1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right podcast. Today, 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,280 we're very excited to talk to doctor Shila Nasarien. She 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,119 is a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon, founder of Nazarian Skin 4 00:00:11,279 --> 00:00:15,119 and you might recognize her if you watch the Netflix 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:20,120 series Skin Decision Before and After. She has also appeared 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,640 on a ton of other shows and outlets, including some 7 00:00:22,679 --> 00:00:27,120 of our favorites like Prager You and Newsmax. And if 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,640 you're not familiar with her, she is a very outspoken 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:35,039 conservative activist, a Jewish Iranian American strong defender of Israel, 10 00:00:35,079 --> 00:00:35,439 which of. 11 00:00:35,399 --> 00:00:37,399 Speaker 2: Course we love. Yet and. 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Recently, you actually have talked about a concept that we 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,600 have mentioned from time to time on our show, to 14 00:00:45,759 --> 00:00:49,920 Kia talk about how that relates to what we're seeing 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,039 happening right now in Iran. 16 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: It's not even just right now, you guys, I mean 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:01,240 the these Islamists will do whatever it takes to achieve 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,560 the end goal, which is a caliphate, a worldwide caliphate. So, 19 00:01:05,879 --> 00:01:08,400 just to give your audience a little bit of a 20 00:01:08,439 --> 00:01:11,719 background on me, I was actually born in New York 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,799 on vacation and we went back to Iran, and that 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,560 was nineteen seventy nine and the revolution started months later. 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: It's a very interesting concept. 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,799 Speaker 3: That I think it's new to people, but they actually 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,879 wouldn't let us leave. So a lot of times, like 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,200 with Maduro for example, millions of people left, you know, 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,599 and or were exiled in Iran. It was such a 28 00:01:32,599 --> 00:01:35,239 brain and money drain that they actually wouldn't let you leave. 29 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,239 So the Iran Iraq War started a year later after 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,640 I was born, so it was nineteen eighty to nineteen 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,239 eighty five. There was bombs flying, I remember, just like 32 00:01:44,239 --> 00:01:46,319 in Israel. The sirens go off and then you see 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,120 the lights coming through the sky, very similar, except we 34 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:51,159 don't have bomb shelters in Iran. So we would just 35 00:01:51,159 --> 00:01:53,359 go to the window and my mom would say, let's 36 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:57,519 go watch the fireworks. Moms did land close by, one 37 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,519 landed a couple blocks away, and you know, it was 38 00:02:00,599 --> 00:02:03,519 just like my parents could see, especially my mom, she 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,840 could see this wasn't a good place to raise her 40 00:02:05,879 --> 00:02:09,400 two daughters for obvious reasons that we're hearing about now. 41 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,840 And my dad used to be the chief medical officer 42 00:02:12,879 --> 00:02:15,639 for the Shaw's Hospital, and so you know, anyone related 43 00:02:15,759 --> 00:02:18,039 in any shape, away or form to the Shaw whether 44 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,960 you're Muslim, Jewish, behy, whatever, you were killed or jailed. 45 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,360 So my dad was a pathologist and he had diagnosed 46 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,479 a parasite in one of his lab tech's eyes and 47 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,400 saved his eyesight. And the lab tech was part of 48 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:33,719 the resistance to the SHAW, and he basically came to 49 00:02:33,759 --> 00:02:35,719 my dad one day and said, you saved my eyesight, 50 00:02:35,759 --> 00:02:36,719 I'm going to save your life. 51 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:39,199 Speaker 2: You're on the list. You need to get off my gosh, 52 00:02:39,319 --> 00:02:39,840 yeah wow. 53 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: And so very shortly thereafter, my dad said he was 54 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,560 going on a medical conference to you know, Vienna, as 55 00:02:46,599 --> 00:02:49,120 he did from time to time, and so they said, okay, 56 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,120 you can go, but you have to leave the passports 57 00:02:51,159 --> 00:02:53,439 of your wife and your two daughters with us. 58 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: So that's what we did. 59 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,439 Speaker 3: He went to Vienna, and a couple of weeks after that, 60 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,560 my mom took me and my sister to a bazaar 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,439 and we got in the back of a covered truck 62 00:03:05,159 --> 00:03:08,479 kind of fetal positioned amongst