Speaker 1: You've got a mountain inside your chats. It's been a while.
Speaker 2: Just wait and scrush looks into the fog. Can clench
your fist, strike a small good night goodness. She the
earth beneath your souls swung deep. You're in patrol. Weis loud.
Let them hear every answers in your mirror.
Speaker 3: Steven Shela Tillick is back. For those who don't know,
may not be familiar. She's a metaphysical minister, recovery, metaphysician,
and international energy healer with a background in healthcare, which
I always think is really really helpful and great you
were at Rochester General Hospital. She now focuses on holistic
energy practices to assist individuals and their healing journeys, and
also does therapy right with oh yeah, like that's the thing.
So there are a few things on my mind today,
and particularly the idea of letting go, which is right
and so it sounds so simple, yet I feel like
we cling, we revisit, we assign meaning to pass situations
that maybe don't need the meaning and it. Lately my
perspective has shifted. I find myself tracing things back to
their roots and go, well, this no longer serves me, right,
it's bullshit, It doesn't serve me. But what if the
resentment is still lodged deep woven in the fabric of
my being or as you say, the issue and your tissues?
You know, how do we truly let that go? And
that that seems to be the real work. But the
question sometimes it is how, like what practices can people
do to sort of go back and go I gotta
let this go.
Speaker 1: I don't know how, go inside, go inside and just stop,
you know, and be in the present moment. And we've
talked about that all the time, but we are so
busy living, you know, we got to do this, We
got to do that. And then when situations come up,
like the resentment, we don't know where they come from,
but there are many, many layers, and so be quiet,
be in the present moment, relax and also get help
like me, talk about you know, the root issues. What
are the issues and the tissues? Why are you feeling
the resentment? Why are you feeling like you always got
to be in control? And it has to do with
survival and what we've been programmed to believe limits us.
It limits us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the programming, it's interesting because I'm even thinking of
people in my life that can go back to situations
that are over fifty years. Oh, they remember it, don't they,
And they go right back to it and it can.
Speaker 1: Actually ruin in their day astely.
Speaker 3: And it's something that happened so long ago, but they
can't let it. It's like it's in there. And that's
the thing, is like what how do we Because the
idea is you got to reach for the better feeling
thought and that sounds so simple.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's more to it.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's deep, right.
Speaker 1: It's also it's in the heart center you know who
you are as a divine bed. Also you're thinking and
your thought process, right, it is the emotions that come out.
It's like, where does this emotion come out? I wasn't
thinking anything about that. But as you live every day
and try to make a living and do what you
what you do in your best the best you can,
you know, and then all of a sudden it blows up.
It's like, what did I do wrong? Sometimes it wasn't you.
It was being in the actual situation that happened, but
it really wasn't your fault. But it's also part of
you letting go. We talked about letting go and do different,
all right, so that didn't work, So maybe I should
do this. But we always take it on. We take
it on.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we take it on. We take it's personal everything.
Sometimes that's the emotions.
Speaker 1: So when you talk about the heart and the thoughts,
the emotions come from the things that you see and
do and feel.
Speaker 3: Is it fair to say are what isness right now
is old news. It's stuff that you brought forth and
so whatever.
Speaker 1: It's old distorted energy loops. Okay, So remember it's all
about energy, your thoughts, your behaviors, your beliefs, things that
you've been learned, you learned, but also things that are
stuck and a lot of times are old distorted energy loops,
the things that you were programmed. And also society. Society,
it's a big one. We are changing so quickly and
it has to change, but it's following the actual the
order of change, what is supposed to happen for humanity,
and a lot of people don't understand that, but on
an in visual level, it's happening to all of us.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: The change is too fast, but there's also a reason
for that. But we're all going through the issues and
the tissues, the anger, the resentment, the control, you know,
the why isn't it working? That's self doubt, yes, And
the self doubt has to do with not feeling good
enough or worthy enough, and it's within the cellular memory
of the body. In other words, it's inside.
Speaker 3: So when I say, like the the we get trapped
in what isness of life right right now with a
lack of money, a person not in your life, a
job that isn't there, or whatever else we feel is missing.
And in doing so, I feel like we stay stuck
there because that's where we're focused exactly.
Speaker 1: That's what my role is. Get unstuck, you know, unstuck
from things that no longer serve you. And you keep
doing the same thing, you can get the same results.
So we always go back to that. But it is
it's about change and evolving of things don't work for
you anymore. It's like, why why is this not happening?
It's because it's time to do different, And that's what
the learning is all about and going with inside and
asking for help. And you know, the answers do come
to you when you just listen and get out of
the old thinking, get out of the old thinking. I'm
not good enough. I you know, here we go again.
Speaker 3: Woe is me?
Speaker 1: Yes, So that's the emotions.
Speaker 3: I think in the when I think about how do
we break that cycle? Is it just merely thought? This
is where I believe things like meditation where you calm
the brain right, try to.
Speaker 1: And the energy that you're around. Energy is the big one,
and how you put input into your brain, what you watch,
what you see, what you listen to. But the people also,
everybody's going through this and a lot of people aren't
ready to move on and they say they want to
stay stuck. But you get in the middle of that
energy and you feel that, and that's what the triggers are.
Speaker 3: Ok.
