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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In
Speaker 2: with me today is Troy Hutchison.
Speaker 3: There we go, no end.
Speaker 2: Hutchison and our guy Ryan, who'll be working the board.
Speaker 2: So if anything screws up, you can go ahead and
Speaker 2: blame me. Hey, welcome to Thursday show. Detroy. Thank you
Speaker 2: for coming in. You should know enough about Arizona to
Speaker 2: give me to the today.
Speaker 3: Just a little bit, just a little bit, but appreciate
Speaker 3: being here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so listen, where do you want to go first?
Speaker 2: We have a lot of stuff going on Red Blue tomorrow, right,
Speaker 2: let's start. Let's start there, but well let's just kind
Speaker 2: of start there. We'll go to football. Obviously, big weekend.
Speaker 2: I think kind of the season really starts now, and
Speaker 2: this season started, but now comes the litmus test of
Speaker 2: how good are you going to be in the Big
Speaker 2: twelve and how successful are you going to be in
Speaker 2: the Big twelve. So let's start with basketball. Although I
Speaker 2: do want to bring in the people that we're going
Speaker 2: to have today. I know that we have Reggie Gary
Speaker 2: here at the other side, and we're going to talk
Speaker 2: a lot about basketball with Reggie at the four seventeen
Speaker 2: time slot and at the three seventeen time slot is
Speaker 2: a hoh to Rabino. We're going to go up north
Speaker 2: just because a lot of stuff is going on at
Speaker 2: an issue, whether they like it or not, and never
Speaker 2: boring time up there. And it happens to be within
Speaker 2: a former Arizona Wildcat and not just a former a
Speaker 2: pretty good player.
Speaker 3: And a current NFL head coach and a.
Speaker 4: Current NFL coach. You know what he's saying. How with that,
Speaker 4: I'm never going back to the college anyway. What's eight
Speaker 4: years when you're in the NFL. Well, you know this
Speaker 4: kind of struck. I think Kelvin Sampson Reberends he was
Speaker 4: in Oklahoma for a long time. He got in trouble
Speaker 4: there Indiana, Oklahoma, and he got in trouble and now
Speaker 4: it went to the NBA for a while to kind
Speaker 4: of and then now he's back at Houston. So this
Speaker 4: is kind of like, you know, Okay, put me in
Speaker 4: prison for eight years, I'll I don't need you anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the total totality of it, but Road
Speaker 2: will talk to us about it and see what the ramification.
Speaker 2: I did see one thing, but from Paula Boyven, did
Speaker 2: you no, no, no, no, just the attitude of I
Speaker 2: make a lot of money, I don't care about it.
Speaker 2: And then he's going through a lot of issues too,
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's kind of an attitude of well,
Speaker 4: I'm in the NFL. Yeah, you can't really do anything
Speaker 4: to me, so have a nice day. Isn't that with
Speaker 4: the Michigan coach as well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, you know, take a page out of Herball's book.
Speaker 2: How about his book? And also I think he was
Speaker 2: somebody else and we'll ask code. I don't want to
Speaker 2: break you or say anything right now, So let's go
Speaker 2: basketball first. Basketball first, Big Red Blue. Are you ready
Speaker 2: for that? Yeah, you know, I'm ready for that. I
Speaker 2: think you're ready for that.
Speaker 4: The fan base is definitely ready for that, especially after
Speaker 4: I was in a season ended last season against Clemson.
Speaker 4: There a lot of returners and some newcomers to the team.
Speaker 4: They lost the colaps in last year. Didn't don't remember? Yeah?
Speaker 4: More than twenty four hours. Well, I remember coming back
Speaker 4: right away from La you know, but it was it was,
Speaker 4: it was what it was back then another season of hope.
Speaker 3: Uh hold are you twenty nine? Twenty nine?
Speaker 5: They have?
Speaker 2: You were like two? How old are twenty seven? You
Speaker 2: were like five to two years old? Two years old?
Speaker 2: Okay when they won the title.
Speaker 4: Yep, two years old. I didn't even have to say
Speaker 4: what I was talking about. You knew where I was going.
Speaker 2: And two years old and six years old the last
Speaker 2: time they went to a Final four?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 2: How's that? Because I know you're a fan, I know
Speaker 2: deep down in there just the year. I don't know
Speaker 2: what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: I'm a non biased reporters save, but you know, deep
Speaker 4: deep down, it's interesting because there was someone's been on
Speaker 4: the cusp of Final four several times. You think of
Speaker 4: that Illinois game in two thousand and five, you think
Speaker 4: of the Yukon game where they had two shots to
Speaker 4: win it Wisconsin twice. They've been right there, and honestly,
Speaker 4: you could throw Xavier into that. They hit that game
Speaker 4: winning shot against Xavier. Who knows what they do after
Speaker 4: that game? Gonzaga, Yeah, Gonzaika. So it's just been. It's
Speaker 4: been one heartbreak after another for Arizona fans. And now
Speaker 4: you have a team that has high expectations again and
Speaker 4: now the questions are can you get back past the
Speaker 4: Sweet sixteen?
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the whole thing. And at Arizona, don't
Speaker 2: you expect that all the time? Getting past the Sweet sixteen?
Speaker 2: That should be the bare minimum. Sure for Arizona, Sure,
Speaker 2: because they did it for a long time.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: I think, though, how many Sweet sixteens have been there
Speaker 2: for the last fifteen years?
Speaker 3: Five?
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm just talking off the top of my head.
Speaker 2: There's been a few. Five, But that's not good enough, right,
Speaker 2: And that's not disparaging on Tommy Lloyd or or Sean
Speaker 2: because they've tried. They've tried either bad luck, no play something.
Speaker 4: Well, it's similar to Arizona. Stop look at the two
Speaker 4: sports similarly, you have a golden standard. You set that standard,
Speaker 4: and now you need to meet that standard year in
Speaker 4: and year out.
Speaker 2: Have people in that world because you cover the team
Speaker 2: kind of the somewhat are the people delusioned or are
Speaker 2: they patient? Are they with regard to that to getting
Speaker 2: back to the World Series and getting into the finals
Speaker 2: and the deep, deep runs.
