Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right podcast. Today,
we're very excited to talk to doctor Shila Nasarien. She
is a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon, founder of Nazarian Skin
and you might recognize her if you watch the Netflix
series Skin Decision Before and After. She has also appeared
on a ton of other shows and outlets, including some
of our favorites like Prager You and Newsmax. And if
you're not familiar with her, she is a very outspoken
conservative activist, a Jewish Iranian American strong defender of Israel,
which of.
Speaker 2: Course we love. Yet and.
Speaker 1: Recently, you actually have talked about a concept that we
have mentioned from time to time on our show, to
Kia talk about how that relates to what we're seeing
happening right now in Iran.
Speaker 3: It's not even just right now, you guys, I mean
the these Islamists will do whatever it takes to achieve
the end goal, which is a caliphate, a worldwide caliphate. So,
just to give your audience a little bit of a
background on me, I was actually born in New York
on vacation and we went back to Iran, and that
was nineteen seventy nine and the revolution started months later.
Speaker 2: It's a very interesting concept.
Speaker 3: That I think it's new to people, but they actually
wouldn't let us leave. So a lot of times, like
with Maduro for example, millions of people left, you know,
and or were exiled in Iran. It was such a
brain and money drain that they actually wouldn't let you leave.
So the Iran Iraq War started a year later after
I was born, so it was nineteen eighty to nineteen
eighty five. There was bombs flying, I remember, just like
in Israel. The sirens go off and then you see
the lights coming through the sky, very similar, except we
don't have bomb shelters in Iran. So we would just
go to the window and my mom would say, let's
go watch the fireworks. Moms did land close by, one
landed a couple blocks away, and you know, it was
just like my parents could see, especially my mom, she
could see this wasn't a good place to raise her
two daughters for obvious reasons that we're hearing about now.
And my dad used to be the chief medical officer
for the Shaw's Hospital, and so you know, anyone related
in any shape, away or form to the Shaw whether
you're Muslim, Jewish, behy, whatever, you were killed or jailed.
So my dad was a pathologist and he had diagnosed
a parasite in one of his lab tech's eyes and
saved his eyesight. And the lab tech was part of
the resistance to the SHAW, and he basically came to
my dad one day and said, you saved my eyesight,
I'm going to save your life.
Speaker 2: You're on the list. You need to get off my gosh,
yeah wow.
Speaker 3: And so very shortly thereafter, my dad said he was
going on a medical conference to you know, Vienna, as
he did from time to time, and so they said, okay,
you can go, but you have to leave the passports
of your wife and your two daughters with us.
Speaker 2: So that's what we did.
Speaker 3: He went to Vienna, and a couple of weeks after that,
my mom took me and my sister to a bazaar
and we got in the back of a covered truck
kind of fetal positioned amongst ourselves and strangers. They put
burr lap sacks on top of us and corn on
top of that, and then in that position and I
remember there was like a rod, you know, or like
you're supposed to tie down the crop. It was like
going into my rib and I kept complaining to my
mom like she's like, be quiet, be quiet. So we
got close to the Pakistani border. We got out of
this situation and this truck went to a bathroom which
was basically a hole in the ground in a clay hut.
And I remember the hole was like so deep and
so wide. My mom had to hold me so I
could like pee on top of it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is like not without my daughter?
Speaker 3: Nice. Can I tell you the craziest thing I watched
Not Without My mom passed away when I was sixteen,
but I watched Not Without my daughter with her. And
do you remember that scene when she came out of
the desert. She was just covered in sand. My Mom's
exactly what we looked like when we came out.
Speaker 2: That's crazy too.
Speaker 3: After the whole bathroom thing where that's when my mom
finally told me we were going to America. And I was
really excited to meet Michael Jackson because we had so
we had like bootleg thriller videos that they would you
sell out the street anyway, So we got into a
rock and we were sitting on top of our luggage.
Speaker 2: We spent a night in the desert.
Speaker 3: And around two three in the morning, the border police sauce.
Now this is interesting. The border police that started shooting
at us were Iranian, not the Pakistani's preventing us from entering.