Speaker 1: Those are like something triggered you, well, something something somebody said,
or something you've seen, or something you don't believe or
something is like that's ridiculous, doesn't make any sense. You know,
it's like why can't they see? And it's like you
can see it, but why can't they? There's the anger
comes up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so when you do healing work, any type of
healing work, meditation is great, actually energy healing. What I
do is I bring your best self forward. All right,
Your soul knows what needs to be healed, and it's
you take an action to Okay, I gotta do something different,
and so you take the action. Just like with a
session that you've had, you're you have another one. But
it's all about going with the inside and doing different.
But sometimes you don't know what to do, and that's
why you say I'm stuck. I'm stuck. Yeah, so we
have to do it slowly. And this is a society
of fast pace, oh yeah. And the problem is is
that what is happening now. The energy is fast paced
and it's putting out there into us and we're used
to it. Okay, this is what we're program to do.
Speaker 3: La la la.
Speaker 1: We're going to go through our day and this is
what's going to happen. But now is what is. Things
are changing profusely every single day, and it's just all
of us are out of whack. Our electromagnetic field is
out of whack. So when you talk about energy, you
talk about the systems within your body, how you process thing,
how you think your emotions.
Speaker 3: So to sort of shield yourself.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you put the big you know, the hand up,
you know, talk to the hand time talk to the hand,
you know, and because that's what you've learned. When you
don't want to face anything, talk to them. It's like
it doesn't work that way because the hand is like okay,
and it shows you that you're not worthy enough to
be heard and that other persons stopping you right right,
So then it triggers the old emotions that's within the
layers of the energy field. When I talk about the
old distorted energy loops, those are distortion means. It doesn't
serve you, but it's the way it was to survive, right.
So that's why it's a new way of thinking. That's
what this new energy is about. I was that you
got to really look deep inside and start to change
things deep inside, you know. And because they're all going
to pop up. I always call it like the wakamo.
It pops up all over your body, you know, the guilt,
you know, the.
Speaker 3: So with things like guilt and shame and all that.
And it always I feel like it's such a simple process.
I feel like it's like very simple go for the
better feeling thought, being optimistic. You always feel better. That's
your true self, that's your true thing. And when I
say we get caught up in the what isness, the
lack of whatever, or the guilt or the whatever it is.
Or you are talking to somebody and they're telling you
about your own life, giving you advice, and it's opposite
of the way you were thinking when you were really
feeling good, and now you feel like shit and you
don't know what to do when you're all and you
become like this ping pong ball, and I go, there's
got to be a way for you to go inside
and almost steal yourself and go because I always say,
the world is never going to stop coming at you,
but what your reaction is to it is better. And
if you can see things for what they are and
you just want to be happy, and everything goes better
when you're happy. It's just, boy, we get caught up
and it's hard to let all that go. And that's
where I think sometimes I go do practices like meditation,
having a steady meditation practice actually raise your vibration and
sort of let you see things that are better. And
you know, it's boy, I can It feels like it's
so easy to say and not easy to do. Oh.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's the work, and that's what really makes you mad.
Is because sometimes most people try to give you advice
or tell you what they would do. It's like it's
just herritates what's not. You feel lower than, not good enough,
and you can't accomplish that. So you feel like they're
not listening to me. All they're doing is pulling, putting
their stuff onto me. That's not what I'm saying. That's
the control stuff. And so so as you start to
self heal, when you go with inside and start to
unravel all those pieces of codes and thoughts and behaviors
that are deep down inside how you survive, you start
to let the good stuff come through. The good stuff
meaning thoughts of doing different, totally different. And then it's
about you're raising your vibration. You were talking about that,
your consciousness vibration. And it's an inside job. You've got
to do it inside yourself. Nobody else can do. So
that's why a lot of people like me, you know,
we've been through it, and we go through it every
single day, and we go back and forth just like
everybody else, a yo yo, a yo yo, with our
emotions and it is going up and down. But go
with inside. Look for people that can help you. Go withinside,
and start to heal. Now, as a practitioner, what I do,
I'm just the conduit your own DNA, your inside ability.
As a human. You have a spiritual side. That spiritual
side controls everything. A lot of people say, well, that
doesn't make any sense. Well, it does because we are
electromagnetic fields and bodies, and so as you start to
go with inside, you start to have the peace and
it starts to repair the things that got discombobulated. Right,
all right, So that's the advantage of doing energy work,
but also figuring out what are you stuck on?
Speaker 3: What's your hang up?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of times, you know, mental medicine,
which is wonderful. We've got to go beyond that. You know,
I've did all that. I know that it came from that.
That there's so much more of who we are and
our abilities. A lot of they don't know who to
go to. But it takes time. You know, you just
can't take it. You eat the whole elephant at once.
And we want to.
Speaker 3: We want to, yes, well we want. I often think
that you have the power to change things instantaneously. You do,
but we don't believe it. Why Why can't we? Why
can't we all of a sudden go.
Speaker 1: That's the programming. Okay, it limits you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now think about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's what you've always been taught. So that's
what you're gonna believe. However, evidence is coming out that
I'm not happy, I gotta do something. I'm stuck, and
that's where I come in. That's where I come in.
And let's break it down slowly. What are you feeling. Oh,
I don't want to talk about my feelings. I want
to talk about this person, what they did to me. Yes,
it's like we're not talking about that person. They're not here.
We're talking about you. And so that's why it's the
inside job.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: And so by doing energy work, what you do is
slowly unravel all those distorted loops of energy that kept
you stuck doing the same thing over and over again.
