Speaker 1: Okay, let's dive right in. What if the history we
are taught, you know, the one we learned in classrooms,
What if it's actually designed not really to enlighten us,
but to to contain.
Speaker 2: Us, to keep us inside a box. Ye, it's like
that idea from the Zulu shaman Kredo Mutoa. He called
it the mind.
Speaker 1: Prison exactly that, the mind prison. And the implication is huge,
isn't it. If you control how people understand the.
Speaker 2: Past, you control what they think is possible. Now, Yeah,
absolutely real knowledge of where we came from, especially the
hidden parts, it becomes this incredibly powerful tool against well manipulation.
Speaker 1: Right because if you don't even know how the cage
was built, how can you possibly find the door out?
Speaker 2: You can't, which is why we're doing this today. This
isn't about tweaking the official timeline. We're talking about tearing
parts of it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And our sources for this deep dive, well they're
pretty explosive. We're pulling from ancient African oral traditions which
are incredibly deep, uh.
Speaker 2: Huh, and also suppressed spiritual texts things like the Gnostic writings,
plus some really challenging interpretations of history, things that suggest
human civilization didn't just evolve smoothly.
Speaker 1: No, it suggests there was intervention, targeted, profound intervention.
Speaker 2: And what we're trying to do is find the common threads,
the patterns that keep showing up in these really diverse accounts.
We're talking Africa, Mesopotamia, other.
Speaker 1: Places too, and the patterns seem to point towards well
non human involvement and this carefully built structure of.
Speaker 2: Power, a structure that might still be running things today.
That's the core idea.
Speaker 1: And right at the heart of this narrative we have
Credo Vusa Mazula Mutwa. He wasn't just telling stories. He
was a Zulusu Nusi.
Speaker 2: A shaman, a healer, yeah, seen as a guardian, someone
chosen to carry these incredibly deep, unwritten truths from African
oral tradition.
Speaker 1: Secrets passed down for who knows how long, and he
felt this immense responsibility. Didn't he to wake people up
to this forgotten history?
Speaker 2: He really did, and his core warning it basically forms
the spine of this exploration today. It's like a unified
theory of human history, connecting the dots.
Speaker 1: Dots from way back like Old Testament stuff, the sons
of God, the Nephilim.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those beings connecting that ancient history all the way
through to the dynastic bloodlines, the big power structures we
see running the world in the twenty first century.
Speaker 1: So strap in, because this journey suggests history isn't random.
It argues it's been managed, shaped by a hidden hand
for maybe thousands of years, and we're.
Speaker 2: Going to try and trace that hidden hand. Look at
the mechanisms of how this control might actually work.
Speaker 1: Okay, so where do we start to really get the
system of control? You have to understand what was supposedly
lost first, right exactly.
Speaker 2: Mutwah talks about this this original Golden Age, a time
before the intervention, when humanity was fundamentally whole.
Speaker 1: Whole in what way it sounds almost mythical?
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but the details he gives echo in a
lot of old spiritual texts. Actually, he claimed, original humans
weren't separated into male.
Speaker 3: And female, so like complete beings, ye, complete balanced beings
without that internal conflict, that dependency that drives so much
of our lives.
Speaker 1: Now on communication, how did that work?
Speaker 2: That's maybe the most critical part. It was pure, no
need for spoken words, which he argued, are actually quite limiting.
Speaker 1: So mind to mind, telepathy.
Speaker 2: Kind of sharing, pure thought images, understanding directly, heart to
heart as you put in, imagine a world with no
mechanism for lying because truth was just the default state.
Speaker 1: Wow, no deception possible, just pure understanding, harmony with everything earth,
the stars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, truth is the default setting. That concept alone is staggering.
Conflict wouldn't really be possible if you couldn't hide intent.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's the idyllic picture. Then what happened?
Speaker 2: Then came the shatter point? The arrival of the Chatari
that's the Zulu word meaning children of the serpent.
Speaker 1: And who were they?
Speaker 2: Mutwah described them as a reptilian race from the stars,
arriving in these blazing thunders as ships sky gods.
Speaker 1: Basically, and they weren't friendly visitors, not.
Speaker 2: According to this tradition. No, they didn't just conquer with force.
They fundamentally re engineered humanity biologically, psychologically. It was less
a military defeat and more like a clinical reprogramming, reprogramming.
How what were the steps? He outlines three core methods
they used to divide and conquer us methodical.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's the first one.
Speaker 2: The first and maybe the Deacas cut was sexual division.
They took that original complete human being and split it
into two separate sexes.
Speaker 1: Why what did that achieve for them?
