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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball

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<v Speaker 2>here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In

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<v Speaker 2>with me today is Troy Hutchison.

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<v Speaker 3>There we go, no end.

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<v Speaker 2>Hutchison and our guy Ryan, who'll be working the board.

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<v Speaker 2>So if anything screws up, you can go ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>blame me. Hey, welcome to Thursday show. Detroy. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for coming in. You should know enough about Arizona to

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<v Speaker 2>give me to the today.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a little bit, just a little bit, but appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>being here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so listen, where do you want to go first?

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<v Speaker 2>We have a lot of stuff going on Red Blue tomorrow, right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's start. Let's start there, but well let's just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of start there. We'll go to football. Obviously, big weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I think kind of the season really starts now, and

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<v Speaker 2>this season started, but now comes the litmus test of

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<v Speaker 2>how good are you going to be in the Big

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<v Speaker 2>twelve and how successful are you going to be in

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<v Speaker 2>the Big twelve. So let's start with basketball. Although I

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<v Speaker 2>do want to bring in the people that we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have today. I know that we have Reggie Gary

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<v Speaker 2>here at the other side, and we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about basketball with Reggie at the four seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>time slot and at the three seventeen time slot is

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<v Speaker 2>a hoh to Rabino. We're going to go up north

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<v Speaker 2>just because a lot of stuff is going on at

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<v Speaker 2>an issue, whether they like it or not, and never

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<v Speaker 2>boring time up there. And it happens to be within

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<v Speaker 2>a former Arizona Wildcat and not just a former a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good player.

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<v Speaker 3>And a current NFL head coach and a.

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<v Speaker 4>Current NFL coach. You know what he's saying. How with that,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm never going back to the college anyway. What's eight

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<v Speaker 4>years when you're in the NFL. Well, you know this

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<v Speaker 4>kind of struck. I think Kelvin Sampson Reberends he was

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<v Speaker 4>in Oklahoma for a long time. He got in trouble

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<v Speaker 4>there Indiana, Oklahoma, and he got in trouble and now

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<v Speaker 4>it went to the NBA for a while to kind

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<v Speaker 4>of and then now he's back at Houston. So this

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<v Speaker 4>is kind of like, you know, Okay, put me in

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<v Speaker 4>prison for eight years, I'll I don't need you anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen the total totality of it, but Road

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<v Speaker 2>will talk to us about it and see what the ramification.

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<v Speaker 2>I did see one thing, but from Paula Boyven, did

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<v Speaker 2>you no, no, no, no, just the attitude of I

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<v Speaker 2>make a lot of money, I don't care about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he's going through a lot of issues too,

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, it's kind of an attitude of well,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in the NFL. Yeah, you can't really do anything

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<v Speaker 4>to me, so have a nice day. Isn't that with

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<v Speaker 4>the Michigan coach as well?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, you know, take a page out of Herball's book.

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<v Speaker 2>How about his book? And also I think he was

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else and we'll ask code. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>break you or say anything right now, So let's go

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<v Speaker 2>basketball first. Basketball first, Big Red Blue. Are you ready

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<v Speaker 2>for that? Yeah, you know, I'm ready for that. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're ready for that.

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<v Speaker 4>The fan base is definitely ready for that, especially after

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<v Speaker 4>I was in a season ended last season against Clemson.

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<v Speaker 4>There a lot of returners and some newcomers to the team.

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<v Speaker 4>They lost the colaps in last year. Didn't don't remember? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>More than twenty four hours. Well, I remember coming back

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<v Speaker 4>right away from La you know, but it was it was,

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<v Speaker 4>it was what it was back then another season of hope.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh hold are you twenty nine? Twenty nine?

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<v Speaker 5>They have?

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<v Speaker 2>You were like two? How old are twenty seven? You

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<v Speaker 2>were like five to two years old? Two years old?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay when they won the title.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, two years old. I didn't even have to say

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<v Speaker 4>what I was talking about. You knew where I was going.

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<v Speaker 2>And two years old and six years old the last

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<v Speaker 2>time they went to a Final four?

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<v Speaker 3>Correct?

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<v Speaker 2>How's that? Because I know you're a fan, I know

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<v Speaker 2>deep down in there just the year. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a non biased reporters save, but you know, deep

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<v Speaker 4>deep down, it's interesting because there was someone's been on

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<v Speaker 4>the cusp of Final four several times. You think of

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<v Speaker 4>that Illinois game in two thousand and five, you think

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<v Speaker 4>of the Yukon game where they had two shots to

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<v Speaker 4>win it Wisconsin twice. They've been right there, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>you could throw Xavier into that. They hit that game

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<v Speaker 4>winning shot against Xavier. Who knows what they do after

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<v Speaker 4>that game? Gonzaga, Yeah, Gonzaika. So it's just been. It's

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<v Speaker 4>been one heartbreak after another for Arizona fans. And now

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<v Speaker 4>you have a team that has high expectations again and

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<v Speaker 4>now the questions are can you get back past the

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<v Speaker 4>Sweet sixteen?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's the whole thing. And at Arizona, don't

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<v Speaker 2>you expect that all the time? Getting past the Sweet sixteen?

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<v Speaker 2>That should be the bare minimum. Sure for Arizona, Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>because they did it for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, though, how many Sweet sixteens have been there

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<v Speaker 2>for the last fifteen years?

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<v Speaker 3>Five?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe I'm just talking off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been a few. Five, But that's not good enough, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not disparaging on Tommy Lloyd or or Sean

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<v Speaker 2>because they've tried. They've tried either bad luck, no play something.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's similar to Arizona. Stop look at the two

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<v Speaker 4>sports similarly, you have a golden standard. You set that standard,

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<v Speaker 4>and now you need to meet that standard year in

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<v Speaker 4>and year out.

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<v Speaker 2>Have people in that world because you cover the team

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the somewhat are the people delusioned or are

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<v Speaker 2>they patient? Are they with regard to that to getting

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<v Speaker 2>back to the World Series and getting into the finals

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<v Speaker 2>and the deep, deep runs.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a fan base that is kind of

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<v Speaker 4>just tired of waiting around. You know, yes, there was

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<v Speaker 4>a world serious appearance for Kitlyn Low early on, but

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<v Speaker 4>you kind of snuck your way in and got very

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<v Speaker 4>lucky in terms of the setup and the elite pitching

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<v Speaker 4>hasn't been there, and that's been the biggest issue of

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<v Speaker 4>all is the pitching just hasn't been what it's been

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<v Speaker 4>in years past, really dating backs to ken Zy Valor

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<v Speaker 4>the National Championship Series. So it's a fan base that's

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<v Speaker 4>ready for to cheer again for something.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, winning isn't enough that they have to go deep.

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<v Speaker 2>Kendread created a monster and now it's the other people's

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<v Speaker 2>job defeated. Yes, kind of like Luke created a monster

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<v Speaker 2>even for himself. Illinois is one of the reasons, big

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<v Speaker 2>reasons they try to feed it, try to feed it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that it fell and it couldn't recover.

