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your support. So I just heard during the top of
the hour newscast and got the information as well from
Charlotte Mecklenberg Police that they have now identified a victim
in a shooting that occurred yesterday afternoon, as well as
they have identified the suspect in that shooting, who is
also now deceased because cops shot him. So the story
is as such from the Charlotte as well as WBTV
and WSOC, So I'm pulling information from all of these
different sources. So officers responded yesterday afternoon to a call
about a shooting near the intersection of Hoskins Road and
Black Avenue. This is northwest Charlotte near Brookshire Boulevard. Okay,
one person was found dead at the scene and according
to unclear if there were two victims here that have died.
They have identified one victim and that is thirty eight
year old justin Westbrook Carlton. There was another victim, another
shooting victim who was taken to the hospital. But I
don't know if that person, if that second person has
I don't see an identification of that second person or
whether or not they survived. I see conflicting reports. But
these were from earlier this morning. So that's the first
call that goes out that there is a shooting near
Brookshire Boulevard. Police respond to that scene, find one person
dead at the scene. Shortly thereafter, according to Charlotte Mecklenburg
Police Chief Johnny Jennings, police get another call in the
same general area where the first shooting occurred, and this
call is about a home invasion and kidnapping and that
the suspect was driving a stolen vehicle so from that
woman's home. So apparently the suspect, who has now been
identified as twenty eight year old Joseph Andrade a and
Drade and Raid Andrade and Dre andreid whatever uh, he
is dead now. Also, he is apparently the one he
went to this woman's home. He uh, I guess, you know,
forced his way into her home, kidnapped her h and
you know, put her into her vehicle. He then, you know,
with him driving, steals her vehicle as well, so they
get this report. Don't know who called it in of
a kidnapping and home invasion. Officers then spot the vehicle
with the suspect driving and the kidnapped woman in the
passenger seat. By the way, I'm reminded, in these types
of situations, you can't outrun a radio. Okay, just cannot
run a radio. Officers chase the vehicle while the suspect
starts then firing at cars at their police cars. The
suspect then crashes his vehicle right outside of our studios,
right like a block away if you know where Freedom
and More head that intersection where Pinky's restaurant is. That's
like at the bottom of the hill there. It's like,
I mean, I can see it from out the window.
This happened yesterday at about four o'clock. You know, like
I just I just was out there two weeks ago,
not even two weeks ago, after I got off Arrow
was over there at one of the restaurants across the
street from from Pinkies, there's Town Brewing that's over there,
Rhino Market and Delhi Broad Daylight. The guy crashes the
at that intersection. He gets out and he starts running away.
Police pursue him on foot, and according to the police chief,
as they are running, the suspect continued to fire rounds
at officers, so as he's running away, he's just shooting
at the police. Again. Like that corner there, like there's
a dunkin Donuts on one corner. There's Pinky's restaurant that
believe they've got outdoor seating as well on that corner
lot I think they do. Across the street with the
other corner, you've got a little Town Brewing and they've
got outdoor seating, and the Rhino Deli they've got outdoor seating.
There's the other restaurant I'm drawing a blank on the
name they've got outdoor seating. And then across the street
from there, so all four of the corners, the other
corner has well, it used to be a Wakovia bank,
but that's closed now, so there's nothing on the other corner.
But this is a populated area, right broad Daylight start
a rush hour, you know, people leaving from work, people
hanging out, walking their dogs and stuff all over the place.
And this guy's shooting out the car and then running
through the street, just shooting at cops. And like, this
is what do they call this Freemore West? I think
it's what they're calling this area Freedom Drive Morehead And
I don't know what the west is, maybe just Westside,
but they're calling it Freemore or Freemore West because they
you know, they label all of the different areas now.
And I got to tell you, somebody who has worked
in this building for I guess it would be like
seventeen of the last twenty five years I have worked
in this building. I remember what this area was like
twenty five years ago, and that kind of stuff was
pretty prevalent twenty five years ago in this part of town.
We're on the west side and you go up Freedom Drive.