What you're a programmer do. Things are all changing now,
everything's changing, and it's new opportunities if you look at
it as an opportunity, if you look at it as
oh my god, we're going this is you know, the
world's gonna end type thing. And that's how people are
because they are so stuck in that energy that they
they're scared. It's the fear. What's we talked about many
times about the love and the fear. And as you
start to heal, you start to come for a more
heart center vibration. So when you're talking to somebody that's
telling you what to do and how to do it,
and you really just get mad because it's like, you
not listen to anything I'm saying. That's not how I'm feeling,
that's what they're feeling. You can actually not react to it.
What you can do is when you train yourself and
you go inside and heal yourself first, then you resonate
a different frequency out, you know, and not get so
angry with people or what they say, or you don't
have to contribute to it. Just like pick your battles
type thing.
Speaker 3: Well, it is a pick your battles type thing. And
there's always there's some people that, let's say it's somebody
at your job that always rubs you the wrong way, right,
and everybody has something like that. Is it possible to
almost focus on the good attributes of that person, absolutely
and get more of that from that's less of the bad.
Speaker 1: That's what you do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And does it help to like write those things
down only because there's a connection somehow it makes it well.
Speaker 1: That's what you're talking about journally, you know, yeah, or
even just like gratefulest, like no, I really like this person.
I like that they can do this and this, and
you know their their relationship with this, and then you
can write the other column. It's not you didn't listen
to me, you know, I want want some help here
and always tell me is what he would do. But
that's good. I can take some of the stuff what
he do. But I don't feel like I'm getting unstuck. Yeah,
I feel like I'm still stuck in the same situation,
right because you're still going to the same person who
isn't where you you're at, right, all right, they're not.
That's the that's the changing the frequency. You don't resonate
with that frequency anymore, meaning you don't resonate with those people,
places and things, or it's not a good you know,
I need other kind of help, or I need to
be in a different moving on in a different direction,
and a lot of people don't want to because they
have the fear, you know. So it's like a great,
big it's a big energy loop and you're talking about
the ping pong, absolutely, but it's also about going within
and the energy and the ability that you have. And
a lot of us have told us a bunch of bullshit,
you know, and religion talking Oh that's that's that's evil,
that's the devil. Well, what is going on is the
different duality of the energy and the energies in your
in your brain, the vibration in your brain, which you're thinking.
Speaker 3: I almost often think now right, you talk religion and
all the things.
Speaker 1: That we were been there, done that to schooled in
and good stuff and bad stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm starting to think, like we all have
the ability that that Jesus or Yeshua, however you had
or has, and you still you can evoke that within you.
You can you can move mountains. But it sounds easy
to say. And then you find resistance somewhere or contrast
in something, and it brings you right back. And it
is how we're programmed.
Speaker 1: It's programming. It's keeping you stuck doing that stuff. Right,
if you don't do this, this is what's going to happen. Well,
sometimes this is what's going to happen. Happens because you
you believe that this is what's going to happen. But
when you start to wake up, this is all about
waking up, waking up to the ability and the power
that you have. You know, a lot of people don't
believe they have power. Is because of all these programmings
and they've been told they don't have the power. Only
God has the power, right, you know, and you're this
is what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: But you are an extension of source energy. You are
that energy.
Speaker 1: You are and everything that Jesus talks about is love
and helps people not be little people and put people
back down or you know, it be in that negative
vibration of what their thoughts and what they need to do,
you know, And so that is all those negative energy
loops that it's inside for survival. So when you get
to the point where you're stuck and you feel like
I can't survive anything, I just I just want to
check out of here, which it happens all the time, right,
And that's what's happening now, is that it is moving
so quickly that so many people are just beside themselves
the anxiety and the stress. And that's why as a
as a heart math coach, stress and trauma, what is
stored withinside the body. But you can go inside the
body with your thoughts and bring it back to your
emotions of love, right, you know. And that's why that works.
And that's measurable data, that's scientifically, but that's not accepted
as well as a mainstream or the programming that you've
always known.
Speaker 3: Well we yeah, we're always told you got to grind
it out, you know, work real hard.
Speaker 1: And should be rewarded. And this is what's going to happen.
If you don't do that, you're going to fail. Yeah,
you're gonna end up on the street like that bomb.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And I don't know that that's necessarily true. I think
you've got to go with pure positive energy thought. Let
that be your guide, Let that be the thing that
brings you to different places. But it's again it's easier
said than done. We fall back on what we were
programmed to and so this is this doesn't work. And
then you go, well this it's these people are crazy,
these people are nice.
Speaker 1: Work. It might be good for you, but it doesn't
work for me, you know, and that that's called moving on.
But also you don't disrespect them or not glad that
you had a relationship with them, because that's part of
your growth, right. But the thing is is that they
no longer serve you, right, And that's we're serving what
no longer releasing, what no longer serves you is all about.
And that's what this energy is all about. As far
as we can change, we can move forward in a
more healthier manner individually with our lives by becoming unstuck,
being aware of what you're stuck with. Like you talked
about resentment, yes, all right, and you talk about you know,
income and money and surviving and that's all stuff we've
been programmed. But when we turn it over, let God,
let go, as they say, but turn it over, and
what does that mean? What does that mean?
Speaker 3: What does it mean? And that that's my question, Like,
because it's so easy to go, let go, I'm not
going to think about it. I'll just let go. Everything's
going to be fine.
