Speaker 1: Why they talk so openly in the emails is that
they genuinely believe they were sort of about this untouchable
class and that nothing could happen to them countless gigantic
Roman Catholic profiles, for example, we're using this as a
supposed proof that Hope Francis I kid you not had
hacked and taken down Epstein.
Speaker 2: In fact, quite the opposite.
Speaker 1: It suggested that this person a who was connected Epstein
also had a Vatican passport, So that's undermining the legitimacy
of the Vatican. And he said back in two thousand
and six in his book Reefs through the Future, We're
going to create a global interlinked brain. It will be
the golumn of Jewish cabalistic mythology.
Speaker 3: So who's really at the top, who's really pulling the strings,
and what is their ultimate goal. Someone who's been on
the case of answering those questions specifically for many years
is Jaydiah and he joins us today to dig into
this eyes wide shut, real life conspiracy. Jaydya, thank you
so much for joining us today. We appreciate you being here.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Maria, always loved with you. It's a great,
big conversation.
Speaker 3: Every time, absolutely one of the Well, the main reason
we're talking today again is that I know that you've
been putting a tremendous amount of work into the Epstein files.
Speaker 4: You've been one of the most.
Speaker 3: Relentless streamers and researchers on these files, and so it's
going to be really interesting to get your perspective. I
want to start with your tweet here as wide shut
is proven real puts the famous Rothschild masked ball photos
in a new light. Given the Epstein files, this has
been the means of control for a long time. So
before we zoom in onto specifics, Jay, talk to us
about the zoomed out forty thousand foot view of the files.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think what it really confirms is something that I
read two thousand and three, so over twenty years ago,
I read a book on ritual abuse in the Catholic
Church by William Kennedy, who was a journalist writing one
of the first books on that topic, and it sort
of introduced me to the idea that there's large scale
networking of organized crime that interlinks at a very high
level in the realms of finance, in the realms of academia,
realms of government, you name it, Hollywood celebrities, they all
have these networks that seem to have a high degree
of control.
Speaker 2: And after that I.
Speaker 1: Read some other texts that dealt with these organized crime
that kind of stuff, and that led me down the
route of espionage and geopolitics. And on my channel we've
recently done some lectures on books, not just Whitney webs
but some other books on the history of espionage, honeytraps,
et cetera. So all that research was sort of coalescing
into these files all being vindicated.
Speaker 2: I mean, even to the point of transhumanism, you name it.
Speaker 1: Like every element of what we think of as kind
of fringe theory conspiracy of THESS over the last several decades,
is all now confirmed.
Speaker 2: And this is, you know, how the world's really run.
Speaker 1: It's really actually run by these high level networks that
are able to compromise high level people.
Speaker 2: But not just that, it's also.
Speaker 1: Drawing in CEOs, getting them on board with you know,
the plan that in this case, I think not just
the Israeli intelligence operations but also the CIA too, and
British intelligence something the Five Eyes intelligence apparatus all sort
of utilized the same intelligence that Epstein could provide.
Speaker 2: He also was involved in.
Speaker 1: Bringing in tech people transhumanism with Zora Ranch, so all
of that collates into you know, like you said, I
think I did thirty hours of livestream in the first
week as these were coming out, and that particular tweet
that you're talking about there. I had put in my
book back in twenty sixteen on Hollywood. One of the
first chapters dealt with the Rothschilds and their portrayal in
film and how many films are actually telling us that
not just using rock Child mansions for the films and
for the sex cults, but this is kind of what
they actually do.
Speaker 2: So that's where we're at. All the movie stuff is
now real.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm really glad that the links about transhumanism are
coming out. I also wonder what the trans community thinks
about this, as in the transgender community, considering that, you know,
it's come out in the files that Epstein was heavily,
heavily invested and related to the sort of birth of
transgenderism propaganda. It's pretty much everything that we look at
that's toxic in society can be linked back to Epstein.
But I really would love to sort of talk about
how this is just not just one man. Jay, But
it's interesting that this is kind of it seems like
so much of this has gone through one man.
Speaker 4: And I want to.
Speaker 3: Ask you, because obviously this agenda comes from up higher.
Do you think Epstein was the only one or are
we just part of me peeking into, you know, inches
of this real agenda.
Speaker 1: No, like you said in the Bannon In interview, which
I did a livestream covering the entire Bandon interview, he
said at the very beginning that he was recruited into
the Trilateral Commission in nineteen ninety by the Kissinger circles
and David Rockefeller to be a steering committee member. So
he's sort of the legate of David Rockefeller, which shows
again for those of us that have covered the CFR
and the spin off Steering Committee group the Trilateral Commission,
which was created in the nineteen seventies for Brazenski himself
to run at a higher level. This is again vindication
of the very networks that we talked about, the Rothschilds,
the Rockefellers. They're a control over the nations through the
intelligence apparatus. Is exactly what these files shows. So it's
absolutely an international global network, and it's the very networks
and steering committees and groups that we've talked about, such
as Bilderberg, such as Atham House, British Intelligence. It's all
interconnected exactly as we suspected. And it's not accidental that
he's friends with, you know, the Royal family, because the
Royal family also seems to have had a very close
relationship with the other infamous PDF trafficker, Jimmy Saville. Those
are a lot of parallels between Savill and Epstein. However,
Epstein was very, very high up, as much higher up
in the power structure than Savill was, and I think
that's all been demonstrated probably to most people surprised, you know,
that he was up that high, because that's near the
top of the pyramid. You're not David rock Piller's league
Gate if you're just some random, you know, criminal or
organized crime figure. This is why the second day, one
of the emails that came out was that he had
had planned to meet about fifteen heads of state across
the world.
Speaker 2: You don't do that unless.