Speaker 2: It introduced what moot Will called the hunger for union,
that constant, deep seated need to find your other half.
Speaker 1: Which creates dependency.
Speaker 2: Exactly, dependency, and right alongside that comes desire, rivalry, jealousy, possessiveness,
the whole unending struggle for dominance between the sexes that,
let's face it, define so much of human drama.
Speaker 1: That's incredibly cynical, but you can see the logic. If
you control that basic drive.
Speaker 2: You control a huge amount of human energy about it.
If you're constantly pouring your energy into finding a partner,
keeping a partner, competing for one, dealing with the heartbreak,
the jealousy.
Speaker 1: You're definitely not looking up and questioning the power structure.
Speaker 2: Precisely, your focus is perpetually drawn inward or towards your
immediate rival. It turns our deepest emotional needs, our most
personal pains into fuel for a system of distraction and suppression.
Speaker 1: So even something like a broken heart becomes political in
a way, a tool. Wow, Okay, what was the second method.
Speaker 2: The second was imposing hierarchy. The chatories set themselves up
as gods, demanded obedience.
Speaker 1: Immediately, so teaching humans to kneil.
Speaker 2: Literally kneel before authority submit to external imposed structures. They
crowned the first kings. According to Mutua, they appointed the
first priests.
Speaker 1: Ah, so replacing inner guidance, that intuition.
Speaker 2: With an external chain of command intermediaries, priests and kings
who answered to the juttoria, not the people, and relaid
their laws.
Speaker 1: So the first step divided us inside ourselves male female.
This one divides us socially, horizontally, rulers unruled exactly.
Speaker 2: It established the very idea of a subject class before that.
Maybe it didn't exist in the same way.
Speaker 1: Okay, division within division between. What's the third weapon?
Speaker 2: This one's maybe the most subtle, but Mutwah argued it
was the most defective. The deliberate introduction of spoken language.
Speaker 1: Wait, language, isn't language seen as this great evolutionary leap,
a gift?
Speaker 2: Not in this context. Mudwall saw it as a calculated severance,
a downgrade. Remember that pure mind to mind communion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the direct understanding.
Speaker 2: Spoken language by its very nature is limited, it's symbolic.
If filter's thought, it broke that direct connection.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I see where this is going. We
use language now obviously it allows for connection, but there's
always that gap, isn't there between what I mean to
say and what you actually hear or understand exactly.
Speaker 2: Words introduce misinterpretation and ambiguity, nuance and the deliberate bending
of meaning, and that ambiguity is a potent political weapon.
Speaker 1: It creates confusion.
Speaker 2: Mootwak called it the fog of confusion, kind of mental enchantment.
Once thoughts have to be squeezed through these limited symbols words,
clarity is compromised. We stop having direct knowledge and start
relying on interpretations.
Speaker 1: And interpretations can be manipulated.
Speaker 2: Easily, especially by those who control the definitions, who control
the narratives, who control the media spreading the words. It
guarantees that even when people try to unite or talk
about big ideas like freedom, they're often using the same
words but meaning fundamentally different things.
Speaker 1: Which keeps them divided, ensures unity is always just out
of reach.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, you see this playing out constantly, don't
you think about modern politics?
Speaker 1: Legal scissors absolutely the jargon, the legalese. It feels designed
to obscure, not clarify. You need a special class of interpreters, lawyers,
pundits just to figure out what's being said.
Speaker 2: And that maintains the hierarchy right. It keeps the population
dependent on the interpreters instead of trusting their own understanding.
It's like the Chattori's original system flaw just keeps perpetuating
itself through language.
Speaker 1: So the end result of these three steps division hierarchy
language is basically conflict, confusion, and servitude, all driven by
these engineered internal splits and external misunderstandings.
Speaker 2: That's the picture of what pains a descent from wholeness
into a carefully managed fragmentation.
Speaker 1: So, okay, humanity is now fractured, divided, sexually confused by
language organized under kings and priests who answered to these
Sutari gods. What happens next? What's the endgame for the Chatari?
Speaker 2: Well, according to Mutwah, the next phase was pretty brutal
and direct, literal physical exploitation using humans as a resource
like slavery. Yes, his accounts talk about our ancestors being
forced into actual bondage, made to work deep underground, mining
minerals in the dark.
Speaker 1: For what purpose? Building humans civilization?
Speaker 2: No, not for human benefit. The labor serve the mysterious
purposes of the sky gods, their technology, their needs, maybe
their wealth.
Speaker 1: And this is where we start seeing overlaps with other
ancient stories, right Mesopotamia.
