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Speaker 1: You've got a mountain inside your chats. It's been a while.

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Speaker 2: Just wait and scrush looks into the fog. Can clench

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your fist, strike a small good night goodness. She the

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earth beneath your souls swung deep. You're in patrol. Weis loud.

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Let them hear every answers in your mirror.

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Speaker 3: Steven Shela Tillick is back.

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Speaker 4: For those who don't know, may not be familiar.

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Speaker 3: She's a metaphysical minister, recovery, metaphysician, and international energy healer

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with a background in healthcare, which I always think is

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really really helpful and great you were at Rochester General Hospital.

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She now focuses on holistic energy practices to assist individuals

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and their healing journeys, and also does therapy right with

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oh yeah, like that's the thing. So there are a

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few things on my mind today, and particularly the idea

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of letting go, which is right and so it sounds

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so simple, yet I feel like we cling, we revisit,

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we assign meaning to pass situations that maybe don't need

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the meaning and it. Lately my perspective has shifted. I

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find myself tracing things back to their roots and go, well,

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this no longer serves me, right, it's bullshit, It doesn't

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serve me. But what if the resentment is still lodged

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deep woven in the fabric of my being or as

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you say, the issue and your tissues? You know, how

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do we truly let that go? And that that seems

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to be the real work. But the question sometimes it

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is how, like what practices can people do to sort

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of go back and go I gotta let this go.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how, go inside, go inside and just stop,

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you know, and be in the present moment. And we've

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talked about that all the time, but we are so

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busy living, you know, we got to do this, We

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got to do that. And then when situations come up,

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like the resentment, we don't know where they come from,

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but there are many, many layers, and so be quiet,

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be in the present moment, relax and also get help

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like me, talk about you know, the root issues. What

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are the issues and the tissues? Why are you feeling

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the resentment? Why are you feeling like you always got

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to be in control? And it has to do with

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survival and what we've been programmed to believe limits us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the programming, it's interesting because I'm even thinking of

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people in my life that can go back to situations that.

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Speaker 4: Are over fifty years.

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Speaker 3: Oh, they remember it, don't they, And they go right

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back to it and it can.

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Speaker 1: Actually ruin in their day astely.

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Speaker 3: And it's something that happened so long ago, but they

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can't let it. It's like it's in there. And that's

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the thing, is like what how do we Because the

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idea is you got to reach for the better feeling

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thought and that sounds so simple.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's more to it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's deep, right.

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Speaker 1: It's also it's in the heart center you know who

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you are as a divine bed. Also you're thinking and

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your thought process, right, it is the emotions that come out.

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It's like, where does this emotion come out? I wasn't

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thinking anything about that. But as you live every day

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and try to make a living and do what you

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what you do in your best the best you can,

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you know, and then all of a sudden it blows up.

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it really wasn't your fault. But it's also part of

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you letting go. We talked about letting go and do different,

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all right, so that didn't work, So maybe I should

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do this. But we always take it on. We take

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, we take it on. We take it's personal everything.

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is old news. It's stuff that you brought forth and

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about energy, your thoughts, your behaviors, your beliefs, things that

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you've been learned, you learned, but also things that are

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stuck and a lot of times are old distorted energy loops,

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the things that you were programmed. And also society. Society,

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it's a big one. We are changing so quickly and

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it has to change, but it's following the actual the

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order of change, what is supposed to happen for humanity,

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an in visual level, it's happening to all of us.

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Speaker 1: The change is too fast, but there's also a reason

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for that. But we're all going through the issues and

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the tissues, the anger, the resentment, the control, you know,

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the why isn't it working? That's self doubt, yes, And

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enough or worthy enough, and it's within the cellular memory

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of the body. In other words, it's inside.

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Speaker 4: So when I say, like the the.

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Speaker 3: We get trapped in what isness of life right right

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now with a lack of money, a person not in

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your life, a job that isn't there.

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Speaker 4: Or whatever else we feel is missing.

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Speaker 3: And in doing so, I feel like we stay stuck

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there because that's where we're focused exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's what my role is. Get unstuck, you know, unstuck

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from things that no longer serve you. And you keep

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doing the same thing, you can get the same results.

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it's about change and evolving of things don't work for

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you anymore. It's like, why why is this not happening?

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the learning is all about and going with inside and

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asking for help. And you know, the answers do come

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to you when you just listen and get out of

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the old thinking, get out of the old thinking. I'm

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not good enough. I you know, here we go again.

