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<v Speaker 1>You see, something's going to happen. What What's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 2>What I help? Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a bunch of us here tonight. We got

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<v Speaker 2>the occult reject mad scientist Lisa with us tonight. And

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<v Speaker 2>then we also got the spiritual gangster herself. We got Teresa.

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<v Speaker 2>We got my favorite garbage can do JJ Advance, and

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<v Speaker 2>we got the one and only headless Giant we got him,

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<v Speaker 2>and we got my boy magic Mike. Uh yeah, So

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<v Speaker 2>we got a bunch of us here tonight, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be talking on a topic that I think we

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<v Speaker 2>are all interested in. And I have been hearing about

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<v Speaker 2>how this guest that we have has been doing some

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<v Speaker 2>amazing work on this book. Even a couple of people

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<v Speaker 2>from this podcast has even said that they're really impressed

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<v Speaker 2>with the work that she did on it. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very excited to have her back on too. And it

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<v Speaker 2>has been a long time since she's been on. So please,

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<v Speaker 2>for all the new listeners that I've had since then,

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<v Speaker 2>please let all of them know Julia, what is up

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<v Speaker 2>with you and where they can find all of your work. Please.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, Yeah, thanks so much for having me. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the last time I was on the Occult Reject so

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<v Speaker 3>I still used to color in my eyebrows. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>been a while.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I have the Cosmic Speech podcast. I'm available wherever

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<v Speaker 3>you listen to podcasts, and I think it's you know, Spotify, iTunes,

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<v Speaker 3>just wherever you could just google it, something will pop up.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't have YouTube anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to look for that and I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to ask you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they gave me. They gave me two strikes, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm quitting this relationship before we get

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<v Speaker 3>to the third one. This was my decision, not yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so but anywhere else. And I do have Patreon

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<v Speaker 3>for like exclusive stuff, AD free stuff in early releases

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<v Speaker 3>on all my episodes over there on Patreon. You can

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<v Speaker 3>just find it looking for Cosmic Peach. But yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really excited about this one. Thanks, thanks again for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, of course, of course, and you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>real quick, just for some of the other people here

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<v Speaker 2>totally forgot. I was going to let some of them

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<v Speaker 2>plug themselves headless. Let everybody know where they can find

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<v Speaker 2>your show at two real quick please, And yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 2>muted it again as usual.

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<v Speaker 4>You can find me on YouTube obviously, and I'm streaming

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<v Speaker 4>this out now. You can also find me on x

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<v Speaker 4>that's where I do most of my ship posting, and

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes I get on Instagram, so if you want to

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<v Speaker 4>check that out, that's where I am. Look up the Headless.

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<v Speaker 2>Giant podcast listen. Thank you very much, and JJ Vance.

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<v Speaker 2>Let everybody know where they can find your amazing work

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<v Speaker 2>as well, Lisa.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Nick, appreciate the invite. JJ Advance, Host of

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<v Speaker 5>Operations GCD right there on the screen. Boom uh, looking

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<v Speaker 5>forward to the conversation. I'm a big mccount fan. I

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<v Speaker 5>definitely a big, big fan of this book Program to

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<v Speaker 5>Kill as well as far as an eye opening experience

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<v Speaker 5>in my worldview. For sure, I've probably read that book,

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<v Speaker 5>but now it's great see everybody looking forward to the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, Thank you very much, sir and Teresa. Last but

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<v Speaker 2>not least, it's Joe, the other one with the show

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<v Speaker 2>here for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so I have the Spiritual Gangsters podcast. People can

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<v Speaker 6>check that out everywhere you find podcasts and YouTube, and

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<v Speaker 6>they can find me on X and Instagram at t

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<v Speaker 6>s Gangsters Plot.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome thank you very much, and all of their links

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<v Speaker 2>and Julia's link tree is already in the bottom, so

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<v Speaker 2>if people want to go check out his stuff, go

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<v Speaker 2>for it. I guess Julia will get to you real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>What made you even, I guess, get into or start

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about covering this, because I mean that had to

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<v Speaker 2>be a ten itself.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, yeah. I didn't take it on lightheartedly because

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<v Speaker 3>I knew it was a huge subject matter. But I

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<v Speaker 3>actually first read Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon, which is

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<v Speaker 3>another David McGowan book, and it has to do more

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<v Speaker 3>with the Laurel Canyon and you know all of the

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<v Speaker 3>counterculture movement stuff and how it was just a big

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<v Speaker 3>CIA project and pretty much every musician from the Laurel

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<v Speaker 3>Canyon their dads were all in the military, and of

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<v Speaker 3>course everyone's familiar with Jim Morrison and his dad and

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<v Speaker 3>the Gulf of Tonkin and all that. That's like conspiracy

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<v Speaker 3>candy kind of at the point, like everyone really knows

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<v Speaker 3>about it. But Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon like explodes

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing wide open, and it's crazy and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just as interesting as a read. But after I finished

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<v Speaker 3>that one, I wanted to move onto another book that

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<v Speaker 3>he wrote, which was Programmed to Kill, and I liked

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<v Speaker 3>weird scenes so much that I was like, Oh, this

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be bomb, this is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>fucking fantastic. Oh my god. I was so excited to

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<v Speaker 3>read it because it's all the things white women love.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's conspiracy, serial killers, true crime. Like that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's the white girls dream book right there, and so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, yeah, right, right right, you go to Starbucks

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<v Speaker 3>and read program to Kill. That's like a wet dream

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<v Speaker 3>or something. But well, yeah, yeah, so yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 3>excited to read it anyways, and then chapter after chapter

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<v Speaker 3>I just got more sucked into it, and I actually

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't believe more people weren't talking about the stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>was in this book because it was incredible. And he

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<v Speaker 3>spends a lot of time at the back of the

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<v Speaker 3>book talking about serial killers. But there's like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen chapters or something like that in the beginning where

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<v Speaker 3>it's all about how there's these interconnected pedophile rings that

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<v Speaker 3>are just running the country and he has receipts for

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like it's very well researched, and it blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I kind of dove into it looking for

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<v Speaker 3>kind of clues and stuff on my own, and I

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<v Speaker 3>put together basically I did what was the first one.

