Speaker 1: Coming to you from the dining room table at East
Speaker 1: Barbary Lane. Welcome to a new episode of Full Circle
Speaker 1: the Podcast. A visit to our home where we squeeze
Speaker 1: a few headlines through our decidedly queer lens and see
Speaker 1: what happens. This episode is brought to you by Decanted
Speaker 1: jug Wine, brand new microphones, and a cacophony of rainbows.
Speaker 1: It's Pride Month. Ya.
Speaker 2: I am your host, Charles Tyson Junior, and I'm your.
Speaker 1: Host Martha Madrigal. Welcome to the Full Circle Table.
Speaker 2: Hi, Babby, Hi, it's been a minute. I know. Well,
Speaker 2: we've done several interviews.
Speaker 1: We have done several interviews, and we've been out doing
Speaker 1: the stuff. Yeah, we have not sat down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the first time we've sat down with
Speaker 2: our new setup.
Speaker 1: I know, I mean, well to talk to each.
Speaker 2: Other, talk to each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because we had this. The new setup looks
Speaker 1: all fancy, but we can't be on the same screen
Speaker 1: anymore when we interview people. I know, we have these
Speaker 1: arms and things.
Speaker 2: I had to get creative, but that's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to get used to spreading out because
Speaker 2: we're not going to get smaller.
Speaker 1: They're fun. Well, I hate it when transfermen spread, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Okay, coming in hot close.
Speaker 1: Those legs grow. No one needs to see that anyhore.
Speaker 1: It's June seventh, Sunday, it.
Speaker 2: Is, which means we are a week into Pride.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we are here in the dining room, not
Speaker 1: out there walking around. We're proud in the I'm proud
Speaker 1: in that. I'm pretty you know. I was talking to well,
Speaker 1: the president of our Peeple like chapter, but a friend,
Speaker 1: and I said, I'm I think I'm not doing you know,
Speaker 1: all the Pride celebrations because I don't have no reason
Speaker 1: to this year, Like I'm not working them for the
Speaker 1: first time in Jesus fourteen years. I'm not working Pride,
Speaker 1: you know, other than COVID and so. And then I
Speaker 1: listed all the things on the calendar in June and
Speaker 1: he was like, holy crap, you are doing Pride. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, just different things. So yeah, we're out
Speaker 1: and about in June. You just may not see us
Speaker 1: walking around in a sea of rainbows. But we're proud
Speaker 1: here exactly right.
Speaker 2: It is what it is.
Speaker 1: And we were proud last well, not last night, Friday night,
Speaker 1: Friday night at the Equality ball. I lost a day
Speaker 1: yesterday because we just kind of sat and veged.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did.
Speaker 1: Well. Friday. We was the Garden State Equalities Equality Ball,
Speaker 1: yes a lot, which was you know, fabulous fun as
Speaker 1: it always. You got to squad over Spallata. I did, who,
Speaker 1: of course is the cuntiest, Yes, And I didn't realize
Speaker 1: who I was talking to, so I went. I walked
Speaker 1: over to my friend Ash, who works for Garden State Equality,
Speaker 1: and they were talking to each other, and you knew
Speaker 1: right away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know who you are.
Speaker 1: I have hearing problems in a crowd, and I was
Speaker 1: looking for.
Speaker 2: A drink and so I didn't run a mission.
Speaker 1: It did not register to me, and I wondered why
Speaker 1: you didn't stay with me, because I was like at
Speaker 1: the bar ordering and you're still back there talking to
Speaker 1: this person in in, you know.
Speaker 2: In a fabulous hat and red pants, and I'm like, well, damn,
Speaker 2: that must be important.
Speaker 1: And then when I reconnected with you, you said, well that's Spallata,
Speaker 1: and I'm like fuck, And he probably said it to
Speaker 1: me and I didn't hear him. So I walked over
Speaker 1: and reintroduced myself, and so I'm sorry, I'm an idiot
Speaker 1: who needed a drink. But yeah, we we got to
Speaker 1: meet Spilata.
Speaker 2: Yes, lord, and the two of us had a thing, yes,
Speaker 2: and you know, because we were complimenting each other's outfits
Speaker 2: and he said, yes, I'm love it. I had my
Speaker 2: pinch stripe suit and he was like, I'm loving the
Speaker 2: pinstripes and he said, everyone like showed up to show out.
Speaker 2: And I just went, well, you know, and gave my
Speaker 2: little hand gesture and he just thought that was the
Speaker 2: best thing. And so that became our thing. Every time
Speaker 2: we saw each other, we just stopped and went, you know, right,
Speaker 2: you know. And then in one of his songs, he
Speaker 2: made a point of going.
Speaker 1: You know, I love that, And y'all have been corresponding since.
Speaker 2: Yes, because the Countiest was a fifteen minute fave a
Speaker 2: bit ago, right, and so I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: then you have to hear that. So I sent it
Speaker 2: to him and he was excited. So hopefully Spillata and
Speaker 2: I are going to continue to chit each hat back
Speaker 2: and forth.
Speaker 1: Yeah I love that quite so. Wonderful time. It's always
Speaker 1: a wonderful time, wonderful organization. Our friends who worked there,
Speaker 1: we were just talking about this earlier today with Kathy.
Speaker 1: I don't know when they don't work truly, because they're
Speaker 1: all at Bride and Hasbury Park today. They were all,
Speaker 1: you know, turned out at the ball on Friday night.
Speaker 2: Now that you mentioned, I don't think I've ever seen
Speaker 2: any of them standing still longer than four seconds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for real, for real, hard working folks who don't
Speaker 1: get the credit that they deserve. And Brielle as always
Speaker 1: gave some amazing words.
Speaker 2: That Brielle is. Her podium is just going to get
Speaker 2: bigger and bigger.
Speaker 1: We will have her on as soon as they I
Speaker 1: don't know, the board gets off their ass and makes
Speaker 1: her the official, the official executive director of Cliden State Equality.
Speaker 1: It is long overdue and we're all deserved. So I
Speaker 1: think as soon as that happens, and we're not in June,
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't, I am not going to ask her
Speaker 1: to sit down and breathe. I mean well, I am
Speaker 1: going to ask her to sit down bread, but not.
Speaker 2: With us, not during June.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can. We can chat in julyman, Right, we
Speaker 1: got to see ain't miss behavin. Yes we talked with
Speaker 1: the cast, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, we talked with with the cast and the director
Speaker 2: Amina Robinson.
Speaker 1: Who was amazing, yes, and knows Jesse Martin. I hope
Speaker 1: she sent my.
Speaker 2: Regards you need every time that always did I do.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but yeah. And and Ragier Raj I meant
Speaker 1: I believe I mentioned before, had come over after the
Speaker 1: performance and what a stellar, stellar performance and reminded me
Speaker 1: that we had met when he was Collins. Yes, in
Speaker 1: the Ardent Theater production of Rent where we took the
Speaker 1: folks and we had all the sofas up front, and
Speaker 1: it was amazing. And he just embodied that character so well.
Speaker 1: And and there's a he has a he has an
Speaker 1: essence about him that reminds me of of Jesse Martin.
Speaker 1: And I agree, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes you you fan girl.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: And we also spoke to Chabrolle Williams.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, that was a fantastic version. And Curtis
Speaker 1: who is the young man who uh had the the
Speaker 1: other male Curtis Harris, Curtis, this child is going to
Speaker 1: go places. Yeah, because Raj was he did the Ken
Speaker 1: Page role. Yes, Curtis did the Andre de Shields role.
Speaker 2: Chabro was the Armilia McQueen role. Right, So three of
Speaker 2: my favorites.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was great.
Speaker 2: So that episode is is uh, that's outing about available
Speaker 2: to listen to and I think you should absolutely absolutely,
Speaker 2: that was a lot of fun we did that.
Speaker 1: I don't think we listed everything we have been doing.
Speaker 1: Martha Graham Dance Company, we went and saw them. That
Speaker 1: was your first time seeing them live.
Speaker 2: That was my first time seeing Martha Graham Company live.
Speaker 2: We went because of course Tommy why he'd Evin had
Speaker 2: his world premiere.
Speaker 1: And who you spoke with, yes, and interviewed.
Speaker 2: Him the week before, so it was great to go
Speaker 2: see what a what a showstopper.
Speaker 1: That piece was incredible collaboration between Martha Graham and Philadenko.
Speaker 2: So literally some of the best dancers in the.
Speaker 1: World, absolutely fiercest, fiercest, best, strongest dancers, modern dancers in
Speaker 1: the world together on one stage and man oh it
Speaker 1: was powerful.
Speaker 2: And his whole thing was initially he wanted to do
Speaker 2: a section of just the Graham dancers in a section
Speaker 2: of just the Danko dancers, and then back and forth
Speaker 2: and back and forth. But he changed his mind on
Speaker 2: that and just mixed them together into one company and
Speaker 2: that was that was the move. And I told him
Speaker 2: after the show like that was beautiful. It was one band,
Speaker 2: one sound that.
Speaker 1: Was absolutely you couldn't tell who came from where, just
Speaker 1: fierceness on stage exactly the entire time.
Speaker 2: And the music, yes, dear God, Yes, the sound design.
Speaker 1: Sound design was amazing.
Speaker 2: And we got to see some uh Martha Graham repertory
Speaker 2: from the mid thirties, including night Journey, which was one
Speaker 2: of her seminal works based on the story of Oedipus. Yes,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 1: Felt like I was watching like an old musical or something,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's very much of its time, but.
Speaker 2: Right which you know, grants preservation. That's that is what
Speaker 2: that is, that is.
Speaker 1: That is but answer. And the gentleman who played out God, oh,
Speaker 1: he was sculpted from marble. I love Granet. We watched Ebony,
Speaker 1: I love what.
Speaker 2: We watched these things through different lenses.
Speaker 1: That's that's a nice way to say it. Yes we do.
Speaker 1: I was enthralled with.
Speaker 2: His movement, yes, but his movement, yes, but uh yeah.
Speaker 2: The seeing the gram dancers do the technique and the
Speaker 2: repertory on stage do what they do, that was spectacular
Speaker 2: for me. And it reminded me of just how strong
Speaker 2: you have to be to be a gram dancer. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: Like several of the movements they did. I was just like, yes,
Speaker 2: and they look just they're deceptively simple looking, but I
Speaker 2: knew what I was looking at, Like that one like
Speaker 2: rende gehen where they fanned the leg and then put
Speaker 2: it down and then they go into a split, but
Speaker 2: the hands are up on the shoulders. I was like,
Speaker 2: y'all better fucking work. I said, what did I say
Speaker 2: to you? Said? I know one thing for sure. Every
Speaker 2: single person on that stage can stop bullets with their stomach.
Speaker 2: This I know. Yes, you throw a dollar bill at
Speaker 2: any of them, you'll get four quarters back.
Speaker 1: Seriously, yeah, seriously, it's such powerful dancers.
Speaker 2: And one of those quarters will be two dimes in
Speaker 2: a nickel bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Great to see old friends, you know, which
Speaker 1: happens every time, you know, because Philadelphia's dance community is
Speaker 1: small but mighty, small but mighty and uh yeah, so
Speaker 1: it was a great time.
Speaker 2: And Tommy, Tommy Stars has been on the rise. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's that that put him in a different place because
Speaker 2: you know, after we you know, fanned over him, uh
Speaker 2: and we were leaving, I walked away just as someone
Speaker 2: walked up to him is well put together, older gentleman
Speaker 2: in a suit like, Hi, my name is blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah, and I'm from the Metropolitan blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he said. All I heard was
Speaker 2: Metropolitan and then I was walking away. But there is
Speaker 2: no organization that starts with Metropolitan that isn't important, probably
Speaker 2: and endowed. So whatever that conversation.
Speaker 1: Was hopefully well endowed. The piece is called in case
Speaker 1: of fire speak speak yes and if you ever get
Speaker 1: the chance to see it anywhere, do so, Yes, do so.
Speaker 1: It was just well.
Speaker 2: One of the things we talked about in the interview
Speaker 2: was part of the negotiation was both companies, Graham and Danko,
Speaker 2: each have the rights to the work. Yes, so it
Speaker 2: can be performed literally at any point on the globe
Speaker 2: at any time. Yeah, so there will be a chance
Speaker 2: to see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can think me later, but do because what
Speaker 1: incredible work. We have such amazing people around us, do
Speaker 1: you know, such amazing talent and just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the first time I think you got
Speaker 2: to see William Burden perform possibly.
Speaker 1: I mean, we know the Burden family, the Burden dance
Speaker 1: dynasty in Philadelphia, all the way down to.
Speaker 2: Little Robert who ain't so little.
Speaker 1: Who ain't so little anymore, and is an incredible.
Speaker 2: Dance dynasty that is but accurate. Actually yeah, from Daddy.
Speaker 1: On down, Daddy on down. Yeah, and Mama is right
Speaker 1: there too with everyone. Yeah. So yeah, Will Burdon was
Speaker 1: was in this and just incredible. His movement is always
Speaker 1: just incredible. I mean I've seen him tapes of him dancing,
Speaker 1: but yeah.
Speaker 2: And Will has been literally the poster child for Danko
Speaker 2: for years now. So if you see a Philadenko poster
Speaker 2: and you see a tall, lanky, light skinned black man
Speaker 2: with his leg one hundred and eighty degrees someone or beyond,
Speaker 2: that's Will.
Speaker 1: That's Will. Yeah. And it was great to tell him
Speaker 1: because it really he's fun to watch. Yeah, yeah, it's uh,
Speaker 1: he's fun to watch. Yeah. There are those who just
Speaker 1: have that stage presence where you're watching the whole piece,
Speaker 1: but you got your eye on one and a couple
Speaker 1: of times I realized, oh wait, that's Will, right, just yeah,
Speaker 1: because it happened.
Speaker 2: It was so because like, yeah, he's a different person
Speaker 2: on stage, because you know, off stage he's like, you know,
Speaker 2: silly and fun and sweet, but on stage, he becomes
Speaker 2: this like creature and I was like, oh, there's Will
Speaker 2: burd And you were like where I was like center stage,
Speaker 2: You were like oh shit, you know.
Speaker 1: And I would say that that is a a thread
Speaker 1: that runs through the family. Humility and genuine, genuine just decency, kindness,
Speaker 1: certainly confidence in their ability, but just such sweet sweet men.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're all doing what they what they love
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and it shows and.
Speaker 2: One fierce uh fierce lady because uh Tata is coming
Speaker 2: up in the dance world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I've met her or if
Speaker 1: I've met her. I haven't seen her dance. You probably have.
Speaker 2: You have probably seen her, but you probably haven't seen
Speaker 2: her dance. She's still working her way up, but she's
Speaker 2: they're all growing up to be amazing. The gene pool
Speaker 2: in that family, they're like Russian dolls.
Speaker 1: They kind of are. That's a burden that, Oh, that's
Speaker 1: a burden. Yeah, you can tell. They all look like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, Deirdre was in that mix, but they do
Speaker 1: look like their father.