Speaker 1: You have you know, a high degree of you know protection,
you're almost perhaps an untouchable I think that's why they
talk so openly in the emails, is that they genuinely
believe they were sort of about this untouchable class and
that nothing could happen to them, which again suggests obvious
intelligence cover and probably not just you know, Massad, but
also CIM, also Verish intelligence, all probably utilizing and protecting
somebody at this high level to engage in, as my
tweet says, perhaps even to the level of hunting people.
Speaker 2: It's not exactly clear whether they're.
Speaker 1: Quote joking, but I think that given all the other
things that we see, it's not hard to believe. If
we've seen emails hinting at assassination, emails hinting at torture,
it's not out of the remal possibility that it could
include even more degenerate practices.
Speaker 3: I think from memory, I saw an email referencing a
hunt if I'm not mistaken as well. So you know,
when you consider the depravity of these people, and these
files essentially confirming all of our theories over the years,
and all of that research over the years, it's very
likely that those types.
Speaker 5: Of things were occurring. I want to ask you about
that Rothchild connection.
Speaker 3: It's very interesting because I don't know if people are
aware of this, but there are people tracking it.
Speaker 5: Every day, there's more and.
Speaker 3: More files being removed from the DOJ's database relating to
the wrothchilds. I mean, like every day we're seeing tens,
if not hundreds of files slowly coming off the release,
and I guess no one's really answering why that's occurring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a push
to cover some of these things up. Of course, I
think a lot of people have already moved the databases elsewhere,
so hopefully we have copies of all that at.
Speaker 2: Some other location.
Speaker 1: But and yes, we're still waiting on many other files,
which you know, who knows. Can you imagine what they
haven't released if what we've seen so far is so
insanely incriminating and far worse, and I think most people expected,
you know, I remember hearing about Epstein for the first time,
I think in twenty sixteen, and I remember Ben Swann
did a report on Lolita Express back then for our Tea.
I remember Alex Jones was covering Lolita Express around twenty
seventeen as well. I know he covered it earlier, but
that's the first time I recall hearing about it, and
you know, we all kind of thought about this as, Okay,
this is just one of these operations within some power
block of networks of the world trying to entrap people.
Speaker 2: And then we heard about the Black Book.
Speaker 1: I had Nick Bryant on and he was the original
journalist at Gawker and that posted Epstein's Black Book many
years ago, and then we got to see more and more,
and then Whitney Webb's book came out, which was a
really well researched piece of piece of data connecting a
lot of things to international intelligence operations that he originally
comes out of Wall Street bear Stearns. He's recruited into
these operations through Bill Barr during the when Bill var
was coming out of the OSS and the Dalton School.
Hat Ce all kind of places him in a position
to be then recruited into the Maxwell operation, which we
know is a massad operation with Robert Maxwell being a
very high powered cutout for Israeli intelligence and British intelligence,
being given the sort of billion dollar publishing empire, and
then being offed by the masaud According to Jeffrey in
one of the emails, which is kind of what everybody
expected for playing both sides in the Cold War. Which
vindicates the analysis that my friend Mark Hackard had given
years ago when he translated the KGB archives about Maxwell,
because the KGB were actually suspicious that Maxwell was trying
to play both sides in Lowholle. That's exactly apparently what
was going on, given Jeffery's email and its admission about
why he was killed. But it also ties in elements
not just the Rothchilds and the rockefellergy pointed out many
Rocks elements have come forward, which include the continuation of
their model of basically gaming markets on the basis of
advanced intelligence. And this is funny because I was just
reviewing the classic authorized Rothschild's biography that I have by Morton,
and in the first chapter, it's about page fifty or sixty,
he gets into discussing how they really did buy up
the London stock market when it crashed due to advanced
intelligence in regard to Waterloo. And that's funny because you
fast forward to only a few years ago the email
exchange between Oriana to Rothchild and Epstein, and they were
discussing the exact same methodology of how to go into
countries where there's a collapse and you buy it up
as it's collapsing, whether it's Ukraine, whether it's the Greek
bailout debt crisis back in the two thousands and the
twenty tens when we had the bailouts for the European banks.
It's the same model of crisis capitalism, I guess you
could say, or viper capitalism.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Confessions of an Economic hit Man touched stuff that John
Perkins wrote about so many years ago.
Speaker 2: So that's the model of how they gained these things.
Speaker 1: And he even sort of makes the joke that the
goiam don't understand the inside intelligence that we have, which
is just really just insider trading.
Speaker 2: And he says they operate on.
Speaker 1: An external, normal world view of how the world works,
and we have the inner track because we have the
intelligence on the inside as to how to do this.
Speaker 2: And you see this as well. You know with these
high dollar deals.
Speaker 1: There was a fifty million dollar deal, a twenty five
million dollar deal with the Roth Charles and Epstein. He's
of course put in control of Leslie Wexner's fortune for
some reason.
Speaker 2: He's a money.
Speaker 3: Manager because les was just such a victim of Epstein.
Speaker 2: That's why exactly he was a victim.
Speaker 1: And as we saw in that testimony a couple of
days ago, he says, well, he worked for the Rothchilds exactly,
which is what we've said, you know, for so long.
And that's also important because Robert Maxwell was also uh
supported and given money by the Rothchilds and kind of
put into that position as well. So again, the same networks,
the same circles, the same dynasties all pop up, both
Rockefeller and Rothschild's, they're all they're all very high tier
and very important in this organized crime syndicate. And notice
that it shows also that intelligence stuff isn't James Bond,
it's not.
Speaker 2: It's very it's very little of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: It's bankers, and it's bankers ripping everybody off, and it's
and touching butts, that's and doing worse. It's it's not like,
you know, it's not what you see in Ian Fleming stories.
