03:23:38,680
Speaker 4: He has indeed dominating the World Rustling.

3902
03:23:38,399 --> 03:23:43,319
Speaker 8: Federation as highest medal, defeating Sean Michael's defeating brown Hark.

3903
03:23:43,520 --> 03:23:45,280
Speaker 4: And that brings us to this Jr.

3904
03:23:45,479 --> 03:23:51,479
Speaker 14: This is Vince with one last flourishing what chifontimidating.

3905
03:23:51,319 --> 03:23:55,200
Speaker 21: More dominating peynacal champion.

3906
03:23:54,840 --> 03:24:46,479
Speaker 16: Ever s.

3907
03:25:00,040 --> 03:25:01,879
Speaker 4: Oh, it has come down to death.

3908
03:25:03,120 --> 03:25:09,159
Speaker 8: Shacko said, has his fans as well, Harry, the all

3909
03:25:09,239 --> 03:25:09,920
them all gone?

3910
03:25:11,760 --> 03:25:11,920
Speaker 6: Well?

3911
03:25:12,040 --> 03:25:15,319
Speaker 21: Fans them all out the United States over thirty states?

3912
03:25:16,440 --> 03:25:18,520
Speaker 3: Brief or patres are here?

3913
03:25:19,280 --> 03:25:22,959
Speaker 2: Sacha said, Yes, we'll have a scamandery a fans. I'm

3914
03:25:23,000 --> 03:25:24,280
sure they will be very much.

3915
03:25:24,719 --> 03:25:25,159
Speaker 6: That's right.

3916
03:25:25,239 --> 03:25:27,760
Speaker 32: You know what, this is a brilliant move by sich

3917
03:25:27,840 --> 03:25:30,920
Go Sin because I gotta tell you this, Sean Michael's

3918
03:25:30,959 --> 03:25:33,399
ego is so big it needs its own sip coach.

3919
03:25:33,600 --> 03:25:36,319
And when he sees even one from these over sixty

3920
03:25:36,399 --> 03:25:37,719
thousand fans, Jerry.

3921
03:25:37,520 --> 03:25:40,079
Speaker 6: Fer said, that could blow his mind.

3922
03:25:40,360 --> 03:25:41,879
Speaker 2: You can see Sean Michael snap.

3923
03:25:43,719 --> 03:25:47,760
Speaker 4: I'll just keep this in mind said apologized and the

3924
03:25:47,879 --> 03:25:50,760
free for All. He apologize for what he has to

3925
03:25:50,879 --> 03:25:55,120
do tonight and the last time he apologize. Pete Lethario

3926
03:25:55,280 --> 03:25:57,200
went through a table.

3927
03:25:59,280 --> 03:26:03,200
Speaker 8: Sid World Rustling Federation in Champion defeating Sean.

3928
03:26:03,040 --> 03:26:04,719
Speaker 13: Michael Fanam Square Garden.

3929
03:26:04,879 --> 03:26:07,440
Speaker 4: Half the survivors are and.

3930
03:26:07,559 --> 03:26:10,040
Speaker 2: I know where are they all at all?

3931
03:26:13,079 --> 03:26:18,079
Speaker 5: For Sean, it's just so disappointing kind of how, I

3932
03:26:18,120 --> 03:26:23,559
don't know, like, you know, he really fizzled so fast

3933
03:26:24,920 --> 03:26:31,319
as an interesting, badass bad guy. You're not feeling it there, No, no,

3934
03:26:31,799 --> 03:26:36,440
I'm over it. Really interesting, like he it's interesting. It's

3935
03:26:36,520 --> 03:26:41,520
kind of funny that his his promo work and his

3936
03:26:41,719 --> 03:26:48,520
intensity were much more easy to get behind before he

3937
03:26:48,639 --> 03:26:57,399
was champion. Yet when he becomes champion, he's uh, like

3938
03:26:57,520 --> 03:27:01,319
he just suddenly becomes utterly worthless. True. I mean it's

3939
03:27:01,360 --> 03:27:04,440
so you know, and I don't understand what about what

3940
03:27:04,559 --> 03:27:09,040
it is that makes that change. It's like you're giving

3941
03:27:09,120 --> 03:27:13,159
the belt, but why do you become different? Why do

3942
03:27:13,239 --> 03:27:17,120
you become why does it become such a buffoon?

3943
03:27:17,680 --> 03:27:22,319
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's it's interesting, you know, casting is important. Casting

3944
03:27:22,440 --> 03:27:25,719
is a skill. Casting as an art. Yeah, and in wrestling,

3945
03:27:25,799 --> 03:27:28,520
guys whore just casting in the correct role or they're

3946
03:27:28,559 --> 03:27:30,360
not and you only realize when they're taken out of

3947
03:27:30,399 --> 03:27:32,799
that role that, Okay, they're not multifaceted enough to play

3948
03:27:32,799 --> 03:27:36,399
any role. They can't they can't adjust, they can't be like, Okay,

3949
03:27:36,520 --> 03:27:37,920
this is what I used to say. But now that

3950
03:27:37,959 --> 03:27:41,239
I'm the champion, what the fans, The way the fans

3951
03:27:41,280 --> 03:27:42,719
are going to look at me is going to change,

3952
03:27:42,719 --> 03:27:44,440
and so the way I express myself and relate to

3953
03:27:44,520 --> 03:27:47,000
them has to change. In that I have to create

3954
03:27:47,159 --> 03:27:50,079
interest in my opponent. He doesn't create an interest in

3955
03:27:50,159 --> 03:27:52,959
his opponent. He just sort of says the same thing

3956
03:27:53,319 --> 03:27:55,399
that he said. He's got to be the menace at

3957
03:27:55,440 --> 03:27:58,520
the door. He knows how to do that, which is

3958
03:27:58,559 --> 03:27:59,840
why I actually put a little bit of credence and

3959
03:27:59,879 --> 03:28:01,879
care and asked joking about you know, when they were

3960
03:28:01,879 --> 03:28:03,360
going to give him the Hogan spot in ninety one.

3961
03:28:03,399 --> 03:28:04,840
He says, what you need is a big, vicious heel,

3962
03:28:04,920 --> 03:28:07,639
because he knows that doesn't quite know what to do

3963
03:28:07,840 --> 03:28:11,799
if he is the title holder, that that's not really

3964
03:28:12,040 --> 03:28:14,319
how he put himself in a position and make more

3965
03:28:14,360 --> 03:28:16,520
money than he ever expected in the wrestling business, earlier

3966
03:28:16,600 --> 03:28:19,159
than he ever would have expected. He's going to keep

3967
03:28:19,200 --> 03:28:21,680
doing this, and you know what you get with Sid.

3968
03:28:21,840 --> 03:28:24,000
Speaker 5: It's like Andre. If Andre had a title reign, you know, like,

3969
03:28:24,079 --> 03:28:29,559
what the fuck is he going to say with the belt? Yeah? Yeah,

3970
03:28:29,719 --> 03:28:32,120
I mean I guess you know, with Andre, you kind

3971
03:28:32,159 --> 03:28:34,600
of have somebody else speak for him.

3972
03:28:34,840 --> 03:28:39,559
Speaker 14: But because Sid never had a program where his challenger

3973
03:28:40,159 --> 03:28:44,280
was nipping at his heels and creating doubt, or a

3974
03:28:44,399 --> 03:28:46,600
challenger who was in his facing, I'm taking that belt

3975
03:28:46,639 --> 03:28:49,079
off you beyond Sean, which we'd already seen. We'd already

3976
03:28:49,079 --> 03:28:51,879
seen the dynamic between Sid and Sean, right, but Sid

3977
03:28:51,879 --> 03:28:53,200
didn't have a kind of run where he was able

3978
03:28:53,239 --> 03:28:55,079
to prove that, like, no, I can spark interest in

3979
03:28:55,159 --> 03:28:59,120
a challenger for my belt, and I know how to

3980
03:28:59,200 --> 03:29:01,440
adjust what I'm doing and how I'm reacting to make

3981
03:29:01,520 --> 03:29:04,319
this other person feel like they're rising to my level

3982
03:29:04,959 --> 03:29:06,440
and that I need to be worried about them and

3983
03:29:06,479 --> 03:29:08,559
therefore elevate them in the process. There really wasn't that.

3984
03:29:08,680 --> 03:29:10,920
He just came out, to your point, said the same

3985
03:29:10,959 --> 03:29:12,920
things he used to say now going into Royal Rumble

3986
03:29:12,959 --> 03:29:15,840
nineteen ninety seven, as someone who was rather mortified at

3987
03:29:15,840 --> 03:29:18,200
the crowd reaction at Survivor's Series nineteen ninety six, do

3988
03:29:18,239 --> 03:29:21,360
you remember feeling like this was justice was done and

3989
03:29:21,399 --> 03:29:23,200
all was right with the world again when Shawn wins

3990
03:29:23,239 --> 03:29:25,879
and you know, storybook fashion, you.

3991
03:29:25,920 --> 03:29:29,760
Speaker 5: Know, when Sean won the title back, it actually felt weird. Yes,

3992
03:29:29,799 --> 03:29:36,440
it did. It actually felt like it was I could

3993
03:29:36,479 --> 03:29:42,840
only the only equivalent championship run that I can think

3994
03:29:42,959 --> 03:29:48,399
of right now is when Flair won the title back

3995
03:29:48,479 --> 03:29:56,760
in ninety two, because both Flair and Sean had lost

3996
03:29:56,840 --> 03:30:06,559
the titles in such big fashion, splashy. Yeah, it just

3997
03:30:06,760 --> 03:30:12,159
didn't feel like I couldn't. It was like, there is

3998
03:30:12,440 --> 03:30:14,840
I don't feel it. I don't feel like they're champion anymore,

3999
03:30:15,000 --> 03:30:17,159
right right, All it really.

4000
03:30:17,040 --> 03:30:19,280
Speaker 14: Did was kind of cheap, and the feeling of the

4001
03:30:19,319 --> 03:30:21,200
first title reign like I kind of felt stupid for

4002
03:30:21,319 --> 03:30:24,319
being as over the top excited that Randy Savage pinned

4003
03:30:24,600 --> 03:30:27,200
mc flair at WrestleMania when Flair just won the belt

4004
03:30:27,200 --> 03:30:27,879
a few months back.

4005
03:30:28,840 --> 03:30:31,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it just, yeah, I don't know, there was there

4006
03:30:31,959 --> 03:30:34,079
was something about it. It just didn't I mean, I

4007
03:30:34,159 --> 03:30:36,600
knew that Sean was going to win, you know, I

4008
03:30:36,680 --> 03:30:43,559
mean it was such a foregone conclusion, but it just

4009
03:30:43,639 --> 03:30:48,799
didn't feel real. Yeah, it felt like that whole those

4010
03:30:48,920 --> 03:30:51,920
those few weeks that he held the belt again, it

4011
03:30:52,079 --> 03:30:55,639
was just so like, Wow, Sean Michaels is champion again.

4012
03:30:56,680 --> 03:30:57,399
It's so weird.

4013
03:30:57,840 --> 03:31:04,200
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, it's I don't know what all what allegory

4014
03:31:04,239 --> 03:31:10,760
to make what well, what the similar situation is. I

4015
03:31:10,799 --> 03:31:13,920
don't know, it's it's an analogy is tough because it's

4016
03:31:14,000 --> 03:31:17,399
like I'm trying to think of like in television, like

4017
03:31:18,319 --> 03:31:20,239
you know, after a show Cross that jumps the shark.

4018
03:31:20,280 --> 03:31:22,319
It's kind of hard not saying Sean jump the shark.

4019
03:31:22,399 --> 03:31:24,639
But it's like, really, you just want us to go

4020
03:31:24,799 --> 03:31:27,000
right back to feeling about Sean the way we felt

4021
03:31:27,040 --> 03:31:28,120
before Survivor series.

4022
03:31:28,719 --> 03:31:33,280
Speaker 5: Right, and there was no you know, especially with Sean

4023
03:31:33,399 --> 03:31:37,200
because he he'd been playing that that tweener character.

4024
03:31:37,280 --> 03:31:39,159
Speaker 14: Yeah, we we had an ambivalent feeling for a month

4025
03:31:39,239 --> 03:31:41,719
towards him in Bivlin feelings Brett hadn't turned fully heel

4026
03:31:41,760 --> 03:31:44,319
and yet he's he's he's trying to beat the shit

4027
03:31:44,319 --> 03:31:44,959
out of Brett Hart.

4028
03:31:45,000 --> 03:31:47,360
Speaker 5: And yeah, you know, it was a weird.

4029
03:31:47,959 --> 03:31:49,959
Speaker 14: There was a weird kind of like dissonance going on

4030
03:31:50,079 --> 03:31:52,559
with him because he still had to be the hometown

4031
03:31:52,639 --> 03:31:54,440
hero because the show was in San Antonio. If The

4032
03:31:54,520 --> 03:31:59,319
Road Rumble ninety seven was in fucking Indianapolis, I'm sure

4033
03:31:59,360 --> 03:32:02,520
we wouldn't have felt so weird about this title win

4034
03:32:02,600 --> 03:32:05,440
for Shawn Michaels. But he was making adjustments he felt

4035
03:32:05,479 --> 03:32:07,559
he had to make after Survivor series, all while heading

4036
03:32:07,600 --> 03:32:09,120
into a show where he had to be the Shawn

4037
03:32:09,159 --> 03:32:12,079
Michaels he was before those adjustments, and when he wins

4038
03:32:12,120 --> 03:32:13,600
the belt, it is kind of like, okay, where are

4039
03:32:13,600 --> 03:32:16,319
we going now? Like am I supposed to feel like

4040
03:32:16,399 --> 03:32:18,239
Sid is never going to get him? Try to get

4041
03:32:18,239 --> 03:32:18,799
the belt back?