ourselves and strangers. They put 63 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,000 burr lap sacks on top of us and corn on 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,960 top of that, and then in that position and I 65 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,759 remember there was like a rod, you know, or like 66 00:03:15,759 --> 00:03:17,800 you're supposed to tie down the crop. It was like 67 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,919 going into my rib and I kept complaining to my 68 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,120 mom like she's like, be quiet, be quiet. So we 69 00:03:23,159 --> 00:03:26,319 got close to the Pakistani border. We got out of 70 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,840 this situation and this truck went to a bathroom which 71 00:03:29,879 --> 00:03:33,199 was basically a hole in the ground in a clay hut. 72 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:35,919 And I remember the hole was like so deep and 73 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,639 so wide. My mom had to hold me so I 74 00:03:37,639 --> 00:03:39,360 could like pee on top of it. 75 00:03:39,599 --> 00:03:42,199 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is like not without my daughter? 76 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,919 Speaker 3: Nice. Can I tell you the craziest thing I watched 77 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,639 Not Without My mom passed away when I was sixteen, 78 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,159 but I watched Not Without my daughter with her. And 79 00:03:50,199 --> 00:03:51,719 do you remember that scene when she came out of 80 00:03:51,719 --> 00:03:54,360 the desert. She was just covered in sand. My Mom's 81 00:03:54,639 --> 00:03:56,639 exactly what we looked like when we came out. 82 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,479 Speaker 2: That's crazy too. 83 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: After the whole bathroom thing where that's when my mom 84 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,080 finally told me we were going to America. And I was 85 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,360 really excited to meet Michael Jackson because we had so 86 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,759 we had like bootleg thriller videos that they would you 87 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,879 sell out the street anyway, So we got into a 88 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,680 rock and we were sitting on top of our luggage. 89 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: We spent a night in the desert. 90 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,519 Speaker 3: And around two three in the morning, the border police sauce. 91 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,680 Now this is interesting. The border police that started shooting 92 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,519 at us were Iranian, not the Pakistani's preventing us from entering. 93 00:04:31,319 --> 00:04:34,120 It was the Iranian border police trying to hold us 94 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:39,120 from leaving d You see, it's so different. And what 95 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,480 was really interesting too, is like a few years ago 96 00:04:41,519 --> 00:04:44,519 I went to Dubai for the first time and we 97 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,040 went on one of these desert adventures. Have you ever been 98 00:04:47,079 --> 00:04:50,160 on those where you're like going like this trucks, so, 99 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,680 you know, I remember my mom telling me we're going 100 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:55,720 to go on a roller coaster through the desert. And 101 00:04:55,759 --> 00:04:58,360 when I got in these trucks and we're doing this, 102 00:04:58,439 --> 00:05:00,800 it's really scary. Like one of the trucks it actually flip, 103 00:05:00,959 --> 00:05:04,720 you know, like it like brought back that core memory 104 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,920 of us on the back of this pickup truck doing 105 00:05:06,959 --> 00:05:09,279 this over the dunes, trying to get into Pakistan. 106 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:09,759 Speaker 2: Crazy. 107 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: So, if we did get into Pakistan, we were there 108 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,720 for three months waiting for visas to reunite with my 109 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,000 dad in Vienna finally, which we did, and then we 110 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,680 were in Vienna for another three months. 111 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: Waiting to legally come to America. So and then you 112 00:05:26,319 --> 00:05:27,800 went to La. 113 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:30,519 Speaker 3: We were in New York for like a month because 114 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,199 we have some family in New York and some family 115 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,279 in LA. And then it got to be too cold 116 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,639 and we were like, okay. 117 00:05:35,399 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 4: Not this right. 