WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:01.639 Oh thats are. 2 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:49.119 Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult 3 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:53.399 of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan and today Jacob 4 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:57.240 is running a little bit late, but that's okay. We're 5 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:00.280 gonna hold down the house over here. A lot of 6 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:03.640 our favorite people are in the house. What up, Jamie, 7 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:08.120 Honey Badger, Electronic, Nick Uh the Spirit Animal of course, 8 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:11.359 what up, Jake and everybody else. Nice to see all 9 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:14.599 of y'all. Alexandra, you know, I mean, I'm sorry that 10 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:16.400 we're late. I was trying to hold out for Jacob. 11 00:01:16.760 --> 00:01:19.239 I'm sure he's got something going on. I'm sure he'll 12 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:22.799 be joining here really soon. But that's all right. We're 13 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:30.280 gonna get the show rolling. Harg What up? Royce Mario said, 14 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:32.560 Good evening, y'all. It's good to be back in Texas. 15 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:35.680 Hope y'all are well. It is nice to be in Texas, dude, 16 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:38.599 It's it's good over here. I I actually do really 17 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:41.400 enjoy being living in Texas, and I've thought about it 18 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:43.239 going back and forth. Am I gonna be moving back 19 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:45.560 to Louisiana? Am I gonna be staying here? You know 20 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:49.840 that whole thing. I'm gonna be honest. I'm actually kind 21 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:53.959 of leaning towards staying here because it's just let's go. 22 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:54.840 It's just better. 23 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:57.239 That's just that's the thing. And you know you ain't 24 00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:00.480 got full on swamp assen fucking Louisiana. Yeah, there's a 25 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:02.680 lot of humidity and it's hotter than hell over here. 26 00:02:03.079 --> 00:02:05.359 But it's a nice change up. You know where I 27 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:08.919 was living in Louisiana where Jacob lives. You know, it's 28 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:12.479 I just live there too long. I know pretty much 29 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:16.280 everybody over there, and uh, there's nothing new over here, dude. 30 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:18.479 There's so many damn people that live in Houston and 31 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:19.840 Katie and everything. 32 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:20.879 I love it. 33 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:22.800 You never know what you're gonna run into every day. 34 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:24.960 But I will say, I am pretty fucking tired of 35 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:28.120 going to a Walmart and everybody asking me for a handout. 36 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:30.479 I'm just gonna throw that out there. Nick. Do you 37 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:32.599 do you experience that on a on a daily basis 38 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:34.240 or is that a Katie Houston thing? 39 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:39.319 Katie Houston thing. Yeah, conversation is uh, it's like pretty chill. 40 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:43.159 Yeah. Well, and I'm not even saying that I'll stay 41 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:47.520 in Katie because there's some things that may be transpiring. 42 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:49.680 I don't want to get I don't want to jump 43 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:52.360 the gun. I'm just gonna say that I'm not limited 44 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:55.240 to staying here. I am limited to staying in Katie 45 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:58.840 right now, just because my my lease isn't up until 46 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:03.159 like early on two or something like that. But yeah, 47 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:05.879 once my lease is up, dude, I'm sticking to the plan. 48 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:07.719 I'm gonna go get an r V and I'm gonna 49 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:10.039 just live that RV life. And I'm gonna get one 50 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:13.199 of those oh what do they call the the Elon 51 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:18.159 Musk satellites. Darlink, Yes, starlink and uh and I'm just 52 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:21.360 gonna fucking do the whole Tom Green thing. Dude, just 53 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:22.840 just travel everywhere, you know. 54 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:26.000 Me, Me and my wife lived in my RV for 55 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:29.520 like two or three years, so before if you're whenever 56 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:32.159 you're shopping and or whenever you decide if you're looking 57 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:34.680 for any kind of pointers or anything, we literally full 58 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:36.879 time RV for I mean a few years. 59 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:39.599 So did y'all have a what kind? Did y'all have 60 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:42.000 a type C or C class? What it's called? 61 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:45.280 Uh? So I had a forty five foot fifth wheel. 62 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:47.120 That's a big old bitch. 63 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:49.039 Yeah, I pulled it behind my truck, so it was 64 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.919 like the fifth wheel toy hauler, like the big Raptor 65 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:55.960 Keyston Raptor, and uh yeah it was a big bitch, 66 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:57.840 but it was the pool behind. 67 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:02.719 So yeah, well and that's probably yeah, I'm looking at 68 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:07.000 getting the driving one for sure, because first off, I 69 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:09.240 don't have a truck. I just have a charger, and 70 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:13.599 I'm not hooking, you know, a twenty four. I'm really 71 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:16.199 just looking at the twenty four footer. You know, it's 72 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:18.839 not it's not too big, it's not too small. It's 73 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:23.279 got the overhead like above the cabin, and it's perfect 74 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:27.480 for what I need, you know. So I actually went 75 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:31.720 and looked at one of them like a month or 76 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:33.920 a month and a half ago, and I went over 77 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:36.759 to this place called Camping World or camper World or 78 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:40.240 something like that, and dude, those brand new ones are 79 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.079 so sick. And the way I was looking at it 80 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:46.199 is it's like, all right, well, either way, whenever this 81 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:48.680 lease is up, I'm either gonna you know, put a 82 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:52.319 put you know something down for a house. I've never 83 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:56.319 owned a house before, or I can just get one 84 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:59.319 of these you know RVs. It's gonna be the same thing. 85 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:01.800 And actually the V is way cheaper than a house. 86 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:03.519 Obviously no property taxes either. 87 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:06.360 Hey, no property tax I ain't got a mailbox, you 88 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:07.040 know what I'm saying. 89 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:11.560 We were talking about getting a smaller one again like 90 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:14.360 now that like the place that we've got is like 91 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:17.480 pretty decent on rent here, and then we're we're like, man, 92 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:20.399 we want to get a driving RV ones and kind 93 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:21.199 of do the same thing. 94 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:22.959 And it just it's. 95 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:25.000 So cool just to be able to just go where 96 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:27.240 the fuck you want and like, you know, it's a vibe. 97 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:30.120 Oh dude, they're so badass. And yeah, it was a 98 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:31.879 it was a while ago whenever I was still trying 99 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:33.920 to make the decision, and I had, uh, I had 100 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:38.519 chat Gypt draw me uh an image of just me 101 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:41.560 in my r V and then or not in the 102 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:44.399 r V but like sitting like have it out parked 103 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:47.279 by a leg or something like that and with me 104 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:49.480 and my and my two kids just staring at the 105 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:51.759 leg and the sunset's going down. I got that image 106 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:54.160 and I was like, I'm sold, Like I that's that's 107 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:57.560 the only vision I needed. So dude, Chatty Chatchept. I 108 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.279 know Jacob and everybody else is not a super huge 109 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:01.839 fan of AI and stuff like that. 110 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.639 But if you use it for what you know, in 111 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:07.240 the best way, that it's really helpful. 112 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:10.199 No, for real, you ain't gotta tell me, you know, 113 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:11.480 I've been on it for a minute, so. 114 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:13.240 You're actually the one that got me on it. 115 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:14.480 Yeah. 116 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:17.160 No, it's see, especially if you like, you know, like 117 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:20.000 just tell it everything that you wanted to fucking you know, 118 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:22.160 get to know you and then it's you know, it'll 119 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:25.519 give you recommendations based off of like, you know, whatever 120 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:28.800 you know, think, whatever it thinks you would like to 121 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:31.480 know kind of sometimes like I ask mine, I tell 122 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:34.199 it to, I have it like saved in my memory 123 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:37.360 to like ask me clarifying questions as well, like you 124 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:40.120 can you can say, you know, ask me questions to 125 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:43.639 clarify or like expand on these things you know in 126 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.120 the future, and like it's just kind of tailor made. 127 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:46.680 It's awesome. 128 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:50.680 Oh dude, it's great. And I actually use it to 129 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:52.720 to like, you know, make a bunch of short clips 130 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:55.720 for the shows and stuff like that. It's very helpful. 131 00:06:56.600 --> 00:06:59.360 But yeah, so yeah, just waiting on Jacob. I don't 132 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:02.319 know what the hell's going all with him. I texted 133 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:05.199 him and we have somebody else that's also reaching out 134 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:06.480 to him, so we'll see. 135 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:07.360 Maybe his phone died. 136 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:10.480 Maybe you know, maybe he's on the phone with somebody important. 137 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:13.319 Who knows. But anyway, we're gonna keep this party going, baby, 138 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:16.399 So just getting back over the top. Thank you everybody 139 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:19.160 for joining tonight. It's very nice to see all of y'all. 140 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:25.000 Alexander said, latest, fuck assholes, JK, what's up, faggots. I 141 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:27.639 look forward to that message every Tuesday. I'm gonna I'm 142 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:29.560 gonna be real with you. It gives me a little 143 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:31.959 bit of a leeway, you know, because I'm just reading it. 144 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:34.560 I'm not saying it. I'm not calling anybody yet. It's 145 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:36.959 just a word, you know. I'm free. I'm in the 146 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:39.680 clear whenever somebody says that. At least that's how I 147 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:43.759 look at it. Anthony said, good evening, fellas and folks. 148 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:45.639 What up, Anthony. We got to get you back on 149 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:47.959 the show, dude, either on Meta or on the Cult, 150 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:51.279 because I love all that Norse shit. I get down 151 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:55.040 with all that Norse stuff, you know. Actually, a fun fact, 152 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:58.040 me and Sean, I think we did an episode on 153 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.920 the Norse Runs like a while back, like a year ago, 154 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:07.040 and actually, my first ever like tarot slash oracle deck 155 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:09.199 thing that I ever got was in New Orleans on 156 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:11.600 Bourbon and it was like that was the one that 157 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:13.879 I was just drawn to, dude, was the Norse one 158 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:16.959 with all the ruins and stuff. And we did a 159 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:19.920 show on that and I can't remember what it was, 160 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:22.000 but it was like, I don't know it, it was 161 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.160 a pretty awesome episode. And then the reading and all 162 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:25.680 that stuff. I don't know. I don't know if y'all 163 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:27.439 are into all that tarot shit that's more of a 164 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:28.240 meadow thing. 165 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:28.279 But. 166 00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:30.879 Thought it was really good. 167 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:32.600 Yeah, yeah, thank. 168 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:35.919 You, dude, thank you. The Spirit Animals said was scared 169 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:40.240 you didn't want to make Tuesdays great again. First of all, 170 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:43.120 I don't think Tuesdays ever were great until we started 171 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.879 doing the live shows, all right. So that's the way 172 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:48.840 I look at it. It's that Tuesday's always sucked. It's 173 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:51.600 literally the day whenever somebody's like trying to think of 174 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:54.279 the most random day, people always say a Tuesday because 175 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:57.000 it's the most random, boring, nothing is going on type 176 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:02.879 of day, you know. So, yeah, we we have made 177 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:07.240 Tuesdays great again. I would say, uh har g posted 178 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:10.720 a meme here if Jesus had died on a guillotine. 179 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:13.960 You say guillotine or guillotine. I've heard it said both ways. 180 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:16.440 Guillotine. 181 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:20.360 Oh my god, that is hilarious. Everybody be rocking the 182 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:22.200 necklace of the of the guillotine. 183 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:23.399 Yeah. 184 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:26.120 I always thought that that was so strange, dude, Like, 185 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:28.840 you know, of all the good things, like, how about 186 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:31.480 a fucking how about a little emblem of him like 187 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:36.159 making bread or or you know, something awesome of him 188 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:39.519 putting hands and healing somebody, or of him like healing 189 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:42.000 somebody of their blindness. How about a good deed, like 190 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:45.279 some magical thing that he's done. But no, it's always 191 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:48.279 just like it's almost it's damn near a death cult. 192 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:49.600 That's the way I look at it. And I know 193 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:51.559 some people are going to disagree with that, but that's okay. 194 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:59.919 Spirit animals said, we don't lick people lies adults tell kids. Yeah, 195 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:03.120 I mean, I'm not licking everybody, But you know how 196 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:07.679 that is one hundred men versus one gorilla. In Cincinnati, 197 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:10.240 a single child took out a gorilla in twenty sixteen. 198 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:15.159 Oh dicks out for harambe. Yeah, it's a sad story. 199 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:19.039 I want to live in a van down by the river. 200 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:24.360 Spirit Animal said classic Chris Farley. I actually thought about 201 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:26.759 that too. I was like, dude, I watch so much 202 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:29.360 Chris Farley that it's literally manifesting in my life. That's 203 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:31.639 what's going on. And then eventually I'm gonna wind up 204 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:33.799 in somebody's living room. I'm gonna tell them why they 205 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:36.000 shouldn't be smoking doobies, and I'm gonna slam myself through 206 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:38.519 their fucking through their table, you know what I mean? 207 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:42.840 Rip to one of the best. Oh you want to 208 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:45.960 hear a fun story? Is uh uh Sean? 209 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.039 Who I Sean? That? You know? 210 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:51.559 My cousin from Meta Mysteries. I always said that he 211 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:53.840 reminded me so much of Chris Farley, just like a 212 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:56.759 lot of his manuysms and like his way of being funny. 213 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:00.279 He's more of like that physical kind of funny. And 214 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:02.879 and then you find out they have the same birthday. 215 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:08.600 The fuck strange, right, Tony said, One of our friends 216 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:13.480 did RV life for years with six kids and loved it. Cool. 217 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:16.919 They have one hundred footer or what, because that's a lot. 218 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:21.279 It seems like it seems very freeing though, like I've 219 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:24.360 looked into it pretty pretty deeply as far as uh 220 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:28.759 like uh, all the all the different like parks and 221 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:32.000 stuff that you can go camp at, and like camping sites, 222 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:34.919 and even like boon docking, which I know some people 223 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:36.879 probably wouldn't be a huge fan of that, but boon 224 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:39.000 docking is essentially like just going out in the middle 225 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:41.080 of fucking nowhere. You don't have anywhere to hook your 226 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:44.559 water or your sewage or your electricity or anything like 227 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:46.039 that up. So if you want to just go out 228 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:49.879 in the middle of Nevada somewhere and just park it 229 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.480 and just see what happens, you know, just get out 230 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:55.639 there and be one with nature. That sounds awesome but 231 00:11:55.679 --> 00:11:57.320 also kind of scary because what if you run out 232 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:00.159 of gas? You know, maybe maybe not do it for 233 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:04.559 very long. Spirit Animal said, when you're the only guy 234 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:08.840 in the nursing home with a Viager prescription, they call 235 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:11.360 me Pearl Harbor because this dick is Bomba's fuck. 236 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:13.360 I love it. 237 00:12:14.519 --> 00:12:20.600 Hey, no true story here. My grandfather, who is is it? Widowed? 238 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:23.919 Also if the man is widowed, it's still the same thing. 239 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:27.360 So he's widowed, and and so he was living with 240 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:29.639 my aunt for the longest time, and then he was 241 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:32.080 like begging her to get put into a nursing home. 242 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:34.080 Turns out the only reason he wanted to go to 243 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:36.759 a nursing home was just to go get some ass. 244 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:41.120 That was like the reason I'm like you, horny, old bastard. 245 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:46.240 I get it, I do get it, Jamie said, owning 246 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:50.200 a house sucks. I imagine that owning a lot of 247 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:53.039 things probably has, you know, a lot of its downfalls. 248 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:58.159 Hey, his name and he is, Hey, what I believe 249 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:00.000 in Joe injury? 250 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:00.759 Hey Joe Jr. 251 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:01.399 Let's go. 252 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:05.840 Yeah. I don't know how I feel about Joe Hendry, 253 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:07.240 to be honest with you, but I think that he's 254 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:09.759 gonna be making a lot more cameo appearances in WWE. 255 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:11.519 Actually he is. 256 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:15.960 He has now signed a contract with WW for five years. 257 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:18.679 But he's both in WW and TNA now. And he 258 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:20.759 just lost the TNA World Championship. 259 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:23.600 Oh it's about to happen then, Yeah. 260 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:27.440 No, he lost it to Trick Williams on NXT Battlegrounds. 261 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:34.519 Oh really that's interesting. Yeah, uh, Matthew said, what a 262 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:36.639 boys can't wait for two weeks from now? I have 263 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:38.960 one more person who should join the conversation. When the 264 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:42.919 time comes, this guy will blow you away. Ex bar lawyer, 265 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:48.600 United Humanity Movement. Hook us up, let's do it. We're 266 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:51.200 we're down with having all these kind of conversations. I mean, look, 267 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:55.279 we had one stupid fuck on three times. And I 268 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:58.159 mean Jacob's not really I mean we're a fan obviously 269 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:03.080 of the the stupid fuck himself because he's a great guy. 270 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:05.480 I think he's actually hilarious, Like the way that he 271 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:08.159 portrays all of his information, Like that's the best way 272 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:10.320 to get people to learn is whenever you're like having 273 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:11.919 a good time with it. So I love the angle 274 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:14.600 that he takes, especially if you go to his website. 275 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:18.679 He's like, dude, there's so many funny things on his website. 276 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:20.919 He's like, you know, sign up for my course or 277 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:23.759 go fuck yourself. It's like, oh my god, what a 278 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:24.799 way of selling shit. 279 00:14:25.840 --> 00:14:26.320 Jonathan. 280 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:29.759 This guy, he he's a actual he was a lawyer. 281 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:33.120 He's seventy years old, he's from Alabama, and. 282 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:38.159 He knows everything Brandon knows. I mean I was talking 283 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:41.720 to him. I even asked him if he was hip 284 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:44.120 to Brandon. He said yeah, and I can teach what 285 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:46.600 he does in an hour and twenty minutes. 286 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:48.799 In five damn all right. 287 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:53.679 He sent me an email. He's trying to help Christine Golbertie, 288 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:55.799 the woman that I'm going to bring on your show. 289 00:14:56.679 --> 00:14:57.320 Oh that's right. 290 00:14:57.440 --> 00:15:01.279 Yeah, yeah, So he knows the law side of what 291 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:02.399 is going on, and I. 292 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:05.159 Think he'd be a great addition to the conversation. 293 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:10.159 Okay, he sent me emails with different documents he's drawn 294 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:13.200 up with all the different codes that makes everything. 295 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:14.600 That our government do illegal. 296 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.960 They're amazing documents and very well written, and I think 297 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:22.200 they have a lot of validity. Okay, you can come 298 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:25.559 on the show and explain that stuff in his movement eventually. Also, 299 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:27.480 I think it would make a great show. 300 00:15:27.519 --> 00:15:30.799 Dude, without a doubt. Yeah. We're open to hearing pretty 301 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.240 much anybody, like as long as they they have a 302 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:36.120 good idea about what they're talking about. I mean, you know, 303 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:40.480 especially with Brandon Williams, like he he knews. He knows 304 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:43.120 as shit like crazy up down, back and forth. He 305 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:45.720 knows the codes, he knows the exact websites, he knows 306 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:47.960 where to go exactly on his on his page and 307 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:51.720 on Google it. Like I love those extremely like balls, 308 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:54.320 deep into their knowledge type of people. Those are the 309 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:57.480 most fascinating people. So definitely getting somebody that like was 310 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:00.600 a part of the bar. Let's go, yeah, that's the 311 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:03.399 kind that's kind of people you want. You know, who 312 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:05.120 else I want? I want to get somebody to work 313 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:08.080 for NASA the believes of the Earth is flat. That's 314 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:09.879 what I want. And they do exist. By the way, 315 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:16.279 I my ex actually was friends with this one person. 316 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:18.200 Oh and she goes, so we go over to this 317 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:21.440 person's house and this is back I don't know, two 318 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:23.960 years ago or something like that, and she goes, all right, look, 319 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:26.919 just don't talk about conspiracies. Like whatever you do, don't 320 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:29.240 talk about conspiracies. We're just here to have a regular night. 321 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:32.679 We're having dinner with them and their parents, So just 322 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:35.960 keep it, you know, don't talk about vaccines, don't talk 323 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:38.600 about the matrix, don't talk about how anything's faking gay 324 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:41.120 or anything like that. And I was like, okay, okay, look, 325 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:43.360 I'm not somebody that's going to push this on anybody. 326 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:45.039 It's not like I just go up to random people 327 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:47.200 in Walmart and talk to them about nine to eleven. 328 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:50.679 You know, I'm not doing that. But if somebody starts 329 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:54.159 a conversation I mean, hey, they pushed that ball down 330 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:55.919 the hill. I'm just going to keep it rolling. I mean, 331 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:58.639 I'm just part of the momentum at that point. That's 332 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:00.320 the way I look at it. So anyway, I go 333 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:03.720 over there and this girl out of nowhere, she goes, oh, hey, 334 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:04.920 what do you do? And I said, oh, well, you know, 335 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:08.440 I have a podcast and talk about conspiracies and stuff 336 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:10.759 like that, and that's all I said. She goes, oh 337 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:12.279 my god, what do you think about flat Earth? And 338 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:14.279 I was like, dude, I think there might be some 339 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:16.279 shit to it, just you know, kind of being a 340 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:19.400 part of the conversation. And she's like, I'm telling you, 341 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:22.599 and then she starts naming fucking ae hundred reasons why 342 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:26.559 the Earth is flat, as they do, and yeah, it's fun. 343 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:29.799 So I feel like a lot of like normal regular 344 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:33.519 people are really coming around to a lot of conspiracies, 345 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:35.480 not all of them. You know, I don't get down 346 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:38.079 with every conspiracy, Jacob. I think it gets down with 347 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:41.079 maybe five percent of the conspiracies, so you know, you 348 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:44.759 don't have to be a full on, like crazy person 349 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:48.039 with it. But but yeah, I think that a lot 350 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:49.799 of people are really coming around to it. Oh, And 351 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:54.119 by the way, did you all see that recently they 352 00:17:54.440 --> 00:18:00.400 just made the COVID vaccine they don't allow kids or 353 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.240 pregnant women to take it, just passed yesterday. 354 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:05.400 I'm like, I saw that. 355 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:09.279 A little fucking late for that, bud, wouldn't you say? 356 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:13.000 But yeah, imagine like you you already got like your 357 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:17.119 seventh or eighth booster, and now they're like, oh, look, 358 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:20.000 we're not saying it's dangerous, but you shouldn't take it 359 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:21.799 if you're pregnant, and you shouldn't be given it to 360 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:26.799 your kids. Oh my god, they're burying themselves. 361 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:28.559 And I'd love to see it or if you're between 362 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:32.839 twenty five and sixty four next. 363 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:35.759 Right, right, Yeah, it's it's it's definitely bound to come. 364 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:38.200 And I hope that a lot of those vaccines end 365 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:41.079 up getting taken off because, dude, the more you look 366 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:44.440 into vaccines, and we've I mean, we have literally hammered 367 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:48.519 that nil a million ways, and you can see just 368 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:53.240 how dangerous and unnatural they are. And some people even 369 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:55.359 go as far as to say, like you remember whenever 370 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:58.720 the COVID vaccine was coming out that basically if you 371 00:18:58.839 --> 00:19:02.880 were to take that because because of I don't remember 372 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:06.240 the sequence within the chemicals, and because it was a 373 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:10.400 spike protein that essentially if you took it, then you're 374 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:14.680 you're now their property or you know, Pfizer's property or 375 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:18.200 the World Health Organization's property or something like that. And 376 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:19.599 you remember hearing about that, Nick. 377 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:24.000 Yeah, it's basically like the same thing as like pharmaceuticals 378 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:28.079 and like genetically modified like vegetables and stuff. Whenever they 379 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:31.039 engineer it, then they can patent it. And then because 380 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:35.079 they've altered it genetically, it's now a new thing. And 381 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:40.839 essentially because an mRNA vaccine, it like is altering your 382 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:44.920 DNA and you're now something new because of what you 383 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:46.440 had accepted. 384 00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:49.920 Right, Yeah, that's what it was. And you know, and 385 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:52.960 I think that to be honest, and I know that 386 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:55.279 there might be some new people that are like pretty 387 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:58.200 new to conspiracies in general, or new to how the 388 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:00.559 new world order really works. Maybe you don't need believe 389 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:02.359 that there's a new world order. Maybe you think it's 390 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:04.440 just a bunch of these individuals who are all evil 391 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:06.599 and greedy. No matter how you look at it, there 392 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:09.119 are a bunch of people who really don't care about you, 393 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:11.079 and they're looking just to make a dollar off of you. 394 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:13.759 And not only that there some of them are working together. 395 00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:17.160 You could, you know, you could say that they're all 396 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:21.359 working together to try and reduce the world's population. And 397 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:24.279 here's the thing. You know how you know this is 398 00:20:24.319 --> 00:20:29.119 because pharmaceutical companies they cannot patent what is already found 399 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:32.720 in nature, like and so they have to fuck with 400 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:35.160 the DNA sequence. They have to fuck with the genetic 401 00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:37.000 makeup in order to make it theirs, in order for 402 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:38.680 them to market it, in order for them to mark 403 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:41.519 up the price, right Like, That's how they're doing that. 404 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:43.759 That's why you're never gonna hear a doctor telling you 405 00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:46.000 that you should eat more vegetables. You never You're never 406 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:48.000 gonna hear a doctor say, oh, you know, you really 407 00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:50.119 need to get on a treadmill, because it's all this 408 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:54.920 body positivity bullshit nowadays, which literally is a form of brainwashing. 409 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:58.799 Like anybody, I mean, go go get your fucking blood 410 00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:01.880 pressure taken. I mean, tell me about your body positivity then, 411 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:05.400 you know, like we need to be healthier and we 412 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:07.680 don't need a pill for every single thing that's wrong 413 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:10.000 with us. You know, sometimes it's just it just calls 414 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:13.160 for drinking more water, eating healthier, Maybe go and exercise, 415 00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:15.279 do something, Go get in the pool and swim, they'll 416 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:18.599 do something. But you know, they just want to push 417 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:20.519 all the vaccines and stuff. And that's the thing. They're 418 00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:22.720 not going to make any money off of you from 419 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:24.920 you eating healthier. They're not going to make any money 420 00:21:24.920 --> 00:21:28.000 off of you from you going hitting the gym, or 421 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:29.799 they're not gonna make any money off of you from 422 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:34.799 getting natural ingredients that are found in nature. Right, Jamie, 423 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:37.799 what are your thoughts on that? Sir? Here comes the 424 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:40.160 old man fit. There's the old man face right there. 425 00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:45.720 I'm loving the stash though there. Dude, you son of a. 426 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:47.400 Bitch, You son of a bitch. 427 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:51.200 No, So, I actually I was a potner in fitness industry, 428 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:56.599 Like I had gyms several and one of the things. 429 00:21:56.480 --> 00:21:57.559 They just lied to you. 430 00:21:57.680 --> 00:22:01.279 They're like, hey, take this chemical, Hey take this chemical. 431 00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:04.319 Hey what if we stop taking chemicals and eat real shit? 432 00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:07.960 And that's why they kept the same to everyone. And dude, 433 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:12.759 I'm I'm just so all for just like holistic. 434 00:22:13.799 --> 00:22:15.799 As I smoked nicotine out of this thing and drinking 435 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:18.519 beer out of this thing. It's probably not healthy. Whatever, 436 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:19.880 we'll figure it out. 437 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:22.000 I mean, you got a blue pilt from time to time, 438 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:24.680 you know what I mean. I mean, look at me, dude, 439 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:27.160 I have a fucking blue tongue. Look man, where do 440 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:28.599 you think that game? Do you think it's natural? 441 00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:33.559 But the biggest thing is like, don't do drugs, you'll 442 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:33.960 be better. 443 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:40.559 You'll me what's that nig? Yes, that's what I said. 444 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:46.000 No, I'm just a mushrooms. Great you want to smoke weed? 445 00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:47.599 Great for me? 446 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:51.880 Not good? You know, I'm I'm weak with it. But 447 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:54.599 I'm just like, hey, just eat like real food. Just 448 00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:58.039 eat food like usual things that come out of the grass. 449 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:00.519 Just eat it. It's better for you. 450 00:23:01.079 --> 00:23:05.160 And that's the biggest thing that the food pyramid neglects 451 00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:08.880 is like, hey, just go outside, get some food, eat it. 452 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:10.279 Yeah. 453 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:13.240 Yeah, and well and literally in your front yard. You 454 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:15.279 know they talk about that, Uh what is it? The 455 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:18.000 the lettuce and the dandelions, about how all that shit 456 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:20.240 is literally cancer killing agents. 457 00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:20.599 Dude. 458 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:25.000 Like it's so insane what people do not do to 459 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:27.920 their bodies, Like, hey, go outside, go for a walk. 460 00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:30.720 Oh I'm stressed out, I have anxiety. Go outside, go 461 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:31.240 for a walk. 462 00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:34.160 Oh dude, go go to a pond and go rip 463 00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:35.680 some lip, baby, That's what I do. 464 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:40.039 Do packle lip, pack it your head, like you know 465 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:44.359 what I mean, Like it doesn't even matter. Just go outside, 466 00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:48.559 get vitamin D get sunburned, don't put on sunscreen. 467 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:53.559 Absolulu, dude, if you hear there's actually uh so we 468 00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:57.200 I can't remember what year it was, but I guess 469 00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:01.279 the people that regulate sunscreen and and products and stuff 470 00:24:01.319 --> 00:24:05.079 like that, they have not like updated what chemicals are 471 00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:08.039 good for you, literally since like eighty one or eighty two, 472 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:11.920 like something crazy. Literally the same shit that they were 473 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:14.039 putting on their bodies to prevent, you. 474 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:17.400 Know, the sunburn fifty fifty Just so we're clear. 475 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:20.759 Were fifty fucking years we've been using the same thing. 476 00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:21.200 Dude. 477 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:23.720 I never put sunscreen on my kids. I never put 478 00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:24.759 it on myself. 479 00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:27.519 Even dude, even before, even before, like I started the 480 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:29.359 whole conspiracy thing, I just knew that. 481 00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:32.240 There's like there's something so unnatural about it. We should 482 00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:34.599 be outside and getting Dude, you get a sunburn, who 483 00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:35.160 gets a fuck? 484 00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:37.440 You know what I'm saying. It peels right off. 485 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:38.680 Put some aloe on it. 486 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:39.319 You're good. 487 00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:41.799 You don't just suck it up? 488 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:45.240 What was that like, sunglasses, Like if you wear if 489 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:47.599 you wear sunglasses out in the sun, you get some 490 00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:50.799 burnt way easier because your eyes don't tell your skin 491 00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:54.319 to like stargulate. Yeah, yeah, it's like, hey, we're about 492 00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:55.759 to take in a lot of sun start you know, 493 00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:58.000 converting shit, the vitamin D and all that. And if 494 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:00.880 you have sunglasses on, it's like you're looking around the dark, 495 00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:02.359 you know, and just. 496 00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:06.960 Getting friede And that's the you know, literally your what 497 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:09.240 do they say, like your largest organ is your skin, 498 00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:12.519 you know, it's it's a it's an intelligent thing that 499 00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:15.400 is connected to the rest of all of your intelligent 500 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.880 functions in your body. And so if your eyes are 501 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:22.400 telling your body that it's like shady outside, you know, 502 00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:25.880 or it's it's almost fake time, or the sun's going 503 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:28.440 down or something like that, then your body is going 504 00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:29.880 to be like, oh, okay, I don't need to put my 505 00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:32.160 defense mechanism up. Then that's all. 506 00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:34.480 You know, It's so silly, but it makes perfect sense though, 507 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:35.240 it does. 508 00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:36.000 It actually does. 509 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:39.240 I've had to correct my girl on this, and we 510 00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:42.279 talked about last week. She's in the aatal you. 511 00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:42.759 Know, redhead. 512 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:44.640 Oh yeah, ginger, Ginger. 513 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:47.920 I was like don't put the sunglasses on. And she 514 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:51.960 was down here. So she's from Massachusetts, so she's super white. 515 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:55.559 And no offense to anybody that's white. It's just she's 516 00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:59.960 very pasty, right, So she comes down here. I live 517 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:04.240 in South Carolina, just so you guys know, and I 518 00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:05.960 was like, don't put on sunscreen. 519 00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:08.319 And she's like why, I'm like, just let your body 520 00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:08.759 get used to it. 521 00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:11.480 And she goes to put on sunglasses. I'm like, that's 522 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.960 bad for you. I'm like, your eyes need the red light. 523 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:16.839 Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna be real with you. 524 00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:19.119 I wear sunglasses, but not like if I'm out by 525 00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:20.920 the pool or if i'm tanning or something like that. 526 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:23.319 Like I'll wear sunglasses while I'm driving. That's really the 527 00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:25.039 main the main time I use sunglasses. 528 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:26.359 Glare. I get that. 529 00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:30.839 That's that's really it. Steph. What's up dude? By the way, 530 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.440 are you one hundred percent going to bro Grove this year? 531 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:34.799 Oh? 532 00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:36.640 Yeah, absolutely, I've booked everything. 533 00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:38.359 I'm all set, let's. 534 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:41.119 Go, let's go. We actually just we actually just got paid. 535 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:42.880 We just got paid today, so it should hit my 536 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:44.839 account tomorrow. I'm buying the plane tickets tomorrow. 