It was the Iranian border police trying to hold us
from leaving d You see, it's so different. And what
was really interesting too, is like a few years ago
I went to Dubai for the first time and we
went on one of these desert adventures. Have you ever been
on those where you're like going like this trucks, so,
you know, I remember my mom telling me we're going
to go on a roller coaster through the desert. And
when I got in these trucks and we're doing this,
it's really scary. Like one of the trucks it actually flip,
you know, like it like brought back that core memory
of us on the back of this pickup truck doing
this over the dunes, trying to get into Pakistan.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 3: So, if we did get into Pakistan, we were there
for three months waiting for visas to reunite with my
dad in Vienna finally, which we did, and then we
were in Vienna for another three months.
Speaker 2: Waiting to legally come to America. So and then you
went to La.
Speaker 3: We were in New York for like a month because
we have some family in New York and some family
in LA. And then it got to be too cold
and we were like, okay.
Speaker 4: Not this right.
Speaker 2: We went to La.
Speaker 3: We were living in a two bedroom apartment with my
cousin and her fan and her parents, and so it
was like eight people in the two bedroom apartment. My
dad would ride his bike to the public library so
it could study for his board exam, so we could
practice medicine in America. I mean, but you know, what come,
I didn't know any English, Like I had a mustache
and they wouldn't let me shave my legs. It was
like a tough transition, you know, but I'm so like
grateful to be here.
Speaker 2: And so you know, people here.
Speaker 3: In America, you know, either defending these dictators or defending socialism,
because you know, it was it was the Communist Party
of Iran, which was a college campus thing, joining hands
with the Islamists that overthrew the Shaw and brought in
this regime in Iran. And we would hear the same
things we're hearing here always flowery words, these words.
Speaker 2: That sound so good, like equity.
Speaker 3: Oh why is living in a castle while there's homeless
people on the streets.
Speaker 2: That's not equity?
Speaker 3: Or joy? What was the what was this the key
word for the Biden Harris campaign?
Speaker 4: Joy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, same word, you know, So it was it
was and then started on the college campuses, and so
you know these Arii teens during the college campus you
know Hamas pro Hamas situation that we just witnessed these
ari I tens or like five hundred, six hundred bucks each.
Speaker 2: Who's paying for that?
Speaker 3: Ye? It actually was just they're using the same formula
that worked in Iran to brainwash our college you know
kids and do the same thing that happened here.
Speaker 2: I mean it was.
Speaker 3: There's a picture that's really famous of two college girls
and they're holding up a picture of Hormani and they're like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they were probably some of the first to
go right after he got it.
Speaker 2: They were the first to be killed. Yeah, right, this
is the but this is actually do this intersectionality was
invented in Iran.
Speaker 4: I'm converted and it's not just but it's not just college. Listen,
the college students are probably the worst. But I don't
know are they because I look around at some of
the women who are our age, like these white liberal
women who are middle aged women.
Speaker 3: I mean like literally, I'm in Like there's a female
plastic surgeon who's a white liberal woman, and she's insane,
like literally insane, Like I think she's insane.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of them are insane.
Speaker 2: Facebook telling me what Iran is, Oh my god, my god,
she never.
Speaker 3: Even like lived there, what do you and telling me
what you know, uh, the regime is, and telling me
how I should feel.
Speaker 2: I mean, how insane are you? Like, she's insane? There's nothing. Wow,
it's either your possessed or you're insane, right.
Speaker 4: Your perspective is so unique, And I think that's what Like,
I think I look at these the college protesters, these
middle aged white women, these people who are out there,
and they are so hungry to accept all this Islamist crap,
and we're just looking We're looking at them, But what
are you doing? And I guess I look at you
and I think, Okay, you obviously have this perspective which
is different than a college you know, spoiled bratt college
kid on you know, one of these campuses, you know,
and I look at Mack who who's her parents are,
you know, first generation immigrants from Poland, and so she
just has a very it's this notion of being grateful
to be here. Yeah, I mean that's one of the
things that I.
Speaker 2: Try to actually knowing what real oppression is.