118 00:05:37,079 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: We went to La. 119 00:05:37,759 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: We were living in a two bedroom apartment with my 120 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:42,720 cousin and her fan and her parents, and so it 121 00:05:42,759 --> 00:05:45,160 was like eight people in the two bedroom apartment. My 122 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,319 dad would ride his bike to the public library so 123 00:05:47,319 --> 00:05:49,079 it could study for his board exam, so we could 124 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,920 practice medicine in America. I mean, but you know, what come, 125 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,240 I didn't know any English, Like I had a mustache 126 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,800 and they wouldn't let me shave my legs. It was 127 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,000 like a tough transition, you know, but I'm so like 128 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,480 grateful to be here. 129 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: And so you know, people here. 130 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 3: In America, you know, either defending these dictators or defending socialism, 131 00:06:14,519 --> 00:06:16,600 because you know, it was it was the Communist Party 132 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,439 of Iran, which was a college campus thing, joining hands 133 00:06:20,439 --> 00:06:23,519 with the Islamists that overthrew the Shaw and brought in 134 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,240 this regime in Iran. And we would hear the same 135 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:29,360 things we're hearing here always flowery words, these words. 136 00:06:29,079 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: That sound so good, like equity. 137 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: Oh why is living in a castle while there's homeless 138 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,000 people on the streets. 139 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,079 Speaker 2: That's not equity? 140 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,439 Speaker 3: Or joy? What was the what was this the key 141 00:06:40,439 --> 00:06:42,160 word for the Biden Harris campaign? 142 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:44,519 Speaker 4: Joy? 143 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, same word, you know, So it was it 144 00:06:48,519 --> 00:06:52,120 was and then started on the college campuses, and so 145 00:06:52,519 --> 00:06:55,399 you know these Arii teens during the college campus you 146 00:06:55,439 --> 00:06:59,560 know Hamas pro Hamas situation that we just witnessed these 147 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,040 ari I tens or like five hundred, six hundred bucks each. 148 00:07:02,079 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: Who's paying for that? 149 00:07:03,519 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: Ye? It actually was just they're using the same formula 150 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,879 that worked in Iran to brainwash our college you know 151 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,879 kids and do the same thing that happened here. 152 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: I mean it was. 153 00:07:17,519 --> 00:07:20,319 Speaker 3: There's a picture that's really famous of two college girls 154 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,720 and they're holding up a picture of Hormani and they're like. 155 00:07:25,319 --> 00:07:27,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they were probably some of the first to 156 00:07:27,319 --> 00:07:28,600 go right after he got it. 157 00:07:29,279 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: They were the first to be killed. Yeah, right, this 158 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,480 is the but this is actually do this intersectionality was 159 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:36,360 invented in Iran. 160 00:07:36,399 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: I'm converted and it's not just but it's not just college. Listen, 161 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,560 the college students are probably the worst. But I don't 162 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,160 know are they because I look around at some of 163 00:07:44,199 --> 00:07:47,120 the women who are our age, like these white liberal 164 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,800 women who are middle aged women. 165 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,639 Speaker 3: I mean like literally, I'm in Like there's a female 166 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,519 plastic surgeon who's a white liberal woman, and she's insane, 167 00:07:56,959 --> 00:07:59,000 like literally insane, Like I think she's insane. 168 00:07:59,079 --> 00:07:59,399 Speaker 2: I do. 169 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 4: I think a lot of them are insane. 170 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,839 Speaker 2: Facebook telling me what Iran is, Oh my god, my god, 171 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,040 she never. 172 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:11,319 Speaker 3: Even like lived there, what do you and telling me 173 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,680 what you know, uh, the regime is, and telling me 174 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,639 how I should feel. 175 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:20,399 Speaker 2: I mean, how insane are you? Like, she's insane? There's nothing. Wow, 176 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,040 it's either your possessed or you're insane, right. 