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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 1>on New Year's Eve, taking one more day off this

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<v Speaker 1>holiday season, So we're gonna present the best of the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider going into the new year, and a

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<v Speaker 1>reminder that tomorrow night we're gonna present a special edition

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<v Speaker 1>as we look back on the year twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a huge year in UK sports. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>relive the highlights coming up tomorrow night on The Big

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Insider. But tonight we're going to take you back

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<v Speaker 1>to a conversation I had with ESPN's Jimmy Dikes after

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's comeback win over again Zaga Ada in Seattle. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a game Jimmy worked, and he talked with us one

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<v Speaker 1>night on the Celebrity Hotline about the Cats and the

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<v Speaker 1>Zags year on the Best of the Big Blue Insider. Jimmy,

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<v Speaker 1>I know there was a long trip out there. You guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you were rewarded with one heck of a game, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, He's one of the great games so far this year,

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<v Speaker 2>and any you get a chance to do a game

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<v Speaker 2>between two of the great national brands out there, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky becomes AGAs is also you know, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>one of the strongest brands in the college game right now,

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<v Speaker 2>you jump on the chance and did delivered and it didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It did not look like at halftime it was going

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<v Speaker 2>to deliver it because our producers, I mean the halftime,

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<v Speaker 2>our producers literally asked me to me, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>see anything changing this game? I said, no, oh, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see any I saw nothing in the first half.

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<v Speaker 2>That said, Kentucky has an answer for this. But uh man,

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<v Speaker 2>they did, and man, what a what a great game

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<v Speaker 2>to watch, I'm sure from the second half of that overtime.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, before we break it down a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>just quickly give me I don't know that we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>in a while, and I'm just curious about your reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>And I follow you on Twitter, of course, But when

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky hired Pope, when all this happened and he had

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<v Speaker 1>to cobble together a team like a jigsaw puzzle, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what was your reaction? Because I always talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you know, of all the analysts out there,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, you know Kentucky better than anybody because you've

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<v Speaker 1>lived it and you appreciate the tradition at all. But

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<v Speaker 1>what was your what was your response when all this

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<v Speaker 1>happened here in Lexington.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know, because you guys are very aware

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<v Speaker 2>of the names that were thrown around and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>out out of left field comes to Mark Polks and

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<v Speaker 2>this of your life, hump, that's an interesting hire. But

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<v Speaker 2>then as the twenty four hour period went by, and

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of dug into to what he's done and

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<v Speaker 2>started listening to all the things that he understood about

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky basketball and like big Blue Nation. And within twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four hours that's think Flip Man, how they went from

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<v Speaker 2>this is not a great hire to we hired the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that's going to put us back on the map.

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<v Speaker 2>And then so far, so good they have they've been right,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know he was He's exactly what Kentucky needed

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<v Speaker 2>right now. The guy that comes in and completely gets

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<v Speaker 2>the value of that Kentucky jersey, the fure that teams

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<v Speaker 2>the state, the expectations. He hasn't ran from it. He

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<v Speaker 2>knows the pressure. But there's it's a it's a perfect fit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for for a Kentucky program that is desperate

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<v Speaker 2>to get back to being who Kentucky basketball supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And so far they have this year.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think of what he runs and how

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<v Speaker 1>his team runs it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>They have great belief in their system, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>great starting point. You know, they understand exactly how they're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to play. If you're going to shoot thirty or

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<v Speaker 2>more three point shots the game, then you have to

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<v Speaker 2>make ten or eleven the game to make it pay off.

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<v Speaker 2>And they have not shot the ball well over the

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<v Speaker 2>last three games. Now. They delivered in the second half

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<v Speaker 2>against Gonzaga, but more importantly, that offense got things done

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<v Speaker 2>on the inside. And I talked about during the game,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't jump shoot your way back from sixteen downing

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<v Speaker 2>it's the top ten team basically on their floor. And

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<v Speaker 2>Mark started calling play and he went heavily with Andrew

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<v Speaker 2>Carr and then when he too went out. It kind

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<v Speaker 2>of worked after their benefit because Kentucky became bigger on

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<v Speaker 2>both ends of the floor. And now the matchup problem

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<v Speaker 2>that was was really something for Gonzaga to have to

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<v Speaker 2>work to on both ends. And you know, Mark does

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<v Speaker 2>what a great coach does. You got to find a

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<v Speaker 2>way to change the game, and he changed the game

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<v Speaker 2>with that one three one zone that it really just

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<v Speaker 2>it was a one three one to start with, but

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<v Speaker 2>after the first pass or once the ball got.

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<v Speaker 3>Blowed the free throw line then went manda.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, but it completely through Gonzaga off of their rhythm

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<v Speaker 2>and change the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like in the first half, Jimmy Gonzaga was

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<v Speaker 1>more aggressive, more physical, kind of played Kentucky out of

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<v Speaker 1>his shoes a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Did it seem that way to you, No doubt, Man,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the you know, that was the blueprint watching

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<v Speaker 2>the Clemson films. Yeah, from you bike from Gonzaga's standpoint

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<v Speaker 2>was We're just gonna be physically these guys and blow

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<v Speaker 2>up all that dribble hand off and make sure we're

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<v Speaker 2>out on shooters and bumping them.

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<v Speaker 3>And it worked.

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<v Speaker 2>It worked to a sixteen point leads, and Gonzagia was

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<v Speaker 2>doing anything they wanted, especially off that ballscreen action with

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<v Speaker 2>neim Hart and the Graham k Kentucky had no answer

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<v Speaker 2>for it. But man, the things changed within that first

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<v Speaker 2>two minutes of the of the second half. Because gonzag

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<v Speaker 2>is really good. I mean, they're ranked inside the top

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<v Speaker 2>twelve and this week's ap pole I mentioned that during

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<v Speaker 2>the game that this week's ap pole your national champion

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<v Speaker 2>is somewhere within that top twelve. It's been that way

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty straight years, and it's not a guarantee, but

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<v Speaker 2>about as close to a guarantee as we have in

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<v Speaker 2>the college game predicting a national champion. And thankfully for

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky fans and Gonzaga both they're both inside that top

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<v Speaker 2>twelve this week in college basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>You talked about it on the air, you mentioned it

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<v Speaker 1>a minute ago. But Mark Pope started calling plays and

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<v Speaker 1>changed the game a little bit. Obviously going to Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Carr and he tried to get a little bit done

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half, but I felt like he just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of, as the expression goes boat his neck, he

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<v Speaker 1>just went to work, didn't he in the second half?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And yeah, he had the game. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hard to It's just kind of hard to defend. He's

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to say that it's an awkward game,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's so big, strong, physical, you know, you can

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<v Speaker 2>move him around different spots on the floor and he

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, he kind of I think he was the

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<v Speaker 2>first one early in that second half that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and if we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Down, we're at least going to go down with pride

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<v Speaker 2>and fight and being the aggressor, and it went from

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<v Speaker 2>him to Jackson Robinson and he had to move to

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<v Speaker 2>the point and everything everything clicked. So I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>was a really I mean, it's hard to say like

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<v Speaker 2>which win really establishes a head coach with the program,

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<v Speaker 2>but that might be the one when you look back

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<v Speaker 2>on his hopefully long career as the head coach of

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky that it kind of solidified we got the right guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what you mentioned, point guard. I was

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the pregame show and heard Tom Leech talking

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<v Speaker 1>with Mark Pope. When Pope and that's Nola mont Butler.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of dropped my shoulder. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>there goes that game because I didn't see honestly anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky with them heart are so good. How are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to disrupt Gonzaga at all? And then get into

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<v Speaker 1>your offense with that Butler. At what point did you

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<v Speaker 1>guys find out on TV side that Butler wasn't going

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we pretty much knew it to shoot around, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're yeah, we're privy to obviously a lot of information,

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<v Speaker 2>and they trust us and we're not gonna say a word.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not that we're not into breaking news like that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was like you at halftime, I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's kind of what we thought. We don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a little butler the best defensive point guard out there

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<v Speaker 2>and them Hart's doing whatever he wants. But it's funny

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<v Speaker 2>how you kind of fall into things sometimes as a

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<v Speaker 2>coach or a team. When when Kirk Crisa went out

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<v Speaker 2>and he was forced to put Jackson Robinson up up

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<v Speaker 2>top as a primary ball handler, Kentucky got really big

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<v Speaker 2>on both ends of the floor. They had match up

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<v Speaker 2>problems working to their advantage, and they just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>fell into it. I don't think Mark will play a

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<v Speaker 2>heavy lot of minuts going forward with that lineup, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's sure. It's good to know that, man if we

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<v Speaker 2>get if we get in that pinch, we have a

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<v Speaker 2>bigger lineup we can play.

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<v Speaker 3>And it worked really well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know when Kentucky fans were studying this new roster

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<v Speaker 1>and they were so relieved. Frankly, when Jackson Robinson signed on,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a real shock tested the waters. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>they may have expected and this is for lack of

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<v Speaker 1>a better term. You can help me with this, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe they were looking for a flashier game man,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe from a guy who you know might be NBA ready.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not his style. But I think what we saw

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<v Speaker 1>against Gonzaga is what I mean. That was him at

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<v Speaker 2>The second half was the best he's played in the

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky Jersey. You know, he did not start at BYU.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the sixth Man of the Year and led

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<v Speaker 2>BYU in scoring. He's not just a guaranteed next level

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<v Speaker 2>NBA guy, but he showed signs in that second half

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<v Speaker 2>that he can handle the ball, he can make some

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<v Speaker 2>tough shots. Obviously Kentucky needs him to continue to shoot

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<v Speaker 2>better from the three point line like the team does overall.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's a cool story that once he

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<v Speaker 2>threw his name, there was no question where he was going.

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<v Speaker 2>And he told us before the game that Cody Feger,

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<v Speaker 2>the assistant coach, and Mark Pope changed his life. And

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<v Speaker 2>you like guys like that that will just believe in

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<v Speaker 2>the head coach. The head coach has great belief in him,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a really good coming out party for

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<v Speaker 2>him in the Kentucky Jersey. In that second half.

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<v Speaker 1>More with Jimmy Dikes here on the Best of the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Bo Insiders six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Best of the Big Blue Insider. We're talking with Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Dikes's basketball analyst for ESPN. He has written the film

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't Lie and hosts the Coach Me Up podcast. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course Jimmy just a few years ago and assistant

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<v Speaker 1>coach at Kentucky. Wow. I hate to think about how

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<v Speaker 1>many years we go back there, but more more than

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<v Speaker 1>a few. But uh, I know, and you you you've

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<v Speaker 1>done some coaching since then, but you're enjoying what you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing for ESPN. How far ahead do you have your schedule?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have Kentucky coming up at all?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I have them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think my next time I have him is in

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<v Speaker 2>early in conference play when Texas A and M comes

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<v Speaker 2>goes out. I think that's like maybe the tenth of

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<v Speaker 3>We we we we send it.

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<v Speaker 2>We team tend to get about a month out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>where they want us to go, so I'll certainly be

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<v Speaker 2>following Kentucky. It's you know, it was a great two

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<v Speaker 2>basketball and big Glue nation and the passion that they have.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, there's a there's a small percentage of

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky fans that get after all of us on Twitter sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>but that doesn't represent who the true Kentucky fans are.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>They they love the team that I think, they appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>honest analysis on their games. They want to be told

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<v Speaker 2>the truth and I try to do that and call

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<v Speaker 2>the game down the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>When Kentucky's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the first one to say they're good when they

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<v Speaker 2>but when people ask me when I'm traveling, where's your

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<v Speaker 2>favorite place to go to a basketball game? I say

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky just because of all the dynamics of Ruff Arena

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<v Speaker 2>and the fan base and always sold out and you

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you made reference to the Kentucky fans in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they always say Blue gets in and when

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky was doing well, you know your director was picking

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<v Speaker 1>up shots of the UK fans. I know that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>surprise you, what all did it?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Kentucky can play in Russia and let's go,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go. Blue Chants going to break out at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just that's who they are.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a great atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, a lot of times you watch games they say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like an Elite eight. No, not really, that

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<v Speaker 2>one did because it wasn't fifty to fifty. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Kentucky fans in there. Obviously a huge

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<v Speaker 2>amount of Gonzaga fans. Both were loud at the time

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<v Speaker 2>that they, you know, had the momentum going. But you

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<v Speaker 2>just saw, like I said, two teams that are legitimately

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<v Speaker 2>Final Four contenders going at it in early December, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's great to be a part of that game.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, getting back to that second half and you you

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<v Speaker 1>course on the air, and Jack Gibbons was delighted to

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<v Speaker 1>see the one three one because job hall uh snuck

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<v Speaker 1>that in every now and then. Of course with Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Scheidler running the baseline, it was such a great athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>But did you have any idea that that one three

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<v Speaker 1>to one was coming? Did you see it and shoot around?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I have to admit I don't get to go

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<v Speaker 1>to practice much. I've been to a few, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>not seen them work on that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not see it and shoot around in the

