WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.519 --> 00:00:06.559 Weird thing happened. 2 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:25.519 Weird weird, weird. 3 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:31.600 Guys. Once again, somehow the universe keeps bringing us the 4 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:33.920 most extraordinary magical guests. 5 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:34.640 Uh. 6 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:37.079 We have a very amazing guest with us today. But 7 00:00:37.240 --> 00:00:41.840 before we get into the conversation, there's something that I 8 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:45.799 want to remind you guys about that's happening in Wisconsin 9 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:50.159 in May. We're going to be in Delavan, Wisconsin from 10 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:54.119 May second to May fourth at the Contact Modalities Expo. 11 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:57.520 I'm really looking forward to this event and like my 12 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:00.479 excitement is building. It's only just a few weeks away now. 13 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:07.079 That is gonna be the keynote speaker of this conference 14 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:12.799 that's focused around establishing multiple different modalities of contact, whether 15 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:16.799 that's with spirit or entities or you know, what have you. 16 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:19.840 And I think that encompasses a lot of things. There's 17 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:23.239 gonna be three conference rooms running simultaneously throughout the weekend 18 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:27.319 with people from every background in this space that you 19 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:32.280 can think of, from breath work to shamanism, to light therapy, 20 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:38.799 to templar mysteries to contact with multi dimensional beings. That's 21 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:42.319 us to uh, I mean, you name it in this space. 22 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:44.599 It's gonna be there Friday night, We're gonna have a 23 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:47.439 SkyWatch hosted by US or I should say, you know, 24 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:51.519 guided by US. Saturday, there's gonna be a cocktail party 25 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:54.480 with a live DJ run in. It's gonna be banging. 26 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:58.319 And then on Sunday there's gonna be a fire style 27 00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:02.560 side chat. Man was a doozy with my dad led 28 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:06.040 by Jimmy Church live on stage for everyone in the 29 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:10.199 audience to follow along live. It's gonna be an amazing event. 30 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:13.680 I'm very very excited to go, and especially since I'm 31 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:15.960 finding out that so many of my friends in this 32 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:20.639 space are gonna be there as well, like Hakeem, like Megan, 33 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:23.759 two lovely individuals who have been on our show, and 34 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:26.960 so many other amazing guests. It's gonna be awesome. Check 35 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:31.680 out Contact Modalities xpo dot com to get your tickets. 36 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:33.719 Really hope to see you guys there. I already know 37 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:35.840 so many omis are reaching out being like yo, I 38 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:38.400 live down the road. I'm gonna be there. It's it's 39 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:41.000 it's gonna be an event for bsis bro. It's it's 40 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:43.879 gonna be sick. So anyway, check it out. Contactmodalities xpo 41 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:49.599 dot com. Now to our lovely fantastic guest. We are 42 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:52.919 graced today by the presidence of Patty Dubrov. 43 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:56.439 Did I say that right, brod broff? 44 00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:58.120 Okay, a little bit more. 45 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:01.400 Yes, it's a Russian name and means a big oak tree. 46 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:06.879 Yeah, that's cool. My name, my last name is Ferminitis 47 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:08.319 and it means of the earth. 48 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:10.879 Interesting, look at us earth? 49 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:11.599 Interesting? 50 00:03:11.639 --> 00:03:14.400 Hey, hey, me too. I found out that bledstone means 51 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:14.919 a hill. 52 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:16.439 Come on, a. 53 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:19.360 Wise man. 54 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:24.280 Yeah, there's a wizard vibes here, shamman wizards. 55 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:27.120 Can I add to this? I want to add to this. 56 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:31.680 We were just at lunch, obviously and just enjoying this 57 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:34.719 beautiful French cafe and just catching up, and we were 58 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.599 talking about Hollywood, which is you know, obviously because you're 59 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:39.400 in the industry, and we'll talk a little bit about 60 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:41.599 that if you're if you're down with that. But we 61 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:44.159 were talking about the significance of the word Hollywood and 62 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:48.680 the magic behind the word, and and I was just like, well, Patty, 63 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:51.479 you know and in ancient times the druids would construct 64 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:52.680 wands out of holly trees. 65 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:54.319 And You're like, what, I. 66 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:57.000 Didn't know that, which I find fascinating that I thought 67 00:03:57.039 --> 00:03:59.000 for sure you would know that, you know. But you 68 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:01.840 know what else is so is that the other tree 69 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:04.280 of significance were oak trees. 70 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:07.719 Oh that I knew. I knew that oak trees were 71 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:10.000 very kind of deeply sacred. 72 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:14.919 Yeah, talking about the druids, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, oak trees. 73 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:17.959 It's interesting that Hollywood is what it is and is 74 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:20.839 named that. It's like, I don't know, a weird synchronicity, 75 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:23.959 kind of like it's obviously imbued with a lot of magic, 76 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:27.600 magical things happen in that place. Did we did we 77 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:33.279 even say what you do professionally? You're an incredible decorated 78 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:34.199 makeup artist. 79 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:35.879 Is that an illusionist? 80 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:42.160 Okay, okay? What kind of illusions are you spinning us today? 81 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:48.720 The Hollywood dream, the beautiful women's faces, turning them in 82 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:55.759 from you know, mirror mortals, humans, lovely ladies into movie stars. 83 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:57.439 Well, how long have you been doing it? 84 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:00.839 I've been doing makeup since I was ten years old 85 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:05.360 and I will be fifty seven soon, but obviously not 86 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:07.879 professionally since I was ten. But I got my first 87 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:10.519 job as a makeup artist getting paid was when I 88 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:14.199 was eighteen at a department store, and then I started 89 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:19.519 working in the kind of fashion, music, kind of world 90 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:23.000 of New York City, you know, from again like twenty 91 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:25.560 through and here I am in Hollywood. 92 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:26.600 Where'd you grow up? 93 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:27.839 I grew up in New Jersey. 94 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:28.600 Oh nice. 95 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:31.319 But I am German originally, so I had a lot 96 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:34.879 in common with Jenny and her beautiful mom, who looks 97 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:36.560 like she could be my relative. 98 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:39.759 I'm saying shockingly. So I didn't get to make it 99 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:41.720 to lunch with you guys. But when I walked in 100 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:43.360 and saw the two of you next to each other, 101 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.199 I was like, is this Patty or is this one 102 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:49.959 of Pearl's relatives? Is it? She looks like she could be. 103 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:54.480 The second I put my eyes on Crystal. 104 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:57.399 Pearls her nickname, Pearls her nickname, yeah, something. 105 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:02.959 With crystals and pearls. Yeah, you've got crystals behind you 106 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:05.879 on that drawing. Wow, she is a magical lady. But 107 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:07.279 as soon as I put my eyes on her, I 108 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:10.680 was like, oh my god, you look like my family. 109 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:14.639 You're my sister from another myster like wow. And the 110 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:18.160 fact that we're both German, you know, there was something 111 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:22.920 really really I felt really connected to her. Immediately. 112 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:25.639 I felt that too, Like four, I thought it was 113 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:26.480 a little weird. 114 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:28.720 The vibe was like, you guys were reuniting. 115 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:31.480 Yes, exactly, that's what it felt like. 116 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:33.560 Like. I was like they didn't know each other. 117 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:35.480 And you know what's so wild is she looks a 118 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:38.560 lot like what my grandmother looked like, you know. And 119 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:45.879 I've been right now doing this kind of ancestral work on, 120 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:51.560 like clearing ancestral traumas and baggage and working with my 121 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:54.399 grandmother the spirit of my grandmother to help me kind 122 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:57.959 of like unpack stuff that I feel like I've been 123 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:01.040 carrying around. So the fact that I walk in and 124 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:06.319 there's my grandmother's face, it's I'm shake like, I feel weird. 125 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:08.480 I feel weird, you guys. 126 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:12.519 I resonate with that because something my dad always taught 127 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:14.680 me growing up was that the spirit of our loved 128 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:17.600 ones are with us, you know. And that's something that 129 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:19.560 I always wanted to be true, and now I know 130 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:22.439 it to be true. But I've always kind of spoken 131 00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:26.839 to my grandfathers, who have now both passed, and oftentimes 132 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:30.480 they come to me in dreams. Many times they're together 133 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:33.360 in the dream, or it's like one of them, or 134 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:35.399 I'll have a dream about the other. When I was 135 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:38.040 at Monroe, I had an experience my last experience there 136 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:40.319 where they were like kind of both holding me by 137 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:42.399 the hand and taking me somewhere. And I've always felt 138 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:46.040 that connection like with my loss or you know, deceased grandfathers. 139 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:47.720 So it's very fascinating stuff. 140 00:07:47.879 --> 00:07:51.120 But yeah, there's a lot of power in our lineage 141 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:53.560 and you know, a lot of lessons that we can learn. 142 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:57.160 And then also if we're not kind of clearing it 143 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:59.959 and we can carry burdens from our ancestor. 144 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:03.079 Yeah, and we carry a lot of their like what 145 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:06.839 would you call it, like spiritual momentum. Yeah, the things 146 00:08:06.839 --> 00:08:10.279 that they did in their lives, it's passed on to 147 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:13.439 us and you can, like I feel like sometimes I 148 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:17.000 can really feel it. It's it comes in these these 149 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:20.000 little pockets of time for me, and it's very short lived. 150 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.839 It's something that I would like to connect more to 151 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:25.800 at some point in my life. I've thought that for 152 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:28.600 some time, like I really want to find a way 153 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:31.720 to spiritually connect with my ancestors because it just feels 154 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:34.519 so important and it feels like I would learn more 155 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:38.840 about myself and what I am here to do. Well. 156 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:41.480 Mediumship work, you know, you can work with a medium 157 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:45.320 who can you know, help bring in whatever ancestors want 158 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:47.120 to want to communicate with you. 159 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:48.279 Yeah, I would like to do. 160 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:49.240 Also, dreams. 161 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:50.759 I don't have a lot of dreams. 162 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:51.399 Oh that's true. 163 00:08:51.559 --> 00:08:55.840 I have a fantasia and so I don't have very 164 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:56.720 many dreams at all. 165 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:58.200 It's or visual phenomenon. 166 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:00.679 I don't. I can't. I can't really see things in 167 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:04.799 my mind. But maybe maybe two percent of the time 168 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:07.240 I can see a little bit, and then maybe once 169 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:10.080 or twice a month I'll have a dream, and so 170 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:14.720 it's it's difficult. But I really have been thinking a 171 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:16.759 lot lately about seeing a medium. 172 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:19.320 I think I might know some people I can connect 173 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:21.080 with that that. 174 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:24.039 Would be really cool. It just seems like an important 175 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:27.440 thing to do. I just want to know, like, you know, 176 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:30.360 what they felt and what they went through, and what 177 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:34.159 sort of things that they would have wanted to improve 178 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:37.360 about themselves or the things that they would want for 179 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:40.559 their future, you know, descendants and I don't know. 180 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:43.600 It just seems really messages that you know, they might 181 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:44.799 want to share wisdom. 182 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:46.120 Yeah, yeah, guidance. 183 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:47.960 I don't know about you guys, but a lot of 184 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:50.480 times throughout my life and it's a random phenomenon, right, 185 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:53.159 But it happens a lot where I'll just be going 186 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:56.320 about my day and then I'll get struck with this 187 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:00.360 lucid moment of feeling like, for some reason, right now 188 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.600 my grandfather's with me, Oh yeah, or my cousin who passed. 