4042
03:32:19,360 --> 03:32:19,520
Speaker 16: You know?

4043
03:32:19,719 --> 03:32:19,879
Speaker 5: Sid?

4044
03:32:20,040 --> 03:32:23,520
Speaker 14: Just now an afterthought? Yeah, the matter was okay. He

4045
03:32:23,600 --> 03:32:25,840
was one of Sid's better ones, But again it falls

4046
03:32:25,879 --> 03:32:27,840
into that category. Even if you can think of big

4047
03:32:28,159 --> 03:32:31,360
studio stadium shows that Sid was on, it's like what

4048
03:32:31,600 --> 03:32:32,000
came of it?

4049
03:32:32,719 --> 03:32:33,000
Speaker 5: You know what?

4050
03:32:33,879 --> 03:32:33,920
Speaker 15: What?

4051
03:32:34,399 --> 03:32:36,840
Speaker 14: What's the legacy? Do people look back on that show

4052
03:32:36,879 --> 03:32:39,559
and say, my god, did Sid rise to that occasion? No,

4053
03:32:39,719 --> 03:32:43,040
it was just like he was window dressing almost in.

4054
03:32:43,079 --> 03:32:45,239
Speaker 5: A weird way. Though it does make me wonder, like

4055
03:32:45,319 --> 03:32:47,639
what the fucking I mean, granted they didn't know where

4056
03:32:47,639 --> 03:32:50,639
they were going, you know, there was so much change

4057
03:32:50,719 --> 03:32:52,200
going on, but part of me is like, I wish

4058
03:32:52,239 --> 03:32:57,319
they'd just let it, you know, let let Sid just

4059
03:32:57,399 --> 03:32:59,399
stay champion. I wonder what that have happened. I mean,

4060
03:32:59,680 --> 03:33:01,239
there were have been a lot of stuff that would

4061
03:33:01,319 --> 03:33:07,680
not have happened that were crucial right in regards to

4062
03:33:09,360 --> 03:33:11,920
really the future of the company. You know, like you

4063
03:33:11,920 --> 03:33:16,120
wouldn't have had the Brett Hart Sid moment that we're

4064
03:33:16,360 --> 03:33:18,440
highlighting here, yea, And.

4065
03:33:18,479 --> 03:33:19,799
Speaker 14: It's it is it turned out to a great moment,

4066
03:33:19,840 --> 03:33:21,319
but really what it is, it's like if you're going

4067
03:33:21,399 --> 03:33:24,000
to pick a show that that that fits a SID

4068
03:33:24,079 --> 03:33:26,440
tribute and you'd already done Survivors series ninety six, this

4069
03:33:26,600 --> 03:33:29,079
is his other title, Wind makes sense right.

4070
03:33:29,280 --> 03:33:38,479
Speaker 5: Right, But what I mean, it's it's like it's just

4071
03:33:40,399 --> 03:33:42,600
what I'm saying though, is is it's like, it's it's

4072
03:33:42,680 --> 03:33:46,600
just a you could I would have liked to have actually,

4073
03:33:46,680 --> 03:33:48,639
you know, given how it all played out and given

4074
03:33:49,399 --> 03:33:51,879
how weak it was that Shawn Michaels kind of wanted back.

4075
03:33:52,120 --> 03:33:54,000
It makes me think when I would have liked to

4076
03:33:54,120 --> 03:33:56,200
I wonder what it would have been like for Sid

4077
03:33:56,280 --> 03:34:00,840
to go from Survivor Series to WrestleManias Champion, but so

4078
03:34:01,040 --> 03:34:04,440
much would have been lost in that. I think we

4079
03:34:04,520 --> 03:34:06,159
already got a little flavor of what would have happened.

4080
03:34:06,200 --> 03:34:08,120
He would have just yeah, I mean, it would have sucked.

4081
03:34:08,159 --> 03:34:09,719
It would have sucked. I don't think he would have

4082
03:34:09,760 --> 03:34:12,879
gotten more exciting. I think, I mean, in a weird way,

4083
03:34:12,959 --> 03:34:16,760
it's like, why the fuck did he you know, like

4084
03:34:17,719 --> 03:34:20,239
why even give him the championship? Like why, I mean,

4085
03:34:20,280 --> 03:34:22,120
I know that Sean Miami. I guess it's like it's

4086
03:34:22,120 --> 03:34:25,239
a weird one of those things where you never really

4087
03:34:28,280 --> 03:34:34,200
you know, Sean wasn't doing great and you need to

4088
03:34:34,200 --> 03:34:36,000
get the belt off and to kind of, you know,

4089
03:34:36,159 --> 03:34:37,479
let him be refreshed.

4090
03:34:37,559 --> 03:34:39,600
Speaker 14: But I think they really got the belt off him

4091
03:34:39,600 --> 03:34:41,920
because they wanted him to win the belt in San Antonio,

4092
03:34:42,040 --> 03:34:44,239
and it was like, yeah, whoever he crossed paths with

4093
03:34:44,280 --> 03:34:46,000
the Survivor Series was probably going to take it off

4094
03:34:46,040 --> 03:34:48,079
of him. That's what's always been my impression.

4095
03:34:48,600 --> 03:34:50,760
Speaker 5: It's just like, but why, Like it just seems I mean,

4096
03:34:50,760 --> 03:34:53,360
I guess winning it back is a big deal, but

4097
03:34:53,879 --> 03:34:55,559
I don't know, it just seems weird.

4098
03:34:55,639 --> 03:34:57,680
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah it didn't. They didn't account before in that

4099
03:34:57,799 --> 03:35:00,000
planning that the person who beat Sean at Survivors Series

4100
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:02,239
he would end up capturing the narrative, you know, and

4101
03:35:02,360 --> 03:35:05,000
being the talking point. It was a bigger deal that

4102
03:35:05,040 --> 03:35:07,000
Sid won the belt than Sean lost the belt, and

4103
03:35:07,079 --> 03:35:09,200
I don't think they count counted on that at all.

4104
03:35:10,239 --> 03:35:11,280
Speaker 5: It'd be like Hulk.

4105
03:35:11,159 --> 03:35:12,719
Speaker 14: Losing the belt to Warrior. Yeah, it was a big

4106
03:35:12,760 --> 03:35:14,559
deal Warrior won the belt, but it was clearly a

4107
03:35:14,639 --> 03:35:17,879
bigger deal that Hogan lost the belt, especially in retrospect.

4108
03:35:17,959 --> 03:35:21,840
This was not the case for Survivor Series. So during

4109
03:35:21,879 --> 03:35:23,719
the course of the match, in the Almo dumb Sean

4110
03:35:23,959 --> 03:35:25,799
hits Sid with a camera, a television camera to get

4111
03:35:25,840 --> 03:35:27,920
revenge on that front and hit some of the chin music,

4112
03:35:28,120 --> 03:35:29,639
and you know, they do the whole thing. The kid

4113
03:35:29,799 --> 03:35:32,000
came home and he won the WBF title with mom

4114
03:35:32,040 --> 03:35:33,680
and dad in the front row, et cetera. The next

4115
03:35:33,760 --> 03:35:36,120
night on Raw, Brett's out complaining again because remember he

4116
03:35:36,120 --> 03:35:39,159
got screwed out of the Rumble match itself when Steve

4117
03:35:39,200 --> 03:35:40,760
Boston was kind of hiding out and threw him out

4118
03:35:40,760 --> 03:35:43,200
at the ends. So he's complaining about everything to Vince

4119
03:35:43,239 --> 03:35:45,760
McMahon at ringside and Sean about how Sean being on

4120
03:35:45,840 --> 03:35:47,719
commentary at its time when he had a title shot

4121
03:35:47,719 --> 03:35:50,639
against Sid was a problem and getting a chance at

4122
03:35:50,639 --> 03:35:52,719
the Brumble and he won, but then Stone cold screwed

4123
03:35:52,799 --> 03:35:55,079
him and the people were with him, and then he quits,

4124
03:35:55,159 --> 03:35:57,479
and he quits in Vince's face right here on Raw

4125
03:35:57,520 --> 03:36:00,239
the night after Royal Rumble, and Vince's you know, he's

4126
03:36:00,239 --> 03:36:02,840
out there as the company owner, not just the announcer man.

4127
03:36:03,280 --> 03:36:06,079
Speaker 5: I thought it was legit. Do you really remember this? Yeah, yep,

4128
03:36:06,239 --> 03:36:06,959
I thought it was legit.

4129
03:36:07,159 --> 03:36:07,360
Speaker 16: I was.

4130
03:36:07,680 --> 03:36:09,920
Speaker 5: And again, you know, I was so paranoid at this point,

4131
03:36:09,959 --> 03:36:13,600
Oh yeah, of WSW getting all these guys, and so

4132
03:36:13,840 --> 03:36:17,440
was Vince. I was like, right right, and it just freaked.

4133
03:36:17,200 --> 03:36:19,280
Speaker 14: Me as paranoid because he knew you as a lifelong

4134
03:36:19,399 --> 03:36:22,639
WWF fanly paranoid out there. And so he's looking nervous,

4135
03:36:22,719 --> 03:36:24,719
and Vince is like, Brett, don't do this, like under

4136
03:36:24,760 --> 03:36:27,399
his breath, as if like he's like shooting with the guy.

4137
03:36:27,840 --> 03:36:30,120
And then Gorilla non Soon, who is still WWF president,

4138
03:36:30,200 --> 03:36:31,959
makes the fatal four way man event for the February

4139
03:36:32,000 --> 03:36:34,719
pay per view, and Brett returns, he doesn't quit. He

4140
03:36:34,799 --> 03:36:36,559
comes back on that episode of Raw to attack Stone

4141
03:36:36,600 --> 03:36:38,159
Cold Steve Austin to hand him a little taste of

4142
03:36:38,200 --> 03:36:41,920
his own medicine blindside Attack, and then they this is

4143
03:36:41,920 --> 03:36:44,399
where they announced that coming up on this special Thursday,

4144
03:36:44,520 --> 03:36:47,680
Raw Thursday, it's going to be Shawn Michaels versus Sid

4145
03:36:47,799 --> 03:36:50,479
the rubber match for the WWF Championship. And to hear

4146
03:36:50,559 --> 03:36:52,600
Sid put it, as we heard in the shoot interview excerpt,

4147
03:36:52,680 --> 03:36:54,280
he was to win the belt back on Thursday Raw

4148
03:36:54,360 --> 03:36:58,479
Thursday from Seawn. And you have Sean saying you know what, Yes, Sid,

4149
03:36:58,879 --> 03:37:00,440
he gave me a shot after I lost to you.

4150
03:37:00,559 --> 03:37:02,239
It's only fair I give you a shot after I

4151
03:37:02,360 --> 03:37:05,680
beat you. And then suddenly Undertaker speaks up and he

4152
03:37:05,719 --> 03:37:07,600
starts saying it's time that that title goes to the

4153
03:37:07,680 --> 03:37:10,639
dark side, and he says I will now be the Hunter.

4154
03:37:11,360 --> 03:37:15,040
So I feel like the night after Royal Rumble, it's

4155
03:37:15,040 --> 03:37:17,799
now clear what WrestleMania thirteen is going to be. Yeah,

4156
03:37:17,879 --> 03:37:21,360
and this is even before Sean tweaks his knee. I

4157
03:37:21,399 --> 03:37:24,559
think they shifted from Shawn Brett for the title, SID

4158
03:37:24,719 --> 03:37:28,399
Undertaker non title to sid Taker title. Sean Brett non title.

4159
03:37:28,799 --> 03:37:31,319
That's what it seems like to me, because Steve Austin

4160
03:37:31,559 --> 03:37:34,319
is still not on track to wrestle Brett, even though

4161
03:37:34,319 --> 03:37:36,920
they're still beating the shit out of each other, He's

4162
03:37:37,000 --> 03:37:39,440
interacting with Bulldog in such a way that it becomes

4163
03:37:39,479 --> 03:37:41,680
clear that that's going to be the match. So here

4164
03:37:41,799 --> 03:37:44,680
is Sid's promo before that, faithful as it turned out.

4165
03:37:44,719 --> 03:37:48,040
Thursday Raw, Thursday broadcast. This is on February third, nineteen

4166
03:37:48,120 --> 03:37:51,520
ninety seven. And what's significant about this edition of Monday

4167
03:37:51,600 --> 03:37:54,200
Night Roboss. It is the first two hour Raw.

4168
03:37:55,200 --> 03:38:11,639
Speaker 1: Yes, give me the laps fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling

4169
03:38:11,760 --> 03:38:15,239
podcast that knows the boys need their candy. It's the

4170
03:38:15,399 --> 03:38:33,760
Lapsed Fan. He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack

4171
03:38:33,840 --> 03:38:36,079
and Carnacio and JP Sorrow.

4172
03:38:36,479 --> 03:38:39,479
Speaker 14: So again, Sid is in the crosshairs of all these

4173
03:38:39,559 --> 03:38:42,159
changes that they're making and all these adjustments that they're

4174
03:38:42,200 --> 03:38:45,200
making to their presentation, trying to catch up to w CW.

4175
03:38:45,360 --> 03:38:47,959
And here's what Sid said on that first two hour Raw.

4176
03:38:51,000 --> 03:38:54,159
Speaker 21: Psycho Sid, I'm gonna ask you a question about the

4177
03:38:54,360 --> 03:38:58,959
WWF canda before we do it. All started the Survivor series.

4178
03:39:00,079 --> 03:39:02,799
You walked into Madison Square Garden and you became.

4179
03:39:03,000 --> 03:39:05,760
Speaker 13: The World Wrestling Federation Champion. And then in less than

4180
03:39:05,840 --> 03:39:08,079
thirty days you went to West.

