WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:06.559 Freddy here. Now, there's a thing about chimneys. They're mostly round. 2 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:12.000 Sometimes you'll get one with hexagonal bas like, but they're 3 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:15.160 not common at all. And in all my lifetime I've 4 00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:19.160 only ever encountered one chimney that were octagonal. You were 5 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:23.160 all right, big bustard too, But like all chimneys I 6 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:26.359 went up against, I was the one left standing at 7 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:30.879 the end of the day, ding ding, what's of dinner time? 8 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:44.759 I'll see the ladies and gentlemen. 9 00:00:44.799 --> 00:00:48.520 Listeners of the Tom and Jerry Show, please welcome the 10 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:52.200 fighter to the left. I'm fighting straight out of temporary 11 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:56.719 the man with the mustache, mister Tom oh money. 12 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:00.920 And of course over there is Jerry Harry's keeping. Yes, 13 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:01.679 how are you doing? 14 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:06.239 It's Tom and Jerry Show Podcast, Extraordinary Ultimate Podcast. One 15 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:08.519 would say, Tom, how are you keeping this week? Before 16 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:09.680 we get into us. 17 00:01:09.560 --> 00:01:12.840 We got bears? You got bears? It's a new teams 18 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:16.120 to have the new tea shirt. No, I didn't get them, 19 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:19.079 but it turns out we had bears and I had forgot. 20 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:21.000 I had put it in the back of my child brain. 21 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:24.719 We went to clear the weekend. It's a long man 22 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:26.640 away from here to there. Went to clear. 23 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:28.560 A lot of people said the other journey in short, 24 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:31.640 I was leaving that gate up, thank you. 25 00:01:31.719 --> 00:01:37.760 We went to Aliwie Caves, Yeah, is highly recommended, brilliant thing. 26 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:41.959 Went to see some unbelievable birds of prey at prey. 27 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:44.680 But we went into this cave at thirty one degrees. 28 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:47.159 When we got into the cave, it was cool ten 29 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:50.439 degrees in there. Oh the way, it was glorious. And 30 00:01:50.480 --> 00:01:53.239 they they what made him famous again, much like all 31 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:55.359 these things around the world. A farmer founder, while chasing 32 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:58.359 his fucking dog, fell the hole, fill the hole and 33 00:01:58.719 --> 00:02:01.760 dug out the hole and went Jesus, the poor bastard. 34 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:04.959 He found it, discovered it, and then two cute fucking 35 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:07.799 hor and neighbors said, we'd buy it after you yeap, 36 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:09.599 cleaned it up and medic what is it on your 37 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:12.759 whole midute ton of money off it. But they found 38 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:16.840 baar bones, bear bones from way back in the Ice 39 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:19.120 age times. Well they reckon, they were right up, They 40 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:21.520 were here up till three They reckoned three thousand years ago. 41 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:24.439 But I don't know, I don't know anyway. 42 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:26.120 You know what I'm going to tell you, Tom, that 43 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:29.639 we're lucky they didn't stick around any longer, said to me. 44 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:34.479 Jerry, Jerry, the bear fighting fucking McBride. So I tell 45 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:36.199 you wanted for the away caves. Tom. We were there 46 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:38.280 at a school tour. So this is thirty years ago. 47 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:41.560 Oh yeah, at a stroll. But one of the tour 48 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:44.120 guides there said something that has stuck with me to 49 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:46.479 this day. Get down after fucking static might. 50 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:49.919 Well it was I was actually stallic mightes. He was saying, okay, 51 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:52.840 we went to the whole class. Does anybody know the 52 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:56.879 difference between staling mites and stalic tights. I'm sure we 53 00:02:56.879 --> 00:02:59.400 were like, I don't know one one's one's the ones 54 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:03.000 this and then even he goes, there's. 55 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:05.159 An easy way of knowing, and he was dead series. 56 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:07.080 He wasn't doing a bit. I think the same guy 57 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:09.039 held onto this bit, but go on, he. 58 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:13.759 Goes a static tight, holds tight to the ceiling, and 59 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:15.199 he goes, okay, what's the stag might he goes the 60 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:15.719 other one. 61 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:22.719 I like that. It's like, you know, you hear that 62 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:25.159 voice over every so often over just funny bits like 63 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:27.360 a guy driving a tractor or something like back in 64 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:30.960 the day, I'm sleeping with two with a beer of twins. 