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<v Speaker 4>Similarly to coach k at Duke, you know you've preid

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<v Speaker 4>a monster and Shire has done a great job there.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm sure that fan base is wondering whins the final.

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<v Speaker 2>Four coming right and he is he the guy? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>both of us were there Duke last year about this

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<v Speaker 2>time next month, and I'm not sure he's the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not my issue. That's somebody else's issue. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>pro I would assume probably not. But you can't argue

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<v Speaker 2>with top ten teams and being a number one in

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<v Speaker 2>Truside in the tournament every year.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, that's not what their standard is. You know

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<v Speaker 4>their standards are standing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Friday tomorrow, there's a Red Blue game at

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<v Speaker 2>seven o'clock, right, what are we going to see? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a Red Blue fan because it kind of drags on,

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<v Speaker 2>you know me, I'm a grumpy old guy.

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<v Speaker 4>So taking an app halfway through it, I wish I could. No,

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<v Speaker 4>I think you know you're gonna have the slam dunk contest.

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<v Speaker 4>kJ Lewis is going to be involved in that. Dog

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<v Speaker 4>Jayden Back might be involved in that. We don't know

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<v Speaker 4>the exact uh participants in that, and what about okay? Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>And then they're going to break up the teams tomorrow

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<v Speaker 4>morning before the game, so they don't have a team

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<v Speaker 4>finalized in terms of he's going to play with what

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<v Speaker 4>I thought? I thought they did a little video yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>with white men and another kid talking about red Blue

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<v Speaker 4>who's going to be their stars and.

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<v Speaker 3>There according to Arizona, they're doing that tomorrow morning.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, well there's no truth and advertising then, because

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<v Speaker 4>I saw that last night unless I drum kid, but

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't have dreampt these two guys picking the teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but okay, we'll see what happens. And it's always

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<v Speaker 2>just a fun time for the fans who typically don't

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<v Speaker 2>get to go to the games. Right, it's a different crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a cheaper ticket.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you're not able to go to a game

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<v Speaker 4>during the season when Duke Arizona plays at sixty seventy

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<v Speaker 4>eighty dollars a pop. Ten dollars, come on in and

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<v Speaker 4>watch Arizona play.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixty seventy eighty dollars a pop. What cheap date are

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<v Speaker 2>you because it's in a thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>Well yeah, nose plead, yeah, nothing but please yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that makes total sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be part of a nice little cozy affair Tommy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, WX poetic with the fans and say welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the next season.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are you looking forward to? See. I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 3>to seeing Carter Bryant. You know, a talented freshman.

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<v Speaker 4>McDonald's All American really should have been a five star

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<v Speaker 4>recruit in many services, but it was a four star recruit.

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<v Speaker 4>The kid can jump out of the gym, has athleticism

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<v Speaker 4>beyond belief, and really good ball skills. He kind of

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<v Speaker 4>reminds me similarly to Tracy McGrady. But you don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to put that much pressure on a kid. But the

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<v Speaker 4>killer instinct needs to be developed a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 4>that's a future first round draft pick, probably lottery pick

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<v Speaker 4>in the next couple of years, if not the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you say the killer instinct?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's moments when I saw him in high

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<v Speaker 4>school in terms of Section seven and travel ball and

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<v Speaker 4>all that, where he let the game come to him,

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<v Speaker 4>which is what you want with a player. But there

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<v Speaker 4>are moments where you need to say, give me the

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<v Speaker 4>damn ball and get out of the way. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>not a DeAndre eighton type of aggressiveness that he needs,

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<v Speaker 4>because DeAndre just played.

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<v Speaker 2>He was good. He was good, He's obviously very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Million dollars was good, but his knock was he plaid

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<v Speaker 2>when he wanted to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it's not that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just you let the game come to you a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit too much and you just have to have

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<v Speaker 4>that moment where you just say, give me the ball

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<v Speaker 2>So he may not need to be that guy this

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<v Speaker 4>know this, mister Troy. They only had one ball.

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<v Speaker 3>They only have to play with the one ball. That's true.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you guys have that attitude? A lot? Good

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<v Speaker 3>luck with that? Yeah, good luck with that one ball?

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of that And dude, you how are you gonna

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<v Speaker 4>And you know what that's a beat about basketball every

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<v Speaker 4>and how do you make that cohesion happen?

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<v Speaker 2>and had that go.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Market in the corner though the ball Market was

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<v Speaker 3>Get him the damn ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I always say, Troy, the best defender that Xavier

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<v Speaker 3>because he couldn't get marketed the ball. That's very fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So tomorrow we're all looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 2>probably on the other hour after we talked to Hoade

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a game before that, so it might start

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<v Speaker 2>I got to make sure you have the because I've

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<v Speaker 3>It was not fun. Get your cup of coffee, get

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<v Speaker 3>your energy drinks, get it ready. Yeah. Oh for Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>should be fun. Like I said, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>I'll ask for your prediction, but I'm assuming part of

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<v Speaker 4>that prediction it's going to be high scoring. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think the over under the sixty eight, somewhere around

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<v Speaker 3>They'll go over. They'll go over.

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<v Speaker 4>In this matchup, Texas tack a team that loves to

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<v Speaker 4>that has kind of figured out its offense along the way. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>one game in one game, one game, so I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if you've heard the show all week. So three

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<v Speaker 4>games they do what they're doing. Three games, you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>what the hell is going on with the team, and

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<v Speaker 4>they're one game they played well, so that one game

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<v Speaker 4>wiped out the three games. I think that one game

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<v Speaker 4>wipes not doesn't wipe them out, but it gives you

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<v Speaker 4>an idea in terms of the balance that they're able

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<v Speaker 4>play caller, he saw a little bit more balanced, a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit more tinied end usage and let's face the

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<v Speaker 4>you were there for the press coverage involving Baber, Yes

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<v Speaker 4>he was. How did he sound? How did he look

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<v Speaker 4>when talking about this? You know, he sounded like it

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<v Speaker 4>was always the plan. I don't know if that's true

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<v Speaker 4>to me at they said that. That's what they say,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what he was told in terms of when

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<v Speaker 4>he was hired, that that was going to be the

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<v Speaker 4>plan to groom a future offense coordinator. And they like

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<v Speaker 4>Matt Akins a lot, and Babers loved what he saw

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of practice, and he has that coaching background

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<v Speaker 4>through his father with Matt Akins, and so they love

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<v Speaker 4>what they saw and it's a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>balanced play calling between him and Babers. And it looked

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<v Speaker 4>to pay off because tight end usage went up, running

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<v Speaker 4>game went up, So it looked on all accounts positive

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<v Speaker 4>for Arizona. And he seemed in a very positive mindset.

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<v Speaker 4>What a what a payout to do what you're doing

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<v Speaker 4>and you're not really the offensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>You just you're grooming ahead, grooming an offensive coordinator and

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<v Speaker 4>putting your flare and offense as well. And you get

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<v Speaker 4>the paycheck and hopefully you succeed at Arizona and you're

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<v Speaker 4>able to become a head coach again at another program,

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<v Speaker 4>because I think that's ultimate goal for Babers is being

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<v Speaker 4>a head coach on another program one day.