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<v Speaker 3>I did the Pedaphocracy series, Uncle Sam Wants Your Children series,

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<v Speaker 3>Program to Kill series, and then I'm working on a

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<v Speaker 3>series right now called Blood Ties, and it's all about

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<v Speaker 3>stuff I've researched from the book Program to Kill. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think I've done maybe what ten plus episodes just

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<v Speaker 3>on this one book. So, I mean, you guys have

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<v Speaker 3>any questions or anything, but are you guys familiar with

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<v Speaker 3>Dave McGowan at all?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, yes, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I think the book is super important.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, if you want to lose all trust in

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<v Speaker 9>our intelligence networks and really brings shine a light on

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<v Speaker 9>it's like is everything compromised? Well that s guy brings

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<v Speaker 9>a receipt.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's important too, especially when you're writing a

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<v Speaker 3>book about this kind of stuff. You want to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to see where it's not just like baseless claims

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<v Speaker 3>because everyone loves to jump to oh their pedophile, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's like Dave McGowan actually shows you, like how this

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<v Speaker 3>person is actually a pedophile. I mean, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>easy for us to be like, Oh, that celebrity is

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<v Speaker 3>probably a pedo, and oh, he probably went to a

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<v Speaker 3>Diddy party, and it's just, you know, it's our conjecture

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<v Speaker 3>whether or not that stuff actually happens. But Dave McGowan

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<v Speaker 3>lays it out like on a buffet, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's crazy because it actually turns out that these pedophile

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<v Speaker 3>networks are so integrated. They're integrated with serial killers, they're

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<v Speaker 3>integrated with the government, they're integrated with babysitting services, they're

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<v Speaker 3>integrated with schools, they're integrated. I mean, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 3>almost impossible for you to wrap your head around the

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<v Speaker 3>first time you read it, that's how crazy it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, another thing about Dave McGowan is he's got all

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<v Speaker 4>of his resources just cited right there. So he's got

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<v Speaker 4>of cited resources. And I've heard people try and debunk

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<v Speaker 4>this book and they've failed miserably at it. And so

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's a real uh test of time right there,

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<v Speaker 4>is because these the you know, that's what we're up

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<v Speaker 4>against is people are looking for a way to discredit

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<v Speaker 4>this and they fail miserably. So I think that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>a really important part some of Dave McGowan's Gallan's resources.

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<v Speaker 4>He just leaves hanging out there. He doesn't draw any

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<v Speaker 4>conclusion from it, which I think is important because it

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<v Speaker 4>allows other researchers to go in there and be like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>he left this hanging. Maybe there's something else that has

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<v Speaker 4>developed since they're writing of this book.

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<v Speaker 3>So, and the crazy thing to me is a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people talk about, oh, they were probably suicided, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fill in the blank, Epstein whoever, They were all suicided, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>Dave McGowan died a weird, crazy like fast acting cancer

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<v Speaker 3>CIA type death, and nobody looks at that any further

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<v Speaker 3>than oh, he had cancer. It's natural causes, right. He's

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<v Speaker 3>he died of his own accord. But the way that

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<v Speaker 3>he contracted it, the things he was saying leading up

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<v Speaker 3>to that, it was like he knew he was on

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<v Speaker 3>their list and if somebody I get it, it was cancer, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And we can't prove that, you know, somebody gave him

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<v Speaker 3>cancer or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>But well, Lisa, as a biologist, I was I was

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<v Speaker 4>wondering if they can make immortal cell lines, which is

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<v Speaker 4>cancer izing these cells. Can't they just make cancer.

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<v Speaker 10>So immortalized cell lines is a cancer cell or a

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<v Speaker 10>cancer cell is let me rephrase that, a cancer cell

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<v Speaker 10>is an immortalized cell line. And so you naturally make

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<v Speaker 10>immortalized cell lines as kind of like an oops, but

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<v Speaker 10>your immune cells kind of get rid of them, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>kind of kill off anything that is showing some sort

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<v Speaker 10>of anomaly. One of the things that the way the

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<v Speaker 10>and they were having problems maintaining cell lines to generate

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<v Speaker 10>vaccines and what have you, and when they came across

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<v Speaker 10>one of the cell lines, it was not showing the

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<v Speaker 10>same type of decay over cell passages.

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<v Speaker 11>That's when they're like, oh my god, we've hit cold.

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<v Speaker 10>However, at the time, they kind of really didn't know

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<v Speaker 10>about cancer so to speak, and that it was infectious,

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<v Speaker 10>and so they're like, we found the holy grail. We

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<v Speaker 10>have a cell line that will never deteriorate, and we

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<v Speaker 10>can just mass produce it. Because it was allowing them

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<v Speaker 10>to make so many passages with cell lines and testing

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<v Speaker 10>everything without the decay of the chromosome and the telomeres

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<v Speaker 10>and all that other stuff. So they used that initially

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<v Speaker 10>to make vaccines not knowing that they were injecting. Well,

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<v Speaker 10>going to say that did, but at the time they

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<v Speaker 10>say that they didn't know. And so when they injected

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<v Speaker 10>obviously they were injecting mortalized cell lines.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, so are you saying like they could just like

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<v Speaker 3>inject somebody with this, they could squirt it in their

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<v Speaker 3>coffee what so? So I'm just I'm curious. No no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 10>So what was coming about Around in the sixties, there

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<v Speaker 10>were a lot of scientists pointing evidence that the data

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<v Speaker 10>was showing that viruses were responsible for mutating a cell

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<v Speaker 10>to the point of immortalization. So if you kind of

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<v Speaker 10>that viruses themselves could cause cancer. And now we have

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<v Speaker 10>proof of that, like with HPV. Right, HPV is a

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<v Speaker 10>we have throw cancer and all that other stuff. So

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<v Speaker 10>if they were to inject someone with the virus fast

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<v Speaker 3>Or could they just send somebody like coffin Dave's face

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<v Speaker 3>and like just get him. You know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but you know.

