Speaker 1: Welcome to Throwback Thursday.
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Speaker 2: All right, everyone, thanks for being here. I'm so excited
Speaker 2: for this episode. I have one of my best sties
Speaker 2: in the podcasting world, Drew, on tonight and we are
Speaker 2: going to cover one of our favorite movies, or at least,
Speaker 2: let me just speak for myself, one of my favorite
Speaker 2: movies of all time. But before we get into it, Drew,
Speaker 2: how are you?
Speaker 3: I am? Good, mate, really good.
Speaker 4: I'm really happy to be on for this film because,
Speaker 4: like you said, it's not just yours, it's one of
Speaker 4: my favorite films of all time as well.
Speaker 3: It's an epic eighties film eighties.
Speaker 4: But I really can't wait to get into this one
Speaker 4: because after going back and watching it with a keen
Speaker 4: eye this time, I picked up on a lot of
Speaker 4: things that just went straight over my head as a
Speaker 4: kid growing up watching this.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. And like I said before we started recording,
Speaker 2: I hope we didn't find all the same stuff. I
Speaker 2: still hope to blow your mind a little bit, like
Speaker 2: that's always I have to set the bar, like if
Speaker 2: I don't blow Drew's mind, I've failed. So hopefully I
Speaker 2: found something. But it is the verbs. And of course,
Speaker 2: you know, with Tom Hanks and everything, it's one of
Speaker 2: those conspiracy theories that even people who aren't into conspiracy
Speaker 2: theories are starting to know about. You know, it's always
Speaker 2: Tom Hanks that gets brought up. He's like, yeah, conspiracy
Speaker 2: candy at this point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tom Hanks has become very much a thorn in
Speaker 4: the side of the Q people. He's this big personality
Speaker 4: that when everyone talks about Hollywood and the City Underbelly,
Speaker 4: Tom Hanks just happens to be.
Speaker 3: The lead head of this.
Speaker 4: It's like he's some kind of a patriarch of the
Speaker 4: of the pedophilic pedophile, satanic colt or something.
Speaker 3: He's just ye, and it came out nowhere too.
Speaker 4: America's dad, as he's been known, has somehow become the
Speaker 4: most nefarious name in Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was also he was also linked to
Speaker 2: all that Isaac Cappy stuff and just all the weirdness,
Speaker 2: you know. And like one of his sons is like
Speaker 2: pretty hot. Actually he's like a buff dude and doesn't
Speaker 2: really look like Tom Hanks at all. And then you
Speaker 2: have his other son, Colin, that has been in a
Speaker 2: lot of movies that looks almost just like him, like
Speaker 2: a twin of him, And you almost wonder, like, are
Speaker 2: they into all this stuff too? I guess they'd have
Speaker 2: to be right, it's like that's their dad. Guilt by association.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I guess it's one of those separating
Speaker 2: the art from the artist or whatever they say. Because
Speaker 2: I still love the movie. I still watch Tom Hanks
Speaker 2: movies all the time. I always talk about The Money Pit.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you like that one, but yeah.
Speaker 4: It's pretty good, The Money Pit, Big Castaway. There's all
Speaker 4: these great Hollywood films of Tom Hanks. Like I said,
Speaker 4: when you think of the elites of Hollywood and people
Speaker 4: who are genuinely entertaining in their craft. Tom Hanks is
Speaker 4: right up there. So for all these conspiracy theories to
Speaker 4: come out and say, at bare minimum the last five
Speaker 4: to six years, that just blew up the scene in
Speaker 4: conspiracy big time because we.
Speaker 3: All grew up on Tom Hanks.
Speaker 4: Tom Hanks is a fantastic actor.
Speaker 2: One hundred and I know you have a little bit
Speaker 2: of an article you want to read for everyone, just
Speaker 2: maybe to get us started. Yeah, sir, little tease test.
Speaker 4: Absolutely so, this is an article I came across and
Speaker 4: I'll just bring it up on the screen. It really
Speaker 4: spins the tale of what conspiracy theory is for normies.
Speaker 4: And probably all I'd say is left wing politics in
Speaker 4: America and how it's considered today. Tom hanks movie that
Speaker 4: explains modern conspiracy theories, The Burbs, continues to be underrated
Speaker 4: by Cracked. A lot of Tom Hanks's movies help us
Speaker 4: untangle the complexities of the modern world. Philadelphia taught many
Speaker 4: of us about AIDS discrimination, Apollo thirteen was a hainstakingly
Speaker 4: accurate look at the space program, and of course Larry
Speaker 4: Crown was a hard look at well whatever it was
Speaker 4: that happened in the Larry Crown, But we'd like to
Speaker 4: take a minute to talk about Tom hanks most sadly
Speaker 4: underrated projects, the nineteen eighty nine comedy The Urbs, directed
Speaker 4: by Joe Dante. The Suburbs have been a subject of
Speaker 4: a lot of political discourse this year. Donald Trump's reelection
Speaker 4: strategy heavily involved stoking racist fears among white suburbanites, and
Speaker 4: earlier this year, the Republican National Convention hosted Mark and
Speaker 4: Patricia McCloskey, the recently indicted gun toting rejects from the
Speaker 4: Freedom fifty five commercial who threatened Black Lives Matter protesters.
Speaker 4: The couple warned viewers that the Democrats were attempting to
Speaker 4: abolish the suburbs, presumably their warning that Joe Biden would
Speaker 4: personally bathe in the blood of each and every peer
Speaker 4: one shopper, shopper that was cut for time.
Speaker 2: What the fuck right?
Speaker 4: This is varied politicized, spinning every single conspiracy theorist as
Speaker 4: a gun toting white American. Of course, the American suburb's
Speaker 4: real story is inherently racist. One the state's sponsored housing
Speaker 4: projects purposely segregated communities out of the fears of property
Speaker 4: values of white homes would decline Otherwise, One could argue
Speaker 4: that the verbs exclusion of black characters in the story
Speaker 4: about suburbans and aphobia is a giant oversight, but the
Speaker 4: film also grapples with another theme that is sadly relevant today. Ultimately,
Speaker 4: the movie is about how fear, privilege, and isolation are
Speaker 4: the gears to crank out the conspiracy theory sausage. Alarmingly quickly,
Speaker 4: Hanks and friends convince themselves that their residents foreigners are
Speaker 4: Satanists and reflect in real life Satanic panic of the
Speaker 4: mid nineteen eighties. The massisteria of the Satanists were abusing
Speaker 4: children throughout the country, some times through the unholy vessel
Speaker 4: of the Smurfs certainly has echoes in today's batshit crazy
Speaker 4: QAnon conspiracy theory, and it to has been spreading in
Speaker 4: the suburbs. While the Verbs ultimately ends in the revelation
Speaker 4: that the mysterious foreign invaders did commit murder, the twist
Speaker 4: almost feels like an after thought, and they could easily
Speaker 4: exist solely in race fractured psyche. The point that this
Speaker 4: titular verbs can be conserved as the perfect breeding ground
Speaker 4: for irrational, toxic obsession. And while society has gone through
Speaker 4: like twenty Batman's since nineteen eighty nine, sadly that hasn't
Speaker 4: changed what the app a compolete absolute drama of politics
Speaker 4: that's been thrown into this.
Speaker 2: What do you know when we do episodes like this
Speaker 2: and I have people say like, oh, you're grasping at straws. Oh,
Speaker 2: you're splitting hairs, You're doing this, and now that article,
Speaker 2: that article is doing that. Okay, exactly, it's article is
Speaker 2: doing that, not us, not the stuff, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: that shit is grasping at stras.
Speaker 4: It took something that was a nineteen eighty nine classic
Speaker 4: comedy and made it purposely political for no reason.
Speaker 3: If anyone's stoking and yeah, it's stoked.
Speaker 4: The fire division by making it race related war, not
Speaker 4: at all about the actual content of the film, but anyway,
Speaker 4: it just hints at things like Satanism, which are clearly
Speaker 4: within this film by the way, yeah, the script, but
Speaker 4: let's just go off that and everyone's a gun toning
Speaker 4: Trump supporter. Wow, I just found that article very interesting
Speaker 4: in my research.
Speaker 2: Dude, that is fucking wild, Drew. I'm telling you, they
Speaker 2: hit us at every angle with some shit like that,
Speaker 2: Like somebody who wasn't like us, who wasn't into this stuff,
Speaker 2: come across an article like that and they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 2: I never knew that about the bird. It's like what
Speaker 2: the fuck?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 4: Like what?
Speaker 2: That's not what the movie was about at all.
Speaker 5: Not at all.
Speaker 4: It's it's one of those like lecturers at university which
Speaker 4: has a whole unit on white oppression of minority groups,
Speaker 4: and they use this as a focus for their students. Huh,
Speaker 4: I'm reading something into it that's not actually.
Speaker 2: There, right right, Okay, Well, we're gonna have to school
Speaker 2: people now because we gotta we gotta make it right
Speaker 2: for anybody out there who found that article. We got
Speaker 2: to tell them the truth about the fucking verbs. How
Speaker 2: do you want to get started? You you always do
Speaker 2: like the the kind of like the overview and the
Speaker 2: names and stuff. You want to do that first, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Let's get into I've got synopsis there, so did you
Speaker 4: know facts? And then the etymology of the names.
Speaker 5: All Tom Hanks wanted was a quiet vacation at home.
Speaker 4: This is when I need Carol, I need this.
Speaker 5: Welcome to Mayfield Place, a typical street in the burbs.
Speaker 5: Whine Walter were nothing much ever happened. Aren't just stick
Speaker 5: a dump on Rumsfield's lonning again?
Speaker 6: Until the Clopex moved in Clopex Clopex Clopek.
Speaker 5: No one goes in, no one comes out, neighbors from hell.
Speaker 5: It was a nice place to live, he said.
Speaker 4: He thinks that Clopex are evil incarnate.
Speaker 7: Well you're much too smart to fall for that, aren't you, honey.
Speaker 5: But no, Carol, you wouldn't want to visit there. Right,
Speaker 5: This is Walter the Burbs.
Speaker 6: I'm going over the fence when I'm not coming back
Speaker 6: till I find a dead body. Wait, do you wanted
Speaker 6: to take your family kidnap and tear their livers out
Speaker 6: and make some kind of satanic pant take?
Speaker 3: We thought, Walter, we got a real problem the gas.
Speaker 8: I'd ron.
Speaker 5: Love this street, Tom Hanks.
Speaker 6: I think we are overreacting now.
Speaker 5: The Urbs. It's one hell of a neighborhood.
Speaker 2: I think we should move.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 4: The Urbs is the nineteen eighty nine dark comedy thriller
Speaker 4: written by Dana Olson and director by Joe Dante that
Speaker 4: tells the tale of a typical American neighborhood when new
Speaker 4: neighbors come to live in the house next door to
Speaker 4: Ray Peason. He finds out these people are really strange.
Speaker 4: Nobody's ever seen them. The house is a real mess,
Speaker 4: and during the night, weird noises keep coming from their basement.
Speaker 4: The only thing they know is their name, clopec. One day, Walter,
Speaker 4: an old man in the neighborhood, suddenly disappears under mysterious circumstances.
Speaker 4: Ray begins to question the Clopexx involvement, while his friend
Speaker 4: and fellow neighbor Art is convinced that the new family
Speaker 4: on the block is part of a murderous satanic cult.
Speaker 3: Straight off the bat.
Speaker 4: Joe Dante as the director, Oh.
Speaker 2: Don't even say anything, because I got all the ship
Speaker 2: on the drug. You know that's my thing.
Speaker 4: I just gotta just just just a little bit Dante
Speaker 4: Dante's Inferno, the literal story about a man who goes
Speaker 4: to hall to save his wife who's committed suicide. I
Speaker 4: know it just jumped off the bat for me as
Speaker 4: a historian and a literary lover.
Speaker 3: So what have you got on the director?
Speaker 2: I actually this is an m Night Shyamalan twist in
Speaker 2: our episode because I'm not going to reveal anything about
Speaker 2: the director until we get like halfway through the breakdown
Speaker 2: because there's a specific scene that triggers the conspiracy. So
Speaker 2: I'll get to it kind of halfway through. But let
Speaker 2: me hear about the names.
Speaker 3: Give me the name, Okay, I'll go through the names.
Speaker 4: Then we'll go through some did you know facts. Ray
Speaker 4: Peterson Tom Hanks plays their main character in Old German tongue.
Speaker 4: Ray finds fitting roots in Reagan, meaning or advice, elevating
Speaker 4: the bearer to a moral learned stature. Peterson meaning Peter's son,
Speaker 4: is derived from the given name Peter, which is from
Speaker 4: the Greek Petros, meaning rock or stone. So Ray is
Speaker 4: the bed rock of his small community of Mayfield Place.
Speaker 4: He forms his council with fellow neighbors seeking advice on
Speaker 4: the new mysterious neighbors and what they've been doing within
Speaker 4: the confines of the dark and ominous home. So he's
Speaker 4: the counselor and the bed rock of his community. Yeah, Carol,
Speaker 4: his wife, Carol, just being synonymous with folk songs and
Speaker 4: religious significance, she's almost like his moral grounding. She's his
Speaker 4: voice of reason throughout. Oh you're crazy, you're looking too
Speaker 4: much into this. So she's almost like his. His balancing
Speaker 4: scale in this film was ng.
Speaker 3: Though she was very wrong.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Mark Rumsfeld, who plays the neighbor who's like a
Speaker 4: grizzled Vietnam veteran. Roman Latin name Marcos or Martkos has
Speaker 4: been thought to mean lord of war and warlock. Rumsfeld
Speaker 4: is Old English, which means wild garlic. It's believed that
Speaker 4: a strong sense an essence of garlic repels creatures, protecting
Speaker 4: individuals from their harmful intentions. Whilst association with vampires is
Speaker 4: mostly mythical, the symbolism of garlic is a potent guardian
Speaker 4: against darkness still persists. Mark is a grizzled war veteran
Speaker 4: from Vietnam, a man with a keen eye on what
Speaker 4: happens with his street. He forms the physical protect for
Speaker 4: the town, using his military and tactical knowledge to keep
Speaker 4: those he cares about safe, repelling those who mean to
Speaker 4: do them harm. He's the physical soldier and the esoteric
Speaker 4: guardian of his street.
Speaker 2: He definitely is that.