Speaker 2: The only one who doesn't look exactly like the rest
Speaker 2: of them is James. But you talk to him for
Speaker 2: two seconds, he's a Burden like there it is.
Speaker 1: We love them, we love whole of them. And yeah,
Speaker 1: dance steynasty, I mean, you know, in terms of tap dance,
Speaker 1: Robert Burden in Philadelphia's synonymous you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, literally yeah, So.
Speaker 1: We have one of his paintings.
Speaker 2: We do.
Speaker 1: He was tap dancing some incredible art. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's still doing it, but we managed to get
Speaker 1: one of his beautiful pieces. And in our whole way, y,
Speaker 1: we didn't make a dime in the bar business, but god,
Speaker 1: we have a gorgeous art collection.
Speaker 2: That we could not afford.
Speaker 1: No chu, nope, nope, nope, nope. It is Pride twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six.
Speaker 2: It is, and everyone's getting into the festivities.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was the Haddon Township, which is kind of
Speaker 1: local to us parade and community day. It was Thursday
Speaker 1: and Friday. Didn't go to that either. I ran my
Speaker 1: Thursday night group and Friday we were at the Equality Ball.
Speaker 1: So and I my gown. Mm hm, I love that gown.
Speaker 1: I looked. I look good. I mean you look good
Speaker 1: to look Yes you did, thank you.
Speaker 2: We were very well put together.
Speaker 1: I dare say, yes, yes I did. You laced me
Speaker 1: in had a catechor set back. We ran into our
Speaker 1: friend at wait after Everything at what one in the
Speaker 1: morning or whatever time? Oh yeah, back from Asbury Park,
Speaker 1: and she's like spin and almost She's like bitch, thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fun. Yes, it's fun to go to get dressed
Speaker 1: up and do things and it is and be among amazing,
Speaker 1: amazing folks and.
Speaker 2: The movers and the shakers of it all.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I had done a panel with a bunch
Speaker 1: of folks, a multi generational panel on moving queer community
Speaker 1: forward and how that all works and the what is
Speaker 1: the world. I'm missing the Renough facilitator, but you moderator,
Speaker 1: the moderator, Thank you, Alonso. I believe we had a
Speaker 1: really nice conversation on Friday night about that panel. And
Speaker 1: they're doing some very cool stuff in Newark, and I
Speaker 1: was invited to go and see and be part of
Speaker 1: some of it. So I'm going to do that for sure.
Speaker 1: The spaghetti dinners that we started here in little South
Speaker 1: Jersey are spreading, and just the simple idea of building
Speaker 1: community in that way without agenda is spreading. You know,
Speaker 1: we know that we're even in Red States at this point.
Speaker 1: I love hops. They're getting themselves together and hanging out,
Speaker 1: and those natural relationships that come of that are incredible.
Speaker 1: They're incredible, and you know, I see it all the
Speaker 1: time every day. The mutual aid that comes out of
Speaker 1: trans folks knowing one another and seeing their common ground
Speaker 1: is it's fierce. It's fun to sit and watch. I
Speaker 1: was going through looking at some of the events that
Speaker 1: are going on, and I'm not going to be able
Speaker 1: to go to Yeah, but I'm like, that's my kid,
Speaker 1: and that's my kid, and that's my kid. Oh, and
Speaker 1: that's my kid. And they're all out there. They are
Speaker 1: doing the things, they're doing.
Speaker 2: The things, moving and shaking it there. I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. Yeah. Just just being a good
Speaker 1: is subversion.
Speaker 2: In this world, and that is why we do what
Speaker 2: we do.
Speaker 1: It's true. It's true. Why did you send me over
Speaker 1: a Hello? Fresh ad?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: What is this? Is their pride official statement?
Speaker 2: Yes, so several of the you know how the corporations,
Speaker 2: they all dip their toe into being allies for the
Speaker 2: month June. I do, and several of them continue on
Speaker 2: July first, some of them do. Yeah, And we'll talk
Speaker 2: about a few more of them when we get further
Speaker 2: into the show. But This one just tickled me from
Speaker 2: Hello Fresh. This is from their Instagram. It says official statement.
Speaker 2: We know eating isn't always a top priority this month.
Speaker 2: We respect that, but for those of you who are prepping,
Speaker 2: we have an extensive lineup of high fiber recipes available
Speaker 2: Happy Pride.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So Hello Fresh supports bottoming.
Speaker 1: Evidently, I'm not sure what to make of that, but hey,
Speaker 1: I'll take it in. I'll assume good spirit is intended
Speaker 1: and just take it at that.
Speaker 2: Hey, they care enough to understand the ins and outs,
Speaker 2: as it were, of bottoming, well enough to make a
Speaker 2: little jokey joke.
Speaker 1: No see, I think next level would have been for
Speaker 1: those of you who are constipated over Pride months.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have an extensive lineup FI for recipes available
Speaker 1: to perhaps adjust your attitude. So it could work both ways,
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Yeah, but yeah, fine, good love.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of clever shut out. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of clever like comeback stuff, and Hunter Biden has found
Speaker 1: his voice on social media and I'm there for it.
Speaker 1: Look at some of the stuff that's going on.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, I know, say it at you.
Speaker 1: I am I love it. I love it. Well. Jake
Speaker 1: Tapper tried to come for his mother and he's not
Speaker 1: having it.
Speaker 2: Like what you say about my mama. Nope, nope, nope,
Speaker 2: nope not today.
Speaker 1: Yeah No, don't don't come for doctor Jill. Don't try it.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know. So I was Entrinton on Thursday to
Speaker 1: watch the Senate vote on S Twenty two sixty, which
Speaker 1: is the healthcare bills. So many have been working to
Speaker 1: come into law. So this is the healthcare executive orders
Speaker 1: that Phil Murphy put in place, and we held our
Speaker 1: breath until we knew we had another Democrat in the
Speaker 1: governor's office. But a lot of folks have done a
Speaker 1: lot of work to get this codified into law. It's
Speaker 1: important and essentially what this protects is bodily autonomy. It
Speaker 1: is reproductive healthcare. It is not just gender affirming healthcare.
Speaker 1: So it's broader than that. It protects our New Jersey
Speaker 1: practitioners from outside interference, which the language has been worked
Speaker 1: with all the way up until the final vote, and
Speaker 1: they may change a word or two before June eleventh
Speaker 1: when the Assembly votes. It did pass the Senate twenty
Speaker 1: three to twelve along party lines for we're absent and
Speaker 1: one Republican stained, but you know we have we have
Speaker 1: the votes. Yes, so it is expected to pass the
Speaker 1: Assembly on June eleventh. I have the distinct honor of
Speaker 1: MCing the rally that will happen outside of our state
Speaker 1: capital and Trenton, and you know, aurage all of our folks,
Speaker 1: especially here in Jersey, to be there to stand in solidarity,
Speaker 1: to witness this historic legislation. It's important. New Jersey is not,
Speaker 1: sadly the first date to put these protections in place,
Speaker 1: but we are one of the states that is codifying,
Speaker 1: you know, protecting gender firm and care and reproductive healthcare.
Speaker 1: We are protecting it by law in the state of
Speaker 1: New Jersey. It's about time and it is, as I said,
Speaker 1: my distinct honor to mc the rally. So that will
Speaker 1: be a really fun day and that's one of my
Speaker 1: pride activities. You Yeah, so that'll be Thursday. Hopefully this
Speaker 1: episode is out before then. If not, mm hmm, we'll
Speaker 1: post video and yeah, we will be celebrating that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that it's coming up in June. Why not?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 2: It's the perfect time.
Speaker 1: It is, it is, it's been a long time coming,
Speaker 1: been a long time coming. Some have worked briefly on this,
Speaker 1: some have worked for years. Yes, and all of them
Speaker 1: deserve just to celebrate themselves. The work is important. And
Speaker 1: we're still handing out postcards and having folks you know,
Speaker 1: contact Yes, their their their center and uh urge them
Speaker 1: to do this right thing exactly. Yeah, that's us right,
Speaker 1: anything else, I think that's the US stuff. Yeah. All
Speaker 1: we we lost a great Philadelphia true legend on June first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Dido van Regersberg passed away on June.
Speaker 1: First, age of fifties. Yeah, known to many, many, many fans,
Speaker 1: certainly up and down the East Coast and really around
Speaker 1: the world. As Martha Graham cracker Geto we interviewed, Dido
Speaker 1: was one of the founding members of Pig Iron Theater Company.
Speaker 1: Such a hand in Philadelphia theater and cap baret and
Speaker 1: performance overall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a shining light.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We are still We're still seeing the outpouring just
Speaker 1: from everywhere. National queer media has picked it up.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: I do too, you know, I think we saw it
Speaker 1: first in The Advocate and them, and you know it's
Speaker 1: really been the Pink News. Yeah, I'm sure, ol GBT
Speaker 1: Nation probably has published something since then.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and that was the the thing, because you know,
Speaker 2: we had our immediate reaction, and I was going through it.
Speaker 2: I was gutting, and because of the fact that he
Speaker 2: was so well known and well loved, it's like you
Speaker 2: literally couldn't escape the news because everybody, everybody.
Speaker 1: His dear friend Victor Fiorello, who writes for Philadelphia Magazine
Speaker 1: and was his piano player for years, posted first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the news broke the news. Yeah. We were in a
Speaker 1: parking lot somewhere we had stopped to do We were
Speaker 1: out running errands, and I happened to look at my
Speaker 1: phone and I went, oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So he had actually been diagnosed with two different kinds
Speaker 1: of cancer, one of them leukemia. There was I believe
Speaker 1: a stem cell transplant, bonemeer stem cell bone that did
Speaker 1: not was ultimately I think rejected. What happened. Yeah, since
Speaker 1: since January things have not been good. We found out
Speaker 1: later we didn't really know. It was last June when
Speaker 1: we interviewed Dto on the show and we re released
Speaker 1: that in honor.
Speaker 2: Of I love for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that was just re released. He was
Speaker 1: a co founder of pig Iron Theater Company. We recently
Speaker 1: talked to them and mentioned him, yes there, but didn't
Speaker 1: get into any conversation. Just such a talent, yeah, Barrymore
Speaker 1: Award winner, yep, all around lovely, lovely person, I mean, a.
Speaker 2: Pew Fellow, like all of the things he rightly earned.
Speaker 2: Just so I can remember the first time I saw
Speaker 2: Martha Graham Cracker. I was at a fundraiser and it
Speaker 2: was in this big club and Martha comes down this
Speaker 2: stairwell dressed in this like white fringy fembot thing with
Speaker 2: a curly blond wig, singing, coming down the steps, walking
Speaker 2: through the club, making her way up onto the stage,
Speaker 2: and I was just like, Okay, I get it, I
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yep, yep, yep. You couldn't not smile and
Speaker 1: have a wonderful time during that show, you know. It
Speaker 1: was just so filled with spontaneity and joy and and ornery.
Speaker 1: M m yeah. After it's this is this is one
Speaker 1: of those really big losses.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's a testament to uh Dido's the effect
Speaker 2: that he had on the arts community, because not just individuals,
Speaker 2: but UH companies that he worked with, the Wilmouth Theater,
Speaker 2: the Pew Charitable Trust, like all the organizations like made
Speaker 2: it made a point of saying something in honor of
Speaker 2: his memory and legacy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were at Letage in queen villete right on
Speaker 1: South Street.
Speaker 2: That was one of the hottest tickets in town for years.
Speaker 1: Fifteen years. Yeah, yep, yep, fifteen years. And COVID they
Speaker 1: were doing some virtual work during COVID. His leukemia diagnosis
Speaker 1: went public in twenty twenty two. He did bring the
Speaker 1: Cabaret back to the stage in twenty twenty four and
Speaker 1: performed a twentieth anniversary show at the Miller Theater last year.
Speaker 2: Yep. And that was a huge deal that he was
Speaker 2: back in the saddle. Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: This is hard for an awful lot of people, and
Speaker 1: our hearts go out to all of them because we've
Speaker 1: lost a huge presence. And you know, I had remarked,
Speaker 1: Philadelphia has now lost two gay legends too close together.
Speaker 1: One Pierre Robert Ye who did just have a street
Speaker 1: aptly behind you are named after him, and and I'm
Speaker 1: sure there will be things happening for Dido as well.
Speaker 1: But I said, I think it's important not to gloss
Speaker 1: over the fact that these were gay Philadelphians that you know,
Speaker 1: the world lost. They had you know, mass appeal obviously,
Speaker 1: well beyond just the queer community. And I had said,
Speaker 1: especially in Pierre's case, I wonder how many of these
Speaker 1: rabid fans know that he was gay, right, because it
Speaker 1: wasn't a secret. You know, it was just not germane
Speaker 1: on the rock and roll radio show he hosted, right,
Speaker 1: but you know, his personal life and the causes that
Speaker 1: he championed. I mean we worked with him at the
Speaker 1: Age Walk every year. Yeah, it was was not a
Speaker 1: secret and saw him way many three a ms at
Speaker 1: the Midtown three I Call you day when everything closed.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and Dido also unapologetically queer and fabulous and
Speaker 1: wonderful and yeah.
Speaker 2: Furst thing. We were able to see him in wash room, right,
Speaker 2: which is where the interview came from, in anticipation of
Speaker 2: seeing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, big loss, Yes, big loss for all of us.
Speaker 1: Also since we last talked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we lost people Bryson as well. Yeah. People Bryson
Speaker 2: was like that that voice probably most famous mainstream wise
Speaker 2: for his duet with Regina.
Speaker 1: Bell, Right, Okay, I was you know, he's another one
Speaker 1: of those artists where when you start looking at his catalog,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, that was him, that was him,
Speaker 1: that was that was him.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. His famous duet with ROBERTA. Fleck was Tonight
Speaker 2: I Celebrated Love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Yes, yep, yep, tonight I Celebrate My Love.
Speaker 1: Made it to number four on the US Adult Contemporary
Speaker 1: Troy in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2: Three, and then of course Beauty and the Beast he
Speaker 2: dueted with Celine Dion.
Speaker 1: He reached number one in eighty four with if ever
Speaker 1: You're in My Arms Again?
Speaker 2: Yes, that was the jam. Peter Bryson was the man.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: And a lot of people are on the planet because
Speaker 2: their parents listened to his music one night.
Speaker 1: Right right. He and Luther Vandros are probably responsible for
Speaker 1: a percentage of the population. Yep, I think so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. A Whole New World reached number one
Speaker 1: as well and knocked I Will Always Love You off
Speaker 1: as number one after a fourteen week run. Yeah yeah, impressive,
Speaker 1: impressive stuff.
Speaker 2: You could not get away from that damn duet.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: It was like so in fact, that was our fucking
Speaker 2: junior prom theme.
Speaker 1: I think probably whole New World problem. Yeah yeah. He
Speaker 1: once told the Philadelphia Tribune, I'm trying to show men
Speaker 1: that it's okay to be sensitive and sensual instead of
Speaker 1: feeling like they have to be macho. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And and he had a little cameo moment on The
Speaker 2: Golden Girls.
Speaker 1: Did he? Oh? Okay?