189 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:04.840 You ever experienced that? 190 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:09.200 Not so much. I mean maybe because I've blocked it out. 191 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:13.200 I think I'm becoming more wanting to be more open 192 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:15.159 to it. But I was really like trying to keep 193 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:18.480 all that, especially family stuff, like, oh, there's a lot 194 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:22.039 of trauma and my lineage on my father's side and 195 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:24.679 this is fine to share this. On my father's side, 196 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:28.480 there a Holocaust survivors. Wow, So you know there's there's 197 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:31.200 like ancestral baggage that I'm like, I don't know if 198 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:33.240 I want to open these doors. But now I'm again 199 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:35.919 feeling more ready to connect. 200 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:38.360 With Yeah, man, that's fascinating. 201 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:41.519 I was in I was staying in Southport the past 202 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:45.240 couple of days, and I there's a beautiful little cemetery there. 203 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:47.120 Do you know Southek Do you go down to Southport? 204 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:52.480 There is a beautiful little cemetery And I for three 205 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:55.480 mornings would sit in there get my coffee and sit 206 00:10:55.480 --> 00:10:58.960 in the cemetery. Wow, and it was it just felt 207 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:01.559 so good. People are so afraid of cemetery. 208 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:02.679 I love cemeteries. 209 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:06.159 Wow, it's it felt like it just felt so good 210 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:10.600 in there, and it was very obviously ancientful and yeah, 211 00:11:10.600 --> 00:11:12.320 there's a lot of peace and there's a lot of 212 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:16.840 like remembrance, Like wow, these people lived full lives and 213 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:21.240 and here they are still being acknowledged and don't just 214 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:23.360 trample on their gravesites. 215 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:27.039 Yeah, no, I fully resonate with that. I love cemeteries. 216 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:30.759 My family on my mother's side has a family cemetery 217 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:34.919 in Fairmunta, North Carolina, and I grew up playing in 218 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:37.360 that cemetery. Is where Does that sounds right? But it's not. 219 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:40.360 And it's like all my ancestors are in this cemetery, 220 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:43.639 even people I know, like like when my grandmother passes, 221 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.559 she'll be there, probably my mom and dad. And it's 222 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:48.919 like we have family reunions there every year. You've even 223 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:50.879 been to some of them. You've been in this cemetery, 224 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:52.440 you know, and like we would play in there and 225 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:54.080 it's like totally normal and it's. 226 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:57.679 Like throwing football or like yeah or something else. 227 00:11:57.759 --> 00:11:59.679 It's just like I don't know, it's just it's an 228 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:02.519 advice that I've always connected with. I've always been kind 229 00:12:02.519 --> 00:12:05.840 of fascinated with the idea of like loved ones on 230 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:08.159 the other side, you know what's beyond the veil. You know, 231 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:10.159 it's so thin, It's really so thin. 232 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:15.519 And I I've never felt weird about cemeteries. Never. Never, 233 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:19.000 even like when like when it's pitch black outside in 234 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:21.679 the middle of the night, I don't feel weird about it. 235 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:25.360 It feels like a I feel a very strong potent 236 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:29.600 energy even looking at a cemetery. I feel like a 237 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:32.879 strong spiritual energy. But it doesn't feel like scary or 238 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:34.480 it's sacred negative or but. 239 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:38.919 Yeah, yeah, yeah, burial sites should be regarded as sacred 240 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:40.559 and not scary, right, Yeah. 241 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:41.000 I agree. 242 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:43.679 I have some friends, and I mean not that I'm 243 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:45.480 like that close with or anything. I'm just heard throughout 244 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:48.159 my life some people are so superstitious about I'm like, 245 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:50.320 oh God, we're driving by a cemetary. Hold your breath, 246 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:55.240 it's why Yeah, why. 247 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:57.240 So you die? You get there sooner because you're not breathing, 248 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:57.960 you're not alive. 249 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.240 Yeah, that's gonna hant you. 250 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:02.679 Like, Yeah, what am I supposed to do. Yeah, holding 251 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:05.559 your breath makes you completely untouchable by any spirits. 252 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:08.000 I think if you're like not desecrating the place and 253 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:11.360 like graffeeding it up, that's like maybe they're happy you're visiting. 254 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:14.519 Have you guys seen the videos of the there's people 255 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:19.600 who are they're paid to clean like tombstones, gravestones, and 256 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:22.559 they'll go and while they're scrubbing them and cleaning them, 257 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:24.960 they'll have a spirit box next to them. 258 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:25.799 I haven't seen that. 259 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:26.279 You haven't. 260 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:28.279 I've seen just when they're cleaning them. I have seen 261 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:29.879 the spirit But what is the spirit box. 262 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:32.679 It's like a it's like a special it's like a 263 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:36.039 tuned radio where it flips through all of the spirit box. 264 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:40.120 Yeah yeah, yeah, of course the voices will come through 265 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:43.399 and so to see, Oh my god, what happens. 266 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:46.559 It's amazing. He'll he'll be cleaning. Uh, there's this one 267 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:49.000 guy I follow like on TikTok and Instagram and stuff, 268 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:52.120 and he'll be cleaning the headstones and stuff and they'll 269 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:55.320 be communicating and they almost always say thank you really, 270 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:58.600 and he like asks them about themselves. He's like, like, 271 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:01.720 who are you, what's your your story? And he just 272 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:04.480 talks to them while he's cleaning their headstones and stuff, 273 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:07.240 and he has a lot of the times these very deep, 274 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:11.440 like personal conversations with these spirits. 275 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:12.399 That's amazing. 276 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:15.200 It is just touching. I mean I get emotional every 277 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:15.840 time I watch it. 278 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:17.720 Does he do that for a job or is that 279 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:20.919 just something he offers to the to the land, you know. 280 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:24.039 I don't know exactly, but but it's tagged as like 281 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:28.320 professional headstone cleaner or or or something to that effect. 282 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:31.679 So like it sounds like it's his job, and I 283 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:37.159 guess somebody that's somebody's job. I guess, But but yeah, 284 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:40.840 he he communicates, uh, and it's really touching. It's like 285 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:44.399 it's really emotional a lot of the time. Yeah, sometimes 286 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:48.159 it's like you know, children and he's having he's talking 287 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:51.200 to them, and like they respond in the way that 288 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:55.039 a child would for out of this spirit box and 289 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:59.200 it's it's like, oh gosh, it's beauty. It's really beautiful. 290 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:03.120 But it just like impactful power. It hits me in 291 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:06.039 the heart. Guys, we are so excited to tell you 292 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:10.200 about our first brand deal with Stigma Hemp. We are 293 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:12.879 so pumped to be working with them. These people are amazing. 294 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:15.600 We've been working with them for a couple of months now. 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I love talking about 327 00:16:59.519 --> 00:16:59.879 like the day. 328 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:02.600 Yeah, well, you know, I actually just want I thought 329 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:04.640 of something I wanted to share. I was recently in 330 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:07.720 India and I was staying in a city called Varanasi 331 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:12.359 and the Sacred I'm sorry. The original name of Varanasi 332 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:16.119 is Banaras or Kashi, and it is the place that's 333 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:19.519 on the Ganges River where it's the most auspicious for 334 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:26.319 Hindus to be cremated. So along the rivers, along the 335 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:29.480 river side, there's what's called gods, different kind of stations 336 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:34.119 along the river. And there's the burning God where it's 337 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:37.240 stacked with wood and there's a fire that's been burning 338 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:41.160 for thousands and thousands of years that is, you know, 339 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:45.799 never never gone out, keep it going. And that's and 340 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:49.160 that's where bodies are being carried through the streets, wrapped 341 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:52.519 in white, carried, you know, and then the body is 342 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:59.799 cremated there and it it feels, I mean, it's so sacred. 343 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:02.720 We actually went and meditated in a temple that was 344 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:07.839 adjacent to the it's a Shiva temple and it's where 345 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:11.680 Shiva went and covered himself in the ash of the 346 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:14.440 cremation grounds. And we sat in that temple and that's 347 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:16.839 you know right there. The fire that's burning within that 348 00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:19.559 temple is one that's again thousands of years. It's not 349 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:22.279 where the bodies are burned, because that's just that's outside, 350 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:27.759 just beside it. But wow, talk about deep and poignant 351 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:30.960 that you know, we we are just going to turn 352 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:34.319 to ash one day or back into soil, you know, 353 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:38.559 and and celebrate this life force that we have right now. 354 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:41.079 And that's all it is is the breath. So don't 355 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:48.640 hold your breath. 356 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:57.680 That's that's brilliant though. And and I'm glad you're naturally 357 00:18:57.680 --> 00:18:59.599 brought this up because at lunch we were talking about 358 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:01.519 this and I kind of explained to you there it's like, oh, 359 00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:03.480 I'm afraid to ask you certain questions because we're about 360 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:05.720 to record. But I'm glad you called back to this 361 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:08.279 as well. So you're telling me this story, right, I 362 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:10.160 thought at lunch, but I didn't ask it because I 363 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:13.000 was saving it for the podcast. So you're telling me 364 00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:15.759 that Shiva went there, and remind me what Shiva did. 365 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:17.200 He covered himself in ash or he burned. 366 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:19.279 Yeah, And I don't want to miss I don't want 367 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:21.559 to misquote the story, so I'm I'm. 368 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:22.079 The cliff notes. 369 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:25.359 Yeah, the cliff notes is that he, yes, he covered 370 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:28.640 himself in the sacred ash of the you know, from 371 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:31.799 the bodies that were burned and was you know, went 372 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:36.319 into deep meditation for whatever period of time. So there's 373 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:38.680 many of the you know, the the sawdows that you 374 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:42.599 see images of these you know, holy men with dreadlocks 375 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:45.599 and they're covered, they're naked and covered in ash. Yeah 376 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:49.079 they are. You know, that is in line with what 377 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:51.920 Shiva's practice was. And it's a way to kind of 378 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:55.000 your renouncing everything of the world. You don't need anything, 379 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:58.039 you don't need clothes, you don't need stuff. It's asthetic 380 00:19:58.279 --> 00:20:02.720 and exactly and you and the ash is to remind 381 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:07.640 us that we will turn to ash. So it's you know, 382 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:10.000 it's like a kind of a link between this world 383 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:13.680 and that. And I'm probably butchering it a little bit, 384 00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:17.640 but you know, you know, Shiva. I very much connect 385 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:20.400 with Shiva. But I'm also I'm not like a Hindu. 386 00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:23.640 I can't say I'm a Hindu, but I definitely have 387 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:29.319 a connection with all things Shiva, the dance of life, 388 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:34.960 you know, the kind of deep rooted, kind of meditative state. 