4181
03:39:07,920 --> 03:39:10,600
Speaker 21: Palm Beach, Florida, and you beat a legend and breadth

4182
03:39:10,680 --> 03:39:13,680
they hit man Heart, but it all ended for you

4183
03:39:14,680 --> 03:39:15,879
at the Royal Rumble.

4184
03:39:16,399 --> 03:39:19,520
Speaker 4: Fate is a funny game.

4185
03:39:20,479 --> 03:39:22,440
Speaker 21: So what I want to ask you right now in

4186
03:39:22,639 --> 03:39:26,280
your gut, in your gut, said, what do you feel?

4187
03:39:26,360 --> 03:39:28,319
Speaker 4: What do you really feel personally.

4188
03:39:28,440 --> 03:39:31,479
Speaker 21: About the WWF champion? Sean Michaels.

4189
03:39:37,159 --> 03:39:42,159
Speaker 3: See, I've heard Shot say it himself. The relationship then

4190
03:39:42,200 --> 03:39:45,239
that I have, it's a weird one.

4191
03:39:46,000 --> 03:39:47,120
Speaker 4: They can roller.

4192
03:39:46,920 --> 03:39:52,120
Speaker 11: Coaster up and down listally, physically and emotionally.

4193
03:39:52,959 --> 03:39:55,959
Speaker 3: You can say it's a friendship.

4194
03:39:56,440 --> 03:39:59,159
Speaker 30: Baby on the edge of madness.

4195
03:40:01,239 --> 03:40:01,879
Speaker 3: We'll say that.

4196
03:40:02,079 --> 03:40:05,440
Speaker 11: I feel safe to say that. Even Shine Michaels will

4197
03:40:05,520 --> 03:40:13,879
agree that evil is just that it is evil.

4198
03:40:14,840 --> 03:40:18,159
Speaker 3: That's sometimes we mistaken it for happiness.

4199
03:40:19,479 --> 03:40:20,879
Speaker 30: Maybe in my case.

4200
03:40:22,479 --> 03:40:27,280
Speaker 5: Evil showed up its survivor serious.

4201
03:40:29,520 --> 03:40:34,000
Speaker 39: In the your case, Shine Michaels, maybe evil showed up

4202
03:40:34,879 --> 03:40:36,000
at the roll Rumble.

4203
03:40:38,000 --> 03:40:41,840
Speaker 3: But when this roller coast, the ride is overshone.

4204
03:40:42,639 --> 03:40:44,959
Speaker 16: When it is over, it has time up and that

4205
03:40:45,079 --> 03:40:48,520
has come down and the rod comes to a halt.

4206
03:40:50,239 --> 03:40:51,399
Speaker 2: In the smoke.

4207
03:40:51,200 --> 03:40:58,520
Speaker 3: Clears, I won't be standing the man. I won't be

4208
03:40:58,639 --> 03:40:59,680
standing a man.

4209
03:41:01,120 --> 03:41:02,280
Speaker 2: In the Master.

4210
03:41:03,520 --> 03:41:17,760
Speaker 4: In the rule. Oh my goodness on Royal.

4211
03:41:18,520 --> 03:41:20,959
Speaker 8: In twenty seconds, ladies and gentlemen, we will speak with

4212
03:41:21,040 --> 03:41:23,159
the tag team champions Bullog again.

4213
03:41:23,319 --> 03:41:28,440
Speaker 14: Oh so that's the last promo he does before Thursday,

4214
03:41:28,520 --> 03:41:32,120
Raw Thursday. And you would think that, you know, it's

4215
03:41:32,120 --> 03:41:34,440
always a question to me, like when was it clear

4216
03:41:34,559 --> 03:41:37,000
that this was off the rails? When was it clear

4217
03:41:37,079 --> 03:41:39,159
that it wasn't to be Sean versus Sin on the show,

4218
03:41:39,200 --> 03:41:42,040
and that Sean fact only wouldn't wrestle on Thursday, Raw Thursday,

4219
03:41:42,040 --> 03:41:45,200
but relinquish the title well as of the Superstars in

4220
03:41:45,239 --> 03:41:45,719
the morning of.

4221
03:41:45,840 --> 03:41:46,680
Speaker 5: And this is not live.

4222
03:41:46,799 --> 03:41:49,280
Speaker 14: This is in the can so you can't read too

4223
03:41:49,360 --> 03:41:51,000
much into it. But they didn't take the time to

4224
03:41:51,159 --> 03:41:54,000
edit it out, which says, I guess something in its

4225
03:41:54,040 --> 03:42:00,000
own way. Shawn Michaels is on Superstars the week before Thursday,

4226
03:42:00,000 --> 03:42:04,239
a Raw Thursday, and has this to say about Sid

4227
03:42:04,440 --> 03:42:06,719
and Man. Everything just seems on the rails this.

4228
03:42:07,000 --> 03:42:13,040
Speaker 37: Thursday Live at Thursday Raw Thursday, you are gonna have

4229
03:42:13,200 --> 03:42:17,639
an awesome challenge when you defend your World Wrestling Federation

4230
03:42:17,959 --> 03:42:22,639
title against the man you wanted from Psycho Sid.

4231
03:42:24,319 --> 03:42:27,639
Speaker 4: Well, you know something, Psycho sid.

4232
03:42:29,200 --> 03:42:34,120
Speaker 16: Was man enough to give Seawn Michaels a rematch after

4233
03:42:34,280 --> 03:42:35,360
Survivor Series.

4234
03:42:35,920 --> 03:42:38,479
Speaker 4: So Sid, I'm gonna.

4235
03:42:38,239 --> 03:42:41,920
Speaker 2: Turn around and do you the same favor you did.

4236
03:42:41,959 --> 03:42:47,360
Speaker 16: Me, because Sid, there are four other guys here in

4237
03:42:47,479 --> 03:42:52,559
the World Wrestling Federation that are just aching to get

4238
03:42:52,639 --> 03:42:59,760
a shot at this belt. The World Wrestling Federation Championship

4239
03:43:00,159 --> 03:43:05,440
as of late, has brought out the Monster and all

4240
03:43:05,559 --> 03:43:12,959
the superstars of the World Wrestling Federation were show and

4241
03:43:13,120 --> 03:43:19,520
he's ever been. It's made Stone Cold, much colder than

4242
03:43:19,559 --> 03:43:25,760
he ever thought he could have been. It's named Vader, Well,

4243
03:43:26,280 --> 03:43:30,879
it's Nde Vader Vader and now the man from the

4244
03:43:31,040 --> 03:43:35,440
Dark Side feels like he has gotten the shaft one

4245
03:43:35,600 --> 03:43:39,399
too many times, and the Undertaker now wants a shot

4246
03:43:39,840 --> 03:43:44,239
at the World Wrestling Fedation Championship. And then, of course

4247
03:43:45,079 --> 03:43:48,760
there is a hit man, Brett Hart, who, even though

4248
03:43:49,520 --> 03:43:54,040
he quits on lot of TV, complains online TV, makes

4249
03:43:54,159 --> 03:43:58,040
excuses on TV, does not want to be referred to

4250
03:43:58,719 --> 03:43:59,920
as any of those things.

4251
03:44:00,399 --> 03:44:04,040
Speaker 4: So I won't do it. But regardless of what Prett.

4252
03:44:03,959 --> 03:44:07,399
Speaker 16: Says he wants to be the World Wrestling Federation Champion

4253
03:44:07,799 --> 03:44:13,600
more than anything. I said, the question is who will

4254
03:44:13,680 --> 03:44:16,760
go to WrestleMania to defend that title.

4255
03:44:17,399 --> 03:44:20,319
Speaker 6: Will it be you or will it be me?

4256
03:44:22,760 --> 03:44:24,680
Speaker 3: And on Thursday, Rob.

4257
03:44:24,799 --> 03:44:30,799
Speaker 16: Thursday said, the entire world on WA thirteen is gonna

4258
03:44:30,879 --> 03:44:34,920
find out who the man is in the World Wrestling

4259
03:44:35,000 --> 03:44:39,559
Federation and who the man is that will go to WrestleMania.

4260
03:44:41,239 --> 03:44:44,719
And I want sid, I want the fans to the

4261
03:44:44,799 --> 03:44:50,120
World Wrestling Federation, and I want those four superstars, and

4262
03:44:50,280 --> 03:44:54,639
I want the entire world to know that there's been

4263
03:44:54,879 --> 03:45:01,959
one thing synonymous with WrestleMania and the ma I WrestleMania

4264
03:45:02,440 --> 03:45:03,559
over the last.

4265
03:45:03,360 --> 03:45:07,360
Speaker 30: Few years, and it's called not So the year.

4266
03:45:07,440 --> 03:45:14,440
Speaker 16: Candidate Heartbreak Kid Sewn michaels So said Cresh just short

4267
03:45:14,920 --> 03:45:21,079
on Thursday, Wrong Thursday, you will get another chance at

4268
03:45:21,159 --> 03:45:28,120
the World Wrestling Federation Championship. Shawn Michael's the Heartbreak Kid

4269
03:45:29,079 --> 03:45:38,040
will be until he deems differently the World Wrestling Federation Champion.

4270
03:45:38,479 --> 03:45:44,719
Speaker 14: Yeah, until he deems differently. Indeed, I would love to

4271
03:45:44,799 --> 03:45:47,000
know what the finish was originally supposed to be between

4272
03:45:47,040 --> 03:45:51,280
Shawn and said on this show, sitting here realizing I

4273
03:45:51,360 --> 03:45:54,280
don't know that. I know Sid was supposed to win

4274
03:45:54,360 --> 03:45:56,959
it back, according to Sid, But how was Brett to

4275
03:45:57,000 --> 03:45:58,879
interfere with Sean just going to go in there and

4276
03:45:58,959 --> 03:46:00,360
lose it clean? I said, how doubt it?

4277
03:46:00,719 --> 03:46:03,040
Speaker 5: Sid was going to win it back anyway, That's what

4278
03:46:03,120 --> 03:46:06,120
Sid said. It's very fucking It's very strange.

4279
03:46:07,120 --> 03:46:07,319
Speaker 6: Yeah.

4280
03:46:07,479 --> 03:46:09,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's almost like Sean agreed to it knowing it

4281
03:46:09,760 --> 03:46:12,879
wouldn't ever ever get there. Yeah, it seems kind of bogus.

4282
03:46:13,440 --> 03:46:15,600
Speaker 14: But you know, all of that promo work they did,

4283
03:46:15,680 --> 03:46:17,559
and the first thing you see when you tune into

4284
03:46:17,600 --> 03:46:19,840
that Thursday Raw Thursday is Shawn is going to forfeit

4285
03:46:19,879 --> 03:46:22,840
the belt. They make the announcement, It's like what and

4286
03:46:22,959 --> 03:46:25,239
he comes out and he starts talking about, Yeah.

4287
03:46:25,120 --> 03:46:27,000
Speaker 5: What did you think when that happened? I was because

4288
03:46:27,040 --> 03:46:28,479
like I didn't again, I didn't know.

4289
03:46:28,840 --> 03:46:30,399
Speaker 14: I mean, I was willing to believe that he had

4290
03:46:30,440 --> 03:46:32,959
a knee injury, you know, I was willing to believe

4291
03:46:33,000 --> 03:46:34,959
that just because he was so hard felt in the promo.

4292
03:46:35,040 --> 03:46:37,000
It was like, yeah, this guy does not want to

4293
03:46:37,040 --> 03:46:38,959
relinquish the belt right now. This is the worst possible

4294
03:46:39,000 --> 03:46:40,639
time for an injury. Like this and that does happen,

4295
03:46:41,399 --> 03:46:43,799
and he was limping like hell. It was only in

4296
03:46:43,879 --> 03:46:47,719
retrospect that you had the cynicism because he never got surgery,

4297
03:46:47,879 --> 03:46:50,680
although he's a serious surgery. And then when he comes back,

4298
03:46:50,840 --> 03:46:53,719
like in June, he's backflipping all over the place. I

4299
03:46:53,840 --> 03:46:56,719
remember remember that that raw where he wins tag titles

4300
03:46:56,760 --> 03:46:58,639
with with Stone Cold. He comes back, has like a

4301
03:46:58,719 --> 03:47:01,680
five star magic and Stone and he's like doing all

4302
03:47:01,719 --> 03:47:03,639
these things to almost rub it in people's face that

4303
03:47:03,719 --> 03:47:05,360
his knee was never really hurt.

4304
03:47:05,440 --> 03:47:08,680
Speaker 5: That was always my impression of it. Maybe, but it's

4305
03:47:08,760 --> 03:47:11,639
just so weird, like I can imagine it's just a

4306
03:47:11,719 --> 03:47:13,799
shocking thing that all of a sudden, Yeah, it seemed

4307
03:47:13,840 --> 03:47:17,600
really sad. I bought into it for sure, because I

4308
03:47:17,760 --> 03:47:20,440
just everything happen, like I said, everything happened to me,

4309
03:47:20,520 --> 03:47:24,479
and such a such a a a it was such

4310
03:47:24,479 --> 03:47:28,120
a big so much happened in so little time that

4311
03:47:28,200 --> 03:47:31,239
I didn't really have a chance to process what it

4312
03:47:31,440 --> 03:47:35,719
was like to experience that, like Sean Michael's just relinquishing

4313
03:47:35,760 --> 03:47:36,600
the bell out of nowhere.