Speaker 4: I think it's a fan base that is kind of
Speaker 4: just tired of waiting around. You know, yes, there was
Speaker 4: a world serious appearance for Kitlyn Low early on, but
Speaker 4: you kind of snuck your way in and got very
Speaker 4: lucky in terms of the setup and the elite pitching
Speaker 4: hasn't been there, and that's been the biggest issue of
Speaker 4: all is the pitching just hasn't been what it's been
Speaker 4: in years past, really dating backs to ken Zy Valor
Speaker 4: when she was a freshman and led the team to
Speaker 4: the National Championship Series. So it's a fan base that's
Speaker 4: ready for to cheer again for something.
Speaker 2: Okay, winning isn't enough that they have to go deep.
Speaker 2: Kendread created a monster and now it's the other people's
Speaker 2: job defeated. Yes, kind of like Luke created a monster
Speaker 2: even for himself. Illinois is one of the reasons, big
Speaker 2: reasons they try to feed it, try to feed it,
Speaker 2: and that it fell and it couldn't recover.
Speaker 4: Similarly to coach k at Duke, you know you've preid
Speaker 4: a monster and Shire has done a great job there.
Speaker 4: But I'm sure that fan base is wondering whins the final.
Speaker 2: Four coming right and he is he the guy? Yeah,
Speaker 2: both of us were there Duke last year about this
Speaker 2: time next month, and I'm not sure he's the guy.
Speaker 2: But that's not my issue. That's somebody else's issue. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: pro I would assume probably not. But you can't argue
Speaker 2: with top ten teams and being a number one in
Speaker 2: Truside in the tournament every year.
Speaker 4: But again, that's not what their standard is. You know
Speaker 4: their standards are standing.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Friday tomorrow, there's a Red Blue game at
Speaker 2: seven o'clock, right, what are we going to see? I'm
Speaker 2: not a Red Blue fan because it kind of drags on,
Speaker 2: you know me, I'm a grumpy old guy.
Speaker 4: So taking an app halfway through it, I wish I could. No,
Speaker 4: I think you know you're gonna have the slam dunk contest.
Speaker 4: kJ Lewis is going to be involved in that. Dog
Speaker 4: Jayden Back might be involved in that. We don't know
Speaker 4: the exact uh participants in that, and what about okay? Okay,
Speaker 4: And then they're going to break up the teams tomorrow
Speaker 4: morning before the game, so they don't have a team
Speaker 4: finalized in terms of he's going to play with what
Speaker 4: I thought? I thought they did a little video yesterday
Speaker 4: with white men and another kid talking about red Blue
Speaker 4: who's going to be their stars and.
Speaker 3: There according to Arizona, they're doing that tomorrow morning.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, well there's no truth and advertising then, because
Speaker 4: I saw that last night unless I drum kid, but
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have dreampt these two guys picking the teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, we'll see what happens. And it's always
Speaker 2: just a fun time for the fans who typically don't
Speaker 2: get to go to the games. Right, it's a different crowd,
Speaker 2: and it's a cheaper ticket.
Speaker 4: You know, you're not able to go to a game
Speaker 4: during the season when Duke Arizona plays at sixty seventy
Speaker 4: eighty dollars a pop. Ten dollars, come on in and
Speaker 4: watch Arizona play.
Speaker 2: Sixty seventy eighty dollars a pop. What cheap date are
Speaker 2: you because it's in a thousand.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, nose plead, yeah, nothing but please yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: that makes total sense.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we'll see.
Speaker 2: It'll be part of a nice little cozy affair Tommy,
Speaker 2: you know, WX poetic with the fans and say welcome
Speaker 2: to the next season.
Speaker 3: Who are you looking forward to? See. I'm looking forward
Speaker 3: to seeing Carter Bryant. You know, a talented freshman.
Speaker 4: McDonald's All American really should have been a five star
Speaker 4: recruit in many services, but it was a four star recruit.
Speaker 4: The kid can jump out of the gym, has athleticism
Speaker 4: beyond belief, and really good ball skills. He kind of
Speaker 4: reminds me similarly to Tracy McGrady. But you don't want
Speaker 4: to put that much pressure on a kid. But the
Speaker 4: killer instinct needs to be developed a little bit. But
Speaker 4: that's a future first round draft pick, probably lottery pick
Speaker 4: in the next couple of years, if not the end
Speaker 4: of the season.
Speaker 3: Why do you say the killer instinct?
Speaker 4: You know, there's moments when I saw him in high
Speaker 4: school in terms of Section seven and travel ball and
Speaker 4: all that, where he let the game come to him,
Speaker 4: which is what you want with a player. But there
Speaker 4: are moments where you need to say, give me the
Speaker 4: damn ball and get out of the way. So it's
Speaker 4: not a DeAndre eighton type of aggressiveness that he needs,
Speaker 4: because DeAndre just played.
Speaker 2: He was good. He was good, He's obviously very good.
Speaker 2: Million dollars was good, but his knock was he plaid
Speaker 2: when he wanted to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's not that.
Speaker 4: It's just you let the game come to you a
Speaker 4: little bit too much and you just have to have
Speaker 4: that moment where you just say, give me the ball
Speaker 4: and get out of the way.
Speaker 2: So he may not need to be that guy this
Speaker 2: year though, No, with with Kitler Love taking that role,
Speaker 2: give me the ball, get the hell out of the way.
Speaker 2: Jaydeon Bradley, who does some of that as well.
Speaker 6: H J k J.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something if he didn't know already
Speaker 4: know this, mister Troy. They only had one ball.
Speaker 3: They only have to play with the one ball. That's true.
Speaker 3: How do you guys have that attitude? A lot? Good
Speaker 3: luck with that? Yeah, good luck with that one ball?
Speaker 3: Lot of that And dude, you how are you gonna
Speaker 3: work there?
Speaker 4: And you know what that's a beat about basketball every
Speaker 4: year in college athletics is you have all these guys
Speaker 4: that are highly ranked recruits and highly thought of players,
Speaker 4: and how do you make that cohesion happen?
Speaker 3: Well, you talked about Xavier a few years ago.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, there was a guy named Trier, There was
Speaker 2: a guy named Marketing. There was a guy named Hawkins
Speaker 2: maybe or do Solkins? How many balls you play with
Speaker 2: one and who had the book control of the ball
Speaker 2: and had that go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Market in the corner though the ball Market was
Speaker 4: in the quarter is get him the damn ball.