389 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:37.920 So then the thing I have two things to say 390 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:40.920 about that. The first thing is if you're not following 391 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:42.920 this person, you should be. His name is Dakota Wind. 392 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:44.119 Have you heard of him? 393 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:47.519 Is Dakota? And then like wont he is like of 394 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:49.559 all the people in the world, he is one of 395 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:52.480 my Like he's a top five I want him on 396 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:54.599 the show. I want to meet this guy. He this 397 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:57.480 is all he does. He used to be a YouTuber, 398 00:20:58.119 --> 00:21:01.960 ordinary YouTuber like blog videos but whatever, vlog and somehow 399 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:04.359 or another, his content shifted to where he's like an 400 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:06.880 ascetic in India traveling with these people and like he 401 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:10.279 lives with them, and you know, he's like going into 402 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:13.640 uh hanging out with the cannibal tribes and like and 403 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:15.680 like being yes. 404 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:17.359 Oh yeah, I got to I got to hang with 405 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:21.000 some Agoris. I mean, yeah, I was at the Kumbamela 406 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:23.240 and the Agoris are there and you know, and and 407 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:26.960 I got to sit with some It's pretty cool. 408 00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:29.680 Yeah, So enough about him. I just wanted to. 409 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:31.759 Put yeah, yeah, I get to remember that. 410 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:33.839 And then the second thing I can remind you later. Yeah, 411 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.440 very cool content. But the second thing is, so when 412 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:40.279 you're telling me Shiva went and meditated at this temple, 413 00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:45.759 I have a two sided question. Is this literal? Is 414 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:49.440 this metaphorical, mythological, whatever? Like, is the idea that this 415 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:53.400 really happened, that there was a man many thousands of 416 00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:56.039 years ago who did this and thus this legend was born, 417 00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:58.160 or is it more so like there's a parable or 418 00:21:58.200 --> 00:22:01.960 a metaphor within this story, you know, like like how 419 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:03.279 is this taught? 420 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:05.079 You know? Who you need to get on the show. 421 00:22:05.079 --> 00:22:07.640 Who would be able to answer all these questions enlighten 422 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:13.799 me is Robert's Forboda, Doctor Roberts Forboda. He's a scholar 423 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:17.680 of aria Veda and all things this a gory and 424 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:19.440 and he would be the one to answer that. I'm 425 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:21.079 not even going to try to get near that, but 426 00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:22.680 I do know him. 427 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.400 Oh cool, yeah, lick us up. Yeah. 428 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:33.200 But yeah, you know, energetically it's very much real. So 429 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:37.559 whether it was just like Jesus right, one guy or 430 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:41.000 or exactly was it one person or was it a 431 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:46.640 collective Shakespeare, a collective of humans who were following the 432 00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:50.839 same belief and you know, and that energy carried forth yea, who. 433 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:54.519 Does Yeah, that's an amazing answer. It doesn't matter if 434 00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:57.039 the person literally did it. The energy in the message 435 00:22:57.079 --> 00:22:58.680 is real. And that's why I wanted to ask. I 436 00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:02.519 wanted to clarify are the people who practice this actually teaching, 437 00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:04.680 because you know, people are like, hey, this really happened 438 00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:07.039 this sacred site or is it like you get with 439 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:09.119 these masters or these yogis or whatever, and they're like, 440 00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:11.400 it didn't actually happen, but you know, it's the message, 441 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:13.400 you know what I mean, It's kind of where I wanted. 442 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:15.559 The Yeah, I don't yeah, I mean, it's just one 443 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:18.119 of those. It was one of those places where as 444 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:23.359 soon as you enter, you know like this is powerful. Yeah, 445 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:26.759 whatever is happening here, whatever has happened here for thousands 446 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:31.680 of years, And I feel this collective kind of I 447 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:35.400 feel the pull. Yeah, this is real. 448 00:23:35.880 --> 00:23:39.160 I think so often these stories and stuff they are 449 00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:43.720 maybe they are metaphorical, you know, maybe they didn't literally happen. 450 00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:46.279 But I feel like a lot of the energy is 451 00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:51.039 in the mystery. Yes, it's like yes, when it's revealed, 452 00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:55.400 maybe the energy is not so potent. Maybe that's why 453 00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:59.680 all these mystery traditions, they are so clandestine and they 454 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:02.279 do things kind of in the dark a little bit, 455 00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:04.839 and they keep you know, they keep the very very 456 00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:09.000 the exclusive information. They keep that, you know, hidden a 457 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:11.839 little bit, because it's like if we give it all away, 458 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:15.000 there's no mystery whatsoever, and then maybe the belief isn't there. 459 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:16.839 What do you have to learn exactly? 460 00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:21.000 And I also think that the masses wouldn't necessarily be 461 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:24.720 able to handle that energy. You know, it's like it's 462 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:28.440 it's what I experienced when I again, I was telling 463 00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:32.759 Ryan earlier about being at another very sacred Shiva tempo. 464 00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:35.559 This one was called Kadarnath on the top of the 465 00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:39.640 mount on the top of the Hamalias, and that energy 466 00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:43.720 was so powerful, but you could see that people were 467 00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:50.720 kind of not going crazy. Energy is so amped up, 468 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:55.279 it's so so powerful that people get we're getting kind 469 00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:57.839 of aggressive to get in, to get in, to get 470 00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:00.640 near the moor, to get into the inner sanct that 471 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:04.440 there's this like hyper energy. And and I've seen it in 472 00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:07.799 other powerful temples in India where people are like, you know, 473 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:10.079 they've been waiting in line and they've made this voyage 474 00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:12.039 to get there, and then by the time they're getting 475 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:15.640 close to the inner sanctum, they're almost like vibrating with 476 00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:22.640 this frenetic and and I see it outside. I see 477 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:25.759 the people people like that are having those kind of 478 00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:31.079 reactions and for me instead, I go so still like 479 00:25:31.400 --> 00:25:34.960 so because it's also to not get swept up in 480 00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:39.359 that wild energy. So again, people are going to react 481 00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:42.920 to these like energies in different ways, and for a 482 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:47.200 lot of people it might take them off their rocker. Literally. 483 00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:51.440 Yeah, I think it. Yeah, that that like desperation, that 484 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:54.400 like you need to have the exact thing that you're 485 00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:54.880 there for. 486 00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.759 It's like waiting in line at Disney World, like I 487 00:25:58.079 --> 00:25:59.200 need to get into the temple. Like. 488 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:02.640 It also kind of in a way reminds me of 489 00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:04.000 the UFO phenomenon. 490 00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:05.759 Yeah I was I wasn't gonna say it, but it's 491 00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:08.200 like people being like all you know, thousands of people 492 00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:12.400 being like I'm passing through, I want a SkyWatch with you, 493 00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:12.880 and it's like. 494 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:15.960 Yeah, like the but like I mean more so like 495 00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:19.400 the desperation of like I need it, I need to 496 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:21.960 see it. Yeah, I have to, Like every fiber of 497 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:25.039 my being is dedicated to I just I need to 498 00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:27.799 experience this. I need to be here and see this 499 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:30.279 and do this. Like there's a lot of that in 500 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:31.920 the the UFO community. 501 00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:36.240 Well that's interesting because I had to really you know, 502 00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:40.720 coming here, I'm obviously have a level of excitement, anticipation 503 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:47.960 and desire, you know, to see what you've seen and 504 00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:51.319 what I believe I've seen, but I'm not so sure. 505 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:58.079 And and then I'm also really like kind of I 506 00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:00.720 don't want my expectations to be too high, Like I've 507 00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:03.319 got to like really like I'm like, you know, it 508 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:05.680 is what it is, It's going to be what it's 509 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:08.200 going to be, And I don't want to want it 510 00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:10.720 so bad that I'm going to be like kind of 511 00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:13.319 you know, my desire pushing the thing away. 512 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:15.599 Yeah, but most people aren't even conscious of that. 513 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.559 Yeah, you're on the right path. Well, I've been praying 514 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:21.960 a lot for you know, just I shall see what 515 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:24.319 I shall see and thank you in advance. 516 00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:25.319 That's beautiful. 517 00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:27.319 Did you guys already talk about this. 518 00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:30.960 Now that you've seen maybe on the phone when I 519 00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:33.960 let's assume we have not because they have not. 520 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:37.200 Yeah. Well, you know, I don't know if I even 521 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:39.720 told you Ryan about this when we had the fires 522 00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:40.599 in La you know. 523 00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:42.880 Oh yeah, and I don't think we've talked. You know, 524 00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:45.599 I didn't tell you this before Christmas. 525 00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:49.839 Well, now let me backtrack. So the way that I 526 00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:51.960 want to tell you, the way I came to the 527 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:56.640 to learn about the blood so cool, which is you know, 528 00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:02.160 really kind of foundational for me, like really wanting to 529 00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:08.039 have a deeper experience and understanding of this world. A 530 00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:09.960 few months back, a friend of mine was staying at 531 00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:15.400 my house in LA and she had she's very spiritual, 532 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:19.359 she's a past life regressionist and you know, one of 533 00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:24.279 my sisters, spiritual sisters, and she went had a feeling 534 00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:26.519 to go out on the onto the deck two in 535 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:29.440 the afternoon, beautiful sunny La day. I live in a 536 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:32.240 canyon and had a feeling to go out on the deck. 537 00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:35.640 Some something was pulling her to go out there. And 538 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.519 in the sky two in the afternoon she saw nine 539 00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:42.799 orbs in La in La. This is the canyon by 540 00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:48.039 the Hollywood sign recently in October October, and she ran 541 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:50.839 inside to grab her phone, you know, to get the video. 542 00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:53.759 Everyone wants the video. And when she got back out, 543 00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:57.480 I think there were maybe four left, not the nine. 544 00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:01.920 She got them on video. And so when I got 545 00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:04.839 back into town, she showed me and told me, and 546 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:10.200 I'm like, wow, here they're here. And that led me 547 00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:14.640 to wanting to understand, well, what are these orbs? And 548 00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:20.039 I want orbs? I want to and and that led 549 00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:22.920 me to you know, you do you type a Google 550 00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.720 search of orbs and Chris Bledsoe's name comes up right 551 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:29.160 at the top. So that led me to, you know, 552 00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:33.519 listening to a lot of podcasts and you know, his story, 553 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:37.640 and then reading the book and then getting to Ryan 554 00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:44.440 and you guys through Hannah and and Meghan because Hannah 555 00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:47.559 was interviewing Meghan. So that was Actually that was a 556 00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:51.599 side note I was interested in. I wanted to know 557 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:56.160 more about dowsing, and you know, Hannah, sorry, Megan, solar 558 00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:59.119 glow kept coming up on my feed, I you know, 559 00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:01.400 and one of the it was like it was just 560 00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:03.759 being fed to me. I didn't ask for it. And 561 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.680 then I'm like, what did she? And then of course 562 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:09.960 I follow and then and then I'm like, I want 563 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:13.480 to know more about this dousing thing. And so I 564 00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:16.519 did a Google search of her for podcasts that she 565 00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.359 was on and the one I found was Hannah's podcast 566 00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:27.079 and they were talking about the blood and and and 567 00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:30.039 I'm like, wait a minute, that name. And then I 568 00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.240 realized it was the same thing that i'd been looking 569 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:36.480 into on the other track that I was also looking into, 570 00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:39.559 which is the ORB track. And then it all came together. 571 00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:42.720 And then I reached out to Ryan because I had 572 00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:45.640 an interesting story with space that I was renting in 573 00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:50.160 Hollywood that was a Theosophy It was originally built as 574 00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:55.480 a Theosophy utopian community. Yeah that's a whole I don't 575 00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:58.119 know if we're going to get into that. Yeah what 576 00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:02.960 And and the space that I was renting looked like 577 00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:05.839 a spaceship. It was a dome. It's a domed It 578 00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:09.279 was the dome meditation room for the Theosophus Utopian community 579 00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:12.519 called Kratona that was built in nineteen twelve, and it 580 00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:16.400 was the room that they would do their They called 581 00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:19.880 it the charge meditation room. But it's a sound healing chamber. 