Speaker 1: Welcome back political panel time.
Speaker 2: You know how exciting that is Democratic strategist to meet
Speaker 2: across and Republican strategist Jesse.
Speaker 1: I'm Jesse, all right. We don't a lot of spend.
Speaker 2: A lot of time here analyzing photographs from like a
Speaker 2: magazine like like Guns and Ammo or something like that,
Speaker 2: or Outdoor World or whatever. But there's this picture posted
Speaker 2: this weekend. Marjorie Taylor Green, Tucker Carlson, Joe Kent, her
Speaker 2: new husband Brian. That is SA MTG's and Tom Massey
Speaker 2: talk about the movement. This is like the beginning of
Speaker 2: something big. Is this a rip on society stuff from Wisconsin?
Speaker 2: The formation something new and important in Republican world.
Speaker 3: I don't know, probably about as relevant as you know.
Speaker 3: A collection of never Trumper's coming together in the twenty
Speaker 3: sixteen aftermath of Trump getting elected. No, I see a
Speaker 3: lot of people who you know. Tucker Carlson said it
Speaker 3: quite well in an interview with The New York Times
Speaker 3: is Lulu Garcia Naborrow Not too long ago he got
Speaker 3: asked about economic policy, okay, and he said that the
Speaker 3: truth is the GOP establishment is wrong. Conservatives, traditional conservatives
Speaker 3: are wrong. We've got to do more like what the
Speaker 3: far left is offering. He gets asked about foreign policy,
Speaker 3: he says, the truth is Republicans and the GOP establishment
Speaker 3: are wrong. Conservatives have gotten wrong. We got to do
Speaker 3: more about like what the far left is offering. And
Speaker 3: then he gets asked about social and cultural issues and
Speaker 3: he says, honestly, all of that is just a distraction
Speaker 3: from what a raw deal Americans are getting on foreign
Speaker 3: and economic policy. And then it's like one plus one
Speaker 3: equals too, Like you're just a subversive, You're just a nihilist.
Speaker 3: You're just someone who's advocating for the exact same agenda
Speaker 3: as the hard left. You know, I'm still waiting to
Speaker 3: see Graham Plattner now that he's available in Maine. Maybe
Speaker 3: go on to his neighbor's show, Tucker Carlson at some point.
Speaker 1: A big show. Do you diagram all this?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: I think that Tucker is onto something here. As somebody
Speaker 4: who's personally not Tucker fan, I think that Tucker is
Speaker 4: actually very smart and strategic. He recognizes what the polling
Speaker 4: numbers look like for Trump, he recognizes what the polling
Speaker 4: numbers look like for the Republican Party, and he also
Speaker 4: recognizes that this war is extremely unpopular in rid Stay's,
Speaker 4: Blue Stays, Purple States, and anywhere in between, and would
Speaker 4: like for Trump to get back to the things that
Speaker 4: got him a in the first place. I think that
Speaker 4: putting together this assemblance of other people who are not
Speaker 4: the same as never trumpers. Those individuals, I think jumped
Speaker 4: the cart before the horse a while ago and never
Speaker 4: got any real traction. This is a very different situation
Speaker 4: because they've waited for a specific moment. These are people
Speaker 4: who are hardline supporters of Donald Trump, not only through
Speaker 4: his first administration, but also through the majority of the
Speaker 4: second one until it started taking a very different toll
Speaker 4: and the American public started pushing back. They have a
Speaker 4: very interesting lane to lean into, and I think that
Speaker 4: this is going to be something that they're going to
Speaker 4: do throughout the rest.
Speaker 1: Of his term. Also want to update the audience on something.
Speaker 2: It was just announced this afternoon by the House Ethics Committee.
Speaker 2: It is going to recommend the House censure Representative Chuck Edwards.
Speaker 2: Why because the committee has decided, based on its investigation,
Speaker 2: that Edwards violated House rules related to sexual harassment and
Speaker 2: hostile workplaces.
Speaker 3: Jesse seems bad on its face, Yeah, it seems bad obviously.