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Speaker 4: Woe is me?

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Speaker 1: Yes, So that's the emotions.

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Speaker 4: Is it just merely thought?

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Speaker 3: This is where I believe things like meditation where you

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calm the brain right, try to.

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and how you put input into your brain, what you watch,

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what you see, what you listen to. But the people also,

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everybody's going through this and a lot of people aren't

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ready to move on and they say they want to

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stay stuck. But you get in the middle of that

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energy and you feel that, and that's what the triggers are.

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Speaker 1: Those are like something triggered you, well, something something somebody said,

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something is like that's ridiculous, doesn't make any sense. You know,

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it's like why can't they see? And it's like you

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you take an action to Okay, I gotta do something different,

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and so you take the action. Just like with a

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session that you've had, you're you have another one. But

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it's all about going with the inside and doing different.

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why you say I'm stuck. I'm stuck. Yeah, so we

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electromagnetic field is out of whack. So when you talk

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how you process thing, how you think your emotions.

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Speaker 4: So to sort of shield yourself.

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you know, talk to the hand time talk to the hand,

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you know, and because that's what you've learned. When you

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don't want to face anything, talk to them. It's like

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be heard and that other persons stopping you right right,

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old distorted energy loops, those are distortion means. It doesn't

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serve you, but it's the way it was to survive, right.

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what this new energy is about. I was that you

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things deep inside, you know. And because they're all going

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this ping pong ball, and I go, there's got to

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be a way for you to go inside and almost

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steal yourself and go because I always say, the world

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your reaction is to it is better. And if you

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can see things for what they are and you just

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meditation practice actually raise your vibration and sort of let

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Speaker 4: Things that are better. And you know, it's.

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Speaker 3: Boy, I can It feels like it's so easy to

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's the work, and that's what really makes you mad.

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just herritates what's not. You feel lower than, not good enough,

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the control stuff. And so so as you start to

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unravel all those pieces of codes and thoughts and behaviors

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that are deep down inside how you survive, you start

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to let the good stuff come through. The good stuff

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meaning thoughts of doing different, totally different. And then it's

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your consciousness vibration. And it's an inside job. You've got

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to do it inside yourself. Nobody else can do. So

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we've been through it, and we go through it every

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emotions and it is going up and down. But go

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and start to heal. Now, as a practitioner, what I do,

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which is wonderful. We've got to go beyond that. You know,

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I've did all that. I know that it came from that.

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That there's so much more of who we are and

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our abilities. A lot of they don't know who to

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go to. But it takes time. You know, you just

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can't take it. You eat the whole elephant at once.

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Speaker 4: We want to, yes, well we want.

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Speaker 3: I often think that you have the power to change

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things instantaneously. You do, but we don't believe it. Why

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Why can't we? Why can't we all of a sudden go.

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Speaker 1: That's the programming. Okay, it limits you.

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what you're gonna believe. However, evidence is coming out that

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I'm not happy, I gotta do something. I'm stuck, and

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that's where I come in. That's where I come in.

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I don't want to talk about my feelings. I want

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to talk about this person, what they did to me. Yes,

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it's like we're not talking about that person. They're not here.

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slowly unravel all those distorted loops of energy that kept

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you stuck doing the same thing over and over again.

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What you're a programmer do. Things are all changing now,

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everything's changing, and it's new opportunities if you look at

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it as an opportunity, if you look at it as

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oh my god, we're going this is you know, the

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world's gonna end type thing. And that's how people are

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because they are so stuck in that energy that they

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they're scared. It's the fear. What's we talked about many

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times about the love and the fear. And as you

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start to heal, you start to come for a more

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heart center vibration. So when you're talking to somebody that's

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telling you what to do and how to do it,

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and you really just get mad because it's like, you

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not listen to anything I'm saying. That's not how I'm feeling,

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that's what they're feeling. You can actually not react to it.

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you go inside and heal yourself first, then you resonate

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a different frequency out, you know, and not get so

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angry with people or what they say, or you don't

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have to contribute to it. Just like pick your battles

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type thing.

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Speaker 3: Well, it is a pick your battles type thing. And

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there's always there's some people that, let's say it's somebody

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at your job that always rubs you the wrong way, right,

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and everybody has something like that.

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Speaker 4: Is it possible to.

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Speaker 3: Almost focus on the good attributes of that.