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<v Speaker 3>Again. Really, he's about my age, he's like late fifties.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you love the game, right, yeah, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 4>a good if you're your honor mister attorney.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I get what you're going with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you never did that dream of going back and

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, you know you're right.

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<v Speaker 4>Whether it's like a bowling glean. Have you been listening

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<v Speaker 1>This is Eye on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to Lying the Ball Here. I'm Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and with me today

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<v Speaker 2>as Troit. Let's just send and now on the phone

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<v Speaker 2>Cold rabinoum Devil's digestic in Tempe.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold, how are you doing.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a good to say thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was thinking when I was trying to reach

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<v Speaker 2>you this morning and you didn't respond, we got to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that, tod.

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<v Speaker 3>No. No, you know what I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>It says you got to be busy with all the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that's going on with the previous coaching regime.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean that definitely kept us busy. Good thing

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<v Speaker 5>there was no practice to cover today.

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<v Speaker 6>On top of it.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, you know, I think that as on the

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<v Speaker 5>one hand, as much as it evokes a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>negative and unpleasant memories in TMB, I think people are

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<v Speaker 5>so happy that this is just really the final chapter

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<v Speaker 5>in this dark episode of the program History twenty four

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<v Speaker 5>was gonna be the last season anyway that was going

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<v Speaker 5>to be any sanctions levied. The recruiting sanctions that ASU

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<v Speaker 5>had incurred did expire on August press of this year,

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<v Speaker 5>and the reduction in scholarships. Twenty twenty four is the

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<v Speaker 5>last year that that takes place. So the very last

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<v Speaker 5>piece of this very messy puzzle was just just announcing

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<v Speaker 5>how many how many years of show causes Antonio Pierce

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<v Speaker 5>going to get as well Anthony Garnett, who was a

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<v Speaker 5>member of the staff during those recruiting violations. So yeah,

468
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<v Speaker 5>not not a pleasant memory, but also an indication that

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<v Speaker 5>there's things behind ASU and they don't have to talk

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<v Speaker 5>about or dimension and anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, were you a little surprised by the number of

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<v Speaker 4>years that Antonio Piers Scott for show cause of eight years?

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<v Speaker 4>I know people here in Tucson were a little shocked

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<v Speaker 4>by that number, especially given that he's in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, No, I mean, they really warn't good. Look, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>let's let's call it a spit over here. It's the

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<v Speaker 5>most toothless sanction or punishment, and Antonio Piers or anybody

478
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<v Speaker 5>in his position could have received. Antonio Pierce is the

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<v Speaker 5>head coach in the NFL. He's not coming back to

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<v Speaker 5>college football coaching anytime soon probably ever. So you know

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<v Speaker 5>it's like, okay, so you gave him an eight year

482
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<v Speaker 5>show cause, a show cause. I'm sorry you're saying that, Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>if somebody hires you, you're automatically suspended for the first

484
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<v Speaker 5>here with with with that program. So it's you know,

485
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<v Speaker 5>it's really just kind of a joke. But look on Turner,

486
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<v Speaker 5>Pierce really was.

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<v Speaker 6>The mastermind behind all the all.

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<v Speaker 5>These recruiting violations.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, horm Edwards at the time was just a

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<v Speaker 5>really classic figurehead that was all about delegating, delegating, delegating.

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<v Speaker 5>Unfortunate for him and portune for the program he delegated

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<v Speaker 5>to producer. Really, Uh was over aggressive with his with

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<v Speaker 5>his recruiting tactics. Uh during the during the recruiting to

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<v Speaker 5>dead period with the pandemic on top of that. So no,

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<v Speaker 5>I really can't say that I'm surprised, but again, knock

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<v Speaker 5>over state the obvious.

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<v Speaker 6>It is the most toothless. Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Sanctions were punishment anybody could levy on appeers for anybody

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<v Speaker 5>in this position.

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<v Speaker 2>No, question, no question, Uh do you think And I

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<v Speaker 2>guess in some of his responses there were kind of

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<v Speaker 2>cavalier and he kind of knew it is okay, catch

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<v Speaker 2>me if you can.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gone anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know I think, uh, I mean sure that

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<v Speaker 5>that's not I'm trying to turn to pierce his personality

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<v Speaker 5>and you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know On know that better than I do.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, you know, even even though I did cover him

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<v Speaker 5>during a few years that he.

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<v Speaker 6>Was at a s U.

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<v Speaker 5>But look, I think that you know, it really comes

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<v Speaker 5>down to the NC double A enforcement. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 5>is not you know, the the local police department in

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<v Speaker 5>your in your city, let let alone.

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<v Speaker 6>And the FBI or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 5>So their enforcement mechanism is very.

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<v Speaker 6>Very limited. And if you want to really uh.

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<v Speaker 5>You know something, you know sometub you know that them

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<v Speaker 5>and uh, basically it's on I'm not going to cooperate

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<v Speaker 5>with them.

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<v Speaker 6>That there's really.

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<v Speaker 5>Nothing they can do other than, you know, give you

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<v Speaker 5>a punishment that nine percent will never apply to you

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<v Speaker 5>whatsoever in your profession. So yeah, I mean I'm not surprised.

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<v Speaker 5>I turn you know, actually the way he did, you

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<v Speaker 5>know part of it, you know that that that's that's

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<v Speaker 5>an inter peers, and I don't think he would even

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<v Speaker 5>you know, take that as an insult to be told

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<v Speaker 5>in that. But I think also just a matter of

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<v Speaker 5>the fancy double a.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't mean to come back to that.

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<v Speaker 5>Term again, but just being very very very toothless in

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<v Speaker 5>the way it enforces its laws sometimes, let alone enforces

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<v Speaker 5>somebody to really come comply with an investigation that they're running.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, you kind of mentioned it earlier. Is

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<v Speaker 4>sense of relief that it's kind of behind them and

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<v Speaker 4>all this can go away and they can move forward

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<v Speaker 4>and whatnot. Is there also a sense of, man, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>not that we got lucky, but that's all that came

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<v Speaker 4>from it. We're in a good spot in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>recruiting in the future of the program.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's interesting you mentioned that because I've had endless

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<v Speaker 5>discussions with ac fans ever since this broke in twenty

547
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<v Speaker 5>twenty one, which seems like a million years ago, saying

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<v Speaker 5>that the fact that ASCU offered the quote unquote sarcrificial lambs,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, and even before Paul Camp started, they're

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<v Speaker 5>ready suspended one assistant coach two three days into fall camp.

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<v Speaker 6>Already underway.