177 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 4: Your perspective is so unique, And I think that's what Like, 178 00:08:27,079 --> 00:08:31,519 I think I look at these the college protesters, these 179 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,960 middle aged white women, these people who are out there, 180 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,759 and they are so hungry to accept all this Islamist crap, 181 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,759 and we're just looking We're looking at them, But what 182 00:08:40,799 --> 00:08:43,320 are you doing? And I guess I look at you 183 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:45,879 and I think, Okay, you obviously have this perspective which 184 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,120 is different than a college you know, spoiled bratt college 185 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,000 kid on you know, one of these campuses, you know, 186 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,519 and I look at Mack who who's her parents are, 187 00:08:55,639 --> 00:08:59,440 you know, first generation immigrants from Poland, and so she 188 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,559 just has a very it's this notion of being grateful 189 00:09:02,799 --> 00:09:04,919 to be here. Yeah, I mean that's one of the 190 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:05,440 things that I. 191 00:09:05,399 --> 00:09:07,639 Speaker 2: Try to actually knowing what real oppression is. 192 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: Right, It's key, like you know, these little like I 193 00:09:12,639 --> 00:09:15,480 went to Columbia University, right, like you know, it was 194 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,200 like the worst college campus when it comes to all 195 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,279 of this stuff, like so indoctrinated. I stop donating to them, 196 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,639 like fifteen years ago. Every time they send me something 197 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,639 to donate, I write, protect your Jewish you know, students, 198 00:09:26,639 --> 00:09:29,720 and I send it back with a black So you know, 199 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,559 I went there and me here, I'm thinking, like I 200 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,320 have I come to this country no connections, Like yeah, 201 00:09:34,519 --> 00:09:37,279 I made it, you guys, I made it, like toally 202 00:09:37,759 --> 00:09:40,960 three teenagers and like my daughter applied to schools. I 203 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:46,000 didn't even let her apply to Columbia like legacy. 204 00:09:46,279 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 4: It's just let me ask you. 205 00:09:48,279 --> 00:09:51,159 Speaker 1: I'm just curious because we're so in the thick of 206 00:09:51,799 --> 00:09:56,559 you know, this revolution happening in Iran, and now of 207 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,000 course there's you know a lot of people who are 208 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,360 just so so America first at this point that they 209 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,039 cannot understand that we are part of a global community 210 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,399 and everything that happens in the world does actually. 211 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: Reach and impact us. 212 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,879 Speaker 1: What do you think the United States should do? Like, 213 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,720 what should our role be in this conflict? 214 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's a tough one, right because 215 00:10:22,039 --> 00:10:24,080 you know, you don't want to say, oh, send you know, 216 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,840 our own sons and boots on the ground. But our 217 00:10:26,879 --> 00:10:32,440 technology is so amazing that I think there's other alternatives 218 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,480 and ways that we can help the Iranian people. 219 00:10:36,639 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: One, like the easiest one armed them. Arm them. 220 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: Can we drop some like guns somewhere, or like smuggle 221 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,679 some guns in and arm these protesters so they're not 222 00:10:46,799 --> 00:10:50,679 just like lane ducks being shot at. You know, I've 223 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,000 seen numbers in the six hundreds. I've seen twelve thousand. 224 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,000 I've seen twenty thousand have been killed, right, and you 225 00:10:58,039 --> 00:11:02,559 know they're just literally marching and they're going their snipers 226 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,080 on the roofs, just shooting into the crowd. I mean, 227 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,799 can we not arm these people and let them do it? 228 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,519 I mean, that's I think the easiest thing. Other way 229 00:11:11,639 --> 00:11:15,960 cyber attacks, you know, cyber attacks on the regime. I 230 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,799 think the you know tariffs that President Trump put in 231 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,000 anybody who does business with Iran immediate twenty five percent tariff. 232 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:26,639 But it's not going to help the these young, amazing 233 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:29,799 people on the ground, and you know, being Iranian and 234 00:11:29,919 --> 00:11:33,159 knowing the brain power of these people and the culture 235 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,559 and the warmth. When I see one person killed, it's 236 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,360 a whole world that's not just not like their lives. 237 00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:42,559 You know, these lives aren't cheap, these people are. They dance, 238 00:11:42,639 --> 00:11:45,600 they sing with their friends. They you know, in Iran, 239 00:11:45,919 --> 00:11:47,799 if you go up to someone ladies and you're like, 240 00:11:47,799 --> 00:11:49,639 oh my god, I love your eyeliner, she will literally 241 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:50,720 take it out of her bag. 242 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:51,279 Speaker 2: And just hand it to you. 243 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,279 Speaker 3: It's the warmth and this is the generosity of the culture. 