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<v Speaker 11>What kind of cancer specifically?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it was probably like fucking ainus. That's probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Working environment. It was susceptible to lung cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's for stuff like this, you know, this real

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<v Speaker 10>So one of the things if you look back at

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<v Speaker 10>weaponization of viruses, it's around the same timeline when people

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<v Speaker 10>it when did he die?

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't like twenty thirteen or something twenty fifteen. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I just had it pulled up. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 3>ten years now. But he was actually working on something

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<v Speaker 3>on the Boston Marathon bombing, and he was putting together

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<v Speaker 3>a book on that, and then you know, next thing

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Dave's got cancer and he's dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the most famous great series he did, go ahead, Edels.

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<v Speaker 4>The most famous case of injectable cancer was SB forty,

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<v Speaker 4>which they put into the polio vaccine, and lots of

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<v Speaker 4>people got tumors from that. They're like, oh, it's not fatal,

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<v Speaker 10>Know, you know, grow a virus, you know, because we

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<v Speaker 10>Viruses cannot be isolated. They can only grow inside of

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<v Speaker 10>a cell. They have to infect to sell. And then well,

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<v Speaker 10>them because they're not alive. They're just basically inserts, and

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<v Speaker 10>once you have a cell, now you can go ahead

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<v Speaker 10>and whatever. So SB forty was the actual kidney cell

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<v Speaker 10>line and it was from a monkey. And so again

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<v Speaker 10>you have the immortalized cell line that was able to

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<v Speaker 11>So that's fucked.

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<v Speaker 12>Do the same thing as in the COVID jobs too.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say that would be so easy for

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<v Speaker 3>them to sneak into stuff, so I mean, I could

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<v Speaker 3>totally see that. But yeah, so rip day McGowan. He

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<v Speaker 3>was a really cool guy. I think his daughter still

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<v Speaker 3>has like an online book store, And if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>order Program to Kill after listening to this episode, don't

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<v Speaker 3>order it through Amazon. Go through his daughter because I

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<v Speaker 3>think that helps support like his you know whatever for

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<v Speaker 3>the Dave McGowan memorial thing or whatever. But he starts

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<v Speaker 3>the book off and just break in if you have

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<v Speaker 3>any questions. But he starts the book off by talking

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<v Speaker 3>about this pedophile guy in Belgium. They called him the

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<v Speaker 3>Belgium Beast. His name was Mark Dutreaux. Have you guys

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<v Speaker 3>ever heard of this fucker?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that he associated with the Mothers of Darkness Castle

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<v Speaker 4>as well over there in Belgium.

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<v Speaker 3>He's involved in all kinds of stuff and he's wrapped

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<v Speaker 3>up in all of these pedophile rings and shit. But

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<v Speaker 3>what the crazy thing is about this guy is like

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<v Speaker 3>I think he like molested a couple of young girls

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<v Speaker 3>and then he went to prison but was able to

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<v Speaker 3>get out within like I don't know, eight months or

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<v Speaker 3>something real like slight like that, instead of serving out

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<v Speaker 3>his whole sentence. And then it was almost as if

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<v Speaker 3>someone wanted him out, like he was getting released for

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<v Speaker 3>a reason. And so he gets released and then he

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<v Speaker 3>goes right back at it. He starts raping and murdering

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<v Speaker 3>and doing all this shit, and even his neighbors would

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<v Speaker 3>call the cops and be like, we hear fucking girls

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<v Speaker 3>screaming from this house and somebody better come check this out.

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<v Speaker 3>And the police would supposedly drive by and they would

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<v Speaker 3>see like, oh, nothing's wrong here, and just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>totally dismiss everything. Even this guy's mom. Mark Dutrou's mom

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<v Speaker 3>called the police and said, I think there's something wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to go check out my son's house and whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>The police go, they say, they see nothing wrong. Time

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<v Speaker 3>goes by and they discover that he's got little girls

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<v Speaker 3>buried all over his property. He's got a dungeon in

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<v Speaker 3>his basement. He's been chaining bitches up down there. He's

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<v Speaker 3>been making snuff films, he's been making like child porn all. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy's busy, Yeah, he's busy.

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<v Speaker 3>He's fucking busy, and he's probably on welfare, so he's

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<v Speaker 3>got nothing better to do than to be at home

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<v Speaker 3>raping and killing bitches. How it works in Belgium, he.

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<v Speaker 4>Was definitely the Belgian Epstein. And what ended up, what

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<v Speaker 4>ended up causing him to go to jail, was that

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<v Speaker 4>the people of Belgium were so sick of it that

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<v Speaker 4>they took to the streets and had a national day

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<v Speaker 4>of protest, which actually got into looking into this guy

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<v Speaker 4>and putting him in jail. But they, I mean, they

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<v Speaker 4>didn't execute him, they didn't do nothing like that. And

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<v Speaker 4>he's still rotting in jail to this day. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just overwhelming amounts of evidence. And the thing I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen about him is that he's associated with this Belgium

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<v Speaker 4>castle they call the Mothers of Darkness Castle. So he's

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<v Speaker 4>basically running an Epstein network out there for blackmailing Belgian politicians.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's pretty important because you know, this

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<v Speaker 4>of this globalism is right there, and he's associated with

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<v Speaker 4>all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was going to ask, what's his NATO connections.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's Belgium, so it's NATO HQ.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was definitely connected, and I mean headless put

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<v Speaker 3>it perfectly, because they use people like Mark dutrou to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like act vicariously through. He procures the girls

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<v Speaker 3>and then they make these you know, blackmail tapes, and

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<v Speaker 3>they make snuff films and they do all that this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff and they probably sell them too. And so they

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<v Speaker 3>use a guy like Mark Dutroux. They see that he's

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<v Speaker 3>already into this shit, he's already been raping and molested

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<v Speaker 3>in his way through. They let him out of jail

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<v Speaker 3>early and they almost kind of recruit these men to

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<v Speaker 3>be a part of the of the scheme. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's Like, before I move off of Mark Dutrow, I

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<v Speaker 3>just want to say, it's like the same concept of

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<v Speaker 3>the serial killer. There's they they probably look for people

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<v Speaker 3>who fit a specific profile, who already are somewhat psychopathic,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they weaponize them to do their bidding. And

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<v Speaker 3>so it's the idea of the program to kill. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not very unlike programmed to pedophile because it seems like

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<v Speaker 3>they're also connected in these circles. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>you guys had any questions on that though, before I

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<v Speaker 3>go to the next part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Those satanism connected to the De Trou.

