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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dank Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,

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<v Speaker 1>and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every

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<v Speaker 1>single day on your favorite podcast platform. A great time

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<v Speaker 1>to be alive, right, I mean, so many things going well,

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<v Speaker 1>so many things going better, and everything's not perfect. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be puppies and rainbows and unicorns, but boy,

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<v Speaker 1>the world ever since November four, seems to be heading

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<v Speaker 1>overall in a better direction now. Obviously, as a Catholic,

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<v Speaker 1>as a Christian, just as an American and a person

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<v Speaker 1>who lives on this third rock from the Sun, I

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<v Speaker 1>just could not be more excited about the new pope.

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<v Speaker 1>And even you know, immediately yesterday based on everything we knew,

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<v Speaker 1>but overnight that's just strengthened, and I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of very good, concrete reasons to believe it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be good for America, good for the world. As a Catholic,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very happy that it's going to be very very

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<v Speaker 1>good for the Catholic Church. Eight five five for zero

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<v Speaker 1>five eight two five five you can text Dan Dan

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<v Speaker 1>five seven seven, three nine. A lot of ground to

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<v Speaker 1>cover this afternoon, but jump in anytime on anything you'd like.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to love this guest at four twenty this afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>let's make it four twenty one. I hate that four

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<v Speaker 1>twenty number. But my uncle Roger Caplis's father, Roger Capitalis's

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<v Speaker 1>going to join us. He's been a priest in Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>now for sixty something years. He's ninety three years old,

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<v Speaker 1>still does three messes a week, as I was telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>still packs the house because he's so good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's going to give us his perspective on the

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<v Speaker 1>new Pope, and so I'm anxious to get that from

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<v Speaker 1>him for a lot of different reasons. First, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>a Catholic priest for a long time, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>he's also from Chicago. I don't think he knows the

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<v Speaker 1>new Pope personally, but still want to get his take

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<v Speaker 1>on that. So that'll be at four twenty one. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot going on when it comes to the new Pope,

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<v Speaker 1>but also in the news otherwise locally and nationally. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry I've got to start with this because it is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest nine to one one calls I

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<v Speaker 1>have ever heard in my life. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's going so viral. I think it's going to start

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<v Speaker 1>just a new uh just kind of a new phrase

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<v Speaker 1>of its own. I know I plan to use it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to figure out how you'll know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hear this this nine one one call, raise some eyebrassne.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your emergency?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my wat got attacked by a warthog, real.

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<v Speaker 4>Bad, and I need someone to come up with ambulance

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<v Speaker 4>and pick her up.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, sir, can you give me your draft?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're at one eight two five. Eucalyptus drive.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, could you spell.

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<v Speaker 6>That for me?

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<v Speaker 3>Sir? I'm gonna drag her on over to Oak Street

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<v Speaker 3>and you can pick her up there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the greatest ever, right, who could spell eucalyptus.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't spell eucalyptics. I see, I can't even say it.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh but yeah, I think I'll drag her over

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<v Speaker 1>to Oak oh a, K see, Ryan, that that's gotta

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<v Speaker 1>become like that the new phrase for everything, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, if somebody asks you something you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I think I'll drag her over to Oak.

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<v Speaker 1>It's easier to spell.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, it makes me think of locally here in Denver,

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<v Speaker 5>Dan I think there's a road, and correct me if

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<v Speaker 5>I'm wrong, because everything I say around here apparently Denver

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<v Speaker 5>rights have changed it. For instance, like Alameda is Alameda,

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<v Speaker 5>and then Galapagos I think is Gallapagos instead.

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<v Speaker 7>So it'd be like that street it you know, not

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<v Speaker 7>easy to spell.

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<v Speaker 3>And this guy you.

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<v Speaker 7>Kind of see his point.

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<v Speaker 5>He pot says, He's like, tell you what, I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>gonna drag her over to Oaks Street.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just gonna drag her over to Oak. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that just I gotta I could sit here

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<v Speaker 1>all afternoon and just play that and have a great afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Attacked by a wart hog?

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<v Speaker 7>Wart hog?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I remember getting chased? Was it a wart hog?

