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Speaker 4: Bit about this BYU Kansas matchup? What do you say?

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Speaker 3: Many people are like, Hey, this is AJ versus Darren.

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We finally heard the news. Darren Peterson will be avail

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up Bull. He's available, Roddy. He got a d n

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P last game. He was just resting. He's doing a

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little load management because of that. A right, He's he's

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getting prep getting ready for the finale at fog Allen.

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Darren's gonna be ballid for the Jayhawks. It's gonna be

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a fantastic head to head matchup.

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Speaker 4: Are you are you? Are you intrigued by this matchup?

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This is that matchup you've been waiting for. Ronald three

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Speaker 2: We all have been doing this.

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Speaker 5: Brad Hammer and I you know, shout out to you

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break continue to get better. This hit has been on

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our Bengo card for twenty twenty six. We wanted it twice, Ben,

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but brett Ormar can't let BYU put Bill Seff into retirement.

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I stay on that topic because the by you are

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to get two wins in the same season against Bill

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Selphy might have to go. Remember they've they've given Bell

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tabooti both times. Just the last time they took him

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behind the shed. But no, this is anticipated matchup. I

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knew when they were gonna play Kansas. Tennis said Kansas

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is not gonna play Bro. I already knew, Brother, I was.

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I smelled that from a mala wood does a bell

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poop in the woods? If I smack you with a

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book with my left handers the mean and I'm right handed.

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saying was I knew that he wasn't gonna play in

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anticipation for this matchup. I hate the load managing, but

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that's the right thing to do, because Ben, you and

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myself we will be locked in on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Everyone wants to watch. Is my mama and my grandma watching?

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Speaker 5: They get an aj Nam wrong to his D'SE get

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these bounces, get it right, guys, but they're gonna be

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watching the game too. Everyone wants to see this, Ben, everybody.

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This is gonna determine the number one overall pick. I

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truly believe it is, unless it somehow that they go

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to double overtime or something and it's a heartbreaking loss

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for one of the teams. Been this The winner of this,

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I believe will solidify their their draft pick.

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Speaker 2: I really believe it it will.

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Speaker 5: And last time these two played, they both dropped over

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I think forty five or fifty. Darren had I think fifty.

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He hit the game winners. So AJ remembers that. Now,

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obviously we won't get a chance to talk to AJ.

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Speaker 2: But Ben, this is I hate to say it.

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Speaker 5: I know people are gonna disagree with me, but because

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of national attention, this game is arguably bigger than the

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one that they lost on Monday, and I know people

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gonna be run number one team in the country. No,

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you're wrong, Well, no, BAU College Game Day for basketball

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Speaker 4: Did you say, I'm my mama, on my mama.

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Speaker 2: On my mama, on my mama, on my mama.

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Speaker 4: I'll let you know that. Yeah, my Charlie boy.

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Speaker 2: On one second, let me get it pulled up here.

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something that's like Bible, you know, Book of Mormon.

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Speaker 4: That's big. When you say on my mom anyway, is

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a big game? Right.

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Speaker 3: Going over as the number one overall team Sacramento Kings

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at number two. They He states that Darren Peterson will

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go number one overall and Darren Peterson this season twenty

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one point six points per game, four point six rebounds

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per game, one point nine of sister per game, forty

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nine point three percent from the field, and forty two percent.

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Speaker 4: From the three point on line.

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Speaker 3: AJ's currently sitting at the top of the food chain

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in scoring in college basketball at number one overall. Twenty

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three points six points per game, six points seven rebounds

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the field, then thirty one point eight percent from the

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three point line. Really impressive players, really impressive body of

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Speaker 4: But I mean, I just why would you pick someone.

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Speaker 3: That you know has played in half of half of

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Darren will continue to have issues with his health into

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the NBA. So it will that will that decrease his

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draft stock? It's a possibility, guys. Ken Palm, by the way,

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the remainder of BYU schedule. BYU u UH has a

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thirty six percent probability of win not all that favorable.

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chances of victory versus Houston, Baylor was sixty six percent,

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BYU's projected direction for the full season at around almost

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twenty four and seven right there. Twenty three and eight,

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that's probably where they would be at right now.