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<v Speaker 3>Affair, I think Dutrow, uh from what I can remember,

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<v Speaker 3>they said like maybe his parents were into it, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was like a generational thing, kind of like generational satanism.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they take the little boys, they dress them

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<v Speaker 3>like girls, they make them eat shit, drink piss. It's

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<v Speaker 3>all part of like the trauma, and then they grow

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<v Speaker 3>up and then they become Mark Dutrow because it's like

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<v Speaker 3>generational satanism.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, so there was evidence of that then with the

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<v Speaker 5>De trou affair as well, because it seems to have

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<v Speaker 5>the hallmarks of it. But I'd never recall there being

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<v Speaker 5>anything in the investigation too much toward the book for

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<v Speaker 5>that matter, regard the satanic elements of it, but certainly

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<v Speaker 5>has all the hallmarks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'd have to go back and read it to

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<v Speaker 3>be sure, but I'm pretty if I'm remembering right. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was like a generational thing and like his

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<v Speaker 3>grandma or something. It's always like the grandma who's the

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<v Speaker 3>Satanist to like dressism, like girls and stuff. It's all

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<v Speaker 3>fucked up. But I mean, as far as I can tell,

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<v Speaker 3>this du Troe guy, he had like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>like people under him and then there was like people

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<v Speaker 3>under them and it was literally like a spider web,

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<v Speaker 3>and they were all producing child porn and you know

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<v Speaker 3>blackmail stuff with politicians.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, that sort of goes back into the mothers

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<v Speaker 4>of darkness angle. So the predominant theory is that this

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<v Speaker 4>castle is where you've got a lot of these, i guess,

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<v Speaker 4>highly psychic women that act as like the generals of

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<v Speaker 4>this kind of pedaphocracy, and so basically they're getting orders

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<v Speaker 4>from this Belgium castle, and the castle to this day

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<v Speaker 4>people have tried to infiltrate and everything else. They've got

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<v Speaker 4>massive security around it. And there doesn't appear to be

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<v Speaker 4>any you know, overt reason for it other than the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that all of these you know, politicians and everybody

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<v Speaker 4>else can be seen driving up there and basically getting

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<v Speaker 4>orders from headquarters.

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<v Speaker 1>That's wild.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah it is. And actually the next one that

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to talk to you guys about, it's governmente too.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's uh, not in Belgium, obviously, it's here. But like,

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<v Speaker 3>have you guys ever heard of the Franklin cover up?

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<v Speaker 3>The Franklin scandal?

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<v Speaker 2>We covered that, Oh you did, yeah, when lux was around.

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<v Speaker 3>Ancient history b C.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, b L before. Look, the show has been

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<v Speaker 2>around longer than he was, so at least that's good

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<v Speaker 2>now without it's been around without him.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so the Franklin scandal, it was a lot

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<v Speaker 3>like what was happening in Belgium with Mark Dutreaux, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was over here and it was a politician guy,

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<v Speaker 3>this black Republican guy, Larry King, not the talk show

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<v Speaker 3>fucking house.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it was great about that when Julia that was

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<v Speaker 2>ald Republicans, right right, right, People's that's why it's not

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<v Speaker 2>that popular because it wasn't Ald Democrats.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, speaking of Republicans. Let me just throw this in there,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's in Program to Kill.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what side of the fence anyone's on.

421
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<v Speaker 3>I am not on either side. Okay. But Donald Trump, okay,

422
00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:46.640
<v Speaker 3>was friends with this guy he's mentioned in Program to Kill.

423
00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:53.119
<v Speaker 3>His name was Roy Kohane, and he was a known

424
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<v Speaker 3>gay pedophile and he got other gay people removed from

425
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<v Speaker 3>their position in the office. They called it like the

426
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<v Speaker 3>Violet Scare, the Violet scandal or something like that, and

427
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:09.519
<v Speaker 3>then turned out he was the biggest gayest pedophile out

428
00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:13.680
<v Speaker 3>of all of them. And he was besties with Donald Trump.

429
00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:19.759
<v Speaker 3>And also Donald Trump is besties with Epstein, although he

430
00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:25.119
<v Speaker 3>doesn't seem to remember that shit. And it's like, I'm sorry,

431
00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:28.000
<v Speaker 3>you're not going to convince me that he's just oblivious

432
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:31.880
<v Speaker 3>to all this shit. His best friend, this Roy Cone guy,

433
00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:35.400
<v Speaker 3>he was known to have like little boy parties at

434
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<v Speaker 3>his house, you know, and invite all of his politician

435
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:39.640
<v Speaker 3>friends over and stuff.

436
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<v Speaker 2>You remember Bill Burr, that was you know, supposedly Trump's

437
00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:44.559
<v Speaker 2>boy that was going to, you know, help take down

438
00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:48.640
<v Speaker 2>all these pedophile rings. He was around. He was around

439
00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:52.119
<v Speaker 2>during the Franklin scandal, and somebody brought stuff to him

440
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:55.000
<v Speaker 2>and said, Yo, you think something's going on here? He

441
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.680
<v Speaker 2>looked at Nope, nothing to see here. Same thing he

442
00:25:57.720 --> 00:26:02.559
<v Speaker 2>did with Epstein. Shit, I'm telling you, I swear to

443
00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:04.799
<v Speaker 2>God that guy's put in position to let ship slid.

444
00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Bill barrr Yeah, Bill Barr, Yeah, Bill Barr Yeah, Bill

445
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Barr Yeah, Bill bar.

446
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:14.920
<v Speaker 5>Will Bar's neck teem whatever neck he has. He's a

447
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:17.039
<v Speaker 5>nect eve in the Rank concert scandal. He was out

448
00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:20.119
<v Speaker 5>it is having an undercover intelligence name there and seen

449
00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:24.680
<v Speaker 5>in multiple sites, including me in Arkansas, so by numerous witnesses.