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<v Speaker 1>After I left ask Gamy, I'll left ask game. He

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<v Speaker 1>talk about your safari. No no, no, no no no,

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<v Speaker 1>this was this was off a golf course and a

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<v Speaker 1>remote location. Oh my yeah yeah, and uh and getting

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<v Speaker 1>chased I left tasker. If that was a wardhog, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember. I just remember running really really fast. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah three h three someone three eight two five five

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<v Speaker 1>You enjoyed yourself yesterday. Right, the Tiger has nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>brag about beating the Rockies twice? What they outscore them

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty three to two.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, what I learned Dan and watching is might Detroit

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<v Speaker 5>Tigers are a very good team.

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<v Speaker 1>They are.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, wow, the Rockies, Dan, they are. It's bad news bears,

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<v Speaker 5>but at a professional level. And there's really no one

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<v Speaker 5>simple explanation for It's just they show up and even

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<v Speaker 5>when things look like they might be going the Rockies way,

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<v Speaker 5>it always finds a way to reverse course on them.

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<v Speaker 5>And the Tigers just pounded them for two games there. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>tend to two and eleven to one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's an easy fix. There's an easy fix that

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<v Speaker 1>would be great for everybody. And they're going to buy

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<v Speaker 1>the Rockies. Yeah, that would be something. Right. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what's interesting though, Ryan is, as you know, there have

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<v Speaker 1>been I think at this point fear to say countless

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<v Speaker 1>billionaires offered to pay a gazillion dollars for that team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, yeah, it's not for lack of big

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<v Speaker 1>money interest.

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<v Speaker 5>I think if you and Tom Martino went in on

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<v Speaker 5>it together, you could get done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah boy, Tom, what boy? What a strong cat he is? Incredible, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just phenomenal, so impressive, Yeah, overcoming impressive.

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<v Speaker 5>A cancer and would appear to be a dire diagnosis.

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<v Speaker 5>Knock on wood and send out your prayers for Tom.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a great man, a legend in this market, and

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<v Speaker 5>he appears to be doing quite well well.

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<v Speaker 1>And he gave me my starting radio right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because we ran into each other. I was on air

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<v Speaker 1>Channel four. He'd been there forever. Everybody knew Tom, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing his radio show, Troubleshooter Show yep, and

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<v Speaker 1>he brought me over on his panel of experts, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I started filling in and then I had my

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<v Speaker 1>own show, creatively named Troubleshooter two to the sequel. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he gave me great opportunities there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm thinking about you as the Rockies owner right now, Dani,

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<v Speaker 5>allow me to have this because I think you'd be

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<v Speaker 5>a great owner, because you'd be fair, you'd have the

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<v Speaker 5>fans in mine first, and you'd want to feel a

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<v Speaker 5>competitive team.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, there is no doubt about it. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting. You won't even believe this, but it is true.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember how many years ago. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>while back when I got a call from this guy

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<v Speaker 1>who I happened to meet through the law practice, super

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<v Speaker 1>uber wealthy guy, and he just said, Hey, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to buy the Rockies, and would you run

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<v Speaker 1>it if I buy the team? WHOA And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course I would, But don't you want somebody qualified?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? But I do think in the sports world,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we've seen this a lot, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>often you end up with these executives not base necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>on their expertise in the sport, but how much the

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<v Speaker 1>owner can trust them, right, Yeah, And just that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's my fear about the Rockies. And I love them, Dan,

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<v Speaker 5>It's the only team in town pro team that I

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<v Speaker 5>can afford to buy even a baseline entry level partial

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<v Speaker 5>season ticket package for. And they're very good to their fans,

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<v Speaker 5>to me in particular, and I've been on that list,

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<v Speaker 5>and I go to these games. But what I've noticed, Dan,

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<v Speaker 5>is the incentive to win is blunted somewhat in this market, because,

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<v Speaker 5>like I was there yesterday, if there were no Detroit

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<v Speaker 5>Tigers fans in the crowd for Game two, there would

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<v Speaker 5>have been like a couple hundred people there. And these

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<v Speaker 5>other teams fans, whether it's the Red Sox, the Yankees,

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<v Speaker 5>the Dodgers, the Cardinals, the Tigers, they all come into

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<v Speaker 5>town and the Montforts.