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Speaker 4: So that's you know, at worst, you're at worst. I'm

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twenty eight wins, But most likely, I think the most

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likely scenario, right they're gonna get to twenty five wins.

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as already they've already won to watch seventeen games with

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eleven games remaining, boa could win a benny is what

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twenty eight wins? How many losses will they have? It's

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Speaker 4: So that's mine.

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Speaker 2: Both of those are at the Marriott Center. And Ben,

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't I wouldn't disagree with you with one of

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the losses coming between Houston and Iowa State.

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Speaker 2: The Big twelve US is so tough.

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Speaker 5: They gotta get Kansas though, Ben, I know that the

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metrics and the numbers say that. But Kevin Young needs says,

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I can't remember the last time this team has had

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this much offensive like success and they drop back to

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back games and last year, peop are gonna say, well, Ron,

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they open, Yeah, but the team, the offense wasn't what

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it was is now in the players. So you can't

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lose this being. You need to quad what they're missing.

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these bracketologists. I'm gonna start getting on in February.

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Speaker 4: beIN.

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Speaker 5: As the season gets on, they're all saying the same thing.

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Where's the Premiere Quad one win on the road?

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Speaker 4: Yep?

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Speaker 7: This is it?

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Speaker 5: So you can't drop Saturday, you really can't. I game

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day is gonna be the game day. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Daron Peterson is expected to be available per John ROSSI.

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Speaker 2: Look, football, let us down, Ben and I know it

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Speaker 5: Lubbly was tough. They're pumping in crowd noise, they were antics.

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Evan Johnson the win just you know, took the ball

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to left, Trey dropped it. You know it wasn't all

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the way locked in. You can't lose another Premier matchup.

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Speaker 4: You can't.

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Speaker 2: You just can't do it.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be a heartbreaker if you if you do,

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and look, you'd be number thirteen and number fourteen, number thirteen,

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Speaker 2: Kansas is going at it.

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Speaker 4: BeIN no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about, you know, a little

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bit more in depth with this this Kansas Jayhawk team.

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How often John Rosston caught up with Bill self? How

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often does Bill self think about winning a third national title.

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Speaker 8: Oh, what you've gone through over the past couple of

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years health wise has made you see the bigger picture.

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to coach and be in the gym every day. But

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you're still a competitor and you're still coaching at Kansas.

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national championship?

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Speaker 6: And I haven't thought about it but about thirty minutes

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so far today, Probably.

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is what drives you? What?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 6: Why?

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Speaker 3: More?

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Speaker 6: And the reason is is because you know you got

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to get one and two so much better one and

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Speaker 4: And that's what drives me.

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Speaker 6: And I want to do this as long as we

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can compete at the highest level. And in the last

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Speaker 4: We have been nationally in the game.

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Speaker 6: And this year, I don't know that we are quite yet.

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I want to be in the game. I want I

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that's what that's what drives us.

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Speaker 3: They go as Bill self always striving, always, you know,

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thriving and trying to uh to figure out how to

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Speaker 4: This the year for him?

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Speaker 3: Do you think this was the year that Kansas gets survived,

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advance and find themselves in the National Championship Game?

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Speaker 2: Oh, they would need a lot more to to work.

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Speaker 5: Ben, I think Kansas and bore at that same level

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of players that they have and can go to the

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next level. I don't know though, Ben. I mean, look

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I know Bill self has thought about it and he

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has the pedigree, but Tommy Lloyd has a team he

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was under Mark Few that coaching tree. Look, it's gonna be,

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It's gonna beat man. This big twelve is damn difficult,

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isn't it been. It's just you have to just think

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with how Arizona's playing, and Ben still Kelvin Samson. How

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am I gonna be disrespectful of that? They were just

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there so Tommy Lloyd, Kelvin Sampson, Arizona, Houston, I mean

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Iowa State teas an Oscar Berger is still a good coach.

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But until I started to see Kansas put it together

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more and it's all predicated upon your superstars. Darren Peterson's

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in and out of games, So no, you're I don't

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think they are national championship bound.

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Speaker 2: I know that. It's just it's tough for me to

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pick them.

