WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:03.799 Yeah, it is that time, time to make a change. 2 00:00:03.839 --> 00:00:06.280 You're listening to Truth Time with doctor Cornell West and 3 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:10.160 Nina Turner. We counted all joy that we are here 4 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:15.199 together today. Per usual, Doc, we are excited. So much 5 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:18.320 going on in the world, in our country and the world. 6 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:21.559 One of the things that are just just on my mind, 7 00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:25.800 really really tough is the fact that the Democrats decided 8 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:29.679 to put a taco truck in front of the Republican 9 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:35.719 National Committees headquarters to give out free tacos, and they 10 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:41.399 used the slogan that Trump what was their slogan, Trump 11 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:46.600 Always chickens Out and that spells taco. You know, just 12 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:49.439 thinking to myself of all the things that the Democratic 13 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:53.759 Party could be doing to advance ideas and policies, to 14 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:57.719 stand up for working class people, to change material conditions, 15 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:01.520 to plot and plan, strategize organized. Those are the words 16 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:04.760 of our brother Michael Rinder aka Killer Mike. I don't 17 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:09.920 think putting a taco truck outside of the RNC headquarters 18 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:15.680 with the slogan Trump Always chickens Out it's quite meeting 19 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:17.719 the mark for the needs today. But I don't know, Doc, 20 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:19.879 That's just me. So we'll get to that some other 21 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:22.280 things that are on our mind. But first we got 22 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:25.319 to start with you, Doc. You're in the house, so glad. 23 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:31.200 I tell you, yeah, all of this trickery and gimmickry, 24 00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:38.079 it's all superficials, vacuity. It's it's empty, but it's a 25 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:43.359 sign of a mag a managerial class that lacks imagination, 26 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:46.439 and it also lacks courage, so it just wants to 27 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:51.319 appeal to the spectacle rather than get at substance. And 28 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:54.599 you can't have substance if you don't have character. You 29 00:01:54.680 --> 00:01:57.519 can't have character if you don't have courage, And you 30 00:01:57.599 --> 00:01:59.959 can't have courage unless you're willing to take a rich 31 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:04.159 unless you're willing to live and be willing to actually 32 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.799 die for something while you live. And if you don't, 33 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:10.400 if you're not moving in that direction, then it's clear 34 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:14.599 that it's just all gimmickry. And unfortunately that characterizes so 35 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:17.800 much of the leadership of the Democratic Party and of 36 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:25.039 course Republican parties, just downright gangsterism, so that we locked 37 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:28.240 into this system of overwhelming corruption. But I tell you 38 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:31.599 this though, that one of the things on my mind. 39 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:35.360 I was up late last night watching the line dancing 40 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:41.879 of the Senior hands dance of Earner's gist there in 41 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:46.280 Virginian d MV, which is you know the Three States. 42 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:49.159 There's something about this line dancing, you know eight o 43 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:54.719 three fresh coming out of Carolina or the Carolina so everywhere. 44 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:57.759 Now you got these folks dance with these boots on 45 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:07.120 the ground. We got their fans waving boots on the ground, 46 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:11.800 and that is for real. There's something very authentic about 47 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:15.240 folk moving their bodies in a groove like way to 48 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:19.080 a music that speaks to their soul. It could be 49 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:24.439 King George, it could be David Scott's your Birthday, it 50 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:27.680 could be Glee roy Allen just talking about I l 51 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:32.479 O V y O U. People are hungry for the 52 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:36.240 real thing in this line dancing, I think is I 53 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:40.919 hope it is a prefiguration of deeper forms of Black 54 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:46.680 people coming together in genuine solidarity, not uniformity, but acknowledging 55 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:51.439 the diversity of voices, but still coming together in order 56 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:57.439 to defend ourselves and determine ourselves. And they affirm our 57 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:00.360 dignity and do it in such a way that we're 58 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:04.120 willing to live and die. I say, now that's it's 59 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:06.599 a move from a line dance to being a freedom fighter. 60 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:11.360 We understand that. But those in the line dance, they free. 61 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:14.199 I was talking down they hit about this last night. 62 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:16.879 They are free, and everybody doing it their own way. 63 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:20.560 You got sisters up in there and moving. Some of 64 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:23.959 them got wig some of them got their natural hair, 65 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:27.600 some all of them dignified, all of them looking beautiful. 