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<v Speaker 2>four or five practices i've actual practices I've seen in

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky this year, I haven't seen it. But you got

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<v Speaker 2>to do something to change the game. And at times

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<v Speaker 2>it was at times it confused Gunzaga. In times Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>was confused a little bit running it like who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be wearing? They let the guy wide open in

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<v Speaker 2>the corner on one missed assignment. But that's okay. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the beauty of the game. And for your guys to

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<v Speaker 2>believe in something when you at halftime say okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>is what we're gonna do defensively, and they go out

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<v Speaker 2>and execute up believing it. And that's that's all you

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<v Speaker 2>can ask if you're a fan of Kentucky basketball, is

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<v Speaker 2>how much do they believe in their head coach? And

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<v Speaker 2>I got to think to a man that they think

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<v Speaker 2>that Mark Pope is the greatest coach right now in

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<v Speaker 2>college ball, and that's exactly what you want, right Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's interesting people. I think I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>to some folks who it seemed like they had this

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<v Speaker 1>impression of Marcus this neophy, you know, this this this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a newbie head coach. He's new to the

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<v Speaker 1>UK job, of course, but he has a solid resume.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what he did at Utah Valley State, what

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<v Speaker 1>he did at bring him young. Both programs overachieved. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not like in terms of just his basketball acumen,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like he came in you're all wide eyed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just just reflect him. Back in the

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<v Speaker 2>first half of con Zaga was going away, he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>look any different than the first half, and he did

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<v Speaker 2>the second half when it was going his way. He

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<v Speaker 2>just has a calmness and a belief and a confidence

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<v Speaker 2>about who he is and how he coaches and how

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<v Speaker 2>he sees the game. And you know, he took his

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<v Speaker 2>BYU team into ball Gallon Kield House last year Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>and the one it wasn't a great Kansas. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a great Kansas team, But not very many people go

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<v Speaker 2>in there and get a win. He was never a

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<v Speaker 2>phase at goun zagaon and he will not be.

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<v Speaker 3>Phased this year.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, Kentucky's coming off of a two games

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<v Speaker 2>road swing. That's going to be exactly what they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to face in the SEC high high level games, competitive, physical,

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<v Speaker 2>loud crowds. And this week was the best. This past

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<v Speaker 2>week is the best thing Kentucky could do for himself

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<v Speaker 2>to go play at Clemson and basically at Gonzaga and

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<v Speaker 2>now you know, going into SEC play, Hey, we we've

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<v Speaker 2>been down this road before. We know how to handle

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you mentioned that during the first half

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<v Speaker 1>what happened at Clemson. You know, with that atmosphere down

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<v Speaker 1>there here Kentucky's coming to town. You've been a part

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<v Speaker 1>of that as a member of the coaching staff. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the circus arrives and Clemson just hauled off and

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<v Speaker 1>punched him in the mouth. And and that paid off,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no doubt. And yet you've got to be knocked

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<v Speaker 2>around a little bit to understand how to play through

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<v Speaker 2>it right because Gonzag had the same game plan. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not as physical as Clemson. They tried to be, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're not. Yeah, and I think that's a big part

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<v Speaker 2>of why Kentucky said, you know, we've seen this before.

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<v Speaker 2>We can handle this. Unless they got rolling. Man, they

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<v Speaker 2>they got rolling. They they played a great second half

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<v Speaker 2>and Jackson Robinson had a ton of confidence when Mark

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<v Speaker 2>puts the ball in his hands and everybody just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of fed off of it. So now they got I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I think they're off all wee cantill to

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<v Speaker 2>play Louisville on Saturday, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to say anything about that game. It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Louisvill is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville's not what they're going to be under Pat Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's going to be a great fit for

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<v Speaker 2>that program. I was with him in Atlanta during Thanksgiving week.

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky will be heavily favored. But man, you take nothing

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<v Speaker 2>for granted in that game. And Mark Pope, he understands

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<v Speaker 2>that game better than anybody else out there. So Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>should be fine in terms of are we ready to play?

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<v Speaker 1>They've actually got Colgate on Wednesday night, but come on, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they can work some things out there. With

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<v Speaker 1>all due respect. A couple of minutes left with Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Diyke's of ESPN worked at Kentucky again Zaga game. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've been talking about Mark Pope, the head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has talked about the fact that he changed

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<v Speaker 1>his tone as a coach. He went from being you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of wear you down kind of guy. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no way he's going to be another Rick Patino, but

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<v Speaker 1>he went to the more of the uplifting, positive style.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jack Gibbons in the postgame interview talked to one

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<v Speaker 1>of the players about the fact that Jack and they

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<v Speaker 1>sat opposite from you guys, they were on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the bench side. He could hear Mark even when they

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<v Speaker 1>were down. Pope kept yelling we're okay, We're okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you if you could hear any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of rare, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is, But I mean that's who Mark is

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<v Speaker 2>at his core.

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<v Speaker 3>He's sent to.

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<v Speaker 5>A positive energy, stable, confident guy and who he is

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<v Speaker 5>and as a dad, as a husband, as a coach,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think he realized about ten years ago that

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<v Speaker 5>trying to be maybe something that he's not wasn't working,

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<v Speaker 5>and then his players were playing out of fear and

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<v Speaker 5>trying to please him and not for the right reasons.

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<v Speaker 5>And now he's, uh, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>He's changed. He's he will still get on.

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<v Speaker 2>Him some I've seen him do that, but he does

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<v Speaker 2>it with a tenderness and a tone that that you

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<v Speaker 2>have to have in that balance between toughness and tenderness. So,

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<v Speaker 2>uh man, it's it's all good right now. With that

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<v Speaker 2>put your basketball program and miss Barnhardt knocked it out

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<v Speaker 2>of the park with his hires.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there going to be some tough times? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>That SEC coming up Tennessee is awfully good. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you've seen them yet, but I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>league has gotten so competitive. Jimmy and the money. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they're spending on facilities, coaches, staffs, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's finally what the SEC thought it was for quite

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<v Speaker 1>a while. But now it's a grind, especially with Texas

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<v Speaker 1>and Oklahoma joining.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was the lone soldier there for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I kept saying the SEC is the best conference in

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<v Speaker 2>college basketball. I got a lot of pushbacks, but I

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<v Speaker 2>stood firm because I knew what I saw and I

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<v Speaker 2>knew what was coming. And it is clearly this year

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<v Speaker 2>through the first week of December. The most dominant league

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<v Speaker 2>in college basketball and maybe historically one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>dominant league. Now they have to finish out in non

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<v Speaker 2>conference like they've done. But when Joelnaradi, who's pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>at his job, project twelve teams the SEC for the

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<v Speaker 2>NCAA turn that that would that would be a history,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be a historical year.

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<v Speaker 3>For the league.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're Kentucky, you know you're gonna get knocked

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<v Speaker 2>around some an SEC play. That's that's that's just part

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Dick.

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<v Speaker 2>If the sc camp SEC champion is going to have

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<v Speaker 2>four or five six losses, I don't know, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going to be a two or three lost

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<v Speaker 2>champion This year.

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<v Speaker 1>The league too good, Yeah, because I mean Alabama and

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<v Speaker 1>Auburn are out there. That's gonna be fun. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>one year Kentucky under Joe b had five won the

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<v Speaker 1>conference with five losses, but the depth wasn't there the

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<v Speaker 1>way it is now. So uh, tell everybody where they

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<v Speaker 1>can see you on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm next.

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<v Speaker 2>My next game is at the former number one team, Kansas.

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<v Speaker 2>They lost too in a row, which is announced. You're

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<v Speaker 2>like seriously, like you're number one and then you go lose.

425
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<v Speaker 3>Two in a row. But still I thought Fall.

426
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<v Speaker 2>Gallon is one of the great great places to a

427
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<v Speaker 2>college basketball and they take on NC State, who got

428
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<v Speaker 2>hot last year made for the Final Four, and then

429
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<v Speaker 2>actually stayed the next day and do the women's game

430
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<v Speaker 2>Kansas versus Penn State. So yeah, two games in two

431
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<v Speaker 2>days and then come home. I think that's that. Because

432
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<v Speaker 2>it's finals week for a lot of teams. I'm up

433
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<v Speaker 2>again until next Saturday with wake Forest at Clemson. I

434
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<v Speaker 2>go right back to Clemson, who I think is really

435
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<v Speaker 2>really good. That's not a damaging loss to Kentucky's resume. Clemson,

436
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<v Speaker 2>they could end up being the top two or three

437
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<v Speaker 2>in the ACC. So good team you got, I know.

438
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<v Speaker 1>That was my conversation with former Kentucky assistant now TV

439
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<v Speaker 1>analyst Jimmy Dikes, who worked the Kentucky Gonzaga game in

440
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<v Speaker 1>Seattle earlier this season. More the Best of the Big

441
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<v Speaker 1>Blue Insider when we come back here on six point

442
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<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP, welcome back to the Best of the Big

443
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<v Speaker 1>Blue Insider, joining us on our celebrity hodline as a

444
00:20:43.519 --> 00:20:45.680
<v Speaker 1>guy who has actually been right here in the garage

445
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<v Speaker 1>in front of him. He's been on the celebrity highline too,

446
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<v Speaker 1>but coach Keith Madison usually here with the chain gang.

447
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<v Speaker 1>But you're you're kind of special people now, coach, because

448
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<v Speaker 1>you're an author, you've written a book. Tell me all

449
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<v Speaker 1>about this.

450
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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's it's been a fun experience. I really enjoyed

451
00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:07.359
<v Speaker 4>the writing process. And the name of the book, Dick

452
00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:13.720
<v Speaker 4>is Coaching with Purpose, and basically it's trying to help

453
00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:17.079
<v Speaker 4>coaches avoid some of the mistakes I made. But it's

454
00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:21.160
<v Speaker 4>not all about that. But uh, it's it's a book

455
00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:26.640
<v Speaker 4>that hopefully helps coaches win on the on the field

456
00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:30.519
<v Speaker 4>or on the court and off the court with their athletes.

457
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<v Speaker 4>I just I just think that coaches, Yeah, they're paid

458
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<v Speaker 4>to win, but they have such an opportunity to impact

459
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<v Speaker 4>their athletes and in a positive way because they spend

460
00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:49.480
<v Speaker 4>so much time with them, and because if if you're

461
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<v Speaker 4>if you're a decent coach, a good coach, they're going

462
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<v Speaker 4>to listen to you. So you can impact these young

463
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<v Speaker 4>people and help them to become better husbands but wives

464
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<v Speaker 4>be are citizens. I just think that coaches have this

465
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<v Speaker 4>golden opportunity to make an impact that's perhaps bigger than

466
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<v Speaker 4>they even know.

467
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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel like you were not tuned into that

468
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<v Speaker 1>when you first got started. I got to assume you

469
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<v Speaker 1>were kind of overwhelmed by the job itself because you

470
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<v Speaker 1>had so much going against you. But this sounds like

471
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<v Speaker 1>something coach that has dawned on you through the years.

472
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<v Speaker 4>You're exactly right. I think when I first started coaching,

473
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<v Speaker 4>I really loved my players. I had a great group

474
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<v Speaker 4>of young men, but it was it was it was

475
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<v Speaker 4>all work, and I didn't talk to them as much

476
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<v Speaker 4>about important things off the field as I should have, probably,

477
00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:49.200
<v Speaker 4>although I still have great relationships with those guys. But

478
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<v Speaker 4>I just think that you know, these coaches that whether

479
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<v Speaker 4>you're a college coach or a minor league hitting coach

480
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<v Speaker 4>or a little league coach, you know, it doesn't matter.

481
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<v Speaker 4>You have influence on those people you coach. And I

482
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<v Speaker 4>think that young people need that discipline and that structure

483
00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:17.960
<v Speaker 4>that they have at practicing on the field, but they

484
00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.960
<v Speaker 4>also sometimes are a little bit lost when it comes

485
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<v Speaker 4>to things off the field.

486
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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm wondering about a challenge you might have

487
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<v Speaker 1>faced when you first began, because that's when I first

488
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<v Speaker 1>met you. When you started coaching at Kentucky. You know,

489
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<v Speaker 1>relatively speaking, how old we are now, you weren't that

490
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<v Speaker 1>much older than the guys you were coaching. I got

491
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<v Speaker 1>to think that had a lot to do with it.

492
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think so, you know, I was, I was

493
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<v Speaker 4>twenty six years old, and my first baseman was twenty

494
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<v Speaker 4>two years old and my second basement was twenty two

495
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<v Speaker 4>years old. Wow, I just you know it. But I

496
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<v Speaker 4>think because they had such a tough year of the

497
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<v Speaker 4>year before. Uh, I think they were they were looking

498
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<v Speaker 4>to win, and they were looking to turn it around.

499
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<v Speaker 4>And I had just played professional baseball, uh two or

500
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<v Speaker 4>three years before that, and so they thought that was

501
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<v Speaker 4>kind of cool. And they felt like I could relate

502
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<v Speaker 4>to them, and I felt like I did.