Speaker 3: I mean there's more and more of this kind of
Speaker 3: behavior coming out about elected officials. We'll have to see
Speaker 3: what the details of the investigation bear out, but obviously
Speaker 3: this is more negative press that GOP members of Congress
Speaker 3: do not need heading into an election cycle that has
Speaker 3: already proven to be quite turbulent for them.
Speaker 4: I'm sure men will be their own undoing. Unfortunately, for many,
Speaker 4: there were no lessons taken from the Me Too movement,
Speaker 4: and we keep seeing more and more amplified behavior. I
Speaker 4: would argue that we have a president in the White
Speaker 4: House who has time and time again, even when faced
Speaker 4: with his own with his own behavioral issues when it
Speaker 4: comes to women's sexual abuse and sexual assault, has been
Speaker 4: somebody who continued to rise. So many people within his
Speaker 4: own party feel as though they will as well. Even
Speaker 4: though in this case we have not necessarily heard specific
Speaker 4: proven allegations of sexual assult or sexual abuse. What we
Speaker 4: do see as a very legitimate pattern of what is
Speaker 4: called love bombing by somebody who was in a position
Speaker 4: of power and who utilize that for a lot of
Speaker 4: people who were just getting started in their careers. It's
Speaker 4: objectable behavior. On its face, it also says something I
Speaker 4: think that should send shockwaves across multiple sides of the
Speaker 4: political aisle and spectrum. Young women should be allowed to
Speaker 4: enter into government fields, should be allowed to enter into
Speaker 4: social justice or other justice related activities without necessarily having
Speaker 4: to fall under the weight of men who cannot control
Speaker 4: themselves or their urges.
Speaker 1: What's at stake in Michigan tomorrow? Justice? From your perspective, well,
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 3: This is my home state, so I'm obviously paying very
Speaker 3: close attention to it. Look, this is a clear sign
Speaker 3: about where the future of the Democratic Party is headed.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: You've got a sort of establishment, moderate, mainstream Democratic candidate
Speaker 3: in Haley Stevens. She's got all the advantages of the
Speaker 3: world in terms of financial support.
Speaker 2: And endorsements from popular state wide Democratic.
Speaker 3: Official, including the incumbent governor, who is quite popular in
Speaker 3: the state. And yet it seems more likely than not,
Speaker 3: if you believe most of the poland that's out there,
Speaker 3: she is poised to lose to a hard left insurgent
Speaker 3: candidate who has, in my opinion, campaigned with some pretty
Speaker 3: egregious characters like Hassan Piker, who has suggested that America
Speaker 3: deserve nine to eleven that Jews are inbred. And this candidate,
Speaker 3: Abdul al Said, is someone who struggled to condemn the
Speaker 3: Temple Israel near massacre. Well, when someone from Dearborn Heights
Speaker 3: via Lebanon nearly rammed an explosive laden truck into a
Speaker 3: Jewish preschool with one hundred and forty kids inside it
Speaker 3: a synagogue, and this is someone, in El Saiet's case,
Speaker 3: who said that it was a risk to condemn that
Speaker 3: attack in any way, shape or form. So there's clearly
Speaker 3: a temptation for more subversive, transgressive politics on the democratic
Speaker 3: side of the aisle, and I think that El Said
Speaker 3: is flirting with it, and he's likely to be rewarded.
Speaker 1: Missus stake in Michigan.
Speaker 4: From your perspective, there's a temptation for change. There is
Speaker 4: a temptation for thinking beyond obvious realities and making sure
Speaker 4: that you're addressing the calls of today and not reminding
Speaker 4: us of a yesteryear that we will never return to.
Speaker 4: What l Said has done, and he has done strongly,
Speaker 4: is showcase a path forward in healthcare, a path forward
Speaker 4: and education of affordability, a path forward and housing affordability.
Speaker 4: And he is speaking to a generation of people who
Speaker 4: want to see affordability not only as a platform issue,
Speaker 4: but want to move into what that actually looks like
Speaker 4: in real time and not have status quo politics. And
Speaker 4: unfortunately for his for his opponents, he is literally running
Speaker 4: a campaign that might have worked in twenty sixteen, possibly
Speaker 4: twenty fourteen, but damn sure does not work in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Six Let me Sha cross, just the arm. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much, appreciate