Speaker 2: Sophia and Dorothy were at Disney Disneyland or Disney World,
Speaker 2: one of the disneys, and Sophia was trying to escape
Speaker 2: Dorothy because Dorothy was being all emotional and clingy. So
Speaker 2: she made her way into this bar and Pebo Bryson
Speaker 2: was the piano player, and she was like, play that
Speaker 2: song again. I'm like, I just played it. You played
Speaker 2: it for her, you can play it for me. And
Speaker 2: then he's saying it's a small world after all.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay. He is survived by his wife Tanya, their
Speaker 1: son Robert, also a daughter Linda, and three grandchildren. Rest
Speaker 1: in power. Indeed, what else am I? God?
Speaker 2: And uh? This is from a couple of days ago
Speaker 2: Anthony had died.
Speaker 1: Yes, we just were watching Ted Lasso. Are we going
Speaker 1: to talk about that? And when we popped the culture?
Speaker 2: Yes, I did not realize that was him and Ted Lasso. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: he played Rupert.
Speaker 1: Yes, the divorced, Yes, which explains how fierce why he
Speaker 1: was so fierce, especially with the trench coat and the
Speaker 1: flowing of it all, with the evil villain walk, that made.
Speaker 2: Some much sense. So you know him from what Buddy
Speaker 2: the Vampire Slayer. He played Giles, who was Buffy's like
Speaker 2: mentor and and and you know, gave her all the
Speaker 2: information that she needed to do her missions.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, he found international fameous Rupert Giles in the
Speaker 1: hit supernatural teen show Buffy in the late nineteen nineties. Yes,
Speaker 1: he passed from complications due to pneumonia. Yeah, but we
Speaker 1: recently discovered Ted Lasso and we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 1: But yes, loved it, loved his role.
Speaker 2: That's so crazy that I did not know that that
Speaker 2: was him.
Speaker 1: I did. I mean, I didn't. I wasn't a Buffy fan.
Speaker 1: I was busy in the nineties. I was busy, So
Speaker 1: I didn't. It wasn't in one of my things.
Speaker 2: Because that character is so fucking evil that it never
Speaker 2: occurred to me that he was played by someone I
Speaker 2: liked that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, from the late eighties through you know, the mid
Speaker 1: two thousands. It's kind of a blur there, especially through
Speaker 1: the nineties, because that's fair. Two children, you were busy.
Speaker 1: I was busy, Yes, I was busy raising kids and
Speaker 1: so and neither of them were old enough to have
Speaker 1: been watching Buffy when it was out, when it was popular.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in college.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: That was Lisa and I's little guilty pleasure. There you go,
Speaker 2: minus the guilt.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that right, that was a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1: Anthony had May he rest in peace, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: probably do we want to take a little break. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do that, and then we're going to come back
Speaker 1: with good news.
Speaker 2: We have some we do.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back. Qu're back. So
Speaker 1: we got good news. Uh So, Colorado Governor Jared Polus
Speaker 1: kicked off Pride Month by signing a new conversion therapy law. Yes,
Speaker 1: as we know, since last we talked, I think the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court is fucking around with that. He signed a
Speaker 1: new law, you know, and I have talked about this
Speaker 1: before a nauseum. You know, conversion therapy all the bands
Speaker 1: and we need them control you know, legitimate licensed therapy, right,
Speaker 1: which is not exactly where most conversion therapy is happening. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it's happening out of the churches right by certainly unlicensed individuals,
Speaker 1: and they were pretty much unaffected anyway. What he did
Speaker 1: post to social media after he signed this bill was,
Speaker 1: conversion therapy can be harmful, traumatizes kids, and does a
Speaker 1: scam to waste people's hard earned money. They're here to
Speaker 1: kick off pride months. I signed a new law that
Speaker 1: provides Colorado's who have been subject to this dehumanizing treatment
Speaker 1: with the tools to heal and move on to live strong,
Speaker 1: healthy and authentic lives. I also took action to ensure
Speaker 1: that no taxpayer funds are wasted on these scams.
Speaker 2: Ha.
Speaker 1: The bill, which is called the Civil Actions for Conversion
Speaker 1: Therapy Survivors Act, would allow conversion therapy survivors to sue
Speaker 1: therapists for damages if they tried to change their sexual
Speaker 1: orientation or gender identity. That this is an end run
Speaker 1: kind of you know, around them trying to say that
Speaker 1: we can't have laws to prevent it. The hell yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I hope in my lifetime I see a Supreme Court
Speaker 1: that isn't primarily bought and fucking paid for.
Speaker 2: Right because they don't make sense anymore. Anyway.
Speaker 1: It defines the bill defines conversion therapy as treatment provided
Speaker 1: by a license again mental health professional with the predetermined
Speaker 1: outcome of changing someone's gender identity or sexual orientation. This
Speaker 1: effectively keeps the bill from applying to members of the
Speaker 1: clergy or layman ministry. Most conversion therapy in the US
Speaker 1: is performed by religious organizations and not licensed therapists, and
Speaker 1: it creates an exemption for discussions of LGBTQ plus identities
Speaker 1: that come up in therapy, which is a matter of
Speaker 1: contention in a recent Supreme Court case. You know what
Speaker 1: it does do, at least in Colorado, is make sure
Speaker 1: any therapists who were so inclined to return to that
Speaker 1: type of therapy, which you know is death affirming, can
Speaker 1: be sued and good good, they shouldn't have a license
Speaker 1: and do that.
Speaker 2: State Rep. Alex Valdez, who is also the bill's sponsor
Speaker 2: in the state House, said this laws for all of
Speaker 2: the LGBTQ Colorado's who were told something about them was
Speaker 2: wrong because of who they were or who they loved.
Speaker 2: With the recent US Supreme Court ruling against Colorado's conversion
Speaker 2: therapy ban, we are committed to offering survivors of this
Speaker 2: harmful practice the protections they deserve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Supreme Court, so just a little bit. They
Speaker 1: said that disorder is a reaction to the recent Supreme
Speaker 1: Court ruling against Colorado's conversion therapy ban, which was passed
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, never enforced, by the way, this is
Speaker 1: all such bullshit anyway. The ban on conversion therapy, while
Speaker 1: never enforced in the state, of course, a Christian therapist sued,
Speaker 1: saying that it violated her freedom of speech.
Speaker 2: Bitch.
Speaker 1: She argued that it would ban her from even discussing
Speaker 1: LGBTQ plus identities with her clients, even though the state
Speaker 1: said repeatedly it would not.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, no, if the only thing you have to
Speaker 2: say right is it's wrong, and it should be.
Speaker 1: But of course it was a Christian right, of course,
Speaker 1: and what the court ultimately ruled. They ruled against the
Speaker 1: ban in Chiles v. Salazar, saying it violates the therapist's
Speaker 1: First Amendment rights. Bullshit, and sent the case back to
Speaker 1: a lower court to reevaluate the law under a higher
Speaker 1: legal standard. Mm hmm. Yeah. Experts believe this means that
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen conversion therapy ban and bands like it
Speaker 1: that have been passed in twenty six other states and
Speaker 1: hundreds of municipalities will likely eventually be overturned by courts.
Speaker 1: What the fuck? What are you talking about? First Amendment rights?
Speaker 1: This a therapist, right, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: No, they just like to say shit. Whenever they don't
Speaker 2: get their way, they pull out the First Amendment like that.
Speaker 2: If the only thing you have to say how LGBTQ
Speaker 2: identities in your practice is that it's wrong it needs
Speaker 2: to be changed, then yes, you are. You can't do that.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the belly laughter that comes out of
Speaker 1: these billionaires that use these stupid fucking Christians as puppets constantly.
Speaker 2: Because it always works.
Speaker 1: Seriously, Yeah, yeah, here goes to on a hypothetical. This
Speaker 1: is how they waste the court's time. This is how
Speaker 1: they waste tax payer money. Yep. Can you imagine how
Speaker 1: they sit around and laugh hysterically they must when we
Speaker 1: say eat the rich, it doesn't what doesn't mean all
Speaker 1: of them, It just means another one or two. The
Speaker 1: rest will get the memo tax them.
Speaker 2: Just look at them in the eye and lick your lips,
Speaker 2: and lick your lips, suck on your fingertips.
Speaker 1: Anyway, this was a creative answer and you know, I
Speaker 1: hope more states do it again. These bands are about out,
Speaker 1: you know, licensed therapists to begin with. The only I
Speaker 1: think only New Zealand and maybe Canada went so far
Speaker 1: as to ban it in terms of religion, and they
Speaker 1: should it should be right, it absolutely should be. They're
Speaker 1: making money on misery that they manufacture, that they create,
Speaker 1: by the lies they tell about queer and trans people,
Speaker 1: and the parents that they infect with this nonsense, and
Speaker 1: the god that they have to sell.
Speaker 2: That's what this all is.
Speaker 1: It's a fucking game that kills our people all the time.
Speaker 1: You know, I had my own little version of it
Speaker 1: and it was disgusting and it leaves scars truly period.
Speaker 1: You know, it feeds on the self loathing that the
Speaker 1: church helps create in the first goddamn place, right.
Speaker 2: The venomous snake eating its own tail.
Speaker 1: But we're in good news. So that is good news.
Speaker 1: That is good news, and I and I hope that it,
Speaker 1: you know, sets forth a model. This isn't oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but licensed therapists have no business, no business whatsoever, peddling
Speaker 1: the idea that you can cure yourself of something that
Speaker 1: is not an affliction. It is a kin to tying
Speaker 1: your left hand behind your back because you're left handed.
Speaker 1: It's just as stupid, or I don't know, cutting out
Speaker 1: your irises because you have blue eyes. It's that dumb show.
Speaker 2: This is, you know, don't give nobody no idea.
Speaker 1: Seriously, Sesame Street, Yes we're in God damn. It posted
Speaker 1: a sweet message of love for Pride Months. The headline
Speaker 1: even says que the backlash. Yes, they feel triggered over
Speaker 1: Sesame Street on a normal day.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, And it's the you know, it's the post
Speaker 2: that I've I've shared on my own social media repeatedly.
Speaker 2: It's like stacks of the fur.
Speaker 1: Isn't this the corners back in twenty nineteen that they
Speaker 1: first did this.
Speaker 2: No, probably because that's how long I've been making that.
Speaker 1: Most I know. It was shared again for this Pride month. Yes,
Speaker 1: the sacks of different color furs and a rebow.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Happy Pride Months from Sesame Street. Join us in
Speaker 1: celebrating and uplifting the LGBTQA plus members of our community.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it was retexted apparently, and there was a close
Speaker 1: up photo of the fur stripes of the rainbow and
Speaker 1: it goes black, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, yep,
Speaker 1: and violet love that and of course, of course lips
Speaker 1: of TikTok of course.
Speaker 2: Has a big oh.
Speaker 1: I know she's been trying to explode herself. I wish
Speaker 1: she'd go ahead and do that. Just let it fly, baby.
Speaker 1: You know she said, this is absolutely disgusting. Isn't this
Speaker 1: a show for kids? Uh? Huh? Why aren't you guys
Speaker 1: pushing this? Why are you guys pushing this onto children? Bitch,
Speaker 1: people exist, Sesame Street is grooming your kids. This is
Speaker 1: absolutely just God, why don't you fuck up them?
Speaker 2: You know that thing where if you say a word
Speaker 2: or times, it just stops having a meeting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and turning points. This is literally a showman for
Speaker 1: young children. Yes it is, Yes it is, and some
Speaker 1: of them are going to grow up to find out
Speaker 1: that they are queer or trans yep, and remember that
Speaker 1: they were affirmed by Sesame Street and not the hateful
Speaker 1: people that you are and that you you are grooming
Speaker 1: ding ding a deestination.
Speaker 2: I would much rather grow up a young queer child
Speaker 2: knowing that Cookie Monster has my back.
Speaker 1: Bitch, I know, I love it. Keep going, Sesame Street,
Speaker 1: keep doing it. Yeah, yeah, I think it's fabulous.
Speaker 2: Sesame Street has always been a pinnacle of progressive thought.
Speaker 1: They have, they have, and good on them.
Speaker 2: I saw black people on Sesame Street before I saw
Speaker 2: manywhere else. Thank you, yeah, please, and thank you.
Speaker 1: It was always diverse. It was always just about values
Speaker 1: that we should all share.
Speaker 2: I learned Spanish one, exactly.
Speaker 1: The fact that there are Spanish people, you know, in
Speaker 1: the world, and they speak a different language and in
Speaker 1: our nation, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I learned about as l right, right, these are.
Speaker 1: What It boggles the mind that they have a problem with.
Speaker 2: These are children.
Speaker 1: You want to fuck them, but you don't want them
Speaker 1: to know about gay people, right your side? Fox them
Speaker 1: hides it. And we still haven't seen all those files,
Speaker 1: right well, and you want to all this false outrage.
Speaker 1: I'm so tired of it.
Speaker 2: But you know who's not in those files, Grover, Grover.
Speaker 1: Elmo.
Speaker 2: Thank you, but either Burt nor Ornie right exactly.
Speaker 1: It was very sweet, It was very sweet. These people
Speaker 1: are ridiculous. They keep I just I'm waiting, I really
Speaker 1: am for these tides to turn, and I have to
Speaker 1: believe that they will. I live in hope and that
Speaker 1: you know, collectively, we look around and realize that all
Speaker 1: of this manufactured bullshit is hurting us. It's hurting us
Speaker 1: all not making us stronger, you know. Taking us to
Speaker 1: war is not helping us, you know. And now the
Speaker 1: families that can ill afford it the most are paying
Speaker 1: higher prices, even higher prices for food, and ridiculously high
Speaker 1: prices for fuel, you know, and in a nation that
Speaker 1: currently wants to go backwards in terms of the technology
Speaker 1: that would get us away from foreign oil. Because all
Speaker 1: they're worried about are they're wallets in front of them.
Speaker 1: How do they not think about their own grandchildren? That's
Speaker 1: what I don't get.
Speaker 2: I'll never because their grandparents didn't give a fuck about them,
Speaker 2: so they have no basis of comparison.
Speaker 1: Maybe they won't. They've given enough of a fuck to
Speaker 1: leave them rich, many of them. And that's the problem
Speaker 1: with wealth that you inherit and anywhere. Yeah, we've got
Speaker 1: these these idiots walking around with more money than God
Speaker 1: ever intended and they've never actually built a damn thing,
Speaker 1: more money than has never built or thought of that
Speaker 1: And he bought it, he bought it. It was just
Speaker 1: reading an article where he bought Twitter just because of
Speaker 1: his daughter. I'm like, you know what he probably did.
Speaker 1: It's that shallow and ridiculous. They're so fragile. We're in
Speaker 1: good news, good news that Sesame Street don't give a
Speaker 1: fuck and thank you for the love continuing, and this
Speaker 1: is good news. The murder trial for O'sha simply finally
Speaker 1: happened in New York City, and this jury is deliberating
Speaker 1: as we speak. Yes, the man accused of killing him.