Speaker 1: But you know, and everybody has their own journey, they
have their own bottom that they're going to hit, and
they're going to have their own experiences that they're going
to hit, you know, And that's part of us growing
as souls, building the wisdom, the wisdom that's instant side
of us, and we can use that. A lot of
people say, yeah, but in wisdom, I'm going to stay
away from that guy because this guy is going you know,
it's like, so that's being sarcastic, but it also shows
that they don't believe it, yes, because they've been hurt,
they've been programmed that it really doesn't work. You've got
to do this path or it's not going to work right,
and society is showing that now. But all the changes
that are happening and they're they're freaking out is because
they don't want to handle it. And that's what we're
all going through. We're going through this pain and this
energetic change in humanity and it's happening to the whole world.
It's just not us. However, it will get better because
it shows it's changing if you look back. That's why
I always say, look back where you were twenty years ago,
thirty years ago, your childhood, whatever, What are your beliefs now?
You know who are your friends? Do you still have
the same friends? Most likely you don't is because you
grew outgrew those people. That's the same with your wisdom
and the things that you learn. You've outgrown it, you know,
and and but you use the information, use the intelligence
from it, because that's how you grow to be a
more enlightened soul or a more energetic person, or get
from here to there. But there's all different ways of
going from here to there, and that's where you got
to You gotta start from the beginning. You got to
back up, back up, And that's why I always talk
about going to the root costs. How did that happen
in the first place. And that's what energy work does,
and it allows taking layer upon layer apart, taking it off,
and then your own spirituality or your innate body, your soul,
your knowing starts to work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's strange because I do think that I've heard
people say what you are physically is two percent of
what you are spiritually, Like this.
Speaker 1: Is just well, it's actually absolutely absolutely we have so
much ability as spiritual beings. It's intuition, right, and a
lot of times we years ago, we used to call it,
you know sixth sense. Oh, you know sixth sense. You know,
don't don't don't look good to that person because they're
going to they see things or whatever. Well, it's our
ability to know things and We've talked about this before,
about going going to work and all of a sudden
you say, hey, I'm going to go down this way
and say and you you prevent it being in an accident,
you know, but you listen to your sixth sense. Where
is that coming from? You have the ability and just
like you know mothers and fathers, you know that, you know,
you teach them so certain things so that they won't
get hurt. However, sometimes they have to fall by themselves
and they have to learn for themselves. But you give
them the tools. That's the best you can do. You
know a lot of times when they don't do what
you want to do, then you feel like a failure.
Why do you feel like a failure? And you're not
a failure, You're you're an individual soul and they are
an individual soul. And that's what we talked about before
we started here talking. And it's like it's true, is
that we're here to learn as a divine soul, right,
you know, and you know most religions talk about that
about God, your soul or whatever, but it's like it's distorted.
Speaker 3: Well, I always feel like whatever message was we misinterpreted
and was used to control people or convince them of
certain things, and there's really no assertion, but we since
we believe it is that, therefore it'll be and and
we've got to do this, and you kind of keep
people under thumb. And there's so many people are yeah,
and I'm starting to go, well, I think this is
all kind of wrong.
Speaker 1: It is wrong you think about that. What also is
wrong is that they can never find out who they
truly are if they keep doing the same thing. Right,
but things that are wrong is the way that it's
always been for that for many people. A lot of
people are saying, I don't believe that. You know, they
start to go in their own power, and just like
with a kid, you know, you're raising the best you
can and then when they become adults, they make their
own choices, good or bad. However, it's about their own
independence as an individual, right, you know, we're all independent.
We carry a lot of the stuff from that where
we came from. But also it's about choices, and it's
about growing, you.
Speaker 3: Know, evol Yeah, growing and evolving, growing, involving, which is
very important. And it's just the whole thing is is
so odd because you do I started even to think
of this, How do we get to this point? Everything's
always evolving, Our society is always evolving. But sometimes I
think we lose what we knew, if that makes sense,
Like things that we knew we knew inherently that you know,
for example, uh, eating and what we ate. And if
you look at people, you go back to like over
maybe close to one hundred years, what we weren't is unhealthy.
Oh yeah, and we're and now we've got all these
people on messages of how they can help you get healthy,
and I go, well, why how did they do it
back then?
Speaker 1: And that's why society has changed so much, you know,
how you look at society, how you do things, the
food that we eat, you know, the things that we do,
you know, you know, all electronics instead of going out
there and kickball, yes, which we did, you know, and
rud light green light and jumping Jackson jump rope, and
you know, we can go on about that. And that's
just back in the sixties, fifties and fifty and sixties,
you know, And so now it's it's totally different.
Speaker 3: Well it is, and we get I often feel like
we like to be in the know. We're nosy, we
don't want to admit that necessarily, but we like knowing
the different gossip in the news and did you see this?
And you say that, and I go, I feel like
we get too much. We're not built to get all
this information, and that it throws you off because now
you're thinking is more comparative and I don't have or whatever,
and we lose these things. And I'm starting to really
think that the one thing that will bring us all
back is discipline and a self discipline in terms of
what really makes you happy. If you discipline yourself to that,
you'll actually feel better exactly, you know what I mean.
A discipline of going to bed at a certain time,
eating a certain way, avoiding not and I'm saying not
have fun in that but almost like a simpler well, it's.
Speaker 1: Self and self care. Yeah, it's it's about it's steered again,
about going inside. Yes, and it's all it's always an
inside job. And a lot of people say, yeah, but
you don't understand, you know, my pressures and everything and
what I deal with. And that's where the choices come in,
right turn off the TV or listen to different TV.
And that's you know, that's a big one right there.
The manipulation and the mind control affects the consciousness field.
