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protesting that occurred mostly peaceful. I mean, yes, there had
to be some pepper spray deployed, and yes there were
some violent outbreaks, but it was mostly peaceful. You know,
think about all of the piece that wasn't violent, right,
just always got to look at the silver lining on
this stuff. So yeah, we had, you know, some some
violence in Seattle, had a shooter in Utah. Los Angeles
also so violent Charlotte. They got pepper sprayed in Charlotte too.
So you got the no Kings thing going on, you know,
with all of the imagery like the pinnatas. I think
that's how you say that pinata of Donald Trump and
you know, having kids with bats just go to town
beaten the pinata. Yeah, that's totally healthy behavior to be
instilling in your child, right to be attacking effigies and such.
Oh that we also had here. This was Eric Swallwell.
He apparently spoke at one of these things.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is America's hitler.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it sounds well attended. Yeah, is America's hitler.
That's yeah, Donald Trump is America's hitler. Yeah. So this
is the the cool rhetoric, right, not at all hot,
not fiery. No such thing as stochastic terrorism, except, of course,
when a deranged man murders two people and attempts to
murder two others up in Minnesota. This maniac. I don't
even like giving these people's names, so I'm not going
to call him Maya his name. I'm just going to
call him the maniac. This guy, he's making a court
appearance I think today at some point. He shot two
Minnesota lawmakers and their spouses in what CBS News says
is politically motivated shootings. Early Saturday morning. He was finally caught.
There was this man hunt over the weekend. They caught him.
The fifty seven year old maniac was taken into custody
after being located in the woods near his home in
green Isle, Sibley County, on Sunday night, shortly before ten pm,
the Ramsey County Sheriff's office posted a picture on social
media of him being taken into custody, and the Sheriff's
office said, quote the face of evil. So he targeted
Minnesota Representative Melissa Hortman, a Democrat, and her husband Mark,
who was a Raleigh native, went to NC State for
a couple of years and then graduated from UNC. They
were shot and killed in their Brooklyn Park home. And
then there was State Senator John Hoffman, also a Democrat,
and his wife Yvette. They were then shot in their
home in Champlain. Actually, I think I have that reverse.
I think they were attacked first. Tim Walls told a governor.
Tim Walls told a news conference Sunday night that John
Hoffman is out of the final surgery, is moving towards recovery,
as is Ivette Hoffman. So they both survived, which is
pretty amazing, because I think I have it here. She
told a friend of hers, who then posted it on
social media, that she had been hit like seven times.
Seven rounds hit her and her husband was hit eight
times and they both survived, according to the criminal complaint.
This is according to the Star Tribune. The first nine
one one call was made by one of the children
of John and Ivette Hoffman after they were shot multiple times.
Champlain police responded to the Hoffman residence at two h
five am after receiving the nine to one one call,
so they were the first targets. Surveillance footage from the
home showed a dark Ford SUV with police lights in
the driveway. It showed the maniac approached the door in
a mask, wearing a blue shirt, police vest and badge.
He was holding a gun as he approached the door.
After he shot John and Ivette Hoffman, he fled in
the suv. After Brooklyn Park Police learned the shooting victim
in Champlain the Hoffman's and he was a state legislator,
officers then proactively went to the Hortman residence. They arrived
there at three point thirty five a m. And they
see the Ford Suv in the driveway. An officer watches
as the maniac shot Mark Hortman through the front door.
After an exchange of gunfire, the maniac retreats through the
house and somehow escapes. Officers find Melissa and Mark Hortman,
both dead inside the home. When police searched the maniac's vehicle,
they found three AK forty seven rifles, a nine milimeter handgun,
and a list of aims and addresses of public officials.
Further searches in the area located a ballistic vest, a
disassembled nine millimeter firearm. I don't know why you would
disassemble that, Like, he's obviously running and he's like ditching
the vest. He's like trying to change his appearance. He
I don't know why you disassemble the firearm. Maybe so
nobody else will use it for bad purposes or something.
I don't want a kid to find it. I don't know.
They found the mask and the gold police badge. Four
of the firearms recovered by police were purchased by the shooter.
