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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from the dining room table at East

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<v Speaker 1>Barbary Lane. Welcome to a new episode of Full Circle

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<v Speaker 1>the Podcast. A visit to our home where we squeeze

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<v Speaker 1>a few headlines through our decidedly queer lens and see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. This episode is brought to you by Decanted

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<v Speaker 1>jug Wine, brand new microphones, and a cacophony of rainbows.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Pride Month. Ya.

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<v Speaker 2>I am your host, Charles Tyson Junior, and I'm your.

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<v Speaker 1>Host Martha Madrigal. Welcome to the Full Circle Table.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Babby, Hi, it's been a minute. I know. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we've done several interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>We have done several interviews, and we've been out doing

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff. Yeah, we have not sat down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is the first time we've sat down with

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<v Speaker 2>our new setup.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I mean, well to talk to each.

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<v Speaker 2>Other, talk to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, because we had this. The new setup looks

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<v Speaker 1>all fancy, but we can't be on the same screen

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<v Speaker 1>anymore when we interview people. I know, we have these

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<v Speaker 1>arms and things.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to get creative, but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have to get used to spreading out because

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to get smaller.

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<v Speaker 1>They're fun. Well, I hate it when transfermen spread, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, Okay, coming in hot close.

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<v Speaker 1>Those legs grow. No one needs to see that anyhore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's June seventh, Sunday, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, which means we are a week into Pride.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and we are here in the dining room, not

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<v Speaker 1>out there walking around. We're proud in the I'm proud

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<v Speaker 1>in that. I'm pretty you know. I was talking to well,

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<v Speaker 1>the president of our Peeple like chapter, but a friend,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, I'm I think I'm not doing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the Pride celebrations because I don't have no reason

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<v Speaker 1>to this year, Like I'm not working them for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in Jesus fourteen years. I'm not working Pride,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, other than COVID and so. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>listed all the things on the calendar in June and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, holy crap, you are doing Pride. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, just different things. So yeah, we're out

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<v Speaker 1>and about in June. You just may not see us

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<v Speaker 1>walking around in a sea of rainbows. But we're proud

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<v Speaker 1>here exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>It is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And we were proud last well, not last night, Friday night,

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<v Speaker 1>Friday night at the Equality ball. I lost a day

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday because we just kind of sat and veged.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we did.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Friday. We was the Garden State Equalities Equality Ball,

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<v Speaker 1>yes a lot, which was you know, fabulous fun as

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<v Speaker 1>it always. You got to squad over Spallata. I did, who,

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<v Speaker 1>of course is the cuntiest, Yes, And I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>who I was talking to, so I went. I walked

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<v Speaker 1>over to my friend Ash, who works for Garden State Equality,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were talking to each other, and you knew

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<v Speaker 1>right away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>I have hearing problems in a crowd, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>A drink and so I didn't run a mission.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not register to me, and I wondered why

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't stay with me, because I was like at

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<v Speaker 1>the bar ordering and you're still back there talking to

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<v Speaker 1>this person in in, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>In a fabulous hat and red pants, and I'm like, well, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>that must be important.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when I reconnected with you, you said, well that's Spallata,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like fuck, And he probably said it to

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<v Speaker 1>me and I didn't hear him. So I walked over

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<v Speaker 1>and reintroduced myself, and so I'm sorry, I'm an idiot

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<v Speaker 1>who needed a drink. But yeah, we we got to

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<v Speaker 1>meet Spilata.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, lord, and the two of us had a thing, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, because we were complimenting each other's outfits

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, yes, I'm love it. I had my

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<v Speaker 2>pinch stripe suit and he was like, I'm loving the

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<v Speaker 2>pinstripes and he said, everyone like showed up to show out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just went, well, you know, and gave my

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<v Speaker 2>little hand gesture and he just thought that was the

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<v Speaker 2>best thing. And so that became our thing. Every time

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<v Speaker 2>we saw each other, we just stopped and went, you know, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And then in one of his songs, he

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<v Speaker 2>made a point of going.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I love that, And y'all have been corresponding since.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because the Countiest was a fifteen minute fave a

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<v Speaker 2>bit ago, right, and so I was like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>then you have to hear that. So I sent it

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<v Speaker 2>to him and he was excited. So hopefully Spillata and

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<v Speaker 2>I are going to continue to chit each hat back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I love that quite so. Wonderful time. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful time, wonderful organization. Our friends who worked there,

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<v Speaker 1>we were just talking about this earlier today with Kathy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know when they don't work truly, because they're

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<v Speaker 1>all at Bride and Hasbury Park today. They were all,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, turned out at the ball on Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that you mentioned, I don't think I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 2>any of them standing still longer than four seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for real, for real, hard working folks who don't

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<v Speaker 1>get the credit that they deserve. And Brielle as always

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<v Speaker 1>gave some amazing words.

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<v Speaker 2>That Brielle is. Her podium is just going to get

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<v Speaker 2>bigger and bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>We will have her on as soon as they I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, the board gets off their ass and makes

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<v Speaker 1>her the official, the official executive director of Cliden State Equality.

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<v Speaker 1>It is long overdue and we're all deserved. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think as soon as that happens, and we're not in June,

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<v Speaker 1>because I wouldn't, I am not going to ask her

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<v Speaker 1>to sit down and breathe. I mean well, I am

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask her to sit down bread, but not.

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<v Speaker 2>With us, not during June.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we can. We can chat in julyman, Right, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to see ain't miss behavin. Yes we talked with

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<v Speaker 1>the cast, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we talked with with the cast and the director

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<v Speaker 2>Amina Robinson.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was amazing, yes, and knows Jesse Martin. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>she sent my.

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<v Speaker 2>Regards you need every time that always did I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but yeah. And and Ragier Raj I meant

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<v Speaker 1>I believe I mentioned before, had come over after the

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<v Speaker 1>performance and what a stellar, stellar performance and reminded me

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<v Speaker 1>that we had met when he was Collins. Yes, in

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<v Speaker 1>the Ardent Theater production of Rent where we took the

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<v Speaker 1>folks and we had all the sofas up front, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was amazing. And he just embodied that character so well.

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<v Speaker 1>And and there's a he has a he has an

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<v Speaker 1>essence about him that reminds me of of Jesse Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>And I agree, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes you you fan girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>And we also spoke to Chabrolle Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, yes, that was a fantastic version. And Curtis

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<v Speaker 1>who is the young man who uh had the the

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<v Speaker 1>other male Curtis Harris, Curtis, this child is going to

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<v Speaker 1>go places. Yeah, because Raj was he did the Ken

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<v Speaker 1>Page role. Yes, Curtis did the Andre de Shields role.

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<v Speaker 2>Chabro was the Armilia McQueen role. Right, So three of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was great.

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<v Speaker 2>So that episode is is uh, that's outing about available

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to and I think you should absolutely absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a lot of fun we did that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we listed everything we have been doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha Graham Dance Company, we went and saw them. That

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<v Speaker 1>was your first time seeing them live.

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<v Speaker 2>That was my first time seeing Martha Graham Company live.

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<v Speaker 2>We went because of course Tommy why he'd Evin had

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<v Speaker 2>his world premiere.

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<v Speaker 1>And who you spoke with, yes, and interviewed.

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<v Speaker 2>Him the week before, so it was great to go

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<v Speaker 2>see what a what a showstopper.

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<v Speaker 1>That piece was incredible collaboration between Martha Graham and Philadenko.

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<v Speaker 2>So literally some of the best dancers in the.

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<v Speaker 1>World, absolutely fiercest, fiercest, best, strongest dancers, modern dancers in

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<v Speaker 1>the world together on one stage and man oh it

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<v Speaker 1>was powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>And his whole thing was initially he wanted to do

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<v Speaker 2>a section of just the Graham dancers in a section

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<v Speaker 2>of just the Danko dancers, and then back and forth

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<v Speaker 2>and back and forth. But he changed his mind on

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<v Speaker 2>that and just mixed them together into one company and

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<v Speaker 2>that was that was the move. And I told him

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<v Speaker 2>after the show like that was beautiful. It was one band,

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<v Speaker 2>one sound that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was absolutely you couldn't tell who came from where, just

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<v Speaker 1>fierceness on stage exactly the entire time.

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<v Speaker 2>And the music, yes, dear God, Yes, the sound design.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound design was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And we got to see some uh Martha Graham repertory

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<v Speaker 2>from the mid thirties, including night Journey, which was one

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<v Speaker 2>of her seminal works based on the story of Oedipus. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Felt like I was watching like an old musical or something,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It's very much of its time, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Right which you know, grants preservation. That's that is what

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<v Speaker 2>that is, that is.

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<v Speaker 1>That is but answer. And the gentleman who played out God, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he was sculpted from marble. I love Granet. We watched Ebony,

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<v Speaker 1>I love what.

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<v Speaker 2>We watched these things through different lenses.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a nice way to say it. Yes we do.

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<v Speaker 1>I was enthralled with.

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<v Speaker 2>His movement, yes, but his movement, yes, but uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The seeing the gram dancers do the technique and the

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<v Speaker 2>repertory on stage do what they do, that was spectacular

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<v Speaker 2>for me. And it reminded me of just how strong

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be to be a gram dancer. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>Like several of the movements they did. I was just like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and they look just they're deceptively simple looking, but I

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<v Speaker 2>knew what I was looking at, Like that one like

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<v Speaker 2>rende gehen where they fanned the leg and then put

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<v Speaker 2>it down and then they go into a split, but

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<v Speaker 2>the hands are up on the shoulders. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all better fucking work. I said, what did I say

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<v Speaker 2>to you? Said? I know one thing for sure. Every

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<v Speaker 2>single person on that stage can stop bullets with their stomach.

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<v Speaker 2>This I know. Yes, you throw a dollar bill at

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<v Speaker 2>any of them, you'll get four quarters back.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, yeah, seriously, it's such powerful dancers.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of those quarters will be two dimes in

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<v Speaker 2>a nickel bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. Great to see old friends, you know, which

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<v Speaker 1>happens every time, you know, because Philadelphia's dance community is

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<v Speaker 1>small but mighty, small but mighty and uh yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>And Tommy, Tommy Stars has been on the rise. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's that that put him in a different place because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, after we you know, fanned over him, uh

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<v Speaker 2>and we were leaving, I walked away just as someone

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<v Speaker 1>of fire speak speak yes and if you ever get

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<v Speaker 2>Dance dynasty that is but accurate. Actually yeah, from Daddy.

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<v Speaker 1>On down, Daddy on down. Yeah, and Mama is right

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<v Speaker 1>there too with everyone. Yeah. So yeah, Will Burdon was

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<v Speaker 2>And Will has been literally the poster child for Danko

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<v Speaker 1>That's Will. Yeah. And it was great to tell him

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<v Speaker 1>And I would say that that is a a thread

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<v Speaker 1>that runs through the family. Humility and genuine, genuine just decency, kindness,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly confidence in their ability, but just such sweet sweet men.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because they're all doing what they what they love

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, and it shows and.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know if I've met her or if

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<v Speaker 1>I've met her. I haven't seen her dance. You probably have.

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<v Speaker 2>You have probably seen her, but you probably haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>her dance. She's still working her way up, but she's

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<v Speaker 2>they're all growing up to be amazing. The gene pool

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<v Speaker 2>in that family, they're like Russian dolls.

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<v Speaker 1>They kind of are. That's a burden that, Oh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a burden. Yeah, you can tell. They all look like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Deirdre was in that mix, but they do

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<v Speaker 2>The only one who doesn't look exactly like the rest

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<v Speaker 2>two seconds, he's a Burden like there it is.

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<v Speaker 1>We love them, we love whole of them. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>dance steynasty, I mean, you know, in terms of tap dance,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Burden in Philadelphia's synonymous you.

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<v Speaker 1>We have one of his paintings.

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<v Speaker 1>He was tap dancing some incredible art. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if he's still doing it, but we managed to get

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<v Speaker 1>one of his beautiful pieces. And in our whole way, y,

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<v Speaker 2>That we could not afford.

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<v Speaker 1>No chu, nope, nope, nope, nope. It is Pride twenty

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<v Speaker 2>It is, and everyone's getting into the festivities.

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<v Speaker 1>and Friday. Didn't go to that either. I ran my

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday night group and Friday we were at the Equality Ball.

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<v Speaker 1>So and I my gown. Mm hm, I love that gown.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked. I look good. I mean you look good

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<v Speaker 1>to look Yes you did, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>We were very well put together.

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<v Speaker 1>I dare say, yes, yes I did. You laced me

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<v Speaker 1>in had a catechor set back. We ran into our

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<v Speaker 1>friend at wait after Everything at what one in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning or whatever time? Oh yeah, back from Asbury Park,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like spin and almost She's like bitch, thank you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun. Yes, it's fun to go to get dressed

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<v Speaker 1>up and do things and it is and be among amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>The movers and the shakers of it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I had done a panel with a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>the moderator, Thank you, Alonso. I believe we had a

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<v Speaker 1>really nice conversation on Friday night about that panel. And

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<v Speaker 1>was invited to go and see and be part of

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<v Speaker 1>some of it. So I'm going to do that for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>The spaghetti dinners that we started here in little South

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<v Speaker 1>Jersey are spreading, and just the simple idea of building

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<v Speaker 1>community in that way without agenda is spreading. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we know that we're even in Red States at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>I love hops. They're getting themselves together and hanging out,

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<v Speaker 1>and those natural relationships that come of that are incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>They're incredible, and you know, I see it all the

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<v Speaker 1>time every day. The mutual aid that comes out of

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<v Speaker 1>is it's fierce. It's fun to sit and watch. I

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Yeah, but I'm like, that's my kid,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my kid. And they're all out there. They are

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<v Speaker 1>doing the things, they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>The things, moving and shaking it there. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love it. Yeah. Just just being a good

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<v Speaker 1>is subversion.

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<v Speaker 2>In this world, and that is why we do what

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<v Speaker 1>It's true. It's true. Why did you send me over

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<v Speaker 1>a Hello? Fresh ad?

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<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 1>What is this? Is their pride official statement?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so several of the you know how the corporations,

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<v Speaker 2>they all dip their toe into being allies for the

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<v Speaker 2>month June. I do, and several of them continue on

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<v Speaker 2>July first, some of them do. Yeah, And we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about a few more of them when we get further

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Fresh. This is from their Instagram. It says official statement.

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<v Speaker 2>We know eating isn't always a top priority this month.

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<v Speaker 2>we have an extensive lineup of high fiber recipes available

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Pride.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So Hello Fresh supports bottoming.

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<v Speaker 1>Evidently, I'm not sure what to make of that, but hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, they care enough to understand the ins and outs,

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<v Speaker 2>as it were, of bottoming, well enough to make a

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<v Speaker 1>No see, I think next level would have been for

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who are constipated over Pride months.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have an extensive lineup FI for recipes available

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<v Speaker 1>to perhaps adjust your attitude. So it could work both ways,

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm saying. Yeah, but yeah, fine, good love.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of clever shut out. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of clever like comeback stuff, and Hunter Biden has found

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<v Speaker 1>Look at some of the stuff that's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh my god, I know, say it at you.

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<v Speaker 1>I am I love it. I love it. Well. Jake

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<v Speaker 1>Tapper tried to come for his mother and he's not

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<v Speaker 1>having it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what you say about my mama. Nope, nope, nope,

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<v Speaker 2>nope not today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah No, don't don't come for doctor Jill. Don't try it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't know. So I was Entrinton on Thursday to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the Senate vote on S Twenty two sixty, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the healthcare bills. So many have been working to

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<v Speaker 1>come into law. So this is the healthcare executive orders

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<v Speaker 1>that Phil Murphy put in place, and we held our

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<v Speaker 1>governor's office. But a lot of folks have done a

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<v Speaker 1>important and essentially what this protects is bodily autonomy. It

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<v Speaker 1>is reproductive healthcare. It is not just gender affirming healthcare.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's broader than that. It protects our New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>practitioners from outside interference, which the language has been worked

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<v Speaker 1>with all the way up until the final vote, and

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<v Speaker 1>they may change a word or two before June eleventh

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<v Speaker 1>when the Assembly votes. It did pass the Senate twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three to twelve along party lines for we're absent and

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<v Speaker 1>Assembly on June eleventh. I have the distinct honor of

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<v Speaker 1>MCing the rally that will happen outside of our state

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<v Speaker 1>capital and Trenton, and you know, aurage all of our folks,

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<v Speaker 1>especially here in Jersey, to be there to stand in solidarity,

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<v Speaker 1>to witness this historic legislation. It's important. New Jersey is not,

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<v Speaker 1>sadly the first date to put these protections in place,

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<v Speaker 1>We are protecting it by law in the state of

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey. It's about time and it is, as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>pride activities. You Yeah, so that'll be Thursday. Hopefully this

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<v Speaker 1>I love that it's coming up in June. Why not?

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<v Speaker 1>some have worked for years. Yes, and all of them

426
00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:30.039
<v Speaker 1>deserve just to celebrate themselves. The work is important. And

427
00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:32.640
<v Speaker 1>we're still handing out postcards and having folks you know,

428
00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:38.079
<v Speaker 1>contact Yes, their their their center and uh urge them

429
00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:42.799
<v Speaker 1>to do this right thing exactly. Yeah, that's us right,

430
00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:48.599
<v Speaker 1>anything else, I think that's the US stuff. Yeah. All

431
00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:57.079
<v Speaker 1>we we lost a great Philadelphia true legend on June first.

432
00:24:58.039 --> 00:25:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, Dido van Regersberg passed away on June.

433
00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:11.960
<v Speaker 1>First, age of fifties. Yeah, known to many, many, many fans,

434
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.480
<v Speaker 1>certainly up and down the East Coast and really around

435
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:19.119
<v Speaker 1>the world. As Martha Graham cracker Geto we interviewed, Dido

436
00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>was one of the founding members of Pig Iron Theater Company.

437
00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Such a hand in Philadelphia theater and cap baret and

438
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:31.759
<v Speaker 1>performance overall.

439
00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just a shining light.

440
00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. We are still We're still seeing the outpouring just

441
00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>from everywhere. National queer media has picked it up.

442
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:46.400
<v Speaker 2>I love that.

443
00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:48.359
<v Speaker 1>I do too, you know, I think we saw it

444
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:50.920
<v Speaker 1>first in The Advocate and them, and you know it's

445
00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>really been the Pink News. Yeah, I'm sure, ol GBT

446
00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Nation probably has published something since then.

447
00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:02.519
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and that was the the thing, because you know,

448
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:07.119
<v Speaker 2>we had our immediate reaction, and I was going through it.

449
00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:11.559
<v Speaker 2>I was gutting, and because of the fact that he

450
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:15.039
<v Speaker 2>was so well known and well loved, it's like you

451
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:21.640
<v Speaker 2>literally couldn't escape the news because everybody, everybody.

452
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:25.680
<v Speaker 1>His dear friend Victor Fiorello, who writes for Philadelphia Magazine

453
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:30.519
<v Speaker 1>and was his piano player for years, posted first. Yeah,

454
00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:34.319
<v Speaker 1>the news broke the news. Yeah. We were in a

455
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:36.920
<v Speaker 1>parking lot somewhere we had stopped to do We were

456
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>out running errands, and I happened to look at my

457
00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>phone and I went, oh my god, Oh my god.

458
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>So he had actually been diagnosed with two different kinds

459
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:50.160
<v Speaker 1>of cancer, one of them leukemia. There was I believe

460
00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>a stem cell transplant, bonemeer stem cell bone that did

461
00:26:55.960 --> 00:27:02.480
<v Speaker 1>not was ultimately I think rejected. What happened. Yeah, since

462
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:05.559
<v Speaker 1>since January things have not been good. We found out

463
00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>later we didn't really know. It was last June when

464
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>we interviewed Dto on the show and we re released

465
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:13.559
<v Speaker 1>that in honor.

466
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Of I love for him.

467
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so that was just re released. He was

468
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a co founder of pig Iron Theater Company. We recently

469
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:25.079
<v Speaker 1>talked to them and mentioned him, yes there, but didn't

470
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:30.599
<v Speaker 1>get into any conversation. Just such a talent, yeah, Barrymore

471
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:36.519
<v Speaker 1>Award winner, yep, all around lovely, lovely person, I mean, a.

472
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:41.839
<v Speaker 2>Pew Fellow, like all of the things he rightly earned.

473
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Just so I can remember the first time I saw

474
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:52.279
<v Speaker 2>Martha Graham Cracker. I was at a fundraiser and it

475
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:56.039
<v Speaker 2>was in this big club and Martha comes down this

476
00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:02.279
<v Speaker 2>stairwell dressed in this like white fringy fembot thing with

477
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:05.920
<v Speaker 2>a curly blond wig, singing, coming down the steps, walking

478
00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>through the club, making her way up onto the stage,

479
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.400
<v Speaker 2>and I was just like, Okay, I get it, I

480
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:11.839
<v Speaker 2>get it.

