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Speaker 6: Ben?

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: Great to have you. I'm just kind of I'm just

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gonna adjust your mic there.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: So let's start off with this real quick.

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Speaker 5: We were discussing earlier in the show who the best

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offense coordinator is in BYU football history. I've been putting

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it out to like coaches, former coaches, former players, media members, uh,

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individuals that are just huge BYU fans as well, try

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to get and there hasn't been a general consensus yet.

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I get a lot of people that say, like Doug Skolville,

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Norm Chow, you know, those kind of are probably the

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two lead dogs right now in the fight. But I

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don't know if there's a general consensus.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I I we were kind of chatting a little

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bit before. I think Norm Chow is who I look

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at until I grew up with as well. I think

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I think that a lot of us kind of are

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are going to be a little more prone to to

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who we grew up watching and and you know Kolani

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and a Rod both played for Norm. You know, I

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one of the things that I was mentioning that I

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felt like that that Norm Chow brought to the table

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that was really intriguing is that he was able to

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build an offense based on personnel.

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Speaker 2: And when I say that.

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Speaker 4: I mean we you could have three five ft ten

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and seventy five pound wide receivers that round the four six,

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four seven forty but good routes, and he could build

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an offense that could be successful around the strengths of

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the guys that he had.

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Speaker 2: And I saw him do it with Ronnie Jenkins.

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Speaker 4: You know, he was able to use Ronnie and his

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strengths where he may not have done that before. You know,

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I don't think we ever had the best athletes. I

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think we had really good coaching and I think that's

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what Norm chowd did a really good job at and

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in fact, talking more than RM chow went when after

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he left BYU at deen See State and then to

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USC so I had, you know, having played for coach

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Chow and and uh in the summer was when I

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was back in California, I would throw with Carson Palmer.

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Speaker 2: So Carson was going to be a senior at Santa Margarita.

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Speaker 4: High School, and uh so we'd get to go and

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throw and and that dude was throwing fifty sixty yard

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bombs on a line. And when I said that means

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that means I had to jump, stretch my hands out

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and pull the ball out of the air and pull

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it down.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't even believe it. Dude, I was. I would

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go up to my coaches and said, how do I

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play for this guy? You know? Yeah, I want to

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catch his balls.

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Speaker 4: So when he went, when Chow was heading to SC

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and Carson Palmer was there and the whole group that

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they had there, it was like I knew right away,

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And in fact I was I remember telling people down

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in Orange County, like Norm Chow is going to change

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USC offense simply because they had. Now he's got the

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athletes he never had at BYU. Now he's got the

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four to three, four to two forty guys, the side

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to side speed that is just unreal, and a quarterback

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that has an arm unlike anything I'd ever thrown with.

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armed like so just knowing what child could bring the

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table in the amount of athletic ability he now had

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within his grasp.

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Speaker 2: I knew they were going to be successful.

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Speaker 5: He came in with Pete Carroll. So Pete Carroll's the

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guy that hired him. The first season and O one,

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they went six and six. The next year they went

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eleven and two with a win in the Orange Bowl.

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Then they went twelve and one with a Rose Bowl

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win in two thousand and three, and they're listed is

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you know national champions that that season? And then two

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thousand and four thirteen and oh were they were thirteen

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and oh that was the national championship season as well, so.

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coach Charlis is uh I didn't feel like when he

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became a head coach. I thought that was a mistake.

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I didn't feel like he he brought to the table,

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at least for me. I mean, maybe Kevin Frederick or

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a couple of the other guys that used to hang

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out in coach Chile's office, Yeah, feel a little bit different,

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but the majority of us didn't feel like. Well, I'll

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speak for myself. I didn't feel like when he became

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a head coach. That was going to be a good

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role for him because being on the back end and

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the coordinator side of it, he was not a label

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Edwards or a Kolonie Sataki. He had a whole different

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kind of vibe. So and personabout uh, I'll give it

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to him. And I ran into a player at SC

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when when he was there, and I was like, oh man,

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how's coachwi? You know, I was real curious about how

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he goes. Oh man, we hang out in his office

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every day. It's like he's the best. I was like,

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what the hell is this.

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Speaker 2: You ask?