537 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:48.880 Huh. That's exciting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm I'm for sure 538 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.839 going excited to see y'all and uh to see some 539 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:57.079 of the other podcasts and people and comedians. But I 540 00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:00.920 wanted to let you know and ask you I am 541 00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:06.119 taking I just I'm on day four of blue methylene, 542 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:10.519 the same I think it's but my tongue doesn't turn blue. 543 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:13.400 It's got some caffeine in it. It's got like L 544 00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:16.000 three inane or something like that in it. I should 545 00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:18.160 probably do some more research. So I've been on that. 546 00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:21.119 But I just wanted to tell you you guys that 547 00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:27.480 I absolutely love Deplorable Janet. She's like reframing a lot 548 00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:32.480 of health issues and to just piggyback on what you 549 00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:35.279 guys are saying about the sun since move I've been 550 00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:38.519 out in Arizona for a handful of years now and 551 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:44.000 I don't wear sunglasses ever, and every time my friends come, 552 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:45.960 they likes the first thing they do is they put 553 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:50.279 on sunglasses. But your eyes do adjust and I do 554 00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:54.400 get some sunburns, but it's never usually very severe. You 555 00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:56.920 put on a little aloe. The next day it's like 556 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.200 a sun It's like you got sun kissed. And so 557 00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:03.759 but I'm kind of curious what your guys's thoughts are 558 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.279 on skin cancer that does run in my family. I 559 00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:10.519 am somewhat nervous about. But where does that come from? 560 00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:13.559 Where does skin cancer come from? I know it has 561 00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:15.880 like genetic factors, and I just want to know your 562 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.000 guys's thoughts. I know you guys are all mds, but 563 00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:20.000 let's just well. 564 00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:24.599 And we've we've talked to like Lindsay Charmon from Rogueways, 565 00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:28.839 for example, she brought up about how cancer and tumors 566 00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:32.799 are actually severely linked and they look like they look 567 00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:38.359 like doppelgangers underneath a microscope in comparison to parasites, and 568 00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:40.960 and I think that absolutely has something to do with it. Also, 569 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:43.359 I think, so y'all know, I'm gonna get a little 570 00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:47.319 woo woo with this, but I actually believe this that whenever, So, 571 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:49.559 there was a book that was written by Julia Cannon, 572 00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:52.279 which is Dolores Cannon's daughter, and it was a book 573 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:55.079 called Soul Speak, and it was essentially talking about like 574 00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:58.440 how people within past life progressions, they would they would 575 00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:01.720 you know, carry over information and stuff like that, maybe 576 00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:05.079 lost information that you know, people weren't people forgot about 577 00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:09.160 or whatever. And this Soul Speak book was essentially like 578 00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:11.960 just about like, if you have something wrong with you, 579 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.240 then this is what the meaning could be. Right, So 580 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.960 let's just say you have I don't know, fucking uh 581 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:24.359 what is it called? Not anus cancer, but cancer in 582 00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:28.839 the buttle whatever the fuck that's called, and so prostate cancer. 583 00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:31.960 So I was thinking of and so essentially that whole 584 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:34.440 prostate cancer thing. What from what she was saying that 585 00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:36.799 it has something to do with like you're holding something 586 00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:39.480 in that you're not letting go. So it's almost literal 587 00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:42.279 how how all that works. And you know, take with 588 00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.119 that information whatever you want. The skin cancer one, I 589 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:47.519 don't know. I have the book, I can go and 590 00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:51.720 check it, but I think probably most likely I want 591 00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:54.160 to be real with you, dude. You know they they 592 00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:57.720 say that that skin cancer is caused from not putting 593 00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:00.960 on sunscreen or getting too much sun and not protecting yourself. 594 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.279 I actually think it's the opposite. I think that it's 595 00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:07.039 probably not only the sunscreen that causes it, but I 596 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:08.799 think that it's probably a lot of the other products 597 00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:11.559 that we use. Think about all the scented lotions and 598 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:14.400 the oils and the soaps and the body washes and 599 00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:17.640 all that other shit, and it's not even touching the 600 00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:19.480 water that is coming out of our faucet that is 601 00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:23.160 completely unfiltered. I mean, unless you have a couple thousand dollars, 602 00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:27.200 like high end type of filter, then you know you're 603 00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:30.319 not filtering out all of the chemicals, all the chlorine, 604 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:32.200 all of the you know what I mean, all of 605 00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:33.680 the negative shit that's in there. 606 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:34.039 Now. 607 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:36.960 I do, like I have super sensitive skin, so I 608 00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:40.359 have one of those it's like a shower head that 609 00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.799 gets filtered through these like lava beads or something like that, 610 00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:46.799 and supposedly it's supposed to like filter out like a 611 00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:49.240 lot of chlorine and stuff like that, and it has helped. 612 00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.920 But even still due that water that's coming out is 613 00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.119 absolutely not good for you. So I would actually venture 614 00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:58.440 to say that it's probably something to do with skin 615 00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:02.279 care products and the water that has something to do 616 00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:06.799 with why skin cancer is a thing. That's just my opinion, Jacob, 617 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:09.839 Welcome to the fucking conversation. Good sir, Did you take 618 00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:10.440 a nap or what? 619 00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.480 Bro I didn't even realize I had shut my eyes. 620 00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.240 I was sitting on the recliner, I had my phone 621 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:20.000 in my lap. I was watching some YouTube right. Actually, 622 00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:21.680 as a matter of fact, I was watching a debate 623 00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:24.400 with Jay Dyer. Right. We had him on the show 624 00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.079 and a guy named rus Laan, right, and he was 625 00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:31.000 talking about Eastern Orthodox versus other types of Christianity, good things, 626 00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:34.240 and I was like, really enjoying the conversation. Next thing 627 00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:36.680 I know, my dog is barking its ass off, and 628 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:38.799 I'm like, what the hell is going on? I look, 629 00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:43.680 it is nine thirty, and I'm like, oh, oh well, 630 00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:47.960 oh that's fun. So apologies everybody, me and I'm late, 631 00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:48.519 but I'm here. 632 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:50.279 Me and the good cult member has been holding down 633 00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:53.880 the foot, as Jamie would say, you know, you gotta 634 00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:55.599 throw that are out, you know what I mean? 635 00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:57.960 Are you rocking a mullet over there? Jamie? 636 00:31:58.000 --> 00:31:59.559 Is that what's going on? Can you take your hat off? 637 00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:01.799 Let's see that fucking beautiful masterpiece? Is that? 638 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:02.960 Is that? 639 00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:03.519 Is that? 640 00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:04.079 You know? 641 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:05.759 Business up front, party in the back type? 642 00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:05.960 Shit? 643 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:09.079 No, dude, you just got fully. 644 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:12.880 I got a fully Okay, I've been I've been cut 645 00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:15.119 my own hair for like four or five years. 646 00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:17.559 No, I'm not paid. 647 00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:19.920 I'm not paying anybody to make me look terrible. I 648 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:20.920 look terrible anyway. 649 00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:23.000 No, No, I mean yeah, actually I'm the same way. 650 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.000 It was the longest time until I paid for a 651 00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:28.720 haircut because my mom's a hairstylist, so literally, I always 652 00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:31.839 got free haircuts growing up. And that was actually part 653 00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:33.759 of the reason why I initially grew my hair out 654 00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:35.960 along the in the first place. Whenever I first grew 655 00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:37.680 it out the first time was because I was like, 656 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:40.079 I ain't paying for no fucking haircut, Like you know what, I. 657 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.279 Mean, what is that? 658 00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:44.880 But you know, every so often now I'll go get 659 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:46.160 a haircut and I'm paying for it. 660 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.200 But I had to do that. I got ready to 661 00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:50.680 be I'm growing it back out. 662 00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.960 Though it's it's in its beginning stages and I'm trying 663 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:56.960 to get like Jacob over there looking like fucking young bandolf. 664 00:32:57.720 --> 00:32:59.880 Oh you ain't, Yo, you ain't. 665 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:02.519 I've heard you say that like eighteen times by now, 666 00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:06.799 Market nothing but tease at this point, Market, you got. 667 00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:08.720 Rid of the beard? Why did you get rid of 668 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:09.119 the beard? 669 00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:09.359 Brother? 670 00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:11.039 Gotta rock that creeper stash? 671 00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:11.359 Baby? 672 00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.440 Uh So my girl likes guys what mustache is. 673 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:18.279 So I'm just like, all right, whatever, I don't care. 674 00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:19.720 This is what this is. 675 00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:21.519 My dislikes the beard? 676 00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:25.480 No, does she hate because I'm so gray? Oh? 677 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:28.440 She she prefers the old French tickler. Eh. 678 00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:31.759 She's like, yeah, you don't. You don't fucking yougo gold? 679 00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:33.279 And I'm like, ad, my bad. 680 00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.799 Yeah, well, I mean you're I feel that. 681 00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:39.640 I'm so excited for the grade to take over. 682 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:41.799 You're like our age though, aren't you. You're like mid 683 00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:42.880 thirties or something like that. 684 00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:46.000 Right, I'm old, yeah, thirty six soon. 685 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:48.000 Oh so you're my age. 686 00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:50.359 I had to think about it. 687 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.200 Sorry, yeah, no, she was. 688 00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:54.759 So she came down this weekend. 689 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:56.519 So I was like, all right, I'll get rid of 690 00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:59.319 the hair, you know, whatever you want, honey. 691 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:00.279 I feel that, you know. 692 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:02.680 But guys, we need to dive in. 693 00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.440 To everything that came out this week with that whole 694 00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:09.840 what is it not the p Diddy case? 695 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:12.000 Hold on, I messed you. 696 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.199 Jacob had Diddy case ship. That's still that is still 697 00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:17.639 one folding that dude there. 698 00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:19.280 We need we need to go in. 699 00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.239 Oh hold on, let's see here, dude, Steve Hovey, I said, 700 00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:26.840 I just opened the chat and I started nine forty, 701 00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:29.320 So whatever was sent before that, I missed it. 702 00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:31.639 Jeez, you know what we're gonna go down the chat. 703 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:33.960 We're gonna get to it. Let's just pop up on 704 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:35.960 that here and here in a second, I'll dap out 705 00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:38.880 all right. Uh, Spirit animal with your hand raised, sir? 706 00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:44.480 What's good? The conspiracy platypus himself looking like Jamie over there, 707 00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:45.840 can't find the unmute button. 708 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:47.800 What I'm sorry? 709 00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:49.920 No, my ear budd just died it and I was 710 00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.679 trying to switch it back to there. But I have 711 00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.159 a serious question for you boys. 712 00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:57.079 Did y'all know? 713 00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:57.639 All right? 714 00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.960 So hold on, I had it in my head. 715 00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:03.360 I lost it, My bad, But it happens to me 716 00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:03.960 all the time. 717 00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:06.639 Okay. So you know how I was talking. 718 00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:11.239 All about the Wonderwaff and h the Glockie the other 719 00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:16.559 link last week. Yeah, and I didn't get all the 720 00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:19.360 information out and everything, but about it was over in 721 00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.360 Kentucky's where it crashed landed years later, and how I 722 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:24.519 told y'all it was actually time travel to know. 723 00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:28.400 Yeah, I think that rings a bell. 724 00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:31.840 It was so the way the bill is actually designed. 725 00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.519 If you look in I think it's Hinduism and Buddhism, 726 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:36.400 but they have this thing called imanos. 727 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:38.800 I want to say, Uh, it's where they have the 728 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:39.480 monks and all. 729 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:42.639 They're sitting in like a little like a drailer looking thing, 730 00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:45.559 and that when like they believe that when that back 731 00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:48.280 in the day, that they could concentrate getting in tune 732 00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:51.119 with their in their selves and UH, that they would 733 00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:52.360 be able to lift and fly. 734 00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:57.360 And this is how their gods had uh in the Gita. 735 00:35:57.559 --> 00:35:59.840 They were flying in these machines like this, but they 736 00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:03.199 were also shooting arrows that never missed in uh a 737 00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:07.519 battlefield where the war of the Gods happening. All is 738 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.360 still radioactive even today. I just find it kind of 739 00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:13.920 cool how the Nazis they hated the they hated everybody 740 00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.239 that was blond and blue ad but yet they took 741 00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:18.719 all the occult from everyone and try to turn it 742 00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:20.639 into something a bastardization of it. 743 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.000 Yeah, that's what we just got done talking about that 744 00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:25.840 a couple of days ago, about who was it that 745 00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:27.840 they were not the Hindus, but it was. 746 00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:33.360 Like that, oh. 747 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:38.320 That, well, no, I'm saying that. 748 00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:42.719 The Tibetans that they were basically employing the services of. 749 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:47.000 But yeah, it's it is pretty pretty insane. Oh and 750 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:49.519 you're talking about the uh the Bagava Gita dude. I 751 00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:51.519 actually just picked that book up because I saw it 752 00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:52.960 over a good will the other day and I said, 753 00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:55.840 get in my buggy right now. I need that. 754 00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:01.280 I just started reading the Book of Joshure and it 755 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:04.039 may it's making a whole lot more sense. 756 00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:04.760 And I. 757 00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:09.559 Shout out to Dog from the Prometheus Lens because he 758 00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:13.440 he got me reading it. And the dude is fucking smart. 759 00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:15.559 And I completely agree with him on that. 760 00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:17.159 Esau was not. 761 00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:19.000 I could see him being the first Sesscutch. 762 00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:20.960 I completely fucking dude. 763 00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:24.840 Justin is the homie. He's one of the main homist, 764 00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:28.360 one of the main homies that's ever homie. And love 765 00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:32.480 that guy. And the way the cross reference research, which 766 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:34.960 he does, you know, because he's not only pulling it 767 00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.559 from the Bible. That's his main context is from the Bible, 768 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.840 but he cross translates it through other texts and stuff 769 00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.320 like that. I love people that do that. Like I 770 00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:45.760 think that, Like if you're ever trying to get the 771 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:50.920 full picture, especially on something so specific about giants, like 772 00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:54.840 if giants existed, surely somebody else talked. 773 00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:58.480 About it, right, Like let's just be real, everybody, That's 774 00:37:58.480 --> 00:37:59.079 what I'm saying. 775 00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:02.559 And so and and who knows was it was giants? 776 00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:05.719 Were they talking about actually actual giant skeletons or or 777 00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:09.320 were they talking about you know, the allegorical giant of 778 00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:11.960 sorts or something like that. And you know, not everybody 779 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.280 agrees that there were giants, by the way, it's not 780 00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.199 it's not like it's not like everybody agrees that the 781 00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:18.440 giants were Nephlum. 782 00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:20.679 No, no, not Nephalm. 783 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:22.480 But like, find me a culture that doesn't have a 784 00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:24.320 story about giants walking the earth. 785 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:26.679 No, everybody has a story about that. 786 00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:30.159 Yeah, I'm talking about specifically them being called Nephilum or 787 00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:32.920 them actually being the you know what I mean, like 788 00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:36.599 the the the sons of men or whatever came down 789 00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:39.039 and fucked the daughters of men, the sons of God 790 00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:39.360 came down. 791 00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:44.880 That's that's a specifically Abrahamic take on it, that's for. 792 00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:48.920 Sure, right right, Nick, What do you think about that? 793 00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:52.239 Do you think that the Nephilum were giants? Is that? 794 00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:53.360 Is that your opinion? 795 00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.480 So I believe my understanding of the Nephelum story is 796 00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.920 You've heard me say this before, but the like number 797 00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:05.159 one conspiracy kind. 798 00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.320 Of worldwide for a long time. 799 00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.440 Is really if you can trace it back to trying 800 00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:16.440 to keep people from understanding that we're not alone, as in, 801 00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:22.000 there's benevolent or malevolent other beings that interact with us 802 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:26.360 on a you know, any throughout history, right us not 803 00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:31.440 knowing that there's particularly benevolent like angelic beings that are 804 00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:35.880 around that are that are available and have interacted with humanity, 805 00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:39.840 call them, you know, angel whatever. But just the idea 806 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:44.000 that we're not just us, that's the thing that's the 807 00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:48.199 biggest cover up throughout history even into now, which is 808 00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:50.719 why that you know, the whole UFO disclosure thing is 809 00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:52.679 like above nuclear and all that kind of stuff. So 810 00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:59.880 from my understanding, the giants were another erace of extraterrestrial 811 00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:04.559 that came to Earth that happened to look well, I mean, 812 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.280 just the human human like what's the what's the word 813 00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:11.760 anthropomorphic form, you know, head head mars legs is kind 814 00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:15.320 of standard across the universe in general, you know, I mean, 815 00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:20.239 you've got you know, the Gray's, the Nordic Pleadians, whatever, 816 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:22.719 they're all kind of based on that model. 817 00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:23.000 Right. 818 00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:29.159 So, from what I understand, the the idea of Nephlum 819 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:33.239 was more of a cover up to just cover up 820 00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:36.000 the idea that you know, there's other stuff out there 821 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:38.920 and just keep you thinking that in that box. 822 00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:40.880 You know, Nick, I do have a question for you, 823 00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.000 and this is just I want to hear it from 824 00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:47.480 your lens, you know. But as far as aliens and 825 00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:53.159 let's just say higher dimensional entities or offshoot civilizations from 826 00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.440 other planets or whatever you want to call them, did 827 00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:58.119 do you think that they reproduced the same way reproduce 828 00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.880 we reproduce such as like like that, you. 829 00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:02.320 Know what I mean? 830 00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:05.360 I think there's fucking going on or is it? 831 00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.159 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I think so. 832 00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:08.239 So. 833 00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:10.960 I mean there's from what I understand, there's you know, 834 00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:14.079 there's beings that exist on like the three D level 835 00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:17.920 like us. Then there's higher dimensional and so on. Whenever 836 00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:23.920 you get into the uh light being more angelic type realms. 837 00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:29.960 I guess from what I understand, they do have when 838 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:36.079 they're ready to do that, it kind of makes itself available. 839 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:41.400 I would say, like, from what I understand, it's like Kendall, 840 00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:42.880 until you're ready. 841 00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:47.760 Oh ship, does that makes sense? You manifest it? 842 00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:49.800 That's what I'm talking about. 843 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:51.760 Yeah, and then it's like and then it's like straight 844 00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:56.440 avatar link after that, just your tails together. 845 00:41:56.199 --> 00:42:01.239 Right, So aliens do or do not have cheeks that 846 00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:02.199 can be clapped. 847 00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:08.840 I mean it depends on the density and dimension of said. 848 00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:12.360 Hey, you know. 849 00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:16.280 We were thinking density. All thinking of is the jiggle 850 00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:17.519 of said cheeks. 851 00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:19.440 I'm sorry, my brother went to a whole different thing 852 00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:20.599 as far as density goes. 853 00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:23.719 Like before we talking intergalactic cell you like, when we talking. 854 00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:25.519 About it a wicked wick. 855 00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:29.800 I tell you what though, if it's if we're basing 856 00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:32.000 it off of personal experiences. 857 00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:35.719 I mean, I'm not gonna say that I got jiggy 858 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:37.840 woot old segment, you know, a year and a half, 859 00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:41.000 two years ago, whenever that happened, and not saying that 860 00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:43.360 I didn't though, you know what I'm saying, Like there 861 00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:48.280 was definitely some growage in the h the old sacral chakra, 862 00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:52.320 if you feel what I'm saying. So yeah, I don't know. 863 00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:55.000 It's uh, it's strange. I just wanted to ask. And 864 00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:57.119 the reason why I wanted to ask is because of 865 00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:00.880 the whole you know, uh, fallen angels coming and mating 866 00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:02.920 with humans. So yeah, would that be. 867 00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:06.119 I don't think that ever happened in that capacity. I 868 00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:10.119 think we're talking in terms of like people at the 869 00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.079 time using the words of vocabulary that they have to 870 00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:17.400 describe the things that they've heard about when they don't 871 00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:19.280 have the terms for it, kind of like you know, 872 00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:23.119 flying ships or flying canoes, flying shields, you know, the 873 00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.760 ways that they described UFOs in the sky when they 874 00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:28.400 didn't have like quantum spaceship. 875 00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:29.400 Rocket type thing. Like. 876 00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:33.760 We have a higher vocabulary today to be more detailed. 877 00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:38.320 So if you're talking about a you know, a angelic 878 00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:42.760 being mating quote unquote with a human like that could 879 00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:47.800 be a way of saying genetically modified, right like in 880 00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:52.239 those terms, like they obviously didn't have terms for accelerated 881 00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:58.119 evolution in adding one's essence to to a lower hominid, 882 00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:02.559 and that definitely happened in some capacity in more cases 883 00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:04.119 than one from what I understand. 884 00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:08.320 So and that's what we that's what we actually talked about, 885 00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:10.679 you know, last week or whenever it was, and when 886 00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:13.000 we were talking about how Randall Carlson brings up the younger, 887 00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:18.159 driest impact about how just like how everything advanced in 888 00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:21.159 such a short amount of time, Like so we went 889 00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:25.719 essentially from what you might consider a caveman to building, 890 00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:29.519 building things and working together as communities and stuff like that. 891 00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:32.039 And I'm not going to say becoming spiritually advanced. I 892 00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:34.440 don't know, but what I am saying is like we 893 00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:38.719 weren't just like anymore, you know, like there was something more. 894 00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:41.360 There was something a little extra that that happened in 895 00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:44.000 that in that span of ten thousand years or whatever 896 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:45.800 it is. I'm not saying that it happened all at once, 897 00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:48.760 but you know, over the over the period, it doesn't 898 00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:51.920 seem likely if you looking at the chart of you know, 899 00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:55.960 rising in shit that we were able to do over 900 00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:57.480 the course of time, there just so happened to be 901 00:44:57.519 --> 00:44:59.159 a huge spike allegedly there. 902 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:04.639 So whenever there's there's one comparison or is it, does 903 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:06.239 dichotomy mean comparison? 904 00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:08.719 Is that the same word dichotomy? Yeah? 905 00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.079 Uh, it's kind of the Uh, well, I've always heard 906 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.360 you using the terms of like the dichotomy of good 907 00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:17.480 and evil within each man, so like it's more or 908 00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:21.760 less like, yeah, comparison, I guess could be a word, 909 00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:27.119 but it's more like the the paradigm that people find 910 00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.079 themselves in when they're fighting from two different forces within. 911 00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:30.880 But I'm with. 912 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:32.519 You, Okay, Well, I was gonna try to use it 913 00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:34.800 I'm not sure if I understand it properly, but anyway, 914 00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:40.360 I've been trying learn. Yeah, so the I've been wanting 915 00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:44.119 to make the comparison of of the you know how 916 00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.880 they talked about how they could tell that the COVID 917 00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:52.079 strain was created in a lab because there are certain 918 00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:58.199 like biological and genetic markers that can cannot be based 919 00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.400 on the way that it was changed. That it doesn't 920 00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:05.960 happen naturally over the course of like an evolutionary period. 921 00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:08.119 Right, Therefore, you. 922 00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:10.679 Can pretty well say that this was something that was 923 00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:15.320 artificially done, right, like it had some outside influence that 924 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:20.599 was quote unquote man made or just non naturally manipulated, 925 00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:27.199 right without with a pretty reasonable you know, ninety nine percent, 926 00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:29.159 like this doesn't happen on its own, and everyone kind 927 00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:33.360 of kind of agree the same kind of I guess 928 00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:40.639 probability exists in the genetic markers of anatomically modern humans, 929 00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:44.639 like two hundred thousand years ago from where the missing 930 00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.679 link exists. And I've been trying to I don't figure 931 00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:50.079 out a good way to make that comparison, but it's 932 00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:55.000 the same not likelihood that exists in the way that 933 00:46:55.039 --> 00:47:00.000 they've said, Hey, the COVID you know, strain was manipulating 934 00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:05.119 intentionally by something you know, humans in this case. But 935 00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:10.440 that same kind of statistically unlikelihood exists in the genetic 936 00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:14.119 human makeup as well. And you know where or how 937 00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:16.440 that happened is you know the big mystery. 938 00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:18.800 Right, Yeah, And that's where you know, so the whole 939 00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:20.719 Big Bang theory, like it has to be more than that. 940 00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:24.920 It's not like just some crazy anomaly that happened one 941 00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:28.519 time and all of a sudden, it's like everything has 942 00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:32.440 its own like a footprint, and everything is its own 943 00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:34.800 individual kind of thing. You know, you look at your fingerprints. 944 00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.280 Nobody has the same exact fingerprints as anybody else in 945 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.719 the world. It's like that was not just by happenstance. 946 00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:43.840 I don't think, well, I'm with you on that, but 947 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.039 I mean to your point Nick, Also, if we're going 948 00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:48.840 back in time and looking at DNA strands, I think 949 00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:51.599 it was either eleven thousand or twelve thousand years ago 950 00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:55.440 apparently like ninety percent of the male population on Earth died, 951 00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:57.480 and they're able to check that through. 952 00:47:57.400 --> 00:47:58.800 DNA sequencing as well. 953 00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:02.679 Because I want to say, the female genetic strands are 954 00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:05.599 like house within the mitochondria of cells, and I forget 955 00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:07.960 which side or which part of the cell the males 956 00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:10.880 is housed within, but they're basically able to go back 957 00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:12.880 and see that at one point in time. That's why 958 00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:17.880 they believe that ancient, ancient, ancient world war happened because 959 00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:22.159 for some reason, ninety percent of males only died within 960 00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:24.400 the same like five to ten year gap of time. 961 00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:27.199 So they're thinking that either a there was some sort 962 00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.559 of a mass disease that came around the earth and 963 00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:33.440 only killed dudes, or a mass war where you know, 964 00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:35.800 typically back in those days, men were the war fighters, 965 00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:37.519 so that they went out to war and all died 966 00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:39.800 like whatever the case would be. But yeah, they're able 967 00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:42.719 to go back and through DNA sequencing, see how far 968 00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:44.400 back that really goes. And there seems to be a 969 00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:48.320 bottleneck with the human genome about you know, twelve thousand 970 00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:51.519 years ago, give or take. But and I'm with you, Jonathan, 971 00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.559 I don't believe we went from the caveman to human 972 00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:56.800 beings that we would think of today in a gap 973 00:48:56.840 --> 00:48:59.320 of only a few thousand years. I don't know what 974 00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:02.159 the carbon day is showing on like auto the Iceman 975 00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:04.840 and things like that, But I mean there's all kinds 976 00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:07.679 of examples of human civilization going a lot further back 977 00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:10.559 than what we originally thought. For the longest time that 978 00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:14.679 we thought that human civilization or human history quote unquote 979 00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:18.719 dates six thousand, seven thousand years something like that. Go 980 00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:22.239 Beckley tepe blew the shit out of that conversation, right, 981 00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:26.199 dogger Land puts us to around fourteen thousand BC, And 982 00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:28.599 we don't even know what predated that because that's just 983 00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:31.119 the earliest that we can get our hands on. So, 984 00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:33.280 I mean, who's to say how far back this was? 985 00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:35.920 The younger, dryer theory? I mean, do they even have 986 00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.360 a working theory as to when that happened? 987 00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:40.639 Yeah, it was around that twelve thousand year mark that 988 00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:41.519 you were just talking about. 989 00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:44.480 Actually, yeah, okay, so that's my point. 990 00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:48.679 We're talking about civilization humans, not caveman, but humans having 991 00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:52.840 civilization and buildings and a language and all these things 992 00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:56.239 around that timeframe. So I mean, how much further back 993 00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:59.559 before that where they're humans walking the earth and where 994 00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:01.840 how how far back does that gap really go between 995 00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:05.079 cave people and human beings or Homo erectus to Homo 996 00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:07.320 sapien sapien You know, there's a lot more to be 997 00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:07.760 said there. 998 00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:10.679 Yeah, dude, there's uh. And to bring up that Lelo 999 00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:13.239 and Stitch movie again, I know people hate it. 1000 00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:14.719 Whatever I rash. 1001 00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:17.000 One thing that I thought was funny that they mentioned 1002 00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:18.920 in the in the new remake of it, is that 1003 00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:22.079 they were talking about how humanity it gets blasted with 1004 00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:25.159 an asteroid and they have to restart and jumpstart humanity 1005 00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:28.000 and and stuff like that every every couple thousand years. 1006 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.920 And I was like, damn, that's that's about right. And 1007 00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:33.800 it makes you wonder like, are we are we absolutely 1008 00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:36.440 getting blasted by asteroids every couple of years? Is it 1009 00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:38.920 just a thing that is perpetually happening? 1010 00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:40.440 You know, like is it? 1011 00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:44.880 Is it mentally right? But I'm talking about catastrophic you know, 1012 00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:47.920 Like I wonder how many times that has catastrophically happened 1013 00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:50.800 to where wiped out the majority of humanity to make 1014 00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:52.800 it have to start all over again. Because if you 1015 00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:55.400 think about it, I mean, who knows what the age 1016 00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:57.559 of the universe is, or what the age of the 1017 00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:00.880 Earth is, or what the age of human are. There's 1018 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.719 just there's not enough information on it. And you you 1019 00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:08.559 could say, well it's because of certain cataclysms or certain 1020 00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:11.840 catastrophes and any other kind of c word or anything, 1021 00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:13.840 you know what I mean, Like it could be one 1022 00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:16.719 of those things. But also I mean, could there be 1023 00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:20.000 a I don't know, is it reptilians that are holding 1024 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:20.800 this down or something? 1025 00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:20.920 Like? 1026 00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:22.559 What do you think? Like what do you think is 1027 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.079 really old? Like what do you think about that? Like 1028 00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:27.000 let's just let's just go out on a limb and 1029 00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:31.039 say that humans like human like us. I'm not talking 1030 00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:33.480 about like caveman. I'm not talking about Bigfoot or neand thought. 1031 00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:35.159 I'm talking about human humans. 1032 00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:36.119 Homo sapien sapien. 1033 00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:39.760 Yeah, how long do you think the modern human has 1034 00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:41.559 been around? Just hypothetically? 1035 00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:45.519 Oh, I honestly, I have no way of guestimating it 1036 00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:47.559 wouldn't It wouldn't shock me if you were to say 1037 00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:49.719 fifty thousand years. It wouldn't shock me if you were 1038 00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:53.199 to say thirty thousand, twenty thousand. At this point, it's 1039 00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:55.800 kind of like saying how far is a light years? 1040 00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:58.360 It's kind of one of those things that like it's 1041 00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:00.480 a incomprehensible number. 1042 00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.000 Realistically, I don't know. 1043 00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:04.480 Would you say there nick they say that you could 1044 00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:09.039 take a two hundred thousand year old at definitely fifty. 1045 00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:11.400 But from what I remember, just from listening to people 1046 00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:13.840 talk about the subject. But from what I understand, you 1047 00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:17.800 could take a two hundred thousand year old human or 1048 00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:21.079 a fifty thousand year old human and shave them up, 1049 00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:23.039 clean them up real nice, and put them in a 1050 00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:23.880 movie here right next to you. 1051 00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:25.039 Union you wouldn't go tell. 1052 00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:26.320 A difference, damn. 1053 00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:27.239 Okay. 1054 00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.480 Yeah, So anatomically modern human is I think the term 1055 00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:34.159 that they basically use, and that starts two hundred thousand 1056 00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:36.760 years ago, and that's you know, it's that, and then 1057 00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:41.280 you got Australia Pittacus and you know whatever, caveman grow 1058 00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:44.559 magnon it. There's like a two million years and then 1059 00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:48.800 it's boom, two hundred thousand years ago, like they're what 1060 00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:50.440 we are now out of nowhere. 1061 00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:53.039 And to be honest, I'm saying younger Drives is only 1062 00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:54.239 twelve thousand years ago. 1063 00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:55.840 You see what I'm saying. It's a lot, don't. 1064 00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:59.119 I don't necessarily think that younger Drafts was what caused 1065 00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:02.280 the human evolution lutionary jump to happen like that. It 1066 00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:04.440 just doesn't really mathematically make sense to me. 1067 00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:08.480 I think that and this is you know whatever, think 1068 00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:10.800 whatever you want about this, but I think, dude, I'm 1069 00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:16.159 looking less and less about the like physical material evidence 1070 00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:20.440 of humanity. I'm actually way more interested in like like 1071 00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:22.800 how did the soul begin? You know what I'm saying, 1072 00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:25.519 Like if there ever was a beginning, Like how did 1073 00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:28.840 the spark that we are, the spark where we came from? 1074 00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:30.719 Call it God whatever. I know that there's religions, they 1075 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:32.960 always trying to explain it away. But if we were 1076 00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:35.400 to like take a step away from that, because I mean, 1077 00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:39.199 just think about it, like even just realistically, like if 1078 00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:41.159 we're talking about that humans have been here for two 1079 00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:44.960 hundred thousand years or fifty thousand years or twenty thousand years, Dude, 1080 00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:47.000 the Bible came out in like three point fifty a 1081 00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:49.000 d You know what I'm saying, Like, we gotta go 1082 00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:50.280 way farther back than that. 1083 00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:53.639 No, no, no, no, no, no no no. 1084 00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:56.480 The Toro was long before the ads. 1085 00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.280 No, I'm talking about with the New the first five 1086 00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:02.159 books of the Bible. No, I said, yeah, that came 1087 00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:02.920 after Jesus. 1088 00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:03.679 Yeah, the Bible. 1089 00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:04.320 Yeah, there's the. 1090 00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:06.400 Old Testament and New Testament of the Bible. 1091 00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:08.360 But even the Old Testament with the tour, what is 1092 00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:10.599 that two thousand years old at most maybe three if 1093 00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:12.199 we're getting crazy. 