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of the bad.

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Speaker 1: That's what you do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And does it help to like write those things

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down only because there's a connection somehow it makes it well.

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even just like gratefulest, like no, I really like this person.

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I like that they can do this and this, and

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you know their their relationship with this, and then you

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can write the other column. It's not you didn't listen

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to me, you know, I want want some help here

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and always tell me is what he would do. But

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that's good. I can take some of the stuff what

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he do. But I don't feel like I'm getting unstuck. Yeah,

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I feel like I'm still stuck in the same situation,

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right because you're still going to the same person who

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isn't where you you're at, right, all right, they're not.

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with that frequency anymore, meaning you don't resonate with those people,

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places and things, or it's not a good you know,

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I need other kind of help, or I need to

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be in a different moving on in a different direction,

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and a lot of people don't want to because they

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have the fear, you know. So it's like a great,

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big it's a big energy loop and you're talking about

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the ping pong, absolutely, but it's also about going within

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and the energy and the ability that you have. And

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a lot of us have told us a bunch of bullshit,

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you know, and religion talking Oh that's that's that's evil,

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that's the devil. Well, what is going on is the

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different duality of the energy and the energies in your

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in your brain, the vibration in your brain, which you're thinking.

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Speaker 4: I almost often think now right, you talk religion and

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all the things.

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and good stuff and bad stuff.

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the ability that that Jesus or Yeshua, however you had

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or has, and you still you can evoke that within you.

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Speaker 4: You can you can move mountains. But it sounds easy

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to say.

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Speaker 3: And then you find resistance somewhere or contrast in something,

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and it brings you right back.

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Speaker 4: And it is how we're programmed.

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Speaker 1: It's programming. It's keeping you stuck doing that stuff. Right,

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if you don't do this, this is what's going to happen. Well,

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sometimes this is what's going to happen. Happens because you

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you believe that this is what's going to happen. But

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when you start to wake up, this is all about

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waking up, waking up to the ability and the power

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that you have. You know, a lot of people don't

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believe they have power. Is because of all these programmings

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and they've been told they don't have the power. Only

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God has the power, right, you know, and you're this

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is what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: But you are an extension of source energy. You are

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that energy.

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Speaker 1: You are and everything that Jesus talks about is love

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and helps people not be little people and put people

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back down or you know, it be in that negative

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vibration of what their thoughts and what they need to do,

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you know, And so that is all those negative energy

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loops that it's inside for survival. So when you get

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to the point where you're stuck and you feel like

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I can't survive anything, I just I just want to

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check out of here, which it happens all the time, right,

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so quickly that so many people are just beside themselves

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the anxiety and the stress. And that's why as a

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as a heart math coach, stress and trauma, what is

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stored withinside the body. But you can go inside the

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body with your thoughts and bring it back to your

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emotions of love, right, you know. And that's why that works.

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And that's measurable data, that's scientifically, but that's not accepted

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as well as a mainstream or the programming that you've

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always known.

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Speaker 3: Well we yeah, we're always told you got to grind

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it out, you know, work real hard.

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Speaker 1: And should be rewarded. And this is what's going to happen.

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If you don't do that, you're going to fail. Yeah,

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you're gonna end up on the street like that bomb.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know that that's necessarily true. I think

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you've got to go with pure positive energy thought. Let

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that be your guide, Let that be the thing that

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brings you to different places. But it's again it's easier

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said than done. We fall back on what we were

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programmed to and so this is this doesn't work. And

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then you go, well this it's these people are crazy, these.

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Speaker 4: People are nice.

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Speaker 1: Work. It might be good for you, but it doesn't

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work for me, you know, and that that's called moving on.

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But also you don't disrespect them or not glad that

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you had a relationship with them, because that's part of

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your growth, right. But the thing is is that they

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no longer serve you, right, And that's we're serving what

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no longer releasing, what no longer serves you is all about.

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And that's what this energy is all about. As far

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as we can change, we can move forward in a

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more healthier manner individually with our lives by becoming unstuck,

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being aware of what you're stuck with. Like you talked

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about resentment, yes, all right, and you talk about you know,

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income and money and surviving and that's all stuff we've

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been programmed. But when we turn it over, let God,

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let go, as they say, but turn it over, and

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what does that mean? What does that mean?

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Speaker 4: What does it mean? And that that's my question, Like,

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because it's so easy to go, let go, I'm not

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going to think about it. I'll just let go. Everything's

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going to be fine.