There was a lot of violence, a lot of crime
occurring on Freedom Drive up Moriedge Street. There was a
place like right across the street from US I believe
it was called the Toll House, and they were constantly
getting raided for like prostitution and stuff. All of the
property around the radio station here was undeveloped, and the
joke in the building was always that that's where you know,
they threw all of the bodies. There was, you know,
prostitution all up and down the road here. And then
you go up to the end of Morehead and you're
on Wilkinson Boulevard and or Highway seventy four, which you
know goes all the way to the mountains, all the
way to the coast, but through that little stretch to
the airport also a lot of crime and a lot
of violence. And over the years, when I came back
to Charlotte, I was astounded at how much development had
occurred in this little area, and it has taken twenty
years for that to happen. And this is why I
keep focusing on this crime issue in Charlotte, because if
people do not feel safe, they are not going to
live here. They are not going to invest in a
project here. They're not going to build new homes or
apartment buildings or new commercial and retail space. Restaurants will
not be able to serve anybody because nobody wants to
come if they're going to get shot in the middle
of the day at an outdoor dining area. This is
why this stuff matters, and it's not just a person
reception of crime. And by the way, anybody want to
place some bets and not like not like the Chauncy
Billups and Terry Roser types of bets. I'm talking like bets, legitimate,
not rigged bets. Anybody want to place bets on whether
or not this twenty eight year old Joseph Vondrotti. Anybody
want to take bets on whether he's got a rap
sheet or do you think this was the very first
time he has engaged in criminal activity? Murdering two people
in the street, kicking in a door, kidnapping a woman,
stealing her car, firing at cops and then being gunned
down in the street. What do you think first time
with an interaction with law enforcement? I would bet no.
I would bet he has had some run ins. See,
this is why this stuff matters. You will lose the city.
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get ed on the program. Hello, Ed, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you, prey, enjoy the show, Thanks sir, Yes, you
are as Ed McMahon would say, you are correct, set,
I'm correct. There is a bit there's a bit of
a presence in the online database in the North Carolina
Administrative Offices of the Courts with said, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: So oh really so so my bet would have paid off,
probably not very well.
Speaker 2: Should have you know that heavy?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So Joseph Androtti, did you happen to you already
pulled it up? Do you did you see like, like
how long of a rap sheet? This guy happens?
Speaker 2: Good? There was a good scattering about civil and criminal things. Uh,
he had not gone into the probation system, so maybe
he's been dismissed like all these other people have. You know,
it's amazing some of these people. You google them and
you look on the court site which is now all online. Yes,
the lawyers and our judges are not telling us about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we I think we are. We became like
the first state, I think the first state to have
gone completely to courts the e court system. And it's
been bumpy and it's over. I mean, we've spent more
than expected. But my wife works in as a paralegal
and so like I listened to like some of the
stories she was telling when they were rolling this out
in Mecklinberg County. But I think Gaston County they just
went to it as well. But yeah, the whole point
is so everybody can have access and they can file
stuff and it streamlines all of the court filings throughout
all of the counties which had this sort of mishmash
hodgepodge approach. So yeah, so you can get this stuff now.
And I was told also, I think last week, that
our Mecklinberg County Sheriff's office database, the inmate inquiry system,
does not keep anything past about two or three years prior,
so you can't go to our Mecklinberg County sheriff website
to get that info anymore. So you got to go
through what the state court system.
Speaker 2: Well, the Sheriff's Unfortunately I had to, I had to
you utilize that and it was very the was very inconsistent. Yes,
and like unfortunately in my neighborhood it didn't get covered
by the media, but we had a Friday afternoon at
three o'clock about three weeks four or maybe a month ago,
a guy you know started shooting and they did get him.
But I think he's now on a ankle bracelet.
Speaker 1: Oh that that should make you feel very safe because
you can't fire him time.
Speaker 2: Ray, I just uh ay to call and see if
they're gonna geofence them and get him out. Of my
uh my neighborhood.
Speaker 1: I doubt that. I doubt they'll do that. But yeah, so,
I mean because I think once you have the ankle
monitor on, then you cannot then you cannot like fire
a gun. I think that's how that works.
Speaker 2: Well that's interesting, right, Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: No, thank you, Joe, all right, but I appreciate it. No,
I'm just kidding. Obviously, an ankle monitor does not prevent
somebody from engaging in further criminal activity. It just alerts
law enforcement in the court system that you know, somebody
has either cut the ankle bracelet off, or they've gone
someplace they're not supposed to go, or they have let
the monitor run out of battery juice. That's about it, right.