65 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:35.039 People ask me how I told him aport Tina was 66 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:41.960 gorgeous and Bob had a cock. I like those flat, 67 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:45.080 those flatter answers on the the flip side. Yeah, well 68 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:45.520 came here. 69 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:47.680 Listen, we are going to jump into a show ladies 70 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:50.120 and gentlemen. But it's a little bit different this week. 71 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:52.039 It's just every now and then it just gets to. 72 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:52.800 Be a little bit different. 73 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:56.680 When Tom and I are divvying up the podcast and 74 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.639 who's doing what, and you're weekly what have you? And 75 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:02.159 your or we remember whence and indeed you're this lad. 76 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:05.159 Sometimes they all merge into one and we have a 77 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:08.120 bit of a struggle going like, well this lad actually 78 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:11.520 is the weekly what have you? And as we mentioned them, 79 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:12.319 now we could. 80 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:14.159 And it all sort of merges like that. On on 81 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:16.079 occasion we just go fuck it. 82 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:19.399 We can make a fair episode out of this in 83 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:22.800 one goal, and that is what we are doing today, folks, 84 00:04:22.839 --> 00:04:29.160 myself and mostly mister Tom o'maddny, predominantly mister tomu'manney, will 85 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:32.040 be taking a look at the rise in our lifetime 86 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:33.639 of the UFC. 87 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:36.399 If it's a thing that you're going arah, fuck this, 88 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:39.240 trust me, Neither one of us are experts in this. 89 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:42.120 I know a tiny bit more than Jerry, so this 90 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:44.360 will be more We're all holding hands to get through this, 91 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:47.000 so it'll be more crack than it is factual. I 92 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.120 can promise you that. So, and there's not a quiz 93 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:50.879 at the end of it. There isn't, so hold on. 94 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:53.399 This isn't a funny indulgence for myself and Jerry go. 95 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:55.000 You know, we've been waiting for so long. But do 96 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:55.839 you know what this will do? 97 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:56.160 Jr. 98 00:04:56.720 --> 00:05:00.279 Because the UFC gets mentioned so often in just tit 99 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:02.639 bits while dipping in and out of other things. I 100 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:04.639 think this might actually just put a cap on that 101 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:07.439 we might ever speak at the UFC again, unless something 102 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:10.519 fucking unless something else comes around. 103 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:12.160 We were going to just do we remember the rise 104 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:14.000 of the UFC, and it was no chance it would 105 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:14.519 fit into. 106 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:19.040 Not a hope, and we've we've cows to feed. Dam 107 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:21.399 this is the problem. There's cows to be fed, there's 108 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:24.160 and there's you know, all sorts to be milked. We 109 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:26.079 couldn't possibly and it was like that you just rushed 110 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:28.439 through it and evidently you get you would get people 111 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:30.959 going raic for Fox. He missed all this bit more 112 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:34.000 than anything. It's the kind of it snuck up on 113 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:36.040 our lives. And as Jerry was telling me beforehand, he've 114 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:37.959 made a valid point and went, this is the one 115 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:42.079 sport on that's kind of happened. Grown didn't die in 116 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:44.199 a toll, because plenty of sports have died in their hole. 117 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:49.519 A lot of it flourished in a relative shorts to 118 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:52.360 the time that you know, the turtles were nearly out 119 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:52.720 before this. 120 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:56.079 You know, honestly, when you look back at the early 121 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:59.600 seeds of what became to give it as proper title, 122 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:04.800 it's UFC is like McDonald's. The sport itself is mixed 123 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:07.639 martial arts. But the very seeds of that tom like 124 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:09.160 when we look at it, we were looking at that 125 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:11.079 like in the in the early nineties. 126 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:15.360 That's it it was. It was the brainchild of a 127 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:20.959 guy called Art Davy and one of you'll nearly juju 128 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:24.079 nearly want if you've ever smelt martial arts, you have 129 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:28.879 heard of the Grazie family from Brazil. Their father, Horian 130 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:32.000 I think he was Horian, went to Japan to learn 131 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:35.600 jiu jitsu and said, you know what, a bit of capuware, 132 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:38.240 a bit of our natural flexibility, I bet i could 133 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:42.800 do better, and he developed and had registered. I got 134 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:46.000 it registered Brazilian jiu jitsu. You'll often hear just be BJJ, 135 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:48.720 and it is I hate to tell the Japanese legs, 136 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:51.120 but it is a bit more of the time. The 137 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:52.759 two of them came together and kind of joined up 138 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:55.319 with another group to set set this up back in 139 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:57.920 like ninety three to go, and the whole. 