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Speaker 5: Ben, with Darren Peterson, who's supposed to be the number

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one overall pick not not playing in games.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 5: I know they beat Kansas State, but Kansas State is

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so up and down a drum tank. I know they

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beat Baylor, but he played it. It's just it's so tough.

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just really tough. I mean, TCU almost got you and

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they had to come back in a thriller. So I

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just I can't put him up there just yet. With that,

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I think they are Sweet sixteen team pushing to be

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a you know, an Elite eight like BYU, but I

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think they're in the same tier right now. I just

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there are others in the Big twelve that I put over,

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and if Darren's not in the lineup, they're not even

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in that conversation. So not at all, Ben, I don't

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think Kansas is a national championship contender just yet because

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of the question mark with Peterson's health. And uh, look,

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I think Bill self is at the he's at the

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end of the ropes.

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Speaker 2: I think in the.

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Speaker 5: Next few years you could see that be it for him,

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and I know people guse Ronn's I probably know it's not.

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I think just away with these other programs and how

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they're how they're recruiting and how they're playing, and how

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everybody can pay fair market right now, Look, you couldn't

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even get the guy that was coming from Texas Tech,

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you know, and.

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Speaker 2: Darien Williams he went to NC State.

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Speaker 5: So I just feel like if you're losing out on that,

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Kansas will still get recruits because of the blue Blood.

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But I think they're gonna have to do some serious

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and it's crazy that I'm gonna say rebuilding, but I

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say that only because of Peterson's health. And how he's

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not available as much. I think there's still a lot

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of skin and left for Bill self. But right now,

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there are other programs I look at around the country,

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Ben not even in the Big twelve that I would

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pick over Kansas first.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is a premier matchup and we need the

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best of AJ Debonts in order to beat this Kansas

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Jayhawk team at fog Allen. In my opinion, and AJ,

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per Jeff Borzella and Maya Metcalf is the number two

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best player in college basketball right now. In their top

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fifty men's college basketball players at midseason, Debonsee picked Vway

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over the blue bloods that hope to sign the explodes

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to six fin nine athlete and is paying off Kevin

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Young's free flowing offenses position the Boston native divine for

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the number one spot in the twenty twenty six NBA draft.

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Averaging twenty three point six points per game, six point

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eight rebounds, three point five assists in one point three steals,

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de Bonsa has played like an All American while improving

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each week, evolving into a player who can impact games

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with or without the ball in his hands. His career

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high forty three points effort, and Saturday's rivalry win over

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Utah was an example of his growth. Now he had

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one of his worst performances though, at home versus u

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of a How will AJ react to that? Will we

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see another Talia Tory high energy declarative performance from AJ

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at fog Allen?

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Speaker 4: Do you think, Ronny.

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Speaker 5: I've thought about this a long way, Ben, and I'm

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not ready to give my prediction. I can say this,

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though we need a couple of data points. We had

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one against Utah. I will say this. I think he

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will be locked in. I don't think he'll shoot six

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or twenty four Kevin Young. When they lose, they bounce back.

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So there are a couple of your data points. I

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don't want to predict too big, but I think a

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J will show up against Kansas, no doubt. I think

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Rob Wright will show up. I think Boy's gonna go

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into fog out of the fieldhouse ready to play. It's

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gonna be a great game, and we'll see We'll see

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what happens. But yeah, I think AJ is gonna have

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an all time great performance. It's gonna feel like an

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elitiate atmosphere, Ben, it will feel like a Final four,

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just like it did on Monday. It could very well

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come down to the last possession. I would be shocked

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if it wouldn't. These are two good teams, very well coached,

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a lot of NBA talent. I mean what it was

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thirty one ben scouts. You have the right number of

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eighteen teams. I think the broadcast or thirteen, it's gonna

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be more than that at this I mean, for crying

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out loud, you're gonna have all thirty two teams there.

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How many scouts will be there is the question because

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everybody in their mom I'm serious, will be looking at this.

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Speaker 2: I just hope that everybody.