66 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:30.360 Some of them eighty years old, and some of them 67 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:33.240 are twenty five. And I give it up the eight 68 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:36.920 o three fresh, because part of his vision is the 69 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:40.399 whole movement is trying to get us back to a 70 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:44.800 deep soulfulness. And soul is the sharing of a soothing 71 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:48.199 sweetness against the backdrop of a catastrophe that's real as 72 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:50.879 a heart attack, that is new as foam and as 73 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:56.519 solid as a rock. Stay you back fall. 74 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:01.040 Facky Royman, you're laying it out. I love that, y'all. 75 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:02.560 I love that. Boots on the ground. I ain't tried 76 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:05.439 it yet. I know my my significant other, he wants 77 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:07.560 me to learn that. He said that that's gonna be pretty. 78 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:09.759 He said that's gonna be Oh yeah, you. 79 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:15.240 On the ground, dolls man and the hit the We 80 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:18.560 we be doing our little thing, you know, right in 81 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:21.879 front with the earnest just group right there with those 82 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:23.319 magnificent black folks. 83 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:26.439 It's just a beautiful thing. And and it's it's it 84 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:33.879 just reverts us back to family, community, tradition, struggle, black 85 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:39.720 joy at all of this despair, you know, damping your 86 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:45.519 fire to put out your soul. No, no, sometimes all 87 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:47.759 you can do is sing a song or crack a smile, 88 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:51.000 a shed a tear, get in the line and just 89 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:53.319 dance with the others. And you don't have to even 90 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:55.439 get necessarily go with the steps. All the time. I 91 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:59.639 see some folk in there just moving with the line. 92 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.839 They're just moving, moving with the line. You see. 93 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:06.800 Yeah, it's a it's a it's a beautiful thing. And 94 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:10.160 finding that joy, you know, joy in the revolution, joy 95 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:11.959 in the work. We got a pause because that's how 96 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:14.040 we keep going. And we know in terms of our 97 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:17.800 ancestors and what they bring, there's like this collective memory 98 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:21.160 of black people. You know, many of us have not 99 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:23.800 been to the continent. Certainly, many of us don't necessarily 100 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:28.240 know where our specific ancestors hail from on the continent. 101 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:33.160 But there is a collective bringing over carryover some of 102 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:35.920 those traditions that we might not quite understand but back 103 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:39.720 when you jextapose our line dancing with what our sisters 104 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:41.959 and brothers and family friends doing over there on the continent, 105 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:44.800 maybe it's pretty much the same. 106 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:51.959 You see the yes, absolutely deep similarity overlap strong. 107 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:56.240 It's uncanny. I mean, it's almost scary, you know. And 108 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:58.920 we are we are the most emulated people on the 109 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:03.160 planet listening to Truth Time without the corner west And 110 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:06.319 and Nina Turner, we're talking about black joy in the 111 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:09.759 midst of the struggle. You know, earlier this morning we 112 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:13.959 were together doing some things. And you know, yesterday as 113 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:16.480 I was coming you know, my social media, just reading 114 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:20.639 some articles too, and saw this that the Democratic Party 115 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:24.399 was giving away tacos yesterday between twelve and two pm 116 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:27.920 in front of the RNC, and their thing that they're 117 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:33.199 pushing is Trump always chicken chickens out. And so I 118 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:36.360 quote tweeted on top of that, I had to. I 119 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:37.879 had to. I had to. I had to step back 120 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:40.160 for a minute because I wanted to cuss only, but 121 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:43.920 I calmed myself down. I wanted to speak in tongues, 122 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:47.199 you know. I took a step back, and this is 123 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:50.560 what I quote tweeted on top of this foolishness, this nonsense. 