140 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:00.000 Swear, I swear it might have been earlier than that, 141 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:03.360 Tom because the one the one introduction that I had 142 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:08.000 to what was Brazilian jiu jitsu was lethal weapon or 143 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:10.360 Brazilian jiu jitsu was young so old at this Dingy 144 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:15.319 mel Gibson is fighting with Brazilian jiu jitsu. When he's fighting, 145 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:17.600 mister Joshua, get that piece of ship off my lawn. 146 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:21.000 And I like, up to that point, the fights that 147 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:23.639 we had seen in movies were like Rocky it was boxing, 148 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:24.839 or was the Karate Kid? 149 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:27.399 It was straight up kung fu. And then you see 150 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:31.079 Mel Gibson getting Gary Busey in like a triangle choke 151 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:32.720 on the ground, and like, what the fuck am I 152 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:35.600 looking at here? Why isn't he just bit his balls off? Yeah? Yeah, oh, 153 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:39.199 this is the thing. That it. There's so many tiny 154 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:41.879 little nuances and you'd nearly go fox Sake, this is 155 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:47.199 too hard for like, there's so many like teams. She went, 156 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:49.279 I get the pointing bone at the edge of my 157 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:51.560 knee around his ankle there, and what I'll do is 158 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:53.680 that form of ful crumb. Like this guy was an 159 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:56.199 engineering genius the way he came up with this fucking thing. 160 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:58.959 But like he started down the road to you know, 161 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:03.839 to better the Japanese jujitsu, there had been like a 162 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.879 year in going I might forget not near fuck im, 163 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:14.199 but he persisted. He developed this and actually had like that. 164 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:17.319 He had actual like Bruce Lee had back in the day, 165 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:21.160 you know, bringing kung fu to the Guilo. He got 166 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:23.480 himself a bunch of people like in America. So at 167 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:25.920 this state, she got himself a bunch of participants to 168 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:29.879 as as students say, his class. But he's still he 169 00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:32.159 fancied himself. He was like, I'd say, I'm after developing 170 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:34.320 anything here that's that could beat this ship out of 171 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:39.519 any form of you know, combat sport anything. 172 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:44.399 We would have to have some sort of tournament to 173 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:46.919 to to see if that statement is actual, Tom, wouldn't. 174 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:49.960 We and that's where businessman Art Davy and he absolutely 175 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:55.000 looks like he no problem like here, you know, he's 176 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:58.039 so if anybody just just google a picture of Art 177 00:08:58.120 --> 00:08:59.960 Davy and he so looks like a businessman you can 178 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:02.679 approach with this mental idea and he's like a like 179 00:09:02.759 --> 00:09:06.200 a kid. And he approached him. And of course he 180 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:10.279 had people in you know, the like the Semaphore Entertainment 181 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:12.480 Group who were like, let's fucking do it, all right. 182 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:14.360 They put you know, these guys were probably the first 183 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:17.720 to put on bull riding mad shite where people might 184 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:21.600 get killed during it, and they put this whole thing together. 185 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:23.519 And the only state that would let it because it 186 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:27.120 was just you see they make it out like McCain 187 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:29.120 and never knocked it back back in the day, was like, no, 188 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:31.679 you're not having that in our state and other centers, 189 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:34.720 you're not having that hour State HiT's human cockfighting and 190 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:38.559 the Army was was like, well those boxing so was boxing, 191 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:42.159 but you see they're in lies. The issue boxing was 192 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:44.600 so powerful. I mean you were talking about the Mike 193 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:49.039 Tyson Ivander Holyfield era. We were like, you know, Riddick 194 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:53.759 Bow you you know, if these phenomenal names and like 195 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:57.600 there's no fucking way the Union of the WBC and 196 00:09:57.639 --> 00:10:00.759 the w you know WBA are going to let this 197 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:06.159 ship into the into their states. But they Denver Colorado, 198 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:09.799 which I would imagine it's probably gone a bit the 199 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:11.600 other way. They probably wouldn't let it in these days, 200 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:15.720 but they allowed it. On November twelfth, nineteen ninety three, 201 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:18.000 they allowed it in. And this was the day of 202 