450
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:28.640
<v Speaker 5>So that dude is definitely scandalous. But speaking of roy Cone,

451
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:31.519
<v Speaker 5>he's a court to Maury Terry. The files of Moriitarry,

452
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:31.799
<v Speaker 5>he had.

453
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Roy Cone is a member of the process.

454
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<v Speaker 3>Are you talking about, uh, the Maury Terry? Are you

455
00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:41.279
<v Speaker 3>talking about the Ultimate Evil?

456
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Or sure? Yep? Yep.

457
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<v Speaker 5>And within his files he didn't mention it in the book,

458
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<v Speaker 5>but within his files he has Roy Cone listed as

459
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<v Speaker 5>a member of the process of the children there the

460
00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:54.079
<v Speaker 5>Entra Myer cult, contingent of the process, and also in

461
00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 5>that group is a fellow that grew up in Westchester

462
00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:59.759
<v Speaker 5>County and part of the children there listed in the

463
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<v Speaker 5>Terry Files who happens to be a banker out in Omaha,

464
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<v Speaker 5>Nebraska to day.

465
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:07.279
<v Speaker 3>And he gets off Scott for you right.

466
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:10.519
<v Speaker 5>Not only that, he's in a site where you know

467
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:13.240
<v Speaker 5>where the Franklin scandal was, the headquarters of it is

468
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:15.640
<v Speaker 5>with bankers and Omaha, Nebraska. So you have a member

469
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.359
<v Speaker 5>of the Children identified in the Terry Files who is

470
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<v Speaker 5>part of the Westchester coult contingent of the process.

471
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<v Speaker 1>The minute at Ramer Park.

472
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 5>You know, it's largely responsible attributed to the Son of

473
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.000
<v Speaker 5>Sam murders and additional murders on top of what is

474
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:31.519
<v Speaker 5>known as the Sun of Sam murders. But yeah, one

475
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:33.839
<v Speaker 5>of those guys from the Children is a banker out

476
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:36.400
<v Speaker 5>now on today, a VP has been out there for

477
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:37.400
<v Speaker 5>almost thirty years.

478
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:40.119
<v Speaker 1>He runs a bank out there. So I find that

479
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>very odd.

480
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Well fucking nuts. Oh sorry, go ahead.

481
00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:48.880
<v Speaker 4>One of the most interesting parts of Broyd Koin's history

482
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:53.640
<v Speaker 4>is his acting as a legal council to a lot

483
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:57.880
<v Speaker 4>of the mobsters in New York. So the mobsters would

484
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:01.039
<v Speaker 4>hire him, He'd come into the court and everybody in

485
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:06.079
<v Speaker 4>the courtroom would now stop badgering the mobsters and started

486
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.720
<v Speaker 4>treating them with some more respect because Roy ConA had

487
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:13.359
<v Speaker 4>dirt on all of the court officers and so he

488
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:17.400
<v Speaker 4>was very influential in the late eighties when the FBI

489
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.119
<v Speaker 4>was going after all these mobsters.

490
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:23.680
<v Speaker 3>He's a fucking piece of shit, is what he is.

491
00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:28.640
<v Speaker 3>And I just I you know, sometimes the company you

492
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:32.680
<v Speaker 3>keep says a lot about you. And so I'm not

493
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:36.559
<v Speaker 3>friends with any pedophiles that I know of. I'm not

494
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:40.599
<v Speaker 3>friends with any murderous douchebags that I know of. So

495
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:46.279
<v Speaker 3>if your friend group includes more than one murderous pedophiling douchebag,

496
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:50.599
<v Speaker 3>I mean you start wondering maybe this guy is a murdering,

497
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:55.680
<v Speaker 3>pedophiling douchebag. That's all I'm saying. Again, I don't you know.

498
00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:57.880
<v Speaker 3>I know a lot of people are trumping and a

499
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:00.720
<v Speaker 3>lot of whatever, but it is what it is as

500
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 3>far as that goes. And it's the same with this

501
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:07.440
<v Speaker 3>Franklin scandal stuff, because it was basically a black Republican

502
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:12.759
<v Speaker 3>guy who was invested in a bunch of loans and

503
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:20.279
<v Speaker 3>savings companies, and he was also doing like charitable stuff

504
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:26.480
<v Speaker 3>with Boystown I think it was, and so I guess

505
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.240
<v Speaker 3>they were funneling boys out of this boys Town which

506
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 3>was like a halfway house or an orphanage of some kind,

507
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 3>and they were taking him and doing all this blackmail

508
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:44.000
<v Speaker 3>stuff with them. And one of the most known survivors

509
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:45.720
<v Speaker 3>of this, I guess you could call him, is a

510
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.559
<v Speaker 3>guy named Paul Banassi, which I'm sure a lot of

511
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.039
<v Speaker 3>you are familiar with. And this guy's incredible because if

512
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.119
<v Speaker 3>he's telling the truth, if everything, it almost makes me

513
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:57.720
<v Speaker 3>wonder how he's able to say the amount of stuff

514
00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:00.440
<v Speaker 3>that he says and get away with it. But if

515
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.640
<v Speaker 3>half of the stuff he says is true, holy fucking

516
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.680
<v Speaker 3>ship balls. I mean, have you guys heard this guy talk?

517
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:09.960
<v Speaker 3>He's got like seventeen personalities.

518
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh I've seen yeah, Yeah, I watched his Yeah, we

519
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:16.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of covered his interviews on the show. Yeah, some

520
00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 2>wild stuff, some story you.

521
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:20.279
<v Speaker 3>Said you saw it?

522
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:25.240
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I've seen the book on the Franklin cover up.

523
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:29.200
<v Speaker 4>And uh, the stuff that Banassi was saying went right

524
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:31.240
<v Speaker 4>back to the very first kid they ever put on

525
00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:36.200
<v Speaker 4>a on a milk carton. So he's like.

526
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.440
<v Speaker 5>Johnny Gosh, Hey, Johnny A Jhon Pats was the first

527
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:42.799
<v Speaker 5>milk carton boy, I think though.

528
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>But yea Johnny Gosh was the.