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<v Speaker 5>They suspended another to some assistant coaches. You know, the

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<v Speaker 5>offensive coordinator was basically resigning from his job because there

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<v Speaker 5>was amount of evidence against them, and that happened if

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<v Speaker 5>they got two months after the twenty twenty one season concluded.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, basically the NCAA was selling as all

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<v Speaker 5>throughout the process, Hey, look we have this amount of

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<v Speaker 5>evidence on coach A, this amount of evidence on coach B.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you do you do what you see? Would

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<v Speaker 5>you see best fits? And obviously the strong su with

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<v Speaker 5>a pretty thick hint say, look, if you're going to

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<v Speaker 5>cooperate from day one, then the ultimate punishments are really

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<v Speaker 5>going to be less less severe nature. So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>just because the process really unfolded from day one, from

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<v Speaker 5>the time the investigation launched and they have twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 5>and I really can't say that I'm that I'm surprised

567
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<v Speaker 5>how everything unfolded and how really the punishments ultimately, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>sure they did hurt the program, but but to your point, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>they could have been much much worse when.

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<v Speaker 6>You look at the the.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolute scope of other recruiting violations that that that did

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<v Speaker 5>take place. I think that that ASCU Uh, definitely, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you know.

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<v Speaker 6>Got off easy if you want to look.

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<v Speaker 3>At it that way.

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<v Speaker 5>But they really cooperated, and they really were suspending and

577
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<v Speaker 5>ultimately firing people from the football staff, you know, left

578
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<v Speaker 5>and left and right. So it's not as if you

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<v Speaker 5>know that that cooperation didn't mean come with with with

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<v Speaker 5>with some price tag attached to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so did you read the whole thing?

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<v Speaker 2>And I asked that because I know I did not,

583
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<v Speaker 2>but I saw somebody's tweet about some of the things

584
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<v Speaker 2>they did with women driving, women driving the bus or

585
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<v Speaker 2>the van or whatever, you know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I mean they did, you know, uh, and

587
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<v Speaker 5>then entertain those recruits you know quite well, whether it's

588
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<v Speaker 5>whether it was that gentlemen clubs or or escorts. It

589
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<v Speaker 5>really was absolutely nefarious stuff. But you know it's just

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<v Speaker 5>a mat And then look, this is not me justifying

591
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<v Speaker 5>what issues, but if I'm providing an explanation, they knew

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<v Speaker 5>that they just had to be very extavagant and do

593
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<v Speaker 5>things that maybe the quote unquote normal recruiting trip did

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<v Speaker 5>not include, and they just really tried to be as lavish.

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<v Speaker 6>As they could be during the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 5>Which I guess somehow they were able to swing that's

597
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<v Speaker 5>that was definitely a toll task back back then. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I did not read the report from cover to cover.

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<v Speaker 5>I did read quite a few expert excerpts of it

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<v Speaker 5>that you know, really speak to the crux of the

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<v Speaker 5>of the relations that took place. And look, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think anything really for me or really really

603
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<v Speaker 5>shocked me, because I think that a su uh to

604
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<v Speaker 5>the detriment with just uber aggressive uh in the matter,

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<v Speaker 5>in the manner that that the recruiting players. I think

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<v Speaker 5>the thing that kind of you know, maybe not blew

607
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<v Speaker 5>me away, but it was like an eye opener that

608
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<v Speaker 5>they actually just had uh some of the prospects uh

609
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<v Speaker 5>do a off campus workout in the park in in

610
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<v Speaker 5>TMP or near campus, and there were coaches and attendance.

611
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<v Speaker 5>Uh just like you know, strolling around the park.

612
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<v Speaker 6>We would just happen to stumble on on some.

613
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<v Speaker 5>Kind of football workout.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>You know that's something that.

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<v Speaker 5>You definitely don't see, uh even with with with with

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<v Speaker 5>other programs with their own recruiting violations. But I really

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<v Speaker 5>can't say I was I was shocked with anything, because

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<v Speaker 5>I just knew when the whole story broke that this

620
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<v Speaker 5>is indication how buber aggressive ASU was with with the

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<v Speaker 5>with the recruiting violations. So it's almost almost to the

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<v Speaker 5>point where, you know, whatever you tell me, as long

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<v Speaker 5>as it's documented and cooperated by a witnesses, doesn't really

624
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<v Speaker 5>flow me at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And not that I want to get into the affixiated

626
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<v Speaker 2>with the strip club stuff, but this is during COVID, right, Yes,

627
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<v Speaker 2>exactly those things were open at the time.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought, I you're talking about you're talking about the

629
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<v Speaker 6>parks themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Not the parks. I'm talking about the strip clubs. I

631
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<v Speaker 3>thought we were. I thought we were shut down.

632
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<v Speaker 5>I guess, I guess you know that they you know,

633
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<v Speaker 5>maybe you know, shut down for the first three months

634
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<v Speaker 5>of COVID, but you know, don't forget that that some

635
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<v Speaker 5>of these violations that take place also in.

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<v Speaker 6>Twenty twenty one, when things were just we're.

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<v Speaker 5>Just more you know, open for like a black a

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<v Speaker 5>bit of term. And I mean, sure, maybe.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe maybe maybe i'd answered the General's.

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<v Speaker 5>Club with the mask or something, but yeah, nonetheless, I

641
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<v Speaker 5>mean whatever the six is worth, Steve, that they found

642
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<v Speaker 5>more of the one aware one way around it.

643
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<v Speaker 4>Let's say, sure, yeah, no question, uh, you know, kind

644
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:04.400
<v Speaker 4>of transitioning to on field stuff and whatnot. As you

645
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:07.440
<v Speaker 4>already played Texas Tech, Arizona's next opponent here this weekend.

646
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:10.279
<v Speaker 4>What did you see from the Red Raiders with that

647
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:13.319
<v Speaker 4>matchup in terms of what Arizona fans should be looking

648
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:15.480
<v Speaker 4>out for when it comes to the Red Raiders offense

649
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:16.039
<v Speaker 4>and defense.

650
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, I think, I mean, we look at

651
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<v Speaker 5>that Texas Tech. I think the staple of that program

652
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.400
<v Speaker 5>is really no different than a lot of other programs

653
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:28.359
<v Speaker 5>in the Big Twelve, and that is that their offense

654
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:32.599
<v Speaker 5>is absolutely fueled by a very good running game. You know,

655
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:35.839
<v Speaker 5>not to say that their quarterback just you know, lacks

656
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.559
<v Speaker 5>you know, basic skills to come at an offense in

657
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:44.480
<v Speaker 5>a power conference, but I think that it's definitely a

658
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<v Speaker 5>scenario where if you can really really limit their running

659
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:50.880
<v Speaker 5>game and then put the onus on the quarterback, I

660
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:53.079
<v Speaker 5>think I think you will, I think you will find success.

661
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 5>And look, I I'll admitted I was very impressed with

662
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<v Speaker 5>what Arizona did to Utah in an insult lake city

663
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.039
<v Speaker 5>because you know, I'm old enough to see a lot

664
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<v Speaker 5>of Utah fans. I'm sorry, a lot of Utah programs

665
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:09.559
<v Speaker 5>before they had a very good quarterback like Cam Rising,

666
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.559
<v Speaker 5>uh you know, quote unquote survived with just a very

667
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:14.640
<v Speaker 5>good defense and in a very in a very good

668
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 5>running game. And I think that what we saw with

669
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:21.920
<v Speaker 5>Arizona is that they were able to just really put

670
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:25.279
<v Speaker 5>the onus on on a young quarterback by shutting down

671
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:28.079
<v Speaker 5>the running game, and that's why they found a lot

672
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 5>of success. So I think that I think that Arizona,

673
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:33.119
<v Speaker 5>you know, if they can take that blueprint and apply

674
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:35.039
<v Speaker 5>it against Texas Tech, I don't.

