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<v Speaker 1>Deadline has this to say about the weather forecast today.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be mostly cloudy made us an afternoon, scattered storms

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<v Speaker 1>showing up high seventy seven as storms. They say, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>leave the area around six pm tonight, partly CLOUDI in

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<v Speaker 1>slight risk of some storms, and on Friday, chance of

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<v Speaker 1>rain remains. I have eighty five right now, sixty one

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<v Speaker 2>From the UC of Traffic Central.

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<v Speaker 3>You see health hands expert traumacare focusing on prevention, treating injuries,

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<v Speaker 3>and supporting long term recovery and rehabilitation Marnmur. You see

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<v Speaker 3>how dot Com highways continue to build. Stop pound seventy five,

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<v Speaker 3>add an extra five in and out of Blackham, getting

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<v Speaker 3>close to that. Northbound seventy five between Buttermilk and Kyles.

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<v Speaker 3>of Milford to Loveland shock ing Ver month fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>Seven thirty here fifty five KRCD talk station. Happy Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Always look forward to talking to Donovan and Neil from

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<v Speaker 1>Americans for Prosperity. Donovan, Welcome back to the fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>KRC Morning Show. It's good to have you on as always, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>always a pleasure to be with you midweek. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>struggle with this one a little, just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>My libertarian philosophy and principles agrees with you wholeheartedly on

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<v Speaker 1>your support for House Bill one oh nine and Center

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<v Speaker 1>Bill one o four, which you'll explain to my listeners

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<v Speaker 1>here momentarily. But you know, I live in a neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>and I would be really unhappy if one of my

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<v Speaker 1>neighbors started renting out their home on a regular basis

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<v Speaker 1>to as an airbnb, the guests coming in and out

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<v Speaker 1>and flowing in and out. I know some neighborhoods have

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<v Speaker 1>had problems. The guests quite often can be disrespectful. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they're on vacation, they're in a party atmosphere, so on

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<v Speaker 1>a Tuesday night at midnight, they're out in the backyard

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<v Speaker 1>drinking beer with music going on, that kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>And some neighborhoods say, you know, no, that's not what

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<v Speaker 1>we are looking for in our neighborhood. So you got

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<v Speaker 1>your neighborhood collectives sitting down and creating rules. Mean you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a homeowners association, and so they try to ban

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<v Speaker 1>these things from happening. But that limits the freedom of

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<v Speaker 1>a property owner to see to do what with their

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<v Speaker 1>property what they see fit. So I'm kind of struggling

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<v Speaker 1>with the balance of these things. What specifically does house

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<v Speaker 1>built one O nine and center built on one of

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<v Speaker 1>four propose for the entire state of Ohio in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of this this this short term rental market, Donovan.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And the concerns you shared to Brian

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<v Speaker 4>are what a lot of folks, legislators, folks around Caps

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<v Speaker 4>Square here frequently get it. What this legislation would do though,

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<v Speaker 4>is well, we'll back up one thing the state does

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<v Speaker 4>well when we talk about regulations and red takes. I've

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<v Speaker 4>been on your show and we talk about that a lot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we talk about regulations. One thing the state of Ohio

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<v Speaker 4>where states in general can do well and where their

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<v Speaker 4>proper role in serving regulations exist is creating a clear,

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<v Speaker 4>sise framework for how an industry can operate. And so

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<v Speaker 4>when we look at the short term rental industry. One

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<v Speaker 4>of the things that the state has failed to do

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<v Speaker 4>in recent years is airbnbs or verbos have emerged, is

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<v Speaker 4>create a clear framework that these can exist within. And

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<v Speaker 4>so what you've ended up with is where we are today,

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<v Speaker 4>where you have a patchwork quilt of different rules and

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<v Speaker 4>regulations depending on the city, community or locality, with different seas,

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<v Speaker 4>different zoning requirements. And so when an individual wants to

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<v Speaker 4>exert their very simple constitutional right of using their property

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<v Speaker 4>as they wish, in this case renting it out through

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<v Speaker 4>a platform like Airbnb, this legislation would make it clear

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<v Speaker 4>that in the state of Ohio you can do that,

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<v Speaker 4>and here are the handful of rules and requirements that

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<v Speaker 4>have to be put into place in order to do that,

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<v Speaker 4>while protecting individual property owners from local governments subdivisions that

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<v Speaker 4>might say, hey, we're going to create an exorbitant fee.

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<v Speaker 4>We may not be able to ban it out right

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<v Speaker 4>going and create an exorbitant fee sentem one oh nine.

