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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. It is Wednesday,

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July first, eleven, thirty eight PM, A little bit earlier

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than some of the other podcasts, but I really had

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to make sure that I do this one. I have

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been neglecting you guys out there for a couple of days,

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but I think with good reason because I was playing,

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wanted to get some rest. Things weren't had a reasonable

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time to work with my rest schedule while I was playing.

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But I'll get to that at the at the end

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of the episode. Won't bore you guys with that stuff

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early on Big Show Today, do have to get caught

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up on a lot of different things here. Headlining, we

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got Sean Deep and Michael the Grinder and Miss Rocky

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both getting number nine nine gold bracelets for Deep, nine

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gold bracelets for Mis Rocky. We got a Ladies Championship winner,

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sky Chen taking that one down. We'll hit on that.

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Matthew Higgins, a very popular pro, wins the Mystery Millions.

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I forgot to talk about Elis Parson and winning his

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second bracelets. I want to hit on that quickly because

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two bracelets for the Finn in the events that he

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won him in certainly worth mentioning today or tonight, I

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should say, Or yeah, last night, Marcus Gonzoalvez won the

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five K six Max, Matt Grapenthine won the ten K

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stud A. We got Daniel Nigranu Real Kod Poker d

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Nix himself making a deep run in the one hundred

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k PLO. They are down to the final table they

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are supposed to play out to I think a certain

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number of levels. Maybe they get down to the final five.

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I don't know what the exact schedule is, but then

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they're supposed to stop and come back on Thursday to

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finish that one out. So we'll check in with that

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one as we go throughout throughout the episode. It's the

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eve of the WSB main event when I'm recording this

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Day one A is on Thursday, July second, so I'll

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touch on that too, And then of course, so I'll

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talk about some of my playing endeavors over the last

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couple of days. As always, please like the podcast, leave

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Kicking things off on today's episode, we have Sean Deeb

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topping a field of seven hundred and sixty six entries

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to win a little bit over one hundred and eighty

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one thousand dollars. It's Deep's ninth bracelet. It moves him

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to the top of the WSP Player of the Year leaderboard. Now,

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it was either the last episode or maybe the episode

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before that, but I caught up with Deeb on a

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break for a quick chat for a few minutes, and

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you guys heard him say if you listened to that episode,

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you heard him say that, you know he gave himself

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a very very small chance at winning Player of the year. Well,

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now thanks to winning this event, it was the fifteen

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hundred dollars eight game tournament, I I forget, don't think

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I said that, And if I didn't, you know, forgive me.

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He was able to move up to the top of

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the leaderboard. Now the lead isn't big, and there's a

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lot of people in contention, and pretty much like a

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cash from like one of ten people could could really

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shake up the top of this leaderboard. So there's a

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lot of sweating still to go at the World Series

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of Poker, of course that BISP Paradise is included as well.

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Deep one this very event back in twenty twenty three.

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Similar to Benny Glasser, who we talked about recently when

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he won the fifty k PPC, Deep won his first

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bracelet in twenty fifteen. Both of them now have nine.

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Both of them got their first bracelet in twenty fifteen,

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so they both got nine bracelets in the same number

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of years. That's a pretty cool little fact about those two.

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It almost felt like, you know, I watched a bit

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of this live while it happened. You know, they're playing

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down Deep's got a really good stack, a pretty healthy

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lead at some points at one point, I walk out

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up into what they call the cluster, which is these

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twelve tables are on the front section of the new

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main stage, and Deep's up there. They're playing with two tables. Okay.

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I come check in maybe a half hour later, so okay,

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they're down to one table. There's six players left. I

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go and I chat with someone. It could not have

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been longer than ten minutes. I come back and there's

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three players left. I'm like, what the heck is going on.

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I go to the back, tell the guys, you know.

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I'm like, hey, there's three left. I go back out there.

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Their heads up. I'm like, what the hell, what the

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hell's going on? This is just I mean, there are

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people that's busting and every single leah, this is crazy.

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So Sean Deep ends up heads up with Dean Joe

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and they're going back and forth, back and forth, and

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at one point, Dean Joe starts to pull away from Deep,

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and I felt it. I felt like the rail that

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was watching felt it. I felt like Sean Deep felt it.

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Like and what I'm saying is, oh my gosh, another

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second place finished. I'm gonna finish second again. I had

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those second place finishes Ata Wispy Europe. I'm here at

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the World Series of Poker. I had the one final

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table run where I think it was a fifth place,

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but then I got the second place, finished to Joey Couten,

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and here I am, I'm gonna finish second again. Like

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I felt like that was the feeling for Deep and

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all the people that were sweating him and watching and

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even him he himself, you know, I was like, oh, man,

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like you can kind of see it on his face. Well,

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it turns out Deeb is able to battle back. Now,

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when they were heads up, the limits were pretty high,

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so you know, the chips were flying back and forth.

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Deep ultimately battles back and is able to close it

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out in a game of PLO to send Dean Joe

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packing in second place, with Dean jo taking one hundred

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and twenty thousand dollars for his finish. But for Deeb,

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you know, you could kind of sense like a little

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bit of relief, but in a weird kind of way.

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It was so when he lost to Joey Couten. Now, obviously,

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Sean Deep is the ultimate competitor when it comes to poker.

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He wants to win, especially at the world. So he's

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a poker, right, we all know how much he wants

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to chase Player of the Year. He wants to get

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these bracelets. He keeps saying he's gonna run down held me,

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all that sort of stuff. When he lost to Joey Cooten,

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he kind of like stormed out. I talked about that

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a little bit, and you know, he was a little

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bit upset with how Joey handled some things and whatever.

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and it's it's frustrating when you get heads up and

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you have a lead and you ultimately lose, and you know,

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it's just a you know, it's a giant headache to

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deal with. This one. He wins, and it's not like

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deeb is like celebrating. He's not that type of guy.

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you know, says that he played a great game, like

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all that sort of stuff. And then the relief is

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more like the pep in his step came back, meaning

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he was quickly like right back into grind mode, like okay,

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I got a register for the next tournament, which I

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think at the time was the twenty five hundred dollars

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mixed triple draw. You know, so like, can we hurry

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up with these photos? Can we do any interviews quickly?

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Like all that sort of stuff. Even with me, I

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the photos happened, just so you guys are aware that

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the winner photos happened. Then it's usually like Pokernews or

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poker dot Org. Well, first it'll be a dubis a

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p interview, which in this case it was with Sean

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Deeve and Natalie Bodi, the Great Natalie Bodi went up

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and she interviewed him, and then I think poker dot

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org and or Poker News might have grabbed him for

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a quick interview. And then as he's walking off. You know,

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we always tend to go last. You know. One of

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the things we do, if you guys have seen any

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of the interviews that we've been doing, we kind of

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pull people back to a different little space. So you know,

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we're gonna let everyone else go and do their thing first,

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and then we'll come in at the end. No big deal,

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We'll wait. But dee you know he said no to me,

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I mean politely, he was like, you know what I'm

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gonna get in this next tournament? There's forty five minutest'll break,

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I'll grab you know, can we do it on the

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next break? I was like, yeah, sure, no problem. So

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you know that's how that went. But what I'm getting

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at is like it was a sense of relief in

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the sense that he was back on top of Poy

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and it was like, Okay, I got the win, let's go.

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Poy's back on, let's gun for it. And that's the

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sense that I got. He was right back in to

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that next tournament and he was, you know, full grind mode,

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full Sean Deep, pep in his step, like let's go.

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with Sean deeb. You know, some of you might have

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saw it on social media already, but for those that didn't,

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I'm gonna play that for you guys.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: We spoke on the break about forty five minutes or

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so after his win. We talked about getting his ninth

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bracelet chasing Player of the Year. You guys can hear

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what he thinks his odds are still, you know, and

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more comes from that interview. So here's that. Now, this

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is Sean Deep after winning bracelet number nine. All right,

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Sean several close calls. You finally got the job done,

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but it wasn't easy. You started with a chip deficit

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ultimately came back in that moment, are you are you

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feeling any pressure? Like, oh no again second place?

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Speaker 3: You know, starting down two to one chips, I was like,

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if I lose this one, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: But you know, then I got him down to like.

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Speaker 3: You know, three, five, six million, and the battle back

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and then I got them short and then I double

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them up. So it's like, you know, I already kind

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of feel the storylines happening, but you know, thankfully I

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went on the right rush in the right time, and

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you know one, you know, I double them up and

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then I got it in again in PLO and I held.

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Speaker 1: When you put so much pressure on yourself, or I

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should say, when you care so much about chasing Player

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of the Year right and you have all these close calls,

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but you're still not getting the results you might have

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hoped for.

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Speaker 4: You know, how.

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Speaker 1: Easy is it or difficult is it to stay patient

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through it all and just trust the process.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just know that POI is a volume

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based game.

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Speaker 3: I think that the top ten to fifteen people in

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POY this year are the strongest overall players that ever

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has been assembled, and we're all so close in points.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, I've had very few cashes in Vegas this year,

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but three of them were very valuable in POY points.

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Speaker 2: So I know what I got to do for the formula.

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Speaker 3: I have the lead currently, but I know that every

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day someone in the top ten is going to be

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cashing or making a finel table. So I keep showing

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up every day, keep putting the volume, and you know,

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I appreciate gig putting the prize school, and I really

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love to see so many people going hard for Player

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of the Year because I think it wouldn't be as

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rewarding if people are like, you know, I'm not gonna

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go for it, But everyone who's close is, you know,

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really going balls to the wall.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say you'd be someone who would change your

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day to day. Right, you're gonna be here, You're gonna

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be firing all the tournaments, and you're gonna be going

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for it. But mindset wise, now that you are back

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up on top, is a little bit more pep in

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your step going to that next one?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean it definitely means that my smaller point

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scores are gonna make a difference because I think almost

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every one the top ten has more except for Yanni

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has more cases than I do, you know, So I

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know that every point I get is gonna go very

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likely to my top fifteen scores at this point. So

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I know that every little and you know it's gradual

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as well, So every little point's gonna matter, and anything

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can happen, you know, if you know, I put enough

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fighting shots so far this year, no matter what, I'm gonna,

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you know, be happy with my play and hopefully I

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take down a couple more so then people don't try

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so harden Bahamas.