It's it's just it's like gross confidential informant police stuff,
but done by bankers. So it's it's not even it's
not even sexy and fun like movies.
Speaker 2: It's just gross.
Speaker 3: On the insider information. Some stuff came out about bitcoin
in the files, which I wanted to talk to you
about again. They obviously knew this was going to be massive.
We saw that Epstein was trying to create you know,
sharia coin over there in the Middle East. Definitely moving
towards digital currency. It's undeniable. The world is moving in
this direction. What what did you dig up about that
and what are your feelings around that?
Speaker 1: Well, the first thing that was odd about that was
there was a fake email that you could very easily
see was fake where Epstein is supposedly talking to Gislaine
saying that he's a Setoshi, which is preposterous because he
I mean, if you know, for example, philosophy, and you
hear Epstein talking in the Bandon interview about what he
thinks he's sort of a genius in all of these
different domains. It's a very rudimentary understanding of philosophy. And
other people who know technology very well were telling me
that when Epstein starts to talk about AI and these
you know, models.
Speaker 2: That he really had neural networks.
Speaker 1: He really had a kind of a sued level of
understanding that he was a pseudo philosopher, a pseudo tech guy.
Speaker 2: But he did throw a lot of money everywhere.
Speaker 1: And that's important to understand because as we saw again
with the Rothschild's element, whether it's genetics cloning, his interest
in you know, pandemics and pandemic exercises with Bill Gates
and those emails, or whether it's even to the point
of you know, getting things put into Call of Duty
black ops games about exchanging virtual currencies within games. You
have to keep in mind he's he's always on the
lookout for advanced intelligence for the next trend, So that
would include anything in everything. I mean, he had deals
involving tens of millions of dollars. Would we assume then that, well,
Epstein uses the dollar, so I guess the dollar is bad.
I mean, it's just kind of silly. You said you
made the same point with stocks, right, Well, they're they're
they're buying and trading stocks. It's not inherently wrong to
buying trade stocks. So there was some money put into
the original Bitcoin foundation to sort of support some of
the coders. But people need to understand that bitcoin isn't
a centralized service where you have some hidden you know,
code somewhere on somebody's secret.
Speaker 2: You know in Sacia server. It's a public protocol like.
Speaker 1: Email, so anyone can look at the code and anyone
can see the public blockchain. So bitcoin is not perfectly anonymous.
It's pseudonymous, meaning that people don't know who has what wallet,
but the entire ledger is public and the code is
also public. Now, in order to change the code of Bitcoin,
what has to happen is you have to get the
majority of the nodes and the people that run the
nodes to run a new version of Bitcoin, a new
version of the code. And that's very difficult to do
because it would require eventual consensus because it's a decentralized network.
Speaker 2: So people don't know that about bitcoin, and.
Speaker 1: That's part of its strength is that it's decentralized and
it's not centralized. So they think that you can somehow
program some backdoor into it and like some Israeli code
or in twenty eleven was secretly putting a code into it.
Doesn't work that way, that's not And it's the same
with email, right, I mean, the entire Internet, the entire
apparatus of email comes out of ARPA, net and DARPA.
So are you not going to use email because it
has a connection originally to DARPA. It's kind of silly, right,
So it's also in logic, it's a fallacy.
Speaker 2: The origin of something doesn't necessarily mean that.
Speaker 1: It's false or bad, because you can delineate between the
origin of a thing and its actual eventual acceptance or use.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I liken it to the stock market. You know,
it's run by the same bankers that are doing all
this stuff that we see in the files, you know,
or responsible for the shadow government around the world. But
if people are making money from the stock market, I
applaud them because the more money you can make, the
more you can be independent from the system. So go
for it, you.
Speaker 5: Know, if you know how to play their world, do
it well.
Speaker 1: But also I don't think if you look into the
origin of bitcoin, I mean it comes out of Austrian
economics and the entire apparatus of the intelligence world that
we have today, at least with British intelligence. All of
its original founders and members back in the early nineteen
hundreds were Fabian socialists, and most of them had.
Speaker 2: A Keynesian ideology.
Speaker 1: You know, there was John Maynor Kains's view of economics,
which is kind of like life socialism or Fabian socialis.
Speaker 2: In fact, the Fabian Socialists.
Speaker 1: Believed that John Minner Kains was the greatest economist of
their whole ideology. So think about the earliest members and
heads of the OSS and the CAA. They were all
headed up by open Fabian socialists as well. So you're
not going to have people from that apparatus creating the
opposite of that system, which is what bitcoin is. Because
it's a fixed supply, it's fungible, it's decentralized, it's not inflatable,
et cetera. That's the opposite of the entire ethos of
Keynesian economics. And so if you read, for example, Seiphodine
Almos's book Bitcoin Standard, I recommend it's a really good book.
Speaker 2: And I don't agree with.
Speaker 1: Everything from Austrian economics. I don't have a problem criticizing
elements of that. But when you contrast that with the
Fiat model of how the governments and the private central
banks that run the governments actually rip everyone off, it
makes perfect sense why Jeffrey Epstein would.
Speaker 2: Want to get in on bitcoin.
Speaker 1: Try to turn it into a different thing, try to
code it differently, try to steer it it makes perfect
sense that it would be a vector of attack. And
I actually believe that when the flurry of stories came
out the first couple of days about Epstein and bitcoin,
I see that as just another attack. And in fact
I bought a lot more Bitcoin in the last week
precisely because it's at a discount.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're on the dip, so it's not going anywhere
from what I can see. So I certainly understand that
logic on the flurry of information. I want to touch
on that with you. I know about this term flooding,
which is where we are given. You know, you look
at the file release, the drip drip that we've had
in the past, it gives people, you know, a lot
more to zone in on. Now we have over three
million files, certainly not not anywhere near what they claim.