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Speaker 1: But you know, and everybody has their own journey, they

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have their own bottom that they're going to hit, and

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they're going to have their own experiences that they're going

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to hit, you know, And that's part of us growing

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as souls, building the wisdom, the wisdom that's instant side

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of us, and we can use that. A lot of

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people say, yeah, but in wisdom, I'm going to stay

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away from that guy because this guy is going you know,

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it's like, so that's being sarcastic, but it also shows

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that they don't believe it, yes, because they've been hurt,

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they've been programmed that it really doesn't work. You've got

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to do this path or it's not going to work right,

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and society is showing that now. But all the changes

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that are happening and they're they're freaking out is because

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they don't want to handle it. And that's what we're

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all going through. We're going through this pain and this

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energetic change in humanity and it's happening to the whole world.

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It's just not us. However, it will get better because

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it shows it's changing if you look back. That's why

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I always say, look back where you were twenty years ago,

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thirty years ago, your childhood, whatever, What are your beliefs now?

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You know who are your friends? Do you still have

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the same friends? Most likely you don't is because you

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grew outgrew those people. That's the same with your wisdom

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and the things that you learn. You've outgrown it, you know,

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and and but you use the information, use the intelligence

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from it, because that's how you grow to be a

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more enlightened soul or a more energetic person, or get

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from here to there. But there's all different ways of

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going from here to there, and that's where you got

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to You gotta start from the beginning. You got to

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back up, back up. And that's why I always talk

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about going to the root costs. How did that happen

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in the first place? And that's what energy work does,

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and it allows taking layer upon layer apart, taking it off,

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and then your own spirituality or your innate body, your soul,

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your knowing starts to work.

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Speaker 4: We like to be in the know.

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Speaker 3: We're nosy, we don't want to admit that necessarily, but

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we like knowing the different gossip in the news and

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did you see this?

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Speaker 4: And you say that, and I go, I feel like

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we get too much.

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Speaker 3: We're not built to get all this information, and that

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it throws you off because now you're thinking is more

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comparative and I don't have or whatever, and we lose

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these things. And I'm starting to really think that the

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one thing that will bring us all back is discipline

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in a self discipline in terms of what really makes

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you happy. If you discipline yourself to that, you'll actually

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feel better exactly, you know what I mean. A discipline

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of going to bed at a certain time, eating a

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certain way, avoiding, and I'm saying not have fun in that,

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but almost like a simpler well, it's.

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Speaker 1: Self healing, self care, Yeah, it's it's about it's steered again,

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about going inside, yes, and it's all it's always an

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inside job. And a lot of people say, yeah, but

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you don't understand, you know, my pressures and everything and

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what I deal with. And that's where the choices come in,

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right turn off the TV or listen to different TV.

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And that's you know, that's a big one right there.

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The manipulation and the mind control affects the consciousness field,

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all right, So what you think is what you will

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get if you think that you're not good enough or

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this is never going to work, or turn the focus

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on something else instead of what you need to change

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in yourself. That's about growing, involving changing yourself first, and

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a lot of people want to just do it overnight,

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the magic pill.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, it doesn't.

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00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: Happen that way. It doesn't happen that.

475
00:25:59,079 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 4: Way, and it's part of the journey. As we say,

476
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,319
it's the journey, the.

477
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,799
Speaker 1: Journey, and it's about your individuality and evolving into something.

478
00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:11,559
Speaker 4: That's the thing is like the power is within you.

479
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 3: And sometimes I almost feel like you've got to simplify

480
00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:19,279
things and realize and stop attaching meaning to.

481
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: Certain things exactly. And also old beliefs.

482
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, old beliefs, well, going back to the resentment

483
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,960
and the things that are.

484
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: And then also when you talk to somebody like me

485
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,480
that do different, they they say, well, how they can

486
00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:35,400
feel the energy different and they feel comfortable coming out

487
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,400
and talking to me. And then you have people that

488
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,680
it's like they don't want anything to do with you,

489
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,559
you know, because they don't like that comfortable energy, you know, right,

490
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,720
So it's like, you know from your heart center if

491
00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:51,200
somebody is being genuine. We've talked about that before too,

492
00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:53,519
And it is about the frequency and the heart and

493
00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:55,960
what you're thinking and what you're feeling. And love is

494
00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:01,880
the highest frequency. So as you start to grow wisdom

495
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:05,119
or whatever, you start to realize what matters to you,

496
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,960
what is really important. That's where making those lists to

497
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:13,160
come into play, all right, And also getting that energy

498
00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:16,359
out of emotions if it's bad energy, your resentment, anger

499
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,160
right down, why you're resentful towards somebody? Okay, right down,

500
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,119
while you're angry, I'm angry because he did this to me,

501
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,920
maybe look like a fool. I'm angry because he took

502
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,839
my finances or whatever, you know. And it's like, but

503
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,400
you can see it written down and then you can say,

504
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:33,720
holy cow, do I talk like that?