244 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,519 So to see these young people who just want freedom, 245 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,159 who just want to just basic human rights, and you know, 246 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,759 the real has officially gone to like zero, like it's 247 00:12:08,759 --> 00:12:09,679 worth nothing now. 248 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: So imagine working your whole. 249 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: Life and you have savings and one day you wake 250 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:21,279 up and it's just worth nothing. Yeah, it's economic, it's 251 00:12:21,759 --> 00:12:25,919 human rights. It's old people, it's young people, it's women, 252 00:12:26,039 --> 00:12:29,559 it's men, it's every economic class. It's every single province 253 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,799 in Iran has risen up because they're just like, you know, 254 00:12:33,799 --> 00:12:37,679 what's the alternative. It's like, what's the alternative? Like I 255 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,360 can't work, it's worth nothing. 256 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,279 Speaker 4: Right, And then people in this country, women, you know, 257 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,720 in this country, have the audacity to say that we're oppressed. 258 00:12:45,919 --> 00:12:47,559 You know, because I'm listening to you and I'm like, 259 00:12:47,639 --> 00:12:48,440 I can't imagine. 260 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: How is that Columbia, Like these girls are sitting there 261 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:52,600 with their like eight dollars Starbucks and they're like one 262 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:55,519 hundreds point dollars lou Lemons talk how they're so oppressed? 263 00:12:55,919 --> 00:12:56,519 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 264 00:12:56,919 --> 00:13:00,919 Speaker 4: It's just it's madness. It's absolute madness. Speaking of madness, 265 00:13:00,919 --> 00:13:03,840 there are people who used to be on our side 266 00:13:03,879 --> 00:13:06,879 of the aisle, who are you know, saying like Candace 267 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,639 is saying, Oh, this isn't happening and this is all 268 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,799 just made up, you know, because I mean Bbe's trying 269 00:13:10,799 --> 00:13:12,240 to get land and stuff like that. I mean there 270 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,519 are people She's one, there's other people on our side 271 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:17,240 of the used to be there. 272 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,279 Speaker 3: I don't even ban tell like I just interviewed Bannon 273 00:13:21,399 --> 00:13:23,320 like months ago, and he was so great. 274 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, like so for me, there's like different reasons. 275 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,639 Speaker 3: I think people like you know that have kind of 276 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,200 left mainstream media and they don't have a paycheck anymore. 277 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,559 I think they're getting a paycheck from elsewhere, whether it's 278 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,480 just clicks or actual paychecks. But like, why would you 279 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,840 defend a regime that rapes a woman before it kills her? 280 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,360 Because if a virgin gets killed, they go to heaven, 281 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:47,879 and they don't even want her to go to heaven, 282 00:13:47,919 --> 00:13:48,799 so they have to rape. 283 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:50,799 Speaker 2: Her first before they go to the head. I mean, 284 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,759 this is the regime that you are defending. 285 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,879 Speaker 3: Okay, So in the case of Tucker and maybe even 286 00:13:57,919 --> 00:14:00,360 Bannon and these people, I think they're just you know, 287 00:14:00,399 --> 00:14:03,720 getting their clicks. It pays to be anti Semitic. There's 288 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:07,480 fifteen million Jews, there's billions of anti Semites, and you're 289 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,840 going to get clicks, and so that's how they're going 290 00:14:09,919 --> 00:14:12,759 to make their money. In the case of Candace Owens, 291 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:17,720 I literally think it's like either she has postpartum psychosis 292 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,159 or I think she's possessed. Like I really think, like 293 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,559 it's a Jezebel kind of situation. Don't follow the truth, 294 00:14:25,639 --> 00:14:27,919 follow me, I'm the truth. 295 00:14:28,279 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's crazier and crazier. I mean, like the 296 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:34,399 most recent stuff that she's been talking about with like 297 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,120 time travel and. 298 00:14:36,159 --> 00:14:37,879 Speaker 2: Like ancient Samaric. 