Speaker 4: Art Wagner, which is the conspiracy theorist in this film
Speaker 4: who kind of aligns with what our thinking is. It's
Speaker 4: hilarious loved art art Winengartner Art is a Celtic masculine
Speaker 4: name meaning bear and figuratively means champion, whereas white Gardener
Speaker 4: is a German surname meaning wine. Gardener art embodies the
Speaker 4: essence of his namesake he as he wanders in and
Speaker 4: around the town and the street, going through people's houses,
Speaker 4: eating their food, sitting down, lazing about. He also enjoys
Speaker 4: a good drink, in this case it's beer, not wine,
Speaker 4: So he's just the lays of our easy going guy.
Speaker 4: The last one in the small little group is Ricky Butler,
Speaker 4: who's played by Oh from Grimlins.
Speaker 5: What's his name?
Speaker 4: Corey Felman Corey thank You, one of his last films
Speaker 4: before he.
Speaker 3: Dropped off the face of the earth.
Speaker 4: Ricky Butler German origins meaning powerful leader or brave ruler.
Speaker 3: And it's a short form of Richard.
Speaker 4: Whereas Butler is Old English meaning a bottle bearer. Ricky
Speaker 4: is the leader amongst his group of youthful friends doing
Speaker 4: the typical things of those in his age, hanging around, partying, drinking.
Speaker 4: He brings the beer, the location, and the entertainment for
Speaker 4: his friends group, so you see throughout this film he's
Speaker 4: always got his young group of friends around watching what
Speaker 4: other people are doing and not going out and partying
Speaker 4: like the stereotypical things of the kids at that age.
Speaker 4: Last one, Doctor Werner Clopek, which is our villain for
Speaker 4: this film. Werner is a name of German origin, Werner,
Speaker 4: meaning the defender or the defending warrior. Clopek is Polish
Speaker 4: in origin, a diminutive vermin version sorry of Closs. A
Speaker 4: nickname from Closs roughly translates to ear or spike of cereal,
Speaker 4: which generally means in Polish tongue, probably for someone who's
Speaker 4: small or lanky. Doctor Werner is a small man and
Speaker 4: fierce defender of his family's ancient Germanic Slavic arts, practices
Speaker 4: and secrets. Whilst he cannot defend his family in the
Speaker 4: sense of martial strength and power, he does so through
Speaker 4: his intellect, charm, and panash. We see this guy as
Speaker 4: a very well educated, very worldly man, very different from
Speaker 4: his brother and his nephew, but he defends them in
Speaker 4: that manner through his intellect.
Speaker 2: And he is small as fun like he looks like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he looks like a fucking midget or something. But you know,
Speaker 2: I thought that it might be significant because they kept
Speaker 2: bringing it up in the movie. Like Klopek, Like, what
Speaker 2: is that a Slavic name?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 2: They kept bringing it up in the movie, so I
Speaker 2: thought like it might be I don't know, do you
Speaker 2: think it fits the character well or do you think
Speaker 2: it's just some randomness.
Speaker 4: I think they wanted a Pollock Slavic type of name,
Speaker 4: but it tends to be the more Germanic in their
Speaker 4: origin in this film. And it kind of comes back
Speaker 4: to one of the key sequences later on I'll get into,
Speaker 4: but it refers to a Zooastrian god or demon in
Speaker 4: this case.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Drew, why are you going to come in with
Speaker 2: the heat so early on? Geez, let me grab my
Speaker 2: water real quick. Hang on, no problem, okay, So the
Speaker 2: beginning of the movie, let's just walk ourselves through it.
Speaker 2: Did anything strike you? I'm talking about even the opening
Speaker 2: of the opening of the movie when they're zooming down
Speaker 2: in on the house and like everything after that, did
Speaker 2: anything strike you? Right off the top?
Speaker 3: Well, straight off the get go.
Speaker 4: If you can only go down to conspiracy routes it
Speaker 4: has and it's the producer of the film, the company
Speaker 4: that helped build it and fund it. It goes straight
Speaker 4: to the globe Earth versus flat Earth analogy, because we've
Speaker 4: got the globe, it shows the globe, it zooms in,
Speaker 4: it goes specific part of America and goes down to
Speaker 4: a street level straight away.
Speaker 3: It's setting up the idea or.
Speaker 4: The sigh up that the Earth is a globe versus
Speaker 4: a flat plane, and if you're a biblical person, it's
Speaker 4: a flat plane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what That's the first thing that I noticed too, right,
Speaker 2: Like they got the globe model going for it, and
Speaker 2: then it's zooming down in and you know, compared to
Speaker 2: everything else on the street, obviously, the Klopex house, everything
Speaker 2: is fucking dead. The grass is dead, the trees are dead.
Speaker 2: The house looks fucking dilapidated, which doesn't make sense to
Speaker 2: me because if they had just moved in and just
Speaker 2: murdered the Naps, why weren't the Naps keeping up with
Speaker 2: their shit like they moved in and literally everything fucking
Speaker 2: died overnight or like what I mean. Obviously it's just
Speaker 2: part of the movie for the theatrical version of it,
Speaker 2: but they had literally freshly murdered the Naps and fucking
Speaker 2: the whole house looks like it's been vacant for seventy
Speaker 2: two years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it almost looks as if the land's cursed because
Speaker 4: you've got the immaculate lawns on everyone else's front yards,
Speaker 4: and there's literally a delineation of lime grain that suddenly stops.
Speaker 4: There's no overlap of a little bit of grass slowly dying.
Speaker 4: It's just dead in lines, as if almost it's like
Speaker 4: cursed earth assaulted earth.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so now we have to take into consideration.
Speaker 2: Just tear me out that it goes beyond just the
Speaker 2: physical aspects of these guys being fucking weird, because if
Speaker 2: you can kill grass overnight and trees, then there's probably
Speaker 2: a spiritual aspect to this, Like everything is dead around
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers. And the next scene, like when I put
Speaker 2: in some stuff that I just thought was funny, but
Speaker 2: like the newspaper boy is doing his route or whatever
Speaker 2: and he gets to uh Tom Hanks his house and
Speaker 2: he splashes the coffee at him, like I don't know why,
Speaker 2: but it just gets me every time. It's so funny.
Speaker 4: The hilarious thing I found was the name of the
Speaker 4: straight Mayfield Place because it's a wink and a nod
Speaker 4: to Mayfield, which was the town which the Claves lived in,
Speaker 4: and leave it to Beva. Oh so it's trying to
Speaker 4: tie it's trying to tie back into that Americana like
Speaker 4: Golden age Tom Frame.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And like we kind of get introduced in
Speaker 2: a way to all of the characters in this like
Speaker 2: first five minutes of the movie, because you know, Tom
Speaker 2: Hanks splashes his coffee at the newspaper boy, and then
Speaker 2: it kind of goes over to Rumsfield and his wife,
Speaker 2: who is smoking hot. By the way, if we were
Speaker 2: gonna rate like eighties wives, she's right up there. I mean,
Speaker 2: she's classic eighties wife material. Rumsfield's wife is smoking hot,
Speaker 2: and oh yeah, definitely definitely. And you know, I think
Speaker 2: we see Walter, you know, his dog takes a shit
Speaker 2: on Rumsfield's lawn. We see Corey Feldman aka Ricky Butler,
Speaker 2: and uh, I don't think we see Art until a
Speaker 2: little bit later. But did anything strike you between like
Speaker 2: the opening and then the kitchen scene.
Speaker 4: Noria really kicked off in the kitchen saying that's where
Speaker 4: I stopped me too.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll let you go first and then I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what I found in the kitchen.
Speaker 4: So this is the scene where we do get introduced
Speaker 4: into Art. Kanna just makes his way over and starts
Speaker 4: eating the food and they're chatting. I noticed a little
Speaker 4: nod to a previous Corey Feldman film. In the background,
Speaker 4: there's a box of Grimlin cereal sitting on the shelf.
Speaker 4: I guess I'll go first, go for it, please, all.
Speaker 2: Right, So first I want to say though, in the
Speaker 2: kitchen scene at the beginning of the movie, when he's
Speaker 2: walking through the house and he's arguing with Carol about
Speaker 2: whether or not he's going to go on vacation, there
Speaker 2: is a painting in the background of a little girl
Speaker 2: in a red overall dress with what looks to be
Speaker 2: a bullet hole in the middle of her head, and
Speaker 2: it's like kind of creepy. And I zoomed in on
Speaker 2: it and made it extra big, and it looks like
Speaker 2: there's just a dark circle like right in the middle
Speaker 2: of her forehead. Like she's like, it's like a dead
Speaker 2: girl in the painting. And I look at all the
Speaker 2: background stuff. Right then we get into the other part
Speaker 2: of the kitchen scene and they're they're either eating Grimlin
Speaker 2: cereal or they are it's on the counter. Obviously, the
Speaker 2: Grimlin cereal is out. I me and my sister do
Speaker 2: this with me. By the way, we were both watching it.
Speaker 2: She was born in the eighties. She knows things I
Speaker 2: don't know. I said, is that a real fucking cereal?
Speaker 2: I was like, did bitches be eating Grimlin cereal? She
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god. Yeah. And so I watched
Speaker 2: the commercial for the Grimlin cereal and it goes, satisfy
Speaker 2: the demon inside. Ah okay, that's what the Grimlin cereal
Speaker 2: commercial says. And the director of the Urbs directed the
Speaker 2: Grimlins bro like literally, and there is a lot of
Speaker 2: shit in the Grimlins that is fucking conspiracy theorists shit,
Speaker 2: Like there is the term grim lens came from the
Speaker 2: conspiracy Fuck me, it came from the conspiracy theorist guy
Speaker 2: in the Grimlins, because he was like, they're all coming
Speaker 2: to get us. There's Grimlins everywhere. So even that word
Speaker 2: came from like a conspiracy theory. And he's also one
Speaker 2: of the directors of the Twilight Zone movie. He directed
Speaker 2: the Twilight Zone movie alongside of Steven Spielberg. And there
Speaker 2: were two kids in the Twilight Zone movie that got
Speaker 2: their heads completely decapitated and uh in this fucking horrible
Speaker 2: helicopter accident while they were filming and so there's all
Speaker 2: this weird darkness around this director, and he's putting little
Speaker 2: clues about stuff in the burbs. If you look for it,
Speaker 2: it's there. He's already referenced the Grimlins. There's Corey Feldman's
Speaker 2: wearing a Batman T shirt underneath his other T shirt,
Speaker 2: and quite few scenes. But I mean, what do you
Speaker 2: think about that? I think it's interesting.
Speaker 3: It is I will.
Speaker 4: You mentioned the artwork, right, So I looked at that
Speaker 4: artwork and something. I didn't notice the bullet hole, but
Speaker 4: I noticed the style in which it was painted. It
Speaker 4: looks eerily reminiscent of some Pizzagate.
Speaker 2: Well that's the paintings right, eerily similar, very much so.
Speaker 2: And then you get like the way that they set
Speaker 2: up everything in the background. It has to be on
Speaker 2: purpose because it catches your eye. The Grimlins cereal box
Speaker 2: catches your eye, and the painting in the background caught
Speaker 2: my eye for sure. But anyways, so after this scene, actually,
Speaker 2: and why I know it's got to be on purpose
Speaker 2: is because Art comes through the backyard and he's got
Speaker 2: a fucking gun and he there's no other figurines in
Speaker 2: the entire backyard in his backyard, other than what an
Speaker 2: ow a fucking owl and he shoots the head of
Speaker 2: it off. So I mean, do you think I'm grasping
Speaker 2: at straws because.
Speaker 4: I think that there's the council of like a council
Speaker 4: of owls or wisdom of ows. And the owl is
Speaker 4: very reminiscent of certain elites that gather together at a
Speaker 4: certain grove and raise this molch. It's almost as if
Speaker 4: they're trying to symbolize the death of one kind of
Speaker 4: ancient deity to ushering another one later in the film.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, hmm, yeah, I mean I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 2: And just again, in the kitchen scene, they're kind of
Speaker 2: at the table and Art is talking his head off,
Speaker 2: and in the background they're watching a cartoon. Did you
Speaker 2: catch the cartoon.
Speaker 4: In the back? No?
Speaker 3: I missed it. What was it?
Speaker 2: All right? So again, Perhapsimizo because she recognized it. I
Speaker 2: never would have. She was like, oh, I know exactly
Speaker 2: what that was. They're watching Felix the Cat, and my
Speaker 2: sister actually found the exact episode they were watching in
Speaker 2: the movie, and it's called The Rainbow Parade in Technicolor.
Speaker 2: And if you look at the cover for this cartoon,
Speaker 2: this episode It's like all Wizard of Ozzie and there's
Speaker 2: like rainbows and just the symbolism is off the charts,
Speaker 2: and they're watching that episode in the background of this
Speaker 2: kitchen scene. But I mean, the funny part of it
Speaker 2: if you're not looking at the background and you're looking
Speaker 2: at the forefront. Art is eating his fucking ass off,
Speaker 2: and Ray looks at him and he's like, why didn't
Speaker 2: you go with your wife to her mother's house? And
Speaker 2: He's like, hey, I'm eating here, So.
Speaker 3: Why didn't you go with ze to a mother's house?
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm eating here. Okay. Can you imagine and me
Speaker 5: and the two of them alone for a week? I'd
Speaker 5: rather too broken glass.
Speaker 2: Then he eats He eats a dog food out of
Speaker 2: the dog food bowl. I mean, there's so many iconic moments.
Speaker 2: There's there's actually Aunt Jemima syrup on the table, rip
Speaker 2: Aunt Jemima.
Speaker 4: But like, also do you guess what he grabs out
Speaker 4: of the fridge as well? Ribs, ribs, and a goddamn pineapple.
Speaker 4: He pulls a pineapple out and pineapple and Hawaiian culture
Speaker 4: is a symbol of hospitality, friendship, and fertility.
Speaker 2: But it also upside down means swingers, so it's a
Speaker 2: sexual reference and.
Speaker 3: It is that's the fertility side of things.
Speaker 2: Ruh, yeah, yeah yeah. But I mean the kitchen scene
Speaker 2: in itself is pure comedy because I mean, if I
Speaker 2: was gonna be a character in this movie, I'm one Art.
Speaker 2: There is no other character I would be. I'm actually
Speaker 2: like that in real life. I can't stop eating and
Speaker 2: I can't stop talking about dumb shit. So I'm Art.
Speaker 2: I think you're I think your RUMs.
Speaker 4: Field, Well really.
Speaker 2: Unless you. I mean, I'm not going to tell you
Speaker 2: who you identify with, but if I was going to
Speaker 2: say who, probably probably Rumsfield.
Speaker 4: I probably would be, Yeah, you're not wrong, smoking, hot wife,
Speaker 4: the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So what don't we go to next?
Speaker 3: So this is.