481
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yep, yep, yep. You couldn't not smile and

482
00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:22.799
<v Speaker 1>have a wonderful time during that show, you know. It

483
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:27.759
<v Speaker 1>was just so filled with spontaneity and joy and and ornery.

484
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:32.599
<v Speaker 1>M m yeah. After it's this is this is one

485
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>of those really big losses.

486
00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And it's a testament to uh Dido's the effect

487
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:46.680
<v Speaker 2>that he had on the arts community, because not just individuals,

488
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:52.839
<v Speaker 2>but UH companies that he worked with, the Wilmouth Theater,

489
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:58.200
<v Speaker 2>the Pew Charitable Trust, like all the organizations like made

490
00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:03.000
<v Speaker 2>it made a point of saying something in honor of

491
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.200
<v Speaker 2>his memory and legacy.

492
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were at Letage in queen villete right on

493
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>South Street.

494
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:10.119
<v Speaker 2>That was one of the hottest tickets in town for years.

495
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Fifteen years. Yeah, yep, yep, fifteen years. And COVID they

496
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>were doing some virtual work during COVID. His leukemia diagnosis

497
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>went public in twenty twenty two. He did bring the

498
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:28.519
<v Speaker 1>Cabaret back to the stage in twenty twenty four and

499
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>performed a twentieth anniversary show at the Miller Theater last year.

500
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:35.240
<v Speaker 2>Yep. And that was a huge deal that he was

501
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:37.799
<v Speaker 2>back in the saddle. Yep.

502
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's hard.

503
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:40.759
<v Speaker 2>It is.

504
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>This is hard for an awful lot of people, and

505
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:48.839
<v Speaker 1>our hearts go out to all of them because we've

506
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>lost a huge presence. And you know, I had remarked,

507
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia has now lost two gay legends too close together.

508
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:01.559
<v Speaker 1>One Pierre Robert Ye who did just have a street

509
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:07.559
<v Speaker 1>aptly behind you are named after him, and and I'm

510
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>sure there will be things happening for Dido as well.

511
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:14.359
<v Speaker 1>But I said, I think it's important not to gloss

512
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>over the fact that these were gay Philadelphians that you know,

513
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the world lost. They had you know, mass appeal obviously,

514
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:27.119
<v Speaker 1>well beyond just the queer community. And I had said,

515
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:29.519
<v Speaker 1>especially in Pierre's case, I wonder how many of these

516
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>rabid fans know that he was gay, right, because it

517
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:36.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a secret. You know, it was just not germane

518
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>on the rock and roll radio show he hosted, right,

519
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:44.359
<v Speaker 1>but you know, his personal life and the causes that

520
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>he championed. I mean we worked with him at the

521
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:50.079
<v Speaker 1>Age Walk every year. Yeah, it was was not a

522
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>secret and saw him way many three a ms at

523
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:58.079
<v Speaker 1>the Midtown three I Call you day when everything closed.

524
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:04.079
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and Dido also unapologetically queer and fabulous and

525
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:06.799
<v Speaker 1>wonderful and yeah.

526
00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Furst thing. We were able to see him in wash room, right,

527
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.279
<v Speaker 2>which is where the interview came from, in anticipation of

528
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:15.799
<v Speaker 2>seeing that.

529
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, big loss, Yes, big loss for all of us.

530
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Also since we last talked.

531
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we lost people Bryson as well. Yeah. People Bryson

532
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:35.079
<v Speaker 2>was like that that voice probably most famous mainstream wise

533
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>for his duet with Regina.

534
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Bell, Right, Okay, I was you know, he's another one

535
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>of those artists where when you start looking at his catalog,

536
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:49.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh my god, that was him, that was him,

537
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:50.519
<v Speaker 1>that was that was him.

538
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. His famous duet with ROBERTA. Fleck was Tonight

539
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I Celebrated Love.

540
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you, Yes, yep, yep, tonight I Celebrate My Love.

541
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Made it to number four on the US Adult Contemporary

542
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Troy in nineteen eighty.

543
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Three, and then of course Beauty and the Beast he

544
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:11.960
<v Speaker 2>dueted with Celine Dion.

545
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:16.119
<v Speaker 1>He reached number one in eighty four with if ever

546
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:17.519
<v Speaker 1>You're in My Arms Again?

547
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that was the jam. Peter Bryson was the man.

548
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

549
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.160
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people are on the planet because

550
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>their parents listened to his music one night.

551
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Right right. He and Luther Vandros are probably responsible for

552
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>a percentage of the population. Yep, I think so, yeah,

553
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I think so. A Whole New World reached number one

554
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>as well and knocked I Will Always Love You off

555
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:56.559
<v Speaker 1>as number one after a fourteen week run. Yeah yeah, impressive,

556
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:57.559
<v Speaker 1>impressive stuff.

557
00:32:57.720 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 2>You could not get away from that damn duet.

558
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:00.799
<v Speaker 1>I know.

559
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:06.880
<v Speaker 2>It was like so in fact, that was our fucking

560
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:08.319
<v Speaker 2>junior prom theme.

561
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I think probably whole New World problem. Yeah yeah. He

562
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>once told the Philadelphia Tribune, I'm trying to show men

563
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>that it's okay to be sensitive and sensual instead of

564
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:26.279
<v Speaker 1>feeling like they have to be macho. Yeah.

565
00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:31.559
<v Speaker 2>And and he had a little cameo moment on The

566
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Golden Girls.

567
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Did he? Oh? Okay?

568
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Sophia and Dorothy were at Disney Disneyland or Disney World,

569
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:46.240
<v Speaker 2>one of the disneys, and Sophia was trying to escape

570
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Dorothy because Dorothy was being all emotional and clingy. So

571
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.079
<v Speaker 2>she made her way into this bar and Pebo Bryson

572
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.519
<v Speaker 2>was the piano player, and she was like, play that

573
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:57.839
<v Speaker 2>song again. I'm like, I just played it. You played

574
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.039
<v Speaker 2>it for her, you can play it for me. And

575
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:01.680
<v Speaker 2>then he's saying it's a small world after all.

576
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Okay. He is survived by his wife Tanya, their

577
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:13.079
<v Speaker 1>son Robert, also a daughter Linda, and three grandchildren. Rest

578
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:17.239
<v Speaker 1>in power. Indeed, what else am I? God?

579
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:21.920
<v Speaker 2>And uh? This is from a couple of days ago

580
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Anthony had died.

581
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we just were watching Ted Lasso. Are we going

582
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.360
<v Speaker 1>to talk about that? And when we popped the culture?

583
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I did not realize that was him and Ted Lasso. Yes, yes,

584
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:37.679
<v Speaker 2>he played Rupert.

585
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:44.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the divorced, Yes, which explains how fierce why he

586
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>was so fierce, especially with the trench coat and the

587
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>flowing of it all, with the evil villain walk, that made.

588
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Some much sense. So you know him from what Buddy

589
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:56.599
<v Speaker 2>the Vampire Slayer. He played Giles, who was Buffy's like

590
00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 2>mentor and and and you know, gave her all the

591
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>information that she needed to do her missions.

592
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, he found international fameous Rupert Giles in the

593
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:15.599
<v Speaker 1>hit supernatural teen show Buffy in the late nineteen nineties. Yes,

594
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:23.199
<v Speaker 1>he passed from complications due to pneumonia. Yeah, but we

595
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:27.079
<v Speaker 1>recently discovered Ted Lasso and we'll talk about that later.

596
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 1>But yes, loved it, loved his role.

597
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:31.639
<v Speaker 2>That's so crazy that I did not know that that

598
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 2>was him.

599
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I did. I mean, I didn't. I wasn't a Buffy fan.

600
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I was busy in the nineties. I was busy, So

601
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. It wasn't in one of my things.

602
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Because that character is so fucking evil that it never

603
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:47.079
<v Speaker 2>occurred to me that he was played by someone I

604
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:49.880
<v Speaker 2>liked that.

605
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, from the late eighties through you know, the mid

606
00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:59.800
<v Speaker 1>two thousands. It's kind of a blur there, especially through

607
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:03.559
<v Speaker 1>the nineties, because that's fair. Two children, you were busy.

608
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I was busy, Yes, I was busy raising kids and

609
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 1>so and neither of them were old enough to have

610
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>been watching Buffy when it was out, when it was popular.

611
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was in college.

612
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:18.599
<v Speaker 1>Right.

613
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:22.559
<v Speaker 2>That was Lisa and I's little guilty pleasure. There you go,

614
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 2>minus the guilt.

615
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So that right, that was a couple of days ago.

616
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Anthony had May he rest in peace, and we're gonna

617
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:34.199
<v Speaker 1>probably do we want to take a little break. Yeah,

618
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:36.679
<v Speaker 1>let's do that, and then we're going to come back

619
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 1>with good news.

620
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:39.360
<v Speaker 2>We have some we do.

621
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:52.039
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back, and we're back. Qu're back. So

622
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>we got good news. Uh So, Colorado Governor Jared Polus

623
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:02.639
<v Speaker 1>kicked off Pride Month by signing a new conversion therapy law. Yes,

624
00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:07.119
<v Speaker 1>as we know, since last we talked, I think the

625
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court is fucking around with that. He signed a

626
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>new law, you know, and I have talked about this

627
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:17.719
<v Speaker 1>before a nauseum. You know, conversion therapy all the bands

628
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:24.760
<v Speaker 1>and we need them control you know, legitimate licensed therapy, right,

629
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 1>which is not exactly where most conversion therapy is happening. Anyway,

630
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>it's happening out of the churches right by certainly unlicensed individuals,

631
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and they were pretty much unaffected anyway. What he did

632
00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:46.199
<v Speaker 1>post to social media after he signed this bill was,

633
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>conversion therapy can be harmful, traumatizes kids, and does a

634
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>scam to waste people's hard earned money. They're here to

635
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:56.800
<v Speaker 1>kick off pride months. I signed a new law that

636
00:37:56.920 --> 00:38:02.679
<v Speaker 1>provides Colorado's who have been subject to this dehumanizing treatment

637
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>with the tools to heal and move on to live strong,

638
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:10.760
<v Speaker 1>healthy and authentic lives. I also took action to ensure

639
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 1>that no taxpayer funds are wasted on these scams.

640
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<v Speaker 2>Ha.

641
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<v Speaker 1>The bill, which is called the Civil Actions for Conversion

642
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Therapy Survivors Act, would allow conversion therapy survivors to sue

643
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>therapists for damages if they tried to change their sexual

644
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>orientation or gender identity. That this is an end run

645
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:38.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, around them trying to say that

646
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:42.880
<v Speaker 1>we can't have laws to prevent it. The hell yeah, exactly.

647
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:47.599
<v Speaker 1>I hope in my lifetime I see a Supreme Court

648
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:50.679
<v Speaker 1>that isn't primarily bought and fucking paid for.

649
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Right because they don't make sense anymore. Anyway.

650
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:59.039
<v Speaker 1>It defines the bill defines conversion therapy as treatment provided

651
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:03.360
<v Speaker 1>by a license again mental health professional with the predetermined

652
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:08.559
<v Speaker 1>outcome of changing someone's gender identity or sexual orientation. This

653
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:12.199
<v Speaker 1>effectively keeps the bill from applying to members of the

654
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:17.199
<v Speaker 1>clergy or layman ministry. Most conversion therapy in the US

655
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:21.280
<v Speaker 1>is performed by religious organizations and not licensed therapists, and

656
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:25.679
<v Speaker 1>it creates an exemption for discussions of LGBTQ plus identities

657
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:28.199
<v Speaker 1>that come up in therapy, which is a matter of

658
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>contention in a recent Supreme Court case. You know what

659
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.760
<v Speaker 1>it does do, at least in Colorado, is make sure

660
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>any therapists who were so inclined to return to that

661
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:49.119
<v Speaker 1>type of therapy, which you know is death affirming, can

662
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>be sued and good good, they shouldn't have a license

663
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:53.639
<v Speaker 1>and do that.

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<v Speaker 2>State Rep. Alex Valdez, who is also the bill's sponsor

665
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.159
<v Speaker 2>in the state House, said this laws for all of

666
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:05.800
<v Speaker 2>the LGBTQ Colorado's who were told something about them was

667
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.599
<v Speaker 2>wrong because of who they were or who they loved.

668
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:13.039
<v Speaker 2>With the recent US Supreme Court ruling against Colorado's conversion

669
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<v Speaker 2>therapy ban, we are committed to offering survivors of this

670
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:19.800
<v Speaker 2>harmful practice the protections they deserve.

671
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Supreme Court, so just a little bit. They

672
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<v Speaker 1>said that disorder is a reaction to the recent Supreme

673
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:34.639
<v Speaker 1>Court ruling against Colorado's conversion therapy ban, which was passed

674
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<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteen, never enforced, by the way, this is

675
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:41.880
<v Speaker 1>all such bullshit anyway. The ban on conversion therapy, while

676
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:47.639
<v Speaker 1>never enforced in the state, of course, a Christian therapist sued,

677
00:40:48.559 --> 00:40:51.000
<v Speaker 1>saying that it violated her freedom of speech.

678
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Bitch.

679
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>She argued that it would ban her from even discussing

680
00:40:56.239 --> 00:41:00.760
<v Speaker 1>LGBTQ plus identities with her clients, even though the state

681
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>said repeatedly it would not.

682
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Right. Yeah, no, if the only thing you have to

683
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:10.079
<v Speaker 2>say right is it's wrong, and it should be.

684
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:13.039
<v Speaker 1>But of course it was a Christian right, of course,

685
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 1>and what the court ultimately ruled. They ruled against the

686
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Speaker 1>ban in Chiles v. Salazar, saying it violates the therapist's

687
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:25.039
<v Speaker 1>First Amendment rights. Bullshit, and sent the case back to

688
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:27.840
<v Speaker 1>a lower court to reevaluate the law under a higher

689
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:33.280
<v Speaker 1>legal standard. Mm hmm. Yeah. Experts believe this means that

690
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the twenty nineteen conversion therapy ban and bands like it

691
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.559
<v Speaker 1>that have been passed in twenty six other states and

692
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:44.199
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of municipalities will likely eventually be overturned by courts.

693
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 1>What the fuck? What are you talking about? First Amendment rights?

694
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:51.639
<v Speaker 1>This a therapist, right, what are you talking about?

695
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.360
<v Speaker 2>No, they just like to say shit. Whenever they don't

696
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:57.960
<v Speaker 2>get their way, they pull out the First Amendment like that.

697
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.039
<v Speaker 2>If the only thing you have to say how LGBTQ

698
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:05.679
<v Speaker 2>identities in your practice is that it's wrong it needs

699
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:09.039
<v Speaker 2>to be changed, then yes, you are. You can't do that.

700
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine the belly laughter that comes out of

701
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:19.159
<v Speaker 1>these billionaires that use these stupid fucking Christians as puppets constantly.

702
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Because it always works.

703
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Seriously, Yeah, yeah, here goes to on a hypothetical. This

704
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>is how they waste the court's time. This is how

705
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:31.760
<v Speaker 1>they waste tax payer money. Yep. Can you imagine how

706
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:36.800
<v Speaker 1>they sit around and laugh hysterically they must when we

707
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:38.840
<v Speaker 1>say eat the rich, it doesn't what doesn't mean all

708
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:41.599
<v Speaker 1>of them, It just means another one or two. The

709
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:44.800
<v Speaker 1>rest will get the memo tax them.

710
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Just look at them in the eye and lick your lips,

711
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:50.320
<v Speaker 2>and lick your lips, suck on your fingertips.

712
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, this was a creative answer and you know, I

713
00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:00.360
<v Speaker 1>hope more states do it again. These bands are about out,

714
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:05.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, licensed therapists to begin with. The only I

715
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:08.599
<v Speaker 1>think only New Zealand and maybe Canada went so far

716
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:10.840
<v Speaker 1>as to ban it in terms of religion, and they

717
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:13.719
<v Speaker 1>should it should be right, it absolutely should be. They're

718
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:19.239
<v Speaker 1>making money on misery that they manufacture, that they create,

719
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>by the lies they tell about queer and trans people,

720
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>and the parents that they infect with this nonsense, and

721
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the god that they have to sell.

722
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:31.840
<v Speaker 2>That's what this all is.

723
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:35.320
<v Speaker 1>It's a fucking game that kills our people all the time.

724
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:37.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, I had my own little version of it

725
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 1>and it was disgusting and it leaves scars truly period.

726
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, it feeds on the self loathing that the

727
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.920
<v Speaker 1>church helps create in the first goddamn place, right.

728
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.559
<v Speaker 2>The venomous snake eating its own tail.

729
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:55.079
<v Speaker 1>But we're in good news. So that is good news.

730
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>That is good news, and I and I hope that it,

731
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, sets forth a model. This isn't oh yeah,

732
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:08.440
<v Speaker 1>but licensed therapists have no business, no business whatsoever, peddling

733
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>the idea that you can cure yourself of something that

734
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:15.719
<v Speaker 1>is not an affliction. It is a kin to tying

735
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:18.159
<v Speaker 1>your left hand behind your back because you're left handed.

736
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:22.360
<v Speaker 1>It's just as stupid, or I don't know, cutting out

737
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>your irises because you have blue eyes. It's that dumb show.

738
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:29.199
<v Speaker 2>This is, you know, don't give nobody no idea.

739
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Seriously, Sesame Street, Yes we're in God damn. It posted

740
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:41.079
<v Speaker 1>a sweet message of love for Pride Months. The headline

741
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:45.199
<v Speaker 1>even says que the backlash. Yes, they feel triggered over

742
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Sesame Street on a normal day.

743
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:51.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, And it's the you know, it's the post

744
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:54.480
<v Speaker 2>that I've I've shared on my own social media repeatedly.

745
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:58.199
<v Speaker 2>It's like stacks of the fur.

746
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Isn't this the corners back in twenty nineteen that they

747
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>first did this.

748
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:06.119
<v Speaker 2>No, probably because that's how long I've been making that.

749
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Most I know. It was shared again for this Pride month. Yes,

750
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.159
<v Speaker 1>the sacks of different color furs and a rebow.

751
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

752
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Happy Pride Months from Sesame Street. Join us in

753
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:24.199
<v Speaker 1>celebrating and uplifting the LGBTQA plus members of our community.

754
00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

755
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:30.639
<v Speaker 1>So it was retexted apparently, and there was a close

756
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:35.079
<v Speaker 1>up photo of the fur stripes of the rainbow and

757
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:38.599
<v Speaker 1>it goes black, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, yep,

758
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:44.639
<v Speaker 1>and violet love that and of course, of course lips

759
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:47.199
<v Speaker 1>of TikTok of course.

760
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:49.599
<v Speaker 2>Has a big oh.

761
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I know she's been trying to explode herself. I wish

762
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:57.199
<v Speaker 1>she'd go ahead and do that. Just let it fly, baby.

763
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:00.840
<v Speaker 1>You know she said, this is absolutely disgusting. Isn't this

764
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:04.159
<v Speaker 1>a show for kids? Uh? Huh? Why aren't you guys

765
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:09.559
<v Speaker 1>pushing this? Why are you guys pushing this onto children? Bitch,

766
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:13.360
<v Speaker 1>people exist, Sesame Street is grooming your kids. This is

767
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:15.440
<v Speaker 1>absolutely just God, why don't you fuck up them?

768
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:18.760
<v Speaker 2>You know that thing where if you say a word

769
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:21.599
<v Speaker 2>or times, it just stops having a meeting.

770
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and turning points. This is literally a showman for

771
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:27.840
<v Speaker 1>young children. Yes it is, Yes it is, and some

772
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>of them are going to grow up to find out

773
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:33.960
<v Speaker 1>that they are queer or trans yep, and remember that

774
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:37.360
<v Speaker 1>they were affirmed by Sesame Street and not the hateful

775
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:41.199
<v Speaker 1>people that you are and that you you are grooming

776
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:42.519
<v Speaker 1>ding ding a deestination.

777
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.519
<v Speaker 2>I would much rather grow up a young queer child

778
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:47.519
<v Speaker 2>knowing that Cookie Monster has my back.

779
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Bitch, I know, I love it. Keep going, Sesame Street,

780
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:58.199
<v Speaker 1>keep doing it. Yeah, yeah, I think it's fabulous.

781
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:01.679
<v Speaker 2>Sesame Street has always been a pinnacle of progressive thought.

782
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:06.039
<v Speaker 1>They have, they have, and good on them.

783
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I saw black people on Sesame Street before I saw

784
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:12.440
<v Speaker 2>manywhere else. Thank you, yeah, please, and thank you.

785
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.480
<v Speaker 1>It was always diverse. It was always just about values

786
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:16.719
<v Speaker 1>that we should all share.

787
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:19.679
<v Speaker 2>I learned Spanish one, exactly.

788
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.360
<v Speaker 1>The fact that there are Spanish people, you know, in

789
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the world, and they speak a different language and in

790
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>our nation, you know.