1094 00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:16.559 So we're gonna get real technical with it. Moses is 1095 00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:18.280 the dude that wrote it down. But I mean the 1096 00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:21.679 oral tour and the Hebrew traditions predated them being enslaved 1097 00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:25.119 in Egypt. So I mean that's that we're talking ancient times. 1098 00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:28.079 And that's the thing. Man. Even when in the Roman 1099 00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:32.760 era most most religions, most people were polytheistic, they had 1100 00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:35.760 multiple gods. The only religion that one of the only 1101 00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:38.599 religions there was them in door Astronism that got a 1102 00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:42.679 pass on that and we're allowed to be basically Royce. 1103 00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:44.440 You got whatever going around, you be allowed, brother. 1104 00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:49.039 But whatever whatever allowed them to be monotheistic and just 1105 00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:50.800 get the pass on it is because they were seen 1106 00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:54.480 as such an ancient religion like Judaism or being Hebrew, 1107 00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:57.440 I should say, wasn't a new age religion to the 1108 00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:00.000 ancient Greeks. They were already predated them the ancient roman 1109 00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:02.960 and they predated them the ancient Babylonians, the ancient Mesopotamens. 1110 00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:05.639 They predated all of that right right, But it was 1111 00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:09.320 passed down tradition, but predating what three thousand years, five 1112 00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:10.199 thousand years. 1113 00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:12.519 We can get real crazy and say ten thousand years. 1114 00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:17.239 No, they wrote it down after they left Egypt and 1115 00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:19.800 the rule of Ramsey's the second. But I mean all 1116 00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:22.840 the traditions that was written down, from the Mosaic law 1117 00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:26.280 and all these things, the oral tradition predated the writings 1118 00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:28.360 of But to your point, yeah, let me see here, Royce, 1119 00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:29.840 I know you're going to chime in on this, and brother, 1120 00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:30.360 go for it. 1121 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:35.440 When did all that ship summer Rosel don't. 1122 00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:37.719 So? 1123 00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:40.599 I know that the tour, So the tours the Jews 1124 00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:42.519 received the tour from I was signed I right around 1125 00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:48.119 thirty three hundred years ago, the generally accepted the. 1126 00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:49.480 Thirteenth century BC. 1127 00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:51.159 That's what he just said. 1128 00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:59.440 Yeah, and then, DearS understand understanding of and Judaism that's 1129 00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:01.440 mankind how we know. 1130 00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:03.800 It today is roughly six thousand years old from the 1131 00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:08.199 from the creation of Adam. Obviously there are various opinions 1132 00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:09.960 therein because of everybody else. 1133 00:56:11.079 --> 00:56:14.039 Right, So all right, so six thou wait, six thousand 1134 00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:15.400 years ago or six thousand BC. 1135 00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:21.480 Six thousand years ago is when like the Jewish here 1136 00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:24.800 is five thousand, seven hundred and eighty five, So that 1137 00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:28.119 would be that long ago since the creation of Adam. 1138 00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:31.480 Okay, almost six thousand years, So not quite six thousand. 1139 00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:33.000 Years, it's almost six thousand years. 1140 00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:34.599 It's to your point. 1141 00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:38.519 The Torah was written down in the fourteen hundred's BC, 1142 00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:41.800 so to put that into context. Okay, okay, but the 1143 00:56:41.880 --> 00:56:45.119 stories that they wrote down predated that by thousands of years. 1144 00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:48.400 See what I'm saying, there's no way of knowing, Like, 1145 00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:50.960 there's there's no let's just say it predated that by 1146 00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:52.880 thousands of years. Let's just say predated it by two 1147 00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.159 thousand years. You're only talking about eight thousand fucking years ago. 1148 00:56:56.719 --> 00:57:02.199 And first, if humans have been around allegedly fifty thousand years, where's. 1149 00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:02.199 All that. 1150 00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:04.800 Is? 1151 00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:08.360 Well, I mean, but that's the thing when we talk 1152 00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:11.559 about Adam being allegedly six thousand years ago, right, we. 1153 00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:13.760 Don't know that for a fact. 1154 00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:17.159 We believe this to a certain degree, but I mean, 1155 00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.199 who's to say that that wasn't fifty thousand years ago? 1156 00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:22.639 And there was a huge gap of time where even 1157 00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:25.159 him were in the garden and they before they left 1158 00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:27.320 the garden, before the flood and all these things. Was 1159 00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:29.639 to say the younger Dryat isn't the world flood that 1160 00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:30.480 was being discussed. 1161 00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:32.039 I don't necessarily believe that, but. 1162 00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:35.320 That is a debatable point that I've heard proposed by 1163 00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:35.760 a few people. 1164 00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:41.159 That is an extremely religious theory because religion wants to 1165 00:57:41.159 --> 00:57:44.920 be able to include the history of humanity and understandable. 1166 00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:48.400 I mean what I'm saying, like, first man, take away 1167 00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:50.960 the religiosity of it. First man, let's say that like 1168 00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:52.760 that whole thing I'm in the Garden of Eden. It 1169 00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:54.119 wasn't like they were there for a week and then 1170 00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:56.320 got kicked out. It's possible they were there for a 1171 00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:58.840 few millennia, Like I don't know, I don't know, wasn't 1172 00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:01.360 there right, But as far as that goes where the 1173 00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:03.960 Tigris and the Euphrates meet and the two ancient rivers 1174 00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:06.840 that used to run into those, they've done archaeological digs 1175 00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:08.920 on that and they could see how far back in 1176 00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:11.760 time those rivers existed. So I mean, yeah, we're talking 1177 00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:15.119 thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago for that 1178 00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:17.840 story to even make sense, and it didn't until they 1179 00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:20.639 discovered those ancient river beds. It's not like the people 1180 00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:23.159 of Babylon knew about those ancient rivers. It's not like 1181 00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:25.119 the people of Egypt knew about those ancient rivers. 1182 00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:27.960 This is what I hate though, It's that you have 1183 00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:35.800 to like it's like ancient history is weaved into like 1184 00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:39.320 scriptures and certain things that like you have to take 1185 00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:41.039 on faith, you know what I'm saying. And I'm not 1186 00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:44.000 saying that. I'm not saying no, that's what I'm saying. 1187 00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:48.280 Every culture kind of has that, and so it's you 1188 00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:51.119 never know what was allegorical what was literal? You know 1189 00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:53.400 what I'm saying, Like was there actually a dude named Adam? 1190 00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:55.679 Was there actually a chick name Eve? Did they actually 1191 00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:58.480 live in this place on Earth called the Garden of Eden? 1192 00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:01.079 Or was it all allegorical? You know, like how do 1193 00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:01.480 we know? 1194 00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:04.800 We don't know? How about the fact that all of 1195 00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:07.639 our DNA comes from an original pair of humans? That 1196 00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:10.079 alone will tell you that at least the story behind 1197 00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:11.280 it makes more sense than not. 1198 00:59:11.800 --> 00:59:15.639 Well surely, yeah, I mean what could be the other way. 1199 00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:17.440 The whole thing? What came first chicken or the egg? 1200 00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:19.360 Like the chicken obviously had to have come first to 1201 00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:22.239 lay the egg. You backtrack all of human DNA. It 1202 00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:24.760 goes back to one male and one woman parent. That's 1203 00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:25.840 just the way math. 1204 00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:29.360 Works, right right, sure, I mean, but what would be 1205 00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:32.960 the arguing thing about that, Like, how would you even 1206 00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:33.599 argue that? 1207 00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:37.320 No, No, that's my point. Like the story again, name 1208 00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:38.239 of whatever you want. 1209 00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:40.800 It could be any man and any woman that was 1210 00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:44.000 the original human being pair on Earth. Yeah, all a 1211 00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:46.440 stem from them, fucking like, that's how that works. So 1212 00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:49.079 the story of Adam and Eve, Yeah, you could say 1213 00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:52.760 it's allegorical, but is there that basis of truth within it? Yeah? 1214 00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:54.760 One hundred percent. The world flood. 1215 00:59:55.199 --> 00:59:57.519 Yeah, we're talking about God making it rain for forty 1216 00:59:57.599 --> 00:59:59.360 days and forty knights and if flood and the whole earth. 1217 00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:02.360 Call that the reason or call it the story that 1218 01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:05.559 the Gilgamesh said, or the story that every single culture 1219 01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:07.639 throughout Earth has said as far as there being a 1220 01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:10.320 global flood, Like, okay, are we getting lost in the 1221 01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:13.360 conversation of whether God made that happen or not or 1222 01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:15.440 the fact that everyone agrees it was a global flood? 1223 01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:18.039 You see what I'm saying. There's while you do have 1224 01:00:18.079 --> 01:00:19.840 to look at things with a certain I don't even 1225 01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:21.400 want to use the term spiritual lens. 1226 01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:24.840 But you do have the cultural lens. 1227 01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:27.320 That everybody has as far as their creation story and 1228 01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:29.920 how their tribes came to be and all these things. 1229 01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:32.719 When you backtrack it far enough, there's a reason for 1230 01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:34.880 all the do you can matter of fact, as a 1231 01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:37.000 micro calls them with the Native American culture that you 1232 01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:39.760 can see as far as linguistics and how this tribe 1233 01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:42.440 has is a member of like this linguistic family. This 1234 01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:44.920 tribe has this linguistic family that it's part of all 1235 01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:45.519 these things. 1236 01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:48.039 And then you look back at the creation story of 1237 01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:48.800 this tribe. 1238 01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:51.679 They may not say that they came from out west, 1239 01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:54.119 but they'll say that their ancestors came on a trip 1240 01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:56.280 from the Great River. And then if you go to 1241 01:00:56.360 --> 01:00:58.000 where that great river was, we've now called it the 1242 01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:00.760 Mississippi River, the tribe that's local to there says that 1243 01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:04.239 their ancestors came from what we now call Arizona, and 1244 01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:07.440 their ancestors came for what we now call Canada. And like, 1245 01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:09.760 when you backtrack it far enough, you could see how 1246 01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:13.000 these linguistic patterns make their way across the continent, and 1247 01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:17.079 it makes sense their creation story. Their ancestors didn't walk 1248 01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:19.639 out of the Mississippi River. But they were on a 1249 01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:24.719 journey from that area right to everybody from they say 1250 01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:28.800 they came from like the whatever, not all of them, 1251 01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:32.239 some do, some absolutely do. Some the chalk Taw believe 1252 01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:34.320 that they walked out of the earth from the Great 1253 01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:35.639 Mound in Louisiana. 1254 01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:35.960 Right. 1255 01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:39.039 There's stuff like that, for sure. But then when you 1256 01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:41.159 go to that local area and you see what their 1257 01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:43.599 local customs say, and you follow the linguistic patterns, but 1258 01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:46.239 you also got to keep them on. The Mississippian language 1259 01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:48.599 group is also an isolate in and of itself, But 1260 01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:51.880 that's talk for another day. My point is everybody's creation story, 1261 01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:53.519 if you go back to it and look at it 1262 01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:56.960 through an anthropological lens, it makes sense why that story 1263 01:01:57.119 --> 01:01:59.000 was the way that it was to tell them the 1264 01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:00.000 story of their people. 1265 01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:02.480 So, yeah, there's you have to. 1266 01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:04.480 Look at it through, yes, a bit of a spiritual 1267 01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.480 lens sometimes, But I feel like there's also more to 1268 01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:10.320 the story than what's being described in the oral traditions 1269 01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:12.920 from time to time, and it's only through a certain 1270 01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:15.400 perspective that we're able to look deeper and fine what 1271 01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:16.119 that meaning is. 1272 01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:18.760 Right, And I think that my problem is is that, 1273 01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:21.199 you know, if we're if we're talking about now and 1274 01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:23.639 we're trying to show the history of something we don't 1275 01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:27.199 we don't just put it into a religious book. Like 1276 01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:31.480 there's history books, there's there's theologians, and there's history like 1277 01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:34.599 experts and stuff like that some people are more knowledgeable, 1278 01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:38.280 some people disagree, but there's usually something that most people 1279 01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:41.800 can get behind, and there's somewhat of a proof behind that. 1280 01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:45.119 How did they come up on this evidence, like, you know, 1281 01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:50.159 how how scientifically or anthro anthropologically or whatever the fuck? 1282 01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:52.360 You know, like, how did they find this evidence that 1283 01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:53.519 led them to this? 1284 01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:54.239 You know? 1285 01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:57.440 And now it's based upon you know, the history books 1286 01:02:57.480 --> 01:03:00.559 and less so on the religious books. And that's where 1287 01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:03.239 I have a problem because and I'm not saying that 1288 01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:06.920 the entire world agrees on our history, like the history 1289 01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:09.559 has always been written by the victors, And the same 1290 01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:13.519 thing goes for religion. In my opinion, that everybody has 1291 01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:17.000 a different beginning of how humanity was created, where we 1292 01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:19.599 came from, and all that stuff, all throughout all the 1293 01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:22.159 different religious books, and some of them agree. I'm not 1294 01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:24.519 saying that everybody has their own individual thought on it, 1295 01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:27.719 but there are a thousand different ways that you can 1296 01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:30.559 look at about how humanity and the soul was created, 1297 01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:33.079 and at that point you just got to take it 1298 01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:35.840 on faith. And I have a problem with that because, Kude, 1299 01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.000 we don't know where the fuck we came from. Bro, Like, 1300 01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:41.360 we don't know where we came from. 1301 01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:43.559 But that's when I went through my season of doubt 1302 01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:45.880 and I started digging into every single religion that could 1303 01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:47.880 get my hands on. The creation story was kind of 1304 01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:50.639 a big one for me. Right, some of these things 1305 01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:53.039 at least hold some sort of water and some sort 1306 01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:55.840 of scrutiny with science and what we understand to be true. 1307 01:03:56.400 --> 01:04:00.239 Some of them absolutely make no sense whatsoever. I looked 1308 01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:02.599 into Hinduism, and they believe that the world is being 1309 01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:05.159 held up by three elephant trunks and you're born into 1310 01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:07.400 a certain cast system and you'll never leave that cast 1311 01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:09.400 system for the entirety of your life, and like there's 1312 01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:10.000 a reason for that. 1313 01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:12.960 I'm like, hmm, I disagree with this. Okay. You can 1314 01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:13.760 look at the Nordics. 1315 01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:16.039 They have a very it's a cool creation story, but 1316 01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:18.280 it doesn't hold weight as far as what we can 1317 01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:21.920 scientifically prove to be true. There's religions that they're ancient 1318 01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:24.920 stories now that we have more science to back things up, 1319 01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:27.880 make no sense whatsoever. And there are some that make 1320 01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:29.079 more sense than it doesn't. 1321 01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:32.000 Sure that led me back, but even the story of 1322 01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:33.280 Moses is ridiculous. 1323 01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:35.239 A fucking guy lived nine hundred years old? Oh is 1324 01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:40.440 it nine hundred years old? There's tons of stories from 1325 01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:43.199 back in the day. The Samerian king scroll story tell 1326 01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:45.599 you that this dude reigned for thirty six thousand years 1327 01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:47.880 and it's raining down and then you could see the 1328 01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:51.159 progression between him his son, that dude's son, that dude's son, 1329 01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:53.400 and then went from living thousands of years to living 1330 01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:54.400 only one hundred years. 1331 01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:56.039 And yeah, it's that's a thing. 1332 01:04:56.119 --> 01:04:59.159 It's it's talked about by multiple sources, not just the Bible. 1333 01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:03.159 I'm aware, but I'm saying these are myths, these are stories. 1334 01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:06.719 These are not van You can't prove where where's the 1335 01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:08.360 proof of nine hundred year old bones? 1336 01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:11.840 Where are those at up too? There were thousands of 1337 01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:13.119 years ago? They're dust. 1338 01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:14.920 Now where's the dental records? 1339 01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:19.000 The teeth would also be dust too, Bro, We're talking 1340 01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:22.880 about pre work, like the very beginning of recorded history. Yeah, 1341 01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:25.800 I mean, it's it's understood that the same way. And 1342 01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:28.599 I'm not trying to say that. You know, clearly giants 1343 01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:31.880 were real here, but how many different giant skeleton bones 1344 01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:34.599 they have to find and how many times around? It's 1345 01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:37.119 same as dragons being real or vampires or whatever else 1346 01:05:37.159 --> 01:05:37.599 you want to call it. 1347 01:05:37.639 --> 01:05:38.280 Shape shifters. 1348 01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:41.400 All of these cultures that never met each other all 1349 01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:45.000 have stories about these exact same beings and beasts and 1350 01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:47.840 all this stuff. To me, that tells me it's clearly 1351 01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:50.199 got to have a kernel of truth. Otherwise they wouldn't 1352 01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:53.639 all be talking about the exact same thing. Maybe, and 1353 01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:55.519 all of them can talk about these men of old 1354 01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:57.440 and these men of renown, and these these dudes that 1355 01:05:57.480 --> 01:06:00.000 were living upwards of a thousand or more years like, 1356 01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:02.880 so all of them have a story that backgrounds to that, 1357 01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:06.599 Like okay, sounds like there's more truth to than fantasy 1358 01:06:06.599 --> 01:06:06.800 to this. 1359 01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:09.800 Or there were people that traveled from place to place 1360 01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:13.519 telling this this this ancient story that they can you know, 1361 01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:17.960 include within their rolodex or within their history or within Dude, 1362 01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:19.440 this has happened so many times. 1363 01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:23.880 You have global travel and the ancients, dude, dude, what 1364 01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:27.559 they absolutely I mean not have global travel in the 1365 01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:28.679 ancient times. 1366 01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:31.280 I mean, how what do you mean know that ancient 1367 01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:32.000 can mean anything? 1368 01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:35.960 Okay, ten thousand years ago, they didn't have dudes that 1369 01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:37.280 were making global trips. 1370 01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:38.760 How do you know that? Not to our knowledge? 1371 01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:41.519 Yeah, global migrations maybe, But like that's the thing we're 1372 01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:45.480 talking generation after generation of oral tradition passed down. There's 1373 01:06:45.559 --> 01:06:47.679 there's no record of a dude from what we would 1374 01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:49.679 now call India making his way to what we would 1375 01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:51.800 now call Argentina ten thousand years ago. 1376 01:06:51.840 --> 01:06:53.519 So there's no evidence to suggest that. 1377 01:06:53.639 --> 01:06:56.760 So every continent just somehow new to build the same 1378 01:06:56.880 --> 01:07:01.199 exact structure of a pyramid that god. 1379 01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:05.000 You we're talking Okay, we're talking about the perfection of 1380 01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:05.679 the pile. 1381 01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:09.039 That's what a pyramid is. Like, how could they have 1382 01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:11.400 known to do this? You mean stacking one less on 1383 01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:13.960 each you know level? Why not? 1384 01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:17.280 Why not a square? Why not a rectangle? Why not 1385 01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:18.280 any other shape? 1386 01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:23.800 Because pyramids easier to make, easier to make to construct 1387 01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:25.480 than a giant cube? Yeah? 1388 01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:29.920 Uh, Nick, go ahead, sir? What are your thoughts on this? 1389 01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:30.920 Am I crazy? 1390 01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:33.440 Like I feel like I'm some people might be looking 1391 01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:35.280 at me like I'm crazy for questioning the beginning of 1392 01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:37.800 humanity and us having to put faith in this history 1393 01:07:37.840 --> 01:07:41.199 based upon religion of mythological stories, Like I feel like 1394 01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:43.760 that's crazy to me. But anyway, what are your thoughts? 1395 01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:46.800 Well, I think on the Pyramids, I mean I agree 1396 01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:48.239 on the pyramids, of course. 1397 01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:48.880 With you on that one. 1398 01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:52.639 But the uh, the the artwork of the they call them, 1399 01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:55.880 the genies or whatever, the winged beings with the pine 1400 01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:59.400 cones or whatever those are, I think way more evidence 1401 01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:03.519 of like try traveling uh, you know, across continents I 1402 01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:06.039 mean at least like four to five thousand years ago, 1403 01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:09.119 I think in the South America. But one thing that 1404 01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:12.280 I wanted to bring up was, I don't know if 1405 01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:18.399 you've seen Jacob or Jonathan the dimensions of the so 1406 01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:20.680 you know how there's like flood stories and arcs and 1407 01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:24.079 whatnot in like older Sumerian and Babylonian. 1408 01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:24.199 Texts and whatnot. 1409 01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:28.960 Right, the U in the oltra Ha Sis and the 1410 01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:32.439 what is the other one the epic of Gilgamesh, Zia 1411 01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:37.399 Soudra and the outra hasis the dimensions of the the arc. 1412 01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:41.119 There's a character in these stories where there's you know, 1413 01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:45.640 somebody tells the Noah character to build a build some 1414 01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:46.720 sort of boat or whatever. 1415 01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:50.520 And in the. 1416 01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:54.479 The Babylonian one it's forty one let's see, thirty eighty 1417 01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:58.680 seven and fifty square feet, and then the Epic of 1418 01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:03.439 Gilgamesh ARC is forty four thousand, one hundred square feet. 1419 01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:07.000 And then the Biblical arc, based on the dimensions that 1420 01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:09.079 are provided in each one of these texts and in 1421 01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:14.159 the Bible based on based on cubits, is forty one 1422 01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:18.119 one hundred square feet. So the exact square feet of 1423 01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:22.159 the Biblical arc is the same square footage to the 1424 01:09:22.199 --> 01:09:26.159 t of the Epic of Gilgamesh ARC. So the idea 1425 01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:32.079 that like the Epic of Gilgamesh is much older and 1426 01:09:32.119 --> 01:09:34.880 they have the exact same arc story and even kept 1427 01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:37.520 the dimensions of the boat that they were. 1428 01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:44.560 The same within. I mean that one was the ones 1429 01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:46.319 with like a thousand square feet. 1430 01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:49.680 Yeah, yeah, pretty interesting. 1431 01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:51.800 That is interesting. 1432 01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:53.600 So it's not just as simple as building a pile 1433 01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:54.399 of fucking rocks. 1434 01:09:54.279 --> 01:09:54.880 And they're older. 1435 01:09:55.960 --> 01:09:58.439 No, no, no, but the perfection of the pile, which 1436 01:09:58.479 --> 01:09:59.199 is a pyramid. 1437 01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:00.239 Yeah, it doesn't take. 1438 01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:02.000 I mean, I've watched a three year old with blocks 1439 01:10:02.039 --> 01:10:04.760 make a pyramid accidentally, Bro, that's not that's not like 1440 01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:05.880 crazy to like. 1441 01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:08.720 Perfect dimensions and shit and point it up directly at 1442 01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:12.439 stars that you know could possibly have been channeling information or. 1443 01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:15.720 Something you know. Like no, No, I'm saying, like the 1444 01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:18.760 alignment is impressive, and I'm not trying to to belittle 1445 01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:22.319 how impressive it is that these massive structures are built 1446 01:10:22.359 --> 01:10:25.800 of sure, for sure, but also aside from the great 1447 01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:29.000 pyramids at Giza and then there's other pyramids that also 1448 01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:32.479 have their own like specific architecture and specific sacred geometry 1449 01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:34.079 that was using them. I'm not saying that it wasn't 1450 01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:36.840 that way. But how did all these people know to 1451 01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:40.479 do this? Because they like, of course they did, Like no, shit, 1452 01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:43.079 I absolutely just but to the point about the whole 1453 01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:45.520 arc in Gilgamesh thing, I wouldn't say that the story 1454 01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:47.399 of knowing the story of Gilgamesh is like a one 1455 01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:51.039 to one comparison the entirety of the epic of Gilgamesh. 1456 01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:54.760 The flood story in the boat is a comparison, but 1457 01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:57.720 the entire rest of the story is completely different from 1458 01:10:57.760 --> 01:10:58.800 anything from the Bible. 1459 01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:04.520 Honestly, dimensions, It's one of those things I was saying 1460 01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:06.560 that the dimensions are the same though from what he 1461 01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:10.399 was saying, which is either like a massive coincidence, which 1462 01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:12.560 I mean, of all numbers in the world, you get 1463 01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:13.920 the same, you know what I mean, Like, that's kind 1464 01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:14.359 of strange. 1465 01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:16.199 But I don't think it's a coincidence. 1466 01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:18.279 So how did it happen? 1467 01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:20.880 I believe and this. 1468 01:11:20.760 --> 01:11:23.439 Is just me with my own bias, right, I believe 1469 01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:26.239 the story of Noah kind of made its way around 1470 01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:28.760 the world and people started adapting it to their own 1471 01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:30.640 stories and their own myths, and that's how. 1472 01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:32.439 It ended up in the Epic of Gilgamesh. 1473 01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:35.840 The Epic of Gilgamesh quote unquote might predate Noah, but 1474 01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:38.319 by that we're saying that the clay tablets that it 1475 01:11:38.399 --> 01:11:41.079 was etched on predates the first writing of the Torah, 1476 01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:44.680 the oral tradition predates the writings on the clay tablets. 1477 01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:46.960 Though that's again just my personal life. 1478 01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:50.039 So you're also challenging the timeline of the Bible. 1479 01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:54.920 At that point essentially, Yeah, yeah, you're doing that. 1480 01:11:56.079 --> 01:11:59.880 Oh I am, Yeah you are, because how do you. 1481 01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:05.239 Mean because that was found thousands of years before the 1482 01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:07.520 actual timeline of the Bible happened. 1483 01:12:09.319 --> 01:12:15.920 Well, the Bible, no, the writing of the Bible isn't 1484 01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:19.079 when these things took place, Moses write the Book of Genesis. 1485 01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:20.840 Moses wasn't there when Adam and Eve were in the 1486 01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:22.960 garden of Eden. He wrote about it. That's what I'm saying. 1487 01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:25.079 There was a gap of time where nothing was written down. 1488 01:12:25.399 --> 01:12:30.119 Okay, there was, there was, and it doesn't line up 1489 01:12:30.159 --> 01:12:31.039 with what you're saying. 1490 01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:33.079 And but this can this can plain? 1491 01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:34.279 Go ahead? 1492 01:12:37.239 --> 01:12:39.319 All right, yehead, I'll use Jacob. 1493 01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:42.119 Oh you no, no, I'm asking explain what you mean 1494 01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:42.439 by this. 1495 01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:47.319 So what you're arguing is your your your fight is 1496 01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:51.560 or your words are leaning towards I'm not going to 1497 01:12:52.039 --> 01:12:56.600 you know, but when you're I'm just asking, no, no, no, 1498 01:12:56.600 --> 01:13:00.119 I'm just saying, it's like what your statements on a 1499 01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:06.159 Bible from now until then? Right, we'll get a long 1500 01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:13.000 time so far, terribly true. But what you're saying is 1501 01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:18.399 based on the timeline of the Bible. It's completely accurate. 1502 01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:19.920 It might not be. 1503 01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:25.720 Well, and that's what you know. 1504 01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:28.800 What Jacob's trying to say is is that the Bible 1505 01:13:29.039 --> 01:13:31.600 was not written at the time that these events occurred. 1506 01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:34.439 That it was, it was carried on orally for god 1507 01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:37.880 knows how long. And so that's maybe how the stories 1508 01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:41.479 could possibly be aligned, aligning because it was carried on 1509 01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:45.479 via oral tradition and and that could be seen as 1510 01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:48.439 a potential cop out. Or maybe it's true. There's no 1511 01:13:48.479 --> 01:13:50.359 way of knowing. That's the problem. There's no way of 1512 01:13:50.399 --> 01:13:51.000 knowing this ship. 1513 01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:53.680 There's no time stamps on anything. 1514 01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:56.960 Right, right, And dude, do you think that they were 1515 01:13:56.960 --> 01:13:59.600 living in the year negative five hundred? You know what 1516 01:13:59.640 --> 01:14:00.880 I'm saying? Like they didn't call it? 1517 01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:04.640 No, no, no, no, Look at this. The epic, the Epic 1518 01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:08.560 of Gilgames, spans for a period of around two and 1519 01:14:08.560 --> 01:14:12.439 fifty BC to fourteen hundred BC. Okay, the story of 1520 01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:16.159 Noah traditionally is dated to around twenty three hundred BC. 1521 01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:18.479 But to argue the shape. 1522 01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:22.039 Noah or twenty one hundred for wait, do I know? 1523 01:14:22.720 --> 01:14:25.079 To argue the point that the pyramids are not like 1524 01:14:25.479 --> 01:14:28.079 that's a weird thing, well no. 1525 01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:31.720 Actually it's impressive, but it actually has it doesn't shock me, 1526 01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:32.439 all right. 1527 01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:38.439 So the argument was, is that explain how people on 1528 01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:41.479 different continents, in different countries and different communities were all 1529 01:14:41.479 --> 01:14:44.000 building the same exact shit if they weren't able to 1530 01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:46.800 communicate with each other because there was large bodies of 1531 01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:49.680 water in between. And Jacob's point was, well, it's easy 1532 01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:51.920 to be able to build a fucking pile of rocks. 1533 01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:54.960 Which it's not with the alignment. 1534 01:14:55.000 --> 01:14:56.880 But but I have some other stuff. I just did 1535 01:14:56.880 --> 01:15:00.720 a little research and just in regards to so how 1536 01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:05.199 we would know that the ancient peoples were absolutely going 1537 01:15:05.239 --> 01:15:10.239 from one body of land to another, like long before anciently. Right, 1538 01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:14.640 So there's this thing called the Cocoa pel petroglyphs in 1539 01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:18.600 the Polynesian chicken DNA, right, which is you know, that's 1540 01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:20.920 how you would trace back something. If you're looking for history, 1541 01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:23.439 you look for it in the DNA, right, DNA are 1542 01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:27.640 gonna lie. It's literally codd And so this was around 1543 01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:33.920 twelve hundred BC. And it says chicken bones found in 1544 01:15:34.079 --> 01:15:39.119 Chili genetically match Polynesian chickens, not European ones. Chickens are 1545 01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:41.640 not native to the Americas and would have had to 1546 01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:44.800 have been brought by humans. That's twelve hundred BC. That's 1547 01:15:44.800 --> 01:15:47.640 a long ass fucking time ago, okay, And that's not ancient. 1548 01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:52.119 Polynesians are famous. The Polonese are famous seafaring people, and 1549 01:15:52.159 --> 01:15:57.159 none of them built pyramids. So all right, So people 1550 01:15:57.159 --> 01:16:01.119 were traversing waters. Oh yeah, no, they had they were 1551 01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:02.359 sailing waters. Yeah. 1552 01:16:02.399 --> 01:16:04.159 But again I'm not saying that like somebody in. 1553 01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:06.800 Egypt got on a boat and was getting this information 1554 01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:09.600 to the Aztecs, who also built pyramids. Why would I 1555 01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:14.079 have not. That's there's no record of that ever happening. Well, 1556 01:16:14.119 --> 01:16:17.279 here's an indication of that happening. Get into meso America 1557 01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:20.119 with the Omec heads. All right, so this dates back 1558 01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:25.399 also twelve hundred BC. The uh, the colossal basalt heads 1559 01:16:25.439 --> 01:16:28.760 carved by the Omec civilization have facial features that some 1560 01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:33.359 argue resemble African or even Polynesian people. This is considered 1561 01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:36.640 speculation without solid genetic or material proof of African presence, 1562 01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:40.880 but it suggests that possibly African or trans Pacific visitors 1563 01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:46.000 to the Americas was long before Columbus. So there's okay, 1564 01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:48.720 and I'll give you that as well. The African features. 1565 01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:51.119 You know, the trade winds and the water currents. If 1566 01:16:51.119 --> 01:16:53.640 you were to put in a boat on the westernmost 1567 01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:56.479 coast of Africa and get past the current, dude, you'll 1568 01:16:56.520 --> 01:16:58.159 accidentally hit South America. 1569 01:16:58.199 --> 01:16:59.560 I'm with you one hundred percent on that. 1570 01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:03.199 But most of sub Saharan Africa didn't know that Egypt 1571 01:17:03.279 --> 01:17:07.279 had built pyramids because Egypt is up above. 1572 01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:07.880 The Saharan desert. 1573 01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:10.840 Like it's it's we're talking too completely different cultures. Just 1574 01:17:10.840 --> 01:17:12.800 because they're on the same continent doesn't mean that they're 1575 01:17:12.840 --> 01:17:15.239 the same. People say, less, I got another one. How 1576 01:17:15.239 --> 01:17:18.600 about cocaine and tobacco were found in Egyptian mummies. 1577 01:17:19.239 --> 01:17:22.439 That's kind of crazy. Cocaine and tobacco were found in 1578 01:17:22.479 --> 01:17:26.680 Egyptian mummies. So this dates back at least to one 1579 01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:29.880 thousand BC, and they don't know how much you know 1580 01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:33.359 earlier than that, but at least then it says traces 1581 01:17:33.399 --> 01:17:38.159 of cocaine and nicotine plants, plants that are only native 1582 01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:42.399 to the Americas, were reportedly found in Egyptian mummies. Some 1583 01:17:42.439 --> 01:17:46.600 say contamination, some say it suggests pre Columbian trade or contact. 1584 01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:51.680 And it could suggest ancient transatlantic exchange far earlier than accepted. 1585 01:17:52.439 --> 01:17:52.960 So what's that. 1586 01:17:53.399 --> 01:17:57.000 So that explains trade or does it explain that certain 1587 01:17:57.039 --> 01:18:01.359 plants grow really well naturally around the equal later all 1588 01:18:01.399 --> 01:18:03.199 over the world. 1589 01:18:03.279 --> 01:18:04.640 That makes sense to me. 1590 01:18:04.680 --> 01:18:06.159 I mean, there are certain areas of the world where 1591 01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:12.119 tobacco just naturally happens. Same thing about terraform, terraforming. Explain 1592 01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:13.079 what you mean by this, sir. 1593 01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:17.319 So they actually and this was down in the Amazon, 1594 01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:22.760 they actually created areas. And this is now proven by 1595 01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:28.479 Lada that there is terraforming, and so terraforming is creating 1596 01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:33.319 shapes and places where water can flow through and grow agriculture. 1597 01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:40.920 There is an actual proof of people knowing land before 1598 01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:45.960 then there is a chance. I'm not saying it's true. 1599 01:18:46.159 --> 01:18:49.479 I don't know, you know, ends up, don't shoot you know, 1600 01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:53.720 just man, don't do it, Okay, that there is actual 1601 01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:59.199 facts that there is an actual science back in the 1602 01:18:59.319 --> 01:19:04.279 day when cocaine could have been taken from one place 1603 01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:08.079 to another. I'm not saying it couldn't couldn't be a 1604 01:19:09.960 --> 01:19:14.319 dab little influence from a guy crawling through a grave, 1605 01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:16.159 a cave, a cave like you know what I mean, 1606 01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:17.840 Like that could happen here. 1607 01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:20.199 Let me let me blow your mind one more again, dude, 1608 01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:24.039 This one actually goes way the fuck back. But as 1609 01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:26.279 far as you ever heard of the Topper site in 1610 01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:30.479 South Carolina, shout out to Jamie over there, the Topper site. 1611 01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:33.279 It says, uh, well, actually I can pull it up. 1612 01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:35.319 I'm gonna share the screen here a second, because this 1613 01:19:35.359 --> 01:19:37.239 one goes back fifty thousand fucking years. 1614 01:19:37.319 --> 01:19:41.239 Dude, this is the piece of chirt that originated in Europe. 1615 01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:44.159 I don't know what it looks like. I guess is 1616 01:19:44.199 --> 01:19:46.720 this it right here? Something along? This is where the 1617 01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:53.479 archaeological site is. Ummm anyway, so oh, yeah, you have 1618 01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:56.960 the whole, the whole Clovis idea about that's whenever humanity 1619 01:19:57.079 --> 01:19:59.279 or that's as far back. Yeah he starts back, but 1620 01:19:59.359 --> 01:19:59.840 that's when. 1621 01:19:59.680 --> 01:20:01.199 We talk about this on an episode. 1622 01:20:01.199 --> 01:20:03.479 But they found a piece of chart or rock that 1623 01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:06.520 was into an arrowhead that actually it's rock originated in 1624 01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:08.560 Europe or some shit like that, and it makes back 1625 01:20:08.680 --> 01:20:10.399 thousands of years and how the fuck did it end 1626 01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:11.439 up in the Carolina But. 1627 01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:14.680 That was only thirteen thousand years ago. What this is 1628 01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:17.479 suggesting the Topper Site, It says the Topper Site in 1629 01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:20.800 South Carolina is an archaeological location along the Savannah River 1630 01:20:20.960 --> 01:20:24.880 known for artifacts that suggest human habitation in the Americas 1631 01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:28.359 as far back as fifty thousand years ago, challenging the 1632 01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:31.520 previously held belief that the Clovis culture was the first 1633 01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:35.399 at around thirteen thousand years ago. Excavations have revealed significant 1634 01:20:35.399 --> 01:20:39.560 findings including tools and evidence of early human activity fifty 1635 01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:43.840 thousand years ago in good old America. Right. 1636 01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:46.960 I believe that one hundred percent, dude. And it says, 1637 01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:49.159 what does that have to do with anything we're talking about. 