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Speaker 4: In this tournament where you are you happy with your play?

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You know? Through it all.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's an eight game tournament. I've played a

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lot of these. I've won this tournament in twenty twenty three.

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It's definitely once I get the chips that I got early.

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People are scared of me in big bet, they're scared

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of me in stud games. So I did a lot

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of stealing. I did not have the best hand a lot,

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but that's kind of always been my Steamroll style, and

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I thankfully got a lot of tables where they let

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me steal more than my fair share of pots.

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Speaker 1: Got to ask you about something you said. You said

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that you know the Player of the Year race. To

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you is you know that it's a volume game. Does

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that possibly hurt that title just knowing that it's a

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volume based game.

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Speaker 4: More so or no?

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Speaker 3: I think that it's so hard to play good poker

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every day, every game, every buying level. And you know

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so many people who have won Player of the Year,

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say Dan Zach or Ema Takas something like, you know,

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I talk about my view like I hope I never

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have to do that again. You know a lot of

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people get burnt out because they have that one summer.

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They just go for it, you know, and it really

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takes a sick individual to do it multiple times, to

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really compete day and day out every year. And you know,

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I love every year because I get to know new competitors.

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Speaker 1: You've got two POI titles already, and you're now the

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front runner having taken the lead. You got the nine

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brace that you've said many times you think you're gonna

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chase down Phil Hellmuth. How much weight do you put

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into these milestones that you're chasing?

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Speaker 3: Think, you know, my accolades mean a lot. Hopefully I

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get in the Hall of Fame this year. Obviously bracelet

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number nine will probably help my cause a little bit.

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But no, I think that I've been you know, a

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pro for twenty years now, twenty plus years, and show

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up here every day, love the game, love the people

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I meet.

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Speaker 2: You know, met my wife because of poker.

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Speaker 3: So I think that it's the greatest job ever, and

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I'm happy to be able to still do it every day.

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Speaker 1: The other day, you and I spoke quickly. You said

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your chances for Player of the Year around ten percent.

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If that, what do you think they are now?

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Speaker 3: I think there are only like fifteen or twenty, just

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because there's so many people in the top, like you know,

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there's no way, like there's no lead is safe right

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now this year. You know, the main evance can give

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a ton of points. There's just so many elite players

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who play high buyings, low stuff, and if they, you know,

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put in the volume that I'm putting in, you know,

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I'm maybe fifteen, maybe twenty. I got to look at

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really the actual scores of everyone, but I just kind

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of know at this point, the more points I get,

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the higher MIC what he gets. So when be in

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every tournament, be fining around and have some fun.

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Speaker 4: Did you talk to the wife and kids after you won?

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Speaker 3: My kids were asleep, you know, East Coast. My wife

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fell asleep when I was heads up.

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Speaker 2: She woke up.

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Speaker 3: Someone kept calling her and she talked to me for

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a little bit, and yeah, you know, she's supportive. She

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doesn't get enough sleep and it sucks the time zones.

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But you know, it's how life goes.

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Speaker 1: When people look back on your career, whenever the heck

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that might end. You know, what do you want them

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to say about Shawnde.

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Speaker 3: I always did what was best for the industry. I

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always were my heart on my sleeve. You know, I'm honest.

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I don't have great you know, I'm not always easygoing

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and out, you know, very friendly. I can be miserable.

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I can be cunty. I can you know, I can battle,

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But that's just because of the competition side. You know,

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I think a lot of phill honey that's rubbed off

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of me over the years. I mean I was like

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that way before, but even more so. Some of his

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manners I've picked up over the years. But no, I

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just hope that, you know, people realize that you know,

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I appreciate everything poker gave me, and I've tried to

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give back in so many ways, consulting, helping dealers, helping staff.

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You know, I feel like of all the top, you know,

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high limit guys, I'm more friendly with the median staff

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than almost anyone else. So I just think that that's

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the type of person I am. That's the way my

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parents raised me and my grandma. You know, you just

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appreciate everyone, and you know I'm not better than anyone else,

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you know, because of what I've done in poker.

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Speaker 2: I'm just play a lot of poker.

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Speaker 4: Last question here, what do you think it's gonna take

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to get number ten? Now?

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Speaker 2: Ending the tournament with all the chips.

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Speaker 3: It's really when you have all the chips in front

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of you, you get a bracelet at least the events

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that I play, so yeah, you know I'll be firing online,

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firing live, and who else anything can happen.

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Speaker 2: For us this summer.

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Speaker 1: So interesting to hear from Sean deep there. How he

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still doesn't give himself too big of chances, you know,

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I think he said fifteen to twenty percent if I

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remember correctly, in terms of winning Player of the Year,

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because as he said, you know, this is probably the

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toughest top ten to fifteen players in the race for

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the WSIP Player of the Year. I'm just gonna head

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to WSP dot com right now and pull up the

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Player of the Year standings. But of course you have

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Sean deeb on top. You've got Alex Foxen in second

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less than one hundred points behind, so any sort of

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deep run from fox and he's right there. Ioiqihara is

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up there. He's already won two bracelets this summer. Josh Aria,

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Nick Shulman, Benny Glauser, Josh reikerd Elis Parsonen Martin Zemani,

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Michael Musrocky, Justin Liberto, Chris Hunikan, Marco Johnson, Calvin Anderson,

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Jesse Lawns. That's the top fifteen. I mean, that's just

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absolutely insane that that's the top fifteen. You know, a

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little bit further down you got a Dylan Smith there,

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you got a Yuris of Aleski, you got a Chris Brewer.

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Like I mean, this is an absolutely stacked race for

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the WSOP Player of the Year, and we got a

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lot of big events still to happen. You know, of course,

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we have the wsp Man event, where as you heard

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Sean say, there's gonna be a lot of points up

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for grabs. So if anyone can put together a run

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in that event, which is very hard to do, yes,

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but if anyone does it, that could really shake up

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these standings. You know, you also have I think the

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ten K six packs is still coming. You got the

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twenty five K horse is still coming. So there is

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some big stuff that is on the horizon. Maybe a

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fifty k or two are on the horizon, you know,

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So there's a lot of stuff. And then fast forward

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to December WASIP Paradise. We know how big the events

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are going to be there. A lot of the names

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that I just read off are going to be down

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there blasting at Paradise. Right, So there's a lot to

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be settled in the Wasby Player of the Year race. Yes,

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right now Sean deeb is in the driver's seat, but

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you know, this is still pretty much anyone's game. And

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I think in past years, you know, we've kind of thought, Okay,

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Sean Deep's the favorite, maybe there's a handful at best

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of other players out there who could really challenge Sean Deeb.

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And I like the fact that we have ten, fifteen,

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twenty players that could legitimately go on to win the

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WASP Player of the Year title. I think that's great. Now,

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I'm like bought into watching and sweating this a bit

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more like I think that that's awesome. And I heard

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that they did do some tinkering to the point system

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for the WASP Player of the Year. So if this

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is what they wanted to have some greater competition here,

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and you know, hopefully you get it with with some

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really big names that can draw in some of the

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viewers out there, then that's a great thing. So you know,

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I guess kudos to the WSOP there if they did

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in fact tinker with this, because this race is pretty

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awesome right now. I mentioned him earlier when I talked

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about Deep getting number nine, and that is Benny Glaser.

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And I just want to kind of go back to

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this point or maybe it's not a whole point, maybe

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but it's more like a take and it might be

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something that I'm kind of working through. You know, I

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was kind of going through the rundown how I wanted

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to map out the episode, and I kind of started.

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I couldn't help but think about Benny Glaser while pennying

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my notes and reviewing all the stuff as it relates

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to Sean Deep. Now, I don't want to take away

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from anything that Sean Deep has done and his win

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of his ninth bracelet and all that sort of stuff, right,

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because you know, that's why I tried to spend a

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little bit of time on it, play the interview, et cetera.

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I do still think that in some degree we're under

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selling Benny Glaza. We always talk about Sean Dee being

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the one to ultimately chase down Phil Hammy. We always

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talk about Sean Deep as it relates to WSP Player

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of the Year every year. You know, why can't that

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be Benny? You know, I guess the question really is,

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have we just become so accustomed to Sean Deep's greatness,

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specifically as it relates to the WSP that we don't

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evaluate other players, and especially the ones that are so

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good in mixed games, like Benny Glauser, that we don't

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evaluate them by the same standard. Now, it's obviously true

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that maybe Benny doesn't play every single event to the

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extent that deeb does. You know, he's not like Benny,

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wouldn't I don't think Ben would do what Sean Deep did.

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For example, what like Shawn Deep wins this event, he

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rips through the interviews, he tells me he wants to

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wait because he's already registered for the next tournament. He's

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off and he's going like, I think Benny would be

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more of like a I don't know, maybe kind of

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a soak it in for a little while, you know,

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and then get into the next tournament and that sort

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of thing. He's not grinding the schedule as hard as

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Shandee does. And Benny does grind the schedule hard, you know,

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but he's I mean, you heard Sean Deep in his

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interview say that the Player of the Year stuff is

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basically a volume game, which did prompt me to say, like, well,

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does that kind of diminish the accomplishment because if it's

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just a volume game, like, aren't you kind of gaming

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the system? So doesn't that make the award worth a

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little bit less in your eyes? But anyway, Benny's elite, right.