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<v Speaker 4>This legislation from Sander Brenner would keep local political subdivisions

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<v Speaker 4>from being able to do that. When it comes to

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<v Speaker 4>the concerns around new sense or noise right. But what

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<v Speaker 4>we point to is those laws already exist on the

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<v Speaker 4>books and creating new exorbitant fees or red tape or

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<v Speaker 4>more regulations or o outright telling an individual what they

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<v Speaker 4>can and can't do with their own property. We think

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<v Speaker 4>folks need to enforce those existing laws that already are

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<v Speaker 4>on the books to address when those situations arise.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I guess someone's out there making the argument. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like we always we favor local government

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<v Speaker 1>because one size doesn't fit all. I hate to being

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<v Speaker 1>told what to do by people in DC who have

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<v Speaker 1>no connection with my local community. City Council's City of

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati impose the Connected Communities these zoning rules on all

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<v Speaker 1>of the neighborhoods in the City of Cincinnati in spite

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<v Speaker 1>of the fact that some of those neighborhoods didn't want it.

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<v Speaker 2>Some did.

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<v Speaker 1>They imposed their will on Hyde Park in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>zoning by allowing a variance from the Connected Communities program,

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<v Speaker 1>in spite of the fact that the will of the

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<v Speaker 1>citizen there was to say no to that. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>local control is I think favored by most people, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that your township is different from the other township.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't like it, maybe vote those town those

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<v Speaker 1>trustees out of office and put it in a new

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<v Speaker 1>batch of trustees, or if your neighborhood homeowners association, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>reflects the will of the neighborhood, at least it's supposed to,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the neighborhood wants. So I struggle with that

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, conceptually, what is the extent or to

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<v Speaker 1>what degree does house built one to nine centeble want

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<v Speaker 1>to four control that kind of thing. So let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, you know, the specifics of it, the general

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<v Speaker 1>terms and conditions that are going to be in place

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>These passed.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll bring Donovan O'Neil for Americans for Prosperity back to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that. After I mentioned the Chimney Care fireplace

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<v Speaker 1>to stow, you got a would burning fireplace take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of the spring special going on right now for only

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixty nine dollars and ninety nine cents

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<v Speaker 1>plus tax. Of course, the Chimney Care Fireplace is still

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<v Speaker 1>will come out thoroughly inspector your chimney to do a

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<v Speaker 1>sweep it. Everything will be safe and ready for you

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<v Speaker 1>to hit the ground running when the cold temperatures come back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great thing to do. You don't want a

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<v Speaker 1>chimney fire, and that's what happens when you had a

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<v Speaker 1>kreosop build up from the wood burners. Uh So, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a stove or a fireplace that's woodburning, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great time to get it taken care of when

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<v Speaker 1>you're not using it. Of course, everyone can benefit from

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<v Speaker 1>a free exterior evaluation. Got a chimney, have it evaluated.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll come out to your place for free and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you don't have any water damage issues going on

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<v Speaker 1>which you could be experiencing right now and not even

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<v Speaker 1>know about it. Of course that comes included with woodburning

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<v Speaker 1>sweep and evaluation, but for non wood burners you still

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty five KRC Channel Night says this about the weather.

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<v Speaker 1>Pattiskys today for the most part Scattered storms are possible

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<v Speaker 2>They'll be out of the area by six pm.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Channel nine, seventy seven is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>Friday still a chance rain. I have eighty five sixty

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<v Speaker 1>one right now. Traffic time from the UCL Tramphic Center.

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<v Speaker 1>You See Health Hands Expert traumacare focusing on prevention, treating injuries,

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<v Speaker 3>seventy five break lights out of Burrow Linger into the

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<v Speaker 3>Cut and slow out of Saint Bernard to an accident

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<v Speaker 1>Head seven thirty nine, fifty five KRCD Talk Station, Happy

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday to you, Part Thomas with Americans for Prosperities, don

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<v Speaker 1>On and Neo going through the uh oh, the pros

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<v Speaker 1>and cons of that. Pardon me, Donovan and my listening audience.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll spill one nine cent one four designed to limit

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<v Speaker 1>the ability well to free up more like the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to provide you with the opportunity of short term rental

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<v Speaker 1>Airbnb kind of concept now, and I get your argument.

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<v Speaker 1>So moving aside in a way from the whys and

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<v Speaker 1>the wherefores whether local is better than a whole one

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<v Speaker 1>size fits all approach for the state of Ohio. To

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<v Speaker 1>what extent do these bills control short term rentals? What,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the specifics on it? And how much flexibility

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<v Speaker 1>do they continue to allow for local communities to control

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<v Speaker 1>some aspect of short term rentals.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what it would do is it would prohit what

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<v Speaker 4>would preempt local governments from outright prohibiting short term rentals.