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<v Speaker 1>Look around and well, the stadium's full. We must be

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<v Speaker 1>doing okay, yeah, you know, because it is such a

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<v Speaker 1>great experience to go. It is. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we still shell out for season tickets, and we shell out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for good season tickets. Our you know, folks

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<v Speaker 1>love them at the office, our clients love them. We

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<v Speaker 1>still do that and we'll continue to do it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a great experience even when it's an awful team. But

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<v Speaker 1>just think about the gift it would be to the community.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that literally, if all of the sudden there

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<v Speaker 1>was either new ownership that spends at the level that

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<v Speaker 1>multi billionaires would spend, or if the current ownership decides

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<v Speaker 1>to take a different approach. But the gift it would

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<v Speaker 1>be to this community to have competitive baseball game because

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<v Speaker 1>you know it, right, I mean, when you've got competitive

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<v Speaker 1>baseball and pennant races and everything else, then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>that opportunity where okay, you've got a team in the hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>and like you say, you know, the ticket prices are

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because there are more seats there, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the ticket prices are more approachable. That is just a

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<v Speaker 1>great thing for a community in every way. The current

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<v Speaker 1>status right now is not great for a community.

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<v Speaker 5>And what makes it even worse for the Rockies is

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<v Speaker 5>dan is being demonstrated by all three other major pro

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<v Speaker 5>sports teams that you can win in Denver, the Avalanche,

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<v Speaker 5>then the Broncos. They're all top level franchises that compete

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<v Speaker 5>at the highest level, that get free agents to come here.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know it's hard to get free agent pitchers

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<v Speaker 5>to pitch half their games at course Field.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a launching pad, but I think it can be done.

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<v Speaker 8>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>You can win the other way, right, because yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>free agent picture in the right mind is going to

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<v Speaker 1>come here, right, You're going to have to grow those,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can buy a whole bunch of sluggers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can win the way they used to win.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, it will happen. It will happen someday,

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<v Speaker 1>and it will be a fantastic thing for this community.

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<v Speaker 1>We have so much interesting sound this afternoon, local and

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<v Speaker 1>national stuff and all sorts of stuff with the new

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<v Speaker 1>pope and whether you're religious or not, Catholic or not,

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<v Speaker 1>Christian or not, it's still I think is really going

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<v Speaker 1>to matter to you because this pope, this pope, I

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<v Speaker 1>think is really going to matter to the world in

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<v Speaker 1>a very positive way. Will there be friction with President Trump?

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<v Speaker 1>Will start with that when we come back here on

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<v Speaker 1>the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 7>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>More Chicago than my uncle Roger Kapli's lifetime chicagoan has

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<v Speaker 1>done about everything you can possibly imagine. And a priest

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<v Speaker 1>Holy cow. And that reference to Harry Carey intended because

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<v Speaker 8>That you knew he said mass a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 1>Graham's house, your mom's house. Remember you brought over a cardinal,

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinal Cushing, I think you brought over and then she

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<v Speaker 8>That chair the day after mother died.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway, there's real excitement, of course in Chicago, and.

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<v Speaker 8>A number of guys I have met him that I

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<v Speaker 6>He uh. But the fact that he took to Leo

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<v Speaker 6>the fourteenth, now that you know, if you remember, I

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<v Speaker 6>Who have been deprived or anything that will be big

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. Well, he had so many years like in Peru

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<v Speaker 8>He's not just Chicago, although we're taking advantage of.

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<v Speaker 1>It, because really nobody epitomizes Chicago more than you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've been there your whole life. You've been

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<v Speaker 8>I never even considered a remote possibility. I have a

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<v Speaker 8>pastor at a different job. So anyway, the pope was

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<v Speaker 8>I never even really gave it serious thought. And I

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<v Speaker 8>suppose you've heard that. You know, when he was young,

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<v Speaker 8>about fourth or fifth grade, one of the neighbor ladies said,

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<v Speaker 1>And here we are, Well, tell us is it like that?

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<v Speaker 1>he still does what do you do two or three

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<v Speaker 1>masses a week and you still get these crowds. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you do great homilies?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes? And Saturday Monday, And now I will on Tuesday

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<v Speaker 6>Going to India for a month, so I'm going to

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<v Speaker 8>Days a week, one of which would be one of

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, nobody does better with those, which is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons you pack the church. But what do

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I want to see him be able to identify

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<v Speaker 8>the same thing in the church. Now, if he can

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<v Speaker 8>keep everybody happy and moving forward. That'll be quite an accomplishment,

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<v Speaker 8>going to be right pretty well in the middle. And

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<v Speaker 8>I think, you know, unity will be big for him

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<v Speaker 8>and for things that are important he will speak out on.

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<v Speaker 8>So he's already said, you know, things that immigration. He's

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<v Speaker 8>he's not going to be a firebrand for one side

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<v Speaker 8>or another. He just wants to take care of his people.