Speaker 1: They computed their first deliberations. I want to say on
Speaker 1: June third, but as of this morning, this is the
Speaker 1: last news article I can find. Yes, the trial is
Speaker 1: of Dmitry Popov, who fatally stabbed O'sha outside a Midwood
Speaker 1: gas station in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: Yes, we talked about that on this show when it happened,
Speaker 3: and I am glad that the trial is underway and
Speaker 3: we're hopefully going to get some justice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, jurors did ask some questions about the charges in
Speaker 1: the case. There are the judge. We read the definitions
Speaker 1: for all nine counts against him, including second degree murder
Speaker 1: as a hate crime and manslaughter as a hate crime.
Speaker 1: And there's no question in my mind that this was
Speaker 1: a hate crime. But this little bit, because they never
Speaker 1: take responsibility for what they do when there are consequences.
Speaker 1: He was seventeen at the time of the stabbing, is
Speaker 1: now twenty. Sad appeared in court, handcuffed and wearing a
Speaker 1: white button down shirt. Family members sat behind him. Please,
Speaker 1: you weren't behind him when you needed to be that far. Oh,
Speaker 1: let's see, Sibley and a group of friends were dancing.
Speaker 2: Yep, they were vogue and they were cutting up and
Speaker 2: you know, it was fierce.
Speaker 1: And pop up of course, and his friends began shouting
Speaker 1: homophobic and racist slurs and he stabbed him ohay, in
Speaker 1: the chest with a knife. Yeah, they're trying to say
Speaker 1: he acted in self defense. That's what his defense terms
Speaker 1: or sing. Yeah, I was so afraid of these faggots
Speaker 1: who were dancing in the street that I had to
Speaker 1: defend myself. Yes, what were they going to do? Baby?
Speaker 1: Kick you?
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that. You might have gotten caught up
Speaker 2: in a dip.
Speaker 1: And wasn't there some filming? Wasn't there some footage of this?
Speaker 1: I thought? I feel like there.
Speaker 2: Was security footage probably.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think maybe. But they were just having fun,
Speaker 1: they were enjoying their queer selves, and it just offended
Speaker 1: this child's sensibilities.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because this was This would have been when Beyonce's
Speaker 2: Renaissance album came out, So of course they were cutting
Speaker 2: up at any given time. Yeah, because that's what you do.
Speaker 1: God forbid you'd be black and queer in public. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I really do hope they returned this as a
Speaker 1: hate crime. Murdered murder too was a hate crime for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's hard to argue against it.
Speaker 2: So fingers crossed, and I'm glad that the.
Speaker 1: Good news is justice is happening. Yes, that's why this
Speaker 1: is in good news. Correct, It is finally happening and
Speaker 1: deliberations continue. Yes, so uh again I mentioned this top
Speaker 1: of the show. The new Jersey Senate to approve the
Speaker 1: bill to protect reproductive and transgender healthcare. This goes in
Speaker 1: front of the full Assembly on June the eleventh. I
Speaker 1: will be out front mceing the rally and the vote
Speaker 1: will take place after. My guess is the rally will
Speaker 1: probably be about eleven thirty for an hour and the
Speaker 1: vote will probably take place shortly after one o'clock. So
Speaker 1: that's my guess. But that'll be confirmed this week and
Speaker 1: we'll share it on our page and all of that,
Speaker 1: but this is monumental. It is in our state, and
Speaker 1: I am thrilled. Let's see. Oh I love this one
Speaker 1: the motherland.
Speaker 2: I put this here for you.
Speaker 1: Pride returns to Budapest after the dictator was voted out.
Speaker 1: Freedom and love cannot be banned. Yeah, I love this
Speaker 1: they you know throughout the dictator. Finally, finally, finally an
Speaker 1: arab uh huh, and authorities gave the green light for
Speaker 1: the Hungarian capital's Pride parade to march again this month
Speaker 1: after last year's event was banned under victor what's his face?
Speaker 1: It's exciting, it's exciting.
Speaker 2: So we can go visit Hungary now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what connects us will be stronger than what
Speaker 1: divides us. Prime Minister Peter Mudja said in his swearing
Speaker 1: in Hungary will be home for every Hungarian and everyone
Speaker 1: can feel like they have a place in the Hungarian nation. Family,
Speaker 1: friends and communities will be able to speak to each
Speaker 1: other again. I have always wanted to go to you know,
Speaker 1: see where my mother's people come from. And my cousin's
Speaker 1: been twice and this is heartening. Yeah, I wanted to
Speaker 1: see Budapeshe it's beautiful, It really is beautiful. You know,
Speaker 1: I've certainly seeing a lot of pictures and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I would love to see it in person. But
Speaker 1: you know, under that regime, it was things are scary exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to start learning Hungarian now, aren't I.
Speaker 1: I can only be of very little help, and Hungarian
Speaker 1: is not easy to learn. And it is its own thing,
Speaker 1: there isn't. It's not like the Romance languages. It's not like,
Speaker 1: you know, Spanish, therefore you pick you can pick up
Speaker 1: French and Italian. It's it's not like that at all.
Speaker 1: It's its own mess. I understand. It sounds good to me,
Speaker 1: it's just the one that's the mess. I grew up
Speaker 1: and I said, everybody's house had two languages. They should,
Speaker 1: you know, the one that they taught you and the
Speaker 1: one they taught you some I was the bad words.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was always jealous of people who spoke a
Speaker 2: different language at home.
Speaker 1: I thought it was cool. You know what happened, And
Speaker 1: a lot was once people came to America, they wanted
Speaker 1: to be American. So a lot of folks didn't speak
Speaker 1: the mother tongue at home if they could avoid it.
Speaker 1: Some couldn't, you know, some didn't assimilate as well. Whatever,
Speaker 1: But you know, my grandmother and mother would speak in
Speaker 1: Hungarian when they did not want you to know what
Speaker 1: they were talking about, and I could pick up words.
Speaker 1: I still can only pick up words in a conversation.
Speaker 1: I can't I was never conversant. My mother was conversant.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty fluent, but I don't think she could write,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if she could read. My grandmother
Speaker 1: could read and write and Hungarian and whis fluent.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And even though she was a first generation American, my
Speaker 1: grandmother was born in the United States right after her
Speaker 1: family came here from Buda pesh okay, yep, yep.
Speaker 2: So I'm down for the challenge.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I love that there's a new day and
Speaker 1: a new spirit and a dictator is gone. May America
Speaker 1: have similar news. So this is good news. I picked
Speaker 1: up a bit ago. I know this was from April,
Speaker 1: so maybe it might be even better news by now.
Speaker 1: But the Selka, our beloved the Selka Ukrainian restaurant, famous
Speaker 1: in the East Village, is going to be open twenty
Speaker 1: four to seven again. Yeah, at least Friday and Saturdays
Speaker 1: as of this writing, which is usually when we stumble
Speaker 1: in at five am for right, for Kabasi and for Ogison,
Speaker 1: we get that whole big.
Speaker 2: Platter after having been at crisis.
Speaker 1: Amazing borsh after Marie's crisis. Yes, many a meal eaten
Speaker 1: their pre breakfast. But yeah, they're they're they're expanding their
Speaker 1: hours again. So I'm I'm excited about that because it
Speaker 1: was always twenty four hours, no matter when.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because we never I know, I never
Speaker 2: have been there before four am.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean you can go in there anytime, of course,
Speaker 1: you go, obviously, but it's just right that's when we went.
Speaker 1: That's when it was best. It's great. It's great drunk food.
Speaker 1: It's great food. It's great food. Yeah, but usually it
Speaker 1: wasn't dinner because so many times we would go, well,
Speaker 1: the Edison Cafe is not there anymore. But like when
Speaker 1: I would be in New York with my cousin, we
Speaker 1: would go to the Edison Cafe, get a nice bullets
Speaker 1: of their soup and a little bread or whatever, and
Speaker 1: then go to a show right on Broadway. Then we
Speaker 1: might have you know, then we would go to Marie
Speaker 1: after the show ten thirty whatever for a little while,
Speaker 1: and we might have a late dinner or a late
Speaker 1: dinner right down the block at eleven thirty or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then go back right because Maurice was open till four, right,
Speaker 1: and we would stay until four, sometimes much later because
Speaker 1: we knew the piano player and helped him count of tips, right,
Speaker 1: you know, And so we would be then either cabbing
Speaker 1: or walking. We walked over to Asalka and then you know,
Speaker 1: get back to our hotel room and sleep at seven
Speaker 1: or something. But there. Yeah, so they haven't been good
Speaker 1: tests since COVID. Good times. They haven't been open twenty
Speaker 1: four hours since COVID, and so it's coming back, and
Speaker 1: you know, support them because and support them because the
Speaker 1: food is exclude. Yes, it's just Scremford food. It's wonderful,
Speaker 1: wonderful comfort food.
Speaker 2: I've enjoyed everything I've ever had there.
Speaker 1: Oh, so that was good news. That was something fun
Speaker 1: that made me happy. You So this was this was
Speaker 1: fun again. This was from early April. There were ads.
Speaker 1: So here's the headline, Anti trans attack ads fail again
Speaker 1: as Wisconsin liberal wins Supreme Court by a historic twenty margin.
Speaker 2: Boom.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Judge Chris Taylor defeated Judge Maria Lazar in the
Speaker 1: Wisconsin Supreme Court race by twenty points, the largest margin
Speaker 1: in twenty six years by any justice. The race is
Speaker 1: significant because Lazar ran on a heavily anti trans ad
Speaker 1: strategy YEP, reminiscent of the strategy used by some Republicans
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty four election, running ads that demonized
Speaker 1: transgender people as threats to the safety and dreams of children.
Speaker 1: When Conservatives attacked Taylor's pro LGBTQ plus legislative record, including
Speaker 1: bills she authored supporting transgender rights, she did not disavoult
Speaker 1: or distance herself from it. Despite the ads, Taylor won
Speaker 1: by a historic margin, following two other Wisconsin Supreme Court
Speaker 1: races in recent years where anti trans ads strategy was
Speaker 1: a major part of the losing campaign. Losing and these
Speaker 1: are the kinds of stories we need to follow just
Speaker 1: to balance these the hate and nonsense. Is to really
Speaker 1: look at what's going on. You know, I agree if
Speaker 1: you're trans, and in Wisconsin, there's certainly hope right that part,
Speaker 1: that part, yes, and this Lazaar ran on a heavy
Speaker 1: anti trans strategy. One ad opened with a mother saying
Speaker 1: it's just not fair. My daughter works so hard and
Speaker 1: loves sports. But now I'm worried about her competing against
Speaker 1: boys because of activists like Chris Taylor. It breaks my heart,
Speaker 1: as if you had one to see her safety and
Speaker 1: dreams dashed by activist politicians.
Speaker 2: Oh bitch, yeah, or maybe your daughter's just not good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And they said she would Taylor would legislate from
Speaker 1: the bench. No, the opposite would have happened to knock
Speaker 1: down voter id uh huh. Abortion up to birth. Please,
Speaker 1: that's not a thing. Unallow boys in girls' sports.
Speaker 2: No, not a thing.
Speaker 1: And you know, if we just stopped gendering sports, I
Speaker 1: don't know and went by weight class, it's abital yep,
Speaker 1: but you know, whatever, whatever, what do I know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was targeted left, right and sideways, and it just
Speaker 1: helped her win, big, big. She cruised to victory sixty
Speaker 1: forty ha mm hmm. Yep.
Speaker 2: That's not close.
Speaker 1: Yep, No, it's not close. It expands the liberal majority
Speaker 1: to five to two. It is the largest liberal majority
Speaker 1: on the court since at least the nineteen seventies. How
Speaker 1: about that she carried more than twenty counties that voted
Speaker 1: for Donald Trump in twenty twenty four. This is the
Speaker 1: other thing we have to look at, and virtually every
Speaker 1: county in the state swung toward Democrats compared to the
Speaker 1: presidential race. Perhaps most remarkably, Taylor flipped a county part
Speaker 1: of the notorious Woo counties Waksha, Azuki, and Washington that
Speaker 1: have been the bedrock of Republican Republican strengths in southeastern
Speaker 1: Wisconsin for decades, she flipped Azuki County. In Dane County,
Speaker 1: Taylor hit eighty four percent. Good for her, good for Wisconsin. Indeed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I think equality is going to win ultimately.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think Americans are tired of
Speaker 1: the nonsense.
Speaker 2: Lord knows.
Speaker 1: I I certainly hope so. But we have to follow
Speaker 1: those things. What's next? Back in April, there was a
Speaker 1: black trans woman, Devanta Curtis. We were not recording to
Speaker 1: talk about this, but she was found dead in her
Speaker 1: Chicago apartment after assault, suffering multiple blunt force injuries. Yes
Speaker 1: April filth and DeAndre bell is the man who has
Speaker 1: been now charged with her murder. Twenty four year old.
Speaker 1: He has charged with first degree murder and possession of
Speaker 1: a stolen vehicle BAM, which means there was intent, which
Speaker 1: means they probably did know each other. Yep, but oh,
Speaker 1: court documents alleged he searched online for methods of killing
Speaker 1: prior to the attack. He googled how to kill someone
Speaker 1: with a hammer, and if a person gets hit in
Speaker 1: the head with a hammer while sleeping, what happens.
Speaker 2: It doesn't get much more premeditated than that.
Speaker 1: No kidding, no kidding, fucker. Yeah, and then he went
Speaker 1: and stole her car. They found him later the day
Speaker 1: that they found her with her car and keys and
Speaker 1: a bloody hammer. Yeah. The good news is the good
Speaker 1: news is yeah, he's being charged with first degree murder.
Speaker 1: So good, that is good news. Any bit of justice
Speaker 1: rest in power, sister, But yes, it is good news.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, any bit of justice is good news.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever they actually get us gendered right, at least
Speaker 1: in death, you know, and then we see some follow
Speaker 1: through by the police, because you know, we've certainly seen
Speaker 1: the times when getting our attention was hard the police.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, so this was fun.
Speaker 2: Yes, federal court sides with trans athletes and says Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's executive orders aren't law, no ship, which is what
Speaker 2: we've been screaming.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, Yes, we have yes, we have Minnesota schools
Speaker 1: by law allowing trans athletes to play based on their
Speaker 1: gender identity still stands. Yeah.
Speaker 2: This is also from mid April.
Speaker 1: A federal peers court in Minnesota ruled in favor of
Speaker 1: trans athletes, rejecting a push to ban trans kids from
Speaker 1: girls' sports in the state. While the judges ruled that
Speaker 1: female Athletes United FAU, the group that brought the case,
Speaker 1: did not demonstrate a private right of action. The decision
Speaker 1: also hinged on the fact that Donald Trump's executive orders
Speaker 1: do not represent settled law.
Speaker 2: Nope, it's like a wish list, but it's nothing official.