Speaker 3: Right, It's key, like you know, these little like I
went to Columbia University, right, like you know, it was
like the worst college campus when it comes to all
of this stuff, like so indoctrinated. I stop donating to them,
like fifteen years ago. Every time they send me something
to donate, I write, protect your Jewish you know, students,
and I send it back with a black So you know,
I went there and me here, I'm thinking, like I
have I come to this country no connections, Like yeah,
I made it, you guys, I made it, like toally
three teenagers and like my daughter applied to schools. I
didn't even let her apply to Columbia like legacy.
Speaker 4: It's just let me ask you.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious because we're so in the thick of
you know, this revolution happening in Iran, and now of
course there's you know a lot of people who are
just so so America first at this point that they
cannot understand that we are part of a global community
and everything that happens in the world does actually.
Speaker 2: Reach and impact us.
Speaker 1: What do you think the United States should do? Like,
what should our role be in this conflict?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's a tough one, right because
you know, you don't want to say, oh, send you know,
our own sons and boots on the ground. But our
technology is so amazing that I think there's other alternatives
and ways that we can help the Iranian people.
Speaker 2: One, like the easiest one armed them. Arm them.
Speaker 3: Can we drop some like guns somewhere, or like smuggle
some guns in and arm these protesters so they're not
just like lane ducks being shot at. You know, I've
seen numbers in the six hundreds. I've seen twelve thousand.
I've seen twenty thousand have been killed, right, and you
know they're just literally marching and they're going their snipers
on the roofs, just shooting into the crowd. I mean,
can we not arm these people and let them do it?
I mean, that's I think the easiest thing. Other way
cyber attacks, you know, cyber attacks on the regime. I
think the you know tariffs that President Trump put in
anybody who does business with Iran immediate twenty five percent tariff.
But it's not going to help the these young, amazing
people on the ground, and you know, being Iranian and
knowing the brain power of these people and the culture
and the warmth. When I see one person killed, it's
a whole world that's not just not like their lives.
You know, these lives aren't cheap, these people are. They dance,
they sing with their friends. They you know, in Iran,
if you go up to someone ladies and you're like,
oh my god, I love your eyeliner, she will literally
take it out of her bag.
Speaker 2: And just hand it to you.
Speaker 3: It's the warmth and this is the generosity of the culture.
So to see these young people who just want freedom,
who just want to just basic human rights, and you know,
the real has officially gone to like zero, like it's
worth nothing now.
Speaker 2: So imagine working your whole.
Speaker 3: Life and you have savings and one day you wake
up and it's just worth nothing. Yeah, it's economic, it's
human rights. It's old people, it's young people, it's women,
it's men, it's every economic class. It's every single province
in Iran has risen up because they're just like, you know,
what's the alternative. It's like, what's the alternative? Like I
can't work, it's worth nothing.
Speaker 4: Right, And then people in this country, women, you know,
in this country, have the audacity to say that we're oppressed.
You know, because I'm listening to you and I'm like,
I can't imagine.
Speaker 3: How is that Columbia, Like these girls are sitting there
with their like eight dollars Starbucks and they're like one
hundreds point dollars lou Lemons talk how they're so oppressed?
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: It's just it's madness. It's absolute madness. Speaking of madness,
there are people who used to be on our side
of the aisle, who are you know, saying like Candace
is saying, Oh, this isn't happening and this is all
just made up, you know, because I mean Bbe's trying
to get land and stuff like that. I mean there
are people She's one, there's other people on our side
of the used to be there.
Speaker 3: I don't even ban tell like I just interviewed Bannon
like months ago, and he was so great.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like so for me, there's like different reasons.
Speaker 3: I think people like you know that have kind of
left mainstream media and they don't have a paycheck anymore.
I think they're getting a paycheck from elsewhere, whether it's
just clicks or actual paychecks. But like, why would you
defend a regime that rapes a woman before it kills her?
Because if a virgin gets killed, they go to heaven,
and they don't even want her to go to heaven,
so they have to rape.
Speaker 2: Her first before they go to the head. I mean,
this is the regime that you are defending.