791
00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I learned about as l right, right, these are.

792
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:35.760
<v Speaker 1>What It boggles the mind that they have a problem with.

793
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:38.079
<v Speaker 2>These are children.

794
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:42.039
<v Speaker 1>You want to fuck them, but you don't want them

795
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:46.639
<v Speaker 1>to know about gay people, right your side? Fox them

796
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:49.920
<v Speaker 1>hides it. And we still haven't seen all those files,

797
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:55.159
<v Speaker 1>right well, and you want to all this false outrage.

798
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm so tired of it.

799
00:47:56.559 --> 00:47:59.519
<v Speaker 2>But you know who's not in those files, Grover, Grover.

800
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Elmo.

801
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:06.559
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, but either Burt nor Ornie right exactly.

802
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:11.159
<v Speaker 1>It was very sweet, It was very sweet. These people

803
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:14.880
<v Speaker 1>are ridiculous. They keep I just I'm waiting, I really

804
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:18.119
<v Speaker 1>am for these tides to turn, and I have to

805
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:23.000
<v Speaker 1>believe that they will. I live in hope and that

806
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:28.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, collectively, we look around and realize that all

807
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>of this manufactured bullshit is hurting us. It's hurting us

808
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:35.559
<v Speaker 1>all not making us stronger, you know. Taking us to

809
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:40.199
<v Speaker 1>war is not helping us, you know. And now the

810
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:42.920
<v Speaker 1>families that can ill afford it the most are paying

811
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:47.760
<v Speaker 1>higher prices, even higher prices for food, and ridiculously high

812
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.360
<v Speaker 1>prices for fuel, you know, and in a nation that

813
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:55.440
<v Speaker 1>currently wants to go backwards in terms of the technology

814
00:48:55.480 --> 00:48:58.880
<v Speaker 1>that would get us away from foreign oil. Because all

815
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:01.719
<v Speaker 1>they're worried about are they're wallets in front of them.

816
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:04.199
<v Speaker 1>How do they not think about their own grandchildren? That's

817
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:04.880
<v Speaker 1>what I don't get.

818
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll never because their grandparents didn't give a fuck about them,

819
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:10.960
<v Speaker 2>so they have no basis of comparison.

820
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:13.199
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they won't. They've given enough of a fuck to

821
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:17.719
<v Speaker 1>leave them rich, many of them. And that's the problem

822
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:22.159
<v Speaker 1>with wealth that you inherit and anywhere. Yeah, we've got

823
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:25.800
<v Speaker 1>these these idiots walking around with more money than God

824
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:28.960
<v Speaker 1>ever intended and they've never actually built a damn thing,

825
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.679
<v Speaker 1>more money than has never built or thought of that

826
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:34.920
<v Speaker 1>And he bought it, he bought it. It was just

827
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.239
<v Speaker 1>reading an article where he bought Twitter just because of

828
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.320
<v Speaker 1>his daughter. I'm like, you know what he probably did.

829
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:45.639
<v Speaker 1>It's that shallow and ridiculous. They're so fragile. We're in

830
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:51.400
<v Speaker 1>good news, good news that Sesame Street don't give a

831
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 1>fuck and thank you for the love continuing, and this

832
00:49:56.119 --> 00:50:00.519
<v Speaker 1>is good news. The murder trial for O'sha simply finally

833
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:04.480
<v Speaker 1>happened in New York City, and this jury is deliberating

834
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:09.239
<v Speaker 1>as we speak. Yes, the man accused of killing him.

835
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:12.920
<v Speaker 1>They computed their first deliberations. I want to say on

836
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<v Speaker 1>June third, but as of this morning, this is the

837
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<v Speaker 1>last news article I can find. Yes, the trial is

838
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:28.079
<v Speaker 1>of Dmitry Popov, who fatally stabbed O'sha outside a Midwood

839
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:30.519
<v Speaker 1>gas station in twenty twenty three.

840
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we talked about that on this show when it happened,

841
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:39.159
<v Speaker 3>and I am glad that the trial is underway and

842
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:42.480
<v Speaker 3>we're hopefully going to get some justice.

843
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, jurors did ask some questions about the charges in

844
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<v Speaker 1>the case. There are the judge. We read the definitions

845
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<v Speaker 1>for all nine counts against him, including second degree murder

846
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:57.639
<v Speaker 1>as a hate crime and manslaughter as a hate crime.

847
00:50:57.679 --> 00:50:59.840
<v Speaker 1>And there's no question in my mind that this was

848
00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:02.679
<v Speaker 1>a hate crime. But this little bit, because they never

849
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:07.280
<v Speaker 1>take responsibility for what they do when there are consequences.

850
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:09.639
<v Speaker 1>He was seventeen at the time of the stabbing, is

851
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:14.239
<v Speaker 1>now twenty. Sad appeared in court, handcuffed and wearing a

852
00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:17.880
<v Speaker 1>white button down shirt. Family members sat behind him. Please,

853
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:21.440
<v Speaker 1>you weren't behind him when you needed to be that far. Oh,

854
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 1>let's see, Sibley and a group of friends were dancing.

855
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:27.679
<v Speaker 2>Yep, they were vogue and they were cutting up and

856
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:29.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was fierce.

857
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.320
<v Speaker 1>And pop up of course, and his friends began shouting

858
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:38.280
<v Speaker 1>homophobic and racist slurs and he stabbed him ohay, in

859
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:41.599
<v Speaker 1>the chest with a knife. Yeah, they're trying to say

860
00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:45.079
<v Speaker 1>he acted in self defense. That's what his defense terms

861
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:47.960
<v Speaker 1>or sing. Yeah, I was so afraid of these faggots

862
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:50.559
<v Speaker 1>who were dancing in the street that I had to

863
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:53.639
<v Speaker 1>defend myself. Yes, what were they going to do? Baby?

864
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Kick you?

865
00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:58.000
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's that. You might have gotten caught up

866
00:51:58.000 --> 00:51:58.480
<v Speaker 2>in a dip.

867
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:02.159
<v Speaker 1>And wasn't there some filming? Wasn't there some footage of this?

868
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:04.199
<v Speaker 1>I thought? I feel like there.

869
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Was security footage probably.

870
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think maybe. But they were just having fun,

871
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:16.440
<v Speaker 1>they were enjoying their queer selves, and it just offended

872
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:19.039
<v Speaker 1>this child's sensibilities.

873
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because this was This would have been when Beyonce's

874
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Renaissance album came out, So of course they were cutting

875
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:31.320
<v Speaker 2>up at any given time. Yeah, because that's what you do.

876
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:36.000
<v Speaker 1>God forbid you'd be black and queer in public. Yeah.

877
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:38.920
<v Speaker 1>So I really do hope they returned this as a

878
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:42.280
<v Speaker 1>hate crime. Murdered murder too was a hate crime for sure.

879
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, it's hard to argue against it.

880
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:50.280
<v Speaker 2>So fingers crossed, and I'm glad that the.

881
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:52.639
<v Speaker 1>Good news is justice is happening. Yes, that's why this

882
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:56.000
<v Speaker 1>is in good news. Correct, It is finally happening and

883
00:52:56.159 --> 00:53:01.440
<v Speaker 1>deliberations continue. Yes, so uh again I mentioned this top

884
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:03.360
<v Speaker 1>of the show. The new Jersey Senate to approve the

885
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:07.519
<v Speaker 1>bill to protect reproductive and transgender healthcare. This goes in

886
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.119
<v Speaker 1>front of the full Assembly on June the eleventh. I

887
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:13.599
<v Speaker 1>will be out front mceing the rally and the vote

888
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:18.360
<v Speaker 1>will take place after. My guess is the rally will

889
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:21.519
<v Speaker 1>probably be about eleven thirty for an hour and the

890
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:25.239
<v Speaker 1>vote will probably take place shortly after one o'clock. So

891
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:29.119
<v Speaker 1>that's my guess. But that'll be confirmed this week and

892
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:32.599
<v Speaker 1>we'll share it on our page and all of that,

893
00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:36.519
<v Speaker 1>but this is monumental. It is in our state, and

894
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I am thrilled. Let's see. Oh I love this one

895
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:41.599
<v Speaker 1>the motherland.

896
00:53:42.920 --> 00:53:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I put this here for you.

897
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Pride returns to Budapest after the dictator was voted out.

898
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Freedom and love cannot be banned. Yeah, I love this

899
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:05.880
<v Speaker 1>they you know throughout the dictator. Finally, finally, finally an

900
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:11.760
<v Speaker 1>arab uh huh, and authorities gave the green light for

901
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:16.119
<v Speaker 1>the Hungarian capital's Pride parade to march again this month

902
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:22.199
<v Speaker 1>after last year's event was banned under victor what's his face?

903
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:25.599
<v Speaker 1>It's exciting, it's exciting.

904
00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:28.800
<v Speaker 2>So we can go visit Hungary now.

905
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, what connects us will be stronger than what

906
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:40.639
<v Speaker 1>divides us. Prime Minister Peter Mudja said in his swearing

907
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:44.719
<v Speaker 1>in Hungary will be home for every Hungarian and everyone

908
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:48.840
<v Speaker 1>can feel like they have a place in the Hungarian nation. Family,

909
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:51.280
<v Speaker 1>friends and communities will be able to speak to each

910
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:55.519
<v Speaker 1>other again. I have always wanted to go to you know,

911
00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:59.119
<v Speaker 1>see where my mother's people come from. And my cousin's

912
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:04.840
<v Speaker 1>been twice and this is heartening. Yeah, I wanted to

913
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:09.679
<v Speaker 1>see Budapeshe it's beautiful, It really is beautiful. You know,

914
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:13.639
<v Speaker 1>I've certainly seeing a lot of pictures and stuff. Yeah,

915
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:16.119
<v Speaker 1>but I would love to see it in person. But

916
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:19.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, under that regime, it was things are scary exactly.

917
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:22.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have to start learning Hungarian now, aren't I.

918
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:25.199
<v Speaker 1>I can only be of very little help, and Hungarian

919
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:27.679
<v Speaker 1>is not easy to learn. And it is its own thing,

920
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.840
<v Speaker 1>there isn't. It's not like the Romance languages. It's not like,

921
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:34.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, Spanish, therefore you pick you can pick up

922
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:36.400
<v Speaker 1>French and Italian. It's it's not like that at all.

923
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:41.119
<v Speaker 1>It's its own mess. I understand. It sounds good to me,

924
00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:43.239
<v Speaker 1>it's just the one that's the mess. I grew up

925
00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:47.119
<v Speaker 1>and I said, everybody's house had two languages. They should,

926
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, the one that they taught you and the

927
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:53.000
<v Speaker 1>one they taught you some I was the bad words.

928
00:55:53.079 --> 00:55:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was always jealous of people who spoke a

929
00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:57.039
<v Speaker 2>different language at home.

930
00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.159
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was cool. You know what happened, And

931
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:05.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot was once people came to America, they wanted

932
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to be American. So a lot of folks didn't speak

933
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:10.719
<v Speaker 1>the mother tongue at home if they could avoid it.

934
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Some couldn't, you know, some didn't assimilate as well. Whatever,

935
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:18.159
<v Speaker 1>But you know, my grandmother and mother would speak in

936
00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Hungarian when they did not want you to know what

937
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:23.559
<v Speaker 1>they were talking about, and I could pick up words.

938
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I still can only pick up words in a conversation.

939
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:31.599
<v Speaker 1>I can't I was never conversant. My mother was conversant.

940
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty fluent, but I don't think she could write,

941
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.280
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sure if she could read. My grandmother

942
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:41.920
<v Speaker 1>could read and write and Hungarian and whis fluent.

943
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

944
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:46.519
<v Speaker 1>And even though she was a first generation American, my

945
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:50.440
<v Speaker 1>grandmother was born in the United States right after her

946
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:55.440
<v Speaker 1>family came here from Buda pesh okay, yep, yep.

947
00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:57.119
<v Speaker 2>So I'm down for the challenge.

948
00:56:57.199 --> 00:57:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I love that there's a new day and

949
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:03.440
<v Speaker 1>a new spirit and a dictator is gone. May America

950
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:06.960
<v Speaker 1>have similar news. So this is good news. I picked

951
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:08.920
<v Speaker 1>up a bit ago. I know this was from April,

952
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:10.880
<v Speaker 1>so maybe it might be even better news by now.

953
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:21.320
<v Speaker 1>But the Selka, our beloved the Selka Ukrainian restaurant, famous

954
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:24.519
<v Speaker 1>in the East Village, is going to be open twenty

955
00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:28.519
<v Speaker 1>four to seven again. Yeah, at least Friday and Saturdays

956
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:32.400
<v Speaker 1>as of this writing, which is usually when we stumble

957
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:38.760
<v Speaker 1>in at five am for right, for Kabasi and for Ogison,

958
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:40.400
<v Speaker 1>we get that whole big.

959
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Platter after having been at crisis.

960
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Amazing borsh after Marie's crisis. Yes, many a meal eaten

961
00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:54.119
<v Speaker 1>their pre breakfast. But yeah, they're they're they're expanding their

962
00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:58.199
<v Speaker 1>hours again. So I'm I'm excited about that because it

963
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:00.559
<v Speaker 1>was always twenty four hours, no matter when.

964
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, because we never I know, I never

965
00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:04.639
<v Speaker 2>have been there before four am.

966
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean you can go in there anytime, of course,

967
00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:12.519
<v Speaker 1>you go, obviously, but it's just right that's when we went.

968
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:16.679
<v Speaker 1>That's when it was best. It's great. It's great drunk food.

969
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:21.320
<v Speaker 1>It's great food. It's great food. Yeah, but usually it

970
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:23.679
<v Speaker 1>wasn't dinner because so many times we would go, well,

971
00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:26.599
<v Speaker 1>the Edison Cafe is not there anymore. But like when

972
00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I would be in New York with my cousin, we

973
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:31.119
<v Speaker 1>would go to the Edison Cafe, get a nice bullets

974
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:34.719
<v Speaker 1>of their soup and a little bread or whatever, and

975
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:37.599
<v Speaker 1>then go to a show right on Broadway. Then we

976
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:40.239
<v Speaker 1>might have you know, then we would go to Marie

977
00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:44.159
<v Speaker 1>after the show ten thirty whatever for a little while,

978
00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:46.320
<v Speaker 1>and we might have a late dinner or a late

979
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 1>dinner right down the block at eleven thirty or whatever,

980
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and then go back right because Maurice was open till four, right,

981
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.599
<v Speaker 1>and we would stay until four, sometimes much later because

982
00:58:55.639 --> 00:58:58.760
<v Speaker 1>we knew the piano player and helped him count of tips, right,

983
00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, And so we would be then either cabbing

984
00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:07.800
<v Speaker 1>or walking. We walked over to Asalka and then you know,

985
00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:10.480
<v Speaker 1>get back to our hotel room and sleep at seven

986
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:13.800
<v Speaker 1>or something. But there. Yeah, so they haven't been good

987
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:17.800
<v Speaker 1>tests since COVID. Good times. They haven't been open twenty

988
00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:20.840
<v Speaker 1>four hours since COVID, and so it's coming back, and

989
00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:25.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, support them because and support them because the

990
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:29.400
<v Speaker 1>food is exclude. Yes, it's just Scremford food. It's wonderful,

991
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:30.599
<v Speaker 1>wonderful comfort food.

992
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I've enjoyed everything I've ever had there.

993
00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:36.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh, so that was good news. That was something fun

994
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:41.800
<v Speaker 1>that made me happy. You So this was this was

995
00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:47.840
<v Speaker 1>fun again. This was from early April. There were ads.

996
00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:53.559
<v Speaker 1>So here's the headline, Anti trans attack ads fail again

997
00:59:54.519 --> 01:00:01.239
<v Speaker 1>as Wisconsin liberal wins Supreme Court by a historic twenty margin.

998
01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Boom.

999
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Judge Chris Taylor defeated Judge Maria Lazar in the

1000
01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin Supreme Court race by twenty points, the largest margin

1001
01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:15.480
<v Speaker 1>in twenty six years by any justice. The race is

1002
01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:19.599
<v Speaker 1>significant because Lazar ran on a heavily anti trans ad

1003
01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:24.320
<v Speaker 1>strategy YEP, reminiscent of the strategy used by some Republicans

1004
01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:27.920
<v Speaker 1>in the twenty twenty four election, running ads that demonized

1005
01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:32.960
<v Speaker 1>transgender people as threats to the safety and dreams of children.

1006
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:41.880
<v Speaker 1>When Conservatives attacked Taylor's pro LGBTQ plus legislative record, including

1007
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:46.840
<v Speaker 1>bills she authored supporting transgender rights, she did not disavoult

1008
01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:50.719
<v Speaker 1>or distance herself from it. Despite the ads, Taylor won

1009
01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:55.559
<v Speaker 1>by a historic margin, following two other Wisconsin Supreme Court

1010
01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:59.119
<v Speaker 1>races in recent years where anti trans ads strategy was

1011
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:03.880
<v Speaker 1>a major part of the losing campaign. Losing and these

1012
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:06.679
<v Speaker 1>are the kinds of stories we need to follow just

1013
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:11.199
<v Speaker 1>to balance these the hate and nonsense. Is to really

1014
01:01:11.199 --> 01:01:14.880
<v Speaker 1>look at what's going on. You know, I agree if

1015
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:18.760
<v Speaker 1>you're trans, and in Wisconsin, there's certainly hope right that part,

1016
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:23.760
<v Speaker 1>that part, yes, and this Lazaar ran on a heavy

1017
01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:27.760
<v Speaker 1>anti trans strategy. One ad opened with a mother saying

1018
01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:30.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just not fair. My daughter works so hard and

1019
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:34.280
<v Speaker 1>loves sports. But now I'm worried about her competing against

1020
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:39.760
<v Speaker 1>boys because of activists like Chris Taylor. It breaks my heart,

1021
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:42.719
<v Speaker 1>as if you had one to see her safety and

1022
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:46.039
<v Speaker 1>dreams dashed by activist politicians.

1023
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh bitch, yeah, or maybe your daughter's just not good.

1024
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And they said she would Taylor would legislate from

1025
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:57.159
<v Speaker 1>the bench. No, the opposite would have happened to knock

1026
01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:01.960
<v Speaker 1>down voter id uh huh. Abortion up to birth. Please,

1027
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:04.880
<v Speaker 1>that's not a thing. Unallow boys in girls' sports.

1028
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:05.800
<v Speaker 2>No, not a thing.

1029
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:08.559
<v Speaker 1>And you know, if we just stopped gendering sports, I

1030
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:11.519
<v Speaker 1>don't know and went by weight class, it's abital yep,

1031
01:02:11.559 --> 01:02:14.440
<v Speaker 1>but you know, whatever, whatever, what do I know? Yeah,

1032
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:17.280
<v Speaker 1>she was targeted left, right and sideways, and it just

1033
01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:24.119
<v Speaker 1>helped her win, big, big. She cruised to victory sixty

1034
01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:28.440
<v Speaker 1>forty ha mm hmm. Yep.

1035
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:29.239
<v Speaker 2>That's not close.

1036
01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Yep, No, it's not close. It expands the liberal majority

1037
01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:39.760
<v Speaker 1>to five to two. It is the largest liberal majority

1038
01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:43.880
<v Speaker 1>on the court since at least the nineteen seventies. How

1039
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:47.079
<v Speaker 1>about that she carried more than twenty counties that voted

1040
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:49.039
<v Speaker 1>for Donald Trump in twenty twenty four. This is the

1041
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:51.840
<v Speaker 1>other thing we have to look at, and virtually every

1042
01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:55.320
<v Speaker 1>county in the state swung toward Democrats compared to the

1043
01:02:55.400 --> 01:03:01.119
<v Speaker 1>presidential race. Perhaps most remarkably, Taylor flipped a county part

1044
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:07.760
<v Speaker 1>of the notorious Woo counties Waksha, Azuki, and Washington that

1045
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:11.960
<v Speaker 1>have been the bedrock of Republican Republican strengths in southeastern

1046
01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin for decades, she flipped Azuki County. In Dane County,

1047
01:03:18.679 --> 01:03:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Taylor hit eighty four percent. Good for her, good for Wisconsin. Indeed, Yeah,

1048
01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:31.199
<v Speaker 1>I do. I think equality is going to win ultimately.

1049
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, I think Americans are tired of

1050
01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the nonsense.

1051
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Lord knows.

1052
01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I I certainly hope so. But we have to follow

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01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:46.760
<v Speaker 1>those things. What's next? Back in April, there was a

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01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:51.920
<v Speaker 1>black trans woman, Devanta Curtis. We were not recording to

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01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:53.920
<v Speaker 1>talk about this, but she was found dead in her

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01:03:54.119 --> 01:03:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Chicago apartment after assault, suffering multiple blunt force injuries. Yes

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01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:05.320
<v Speaker 1>April filth and DeAndre bell is the man who has

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<v Speaker 1>been now charged with her murder. Twenty four year old.