A person who was familiar with the maniac also spoke
with investigators and positively identified him as the man on
the surveillance footage from the Hoffman's home in Champlain. US
Senator Yeah US Senator Amy Klobaschar shared a message early
Sunday evening from Ivette Hoffman that disclosed that John Hoffman
took nine bullet hits. I took eight. There is never
a place for this kind of political hate. Thank you
for your friendship. Always, Minnesota's are at their very best
when we stand together. They do not have the death
penalty in Minnesota. But for this guy, yeah, I think
for this guy, you could make an exception. Maybe charge
him under some federal law, you know, maybe go after
him at the federal level. The BCA superintendent, I forget
what that what that title is. It's someplace here and
to do bc A. Well, he's the BCA superintendent. His
name is Drew Evans, and I think they do like
the searches and stuff up in Minnesota. Here it is
Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. Okay, so he's in charge
of the BCA, Drew Evans. He was asked at a
news conference of authorities believe the shooter was getting any
kind of of assistance, and he said the suspect had
been in contact with other people, but could not say
if they were actively providing him assistance. Asked why the
BCA detained the shooter's wife and other relatives outside a
convenience store, Evan said they did so to one to
try to understand what's going on that will help us
complete the investigation. The shooter's wife and relatives cooperated with
authorities in providing information, and they were released from custody,
so it does not appear that he had anybody helping him,
you know, stay on the run over the week. So
this happens on Saturday, early Saturday morning, so I'm seeing
you know, the news reports and you know, the coverage
throughout Saturday, and then you know Sunday as well. They
caught him Sunday night last night, so the whole weekend,
you know, once again, public service announcement in the wake
of any kind of this, any kind of a shooting
like this, just wait for more information to develop, okay,
because people raced to their social media accounts to try to,
you know, pin this on a political party or you know,
Donald Trump, or no, he's a he's a Trump hater, no,
he's a Trump lover, whatever, and and you don't you
don't know the answers to these questions in the immediate
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the cycle of stochastic terrorism the news cycle. You're going
to start hearing stochastic terrorism again. That's my prediction because
of the maniac up in Minnesota that assassinated the former
Speaker of the House in the state legislature and her
husband and then also try to murder another sitting state lawmaker,
both Democrats, and so now the left, can you use
this to say that the language of Republicans and Donald
Trump specifically, that has inspired this murderer to do this
murder and therefore everybody needs to stop talking about whatever
it is that you're talking about. You're responsible, they're not responsible. Like,
for example, when you say Donald Trump is America's Hitler,
like Eric Swalwell did at that No King's Rally, When
you do that, that's that's not stochastic terrorism. Calling somebody hitler,
that's not You're not inspiring people to be afraid, right,
I mean you're saying somebody is hitler, and we all
know how that worked out. So I think it's pretty
clear what they are doing. I think it's pretty clear
the anger and animus that they are fomenting. And if
you want to blame Donald Trump for the guy shooting
the state lawmakers in Minnesota, then for consistency sake, you
have to then also attribute all of the violence on
the left, and We've been documenting it for years. I've
been pointing this out that the left has this violence fetish.
You guys, aren't You aren't addressing it, And into the
space enters Thomas Mills. Thomas Mills was a Democrat consultant guy.
I've interviewed him. Heck, I have it. I had him
fill in one time for me on my radio show
in Ashville. It did not go well for him, but
he you know, he did it. The callers just dragged
him for three straight hours. But he has been the
purveyor of a website called Politics and c and he
makes the argument today that well, the headline says, both
sides are not the same. All the violence is it's
all on the right, and you guys are the big problem,
and we don't have this problem on the left. That's
what he's making this argument. And on the rare occasions
when it happens, we condemn it. We automatically come right
down and condemn it. Right, I've not seen anybody celebrating
these murders. I've seen nothing like that from the right.
I saw rushing in to say this guy was a
Governor Wall's appointment, so he's probably a Democrat, and that
was not true. He was an appointment, but it didn't
mean anything. People try to make sense of these irrational
evil acts and they project into these stories their own biases,
and Thomas is doing that here. I'll give you some
of the highlights. But there's also another story, and it
came out of Wake County one of their marches, the
No Kings thing. There's a state representative named Julie von Haathen,
Democrat from Wait County, and she made a video of
the various signs that were at the march, and one
of the signs that she highlighted, a woman is holding
this banner and it says, in these difficult times, more
cuts may be necessary. And then there's a guillotine and
detached off the sides of the banner are heads, one
Donald Trump and one not really sure. I think it
may be Stephen Miller. It could also be Elon Musk.
Not sure because there's a and there's a swastika drawn
on the forehead of the other head. And this is
what the Way Democrat thought was hilarious, took a picture
of and posted it. Outrage ensued, she deleted her accounts.
