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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back political panel time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how exciting that is Democratic strategist to meet

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<v Speaker 2>across and Republican strategist Jesse.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jesse, all right. We don't a lot of spend.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of time here analyzing photographs from like a

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<v Speaker 2>magazine like like Guns and Ammo or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>or Outdoor World or whatever. But there's this picture posted

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend. Marjorie Taylor Green, Tucker Carlson, Joe Kent, her

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<v Speaker 2>new husband Brian. That is SA MTG's and Tom Massey

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the movement. This is like the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>something big. Is this a rip on society stuff from Wisconsin?

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<v Speaker 2>The formation something new and important in Republican world.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, probably about as relevant as you know.

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<v Speaker 3>A collection of never Trumper's coming together in the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen aftermath of Trump getting elected. No, I see a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people who you know. Tucker Carlson said it

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<v Speaker 3>quite well in an interview with The New York Times

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<v Speaker 3>is Lulu Garcia Naborrow Not too long ago he got

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<v Speaker 3>asked about economic policy, okay, and he said that the

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<v Speaker 3>truth is the GOP establishment is wrong. Conservatives, traditional conservatives

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<v Speaker 3>are wrong. We've got to do more like what the

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<v Speaker 3>far left is offering. He gets asked about foreign policy,

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<v Speaker 3>he says, the truth is Republicans and the GOP establishment

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<v Speaker 3>are wrong. Conservatives have gotten wrong. We got to do

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<v Speaker 3>more about like what the far left is offering. And

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<v Speaker 3>then he gets asked about social and cultural issues and

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<v Speaker 3>he says, honestly, all of that is just a distraction

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<v Speaker 3>from what a raw deal Americans are getting on foreign

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<v Speaker 3>and economic policy. And then it's like one plus one

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<v Speaker 3>equals too, Like you're just a subversive, You're just a nihilist.

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<v Speaker 3>You're just someone who's advocating for the exact same agenda

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<v Speaker 3>as the hard left. You know, I'm still waiting to

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<v Speaker 3>see Graham Plattner now that he's available in Maine. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>go on to his neighbor's show, Tucker Carlson at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>A big show. Do you diagram all this?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that Tucker is onto something here. As somebody

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<v Speaker 4>who's personally not Tucker fan, I think that Tucker is

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<v Speaker 4>actually very smart and strategic. He recognizes what the polling

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<v Speaker 4>numbers look like for Trump, he recognizes what the polling

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<v Speaker 4>numbers look like for the Republican Party, and he also

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<v Speaker 4>recognizes that this war is extremely unpopular in rid Stay's,

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<v Speaker 4>Blue Stays, Purple States, and anywhere in between, and would

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<v Speaker 4>like for Trump to get back to the things that

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<v Speaker 4>got him a in the first place. I think that

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<v Speaker 4>putting together this assemblance of other people who are not

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<v Speaker 4>the same as never trumpers. Those individuals, I think jumped

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<v Speaker 4>the cart before the horse a while ago and never

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<v Speaker 4>got any real traction. This is a very different situation

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<v Speaker 4>because they've waited for a specific moment. These are people

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<v Speaker 4>who are hardline supporters of Donald Trump, not only through

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<v Speaker 4>his first administration, but also through the majority of the

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<v Speaker 4>second one until it started taking a very different toll

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<v Speaker 4>and the American public started pushing back. They have a

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<v Speaker 4>very interesting lane to lean into, and I think that

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<v Speaker 4>this is going to be something that they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>do throughout the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>Of his term. Also want to update the audience on something.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just announced this afternoon by the House Ethics Committee.

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<v Speaker 2>It is going to recommend the House censure Representative Chuck Edwards.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because the committee has decided, based on its investigation,

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<v Speaker 2>that Edwards violated House rules related to sexual harassment and

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<v Speaker 2>hostile workplaces.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesse seems bad on its face, Yeah, it seems bad obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean there's more and more of this kind of

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<v Speaker 3>behavior coming out about elected officials. We'll have to see

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<v Speaker 3>what the details of the investigation bear out, but obviously

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<v Speaker 3>this is more negative press that GOP members of Congress

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<v Speaker 3>do not need heading into an election cycle that has