529
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.200
<v Speaker 5>First second one, I think right right, you were the

530
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:50.440
<v Speaker 5>first paper boy. It was that paper boy craze of

531
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:52.680
<v Speaker 5>going missing there in the eighties. He was the first

532
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.599
<v Speaker 5>one of the whole scare. I remember that scare now?

533
00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:59.440
<v Speaker 8>Is he the one who was taking to the Elephant

534
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:00.599
<v Speaker 8>Rock Colorado?

535
00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Was that Johnny Gosh supposedly? Right?

536
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:06.559
<v Speaker 5>So some of that story from Bonanci seems to check out,

537
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.039
<v Speaker 5>I know, And in following some of that story wells

538
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:11.680
<v Speaker 5>and years with the author, they found that house that

539
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:13.279
<v Speaker 5>Bonaci tells about in Colorado.

540
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:17.279
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and shout out the thrash on this one. That's

541
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 9>right by Monarch Mountain.

542
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:19.720
<v Speaker 7>So you.

543
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:25.640
<v Speaker 9>Know with the whole clockwork orange thing going on, you know,

544
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.680
<v Speaker 9>the Monarch Mountain or not cockwork orange, but the shining

545
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:31.039
<v Speaker 9>the monarch poster.

546
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:33.279
<v Speaker 8>So it's just a little sink there.

547
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:35.960
<v Speaker 9>That house is right by that mountain out there, and

548
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:38.440
<v Speaker 9>there's a lot of weird stuff that goes on in

549
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:38.960
<v Speaker 9>that area.

550
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 3>So, I mean, Paul Banasi says all kinds of stuff.

551
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 3>He says Bohemian grove stuff. He says stuff about Hunter S. Thompson.

552
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:50.279
<v Speaker 2>He brought up a quino, didn't he bring up a queen?

553
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:53.839
<v Speaker 1>I believe the Toms and stuff. I think is the coultest.

554
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure he brought up Michael Aquino specifically, Yeah.

555
00:31:57.759 --> 00:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>He did.

556
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 3>He he addressed him as the colonel and he was

557
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:08.680
<v Speaker 3>supposedly in charge of all this bullshitty. So the way

558
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:11.039
<v Speaker 3>Paul p Nazi and again it does go back to

559
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:15.359
<v Speaker 3>the Johnny Gosh kid because he says that they Paul

560
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:18.640
<v Speaker 3>Banasi was there when he was taken, they did all

561
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 3>kinds of messed up stuff to him, and maybe they

562
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:26.000
<v Speaker 3>killed him. I don't remember if he said so or not.

563
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:33.799
<v Speaker 3>But Paul Banazi they always talk about, well he didn't

564
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 3>there was no trial, there was no case or whatever.

565
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:42.880
<v Speaker 3>He actually took Larry King to civil court and did

566
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:47.960
<v Speaker 3>end up winning that case against him, and I think

567
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:50.799
<v Speaker 3>Larry King had to pay him like a million dollars

568
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:55.640
<v Speaker 3>or something like that. But when people say, oh, well,

569
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:59.160
<v Speaker 3>there's nothing to support this, Paul Banasi's crazy and he

570
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:02.200
<v Speaker 3>made all this up. He won his case in civil

571
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:06.920
<v Speaker 3>court against Larry King, So I mean he was able

572
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:10.440
<v Speaker 3>to convince a jury obviously or a judge that this

573
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:14.640
<v Speaker 3>all happened. So it just gets you to think, and

574
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.799
<v Speaker 3>maybe you know all the stuff he's saying is true.

575
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:19.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, maybe it's a little true and a

576
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 3>little lies. I mean, I think it's at least partially true.

577
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Have you guys heard about any of that stuff with.

578
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 2>The trial, Well, I've I've heard about some of the

579
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.519
<v Speaker 2>stories that he just even you know, he told, especially

580
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:37.079
<v Speaker 2>with that girl too. But in my opinion, even if

581
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:40.720
<v Speaker 2>you think about the day's in the time that it

582
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:43.160
<v Speaker 2>was at, like the date I forgot how long ago,

583
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:46.519
<v Speaker 2>my opinion, like when he gave descriptions of like where

584
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:49.759
<v Speaker 2>these places are, he would be telling you, like what's

585
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.839
<v Speaker 2>on the corners of the streets. Oh, it's over that's

586
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:54.599
<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the street, like just give

587
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:57.079
<v Speaker 2>painting a visual picture, so like you could tell he

588
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 2>was probably really there, you know. So it's I don't

589
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:02.279
<v Speaker 2>think they had map quest then, and he I don't

590
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:04.200
<v Speaker 2>think he was like Google Earth, you know, Google Earth.

591
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.199
<v Speaker 2>So odds are then, like unless it was scripted for

592
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:11.199
<v Speaker 2>him to read and to know prior. My opinion, some

593
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:12.800
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff he says I do think is true

594
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:16.039
<v Speaker 2>because just the it's almost as if you like he's

595
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:17.679
<v Speaker 2>describing it as he really was there.

596
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:19.440
<v Speaker 3>I agree.

597
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:22.639
<v Speaker 4>That's that's one of the things about Paul Banasi is

598
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:30.039
<v Speaker 4>he would actually document things like graffitis inside of a McDonald's,

599
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.400
<v Speaker 4>and it's like, well, how could he possibly know that?

600
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:35.000
<v Speaker 4>And people went back and checked out his work and

601
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.199
<v Speaker 4>found all of the things that he was talking about

602
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.079
<v Speaker 4>in that book about the Franklin cover up.

603
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.760
<v Speaker 3>And that kind of leads me back to Michael Achino

604
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:47.719
<v Speaker 3>because he he talks about Michael Aquino, like I said,

605
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:51.920
<v Speaker 3>he calls him the Colonel. And then if you really

606
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:55.159
<v Speaker 3>get to dig it into the colonel quote unquote, there's

607
00:34:55.199 --> 00:35:00.719
<v Speaker 3>this stuff about the Presidio Air Force Base daycare. I

608
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:03.239
<v Speaker 3>want to say, was it the daycare or a first grade,

609
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:04.320
<v Speaker 3>second grade something like that?