1638 01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:51.399 Well, what it has to do. It says, from what 1639 01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:53.560 I found on my phone, it says human presence in 1640 01:20:53.560 --> 01:20:56.840 North America possibly dating back fifty thousand years, way earlier 1641 01:20:56.880 --> 01:21:00.680 than the bearing straight theory allows. So yeah, you know 1642 01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:03.920 what I mean. Like, and sure, maybe that's not talking 1643 01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:07.039 about people going from one land to another, but just 1644 01:21:07.079 --> 01:21:12.000 as far as humanity, proof that humanity was here least 1645 01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:14.479 fifty thousand years ago, it's pretty fucking crazy, dude. 1646 01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:17.720 Oh, I of one hundred percent agree with this. 1647 01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:20.159 Keep in mind, I just said the story of Noah 1648 01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:23.199 is two hundred years before the story of Gilgamesh, as 1649 01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:26.479 per the quote unquote tradition allows. We have no idea 1650 01:21:26.479 --> 01:21:29.600 the actual year of which it took place. Okay, that's 1651 01:21:29.640 --> 01:21:33.840 a guestimation, but people living in North America one hundred 1652 01:21:33.840 --> 01:21:36.279 thousand years ago. This makes perfect sense to me. But 1653 01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:38.439 you have I'm gonna have a hard time wrapping my 1654 01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:41.479 head around. Oh, the dudes that built the pyramids under 1655 01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:44.359 the time of Ramses the Second, somehow made their way 1656 01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:48.039 to North America to give the Indige population this sacred 1657 01:21:48.079 --> 01:21:51.319 knowledge to build us pyramid in this area as well. 1658 01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:54.279 It's like, I don't see that. 1659 01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:57.079 I think that most people had their own building techniques, 1660 01:21:57.119 --> 01:21:58.760 and it's not like everybody was living. 1661 01:21:58.600 --> 01:21:59.960 In mud huts all over the world. 1662 01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:03.760 Certain people thrived in certain environments, certain people didn't. You know, 1663 01:22:04.119 --> 01:22:07.439 the guys that dug the Petra Temple clearly came and 1664 01:22:07.479 --> 01:22:09.760 talked to the Pueblo Indians that were living in the 1665 01:22:09.800 --> 01:22:10.920 sides of the Grand Canyon. 1666 01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:12.880 And we know that because they both callowed out caves 1667 01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:13.439 for themselves. 1668 01:22:13.479 --> 01:22:17.159 It's like, that's not exactly a fair comparison. I'm pretty 1669 01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:19.039 sure they all kind of figured that out independently. 1670 01:22:19.239 --> 01:22:23.720 So, just going off of what the experts, the theologians 1671 01:22:23.880 --> 01:22:27.560 and Biblical historians have to say about Noah and Adam, 1672 01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:30.079 let's just talk about this because if that's true, that 1673 01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:33.079 site in North Carolina dating back fifty thousand years of 1674 01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:37.640 proof of human civilization in the Americas fifty thousand years ago, 1675 01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:40.000 that is a long ass time ago. So if we 1676 01:22:40.039 --> 01:22:43.880 go to the experts on Bible and just theology in general. 1677 01:22:44.199 --> 01:22:47.399 From what they say is is that Noah, in real 1678 01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:51.039 historic time, using the genealogies from the Bible, especially the 1679 01:22:51.079 --> 01:22:54.800 Mazaratic text which is used in most modern Bibles, Noah 1680 01:22:54.880 --> 01:23:00.920 was born what they allege two nine and forty eight BC. Okay, 1681 01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:04.199 so twenty nine hundred BC. Let's just say that the 1682 01:23:04.239 --> 01:23:07.479 flood would have then occurred at twenty three hundred something 1683 01:23:07.560 --> 01:23:12.359 odd BC. And then you have Adam. Right, So what 1684 01:23:12.439 --> 01:23:16.600 they suggest is that Adam was born or created or 1685 01:23:16.640 --> 01:23:19.880 whatever at the year four thousand and four b C. 1686 01:23:20.399 --> 01:23:24.119 Four thousand okay, So if we're trying to figure out 1687 01:23:24.279 --> 01:23:28.159 what is our actual historical creation story as far as 1688 01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:30.880 humanity goes, I'm not talking about this. So humanity goes 1689 01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:35.640 and Adam from what they say was four thousand BC, 1690 01:23:35.840 --> 01:23:39.520 and then you got fifty thousand fucking BC proof of humanity. 1691 01:23:40.119 --> 01:23:41.640 It's like, I'm. 1692 01:23:41.479 --> 01:23:44.000 Sorry, only that Adam was the first man ever created. 1693 01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:50.079 I'm sorry. Is that what we're thinking? No, Adam was 1694 01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:54.520 not the first human being ever created. God created mankind 1695 01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:57.439 and then later created Adam in the garden separate. 1696 01:23:57.560 --> 01:24:01.039 That's the whole conversation. We all are to descendants. 1697 01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:03.880 Of Adam because Adam's descendants were on the boat and 1698 01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:07.199 if if if big ifs, all of the earth was 1699 01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:10.119 wiped out except for the inhabitants of that boat. We 1700 01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:12.640 are all descendants from the inbreeding that took place to 1701 01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:15.640 repopulate the world off of that boat. So it's yeah, no, 1702 01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:19.319 we're talking a completely different conversation. There was other human 1703 01:24:19.359 --> 01:24:22.279 beings before Adam walked the earth. Brother, I thought that 1704 01:24:22.319 --> 01:24:23.239 was understood. My bad. 1705 01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:26.039 All right, well, I mean, and just going off of 1706 01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:28.680 what you're saying, because there's not going to be a 1707 01:24:28.720 --> 01:24:31.119 lot of religious people that would agree with what you 1708 01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:33.399 have to say, because a lot of people with the 1709 01:24:33.399 --> 01:24:35.680 Book of Genesis, that's not my argument. Well, and a 1710 01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:38.000 lot of people would actually have to say that. You know, 1711 01:24:38.159 --> 01:24:40.760 whenever you think back, you know, to you know, when 1712 01:24:40.840 --> 01:24:42.439 was the first man? When was the first woman? You 1713 01:24:42.479 --> 01:24:44.800 actually just got them saying that that that we all 1714 01:24:44.840 --> 01:24:47.760 came from two people, right, like we all came from 1715 01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:49.399 and then you said Adam and Eve, And it's like, 1716 01:24:49.439 --> 01:24:51.279 all right, well, now you're saying that there were way, 1717 01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:54.079 you know, humanity, way before them. So I'm trying to 1718 01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:55.319 figure out what the real story is. 1719 01:24:56.439 --> 01:25:00.640 But okay, so wait, we're where did. 1720 01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:01.199 I lose you here? 1721 01:25:01.239 --> 01:25:02.800 I'm sorry? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. 1722 01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:05.960 God populated the earth or the Creator or the divine being, 1723 01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:09.880 say what you want, populated the earth, right, then wipe 1724 01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:12.439 them all out save for Noah and his family and 1725 01:25:12.479 --> 01:25:14.119 the one other family that was on the boat with them. 1726 01:25:14.199 --> 01:25:17.199 Those were the descendants of Adam. So to say that 1727 01:25:17.239 --> 01:25:19.640 we all are descendants of Adam is what I meant 1728 01:25:19.640 --> 01:25:21.760 by that. That's not to say that all of human 1729 01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:24.880 creation ever, ever, ever, there was thousands of people here 1730 01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:28.119 before Adam. Like, that's that's understood. So that is where 1731 01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:30.600 we're talking about the fifty thousand years, one hundred thousand years. 1732 01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:33.359 Yeah, for sure, absolutely, And this is where you start 1733 01:25:33.359 --> 01:25:36.600 getting into like giants but but no, well maybe, but 1734 01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:38.960 this is where you start getting into how are you 1735 01:25:39.159 --> 01:25:42.800 interpreting the Bible? Because there is a literal way, which 1736 01:25:42.840 --> 01:25:44.960 a lot of people do take. Some people take it literal, 1737 01:25:45.079 --> 01:25:47.560 some people take it allegorical. Some people take it both ways. Right, 1738 01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:52.560 so the literalist Christian view, both accounts refer to the 1739 01:25:52.600 --> 01:25:55.279 same creation event, just told in different ways. Adam and 1740 01:25:55.319 --> 01:25:57.880 Eve are the first humans ever created. If your take, 1741 01:25:57.960 --> 01:26:00.399 if you were to take it literally. That is how 1742 01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:05.479 they perceive it literally. Okay, then you have the idea 1743 01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:08.520 of what the gap theory is, which is a Christian 1744 01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:12.000 alternative view, which is Genesis one one to Genesis one 1745 01:26:12.079 --> 01:26:15.640 two that describes an earlier world destroyed by judgment. Humanity 1746 01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:19.399 was created in Genesis one is pre adomic, so Adam 1747 01:26:19.439 --> 01:26:21.800 and Eve were created after the gap in time to 1748 01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:26.800 repopulate a ruined earth. There's that. Then there's the preodomic 1749 01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:30.720 race theory some theologians is some theologians and esoteric thinkers 1750 01:26:31.039 --> 01:26:34.199 suggest that the beings created in Genesis one were non 1751 01:26:34.319 --> 01:26:38.720 sold humans or earlier races sometimes linked to Neanderthals or 1752 01:26:38.720 --> 01:26:41.640 ancient civilizations, and that Adam was the first human with 1753 01:26:41.840 --> 01:26:45.720 a divine spark, a consciousness or a soul. And then 1754 01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:48.680 there's obviously the the kabbalistic and gnostic view, which we're 1755 01:26:48.720 --> 01:26:51.239 not going to get into here. And so that's what 1756 01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:54.960 I'm saying, Like what, there's a million ways to be 1757 01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:58.119 able to perceive this information. That's that's the problem. And 1758 01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:01.439 I'm not even saying that the alternative I'm not even 1759 01:27:01.479 --> 01:27:03.479 saying that if they should Branny by any means, I'm 1760 01:27:03.520 --> 01:27:06.560 just saying, not everybody agrees on it, even in the 1761 01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:07.479 one religion. 1762 01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:14.960 The alternative theory here Adam and Eve's sons had wives, 1763 01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:17.600 they went and married somebody, and it wasn't their sisters. 1764 01:27:18.119 --> 01:27:20.600 This would indicate that there were people here prior to 1765 01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:24.119 Adam and Eve. In the garden itself is when God 1766 01:27:24.199 --> 01:27:27.960 created Adam, who would be the father of humanity because 1767 01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:28.920 of the flood to come. 1768 01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:33.439 This is my point, no, I said, and I agree 1769 01:27:33.439 --> 01:27:35.680 with you fully that there absolutely had to if the 1770 01:27:35.680 --> 01:27:37.880 Adam and Eve's story is to be taken literally, that 1771 01:27:37.920 --> 01:27:41.760 there actually were people that God created the whole rib 1772 01:27:41.800 --> 01:27:44.640 from Adam to create Eve and that whole story because 1773 01:27:44.760 --> 01:27:47.760 and we know this because whenever Cain got thrown out, 1774 01:27:47.800 --> 01:27:49.520 he said, no, don't put me out there with those 1775 01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:53.880 other people, right, And so that's where people are like, well, yeah, 1776 01:27:53.920 --> 01:27:55.840 then there had to have been some sort of people 1777 01:27:55.920 --> 01:27:58.760 before Adam and Eve if he's worried about getting thrown out, 1778 01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:01.560 you know, out of the circle or out of the 1779 01:28:01.560 --> 01:28:05.359 community or whatever for those other people. So and that's 1780 01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:09.279 but that's the problem because now we're talking about all right, 1781 01:28:09.359 --> 01:28:13.479 so now we have non sold humans and then sold humans, 1782 01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:15.800 and it's like, which one do we come from and 1783 01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:17.560 which you know? If you think about it, if we 1784 01:28:17.600 --> 01:28:20.039 all came from one race, then how are their black people, 1785 01:28:20.359 --> 01:28:22.640 how are their Chinese people? How are there you know, 1786 01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:25.119 Latino people? Like, how the fuck did that happen in 1787 01:28:25.159 --> 01:28:27.079 the first place? We all came from Outam an Eve. 1788 01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:31.560 Years of adaptation, Yeah, years of adaptation and change over time. 1789 01:28:31.640 --> 01:28:34.359 The truth of human evolution, not that we came from monkeys. 1790 01:28:34.399 --> 01:28:37.119 Yeah, well, and Outam again, and Adam and Eve were 1791 01:28:37.119 --> 01:28:38.960 four thousand years ago. So you're saying that happens in 1792 01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:41.039 six thousand years do we get all these different races, 1793 01:28:41.079 --> 01:28:44.119 even though we can look back that there were absolutely 1794 01:28:44.159 --> 01:28:47.159 white people and black people and Asian people and Hispanic 1795 01:28:47.159 --> 01:28:49.159 people at least three thousand years ago. 1796 01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:52.039 So now you're saying that over the course of three 1797 01:28:52.640 --> 01:28:55.840 being four thousand BC, that's that's kind of a preposterous 1798 01:28:55.840 --> 01:29:00.439 statement to me personal The scholars say, again, I'm not 1799 01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:02.920 some scholar myself, and it's just if you look at 1800 01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:05.479 it for what it is, the ancient river beds that 1801 01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:08.399 were running to the Garden of Eden allegedly, if it 1802 01:29:08.479 --> 01:29:12.960 is that place pre date four thousand BC by quite 1803 01:29:12.960 --> 01:29:13.920 a few millennia. 1804 01:29:14.359 --> 01:29:15.239 So that's what I'm saying. 1805 01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:18.079 The oral traditions that got passed down and then written 1806 01:29:18.119 --> 01:29:20.920 down in a later date don't exactly line up with that. 1807 01:29:20.920 --> 01:29:22.520 That's just my interpretation. 1808 01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:23.439 I don't know. 1809 01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:25.600 Now I could be so wrong on all of this, dude, 1810 01:29:26.039 --> 01:29:26.439 I don't know. 1811 01:29:26.560 --> 01:29:29.680 But all right, So how far back if you had 1812 01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:32.920 to guess? Were there are multiple races known to Earth? 1813 01:29:33.439 --> 01:29:36.720 If you had just had to guess, I like multiple races? 1814 01:29:36.960 --> 01:29:39.960 We're talking about three thousand BC, five thousand BC, ten 1815 01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:44.560 thousand BC. What are we talking about before? Because at 1816 01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:47.840 what point did it all come down to one race 1817 01:29:47.880 --> 01:29:50.319 where it all started? How did like when did that 1818 01:29:50.439 --> 01:29:53.960 happen to where humanity started to evolve? The DNA sequence 1819 01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:57.600 started to change, there started to be proliferations within how 1820 01:29:57.680 --> 01:29:59.640 everybody was mating, and maybe there was a lot of 1821 01:29:59.640 --> 01:30:02.159 insect which caused this, you know what I mean? Like, 1822 01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:03.159 what what do you think? 1823 01:30:03.560 --> 01:30:03.640 Like? 1824 01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:06.199 How far back do multiple races go? 1825 01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:10.319 This is the And I could be wrong on this 1826 01:30:10.600 --> 01:30:12.479 argument as well, but this would be like saying, well, 1827 01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:15.680 how far back do we have different species of animals 1828 01:30:16.039 --> 01:30:18.600 that look completely different based off of what biome they 1829 01:30:18.680 --> 01:30:22.159 live in? Why do Indonesian elephants look completely different than 1830 01:30:22.159 --> 01:30:23.159 African elephants? 1831 01:30:23.439 --> 01:30:26.439 When did that split happen? It's like, bro, who fucking knows? 1832 01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:28.640 I mean, it wouldn't shock me to say that fifty 1833 01:30:28.720 --> 01:30:33.039 thousand years ago we had different tribes and cultures of humanity, 1834 01:30:33.399 --> 01:30:35.560 Roman the Earth one hundred thousand years ago. Yeah, like 1835 01:30:35.560 --> 01:30:38.000 when the first When did the first white guy happen? 1836 01:30:38.039 --> 01:30:39.560 When did the first black guy happen? 1837 01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:42.039 When did the first uh, you know, somebody who we 1838 01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:43.760 would now call Japanese guy happen? 1839 01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:46.279 I mean, fuck hives, there is no way of knowing. 1840 01:30:46.039 --> 01:30:49.119 That, right, But don't you think that that's some kind 1841 01:30:49.119 --> 01:30:52.159 of breadcrumb to finding out when the first people were 1842 01:30:52.199 --> 01:30:54.880 actually created? Because the first people? 1843 01:30:55.039 --> 01:30:57.119 I mean, yes, I would agree with the first people. 1844 01:30:57.199 --> 01:31:00.199 I mean, if we're talking about let's just say that 1845 01:31:00.239 --> 01:31:02.079 we all came from Adam and Eve. Let's just say that. 1846 01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:05.920 Let's just say the pathetically, the the the the ancient 1847 01:31:06.479 --> 01:31:09.039 civilizations of people, they all got wiped out because they 1848 01:31:09.079 --> 01:31:10.960 didn't have a soul and that's why God sent you 1849 01:31:11.000 --> 01:31:13.079 know whatever, like whatever story you want to go with. 1850 01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:16.199 I'm just saying, like, let's just say we all stem 1851 01:31:16.199 --> 01:31:19.119 from Adam and Eve. And let's also just say that 1852 01:31:19.279 --> 01:31:24.079 because Eve was literally created from Adam, let's just hypothetically 1853 01:31:24.079 --> 01:31:26.159 say that they were the same race. Let's just let's 1854 01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:26.800 just throw that out there. 1855 01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:27.680 Makes the most sense. 1856 01:31:27.960 --> 01:31:30.039 I mean, you're not going to pull a rib and 1857 01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:33.359 create a Chinese person if home he's black. I'm just 1858 01:31:33.359 --> 01:31:36.640 just hypothetically here. It's probably not gonna happen, right, I'm 1859 01:31:36.640 --> 01:31:39.399 with you. So that's where I'm trying to figure out. 1860 01:31:39.399 --> 01:31:41.119 And I'm not even trying to I'm not even trying 1861 01:31:41.119 --> 01:31:44.119 to sit here and like say that what you believe 1862 01:31:44.159 --> 01:31:45.560 is I'm not going there. I'm not saying that what 1863 01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:46.000 you believe is. 1864 01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:47.800 No, that's trying to trip me up. 1865 01:31:47.800 --> 01:31:49.560 I'm trying to understand what you're asking though. 1866 01:31:49.680 --> 01:31:52.119 No, what I'm trying to say is is that where 1867 01:31:52.119 --> 01:31:55.680 did it all start? Because clearly religion doesn't have all 1868 01:31:55.680 --> 01:31:59.039 the answers and if if in religion is the oldest 1869 01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:02.359 historical documents that we have as far as history goes, 1870 01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:06.680 right allegedly m hm, and so we don't know, we 1871 01:32:06.680 --> 01:32:08.680 don't know our beginnings. That's my whole point. 1872 01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:12.239 I believe that the religion is supposed to answer the 1873 01:32:12.319 --> 01:32:14.960 question as to the why and not necessarily the question 1874 01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:15.680 asked to the how. 1875 01:32:16.680 --> 01:32:18.680 That's just my two cents. I mean, they gave us 1876 01:32:19.159 --> 01:32:23.279 and like I said, huh, they gave us a lot 1877 01:32:23.279 --> 01:32:24.960 of how allegedly. 1878 01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:29.000 They gave us some how. They gave us the basic 1879 01:32:29.079 --> 01:32:31.800 overarching themes. They didn't give us all the breakdowns of 1880 01:32:31.920 --> 01:32:33.840 all these things. It's more of the why, and that's 1881 01:32:33.880 --> 01:32:36.760 what's important that we're supposed to apply. That's what It's 1882 01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:38.600 not like the Uh, it's not like the Book of 1883 01:32:38.640 --> 01:32:44.840 Genesis is a scientific journal by any means like it. No, 1884 01:32:44.920 --> 01:32:47.119 it kind of tells a story to teach you about 1885 01:32:47.159 --> 01:32:49.399 why things happen in the way that it did. Aren't 1886 01:32:49.399 --> 01:32:51.159 if you do believe that to be true. 1887 01:32:51.199 --> 01:32:53.079 Aren't you the first person to say that the Old 1888 01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:57.479 Testament you look at as a historical document. You've said that. 1889 01:32:57.479 --> 01:33:00.000 I'm not the first person to say that, ship No, no, no, 1890 01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:02.439 you're the first document I'm. 1891 01:33:02.319 --> 01:33:04.640 Saying to on this show. You're the first person. Not 1892 01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:07.079 the first person, but you're like first in line to 1893 01:33:07.119 --> 01:33:09.560 say something like, well, that's the way we look at 1894 01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:11.800 it as Christians. We look at it as as a 1895 01:33:11.960 --> 01:33:14.640 historical document. And now it's like now it's. 1896 01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:21.119 But it's not a complete encyclopedia of written history. There's 1897 01:33:21.319 --> 01:33:23.039 some keynotes that are in there, and there's a lot 1898 01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:26.560 of empty spaces because I'll again a little bit of 1899 01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:29.399 believing in faith here that most of those empty spaces 1900 01:33:29.439 --> 01:33:32.720 are not pertinent to the overarching story. It's not the 1901 01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:35.199 it's not like reading the Book of Genesis is gonna 1902 01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:38.680 teach you everything about the ancient Meso meso American people, 1903 01:33:39.159 --> 01:33:41.279 even though that history is real history. But it's not 1904 01:33:41.319 --> 01:33:44.119 the Book of Genesis, so that's not real like, no, 1905 01:33:44.199 --> 01:33:46.760 not at all. It's it's more of the answers to 1906 01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:49.319 the questions of the why rather than the questions to 1907 01:33:49.319 --> 01:33:52.159 the physical howls. But there's enough thrown into where it's 1908 01:33:52.159 --> 01:33:55.159 supposed to paint a tapestry for you. But I mean, yeah, 1909 01:33:55.159 --> 01:33:57.239 there's tons of things that are not exactly explained and 1910 01:33:57.279 --> 01:33:59.000 laid out for you in these books. 1911 01:33:59.439 --> 01:34:02.199 Heard that that. Sorry, everybody, We I just I don't know. 1912 01:34:02.239 --> 01:34:04.880 I'm whenever I get caught up on something, I'm really 1913 01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:06.600 trying to figure it out, Like I just want to 1914 01:34:06.640 --> 01:34:09.119 fucking keep on going. I know everybody's writing in the chat, 1915 01:34:09.159 --> 01:34:11.239 and everybody was having their hands up and stuff like that. Nick, 1916 01:34:11.239 --> 01:34:12.600 I'm sorry you had your hand up there for a 1917 01:34:12.600 --> 01:34:14.840 hot minute. What did you want to interject into this, sir. 1918 01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:21.399 Just a potential alternative theory that may ruffle a little 1919 01:34:21.399 --> 01:34:26.239 bit of feathers. But if if we look back to 1920 01:34:26.319 --> 01:34:28.760 some of the oldest cultures you know, on the planet, 1921 01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:33.520 which would be like the Aborigines in Australia, they're mitochondrial 1922 01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:40.439 DNA is the oldest like recorded trackable DNA of any 1923 01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:44.399 human race that we know of, and they're like based 1924 01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:48.439 on that goes back sixty fifty to sixty thousand years, 1925 01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:54.039 based off their mitochondrial race DNA right, and their origin 1926 01:34:54.159 --> 01:34:58.399 stories much like many other natives around the world and 1927 01:34:58.439 --> 01:35:02.319 their traditions. They say that they were seated here by 1928 01:35:02.640 --> 01:35:06.039 Pleadians and the Aborigines and then you have but a 1929 01:35:06.039 --> 01:35:08.760 lot of other natives around the world have similar stories, 1930 01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:12.640 and I like to think that based on those, I 1931 01:35:12.640 --> 01:35:16.840 think a lot of them have preserved their stories over time. 1932 01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:18.279 But also that there was. 1933 01:35:18.279 --> 01:35:23.520 Probably two groups throughout history, going back, you know, past 1934 01:35:23.560 --> 01:35:25.840 fifty thousand years, you know, let's say one hundred and 1935 01:35:25.840 --> 01:35:31.479 two hundred, where there's anatomically modern humans, they probably seeded 1936 01:35:31.680 --> 01:35:36.520 different races around the Earth, multiple Adam and Eves call it, 1937 01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:40.079 right of different races in different areas, drop them off, 1938 01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:44.640 and then to provide genetic. 1939 01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:46.800 Diversity, you know, on the planet as a whole. 1940 01:35:47.199 --> 01:35:52.840 And then later on one other let's say, a group 1941 01:35:53.439 --> 01:36:01.079 or being a higher status decided to make their own 1942 01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:06.319 edit to the existing humanity that existed, which would be 1943 01:36:06.319 --> 01:36:08.439 the people outside of the garden at the time that 1944 01:36:08.600 --> 01:36:11.760 were not fall in or anything like that. They were 1945 01:36:11.800 --> 01:36:17.439 just normal humans. And then that line of humans that 1946 01:36:17.479 --> 01:36:22.279 came after, i e. The Adam Adomic line, which would 1947 01:36:22.319 --> 01:36:29.119 be their own I guess remix of the currently existing humans. 1948 01:36:29.399 --> 01:36:31.880 Those are the humans that lived a lot longer, became 1949 01:36:31.960 --> 01:36:38.880 the kings and the higher royalty class that began ruling 1950 01:36:38.920 --> 01:36:41.840 over some of the other humans throughout history, and. 1951 01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:47.760 The Aboriginal in where is that in Australia. That's like 1952 01:36:47.800 --> 01:36:50.840 the oldest known civilization that there is, like it's still 1953 01:36:50.840 --> 01:36:52.199 living today, what I'm saying. 1954 01:36:52.039 --> 01:36:55.920 Right, Yeah, and their stories and their genetic markers go 1955 01:36:56.079 --> 01:36:58.760 back at least sixty thousand years. 1956 01:36:59.199 --> 01:37:02.199 That's a start. That's a start, you know, Like that's 1957 01:37:02.239 --> 01:37:04.720 what I'm talking about, Like clearly, like dude, and that's 1958 01:37:04.760 --> 01:37:07.159 my problem is that whenever you only have five thousand 1959 01:37:07.279 --> 01:37:11.680 years ten thousand years of history or you know, oral 1960 01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:14.680 tradition or anything like that, I'm like, dude, it goes 1961 01:37:14.720 --> 01:37:15.520 back farther than that. 1962 01:37:16.039 --> 01:37:17.239 And they're regular human beings. 1963 01:37:17.319 --> 01:37:19.760 So I mean, if they're regular human beings, you know, 1964 01:37:20.520 --> 01:37:24.239 like us, and you know there's they go back sixty 1965 01:37:24.279 --> 01:37:27.439 thousand years genetically, then you know this whole five thousand, 1966 01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:30.520 ten thousand you know, Adam stuff and the other people 1967 01:37:30.600 --> 01:37:32.439 that were outside, and you know it just I don't know, 1968 01:37:32.439 --> 01:37:34.399 it doesn't make sense to me that much. I'm not 1969 01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:36.880 I'm not knocking to either. I'm just you know, presenting 1970 01:37:36.920 --> 01:37:37.960 some of the other facts. 1971 01:37:38.159 --> 01:37:40.760 No, this is not to like, it's not to disprove 1972 01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:43.560 anybody's religion. This that's not what this conversation is about. 1973 01:37:43.600 --> 01:37:46.239 It's it's just about trying to get to the beginning. 1974 01:37:46.600 --> 01:37:50.720 That's that's all. That's really also trying to take that Samuel, 1975 01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:53.720 go ahead, sir, bring your two cents. You got some 1976 01:37:53.800 --> 01:37:54.319 Asian shit? 1977 01:37:55.359 --> 01:37:59.840 Uh? Well, well, actually they found a seven point five 1978 01:38:00.399 --> 01:38:05.399 foot uh sword in uh that in knowled Japan. Uh 1979 01:38:05.600 --> 01:38:09.239 that's been aged till a fifteen hundred years ago. And 1980 01:38:09.319 --> 01:38:10.920 the fact of the matter is that no, man, I 1981 01:38:10.920 --> 01:38:12.800 don't give fuck how strong you are. You could be 1982 01:38:12.920 --> 01:38:15.119 Eddie fucking oh, you're not being able to wild that 1983 01:38:15.239 --> 01:38:17.800 in battle and that so that makes me that takes 1984 01:38:17.840 --> 01:38:20.720 me to the giants. Also, a lot of my points 1985 01:38:20.720 --> 01:38:23.840 were when y'all were talking about the Preadamites and everything. 1986 01:38:24.199 --> 01:38:26.760 Uh, that explains the homo erectus and everything. 1987 01:38:26.800 --> 01:38:28.800 But if you really look at it, it would also 1988 01:38:28.840 --> 01:38:33.239 explain why when Kane killed Abel and he left and 1989 01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:35.399 he found he found him a wife, and he built 1990 01:38:35.479 --> 01:38:37.359 He had a son named Enoch, and he built the 1991 01:38:37.359 --> 01:38:41.199 city Enoch, and how his kids all started off their 1992 01:38:41.279 --> 01:38:43.159 kids and how then you have the set. 1993 01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:45.239 Line, but it as but when you. 1994 01:38:46.680 --> 01:38:47.000 Hold on. 1995 01:38:48.840 --> 01:38:52.439 In Norse mythology, at the end, after Ragnark and only 1996 01:38:52.840 --> 01:38:53.760 Bald comes. 1997 01:38:53.520 --> 01:38:56.760 Back to life, he gets resurrected. After Ragnarok. 1998 01:38:58.159 --> 01:39:02.119 Comes out a human in a human pair, a man 1999 01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:04.319 and a woman called Ash and Aim. 2000 01:39:04.439 --> 01:39:06.680 They come from the husk of the Yezershill. 2001 01:39:07.439 --> 01:39:12.640 And then you also go into the the Hellenistic, the 2002 01:39:12.680 --> 01:39:16.319 Greek creation myths of humanity. 2003 01:39:16.479 --> 01:39:19.680 Uh that originally. 2004 01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:24.119 We were two headed, too torso formed, and four legged, 2005 01:39:24.479 --> 01:39:27.159 but we were too powerful and everything that has so 2006 01:39:27.319 --> 01:39:30.720 got uh Sozo split them up. And that's why that 2007 01:39:31.159 --> 01:39:34.600 explains the soulmates, why you're truly minded with one person 2008 01:39:34.840 --> 01:39:36.199 over in the Greeks. 2009 01:39:36.479 --> 01:39:39.359 But and I think that like it just even speaking 2010 01:39:39.399 --> 01:39:44.119 on like like the Vikings and the Nordics, and really 2011 01:39:44.159 --> 01:39:46.439 the only history that they have is just the edis right, 2012 01:39:46.600 --> 01:39:48.920 what is it the Proceeda and the poetic Eda or 2013 01:39:48.960 --> 01:39:53.960 something like that. That's right, yeah, yeah, But. 2014 01:39:54.439 --> 01:39:57.319 To explain how all the races and everything, it would 2015 01:39:57.359 --> 01:40:00.039 be the Tower of Babel because it humanity only he 2016 01:40:00.119 --> 01:40:03.399 had one tongue and they all together and they were 2017 01:40:03.439 --> 01:40:07.279 building up the they were building they're trying to build 2018 01:40:07.319 --> 01:40:11.399 a stairway to heaven because they the I believe it 2019 01:40:11.439 --> 01:40:11.920 was nem Ard. 2020 01:40:12.119 --> 01:40:14.720 He wanted to grow to He wanted to say he 2021 01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:15.560 was equal to God. 2022 01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:18.399 But if you look at it, that's also really the 2023 01:40:18.439 --> 01:40:20.680 devil trying to play and hit the his ey. That 2024 01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:24.800 likens back to how the devil tempted Eve. But it's 2025 01:40:24.840 --> 01:40:26.800 the talent Babel because it splits us all in different 2026 01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:29.119 tongues and nations. And that's why and we were never 2027 01:40:29.159 --> 01:40:31.279 supposed to be able to touch loan each other's tongues 2028 01:40:31.279 --> 01:40:34.319 and everything he is to dissuade us form the linking 2029 01:40:34.399 --> 01:40:35.119 back up together. 2030 01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:38.680 So that's another quote unquote we said, we said. 2031 01:40:38.800 --> 01:40:42.039 Right, But even speaking on the Tower of Babel or Babble, 2032 01:40:42.119 --> 01:40:45.720 however you say it that, uh, that was from what 2033 01:40:45.800 --> 01:40:48.800 the scholars say was only about twenty three hundred BC. 2034 01:40:50.920 --> 01:40:54.279 That doesn't go back far enough, Like that's not far enough. 2035 01:40:54.479 --> 01:40:57.880 And and so the argument there would be like, okay, 2036 01:40:57.960 --> 01:41:00.239 so everybody before twenty three hundred BC, it was all 2037 01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:01.840 the same color, they're all the same race, they're all 2038 01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:04.960 the same people. Is that we're talking about? That didn't 2039 01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:05.479 sound ready. 2040 01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:08.079 I personally don't believe that, but I see where you're 2041 01:41:08.079 --> 01:41:10.359 going with this. For sure, I think that the Tower 2042 01:41:10.359 --> 01:41:12.720 of Babel story happened, and I think it might have 2043 01:41:12.800 --> 01:41:17.680 broke up the Mesopotamian cultures into different languages and subsets 2044 01:41:17.680 --> 01:41:20.079 and all this stuff. But I don't necessarily think that 2045 01:41:20.119 --> 01:41:22.000 the Tower of Babel had anything to do with like 2046 01:41:22.119 --> 01:41:27.279 the Australian Aboriginals or the Mesoamericans or you know what 2047 01:41:27.319 --> 01:41:29.159 I'm saying. I think they also kind of made their 2048 01:41:29.159 --> 01:41:32.359 way there long before that. But also the Tower of 2049 01:41:32.399 --> 01:41:35.239 Babel is that the scholars believe, give or take that 2050 01:41:35.239 --> 01:41:35.840 that's what happened. 2051 01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:37.520 Or is that the year that it was written down. 2052 01:41:37.920 --> 01:41:41.079 No, that's the year that they believe that it happened, 2053 01:41:41.119 --> 01:41:44.000 because the flood happened in twenty three forty eight BC 2054 01:41:44.319 --> 01:41:46.199 and the Tower of Babel was one hundred and fifty 2055 01:41:46.239 --> 01:41:46.720 years after that. 2056 01:41:48.439 --> 01:41:49.640 Okay, okay, fair. 2057 01:41:49.520 --> 01:41:55.680 Enough' that's what the biblical scholars say, gotcha? So yeah, 2058 01:41:55.840 --> 01:41:59.640 that's actually it says according to Archbishop Usher's chronology. 2059 01:41:59.680 --> 01:42:03.800 Whoever that is, I don't know who that is, but dope, okay, 2060 01:42:04.560 --> 01:42:05.560 peace of the archbishop. 2061 01:42:06.079 --> 01:42:07.119 But that would also make sense. 2062 01:42:07.159 --> 01:42:09.640 How you have all these linguistic groups all around the 2063 01:42:09.680 --> 01:42:14.359 Mesopotamian that were like related to each other, but somehow 2064 01:42:14.359 --> 01:42:16.960 completely separate from each other. And when did that split happen? 2065 01:42:16.960 --> 01:42:18.840 How did that split happen? I could see the Tower 2066 01:42:18.880 --> 01:42:22.039 Babel story being a possible candidate for that, for sure. 2067 01:42:22.039 --> 01:42:24.039 I don't even think the Tower Babel was a literal 2068 01:42:24.079 --> 01:42:27.600 thing that happened. There's a really yeah, there's a lot 2069 01:42:27.600 --> 01:42:28.920 of esoteric ways of looking at that. 2070 01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:33.279 Actually, Oh, I'm sure there's esoteric ways for anybody to 2071 01:42:33.319 --> 01:42:34.439 look at anything man. 2072 01:42:34.560 --> 01:42:37.520 Like, But think about it. How ridiculous is it that 2073 01:42:37.560 --> 01:42:39.920 people literally thought that you can build a tower to God? 2074 01:42:40.479 --> 01:42:43.239 Like they clear there's no way that they actually thought 2075 01:42:43.239 --> 01:42:45.319 that was a thing. Like, that's the most ridiculous thing 2076 01:42:45.319 --> 01:42:45.800 I've ever heard. 2077 01:42:45.840 --> 01:42:48.960 Why why Why wouldn't they believe that that's the thing. 2078 01:42:49.199 --> 01:42:51.439 Well, that's everybody to assume that God exists only in 2079 01:42:51.479 --> 01:42:57.640 the sky and not anywhere else. Everybody thought that God 2080 01:42:57.680 --> 01:42:58.680 existed in the error. 2081 01:43:00.600 --> 01:43:05.319 Everybody, everybody collected, everybody, everybody collectively agreed that God was 2082 01:43:05.399 --> 01:43:05.800 up there. 2083 01:43:06.640 --> 01:43:07.600 That's kind of ridiculous. 2084 01:43:07.600 --> 01:43:10.760 The Babylonian gods believed that they were up there, yes, 2085 01:43:10.760 --> 01:43:13.359 but the Greeks believed they lived on top of Mount Olympus. 2086 01:43:13.399 --> 01:43:15.920 I mean, everybody had their own stories to it, for sure. 2087 01:43:15.760 --> 01:43:20.079 But yeah, depending on Yeah, the Babylonians believe that they 2088 01:43:20.079 --> 01:43:23.279 were in the sky. Yeah, and that'll where the whole 2089 01:43:23.319 --> 01:43:25.840 Ananachi think. Samaran excuse me as Samerian. 2090 01:43:26.920 --> 01:43:28.880 Yeah, I mean I don't know too much about it. 2091 01:43:28.920 --> 01:43:30.560 I might have to do a metamistery show on the 2092 01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:35.399 esoteric understanding of the tower babble. But Zombie, what are 2093 01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:38.319 your thoughts on all this? Where did humanity start? What 2094 01:43:38.359 --> 01:43:40.079 are your thoughts like, do you think we all came 2095 01:43:40.119 --> 01:43:42.760 from one thing? Was it fifty thousand years ago, ten 2096 01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:44.199 thousand years ago? What do you think about that? 2097 01:43:46.399 --> 01:43:50.079 So I actually more along the lines, well, I don't 2098 01:43:50.560 --> 01:43:53.840 I don't know if I actually believe in the evolutionary theory, 2099 01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:58.000 but I will say that according to you, you were 2100 01:43:58.039 --> 01:44:00.760 asking earlier, way earlier about. 2101 01:44:00.319 --> 01:44:03.560 Bones that they had found, and they found human remains 2102 01:44:03.560 --> 01:44:07.279 in Africa that are at least pre dating between two 2103 01:44:07.399 --> 01:44:12.239 to four million years old, like the earliest human civilized 2104 01:44:13.119 --> 01:44:17.960 coming from monkeys, right, So the handyman is between two 2105 01:44:18.039 --> 01:44:20.479 point four million to one point four million years old, 2106 01:44:20.840 --> 01:44:24.960 that is found in eastern and southern Africa. And Nick 2107 01:44:25.039 --> 01:44:29.800 was saying that they Aborigines are the actual like first people. 2108 01:44:29.880 --> 01:44:32.840 But when you look at it and you read into it, 2109 01:44:32.960 --> 01:44:36.680 I'm not trying to like debate, but the in the 2110 01:44:36.720 --> 01:44:40.279 Red Sea by in Africa is the oldest group, and 2111 01:44:40.479 --> 01:44:44.439 is the Africa is where people originated from, and so 2112 01:44:45.199 --> 01:44:46.960 there's like more than three thousand. 2113 01:44:47.640 --> 01:44:50.600 It's the sand people is what it's called the group. 2114 01:44:50.560 --> 01:44:53.640 And so you can find that everybody pretty much came 2115 01:44:53.720 --> 01:44:57.520 from them, and then as they dispersed throughout the world. 2116 01:44:57.680 --> 01:45:00.680 Is how it started to genetically change, and then over 2117 01:45:00.760 --> 01:45:05.359 time evolution happened, and there was originally like five classes 2118 01:45:05.399 --> 01:45:11.560 of races. Oriental American, Asian, Oriental American, Indian, Caucasian, Malayan, 2119 01:45:11.640 --> 01:45:14.439 and Ethiopian was like the original five that they kind 2120 01:45:14.479 --> 01:45:20.239 of like collectively agreed upon. And as like people spread apart, 2121 01:45:20.520 --> 01:45:23.159 environmental issues happened, like you know, you got further away 2122 01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:23.880 from the equators. 2123 01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:25.000 So the lower UV. 2124 01:45:26.079 --> 01:45:29.199 Levels and natural selection of favoritism over a lighter skin 2125 01:45:29.800 --> 01:45:34.840 so helped produce more quote unquote white people. And so 2126 01:45:34.960 --> 01:45:39.479 that's kind of like the the gene theory of even 2127 01:45:39.520 --> 01:45:42.279 Adam has not been proven. I just want to say 2128 01:45:42.319 --> 01:45:45.279 that it's it's more or less the passing of the 2129 01:45:45.279 --> 01:45:49.920 magothondrial DNA like he was saying is is not actually 2130 01:45:49.960 --> 01:45:52.399 been proven. They haven't been able to narrow it down 2131 01:45:52.479 --> 01:45:56.239 to like a specific like group of just these two 2132 01:45:56.319 --> 01:46:00.920 people came. Everyone came from these two things. So that's 2133 01:46:01.399 --> 01:46:03.479 I'm just that's my two cents on that. There's a 2134 01:46:03.479 --> 01:46:05.880 lot more to it, but you have to believe in 2135 01:46:05.960 --> 01:46:06.840 kind of like evolution. 2136 01:46:07.640 --> 01:46:09.359 Dude, she's so much smarter than us. I feel like 2137 01:46:09.399 --> 01:46:11.239 such an idiot whenever I talk after her. 2138 01:46:12.720 --> 01:46:14.319 I mean, this is what her degree is in bro 2139 01:46:14.560 --> 01:46:15.279 one d percent. 2140 01:46:16.359 --> 01:46:18.880 Yeah, it is. It is a fascinating, you know kind 2141 01:46:18.920 --> 01:46:21.119 of idea. And I think that, you know, one of 2142 01:46:21.159 --> 01:46:24.720 the main problems is is that think about all of 2143 01:46:24.760 --> 01:46:27.760 the warring tribes and all of the warring different religious 2144 01:46:28.159 --> 01:46:32.600 uh communities and stuff that are taking out entire civilizations 2145 01:46:32.680 --> 01:46:37.399 because of their real religious affiliation and then ultimately just 2146 01:46:37.680 --> 01:46:40.640 doing away with all of their religious dogma. So how 2147 01:46:40.640 --> 01:46:43.960 many times did that happen? How many things were lost 2148 01:46:44.039 --> 01:46:47.159 because those people that were carrying on some type of 2149 01:46:47.319 --> 01:46:51.359 you know, historical relic or even mythological story or whatever 2150 01:46:51.560 --> 01:46:55.760 was completely done away with because of wars and stuff 2151 01:46:55.800 --> 01:46:57.720 like that. You we don't know how many times that's happened. 2152 01:46:57.800 --> 01:47:03.119 Yeah, right, thousand percent? What to do? 2153 01:47:05.680 --> 01:47:07.119 Oh here comes the grumpy face. 2154 01:47:07.199 --> 01:47:10.000 Oh he got it, all right, I figured it out. 2155 01:47:10.439 --> 01:47:14.199 All right, he got it, Jamie figured out where were 2156 01:47:14.279 --> 01:47:19.880 humanity started? Here we go, all right, let's go, let's go. 2157 01:47:21.319 --> 01:47:21.399 No. 2158 01:47:21.560 --> 01:47:23.920 I mean, I think it's a very confusing subject because 2159 01:47:24.079 --> 01:47:29.359 timelines are super complex, right, I think they're fucking insane. 2160 01:47:31.039 --> 01:47:34.760 But we have never touched the subject. 2161 01:47:34.800 --> 01:47:37.159 I don't know if you guys, have I mean, I've 2162 01:47:37.159 --> 01:47:39.319 been listening to the pod for a minute. 2163 01:47:40.640 --> 01:47:42.479 Oh shit, I don't let me do the old man thing. 2164 01:47:46.359 --> 01:47:48.520 I love that it's now being monitored as the old 2165 01:47:48.520 --> 01:47:49.680 man thing. 2166 01:47:54.840 --> 01:47:58.319 Guys, my chrome getting slapped by his wife. 2167 01:48:00.039 --> 01:48:00.880 Oh you mean his uncle. 2168 01:48:02.880 --> 01:48:06.920 It might be his uncle. Why have we not talked 2169 01:48:06.960 --> 01:48:07.399 about this? 2170 01:48:07.640 --> 01:48:11.680 Oh, she's a handsome brod like she's fucking. 2171 01:48:13.680 --> 01:48:16.359 Yeah, hands up, don't you you know what I mean? 2172 01:48:16.479 --> 01:48:17.720 Mean me, you know, just. 2173 01:48:19.239 --> 01:48:21.760 What's with his old hands up? Don't shoot foolish, just 2174 01:48:21.880 --> 01:48:22.279 stop that. 2175 01:48:23.479 --> 01:48:24.960 I'm just like, hey, don't be mad at me. 2176 01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:28.520 I'm just asking questions, you know, just always asking question 2177 01:48:29.159 --> 01:48:30.960 What the hell I watched that? 2178 01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:35.760 And I was like, I mean, he's a bit of 2179 01:48:35.800 --> 01:48:38.039 a bitch, and I think his oh had to put 2180 01:48:38.119 --> 01:48:39.319 him in his place publicly. 2181 01:48:40.920 --> 01:48:43.399 Well, there's actually something going on with that that A 2182 01:48:43.399 --> 01:48:47.399 lot of people believe that Macron because he's the French president, right, yeah, 2183 01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:50.520 that he's the antichrist. So there's a lot of Antichrist 2184 01:48:50.560 --> 01:48:51.880 stories going on about him too. 2185 01:48:51.920 --> 01:48:56.000 Oh my god, yeah, of course he is. Of course 2186 01:48:56.000 --> 01:48:59.319 he is. Obama was clearly the antichrist. Trump is clearly 2187 01:48:59.359 --> 01:49:00.000 the Antichrist. 2188 01:49:00.800 --> 01:49:05.199 Menu Macrone is clearly the Antichrist. 2189 01:49:05.760 --> 01:49:08.640 It's a little weird. This is what I was like. 2190 01:49:08.760 --> 01:49:10.800 I was like, oh shit, I forgot what I was 2191 01:49:10.800 --> 01:49:12.479 trying to say. All right, my bad? 2192 01:49:12.840 --> 01:49:14.680 Oh hold up, I got it pulled up on a 2193 01:49:14.760 --> 01:49:19.239 Christian website that is claiming that Macrone is possibly the Antichrist. 2194 01:49:19.720 --> 01:49:21.720 Yes, oh, for the love of fuck? 2195 01:49:21.920 --> 01:49:24.079 What all right, scoot? 2196 01:49:24.159 --> 01:49:26.159 I'm telling you is something weird about that guy. 2197 01:49:26.399 --> 01:49:30.119 Scripture prophecies that the are prophesizes that the Antichrist, also 2198 01:49:30.199 --> 01:49:33.119 known as the Man of Lawlessness, will arise from Europe 2199 01:49:33.199 --> 01:49:35.359 with the intent to deceive and dominate the world near 2200 01:49:35.399 --> 01:49:38.000 the time of Christ's return, with notable figures such as 2201 01:49:38.039 --> 01:49:41.119 Pope Francis and Vladimir Putin. Is speculated to play a 2202 01:49:41.199 --> 01:49:45.239 role in the tribulation tribulation hour. Well, maybe not Francis anymore, right, 2203 01:49:46.079 --> 01:49:47.199 And how old. 2204 01:49:47.119 --> 01:49:47.760 Is this article? 2205 01:49:47.840 --> 01:49:48.000 Man? 2206 01:49:48.760 --> 01:49:54.319 It looks like two weeks ago, twenty eighteen, it says, 2207 01:49:55.960 --> 01:49:58.039 was I so, yeah, they. 2208 01:49:57.560 --> 01:50:01.680 Were calling Macrone the Antichrist in twenty eighteen? Holy fuck dude. 2209 01:50:02.039 --> 01:50:04.760 Well it says that the lateness it's plausible that the 2210 01:50:04.800 --> 01:50:08.600 Antichrist to be is currently alive on Earth, possibly even 2211 01:50:08.720 --> 01:50:11.760 someone well known. In recent times, many have speculated about 2212 01:50:11.760 --> 01:50:14.319 the identity of the coming Antichrist, while popular figures such 2213 01:50:14.319 --> 01:50:17.479 as Barack Obama, Donald Trump, Jared Kushner have been suggested. 2214 01:50:17.720 --> 01:50:20.439 I didn't hear the Jared Kushner one. They do not. 2215 01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:22.479 He's a Jew, so you know. 2216 01:50:22.840 --> 01:50:23.840 You see what I'm saying. 2217 01:50:23.880 --> 01:50:24.680 Man. 2218 01:50:24.199 --> 01:50:27.920 They do not meet the necessary criteria for the role. However, 2219 01:50:28.199 --> 01:50:31.279 Emmanuel McCrone, who became President of France on May fourteen, 2220 01:50:31.319 --> 01:50:35.399 twenty seventeen, has attracted considerable attention as a potential End 2221 01:50:35.479 --> 01:50:39.479 Times figure because many of his characteristics align with those 2222 01:50:39.600 --> 01:50:43.520 expected of the Antichrist. Consider the following. Almost fucking stoke 2223 01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:47.159 for this one, dude, Let's go Number one. The Antichrist 2224 01:50:47.199 --> 01:50:51.159 will start his ascent to power from relative obscurity. There 2225 01:50:51.199 --> 01:50:54.079 have been countless news reports on Macrone's remarkable and mysterious 2226 01:50:54.079 --> 01:50:57.880 ascent to power, with many highlighting how he seemingly appeared 2227 01:50:57.880 --> 01:51:00.600 out of nowhere. A mere two years before the French election, 2228 01:51:00.680 --> 01:51:04.159 Macron was virtually unknown, lacking both political party affiliation and 2229 01:51:04.279 --> 01:51:09.399 electoral experience. Check one. Number two. The Antichrist will emerge 2230 01:51:09.439 --> 01:51:12.680 from a revived Roman Empire, which is located in Europe. 2231 01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:15.600 Macrone comes from a European background. His country, France, is 2232 01:51:15.640 --> 01:51:17.920 a member of the EU, which is often seen as 2233 01:51:17.960 --> 01:51:20.479 a modern day incarnation of the Roman Empire. As the 2234 01:51:20.560 --> 01:51:22.960 leader of one of the most influential countries in the EU, 2235 01:51:23.119 --> 01:51:27.319 Macrone is devoted to consolidating the Union, potentially restoring its 2236 01:51:27.399 --> 01:51:30.880 former power. Okay, number three, I. 2237 01:51:30.840 --> 01:51:33.439 Don't see Europe as a modern Roman empire, but to 2238 01:51:33.600 --> 01:51:38.319 at that point Charlemagne. Charlemagne was listed as the Holy 2239 01:51:38.399 --> 01:51:41.159 Roman Emperor, and he was from where we would now 2240 01:51:41.199 --> 01:51:41.880 call France. 2241 01:51:42.039 --> 01:51:44.479 So like, okay, all right. 2242 01:51:44.359 --> 01:51:46.920 Number three, the Antichrist will be associated with the number 2243 01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:50.960 six sixty six. Here we go. Macrone's full names. Macroun's 2244 01:51:50.960 --> 01:51:53.560 full name has thirty six characters, and when you assign 2245 01:51:53.680 --> 01:51:56.479 each character a value based on its position and add 2246 01:51:56.520 --> 01:52:00.479 them together, the total is six six six. He also 2247 01:52:00.640 --> 01:52:02.239 wann I would like to see how they came up 2248 01:52:02.279 --> 01:52:04.760 with that. Oh shit. He also won the French presidency 2249 01:52:04.840 --> 01:52:08.960 with sixty six point six percent of the vote. Interestingly, 2250 01:52:09.119 --> 01:52:13.319 the command the command to count or calculate the number 2251 01:52:13.319 --> 01:52:16.319 of anti of the anti crisis, translated from the Greek 2252 01:52:16.319 --> 01:52:19.079 word uh spezio. 2253 01:52:19.960 --> 01:52:20.880 Uh where's our jew? 2254 01:52:20.960 --> 01:52:23.960 At How do you say that? Word is here. 2255 01:52:25.399 --> 01:52:28.279 In the chat anymore? Yeah, and he's our Jew, no doubt. 2256 01:52:28.560 --> 01:52:30.000 But I can't where are you looking? 2257 01:52:30.039 --> 01:52:32.039 How I say that? But like this this is. 2258 01:52:33.880 --> 01:52:34.279 Anyway? 2259 01:52:34.399 --> 01:52:37.439 So from the The number of the antichristis translated from 2260 01:52:37.439 --> 01:52:39.279 the Greek word spazio if that's how you say it, 2261 01:52:39.319 --> 01:52:42.119 which has a secondary meaning related to casting votes in 2262 01:52:42.199 --> 01:52:47.119 elections or decision making processes. Okay, number four, The Antichrist 2263 01:52:47.159 --> 01:52:49.880 will be. The Antichrist will be a prince. Unlike most 2264 01:52:49.880 --> 01:52:53.119 European and Western leaders, Macrone is technically a prince. He 2265 01:52:53.239 --> 01:52:57.640 was named co Prince of Andorra, a small principality situated 2266 01:52:57.640 --> 01:53:00.439 between France and Spain when he took office. While remaining 2267 01:53:00.520 --> 01:53:03.000 royalty in Western and Northern Europe hold little to no 2268 01:53:03.119 --> 01:53:06.319 power and served mainly as symbolic figures, Macrone's status as 2269 01:53:06.319 --> 01:53:08.760 a as a royal has propelled him to a position 2270 01:53:08.800 --> 01:53:12.319 of great authority, as he also holds the highest executive 2271 01:53:12.359 --> 01:53:15.359 office in the country following his party sweeping victory in 2272 01:53:15.479 --> 01:53:18.600 legislative elections. Some news outlets have gone so far as 2273 01:53:18.600 --> 01:53:21.239 to refer to him as as a monarch with the 2274 01:53:21.279 --> 01:53:24.760 power to rule by decree and. 2275 01:53:26.239 --> 01:53:27.800 Doubles slapped by his wife. 2276 01:53:28.439 --> 01:53:31.960 He's a bitch, double slapped like with both hands as 2277 01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:33.640 she rear back and popped him twice like. 2278 01:53:33.760 --> 01:53:34.399 Jud It was. 2279 01:53:34.479 --> 01:53:37.439 It was. I was like, I mean, is there a 2280 01:53:37.520 --> 01:53:38.119 video of this? 2281 01:53:38.880 --> 01:53:40.640 Yeah, there's a bunch of videos of this. 2282 01:53:41.079 --> 01:53:43.960 I would imagine that the Antichrist would love being pegged. 2283 01:53:44.600 --> 01:53:45.079 Makes sense. 2284 01:53:45.439 --> 01:53:47.319 Yeah, I'll tell you what though, have you seen his 2285 01:53:47.479 --> 01:53:52.319 uncle slash wife's hands. That bitch got big ass fucking hands, dude. 2286 01:53:52.399 --> 01:53:55.119 You know he probably dislocated his jaw getting slapped with 2287 01:53:55.119 --> 01:53:58.359 those meteors she got, yo, she got some big Mike 2288 01:53:58.399 --> 01:54:04.039 shoulders broke. Candice Owens has been going on and on 2289 01:54:04.119 --> 01:54:06.960 about this, and she's literally put the challenge out there 2290 01:54:07.039 --> 01:54:09.720 if you were born a woman, just say so and 2291 01:54:09.760 --> 01:54:13.199 I'll detract everything. And she has still not said a 2292 01:54:13.239 --> 01:54:15.319 fucking word about it. Oh look, and they can't sue 2293 01:54:15.319 --> 01:54:16.920 her for defamation because it's true. 2294 01:54:17.640 --> 01:54:20.840 There's a video. Now, shoot, dude, it's rude. 2295 01:54:20.920 --> 01:54:23.560 Let's see the video. Well that's with both hands. 2296 01:54:24.000 --> 01:54:25.319 Is he going to play it hopefully? 2297 01:54:26.079 --> 01:54:26.239 Oh? 2298 01:54:26.279 --> 01:54:27.479 Yeah, I play u ass? 2299 01:54:27.880 --> 01:54:29.279 Oh oh okay? 2300 01:54:30.079 --> 01:54:35.319 Waves that even still, that was a little aggressive, That's 2301 01:54:35.359 --> 01:54:36.279 what I'm saying it was. 2302 01:54:36.359 --> 01:54:40.239 I mean, that's his uncle, like actually, his long lost 2303 01:54:40.319 --> 01:54:43.920 uncle who disappeared around the time he was twelve, resurfaced back, 2304 01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:47.640 allegedly as a trainee who became his teacher, who fell 2305 01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:49.720 in love with him when he was fourteen years old. 2306 01:54:50.159 --> 01:54:52.279 Yeah, that's Brigitte Macrone. That's the whole story. 