675
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.400
<v Speaker 6>Know why they would not win, you know, win that game.

676
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:40.240
<v Speaker 5>And Texas Tech to me and I'm not here, you know,

677
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:43.960
<v Speaker 5>uh like mentioning solid grapes or anything like that just

678
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 5>because of Badasu, but they didn't really you know blow

679
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.000
<v Speaker 5>me away with their with their ability or.

680
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:49.519
<v Speaker 6>Anything like that.

681
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.079
<v Speaker 5>I think that is really classic on the the middle

682
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:54.640
<v Speaker 5>of the road team, even in the Big twelve, you know,

683
00:31:54.680 --> 00:32:01.000
<v Speaker 5>on defense, I didn't see you know, really anything eye

684
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:05.440
<v Speaker 5>popping or really super impressive, you know, from them. I

685
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:08.519
<v Speaker 5>don't think their defense comes even close to them to

686
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:10.920
<v Speaker 5>that of Utah because either of a, even though they

687
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:12.920
<v Speaker 5>did big Utah thought they were just running up, you know,

688
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:15.319
<v Speaker 5>up and down the field on them. So I think

689
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:18.720
<v Speaker 5>if if U of A was able to really handle

690
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:21.359
<v Speaker 5>a very good Utah defense in Cult Lake City the

691
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:22.839
<v Speaker 5>way they did, I don't think there's going to be

692
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:27.039
<v Speaker 5>a problem uh doing that against Texas Tech. I think

693
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 5>that a lot of issues that a SU had in

694
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:33.079
<v Speaker 5>that game from an offensive standpoint is that Camps Kataboo,

695
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:37.359
<v Speaker 5>they're starting running back, they just really random way too

696
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:40.880
<v Speaker 5>hard just because there's some injuries that are affecting that position.

697
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

698
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:41.759
<v Speaker 3>You know.

699
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.440
<v Speaker 5>Kenny doing m a SU's head coach, said that when

700
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:47.400
<v Speaker 5>you run run, when you do run one running back

701
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:50.759
<v Speaker 5>time and time again, you're just not really presenting any

702
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:54.559
<v Speaker 5>complexity in creativity, uh, with with your running game, and

703
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:57.880
<v Speaker 5>that makes the opposing run defense be that much more effective.

704
00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:00.119
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what the situation is in terms of

705
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:02.799
<v Speaker 5>the running back depth and Tucson, but I think if

706
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:05.119
<v Speaker 5>you can throw U you know, different running backs and

707
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.880
<v Speaker 5>different running styles at them, uh, you know that that's

708
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:09.319
<v Speaker 5>definitely something that that can.

709
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 6>Help you of A.

710
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:13.039
<v Speaker 5>And I don't think their second day of past rush

711
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:17.119
<v Speaker 5>is anything that the U A really really should be

712
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:19.960
<v Speaker 5>apprehensive about. And with their passing game.

713
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:23.240
<v Speaker 6>Capabilities, I do expect you a to win, you.

714
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:24.960
<v Speaker 5>Know, and maybe something that you you guys been talking

715
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.279
<v Speaker 5>on the show the whole week. It's not so much

716
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.000
<v Speaker 5>maybe the physical aspect, but I was on this week.

717
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 5>I think it's a mental aspect. How how do you

718
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:35.839
<v Speaker 5>actually handle success with a mass After a massive MASSI

719
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.839
<v Speaker 5>win in Salt Lake City, can you really regroup and

720
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:42.160
<v Speaker 5>refocus and just put that impressive win way back in

721
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:45.240
<v Speaker 5>the rearview mirror? Or is that we'ren't going to have

722
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:48.200
<v Speaker 5>some kind of a hangover, Because if it's the latter,

723
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:49.720
<v Speaker 5>I think Texas Tech.

724
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.440
<v Speaker 6>You know, is good enough to beat Arizona, I and Tucson.

725
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:54.200
<v Speaker 5>But again, if I was on a place at the

726
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.200
<v Speaker 5>same level they played at Salt Lake City, I don't

727
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:57.759
<v Speaker 5>see why the wild Cats don't win that game.

728
00:33:57.920 --> 00:33:59.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I totally agree with you.

729
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:02.799
<v Speaker 2>It's the he has the hangover that Arizona usually has

730
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:06.119
<v Speaker 2>trouble with. So we'll see what happens. Hold IM always

731
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>good to talk to you, man. I will talk to

732
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.719
<v Speaker 2>you soon with updates and things like that as we

733
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:15.000
<v Speaker 2>move forward. Thike Tobb, thank you, Hoderbino from the Devils

734
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:16.360
<v Speaker 2>that I just love talking to him.

735
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:18.320
<v Speaker 3>It's funny because he's.

736
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<v Speaker 4>Not a and he said, I'm not here to Sara Grimson.

737
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:23.000
<v Speaker 3>He's not a homer. He's not a homer. He just

738
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<v Speaker 3>kind of tells how it is.

739
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's take a break, come back, talk more about

740
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:29.639
<v Speaker 2>the game. About the football game, right because we're gonna

741
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:30.800
<v Speaker 2>have Reggie Geary on the other side.

742
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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about basketball.

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744
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745
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<v Speaker 4>to the coach and the man who led them, competed

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<v Speaker 4>against them, and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for his

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five years as Arizona's beloved coach. Lessons from Luton

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<v Speaker 4>is an insight to how he built the program into

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<v Speaker 4>a national powerhouse. What one email me at Steve dot

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<v Speaker 1>Bass I on the Ball Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Want

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<v Speaker 1>to take part in the show called up Steve now

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<v Speaker 1>went five to two oh four seventy.

799
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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Why to Ball, Drew Pockfort, Hians Kubavera,

800
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<v Speaker 2>your Troy. I just send yaya to plural. Now we

801
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:19.679
<v Speaker 2>got our guy Ryan here with us in control of

802
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.360
<v Speaker 2>the show. Uh, I was gonna ask you, what was

803
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I gonna ask you? Already forgot seven years? So yeah, hey,

804
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 2>this week is the seven year anniversary of the It's

805
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:32.280
<v Speaker 2>not like Arizona didn't have their issues.

806
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:33.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, issue has their issues.

807
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:37.559
<v Speaker 2>Seven year anniversary of of UA and Sean and book

808
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:41.440
<v Speaker 2>getting in trouble. It happened last week, seven year anniversary,

809
00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 2>but today was the first day that Sean spoke about

810
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.440
<v Speaker 2>it seven years ago. Does it feel seven years ago?