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<v Speaker 8>He spent a lot of time with poor people, especially

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<v Speaker 8>in Peru, for you know, thirty some years, so he

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<v Speaker 8>has a missionary background and he'll never forget that. He'll

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<v Speaker 8>always be thinking about people in need. Yes, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's awesome, and hey, really appreciate your time, and

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<v Speaker 1>But thanks and ate. What's the what's the homily about

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend? Have you started to write it yet?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I'm looking I'm trying to look for an opening

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<v Speaker 8>story on the the different scripture things, but I'm not Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Don't Plus, you don't want to spoiler alert. Right if

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<v Speaker 6>But here you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hey, thank you really appreciate the time. You're very well, Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we're taking a lot of pride in our fellow

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<v Speaker 8>Chicago and the Pope. It's a real it's an honor

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<v Speaker 8>for the country, and it's an honor especially for our

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<v Speaker 1>The White Side. It's the only thing they got going

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<v Speaker 1>for him except the Rockies. Right, thanks again? You too

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<v Speaker 1>that his father O. He is really tremendous. He is great.

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<v Speaker 5>What is in the capitalist genes that man is not

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety three man, I'm telling you no way he'll live

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<v Speaker 1>to one hundred and ninety three. He sounds like, oh yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 1>He's sharp as a tack. Sharp is attack. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you'd be better. He is. He's just he's

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<v Speaker 1>a super smart guy. He's deeply cares. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't agree always politically, I mean, so it makes for

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<v Speaker 1>to caring for the poor and helping others. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>he has done that, sixty seven years of it and

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<v Speaker 1>the single greatest nine to one one call you have

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<v Speaker 2>The United States has headed in the wrong direction in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of immigration. That this is a total injustice to

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<v Speaker 1>I just hope.

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<v Speaker 9>Others, you know, here overseas and it doesn't turn political

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<v Speaker 9>because you know, oh he's an American, he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully that doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 9>And it just keep the nationalities, nationalism out of it,

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<v Speaker 9>and let's just be the Catholic Church.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Interesting. I know people are expecting friction between the

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<v Speaker 1>President and the Pope on immigration. I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, did you see the video, Ryan, there's video

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<v Speaker 1>of the pope, you know, as he was a cardinal recently,

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<v Speaker 1>just just talking about how wait a second, this unfettered

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm paraphrasing, immigration is a problem. It's a challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>We just have to, you know, and I'm paraphrasing, just

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<v Speaker 1>respect everybody's basic humanity, treat people humanly. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't expect in any way, shape or form that we're

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<v Speaker 1>all borders have to be open. I think we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a pope who takes that the same really

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<v Speaker 1>wise approach that the Catholic Bishops of Colorado have taken,

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<v Speaker 1>which is respecting the inherent human dignity of everybody, regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of whether they're here legally or not. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's a common sense kind of approach,

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<v Speaker 1>but the starting point will be it all comes back to, right.

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's it's the Pope or any of the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of us, you carry the mail. You can't change what's

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<v Speaker 1>what would Jesus do? What would Jesus do in this

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<v Speaker 1>same situation. That that's whether you're the Pope, whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>a priest like my uncle father Rogrew who just joined

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<v Speaker 1>us in the last segment and has been a priest

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<v Speaker 1>for sixty seven years, wherever you are in the high hierarchy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it all comes down to that same simple thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I really don't expect I mean, listen, the Pope

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<v Speaker 1>is going to speak and then bluntly and clearly when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to immigration, but I don't expect that that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to cause any kind of rift with the President.

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<v Speaker 1>And what it comes down to is, my Lord, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got two people in the Pope and President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>who have the most profound and broadest kind of common

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<v Speaker 1>ground when it comes to Catholic teaching. You know, blessed

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<v Speaker 1>are the peacemakers and the inherent dignity of human life.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have not had a better president in our

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<v Speaker 1>lifetimes when it comes to the unborn and protecting the unborn.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the foundational issue for the church as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has been the best pro life president in American history.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when it comes to peacemakers, he's a piece

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<v Speaker 1>or strength guy. But we have an edititor peacemaker and

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<v Speaker 1>so Ano there is so much common grond between the two.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you think I'll go to the Vatican, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>oh absolutely, and he was.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we have the sound of him expressing great

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<v Speaker 5>celebration over the fact that we will have the first

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<v Speaker 5>ever American pope. And of course, Dan, the first person

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<v Speaker 5>I thought of was you, and that he's coming out

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<v Speaker 5>of Chicago and your remarkable uncle in that previous segment,

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<v Speaker 5>just so exciting, Like you said, such a great moment

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<v Speaker 5>for the city.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, the whole city. Yeah, And how cool that is.