Speaker 4: Where because prior to this this scene sequence where we
Speaker 4: see talking to to our main character about the neighbors,
Speaker 4: we've skimmed over a little part at the start where
Speaker 4: our main character played by Tom Hanks, he goes out
Speaker 4: and he's watching the neighbors. There's some weird noises coming
Speaker 4: from the basement. You hear over and you see Rumsfeld
Speaker 4: having a cigarette or a cigar in the window, watching
Speaker 4: over at night, being his creepy little self as well,
Speaker 4: and they start to get into the minuture of you know,
Speaker 4: he's got a week off, he's on vacation. He doesn't
Speaker 4: really want to do anything. He wants to lays about,
Speaker 4: drink a few beers, doesn't want to go anywhere. But
Speaker 4: this storyline starts to take over his life. He's a
Speaker 4: bit too invested in the neighbors and the issues are
Speaker 4: surrounding them and the weird noises he hears and sees.
Speaker 4: And this is where art really tapped into the Schizzo
Speaker 4: conspiracy side of things.
Speaker 3: When he's eating his food and he's just blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Going off about all the things that he's noticed about
Speaker 4: these neighbors. He says, one thing, though, I spoke to
Speaker 4: the real estate agent about the Clopex buying the house,
Speaker 4: and that's how he knows the last name. So the
Speaker 4: only thing we know about him the last name Clopex,
Speaker 4: which is interesting later on the film there was no
Speaker 4: sale of the house. The house wasn't purchased spoiler or
Speaker 4: so how does his art just talking shit?
Speaker 2: Or we catch us.
Speaker 3: We catched a flood.
Speaker 4: That is, there was a massive era in the continuity
Speaker 4: of the story or it's actually.
Speaker 2: In on it. Maybe I still think I would be
Speaker 2: art though in this story it would be like me
Speaker 2: to be like fucking hiding some shit like that too,
Speaker 2: like I did some fucking digging and shit fucking spying
Speaker 2: on the neighbors. Well, you know, when they're standing outside
Speaker 2: the garage and he's like, oh, did I show you
Speaker 2: these these tools that Carol's dad got me, and you know,
Speaker 2: they're talking back and forth, and he's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: those are beautiful. What are you gonna build something with those?
Speaker 5: So what are you gonna do first?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Hey, that show you my new tools. Yeah, these are great.
Speaker 4: Carol's father gave.
Speaker 5: Him to me for Christmas. Huh Oh those are beauties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna build something with us, I think so.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just so it's just pure comedy, pure comedy.
Speaker 2: He's like, you want to go stop by the deli
Speaker 2: and get one of those sandwiches. I mean, I just
Speaker 2: love this movie so much. It's near and dear to
Speaker 2: my heart. But there is so much stuff in there,
Speaker 2: and you know, raise a pussy like for the first
Speaker 2: like half of the movie, because even when they're standing
Speaker 2: outside at you know, talking back and forth in the garage.
Speaker 2: Fucking This is where we see the first Cloepec fucking
Speaker 2: Haunts makes his debut. And I don't know, Drew. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not a hater against Gingers, obviously for apparent reasons,
Speaker 2: but damn, okay, they couldn't have picked a more crip
Speaker 2: keeper ass looking purple circles under the eye, fucking nasty
Speaker 2: ass Ginger. I mean that dude looked like walking hepatitis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he fell out of the ugly tree and hit
Speaker 3: every branch on the right down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean obviously some of its makeup,
Speaker 2: but god, damn, Hans is fucked up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is where we see him. They notice him
Speaker 4: because no one's ever seen these people, and he's standing
Speaker 4: out the front, and everyone's like once you go say hello, No, no,
Speaker 4: you go say hello. You're his neighbor. You're his neighbor too.
Speaker 4: You're in the same coulder sack. Yeah, but you live
Speaker 4: right next to him, you share a border. And it's
Speaker 4: like that, almost like the kid type of no you
Speaker 4: ring the doorbell, no, you ring the doorbell approach. And
Speaker 4: this is when a comedy really comes into its own,
Speaker 4: where we see these characters, although they've got this conspiracy
Speaker 4: going on, they're trying to figure it out. It's very
Speaker 4: reminiscent of almost like a preteen kid's story about them
Speaker 4: dingdong ditching houses and that weird neighbor that's trying to
Speaker 4: figure out. But they've transplanted to an adult theme.
Speaker 2: Mm hm because just in the kitchen something else I
Speaker 2: think I guess I forgot to mention is like Art
Speaker 2: eating ribs and he's talking to raise kid and he
Speaker 2: was like, I saw him in the backyard digging like grave. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so they know nothing about the family other than their
Speaker 2: last name, but now they're grave diggers and you know
Speaker 2: all this stuff and fucking they're daring each other to
Speaker 2: go up to well, you know, he's about to go
Speaker 2: back in the house. You could just say, oh, you're
Speaker 2: gonna miss him, you're gonna miss him, and like they're
Speaker 2: daring each other to go say hello, and he goes back,
Speaker 2: Hans goes back into the house, and uh, they pretty
Speaker 2: much dare each other to knock on the door. And
Speaker 2: this is where some more conspiracy stuff comes in. I'll
Speaker 2: let you go first.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so this they go, I'll go if you
Speaker 4: go and they work up the courage, they go up
Speaker 4: to the front door.
Speaker 3: As they're walking in book.
Speaker 4: Goes through the decking of the of the front of
Speaker 4: the house, lift their foot up and as they go
Speaker 4: to knock on the door, it's originally stated his house
Speaker 4: six six' nine knock on the, door nile falls out
Speaker 4: and six six six very intentional on the film and
Speaker 4: to be the devil's. Number but the interesting part is
Speaker 4: when they go to hit the doorbell and they push
Speaker 4: their finger through and the bees start coming out from.
Speaker 4: Everywhere now this is a purely comedy effect that they're
Speaker 4: getting chased by bees and the neighbor has.
Speaker 3: To wet them down with the.
Speaker 4: Hose but the bee itself is very symbolic of masonry
Speaker 4: form of a hive, mind the, hexagon the, bee the
Speaker 4: idea that the bee is a sacred symbol and has
Speaker 4: this energetic field around it that can heal and.
Speaker 3: Be used for certain.
Speaker 4: Things it's built into the fabric of freemasonry because it's
Speaker 4: like the perfect structure in nature and bees the capable
Speaker 4: of building. It SO i thought that was a bit
Speaker 4: of a cheeky nod to. It they kind of distracted
Speaker 4: us with the six sixty, six which was very, intentional
Speaker 4: but hit away bees as being the real symbol and
Speaker 4: what's going on.
Speaker 2: There and the door knocker is a little devil with
Speaker 2: a little devil, horns.
Speaker 4: It, is and that'll come back to a certain deity later,
Speaker 4: on WHICH i find very interesting that the house already
Speaker 4: had that structures associated with it before they moved.
Speaker 9: In ah, okay all, Right, Yeah SO i think that
Speaker 9: within the five seconds they were standing on the, porch
Speaker 9: we found three, things, right like.
Speaker 2: The six six six, obviously but the bees and the
Speaker 2: knocker to the door with the little devil head on.
Speaker 2: IT i actually have in my. Notes they used the
Speaker 2: color blue a lot in this. Movie and BLUE i
Speaker 2: was kind of looking into. It it's supposed to be
Speaker 2: related to expression and communication within, occultism BUT i kind
Speaker 2: of saw it as like some times they use blue
Speaker 2: in movies to convey a certain, emotion like isolation and
Speaker 2: shit like. That BUT i felt like they were using
Speaker 2: it a lot in this. Movie and it's almost like
Speaker 2: they're getting into our, minds because everything you see on
Speaker 2: screen somehow translates into your mind as something, else, Right
Speaker 2: so by bombarding us with imagery and certain, colors it
Speaker 2: does trigger something in the. Mind SO i did notice
Speaker 2: that a lot of the, outfits a lot of the,
Speaker 2: houses a lot of the just random. Stuff it was
Speaker 2: like blue and, Yeah SO i just wanted to mention,
Speaker 2: that and then did you catch anything right after? That
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i have something in my. Nose but it's the next.
Speaker 4: Scene, well there was another gaff that occurred in this,
Speaker 4: scene AND i THOUGHT i was hearing things and had
Speaker 4: to go back deliberately and, like listen to it three.
Speaker 4: Times there's someone, screaming help, me help me at the
Speaker 4: top of their, lungs AND i, thought, oh maybe this
Speaker 4: is one of the people in the. Basement turns out
Speaker 4: depends on which edition you got a hold. Of there's
Speaker 4: background noise which has been saturated into it because that
Speaker 4: lot which they filmed on was right next to The jaws,
Speaker 4: ride so people who are on the ride are, screaming
Speaker 4: helped me, Out help. Me it's a part of the,
Speaker 4: ride and it was put into the original soundtrack of
Speaker 4: digital backing, noise and they're only deleted at post.
Speaker 3: Production but there's.
Speaker 4: Some versions of this that you can get that are old.
Speaker 4: Enough it has the scene so you can hear.
Speaker 2: It oh my. God, well that goes along with the.
Speaker 2: Movie they probably should have amplified the sound of it
Speaker 2: and made it part of the, movie like somebody was
Speaker 2: like screaming in the basement or.
Speaker 4: Something, yeah so there's that sound saturation that was in
Speaker 4: there the house we just spoke. About beyond, that this
Speaker 4: is where we move into starting to understand and get
Speaker 4: to know the neighbors a little bit. More and this
Speaker 4: all kinds of coalesces are Around walter. Disappearing so the
Speaker 4: old guy at the start With, queen the cute little
Speaker 4: black toy, poodle he's.
Speaker 3: Just up and.
Speaker 4: Disappeared and the only reason they know he's disappeared is
Speaker 4: Because queen is running around out in the street by. Herself,
Speaker 4: Ironically queeny is the exact same dog that Played precious
Speaker 4: In silence of The Lamps No.
Speaker 2: Film oh she's So cuteye.
Speaker 4: Is all, right it's just got these weird. Owners queenie
Speaker 4: runs up To queenie runs up To uh to one
Speaker 4: Of rumsfeld's, wife and she looks after. Him there's something
Speaker 4: that's gotta be wrong With, walter Because walters wouldn't let
Speaker 4: her by by. Herself and they go to check the
Speaker 4: house out to see what's happened To walter and it's.
Speaker 4: Locked they can't see him there until we See. Rumsfeld
Speaker 4: he goes in through the, back you, know very cloak and.
Speaker 4: Dagger special forces guy pulled the glass out and they
Speaker 4: go into the house to check On, rumsfeld to Check,
Speaker 4: rumseveld to check For. Walter and he walks. In the
Speaker 4: first thing he notices the TV's, on but the chairs
Speaker 4: on the ground looks like there's been a struggle.
Speaker 2: Here sign a struggle a chair.
Speaker 4: A chair over isn't really a sign of a struggle,
Speaker 4: There and they're just looking around the. House and it's
Speaker 4: quite funny during this whole time because what we end
Speaker 4: up seeing is that at a certain point in this,
Speaker 4: sequence they're looking through at the house and they're looking for,
Speaker 4: things and we've Got art looking for. Food, ironically he's, like,
Speaker 4: HEY i found some cookies and he opens the door
Speaker 4: and smashes and breaks. Things when he leaves the, house
Speaker 4: he's got two wristwatches, on so he's pinched one of
Speaker 4: his watches the. House no starts off going in with one,
Speaker 4: watch leaves of the second. One so there's something about
Speaker 4: this guy whi's a little bit.
Speaker 3: Off he takes.
Speaker 4: Advantage he takes people's, food takes, watches who knows what
Speaker 4: else he's, Doing literally a fucking.
Speaker 2: Kleptomaniac Maybe i'm Not. Art Maybe i'm. Not NO i,
Speaker 2: AM i am minus the, Thievery i'm Definitely. Art but
Speaker 2: is this before or After ray sneaks out of the
Speaker 2: house to have a cigar and they talk? Outside is that?
Speaker 2: Before do they go To? Walters before or after?
Speaker 3: THAT i think it might be?
Speaker 2: Before, okay, okay because what my notes pick up on
Speaker 2: that conversation when he takes the dog for a walk
Speaker 2: and goes over and talk To art And Ricky butler
Speaker 2: Because Corey. Feldman Ricky butler brings up the Movie The
Speaker 2: sentinel about a doorway being opened up Into, hell AND
Speaker 2: i went and watched the trailer for this. Movie it's
Speaker 2: got Like Jeff goldbloom And christopher walking and it actually
Speaker 2: looks like it would be a really classic horror. MOVIE
Speaker 2: i had never seen it, before but it reminded me
Speaker 2: of The Original exorcist a little, bit so it's a real.
Speaker 2: MOVIE i don't know if you had any notes on
Speaker 2: that part in, particular But art also tells this story
Speaker 2: About skip and murdering his old. House did it not
Speaker 2: remind you or was it not similar kind of to
Speaker 2: like Maybe John Wayne gacy little bit murdering people and
Speaker 2: burying them in his, basement and he was a, big.
Speaker 4: Fat guy in, like oh a little, bit and they
Speaker 4: kind of reference aspects of that that there was a
Speaker 4: certain time In american culture in which people were almost
Speaker 4: activated to be serial, killers and they seemed to be
Speaker 4: like the average. Person they all seem to have had
Speaker 4: military experience where they'll probably, brainwash but they just snap
Speaker 4: and they kill. People and the skip stories of this
Speaker 4: guy that would serve sodas at the soda fountain and
Speaker 4: one day he just snapped and killed his, family put
Speaker 4: the bodies down the cool, room but the power went
Speaker 4: out that summer and everyone could smell their decomposing. Bodies
Speaker 4: very reminiscent of us serial killers that just you, know
Speaker 4: hid bodies in their, houses.
Speaker 2: Hid bodies in. Abasement, yeah it's. Crazy and they were, like,
Speaker 2: YEAH i just snapped one day and just went back
Speaker 2: to making cherry fast feats for the whatever he. Said
Speaker 2: but the thing, is, though is it reminded me Of
Speaker 2: John geesey just because of the bodies in the basement.
Speaker 2: Thing and then later on in the dream sequence there's
Speaker 2: an appearance By, skip and it's obviously, art but it's
Speaker 2: like a big fat guy who makes fucking ice cream
Speaker 2: treats for the townsfolk who ends up. Snapping and they
Speaker 2: always make serial killers out to be like, that but
Speaker 2: in my, opinion it's always by design in some form or.
Speaker 2: Fashion like serial, killers some of them, maybe but a
Speaker 2: lot of them don't act out of random acts of.
Speaker 2: Violence is definitely more programmed in my. Opinion BUT i
Speaker 2: thought that was interesting that they included that as a
Speaker 2: tidbit in this, movie.