Speaker 2: Exactly the Sumerian Cuneiform tablets. Depending on how you interpret them,
they describe the Ananaki, another group of sky gods, fashioning
Homo sapiens us specifically for a purpose which was to
bear their burden, specifically mining gold, whether it was gold
or other minerals. Like in Mootoh's account, the core idea
is chillingly similar across these vast.
Speaker 1: Distances, that humanity was viewed, maybe even engineered, as an
obedient workforce, a project designed for physical labor treated as
a resource.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, But the physical bondage, the mining, that was
just one layer. The systems of control went much deeper
into the mind, the spirit. How so, we'll think about
the divine right of kings, that concept where is their
authority come from.
Speaker 1: From God or the gods, not from the people right.
Speaker 2: Which means the kings and priests weren't accountable to the
population they ruled they were only accountable to the gods, who,
in this narrative, were the Chatari.
Speaker 1: So it baked unquestioning obedience right into the political and
religious structure.
Speaker 2: Absolutely all the power symbols, the elaborate rituals, the temples,
the altars. Muku argued they were designed with one purpose
to teach humans to kneel, to look outside themselves for authority,
for divinity.
Speaker 1: Instead of trusting their own inner truth, their own connection
to spirit.
Speaker 2: Exactly, systematically externalizing authority, that's how you secure servitude over millennia,
make people believe power lies somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Okay, physical labor, mental conditioning, through hierarchy and religion. Is
there another layer, Yes, and.
Speaker 2: This is where it gets even darker, perhaps harder to grasp,
the energetic layer.
Speaker 1: Energetic what do you mean?
Speaker 2: Mutois spoke of the Jatari feeding not just on Earth's minerals,
but on human emotion, specifically negative.
Speaker 1: Emotion, feeding on emotion.
Speaker 2: How he suggested that states of conflict, despair, intense, fear, grief, rage,
these powerful, chaotic human feelings actually generate something, something invisible
yet vital, a kind of energy.
Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds strange, but does it connect to anything
else other traditions.
Speaker 2: It connects incredibly strongly with certain suppressed traditions. We have
to bring in gnosticism.
Speaker 1: Here, right. The Gnostics they had a different view of
the creators, didn't they?
Speaker 2: They did. They spoke of the Arkans, not necessarily physical reptilians,
but more like cosmic jailers, beings who manipulate thought and
perception from another dimension.
Speaker 1: Almost And what was their goal?
Speaker 2: According to the Gnostic texts, the Arkans thrive on ignorance
and illusion. They actively work to keep humanity trapped in
cycles of fear, materialism, and conflict. Why because those states
generate the very sustenance they need.
Speaker 1: So it's a similar idea to what was Chatari feeding
on negative emotion.
Speaker 2: It's incredibly similar. If the Chatari were the architects who
built the prison, dividing us, infusing us, then maybe the
Arcons are like the guards who feed off the prisoner's
misery and confusion.
Speaker 1: This psychic energy. Is there a name for it?
Speaker 2: In some modern esoteric circles, it's sometimes referred to as lunch.
The idea is that intense, chaotic, especially negative human emotion
creates this kind of energetic byproduct.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's pause on that. If this is true, even hecothetically,
why would controlling fear be the most effective long term
strategy for these.
Speaker 2: Controllers Because fear shuts down higher reasoning. It's primal. When
you're constantly in a low level state of anxiety or
survival mode, worrying about money, your job, the next crisis,
political instability, war, even just conflict with your neighbors, your
perspective narrows dramatically. Your critical thinking centers in the brain
are suppressed. You become reactive, not proactive. You're predictable, easily suggestible,
easily herded. Your higher aspirations, your connection to something bigger,
they just wither.
Speaker 1: It's like, if your mind is instantly filled with the
noise of fear and distraction, you never have the quiet space,
the mental energy to step back and look the structure
that's generating the fear in the first place.
Speaker 2: Exactly. You become a reliable engine churning out this negative
emotional energy, this lutch that the sources suggest the controller's harvest.
It's a terrifyingly elegant self sustaining system.
Speaker 1: They inject division and fear, which creates the negative emotional energy,
which feeds the controllers then.
Speaker 2: Have the power to inject more division in fear. It's
a closed loop.
Speaker 1: And we power it ourselves, essentially funding our own captivity
with our fear and anger.
Speaker 2: That's the chilling implication. And the only way to break
that loop, theoretically is to stop generating the fuel, to
stop reacting with fear and hatred.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is heavy stuff, the idea of Reptilian chatari
Arcon's feeding on fear. It sounds like sci fi or mythology,
But the power in Mutwa's account comes from the fact
that these aren't just isolated Zulu stories are They.