582 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:25.839 And you know how certain domes when they're built, you 583 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:29.599 know with a real intention, there's a kind of a 584 00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:32.759 sound encapsulation that happens through the center of a dome. 585 00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:36.160 Have you ever experienced that? The integratron out in the 586 00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:39.039 desert is a place where you can really experience it, 587 00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:46.400 But it's it's when it's aligned perfectly geometrically, are architecturally aligned, 588 00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:48.559 sound encapsulates in the center of. 589 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:51.599 The Yeah, the resonant frequency like goes straight down the 590 00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:52.000 middle of. 591 00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:55.359 The cathedrals, I guess, yeah, if. 592 00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:58.559 The cathedral is built in the exact dome, then yeah, 593 00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:01.480 you stand right in the middle, and the resonant frequency 594 00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:04.960 of the room, you can like hear it without anything happening, 595 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.279 even in the room. It could be silent in the 596 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.680 room and you stand there and if you pay attention, 597 00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:11.519 you can hear the resonant frequency. 598 00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:15.119 And then also when you're like vocalizing when you walk through. 599 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:18.359 That's the center of that dome. The sound changes in 600 00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:22.599 the center point. It like the pitch changes, and it's 601 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.240 all it's for sound work. It's for sound healing work. 602 00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:28.960 And that's so. So that room was that apartment was 603 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:33.000 somewhere I was renting, and I it was the altar room. 604 00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:36.279 So it was a it's a perfectly aligned like alter 605 00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:40.640 space where the altars on the east due east, and 606 00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:43.759 on the west is water. You know, this is when 607 00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:47.960 you're doing elemental magic. You know, you own some practices. 608 00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:51.640 Airs the east, the south is fire water in the 609 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:57.400 west and in the north is earth. So the Mountain 610 00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:00.680 of Hollywood, that where the Hollywood sign is, that mountain 611 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:02.400 is right on the north side. 612 00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:03.039 Wow. 613 00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:07.559 So they built this very intentionally. There's a water pond 614 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:11.880 on the west part, just the opposite the altar on 615 00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.920 the east wall. It's hard to describe. It's a lot. 616 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.359 No, that's that's extremely fascinating, And I didn't know that. 617 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:19.279 So I'm going to say this real quick. I was 618 00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.279 looking one seventy one. Episode one seventy one was Hannah. 619 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:24.039 Episode one a one was Megan. These are the two 620 00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.400 individuals they've been on our show, Lovely Lovely People, and 621 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.160 Patty came to us through them. It's crazy synchronicity in 622 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:34.319 and of itself. But anyway, so back to the to 623 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.559 the Dome. Are you willing to go into like how 624 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.000 the Theosophists found We don't have to go all into 625 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:41.599 the history and all that if it's too much, but 626 00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:43.680 how they found it with the dowsing rods. 627 00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:47.640 And yeah, the story what I'm what I've come to 628 00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:51.960 learn is that the Theosophists were looking to create a 629 00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:57.720 utopian community based on Pythagorean kind of principles in America. 630 00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:00.720 They had their ashram in Adjar in India. Now this 631 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:03.319 is in the nineteen this is like nineteen oh six, 632 00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:05.799 when they decided they wanted to set out and find 633 00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:09.840 a plot of land in America to build this community 634 00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:13.039 which would be about communal living. This kind of intersection 635 00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:17.360 between art and spirituality and vegetarianism was a part of it. 636 00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:22.360 So they spent six years using dousing rods to find 637 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:26.239 the right spot to build this in the Western States, 638 00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:31.679 so Arizona, New Mexico, up and down California. Blovotsky, apparently 639 00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:37.599 Madam Blovotsky, had had a prophecy that the western coast 640 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:43.239 of America, maybe California specifically, would be where kind of 641 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:47.239 the new spirituality would would take would flourish in America. 642 00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:50.960 Did she She did, so that's why they were focusing 643 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:55.599 on the Western States. And when they got to this 644 00:34:55.880 --> 00:35:00.280 piece of land in Los Angeles, Los Angele was a 645 00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:05.119 Los Angeles the it was all a farmland, orange groves 646 00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:07.880 and there was the mountain there which again the Hollywood 647 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:11.000 sign is there. Now it was all orange groves. The 648 00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:15.920 dowsing rods went off, so they found water, they found energy, 649 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:17.159 they found they. 650 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:24.360 Were searching for a place of spiritual significant with the dowsing. 651 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.559 Rods, yeah, to give them the kind of sign that 652 00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:27.800 this is the place. And it turns out that that 653 00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.199 piece of land was sacred, a sacred site to the 654 00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:36.000 Tonga tribe, which is the indigenous people of that area California. 655 00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.440 And when you know the way that it's like at 656 00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:41.679 the base of the mountain, you know, the mountains just 657 00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:44.599 kind of like protecting it over and it's this flat 658 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.840 area death. They built their community and that was called Kratona, 659 00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:54.840 which is based on again a Pythagoa and concept croton 660 00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:59.440 I think is the was the pythagora and kind of community. Yeah, 661 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:03.360 I think yeah, because I think it's about cr Yeah whatever. 662 00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:05.360 I feel like a bad Greek. I don't know enough 663 00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:07.880 about pythagorasts. I got to do my research. 664 00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:10.159 I don't either. But he seemed like a cool dude. 665 00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:12.679 Oh yeah, yeah he was a true sage. 666 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:14.679 Yes, a thousand percent he was. 667 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:17.800 Yeah, he traveled to India and all these places, Persia, 668 00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:20.360 Egypt and kind of kind of like what Jesus did, 669 00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:24.159 the real gyes, not the corporate version, and mastered all 670 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:26.159 these different disciplines and brought them back and then he 671 00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:29.000 you know, created his society, and you know, he's like 672 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:32.519 basically the father of sacred geometry before Plato. 673 00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:35.400 Those things. I'd pretty sure I do know, But as 674 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:39.280 a as a Greek man who is also fascinated in metaphysics, 675 00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:43.440 I'm like, I should probably know more about pythagorasts. I 676 00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.599 should probably like, I feel like I should be the expert, 677 00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:46.840 but I'm absolutely not. 678 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:49.840 Dude, you would love We're going to segue into something. 679 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:53.119 Yeah, well, I just want to say sacred geometry. You know, 680 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:59.960 the dome space was is exactly built with sacred geometry, 681 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.119 and like the room at the meditation room folds into 682 00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.599 a box, like if you understand kind of geometry, the 683 00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:10.960 way that the dome and the wings of it, the 684 00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:14.239 all of the dimensions. My friends that are understand this stuff, 685 00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:17.079 they're like, this is a box, and I'm like, I 686 00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:20.840 don't understand. I don't see it, but it is that 687 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:23.639 it's you know, if it's the geometry. 688 00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.760 If it's like a six sided box, I don't know 689 00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:28.679 what the building looks like, but that is also a 690 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:32.119 cross when you unfold. Oh yeah, a six sided box. 691 00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:37.199 It's it's the wings, the wings and the yeah, I don't. 692 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:39.679 Yeah, bottom part is the one that folds, and it's 693 00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:42.719 longer than the other parts. So yeah, that's. 694 00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:44.719 Kind of I googled Krotona. The first thing that pops 695 00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:47.639 up is Pathetoro's oh yeah, just looking for a picture 696 00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:47.920 of it. 697 00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:53.119 Krotona k r O t o n a Kurowtona of 698 00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:55.320 old Hollywood or yeah, and. 699 00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:57.119 So it's obviously not that anymore. 700 00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.840 No, it was. It was there. It was the Theos 701 00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:04.400 kind of you know, stomping ground for a dozen ten 702 00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.480 or a dozen years, and then they moved to OHI. 703 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:10.000 Yeah, it's right, under the Hollywood sign. Yeah, beautiful, this 704 00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:12.400 is good. I told the dome. 705 00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:13.480 Wow. 706 00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:14.480 Oh can you see the dome? 707 00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:17.360 It's a pixel picture, yeah, but I see it. Yeah. 708 00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:22.000 So they were there until like nineteen yeah, nineteen twenty four, 709 00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.519 twenty six, I remember, And then they went up to Ohai, 710 00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:30.280 California for various reasons. I guess they Hollywood was starting 711 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:35.000 to become Hollywood Silent Film r was coming in. Maybe 712 00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:38.800 they wanted you know, greener pastures. Krishna Morti at that 713 00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:40.960 time it was the you know, kind of spiritual head 714 00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:44.159 of the of the group. He liked. He preferred o 715 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:48.280 Hi area, and Oahi is also very powerful kind of 716 00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:51.440 energy place. Really, So then they went up there, and 717 00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:55.679 then the building was sold to this man called Rupert 718 00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:58.840 Julian who was a film director and actor and he 719 00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:03.559 directed Phantom of the Opera Oh no way yeah, And 720 00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:06.800 so then he made it into this like new Hollywood, 721 00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:12.239 it's silent film era twenties or mid twenties, and it 722 00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:16.039 was like a flophouse for all the like cool Hollywood 723 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:21.760 weirdos and so literally magic was happening there through film, 724 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:27.280 you know, early cinema, you know, dance and the art. 725 00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:29.159 But also the literal magic. 726 00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:31.920 And literal magic. I mean there's no you know, you 727 00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:36.119 can't really find much kind of recorded history. But apparently 728 00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:40.800 Charlie Chaplin might have lived in the Dome or he well, 729 00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:45.199 his house was built by one of the main people 730 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:48.199 in the Theosophy community. His house was being built up 731 00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:50.320 the hill, so he lived there while his house was 732 00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:54.920 being built. But I kind of feel like there was 733 00:39:55.000 --> 00:40:00.239 some interesting darker arts that were being practiced in those 734 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:03.159 spaces once the Theosophus left. 735 00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:05.199 That's so fascinating. 736 00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:06.400 Is the building still there? 737 00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.880 The building's still there. Yeah, So then it's been apartments 738 00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:09.800 since the thirties. 739 00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:10.280 Wow. 740 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:14.239 And the current owner has had it since the late seventies. 741 00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:18.199 There was the whole sixties period where like Jimmy Hendrix's 742 00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:22.679 bass player lived in the Dome and like there would 743 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:28.719 be like these wild parties, acid dropping parties at Kratona. 744 00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.480 Kratona's kind of like been notorious for, like you know, 745 00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:34.920 like it's a sceney place and it's been owned by 746 00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.079 this man who took it over in the late seventies. 747 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:42.039 Apparently it was pretty trashed by the sixties wildness and 748 00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:43.480 he has owned. 749 00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:43.880 It ever since. 750 00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:44.559 Wow. 751 00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:47.599 And he still continues to own it, own it. And 752 00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:51.199 then I kind of stumbled it literally fell in my 753 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.639 lap like a big orb that bluffed in my lap. 754 00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:59.000 And then it is well, that dome is an orb. 755 00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:01.679 I mean, it's a spaceship. And you know, I'll show 756 00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:04.199 you some pictures where when I would I had the 757 00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:09.199 dome gold leafed. I restored it because no one else 758 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:11.199 was going to do it. It was crumbling when I 759 00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:14.360 got it and growing in it and stuff, Yeah, vine's 760 00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:21.599 growing in it. It's a literally literally and I just 761 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:24.239 knew that it was a sacred space that needed to 762 00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:28.960 be paid attention to. So I cleaned it with my 763 00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:32.679 bare hands and brought in my friends who were at 764 00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:36.320 that time out of work because of various Hollywood strikes. 