Speaker 3: Get him the damn ball.
Speaker 2: Like I always say, Troy, the best defender that Xavier
Speaker 2: had was lonso Tree.
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say Sean Miller. True,
Speaker 3: because he couldn't get marketed the ball. That's very fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So tomorrow we're all looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: You know, it is what it is, red blue. We'll
Speaker 2: see what happens there and then we'll talk more about football,
Speaker 2: probably on the other hour after we talked to Hoade
Speaker 2: on the other side of this hour, where you know,
Speaker 2: big game Texas tick comes in late night, hopefully a
Speaker 2: lot of people stay, go and stay. Uh another midnight
Speaker 2: get out of town deal.
Speaker 3: And there's a game before that, so it might start
Speaker 3: at age twenty five.
Speaker 4: Oh oh because televice delay, Yeah, my delay. Do you
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Speaker 2: I got to make sure you have the because I've
Speaker 2: already hyped up because of my other job. I was
Speaker 2: doing some stories and I'm thinking, God, the guys riot
Speaker 2: heard me.
Speaker 3: It was not fun. Get your cup of coffee, get
Speaker 3: your energy drinks, get it ready. Yeah. Oh for Saturday.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that's not good. That's not good. But it
Speaker 3: should be fun. Like I said, it's going to be
Speaker 3: the gauge of what's to come.
Speaker 4: I'll ask for your prediction, but I'm assuming part of
Speaker 4: that prediction it's going to be high scoring. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: I think the over under the sixty eight, somewhere around
Speaker 4: there in the mid sixties.
Speaker 3: They'll go over. They'll go over.
Speaker 4: In this matchup, Texas tack a team that loves to
Speaker 4: throw the football and not run the ball in Arizona
Speaker 4: that has kind of figured out its offense along the way. Well,
Speaker 4: one game in one game, one game, so I don't
Speaker 4: know if you've heard the show all week. So three
Speaker 4: games they do what they're doing. Three games, you're thinking,
Speaker 4: what the hell is going on with the team, and
Speaker 4: they're one game they played well, so that one game
Speaker 4: wiped out the three games. I think that one game
Speaker 4: wipes not doesn't wipe them out, but it gives you
Speaker 4: an idea in terms of the balance that they're able
Speaker 4: to call the game of what Matt Akins as the
Speaker 4: play caller, he saw a little bit more balanced, a
Speaker 4: little bit more tinied end usage and let's face the
Speaker 4: Texas tachis and the defense that Utah is. I assume
Speaker 4: you were there for the press coverage involving Baber, Yes
Speaker 4: he was. How did he sound? How did he look
Speaker 4: when talking about this? You know, he sounded like it
Speaker 4: was always the plan. I don't know if that's true
Speaker 4: to me at they said that. That's what they say,
Speaker 4: and that's what he was told in terms of when
Speaker 4: he was hired, that that was going to be the
Speaker 4: plan to groom a future offense coordinator. And they like
Speaker 4: Matt Akins a lot, and Babers loved what he saw
Speaker 4: in terms of practice, and he has that coaching background
Speaker 4: through his father with Matt Akins, and so they love
Speaker 4: what they saw and it's a little bit of a
Speaker 4: balanced play calling between him and Babers. And it looked
Speaker 4: to pay off because tight end usage went up, running
Speaker 4: game went up, So it looked on all accounts positive
Speaker 4: for Arizona. And he seemed in a very positive mindset.
Speaker 4: What a what a payout to do what you're doing
Speaker 4: and you're not really the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: You just you're grooming ahead, grooming an offensive coordinator and
Speaker 4: putting your flare and offense as well. And you get
Speaker 4: the paycheck and hopefully you succeed at Arizona and you're
Speaker 4: able to become a head coach again at another program,
Speaker 4: because I think that's ultimate goal for Babers is being
Speaker 4: a head coach on another program one day.
Speaker 3: Again. Really, he's about my age, he's like late fifties.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you love the game, right, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 4: a good if you're your honor mister attorney.
Speaker 3: Yes, I get what you're going with this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never did that dream of going back and
Speaker 2: doing what you're doing because you're used to being the
Speaker 2: head coach. Yeah, it'll be at a different level for sure,
Speaker 2: but yeah, you know you're right.
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Speaker 1: This is Eye on the Ball with Steve Rivera on
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Lying the Ball Here. I'm Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and with me today
Speaker 2: as Troit. Let's just send and now on the phone
Speaker 2: Cold rabinoum Devil's digestic in Tempe.
Speaker 3: Hold, how are you doing.
Speaker 5: I'm a good to say thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was thinking when I was trying to reach
Speaker 2: you this morning and you didn't respond, we got to
Speaker 2: talk about that, tod.
Speaker 3: No. No, you know what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: It says you got to be busy with all the
Speaker 2: stuff that's going on with the previous coaching regime.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that definitely kept us busy. Good thing
Speaker 5: there was no practice to cover today.
Speaker 6: On top of it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, I think that as on the
Speaker 5: one hand, as much as it evokes a lot of
Speaker 5: negative and unpleasant memories in TMB, I think people are
Speaker 5: so happy that this is just really the final chapter
Speaker 5: in this dark episode of the program History twenty four
Speaker 5: was gonna be the last season anyway that was going
Speaker 5: to be any sanctions levied. The recruiting sanctions that ASU
Speaker 5: had incurred did expire on August press of this year,
Speaker 5: and the reduction in scholarships. Twenty twenty four is the
Speaker 5: last year that that takes place. So the very last
Speaker 5: piece of this very messy puzzle was just just announcing
Speaker 5: how many how many years of show causes Antonio Pierce
Speaker 5: going to get as well Anthony Garnett, who was a
Speaker 5: member of the staff during those recruiting violations. So yeah,
Speaker 5: not not a pleasant memory, but also an indication that
Speaker 5: there's things behind ASU and they don't have to talk
Speaker 5: about or dimension and anytime soon.
Speaker 4: Oh, were you a little surprised by the number of
Speaker 4: years that Antonio Piers Scott for show cause of eight years?