It doesn't prevent any crime. It just monitors and then
after the fact, if they violate the terms of the
probation in some way with the abuse of the monitor,
then you can throw another charge or so at them,
which will also then get dropped. Okay, just over clear
on the efficacy of the ankle monitoring. Alan says, yes,
these crime stories matter to the people of Charlotte. They
also matter for people like me who live forty miles
northwest of the city, who might decide not to shop
and dine there. Y, yes, And can you imagine what
would happen if people from the surrounding areas no longer
want to come to Charlotte or Mecklenburg County and spend
their disposable discretionary income or funding. They don't want to
spend their money in Mecklinberg County, And imagine the impact
that would have on Let's say, a sales tax that
is being promoted to fund trained Actually, no, I take
that back. It's not being promoted to fund the trains.
It's being promoted to fund the roads. So yeah, Charlotte
leaders are trying to get voters to approve a one
cent sales tax increase to fund quote unquote transportation. And
none of the mailing material that I have received, I've
gotten about I don't know. If you're like me, you've
probably pulled in about seven or eight of these mailers
by now, and none of them mentioned trains. It's all
about the roads. That's the pitch they want to tell everybody,
vote for this sales tax increase you can, so we
can fund all of the roads. But that's only forty
percent of the of the plan, roads only make up
forty percent. Another forty percent is for the train. Oh
and the road component. Yeah, that actually has bike lanes, sidewalks,
traffic lights, signalization, intersection improvements, that kind of stuff too. Yeah,
so it's kind of for roads. Yeah. Yeah, this is
going to be tough. It's going to be a tough sell.
I mean, maybe voters will pull it off. Maybe they'll
vote for their own tax increase. Yeah, that's possible. We'll
see what happens. Early voting is underway right now. But
if people that live outside of Charlotte don't want to
come in spend their money here. And by the way,
as the areas around Charlotte get developed, when people move
away from Charlotte and they move into these other areas,
and those areas build more housing, and then they build
more retail, people don't need to come here anymore for
that stuff. As the surrounding area improves and gets developed,
people are less likely to come in. See and if
you allow criminals to run wild through the streets, you've
just created yet another incentive, a life or death one
that will convince people not to come in. All right,
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writing at the Blaze dot com headline, make mandatory minimums.
Great again. Oh hang on, let me read. This is
a message on the text line from a random seven
oh four number. I used to work second ship on
a Tondo Avenue and that's in Charlotte, and we used
to play a game at night called fireworks or gunshots. Yes, uh,
I believe we probably played something like that as well
here back in the day. Do uh oh, there was
a message here also regarding the uh, the event yesterday
in Charlotte, in West Charlotte that culminated in the police
shooting the murderer, kidnapper, carjacker home invader just a block
from the studio here, John says, the biggest part of
the story you just read about the shooting and kidnapping yesterday,
police Chief Johnny Jennings actually made an appearance. Apparently. I
was certain that he just went ahead and moved on
to wherever he was going to sit around and count
as hurt feelings bonus money from the mayor. Yeah. Yeah,
he did put out of he did put out a video,
so Daniel Horowitz says, and this is at the Blaze
dot com when victim's advocates push for mandatory minimum sentences,
the leniency lobby instantly howls about judicial discretion. In theory,
that's right. In a just society, judges should have the
freedom to weigh every case, tailoring sentences to fit the crimes. Right,
And this is what I was talking about. I guess
it was yesterday or day before that there needs to
be some guidelines now constructed for magistrates and judges to
take this out of their hands. And what I struggle
with is that, I, well, all things being equal, right,
absent any kind of just wacky ideology, right that I
would want judges to have that discretion. But as a
resident of Realville, I know that a lot of these
judges and magistrates are employing a MacArthur Foundation funded type
of ideology that is reflected in cashless bail or, as
Horowitz calls it, the leniency lobby, you know, And I
don't know what to do about that. I would prefer
that judges have this discretion, but I don't trust you anymore.
I don't trust your judgment, which is a pretty crappy
way to view a judge. You know, it's literally your
job to judge, and I don't trust your judgment. I
don't believe that the things that you are doing, and
how you're behaving, and the rulings you're issuing, or the
pre trial terms of probation, whether the whole somebody or not.
I don't trust your judgment. Your judgment has been found
to be crap. So I guess this is what we
have to do. He says, America does not live in
that society. He says, in a just society, judges should
have the freedom to weigh every case and tailor the
sentences to fit the crimes. But we don't live in
that society anymore. We live in an era when violent
crime floods major cities and leftist judges treat predators like
misunderstood poets. As a great line, this is like the
how have we failed this person? Line of thinking in
this environment, he says, mandatory minimums are not cruel. They
are the only remaining safeguard for victims and the public.