124 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:53.759 I said at DNC, no, you know, and I have 125 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:57.680 to put a whole bunch of o's. This stunt further 126 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:02.279 illustrates how unserious are party is, or for others who 127 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:05.000 are not part of the Democratic Party, how unserious the 128 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:09.639 party is. People are starving, people are losing jobs and 129 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:15.279 health care, and y'all playing kid games tricks are for kids? 130 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.199 Do I just you know, for a party that has 131 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.319 a twenty seven percent approval rating, a party that lost 132 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:26.639 the popular vote and the electoral College. The President Donald J. 133 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:30.600 Trump made him stronger this time around than he was 134 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:34.480 even when he won back in twenty sixteen. I'm just 135 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:38.120 thinking to myself, y'all have not learned any lessons at all. 136 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:41.200 People's health care is being taken with the cuts to Medicaid. 137 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:45.159 Folks work in a gig economy that if it was 138 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:47.840 extra money it would probably be okay. But for some 139 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:50.639 people they got four and five gigs just to string together. 140 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:55.320 We got chaos brewing in the White House, in the Congress, 141 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:59.320 in the Judiciary, and y'all think is proven y'all being 142 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:02.799 the leadership of the Democratic Party to win now they 143 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:04.039 had to pay for this I don't know how much 144 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:08.279 costs a taco truck to give away tacos in front 145 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:10.519 of the RNC, And then they think they doing something 146 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:13.720 that just didn't sit well with me, giving the suffering. Now, 147 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:17.000 if people were doing alright, and most people were doing 148 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:19.279 mighty fine, I still would have thought it was stupid. 149 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:21.679 But in the midst of the crisis that we are 150 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:24.399 in right now, and they think this is cute, They 151 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:26.440 think that this is gonna hurt President Trump, which it 152 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:29.759 is not. It just shows that, you know, maybe it 153 00:09:29.799 --> 00:09:30.600 ain't fit the lead. 154 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:34.080 Mmm, no, but no, I hear you. I hear you 155 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:38.080 those strong words though it's just I guess it's both 156 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:45.320 sad but to be expected. That vision is lacking, backbone 157 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:49.399 is lacking, spine is lacking in the leadership of the 158 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:53.639 Democratic Party. It's just a fundamental fact. No color, not 159 00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:55.879 even a matter of color, because you got some black, 160 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:58.720 white ones, brown ones, and others just want to fit 161 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:02.799 into the established man that wanna be able to act 162 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:06.000 as if you know, all they need to do is 163 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:08.639 just make fun of Trump and they gonna win. Now. 164 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:11.480 If you don't have nothing positive, if you don't have 165 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:15.279 a vision that moving people forward and then all of 166 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:18.080 the little cheap name call is not gonna work. Now, 167 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:21.080 it's truth. Trump is a gangster, he was inophobe, he's 168 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:22.759 a race. We can go on and on and on 169 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:25.200 with that, but you can only say that so many 170 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:29.200 times that where it touches people that want to do something, 171 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:32.960 it is the truth. But you got to say more 172 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.519 than the truth. You got to say more than the truth. 173 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:38.320 And in fact, you know, as Melville says, and part 174 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:40.759 of the greatest short story of the American literature named 175 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:48.039 Billy budd Herman, Melville says, truth uncompromisingly spoken, always has 176 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:52.600 jagged edges. So if you're gonna speak the truth about Trump, 177 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:56.440 which it finds, go at his gangsterism and thuggish activity, 178 00:10:56.840 --> 00:10:58.960 but that truth is also gonna come back at you. 179 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:02.559 And if all you got to offer is taco symbolically 180 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:09.360 and thaco phonetically, then you ain't got too much to offer. 181 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:14.480 You just don't you read, really don't You got genocide 182 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:18.720 happening and gods the genocide Sedan. You got poverty and 183 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:23.200 Black America, White America, Brown America, indigenous peoples. You got 184 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:26.639 sixty two percent of Americans living paycheck to paycheck. You 185 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:30.759 got increasing violence at home, domestic as well as social 186 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:34.320 people more and more killing each other. Well, they're killing 187 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:39.360 Jews in Colorado, which is sickly. I just I heard 188 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:42.919 about these visious of tax on black folk for swastikas. 189 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:47.679 I mean, all of this xenophytic violence, but tax on Palestinians, 190 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:51.240 tax on air Rabs and Muslims, all this xenophobic violence 191 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:57.120 going on, connected to the economy, connected to the imperial 192 00:11:57.159 --> 00:11:59.320 policies abroad, and all you can come up with is 193 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:06.039 selling tax Cole his chicken. He ain't a bitted now, 194 00:12:06.519 --> 00:12:08.240 Lord have mercy. 