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01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:13.039
<v Speaker 1>He has charged with first degree murder and possession of

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01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:17.000
<v Speaker 1>a stolen vehicle BAM, which means there was intent, which

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01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:20.800
<v Speaker 1>means they probably did know each other. Yep, but oh,

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01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:26.360
<v Speaker 1>court documents alleged he searched online for methods of killing

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01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:30.400
<v Speaker 1>prior to the attack. He googled how to kill someone

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01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:33.599
<v Speaker 1>with a hammer, and if a person gets hit in

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01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the head with a hammer while sleeping, what happens.

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01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:38.679
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't get much more premeditated than that.

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01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:46.280
<v Speaker 1>No kidding, no kidding, fucker. Yeah, and then he went

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01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:51.599
<v Speaker 1>and stole her car. They found him later the day

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01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:56.119
<v Speaker 1>that they found her with her car and keys and

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01:04:56.159 --> 01:05:01.519
<v Speaker 1>a bloody hammer. Yeah. The good news is the good

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01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:06.280
<v Speaker 1>news is yeah, he's being charged with first degree murder.

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01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:09.920
<v Speaker 1>So good, that is good news. Any bit of justice

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01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:12.599
<v Speaker 1>rest in power, sister, But yes, it is good news.

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01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, any bit of justice is good news.

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01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whenever they actually get us gendered right, at least

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01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:20.880
<v Speaker 1>in death, you know, and then we see some follow

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01:05:20.920 --> 01:05:23.440
<v Speaker 1>through by the police, because you know, we've certainly seen

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01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the times when getting our attention was hard the police.

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01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yes, so this was fun.

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01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, federal court sides with trans athletes and says Donald

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01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Trump's executive orders aren't law, no ship, which is what

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01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:42.320
<v Speaker 2>we've been screaming.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, Yes, we have yes, we have Minnesota schools

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01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:52.000
<v Speaker 1>by law allowing trans athletes to play based on their

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01:05:52.039 --> 01:05:57.320
<v Speaker 1>gender identity still stands. Yeah.

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01:05:58.000 --> 01:05:59.760
<v Speaker 2>This is also from mid April.

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01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:03.360
<v Speaker 1>A federal peers court in Minnesota ruled in favor of

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01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:07.239
<v Speaker 1>trans athletes, rejecting a push to ban trans kids from

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01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:11.039
<v Speaker 1>girls' sports in the state. While the judges ruled that

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01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:14.519
<v Speaker 1>female Athletes United FAU, the group that brought the case,

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01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:18.400
<v Speaker 1>did not demonstrate a private right of action. The decision

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01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:21.400
<v Speaker 1>also hinged on the fact that Donald Trump's executive orders

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01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:24.000
<v Speaker 1>do not represent settled law.

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01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Nope, it's like a wish list, but it's nothing official.

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01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:32.280
<v Speaker 1>FAU sued over the fact that a trans high school

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01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:35.800
<v Speaker 1>senior referred to as Jane Doe in the lawsuit is

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01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the captain of a varsity softball team in the Minnesota

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01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:46.719
<v Speaker 1>State High School League. Executive guidance and agency findings in

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01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:52.079
<v Speaker 1>and of themselves do not reflect settled law, wrote the

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01:06:52.119 --> 01:06:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Eighth Circuit Court Judge Raymond Grunder in a decision on

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01:06:56.199 --> 01:06:59.480
<v Speaker 1>behalf of the three judge panel. The Executive Branch's views

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01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:04.599
<v Speaker 1>on trans participation in sports may guide its own enforcement approach,

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01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:09.559
<v Speaker 1>but they cannot independently establish a strong likelihood that dose

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01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:16.039
<v Speaker 1>participation violates Title nine or it's implementing regulations. Uh huh

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01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:22.079
<v Speaker 1>you yeah, yeah. The Minnesota State High School League introduced

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01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:26.400
<v Speaker 1>a bylaw back in twenty sixteen that allowed for students

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01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:30.199
<v Speaker 1>to participate in sports consistent with their gender, identity or expression.

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01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:35.039
<v Speaker 1>It went largely unchallenged for nearly a decade, and no

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01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:38.360
<v Speaker 1>one was harmed, right, or we're going to be Yeah,

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01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:41.880
<v Speaker 1>no one was harmed. Right, But an anti trance group

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01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:45.440
<v Speaker 1>looking for bullshit decided to sue in May of twenty

1112
01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:50.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty five, claiming trans participation in girls' sports was discriminatory

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01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:57.719
<v Speaker 1>under Title nine. Shit, yeah, just shut the hell up. Yeah,

1114
01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:01.400
<v Speaker 1>let's see. A lower court denied their appeal for a

1115
01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:05.760
<v Speaker 1>trans band and their request for the State High School

1116
01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:08.440
<v Speaker 1>League's by law to be blocked, and the Court of

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01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Appeals upheld the ruling, while adding some additional perspective.

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01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, so there.

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01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Ye. Court noted that it is only possible to sue

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01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:25.880
<v Speaker 1>under Title nine if it can be proven that discrimination

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01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:35.520
<v Speaker 1>occurred and was intentional. Exactly because fau's allegations sound disparate

1122
01:08:35.840 --> 01:08:42.079
<v Speaker 1>impact and do not allow for an inference of discriminatory

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01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:48.000
<v Speaker 1>intent or deliberate indifference, we conclude that its claim of

1124
01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:52.720
<v Speaker 1>ineffective accommodation and unequal treatment under Title nine are not

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01:08:52.840 --> 01:08:56.840
<v Speaker 1>claims of intentional discrimination.

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01:08:56.399 --> 01:08:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Because that's not how that works.

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01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Right, You're arguing against inclusion and calling it discrimination. Thank god,

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01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:12.079
<v Speaker 1>the rebellian shit doesn't hold up everywhere, right right anyway, Yeah,

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01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:15.279
<v Speaker 1>fuck them, and we thank you. We're gonna see more

1130
01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:19.000
<v Speaker 1>of this. We're gonna see more of this, you know,

1131
01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:21.039
<v Speaker 1>because it was good lull in the first place. These

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01:09:21.039 --> 01:09:24.159
<v Speaker 1>are good policies in the first place. They are in

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01:09:24.199 --> 01:09:26.920
<v Speaker 1>line with Title nine. They are in line with sanity

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01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:30.680
<v Speaker 1>and decency and you know, the rights of human beings.

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01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:34.640
<v Speaker 1>That's where I think we're gonna go back to because

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01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:36.840
<v Speaker 1>how long do you bang this drum? I mean, we

1137
01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:39.399
<v Speaker 1>watched them do it. We're old enough to have seen

1138
01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:43.680
<v Speaker 1>this bullshit play out, right, you know. We saw how

1139
01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:47.239
<v Speaker 1>effective the fight against gay marriage was in two thousand

1140
01:09:47.279 --> 01:09:51.399
<v Speaker 1>and four, right when Bush got is second term, God

1141
01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:56.800
<v Speaker 1>help us. But then by twenty fifteen marriage equality was

1142
01:09:56.800 --> 01:09:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the rule of the land and no one has been

1143
01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:05.199
<v Speaker 1>harmed the eleven years now that it's been just fine.

1144
01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:11.840
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, I think we're going to see more

1145
01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:15.680
<v Speaker 1>of that. Oh I'm sure, I really do you know?

1146
01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:21.680
<v Speaker 1>But good news. Nonetheless, Indeed, let's see what else we

1147
01:10:21.720 --> 01:10:24.319
<v Speaker 1>put up here. It looks like one more.

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01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes. A teacher suspended for supporting trans athlete gets reinstated

1149
01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:37.840
<v Speaker 2>after allies fought back. His school district just determined that

1150
01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:43.000
<v Speaker 2>a Title nine complaint against an allegedly trans student was meritless.

1151
01:10:43.119 --> 01:10:49.439
<v Speaker 1>Yes. A Michigan school district's athletic director was reinstated four

1152
01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:54.000
<v Speaker 1>months after he publicly empathized with a transgender student athlete

1153
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:58.720
<v Speaker 1>at the center of a Title nine investigation. Doctor chat

1154
01:10:58.720 --> 01:11:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Hessen was placed an administrative leave after he spoke with

1155
01:11:03.560 --> 01:11:08.359
<v Speaker 1>LGBTQ plus news site uncloseted media about the athlete, a

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01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:12.840
<v Speaker 1>volleyball player competing for Skyline High School in Monroe County,

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01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:18.079
<v Speaker 1>his school district. Hessen's school district was under investigation at

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01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:22.239
<v Speaker 1>the time after a local father had filed a complaint

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01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:26.399
<v Speaker 1>alleging that his daughter had been unfairly made to compete

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01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:28.479
<v Speaker 1>against an allegedly trans athlete.

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01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:30.840
<v Speaker 2>And my daughter sucks, so he can't be put in

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01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:38.079
<v Speaker 2>a body compet Yeah.

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01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:38.399
<v Speaker 3>So.

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01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:42.359
<v Speaker 1>The student at the center of the investigation had previously

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01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:47.560
<v Speaker 1>been outed and dead named by Fox News Sports site

1166
01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:51.880
<v Speaker 1>OutKick in dozens of stories and social posts targeting her,

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01:11:52.359 --> 01:11:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the school district and the Michigan lawmakers who developed the

1168
01:11:55.680 --> 01:12:01.079
<v Speaker 1>state's inclusive athletic policy targeting her. This district right, so

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01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:06.520
<v Speaker 1>they targeted everyone. The aforementioned father's complaint alleged that these

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01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:11.479
<v Speaker 1>policies violated Title nine right, a funeral law prohibiting sex

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01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:16.479
<v Speaker 1>based educational discrimination. Good Christ and of course, Riley Gaines

1172
01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:21.840
<v Speaker 1>and her search for relevance, reposted part of the interview

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01:12:22.159 --> 01:12:26.279
<v Speaker 1>to Twitter, saying it was amazing to watch grown men

1174
01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:28.520
<v Speaker 1>act like calling a boy a boy is the worst

1175
01:12:28.520 --> 01:12:34.279
<v Speaker 1>atrocity a human is capable of committing. She would have

1176
01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:37.000
<v Speaker 1>no relevance in the world her fifth place asks were

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01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:41.000
<v Speaker 1>it not for her hate being paid for. Yeah, but

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01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I hate people the hate.

1179
01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:48.239
<v Speaker 2>She's such a tool, literally a dull and rusty too.

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01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:51.479
<v Speaker 1>If that's the relevance you get in this world, I

1181
01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:53.079
<v Speaker 1>don't want it. You know what I mean? Like, if

1182
01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:55.439
<v Speaker 1>that's what it takes is you've got to sell your

1183
01:12:55.479 --> 01:13:00.680
<v Speaker 1>soul and be openly pathetic, likethetic. Yeah, someone ever taught

1184
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you actual values? Shame I was fifth, knew I know

1185
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:10.159
<v Speaker 1>and money you were fifth. No matter what that's the

1186
01:13:10.239 --> 01:13:13.479
<v Speaker 1>ridiculous part. You were fifth, No matter fucking what, you

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01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:16.720
<v Speaker 1>tied for a fifth and somehow.

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01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Made a You weren't even good enough to be sixth.

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01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Nope, shut up. The Board of Education initiated an independent

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01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:34.479
<v Speaker 1>investigation of the claim. The reinstatement occurred after investigators determined

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01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:38.880
<v Speaker 1>that all claims against the school district were unsubstantiated and

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01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:42.279
<v Speaker 1>the district was not in violation of Title I. No,

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01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:47.680
<v Speaker 1>they weren't. Claims regarding equal access to teams, the provision

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01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:50.520
<v Speaker 1>of a safe environment, and the protection of student privacy

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01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:56.159
<v Speaker 1>and bodily integrity were unsubstantiated, according to school district superintendent

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01:13:56.239 --> 01:14:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Andrew saw The district's decision to place Hessen on leave

1197
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:04.920
<v Speaker 1>inspired outrage from local officials, rightly so, who signed an

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01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:08.600
<v Speaker 1>open letter calling for his reinstatement. It was in March.

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01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:13.680
<v Speaker 1>She was reinstated in April. At their core, doctor Hesson's

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01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:18.560
<v Speaker 1>remarks expressed empathy for a young student athlete navigating unconscionable

1201
01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:22.199
<v Speaker 1>scrutiny and demonstrated the kind of care and leadership we

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01:14:22.199 --> 01:14:26.840
<v Speaker 1>should expect from educators and athletic leaders entrusted with supporting students.

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01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Here here, this is leadership. We need more compassion in

1204
01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:36.279
<v Speaker 1>our society right now, not less, said signatory and local

1205
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:40.479
<v Speaker 1>county prosecutor Eli Sabatt. But at the very least, we

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01:14:40.520 --> 01:14:45.800
<v Speaker 1>should expect school officials of all people to give every

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01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:49.600
<v Speaker 1>child grace and understanding. For a school official to empathize

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01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:54.680
<v Speaker 1>with a student who's been targeted by adults isn't objectionable.

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01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:59.880
<v Speaker 1>To the contrary, it's the bare minimum we should all expect.

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01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:06.119
<v Speaker 1>So there, so there, it's good news, it is. Yeah,

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01:15:06.199 --> 01:15:12.079
<v Speaker 1>that's what we found. Anyway, it's time for that little

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01:15:12.079 --> 01:15:18.920
<v Speaker 1>segment we like to call shine employ people taking pleasure

1213
01:15:19.239 --> 01:15:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and the main yay.

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01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:31.760
<v Speaker 2>So the headline Maga Man, which sounds like the worst

1215
01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:38.600
<v Speaker 2>superhero ever. Maga Man secretly recorded men using restrooms yep,

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01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:45.199
<v Speaker 2>claiming he was looking to catch grooming. I hope he

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01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:47.239
<v Speaker 2>stretched first, because that was some twist.

1218
01:15:47.479 --> 01:15:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Used meta smart glasses to record men using urinals and

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01:15:54.199 --> 01:15:57.079
<v Speaker 1>then posted the video to the internet.

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01:15:57.680 --> 01:16:02.840
<v Speaker 2>He has been arrested, which should be a perfect example

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01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:06.039
<v Speaker 2>of why those smart glasses are not a good fucking idea.

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01:16:07.079 --> 01:16:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, of course this was in Florida. Of course, this

1223
01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:13.439
<v Speaker 1>was a sixty one year old Florida man.

1224
01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Arrested who looks like a thumb.

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01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Arrested on charges of video voyeurism after filming men in

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01:16:22.319 --> 01:16:27.720
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom at the April eighteenth Naples PrideFest and posting

1227
01:16:28.199 --> 01:16:31.840
<v Speaker 1>so he went to Pride to hang in the bathroom.

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01:16:34.039 --> 01:16:35.560
<v Speaker 2>To take videos of men, to.

1229
01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Take videos of men peeing, so he could catch groomers.

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01:16:40.119 --> 01:16:42.359
<v Speaker 2>To make sure that they weren't doing anything.

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01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh wrong, Baby, just.

1232
01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Suck the dick. Damn it, God, just suck the dick.

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01:16:48.199 --> 01:16:50.880
<v Speaker 1>It would be a kinder world, wouldn't it. God.

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01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:55.159
<v Speaker 2>First, you'd feel better and you couldn't talk shit because

1235
01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:57.960
<v Speaker 2>you got a dick in your mouth. God, damn it.

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01:16:58.359 --> 01:17:03.319
<v Speaker 1>Dude's name is Andrew Yats. He posted a forty minute

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01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:07.760
<v Speaker 1>bodycam video of his sheets of his time at the event,

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01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:13.000
<v Speaker 1>which included bathroom footage. The video also shows him asking

1239
01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:16.920
<v Speaker 1>various vendors and attendees whether they think it's against the

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01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:21.520
<v Speaker 1>First Amendment that the nearby streets were blocked off, presumably

1241
01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:26.039
<v Speaker 1>for security so that protesters could not get too close.

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01:17:26.479 --> 01:17:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Many told him that it was likely a response to

1243
01:17:29.039 --> 01:17:33.720
<v Speaker 1>last year, when the anti LGBTQ plus extremist group Proud.

1244
01:17:33.479 --> 01:17:34.399
<v Speaker 2>Boys showed up.

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01:17:34.520 --> 01:17:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he claimed in the title of the video that

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01:17:38.079 --> 01:17:43.159
<v Speaker 1>he was documenting the grooming churches at the Naples Gay

1247
01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Pride Tranny event. Well, it says tra ny event. We okay,

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01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:59.239
<v Speaker 1>all right, this is what he said or wrote. Comps

1249
01:17:59.279 --> 01:18:03.079
<v Speaker 1>had me follow Oh yeah, this is all his misspelling.

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01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Sorry everywhere. The video is still up on YouTube. In

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01:18:08.039 --> 01:18:13.079
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom footage, he uses the restroom, then captures others

1252
01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:17.600
<v Speaker 1>in a mirror while washing his hands. The people recorded

1253
01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:21.600
<v Speaker 1>ended up being too undercover. Oh this gets better, and

1254
01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:26.720
<v Speaker 1>reportedly told police they felt shocked and embarrassed by the

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01:18:26.840 --> 01:18:32.039
<v Speaker 1>video posted online. Yes, I did go in public bathroom.

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01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Nobody was in there. I went in the stall to pay,

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01:18:36.199 --> 01:18:40.920
<v Speaker 1>He told the newspaper. My intent was not to get

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<v Speaker 1>I guess dick picks like they're trying to say, Oh honey,

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01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:50.119
<v Speaker 1>if it was illegal, why didn't the comps have it

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01:18:50.159 --> 01:18:54.239
<v Speaker 1>taken down? If it was illegal, why isn't their logic

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01:18:55.199 --> 01:18:59.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, never ceases.

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<v Speaker 2>Please described my face to me because I know I'm

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01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:02.359
<v Speaker 2>making one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what it looks like. I'm not looking

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01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:13.840
<v Speaker 1>at you. Um yeah, oh my god. Ry. A statement

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01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:17.439
<v Speaker 1>from Naples Pride said Sheets was using meta smart glasses

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01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to record and pointed out that the irony is difficult

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01:19:22.079 --> 01:19:26.479
<v Speaker 1>to ignore. Okay, a man who publicly accused our community

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01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:31.279
<v Speaker 1>of grooming now stands accused of unlawfully recording people in

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01:19:31.319 --> 01:19:36.920
<v Speaker 1>a place where privacy is expected. Naples Pride remains committed

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01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:39.960
<v Speaker 1>to providing a safe, welcoming environment for all Pride Fast

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01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:43.880
<v Speaker 1>attendees and is grateful to the Naples Police Department and

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01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Collier County Sheriff's Office for taking this matter seriously and

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01:19:47.319 --> 01:19:51.359
<v Speaker 1>protecting the privacy and safety of those at the event.

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01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:53.479
<v Speaker 2>If you would have just sucked the dick, this whole

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01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:55.720
<v Speaker 2>thing would have been over in under ten minutes and

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01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:57.680
<v Speaker 2>we could have all moved on with our lives. But

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01:19:57.840 --> 01:19:59.199
<v Speaker 2>now you've got to Now you're.

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01:19:59.039 --> 01:19:59.720
<v Speaker 1>In the system.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:20:01.640 --> 01:20:05.920
<v Speaker 1>A booking report revealed that detectives were already concerned about

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01:20:05.920 --> 01:20:09.319
<v Speaker 1>sheets during the event. One detective said they saw him

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01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:12.119
<v Speaker 1>trying to enter the event with a handgun Jesus, but

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01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:16.079
<v Speaker 1>securities stopped him. He returned the gun to his car.

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01:20:16.520 --> 01:20:19.520
<v Speaker 1>He allegedly returned later to get an air of fifteen

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01:20:19.560 --> 01:20:24.680
<v Speaker 1>style rifle and bring it to the event's entrance. She

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01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:31.079
<v Speaker 1>has been charged with both video voyeurism and video voyeurism dissemination.

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01:20:31.279 --> 01:20:32.640
<v Speaker 2>How small is it, dude?

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01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:37.199
<v Speaker 1>Seriously? Yeah? So whatever reason you were there, sir.

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01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:42.399
<v Speaker 2>None of it was because of the shit you tried

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01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:48.720
<v Speaker 2>to say, no and yeah, consequences God, here they are again,

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01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:51.039
<v Speaker 2>just public service announcement.

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01:20:51.800 --> 01:20:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Suck the dick right, just stop stop all this. I

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01:20:57.079 --> 01:21:02.479
<v Speaker 1>was trying to film rumors, m really really.

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01:21:02.520 --> 01:21:03.319
<v Speaker 2>With one hand.

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01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Good God, Good God in heaven. What's next? Oh? This

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01:21:11.880 --> 01:21:12.520
<v Speaker 1>was fun.