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And another thing, just as it relates to who's gonna

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chase down helmet first, you know, if you're talking about

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these two and the reason why I'm thinking about these

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two is because you know again, they both got their

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first brace it in twenty fifteen, and now they've had

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nine since then. So in that same time for him,

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they've both won nine. But Benny Glauser is three years

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younger than Sean Deep, right, so he's doing this at

472
00:23:11,759 --> 00:23:15,680
a younger age. I don't know. I just something about

473
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:21,440
the youth, like it feels like Benny's maybe slightly more

474
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,960
in his prime than Sean Deeb is. We also know

475
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,960
Benny can play all the games. Deep can obviously play

476
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,559
all the games. Now deeb is probably much better in

477
00:23:28,599 --> 00:23:30,880
the big bet stuff, maybe not much better, but better

478
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,599
in the big bet stuff, and then Benny's probably a

479
00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:35,519
little bit better in the mixed game stuff, you know.

480
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 2: So you know, I mean.

481
00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: Whatever, that's a wash at the end of the day,

482
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,079
but their resumes they're pretty similar. I've already talked about

483
00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:44,839
the nine bracelets over that same time period. For Benny,

484
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,240
you know, his shiny moment just came recently won the

485
00:23:47,279 --> 00:23:50,400
Poker Players Championship. I think you can easily make the

486
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,160
case that he's the most technically gifted mixed game specialist

487
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,759
in the world when it comes to tournaments. He also

488
00:23:55,839 --> 00:23:57,839
had that one summer when he won three bracelets in

489
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,680
a summer, which is a freaking incredible accomplishment.

490
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 2: Right, deeb.

491
00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: You know he doesn't have the PBC title, Okay, but

492
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,640
he's a two time Player of the Year, right. I

493
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,599
mean that you have to win, you have to perform,

494
00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:12,240
and you have to win, and winning at the WSP

495
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,880
means bracelet, So you know, WSP Player of the Year

496
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,400
twice for him. He's one of the most versatile tournament

497
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,119
players ever. He's certainly one of the most feared tournament

498
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,200
players ever. His big thing is, obviously he plays virtually

499
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,880
everything that he can get his hands on on the schedule,

500
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,079
so is volume of volume volume. He is obsessed with

501
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,759
the w A P and maximizing that volume. So you know,

502
00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:37,279
the difference between these two, it's not necessarily the ability

503
00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:39,759
between them, because you know, again I could say that

504
00:24:39,839 --> 00:24:43,880
Deep is probably the better between these two and the

505
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,519
big bet Ben he's probably the better in the mixing

506
00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:50,920
game stuff. Okay, Fine, it's more about the philosophy where

507
00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:54,920
deb has he takes to the ws AP trying to

508
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,240
win Player of the Year, and he's even said like

509
00:24:57,319 --> 00:25:00,680
some extreme things where it's like I Shi almost not

510
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,839
play the WSP Main Event, because if I get sucked

511
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,759
into that, it doesn't necessarily help me because I can't

512
00:25:07,759 --> 00:25:09,799
play all these other tournaments that I would be missing

513
00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:12,240
if I'm in the WSP Main Event for let's say

514
00:25:12,279 --> 00:25:16,039
five or six days, which is a decent result financially,

515
00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:17,640
if you're in it for five or six days, because

516
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,880
you're probably going to be cashing from anywhere from thirty

517
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,359
to let's say eighty thousand dollars, which is a nice

518
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,359
chunk of change. Yes, but how many POY points are

519
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,759
you going to get for that versus how many tournaments

520
00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:29,640
did you have to miss because you were stuck in

521
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,839
this tournament This year, things could be a little bit

522
00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:34,720
different if they did change up the points for me

523
00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:37,960
a little bit more. And Deep, I feel like Deep thinks, so,

524
00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:39,559
you know, I don't want to put too many words

525
00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:41,720
in his mouth here, but when he says that there's

526
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,960
going to be so many points up for grabs in

527
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,519
the WSP Main Event, I think he knows, you know

528
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:49,200
that that's the tournament. Like you do very well in

529
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,759
that tournament, that can really set you apart in that

530
00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:55,559
POY race. So for Deep, you know, he's basically made

531
00:25:55,559 --> 00:26:02,160
the WSIP a volume practice, a mathematical exercise. He's just

532
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,440
going to register everything, possibly multiple tournaments at once, you know,

533
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,839
because he believes that volume was what ultimately helps him

534
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,559
and his chances at winning bracelets and winning Player of

535
00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:17,000
the Year, you know. So I think that's obviously why

536
00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:20,359
we obviously talk about him chasing Hellmuth. It also helps

537
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,440
that when you think about who's going to chase down Helmuth,

538
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,039
it's easy to think about the guy who openly says

539
00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:28,640
he's going to catch Helmuth, which Deep does over and

540
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,079
over and over again. Now Benny, on the other side,

541
00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:33,799
he's been a little bit more selective. He still plays

542
00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:36,839
a high volume, yes, but he will be more selective

543
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,000
than Deep is, you know, and it's he's not as

544
00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:42,119
loud with like that I'm going to chase down Hellmuth.

545
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,400
I mean, I really can't recall him saying that specific thing, you.

546
00:26:46,279 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 2: Know, at all.

547
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: But if Benny decided tomorrow or for the next sp

548
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:54,480
that he's going to play every eventor he's going to

549
00:26:54,519 --> 00:26:57,960
approach the WCB schedule the same as Sean Deep does

550
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,359
for the next five or ten years, I mean, is

551
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,720
anyone going to be shocked if he ultimately is the

552
00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:06,279
first one to chase down Phil Hammuth, and he could

553
00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:08,720
even do it now, doing what he does and being

554
00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:11,160
more selective, I certainly would not be surprised if that

555
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:19,359
happened at all, you know, so, given how well he performs, Benny,

556
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,799
I'm a little bit hesitant to say dominant, but given

557
00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:26,240
how well he performs in the mixed games, it's completely

558
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:29,839
within the realm of possibility that he's the one that

559
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,440
catches hellm youth. And you know, DEEB will probably be

560
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:37,440
somewhere close. You know. I'm just again, I don't want

561
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,160
to take away from DEEB, and I don't want to

562
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,799
give a back seat to deb and I don't want

563
00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:43,759
to say, hey, it's Benny and it's not deep. I

564
00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:46,000
just think that Benny should be on a little bit

565
00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:49,559
more equal footing, if not fully equal footing to DEEB

566
00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:53,039
when it comes to the conversation or the debate or

567
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:57,119
the discussion of who is ultimately going to run down

568
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,079
Phil Hammiuth. First, Dee's greatness is often been measured by

569
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,039
volume plus excellence. He cashes a crap ton. He always

570
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,599
contends for Player of the Year. I really can't I

571
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,799
mean I'm sure obviously there's been years, but I can't

572
00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:16,160
really recall a year where we're not like, yeah, Deep's

573
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,519
in the running Deeps and the running Deeps in the

574
00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:20,680
running you know, he gives himself more chances out there

575
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,319
than almost anyone else. I mean, it's probably who Texas

576
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,720
Mike Michael Manchek is the only other one that who

577
00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:31,319
approaches it like this, you know, but I think Deep

578
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,200
is still the top dog in that category. You know,

579
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,680
Benny is more about his conversion rate, if you want

580
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,200
to put some sort of metric on it. He doesn't

581
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,480
need a crap ton of cashes. He's like he's a

582
00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:47,640
little bit more selective while still putting in a really

583
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,240
good amount of volume. And then when he's in the

584
00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:56,559
running Deep, Benny is a closer. So it's it's just crazy,

585
00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:59,960
you know, to have these two in this sort of air,

586
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,599
not only kind of going head to head with each other.

587
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,319
You know, you've got Benny wins number nine, Deep comes

588
00:29:05,319 --> 00:29:07,680
back right, right back and wins number nine right, but

589
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,359
then you also have them both kind of converging as

590
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,240
in my opinion, these are the two front runners to

591
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,039
chase down Phil help me. You know, if anyone is

592
00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:18,119
ultimately able to chase him down or that first person

593
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,400
to chase him down. Right, they're both taking a little

594
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,559
bit different roads to get to the same destination. But

595
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:26,240
I think it's just becoming a little bit harder to

596
00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:29,640
sort of forget Benny Glauser or put him to the side.

597
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:32,880
You know, I think he should start being mentioned much

598
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,640
more so, right alongside Sean Deep whenever the conversation turns

599
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,440
to you know, hey, who's gonna catch helme first? If

600
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,400
anyone does it, who's it going to be? You know,

601
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,599
I think these two are neck and neck with each other.

602
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,240
Another player who we could we could we could talk

603
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,039
about this with is Michael the Grinder and is Rocky

604
00:29:58,079 --> 00:30:00,680
because he just won his ninth bracelets in the ten

605
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:04,799
k Poo Championship. He topped a field of eight hundred

606
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,440
and thirty six entries to win one million, three hundred

607
00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:14,319
and fifty thousand dollars. Now, this this run for Miss

608
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,240
Rocky was out of control. Four day tournament. He's the

609
00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:20,680
chip leader at the end of day one, he's a

610
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,079
chip leader at the end of day two, he's a

611
00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:23,680
chip leader at the end of day three, and then

612
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,119
he wins the tournament going into the final day, similar

613
00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:30,720
to how he went into the final day in the

614
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:34,000
WSP Main Event last summer when he won that damn thing.

615
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:36,720
He had that huge chip lead and then he joked

616
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,440
that it was going to take an hour to end it.

617
00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:41,839
He ended it in an hour. Here he goes into

618
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,640
the final day. He had more than forty million in chips,

619
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,759
which was more than one hundred and sixty big blinds.

620
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:52,559
Second place had five million, and third place had four

621
00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:54,279
and a half million, or his five and a half

622
00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:55,759
million and four and a half million, twenty two big

623
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:59,799
blinds in eighteen big blinds respective, he had in absolutely

624
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:04,279
bonkers chip lead entering the final day. And I know

625
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:06,720
I referenced the end of day chip leader because that's

626
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:09,079
just right now. That's what's easy for me to look up.

627
00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:10,559
I can pull up poker News, I can go to

628
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:13,160
the live reporting section, you know, I can quickly see

629
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,640
I can click on the days. I can quickly see

630
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,440
who finished the day as the chip leader. It was

631
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:20,400
miss Rocky all of the days, I honestly have. I

632
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,160
can't tell you if he dropped out of the chip

633
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,599
leader because he was freaking steamroll in this damn tournament

634
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,759
from start to finish. It was wild. It was absolutely wild.