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Speaker 5: Look, I'm not trying to get sacrilegious, but I need

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every body past president in the future, you know, to

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be on BYU side and this because this is a

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game that BAU needs heavily been to answer a lot

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of questions. And if you do it on the biggest stage,

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I think that's what will put BYU Basketball into the

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conversations of maybe Elite eight now and maybe even Final

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four of you can get this game, because up until

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this point, it's not the Utah it's been. It's not

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the TCUs you haven't passed the test in Texas Tech

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or Arizona. Yet they need to pass this test Saturday,

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and I'm looking forward to see what they do.

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Speaker 3: I want to go with one last Saturday in our

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Speaker 4: It's creating a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit of buzz in the Big Twelve and in

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college basketball. Jerome Take always willing to appine, always willing

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to get an opinion on things that are occurring in

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college basketball.

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Speaker 4: Let's listen to.

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Speaker 3: The much discussed moment from drum takes postgame conference after

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they played West Virginia. He states, Kansas State should have

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three other players on their roster right now, but the

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MC double A is still playing.

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Speaker 1: You know, as as the head coach of this program,

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the CEO of it, to put together a team and

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build a program that will be on that level year

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in a year out. And I ain't figured that out

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yet because they keep changing the rules on me.

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Speaker 4: Right like.

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Speaker 1: Once they get the rules set right like, then I

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can have a consistent plan. Because there are three guys

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that should be on my roster right now that are

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not on my roster because the rules changed, okay, and

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and that's not even the guys who are injured.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So if they will give me consistent rules, then I

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know how to move forward and operate. And now we'll

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figure it out because I got a staff that we're relentless.

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We don't stop, you know. And so if we can

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bring G League players in, I want to do it.

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I want to find a judge in Kansas. That's gonna uh,

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that's in case they judge, that's that's that's gonna give

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us the you know, I mean that that's what they're

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doing elsewhere, you know, no matter whatever, they're gonna allow

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us to do. I want to do or stop everybody

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from doing it. And let's let's all proceed the same way,

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you know. And so I just just give me some

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consistent rules and we'll get it done. But we're gonna

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figure this thing out.

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Speaker 3: Gotta figure it out. Joam Tang going off on the

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at the up and Coming Coaches Clinic. All you coaches

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Speaker 3: To talk some Brigham football and just coaching in general.

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to confirm that Daniel Talmo we pay you, the brother

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Eastern Washington. Welcome to the family, Daniel tam We pay

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you what is Daniel tallmwoy pay you bring to the

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Cougar football team and the Cougar The Cougar family know

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he's a good football player. There's no doubt about it.

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He's I believe he comes in as a sophomore if

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I'm not mistaken. He remember he played high school football

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at Westlake six foot, two hundred and twenty pounds. He

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can play linebacker for the Coogs. We'll see how it

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all plays out. But let's get out to the hotline.

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Speaker 7: Hey doing great?

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Speaker 7: How are you doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing awesome as well.

475
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Speaker 3: Appreciate you joining us to talk some metrics today, and

476
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I want to lean into some of the data you've

477
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been pulling recently and you've posted it on X the

478
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ten most overrated team since twenty twenty ap preseason versus

479
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final poll figures. Who are the most overrated teams in

480
00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:05,640
college football during that time span, and what was the

481
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reason for deligan to the data this time.

482
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so you know, with the final A People coming out,

483
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I have a running tally of sort of did you

484
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start ranked? Did you finish ranked? In the A People,

485
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and sort of tracking that ever since they started doing

486
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,440
preseason rankings back in nineteen fifty in the A People.

487
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,079
And you know that's one of the things that you

488
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know BYU's pops at the the top of the list.

489
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I guess we're really good at people underestimating us. I

490
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guess is the best way to sort of phrase that

491
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that UYU is consistently over pretty much every time period

492
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that you look at seventy five years, fifty years, ten years,

493
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twenty years, UI's the most underrated. You know, we end

494
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up ranked more often than we start ranked, more than

495
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any other team. But this analysis was a little different

496
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because I didn't just look at you know, the AH

497
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,839
sort of byinary are are you ranked or not? Yes

498
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,200
or no? This was you know, where did you start

499
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,839
in the rankings and where did you end? And it

500
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wasn't you know, a perfect, super clean way to do it,

501
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because if you either started rinked or ended ranked. I

502
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just automatically gave everyone a rank of thirtieth in the nation.