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01:21:13.479 --> 01:21:19.319
<v Speaker 2>California Supreme Court disbars anti LGBTQ plus lawyer who tried

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<v Speaker 2>to help Trump overturn the twenty twenty election.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah yes.

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<v Speaker 2>John Eastman once chaired the National Organization for Marriage, a

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01:21:29.119 --> 01:21:35.479
<v Speaker 2>group that opposed marriage equality. Ah So, the California Supreme

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01:21:35.479 --> 01:21:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Court disbarred anti LGBTQ plus lawyer John Eastman from practicing

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01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:43.159
<v Speaker 2>law in the state because of his efforts to help

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01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:47.439
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump overturn the twenty twenty presidential elections. The state's

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01:21:47.520 --> 01:21:50.840
<v Speaker 2>High Court declined to review Eastman's appeal of a lower

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01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:54.439
<v Speaker 2>court's recommendation that he be stripped of his legal license.

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<v Speaker 2>He has pledged to appeal the High Court's decision to

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01:21:57.640 --> 01:22:02.159
<v Speaker 2>the US Supreme Court. Shocker, The state Supreme Court upheld

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty twenty four decision by the State Bar Association

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01:22:05.079 --> 01:22:09.079
<v Speaker 2>to disbar Eastman. In that decision, State Bar Judge Ivett

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01:22:09.159 --> 01:22:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Roland found Eastman culpable on ten of eleven counts filed

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01:22:14.079 --> 01:22:17.840
<v Speaker 2>by the California State Bar for his quote, moral turpitude,

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01:22:18.479 --> 01:22:22.560
<v Speaker 2>and false and misleading statements about the twenty twenty.

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01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Election Chickens coming home.

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01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:33.199
<v Speaker 2>To roost, Yes, exactly exactly.

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01:22:34.279 --> 01:22:34.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Eastman's lawyer, Randall Miller, said that he'll appeal the case

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01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:43.520
<v Speaker 2>to the US Supreme Court in an effort to repudiate

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01:22:43.640 --> 01:22:46.239
<v Speaker 2>this threat to the rule of law and our nation's

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01:22:46.319 --> 01:22:48.960
<v Speaker 2>adversarial system of justice.

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01:22:49.399 --> 01:22:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Good Christ, uh huh.

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01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:52.840
<v Speaker 2>He still has a license to practice law in DC.

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01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he'll be more welcome.

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01:22:54.319 --> 01:22:57.439
<v Speaker 1>There or Bypox News. God knows he sounds ripe to

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01:22:57.479 --> 01:22:59.079
<v Speaker 1>be a comment uh huh.

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01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:03.159
<v Speaker 2>Suggested that Trump and the Republican Party tried to overturn

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01:23:03.399 --> 01:23:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Trump's twenty twenty election losses in seven key swing states

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01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:12.239
<v Speaker 2>using a proposed slate of alternate presidential electors willing to

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01:23:12.319 --> 01:23:16.039
<v Speaker 2>vote for Trump in the electoral College. Eastman faced state

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01:23:16.119 --> 01:23:19.000
<v Speaker 2>charges along with other lawyers who encouraged Trump supporters to

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01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:24.159
<v Speaker 2>sign paperwork falsely attesting that they were legitimate presidential electors

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01:23:24.439 --> 01:23:29.279
<v Speaker 2>allowed to vote against President elect Joe Biden's electoral college victory,

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01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:33.319
<v Speaker 2>and of course these alternate electors had no legal authority

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01:23:33.359 --> 01:23:38.319
<v Speaker 2>to claim themselves as twenty twenty electoral college voters. The

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01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:42.439
<v Speaker 2>drafted strategy of Eastman's said that their votes would have

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01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:45.439
<v Speaker 2>allowed Trump to claim he'd won more electoral votes than

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01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:49.920
<v Speaker 2>the actual winner, Joe Biden, who received over seven million

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01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:51.720
<v Speaker 2>more votes than Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude was a fucking idiot. Yeah, and he can't practice

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01:23:55.079 --> 01:23:59.880
<v Speaker 1>law in California. Yes, good, good.

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01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:03.680
<v Speaker 2>It's called the fuck around and find Out school of Law.

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01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:06.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, good.

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01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:08.439
<v Speaker 2>In this semester is the find out.

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01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to remember Nuremberg. Oh yes, I'm just like,

1346
01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I have these visions of accountability in this world, seriously,

1347
01:24:20.199 --> 01:24:26.640
<v Speaker 1>like in this country, of these people who think they

1348
01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:28.720
<v Speaker 1>can get away with everything. I mean, which is what

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01:24:28.800 --> 01:24:32.960
<v Speaker 1>this administration is doing right now, right testing every boundary

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01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:37.800
<v Speaker 1>of our democracy if it holds, If it holds, uh,

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01:24:37.960 --> 01:24:40.039
<v Speaker 1>and there are midterms and they get their ass as

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01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:42.720
<v Speaker 1>kicked as they should. Yeah, yeah, I have I have

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01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:46.760
<v Speaker 1>dreams of more of this happening, and these people being

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01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:51.840
<v Speaker 1>disgraced and descreded. It as they have earned, Yes earned, Yes,

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01:24:52.159 --> 01:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>so good. Yeah good. Here's one this I've been I've

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01:24:56.640 --> 01:24:59.000
<v Speaker 1>been dying for this. Kennedy Center.

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01:24:59.159 --> 01:25:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Center orders staff to remove Trump's name. Hallelujah, hallelujah.

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01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:11.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. On Thursday, this just happened. The Kennedy Center's General

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01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Council ordered the staff to remove President Donald Trump's name

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01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:20.359
<v Speaker 1>from the building by June twelfth, according to a memo

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01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>obtained by less than a week from now, in order

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01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:28.319
<v Speaker 1>to comply with a recent court order, staff were also

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01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:33.199
<v Speaker 1>instructed to immediately update some Kennedy Center documentation, including their

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01:25:33.239 --> 01:25:38.640
<v Speaker 1>email signatures and marketing materials, to remove Trump's name. According

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01:25:38.720 --> 01:25:43.039
<v Speaker 1>to the memo, to comply with disorder, you must immediately

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01:25:43.319 --> 01:25:47.039
<v Speaker 1>change email signatures, letterhead and other documents to reflect the

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01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>name as the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing

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01:25:52.800 --> 01:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Arts or Kennedy Center. Other changes, such as to templates

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01:25:57.720 --> 01:26:02.199
<v Speaker 1>and forms, sign it brochures, and website pages must be

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01:26:02.319 --> 01:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>completed no later than Friday, June twelveth Get this bullshit

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<v Speaker 1>off of my signageh the director. Is a blow to

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01:26:12.840 --> 01:26:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the President's bid to control of the Performing Arts Center

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01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:18.880
<v Speaker 1>and his broader effort to put his stamp on the

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01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>nation's capital. His takeover of the institution began in the

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01:26:22.880 --> 01:26:25.680
<v Speaker 1>early days of his second term, when he gutted the

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01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:31.119
<v Speaker 1>existing board and installed loyalists. Yeah Yeah. When asked for

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01:26:31.199 --> 01:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>comment on the memo, the White House referred CNN to

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01:26:34.079 --> 01:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Trump's truth social post the fuck out of here, responding

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01:26:38.960 --> 01:26:45.920
<v Speaker 1>to last week's court ruling, What what anyway?

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01:26:46.479 --> 01:26:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Cut to all of those artists and organizations flooding back?

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01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:56.159
<v Speaker 1>One hopes, right, but we don't know how, Like, this

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01:26:56.399 --> 01:26:59.279
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that the board changes, Like, let's see what happens.

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01:26:59.319 --> 01:27:01.800
<v Speaker 1>This shakes the fucking name off it, which is a

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01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>good start, right. US District Judge Casey Cooper concluded that

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01:27:06.760 --> 01:27:11.079
<v Speaker 1>the law establishing the center makes crystal clear that the

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<v Speaker 1>center is to be named for President Kennedy and it

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01:27:14.079 --> 01:27:18.399
<v Speaker 1>cannot bear any other formal name or public memorial based

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01:27:18.399 --> 01:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>on the board's unilateral say so, Congress gave the Kennedy

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01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Center its name, and only Congress can change it. He

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01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:32.479
<v Speaker 1>gave officials two weeks to remove any signage that included

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01:27:32.520 --> 01:27:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Trump's name and update its website to remove all references

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01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:39.640
<v Speaker 1>to the name Trump Kennedy Center or the Donald J.

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01:27:39.720 --> 01:27:43.479
<v Speaker 1>Trump and John F. Kennedy Memorial Center for the Performing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing. The Kennedy Center is an existing organization.

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01:27:50.079 --> 01:27:53.239
<v Speaker 2>The people that are sitting on the board currently are

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01:27:53.399 --> 01:27:58.079
<v Speaker 2>the board of the Trump Kennedy. Well, so if that

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01:27:58.239 --> 01:28:03.119
<v Speaker 2>organization no longer exists, doesn't that board aren't they stripped

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<v Speaker 2>of power?

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01:28:04.039 --> 01:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay? So since it's founding, the executive branch has had

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01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:12.399
<v Speaker 1>oversight over the board of trustees, meaning the President has

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01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>had oversight over that, while Congress has been responsible for

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01:28:16.840 --> 01:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>annual appropriations for its operation and maintenance. So I don't

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01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>know that he's According to Trump, I have instructed the

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01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Department of Commerce to make all necessary arrangements with Congress

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01:28:28.399 --> 01:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>to allow a full and complete transfer of this institution,

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01:28:31.880 --> 01:28:35.199
<v Speaker 1>giving them the responsibility of its operation, maintenance, and management.

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01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:38.359
<v Speaker 1>He wrote on a true social post. Of course he's

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01:28:38.399 --> 01:28:42.039
<v Speaker 1>being treated unfairly. He has no interest in continuing lest

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01:28:42.119 --> 01:28:44.239
<v Speaker 1>he was free to do what he wanted to do.

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01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Right.

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01:28:46.680 --> 01:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>So if that's the case, then I hope that Congress

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01:28:50.880 --> 01:28:53.439
<v Speaker 1>becomes turns blue and gets rid of all these Charlottan's

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01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and puts back a board that actually knows something about

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01:28:56.880 --> 01:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing exactly.

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01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:00.279
<v Speaker 2>And then would get some actual artists in there.

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01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we could get some actual artists back in

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01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the Kennedy and.

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01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:06.880
<v Speaker 2>That would frost his fucking cookies. If everybody came screaming

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01:29:06.960 --> 01:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>back again.

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01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:08.439
<v Speaker 1>You know they would.

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01:29:09.640 --> 01:29:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why is everybody performing to?

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01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:20.079
<v Speaker 1>This is a big smack in the face.

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01:29:20.439 --> 01:29:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Yep, And I love it. Maybe it'll wake him up.

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01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>You can't wake dementia. It doesn't work that way.

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01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:33.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, literally wake him up. He's always fallen asleep.

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01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay and right. A judge tosses the Kennedy Center suit

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01:29:38.039 --> 01:29:41.079
<v Speaker 1>against a musician who canceled their Christmas Eve show.

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01:29:41.239 --> 01:29:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Ah, it was a nice little one two punch m hm.

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01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Attorneys from musician Chuck Red say a DC Superior Court

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01:29:49.680 --> 01:29:53.479
<v Speaker 1>judge dismissed a breach of contract lawsuit filed against Red

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01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>after he canceled a Christmas Eve performance at the Kennedy

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01:29:56.600 --> 01:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Center in protest of President Donald Trump's influencer over the venue,

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01:30:02.319 --> 01:30:09.239
<v Speaker 1>which any and everyone of any character did. The dismissal

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01:30:09.359 --> 01:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>on Friday was granted under Washington's anti slap laws, which

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01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>are I know, which are designated to prevent meritless lawsuits

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01:30:18.640 --> 01:30:21.960
<v Speaker 1>intended to silence opposing points of view on matters of

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01:30:22.039 --> 01:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>public interest. Read a drummer and vibraphone player who has

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01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>toured with everyone from Dizzy Gillespie to Ray Brown, has

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01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>presided over our holiday jazz jams at the Kennedy Center

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01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>since two thousand and six.

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01:30:37.600 --> 01:30:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Damn.

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01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>He called off last year's performance shortly after Trump's handpicked

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01:30:41.960 --> 01:30:45.159
<v Speaker 1>board at the Kennedy Center voted to add the president's

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01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:46.479
<v Speaker 1>name to the facility.

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01:30:46.760 --> 01:30:48.680
<v Speaker 2>He said, do bodoo hell no.

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01:30:51.720 --> 01:30:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Quote. One of his lawyers, Lisa J. Banks said, quote.

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01:30:56.520 --> 01:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>The Center sued mister Red because he publicly and rightly

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01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>object acted to adding Donald Trump's name to the Kennedy Center,

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01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>a living memorial to former President John F. Kennedy. Yep,

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01:31:07.279 --> 01:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>this is his lawyer, Lisa J. Banks, one of his lawyers.

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01:31:11.239 --> 01:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>The lawsuit against mister Red was political retribution, pure and

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01:31:15.680 --> 01:31:20.079
<v Speaker 1>simple by the Trump Kennedy Center, and the court correctly

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01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:25.039
<v Speaker 1>solid as such and dismissing the case with prejudice. They

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01:31:25.039 --> 01:31:29.359
<v Speaker 1>can't bring it back. Ah. Yep, so good good. They're

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01:31:29.439 --> 01:31:33.239
<v Speaker 1>very pleased with the judges reeling another smack in the face. Yep,

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01:31:33.680 --> 01:31:37.039
<v Speaker 1>this is what happens. This is what happens when you

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01:31:38.399 --> 01:31:42.239
<v Speaker 1>vote for a reality star, especially the second time. This

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01:31:42.279 --> 01:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>is what you get. I'm assuming he actually wanted to form,

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01:31:46.479 --> 01:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>but this is what you get. You get, you know,

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01:31:49.720 --> 01:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>from top to bottom, idiots sick of fans running the government. Indeed, yeah,

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01:31:55.680 --> 01:32:00.199
<v Speaker 1>you get lobbyists running you know, the institutions that are

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01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>supposed to keep us safe. Yeah, the regulatory institutions. All

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01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>about money, all about greed, all about power, all about nonsense. Yep,

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01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>oh god, I want the experts in charge again, you know,

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01:32:13.039 --> 01:32:14.039
<v Speaker 1>I miss adults?

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<v Speaker 2>Word up?

1467
01:32:15.159 --> 01:32:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I do. Yeah. This has been your moment of.

1468
01:32:19.159 --> 01:32:23.600
<v Speaker 4>Employ people taking pleasure.

1469
01:32:23.359 --> 01:32:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Real and we're grateful for it.

1470
01:32:27.199 --> 01:32:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Right. Yeah. So that's been more fun stuff, So hopefully

1471
01:32:31.479 --> 01:32:35.279
<v Speaker 1>we'll get to more later. Kids. Do you have a

1472
01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>And I know that you have been telling me you

1473
01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>have had several fifteen minute phaves that have come and

1474
01:32:42.840 --> 01:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>gone since last we sat down to record. Do you

1475
01:32:47.039 --> 01:32:50.479
<v Speaker 1>have a fifteen minute today you would like to share?

1476
01:32:50.960 --> 01:32:55.479
<v Speaker 2>I do, And luckily this one is one that I've

1477
01:32:55.520 --> 01:32:58.399
<v Speaker 2>been holding on to for a while because it keeps

1478
01:32:58.800 --> 01:33:02.000
<v Speaker 2>just living in my head. And now we're in Pride season,

1479
01:33:02.119 --> 01:33:06.159
<v Speaker 2>so it's even more appropriate. I believe I said to

1480
01:33:06.199 --> 01:33:10.239
<v Speaker 2>you when this song came out that it was officially

1481
01:33:10.279 --> 01:33:14.800
<v Speaker 2>the faggottiest thing on the planet, and I found you

1482
01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:16.399
<v Speaker 2>say that.

1483
01:33:17.039 --> 01:33:22.479
<v Speaker 1>It's like there's been a race, so who skipped it

1484
01:33:22.880 --> 01:33:24.119
<v Speaker 1>across the finish line first.

1485
01:33:24.159 --> 01:33:29.159
<v Speaker 2>This week is still holding the top spot in my

1486
01:33:29.239 --> 01:33:32.960
<v Speaker 2>head is a Runway by Lady Gaga in Doci.

1487
01:33:35.960 --> 01:33:39.319
<v Speaker 1>I just you've been dying to talk about this.

1488
01:33:39.520 --> 01:33:42.720
<v Speaker 2>I can't quit this song. It's so fierce, it's so fun,

1489
01:33:43.640 --> 01:33:47.680
<v Speaker 2>it's so faggety, like my wrists just get limper every

1490
01:33:47.680 --> 01:33:56.960
<v Speaker 2>time I listen to it. I always put it on

1491
01:33:57.159 --> 01:34:00.680
<v Speaker 2>first thing when I'm driving to work because it just

1492
01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:04.119
<v Speaker 2>gives me that it's a toss up between this song

1493
01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:06.039
<v Speaker 2>and the County as to which I play first to

1494
01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:09.760
<v Speaker 2>go to work. But we already did the Counties fifty

1495
01:34:09.760 --> 01:34:11.239
<v Speaker 2>minute fave, so we did.

1496
01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>But you know, hey, yeah, shout out.

1497
01:34:16.359 --> 01:34:20.640
<v Speaker 2>So this week is is Runway by Lady Gaga and

1498
01:34:20.760 --> 01:34:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Doci aka the faggetiest song ever.

1499
01:34:24.039 --> 01:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>All Right, we'll be right back, Mahalla play might be

1500
01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:30.039
<v Speaker 1>on time.

1501
01:34:30.239 --> 01:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Just wait on, come on this Papa, little little.

1502
01:34:38.680 --> 01:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Saturday on the front roll swimming.

1503
01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:49.399
<v Speaker 4>Yes, doing sw yes, little know on that girl Monday Sunday,

1504
01:34:49.439 --> 01:34:57.359
<v Speaker 4>I can try to dance angel A runway Monday, Sunday

1505
01:34:58.760 --> 01:34:59.119
<v Speaker 4>Love on.

1506
01:35:04.319 --> 01:35:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Monday.

1507
01:35:07.399 --> 01:35:09.399
<v Speaker 5>I could turn a dance door into a free weeks.

1508
01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:11.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna make broom my bodies on a rat can.

1509
01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:15.000
<v Speaker 5>A man who into a fan camera flashing lights.

1510
01:35:14.720 --> 01:35:17.039
<v Speaker 2>On fucking click click click click everywhere I go.

1511
01:35:17.399 --> 01:35:20.159
<v Speaker 5>Canny can't get me face cart pro never don't see

1512
01:35:20.199 --> 01:35:21.439
<v Speaker 5>me waiting at I don't know.

1513
01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Get out of the way home.

1514
01:35:41.119 --> 01:35:48.319
<v Speaker 1>And we're back. We're back, all right, that's fun. It

1515
01:35:48.479 --> 01:35:51.039
<v Speaker 1>might not be the gayest thing I've ever heard, but yeah,

1516
01:35:51.039 --> 01:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>it's up there.

1517
01:35:51.760 --> 01:35:54.359
<v Speaker 2>I didn't say the gayest, saidagular.

1518
01:35:53.720 --> 01:35:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Faggotyes, you did say that.

1519
01:35:55.239 --> 01:35:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I made that distinction on purpose.

1520
01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>There's a local organization called FAF and h my cousin

1521
01:36:07.920 --> 01:36:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and one of our friends, we have called each other

1522
01:36:10.840 --> 01:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>fasts for a very long time, which means faggotty as

1523
01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:21.039
<v Speaker 1>faggott huh, you know, inside joke. And I can't read

1524
01:36:21.119 --> 01:36:26.039
<v Speaker 1>that and and not think of that. And I don't

1525
01:36:26.079 --> 01:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>know what their achronism Steven stands for, but that's what

1526
01:36:29.640 --> 01:36:30.720
<v Speaker 1>I always here in my head.

1527
01:36:31.840 --> 01:36:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and when you spoke at their pride last year

1528
01:36:36.359 --> 01:36:40.239
<v Speaker 2>and baff was spray painted on all the like stamps

1529
01:36:40.279 --> 01:36:42.239
<v Speaker 2>it on the ground like everywhere, and I was like,

1530
01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:48.560
<v Speaker 2>that's not okay.

1531
01:36:46.279 --> 01:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>They they didn't mean it the way we do it.

1532
01:36:52.600 --> 01:36:54.399
<v Speaker 2>And then I was like, wait, wait, wait, that can't

1533
01:36:54.399 --> 01:36:56.319
<v Speaker 2>be with it. Let me go ask them what does

1534
01:36:56.359 --> 01:37:00.640
<v Speaker 2>that mean? And they say what it was like, oh okay.

1535
01:37:02.840 --> 01:37:06.199
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean what it has always meant to us

1536
01:37:07.560 --> 01:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>at all.