Speaker 2: Not at all? That's what makes it so compelling or disturbing,
depending on your view. You find fragments echoes of these
core ideas non human intervention, external God shaping humanity scattered
across totally different cultures, separated by vast distances.
Speaker 1: In time like where. Give us an example.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to West Africa. Molli, the Dogon people.
They have one of the most incredibly preserved a complex
oral traditions known.
Speaker 1: And what does their traditions say?
Speaker 2: They talk about visitors They called the Nomo.
Speaker 1: The nomo who are they.
Speaker 2: Described as amphibious beings, part human, part fish? Maybe? And crucially,
they came from the sky descended in a great rotating oncasion.
Arc is often the translation.
Speaker 1: Okay, sky beings again? Were they like the chatari enslavers?
Speaker 2: This is where it gets interested. Now. The Dogon tradition
portrays the Nomo as benevolent teachers, culture bringers, teachers.
Speaker 1: What do they teach?
Speaker 2: They came supposedly from the Serious Star system, and they
shared knowledge, advanced.
Speaker 1: Knowledge, like what kind of knowledge?
Speaker 2: This is the part that has baffled researchers for decades.
The Noma alleged told the Dogon intricate details about the
Serious System, specifically about Serious B.
Speaker 1: Serious B. Isn't that the tiny, incredibly dense star orbiting
the main one Serious A, the one that's invisible to
the naked eye, exactly.
Speaker 2: A white dwarf star. Modern astronomy only confirmed its existence
and its bizarre properties, it's fifty year orbit around Serious A,
its extreme density relatively recently using powerful telescopes and complex calculations.
Speaker 1: But the Dogon knew how.
Speaker 2: According to their sacred tradition passed down for centuries, Panomo
told them their sky teachers gave them this knowledge, along
with insights into agriculture, social organizations, spiritual laws, teaching balance.
Speaker 1: So completely different feel from the Chatari narrative teachers not enslavers.
Speaker 2: Right, which raises a huge question. Was the intervention multifaceted?
Were there different groups of star visitors with different agendas,
Some exploitive like the Chatari or Ananaki focused on resources
and control.
Speaker 1: There is maybe more like guardians or guides like the Nomo,
trying to help humanity develop.
Speaker 2: That's one possibility. Or maybe yeah, maybe these are all
fragments of the same core memory of sky visitors, just
filtered through different cultural experiences. Perhaps for the ancestors of
the Dogon, the interaction was primarily positive, focused on knowledge sharing.
Speaker 1: Whereas for the ancestors in Mutwah's lineage or the Sumerians,
the experience was one of subjugation and forced labor.
Speaker 2: It could be different facets of a complex ancient interaction.
Speaker 1: Are there other examples besides the Dogon?
Speaker 2: Oh yes, let's jump across the Atlantic to the American Southwest.
The Hopie people another culture with an incredibly ancient, continuous
history and deep oral.
Speaker 1: Traditions, and they talk about the.
Speaker 2: Katinas sometimes described as spirit being, sometimes as tangible visitors
from the sky or from within the earth.
Speaker 1: Kachinas and what was their role similar to the nomo?
Speaker 2: Very similar in many ways that kachinas are seen as guides, guardians,
sometimes stern teachers. They taught the Hopey principles of balance, agriculture,
spiritual law, how to live in harmony with the world.
Speaker 1: So again a teaching role not necessarily enslavement correct.
Speaker 2: But the Hopi tradition also includes a strong prophetic element
which links back very closely to the themes of division
and consequence that Mutwah emphasized. Esso the hope you speak
of cycles of creation and destruction. Different worlds are ages,
and they say that kikina is often withdraw or the
connection is lost when humanity falls into corruption, greed, spiritual
division and forgets the sacred laws when we lose balance.
Speaker 1: So our collective state influences the interaction.
Speaker 2: That's the core message. And they have prophecies about signs
marking the end of the current world age leading to
a time of great purification or transformation. The most famous
is the prophecy of the Blue Star Kachina.
Speaker 1: Right, I've heard of that signaling a massive shift.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not just ancient history for the Hopee,
it's a living prophecy, a guide for navigating these cycles, suggesting,
and the interaction with these others is ongoing and conditional
on human consciousness.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's try to synthesize this. We have mitwahs Chatori,
the reptilian slavers. We have the Sumerian Onunaki, the engineers
needing miners. We have the dogans Nomo, the amphibious teachers
from Sirius, and the Hopi's Kachinas, the spirit guardians warning
about balance.
Speaker 2: Different cultures, different continents, different descriptions, yet striking common threads.
Speaker 1: Non human intervention is a core theme advance knowledge being
shared or withheld in a sense that human history, human
destiny was profoundly altered by contact with these beings, for
better or worse.