503
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<v Speaker 3>Relate to them. Uh.

504
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<v Speaker 4>And we had son. You know, we worked hard, so

505
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<v Speaker 4>we had son, and we uh gosh, we got to

506
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<v Speaker 4>know each other because we had to. We had to

507
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<v Speaker 4>take trips to places like Athens, Georgia in vance. Yeah,

508
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<v Speaker 4>and we didn't we didn't take a bus. We took

509
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<v Speaker 4>you know, about three vans and and John Butler drove one,

510
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<v Speaker 4>I drove one, and an equipment manager drove the other.

511
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<v Speaker 4>And and we're heading down I seventy five, and and

512
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<v Speaker 4>it was amazing because I think you and I've talked

513
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<v Speaker 4>about this before, but we we would get to the field,

514
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<v Speaker 4>and let's just use Georgia as an example. We get

515
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<v Speaker 4>to the field at ten thirty or eleven o'clock in

516
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<v Speaker 4>the morning and take battie practice and do all the

517
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<v Speaker 4>pregame activities and then play a game and then get

518
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<v Speaker 4>in those vans and drive back to Electington. It was exhausting,

519
00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:19.279
<v Speaker 4>but when you're twenty six or twenty seven years old,

520
00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:22.200
<v Speaker 4>it's that big a deal. I guess we but that's

521
00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:24.359
<v Speaker 4>what I really got to know those guys. You know,

522
00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:27.119
<v Speaker 4>I've spent time talking to him in those vans, and

523
00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:31.279
<v Speaker 4>they felt comfortable with me, and I felt really comfortable

524
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<v Speaker 4>with them. But it's those kind of relationships that are

525
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<v Speaker 4>so special that coaches have an opportunity to experience.

526
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<v Speaker 3>You know.

527
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<v Speaker 4>I was in touch on a regular basis with my

528
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:47.319
<v Speaker 4>little league coach up until the day he died. He

529
00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:49.720
<v Speaker 4>actually called me the day he called me the day

530
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<v Speaker 4>he passed away, right, and you know, and the impact

531
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<v Speaker 4>he had on me as a kid, and then my

532
00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:00.119
<v Speaker 4>high school coach was he was a great guy. He

533
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<v Speaker 4>had a tremendous impact on me. I just want other

534
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:06.720
<v Speaker 4>coaches to leverage that and know that they have it.

535
00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:10.799
<v Speaker 4>And winning is awesome and that's what we need to do.

536
00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:13.640
<v Speaker 4>It's a lot more fun when you win. But you

537
00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:16.440
<v Speaker 4>can win on the field and you can win with

538
00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:19.559
<v Speaker 4>the players off the field, and that's doubly special.

539
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<v Speaker 1>You played for and coached with a lot of different coaches,

540
00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and I got to think writing this book made you.

541
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<v Speaker 1>You know, and you just talk about how much you

542
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:32.359
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed it, but you know, sit back and reflect on

543
00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.440
<v Speaker 1>what you learn from them, what they may have learned

544
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:39.440
<v Speaker 1>from you. I mean, you know, this had to have

545
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<v Speaker 1>been a great trip down memory lane.

546
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<v Speaker 3>No doubt.

547
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<v Speaker 4>And that's exactly why it was fun, because I started

548
00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:49.720
<v Speaker 4>remembering things that I hadn't thought of in years, like

549
00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:53.519
<v Speaker 4>this one experience I had with Russ Nixon. He was

550
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<v Speaker 4>a manager. Dug Flinn and I both played for US.

551
00:26:56.200 --> 00:27:00.839
<v Speaker 4>Great manager, tough guy played. He was a catcher for

552
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.200
<v Speaker 4>the Red Sox, played with Ted Williams and all that.

553
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:07.559
<v Speaker 4>But I respected him so much so I had a

554
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.799
<v Speaker 4>really bad outing one night. I was the closer on

555
00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:13.799
<v Speaker 4>the staff, and uh, he called me into his little

556
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:16.640
<v Speaker 4>office there at all Little Past Stadium the next day

557
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:19.599
<v Speaker 4>before we did our workout, and I thought, man, this

558
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:23.279
<v Speaker 4>is not going to go good because he was a

559
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.039
<v Speaker 4>tough guy and and you know, as a minor league

560
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:28.680
<v Speaker 4>do you never know whether a bad outing is the

561
00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:32.359
<v Speaker 4>last time you'll ever pitch right. And so he calls

562
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.160
<v Speaker 4>me in and he had a really serious look on

563
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:36.680
<v Speaker 4>his face. And I'm not going to say it over

564
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.680
<v Speaker 4>the air, but he said, Madison, you were a horse.

565
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:45.240
<v Speaker 4>You could fill in the blank. And he said, uh,

566
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:47.720
<v Speaker 4>he said that that was that was just a terrible

567
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:51.079
<v Speaker 4>outing last night. I thought, oh, boys, that.

568
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:53.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

569
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:57.640
<v Speaker 4>And but then he said this, he said, but you're

570
00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:01.960
<v Speaker 4>my closure, and if you go out tonight, I expect

571
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:05.359
<v Speaker 4>you to to be the best closer in the Florida

572
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:09.680
<v Speaker 4>State League. And man, he just I mean that listed me.

573
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:12.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, he he ripped me a little bit and

574
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:17.559
<v Speaker 4>I deserved it, but then he made me feel so special.

575
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:21.279
<v Speaker 4>And sure enough, I go out out that night and

576
00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm throwing gas and I'm feeling good because Russ Nixon

577
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:29.680
<v Speaker 4>believed in me. And that's such a that seems like

578
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:32.839
<v Speaker 4>such a simple thing, but when coaches believe in athletes,

579
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.680
<v Speaker 4>sure they can do so much more.

580
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:39.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've never coached really at your level. I'm

581
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:41.039
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of little league here and there, but

582
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:45.119
<v Speaker 1>I've managed people through my career, and and looking back,

583
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>there a couple of times when I thought, you know,

584
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:50.279
<v Speaker 1>I just never got through to this guy, and I

585
00:28:50.440 --> 00:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>probably should have just parted ways with him, uh because

586
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't because I thought, well, I'll be laying

587
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>another problem on somebody else, and it's my problem to

588
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>manage all that kind of stuff. Did you ever think

589
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>in those terms. I got to think there were some

590
00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:07.799
<v Speaker 1>players you just couldn't get through to and maybe somebody

591
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:08.319
<v Speaker 1>else could have.

592
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean,

593
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<v Speaker 4>I would be lying to you, Dick, if if I

594
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:17.359
<v Speaker 4>told you that I connected with every player that I coach.

595
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:20.440
<v Speaker 4>That just doesn't happen, because there's always this thing called

596
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:25.240
<v Speaker 4>personality that that can that can cause you not to connect.

597
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.559
<v Speaker 4>You know, maybe that maybe that young man or that

598
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.680
<v Speaker 4>young woman they just they just don't want to spend

599
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:36.279
<v Speaker 4>time with you. But that that does happen. But I think,

600
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:40.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, the coach's job is to is to get

601
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:44.920
<v Speaker 4>the best possible out of that particular athlete. And if

602
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:48.119
<v Speaker 4>you have to bite your tongue a little bit and

603
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:51.279
<v Speaker 4>eat some mumble pie. You know you got to do that.

604
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:55.039
<v Speaker 4>But your job is to get that young person to produce.

605
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:59.000
<v Speaker 4>And uh, if we if we go about our jobs

606
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:02.160
<v Speaker 4>that way, it's going to be better. And then I've

607
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.920
<v Speaker 4>had this happit for Dick or you do that and

608
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:07.799
<v Speaker 4>maybe you know that that player doesn't like you, yep,

609
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:11.119
<v Speaker 4>but you just keep you just keep on pouring into

610
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:16.160
<v Speaker 4>him and try to add value to not only his

611
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:19.799
<v Speaker 4>his skills, but also add value to his life. And

612
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:21.680
<v Speaker 4>if you just keep doing that, I mean, some of

613
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:25.680
<v Speaker 4>those people are the best friends I have right now.

614
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:30.079
<v Speaker 4>That the relationships started off a little top, little rocky,

615
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.359
<v Speaker 4>but then you just keep pouring into him and things

616
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:36.119
<v Speaker 4>turn around, and that's when it's really rewarding.

617
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:40.079
<v Speaker 1>Interesting coach, I appreciated. We will talk more about this

618
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:42.559
<v Speaker 1>when the rest of the chain gang joined you here

619
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:44.559
<v Speaker 1>in the garage, But tell everybody where they can find

620
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:46.039
<v Speaker 1>that book. Is it out yet or we are we

621
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:49.119
<v Speaker 1>ready to recommend it for stocking stuffers?

622
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:50.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

623
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:52.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's just coming out next week. And as a

624
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:55.759
<v Speaker 4>matter of fact, today I want to be putting the

625
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:59.200
<v Speaker 4>links on my website and you can go to my

626
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:03.920
<v Speaker 4>website web site coach Keithmadison dot com and you'll be

627
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 4>able to find a link there on how to order

628
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.680
<v Speaker 4>the book. And I really appreciate you asking me about it, Dick, no.

629
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<v Speaker 1>Problem, Always enjoy talking with you. Thanks, coach. Have a

630
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>great holiday and we'll talk soon here in the garage.

631
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Dick, thank you.

632
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Want to come on the Best of the Big Bloon

633
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Sider here on six thirty WLAP. You're listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>Best of the Big Bloon Sider. I'll take you back

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<v Speaker 1>to Thanksgiving week of last month. We got some stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss. First of all, what Colorado beating Yukon, second

637
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<v Speaker 1>ranked team in the country and Danny Hurley going off

638
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<v Speaker 1>on the sidelines once again, and he has really taken

639
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:47.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of flak for that as well he should.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, it's the second time he has gone ballistic

641
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<v Speaker 1>on the sidelines over the officials.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I know coaches have troubles with refs, but this is

644
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<v Speaker 1>kind of ridiculous. Kansas beats Duke seventy five seventy two,

645
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<v Speaker 1>and if it weren't for Hunter Dickinson, the headline might

646
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<v Speaker 1>be the posterizing dunk delivered by Cooper Flagg, but it wasn't.

647
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<v Speaker 1>Hunter Dickinson, fifth year senior, still doing childish things, ejected

648
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<v Speaker 1>from the game for kicking a Duke player in the head,

649
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:24.039
<v Speaker 1>Malik Brown. They were scuffling on the floor. It all

650
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<v Speaker 1>kind of erupted. Brown was assessed a personal foul for

651
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<v Speaker 1>backing into Dickinson. They were both going for a rebound.

652
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<v Speaker 1>Dickinson was given a flagrant io for kicking them in

653
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<v Speaker 1>the head. They were on the ground in front of

654
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<v Speaker 1>the bench area, and Dickinson kicked him in the head,

655
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<v Speaker 1>so he got the flagrant two and he got the boot.

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<v Speaker 1>Dickinson has been doing punk type things ever, so I

657
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<v Speaker 1>don't know if he did it in his previous school Michigan.

658
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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember seeing him do that in London. Didn't

659
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:55.799
<v Speaker 1>do anything goofy there when he played against Kentucky. But man,

660
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<v Speaker 1>he is making some bad headlines since getting to Kansas.

661
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<v Speaker 1>And remember there was a point where a lot of

662
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<v Speaker 1>us thought he was coming to Kentucky. Got a better

663
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<v Speaker 1>nil deal in Lawrence saying with basketball inside the NBA

664
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<v Speaker 1>was kicking it around last night. See what I did there.

665
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<v Speaker 1>Evidently somebody leaked somebody from the Philadelphia seventy six ers

666
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<v Speaker 1>leaked the fact that Joel Embiid is late all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had a team meeting, and that's one of

668
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<v Speaker 1>the things that came up. But somebody leaked what they

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about to the media, and the gang on

670
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<v Speaker 1>inside the NBA discussed it, including my man, Charles Barkley

671
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<v Speaker 1>and Shaquill O'Neal, and Barkley as always quite frank about

672
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<v Speaker 1>both the Embiid situation and whoever leaked it.

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<v Speaker 7>You cannot be leaked all the time. That's disrespectful to

674
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<v Speaker 7>your teammates and your coaches and everybody. You can't be late.

675
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:56.279
<v Speaker 7>So first Joel has to own that. But whoever leaked

676
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<v Speaker 7>that to the press need to be punched in the

677
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<v Speaker 7>face in a team meeting. Those are secret, Ernie. You

678
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<v Speaker 7>can't tell out secrets on a team meeting. Now, like

679
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<v Speaker 7>I say, maysually somebody has been punched in the face,

680
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<v Speaker 7>but that didn't get out yet. No, no, But I'm

681
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<v Speaker 7>saying though, when you when you when you in those meetings,

682
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<v Speaker 7>they're very personal when you especially when you call out

683
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<v Speaker 7>a guy like that. Like I said, Joe has to

684
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<v Speaker 7>own being laid all the time. He has to own

685
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.840
<v Speaker 7>that but that that should have never guiden to.