610
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the army, Okay, it.

611
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:14.559
<v Speaker 3>Was a daycare. Yeah. So in Program to Kill it

612
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:22.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of outlines how the Presidio Air Force Base basically

613
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:26.280
<v Speaker 3>if Michael Aquino is the colonel or whatever and he's

614
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 3>running all this, basically they have an understanding that these

615
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:35.960
<v Speaker 3>kids are easily drugged and taken to Michael Achino's house

616
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:43.039
<v Speaker 3>for programming. And a couple of the kids started talking

617
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:45.920
<v Speaker 3>about it and they would say, like, we'd drink a pink,

618
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:50.360
<v Speaker 3>sleepy drink and then mister Gary touches our no no spot,

619
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:54.480
<v Speaker 3>and then we're taken to the colonel's house quote unquote,

620
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:57.079
<v Speaker 3>and they would say that he looked like Mickey Mouse.

621
00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 3>If you look at a picture of Michael Aquino how

622
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.239
<v Speaker 3>he used to style his hair and shit, he did

623
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:06.239
<v Speaker 3>look like fucking Mickey Mouse. It was fucking ridiculous. Go

624
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Speaker 3>and look at a picture of it. But anyways, they

625
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:10.519
<v Speaker 3>would say that he looked like Mickey Mouse. They would

626
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.880
<v Speaker 3>say that they were watching videos of animals getting torn apart,

627
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:18.119
<v Speaker 3>that they were getting asked to tear animals apart. They

628
00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:22.079
<v Speaker 3>were eating shit and drinking piss and getting shit and

629
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:26.639
<v Speaker 3>pissed on, and then they were coming home. Of course,

630
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:28.840
<v Speaker 3>they cleaned them up and stuff and sent them home.

631
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Speaker 3>And a couple of the kids started remembering this shit

632
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:37.159
<v Speaker 3>and telling their parents, and the parents filed a suit

633
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:41.199
<v Speaker 3>against Michael Keino, and Michael Keino was like, fuck you,

634
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:45.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do you for defamation, and guess what, he

635
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:50.880
<v Speaker 3>walked away. Scott Free didn't have to fucking you know,

636
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:54.639
<v Speaker 3>own up to any of this shit. And Paul Binnasi,

637
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:58.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's crazy, actually, do you guys know about

638
00:36:58.400 --> 00:36:58.960
<v Speaker 3>this stuff?

639
00:36:59.599 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 7>Right?

640
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:04.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, at the presidio, he claimed that they were coming

641
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:06.760
<v Speaker 4>after him because he was a Satanist. They're like, oh,

642
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.760
<v Speaker 4>this is all just satanic panic, but that it turns

643
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:13.960
<v Speaker 4>out in the documents related to what's that cult called

644
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:18.400
<v Speaker 4>in DC, you know this one JJ, But there's this

645
00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:21.599
<v Speaker 4>called document, yeah, the Finders called there you go. In

646
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:26.199
<v Speaker 4>the Finders called documents, they actually talk about the presidio

647
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:29.280
<v Speaker 4>and talk about that there were these tunnels under the

648
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 4>daycare that these children described, and that didn't come to

649
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:36.639
<v Speaker 4>light until, you know, twenty years after the fact. But

650
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:39.639
<v Speaker 4>there was somebody at least on that case. I believe

651
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:41.920
<v Speaker 4>it was the guy who was a customs official who

652
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:46.480
<v Speaker 4>was looking into it. That the FBI and the CIA

653
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:50.039
<v Speaker 4>were feuding over, you know, who gets to release it,

654
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.519
<v Speaker 4>and the CIA was covering up all this stuff about

655
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:57.239
<v Speaker 4>the the Finders. But the exact same type of methodology

656
00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:01.800
<v Speaker 4>talked about in the Finders with these uh sacrificed animals

657
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.000
<v Speaker 4>was one of the things that was also used by

658
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:09.840
<v Speaker 4>the AINO culled out the presidio. So there's a huge

659
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:13.519
<v Speaker 4>crossover between the two that apparently the CIA doesn't want

660
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:16.880
<v Speaker 4>coming to light because the Finders was basically a CIA

661
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:17.559
<v Speaker 4>front group.

662
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Well they're rumored to make the best born, the best

663
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:21.519
<v Speaker 1>child born.

664
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:23.400
<v Speaker 5>The CIA is they sell to everybody. It's a big

665
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:28.519
<v Speaker 5>profitable scheme for them. The other foreign intelligence agencies.

666
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:30.719
<v Speaker 3>Very profitable for them.

667
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

668
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:38.239
<v Speaker 5>Actually, oh so America is good for something, right, America,

669
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:40.199
<v Speaker 5>the best child.

670
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:43.840
<v Speaker 1>The intelligence agencies here in America.

671
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:49.760
<v Speaker 10>One of the things, dude, there was oh go ahead, no, no, no,

672
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:51.199
<v Speaker 10>it's okay, go ahead, go ahead.

673
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:54.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I'll just say it really quick. There was

674
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:58.440
<v Speaker 3>something in program to kill about There was a child

675
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:01.800
<v Speaker 3>porn website and they had like a whole HR department

676
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:04.840
<v Speaker 3>and a fucking receptionist for the front desk and all

677
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:08.440
<v Speaker 3>this shit. It's like, who's calling with an HR complained?

678
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:14.079
<v Speaker 3>Who's Colin with a fucking nine issue? Like are you serious? Anyways?

679
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, Lisa.

680
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:15.960
<v Speaker 4>No.

681
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.119
<v Speaker 10>One of the things that to me stuck out with

682
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:23.880
<v Speaker 10>Bonacci's whatever his telling was, is that if you kind

683
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:27.360
<v Speaker 10>of now, like look back, and so much has come

684
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.880
<v Speaker 10>to light now with these quote unquote serial killers, these

685
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:38.320
<v Speaker 10>quote unquote cults, the ones that have this tie to intelligence, cults,

686
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:41.719
<v Speaker 10>serial killers or anything like that, all have the same hallmark,

687
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:47.000
<v Speaker 10>the cannibalism, the satanic, the child the snuff the everything.