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:21.399 I'm guessing the sort of con fans that would have 203 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:23.480 brought in would have been fucking maniacs to go to 204 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:26.480 you remember e CW. You remember that Mad Ship lads. 205 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:28.320 I was just going to say, probably like the lads 206 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:30.360 to go to the power Slap Lead. Yeah, just like 207 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:33.320 people that just want to see blood boxing is too 208 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:34.240 tame for them. 209 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:36.879 Yeah, they got to see see a bleak you know, 210 00:10:36.960 --> 00:10:39.960 this kind of way, and and that was that was that, 211 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:42.879 And then they made kind of fuck all on that 212 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:44.240 and it kind of died in this whole bit. But 213 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:46.159 they did make a good few pound on the video 214 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:49.600 that went around the world. You'll have all have seen 215 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:51.919 kind of the cover of it as some sage. You know, 216 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.919 it's like a ball guy in his underpants holding two 217 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:57.440 giant fists. Out standing over the world, you know, that 218 00:10:57.519 --> 00:11:00.919 kind of one. You know, if you asked Ai now 219 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:02.279 to make it, that's what it would make. 220 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:05.679 Yeah, am I am I right in saying now that 221 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.759 the very early elements of this mixed martial arts doesn't 222 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:12.799 look like what we would would see nowadays. It really 223 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:15.840 what the style of MMA today is. I do a 224 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:17.120 bit of box and a bit of grappling and do 225 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:19.000 a bit of everything. But back then it was oh, no, 226 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:22.320 I'm a jiu jitsu guy fighting. Well, that is a 227 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:23.159 glass boxer. 228 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:25.440 That's it. You see. It wasn't even trying to develop 229 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:28.159 a new thing, which is what MMA now is. It 230 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:30.679 is its own Like they should give it an Asian name, 231 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:32.399 you know, really like they should give it a cool 232 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:35.159 Asian name now because it genuinely is its own thing. 233 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:38.120 There are things in it we go, oh, that looks 234 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:41.279 like the thing from digitsu elements, that's a shoot from wrestling, 235 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:43.720 or that's you know, double hooks, or that's a tekwondo 236 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.879 style cake or but all put together, you'd have to say, 237 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:49.240 you wouldn't see them, you know, you never see the 238 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:51.440 whole lot of them together and anything. So it's become 239 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:54.440 one thing. No, when it started first, Gracie really was 240 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:57.840 self indulgent to God, of course, he was just going, 241 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.399 let's see who's the f And Bruce Lee tried to 242 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:03.840 putting something like this together years ago. He was like, 243 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:06.879 come at me, Bro, and that's essentially what he was saying. 244 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:10.120 So he put his son. I think it's either his 245 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:12.159 son or his brother. I don't know the Grazy family. 246 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:15.240 They're they're fucking rakes of them. But you would read 247 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:17.840 it as Royce grazy. But Brazilian people say heis, so 248 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:20.440 he's heist crazy. I've heard the name heyst grazy, yes, 249 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:23.799 so he would be introduced to it. And Ken Shamrock 250 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:26.840 was shoot fighting, which is would be kind of wrestling, 251 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:30.679 but to be you know, it's done in boots. You 252 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:33.679 can kick the fucking head off each other. You're a 253 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:36.840 guy called it's street fighting, but he you know what 254 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:39.360 I mean. He was a martial artist like he He 255 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.159 was a tough bastard. Him and his brother more than him. 256 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:48.200 In a second, another guy called uh Gerard Gardieux. He 257 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:51.480 was savat, which I think is a French or it 258 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:54.360 could be wrong of Belgian. I could be fair wrong. 259 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.399 At this night, I think these are all I see there. 260 00:12:56.679 --> 00:12:59.519 These are all individual components that they specialized in, but 261 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:01.320 the MM we would watch the day is very. 262 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:04.759 Much the special fried rice of it all. Now got 263 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:06.720 a bit of fucking everything now you said it now 264 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:09.159 because there was Takwanda from Patty Smith. There was a 265 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:12.279 fellow Ark Jimmerson who's in their boxing, Zayan Fraser was 266 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:15.120 karate and Ken Rosier was kickboxing. And then they had 267 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.559 Tea Tooley who was of simone but he was a 268 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:21.759 sumo guy. Which is I mean, this is this is 269 00:13:21.799 --> 00:13:26.320 street fighter. This is street fighters coming in at the end. Yeah, 270 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:32.000 it really like it's it was the original real life committee. 