765 00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:42.159 So I have a brilliant production designer friend who had 766 00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:45.119 a vision that we should gold leaf the dome and 767 00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:48.000 I was like, ah, that sounds expensive and scary, and 768 00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:50.400 you know, but her friends, her her husband, and his 769 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.360 friends were out of work, so it was like for 770 00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:59.199 them it was like an art project and it needed it, 771 00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.960 and you know, and I desperately knew that the space 772 00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:08.719 needed to be reawakened and enlivened and and then I 773 00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:11.880 saw that the buildings all around were crumbling, and I 774 00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:16.960 really couldn't understand why the buildings were not historical landmarks 775 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:21.360 because they are the most historically relevant buildings in Hollywood. 776 00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:24.239 The original it is the original building. I mean before 777 00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:26.719 the Hollywood sign was there, Before it was Hollywood, it 778 00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:32.679 was Kretona. So then I you know, it's a long story, 779 00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:35.000 but to make it short, I got in touch with 780 00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:39.199 LA Conservancy and they took on the project to work 781 00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:46.960 to have it registered historical landmark through the city and. 782 00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:49.079 So then they could never knock it down. 783 00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:51.519 It can't get knocked down now. And now it has 784 00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:53.800 to be taken care of and unless, you know, unless 785 00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:56.519 an act of nature knocks it down. But it can't 786 00:42:56.559 --> 00:43:00.159 be knocked down because of you know, someone deciding to 787 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:01.480 build a high rise or something. 788 00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:05.559 Wow, that's amazing, that's incredible. I'd love to see that 789 00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:06.320 place in person. 790 00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:10.559 Yeah. Sure, Well it's it's apartment buildings. So even me 791 00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:13.880 talking about it here, like all you guys out there, 792 00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:17.039 you can't go see it. It's a it's an apartment complex. 793 00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:21.000 But you can kind of walk past it and give 794 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:24.719 a little bow and understand the history. But I'll show 795 00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:25.519 you guys some picture. 796 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:28.840 Yes, I would love to see. And I wanted to 797 00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.039 breeze by this real quick because there's this theme of 798 00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:33.440 like Manly P. Hall between us, right, so you're. 799 00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.280 Okay yea, yeah, yeah, And you know, like this whole 800 00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:41.880 area of Los Angeles, Beechwood Canyon where Kratona is. There's 801 00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.719 also the Verdonta Center there, and just down the road 802 00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:49.000 is Manly P. Hall's uh Philosophical Research Society. It's all 803 00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:51.239 within like a couple miles of each other. It's because 804 00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:55.440 this area is literally like the it's a portal, it's 805 00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:56.400 a spiritual portal. 806 00:43:56.519 --> 00:43:59.920 It could all of those things congregate into that one 807 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:00.840 area exactly. 808 00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:05.760 Yeah. Well, because because there is an incredible, incredible deep 809 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:08.199 energy and it goes back to you know, kind of 810 00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:12.000 indigenous land stuff and beyond who knows what else. 811 00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:14.119 Ye of course, for sure, it's ancient lands, it has 812 00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:16.039 to been. I mean, it's all ancient land, right, but 813 00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:18.280 like there's probably was some stuff going on there with 814 00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:22.400 people's from aon's ago, maybe some sort of work, maybe atlantis, 815 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:26.800 who knows, but yeah, I mean people obviously it's like 816 00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:28.800 kind of an open secret, but not even a really 817 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:31.320 a secret anymore that like so much dark stuff goes 818 00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:33.480 on in LA But we were talking about this. I 819 00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:36.519 firmly believe this, and I especially realized this when I 820 00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.599 just went to Amsterdam this this last year. I went 821 00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:42.239 to Amsterdam and experienced three days there and there was 822 00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:46.280 this incredible feeling, and I learned so much about Amsterdam's 823 00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.079 esoteric history. It's known as like the esoteric capital of 824 00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:53.960 the world. Really, yes, because in the in the like 825 00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:57.880 maybe the seventeen hundreds or even earlier, like the fourteen hundreds, 826 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:03.760 when the Church was killing the heretics, right so to speak. 827 00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.079 By the way, excellent movie. If you haven't seen it, Heretic, 828 00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:12.199 the new one, watch it. Oh well, I mean there's 829 00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:15.159 a movie called The Heretic that's not related. I'm saying. 830 00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:18.400 I know that, the one with Pierce Hugh Grant. Huge. 831 00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:23.440 Yeah, yeah, British guys, right, But no, But anyway, excellent movie. 832 00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:25.280 I'm gonna move past that when we talk about it later. 833 00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:29.039 But when the Church was crashing down on the heretics 834 00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:33.559 who were preaching things outside of doctrines, such as you know, 835 00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:37.119 the Templar Knights, the Rosicrucians. Even later, the Freemasons, all 836 00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:39.519 these different societies. There's so many more that I probably missed, 837 00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:42.639 you know, the Knights of Malta. There's so many different 838 00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:47.760 societies that were like being persecuted. Her Meticism, theosophy missed 839 00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:50.400 that wave because it was in the eighteen hundreds, you know, 840 00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:52.960 and in the I guess the industrial era, where the 841 00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:56.239 Church wasn't burning people anymore, right, But when that was 842 00:45:56.320 --> 00:46:01.800 going on in medieval times, people would take these sacred scrolls, 843 00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:07.639 Pythagorean mystery texts, you know, Plato readings, Hermetic philosophy, magical 844 00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:12.079 papyrie from Greece, you name it, alchemical writings of Hoenheim 845 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:14.599 or Paracelsus. They would take these scrolls and they would 846 00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:17.760 flee to the Netherlands because the Netherlands was a place 847 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.639 where you could come and you could be safe from 848 00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:22.440 the persecution of the church, and there was this. 849 00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:25.079 And then there was a lot of waterways ways to 850 00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:25.360 get in. 851 00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:31.400 Yeah, and Amsterdam or rather the Netherlands has always had 852 00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:35.360 this sort of philosophical open mindedness to it culturally and 853 00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:38.920 as a country, so like it just became a thing 854 00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:42.679 where alchemists and philosophers and magicians and wizards or whoever 855 00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.920 would would flee to the Netherlands for protection. So a 856 00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:54.639 massive wealth of books and texts and and famous famous 857 00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:59.480 names have over time settled there. Right. So there's a 858 00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:03.920 library in Amsterdam called the I can't think of the name. 859 00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:07.360 It's like the I'll have to look at it later. 860 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:11.440 I've been there and and it's like the largest esoteric 861 00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:13.440 library in the world. There's like thirty thousand books. 862 00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:15.880 Isn't it like the Library of the Mind or. 863 00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.719 Something, Embassy of the Free Mind Embassy, yes, the Embassy 864 00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:21.679 of the Free Yeah, that was a good lay up there, 865 00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:23.400 but the Embassy of the Free Mind. So my whole 866 00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:26.480 point is that that I've been there and and and then. 867 00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:31.840 The PRS is the Philosophical Research Society, is the largest 868 00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:34.400 collection of esoteric books in America. 869 00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:35.719 In America, yes, yeah. 870 00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.719 That Manly Hall collected over you know, the course of 871 00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:41.800 his kind of travels and career, and it's got some 872 00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:45.239 of the most rare kind of books you know in America. 873 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:48.559 For America, you know Pristly in the UK and now 874 00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:52.159 I know Amsterdam, but for America, this this library that 875 00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:54.480 you can go visit and. 876 00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:56.480 Then two days a week, and that's the one that's 877 00:47:56.559 --> 00:47:57.960 right around the corner, from right. 878 00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:00.400 Around the corner, from from down from Kurtuna. It's it's 879 00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:03.800 it's in what's called Los Filas, and it's literally hiding 880 00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:05.199 in plain sight. And Manly P. 881 00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:06.360 Hall started it. 882 00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:08.840 He started it, and it's almost it'll be one hundred 883 00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:13.840 years in nineteen thirty, in twenty thirty something. Wow. But 884 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:19.079 it's a vibrant, vibrant community now with Like my husband 885 00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:22.559 saw a film last night on Nina Simone, and there's 886 00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:24.599 a film next week that we're going to go see 887 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:26.360 on Maria Sabina. 888 00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:28.400 You know who is the I've heard the name of. 889 00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:33.960 You know, she's like the she's the shaman master from 890 00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:37.199 Where's Maria Sabina from? Help? 891 00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:40.960 I know Nina Simone? 892 00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:45.519 Yeah, No, Maria is like the woman the mushroom guru 893 00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:47.079 who like them. 894 00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:49.760 The South America would have South America. I know you're 895 00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:51.639 talking about. I've seen this in the documentary. Yeah, so 896 00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.599 they're showing that this is how mushrooms became to the world. 897 00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:57.800 Yes, this is they're showing that documentary next week. And 898 00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:02.639 then you can also hear music performances, yeah, art performances. 899 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:07.400 There's the spectrovision guys, will tape some of their podcasts 900 00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:09.039 episodes there. 901 00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:11.400 I've got to get there, yeah, yeah, to get dark. 902 00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:13.920 Oh, I'm so excited for you guys to be there. 903 00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:16.480 I am so oh. This is why I even brought 904 00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:19.519 this up, because you know, I just wanted to say 905 00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:22.280 that after going to answer in myself and being enriched 906 00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:24.920 in the esoteric history of the alchemy and all that stuff. 907 00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:28.320 But then also, what else is it known for rights 908 00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:35.920 and prostitutions? Yes, course a lot of very you know, 909 00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.199 dark stuff. Yeah, but so it's like exactly that's That's 910 00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:42.559 exactly what I'm getting at. Where there is this dark, 911 00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.119 there is also this light. And I think that people 912 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.360 get too hung up on the dark of things, you know, 913 00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:50.360 and like la has as, we could imagine a lot 914 00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:52.599 of light too, I mean a lot of good things 915 00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:54.800 to offer to the world. And there has to be 916 00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:57.800 some sort of circling back way now, like way far now, 917 00:49:57.840 --> 00:49:59.639 But there has to be some sort of vortex here 918 00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:03.800 where you know, there's this powerful like gravitational pool. For 919 00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:06.719 I fill a pool there, not to move there or 920 00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:09.000 anything like that. But I have so many friends there now, 921 00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:11.400 you and so many other people that I'm like dying 922 00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:13.599 for a trip to La I really want to go. 923 00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:15.800 But even that thing of like you know, the kind 924 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:18.920 of the light and the dark forces, we all carry 925 00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:22.880 that within ourselves. So you can't only ascend to light 926 00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:27.760 spaces if you don't also pay attention to what's below 927 00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:31.239 with the darkness. So that's where shadow work comes into play. 928 00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:34.519 You cannot have just ascension if you don't do shadow work. 929 00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:39.559 So that's like, you know, and that's like we are portals. 930 00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:43.199 Each of us is a portal. Portal places on the 931 00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:47.480 planet will attract those like extreme highs, extreme depths, but 932 00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:52.039 we too have to find the balance between those spaces. 933 00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:54.639 You can't have one without the other, you can't. It 934 00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:56.280 just doesn't at That's what balance is. 935 00:50:56.440 --> 00:51:00.440 That's where the whole like, you know, finding balance, center 936 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:03.480 of the light in the dark. You know, it's that 937 00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:05.039 middle point. 938 00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:10.800 Do your resonent tuning people. But no, that's very powerfully said. 939 00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:13.199 And like maybe this is something you might not be 940 00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.760 aware of yet, Patty, but or maybe maybe you've heard 941 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:17.960 so many podcasts about us by now that you're an expert. 