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<v Speaker 5>So folks would be able.

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<v Speaker 4>To here in the state of Ohio go on a

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<v Speaker 4>platform like Airbnb or Verbo and list their property or

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<v Speaker 4>a room within their property for guests who want to

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<v Speaker 4>visit and have that local experience. It would it would

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<v Speaker 4>preempt folks. One of the ways local governments have done

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<v Speaker 4>this in other states have created.

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<v Speaker 5>A lottery system.

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<v Speaker 4>So it says only a certain number of people each

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<v Speaker 4>year can list their property. It would say, no, you can't.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't come up with a creative lottery mechanism to

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<v Speaker 4>prohibit these, You can't use zoning laws. You can't restrict

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<v Speaker 4>the number of units. One of the things we find,

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<v Speaker 4>and you look at some of the testimony, dozens of

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<v Speaker 4>pieces of testimony, there are a few folks in there

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<v Speaker 4>who talk about how they've taken a few different dilapidated properties,

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<v Speaker 4>they've invested in them and built their own small local

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<v Speaker 4>business right providing short term rentals in communities around Ohio.

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<v Speaker 4>And so say you can't, you can't limit the amount

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<v Speaker 4>of you know, operties that.

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<v Speaker 5>Someone can have in that way.

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<v Speaker 4>And it also will cap the licensing fee to catch

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<v Speaker 4>and what I think makes sense for local and state

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<v Speaker 4>government here is one of the problems that exists is

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<v Speaker 4>it's not clear who's responsible for collecting the taxes on

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<v Speaker 4>these right and so what it would require is that

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<v Speaker 4>if they're going to the state, sort of the bargain

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<v Speaker 4>here I think, if you will, is that the state's

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<v Speaker 4>going to create this clear regulatory framework that these short

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<v Speaker 4>term rentals can exist. The responsibility is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>on the platform to make sure they collect the taxes

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<v Speaker 4>that the state has for lodging, right.

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<v Speaker 5>And so what this will do is it.

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<v Speaker 4>Will help while creating a clear and concise framework. It

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<v Speaker 4>will also help generate revenue where right now, because of

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<v Speaker 4>the patchwork nature of this industry in the state of Ohio,

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<v Speaker 4>it's unclear who's responsible and oftentimes those tax revenues go uncollected.

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<v Speaker 5>So this will help.

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<v Speaker 4>Not creating new taxes, is right, Brian, but just saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>the airbnb and burbos of the world have to collect

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<v Speaker 4>those taxes when they book these properties on behalf of

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<v Speaker 4>the hosts, okay, And so it helps generate tax revenue

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<v Speaker 4>while also creating a standard across the state of Ohio

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<v Speaker 4>for this industry to exist.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So it would be an analogous to Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>collecting whatever local tax applies when you make a purchase.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a great way to look at it, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, I can understand that because the taxes are there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a law that you have to pay them. Quite

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<v Speaker 1>often people don't do it, you know, But isn't it

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<v Speaker 1>also it's income to the home owner when they get

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<v Speaker 1>rental from an airbnb, so that is also income tax

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<v Speaker 1>that they would have to report, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>And that I think we continue to remain on the

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<v Speaker 1>So are there any restrictions that would be allowed here?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it sounds to me like it would be

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<v Speaker 1>unlimited in nature here. So anybody who owns property could

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<v Speaker 1>go to Airbnb and put their house on there and rented, period,

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<v Speaker 1>end of story.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and that's the idea, right, This is something that

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<v Speaker 4>exists long before even the finding of our country, right, Brian, is, folks,

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<v Speaker 4>before you had the Marriott's and the holiday Ends and

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<v Speaker 4>the Hyatts of the world, people would create INDs, right,

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<v Speaker 4>or they would provide portions of their.

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<v Speaker 5>Housing to travelers.

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<v Speaker 4>And what we're finding, right is, rather than having you know,

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<v Speaker 4>folks just listing on a Craigslist or somebody knowing somebody

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<v Speaker 4>like you would in the olden days, you have a

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<v Speaker 4>safe platform like Airbnb where folks can go and there

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<v Speaker 4>are rules.

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<v Speaker 5>To be a host and to be a renter on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Platform, right, And then individuals know that when they're doing

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<v Speaker 4>that transaction, they're protected and part of that airbn be network.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I think where our opponents come down on

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<v Speaker 4>this in a lot of ways is they just don't

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<v Speaker 4>like what people do in their own backyard.