635
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:33,480
I've when he won the main event last year. Now,

636
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,200
kind of once he got the chip lead at the

637
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,519
final table, he started to kind of steam roll and

638
00:31:39,559 --> 00:31:42,079
it was definitely his tournament. But up until that point,

639
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:43,720
like there were times when he was all in, he

640
00:31:43,799 --> 00:31:45,640
had to get lucky, he had to survive that sort

641
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,079
of stuff like this was just Miss Rocky in the

642
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,559
driver's seat the whole fing time. It was crazy. And

643
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,960
in such a volatile game like PLO. Now, I know

644
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,039
you can play it with a little bit less of

645
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,359
a volatile strategy, you know, but one I don't think

646
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:03,759
Michael Miss Rocky is ever doing that too. I'm just

647
00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:06,279
saying that, like you know, a turncard or a river car,

648
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,000
that it can change anything in PLO, and there's so

649
00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:12,480
much happening in the hands, and this guy just absolutely

650
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:16,880
sun run this thing from start to finish. It was crazy.

651
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,440
Now one of the reasons why I don't think that

652
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,640
I can quite get there in terms of putting Miss

653
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,559
Rocky on the same footing as Deep and Glaser in

654
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,920
terms of like who's gonna run down Phil helm Me first,

655
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:33,599
even though they all have nine Bracelets. It's just because

656
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,359
the volume I don't think is fully there with with

657
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,119
Michael the Grinder, Miss Rocky, you know, so I can't

658
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,759
quite put him there. Now. I guess you could probably

659
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:45,000
make up for the lack of volume as it pertains

660
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:46,640
to the other two, as it compares to the other two,

661
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,839
with the fact that, you know, when when Grinder gets hot,

662
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,599
there is absolutely nothing like it in poker. It's also

663
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,519
super refreshing to see somebody as big of a star,

664
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,400
as popular as he is at and as a successful

665
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,039
as he is as Michael the Grinder Ms Rocky, who

666
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,599
celebrates like he's been playing poker for six months and

667
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,160
this is his first goal. Bracelet win. You see jumping

668
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,480
up and down, arms wide, screaming, jumping into the arms

669
00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:22,359
of his supporters, yelling like this guy fucking loves it,

670
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,319
and it's that energy when you see it out there,

671
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,920
is incredible. If you guys haven't seen the winner interview

672
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,240
that we did, check it out on the Poker Grol

673
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:36,519
social media channels. Our guys Antonio Abrego Enrique Malfavon. They

674
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,279
caught the winning moment that I'm kind of trying to

675
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:43,000
describe right now, and it was just it's awesome to see.

676
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:46,200
Not only does he act like that, but Grinder's got

677
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,079
this whole crew that comes with him and they're so

678
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:51,880
bought in to all of it too, Like, you know,

679
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,759
it's it's really refreshing because I would like to think

680
00:33:56,759 --> 00:33:59,039
that if I were to win a bracelet, or if

681
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:03,039
I would win any tournament, Fuck Jesus, I would want

682
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:04,599
to I would act like that, you know, because I

683
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:07,359
would just be so elated, so over the top with

684
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:09,840
with actually accomplishing that. And this guy just keeps on

685
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,559
doing it and keeps on doing it, and it's still

686
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:13,599
it's like it's his first time and it is just

687
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,159
so awesome to see. In a way, I kind of

688
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,440
wonder if we take this guy for granted with how

689
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,159
freaking cool he is now, I know, yeah, we can

690
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,760
make fun of his play sometimes and he's not exactly

691
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,199
the most studied Solver era type of player, you know,

692
00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:37,639
but he's freaking awesome. He's the freaking Grinder. Like it's

693
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,599
just it's it really is so cool. And it's also

694
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,719
like when you see a run like this, you could

695
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,639
almost tell, like at least I felt like I could tell,

696
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,320
like you saw he came he bought in on day

697
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,639
one he got a huge stack and you were just

698
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,119
kind of thinking, like, he's gonna win. I know, this

699
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:57,480
tournament has to go three more days. I know how

700
00:34:57,519 --> 00:35:00,599
tough this tournament is. You know, it's a k PLO

701
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:03,159
championship against well, first of all, the field size is

702
00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:05,760
more than eight hundred entries, right, that's not easy to

703
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,880
get through. Then as good as these players are in

704
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,079
this tournament, I mean, it's just like, yeah, he's gonna win.

705
00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:15,039
You can sense it. You're like, yeah, this is what

706
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:18,119
grinder does. And I feel like he can also sense it.

707
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:21,559
You know. It's it's kind of like smelling blood in

708
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:23,840
the water, but it's a little bit more fun and playful.

709
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,280
Then then that might be. You know, just over the

710
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,199
last fifteen months, he won that fifty k PPC for

711
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,400
a fourth time, right, that's just insane. Then he wins

712
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,960
the main event, of course, then he snapped and ducted

713
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,079
it into the Boker Hall of Fame on the set.

714
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,400
You know. Then he follows it up this summer by

715
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,679
winning I mean, one of the toughest PLO fields of

716
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,159
the summer. I know that there's higher buying PLO events,

717
00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:50,320
but when you couple the price point here of ten

718
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,079
k with the fact that it had eight hundred and

719
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:54,639
thirty six entries. I mean, this probably is the toughest

720
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:56,719
ten k PLO or the toughest PILO tournament of the

721
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,239
summer to win, and he just ripped through it like

722
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,559
it was nothing, you know, So we got to give

723
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:06,719
him as rocky his flowers. He's an absolute gem in

724
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,639
the industry. Ever since he came in and was doing

725
00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:13,360
his damn thing on the World Poker Tour back in

726
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,039
the day, the Grinder like he has been. He has

727
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,760
been awesome from start to finish. And I know for

728
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,079
some time there he did kind of dip out of

729
00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:24,480
the spotlight. He wasn't around as much.

730
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: Whatever.

731
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: He's fucking back and it's so great that the Grinder

732
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,840
is back and having the success like this.

733
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 2: You know.

734
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: Yes, the style is unconventional. Yes, he doesn't maybe fit

735
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,800
the mold of everyone else out there that's doing the

736
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,800
whole solver stuff and trying to be excellent and learn

737
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,800
theory and all that sort of crap. But the guy

738
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,400
is just an absolute freaking beast. Like it's just so

739
00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:53,440
much fun. Nine bracelets, four PPC's. He's the WSB Main Event,

740
00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:57,800
champ Wild Poker Hall of Famer. You know, he's won

741
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,480
in all these different games, he's got the WPT success

742
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,679
on top of it all. Like there are few people

743
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,519
that have had that type of career anywhere, like that

744
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,599
type of success. It's not just poker, it's like anywhere

745
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:14,159
winning all that that type of stuff. Like, you know,

746
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,800
it's just I just I kind of want to just stop.

747
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,679
And I know it's easy to kind of laugh and say,

748
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,480
like he's just grinder. He's doing grinder things. Yeah, he

749
00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:25,840
got hot for three or four days or whatever, But

750
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,480
I don't know, I feel like we need to stop

751
00:37:27,519 --> 00:37:31,760
and kind of just appreciate this thing because we're never

752
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,760
going to see another Grinder ever, Like there is never

753
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,280
going to be another Michael Musaki ever. So I mean,

754
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,360
it's just so cool and I hope he's just around forever.

755
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,400
I really hope he is, and I hope he's still

756
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,239
winning because it's simply the best thing in the world

757
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,199
to watch when it happens. One winner that we haven't

758
00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:51,719
talked about yet, but of course we have to talk

759
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,599
about her, that is sky Chen. She captured her first

760
00:37:56,079 --> 00:38:01,119
World Series of Poker Brasa by winning the record setting

761
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,679
Ladies Championship one K buy in here fourteen hundred and

762
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:11,360
seventy five entries. Chen, who is a former software engineer,

763
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,880
she won one hundred and ninety four thousand dollars. This

764
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,320
event continues to perform really well. You know, I mentioned

765
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,719
the fact that it was a record setter. It topped

766
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,639
last year's record setting field by around one hundred entries,

767
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,639
and Chen is on top of them all. Plenty of

768
00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:34,199
players every single year they chase bracelets, chase bracelets, chase bracelets.

769
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,800
Of course, Chen finally got her. She did it on

770
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,039
the big stage. This was live stream for multiple days.

771
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,360
She made what has to be the call the summer,

772
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,320
has to be maybe the call of many summers when

773
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,360
she it was heads up against Aubrey Williams, and this

774
00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:57,159
freaking hero call was outrageous. I mean, if one of

775
00:38:57,199 --> 00:38:59,639
those hands were you got to look at the opponent

776
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:01,800
as well, and in this case Aubrey Williams, and you

777
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,480
have to say the bluff you tried to pull was awesome.

778
00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:07,840
You just have to tip your cap to the other

779
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,760
player because they just did you one better.

780
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: The hand.

781
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: If you guys haven't seen it, go find it. It's

782
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:17,480
during heads up play. We got Queen nine for Williams.

783
00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:19,599
Queen nine of diamonds. We have a ten of clubs

784
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:23,039
for Chen. Williams starts by limping the button. Chen raises

785
00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:24,920
from the big lines. She makes it three point seven

786
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,800
big blinds. Williams calls in position jack eight three two hearts.

787
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,480
So Williams flops a gutter with an over. Chen's got

788
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,320
the back door as ace high. It goes check check

789
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,280
turn is the deuce of clubs. Chen checks Williams bet

790
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,199
what I think was two thirds pot. Chen makes the call, okay,

791
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,000
seems pretty fine, and standard pot is I think around

792
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:55,320
five million, maybe a little bit more. On the river

793
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:00,480
rivers is seven of clubs. Chen checks Williams jams for

794
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:05,440
one hundred and fifty percent pot and and Chen is like,

795
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,360
like I think she said, like why why all in?