195 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:10.759 Yeah, that docor and they weren't even selling them, and 196 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:11.519 they would give him. 197 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:14.039 Away away for free. Yeah yeah, athetic. 198 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:18.879 I mean it's just it's it's it's pathetic. And then 199 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:21.919 another point on that that that brother Ridan brought to 200 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:28.759 our attention that he spotted was somebody making the reference that, hey, democrash, 201 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:30.919 I might want to slow down on that rhetoric because, 202 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:34.519 and I'm paraphrasing you know the story that Ryan told us. 203 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:38.759 But if this man is a neo fascist, and which 204 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:40.679 we we know it is, if he's somebody that's gonna 205 00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:45.039 abuse power, why would you poke the bear? You know, 206 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:47.279 and I'm paying Why would you poke the bear and 207 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:49.879 say chicken and out? What is it that you want? 208 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:53.919 You want him to go harder on the foolishness that 209 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:56.240 he's already putting out there. I mean, Democrats, this don't 210 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.600 even make any sense. You should be trying to get 211 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:02.559 him to pull back, not threatening his ego, and to 212 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:05.159 say that he always chickens out to talk your thoughts 213 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.200 on that, and then you brought up an important point 214 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:10.960 about how the money class and the tariffs and all 215 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:14.159 of that. So the Democratic Party in this duopoly, they 216 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:16.120 got to make up their mind whose side they're on 217 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:19.559 and stop falling for these things that seem cute in 218 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:24.000 the moment, but really do a disservice to both what 219 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:27.159 the Democrats claim they are and want to be, and 220 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:29.759 also does a disservice to the faithful who believe in 221 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:34.120 in this party to do something different than the Republican Party. 222 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:38.840 Absolutely, I mean, one of my observations was was that 223 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:41.799 it was Wall Street that first came up with this 224 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:46.879 claim about taco. Because Trump says he's going to push tears, 225 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:49.840 then he changes his mind and pulls back. He says 226 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:52.799 he's going to increase the percentage. Then he pulls it. 227 00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:55.679 Then he pulls back, and you see, for Wall Street, 228 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:57.720 it doesn't give it damn about poor people, don't give 229 00:13:57.720 --> 00:14:00.320 it damn about working people. All they want to do 230 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:05.080 is push Trump and play with Trump in such a 231 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:08.879 way that the terrors go down so they profits go up. 232 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:12.399 But see, Trump ain't been chicking it out in terms 233 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:16.120 of his vicious attacks on immigrants. He hasn't been chicken 234 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:19.919 it out in terms of his vicious attacks on poor people, 235 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:22.519 cutting back or taking from the poor in order to 236 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:25.519 give to the rich with this beautiful bill. There ain't 237 00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:29.279 nothing beautiful about that bill. It's im moral, it's unjust, 238 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:32.600 and it crushes poor and working people. Now I see 239 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:35.279 that he's not chicking it out. He's he's a gangster. 240 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:40.279 He's up front. That's offensive. That's very offensive, you see. 241 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:43.879 And it's offensive in terms of hims functioning to genocide. God, 242 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:49.440 it's offensive in terms of him trying new and invite 243 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:52.840 money from the Arab elitues. Most Araby leagues don't give 244 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:55.519 a dang about their own poor and working people, don't 245 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:59.279 give a dang about Palestinians undergoing genocide. They just living 246 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:03.440 living law, just like trumping in Florida, just living large 247 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:06.879 and so in that sense, I tried to just contextualize 248 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:09.519 that tackle things and it ain't. It ain't poor people 249 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.240 saying he's a chicken. No, he's coming at us with 250 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:17.600 pitch forks. We got to keep fight. 251 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:21.320 We do. I mean, he's doing what he said he 252 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:24.240 was gonna do how he said he was gonna do it, 253 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:28.720 disregarding what law is. You know, often the so called 254 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:33.000 law and order party breaking all kinds of law, twisting 255 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:39.360 the law to state to them. And I just the 256 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:44.200 lack of depth of the Democratic Party even after I'm 257 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:46.519 gonna use the term that President Obama used when they 258 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:50.399 lost in twenty ten. You know when the blowback, the 259 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:53.360 backlash happened in twenty ten where they lost over a 260 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:57.440 thousand seats both collectively on the federal and state levels, 261 00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:00.639 when he said we've been slacked. And for Democrat fast 262 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:04.000 forward and now don't understand they've been selected and they 263 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:06.879 need to think very seriously and very carefully, both how 264 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:11.960 inside that Congress or Democrats represent as electeds and both 265 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:15.679 the apparatus of the DNC, how they come at people, 266 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:22.159 how they cultivate a coalition that can push back against authoritarianism. 