811
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:50.000
<v Speaker 4>No? And you know, it's funny, it felt like it

812
00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 4>was a seven year process during the time, just you know,

813
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:56.880
<v Speaker 4>dragged out and non stop wait and see. But now

814
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 4>that it's been seven years, looking back, it doesn't feel

815
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.199
<v Speaker 4>that it was that long ago that DeAndre Aiden was

816
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:05.320
<v Speaker 4>on campus and he had all the craziness with Booker

817
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:08.119
<v Speaker 4>and Sean and what went down there.

818
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no question, seven years I felt, you know,

819
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.440
<v Speaker 2>like a I don't want the seven year itch kind

820
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:18.880
<v Speaker 2>of thing now. But it took forever. It finally got resolved.

821
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:23.239
<v Speaker 2>All the parties are gone and some did okay, some

822
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:23.599
<v Speaker 2>did not.

823
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:25.519
<v Speaker 3>Some are still in the show.

824
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Cause yeah, yeah, right, yeah. So the good thing is

825
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:33.440
<v Speaker 2>it's over with and Arizona has done well moving on.

826
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:36.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And you know, I think it kind of dragged

827
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:39.599
<v Speaker 4>out there when Sean left it. It felt like the

828
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:42.599
<v Speaker 4>cloud had been lifted from the program that seemed to

829
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:46.320
<v Speaker 4>be a black cloud just sitting there, not only FBI

830
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:48.679
<v Speaker 4>but other stuff that went on during that time. And

831
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:51.159
<v Speaker 4>now you look seven years later, I think the program

832
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:52.800
<v Speaker 4>is in the better place than it was seven years ago.

833
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:56.039
<v Speaker 2>Without question, Thommy's has done a pretty good job with

834
00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:59.639
<v Speaker 2>the excitements. Back at the end of Sean, it was

835
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:03.039
<v Speaker 2>not It's not there. The crowds were in the twelve thousands.

836
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:06.320
<v Speaker 2>People will deny that they were. They were losing a

837
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:10.199
<v Speaker 2>lot of games, and people will deny that it was true.

838
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:15.079
<v Speaker 2>No chance that really deep runs in the NCAA tournament. Honestly,

839
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.559
<v Speaker 2>in my twenty nine years and going to the U

840
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:18.199
<v Speaker 2>of a game.

841
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:20.599
<v Speaker 4>Is as little as a little kid, those were some

842
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:22.760
<v Speaker 4>of the worst crowds I've ever seen that McHale, And

843
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you'll ever have that.

844
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:26.239
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I've been doing it thirty some years

845
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:28.280
<v Speaker 2>and covering it for a team for almost that long.

846
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:37.800
<v Speaker 2>No question, very complacent, very apathetic. They too wanted a change,

847
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:42.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, coach, coach, president Robbins and over my dead

848
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:45.440
<v Speaker 2>body for some of that time, and then eventually they

849
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:47.719
<v Speaker 2>had to say, you know, goodbye, which was the smart

850
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:50.480
<v Speaker 2>thing to do. Yeah, moving on, and everybody had said,

851
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:53.440
<v Speaker 2>who's Tommy Lloyd? Well, here we are with a pretty

852
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:57.360
<v Speaker 2>good program, or watching a pretty good program covering a team. Yeah, okay,

853
00:39:57.480 --> 00:39:59.440
<v Speaker 2>so we'll talk more about football. I know we're getting

854
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:03.760
<v Speaker 2>some calls, so we'll see what happens. I can't so

855
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Texas Tech pretty looked pretty good against the.

856
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 4>Issue solid you know, they struggled a little bit but

857
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:14.480
<v Speaker 4>came away with a close victory over a s U Yeah, yeah, okay, okay,

858
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:15.119
<v Speaker 4>we got a call.

859
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:18.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh you're on the air and I on the ball.

860
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why he sounded so like not content

861
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:24.800
<v Speaker 4>with Antonio Pearce.

862
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Is you know, getting in trouble. He's the coach of

863
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:29.800
<v Speaker 3>the Raiders. Isn't he going throing?

864
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:30.039
<v Speaker 6>Uh?

865
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Only he'd only suffered more if he was the coach

866
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:36.119
<v Speaker 2>of the Cowboys.

867
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:37.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, as a.

868
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:44.039
<v Speaker 4>Yourself, guess where I'm going this weekend, Steve, You're going

869
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.239
<v Speaker 4>to You're going to hold on?

870
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Is it a little legitimate ask? Where are you going?

871
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:49.320
<v Speaker 1>You know?

872
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:51.320
<v Speaker 3>No, I legitimate asked.

873
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.840
<v Speaker 17>I'm going to somewhere you're very familiar.

874
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh, you're going to New Mexico. I'm going to the

875
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Hot Air Balloon. Fish's propriate. That's now, well, you have

876
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:02.679
<v Speaker 3>a chance to go pick some pinon.

877
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:06.440
<v Speaker 4>That's what the season is right now.

878
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:07.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

879
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.920
<v Speaker 17>They're good, They're all different, They're buttery and everything.

880
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:12.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Man, so I'm going.

881
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:14.559
<v Speaker 18>I'm going to see if I'm gonna get red chili

882
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:16.559
<v Speaker 18>on my White Cowboys jersey.

883
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:19.280
<v Speaker 17>It's hard to get red chili as the White Cowboys jersey.

884
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:22.280
<v Speaker 17>But I was calling to make fun of a certain

885
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:26.719
<v Speaker 17>guy that was on this show about the certain mediocrity

886
00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:28.320
<v Speaker 17>sort of like mine, with.

887
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:29.719
<v Speaker 9>The sort of the same lore.

888
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:32.280
<v Speaker 6>But I don't hear that guy at all. Is it?

889
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:34.519
<v Speaker 3>Is there a change? Is my heart broken?

890
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:34.679
<v Speaker 12>Oh?

891
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:34.920
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

892
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know you didn't know Jay's no longer here?

893
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:41.400
<v Speaker 6>Yes, So you guys did it?

894
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:43.079
<v Speaker 3>Do you email me or give me the memo?

895
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Hey, all we have to do is tell the public

896
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:48.360
<v Speaker 2>that that's happening, and you should be listening to us

897
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:52.400
<v Speaker 2>every day. Wegel You know, I thought you were the

898
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.960
<v Speaker 2>most informed guy in Tucson, and now you disappointed me.

899
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:59.599
<v Speaker 18>Well, I've allays here doing see it's my podcast season

900
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 18>as well, so it's crazy.

901
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:03.800
<v Speaker 3>But go to the football game.

902
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:07.119
<v Speaker 18>I know last week was our first big twelve wins,

903
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:10.519
<v Speaker 18>but it's not really our first big twelve win. Our

904
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:13.280
<v Speaker 18>first big twelve wins gonna be if we.

905
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.159
<v Speaker 3>Win on Saturday night. Would you agree?

906
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, well, we've talked about this. I don't know if

907
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:21.840
<v Speaker 2>it's a I don't agree with you because it's last

908
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:23.719
<v Speaker 2>week is a big win, but I think the rest

909
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:26.440
<v Speaker 2>of the season will establish who you are.