271 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:36.000 I've got a little something here, Okay, yeah, what have 272 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:38.480 you got? So so so this is like this is 273 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:41.120 like mid nineties and the UFC started to kind of 274 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:46.960 even wasn't you know it wasn't the UFC. Yeah, but 275 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:50.679 the Ultimate Fighter started to gain traction among those No, 276 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:52.279 there was no Internet back in the time, but we 277 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:55.480 became aware that there was a thing that was wrestling 278 00:13:55.600 --> 00:13:57.960 but real it sounded coolish. 279 00:13:57.960 --> 00:13:59.639 Shit, you know, it's wrestling, but you. 280 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:01.960 Really are trying to kill each other. I took a 281 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:04.480 look back through my old Power Slam magazines which is 282 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:06.600 no restaurant magazine. I used to collect in the in 283 00:14:06.639 --> 00:14:10.000 the in the nineties, and they started releasing annuals with 284 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:12.320 all the all the back issues in it and as 285 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:15.000 much as they would do wrestling results from from all 286 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:19.279 around the world and or yeah look here sorry, talk 287 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:22.519 about yourselves. So here's for everything that happened, everything that 288 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:24.919 happened in e c W. And then they would have 289 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:30.159 just the one smallest little column for UFC as and 290 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:32.639 when it happened, I mean, yeah, yeah, get a month 291 00:14:32.679 --> 00:14:36.120 when we had some UFC on yeah, and and this 292 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:39.039 was as much you knew about the UFC. 293 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:39.440 Here we go. 294 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:45.120 UFC Championship seven held in Buffalo, New York, Mark Hall, 295 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:49.080 Jerry Harris, uh and and there's a man there, Ken 296 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:50.080 Wayne Shamrock. 297 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:52.159 Ken Wayne Shamrock used to go by the three names 298 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:52.879 until someone. 299 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:56.120 Said, you know, we don't need it. We actually believe 300 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:58.039 that you are a serial killer. You don't have to 301 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:00.559 have the middle name with it, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 302 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:03.759 rested on fourteen cans of murder Kane Wayne Shamrock. Now 303 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:07.000 that's someone got the pr So it was starting to 304 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:11.080 leak into what you and I would know as as 305 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:13.120 a thing, and if we knew about it without the 306 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:16.080 Internet time, it had to be making some waves somewhere. 307 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:20.000 I ID magazines kind of like that. They just you know, 308 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:22.639 it didn't let up as as immaculate as your once 309 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:26.080 back in the ninety but yeah, I remember I did. 310 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:29.000 I had a I'd won't say a subscription, but I'd 311 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:31.360 get it anytime. I don't know if pocket money would 312 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:35.360 be martial arts magazines, and it verably, it was so 313 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:37.559 envious of all the American guys because they'd such a 314 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:40.360 good tournament set up, like not no a fellows have 315 00:15:40.360 --> 00:15:43.000 one hundred fucking trophies by the end of the litter, 316 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:45.519 like you know, and you're gonna get to fight every 317 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:48.480 three months. That's it because we just didn't have them here. 318 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:52.200 So so just sticking on wrestling for one little second. 319 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:54.919 This is like mid nineties, ninety five, ninety six, and 320 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:58.200 that man we just mentioned there, Kane Wayne Shamrock, made 321 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:00.600 the leap over to the ww F and round about 322 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:02.960 ninety seven ninty eight with another guy called Dan Severn, 323 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:07.080 and they were the quote unquote shoot fighters like when 324 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:08.679 they came. And I want to say that it was 325 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.320 a big get for WWF at the time to sign 326 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:14.120 these people like it was okay, you know that hot 327 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:16.519 shit new thing that UFC everybody's been hearing about over 328 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:17.480 the last five or six years. 329 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:19.519 Well, we got a couple of their stars. 330 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:21.759 To come in and and do it with us. Not 331 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:25.279 unheard of, still happens to this day, and Ken Shamrock 332 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:27.159 was probably the guy that that got to be the 333 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:29.639 biggest of that. Now, I didn't see any UFC at 334 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:31.799 the time, but I was watching the wrestling and Ken 335 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:35.639 Shamrock was there looking like he was about to fucking marbles. 