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Speaker 4: I mean almost any player that well other than Ken

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Frederick and Ronnie Jacobs babies. I love you guys, but man,

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you didn't really want to go hang out in coach

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Chow's office. You didn't want to get called in. You

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didn't so to hear that the whole. So I think

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as he he developed after BYU was a good.

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Speaker 3: Change for him to you let your hair down on

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two well.

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Speaker 4: And so so for me to compare, like Aron, right,

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if we're gonna continue in down that, I think they're

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they're two of the best for different reasons. A Rod's

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definitely had a more difficult schedule to face. Uh, he's

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done some things that are incredible.

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Speaker 2: As he's a quarterbacks coach too. Right, So Norm Chow

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had Robbie Bosco.

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Speaker 4: He was our quarterback coach when I was a b YU,

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So more roles maybe for Aaron. I mean, coach Chaw

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worked with us as receivers quite a bit more. But yeah,

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a Rod's developing guys. So it would be interesting to

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see what what if a Rod ever was to go

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to another job and see if he elevates, you know,

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because I felt like Coach Chow elevated each time he

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moved up until he became a head coach, and then

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it was maybe I should stay.

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Speaker 5: You almost wonder you know what would have happened in

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b YU football history had Norm become the head coach

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of b YU in his play calling prime, right, like

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if Lavelle, you know, if you would have said, hey,

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you know what I mean, like, yeah, and you're going

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to be a head coach.

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Speaker 2: No, I.

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Speaker 3: Know he was never gonna be, but like what would

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it have been like? Yeah, what it would have been like?

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Because he left? Right? He left because he wasn't going

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to be the head coach.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I couldn't.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't see him standing up in front of the

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team and given us a heartfelt like congratulatory speech or

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or or just ended up encouraging us from the bottom

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of his heart. It's that's I just couldn't.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't.

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Speaker 2: No, no, it's different. Just that.

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Speaker 4: That's why I didn't feel like he was going to

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be a great head coach when he became that, you know,

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and should have put a couchy bed on that one.

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Speaker 2: But uh, it's hard to.

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Speaker 1: Win it, sure, sure, sure, But in the end, I

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felt like his skill as a coordinator was one hundred

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percent on point and and that's why I would put

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him as my at this point, all time greatest.

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Speaker 4: With Aaron Roddick, I would put as a close second,

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but still with more to prove.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: Okay, let's transition biggest concern and what's your most optimistic

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about heading out to Orlando to face the Georgia Tech

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Speaker 2: So I've been watching some film Georgia Tech. That really good.

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Speaker 3: It's really good.

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Speaker 4: So you watch the highlights in some of the parts

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of the game against Georgia right and what I like

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to do is can get Georgia was fourth in the nation.

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We played the fifth in the nation, Texas Tech team.

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Who's more competitive? We weren't. Georgia Tech was definitely more competitive.

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It came down to a helm Mary at the very

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end of the game. They had opportunities to win that game.

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We did not have opportunities to win it. Once we

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got past that three minutes in the third quarter, it

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was gone. So much more competitive game, and so it's

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going to be a real test for our defense for

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a coach, for Jay and for the defensive staff to

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put together a game plan to stop these guys.

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Speaker 2: They're very good. But then you go back and you

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watch their game against Pitt.

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Speaker 4: And you're like, who tail the two teams and two

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games back to back, right? I mean they were down

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twenty eight zero in the first half, you know. Now

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they came back twenty twenty fourteen I believe at halftime

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and ended up losing that game. But they did not

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look so they played up to the hype for the

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Georgia game. Now it was a granted we got a

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rivalry game, you know, so I would expect the same

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thing out of us if we were against Utah in

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Speaker 2: But you know, I think that they're very good, and.

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Speaker 4: Their ranking is because of the end of the season,

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not because of how they started. The only other comparable game,

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right is Colorado, and both of us played them in

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the very beginning of the yearn I think that it

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was still a feeling out process for both teams to

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get to know their uh what what their strengths.

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Speaker 2: Were and whatnot.

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Speaker 4: And and so they beat they beat Colorado by seven, right,

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and uh but yeah, I think that we're both completely

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different teams than when we both played Colorado.

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a fun game, but it's it's

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a statement game again. You know.

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Speaker 4: Last year it was against Colorado, we had that same

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feeling like we we need to come out and and

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not just win, but really put these guys away. And

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and they did that, and that that springboarded what I

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feel like this the season. It started right after the

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end of that game. And so my expectations we do

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the same thing and.