796
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,800
Why did why didn't you just bet? And she she

797
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,480
tank calls with a high with ace ten. Williams shows

798
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,519
the Queen nine for Queen high and Chen was just

799
00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:21,000
good there and that allowed her to take a big

800
00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:23,880
chip lead and ultimately she was able to go on

801
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,079
to win the tournament from there. You know, Aubrey Williams

802
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:31,199
could never fully recover. But man, that was an outrageously

803
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,760
good call. Like an outrageously good call. I mean you

804
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,800
got to give it to Williams as well for absolutely

805
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,199
going for it there, and I mean it almost worked.

806
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,000
But ultimately Chen was just a little bit better on

807
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:45,159
this day. She said to Poker News in the Winter interview.

808
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:47,920
This is Chen talking about this specific call. She said,

809
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,760
it really felt like she was representing something extremely strong.

810
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,559
I just kept thinking and kept thinking, kept thinking, Oh,

811
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:57,440
just like, this doesn't make any sense in terms of

812
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,679
how it goes. The sizing just seemed like it was

813
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,679
meant to intimidate me. I'm definitely not as studied or

814
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,559
as experienced as she is. And so if I'm going

815
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:08,840
to take a fifty to fifty to try to win

816
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,280
a tournament, right there, this is going to be the moment.

817
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,599
Well it was the freaking moment, and holy crap, that

818
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,119
was an absolutely incredible call from sky Chen. And then

819
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:22,079
she goes on to win the one hundred and ninety

820
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:26,559
four thousand dollars and she is the Ladies Championship winner.

821
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,519
She outlasted fourteen hundred and seventy four other players in

822
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:34,519
this event, and that is a career defining moment for her.

823
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:39,239
I mentioned former software engineer. Interesting that I was also

824
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,280
reading through the Poker News recap that she came to

825
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,360
Vegas not to play poker. She came with friends who

826
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,800
were and those friends were playing in a majong tournament

827
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:51,960
and she was, I guess, just tagging along, hanging out whatever,

828
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,880
and then decided to take her shot. She's mostly a

829
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,480
cash game player, doesn't play many many tournaments, you know,

830
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:00,840
dabbles here and there, but she's worked her way up

831
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:06,880
to play five to ten cash. She recently took a break,

832
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,800
or she stepped away from her tech career. She was

833
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,880
going to do some traveling, just take a break from

834
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,119
it all and whatever. Well, I mean maybe now she's

835
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:16,239
just going to be a poker player. With the performance

836
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,199
like this, and one hundred and ninety four thousand dollars

837
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,920
richer of course, So congratulations to sky Chen for the

838
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,480
run there. Now, I do want to touch quickly on

839
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:30,639
the situation that did come up with second place finisher

840
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:32,880
Aubrey Williams. You know, because I know that that did

841
00:42:33,079 --> 00:42:37,639
generate a lot of discussion, a lot of bad discussion.

842
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,880
I will say Aubrey Williams is a transgender woman. You

843
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,840
guys can look up some articles some stuff with her online.

844
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:48,960
I think the view that we need to take here

845
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,679
at least this is my view and whatever my podcast.

846
00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:54,599
So I'm going to say how I feel. If someone's transitioned,

847
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,519
if they live as a woman, if they recognized as

848
00:42:57,519 --> 00:42:59,679
a woman, if they recognize themselves as a woman, you know,

849
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:04,159
then why can't she play? And honestly, let's just not

850
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,199
be assholes about it on the internet. We all know

851
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,079
the Internet is the Internet and it can be assessable

852
00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:09,679
of a place. But I mean, come on, people, like,

853
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,800
let's we can be better.

854
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,119
Speaker 2: I know.

855
00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. I just feel like I

856
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,639
have to tell people. It's like, why do we have

857
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:19,119
to turn it into this thing. She's competing in the

858
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:23,039
same tournament structure as everyone else. And over the years,

859
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:26,079
you know, we've seen men enter the Ladies' tournament or

860
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:29,840
the ladies Championship simply because they have this weird rule

861
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,159
that you can't exactly keep them out, you know. But

862
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:34,719
they do have a rule in place that if you

863
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,800
are a man and you answer you're you have to

864
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,960
pay ten k instead of the one k the women

865
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,840
get the nine k discount, you know, all that sort

866
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,400
of stuff, and people have taken advantage of that and

867
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,400
they've tried to play but that's acting in bad faith

868
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,960
and runs completely against what the spirit of this event

869
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,519
is supposed to be. In this sort of situation, one

870
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:56,800
of the things that I tend to look towards is,

871
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,760
you know, how are the people in the tournament, this

872
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,480
subsection of the community. You know, how are they reacting,

873
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:07,199
what are they saying? And I think listening to those

874
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,280
people is oftentimes going to be the right way to

875
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,800
go about things versus, you know, just trying to stand

876
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,199
here and be the one yelling about something that's you know,

877
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:21,119
I don't know. Different to me, if the women in poker,

878
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,119
and especially the ones that played this tournament, if they

879
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,239
are fine with this, and if they feel someone belongs

880
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,920
and if they welcome her into the field, then that

881
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,199
carries a lot of weight with me. Then some random

882
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,880
outrage from some dudes sitting in his basement at home, like,

883
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,039
I don't care about that shit. You know, this is

884
00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:41,840
pretty straightforward. People should be allowed to live their lives

885
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,760
as they choose, and especially so when they're not harming

886
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,719
anyone else, Like if this isn't harming anyone else then

887
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,199
who cares? Okay, it's wildly disappointing to see the amount

888
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,000
of hate that is levied on people and gets directed

889
00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:01,199
at people coming from the on world. And we all

890
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,079
know and we all say it that, you know, online,

891
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:09,920
this type of hatred, bullying, whatever, Like it's extremely bad, yes,

892
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,679
but part of that is like this stuff is online.

893
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,559
They are streaming this stuff in YouTube, It is on

894
00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:19,199
social media, so there are chats, there are conversations, you know,

895
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,519
there are places to go and talk and put stuff

896
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:24,199
out there. But you don't have to agree with someone,

897
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,360
you don't have to share the same life experiences as

898
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,400
someone to just treat them with basic decency, Like why

899
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,079
are we out here trying to like dehumanize people over

900
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:34,239
something that has nothing to do with you, honestly nothing

901
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,079
to do with you. So attacking a person simply for

902
00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:39,000
existing or living their life isn't something that I will

903
00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:41,199
ever get behind. And if that's you out there, and

904
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,239
if you're the one like throwing that shit around and

905
00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:46,079
you know, levying those comments, et cetera, I mean, just

906
00:45:46,159 --> 00:45:47,880
just grow up, right, just just grow up, take a

907
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,559
look in the mirror and just just grow up or

908
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,400
just better yet, just get offline and don't bother anyone.

909
00:45:59,559 --> 00:46:04,519
Matthew Higgins winning the one K Mystery Millions. Now this field,

910
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:07,639
remember we talked about it, twenty two thousand, eight hundred

911
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,280
and eleven entries. He turned the one k entry into

912
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:15,880
one million dollars, his first bracelet, his largest live score

913
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,480
to date. But he is a seasoned pro is Matthew Higgins,

914
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,039
and a lot of people had a lot to say

915
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,840
about Matthew Higgins in terms of like how well liked

916
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,960
he is around the circuit. You could see in his

917
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,519
winter photo that was I think forty or fifty people deep.

918
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,119
You know, a lot of people that like I've kind

919
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:37,400
of been around. They said, you know, oh yeah, you know,

920
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,480
Matt won that. Matt won that, like, you know, so

921
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:42,280
he's he's definitely out there and he's well liked. I

922
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:48,559
knew of Matthew Higgins, Okay, I didn't know exactly how

923
00:46:48,599 --> 00:46:55,000
well he performed in these big field, smaller Briyan Nolam

924
00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:57,760
Holden tournaments. Now, of course, nothing that I'm about to

925
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,440
get into is on the scale of a twenty two

926
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,599
thousand and eight, one hundred and eleven entry field that

927
00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:05,880
is their mystery millions, right, But this resume for Matthew

928
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:11,599
Higgins is outrageous. It's just absolutely outrageous. He won the

929
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,440
WSIBY Circuit Chalktaw main event in twenty twenty five I

930
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,920
think that was in November, for two hundred and eighteen

931
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,679
thousand dollars, probably eight hundred nine hundred entries in that one.

932
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 4: Right.

933
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: He wins the Dubasiby Circuit Tunica main event the year before,

934
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:28,159
twenty twenty four for one hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars,

935
00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:32,440
probably similar feel size. He also in twenty twenty four

936
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,599
he won the four hundred dollars Beau Ravage Heater for

937
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,599
two hundred and twenty two thousand dollars, a four hundred

938
00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:40,599
dollars tournament he won for two hundred and twenty two

939
00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:43,159
thousand dollars because it had four thousand, seven hundred and

940
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:48,239
four entries in that damn thing. Then he has twenty

941
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,679
twenty five I'm a I'm all over the place on

942
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,760
dates here, but whatever doesn't matter, twenty twenty fives Circuit

943
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,119
Cherokee four hundred dollars buying mini main he wins it

944
00:47:57,199 --> 00:47:59,679
for one hundred and thirty two thousand dollars because it

945
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,679
had three thousand, four hundred and three entries. Twenty twenty

946
00:48:02,679 --> 00:48:05,840
three WS to Be Circuit Cherokee. These these next four

947
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,760
things are all that the WS Top Circuit event in

948
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,920
Cherokee twenty twenty three, four hundred dollars Monster Sack event,

949
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:13,679
he wins that for ninety nine thousand dollars, had two

950
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,599
thousand and sixty one entries. Twenty twenty one, he wins

951
00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:18,440
a four hundred dollar Nolanan Hold Them event for one

952
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,320
hundred and eleven k because it had two thousand, four

953
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,000
hundred and thirty seven entries. Twenty eighteen, three hundred and

954
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:27,400
sixty five dollars buy in Nolanan Hold Him tournament. He

955
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,039
wins that for one hundred and one thousand dollars two thousand,

956
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:34,119
six hundred and eight entries. I mean, it's wild that

957
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:40,760
somebody can win those that big of poker tournaments in

958
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,599
such a relatively short period of time. I mean, how

959
00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:46,360
the hell you can get through fields like that and

960
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,679
constantly win. Then you if you look at his hand

961
00:48:48,679 --> 00:48:51,360
to mobby even more, He's got a second place in

962
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,679
a twenty twenty two WPT seminal hard Rock Tampa event

963
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,360
six hundred dollars buying Nolan At hold him second place

964
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,400
for two hundred and eight thousand dollars because the field

965
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,559
was four three hundred and sixty three entries, and then

966
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:08,679
another circuit main event Cherokee in twenty twenty four he

967
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,679
gets second for one hundred and sixty thousand dollars. I mean,

968
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,679
what in the world is this guy on. I mean,

969
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:15,840
somebody checked this guy for peds. I mean, holy crap, man,

970
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,360
Like this is freaking wild to have this success, Like

971
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,519
he won two circuit main events, he got second in

972
00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:26,320
another one. He's probably got other results that I didn't

973
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,480
even bother looking through because I was through, like, you know,

974
00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:32,519
a dozen already. Then he's got all this small buying

975
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:35,280
but multiple thousands of players and entries in the field.