299 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,879 Speaker 1: It's so crazy, and it's almost as if she's like 300 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:48,080 Tea just testing her sheep the following to see what 301 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:48,679 they do. 302 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: How far did she go? 303 00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:55,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yes, it's unfortunately, like I do think, and I 304 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,320 don't know if if it's our food supply or the 305 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,639 kind of education, or hormones in the meat, like I 306 00:15:04,639 --> 00:15:08,080 don't know what's happening, drugs, Like I don't know, but 307 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,559 I do feel like the population is getting dumbed down, 308 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:18,960 especially like doing business with people and interacting like it is. 309 00:15:19,159 --> 00:15:22,600 It's it's very clear to me the level of critical 310 00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:27,679 thinking curiosity has gone down. People just like don't want 311 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,840 to just go figure stuff out anymore. It's like, oh, 312 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,039 I don't know how to do that. Let me watch 313 00:15:32,039 --> 00:15:35,759 a couple. I mean, information has never been more easily accessible. 314 00:15:35,799 --> 00:15:38,200 There is no reason why you can't figure it out. 315 00:15:38,559 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, the dummer there, dummer and lazier, dumber, lazier. 316 00:15:42,159 --> 00:15:43,679 Speaker 2: No one scary to me too. 317 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: And then imagine Ladies when AI comes in and takes 318 00:15:47,759 --> 00:15:49,799 away those entry level jobs. 319 00:15:50,799 --> 00:15:53,159 Speaker 2: Like I feel like, remember Wally when the people are 320 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:53,519 just like. 321 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,279 Speaker 3: Sitting in the thing and they're like the aunts have 322 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,600 gotten really short because they don't do anything with that. 323 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,799 So ye, like I feel like, honestly, that's where we're headed. 324 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:06,879 Like it's actually really scary. So, you know, them trying 325 00:16:06,919 --> 00:16:10,120 to bring in socialism and dependence on the government requires 326 00:16:10,159 --> 00:16:16,240 a dumbed down, for sure reliant population. I'm just saying, like, 327 00:16:16,279 --> 00:16:18,279 thank God for the people in the middle of the country, 328 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,080 you know, working hard with their guns, like that's what 329 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:22,840 we need, you know. 330 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, but at least fifty percent of that, but fifty 331 00:16:25,639 --> 00:16:28,440 percent of us, about half of us are buying into 332 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:29,120 that bull crap. 333 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: There's a lot of us. 334 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 4: I mean, we've been doing this for seventeen years, and 335 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,159 I have never seen so many people that are so 336 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,759 complacent in the face of just flat out communism and 337 00:16:39,799 --> 00:16:41,519 then in the Islamism. 338 00:16:41,879 --> 00:16:44,159 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's also like complacency or like 339 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:49,919 everyone just wants no discomfort, right, So if they say, oh, 340 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,559 I'm just gonna lose all my friends, I'm going to 341 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,720 get in fights with all these people online, and that's 342 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,440 just going to make me so uncomfortable, so I'm just 343 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,279 going to say nothing. 344 00:16:58,039 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I know, it's become such a rat like, 345 00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:02,639 I mean, all of these protesters. 346 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: Are getting paid. 347 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: The worst among us are being rewarded constantly, and so 348 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,960 it's it's amazing to see the level to which Democrats, liberals, progressives, 349 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,359 whatever you want to call them are. They're so eager 350 00:17:16,559 --> 00:17:20,039 to defend the indefensible, like they always want to put 351 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:24,839 their arms around the worst people. It just is mind 352 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:25,880 blowing to watch it. 353 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, so true, But what do you think it's causing 354 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,680 that you tell me you're being doing this for seventeen years, 355 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,920 like I'm actually like, for me seeing you know, these 356 00:17:36,039 --> 00:17:39,559 white liberal women defending the Islamic regime. I think it's 357 00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:43,119 because they're funding Hamas, and so if they go against 358 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,359 the Islamic regime, it's like saying the last two years 359 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,920 of all their activism was worth nothing, right, because the 360 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,359 Islamic regime is Hamas is his bola these and so 361 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,359 you know, to defend this regime that is so violent 362 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,200 and so brutal, and you know how the highest they 363 00:18:01,279 --> 00:18:03,359 hang they hung a thousand people last year. 364 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like per capita, it's the highest. 