Speaker 1: FAU sued over the fact that a trans high school
Speaker 1: senior referred to as Jane Doe in the lawsuit is
Speaker 1: the captain of a varsity softball team in the Minnesota
Speaker 1: State High School League. Executive guidance and agency findings in
Speaker 1: and of themselves do not reflect settled law, wrote the
Speaker 1: Eighth Circuit Court Judge Raymond Grunder in a decision on
Speaker 1: behalf of the three judge panel. The Executive Branch's views
Speaker 1: on trans participation in sports may guide its own enforcement approach,
Speaker 1: but they cannot independently establish a strong likelihood that dose
Speaker 1: participation violates Title nine or it's implementing regulations. Uh huh
Speaker 1: you yeah, yeah. The Minnesota State High School League introduced
Speaker 1: a bylaw back in twenty sixteen that allowed for students
Speaker 1: to participate in sports consistent with their gender, identity or expression.
Speaker 1: It went largely unchallenged for nearly a decade, and no
Speaker 1: one was harmed, right, or we're going to be Yeah,
Speaker 1: no one was harmed. Right, But an anti trance group
Speaker 1: looking for bullshit decided to sue in May of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, claiming trans participation in girls' sports was discriminatory
Speaker 1: under Title nine. Shit, yeah, just shut the hell up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's see. A lower court denied their appeal for a
Speaker 1: trans band and their request for the State High School
Speaker 1: League's by law to be blocked, and the Court of
Speaker 1: Appeals upheld the ruling, while adding some additional perspective.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so there.
Speaker 1: Ye. Court noted that it is only possible to sue
Speaker 1: under Title nine if it can be proven that discrimination
Speaker 1: occurred and was intentional. Exactly because fau's allegations sound disparate
Speaker 1: impact and do not allow for an inference of discriminatory
Speaker 1: intent or deliberate indifference, we conclude that its claim of
Speaker 1: ineffective accommodation and unequal treatment under Title nine are not
Speaker 1: claims of intentional discrimination.
Speaker 2: Because that's not how that works.
Speaker 1: Right, You're arguing against inclusion and calling it discrimination. Thank god,
Speaker 1: the rebellian shit doesn't hold up everywhere, right right anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: fuck them, and we thank you. We're gonna see more
Speaker 1: of this. We're gonna see more of this, you know,
Speaker 1: because it was good lull in the first place. These
Speaker 1: are good policies in the first place. They are in
Speaker 1: line with Title nine. They are in line with sanity
Speaker 1: and decency and you know, the rights of human beings.
Speaker 1: That's where I think we're gonna go back to because
Speaker 1: how long do you bang this drum? I mean, we
Speaker 1: watched them do it. We're old enough to have seen
Speaker 1: this bullshit play out, right, you know. We saw how
Speaker 1: effective the fight against gay marriage was in two thousand
Speaker 1: and four, right when Bush got is second term, God
Speaker 1: help us. But then by twenty fifteen marriage equality was
Speaker 1: the rule of the land and no one has been
Speaker 1: harmed the eleven years now that it's been just fine.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think we're going to see more
Speaker 1: of that. Oh I'm sure, I really do you know?
Speaker 1: But good news. Nonetheless, Indeed, let's see what else we
Speaker 1: put up here. It looks like one more.
Speaker 2: Yes. A teacher suspended for supporting trans athlete gets reinstated
Speaker 2: after allies fought back. His school district just determined that
Speaker 2: a Title nine complaint against an allegedly trans student was meritless.
Speaker 1: Yes. A Michigan school district's athletic director was reinstated four
Speaker 1: months after he publicly empathized with a transgender student athlete
Speaker 1: at the center of a Title nine investigation. Doctor chat
Speaker 1: Hessen was placed an administrative leave after he spoke with
Speaker 1: LGBTQ plus news site uncloseted media about the athlete, a
Speaker 1: volleyball player competing for Skyline High School in Monroe County,
Speaker 1: his school district. Hessen's school district was under investigation at
Speaker 1: the time after a local father had filed a complaint
Speaker 1: alleging that his daughter had been unfairly made to compete
Speaker 1: against an allegedly trans athlete.
Speaker 2: And my daughter sucks, so he can't be put in
Speaker 2: a body compet Yeah.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: The student at the center of the investigation had previously
Speaker 1: been outed and dead named by Fox News Sports site
Speaker 1: OutKick in dozens of stories and social posts targeting her,
Speaker 1: the school district and the Michigan lawmakers who developed the
Speaker 1: state's inclusive athletic policy targeting her. This district right, so
Speaker 1: they targeted everyone. The aforementioned father's complaint alleged that these
Speaker 1: policies violated Title nine right, a funeral law prohibiting sex
Speaker 1: based educational discrimination. Good Christ and of course, Riley Gaines
Speaker 1: and her search for relevance, reposted part of the interview
Speaker 1: to Twitter, saying it was amazing to watch grown men
Speaker 1: act like calling a boy a boy is the worst
Speaker 1: atrocity a human is capable of committing. She would have
Speaker 1: no relevance in the world her fifth place asks were
Speaker 1: it not for her hate being paid for. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I hate people the hate.
Speaker 2: She's such a tool, literally a dull and rusty too.
Speaker 1: If that's the relevance you get in this world, I
Speaker 1: don't want it. You know what I mean? Like, if
Speaker 1: that's what it takes is you've got to sell your
Speaker 1: soul and be openly pathetic, likethetic. Yeah, someone ever taught
Speaker 1: you actual values? Shame I was fifth, knew I know
Speaker 1: and money you were fifth. No matter what that's the
Speaker 1: ridiculous part. You were fifth, No matter fucking what, you
Speaker 1: tied for a fifth and somehow.
Speaker 2: Made a You weren't even good enough to be sixth.
Speaker 1: Nope, shut up. The Board of Education initiated an independent
Speaker 1: investigation of the claim. The reinstatement occurred after investigators determined
Speaker 1: that all claims against the school district were unsubstantiated and
Speaker 1: the district was not in violation of Title I. No,
Speaker 1: they weren't. Claims regarding equal access to teams, the provision
Speaker 1: of a safe environment, and the protection of student privacy
Speaker 1: and bodily integrity were unsubstantiated, according to school district superintendent
Speaker 1: Andrew saw The district's decision to place Hessen on leave
Speaker 1: inspired outrage from local officials, rightly so, who signed an
Speaker 1: open letter calling for his reinstatement. It was in March.
Speaker 1: She was reinstated in April. At their core, doctor Hesson's
Speaker 1: remarks expressed empathy for a young student athlete navigating unconscionable
Speaker 1: scrutiny and demonstrated the kind of care and leadership we
Speaker 1: should expect from educators and athletic leaders entrusted with supporting students.
Speaker 1: Here here, this is leadership. We need more compassion in
Speaker 1: our society right now, not less, said signatory and local
Speaker 1: county prosecutor Eli Sabatt. But at the very least, we
Speaker 1: should expect school officials of all people to give every
Speaker 1: child grace and understanding. For a school official to empathize
Speaker 1: with a student who's been targeted by adults isn't objectionable.
Speaker 1: To the contrary, it's the bare minimum we should all expect.
Speaker 1: So there, so there, it's good news, it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what we found. Anyway, it's time for that little
Speaker 1: segment we like to call shine employ people taking pleasure
Speaker 1: and the main yay.
Speaker 2: So the headline Maga Man, which sounds like the worst
Speaker 2: superhero ever. Maga Man secretly recorded men using restrooms yep,
Speaker 2: claiming he was looking to catch grooming. I hope he
Speaker 2: stretched first, because that was some twist.
Speaker 1: Used meta smart glasses to record men using urinals and
Speaker 1: then posted the video to the internet.
Speaker 2: He has been arrested, which should be a perfect example
Speaker 2: of why those smart glasses are not a good fucking idea.
Speaker 1: Right, of course this was in Florida. Of course, this
Speaker 1: was a sixty one year old Florida man.
Speaker 2: Arrested who looks like a thumb.
Speaker 1: Arrested on charges of video voyeurism after filming men in
Speaker 1: the bathroom at the April eighteenth Naples PrideFest and posting
Speaker 1: so he went to Pride to hang in the bathroom.
Speaker 2: To take videos of men, to.
Speaker 1: Take videos of men peeing, so he could catch groomers.
Speaker 2: To make sure that they weren't doing anything.
Speaker 1: Oh wrong, Baby, just.
Speaker 2: Suck the dick. Damn it, God, just suck the dick.
Speaker 1: It would be a kinder world, wouldn't it. God.
Speaker 2: First, you'd feel better and you couldn't talk shit because
Speaker 2: you got a dick in your mouth. God, damn it.
Speaker 1: Dude's name is Andrew Yats. He posted a forty minute
Speaker 1: bodycam video of his sheets of his time at the event,
Speaker 1: which included bathroom footage. The video also shows him asking
Speaker 1: various vendors and attendees whether they think it's against the
Speaker 1: First Amendment that the nearby streets were blocked off, presumably
Speaker 1: for security so that protesters could not get too close.
Speaker 1: Many told him that it was likely a response to
Speaker 1: last year, when the anti LGBTQ plus extremist group Proud.
Speaker 2: Boys showed up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he claimed in the title of the video that
Speaker 1: he was documenting the grooming churches at the Naples Gay
Speaker 1: Pride Tranny event. Well, it says tra ny event. We okay,
Speaker 1: all right, this is what he said or wrote. Comps
Speaker 1: had me follow Oh yeah, this is all his misspelling.
Speaker 1: Sorry everywhere. The video is still up on YouTube. In
Speaker 1: the bathroom footage, he uses the restroom, then captures others
Speaker 1: in a mirror while washing his hands. The people recorded
Speaker 1: ended up being too undercover. Oh this gets better, and
Speaker 1: reportedly told police they felt shocked and embarrassed by the
Speaker 1: video posted online. Yes, I did go in public bathroom.
Speaker 1: Nobody was in there. I went in the stall to pay,
Speaker 1: He told the newspaper. My intent was not to get
Speaker 1: I guess dick picks like they're trying to say, Oh honey,
Speaker 1: if it was illegal, why didn't the comps have it
Speaker 1: taken down? If it was illegal, why isn't their logic
Speaker 1: you know, never ceases.
Speaker 2: Please described my face to me because I know I'm
Speaker 2: making one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what it looks like. I'm not looking
Speaker 1: at you. Um yeah, oh my god. Ry. A statement
Speaker 1: from Naples Pride said Sheets was using meta smart glasses
Speaker 1: to record and pointed out that the irony is difficult
Speaker 1: to ignore. Okay, a man who publicly accused our community
Speaker 1: of grooming now stands accused of unlawfully recording people in
Speaker 1: a place where privacy is expected. Naples Pride remains committed
Speaker 1: to providing a safe, welcoming environment for all Pride Fast
Speaker 1: attendees and is grateful to the Naples Police Department and
Speaker 1: Collier County Sheriff's Office for taking this matter seriously and
Speaker 1: protecting the privacy and safety of those at the event.
Speaker 2: If you would have just sucked the dick, this whole
Speaker 2: thing would have been over in under ten minutes and
Speaker 2: we could have all moved on with our lives. But
Speaker 2: now you've got to Now you're.
Speaker 1: In the system.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: A booking report revealed that detectives were already concerned about
Speaker 1: sheets during the event. One detective said they saw him
Speaker 1: trying to enter the event with a handgun Jesus, but
Speaker 1: securities stopped him. He returned the gun to his car.
Speaker 1: He allegedly returned later to get an air of fifteen
Speaker 1: style rifle and bring it to the event's entrance. She
Speaker 1: has been charged with both video voyeurism and video voyeurism dissemination.
Speaker 2: How small is it, dude?
Speaker 1: Seriously? Yeah? So whatever reason you were there, sir.
Speaker 2: None of it was because of the shit you tried
Speaker 2: to say, no and yeah, consequences God, here they are again,
Speaker 2: just public service announcement.
Speaker 1: Suck the dick right, just stop stop all this. I
Speaker 1: was trying to film rumors, m really really.
Speaker 2: With one hand.
Speaker 1: Good God, Good God in heaven. What's next? Oh? This
Speaker 1: was fun.
Speaker 2: California Supreme Court disbars anti LGBTQ plus lawyer who tried
Speaker 2: to help Trump overturn the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 1: Ah yes.
Speaker 2: John Eastman once chaired the National Organization for Marriage, a
Speaker 2: group that opposed marriage equality. Ah So, the California Supreme
Speaker 2: Court disbarred anti LGBTQ plus lawyer John Eastman from practicing
Speaker 2: law in the state because of his efforts to help
Speaker 2: Donald Trump overturn the twenty twenty presidential elections. The state's
Speaker 2: High Court declined to review Eastman's appeal of a lower
Speaker 2: court's recommendation that he be stripped of his legal license.
Speaker 2: He has pledged to appeal the High Court's decision to
Speaker 2: the US Supreme Court. Shocker, The state Supreme Court upheld
Speaker 2: a twenty twenty four decision by the State Bar Association
Speaker 2: to disbar Eastman. In that decision, State Bar Judge Ivett
Speaker 2: Roland found Eastman culpable on ten of eleven counts filed
Speaker 2: by the California State Bar for his quote, moral turpitude,
Speaker 2: and false and misleading statements about the twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Election Chickens coming home.
Speaker 2: To roost, Yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: Eastman's lawyer, Randall Miller, said that he'll appeal the case
Speaker 2: to the US Supreme Court in an effort to repudiate
Speaker 2: this threat to the rule of law and our nation's
Speaker 2: adversarial system of justice.
Speaker 1: Good Christ, uh huh.
Speaker 2: He still has a license to practice law in DC.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll be more welcome.
Speaker 1: There or Bypox News. God knows he sounds ripe to
Speaker 1: be a comment uh huh.
Speaker 2: Suggested that Trump and the Republican Party tried to overturn
Speaker 2: Trump's twenty twenty election losses in seven key swing states
Speaker 2: using a proposed slate of alternate presidential electors willing to
Speaker 2: vote for Trump in the electoral College. Eastman faced state
Speaker 2: charges along with other lawyers who encouraged Trump supporters to
Speaker 2: sign paperwork falsely attesting that they were legitimate presidential electors
Speaker 2: allowed to vote against President elect Joe Biden's electoral college victory,
Speaker 2: and of course these alternate electors had no legal authority
Speaker 2: to claim themselves as twenty twenty electoral college voters. The
Speaker 2: drafted strategy of Eastman's said that their votes would have
Speaker 2: allowed Trump to claim he'd won more electoral votes than
Speaker 2: the actual winner, Joe Biden, who received over seven million
Speaker 2: more votes than Trump.
Speaker 1: Dude was a fucking idiot. Yeah, and he can't practice
Speaker 1: law in California. Yes, good, good.
Speaker 2: It's called the fuck around and find Out school of Law.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, good.
Speaker 2: In this semester is the find out.
Speaker 1: I want to remember Nuremberg. Oh yes, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I have these visions of accountability in this world, seriously,
Speaker 1: like in this country, of these people who think they
Speaker 1: can get away with everything. I mean, which is what
Speaker 1: this administration is doing right now, right testing every boundary
Speaker 1: of our democracy if it holds, If it holds, uh,
Speaker 1: and there are midterms and they get their ass as
Speaker 1: kicked as they should. Yeah, yeah, I have I have
Speaker 1: dreams of more of this happening, and these people being
Speaker 1: disgraced and descreded. It as they have earned, Yes earned, Yes,
Speaker 1: so good. Yeah good. Here's one this I've been I've
Speaker 1: been dying for this. Kennedy Center.