942 00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:19.480 I don't know, but I'm just going to assume we're 943 00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.320 is square one, right, And like in the eighteen years 944 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.039 of us doing this thing, and the orbs and all 945 00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:28.320 the investigations and the government researching us, and you know, 946 00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:30.440 millions of people around the world finding out about us 947 00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:34.440 and writing to us. We have had more people than 948 00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:38.599 one could compute that that have reached out to us 949 00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:43.280 over time. It happens daily. You're exhibiting, You're sitting around here. 950 00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.599 You know, I reached out and there are so many 951 00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:50.519 everyday people you know, from all over the world reaching 952 00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:52.519 out and they're saying, I saw an ORB, I saw 953 00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:54.880 an ORB, I saw an ORB. And my dad for 954 00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:59.119 eighteen years, he still does this. He's always said, that's great. 955 00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:03.960 What's going on in your life? Trauma? The answer is 956 00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:06.719 one hundred percent of the time, it's trauma. If you 957 00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:10.079 see the orbs, I mean yes, because the thing is 958 00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:10.880 like if. 959 00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:14.119 They just appear to you, you know, because there's people 960 00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:16.639 that will come and see us, and we'll have two 961 00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:17.280 hundred people. 962 00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.239 Yeah, that's different, I'm saying. I'm saying, and times are 963 00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:20.719 different now. 964 00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:21.679 They come unprompted. 965 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.199 We're in the age of Aquarius now, where I firmly 966 00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:27.239 believe this. I firmly believe that we are now in 967 00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:29.239 the age of Aquarius. And it's like the kind of 968 00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:31.400 thing where it's going to unfold for everybody on a 969 00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:35.239 mass scale. But it wasn't always like that. For eighteen years, 970 00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:38.400 you know, ten years ago, three years ago, it was 971 00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:40.280 still like I want to see, I want to see. 972 00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:42.960 People would pay their life savings and donate a leg 973 00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:45.400 to see an ORB and you know, it's like there 974 00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.320 really were a small group of people in the world 975 00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:51.280 even seeing them at all, even up to two years ago, right, 976 00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:54.920 And so we would have messages from thousands of people 977 00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:57.559 being like I saw one, I saw one. Great. What's 978 00:52:57.599 --> 00:52:59.760 going on in your life? I'm talking. People are just 979 00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:02.159 like they're washing dishes in their kitchen and then boom, 980 00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:04.519 or about the window, or they're outside, they're driving the truck, boom. 981 00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.480 I'm not talking there doing the work. It just appears, right, 982 00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:11.960 always trauma. What's going on in your life? My father died, 983 00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.719 my wife died, my son has cancer, I have cancer, whatever, 984 00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:19.079 X y Z. Every single time it was trauma. And 985 00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:21.320 I'm saying this because you said you can't have the 986 00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:23.519 assension without the shadow work, right, I think that's so. 987 00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:27.119 That's a sign of the light when you're going yes 988 00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:31.599 it's dark, Yes, yes, that's what I was getting to. Wow, 989 00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:34.119 I want to tell a story. We were asking me 990 00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:36.559 about my experience with and I kind of told my 991 00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:40.000 friend's experience which led me to you guys. I didn't 992 00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.360 even talk about how the amazing coincidence that I'm sitting 993 00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:46.199 here in this room right now because I manifested this 994 00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:48.960 because I wanted so bad to you know, meet you 995 00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:50.519 and have a SkyWatch. 996 00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:51.199 It's a mutual. 997 00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:56.239 The day of the fires in La beginning of January, 998 00:53:57.599 --> 00:53:59.519 we had heard that there were going to be high winds, 999 00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:02.360 that there were high wind advisories, which you know, could 1000 00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:07.079 could be fire kind of weather. That day I was, 1001 00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:11.719 I was, it was about midday noon, January seventh, and 1002 00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:14.639 I heard, I got a message or I saw something 1003 00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:16.760 that there was a fire in the Palisades. And the 1004 00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:19.079 Palisades is like, you know, it's a it's a very 1005 00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:22.679 upscale neighborhood. It's you know, it's I mean, not that 1006 00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:27.159 it matters upscale, downscale, but it was surprised, like Palssades. Yeah, 1007 00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:28.599 like fire in the Palisades. 1008 00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:28.880 WHOA. 1009 00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:32.920 I saw that and I and the winds were kicking 1010 00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:35.559 up and the winds were fierce, and I was driving 1011 00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:39.639 home through Hollywood, through the center of Hollywood, like you know, 1012 00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:45.519 Vine and Hollywood and Vine literally and I'm driving. The 1013 00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:47.880 winds are really strong. I just want to get home. 1014 00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:52.400 It feels like a weird energy day. And it's like 1015 00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:55.360 noon and I look up. I'm sitting at a red 1016 00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:58.599 light and I look up and I see something floating 1017 00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:01.599 and it was like, I was like, is that a 1018 00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:02.840 plastic bag? 1019 00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:05.159 I haven't heard that one. 1020 00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:07.840 And I'm like, that can't be. That's really high for 1021 00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:11.679 a plastic bag. And that's it's weird. It's bright, but 1022 00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:16.239 it's it's white, and and and then I realized that 1023 00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:19.000 the winds were so strong all around, but it was 1024 00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:21.639 dancing in a way that the winds. It wouldn't have 1025 00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:26.719 been along with the wind. It was moving almost on 1026 00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:31.000 its own, not because of winds. Does that make sense? 1027 00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:34.280 And it was it was it had a light to it, 1028 00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:38.519 and and I and then the light turned green and 1029 00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:41.079 I'm trying to keep watching it, and I'm like watching 1030 00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:42.840 as much as I can so I don't get in 1031 00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:46.760 an accident. And it's doing this incredible dance that I 1032 00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:51.039 felt like it was dancing for me. And and then 1033 00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:53.599 I got home, and then the news just started pouring 1034 00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:56.880 that day of fire fire fire, and then and then 1035 00:55:56.920 --> 00:55:59.880 we went into like you know, like two weeks of trauma, 1036 00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:03.519 you know, intent, but but I I kind of put 1037 00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:05.639 it aside because there was like so much going on 1038 00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:09.400 with the fire fire fire, and then I remembered that like, 1039 00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:12.920 wait a minute, that was not a plastic bag. 1040 00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:14.360 That was that? 1041 00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:15.239 What was that? 1042 00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:16.360 So? 1043 00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:20.199 Yeah, so and at that point you had no idea 1044 00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:22.800 like about the organ No, no, I had. 1045 00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:27.679 We had already talked in December, right, yeah, okay, this 1046 00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:28.800 was was January. 1047 00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.679 January. We had already had, we had already connected and 1048 00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:36.079 I had you know, I read again ridged the podcast. Well, yeah, 1049 00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:40.880 in that moment, well, there was at first like that's weird, 1050 00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:43.679 and then and then there was like as it was 1051 00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:48.239 driving and seeing like that's something. And then I was 1052 00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:51.199 like is that is that? And I'm like eyes on 1053 00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:54.280 the road, and then I had you know, and then 1054 00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:57.400 and then well it was, I I know, for sure 1055 00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:01.320 for sure trauma trauma. There was trauma happened. There was like, 1056 00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:05.800 you know, we were on the precipice. It was life changing. 1057 00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:09.199 It was the precipice. It almost felt it felt like 1058 00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:14.519 a like an omen or maybe like a guiding light, 1059 00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:15.280 a guiding light. 1060 00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:17.639 Yeah, at least for you. 1061 00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:20.199 Yeah, that was really powerful. 1062 00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:23.320 Yeah, and that's how it works that. 1063 00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:27.840 Day. If it would have been any other day, it 1064 00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:31.360 might not have had the like the wow this is 1065 00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:33.800 this felt like it was very synchronistic. 1066 00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:36.559 Yeah. Yeah, that's unbelievable. 1067 00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:40.000 Yeah, I I that. 1068 00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:44.880 I'm shurek like just thinking thinking about like all these 1069 00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:49.239 events unfolding. I am and like we were. You know, 1070 00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:52.320 I've been talking a lot lately, at least this year 1071 00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:55.639 about Manly p. Hall On on the show, because I 1072 00:57:55.719 --> 00:57:59.039 started when I left the Embassy of the Free Mind 1073 00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:03.039 in Amsterdam on that trip while I was back in Germany, 1074 00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:05.960 because I just went to Germany, you know, last year, 1075 00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:08.119 and we did a little three day excursion by train 1076 00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:10.119 to Amsterdam and then we came back to Germany for 1077 00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:12.320 like another week. And while I was in Germany, I 1078 00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:15.800 started reading on my phone The Secret Teaching of All Ages. 1079 00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:17.280 I was going to ask you, have you ever put 1080 00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:20.400 your hands on one of the large scale Secret Teaging Well, 1081 00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:23.639 you know, Tashen did a reproduction of the Secret Teachings 1082 00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:27.880 of All Ages in the original size and scale, with 1083 00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:32.679 you know, original documents and it's one of the most 1084 00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:36.360 incredible books. Well it's it's I mean, it's not the original, 1085 00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:38.679 but it's like a recreation, a recreation. 1086 00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:42.519 So was it like a huge, huge, huge of it 1087 00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:45.199 because you told me about it. Yeah, it's like it's 1088 00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:48.159 like a tome. Yeah. And so I started reading The 1089 00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:50.559 Secret Teachings of All Ages while I was in Germany, 1090 00:58:50.599 --> 00:58:52.360 and then I got back and I was so inspired 1091 00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:56.199 by this book that we we have done many episodes 1092 00:58:57.320 --> 00:58:59.559 covering content from it, and then we've been in this 1093 00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:02.599 like amazing groove lately where it's just been like guest 1094 00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:04.679 after guest after guest, and we haven't done any sort 1095 00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:08.119 of like outside guest content lately. But I've been thinking 1096 00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:10.679 so much about Manly P. Hall and The Secret Teachings 1097 00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:13.239 of All Ages this past year, talking about it on 1098 00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:15.840 the show, all this stuff. And then you pop up 1099 00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:17.239 and you're like, poof, Hey, I want you to come 1100 00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:19.000 to the PRS. They want you to do something there, 1101 00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:19.599 and I'm like what. 1102 00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:23.719 Well, I yeah, I was telling them because I spent 1103 00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:25.880 a lot of time there and it's like it's like 1104 00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:30.320 my community now and I'm friends with program and director 1105 00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:34.400 and I told I asked if they'd heard of you know, 1106 00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:35.440 your dad's. 1107 00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:38.920 Book, and and they have and amazing. 1108 00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:42.960 They yeah they. I was like, what about what about 1109 00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:47.000 you know, having a bled so night and they are 1110 00:59:47.159 --> 00:59:48.280 down so down. 1111 00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:50.880 I'm down, yeah, fully down. 1112 00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:54.039 And yeah it's a really it's a really special place. 1113 00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:57.119 I'm so excited for you to be there, be part 1114 00:59:57.159 --> 00:59:57.320 of it. 1115 00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:02.679 Yeah, me too. I feel like we have covered a 1116 01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:06.239 lot of amazing things. Is there anything left that you like? 1117 01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:07.280 How are you feeling? 1118 01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:13.480 I feel good? I yeah, I mean I thankfully didn't 1119 01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:17.559 have to talk about being a makeup artist. Not thankfully, 1120 01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:20.119 but you know, it's just like it's so nice to 1121 01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:23.440 talk about the stuff that really excites me. 1122 01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:24.719 Yeah, we get that all. 1123 01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:27.159 I mean, And I love I mean, obviously I love 1124 01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:29.639 what I do for a living. But and it's brought 1125 01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:32.599 me to so many places. It brought me here literally, 1126 01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:36.360 I'm you know, down here getting to paint a beautiful 1127 01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:37.679 face and now sit here. 1128 01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:40.440 But this. 1129 01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:48.800 World of esotericism and what is kind of available to 1130 01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:51.519 us through kind of being an open channel is what 1131 01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:53.000 I'm really into. Yeah. 1132 01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:56.320 I think this is a great place to you know, 1133 01:00:56.559 --> 01:01:00.480 kind of let it peacefully fizzle out because I want 1134 01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:04.920 to say something. Normally, the formula is the SkyWatch. 