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Speaker 2: And maybe we pull in that linebacker out of Texas jumping.

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Speaker 4: Jack Kelly's spot. Yeah, I mean, there's so there's a

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lot a lot of opportunity and and but let's let's

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see what we can do, and we we got to

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play hard and and it's not going to be it's.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna be an easy game by any means.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like Georgia Tech is all in and everybody's

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playing and so far we as far as I've heard

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Speaker 3: Is a good Georgia Tech team, Like there's no doubt

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Speaker 5: And so last it's it's akin to what you experienced

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Speaker 3: So how does that play?

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Speaker 5: I think that win, I think that win really mattered

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to Cougarnation because, b what, you had lost two games

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at the end of the season, and so if you

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lost to call out on the Alimble Bowl, then that

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b way you fans would have been a little bit disheartened,

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disillusion with the season even though you won. Even though

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But but I think that we're in a great spot.

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Speaker 5: With how how impactful is that then at the end

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of how for all these Bowl games right too, like

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the fan donor well being of the future, right like

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going into the offseason, even that even the team as

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a whole, their well being, their mindset, you know, their motivation.

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Speaker 4: I think the top twenty five Bowl games mean something.

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big game and opportunity. Ye watch the Boise State Okay,

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what were they like eight thousand fans there?

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Speaker 2: I mean it was almost embarrassed.

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Speaker 4: I felt bad for the players that they're put in

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Speaker 2: So I guess that's the end of that Bowl anyways

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this year.

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Speaker 4: But uh, I think for the teams that are the

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top twenty five games, they're competitive games. You have two

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teams that feel like they probably should have had a

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better year, even though they both had really good seasons.

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more step and and so I think it'll be fun.

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Speaker 2: It'll be a good game for BYU to to come out.

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Speaker 4: And and show, hey, we can still dominate, and I

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expect him to go out and dominate. This needs to

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be another statement going into the off season where these

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these guys can come out and work hard, uh and

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get ready for next year. But I think it's gonna

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be a great showcase for the seniors and I'm as

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happy they all get an opportunity to play one more game.

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Speaker 3: Opt outs? Do you think there's gonna be opt outs?

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Speaker 5: Where do you think? Where do you you predict opt outs?

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L J was a little bit coy with us. Wasn't

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over to the declarative about playing in the game.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, if you're not declaring for the draft,

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it's a mistake not to play, in my opinion, right

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if you're declaring for the draft, and you know that

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now without without putting everything out there, I don't think

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decisions are made right now. I think they typically are

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made in January and going into February, and you go

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into your your pro days and you really see.

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Speaker 2: How you show out and and see.

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Speaker 4: Who's had interest to you, where you think you might

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go in the mock draft, and and so sitting out

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Speaker 2: To go have a statement game right now?

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Speaker 4: Because because if you're a junior, you're not playing the

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Speaker 2: Those extracurricular deals. So this is it.

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Speaker 4: You know, you have an opportunity to go in and

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Speaker 2: That's you're planning. But if you're planning on coming back,

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Speaker 2: I'm happy. I'd rather do Tesla's toyotas all day long.

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Speaker 3: Never one last thing for it to let you go.

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Speaker 5: Caleb Etn just uh signed with the Minnesota Vikings. Vikings

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have signed tackle kayleb et In to the practice squad.

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Shout out to Cale. I think they wanted to get

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Caleb back this season, right. I think with that Juco

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deal there's last Obviously Hinkley was a part of that.

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Speaker 2: But pretty with Nkley. It's a whole team. It's a

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whole other thing. We're in the playoffs, right, We're in

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the playoffs. In the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, but but yeah, real quick, I shout out.

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Kailan Marion, I hope he has a blast out game

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this weekend.

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Speaker 2: I love Kielan.

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Speaker 4: I think he's he's really trying hard to really just

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be the be a good man and work really hard.

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Speaker 2: And Jake retts Off, I'm super excited.

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Speaker 3: For what he's doing PROD.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what a difficult situation to get put in and

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make a change, you know, And and happy for him.

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Not happy that they're in and we're not, but uh that's.

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Speaker 2: The way it's drawn up. And so they get that shot.