Speaker 4: I know people here in Tucson were a little shocked
Speaker 4: by that number, especially given that he's in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Now, No, I mean, they really warn't good. Look, I mean,
Speaker 5: let's let's call it a spit over here. It's the
Speaker 5: most toothless sanction or punishment, and Antonio Piers or anybody
Speaker 5: in his position could have received. Antonio Pierce is the
Speaker 5: head coach in the NFL. He's not coming back to
Speaker 5: college football coaching anytime soon probably ever. So you know
Speaker 5: it's like, okay, so you gave him an eight year
Speaker 5: show cause, a show cause. I'm sorry you're saying that, Oh,
Speaker 5: if somebody hires you, you're automatically suspended for the first
Speaker 5: here with with with that program. So it's you know,
Speaker 5: it's really just kind of a joke. But look on Turner,
Speaker 5: Pierce really was.
Speaker 6: The mastermind behind all the all.
Speaker 5: These recruiting violations.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know, horm Edwards at the time was just a
Speaker 5: really classic figurehead that was all about delegating, delegating, delegating.
Speaker 5: Unfortunate for him and portune for the program he delegated
Speaker 5: to producer. Really, Uh was over aggressive with his with
Speaker 5: his recruiting tactics. Uh during the during the recruiting to
Speaker 5: dead period with the pandemic on top of that. So no,
Speaker 5: I really can't say that I'm surprised, but again, knock
Speaker 5: over state the obvious.
Speaker 6: It is the most toothless. Uh.
Speaker 5: Sanctions were punishment anybody could levy on appeers for anybody
Speaker 5: in this position.
Speaker 2: No, question, no question, Uh do you think And I
Speaker 2: guess in some of his responses there were kind of
Speaker 2: cavalier and he kind of knew it is okay, catch
Speaker 2: me if you can.
Speaker 3: I'm gone anyway.
Speaker 5: Well, you know I think, uh, I mean sure that
Speaker 5: that's not I'm trying to turn to pierce his personality
Speaker 5: and you.
Speaker 6: Know On know that better than I do.
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, even even though I did cover him
Speaker 5: during a few years that he.
Speaker 6: Was at a s U.
Speaker 5: But look, I think that you know, it really comes
Speaker 5: down to the NC double A enforcement. I mean, this
Speaker 5: is not you know, the the local police department in
Speaker 5: your in your city, let let alone.
Speaker 6: And the FBI or anything like that.
Speaker 5: So their enforcement mechanism is very.
Speaker 6: Very limited. And if you want to really uh.
Speaker 5: You know something, you know sometub you know that them
Speaker 5: and uh, basically it's on I'm not going to cooperate
Speaker 5: with them.
Speaker 6: That there's really.
Speaker 5: Nothing they can do other than, you know, give you
Speaker 5: a punishment that nine percent will never apply to you
Speaker 5: whatsoever in your profession. So yeah, I mean I'm not surprised.
Speaker 5: I turn you know, actually the way he did, you
Speaker 5: know part of it, you know that that that's that's
Speaker 5: an inter peers, and I don't think he would even
Speaker 5: you know, take that as an insult to be told
Speaker 5: in that. But I think also just a matter of
Speaker 5: the fancy double a.
Speaker 6: I don't mean to come back to that.
Speaker 5: Term again, but just being very very very toothless in
Speaker 5: the way it enforces its laws sometimes, let alone enforces
Speaker 5: somebody to really come comply with an investigation that they're running.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you kind of mentioned it earlier. Is
Speaker 4: sense of relief that it's kind of behind them and
Speaker 4: all this can go away and they can move forward
Speaker 4: and whatnot. Is there also a sense of, man, you know,
Speaker 4: not that we got lucky, but that's all that came
Speaker 4: from it. We're in a good spot in terms of
Speaker 4: recruiting in the future of the program.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: And it's interesting you mentioned that because I've had endless
Speaker 5: discussions with ac fans ever since this broke in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty one, which seems like a million years ago, saying
Speaker 5: that the fact that ASCU offered the quote unquote sarcrificial lambs,
Speaker 5: and you know, and even before Paul Camp started, they're
Speaker 5: ready suspended one assistant coach two three days into fall camp.
Speaker 6: Already underway.
Speaker 5: They suspended another to some assistant coaches. You know, the
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator was basically resigning from his job because there
Speaker 5: was amount of evidence against them, and that happened if
Speaker 5: they got two months after the twenty twenty one season concluded.
Speaker 5: So you know, basically the NCAA was selling as all
Speaker 5: throughout the process, Hey, look we have this amount of
Speaker 5: evidence on coach A, this amount of evidence on coach B.
Speaker 5: You know, you do you do what you see? Would
Speaker 5: you see best fits? And obviously the strong su with
Speaker 5: a pretty thick hint say, look, if you're going to
Speaker 5: cooperate from day one, then the ultimate punishments are really
Speaker 5: going to be less less severe nature. So you know,
Speaker 5: just because the process really unfolded from day one, from
Speaker 5: the time the investigation launched and they have twenty twenty one,
Speaker 5: and I really can't say that I'm that I'm surprised
Speaker 5: how everything unfolded and how really the punishments ultimately, I mean,
Speaker 5: sure they did hurt the program, but but to your point, yes,
Speaker 5: they could have been much much worse when.
Speaker 6: You look at the the.
Speaker 5: Absolute scope of other recruiting violations that that that did
Speaker 5: take place. I think that that ASCU Uh, definitely, you know,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 6: Got off easy if you want to look.
Speaker 3: At it that way.
Speaker 5: But they really cooperated, and they really were suspending and
Speaker 5: ultimately firing people from the football staff, you know, left
Speaker 5: and left and right. So it's not as if you
Speaker 5: know that that cooperation didn't mean come with with with
Speaker 5: with some price tag attached to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so did you read the whole thing?