1135 01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:05.199 First. 1136 01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:07.840 Yeah, I was kind of bummed that, you know, I 1137 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:10.280 wasn't going to be able to do this after a SkyWatch. 1138 01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:12.360 But then I also was like, well, what if I 1139 01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:14.800 didn't see anything? That would have been a really awkward show. 1140 01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:20.360 Not really, you know, you will see something. I don't 1141 01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:20.880 think it's a. 1142 01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:24.079 Coward night now, I know. I actually I told you 1143 01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:25.920 I had a dream about your dad last night, and 1144 01:01:26.039 --> 01:01:28.639 in the dream I was already seeing kind of I 1145 01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:31.840 had beautiful visions in the dream good and it was 1146 01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:36.599 really it was beautiful. Yeah, I feel like it already. 1147 01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:38.440 The door has already opened. 1148 01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:44.079 Absolutely. You just you're just needing to consciously confirm what 1149 01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:46.280 you already know. And that is so natural and that 1150 01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:48.760 is a That's why people get the temples. Yeah, that's 1151 01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:50.360 why people go to a makeup artist. 1152 01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:53.000 Well, I want to ask you something. Actually when and 1153 01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:54.960 this I mean, I'm going to find this out tonight. 1154 01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:56.440 But I don't know if this is something you share 1155 01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:57.639 with your audience and if it's not. 1156 01:01:57.800 --> 01:01:58.920 Well we're about to find out. 1157 01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:00.159 So well. 1158 01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:03.960 I you know, I've been really contemplating this and sitting 1159 01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:07.039 you know, I love nothing more than to sit outside 1160 01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:10.360 and be under the sky, whether I can see stars 1161 01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:14.920 like I can here or not see stars like Los Angeles, 1162 01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:18.800 but I just I like, I really enjoy sitting outside 1163 01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:22.800 and just with the vastness of the you know cosmos 1164 01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:28.320 around me and wondering, you know, inner prayer, trying to 1165 01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:32.960 call in those who want to be seen, you know, 1166 01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:36.039 are there beings that want to be seen, energies that 1167 01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:40.320 want to be seen, And then getting some sort of 1168 01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:43.719 frustrated that maybe I'm not seeing what I wish I 1169 01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:47.199 was seeing. And then I wonder, is there a technique? 1170 01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:50.679 Is there a formula? Is there a prayer? Is there 1171 01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:51.679 a state of being? 1172 01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:51.920 Like? 1173 01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:56.239 How do you prepare? How would one prepare themselves to 1174 01:02:57.360 --> 01:03:00.280 sit out and SkyWatch on their own? If or not 1175 01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:03.960 so lucky to be amongst this crew. 1176 01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:07.559 Yeah, they we get asked that all the time, all 1177 01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:09.639 the time, and we talk about it all the time 1178 01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:10.320 all the time. 1179 01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:13.039 I mean there's you know, I mean doing you know, 1180 01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:17.760 working with Monroe, you know, sound frequencies has really opened 1181 01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:20.599 me up to a lot and and you know, is 1182 01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:22.920 that a technique or whatever that or is it just 1183 01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:27.000 like resonating? Yeah, what's the technique. 1184 01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:30.880 Monroe is great, and they will be the first to 1185 01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:34.079 tell you when you go there that there's no magic 1186 01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:37.199 in their frequencies. The magic is in your brain, right right. 1187 01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:40.559 They are just so good at like preparing a package 1188 01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:45.280 more efficiently than anyone else. You know. It's and anyway, 1189 01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:47.519 I'm just talking about Monroe because you brought Monroe up. 1190 01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:52.000 Love Monroe. They're great, but and and their sound technologies 1191 01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:54.480 can help you get to that place. But the reality 1192 01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:56.159 is that place is within your brain. 1193 01:03:56.440 --> 01:03:56.599 Right. 1194 01:03:57.239 --> 01:04:00.920 So the way that we do this is it's not 1195 01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:03.760 a C E five, it's not a you know, it's 1196 01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:06.360 not a school or a lesson that you have to 1197 01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:09.840 go and like learn certain techniques over many weeks or months. 1198 01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:14.119 It's so simple. You go outside. First of all, you 1199 01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:17.679 be humble when you address the higher power. You better 1200 01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:21.159 be humble because it knows your thoughts. It knows every 1201 01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:24.360 thing you've ever thought, everything you will thought, every emotion 1202 01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:29.239 you've ever had, every will have and beyond you know, 1203 01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:31.880 So you be humble when you address the higher power. 1204 01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:35.519 You connect with it in your mind because it knows 1205 01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:37.639 your thoughts. You can call it prayer, you can call 1206 01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:39.760 it telepathy, you can call it meditating. I don't care, 1207 01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:43.039 it doesn't matter. You know, it's like tomato tomato. Just 1208 01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:46.119 know that they hear your thoughts. You go outside, you 1209 01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:48.440 look up, and you send your thoughts up to them. 1210 01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:52.639 Imagine projecting your thoughts to them. Picture them in your 1211 01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:57.679 mind as these powerful, loving, benevolent beings who are aware 1212 01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:01.960 of even your thoughts, and just say, i'd love to 1213 01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:05.840 see I know you're there. If you're there, would you 1214 01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:06.800 be willing to show me? 1215 01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:11.039 And then it's it that the word love is was 1216 01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:14.119 so crucial to this equation. 1217 01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:15.880 Yeah, that's literally it. 1218 01:05:16.119 --> 01:05:16.320 Yeah. 1219 01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:18.119 You can go back and listen to every show we've 1220 01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:19.880 ever done and you'll be like, Okay, yeah, that checks out. 1221 01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:21.920 They've said it many, many, many times, you know what 1222 01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:23.760 I mean. And it's like, it's not a it's not 1223 01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:26.440 a method, it's not a technique. It's just a fact 1224 01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:29.559 that it's not a ritual. It's not a ritual. You know, 1225 01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:32.559 rituals are great, that's fine. People sometimes need stuff like that, 1226 01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:37.320 maybe people need mon row frequencies. But you don't, you 1227 01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:39.239 know what I mean. You probably would be the first 1228 01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:40.920 to tell us that the whole reason people do a 1229 01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:45.559 ritual is just to get the mind to a certain place, right, 1230 01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:49.039 but that places your mind, you know what I mean. 1231 01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:52.400 It's all within us, Yes, exactly, it's all within us. 1232 01:05:52.519 --> 01:05:54.519 It's all a natural part of our being. The connection 1233 01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:58.960 is natural, it's timeless, it's you know, it's beyond physical reality, 1234 01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:01.880 and it's just knowledge. It's a knowing. 1235 01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:06.320 I want to share this crazy story. Okay, I know 1236 01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:07.400 we're a little over an hour. 1237 01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:08.639 What We're fine. 1238 01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:12.760 So we were talking at lunch about past life regression 1239 01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:17.320 and uh, you know, and Crystal Pearl was sharing her 1240 01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:22.239 stories and and Ryan shared some stories. And I didn't 1241 01:06:22.280 --> 01:06:25.679 share this at lunch, but I just feel really called 1242 01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:27.360 to share it with all of your audience. 1243 01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:27.719 WHOA. 1244 01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:34.000 I recently did some past life regression work and one 1245 01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:36.760 of the you know, it's a it's a very long session, 1246 01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:43.559 so multiple incarnations can come through. And one incarnation that 1247 01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:48.079 came through was I was a star. I was just 1248 01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:53.519 a start. I was in Yes, I'm amazing. It was 1249 01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:56.079 there was you know, you know when you get into 1250 01:06:56.159 --> 01:06:59.079 a past life regret, when you're doing regression, you have 1251 01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:02.559 to first kind of describe where you are. And I'm like, 1252 01:07:02.960 --> 01:07:07.079 it's just space. It's just deep space. There's all there 1253 01:07:07.159 --> 01:07:09.800 is a space, and then it's trying to like, you know, 1254 01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:13.840 kind of understand, well, where who are you within that? 1255 01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:20.119 And all I could comprehend and put together was that 1256 01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:24.199 I was a light source. I was a star. I 1257 01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:28.639 was and I was saying these wild things that are 1258 01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:33.519 not my words that were just coming through that we 1259 01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:36.480 are all stars. I mean, this is you know, Crowley, 1260 01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:40.000 you know, I mean anyway, we're all stars, but we 1261 01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:43.159 are that light source. And I said the words that 1262 01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:48.480 the core of us, the nucleus of all of us, 1263 01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:55.679 is love and that's what's shining. And it felt so like, 1264 01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:58.880 it just felt so important that all we are is 1265 01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:03.679 this nucleus of love that is radiating light out through 1266 01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:08.800 the cosmos. Yeah, and it made me feel very connected to, 1267 01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:14.719 you know, kind of everything that is surrounds us and 1268 01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:20.279 star families, human families, because if we remember that within 1269 01:08:20.479 --> 01:08:23.319 us all is this nucleus of love, it is just 1270 01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:26.159 so simple. Yeah. 1271 01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:29.319 I think it's the only reason that we're here. I 1272 01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:32.720 think it's the only reason any of the physical, anything, 1273 01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:36.560 is any realm, is here. It's like otherwise we could 1274 01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:42.640 just stay some amorphous ethereal blob experiencing nothing in nothingness. 1275 01:08:43.239 --> 01:08:46.479 But it's like, no, we're here to incarnate and experience 1276 01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:50.279 love because that's what everything is, and we just we 1277 01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:52.600 just needed a frame of reference to be able to 1278 01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:54.840 feel it, which is why duality exists. 1279 01:08:55.439 --> 01:08:57.680 I think a good metaphor to explain it based on 1280 01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:01.159 just like my readings of the esoteric is like and 1281 01:09:01.399 --> 01:09:03.800 again this is like strictly metaphorically speaking, right, but like 1282 01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:08.840 us existing is like God doing shadow work. 1283 01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:11.319 I love that so much, you know what I mean, 1284 01:09:11.640 --> 01:09:14.359 that's exactly what we've been talking about, is we we 1285 01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:17.760 are portals and God is doing the shadow work. You know, 1286 01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:20.800 the kind of light above is having to do the 1287 01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:23.239 shadow work through us. We are the portal. 1288 01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:25.359 Yes, that's a perfect analogy honestly. 1289 01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:28.720 Yeah. Like not that God is an imperfect being or 1290 01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:31.880 or a negative being or anything like that that because 1291 01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:34.239 I understand people might take it that way, but in 1292 01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:37.399 my understanding, it's like the way that reality came to be. 1293 01:09:37.800 --> 01:09:40.000 People are always like, first of all, when you say 1294 01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:42.199 the word God, people are so boxed in their mind 1295 01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:44.039 they only think about it in a Christian search. 1296 01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:46.960 But that's just one more their framework that right be 1297 01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:49.399 led to. Yeah, but that's just that's why the Indie 1298 01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:52.359 the kind of more Eastern religions always resonate with me 1299 01:09:52.479 --> 01:09:55.119 because God is much more expansive. God is in all. 1300 01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:58.520 You know, we are God and that is and in everything. 1301 01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:01.760 And it's not the sky Daddy up there, you know. 1302 01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:05.680 And it's not just the sky Daddy. It's more you know, 1303 01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:07.680 God is within us all. 1304 01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:11.880 But see, that's like Western terrorism too, you know, Like 1305 01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:14.640 I genuinely believe the truth can only be found with 1306 01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:18.840 the blending of the East and the West. Like it, 1307 01:10:19.039 --> 01:10:23.359 they have to both be together. It's it's like, you know, duality, 1308 01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:27.760 like both both systems or both bodies of knowledge are 1309 01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:31.399 fundamentally true, and that they bring different parts of the 1310 01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:33.800 equation into one full focus, you know what I mean. 1311 01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:37.359 That's probably why so many myths throughout history it's always 1312 01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:39.479 the East going to the west or the West going 1313 01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:42.359 to the east. There's always a trek, there's always a 1314 01:10:42.520 --> 01:10:45.359 journey from one to the other. It's to get the 1315 01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:46.000 whole picture. 