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Speaker 4: And I hope they have a competitive football game this weekend,

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and I hope they both win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to Kaelin Mary playing for Miami as well

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as Jake Redsloff playing for Tulane. Hopefully that they can continue,

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they can survive in advance in this college football playoff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to watch.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited for the weekend and and look forward to

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Dick Harmon at the Desert News. Dick, how are you living, buddy?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing good. How you doing, Ben?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great, man. Great to hear from you, Great

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to chat with you. Number one, Give us updates. How's

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everything going. What have you been writing? About on the

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Speaker 6: Do good. Today's my birthday, So I slipped you in

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here Ben, right. You know I been going like.

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Speaker 3: Happy day, so you're here. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: What are you gonna do for your birthday?

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Speaker 2: Tonight?

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Speaker 6: Watch the basketball game? My wise got to release society presidents.

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I mean, so I am watching the game.

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Speaker 3: Well you get the happy birthday to Dick Harmon. You're

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you're fifty nine years old.

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Speaker 6: Congratulations twenty twenty eight. Thank you. Yeah, I'm twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: You look you don't look a day older than twenty five.

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I mean, mentally i'm twenty five. My body is now

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forty three, but mentally I'm still twenty five year old Ben,

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still as immature as ever.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a good time. I mean, being alive is good,

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Speaker 3: Right, Yep, no doubt about it, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: Well, hopefully you get to do something fun maybe on

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Speaker 3: What's your favorite place to eat? Do you have a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, you'll have the golf, Like all you

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want to do is golf all day?

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birthday stuff is a week long stuff in our family,

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so we we don't the day is the day, but everything,

476
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,880
you know, because of schedules, we just we just celebrate

477
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a week. So it'll be fun.

478
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,279
Speaker 5: Love it, Dickvard, Ladies and gentlemen, Well, you're gonna be

479
00:22:02,319 --> 00:22:06,480
watching this BYU Pacific game. Name a time in which

480
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,799
football and basketball were better than they are this day

481
00:22:10,839 --> 00:22:12,839
and age. We're back to the glory days of when

482
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,799
you've probably started covering the Coons back in the eighties.

483
00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:22,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think probably the era of the Danny Ainge

484
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,440
era in football. They were winning conference championships in the

485
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,839
WHAC back then and going to bowl games and winning

486
00:22:28,839 --> 00:22:31,720
and you know, it's probably comparable with that, but those

487
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,160
teams were not both ranked in the top ten, which

488
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,920
happened this season. So no, this is a unique time

489
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,559
in BYU sports history where you can shift from being

490
00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:45,599
at number eleven, a number ten, a number twelve, as

491
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,200
high as number seven ranked football team, and then just

492
00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:51,200
jump right into a basketball season where you're considered going

493
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,480
to the top ten teams in the country, maybe maybe

494
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,880
probably one of the top seven. When things all gets

495
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,839
ironed out and you look at the comparative things, but

496
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,200
the net ranking and the other thing. So yeah, there's

497
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,200
there's no I can't remember a time like this.

498
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 5: Crazy times. You got to you gotta savor these moments.

499
00:23:09,559 --> 00:23:12,680
And uh BYU is preparing for a Pop Tarts Bowl,

500
00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:14,599
going to be taking on the number twenty two team

501
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,240
in the country. Georgia Tech got another opportunity to win

502
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:18,799
a bowl game.

503
00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 3: You mentioned it winning bowl games.

504
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 5: For BA fans, I think it matters, matters more than

505
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,000
some people think. Look, Notre Dame doesn't care about bowl games,

506
00:23:27,079 --> 00:23:28,720
not unless it's a college football playoff.

507
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 3: They'll quit.

508
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 5: But for BA fans, bowl games matter. Why use that

509
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,759
The way that BA finishes matters. I think when the

510
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,200
dust settles on this season.