4314
03:47:36,879 --> 03:47:39,840
Speaker 14: It definitely it didn't I don't remember. And I was

4315
03:47:39,879 --> 03:47:42,559
somewhat plugged into like online gossip about wrestling at that time,

4316
03:47:43,559 --> 03:47:45,200
but it didn't really register with me as all, this

4317
03:47:45,239 --> 03:47:47,879
guy doesn't want to drop the strap. It didn't because

4318
03:47:47,879 --> 03:47:50,200
I didn't really have the context of knowing that they

4319
03:47:50,239 --> 03:47:52,000
were going to go with Shawn and bretton the rematch

4320
03:47:52,040 --> 03:47:55,159
at WrestleMania. It hadn't been made as apparent as I

4321
03:47:55,200 --> 03:47:58,639
think people thought without reading the sheets, so it was like, Okay,

4322
03:48:00,079 --> 03:48:03,239
this is this is a horrible turn of events. I

4323
03:48:03,319 --> 03:48:07,440
don't even remember really going into that Thursday Raw Thursday

4324
03:48:08,799 --> 03:48:10,959
having it really sunk in that he was going to

4325
03:48:11,000 --> 03:48:13,559
defend the belt against sid on the show. Yeah, I

4326
03:48:13,639 --> 03:48:15,639
remember even feeling like that was a key feature of it,

4327
03:48:16,879 --> 03:48:18,639
but it was because they wanted to draw rating on

4328
03:48:18,680 --> 03:48:20,319
an off night, and putting a title match of that

4329
03:48:20,440 --> 03:48:22,879
caliber on there would probably be the best they could

4330
03:48:22,920 --> 03:48:25,719
do to get that. And for sure he comes out,

4331
03:48:25,799 --> 03:48:28,360
he starts talking about being told he can't wrestle again maybe,

4332
03:48:28,879 --> 03:48:31,399
and they're chanting, we want sid in Lowell. They're jenning

4333
03:48:31,440 --> 03:48:35,120
we want sid at the guy Jesus, And this is

4334
03:48:35,159 --> 03:48:37,600
where a Grilla Monsoon announces that the final four winner

4335
03:48:37,600 --> 03:48:39,680
at the pay per view will be ww champion. As

4336
03:48:39,719 --> 03:48:42,479
a matter of fact, and what does this leave Sid?

4337
03:48:42,559 --> 03:48:45,680
They ask, He'll get his chance Monday in Nashville, as

4338
03:48:45,719 --> 03:48:48,120
they announced that Sid, in fact, we'll be wrestling the

4339
03:48:48,159 --> 03:48:50,719
winner of the final four match for the championship on

4340
03:48:50,799 --> 03:48:55,440
the February seventeenth raw. As for the third mass, absolutely so.

4341
03:48:55,559 --> 03:48:57,520
Sean does the whole heartfelt speech, leaves the belt in

4342
03:48:57,559 --> 03:48:59,440
the ring with Vince and says I'm going to go

4343
03:48:59,479 --> 03:49:02,000
home now. And somewhere along the way, I lost my

4344
03:49:02,120 --> 03:49:04,399
smile with the stubble and the tears and he looks

4345
03:49:04,440 --> 03:49:07,079
like he hasn't slept and all that, and the main

4346
03:49:07,079 --> 03:49:09,239
event of Thursday rought Thursday's mentioned with Stone Cold Steve

4347
03:49:09,280 --> 03:49:12,159
Austin versus Sid, and Austin is rabid and they're chanting

4348
03:49:12,239 --> 03:49:14,399
for Austin. You want some of the earliest kind of

4349
03:49:15,200 --> 03:49:18,159
green shoots. Yeah, I'm sure the fans too are kind

4350
03:49:18,200 --> 03:49:20,559
of like throwing up their hands like fuck, Like we

4351
03:49:20,600 --> 03:49:22,399
were supposed to invest in Sean, We're supposed to invest

4352
03:49:22,399 --> 03:49:25,840
in Sid. Look what's going on here? Austin's consistent. You know,

4353
03:49:26,040 --> 03:49:28,479
Austin keeps showing up, kicking ass. Austin keeps showing up

4354
03:49:28,479 --> 03:49:31,399
to an awesome shit on television. Well, we're with this guy.

4355
03:49:31,600 --> 03:49:34,120
You know, if we don't know who to get behind,

4356
03:49:34,159 --> 03:49:37,399
because shit is so impermanent, let's go with him. So

4357
03:49:37,520 --> 03:49:39,239
he's out there, they're chanting for him, and Brett hits

4358
03:49:39,239 --> 03:49:41,680
the ring and attacks Austin. And now it's very clear,

4359
03:49:41,760 --> 03:49:44,200
I think, on the night where they have to grapple

4360
03:49:44,280 --> 03:49:46,000
with the fact that Sean is going to relinquish the

4361
03:49:46,040 --> 03:49:49,000
belt and not wrestle at WrestleMania at all, it seems

4362
03:49:49,040 --> 03:49:51,319
like they immediately kick it into a higher gear between

4363
03:49:51,399 --> 03:49:54,399
Brett and Steve Austin, and the decision is clearly now made,

4364
03:49:54,399 --> 03:49:56,840
at least in my mind, that that's going to be

4365
03:49:56,920 --> 03:50:00,680
a feature traction match at WrestleMania. Yeah, Breton Sid also

4366
03:50:00,760 --> 03:50:02,440
tussle a bit because you got to keep the heat

4367
03:50:02,479 --> 03:50:04,799
between those two because you know, the night after Final

4368
03:50:04,840 --> 03:50:06,760
four it's going to be Breton Sid for the championship.

4369
03:50:07,040 --> 03:50:08,639
So the Final four pay per view comes and we

4370
03:50:08,879 --> 03:50:10,360
of course have done it in the archives. Is part

4371
03:50:10,399 --> 03:50:12,920
of the nineteen ninety seven journey, and Sid was in

4372
03:50:13,000 --> 03:50:14,920
fact on hand, even though he didn't wrestle on the show,

4373
03:50:15,280 --> 03:50:17,760
but as telegraph there it's been told to the fans

4374
03:50:17,760 --> 03:50:19,840
and everybody that Sid's going to face the winner. And

4375
03:50:19,920 --> 03:50:22,319
here's some remarks Sid himself had to make at Final

4376
03:50:22,399 --> 03:50:23,440
four in your house.

4377
03:50:24,840 --> 03:50:27,239
Speaker 42: Stee Boston, the undertaker of the man they call Vader,

4378
03:50:27,680 --> 03:50:30,000
whoever wins, knows that tomorrow night they have to go

4379
03:50:30,159 --> 03:50:32,879
right in and on Monday night, Raw face this man.

4380
03:50:33,200 --> 03:50:35,520
He looks like he's ready to go right now, Psycho

4381
03:50:35,639 --> 03:50:37,760
Sid a little bit more than twenty four hours away.

4382
03:50:37,799 --> 03:50:38,840
Speaker 4: That's not too much time.

4383
03:50:39,000 --> 03:50:39,280
Speaker 21: Time.

4384
03:50:40,159 --> 03:50:41,920
Speaker 3: Time is the one I did not want to air.

4385
03:50:42,520 --> 03:50:44,959
See time way out for you, Seawn Michaels.

4386
03:50:45,280 --> 03:50:47,920
Speaker 11: And yes I am sad for you, but I did

4387
03:50:47,959 --> 03:50:51,120
not get my SAIDs they get my belt back on

4388
03:50:51,360 --> 03:50:52,079
Thursday nights.

4389
03:50:52,680 --> 03:50:55,200
Speaker 3: You see time, Sometimes it turns out to be funny.

4390
03:50:55,520 --> 03:50:58,719
Speaker 11: This time it's a regular old it's something different.

4391
03:50:59,000 --> 03:51:01,120
Speaker 30: So my time will come. Want to beginning?

4392
03:51:01,120 --> 03:51:03,120
Speaker 3: You ot a new time for Monday night.

4393
03:51:03,239 --> 03:51:05,079
Speaker 2: Row excuse me what.

4394
03:51:07,520 --> 03:51:10,440
Speaker 7: He'll be paid by the winner of the Final four?

4395
03:51:10,879 --> 03:51:13,760
Speaker 43: You have to make demand? Yeah, and then it is time.

4396
03:51:15,799 --> 03:51:19,719
It is time to give me back what is mine?

4397
03:51:23,760 --> 03:51:26,079
I am a master in the.

4398
03:51:31,399 --> 03:51:34,920
Speaker 5: New time he's referring to. Is they move Raw back? Yeah?

4399
03:51:35,000 --> 03:51:38,879
I guess. But what the fuck man like he's he

4400
03:51:39,280 --> 03:51:40,559
he just I don't.

4401
03:51:43,680 --> 03:51:43,719
Speaker 15: I.

4402
03:51:44,120 --> 03:51:48,440
Speaker 5: I mean, he definitely sounds psycholo.

4403
03:51:47,920 --> 03:51:50,239
Speaker 14: That now, But when he comes to that line again,

4404
03:51:50,280 --> 03:51:52,280
it's like, oh my god, he's that's all he's got.

4405
03:51:52,520 --> 03:51:53,319
He's doing the Master and.

4406
03:51:55,280 --> 03:51:58,280
Speaker 5: He just doesn't know how to fucking say a cohesive sentence.

4407
03:51:58,360 --> 03:51:58,559
Speaker 16: That was.

4408
03:51:58,719 --> 03:52:01,079
Speaker 14: That was one of the worst ones, as it was

4409
03:52:01,120 --> 03:52:03,559
clear that he got direction to try to draw attention

4410
03:52:03,639 --> 03:52:05,639
to the fact that ra'z going to move to nine

4411
03:52:05,639 --> 03:52:07,040
to eleven if he had to head for two hours

4412
03:52:07,079 --> 03:52:09,760
with Nitro instead of seeding that ten to eleven to them.

4413
03:52:10,520 --> 03:52:14,920
But so bizarre Brett Win's the fatal four way clotheslining

4414
03:52:15,239 --> 03:52:17,319
Undertaker out or was it Austin I don't remember.

4415
03:52:17,120 --> 03:52:20,159
Speaker 5: Now it was Undertake here. Austin was out early. It

4416
03:52:20,200 --> 03:52:21,479
did a match where he was the first. He was

4417
03:52:21,520 --> 03:52:22,799
the first one out, first one out right.

4418
03:52:22,840 --> 03:52:25,079
Speaker 14: It was elimination style and over the top to the

4419
03:52:25,120 --> 03:52:27,200
floor counted like a rumble for god knows what reason.

4420
03:52:27,799 --> 03:52:30,399
Speaker 5: Well, remember it wasn't just elimination style. It had a

4421
03:52:30,479 --> 03:52:31,040
number of things.

4422
03:52:31,079 --> 03:52:31,239
Speaker 16: It was.

4423
03:52:31,520 --> 03:52:34,399
Speaker 5: It was you could either win by tossing somebody over

4424
03:52:34,440 --> 03:52:38,600
the top or pin or make them submit, and nobody

4425
03:52:38,680 --> 03:52:41,520
did the pinner submit. It was just over the top rope.

4426
03:52:41,559 --> 03:52:45,559
It was such a weird like it was very reminiscent

4427
03:52:45,639 --> 03:52:48,799
of those of the of the Rumbles of No Mercy. Yes,

4428
03:52:49,879 --> 03:52:53,719
you know where you could have the different the winning

4429
03:52:54,799 --> 03:52:59,239
you know, or elimination combinations, but they never did any

4430
03:52:59,239 --> 03:53:04,639
of them except for over the top rope, Yeah, which

4431
03:53:04,760 --> 03:53:05,639
I just don't understand.

4432
03:53:05,639 --> 03:53:07,879
Speaker 14: That's if they re ran the Royal Rumble almost with

4433
03:53:08,000 --> 03:53:11,440
just four guys. And so, of course Brett wins the

4434
03:53:11,520 --> 03:53:14,600
championship here on the show, and Sid comes out at

4435
03:53:14,639 --> 03:53:17,159
the end to confront him, setting up Nashville the next

4436
03:53:17,280 --> 03:53:20,440
night Live on Monday Night Raw, February seventeenth, nineteen ninety seven.

4437
03:53:20,719 --> 03:53:23,000
That'll be the subject of our deep dive here next time.

4438
03:53:23,559 --> 03:53:26,440
And with that on the horizon, we're just going to

4439
03:53:26,639 --> 03:53:29,159
quickly tie it up with a bow. What happens after

4440
03:53:30,280 --> 03:53:33,719
that Raw as regards Sid and what becomes of the

4441
03:53:33,920 --> 03:53:36,079
WWF title reign that begins the second one. The night

4442
03:53:36,159 --> 03:53:40,559
after Final four, they go out to Berlin. This is

4443
03:53:40,600 --> 03:53:42,920
the last edition of Raw that's not called Raw is War,

4444
03:53:43,200 --> 03:53:45,600
and they tape television out there, including the European Tournament

4445
03:53:45,639 --> 03:53:48,200
final where Davey Burl wins the belt from Owen to

4446
03:53:48,200 --> 03:53:50,280
become the first European champion, and also on that show

4447
03:53:50,319 --> 03:53:55,520
in Berlin, Sid as champion versus Mankind. That's pretty much

4448
03:53:55,559 --> 03:53:57,920
the only time I think Sid worked mcfoley on television

4449
03:53:57,959 --> 03:54:01,600
as champion. You're right, and here's what he has to say.

4450
03:54:02,120 --> 03:54:04,639
I'm pretty much like, I don't know. It kind of

4451
03:54:04,680 --> 03:54:06,719
feels like the only Raw where he was championed again

4452
03:54:06,840 --> 03:54:08,879
before losing it, Undertaker, it really wasn't. But here's what

4453
03:54:08,959 --> 03:54:11,120
he has to say on that on that Berlin edition

4454
03:54:11,159 --> 03:54:13,040
of Raw before Raw well becomes War.

4455
03:54:14,760 --> 03:54:17,000
Speaker 4: Any other surprises you think man Kind's going offer.

4456
03:54:17,360 --> 03:54:20,680
Speaker 11: Listen to me, Mankind, I can hear you lost up.

4457
03:54:20,799 --> 03:54:22,239
Speaker 19: All your German language.

4458
03:54:23,479 --> 03:54:26,399
Speaker 7: But what you should have done, you should have gotten

4459
03:54:26,479 --> 03:54:27,639
ready for the game.