Speaker 4: And they almost try to saturate it into the public
Speaker 4: sake because they preface it with every small town's got
Speaker 4: one of these, stories and then he tells a story About.
Speaker 4: Skip it's almost like planting the seed that would light
Speaker 4: to become the serial killer phenomenon that we, say which
Speaker 4: a white housewives who were hooked on these podcasts.
Speaker 2: About real.
Speaker 4: And every goddamn town seems to have one of those.
Speaker 3: Stories.
Speaker 4: Right my own hometown has one of these stories where
Speaker 4: a guy killed his, wife buried, her and then built
Speaker 4: a shed over the top shut up the.
Speaker 3: Town someone in my.
Speaker 4: Town SO i used to walk past this guy's house
Speaker 4: as a little kid on the way to, kindergarten and
Speaker 4: he killed his. Wife no one knew what happened to,
Speaker 4: her buried, her built a concrete slab over the, top
Speaker 4: built a shed on top of, it and they didn't
Speaker 4: find it UNTIL i was like twenty, five twenty six years.
Speaker 2: Old so did he blab or they just found her.
Speaker 4: BODY i think they found the, body but he must
Speaker 4: have been talking to someone for them to look had
Speaker 4: to have.
Speaker 2: Been you know what my sister said the other. Day
Speaker 2: she's worse than me about watching true crime. Shows she's
Speaker 2: got this whole thing worked out where she's gonna if
Speaker 2: it ever needed to, happen she would kill someone and
Speaker 2: bury them up and, down straight up and, down and
Speaker 2: then bury a die over top of them, sideways so
Speaker 2: that if they ever went, flicking they the.
Speaker 10: DOG i was, like you know how deep of a
Speaker 10: hole you'd have to take to bury someone standing up
Speaker 10: and then bury a dog on top.
Speaker 2: Of them sideways like that Is she's put a lot
Speaker 2: of thought into.
Speaker 3: This not be along With julia's.
Speaker 2: Sister i'm living with.
Speaker 4: Her how do you think.
Speaker 2: DID i do the dishes well.
Speaker 4: Enough for your, SISTER i didn't put the tails back
Speaker 4: on the?
Speaker 2: Rack CAN i get you? Anything but, yeah, No SO
Speaker 2: i thought that was a little interesting thing that they
Speaker 2: tossed into the. Movie and do you have anything else after?
Speaker 2: That because the next NOTE i have is something That
Speaker 2: Ricky butler was saying about the neighborhood to his little.
Speaker 2: Girlfriend that's the next SCENE i have no.
Speaker 4: Sign, right just to finish, off when they went Into
Speaker 4: walter's house to check if heels, alive there's a photo
Speaker 4: Of walter And Lucille ball on one of the side,
Speaker 4: cabinets a group of, photos which is interesting Because walter
Speaker 4: is played by a man Named gordon who actually was
Speaker 4: a character on a lot Of Lucy bowl. SHOWS I Love,
Speaker 4: lucy my favorite. Husband they were on these television shows. Together,
Speaker 4: now this could just be a wink and a nod
Speaker 4: Within hollywood that these people worked together. Before But Lucille
Speaker 4: bull in herself has a conspiratorial background surrounding, it does she?
Speaker 2: Does but you, Know, drew this is WHY i, say
Speaker 2: And i'm so glad you brought that, up BECAUSE i
Speaker 2: Know i've already said. This but when people say that
Speaker 2: we grasp at straws or we're splitting hairs when we
Speaker 2: do episodes like, this because we're looking at the, Background
Speaker 2: we're looking at all these minute, details and they think
Speaker 2: that it's just a coincidence or we're you, know trying
Speaker 2: to make it something that it's. Not but putting all
Speaker 2: those little clues in, there that's not an, Accident like,
Speaker 2: he like the director he Directed, gremlins puts the gremlin
Speaker 2: cereal in. There you, know the small little details like
Speaker 2: that are on. Purpose and so having that picture sitting,
Speaker 2: there that wasn't an. Accident you, know there is stuff
Speaker 2: going on in the background of these.
Speaker 4: Movies, yeah the average person would say that these are
Speaker 4: easter eggs or little just nuggets put in the artistic.
Speaker 4: Flare BUT i tend to think that there's probably a
Speaker 4: bit more revelation of the method and kind of showing
Speaker 4: their hand that overtly saying it and doing it through
Speaker 4: symbolism of having things in the, background in the, foreground
Speaker 4: hidden away in, dialogue that type of, thing.
Speaker 2: And like the. Imagery you, know even if it's just
Speaker 2: a flash of a second of seeing something like, that
Speaker 2: you may have not processed, it but it went into your,
Speaker 2: mind you. Know and so the next notes THAT i
Speaker 2: have is That coreyman is saying watching people in his
Speaker 2: neighborhood is more entertaining than going to the movies because it's.
Speaker 2: Real AND i was, like isn't that the? Truth because
Speaker 2: reality is always stranger than. Fiction and the Way corey
Speaker 2: describes living in that, neighborhood it's very stuck in the
Speaker 2: matrix c kind of vibe because everyone has a. Routine
Speaker 2: it's almost like The Truman. Show he knows exactly what
Speaker 2: each of his neighbors does at each you, know given.
Speaker 2: Time oh he's about to walk out of his door
Speaker 2: and say he's taking the dog for a. Walk oh
Speaker 2: he's doing, this always doing. That and it does tend
Speaker 2: to be like that when you live in neighborhoods that
Speaker 2: are so you get, up you nine to, five it
Speaker 2: you come, home you watch the same show at, night
Speaker 2: you do your little. Routine it's very stuck in the.
Speaker 2: Matrixy it's really a study in human psychology almost how
Speaker 2: people get stuck in these matrix. Neighborhoods it's almost like
Speaker 2: is anything? Real the only thing that seems real to
Speaker 2: me is the clopex.
Speaker 4: That dialogue that where he says that it's everything here is,
Speaker 4: real it's better than. Television it throws away to a
Speaker 4: ligne later in the film Which i've got to mention,
Speaker 4: Now Tom, hanks our main, character he goes on a
Speaker 4: bit of a rant about how you know The clopex
Speaker 4: were good people and where you were the monsters all
Speaker 4: arong along where the bear guys where the?
Speaker 3: Evildoers?
Speaker 4: Well was that just revelation of the method in himself
Speaker 4: considering the controversy Surrounding Tom hanks And podesta emails And.
Speaker 4: Pizzagate is he just putting it out in the open
Speaker 4: telling people what really is going on, Allegedly.
Speaker 2: Oh good, Catch like we are the monsters and the
Speaker 2: ones that we make out to be the monsters are,
Speaker 2: not even though they. Were but it's like in that, context,
Speaker 2: yeah that's. Good that was a good. Catch did you
Speaker 2: have anything Before hans drives to the end of the
Speaker 2: street and beats the garbage with a. Stick i've never seen.
Speaker 4: THAT i never seen anybody drive their garbage down to
Speaker 4: the street and then bang the hell out of it
Speaker 4: with a.
Speaker 5: Stick i've never seen.
Speaker 4: THAT i. DON'T i just had the way in which
Speaker 4: he was really going to town on my.
Speaker 2: Garbage that's one of my favorite. Seats it's, like who
Speaker 2: do you know that drives their trashed down to the
Speaker 2: end of the street and then beats it with a.
Speaker 4: Stick, well this is a funny thing because some driveways
Speaker 4: In australia can beklometers long at some. Point so my
Speaker 4: wife's family, home where my father in law still, lives
Speaker 4: you literally have to drive half a kilometer down the.
Speaker 2: Road he beat it with his, stick though.
Speaker 3: Sometimes depends on how.
Speaker 2: Bullets oh my, GOD i hope he's not a. Redhead
Speaker 2: he Fucking Hans hans is your father in? Law?
Speaker 3: What but.
Speaker 2: SO i actually have some notes on the next morning
Speaker 2: After hans beats the shit out of the garbage with the.
Speaker 2: Stick SHOULD i go first or should.
Speaker 3: You please go for? It let me value?
Speaker 2: It, okay. Okay so one of the garbage men has
Speaker 2: a rainbow badge on his coverall, okay and he's talking
Speaker 2: about metaphysics and quote unquote the power of crystals blah blah,
Speaker 2: blah literally talking about witchcraft and tells the other guy
Speaker 2: he needs to open himself, up and talking about the
Speaker 2: laying on of hands and, shit and he's wearing This
Speaker 2: democrat pin on the other side of His coverall that says.
Speaker 2: McCarty and so this, DUDE i, mean you can break
Speaker 2: in and tell me what you. Think BUT i, MEAN
Speaker 2: i never noticed that UNTIL i watched it yesterday about
Speaker 2: that conversation they were.
Speaker 4: Having, LIKEWISE i knew you'd pick up on the crystals
Speaker 4: and the metaphysical, stuff SO i didn't take too.
Speaker 3: Many notes on.
Speaker 4: It BUT i found it really interesting that it was
Speaker 4: the democrat of what's going on with the, rainbow the
Speaker 4: inversion of the, rainbow, right the rainbow And christian theology
Speaker 4: Is god's promised not to flood the world, again but
Speaker 4: for The New ages that means something completely.
Speaker 3: Different and he had almost like.
Speaker 4: This weird dialectical conversation with the garbage man who is From.
Speaker 4: Grimlins you, Know dante's just re using the same, cast
Speaker 4: the exact same character.
Speaker 2: Too he's the conspiracy theorist in The.
Speaker 4: Grimminals yeah, right and he's having this conversation about, you
Speaker 4: like you, said the metaphysicals of the world and how
Speaker 4: you can.
Speaker 3: Lay hands on people healing This New age type of.
Speaker 4: Approach and this guy's very much a, grounded solid blue collar,
Speaker 4: worker just wants.
Speaker 3: To put the rubbish in the.
Speaker 4: Bin and this is where we see our art. Runner
Speaker 4: i've grabbed the rubbish and start just dumping it on the,
Speaker 4: ground and he starts going through like the legal lace
Speaker 4: of things you have according to the. Law you, know
Speaker 4: people have access to. Garbage once it's on the side
Speaker 4: of the, right it's becomes public. Domain so then very
Speaker 4: much focusing on some legal lays THAT i thought was very,
Speaker 4: strange can see in the context of the, film and.
Speaker 2: It's almost, like of, course the democrat guy with the
Speaker 2: rainbow sticker on his coveralls is the one that's, like
Speaker 2: you can't tell him he can't throw garbage in the,
Speaker 2: street and and then the person with the common sense
Speaker 2: that's got to pick it all up is, like what
Speaker 2: the fuck are you doing throw garbage in the. Street
Speaker 2: it's almost like the juxtaposition of people who are in
Speaker 2: their right mind and people who are. Not he's literally
Speaker 2: just got done talking about laying on of hands and
Speaker 2: crystals and metaphysical and you need to change your, life
Speaker 2: and talking about, witchcraft and then the other guy's, like
Speaker 2: you're fucking. Bonkers and he's also the one that's, like
Speaker 2: why the fuck are you throwing trash in the, Street
Speaker 2: like he's the grounded common sense guy and the other
Speaker 2: guy's in Fucking la la land. Somewhere what does that
Speaker 2: sound like that it's still a.
Speaker 4: Problem, well it sounds like it sounds like a little
Speaker 4: saying that we're familiar, with do what thou? Wilt people
Speaker 4: just doing what they. Want and it gets to the
Speaker 4: point where the garbage man's, like can you help this guy, out,
Speaker 4: like you.
Speaker 3: Know stop the guy from putting rubish on the. Ground
Speaker 3: and what's he? Doing helps?
Speaker 2: Him, yeah he starts putting more garbage on the. Ground
Speaker 2: that's the, thing, though isn't. It it's such a like
Speaker 2: that scene in the even in itself is kind of
Speaker 2: like telling of a lot of. Things but SO i
Speaker 2: don't know how quickly this next scene. Happens but my
Speaker 2: notes go to when they're in the basement with the
Speaker 2: Uh demonology? Book did you have anything before? That? No
Speaker 2: you keep, going okayilet's keep the they're in the. BASEMENT
Speaker 2: i actually had. THIS i don't know if you remember
Speaker 2: or ever heard, it BUT i had this scene as
Speaker 2: my intro to my. Show. Yeah, yeah so this this
Speaker 2: is always been near and dear to my heart BECAUSE
Speaker 2: i find it absolutely.
Speaker 6: Hilarious, OH i can't believe you're still bringing that out a.
Speaker 5: DREAM a plane was gonna, crash or it took the
Speaker 5: bus To Las.
Speaker 6: Vegas If i'd have been on the, plane it would have.
Speaker 6: Crashed and it doesn't. Matter this wasn't a, dream this
Speaker 6: was a. Vision i'm telling. You these people Are. Satanists
Speaker 6: AS i sit, here they Are. Satanists.
Speaker 5: Look, look the world is all of these kind of.
Speaker 6: Things look at, this black, masses, mutilations, mutilations.
Speaker 5: The, incabus the.
Speaker 6: Suckabus i'm telling, You walter was a human.
Speaker 5: Sacrifice you should have gone to the. LAKE i should
Speaker 5: have listened To.
Speaker 3: Carol listen to your. Wife who listens to their?
Speaker 5: Wife?
Speaker 7: Listen you gotta listen to. Me you know what deel.
Speaker 6: Is what we gotta do is we gotta go down
Speaker 6: to the religious supply. Store we gotta get ourselves a
Speaker 6: couple of gallons of holy. Water my Cousin jerry's a preat.
Speaker 5: You can get us a.
Speaker 7: Deal, no, no we gotta go to the.
Speaker 6: Market we gotta get ourselves a couple of those big.
Speaker 6: Strings you know they string that, GARLIC a couple of
Speaker 6: big strings of. Garlic we gotta get ourselves some fresh lambs,
Speaker 6: blood and then we gotta.
Speaker 3: Ray do you want them to take.
Speaker 6: Your family kidnap and tear their livers out and make
Speaker 6: some kind of satanic pat.
Speaker 5: Tay i'm not going to listen to.
Speaker 6: This you're, chanting going, here it is now going through unconscious.
Speaker 6: Chanting you're, CHANTING i want to kill. Everyone satan is,
Speaker 6: Good satan is our pal.
Speaker 5: Y y you're.
Speaker 7: Chanting.
Speaker 6: Hey once they get in, here it's.