Speaker 5: Has been released.
Speaker 3: In fact, the estimates that this is only two percent
of the information they have on this operation. But dropping
three million files odd onto the public and saying here
you go, you look at it, you deal with it,
when really this is you know, up to the government.
If it wasn't an illusion of government, they would be
the ones investigating this. Nonetheless, they drop this on the public,
and then people are digging through it's going to take months,
if not years, to keep digging through these files. Then
that gives people fatigue and they no longer want to
hear about it, because you can't just be thinking about
a pedophile every day of your life, right, So this
is one of the tactics, in my opinion, Jay, that
was actually deployed here.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, dragging.
Speaker 3: The public along, waiting for this release, waiting for this release,
and no doubt they were forced to do it.
Speaker 5: But you know, now this.
Speaker 3: Just dump and Okay, we're moving on. I see fatigue
in the public. They don't want to keep talking about this.
This is obviously an intelligence tactic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that we will necessarily get
anything out of this. We've seen prime ministers and people
stepping down and CEOs stepping down.
Speaker 2: Well that's not exactly justice.
Speaker 1: I mean, if people need to be actually be brought
to just not just go from one cushy job to
some other cushy job. But it does at least show
that they wouldn't be stepping down if this was all
you know, are nothing burger. So obviously there's something here
and it's legitimate, which refutes a lot of the people
that are out there kind of shilling the idea for
the establishment. This is all crazy. It's still it's made up.
They're still trying that line, which is kind of absurd.
But you know, even Trump tried to say, we just
time to move on, we need to move on. Well,
I don't think a lot of people in our sphere
of things are going to move on because now we
kind of have this mass awakening. And maybe you're right
that a lot of the population, have the population that's
completely just retarded, who triples down, quadruples down, that there's
nothing going on and this is all made up and
they're not going to care or believe it.
Speaker 2: But you know, all the.
Speaker 1: Intelligent people, I think the people who have some discernment
have figured this out and they're not going to let
it go.
Speaker 2: I'm certainly not going to.
Speaker 1: Let it go because it's the biggest story of our lifetime,
precisely because it's such a confirmation of all the stuff
that I've talked about since you know, I got into
quote conspiracy theories in nineteen ninety eight, I read my
first book criticizing the UN and socialism, and then kind
of got deeper and deeper into that after nine to eleven,
started studying false flags and then studying this stuff kind
of at an academic level, and then getting deep into
history with banking and all that kind of stuff and
Tragy and hope this really confirms all of those those
talks and lectures and things that we received so much
flak for for discussing the last for me at least,
you know, twenty six years. And I'm not going to
let that go because it's this is all vindication of
everything I talked about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And I just I've made this point recently
with Mike Adams. I said, you know, these are things
that we've we as independent media and researchers, have been
talking about for years that we've been debanked for that
we've been blocked off social media, been shadowband for you know,
apart from the justice that needs to come for the victims,
apart from the justice that needs to be served on the.
Speaker 5: Pedophiles, there's also justice for people like us.
Speaker 3: We've been financially impacted and impacted in our reach and
our ability to tell people the truth for telling the
truth for years.
Speaker 5: There needs to be justice there too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point.
Speaker 1: It's not just you know, and that's because obviously dissenting
voices were on the trail we did. No, we may
not have got everything right, but that's not the point.
The point is that we were on to the real
culprits of this big picture, this big conspiracy, which is
more than just our lifetime. I mean this goes back
to if you remember what the JFK files. I did
a lot of videos and analysis of some of those,
and we had similar types of connections there with CIA
organized crime and Israeli intelligence having a vested in interest
in getting.
Speaker 2: Rid of JFK.
Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean that I think JFK is some
sort of like super Saint or something like that. The
point is just that there's a shadow government, a supra international,
shadow elite government that operates somewhat in the open but
also somewhat privately, and they utilize these steering committees, these
things like Trilateral that Epstein was the chairman of. They've
done this model of governance for over one hundred years now.
Speaker 2: This is what Tragy and Hope is about.
Speaker 1: The steering committees all based on the royal in supernational
affairs model.
Speaker 2: That's what the Council Foreign Relations is, and that's above
the public officials.
Speaker 1: This is precisely why things never change, is because people
are duped into the dog and pony show of thinking
that the politicians are there for their best interest and
if you can just vote out the rascals the next
two or four years, then we'll get another chance at it.
Those politicians are owned by the people that we're talking about.
The people that we're talking about are the people that make,
you know, billions of dollars and have the ability to
sectually compromise and.
Speaker 2: Assassinate people who don't go along with it. And so
that's why this is such a big deal. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: The I've said, you know, my summary of the file
release is that it has completely shattered the illusion of
government and the illusion of politics.
Speaker 6: If you are someone who thinks clearly, you can see that,
you can see that everything that we're presented with, you know,
whether they're going to try and sabotage Trump or try
and lift him up here, or cover this article, or
how are we going to get the media to you know,
present you in a better light and not worry about
the pedophilia stuff and you know, you just see the
way that these cults are really operate above the level
that the people are fed. And you even have that
email exchange, a cartmemer who it's with you might remember
where they're essentially saying, you know, we're keeping keeping the
black community distracted with basketball. You know, as long as
they have their bread and circus, they will never rise up.
Speaker 5: That is what they're talking about in these emails.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of the emails that confirm.
Speaker 1: Even going back to the release of Hillary's emails, the
Wiki leagues, the Podesta stuff, you know, you had similar
statements there that segments of society can be controlled and
manipulated and debased and sort of brutalized through not just
bread and circuses, but also you know, degenerate entertainment Hollywood.
Speaker 2: That's why I've spent quite a bit of time.