All right, So what you think is what you will
get if you think that you're not good enough or
this is never going to work, or turn the focus
on something else instead of what you need to change
in your self. That's about growing involving changing yourself first.
And a lot of people want to just do it overnight,
the magic.
Speaker 3: Pill, right exactly.
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen that way. No, it doesn't happen that way.
Speaker 3: And it's part of uh, the journey, as we said,
it's the journey, the journey.
Speaker 1: And it's about your individuality and evolving into something.
Speaker 3: That's the thing is like the power is within you,
within it. And sometimes I almost feel like you got
to simplify things and realize and stop attaching meaning to
certain things exactly.
Speaker 1: And also old beliefs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, old beliefs, well, going back to the resentment
and the things that are.
Speaker 1: And then also when you talk to somebody like me
that do different, they they say, well, how they can
feel the energy different and they feel comfortable coming out
and talking to me. And then you have people that
it's like they don't want anything to do with you.
You know, because they don't like that comfortable energy, you know, right,
So it's like you know from your heart center if
somebody is being genuine. We've talked about that before too,
and it is about the frequency and the heart and
what you're thinking and what you're feeling. And love is
the highest frequency. So as you start to grow wisdom
or whatever, you start to realize what matters to you,
what is really important. That's where making those lists to
come into play, all right, and also getting that energy
out of emotions if it's bad energy, your resentment, anger
right down, why you're resentful towards somebody right down? While
you're angry, I'm angry because he did this to me,
Maybe look like a fool. I'm angry because he took
my finances or whatever, you know, And it's like, but
you can see it written down and then you can say,
holy cow, do I talk like that? You know. It's
just like recording yourself and not even seeing it recorded
and then to realize did.
Speaker 3: I do that?
Speaker 1: And it's like, that's not how I want to come across,
you know, And so then you have to change it,
have to do something, and a lot of people don't
want it. They want everybody else to do it for that, right,
and they want to blame everybody else instead of looking
at themselves.
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's hard work. It's one of these things
like I almost equate it with going to the gym,
you know what I mean. You've got to do this
exercise to strengthen your body and to do that, and
you've got to do this to strengthen your ability to
kind of see things more clearly, exactly and be a
little more tuned in and tap tapped in and tuned
on or whatever.
Speaker 1: Exactly enlightened, yes, exactly, all about it being enlightened as
far as that there's other ways of living of being happy, right,
there's other choices, and you're awakened to the power that
you already have just tapping into it.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: And then the serendipity and the synchronicity how people come
into your life. A lot of times they come into
you and it doesn't mean anything, you don't really care.
And then they come back into your life to you know,
twenty years later or whatever, and then and they're still evolving,
and then you remember some of the things they said,
and then this is the time to start asking questions. Well,
what do you do. Well, I get up and I
meditate twenty minutes a day in the morning, I get
up earlier. Oh I don't have that time. I got
to get to work. Well, you set the clock, you
go to bed earlier. Take responsibility, and the same with
going to the gym. You feel better.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's that's what I mean by the discipline that
sometimes you gets what I hate.
Speaker 1: It's too easy to do things right.
Speaker 3: And we hear terms now like brain rot, I just
scroll and scroll, put the phone down. Be disciplined. If
it's not making you happy, I used to say often
if if it doesn't make you happy, and it doesn't
and it doesn't make you money, why are you doing it?
Speaker 1: Wait, I don't say so money, So there you go.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, so let's take a look at that.
Speaker 1: If it doesn't make it happy, it doesn't make money.
So the power of having money is an issue. Yes, okay,
so we got to take that away, like people like
what no have to go with inside and then what's
supposed to come to you will come to you, and
also new opportunities will come out.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I think if you just went with what
makes you happy, it will make you money. Exactly. Yes,
all the abundance will come to you. You got but
you but you got to go that way. Yeah, and
I think that, uh, those are always the things they
say are so much easier said than done.
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely absolutely. But that's where the synchronoicity comes in.
You know, somebody and they talked this way before, and
you know, yeah, you know, and then twenty years later
they're still on the same good path. And then you
start asking them and then you say, hmm, maybe I
ought to take a look at this. Maybe I got
to write a list every day. Maybe I ought to
get up fifteen minutes and just sit there and just
be in the present moment.
Speaker 3: Just baby bites, right, baby bite Yes, Okay, I see that. Now,
this to me is so great to hear. Yeah, baby,
because and it is baby bites, and it is this thing,
and it would just be like, you know, you start
working out and maybe you can go uh equated to running,
you can run a half mile NonStop, and you just
build and build and build and build and build, and
your endurance and I think it's the same thing with everything,
but we don't apply it. It's either woo woo or it's
weird or I can't or all of a sudden, I
get I'm feeling something or I'm uncovering things within me
that I don't like. So avoidance is that is a
wonderful thing. Or escape through alcohol or drugs or whatever
is a wonderful thing exactly.
Speaker 1: But the electronics advices, yes. Now, you know the social media,
you know the acts, the the you know the media,
all different types of media, and you know you get hooked. Yeah,
but it takes you out of yourself. It does while
you get out hooked, Yes, because it's too uncomfortable to
go inside.
Speaker 3: That's where the real I'm not good enough?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: Yeah, where does that come from? Like the you? Yeah,
we really all of us. I think all of us
feel like we're not good enough for something.
Speaker 1: Is because what's put upon us. You know, you got
to do this or this is what's going to happen.