910
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:31.360
<v Speaker 3>But but what I'm saying is Utah. You know Utah

911
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:32.840
<v Speaker 3>was already.

912
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.519
<v Speaker 18>They came with us, they tagged along winers, they followed it.

913
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:38.079
<v Speaker 3>I see what just read it fall You know what

914
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:41.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean. This is Texas Tech, you know, Kansas.

915
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:43.880
<v Speaker 18>State, you know, with that debacle, and we're not gonna

916
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:45.760
<v Speaker 18>talk about that to us because we don't.

917
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:50.480
<v Speaker 3>We don't talk about that anymore. This is gonna be

918
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:51.199
<v Speaker 3>the first.

919
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:53.440
<v Speaker 18>One because you know, I've been running my mouth and

920
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:54.800
<v Speaker 18>my mouth.

921
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:57.760
<v Speaker 17>Saying that we're gonna open up your refrigerator, put our

922
00:42:57.880 --> 00:42:59.880
<v Speaker 17>feet on your coffee table.

923
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:02.360
<v Speaker 3>This is this is our chats and this is.

924
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:06.840
<v Speaker 18>One of the first real a real big twelve, big

925
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:08.440
<v Speaker 18>Big twelve teams.

926
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:09.320
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna see your.

927
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:12.599
<v Speaker 18>Big eight teams and this I look at this.

928
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:17.239
<v Speaker 3>Like, if they win, this is gonna be one of

929
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:20.880
<v Speaker 3>the first ones. So sorry, you have your CV your

930
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:27.519
<v Speaker 3>CD radio on. Okay, sir, you another thing. There's a

931
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:28.280
<v Speaker 3>lot of things.

932
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:29.000
<v Speaker 6>Going on in Tucson.

933
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:31.880
<v Speaker 4>Tucson, eat yourself the fist us.

934
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, that thing is grueling.

935
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:36.360
<v Speaker 17>If you want to watch baseball, don't go there. But

936
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:38.000
<v Speaker 17>if you want to give missed up, get miss stuff,

937
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:39.039
<v Speaker 17>go to the game.

938
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:45.159
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Okay, thanks to this show, you know, thank you man,

939
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Miguel.

940
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:47.960
<v Speaker 3>This is Mike. Mike.

941
00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Uh everything you said, if I can remember anything that

942
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 2>he said, I kind of agree. In terms of being

943
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:58.360
<v Speaker 2>the Big twelve, a true Big twelve team, they just

944
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:01.519
<v Speaker 2>gotta win. You know, it's easy, but he just got

945
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:02.039
<v Speaker 2>to win well.

946
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.000
<v Speaker 4>And that's also I'm measuring, Sike of what Big twelve

947
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.320
<v Speaker 4>opponents are going to look like. You know, Utah being

948
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:10.519
<v Speaker 4>a pack tall opponent in Mountain West history. There, you

949
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:13.199
<v Speaker 4>know what they've done Texas Tech that they've been in

950
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:14.920
<v Speaker 4>the Big twelve for a number of years, so this

951
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:17.039
<v Speaker 4>is kind of the norm and the Big twelve, you know,

952
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:19.559
<v Speaker 4>the high powered offense, not a lot of defense, and

953
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:20.599
<v Speaker 4>how do you match up against that?

954
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, back in the day, I'm gonna be like Jay

955
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.400
<v Speaker 2>back in the day in nineteen eighty ninety nine, it

956
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:26.440
<v Speaker 2>was eighty nine, I think it was.

957
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:27.760
<v Speaker 3>I was covering football.

958
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I was, you know, twenty two years old, twenty four

959
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:33.320
<v Speaker 2>years old, whatever, and Jay was covering football too, So

960
00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:34.880
<v Speaker 2>we were competing against each other.

961
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:37.079
<v Speaker 3>And we went to Texas Tech. I was covering from

962
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:38.119
<v Speaker 3>one paper, he was for the other.

963
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:41.159
<v Speaker 2>And Arizona thought, Okay, they're going to Texas Tech. It'll

964
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 2>be a breeze, no problem. And Arizona came out and

965
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:48.360
<v Speaker 2>getting their ass kicked. James Gray ran all over them,

966
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.079
<v Speaker 2>and you're thinking, well, maybe we're not the hutshot team

967
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:53.159
<v Speaker 2>that we thought we were. This is kind of that

968
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:56.719
<v Speaker 2>moment where you have to prove who you are. Last

969
00:44:56.760 --> 00:44:59.599
<v Speaker 2>week Arizona proved kind of who they are, but to me,

970
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:03.800
<v Speaker 2>there's some residual from the three weeks before, but from

971
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:06.360
<v Speaker 2>moving on forward, they have to proof who they are.

972
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:08.440
<v Speaker 2>They have talent? Am I wrong?

973
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:12.960
<v Speaker 3>The talent? Talent? Do they have enough talent. So there's

974
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:13.480
<v Speaker 3>two things.

975
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:17.599
<v Speaker 2>They have talent. They have enough talent. Talent, had great spots,

976
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:24.559
<v Speaker 2>right kicker, quarterback, receiver, CBS, their defense, right running back,

977
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:25.679
<v Speaker 2>where would you put down?

978
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:26.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

979
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:29.559
<v Speaker 4>Solid, solid in the backfield. Okay, So they have a

980
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:32.880
<v Speaker 4>pretty good team. Now they just can't drink the kool

981
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:35.760
<v Speaker 4>aid themselves. Well, I think part of that is consistency.

982
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:38.199
<v Speaker 4>How do you consistently perform? You had a great game

983
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:41.519
<v Speaker 4>against Utah. Again, Cam Rising wasn't there, but what they

984
00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:45.079
<v Speaker 4>did offensively against Utah is nothing to you know, shrug

985
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:48.280
<v Speaker 4>your shoulders about. That's a great defense. Can you be consistent,

986
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.960
<v Speaker 4>especially on the offensive side of the football after the

987
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:54.119
<v Speaker 4>last two weeks where Arizona struggled on the offensive end,

988
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:58.079
<v Speaker 4>can you have that consistency against the Texas Tech defense that,

989
00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:00.719
<v Speaker 4>let's face it, outside of the turnovers, really is a

990
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.360
<v Speaker 4>revolving door out there on the field.

991
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:05.519
<v Speaker 2>M Yeah, I know you're right. So so we'll see

992
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:08.599
<v Speaker 2>what happens. We talked about this before the show started.

993
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I think Troy, I think we've heard I heard seeing

994
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.159
<v Speaker 2>the last of the ringback.

995
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Ray, Shawn Luke, no, no no, no, no.

996
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh.

997
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:20.320
<v Speaker 3>Corey Krossky merrit.

998
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:24.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well not officially, so we don't want to say anything.

999
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:26.639
<v Speaker 2>But I think this is just me saying this. He

1000
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:27.800
<v Speaker 2>hasn't he hasn't played.