511
00:23:38,599 --> 00:23:40,559
Speaker 6: I think you're right, and I think what's in messing

512
00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:42,400
about this season is BA you did make it at

513
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,759
the conference championship game and a lot of people laid

514
00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:48,079
down the coin and they went to that that game

515
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,559
and they spent the you know, thousands of dollars, and

516
00:23:50,599 --> 00:23:52,799
it's going to be really interesting to see how some

517
00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:56,160
of those same fans, if not others, you know, do

518
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,319
the same investment and go out to Orlando and support

519
00:23:58,319 --> 00:24:01,839
this football team. What we is that this generally happens

520
00:24:01,839 --> 00:24:04,559
with Boe fans. They do travel well. The people in

521
00:24:04,599 --> 00:24:06,880
the local areas that b Oe planes, they come out

522
00:24:07,559 --> 00:24:10,680
from multi state areas and they show up and there'll

523
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,599
be interesting to see how may tickets for bo yourself

524
00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:13,119
for this game.

525
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it'll be a good showing from Kugarnation

526
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:18,880
out there in Orlando.

527
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 3: Are you heading out to the game. You're gonna be flying.

528
00:24:20,839 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 5: Out and taking part in the Disney, the Mouse and

529
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,799
the Universal Studios, et cetera.

530
00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:29,519
Speaker 6: No, J Drew is gonna go cover that for us.

531
00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:33,839
He's gonna leave a little bit later than normal to

532
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,079
cover that. But Bowl trips have always been a part

533
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,559
of what I've done over my career, and I've taken

534
00:24:39,559 --> 00:24:41,400
my family with me and usually gone a couple of

535
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,559
days early and spent that. But no, I've got a

536
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,400
daughter coming in from Houston. She just underwent surgery and

537
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,039
she's coming in on Saturday, and so we planned a

538
00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:52,039
big Christmas thing and I can do my thing remotely.

539
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,200
Ever since COVID, it's been an option. So I'll do that.

540
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,599
Speaker 5: So, b Yu, I believe is below five hundre all

541
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:01,920
time in Bowl games.

542
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,039
Speaker 3: What do you make of that? Why is it that? BYU?

543
00:25:05,079 --> 00:25:08,279
Speaker 5: I mean, look, they win eight games of seasons since

544
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,960
nineteen seventy two. They're well above the five hundred bar

545
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:19,759
collectively between Lavelle and Gary Croton, Bronco Kilane. Why is

546
00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:23,079
it that we're sitting below five hundred in these Bowl games?

547
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,759
Speaker 6: I think it's two things. Back in the old days,

548
00:25:25,759 --> 00:25:28,359
when boy played in Bowl games, Lavelle had a philosophy.

549
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,559
He looked at it like it was a reward for

550
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,960
the team and not necessarily something that they had to do.

551
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,720
There was an emphasis on winning, but you know, it

552
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,359
wasn't the same thing that I think you see Kline

553
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,839
doing right now with his staff. That's one thing. The

554
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,119
other thing is I'll take you back to nineteen ninety

555
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:52,759
nineteen eighty nine. I remember Ty Depmer throwing passes to

556
00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:55,880
his receivers in the Smithfield House on the gym floor

557
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,559
in sneakers, and that's how they prepared for a bowl.

558
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,640
They didn't have any endoor practice facility. They either went

559
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,200
outside where they had to get the plows and they

560
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,640
get the grass free where they could do that, or

561
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,000
they went inside the smithfield House in that one annex

562
00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:16,559
area and practice or else. It was one of the

563
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,920
dumbest things I've ever seen for a major college football

564
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,559
program to be able to watch this team in a

565
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,480
very limited area, try to run plays and prepare. That's

566
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,440
how they prepared for bowl games back in the yearly

567
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,920
seventies or late seventies, nine, eighties and nineties. It was

568
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,720
ridiculous that a practice facility I think was made in

569
00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:39,039
the early two thousands. I think Gary Crouton was the

570
00:26:39,079 --> 00:26:44,799
first to enjoy that. But yeah, I mean it was

571
00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:48,200
a whole new era back there. Prepared for a bowl

572
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,640
game and most of your preparation had to take place

573
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,240
in the three or four days, you know, on site

574
00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:56,440
in San Diego for the Holiday Bowl, where you actually

575
00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:59,960
had warm weather, so that I think that had a

576
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:00,720
hard to do with it.

577
00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: Ben, Yeah, I.