Speaker 2: Yes, Center orders staff to remove Trump's name. Hallelujah, hallelujah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. On Thursday, this just happened. The Kennedy Center's General
Speaker 1: Council ordered the staff to remove President Donald Trump's name
Speaker 1: from the building by June twelfth, according to a memo
Speaker 1: obtained by less than a week from now, in order
Speaker 1: to comply with a recent court order, staff were also
Speaker 1: instructed to immediately update some Kennedy Center documentation, including their
Speaker 1: email signatures and marketing materials, to remove Trump's name. According
Speaker 1: to the memo, to comply with disorder, you must immediately
Speaker 1: change email signatures, letterhead and other documents to reflect the
Speaker 1: name as the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing
Speaker 1: Arts or Kennedy Center. Other changes, such as to templates
Speaker 1: and forms, sign it brochures, and website pages must be
Speaker 1: completed no later than Friday, June twelveth Get this bullshit
Speaker 1: off of my signageh the director. Is a blow to
Speaker 1: the President's bid to control of the Performing Arts Center
Speaker 1: and his broader effort to put his stamp on the
Speaker 1: nation's capital. His takeover of the institution began in the
Speaker 1: early days of his second term, when he gutted the
Speaker 1: existing board and installed loyalists. Yeah Yeah. When asked for
Speaker 1: comment on the memo, the White House referred CNN to
Speaker 1: Trump's truth social post the fuck out of here, responding
Speaker 1: to last week's court ruling, What what anyway?
Speaker 2: Cut to all of those artists and organizations flooding back?
Speaker 1: One hopes, right, but we don't know how, Like, this
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that the board changes, Like, let's see what happens.
Speaker 1: This shakes the fucking name off it, which is a
Speaker 1: good start, right. US District Judge Casey Cooper concluded that
Speaker 1: the law establishing the center makes crystal clear that the
Speaker 1: center is to be named for President Kennedy and it
Speaker 1: cannot bear any other formal name or public memorial based
Speaker 1: on the board's unilateral say so, Congress gave the Kennedy
Speaker 1: Center its name, and only Congress can change it. He
Speaker 1: gave officials two weeks to remove any signage that included
Speaker 1: Trump's name and update its website to remove all references
Speaker 1: to the name Trump Kennedy Center or the Donald J.
Speaker 1: Trump and John F. Kennedy Memorial Center for the Performing.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. The Kennedy Center is an existing organization.
Speaker 2: The people that are sitting on the board currently are
Speaker 2: the board of the Trump Kennedy. Well, so if that
Speaker 2: organization no longer exists, doesn't that board aren't they stripped
Speaker 2: of power?
Speaker 1: Okay? So since it's founding, the executive branch has had
Speaker 1: oversight over the board of trustees, meaning the President has
Speaker 1: had oversight over that, while Congress has been responsible for
Speaker 1: annual appropriations for its operation and maintenance. So I don't
Speaker 1: know that he's According to Trump, I have instructed the
Speaker 1: Department of Commerce to make all necessary arrangements with Congress
Speaker 1: to allow a full and complete transfer of this institution,
Speaker 1: giving them the responsibility of its operation, maintenance, and management.
Speaker 1: He wrote on a true social post. Of course he's
Speaker 1: being treated unfairly. He has no interest in continuing lest
Speaker 1: he was free to do what he wanted to do.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So if that's the case, then I hope that Congress
Speaker 1: becomes turns blue and gets rid of all these Charlottan's
Speaker 1: and puts back a board that actually knows something about
Speaker 1: what they're doing exactly.
Speaker 2: And then would get some actual artists in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we could get some actual artists back in
Speaker 1: the Kennedy and.
Speaker 2: That would frost his fucking cookies. If everybody came screaming
Speaker 2: back again.
Speaker 1: You know they would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why is everybody performing to?
Speaker 1: This is a big smack in the face.
Speaker 2: Yep, And I love it. Maybe it'll wake him up.
Speaker 1: You can't wake dementia. It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2: I mean, literally wake him up. He's always fallen asleep.
Speaker 1: Okay and right. A judge tosses the Kennedy Center suit
Speaker 1: against a musician who canceled their Christmas Eve show.
Speaker 2: Ah, it was a nice little one two punch m hm.
Speaker 1: Attorneys from musician Chuck Red say a DC Superior Court
Speaker 1: judge dismissed a breach of contract lawsuit filed against Red
Speaker 1: after he canceled a Christmas Eve performance at the Kennedy
Speaker 1: Center in protest of President Donald Trump's influencer over the venue,
Speaker 1: which any and everyone of any character did. The dismissal
Speaker 1: on Friday was granted under Washington's anti slap laws, which
Speaker 1: are I know, which are designated to prevent meritless lawsuits
Speaker 1: intended to silence opposing points of view on matters of
Speaker 1: public interest. Read a drummer and vibraphone player who has
Speaker 1: toured with everyone from Dizzy Gillespie to Ray Brown, has
Speaker 1: presided over our holiday jazz jams at the Kennedy Center
Speaker 1: since two thousand and six.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: He called off last year's performance shortly after Trump's handpicked
Speaker 1: board at the Kennedy Center voted to add the president's
Speaker 1: name to the facility.
Speaker 2: He said, do bodoo hell no.
Speaker 1: Quote. One of his lawyers, Lisa J. Banks said, quote.
Speaker 1: The Center sued mister Red because he publicly and rightly
Speaker 1: object acted to adding Donald Trump's name to the Kennedy Center,
Speaker 1: a living memorial to former President John F. Kennedy. Yep,
Speaker 1: this is his lawyer, Lisa J. Banks, one of his lawyers.
Speaker 1: The lawsuit against mister Red was political retribution, pure and
Speaker 1: simple by the Trump Kennedy Center, and the court correctly
Speaker 1: solid as such and dismissing the case with prejudice. They
Speaker 1: can't bring it back. Ah. Yep, so good good. They're
Speaker 1: very pleased with the judges reeling another smack in the face. Yep,
Speaker 1: this is what happens. This is what happens when you
Speaker 1: vote for a reality star, especially the second time. This
Speaker 1: is what you get. I'm assuming he actually wanted to form,
Speaker 1: but this is what you get. You get, you know,
Speaker 1: from top to bottom, idiots sick of fans running the government. Indeed, yeah,
Speaker 1: you get lobbyists running you know, the institutions that are
Speaker 1: supposed to keep us safe. Yeah, the regulatory institutions. All
Speaker 1: about money, all about greed, all about power, all about nonsense. Yep,
Speaker 1: oh god, I want the experts in charge again, you know,
Speaker 1: I miss adults?
Speaker 2: Word up?
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah. This has been your moment of.
Speaker 4: Employ people taking pleasure.
Speaker 2: Real and we're grateful for it.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. So that's been more fun stuff, So hopefully
Speaker 1: we'll get to more later. Kids. Do you have a
Speaker 1: And I know that you have been telling me you
Speaker 1: have had several fifteen minute phaves that have come and
Speaker 1: gone since last we sat down to record. Do you
Speaker 1: have a fifteen minute today you would like to share?
Speaker 2: I do, And luckily this one is one that I've
Speaker 2: been holding on to for a while because it keeps
Speaker 2: just living in my head. And now we're in Pride season,
Speaker 2: so it's even more appropriate. I believe I said to
Speaker 2: you when this song came out that it was officially
Speaker 2: the faggottiest thing on the planet, and I found you
Speaker 2: say that.
Speaker 1: It's like there's been a race, so who skipped it
Speaker 1: across the finish line first.
Speaker 2: This week is still holding the top spot in my
Speaker 2: head is a Runway by Lady Gaga in Doci.
Speaker 1: I just you've been dying to talk about this.
Speaker 2: I can't quit this song. It's so fierce, it's so fun,
Speaker 2: it's so faggety, like my wrists just get limper every
Speaker 2: time I listen to it. I always put it on
Speaker 2: first thing when I'm driving to work because it just
Speaker 2: gives me that it's a toss up between this song
Speaker 2: and the County as to which I play first to
Speaker 2: go to work. But we already did the Counties fifty
Speaker 2: minute fave, so we did.
Speaker 1: But you know, hey, yeah, shout out.
Speaker 2: So this week is is Runway by Lady Gaga and
Speaker 2: Doci aka the faggetiest song ever.
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll be right back, Mahalla play might be
Speaker 1: on time.
Speaker 2: Just wait on, come on this Papa, little little.
Speaker 1: Saturday on the front roll swimming.
Speaker 4: Yes, doing sw yes, little know on that girl Monday Sunday,
Speaker 4: I can try to dance angel A runway Monday, Sunday
Speaker 4: Love on.
Speaker 2: Monday.
Speaker 5: I could turn a dance door into a free weeks.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make broom my bodies on a rat can.
Speaker 5: A man who into a fan camera flashing lights.
Speaker 2: On fucking click click click click everywhere I go.
Speaker 5: Canny can't get me face cart pro never don't see
Speaker 5: me waiting at I don't know.
Speaker 2: Get out of the way home.
Speaker 1: And we're back. We're back, all right, that's fun. It
Speaker 1: might not be the gayest thing I've ever heard, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's up there.
Speaker 2: I didn't say the gayest, saidagular.
Speaker 1: Faggotyes, you did say that.
Speaker 2: I made that distinction on purpose.
Speaker 1: There's a local organization called FAF and h my cousin
Speaker 1: and one of our friends, we have called each other
Speaker 1: fasts for a very long time, which means faggotty as
Speaker 1: faggott huh, you know, inside joke. And I can't read
Speaker 1: that and and not think of that. And I don't
Speaker 1: know what their achronism Steven stands for, but that's what
Speaker 1: I always here in my head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you spoke at their pride last year
Speaker 2: and baff was spray painted on all the like stamps
Speaker 2: it on the ground like everywhere, and I was like,
Speaker 2: that's not okay.
Speaker 1: They they didn't mean it the way we do it.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, wait, wait, wait, that can't
Speaker 2: be with it. Let me go ask them what does
Speaker 2: that mean? And they say what it was like, oh okay.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean what it has always meant to us
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: It was and it was in rainbow colors. I was like,
Speaker 2: who did you know?
Speaker 1: Right? You thought my cousin was there earlier? Right now?
Speaker 1: A he wouldn't put out that effort. He's he supports me. Nope,
Speaker 1: Oh good god. So you know, in honor of Pride month,
Speaker 1: fuck the cavalcade. You know, there's a bunch of stories
Speaker 1: we could talk about.
Speaker 2: I don't want to You are not going to get
Speaker 2: an argument out of me.
Speaker 1: I don't want to know. There is always nonsense. There's
Speaker 1: always going to be. Nobody said the board, nobody said
Speaker 1: the patriarchy was going to go down without a fight.
Speaker 1: Word keep on fighting indeed. So yeah, look we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna move right on. And pop culture yeay, let's
Speaker 1: let's the culture that hurts with a nail. That's the
Speaker 1: official sound effect that might be Yeah, if it picked
Speaker 1: it up, so Madonna. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, in honor of Pride kicking off, all.
Speaker 1: Right over there, I'm fine, Okay.
Speaker 2: In honor of Pride kicking off, Madonna did a little
Speaker 2: pop up surprise concert in Times Square. Cool. Yeah. So her,
Speaker 2: she's got a Grinder. Yeah, she's got a new album
Speaker 2: coming out, and it's Confessions Too, which I'm actually looking
Speaker 2: forward to because Confessions one was fierce. It was like
Speaker 2: a continuous bunch of nineties house style songs and Confessions
Speaker 2: on the dance floor of the album was called and
Speaker 2: I love that album. So I'm looking forward to Confessions Too.
Speaker 2: And she has been proming this album. It's in collaboration
Speaker 2: with Grinder. In fact, the announcement that the album was
Speaker 2: coming out was announced on Grinder. That's amazing thereby letting
Speaker 2: a lot of girlfriends know what their boyfriends have been
Speaker 2: up to because all of a sudden, their man's phone
Speaker 2: is got Madonna's screaming at him. Oh hey, bitch.
Speaker 1: Yeah. She's been lurking on Grinder, issuing limited edition vinyl
Speaker 1: versions of her new album Confessions to via the app,
Speaker 1: and taking part in exclusive interviews.
Speaker 2: Go where the audience.
Speaker 1: Is hey, at least some of it. The latest installment
Speaker 1: of the campaign took place this past Thursday. Friend yep
Speaker 1: Grinder warned users for the previous twenty four hours that
Speaker 1: Madonna would be live streaming on the app. What it
Speaker 1: did not reveal until nearer the hour was that the
Speaker 1: live stream would be a surprise pop up concert live
Speaker 1: from Times Square. Got six thirty yep, fun.
Speaker 2: Do you see this picture?
Speaker 1: Fun?
Speaker 2: That's a lot of gaze.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, that's a whole lot of gaze. It was
Speaker 1: an eighteen minute show. She treated the audience to three
Speaker 1: tracks from her new album, which is out on July third,
Speaker 1: and three from the original Confessions on the Dance Floor album,
Speaker 1: So they got six songs and she wished the crowd
Speaker 1: happy Pride.
Speaker 2: And luckily there was no way for her to blast
Speaker 2: the heat on all of Times Square and show up
Speaker 2: three hours late by doing so.
Speaker 1: Now, apparently this one was on time right, or it
Speaker 1: was originally going to be three thirty and when they
Speaker 1: finally realized she was walking to the stage right. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Anyway, that was fun, fun for Pride cools.
Speaker 1: She is still doing the thing she is. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: you know. Whenever we have that argument about Gaga where
Speaker 1: I am. I'm pro Gaga, But you know Madonna. I
Speaker 1: have been around alive long enough to watch Madonna's entire
Speaker 1: rise to fame, and she is a phenomenal business woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that no argument.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I hear she thinks that was me. I
Speaker 1: There are so many Madonna's songs I love. They're part
Speaker 1: of the vernacular.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Madonna. There was there's a chunk of
Speaker 2: her career that I was side eyeing her only because
Speaker 2: like some of the stuff she was doing was just
Speaker 2: wreaking of like desperation for relevance, and I'm like, you're
Speaker 2: already Madonna, you don't mean to do that, baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah that.
Speaker 2: Plus, I wasn't crazy about a lot of her newer music,
Speaker 2: Like I hear you, what did I say about one album?
Speaker 2: I was like, this album sounds like all the songs
Speaker 2: that I would have skipped on her other album just
Speaker 2: lumped together as one album.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she.
Speaker 2: Also has stuff I like, so you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, she's Madonna.
Speaker 2: I'm not there's I'm always going to be a fan
Speaker 2: of Madonna.
Speaker 1: I skipped a cavalcade. I'm not going to be the cavalcade.
Speaker 1: Enough already, but yeah, cool, that was a cool event.