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<v Speaker 1>And in a lot of ways, I think it's really

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate just because Chicago it's a city of workers. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a city of working people. I know it has its

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<v Speaker 1>crazy crime and everything else because lefty policies, but its

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<v Speaker 1>core and its history is a city of hard workers,

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<v Speaker 1>city of broad shoulders. And it's just it's really appropriate because,

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<v Speaker 1>just like I've been saying for years, for the Republican

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<v Speaker 1>Party to win and to matter, it has to be

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<v Speaker 1>the party of the working people, and it has to

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<v Speaker 1>truly deliver for working people. The church, you go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the core, you go back to Jesus. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>who did Jesus choose to be his twelve apostles? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't up there in the c suite pulling people

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<v Speaker 1>out right. Well, no, you're talking to the workers, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys who are out there doing the fishing and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm really glad that we have a pope

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<v Speaker 1>from that kind of background. Very similar, right, my friend

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<v Speaker 1>to Pope John Paul the Great, Yes, and very very similar.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, I just could not be more excited,

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<v Speaker 1>not just because hey, I think he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a super good pope, and because he's from Chicago and

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<v Speaker 1>the American thing and and all of that. I just think.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think we're moving in the right direction when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to commitment to you know, working people, when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to a commitment to the poor, because when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at President Trump, his policies, his policies are

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<v Speaker 1>going to do so much more for the poor than

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats, because the Democratic prop policies that they have

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<v Speaker 1>to keep a very large number of poor people. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the secular left that runs the party knows that once

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<v Speaker 1>people start making seventy grand or more, a majority are

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<v Speaker 1>going to vote Republican. The very existence of the Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>Party depends on keeping a lot of people from making

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<v Speaker 1>more money. So I just and it took me a

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<v Speaker 1>while to know that when I was a Democrat, I

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<v Speaker 1>was a Democrat for very noble reasons, because I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that party was the best vehicle to serve the poor

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<v Speaker 1>and protect the weak in defense as those without a voice,

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<v Speaker 1>and to have equal opportunity for working people, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just saw the Democratic Party as the best

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle for that. I never in a million years, my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>would have thought the Republican Party would be a better vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>Once I became a Republican, I came to understand that

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<v Speaker 1>it is m hm. So I just like between the

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<v Speaker 1>President and the Pope. I'm not saying in that order.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like where the world's headed right now.

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<v Speaker 5>I've got a text here and I got a post

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<v Speaker 5>on X along these lines, asking about you, because I

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<v Speaker 5>think the Texter slash listener knows that I am not

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<v Speaker 5>Catholic personally.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Protestant, but I thought we changed that.

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<v Speaker 7>No, I don't think I qualified.

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<v Speaker 5>But please ask him, meaning your uncle, what he thinks

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<v Speaker 5>about the Trump Pope picture. Did he get a laugh

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<v Speaker 5>or find it unacceptable? What did you think of?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? You know, I'm going to call him during the

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<v Speaker 1>break and ask him that. Sure, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably like most people who thought it was in

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<v Speaker 1>bad taste. And I laughed my head off, you know. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I listen, President Trump has been so great for Catholics,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's been so great for the Catholic Church. You

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<v Speaker 1>have Joe Biden and these lefties out there literally persecuting Catholics,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sending the FBI to their home, rating Catholics,

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<v Speaker 1>putting Catholics in jail. I mean that the Biden administration

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<v Speaker 1>and the secutor left that runs a Democratic party is

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<v Speaker 1>so openly hostile toward Catholics, the Catholic Church, religious freedom.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, how could that be when Joe Biden was the

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<v Speaker 5>second ever Catholic president?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Oh boy, yeah right? I mean, but it

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<v Speaker 1>just goes back to it just goes back to so

522
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<v Speaker 1>many people have sold themselves for power. So many people

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<v Speaker 1>have been willing to betray everything for power, betray their faith,

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<v Speaker 1>betray their God so they can get and keep power.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, I'm the furthest thing from a perfect Catholic.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the point. But when you talk about people

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<v Speaker 1>like Joe Biden, I mean, how many people have just

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<v Speaker 1>decided to forsake their very faith to get and keep

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<v Speaker 1>power in the Democratic Party? Possible? There are so many

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't count them. I think we have some Pelosi

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<v Speaker 1>sound here, right? We got to play that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she may be exhibited even even before Biden.