2307 01:54:52.319 --> 01:54:54.479 It's disgusting, true, that's true. 2308 01:54:55.800 --> 01:54:57.840 All right, let's get a good look at this broad 2309 01:54:59.399 --> 01:55:03.199 Well she's as okay, well. 2310 01:55:04.439 --> 01:55:06.640 And then they tried making her seem like just the 2311 01:55:06.680 --> 01:55:09.159 same as big mic You remember how many people are like, 2312 01:55:09.199 --> 01:55:12.800 oh my god, she's so beautiful, so much femininity. You know, 2313 01:55:12.880 --> 01:55:15.680 it's like, bro, what woman are you looking at? Saying 2314 01:55:15.680 --> 01:55:16.800 all that feminosity? 2315 01:55:16.920 --> 01:55:17.000 What? 2316 01:55:17.319 --> 01:55:20.720 She's clearly Macrone the same way. She's clearly a lot 2317 01:55:20.760 --> 01:55:21.760 older than he is too. 2318 01:55:22.439 --> 01:55:24.720 Oh she grew ye know, she was a full grown 2319 01:55:24.760 --> 01:55:27.479 woman when he was fourteen, Like this was. It's complete 2320 01:55:27.479 --> 01:55:32.560 pedophilic grooming, like unronically. But again, all of France is 2321 01:55:32.600 --> 01:55:35.880 like swooning over her. She's so garageous. I'm like, in 2322 01:55:36.000 --> 01:55:38.079 what light? And how many drinks have you had? 2323 01:55:38.119 --> 01:55:40.800 There's a lot of facial surgery going on for sure. 2324 01:55:42.239 --> 01:55:44.199 There's a whole lot of a dude wearing a wig. 2325 01:55:45.079 --> 01:55:47.800 Uh No, I'm saying there's clearly been some kind of 2326 01:55:47.880 --> 01:55:52.800 facial reconstructive or something like. That's an unnatural face, bro, Like, 2327 01:55:52.880 --> 01:55:56.239 look at that fucking face like that looks. 2328 01:55:58.079 --> 01:56:00.319 Tell me that's not a dude. Look at the right 2329 01:56:00.359 --> 01:56:02.119 there and tell me that's not a dude. That's twenty 2330 01:56:02.199 --> 01:56:07.039 years Macrone Senior. Oh, look at those fucking chompers, bro 2331 01:56:07.239 --> 01:56:09.119 in the wide shoulders, and oh man, I wish they 2332 01:56:09.119 --> 01:56:15.640 could show you a picture of Brigitte's hands next to his, like, bro, bro, unironically, 2333 01:56:15.760 --> 01:56:18.079 she's got fucking oven mits looking like she's wearing a 2334 01:56:18.119 --> 01:56:20.720 first baseman's glove on both hands, naturally. 2335 01:56:20.880 --> 01:56:23.560 Like, I don't know what else to say, bro, Well. 2336 01:56:23.279 --> 01:56:26.319 It's kind of ironic considering she's probably the picture and 2337 01:56:26.359 --> 01:56:26.960 not the catcher. 2338 01:56:27.119 --> 01:56:27.279 You know. 2339 01:56:28.359 --> 01:56:31.680 Oh, I guarant fucking t she is if she's still intact. 2340 01:56:31.720 --> 01:56:33.239 I don't know if she had the surgery or not. 2341 01:56:33.640 --> 01:56:35.760 I don't know that yo. Right there, no, no, no, 2342 01:56:35.960 --> 01:56:39.439 right there, top left, top left, Oh no, you had 2343 01:56:39.479 --> 01:56:41.640 it here the picture where she was holding his face. 2344 01:56:41.840 --> 01:56:44.439 Oh good, sweet baby Jesus, look at the size of 2345 01:56:44.479 --> 01:56:45.199 those mits. 2346 01:56:45.760 --> 01:56:49.119 Guys, I'm not kidding me. And the feet is weirdness 2347 01:56:49.159 --> 01:56:49.600 going on? 2348 01:56:50.560 --> 01:56:52.399 Wait, wut scroll up? You had the picture and then 2349 01:56:52.439 --> 01:56:54.600 you you scroll away from a hold on. Now, there 2350 01:56:54.640 --> 01:56:56.760 was one where she was holding his face and kissing him. 2351 01:56:56.920 --> 01:56:59.039 Her hands took up his entire fucking dome piece. 2352 01:56:59.039 --> 01:57:02.640 Son, where was it? 2353 01:57:02.800 --> 01:57:07.199 Damn it? It was on screen? Where ah? How do 2354 01:57:07.319 --> 01:57:07.840 we lose it? 2355 01:57:09.840 --> 01:57:10.000 Oh? 2356 01:57:10.079 --> 01:57:15.680 Right here? Okay, look at that ship. I mean she 2357 01:57:15.760 --> 01:57:17.520 got some alien figuers, that's for sure. 2358 01:57:18.159 --> 01:57:20.159 No, those are man hands. 2359 01:57:21.119 --> 01:57:22.840 That's not alien, big dog, that's man. 2360 01:57:23.319 --> 01:57:24.439 It's hard to tell with that. 2361 01:57:24.439 --> 01:57:24.960 That's a man. 2362 01:57:25.720 --> 01:57:28.800 People hands are just it's harder to understand. 2363 01:57:30.600 --> 01:57:34.199 I'm saying, like she's as much of a man as 2364 01:57:34.239 --> 01:57:34.680 big Mike. 2365 01:57:36.359 --> 01:57:38.560 Oh look, here we go. So is Macron known to 2366 01:57:38.560 --> 01:57:41.199 be pretty tall? Or is his wife pretty tall? 2367 01:57:41.960 --> 01:57:44.439 Mhm? You know what, I'm look google that real quick. 2368 01:57:44.479 --> 01:57:46.920 How tall is old Macron? Because I'm curious. 2369 01:57:47.000 --> 01:57:49.399 I mean, she has this picture, so you know. 2370 01:57:50.079 --> 01:57:52.520 I'm telling you there's something weird going on with this situation. 2371 01:57:53.279 --> 01:57:55.079 Like I'm dumb, I'm stupid. 2372 01:57:55.520 --> 01:57:59.279 He's five nine okay, So and she has heels on, 2373 01:57:59.359 --> 01:58:01.960 so she's probably five five five six something like that. 2374 01:58:03.600 --> 01:58:06.079 Are those that tall of heels? Those don't look like 2375 01:58:06.119 --> 01:58:06.800 five inch. 2376 01:58:06.640 --> 01:58:08.399 Pumps to me, my boy, why I was saying three, 2377 01:58:10.319 --> 01:58:12.720 I'm saying that she's yeah, okay, fine, I'll give you 2378 01:58:12.760 --> 01:58:13.560 like five. 2379 01:58:14.079 --> 01:58:17.359 Six something like here we go, check out these shoulders. 2380 01:58:17.399 --> 01:58:20.079 But she's also older, so he spine's compressing dogs, you're 2381 01:58:20.079 --> 01:58:22.119 getting shorter. I don't know. 2382 01:58:22.840 --> 01:58:25.399 To me, this one, this one isn't as obvious as 2383 01:58:25.399 --> 01:58:29.439 Barbara Bush. Like Barbara Bush is clearly a guy. Like 2384 01:58:29.560 --> 01:58:32.279 this one, you're like, Okay, maybe. 2385 01:58:33.439 --> 01:58:36.239 Barbara at least gave birth to a kid, at least 2386 01:58:36.600 --> 01:58:38.199 is not Does Macrone even have kids? 2387 01:58:39.439 --> 01:58:43.760 Dude, she's her fucking fetus is so polluted as Tony 2388 01:58:43.800 --> 01:58:48.039 Montana wants. It's like like she's probably too old right 2389 01:58:48.079 --> 01:58:50.159 to be having kids. Nothing wrong with that, I'm just saying, 2390 01:58:52.479 --> 01:58:56.199 but yeah, like, let me let me show you. 2391 01:58:57.640 --> 01:58:58.560 It's all stage. 2392 01:58:58.640 --> 01:58:58.840 Man. 2393 01:58:59.399 --> 01:59:02.159 I'm still and I think Candice Owns is directly on 2394 01:59:02.279 --> 01:59:03.960 the money by saying that that is a. 2395 01:59:03.920 --> 01:59:06.319 Dude, bro, look at this fucking face and tell me 2396 01:59:06.560 --> 01:59:09.159 that Macrone's wife looks more like a man than this 2397 01:59:09.319 --> 01:59:10.319 gentleman right here. 2398 01:59:11.960 --> 01:59:15.800 Get the looks more manly than than Barbara. 2399 01:59:16.159 --> 01:59:19.760 My mom has a picture personally of this exact picture. 2400 01:59:19.840 --> 01:59:21.640 Nick, No, no, no together. 2401 01:59:23.680 --> 01:59:26.000 There's a picture of Barbara and Brigitte together. 2402 01:59:26.199 --> 01:59:28.720 No no, no, my mother and quit Barbara. 2403 01:59:29.239 --> 01:59:31.199 Oh shit, got you. 2404 01:59:31.720 --> 01:59:32.359 I'm just saying. 2405 01:59:32.640 --> 01:59:36.600 I'm not saying that Barbara wasn't a handsome broad. This 2406 01:59:36.880 --> 01:59:37.800 is I get it. 2407 01:59:38.720 --> 01:59:41.319 This is like, look at those eyes. That's how my 2408 01:59:41.399 --> 01:59:43.399 dad used to look at me. Bro Like, that's how 2409 01:59:43.439 --> 01:59:45.720 I know it's a guy. You know a second like 2410 01:59:46.800 --> 01:59:48.439 this bitch would pierce through your soul. 2411 01:59:50.479 --> 01:59:52.079 Boy, I don't know what you're talking about. Want to 2412 01:59:52.079 --> 01:59:52.720 see that picture. 2413 01:59:52.920 --> 01:59:55.039 She looking like she's looking at a cup of tapioca 2414 01:59:55.079 --> 01:59:56.159 like it's about to go down. 2415 01:59:56.359 --> 01:59:57.359 What are you fucking talking? 2416 01:59:57.640 --> 01:59:59.600 No, she looks like she's about to hit the button 2417 01:59:59.640 --> 02:00:02.600 and send fucking nuclear missile to Cuba. Like that's the 2418 02:00:02.680 --> 02:00:05.600 kind of face. It's like one bad day and she's like, 2419 02:00:05.600 --> 02:00:08.199 you know what, fuck Cuba. Like that's that's that face 2420 02:00:08.279 --> 02:00:08.640 right there. 2421 02:00:10.600 --> 02:00:15.960 I don't get that vibe from the face, but come on, vibe. 2422 02:00:15.880 --> 02:00:18.520 You take off the ear rings, Like, don't look at 2423 02:00:18.520 --> 02:00:21.159 the hair, like, exit out the hair. Imagine this bitch 2424 02:00:21.199 --> 02:00:25.000 is bald. Just for a second, I see what you're saying, 2425 02:00:25.000 --> 02:00:30.319 I'm not. Yeah, the other girl, the Crone's wife. I 2426 02:00:30.319 --> 02:00:31.199 don't know, dude. 2427 02:00:32.199 --> 02:00:34.640 I think Brigitte looks more manly than Barbara. 2428 02:00:36.359 --> 02:00:38.439 That is a hot And also keep in mind this 2429 02:00:38.479 --> 02:00:42.000 is this is Barbara in her Twilight well yeah, yeah, 2430 02:00:42.039 --> 02:00:43.039 that's in her early. 2431 02:00:44.319 --> 02:00:44.760 Going on. 2432 02:00:46.000 --> 02:00:48.800 Oh for sure. Absolutely, Like Look, so. 2433 02:00:48.720 --> 02:00:52.119 Are we saying that Barbara is not George W's mom? 2434 02:00:52.479 --> 02:00:54.600 Are we saying that Michelle Obama? 2435 02:00:54.720 --> 02:00:55.159 For sure? 2436 02:00:55.159 --> 02:00:58.199 He is HW's kid, Like they look a lot of 2437 02:00:58.279 --> 02:01:01.399 like HW and W are clearly connected, but like, maybe 2438 02:01:01.399 --> 02:01:02.920 that's not his mom, is what we're saying. 2439 02:01:03.159 --> 02:01:05.600 Absolutely not the mom. You could say the dad, for sure, 2440 02:01:06.680 --> 02:01:10.279 but this is a dude. You don't get dudes pregnant. Dude, 2441 02:01:10.279 --> 02:01:11.840 that's just not how that works. The same thing with 2442 02:01:11.880 --> 02:01:15.800 Michelle Obama, like those kids didn't come from her, Like 2443 02:01:15.840 --> 02:01:19.279 that didn't happen. There's literally no records. There's there are 2444 02:01:19.479 --> 02:01:22.680 zero pictures on the Internet of Michelle Obama pregnant. 2445 02:01:22.680 --> 02:01:25.319 Or Barbara Bush or Barbara Bush. 2446 02:01:25.319 --> 02:01:27.079 But I'm talking about in the day and age that 2447 02:01:27.159 --> 02:01:29.479 we live in, Michelle Obama, I mean, you would have 2448 02:01:29.520 --> 02:01:31.760 had those kids. How old are your kids, like twenty maybe. 2449 02:01:33.159 --> 02:01:35.760 I mean right now, they I think they just allegedly 2450 02:01:35.840 --> 02:01:38.479 graduated college or they're like getting ready to or something 2451 02:01:38.520 --> 02:01:39.520 like that. Twenty five years. 2452 02:01:39.600 --> 02:01:41.800 Yeah, even when they were little kids, you couldn't. 2453 02:01:41.479 --> 02:01:42.840 Get a fucking polaroid. 2454 02:01:43.079 --> 02:01:46.640 You know what I'm saying, Like, Oh, yeah. 2455 02:01:46.600 --> 02:01:49.359 That's just crazy to me. I'm with you, Uh, spirited animal, 2456 02:01:49.439 --> 02:01:50.720 Go ahead, sir, what are your thoughts? 2457 02:01:52.039 --> 02:01:54.199 Did y'all see the I thought today? 2458 02:01:54.560 --> 02:01:59.399 It's a video with Obama and Diddy and uh, he's 2459 02:01:59.439 --> 02:02:02.840 saying I don't get sweaty and Obama He's like, yeah, well, 2460 02:02:03.319 --> 02:02:06.560 I can't exactly what he said, but the ship was 2461 02:02:06.600 --> 02:02:12.920 really fucking suspicious. And I'm pretty sure Obama went to 2462 02:02:12.960 --> 02:02:15.079 a Diddy party, dude. 2463 02:02:16.159 --> 02:02:18.439 I mean sure, you mean the president that ordered what 2464 02:02:18.560 --> 02:02:20.640 was it, sixty thousand hot dogs to the house like 2465 02:02:20.640 --> 02:02:21.199 that guy. 2466 02:02:21.159 --> 02:02:22.560 Sixty five thousand dollars. 2467 02:02:22.720 --> 02:02:24.720 I believe whatever it was. 2468 02:02:25.600 --> 02:02:32.239 But like that, that's just that that makes my spine quality. 2469 02:02:32.880 --> 02:02:35.760 Dude. Obama is the most frail looking man I've ever seen. 2470 02:02:36.800 --> 02:02:39.199 I don't even understand how anybody thought he was a 2471 02:02:39.239 --> 02:02:44.319 strong president. He I'd say that Biden was probably stronger 2472 02:02:44.359 --> 02:02:44.720 than him. 2473 02:02:44.840 --> 02:02:47.520 I mean, his butthole was probably strong. He's probably got 2474 02:02:47.560 --> 02:02:49.960 a nice, you know, tight little brown eye that he's 2475 02:02:50.000 --> 02:02:53.319 probably proud of. But that's about as strong as have. 2476 02:02:53.319 --> 02:02:57.359 You seen the hog on fucking Michael. He don't stretch 2477 02:02:57.399 --> 02:02:58.600 out the other tear yo dogs. 2478 02:02:58.760 --> 02:03:00.680 Yeah, but I'm also one to believe that. You know, 2479 02:03:00.760 --> 02:03:03.680 Barack was absolutely carrying around a jade egg up his 2480 02:03:03.760 --> 02:03:05.439 asshole on a daily basis as well. 2481 02:03:06.800 --> 02:03:09.880 Also say he couldn't take a rebound to save his life. 2482 02:03:11.039 --> 02:03:12.159 God, No, he couldn't. 2483 02:03:13.119 --> 02:03:15.640 He was he was mor that broke his nose at 2484 02:03:15.680 --> 02:03:17.199 Camp David, so homeboy. 2485 02:03:17.199 --> 02:03:19.720 Every time you saw him, he was always like doing kegels, 2486 02:03:20.000 --> 02:03:23.640 you know what I'm saying, Like he was just fucking He's. 2487 02:03:23.479 --> 02:03:23.920 Like is that? 2488 02:03:24.000 --> 02:03:25.079 I always said that face on the. 2489 02:03:26.560 --> 02:03:28.800 That like that, like he just took a bite out 2490 02:03:28.800 --> 02:03:30.600 of a lemon, My fellow America. 2491 02:03:31.439 --> 02:03:33.720 I gotta get it get it right. I gotta get 2492 02:03:33.720 --> 02:03:35.479 it right. I gotta get it tight for Big Mike. 2493 02:03:37.239 --> 02:03:39.840 Gotta get it right, gotta gotta get it tight for 2494 02:03:40.039 --> 02:03:42.039 uh Michael, I mean Michelle. 2495 02:03:42.119 --> 02:03:45.479 And how many times did he accidentally say that too, dude? 2496 02:03:45.520 --> 02:03:47.479 Way too many for comfort? 2497 02:03:47.760 --> 02:03:50.800 Like you never heard George h W call him Brett, 2498 02:03:50.800 --> 02:03:53.239 I mean Barbara. No, no, no, he kept it together. 2499 02:03:53.680 --> 02:03:56.199 Oh Obama couldn't keep it together, big dog bro. 2500 02:03:56.279 --> 02:03:58.800 I've known a lot of Michelle's. I've never accidentally called 2501 02:03:58.840 --> 02:04:03.239 them Michael or never, never in my life. Never, Like 2502 02:04:03.359 --> 02:04:04.479 you don't make it. 2503 02:04:04.399 --> 02:04:07.600 Would make more sense to accidentally call them Mitchell instead 2504 02:04:07.600 --> 02:04:10.199 of Michelle. I would never, but like it makes more 2505 02:04:10.239 --> 02:04:13.039 sense out loud. How do you fuck up that hard? 2506 02:04:13.079 --> 02:04:14.920 The eye's making a whole different. 2507 02:04:14.600 --> 02:04:18.199 Noise, maybe even anyway, maybe even a Michelle. If we're 2508 02:04:18.199 --> 02:04:21.560 getting a little French with it, you know, yeah. 2509 02:04:21.479 --> 02:04:26.039 You know my fitness CONSIGLIERI Miche Like okay, fine, you 2510 02:04:26.079 --> 02:04:28.600 meant to say Michelle, but all right, you're trying to 2511 02:04:28.640 --> 02:04:31.439 be a little French with it. But no, no Michael, 2512 02:04:31.720 --> 02:04:33.680 I mean Michelle, Like, dude, stop it. 2513 02:04:33.880 --> 02:04:35.319 Nobody makes me leave my own blood. 2514 02:04:35.600 --> 02:04:35.840 Marely. 2515 02:04:35.880 --> 02:04:36.880 Macrone's the Antichrist. 2516 02:04:37.600 --> 02:04:40.359 Yeah, let's get back to that. So the Antichrist, and 2517 02:04:40.399 --> 02:04:44.039 this is according to Revelation Chapter thirteen, Versus sixteen and seventeen, 2518 02:04:44.319 --> 02:04:48.800 the Antichrist will be an economic genius. Macrone's impressive economic 2519 02:04:48.840 --> 02:04:52.399 acumen is demonstrated by his rapid ascent within the Rothchild's 2520 02:04:52.439 --> 02:04:55.319 banking corporation, where he became a partner in just two 2521 02:04:55.439 --> 02:04:59.079 years and earned the nickname in clothes the Mozart of 2522 02:04:59.199 --> 02:05:02.119 Finance after they're brokering a ten billion dollar deal in 2523 02:05:02.199 --> 02:05:05.800 a single meeting. Despite claiming to not be a millionaire, 2524 02:05:05.840 --> 02:05:08.159 his net worth is it already stands at thirty one 2525 02:05:08.199 --> 02:05:11.880 point five million. His economic expertise is further showcase during 2526 02:05:11.880 --> 02:05:17.560 his tenures as Deputy Secretary General at the LC or LCA. 2527 02:05:17.800 --> 02:05:20.279 I don't know how you'd say that, And the Minister 2528 02:05:20.359 --> 02:05:25.079 of Economy and Finance next one Dan, chapter seven, verse twenty, 2529 02:05:25.119 --> 02:05:28.000 The Antichrist will be an intellectual genius. So we had 2530 02:05:28.039 --> 02:05:30.960 economic genius, now we're at intellectual genius. It says from 2531 02:05:30.960 --> 02:05:36.039 a young age, Macrone's exceptional, exceptional intellectual abilities were apparent 2532 02:05:36.079 --> 02:05:38.399 to those around him. His teacher at the time, who 2533 02:05:38.439 --> 02:05:41.000 is now his wife, Brigitte. Oh say so she was 2534 02:05:41.039 --> 02:05:42.880 the teacher that's creepy. 2535 02:05:42.920 --> 02:05:44.640 Oh no, no, that's not a joke. 2536 02:05:44.840 --> 02:05:47.960 This is not a joke. She was a teacher quote 2537 02:05:48.039 --> 02:05:50.840 unquote at the school who saw him in a school 2538 02:05:50.840 --> 02:05:53.600 play when he was fourteen and fell in love with him. 2539 02:05:53.840 --> 02:05:56.720 Oh, he groomed him like this is not a hypothetical. Well, 2540 02:05:56.720 --> 02:06:00.000 and she was impressed by his remarkable intellect. Her quote said, 2541 02:06:00.399 --> 02:06:03.439 he wasn't a teenager. He had a relationship of equals 2542 02:06:03.520 --> 02:06:06.439 with other adults. That's why you decided to bet him. 2543 02:06:06.439 --> 02:06:08.760 You betch that sounds patoey. 2544 02:06:10.640 --> 02:06:14.079 I highly recommend everybody look into what Candace Owens has 2545 02:06:14.119 --> 02:06:17.560 been showing and bringing to light about Brigitte Macrone and 2546 02:06:17.600 --> 02:06:20.319 you make your own comparisons. I'll say that Candace hasn't 2547 02:06:20.359 --> 02:06:23.199 missed yet. That's where you do with that information what 2548 02:06:23.279 --> 02:06:23.640 you want. 2549 02:06:23.720 --> 02:06:26.000 That's where the story of That's My Boy, that Adam 2550 02:06:26.039 --> 02:06:30.640 Sandler movie was created. You've seen that movie? You ever 2551 02:06:30.680 --> 02:06:34.000 seen That's My Boy? Because it was fucking his teacher? 2552 02:06:35.319 --> 02:06:37.640 Oh no, I mean there's a couple of examples of 2553 02:06:38.479 --> 02:06:41.239 there was actually a very famous one in America. A 2554 02:06:41.319 --> 02:06:43.920 high school kid got his female teacher pregnant. But she 2555 02:06:44.079 --> 02:06:46.239 was married to a guy that made a lifetime movie 2556 02:06:46.279 --> 02:06:47.800 about that shit too. It was a whole thing, and 2557 02:06:47.840 --> 02:06:50.199 then they ended up once she heard her jail time 2558 02:06:50.239 --> 02:06:51.720 and got out. They're still married to this day, by 2559 02:06:51.720 --> 02:06:53.880 the way, but uh, they have multiple kids. 2560 02:06:54.039 --> 02:06:55.479 But whatever. 2561 02:06:55.840 --> 02:06:57.960 The whole machron thing, like, yeah, the more you look 2562 02:06:58.000 --> 02:07:00.720 into Brigitte, the more none of it makes sense. I'm 2563 02:07:00.720 --> 02:07:03.279 telling y'all, look at what our girl can just be saying. 2564 02:07:03.800 --> 02:07:07.119 So he had a relationship of equals with other adults. 2565 02:07:07.199 --> 02:07:12.920 His former classmate Antoine Marguette similarly described him as possessing 2566 02:07:13.039 --> 02:07:16.920 Olympic intelligence and remark that everyone who encountered him knew 2567 02:07:16.960 --> 02:07:19.720 that he was somewhat extraordinary. If you have read the 2568 02:07:19.840 --> 02:07:22.800 Left Behind series, you might find it amusing to notice 2569 02:07:23.119 --> 02:07:26.800 how much the fictional Antichrist in the series resembles Macron. 2570 02:07:27.159 --> 02:07:30.119 Both are portrayed as highly intelligent individuals who stood out 2571 02:07:30.199 --> 02:07:34.319 from others at a young age. So there's one, okay, 2572 02:07:35.159 --> 02:07:38.239 Number eight, The Antichrist will establish a seven year peace 2573 02:07:38.279 --> 02:07:42.279 treaty with Israel. Now we're getting specific. So mcrone has 2574 02:07:42.319 --> 02:07:45.560 expressed his desire to offer safety and security to Israel 2575 02:07:45.600 --> 02:07:48.680 and to facilitate peace between Israel and Palestine, which has 2576 02:07:48.760 --> 02:07:51.119 yet to be achieved by anyone. He intends to play 2577 02:07:51.159 --> 02:07:54.079 a significant role in renewal of talks between the two parties, 2578 02:07:54.279 --> 02:07:56.800 and the French have already initiated their own peace plan. 2579 02:07:57.039 --> 02:08:01.439 If President Donald Trump fails to present his own Israeli 2580 02:08:01.479 --> 02:08:05.199 Palestine peace planned next month. Macron is reportedly planning on 2581 02:08:05.800 --> 02:08:09.920 to unveil his own proposal. Okay, well this was in 2582 02:08:09.960 --> 02:08:11.680 twenty eighteen, and they ain't no peace. 2583 02:08:14.119 --> 02:08:16.600 I'm finding a few issues with this article, but I 2584 02:08:16.640 --> 02:08:18.119 don't want to jump the gun on this. 2585 02:08:18.239 --> 02:08:22.760 Let's say this is christianevidence dot net. Okay, this is 2586 02:08:22.800 --> 02:08:24.119 that's your people right there, but right. 2587 02:08:24.039 --> 02:08:26.039 No, No, we're in about in twenty eighteen. 2588 02:08:26.119 --> 02:08:28.560 He's so financially smart, then why are they entering your 2589 02:08:28.640 --> 02:08:30.439 second recession in four years? 2590 02:08:30.960 --> 02:08:32.239 And if he's so smart and. 2591 02:08:32.199 --> 02:08:34.119 So beloved by the people, then why are the farmer 2592 02:08:34.239 --> 02:08:37.960 spring shit all over the government buildings right now? I'm sorry, 2593 02:08:37.960 --> 02:08:38.680 I just how. 2594 02:08:38.600 --> 02:08:41.520 Do you know that's not on purpose? I mean, wouldn't 2595 02:08:41.520 --> 02:08:43.760 the Antichrist do something some shit like that, Like it 2596 02:08:43.760 --> 02:08:45.000 wouldn't be necessarily good. 2597 02:08:45.079 --> 02:08:49.479 No, people, the Antichrist is supposed to beloved by everyone, 2598 02:08:49.760 --> 02:08:52.279 like unanimously, except for those that have discernmented to see 2599 02:08:52.319 --> 02:08:55.720 him as the Antichrist. But let's continue this Christian website's 2600 02:08:55.760 --> 02:08:57.279 clearly on one. 2601 02:08:58.560 --> 02:09:01.479 Let's see the anti cris will seek the destruction of 2602 02:09:01.520 --> 02:09:04.520 the Jewish state, betraying the Jewish people. Just a few 2603 02:09:04.600 --> 02:09:09.039 days ago. In twenty eighteen, French Jews expressed their shock 2604 02:09:09.079 --> 02:09:12.199 and horror over the news that the President Emmanuel Macrone 2605 02:09:12.239 --> 02:09:17.000 plans to honor Marshall Philippe Pititaine, a notorious Nazi collaborator 2606 02:09:17.039 --> 02:09:19.800 who was responsible for the deportation of tens of thousands 2607 02:09:19.800 --> 02:09:23.239 of Jews to death camps. Oh, that's not very pro 2608 02:09:23.319 --> 02:09:25.159 Jew of him. 2609 02:09:25.199 --> 02:09:27.600 Well, we look at what happened with the Olympics in 2610 02:09:27.680 --> 02:09:30.359 Paris not too terribly long ago. It seems like he's 2611 02:09:31.159 --> 02:09:33.520 you know now. Granted, it wasn't like he signed off 2612 02:09:33.560 --> 02:09:37.039 on what the Olympic committee did, but it took place 2613 02:09:37.079 --> 02:09:37.680 in Paris. 2614 02:09:37.920 --> 02:09:39.439 So do with that what you want. 2615 02:09:39.600 --> 02:09:42.479 Number ten, The Antichrist will have a powerful military force 2616 02:09:42.520 --> 02:09:47.159 at his disposal. France's military is considered okay, let's read it. 2617 02:09:47.199 --> 02:09:47.760 Let's read it. 2618 02:09:47.880 --> 02:09:47.960 So. 2619 02:09:48.079 --> 02:09:51.119 France's military is considered one of the strongest in the EU, 2620 02:09:51.439 --> 02:09:55.159 likely ranking first or second alongside the UK due to 2621 02:09:55.279 --> 02:09:59.000 both countries possessing nuclear arsenals. On a darker note, France 2622 02:09:59.079 --> 02:10:02.319 is also known for the invention and frequent use of 2623 02:10:02.359 --> 02:10:06.159 the guillotine throughout its history. Interestingly, the guillotine is believed 2624 02:10:06.159 --> 02:10:08.960 by some to be the primary instrument that the Antichrist 2625 02:10:08.960 --> 02:10:11.560 will use to execute the martyrs during the Great Tribulation. 2626 02:10:13.359 --> 02:10:16.000 All right, I can't, I can't hold on now. The 2627 02:10:16.079 --> 02:10:18.600 last guillotine death was in like seventy two, which is 2628 02:10:18.600 --> 02:10:20.680 pretty dope. I wish they would bring it back. I'm 2629 02:10:20.680 --> 02:10:25.119 here for it. First off. Second off, okay, paus, France's 2630 02:10:25.199 --> 02:10:28.600 military is the arguably strongest in the EU next to 2631 02:10:28.640 --> 02:10:31.680 the UK. In what fucking universe and with what kind 2632 02:10:31.720 --> 02:10:34.960 of metrics are we looking at, dude? Germany currently could 2633 02:10:35.039 --> 02:10:38.039 trounce France in their sleep like they did in World 2634 02:10:38.039 --> 02:10:40.439 War Two. I'm not saying the French military is a 2635 02:10:40.439 --> 02:10:42.760 bunch of punks, but I'm saying that's saying that they 2636 02:10:42.800 --> 02:10:45.920 are the strongest in the EU is not even an 2637 02:10:46.039 --> 02:10:52.119 argumentable statement. That's I'll give them top ten, sure, top 2638 02:10:52.159 --> 02:10:53.159 ten in the EU. 2639 02:10:53.760 --> 02:10:56.279 Well, and let's just move on. So the Antichrist will 2640 02:10:56.359 --> 02:10:59.159 rule a ten nation confederacy. It says Macron has been 2641 02:10:59.199 --> 02:11:02.239 advocating for the formation of a Coalition of the Willing, 2642 02:11:02.319 --> 02:11:06.560 consisting of ten cores European nations to establish a joint 2643 02:11:06.560 --> 02:11:11.199 EU army, enabling them to act in unison during emergency situations. 2644 02:11:11.239 --> 02:11:14.279 And to secure Britain's military cooperation upon its exit from 2645 02:11:14.319 --> 02:11:17.399 the EU. Just this week, a coalition of ten European 2646 02:11:17.399 --> 02:11:20.479 militaries aimed at safeguarding the borders of the continent was 2647 02:11:20.520 --> 02:11:24.600 introduced to Paris, following Macrone's call for a real European army. 2648 02:11:25.319 --> 02:11:26.399 That's kind of specific. 2649 02:11:26.399 --> 02:11:29.079 Oh so, like in case, in case, like Russia invaded 2650 02:11:29.119 --> 02:11:31.680 Europe or something like that, these European nations will be 2651 02:11:31.720 --> 02:11:34.199 able to join together to stop it. How's that working 2652 02:11:34.199 --> 02:11:35.319 out for Hi'm just curious. 2653 02:11:35.560 --> 02:11:40.920 The antigrist will proclaim himself as God. Oh, here we go, Macron. 2654 02:11:41.439 --> 02:11:41.960 There is that. 2655 02:11:42.600 --> 02:11:46.960 Macrone has proclaimed that he will, in quotes, rule like Jupiter, 2656 02:11:47.279 --> 02:11:50.039 the supreme deity in Roman and Greek mythology. He has 2657 02:11:50.079 --> 02:11:54.319 also been given several titles in Europe, including Jupiter, Europe's Savior, 2658 02:11:54.479 --> 02:11:57.720 and the Son King Reborn, and appears to relish the 2659 02:11:57.760 --> 02:12:00.960 attention that they bring him. He even he has even 2660 02:12:01.119 --> 02:12:04.680 jestingly drawn attention to his own name, which means God 2661 02:12:04.840 --> 02:12:07.479 is with us in Hebrew. What is interesting is that 2662 02:12:07.520 --> 02:12:09.640 the is that his first name is not only a 2663 02:12:09.680 --> 02:12:12.560 reference to God. Each part of his full name, except 2664 02:12:12.600 --> 02:12:15.359 for his last name, alludes to God or Jesus in 2665 02:12:15.439 --> 02:12:18.520 some way. So here's the breakdown of his name. Emmanuel 2666 02:12:18.680 --> 02:12:21.960 means God with us, Gene means God is gracious, Michael 2667 02:12:22.000 --> 02:12:26.159 means who is like God, Frederic means peaceful ruler. And 2668 02:12:26.279 --> 02:12:30.119 macrone a noun meaning a written or printed mark. 2669 02:12:30.720 --> 02:12:31.079 WHOA. 2670 02:12:32.199 --> 02:12:35.760 All right, that's how so. 2671 02:12:37.319 --> 02:12:38.439 Homies and welcomed. 2672 02:12:38.880 --> 02:12:41.680 Welcome to the conspiracy, Like welcome to the conspiracy. 2673 02:12:42.119 --> 02:12:45.119 Yes, you, dude, his last name is literally a written 2674 02:12:45.239 --> 02:12:46.239 or printed mark. 2675 02:12:46.359 --> 02:12:50.760 Dude. This something weird, something weird. 2676 02:12:50.760 --> 02:12:55.279 That extra. That's extra as fuck right there, Jacob. 2677 02:12:55.319 --> 02:12:57.560 Don't know how many y'all got homies in France, but 2678 02:12:58.039 --> 02:13:00.439 he's not like it depends on who you ask. There 2679 02:13:00.439 --> 02:13:02.760 are those that like vehemently support him, and there are 2680 02:13:02.800 --> 02:13:04.760 those that seriously. 2681 02:13:04.199 --> 02:13:06.800 Don't, but they don't off the nation. 2682 02:13:07.640 --> 02:13:09.840 They don't. Yeah they don't. 2683 02:13:09.880 --> 02:13:14.000 Yeah, I was over there, trust me, I was there 2684 02:13:14.119 --> 02:13:15.119 for years. 2685 02:13:15.439 --> 02:13:18.720 Nope, Nicholas, what are your thoughts on. 2686 02:13:18.720 --> 02:13:19.000 This, sir? 2687 02:13:22.079 --> 02:13:25.680 I I actually wondered this myself, just on the on 2688 02:13:25.720 --> 02:13:32.279 the basis of like the Antichrist being beloved by all. 2689 02:13:32.760 --> 02:13:34.439 That's the one that I think about the most all 2690 02:13:34.439 --> 02:13:38.359 the time, not that I even really think about it 2691 02:13:38.479 --> 02:13:41.119 being real in general based on my but but that 2692 02:13:41.199 --> 02:13:44.439 one always sticks out to me, not necessarily being one person. 2693 02:13:44.479 --> 02:13:48.359 But who would you think, uh would even if we're 2694 02:13:48.399 --> 02:13:53.520 only using that metric, who would it be, Because like, 2695 02:13:53.600 --> 02:13:59.439 I can't see anybody even agreeing even like of any 2696 02:13:59.479 --> 02:14:01.840 person have or in this day and age that would 2697 02:14:01.880 --> 02:14:03.600 even fit the bill of beloved by all. 2698 02:14:03.960 --> 02:14:06.960 Actually, I actually thought about this. If Trump is able 2699 02:14:07.000 --> 02:14:09.600 to abolish the irs, it's gonna be a lot of 2700 02:14:09.600 --> 02:14:10.479 love coming his way. 2701 02:14:12.079 --> 02:14:14.319 I don't believe that the Antichrist is going to be 2702 02:14:14.319 --> 02:14:18.079 an elected official of any nation personally. I could be 2703 02:14:18.079 --> 02:14:21.319 so wrong, could be totally wrong here. I don't believe 2704 02:14:21.359 --> 02:14:24.600 he's going to be somebody who is a general. He 2705 02:14:24.640 --> 02:14:28.199 may be somebody like with military background in his earlier years, 2706 02:14:28.199 --> 02:14:30.399 if you will. I don't believe he's gonna be some 2707 02:14:30.600 --> 02:14:34.880 big CEO type either. I believe he's going to be 2708 02:14:34.960 --> 02:14:38.239 somebody with and when I say the term power, I 2709 02:14:38.279 --> 02:14:42.920 don't mean, uh like political power, although he'll have money 2710 02:14:42.960 --> 02:14:46.239 to sway political elections and things like that. But he's 2711 02:14:46.279 --> 02:14:50.600 gonna be somebody who on the surface appears to everyone 2712 02:14:51.079 --> 02:14:53.720 to be out there doing good things for the right reason. 2713 02:14:53.800 --> 02:14:57.119 For the betterment of humanity, asking nothing for himself at first. 2714 02:14:57.239 --> 02:15:00.079 Like that's how he's gonna get known. It's gonna be 2715 02:15:00.119 --> 02:15:02.760 a guy to where everybody is like, oh you mean John. 2716 02:15:03.039 --> 02:15:05.159 Have you heard about John? Oh my god, he's the greatest. 2717 02:15:05.199 --> 02:15:08.079 He's over here digging wells in Africa. He's over here 2718 02:15:08.319 --> 02:15:12.119 breaking slavery chains in this nation. He's he's breaking down 2719 02:15:12.159 --> 02:15:14.359 this he's doing these things, Like, who can ever hate 2720 02:15:14.359 --> 02:15:17.000 this guy? He's amazing. It's gonna be that type of 2721 02:15:17.000 --> 02:15:17.319 a guy. 2722 02:15:17.479 --> 02:15:17.640 Yeah. 2723 02:15:17.680 --> 02:15:20.000 I don't believe there's any politicians that fit that mold. 2724 02:15:20.079 --> 02:15:22.720 Yeah, but we're talking about literally, like look at all 2725 02:15:22.720 --> 02:15:24.840 the things that we read. It would have to be 2726 02:15:24.920 --> 02:15:28.640 somebody with some kind of political sway, at least at 2727 02:15:28.640 --> 02:15:32.720 the bare minimum. So it's not just regular old Joe 2728 02:15:32.760 --> 02:15:34.239 blow off the street. It's going to be a name 2729 02:15:34.279 --> 02:15:38.000 that is at least somewhat known in politics. I would imagine, 2730 02:15:38.039 --> 02:15:38.920 according to this. 2731 02:15:40.439 --> 02:15:44.840 Known in politics. Just the first on the world stage. 2732 02:15:45.039 --> 02:15:47.319 I mean, just right here, the Antichrist will start his 2733 02:15:47.359 --> 02:15:51.920 ascent to power from relative obscurity. Okay, maybe so he'll 2734 02:15:51.960 --> 02:15:54.640 be a nobody. The Antichrist will be a prince. I 2735 02:15:54.680 --> 02:15:55.840 wouldn't call that a nobody. 2736 02:15:57.479 --> 02:15:59.359 No, no, no. But at the same time, if you 2737 02:15:59.479 --> 02:16:01.439 do so many any good things, you understand that you 2738 02:16:01.479 --> 02:16:04.760 can attain titles you can be like, for instance, just 2739 02:16:04.760 --> 02:16:06.920 throw this out. And I'm not saying Elon's Antichrist. Just 2740 02:16:06.920 --> 02:16:10.000 bear with me for two seconds here. Elon started off 2741 02:16:10.079 --> 02:16:11.800 as a nobody that anybody would know. 2742 02:16:11.880 --> 02:16:13.439 Yeah, he came from a little bit of some wealth 2743 02:16:13.439 --> 02:16:14.199 in South Africa. 2744 02:16:14.600 --> 02:16:16.600 But he built his company up to a level to 2745 02:16:16.600 --> 02:16:18.960 where now you could argue he would be a part 2746 02:16:18.960 --> 02:16:20.680 of the modern day royal class, would you not? 2747 02:16:22.039 --> 02:16:24.760 Sure? Yeah, yeah, because corporations are on the y the 2748 02:16:24.760 --> 02:16:27.479 money to sway elections, for sure. 2749 02:16:27.560 --> 02:16:27.800 Yeah. 2750 02:16:27.840 --> 02:16:27.920 No. 2751 02:16:28.039 --> 02:16:30.640 And and that's the thing. But you know, the problem 2752 02:16:30.640 --> 02:16:33.040 with Elon too is that he's also you know, there's 2753 02:16:33.040 --> 02:16:34.520 not a lot of people who really fuck with Elon 2754 02:16:34.600 --> 02:16:37.319 that much anymore, especially not the liberal people. Dude. Remember 2755 02:16:37.360 --> 02:16:41.000 we heard that they're literally like painting over their Tesla 2756 02:16:41.639 --> 02:16:43.959 emblem on their cars or removing it or some kind 2757 02:16:44.000 --> 02:16:45.040 of shit over in California. 2758 02:16:46.399 --> 02:16:48.680 But that's what I'm saying now. I'm not amusing Elon 2759 02:16:48.799 --> 02:16:51.399 as an example. I am not saying he's the Antichrist. 2760 02:16:51.479 --> 02:16:53.799 I do not believe that for multiple reasons, right, But 2761 02:16:53.840 --> 02:16:58.079 my point is it'll be somebody who gets that level 2762 02:16:58.079 --> 02:17:01.719 of money, Tony Stark style money, and instead of using 2763 02:17:01.760 --> 02:17:04.239 it for weapons designs and being a man whore, he's 2764 02:17:04.280 --> 02:17:06.879 over here using that money for the betterment of humanity 2765 02:17:06.879 --> 02:17:09.120 and everybody loves him. And yeah, he has the money 2766 02:17:09.159 --> 02:17:11.239 to sway elections, but he chooses not to and all 2767 02:17:11.239 --> 02:17:14.360 of these it's gonna be a person like that. And currently, 2768 02:17:14.399 --> 02:17:16.879 to answer your question, Nick, I have no idea who 2769 02:17:16.879 --> 02:17:19.719 fits that mold. I don't believe it's gonna be a 2770 02:17:19.799 --> 02:17:23.399 president of any nation or or anybody involved with politics, 2771 02:17:23.399 --> 02:17:25.719 because right off the rip, being involved with politics means 2772 02:17:25.719 --> 02:17:28.440 that half the people disagree with you and don't like you, don't. 2773 02:17:28.479 --> 02:17:29.680 I don't think it's gonna be somebody. 2774 02:17:29.760 --> 02:17:31.920 It's one thing to have an opinion, and then there's 2775 02:17:32.040 --> 02:17:35.040 another thing to go against what literally the Bible is 2776 02:17:35.040 --> 02:17:37.959 describing the Antichrist as, and you're the Bible is describing 2777 02:17:37.959 --> 02:17:40.360 a character, describing an entirely different character. 2778 02:17:42.120 --> 02:17:43.959 What did I say that goes against what the Bible 2779 02:17:44.079 --> 02:17:44.319 just says. 2780 02:17:44.360 --> 02:17:46.079 I mean, look at this one. The Antichrist will likely 2781 02:17:46.120 --> 02:17:48.120 emerge from the ranks of the global elite who are 2782 02:17:48.120 --> 02:17:50.719 paving the way for the prophesied one world political and 2783 02:17:50.760 --> 02:17:54.639 economic system. Like, that's not gonna be somebody who's helping 2784 02:17:54.680 --> 02:17:55.760 build wells in Africa. 2785 02:17:57.280 --> 02:18:00.799 No no, But my point is, like the global that 2786 02:18:00.840 --> 02:18:02.120 doesn't mean a presidency. 2787 02:18:02.799 --> 02:18:05.079 That could mean a family that comes from. 2788 02:18:05.000 --> 02:18:08.680 Old, old, old, old money. But it also says relative obscurity. 2789 02:18:09.000 --> 02:18:11.159 So it's not a guy that you're gonna know based 2790 02:18:11.159 --> 02:18:13.559 off of his family name. So like what you see 2791 02:18:13.600 --> 02:18:14.440 what I'm saying, Well. 2792 02:18:14.280 --> 02:18:17.760 It says right here, the power in Revelation thirteen to seven, 2793 02:18:18.280 --> 02:18:21.280 the power was given to him over all kindreds, tongues, 2794 02:18:21.280 --> 02:18:21.959 and nations. 2795 02:18:22.360 --> 02:18:25.559 So I mean that's what I'm saying. Power is given 2796 02:18:25.600 --> 02:18:29.000 to him, right right. He didn't take it from an 2797 02:18:29.000 --> 02:18:31.319 election or something like that. He didn't take it from 2798 02:18:31.360 --> 02:18:33.159 military conquest or anything like that. 2799 02:18:33.479 --> 02:18:36.840 It's not like that, Oh, because officials are all elected. 2800 02:18:36.920 --> 02:18:37.680 We still believe that. 2801 02:18:39.200 --> 02:18:40.479 No, no, no, but that's my point. 2802 02:18:40.520 --> 02:18:42.760 It might be somebody who is put into an appointed 2803 02:18:42.799 --> 02:18:45.840 position and made a prince, if you will, But I 2804 02:18:45.840 --> 02:18:48.239 don't believe it's going to be and I could again, 2805 02:18:48.280 --> 02:18:50.959 I could be very wrong here. It could absolutely become 2806 02:18:51.719 --> 02:18:54.319 the president of the next president of Israel might be 2807 02:18:54.360 --> 02:18:57.159 the Antichrist. I don't know this, but I feel like 2808 02:18:57.200 --> 02:19:00.639 if it's anybody with any kind of political power, whatever 2809 02:19:00.680 --> 02:19:04.200 their standpoints are, whatever their platform is, half of their 2810 02:19:04.360 --> 02:19:07.200 land is going to disagree with them, and that completely 2811 02:19:07.239 --> 02:19:09.200 negates the whole everybody, Liken, the thing. 2812 02:19:09.120 --> 02:19:10.879 I could be wrong, you know what this thing is though. 2813 02:19:11.600 --> 02:19:14.559 The thing is about this whole Antichrist conversation. Though, is 2814 02:19:14.600 --> 02:19:18.319 that literally two thousand years ago from what I was, 2815 02:19:18.399 --> 02:19:20.360 I was doing a little bit of research. Dude. A 2816 02:19:20.360 --> 02:19:23.680 lot of the people, even when they were constructing the Bible, 2817 02:19:23.799 --> 02:19:26.879 they thought literally the time, like the end was nigh, 2818 02:19:27.079 --> 02:19:29.120 like it was happening. It was going to be happening 2819 02:19:29.200 --> 02:19:32.040 any day now, back in like three hundred, you know, 2820 02:19:32.120 --> 02:19:35.840 ad and so like, people have always suspected that the 2821 02:19:35.959 --> 02:19:38.600 end is nigh. Like people, dude, if you were a thousand, 2822 02:19:38.639 --> 02:19:41.399 if you live to be a thousand years old, imagine 2823 02:19:41.520 --> 02:19:44.399 like any day now and the end is coming. And 2824 02:19:44.399 --> 02:19:46.040 then you live a thousand years and it's like, wait, 2825 02:19:46.200 --> 02:19:49.000 what the like nothing ever happened? Like that's kind of weird, 2826 02:19:49.280 --> 02:19:50.760 you know, Like, but that's the thing. 2827 02:19:50.680 --> 02:19:52.760 Is that I mean, we're always ready. 2828 02:19:52.479 --> 02:19:55.200 For the end times. It's like maybe it's maybe it's 2829 02:19:55.239 --> 02:19:57.319 just not going to happen that way. 2830 02:19:58.959 --> 02:20:01.040 I am not worried about the end times until they 2831 02:20:01.079 --> 02:20:04.159 rebuild the temple. That's just me, right, I know the 2832 02:20:04.200 --> 02:20:07.639 red halfer. Oh yeah, sure, sure, sure, they have a 2833 02:20:07.680 --> 02:20:10.719 red cow. That's dope and that's useful for their purposes 2834 02:20:10.719 --> 02:20:14.799 of sacrifice. The temple's not rebuilt yet, so with chilling 2835 02:20:15.200 --> 02:20:16.000 as of this moment. 2836 02:20:16.520 --> 02:20:17.399 In a few years we'll. 2837 02:20:17.319 --> 02:20:19.840 See, Jamie, I love your boxer. I grew up with boxers. 2838 02:20:19.879 --> 02:20:22.959 My dog Fatty, he's half boxer. Squeeze them cheeks for me. 2839 02:20:23.159 --> 02:20:26.200 Squeeze them cheeks for me, dude. Yeah, there you go. 2840 02:20:26.639 --> 02:20:28.079 That's how you know you got a boxer when you 2841 02:20:28.079 --> 02:20:32.159 get a handful of cheeks, dude. So anyway, let's go 2842 02:20:32.200 --> 02:20:35.639 to this one. The Antichrist will speak blasphemies against God. 2843 02:20:36.000 --> 02:20:39.600 So Macrone has consistently emphasized the importance of secularism and 2844 02:20:39.639 --> 02:20:42.319 free speech in France, which includes the right to criticize 2845 02:20:42.319 --> 02:20:46.559 and satirize religion. In twenty twenty, he defended a teenager's 2846 02:20:46.639 --> 02:20:50.399 right to criticize Islam and stated that blasphemy is no crime. 2847 02:20:50.680 --> 02:20:53.559 In response to the backlash that she received, he also 2848 02:20:53.639 --> 02:20:56.959 maintained that in France, we have the right to blaspheme, 2849 02:20:57.760 --> 02:21:02.719 to criticize, and to caricature religens. That lines up. 2850 02:21:03.079 --> 02:21:06.040 Okay, very true, It's very French of him. 2851 02:21:06.360 --> 02:21:09.200 Yeah yeah. The next one, the Antichrist, would likely present 2852 02:21:09.280 --> 02:21:12.239 solutions to global issues and appear as a savior to many. 2853 02:21:12.600 --> 02:21:15.600 So Macron has taken a leading role in addressing global 2854 02:21:15.639 --> 02:21:18.920 issues such as climate change in COVID nineteen. His his 2855 02:21:19.000 --> 02:21:23.200 proactive and forward thinking approach towards numerous issues affecting Europe 2856 02:21:23.440 --> 02:21:26.239 and the world has led him to being dubbed Europe's savior. 2857 02:21:27.239 --> 02:21:28.319 I mean, hey, dude, get that. 2858 02:21:28.319 --> 02:21:31.200 Mask on Paris climbing accord. Clearly Macrone's the guy. 2859 02:21:31.879 --> 02:21:33.479 I mean literally Paris you know. 2860 02:21:34.879 --> 02:21:34.959 So. 2861 02:21:35.200 --> 02:21:37.680 In fact, a magazine owned by the Rothschild family went 2862 02:21:37.760 --> 02:21:40.079 so far as to publish publish a photo of him 2863 02:21:40.120 --> 02:21:45.520 walking on water in a christ like fashion. Wow, look 2864 02:21:45.520 --> 02:21:51.680 at this in the economics. Holy shit, Wait, what is 2865 02:21:51.719 --> 02:21:56.479 this sticking out of those snakes coming out of the water. Dude, 2866 02:21:56.520 --> 02:21:59.040 If those are snakes coming out of the water, didn't 2867 02:21:59.040 --> 02:21:59.559 it look like it? 2868 02:21:59.600 --> 02:22:00.079 What is that? 2869 02:22:00.399 --> 02:22:00.559 Right? 2870 02:22:00.600 --> 02:22:00.799 Here. 2871 02:22:01.879 --> 02:22:03.440 I thought, that's trash, like the litter. 2872 02:22:04.280 --> 02:22:05.000 Is it supposed to be? 2873 02:22:05.200 --> 02:22:07.600 I don't know, I don't know what the hell that is. 2874 02:22:08.239 --> 02:22:09.360 Those are twin towers. 2875 02:22:09.799 --> 02:22:10.840 I eleven confirmed. 2876 02:22:11.479 --> 02:22:12.600 Well that was in twenty eighteen. 2877 02:22:12.799 --> 02:22:16.360 But those are snakes. 2878 02:22:16.360 --> 02:22:20.319 Those are snakes. Okay, yeah, the two cobra looking I thought, so. 2879 02:22:20.799 --> 02:22:23.399 Can you zoom in more, Jimmy, let me try look 2880 02:22:23.399 --> 02:22:24.559 it up. I'm gonna look up the picture. 2881 02:22:24.680 --> 02:22:26.719 Okay, good. Yeah, because I thought that they were like, 2882 02:22:26.840 --> 02:22:29.479 you know, the cobra type head. That is strange that 2883 02:22:29.520 --> 02:22:31.040 you would have snakes coming out. 2884 02:22:31.159 --> 02:22:36.120 There's somebody, Yeah, there's they're heels on, like somebody's feet 2885 02:22:36.159 --> 02:22:36.799 sticking out. 2886 02:22:37.399 --> 02:22:38.239 Oh is that what they are? 2887 02:22:38.479 --> 02:22:40.520 Yeah, which is even more I don't know, even more weird. 2888 02:22:40.639 --> 02:22:41.799 Oh oh yeah, yeah yeah. 2889 02:22:41.840 --> 02:22:43.879 It's a woman's heels sticking out of the water like 2890 02:22:43.879 --> 02:22:44.920 she's floating upside down. 2891 02:22:44.920 --> 02:22:45.440 Those are feet. 2892 02:22:45.639 --> 02:22:48.639 It's uncle's heels, yeah. 2893 02:22:48.120 --> 02:22:49.040 His uncle girlfriend. 2894 02:22:49.120 --> 02:22:53.399 Yeah. 2895 02:22:50.399 --> 02:22:50.559 Yea. 2896 02:22:54.079 --> 02:22:56.559 The most recent one, yes, sir, it was. 2897 02:22:56.879 --> 02:22:59.319 It was in France and they did the pale horse 2898 02:22:59.479 --> 02:23:02.120 acrossing the liver and all like that. 2899 02:23:02.200 --> 02:23:06.840 Yeah. Earlierly, which granted it's not like Macron was a 2900 02:23:06.840 --> 02:23:09.159 part of the Olympic committee that signed off on that, 2901 02:23:09.239 --> 02:23:11.399 but at the same time that did happen in Paris. 2902 02:23:11.399 --> 02:23:13.840 So like taking a third eye all the way open. 2903 02:23:13.959 --> 02:23:17.639 I mean, oh fuck, wait till we read this next one. Interestingly, 2904 02:23:17.799 --> 02:23:20.639 Macrone reported that he had a vision a few years 2905 02:23:20.920 --> 02:23:24.239 before becoming president in which he saw himself riding a 2906 02:23:24.280 --> 02:23:28.479 white horse and leading France to glory, fulfilling his destiny. 2907 02:23:29.760 --> 02:23:32.559 What well, I'm waiting for that day to happen, Macron, 2908 02:23:32.639 --> 02:23:34.920 because France is currently not doing so hot. 2909 02:23:35.200 --> 02:23:39.559 All right, Wow, this is a very true of him. 2910 02:23:39.959 --> 02:23:42.079 It's before the Olympics. 2911 02:23:41.600 --> 02:23:45.120 Right, dude, this is before COVID. 2912 02:23:45.399 --> 02:23:48.920 Yeah, I'm insane. I'm right about this. This is weird. 2913 02:23:49.600 --> 02:23:50.639 This is a lot of weirdness. 2914 02:23:50.840 --> 02:23:55.559 I'm not saying it's not bro Yeah, yeah, strange, strange. 2915 02:23:56.799 --> 02:23:59.799 The Antichrist will establish a one world religion, which is 2916 02:23:59.840 --> 02:24:02.879 like the Roman Catholic Church. It says, despite being born 2917 02:24:02.920 --> 02:24:05.760 to non religious parents, Macron chose to be baptized a 2918 02:24:05.840 --> 02:24:08.159 Catholic at the age of twelve. I'm gonna be honest 2919 02:24:08.200 --> 02:24:09.760 that there was going to be an Antichrist, it would 2920 02:24:09.760 --> 02:24:12.319 probably be from the Catholic Church. Don't throw shade that's 2921 02:24:12.360 --> 02:24:16.280 just my opinion, and received a Jesuit education, oh shit, 2922 02:24:16.799 --> 02:24:19.120 until his last year of high school. In June, he 2923 02:24:19.200 --> 02:24:21.799 visited the headquarters of the Roman Catholic Church, the Vatican, 2924 02:24:21.879 --> 02:24:26.920 where he had an unusually long meeting behind closed doors 2925 02:24:26.920 --> 02:24:31.319 with Pope Francis, discussing migration issues, conflict in the Middle East, 2926 02:24:31.399 --> 02:24:34.639 and the future unity of Europe. France has a strict 2927 02:24:34.639 --> 02:24:38.520 separation between church and state, as enshrined in law in 2928 02:24:38.600 --> 02:24:41.799 nineteen oh five. Nevertheless, Macrone caused an uproar in a 2929 02:24:41.879 --> 02:24:45.159 speech to Catholics this year when he expressed his desire 2930 02:24:45.280 --> 02:24:47.719 to repair the bond between church and state. 2931 02:24:49.559 --> 02:24:54.360 Interesting once again, I would I don't know what he's 2932 02:24:54.360 --> 02:24:58.120 waiting on then, because, okay, don't. 2933 02:24:58.239 --> 02:25:02.159 The Antichrist will seek to change and laws, says. Since 2934 02:25:02.200 --> 02:25:05.239 taking office, Macron has been reforming labor laws in France, 2935 02:25:05.239 --> 02:25:08.319 which has resulted in several violent protests. He aims to 2936 02:25:08.399 --> 02:25:10.520 modify Sunday work schedules as well. 2937 02:25:12.079 --> 02:25:16.040 Okay, violent protests because of him, fucking Okay. 2938 02:25:16.159 --> 02:25:19.479 The Antichrist will show no regard for any God except 2939 02:25:19.479 --> 02:25:23.399 for the God of fortresses, whom he will honor. Macrone, 2940 02:25:23.399 --> 02:25:26.879 who identifies as a secular lapsed Catholic does not acknowledge 2941 02:25:26.920 --> 02:25:30.479 any god. However, he has expressed his desire to govern 2942 02:25:30.520 --> 02:25:33.280 in a manner reminiscent of the Roman god Jupiter, and 2943 02:25:33.360 --> 02:25:39.000 has referred to his administration as Jupiterarian. Interestingly, the title 2944 02:25:39.120 --> 02:25:42.360 God of Fortresses belongs to none other than the Roman 2945 02:25:42.360 --> 02:25:46.360 god of Jupiter, whose Greek equivalent is Zeus. It is 2946 02:25:46.399 --> 02:25:55.479 worth noting that Antiochus any I guess Antiochus the fours Epiphans, 2947 02:25:55.559 --> 02:26:00.159 a foreshadow of the coming Antichrist, also portrayed himself as 2948 02:26:00.280 --> 02:26:04.760 Jupiter and even erected a statue of the god. Okay, 2949 02:26:05.120 --> 02:26:06.959 all right, I feel like it's starting to check out 2950 02:26:06.959 --> 02:26:11.920 a little bit, and we're just gonna read one more God, Damn, 2951 02:26:11.920 --> 02:26:14.040 there's a lot of them. Yeah, we're not gonna read 2952 02:26:14.079 --> 02:26:15.440 all these h But. 2953 02:26:15.399 --> 02:26:18.879 Then they were calling this guy out, good Lord. 2954 02:26:20.120 --> 02:26:21.760 Let's find a good one for the last one though, 2955 02:26:21.799 --> 02:26:24.920 because it's just like, Okay, he has great arrogance. Who doesn't. 2956 02:26:25.399 --> 02:26:27.639 The anti Christ will deceive the world through his charisma 2957 02:26:27.680 --> 02:26:30.959 and charm. The anti Christ will be ruthless towards others. 2958 02:26:31.000 --> 02:26:34.840 It'll be characterized by Satanic influence. Here we go. Oh, 2959 02:26:34.879 --> 02:26:39.040 the demonic symbolism surrounding Macron is concerning Macrone walked out 2960 02:26:39.079 --> 02:26:42.040 to the Ode of Joy instead of the French national 2961 02:26:42.079 --> 02:26:46.280 anthem during his presidential victory speech. This composition contains references 2962 02:26:46.319 --> 02:26:49.360 to pagan goddess worship in uniting all people through magic. 2963 02:26:49.639 --> 02:26:53.000 He celebrated his his win at the Louver Museum in 2964 02:26:53.000 --> 02:26:55.719 front of the glass pyramid with what appeared to be 2965 02:26:55.799 --> 02:26:59.520 illuminated eyes watching him or watching over him from the top, 2966 02:26:59.680 --> 02:27:02.840 a known symbol of the Illuminati. In his French office 2967 02:27:03.360 --> 02:27:06.719 or in his presidential office in Paris, there is a 2968 02:27:06.760 --> 02:27:09.959 painting hanging on the wall featuring a star symbol with 2969 02:27:09.680 --> 02:27:12.799 a man's face at the bottom. When the painting is 2970 02:27:12.799 --> 02:27:16.280 turned upside down, the symbol bears a striking resemblance to 2971 02:27:16.319 --> 02:27:19.440 the schedule of Baphomet, the official insignia of the Church 2972 02:27:19.479 --> 02:27:23.000 of Satan. Woo oh yeah, look there it. 2973 02:27:22.959 --> 02:27:25.760 Is, so I just looked at up. He was elected 2974 02:27:25.760 --> 02:27:29.440 in twenty seventeen. This article is written in twenty eighteen. 2975 02:27:30.159 --> 02:27:33.159 Now not trying to be that guy, because Macron could 2976 02:27:33.159 --> 02:27:36.719 be the Antichrist. I don't personally see it lining up 2977 02:27:36.760 --> 02:27:39.319 so cleanly, but like, okay, we could find a few 2978 02:27:39.399 --> 02:27:43.040 key details, But how many articles do we show as 2979 02:27:43.079 --> 02:27:45.360 soon as Obama got elected saying he was clearly the 2980 02:27:45.360 --> 02:27:50.680 Antichrist or George Bush right or or Trump, Like as 2981 02:27:50.719 --> 02:27:53.360 soon as a new person takes office right now, there's 2982 02:27:53.360 --> 02:27:55.159 people that are trying to draw the connection saying the 2983 02:27:55.200 --> 02:27:58.479 new pope is clearly the Antichrist. Pope Francis was clearly 2984 02:27:58.479 --> 02:28:01.719 the Antichrist, Benjamin and that Yahoo was clearly Antichrist. And 2985 02:28:01.760 --> 02:28:04.360 I'm not trying to detract I could be wrong. Macrome 2986 02:28:04.440 --> 02:28:07.920 might be the guy, like for sure. I just it 2987 02:28:07.959 --> 02:28:10.840 seems like every time a person takes a position of 2988 02:28:10.879 --> 02:28:13.479 power over a first world nation, there's people out there 2989 02:28:13.520 --> 02:28:16.200 immediately trying to say that this is the this is 2990 02:28:16.200 --> 02:28:18.040 the Antichrist. I just I don't know. 2991 02:28:18.200 --> 02:28:20.399 I mean, some of those might be a little bit 2992 02:28:20.399 --> 02:28:22.879 of a stretch, I'll admit, but there are other things 2993 02:28:22.879 --> 02:28:25.559 that we read in there that were like, that's kind 2994 02:28:25.559 --> 02:28:28.440 of fucking weird, right And and look, I'll be the 2995 02:28:28.440 --> 02:28:30.479 first one to say that I think that a lot 2996 02:28:30.639 --> 02:28:33.680 of the elites are probably using some kind of Satanic 2997 02:28:33.799 --> 02:28:36.639 or Illuminati symbolism because I think that it's all one 2998 02:28:36.680 --> 02:28:39.600 big party and weigh in invited, right, Like, these people 2999 02:28:39.639 --> 02:28:42.200 are all running together. That's why they all meet up 3000 02:28:42.200 --> 02:28:46.079 at the World Economic Forum. And where's the other one 3001 02:28:47.040 --> 02:28:49.959 in Switzerland? What's that one called again? 3002 02:28:50.360 --> 02:28:51.559 World Health Organization? 3003 02:28:51.879 --> 02:28:57.719 No? What was it called, Jamie shit? 3004 02:28:57.840 --> 02:29:01.360 World economic? World economic not economic form. 3005 02:29:01.479 --> 02:29:04.040 No, that's not the one I was thinking of, Davos. 3006 02:29:04.479 --> 02:29:06.479 Oh wait, that is that the word economic? No, that's 3007 02:29:06.520 --> 02:29:13.760 a different thing. Okay, tripping, I'm getting mixed up here. 3008 02:29:14.399 --> 02:29:18.159 But anyway, I don't know. I think it's kind of strange. 3009 02:29:18.440 --> 02:29:20.399 I think they're all kind of running together, especially whenever 3010 02:29:20.399 --> 02:29:23.000 you got Sad Guru going to World Economic Forum. It's like, okay, everything, 3011 02:29:23.040 --> 02:29:26.920 everybody's fucked. Then, Nicholas your thoughts. 3012 02:29:26.959 --> 02:29:30.719 Question, Jacob, I think you might be able to clarify 3013 02:29:30.799 --> 02:29:34.319 this for me. So the Antichrist is just a uh 3014 02:29:35.079 --> 02:29:42.360 a Christian belief, I guess right from what I understand, 3015 02:29:42.399 --> 02:29:47.959 It's not a like is not Islam or Judaism. Uh, 3016 02:29:48.319 --> 02:29:52.920 there's an argument to be made, I guess technically again 3017 02:29:53.000 --> 02:29:53.799 this is just. 3018 02:29:55.559 --> 02:29:57.079 Conjecture or just whatever. 3019 02:29:57.159 --> 02:29:59.680 But uh, in the on the Jewish side, not to 3020 02:29:59.719 --> 02:30:02.600 feel any anti Semitism or anything like that. 3021 02:30:02.120 --> 02:30:04.000 It's not the way I'm going at all. 3022 02:30:04.040 --> 02:30:08.719 But from the Christian perspective, the Jews technically are waiting 3023 02:30:08.760 --> 02:30:12.719 on their Messiah figure in the end times as well, 3024 02:30:12.760 --> 02:30:14.920 like they have a guy that they're waiting on who's 3025 02:30:15.120 --> 02:30:19.479 their Messiah, and so like it, technically, in the eyes 3026 02:30:19.559 --> 02:30:25.840 of Christians, that figure that they're waiting on their Messiah 3027 02:30:26.079 --> 02:30:31.239 would be what will roll with that person. Built in 3028 02:30:31.319 --> 02:30:33.840 the Christian viewpoint. 3029 02:30:34.799 --> 02:30:39.399 There's an argument to be made that whenever the Jewish 3030 02:30:39.479 --> 02:30:43.239 Messiah steps on the scene, that would potentially be the 3031 02:30:43.319 --> 02:30:46.879 anti christ reference in the Bible. I'm not saying that 3032 02:30:46.879 --> 02:30:49.959 that's a confirmed fact, but there's a lot of Christians 3033 02:30:50.000 --> 02:30:53.760 that believe that the Antichrist will be of Jewish descent, 3034 02:30:54.280 --> 02:30:57.680 specifically because he's going to walk into the Holy of 3035 02:30:57.719 --> 02:31:00.799 Holies within the rebuilt Temple, and you can only do 3036 02:31:00.879 --> 02:31:03.719 that if you're a high priest in Judaism, like not 3037 02:31:03.760 --> 02:31:06.000 just anybody's gonna be able to walk up into the temple, 3038 02:31:06.079 --> 02:31:08.639 even in the outer court on which is considered the 3039 02:31:08.680 --> 02:31:13.120 women's quarters, Like a person a gentile is not gonna 3040 02:31:13.120 --> 02:31:15.639 be able to walk in there, even for like you know, 3041 02:31:15.760 --> 02:31:18.600 academic research, like absolutely not. It's the same way that 3042 02:31:18.680 --> 02:31:20.639 like a non Mormon can't just walk up into the 3043 02:31:20.639 --> 02:31:24.520 Tabernacle like abseluctingly. Not So for somebody to be able 3044 02:31:24.520 --> 02:31:27.159 to walk into the Temple in that manner means that 3045 02:31:27.200 --> 02:31:30.280 they at least have to be Jewish. Now, I'm not 3046 02:31:30.319 --> 02:31:32.520 saying that that will be their Messiah figure, but I 3047 02:31:32.559 --> 02:31:35.079 do believe that a lot of Jews will believe that 3048 02:31:35.079 --> 02:31:37.520 the Antichrist might be their Messiah. 3049 02:31:38.120 --> 02:31:41.120 I just I just looked it up as so, all 3050 02:31:41.239 --> 02:31:44.920 three of the Abrahamic religions have some kind of Antichrist. 