But things are happening, things are changing. We don't have
any choice. So you can look at it. Okay, it's
a good thing or it's a bad thing. You can
fight it and say, okay, I'm going to go with it.
I'm just going to trust that this is where we
need to be and that's what's happening, and that's why
so many people are having all this anxiety and this
stress and all these emotions are coming out because it
has to do with the energy field that is put
out there and how you use that in your life.
Speaker 3: Okay, the energy feel that's being put out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have to keep bringing that back over
and again, but it is. That's why I'm an energy metaphysician,
and I talk about recovery stuff from things that no
longer serve your thoughts, behaviors, people, And if that's what
it's about, and I go inside, If.
Speaker 3: You go inside and just focus on being happy and content,
it feels like everything around you is better. And when
you don't feel well, like you know, and this was
never anything I saw. I've been saying this a lot lately.
Like we mimic. That's how we learn, right. You learn
to talk, you learn to like as a as a child,
you mimic the adults. You do what the adults do,
sign and thing. Everything's mimic, mimic, mimic. But sometimes you
start to realize these aren't who you are or they
don't work for you, and so you're mimicking something that
and that's the programming, and it's how do you kind
of break that? And you start to see things You're like, wow,
that person is it's almost sad because they're so stuck
in this resentment or they get so angry about this
and there's no movement forward, right and.
Speaker 1: We are moving forward, and that's the problem. That's the
problem because people don't know how to handle it. That's
where all these emotions are coming out, the craziness that's happening.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: But if you trust, Okay, this is happening for a reason.
I'm going to trust that I'm here for a reason, okay,
and that I'm still going to live for quite a while,
and so I need to do the best I can
with it and not let my emotions and everything that's
going on inside, the pain and the anger and stuff
come out and say, Okay, I'm going to stop this.
I'm going to stop this. That's exactly what this is.
This program is all about enlightening to a new way
of looking at life, looking at new options that you have,
new opportunities, you know, and energy healing is very good.
You can learn how to do it yourself. That costs
you nothing, you know, But you also need to come
to me so I can show.
Speaker 3: You exactly what to do. What is that?
Speaker 1: And then what you do is you pass it on
without expect any expectations coming back. That's the key, and
that's how you know if it's if it's really from
the heart, is because you want to give away so
you can keep it. You want to give away the
love or being a better person so that you can
keep it yourself and keep moving forward.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because I've often heard somebody who channels, and
I always think that channeling. I absolutely believe that it's true.
People can do it. I think what has happened over
the years, there's probably been a few charlatans along the way,
lots of them, which sort of takes away from right,
and so we don't trust or believe. And there is
one guy that is all over social media that I
see anyway, and he always says he channels somebody from
another universe, Yeah, another universe, like a whole other being
and tells us how to be. And one of the
things is in every moment, you have a choice, make
the choice that feels the best, do it to its
fullest without any expectation of outcome, and everything will be wonderful.
And that's exactly what you just said, exactly.
Speaker 1: It's about you give it away without expecting anything in return.
It's about giving it away so you can keep it yourself.
And then it is a ricochet or ripple effect around
the earth, right, And that has to do with the
energy field of what's happening. And there are many people
like me and like you that are wakening up, that
are saying, I'm not happy what's going on here, feeling stuck,
and when they start to change, they start to emanate
that energy out and those are like that the matrix
field around the earth, it lights up, it lights up
with light and the conciousness grid in that area. It's
all about the frequency. And that's what a lot of
energy healers are. They are lights that light up this
light of consciousness energy which is good. You feel We
feel good, yeah, And it's all from the heart. That's
what heart math is all about, scientifically proving that our
thoughts are energy and our energy are thoughts and we
can make a difference.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Look like after nine to eleven, which I've shared this before,
two days after for two full days after nine to eleven,
we all were so loving and compassionate and stuff like that,
and it was actually measured scientifically that this was happening.
That is because we all seen it on live TV
what was going on, and we send out the compassion
who we really are as humans. And when you give
it away, you feel that compassion, right, you feel the compassion.
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this because the thoughts or
popped in my head. And I know we're a little
all over the place, but when people say everything that
happens to you, I've heard everything that happens to you
is your fault, okay, which is a tough word, right,
and tough thing to hear, but I almost wonder if
it's a wonderful word because it makes you realize, oh,
I have the power. I can change this at any time.
I have the power. But that we're on, you know,
and I'll say things like like, let's say something like
a car accident, somebody runs a red light and hits you.
But is that something you were on? That vibration? You've
got something And sometimes like for example, I don't know,
we look at I'll give I'll take something from the news. Recently,
the wildfires in California and somebody's house burns down and
the house next door does not, And you say, oh,
why would that happen? But we don't know what that
person's journey is, and we don't know what their future
could be so much better because this had to happen
to release or they had to go through this thing.
And you say that to people and they want to like,
what are you fucking crazy? Why how could you say that?
And you never want to say it, but I but
I wonder, is that really what's happening? Is that the
belief like everything, as you said, everything happens for a reason.
You're here for a reason. You said that earlier, and
everything happens, I'm thinking for a reason. And sometimes to
tell you to raise your vibration a little bit, and
you don't get those things. You don't attract the problem
is as much. But sometimes when you're on that lower frequency, man,
it's it's like a momentum. You get up, you stub
your toe, and then you spill your coffee on your
shirt on the way in, and then then yeah.