4460
03:54:28,120 --> 03:54:31,680
Speaker 3: Because the game we play is simple to manor.

4461
03:54:34,600 --> 03:54:34,879
Speaker 7: Playing.

4462
03:54:35,159 --> 03:54:37,479
Speaker 16: I am the master, and you have to find out

4463
03:54:37,680 --> 03:54:42,120
the hard way, because then you come another symbol.

4464
03:54:42,000 --> 03:54:45,319
Speaker 26: Of one of my many victories to WrestleMania.

4465
03:54:45,079 --> 03:54:49,079
Speaker 7: Do you, Undertaker, to the dark side, to the drug side?

4466
03:54:49,120 --> 03:54:54,639
I go, and you what would come? Another police side

4467
03:54:55,440 --> 03:54:59,399
of my victories? Because I am a man, I am

4468
03:54:59,479 --> 03:55:05,040
the master. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

4469
03:55:05,280 --> 03:55:07,959
Speaker 13: To take it vers of Psycho sit So many but man.

4470
03:55:07,879 --> 03:55:10,680
Speaker 5: God, last time we'd hear that raw music right there,

4471
03:55:11,520 --> 03:55:12,959
that's trus track. That's true.

4472
03:55:13,000 --> 03:55:15,280
Speaker 14: And Vince Call, said one of the great WWF champions,

4473
03:55:15,319 --> 03:55:17,000
on his walk to the ring to face mankind on

4474
03:55:17,079 --> 03:55:19,520
this edition of Monday Night Raw. The next week, Raw

4475
03:55:19,639 --> 03:55:22,440
is indeed War. They set up a new stage with

4476
03:55:22,600 --> 03:55:26,319
a graded kind of rampway and a huge ass Titan Tron.

4477
03:55:26,600 --> 03:55:28,600
They don't switch out the aprons though. The aprons are

4478
03:55:28,600 --> 03:55:32,120
still that original blue with the white stencil WWF logo

4479
03:55:32,239 --> 03:55:34,440
on it. Yeah, and they haven't transitioned yet to the

4480
03:55:34,479 --> 03:55:37,920
Attitude Scratch logo. There's still the yellow kid friendly logo

4481
03:55:38,000 --> 03:55:39,600
on the lower left. But the show is starting to

4482
03:55:39,639 --> 03:55:43,360
look a little more intense. And yes, you remember the

4483
03:55:43,399 --> 03:55:46,360
original Ra's War opening that they filmed with the explosions

4484
03:55:46,399 --> 03:55:47,559
inside that fact, Oh.

4485
03:55:47,520 --> 03:55:47,879
Speaker 17: I love it.

4486
03:55:48,000 --> 03:55:50,719
Speaker 5: And they fucking they're fighting on the roof of Titan Towers.

4487
03:55:50,760 --> 03:55:54,799
Speaker 14: The roof of Titan Towers was the ninety five one,

4488
03:55:55,000 --> 03:55:57,000
but I'm not sure this This was more like a factory.

4489
03:55:57,040 --> 03:55:59,079
It kind of it pans down into like.

4490
03:55:59,600 --> 03:56:01,639
Speaker 5: They did both. Let don't have that one in two. No,

4491
03:56:01,799 --> 03:56:04,639
I guess maybe you're a different one. But it's funny. Yeah,

4492
03:56:04,639 --> 03:56:07,719
I mean it's all like it's all fucking metal, uh,

4493
03:56:08,559 --> 03:56:13,239
you know, fucking steel cans exploding and shit and barrels, barrels.

4494
03:56:13,799 --> 03:56:16,280
Speaker 14: It's like the ones like les encampments would have fires

4495
03:56:16,280 --> 03:56:19,239
in and stuff. Right right, you have these huge doors

4496
03:56:19,280 --> 03:56:21,159
swing open, and Steve Austin is the choice for the

4497
03:56:21,159 --> 03:56:23,479
guy to walk through those doors, and he's one. He's

4498
03:56:23,520 --> 03:56:26,079
the one power walking as things explode and fire off.

4499
03:56:26,120 --> 03:56:29,559
And there's like scenes of these stars being projected under

4500
03:56:29,559 --> 03:56:31,639
the screen and barking dogs. And one of the things

4501
03:56:31,680 --> 03:56:33,000
they did was put a bunch of guys in a

4502
03:56:33,120 --> 03:56:35,440
ring with like fire everywhere and had them just brawl

4503
03:56:35,520 --> 03:56:38,559
it out like this generic brawl happening, and Sid was

4504
03:56:38,600 --> 03:56:40,520
in there with his leather vest, brawling with I think

4505
03:56:40,520 --> 03:56:42,719
Brett Hart, and it was funny. For years after Sid

4506
03:56:42,799 --> 03:56:45,200
left the WWF, he was still in that opening montage

4507
03:56:45,879 --> 03:56:48,719
because he was part of that brawling scene. And tonight

4508
03:56:48,799 --> 03:56:52,319
Ro's war on Peacock. Of course, the image of the

4509
03:56:52,399 --> 03:56:56,239
show is bloody Steve Austin for Mestlemania thirteen, before that

4510
03:56:56,360 --> 03:56:59,719
match had even happened in the chronology, So God bless

4511
03:56:59,760 --> 03:57:03,639
those folks over there. But but you know, it's that's

4512
03:57:03,680 --> 03:57:05,639
what Peacock's fault is. It is the fact that.

4513
03:57:07,239 --> 03:57:10,399
Speaker 5: You can't forget this. What was the original Raw is

4514
03:57:10,440 --> 03:57:14,319
War theme song? It wasn't. It wasn't too many guns

4515
03:57:14,399 --> 03:57:18,479
and not enough? What was it? I don't remember? What

4516
03:57:18,639 --> 03:57:26,959
was Beautiful People by Marilyn Manson? Wasn't really remember that?

4517
03:57:27,319 --> 03:57:30,159
Oh yeah, I do, I do, I do vaguely.

4518
03:57:30,520 --> 03:57:32,680
Speaker 14: Music that they had to pay for. And while it

4519
03:57:32,799 --> 03:57:34,639
probably felt like a smart investment to get this new

4520
03:57:34,719 --> 03:57:36,840
concept of Raw off the ground, pretty soon they stopped

4521
03:57:36,840 --> 03:57:38,840
paying for it and went to the Raw is War

4522
03:57:41,319 --> 03:57:42,959
that we would know for years and years and years

4523
03:57:43,000 --> 03:57:46,799
during the Attitude era. But the problem is would that

4524
03:57:48,319 --> 03:57:50,760
I think with that change over in the music, they

4525
03:57:50,840 --> 03:57:54,120
also had to swap out the opening montage for the

4526
03:57:54,200 --> 03:57:57,200
one that they created after they stopped using the Marilyn

4527
03:57:57,280 --> 03:58:01,000
Manson music. So you go to these Peacocks Archives episodes

4528
03:58:01,040 --> 03:58:03,799
before Steve Austin ever bleeds against Brett WrestleMania, and you

4529
03:58:03,920 --> 03:58:06,639
still see that freeze frame during the open of Raw

4530
03:58:06,799 --> 03:58:10,639
because they swapped it out on those Archives episodes.

4531
03:58:10,200 --> 03:58:10,760
Speaker 5: That happen.

4532
03:58:12,959 --> 03:58:14,840
Speaker 14: Looking at and like I said, who kicks off the

4533
03:58:14,879 --> 03:58:17,639
first ever raw is war sid said.

4534
03:58:18,920 --> 03:58:23,600
Speaker 21: Psycho said, I understand that you have had several meetings

4535
03:58:23,680 --> 03:58:27,440
with ww OF officials and that you are somewhat reluctant

4536
03:58:27,879 --> 03:58:30,959
to join Porza's tonight with the Undertaker.

4537
03:58:31,239 --> 03:58:37,959
Speaker 16: What's the story, Jim Ross, You and everybody included must

4538
03:58:38,000 --> 03:58:42,559
think of something kind of fool something. I'm gonna tell

4539
03:58:42,559 --> 03:58:44,600
you something, Undertaker.

4540
03:58:46,000 --> 03:58:50,639
Speaker 30: I know when pull bears around it was mankind of vader.

4541
03:58:52,239 --> 03:58:54,360
I smell something.

4542
03:58:54,559 --> 03:58:57,600
Speaker 5: Yes you do, see, yes you do.

4543
03:58:58,399 --> 03:58:59,319
Speaker 2: You'd be right in man.

4544
03:59:00,239 --> 03:59:03,479
Speaker 30: So what I'm gonna do is this I've thought of

4545
03:59:03,559 --> 03:59:10,639
that I am not gonna fall for your.

4546
03:59:10,719 --> 03:59:14,239
Speaker 16: Trap, Undertaker, because of WrestleMania.

4547
03:59:15,719 --> 03:59:18,280
Speaker 3: You will fall victim have.

4548
03:59:18,360 --> 03:59:22,639
Speaker 16: Become another symbol of one of my victories as the

4549
03:59:22,760 --> 03:59:33,040
World Wrestling Fairly said champions.

4550
03:59:29,360 --> 03:59:32,520
Speaker 4: Like said, refusing to join forces. That's the Undertaker.

4551
03:59:33,360 --> 03:59:38,479
Speaker 16: What you need to do tonight, Undertaker, and maybe even

4552
03:59:38,559 --> 03:59:41,920
for the rest of your career, is you stay in

4553
03:59:42,040 --> 03:59:47,879
the cemetery where you belong, because after WrestleMania.

4554
03:59:48,079 --> 03:59:51,760
Speaker 30: That's where I will put you once and for good.

4555
03:59:52,559 --> 03:59:55,000
Speaker 2: What about you? Oh, we are.

4556
03:59:54,959 --> 04:00:02,000
Speaker 5: Thirteen days away, once and for good, for good? What

4557
04:00:02,200 --> 04:00:05,120
the fuck is wrong with him? How does he just

4558
04:00:05,239 --> 04:00:10,639
get so stupid. How does he get so stupid and

4559
04:00:10,760 --> 04:00:13,639
yet be such a smart businessman? Apparently? Yeah.

4560
04:00:13,760 --> 04:00:15,879
Speaker 14: So later on the show, Taker and Sid do team up.

4561
04:00:15,879 --> 04:00:17,719
They end up fighting each other and there's choke slams,

4562
04:00:17,920 --> 04:00:19,239
and this is one of the first times you see

4563
04:00:19,280 --> 04:00:21,200
take Er do that huge dive where he clears the

4564
04:00:21,239 --> 04:00:24,799
top rope. He does that really because everyone comes out

4565
04:00:24,879 --> 04:00:27,239
right shake it up, and then Sid ends up power

4566
04:00:27,280 --> 04:00:30,120
bombing Undertaker. So the hype is on for that WrestleMania

4567
04:00:30,440 --> 04:00:32,959
main event on the March seventeenth, nineteen ninety seven Raw.

4568
04:00:33,079 --> 04:00:35,360
This is a historic one. This is Brett Hart versus

4569
04:00:35,399 --> 04:00:38,799
Sid in the cage for the WWF title, and they

4570
04:00:38,879 --> 04:00:40,280
go back and forth about whether the match will be

4571
04:00:40,360 --> 04:00:42,520
for the title that night. Guerrilla Monsoon finally decides yes,

4572
04:00:42,600 --> 04:00:45,280
it will be Bretdheart's new motto in the World Wresting Federation.

4573
04:00:45,399 --> 04:00:46,760
He says, you scratch my back.

4574
04:00:47,520 --> 04:00:52,239
Speaker 5: Well, what's the second half? Seems like there's a new

4575
04:00:52,319 --> 04:00:55,959
motto in the World Wrestling Federation. I'll screw yours. You

4576
04:00:56,079 --> 04:00:59,879
scratch my back and I'll stab yours. I'll stab yours.

4577
04:01:02,959 --> 04:01:07,520
Speaker 14: Jesus Christ, remember remember Sean walking away with a small

4578
04:01:07,600 --> 04:01:09,559
you know tears running down his face and limping.

4579
04:01:09,959 --> 04:01:10,159
Speaker 5: Yeah.

4580
04:01:10,479 --> 04:01:13,399
Speaker 14: Two weeks later, he's back on Raw and he's not hobbling,

4581
04:01:14,399 --> 04:01:16,520
he's not hobbling, and he's dressed like Don Johnson brought

4582
04:01:16,639 --> 04:01:21,639
Miami Vice. I mean, what the fuck, guys, no wonder

4583
04:01:21,680 --> 04:01:24,479
people said this. I mean two weeks later he's on Raw,

4584
04:01:24,680 --> 04:01:25,600
prancing around and.

4585
04:01:25,639 --> 04:01:26,280
Speaker 5: Part of the mix.

4586
04:01:26,920 --> 04:01:28,920
Speaker 14: Part of the mix they're hype in WrestleMania, and he's

4587
04:01:28,920 --> 04:01:32,680
standing there. He's in frame, So Shawn in play again.

4588
04:01:32,719 --> 04:01:35,600
I'm sure they didn't even fucking know. But this is

4589
04:01:35,680 --> 04:01:39,079
a famous one because they extend the window. Raw does

4590
04:01:39,079 --> 04:01:41,000
an overrun like for the first time, and they do

4591
04:01:41,120 --> 04:01:44,840
this usually controversial for the time angle after the matchup.

4592
04:01:44,879 --> 04:01:48,000
But before we get there, one last promo as champion

4593
04:01:48,159 --> 04:01:51,920
on Raw before he loses it to Undertaker at WrestleMania.

4594
04:01:52,520 --> 04:01:54,879
Speaker 5: Here is sid be Constructed.

4595
04:01:55,200 --> 04:01:57,840
Speaker 13: Psycho said, are you ready for Brett?