3051 02:31:45.719 --> 02:31:47.600 And I actually didn't know this. I kind of thought 3052 02:31:47.600 --> 02:31:50.040 it was only a Christian thing too, But yeah, Christianity 3053 02:31:50.040 --> 02:31:52.520 they have the what they call the Antichrist, but then 3054 02:31:52.559 --> 02:31:56.159 in Islam they have what is called al masi ad 3055 02:31:56.479 --> 02:32:00.840 da Jaal, which translates to the deceiving Messiah. And then 3056 02:32:01.159 --> 02:32:06.680 in Judaism you have Armorless, which is a later Rabbitic legend. 3057 02:32:07.360 --> 02:32:10.200 Armorless are sometimes associated with Gog and Magog. 3058 02:32:12.040 --> 02:32:15.760 Okay, which the wars of Gog and Magog are considered 3059 02:32:15.760 --> 02:32:17.360 to be signs of the end times. 3060 02:32:17.840 --> 02:32:19.799 So like that also kind of checks out as well. 3061 02:32:20.399 --> 02:32:26.079 I don't know much about the Islamic Antichrist figure. I'm 3062 02:32:26.079 --> 02:32:29.159 honestly never looked into it that deeply. And I know 3063 02:32:29.200 --> 02:32:32.159 I've gotten a lot of shade because that little clip 3064 02:32:32.159 --> 02:32:36.000 where I was talking about heresies within Islam. Look, the 3065 02:32:36.079 --> 02:32:39.520 Quran doesn't say anything about Jesus going from water from 3066 02:32:39.520 --> 02:32:42.559 Capernaum to Jerusalem. That was a complete example pulled out 3067 02:32:42.559 --> 02:32:45.239 of my ass. Okay, if I wanted to use a 3068 02:32:45.280 --> 02:32:47.520 heretical example, I could have said that they believe that 3069 02:32:47.559 --> 02:32:50.479 Jesus wasn't crucified, but that it was Judas that was 3070 02:32:50.520 --> 02:32:53.479 made to look like Jesus and that's who was actually crucified. 3071 02:32:54.159 --> 02:32:57.399 Like that, that's completely heretical and goes against even the 3072 02:32:57.520 --> 02:33:00.719 Jewish histories, even the Christian histories, the Roman history. 3073 02:33:00.840 --> 02:33:02.399 So it's it's that's my point. 3074 02:33:02.440 --> 02:33:07.559 They were taking gnostic and and heretical conversations and adding. 3075 02:33:07.280 --> 02:33:09.360 It to the book. By the way, for anybody out there, 3076 02:33:09.360 --> 02:33:10.319 that's a no. 3077 02:33:10.440 --> 02:33:13.639 I was gonna say to clarify on that the the 3078 02:33:13.639 --> 02:33:17.000 deceiving Messiah is not directly in the Qur'an. It's in 3079 02:33:17.040 --> 02:33:24.799 the hadith so Ah, which is basically would just like, oh, I. 3080 02:33:24.840 --> 02:33:28.920 Just found out apparently your boy Mohammed got railed through 3081 02:33:29.520 --> 02:33:34.399 by ten big black guys all night long, getting mounted 3082 02:33:34.399 --> 02:33:37.799 by them all in the Hadith And that's that's not 3083 02:33:37.920 --> 02:33:41.000 like he basically got a train ran on him. Where 3084 02:33:41.040 --> 02:33:43.879 did you one of his disciples watched it? Where's this? 3085 02:33:43.920 --> 02:33:45.200 Oh, it's in the hadith. 3086 02:33:47.680 --> 02:33:51.920 On it their their second coming of Jesus. Allegedly it 3087 02:33:52.079 --> 02:33:54.040 got raped by ten dudes. 3088 02:33:55.280 --> 02:33:57.319 Oh no, no, it wasn't rape. It was very consensual. 3089 02:33:58.159 --> 02:33:58.799 That's even worse. 3090 02:33:58.879 --> 02:34:01.840 It was a very willing thing. Yeah, and they don't 3091 02:34:01.920 --> 02:34:04.440 like it even though they're word for it. It's like 3092 02:34:04.799 --> 02:34:07.840 mounted and rode him all night. And it's like, where 3093 02:34:07.840 --> 02:34:10.000 does this say rode him all night? Well? The word 3094 02:34:10.079 --> 02:34:13.479 being used as mounted, the slang term for mounted is 3095 02:34:13.520 --> 02:34:15.760 about what it is in the English vernacular. Believe it 3096 02:34:15.799 --> 02:34:18.159 or not, there's other Islamic sources for the time period 3097 02:34:18.159 --> 02:34:21.319 to say such okay, ten And it doesn't necessarily mean 3098 02:34:21.319 --> 02:34:24.239 black is in Saharan or some Saharan African. These were 3099 02:34:24.239 --> 02:34:26.559 more like dudes from India from a certain section that 3100 02:34:26.639 --> 02:34:29.479 have dark skin. These same groups of dudes were known 3101 02:34:29.520 --> 02:34:32.399 to have very large fallacies and were known to never 3102 02:34:32.479 --> 02:34:33.479 go soft again. 3103 02:34:33.840 --> 02:34:34.600 Not my words. 3104 02:34:34.680 --> 02:34:39.159 Islamic sources confirm this, and he was mounted by ten 3105 02:34:39.239 --> 02:34:41.200 of them from the time the sun went down to 3106 02:34:41.239 --> 02:34:42.440 the time the sun went up. 3107 02:34:42.879 --> 02:34:45.360 Take that for what you mean, but that sounds to Jacob. 3108 02:34:45.079 --> 02:34:48.840 Like all night long. Okay. Then afterwards he walked back 3109 02:34:48.879 --> 02:34:50.879 up to his boy and he said, they wounded me 3110 02:34:51.000 --> 02:34:53.719 all night and then he had to walk funny and 3111 02:34:53.760 --> 02:34:56.440 he slept for like another day. So I mean, take 3112 02:34:56.479 --> 02:34:59.000 that for what you want, but it sounds like Muhammad 3113 02:34:59.079 --> 02:35:03.000 went to a gay orgy that he put together consensual, 3114 02:35:03.120 --> 02:35:05.040 but he was being wounded all night very. 3115 02:35:04.959 --> 02:35:08.360 Much, well wounded quote unquote. 3116 02:35:08.760 --> 02:35:10.840 I mean, when you get mounted by ten guys back 3117 02:35:10.879 --> 02:35:12.639 to back to back to back, I could assume that 3118 02:35:12.680 --> 02:35:13.200 you take. 3119 02:35:13.040 --> 02:35:15.920 A little bit of a you could consider that a wound. 3120 02:35:16.319 --> 02:35:18.440 What was that movie with Craig Robinson where his uh, 3121 02:35:18.559 --> 02:35:21.200 his rap name was a horse dick dot mpeg. You 3122 02:35:21.200 --> 02:35:26.719 remember that movie? No, yeah, Craig rock What what fucking 3123 02:35:26.799 --> 02:35:27.399 movie was that? 3124 02:35:27.799 --> 02:35:29.959 I know, Craig Robinson, but hold on, what the fuck 3125 02:35:29.959 --> 02:35:30.680 are you talking about? 3126 02:35:30.840 --> 02:35:31.040 Yeah? 3127 02:35:31.040 --> 02:35:33.399 Literally, he was a rapper and his nickname or his 3128 02:35:33.600 --> 02:35:35.760 rap name was Horsetck dot mpeg And then they ended 3129 02:35:35.840 --> 02:35:37.840 up finding out that he there at the end of 3130 02:35:37.840 --> 02:35:40.280 the movie. They're like, wait, Horsetick ain't got a dick, 3131 02:35:40.520 --> 02:35:42.840 or like he he like wasn't born with a dick. 3132 02:35:43.079 --> 02:35:45.040 So he made up like this myth about him having 3133 02:35:45.040 --> 02:35:47.520 like this ginormous dick, and that became. 3134 02:35:47.200 --> 02:35:47.879 His rap name. 3135 02:35:49.000 --> 02:35:51.360 Oh hilarious fucking movie though. 3136 02:35:51.479 --> 02:35:55.719 That's but let's see, Oh, this is called uh. 3137 02:35:55.760 --> 02:35:59.319 The hdith refers to the night of Mirage if his 3138 02:35:59.559 --> 02:36:01.719 signific get, an event in the life of the prophet Muhammad, 3139 02:36:01.719 --> 02:36:03.360 where he was taken on a journey to Meca from 3140 02:36:03.399 --> 02:36:06.120 Jerusalem and then to the heavens. His journey was not literal. 3141 02:36:06.280 --> 02:36:07.959 Wait a minute, Oh no, no, no, no, that's not 3142 02:36:07.959 --> 02:36:09.479 what it was. Hold on, It's called the night of 3143 02:36:09.520 --> 02:36:12.280 the Gin, the night of the Gin in the in 3144 02:36:12.360 --> 02:36:17.120 the hadith. Yeah, anybody wants to look that up. It's 3145 02:36:17.719 --> 02:36:19.879 it's a thing. It's one of the most things that 3146 02:36:19.920 --> 02:36:21.680 ever happened, if you will correct me if I'm wrong. 3147 02:36:21.719 --> 02:36:25.159 The Hidith is very similar to like the Kabbala as 3148 02:36:25.159 --> 02:36:27.280 far as esoteric and not literal, though, isn't it. 3149 02:36:29.639 --> 02:36:30.040 Uh? 3150 02:36:30.079 --> 02:36:31.840 You know what, I'm gonna search that up because I 3151 02:36:31.879 --> 02:36:33.760 know that there are certain Muslims that only take the 3152 02:36:33.799 --> 02:36:35.680 Koran to be truth in fact, and there are those 3153 02:36:35.719 --> 02:36:37.920 that get into the Hideth, and that's where we get 3154 02:36:37.959 --> 02:36:41.079 like Islamic extremism and shit like that. But let me 3155 02:36:41.120 --> 02:36:41.520 look it up. 3156 02:36:41.559 --> 02:36:43.959 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that that's that's what that is. 3157 02:36:44.079 --> 02:36:47.719 That it's more of the deeper like esoteric meaning of 3158 02:36:48.239 --> 02:36:49.200 Islam or whatever. 3159 02:36:50.799 --> 02:36:52.079 Oh, okay, okay, So here it is. 3160 02:36:52.079 --> 02:36:54.079 Here it is the Koran is the revealed word of 3161 02:36:54.120 --> 02:36:57.639 God directly communicated to the prophet Muhammad, while the Hadith 3162 02:36:57.719 --> 02:37:01.040 are collections of sayings and actions of the Prophet Muhammad 3163 02:37:01.239 --> 02:37:04.239 as well as his companions, compiled after his death. So 3164 02:37:04.280 --> 02:37:06.920 it's not esoteric. It's more like, well, I guess it 3165 02:37:06.959 --> 02:37:09.879 could be if if Mohammad said a thing and it 3166 02:37:09.920 --> 02:37:12.440 was meant to be esoteric and metaphorical, then that's in 3167 02:37:12.440 --> 02:37:13.040 the hidith. 3168 02:37:13.120 --> 02:37:17.799 Okay. So it's more comparable to the Nagamadi then, which 3169 02:37:17.840 --> 02:37:21.399 is esoteric at that point, because the Nagamadi allegedly you know, 3170 02:37:21.399 --> 02:37:23.559 I know, not a lot of people get down with it. 3171 02:37:23.639 --> 02:37:26.639 I do personally, But that was like all Jesus sayings. 3172 02:37:29.120 --> 02:37:31.200 So I mean, it was like one hundred and fourteen 3173 02:37:31.319 --> 02:37:32.600 Jesus sayings or a hundred. 3174 02:37:32.440 --> 02:37:35.079 Gospel Thomas, what was it? The gospel? 3175 02:37:35.159 --> 02:37:38.319 Thomas well yeah, well that's now the Gospel Thomas, isn't 3176 02:37:38.399 --> 02:37:40.520 the Sayings of Jesus. That's the like the lost Gospel 3177 02:37:40.559 --> 02:37:42.440 of q if you will, The Gospel Thomas, if I'm 3178 02:37:42.440 --> 02:37:45.200 not mistaken, talks about like the childhood of Jesus. Yes, 3179 02:37:45.559 --> 02:37:45.840 that's the. 3180 02:37:45.840 --> 02:37:48.280 Same Gospel Thomas as the one hundred and fourteen Sayings 3181 02:37:48.280 --> 02:37:48.760 of Jesus. 3182 02:37:48.879 --> 02:37:50.920 Yeah, yeah, which is the Nagamadi. 3183 02:37:51.520 --> 02:37:53.399 One of the books found in the Nagamani library. 3184 02:37:53.440 --> 02:37:56.120 Yet right, right, Nagamadi was a bunch of stuff too. 3185 02:37:56.280 --> 02:37:57.799 That was that was the books that where they found 3186 02:37:57.840 --> 02:37:58.559 the Dead Sea scrolls. 3187 02:37:58.600 --> 02:38:05.600 Correct, No, no, no, no, actually fun fact, Yeah, the Nagamati, 3188 02:38:05.680 --> 02:38:08.239 that's the it was found in Nagamati, Egypt, I think. 3189 02:38:09.000 --> 02:38:12.399 But that was that's where people you know, that's where 3190 02:38:12.440 --> 02:38:14.799 Book of Thomas and Book of Mary Magdalene and and 3191 02:38:14.840 --> 02:38:19.280 ship like that gets into apocryphal kind of ship I think. 3192 02:38:20.639 --> 02:38:23.200 And so yeah, it's actually a really fascinating ring. But 3193 02:38:23.280 --> 02:38:28.680 it's literally just like just Jesus sayings allegedly actually. 3194 02:38:28.360 --> 02:38:32.840 The Nagamati Yeah, okay, it includes the Gnostic Gospels. I mean, 3195 02:38:32.879 --> 02:38:35.760 it's not just Jesus' texts at all. It's it's the 3196 02:38:35.760 --> 02:38:36.879 Gnostic texts. 3197 02:38:37.920 --> 02:38:41.200 I think that I think the Gospel of Thomas gets 3198 02:38:41.239 --> 02:38:44.920 lumped in with the word gnostic. I think I think 3199 02:38:44.920 --> 02:38:48.600 a lot of some of those other texts get blanketed 3200 02:38:48.760 --> 02:38:53.600 with gnostic because they're not I don't think it's fair 3201 02:38:53.639 --> 02:38:59.280 to call everything that's not canonized gnostic. And I think that's. 3202 02:38:58.879 --> 02:39:01.120 Literally what it means by phinition, doctor No. 3203 02:39:01.319 --> 02:39:03.479 I think the Gnostic stuff is the ones that are 3204 02:39:03.520 --> 02:39:09.000 all like talking about how there's a like we're trapped 3205 02:39:09.040 --> 02:39:12.079 and we got to get out of the like there's 3206 02:39:12.120 --> 02:39:14.479 the uh, what's the demi urge and all that stuff, 3207 02:39:14.799 --> 02:39:19.479 and then uh, like, okay, is the Book of Being 3208 02:39:19.559 --> 02:39:20.639 ag gnostic texts. 3209 02:39:22.239 --> 02:39:23.760 It's apocryphal, not gnostic. 3210 02:39:24.360 --> 02:39:26.920 Yeah, So I would I would argue differ there. I 3211 02:39:26.920 --> 02:39:30.799 would argue that the Gospel of Thomas shouldn't be at 3212 02:39:30.840 --> 02:39:35.879 the very least shouldn't be included in gnosticism because it 3213 02:39:36.559 --> 02:39:37.959 just gets kind of lumped in with some of the 3214 02:39:38.000 --> 02:39:40.840 other stuff. Because the Gospel of Thomas shares so much 3215 02:39:40.879 --> 02:39:44.200 similarity with all of the other books and the Q stuff, 3216 02:39:44.680 --> 02:39:48.360 which is different than the people who believe in like 3217 02:39:48.479 --> 02:39:49.559 the demi Urge. 3218 02:39:50.799 --> 02:39:53.680 So the Lost Gospel of Thomas is grounded in narcissism 3219 02:39:53.760 --> 02:39:57.000 of philosophical and religious movement that emphasize secret knowledge as 3220 02:39:57.040 --> 02:39:58.120 a path to salvation. 3221 02:39:58.600 --> 02:40:01.159 This contract to orthodox Christianity view. 3222 02:40:00.959 --> 02:40:03.879 That salvation comes to faith in Jesus and his sacrifice. 3223 02:40:04.360 --> 02:40:07.440 So that's why I was seen as apocryph or heretical 3224 02:40:07.520 --> 02:40:09.760 and wasn't added to the books. It's not like that's 3225 02:40:09.879 --> 02:40:12.559 a book based in truth that was written about if 3226 02:40:12.600 --> 02:40:14.799 I'm not mistaken in the three hundreds BC, if not 3227 02:40:14.840 --> 02:40:15.319 even later. 3228 02:40:15.920 --> 02:40:17.159 So there, I mean, that's the thing. 3229 02:40:17.200 --> 02:40:21.000 That's why Gnostic conversations and why certain books weren't added 3230 02:40:21.040 --> 02:40:23.520 to the final adaptation. And then there's the apocryphal, which 3231 02:40:23.520 --> 02:40:25.479 is why like the Book of Jubilee, the Book of Asher, 3232 02:40:25.600 --> 02:40:28.520 the Book of Enoch, and you know, those go more 3233 02:40:28.520 --> 02:40:30.760 Old Testament conversation than you have the ones for New 3234 02:40:30.799 --> 02:40:35.120 Testament conversation. But anything where it talks about secret forbidden 3235 02:40:35.200 --> 02:40:38.520 knowledge is clearly not meant to be in the Bible 3236 02:40:38.559 --> 02:40:41.239 because that's supposed to be free knowledge for all humanity. 3237 02:40:42.360 --> 02:40:47.079 Well, what about the idea that Jesus UH taught different 3238 02:40:47.120 --> 02:40:50.840 things to his disciples on the side in the canonized 3239 02:40:50.879 --> 02:40:55.879 books like of the regular Bible and then different things 3240 02:40:55.879 --> 02:40:59.479 to other people out in the uh like whenever he 3241 02:40:59.559 --> 02:41:02.520 was out in public. So he had two different ways 3242 02:41:02.639 --> 02:41:04.920 of talking to people. So he had one way that 3243 02:41:04.959 --> 02:41:09.040 he would say which could be argued as secret teachings 3244 02:41:09.040 --> 02:41:11.399 to his disciples and people that were close to him 3245 02:41:11.440 --> 02:41:13.760 on the side, and then the parables and stuff out 3246 02:41:13.799 --> 02:41:16.760 to the other people. So the idea that there was 3247 02:41:16.840 --> 02:41:20.600 never any secret teachings or secret or teachings like that 3248 02:41:20.600 --> 02:41:24.799 that shouldn't be included, I think just my opinion, because 3249 02:41:24.840 --> 02:41:29.239 there are some secret teachings quote unquote alluded to in 3250 02:41:29.280 --> 02:41:32.440 the Bible, I think that all of them necessarily shouldn't 3251 02:41:32.440 --> 02:41:33.120 be thrown out. 3252 02:41:34.639 --> 02:41:37.799 I don't think that's necessarily secret teachings like what you're thinking. 3253 02:41:38.040 --> 02:41:40.760 I think that in public Jesus had to teach in 3254 02:41:40.879 --> 02:41:43.639 parables because the Romans were after him, the Jews were 3255 02:41:43.680 --> 02:41:46.520 after him, the Gentiles were after him, and he had 3256 02:41:46.559 --> 02:41:48.719 to preach in a way to where he wasn't going 3257 02:41:48.760 --> 02:41:51.120 to be arrested. The same thing whenever they asked him like, oh, 3258 02:41:51.120 --> 02:41:53.680 so you're saying we shouldn't pay taxes, and it was 3259 02:41:53.719 --> 02:41:55.520 like so if he would have said, yes, don't pay 3260 02:41:55.520 --> 02:41:58.079 your taxes. That's not God's law. He would have been 3261 02:41:58.120 --> 02:42:02.239 arrested for trying to incite revolt against Rome or trying 3262 02:42:02.239 --> 02:42:04.440 to teach to go against the laws of Rome. So 3263 02:42:04.520 --> 02:42:06.840 what was his answer to this, Give to Caesars with 3264 02:42:06.959 --> 02:42:09.399 Caesar's and give to God's with his gods. That was 3265 02:42:09.440 --> 02:42:13.040 a parabolic if you will answer, But it wasn't like 3266 02:42:13.559 --> 02:42:15.559 that was like a secret meaning behind it. He was 3267 02:42:15.600 --> 02:42:18.159 telling you, Caesar's face is on this coin, that's Caesar's. 3268 02:42:18.280 --> 02:42:20.360 God didn't ask for your money. There's a reason behind 3269 02:42:20.399 --> 02:42:20.639 all this. 3270 02:42:20.760 --> 02:42:23.079 Now, in private, when he wasn't speaking to the masses, 3271 02:42:23.360 --> 02:42:25.120 I'm sure he was trying to give his disciples the 3272 02:42:25.120 --> 02:42:27.959 true intent. But that wasn't meant to be a secret teaching, 3273 02:42:28.000 --> 02:42:30.440 because his disciples went out and taught in the ways 3274 02:42:30.440 --> 02:42:32.639 that Jesus taught them to teach, and that's what spread 3275 02:42:32.639 --> 02:42:36.360 the church. So I don't believe it's like secret in 3276 02:42:36.479 --> 02:42:38.479 the same conversation that we're talking. 3277 02:42:38.319 --> 02:42:40.520 About, is like forbidden knowledge or something like that, like 3278 02:42:40.920 --> 02:42:41.479 nothing near. 3279 02:42:41.680 --> 02:42:46.280 Then explain how a lot of his disciples decided to 3280 02:42:46.840 --> 02:42:50.559 basically fall away and stop following him whenever he told 3281 02:42:50.600 --> 02:42:53.200 them to eat of his flesh and drink of his 3282 02:42:53.280 --> 02:42:56.440 blood because they were taking it literal. So there wasn't 3283 02:42:56.520 --> 02:42:59.760 just because that he was worried about like he wasn't 3284 02:42:59.760 --> 02:43:04.000 worry wried about the masks fell away like a majority 3285 02:43:04.040 --> 02:43:05.399 of them. 3286 02:43:05.719 --> 02:43:07.959 There was only twelve people at the last supper, which 3287 02:43:07.959 --> 02:43:08.760 one of them fell away. 3288 02:43:09.479 --> 02:43:11.639 I'm not saying this is before the last supper. 3289 02:43:12.799 --> 02:43:15.040 The eating of the bread, blood, the drinking of the blood, 3290 02:43:15.040 --> 02:43:16.920 and eating of the flesh. That was the last supper. 3291 02:43:17.040 --> 02:43:20.639 So none fell away because most of his disciples are martyred. No, no, no, no, 3292 02:43:21.000 --> 02:43:23.600 So whenever and correct me if I'm wrong. I only 3293 02:43:23.639 --> 02:43:25.920 just recently sumbled across this information. I didn't I wasn't 3294 02:43:25.959 --> 02:43:28.120 raised this way, so I could have things out of order. 3295 02:43:28.559 --> 02:43:32.719 But how the story goes is that Jesus was he 3296 02:43:33.000 --> 02:43:36.040 He fed the masses with the bread, right, and then 3297 02:43:36.360 --> 02:43:39.120 he went fish and the fish right, and then he 3298 02:43:39.159 --> 02:43:42.200 appeared somewhere else, like a long distance away, like across 3299 02:43:42.200 --> 02:43:46.680 a lake or some shit, right. And that's whenever he 3300 02:43:46.760 --> 02:43:48.639 was talking, And that's whenever he was talking to his 3301 02:43:48.680 --> 02:43:50.920 disciples saying that you should eat of my eat of 3302 02:43:50.959 --> 02:43:53.399 my flesh, and drink of my blood, and a lot 3303 02:43:53.479 --> 02:43:55.600 of people, a lot of them decided to fall away 3304 02:43:55.639 --> 02:43:56.719 from the story that I heard. 3305 02:43:56.840 --> 02:43:58.840 They decided to fall away because they were taking him little. 3306 02:43:59.079 --> 02:44:01.200 They were like, what the fuck is he's saying? And 3307 02:44:01.399 --> 02:44:05.680 I guess only the initiated supposedly were able to get behind. 3308 02:44:05.879 --> 02:44:07.680 You know that whole conversation. 3309 02:44:08.760 --> 02:44:11.719 You are you are jumping all over the timeline on this. 3310 02:44:11.879 --> 02:44:14.360 So when he gave his sermon where he fed the 3311 02:44:14.399 --> 02:44:16.600 masks with the bread and the fish. Right after that 3312 02:44:17.239 --> 02:44:19.360 he was going off to do some praying. His boys 3313 02:44:19.360 --> 02:44:21.719 took a boat to try to get to the destination quicker. 3314 02:44:21.760 --> 02:44:22.520 There was a storm. 3315 02:44:22.559 --> 02:44:24.959 He walked on water to get to their boat. He 3316 02:44:25.040 --> 02:44:27.639 calmed the storm, he got them to shore. This all happened. 3317 02:44:27.639 --> 02:44:30.040 Now there is a large gap of time. He didn't 3318 02:44:30.040 --> 02:44:32.719 like appear way away, Like he walked out to them 3319 02:44:32.799 --> 02:44:35.760 as they were leaving the same spot. They diverged paths. 3320 02:44:35.760 --> 02:44:38.879 But it's not like he like teleported to a new spot. 3321 02:44:39.000 --> 02:44:40.079 Okay, for first. 3322 02:44:39.799 --> 02:44:43.239 Off, whenever they say that they were shocked that he 3323 02:44:43.319 --> 02:44:49.280 got that far in that in that amount of time. Yeah, 3324 02:44:49.840 --> 02:44:51.799 I mean walking on water is something that would shock 3325 02:44:51.840 --> 02:44:53.000 the fuck out of most people. 3326 02:44:53.079 --> 02:44:54.959 I would agree with you for sure. 3327 02:44:55.000 --> 02:44:57.319 I feel like you just agreed and disagreed with yourself. 3328 02:44:59.600 --> 02:45:02.760 He didn't teleport, He walked out to them, but I 3329 02:45:02.760 --> 02:45:03.760 guess you could say. 3330 02:45:03.559 --> 02:45:05.120 Transported, not teleported. 3331 02:45:05.399 --> 02:45:08.319 No, I'm not even feel lost about that. 3332 02:45:08.440 --> 02:45:11.840 But then you're eating of the flesh and drinking of 3333 02:45:11.879 --> 02:45:14.760 the blood that was specifically at the last Supper, and 3334 02:45:14.799 --> 02:45:17.959 that was before he was taken by the guards to 3335 02:45:18.040 --> 02:45:22.360 be crucified, So that only happened with his closest what 3336 02:45:22.399 --> 02:45:26.639 would be his apostles, and none of them fell away 3337 02:45:26.760 --> 02:45:28.680 because of that. Now, some of them kind of fell 3338 02:45:28.719 --> 02:45:32.319 away quote unquote temporarily until he resurrected three days later 3339 02:45:32.360 --> 02:45:34.440 and found them in the upper room. And then they 3340 02:45:34.479 --> 02:45:36.959 went on to preach the gospel so heavily that most 3341 02:45:37.000 --> 02:45:39.000 of them were tortured to death for their beliefs. 3342 02:45:40.440 --> 02:45:44.719 Um Yes, many of Jesus's followers did abandon him after 3343 02:45:44.799 --> 02:45:47.079 he said that they must eat his flesh and drink 3344 02:45:47.120 --> 02:45:49.520 his blood. This happens in John six, and it's one 3345 02:45:49.520 --> 02:45:51.799 of the most pivotal and misunderstood moments in the entire 3346 02:45:51.840 --> 02:45:55.879 New Testament. So the literal account from John chapter six, 3347 02:45:55.959 --> 02:45:59.319 verses fifty three through sixty six says Unless you eat 3348 02:45:59.319 --> 02:46:01.159 the flesh of the Sun of Man and drink his blood, 3349 02:46:01.200 --> 02:46:03.360 you have no life in you. Whoever feeds on my 3350 02:46:03.399 --> 02:46:05.920 flesh and drinks of my blood has eternal life. Many 3351 02:46:05.920 --> 02:46:08.760 A says, many of his disciples said, this is a 3352 02:46:08.799 --> 02:46:11.920 hard saying. Who can accept it? After this, many of 3353 02:46:11.959 --> 02:46:15.799 his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him. 3354 02:46:16.479 --> 02:46:20.719 That's why I just said, okay, John six, you said, 3355 02:46:21.639 --> 02:46:29.600 John literally John sixty six to six, Oh wow, kind 3356 02:46:29.600 --> 02:46:33.280 of crazy six sixty six yep. John Chapter six. 3357 02:46:33.399 --> 02:46:35.000 From that time is that was turned back in a 3358 02:46:35.000 --> 02:46:36.879 long walk with And this marks a significant point in 3359 02:46:36.959 --> 02:46:39.520 jesus ministry where many of his followers were challenged by 3360 02:46:39.520 --> 02:46:42.200 his teaching on the need to eat his flesh and 3361 02:46:42.280 --> 02:46:44.920 drink his blood to have eternal life. The challenge led 3362 02:46:44.959 --> 02:46:47.479 to some of them deserting him and no longer following him. 3363 02:46:47.520 --> 02:46:50.559 The context of this, the preceding verses John six point 3364 02:46:50.559 --> 02:46:53.399 fifty one through fifty eight, Jesus had made a controversial 3365 02:46:53.399 --> 02:46:55.440 statement about the importance of eating his flesh and drinking 3366 02:46:55.479 --> 02:46:58.799 his blood to have eternal life. Okay, the desertion Versus 3367 02:46:58.879 --> 02:47:02.600 sixty six describes them and all this Jesus question. Following this, 3368 02:47:02.719 --> 02:47:05.959 Jesus turns to his remaining disciples, the twelve his apostles, 3369 02:47:06.120 --> 02:47:07.639 and ask them, do you want to leave two? 3370 02:47:09.840 --> 02:47:12.079 What was your original question, sir, oh. 3371 02:47:12.000 --> 02:47:13.879 I just I just said that a lot of them 3372 02:47:13.879 --> 02:47:17.159 fell off after they were taking him literal and they 3373 02:47:17.159 --> 02:47:19.280 couldn't understand what he was trying to say that. My 3374 02:47:19.399 --> 02:47:22.319 point was is that that wasn't something that he was 3375 02:47:22.360 --> 02:47:25.559 saying because he was worried that the powers that be 3376 02:47:25.719 --> 02:47:28.040 were going to flay him alive if he was to 3377 02:47:28.079 --> 02:47:30.319 say it literally, and that's why he spoke in parables. 3378 02:47:30.600 --> 02:47:34.040 He was saying that in a sense. One, yeah, in 3379 02:47:34.520 --> 02:47:37.680 a sense it was almost like more meaningful, maybe you 3380 02:47:37.760 --> 02:47:40.920 might say esoteric, maybe maybe a deeper meaning behind what 3381 02:47:41.000 --> 02:47:43.520 he's really trying to say. He wasn't literally saying, come 3382 02:47:43.559 --> 02:47:46.719 take a fucking bite out of my nipple. He was saying, like, 3383 02:47:46.719 --> 02:47:50.719 like literally, fully immerse yourself in what I'm trying to 3384 02:47:50.840 --> 02:47:53.680 tell you, right right. 3385 02:47:54.040 --> 02:47:56.719 Right, Okay, I can see what you're going with this. Okay, 3386 02:47:56.760 --> 02:47:59.760 So I think I misunderstood you. Whenever you said disciples, 3387 02:47:59.840 --> 02:48:02.600 I thought you meant apostles, because he had more than 3388 02:48:02.639 --> 02:48:04.879 just twelve disciples. He had twelve that were like his 3389 02:48:05.040 --> 02:48:07.079 inner core, but he had like tons of disciples. Mary 3390 02:48:07.079 --> 02:48:09.840 Magdalen was a disciple, but she wasn't an apostle kind 3391 02:48:09.840 --> 02:48:12.360 of thing. So you know, my bad, I think I 3392 02:48:12.440 --> 02:48:15.079 misheard you when you first said it. I'd be knowing shit, 3393 02:48:15.479 --> 02:48:17.399 I'd be learning shit. I told you I was diving 3394 02:48:17.399 --> 02:48:20.479 into this, no doubt, no doubt. 3395 02:48:20.600 --> 02:48:22.959 Go ahead, Nicholas, No, I have been too while. 3396 02:48:23.000 --> 02:48:25.040 I've got Jacob on this topic, always like picking his 3397 02:48:25.079 --> 02:48:29.799 brain on this stuff. So whenever you're defining secret teachings, 3398 02:48:30.079 --> 02:48:33.360 you were saying that it would be like something that 3399 02:48:33.879 --> 02:48:37.079 somebody else was told that they had to have this 3400 02:48:37.159 --> 02:48:41.479 secret knowledge in order to have something happen in. 3401 02:48:41.440 --> 02:48:43.200 The scripture so attain salvation. 3402 02:48:43.600 --> 02:48:48.760 Yeah, So there is an argument to be had that 3403 02:48:50.399 --> 02:48:54.239 actually the author of the majority of the New Testament 3404 02:48:54.719 --> 02:49:00.639 could be considered one of the first Gnostic writers in general, 3405 02:49:00.760 --> 02:49:08.639 because the apostle Paul encounters Jesus on his own and 3406 02:49:08.799 --> 02:49:13.559 is given this secret revelation that only he knows, and 3407 02:49:14.239 --> 02:49:18.239 he gets all this message. Like that's different than essentially 3408 02:49:19.079 --> 02:49:23.120 the apostle Paul comes in and is kind of preaching 3409 02:49:23.200 --> 02:49:27.799 a different gospel than all of the disciples, and it 3410 02:49:27.799 --> 02:49:30.760 doesn't really necessarily line up. And he's preaching, you know, 3411 02:49:31.440 --> 02:49:37.440 salvation by faith alone, and you know, confessing Jesus and 3412 02:49:37.479 --> 02:49:40.040 believing that Heroshenma dead, and you know, all this kind 3413 02:49:40.079 --> 02:49:42.840 of stuff, and that all of this was told to 3414 02:49:42.879 --> 02:49:47.159 him and him alone, and and he has I believe 3415 02:49:47.200 --> 02:49:49.920 it even says that it was like secret knowledge given 3416 02:49:49.959 --> 02:49:53.280 to him by Jesus and that now everyone has to 3417 02:49:53.319 --> 02:49:55.920 listen to him. And this is the way it is 3418 02:49:55.959 --> 02:50:00.120 moving forward, and none of the other stuff. Essentially, Matt 3419 02:50:00.760 --> 02:50:03.440 because he has the new new. 3420 02:50:03.440 --> 02:50:05.719 I actually have the quote here. This is in First 3421 02:50:05.719 --> 02:50:10.559 Corinthians two. Well, First Corinthians, chapter two, verses six or seven. 3422 02:50:11.000 --> 02:50:13.920 This is Paul's quote. We speak a message of wisdom 3423 02:50:14.000 --> 02:50:17.120 among the mature, a secret wisdom that has been hidden 3424 02:50:17.200 --> 02:50:20.399 in that God destined for our glory before time began. 3425 02:50:21.600 --> 02:50:24.280 And then also said the mystery h This is in 3426 02:50:24.920 --> 02:50:27.040 Colossians Colossians. How do you say that word? 3427 02:50:27.159 --> 02:50:28.639 Colossians Colossians. 3428 02:50:28.799 --> 02:50:32.079 The mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, 3429 02:50:32.079 --> 02:50:34.440 but is now disclosed to the Lord's people, which is 3430 02:50:34.559 --> 02:50:38.280 Christ in you, the hope of glory. So that's kind 3431 02:50:38.319 --> 02:50:41.520 of like, you know, some mysteries. It's like hidden mystery 3432 02:50:41.559 --> 02:50:44.000 school or secret knowledge things. Though he's saying, like the 3433 02:50:44.040 --> 02:50:46.239 secret that has been kept hidden until this time. 3434 02:50:46.520 --> 02:50:48.680 And it's not that he was going necessarily. 3435 02:50:48.200 --> 02:50:51.399 Against with the Apostles we're teaching, although he and Peter 3436 02:50:51.559 --> 02:50:52.319 got into it. 3437 02:50:52.399 --> 02:50:53.879 I should mention that, like, and. 3438 02:50:54.280 --> 02:50:57.440 There's a wickedness. 3439 02:50:58.319 --> 02:51:00.719 Because at a certain point, and he also gotta look 3440 02:51:00.719 --> 02:51:03.559 at where he was writing too, right, Paul was out 3441 02:51:03.639 --> 02:51:06.879 for the same goal, but on a different mission, if 3442 02:51:06.920 --> 02:51:10.520 you will. The Apostles were told to start churches. I 3443 02:51:10.559 --> 02:51:13.559 mean Paul was told to spread the word. Yes, he 3444 02:51:13.559 --> 02:51:17.440 founded some churches along the way, but he wasn't overtly 3445 02:51:17.479 --> 02:51:22.399 going against the teachings of the of the Apostles. He was. 3446 02:51:23.920 --> 02:51:26.200 He wasn't trusted in the beginning, that's for damn sure. 3447 02:51:26.360 --> 02:51:27.799 I mean he was killing a lot of them in 3448 02:51:27.840 --> 02:51:31.000 the beginning of his life. But yeah, he was a 3449 02:51:31.000 --> 02:51:34.479 bit of a rebel character as far as that's concerned. 3450 02:51:34.639 --> 02:51:36.479 I just have a I just have a little contention 3451 02:51:36.639 --> 02:51:40.840 with Paul personally, being that he is, you know, somebody 3452 02:51:40.879 --> 02:51:41.799 who never met. 3453 02:51:41.719 --> 02:51:43.120 Jesus in the flesh. 3454 02:51:43.319 --> 02:51:46.040 I guess we'll say, if we if we believe the 3455 02:51:46.079 --> 02:51:50.399 story of the the Road and whatnot. Never met Jesus was, 3456 02:51:51.000 --> 02:51:56.680 you know, the the greatest perpetrator of you know, of 3457 02:51:56.760 --> 02:52:02.159 Christians and whatnot, and uh and basically kind of overwrites 3458 02:52:02.319 --> 02:52:06.159 all of the people who had firsthand knowledge of you know, 3459 02:52:07.920 --> 02:52:11.079 the of Jesus and the specific things that he taught 3460 02:52:11.120 --> 02:52:15.760 which were in alignment with I would say, the read letters. 3461 02:52:16.479 --> 02:52:18.479 You know, I feel like the most the most people 3462 02:52:18.559 --> 02:52:21.760 whenever they have their contentions with with some of the 3463 02:52:21.799 --> 02:52:25.799 teachings in Christianity, it's not it's never really anything. 3464 02:52:25.479 --> 02:52:27.600 That Jesus ever said or Jesus ever taught. 3465 02:52:27.840 --> 02:52:34.680 It's usually something that Paul says about you or or 3466 02:52:34.840 --> 02:52:38.719 and puts on to Christians. And you'll they'll even rebuke 3467 02:52:38.959 --> 02:52:42.120 things that Christian that Jesus said with something that Paul says, 3468 02:52:42.479 --> 02:52:44.559 which is like kind of you're never supposed to go 3469 02:52:44.639 --> 02:52:48.360 against the grain with like the prophet before you. 3470 02:52:48.399 --> 02:52:49.920 No, I agree with this onn percent. 3471 02:52:50.000 --> 02:52:52.879 And it's when you look at Paul's words and his letters, 3472 02:52:53.360 --> 02:52:56.760 it is very easy to cherry pick something. And so 3473 02:52:56.760 --> 02:52:59.360 so many pastors that I have personally heard speak, as 3474 02:52:59.399 --> 02:53:01.799 a matter of fact, will cherry pick a word from 3475 02:53:01.840 --> 02:53:04.319 Paul and act as if that was a message to 3476 02:53:04.440 --> 02:53:07.120 all of Christendom, never mind the fact that it was 3477 02:53:07.159 --> 02:53:10.360 a letter written to this church at this location to 3478 02:53:10.399 --> 02:53:15.200 address issues at that church at that location. Right, there's 3479 02:53:15.239 --> 02:53:17.600 a I'm not saying like an esoteric meaning behind it. 3480 02:53:17.639 --> 02:53:19.799 But you always got to look at the time, the place, 3481 02:53:19.799 --> 02:53:22.040 in the audience when you're looking at the letters from Paul. 3482 02:53:22.440 --> 02:53:24.520 But what I will say is this, as far as 3483 02:53:24.600 --> 02:53:27.200 in the defense of him, and I understand the contention, 3484 02:53:27.360 --> 02:53:31.719 I really really do. In mad respect, he never actually 3485 02:53:31.760 --> 02:53:35.040 met Jesus face to face while Jesus was alive and 3486 02:53:35.120 --> 02:53:37.600 was conducting his ministry, right, he met him on the 3487 02:53:37.639 --> 02:53:40.159 road Damascus, and his glory wasn't in the flesh. I'm 3488 02:53:40.159 --> 02:53:43.479 with you, howmuch you But Peter did and John the 3489 02:53:43.559 --> 02:53:47.159 Beloved did, and they knew Paul after the fact when 3490 02:53:47.200 --> 02:53:49.879 he was Saul of Tarsus and then became Paul, and 3491 02:53:49.920 --> 02:53:52.879 they acknowledged that the experience he had, and they. 3492 02:53:52.719 --> 02:53:54.479 Could say, oh, no, you met Jesus. 3493 02:53:54.760 --> 02:53:57.440 From what you're telling me, I can confirm because I 3494 02:53:57.600 --> 02:53:59.360 walked with him, I knew him. 3495 02:53:59.399 --> 02:54:01.280 We can't together, we live together. 3496 02:54:01.840 --> 02:54:04.719 This dude who was killing us all has absolutely seen 3497 02:54:04.879 --> 02:54:08.280 Jesus for himself and they acknowledged him to be an 3498 02:54:08.319 --> 02:54:11.360 apostle alongside them. Well, and to take that with what 3499 02:54:11.440 --> 02:54:13.719 you want. But but this tells me that at least 3500 02:54:13.760 --> 02:54:15.440 the guys what. 3501 02:54:15.520 --> 02:54:18.239 This is like the correlation though, what he, what he 3502 02:54:18.440 --> 02:54:21.120 and many others are trying to say, is that Paul 3503 02:54:21.319 --> 02:54:25.559 has the way he's able to uh, you know, communicate 3504 02:54:25.799 --> 02:54:29.520 or receive some kind of divine download from Jesus. It 3505 02:54:30.000 --> 02:54:33.079 is very esoteric in that way, like and I mean 3506 02:54:33.280 --> 02:54:38.520 esoteric in the sense of like think about the Nagamadi, 3507 02:54:38.719 --> 02:54:41.239 right like if you if you've never read the Nagamati, 3508 02:54:41.280 --> 02:54:42.920 you're not going to understand what we're trying to say. 3509 02:54:43.079 --> 02:54:46.040 The Nagamadi in the way that Jesus speaks in the 3510 02:54:46.079 --> 02:54:50.280 Nagamati is very different compared to the ones in the Bible, 3511 02:54:50.680 --> 02:54:52.479 which which is why a lot of people. 3512 02:54:52.239 --> 02:54:54.319 That's why they're gnostic, which is why they weren't added 3513 02:54:54.360 --> 02:54:55.399 to the Bible correct. 3514 02:54:55.159 --> 02:54:58.040 Which is why a lot of people don't deem them canonical. 3515 02:54:58.280 --> 02:55:02.440 For that reason. However, there is a weird correlation in 3516 02:55:02.520 --> 02:55:05.959 the books of John and in what Paul has to 3517 02:55:06.000 --> 02:55:10.040 say that is very strikingly similar to a lot of 3518 02:55:10.079 --> 02:55:12.079 the verbiage and a lot of the things that were 3519 02:55:12.120 --> 02:55:16.879 said within the Nagamadi. And so whenever you see Paul, like, 3520 02:55:16.959 --> 02:55:19.440 for example, there's a couple of quotes that I got 3521 02:55:19.440 --> 02:55:23.440 from Paul that are very Nagamadi centric. Okay, I no 3522 02:55:23.479 --> 02:55:26.120 longer live, but Christ lives in me. Never met him. 3523 02:55:26.200 --> 02:55:29.959 Somehow he has that in him. Okay. Another one. I 3524 02:55:30.040 --> 02:55:32.159 did not receive it from any man, nor was I 3525 02:55:32.200 --> 02:55:35.520 taught it. Rather I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ. 3526 02:55:35.719 --> 02:55:39.440 This is gnostic, which gnosis means to know this is. 3527 02:55:39.639 --> 02:55:41.680 This is not a belief, it's not a faith, It 3528 02:55:41.760 --> 02:55:44.239 is a knowing. This is what the Gnostics have studied 3529 02:55:44.319 --> 02:55:46.600 the longest time. This is what they're known for. It's 3530 02:55:46.639 --> 02:55:49.959 that you don't take anybody else's word. You somehow are 3531 02:55:50.040 --> 02:55:53.760 realized within it yourself. That is, go within, not without. 3532 02:55:54.120 --> 02:55:56.239 That is that is Nagamadi, through. 3533 02:55:56.040 --> 02:56:00.520 It through that is not with Gnostic teachings. Are what soever? 3534 02:56:00.680 --> 02:56:04.680 Have you read the Nagamati. There's nothing about There's multiple 3535 02:56:04.680 --> 02:56:06.879 books of the Nakamati. It's not like it's a pamphlet dog. 3536 02:56:06.920 --> 02:56:08.920 There's multiple books that are associated with it. 3537 02:56:08.959 --> 02:56:09.559 But all of the. 3538 02:56:10.120 --> 02:56:13.239 Nakhamady was found in here going and saying the Nagamati 3539 02:56:13.239 --> 02:56:14.520 was found in nineteen forty five. 3540 02:56:14.680 --> 02:56:18.719 Yeah, there was a a book. It wasn't many many books. 3541 02:56:19.719 --> 02:56:23.280 The Nakhamadi texts, that's a plural term texts. 3542 02:56:25.120 --> 02:56:27.520 There are just like sixty six books in the Bible, 3543 02:56:27.520 --> 02:56:30.000 but it's one book. That's how the Nagamadi is. Many 3544 02:56:30.040 --> 02:56:31.200 of different books comprised and. 3545 02:56:31.239 --> 02:56:35.879 Run right right, and all of those were gnostic, which 3546 02:56:35.920 --> 02:56:40.239 is it's heretical. They completely go opposite of the direction 3547 02:56:40.319 --> 02:56:41.639 that Jesus was trying to say. 3548 02:56:41.680 --> 02:56:42.239 Have you read that? 3549 02:56:42.360 --> 02:56:42.600 John? 3550 02:56:43.920 --> 02:56:45.719 Have I personally know have you? 3551 02:56:46.079 --> 02:56:47.600 Yeah? I've them. 3552 02:56:47.639 --> 02:56:49.399 I've read them, not all of them, but I did 3553 02:56:49.440 --> 02:56:51.159 a show on many of them, such as I mean, 3554 02:56:51.159 --> 02:56:53.840 we've talked about the Gospel of Thomas, We've talked about 3555 02:56:53.840 --> 02:56:55.159 the Gospel of Baron Magdalen. 3556 02:56:54.879 --> 02:56:59.000 And there's there's reasons why those weren't added to the Bible. 3557 02:56:59.040 --> 02:57:01.559 But yeah, I mean those you never rounds of scholars. 3558 02:57:01.920 --> 02:57:03.719 You don't even know if there's tons of scholars I 3559 02:57:03.719 --> 02:57:07.520 have what Okay, yes, but I also know of scholars 3560 02:57:07.559 --> 02:57:09.479 who have done the research and have put out so 3561 02:57:09.600 --> 02:57:12.600 many articles, so many videos, breaking down why the Gospel 3562 02:57:12.639 --> 02:57:15.319 of Thomas is gnastick and wasn't at it, The Gospel 3563 02:57:15.319 --> 02:57:18.000 of Mary Magdalene, the Gospel of Judas, all these extra 3564 02:57:18.079 --> 02:57:20.799 gospels weren't at it because first of all, they were 3565 02:57:20.799 --> 02:57:24.280 written centuries after the life of Christ, and also they 3566 02:57:24.280 --> 02:57:26.399 go against all of it. One of them talks about 3567 02:57:26.479 --> 02:57:29.200 Jesus went to Egypt and learned magic. One of them 3568 02:57:29.239 --> 02:57:32.159 talks about how he wasn't actually crucified on the cross, 3569 02:57:32.159 --> 02:57:34.200 it was his spirit that was crucified on the cross 3570 02:57:34.200 --> 02:57:36.360 to make it look like it was him. Another one 3571 02:57:36.360 --> 02:57:39.520 talking there's reasons why they weren't at it. They were 3572 02:57:39.639 --> 02:57:43.959 basically the a third century equivalent of plagiarization. 3573 02:57:44.959 --> 02:57:49.440 The Council of the Counts of Nicia created what we 3574 02:57:49.520 --> 02:57:53.000 know today as the Bible in three hundred something, the 3575 02:57:53.079 --> 02:57:56.399 same three hundred something around about time, I believe, maybe 3576 02:57:56.399 --> 02:58:00.360 a decade or two even before the Bible was prize, 3577 02:58:00.360 --> 02:58:03.879 that the Council of Nicea, that's whenever the Nagamadi was 3578 02:58:04.440 --> 02:58:07.760 the the the Gnostic text were created. And actually, something 3579 02:58:07.799 --> 02:58:09.760 that a lot of people bring up is is that 3580 02:58:09.879 --> 02:58:12.280 you hear like there's a there's a lot of like 3581 02:58:12.399 --> 02:58:16.200 offshoots of stories of Jesus. Like we've talked about him before. 3582 02:58:16.239 --> 02:58:19.520 There's a Korean Jesus, there's a Australian Jesus. We hear 3583 02:58:19.559 --> 02:58:22.200 about all these different stories. The Bible never mentions those. 3584 02:58:22.680 --> 02:58:25.920 But the only time that it ever hotly debates reason, 3585 02:58:26.200 --> 02:58:29.399 the only time that it ever hotly debates any other 3586 02:58:29.559 --> 02:58:33.799 scripture that is talking about Jesus strictly is the Gnostics. 3587 02:58:34.200 --> 02:58:37.479 That's the only time. So if it is so heretical 3588 02:58:37.719 --> 02:58:41.159 and so crazy and so out of this world, why 3589 02:58:41.159 --> 02:58:43.280 did they go out of their way to be able 3590 02:58:43.319 --> 02:58:45.520 to try and disprove it in the first place. That's 3591 02:58:45.559 --> 02:58:46.319 what's weird about it. 3592 02:58:46.360 --> 02:58:48.879 Wait say that again. The only ones that talk about 3593 02:58:48.959 --> 02:58:50.159 Jesus is the Gnostics. 3594 02:58:51.440 --> 02:58:53.040 That's the only one you just said. 3595 02:58:53.040 --> 02:58:56.360 That's the only one that the Church was really trying 3596 02:58:56.399 --> 02:58:59.000 to disprove out of all the other stories that are 3597 02:58:59.200 --> 02:59:01.719 found in all these different countries and all these different 3598 02:59:01.719 --> 02:59:03.639 cultures about Jesus. That's what I'm trying to say. 3599 02:59:04.120 --> 02:59:08.479 Yeah, everything else is or Gnostic, right basically. 3600 02:59:09.200 --> 02:59:13.479 Not necessarily, but like there's a for first of the 3601 02:59:13.520 --> 02:59:18.120 abortisms off of the Aboriginals of Australia, the ancient Romans 3602 02:59:18.120 --> 02:59:22.559 didn't know they existed, Like that continent wasn't discovered by 3603 02:59:22.559 --> 02:59:26.200 people in Europe until the eighteen hundreds. So like to 3604 02:59:26.200 --> 02:59:28.360 say that they had a Jesus story, but those weren't 3605 02:59:28.360 --> 02:59:28.920 added to it. 3606 02:59:28.920 --> 02:59:31.479 It's like, well, no shit, I'm not talking about them. 3607 02:59:31.520 --> 02:59:36.000 But dude, we've covered about how other countries literally have 3608 02:59:36.280 --> 02:59:39.319 stories of Jesus going there. Now, whether it happened or not, 3609 02:59:39.360 --> 02:59:41.280 it doesn't matter. I'm not even trying to prove that 3610 02:59:41.319 --> 02:59:45.879 it did. But those stories are never really debated. The 3611 02:59:45.920 --> 02:59:49.079 only stories that are ever highly debated are the Gnostic ones. 3612 02:59:49.360 --> 02:59:51.840 And so what I'm trying to tell you before I 3613 02:59:51.879 --> 02:59:54.520 even go any further, because you don't even know what 3614 02:59:54.559 --> 02:59:59.319 the basis of the context of this Gnostic understanding actually 3615 02:59:59.360 --> 03:00:01.120 is because you never read it yourself. You're only just 3616 03:00:01.159 --> 03:00:02.920 taking it on the word of what you believe to 3617 03:00:02.959 --> 03:00:05.440 be experts, which is not a really good way to 3618 03:00:05.440 --> 03:00:07.440 debate anything if you're only going off the words of 3619 03:00:07.520 --> 03:00:10.600 quote unquote experts and never having really delved into the 3620 03:00:10.639 --> 03:00:14.200 information yourself. What I would suggest to you, sir, is 3621 03:00:14.239 --> 03:00:17.520 if you actually get your hands on a Nagamadi and. 3622 03:00:17.520 --> 03:00:20.520 Read through it, don't even go through it with you 3623 03:00:20.559 --> 03:00:22.719 actually bring it, bring. 3624 03:00:22.479 --> 03:00:25.520 Your your mind that you have right now. Oh this 3625 03:00:25.559 --> 03:00:27.879 is heretical, Oh this is bullshit. Go through each line 3626 03:00:27.920 --> 03:00:30.440 and you just have that. But read it, read it 3627 03:00:30.479 --> 03:00:32.959 and listen to what I'm trying to say. There's a 3628 03:00:33.079 --> 03:00:37.319 Gnostic understanding with it, which is gnosis, which is a knowing, 3629 03:00:37.399 --> 03:00:40.040 which is what the Gnostics were trying to teach. And 3630 03:00:40.120 --> 03:00:44.760 then there's another council of nicea Roman Empire type bullshit 3631 03:00:44.959 --> 03:00:48.760 that was trying to force everybody to believe or have faith. 3632 03:00:48.920 --> 03:00:51.479 There is no knowing. This is where the divide is. 3633 03:00:51.559 --> 03:00:55.000 That's the point that I'm trying to make. Sorry, I'm 3634 03:00:55.040 --> 03:00:56.000 off my high horse. 3635 03:00:55.799 --> 03:00:59.600 Now, No, I just I'm really tired of having religious 3636 03:00:59.600 --> 03:01:02.159 debates on a conspiracy show. It's like, we can't help 3637 03:01:02.200 --> 03:01:04.600 ourselves but to end up back on these conversations. 3638 03:01:04.959 --> 03:01:08.159 But to further this point, fine, fine, we can go there. 3639 03:01:08.440 --> 03:01:10.520 Do you know why the hotly debated ones are the 3640 03:01:10.520 --> 03:01:14.319 Gnostic texts as opposed to the canonical books, because those 3641 03:01:14.399 --> 03:01:17.319 are the ones that were in the area when, uh, 3642 03:01:17.440 --> 03:01:20.360 what's the Sinai Bible, As Ben Carson says, what we'd 3643 03:01:20.440 --> 03:01:24.399 now call Codex Sinaticus was first comprised, okay the Robin 3644 03:01:24.479 --> 03:01:27.360 Emperor can Constantian, who was like, like, yo, I want 3645 03:01:27.399 --> 03:01:29.360 to make this the were official religion of Rome. 3646 03:01:29.600 --> 03:01:31.879 We need to do this. What books are there? 3647 03:01:31.879 --> 03:01:34.079 Because there were tons of books out there, the Gospel 3648 03:01:34.120 --> 03:01:36.479 of Judas, the Gospel of Mary Magdalen, the Gospel of Mark, 3649 03:01:37.159 --> 03:01:39.600 all these books are floating around. He's like, okay, if 3650 03:01:39.639 --> 03:01:42.200 we're gonna make this the official religion, we got to 3651 03:01:42.239 --> 03:01:44.479 put together a book of what is and is not 3652 03:01:44.520 --> 03:01:44.879 the truth. 3653 03:01:44.879 --> 03:01:46.760 There's tons of words going around. We need to get 3654 03:01:46.799 --> 03:01:47.440 it together here. 3655 03:01:47.799 --> 03:01:49.600 So we got all of the church follows that he 3656 03:01:49.600 --> 03:01:51.559 could find, and they got together and they looked in 3657 03:01:51.600 --> 03:01:55.040 this said okay. These books are a part of the 3658 03:01:55.079 --> 03:01:58.600 original documentation. These are either from eyewitnesses or one to 3659 03:01:58.680 --> 03:02:00.799 two generations removed from the eyewitnesses. 3660 03:02:01.120 --> 03:02:03.319 They follow in line with the story and the teachings. 3661 03:02:03.360 --> 03:02:06.399 Cool things these books over here, and for the record, 3662 03:02:06.600 --> 03:02:08.399 some of them I disagree with. Some of them I 3663 03:02:08.440 --> 03:02:10.799 think should have been added to the Bible, but weren't. 3664 03:02:11.040 --> 03:02:13.360 For instance, the Book of Enoch, the Book of Jubilee, 3665 03:02:13.399 --> 03:02:16.000 the Book of Asher. I am of the belief that 3666 03:02:16.000 --> 03:02:17.840 that should have been added to the Old Testament. 3667 03:02:17.920 --> 03:02:20.760 They weren't. I had no word in this I wasn't there. 3668 03:02:21.360 --> 03:02:24.280 But they took all of the apocryphal texts and all 3669 03:02:24.319 --> 03:02:26.840 of the Gnostic texts and they decided which did and 3670 03:02:26.879 --> 03:02:31.239 did not belong in the official word. Yeah, there's a 3671 03:02:31.280 --> 03:02:33.680 reason why those are debated, because those were there at 3672 03:02:33.719 --> 03:02:35.680 the time and place when this council was put together. 3673 03:02:36.000 --> 03:02:37.879 Listen, listen to what I'm trying to say. I'm not 3674 03:02:37.920 --> 03:02:40.840 trying to debate you on this topic. What I'm trying 3675 03:02:40.879 --> 03:02:41.159 to show. 3676 03:02:41.159 --> 03:02:42.159 That's all you ever do. 3677 03:02:42.360 --> 03:02:42.520 Bro. 3678 03:02:42.799 --> 03:02:44.840 First of all, you're the one that brought up religion 3679 03:02:44.879 --> 03:02:46.879 in this whole conversation in the first place. Let's just be. 3680 03:02:46.840 --> 03:02:50.479 Reallycitated now, not bring up religion on this episode. I 3681 03:02:50.600 --> 03:02:52.879 came late. What I wasn't doing. 3682 03:02:52.920 --> 03:02:55.680 Shit, he card back right now, because when we were 3683 03:02:55.719 --> 03:02:58.040 talking about when humanity was first started, you were the 3684 03:02:58.040 --> 03:03:01.000 first one to say that the Bible really we don't know, 3685 03:03:01.280 --> 03:03:03.280 it's all word of mouth. We don't know when it 3686 03:03:03.280 --> 03:03:04.959 was written. Did if I can say that? Or was 3687 03:03:05.000 --> 03:03:05.600 that a you thing? 3688 03:03:07.000 --> 03:03:09.559 I didn't bring up the creation of humanity. I answered 3689 03:03:09.559 --> 03:03:11.840 a question that was proposed, and you brought it up 3690 03:03:11.879 --> 03:03:16.600 in a religious manner. Yeah, your name, so was the 3691 03:03:16.600 --> 03:03:19.360 first person born who brought it up? 3692 03:03:19.479 --> 03:03:21.799 Adam wasn't the first. I don't know. 3693 03:03:22.000 --> 03:03:26.760 It wasn't me, I answered, I'm not saying you asked it, 3694 03:03:26.959 --> 03:03:30.840 but Jesus Christ, dude, Adam was born on the eighth day, 3695 03:03:30.920 --> 03:03:32.360 humanity was on the sixth day. 3696 03:03:32.719 --> 03:03:33.559 It's not my fault. 3697 03:03:33.840 --> 03:03:34.639 He didn't do that. 3698 03:03:34.799 --> 03:03:38.760 Jacob, Listen, Nope, Like, I know that you're a religious person, 3699 03:03:39.319 --> 03:03:41.959 but I don't want you to think that anybody is 3700 03:03:42.000 --> 03:03:45.479 attacking you. You take it so personal, feel attacked. It's 3701 03:03:45.479 --> 03:03:48.879 a conversation, that's all it is. Nobody's saying that it's 3702 03:03:48.920 --> 03:03:51.360 stupid or whatever. We're just trying to show a different 3703 03:03:51.399 --> 03:03:56.479 perspective that we, you know, genuinely want to see what 3704 03:03:56.799 --> 03:03:58.920 you have to say about it. And it's not to 3705 03:03:58.959 --> 03:04:00.879 say that like we're not coming at you and saying 3706 03:04:00.920 --> 03:04:03.440 this is bullshit or anything. We're showing a different perspective. 3707 03:04:03.559 --> 03:04:08.120 And so, eh, my perspective here is that if you 3708 03:04:08.280 --> 03:04:10.680 were to go back, and you were to go back 3709 03:04:10.719 --> 03:04:12.520 in the time of the three hundreds, when we talked 3710 03:04:12.559 --> 03:04:15.239 about the Council of Nicea and we talked about the 3711 03:04:15.760 --> 03:04:20.120 Gnostic text. Think about it like this. Whenever they were 3712 03:04:20.159 --> 03:04:23.680 trying to bring all these books together, were they doing 3713 03:04:23.680 --> 03:04:26.440 it because they really cared about Jesus so much, or 3714 03:04:26.440 --> 03:04:30.200 were they trying to enforce it via control because it 3715 03:04:30.239 --> 03:04:32.760 was the leaders that were bringing this book together. And 3716 03:04:32.840 --> 03:04:35.719 if you were to insert the Gnostic text, then it 3717 03:04:35.799 --> 03:04:39.120 would have people coming to their own enlightening, because that's 3718 03:04:39.159 --> 03:04:41.760 all the Gnostic texts were all talking about. It wasn't 3719 03:04:41.799 --> 03:04:44.079 saying that God is outside of you. It wasn't saying 3720 03:04:44.079 --> 03:04:46.319 that Jesus was the savior. It wasn't saying that you 3721 03:04:46.360 --> 03:04:48.159 had to wait for somebody to come and save you. 3722 03:04:48.520 --> 03:04:48.760 All. 3723 03:04:48.879 --> 03:04:50.360 That's why I was trying to say that you need 3724 03:04:50.399 --> 03:04:52.360 to look into it and see what it says to 3725 03:04:52.399 --> 03:04:53.840 be able to get a different perspective. 3726 03:04:55.319 --> 03:04:58.040 By your argument, I can't speak on the Gnostic text 3727 03:04:58.040 --> 03:05:00.840 because I've never read them, so your argument, I can't 3728 03:05:00.840 --> 03:05:04.120 speak on anything medical because I'm not a doctor, even 3729 03:05:04.159 --> 03:05:06.000 though I can look at what doctors say, and I 3730 03:05:06.040 --> 03:05:08.120 could look at medical sciences and I could like speak 3731 03:05:08.159 --> 03:05:09.760 on some things. I don't know it all, but like 3732 03:05:10.120 --> 03:05:12.719 I've heard from experts on certain things, and I feel 3733 03:05:12.760 --> 03:05:15.159 with the decent amount of a surety that tailanaw does 3734 03:05:15.200 --> 03:05:17.840 help inflammation. Like I could say that, but I can't 3735 03:05:17.840 --> 03:05:20.319 say that because I'm not a doctor. You're the same logic. 3736 03:05:20.360 --> 03:05:24.399 You just no, no, no, you're only because I look at scholars. 3737 03:05:25.760 --> 03:05:29.600 Your only quote unquote research is what other people have 3738 03:05:29.680 --> 03:05:30.719 to say about it. 3739 03:05:31.159 --> 03:05:34.200 That's my point. Whenever we do research into COVID, we're 3740 03:05:34.239 --> 03:05:36.399 looking at all the different articles, We're looking at what 3741 03:05:36.479 --> 03:05:40.040 everybody's saying. We're not only looking at experts, We're looking 3742 03:05:40.079 --> 03:05:43.879 at you know, uh fucking holistic teachings and all that 3743 03:05:43.920 --> 03:05:46.959 other shit, right, Like, it's not just one point of view. 3744 03:05:47.319 --> 03:05:49.159 That's the point I'm trying to make is that you 3745 03:05:49.280 --> 03:05:53.000 have a very narrow understanding about what it is we're 3746 03:05:53.000 --> 03:05:56.159 talking about. With the Gnostics. It's just narrow. It's not 3747 03:05:56.680 --> 03:05:58.959 it's not, you know, all encompassing. 3748 03:06:00.680 --> 03:06:03.559 So if I was to comprise a list of all 3749 03:06:03.680 --> 03:06:06.680 the Gnic gospels and explain why each of them weren't 3750 03:06:06.719 --> 03:06:10.079 put into the Bible and how they are heretical, would 3751 03:06:10.159 --> 03:06:13.719 you leave it alone at that point and understand why 3752 03:06:13.840 --> 03:06:16.159 I don't believe that they are canonical and why they're 3753 03:06:16.159 --> 03:06:18.159 not something that we need to apply to our lives. 3754 03:06:18.440 --> 03:06:20.879 I'm not saying no one should read them because they're satiric. 3755 03:06:20.920 --> 03:06:21.879 I didn't say that. 3756 03:06:22.040 --> 03:06:24.360 I didn't say that at all. Okay, I believe that 3757 03:06:24.360 --> 03:06:25.719 you should be able to read the what's the one 3758 03:06:25.799 --> 03:06:28.000 the bag of a gear that you're talking about, Read 3759 03:06:28.040 --> 03:06:31.719 it absolutely, Read that. Excuse me if I mispronounced it. Okay, 3760 03:06:31.920 --> 03:06:35.280 the Nasa Gospels. Read them absolutely, see what they were 3761 03:06:35.319 --> 03:06:39.120 talking about. But it should be very clear by reading them, 3762 03:06:39.200 --> 03:06:41.639 how and why these are not in line with what 3763 03:06:41.799 --> 03:06:45.239 actual Jesus was teaching, and how these are plagarized forgeries 3764 03:06:45.280 --> 03:06:47.799 written about way later, and why they weren't added to 3765 03:06:47.840 --> 03:06:48.840 the actual Bible. 3766 03:06:49.399 --> 03:06:50.200 That's all I'm saying. 3767 03:06:50.840 --> 03:06:54.440 Let me draw a comparison here so that maybe you'll 3768 03:06:54.719 --> 03:06:58.280 try to begin to understand understand the perspective, because I 3769 03:06:58.280 --> 03:07:00.760 feel like you're not getting the perspective the perspective that 3770 03:07:00.799 --> 03:07:01.159 I'm trying. 3771 03:07:01.239 --> 03:07:02.360 I understand what you're saying. 3772 03:07:02.399 --> 03:07:04.479 It's lost knowledge in God's within all of us, and 3773 03:07:04.479 --> 03:07:05.879 there's more than one way to salvation. 3774 03:07:06.079 --> 03:07:07.079 I disagree with that. 3775 03:07:07.319 --> 03:07:10.319 What I'm trying to say is is if we're looking 3776 03:07:10.440 --> 03:07:14.239 at the Council of Nicea, who composed all of the 3777 03:07:14.239 --> 03:07:17.120 books into what is now known as the Bible, which 3778 03:07:17.159 --> 03:07:18.040 was in the three hundred. 3779 03:07:18.079 --> 03:07:20.200 I don't believe that was done to control the masses. 