1537
01:37:09.600 --> 01:37:11.960
<v Speaker 2>It was and it was in rainbow colors. I was like,

1538
01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:13.399
<v Speaker 2>who did you know?

1539
01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Right? You thought my cousin was there earlier? Right now?

1540
01:37:18.520 --> 01:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>A he wouldn't put out that effort. He's he supports me. Nope,

1541
01:37:28.159 --> 01:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh good god. So you know, in honor of Pride month,

1542
01:37:33.159 --> 01:37:36.560
<v Speaker 1>fuck the cavalcade. You know, there's a bunch of stories

1543
01:37:36.640 --> 01:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>we could talk about.

1544
01:37:38.039 --> 01:37:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to You are not going to get

1545
01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:40.239
<v Speaker 2>an argument out of me.

1546
01:37:40.399 --> 01:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to know. There is always nonsense. There's

1547
01:37:43.520 --> 01:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>always going to be. Nobody said the board, nobody said

1548
01:37:46.720 --> 01:37:49.199
<v Speaker 1>the patriarchy was going to go down without a fight.

1549
01:37:49.359 --> 01:37:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Word keep on fighting indeed. So yeah, look we're gonna

1550
01:37:53.920 --> 01:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna move right on. And pop culture yeay, let's

1551
01:37:59.359 --> 01:38:07.079
<v Speaker 1>let's the culture that hurts with a nail. That's the

1552
01:38:07.119 --> 01:38:10.039
<v Speaker 1>official sound effect that might be Yeah, if it picked

1553
01:38:10.039 --> 01:38:14.680
<v Speaker 1>it up, so Madonna. Yeah.

1554
01:38:14.840 --> 01:38:18.279
<v Speaker 2>So, in honor of Pride kicking off, all.

1555
01:38:18.279 --> 01:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Right over there, I'm fine, Okay.

1556
01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:24.119
<v Speaker 2>In honor of Pride kicking off, Madonna did a little

1557
01:38:24.159 --> 01:38:30.560
<v Speaker 2>pop up surprise concert in Times Square. Cool. Yeah. So her,

1558
01:38:30.760 --> 01:38:34.279
<v Speaker 2>she's got a Grinder. Yeah, she's got a new album

1559
01:38:34.319 --> 01:38:40.039
<v Speaker 2>coming out, and it's Confessions Too, which I'm actually looking

1560
01:38:40.039 --> 01:38:42.399
<v Speaker 2>forward to because Confessions one was fierce. It was like

1561
01:38:42.840 --> 01:38:52.439
<v Speaker 2>a continuous bunch of nineties house style songs and Confessions

1562
01:38:52.479 --> 01:38:54.279
<v Speaker 2>on the dance floor of the album was called and

1563
01:38:54.359 --> 01:38:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I love that album. So I'm looking forward to Confessions Too.

1564
01:38:57.279 --> 01:39:02.880
<v Speaker 2>And she has been proming this album. It's in collaboration

1565
01:39:02.920 --> 01:39:06.000
<v Speaker 2>with Grinder. In fact, the announcement that the album was

1566
01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:13.199
<v Speaker 2>coming out was announced on Grinder. That's amazing thereby letting

1567
01:39:13.239 --> 01:39:15.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot of girlfriends know what their boyfriends have been

1568
01:39:15.800 --> 01:39:19.680
<v Speaker 2>up to because all of a sudden, their man's phone

1569
01:39:19.800 --> 01:39:26.600
<v Speaker 2>is got Madonna's screaming at him. Oh hey, bitch.

1570
01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. She's been lurking on Grinder, issuing limited edition vinyl

1571
01:39:34.960 --> 01:39:38.760
<v Speaker 1>versions of her new album Confessions to via the app,

1572
01:39:38.800 --> 01:39:42.399
<v Speaker 1>and taking part in exclusive interviews.

1573
01:39:42.640 --> 01:39:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Go where the audience.

1574
01:39:43.720 --> 01:39:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Is hey, at least some of it. The latest installment

1575
01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:53.319
<v Speaker 1>of the campaign took place this past Thursday. Friend yep

1576
01:39:53.920 --> 01:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Grinder warned users for the previous twenty four hours that

1577
01:39:57.039 --> 01:40:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Madonna would be live streaming on the app. What it

1578
01:40:00.359 --> 01:40:04.359
<v Speaker 1>did not reveal until nearer the hour was that the

1579
01:40:04.439 --> 01:40:08.439
<v Speaker 1>live stream would be a surprise pop up concert live

1580
01:40:08.680 --> 01:40:12.760
<v Speaker 1>from Times Square. Got six thirty yep, fun.

1581
01:40:13.359 --> 01:40:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Do you see this picture?

1582
01:40:15.720 --> 01:40:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Fun?

1583
01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:17.520
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of gaze.

1584
01:40:18.199 --> 01:40:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, that's a whole lot of gaze. It was

1585
01:40:23.119 --> 01:40:27.119
<v Speaker 1>an eighteen minute show. She treated the audience to three

1586
01:40:27.279 --> 01:40:30.760
<v Speaker 1>tracks from her new album, which is out on July third,

1587
01:40:31.079 --> 01:40:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and three from the original Confessions on the Dance Floor album,

1588
01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>So they got six songs and she wished the crowd

1589
01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:42.159
<v Speaker 1>happy Pride.

1590
01:40:42.359 --> 01:40:45.439
<v Speaker 2>And luckily there was no way for her to blast

1591
01:40:45.479 --> 01:40:49.119
<v Speaker 2>the heat on all of Times Square and show up

1592
01:40:49.159 --> 01:40:50.880
<v Speaker 2>three hours late by doing so.

1593
01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:55.399
<v Speaker 1>Now, apparently this one was on time right, or it

1594
01:40:55.479 --> 01:40:57.359
<v Speaker 1>was originally going to be three thirty and when they

1595
01:40:57.399 --> 01:41:00.079
<v Speaker 1>finally realized she was walking to the stage right. I

1596
01:41:00.119 --> 01:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Anyway, that was fun, fun for Pride cools.

1597
01:41:06.760 --> 01:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>She is still doing the thing she is. I'm I'm

1598
01:41:12.039 --> 01:41:14.720
<v Speaker 1>you know. Whenever we have that argument about Gaga where

1599
01:41:14.880 --> 01:41:18.439
<v Speaker 1>I am. I'm pro Gaga, But you know Madonna. I

1600
01:41:18.439 --> 01:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>have been around alive long enough to watch Madonna's entire

1601
01:41:22.079 --> 01:41:26.279
<v Speaker 1>rise to fame, and she is a phenomenal business woman.

1602
01:41:26.560 --> 01:41:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that no argument.

1603
01:41:28.840 --> 01:41:33.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I hear she thinks that was me. I

1604
01:41:33.800 --> 01:41:36.039
<v Speaker 1>There are so many Madonna's songs I love. They're part

1605
01:41:36.079 --> 01:41:37.119
<v Speaker 1>of the vernacular.

1606
01:41:37.319 --> 01:41:40.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love Madonna. There was there's a chunk of

1607
01:41:40.359 --> 01:41:44.159
<v Speaker 2>her career that I was side eyeing her only because

1608
01:41:45.039 --> 01:41:47.319
<v Speaker 2>like some of the stuff she was doing was just

1609
01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:51.000
<v Speaker 2>wreaking of like desperation for relevance, and I'm like, you're

1610
01:41:51.039 --> 01:41:53.479
<v Speaker 2>already Madonna, you don't mean to do that, baby.

1611
01:41:53.560 --> 01:41:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that.

1612
01:41:54.399 --> 01:41:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Plus, I wasn't crazy about a lot of her newer music,

1613
01:41:59.800 --> 01:42:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I hear you, what did I say about one album?

1614
01:42:02.640 --> 01:42:06.640
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this album sounds like all the songs

1615
01:42:06.640 --> 01:42:09.399
<v Speaker 2>that I would have skipped on her other album just

1616
01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:11.039
<v Speaker 2>lumped together as one album.

1617
01:42:11.319 --> 01:42:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but she.

1618
01:42:13.159 --> 01:42:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Also has stuff I like, so you know.

1619
01:42:15.159 --> 01:42:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, yeah, she's Madonna.

1620
01:42:18.359 --> 01:42:20.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm not there's I'm always going to be a fan

1621
01:42:20.319 --> 01:42:20.720
<v Speaker 2>of Madonna.

1622
01:42:20.840 --> 01:42:23.279
<v Speaker 1>I skipped a cavalcade. I'm not going to be the cavalcade.

1623
01:42:25.520 --> 01:42:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Enough already, but yeah, cool, that was a cool event.

1624
01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:31.039
<v Speaker 1>And apparently yeah, happened the same day she said it would,

1625
01:42:31.239 --> 01:42:33.880
<v Speaker 1>unlike some of her concerts, what.

1626
01:42:33.920 --> 01:42:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Happens on the same day, just not the same part

1627
01:42:36.720 --> 01:42:37.960
<v Speaker 2>of the day.

1628
01:42:38.720 --> 01:42:44.079
<v Speaker 1>Right, right? What did she start that one show? Was

1629
01:42:44.079 --> 01:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>at seven thirty eight o'clock. I was supposed to start

1630
01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it with somewhere after eleven pm, huh and yeah, and

1631
01:42:50.439 --> 01:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the audience was baking.

1632
01:42:52.399 --> 01:42:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's especially up high.

1633
01:42:54.640 --> 01:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>And it stands because heat rises.

1634
01:42:57.039 --> 01:43:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, those of us that are at

1635
01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>this concert are have been there for her for a while,

1636
01:43:05.960 --> 01:43:08.520
<v Speaker 2>a good portion of our lives. So we're a little

1637
01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:11.199
<v Speaker 2>older now and we're like we got to go to

1638
01:43:11.279 --> 01:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>work in the morning, and shit, we we only had

1639
01:43:14.079 --> 01:43:19.760
<v Speaker 2>childcare up and I know, yeah.

1640
01:43:18.359 --> 01:43:20.279
<v Speaker 1>It was crazy because friends of ours went and they

1641
01:43:20.279 --> 01:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>were like dying up in the stands. Yeah, but they're

1642
01:43:22.680 --> 01:43:25.800
<v Speaker 1>die hard fans, and you know, I can't stand that.

1643
01:43:26.319 --> 01:43:29.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, who was on time? Share And if share

1644
01:43:29.199 --> 01:43:32.359
<v Speaker 1>can be on time, yeah, everyone can be on time

1645
01:43:32.600 --> 01:43:33.720
<v Speaker 1>to I'm just saying.

1646
01:43:33.439 --> 01:43:36.039
<v Speaker 2>To the motherfucking second. Yes, we were still on the

1647
01:43:36.119 --> 01:43:38.560
<v Speaker 2>escalator going to our seat when we heard the first song.

1648
01:43:38.600 --> 01:43:42.439
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, shit. Yeah, well no, Well, Cindy Lauper,

1649
01:43:42.439 --> 01:43:43.920
<v Speaker 2>who's Cdy Lauper.

1650
01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:47.039
<v Speaker 1>Was already on because she was on time, and then

1651
01:43:47.119 --> 01:43:49.399
<v Speaker 1>so was Share following her. I did not hold the curtain.

1652
01:43:49.680 --> 01:43:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Curtain was eleven o'clock and it was seven oh two.

1653
01:43:52.319 --> 01:43:54.520
<v Speaker 2>We're like, oh, she's got time to get to our

1654
01:43:55.159 --> 01:43:58.359
<v Speaker 2>Both of those legends didn't even give us time to

1655
01:43:58.359 --> 01:43:59.039
<v Speaker 2>get to our seats.

1656
01:43:59.119 --> 01:44:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, so, yeah, whatever, but yeah, cool, it's cool.

1657
01:44:04.159 --> 01:44:06.640
<v Speaker 1>It's pop culture. That's what we're here for right now,

1658
01:44:06.960 --> 01:44:10.720
<v Speaker 1>is pop culture. Why am I having? What was I reading?

1659
01:44:10.760 --> 01:44:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I've read it to you the other day and it

1660
01:44:12.600 --> 01:44:16.840
<v Speaker 1>was some dude crowing about being an alpha male and

1661
01:44:17.159 --> 01:44:21.159
<v Speaker 1>a woman commented, you know, one man's alpha male is

1662
01:44:21.199 --> 01:44:26.920
<v Speaker 1>another woman's pretty pretty princess. And I don't know why

1663
01:44:26.920 --> 01:44:29.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about that now, but it just seemed to fit.

1664
01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:36.399
<v Speaker 1>Christopher Maloney says an emotional goodbye to Stabler. Yeah, and

1665
01:44:36.760 --> 01:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Law and Order Organized Crime. It was a great ride.

1666
01:44:39.880 --> 01:44:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I sw I know you did, and I love him.

1667
01:44:43.960 --> 01:44:46.199
<v Speaker 1>He's done. What did we just watched last night?

1668
01:44:46.239 --> 01:44:48.800
<v Speaker 2>We just watched you finally saw Bound.

1669
01:44:48.840 --> 01:44:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I finally saw it because we did sign up for

1670
01:44:51.680 --> 01:44:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Canopy yes, God bless our local library. And there's some

1671
01:44:56.279 --> 01:44:57.479
<v Speaker 1>great shit on canopy.

1672
01:44:57.560 --> 01:44:58.239
<v Speaker 2>It's free.

1673
01:44:58.359 --> 01:45:00.760
<v Speaker 1>All you need is a library car and you get

1674
01:45:01.159 --> 01:45:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, twelve points a month, sixteen sixteen points

1675
01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a month, which is about eight movies.

1676
01:45:06.760 --> 01:45:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, most movies. Most things are two tickets, which means.

1677
01:45:09.720 --> 01:45:10.720
<v Speaker 1>We each get eight.

1678
01:45:11.039 --> 01:45:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

1679
01:45:11.680 --> 01:45:13.560
<v Speaker 1>And so we were looking for a movie to watch

1680
01:45:13.640 --> 01:45:17.199
<v Speaker 1>last night, and Bound came up and it was it

1681
01:45:17.319 --> 01:45:19.560
<v Speaker 1>is the Wakowski Sisters first.

1682
01:45:19.960 --> 01:45:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, their first theatrical release.

1683
01:45:22.039 --> 01:45:23.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, really good.

1684
01:45:23.439 --> 01:45:26.000
<v Speaker 2>And I love that you had never seen it before.

1685
01:45:26.039 --> 01:45:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yes, I get to watch you watch this

1686
01:45:27.840 --> 01:45:28.439
<v Speaker 2>for the first time.

1687
01:45:28.479 --> 01:45:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I have never seen it before. And a very young

1688
01:45:32.119 --> 01:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Christopher maloneous Yes, plays a central.

1689
01:45:34.680 --> 01:45:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Character who I completely forgot about.

1690
01:45:37.039 --> 01:45:40.960
<v Speaker 1>He has played some crazy fuckers over time. He can

1691
01:45:41.000 --> 01:45:43.920
<v Speaker 1>bring that energy. God knows, it's the same energy he

1692
01:45:43.960 --> 01:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>brought to Oz.

1693
01:45:47.119 --> 01:45:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1694
01:45:48.119 --> 01:45:50.880
<v Speaker 1>But he also was Stabler for so many years. And

1695
01:45:50.920 --> 01:45:53.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm a huge just for you fan, and

1696
01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I really liked Organized Crime, yeah, where he was the

1697
01:45:57.359 --> 01:46:03.199
<v Speaker 1>central character. He debuted the hot headed detective character almost

1698
01:46:03.640 --> 01:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>thirty years ago.

1699
01:46:05.119 --> 01:46:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that sounds right.

1700
01:46:06.239 --> 01:46:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So he is sharing an emotional goodbye to detective

1701
01:46:11.039 --> 01:46:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Elliott Stabler. This show was canceled on Thursday after five seasons,

1702
01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>so for now this is it. Yeah. He began in

1703
01:46:22.720 --> 01:46:26.479
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety nine in Law and Order Special Victims Unit,

1704
01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:29.199
<v Speaker 1>premiered three years after Bound.

1705
01:46:30.359 --> 01:46:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1706
01:46:31.960 --> 01:46:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's sad, he said. I just saw that

1707
01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:42.159
<v Speaker 1>they announced Organized Crime won't be coming back. So I

1708
01:46:42.199 --> 01:46:44.600
<v Speaker 1>wanted to take this moment to say thank you to

1709
01:46:44.680 --> 01:46:47.359
<v Speaker 1>the fans who not only helped give the character of

1710
01:46:47.359 --> 01:46:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Elliott Stabler life and longevity, but for sticking with him

1711
01:46:51.279 --> 01:46:53.159
<v Speaker 1>and welcoming him back.

1712
01:46:53.960 --> 01:46:57.399
<v Speaker 2>He and a bunch of fellow s few co stars

1713
01:46:57.439 --> 01:47:00.640
<v Speaker 2>went to see Marishka Hargate on Broadway.

1714
01:47:00.960 --> 01:47:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh I love that.

1715
01:47:02.279 --> 01:47:05.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I made her Broadway debut this year.

1716
01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:10.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in something that Excellent Things or exquisite Things or

1717
01:47:10.479 --> 01:47:13.479
<v Speaker 1>every excellent something. I don't know the title of it.

1718
01:47:13.600 --> 01:47:17.119
<v Speaker 1>I just read that she's killing it, but I love that.

1719
01:47:17.199 --> 01:47:20.880
<v Speaker 1>They all want to see her every brilliant thing, every

1720
01:47:20.920 --> 01:47:24.920
<v Speaker 1>brilliant thing. That's it. Yes, and they were. They were

1721
01:47:26.399 --> 01:47:32.399
<v Speaker 1>incredible together. They created you know, the duo for all

1722
01:47:32.439 --> 01:47:33.479
<v Speaker 1>those years.

1723
01:47:33.279 --> 01:47:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Did Benson and Stabler ever actually do it? No, damn it.

1724
01:47:38.319 --> 01:47:42.520
<v Speaker 1>They were the beloved partnership of the Law and Order universe,

1725
01:47:43.960 --> 01:47:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and that dynamic was suddenly ripped away when he departed

1726
01:47:46.760 --> 01:47:50.800
<v Speaker 1>SVU in twenty eleven. He eventually reprised the role with

1727
01:47:50.920 --> 01:47:55.199
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty one launch of Organized Crime, which found

1728
01:47:55.239 --> 01:47:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Stabler coming back to the force and working to bring

1729
01:47:58.119 --> 01:48:03.239
<v Speaker 1>down New York's most dangerous organized crime syndicates. And it

1730
01:48:04.399 --> 01:48:08.880
<v Speaker 1>moved from Peacock for season five, and the cancelation news

1731
01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:12.039
<v Speaker 1>is less than surprising, considering it's been almost a year

1732
01:48:12.119 --> 01:48:15.720
<v Speaker 1>since the Now series finale and.

1733
01:48:15.680 --> 01:48:18.399
<v Speaker 2>The most recent season moved. Where did it go to?

1734
01:48:19.760 --> 01:48:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I forget remember how it still was able to watch

1735
01:48:22.960 --> 01:48:24.640
<v Speaker 1>because they because they were able to curse.

1736
01:48:25.119 --> 01:48:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it it got a little someone said fucking and we.

1737
01:48:28.119 --> 01:48:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Were like wait, wait, wait what Yeah, when it moved,

1738
01:48:30.680 --> 01:48:35.760
<v Speaker 1>but you know, for a season. But yeah, it's so okay. Hey,

1739
01:48:36.680 --> 01:48:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean you know, I he was off of SBU

1740
01:48:41.399 --> 01:48:44.720
<v Speaker 1>for ten years, came back, we got five seasons, lovely,

1741
01:48:44.920 --> 01:48:47.680
<v Speaker 1>it was great end of an era. Yeah, and he

1742
01:48:47.760 --> 01:48:49.840
<v Speaker 1>is a versial actor. I mean, he's going to be

1743
01:48:49.880 --> 01:48:52.720
<v Speaker 1>out there. He's not just Stabler. We know him for

1744
01:48:52.840 --> 01:48:54.840
<v Speaker 1>other things and we'll The thing.

1745
01:48:54.720 --> 01:48:58.279
<v Speaker 2>About organized Crime, though, is like, okay, how often can

1746
01:48:58.359 --> 01:49:01.000
<v Speaker 2>this dude go completely under because he has a very

1747
01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:04.399
<v Speaker 2>distinctive look and so many places you can.

1748
01:49:04.239 --> 01:49:07.479
<v Speaker 1>Do they not know. That's how do they not know?

1749
01:49:07.680 --> 01:49:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Look for the scruff daddy.

1750
01:49:11.600 --> 01:49:16.439
<v Speaker 1>We saw all of him in OZ. That was fun. Anyway,

1751
01:49:17.199 --> 01:49:18.920
<v Speaker 1>what's next? Returning tonight?