503
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You know, obviously some finished in top of others receiving

504
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votes and should have officially been you know, twenty six

505
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or twenty seven, and others, you know, like Clemson were

506
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six and seven and didn't get a single vote in

507
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the poll, but started pre season number two, I think.

508
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But so, but like Clemson there, they would have started

509
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with a ranking of three but ended with a ranking

510
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of thirtieth because they didn't end up ranked. So I'd

511
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give them a thirty and that would be minus twenty

512
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eight eight points in this system. And so looking over

513
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the last six years, so since since twenty twenty, LSU

514
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was the number one most overrated team Clemson, Penn State.

515
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Actually don't have it, and I'm driving in my car now,

516
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I probably I should should I'm not going to look

517
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at my phone while I'm driving, but I'm able to talk.

518
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But do you do you have it up there? Yeah?

519
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Speaker 4: I let me let me pull it up really quick. Yeah,

520
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you mentioned.

521
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Speaker 7: LSU, USC was on there.

522
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Speaker 3: I recall was like Wisconsin, Texas and Penn State, USC, Florida, Oklahoma,

523
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,319
U n C, and UH and Oregon.

524
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Speaker 4: Uh So, out of those teams, what's what stands out

525
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:48,960
to you?

526
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Speaker 7: Yeah? So, I mean the first thing that stands out

527
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is there's not a single current Big twelve team in there,

528
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So you know, take that for what it's worth. You know,

529
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for for whatever a reason, most Big twelve teams don't

530
00:25:02,759 --> 00:25:05,839
get a lot of preseason high but are in their way,

531
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you know, higher in the rankings as well as we'll

532
00:25:08,319 --> 00:25:10,640
see on the flip side of that top ten or

533
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,680
the bottom ten list of of what we what we're

534
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,519
talking about now, there's a top ten of the most

535
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underrated teams. But the other things that pop out, I mean,

536
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you got your blue blood brand bias, and even within

537
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you know, most of them are obviously SEC and Big

538
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,960
ten teams, but there's I think, what was there two

539
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or three ACC teams. We had Clemson, we had u

540
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n C there. So yeah, there's there's there's for whatever reason,

541
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,839
teams in the East and in the sort of the

542
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,039
biggest two conferences tend to you know, the East or

543
00:25:50,079 --> 00:25:52,559
the Southeast tend to tend to be a little more

544
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overrated than teams out in the Mountain time zones tend

545
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to be. And then there's Oregon and USC which you know,

546
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,359
they they've always been on the little overrated side. And

547
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and you know Oregan's had great results, you know, especially recently,

548
00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:11,440
but earlier on in the in the last six years,

549
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,920
weren't weren't quite meeting their expectations.

550
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, we know, b Y, you severely underrated.

551
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,920
And it's it is what it is, right, the most

552
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,039
underrated team in.

553
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,039
Speaker 4: The college football. But uh, who are some of the

554
00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:30,440
team in basketball and basketball? Huh what is that? What's

555
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,960
your theory? I know we've discussed this more. What's your theory?

556
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,680
Have you have you uh? I mean have you gotten

557
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into it even deeper recently?

558
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's sort of a perfect storm in

559
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,039
the wrong way. It's it's all kinds of conscious and

560
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:51,000
uh or subconscious and real biases that sort of get

561
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,839
in there. And I'm talking about not just you know,

562
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,039
like a religious bias or a brand bias, but I'm

563
00:26:58,039 --> 00:27:02,359
talking about like population and like the population of your state.

564
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,200
The time zone. Teams that are in the Mountain time

565
00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:12,039
zone tend to get underrated quite frequently. And then religious

566
00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:17,000
schools and private schools in general get a little underrated

567
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:20,799
in general compared to public schools, but you know, and

568
00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:24,519
then BYU is a private religious school, so it's sort

569
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,640
of double one there. So it's sort of all of

570
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,440
them together that just sort of form a perfect storm,

571
00:27:31,599 --> 00:27:35,680
with BYU of being underrated, you know, like Northwestern is

572
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,799
one of the most underrated teams. TCU is usually one

573
00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:42,400
of the most underrated teams. So yeah, a lot of

574
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,160
times the private schools don't get quite the run and

575
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:53,640
the laudatory praise of AP voters either, you know, at

576
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least in the preseason.