578
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 5: Think they see your perspective on this is critical, right

579
00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:10,440
because there's a lot to take in as it relates

580
00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:14,920
to the bowl record. Eighteen twenty two and one, I

581
00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:19,519
believe is the official record, so just below five hundred,

582
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,240
and I believe this may be the I want to say,

583
00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:29,799
this is the third time BYU has gone to Orlando

584
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:34,599
in their bowl game history. They went out to Orlando,

585
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,160
Florida for the Tangerine Bowl in nineteen seventy six. I

586
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,759
don't remember that game, but they played I think they

587
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:43,519
played Oklahoma.

588
00:27:43,519 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 3: It was an Oklahoma State in the Tangerine Bowl.

589
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: It was yes, yep.

590
00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:53,319
Speaker 5: And then they played in Orlando and the Sisters Bowl Ohio.

591
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,599
Speaker 6: State, Ohio State, Ohio State.

592
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.

593
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 5: So this was their third time heading out to Orlando.

594
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,319
For you get a top twenty five fo this is good.

595
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:04,200
This is kind of a can you mentioned a few

596
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,839
things there about why by US bowlow five hundred? You

597
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,119
typically were going to get some really really good football

598
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,279
teams in these bowl games.

599
00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 6: Oh, don't know that about it. And you know you

600
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,240
play Ohio State in the bowl game that's you know,

601
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,319
I think I think it was Robbie Bosco that played

602
00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:20,440
in that game. They had somebody I'm trying to remember

603
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,200
who it was who had a pennacidies. I think it

604
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,880
may have been Roger Gurley on the running back or somebody.

605
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,640
But they had a couple of things that were really

606
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,119
weird that happened, and you know, be always very competitive

607
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,799
in that game. But going to Orlando was a big deal.

608
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,640
I mean, that is a great city. It's a great

609
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,000
area to go and play football at the practice and

610
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,279
for fans to go. And I mean we're talking about

611
00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:42,920
Disney World, We're talking about Tiger Woods golf course that

612
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,880
he has down there, and Laura is always good. It's

613
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:47,799
a great venue.

614
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: Love that.

615
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,039
Speaker 5: So what what do you make of this BYU football

616
00:28:54,079 --> 00:28:54,880
team this year?

617
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:58,279
Speaker 3: Uh, they're not elite, but they're a great team.

618
00:28:58,319 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 5: Where do you think this team is going to rank

619
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:02,559
amongst the best teams in BYU football history?

620
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,759
Speaker 6: Well, I think because of the schedule. I mean, look

621
00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:07,319
at the teams that they played as a power for

622
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:11,440
the conference team and East team, Carolina was a very

623
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,279
good team. They had a very difficult schedule. They had

624
00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:17,559
to think the thirtieth ranked to straight the schedule in

625
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:21,119
the country, and it was a hard I don't think

626
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,039
any of the best teams that b why you played

627
00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:26,839
had to schedule this difficult that was ranked so high.

628
00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:29,640
To go back to ninety six, that team with Chad

629
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,440
Lewis and the Tulami and Steve Sarkisian, they went on

630
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,279
the road to Washington and lost that game early in

631
00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:40,279
the season. Then they never lost again. So that's probably

632
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,279
one of the better teams that you could say you

633
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:44,759
could hang your hand on. But this team had eleven

634
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:46,599
wins with the schedule that they had, I think it

635
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,279
has to go down as one of the best teams

636
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:51,480
in history. And it wasn't a flashy team. It was

637
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,079
a hard hat, lunch pail, take it to the game,

638
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:59,640
work it out, grind it out. Good offensive line, a

639
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,039
decent defensive front, seven, great linebackers, some of the best

640
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:06,519
the corners that Boa has ever had. I think. As

641
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:10,920
far as man coverage, no think I think this team

642
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,440
had it all. When you have the leading rusher in

643
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,720
the Big twelve, the number six rusher in the country

644
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:19,119
on your team and you're able to get him the

645
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,640
ball and get him in positions where he's able to

646
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,599
just grind out things and wear people down. It's been

647
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,839
a different kind of a BYU team from the ones

648
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:28,880
that we remember when they were throwing the ball forty

649
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,319
forty five times. But because of Bear Bachmeyer and his development,

650
00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:35,759
I think it's been handled brilliantly by the coaching staff

651
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:37,599
and Aaron Roderick and the things that they've been able

652
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,640
to do. It's been remarkable because you know, back in

653
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:43,640
June when all the stuff went down with Rattle, if

654
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,799
you're thinking, okay, kind of thought this team would be

655
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,559
back to winning ten or eleven games, but no way now.