365 00:18:05,599 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 3: Amount of killings, and so to defend that, I just 366 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,960 feel like where it is, Where do you guys think 367 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,200 this cognitive dissonance is coming from? 368 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 4: One. I think it's a or like you think you 369 00:18:16,319 --> 00:18:18,839 nailed it when you said our education system. I think 370 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:22,079 it's just absolute shit at this point. Excuse my language, 371 00:18:22,279 --> 00:18:25,519 but I just think it's awful. There's there's it's the 372 00:18:25,559 --> 00:18:27,880 worst it's ever been, at least in my lifetime. And 373 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,480 so that's part of it. And then I think there's 374 00:18:30,519 --> 00:18:32,480 a lot of things that you mentioned in when you 375 00:18:32,519 --> 00:18:35,839 were just talking about all the different components that make 376 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,119 up our lives every single day. I think parenting has 377 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,960 gone by the wayside. I think family has gone by 378 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,559 the wayside. I think that there's just a lack of 379 00:18:44,599 --> 00:18:50,839 people that value life and just the I remember when 380 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,400 it used to be that, like the family was such 381 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,519 a huge that was what was important in people's lives, 382 00:18:57,519 --> 00:18:59,559 and nobody cares about that anymore. In fact, people poo 383 00:18:59,559 --> 00:19:01,599 poo that you see it in our movies and the TV. 384 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,920 People they don't value that stuff anymore. I know that 385 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:09,160 that may not have a direct correlation to like critical thinking, 386 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,200 but I think just having values in our society. Everything 387 00:19:13,279 --> 00:19:14,519 is broken down and everything. 388 00:19:14,519 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 3: Which was really interesting is like people are making you 389 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,440 these these movies and like the media and everything, they're making. 390 00:19:20,319 --> 00:19:23,279 Speaker 2: You question your values. Right, Like I just took. 391 00:19:23,079 --> 00:19:26,599 Speaker 3: My kids to see what's the latest cartoon movie that 392 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,599 came out? 393 00:19:28,759 --> 00:19:31,039 Speaker 2: It was like the snake. The snake was the hero. 394 00:19:31,319 --> 00:19:35,519 Did you watch this now? Oh my god, I'll. 395 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 4: Find out your kids. 396 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: How old are your kids? 397 00:19:36,759 --> 00:19:38,319 Speaker 3: You? Like I have I have an eighteen year old, 398 00:19:38,319 --> 00:19:40,599 a seventeen year old, and a fourteen year old. But 399 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:43,200 we just it's like it was it was like part two. 400 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,720 It was oh god, I'm just trying to think what the. 401 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: Name of it. 402 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: Anyway, So like in all these movies, right, the you 403 00:19:50,039 --> 00:19:54,480 know the snake biblically, right, is you know, the bad guy, 404 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,839 But in this movie, like if the snake starts out 405 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,960 the bad guy, but then you start to feel empathy 406 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,160 for the snake or like you know Kate Pop Demon Hunters, 407 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,799 it's like, oh, the demons. 408 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: Aren't so bad. They're like, oh my god, like all 409 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:07,640 of these things. 410 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 3: And I've been saying this to my kids and they're like, Mom, 411 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,279 You're like you're crazy, and I'm like no, I'm not. 412 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:17,160 They're just making everything that like biblically was taught to 413 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:22,400 us to be evil or sign of evil, is being 414 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,319 made into like well maybe it's not so bad. 415 00:20:24,319 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: Oh, even maleficent. 416 00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:29,039 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, a great example. 417 00:20:29,279 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: The true love is her love. 418 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's a great example. 419 00:20:33,839 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 4: Do you see this or like it's it's everywhere, it 420 00:20:37,559 --> 00:20:38,039 is everywhere. 