Speaker 2: And I asked that because I know I did not,
Speaker 2: but I saw somebody's tweet about some of the things
Speaker 2: they did with women driving, women driving the bus or
Speaker 2: the van or whatever, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean they did, you know, uh, and
Speaker 5: then entertain those recruits you know quite well, whether it's
Speaker 5: whether it was that gentlemen clubs or or escorts. It
Speaker 5: really was absolutely nefarious stuff. But you know it's just
Speaker 5: a mat And then look, this is not me justifying
Speaker 5: what issues, but if I'm providing an explanation, they knew
Speaker 5: that they just had to be very extavagant and do
Speaker 5: things that maybe the quote unquote normal recruiting trip did
Speaker 5: not include, and they just really tried to be as lavish.
Speaker 6: As they could be during the pandemic.
Speaker 5: Which I guess somehow they were able to swing that's
Speaker 5: that was definitely a toll task back back then. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I did not read the report from cover to cover.
Speaker 5: I did read quite a few expert excerpts of it
Speaker 5: that you know, really speak to the crux of the
Speaker 5: of the relations that took place. And look, I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't think anything really for me or really really
Speaker 5: shocked me, because I think that a su uh to
Speaker 5: the detriment with just uber aggressive uh in the matter,
Speaker 5: in the manner that that the recruiting players. I think
Speaker 5: the thing that kind of you know, maybe not blew
Speaker 5: me away, but it was like an eye opener that
Speaker 5: they actually just had uh some of the prospects uh
Speaker 5: do a off campus workout in the park in in
Speaker 5: TMP or near campus, and there were coaches and attendance.
Speaker 5: Uh just like you know, strolling around the park.
Speaker 6: We would just happen to stumble on on some.
Speaker 5: Kind of football workout.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: You know that's something that.
Speaker 5: You definitely don't see, uh even with with with with
Speaker 5: other programs with their own recruiting violations. But I really
Speaker 5: can't say I was I was shocked with anything, because
Speaker 5: I just knew when the whole story broke that this
Speaker 5: is indication how buber aggressive ASU was with with the
Speaker 5: with the recruiting violations. So it's almost almost to the
Speaker 5: point where, you know, whatever you tell me, as long
Speaker 5: as it's documented and cooperated by a witnesses, doesn't really
Speaker 5: flow me at all.
Speaker 2: And not that I want to get into the affixiated
Speaker 2: with the strip club stuff, but this is during COVID, right, Yes,
Speaker 2: exactly those things were open at the time.
Speaker 6: I thought, I you're talking about you're talking about the
Speaker 6: parks themselves.
Speaker 3: Not the parks. I'm talking about the strip clubs. I
Speaker 3: thought we were. I thought we were shut down.
Speaker 5: I guess, I guess you know that they you know,
Speaker 5: maybe you know, shut down for the first three months
Speaker 5: of COVID, but you know, don't forget that that some
Speaker 5: of these violations that take place also in.
Speaker 6: Twenty twenty one, when things were just we're.
Speaker 5: Just more you know, open for like a black a
Speaker 5: bit of term. And I mean, sure, maybe.
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe maybe i'd answered the General's.
Speaker 5: Club with the mask or something, but yeah, nonetheless, I
Speaker 5: mean whatever the six is worth, Steve, that they found
Speaker 5: more of the one aware one way around it.
Speaker 4: Let's say, sure, yeah, no question, uh, you know, kind
Speaker 4: of transitioning to on field stuff and whatnot. As you
Speaker 4: already played Texas Tech, Arizona's next opponent here this weekend.
Speaker 4: What did you see from the Red Raiders with that
Speaker 4: matchup in terms of what Arizona fans should be looking
Speaker 4: out for when it comes to the Red Raiders offense
Speaker 4: and defense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think, I mean, we look at
Speaker 5: that Texas Tech. I think the staple of that program
Speaker 5: is really no different than a lot of other programs
Speaker 5: in the Big Twelve, and that is that their offense
Speaker 5: is absolutely fueled by a very good running game. You know,
Speaker 5: not to say that their quarterback just you know, lacks
Speaker 5: you know, basic skills to come at an offense in
Speaker 5: a power conference, but I think that it's definitely a
Speaker 5: scenario where if you can really really limit their running
Speaker 5: game and then put the onus on the quarterback, I
Speaker 5: think I think you will, I think you will find success.
Speaker 5: And look, I I'll admitted I was very impressed with
Speaker 5: what Arizona did to Utah in an insult lake city
Speaker 5: because you know, I'm old enough to see a lot
Speaker 5: of Utah fans. I'm sorry, a lot of Utah programs
Speaker 5: before they had a very good quarterback like Cam Rising,
Speaker 5: uh you know, quote unquote survived with just a very
Speaker 5: good defense and in a very in a very good
Speaker 5: running game. And I think that what we saw with
Speaker 5: Arizona is that they were able to just really put
Speaker 5: the onus on on a young quarterback by shutting down
Speaker 5: the running game, and that's why they found a lot
Speaker 5: of success. So I think that I think that Arizona,
Speaker 5: you know, if they can take that blueprint and apply
Speaker 5: it against Texas Tech, I don't.
Speaker 6: Know why they would not win, you know, win that game.
Speaker 5: And Texas Tech to me and I'm not here, you know,
Speaker 5: uh like mentioning solid grapes or anything like that just
Speaker 5: because of Badasu, but they didn't really you know blow
Speaker 5: me away with their with their ability or.
Speaker 6: Anything like that.
Speaker 5: I think that is really classic on the the middle
Speaker 5: of the road team, even in the Big twelve, you know,
Speaker 5: on defense, I didn't see you know, really anything eye
Speaker 5: popping or really super impressive, you know, from them. I
Speaker 5: don't think their defense comes even close to them to
Speaker 5: that of Utah because either of a, even though they
Speaker 5: did big Utah thought they were just running up, you know,
Speaker 5: up and down the field on them. So I think
Speaker 5: if if U of A was able to really handle
Speaker 5: a very good Utah defense in Cult Lake City the
Speaker 5: way they did, I don't think there's going to be
Speaker 5: a problem uh doing that against Texas Tech. I think
Speaker 5: that a lot of issues that a SU had in
Speaker 5: that game from an offensive standpoint is that Camps Kataboo,
Speaker 5: they're starting running back, they just really random way too
Speaker 5: hard just because there's some injuries that are affecting that position.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: Kenny doing m a SU's head coach, said that when
Speaker 5: you run run, when you do run one running back
Speaker 5: time and time again, you're just not really presenting any
Speaker 5: complexity in creativity, uh, with with your running game, and
Speaker 5: that makes the opposing run defense be that much more effective.