3780 03:07:20.399 --> 03:07:22.879 I know that that's a argument, and I understand why 3781 03:07:22.920 --> 03:07:24.360 people would believe that that's the case. 3782 03:07:24.440 --> 03:07:25.639 I disagree with it, that's all. 3783 03:07:25.840 --> 03:07:28.040 Was it the leaders that were doing that or was 3784 03:07:28.079 --> 03:07:31.079 it like your regular poor people that were doing that. Also, 3785 03:07:31.079 --> 03:07:34.799 the Gnostics had nothing. That was the early the nstal 3786 03:07:34.840 --> 03:07:37.120 thing the game. They never got rich, they never got famous, 3787 03:07:37.200 --> 03:07:39.879 they never got anything. As a matter of fact, they 3788 03:07:39.879 --> 03:07:40.360 were hunted. 3789 03:07:42.799 --> 03:07:44.600 They were not hunted at all. 3790 03:07:44.879 --> 03:07:46.680 Actually they murdered. 3791 03:07:47.120 --> 03:07:48.719 They were absolutely not. 3792 03:07:48.799 --> 03:07:49.840 In ancient Rome. 3793 03:07:50.000 --> 03:07:51.840 Later on, if you're talking like the Cathars and shit, 3794 03:07:51.959 --> 03:07:53.719 yeah they were hunted and like it was brutal and 3795 03:07:53.760 --> 03:07:57.600 genocide type conversation. But like the Gnostic conversation, why did 3796 03:07:57.639 --> 03:07:59.280 they do these things? I don't believe that they were 3797 03:07:59.280 --> 03:08:01.440 doing it for a get it's quick scheme by any means. 3798 03:08:01.520 --> 03:08:05.000 My point is is that if we compare it to today, 3799 03:08:05.399 --> 03:08:07.760 and I know that that is very skewed, but that's 3800 03:08:07.840 --> 03:08:08.719 the only thing that I know. 3801 03:08:08.799 --> 03:08:11.200 I have only lived in today's age. If we compare 3802 03:08:11.239 --> 03:08:16.000 it to today, you're essentially saying the elites of the 3803 03:08:16.040 --> 03:08:20.120 world got it right, and the people that were questioning 3804 03:08:20.200 --> 03:08:22.479 it are absolutely wrong. 3805 03:08:24.200 --> 03:08:26.639 So you believe that the Council of nicea first and 3806 03:08:26.680 --> 03:08:30.120 second half that was government officials, that's who was speaking. 3807 03:08:30.079 --> 03:08:32.959 Not even necessarily government officials, but just those in power. 3808 03:08:33.120 --> 03:08:36.639 Would how do you disagree with that? I believe it 3809 03:08:36.680 --> 03:08:38.040 was the early church fathers. 3810 03:08:38.120 --> 03:08:40.520 I don't believe that it was the positions of power 3811 03:08:40.600 --> 03:08:41.920 trying to rule humanity. 3812 03:08:42.040 --> 03:08:44.040 That's what I'm saying. This is where I disagree. 3813 03:08:45.559 --> 03:08:47.879 Okay, I mean, and that's the thing. It was the Church, 3814 03:08:48.159 --> 03:08:49.840 which Jesus was not a fan of. 3815 03:08:50.000 --> 03:08:53.600 Right, This wasn't what you would think of with big 3816 03:08:53.680 --> 03:08:57.319 c Catholic. Okay, this is the very early form of Christendom. 3817 03:08:57.520 --> 03:08:59.920 This is before they had all the dog and pony 3818 03:09:00.079 --> 03:09:02.559 show for the Catholic Mass and all these things. It wasn't. 3819 03:09:02.639 --> 03:09:05.360 This wasn't the control tactic that people think it was. 3820 03:09:05.959 --> 03:09:09.360 This is back when people were still literally fifteen years 3821 03:09:09.399 --> 03:09:11.479 before it became the national religion of Rome. They were 3822 03:09:11.479 --> 03:09:14.440 being executed for being Christian Like. These were people that 3823 03:09:14.520 --> 03:09:17.559 were conducting church services and I'm using that term with 3824 03:09:17.639 --> 03:09:20.719 quotes and very loosely in secret for fear of being 3825 03:09:20.920 --> 03:09:24.920 killed and becoming martyrs. Like, it's not This wasn't what 3826 03:09:24.959 --> 03:09:27.200 you're thinking of with the grand shebang of a Roman 3827 03:09:27.239 --> 03:09:29.000 Catholic mass that came much later. 3828 03:09:30.959 --> 03:09:33.520 I mean something had to be a precursor to what 3829 03:09:33.520 --> 03:09:35.840 that inevitably became, wouldn't you say? 3830 03:09:36.280 --> 03:09:40.799 That would be the liturgical liturgical essence of Alexandria, which 3831 03:09:40.840 --> 03:09:42.440 was much much much later. 3832 03:09:44.639 --> 03:09:49.000 So the people that comprised it at the Council of Nice. 3833 03:09:48.799 --> 03:09:52.360 Council of Nicea. Yeah, that wasn't a Roman Catholic thing. 3834 03:09:52.399 --> 03:09:53.479 That was a Christian thing. 3835 03:09:54.920 --> 03:09:59.079 Okay, you can say Christian, but like which Christians. 3836 03:10:00.360 --> 03:10:03.760 At this time there was not a denomination thereof there 3837 03:10:03.799 --> 03:10:08.280 was followers of Christ, that was it. Hmmm who Now 3838 03:10:09.000 --> 03:10:12.239 the Catholic Church will claim that this was the beginning 3839 03:10:12.319 --> 03:10:16.680 of the Roman Catholic Church, but the Eastern Orthodox would 3840 03:10:16.760 --> 03:10:19.200 say that this is the beginning of the Apostolic Church, 3841 03:10:19.719 --> 03:10:22.479 and the Ethiopian Coptics would say that this is their 3842 03:10:22.559 --> 03:10:25.600 version of the beginning of the Apostolic Church. It's it 3843 03:10:25.600 --> 03:10:28.959 doesn't matter we throw our modern day monikers on it. 3844 03:10:29.000 --> 03:10:32.120 But at this time, these denominations and sects of Christianity 3845 03:10:32.159 --> 03:10:34.799 hadn't splintered off yet it was in Rome. So I 3846 03:10:34.799 --> 03:10:37.040 guess there's that argument to say it was Roman Catholic. 3847 03:10:37.079 --> 03:10:39.879 But it's not what we're thinking of with Like all 3848 03:10:39.920 --> 03:10:41.799 of the the Vatican wasn't a. 3849 03:10:41.680 --> 03:10:43.799 Thing yet, you know what I mean. All of this 3850 03:10:43.959 --> 03:10:44.840 was much much later. 3851 03:10:45.360 --> 03:10:48.840 The first, the first Council of Nicea was called by 3852 03:10:48.959 --> 03:10:54.040 Emperor Constantine, the first, the first Roman emperor to convert 3853 03:10:54.040 --> 03:10:57.639 to Christianity. It's but it's before I just said, but 3854 03:10:57.680 --> 03:11:00.079 it's before the Roman. 3855 03:11:00.200 --> 03:11:03.239 The Roman Catholic Church. Yeah, he was a Roman emperor, 3856 03:11:03.239 --> 03:11:04.079 not a Roman pope. 3857 03:11:04.239 --> 03:11:06.159 And the goal, like I said, and it says that 3858 03:11:06.239 --> 03:11:09.639 the goal was to unify Christian doctrine across the empire 3859 03:11:09.760 --> 03:11:13.280 and end internal disputes, especially about the nature of Jesus. 3860 03:11:13.479 --> 03:11:16.799 This was not a gathering of Jesus's apostles or early followers. 3861 03:11:17.040 --> 03:11:21.680 It was a political theological summit uh nearly three hundred 3862 03:11:21.719 --> 03:11:23.280 years after Jesus' time. 3863 03:11:24.959 --> 03:11:27.360 Agreed. Like I said, the early Church fathers, they didn't 3864 03:11:27.360 --> 03:11:29.719 grab Roman senators and bring them in to decide which 3865 03:11:29.760 --> 03:11:32.000 books should and shouldn't be added. So they brought the 3866 03:11:32.120 --> 03:11:34.920 Church fathers who so clause know. 3867 03:11:35.280 --> 03:11:38.280 In the World Economic Forum all got together and said, 3868 03:11:38.360 --> 03:11:39.159 here's the truth. 3869 03:11:39.399 --> 03:11:39.879 We got it. 3870 03:11:39.920 --> 03:11:40.760 We're gonna save you. 3871 03:11:41.200 --> 03:11:42.079 That's what we're saying. 3872 03:11:43.840 --> 03:11:45.959 This is why we can never get anywhere. Dude, I 3873 03:11:46.040 --> 03:11:48.360 just said early church fathers, the dudes that were like 3874 03:11:48.440 --> 03:11:51.840 trying to convert Pagans to Christians. You're saying it was 3875 03:11:51.920 --> 03:11:54.680 obviously the Roman politicians, Like, no, no, no, it was 3876 03:11:54.719 --> 03:11:55.959 done for that reason. 3877 03:11:56.040 --> 03:11:56.680 I'll give you that. 3878 03:11:56.760 --> 03:11:59.360 He just made it the national religion of Rome when 3879 03:11:59.600 --> 03:12:02.639 fucked twenty years prior it was illegal to be a Christian. 3880 03:12:03.040 --> 03:12:07.959 He saw Christianity as a tool to unify the Roman Empire. 3881 03:12:09.239 --> 03:12:12.399 Because it was growing so fast that he couldn't stop it. 3882 03:12:13.840 --> 03:12:18.959 You don't see how there couldn't have been fuckery either, again, 3883 03:12:19.040 --> 03:12:19.200 do you? 3884 03:12:20.319 --> 03:12:20.479 Oh? 3885 03:12:20.520 --> 03:12:22.239 I'm not saying there couldn't have been fuckery. But you 3886 03:12:22.280 --> 03:12:24.639 could also look at the early accounts of not Rome. 3887 03:12:24.680 --> 03:12:26.280 You could look at the early accounts of even the 3888 03:12:26.280 --> 03:12:29.920 secular authors, and they talk about this new Christ's cult 3889 03:12:30.159 --> 03:12:32.520 that was growing in such numbers that it couldn't be 3890 03:12:33.079 --> 03:12:33.799 like reputed. 3891 03:12:34.079 --> 03:12:35.680 And even though you could try killing. 3892 03:12:35.479 --> 03:12:37.239 Them all, you could try feeding them all the lions 3893 03:12:37.280 --> 03:12:39.879 and the Roman candles and all these things. 3894 03:12:40.200 --> 03:12:41.920 Somehow they just kept growing. 3895 03:12:42.200 --> 03:12:44.799 So it got to a point that he was basically like, Okay, 3896 03:12:44.879 --> 03:12:47.879 either we try to make this a thing, or they're 3897 03:12:47.920 --> 03:12:49.920 going to overtake us and we have more problems. 3898 03:12:51.040 --> 03:12:54.319 So it says why is this controversial? Because it marked 3899 03:12:54.360 --> 03:12:57.719 the moment when spiritual teaching became a political doctrine, the 3900 03:12:57.799 --> 03:13:02.000 church started aligning with imperial power. Alternate Christianities such as 3901 03:13:02.040 --> 03:13:07.680 Gnostic Ebonite, Ariyan marcion Kite were declared heretical, and many 3902 03:13:07.719 --> 03:13:10.520 at that time argued that the Council of Nicia didn't 3903 03:13:10.559 --> 03:13:12.680 find the truth it voted on it. 3904 03:13:14.479 --> 03:13:17.719 Yeah, and the Ebionites those were like the scenes which 3905 03:13:17.799 --> 03:13:21.719 were like the they made Nazarene Christianity illegal, and like 3906 03:13:21.760 --> 03:13:25.120 there's an argument to be said that, like they picked 3907 03:13:25.159 --> 03:13:28.920 the version of Christianity because there was, like, like you 3908 03:13:29.000 --> 03:13:33.440 just said, a bunch of different groups of Christians like 3909 03:13:34.000 --> 03:13:38.479 worshiping in different kind of ways, and it seems like 3910 03:13:38.719 --> 03:13:42.959 they picked the one that most aligned with their narrative. 3911 03:13:43.079 --> 03:13:46.360 I guess right, right, It says, so a group of 3912 03:13:46.360 --> 03:13:49.879 politically pressured bishops led by a led by a pagan 3913 03:13:49.920 --> 03:13:55.000 turned Christian emperor defining what Christianity must be not necessarily 3914 03:13:55.000 --> 03:13:56.239 what it originally was. 3915 03:13:57.840 --> 03:13:59.280 Are you reading off of Chad Gpt? 3916 03:14:00.319 --> 03:14:03.799 Yeah, okay, just asking none of this is like a 3917 03:14:03.879 --> 03:14:07.879 quote from Well, I'm not saying that to like disparage it. 3918 03:14:08.000 --> 03:14:09.159 I'm just saying I didn't know if this is like 3919 03:14:09.159 --> 03:14:10.840 a quote from a scholar or like, if this is 3920 03:14:10.920 --> 03:14:13.399 like the all encomassing of what the Internet says, I'm not. 3921 03:14:14.319 --> 03:14:16.120 I mean, I'm sure I can ask for the reference 3922 03:14:16.159 --> 03:14:18.079 as to where they're getting it from, but that I mean, 3923 03:14:19.000 --> 03:14:22.440 at that point, it's like I don't know. And look, 3924 03:14:22.479 --> 03:14:24.719 I'm not trying, I'm just I'm just trying to point 3925 03:14:24.719 --> 03:14:28.479 out that there is Back then, at the very least, 3926 03:14:28.639 --> 03:14:31.280 there was way more than one way to skin a 3927 03:14:31.319 --> 03:14:33.559 cat to the story, and then the Council of Nicea 3928 03:14:33.639 --> 03:14:35.799 comes and now there's only one way and every other 3929 03:14:35.840 --> 03:14:40.319 way is heretical. And you choose to not even you 3930 03:14:40.479 --> 03:14:44.520 choose to not even look into something because that religion 3931 03:14:44.559 --> 03:14:46.520 tells you that it's heretical. Don't even look into it. 3932 03:14:47.040 --> 03:14:49.680 That's That's where I'm like, you know, when since when 3933 03:14:49.840 --> 03:14:54.600 is like knowledge bad? When is wisdom bad? When is 3934 03:14:54.639 --> 03:14:57.639 more information bad? Like maybe we should take all of 3935 03:14:57.680 --> 03:15:00.040 it in to really get a greater understanding of the 3936 03:15:00.079 --> 03:15:02.760 whole story, because you're getting a piece of the story. 3937 03:15:03.559 --> 03:15:06.159 I can name a few examples where there is such 3938 03:15:06.159 --> 03:15:08.399 a thing as too much knowledge, right, you think about 3939 03:15:08.840 --> 03:15:11.239 if they kept working towards if they could, they never 3940 03:15:11.239 --> 03:15:13.959 stopped to ask if they should. There's tons of examples 3941 03:15:14.000 --> 03:15:16.639 of that. But that's that's gonna detract from the conversation. 3942 03:15:17.200 --> 03:15:19.280 Hold on real quick, Austin, Your hand is gone up 3943 03:15:19.319 --> 03:15:21.040 and down a few times. Brother, Go ahead. 3944 03:15:21.639 --> 03:15:24.319 I was just gonna say, like, if you were gonna 3945 03:15:24.440 --> 03:15:28.440 try and to control a growing group of people, what 3946 03:15:28.479 --> 03:15:31.399 would be a better way than to control the books 3947 03:15:31.440 --> 03:15:34.479 they were able to read. That's all I'm saying that 3948 03:15:34.719 --> 03:15:38.000 I agree with Conathan in this way, shape and form, 3949 03:15:38.440 --> 03:15:41.760 that it is a way to control the populace. That's 3950 03:15:41.760 --> 03:15:42.399 all I'm saying. 3951 03:15:42.520 --> 03:15:42.920 I see that. 3952 03:15:44.399 --> 03:15:45.719 No, No, I absolutely see that. 3953 03:15:45.760 --> 03:15:48.799 And there's tons of argument to be made for all religion, 3954 03:15:48.879 --> 03:15:51.520 not just Christianity, but all religion to be a source 3955 03:15:51.559 --> 03:15:55.959 of controlling the masses and keeping them not necessarily scared 3956 03:15:56.000 --> 03:15:58.520 of the government's reach, but scared of what will happen 3957 03:15:58.559 --> 03:16:00.600 to their eternal soul if they still out of line. 3958 03:16:00.760 --> 03:16:03.440 I see the argument, and I'm not negating it. I 3959 03:16:03.520 --> 03:16:06.520 am saying that I respectfully disagree. I believe that this 3960 03:16:06.639 --> 03:16:09.920 book gives you freedom, it does not bind you in chains. 3961 03:16:10.040 --> 03:16:11.399 That's just my perspective. 3962 03:16:11.520 --> 03:16:17.079 Well, it's free will kind of you're born with that. Yeah, 3963 03:16:17.079 --> 03:16:19.239 but it's like you have free will, but it's kind 3964 03:16:19.280 --> 03:16:22.440 of an illusion of free will because if you choose 3965 03:16:22.600 --> 03:16:26.760 not to go with the Holy Word, then there is punishment. 3966 03:16:26.840 --> 03:16:28.360 So it's kind of an illusion of free will in 3967 03:16:28.360 --> 03:16:29.760 a sense according to the doctrine. 3968 03:16:31.159 --> 03:16:33.120 Isn't that what karma believes as well? You could do 3969 03:16:33.120 --> 03:16:34.879 what you want, but there's gonna be consequences. 3970 03:16:36.040 --> 03:16:38.559 Well sure, but karma works both. 3971 03:16:38.360 --> 03:16:43.360 Ways, so okay, fair, So what are we talking about here. Yeah, 3972 03:16:43.399 --> 03:16:46.719 we are born with free will. There's consequences for all actions, 3973 03:16:46.719 --> 03:16:50.280 both positive and negative. That's literally what the book tells us. 3974 03:16:50.559 --> 03:16:53.360 You do the right thing, there there's gifts and glory 3975 03:16:53.399 --> 03:16:55.000 to be had, and if you do the wrong thing, 3976 03:16:55.079 --> 03:16:58.159 there is punishments to be doled out. That's naming a 3977 03:16:58.239 --> 03:17:00.879 religion that doesn't have that in some way, shape or form. 3978 03:17:00.879 --> 03:17:02.760 Not gonna lie. I tried taking a nap before the 3979 03:17:02.760 --> 03:17:06.399 show because I was a little tired. Oh man, I'm 3980 03:17:06.440 --> 03:17:07.719 all hopped up on Mountain dew. 3981 03:17:08.399 --> 03:17:10.079 Let's go, baby, I can tell. 3982 03:17:10.920 --> 03:17:13.000 And for the record, no, I haven't read all the 3983 03:17:13.000 --> 03:17:16.719 Gnostic Gospels, but I have read into them before I 3984 03:17:16.760 --> 03:17:20.120 have not start to finish. I've seen excerpts. I've seen 3985 03:17:20.200 --> 03:17:23.319 certain things within them that definitely rhyme and sound very 3986 03:17:23.360 --> 03:17:25.920 much like what Jesus was saying. And I've seen certain 3987 03:17:26.000 --> 03:17:28.879 quotes that are clearly not within the realm of what 3988 03:17:29.000 --> 03:17:31.000 Jesus was saying. And there's, like I said, there's reasons 3989 03:17:31.000 --> 03:17:34.639 why they weren't added. But the earliest that we have 3990 03:17:34.760 --> 03:17:38.680 because Constantine, like like you said, turned Rome into a 3991 03:17:38.760 --> 03:17:41.399 Christian nation, and he had to try to find a 3992 03:17:41.399 --> 03:17:43.559 way to organize what was going on because they had 3993 03:17:43.639 --> 03:17:47.120 all these breakoff sects of Christianity, and so he wanted 3994 03:17:47.120 --> 03:17:50.520 to get all of these these books, these scrolls, all 3995 03:17:50.520 --> 03:17:53.040 of the shit and compile it to one book that 3996 03:17:53.079 --> 03:17:56.639 we could use as the steps moving forward. What should 3997 03:17:56.639 --> 03:17:59.280 be added, what shouldn't be added. This guy is saying 3998 03:17:59.280 --> 03:18:02.000 that Jesus was black. This guy is saying that Jesus 3999 03:18:02.000 --> 03:18:04.520 actually went and't crucified. Where where's the truth in all 4000 03:18:04.559 --> 03:18:06.879 of this? Where are we drawing these comparisons from. Get 4001 03:18:06.920 --> 03:18:09.600 me every single scrap of evidence and paper that you 4002 03:18:09.680 --> 03:18:11.079 can find on this. Guy. 4003 03:18:11.479 --> 03:18:12.440 Let's bring it together. 4004 03:18:12.680 --> 03:18:14.840 Let's get some educated dudes in on this, Let's get 4005 03:18:14.879 --> 03:18:17.280 the church fathers in on this, and let's try to 4006 03:18:17.399 --> 03:18:19.719 formulate this into a book. 4007 03:18:20.120 --> 03:18:22.360 They formed it into a series of codexes. 4008 03:18:22.719 --> 03:18:26.159 Codex Sinaticus is one of these books that we believe 4009 03:18:26.319 --> 03:18:29.719 was these books that were like formed under the direct 4010 03:18:29.840 --> 03:18:32.200 order of Constantine. 4011 03:18:32.440 --> 03:18:36.680 Okay, no, I get it, that's the official narrative. I'm 4012 03:18:36.760 --> 03:18:41.000 just you know, I'm I'm an alternative kind of guy. 4013 03:18:41.559 --> 03:18:43.680 Uh Nicholas, you had your handle there, sir? What's up? 4014 03:18:44.399 --> 03:18:47.399 I've always had this or wanted to propose this question. 4015 03:18:47.639 --> 03:18:48.559 I guess so. 4016 03:18:50.159 --> 03:18:56.399 Is the Bible essentially is looked at as like the infallible, 4017 03:18:57.000 --> 03:19:00.120 you know, word of God or God inspired word all 4018 03:19:00.120 --> 03:19:04.959 the way across the board, and that was decided obviously 4019 03:19:05.000 --> 03:19:08.840 by people, a person, a group of people or whatever. 4020 03:19:10.319 --> 03:19:13.879 I feel like, I don't know, is there any person 4021 03:19:14.520 --> 03:19:17.879 that you could name today, in this day and age 4022 03:19:17.959 --> 03:19:28.319 that would be qualified to determine what text is the 4023 03:19:28.360 --> 03:19:32.680 Word of God today? Or if like say, somebody wanted 4024 03:19:32.719 --> 03:19:36.159 to add or remove something from the book that people 4025 03:19:36.559 --> 03:19:40.120 put together. Is there someone in this day and age 4026 03:19:40.159 --> 03:19:46.040 that's qualified to determine God's word adding or subtracting or 4027 03:19:46.159 --> 03:19:49.200 just in general, does anyone have that authority now? 4028 03:19:50.840 --> 03:19:54.719 In my humble opinion, just Jacob speaking on behalf of Jacob, 4029 03:19:55.120 --> 03:19:58.799 I don't believe that anybody has the authority to take 4030 03:19:58.840 --> 03:20:01.000 away or add to the world of God currently. 4031 03:20:01.280 --> 03:20:02.639 Now, Okay, so. 4032 03:20:05.680 --> 03:20:10.079 Men had that authority in three hundred and twenty five eighty. 4033 03:20:12.200 --> 03:20:14.959 They were just compiling the words and figuring out what 4034 03:20:15.239 --> 03:20:16.920 was and was not divinely inspired. 4035 03:20:18.120 --> 03:20:22.520 But that's my point, is I guess is men bless 4036 03:20:22.559 --> 03:20:26.959 and blood, men were making the determination of this is 4037 03:20:27.000 --> 03:20:31.639 divinely inspired, this comes from God and this one does not. 4038 03:20:32.479 --> 03:20:36.959 And if if they had that authority now, then then 4039 03:20:37.040 --> 03:20:40.159 they should have it now or vice versa. I feel 4040 03:20:40.159 --> 03:20:42.760 like there's kind of like a disconnect to. 4041 03:20:42.719 --> 03:20:43.959 Where like a double standard. 4042 03:20:44.120 --> 03:20:47.360 Yeah, it's a double standard of like, Okay, what man 4043 03:20:47.879 --> 03:20:52.200 can decide what God? What words on a page came 4044 03:20:52.239 --> 03:20:54.639 from God? What gives them the authority to decide that? 4045 03:20:55.040 --> 03:21:01.639 And how was that agreed upon then? And it's clasphemous now. 4046 03:21:03.079 --> 03:21:05.680 So I'll give you an example of one to where 4047 03:21:05.719 --> 03:21:08.719 you really it's like, who gave them that authority? I 4048 03:21:08.760 --> 03:21:11.959 hear you, one hundred percent to hear you, But I 4049 03:21:12.000 --> 03:21:15.600 would argue that the vast majority of these books say 4050 03:21:15.680 --> 03:21:18.479 things within them that it's clear of why they weren't added. 4051 03:21:18.520 --> 03:21:23.799 I'll give you an example. Okay, it is understood. 4052 03:21:23.600 --> 03:21:27.680 That Jesus was never married, never had kids, never committed 4053 03:21:27.719 --> 03:21:29.799 a sin, never lost it after a woman, he never 4054 03:21:29.840 --> 03:21:31.159 had sex, any of these things. 4055 03:21:31.399 --> 03:21:33.000 Okay, it's an understood truth. 4056 03:21:33.040 --> 03:21:34.520 Now. I know there's gonna be people that disagree with 4057 03:21:34.520 --> 03:21:35.959 that because they watched the DaVinci Code one. 4058 03:21:35.840 --> 03:21:37.799 Two many times. Neither here, no there, neither heard, no there. 4059 03:21:38.479 --> 03:21:39.920 If you had a Gnostic. 4060 03:21:39.600 --> 03:21:43.840 Text or any text that was period dated to that 4061 03:21:43.959 --> 03:21:48.719 timeframe that said that Jesus had a wife, well clearly 4062 03:21:48.799 --> 03:21:51.159 this entire book doesn't need to be added because this 4063 03:21:51.319 --> 03:21:56.040 is incorrect. Or another example, we understand that Jesus was 4064 03:21:56.200 --> 03:21:59.920 crucified on the cross, okay, and then his body was buried, 4065 03:22:00.239 --> 03:22:02.120 and then he rose again from the grave later on. 4066 03:22:02.719 --> 03:22:05.479 If you have a text correctly period dated to the 4067 03:22:05.520 --> 03:22:08.120 time and all the stuff that says that Jesus wasn't 4068 03:22:08.159 --> 03:22:11.920 actually crucified, but the image of Jesus being crucified, it 4069 03:22:11.959 --> 03:22:14.760 was his spirit that was crucified was on the cross, 4070 03:22:14.799 --> 03:22:18.239 not the actual Jesus. Well, that's incorrect, and it's not 4071 03:22:18.280 --> 03:22:20.399 like you need some sort of special authority from God 4072 03:22:20.399 --> 03:22:23.399 to be able to point that out. There's a reason 4073 03:22:23.440 --> 03:22:25.600 why these books were not added, That's what I'm saying. 4074 03:22:25.639 --> 03:22:27.639 And it's not like you absolutely needed some sort of 4075 03:22:27.639 --> 03:22:32.280 a divine blessing to say this is the truth, this 4076 03:22:32.559 --> 03:22:35.479 is not the truth. It was understood that certain things 4077 03:22:35.520 --> 03:22:38.559 were clearly not added, or certain things were not true, 4078 03:22:38.600 --> 03:22:41.159 and certain things were. Now that doesn't mean that there 4079 03:22:41.280 --> 03:22:46.440 wasn't certain truths within these gnostic texts, because it's not 4080 03:22:46.479 --> 03:22:49.760 like they were completely set out to besmirch the name 4081 03:22:49.799 --> 03:22:52.879 of Jesus like at all. Right, these guys claimed that 4082 03:22:52.879 --> 03:22:56.120 they were followers of Jesus, but they were followers of 4083 03:22:56.159 --> 03:22:59.959 a plagiarize and forgery. And that's why these things weren't 4084 03:23:00.079 --> 03:23:01.959 done this way. And it wasn't forgery to the same 4085 03:23:02.000 --> 03:23:04.600 context that we think of today. Back in this day, 4086 03:23:04.639 --> 03:23:08.000 you wouldn't be a forgerer by copying certain words and 4087 03:23:08.040 --> 03:23:11.239 putting your name at the bottom. You would put a 4088 03:23:11.280 --> 03:23:14.040 certain person's name that was there to lead in credence 4089 03:23:14.079 --> 03:23:16.959 to this book, which is why, like the Gospel of Judas, 4090 03:23:17.559 --> 03:23:20.120 whoever wrote that is not going to put the Gospel 4091 03:23:20.159 --> 03:23:23.360 of Judas according to some jude you've never heard of 4092 03:23:23.440 --> 03:23:26.319 before dot dot dot named John Smith. They're going to 4093 03:23:26.360 --> 03:23:30.760 just leave it as the lost Gospel of Mary Magdalen 4094 03:23:30.840 --> 03:23:32.680 and just roll with it that way. That was a 4095 03:23:32.719 --> 03:23:35.920 way to lend credence to it. But again, when you 4096 03:23:35.959 --> 03:23:38.360 look into them and look at them as compared to 4097 03:23:38.479 --> 03:23:40.520 the Gospels, and you look at them as to the 4098 03:23:40.559 --> 03:23:44.239 life of Jesus, there's not really much that could be 4099 03:23:44.280 --> 03:23:45.399 said in favor of them. 4100 03:23:46.079 --> 03:23:49.600 Yeah, I feel that I was just asking that because 4101 03:23:50.120 --> 03:23:53.479 I was if you could read some of the Gnostics 4102 03:23:53.600 --> 03:23:55.559 or you know that kind of those texts side by 4103 03:23:55.600 --> 03:23:58.200 side with scripture from the Bible, and if you know, 4104 03:23:58.639 --> 03:24:00.879 no one told you the difference, you would read it 4105 03:24:00.920 --> 03:24:03.319 and say well this, you know, this vibe is with me. 4106 03:24:04.200 --> 03:24:06.719 And then and then I could say, well, I'd read 4107 03:24:06.719 --> 03:24:08.559 this one from the Bible, and you'd be like, hell, no, 4108 03:24:08.719 --> 03:24:10.120 that's kind of fucked up, right. 4109 03:24:10.200 --> 03:24:11.719 Some of some you know, you know, some. 4110 03:24:11.719 --> 03:24:15.079 Of the stuff that people would use and except one 4111 03:24:15.200 --> 03:24:17.879 is is heretical that you agree with, and one is 4112 03:24:18.319 --> 03:24:23.239 like abhoor it that is in the Bible that's technically 4113 03:24:24.120 --> 03:24:28.559 you know about like you know, no, I know, it's 4114 03:24:28.639 --> 03:24:29.920 one of the bad things, you know what I mean, 4115 03:24:29.959 --> 03:24:30.799 It's like it's. 4116 03:24:31.280 --> 03:24:33.520 Like, yeah, I know what you're What you're trying to 4117 03:24:33.559 --> 03:24:36.959 say is essentially like the and the whole idea behind 4118 03:24:36.959 --> 03:24:40.000 the Gnostics is the Gnostic text is that whenever you 4119 03:24:40.079 --> 03:24:43.280 read it, it rings true to you know, whatever it 4120 03:24:43.440 --> 03:24:45.959 is that connects you to God or the source, whatever 4121 03:24:45.959 --> 03:24:47.959 you want to call it, Like there's something that whenever 4122 03:24:47.959 --> 03:24:51.120 you read it, you're like that actually makes a lot 4123 03:24:51.159 --> 03:24:54.479 of sense on a deeper level. Whereas you know a 4124 03:24:54.479 --> 03:24:57.479 lot of the Bible, would you know, it's kind of 4125 03:24:57.520 --> 03:25:00.520 like you have to be raised with that kind of 4126 03:25:00.600 --> 03:25:03.520 knowledge in order for it to be ringing true. You're 4127 03:25:03.559 --> 03:25:05.639 not just going to stumble across the Bible. Let's say 4128 03:25:05.639 --> 03:25:08.040 you stumble across the Bible at thirty five. I'm thirty five, 4129 03:25:08.079 --> 03:25:09.719 and let's say I never read any part of the 4130 03:25:09.719 --> 03:25:11.639 Bible or anything like that, and if I was to 4131 03:25:11.680 --> 03:25:14.000 read some of that, I'd be like the fuck were 4132 03:25:14.040 --> 03:25:14.879 they on back then? 4133 03:25:15.079 --> 03:25:15.200 You know? 4134 03:25:15.280 --> 03:25:17.680 What I'm saying. But if you look into the Gnostics, 4135 03:25:17.840 --> 03:25:20.239 it's more of like, well, it's you don't even have 4136 03:25:20.280 --> 03:25:21.959 to take it on faith, you don't have to take 4137 03:25:22.000 --> 03:25:24.719 it on belief, Like it's something about it that just 4138 03:25:24.879 --> 03:25:26.680 rhyme's true to you. And that's kind of what he 4139 03:25:26.719 --> 03:25:29.760 was saying. And by the way, the Nagamati scriptures, they 4140 03:25:29.799 --> 03:25:33.319 do not imply that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married. 4141 03:25:33.639 --> 03:25:34.959 It's just that they had. 4142 03:25:34.799 --> 03:25:37.360 A Gospel of Mary Magdalen or whatever. 4143 03:25:37.719 --> 03:25:40.399 Yeah, it's well, the Gospel of Mary Magdalene is in 4144 03:25:40.440 --> 03:25:44.959 the Nagamati. But oh fuck, it's that that they never 4145 03:25:45.200 --> 03:25:48.079 they never, they were never actually married, but that they 4146 03:25:48.159 --> 03:25:52.840 had a u. It says that it does imply strongly 4147 03:25:52.959 --> 03:25:57.120 an intimate and spiritually significant relationship between Jesus and Mary Magdalene, 4148 03:25:57.280 --> 03:25:59.159 but they do not directly say that they were married. 4149 03:26:00.200 --> 03:26:02.639 So everybody knows. So that is from Chatchi people. 4150 03:26:02.680 --> 03:26:05.159 So let me make sure I hear this right. Yeah, 4151 03:26:05.479 --> 03:26:06.719 let me make sure I get this right here. 4152 03:26:07.159 --> 03:26:10.719 So you're saying that the heretical books speak more soundly 4153 03:26:10.799 --> 03:26:13.879 to the human mind than the book that we should 4154 03:26:13.879 --> 03:26:18.040 be trying to conform ourselves too. Yeah, that makes sense 4155 03:26:18.120 --> 03:26:22.200 to me out loud. One book is divinely inspired and 4156 03:26:22.239 --> 03:26:24.799 we should be doing everything we can to conform ourselves 4157 03:26:24.840 --> 03:26:27.360 to what it sells us to do. The other one 4158 03:26:27.399 --> 03:26:30.040 is not divinely inspired, and you're saying that it sings 4159 03:26:30.120 --> 03:26:33.239 more to the human easet those like when you need it. 4160 03:26:33.319 --> 03:26:36.159 That checks out when you read it. It doesn't take 4161 03:26:36.239 --> 03:26:39.079 a rocket scientist to piece one and two together. That's 4162 03:26:39.079 --> 03:26:41.479 what I'm trying to say. With the Bible, you have 4163 03:26:41.520 --> 03:26:43.200 to know the history of this, you have to connect 4164 03:26:43.200 --> 03:26:44.840 it to the history of that. It's a bunch of 4165 03:26:44.879 --> 03:26:48.680 fucking you know, depends on a corkboard kind of situation 4166 03:26:48.799 --> 03:26:51.959 in order to try and understand it from every single 4167 03:26:52.000 --> 03:26:54.559 possible angle. That's what I'm trying to say. It's like 4168 03:26:54.680 --> 03:26:56.959 the idea and think about it like this. You know, 4169 03:26:57.000 --> 03:27:00.840 we just read it from earlier that from Paul and 4170 03:27:00.959 --> 03:27:04.200 even from Jesus himself that Christ is within you, right. 4171 03:27:04.360 --> 03:27:07.079 And if Christ is within you, of course a lot 4172 03:27:07.120 --> 03:27:11.159 of this information would ring true because it's literally Christ 4173 03:27:11.200 --> 03:27:13.360 within you, right, And that's kind of the point that 4174 03:27:13.920 --> 03:27:16.680 I'm trying to make. And so either Christ is within 4175 03:27:16.719 --> 03:27:20.200 you or he isn't. But if he is, then for 4176 03:27:20.239 --> 03:27:25.200 some reason, this out of order kind of weird meanings 4177 03:27:25.680 --> 03:27:27.559 are supposed to make more sense. I don't know. 4178 03:27:27.760 --> 03:27:31.920 That's kind of the point behind the agnostic. I think 4179 03:27:31.959 --> 03:27:35.000 you have to ask Christ to live within you. I 4180 03:27:35.000 --> 03:27:37.639 don't think that that's just inherently within you. Now, when 4181 03:27:37.680 --> 03:27:39.319 it talks about in the chapter of Luke where it 4182 03:27:39.319 --> 03:27:42.639 says the spirit or the breath of God is within 4183 03:27:42.799 --> 03:27:46.360 all man, that would be another synonym for possibly like 4184 03:27:46.479 --> 03:27:49.319 your soul, there is a soul within all man, which 4185 03:27:49.360 --> 03:27:52.159 is the breath of God, the spirit of God. But 4186 03:27:52.200 --> 03:27:54.239 that doesn't mean if you go internal hard enough that 4187 03:27:54.280 --> 03:28:00.360 you'll get divine enlightenment from God himself. That's a different conversation. Yes, yeah, 4188 03:28:00.360 --> 03:28:01.479 I know me and you disagree on that. 4189 03:28:01.559 --> 03:28:03.559 It's just a different way of interpreting it, that's all. 4190 03:28:03.920 --> 03:28:05.760 And that's when I don't know. 4191 03:28:05.920 --> 03:28:06.639 I I. 4192 03:28:08.319 --> 03:28:10.040 There's there's like a lot of them, like you know, 4193 03:28:10.079 --> 03:28:14.159 we've talked about, like even Luke Luke chapter seventeen, the 4194 03:28:14.239 --> 03:28:17.000 Kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed. 4195 03:28:17.239 --> 03:28:20.680 For behold, the Kingdom of God is within you. Jesus 4196 03:28:20.719 --> 03:28:24.200 said that, yes, the Kingdom of God. 4197 03:28:24.040 --> 03:28:26.920 And in other translations it's the spirit of God, and 4198 03:28:26.959 --> 03:28:29.840 in the correct original translation, it's the breath of God. 4199 03:28:29.840 --> 03:28:31.680 It's literally what I was just talking about. 4200 03:28:32.239 --> 03:28:36.600 Uh right, r right, breath God, right right. 4201 03:28:36.959 --> 03:28:39.159 You know that's why I say bless you is because 4202 03:28:39.360 --> 03:28:43.879 the uh when you sneeze, it's an involuntary loss of breath, 4203 03:28:43.959 --> 03:28:48.159 which is the thing that animates you. So they're covering 4204 03:28:48.239 --> 03:28:50.879 your back whenever breath comes out. 4205 03:28:51.399 --> 03:28:52.920 I didn't know that that's where it came from. 4206 03:28:52.920 --> 03:28:56.680 That dope. Yeah, dirty Dan, dirty sand Yes, excuse me, 4207 03:28:56.680 --> 03:28:58.399 your hand is raised, Sam, I see your hand raised 4208 03:28:58.399 --> 03:28:59.559 to I'm gonna get to your next brother. 4209 03:29:00.000 --> 03:29:03.360 One more quote before you get going, Jesus is quote 4210 03:29:03.399 --> 03:29:06.000 you have what I have. You just haven't realized it yet. 4211 03:29:07.639 --> 03:29:09.159 Yeah. He said, you'll be able to do all that 4212 03:29:09.200 --> 03:29:11.159 I can do and more. And his disciples and his 4213 03:29:11.200 --> 03:29:13.959 apostles after his death went and laid hands on people 4214 03:29:13.959 --> 03:29:16.440 and healed the sick and like all the same stuff. 4215 03:29:16.840 --> 03:29:19.159 For sure, he was again, who was he speaking to? 4216 03:29:20.040 --> 03:29:22.079 Was he speaking to the entirety of the world or 4217 03:29:22.120 --> 03:29:24.520 was he speaking to his apostles at that time and place, 4218 03:29:24.920 --> 03:29:27.000 we got to look at time place, audience, do you 4219 03:29:27.120 --> 03:29:31.360 this is the context that makes the difference. I mean, I. 4220 03:29:31.319 --> 03:29:35.559 Don't know anyway, Dirty Sanchez, sorry about that. Go ahead, dear, Yeah. 4221 03:29:35.440 --> 03:29:36.000 No worries. 4222 03:29:36.920 --> 03:29:39.440 One of the things I struggle with in the Bible. 4223 03:29:39.719 --> 03:29:42.360 And I do believe that Jesus is my savior, but 4224 03:29:42.639 --> 03:29:45.239 I often go back and forth about like who they 4225 03:29:45.280 --> 03:29:50.000 say the Antichrist is going to be or just his characteristics. 4226 03:29:50.159 --> 03:29:52.120 And I looked it up just a second ago, so 4227 03:29:52.159 --> 03:29:55.920 I could actually have But in Daniel eleven it talks 4228 03:29:55.959 --> 03:30:00.600 about how he will have no desire for women or 4229 03:30:00.840 --> 03:30:05.239 gods or anything like that because he will see hisself 4230 03:30:05.280 --> 03:30:10.120 above those. And in our Bible it says that he 4231 03:30:10.159 --> 03:30:12.840 was not married, did not have girl I don't know 4232 03:30:12.840 --> 03:30:15.239 ab our girlfriends, but didn't have children and all that stuff. 4233 03:30:15.319 --> 03:30:18.000 I wonder, like are they alluding to That's where I 4234 03:30:18.040 --> 03:30:22.520 go back and forth, Like you know, in the Oh God, 4235 03:30:22.559 --> 03:30:25.799 what were you saying, Mary Magdalene or whatever? 4236 03:30:26.120 --> 03:30:26.239 Like? 4237 03:30:26.280 --> 03:30:29.520 Do you think possibly they kept those out so it 4238 03:30:29.639 --> 03:30:35.040 could bury some type of ideal in us that maybe 4239 03:30:35.319 --> 03:30:39.120 our Bible is wrong, that you know, they're they're saying 4240 03:30:39.200 --> 03:30:42.920 the Antichrist won't have any women, and then they hid 4241 03:30:42.959 --> 03:30:46.319 those scriptures to where he possibly did have Mary Magdalen. 4242 03:30:47.159 --> 03:30:48.239 Well, that's the Ascenes. 4243 03:30:48.399 --> 03:30:49.079 I don't believe. 4244 03:30:50.000 --> 03:30:52.200 Well, I don't believe that they hid the Gnostic texts. 4245 03:30:52.319 --> 03:30:55.479 They've been around, they just didn't add them to the Bible. 4246 03:30:55.559 --> 03:30:57.399 And that's why when they were the lost Gospel of 4247 03:30:57.440 --> 03:30:59.879 whatever and they were rediscovered in nineteen forty five and 4248 03:31:00.120 --> 03:31:02.319 up the Dead Sea Scrolls had Gnostic text within them 4249 03:31:02.360 --> 03:31:02.760 as well. 4250 03:31:03.280 --> 03:31:04.360 It's not that they were lost. 4251 03:31:05.079 --> 03:31:06.879 They knew about them and they were written about in 4252 03:31:06.920 --> 03:31:08.799 the three hundreds and four hundreds AD. 4253 03:31:09.120 --> 03:31:11.000 Oh, they absolutely taught them anymore. 4254 03:31:11.000 --> 03:31:13.079 They were absolutely lost throughout time. That's why it was 4255 03:31:13.120 --> 03:31:15.200 such a crazy discovery in nineteen forty five. 4256 03:31:16.959 --> 03:31:18.799 No, but then whenever you look at them and it's like, 4257 03:31:18.920 --> 03:31:20.799 no one's ever seen this before. It's the truth, and 4258 03:31:20.840 --> 03:31:22.760 it's like no, no, no, read the council that I 4259 03:31:22.799 --> 03:31:23.079 see it. 4260 03:31:23.159 --> 03:31:26.079 They knew what this was. We have known what this was. 4261 03:31:26.200 --> 03:31:29.079 So sixteen hundred years there's a gap in there. 4262 03:31:29.280 --> 03:31:32.680 Yeah, because no one taught them anymore because they understood 4263 03:31:32.680 --> 03:31:35.520 that they were heretical, and the Gnostics didn't continue their 4264 03:31:35.559 --> 03:31:36.920 Gnostic teachings in that way. 4265 03:31:36.959 --> 03:31:39.600 But back to the whole they couldn't teach them, as 4266 03:31:39.680 --> 03:31:42.120 they couldn't teach them they were being fucking hunted and slaughtered. 4267 03:31:43.639 --> 03:31:46.479 Thus why it was profound discovery in nineteen forty five. 4268 03:31:48.120 --> 03:31:50.280 But they acted like those had never been seen by 4269 03:31:50.319 --> 03:31:52.159 human eyes before, and it was the truth of the Bible. 4270 03:31:52.159 --> 03:31:54.239 And it's like, no, they weren't they weren't lost. They 4271 03:31:54.280 --> 03:31:57.200 were purposely not taught. I would say, you know, there's 4272 03:31:57.200 --> 03:31:57.680 a reason. 4273 03:31:58.399 --> 03:32:00.399 Yeah, that's what I would say if if something is, 4274 03:32:00.600 --> 03:32:02.840 if something has gone for sixteen hundred years, I would 4275 03:32:02.879 --> 03:32:06.360 say that you fucking lost something and then you discovered. 4276 03:32:05.920 --> 03:32:10.559 It, right, I suppose. 4277 03:32:10.719 --> 03:32:13.399 But again it's they had copies of them about, like 4278 03:32:13.479 --> 03:32:16.479 there's people that were quoting them during the Renaissance, and 4279 03:32:16.520 --> 03:32:18.879 there were more nastic texts that came about in the Renaissance. 4280 03:32:19.280 --> 03:32:20.040 So it's not. 4281 03:32:21.920 --> 03:32:24.879 Necessarily what you're thinking of as far as like, well, 4282 03:32:24.879 --> 03:32:28.600 they hid this to hide truth. They didn't teach them anymore, 4283 03:32:28.639 --> 03:32:30.680 and they went by the wayside, the same way that 4284 03:32:31.600 --> 03:32:34.959 Jim Jones's teachings went by the wayside. It's not like 4285 03:32:34.959 --> 03:32:37.200 they're being hidden from the public. You can go find 4286 03:32:37.200 --> 03:32:39.879 what he was talking about. Nobody listens to it anymore. 4287 03:32:39.879 --> 03:32:43.079 Because it's understood to be false. So it neither here 4288 03:32:43.120 --> 03:32:45.799 nor there as far as the conversation for the anti 4289 03:32:45.840 --> 03:32:51.879 crisis concerned. Look, we're not supposed to be necessarily trying 4290 03:32:51.920 --> 03:32:54.159 to figure out who it is. We are supposed to 4291 03:32:54.200 --> 03:32:56.879 be watchmen on the wall for the end times. Okay, 4292 03:32:56.920 --> 03:32:59.879 We're not supposed to be counting down the days by 4293 03:32:59.879 --> 03:33:02.159 no means, but we are supposed to be aware of 4294 03:33:02.239 --> 03:33:04.440 the big significant events when they take place. 4295 03:33:04.600 --> 03:33:05.920 That's that's what we're supposed to do. 4296 03:33:06.200 --> 03:33:10.920 So that's drawing from that is like how the Jewish 4297 03:33:10.920 --> 03:33:14.799 people say our Christ was the Antichrist for them, Like, 4298 03:33:14.879 --> 03:33:18.399 what's that is? That is where I'm like, oh WHOA, 4299 03:33:18.559 --> 03:33:20.520 Like I'm not Jewish, but I'm like, what if they're 4300 03:33:20.520 --> 03:33:22.719 onto something? But like I said, in my heart, I know, 4301 03:33:23.440 --> 03:33:25.239 but it's weird how they painted. 4302 03:33:27.120 --> 03:33:30.000 I disagree with it, but I understand why they would 4303 03:33:30.000 --> 03:33:32.760 believe that he was basically breaking the mold on the 4304 03:33:32.920 --> 03:33:36.280 entirety of their laws and traditions that make them Jewish. 4305 03:33:36.360 --> 03:33:38.680 He literally said there is no more jew and gentile. 4306 03:33:38.799 --> 03:33:42.120 It's only God's people and not God's people, And that 4307 03:33:42.159 --> 03:33:45.840 took away everything that made Judaism Judaism. So it makes 4308 03:33:45.840 --> 03:33:48.239 sense why the sand Hadrian wanted to kill him. There's 4309 03:33:48.280 --> 03:33:49.959 a reason why they wanted to stone him. There's a 4310 03:33:50.000 --> 03:33:52.520 reason why they made sure he was crucified. Like it 4311 03:33:52.600 --> 03:33:55.639 makes sense why they would see him as their Antichrist, 4312 03:33:55.959 --> 03:33:59.040 and why they believe that he's, you know, boiling in 4313 03:33:59.079 --> 03:34:01.399 a vat of his own neck Gramentin Hell or Shule 4314 03:34:01.479 --> 03:34:03.719 or whatever the fuck, Like, it makes sense why they 4315 03:34:03.760 --> 03:34:07.680 would go that route. But again, all evidence to the contrary, 4316 03:34:07.719 --> 03:34:10.959 and me and multiple Jewish people that I know, not 4317 03:34:11.079 --> 03:34:14.120 just are resident Jewish correspondent, multiple Jewish people and I 4318 03:34:14.120 --> 03:34:17.559 have had these conversations about the prophecies that he fulfilled 4319 03:34:17.760 --> 03:34:21.200 and how they don't believe that those prophecies were fulfilled 4320 03:34:21.200 --> 03:34:24.159 by him, How they believe that the Temple doesn't need 4321 03:34:24.200 --> 03:34:26.040 to be rebuilt a third time, they believe that the 4322 03:34:26.120 --> 03:34:28.760 second building was the time when it mattered and all. 4323 03:34:28.760 --> 03:34:34.559 It's it's like translatory issues, and it's people that are 4324 03:34:34.600 --> 03:34:37.120 looking more towards the human understanding of the words rather 4325 03:34:37.120 --> 03:34:39.639 than the words themselves. And I know that's gonna sound 4326 03:34:39.959 --> 03:34:41.559 like I'm speaking out of both sides of my mouth 4327 03:34:41.559 --> 03:34:43.239 as we're talking about all the things of the Council, 4328 03:34:43.239 --> 03:34:45.440 and I see, I get it. I get it, but 4329 03:34:46.040 --> 03:34:48.520 I get it. I get why they don't believe in Jesus. 4330 03:34:48.639 --> 03:34:51.319 But there's also a reason why the messianic judaism is 4331 03:34:51.399 --> 03:34:54.280 growing to the levels that it is, especially these days. 4332 03:34:55.000 --> 03:34:57.719 There's truth that can't be ignored, and then there's truth 4333 03:34:57.760 --> 03:35:00.520 that you can try to turn away from. Kind of 4334 03:35:00.520 --> 03:35:02.959 where I find these people to be. But that's also 4335 03:35:02.959 --> 03:35:06.200 why I don't put much weight into anything when anyone 4336 03:35:06.319 --> 03:35:09.120 says that somebody's the Antichrist. I, for one, thought that 4337 03:35:09.159 --> 03:35:11.760 Obama could be. There was a couple of checks that 4338 03:35:11.799 --> 03:35:16.040 lined out for me. But I'm sorry, Murcrone's probably not 4339 03:35:16.159 --> 03:35:18.840 the guy. Trump's probably not the guy not in Y'aho's 4340 03:35:18.840 --> 03:35:22.559 not the guy Obama. The bushes like it's I don't 4341 03:35:22.559 --> 03:35:24.920 believe that any of us know this guy's name right now. 4342 03:35:25.559 --> 03:35:27.639 And I could be wrong, could be very wrong. It 4343 03:35:27.719 --> 03:35:29.520 might be Elon fucking might be. 4344 03:35:29.639 --> 03:35:31.159 I mean, the end is does the end has been 4345 03:35:31.200 --> 03:35:33.520 nigh for over two thousand years. What's another two thousand 4346 03:35:33.639 --> 03:35:35.760 Who's to say that the anti crisis around right now? 4347 03:35:37.239 --> 03:35:39.319 Well, we had to wait for the nation of Israel 4348 03:35:39.360 --> 03:35:41.719 to be refounded okay, And we had to wait for 4349 03:35:41.760 --> 03:35:44.799 the first generation of the of the newly formed nation 4350 03:35:44.879 --> 03:35:47.760 of Israel to die, and it's getting close to that timeframe. 4351 03:35:48.200 --> 03:35:49.959 We had to wait for the temple to be rebuilt. 4352 03:35:50.040 --> 03:35:52.680 There's a couple of key signs that will tell you like, 4353 03:35:52.719 --> 03:35:55.360 oh no, no, it's timetime, Like shit's getting real now. 4354 03:35:55.879 --> 03:36:00.319 And these were prophesied about two thousand years ago. So 4355 03:36:00.360 --> 03:36:02.239 people have been waiting for these things, and they keep 4356 03:36:02.280 --> 03:36:05.520 thinking that the temple being rebuilt was a metaphorical thing, right, 4357 03:36:05.559 --> 03:36:08.680 they're talking about the Temple within us. They're talking about 4358 03:36:08.879 --> 03:36:12.120 Judaism as a whole. They're talking about the Spartics, not 4359 03:36:12.159 --> 03:36:14.719 the Ashkenazi. They're talking about like no, no, no, no, no, 4360 03:36:14.719 --> 03:36:17.639 big big dog. They're talking real life. And Israel's a 4361 03:36:17.719 --> 03:36:19.559 nation for the first time in two thousand years. That 4362 03:36:19.719 --> 03:36:22.600 just happened in nineteen forty eight. Like it's these kinds 4363 03:36:22.639 --> 03:36:24.639 of things that make more sense. But at the same time, 4364 03:36:25.000 --> 03:36:27.120 who's to say that this is even the go round 4365 03:36:27.120 --> 03:36:30.200 that we're worried about. Who's to say that Israel won't 4366 03:36:30.200 --> 03:36:31.840 get into some war where they get wiped off the 4367 03:36:31.840 --> 03:36:34.360 face of the earth, and in another thousand years they 4368 03:36:34.399 --> 03:36:37.000 reform as the nation of Israel. And that's the fucking 4369 03:36:37.040 --> 03:36:38.680 timeframe that was prophesized about. 4370 03:36:38.719 --> 03:36:41.920 Like who's to say, we're just supposed to be watchmen. 4371 03:36:41.680 --> 03:36:42.159 On the wall. 4372 03:36:42.319 --> 03:36:48.559 And even what Israel is is debated fair point, like 4373 03:36:48.680 --> 03:36:50.959 you know what I mean, Yeah, we're talking about who 4374 03:36:50.959 --> 03:36:54.440 are the original Israeli people? You know, you know, because 4375 03:36:54.440 --> 03:36:57.239 you check the blood, it's not necessarily them. They're over 4376 03:36:57.239 --> 03:36:59.799 somewhere in Europe or something like that, right, And then 4377 03:37:00.040 --> 03:37:02.120 some people will look at Israel and break it down 4378 03:37:02.159 --> 03:37:09.959 into three syllables is Ra, l isis Ra and who's 4379 03:37:10.000 --> 03:37:11.360 the l eloheim I don't know. 4380 03:37:11.479 --> 03:37:13.360 I mean, the name of Israel is in the Bible. 4381 03:37:13.559 --> 03:37:16.520 Jacob had his name changed to Israel. That's a that's 4382 03:37:16.520 --> 03:37:19.159 a that's an Old Testament thing, that's a Torah thing. 4383 03:37:19.639 --> 03:37:20.680 I thought, that's not. 4384 03:37:20.639 --> 03:37:21.360 A new word. 4385 03:37:21.479 --> 03:37:26.079 Original singular god, hell a singular god. So, but Palestine 4386 03:37:26.120 --> 03:37:27.840 I thought was the original. And then they then they 4387 03:37:27.920 --> 03:37:28.760 changed it to Israel. 4388 03:37:28.879 --> 03:37:31.719 No, no, they were Israel. 4389 03:37:31.760 --> 03:37:33.920 And then the Roman conqueror said that they wanted to 4390 03:37:33.959 --> 03:37:37.559 erase that name and they named it Palestine. No, but Israel, 4391 03:37:37.799 --> 03:37:42.760 Israel itself was So there was Jacob, the guy himself 4392 03:37:42.879 --> 03:37:46.239 right the whole Uh screwed his brother out of his 4393 03:37:46.280 --> 03:37:48.799 birthright and all of that. He later had his name 4394 03:37:48.879 --> 03:37:51.600 changed to Israel, and he founded the nation that we're 4395 03:37:51.600 --> 03:37:52.600 talking about right now. 4396 03:37:52.719 --> 03:37:53.760 That's Old Testament, dude. 4397 03:37:53.799 --> 03:37:54.959 What does it mean Israel? 4398 03:37:55.079 --> 03:38:01.959 The name, it's like walks with God or something right. 4399 03:38:00.319 --> 03:38:04.440 With God, wrestles with God, yes, which Jacob had that 4400 03:38:04.520 --> 03:38:07.719 instance where he allegedly, if we are to believe it 4401 03:38:07.760 --> 03:38:10.319 was a true story, not a metaphorical story, he apparently 4402 03:38:11.159 --> 03:38:14.479 wrestled with God and won. But then there's others to 4403 03:38:14.479 --> 03:38:16.319 say that that was a name, so not actual God. 4404 03:38:16.360 --> 03:38:18.120 There's something to say that it was God. There's something 4405 03:38:18.159 --> 03:38:19.479 to say that was a dream, something to say it 4406 03:38:19.520 --> 03:38:21.399 was a metaphor, Like I'm not the guy to have 4407 03:38:21.479 --> 03:38:25.479 a conversation on this evening, but probably a named Jonathan 4408 03:38:26.040 --> 03:38:27.879 and I could see it. 4409 03:38:28.000 --> 03:38:29.719 By the way, I do want to, I do want to. 4410 03:38:29.760 --> 03:38:32.959 Just uh no, I'm a. 4411 03:38:34.799 --> 03:38:36.799 Oh, yeah, I did pro wrestling. 4412 03:38:37.040 --> 03:38:40.719 Yeah well no, not bro, that's that's pro wrestling, big hoss. Okay, 4413 03:38:41.079 --> 03:38:44.399 let's get it real. But yeah I did. That's kind 4414 03:38:44.399 --> 03:38:47.840 of funny. I forgot about that. But uh, was I 4415 03:38:47.879 --> 03:38:50.719 gonna say about Israel. There was something else that I 4416 03:38:50.760 --> 03:38:54.719 wanted to say. Damn it, I totally just like it. 4417 03:38:54.760 --> 03:38:57.319 Like they were Hebrews, but then they were israel Lights 4418 03:38:57.680 --> 03:38:59.840 and that's that's Old Testament ship. 4419 03:39:00.840 --> 03:39:03.920 Right right anyway, Look, I actually, oh that's what I 4420 03:39:03.920 --> 03:39:06.120 was gonna say. So as far as the Gnostics, I'm 4421 03:39:06.120 --> 03:39:09.799 not even somebody that's like absolutely believes all of the 4422 03:39:09.920 --> 03:39:13.680 rhetoric in there, Like I think that it's I look 4423 03:39:13.719 --> 03:39:15.399 at it for what they claim that it is, which 4424 03:39:15.440 --> 03:39:17.680 is a bunch of Jesus sayings. I can get down 4425 03:39:17.840 --> 03:39:21.879 with the Divine Sage himself or the Rabbi or whatever 4426 03:39:21.920 --> 03:39:24.600 you want to call him, just a guy that had 4427 03:39:24.680 --> 03:39:28.399 a bunch of amazing teachings. If we're looking at the Nagamadi, 4428 03:39:28.479 --> 03:39:30.680 that's how you would look at it. I can get 4429 03:39:30.719 --> 03:39:34.840 down with that. But then the Nagamadi and the Naostic 4430 03:39:34.879 --> 03:39:37.280 Gospels they also talk about the Demiurge, which is like 4431 03:39:37.319 --> 03:39:40.639 the fake God, you know, the false God, which is 4432 03:39:40.680 --> 03:39:43.559 the Demiurge, and it's going to deceive the entire world 4433 03:39:43.600 --> 03:39:45.159 and all that kind of stuff. I don't get down 4434 03:39:45.200 --> 03:39:46.920 with that. I don't believe in no fucking Demiurge. 4435 03:39:47.040 --> 03:39:49.200 Mean, correct me if I'm wrong here. 4436 03:39:49.200 --> 03:39:51.760 But the Gnostics also preach it, like, hey, y'all, I 4437 03:39:51.840 --> 03:39:54.159 know that everybody said that God was the good guy, 4438 03:39:54.280 --> 03:39:56.120 right and the snake was the bad guy, but like 4439 03:39:56.840 --> 03:39:59.000 what if it wasn't though, Yeah, it's something like that. 4440 03:39:59.000 --> 03:40:01.360 That was like the overarching theme behind the Gnostic conversation. 4441 03:40:01.559 --> 03:40:04.280 That is why the Gnostic texts were heretical. Well, and 4442 03:40:04.319 --> 03:40:05.920 that's the idea that. 4443 03:40:08.079 --> 03:40:12.680 Essentially God of the Old Testament was the demiurge, and 4444 03:40:13.040 --> 03:40:16.600 that if you notice that there is a bit of 4445 03:40:16.639 --> 03:40:19.319 a changing of the heart from the Old Testament God 4446 03:40:19.360 --> 03:40:22.000 to the New Testament God, which I understand why they're 4447 03:40:22.000 --> 03:40:25.840 trying to say that, but I don't know. I don't 4448 03:40:25.879 --> 03:40:26.360 believe in a. 4449 03:40:26.360 --> 03:40:27.559 False reason for that. 4450 03:40:29.040 --> 03:40:31.559 Yeah, because we are in the age of grace now 4451 03:40:32.239 --> 03:40:34.639 that we no longer have to perform animal sacrifices for 4452 03:40:34.639 --> 03:40:37.040 every time we sin, because that was Jesus, He was 4453 03:40:37.079 --> 03:40:40.239 that sacrifice. So now God went from our judge to 4454 03:40:40.319 --> 03:40:42.879 being our father as a whole. There's a reason for 4455 03:40:42.920 --> 03:40:44.479 all this and why it played out in the manner 4456 03:40:44.479 --> 03:40:45.639 in the time frame in which it did. 4457 03:40:45.680 --> 03:40:47.520 And I know people disagree with that. I know people 4458 03:40:47.520 --> 03:40:48.600 take issue with that, and that's. 4459 03:40:48.479 --> 03:40:52.040 Fine, but it checks out as to the word and 4460 03:40:52.120 --> 03:40:53.959 what we are supposed to take it as. 4461 03:40:54.200 --> 03:40:58.280 Okay, But you don't see within the New Testament God 4462 03:40:58.399 --> 03:41:00.840 telling some dude to bring his up to the top 4463 03:41:00.879 --> 03:41:03.120 of a mountain and throw them off. In the New Testament, 4464 03:41:03.159 --> 03:41:04.719 that's that's Old Testament. 4465 03:41:04.319 --> 03:41:08.680 God, right, same God. But there's a And again, look 4466 03:41:08.719 --> 03:41:10.399 at the context behind. 4467 03:41:10.079 --> 03:41:12.000 That change in the tone, though, is what I'm trying 4468 03:41:12.000 --> 03:41:17.000 to say, like very rigid, very kind of controlling, very 4469 03:41:18.040 --> 03:41:21.120 fucking obey, and I'm gonna push you to your limit 4470 03:41:21.159 --> 03:41:24.719 to see how much you actually will obey. And whenever 4471 03:41:24.760 --> 03:41:27.360 you're right at the precipice of showing me how much 4472 03:41:27.399 --> 03:41:30.559 you obey, I was just fucking with you, Famia. You 4473 03:41:30.559 --> 03:41:32.000 gotta chuck your kid off this mountain. 4474 03:41:33.799 --> 03:41:37.040 Well, that's the point right back then he was in Again, 4475 03:41:37.040 --> 03:41:39.479 look at the context of that story. It wasn't just 4476 03:41:39.559 --> 03:41:41.479 a test of faith, although that's what it was, yes, 4477 03:41:41.959 --> 03:41:43.959 but he was also seeing would he be willing to 4478 03:41:44.040 --> 03:41:46.840 do what all of the other people were doing, because 4479 03:41:47.200 --> 03:41:51.239 around the area in question, the others were sacrificing their 4480 03:41:51.280 --> 03:41:55.000 firstborn sons to their God. So he's saying these people 4481 03:41:55.040 --> 03:41:58.120 are willing to follow their gods to this level? Are 4482 03:41:58.159 --> 03:41:59.680 you willing to follow me to this level? 4483 03:41:59.680 --> 03:42:01.280 So it was out of jealousy, is what you're saying. 4484 03:42:01.719 --> 03:42:03.799 He did it because he knows well all these other 4485 03:42:03.799 --> 03:42:06.239 people they love their God and they're willing to sacrifice 4486 03:42:06.239 --> 03:42:08.360 for their God. What will you do for me? That 4487 03:42:08.399 --> 03:42:12.120 sounds like a jealous thing, doesn't it? And he does, 4488 03:42:12.159 --> 03:42:13.120 and he is a jealous God. 4489 03:42:13.440 --> 03:42:14.680 He does say jealous God. 4490 03:42:14.719 --> 03:42:17.680 But that wasn't you know, that's his words, his words 4491 03:42:17.719 --> 03:42:20.319 for sure, But that wasn't a jealousy thing. That was 4492 03:42:20.360 --> 03:42:22.319 a test of faith. He's saying, do you have as 4493 03:42:22.399 --> 03:42:24.959 much faith for a true God as your neighbors do 4494 03:42:25.079 --> 03:42:28.600 for a fake God? If you can't even attempt to 4495 03:42:28.639 --> 03:42:30.959 do what they're willing to do to a statue that 4496 03:42:31.000 --> 03:42:33.680 will never talk back to them, then what are we 4497 03:42:33.719 --> 03:42:34.719 even talking about here? 4498 03:42:34.799 --> 03:42:37.200 Yeah, it was a test of faith. Let's again it wasn't. 4499 03:42:37.360 --> 03:42:38.600 He wasn't. 4500 03:42:38.799 --> 03:42:41.239 Let's change up the situation here. You have you have 4501 03:42:41.520 --> 03:42:44.840 a couple of kids. Right, Let's say you're one kid. 4502 03:42:44.879 --> 03:42:46.879 You take your one kid to toys R russ right, 4503 03:42:47.200 --> 03:42:49.079 And let's say towards arrest is still around, which I 4504 03:42:49.479 --> 03:42:51.959 wish it was. But let's say towards arrest is still around, 4505 03:42:51.959 --> 03:42:54.079 you go and take him to get the most gangster 4506 03:42:54.239 --> 03:42:57.360 fucking toy that you can imagine, right, And your daughter 4507 03:42:57.399 --> 03:42:59.520 is still at home and you didn't bring her for 4508 03:42:59.559 --> 03:43:01.360 whatever reason, and maybe she had some kind of sports 4509 03:43:01.360 --> 03:43:03.319 practice she wasn't able to go to toys r russ, Right, 4510 03:43:03.520 --> 03:43:06.280 And your son comes back home with the fucking toy 4511 03:43:06.360 --> 03:43:10.280 of all toys, right, and he's gloating and he's like, Yo, 4512 03:43:10.440 --> 03:43:13.159 look look at I got Look at dad got me, right, 4513 03:43:13.200 --> 03:43:15.559 And then your daughters all, well, what the fuck man, 4514 03:43:15.719 --> 03:43:17.879 you didn't get me anything. Why don't you do something 4515 03:43:17.920 --> 03:43:19.680 for me to show me how much you love me? 4516 03:43:19.799 --> 03:43:23.159 Because you clearly just showed a preference right there, At 4517 03:43:23.239 --> 03:43:26.440 least on the surface, it looks like you prefer that, right, 4518 03:43:26.520 --> 03:43:27.600 And so is it. 4519 03:43:27.559 --> 03:43:29.159 Not kind of a what to what kind of story? 