Speaker 2: Overpell they're reading a book Called The theory And practice
Speaker 2: Of demonology By Julian. Carswell AND i did a lot
Speaker 2: of looking THAT i didn't ever do before because we're
Speaker 2: doing this. Episode but Doctor Julian carswell was a character
Speaker 2: in The british horror Film night of The demon from
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty, seven which in which An american psychologist travels
Speaker 2: To england to investigate A satanic cult and it turned
Speaker 2: out that Doctor Julian carswell was the leader of the.
Speaker 2: Cult so it's one of those twist m Night shyamalan fucking,
Speaker 2: endings and that this is the book they're reading in you,
Speaker 2: know it's not a real, book but this is where
Speaker 2: a lot of the conspiracy theories come. From because he's
Speaker 2: down there and he's like they're gonna they're gonna tear
Speaker 2: your livers out and turn them into A satanic pat
Speaker 2: and all this. Stuff and he's, Like i'm not going
Speaker 2: to listen to. This i'm not going to chance. Chanting you're.
Speaker 2: Chanting once they get in, here it's all over.
Speaker 7: Pale.
Speaker 2: Like that's WHY i Say i'm art BECAUSE i have
Speaker 2: a tendency to go to tin with stuff like, this
Speaker 2: and that sounds like me talking to people about stuff
Speaker 2: like that are not really into. Conspiracies i'm, like, listen.
Speaker 4: They're coming for your.
Speaker 2: Kids they're coming from the calm, down calm, down like,
Speaker 2: fucked this is having, dinner.
Speaker 4: This is stacking up more and. MORE i think art
Speaker 4: is the, secret like actual practicing. Occultist he's not the like.
Speaker 2: He's gotta be because he's so into.
Speaker 4: It he's got the, book he knows all about. It
Speaker 4: you could, say, yeah that's conspiratorial level. Understanding he shoots
Speaker 4: the head off an, owl WHICH i think was. Intentional
Speaker 4: he was also trying to kill a crow or a,
Speaker 4: raven and the crow or a raven is symbolic of the
Speaker 4: eyes Of odin that have been able to view and see.
Speaker 4: Things so it's almost as if he's trying to take
Speaker 4: out the competing criminal syndicates within the, Area like he
Speaker 4: sees this level of occultism and, groups and he's got
Speaker 4: his own little control on the.
Speaker 2: Town that is, Interesting and he's got the scoop on
Speaker 2: all the murderers and, shit he's got his wife's out
Speaker 2: of town so he can do whatever he. Wants he's
Speaker 2: at home by. HIMSELF i, mean it is kind of,
Speaker 2: crazy but, yeah that's one of the best scenes in
Speaker 2: the entire movie in my, opinion because it's so it's
Speaker 2: just pure. Comedy and the next bit of NOTES i
Speaker 2: have unless you have anything else about that, scene, no that's.
Speaker 2: It So ray goes upstairs and he's WATCHING. Tv he's
Speaker 2: trying to like wind, down and he flips through three,
Speaker 2: channels specifically three channels all playing horror, films and a
Speaker 2: couple of them you will know what they are right
Speaker 2: off the. Bat at LEAST i. Did The exorsus nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy three And The Chainsaw Massacre part two easily. Identifiable
Speaker 2: but the first movie showing the ritual murder of a
Speaker 2: woman behind a bonfire is not as easily, recognizable and
Speaker 2: it actually comes from a horror film Called race with
Speaker 2: The devil from nineteen seventy, five in which motorists accidentally
Speaker 2: witnessed a satanic ritual and have to fight for their.
Speaker 2: Lives so what do you think about? That and like
Speaker 2: the whole dream, Sequence, well.
Speaker 4: It's a bit on the nose that all three of
Speaker 4: those shows are on primetime television at the same exact, time, Right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: yeah it leads into the dream sequence of our main,
Speaker 4: character and each of those elements appear in his. Nightmare
Speaker 4: so we start off with he's going down the stairs
Speaker 4: and the chainsaw comes through the. Wall he tries to escape,
Speaker 4: it and he ends up on this, barbecue which is
Speaker 4: almost like the sacrifice scene from the first.
Speaker 3: Film.
Speaker 4: Yep and then we get skip the appearance of our
Speaker 4: serial killer and he comes. In, yeah it's almost foreboding
Speaker 4: of what's going to happen later in the. Film in
Speaker 4: a lot of ways that we know that it gives
Speaker 4: us a real glimpse into the, colpex who they, are
Speaker 4: and maybe the satanic kind of background behind them and
Speaker 4: their practices as a.
Speaker 2: People, yeah and if you notice in the dream, sequence
Speaker 2: everything is, Blue LIKE i was, saying very interesting to
Speaker 2: me how they use colors in certain. Ways everything's blue
Speaker 2: in the dream sequence and he wakes up to Mister.
Speaker 2: Rogers he.
Speaker 4: Does, ironically he later plays Mister rogers's, correct it's.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: That's a beautiful. Day in twenty.
Speaker 4: Nineteen he would later go to Play Fred. Rogers, tom.
Speaker 2: That's, INTERESTING i forgot about. THAT i forgot about. THAT
Speaker 2: i mean his pedo ass of course he would volunteer
Speaker 2: to play anything that's connected to having children. Around but just.
Speaker 4: Very ironic because do you know What Tom hanks was
Speaker 4: adamant against being in this. Film what he Fought dante
Speaker 4: on this every single way. Could he did not want
Speaker 4: to play a. Father he didn't want to be around.
Speaker 2: Kids why oh why? Duh but, yeah that's.
Speaker 4: Interesting didn't want to be a, father and according to
Speaker 4: the mainstream, approaches he didn't want it to impact his
Speaker 4: career where he was typecast as a father for the
Speaker 4: rest of his. Life but he went From big where
Speaker 4: you're surrounded by, children went Into The birds where he
Speaker 4: didn't want to.
Speaker 3: Be surrounded by.
Speaker 4: Kids that almost sounds like someone who has an, addiction
Speaker 4: and first, off In big was made a year before,
Speaker 4: this he was surrounded by it and had the addiction
Speaker 4: of something allegedly then moved. On he was almost had
Speaker 4: that like where addicts. Go, no, NO i can go on
Speaker 4: the straight. NARROW i just have to distance myself from.
Speaker 4: IT i can't be around.
Speaker 2: It like the alcoholic that doesn't want to take one more.
Speaker 4: Drink, yeah where the day before they're on the biggest
Speaker 4: bend through of the life and the next day they
Speaker 4: wake up and they start pouring the rest of the
Speaker 4: alcohol down the. Drain it's almost like he was flipped
Speaker 4: on a.
Speaker 2: Script wait TILL i tell my, sister because even while
Speaker 2: we were watching, this she was, Like, JULIE i don't
Speaker 2: want to believe that he was doing stuff to. Kids
Speaker 2: AND i, SAID i, Know, sis but it's this is
Speaker 2: the world we live. In this is the. Reality Now
Speaker 2: i'm going to tell her that shit really going to fucking.
Speaker 2: Blow it's going to blow the tits off her chest
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i did not know. THAT i did not know.
Speaker 2: That but he still went on to do stuff around,
Speaker 2: kids obviously because he just went full line into it
Speaker 2: because he wanted to Become Tom. Hanks you.
Speaker 4: Know. Yeah, well and this is this is where we
Speaker 4: get into the really, deep seedy side of. Things Cory
Speaker 4: feldman has publicly come out multiple times in interviews saying
Speaker 4: that there's a pedophile problem In hollywood and both he
Speaker 4: And Corey haim were victims of the abuse on set
Speaker 4: by directors and prominent. Actors he's never come out and
Speaker 4: publicly named, them but it's, very very telling That Corey
Speaker 4: feldman would go into this one of his last big
Speaker 4: name films and then.
Speaker 3: Disappear it's like this was one of.
Speaker 4: His last, films so much so that there's talk between
Speaker 4: what was going on behind the. Scenes Carrie fisher was
Speaker 4: one of his confidants and spoke to this guy every
Speaker 4: day just to keep him on the straight and narrow
Speaker 4: to finish the film because he was losing his. Mind
Speaker 4: he was about to completely lose, himself and.
Speaker 3: She kept him on.
Speaker 4: Set so was there something on set around him that
Speaker 4: was a previous you, know abuser Alleged.
Speaker 2: Fuck have you seen him? Recently? Drew, yeah he thinks
Speaker 2: he's he's like the Generic Michael. Jackson he's like the
Speaker 2: fucking he's like fucking doing all this shit like Woll and.
Speaker 4: Stuff because he was friends With Michael. Jackson guess who
Speaker 4: visited the Set michael during the. Film Michael jackson and.
Speaker 4: Bubbles The monkey was often on set on The.
Speaker 2: Burbs, yep, really you GOT mj And Tom hanks all on?
Speaker 4: SET whoa With Corey, fellman the guy who was supposedly
Speaker 4: molested By hollywood.
Speaker 2: Elites, dude he's come off as. Rocker he's like out
Speaker 2: of his fucking. Medula he is totally boners bonkers in
Speaker 2: his LITTLE mj. Act like nobody's buying. It, corey you
Speaker 2: don't fucking look Like michael when you do that. Shit
Speaker 2: you look like you have Fucking. Parkinson's he looks more
Speaker 2: Like MICHAEL. J fox Than Michael.
Speaker 4: Jackson, okay he looks like.
Speaker 2: Serious but this is the world we live, in and
Speaker 2: everybody's blowing smoke up his, ass like good, Job. Corey
Speaker 2: LIKE i get. It he's fucked. Up he's been through
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff in his. Life but it doesn't
Speaker 2: mean he's he's a great musician or. ANYTHING i feel
Speaker 2: sorry for him WHEN i see, him like it hurts
Speaker 2: my heart because he's so screwed.
Speaker 3: UP i feel really sorry for the.
Speaker 4: Guy because he came out roughly the same time as
Speaker 4: the May too. Movement everyone believed the victims of May.
Speaker 4: Too he came Out Drew.
Speaker 2: Drew your thing is cut. Out your sound is cut. Out,
Speaker 2: yep it's. MUTED i can't hear. Yet fuck oh go
Speaker 2: back back, back go, ahead.
Speaker 3: That's, right why we'll do.
Speaker 4: So the interesting thing is That corey came out during
Speaker 4: the Me.
Speaker 3: Too movement with his.
Speaker 4: Allegations all the, attention all the belief went to the
Speaker 4: victims of me, too with prominent, businessmen, actors, directors they
Speaker 4: were all. Believed Corey felman comes out with groundbreaking allegations
Speaker 4: and things that should be, investigated swept under the, rug
Speaker 4: and he started.
Speaker 2: Some of the worst, dude like the stuff about The
Speaker 2: crisco and all the very very intense. Abuse so and
Speaker 2: the poor, Guy i'm telling, you it's just it's. Sad it's.
Speaker 2: Sad but And corey ham, TOO i mean that shit
Speaker 2: is just the worst Shit i've ever, heard, well not ever,
Speaker 2: heard but it's it's up. THERE i, mean it's really.
Speaker 2: BAD i just can't WHEN i go back and watch these. Movies.
Speaker 2: THOUGH i don't know if you do, this but almost
Speaker 2: just IF i want to watch the, MOVIE i JUST
Speaker 2: i can't think about.
Speaker 4: It, no you have to like almost put yourself into
Speaker 4: a state of just, watching like a vegetative.
Speaker 2: Sites, yeah joy like even WHEN i watch The goonies and.
Speaker 2: STUFF i love The Truffle, SHUFFLE i LOVE i love
Speaker 2: all those. Movies you, know they're just it's just core
Speaker 2: memories for me growing up watching that. Ship and even
Speaker 2: the next THING i have in my notes is one
Speaker 2: of the funnier lines after the dream sequence that they
Speaker 2: Have rumsfield And art come over to the house like their,
Speaker 2: kids asking you think about and.
Speaker 4: Play come, on we gotta, Plan come, on we.
Speaker 7: Got sorry, boys my husband's not feeling. Well he has
Speaker 7: to stay in his.
Speaker 3: Room oh come, on, Please, carol let them come.
Speaker 4: Out come.
Speaker 8: On he can't come out until he resembles the man
Speaker 8: That i'm.
Speaker 3: Married, carol we don't have that kind of. Time please
Speaker 3: let him come.
Speaker 4: On come.
Speaker 7: ON i think THAT i have given you my, answer And.
Speaker 2: Carol, goes he can't come out until he resembles the
Speaker 2: MAN i, married And art, Goes, carol we don't have
Speaker 2: that kind of.
Speaker 4: Time and even does the thing where he kicks the
Speaker 4: ground he's a.
Speaker 2: Friend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh and.
Speaker 2: This is WHERE i don't know if you have anything after,
Speaker 2: that But art slips, THIS i know what you did
Speaker 2: last summer note under the door.
Speaker 3: And, yeah he's like, yeah he.
Speaker 4: Says he comes over and he tells him's, LIKE i
Speaker 4: slipped a note under the, door when in the sequence
Speaker 4: he actually slipped it through the mail. Slot could just
Speaker 4: be a saying. Anyway he's out there talking and as
Speaker 4: they're having this argument about, like you, know you're being too,
Speaker 4: conspiratorialist nothing to. IT i just want to relax and
Speaker 4: have some beers on my time, off the dog has a,
Speaker 4: femur a human, famer in his mouth and he's running
Speaker 4: up and they're throwing it the whole. Time they touched
Speaker 4: like three or four times during the, sequence and he,
Speaker 4: goes do you what this?
Speaker 3: Is it's a? Bone why throws it? Again, no this
Speaker 3: is a.
Speaker 4: Femur, yeah you, know intray to, biology this is a human.
Speaker 5: Femur do you know what this?
Speaker 8: Is it's a.
Speaker 5: Bone it's a. Femur it's a femur.
Speaker 6: BONE a femur just happens to be a human thigh.
Speaker 5: Bone, Right, wait how do you know that?
Speaker 6: Biology one on, ONE i, mean look at the size
Speaker 6: of this.
Speaker 7: THING i think this came up a chicken or.
Speaker 5: Something where the hell The vince get? This he dug
Speaker 5: it up from underneath the fence and.
Speaker 2: He looks the. Rain he, goes you think this came
Speaker 2: off a chicken or.
Speaker 3: Something it came off a.
Speaker 4: Chicken then and then they notice someone's walking around in
Speaker 4: the backyard of the klopex and we see the shadowy
Speaker 4: figure walk past the, slats and then the piece of
Speaker 4: paper gets thrown, over and we naturally know that's the. Note,
Speaker 4: again he, goes, oh what is That and he, goes,
Speaker 4: oh could just be a bit of rubbish.
Speaker 3: Receipt maybe.
Speaker 4: It's my, note and he freaks out and he's cracking.
Speaker 4: It and this is the point where the wives really take.