Speaker 5: I don't know what the situation is in terms of
Speaker 5: the running back depth and Tucson, but I think if
Speaker 5: you can throw U you know, different running backs and
Speaker 5: different running styles at them, uh, you know that that's
Speaker 5: definitely something that that can.
Speaker 6: Help you of A.
Speaker 5: And I don't think their second day of past rush
Speaker 5: is anything that the U A really really should be
Speaker 5: apprehensive about. And with their passing game.
Speaker 6: Capabilities, I do expect you a to win, you.
Speaker 5: Know, and maybe something that you you guys been talking
Speaker 5: on the show the whole week. It's not so much
Speaker 5: maybe the physical aspect, but I was on this week.
Speaker 5: I think it's a mental aspect. How how do you
Speaker 5: actually handle success with a mass After a massive MASSI
Speaker 5: win in Salt Lake City, can you really regroup and
Speaker 5: refocus and just put that impressive win way back in
Speaker 5: the rearview mirror? Or is that we'ren't going to have
Speaker 5: some kind of a hangover, Because if it's the latter,
Speaker 5: I think Texas Tech.
Speaker 6: You know, is good enough to beat Arizona, I and Tucson.
Speaker 5: But again, if I was on a place at the
Speaker 5: same level they played at Salt Lake City, I don't
Speaker 5: see why the wild Cats don't win that game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I totally agree with you.
Speaker 2: It's the he has the hangover that Arizona usually has
Speaker 2: trouble with. So we'll see what happens. Hold IM always
Speaker 2: good to talk to you, man. I will talk to
Speaker 2: you soon with updates and things like that as we
Speaker 2: move forward. Thike Tobb, thank you, Hoderbino from the Devils
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Speaker 3: It's funny because he's.
Speaker 4: Not a and he said, I'm not here to Sara Grimson.
Speaker 3: He's not a homer. He's not a homer. He just
Speaker 3: kind of tells how it is.
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Speaker 1: Bass I on the Ball Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Want
Speaker 1: to take part in the show called up Steve now
Speaker 1: went five to two oh four seventy.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Why to Ball, Drew Pockfort, Hians Kubavera,
Speaker 2: your Troy. I just send yaya to plural. Now we
Speaker 2: got our guy Ryan here with us in control of
Speaker 2: the show. Uh, I was gonna ask you, what was
Speaker 2: I gonna ask you? Already forgot seven years? So yeah, hey,
Speaker 2: this week is the seven year anniversary of the It's
Speaker 2: not like Arizona didn't have their issues.
Speaker 3: You know, issue has their issues.
Speaker 2: Seven year anniversary of of UA and Sean and book
Speaker 2: getting in trouble. It happened last week, seven year anniversary,
Speaker 2: but today was the first day that Sean spoke about
Speaker 2: it seven years ago. Does it feel seven years ago?
Speaker 4: No? And you know, it's funny, it felt like it
Speaker 4: was a seven year process during the time, just you know,
Speaker 4: dragged out and non stop wait and see. But now
Speaker 4: that it's been seven years, looking back, it doesn't feel
Speaker 4: that it was that long ago that DeAndre Aiden was
Speaker 4: on campus and he had all the craziness with Booker
Speaker 4: and Sean and what went down there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no question, seven years I felt, you know,
Speaker 2: like a I don't want the seven year itch kind
Speaker 2: of thing now. But it took forever. It finally got resolved.
Speaker 2: All the parties are gone and some did okay, some
Speaker 2: did not.
Speaker 3: Some are still in the show.
Speaker 2: Cause yeah, yeah, right, yeah. So the good thing is
Speaker 2: it's over with and Arizona has done well moving on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, I think it kind of dragged
Speaker 4: out there when Sean left it. It felt like the
Speaker 4: cloud had been lifted from the program that seemed to
Speaker 4: be a black cloud just sitting there, not only FBI
Speaker 4: but other stuff that went on during that time. And
Speaker 4: now you look seven years later, I think the program
Speaker 4: is in the better place than it was seven years ago.
Speaker 2: Without question, Thommy's has done a pretty good job with
Speaker 2: the excitements. Back at the end of Sean, it was
Speaker 2: not It's not there. The crowds were in the twelve thousands.
Speaker 2: People will deny that they were. They were losing a
Speaker 2: lot of games, and people will deny that it was true.
Speaker 2: No chance that really deep runs in the NCAA tournament. Honestly,
Speaker 2: in my twenty nine years and going to the U
Speaker 2: of a game.
Speaker 4: Is as little as a little kid, those were some
Speaker 4: of the worst crowds I've ever seen that McHale, And
Speaker 4: I don't know if you'll ever have that.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I've been doing it thirty some years
Speaker 2: and covering it for a team for almost that long.
Speaker 2: No question, very complacent, very apathetic. They too wanted a change,
Speaker 2: you know, coach, coach, president Robbins and over my dead
Speaker 2: body for some of that time, and then eventually they
Speaker 2: had to say, you know, goodbye, which was the smart
Speaker 2: thing to do. Yeah, moving on, and everybody had said,
Speaker 2: who's Tommy Lloyd? Well, here we are with a pretty
Speaker 2: good program, or watching a pretty good program covering a team. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so we'll talk more about football. I know we're getting
Speaker 2: some calls, so we'll see what happens. I can't so
Speaker 2: Texas Tech pretty looked pretty good against the.
Speaker 4: Issue solid you know, they struggled a little bit but
Speaker 4: came away with a close victory over a s U Yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 4: we got a call.
Speaker 3: Oh you're on the air and I on the ball.
Speaker 4: I don't know why he sounded so like not content
Speaker 4: with Antonio Pearce.
Speaker 3: Is you know, getting in trouble. He's the coach of
Speaker 3: the Raiders. Isn't he going throing?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: Only he'd only suffered more if he was the coach
Speaker 2: of the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: You know, as a.
Speaker 4: Yourself, guess where I'm going this weekend, Steve, You're going
Speaker 4: to You're going to hold on?