4520 03:43:29.479 --> 03:43:30.840 That would you would look. 4521 03:43:30.680 --> 03:43:33.639 At that out of that would be a jealous thing, right, 4522 03:43:33.760 --> 03:43:36.159 not saying that it's wrong. You would you would actually 4523 03:43:36.239 --> 03:43:38.399 argue that it's actually right. If you're trying to show 4524 03:43:38.760 --> 03:43:41.479 that you know that you treat your kids equally. But 4525 03:43:41.920 --> 03:43:44.719 if your daughter is like, well, why didn't you do 4526 03:43:44.799 --> 03:43:47.639 for me like you did for him. That would, on 4527 03:43:47.680 --> 03:43:50.239 the surface, would be a jealousy kind of stunt, wouldn't it. 4528 03:43:50.680 --> 03:43:53.959 I don't think this is a apples to apples comparison, though, 4529 03:43:54.520 --> 03:43:58.639 how would you differ? Like how how is getting your 4530 03:43:58.719 --> 03:44:03.120 kid a toy the same as God the judge? Now 4531 03:44:03.159 --> 03:44:06.680 God the father, God the judge telling you that if 4532 03:44:06.719 --> 03:44:10.000 you can't even do the slightest bit of devotion that 4533 03:44:10.120 --> 03:44:12.559 everyone else is willing to do to their gods, then 4534 03:44:12.760 --> 03:44:13.200 we have. 4535 03:44:13.120 --> 03:44:14.879 A faith issue. 4536 03:44:15.079 --> 03:44:17.120 That's not the same as showing my child love by 4537 03:44:17.200 --> 03:44:19.920 buying them a toy. 4538 03:44:20.239 --> 03:44:22.280 I feel like I missed it on you. Literally, that 4539 03:44:22.319 --> 03:44:23.040 may not have been the best thing. 4540 03:44:23.079 --> 03:44:27.239 You literally can't comprehend the story what I was trying 4541 03:44:27.280 --> 03:44:30.520 to suggest here. You have no idea where the comparison 4542 03:44:30.600 --> 03:44:32.600 lies in at all, that's what you're saying. 4543 03:44:32.760 --> 03:44:34.440 I think I think I might have just missed it, bro, 4544 03:44:34.920 --> 03:44:36.040 I don't know. Maybe that's on me. 4545 03:44:38.120 --> 03:44:43.719 That story is an issue of works though actually not faith, right, 4546 03:44:44.120 --> 03:44:50.719 because faith alone did not satisfy God. It was the 4547 03:44:50.760 --> 03:44:53.239 actual going to do the action of what he was 4548 03:44:53.280 --> 03:44:54.040 asking him to do. 4549 03:44:55.440 --> 03:44:58.000 That's fair, that's fair, And I mean, yeah, you could 4550 03:44:58.000 --> 03:45:00.600 believe all day, but when you put that faith in practice, 4551 03:45:00.840 --> 03:45:02.680 I mean, how far are you actually willing to go 4552 03:45:02.799 --> 03:45:05.680 with that faith? But then later on again Old Testament 4553 03:45:05.760 --> 03:45:08.479 versus New Testament, it says that our works are as 4554 03:45:08.600 --> 03:45:10.120 unclean rags, they'll be burned up. 4555 03:45:10.600 --> 03:45:11.879 Works without faith is dead. 4556 03:45:12.479 --> 03:45:15.040 But it's true though, right there's times with people that 4557 03:45:15.159 --> 03:45:18.239 do great ship from the really yeah. 4558 03:45:18.159 --> 03:45:20.840 Yeah, because that's where I that's where my contention with 4559 03:45:20.920 --> 03:45:23.840 Paul is is that I feel like Jesus taught a 4560 03:45:23.879 --> 03:45:29.079 more works based than faith based ministry and that that, 4561 03:45:29.360 --> 03:45:31.639 at the end of the day is really the only 4562 03:45:31.959 --> 03:45:36.040 thing that truly matters is like your actions and you 4563 03:45:36.040 --> 03:45:40.000 you show your faith. You demonstrate your faith by your actions, 4564 03:45:40.040 --> 03:45:42.680 which is why like whenever, for instance, if you get 4565 03:45:42.719 --> 03:45:45.799 married to someone, it doesn't matter that you say that 4566 03:45:45.840 --> 03:45:47.879 you're married to them if you don't act like it, 4567 03:45:47.879 --> 03:45:50.479 if you're cheating on them every day, or you're you're 4568 03:45:50.520 --> 03:45:55.719 doing your word literally does not mean shit unless you 4569 03:45:55.799 --> 03:45:59.440 demonstrate what you say by your actions. So at the 4570 03:45:59.520 --> 03:46:01.440 end of the day, it doesn't matter what you say 4571 03:46:01.559 --> 03:46:04.159 or think or feel or whatever. The only thing that 4572 03:46:04.239 --> 03:46:08.319 matters that you're accountable for in real life is how 4573 03:46:08.360 --> 03:46:11.600 you treat people and by doing what you're saying you're 4574 03:46:11.639 --> 03:46:12.000 gonna do. 4575 03:46:13.399 --> 03:46:14.079 No, I'm with you. 4576 03:46:14.239 --> 03:46:16.159 I'm with you on this, but I also believe that 4577 03:46:16.559 --> 03:46:19.879 you can't good deeds your way into heaven. I believe 4578 03:46:19.920 --> 03:46:22.120 that you can't get to heaven unless you acknowledge you 4579 03:46:22.120 --> 03:46:24.959 as a sacrifice as penance for your sins for salvation. 4580 03:46:25.159 --> 03:46:28.200 But you should do good works because you have the 4581 03:46:28.280 --> 03:46:31.520 ability to do good works. You should honor God for 4582 03:46:31.760 --> 03:46:35.040 gift of salvation by living your life in the most 4583 03:46:35.159 --> 03:46:38.159 upright way possible and spreading his word. I don't believe 4584 03:46:38.159 --> 03:46:40.200 that you should because I also think that if you 4585 03:46:40.239 --> 03:46:42.200 get this gift of salvation and you just hold it 4586 03:46:42.239 --> 03:46:44.639 to yourself, right they talk about taking a lamp and 4587 03:46:44.639 --> 03:46:47.360 putting it under a basket. If you have the gift 4588 03:46:47.399 --> 03:46:49.639 of freedom and you just hold that to yourself and 4589 03:46:49.680 --> 03:46:53.159 don't share that with anybody, then you're guilty for their 4590 03:46:53.680 --> 03:46:56.280 death if you will just as much as they are. 4591 03:46:56.399 --> 03:46:58.200 You could have saved them and you didn't. That makes 4592 03:46:58.200 --> 03:47:01.239 you complicit in it. But and I'm not just saying 4593 03:47:01.280 --> 03:47:03.959 like going and prosthlytizing the people. I think absolutely you 4594 03:47:04.000 --> 03:47:06.959 should be doing good works because you can do good works, 4595 03:47:07.239 --> 03:47:09.000 but I don't believe that good works are gonna get 4596 03:47:09.040 --> 03:47:10.959 yourself into heaven because at that point you're trying to 4597 03:47:10.959 --> 03:47:12.159 make yourself co savior. 4598 03:47:12.479 --> 03:47:14.399 So either A you're saying that what. 4599 03:47:14.440 --> 03:47:17.319 Jesus did in the Cross isn't enough and that that 4600 03:47:17.479 --> 03:47:20.200 wasn't enough to wash you of your sins, or B 4601 03:47:20.760 --> 03:47:23.879 you're saying that somehow you want to do more than 4602 03:47:24.120 --> 03:47:27.120 Jesus did and it doesn't. Neither of those make sense. 4603 03:47:27.360 --> 03:47:29.799 I believe that yes, faith with or works without faith 4604 03:47:29.920 --> 03:47:32.479 is dead works. But at the same time, you should 4605 03:47:32.520 --> 03:47:34.879 be doing these works anyway one hundred percent. 4606 03:47:35.639 --> 03:47:38.200 You know what I think, though, it's kind of unfair. 4607 03:47:38.360 --> 03:47:40.920 Not that God necessarily has to be fair with anybody, 4608 03:47:41.239 --> 03:47:43.280 but don't you think it's kind of unfair that God 4609 03:47:43.479 --> 03:47:50.799 asks for proof of faith and yet we're supposed to 4610 03:47:50.879 --> 03:47:52.879 just take everything on faith without a proof. 4611 03:47:56.319 --> 03:47:59.840 I can't speak for everybody, but I can find proof 4612 03:47:59.879 --> 03:48:04.000 of God's faithfulness to me literally in my daily life, 4613 03:48:04.040 --> 03:48:06.440 Like I can't even count the ways in which He 4614 03:48:06.520 --> 03:48:10.680 blesses me on a daily basis, But can you use 4615 03:48:10.719 --> 03:48:11.559 it for me personally? 4616 03:48:11.600 --> 03:48:15.760 But what's God's like signature as far as the proof 4617 03:48:15.760 --> 03:48:17.319 that you're seeing on a daily basis. 4618 03:48:18.719 --> 03:48:22.959 Oh fuck, where do I begin? Uh? 4619 03:48:23.000 --> 03:48:25.920 Well, I wake up every morning, which is a blessing 4620 03:48:26.000 --> 03:48:28.200 in and of itself, because tomorrow is not promised to 4621 03:48:28.239 --> 03:48:30.200 any of us. We could die in our sleep tonight 4622 03:48:30.239 --> 03:48:32.200 from a brain aneurysm or a blood clot that we 4623 03:48:32.239 --> 03:48:34.200 didn't know we had getting lodged in our brains. Dead. 4624 03:48:34.360 --> 03:48:38.959 Sure is the signature yahwegh on there? Or is it 4625 03:48:39.079 --> 03:48:39.680 just could it be? 4626 03:48:39.760 --> 03:48:40.040 Believe? 4627 03:48:40.159 --> 03:48:40.200 So? 4628 03:48:40.920 --> 03:48:43.479 You believe so, but it's not proof that it is 4629 03:48:43.520 --> 03:48:47.399 from this specific God. That was kind of my point 4630 03:48:47.520 --> 03:48:50.760 is that you know, the as far as the whole 4631 03:48:50.799 --> 03:48:54.680 story of you know, God asking Homie to bring his 4632 03:48:54.760 --> 03:48:56.159 kid up and throw them off a cliff, that was 4633 03:48:56.200 --> 03:48:58.719 supposed to be like proof, show me proof that you 4634 03:48:58.760 --> 03:49:02.399 actually have faith in me, right, whereas if we would 4635 03:49:02.479 --> 03:49:05.600 ask for any kind of proof, it's it's kind of like, well, 4636 03:49:05.600 --> 03:49:10.000 you can assign that name, but it's not necessarily the signature. 4637 03:49:10.440 --> 03:49:12.840 There's not a dead giveaway that it was from this 4638 03:49:13.000 --> 03:49:14.520 specific God. Is my point. 4639 03:49:16.159 --> 03:49:18.559 I feel you so, I believe that for Christians we 4640 03:49:18.639 --> 03:49:21.280 do get our faith tested on a daily basis, in 4641 03:49:21.319 --> 03:49:24.399 sometimes in very small ways that you may not even realize. 4642 03:49:24.079 --> 03:49:25.120 That that's what just happened. 4643 03:49:25.360 --> 03:49:27.879 Sometimes in very big ways, where people come at you 4644 03:49:27.959 --> 03:49:29.920 and ask you all kinds of questions about your faith 4645 03:49:30.000 --> 03:49:31.600 and you have to know what the hell you're talking about, 4646 03:49:31.719 --> 03:49:34.959 or gets shown that you clearly are not much of 4647 03:49:35.000 --> 03:49:37.000 a Christian, right. This happens to all of us in 4648 03:49:37.040 --> 03:49:40.680 different ways and in different versions. I get this, But yeah, 4649 03:49:40.719 --> 03:49:42.680 I believe that all of us have our faith tested 4650 03:49:42.840 --> 03:49:46.680 on a pretty pretty regular basis. Honestly, because this world 4651 03:49:46.760 --> 03:49:50.319 is ran by the opposition, who is trying to consistently 4652 03:49:50.360 --> 03:49:52.799 put snares and obstacles in our way. 4653 03:49:52.959 --> 03:49:55.200 I think those are all tests of our faith. 4654 03:49:56.840 --> 03:49:59.799 Okay, okay, I mean I get it, you know, just 4655 03:50:00.120 --> 03:50:03.840 coming from the faith perspective. My point was, it's like, 4656 03:50:05.200 --> 03:50:08.239 you know, this is why it's so open ended, and 4657 03:50:08.280 --> 03:50:10.200 why there are so many religions, and why there are 4658 03:50:10.200 --> 03:50:12.479 so many gods, and why there are so many mythologies. 4659 03:50:13.159 --> 03:50:16.799 It's because there's not a signature, you know what I'm 4660 03:50:16.799 --> 03:50:18.639 saying that anybody can look up and be like if 4661 03:50:18.760 --> 03:50:20.799 say they're about to get hit by a car and 4662 03:50:20.879 --> 03:50:23.239 somehow somebody pushes them out of the way, just in 4663 03:50:23.239 --> 03:50:26.319 the nick of time, well, depending on your faith, you'll 4664 03:50:26.360 --> 03:50:30.000 you'll you'll you'll say thank you so and so. Right, 4665 03:50:30.360 --> 03:50:34.280 but it's not like, uh, it's not a dead giveaway 4666 03:50:34.319 --> 03:50:36.559 of who actually did it without your faith. 4667 03:50:39.239 --> 03:50:44.239 I mean, yeah, so, I mean what tells you that 4668 03:50:44.319 --> 03:50:47.639 it was an angel versus Krishna versus. I don't know 4669 03:50:47.639 --> 03:50:49.680 if Christian we didn't do that kind of whoever. Yeah, 4670 03:50:49.719 --> 03:50:51.840 I see what you're saying, Like, you know, it was 4671 03:50:52.159 --> 03:50:54.520 Zeus that helped you out of that situation or something, 4672 03:50:56.280 --> 03:50:58.239 and like, yeah, in that case, I think it would 4673 03:50:58.280 --> 03:51:00.879 be more faith based, you know, on the individual level. 4674 03:51:01.079 --> 03:51:02.680 I see where you're going with this, for sure. 4675 03:51:03.200 --> 03:51:05.600 Sam, your hand has been raised for a good hot minute, Sir, 4676 03:51:05.719 --> 03:51:06.200 go ahead and. 4677 03:51:06.879 --> 03:51:09.440 Perry the platypus over there. He might have fallen asleep, 4678 03:51:12.239 --> 03:51:12.920 Samuel there. 4679 03:51:16.159 --> 03:51:19.200 I was just thinking about how all right, so it 4680 03:51:19.200 --> 03:51:22.399 would make sense. I've when how you brought up how 4681 03:51:22.879 --> 03:51:25.799 Muhammad was getting railed out by his. 4682 03:51:27.520 --> 03:51:27.920 Things. 4683 03:51:28.479 --> 03:51:33.559 Anyway, leave it to Sam to come back and circle 4684 03:51:33.600 --> 03:51:34.719 back to this conversation. 4685 03:51:35.840 --> 03:51:40.360 Yeah, Sam, when you realize that, and I don't mean 4686 03:51:40.440 --> 03:51:43.680 this disparaging or anything, but like SAX hundred years before 4687 03:51:44.440 --> 03:51:46.760 Muhammad had his quote unquote. 4688 03:51:47.799 --> 03:51:50.840 Incident was give it, which is every for gable. 4689 03:51:50.559 --> 03:51:55.120 But the Bible I believe it was probably says let 4690 03:51:55.159 --> 03:51:59.319 no whoever comes and says that this teaching me, besides 4691 03:51:59.360 --> 03:52:02.959 this the true season. Even if they come at disguised 4692 03:52:02.959 --> 03:52:09.360 as an angel, and then you realize that Lucifer he is, 4693 03:52:09.479 --> 03:52:12.959 that the he is of a trickster, liking to a like. 4694 03:52:13.399 --> 03:52:16.360 He is a You can count his counterpart to the 4695 03:52:16.360 --> 03:52:17.360 Norse as Loki. 4696 03:52:18.000 --> 03:52:19.920 How he is a trickster and of himself. 4697 03:52:20.399 --> 03:52:23.399 It will not surprise me if he did, because he 4698 03:52:23.479 --> 03:52:25.840 is quote unquote the most beautiful angel of all, and 4699 03:52:25.920 --> 03:52:29.360 he is a fallen angel. What if he did take 4700 03:52:29.360 --> 03:52:32.280 the form of his brother Gabriel too, and he did 4701 03:52:32.399 --> 03:52:37.079 and he possessed Mohammed because Muhammad said that Gabriel did 4702 03:52:37.159 --> 03:52:40.639 possess him and throw him to the on the floor 4703 03:52:40.760 --> 03:52:43.360 and everything and made him painfully. 4704 03:52:43.360 --> 03:52:44.479 Right out the Koran. 4705 03:52:45.520 --> 03:52:46.079 Mm hmm. 4706 03:52:47.639 --> 03:52:51.200 And so it will not make it wouldn't be very U. 4707 03:52:52.280 --> 03:52:55.840 P Pet said that, well, he's already bastardized, a guy 4708 03:52:55.959 --> 03:52:59.760 he tried to turn ambassardized gospels, make his own liking 4709 03:52:59.799 --> 03:53:02.719 his own image, So why not make his profet quote 4710 03:53:02.760 --> 03:53:05.520 unquote ull be a bottom bitch. 4711 03:53:06.719 --> 03:53:10.559 I find it kind of funny that the the I 4712 03:53:10.600 --> 03:53:13.319 believe within Islam they throw the gays off bridges. Isn't 4713 03:53:13.319 --> 03:53:14.040 that what you said, Jacob? 4714 03:53:14.959 --> 03:53:17.479 Oh, Yeah, totally depends on the country. 4715 03:53:17.520 --> 03:53:19.680 Certain cultures see the men as for pleasure and the 4716 03:53:19.719 --> 03:53:22.200 women are just for maybe making, and then in other 4717 03:53:22.280 --> 03:53:25.719 cultures they'll throw homosexuals off of roofs and behead them publicly. 4718 03:53:26.000 --> 03:53:31.319 It really depends on which area you're in gettingled. It's like, 4719 03:53:31.479 --> 03:53:32.120 what the fuck? 4720 03:53:32.239 --> 03:53:35.120 Yeah, the night of the anybody wants to look at. 4721 03:53:35.120 --> 03:53:39.920 Us, go ahead, Sam orrey, Sam, I'm sorry, it's uh, 4722 03:53:40.600 --> 03:53:42.760 it's this is the same culture that focks in little 4723 03:53:42.760 --> 03:53:46.959 boys and sheeps, so you can't really expect too much. 4724 03:53:47.079 --> 03:53:50.360 Not the only culture that does that, and not necessarily 4725 03:53:50.360 --> 03:53:52.280 to even say it's a cultural thing, and it's probably 4726 03:53:52.319 --> 03:53:54.879 just a couple of fucking weirdos that just love the 4727 03:53:54.959 --> 03:53:55.600 feeling of. 4728 03:53:56.120 --> 03:54:00.319 Sheep systemically a part of the culture. 4729 03:54:01.159 --> 03:54:04.799 Yeah, my gunners sergeant like the first and I me 4730 03:54:04.920 --> 03:54:08.000 and a group got to b MP. I'm not gonna 4731 03:54:08.040 --> 03:54:10.600 say it was. It was a gun sergeant. He sat 4732 03:54:10.680 --> 03:54:13.319 us down, say hey, you want to see what y'all fighting? 4733 03:54:13.399 --> 03:54:16.159 And I was like and I'm not gonna say what 4734 03:54:16.200 --> 03:54:18.159 I said because I'd probably get the show canceled. 4735 03:54:18.200 --> 03:54:20.760 But he showed us the video. All you see it's 4736 03:54:20.760 --> 03:54:22.680 a it's in scope, it's black and white. 4737 03:54:22.680 --> 03:54:26.959 You see it's it's over looking over like this open 4738 03:54:27.079 --> 03:54:29.959 train and you hear the main what the like, what 4739 03:54:30.280 --> 03:54:31.959 what are they doing? And you see a truck pull 4740 03:54:32.040 --> 03:54:34.719 up and you see these two guys get out and 4741 03:54:34.799 --> 03:54:36.319 you see the sheep just grazing. 4742 03:54:36.760 --> 03:54:39.600 They fucked the goat, that they fucked the sheep. 4743 03:54:39.680 --> 03:54:43.520 And is this comparable to like Mormon soaking where it's 4744 03:54:43.600 --> 03:54:45.719 like it's okay because it's not. 4745 03:54:47.959 --> 03:54:52.559 Yes, if you sacrifice the animal afterwards in the name 4746 03:54:52.600 --> 03:54:54.879 of Hala, then it's all good. And it's better for 4747 03:54:54.879 --> 03:54:56.719 you to get your seed out in an animal than 4748 03:54:56.760 --> 03:54:58.479 in a woman and commit adultery. 4749 03:54:58.559 --> 03:54:58.719 Yes. 4750 03:55:00.239 --> 03:55:04.120 Why do you see why I mentioned the Gnostics as like, 4751 03:55:05.079 --> 03:55:07.959 clearly you know some of this stuff withinside of you. 4752 03:55:08.200 --> 03:55:12.600 And then there's the the uh, not the esoteric, the 4753 03:55:12.639 --> 03:55:15.879 exoteric which is just surface level information you would look 4754 03:55:15.920 --> 03:55:19.239 at and be like, wait a second, God says them 4755 03:55:19.280 --> 03:55:22.680 allowed to fuck a goat, Like I don't. That's that's 4756 03:55:22.719 --> 03:55:24.000 kind of new information. 4757 03:55:23.840 --> 03:55:27.840 Not saying, I mean, I'm sorry, but the the Bible 4758 03:55:27.879 --> 03:55:32.840 says that vcality is a abominabal sin, that it is irredeemable, 4759 03:55:32.879 --> 03:55:34.559 and on to it is to death. 4760 03:55:34.639 --> 03:55:36.760 Yeah, not that God. I was talking about the other one. 4761 03:55:38.440 --> 03:55:41.799 But I'm just saying, do you just make the comparison 4762 03:55:42.479 --> 03:55:47.520 from Muslims fucking goats to the Gnostics claiming that God 4763 03:55:47.639 --> 03:55:48.319 was the bad guy? 4764 03:55:48.959 --> 03:55:50.879 Or did I did I miss the step on that one. 4765 03:55:50.959 --> 03:55:55.200 It's amazing how you're able to draw parallels with like 4766 03:55:55.440 --> 03:55:59.000 completely opposite kind of perspectives, but you can't get the 4767 03:55:59.040 --> 03:56:02.559 simpler ones. Never I'm trying to make a comparison. Absolutely not, 4768 03:56:02.639 --> 03:56:05.120 That's not what I'm lated. No, what I was trying 4769 03:56:05.120 --> 03:56:10.040 to say is that essentially, as I was saying, gnosticism 4770 03:56:10.479 --> 03:56:15.399 gnosis to know, you can kind of test the source, 4771 03:56:15.479 --> 03:56:18.319 test the spirit within you, if Jesus or Christ or 4772 03:56:18.360 --> 03:56:26.200 whatever is within you. That is essentially like your your thermometer. Essentially, 4773 03:56:26.360 --> 03:56:27.719 just look at it like kind of as like a 4774 03:56:27.760 --> 03:56:30.479 spiritual thermometer, the Christ within you. And then whenever you 4775 03:56:30.879 --> 03:56:33.399 read certain things, does it ring true to the Christ 4776 03:56:33.440 --> 03:56:36.719 thermometer withinside of you. That's where the whole Gnostic kind 4777 03:56:36.760 --> 03:56:41.360 of situation rings, whereas the the more exoteric kind of 4778 03:56:41.360 --> 03:56:44.639 information is like, you know, I might read this and 4779 03:56:44.680 --> 03:56:46.319 it's like, it doesn't really do anything to me. It 4780 03:56:46.360 --> 03:56:49.639 doesn't really sing true to the spirit of God within me. 4781 03:56:49.760 --> 03:56:50.920 That's that's kind of the point. 4782 03:56:50.719 --> 03:56:52.000 That I was trying to make, right. 4783 03:56:52.159 --> 03:56:53.680 No, no, no, that's my point. 4784 03:56:54.079 --> 03:56:56.879 The Gnostic texts teach that God is the bad guy, 4785 03:56:58.120 --> 03:57:00.799 and so in that the whole novel sick philosophy was 4786 03:57:00.799 --> 03:57:02.479 that the snake was the good guy and that God 4787 03:57:02.600 --> 03:57:04.719 was the bad guy in the overarching theme. 4788 03:57:06.000 --> 03:57:07.799 That's that's that's what you're. 4789 03:57:07.680 --> 03:57:10.600 Saying, rings true to your your thermometer. Then that tells 4790 03:57:10.639 --> 03:57:12.840 me that we're a little off base from truth. 4791 03:57:14.399 --> 03:57:16.559 Well, I don't know. I'm gonna be honest with you. 4792 03:57:16.600 --> 03:57:19.000 I don't really know the entire story of what they 4793 03:57:19.040 --> 03:57:22.159 believe about the Demiurge, but I do know the basic So. 4794 03:57:22.159 --> 03:57:23.719 How are you talking about it if you don't know, 4795 03:57:23.719 --> 03:57:26.680 if you've never read it, you see what that sounds like. 4796 03:57:27.239 --> 03:57:30.319 What I'm saying is I've actually, you know, put hands 4797 03:57:30.319 --> 03:57:32.079 on it. I've actually put eyes on it. I didn't 4798 03:57:32.200 --> 03:57:35.559 just listen to somebody talking about it. So what I'm 4799 03:57:35.600 --> 03:57:37.959 saying is is that I don't I didn't look into 4800 03:57:37.959 --> 03:57:40.639 the demiurge. I was more so focused on the Jesus 4801 03:57:40.680 --> 03:57:43.319 sayings more than anything else. The demiurge is like some 4802 03:57:43.440 --> 03:57:46.680 external shit. But what they are saying, though, is that 4803 03:57:46.879 --> 03:57:50.680 essentially that the Old Testament God, which is what they 4804 03:57:50.719 --> 03:57:55.239 would be referring to, because the the Nagamati was written 4805 03:57:55.479 --> 03:58:02.120 I believe before or right after the the to fucking 4806 03:58:02.239 --> 03:58:06.559 Nicia Council of Nicea, and so it would be and 4807 03:58:06.600 --> 03:58:08.920 it would be referring to the Old Testament more than 4808 03:58:08.959 --> 03:58:12.840 anything else if they're referring to anything, you know, in 4809 03:58:12.920 --> 03:58:15.719 that time. And so the idea would be is that 4810 03:58:15.760 --> 03:58:19.319 the the God that was in that Bible was kind 4811 03:58:19.319 --> 03:58:21.760 of like the fake God, the God that was like 4812 03:58:22.120 --> 03:58:26.440 the jealous God, the angry God, the spiteful God, that 4813 03:58:26.520 --> 03:58:29.399 kind of God, and that essentially the God if you 4814 03:58:30.239 --> 03:58:33.040 it's looking at it from an entirely different different perspective, 4815 03:58:33.040 --> 03:58:34.680 that the God of the New Testament the God of 4816 03:58:34.680 --> 03:58:38.079 the Old Testament are very different characters. And so therefore 4817 03:58:38.120 --> 03:58:40.920 the demiurge would be the Old Testament God or the 4818 03:58:40.920 --> 03:58:44.440 demiurge the fake God. That's what they believe. 4819 03:58:44.520 --> 03:58:47.399 So it sounds like narcissism teaches more than one god. 4820 03:58:49.040 --> 03:58:52.520 No, no, which is heretical. Oh really, because the Bible 4821 03:58:52.680 --> 03:58:54.479 also teaches more than one god. 4822 03:58:56.440 --> 03:58:57.159 They do not. 4823 03:58:57.319 --> 03:58:59.959 You have literally just the God, the Creator. 4824 03:59:00.280 --> 03:59:02.440 You have Jesus, the son of God, who was God 4825 03:59:02.479 --> 03:59:05.559 incarnate on earth. But still Jesus himself said I am 4826 03:59:05.600 --> 03:59:07.440 not the Father. He said, he is the son of man. 4827 03:59:08.000 --> 03:59:09.959 And then you have the Word, which is not the 4828 03:59:09.959 --> 03:59:11.879 same thing. That's funny. 4829 03:59:11.879 --> 03:59:15.920 Well, what was God jealous of again? Of other gods? 4830 03:59:18.520 --> 03:59:21.760 Yeah, he was talking about the fucking statues, not the Actually, 4831 03:59:21.760 --> 03:59:25.719 there's no actual gods up there other than himkill off 4832 03:59:25.719 --> 03:59:26.559 the other gods. 4833 03:59:27.440 --> 03:59:33.239 God said he would kill off all the other gods. 4834 03:59:33.360 --> 03:59:36.920 On earth. Dude, But there's nobody worshiping the Egyptian gods 4835 03:59:37.000 --> 03:59:40.239 right down. There's nobody worshiping the Greek pantheon anymore. There's 4836 03:59:40.399 --> 03:59:41.200 there's a reason for that. 4837 03:59:41.879 --> 03:59:42.280 Okay. 4838 03:59:42.319 --> 03:59:44.719 And if you kill the ideology, did you not kill 4839 03:59:44.760 --> 03:59:47.000 the god exactly? 4840 03:59:47.680 --> 03:59:50.520 Okay, So he didn't actually like kill the gods in 4841 03:59:50.559 --> 03:59:52.360 the heavens because there's more than one god of there. 4842 03:59:52.399 --> 03:59:55.040 It's in the pantheon. That's not really, that's not reality. 4843 03:59:55.840 --> 03:59:58.920 So you have killed the god. 4844 03:59:59.200 --> 04:00:01.120 And Moloch was a demon. 4845 04:00:02.559 --> 04:00:03.239 Called a god. 4846 04:00:03.479 --> 04:00:06.920 Actually in the Bible, they may have worshiped him as 4847 04:00:06.959 --> 04:00:09.040 a god, but he was not actually a god. That's 4848 04:00:09.079 --> 04:00:11.440 there's a different distinction there. It's like worshiping an angel 4849 04:00:11.479 --> 04:00:13.159 as a god. That's not the same thing. 4850 04:00:13.879 --> 04:00:16.760 Literally, whenever God says that he's a jealous god for 4851 04:00:16.840 --> 04:00:19.639 anybody who worships other gods, the first name that's mentioned 4852 04:00:19.680 --> 04:00:20.200 is Moloch. 4853 04:00:22.120 --> 04:00:28.719 Yeah, when describing other gods, if you translate it properly, 4854 04:00:29.079 --> 04:00:33.840 he says it says Eloheim shall have no other Elohim 4855 04:00:34.399 --> 04:00:34.840 before me. 4856 04:00:36.840 --> 04:00:39.440 Right, you shall have no other God before him. He's saying, 4857 04:00:39.479 --> 04:00:43.959 don't worship anything other than me. So if I'm confused. 4858 04:00:43.559 --> 04:00:46.840 With the theme, is the name for the singular one God, 4859 04:00:47.200 --> 04:00:49.799 the only God, the creator of all? Why would he 4860 04:00:50.920 --> 04:00:54.479 in first person use his own name that means the 4861 04:00:54.479 --> 04:00:58.399 one and only ever to describe other things? 4862 04:00:58.440 --> 04:01:00.079 That mean that good. 4863 04:01:00.120 --> 04:01:05.079 Point, Loheim doesn't specifically only mean God. There's other context 4864 04:01:05.120 --> 04:01:07.200 where it means something of the angelic realm. 4865 04:01:07.639 --> 04:01:10.639 Well in that so it could be it specifically means 4866 04:01:11.040 --> 04:01:11.760 another god. 4867 04:01:13.719 --> 04:01:16.719 But right, he's basically there's no other gods but him. 4868 04:01:17.040 --> 04:01:22.239 Powerful ones with the nests, and it is plural in 4869 04:01:22.280 --> 04:01:24.520 that sense as well. 4870 04:01:24.559 --> 04:01:29.000 But that's what I'm saying, so right, it's spelled the 4871 04:01:29.000 --> 04:01:31.520 same in all of that context clues give it different meanings. 4872 04:01:31.520 --> 04:01:34.520 So like, would you not consider the fallen angels that 4873 04:01:34.559 --> 04:01:36.600 would have become what we would later call the fallen, 4874 04:01:36.639 --> 04:01:39.399 the watchers, the demons and all that, those would also 4875 04:01:39.440 --> 04:01:41.280 be classified in the Eloheim class, right? 4876 04:01:41.920 --> 04:01:42.040 Uh? 4877 04:01:43.120 --> 04:01:46.840 I I would say technically yes. 4878 04:01:46.840 --> 04:01:49.040 Like there's there's texts that do call them that. So 4879 04:01:49.079 --> 04:01:52.360 he's saying, don't worship the other angelic beings over here? 4880 04:01:52.840 --> 04:01:53.040 Yeah? 4881 04:01:53.120 --> 04:01:56.159 Yeah, Well, the the the argument that I would make 4882 04:01:56.239 --> 04:01:58.959 is that they're all under the same category, and that 4883 04:01:58.959 --> 04:02:02.520 that's that God is just a different one of those 4884 04:02:02.600 --> 04:02:08.239 who's uh taking his claim if you will, and if 4885 04:02:08.360 --> 04:02:11.159 I hear you, and I'll translate it that way, that 4886 04:02:11.319 --> 04:02:14.399 story looks that way. If you read it all as Eloheim, 4887 04:02:14.680 --> 04:02:18.040 it becomes like if you read them all as power, 4888 04:02:18.079 --> 04:02:21.280 if you translate Elohem to its root as powerful ones, 4889 04:02:21.440 --> 04:02:23.920 like all the way back, then the whole Biblical story 4890 04:02:23.959 --> 04:02:29.680 becomes a narrative of these different powerful beings like kind 4891 04:02:29.680 --> 04:02:34.520 of like vying for people in territory amongst each other, 4892 04:02:35.360 --> 04:02:35.920 because the. 4893 04:02:36.200 --> 04:02:39.239 See that's yeah. 4894 04:02:39.600 --> 04:02:43.120 The conversation I've heard also is like, well, every god 4895 04:02:43.200 --> 04:02:46.159 of any of these pantheons were demons that presented themselves 4896 04:02:46.200 --> 04:02:49.760 as these gods, which would make them by definition elohem. 4897 04:02:49.799 --> 04:02:52.559 Now I'm not saying I specifically believe that could be. 4898 04:02:53.000 --> 04:02:56.440 I don't know, but per the context of what you're saying, 4899 04:02:56.479 --> 04:02:58.680 God is saying that he's a jealous God and not 4900 04:02:58.799 --> 04:03:02.799 to worship any of these other god's, only him, by 4901 04:03:02.840 --> 04:03:09.600 God's he's talking about Loki for ish tar raw akhema, 4902 04:03:10.159 --> 04:03:15.840 not akama. Excuse me, I meant doghead dude ance right, 4903 04:03:16.000 --> 04:03:19.120 like all these things who would have been fallen angels, 4904 04:03:19.120 --> 04:03:21.840 therefore Loheim as well. But I also think there's a 4905 04:03:21.920 --> 04:03:25.559 pretty clear distinction between the dude who created everything and 4906 04:03:25.600 --> 04:03:29.639 his lackeys who were the other Eloheims. But for the 4907 04:03:29.680 --> 04:03:32.760 context that you're talking about, I see how that comparison 4908 04:03:32.799 --> 04:03:33.280 could be drawn. 4909 04:03:33.319 --> 04:03:33.840 For shut this. 4910 04:03:33.840 --> 04:03:36.920 Out, I actually never heard of this. But for the 4911 04:03:36.959 --> 04:03:40.440 people that say eloheim absolutely is plural and cannot be 4912 04:03:40.479 --> 04:03:45.159 looked at as singular, there actually is a singular term 4913 04:03:45.360 --> 04:03:50.559 of Loheim, which isla. And so whenever you're pluralizing it, 4914 04:03:50.559 --> 04:03:54.520 it becomes Eloheim. That's kind of strange, right, So if 4915 04:03:54.520 --> 04:03:59.479 you're referencing yourself as Eloheim in the beginning, yellowhem created right, he. 4916 04:04:01.280 --> 04:04:03.120 H is singular. 4917 04:04:04.200 --> 04:04:10.479 La means God or mighty one, whereas lheim means God's 4918 04:04:10.879 --> 04:04:12.000 or powerful ones. 4919 04:04:14.079 --> 04:04:16.559 That's kind of saying I'm not like a not a 4920 04:04:16.600 --> 04:04:19.040 master of the Hebrew language here, but I would always 4921 04:04:19.200 --> 04:04:21.879 take it to mean that when God is speaking about 4922 04:04:21.959 --> 04:04:24.600 himself and the third person like that, and he's using 4923 04:04:24.680 --> 04:04:27.040 himself in the plural, he is speaking about the. 4924 04:04:26.879 --> 04:04:28.079 Three in one godhead. 4925 04:04:28.719 --> 04:04:29.840 Well, that's why it has to be right. 4926 04:04:29.840 --> 04:04:32.040 Let's let us make man in our image. 4927 04:04:32.079 --> 04:04:33.639 I take that to me. And he's talking about the Father, 4928 04:04:33.719 --> 04:04:35.840 the Son, and the Holy Spirit or the Word. He's 4929 04:04:35.840 --> 04:04:38.200 talking about these three as a unison, and that would 4930 04:04:38.200 --> 04:04:41.760 be you know, they're separate, but they are also similar. 4931 04:04:41.840 --> 04:04:49.479 In the Old Testament, was the the son mentioned specificeside? 4932 04:04:50.719 --> 04:04:54.799 But whenever we're talking about as God as the triple 4933 04:04:55.000 --> 04:04:58.840 Godhead or whatever however you want to reference it is, 4934 04:04:58.840 --> 04:05:01.479 is it understood with than the Torah that the Son 4935 04:05:01.680 --> 04:05:03.680 is part of that union. 4936 04:05:05.719 --> 04:05:08.479 It was understood that the Son of God would one 4937 04:05:08.559 --> 04:05:10.760 day walk the earth and be the Messiah. Yes, so 4938 04:05:10.799 --> 04:05:12.600 it was understood that there was a son of God 4939 04:05:12.639 --> 04:05:13.000 with him. 4940 04:05:13.399 --> 04:05:18.000 So in the beginning when it says eloheim, you're assuming 4941 04:05:18.239 --> 04:05:21.680 that it does say it is including the sun. 4942 04:05:23.959 --> 04:05:26.200 That's how I have always taken it to mean the God, 4943 04:05:26.319 --> 04:05:29.159 the Father of the Son, and the Holy Spirit, right 4944 04:05:29.479 --> 04:05:32.000 or the Word. That's the other thing. The Word was God, 4945 04:05:32.040 --> 04:05:34.079 and the God was the Word, and all these things. 4946 04:05:34.120 --> 04:05:37.520 It's the same conversation, honestly. Like they say, it's the 4947 04:05:37.920 --> 04:05:40.879 three chords on a guitar, all tuned with the same 4948 04:05:40.920 --> 04:05:44.040 note being strummed at the same time. They are individual chords, 4949 04:05:44.040 --> 04:05:46.799 but they're performing the same function in unison with each other. 4950 04:05:47.000 --> 04:05:50.120 That's just my own perspective. There are some Christians, by 4951 04:05:50.159 --> 04:05:51.920 the way, who believe that what I just said is 4952 04:05:51.959 --> 04:05:54.440 completely heretical and I should go to hell for saying that. 4953 04:05:55.200 --> 04:05:56.600 Just so we're all clear, it's not like that's on 4954 04:05:56.680 --> 04:05:59.319 behalf of all of Christendom. But that's just from the 4955 04:05:59.319 --> 04:06:01.319 research that I done. That's my perspective. 4956 04:06:01.440 --> 04:06:03.079 Don't you think that it's kind of weird that it's 4957 04:06:03.360 --> 04:06:06.360 like that, though, because you could say so, I played 4958 04:06:06.399 --> 04:06:09.079 football for a long time, right, and a football team 4959 04:06:09.200 --> 04:06:13.360 is comprised of a bunch of football players. But when 4960 04:06:13.399 --> 04:06:17.159 we are working cohesively, we are called a singular unit. 4961 04:06:18.440 --> 04:06:19.600 Is that what you're trying to say? 4962 04:06:19.639 --> 04:06:19.879 That? 4963 04:06:19.879 --> 04:06:23.280 That's like essentially God is comprised of many different factors, 4964 04:06:23.319 --> 04:06:25.719 but they all work as one as a unit. Is 4965 04:06:25.760 --> 04:06:26.319 that what you're saying. 4966 04:06:27.639 --> 04:06:29.280 I wouldn't say many, I would say three. 4967 04:06:30.239 --> 04:06:34.360 And they are working together in their own ways and 4968 04:06:34.399 --> 04:06:36.680 to perform their own job, functions and roles. 4969 04:06:36.760 --> 04:06:42.120 Yes, so it gets more convoluted the more you get 4970 04:06:42.159 --> 04:06:42.479 into it. 4971 04:06:42.520 --> 04:06:45.079 To be honest with you, God had to send himself 4972 04:06:45.840 --> 04:06:50.319 onto earth to be a sacrifice for people for his creation, right, 4973 04:06:50.840 --> 04:06:55.920 But he didn't send God himself. Yahweh didn't send Yahweh himself. 4974 04:06:56.200 --> 04:06:59.239 He sends his son, who is a part of that 4975 04:06:59.319 --> 04:07:02.040 three union. They're all the same, they're they're all accord 4976 04:07:02.399 --> 04:07:04.879 in the tune of g being strummed at the same time. 4977 04:07:05.319 --> 04:07:07.360 So like you can replace one with the other in 4978 04:07:07.399 --> 04:07:10.239 certain contexts, but they are not the exact same thing. 4979 04:07:10.280 --> 04:07:13.120 They don't perform the same function. But the Holy Spirit 4980 04:07:13.120 --> 04:07:15.639 that connected both of them is how that was God 4981 04:07:15.680 --> 04:07:17.760 on earth. Right, So like I don't have a problem 4982 04:07:17.760 --> 04:07:20.959 with Catholic saying that Mary was the mother of God. 4983 04:07:20.760 --> 04:07:24.879 I don't particularly like the amount of weight they put 4984 04:07:25.079 --> 04:07:28.159 onto her for that purpose. Her womb was the ark 4985 04:07:28.200 --> 04:07:31.040 of the New Covenant. I get all that. But yes, 4986 04:07:31.239 --> 04:07:33.600 Jesus was God in flesh, but he was also the 4987 04:07:33.639 --> 04:07:35.639 son of God. So like yeah, like I said, the 4988 04:07:35.680 --> 04:07:37.479 more you look into it, the more you dig it's 4989 04:07:37.840 --> 04:07:40.399 it gets convoluted. And I understand why there's so much 4990 04:07:41.520 --> 04:07:42.760 dissemination between it. 4991 04:07:43.559 --> 04:07:46.239 My God, I did not realize we were over four hours. 4992 04:07:46.399 --> 04:07:48.719 Holy shit, time flashes when you're having fun. 4993 04:07:48.719 --> 04:07:50.319 Baby. I can't wait for us to one day have 4994 04:07:50.360 --> 04:07:53.399 an episode where we don't talk about anything biblical whatsoever 4995 04:07:53.440 --> 04:07:54.920 and stick strictly to conspiracies. 4996 04:07:55.000 --> 04:07:59.280 Gonna agree, I agree on that, sir. By the way, 4997 04:07:59.280 --> 04:07:59.840 I want you to. 4998 04:08:00.079 --> 04:08:02.680 The record how we got started on this was early 4999 04:08:02.799 --> 04:08:05.319 man and cavemen, and then we talked about a global 5000 04:08:05.360 --> 04:08:08.319 flood and we started talking about the historicity of it all, 5001 04:08:08.600 --> 04:08:10.760 and I was like, wait, wait, wait, pause, I'm not 5002 04:08:10.799 --> 04:08:12.639 saying that the Earth is only six thousand years old. 5003 04:08:12.639 --> 04:08:14.280 I think it goes a little bit before that, and 5004 04:08:14.280 --> 04:08:20.840 there's some misunderstandings here, and that spawned every fucking thing else, So. 5005 04:08:20.879 --> 04:08:22.799 You kind of opened the door to it. 5006 04:08:24.120 --> 04:08:26.760 Didn't mean to. I was talking about the global flood, 5007 04:08:27.200 --> 04:08:29.000 that was all I was doing. And I was talking 5008 04:08:29.040 --> 04:08:31.440 about the story of Noah predates the story of Gilgamesh. 5009 04:08:31.479 --> 04:08:32.799 That was all I was trying to say. 5010 04:08:32.920 --> 04:08:36.360 This was an absolute blast. I love this conversation seriously, 5011 04:08:36.399 --> 04:08:38.719 and it wasn't even like to argue. It was just 5012 04:08:38.760 --> 04:08:41.959 to you know, come together with difference of thought and 5013 04:08:42.040 --> 04:08:44.799 see how the difference of thoughts could align. That's all. 5014 04:08:45.319 --> 04:08:45.639 Thank you. 5015 04:08:45.799 --> 04:08:51.719 I get this conspiracy show. Say that again, Nick, Appreciate you. Nick. 5016 04:08:51.879 --> 04:08:56.040 I was thinking Jacob because I enjoyed these conversations myself, 5017 04:08:56.079 --> 04:08:59.840 and Jacob is the only person that I feel that 5018 04:09:00.040 --> 04:09:02.719 I can have the back and forth like this in 5019 04:09:02.799 --> 04:09:06.239 like a non combative and like, I don't know, it's 5020 04:09:06.360 --> 04:09:07.719 it's it's. 5021 04:09:07.639 --> 04:09:11.360 Nice, semi combative, a little bit like but like we 5022 04:09:11.360 --> 04:09:13.639 need to bring boxing gloves to bro Grove because of 5023 04:09:13.680 --> 04:09:14.360 me and you, John. 5024 04:09:14.440 --> 04:09:16.280 Then it's like, no, no, that's not that was not 5025 04:09:16.399 --> 04:09:18.239 the tone here. First of all, Jacob, you don't want 5026 04:09:18.239 --> 04:09:21.399 that fucking smoke. Okay, I'm just kidding. I don't know. 5027 04:09:22.760 --> 04:09:26.239 First of all, bring your ass whenever you ready. I 5028 04:09:26.799 --> 04:09:28.920 don't I don't have I don't have the stam enough 5029 04:09:28.959 --> 04:09:31.159 for all that shit. I'm I'm way back, dude. I'll 5030 04:09:31.159 --> 04:09:34.120 give you. I'll give you sixty seconds of fucking straight 5031 04:09:34.239 --> 04:09:37.120 up hell, but after that I'm winded, So just run 5032 04:09:37.159 --> 04:09:38.719 around for a minute and I'll be done. 5033 04:09:39.959 --> 04:09:42.079 I put you in armer once upon a time, didn't 5034 04:09:42.120 --> 04:09:45.719 I Yeah, yeah, I thought I did in the front 5035 04:09:45.799 --> 04:09:47.479 yard and it was like me and you fought. It 5036 04:09:47.520 --> 04:09:49.200 was literally just to like see how you could move in. 5037 04:09:49.200 --> 04:09:51.040 The armor and like get an appreciation for. 5038 04:09:51.000 --> 04:09:54.120 It is hard being in that. It's so it's so hot, 5039 04:09:54.200 --> 04:09:56.319 you can't breathe, it's hard to move around in it, 5040 04:09:56.399 --> 04:10:00.639 you can't see shit, Like it's difficult, way different than 5041 04:10:00.639 --> 04:10:00.959 you hear. 5042 04:10:00.920 --> 04:10:04.040 The stories of these battles from the Middle Ages, lasting 5043 04:10:04.079 --> 04:10:05.120 like all afternoon. 5044 04:10:05.280 --> 04:10:08.319 I'm like, in full plate armor. Get fucks. 5045 04:10:08.719 --> 04:10:14.399 Yeah, yeah you could for that, but uh but yeah, anyway, No, 5046 04:10:14.520 --> 04:10:17.079 this is a good conversation, And Jacob, I wasn't like 5047 04:10:17.120 --> 04:10:19.000 I was saying, this is not to come at you. 5048 04:10:19.079 --> 04:10:21.079 It's more of like, who else am I going to 5049 04:10:21.120 --> 04:10:22.120 have this conversation with? 5050 04:10:22.559 --> 04:10:22.600 You? 5051 04:10:22.680 --> 04:10:25.479 Know what I'm saying, Like you're really you're the only 5052 04:10:25.559 --> 04:10:28.559 Christian that actually that I know, that actually knows shit. 5053 04:10:28.920 --> 04:10:31.479 Because most people they say, oh, I believe in Jesus, 5054 04:10:31.479 --> 04:10:32.520 that's all I really need to know. 5055 04:10:32.840 --> 04:10:35.719 I'm like, oh, well, you're the really only the one. 5056 04:10:35.719 --> 04:10:39.840 The at least of my circle, that really knows enough 5057 04:10:39.879 --> 04:10:42.319 about the Bible to even have these kind of conversations 5058 04:10:42.319 --> 04:10:43.399 with which is sad. 5059 04:10:43.639 --> 04:10:47.079 Actually I don't have enough knowledge. Though I have, I 5060 04:10:47.079 --> 04:10:49.159 would like to think that I know more than the 5061 04:10:49.200 --> 04:10:51.879 average bear. But it's not like I'm a biblical scholar 5062 04:10:51.920 --> 04:10:54.719 by any means, and I'm not a Christian apologist by 5063 04:10:54.760 --> 04:10:56.840 any stretch of the imagination. I would like to be. 5064 04:10:57.399 --> 04:11:00.159 I would like to do more research and game more 5065 04:11:00.159 --> 04:11:02.040 of this information to where I could recall the ship 5066 04:11:02.200 --> 04:11:02.959 fast as fuck. 5067 04:11:03.360 --> 04:11:06.799 But I mean, it's it's a lot to take in, 5068 04:11:07.120 --> 04:11:07.559 you know what I mean. 5069 04:11:07.600 --> 04:11:09.319 It's a lots of things to commit to memory, and 5070 04:11:09.360 --> 04:11:11.120 I only got so much mental brain space. 5071 04:11:11.440 --> 04:11:13.719 No, I mean, I'm doing the best here. Give yourself credit. 5072 04:11:13.719 --> 04:11:14.799 You know a lot about this ship. 5073 04:11:14.879 --> 04:11:18.680 You know it's impressive, and appreciate it. Yeah, that's what 5074 04:11:18.719 --> 04:11:20.280 I was trying to get at the same thing that 5075 04:11:20.399 --> 04:11:23.440 you were saying Jonathan, and I can't have those these 5076 04:11:23.440 --> 04:11:27.120 conversations with anybody else about like anybody getting offended and 5077 04:11:27.159 --> 04:11:31.079 also exploring like my ideas without them thinking that I'm 5078 04:11:31.520 --> 04:11:34.520 like a spawn of like trying to lead them down 5079 04:11:34.520 --> 04:11:35.079 the wrong. 5080 04:11:34.879 --> 04:11:38.079 Path or some ship, you know what I mean, attacking me. Yeah, 5081 04:11:39.680 --> 04:11:40.600 that's what I mean. I can't. 5082 04:11:40.760 --> 04:11:42.639 I want to get back on the show. 5083 04:11:43.959 --> 04:11:44.040 Ye. 5084 04:11:46.719 --> 04:11:48.479 I want to get Jay Dyer back on the show 5085 04:11:48.520 --> 04:11:50.879 because now that I know more about him and his 5086 04:11:51.520 --> 04:11:55.719 Eastern Orthodox belief system, I have so many questions for him. 5087 04:11:55.719 --> 04:11:58.120 But the thing is, he is like a twenty five 5088 04:11:58.239 --> 04:12:03.040 year veteran of baiting and rhetoric in philosophy, and so like, 5089 04:12:03.440 --> 04:12:05.879 if you're gonna come at him, you better have your 5090 04:12:05.920 --> 04:12:07.959 fucking homework doing. I'm not trying to come at him 5091 04:12:07.959 --> 04:12:10.079 by any means, but I didn't realize that he was 5092 04:12:10.079 --> 04:12:13.319 an Eastern Orthodox guy, or like what his what his 5093 04:12:13.399 --> 04:12:15.760 standpoints weren't a lot of this, or why he found 5094 04:12:15.760 --> 04:12:18.319 his way to that line of faith. But like, bro, 5095 04:12:18.399 --> 04:12:20.280 if you could reach out to him and we try 5096 04:12:20.280 --> 04:12:23.920 to set up another meeting, another another zoom call, I 5097 04:12:23.959 --> 04:12:25.239 have so many more questions. 5098 04:12:25.319 --> 04:12:27.200 Yeah, honest problem with him though, is that he was 5099 04:12:27.239 --> 04:12:28.959 only able to go for an hour. That's just not 5100 04:12:29.079 --> 04:12:30.680 long enough to have these conversations. 5101 04:12:32.159 --> 04:12:33.840 I don't know if that was because he was sick 5102 04:12:33.920 --> 04:12:34.719 that day or what. 5103 04:12:34.879 --> 04:12:37.040 Because I just watched him on rus Lawn, which is 5104 04:12:37.200 --> 04:12:39.680 a pretty sizable YouTube channel, to be honest, and they 5105 04:12:39.680 --> 04:12:43.479 went for two hours back and forth debating about what 5106 04:12:43.520 --> 04:12:47.879 I would call non denominational Christianity versus ether Eastern Orthodox 5107 04:12:47.920 --> 04:12:48.840 and all of these things. 5108 04:12:49.280 --> 04:12:50.360 So I don't know. 5109 04:12:50.799 --> 04:12:51.200 I don't know. 5110 04:12:51.200 --> 04:12:53.639 Maybe because it was a zoom call versus in person. 5111 04:12:53.799 --> 04:12:55.760 He is a Christian or not, I can't remember. 5112 04:12:56.440 --> 04:13:00.920 Oh yes, Oh, Jay Dyer is hard or Christian debater, 5113 04:13:01.000 --> 04:13:02.680 but he's an Eastern Orthodox Christian. 5114 04:13:03.159 --> 04:13:05.120 I would love to get Jay Dyer and Micah Dank 5115 04:13:05.159 --> 04:13:05.879 on a conversation. 5116 04:13:07.239 --> 04:13:10.360 Oh, for the love of God, No, no, no, I 5117 04:13:10.399 --> 04:13:13.280 don't want Jay to to get angry with us for 5118 04:13:13.440 --> 04:13:16.159 hosting an event of that nature, because Jay Dyer is 5119 04:13:16.200 --> 04:13:21.559 a true classically trained debater. Oh wait, Micah Dank mm 5120 04:13:21.639 --> 04:13:24.920 hm oh God. For some reason, I thought you meant 5121 04:13:24.920 --> 04:13:27.840 Brandon Kroll. Yeah, no, I'll take I'll take Michah Dank 5122 04:13:27.879 --> 04:13:30.719 and Jay Dyer. That would be fucking great. I mean, 5123 04:13:30.760 --> 04:13:32.520 I love Brandon, but he gets a little He's just 5124 04:13:32.520 --> 04:13:34.479 gonna get mad and quick, get out of here, quick though. 5125 04:13:34.520 --> 04:13:37.719 That's Micah Dank, doesn't. He keeps saying he wants somebody 5126 04:13:37.799 --> 04:13:39.959 to debate him, but as soon as I offered up 5127 04:13:40.000 --> 04:13:42.360 any points of contention, he like got flustered. 5128 04:13:42.799 --> 04:13:45.319 It's like, so, do you want the debate or do 5129 04:13:45.399 --> 04:13:46.079 you not? 5130 04:13:46.360 --> 04:13:46.799 I don't know. 5131 04:13:47.559 --> 04:13:50.120 Yeah, he's uh, he's a little hot blooded. I do 5132 04:13:50.239 --> 04:13:53.559 love that about him though. It's and you could say 5133 04:13:53.600 --> 04:13:56.559 that he's hot, hot blooded or maybe just passionate, which 5134 04:13:56.639 --> 04:14:01.000 I like him. Dude. By the way, I actually kind 5135 04:14:01.040 --> 04:14:05.040 of felt honored because I've been trying to really get 5136 04:14:05.040 --> 04:14:06.920 a hold of a lot of this, you know, get 5137 04:14:06.920 --> 04:14:09.200 a get a good understanding a lot of this esoterical 5138 04:14:09.280 --> 04:14:12.280 kind of shit, and for me, for Mike ad dude, 5139 04:14:12.280 --> 04:14:14.879 Michael Nick. I didn't tell you about this, dude. Micah 5140 04:14:14.959 --> 04:14:17.280 Dank reached out to me after the show that we did, 5141 04:14:17.639 --> 04:14:20.159 and he was like, Hey, I've never offered this to anybody, 5142 04:14:20.239 --> 04:14:22.959 but would you be willing to start a new podcast 5143 04:14:23.000 --> 04:14:24.440 with me? He goes, I think that you would be 5144 04:14:24.479 --> 04:14:27.440 great as a co host, and I was like, that's 5145 04:14:27.440 --> 04:14:29.680 fucking awesome, dude, that's kind of that's kind of like 5146 04:14:29.719 --> 04:14:31.719 a high regard for me. I feel like I'm still 5147 04:14:31.920 --> 04:14:33.520 really new to a lot of this shit, and so 5148 04:14:33.600 --> 04:14:36.159 for him to say it, I thought that was fucking sweet. 5149 04:14:36.600 --> 04:14:38.719 Oh yeah, of course that's the one. 5150 04:14:39.040 --> 04:14:40.520 That's the one you were talking about the other day 5151 04:14:40.559 --> 04:14:43.440 about like adding a new episode. 5152 04:14:44.559 --> 04:14:46.959 Oh no, no, no, no, the the as far as 5153 04:14:47.040 --> 04:14:49.280 adding a new episode, which I don't know when I'm 5154 04:14:49.280 --> 04:14:51.479 going to do that, but it is a goal of mine. 5155 04:14:51.520 --> 04:14:54.399 It's just that I got Kenzie's here with me for 5156 04:14:54.440 --> 04:14:55.159 the summer. 5157 04:14:55.159 --> 04:14:56.399 So many hours in the day, man. 5158 04:14:56.680 --> 04:14:59.399 Yeah, And to be honest, back whenever we were running 5159 04:14:59.440 --> 04:15:01.840 Meta three times a week, it was a lot. The 5160 04:15:01.879 --> 04:15:03.719 only reason why I'd be open to it is because 5161 04:15:03.719 --> 04:15:07.040 I wouldn't for that third show, I wouldn't have a 5162 04:15:07.040 --> 04:15:09.079 co host, so I could literally run it at four 5163 04:15:09.079 --> 04:15:10.639 in the morning if I wanted to, you know what 5164 04:15:10.680 --> 04:15:14.120 I mean. But yeah, that would be more of an 5165 04:15:14.200 --> 04:15:16.600 esoterical kind of thing. So I'm not sure when that's 5166 04:15:16.639 --> 04:15:18.959 gonna start. Maybe it starts next week, maybe it starts 5167 04:15:18.959 --> 04:15:22.959 whenever my daughter goes back to Louisiana. But I don't know. 5168 04:15:23.799 --> 04:15:25.840 But it's definitely coming because I love diving into that 5169 04:15:25.920 --> 04:15:27.159 kind of like deep shit. 5170 04:15:28.360 --> 04:15:31.280 But anyway, all right, well you seriously considering joining up 5171 04:15:31.280 --> 04:15:32.879 with Mike A Dank for a show though? Bro? 5172 04:15:33.120 --> 04:15:35.000 No, no, no, like, And that's what I was trying 5173 04:15:35.000 --> 04:15:36.760 to say, is that the only way that I would 5174 04:15:36.799 --> 04:15:39.120 do another shows if it's only by myself, so that 5175 04:15:39.159 --> 04:15:40.959 I could have the leeway to do it whenever I want. 5176 04:15:42.319 --> 04:15:44.239 I'm not talking about for the cult. I'm talking about 5177 04:15:44.239 --> 04:15:45.559 like an independent project. 5178 04:15:46.479 --> 04:15:49.040 No, there's there's not enough time. No, And that's the 5179 04:15:49.079 --> 04:15:51.040 thing I would love to, I like, I know that 5180 04:15:51.079 --> 04:15:53.600 I would have a blast and the conversations would be 5181 04:15:53.799 --> 04:15:55.600 fucking lit. I love that guy. 5182 04:15:57.440 --> 04:15:58.040 He said that. 5183 04:15:58.520 --> 04:16:01.159 Yeah, it was just like I saw it as honorable, 5184 04:16:01.479 --> 04:16:05.000 you know what I mean, or as an honor so 5185 04:16:05.760 --> 04:16:07.879 because I've listened to him, dude, I've been listening to 5186 04:16:07.959 --> 04:16:11.239 him before, even before I ever started podcasting, like because 5187 04:16:11.239 --> 04:16:12.799 he was going on all the shows he was on, 5188 04:16:12.959 --> 04:16:17.040 you know, Tenfoil Had and Forbidden Knowledge News and shows 5189 04:16:17.040 --> 04:16:19.600 that I was listening to before I ever started the show. 5190 04:16:21.040 --> 04:16:23.680 But yeah, uh, I would love to, but there's just 5191 04:16:23.719 --> 04:16:24.799 not enough fucking time of the day. 5192 04:16:25.520 --> 04:16:25.879 Anyway. 5193 04:16:25.920 --> 04:16:28.000 Look, I didn't realize he'd been doing it for that long. 5194 04:16:28.639 --> 04:16:32.319 That's he's taken like breaks and stuff, so he's not 5195 04:16:32.799 --> 04:16:35.840 he hasn't been like super consistent. Now he's like super 5196 04:16:35.920 --> 04:16:38.479 back into it. But just as far as like his 5197 04:16:38.600 --> 04:16:42.479 astro theological understanding, Like, dude, the way he understands that 5198 04:16:42.559 --> 04:16:44.920 kind of shit is fucking beyond me. I don't know 5199 04:16:45.000 --> 04:16:47.200 all that shit like that. Well, but that's like his 5200 04:16:47.600 --> 04:16:49.639 specialty is the astro theological stuff. 5201 04:16:50.799 --> 04:16:50.959 I know. 5202 04:16:51.079 --> 04:16:55.520 You don't comments what's that in the comments? It wasn't 5203 04:16:55.520 --> 04:16:58.319 even me. I had never seen the movie Poltergeist, but 5204 04:16:58.440 --> 04:17:00.879 apparently it's like all of this is like a rip 5205 04:17:00.959 --> 04:17:03.600 off of the Polstergeist movie and all these things. And 5206 04:17:03.639 --> 04:17:05.559 I was like, well, I can't say that. I don't 5207 04:17:05.600 --> 04:17:09.920 know that. I've never seen the movie. Apparently, people, yeah, 5208 04:17:10.040 --> 04:17:13.440 two thousand and five movie. If I'm not mistaken, basically 5209 04:17:13.479 --> 04:17:15.520 the whole the zodiac thing, and I don't. 5210 04:17:15.360 --> 04:17:17.079 Know if he's been doing it for that long. No, 5211 04:17:17.120 --> 04:17:19.399 that's not think like anything that I could. 5212 04:17:20.200 --> 04:17:22.319 Yeah, that's that's not where all that like that astro 5213 04:17:22.360 --> 04:17:24.479 theological shit has been around for a lot longer than 5214 04:17:24.479 --> 04:17:26.360 twenty years. 5215 04:17:26.719 --> 04:17:29.200 Not the Zodiac thing, but the conversation about the twelve 5216 04:17:29.239 --> 04:17:31.280 Disciples and the twelve zodiacs and all these things. 5217 04:17:31.319 --> 04:17:33.719 Apparently like that was talked about in this movie. I 5218 04:17:33.920 --> 04:17:35.200 don't know. I've never seen the movie. 5219 04:17:35.280 --> 04:17:37.399 I'm just going off of what the comments said for 5220 04:17:37.520 --> 04:17:38.440 that episode. 5221 04:17:38.120 --> 04:17:41.440 So I think that that's where it originated. 5222 04:17:42.360 --> 04:17:44.719 Or that he ripped it off of a movie. Yeah, 5223 04:17:44.760 --> 04:17:46.719 And I can't say that that's a true statement. I 5224 04:17:46.760 --> 04:17:48.719 don't know the level of research he's done with it, 5225 04:17:48.760 --> 04:17:51.360 but if he's been doing it for that long, I 5226 04:17:51.360 --> 04:17:53.280 would think that anything that I could bring to the 5227 04:17:53.319 --> 04:17:57.079 table he could easily shut down and like show how 5228 04:17:57.159 --> 04:17:58.200 well you would think that. 5229 04:17:58.399 --> 04:18:02.319 But dot dot dot dot, that's he looks at. 5230 04:18:02.360 --> 04:18:05.440 He looks at things strictly for its esoteric. He doesn't 5231 04:18:05.520 --> 04:18:08.959 he doesn't believe anything of that literal stuff, and so 5232 04:18:09.120 --> 04:18:12.680 he's a little bit extreme in that sense. But I 5233 04:18:13.319 --> 04:18:16.760 like the perspective that he brings because from that point 5234 04:18:16.799 --> 04:18:19.000 of view, he knows a lot. Not to say that 5235 04:18:19.040 --> 04:18:21.440 it's truth or false or whatever. I'm just saying, from 5236 04:18:21.479 --> 04:18:26.840 that perspective, he gets it. But anyway, I mean, people 5237 04:18:26.840 --> 04:18:28.760 can say what they want about him. I think he's 5238 04:18:28.799 --> 04:18:29.399 fucking awesome. 5239 04:18:31.159 --> 04:18:33.280 I thought it was a fun guest. Honestly, I don't 5240 04:18:33.319 --> 04:18:34.040 dislike the guy. 5241 04:18:34.200 --> 04:18:35.760 I went on his show as a matter of fact 5242 04:18:35.799 --> 04:18:37.280 to talk more about it and everything. 5243 04:18:37.360 --> 04:18:40.680 But he yeah, yeah, I hope he does. 5244 04:18:40.680 --> 04:18:40.920 Well. 5245 04:18:41.760 --> 04:18:43.719 Yeah, buddy, all right, well look let's wrap it up. 5246 04:18:43.719 --> 04:18:46.159 We're at fucking four hours and twenty minutes, dude. 5247 04:18:45.920 --> 04:18:48.600 So sorry I got such a late start. 5248 04:18:48.639 --> 04:18:48.840 Man. 5249 04:18:49.760 --> 04:18:52.319 No, we actually, I mean I started like ten minutes 5250 04:18:52.360 --> 04:18:56.879 after nine. Yeah, so I mean we're we were still 5251 04:18:57.040 --> 04:18:57.799 like on time. 5252 04:18:58.159 --> 04:18:58.360 You know. 5253 04:18:58.520 --> 04:19:00.680 It was just that, you know, I was like, fuck it. 5254 04:19:00.719 --> 04:19:02.479 I mean, I'm sure he's eventually going to show up. 5255 04:19:02.479 --> 04:19:04.760 He would have texted me. I figured that you fell asleep, 5256 04:19:05.280 --> 04:19:08.200 because usually you're always right on your phone every time 5257 04:19:08.239 --> 04:19:09.600 I text you. I can see that you read it 5258 04:19:09.639 --> 04:19:11.799 and all that. I was like, he probably fell asleep 5259 04:19:11.879 --> 04:19:17.840 or something. But it's Samuel. Go ahead and give your 5260 04:19:17.840 --> 04:19:18.399 stand off, sir. 5261 04:19:19.920 --> 04:19:21.799 Good night, Dresseie pull a where if you are. 5262 04:19:21.840 --> 04:19:24.680 I'm blessed be the chaos, much love from the Quick Boys, 5263 04:19:24.799 --> 04:19:26.239 and blessed be the chaos. 5264 04:19:27.120 --> 04:19:27.799 Two times. 5265 04:19:28.159 --> 04:19:28.479 Blessed. 5266 04:19:28.920 --> 04:19:31.879 Let's go. And yeah, with that being said, I did 5267 04:19:31.879 --> 04:19:33.280 want to say that if anybody wants to be able 5268 04:19:33.319 --> 04:19:35.399 to join in on this long ass conversation. I can't 5269 04:19:35.399 --> 04:19:38.040 guarantee four hours every time. This is actually a first, 5270 04:19:38.120 --> 04:19:40.399 I think for the live shows. 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