421 00:20:38,079 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: And it's also you know, there's a there's the whole 422 00:20:40,759 --> 00:20:45,079 social media factor now too, that it's so much easier 423 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:51,279 today to organize horrible people together and and and there's 424 00:20:51,319 --> 00:20:54,519 so much of a reward for their horrible behavior now, 425 00:20:54,559 --> 00:20:56,599 and so I think that ties into it too, the 426 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,920 fact that now you can get paid to go and 427 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,039 be destructive and protest law enforcement. I mean, everything has 428 00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:06,000 gotten so crazy, and social media has made it that 429 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,000 much easier to just throw yourself into the into the 430 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:12,799 mix and get the attention and get the clicks yourself. 431 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,119 And you know, one of the good things about that 432 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,279 is these independent investigative journalists like Nick Shirley. But then 433 00:21:19,519 --> 00:21:21,759 the flip side is that you've got all the monsters 434 00:21:21,799 --> 00:21:25,720 who crave the attention for the worst reasons, right, So 435 00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:26,640 it's a mixed bag. 436 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,279 Speaker 4: I guess it is. 437 00:21:28,279 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: A mixed bag. 438 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:31,799 Speaker 4: Where where do you see twenty twenty eight? Where do 439 00:21:31,839 --> 00:21:33,640 you see do you think that we have Do you 440 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,759 have like a horse in the race that you like? 441 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: I like Ruby too. 442 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:40,519 Speaker 4: Yeah. 443 00:21:40,759 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think he's morally clear. 444 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,759 Speaker 3: I think he's shown that he can handle many hats 445 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,400 and he has a real Yes, every single hot domestic, 446 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,759 every single hot I have like all these memes of him. 447 00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 2: It's so funny. 448 00:21:56,319 --> 00:21:58,839 Speaker 3: No, I just I just feel like he's very morally clear. 449 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,839 I think it'll be amazing to have like a Latin president. 450 00:22:02,039 --> 00:22:04,720 I just think that would be amazing, and I think 451 00:22:04,759 --> 00:22:08,400 it would be really great for that vote. And he's 452 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,319 also just so humble, like he doesn't take credit for anything. 453 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,799 Speaker 2: You're so smart, he just gets it done. 454 00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a great sense of humor, he's charismatic. 455 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,720 I just I think he's the one agreed. 456 00:22:21,319 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been very very impressed. Yes, all of his 457 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,119 roles and his many many hats. Well, he's performed at 458 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,240 every job that Trump gives him. 459 00:22:31,279 --> 00:22:32,559 Speaker 2: He's like, I've got it, I'm on it. 460 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 4: He does, he does, and I think he's I think 461 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:35,839 he's secretary of. 462 00:22:35,799 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: State too, isn't he like he's everything. 463 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:45,759 Speaker 3: I saw a meme where he's like the president of Venezuela. 464 00:22:42,519 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 2: He does everything, he does everything. 465 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,759 Speaker 1: It's going to be a very interesting primary, no doubt. 466 00:22:51,839 --> 00:22:52,880 I guess we'll see what. 467 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: Happens in the meantime. 468 00:22:54,079 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: Where can people follow you, see your show and follow 469 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,920 you in all your things. 470 00:23:01,319 --> 00:23:02,799 Speaker 2: The show is on Netflix. 471 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: We actually were Emmy nominated in the first season, which 472 00:23:06,839 --> 00:23:09,160 is like huge for us. But it's a very different 473 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,319 kind of plastic surgery show where we actually follow the 474 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,880 journeys of real people and it's emotional and you're gonna 475 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:15,720 cry for eight hours. 476 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,519 Speaker 2: It's great. So that's not one. 477 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:22,799 Speaker 3: And then on Instagram, I'm doctor Sheila Nazarian. On x 478 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,920 i am doctor Nazarian and that's you know, from there 479 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,000 you'll find everything else. 480 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,559 Speaker 2: Fantastic. That's been a joy talking things. 481 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:31,799 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 482 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,839 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you,