Speaker 2: It really makes you wonder, doesn't it. Are these just
separate myths or are they puzzle pieces of one enormous shared,
hidden history, a history where our development wasn't purely homegrown.
Speaker 1: Especially when you see the specific parallels like the Sumerian
bearing the burden and the Zulu tradition of forced mining.
It points back to that darker narrative. For many, the
arrival of the gods meant work, labor dependence, a.
Speaker 2: Global pattern of intervention viewed through different cultural lenses.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if we accept this premise, even just for exploration,
that there was this ancient intervention, maybe by different groups,
leading to systems of control, the big question is how
did that control last? The Jatari ships aren't parked outside
the UN building now, the Ananaki aren't openly running mining operations, right, how.
Speaker 2: Do you maintain control over millennia, especially after the overt
physical presence withdraws. This is where Motwa's account and many
other interpretations of hidden history points to one specific mechanism. Bloodlines.
Speaker 1: Bloodlines you mean like genetics exactly.
Speaker 2: The theory is the original controllers, whether Reptilian, Tatari or others,
didn't just leave. They installed a proxy system. They interbred
with humanity. Uh.
Speaker 1: Back to the genesis story, the sons of the gods
and the daughters of men, creating the Nephelim.
Speaker 2: Precisely, that story, found in various forms across cultures, is
interpreted not as myth, but as a record of hybridization.
These Vaneck liber descendants carrying the controllers' genetics were then
placed into positions of power. They became the ruling class.
Speaker 1: So the controllers withdrew from the front lines, but left
their agents in charge their family.
Speaker 2: Essentially, that's the core idea. This would explain the intense
obsession throughout history with dynastic lineage, aristocracy, royal blood. It
wasn't just about maintaining social status. It was about preserving
a specific genetic.
Speaker 1: Inheritance through carefully arranged marriages, keeping it in the family.
Speaker 2: Quite literally, yes, strict mandated unions to ensure the purity
of the line. And this is where that term blue
blood takes on a potentially different, more literal meaning for
some researchers.
Speaker 1: Not just meaning nobility, but possibly a coded reference to
non human ancestry, a different biology, maybe subtly affecting blood
chemistry or appearance.
Speaker 2: That's one controversial interpretation. Yes, that this lineage star order
with the pharaohs and ancient emperors has continued unbroken, maybe
weaving through European royalty, powerful banking dynasties, and even into
the controllers of major global corporations in media empires today.
Speaker 1: And the symbols you mentioned serpents and dragons earlier exactly.
Speaker 2: Proponents of this theory point to the prevalence of serpents, dragons, reptiles,
and royal coats of arms, ancient religious iconography, even hidden
in corporate logos. They see these not just as random symbols,
but as markers, badges of identities, signifying this ancient hidden
lineage connected to the Reptilian shatory or similar beings.
Speaker 1: Okay, but hang on. History is full of revolutions, overthrown kings,
massive shifts and power. How does a secret bloodline maintain
control through all that chaos? Didn't things like the French
Revolution or the rise of democracy break that aristocratic power.
Speaker 2: This is where the theory gets even more intricate and
grafts disturbing. According to this view, the real power isn't
just in holding the throne, it's in shaping the systems.
Speaker 1: The systems like economic.
Speaker 2: Political exactly, finance, banking, resource control, international law, intelligence, networks,
media narratives. The idea is that this hidden aristocracy, these
interconnected bloodlines, work behind the scenes to ensure these global
systems are always structured to benefit their networks, regardless of
who appears to be in charge.
Speaker 1: Politically, So revolutions and wars might just be surface noise,
managed events.
Speaker 2: That's the controversial suggestion. Managed conflicts, events that seem like
radical change on the surface, that king is deposed or
public is declared ideologies clash might actually be carefully orchestrated transitions.
Speaker 1: Controlled demolition.
Speaker 2: Like you said before, kind of you remove the figureheads,
you allow for the appearance of change and popular uprising,
maybe even fund both sides of a conflict, But the
underlying architecture, the systems of debt, the control of essential resources,
the flow of information remains intact. It's just inherited by
a new face, perhaps even a seemingly revolutionary leader, who
is nevertheless connected to or controlled by the same underlying network.
Speaker 1: So the public see is a fight between left and right,
or monarchy versus republic.
Speaker 2: But behind the curtain, the deeper structure of control is preserved,
maybe even strengthen by the chaos and restructuring. It's a
way to manage societal pressure and evolution without ever losing
fundamental control.