Speaker 1: Over the years writing essary Hollywood one, two and three,
which is over a thousand pages on how Hollywood is
really just mind control and really just another arm of
the establishment. Doesn't mean that everybody or all the directors
or writers. There's a lot of people who were sincere,
and I think you can say the same thing with government,
A lot of people go in thinking I'm going to
try to work for the best for my constituents, I'm
going to try to change things, but they don't have
a real sense of how the world is actually run
by banker spies. You know, that's what really goes on.
And that's what I came to conclude from stuttying all
this stuff.
Speaker 2: So I think that the way.
Speaker 1: To change things is not through the fake routes that
people are given where you're sort of obsessed with what's
happening in DC, or you're obsessed with the Vatican and
it's you know, weekly gay drama, whatever's going on there. Now,
keep in mind too, Epstein spent time at the Vatican.
Epstein was very close to John Paul the second That
all came out in the emails as well, and I
think one of the most amazing emails to me was
the lengthy discussion explaining to banker Larry Summers how the
Vatican Bank works. So Epstein had an inner, deep understanding
of the internerings of the Vatican Bank as one of
the world's most secretive banks, much like the Bank for
National Settlements, and it's perfect for secret banking, shadow banking,
money laundering and black ops, and that's exactly what Operation
Gladio was all about, intertwining the oss Cia and the
Vatican Bank. So that's also another vindication of stuff that
I talked about which has enraged so many people over
the last ten years.
Speaker 2: When you can all go.
Speaker 1: Look up and see if there's a connection between the
P two Lodge, Operation Gladio, you know Lecchio Gelli and
Michel Sindona of organized crime fame in Italy, all of
that's true, all of it's real. The collapse of Banco
Dembrosio stealing people's pensions, well, guess what, that's exact same
thing that happened in the bank or bailout. So it's
the same model of chaos and stealing and grabbing the
resources when there's when there's planned and known chaos and
gaming those markets ahead of time.
Speaker 2: All of that is in these emails.
Speaker 1: So we have to understand we're run by a shadow
criminal syndicate, much like Specter in the James Bond novels
and films, rather than the you know, crooked politicians that
were fighting over every day or whatever. That's all a
dog and pony show. I'm not saying that the politicians
themselves and don't even necessarily. Maybe they have good motives,
maybe they really do want to change things, but they
then confront a behemoth much bigger and older and wealthier
than them, kind of like Tom Cruise and Eyes White
Shut when he thinks he's, you know, the elite doctor
in New York and then he meets these billionaires that
are doing sex ritual stuff and murdering people. So, you know, again,
Eyes White Shut, I think comes to the fore again
as another film that really showed, as Kuber was telling us,
how the world really works.
Speaker 2: That's all been vindicated.
Speaker 3: It's really astounding to look at, you know, the the
effort that was going to try and keep this all
onto wraps.
Speaker 4: They didn't want these files.
Speaker 3: I keep hearing people say, oh, but you know, none
of the presidents released them, but this one did. And
it's like, where have you been? Where the fight to
not get these out was going on?
Speaker 4: Where have you been?
Speaker 3: When Marjorie Taylor Green, who was the biggest supporter of
President Trump, is called a traitor for wanting the files out,
I mean, come on, the woman's left her role because
of the unbelievable pressure and attacks that she was under
for supporting the release of these files, and then you
see someone like Massi and Rokana, you know, coming under
an incredible attack for pushing for this. So I'm not
really you know, And of course they only released part
of it.
Speaker 4: There's a lot that I think we won't see personally.
Speaker 3: But the point is the thrashing and the gnashing of
teeth to not let the public see even what we
have seen shows you how desperate they are to keep
this illusion going. You mentioned something about manipulation and even
through the Podesta emails and now the Epstein emails and
you know, keeping the public placated essentially with distractions and
things of this nature. But we also have this interesting
article that just came out from the Daily Mail yesterday.
Declassified CIA files revealed chilling blueprint to manipulate Americans' minds.
Speaker 4: Through covert drugging with vaccines.
Speaker 3: Now these are not new CIA declassified files, but they've resurfaced,
and we're talking about a program even preceding mk Ultral,
going all the way back to the nineteen fifties, where
they were looking at ways on how to control the populations,
and we're talking through aerosol methods, through vaccines, through food,
through water, through everything. And I know that this is
something you've been talking about for a while. Ja so
took us through your research into this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I first encountered, I think this notion back when
I read many, many years ago in the two thousands
berchand Russell's book Impact of Science on Society. And that's
the book where he famously says, through diet injections and injunctions,
a future international technocracy will be able to manipulate, uh,
you know, dumbed down and control populations.
Speaker 2: And so that could mean many things.
Speaker 1: In the context he seems to be talking about depopulation, sterilization,
that kind of stuff. And then I was hipped to
a couple of books by the father of modern inoculations,
Jonas Salk, and I had no idea how much of
a rabid dysgenics proponent Jonahsoks was. Jonahsok was, and I'm
not saying that because to deflect from eugenics. He's actually
a proponent of dysgenics, meaning the weaponization of genetics to
actually massively depopulate the world. And so he wrote a
book many great maybe, I want to say, in the
sixties or seventies. I did a talk on this book
about eleven years ago, maybe a decade ago, a Survival
of the Wisest, and I was shocked at how just
candid he was and blatant he was in the book
about how we're going to pioneer the use of mass
and oculations, to experiments on pregnant women, to experiment on
the population in general. We're going to basically require these
types of medical experiments on every infant born under the
guise of health, and we will eventually figure out a
way to ensure that only the best people, the wisest people,
go into the future, and most of the population will
be gotten rid of. Now I'm not saying that he
was successful in doing that in his time. He's talking
about where the priest class, and he actually says the
scientific priest class is who will control society in this technocracy.