1752
01:49:19.359 --> 01:49:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, interview with the Vampire new season. It's coming

1753
01:49:22.359 --> 01:49:27.079
<v Speaker 2>on tonight and they are doing the vampireless stat And

1754
01:49:27.119 --> 01:49:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I am very, very very excited. I can tell because

1755
01:49:31.560 --> 01:49:36.039
<v Speaker 2>that's like my favorite portion of the storyline where he's

1756
01:49:36.199 --> 01:49:40.560
<v Speaker 2>a rock star. He goes into the ground for however long,

1757
01:49:40.600 --> 01:49:43.000
<v Speaker 2>however many hundred years, and then like music wakes him

1758
01:49:43.079 --> 01:49:44.720
<v Speaker 2>up and he's like, oh, what's that?

1759
01:49:44.760 --> 01:49:45.439
<v Speaker 1>And then he decides to.

1760
01:49:45.479 --> 01:49:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Be a rock star and his bad ass ory just

1761
01:49:49.159 --> 01:49:54.359
<v Speaker 2>just just levels up. Okay, and you've seen the actor

1762
01:49:54.439 --> 01:49:57.720
<v Speaker 2>that plays the stat. Yes, so there's going to be

1763
01:49:57.720 --> 01:50:00.359
<v Speaker 2>a lot of him shirtless, wearing leather something.

1764
01:50:00.720 --> 01:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>So just so you know that's something if you're really committed,

1765
01:50:05.680 --> 01:50:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you'll do full front.

1766
01:50:08.439 --> 01:50:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Just think I would not put it past them.

1767
01:50:10.920 --> 01:50:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well you'll let me know you're gonna watch it too.

1768
01:50:15.560 --> 01:50:21.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, Yeah, I don't don't front, Okay, I just I

1769
01:50:21.239 --> 01:50:23.720
<v Speaker 2>love well because you know, I love how they lean

1770
01:50:23.840 --> 01:50:27.279
<v Speaker 2>into the gayness of the source material. They they didn't

1771
01:50:27.359 --> 01:50:30.079
<v Speaker 2>try to straightwash it like the fucking movie.

1772
01:50:30.199 --> 01:50:32.039
<v Speaker 1>So it's true and I love that.

1773
01:50:32.279 --> 01:50:37.159
<v Speaker 2>So this season's gonna be good. What else we got,

1774
01:50:37.359 --> 01:50:40.600
<v Speaker 2>We went on a Marlin Riggs down a rabbit hole.

1775
01:50:42.119 --> 01:50:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I discovered that Tongues Untied was on a canopy.

1776
01:50:46.640 --> 01:50:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

1777
01:50:47.159 --> 01:50:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Tongues Untied was the seminal piece of black queer cinema

1778
01:50:54.039 --> 01:50:58.239
<v Speaker 2>from nineteen eighty nine, uh, directed and written by Marlon Riggs.

1779
01:50:58.239 --> 01:51:01.960
<v Speaker 2>And it was not so much off film as it

1780
01:51:02.039 --> 01:51:04.920
<v Speaker 2>was like I'm not even sure how you It was

1781
01:51:04.960 --> 01:51:08.239
<v Speaker 2>like a piece I believe is what I called it.

1782
01:51:08.239 --> 01:51:12.680
<v Speaker 2>It was a piece because there's art, yeah, exactly, because

1783
01:51:12.720 --> 01:51:15.960
<v Speaker 2>there was like poetry and spoken word and sound effects

1784
01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:20.680
<v Speaker 2>and essays and imagery. But it all centered around the

1785
01:51:20.800 --> 01:51:27.199
<v Speaker 2>various aspects of black gayness, black male gayness in the

1786
01:51:27.279 --> 01:51:30.279
<v Speaker 2>late eighties early nineties. And it was one of those

1787
01:51:30.319 --> 01:51:32.960
<v Speaker 2>things that like I never got to see when it

1788
01:51:33.079 --> 01:51:38.119
<v Speaker 2>was out, just because you know, when it came out,

1789
01:51:38.159 --> 01:51:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't in that place, and then I couldn't find

1790
01:51:41.560 --> 01:51:46.159
<v Speaker 2>it anywhere. And when we interviewed John S. Garrison on

1791
01:51:46.199 --> 01:51:50.399
<v Speaker 2>the podcast about red, Hot, and blue. There were several

1792
01:51:50.439 --> 01:51:54.760
<v Speaker 2>references to tongues untied, and that put it back in

1793
01:51:54.800 --> 01:51:56.560
<v Speaker 2>my brain and I was like, I never saw that.

1794
01:51:57.079 --> 01:52:01.960
<v Speaker 2>So we got to see that on canopy then, you know,

1795
01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:03.399
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, if you like that, then you

1796
01:52:03.479 --> 01:52:06.479
<v Speaker 2>probably like this. And that took us to a Color Correction,

1797
01:52:07.119 --> 01:52:11.880
<v Speaker 2>which was his documentary about the representation of black people

1798
01:52:11.880 --> 01:52:15.800
<v Speaker 2>in television. So it took us through from Amos and

1799
01:52:15.800 --> 01:52:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Andy to the most recent show at the time, which

1800
01:52:19.560 --> 01:52:23.239
<v Speaker 2>was The Cosby Show at least, and that was good.

1801
01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was.

1802
01:52:25.119 --> 01:52:26.760
<v Speaker 2>And there's still a few other things of his that

1803
01:52:26.800 --> 01:52:29.079
<v Speaker 2>we are on our list that we have to watch.

1804
01:52:30.079 --> 01:52:35.800
<v Speaker 2>We've been sitting and watching The Black Scholars lately in

1805
01:52:35.880 --> 01:52:39.840
<v Speaker 2>our free time, you and I. Yeah, we have, and

1806
01:52:39.880 --> 01:52:42.279
<v Speaker 2>I've been enjoying it. It's been very cool, a very

1807
01:52:42.279 --> 01:52:43.520
<v Speaker 2>cool way to spend our time.

1808
01:52:44.159 --> 01:52:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how much of that, I mean, because we

1809
01:52:46.680 --> 01:52:49.199
<v Speaker 1>talked about the Harlem Renaissance. Of course, when we were

1810
01:52:50.640 --> 01:52:53.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about ain't misbehaving and oh yea yeah, I saw

1811
01:52:53.079 --> 01:52:55.039
<v Speaker 1>the piece and you know, so maybe it's all just

1812
01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:01.119
<v Speaker 1>connected plus white people going to white and sometimes you

1813
01:53:01.119 --> 01:53:03.039
<v Speaker 1>need to break my listener.

1814
01:53:04.079 --> 01:53:05.960
<v Speaker 2>We watched a lot of We've been watching a lot

1815
01:53:06.000 --> 01:53:11.159
<v Speaker 2>of of content surrounding James Baldwin. Yes, we watched I'm

1816
01:53:11.159 --> 01:53:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Not Your Negro, which is a fabulous film centered around

1817
01:53:18.199 --> 01:53:22.199
<v Speaker 2>his I watched it again, Yeah, sent around his words,

1818
01:53:22.640 --> 01:53:26.880
<v Speaker 2>his writing, narrated by Samuel L. Jackson, And we found

1819
01:53:26.960 --> 01:53:31.720
<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of interviews, yeah, with James Baldwin, and

1820
01:53:31.840 --> 01:53:38.600
<v Speaker 2>just like televised conversations, notably like him and My Angelou.

1821
01:53:39.119 --> 01:53:41.720
<v Speaker 2>They had a wonderful conversation that we watched.

1822
01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, and that was, you know, the other thing that

1823
01:53:44.359 --> 01:53:47.399
<v Speaker 1>was happening. I was researching for the talk I gave

1824
01:53:47.640 --> 01:53:50.760
<v Speaker 1>in early May Yes, which is on our website that

1825
01:53:50.840 --> 01:53:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I called lies, damn lies and statistics. Yes, and you

1826
01:53:55.760 --> 01:54:00.760
<v Speaker 1>know I can't. That research took me right back to

1827
01:54:01.279 --> 01:54:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of Maya's work and some of

1828
01:54:03.439 --> 01:54:08.399
<v Speaker 1>James Baldwin and yeah, brought me right back into Yeah.

1829
01:54:08.000 --> 01:54:12.039
<v Speaker 2>And it got me back into the mood to revisit

1830
01:54:12.079 --> 01:54:15.319
<v Speaker 2>his writing because we have so much of it. And

1831
01:54:15.359 --> 01:54:17.680
<v Speaker 2>then there was others that we didn't. So I've been

1832
01:54:17.960 --> 01:54:21.079
<v Speaker 2>getting more stuff. And one of the ones that stood

1833
01:54:21.119 --> 01:54:23.399
<v Speaker 2>out to me, one of the conversations we watched that

1834
01:54:23.520 --> 01:54:27.600
<v Speaker 2>so to me was the interview, he was in Paris

1835
01:54:28.039 --> 01:54:31.439
<v Speaker 2>and it was the British film crew that wanted to

1836
01:54:31.520 --> 01:54:34.840
<v Speaker 2>talk to him about his work, and he was just

1837
01:54:34.880 --> 01:54:38.479
<v Speaker 2>in a place and a mood he was in. Yeah,

1838
01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:40.680
<v Speaker 2>he did not want to talk about himself. He wanted

1839
01:54:40.720 --> 01:54:44.000
<v Speaker 2>to talk about like the oppression of black people that

1840
01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:46.119
<v Speaker 2>was happening in the States, and that's why he was

1841
01:54:46.159 --> 01:54:51.319
<v Speaker 2>in Paris and like, so he re routed the entire

1842
01:54:51.680 --> 01:54:56.680
<v Speaker 2>project and it led to him and a bunch of

1843
01:54:56.720 --> 01:55:00.520
<v Speaker 2>young black students that he had met in Paris, and

1844
01:55:00.520 --> 01:55:04.520
<v Speaker 2>then they had this roundtable discussion about art and race

1845
01:55:04.760 --> 01:55:10.720
<v Speaker 2>and identity and it was brilliant. And I've been loving that.

1846
01:55:10.720 --> 01:55:14.520
<v Speaker 2>That's how we've been spending our time when we weren't

1847
01:55:14.560 --> 01:55:15.880
<v Speaker 2>watching movies and TV.

1848
01:55:17.039 --> 01:55:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Also also Soft and Quiet.

1849
01:55:21.760 --> 01:55:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, damn it. So I am a fan of

1850
01:55:27.520 --> 01:55:32.079
<v Speaker 2>another podcast called Girl That's Scary, and it's these two

1851
01:55:32.119 --> 01:55:36.479
<v Speaker 2>black women who talk about horror movies. I love them

1852
01:55:36.479 --> 01:55:39.800
<v Speaker 2>so much. And they had mentioned offhandedly a film called

1853
01:55:39.880 --> 01:55:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Soft and Quiet, and I was like, huh, what's that about?

1854
01:55:43.760 --> 01:55:45.760
<v Speaker 2>So I went and read the description and I was like,

1855
01:55:45.760 --> 01:55:46.640
<v Speaker 2>this is intriguing.

1856
01:55:47.119 --> 01:55:48.039
<v Speaker 1>And so I.

1857
01:55:48.039 --> 01:55:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Found the movie and I watched it and chaw, I

1858
01:55:51.239 --> 01:55:52.960
<v Speaker 2>just want to know who the fuck this film is for.

1859
01:55:54.000 --> 01:55:59.359
<v Speaker 2>So Soft and Quiet is a film came up with

1860
01:55:59.520 --> 01:56:03.439
<v Speaker 2>the past five, six, seven years, and it opens with

1861
01:56:03.520 --> 01:56:06.520
<v Speaker 2>this white woman. She is walking to pick up her

1862
01:56:06.520 --> 01:56:09.640
<v Speaker 2>son from school. She's carrying a pie and then she

1863
01:56:09.720 --> 01:56:11.920
<v Speaker 2>drops him off and then she goes to this meeting

1864
01:56:12.039 --> 01:56:15.960
<v Speaker 2>where these other little white women are and it's the

1865
01:56:15.960 --> 01:56:18.079
<v Speaker 2>first meeting of this little group that they decided to

1866
01:56:18.119 --> 01:56:20.680
<v Speaker 2>put together. And she was like, I brought pie, and

1867
01:56:20.680 --> 01:56:23.039
<v Speaker 2>then she puts the pie down, she takes the foil

1868
01:56:22.720 --> 01:56:26.840
<v Speaker 2>off the pie. Is the fucking swastika baked into the

1869
01:56:26.840 --> 01:56:30.399
<v Speaker 2>cross of the pie. It's a fucking meeting for neo

1870
01:56:30.479 --> 01:56:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Nazi women. And like the whole thing is like, you know,

1871
01:56:33.760 --> 01:56:36.199
<v Speaker 2>where the women and we move softly and quietly in

1872
01:56:36.239 --> 01:56:38.119
<v Speaker 2>ways that our men can so we can get our

1873
01:56:38.119 --> 01:56:41.119
<v Speaker 2>message across. And then the whole thing just went left.

1874
01:56:41.239 --> 01:56:42.920
<v Speaker 2>That's the best way I can describe it. And by

1875
01:56:42.960 --> 01:56:45.880
<v Speaker 2>the time it was done, I was like, goddamn, that

1876
01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:49.359
<v Speaker 2>was fucked up? And who was this four? Because it

1877
01:56:49.439 --> 01:56:53.239
<v Speaker 2>wasn't for me, it wasn't for nobody black. You ain't

1878
01:56:53.279 --> 01:56:59.119
<v Speaker 2>teaching nobody white nothing. White women are fucked up too. Yeah,

1879
01:56:59.159 --> 01:57:01.720
<v Speaker 2>we knew that like it.

1880
01:57:03.680 --> 01:57:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Till the oldest.

1881
01:57:05.479 --> 01:57:09.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying I didn't like it. I didn't like it,

1882
01:57:09.079 --> 01:57:09.479
<v Speaker 2>that's not.

1883
01:57:13.079 --> 01:57:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But when you're wondering why something was made, yeah

1884
01:57:16.479 --> 01:57:18.720
<v Speaker 1>I did. Because they didn't know who their audience was.

1885
01:57:18.920 --> 01:57:21.840
<v Speaker 2>And the ending was was supposed, I guess, supposed to

1886
01:57:21.880 --> 01:57:24.520
<v Speaker 2>give us some hope, but it's like there was no

1887
01:57:24.600 --> 01:57:27.920
<v Speaker 2>hope because of everything that happened before. Somebody need I

1888
01:57:27.960 --> 01:57:31.119
<v Speaker 2>needed to like ask some questions like what the fuck?

1889
01:57:33.199 --> 01:57:37.600
<v Speaker 2>So well, I understand why the ladies of Girl That's

1890
01:57:37.600 --> 01:57:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Scary mentioned the movie and the tone of voice that

1891
01:57:40.720 --> 01:57:41.199
<v Speaker 2>they did.

1892
01:57:41.720 --> 01:57:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you at least get that I do.

1893
01:57:45.960 --> 01:57:48.560
<v Speaker 2>So Yeah, Invincible had a new season and it was

1894
01:57:48.560 --> 01:57:52.159
<v Speaker 2>like four episodes in before I even knew that there

1895
01:57:52.199 --> 01:57:54.680
<v Speaker 2>was a new season. I'm like, no one was gonna

1896
01:57:54.720 --> 01:57:58.479
<v Speaker 2>fucking tell me shit. And so I caught the new season.

1897
01:57:58.520 --> 01:58:01.479
<v Speaker 2>It was real, real good. And that show is so

1898
01:58:01.760 --> 01:58:05.199
<v Speaker 2>like raw and violent and but that's why we love it.

1899
01:58:06.359 --> 01:58:08.800
<v Speaker 2>And the whole thing is like, you know, if you

1900
01:58:08.880 --> 01:58:14.800
<v Speaker 2>have power, like how does that power define you? You know,

1901
01:58:14.840 --> 01:58:18.560
<v Speaker 2>and what is your responsibility in wielding that power? And

1902
01:58:18.880 --> 01:58:23.720
<v Speaker 2>if you misuse that power and you want to atone.

1903
01:58:24.039 --> 01:58:29.439
<v Speaker 2>There's a racial parallel. It's like the immediate parallel will

1904
01:58:29.479 --> 01:58:32.680
<v Speaker 2>be like these Maga people who are seeing the error

1905
01:58:32.680 --> 01:58:35.399
<v Speaker 2>of their ways and then wanting to atone for what

1906
01:58:35.479 --> 01:58:38.880
<v Speaker 2>they did. You have to accept the fact that a

1907
01:58:38.920 --> 01:58:41.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of the people that you hurt don't give a

1908
01:58:41.279 --> 01:58:46.199
<v Speaker 2>fuck that you're sorry, And in order for you to

1909
01:58:46.520 --> 01:58:51.680
<v Speaker 2>get any semblance of reconciliation, you're going to have to

1910
01:58:52.119 --> 01:58:56.119
<v Speaker 2>put at least as much time into making up for

1911
01:58:56.199 --> 01:58:59.920
<v Speaker 2>what you did as the offenses that you made right,

1912
01:59:00.359 --> 01:59:02.880
<v Speaker 2>you know. And there's an element of that in this

1913
01:59:02.960 --> 01:59:05.399
<v Speaker 2>past season of Invincible. I am glad that I was

1914
01:59:05.399 --> 01:59:11.039
<v Speaker 2>made aware. It's on It's on Amazon Prime. It is

1915
01:59:11.079 --> 01:59:15.960
<v Speaker 2>an animated series, season four. It's based on a comic book. Basically,

1916
01:59:16.000 --> 01:59:22.119
<v Speaker 2>it's about superheroes, and there's this one character, Ultra Uh

1917
01:59:24.159 --> 01:59:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I forget, I can't remember his fucking name anyway. He

1918
01:59:27.079 --> 01:59:31.800
<v Speaker 2>comes from this planet where everybody is like insanely powerful

1919
01:59:32.319 --> 01:59:35.439
<v Speaker 2>and like his original mission was to come to Earth

1920
01:59:35.479 --> 01:59:37.319
<v Speaker 2>and like scout it out so that he can take

1921
01:59:37.359 --> 01:59:39.800
<v Speaker 2>it over. And then he ended up falling in love

1922
01:59:39.840 --> 01:59:44.199
<v Speaker 2>with a woman and having a kid, and it's a

1923
01:59:44.239 --> 01:59:45.680
<v Speaker 2>whole thing it's very good.

1924
01:59:45.800 --> 01:59:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Got it now, I was getting, you know, like I

1925
01:59:51.920 --> 01:59:55.680
<v Speaker 1>love the themes that they're examining.

1926
01:59:56.039 --> 01:59:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, like for two seasons, basically he was like a

1927
01:59:59.199 --> 02:00:03.520
<v Speaker 2>villain and he was like killing everything and everyone and

1928
02:00:04.079 --> 02:00:07.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I can destroy this planet and you

1929
02:00:07.279 --> 02:00:10.560
<v Speaker 2>better bow down, bitches. And then in the most recent

1930
02:00:10.640 --> 02:00:14.800
<v Speaker 2>season he's like, yeah, I shouldn't have done that, and

1931
02:00:14.880 --> 02:00:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, and everyone's like, oh, you're sorry. That's so cute.

1932
02:00:17.680 --> 02:00:20.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a family anymore, bitch, you know, like

1933
02:00:20.159 --> 02:00:25.159
<v Speaker 2>that right, and he's like, but I'm sorry, and then

1934
02:00:25.199 --> 02:00:27.000
<v Speaker 2>they spit in his face and he has to take

1935
02:00:27.039 --> 02:00:28.680
<v Speaker 2>it because he knows what he did.

1936
02:00:30.199 --> 02:00:32.319
<v Speaker 1>So at least in the cartoons.

1937
02:00:32.720 --> 02:00:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that part.

1938
02:00:36.000 --> 02:00:37.840
<v Speaker 1>The four seasons we watched.

1939
02:00:39.039 --> 02:00:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Season two of four seasons is on Netflix. Calmin

1940
02:00:45.399 --> 02:00:50.439
<v Speaker 2>Domingo and Tina Fey and Steve Correll and Will Forte and.

1941
02:00:51.119 --> 02:00:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, based off some you know, the original movie,

1942
02:00:55.760 --> 02:00:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Alan Alda does a cameo Alan Alda, Carol Burnette at

1943
02:00:59.840 --> 02:01:03.439
<v Speaker 1>all a Sandy Dennis. So I can't stand et cetera.

1944
02:01:03.920 --> 02:01:08.680
<v Speaker 1>And this is the series and it's cute. It's better

1945
02:01:08.720 --> 02:01:10.800
<v Speaker 1>than that's interesting. You said, Well, there you go.

1946
02:01:10.960 --> 02:01:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Fine, and I didn't hate the movie, but the series

1947
02:01:14.520 --> 02:01:15.239
<v Speaker 2>is way better.