976
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,280
I mean, this is just freaking wild, right. He told

977
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,960
Poker News afterwards that since that Chalkdaw main event win

978
00:49:40,039 --> 00:49:42,480
back in November, he was on about a three hundred

979
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,480
thousand dollars downs and now he rips off this this

980
00:49:46,519 --> 00:49:48,559
million dollar score for winning the mistery makes I mean,

981
00:49:48,599 --> 00:49:51,320
this is just freaking While Dominic Panka finished second for

982
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,960
six hundred and forty thousand dollars, David ODB Baker, friend

983
00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:58,239
of the Pod my Guy, seventh place for one hundred

984
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,800
and seventy six thousand dollars. Brian Smith fifth place or

985
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,440
two hundred and ninety thousand dollars, known as Smitty. You

986
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,079
guys might recall he played on one of the Venetian

987
00:50:08,119 --> 00:50:11,960
tournaments that that Remco and I commentated on. Great Dude.

988
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,440
He pulled one hundred thousand dollars bounty in this tournament

989
00:50:16,199 --> 00:50:18,840
and it was going for some charity, which is awesome.

990
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,800
You know. He gave a little speech about how he

991
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,400
was pointing for the charity and then he just rips

992
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,559
off six figures hunter K. So a lot of cool

993
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:26,239
stuff that came out of the Mystery millions. But I mean,

994
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,000
just holy hell, this this resume for Matthew Higgins. I mean, Jesus,

995
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:31,519
I don't know how you do that in poker. It's

996
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:34,639
absolutely wild. Speaking of wild, something that I forgot to

997
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:37,880
talk about maybe a week or so ago, made five days.

998
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: I don't even know.

999
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: Elis Parsonen He got his second bracelet this summer, his

1000
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,079
third overall. He won the twenty five k half Nolan

1001
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:48,159
at Hold Him Half PLO of and he topped a

1002
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,320
field of two hundred and fourteen entries to win one million,

1003
00:50:51,679 --> 00:50:57,280
one hundred and seventy two one thousand dollars. Earlier before this,

1004
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,920
he won the twenty five K POO for more than

1005
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:02,360
two point one million dollars. I mean, this is just

1006
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,239
wild for this guy to win these two tournaments, but

1007
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,280
here he is doing it. I mean, hello, Elis parsonen,

1008
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,880
you know. And now with these two wins, he has

1009
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,239
to be somewhere in the running for the Basis Player

1010
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,880
of the Year race. I mean, I don't think anyone

1011
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,719
would have guessed that that Elis Parson would be in

1012
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,599
the mix for the Basby Player of the Year, but

1013
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,440
here he is. And when you figure that, you know

1014
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,800
there's there's some big buying stuff coming up. Then you know,

1015
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,360
I think he's got a shot, right, you know, I don't.

1016
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,519
I'm not going to sit here and exactly handicap the

1017
00:51:31,519 --> 00:51:33,840
whole thing. But coupled with you know what's going to

1018
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,159
be coming at Paradise in December, if he goes there,

1019
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,920
you know a lot of big buying Nolan and Holdeman

1020
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,079
and polo stuff. Yes, he's a PLO specialist, but he

1021
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:44,000
also plays the big buying Nolan Holdham stuff. So maybe

1022
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,760
we'll see a run and another kind of a surprise

1023
00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:48,559
Player of the year guy here in Elis Parson and

1024
00:51:48,679 --> 00:51:52,119
he defeated finished legend U haa Helpi in second place.

1025
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:55,960
Sean Winter came close again third place. There you had

1026
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,360
Lou Garza, he was the defending champion of this event.

1027
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,599
He got sixth place. Tande Ogranu got seventh place. Dan

1028
00:52:01,679 --> 00:52:05,320
Lindy got eighth place in the five K six Max

1029
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:10,000
that wrapped up on Wednesday. Marcus Gonsalvez top day field

1030
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:12,880
of fourteen hundred and two entries to win his first

1031
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,239
bracelet almost a million dollar score nine hundred and seventy

1032
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,480
nine thousand dollars. He's mainly a cash game player, is Gonsolvez.

1033
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,039
You might have seen him on some episodes of No Gamble,

1034
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:25,880
No Future Blasting Away. I think he was also on

1035
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,679
Cash to the Titans. Doesn't play many tournaments, plays somewhere

1036
00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:32,079
between like two and five a year. I actually played

1037
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:34,280
with him in the WSB main event a couple of

1038
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:40,960
years ago. My starting table was him, Frankie Brandon, Ryan

1039
00:52:41,039 --> 00:52:43,920
Brown was out there. That's when I first got worried

1040
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,480
of Ryan Brown. I had to fold the queens to

1041
00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:48,400
the aces of Ryan Brown. That table was very tough,

1042
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,679
but Marcus was at that table. Yeah, Marcus is a

1043
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:53,519
good dude. Again, mostly plays cash but comes out on top. Here.

1044
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,760
One note about this field size, I think it had

1045
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,400
a nice little boost fourteen hundred and two entries. I

1046
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,800
think it was a around eleven hundred maybe eleven fifty

1047
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,159
something like that last year, so maybe a little bit

1048
00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:09,679
of momentum here. Entering the WSP main event in the

1049
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,960
ten K seven card stud high low eight or better,

1050
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,320
Matt Grapman then known as Grapes. He won the event

1051
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,320
for four hundred and fifteen thousand dollars, top day field

1052
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,599
of one hundred and ninety entries. Jack Jermaine finished in

1053
00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:28,760
second place, Max Coleman third. Caitlin Komeski, she had a

1054
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:33,280
deep run in the Ladies Championship. I think she finished fourth,

1055
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,719
maybe fifth, and here she finishes fifth for ninety seven

1056
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,960
thousand dollars. Chris Brewer also final table this event, finishing

1057
00:53:42,039 --> 00:53:45,719
in sixth place. Matt Craven then second bracelet for him.

1058
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,559
He won the ten K stud backing at twenty fourteen,

1059
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:51,679
so it's been a while. It's been twelve years since

1060
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,760
Grapes is back in the waspy winner circle, but a

1061
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,239
year he is winning the prestigious ten K seven card

1062
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:02,039
stud High Low for four hundred and fifteen thousand dollars.

1063
00:54:02,159 --> 00:54:05,239
All right, it is time to check in on Daniel

1064
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,880
and Legrando's run. Five players are maining in thee hundred

1065
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,000
k PLO High Roller Dan and m'grano, at least according

1066
00:54:13,039 --> 00:54:16,920
to Poper News. Here he is the chip leader. He

1067
00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:19,840
leads ahead. It's a small lead ahead of Christopher Frank.

1068
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,599
You got Yosuki Mickey in the mix, Philip Sternheimer and

1069
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:28,760
Archer Martrosian rounding out the five more than two million

1070
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,119
dollars more than two point two million dollars up top

1071
00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:35,480
Sean Winter. Another deep run for mister Winter, but ultimately

1072
00:54:35,519 --> 00:54:37,440
falls short of winning the race at sixth place for

1073
00:54:37,519 --> 00:54:40,360
him for almost four and a thousand dollars. Jeremy Osmas

1074
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,079
had another final table run here, eighth place for two

1075
00:54:43,159 --> 00:54:46,239
hundred and sixty k. I believe they're going to be

1076
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,679
wrapping this one up at some point. It is it's

1077
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,800
twelve twenty eight am here, so I don't think they

1078
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:56,039
can be playing much longer. They'll probably wrap this one up,

1079
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,400
come back on Thursday, probably a four or five players

1080
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,239
left in go from there. But Dan Neggs, he is

1081
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,960
in the mix. He always talks about whether it's on

1082
00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:08,840
his vlogs, interviews, on various streams, you know, in person,

1083
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,440
whatever it is, how he loves PLO and he feels

1084
00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:15,880
like it suits him his style of play. So here

1085
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,920
he is in the hundred k PLO high roller looking

1086
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,719
to win bracelet number eight and well over two million dollars.

1087
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,760
But we'll just wellt to check in on the next

1088
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,840
episode for that one. Ws BE Main event is coming

1089
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:35,039
on Thursday. It is Day one A four starting flights.

1090
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:39,639
Of course, last year's Day one A drew nine hundred

1091
00:55:39,679 --> 00:55:42,360
and twenty three entries I think it was last year

1092
00:55:42,519 --> 00:55:47,000
was nine thousand, seven hundred and something. For the total

1093
00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:51,119
field size, I know numbers have kind of bounced around.