Speaker 1: And apparently yeah, happened the same day she said it would,
Speaker 1: unlike some of her concerts, what.
Speaker 2: Happens on the same day, just not the same part
Speaker 2: of the day.
Speaker 1: Right, right? What did she start that one show? Was
Speaker 1: at seven thirty eight o'clock. I was supposed to start
Speaker 1: it with somewhere after eleven pm, huh and yeah, and
Speaker 1: the audience was baking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's especially up high.
Speaker 1: And it stands because heat rises.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, those of us that are at
Speaker 2: this concert are have been there for her for a while,
Speaker 2: a good portion of our lives. So we're a little
Speaker 2: older now and we're like we got to go to
Speaker 2: work in the morning, and shit, we we only had
Speaker 2: childcare up and I know, yeah.
Speaker 1: It was crazy because friends of ours went and they
Speaker 1: were like dying up in the stands. Yeah, but they're
Speaker 1: die hard fans, and you know, I can't stand that.
Speaker 1: You know, who was on time? Share And if share
Speaker 1: can be on time, yeah, everyone can be on time
Speaker 1: to I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: To the motherfucking second. Yes, we were still on the
Speaker 2: escalator going to our seat when we heard the first song.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, shit. Yeah, well no, Well, Cindy Lauper,
Speaker 2: who's Cdy Lauper.
Speaker 1: Was already on because she was on time, and then
Speaker 1: so was Share following her. I did not hold the curtain.
Speaker 2: Curtain was eleven o'clock and it was seven oh two.
Speaker 2: We're like, oh, she's got time to get to our
Speaker 2: Both of those legends didn't even give us time to
Speaker 2: get to our seats.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, so, yeah, whatever, but yeah, cool, it's cool.
Speaker 1: It's pop culture. That's what we're here for right now,
Speaker 1: is pop culture. Why am I having? What was I reading?
Speaker 1: I've read it to you the other day and it
Speaker 1: was some dude crowing about being an alpha male and
Speaker 1: a woman commented, you know, one man's alpha male is
Speaker 1: another woman's pretty pretty princess. And I don't know why
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about that now, but it just seemed to fit.
Speaker 1: Christopher Maloney says an emotional goodbye to Stabler. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Law and Order Organized Crime. It was a great ride.
Speaker 1: I sw I know you did, and I love him.
Speaker 1: He's done. What did we just watched last night?
Speaker 2: We just watched you finally saw Bound.
Speaker 1: I finally saw it because we did sign up for
Speaker 1: Canopy yes, God bless our local library. And there's some
Speaker 1: great shit on canopy.
Speaker 2: It's free.
Speaker 1: All you need is a library car and you get
Speaker 1: I don't know, twelve points a month, sixteen sixteen points
Speaker 1: a month, which is about eight movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, most movies. Most things are two tickets, which means.
Speaker 1: We each get eight.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: And so we were looking for a movie to watch
Speaker 1: last night, and Bound came up and it was it
Speaker 1: is the Wakowski Sisters first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, their first theatrical release.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really good.
Speaker 2: And I love that you had never seen it before.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, I get to watch you watch this
Speaker 2: for the first time.
Speaker 1: I have never seen it before. And a very young
Speaker 1: Christopher maloneous Yes, plays a central.
Speaker 2: Character who I completely forgot about.
Speaker 1: He has played some crazy fuckers over time. He can
Speaker 1: bring that energy. God knows, it's the same energy he
Speaker 1: brought to Oz.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But he also was Stabler for so many years. And
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm a huge just for you fan, and
Speaker 1: I really liked Organized Crime, yeah, where he was the
Speaker 1: central character. He debuted the hot headed detective character almost
Speaker 1: thirty years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah that sounds right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he is sharing an emotional goodbye to detective
Speaker 1: Elliott Stabler. This show was canceled on Thursday after five seasons,
Speaker 1: so for now this is it. Yeah. He began in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine in Law and Order Special Victims Unit,
Speaker 1: premiered three years after Bound.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's sad, he said. I just saw that
Speaker 1: they announced Organized Crime won't be coming back. So I
Speaker 1: wanted to take this moment to say thank you to
Speaker 1: the fans who not only helped give the character of
Speaker 1: Elliott Stabler life and longevity, but for sticking with him
Speaker 1: and welcoming him back.
Speaker 2: He and a bunch of fellow s few co stars
Speaker 2: went to see Marishka Hargate on Broadway.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I made her Broadway debut this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in something that Excellent Things or exquisite Things or
Speaker 1: every excellent something. I don't know the title of it.
Speaker 1: I just read that she's killing it, but I love that.
Speaker 1: They all want to see her every brilliant thing, every
Speaker 1: brilliant thing. That's it. Yes, and they were. They were
Speaker 1: incredible together. They created you know, the duo for all
Speaker 1: those years.
Speaker 2: Did Benson and Stabler ever actually do it? No, damn it.
Speaker 1: They were the beloved partnership of the Law and Order universe,
Speaker 1: and that dynamic was suddenly ripped away when he departed
Speaker 1: SVU in twenty eleven. He eventually reprised the role with
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one launch of Organized Crime, which found
Speaker 1: Stabler coming back to the force and working to bring
Speaker 1: down New York's most dangerous organized crime syndicates. And it
Speaker 1: moved from Peacock for season five, and the cancelation news
Speaker 1: is less than surprising, considering it's been almost a year
Speaker 1: since the Now series finale and.
Speaker 2: The most recent season moved. Where did it go to?
Speaker 1: I forget remember how it still was able to watch
Speaker 1: because they because they were able to curse.
Speaker 2: Yes, it it got a little someone said fucking and we.
Speaker 1: Were like wait, wait, wait what Yeah, when it moved,
Speaker 1: but you know, for a season. But yeah, it's so okay. Hey,
Speaker 1: I mean you know, I he was off of SBU
Speaker 1: for ten years, came back, we got five seasons, lovely,
Speaker 1: it was great end of an era. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: is a versial actor. I mean, he's going to be
Speaker 1: out there. He's not just Stabler. We know him for
Speaker 1: other things and we'll The thing.
Speaker 2: About organized Crime, though, is like, okay, how often can
Speaker 2: this dude go completely under because he has a very
Speaker 2: distinctive look and so many places you can.
Speaker 1: Do they not know. That's how do they not know?
Speaker 2: Look for the scruff daddy.
Speaker 1: We saw all of him in OZ. That was fun. Anyway,
Speaker 1: what's next? Returning tonight?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, interview with the Vampire new season. It's coming
Speaker 2: on tonight and they are doing the vampireless stat And
Speaker 2: I am very, very very excited. I can tell because
Speaker 2: that's like my favorite portion of the storyline where he's
Speaker 2: a rock star. He goes into the ground for however long,
Speaker 2: however many hundred years, and then like music wakes him
Speaker 2: up and he's like, oh, what's that?
Speaker 1: And then he decides to.
Speaker 2: Be a rock star and his bad ass ory just
Speaker 2: just just levels up. Okay, and you've seen the actor
Speaker 2: that plays the stat. Yes, so there's going to be
Speaker 2: a lot of him shirtless, wearing leather something.
Speaker 1: So just so you know that's something if you're really committed,
Speaker 1: you'll do full front.
Speaker 2: Just think I would not put it past them.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well you'll let me know you're gonna watch it too.
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, I don't don't front, Okay, I just I
Speaker 2: love well because you know, I love how they lean
Speaker 2: into the gayness of the source material. They they didn't
Speaker 2: try to straightwash it like the fucking movie.
Speaker 1: So it's true and I love that.
Speaker 2: So this season's gonna be good. What else we got,
Speaker 2: We went on a Marlin Riggs down a rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: I discovered that Tongues Untied was on a canopy.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Tongues Untied was the seminal piece of black queer cinema
Speaker 2: from nineteen eighty nine, uh, directed and written by Marlon Riggs.
Speaker 2: And it was not so much off film as it
Speaker 2: was like I'm not even sure how you It was
Speaker 2: like a piece I believe is what I called it.
Speaker 2: It was a piece because there's art, yeah, exactly, because
Speaker 2: there was like poetry and spoken word and sound effects
Speaker 2: and essays and imagery. But it all centered around the
Speaker 2: various aspects of black gayness, black male gayness in the
Speaker 2: late eighties early nineties. And it was one of those
Speaker 2: things that like I never got to see when it
Speaker 2: was out, just because you know, when it came out,
Speaker 2: I wasn't in that place, and then I couldn't find
Speaker 2: it anywhere. And when we interviewed John S. Garrison on
Speaker 2: the podcast about red, Hot, and blue. There were several
Speaker 2: references to tongues untied, and that put it back in
Speaker 2: my brain and I was like, I never saw that.
Speaker 2: So we got to see that on canopy then, you know,
Speaker 2: I was like, well, if you like that, then you
Speaker 2: probably like this. And that took us to a Color Correction,
Speaker 2: which was his documentary about the representation of black people
Speaker 2: in television. So it took us through from Amos and
Speaker 2: Andy to the most recent show at the time, which
Speaker 2: was The Cosby Show at least, and that was good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: And there's still a few other things of his that
Speaker 2: we are on our list that we have to watch.
Speaker 2: We've been sitting and watching The Black Scholars lately in
Speaker 2: our free time, you and I. Yeah, we have, and
Speaker 2: I've been enjoying it. It's been very cool, a very
Speaker 2: cool way to spend our time.
Speaker 1: I wonder how much of that, I mean, because we
Speaker 1: talked about the Harlem Renaissance. Of course, when we were
Speaker 1: talking about ain't misbehaving and oh yea yeah, I saw
Speaker 1: the piece and you know, so maybe it's all just
Speaker 1: connected plus white people going to white and sometimes you
Speaker 1: need to break my listener.
Speaker 2: We watched a lot of We've been watching a lot
Speaker 2: of of content surrounding James Baldwin. Yes, we watched I'm
Speaker 2: Not Your Negro, which is a fabulous film centered around
Speaker 2: his I watched it again, Yeah, sent around his words,
Speaker 2: his writing, narrated by Samuel L. Jackson, And we found
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of interviews, yeah, with James Baldwin, and
Speaker 2: just like televised conversations, notably like him and My Angelou.
Speaker 2: They had a wonderful conversation that we watched.
Speaker 1: Well, and that was, you know, the other thing that
Speaker 1: was happening. I was researching for the talk I gave
Speaker 1: in early May Yes, which is on our website that
Speaker 1: I called lies, damn lies and statistics. Yes, and you
Speaker 1: know I can't. That research took me right back to
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of Maya's work and some of
Speaker 1: James Baldwin and yeah, brought me right back into Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it got me back into the mood to revisit
Speaker 2: his writing because we have so much of it. And
Speaker 2: then there was others that we didn't. So I've been
Speaker 2: getting more stuff. And one of the ones that stood
Speaker 2: out to me, one of the conversations we watched that
Speaker 2: so to me was the interview, he was in Paris
Speaker 2: and it was the British film crew that wanted to
Speaker 2: talk to him about his work, and he was just
Speaker 2: in a place and a mood he was in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he did not want to talk about himself. He wanted
Speaker 2: to talk about like the oppression of black people that
Speaker 2: was happening in the States, and that's why he was
Speaker 2: in Paris and like, so he re routed the entire
Speaker 2: project and it led to him and a bunch of
Speaker 2: young black students that he had met in Paris, and
Speaker 2: then they had this roundtable discussion about art and race
Speaker 2: and identity and it was brilliant. And I've been loving that.
Speaker 2: That's how we've been spending our time when we weren't
Speaker 2: watching movies and TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also also Soft and Quiet.
Speaker 2: Oh god, damn it. So I am a fan of
Speaker 2: another podcast called Girl That's Scary, and it's these two
Speaker 2: black women who talk about horror movies. I love them
Speaker 2: so much. And they had mentioned offhandedly a film called
Speaker 2: Soft and Quiet, and I was like, huh, what's that about?
Speaker 2: So I went and read the description and I was like,
Speaker 2: this is intriguing.
Speaker 1: And so I.
Speaker 2: Found the movie and I watched it and chaw, I
Speaker 2: just want to know who the fuck this film is for.
Speaker 2: So Soft and Quiet is a film came up with
Speaker 2: the past five, six, seven years, and it opens with
Speaker 2: this white woman. She is walking to pick up her
Speaker 2: son from school. She's carrying a pie and then she
Speaker 2: drops him off and then she goes to this meeting
Speaker 2: where these other little white women are and it's the
Speaker 2: first meeting of this little group that they decided to
Speaker 2: put together. And she was like, I brought pie, and
Speaker 2: then she puts the pie down, she takes the foil
Speaker 2: off the pie. Is the fucking swastika baked into the
Speaker 2: cross of the pie. It's a fucking meeting for neo
Speaker 2: Nazi women. And like the whole thing is like, you know,
Speaker 2: where the women and we move softly and quietly in
Speaker 2: ways that our men can so we can get our
Speaker 2: message across. And then the whole thing just went left.
Speaker 2: That's the best way I can describe it. And by
Speaker 2: the time it was done, I was like, goddamn, that
Speaker 2: was fucked up? And who was this four? Because it
Speaker 2: wasn't for me, it wasn't for nobody black. You ain't
Speaker 2: teaching nobody white nothing. White women are fucked up too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we knew that like it.
Speaker 1: Till the oldest.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I didn't like it. I didn't like it,
Speaker 2: that's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But when you're wondering why something was made, yeah
Speaker 1: I did. Because they didn't know who their audience was.
Speaker 2: And the ending was was supposed, I guess, supposed to
Speaker 2: give us some hope, but it's like there was no
Speaker 2: hope because of everything that happened before. Somebody need I
Speaker 2: needed to like ask some questions like what the fuck?
Speaker 2: So well, I understand why the ladies of Girl That's
Speaker 2: Scary mentioned the movie and the tone of voice that
Speaker 2: they did.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you at least get that I do.
Speaker 2: So Yeah, Invincible had a new season and it was
Speaker 2: like four episodes in before I even knew that there
Speaker 2: was a new season. I'm like, no one was gonna
Speaker 2: fucking tell me shit. And so I caught the new season.
Speaker 2: It was real, real good. And that show is so
Speaker 2: like raw and violent and but that's why we love it.
Speaker 2: And the whole thing is like, you know, if you
Speaker 2: have power, like how does that power define you? You know,
Speaker 2: and what is your responsibility in wielding that power? And
Speaker 2: if you misuse that power and you want to atone.
Speaker 2: There's a racial parallel. It's like the immediate parallel will
Speaker 2: be like these Maga people who are seeing the error
Speaker 2: of their ways and then wanting to atone for what
Speaker 2: they did. You have to accept the fact that a
Speaker 2: lot of the people that you hurt don't give a
Speaker 2: fuck that you're sorry, And in order for you to
Speaker 2: get any semblance of reconciliation, you're going to have to
Speaker 2: put at least as much time into making up for
Speaker 2: what you did as the offenses that you made right,
Speaker 2: you know. And there's an element of that in this
Speaker 2: past season of Invincible. I am glad that I was
Speaker 2: made aware. It's on It's on Amazon Prime. It is
Speaker 2: an animated series, season four. It's based on a comic book. Basically,
Speaker 2: it's about superheroes, and there's this one character, Ultra Uh
Speaker 2: I forget, I can't remember his fucking name anyway. He
Speaker 2: comes from this planet where everybody is like insanely powerful
Speaker 2: and like his original mission was to come to Earth
Speaker 2: and like scout it out so that he can take
Speaker 2: it over. And then he ended up falling in love
Speaker 2: with a woman and having a kid, and it's a
Speaker 2: whole thing it's very good.