4596
04:01:58,239 --> 04:01:59,840
Speaker 4: They hit man Heart.

4597
04:02:00,719 --> 04:02:05,680
Speaker 11: Ready, miss big Back, go Stave Austin be Rediy, you

4598
04:02:05,879 --> 04:02:07,440
asked out of my business?

4599
04:02:07,719 --> 04:02:08,760
Speaker 3: Did I know why you're here?

4600
04:02:09,120 --> 04:02:11,719
Speaker 30: And you would have to be a complete idiot to

4601
04:02:11,879 --> 04:02:13,120
know what you're up to.

4602
04:02:13,879 --> 04:02:17,000
Speaker 11: But tonight I am going to take red Hawk and

4603
04:02:17,120 --> 04:02:18,799
I'm going to power upon him.

4604
04:02:19,159 --> 04:02:22,559
Speaker 19: Right through the floor, and I will walk out the.

4605
04:02:22,680 --> 04:02:25,120
Speaker 3: World Wrestling Federation Champion.

4606
04:02:25,719 --> 04:02:29,680
Speaker 11: One reason why, because I am the man, and I

4607
04:02:29,799 --> 04:02:33,520
am the Master, and I am the ruler of the world.

4608
04:02:34,200 --> 04:02:36,120
Speaker 14: So Sid hits the ring, takes a minute to admire

4609
04:02:36,200 --> 04:02:38,520
that sparkling SID sign, which I feel like is such

4610
04:02:38,520 --> 04:02:41,559
an underrated part of why he's so fondly remembered.

4611
04:02:41,639 --> 04:02:43,719
Speaker 5: Oh, I agree, I agree. That was huge because he

4612
04:02:43,920 --> 04:02:48,200
you know, he actually uh, it's funny because the Warrior

4613
04:02:48,360 --> 04:02:51,600
was doing that and then they gave it to said, Yeah.

4614
04:02:51,399 --> 04:02:53,719
Speaker 14: They probably just like took a few pieces off the

4615
04:02:53,760 --> 04:02:55,879
Warrior's logo so it's spelled Sid instead.

4616
04:02:56,680 --> 04:02:57,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. That's huge.

4617
04:02:58,520 --> 04:03:01,200
Speaker 14: That's such a great entrance here with that thing, and

4618
04:03:01,440 --> 04:03:03,159
Undertaker and Steve Austin are trying to get their man

4619
04:03:03,239 --> 04:03:05,120
the title so they can go forward at Mania. Remember

4620
04:03:05,200 --> 04:03:07,200
that that was like the I do you know if

4621
04:03:07,360 --> 04:03:08,479
I do remember that wins.

4622
04:03:08,600 --> 04:03:12,600
Speaker 5: It was was so weird because, you know, because because

4623
04:03:12,719 --> 04:03:19,280
the way that the championship was so sloppily done, not

4624
04:03:19,440 --> 04:03:21,399
not I don't mean like in the way that but

4625
04:03:21,520 --> 04:03:25,079
the fact that it was. It was you know because

4626
04:03:25,120 --> 04:03:29,120
back in the day you know, they the whole thing

4627
04:03:29,319 --> 04:03:32,760
was whoever wins the Royal Rumble faces whoever's champion, it

4628
04:03:32,760 --> 04:03:36,680
doesn't matter, you know, you know, if if it's Brett Hart,

4629
04:03:36,799 --> 04:03:39,799
doesn't matter, if it's Undertake, it doesn't matter. The winner

4630
04:03:40,079 --> 04:03:44,719
gets the title match. But because there was no winner

4631
04:03:44,760 --> 04:03:49,000
of the rumble, you know, the whole rumble scenario was

4632
04:03:49,120 --> 04:03:54,600
so just wasn't valid anymore. It was interesting because it

4633
04:03:54,760 --> 04:03:58,520
actually made it, you know, it actually made that possible

4634
04:03:58,559 --> 04:04:02,760
where you know, where one the championship would then get,

4635
04:04:03,280 --> 04:04:06,440
you know, they would have their match be for the

4636
04:04:06,479 --> 04:04:09,120
title at at WrestleMania. It was very interesting.

4637
04:04:09,200 --> 04:04:11,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, your match was your match before they knew who

4638
04:04:11,040 --> 04:04:14,120
the champ was going to be, right right, as opposed

4639
04:04:14,159 --> 04:04:16,159
to one guy's going to challenge no matter who comes

4640
04:04:16,200 --> 04:04:19,760
in champion. And so you have Steve Austin ironically trying

4641
04:04:19,760 --> 04:04:21,639
to help Brett win the cage match against Sid so

4642
04:04:21,680 --> 04:04:23,799
he could get a title shot, and you have Undertaker

4643
04:04:23,840 --> 04:04:26,639
trying to help Sid so he could get a title shot. Yeah,

4644
04:04:26,680 --> 04:04:29,719
and a big spot where Brett super plexus Sid, which

4645
04:04:29,760 --> 04:04:31,239
is always a spot that they would do when they

4646
04:04:31,280 --> 04:04:33,479
work together to get the people up, and Sid goes

4647
04:04:33,479 --> 04:04:34,879
for the ride, and he does it for the industry.

4648
04:04:34,879 --> 04:04:35,840
I mean, I'm not here at enough.

4649
04:04:36,159 --> 04:04:37,680
Speaker 5: That's true. There you go, that's what he does to

4650
04:04:37,719 --> 04:04:38,200
look past the.

4651
04:04:38,239 --> 04:04:43,520
Speaker 14: Fact that Sid knew that taking massive soup plays off

4652
04:04:43,559 --> 04:04:45,879
the top rope equal to half a star in the

4653
04:04:45,959 --> 04:04:49,680
sheets and led to him being just a tad more

4654
04:04:49,760 --> 04:04:53,280
worthy of spotlight and a tad more worthy of our

4655
04:04:53,399 --> 04:04:57,639
desire to see guys that are too big to be

4656
04:04:57,719 --> 04:04:59,559
taking flip bumps take flip bumps.

4657
04:05:00,440 --> 04:05:16,280
Speaker 1: It's the lapsed fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that

4658
04:05:16,440 --> 04:05:19,879
knows the boys need their candy. It's the lapsed fan.

4659
04:05:34,559 --> 04:05:38,479
He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnaco

4660
04:05:38,879 --> 04:05:40,159
and JP Soro.

4661
04:05:41,040 --> 04:05:44,280
Speaker 5: And so there it was. And then Brett tries, you know,

4662
04:05:44,399 --> 04:05:47,959
you bump to take the bump, and you bump to

4663
04:05:48,000 --> 04:05:50,399
bump right, and then sometimes you feed the bump.

4664
04:05:50,520 --> 04:05:52,120
Speaker 14: I don't think said would disagree with the single word

4665
04:05:52,159 --> 04:05:54,319
you just said. And that's kind of the beauty of

4666
04:05:54,360 --> 04:05:57,360
what we managed to achieve. Looking so closely at a career.

4667
04:05:57,280 --> 04:06:00,719
Speaker 5: Like this, sometimes sometimes you don't understand, and sometimes you

4668
04:06:00,840 --> 04:06:04,200
have to bump. Sometimes you gotta bump to bump right,

4669
04:06:05,040 --> 04:06:07,799
and on different times you know when you got a

4670
04:06:07,879 --> 04:06:10,600
thing going on and you cut me people coming from

4671
04:06:10,680 --> 04:06:17,440
you at all sides. Sometimes sometimes you gotta feed the

4672
04:06:17,559 --> 04:06:24,879
bump and then bump to feed and things go different ways, up, down,

4673
04:06:25,360 --> 04:06:29,719
all around. But time and time again, I've proven that's

4674
04:06:29,799 --> 04:06:36,520
real simple, that it's real simple. A bump defines who

4675
04:06:37,040 --> 04:06:44,079
you are as a bump master. I guess that's true. Yeah,

4676
04:06:44,159 --> 04:06:46,239
if you're a bump master. Yes, bumps do define you.

4677
04:06:46,319 --> 04:06:49,559
That is true, And it's time to feed at the

4678
04:06:49,719 --> 04:06:53,000
draft of glory and definition.

4679
04:06:53,520 --> 04:06:55,680
Speaker 14: What a troll job that would be if they convinced

4680
04:06:55,719 --> 04:06:57,719
the local newspaper that wrote a feature little bit for

4681
04:06:57,840 --> 04:07:02,600
Sid that his nickname in wrestling was the Master's that's Sid,

4682
04:07:02,680 --> 04:07:04,319
who is known in the industry as the bump Master

4683
04:07:04,520 --> 04:07:08,159
for his ability to take amazing follows from awkward angles.

4684
04:07:09,200 --> 04:07:11,120
Speaker 5: The Revolutionary bump Master.

4685
04:07:13,360 --> 04:07:15,799
Speaker 14: Sounds like a discarded nickname for PN news or something.

4686
04:07:17,559 --> 04:07:20,479
The Revolutionary bump Master, as he was known.

4687
04:07:21,479 --> 04:07:22,239
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

4688
04:07:23,280 --> 04:07:25,360
Speaker 14: So it plays out and Brett tries to get through

4689
04:07:25,360 --> 04:07:27,159
the door of the cage and Undertaker slammed it in

4690
04:07:27,239 --> 04:07:30,280
his face because he wants Sid to win, and as

4691
04:07:30,280 --> 04:07:33,959
a result of doing that, Sid does win. So he

4692
04:07:34,079 --> 04:07:38,159
retains the championship. The ring clears and Vince gets in

4693
04:07:38,200 --> 04:07:40,399
the ring to do a postmatch interview with Brett Hart

4694
04:07:41,040 --> 04:07:43,360
and he says, you know, Brett, you must be frustrated,

4695
04:07:43,399 --> 04:07:46,879
and Brett goes frustrated. Frustrated is not the goddamn word

4696
04:07:47,000 --> 04:07:50,799
for it. This is bullshit. First time ship had ever

4697
04:07:50,879 --> 04:07:54,040
been said. I remember like watching this, like, oh my god,

4698
04:07:54,120 --> 04:07:57,200
he just said that, like I was so heart in

4699
04:07:57,280 --> 04:07:59,200
my throat when he did that, and then he shoved Vince,

4700
04:07:59,360 --> 04:08:03,520
like whoa, he's actually attacking Vince, Like that's that's crossing

4701
04:08:03,559 --> 04:08:06,680
a line we haven't seen cross before. And he says,

4702
04:08:06,719 --> 04:08:10,319
if you don't like it, tough ship. And it's funny

4703
04:08:10,399 --> 04:08:13,719
because Sid is uh having won the match, He's still

4704
04:08:13,799 --> 04:08:16,280
up at the top of this new rampway and he's

4705
04:08:16,479 --> 04:08:19,520
listening to everything Brett's saying, and Brett looks at him

4706
04:08:19,520 --> 04:08:22,680
and he's telling him, you know, if you don't like it,

4707
04:08:22,760 --> 04:08:24,520
I'm the champion. If you don't like it, that's tough

4708
04:08:24,559 --> 04:08:27,200
ship to you. And Sid's pointing to Brett and if

4709
04:08:27,239 --> 04:08:30,200
you listen to the camera picks up Sid saying something hilarious.

4710
04:08:29,959 --> 04:08:32,399
Speaker 4: Is it apologize takes a red.

4711
04:08:34,559 --> 04:08:36,879
Speaker 3: You are wrong belt.

4712
04:08:48,000 --> 04:08:51,000
Speaker 4: Apologized, takes a red.

4713
04:08:53,159 --> 04:08:55,559
Speaker 3: You are wrong belt.

4714
04:09:00,120 --> 04:09:07,079
Speaker 14: That hard lady, Sid, I don't know shit, ladies and gentlemen,

4715
04:09:07,120 --> 04:09:09,319
witness said, when they let guys say shit un raw

4716
04:09:09,399 --> 04:09:12,120
for the first time, first chance.

4717
04:09:11,959 --> 04:09:16,639
Speaker 5: He gets I don't know shit, cry baby, Sid, Sid

4718
04:09:17,879 --> 04:09:18,639
wil it out.

4719
04:09:19,840 --> 04:09:21,799
Speaker 3: Oh god, I can't fucking handle it.

4720
04:09:22,239 --> 04:09:22,639
Speaker 5: I can't.

4721
04:09:23,479 --> 04:09:25,280
Speaker 3: He's so I don't know shit.

4722
04:09:25,760 --> 04:09:28,639
Speaker 14: I never told would say I don't know shit, like

4723
04:09:30,239 --> 04:09:31,760
you know, and like in the moment, it's you get

4724
04:09:31,799 --> 04:09:34,760
why he said it, But like somehow no one else

4725
04:09:34,879 --> 04:09:37,200
ends up doing that to themselves, you.

4726
04:09:37,239 --> 04:09:40,120
Speaker 5: Know, no one else ends up suddenly complete.

4727
04:09:40,120 --> 04:09:45,159
Speaker 14: And utter fool Sid, all right, and what's the one

4728
04:09:45,239 --> 04:09:47,719
with Nash does We'll get there, But it's in w

4729
04:09:47,879 --> 04:09:50,319
C in the run to come, and he says something like,

4730
04:09:51,200 --> 04:09:53,559
you know, you don't have half I have half the

4731
04:09:53,600 --> 04:09:56,959
brain that you do. And he would try to patch

4732
04:09:57,040 --> 04:09:59,639
that up and act like he was told to say that,

4733
04:10:00,719 --> 04:10:02,440
like that was he was giving a script to say that,

4734
04:10:02,600 --> 04:10:04,000
to make him sound.

4735
04:10:03,959 --> 04:10:08,319
Speaker 5: Oh no, dude, like it's just bad. It's just bad.