Speaker 4: Over they try to be the common sense approach to
Speaker 4: this and they try to stomp it.
Speaker 1: Out scene, Everything.
Speaker 4: This whole scene foreshadows what's about to, Happen so when
Speaker 4: the dog finds the, femur we get the great. Foreshadowing
Speaker 4: after they find, It carol, says before anyone falls off
Speaker 4: a roof or sets themselves on, fire let me put
Speaker 4: an end to this right. Now later on the, Film
Speaker 4: rumsfeld falls off a roof And ray sets himself on
Speaker 4: fire with the.
Speaker 2: Explosion, yep, yep, yep, yep one, hundred one hundred and
Speaker 2: so my next bit notes is when they go over
Speaker 2: to the, HOUSE i found two, things and one of
Speaker 2: THEM i found from an article about the. Movie, actually
Speaker 2: it said that filmmakers inserted several visual clues that things
Speaker 2: aren't what they, appear and when they first get to
Speaker 2: The clopex house there's a shadow of a noose on
Speaker 2: the wall. One and then it also said it's easy
Speaker 2: to miss if you're not looking for, it but When
Speaker 2: reuben walks past the front, door the window frame forms
Speaker 2: a large backlet inverted, cross which of course is the
Speaker 2: Anti christianity symbol in pop. Culture so those were two
Speaker 2: THINGS i don't know about, You. Drew IF i wouldn't
Speaker 2: have read that article about, IT i FUCKING i don't
Speaker 2: know IF i would have seen that shit in the.
Speaker 4: Movie BUT i didn't catch.
Speaker 2: The other, one the inverted.
Speaker 4: Cross did not catch that.
Speaker 2: One if you go back and watch, it you'll see
Speaker 2: it and it's, like, damn it's like right, There but
Speaker 2: of course everything is. Right it's right in plain, sight
Speaker 2: and you're just not looking for. It before they get
Speaker 2: into the, house, though. Fucking another pure comedy moment is
Speaker 2: When rumsfield steps through the porch and he's, like go, there,
Speaker 2: goes the goddamn, Brownies brownie's flying. Everywhere she picks them.
Speaker 2: Up they got fucking leaves and shit on. Them, yeah
Speaker 2: something for the old sweet.
Speaker 4: Tooth and you, say this house, inside it hasn't changed
Speaker 4: since it's been. Built, no it looks like dark.
Speaker 2: Shadows, right it looks Like barnabas calling shit in, there which.
Speaker 4: Leads you to think where the original people own the
Speaker 4: house shady and not of the up and up, themselves
Speaker 4: because nothing has changed in this. House the door, knocker
Speaker 4: a lot of the artwork that we see in the
Speaker 4: houses of the original, household they haven't really changed. Anything,
Speaker 4: no this.
Speaker 2: Brings up a good point because we know later on
Speaker 2: that they murdered The. Naps but when in this moment
Speaker 2: is pure comedy as, well when he, goes oh that's
Speaker 2: a pretty.
Speaker 5: Girl, oh pretty girl under?
Speaker 7: Yours, no it's game with the, frame game with the, Frame, yes.
Speaker 2: Because it came with the. Frame is that did it
Speaker 2: really come with the? Frame or is that like the,
Speaker 2: naps like family photos and shit that they just never
Speaker 2: like took. Down?
Speaker 4: Yeah is it something that they like take as a
Speaker 4: trophy when they've killed?
Speaker 2: People because, right he said it came with the, frame
Speaker 2: but we don't know. That we don't know that it
Speaker 2: game with the. Frame that could be like somebody else's
Speaker 2: whole family pictures in. THERE i mean they murdered the
Speaker 2: naps and just kind of moved.
Speaker 5: In.
Speaker 4: Yeah did you notice when the doctor was coming up
Speaker 4: from the basement that his shadow actually defied the laws of?
Speaker 5: Physics?
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah for, sure because he's like a.
Speaker 4: Midget, yeah but at the actually where the light source
Speaker 4: was coming, from it looked as if the shadow was
Speaker 4: moving out from the wall towards the. People it's kind
Speaker 4: of going up the, stairs so it's almost like there's
Speaker 4: a foreshadowing of something coming before. Him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, YEAH i don't really have a lot else of
Speaker 2: notes from when they're in the house other than.
Speaker 3: Sardines and press.
Speaker 2: Gardine, dude the sardine.
Speaker 7: Sodin so how are you Enjoying Hinckley? Hills we just love.
Speaker 2: It he's like eating it with that little tiny, pretzel
Speaker 2: AND i just this is WHY i, say, LIKE i,
Speaker 2: CAN'T i can't cancel these movies BECAUSE i used to
Speaker 2: laugh so HARD i fucking needed a bladdersling after watching
Speaker 2: this movie because when he puts that little fucking sardine
Speaker 2: on the pretzel and can choose it. UP i, mean just, hilarious,
Speaker 2: hilarious and the candles on the.
Speaker 4: TABLE i thought it would be romantic for the.
Speaker 3: Ladies, yeah.
Speaker 5: Painting and.
Speaker 2: Shit, yeah, no it's just there's too. Much there's too.
Speaker 2: Much it's just so. Funny did you have any other
Speaker 2: notes though from the when they the first, Visit so.
Speaker 4: Just on The rumsfeld playing with the painting as a
Speaker 4: painting of like an open, surgery And rumsfeld's trying to
Speaker 4: figure out which orientation it. Goes And rumsfeld keeps putting
Speaker 4: it from the patient's, perspective so the orientation of view
Speaker 4: or the patient looking. Up and when the doctor comes
Speaker 4: along later to reseat, it he sets it to his
Speaker 4: perspective he's doing the surgery mm. Hmm and he makes
Speaker 4: it that he's been painting down in the basement and
Speaker 4: that's what the red was on his. Hands it was
Speaker 4: paint right right.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah AND i paused it on a couple of
Speaker 2: different scenes when he's flipping it BECAUSE i was, like
Speaker 2: what what it really is? It and if you flip
Speaker 2: it in a certain way you can kind of tell
Speaker 2: like it's an open heart surgery or. Whatever BUT i
Speaker 2: always thought that that part of the Kitchen Cloe peck
Speaker 2: kitchen scene was kind of interesting because the doctor guy
Speaker 2: is such a pompous, ass and you can tell they're
Speaker 2: fucking hiding. Something he's the only one that's openly social and,
Speaker 2: shit and those are always the ones that are the
Speaker 2: most fucked, Up like the other two are visibly fucked.
Speaker 2: Up hans looks like he just came out of a concentration,
Speaker 2: camp fucking The but the doctor, guy he's just so,
Speaker 2: debonair and you, know it's, like what are you really up,
Speaker 2: to Doctor.
Speaker 4: Kloepeck and this is where he gets into The we
Speaker 4: start to have a seeding of doubt that maybe the
Speaker 4: wife's are right all. Along there's nothing about these people
Speaker 4: that they're just being. Conspiratorial and he talks it's about
Speaker 4: they've had to move multiple, times and you, know because
Speaker 4: of the, university and they've just moved into the town
Speaker 4: and they haven't had a chance to meet with, people
Speaker 4: blah blah. Blah the whole, time we have A vietnam
Speaker 4: vet just drilling them for. Information is that A slavic?
Speaker 3: Name? No very, Idly, no It's. Slavic and he's asking all.
Speaker 4: These niggling little, questions hoping that they'll slip, up and they.
Speaker 4: Don't and he gets to the point where he, says,
Speaker 4: well we're going to be out of the house. Tomorrow
Speaker 4: we've got to go to the university about possibly moving.
Speaker 4: Again and their eyes kind of prick, up like, awesome
Speaker 4: they're going to be out of the. House that's our
Speaker 4: window for. Opportunity they leave the house and he's then
Speaker 4: the wives, like, see you boys were just going.
Speaker 3: Crazy is nothing to?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 4: Okay and the men go down into the man cave
Speaker 4: and they're having a beer and he's.
Speaker 3: Like are you siding with the? Girls?
Speaker 4: Now how are you beginning to Chick show us your
Speaker 4: balls you have balls or? Not And Tom hanks starts
Speaker 4: to rifle around in his very short. Shorts, well, man
Speaker 4: we'll just. Kidding you don't need to show. Us he
Speaker 4: pulls out the two pay of the neighbor who's, disappeared
Speaker 4: the two pay that was originally seen in the. House
Speaker 4: so we now get the idea that The clopex have
Speaker 4: gone into the house they've taken the two. Pays so
Speaker 4: the men are running with the idea that they've Killed.
Speaker 4: Walter they've taken the two pay as like a.
Speaker 3: Souvenir. Mmmm and they get to.
Speaker 4: The grand plan of they're out tomorrow at the university all.
Speaker 4: Day that's when we're going in that. Backyard i'm scaling
Speaker 4: that fence.
Speaker 2: And another there's another digging scene too that like kind
Speaker 2: of adds to the like what the fuck are they digging?
Speaker 2: For it never really, says all the bones in the,
Speaker 2: trunk what the fuck were they.
Speaker 4: Digging in the middle of the not During Rhine star.
Speaker 2: His fuck and, yeah just digging and. Shit and so
Speaker 2: they come up with this master Plan they're gonna break
Speaker 2: into the house while they're, out and Fucking art has
Speaker 2: to cut this electrical. Line oh my, god this is
Speaker 2: WHY i Say I'm, art because that's some SHIT i would.
Speaker 2: Do fucking electrocute myself up and down the fucking. Neighborhood
Speaker 2: his fucking fingernails are, black the fillings in his teether
Speaker 2: boiling lava. Hot he goes to like get something out
Speaker 2: of his wallet later all of his freaking credit cards and.
Speaker 4: MELT i, mean.
Speaker 2: It's, just oh, god it's so. Funny and Like Tom
Speaker 2: hanks is totally in because like he thinks they Killed.
Speaker 2: Walter so when they break in the. House they're down
Speaker 2: in the basement freaking shoveling down to like the sewer
Speaker 2: lines and, shit and they don't find. Anything they find
Speaker 2: nothing in the.
Speaker 4: House this is the confusing thing About art. Again he
Speaker 4: likes to wear costumes or. Disguises he dresses up in
Speaker 4: golf clothes to sell the, Idea, oh we're gonna go
Speaker 4: play some golf.
Speaker 3: Later do you think she bought?
Speaker 4: It then in this scene he's wearing an electrical company
Speaker 4: shirt and, Overalls.
Speaker 3: Like does he actually work for the electrical company or
Speaker 3: is that.
Speaker 4: Another disguise that guy, has because he's starting to become very.
Speaker 2: Suspicious, literally he's literally like have you ever Watched Pineapple? Express,
Speaker 2: yeah he's like the guy who serves. People he's got
Speaker 2: all these costumes and, shit he's a, doctor He's but
Speaker 2: it just makes you, wonder, Like, art what do you?
Speaker 2: Do what do you?
Speaker 4: Do?
Speaker 2: Art please doesn't mention it at all in the Shod,
Speaker 2: no he just has costumes on, costumes just hidden in his.
Speaker 4: House, so as you, said they they test the fence
Speaker 4: security alarm doesn't go, Off they've cut the power ends,
Speaker 4: up cutting the power for the entire, street maybe even
Speaker 4: half the. Town they scale the fence and we get
Speaker 4: this time lapse where there's no, holes and sudden there's
Speaker 4: holes all over the backyard And art's being extremely lazy
Speaker 4: laying in one of the.
Speaker 3: Holes he's, like how are you going to find? Anything?
Speaker 3: IS i don't.
Speaker 4: Know maybe you could start digging your own. Hole he's, like,
Speaker 4: oh you, know But i've done this And i've done,
Speaker 4: that and you, KNOW i fell out of the of
Speaker 4: the power. Pole my fingers, hurt blah blah. Blah maybe
Speaker 4: we should check the.
Speaker 3: Basement and this is where they go.
Speaker 4: In and they go down to the basement and the
Speaker 4: furnace is very prominent in this. Scene the furnace has
Speaker 4: the exact same symbol of a demonic.
Speaker 2: Entity on it from the door knocker.
Speaker 4: From the door, knocker the exact same. One so this
Speaker 4: was already in the. House they haven't brought this with.
Speaker 4: Them they did make some adjustments to, it as we
Speaker 4: see with the rigged up yacht batteries and the furnace
Speaker 4: much higher and higher than it should. Be but it
Speaker 4: has the entity's name on. It it says on the
Speaker 4: top of it Ata a A atar was the god
Speaker 4: of fire and the element itself son of A houra.
Speaker 4: Master he's depicted as a flame and follows Behind mithtress's
Speaker 4: chariot into. Battle fire was considered the presence Of ata
Speaker 4: himself in rituals and after the rise of Zoo, astrianism
Speaker 4: and is present in the Horor mazda.
Speaker 5: Worship so this is like.
Speaker 4: An Ancient iranian, god right fuck day fied the god
Speaker 4: of firesonification of flame? Itself what do we see leap
Speaker 4: out of this? Furnace huge amounts of?
Speaker 2: Flame, dude drew you fucking crushed. THAT i didn't even worst.
Speaker 4: That the worst part is it says something underneath it
Speaker 4: in a script and it says something something cometh and
Speaker 4: IT'S i can't make it the but it's atar something something.
Speaker 2: Cometh, fuck, dude that is. Intense that is. Intense and
Speaker 2: they got it on the door knocker. Too so it's
Speaker 2: like when you come in the, house you're, like what
Speaker 2: are you? Like, like Like Corey feldman said in The,
Speaker 2: sentinel like they opened up a portal into hell in
Speaker 2: the guy's apartment or. Whatever it's the same. Thing when
Speaker 2: you walk into the, house you're walking into some type
Speaker 2: of fucking god knows. What BUT i did not see
Speaker 2: that on the. Furnace great, catch ten out of, ten great.
Speaker 3: Catch and this is where we break.
Speaker 4: Into they figure out the furnace burns way too, hot
Speaker 4: and they make the connection with you, know furnaces that
Speaker 4: burn this, hot they burn. Bodies and he's, like they've
Speaker 4: burned the bodies and they've buried them, somewhere and they
Speaker 4: start digging within the basement. Itself they find that the
Speaker 4: soil is, loose so they start. Digging and during this
Speaker 4: time we see what's happened. Outside it's become dark now
Speaker 4: and the kids are out there, watching drinking, along laughing
Speaker 4: at at Our vietnam about falling off the, roof and
Speaker 4: he's going off all those great little comedy. Tropes the
Speaker 4: guy's just sitting on a roof with a. FIREARM i
Speaker 4: don't know if that's just An american, thing but be
Speaker 4: a little bit, concerned, right which it never says what he.