577
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Speaker 3: It's crazy, man, it really is. You know, you have

578
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:04,519
these uh, these teams. It's picking it's picking helmets, right,

579
00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:06,559
It's picking brands, is what they're doing.

580
00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:10,279
Speaker 4: When will are we getting into an era? Okay?

581
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:12,519
Speaker 3: You look at the top most under top ten most

582
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:16,240
underrating teams b YU, Indiana, Ole, Miss, Tulane, TCU, Northwestern,

583
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,720
you to Boise State, Texas Tech, Houston, all these teams.

584
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,200
Most of these teams had good seasons. Indiana won a NATTI,

585
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:28,160
ole Miss was in the College Football Playoff and won

586
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:34,160
a game, right, and UH and Tulane got to the CFP. TCU,

587
00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:37,720
you know, I think finished strong. Boise State had their

588
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:40,359
down down year, Texas Tech obviously went to the CFP.

589
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:44,279
Houston had a great season. This is what makes me

590
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:47,519
optimistic about the future of college football, with the leveling,

591
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:50,240
the evening out of the playing field, so that the

592
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,920
power brokers, the blue bloods, the ones that have bought

593
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,119
and paid for this power structure, the college football cartel

594
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,799
and kabala, it can all come public down before our eyes.

595
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:06,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I would love to see the day.

596
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:10,599
But yeah, I mean, preseason rankings are here to stay.

597
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,519
You know, we will gnash our teeth and whine and

598
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:17,319
moan about them, but you know we love to gnash

599
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:19,039
our teeth and wine and moan about them. So that's

600
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:21,640
why they exist. And that's why you know they're going

601
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,279
for something to talk about, something to you know, engagement fodder.

602
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:29,799
I guess we could say, and you know, sometimes you know,

603
00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:32,799
I don't. I don't think they purposely over rank or

604
00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:37,160
under rank the team just just for clicks. But you

605
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,240
know there are these yeah, as you say, you know,

606
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,200
voting for helmets or logo, you know, logo brand bias.

607
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,759
That's a that's a real thing. And then it you know,

608
00:29:46,839 --> 00:29:50,039
goes into the other biases that are important, the anchoring

609
00:29:50,119 --> 00:29:54,319
biases where we we have these preseason teams that we

610
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,720
picked that we think are supposed to be good because

611
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,680
some combination of you know, there always good, or they

612
00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:04,720
ended good and they're bringing this back, or they got

613
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,960
these recruits and no, boy, they should just be monsters

614
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,880
this year. Usually your your blue bloods and your bigger

615
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,599
brands and your SEC teams are going to sort of

616
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,640
dominate with a lot of that preseason height from from

617
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,480
recruiting rankings, but with anchoring bias. I mean, yeah, we

618
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:24,759
expect these teams to do good, so we rank them

619
00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:27,319
in the top five. They may have to lose twice

620
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:29,880
before they fall out of the rankings. You know, they

621
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,680
can be three and two and have you know, three

622
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:37,200
pretty unimpressive wins, but still be in the rankings because

623
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,759
they were expected to be a top five team pre season.

624
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,400
I mean, and sometimes they end up being right, you know,

625
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:46,640
like Notre Dame. Weren't they one in two or two

626
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,079
and two or something early in the season, but still

627
00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:53,839
stayed in the rankings and of course ended right there

628
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,960
on the college football bubble, and you know, maybe MAYBEAP

629
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,240
voters were right to keep them there, you know, with

630
00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:04,640
those two relatively close losses, But you know, other teams

631
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,039
that don't have that big brand sort that don't have

632
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:10,240
that luxury and really have to sort of fight and

633
00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:15,839
claw and impress people with either lopsided victories or you know,

634
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:20,640
just beating you know, or upsetting some teams that they

635
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,720
they're just not supposed to be before they can even

636
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:25,160
break into the rankings. So it's, you know, it's sort

637
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,960
of the haves and the have nots and the rich

638
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:30,720
get richer with the preseason rankings and the anchoring bias

639
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:31,640
that occurs from that.