Speaker 1: Got it now, I was getting, you know, like I
Speaker 1: love the themes that they're examining.
Speaker 2: Well, like for two seasons, basically he was like a
Speaker 2: villain and he was like killing everything and everyone and
Speaker 2: you know, like I can destroy this planet and you
Speaker 2: better bow down, bitches. And then in the most recent
Speaker 2: season he's like, yeah, I shouldn't have done that, and
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, and everyone's like, oh, you're sorry. That's so cute.
Speaker 2: I don't have a family anymore, bitch, you know, like
Speaker 2: that right, and he's like, but I'm sorry, and then
Speaker 2: they spit in his face and he has to take
Speaker 2: it because he knows what he did.
Speaker 1: So at least in the cartoons.
Speaker 2: Yes, that part.
Speaker 1: The four seasons we watched.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Season two of four seasons is on Netflix. Calmin
Speaker 2: Domingo and Tina Fey and Steve Correll and Will Forte and.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, based off some you know, the original movie,
Speaker 1: Alan Alda does a cameo Alan Alda, Carol Burnette at
Speaker 1: all a Sandy Dennis. So I can't stand et cetera.
Speaker 1: And this is the series and it's cute. It's better
Speaker 1: than that's interesting. You said, Well, there you go.
Speaker 2: Fine, and I didn't hate the movie, but the series
Speaker 2: is way better.
Speaker 1: Well, there you go. So and we went. We blew
Speaker 1: through season two in a day and a half, which
Speaker 1: is available. Yes, Hacks serious finale series, damn it. I
Speaker 1: loved Hacks. I loved Jean Smart's whole good mh. I
Speaker 1: love that she had this because I've always loved her.
Speaker 1: And we got Hannah Einbinder out of the whole deal.
Speaker 2: So, Yeah, the ending was satisfying.
Speaker 1: It was. It kind of wrapped things up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't go where I thought it was going
Speaker 2: to go, but I was happy that it went where
Speaker 2: it went.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it tied it with a bow. I guess I'm
Speaker 1: sad it's done. It was good.
Speaker 2: And that show is funny.
Speaker 1: It's fun it's funny.
Speaker 2: I really liked so many different levels. Yep, just and
Speaker 2: I and I love and I've said this, I probably
Speaker 2: say this every year when we talk about it. I
Speaker 2: love the fact that the main character is a stand
Speaker 2: up comedian who is actually funny.
Speaker 1: Right, it's true, actually funny.
Speaker 2: You watch The Pit.
Speaker 1: I watched The Pit. Yeah, I like it. There's been
Speaker 1: now two seasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I get I like it.
Speaker 1: It was acclaimed, you know Wiley, Yeah, graduate graduated from
Speaker 1: er to the pit. Yeah, I liked it. Is that
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: It has that same device as twenty four, where the
Speaker 2: season is a the season is a day, right, Well,
Speaker 2: in twenty four a shift the season right in twenty four,
Speaker 2: the season was a day in the pit. The season
Speaker 2: is a shift.
Speaker 1: Like a one twelve hour shift, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 2: And every episode is an hour of that shift.
Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah. Interesting, So it's interestingly well done.
Speaker 1: You know there was a time, you know, time had
Speaker 1: elapsed between season one and two. I assume the same
Speaker 1: thing will happen, you know, before season three. But definitely
Speaker 1: worth watching. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: I like that device and so and you know, there's
Speaker 2: a reason why you don't see it used that often
Speaker 2: because it has to be centered in a setting that
Speaker 2: where enough ship happens that each episode can be an
Speaker 2: hour right of a day.
Speaker 1: Of a day. Yea, and the whole interesting, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: move forward. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know the emergency department of a hospital.
Speaker 2: Enough ship's gonna happy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had heard good things and and tuned in, wasn't disappointed,
Speaker 1: and I'm through it. You were like me, so fine,
Speaker 1: it's allow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little too dry for me and Engross.
Speaker 1: Okay, well you had those moments for sure. Hbo mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Imperfect Women.
Speaker 2: Imperfect Women was good. It was the limited series Kerry Washington,
Speaker 2: Kerrie Washington, Elizabeth Moss, the chick that was the wife
Speaker 2: in season one of Poe's. Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, that one really good, really interesting, really nicely done.
Speaker 2: There's an influx of who done it on television lately? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I do enjoy those me too. Yeah, so I
Speaker 2: recommend Imperfect Women. We saw so many things.
Speaker 1: We did. The one I really want to talk about,
Speaker 1: Ted Lasso.
Speaker 2: We avoided Ted Lasso, I you know, for a reason,
Speaker 2: but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what the reasons were. It seemed
Speaker 1: to be sports centric.
Speaker 2: Right, well, it felt very like heteros normative did in
Speaker 2: sports bali.
Speaker 1: And very It sort of gave me this smell of like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, college football or something. I wasn't interested
Speaker 1: in finding out more.
Speaker 2: And a couple of people told us you'll hate the
Speaker 2: main character at first, but then after a few episodes,
Speaker 2: you'll like it, which ended up might even being true.
Speaker 2: When we watched it, right.
Speaker 1: It didn't. It didn't. I I'm sorry that. I'm grateful
Speaker 1: that by the time we caught onto it, there were
Speaker 1: three whole seasons to watch, right. But I feel like
Speaker 1: I was late to the party. And if I ever
Speaker 1: said a negative word about it, I apologize it.
Speaker 2: Saying I've been putting people on and everyone's been saying
Speaker 2: the same thing I wanted to. I heard that it
Speaker 2: was good, it just didn't feel like it was for me,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, really watch it.
Speaker 1: I really felt like it would not be for us
Speaker 1: at all, and I was mistaken. Yeah, it's really feel
Speaker 1: good television, some great messages. I feel about ted Lasso
Speaker 1: the way Kathy felt about Barbie.
Speaker 2: See. I feel the same way about Ted Last. So
Speaker 2: as I felt about The Good Place.
Speaker 1: I didn't love the Good Place. It was fine.
Speaker 2: Oh, I loved it. It was fine, smart, and it
Speaker 2: was feel good and it was uplifting.
Speaker 1: All loved it more than I did. It was it
Speaker 1: was fine, it was fine. I felt tedious. But this
Speaker 1: what I loved about Ted Last.
Speaker 2: So it's like, what is this like emotional maturity, non
Speaker 2: toxic masculinity exactly. People like changing their mind about their
Speaker 2: preconceived notions of people and rottery and empathy and holy shit.
Speaker 1: And situations that could have gone very wrong, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was heartwarming. Yeah. I shed several tears, we
Speaker 1: both did, and it was just beautifully done. And so
Speaker 1: Jason say, I have this entire new found respect for
Speaker 1: him and this work. And it really was lovely.
Speaker 2: And the third season was supposed to be the final season, final,
Speaker 2: final season, and it reads like it was. It does
Speaker 2: read like it could have been the end of the
Speaker 2: whole thing, and there will be a fourth season coming
Speaker 2: out what August I think, Yeah, it sounds right, so
Speaker 2: that'll be interesting to say. I loved it, Yeah, loved it.
Speaker 2: It's feel good television. Indeed, it was funny, it was heartwarming,
Speaker 2: it was inspiring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, good stuff. I loved it, really good stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know what my resistance was, but it was
Speaker 1: just like one day, I'm like, oh, what the hell,
Speaker 1: let's try right and right exactly. So yeah, and so
Speaker 1: we binged over the course of a week or two
Speaker 1: all three seasons. It was worth it, I agree. So,
Speaker 1: but you're welcome to talk about that.
Speaker 2: So it's fucking drag Race All stars A love it and.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about it. She's still cracking.
Speaker 2: Yes, they're so, they're they're bringing back this idea of
Speaker 2: brackets for All Stars. So it's like there's six twelve,
Speaker 2: eighteen queens and each is six per bracket and three
Speaker 2: weeks per bracket, and then the top two from each
Speaker 2: bracket move on, and then at the top six go
Speaker 2: to the semifinals and then it gets down to a
Speaker 2: final two and then someone wins. And I don't like
Speaker 2: this format. I like the fact that there's so many
Speaker 2: queens and you get to see them and like it
Speaker 2: refreshes in three weeks. But it's like the steaks are
Speaker 2: so crazy and there's desperation. I don't know, it's just.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So but you know, got to see Vivacious back
Speaker 2: on television and in Crystal Method, and it's it's it's
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just watching it because I watch
Speaker 2: All Stars. I don't never give a shit about the
Speaker 2: main season, but it's All Stars. I'm watching it. And
Speaker 2: we just did bracket too, so three more and then
Speaker 2: things okay, yeah, basic, that's kind of been about that show,
Speaker 2: like for the past few seasons time.
Speaker 1: It's like yeah, I'm just over.
Speaker 2: I know you are, we know now, we fucking no,
Speaker 2: but I am. Finally, I'm currently watching Spider and Noir
Speaker 2: on Amazon Prime, which I've been excited about because it's
Speaker 2: an iteration of Spider Man that I have always been
Speaker 2: intrigued by. Spider Noir. It takes place in this alternate
Speaker 2: reality where it's nineteen thirties or forties New York and
Speaker 2: Spider Man's like a gumshoe detective and in this version
Speaker 2: he's played by Nicholas Cage. And this is like the
Speaker 2: most subdued acting I've ever seen from Nicholas Cage. Really. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's really cool.
Speaker 1: And he's playing.
Speaker 2: He's playing Spider Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me a little long in the tooth to play
Speaker 1: Spider Man.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing with this particular version, like he's
Speaker 2: a little the word might be older than the word
Speaker 2: coming to mind is grizzled, but that's not it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's like the one I was thinking.
Speaker 2: He's a little world weary and he's yeah, but he
Speaker 2: still like does the webs and the swinging and the things. Really,
Speaker 2: but it's Nicholas Cage, Yeah, and he's a he's a
Speaker 2: detective and it's it's done like noir style, that it's
Speaker 2: in black and white, and it's filmed for black and white,
Speaker 2: but they give you the option of watching it in color.
Speaker 2: For some reason, I haven't done that. I've been watching
Speaker 2: it in the black and white is intended.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, it's a series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a series.
Speaker 1: So Nicholas Cage is doing a series. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: very cool.
Speaker 2: I'm liking it fun. Did you know how I feel
Speaker 2: bout Spider Man?
Speaker 1: Yes, I know that you love Spider Man. I do
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, he's sixty two, he's older than me.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, wait a minute. Yeah, it's good though, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's intrigued, like you might actually enjoy it. Maybe I'm
Speaker 1: it's story driven. Okay, at first glance, I'm feeling the
Speaker 1: way I feel about the Madonna perfume commercial, like girl
Speaker 1: trying to picture him as Spider Man. But uh, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll keep up in mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not trying to make him look young, like.
Speaker 1: No, I got it, well don't yet, like they are
Speaker 1: in that commercion. She don't by the way she looks.
Speaker 2: Why is Grandma moving on me?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Exactly, That's how I read it. I hate that
Speaker 1: commercial so much on streaming or it was for a time.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to picture it. I'll keep an open mind.
Speaker 1: Maybe i'll try to watch it.
Speaker 2: What's it on Amazon Prime?
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime? Spider wir Yes, okay, I dig it. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to picture as not a parody of Spider Man.
Speaker 1: He's always young. I mean, he's young.
Speaker 2: And what's interesting is that they have Peter Parker, you know, right,
Speaker 2: they have a diverse what is he the retired version
Speaker 2: of Peter Parker. No, different character entirely. His name is
Speaker 2: Ben Riley.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, so not Spider Man.
Speaker 2: It is Spider Man, different person mm hmmm. Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: different versions of Spider Man and all these different the
Speaker 2: universe canonically.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, it's a word I been Anyway.
Speaker 2: The cast is very diverse, and like there's black people
Speaker 2: and they're like actually playing black people because you know
Speaker 2: how like sometimes with color blind casting, if you put
Speaker 2: a black person in a role, it's like, Okay, here's
Speaker 2: a role that was for a white person, but we're
Speaker 2: going to stick you in it, and we're going to
Speaker 2: pretend you're not black. They're not they're not doing that
Speaker 2: like good. The black people are black people, so I
Speaker 2: appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, maybe worth that checking out.
Speaker 2: I've only been able to get through like a couple
Speaker 2: of episodes, so I can go back with that a problem.
Speaker 1: What else did we want? Oh, you finally saw a
Speaker 1: Raisin in the Sun?
Speaker 2: Oh ship, that's right. I watched the Rain in the
Speaker 2: Raisin in the Sun for the first time last night.
Speaker 1: I've seen.
Speaker 2: But the original Sidney Potier original it. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 2: it's wonderful. I mean, as I knew it would be.
Speaker 1: Just happened.
Speaker 2: I had only seen parts of the Danny Glover Revival
Speaker 2: on PBS, and I was too young for it. I
Speaker 2: was at the right age now to watch it. I
Speaker 2: can't find that version anywhere.
Speaker 1: And if anybody had a canopy might so.
Speaker 2: They don't love And they also don't have the fully
Speaker 2: Shuarshad Diddy version, which something tells me they might have
Speaker 2: had it at one point and then they were like,
Speaker 2: we don't need this. We got we don't need Diddy.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but that I mean that happened.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm glad. I'm I can check that off of
Speaker 2: my things that I have always wanted to see, but
Speaker 2: never got to for some reason.
Speaker 1: A list, and we'll be performing together. That's been a minute.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yes, we're gonna be performing at the
Speaker 2: end of the month. A friend of ours it's been
Speaker 2: dying to put together some creative opportunities, and so we're
Speaker 2: gonna be doing a piece that is a multi discipline. Basically,
Speaker 2: it's a dinner party and the guest of honor tells
Speaker 2: a story, and there will be music and dance supporting
Speaker 2: the story. And the guest of honor for this dinner party,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be you.
Speaker 1: I heard, Yes, I heard. I can't wait to see
Speaker 1: how it turns out. Yeah, it's fun, it's interesting. I'm intrigued. Well,
Speaker 1: we're going to see how this all bubbles together.
Speaker 2: At some point this week, we're going to have our
Speaker 2: first rehearsal.
Speaker 1: So really, I guess I should have a story writing
Speaker 1: wouldn't hurt fuck? Okay, Well, I've work to do. I
Speaker 1: also have, yeah, some remarks to write. Uh, you're busy, lady,
Speaker 1: I am? Yeah? All good, all good?
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I guess this is the time where
Speaker 2: we should do some podcast business.
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Speaker 2: No, that was a lot, we did that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I gotta go, right ship. Uh huh what
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