505
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: You know.

506
00:27:34,519 --> 00:27:37,599
Speaker 1: It's just like recording yourself, yes, and not even seeing

507
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,039
it recorded and then to realize did I do that?

508
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,440
And it's like, that's not how I want to come across,

509
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,799
you know, And so then you have to change it.

510
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,680
But you have to do something, and a lot of

511
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,519
people don't want to. They want everybody else to do

512
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:50,880
it for that right, and they want to blame everybody

513
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,000
else instead of looking at themselves.

514
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,079
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's hard work.

515
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: It's one of these things like I always equate it

516
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,519
with going to the gym, you know what I mean.

517
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:03,839
You've got to do this exercise to strengthen your body

518
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,799
and to do that, and you've got to do this

519
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,599
to strengthen your ability to kind of see things more

520
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,640
clearly exactly and be a little more tuned in and

521
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:15,359
tap tapped in and tuned on.

522
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,799
Speaker 1: Or whatever exactly enlightened, which questioned, Yes, it's all about

523
00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:22,640
it being enlightened as far as that there's other ways

524
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,079
of living of being happy. Right, there's other choices, and

525
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,640
you're awakened to the power that you already have just

526
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,480
tapping into it.

527
00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 4: Right.

528
00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: And then just serendipity and the synchronicity, how people come

529
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,400
into your life. A lot of times they come into

530
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,480
you and it doesn't mean anything, you don't really care.

531
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,559
And then they come back into your life to you know,

532
00:28:43,759 --> 00:28:47,960
twenty years later whatever, and then they're still evolving. Yeah,

533
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,400
and then you remember some of the things they said,

534
00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:54,119
and then this is the time to start asking questions. Well,

535
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,880
what do you do Well? I get up and I

536
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,000
meditate twenty minutes a day in the morning, I get

537
00:28:58,039 --> 00:28:59,839
up earlier. Oh I don't have that time. I got

538
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,960
to get to work. Well, you set the clock, you

539
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,160
go to bed earlier. Take responsibility, and the same with

540
00:29:05,319 --> 00:29:07,039
going to the gym. You feel better.

541
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the that's what I mean by the discipline

542
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,200
that sometimes you gets well.

543
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: I hate it's too easy to do things.

544
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: Right and we hear terms now like brain rot, I.

545
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:21,359
Speaker 3: Just scroll and scroll, put the phone down. Be disciplined.

546
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,440
If it's not making you happy, I used to say

547
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:26,680
often if if it doesn't make you happy, and it

548
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,799
doesn't and it doesn't make you money, why are you

549
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,319
doing it?

550
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 4: Wait?

551
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:32,519
Speaker 1: I don't take money, so there you go. Yeah, right,

552
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,640
so let's take a look at that. If it doesn't

553
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,720
make it happy, it doesn't make money. So the power

554
00:29:38,039 --> 00:29:41,319
of having money is an issue. Yes, okay, so we

555
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,960
got to take that away, like people like what, No,

556
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:48,079
you have to go with inside and then what's supposed

557
00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:50,440
to come to you will come to you. And also

558
00:29:50,839 --> 00:29:52,720
new opportunities will come out.

559
00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:54,839
Speaker 3: Yes, And I think if you just went with what

560
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,839
makes you happy, it will make you money exactly.

561
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,559
Speaker 4: Yes, all the abundance will come to you. God, but

562
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,640
you've but you got to go that way. Yeah, and

563
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,599
I think that, Uh, those are always the thing. They

564
00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:08,480
got a word.

565
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: Fault, Yes, my fault. So let's change that. Okay, how

566
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,319
about a lesson? How about a lesson?

567
00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 4: A lesson? Yes, yes, yes?