640
00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: What is to be done, Jeff Buller? In order to

641
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,960
make it all right? You know, do we just throw

642
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,039
the eight people out of it all? Do we get

643
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:43,519
rid of it? Did we just say, hey, these guys

644
00:31:43,559 --> 00:31:47,119
are credible, they never have been, they never will be.

645
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:50,759
Let's rid ourselves of this fodder.

646
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 7: Ah, that would be great, But again I just explained

647
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,920
why that's never gonna happen. We love it too much.

648
00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:01,960
Even if we're going to wine and moan, we we

649
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:04,839
love we love something to talk about and to beat

650
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,720
our chest. If you know, like, hey, we're going to

651
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,440
be like, hey, do I use preseason number twelve and

652
00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:13,240
the eight people? You know, that's like maybe close to

653
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,720
the highest ever. I think By has never been a

654
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:19,119
preseason top ten team. I don't believe even after coming

655
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:22,079
off the national championship year. I think they were preseason

656
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,799
number eleven or twelve or something like that. So and

657
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,960
again it looks like, you know, yet again, b why

658
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:32,799
you won't be in the preseason top and even with

659
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,720
a pretty you know, we're finishing what eleventh or twelfth,

660
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:39,319
and we're bringing back a lot with a good recruiting

661
00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:42,920
class too. So I think if we had a different

662
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,759
you know, if we had some longhorns on the side

663
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:49,480
of our helmet or a golden helmet, yeah, we'd be

664
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,799
you know, with what we're bringing back and where we finish,

665
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,079
we'd be a top you know, three four five team. Easy.

666
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:59,079
But you know, they just don't expect YU to do

667
00:32:59,160 --> 00:32:59,720
that or be that.

668
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: So Jeff, but I think we need an article about

669
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,759
this published on ESPN the fan.

670
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:06,519
Speaker 4: That's what we need.

671
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yep. I can flush out the data and yeah,

672
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,279
you know, the data goes back, you know, quite a ways,

673
00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:20,720
and it's I think it's very convincing that you know,

674
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,960
and you know to some degree this if you're always

675
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:30,240
ranked in the top ten preseason, it's hard to sort

676
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,960
of overperform. Like say you're ring number one preseason, you

677
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:37,960
can't overperform that, right, you have to finish number one

678
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:43,599
to sort of to be considered not overrated. And you

679
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,799
cannot conceivably be underrated when you start number one because

680
00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:51,799
you'd have to finish number one, so you can only

681
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,880
be overrated. So that's sort of what the other side

682
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,720
of the coin that, you know, some of these bigger

683
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,519
brands are things like, of course underrated. We're starting, you know,

684
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:03,960
starting at number five. It's hard to overperform that too much.

685
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,039
And if we have a horrible year, all of a sudden,

686
00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:09,360
we got this huge negative number. But when the same

687
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,960
teams keep popping up over every time period and by

688
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:17,880
big margins, you know USC, Notre Dame, Texas, Texas A,

689
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,159
and M, you know, those teams consistently pop up as

690
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:26,199
being hugely overrated over just about every time period. You

691
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,719
look at Notre Dame less so over the last ten

692
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,440
or twenty years actually, but some of those other teams

693
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,559
are just always there. Usc usc usc most overrated team

694
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:38,239
of all time.

695
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:40,559
Speaker 4: It's crazy, man.

696
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,039
Speaker 3: Well, I think BA is in a good spot BUA

697
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:47,360
is in a great spot all things considered, maybe they

698
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,239
can get over the hump. Maybe they can be you know,

699
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,920
you look at the national champions you know, the last

700
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,199
twenty years, it's hard to find a team anywhere near

701
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,400
the West Coast that is competitive and that wins Natty.

702
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's it's been a while trying to think.