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<v Speaker 5>Right It's a an enbiasm argument. But at the end

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<v Speaker 4>Day, you know, if you're invested in a property and

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<v Speaker 4>you're you've taken it from being a dilapidated property in

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<v Speaker 4>a very nice you know what used to be a

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<v Speaker 4>really nice part of town, and you're trying to bring that,

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<v Speaker 4>make it up and coming. That's where these airbnbs often occur.

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<v Speaker 4>They invest in their how this property, and they want

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<v Speaker 4>to use that property to get some return on that

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I hear all that, and I understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's like when you buy any given neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>if you buy in any given neighborhood, you are subject

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<v Speaker 1>to zoning restrictions, and there may be restrictions on the

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<v Speaker 1>type of architecturals style you can have, like in the

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<v Speaker 1>City of Cincinnati, apparently from going forward basis. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I wonder where the line is, where's that?

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<v Speaker 1>Where is that that where we approve of these type

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<v Speaker 1>of restrictions whatever they may be in some areas, but

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm not sure that's a good question on the

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<v Speaker 4>homeowners Association. I'll have to check with Senator Brenner on

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<v Speaker 4>that and get back to you around that if you

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<v Speaker 4>want to follow up there, because I think so, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not sure how it deals with some of those I know,

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<v Speaker 4>the largest concern that comes from folks, right is noise,

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<v Speaker 4>safety and nuisance concerns those right, It.

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<v Speaker 5>Does not preempt those, right.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you've got someone out there at midnight blast

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<v Speaker 4>in music or jumping off of the second floor like

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<v Speaker 4>it's a National Lampoon's movie, right, we're not that that's

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<v Speaker 4>still illegal. That's still something that you know, right, the

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<v Speaker 4>local municipality can can oversee you.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But I think part of the neighborhood usually don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that going on. Your neighborhood becau if you're living there,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not likely to engage in that kind of activity

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<v Speaker 1>because you're in the pissing off your neighbors and you

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<v Speaker 1>make a bad neighbor and then you're that guy. So

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of relationship effect, and I know someone out

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<v Speaker 1>there is going, yeah, well you should hear my neighbor.

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<v Speaker 1>We deal with them all the time, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's always people like that, and you can call the

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<v Speaker 1>cops on them, but there's a certain element of that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the neighborhood feel, the fact that you're always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be living next to that person, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>not likely to engage in that kind of activity. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not the case with renters. They don't care who lives

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<v Speaker 1>next door. I'm here, I'm paying for it, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to do whatever the hell I want. So it just

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<v Speaker 1>increases the likelihood that that that that happening.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, sure, well, I think that's I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's a risk that comes with this, But I think

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<v Speaker 4>the larger argument of defending defending somebody's ability to have

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<v Speaker 4>their property and do what they wish with their property

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<v Speaker 4>outweighs that potential.

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<v Speaker 5>Albeit I'm sure everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Has a story where they could point to Yeah. At

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the day, though, we have the right

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<v Speaker 4>to life, liberty and property. Right. Yeah, life, liberty, and

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<v Speaker 4>pursuit of happiness. And that's what this legislation does, is

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<v Speaker 4>it descends that right for you or I are one

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<v Speaker 4>of our neighbors to rent our property out and do

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<v Speaker 4>so in a safe, regulated environment where we can have

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<v Speaker 4>the confidence of being able to do that and not

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<v Speaker 4>being preempted by a local city council member who just

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't like this industry fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>It just it raises some interesting, you know, worthy of

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<v Speaker 1>exchange topics. Normally you and I are on exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>same page. I'm just throwing out these, uh this sort

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<v Speaker 1>of against my natural inclination to be completely on board

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Just the practical realities of having a neighbor

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<v Speaker 1>that is constantly renting their house out to strangers every

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<v Speaker 1>single day, and I know that poses some some challenges

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<v Speaker 1>for folks along my my lines, which really do believe

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<v Speaker 1>what I believe to do, what I'm entitled to do.

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<v Speaker 2>House Bill one cent up Bill one oh four.

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<v Speaker 1>You can feel free to get in touch with your

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<v Speaker 1>elected official to get it out of committee and get

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<v Speaker 1>it up for a vote. Is there a website you

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<v Speaker 1>want to refer our listeners to Donovan? There always is.

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<v Speaker 1>People can get engaged by going to Buckeye Blueprint dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>There you are Fuckey Blueprint dot Com. Donovan love the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation as always, keep up the great work at American

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