Speaker 4: Was it never says he's, rank but he's wearing a
Speaker 4: command over a so you would assume that he's Special
Speaker 4: forces to some. Degree and he's like the. Spotter he's
Speaker 4: there with the radiator special.
Speaker 2: He does so much stupid.
Speaker 4: Shit he just need a special. Helmet he's sitting there
Speaker 4: and he's. Watching he's the lookout and he communicates To
Speaker 4: art that you, know watch out there. Coming and while
Speaker 4: this is going, on we've still Got tom digging a.
Speaker 3: Hole in the.
Speaker 4: Basement he's covering the radio with. Mud he's digging that
Speaker 4: far and he's, like we've found, that we found. Something
Speaker 4: we've hit. It and he goes back in and he
Speaker 4: realized he's hit a. Gas, Mate he's like hit a
Speaker 4: Gas maine run just bailing like little kids, again, like oh,
Speaker 4: no we've set the house on. Fire light runs out
Speaker 4: saying there's a gast's going to. Explode and as soon
Speaker 4: as he says that house explodes behind, him and we
Speaker 4: assume he doesn't.
Speaker 2: Bother to check On.
Speaker 4: Ray, fine he was on his way out. Too ray's
Speaker 4: still within the building and the neighbors are there with
Speaker 4: the police now because they've seen that the house is
Speaker 4: being interrupted as they've called the police's fire emt. Ambulance
Speaker 4: all this stuff going on and we think raised it explosions,
Speaker 4: happen the house has, collapsed is on. Fire Then ray
Speaker 4: slowly walks. Out he's staggering. Along his clothes are all,
Speaker 4: torn he's. Burnt he comes out the house collapses behind.
Speaker 4: Him just as he walks, out his eye is. Swollen one.
Speaker 4: Eye he literally has one. Eye so he walks out, injured.
Speaker 4: Burnt he has the one eye, swollen that one eye.
Speaker 4: Symbolism just after this scene we see the EMT's have got.
Speaker 4: Too they banded him. Up they splint his pinky. Finger
Speaker 4: they splint it in such a way that when he
Speaker 4: rants later on towards art that you know where the
Speaker 4: bad guys, where the monsters where the bad, people he's
Speaker 4: pointing at him like, this he's pointing at him using
Speaker 4: The masonic symbol for the. Horns shut, UP i think
Speaker 4: not only telling, you he's telling you where the bad
Speaker 4: guys wear the, monsters and he's actually showing it in
Speaker 4: symbolism and the. Horns he's doing the. Horns he's pointing
Speaker 4: at him like, that you're the monster were the.
Speaker 2: Monsters it's funny you bring that up because in my
Speaker 2: NOTES i have that art when they are. Fighting he
Speaker 2: bites that finger. Too he does like they make it
Speaker 2: a point to draw your attention to that hand into
Speaker 2: like the broke, finger and, like so, YEAH i mean
Speaker 2: THAT i didn't even notice. That that's. Crazy with all
Speaker 2: the other stuff that they've put in the. Movie there's
Speaker 2: no way that's that's an.
Speaker 4: Accident now this this becomes even more. Interesting don't bite
Speaker 4: the hand that feeds. You if is really an esoteric,
Speaker 4: Person he's bitten the symbol of the devil's.
Speaker 3: Horns.
Speaker 4: Right what happens To art's house later on in this?
Speaker 4: Sequence fuck, Ambulance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, DAMN i didn't even think about. That. FUCK
Speaker 2: i mean there are some really funny parts of this
Speaker 2: end scene, too because he's, Like i've been blown, up
Speaker 2: and he Fucking.
Speaker 8: I've been blown.
Speaker 6: Up to take it to the, sick.
Speaker 8: Honey i'll just find out what hospital they're taking it
Speaker 8: to and Then i'll.
Speaker 2: Follow right.
Speaker 7: Along, okay, okay, honey.
Speaker 2: And You fuckingtcher fucking throws. It, Yeah and this is
Speaker 2: where we see for the first time doctor Clopex ass
Speaker 2: is a murdering psychopath and he's got some unidentified green
Speaker 2: liquid and it's, ayringe and he's, LIKE i know you
Speaker 2: saw my. SKULLS i know you, did and he's like
Speaker 2: trying to Get Tom hanks and fucking it is, like,
Speaker 2: hello how does it feel when people are trying to
Speaker 2: forcibly inject? You doesn't feel, nice does?
Speaker 5: It?
Speaker 2: Asshole he was on the fucking. Vaccine fucking you know
Speaker 2: What i'm talking, About so it's, like fuck.
Speaker 4: You the dialogue before this is. Hilarious he's laying on
Speaker 4: the beg And i'm so, sorry Doctor. Clopec WHEN i
Speaker 4: get out of, Jail i'm gonna help you re build your.
Speaker 3: House i've got to set the. Tools my wife's my
Speaker 3: wife's father gave them to.
Speaker 4: ME i love that.
Speaker 2: Far it's just pure comedy and so oh.
Speaker 4: Good it's funny though that the liquid is, grain. Right
Speaker 4: people always associate red with being an evil. Color red's
Speaker 4: really a symbol of, passion, anger, ferocity that type of.
Speaker 4: Thing grain is really.
Speaker 3: The symbol of.
Speaker 4: Evil, yeah he's got a grain syringe. Drot and green
Speaker 4: is associated with lucifer as, well, chrisipharious the glowing.
Speaker 3: Substance and this looks quite.
Speaker 2: Glowing and that's the thing, too IS i mentioned that
Speaker 2: in The John benet episode because there is so much
Speaker 2: green that surrounds things about that case And John benet.
Speaker 2: Herself so green is actually where people should be, looking not,
Speaker 2: red not even, BLUE i, mean but green especially is
Speaker 2: the color to look.
Speaker 5: For.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well and grain is the combination of two prime,
Speaker 4: colors blue and, yellow which in themselves we say blue
Speaker 4: and yellow. Symbolism, ever everyone points At, ukraine everyone points
Speaker 4: out the blue and yellow symbolism DURING, Covid but it's
Speaker 4: a combination of the, two which is the, green which,
Speaker 4: ironically In australia all of OUR covid vaccine advertising was on.
Speaker 2: Green it was, Amazing that's What i'm talking. About and
Speaker 2: LIKE i put down in my notes about like the
Speaker 2: forced injection and, shit because out of all the ways
Speaker 2: that you could kill, someone he had literally all those
Speaker 2: bodies burnt up in his basement and. Shit but while
Speaker 2: all of a sudden is he changing in his and
Speaker 2: now he's injecting, people you, Know like it just was so,
Speaker 2: interesting the forced injection. Thing And Tom hanks later in
Speaker 2: life is like trying to forcibly inject, like, Oh I'm Tom,
Speaker 2: hanks AND i improved this. Message fuck you fucking Doctor,
Speaker 2: klopek you fuck her like that that was so foreshadowing
Speaker 2: of real life, too you know kind. Of and and
Speaker 2: so they get in a scuffle Whatever hans drives Through
Speaker 2: art's house and you, know they roll out of the
Speaker 2: back of the. Ambulance the they hit the back of
Speaker 2: Doctor clopex car and the trunk flies open and all
Speaker 2: the skulls are in. There do you notice how the
Speaker 2: black guy at the end of the movie pronounces his,
Speaker 2: name Doctor. Klopik this is.
Speaker 3: Your, Vehicle Doctor.
Speaker 2: Clappick he's, like are these your, Skulls Doctor, Kloppik.
Speaker 3: And he's just, like, oh maybe.
Speaker 2: Maybe but BEFORE i say anything, ELSE i just have
Speaker 2: to get this one last part out and Then i'll
Speaker 2: let you. Go. Ham the funniest part of that whole
Speaker 2: end scene is When hans comes out of the. Ambulance,
Speaker 2: HEY i know.
Speaker 5: You where are you?
Speaker 2: Going?
Speaker 5: Gotcha? Yeah don't you make a, Move.
Speaker 8: SONNY i was eighteen months in the bush AND i
Speaker 8: could snap your neck in a.
Speaker 2: Heartbeat And Fucking rumsfield is, like Hey. Pinocchio. Yeah hilarious
Speaker 2: and also foreshadowing of real, life seeing as How Tom
Speaker 2: hanks would go on to Play geppetto In.
Speaker 3: Fucking pinocchio and the whole story is about. Pedophilia.
Speaker 2: Boom so we got in just the last. Scene we Got,
Speaker 2: pinocchio we got forced, Injections we have fucking devil, Horns
Speaker 2: like is? THERE i probably am even forgetting some, shit
Speaker 2: but like that's a lot this in the last couple of.
Speaker 3: Scenes it's a huge.
Speaker 4: Amount it's ridiculous how much you notice host watching something
Speaker 4: as a kid and enjoying it for what it. Was
Speaker 4: these things pop, out and like you said earlier on
Speaker 4: in this, episode you have to train yourself when watching
Speaker 4: films now not to look for this. Stuff but when
Speaker 4: you really zero, internet the stuff pops, out and it's not,
Speaker 4: reaching it's not grasping at. Straws it's very very evident
Speaker 4: when you see what they're, doing like the biting at the.
Speaker 4: Hand what happens when you bite the hand that feeds,
Speaker 4: you you're. Punished his house catches on, fire the two
Speaker 4: houses in the street that catch, fire The satanists who
Speaker 4: are killing, people an arts, house an art, house dabbling
Speaker 4: in the occult for.
Speaker 2: Sure now that you mention, it and all like this
Speaker 2: stuff he knew. About and Like i'm pretty sure the
Speaker 2: book they were reading was from, Art Like i'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure that was.
Speaker 3: Art it was his. BOOK m, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yep SO i, mean did.
Speaker 2: You have any other, notes like about the end part
Speaker 2: or did we pretty much crash? It we nailed.
Speaker 3: IT i think he nailed.
Speaker 4: It the only other thing THAT i came across was
Speaker 4: That Paulie, shaw a very Young Pauli, shaw was considered
Speaker 4: for the role Of, ricky but the, Director Joe, dante
Speaker 4: was not impressed with his. Audition more, so it Was
Speaker 4: Pauli shaw's mother who put the kibosh on. It Pauli shaw's,
Speaker 4: mother for people who don't, know used to run the comedy.
Speaker 3: Store the stand up place in Yeah.
Speaker 4: La she didn't want him getting involved In hollywood at
Speaker 4: a young. Age she wanted him to be older before
Speaker 4: he got Into. Hollywood, now a woman who's in the
Speaker 4: know with stand up comedy in that part of the,
Speaker 4: world why would you be so protective of your child
Speaker 4: if it was all copasetic and, Fine, well maybe she
Speaker 4: knew what was going on with kids on, sets especially
Speaker 4: she wanted him to be of, age right.
Speaker 2: RIGHT i, mean, look it's like we were seeing earlier
Speaker 2: With corey fucking not only you don't know what happens on,
Speaker 2: set like Obviously Tom, hainks But Michael jackson showing up
Speaker 2: about of, nowhere and then you know it's just do
Speaker 2: you think he's dead by the, way or you think
Speaker 2: you think that's that's a.
Speaker 4: Conspiracy the WHOLE q side of things where he's been
Speaker 4: executed via a military, tribune all that type of.
Speaker 2: Jazz Michael, JACKSON.
Speaker 4: I thought you're talking About Tom. HANKS i Think Michael
Speaker 4: jackson probably is.
Speaker 2: Dead you think he is?
Speaker 3: Dead, Okay, Yeah it all kind of ties.
Speaker 4: In there's this whole HUGE q conspiracy THAT mj somehow
Speaker 4: faked his own death and he was giving information to
Speaker 4: the white hats and that's how they Got Tom. Hanks
Speaker 4: And Tom hanks has been arrested and executed and someone
Speaker 4: else is an actor playing. Him he gets really into the.
Speaker 4: Weeds even for a conspiracy theorist like, me it becomes too.
Speaker 4: WILD i think it's probably more along the lines, of you,
Speaker 4: know allegedly a lot of this stuff has been going,
Speaker 4: on and there's so much power and wealth associated with
Speaker 4: just the name Of Tom hanks that these people can
Speaker 4: cover this stuff.
Speaker 5: Up they get away with.
Speaker 2: It for fucking. Sure and the thing IS i am
Speaker 2: a conspiracy, theorist of course one, percent but SOMETIMES i
Speaker 2: really do think people just, die like you, know a
Speaker 2: lot Of. Epstein don't get me, WRONG i think that
Speaker 2: motherfucker is probably still. Alive but Like Michael, jackson some
Speaker 2: of these other people it's fifty to fifty for. Some
Speaker 2: BUT i think he probably is dead AND i think
Speaker 2: he probably was touching, kids which is another thing that
Speaker 2: people are like split fence on. That Corey feldman said
Speaker 2: that nothing ever. Happened Well macaulay and fucking whatever whoever
Speaker 2: is saying that nothing ever. Happened there's like a gang
Speaker 2: of other children who are, like, YEAH i, know shit was,
Speaker 2: happening including his own. Sister LaToya jackson said he was touching.
Speaker 2: Kids SO i, mean it's, like what would she have
Speaker 2: to gain from coming out and saying.
Speaker 4: That you, KNOW i think this is the this is
Speaker 4: the danger that you see in these types of conversations
Speaker 4: with the way trauma works with sexual abuse of, children
Speaker 4: far more often than, not the traumatized end up becoming
Speaker 4: the predators in the. Future, yeah the trauma That i've gone,
Speaker 4: on they pill portrayed that tope of trauma on other.
Speaker 4: People and you, know if these people have grown up
Speaker 4: in that kind of a system where it's accepted within
Speaker 4: The hollywood culture that you, know you have to go
Speaker 4: on the casting couchs regardless of whether you're an eighteen
Speaker 4: year old girl or a twelve year old. Boy you're
Speaker 4: on the casting couch with these people and they don't.
Speaker 3: Care you grow.
Speaker 4: Up in that system of where you either think it's
Speaker 4: acceptable or you start perpetrating that trauma on other. People
Speaker 4: AND i think that's why you see a lot of
Speaker 4: these people collapse within, themselves their career goes to shit
Speaker 4: because you, know their reality finally dawns on. THEM i
Speaker 4: was a, VICTIM i was. Abused these things have happened to,
Speaker 4: me and no one. Cares and we see. THAT i,
Speaker 4: know it.
Speaker 2: Sucks it, sucks and like for the kids out there
Speaker 2: that are like coming out and saying like this happened to,
Speaker 2: me and like these are the, things and for people
Speaker 2: to just turn a blind, eye like imagine if it
Speaker 2: was your. Kid i've been covering a lot of this
Speaker 2: stuff in my new, show like for The cult Of,
Speaker 2: conspiracy about like things that have happened to. Kids nobody
Speaker 2: will ever know their, name nobody will ever know their,
Speaker 2: story nobody cares to look into.