686
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<v Speaker 1>The press in this area we live in. That's never

687
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<v Speaker 1>going a check no check.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, if y'all had a team meeting, a guy

689
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<v Speaker 7>accused you or something, but it shouldn't should not it

690
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:36.239
<v Speaker 7>should not check Jim Gray, how you doing something? But

691
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<v Speaker 7>somebody has to tell it, Jim Gray, and you should

692
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<v Speaker 7>not do that. I have a Joe was right on

693
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<v Speaker 7>the part he said he called me a piece of

694
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<v Speaker 7>crap who leaked that? But he has to own I

695
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:46.519
<v Speaker 7>can't be late all the time.

696
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.679
<v Speaker 1>That's Curtsey a T n T. I certainly hope whoever

697
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<v Speaker 1>did the leaking wasn't Tyrese Maxey. And as a media guy,

698
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.559
<v Speaker 1>I love him when people leak stuff. But I don't

699
00:34:55.599 --> 00:35:00.360
<v Speaker 1>want Tyrese Maxi to uh invoke any bad blood with

700
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.199
<v Speaker 1>his teammates. That's a certainty. Over in the NFL, the

701
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Players Association released the top fifty player sales list and

702
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>some guys are seeing their jerseys fly off the racks.

703
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Who is number one? The top five are all quarterbacks,

704
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:20.320
<v Speaker 1>No surprise, Patrick Mahomes once again with the most merch sold.

705
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Second year QB C. J. Stroud of the Texans is second,

706
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Then Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts number four on the list.

707
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Bears rookie quarterback Caleb Williams. I guess that's not a surprise.

708
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 1>And even though his team is struggling, Joe Burrow of

709
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals is number five. The highest ranked non quarterback

710
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<v Speaker 1>in terms of Jersey sales. Lions d nd Aiden Hutchinson

711
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>is number six, and then his teammate wide receiver i'man

712
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Ross Saint Brown is number seven. So some of those

713
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<v Speaker 1>numbers are predictable and some of them are not. And

714
00:35:56.639 --> 00:36:00.760
<v Speaker 1>by the way, number eight Christian McCaffrey, number nine Mikah Parsons,

715
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.159
<v Speaker 1>and number ten Travis Kelcey. Quick baseball note for you,

716
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<v Speaker 1>the rich kid Richard. The Dodgers sign Cy Young Award

717
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:13.159
<v Speaker 1>winner from the Giants. There are tribals Blake Snell, so

718
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:19.199
<v Speaker 1>that means they have a potentially incredible starting rotation of Snell,

719
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:24.519
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Glass, now Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Shohei Otani, assuming he pitches

720
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>again and then picked from four or five guys. But

721
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 1>one of the names that is not coming up is

722
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:33.119
<v Speaker 1>lexing his Walker Buehler. So the signing of Snell, and

723
00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:35.239
<v Speaker 1>of course Bueller has been battling injuries. Although we pitch

724
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:38.199
<v Speaker 1>well in postseason, just might mean he's going to be

725
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>looking for another team. I won't get into the money.

726
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:44.760
<v Speaker 1>It's ridiculous, but the Dodgers have just, you know, incredibly

727
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>deep pockets. They can afford to pay the payroll taxes.

728
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:52.920
<v Speaker 1>But they signed Snell. Supposedly the Red Sox are trying

729
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.119
<v Speaker 1>to get him. The Yankees at a zoom call with him,

730
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>but they're really concentrating on re signing one Soto And

731
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>college football note you know this by now. Mack Brown

732
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 1>fired by North Carolina right after he said he was

733
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 1>coming back. Not so fast. My friend. One of the names,

734
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>of course, it's being tossed out there, John Somerall. And

735
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.079
<v Speaker 1>this doesn't mean he's a candidate. It just means that

736
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:18.599
<v Speaker 1>whoever was typing up a list of guys who maybe

737
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:21.280
<v Speaker 1>they might want to look at. But the former Kentucky

738
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:25.119
<v Speaker 1>linebacker in his first year Tulane has the Greenway nine

739
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:29.679
<v Speaker 1>and two. They're thinking playoff playoffs. He went twenty three

740
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and four in two years at Troy. He's young, he's

741
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:37.039
<v Speaker 1>forty two years old, and he has a great reputation.

742
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Of course, Kentucky fans who are unhappy with stoops or

743
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:43.559
<v Speaker 1>banging a drum for John some Roll. Here's an interesting

744
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<v Speaker 1>note about Mac Brown. When he was first in North Carolina,

745
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.599
<v Speaker 1>he had two turns there. This is when Kentucky was

746
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:53.719
<v Speaker 1>looking for a head coach with Seam Newton as the

747
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:57.119
<v Speaker 1>ad ended up hiring hell Mummy. But Newton and I

748
00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.320
<v Speaker 1>were together at one point and he asked me, what

749
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.679
<v Speaker 1>are the fans saying? And I mentioned two or three names,

750
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:04.840
<v Speaker 1>and one of them was Mac Brown was doing some

751
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:09.280
<v Speaker 1>good things at North Carolina. And talking about all three

752
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:12.760
<v Speaker 1>guys or however many I mentioned, seem said yeah, yeah,

753
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:16.559
<v Speaker 1>they're good. Yeah, but have they ever sustained anything? And

754
00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I had to answer, well, I don't know, I don't

755
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:21.679
<v Speaker 1>think so. But turns out Mac Brown did sustain well

756
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>enough at Carolina, then went on to Texas before we

757
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>ended up back in North Carolina. But now he's out

758
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<v Speaker 1>of a job. I hope you're having a great New

759
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<v Speaker 1>Year's Eve. We are presenting the best of the Big

760
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<v Speaker 1>Blue and Sider and a reminder tomorrow night special edition

761
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<v Speaker 1>is We're gonna look back on the big moments in

762
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>the year of sports for UK athletics, football, baseball, basketball,

763
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:46.639
<v Speaker 1>women's basketball, A lot of great moments. We're gonna look

764
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:51.199
<v Speaker 1>back on some of those tomorrow night on New Year's Evening,

765
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>back with our number two of the best of here

766
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<v Speaker 1>on six point thirty Wlaper. Welcome back to the Big

767
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<v Speaker 1>Blue Insider, I number two of our program. I'm going

768
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<v Speaker 1>to take you back to a few weeks ago when

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<v Speaker 1>I chatted with Katz Paul's general manager, editor of columnist

770
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Daryl Bird about the basketball yearbook that came out and

771
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<v Speaker 1>it really is a great issue. And I had a

772
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<v Speaker 1>chance to talk about his interview and his interaction with

773
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope. I want to congratulate. Do we talk before

774
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:06.599
<v Speaker 1>it came out. We haven't a chance to chat since

775
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.519
<v Speaker 1>the yearbook came out with the Star Trek cover on it.

776
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<v Speaker 1>Explain to people what that is because I I'm like you,

777
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling people are going want to grab

778
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:16.599
<v Speaker 1>this one and hang on to it.

779
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so to you. Just I was trying

780
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.159
<v Speaker 2>to think of a It's always hard on cover because

781
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.199
<v Speaker 2>you really need just one or two words to sum

782
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:26.719
<v Speaker 2>it up. And the more I went around talked to

783
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:29.840
<v Speaker 2>people energized has struck me. One day and it's exactly

784
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:32.920
<v Speaker 2>how it was. The whole fan base was completely re energized,

785
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:37.239
<v Speaker 2>starting with that introductory press conference that just was absurd

786
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:39.960
<v Speaker 2>when you think about it looking back on it, and

787
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:42.639
<v Speaker 2>just so much new LIKEE pumped into it and energize.

788
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:44.639
<v Speaker 2>And when you think energize, at least I do, I

789
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:47.159
<v Speaker 2>think Star Trek. Of course I could could not pass

790
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<v Speaker 2>up the opportunity to go on that.

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00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Then there have been so many iterations of Star Trek,

792
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.519
<v Speaker 1>but that is enduring. It hasn't it energized?

793
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:54.039
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

794
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:55.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, that's the original.

795
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I assume did you take the cover photo because

797
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<v Speaker 1>you're really I've told you this before, you're a really

798
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>good photographer. But did you set up and take you that?

799
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<v Speaker 3>Now?

800
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:06.519
<v Speaker 2>That's Kat White took that one.

801
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, he's great too, he's the UK athletics photographer. Is that?

802
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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about the background because it looks like the

803
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<v Speaker 1>I know it's green screen or CGI or whatever you

804
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:20.679
<v Speaker 1>want to call it, but it looks like the transporter chamber.

805
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 2>It is the transporter room. Yeah, a photo of that,

806
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:27.239
<v Speaker 2>and I had to cut out all the individual players

807
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:31.119
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, resize them proportionally so they looked like they

808
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<v Speaker 2>were being being to board the UK starship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>A bit of a start to do. I was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a star trek nerd. On its second running,

812
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:42.599
<v Speaker 1>it was I guess after it's been canceled but became

813
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<v Speaker 1>super popular. I read a book, one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>books about the making of it and how they came

815
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<v Speaker 1>up with the way that they created that energizer look

816
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<v Speaker 1>with the spar that's aluminum dust. They were able to

817
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<v Speaker 1>sprinkle through a light or something like that. So I

818
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<v Speaker 1>was so happy to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, William Shatner's book about it is really good.

820
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:03.079
<v Speaker 3>Really, I've had that. I read that along. Yet it's

821
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<v Speaker 3>really good.

822
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<v Speaker 2>I got that a long time ago about just the

823
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:08.519
<v Speaker 2>whole process and how season three they had they knew

824
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:11.159
<v Speaker 2>they were done, and they cut the budget to nothing,

825
00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:12.920
<v Speaker 2>and the prompts were horrible and all.

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00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:14.280
<v Speaker 3>It's a really good reading.

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<v Speaker 1>In the original book I read, it might have been

828
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 1>in his as well. And we'll get the folks, I promise,

829
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 1>we'll get the basketball in a minute. But they wore

830
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:26.800
<v Speaker 1>those those uniformed shirts made out of volure, and of

831
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:29.239
<v Speaker 1>course you know, there were physical scenes and this and that,

832
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:33.599
<v Speaker 1>and whenever they would clean them they would shrink, and

833
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:35.280
<v Speaker 1>so they had to wear them as long as they

834
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.440
<v Speaker 1>could before they were just impossibly tight. And as you said,

835
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<v Speaker 1>the budget, you know, oh my god, I got to

836
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<v Speaker 1>buy more of these things. So anyhow, yeah, exactly, So

837
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:46.320
<v Speaker 1>let us let us get to to the basketball program.

838
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<v Speaker 1>And I used the SoundBite the internight from one of

839
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>your questions. I've told you asked good questions, but you

840
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.400
<v Speaker 1>asked about and I used the racing term bounce what

841
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<v Speaker 1>you didn't. But you asked Mark Pope if he was

842
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>afraid of a letdown after you to win over Duke,

843
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:04.360
<v Speaker 1>and I thought his answer and I played his answer

844
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:07.599
<v Speaker 1>was earlyast part of it. You know, it's pretty long. Yes,

845
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:11.400
<v Speaker 1>was a typical Mark Pope answer. You know that there

846
00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:14.440
<v Speaker 1>has been a lot of thought and research and emotion

847
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:17.360
<v Speaker 1>going into it. But explain to everybody in a nutshell

848
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>what he said if they didn't hear it the other

849
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:20.119
<v Speaker 1>night or when you first asked it.

850
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was, I wrote about it yesterday. To me,

851
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:26.480
<v Speaker 2>it's it's getting to be the norm. You ask what

852
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:28.280
<v Speaker 2>you think is a simple question, you get a very

853
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:32.119
<v Speaker 2>profound answer, is much more than what you bargeted for. Basically,

854
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:34.719
<v Speaker 2>summed up at the end, we focus on what we

855
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.199
<v Speaker 2>want to happen. We don't focus on what we don't

856
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:39.519
<v Speaker 2>want to happen, which is the only way to look

857
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:42.559
<v Speaker 2>at and he said, and then he gets into the neuroscience,

858
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:45.960
<v Speaker 2>of course, is to be worried about the letdown, the

859
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:49.039
<v Speaker 2>emotions that come along with with you know, the pure

860
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:51.360
<v Speaker 2>body chemistry of such a high that you're going not

861
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:53.239
<v Speaker 2>going to be rised back up with that, he said,

862
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:57.000
<v Speaker 2>But from that second they won, and Andrew Carton, you know,

863
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:58.599
<v Speaker 2>we celebrate just a little and then it was on

864
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.440
<v Speaker 2>to the next game. And you know, had that been

865
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:04.320
<v Speaker 2>a young team that pulled off that win against they

866
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:08.559
<v Speaker 2>would have looked horrible against them, and these guys didn't. Yeah,

867
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:11.119
<v Speaker 2>and that was my premise, was what was your anxiety

868
00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:15.320
<v Speaker 2>level because it's such an old team. I was thinking, okay,

869
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:17.239
<v Speaker 2>it was greatly reduced, and he's like, no, we don't.