1094
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:56,199
I will say that the the Mini main Event saw

1095
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,079
a nice boost in numbers. So last year Martin Cabrell

1096
00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:02,519
of course won the WSP Mini Main Event ten thousand,

1097
00:56:02,559 --> 00:56:05,519
seven hundred and ninety four entries. This year they were

1098
00:56:05,559 --> 00:56:09,119
over twelve thousand. They had twelve thousand, five hundred and

1099
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:13,119
sixty entries. But now this is freeze out per starting fight.

1100
00:56:13,199 --> 00:56:15,320
Last year only had two starting flights. This year had

1101
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,519
three starting flights, one.

1102
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 2: A, one B, one C.

1103
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,199
Speaker 1: So that's why we did see the uptick. But still,

1104
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,280
you know it does show demand right that, you know

1105
00:56:24,199 --> 00:56:27,719
it does go up. So I think things are if

1106
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,320
we were thinking, you know a lot of this stuff

1107
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,880
was down. If it was down, it was down. Let's

1108
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:36,280
say fifteen to twenty percent. If people are thinking, okay, well,

1109
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,800
let's just assign a decline of fifteen to twenty percent

1110
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,119
for the WSP main event, I mean, that seems like

1111
00:56:42,119 --> 00:56:43,599
a big number. I don't think it's going to be

1112
00:56:43,639 --> 00:56:46,760
that big of a drop. So if it got nine

1113
00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:51,880
seven hundred and thirty five last year, I'm thinking ninety

1114
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,519
two hundred ish. I know, I was very bullish, you know,

1115
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,679
up until like two weeks ago. Probably I don't know.

1116
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,800
I mean, and we'll see. I just I don't know,

1117
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,639
you know. I just I feel like maybe it's just

1118
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,599
not gonna blow doors. That said, and I always say this,

1119
00:57:08,199 --> 00:57:10,199
if you get nine thousand injuries, if you get eight

1120
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,039
thousand enchries for a ten K freeze out I mean,

1121
00:57:12,039 --> 00:57:14,760
that's still a really really good number. Yes, of course,

1122
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,679
we're going to compare it to what it got the

1123
00:57:16,719 --> 00:57:19,280
past year, and you know, if it dips, that's not

1124
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,360
going to be two years in a row that it dips.

1125
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,400
Like I get it, you know, But I mean, I

1126
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,760
don't know. Things are. Things are just tougher now. You know,

1127
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,320
you have cryptos kind of down, bitcoins down. It's just

1128
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,920
expensive out there, right like all this sort of stuff.

1129
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,000
So I don't know. I mean, maybe there's gonna be

1130
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,800
a ton of satellite winners coming in that I'm just

1131
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,320
unaware of. We talked about the Masado Yokosawa stuff where

1132
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,760
he was bringing in two hundred plus people from Japan

1133
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,199
to play. So you know, if those people are gonna

1134
00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:47,840
all be playing the WSMI, an event that maybe haven't

1135
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,079
played in past years, maybe that's a nice little boost there.

1136
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:54,280
So I'll say, ninety one seventy seven is my number

1137
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,199
right now. Ninety one seventy seven. So I would say

1138
00:58:01,719 --> 00:58:04,679
the only the only real concern I would have if

1139
00:58:04,719 --> 00:58:08,199
I was the WSIP would be a number that's sub

1140
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:13,280
eight thousand. Anything above eight thousand, I feel like I

1141
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,320
can come up with twelve different reasons why it's that low.

1142
00:58:16,639 --> 00:58:20,000
So that's not that big of a deal at least

1143
00:58:20,119 --> 00:58:22,119
in my opinion. And I don't think anyone out there

1144
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:24,119
should should freak out. Let's say the number comes in

1145
00:58:24,199 --> 00:58:27,199
it I don't know, eighty four hundred, Okay, I don't

1146
00:58:27,199 --> 00:58:30,159
think we should all just freak out, right, you know, Yeah,

1147
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,320
we'll like to start getting it back up. And one

1148
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,920
of the things is interesting is obviously there's a lot

1149
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,719
to be made about the fact that the WSP is

1150
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:43,079
going to be on ESPN this year, specifically the WSP

1151
00:58:43,199 --> 00:58:48,039
Final Table is going to be live on ESPN. But

1152
00:58:49,039 --> 00:58:51,599
are people coming out this year just with that idea

1153
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,480
or is it going to take a year, maybe two

1154
00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:57,079
years for that to kick in, Meaning people see it

1155
00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:00,639
this year, they say, oh, yeah, I want to go

1156
00:59:00,719 --> 00:59:04,039
do that. Oh let's go, and then they start planning

1157
00:59:04,039 --> 00:59:06,159
for next year. And then that's when we see the

1158
00:59:06,199 --> 00:59:09,639
benefits of putting it on an outlet like ESPN to

1159
00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:12,800
really come home. So, you know, again, I don't think

1160
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,480
there's really going to be any sort of cause for

1161
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:18,320
concern this year unless it is sub eight thousand. But

1162
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,599
I'm not going there, you know, I'm up over nine

1163
00:59:20,639 --> 00:59:23,880
thousand still is where I'm at. I believe I'm going

1164
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,639
to play on Day one C on Saturday, which is

1165
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:31,440
July fourth. I feel like I have to play that

1166
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,440
that day because that's the day I played last year,

1167
00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:37,199
and I had a really good run at it. So

1168
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:42,239
hopefully I can just continue that on and do as

1169
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,960
good as I did last year. But of course, you know,

1170
00:59:45,039 --> 00:59:47,199
let's not try and have any sort of crazy expectations

1171
00:59:47,239 --> 00:59:50,559
with this behemoth of a tournament that is coming up.

1172
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,119
Speaking of the mini main event, twelve five hundred and

1173
01:00:01,199 --> 01:00:04,880
sixty entries, I finished in one hundred and twenty sixth

1174
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,320
I finished in one hundred and twenty six and I busted.

1175
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,599
Let me look what time I busted, because I texted

1176
01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:18,119
my sweat thread that I busted at four to twenty

1177
01:00:18,159 --> 01:00:22,079
five PM, So it's twelve thirty four am, so it's

1178
01:00:22,119 --> 01:00:25,519
been about eight hours. A little bit more than eight hours.

1179
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:32,360
I have just never felt like I have blown a

1180
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,480
spot more than this one. Now on the drive home

1181
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:38,760
and listen, if you guys don't want to hear about

1182
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,920
me talk about this shit, then just turn the podcast

1183
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,320
off and I'll see on the next episode. But as

1184
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,119
I've said before, I'll say again, this is my podcast.

1185
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:47,000
I'll talk about what I want. This is a bit

1186
01:00:47,039 --> 01:00:48,679
of a therapy session as well for me. On the

1187
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,679
drive home, you know, it takes me whatever twenty minutes

1188
01:00:50,719 --> 01:00:54,639
to get home. Let's say I'm just thinking, like, man,

1189
01:00:55,119 --> 01:00:58,760
I didn't need to bust like I did. Now on

1190
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:04,119
the other side, I'm thinking, well, one, you're gonna make mistakes, Okay,

1191
01:01:04,239 --> 01:01:06,639
that's just gonna happen in pokers. You can't expect to

1192
01:01:06,679 --> 01:01:09,559
be perfect, and I'm certainly nowhere near perfect as a

1193
01:01:09,559 --> 01:01:12,639
poker player. Like I try and improve, I try and

1194
01:01:12,679 --> 01:01:16,119
get better. But yeah, I screwed this up and I

1195
01:01:16,199 --> 01:01:19,639
misread kind of a situation and how I assessed a player.

1196
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,920
I went for a bluff and I bluffed into the

1197
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,920
stone nuts. I was drawing stone dead when I put

1198
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,920
the money in on the flop, stone dead, okay, which

1199
01:01:29,239 --> 01:01:31,880
is about the most dejecting feeling in the universe. When

1200
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,519
you just go all in the person calls, they turn

1201
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:41,079
their hands. When somebody who is a decent to good player,

1202
01:01:41,519 --> 01:01:45,519
you know, or better, when you go all in against

1203
01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:47,800
them and they look back at their cards, you just

1204
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,480
fucking know that they have it and they're just verifying

1205
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,400
quickly that they have it like they either if it's

1206
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,639
pre flopped, they probably have vases or kings, and if

1207
01:01:54,639 --> 01:01:56,679
it's on the flop, they just have like the nuts.

1208
01:01:56,679 --> 01:01:59,119
This person just had the enough flush and I'm just

1209
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:02,239
out of out the door. So that's dejecting, like because

1210
01:02:02,239 --> 01:02:04,679
you're just like I can't even and like the person's hand.

1211
01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:06,840
I couldn't even hit like runner runner or straight flush

1212
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,840
or like something insane. So I was literally just stone out.

1213
01:02:10,039 --> 01:02:11,960
I was like, well, okay, sweet, see you later. Blew

1214
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:13,320
that one.

1215
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: Now.

1216
01:02:14,039 --> 01:02:17,079
Speaker 1: The positive thing that I would try and tell myself

1217
01:02:17,159 --> 01:02:20,639
is like we're down to one hundred and twenty six

1218
01:02:20,679 --> 01:02:23,880
players or whatever it is. I mean, the average sack

1219
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,840
is like fourteen big blinds. It's an absolute hit show,

1220
01:02:27,159 --> 01:02:30,320
Like you have no play in this tournament whatsoever. Which listen,

1221
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,280
I don't mind. You know, I've played a lot of

1222
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,639
dailies around town. You play a lot of stuff online

1223
01:02:35,639 --> 01:02:38,039
where it just gets to be like this, everyone's short

1224
01:02:38,039 --> 01:02:40,800
at the end and it's just whatever that said, you

1225
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:45,000
do have to adjust because fourteen big blinds is you know,

1226
01:02:45,079 --> 01:02:47,079
it's the new twenty it's the new twenty five. Like

1227
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:49,440
you just have to adjust, and I busted when I

1228
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,280
had I had eleven or twelve big lines. So on

1229
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:53,880
one side, I'm like, you know what, I kind of

1230
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,559
have to The positive thing I would tell myself is like,

1231
01:02:57,639 --> 01:03:00,519
you have to kind of make you have to take

1232
01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:02,760
a spot if you think you have it. Maybe I

1233
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,079
don't know. That's if I was trying to, you know,

1234
01:03:07,679 --> 01:03:10,199
paint this with rose colored glasses. But I just I

1235
01:03:10,199 --> 01:03:11,920
don't know. I didn't need to do what I did,

1236
01:03:12,079 --> 01:03:22,280
and I have been happy or content with I think

1237
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:26,320
every single decision that I have made except for this one.