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<v Speaker 3>already proven to be quite turbulent for them.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure men will be their own undoing. Unfortunately, for many,

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<v Speaker 4>there were no lessons taken from the Me Too movement,

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<v Speaker 4>and we keep seeing more and more amplified behavior. I

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<v Speaker 4>would argue that we have a president in the White

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<v Speaker 4>House who has time and time again, even when faced

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<v Speaker 4>with his own with his own behavioral issues when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to women's sexual abuse and sexual assault, has been

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<v Speaker 4>somebody who continued to rise. So many people within his

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<v Speaker 4>own party feel as though they will as well. Even

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<v Speaker 4>though in this case we have not necessarily heard specific

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<v Speaker 4>proven allegations of sexual assult or sexual abuse. What we

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<v Speaker 4>do see as a very legitimate pattern of what is

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<v Speaker 4>called love bombing by somebody who was in a position

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<v Speaker 4>of power and who utilize that for a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people who were just getting started in their careers. It's

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<v Speaker 4>objectable behavior. On its face, it also says something I

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<v Speaker 4>think that should send shockwaves across multiple sides of the

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<v Speaker 4>political aisle and spectrum. Young women should be allowed to

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<v Speaker 4>enter into government fields, should be allowed to enter into

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<v Speaker 4>social justice or other justice related activities without necessarily having

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<v Speaker 4>to fall under the weight of men who cannot control

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<v Speaker 4>themselves or their urges.

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<v Speaker 1>What's at stake in Michigan tomorrow? Justice? From your perspective, well,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>This is my home state, so I'm obviously paying very

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<v Speaker 3>close attention to it. Look, this is a clear sign

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<v Speaker 3>about where the future of the Democratic Party is headed.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got a sort of establishment, moderate, mainstream Democratic candidate

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<v Speaker 3>in Haley Stevens. She's got all the advantages of the

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<v Speaker 3>world in terms of financial support.

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<v Speaker 2>And endorsements from popular state wide Democratic.

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<v Speaker 3>Official, including the incumbent governor, who is quite popular in

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<v Speaker 3>the state. And yet it seems more likely than not,

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<v Speaker 3>if you believe most of the poland that's out there,

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<v Speaker 3>she is poised to lose to a hard left insurgent

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<v Speaker 3>candidate who has, in my opinion, campaigned with some pretty

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<v Speaker 3>egregious characters like Hassan Piker, who has suggested that America

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<v Speaker 3>deserve nine to eleven that Jews are inbred. And this candidate,

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<v Speaker 3>Abdul al Said, is someone who struggled to condemn the

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<v Speaker 3>Temple Israel near massacre. Well, when someone from Dearborn Heights

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<v Speaker 3>via Lebanon nearly rammed an explosive laden truck into a

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<v Speaker 3>Jewish preschool with one hundred and forty kids inside it

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<v Speaker 3>a synagogue, and this is someone, in El Saiet's case,

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<v Speaker 3>who said that it was a risk to condemn that

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<v Speaker 3>attack in any way, shape or form. So there's clearly

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<v Speaker 3>a temptation for more subversive, transgressive politics on the democratic

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<v Speaker 3>side of the aisle, and I think that El Said

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<v Speaker 3>is flirting with it, and he's likely to be rewarded.

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<v Speaker 1>Missus stake in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 4>From your perspective, there's a temptation for change. There is

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<v Speaker 4>a temptation for thinking beyond obvious realities and making sure

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<v Speaker 4>that you're addressing the calls of today and not reminding

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<v Speaker 4>us of a yesteryear that we will never return to.

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<v Speaker 4>What l Said has done, and he has done strongly,

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<v Speaker 4>is showcase a path forward in healthcare, a path forward

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<v Speaker 4>and education of affordability, a path forward and housing affordability.

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<v Speaker 4>And he is speaking to a generation of people who

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<v Speaker 4>want to see affordability not only as a platform issue,

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<v Speaker 4>but want to move into what that actually looks like

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<v Speaker 4>in real time and not have status quo politics. And

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<v Speaker 4>unfortunately for his for his opponents, he is literally running

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<v Speaker 4>a campaign that might have worked in twenty sixteen, possibly

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<v Speaker 4>twenty fourteen, but damn sure does not work in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Six Let me Sha cross, just the arm. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much, appreciate