870
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:21.559
<v Speaker 2>We don't even accept that as a possibility here. Okay.

871
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:24.519
<v Speaker 1>I also where he says, we don't get nervous, and

872
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, it's so human to be nervous.

873
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:29.719
<v Speaker 1>And you wonder how did they coach that either out

874
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:31.800
<v Speaker 1>of somebody or into somebody, you know what I mean?

875
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he said.

876
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 2>The natural reaction is to be a little nervous that

877
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.880
<v Speaker 2>it might happen, and they just calculated and dismissed it

878
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:41.719
<v Speaker 2>summarily and get on with it, which I think you

879
00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:44.239
<v Speaker 2>can do with an old team. I think it's a

880
00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 2>completely different question if this was an all freshmen like

881
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:47.719
<v Speaker 2>we're used to.

882
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:50.400
<v Speaker 1>It also helps to be pretty good, doesn't it.

883
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:51.280
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it does.

884
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:54.840
<v Speaker 2>That's what That's what has amazing me because we all

885
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:57.079
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like with the football season. He said,

886
00:45:57.079 --> 00:45:58.440
<v Speaker 2>how good you k? I said, I don't know how

887
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.800
<v Speaker 2>good rock bander is. It's never played this group. How

888
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:02.599
<v Speaker 2>good is basketball?

889
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:03.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

890
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:06.320
<v Speaker 2>It's twelve guys who've never been around each other. How

891
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:07.800
<v Speaker 2>long is it gonna take the mesh? How good are

892
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:11.960
<v Speaker 2>and you look at all these guys were considered good,

893
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes they weren't. They weren't considered elite by any stretch

894
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:17.719
<v Speaker 2>of the imagination at any no matter where they came from.

895
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:20.519
<v Speaker 2>And some of these I don't even if they were

896
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.719
<v Speaker 2>leading scorer on their own team, but here they are.

897
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:27.079
<v Speaker 2>And just I give all the credits to Mark Pope.

898
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:28.400
<v Speaker 3>What buttons?

899
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:30.679
<v Speaker 2>He's pushing and I talked to some of the players

900
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:32.920
<v Speaker 2>early and they're like, I'm still getting used to the

901
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:35.000
<v Speaker 2>fact that I'm playing for a coach that doesn't yell

902
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 2>at me. Everything is positive reinforcement and it's and they're

903
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:42.559
<v Speaker 2>just lapping that up like crazy.

904
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's got it. I think he had one player

905
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.159
<v Speaker 1>was a bread who came off the bend, was the

906
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>sixth man and you had led the team in scoring

907
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>or something like that, but still something accepted the role

908
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>as six man. You know, was not the marquee player

909
00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.599
<v Speaker 1>on that team. That You're right, maybe Lamont Butler fit

910
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:02.239
<v Speaker 1>that bill well, just because San Diego State was known

911
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:04.599
<v Speaker 1>for defense and it was their point guard. But it

912
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.079
<v Speaker 1>hit that big shot in the tournament. But yeah, that's

913
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.400
<v Speaker 1>a great point. No great, but a lot of good, right.

914
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it is.

915
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.079
<v Speaker 2>But yet the sum so far as is looking great,

916
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:16.719
<v Speaker 2>and I know it's early, but there's so much more,

917
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:18.719
<v Speaker 2>so much room for them to improve. Yeah, some of

918
00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:21.519
<v Speaker 2>these and I can't wait to see Colin Chandler get

919
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:25.280
<v Speaker 2>the rest completely off and start playing up his fool potential.

920
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:27.320
<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's a great point you bring up,

921
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>because as you look at this team and I was

922
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:31.440
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this the other day. What are they going

923
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:33.400
<v Speaker 1>to look like in March? Everybody wants to know that,

924
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:35.159
<v Speaker 1>of course, and they're gonna be much better and they're

925
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:40.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna win some games. But will we call one player

926
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:44.440
<v Speaker 1>in particular great? This guy has become a great player,

927
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:48.159
<v Speaker 1>I honestly, with no disrespect and tenant, I doubt that

928
00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:51.440
<v Speaker 1>simply because of the makeup of this team, the way

929
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:55.679
<v Speaker 1>they play, the way they rotate players. There's there's so

930
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:56.800
<v Speaker 1>many of them, you know what I mean?

931
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're no, You're not gonna be interesting to see

932
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:03.599
<v Speaker 2>what postseason awards look like because nobody's going to be

933
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:06.320
<v Speaker 2>way up there on average per game, right the star.

934
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's what I thought about the other day.

935
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Andrew against Duke. Andrew Carr has seventeen, Jackson Robinson has

936
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:16.920
<v Speaker 2>one point right flip it come back. A week later,

937
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Robinson has twenty, Andrew Carr has two. They did a

938
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:24.199
<v Speaker 2>complete reversal and didn't miss a beat. And that's to me,

939
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:26.960
<v Speaker 2>if I'm scouting them, I'm like, oh my goodness, word,

940
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:28.679
<v Speaker 2>are you what poison do you pick on this group?

941
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

942
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Because you don't know where it's coming from.

943
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when I was looking at this roster and reading

944
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:36.679
<v Speaker 1>up on them before pro day. I got to Andley

945
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.159
<v Speaker 1>alman Or. I saw his size and his ability with

946
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:42.119
<v Speaker 1>a three pointer, and I thought, that is a matchup nightmare.

947
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:44.559
<v Speaker 1>And there's more than one on this roster, isn't there?

948
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are It's it's it's a very unique group.

949
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:50.199
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, yeah, I got a got a guy

950
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.719
<v Speaker 2>out here that shoots seventy eight percent from three point line,

951
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:54.320
<v Speaker 2>but he can't break the starting lineup.

952
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:59.400
<v Speaker 1>But what a weapon to bring off the bench. That's fantastic,

953
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.679
<v Speaker 1>you know. Is Yeah, we're talking to Darryl Bird. He

954
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:07.519
<v Speaker 1>is a general manager of the Cats. Pause writer, columnist, photographer.

955
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Uh were you a photographer before you started shooting pictures

956
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:14.239
<v Speaker 1>for the cast boys? I've always meant to ask you

957
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that now.

958
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I started when I started the newspaper Elizabethtown. I was

959
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:22.440
<v Speaker 2>hired as a writer, but quickly, with a smaller staff,

960
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:24.360
<v Speaker 2>you end up taking a lot of photos at your

961
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:27.280
<v Speaker 2>own event. And just kind of fell in love with it.

962
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:31.960
<v Speaker 2>And my desk was literally across the hallway from the

963
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:35.480
<v Speaker 2>dark room, and you know, the stowers like can you

964
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:37.400
<v Speaker 2>help me with it? And I just started doing that.

965
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I fell in love with I mean, I'm going back

966
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:42.960
<v Speaker 2>way old school, rolling the film on the canister in

967
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:46.519
<v Speaker 2>complete darkness, and you know, renting it back and forth,

968
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:48.880
<v Speaker 2>and then printing your own prints and using your hands

969
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:52.320
<v Speaker 2>to dodge and bird the images. And I hope you

970
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:53.719
<v Speaker 2>got it right. You don't have to do it over

971
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:55.719
<v Speaker 2>and just fell in over that whole side of it

972
00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:59.639
<v Speaker 2>and just ended up kind of doing both my whole.

973
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Career dodging and Bernie Man, I remember that in the

974
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:06.599
<v Speaker 1>old school photographers, nobody's talking about. I learned that much

975
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:10.360
<v Speaker 1>when I wrote for the UK paper. I never took that.

976
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I wish I had taken the course in photography because

977
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:15.159
<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed doing it, but never followed up with it.

978
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:18.119
<v Speaker 1>But one of the guys, Stuart Bowman or somebody taught

979
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:21.760
<v Speaker 1>me that. But I never learned how to do the world.

980
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:23.960
<v Speaker 1>You have to obviously, you don't want to expose your

981
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:26.920
<v Speaker 1>film to any light. So when you're rolling your own

982
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:30.000
<v Speaker 1>film into those little canisters that you put in your camera,

983
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:33.719
<v Speaker 1>you have to do it in utter darkness, just by feel, and.

984
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I feel and hope that that you know, the film

985
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:39.159
<v Speaker 2>does not can't touch the It has to roll in

986
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:41.360
<v Speaker 2>a way that it doesn't touch or when you're getting

987
00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:42.199
<v Speaker 2>ready to develop it.

988
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:51.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, amazing back and now with digital technology it's easier,

989
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:54.199
<v Speaker 1>but in some ways it's tougher, so you know, uh,

990
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:56.320
<v Speaker 1>but you can take a lot of pictures, a lot

991
00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:59.559
<v Speaker 1>of pictures without spending more money, you know, because with

992
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:02.639
<v Speaker 1>the old every time you expose the frame, it costs

993
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:03.119
<v Speaker 1>your money.

994
00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:07.760
<v Speaker 2>If thirty six rolls per thirty six images per roll

995
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.320
<v Speaker 2>the film, that's right. And now you'll see people shoot

996
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:13.400
<v Speaker 2>five six hundred of these games on digital and you know,

997
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:16.480
<v Speaker 2>thirty six and shoot three rows of film and get back,

998
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:19.360
<v Speaker 2>have it developed the next day and find out your

999
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:22.639
<v Speaker 2>exposure was wrong, which you know. Digital it's like you

1000
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:24.320
<v Speaker 2>take it, you look at it, and you're like, okay,

1001
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:27.559
<v Speaker 2>just here. Yeah, it's amazing how much different I.

1002
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:30.079
<v Speaker 1>See you guys on the sideline, and the most guys

1003
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:32.800
<v Speaker 1>add it as they go. They'll take picture from the

1004
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:35.039
<v Speaker 1>day of a football play and look at it. Nope,

1005
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:37.519
<v Speaker 1>don't like it, Delete it right now so they don't

1006
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:40.000
<v Speaker 1>have to do it later. Sonny, we got a little gut,

1007
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:43.039
<v Speaker 1>a little bit off off track with Daryl Bird, but

1008
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I do want to talk some football when we come back.

1009
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:48.039
<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the best of the Big Boom Insider

1010
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:52.000
<v Speaker 1>on six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Best of

1011
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:56.199
<v Speaker 1>the Big Boom Insider. We're talking with Daryl Bird, the

1012
00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:59.119
<v Speaker 1>GM of the Catch Pause, who takes pictures and rights

1013
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:02.199
<v Speaker 1>and reports and does everything for the cast bolls. He

1014
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:05.159
<v Speaker 1>and Aaron Gershawan and a kind of a skeleton staff

1015
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.639
<v Speaker 1>anymore with the Cats balls. But they put out a

1016
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:11.760
<v Speaker 1>great basketball yearbook just in time for Christmas. But I

1017
00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:13.440
<v Speaker 1>want to talk to you, of course about Mark Soups

1018
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:16.280
<v Speaker 1>in his football program. This has been kind of a

1019
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 1>throwback season when it comes to wins and loss has

1020
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:21.960
<v Speaker 1>been in a different way, isn't it. It's not that

1021
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky doesn't have enough talent. When Stoops got here, the

1022
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:28.480
<v Speaker 1>cupboard was almost bear. With all due respect, he's got

1023
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:32.760
<v Speaker 1>some talent on this team. But between injuries, mystifying penalties,

1024
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:35.960
<v Speaker 1>it has not been a satisfying season to say the least,

1025
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:36.199
<v Speaker 1>has it.

1026
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:39.760
<v Speaker 2>No, it's been very, very frustrating, and I know the

1027
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:44.159
<v Speaker 2>fans are really frustrated, and I think, you know, we're

1028
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:46.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna be honest here, that's a pretty good segment. Was

1029
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:49.159
<v Speaker 2>hoping he might retire and just kind of ride off

1030
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:51.440
<v Speaker 2>into the sunset after thirty years. But he's made it

1031
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:53.400
<v Speaker 2>clear he is and no intention of doing that. But

1032
00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:55.960
<v Speaker 2>those saying people who would like that kind of like

1033
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:59.320
<v Speaker 2>seem right away are well he does. He has earned

1034
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:02.280
<v Speaker 2>the chance to set with what he has done. I

1035
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:06.480
<v Speaker 2>always go back to UK has four keen win seasons

1036
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:08.800
<v Speaker 2>and one hundred plus years of football.

1037
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:10.760
<v Speaker 3>And he has two of the four exactly.

1038
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:14.119
<v Speaker 2>So shut up. He knows what he's doing. If he

1039
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:15.800
<v Speaker 2>wants to try to fix that, you owe him that.

1040
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

1041
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:18.719
<v Speaker 2>But it's been a weird year.

1042
00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh it has. And that leads to my next question.