1001
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.559
<v Speaker 4>Since he hasn't played, the comments have been will wait

1002
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:33.880
<v Speaker 4>and see, And you know, we're sitting here fifty five games,

1003
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:38.400
<v Speaker 4>almost six weeks and almost you know, if it's if

1004
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:40.840
<v Speaker 4>it hasn't happened at this point, That's how I feel

1005
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:42.960
<v Speaker 4>history tells you at this point it's not going to happen.

1006
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, and whether they want to be koy with

1007
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:48.119
<v Speaker 2>it or whatever, at the very least, at some point soon,

1008
00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:50.480
<v Speaker 2>if it's not gonna happen, it's not gonna happen, they

1009
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:53.599
<v Speaker 2>need to say. And if they if they say, uh,

1010
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:56.599
<v Speaker 2>we're still waiting, that's information too.

1011
00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:00.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, at some point there's news there. I think.

1012
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:04.639
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's similar to again a different situation, but Cam

1013
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.559
<v Speaker 4>Rising last year with the season ending injury for weeks

1014
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.199
<v Speaker 4>and weeks and weeks, Kyle winningham Wash. We'll see, it's

1015
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:12.400
<v Speaker 4>it's day to day, we'll see, We'll see how he

1016
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:14.280
<v Speaker 4>does this week. We'll see how he does this week.

1017
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.920
<v Speaker 4>By mid season, oh he's out for the year. Yeah,

1018
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:18.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, so you knew he was going to be

1019
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:21.320
<v Speaker 4>out for the year for that whole entire time. Is

1020
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:23.519
<v Speaker 4>the situation still learning or do you kind of know

1021
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:24.000
<v Speaker 4>the result?

1022
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:24.400
<v Speaker 3>Well?

1023
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:28.199
<v Speaker 2>This kind of reminds me of when Seawn had Derek

1024
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Williams and he had hand in a cast.

1025
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Or the broken hand and.

1026
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:35.360
<v Speaker 2>The broken non broken hand, because they didn't say it

1027
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:37.840
<v Speaker 2>was broken. We kind of all knew it was broken,

1028
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.519
<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't officially broken because they didn't say, because

1029
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:42.360
<v Speaker 2>you know why, we don't want to give the opponents

1030
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.360
<v Speaker 2>an advantage. What the hell they see it had in

1031
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:48.320
<v Speaker 2>a cast, whether it's broken or not. He hasn't had

1032
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:50.960
<v Speaker 2>in this cast. What's the big deal if you kind

1033
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.639
<v Speaker 2>of walk with the limp? You walk with the limp. No,

1034
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:56.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't you walk with a limp. You can see it.

1035
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:01.199
<v Speaker 3>You need glasses, No, I don't you with my own

1036
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:02.360
<v Speaker 3>eyes while you lying eyes?

1037
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:04.599
<v Speaker 2>Right, of course, So at some point they're going to

1038
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:07.000
<v Speaker 2>say he's coming back or he's not coming back. Yeah,

1039
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:09.639
<v Speaker 2>my opinion that we've seen the lasted I could be wrong.

1040
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:10.760
<v Speaker 3>I would agree.

1041
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:13.159
<v Speaker 4>I would assume that we've seen the last Jacoria cross

1042
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.360
<v Speaker 4>conmerit again, it's still up in the air. They haven't

1043
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.239
<v Speaker 4>commented on it, and it could go either way, but

1044
00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:19.639
<v Speaker 4>I just think this is going to be a situation

1045
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:22.320
<v Speaker 4>where this is what they got in the backfield. There's

1046
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.639
<v Speaker 4>no there's no additions moving forward.

1047
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:27.239
<v Speaker 2>And we may have seen the last we have for

1048
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:28.760
<v Speaker 2>sure of a speedy loop.

1049
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:30.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, he's going to take a red shirt,

1050
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:33.800
<v Speaker 4>and Brennan during his press conference today was very clear

1051
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:36.159
<v Speaker 4>that that was a Rayshon Luke and his family decision

1052
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:39.360
<v Speaker 4>to red shirt and set out the year and developed

1053
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:43.000
<v Speaker 4>that way. And usually when that happens the next during

1054
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:46.400
<v Speaker 4>the off season, the kid transfers. So I'm assuming that's

1055
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:48.239
<v Speaker 4>probably what we're going to see here, but you never know.

1056
00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:50.920
<v Speaker 4>Maybe it is to get stronger, bigger, faster, and he'll

1057
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:53.800
<v Speaker 4>be back next season. But you know, you just get

1058
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:56.239
<v Speaker 4>the feeling that Rayshon Luke is going to be looking

1059
00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:58.079
<v Speaker 4>for a new home this offseason, but he is still

1060
00:48:58.079 --> 00:48:58.880
<v Speaker 4>on the team right now.

1061
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:01.639
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think that's fair for her to say, Uh,

1062
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:06.440
<v Speaker 2>that's another wait and see right. Uh, he's obviously speedy. Yeah,

1063
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<v Speaker 2>and that's not a misnomber. That's that's true. Whether he

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<v Speaker 2>was able to you know, find or be comfortable because

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<v Speaker 2>his one knock was what.

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<v Speaker 4>Could fumbling the ball and the ability to catch the

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<v Speaker 4>ball out of the backfield as well?

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<v Speaker 3>What is he? Is he a FOOTBA player? Yeah? Shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>they do that? Not all asid dB I? They should

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<v Speaker 3>catch the ball? Is it for last week?

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<v Speaker 11>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying in general, how many DB's he said

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<v Speaker 4>to Caio last season? Drop five interceptions? You know you're

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<v Speaker 4>a football player, catch the ball? Right, Okay, I'm a

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<v Speaker 4>radio Guys should know what I'm saying, which, of course

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't mean much.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So we've got about two minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna come back after this break here or after

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<v Speaker 2>this a segment and then come back with Ryan with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of breaking news.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh Diamondbacks. So, by the way, are you okay? Are

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<v Speaker 3>you okay? I don't want to talk about it. Why

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<v Speaker 3>you're fine? You're a young kid.

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<v Speaker 4>There's more heartache in your future, only only positive from

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<v Speaker 4>here on out.

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<v Speaker 3>What world are you leaving? How much is gas in

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<v Speaker 3>your area.

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<v Speaker 4>A dollar or something? How much is bread in your area?

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<v Speaker 4>How much your eggs in your Let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 4>This is called real world stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Troy. Yeah, yeah, you know, don't blow and ain't nothing lead.

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<v Speaker 2>Good and that's there's probably two games you can find

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere along the line, probably more, but that that was

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<v Speaker 2>like last week.

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<v Speaker 4>That was last week, and the whole entire demeanor of

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<v Speaker 4>the organization and the team shifted. You're rolling against uh Milwaukee,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you lose that ain't nothing game, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you lose two out of three to the Rockies, two

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<v Speaker 4>out of three to the Giants. That just seemed to

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<v Speaker 4>be a black cloud hanging around the organization during that time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well, and you can you can pinpoint that are

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<v Speaker 3>we good? Are we good? Down right?

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<v Speaker 2>How much we Yeah, let's let's get out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Come back with you. Ryan on the other side with

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<v Speaker 2>breaking news