Speaker 1: Full, why me, here we go. And so you put
that energy out there and you keep getting you know,
the negative stuff happening. So you said a word called
fault yes, my fault, So let's change that. Okay, how
about a lesson? How about a lesson?
Speaker 3: A lesson? Yes, yes, yes, or an opportunity or an opportunity.
Speaker 1: So many people have said when they've hit their bottom,
when their house burned down, or when they lost their job,
they got a better job, you know, when they have cancer.
A lot of people say I'm a survivor, and a
lot of and people that I know also say, I
don't feel like I did anything wrong to deserve this.
It just happened. It was part of me being a
human being, the experiences that I learned to grow and
be a better person and to learn from it and
not be hurt by it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So it is your thought process about it when you
say it was your fault, that triggers old things that
you've been told that you must have done something bad
to have this happened.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, we.
Speaker 1: Come here in the big classroom of Earth to learn
these lessons.
Speaker 3: I've been told us. I remember somebody saying to me,
what is it about you that this happened? What are
you doing? But but there is some someone in there,
Yes it's the right thing.
Speaker 1: And this shows that you need to do different working.
Speaker 3: For soften the words a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I honestly, yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: That that's a negative word.
Speaker 3: Yes it is.
Speaker 1: And that triggers something inside gilt.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, who is a gel that you This is
your fault that this happened.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's what they're programmed to say. I need
to believe And you don't have to believe that. No,
that's their belief, not your belief.
Speaker 3: But if you start doing that, that's when they used
to put you in the looney bin.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: And also sometimes, yeah, you lose a lot of people
and and and it's sad because when you move like
I'm just gonna put an example, like if somebody was
a boom skid row boom, you know, and they were
a big executive, and then they all the way through
their addiction, whether there's alcohol or whatever, ended up on
skid road, right, and then they hurt so many other people.
And then when they did hit skid road, they actually
came up from there there was no other place to go.
And then they're involved in recovery stuff and helping other people.
And you can help a lot of other people, but
you can't help the people that you hurt. Your own family,
the things that you did in the past. Well, that's true,
but it's also the family's choice not to forgive. It's
a family's choice is not to say, Okay, what's really
important here? It's about love. But a lot of people
are hurt so bad that they don't want to even
see the person's face, you know, they don't want to
be a.
Speaker 3: Part of that.
Speaker 1: And that's very painful, but it happens. And then what
you have to do is, Okay, what can I do
to help others? What can I do that's good? To
make amends without you know, actually going to the other
person making amends, but that's how you do. Sometimes you
can't make amends to people that aren't ready to receive it,
and those are the ones that are still in the
old beliefs, old programming, old pain, and it's fear.
Speaker 3: I always wonder if when you croak yeah, and you
get on the other side and you look back and go, oh,
I did that wrong or not wrong, but I, oh,
that's not what that meant. That's not is there?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's exactly why you reincarnate into another lifetime
so that you can change that, like karmo type thing.
Or you can learn a new lessons. I've always said,
we've had many, many lives and we've done everything. We've
been male, we've been female, we've been the abuser, we've
been the abuse, We've been all that stuff. And it's
so that we can learn to do different in your
life or to learn something different. It happens all the time.
The energy is changing. Now now we can change that.
That's what the ascension is all about, of a wing
your soul. A lot of people that you hear these
words ascension, what is this? It's about doing different and
it's like feeling happy inside is like you, but you
got to do the work. And as you grow into
a different person, all right, and when you do transition
into another life, you carry everything that you've experienced into
that new life. That's what's different in the energy now
is that we no longer have to live in the
negative energy loops. By building your soul to a higher
frequency or higher consciousness. And that's what they say, Oh,
now you're going to be a saint, right. It's like,
oh no, no, I'm just I just want to I
want to be better, I want to be happy, I
want to help people. I don't want to hurt people,
Well you're hurting people by say your neck. Because you're
a saint. You no longer you never come to hear
you never do that anymore. It's like, okay, so I
choose not to. It's all my choices. Yes, I can't say,
well I made a mistake. No, you made a choice.
Make that mistake right, just reason for it, and you
can move to a higher frequency understanding people. And it's
all about from the heart.
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, I think that the idea and sometimes with
even words like fault, which are heavy.
Speaker 1: Right that I picked up on that real quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I often think. But it also is that a
word that can be used to show you you have
the power to change this. So we can say it's
your fault that great things are happening, it's your fault that.
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's your blessing.
Speaker 3: Your bless I mean, the word needs to be changed.
I understand the negativity, but sometimes I feel like when
you do the kind words it, people just miss it
as human beings. But fault, we all who on that
one hits that hits right right at.
Speaker 1: Home, right, And that's where you take the folk, that's
them taking the focus of them putting the blame on you.
You know, it's not them. And those are the people
that you know, they're very a lot of times, very
unhappy people. And that's when I talked about doing hospice work. Yes,
one of the best best blessings that I have is
when a person is getting ready to transition and the
family members are there, and sometimes or most of the time,
it is the time where people can come and make
amends and realize how important their lives are, you know,
and what that person that is transitioning actually contributed to
your life. And you can you know, I don't see
the son of a gun or whatever again, but it's like, no,
I loved you and I'm sorry. I can make amends
at that time, you know. And just like the businessman
that worked so many hours, but the last thing he
said is he wished to spend more time with his family,
exactly realizing what is important. What is important here, right,
It's about being happy inside.
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, I really truly believe that happiness is
the almost the key to everything. And I think that
I think sometimes we don't know how to be happy
with that, and and.