1043
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:22.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't about you, but I kind of feel bad

1044
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:24.320
<v Speaker 1>for him because it's written all over his face and

1045
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:27.880
<v Speaker 1>he's not He's backed off on talking much about the

1046
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:30.800
<v Speaker 1>portal and nil because there was some backlash nationally. I

1047
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:34.039
<v Speaker 1>think when he complained about it, but oh, he said, Darryl,

1048
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:37.559
<v Speaker 1>I promise you whatever he coach in America was thinking

1049
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that instead of coaching now, my spare time goes to

1050
00:53:41.000 --> 00:53:42.360
<v Speaker 1>raising money.

1051
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I had that one on one with him for our football, right.

1052
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:49.239
<v Speaker 2>He was so open and I'm like, are you kind

1053
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:51.760
<v Speaker 2>of thinking? Are you sure you want and he's like,

1054
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:54.440
<v Speaker 2>and I said, thank you for saying this. That he

1055
00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:57.039
<v Speaker 2>was the first one that, if you remember, came out

1056
00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:59.159
<v Speaker 2>one day to Prescott and said, well these are free agents.

1057
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:00.400
<v Speaker 4>Yes, oh my.

1058
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:01.559
<v Speaker 3>God, it we let's call.

1059
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:04.559
<v Speaker 2>And then this year it was I'm working to meet

1060
00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:07.159
<v Speaker 2>payroll and I'm like, what do you mean, pyroll?

1061
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Payroll?

1062
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:10.280
<v Speaker 2>If I don't play, if I don't raise enough money

1063
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:13.679
<v Speaker 2>to pay these guys, they either won't play the game

1064
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:16.840
<v Speaker 2>or they'll leave. Yeah, and you better believe that pressure

1065
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:20.480
<v Speaker 2>is real, and it's in his fairness. I did a

1066
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:25.559
<v Speaker 2>thing with Texas Radio this morning and I said, well,

1067
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:27.239
<v Speaker 2>they were asking me kind of the same thing, and

1068
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:29.679
<v Speaker 2>it's like, well, here's the deal in Io at Texas.

1069
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:34.960
<v Speaker 2>It's going to football. We're like, yeah, here you get half. Maybe, yeah,

1070
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:37.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's a best you can hope for is a

1071
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:39.679
<v Speaker 2>fifty to fifty split. And it's a much smaller state

1072
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:43.159
<v Speaker 2>with much smaller resources in that regard.

1073
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:45.559
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, of course it's a challenge. Better believe it is.

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00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Job.

1075
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:50.800
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, they brought the an M job and

1076
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:54.199
<v Speaker 2>I said, well, any fan with logical sense here in

1077
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:56.639
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky said, yeah, you better talk to an M. If

1078
00:54:56.679 --> 00:54:58.679
<v Speaker 2>they call you, yeah, better belie them.

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00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Look, and you know I worked down there. There's a

1080
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:04.519
<v Speaker 1>bottomless pit of money down there, so that that would

1081
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:07.239
<v Speaker 1>never be an issue. Plus, as you point out, football

1082
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:09.719
<v Speaker 1>is king. So a few minutes left with Daryl Bird.

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<v Speaker 1>What about this game with Texas? Uh, I expected, with

1084
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:17.119
<v Speaker 1>all those injuries going into Knoxville an ugly blowout because

1085
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:19.320
<v Speaker 1>we've covered some of those games down there, haven't we? Yes,

1086
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:23.800
<v Speaker 1>but now and their question marks about Texas about strength

1087
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:26.519
<v Speaker 1>to schedule, and then when Georgia did going in not

1088
00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:29.880
<v Speaker 1>the Kentucky's Georgia, but Kentucky played with Georgia. So I

1089
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:32.159
<v Speaker 1>think there are some Longhorn fans who are wondering about

1090
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:33.239
<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats.

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00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:37.239
<v Speaker 2>I had. That was the exact reaction from the guys

1092
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:39.519
<v Speaker 2>on the Texas podcast. I said, you're going to get

1093
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:41.159
<v Speaker 2>a game. They're like, oh, yeah, we know, we're going

1094
00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:44.400
<v Speaker 2>to get a game. There's no question because they're like,

1095
00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:46.280
<v Speaker 2>what's the deal? How do you beat Ole miss and

1096
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:49.480
<v Speaker 2>nearly beat Georgia and play Tennessee as hard as you

1097
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:52.039
<v Speaker 2>did and then lose your some of the games you've lost. Yeah,

1098
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:54.199
<v Speaker 2>and it's I don't know, I said, I think it's

1099
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:56.559
<v Speaker 2>the soup's mentality in that locker room. They are going

1100
00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:59.639
<v Speaker 2>to play tough. They may not win. They probably won't win.

1101
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:03.360
<v Speaker 2>They need a very on brown kickoff or turn touchdown,

1102
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:05.639
<v Speaker 2>and they need they need to go for it on

1103
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:08.800
<v Speaker 2>fourth and eight from the thirty, not take the field goal.

1104
00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if I'm gonna lose, I'm gonna lose seventy

1105
00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:13.679
<v Speaker 2>to nothing. I'm gonna keep going for touch heead, what

1106
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:15.639
<v Speaker 2>do you have to lose at this stage. I'm with you,

1107
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm with a You know, they're anticipating, they they're going

1108
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:19.519
<v Speaker 2>to know they were in a fight.

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00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm looking forward to just being done. I've been

1110
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:25.239
<v Speaker 1>in Austin when I work down there back in the eighties,

1111
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:28.159
<v Speaker 1>but not for a game. Uh. You know, so I'm

1112
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:30.360
<v Speaker 1>told it's going to be a full house. And uh.

1113
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:31.960
<v Speaker 1>One of the weird things, I was on a radio

1114
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:33.920
<v Speaker 1>show down in Austin and I had the guests on

1115
00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:36.760
<v Speaker 1>my show, the host on my show, I said, what

1116
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:38.559
<v Speaker 1>can we expect? And one of the things he said

1117
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:41.679
<v Speaker 1>there I was, they don't tailgate down here. They have

1118
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:43.719
<v Speaker 1>a different kind of setup, you know, with a long

1119
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:47.559
<v Speaker 1>I guess this road that surrounds the stadium that's dotted

1120
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:49.639
<v Speaker 1>with different places you can go to eat and drink

1121
00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:51.800
<v Speaker 1>of that kind of thing. But my reaction was they

1122
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:53.760
<v Speaker 1>will learn to tailgate once they see the rest of

1123
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the SEC.

1124
00:56:55.079 --> 00:56:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Just they will. Yeah, not everybody accuracy. What they're going

1125
00:56:59.920 --> 00:57:00.840
<v Speaker 3>to think? Is that to me?

1126
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:03.639
<v Speaker 2>When they were talking about UK and I said, well,

1127
00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:04.199
<v Speaker 2>here's the deal.

1128
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:04.519
<v Speaker 1>UK.

1129
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:06.679
<v Speaker 2>At the beginning of the year, I would k's living.

1130
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:08.239
<v Speaker 2>I guess you're eleving by the end of the year

1131
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:11.039
<v Speaker 2>after going through the SEC. Now their feat to death. Yeah,

1132
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:13.800
<v Speaker 2>and I'm wondering if Texas is like, Wow, this is

1133
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:16.280
<v Speaker 2>a much more physical league than what we're used to do.

1134
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:18.760
<v Speaker 1>You run the gauntlet, there's no questions about you do.

1135
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Daryl Bird is the general manager of the Cats Paws.

1136
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:26.320
<v Speaker 1>You need to pick up the Cats Paws Basketball yearbook.

1137
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:29.400
<v Speaker 1>It features, among other things, Mark Pope how he got

1138
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to Kentucky. I love there have been so many takes

1139
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:34.719
<v Speaker 1>on this and I love reading everybody's takes, profiles and

1140
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:39.880
<v Speaker 1>all the players and SEC preview, the opponents, talk of recruiting.

1141
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:43.440
<v Speaker 1>State colleges are covered, Boys and Girls, high school, the

1142
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:46.519
<v Speaker 1>UK women and you write about it. You have a

1143
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:51.239
<v Speaker 1>feature about the fiftieth anniversary in the UK's nineteen seventy

1144
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:56.639
<v Speaker 1>five season basketball, which was a great one and I

1145
00:57:56.679 --> 00:57:58.639
<v Speaker 1>was in school for that. It was a lot of fun.

1146
00:57:58.639 --> 00:57:59.639
<v Speaker 1>I love that team.

1147
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that team was great, and that story is it's

1148
00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:05.559
<v Speaker 2>tremendous and I was able to I talked to Joe

1149
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Hall before he to talk to Kevin Greevy and Mike Playing,

1150
00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:13.039
<v Speaker 2>all those guys their memories of that whole season, and

1151
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:17.719
<v Speaker 2>it's really cool stuff. It's amazing. Like this team, we

1152
00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:20.880
<v Speaker 2>can get good stuff, but talk to him ten fifteen

1153
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:23.199
<v Speaker 2>years from now, and you'll get so many great stories

1154
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:24.440
<v Speaker 2>that they won't tell you now.

1155
00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:28.360
<v Speaker 1>You are right about that. And what I always loved

1156
00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:32.239
<v Speaker 1>when teams got together with Joe b years later, he

1157
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:35.679
<v Speaker 1>always said, I'm hearing things, stories about things. I'm glad

1158
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know we're going on when I was coaching exactly,

1159
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:41.679
<v Speaker 1>but every now and then he would tell them stories

1160
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:44.960
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't know, you know, that was going on

1161
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:48.639
<v Speaker 1>with the coaching staff. But that's seventy five basketball season

1162
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:54.760
<v Speaker 1>followed a super weird seventy five football season, you know,

1163
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:58.639
<v Speaker 1>with the investigation of Sonny Collins and or then included

1164
00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:03.639
<v Speaker 1>Sunny Collins unfairly and you know, Kentucky kept snatching defeat

1165
00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:06.400
<v Speaker 1>from the jaws of victory all year and points shaving

1166
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:09.760
<v Speaker 1>rumors which were bogus. Uh So, yeah, we needed that

1167
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:11.119
<v Speaker 1>basketball season, didn't we.

1168
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was. And then to go up early and

1169
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:17.599
<v Speaker 2>have Indiana beat your brains in and you know, the

1170
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:21.000
<v Speaker 2>old head slapped at Joe Bobby Knight. Ye come back

1171
00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:23.719
<v Speaker 2>and beat undefeated Indiana to get to the final fours.

1172
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:26.679
<v Speaker 3>Almost perfect, people.

1173
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:28.719
<v Speaker 2>John Wyden decided he's going to retire to day for

1174
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:29.599
<v Speaker 2>the championship.

1175
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:31.840
<v Speaker 1>There are people to this day and I'm sure they

1176
00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:34.159
<v Speaker 1>ask you. They asked me, what's your favorite game or

1177
00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:37.079
<v Speaker 1>moment or this or that? And my favorite basketball game

1178
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:41.079
<v Speaker 1>is still all things considered, that game where they came

1179
00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:43.719
<v Speaker 1>back and beat Indiana in the regional and I know

1180
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:45.960
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have Scott Green or Scott May or whatever

1181
00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:50.719
<v Speaker 1>his name was, Scott May, but still everybody expected Indiana

1182
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:53.800
<v Speaker 1>to roll over him again and that didn't happen. So

1183
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:55.280
<v Speaker 1>that's why that's.

1184
00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Way, and everybody talks about you know, Joe b in

1185
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:01.639
<v Speaker 2>the seventy eighty finally got out them under Adolph's shadow

1186
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:04.599
<v Speaker 2>to seventy five. That's when he got that was his

1187
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:08.599
<v Speaker 2>signature coming out party. Look what he did with He

1188
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:12.840
<v Speaker 2>took down Mighty Indiana what two years three years after

1189
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Adolph Yeah.

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01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:18.039
<v Speaker 1>Great point, and took down Bobby Knight with him.

1191
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:19.440
<v Speaker 3>So yes he did.

1192
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Darryl, thank you so much. And again you need to

1193
01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:26.599
<v Speaker 1>pick up the Catspaws Yearbook. Follow Darryl on Twitter at

1194
01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Darryl Bird. But they can get the the yearbook wherever

1195
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:31.960
<v Speaker 1>they get sports magazines. Am I right?

1196
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Kroger specifically shop Yeah, not Kroger this year, shop Catspaws

1197
01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:36.440
<v Speaker 2>dot com.

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01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:39.199
<v Speaker 3>The easiest way, Okay, very good, all right, the easiest.

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01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Way we can get it right to you.

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01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Daryl Bird of the Cat's Pause and more to

1201
01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:45.920
<v Speaker 1>come on the best of the Big Boo Insider here

1202
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:49.840
<v Speaker 1>on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider.

1203
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Coming up a little bit later on, we're gonna replay

1204
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:56.599
<v Speaker 1>this segment we use to close out our Thanksgiving program

1205
01:00:56.639 --> 01:00:59.239
<v Speaker 1>just ahead of the big holiday, as we look back

1206
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:03.239
<v Speaker 1>on a great up of WKRP in Cincinnati, and if

1207
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:05.599
<v Speaker 1>you know the show, you know where I'm going with that.