703
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:14,000
Was it Reggie Bush or no, excuse me, a Texas

704
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:19,559
Tech And even I think USC's last national championship was

705
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:23,960
uh I think wasn't it right before that year or

706
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:26,559
right after that year with Matt Leonard or something? But

707
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,880
even that, I think when there there were some some controversy,

708
00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:34,800
some vacated wins or something. So some people even contest

709
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,880
that as you know, a national championship. But yeah, it's

710
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,840
it's tough to do for whatever reason. What's in the

711
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,840
playoff era CFP area era. It really you know that

712
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:53,800
geography shouldn't be a huge issue. But yeah, it may

713
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,719
just take time. Oregan's knocked on the door quite a

714
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,880
few times and never punched their way through. But both

715
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,719
yu can get there and do it. It's a I

716
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,159
don't think we're quite there. I think we're you know,

717
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,159
I really wish we just do do what Texas Tech

718
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,760
did and overspend for a couple just elite key linemen.

719
00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:15,480
You know, even you know, we got some great people

720
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:18,639
maturing through the program. But you know, if you get

721
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,239
one or two game wreckers on the defensive line and

722
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,360
a and a receiver who's just you know, an NFL

723
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,079
first round draft pick, you know, those those are a

724
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:31,880
couple of key pieces that all the all the top

725
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,719
teams tend to have. And I just I wish I

726
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,440
think we're just lacking a couple of pieces to break

727
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,960
through and really make noise in the playoffs. I'd love

728
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,280
to be proven wrong though.

729
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 3: Well, which what what do we miss it? What are

730
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,320
you what were you hoping for the portal oh specific edge?

731
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, just just a game wrecking defensive end. I mean

732
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,440
we've we've got good deep D tackles, but no one

733
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,000
who you know, you think of like Domingan su or

734
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:05,559
elite Lee Hunter last year for for Texas Tech. You know,

735
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:08,239
you think of David Bailey for Texas Tech on the edge,

736
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:14,159
you think of Baying for for Miami. You know, these

737
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,079
players that just couldn't be game changers, you know, and

738
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:20,840
sometimes it's just on you know, five or ten plays

739
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,320
through the game, but you know they're making you know,

740
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,559
wreaking have a there. And then these receivers, you know,

741
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,480
Indiana's receivers. You know, he got some first round guys there.

742
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,199
They're elite receivers with you know, I think we got

743
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:35,880
the quarterback who could possibly get us there. I don't

744
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,159
know if he's the tip top of the nation, but

745
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,239
he's he's definitely trending in that direction and I wouldn't

746
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,000
put it past him to take the next step. And

747
00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:47,519
uh yeah, I think we got I think we got

748
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:52,119
the skilled players except for maybe one elite receiver, you know,

749
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,800
just to stretch the field, you know, take it over

750
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,920
the top burner and then yeah, and then at defense

751
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:03,079
end and maybe a defensive tackle that are just elite

752
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:04,840
game wreckers.

753
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,199
Speaker 4: Would love to see it.

754
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:07,519
Speaker 7: You know.

755
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:11,639
Speaker 4: I think they feel pretty stacked right now, but you wonder.

756
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:14,039
I just know that's what I.

757
00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 7: Keep hearing that they're just they feel like they're stacked. Again.

758
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,679
I think there's lots of good talent and development. I

759
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,880
just I just don't think there's a first round draft

760
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,920
pick kind of guy game wrecker there, unfortunately. But I'd

761
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,480
love for them to prove me wrong.

762
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:33,559
Speaker 4: As I said, prove Jeff wrong.

763
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 3: Let's go all right, Jeff, We'll always appreciate our time.

764
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,280
We'll be looking for that article. We got to make

765
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,320
this thing go viral. The tweet is picking up steam.

766
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:49,760
I saw a number of high profile Twitter users quote it,

767
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:52,320
talk about it, so we got to keep this up.

768
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:56,360
It's the college football offseason, this is the time, this

769
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,039
is the place.

770
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, we appreciate We'll do all right, Ben.

771
00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: All right, thanks, Jeff, always appreciate our time. Our favorite

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Vitrio retinal surgeon, our favorite optimologists. He got out of

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clinic and came right over to the phone so we

774
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,760
could talk some Cougar football. That's what I love about

775
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