Speaker 1: If that's the mechanism hidden bloodlines managing global systems through
controlled conflict and division, then it forces us to look
at ancient stories of division in a new light, like
the Tower of Babel.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's reexamine Babel through this lens. What's the conventional story.
Speaker 1: Humanity was united, speaking one language, building a tower to
reach the heavens. God saw this as arrogance, punished them
by confusing their languages and scattered them across the earth,
prevented them from reaching heaven.
Speaker 2: Okay, now apply the Chatari control framework. Humanity united, speaking
one language, working together with clarity and common purpose.
Speaker 1: That sounds it's like the opposite of what the controllers
would want. Based on what mcwas said, unity is a
threat to their system.
Speaker 2: Precisely that original state of clear, direct communication and unified action.
That's the state that Jittai supposedly worked so hard to
fracture with sexual division and imposed language in the first place.
A united humanity reaching for the stars. That sounds like
a direct challenge to the imposed hierarchy.
Speaker 1: So the confusion of tongues at Babel wasn't divine punishment
for arrogance.
Speaker 2: In this interpretation. No, it was a deliberate strategic intervention,
a linguistic weapon deployed to prevent human unity, to prevent
humanity from potentially reclaiming its power or challenging its limits.
It was divide and conquer on a massive scale.
Speaker 1: Break their communications, scatter them, and sure they can't effectively
organize against the rulers.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Division guarantees compliance, Fragmentation ensures dependence on interpreters and leaders.
Babel seen this way isn't a story about God's jealousy.
It's blueprint for maintaining control by shattering unity.
Speaker 1: Wow, it paints the same picture again, doesn't it. Whether
it's Mootwise, Tatari, the Ananaki, or the God of Babbel,
the story involves an advanced external force actively working to
limit and divide humanity for control.
Speaker 2: The methods might differ direct invention, genetic manipulation, linguistic sabotage,
but the goal maintaining an enduring rain by keeping humanity fractured,
seems consistent across these disparate traditions.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the control shifted from overt gods and kings
to these hidden bloodlines managing systems. But how does that
translate to today? How does the control manifest in the
twenty first century? It feels different now.
Speaker 2: It is different, but perhaps only in its mask. The
methods have become subtler, more sophisticated, arguably more insidious. The
shift from ancient overt control you know, literal chains, crowns,
bine right, to modern system of control is maybe the
master stroke of this long term agenda.
Speaker 1: Goal remains the same though.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, keep humanity divided, keep us fearful, keep us distracted,
don't let us unite, don't let us wake up to
our own power.
Speaker 1: So what were the steps in this modernization of control?
How did it evolve past just bloodlines and banking.
Speaker 2: Well, the twentieth century saw the rise of a powerful
new weapon, the centralized narrative, delivered through.
Speaker 1: Mass media, radio, cinema, then television.
Speaker 2: Exactly Suddenly, it didn't need a king on a balcony
or a priest in every town square. You could shape perception,
manufacture consent, to find reality for millions centrally.
Speaker 1: So media became the new pulpit, the new throne.
Speaker 2: In many ways, yes, it became the primary instrument to
justify wars, create enemies out of thin air, steer entire
populations towards fear or patriotic rage, sell consumerism as happiness,
all dictated by who owned the networks and printing presses.
Speaker 1: The constant news cycle. It does feel like a form
of conditioning, doesn't it keeping you numb reactive.
Speaker 2: MOULTOI might call it constant numb conditioning, preventing deep reflection,
training us to accept the reality presented by the authority
figures on the screen.
Speaker 1: Okay, so mass media was a big step, but the
twenty first century brought something else entirely, didn't it? Something
far more personal and pervasive?
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, the fragmentation engine, what we commonly call social.
Speaker 1: Media fragmentation engine. That's a strong term, why fragmentation. Didn't
it promise connection, global community?
Speaker 2: That was the surface promise, the bait connection and democracy.
But the deeper design, the actual function of the algorithms
that run these platforms. It's arguably the perfection of the
babble strategy.
Speaker 1: How so go deeper on that.
Speaker 2: Think about how it works. It's not just broadcasting one
message to many like old media. It's personalized. Every click,
every like, every share, every pause, it's all tracked, measured, analyzed.
Speaker 1: We build a profile of you.
Speaker 2: An incredibly detailed psychological profile, and what do the algorithms
do with that profile? They feed you content designed to
do one primary thing, maximize your engagement, keep you scrolling,
keep you reacting.
Speaker 1: And what kind of content maximizes engagement most effectively.
Speaker 2: Content that triggers strong emotions, outrage, validation, fear belonging, and critically,
content that confirms your existing biases.
Speaker 1: Ah the echo chamber effect exactly.