So he's very candid, very open. One of the middle
chapters explicitly just says, you want experiment, do it on
pregnant women under.
Speaker 2: The cover of vaccines.
Speaker 1: And he's the father of supposed vaccinations, saving lives, all
that kind of.
Speaker 2: Stuff, right, polio and all that.
Speaker 1: So here's the father of modern inoculations telling you that.
Speaker 2: I mean, the book is called The Survival of the Wisest.
Speaker 1: It's telling you that everybody needs to die except for
the priest class.
Speaker 3: Speaking of the priest class, I see a lot of
Elon Musk at the moment, you know, saying, oh, we
we should hold those accountable.
Speaker 4: Who did something wrong, even though he's in the files.
Speaker 3: But the whole idea is that just because you're in
the files, you didn't necessarily commit wrongdoing.
Speaker 4: I agree with that.
Speaker 3: It certainly doesn't mean that you, as in you committed
a crime, but it is wrongdoing associating with a pedophile
and choosing to associate with him, and like Howard Latnik,
choosing to take your children to a pedophile island. This
is a story that would normally attract the attention of CPS.
But apparently if Howard Lutnik does it, it's fine. You know,
there are actually that is wrongdoing and from a moral
active and we do see, you know a lot of
these figures who are in prominent positions now. Even though
no crimes are visible in those emails, and maybe no
crimes actually occurred, there was definitely a relationship with Epstein.
Speaker 4: Peter Tiel being one of those. But you know, I.
Speaker 3: See this, this the similarities between some of the things
that Musk is talking about, for example, and Epstein was
talking about, you know, the moon, transhumanism, all of this
sort of stuff is being pushed by prominent figures right
now who had links to Epstein crimes or not had
links to him.
Speaker 4: What do you think is this?
Speaker 3: Is this a way to sort of cover their tracks,
make it seem like what we didn't actually commit crimes
is nothing wrong with us, But you were still associating
with someone who's part of this grand conspiracy and you
happen to be pushing the same things he was.
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on this, Jay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, again, I think we do have to be
careful to not jump the gun. And I've seen a
lot of people on me the gun, for example, on
the basis of some of what I think were fake
or planted stories in the emails. For example, the first day,
everyone was sort of going crazy about the so called
FBI tip that some guy had been taken to the
FBI by Michael Moore. Red flag right there, because that
is a complete lunatic and he was taking this guy
claims he was on a yacht and you know, people
were eating infants and George Bush Sr.
Speaker 2: Was humping him in the booty hole.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was just it sounds like total made
up nonsense, and particularly because things in the story didn't
even make sense. He said he was ritually cut on
his feet, but it was cut with a simpster. That
doesn't leave any scars. That's obviously a schizo crazy person.
And then and I even put it out a tweet
kind of saying, you kind of have to judge these
in a sort of a tier of relevance or importance, right,
and even things like confidential informant information may or may
not be true.
Speaker 3: For example, any of these sorry I'll just pause you.
Any of these confidential informants could be spies themselves. They
could have uterior motives. So it's very hard to discern
what is fact and fiction.
Speaker 4: But do go on.
Speaker 1: Well, and I'm just saying that because many people were
not discerning which document we're talking about. They're just jumping
on it like this is in the Epstein file, so
it and it's you have to look and see what
it is. There was, for example, there was a confidential
informant reporting on being the person involved in the tech
sector who was an informant to the FBI, and they
claimed that they had done a bunch of hacking, and
that they worked various capacities with tech companies, and that
they were concerned about going to certain countries, but that
they believed and they had.
Speaker 2: Some hacking connection to Epstein.
Speaker 1: That they should not go to Russia and that they
but they had a Vatican passport. Now that's all that
this this confidential source claimed, and then countless gigantic Roman
Catholic profiles, for example, we're using this as as supposed
proof that Pope Francis like a hidding out head hacked
and taken down Epstein. There was nothing in the report
about anything like that. In fact, quite the opposite is
it suggested that this person had a who was connected
Epsteine and also had a Vatican passport. So that's undermining
the legitimacy value. In fact, we saw that Epstein was
also arranging flights and meetings were Pope Francis, so quite
good the contrary, and again you have to be discerning
in terms of what you're looking at. I think that
the emails are some of the most damaging and the
financial transaction data that we've seen, particularly high high amount,
high dollar amount deals with the ross. Those those are
one of the most I think taling and then emails
of the most telling, even though they were redacted. But
all of that is to say, uh, I'm not surprised that,
you know, the Silicon Valley oldierarchy, uh at all the
capacities was targeted and and and couldacit you know, cooperated
at very very varying degrees, uh with this, because if
you heard the phone call that came out between Hood
and Rock and Apstein about for example, Volenteer and how
they wanted to bring uh you know, Peter Stilling into
the spider's web sort of going to drop him.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I think that's very talent, because that's that's how this
really works.
Speaker 2: Did you hear that phone call?
Speaker 5: I did, Yes, Yeah, that one.
Speaker 1: Was just a such a key window into how this
operation was working.
Speaker 2: CEOs him well.
Speaker 3: I also at he didn't know how to sell talent here,
and you know, credit is in some sort of genius
to whom and you couldn't even spell.
Speaker 2: In front of.
Speaker 3: Right and insane all that, I mean, I don't know
what would happened and what went down without acting until
there's certainly a long relationship communication between and the two.
We now see parlaneer rising to prettretty much the global.
Speaker 4: Snail and state level.
Speaker 3: Every single country is seemingly implementing their technology and integrating
and indubating earment and citystems.
Speaker 4: There wasn't a hungary recently that I don't know, we
couldn't do this, We need it will come up with
our country.