Speaker 4: This kind of.
Speaker 2: Stuff it's just really sad that this is the world
Speaker 2: we live.
Speaker 4: In, yeah, well when you've got big money and big
Speaker 4: personalities running the, show they are they're going to cover it.
Speaker 4: Up and, really people talk about. It it just doesn't
Speaker 4: gain the traction like The Me too movement WHICH i
Speaker 4: referred to, before that was allowed to gain traction because
Speaker 4: it was a great distraction from a lot of The
Speaker 4: Morena fairies evilshit that was going.
Speaker 3: On people will.
Speaker 4: Recognize it's downright atrocious and disgusting that men in power
Speaker 4: will exploit that get sexual favors from women who want
Speaker 4: to progress their. Careers that's, terrible don't get me. Wrong
Speaker 4: that's far far more evil when children, involved and that
Speaker 4: just seems to be skimmed. OVER i.
Speaker 2: Know it's just fucking gut, wrenching and it's like we
Speaker 2: were seeing at the very beginning of the Episode Tom,
Speaker 2: Hanks america's dad quote, Unquote AND i.
Speaker 4: Mean.
Speaker 2: There are movies Like The Money Pit The, burbs And
Speaker 2: i'll always have a soft spot for them and watch,
Speaker 2: them but it JUST i don't. Know Even, CASTAWAY i
Speaker 2: used to watch a lot because it's a really good,
Speaker 2: movie AND i haven't seen him do a lot, recently
Speaker 2: If i'm just being, Honest AND i think that's where
Speaker 2: a lot of the conspiracy theories are coming. From alhw
Speaker 2: he's dead and there's like an actor playing him or.
Speaker 2: Whatever maybe he's just, like you, know when you get
Speaker 2: to a certain point when you're doing all this, shit
Speaker 2: like it catches up to you at some. Point maybe
Speaker 2: he's like worn. OUT i don't, know like he's just
Speaker 2: posted up somewhere with a fucking bag of a drenochrome
Speaker 2: dripping into his. BALLS i don't, Know like at some
Speaker 2: point your body just gives out from all the evil
Speaker 2: shit you've been.
Speaker 4: Doing, yeah and you look the background Of Tom, hanks
Speaker 4: and we're not the first people to go into, this
Speaker 4: but you see the humiliation rituals early on his, career
Speaker 4: where he was forced to dress up as a woman
Speaker 4: ON tv and roles within. Movies was the whole drag
Speaker 4: scenes that go on early. On it's almost like the
Speaker 4: initiation ritual that they have to do for their. Careers
Speaker 4: we went from that into things Like Bachelor, party where
Speaker 4: it's very sexualized that type of.
Speaker 3: Nature he then somehow.
Speaker 4: Falls into the role Of big where he's surrounded by
Speaker 4: kids and he's a personification of a child in a man's,
Speaker 4: body which is very. Pedophilic the fact that he sleeps
Speaker 4: with a woman in that film pretty disgusting when you
Speaker 4: think about it. Now regardless of him being a grown
Speaker 4: up man then goes into this film which is almost,
Speaker 4: like let's cover up the. Conspiracies let's make the white
Speaker 4: Suburban american who's starting to notice things look. CRAZY i
Speaker 4: think that's the real message in. THIS i read out
Speaker 4: the article at the, start which is kind of pushing
Speaker 4: that idea again onto the mainstream. Public but it's the
Speaker 4: inversion of. That people noticing things because they're out in
Speaker 4: the open, now, yeah and they don't care what's being
Speaker 4: put out. There if we've got the ability to put
Speaker 4: two and two, together that's a dangerous thing for. Them
Speaker 4: so now they're running cover and saying that you know
Speaker 4: your conspiracy theorists, again It's trump support is it's a Maga.
Speaker 4: Republicans they don't know what's really going. On it's all
Speaker 4: about white guilt and blah blah. Blah it's really. Not
Speaker 4: there's things that you can generally notice and connect the dots.
Speaker 2: With, well where would you rank it In Tom hanks's?
Speaker 2: Movies would you rank it as like number? One number?
Speaker 2: Two like do you have another?
Speaker 4: FAVORITE i would put it as maybe a number. TWO
Speaker 4: i really Enjoyed big as a kid growing.
Speaker 2: Up maybe we should just refresh the. Listeners let's See
Speaker 2: Tom hanks movies in Case i'm forgetting some. Biggies let's See.
Speaker 2: Splash did you Watch?
Speaker 3: Splash The mermaid?
Speaker 4: One i've seen it, before but it's not something That
Speaker 4: i'm deeply invested.
Speaker 2: In i'm not going to go through every single, one
Speaker 2: but these are some of the ones that the listeners might.
Speaker 2: Like for, me Money pit and then Uh turner and
Speaker 2: Hootch Uh sleepless In. Seattle, oh Fuck Forrest. Gump that's Gonna.
Speaker 2: OH i definitely am putting that up, there saving Private
Speaker 2: Ryan toy. Story you've got mail Cast? Away, Oh drew
Speaker 2: The Green. Mile FUCK i about that one.
Speaker 4: Too The man with The One Red, Shoe The.
Speaker 2: Man with the one red? Shoe where did you get that?
Speaker 4: For i've never Seen Tom hanks is The man With
Speaker 4: One Red shoe nineteen eighty, Five Red Shoe, Club Red Shoe.
Speaker 2: Club how About Polar, express The Da Vinci. Code, uh let's.
Speaker 3: See he has done a. Lot this is the.
Speaker 4: Thing this is why He's america's, dad because he's been
Speaker 4: in these not always, blockbusters but they're culturally rich films
Speaker 4: that people will always. Remember The urbs is a great
Speaker 4: example of. It this movie bombed in the box. Office
Speaker 4: it wasn't, REALLY i can't believe.
Speaker 2: THAT i can't believe.
Speaker 3: That then it became a cult hit after the.
Speaker 2: Fact yeah he was In.
Speaker 4: Elvis, YEAH i think he was the, manager wasn't.
Speaker 2: He oh, Right, Okay so it's got obviously it's got
Speaker 2: Like pinocchio and some of his newer, STUFF A Beautiful
Speaker 2: day in The, Neighborhood, greyhound Fucking Cloud. Atlas but the
Speaker 2: ones That i'm going to go, with, Uh i'm going
Speaker 2: to rate Money pit as my number, one The burbs
Speaker 2: as my number, two For stcump is my number. THREE
Speaker 2: i quote it all the. Time And i'm gonna go
Speaker 2: with Cast away for my number. Four and coming in
Speaker 2: at number five is the divinc.
Speaker 4: Code yeah, Fair i'd probably Go turner And hooch number,
Speaker 4: one big as.
Speaker 3: Too The burbs is number.
Speaker 4: THREE i can't go past the toy story even though
Speaker 4: it's just voice. Acting the first toy story was amazing
Speaker 4: stories coming in number four for, you, yep and then
Speaker 4: The Green, Mile.
Speaker 2: Green mile coming in number.
Speaker 3: Five that's.
Speaker 2: It that is. It that's a good. Lineup that's a good.
Speaker 2: LINEUP i probably should have shared my screen WHILE i
Speaker 2: was doing. That, Yeah, no so The burbs itself one
Speaker 2: to Ten klopex on, CONSPIRACY.
Speaker 4: I would probably go maybe an eight on. CONSPIRACY i
Speaker 4: wouldn't go full ten because there just wasn't. Enough it
Speaker 4: was spaced out well enough within the film that kept
Speaker 4: you paying attention looking for, it but it wasn't just
Speaker 4: bang bang bang one after the. Other that are in
Speaker 4: small bite sized chunks at the, start the, middle and the.
Speaker 4: End but on the on their, face they were.
Speaker 3: Really good enough to dig into the.
Speaker 4: Weeds, YEAH i have to find out that ata like
Speaker 4: This god Of fire was.
Speaker 2: Literally the First that one was that you blew my
Speaker 2: mind with that. Ship that was a really good. Catch
Speaker 2: that was a super good. CATCH i was gonna, ALSO
Speaker 2: i don't want to have the same, answer So i'm
Speaker 2: gonna go eight point three three Uh. CLOPEX i think
Speaker 2: it's it's almost right up there with like being one
Speaker 2: of the more obviously conspiratorial. Movies but WHEN i compared
Speaker 2: to some of the other episodes we've done that were
Speaker 2: ten out of, TEN i would, say. O our coverage
Speaker 2: on The alien franchise was ten out of. TEN i
Speaker 2: think Even Dark shadows might have been a ten out of.
Speaker 2: Ten for, me just like when you really dig into,
Speaker 2: it but the, Burbs i'm gonna get eight point three
Speaker 2: three on. That did you, watch by the, way SINCE
Speaker 2: i have you the new alien Movie? Romulus, Yep?
Speaker 3: ROMULUS i?
Speaker 5: Have?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay do you want to give me like the cliff?
Speaker 2: NOTES i haven't seen it? Yet is? It is it?
Speaker 4: Good is it?
Speaker 9: Bad is?
Speaker 4: It it's not, Really, Scott it's it's the error of
Speaker 4: alien and. Aliens though they've gone back to the aesthetics
Speaker 4: look just like. It it's not The prometheus type of
Speaker 4: everything's somehow more advanced than what the previously. Is the
Speaker 4: technology looks Like alien nineteen. SEVENTIES i don't like. Storyline it's, perfect,
Speaker 4: Though i'm telling you it. Fit, okay sell it to you, actually.
Speaker 4: Okay it ties up all the loose ends Of. Prometheus
Speaker 4: the alien that we saw ejected out of the spaceship
Speaker 4: in the First alien film turns itself into a chrysalis
Speaker 4: in space and whaling you tiny gets a hold of.
Speaker 4: It they grab, It they take it back to a
Speaker 4: space station Called romulus And, remus so straight away we've
Speaker 4: got the esoteric. Stuff on The rome they start to
Speaker 4: re engineer the Black goo The Black, coup which they
Speaker 4: Call prometheus, five And prometheus was the fifth film in
Speaker 4: The alien, franchise so they name the. Good they start
Speaker 4: genetically engineering face. Huggers something goes around on The Space,
Speaker 4: shuttle which they don't, know the space, station which it
Speaker 4: doesn't really explain until a young group of kids who
Speaker 4: want to get off a mining planet want to escape
Speaker 4: the planet and go to a new, world a free
Speaker 4: zone that's not owned by the corporation or the. Colonies
Speaker 4: they go there to get some cryer beds because they
Speaker 4: want to survive the sixty yearlong. Trip right howl ensues
Speaker 4: lots of aliens hybrid. Creatures it's right if you haven't seen.
Speaker 2: It so it has nothing to do With. Covenant then not.
Speaker 3: A direct, time, no because.
Speaker 2: It's not peaking up off Of, covenant not.
Speaker 4: Exactly it takes place in between alien and, aliens but
Speaker 4: a long time After. Covenant Whoa so there could be
Speaker 4: a third another, one a third in The Covenant prometheus
Speaker 4: series that would help tie it all. In but it
Speaker 4: does it in this because they Describe Whyland Bishop wyland
Speaker 4: went to the, planet found the gur and then naming
Speaker 4: it after His prometheus five expedition.
Speaker 2: Whoa all, right all, right all, RIGHT i gotta watch.
Speaker 2: IT i gotta watch. It that sounds fucking fucked. Up
Speaker 2: The Face huggers Really basager's.
Speaker 4: Drones there's a hybrid creature at the very end of
Speaker 4: it that comes from a pregnant woman who he's injected
Speaker 4: with the GUR i don't want to give y, spoilers
Speaker 4: but it's god damn Good, ovacially it's akin to The.
Speaker 2: Originals WHEN i watch, IT i WILL i will have
Speaker 2: to message you and let you know WHAT i. Think
Speaker 2: BUT i, Mean i'm excited now because you, know it
Speaker 2: looked kind of, gay like they. Weren't you, know they
Speaker 2: weren't like picking it up right off a. Covenant it
Speaker 2: looked like some, other totally different thing to. Me SO
Speaker 2: i didn't know if they went in like a gay
Speaker 2: direction with it or if they were going to keep
Speaker 2: it with like the cool shit about like what makes
Speaker 2: alien so? Cool you. Know so it sounds like they,
Speaker 2: did and Now i'm excited to watch. It fucking face.
Speaker 2: Huggers but So. Drew when we team up and we
Speaker 2: do breakdowns, TOGETHER i always get so many. Compliments everyone
Speaker 2: loves the, energy you, bring the. Research everything Is. Dynamite
Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining me for yet another,
Speaker 2: breakdown and if you could those who are hearing you
Speaker 2: for the first, time let them know where they can
Speaker 2: find more of your.
Speaker 4: Work, Yeah drew missing from You All missing The point,
Speaker 4: podcast AM i doubles AND i find in all the Usual.
Speaker 4: Podcatches also co hosts a show Called Conspiracy theater three,
Speaker 4: thousand in which me and the Guys Moral bob And
Speaker 4: Ryan dane we break down films similar to. This we
Speaker 4: do watch, lungs we do, commentaries we do, breakdowns all
Speaker 4: that good. Stuff and thanks again for having me On.
Speaker 4: JULIE'S i love. THESE i always look forward to. Them
Speaker 4: we always pick great, movies stuff that we tend to
Speaker 4: miss On Conspiracy data three. Thousand so you're indulging me
Speaker 4: with these types of, conversations WHICH i really.
Speaker 2: Enjoy, OH i was gonna say me. TOO i love
Speaker 2: teaming up on. THESE i think we pick some fun
Speaker 2: ones from our, childhood fun ones that people wouldn't think.
Speaker 2: About harry and The henderson's that was a great, One
Speaker 2: but So i'm looking forward we'll team up on another.
Speaker 2: One it doesn't even have to be a. Breakdown we
Speaker 2: can just pick something random, maybe but uh, YEAH i
Speaker 2: hope everyone goes and checks out more of your. Work
Speaker 2: thank you again for joining me, tonight and to all
Speaker 2: the listeners out, there thank you and we will catch
Speaker 2: you on the next.
Speaker 6: ONE i think the message to psychos, fanatics murderers not
Speaker 6: cases all over the world is do not mess with
Speaker 6: suburbanites because, frankly we're just not gonna take it. Anymore you,
Speaker 6: know we're not going to be content to look after
Speaker 6: our lawns and wax our, cars paint our.
Speaker 5: Houses we're out to get them. Now we are out.
Speaker 5: Together