568
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: Or an opportunity or an opportunity. So many people have

569
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,839
said when they've hit their bottom, when their house burned down,

570
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,839
or when they lost their job, they got a better job,

571
00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:30,400
you know, when they have cancer. A lot of people

572
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,799
say I'm a survivor, and a lot of and people

573
00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:37,680
that I know also say, I don't feel like I

574
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,039
did anything wrong to deserve this. It just happened. It

575
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:43,960
was part of me being a human being, the experiences

576
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,400
that I learned to grow and be a better person

577
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,200
and to learn from it and not be hurt by it. Right,

578
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,319
So it is your thought process about it when you

579
00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:57,079
say it was your fault that triggers old things that

580
00:30:57,079 --> 00:30:59,880
you've been told that you must have done something bad

581
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:03,720
to how this happened. Yes, yes, yes, we come here

582
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,079
in the big classroom of Earth to learn these lessons

583
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,359
I've been told humans.

584
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:12,599
Speaker 3: I remember somebody saying to me, what is it about

585
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,240
you that.

586
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: Someone in there? Yes, it's the right.

587
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:22,319
Speaker 1: Thing, and this shows that you need to do different working.

588
00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:26,359
Speaker 3: For soften the words a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

589
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,119
I honestly, yeah, I.

590
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: Think that that's a negative word and that triggers something

591
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:32,119
inside guilt.

592
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,519
Speaker 3: Right Well, who hasn't yelled at you this is your

593
00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:37,400
fault that this happened.

594
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's what they're programmed to say. I need

595
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,279
to believe and you don't have to believe that. No,

596
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,400
that's their belief, not your belief.

597
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:46,519
Speaker 3: But if you start doing that, that's when they used

598
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:47,519
to put you in the looney bin.

599
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: Oh.

600
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: And also sometimes yeah, you lose a lot of people

601
00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:56,839
and and and it's sad because when you move like

602
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,799
I'm just gonna put an example, like if somebody was

603
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:03,079
a skid road boom, you know, and they were a

604
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:06,039
big executive and then they all the way through their addiction,

605
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,079
whether there's alcohol or whatever, ended up on skid road,

606
00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:11,480
all right, and then they hurt so many other people.

607
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,160
And then when they did hit skid road, they actually

608
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,839
came up from there. There was no other place to go.

609
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:22,720
And then they're involved in recovery stuff and helping other people.

610
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:24,640
And you can help a lot of other people, but

611
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,279
you can't help the people that you hurt. Your own family,

612
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:30,839
the things that you did in the past. Well that's true,

613
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,119
but it's also the family's choice not to forgive. It's

614
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,000
a family's choice is not to say, Okay, what's really

615
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:40,759
important here, it's about love. A lot of people are

616
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:43,000
hurt so bad that they don't want to even see

617
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,039
the person's face. You know, they don't want to be

618
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:48,359
in part of that, and that's that's very painful, but

619
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,440
it happens. And then what you have to do is, Okay,

620
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:54,400
what can I do to help others? What can I

621
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,119
do that's good? To make amends without you know, actually

622
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,240
going to the other person making amends, but that's how

623
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,759
you do. Sometimes you can't make amends to people that

624
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:06,319
aren't ready to receive it, and those are the ones

625
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:09,559
that are still in the old beliefs, old programming, old pain,

626
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,160
and it's fear.

627
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: I always wonder if when you croak yeah, and you

628
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,119
get on the other side and you look back and go, oh,

629
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,079
I did that wrong or not wrong, but I, oh,

630
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,279
that's not what that meant. That's not is there?

631
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's exactly why you reincarnate into another lifetime

632
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:35,680
so that you can change that like karmo type thing,

633
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,279
or you can learn a new lesson. Last I've always said,

634
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:43,599
we've had many, many lives and we've done everything. We've

635
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:46,359
been male, we've been female, we've been the abuser, we've

636
00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:48,920
been the abuse, we've been all that stuff, and it's

637
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,599
so that we can learn to do different in your

638
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,240
life or to learn something different. It happens all the time.

639
00:33:57,079 --> 00:34:00,160
The energy is changing. Now now we can change that.

640
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,319
That's what the ascension is all about, of awakening your soul.

641
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,119
A lot of people that you hear these words ascension.

642
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: What is this?

643
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: It's about doing different and it's like feeling happy inside

644
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,800
is like you, but you got to do the work.