Speaker 3: Okay, So in the case of Tucker and maybe even
Bannon and these people, I think they're just you know,
getting their clicks. It pays to be anti Semitic. There's
fifteen million Jews, there's billions of anti Semites, and you're
going to get clicks, and so that's how they're going
to make their money. In the case of Candace Owens,
I literally think it's like either she has postpartum psychosis
or I think she's possessed. Like I really think, like
it's a Jezebel kind of situation. Don't follow the truth,
follow me, I'm the truth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's crazier and crazier. I mean, like the
most recent stuff that she's been talking about with like
time travel and.
Speaker 2: Like ancient Samaric.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy, and it's almost as if she's like
Tea just testing her sheep the following to see what
they do.
Speaker 2: How far did she go?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yes, it's unfortunately, like I do think, and I
don't know if if it's our food supply or the
kind of education, or hormones in the meat, like I
don't know what's happening, drugs, Like I don't know, but
I do feel like the population is getting dumbed down,
especially like doing business with people and interacting like it is.
It's it's very clear to me the level of critical
thinking curiosity has gone down. People just like don't want
to just go figure stuff out anymore. It's like, oh,
I don't know how to do that. Let me watch
a couple. I mean, information has never been more easily accessible.
There is no reason why you can't figure it out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the dummer there, dummer and lazier, dumber, lazier.
Speaker 2: No one scary to me too.
Speaker 3: And then imagine Ladies when AI comes in and takes
away those entry level jobs.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like, remember Wally when the people are
just like.
Speaker 3: Sitting in the thing and they're like the aunts have
gotten really short because they don't do anything with that.
So ye, like I feel like, honestly, that's where we're headed.
Like it's actually really scary. So, you know, them trying
to bring in socialism and dependence on the government requires
a dumbed down, for sure reliant population. I'm just saying, like,
thank God for the people in the middle of the country,
you know, working hard with their guns, like that's what
we need, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but at least fifty percent of that, but fifty
percent of us, about half of us are buying into
that bull crap.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of us.
Speaker 4: I mean, we've been doing this for seventeen years, and
I have never seen so many people that are so
complacent in the face of just flat out communism and
then in the Islamism.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's also like complacency or like
everyone just wants no discomfort, right, So if they say, oh,
I'm just gonna lose all my friends, I'm going to
get in fights with all these people online, and that's
just going to make me so uncomfortable, so I'm just
going to say nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I know, it's become such a rat like,
I mean, all of these protesters.
Speaker 2: Are getting paid.
Speaker 1: The worst among us are being rewarded constantly, and so
it's it's amazing to see the level to which Democrats, liberals, progressives,
whatever you want to call them are. They're so eager
to defend the indefensible, like they always want to put
their arms around the worst people. It just is mind
blowing to watch it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so true, But what do you think it's causing
that you tell me you're being doing this for seventeen years,
like I'm actually like, for me seeing you know, these
white liberal women defending the Islamic regime. I think it's
because they're funding Hamas, and so if they go against
the Islamic regime, it's like saying the last two years
of all their activism was worth nothing, right, because the
Islamic regime is Hamas is his bola these and so
you know, to defend this regime that is so violent
and so brutal, and you know how the highest they
hang they hung a thousand people last year.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like per capita, it's the highest.
Speaker 3: Amount of killings, and so to defend that, I just
feel like where it is, Where do you guys think
this cognitive dissonance is coming from?
Speaker 4: One. I think it's a or like you think you
nailed it when you said our education system. I think
it's just absolute shit at this point. Excuse my language,
but I just think it's awful. There's there's it's the
worst it's ever been, at least in my lifetime. And
so that's part of it. And then I think there's
a lot of things that you mentioned in when you
were just talking about all the different components that make
up our lives every single day. I think parenting has
gone by the wayside. I think family has gone by
the wayside. I think that there's just a lack of
people that value life and just the I remember when
it used to be that, like the family was such
a huge that was what was important in people's lives,
and nobody cares about that anymore. In fact, people poo
poo that you see it in our movies and the TV.