I think John actually has some thoughts on this, Hey, John,
welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: I was actually looking at that and some other miserable,
well not really miserable humorous failures from some of the
Democrats this weekend, thek Royan Cabari's Young Democrats tried to
drag someone because they got a thousand people out of
almost eighty thousand registered Democrats and post three hundred thousand
people in Rowan and Caberras, they got a thousand still
up for their rally here. And then the millennial head
of the Democrat Party decides she was gonna wear a
black tennis for the protest.
Speaker 3: What okay?
Speaker 2: So no, but yeah, and then Julie decides to show
us just how moderate and senris she is.
Speaker 4: By uh.
Speaker 2: Coming out, a coming out and the revolution for her
idea of changing politics.
Speaker 1: Right in these difficult times, more cuts may be necessary.
So yeah, we're gonna have to start. We're gonna to
start murdering people's that's the banner, That's what she was
marching under, and that's what Julie von haythen tweeted out
and then got such blowback that she deleted her account.
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insufferable to be lectured by people that find every excuse
for political violence for their team committed by their team.
They will excuse it, they will accept it, they will
defend it, they'll offer the I'm not censorshipman, done, but
and then they proceed to explain why it's kind of okay.
It's just that, you know, Trump had it coming. Trump
led to his own assassination attempt like it's his fault.
And now because of the Minnesota shooting, we're being subjected
to these lectures by these excuse making people, and it's
just it's unbearable. I'm just so fed up with it.
It all needs to be condemned, all of it. And
you don't get to, you know, bash the pinatas of
Donald Trump and show the posters of guillotines while saying,
how dare you chant hang Mike Pence? Right, that's an
inconsistent standard. I said from the very beginning on January Well,
I guess it would have been this seventh January seventh,
the day after the riots, completely unacceptable. And I still
don't know, and nobody does what that mob at the
Capitol might have done if they actually had gotten Mike Pence.
I don't know what they would have done. That's the
thing about mobs, it's the thing about riots. Right, So
I can be consistent on this. You shouldn't be doing
any of that. You don't do that. Let me go
over here and chat with Ray. Hello, Ray, Welcome to
the show.
Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, hey, I wanted to help the left and
the Democrats out. They can pretty much more effectively ensure
their political survival if they'll just adopt a new protest
attitude and instead of having a no King's protest, have
a no breaking the law protest.
Speaker 1: Hmmm. That would that would well, I don't know if
they broke many laws Saturday. Some some did. But you're
you're ignoring all of the peaceful protesters, right, just because
a couple of hundred here there around the country, you know,
got into you know, some violence.
Speaker 3: It was fire.
Speaker 4: The peaceful protest did slip my mind?
Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, yeah, yeah, that's all right, It's okay. It's
a no. I appreciate its something that's a good piece
of advice. Just don't break any laws protesting. That's a
good idea. This is I mentioned Thomas Mills. And by
the way, let me just do a refresh real fast
on this w R a L website. And no, they
still haven't covered the the Julie von Hafen story. This
is WRAL. They still haven't gave They still haven't done
a single report on Representative Julie von Haythen who published
this video. She made a video she took pictures at
the No King's protest in Raleigh and then stitched them together,
edited the pictures together into a video, and then she
put it up on her Instagram page. And one of
the pictures shows this protester holding this banner, big picture
of a guillotine. What appears to be like some I
think there may I think those are like dead bodies
at the bottom of the guillotine. I can't really make
it out. It's pretty small and it says in these
difficult times, more cuts may be necessary. And then the
banner is being like she's got a long bar that
the banner is wrapped around and she's either end of
the bar. Are these two like life size heads, one
Donald Trump and one either Elon Musk or Stephen Miller
I don't know. And the the Musk or Miller head
has a Nazi swastika drawn on its forehead and she
posts it up outrage incies, she deletes it, she deletes
her account on Twitter and h and she has apologized.
So this is now Thomas Mills at politics NC dot
com saying that the shooter up in Minnesota was radicalized
by MAGA and info Wars, according to his roommate and
self described best friend, Yeah, there's there. I don't understand
all of the like, what's going on with that part
of the story, edam In. So I don't understand that,
he says. The political violence in the country is out
of control. I agree. We are more violent than we've
been since the nineteen sixties. Only one party promotes violence, though,
and it's not the Democrats. Really, Tom, really, you guys
just coordinated a day of protest where like, on the
heels of all of the violent anti ice protesting, you
guys have been taking to the streets and engaging in
this kind of action for years, he says, So this
is what he believes is true for years Republicans have
been trying to create a false narrative about Democrats supporting
or encouraging political violence. They blamed the George Floyd riots
on the party. They tried to tie Luigi Mangione to
the party. They have blamed the anti Simmy violence of
the attack on Jews in Colorado and the murder of
a young Israeli embassy workers on leftists. Yes, yeah, correct,
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standard excuse me. The standard seems pretty consistent for their side.