1948
02:01:15.680 --> 02:01:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, there you go. So and we went. We blew

1949
02:01:19.000 --> 02:01:22.239
<v Speaker 1>through season two in a day and a half, which

1950
02:01:22.279 --> 02:01:29.279
<v Speaker 1>is available. Yes, Hacks serious finale series, damn it. I

1951
02:01:29.359 --> 02:01:35.520
<v Speaker 1>loved Hacks. I loved Jean Smart's whole good mh. I

1952
02:01:35.520 --> 02:01:38.319
<v Speaker 1>love that she had this because I've always loved her.

1953
02:01:38.680 --> 02:01:42.720
<v Speaker 1>And we got Hannah Einbinder out of the whole deal.

1954
02:01:43.000 --> 02:01:46.640
<v Speaker 2>So, Yeah, the ending was satisfying.

1955
02:01:46.840 --> 02:01:48.760
<v Speaker 1>It was. It kind of wrapped things up.

1956
02:01:48.920 --> 02:01:51.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it didn't go where I thought it was going

1957
02:01:51.159 --> 02:01:52.600
<v Speaker 2>to go, but I was happy that it went where

1958
02:01:52.600 --> 02:01:52.880
<v Speaker 2>it went.

1959
02:01:53.119 --> 02:01:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it tied it with a bow. I guess I'm

1960
02:01:56.119 --> 02:01:58.640
<v Speaker 1>sad it's done. It was good.

1961
02:01:59.000 --> 02:01:59.960
<v Speaker 2>And that show is funny.

1962
02:02:00.000 --> 02:02:01.600
<v Speaker 1>It's fun it's funny.

1963
02:02:01.840 --> 02:02:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I really liked so many different levels. Yep, just and

1964
02:02:05.800 --> 02:02:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I and I love and I've said this, I probably

1965
02:02:07.920 --> 02:02:10.079
<v Speaker 2>say this every year when we talk about it. I

1966
02:02:10.119 --> 02:02:13.319
<v Speaker 2>love the fact that the main character is a stand

1967
02:02:13.359 --> 02:02:17.159
<v Speaker 2>up comedian who is actually funny.

1968
02:02:17.640 --> 02:02:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Right, it's true, actually funny.

1969
02:02:22.239 --> 02:02:23.159
<v Speaker 2>You watch The Pit.

1970
02:02:23.359 --> 02:02:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I watched The Pit. Yeah, I like it. There's been

1971
02:02:26.399 --> 02:02:27.399
<v Speaker 1>now two seasons.

1972
02:02:27.600 --> 02:02:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I get I like it.

1973
02:02:30.520 --> 02:02:35.920
<v Speaker 1>It was acclaimed, you know Wiley, Yeah, graduate graduated from

1974
02:02:36.680 --> 02:02:40.560
<v Speaker 1>er to the pit. Yeah, I liked it. Is that

1975
02:02:40.640 --> 02:02:41.399
<v Speaker 1>in Pittsburgh.

1976
02:02:41.600 --> 02:02:45.279
<v Speaker 2>It has that same device as twenty four, where the

1977
02:02:45.439 --> 02:02:48.720
<v Speaker 2>season is a the season is a day, right, Well,

1978
02:02:48.720 --> 02:02:52.079
<v Speaker 2>in twenty four a shift the season right in twenty four,

1979
02:02:52.119 --> 02:02:54.760
<v Speaker 2>the season was a day in the pit. The season

1980
02:02:54.880 --> 02:02:56.039
<v Speaker 2>is a shift.

1981
02:02:55.760 --> 02:02:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Like a one twelve hour shift, I guess, yeah.

1982
02:02:58.840 --> 02:03:01.359
<v Speaker 2>And every episode is an hour of that shift.

1983
02:03:01.079 --> 02:03:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Something like that. Yeah. Interesting, So it's interestingly well done.

1984
02:03:05.199 --> 02:03:07.479
<v Speaker 1>You know there was a time, you know, time had

1985
02:03:07.560 --> 02:03:10.520
<v Speaker 1>elapsed between season one and two. I assume the same

1986
02:03:10.520 --> 02:03:13.720
<v Speaker 1>thing will happen, you know, before season three. But definitely

1987
02:03:13.800 --> 02:03:15.119
<v Speaker 1>worth watching. I enjoyed it.

1988
02:03:15.359 --> 02:03:18.399
<v Speaker 2>I like that device and so and you know, there's

1989
02:03:18.399 --> 02:03:20.039
<v Speaker 2>a reason why you don't see it used that often

1990
02:03:20.079 --> 02:03:23.359
<v Speaker 2>because it has to be centered in a setting that

1991
02:03:24.039 --> 02:03:27.920
<v Speaker 2>where enough ship happens that each episode can be an

1992
02:03:28.000 --> 02:03:30.319
<v Speaker 2>hour right of a day.

1993
02:03:30.319 --> 02:03:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Of a day. Yea, and the whole interesting, Yeah, and

1994
02:03:33.960 --> 02:03:36.760
<v Speaker 1>move forward. I enjoyed it.

1995
02:03:36.920 --> 02:03:41.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know the emergency department of a hospital.

1996
02:03:42.680 --> 02:03:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Enough ship's gonna happy. Yeah.

1997
02:03:44.199 --> 02:03:48.399
<v Speaker 1>I had heard good things and and tuned in, wasn't disappointed,

1998
02:03:48.640 --> 02:03:53.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm through it. You were like me, so fine,

1999
02:03:54.079 --> 02:03:54.600
<v Speaker 1>it's allow.

2000
02:03:55.199 --> 02:03:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a little too dry for me and Engross.

2001
02:03:58.680 --> 02:04:03.439
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well you had those moments for sure. Hbo mm hmm.

2002
02:04:05.479 --> 02:04:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Imperfect Women.

2003
02:04:06.520 --> 02:04:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Imperfect Women was good. It was the limited series Kerry Washington,

2004
02:04:11.880 --> 02:04:17.439
<v Speaker 2>Kerrie Washington, Elizabeth Moss, the chick that was the wife

2005
02:04:17.479 --> 02:04:21.319
<v Speaker 2>in season one of Poe's. Yes.

2006
02:04:22.199 --> 02:04:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that one really good, really interesting, really nicely done.

2007
02:04:27.760 --> 02:04:32.680
<v Speaker 2>There's an influx of who done it on television lately? Yeah,

2008
02:04:32.880 --> 02:04:36.960
<v Speaker 2>and I do enjoy those me too. Yeah, so I

2009
02:04:37.039 --> 02:04:40.840
<v Speaker 2>recommend Imperfect Women. We saw so many things.

2010
02:04:40.960 --> 02:04:43.840
<v Speaker 1>We did. The one I really want to talk about,

2011
02:04:44.119 --> 02:04:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Ted Lasso.

2012
02:04:45.960 --> 02:04:50.640
<v Speaker 2>We avoided Ted Lasso, I you know, for a reason,

2013
02:04:51.920 --> 02:04:52.520
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know.

2014
02:04:52.600 --> 02:04:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember what the reasons were. It seemed

2015
02:04:54.880 --> 02:04:56.520
<v Speaker 1>to be sports centric.

2016
02:04:56.520 --> 02:05:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, well, it felt very like heteros normative did in

2017
02:05:00.840 --> 02:05:02.199
<v Speaker 2>sports bali.

2018
02:05:02.239 --> 02:05:05.319
<v Speaker 1>And very It sort of gave me this smell of like,

2019
02:05:05.520 --> 02:05:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, college football or something. I wasn't interested

2020
02:05:08.720 --> 02:05:09.760
<v Speaker 1>in finding out more.

2021
02:05:10.199 --> 02:05:13.079
<v Speaker 2>And a couple of people told us you'll hate the

2022
02:05:13.119 --> 02:05:16.119
<v Speaker 2>main character at first, but then after a few episodes,

2023
02:05:16.159 --> 02:05:18.720
<v Speaker 2>you'll like it, which ended up might even being true.

2024
02:05:18.760 --> 02:05:20.359
<v Speaker 2>When we watched it, right.

2025
02:05:20.680 --> 02:05:25.279
<v Speaker 1>It didn't. It didn't. I I'm sorry that. I'm grateful

2026
02:05:26.239 --> 02:05:28.680
<v Speaker 1>that by the time we caught onto it, there were

2027
02:05:28.680 --> 02:05:31.760
<v Speaker 1>three whole seasons to watch, right. But I feel like

2028
02:05:31.800 --> 02:05:33.439
<v Speaker 1>I was late to the party. And if I ever

2029
02:05:33.439 --> 02:05:36.159
<v Speaker 1>said a negative word about it, I apologize it.

2030
02:05:36.239 --> 02:05:39.439
<v Speaker 2>Saying I've been putting people on and everyone's been saying

2031
02:05:39.479 --> 02:05:41.880
<v Speaker 2>the same thing I wanted to. I heard that it

2032
02:05:41.920 --> 02:05:43.680
<v Speaker 2>was good, it just didn't feel like it was for me,

2033
02:05:43.720 --> 02:05:45.880
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, no, really watch it.

2034
02:05:45.560 --> 02:05:48.319
<v Speaker 1>I really felt like it would not be for us

2035
02:05:48.439 --> 02:05:56.039
<v Speaker 1>at all, and I was mistaken. Yeah, it's really feel

2036
02:05:56.079 --> 02:06:01.279
<v Speaker 1>good television, some great messages. I feel about ted Lasso

2037
02:06:01.439 --> 02:06:04.319
<v Speaker 1>the way Kathy felt about Barbie.

2038
02:06:05.600 --> 02:06:07.680
<v Speaker 2>See. I feel the same way about Ted Last. So

2039
02:06:07.760 --> 02:06:09.199
<v Speaker 2>as I felt about The Good Place.

2040
02:06:10.279 --> 02:06:13.159
<v Speaker 1>I didn't love the Good Place. It was fine.

2041
02:06:13.279 --> 02:06:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I loved it. It was fine, smart, and it

2042
02:06:16.199 --> 02:06:18.279
<v Speaker 2>was feel good and it was uplifting.

2043
02:06:18.439 --> 02:06:20.359
<v Speaker 1>All loved it more than I did. It was it

2044
02:06:20.399 --> 02:06:24.399
<v Speaker 1>was fine, it was fine. I felt tedious. But this

2045
02:06:24.640 --> 02:06:25.840
<v Speaker 1>what I loved about Ted Last.

2046
02:06:25.840 --> 02:06:29.920
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, what is this like emotional maturity, non

2047
02:06:30.039 --> 02:06:34.760
<v Speaker 2>toxic masculinity exactly. People like changing their mind about their

2048
02:06:34.800 --> 02:06:41.840
<v Speaker 2>preconceived notions of people and rottery and empathy and holy shit.

2049
02:06:42.479 --> 02:06:47.760
<v Speaker 1>And situations that could have gone very wrong, and it's like, yeah,

2050
02:06:47.880 --> 02:06:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and it was heartwarming. Yeah. I shed several tears, we

2051
02:06:53.640 --> 02:06:57.600
<v Speaker 1>both did, and it was just beautifully done. And so

2052
02:06:57.920 --> 02:07:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Jason say, I have this entire new found respect for

2053
02:07:02.680 --> 02:07:07.680
<v Speaker 1>him and this work. And it really was lovely.

2054
02:07:08.039 --> 02:07:11.600
<v Speaker 2>And the third season was supposed to be the final season, final,

2055
02:07:11.640 --> 02:07:14.439
<v Speaker 2>final season, and it reads like it was. It does

2056
02:07:14.479 --> 02:07:16.439
<v Speaker 2>read like it could have been the end of the

2057
02:07:16.479 --> 02:07:20.199
<v Speaker 2>whole thing, and there will be a fourth season coming

2058
02:07:20.199 --> 02:07:22.680
<v Speaker 2>out what August I think, Yeah, it sounds right, so

2059
02:07:22.720 --> 02:07:29.439
<v Speaker 2>that'll be interesting to say. I loved it, Yeah, loved it.

2060
02:07:29.159 --> 02:07:34.640
<v Speaker 2>It's feel good television. Indeed, it was funny, it was heartwarming,

2061
02:07:35.840 --> 02:07:37.039
<v Speaker 2>it was inspiring.

2062
02:07:37.720 --> 02:07:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, good stuff. I loved it, really good stuff.

2063
02:07:43.239 --> 02:07:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what my resistance was, but it was

2064
02:07:45.840 --> 02:07:47.279
<v Speaker 1>just like one day, I'm like, oh, what the hell,

2065
02:07:47.359 --> 02:07:53.960
<v Speaker 1>let's try right and right exactly. So yeah, and so

2066
02:07:54.079 --> 02:07:56.880
<v Speaker 1>we binged over the course of a week or two

2067
02:07:58.039 --> 02:08:01.199
<v Speaker 1>all three seasons. It was worth it, I agree. So,

2068
02:08:04.560 --> 02:08:06.119
<v Speaker 1>but you're welcome to talk about that.

2069
02:08:06.960 --> 02:08:11.880
<v Speaker 2>So it's fucking drag Race All stars A love it and.

2070
02:08:14.279 --> 02:08:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I feel about it. She's still cracking.

2071
02:08:17.520 --> 02:08:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they're so, they're they're bringing back this idea of

2072
02:08:25.079 --> 02:08:30.800
<v Speaker 2>brackets for All Stars. So it's like there's six twelve,

2073
02:08:30.880 --> 02:08:36.039
<v Speaker 2>eighteen queens and each is six per bracket and three

2074
02:08:36.119 --> 02:08:39.279
<v Speaker 2>weeks per bracket, and then the top two from each

2075
02:08:39.359 --> 02:08:43.159
<v Speaker 2>bracket move on, and then at the top six go

2076
02:08:43.239 --> 02:08:45.079
<v Speaker 2>to the semifinals and then it gets down to a

2077
02:08:45.159 --> 02:08:48.760
<v Speaker 2>final two and then someone wins. And I don't like

2078
02:08:48.800 --> 02:08:51.239
<v Speaker 2>this format. I like the fact that there's so many

2079
02:08:51.359 --> 02:08:53.960
<v Speaker 2>queens and you get to see them and like it

2080
02:08:54.039 --> 02:08:57.840
<v Speaker 2>refreshes in three weeks. But it's like the steaks are

2081
02:08:57.880 --> 02:09:00.600
<v Speaker 2>so crazy and there's desperation. I don't know, it's just.

2082
02:09:02.439 --> 02:09:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

2083
02:09:03.239 --> 02:09:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So but you know, got to see Vivacious back

2084
02:09:06.880 --> 02:09:12.359
<v Speaker 2>on television and in Crystal Method, and it's it's it's

2085
02:09:12.399 --> 02:09:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm just watching it because I watch

2086
02:09:15.039 --> 02:09:17.000
<v Speaker 2>All Stars. I don't never give a shit about the

2087
02:09:17.000 --> 02:09:20.960
<v Speaker 2>main season, but it's All Stars. I'm watching it. And

2088
02:09:21.560 --> 02:09:24.960
<v Speaker 2>we just did bracket too, so three more and then

2089
02:09:25.600 --> 02:09:32.520
<v Speaker 2>things okay, yeah, basic, that's kind of been about that show,

2090
02:09:32.720 --> 02:09:37.000
<v Speaker 2>like for the past few seasons time.

2091
02:09:37.359 --> 02:09:39.079
<v Speaker 1>It's like yeah, I'm just over.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you are, we know now, we fucking no,

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<v Speaker 2>but I am. Finally, I'm currently watching Spider and Noir

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<v Speaker 2>on Amazon Prime, which I've been excited about because it's

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<v Speaker 2>an iteration of Spider Man that I have always been

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<v Speaker 2>intrigued by. Spider Noir. It takes place in this alternate

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<v Speaker 2>reality where it's nineteen thirties or forties New York and

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<v Speaker 2>Spider Man's like a gumshoe detective and in this version

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<v Speaker 2>he's played by Nicholas Cage. And this is like the

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<v Speaker 2>most subdued acting I've ever seen from Nicholas Cage. Really. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's playing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's playing Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me a little long in the tooth to play

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<v Speaker 1>Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing with this particular version, like he's

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<v Speaker 2>a little the word might be older than the word

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<v Speaker 2>coming to mind is grizzled, but that's not it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he's like the one I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a little world weary and he's yeah, but he

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<v Speaker 2>still like does the webs and the swinging and the things. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's Nicholas Cage, Yeah, and he's a he's a

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<v Speaker 2>detective and it's it's done like noir style, that it's

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<v Speaker 2>in black and white, and it's filmed for black and white,

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<v Speaker 2>but they give you the option of watching it in color.

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<v Speaker 2>For some reason, I haven't done that. I've been watching

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<v Speaker 2>it in the black and white is intended.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, it's a series.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a series.

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<v Speaker 1>So Nicholas Cage is doing a series. Yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>very cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm liking it fun. Did you know how I feel

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<v Speaker 2>bout Spider Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I know that you love Spider Man. I do

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<v Speaker 1>know that. Yeah, he's sixty two, he's older than me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, wait a minute. Yeah, it's good though, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's intrigued, like you might actually enjoy it. Maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 1>it's story driven. Okay, at first glance, I'm feeling the

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<v Speaker 1>way I feel about the Madonna perfume commercial, like girl

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<v Speaker 1>trying to picture him as Spider Man. But uh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll keep up in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're not trying to make him look young, like.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I got it, well don't yet, like they are

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<v Speaker 1>in that commercion. She don't by the way she looks.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is Grandma moving on me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Exactly, That's how I read it. I hate that

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<v Speaker 1>commercial so much on streaming or it was for a time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to picture it. I'll keep an open mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe i'll try to watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>What's it on Amazon Prime?

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon Prime? Spider wir Yes, okay, I dig it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to picture as not a parody of Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always young. I mean, he's young.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's interesting is that they have Peter Parker, you know, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a diverse what is he the retired version

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<v Speaker 2>of Peter Parker. No, different character entirely. His name is

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Riley.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh yeah, so not Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Spider Man, different person mm hmmm. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>different versions of Spider Man and all these different the

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<v Speaker 2>universe canonically.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, it's a word I been Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>The cast is very diverse, and like there's black people

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like actually playing black people because you know

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<v Speaker 2>how like sometimes with color blind casting, if you put

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<v Speaker 2>a black person in a role, it's like, Okay, here's

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<v Speaker 2>a role that was for a white person, but we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to stick you in it, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>pretend you're not black. They're not they're not doing that

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<v Speaker 2>like good. The black people are black people, so I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, all right, maybe worth that checking out.

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<v Speaker 2>I've only been able to get through like a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of episodes, so I can go back with that a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>What else did we want? Oh, you finally saw a

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<v Speaker 1>Raisin in the Sun?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh ship, that's right. I watched the Rain in the

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<v Speaker 2>Raisin in the Sun for the first time last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>But the original Sidney Potier original it. Yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's wonderful. I mean, as I knew it would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Just happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I had only seen parts of the Danny Glover Revival

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<v Speaker 2>on PBS, and I was too young for it. I

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<v Speaker 2>was at the right age now to watch it. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't find that version anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And if anybody had a canopy might so.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't love And they also don't have the fully

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<v Speaker 2>Shuarshad Diddy version, which something tells me they might have

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<v Speaker 2>had it at one point and then they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need this. We got we don't need Diddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, but that I mean that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I'm glad. I'm I can check that off of

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<v Speaker 2>my things that I have always wanted to see, but

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<v Speaker 2>never got to for some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>A list, and we'll be performing together. That's been a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. Yes, we're gonna be performing at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the month. A friend of ours it's been

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<v Speaker 2>dying to put together some creative opportunities, and so we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be doing a piece that is a multi discipline. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a dinner party and the guest of honor tells

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<v Speaker 2>a story, and there will be music and dance supporting

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<v Speaker 2>the story. And the guest of honor for this dinner party,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be you.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard, Yes, I heard. I can't wait to see

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<v Speaker 1>how it turns out. Yeah, it's fun, it's interesting. I'm intrigued. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see how this all bubbles together.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point this week, we're going to have our

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<v Speaker 2>first rehearsal.

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<v Speaker 1>So really, I guess I should have a story writing

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't hurt fuck? Okay, Well, I've work to do. I

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<v Speaker 1>also have, yeah, some remarks to write. Uh, you're busy, lady,

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<v Speaker 1>I am? Yeah? All good, all good?

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so I guess this is the time where

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<v Speaker 2>we should do some podcast business.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's do that, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Then, if you haven't already. Why don't you swing on

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast Business Over, Phew, anything else on your spirit?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that was a lot, we did that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, I gotta go, right ship. Uh huh what

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<v Speaker 1>am I sitting around for? I'm glad we finally sat down.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, been a minute, it has Uh, let's not

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<v Speaker 1>wait so long next time? That would be great, right

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<v Speaker 1>ding dang it, life keeps lifing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Until then, you've been listening to a Full Circle the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host Martha Madrigal.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm your host Charles Tyson Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll see you next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye.

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