336 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:37.960 Yeah, he came up like he was. He was in 337 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:42.240 the first one. Obviously his brother showed up. I mean 338 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:43.720 they're both adopted, you know what I mean. But they 339 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:47.399 both took the Shamrock name from their father. Marketing. Baby, 340 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:49.879 it's it's a marketing it's a great name, fighter's name. 341 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:56.360 It's a great name. No connection with Ireland whatsoever. He Yeah, 342 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:58.679 he came over and he was a huge success because 343 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:03.200 he looked great, good looking. But but you know, this 344 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:05.480 fellow hadn't a pro wrestlers face. This guy had a 345 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:08.759 face that had taken a fucking heighten for a long time, 346 00:17:09.079 --> 00:17:13.400 but a body which was a great time in UFC 347 00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:16.519 because this was the early nineties. It was at this 348 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:19.759 stage now it had kind of like it was still 349 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:23.119 circling the fucking drain. Really, it didn't know what it was. 350 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:25.960 And it was a lot of small businesses tom struggling 351 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:26.799 in the early years. 352 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:29.400 And this is the thing. They obviously didn't have the 353 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:33.519 wherewo all to pay what senators they needed to pay. 354 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:36.119 This is the reality of it, like because as we 355 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:39.200 know about American sports, any sports, but American sports especially 356 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:44.599 money glasses over everything. And but they'd gotten him in 357 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:46.960 the nineties, and a lot of them at that stage, 358 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:50.559 like they like some Mark Kerr, who the Rock just 359 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:54.200 played in a Yes, Mark Coleman, there was a couple 360 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:56.480 of they were like Don Fry. A lot of people 361 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:59.359 will see image of Don Fry outstanding mustache, known as 362 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:06.960 the Predator. But we're jacked to the fucking max because what. 363 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:09.519 Was the what was the steroid testing like back then. 364 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:13.160 It it was it was all right up there with 365 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:16.440 have you ever seen Basco? Never? Right, no steroids and 366 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:20.160 you then that's where it was at. It was gloriously 367 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:24.039 fucking loosey goosey, And it was great because lads lads 368 00:18:24.039 --> 00:18:28.240 were just fucking monsters. Like it didn't it didn't it can. 369 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:32.240 I think it was actually the dreamy scenario we described 370 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:36.240 in the Steroid Olympics that we wanted to see mid 371 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:40.559 to late nineties in mixed martial arts, the UFC was 372 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:42.680 some of the greatest things you'll ever see because these 373 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:45.839 mutants will walk out from behind the curtain and this 374 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:48.359 was There was no pomp, there was no fucking oh 375 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:50.720 holding a fucking four to two in the year. These 376 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:53.799 lads were going out and I was like, you you 377 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:56.519 might fight three times in the night. The way they 378 00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:59.400 ended up organizing it after a while, like there was 379 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:01.240 K one then was like one fight in the night 380 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:03.640 or one tournament in the night, and that was interested. 381 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:06.240 Okay one was a similar thing, but it was based 382 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:08.440 off of the back of kickboxing, but it was the 383 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:11.799 Japanese and it wasn't pride another thing. Pride is, yeah, 384 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:14.440 pride is another thing. It was pride still holds and 385 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:16.240 a lot of fellas tipped the cap to that. They're 386 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:19.319 like a lot of fucking big Dad. He's like fado 387 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:23.880 A Milionenko, who would have been considered the greatest that 388 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:26.720 has ever done it. Never came to the UFC because 389 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:28.559 he was like, I don't need them when they are 390 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:33.480 like Japanese men and Euroka. I don't know if they 391 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:35.160 looked into his backstory with the men ever make it 392 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:39.160 back out of but the money was never there. It 393 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:40.880 was never right for him, and that was the one 394 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:43.480 apparently they but he was one of the few that 395 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:45.119 just looked like a dead bod. But he was the 396 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:48.559 real fable against fighting. But they were gloriously jacked, Jerry. 397 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:55.119 They were fucking massive. It was great, and they the 398 00:19:55.400 --> 00:19:56.880 fucking brain cells out of each other. 399 00:19:57.000 --> 00:19:59.319 Was this I want to this, I want to linger 400 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:01.160 on for just a that second because if there was 401 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:04.440