Speaker 3: But you know, they have grown to a really scarily level.
Speaker 4: J And I'm want to ask.
Speaker 3: You in relation to pallengeering and their capabilities versus what
you started with technocracy.
Speaker 4: You know, how close are we to that.
Speaker 1: Reality to say exactly how I would dance or whatever
to do now? Because uh, you know, at least as
far as I'm aware, what I don't know about it
as well.
Speaker 2: Peters will put it in his own books.
Speaker 1: So if you look at his book, you were really one,
And there's a chapter on the development of the technology
for predicted the crime analysis and finding terrorists and figuring
out what terrorists plans to do based on who's where
and who's buying what, and who's talking to who, and
so they kind of a sure trying to get you know,
there's not only even just a chance minority or style
you know that territtack because you know Ben London is
here and he's buying C four, he's you know, smoking
hookah at the bar.
Speaker 2: So I mean that's kind.
Speaker 1: Of the way that where we're told of that worse
back when ten years ago whenever peters Hill rose zero
over to one.
Speaker 2: So that's how far the dancy on that is.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but there they were putting fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2: I put this in my first or first.
Speaker 1: Of the we're putting it in to the UK, the
type of technology back then to prepredict crimes. So yeah,
I think that that and really this all comes out
of the host and nine love and threats of all
terrorism and what way they call that a GAT in
total Information awareness and John Point exert and Darvo to
developing you know basically just real time total global surveillances
with simulated world citizens where you try to try to
raise everything through the supercomputers and stuff. Where we're so
going to imagine that's kind of what they intended to
do or what they're trying to get it is to do.
Speaker 2: Is if it's that that capability yet.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but usually the technology is you know,
ten point years had or what the public has, so
it seems reasonable that they might have the technology able
to understand that people. I think that at these levels,
of course they don't. They're not concerned with your privacy
or your sort of whole rights.
Speaker 5: They don't rise absolutely.
Speaker 3: And we went did the story yesterday which I think
really didn't get anywhere enough as it shouldn't have. It
was about the reason transgender to shooter in Canada, the
the you know, tragedy of course, but Overena I was
saying that there and I flagged that this person could
would be someone who can mean it's a crime.
Speaker 4: And then at twelve.
Speaker 3: SEBER staff members from over I wanted to reward it
to the police.
Speaker 4: Ultimately the leadership made the decision not to at.
Speaker 3: The time and our point about this story was, well,
is it tragedy being exploited for the purpose of conditioning
the masses for breading because this is part of the situation,
is like we.
Speaker 4: Can prevent a mask shooting, who we wouldn't want you
to prevent it in the mass shooting.
Speaker 3: But then you have to ask if you tell the
question and to go back to the dealing classified files
were just discussed a few moments ago. Apart from my
mirrorad are eating out of files out MKA over and
you know all this sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: That we know.
Speaker 3: How many of these transgenerator shoes are actually being mind
controlled to do this in order to justify than pre
crime as surveillance software. And I guess you know, Jay,
we had the we had the hevid shots come out.
No doubt there were pavioral changes out of there are
myriad out of heroes.
Speaker 4: I don't know about that.
Speaker 7: You know what the sort of risks that we are
now with them weaponizing you know, this sort of really
advanced mind control that goes beyond putting someone in the
room and making them hypnotize, and they we're talking about literpool,
you know, in the food, in the water, in the.
Speaker 3: Vac scenes, medications, in everything. How much are a risk
out of these people using any human being.
Speaker 5: To do whatever they want.
Speaker 1: The goal would be to create a giant low high
mind that you could get anybody within the high mind
to do anything that you want.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he can do that, but you know.
Speaker 1: We were at a lot of we were at sixty
to seventy globally attacks over the last ten years. In
the last year through them something that I focus on
channel amongst other things.
Speaker 2: And then I don't know that, And then I'm not
trying to brag. I don't know anyone else has actually
done that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at that scale last year and through dozens and
dozens of the attack I wonder which is precis of
the future. But at Lee, the Kitschinger of France, and
I think he also was mentioned in the files that
came up a few times. So this is an important
person in the global we're going to try and structure
and he said back in two thousand and six in
his book Refister the Future, We're going to create a
global interlinked brain. It will be the gollumn of Jewish
cabalistic mythology, and we will be able to steer and
turn that entity where we wanted to go. So I
think that people that dissent from this will be considered
you know, revolutionaries or counter revolutionaries. They will be considered
terrorists that be considered you know, bioterror threats for not
linking into the High mind.
Speaker 2: That's how they're going to try to portray it.
Speaker 1: But your question, I was about pre crime and all
that and the transhumanists and the again, and the reason
I brought up Atille is that he has that famous
section where he says that the trans humanists are the
vanguard of the new world order. And he's very open
and candidate about how transhumanism and transgenderism, because those things
go together, are necessary psychological operations to steer the public
into the future. And it's not accidental that they create
trans terrorists. I don't think they need to on an
individual level mind control these people, like you said, in
some sort of a facility. They've just released this into
the public. So now the public is under mass mind
control mass you know, he called it.
Speaker 2: Malone called it mass formations like host this is just
MK ultra on a mass scale. And you're right. It's
not just the imprinting of visual imagery.
Speaker 1: It's the food, it's the vaccinations, it's the media, the
toxic media.
Speaker 2: It's the education system brainwashing people.
Speaker 1: And it's also an attack on the actual chemistry of
the body and its biology.
Speaker 2: And its gender.
Speaker 1: All of that is part of this overall agenda. And yeah,
they absolutely want a potential everybody to be a potential
sleeper cell. Type of I mean, there was this movie
with Chris Krowt that just came out where he's on.
Speaker 2: Trial by the aiye and the AI is you.