Speaker 1: That's why things are changing now that people are starting
to come to people like me and say, oh, and
a lot of times I say, I don't know where
I'm stuck. I'm just unhappy. Well let's talk about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting because when you start to realize
what does make you happy and what is there and
you know, better music everything, you get into a flow.
That's the other thing. You get a you know. And
I used to always say, I love and ease and flow.
Ease and flow such a wonderful thing, and it was
such great words.
Speaker 1: One of the one of the the entities angelic entities
that I work with is Angel Sarah, and she deals
with stress and powerlessness. She takes the stress and powerlessness
away a layer and she in prints beck in ease
and flow.
Speaker 3: Oh how funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all how appropriate?
Speaker 3: How appropriate? Yes, I'm just thinking ironic and the But
that's why the.
Speaker 1: Thing is, it's like, think of it differently. Wait a minute,
Wait a minute.
Speaker 3: I always think I appreciate ease and flow, and when
I think that way, I usually have them exactly.
Speaker 1: It's just perfect. Yes, And then the where energy work
when you look at it, how does affect the body?
The physical body? First? And stress? All right, and it
causes so many physical things going on in the body
in the area where she works, you know, from alcoholism
to to diabetes, to pancreatitis to intestinal problems, you know.
And it's like and stress takes a long time sometimes
to build up before you explode, and then it affects
other areas, whether it's a physical area in your body
or whether it's a relationship in your body. You know,
you explode the emotions or whatever, and the other person
can't take that or triggers of fear in them, so
they got to run.
Speaker 3: I'm just no, no, but but.
Speaker 1: So that kind of understands it is like stress is
a big one, but all the other ones are big
ones too. But it is a multi dimensional area. It's
between the physical molecules in your body and then also
what you're made of of atoms, and where does that
come from? It comes from the universe, right, and sacred
geometry and the molecules and positive energy, protons, electrons, that
type of stuff. So you got to break it down.
But then when you go back to stuff that you've
learned about chemistry and stuff in high school in school,
then you realize, oh, oh I see now, I see
now where energy is about everything about your body from
the inside out, and it reflects and the energy is
what you bring with you into other lifetimes. That's your soul.
And that is how a lot of times people will
do past live progression because I know something, reason why,
and they find that they drown another lifetime, but it's
affecting this lifetime. And that's the same with programming. Now,
think about that, the programming that your parents had came
from their parents. What time in humanity were they living?
What did they do to survive? All right? And so
you're part of that. You have that withinside yourself. But
also in this lifetime, you chose that you're going to
go into the pool and you're going to be a diver.
And before you were you know, so scared and you
drowned or whatever. But you went past that and that's
what comes back with you in your your electromagnetic field,
your spirit, your soul. You know, it is.
Speaker 3: Fascinating, It is very fascinating and I think very helpful enlightening.
And I think yes, and I think we need to
like have people realize that you've got the control and
you can do this.
Speaker 1: And it together.
Speaker 3: Yes, don't you have a teaching coming up. I thought
there was something in April.
Speaker 1: Well, in April I have a bunch of things. But
at the end of the month I have a Practitioner
Days where I'm bringing a lot of practitioners in the
area that do this type of work, any type of work,
you know, whether it's just massage, therapists or whatever, to
bring them so that the community can learn about them.
And it's not anything We're going to go have a
reading or have a healing or anything. It is to meet,
meet and greet different practitioners.
Speaker 3: And then where is that.
Speaker 1: That is actually at a center called Frequency Wellness Space
and it's on Elton Street in Rochester. It's between Atlantic
Avenue and University and it's from one to three on
April twenty six. It's Saturday afternoon and it's free. It's free,
just common meet and you can you know, enlighten yourself
right different things. And then the maay I have my
own classes that I do. The first weekend will be
my integrated Energy Therapy with the Angels. That's uh, you
can learn to heal yourself. And then in the middle
of May, I have a Master's class. So there's actually
four levels. Wow, So I mean I have something going
all the time, and you can always check my website
shielatillik dot com. Okay, get on my email list, subscribe,
you know, and take what you need. The rest. A
lot of people like this, I don't like that. That's fine, Yeah,
take what you and I have sessions individual personal sessions
all the time. Yeah, it's only one hundred and twenty
two dollars. A lot of people say I can't afford that. Okay, Well,
one hundred and twenty two dollars isn't bad for an
hour's worth of healing. No, it's not autation at all,
you know. And then you can do mentoring, which is
another price. And I have a community of people that
are like mine. They want to stay in this positive energy.
They don't want to be out there in the crazy world.
Speaker 3: No, right, And you can be among that and stay
on that higher and.
Speaker 1: Still be a part of yeah. Yeah, and you make
a difference and you that ripple of love.
Speaker 3: It's very interesting. I think it's great. Uh. But to
take a look at Shila Tillock dot com and you
can see all that it has been another Uh. I
think this is great today because there's practices that people
can do, and I would equate it to being a
little bit disciplined, but you feel so much better, just
like a good workout, you know, in a sense.
Speaker 1: And I also have an angel class that I'm gonna do,
a one day Angel class, and that's where you can
go inside and connect with whoever you want to. And
so one day, so contact me, do email, go to
my website, send me an email and we can set
up an actual date for that.
Speaker 3: Okay, one day. Thank you, Shila, lovely to see you again,
and thank you for another great episode of Build Lightenment.
Speaker 2: Your hands, break the chane and watch the fall.
Speaker 1: You've got the strength to stand home.