4736
04:10:08,680 --> 04:10:15,000
He's such like you know, for every for every like

4737
04:10:15,440 --> 04:10:18,799
you know, moment of greatness, he's got like eighty of

4738
04:10:19,200 --> 04:10:21,520
just it exactly. And that's what we're here to do,

4739
04:10:21,680 --> 04:10:25,479
is to do the math, right. I don't know shit.

4740
04:10:28,360 --> 04:10:32,200
I'm a fucking to add that. That's when he really

4741
04:10:32,799 --> 04:10:33,559
dug his own grave.

4742
04:10:34,959 --> 04:10:37,600
Speaker 3: You know what I do, Bret Hort, I stick my

4743
04:10:37,719 --> 04:10:40,799
head in the sand and I eat warm.

4744
04:10:42,559 --> 04:10:46,000
Speaker 5: I don't know shit, cry baby. I don't file taxes

4745
04:10:46,079 --> 04:10:53,280
like I'm supposed to a hot income. I'm a tax dodger.

4746
04:10:54,760 --> 04:11:00,360
It's like what, I don't know shit.

4747
04:11:01,319 --> 04:11:07,639
Speaker 36: I don't live here, he says Russ Upple, I got

4748
04:11:07,719 --> 04:11:14,840
to be on us. I don't know shit on just

4749
04:11:15,040 --> 04:11:17,600
no Fianna Sausages.

4750
04:11:18,840 --> 04:11:20,799
Speaker 14: And Austin and Taker are tussling as well to end

4751
04:11:20,799 --> 04:11:25,040
this episode of raw and uh, it's amazing. And this

4752
04:11:25,159 --> 04:11:27,920
is also where Brett Deck's hall offimer Pat Patterson, that

4753
04:11:28,040 --> 04:11:30,040
dirty son of it in Vince almost says son of

4754
04:11:30,079 --> 04:11:32,959
a bitch on commentary because Brett laid out Patterson, who,

4755
04:11:33,000 --> 04:11:35,719
by the way, absolutely had to be the agent that

4756
04:11:35,879 --> 04:11:39,159
was crying for Shawn Michaels after Sid beat Sean. There's

4757
04:11:39,200 --> 04:11:42,799
nothing pat loved more than to cry at Shawn Michaels.

4758
04:11:43,399 --> 04:11:47,079
Uh famously. Uh, you know he agented the Iron Man match,

4759
04:11:47,159 --> 04:11:49,840
and I would cry. And afterwards, you know, with Pat cries,

4760
04:11:49,959 --> 04:11:52,559
he does, he'd let you know he cried. You know,

4761
04:11:53,159 --> 04:11:57,360
that's like his way of remembering something as being epic. Oh,

4762
04:11:57,399 --> 04:12:00,520
if Pat cries, it's a big deal. And he loved

4763
04:12:00,559 --> 04:12:02,639
Shawn and loved you know, coming up with stuff for

4764
04:12:02,680 --> 04:12:05,840
Shawn's matches and all that, So that would be my guess. Anyway,

4765
04:12:06,639 --> 04:12:09,000
Brett Deck's Pat Patterson as well. And now Brett's well

4766
04:12:09,040 --> 04:12:11,879
on his way to being this uber heel that elevates

4767
04:12:12,520 --> 04:12:14,959
the uber the baby faced Steve Austin, and we're off

4768
04:12:15,000 --> 04:12:17,280
to the races in that regard. And while this is

4769
04:12:17,280 --> 04:12:19,600
all going on here in this final rob before WRESTLMINGI thirteen,

4770
04:12:19,600 --> 04:12:23,159
Shawn Michaels himself surefooted as ever, comes out and surveys

4771
04:12:23,200 --> 04:12:27,120
all the chaos and Sid makes one last walkers Champion,

4772
04:12:27,200 --> 04:12:31,239
Ladies and gentlemen at the WrestleMania thirteen in Chicago, where

4773
04:12:31,239 --> 04:12:34,000
he is to defend the championship against the Undertaker.

4774
04:12:34,680 --> 04:12:35,280
Speaker 5: And here it is.

4775
04:12:37,120 --> 04:12:41,159
Speaker 8: Sean and Michael's and Sean Michael's did you have those

4776
04:12:41,200 --> 04:12:42,799
ghost bumps all over your body?

4777
04:12:42,840 --> 04:12:43,959
Speaker 6: With us man coming in a ry?

4778
04:12:44,000 --> 04:12:46,360
Speaker 44: Oh yeah, I love yeah, are you ready to take

4779
04:12:46,959 --> 04:12:48,799
a walk on the dark side?

4780
04:12:48,920 --> 04:12:49,520
Speaker 6: Guests to night.

4781
04:12:49,799 --> 04:12:52,680
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna happen when Yonder Taker's got my man,

4782
04:12:52,760 --> 04:12:55,200
I'm coming in. I'll tell you what. Then you're in

4783
04:12:55,280 --> 04:12:57,719
this building right now, I'm mounting that. Boys and girls,

4784
04:12:58,040 --> 04:12:58,760
you can feel it.

4785
04:12:59,120 --> 04:13:01,079
Speaker 6: Something is definitely gonna go down tonight.

4786
04:13:01,520 --> 04:13:04,319
Speaker 8: And something I already has its spiking up. Something going down.

4787
04:13:04,799 --> 04:13:09,000
Speaker 2: Here he comes, she.

4788
04:13:12,760 --> 04:13:16,840
Speaker 13: Said, ladies and gentlemen, And he is the man, and

4789
04:13:17,000 --> 04:13:17,799
he stepped.

4790
04:13:17,520 --> 04:13:19,840
Speaker 6: To the ring, and he speak.

4791
04:13:24,040 --> 04:13:26,360
Speaker 4: And then think about Ken said, if.

4792
04:13:26,239 --> 04:13:29,799
Speaker 2: He has time upbraid and I'm the dark and I

4793
04:13:29,920 --> 04:13:30,120
know what.

4794
04:13:30,360 --> 04:13:33,520
Speaker 3: Sometimes back you, okay, sometimes you.

4795
04:13:33,639 --> 04:13:36,239
Speaker 6: Gotta be smart enough to be a plaid like see,

4796
04:13:36,639 --> 04:13:38,079
I'm afraid of the dark.

4797
04:13:38,280 --> 04:13:40,520
Speaker 32: You know what I'm afraid of, Sean Michaels. I'm afraid

4798
04:13:40,559 --> 04:13:42,479
you're a big liar. Why don't you tell the truth.

4799
04:13:42,600 --> 04:13:44,479
You're out here for one reason. You're out here to

4800
04:13:44,559 --> 04:13:45,879
try to do something the fight.

4801
04:13:45,920 --> 04:13:47,799
Speaker 2: Don't sit Why don't you tell a night not to

4802
04:13:47,879 --> 04:13:48,559
out a chance?

4803
04:13:48,719 --> 04:13:49,399
Speaker 6: Not a chance.

4804
04:13:49,719 --> 04:13:52,280
Speaker 2: I'm here to watch fine, here's a rustling fan.

4805
04:13:52,520 --> 04:13:55,440
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm a gold year old boy against sitting.

4806
04:13:55,200 --> 04:13:58,360
Speaker 2: Here watching the sport that I love from the good scene.

4807
04:14:00,600 --> 04:14:02,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, in the front call.

4808
04:14:03,719 --> 04:14:07,120
Speaker 29: Theres I is said three sixty nine per team, the

4809
04:14:07,319 --> 04:14:09,799
challenger six ten three twenty eight?

4810
04:14:10,719 --> 04:14:14,639
Speaker 13: What a nic will not be a technical master fee that's.

4811
04:14:14,479 --> 04:14:16,000
Speaker 5: Gonna be up come again?

4812
04:14:16,159 --> 04:14:18,440
Speaker 2: God mean who will follow his tenth?

4813
04:14:18,719 --> 04:14:19,159
Speaker 4: Of course?

4814
04:14:19,600 --> 04:14:20,840
Speaker 2: Will it be the five five?

4815
04:14:21,280 --> 04:14:22,280
Speaker 6: Or will it be the tenth?

4816
04:14:22,360 --> 04:14:24,440
Speaker 4: Don't tile Driver and Sean Michels.

4817
04:14:24,479 --> 04:14:26,600
Speaker 8: You've been in the ring with both of these individuals,

4818
04:14:27,559 --> 04:14:30,879
and I would suggest that you know exactly what it's

4819
04:14:30,959 --> 04:14:33,479
like if you want to receiving end of when them

4820
04:14:33,479 --> 04:14:35,680
Psycho said power bombs is land matter?

4821
04:14:35,959 --> 04:14:37,280
Speaker 4: A duke got oh there it is?

4822
04:14:37,719 --> 04:14:40,280
Speaker 2: What he's the man? Is he enough?

4823
04:14:40,399 --> 04:14:40,559
Speaker 15: Man?

4824
04:14:41,000 --> 04:14:43,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what a lot of this has

4825
04:14:43,440 --> 04:14:44,600
to do with's momentum.

4826
04:14:44,920 --> 04:14:48,920
Speaker 6: Stud has had momentum. It's an India those square card. No,

4827
04:14:49,040 --> 04:14:51,360
I don't think he's had flu then on but the

4828
04:14:51,399 --> 04:14:52,680
other night, dr night.

4829
04:14:52,840 --> 04:14:55,559
Speaker 2: I just played to the awards. You can tell that's

4830
04:14:55,559 --> 04:14:58,079
the other day. A walk up there to receive.

4831
04:14:57,920 --> 04:14:59,079
Speaker 4: The war deck for award.

4832
04:14:59,440 --> 04:14:59,840
Speaker 2: Its fun.

4833
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:04,479
Speaker 6: He was changing, beam was changing I well of first

4834
04:15:04,520 --> 04:15:06,280
time ever. I don't want to write for much.

4835
04:15:06,719 --> 04:15:08,280
Speaker 45: I would not want to be in the ring, But

4836
04:15:08,479 --> 04:15:10,680
either one of these guys, you're talking a whole lot

4837
04:15:10,719 --> 04:15:12,360
of bunk, a whole lot of mass.

4838
04:15:12,680 --> 04:15:13,600
Speaker 6: You ready to get that.

4839
04:15:14,000 --> 04:15:16,879
Speaker 8: It's all about respect, is it not, Sean Michaels, and

4840
04:15:16,920 --> 04:15:20,079
I would suggest, and certainly you respect Boom in the

4841
04:15:20,159 --> 04:15:22,520
Miduels in the ring as well as they respect each other.

4842
04:15:22,959 --> 04:15:23,280
Speaker 28: Certainly.

4843
04:15:23,319 --> 04:15:24,440
Speaker 44: Oh yeah, I mean there are a lot of guys

4844
04:15:24,520 --> 04:15:26,840
you're in a well ustling federation that it would sit

4845
04:15:26,920 --> 04:15:27,120
in my.

4846
04:15:27,360 --> 04:15:29,680
Speaker 6: Chair right now and take the cheap shots to post

4847
04:15:29,719 --> 04:15:30,200
these guys.

4848
04:15:30,440 --> 04:15:31,239
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do it.

4849
04:15:31,479 --> 04:15:34,399
Speaker 45: I respect for Sid and I have my limited respect

4850
04:15:34,639 --> 04:15:37,639
for the Undertaker. He's got ice water ring through his veins.

4851
04:15:37,840 --> 04:15:39,959
You ain't gonna shake up the Undertaker, So you got

4852
04:15:40,000 --> 04:15:41,479
to pay out some way to beat him, and it

4853
04:15:41,520 --> 04:15:41,920
ain't ees.

4854
04:15:42,879 --> 04:15:46,079
Speaker 14: So it's wrestling Mania thirteen. Sid walks on to a big,

4855
04:15:46,239 --> 04:15:48,719
big stage. I think we can say one last time

4856
04:15:49,520 --> 04:15:52,239
in a lot of ways, well he sure got some people,

4857
04:15:52,319 --> 04:15:54,920
I mean, events, WCW. It never quite felt like this

4858
04:15:55,079 --> 04:15:58,680
again for Sid as he does the honors for the

4859
04:15:58,840 --> 04:16:02,559
Undertaker and and you know, not before Brett comes out

4860
04:16:03,159 --> 04:16:05,239
and gets involved like the bitch he is after.

4861
04:16:05,079 --> 04:16:07,319
Speaker 5: That, I know, I know seriously, like they just this

4862
04:16:07,520 --> 04:16:10,840
is that. I mean, it's it's great to me. It

4863
04:16:11,000 --> 04:16:14,879
was great because it solidified his heel status, but still

4864
04:16:14,959 --> 04:16:16,360
is he is He is a bitch.

4865
04:16:17,479 --> 04:16:19,479
Speaker 14: He is a bitch for coming out after assaulting Steve

4866
04:16:19,520 --> 04:16:21,440
Austin after the bell and passing him out in the

4867
04:16:21,440 --> 04:16:23,200
sharpshooter and then taking the chair to his knee and

4868
04:16:23,239 --> 04:16:25,559
all that. So he's full heel now flipping fans off

4869
04:16:25,600 --> 04:16:27,600
on his way back up the aisleway, and then he

4870
04:16:27,680 --> 04:16:30,079
comes out and tries to fuck with the WWF title match.

4871
04:16:30,600 --> 04:16:34,520
So it happens, and Sid ends up getting basically hot

4872
04:16:34,559 --> 04:16:36,639
shot across the top rope from the apron by an

4873
04:16:36,680 --> 04:16:40,879
interfering Brett Hart and spins right around and to the

4874
04:16:41,079 --> 04:16:44,719
end of his second and final WWF world title reign.

4875
04:16:45,399 --> 04:16:48,760
Speaker 8: The moment tivin dat w w F Champion is his drink.