267 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.440 But no, they're not doing that. All they care about 268 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:29.679 is trying to be cute, and they look they looking crazy. 269 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:32.960 They're looking crazy. But they still tied to that big money. 270 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:33.840 They that's right. 271 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.120 Got Oh they want their good billionaires as opposed to 272 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:40.360 the bad billionaires to support Trump, but it's still both 273 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:42.919 parties tied to the billionaire strata. 274 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:46.720 Yeah. And I would say a good billionaire or a 275 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:51.759 good multi millionaire is somebody who understands that the system 276 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:57.279 as it is going is untenable, that so few having 277 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.919 so much is wrong. First of all, it's not sustainable, 278 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:05.519 and it is wrong. The majority of our economy, seventy 279 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:10.279 percent of our economy is a consumer based economy. So 280 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:14.640 when you have barely middle class people working for all, 281 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:16.920 everybody's in the working class. When you have working class 282 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:21.559 people who do not have disposable income based on the 283 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:26.039 way this economy is shaped, that hurts everybody. Dare I 284 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:29.359 say even though ultra wealthy, I'm saying that because the 285 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:32.400 system as it exists now is not in their interest. Now, 286 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:35.000 I don't believe that billionaire should exist, but since we 287 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:38.039 got a few of them, let's have a strong conversation 288 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:44.480 about having a strong working class that is strong spiritually, mentally, 289 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:49.839 and economically also helps them. 290 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:53.960 That's exactly right, especially in the long run, because in 291 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:57.400 the long run it's gonna collapse and everybody goes under. 292 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:03.559 That's right, everybody goes under. 293 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:11.400 And god, I just the Democrats just don't They just 294 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:13.599 don't get it, and they like these stunts. You know, 295 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:15.200 the things are coming out. You got a lot of 296 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:19.039 these neoliberals that wouldn't say a mumbling word while President 297 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:20.799 Biden was in office, but now all of a sudden 298 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:22.839 they coming out. You know, his press secretary that now 299 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:28.160 came out and said she going independent. Oh z I mean, 300 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:32.279 oh yeah, god it, Oh yeah, just happened. You're writing 301 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:35.880 a whole book about it. And I'm thinking to myself, 302 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:37.480 her or none of these other people should get a 303 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:40.880 pat on the back. They should be ignored, because I 304 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:44.200 am old enough to remember when this press secretary went 305 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:49.720 off on congress women Rashiita Talib and Bush and called 306 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:55.839 them at horrent and repugnant. Ooh you're talking about yeah, yeah, yeah, 307 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:59.359 Congresswoman Corey Bush. She said this about Congresswoman Corey Bush 308 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:03.480 and also Congresswoman Rashida Tali because they were standing up 309 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:08.440 for humanity, the humanity, the humanity Palestinians. This woman said 310 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:12.039 this in the press room for on behalf of the 311 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:16.920 White House. She had to have known what was going 312 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:21.119 on with President Biden. So to me, people like her, 313 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:26.559 people like Secretary Boutajag, people like Congressman Betto from Texas, 314 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:31.480 they don't get no brownie points from me. No, I agree, 315 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:34.920 they don't get no high five because it does not 316 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:39.039 They are not reflecting courage because they didn't have the 317 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:41.960 courage to say it when it county and they misled 318 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:44.519 the American people. She also got interviewed one time and 319 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:46.559 she was asked, I think she was on Morning Joe, 320 00:19:46.559 --> 00:19:49.079 but don't hold me to this about you know, how 321 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:52.480 is the president houses stamina is up for the job. 322 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:54.759 And she pretty much said something like I gotta try 323 