1238
01:03:26,599 --> 01:03:30,320
And it came in one of the biggest spots.

1239
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:30,679
Speaker 4: Now I know.

1240
01:03:30,719 --> 01:03:33,239
Speaker 1: I had that deep run in the Millionmaker as well,

1241
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,719
and that was obviously a big spot. I ultimately just

1242
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,039
lost a flip at the end ace King to nine

1243
01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:43,119
and that was that this one. Yeah, it just it's

1244
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:46,159
also like the way that this last day went. I

1245
01:03:46,199 --> 01:03:48,320
came in with sub ten big blinds, had like nine

1246
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,599
point seventy five big blinds. The first hand delt it

1247
01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:56,199
goes raise jam I jam from the small blind raiser folds.

1248
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,280
The guys got kings, I got eight's. I had the

1249
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,440
eight of spades six five, four, all spades, I brick out.

1250
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,320
I have two big blinds. I spin that shit up

1251
01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:09,159
to forty seven big blinds, and I'm like, here we go.

1252
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,360
I am sun running this tournament, like let's go. Then obviously,

1253
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,559
blinds go up, you lose some pots here and there.

1254
01:04:15,559 --> 01:04:17,519
Like whatever you get down, you get down. That's just

1255
01:04:17,519 --> 01:04:19,599
how it is. But I know that even when you

1256
01:04:19,639 --> 01:04:21,400
have like even when you can kind of see the

1257
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,519
finish line, you know where you came from, which is

1258
01:04:23,559 --> 01:04:25,960
a field of more than twelve thousand entries, you know

1259
01:04:26,039 --> 01:04:28,800
that you're getting down to what is almost double digits,

1260
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,039
you're approaching getting to one hundred left. You can almost

1261
01:04:32,119 --> 01:04:34,880
be like, okay, like is this gonna be the one?

1262
01:04:35,159 --> 01:04:37,559
And then you just you just make a bad decision

1263
01:04:37,719 --> 01:04:40,760
and you blow it. So I just I just I

1264
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,559
don't know. Maybe I'm just being too hard on myself.

1265
01:04:42,599 --> 01:04:44,719
And again this is my little therapy session, and I'm

1266
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:49,639
just annoyed. But I know when I say that I'm

1267
01:04:49,679 --> 01:04:52,559
happy or content with all of my decision points and

1268
01:04:52,599 --> 01:04:55,239
all of the hands that I have played up until

1269
01:04:55,239 --> 01:04:58,280
this point, that is not me saying that every hand

1270
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,719
that I've played up until this point is correct. I'm

1271
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:05,719
sure I've made four hundred mistakes, okay, But I also

1272
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,840
feel like in the moment, just trying to make the

1273
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:13,239
best decision possible. I have done that up until this point,

1274
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:17,039
and I made the worst decision possible because it ultimately

1275
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,559
caused me to bust out of the tournament. And I

1276
01:05:19,639 --> 01:05:21,559
just don't know what would happen if I would have

1277
01:05:21,639 --> 01:05:24,840
just played it differently, folded, moved on, not tried to

1278
01:05:25,239 --> 01:05:28,960
blah blah blah whatever. And like, I don't know, I

1279
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,400
punted it off. Man, what the f you guys want

1280
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,639
me to say? And I'm just I'm so mad at myself.

1281
01:05:33,719 --> 01:05:38,760
So I mean, I'll it's just in the moment, those

1282
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,760
couple hours right after you bust a tournament, in a

1283
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,840
big spot like this, you just feel it. I'm human.

1284
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,000
At the end of the day, I'll sleep on it tonight,

1285
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:46,760
I'll wake up in the morning, no big deal, and

1286
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,960
move on with my life. But right now, yes, it

1287
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:54,320
does sting. So that's that the positive side of things.

1288
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,159
I had that deep run. I think it was two

1289
01:05:57,239 --> 01:06:00,679
hundred and seventieth in the Millie Maker. I got eight

1290
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,599
hundred dollars there here, one hundred and twenty six out

1291
01:06:04,639 --> 01:06:08,079
of whatever, twelve thy five hundred and something got another

1292
01:06:08,119 --> 01:06:11,400
ak here. So so two really good runs, you know,

1293
01:06:12,559 --> 01:06:14,639
feel like I'm playing really good poker, feel like I'm

1294
01:06:14,639 --> 01:06:18,199
pretty locked in. So I am excited for the wously

1295
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,920
main event to come on. One of the things that

1296
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:26,639
I'm most happy with myself for whatever reason, and I've

1297
01:06:27,159 --> 01:06:29,559
you know, I've played a decent amount of poker in

1298
01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:33,079
my life, both live and online. I don't know, I would,

1299
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:38,840
for whatever reason when I play pots, my like I

1300
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,519
would breathe a little heavier, my pulse would go a

1301
01:06:41,559 --> 01:06:46,480
little bit faster, et cetera. That happened for the first

1302
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:51,800
two tournaments that I played this summer. I remember busting

1303
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:57,159
out of that second tournament and talking coming home, talking

1304
01:06:57,199 --> 01:07:00,639
to my good friend Moe Nuara, who's had success this

1305
01:07:00,679 --> 01:07:03,039
summer as well, you know, good for him. He was

1306
01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:05,599
staying with me, and I was just telling him about

1307
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:11,000
you know, like my basically my physical being, like my breathing,

1308
01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:14,480
my my palls, which you know you can probably see

1309
01:07:14,519 --> 01:07:17,440
in my neck and whatever like, and he was saying

1310
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,199
like how his his does the same thing, and obviously

1311
01:07:19,239 --> 01:07:20,559
a lot of people do that. I mean, it's just

1312
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,800
I even saw I was watching a clip the other

1313
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,400
day of on Daniel's log and he was breathing a

1314
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,440
little heavy in the spot. You know, not that necessarily

1315
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,199
means one thing or the other. It's just how your

1316
01:07:29,239 --> 01:07:34,440
body reacts. But ever since I had that conversation with mo, I,

1317
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:39,559
I don't know, I've stopped it and I just I

1318
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,039
guess I just go into every turn and I say, listen,

1319
01:07:43,199 --> 01:07:47,159
you're going to have certain decision points all throughout the day.

1320
01:07:47,239 --> 01:07:49,320
The only thing that you can do is make what

1321
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,800
you think is the best decision point in that moment.

1322
01:07:52,079 --> 01:07:54,960
And when you make the decision, it's over and done with.

1323
01:07:55,199 --> 01:07:57,280
Like if you go all in and the guy's in

1324
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,559
the tank, like it doesn't matter. Just there's no reason

1325
01:08:00,599 --> 01:08:03,480
for you to like kind of freak out inside or

1326
01:08:03,719 --> 01:08:06,079
have any sort of like physical build up or your

1327
01:08:06,119 --> 01:08:08,840
pulse going up or your blood pumping or whatever, because

1328
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,679
that decision is done and at the end of the day,

1329
01:08:10,679 --> 01:08:14,000
it's just poker. So I really had a lot of

1330
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:21,239
personal talks with myself, and that's probably one of the

1331
01:08:21,239 --> 01:08:24,119
best things I've gained from this summer of playing, is

1332
01:08:24,119 --> 01:08:27,000
that I'm just I don't know, I'm as calm as

1333
01:08:27,039 --> 01:08:30,520
I've ever been when I've played, so hopefully that means

1334
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,800
good things to come, you know, as I can continue

1335
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,720
to stay calm in the moments here. It wasn't a

1336
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,439
matter of like not being calm. I just went for

1337
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,119
a spot misreading a situation and it just freaking blew

1338
01:08:42,199 --> 01:08:45,640
up in my face. But yeah, I'm just frustrated with that.

1339
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,800
So I'm gonna think about it for another hour or

1340
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,279
so before I go to bed, and then I'll wake

1341
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:53,039
up and it'll be behind me. But that's the pod.

1342
01:08:53,079 --> 01:08:56,159
I appreciate you guys for staying with me. I know

1343
01:08:56,199 --> 01:08:57,920
I went on a little bit of a therapy session

1344
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,520
there at the end. Had a lot of winners to

1345
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,319
hit on as well. Thank you for Sean Dee for

1346
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:04,439
taking the time to chat with me. It's made of

1347
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,239
en time boys and girls, and I cannot freaking wait

1348
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,159
one more shout out that I have to do. Remko

1349
01:09:10,239 --> 01:09:14,479
Rinkoma dropped his second Face the Ace podcast with Andrew

1350
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,239
Lucky Chewy Lichtenberger. That is amazing. You can catch it

1351
01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:19,000
on the Poker YouTube channel. You can catch it on

1352
01:09:19,039 --> 01:09:22,239
this feed as well. And shout out to Chad from

1353
01:09:22,279 --> 01:09:25,079
Tennessee played with him today. He was very short. He

1354
01:09:25,159 --> 01:09:30,960
spun up some chips. I think he ultimately yeah, I

1355
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,880
think he ultimately busted out. I don't know where exactly,

1356
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,319
but it was a pleasure playing with you, Chad. I

1357
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:41,119
wish good things for you going forward, and hopefully you

1358
01:09:41,159 --> 01:09:45,560
know you keep hope you keep avoiding the little collusion

1359
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,880
at the table and can continue to go deep in

1360
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,439
some tournament. All right, that's gonna do it for me.

1361
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,680
My name is Donny Peters and this has been the

1362
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,840
Poker Go Podcast. Shout out to producer rich Ryan for

1363
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,560
getting this up. I will talk to you guys next time.

1364
01:10:02,039 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 3: Night on the Canny expressed