1208
01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:08.639
<v Speaker 1>I thought to take you back to earlier this month

1209
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:11.360
<v Speaker 1>when I made some points to some things that jumped

1210
01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:16.360
<v Speaker 1>off the internet at me. I needed to touch on

1211
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:18.159
<v Speaker 1>a couple of things that I didn't have a chance

1212
01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:22.639
<v Speaker 1>to get into yesterday. First of all, congratulations to former

1213
01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Wildcat Sydney McLaughlin lavroon Female Track Athlete of the Year.

1214
01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:32.000
<v Speaker 1>She was a Wildcat only one year. But she was

1215
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:35.280
<v Speaker 1>not somebody who just used this place as a way station.

1216
01:01:35.400 --> 01:01:39.599
<v Speaker 1>And we know this because she still claims UK. You know,

1217
01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:41.960
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't one of these athletes who just stopped here

1218
01:01:41.960 --> 01:01:44.960
<v Speaker 1>for eight months and took off to a great pro career.

1219
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:48.079
<v Speaker 1>Now she comes back to UK, so I give her

1220
01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:50.880
<v Speaker 1>credit for that. The other thing we need to talk

1221
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:53.639
<v Speaker 1>about is the fact that when I was talking about

1222
01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Mark Stoops yesterday, I didn't realize because it popped out

1223
01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:01.000
<v Speaker 1>on social media a little bit later after I recorded.

1224
01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that it was twelve years to the

1225
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:09.079
<v Speaker 1>day since Mark Stoops signed on at the University of Kentucky.

1226
01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:13.480
<v Speaker 1>And I bring that up because I was talking about

1227
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:19.880
<v Speaker 1>that during my chat with you guys about Kentucky football

1228
01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that Mark Stoops is trying to rebuild

1229
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:29.320
<v Speaker 1>this program now, not the entire program, the subculture is there.

1230
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:32.599
<v Speaker 1>The culture's there now. He just got to get it

1231
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:36.360
<v Speaker 1>back in shape. But keep in mind what he said

1232
01:02:36.360 --> 01:02:39.840
<v Speaker 1>when he got here. He said he talked about how

1233
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:43.800
<v Speaker 1>he was going to lay things out and get things done.

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01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Essentially was recruiting, got to bring in better players. Rich

1235
01:02:48.760 --> 01:02:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Brooks said that when he got here. Do you remember

1236
01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:54.159
<v Speaker 1>that rich Brooks said when he got here, And he

1237
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:56.280
<v Speaker 1>said this in hindsight, He didn't say this when he

1238
01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:01.159
<v Speaker 1>was introduced, but he said, UK at the time had

1239
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:08.159
<v Speaker 1>one player, one that could run a sub four five forty.

1240
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Now you think about that, that meant that Kentucky was

1241
01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:18.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe the slowest team in the Southeastern Conference. And obviously

1242
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:21.599
<v Speaker 1>the two things you have to have to win in

1243
01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:25.159
<v Speaker 1>this league size and speed. I don't remember what kind

1244
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:28.159
<v Speaker 1>of size the Wildcats had. And you can have guys

1245
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:31.039
<v Speaker 1>that are big who don't have a lot of athletic ability.

1246
01:03:31.239 --> 01:03:35.360
<v Speaker 1>We've seen that, haven't we. But minus speed, you've got

1247
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:38.840
<v Speaker 1>no shot. You don't have receivers who can get open.

1248
01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:41.119
<v Speaker 1>You don't have d backs who can cover that kind

1249
01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:45.119
<v Speaker 1>of receiver. So Stoops comes in, looks at the talent

1250
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:49.320
<v Speaker 1>level and goes to work. He and Vince Merrill and

1251
01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:52.760
<v Speaker 1>his staff members who have come and gone, They brought

1252
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:56.599
<v Speaker 1>in better players, right, they developed them and they won

1253
01:03:56.679 --> 01:03:59.719
<v Speaker 1>more games. But one of the things that Stoops said

1254
01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:05.280
<v Speaker 1>was there will be no shortcuts. Well, guess what. That's

1255
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:11.840
<v Speaker 1>exactly what. The portal and the nil represent shortcuts for everybody.

1256
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Only they're gambles. You sure you got the right guy,

1257
01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:20.280
<v Speaker 1>You're sure you're paying the right people the right amounts

1258
01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:27.039
<v Speaker 1>of money. It's tempting, isn't it. And it's not just tempting.

1259
01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:31.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a must if you are a college football coach,

1260
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:35.559
<v Speaker 1>because it's so much of a numbers game. Basketball too,

1261
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:40.159
<v Speaker 1>but football is such a numbers game, and anymore, especially

1262
01:04:40.239 --> 01:04:43.679
<v Speaker 1>coaches paid a ton of money like Stoops, It's not

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01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:45.199
<v Speaker 1>what have you done for me lately? It's what have

1264
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:49.400
<v Speaker 1>you done for me today? Coaches aren't getting four and

1265
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:54.119
<v Speaker 1>five years anymore because the demand from fans, the demand

1266
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:57.599
<v Speaker 1>from boosters, the demand from athletics directors who are paying

1267
01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:04.360
<v Speaker 1>top dollar demands success right now. So that's why the

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01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:09.079
<v Speaker 1>shortcuts are so vital anymore. And I firmly believe, and

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01:05:09.119 --> 01:05:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I've not talked to him about this, and even if

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01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to, I don't think Stoops will talk to

1271
01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:15.719
<v Speaker 1>me about it. I talked to Tom Leach about it,

1272
01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:18.400
<v Speaker 1>But I think this just gets it Stoops where he

1273
01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:22.360
<v Speaker 1>lives how to build a football team the right way.

1274
01:05:24.440 --> 01:05:29.039
<v Speaker 1>And given the fact that everybody and Stoops has had

1275
01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:33.039
<v Speaker 1>some success with the portal, but everybody's dealing with it now,

1276
01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:37.559
<v Speaker 1>means he can't go back to do things the way

1277
01:05:37.719 --> 01:05:40.679
<v Speaker 1>he used to do them, at least not at the

1278
01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Division IE level. At the SEC level, he's stuck with

1279
01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:48.840
<v Speaker 1>the current situation. So you've got to try to make

1280
01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:51.239
<v Speaker 1>the best of it. And as I said, sometimes it

1281
01:05:51.320 --> 01:05:56.639
<v Speaker 1>works out. Sometimes it's great. Will Levis's first year at Kentucky, well,

1282
01:05:56.679 --> 01:05:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Liam Cohen and a great old line worked out great

1283
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:05.320
<v Speaker 1>and there was at least one transfer on that old line.

1284
01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:10.320
<v Speaker 1>And then sometimes it doesn't work out. Speaking of times

1285
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:14.840
<v Speaker 1>it works out, what about Syracuse. Syracuse upsets Miami Kyle

1286
01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:17.280
<v Speaker 1>McCord is a big game. And remember this is the

1287
01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:21.280
<v Speaker 1>guy who started his career at Ohio State and I

1288
01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:23.519
<v Speaker 1>believe started for the Buckeyes for a couple of years

1289
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:26.960
<v Speaker 1>before he left, and they couldn't be Michigan when he

1290
01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:31.320
<v Speaker 1>was there, and apparently people blamed him for it. Well,

1291
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Fran Brown as the head coach of Syracuse and was

1292
01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:39.559
<v Speaker 1>catching some flak for a comment he made about sending

1293
01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:45.840
<v Speaker 1>champagne to Ohio State or sending him Kyle McCord, and

1294
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:48.960
<v Speaker 1>on the Jim Rome Show, he said he owes Ryan Day,

1295
01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:53.039
<v Speaker 1>the head coach at Ohio State, a case of champagne,

1296
01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and he made note of the fact that Ohio State

1297
01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:01.320
<v Speaker 1>still lost to Michigan minus Kyle McCord, which kind of

1298
01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:04.639
<v Speaker 1>brought or took Kyle McCord if you're look at it

1299
01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:06.159
<v Speaker 1>that way off the hook.

1300
01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:08.800
<v Speaker 8>So I'm excited for just our communities. You know, everyone

1301
01:07:09.159 --> 01:07:11.280
<v Speaker 8>down there represents him, but just the country to be

1302
01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:14.039
<v Speaker 8>able to see how good of a football player he is.

1303
01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:16.920
<v Speaker 8>And you know, it was kind of put out as

1304
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:19.559
<v Speaker 8>if he was the reason. So I mean, I guess

1305
01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:23.119
<v Speaker 8>after watching him win this weekend, and I don't know

1306
01:07:23.159 --> 01:07:24.880
<v Speaker 8>what happened to that piece of you know, you're seeing

1307
01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:27.920
<v Speaker 8>the same results again. You can't blame Kyle, correct, you know.

1308
01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:30.119
<v Speaker 8>So I'm happy that Kyle was able to go and

1309
01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:32.400
<v Speaker 8>clear his name, come here and show that he's a

1310
01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:36.199
<v Speaker 8>good quarterback. I got I got ridiculed for stateent that

1311
01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:38.760
<v Speaker 8>I wanted to send Ryan Day a bottle of champagne,

1312
01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:41.480
<v Speaker 8>where I wasn't being disrespectful. I was just saying, this

1313
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:43.480
<v Speaker 8>guy is the real deal, and you guys let him

1314
01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:45.679
<v Speaker 8>come in like great, thank you. You know I still

1315
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:48.480
<v Speaker 8>owe him. She's send him some more. She send him cakes,

1316
01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:51.280
<v Speaker 8>not even a bottle. She use my language, but just

1317
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:53.280
<v Speaker 8>extremely excited and thankful for cod.

1318
01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:57.880
<v Speaker 1>At Syracuse coach Fran Brown and Syracuse played a great game,

1319
01:07:58.039 --> 01:08:00.400
<v Speaker 1>obviously beating Miami and show a Kyle m But I

1320
01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:03.159
<v Speaker 1>guess the lesson here because some people got upset about

1321
01:08:03.199 --> 01:08:06.840
<v Speaker 1>that comment, specifically Ohio State fans. You gotta be careful

1322
01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:11.840
<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about other programs, especially in college sports,

1323
01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and especially in college football, because people get their respective

1324
01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:19.720
<v Speaker 1>backs up very very quickly. One other note is we

1325
01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:23.640
<v Speaker 1>go to the break. Were you watching Sunday Night Football?

1326
01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:28.479
<v Speaker 1>But Chris Collinsworth and Mike Turrico. I didn't see this part.

1327
01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:32.079
<v Speaker 1>I was in and out of the game. But evidently

1328
01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Chris Collinsworth's hands look really bad. And at Total pro

1329
01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:46.119
<v Speaker 1>Sports on Twitter tps but that's the avatar or the

1330
01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:50.039
<v Speaker 1>account name. But if you hit at Total pro sports,

1331
01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:55.199
<v Speaker 1>they posted a screen grab and collins worth hands are

1332
01:08:55.239 --> 01:08:59.359
<v Speaker 1>all black and blue. No idea, what's going on, but

1333
01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:06.800
<v Speaker 1>it touched off a flurry of tweets and social media posts.

1334
01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:13.479
<v Speaker 1>Collinsworth has not yet said anything publicly. Some people think

1335
01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:15.920
<v Speaker 1>it's because it was so cold at the game and

1336
01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:20.600
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't wearing gloves. But yeah, it's odd looking. And

1337
01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:24.279
<v Speaker 1>you see in elderly people who bruise easily, and he's

1338
01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:28.199
<v Speaker 1>not elderly. That's my point. Sometimes their skin looks like that,

1339
01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:30.239
<v Speaker 1>or their hands look like that. But a lot of

1340
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:33.039
<v Speaker 1>people out there concerned about Chris Collinsworth, who of course

1341
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:39.479
<v Speaker 1>married a former UK cheerleader and whose dad Collinsworth's dad

1342
01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:42.680
<v Speaker 1>played basketball at UK, and in fact he was up.