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<v Speaker 10>Do you think that at this moment, when so many

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<v Speaker 10>people are looking to him he could be impactful as

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<v Speaker 10>a moral and ethical voice on that issue that we're

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<v Speaker 10>dealing with, when so many people are being mass supported

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<v Speaker 10>or fear it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I certainly hope so. And from his comments previous

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<v Speaker 4>to being elected the Pope. He has made clear what

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<v Speaker 4>his values and his view of all of that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but do you think she cares at all what

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<v Speaker 1>the Pope's view on abortion is. She's devoted all over

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<v Speaker 1>God given talents and opportunities and platforms and her whole

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<v Speaker 1>professional life to undermining the core teaching of the Catholic Church.

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<v Speaker 1>Her obsession has been abortion on demand till the moment

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<v Speaker 1>of delivery. So you think she cares a wit about

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<v Speaker 1>what the Pope says on the fundamental civil rights issue

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<v Speaker 1>of our lifetime. No, but that's just the point, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, I am a very flawed Catholic and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the furthest thing from perfect. But when we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>politics and people who made that cold, deliberate decision, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>do I turn my back on my faith, my very

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<v Speaker 1>faith so I can get and keep power in the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party. There are a whole lot of those. You're

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<v Speaker 1>on the Dan Kapla.

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<v Speaker 7>Show and now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>When it was this good, right, so many reasons to

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<v Speaker 1>be optimistic, and the new Pope just one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Three or three someone three or two five five takes

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<v Speaker 1>d an five seven seven three nine. Some Texters not

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Dan, I especially like this pope and that

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<v Speaker 1>he was only involved in a small way with the

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<v Speaker 1>child sex cover up. I would love to understand someday

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<v Speaker 1>where this irrational anti Catholic hate comes from, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>I truly what I mean that, I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>understand it. And I'd love to have a true conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with one of the haters because I just don't get that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm pretty darn sure I could convince them otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>if we had a chance to have the conversation. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, totally bogus allegation, But second, why do

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<v Speaker 1>some people, why do some people just want to completely

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<v Speaker 1>deny it, just and close their eyes to the overwhelming

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<v Speaker 1>amount of good. I mean, no matter what your own

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<v Speaker 1>religious beliefs are, and you know that's you're right, But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just talking about in the trench is good that

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<v Speaker 1>the Catholic Church, including this Pope, have done for the

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<v Speaker 1>poor over the years. And I'm not going to preach

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<v Speaker 1>on this, but we all know it's true. Literally, Denver,

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado would fall apart tomorrow without Catholic charities. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>that simple. Northern Colorado right now, Catholic charity is so involved.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm biased, I'm a board member, but it also gives

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<v Speaker 1>me knowledge, and I'm just telling you it would fall

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<v Speaker 1>apart without Catholic charities and Catholic charity. He's taking care

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<v Speaker 1>of probably a whole lot more non Catholic people than

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic people, but the poor in the trenches, the really

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<v Speaker 1>dirty work. So yeah, I'd love to understand this hates

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<v Speaker 1>some day because it really should be the opposite. And listen,

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<v Speaker 1>no human institution, no human is ever going to be perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only been one human and divine. But so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying the Catholic Church has been perfect, Clearly it hasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>No human enterprise ever has been. But you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the good, the massive amount of good over hundreds of years,

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<v Speaker 1>hard to top it. Let's go to Warren in beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado Springs. Had the pleasure of being in trial down

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<v Speaker 1>there this week and loved every minute of it. Warren,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing well?

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<v Speaker 3>Spent a lot of time since I talked. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>such a month anyway, But I've learned a lot since then.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got the time to do it. You probably don't

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<v Speaker 3>be in busy guys. You are, but I learned a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of information off see me because I've got the time. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>anniversary of European War in Europe brings a point I

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<v Speaker 3>want to talk to you. Tell you about. There was

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<v Speaker 3>approximately four hundred thousand Americans that were killed as a

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<v Speaker 3>result of World War Two. Many of those were accidents

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<v Speaker 3>in this country and somewhat over three hundred and some

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<v Speaker 3>thousand in combat. But for every American that was killed

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<v Speaker 3>as a result of World War Two, there are proximately

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred and fifty Americans alive in nineteen forty five

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<v Speaker 3>in this country. Now the Russians, this is going to

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<v Speaker 3>surprise you. For every Russian that has lost his life

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<v Speaker 3>as the result of the German army invading Russia, there

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<v Speaker 3>was only seven Russians alive. Seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't heard that.