Speaker 3: Is it a little legitimate ask? Where are you going?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: No, I legitimate asked.
Speaker 17: I'm going to somewhere you're very familiar.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're going to New Mexico. I'm going to the
Speaker 3: Hot Air Balloon. Fish's propriate. That's now, well, you have
Speaker 3: a chance to go pick some pinon.
Speaker 4: That's what the season is right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 17: They're good, They're all different, They're buttery and everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, so I'm going.
Speaker 18: I'm going to see if I'm gonna get red chili
Speaker 18: on my White Cowboys jersey.
Speaker 17: It's hard to get red chili as the White Cowboys jersey.
Speaker 17: But I was calling to make fun of a certain
Speaker 17: guy that was on this show about the certain mediocrity
Speaker 17: sort of like mine, with.
Speaker 9: The sort of the same lore.
Speaker 6: But I don't hear that guy at all. Is it?
Speaker 3: Is there a change? Is my heart broken?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you didn't know Jay's no longer here?
Speaker 6: Yes, So you guys did it?
Speaker 3: Do you email me or give me the memo?
Speaker 2: Hey, all we have to do is tell the public
Speaker 2: that that's happening, and you should be listening to us
Speaker 2: every day. Wegel You know, I thought you were the
Speaker 2: most informed guy in Tucson, and now you disappointed me.
Speaker 18: Well, I've allays here doing see it's my podcast season
Speaker 18: as well, so it's crazy.
Speaker 3: But go to the football game.
Speaker 18: I know last week was our first big twelve wins,
Speaker 18: but it's not really our first big twelve win. Our
Speaker 18: first big twelve wins gonna be if we.
Speaker 3: Win on Saturday night. Would you agree?
Speaker 2: Well, well, we've talked about this. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's a I don't agree with you because it's last
Speaker 2: week is a big win, but I think the rest
Speaker 2: of the season will establish who you are.
Speaker 3: But but what I'm saying is Utah. You know Utah
Speaker 3: was already.
Speaker 18: They came with us, they tagged along winers, they followed it.
Speaker 3: I see what just read it fall You know what
Speaker 3: I mean. This is Texas Tech, you know, Kansas.
Speaker 18: State, you know, with that debacle, and we're not gonna
Speaker 18: talk about that to us because we don't.
Speaker 3: We don't talk about that anymore. This is gonna be
Speaker 3: the first.
Speaker 18: One because you know, I've been running my mouth and
Speaker 18: my mouth.
Speaker 17: Saying that we're gonna open up your refrigerator, put our
Speaker 17: feet on your coffee table.
Speaker 3: This is this is our chats and this is.
Speaker 18: One of the first real a real big twelve, big
Speaker 18: Big twelve teams.
Speaker 3: We're gonna see your.
Speaker 18: Big eight teams and this I look at this.
Speaker 3: Like, if they win, this is gonna be one of
Speaker 3: the first ones. So sorry, you have your CV your
Speaker 3: CD radio on. Okay, sir, you another thing. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of things.
Speaker 6: Going on in Tucson.
Speaker 4: Tucson, eat yourself the fist us.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that thing is grueling.
Speaker 17: If you want to watch baseball, don't go there. But
Speaker 17: if you want to give missed up, get miss stuff,
Speaker 17: go to the game.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, thanks to this show, you know, thank you man,
Speaker 4: Thank you, Miguel.
Speaker 3: This is Mike. Mike.
Speaker 2: Uh everything you said, if I can remember anything that
Speaker 2: he said, I kind of agree. In terms of being
Speaker 2: the Big twelve, a true Big twelve team, they just
Speaker 2: gotta win. You know, it's easy, but he just got
Speaker 2: to win well.
Speaker 4: And that's also I'm measuring, Sike of what Big twelve
Speaker 4: opponents are going to look like. You know, Utah being
Speaker 4: a pack tall opponent in Mountain West history. There, you
Speaker 4: know what they've done Texas Tech that they've been in
Speaker 4: the Big twelve for a number of years, so this
Speaker 4: is kind of the norm and the Big twelve, you know,
Speaker 4: the high powered offense, not a lot of defense, and
Speaker 4: how do you match up against that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, back in the day, I'm gonna be like Jay
Speaker 2: back in the day in nineteen eighty ninety nine, it
Speaker 2: was eighty nine, I think it was.
Speaker 3: I was covering football.
Speaker 2: I was, you know, twenty two years old, twenty four
Speaker 2: years old, whatever, and Jay was covering football too, So
Speaker 2: we were competing against each other.
Speaker 3: And we went to Texas Tech. I was covering from
Speaker 3: one paper, he was for the other.
Speaker 2: And Arizona thought, Okay, they're going to Texas Tech. It'll
Speaker 2: be a breeze, no problem. And Arizona came out and
Speaker 2: getting their ass kicked. James Gray ran all over them,
Speaker 2: and you're thinking, well, maybe we're not the hutshot team
Speaker 2: that we thought we were. This is kind of that
Speaker 2: moment where you have to prove who you are. Last
Speaker 2: week Arizona proved kind of who they are, but to me,
Speaker 2: there's some residual from the three weeks before, but from
Speaker 2: moving on forward, they have to proof who they are.
Speaker 2: They have talent? Am I wrong?
Speaker 3: The talent? Talent? Do they have enough talent. So there's
Speaker 3: two things.
Speaker 2: They have talent. They have enough talent. Talent, had great spots,
Speaker 2: right kicker, quarterback, receiver, CBS, their defense, right running back,
Speaker 2: where would you put down?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 4: Solid, solid in the backfield. Okay, So they have a
Speaker 4: pretty good team. Now they just can't drink the kool
Speaker 4: aid themselves. Well, I think part of that is consistency.
Speaker 4: How do you consistently perform? You had a great game
Speaker 4: against Utah. Again, Cam Rising wasn't there, but what they
Speaker 4: did offensively against Utah is nothing to you know, shrug
Speaker 4: your shoulders about. That's a great defense. Can you be consistent,
Speaker 4: especially on the offensive side of the football after the
Speaker 4: last two weeks where Arizona struggled on the offensive end,
Speaker 4: can you have that consistency against the Texas Tech defense that,
Speaker 4: let's face it, outside of the turnovers, really is a
Speaker 4: revolving door out there on the field.