Speaker 2: The algorithms quickly figure out what you already believe, what
tribe you belong to, and then they feed you a
constant stream of information that reinforces those beliefs and validates
your tribe. Simultaneously, they often show you the most extreme
or caricatured versions of the other side.
Speaker 1: Which makes dialogue impossible worse than impossible.
Speaker 2: It actively breeds polarization. It deepens your certainty in your
own rightness, and widens the gulf between you and anyone
who disagrees. People aren't just receiving different opinions, They're increasingly
inhabiting entirely different perceived realities, fed by opposing algorithms.
Speaker 1: Guaranteeing conflict, ensuring we see each other not as neighbors
with different views, but as alien, incomprehensible, often dangerous enemies.
Speaker 2: It perfectly fulfills the old formula divide into digital tribes.
Distract with endless scrolling and outrage dominate by keeping the
population fragmented and unable to unite against the system. It's
babble two point zero implemented through code, And.
Speaker 1: The truly insidious part is we participate willingly, eagerly.
Speaker 2: Even That's the genius of modern control, isn't it. We
carry the tracking devices in our pockets. We voluntarily feed
the algorithms or deepest thoughts and fears. We allow the
constant digital noise to drown out quiet reflection or critical thinking.
Speaker 1: We mistake the feeling of being connected online with actual
understanding or community, even as the technology is actively designed
to isolate us.
Speaker 2: In these filter bubbles, we become, in effect willing agents
in our own fragmentation. It fulfills the archon's agenda, perfectly
maximizing illusion, maximizing conflict, minimizing clarity.
Speaker 1: And underpinning all of this modern division, just like the
ancient kind is fear.
Speaker 2: Fear remains the most potent tool. Fear of missing out,
fear of the other side winning, fear of economical l
fear of illness, fear of irrelevance. It keeps us locked
in that low level survival mode. Generating the lich, generating
the energetic fuel yes, and keeping our higher cognitive functions empathy,
complex problem solving, unity building offline. When you're constantly reacting
to the latest manufactured crisis or online outrage.
Speaker 1: You never see the bigger picture. You never question who
benefits from all this chaos. You're too busy fighting the
digital shadows.
Speaker 2: You're fighting the distractions, never the puppet master pulling the strings.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we've traced this potential hidden history from ancient
interventions dividing humanity through bloodlines, maintaining control via systems, to
modern media and algorithms perfecting division and distraction. It's a
pretty bleak picture. Is there an antidote? What's the way out?
According to Moltwawh and these sources.
Speaker 2: Well, the first and most crucial step, according to Mootwah,
isn't necessarily storming the castles or fighting the system externally.
The primary battleground is internal. It starts with awakening.
Speaker 1: In the mind, seeing the pattern exactly.
Speaker 2: Recognizing the mechanism. The one thing a system based on
illusion and hidden control supposedly cannot withstand is clarity. When
you clearly see the pattern, divide, distract, dominate, operating in
the world and in your own reactions, it starts to
lose its power over you.
Speaker 1: You can't unsee it, right.
Speaker 2: You can't unsee it. And that knowledge shouldn't lead to
despair or paranoia, because that's just more fear, more lutch
for the system. It should lead to a grounded sense
of empowerment.
Speaker 1: How so, what do you do with that awareness?
Speaker 2: The goal becomes stepping off the track, recognizing that so
much of what passes for normal life might be an
incredibly intricate game designed to keep you occupied, fearful, and
running in circles. Freedom begins when you consciously choose not
to play that game on the controller's terms.
Speaker 1: Anymore so, reclaiming your energy, your focus.
Speaker 2: Precisely, and this starts with what we could call the
path to reunification, reversing the original.
Speaker 1: Fractures, reunification internally and externally.
Speaker 2: Both internally, it means doing the work to align your mind,
your body, your spirit, healing those inner conflicts, moving towards
that sense of wholeness that what described as our original state,
Overcoming the program divisions within yourself and externally. Externally, it
means actively consciously refusing the artificial divisions that the system promotes,
refusing to let categories like race, religion, political ideology, nationality
turn potential allies into enemies based on.
Speaker 1: Labels, choosing connection over conflict, understanding over knee jerk hatred.
Speaker 2: Every single time you choose common ground, empathy or genuine
dialogue over polarization and demonization, you are actively dismantling the
babble programming. You're choosing wholeness over the engineered fracture.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense conceptually, but what does it look
like in practice? What are the daily actions someone can take?
The small revolutions.
Speaker 2: Muttlah in similar traditions, emphasize very practical, grounded actions, things
that seem simple but directly counter the system's grip by
aligning you with that original.