1343
01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Collinsworth was for SEC Athlete of the Year and I

1344
01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:52.359
<v Speaker 1>think it was nineteen eighty and Kyle Macy actually won

1345
01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:56.199
<v Speaker 1>the award, but the banquet was here in Lexington and

1346
01:09:56.239 --> 01:09:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I remember Chris collins was saying it was such a

1347
01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:00.479
<v Speaker 1>throw for him to be there as he got a

1348
01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:04.359
<v Speaker 1>chance to meet his hero Nile Macy. Want to come

1349
01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:06.279
<v Speaker 1>on the best of the Big Blue sider up next

1350
01:10:06.319 --> 01:10:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to classic Thanksgiving moment from a great sitcom of several

1351
01:10:11.640 --> 01:10:14.880
<v Speaker 1>years ago. A reminder tomorrow night, we'll look back on

1352
01:10:14.920 --> 01:10:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the calendar year twenty twenty four, lots went on in

1353
01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:24.840
<v Speaker 1>UK athletics, football, baseball, basketball, some shocking news on the

1354
01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:29.399
<v Speaker 1>coaching front, and the Big Blue Nation. Welcome Mark Pope

1355
01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:31.479
<v Speaker 1>back to the Bluegrass. So we'll take a look back

1356
01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:34.399
<v Speaker 1>at all of that coming up tomorrow night as we

1357
01:10:34.399 --> 01:10:37.439
<v Speaker 1>welcome in the year twenty twenty five. Back with more

1358
01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:39.560
<v Speaker 1>of the best of the Big Bloon Insider in just

1359
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:44.840
<v Speaker 1>a minute six thirty WLP welcome back to the best

1360
01:10:44.840 --> 01:10:46.640
<v Speaker 1>of the Big Blue and Sider as we wrap up

1361
01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the year a year twenty twenty four. Hope it has

1362
01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:51.800
<v Speaker 1>been a good one for you. Hope this evening remains

1363
01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:55.119
<v Speaker 1>safe for you and your family. We will wrap up

1364
01:10:55.640 --> 01:10:59.319
<v Speaker 1>with the segment that we closed during our Thanksgiving show

1365
01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:02.880
<v Speaker 1>as we look back on one of the greatest episodes

1366
01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:05.600
<v Speaker 1>in the history of sitcoms. And of course, when you

1367
01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:10.000
<v Speaker 1>talk about Thanksgiving, you've got to talk about WKRP in

1368
01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati and the episode called Turkeys Away. Gave you a

1369
01:11:14.239 --> 01:11:18.479
<v Speaker 1>little history on it and presented the highlight here on

1370
01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:22.199
<v Speaker 1>the best of the Big Blue Insiders. I wanted to

1371
01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:25.880
<v Speaker 1>leave you with everybody's favorite. This is from the Turkeys

1372
01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Away episode of WKRP in Cincinnati. It is considered one

1373
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:34.800
<v Speaker 1>of the most famous, revered episodes of the show, and

1374
01:11:34.880 --> 01:11:38.239
<v Speaker 1>really in all of the history of sitcoms, and in fact,

1375
01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:43.960
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety seven, TV Guide ranked Turkeys Away episode

1376
01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:48.079
<v Speaker 1>at number forty on its one hundred Greatest Episodes of

1377
01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:51.079
<v Speaker 1>All time. In twenty oh nine, it was moved down

1378
01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:53.840
<v Speaker 1>to sixty five. I don't know where it is now

1379
01:11:54.199 --> 01:11:56.399
<v Speaker 1>within one hundred greatest episodes, but it's got to be

1380
01:11:56.520 --> 01:11:59.439
<v Speaker 1>up there. It's got to be up there. Back in

1381
01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:02.720
<v Speaker 1>ninety seven, in the very first at the top of

1382
01:12:02.720 --> 01:12:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the list was the Mary Tyler Moore show Chuckles Bites

1383
01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:09.359
<v Speaker 1>the Dust, And you know, I don't know what's on

1384
01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:12.720
<v Speaker 1>top now. You'd have a hard time replacing that one

1385
01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:16.840
<v Speaker 1>as number one. But Turkey's Away belongs on the top

1386
01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:20.920
<v Speaker 1>one hundred list to me, forever and for all time.

1387
01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:25.760
<v Speaker 1>And you know the story. WKRP, the station in Cincinnati

1388
01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:30.159
<v Speaker 1>that featured doctor Johnny Fever and Venus fly Trap and

1389
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:35.199
<v Speaker 1>les Nessman and Bailey Quarters. They decided they would thanks

1390
01:12:35.239 --> 01:12:41.079
<v Speaker 1>to the big guy, Arthur Carlson stage Thanksgiving promotion, right,

1391
01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:46.000
<v Speaker 1>and so Less goes to report on it in a

1392
01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:50.039
<v Speaker 1>live remote and you hear doctor Johnny Fever tossing it

1393
01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:53.199
<v Speaker 1>to Less out in the field, and what comes next

1394
01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:57.800
<v Speaker 1>is radio magic and its history.

1395
01:12:57.880 --> 01:13:01.039
<v Speaker 9>Less you're still there, Yes, Johnny, you see anything yet?

1396
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Well?

1397
01:13:02.039 --> 01:13:04.439
<v Speaker 9>No, there's quite a crowd though. Where's the big guy?

1398
01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:07.319
<v Speaker 6>I don't know where Carlson is, but we're coming to

1399
01:13:07.359 --> 01:13:08.479
<v Speaker 6>you right after this record.

1400
01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:10.760
<v Speaker 9>Okay, okay, no problem, I can have one.

1401
01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:12.439
<v Speaker 1>Okay, real close.

1402
01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:21.560
<v Speaker 6>Yes, all right, fellow babies, And now it's time to

1403
01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:23.560
<v Speaker 6>go to our live remote Man on the scene at

1404
01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:25.239
<v Speaker 6>the Pinedale Shopping Mall for the.

1405
01:13:25.239 --> 01:13:27.520
<v Speaker 7>Big WKRP Turkey giveaway.

1406
01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:31.600
<v Speaker 9>So take it away, less Ness man, this is less Ness,

1407
01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:33.199
<v Speaker 9>But you're man on the scene here at the Pinedale

1408
01:13:33.239 --> 01:13:35.960
<v Speaker 9>Shopping Center. But the excitement is mounting. We're here to

1409
01:13:36.039 --> 01:13:39.279
<v Speaker 9>witness the big wk on Rookie Thanksgiving giveaway. You got

1410
01:13:39.319 --> 01:13:43.039
<v Speaker 9>permission to be out here? What you're blocking my store?

1411
01:13:43.119 --> 01:13:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Here? Buddy?

1412
01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:45.720
<v Speaker 9>Don't you know who I am?

1413
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Huh?

1414
01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:48.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm less Nessman.

1415
01:13:48.359 --> 01:13:51.720
<v Speaker 9>I won the Buckeye Newshok Award last year for.

1416
01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:56.199
<v Speaker 1>You, Bucky. Now get out of my doorway. I'm sorry, creep.

1417
01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:00.319
<v Speaker 8>Far so good.

1418
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:02.119
<v Speaker 1>I hear hundreds of people who.

1419
01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:04.119
<v Speaker 9>Have gathered to witness what has been described as perhaps

1420
01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:07.520
<v Speaker 9>the greatest Turkey event, and Thanksgiving dang is great. All

1421
01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:08.880
<v Speaker 9>we know for sure is that in a very few

1422
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:11.000
<v Speaker 9>moments they're going to be a lot of happy people

1423
01:14:11.039 --> 01:14:17.319
<v Speaker 9>out here. Now the crowd is the crowd is curious,

1424
01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:22.039
<v Speaker 9>but well behaved. And I think I hear something. Now

1425
01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:27.119
<v Speaker 9>the crowd is moving out into the parking area. And

1426
01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:30.920
<v Speaker 9>oh yes, I can see it now. It's a it's

1427
01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:36.279
<v Speaker 9>a Hello copter and it's coming this way. It's flying

1428
01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:38.359
<v Speaker 9>something behind it. I can't quite make it out. It's

1429
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:53.560
<v Speaker 9>a large banner and it says heavy things kidny from wy.

1430
01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Hey want a site?

1431
01:14:57.840 --> 01:15:01.000
<v Speaker 9>That is, gentlemen, What a sight. The culpter seems to

1432
01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:03.159
<v Speaker 9>be circling in the parking area. Now I guess it's

1433
01:15:03.159 --> 01:15:05.199
<v Speaker 9>looking for a place to land. No, something just came

1434
01:15:05.239 --> 01:15:08.279
<v Speaker 9>out of the back of the helicopter. It's a dark object,

1435
01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:12.079
<v Speaker 9>perhaps a skydiver plumbing to you to the earth, only

1436
01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:12.880
<v Speaker 9>two thousand.

1437
01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Feet into the air.

1438
01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:22.920
<v Speaker 9>Second to the third, No, hirshut yet? Have these skydivers?

1439
01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:26.079
<v Speaker 9>I can't not, you can't run they are, but oh

1440
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:30.199
<v Speaker 9>my god, they're turnkey. I'm going to get this. Oh

1441
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:31.479
<v Speaker 9>I'm cut you to the earth.

1442
01:15:31.319 --> 01:15:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Right We're.

1443
01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Always gonna We're going to win.

1444
01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:38.399
<v Speaker 9>You have a hot had It's just colors running around

1445
01:15:38.479 --> 01:15:39.119
<v Speaker 9>pushing each other.

1446
01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh my it is. Oh there's your moments in there.

1447
01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:45.840
<v Speaker 9>Let me get bombs of The turkeys are hitting the

1448
01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:47.560
<v Speaker 9>ground like sets of what samans.

1449
01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:51.079
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I don't know how much longer they're the

1450
01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:53.880
<v Speaker 1>trot is running for their lives. I think I go

1451
01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:55.880
<v Speaker 1>to step in site. I can't stay up here and

1452
01:15:55.960 --> 01:15:58.039
<v Speaker 1>watch this any moments. No, I can't go in there

1453
01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:04.600
<v Speaker 1>anything like that.

1454
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:07.640
<v Speaker 9>I don't know my division here.

1455
01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Johnny.

1456
01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:13.239
<v Speaker 4>Last, last, are you there?

1457
01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Lass?

1458
01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:15.239
<v Speaker 6>Isn't there?

1459
01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:19.720
<v Speaker 4>Thanks for that?

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<v Speaker 3>On the spot report.

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<v Speaker 9>Last we just tuned in.

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<v Speaker 6>The Pinedale shopping mall has just been bombed with mill

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<v Speaker 6>at eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you cut to the last scene where Less returns

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01:16:36.479 --> 01:16:39.680
<v Speaker 1>to the station, followed by Arthur Carl's scenes with the

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<v Speaker 1>famous last line, are you okay?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know?

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01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:47.199
<v Speaker 1>The man and his two children tried to kill me.

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<v Speaker 9>After the turkey's hit the pavement, the crowd kind of scattered,

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<v Speaker 9>but some of them tried to attack me to gem

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01:16:57.560 --> 01:17:02.119
<v Speaker 9>myself into a phone booth. Then mister Carlson had the

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<v Speaker 9>helicopter land in the middle of the parking lot. I

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<v Speaker 9>guess he thought he could save the day by turning

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<v Speaker 9>the rest of the turkeys loose. It's pretty strange after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's come on now, tell us the rest.

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<v Speaker 9>I really don't know how to describe it. It was

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<v Speaker 9>like the turkeys mounted to counter attack. It was almost

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<v Speaker 9>as if they were organized. As God is my witness,

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<v Speaker 9>I thought turkeys could fly.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Believe it or not, This was based on a

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<v Speaker 1>true story, although it's debated as to where it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people believe it happened at an Atlanta radio station

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<v Speaker 1>w q XI. They called it Quicksie, and that the

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01:17:56.520 --> 01:17:59.199
<v Speaker 1>general manager character was based in part of a guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Jerry Bloom. But Bloom's son Gary said that this

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<v Speaker 1>was not It didn't happen at the Atlanta station, but

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<v Speaker 1>his dad had worked at a station in Dallas in

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<v Speaker 1>the fifties and they did a turkey drop, or actually

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<v Speaker 1>they threw them off the back of a flatbed truck,

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<v Speaker 1>and things did not go really well. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the famous line at the end was actually a take

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<v Speaker 1>on something that Bloom told the Atlanta Journal Constitution in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety six. He actually said, I didn't know turkeys

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't fly, which of course inspired Arthur Carlson's famous line.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did want to share that with you as

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<v Speaker 1>we headed into the Thanksgiving weekend. And I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>had heard someplace that this was based on an event

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01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:50.640
<v Speaker 1>that actually did happen, but wasn't entirely sure where. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet's got it. Although, as we said, some believe

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<v Speaker 1>it happened in Atlanta. But the man who worked at

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<v Speaker 1>both stations, both the WQXI and at a station in Dallas, No,

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01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:04.680
<v Speaker 1>it happened in Dallas, but they did something else in Atlanta.

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01:19:04.720 --> 01:19:06.680
<v Speaker 1>But the turkey drop, which was actually off the back

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<v Speaker 1>of a truck, happened in Dallas in the fifties. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, WQXI and in Atlanta still exists as

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<v Speaker 1>a Korean language station, which I thought was pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And that'll do it for the best of the big

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<v Speaker 1>blon Cider. As we wrap up the calendar year here

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<v Speaker 1>on New Year's Eve, hope you have a great man

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<v Speaker 1>or reminder. Tomorrow night, we'll look back on some of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest moments in UK sports from the year twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. You don't want to miss that. Tomorrow night

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<v Speaker 1>at six o'clock right here. That's it, hoppy new Year, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Good night from the garage in Lexington.

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<v Speaker 9>As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.

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<v Speaker 5>Baaa