They are the ultimate good. Anyone opposing is the ultimate evil.
Their go anything goes for them, right. This is the
permission structure that they have fostered. And Thomas Mills is
sort of a perfect example of the wilful blindness. This
is that's not happy way, We don't do that. Stochastic
terrorism only occurs among Republicans. They even came up with
the term to apply it to Republicans. And what's most
insulting and that Tom does not mention in his list
of examples about oh they tried to smear the Democrats.
They're creating this false narrative. None of it's true, he says.
The riots in twenty twenty were a national reaction of
years of young, unarmed black men dying at the hands
of police or vigilantes, not calls to action by Democratic leaders.
No Democrats ever encouraged Luigi Mangioni by urging violence against
health insurance executives. Do you remember after that murder? Did
you ever go and read the comments section see social
media posts? The left celebrated it. That's the permission structure.
I've got audio from Senator Chris Murphy who now is
saying that this is all Trump's fault, the murder up
in Minnesota, this is all US fault, Trump's fault. But
after Mangione murdered the healthcare CEO, he had a different tone,
a bit of a different tone. He says. Republicans are
urged by their leader to see Democrats as enemies and evil.
Do you remember Joe Biden's red speech that he gave
in Philadelphia? Remember that I do? Or how about this
June fourteenth, we just had the eight year anniversary of
the Congressional baseball shooting. June fourteenth, twenty seventeen, James Hodgkinson,
a Bernie bro sixty six year old guy, shot four people,
including then US House Majority whip Steve Scalise, try to
assassinate a very large number of Republican lawmakers on a
softball field. That was June fourteenth. Tom doesn't mention that.
Tom doesn't mention Donald Trump being nearly assassinated twice, doesn't
mention any of those see, because that doesn't fit with
this narrative that he's pushing. That narrative being it's only
coming from one side. That's literally his argument the headline,
both sides are not the same. Political violence is coming
to a head in the country, says, but on only
one side is it directed at power? Again, like the
gaslighting here is amazing. You had Trump survived two assassination attempts,
and where to believe that the left is not taking
its shot at power? Really, the violence from riots and
protests is reactionary, sporadic, and mostly random. Oh that makes
it okay? Then sure? You got leftists out in the street,
pelting ice agents with bricks, setting buildings on fire. Yeah,
it's mostly random. It's not spurred by calls for action
from a major political party. The hell it isn't. You
got Democrat lawmakers getting arrested while trying to block ICE operations.
You're telling me that's not a permission structure. All the
violence on college campuses run by and perpetuated by people
on the left, these weren't conservatives. This wasn't MAGA setting
up their tentifata. The perpetrators of violence from the left
are routinely and vociferously condemned by Democrat leaders and the
Democrat right that Julie von Haefen has had zero mensions.
I've seen nothing from Democrats in this state, state party chair,
any of her colleagues. Nobody is saying anything. WRAL isn't
even covering the story. There was nothing in the news.
And observer tell me that it's raining while I see
you whizzing on my boots. Let me get Bob on
real quick here. Hey Bob, Hey.
Speaker 3: Pete, what a great show man.
Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks.
Speaker 3: I'm you know, uh, I just kept saying that breaking
the law is is is is the wrong part, right,
I mean, that's what's wrong is when somebody breaks the law.
You know, if I if I don't lock my doors
and something gets stolen. It's not my fault, it's you're
not supposed to steal, right and and and I just
I just know that, you know, the left tends to
protect that idea that it's somebody else's fault, that it's
somebody it's not it's it's not it's my fault for unlocked,
for for keeping my door with unlocked. And you know,
a matter of fact, I believe the Charlotte Police Department
have a law where if I don't lock my doors,
I can get a ticket.
Speaker 1: Well, you can get in a lot of trouble if
you get a gun stole out of your car that
was unlocked. Yeah, so, Bob, I gotta run, I gotta run.
I gotta run up against the news. I appreciate the call.
It's a great point. All right. That'll do it for
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