656
00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:52,359
But then they did it, and I think that's remarkable.

657
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,079
Speaker 5: Dick Harmon, legendary b Rider and BYU reporter here on

658
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,480
your Utah ESPN radio net work and just talking some

659
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,640
Cougar football here with him. A couple of things I

660
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,640
want to get into as well with you, Dick, is

661
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,240
is as we look at you mentioned a couple of

662
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:18,720
things that we've discussed today that reminded me of a

663
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:21,559
discussion that we had earlier in the show. The offense

664
00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:24,200
with the true freshman quarterback was tremendous. You got to

665
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,440
give a lot of credit to Barry, You got to

666
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,839
give a lot of credit to Aaron Roders. I don't

667
00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:31,079
think many fans give it. I think they're coming around.

668
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:33,119
I think they're beginning to prospect a Ron as a

669
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:36,920
play caller. They look at him coming in in twenty

670
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,519
eighteen as the passing game coordinator, taking over some I mean,

671
00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:41,960
I've been told that, and I don't know if you've

672
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,880
been told this as well, but I was told that

673
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,039
he took over primary play calling duties in twenty nineteen

674
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:50,640
versus Boise State. I don't know if you can confirm

675
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,200
or deny that. If you've heard the same, similar and

676
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,079
essentially right, that's true, right, yes, yeah, okay, so that's true.

677
00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:00,920
Twenty twenty then was his season as the primary play

678
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,319
car That was a great offensive season. Twenty twenty one

679
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,720
was a great offensive season, twenty twenty two a little

680
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,519
bit of a dip there, and then in two thousand

681
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:13,799
twenty three not a good showing, right, but the final

682
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:16,240
two games were good. Obviously, the last two seasons were

683
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:21,680
fantastic offensively, in my opinion, really good. And so we

684
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,960
were discussing who the best offensive coordinators are in BYU football,

685
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,559
His you'or the best offensive coordinator in BAU football history

686
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:28,799
is where.

687
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: Would you lean?

688
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 5: Are you the Doug Scolville guy, the one that laid

689
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,279
the architecture down for everybody else to follow.

690
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:37,039
Speaker 3: Are you a Norm Chow guy.

691
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 5: Are you a Gary Croton guy and he's a good

692
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:41,720
play card.

693
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: Are you a Robert and I guy? Are you a

694
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,319
an Aaron Rodgers guy?

695
00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:49,279
Speaker 5: Where do you think if we pulled the fans collectively,

696
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:52,359
what type of of poll would we see at the

697
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:52,680
end of it?

698
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: Who would win?

699
00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:57,759
Speaker 6: That's a good question. I mean a lot of people

700
00:32:58,279 --> 00:33:01,200
were not around when Doug Sculville and they don't understand

701
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,200
what he did and transforming at the passing game at

702
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,599
y U and back then you didn't have the influence

703
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:12,000
of NFL defensive coordinators in the game. And he completely

704
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,200
excuse me, he completely took the college scene by storm

705
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,279
and vid the way that he would run his offense

706
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,000
and lager the receivings and the targets, and college football

707
00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:27,319
was not ready for that. And so you got to

708
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:30,359
give him credit for bringing that in and the way

709
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:34,960
that he developed quarterbacks back in the day. And you

710
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,799
just named the ones that went down the line with

711
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,480
Giffer Nielsen then Jim McMahon and Mark Wilson. I mean,

712
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:43,640
this was the heyday of VAU quarterbacks been. I remember

713
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I remember back in the day when when Mark Wilson

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played at San Diego, and I think in four or

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five first passes he threw three touchdown passes and Rupa

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Singa Parsia, the former Notary Gate game coach, was on

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the call and he was in I never seen anything

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like this. So that's the day back and there. And

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then you had Norm Chow, who was an akolade it is.

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I think Norm Chow is a very underappreciated coach for

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the things that he did and developing receivers. He started

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as a receiver coach a by U and uh and

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then he was the offensive coordinator. But no, he was

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brilliant in the way that he could do things. And

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I think you got to credit the Lance Reynolds for

726
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coming along and helping him in a lot of ways

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behind the scenes. But no, Norm Chow should be right

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up there with Scoville. I think Scoville's won norm Chow's two.