Speaker 1: Know, involved in sort of predictive actuary, you know, Minority
Report style crime. But to the movies credited, actually they
kind of give the impression that, well, this is only
going to be as good as the people that code
the AIS not going to be infallible, and in the film.
Speaker 2: The AI isn't actually infallible.
Speaker 5: So well, the people that are coding the AI scare
the crap out of me. So I don't mean that
like I'm in fear of them.
Speaker 3: I mean you you look at someone like Alex carp
who says that his biggest fear is Christians and that
you know, he wants.
Speaker 5: To drone strike his enemies and spray them with fentanyl.
And now we have these you.
Speaker 3: Know, systems, palanteer systems, someone like that at the at
the head of this also we're told he's the frontman,
you know, integrating into every single system, every single government system.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: They they are now talking about I just saw that
they're talking about an executive order to make sure that
banks can sort of track whether someone is an illegal
immigrant or not. And that's, you know, sure, a really
great way of getting illegals out of the country. Guess
what else it is. It's the government then being in
your bank account, you know. And this is where this
is all heading. It's all I summarized it like.
Speaker 5: This, Jay, I don't know what I said word for word,
but I just said, let me summarize the Epstein files
for everyone.
Speaker 3: You have an agenda of people that operate far beyond
the governments and the politicians who are leading the world
to the Antichrist agenda, which is a world but you
can't buy or sell unless you get the mark, and
there will be consequences for your behavior.
Speaker 5: And it is an economic system.
Speaker 3: The entire control system that's described to us in the
Bible is an economic system of control, and we are
clearly being steered towards that. And what these files exposed
to us was that the politicians that serve this agenda
are simply puppets to get us to that point. So
my final question for you, Jay, is what is it
that you believe the public needs to be do No
doubt one of the solutions here is the true Church,
because I don't think I think anything's going to change
your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely have.
Speaker 1: People should look into Orthodox Christianity for sure and finding
a good, solid Orthodox church. But also, I mean on
a personal level beyond that, in terms of surviving in
this world, I would stay out of these big cities.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna get worse and worse. I would.
You know, if you want to be involved in politics,
that's fine.
Speaker 1: Is probably more effective at the local level than it
is anything international or national. It takes hundreds of millions,
billions of dollars to really affect anything in terms of
national politics. So that's really a rich man's game.
Speaker 2: But you know, I would.
Speaker 1: I would have, you know, self defense, I would have guns,
I would have that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: I would have. I do believe in bitcoin, And again
I see this as an attack on bitcoin, not as
an exposure of bitcoin.
Speaker 1: Really the attack here is to associate it with Jeffrey Epstein,
when those associations were really sort of tenuous, they were
very early on, and they didn't really really have anything
to do with the entire ethos a bitcoin. In fact,
the track that Epstein took was to focus more and more.
It seems that he was interested in bitcoin, and the
more he learned about cryptos early on was he was
interested in something like a CBDC, and bitcoin is the
opposite of a central bank digital currency. For one, it's
the opposite first and foremost in terms of whether it's
hard money or whether it's inflatable. CBDCs are infinitely inflatable,
and they will be tracked tracing controlled by the central
state and inflated to infinity that basically be worthless depending
upon what the government needs at that time. Unfortunately, the
Clarity Act when it came to crypto and whatnot, seems
to be ultimately not so much about bitcoin and a
strategic reserve, but about stable coins and then stable coins
perhaps being a backdoor version of a CBDC. So I
think that's the concern here, and all of that, by
the way, is not bitcoin, that is all something else.
Crypto is usually different. I mean, I would say nine
point nine percent of crypto projects are tokens and applications
and that kind of stuff, and that's not what bitcoin is.
Bitcoin is intended to be a monetary protocol, so it's
very different from those things. So that's why I think
it's good to have that if people want to be
involved in goal they can. I mean, I'm sure it
will have some utility as things get worse, but I
would I would plan on the legacy things beginning to
really break down even further, and thus the more independent
one can be, the better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I absolutely agree.
Speaker 3: You know, know where your food comes from, know where
your water comes from, so be as self sufficient as
you possibly can. And if you have the ability to
get out of the big cities for sure, and just
you know, my goal for human manadies to get to
a point where they don't need the government, and that
will that will certainly help everyone out. I want to
bring up your ex account at j Underscore D double
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Jay's Analysis dot Com. If you head there and go
to the bookshop, you can access all of J's books.
You've got Esoteric Hollywood one two three, You've got Hollywood
Mind Control, Genesis Explained Lectures. Jay does a lot as
well on the theology front. Can tune into his debates
his YouTube. Let everyone else know what else you want
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can also find a good bit of comedy too,
all right. For the Sam Hide Show, we've just pretty
much completed the first season of that. This last year
was pretty epic. We had Dear Elon, Dear vivek Ral. Yeah,
that Dear Elon got I think somewhere around ten twenty
million views across all the platforms. So yeah, we're having
a lot of success with that. So shout out to
Sam Hi and all the writers over there, like Ryan
and Pat and Brendan. But yeah, so we're going to
be doing more of that. I will be doing a
whole bunch of slew of podcasts in the next couple
of months. So I'm going to be in Austin, I'll
be in Dallas, I'll be in Vegas, I'll be in
La doing tons and tons of podcasts and some new debates.
So look for that coming up in the next couple
of months. And also in the shop, Jamie's books, my
wife's books are in there too.
Speaker 5: So thank you so much, Maria, thank you Jay.
Speaker 3: We really appreciate your time and all your work over
the years. You bring this, thank you, you bring this
this level headedness to this entire situation that is missing
in a lot of the people that analyze these files,
so we appreciate that. And yeah, I hope everyone gives
you a follow Thank you, we'll talk to you.
Speaker 2: Appreciate