People they don't value that stuff anymore. I know that
that may not have a direct correlation to like critical thinking,
but I think just having values in our society. Everything
is broken down and everything.
Speaker 3: Which was really interesting is like people are making you
these these movies and like the media and everything, they're making.
Speaker 2: You question your values. Right, Like I just took.
Speaker 3: My kids to see what's the latest cartoon movie that
came out?
Speaker 2: It was like the snake. The snake was the hero.
Did you watch this now? Oh my god, I'll.
Speaker 4: Find out your kids.
Speaker 2: How old are your kids?
Speaker 3: You? Like I have I have an eighteen year old,
a seventeen year old, and a fourteen year old. But
we just it's like it was it was like part two.
It was oh god, I'm just trying to think what the.
Speaker 2: Name of it.
Speaker 3: Anyway, So like in all these movies, right, the you
know the snake biblically, right, is you know, the bad guy,
But in this movie, like if the snake starts out
the bad guy, but then you start to feel empathy
for the snake or like you know Kate Pop Demon Hunters,
it's like, oh, the demons.
Speaker 2: Aren't so bad. They're like, oh my god, like all
of these things.
Speaker 3: And I've been saying this to my kids and they're like, Mom,
You're like you're crazy, and I'm like no, I'm not.
They're just making everything that like biblically was taught to
us to be evil or sign of evil, is being
made into like well maybe it's not so bad.
Speaker 2: Oh, even maleficent.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, a great example.
Speaker 2: The true love is her love.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's a great example.
Speaker 4: Do you see this or like it's it's everywhere, it
is everywhere.
Speaker 1: And it's also you know, there's a there's the whole
social media factor now too, that it's so much easier
today to organize horrible people together and and and there's
so much of a reward for their horrible behavior now,
and so I think that ties into it too, the
fact that now you can get paid to go and
be destructive and protest law enforcement. I mean, everything has
gotten so crazy, and social media has made it that
much easier to just throw yourself into the into the
mix and get the attention and get the clicks yourself.
And you know, one of the good things about that
is these independent investigative journalists like Nick Shirley. But then
the flip side is that you've got all the monsters
who crave the attention for the worst reasons, right, So
it's a mixed bag.
Speaker 4: I guess it is.
Speaker 2: A mixed bag.
Speaker 4: Where where do you see twenty twenty eight? Where do
you see do you think that we have Do you
have like a horse in the race that you like?
Speaker 2: I like Ruby too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think he's morally clear.
Speaker 3: I think he's shown that he can handle many hats
and he has a real Yes, every single hot domestic,
every single hot I have like all these memes of him.
Speaker 2: It's so funny.
Speaker 3: No, I just I just feel like he's very morally clear.
I think it'll be amazing to have like a Latin president.
I just think that would be amazing, and I think
it would be really great for that vote. And he's
also just so humble, like he doesn't take credit for anything.
Speaker 2: You're so smart, he just gets it done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a great sense of humor, he's charismatic.
I just I think he's the one agreed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been very very impressed. Yes, all of his
roles and his many many hats. Well, he's performed at
every job that Trump gives him.
Speaker 2: He's like, I've got it, I'm on it.
Speaker 4: He does, he does, and I think he's I think
he's secretary of.
Speaker 2: State too, isn't he like he's everything.
Speaker 3: I saw a meme where he's like the president of Venezuela.
Speaker 2: He does everything, he does everything.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a very interesting primary, no doubt.
I guess we'll see what.
Speaker 2: Happens in the meantime.
Speaker 1: Where can people follow you, see your show and follow
you in all your things.
Speaker 2: The show is on Netflix.
Speaker 3: We actually were Emmy nominated in the first season, which
is like huge for us. But it's a very different
kind of plastic surgery show where we actually follow the
journeys of real people and it's emotional and you're gonna
cry for eight hours.
Speaker 2: It's great. So that's not one.
Speaker 3: And then on Instagram, I'm doctor Sheila Nazarian. On x
i am doctor Nazarian and that's you know, from there
you'll find everything else.
Speaker 2: Fantastic. That's been a joy talking things.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you,