Speaker 2: M Yeah, I know you're right. So so we'll see
Speaker 2: what happens. We talked about this before the show started.
Speaker 2: I think Troy, I think we've heard I heard seeing
Speaker 2: the last of the ringback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ray, Shawn Luke, no, no no, no, no.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 3: Corey Krossky merrit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well not officially, so we don't want to say anything.
Speaker 2: But I think this is just me saying this. He
Speaker 2: hasn't he hasn't played.
Speaker 4: Since he hasn't played, the comments have been will wait
Speaker 4: and see, And you know, we're sitting here fifty five games,
Speaker 4: almost six weeks and almost you know, if it's if
Speaker 4: it hasn't happened at this point, That's how I feel
Speaker 4: history tells you at this point it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, and whether they want to be koy with
Speaker 2: it or whatever, at the very least, at some point soon,
Speaker 2: if it's not gonna happen, it's not gonna happen, they
Speaker 2: need to say. And if they if they say, uh,
Speaker 2: we're still waiting, that's information too.
Speaker 3: I mean, at some point there's news there. I think.
Speaker 4: Well, it's similar to again a different situation, but Cam
Speaker 4: Rising last year with the season ending injury for weeks
Speaker 4: and weeks and weeks, Kyle winningham Wash. We'll see, it's
Speaker 4: it's day to day, we'll see, We'll see how he
Speaker 4: does this week. We'll see how he does this week.
Speaker 4: By mid season, oh he's out for the year. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, so you knew he was going to be
Speaker 4: out for the year for that whole entire time. Is
Speaker 4: the situation still learning or do you kind of know
Speaker 4: the result?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: This kind of reminds me of when Seawn had Derek
Speaker 2: Williams and he had hand in a cast.
Speaker 3: Or the broken hand and.
Speaker 2: The broken non broken hand, because they didn't say it
Speaker 2: was broken. We kind of all knew it was broken,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't officially broken because they didn't say, because
Speaker 2: you know why, we don't want to give the opponents
Speaker 2: an advantage. What the hell they see it had in
Speaker 2: a cast, whether it's broken or not. He hasn't had
Speaker 2: in this cast. What's the big deal if you kind
Speaker 2: of walk with the limp? You walk with the limp. No,
Speaker 2: I don't you walk with a limp. You can see it.
Speaker 3: You need glasses, No, I don't you with my own
Speaker 3: eyes while you lying eyes?
Speaker 2: Right, of course, So at some point they're going to
Speaker 2: say he's coming back or he's not coming back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: my opinion that we've seen the lasted I could be wrong.
Speaker 3: I would agree.
Speaker 4: I would assume that we've seen the last Jacoria cross
Speaker 4: conmerit again, it's still up in the air. They haven't
Speaker 4: commented on it, and it could go either way, but
Speaker 4: I just think this is going to be a situation
Speaker 4: where this is what they got in the backfield. There's
Speaker 4: no there's no additions moving forward.
Speaker 2: And we may have seen the last we have for
Speaker 2: sure of a speedy loop.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, he's going to take a red shirt,
Speaker 4: and Brennan during his press conference today was very clear
Speaker 4: that that was a Rayshon Luke and his family decision
Speaker 4: to red shirt and set out the year and developed
Speaker 4: that way. And usually when that happens the next during
Speaker 4: the off season, the kid transfers. So I'm assuming that's
Speaker 4: probably what we're going to see here, but you never know.
Speaker 4: Maybe it is to get stronger, bigger, faster, and he'll
Speaker 4: be back next season. But you know, you just get
Speaker 4: the feeling that Rayshon Luke is going to be looking
Speaker 4: for a new home this offseason, but he is still
Speaker 4: on the team right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's fair for her to say, Uh,
Speaker 2: that's another wait and see right. Uh, he's obviously speedy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's not a misnomber. That's that's true. Whether he
Speaker 2: was able to you know, find or be comfortable because
Speaker 2: his one knock was what.
Speaker 4: Could fumbling the ball and the ability to catch the
Speaker 4: ball out of the backfield as well?
Speaker 3: What is he? Is he a FOOTBA player? Yeah? Shouldn't
Speaker 3: they do that? Not all asid dB I? They should
Speaker 3: catch the ball? Is it for last week?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 4: I'm just saying in general, how many DB's he said
Speaker 4: to Caio last season? Drop five interceptions? You know you're
Speaker 4: a football player, catch the ball? Right, Okay, I'm a
Speaker 4: radio Guys should know what I'm saying, which, of course
Speaker 4: doesn't mean much.
Speaker 3: Okay, So we've got about two minutes.
Speaker 2: We're gonna come back after this break here or after
Speaker 2: this a segment and then come back with Ryan with
Speaker 2: a lot of breaking news.
Speaker 3: Uh Diamondbacks. So, by the way, are you okay? Are
Speaker 3: you okay? I don't want to talk about it. Why
Speaker 3: you're fine? You're a young kid.
Speaker 4: There's more heartache in your future, only only positive from
Speaker 4: here on out.
Speaker 3: What world are you leaving? How much is gas in
Speaker 3: your area.
Speaker 4: A dollar or something? How much is bread in your area?
Speaker 4: How much your eggs in your Let me tell you something.
Speaker 4: This is called real world stuff.
Speaker 3: Troy. Yeah, yeah, you know, don't blow and ain't nothing lead.
Speaker 2: Good and that's there's probably two games you can find
Speaker 2: somewhere along the line, probably more, but that that was
Speaker 2: like last week.
Speaker 4: That was last week, and the whole entire demeanor of
Speaker 4: the organization and the team shifted. You're rolling against uh Milwaukee,
Speaker 4: and then you lose that ain't nothing game, and then
Speaker 4: you lose two out of three to the Rockies, two
Speaker 4: out of three to the Giants. That just seemed to
Speaker 4: be a black cloud hanging around the organization during that time.
Speaker 3: Well, well, and you can you can pinpoint that are
Speaker 3: we good? Are we good? Down right?
Speaker 2: How much we Yeah, let's let's get out of here.
Speaker 2: Come back with you. Ryan on the other side with
Speaker 2: breaking news