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He says it's not enough to share viral videos of
street mayhem. Lawmakers must change laws. And then he goes
about listing a number of examples, and in six out
of the six examples he lists, Charlotte is three of them.
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As we do every Friday at this time, the host
of the Brett Winterboll Show joins us every Friday for
a little thing we like to call pregaming with Brett.
And his name coincidentally is Brett Winterble. Brett, how are
you today?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: I got two teas? I'm good. You got two teas.
Speaker 3: I got two te's.
Speaker 1: I see one and a sweater. Well there you go,
one T one sweater. Very nice. There is a tea
in sweater, there is and a T under your Look
at that. That's how it goes the magic of life.
So have you you got any big plans for mugshot Monday?
Speaker 3: Mugshot Monday?
Speaker 1: I don't. I wish I did.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna maybe think about it over the weekend.
I might do something very special. But you are on
a first name basis with Michael Wattley. I am and
he is the purveyor of the mugshot Monday events. So
you could get him on your show in celebration of
Mugshot Monday. I could do that, Yeah, I could. I'm
just throwing it out there.
Speaker 3: I will, I will take it, no pressure, I'm taking
under advisement.
Speaker 1: Thank you for your attention to this matter. Yeah, so
this is uh. I think this is actually a very
good idea very savvy campaign move by the Wattley campaign.
Ya Wattley running for US Senate Republican primary and the
Wattley war Room say that five times fast. That's hard
to do. Wattley war Room, Wattley war war Room, you
got to think about it. Well done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chield trip up.
Speaker 1: Yes, you'll end up sounding like Elmer Fudd. But Wattley
war Room, their Twitter account formerly known as x doing
the Mugshot Monday a digital series campaign.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: They first shared it not with us for some reason, right,
but with the Daily Caller News Foundation.
Speaker 3: Well, in the DCNF.
Speaker 1: They're pretty good. I like them. I'm with you, and
it's going to highlight the repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat offenders
who get released from detention and then go on to
commit new crimes in North Carolina. Yes, and this is
obviously a slam on Roy Cooper, my good friend Ray,
Ray Cooper. Yeah, huh with a revolving door. And people
sometimes ask Pete his name isn't Ray, why do you
call him Ray? Explain so well to his good friends,
he is Ray Cooper. That's what I've been told by
Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 3: That's what she How did you get close enough with
Hillary Clinton to find out that.
Speaker 1: She was on TV at a Roy Cooper campaign event?
This would have been way back in what twenty sixteen,
I guess it was when he ran against Pat McCrory
and she introduced him at one of her rallies. Cooper,
my good friend, Ray Cooper. It's fantastic. I mean, it's
really fantastic. So I just assume that that's what he
goes by with his good friends.
Speaker 3: Well, you have to you have to respect your elders.
Speaker 1: True, I mean, that's it'd straight up. God, it's in
a commandment, I think, I really it sure is right,
absolutely right?
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So the mugshot Monday and the first one he already
had a mug shot Monday this week, and the first
one mentioned highlighted was Sanchez Nicholson. Oh, by the way,
they've ideed the the purp in yesterday's thing that apparently
impacted you. You couldn't leave, you know, I got right out.
I hit the seam perfectly. Actually, you just showed them
like I'm Brett Winterable, don't you know who I am?
And they're like, let this guy through. No, I went down.
I went down. I went and then I went all the.
Speaker 3: Way down to uh to Donald Ross Road, nice, and
then cut straight down onto the seventies.
Speaker 1: There you go south surprised to learn that the guy
from yesterday, yeah has a rap sheet?
Speaker 3: Does he really?
Speaker 1: Not?
Speaker 3: A first time or not a.
Speaker 1: First time, which would be pretty impressive if you take
like a murder and attempted murder, a kidnapping, a home invasion,
a carjacking, and then firing at police officers fleeing the
scene car accident well as a first defense, like your
very first interaction with law enforcement.
Speaker 3: Look, let's and let's salute law enforcement for having the
diligency of a square round right, just like you didn't.
Nobody else got hurt, nobody, I mean, forget about it.
It was that was really that was really a horrible thing.
Speaker 1: And bonus, I don't have to pay Yeah, absolutely, the
bonus here we don't have to pay to try this
guy who.
Speaker 3: Would have just been released on his own recognaissance with
no bail.
Speaker 1: But maybe an ankle monitor.
Speaker 3: Doubtful without that doesn't work, Yeah, it's just gonna be
like a fake one.
Speaker 1: All right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you
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