Speaker 1: Wholeness like what give us a list?
Speaker 2: Okay, First and foremost, reclaiming your attention. This is maybe
the front line of the battle in the twenty first century.
Your focus is the currency the algorithms and media machines desperately.
Speaker 1: Want, so limiting screen time, being mindful of consumption.
Speaker 2: Yes, consciously choosing to limit the noise, stepping away from
the endless scroll, scheduling periods of actual silence, digital detoxes.
Every moment you reclaim your focus is a moment you starve.
The distraction machine makes sense. What else reconnecting with nature?
Go outside, get away from the artificial environments. Let the
silence and the rhythms of the natural world re order
your spirit. It reminds you of an intelligence and an
order far older and deeper than the man made systems
of control.
Speaker 1: Grounding yourself and nourishment crucial.
Speaker 2: Choosing nourishment wisely. And that's not just food, although choosing real,
unprocessed food is part of it. It's also about the
energy you consume, the news you watch, the conversations you
engage in, the people you spend time with. Are they
draining you with negativity and fear or nourishing your spirit?
Consciously choose nourishment. Cut off the supply lines to negativity.
Speaker 1: Okay, attention nature, nourishment.
Speaker 2: What about our own output? Absolutely guarding your thoughts and words?
Remember the Chattori supposed weaponization of language. The anecdote is
conscious creation. Choose your words with intention, speak truth, speak kindness,
speak clarity, and become aware of your habitual thought patterns.
Are they based in fear, lack judgment. Your thoughts and
words are powerful. They literally shape your reality. Stop contributing
to the fog of confusion with careless or negative speech.
Speaker 1: So taking responsibility for the energy we put out exactly.
Speaker 2: And finally, two very physical things, breathing with awareness and
moving your body. Why breathing conscious breathing is an anchor.
It pulls you immediately out of anxious thoughts about the
past or future and into the present moment, the only
place where your true power exists. It's a bridge back
to yourself health, to that inner divine spark. Ye movement, stagnation, physical, mental,
energetic is surrendered. The system thrives on inertia and passivity.
Moving your body, whether it's walking, dancing, stretching, whatever, it
breaks up stat and energy releases stress, keeps your life
force flowing. It's a declaration of vitality.
Speaker 1: So these small daily acts guarding attention, connecting with nature,
choosing nourishment, mindful speech, breathing, moving worth they're not just
self help.
Speaker 2: Tips in this context, they are acts of profound defiance.
They are ways of reclaiming your sovereignty moment by moment.
They align you with the wholeness The controllers allegedly tried
to fracture.
Speaker 1: And this brings us back to Moutwah's core assertion, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: It does that the ultimate conflict, the real war, wasn't
ever truly about land or gold or resources. It was
and still is a battle for the human soul, for
our awareness, for our connection to that original, unbroken divine
spark within us.
Speaker 1: And that spark, that's the one thing they can't control.
Speaker 2: It can't touch it unless we forget it's there, unless
we let the fear in the distraction convinces that we
are small, powerless, and alone. That's the only way they win.
Speaker 1: So wrapping this all up, we've journeyed through this vast,
often hidden history, from potential ancient engineers like the Chatari
and Ananaki, to the gnostic idea of Arkhan's manipulating perception,
right up to the modern fragmentation engine of social media
and systemic control.
Speaker 2: It's a narrative of a long rain, possibly starting before
recorded history. Maintain through that consistent pattern, divide the population,
distract them with conflict and illusion, and dominate through fear
and engineered systems.
Speaker 1: But the crucial takeaway, the thread running through Mutwah's warnings,
and these suppressed texts seems to be about where true
power lies.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Every system of external control, ancient or modern, has
one fundamental goal to convince you, the individual, that your power,
your freedom, your answers lie somewhere else outside of yourself,
in a leader, a system, technology, a savior, anywhere but within.
Speaker 1: And the moment you stop believing that, the moment you
remember your own inherent sovereignty, your own inner connection.
Speaker 2: The prison doors swing open. Because the entire mechanism of control,
according to this view, relies entirely on one thing. Forgetting
that the key has always always been inside you.
Speaker 1: So the final thought we want to leave you with
this week, something to really mull over.
Speaker 2: If this entire complex system of control ultimately depends on
your fear and your distraction to generate its power, what
would your life actually look like, feel like become if
you consciously refuse to surrender even one more moment of
your genuine, focused, sovereign attention to it.
Speaker 1: Think about that. Actively guard your focus this week. Choose
awareness over anxiety, connection over conflict. See what happens. Let
that be your quiet, personal, and perhaps most powerful act
of defiance.