4876
04:16:49,120 --> 04:16:51,040
Speaker 46: Maybe a love best going on in the arena, but

4877
04:16:51,120 --> 04:16:53,239
that love is about to turn the rage. This man,

4878
04:16:53,280 --> 04:16:56,799
the World Wrestling Federation Champion. Psycho Sid has defeated Sewn Michaels,

4879
04:16:56,959 --> 04:16:59,559
he has defeated Brett Hard and tonight, Psycho Sid, this

4880
04:16:59,639 --> 04:17:03,040
could be the most important night of your w WF career.

4881
04:17:03,079 --> 04:17:06,200
As you meet the Undertaker letting go, You are right,

4882
04:17:06,280 --> 04:17:10,360
my friend, WrestleMania is the biggest, the beat of the world.

4883
04:17:11,760 --> 04:17:13,280
Speaker 6: What's a year but.

4884
04:17:13,440 --> 04:17:16,479
Speaker 7: The night when darkness false?

4885
04:17:17,360 --> 04:17:22,520
Speaker 26: Every man, woman and child, Oh, he is scared except.

4886
04:17:22,200 --> 04:17:23,079
Speaker 2: For one person.

4887
04:17:24,479 --> 04:17:28,319
Speaker 47: Only one person is that scared of the darkness. And

4888
04:17:28,520 --> 04:17:31,920
one person is not scared of the Undertaker. And that

4889
04:17:32,000 --> 04:17:34,760
has me, my friend, the game.

4890
04:17:34,879 --> 04:17:37,360
Speaker 26: We plase, I am the master.

4891
04:17:40,479 --> 04:17:44,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they already has.

4892
04:17:44,159 --> 04:17:54,680
Speaker 8: It's pigging up, something going down there. You come, lad

4893
04:17:54,840 --> 04:17:56,399
and gentlemen, and he.

4894
04:17:56,840 --> 04:18:01,239
Speaker 6: Is the man who he sapt for the rag. We speak.

4895
04:18:05,479 --> 04:18:06,319
Speaker 2: And then they are hot.

4896
04:18:06,440 --> 04:18:09,920
Speaker 8: Like con said, if he has time up grade, I'm

4897
04:18:09,959 --> 04:18:12,920
the dark and you know what, sometimes.

4898
04:18:12,760 --> 04:18:15,799
Speaker 6: I can work against ship. Sometimes you gotta be smart

4899
04:18:15,959 --> 04:18:19,479
enough to be afraaid, Like, gee, I'm afraid of the dark.

4900
04:18:19,719 --> 04:18:21,959
Speaker 32: You know what I'm afraid of Sean Michael's I'm afraid

4901
04:18:22,000 --> 04:18:23,920
you're a big liar. Why don't you tell them truth?

4902
04:18:24,040 --> 04:18:25,920
You're out here for one reason. You're out here to

4903
04:18:26,000 --> 04:18:27,760
try to do something that's not gonna sit.

4904
04:18:27,920 --> 04:18:29,239
Speaker 2: Why don't you tell him to about that?

4905
04:18:29,319 --> 04:18:30,840
Speaker 6: Not a chance, not a chance.

4906
04:18:31,159 --> 04:18:33,840
Speaker 2: I'm here the last five years a rustling man.

4907
04:18:33,959 --> 04:18:36,799
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm a twelve year old boy against sitting.

4908
04:18:36,600 --> 04:18:37,680
Speaker 2: Here watching the sport.

4909
04:18:37,760 --> 04:18:39,319
Speaker 4: Then, oh boy, I'm a.

4910
04:18:39,319 --> 04:18:43,680
Speaker 5: Good seats again. All about Sean in a fun ron.

4911
04:18:45,120 --> 04:18:48,360
Speaker 29: Theres I'm a said the six y nine treatmer ms

4912
04:18:48,559 --> 04:18:52,840
the calender six ten three twenty eight on this that

4913
04:18:53,000 --> 04:18:55,079
will not be a tend'tal master th.

4914
04:18:55,639 --> 04:18:57,920
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a slick or knocker. There's gonna be

4915
04:18:58,200 --> 04:19:00,840
who will follow his tenth the pass.

4916
04:19:01,040 --> 04:19:03,280
Speaker 3: Want to be the high bab or will it be

4917
04:19:03,399 --> 04:19:04,040
the tents.

4918
04:19:03,799 --> 04:19:05,879
Speaker 4: Don't til driver and Sean Michaels.

4919
04:19:05,920 --> 04:19:08,040
Speaker 8: You've been in the ring with both of these individuals,

4920
04:19:09,000 --> 04:19:12,280
and I would suggest that you know exactly what it's

4921
04:19:12,399 --> 04:19:15,399
like to be on the receiving end of when mside goes.

4922
04:19:15,479 --> 04:19:16,719
Speaker 4: It's power bombses l.

4923
04:19:16,920 --> 04:19:19,959
Speaker 8: Matter a dum got oh there it is what he's

4924
04:19:20,000 --> 04:19:20,399
the man?

4925
04:19:21,159 --> 04:19:21,680
Speaker 2: Is he enough?

4926
04:19:21,840 --> 04:19:22,000
Speaker 36: Man?

4927
04:19:22,520 --> 04:19:26,040
Speaker 6: Wan tell you what this has to do with momentum.

4928
04:19:26,360 --> 04:19:29,120
Sid has had momentum since he med me in those

4929
04:19:29,239 --> 04:19:32,159
square garden, and I don't like he's had from then on.

4930
04:19:32,559 --> 04:19:34,559
But the other night, dry night, I just.

4931
04:19:34,680 --> 04:19:35,479
Speaker 4: Play the awards.

4932
04:19:35,840 --> 04:19:38,159
Speaker 2: You can tell as the other make a walk up

4933
04:19:38,239 --> 04:19:38,719
there to.

4934
04:19:38,840 --> 04:19:42,200
Speaker 6: Receive more des for award and Fucting was changing.

4935
04:19:42,479 --> 04:19:43,879
Speaker 2: I'm moments changing.

4936
04:19:44,520 --> 04:19:47,079
Speaker 6: I'm well the first time ever. I don't want to

4937
04:19:47,120 --> 04:19:47,719
wait for much.

4938
04:19:48,120 --> 04:19:49,719
Speaker 2: I would not want to be in the ring with

4939
04:19:49,879 --> 04:19:52,120
either one of these guys. You're talking a whole lot

4940
04:19:52,159 --> 04:19:54,719
of folk, a whole lot of masks. You're ready to

4941
04:19:54,760 --> 04:19:55,040
get that.

4942
04:19:55,440 --> 04:19:58,239
Speaker 8: It's all about in respect, is it not, Sean Michaels,

4943
04:19:58,280 --> 04:20:02,239
and I would suggest it certainly. Respect individuals in the

4944
04:20:02,319 --> 04:20:03,959
ring as well as they respect each other.

4945
04:20:04,360 --> 04:20:05,680
Speaker 2: Certainly. Oh yeah, I mean there are a lot of

4946
04:20:05,719 --> 04:20:07,719
guys here in the Love Vessel Federation that.

4947
04:20:07,799 --> 04:20:10,079
Speaker 6: I would sit in my chair right now and take

4948
04:20:10,200 --> 04:20:12,680
cheap shots in both these guys. I'm not gonna do it.

4949
04:20:12,879 --> 04:20:16,000
Speaker 45: I respect for Sin and I have no limited respect

4950
04:20:16,239 --> 04:20:19,239
for the Undertaker. He's got ice water running through his veins.

4951
04:20:19,440 --> 04:20:21,600
You ain't gonna shake up the Undertaker, So you gonna

4952
04:20:21,600 --> 04:20:22,079
to fire.

4953
04:20:21,879 --> 04:20:23,520
Speaker 4: Out some way to beat him at it ain't he's

4954
04:20:24,799 --> 04:20:25,280
here on in.

4955
04:20:25,600 --> 04:20:26,879
Speaker 19: It's a new set of rules.

4956
04:20:26,920 --> 04:20:28,000
Speaker 4: You're pretty showing me.

4957
04:20:28,280 --> 04:20:30,879
Speaker 2: Oh my, I can't remember last time Brett was anybody's friend.

4958
04:20:30,959 --> 04:20:31,280
Speaker 9: And you.

4959
04:20:34,520 --> 04:20:38,479
Speaker 5: You know, and I know Brett comes out before the matter.

4960
04:20:41,680 --> 04:20:45,280
Speaker 16: No, he said he's a compet dang that World Resident

4961
04:20:45,479 --> 04:20:46,440
Federation shiff.

4962
04:20:46,479 --> 04:20:48,520
Speaker 4: You're suppel belongs.

4963
04:20:48,079 --> 04:20:50,440
Speaker 6: To me and you are fraud.

4964
04:20:51,840 --> 04:20:52,600
Speaker 4: Well it looks like.

4965
04:20:55,120 --> 04:20:55,520
Speaker 39: You know it.

4966
04:20:56,159 --> 04:20:56,559
Speaker 26: I know it.

4967
04:20:56,879 --> 04:20:59,760
Speaker 20: And every single person in this building, whether you're here,

4968
04:21:00,120 --> 04:21:03,079
we're outside of TV man, you all know that I

4969
04:21:03,200 --> 04:21:06,399
am the pestor is the pestor was and the pestor

4970
04:21:06,479 --> 04:21:06,639
of a.

4971
04:21:06,719 --> 04:21:11,760
Speaker 30: Wilber said, I'll read that.

4972
04:21:12,040 --> 04:21:14,079
Speaker 4: And now you're getting beat up because you're big mouth.

4973
04:21:14,319 --> 04:21:20,239
Speaker 5: Oh prop hard power.

4974
04:21:22,040 --> 04:21:24,520
Speaker 13: After that submission match, let's not put him in a

4975
04:21:24,600 --> 04:21:25,280
bad way.

4976
04:21:25,959 --> 04:21:27,920
Speaker 19: Do you take your side?

4977
04:21:29,079 --> 04:21:33,520
Speaker 5: Yeah's amazing Ron.

4978
04:21:33,440 --> 04:21:35,719
Speaker 4: Hart, who was technically a winner.

4979
04:21:37,559 --> 04:21:41,040
Speaker 8: You may say technically because Steve Austin never said he

4980
04:21:41,159 --> 04:21:42,040
said he will.

4981
04:21:42,079 --> 04:21:44,200
Speaker 4: You never hear the words I quit, and we never

4982
04:21:44,319 --> 04:21:44,959
ever did.

4983
04:21:45,399 --> 04:21:51,639
Speaker 11: Hold along time lady, because why did the din you

4984
04:21:51,760 --> 04:21:53,840
hear ass We.

4985
04:21:53,920 --> 04:21:54,799
Speaker 33: May tell him.

4986
04:21:56,920 --> 04:21:58,559
Speaker 4: They chip out of watchings.

4987
04:22:01,120 --> 04:22:03,840
Speaker 44: Anything can happen, and it usually does. It's just the

4988
04:22:03,959 --> 04:22:06,000
rest of us don't warning about it. Just he does,

4989
04:22:07,200 --> 04:22:12,959
regardless of the undertaker is Hall. Steve toughslam f Tough

4990
04:22:13,079 --> 04:22:15,120
slam SA.

4991
04:22:15,479 --> 04:22:16,440
Speaker 10: Said, what.

4992
04:22:19,079 --> 04:22:19,840
Speaker 2: Are you baby?

4993
04:22:19,959 --> 04:22:25,639
Speaker 4: There no no well cover I can man.

4994
04:22:27,079 --> 04:22:27,879
Speaker 6: Coming believe the.

4995
04:22:27,959 --> 04:22:30,959
Speaker 21: Water sat tech tou They got the right seer up

4996
04:22:31,360 --> 04:22:32,959
if you can watch have a leave that.

4997
04:22:36,600 --> 04:22:39,840
Speaker 8: Set in the undertaker fuck man back up on their feet, repurt.

4998
04:22:39,879 --> 04:22:41,840
So now I'm gonna take her off the ropes from

4999
04:22:41,920 --> 04:22:43,079
the other side, under take.

5000
04:22:42,959 --> 04:22:43,559
Speaker 2: Her in there.

5001
04:22:44,959 --> 04:22:47,639
Speaker 21: Set, I'm going to the contact there say it saw

5002
04:22:47,639 --> 04:22:49,719
im come, I'm gonna move by said, I'm undertake your

5003
04:22:49,760 --> 04:22:52,399
way for the flying clothes on against Sid ducked.

5004
04:22:52,239 --> 04:22:52,920
Speaker 2: Out of the way.

5005
04:22:54,399 --> 04:22:58,000
Speaker 8: And a sea saw matchup for the World Rosstak Federation Championship.

5006
04:22:58,079 --> 04:22:58,760
Speaker 2: And here we are.

5007
04:23:00,399 --> 04:23:03,399
Speaker 35: Power power.

5008
04:23:05,440 --> 04:23:09,559
Speaker 5: Shure ho run your fam Come on, Pratt.

5009
04:23:11,799 --> 04:23:12,879
Speaker 4: Doesn't he ever had time?

5010
04:23:13,040 --> 04:23:17,920
Speaker 5: Rda tombstone?

5011
04:23:19,680 --> 04:23:42,760
Speaker 20: Tombstone, He's as time.

5012
04:23:51,280 --> 04:23:54,280
Speaker 14: And so the title reign that said is over, but

5013
04:23:54,440 --> 04:23:57,840
our examination of his title reign has one leg to go.

5014
04:23:58,280 --> 04:24:00,440
The next time, We're with you on t LS tribute

5015
04:24:00,479 --> 04:24:04,639
to Sid we deep dive the February seventeenth, nineteen ninety

5016
04:24:04,680 --> 04:24:07,559
seven edition of Monday Night Raw, where Sid captures the

5017
04:24:07,600 --> 04:24:13,120
belt for the second time. We'll see you then, biting announcement.

5018
04:24:13,120 --> 04:24:16,520
Speaker 1: As a tej Tosantus production, its contents is intended for

5019
04:24:16,639 --> 04:24:17,600
private use only.