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:57.119 to keep up with them. Now she knows she was lying, 324 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:03.480 but now she's about to be rewarded with a book deal. 325 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:07.240 And also she has declared herself now. 326 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:12.920 An independent independent Lord help mercy. Ain't got no regard 327 00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:16.319 for the truth. What so have. 328 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:21.880 Not when it counted not at all? Ooh, y'all, you're 329 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:23.839 listening to the Truth Town. Hold that thought, Doc, We're gonna 330 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:25.440 get to it. On the other side, you're listening to 331 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:28.559 truth Town with doctor Cornell West and Nina Turner. When 332 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:32.759 we come forward, we will continue our riveting conversation. We 333 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:35.200 want to lift up, continue to lift up the fact 334 00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:40.599 that KBLA Talk fifteen eighty four years old, the vision 335 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:44.480 of our very own brother, Tavis Smiley and the entire team, 336 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:47.759 because it takes teamwork to make the dream work. The 337 00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:52.960 anniversary is coming up. The events plural are fast approaching, 338 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:55.279 and we don't want you to miss out, so please 339 00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:57.960 make sure that you sign up now. 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We can have 351 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:42.039 fun with a purpose, and that is primarily what this 352 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:45.480 and part of what this anniversary is all about. And 353 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:48.440 so we would be grateful for anything, just anything that 354 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:50.839 you can share. But again, make sure you sign up 355 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:55.319 KBLA fifteen eighty dot com. I'm excited. I know you're 356 00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:56.759 gonna be there right well. 357 00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:58.200 I'm gonna be at least a day and a half 358 00:21:58.240 --> 00:21:59.880 or so. We're gonna be there for the c span 359 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:04.680 and gathering, and then I've got to run off to Denver, Florida. 360 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:06.759 I think it is. I gotta go to Florida right 361 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:09.880 after that next day, so I won't be there for 362 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.400 all of the barbecue and things. I'll be thinking about 363 00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:15.640 the barbecue because I don't have nothing against the pig. 364 00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:22.759 Maybe I should, but uh, that barbecue he tasted good. 365 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:26.720 I'm telling you, it does. 366 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:31.160 It does. I dabble every every now, every now and then, 367 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:33.039 but I try to stay away from the swine as 368 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:33.640 much as I. 369 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:38.559 Can't understand that. My Muslim brothers and sisters, they teach 370 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:46.000 me well. But I got some center for pro liberty. 371 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:47.279 Me too, dying. My dad is Muslim, so you know, 372 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:51.359 I love your father. 373 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:53.240 He's a wise and wonderful man. 374 00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:56.359 Yes he is. Indeed, we appreciate all of you, so 375 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:58.359 don't forget. Please make sure you sign up and join 376 00:22:58.440 --> 00:23:01.400 us on this anniversary lift up. Sen brother tabs a 377 00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:04.480 whole lot of love because without his vision, we would 378 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:07.079 not have this platform. He said time and time again 379 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:09.799 how important he believes it is for us to have 380 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:12.960 our own platform so that we can tell our own stories. 381 00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:15.079 And after Wise, you and brother Taban, you guys have 382 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:19.200 been doing similar things on and off for a long time. 383 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:20.599 I know you call him your brother. 384 00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:23.960 Oh indeed, no, it goes back almost forty years. Though. 385 00:23:24.079 --> 00:23:27.839 We've been through hell and high water, freezing over breakdancing 386 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:30.160 on the ice and getting ready for the fire. 387 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:33.400 Boots on the ground before boots on the ground was 388 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:36.680 wrong at you lie? 389 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:38.079 Lie? What in fan? 390 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:38.359 That? 391 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:48.039 Yes, sir, kicking up some dust? 392 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:53.839 Yes, the true Oh yeah, you both exhibited You exhibited 393 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:57.119 courage when very few would you know. So I love 394 00:23:57.160 --> 00:23:59.119 you both for it that We're gonna go to our 395 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:03.000 live chat on the tube. We got blessed peacemaker in 396 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:06.960 the house, per usual. Hey, we counted all joy to 397 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:11.279 be doing true together right now. With you all, with 398 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:14.640 you all. God, bless you, Doctor Wes and Senator Turner. 399 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:19.079 Thank you, Blessed Peacemaker. Cultures in the house. We cannot 400 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:22.000 change the system, but we can change how the system 401 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:25.880