1316 01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:49.760 Why was all the gurus coming to America? You know 1317 01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:51.439 what I mean? But also like why was you know, 1318 01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:55.239 Jesus Pythagoras played going to the Yeah, exactly, It's like 1319 01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:59.039 this conundrum, right, and all these bodies of knowledge becoming syncretized. 1320 01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:02.279 But again, like to reiterate what I was saying about 1321 01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:05.279 the shadow work, from what I've read and understood, it's 1322 01:11:05.359 --> 01:11:09.640 like the reason that this universe was expressed into being 1323 01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:13.279 was because you know the phrase from Socrates I believe 1324 01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:16.359 it was. It was Aristotle. Rather, I'm not one hundred 1325 01:11:16.359 --> 01:11:18.399 percent sure which one it was, but it was know thyself, 1326 01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:21.640 right that, like you have to know thyself in order 1327 01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:26.640 to become enlightened. And I think that like the original consciousness, 1328 01:11:26.840 --> 01:11:33.000 God knew thyself that reflected within, and then from that 1329 01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:39.199 reflection came further emanations of existence. Whether it intended to 1330 01:11:39.359 --> 01:11:43.399 create reality or I don't know, because it's some all knowing, 1331 01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:49.319 all all encompassing being that it's perfect in and of itself, 1332 01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:53.960 and therefore within contemplating itself, lower emanations came into being. 1333 01:11:54.279 --> 01:11:58.600 And then those lower emanations are like I'm God, I am, 1334 01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:02.760 I am All, I am the Creator and the Ruler 1335 01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:06.079 and that yeah, and then that's how we have this 1336 01:12:07.039 --> 01:12:11.880 little material reality. And it's just like many many dimensional 1337 01:12:12.079 --> 01:12:17.600 layers of higher entities contemplating uh lower emanations of oneself 1338 01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:19.760 and to who we are and we're like, oh shit, 1339 01:12:20.199 --> 01:12:24.159 I forgot to pay my internet bill. Oh crap, I'm 1340 01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:26.199 late for class, you know what I mean, Like, we're 1341 01:12:26.279 --> 01:12:30.239 so dumb, We're so primitive compared to these omnipotent and 1342 01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:33.720 omniscient beings. Right, but like you know it, we're still 1343 01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:38.159 connected to the highest possible source and that's why we're 1344 01:12:38.199 --> 01:12:40.119 such wonderful divine beings. 1345 01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:43.119 But because that highest possible source is the nucleus of 1346 01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:44.239 love that's in us. 1347 01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:47.159 Yes, yeah, exactly, and that's what all we are. 1348 01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:51.600 And we just get so distracted. Yeah, and then we 1349 01:12:52.560 --> 01:12:54.960 remember and then get so distracted again. 1350 01:12:55.399 --> 01:12:57.840 You smoke a little d MD, or maybe you meditate 1351 01:12:58.239 --> 01:12:59.560 just the right way. 1352 01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:03.880 But on those headphones and get into that dreads, or 1353 01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:04.720 you go. 1354 01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:09.520 Through trauma yeah right, and you're forced or front. 1355 01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:12.680 There's so many different pathways. When when you have that 1356 01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:15.359 jolt to your system where you begin to awaken to 1357 01:13:15.439 --> 01:13:17.920 there's something more and you're like, oh my god, dude, 1358 01:13:18.119 --> 01:13:21.760 like I've had it wrong, you know, like there's something else. 1359 01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:24.439 There's there's lights in the sky. You know, I can 1360 01:13:24.520 --> 01:13:27.239 go out of body at will. I mean, life is magical, 1361 01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:29.279 the universe is magical. We are magical. 1362 01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:32.239 Beings, So is there a way to like you, I 1363 01:13:32.319 --> 01:13:34.359 keep thinking about what your father said and like asking 1364 01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:36.640 that question of like what's going on in your life 1365 01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:38.680 and is there trauma in your life? Because this is 1366 01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:44.479 you're spontaneously seeing this, there's a point where you kind 1367 01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:48.560 of overcome the trauma and are able to then have 1368 01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:52.680 more of a kind of you know, kind of uplifted 1369 01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:56.079 relationship with I mean, I can't imagine that, like ORB 1370 01:13:56.239 --> 01:13:59.760 sightings are only like when you're having trauma in your life, 1371 01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:03.680 don't know. That's most of the time, that's just the spontaneous. 1372 01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:06.960 Right, Okay, And it's not that you've overcome trauma and 1373 01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:09.119 it's like great, here's your reward. But rather more so, 1374 01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:12.760 it's like they appear as like a guide through it, 1375 01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:16.319 like you know, stay on the path, you know what 1376 01:14:16.359 --> 01:14:16.640 I mean. 1377 01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:20.760 But yeah, but then there's all that conditioning outside, and 1378 01:14:21.159 --> 01:14:23.159 you know that we're supposed to be afraid of that stuff. 1379 01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:26.439 That's a whole other. That's the dark, that's the dark force, 1380 01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:28.840 and that's the whole other. Yeah, that's a whole other. 1381 01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:34.600 An unfortunate side of things making the light seem like 1382 01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:36.680 it's dark to divert people. 1383 01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:39.920 I guess that's with all religions. I mean not all religions, 1384 01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:42.319 but many religions are trying to, you know, kind of 1385 01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:45.960 keep us from doing shadow work literally. Yeah, yeah, to 1386 01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:50.960 be afraid of it, be afraid of a cemetery, be. 1387 01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:53.840 Afraid of an angel, yeah, you know, be afraid of 1388 01:14:54.199 --> 01:14:57.640 seeking wisdom within yourself. You know a lot of things. 1389 01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:01.159 And I'll just leave it at that and not try 1390 01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:03.279 to be disrespectful because I had some jokes come to 1391 01:15:03.359 --> 01:15:09.079 mind that maybe I shouldn't say yourself, be afraid, be 1392 01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:13.199 afraid to uh, never mind, but I'll tell you later. 1393 01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:18.359 But yeah, you know, it's it's it's just kind of 1394 01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:21.000 mind blowing. Like the scope of things I've really enjoyed. 1395 01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:23.319 I I just enjoy being in your presence. You're really cool. 1396 01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:26.239 You have an energy about you, for sure, absolutely, and 1397 01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:29.079 I'm looking forward. So I was saying this about twenty 1398 01:15:29.159 --> 01:15:31.319 minutes ago or fifteen minutes ago, that, like typically the 1399 01:15:31.399 --> 01:15:34.920 formulas we SkyWatch first, but we had limited time we're 1400 01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:37.840 working with here, so that opens the door to a 1401 01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:39.680 future part two. 1402 01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:44.840 Yeah, a part two. Yeah, Well, maybe you take the 1403 01:15:44.920 --> 01:15:46.800 show on the road and we do part two from. 1404 01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:50.319 LA let's do I mean, let's do it, man, twist 1405 01:15:50.399 --> 01:15:53.800 my arm, come on, Alex. 1406 01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:58.920 Or whatever, you know, virtual whatever, whatever. But yeah, I 1407 01:15:59.039 --> 01:15:59.720 love that idea. 1408 01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:00.960 Yeah, let's do it. 1409 01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:02.600 I love that I'm worthy of a part too. 1410 01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:06.560 Oh, we're worthy of just you know, hang out with you. 1411 01:16:07.560 --> 01:16:11.880 I hope, Yeah, I hope. So one thing I like 1412 01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:15.720 to ask listeners is if you can imagine there are 1413 01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:19.520 a lot of people listening and you had, like that 1414 01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:23.199 one little opportunity to tell them your most banging piece 1415 01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:25.439 of wisdom that you've just always wished you had the 1416 01:16:25.520 --> 01:16:29.520 opportunity to impress upon people that you think it'll help 1417 01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:32.279 people maybe turn their life around. Whatever. Like, what what 1418 01:16:32.359 --> 01:16:34.880 would you if you had a people listening, what would 1419 01:16:34.920 --> 01:16:36.640 you share with them? Wow? 1420 01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:40.960 That's deep. Well, I mean I feel like what I 1421 01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:44.159 shared a few minutes ago, that message that came through 1422 01:16:44.920 --> 01:16:48.000 in my star form that you know, I love that 1423 01:16:48.199 --> 01:16:52.680 nucleus is love. The nucleus within all of us is love. 1424 01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:57.319 That's kind of huge, and I mean that's that's really 1425 01:16:57.359 --> 01:17:00.640 all there is. There's love, you know, I mean, that's it. 1426 01:17:01.399 --> 01:17:03.840 I think the other thing I just maybe want to 1427 01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:08.479 share that is that when you look in the mirror, 1428 01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:15.000 remember to find yourself in that mirror and not to 1429 01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:20.119 go to the place of self judgment, insecurity, kind of 1430 01:17:20.439 --> 01:17:27.079 expectations of societal forces or wishful thinking, and the mind 1431 01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:34.239 can very easily go to spin to a very negative 1432 01:17:34.319 --> 01:17:36.880 place when people look in the mirror. Maybe I don't know, 1433 01:17:37.119 --> 01:17:40.520 I haven't interviewed so many men about this, but with women. 1434 01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:42.520 I mean, I think it's just with humans. When you 1435 01:17:42.600 --> 01:17:45.279 look in the mirror, you start self judging yourself. So 1436 01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:47.920 I think that my greatest wish and what I hope 1437 01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:50.359 that a legacy that I'm going to kind of be 1438 01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:54.199 able to share with the world is to find self 1439 01:17:54.279 --> 01:17:58.840 acceptance through the mirror. And that's kind of leading me 1440 01:17:59.079 --> 01:18:01.520 towards something that I'll be you know, talking about maybe 1441 01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:04.600 on part two. Yeah, maybe part two, because I'll be 1442 01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:05.960 sharing something. 1443 01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:06.920 Yeah. 1444 01:18:07.479 --> 01:18:09.520 Yeah, I love that. It's very positive. 1445 01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:11.720 It's a message that a lot of people need to hear. 1446 01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:12.760 And yeah, I think it does a. 1447 01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:16.039 Human we're all everything that we're looking at is so 1448 01:18:16.279 --> 01:18:21.000 filtered and manipulated, and and you know, the expectations on 1449 01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:25.359 people to look a certain way or to have stuff 1450 01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:29.760 or to be something, it's also warped. And so people, 1451 01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:35.479 you know, are not not easily finding acceptance because they 1452 01:18:35.600 --> 01:18:38.479 always feel like they're not meeting these standards of society. 1453 01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:41.199 Society is set up, and I see that in the 1454 01:18:41.199 --> 01:18:43.880 beauty industry especially, you know, because That's where I'm coming from. 1455 01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:46.880 So I see how it's like really like fucking with 1456 01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:50.199 people's heads that you know, you know, you don't look 1457 01:18:50.279 --> 01:18:51.800 like what you used to look like, or you don't 1458 01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:54.000 look like what that movie star looks like, or da 1459 01:18:54.079 --> 01:18:56.479 da da da da. But then it's also like leads 1460 01:18:56.479 --> 01:18:59.319 into like all, you know, the materialism of life, you 1461 01:18:59.399 --> 01:19:02.439 know that, and that mirror is a place where you 1462 01:19:02.600 --> 01:19:05.880 have an opportunity to meet the kind of light of 1463 01:19:05.960 --> 01:19:10.560 your eyes, the soul of yourself, and connecting in that 1464 01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:12.119 moment can be really powerful. 1465 01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:13.279 I love that. 1466 01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:16.720 Yeah, It's like people look at themselves and they're like, well, 1467 01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:20.359 I'll love myself and accept myself when I look. 1468 01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:22.840 Like this, when I have a million dollars in the bank, 1469 01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:26.199 when I get the job that I want, when I've 1470 01:19:26.279 --> 01:19:27.880 lost thirty pounds. 1471 01:19:27.640 --> 01:19:30.000 Then I'll be proud of myself and I'll love myself 1472 01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:30.920 and accept myself. 1473 01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:33.920 And it's like, no, do it right now now, because 1474 01:19:34.039 --> 01:19:37.880 we don't have anything other than right now, this breath 1475 01:19:38.159 --> 01:19:42.279 right exactly all we have just who knows what's like 1476 01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:44.319 on the next let me step out the door. 1477 01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:46.520 Nothing's promised, nothing at all. 1478 01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:47.039 Nothing. 1479 01:19:47.560 --> 01:19:50.920 Yeah, that's profound, that's beautiful. Yeah, I mean, like with 1480 01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:54.119 the breath. And I've had great changes in my life 1481 01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:57.520 when I realized that there's so much power in the 1482 01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:00.439 breath and the awareness of the breath, in the state 1483 01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:03.520 of mind that comes from the way that you're subconsciously breathing, 1484 01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:06.880 you know. So yeah, that's a whole other conversation. 1485 01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:10.520 Yeah, it's a whole I mean amazing for you know, anxiety, Like, 1486 01:20:10.680 --> 01:20:13.359 you know, managing anxiety is just using the breath. It's 1487 01:20:13.439 --> 01:20:15.920 also simple. You don't need to take a pill. You 1488 01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:19.399 can just focus on your breath and it will help 1489 01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:22.880 relieve you of you know, many stresses, many ailments. 1490 01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:26.319 Yeah, when you're in a state of anxiety, your breath 1491 01:20:26.479 --> 01:20:27.960 is reflecting a certain state. 1492 01:20:28.239 --> 01:20:30.199 Yeah, and then you can use your and you can 1493 01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:33.880 use your breath to reregulate, so you know, box breath 1494 01:20:34.039 --> 01:20:36.840 and things like that, you know, to help kind of 1495 01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:38.119 reregulate your system. 1496 01:20:38.920 --> 01:20:42.520 Yeah. When I was watching the season finale of Severance, 1497 01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:44.520 a couple of nights ago. I was about to have 1498 01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:49.600 a panic attack, and I was like, I had to 1499 01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:51.319 regulate myself. That show's insane. 1500 01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:54.760 Yeah, is that the one about the people who are 1501 01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:58.359 like I have split live? I haven't watched it yet. 1502 01:20:58.800 --> 01:20:59.479 Yeah, watched it. 1503 01:21:00.119 --> 01:21:00.760 I gotta watch it. 1504 01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:03.279 Amazing, unbelievable, amazing show. 1505 01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:06.479 Yeah. Yeah, I didn't mean to go off on a tangent. 1506 01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:08.319 Now it's all good. Do you know how we in 1507 01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:11.239 the show? Yeah? 1508 01:21:11.239 --> 01:21:12.520 What do you say? What is it again? Just? 1509 01:21:12.600 --> 01:21:15.720 Bye guys? Okay, yeah, are you ready for Yeah? 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