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I would put the running back acumen that Robert and

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I have brought in. He had a couple of the

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leading rushers and by U history because of the design

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that he had and the attitude that he had. But

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right now, in this era of independence and and and

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uh and uh and the power of Power four and

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the Big twelve, you got to give Aaron Rodericks some credit.

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This season has been remarkable what he's been able to do.

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You look back at every game they started slow, so

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times offensively, but he's found a way to grind, grind

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it out. And this team has been remarkable in the

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way it's been able to focus on the task at hand,

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trust one another, and believe in themselves to come back

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from fourteen points down. I think it's three times this

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year that they did that early in games. And it's

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just been one of the better seasons I've seen. And

745
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I think Aaron Roddick deserves all the credit in the world.

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Speaker 5: Love that breakdown, Dick harmon, Ladies and gentlemen. A couple

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last things before we let you go. You're gonna be

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watching the BYU men's basketball game tonight, And obviously this

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team is amazing, monumental. You know we're gonna get aj

750
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for one season, though, right are we ever going to

751
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:48,639
have Danny Ainge A Jimmer for debt type player come

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through a Kresmirchosich that goes for you know, three four

753
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,079
years and then leaves after becoming a legend. Are we

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going to have any of those anymore? Do you think

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Richie Saunders? Maybe maybe it's the Richie rich She's a

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legend and he's going to become a legend. Are we

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going to continue to have that in this new era?

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Speaker 6: I don't think so. I think because of the way.

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I mean, if you're going to get a top twenty

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five player and he's going to be that good, he's

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won and done, you might get a second year out

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of him, but you know, depending on where he's projected

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in the draft, because it might be more financially well

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off to come back for a second year with nil

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and to take advantage of that rather than to be

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a free agent or not be drafted. So that could

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happen with a player. But I think the key to

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that story is that Bo He's going to be in

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the game with some top notch players AJ paving the way.

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Now you get a guy like Rob Right. I mean,

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these two guys with Richie, you're probably the best trio

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that I've ever seen, and I've been covering BAU basketball first,

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well just washing it back in the mid sixties, so

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professionally since seventy eight that I've never seen a trio

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00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:57,960
like this. The closest you could get was probably Danny

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Ainge and Fred Roberts and Steve Trumbull and and Greg Kite.

777
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That group the guys that played in the NBA. That

778
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,719
that was a good team of talent. But this is

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a remarkable talent in a lot of ways that boy's

780
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,119
never had. Have you Can you ever imagine a guard

781
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:17,079
like Robert Wright doing what he's doing. The defenses you

782
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:19,840
can't guard him. Now, he's taken some shots, he forces

783
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,880
some stuff, he gets down there and gets caught. You've

784
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,639
never seen a dribbler that can do what he did

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on the BAU uniform.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question. Who's the I need you

787
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to write this article. Who's the best big three in

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b y U basketball history?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's that's a very good question. And then

790
00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:41,679
you might have to go back to Jimmer Fordett, Jimmer

791
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:48,199
Furdett and Emery and let's see the fascinda that got suspended.

792
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,840
What's his name, Brandon Davies. And then you had a

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00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,880
team there that probably was one of the best chemistry

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00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,599
teams that bo He's ever had. I mean the way

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those pieces fit, the role plane that was done, the

796
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,039
unselfishness of those players to act with you. That to

797
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:07,400
one of the greatest shooters that ever put on a

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bo uniform. That was That was the lead.

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Speaker 3: I lose you there, Dick. You're still there?

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Speaker 5: No, No, okay, sorry, I thought sorry, I thought I

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00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,840
lost you there for a second.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The big three obviously Rob right the third and of Richie,

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Saunders and AJ It'll be intriguing to see how they

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how they continue to win their way through their schedule. Well,

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Dick can join the game to night. Happy birthday. We

807
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love and appreciate you as always. Appreciate talking some ball

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00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:37,119
with you, talking sports, talking Cougar sports. Nobody does it

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00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:39,679
better than you, Dick, your legend. Appreciate you joining us today.

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Speaker 6: Hey, thanks Ben, you guys do a great job. Keep

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up the good work and hope to see you around.

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I'll see you down at bull practice probably, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll see you down there. Appreciate you, Dick.

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