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<v Speaker 3>So the question is almost every family lost somebody, almost

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<v Speaker 3>every family. But the question arise, is do the Russians,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not talking about just Peuten, I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the overall mass of the Russian people have a reason

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<v Speaker 3>to be paranoid about military on the boter And my

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<v Speaker 3>answer to that is yes, they're theurotically paranoid about it,

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<v Speaker 3>and they've got a reason to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but they don't have a reason. They then go

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<v Speaker 1>rape and pillage a neighbor.

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<v Speaker 3>They were provoked into that, No, they weren't. You got

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<v Speaker 3>to study it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have studied it. You're telling me it's a provocation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a It's definitely in the interesting time because it's

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<v Speaker 1>stock radio contested.

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<v Speaker 3>Every move they made, they were protested, and they wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to talked about it, and we just wanted to shove

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<v Speaker 3>it down their throat because every time the country got

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<v Speaker 3>the joy NAT or they bought, the military equivalent was

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<v Speaker 3>produced by the industrial military complex of this country, and

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<v Speaker 3>we provoked that.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think they didn't go in when Trump

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<v Speaker 1>was president?

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<v Speaker 3>Why didn't they go in when Trump was president? I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that. I think they were relating to see

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<v Speaker 3>what was going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Happen, But because they knew at that point the risk

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<v Speaker 1>was too high, Right, they weren't going to go in

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<v Speaker 1>if if NATO was going to fight back. They weren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to go in if America was going to fight back. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the only reason they went in was the weakness

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<v Speaker 1>of Joe Biden and the weakness of Barack Obama before him.

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<v Speaker 8>None, no, no word.

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<v Speaker 1>Then why And I understand that you do warrant, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay to have your own opinion, you can't have

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<v Speaker 1>your own facts. The facts are when Obama was president,

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<v Speaker 1>they went in, they took Crimea. When Trump was president,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't go in at all. When Biden was president,

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<v Speaker 1>they then went in and raked and pillaged the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>So why didn't they go in when Trump was there?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, on two eight they weren't because if you try

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<v Speaker 3>to move NATO into the end of Ukraine, Ukraine is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be destroyed. We want to discuss this with you,

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<v Speaker 3>and we just shoved it down their throat. We said,

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<v Speaker 3>you're a weak We don't care what you think. Control

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<v Speaker 3>of that time and time again. Isn't you think there's

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<v Speaker 3>people just touching the Wan that knew that they would

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<v Speaker 3>do that way and wanted that war.

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't a true warrant that The reason that Russia

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go into Ukraine when Trump was president is that

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<v Speaker 1>whatever perceived threat from Ukraine was not great enough to

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<v Speaker 1>justify a military invasion unless it was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>quick and easy like Crimea. And they thought that this

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be quick and easy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know the only thing that I can say

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<v Speaker 3>about that is the guy that Trump hired to an

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<v Speaker 3>advisor to his fat tector defense was with Colonel Douglas McGregor,

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<v Speaker 3>the other Royce whipped. He says about it, and he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't helping Trump would change his tune to what is

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<v Speaker 3>going on. But who knows where this is going to

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<v Speaker 3>go now. But the other thing I was going to

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<v Speaker 3>mention to you is the Mexican barter. Uh. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>going to give you a hypothetical real quickly. Remember, things

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<v Speaker 3>are getting pretty warm when proser Reagan was that he

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<v Speaker 3>called the Russian evil Empire, and people were, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the push to build this, the web, the rockets and

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<v Speaker 3>everything was going. I'm pretty good. The Cold War was

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<v Speaker 3>heating up. What Mexico would elected a president It was

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<v Speaker 3>real hostile to the United States, almost like Venezuela. And

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<v Speaker 3>they got so bad that he asked.

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<v Speaker 1>What, Wren, We literally have fifteen seconds if the question

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<v Speaker 1>is okay, if we have a hostile president on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side, does that and justify invading, raping, and pillaging. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it does self defense, yes, but what

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<v Speaker 1>Russia's doing is satanic evil you're on the dan Kapla show,