645
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:18,599
And as you grow into a different person, all right,

646
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:22,719
and when you do transition into another life, you carry

647
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,719
everything that you've experienced into that new life. That's what's

648
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,960
different in the energy now is that we no longer

649
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:34,360
have to live in the negative energy loops by building

650
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,679
your soul to a higher frequency or higher consciousness. And

651
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:40,039
that's what they say, Oh, now you're going to be

652
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:43,719
a saint, right. It's like, oh no, no, I'm just

653
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,480
I just want to I want to do better, I

654
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:47,519
want to be happy. I want to help people. I

655
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:50,119
don't want to hurt people. Well, you're hurting people by

656
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,800
your neck because you're a saint. You no longer you

657
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,960
never come to here, You never do that anymore. It's like, okay,

658
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:58,639
so I choose not to. It's all the choices. Yes,

659
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,679
I can't say well I made a mist No, you

660
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,960
made a choice to make that mistake, just reason for it,

661
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:11,880
and you can move to a higher frequency understanding people.

662
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:13,719
And it's all about from the heart.

663
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: That yeah, I think that the idea and sometimes with

664
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:21,519
even words like fault which are heavy.

665
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,639
Speaker 1: Right that I picked up on that real quick.

666
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I often think.

667
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: But it also is that a word that can be

668
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:32,119
used to show you you have the power to change this.

669
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,559
So we can say it's your fault that great things

670
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:37,679
are happening, it's your fault that.

671
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's your blessing.

672
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,519
Speaker 4: Your bless I mean, the word needs to be changed.

673
00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: I understand the negativity, but sometimes I feel like when

674
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,440
you do the kind words it, people just miss it

675
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,599
as human beings. But fault, we all that one hits

676
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,239
that hits right right at home.

677
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:01,519
Speaker 1: Right, And that's what you take the folk. That's them

678
00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:04,559
taking the focus off themselves, putting the blame on you.

679
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:06,480
You know, it's not them. And those are the people

680
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:09,239
that you know, they're very a lot of times, very

681
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,280
unhappy people. Well, in April I have a bunch of things,

682
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,039
but at the end of the month, I have a

683
00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:20,000
practitioner days where I'm bringing a lot of practitioners in

684
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:21,719
the area that do this type of work, any type

685
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,599
of work, you know, whether it's just massage, therapists or whatever,

686
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,840
to bring them so that the community can learn about them.

687
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,840
And it's not anything We're going to go have a

688
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,000
reading or have a healing or anything. It is to

689
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:34,880
meet meet and greet different practitioners.

690
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 4: And then where is that?

691
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: That is actually at a center called Frequency Wellness Space

692
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:47,480
and it's on Elton Street in Rochester. It's between Atlantic

693
00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:51,280
Avenue and University and it's from one to three on

694
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,639
April twenty six. It's Saturday afternoon and it's free. It's free,

695
00:36:56,039 --> 00:36:59,039
just calm and meat and you can you know, enlighten

696
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:00,400
yourself things.

697
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

698
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: And then and then in May I have my own

699
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,519
classes that I do. The first weekend will be my

700
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:11,199
integrated Energy Therapy with the angels. That's uh, you can

701
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,960
learn to heal yourself. And then in the middle of May,

702
00:37:14,039 --> 00:37:16,800
I have a master's class. So there's actually four levels.

703
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 4: Wow.

704
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: So I mean I have something going all the time.

705
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,880
And you can always check my website Shielatillik dot com. Okay,

706
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:28,000
get on my email list, subscribe, you know, and take

707
00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:30,519
what you needly the rest A lot of people like

708
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:33,920
this I don't like that, that's fine. Yeah, And I

709
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,360
have sessions, individual personal sessions all the time. Yeah, it's

710
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only one hundred and twenty two dollars. A lot of

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people say, I can't afford that, Okay, Well, one hundred

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and twenty two dollars isn't bad for an hour's worth

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of healing. No, it's a at all, you know. And

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then you can do mentoring, which is another price. And

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I have a community of people that are like mine.

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They want to stay in this positive energy, They want

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to be out there in the crazy.

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Speaker 3: World, right, And you can be among that and stay

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on that higher frequence.

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Speaker 1: Be part of yeah. Yeah, and you make a difference

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and you push that ripple.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Sheila, it's lovely to see you again, and

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thank you for another great episode of bill Lightenment.

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Speaker 1: In your hands. No break the chains and watch the fall.

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You've got the strength to stand home.