688
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:49.440
<v Speaker 10>And so to me, the way I grew up, and

689
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:52.119
<v Speaker 10>I grew up in doctrinated that serial killers are real.

690
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.639
<v Speaker 10>And you know, this was the thing that they all

691
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:58.920
<v Speaker 10>have their own signature, right, they all have their own methodology,

692
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:01.719
<v Speaker 10>they have their own fing print, so to speak. And

693
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:04.519
<v Speaker 10>yet no one's looking at the fact that the government's

694
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:09.320
<v Speaker 10>fingerprint is all over this. This is how they do business, right,

695
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:12.239
<v Speaker 10>and no one has kind of really tied all that,

696
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:15.079
<v Speaker 10>you know in with it all, I mean, except for

697
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:15.800
<v Speaker 10>this book.

698
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:17.559
<v Speaker 11>But it seems like.

699
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:22.840
<v Speaker 10>It's over and over. Everything is redundant in the same mo.

700
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:26.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, I agree.

701
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:29.800
<v Speaker 4>One of the reasons why Michael Aquino was so protected

702
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:32.800
<v Speaker 4>by the US Army and so integral to their work

703
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:36.000
<v Speaker 4>was his book Mind War, and Mind War was part

704
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:40.480
<v Speaker 4>of the army curriculum about how to engage in psyops,

705
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:43.920
<v Speaker 4>and so he was so influential because of the fact

706
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:48.360
<v Speaker 4>that he had the experimental knowledge to sort of transfer

707
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:52.199
<v Speaker 4>all of this child abuse into working propaganda techniques. And

708
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:54.519
<v Speaker 4>he claimed it was a way to put an end

709
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:57.360
<v Speaker 4>to war, and he was doing it peacefully, but really

710
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:01.639
<v Speaker 4>what he wanted to do is to you who's basically

711
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:06.000
<v Speaker 4>wind ups and children that had been abused as a

712
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:09.559
<v Speaker 4>method of assassination, and all the rest of the stuff

713
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:12.920
<v Speaker 4>that the NATO forces and everybody else can now use

714
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:16.639
<v Speaker 4>in times of great civil strife to try and push

715
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 4>these societies into either civil war or regime change or

716
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:23.440
<v Speaker 4>any of the rest of the stuff that would be

717
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:24.480
<v Speaker 4>useful around the world.

718
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:34.719
<v Speaker 3>Mh, I'm going to go to the next one unless

719
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:39.679
<v Speaker 3>you guys are okay. So it kind of dove taels

720
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:47.679
<v Speaker 3>with the Presidio Michael Akino stuff, because in another part

721
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:54.639
<v Speaker 3>of California there is this McMartin preschool trial thing, and

722
00:41:55.159 --> 00:42:00.880
<v Speaker 3>it's just like the Presidio daycare. These kids are coming home,

723
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:05.719
<v Speaker 3>preschool aged children coming home and telling their parents that

724
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:10.880
<v Speaker 3>they're getting touched, that their stuff going on. And one

725
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:15.480
<v Speaker 3>of the first parents, gosh, I'm forgetting her name, Judy Johnson,

726
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:19.000
<v Speaker 3>I think is her name. She was the first parent

727
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:21.880
<v Speaker 3>of one of these kids to step forward and say

728
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:24.039
<v Speaker 3>that I think there's something going on here. My kid

729
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:27.159
<v Speaker 3>is saying this stuff. And she took him to like

730
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:31.000
<v Speaker 3>a primary care physician or a PEDS doctor whatever, and

731
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:34.239
<v Speaker 3>they did a bunch of tests on him, and there's

732
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:36.719
<v Speaker 3>one test. I'm not making this up. It's called the

733
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:42.320
<v Speaker 3>anal Wink test, and they do it on kids or

734
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.239
<v Speaker 3>whoever as part of like almost like a rape kit

735
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:51.159
<v Speaker 3>type thing. And these kids are showing clear and evident

736
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:56.480
<v Speaker 3>signs of being sexually abused, and they're talking about getting

737
00:42:56.519 --> 00:43:00.559
<v Speaker 3>taken under the school in tunnels, and and you know,

738
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:05.119
<v Speaker 3>it's getting crazy, and so this whole trial gets started up.

739
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.519
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember the number of kids, but I think

740
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:12.679
<v Speaker 3>it was like over fifty, maybe one hundred kids. Parents

741
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:18.159
<v Speaker 3>are part of this trial, and they hire like this

742
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:23.840
<v Speaker 3>court appointed psychiatrist to talk to all these kids and

743
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:27.280
<v Speaker 3>verify their claims. And they talk to all the kids.

744
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:29.920
<v Speaker 3>They come back and they say, you know what, we

745
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:34.199
<v Speaker 3>think these one hundred and twenty six point two children

746
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:43.000
<v Speaker 3>are all suffering from false memory syndrome. And they've been

747
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:49.960
<v Speaker 3>all convinced that this is reality, but it's just a

748
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:55.800
<v Speaker 3>dream and they're all having false memory syndrome. I mean,

749
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:57.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what you guys have to say about that,

750
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:04.159
<v Speaker 3>but imagine your kid preschool age, coming home, You take

751
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:08.000
<v Speaker 3>them to the doctor, there's like, yep, there's been stuff

752
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:11.480
<v Speaker 3>going on here. And then you go to court. You

753
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.880
<v Speaker 3>get all the way to the trial and they say

754
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:18.519
<v Speaker 3>we're sorry. You and one hundred and twenty six of

755
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:23.719
<v Speaker 3>your kids' friends are all suffering from false memory syndrome.

756
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Like you tell me what preschool age kid knows to

757
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:31.719
<v Speaker 3>put those type of details into a story, and what

758
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:36.079
<v Speaker 3>type of preschool age kid knows about sexual stuff?

759
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:39.480
<v Speaker 12>You know that it definitely insane. Yeah, it's crazy.

760
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:42.320
<v Speaker 6>Would I would be going to jail, Let's put it

761
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:44.079
<v Speaker 6>that way, because I would do something.

762
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:48.679
<v Speaker 3>I should be down there tearing bitch's faces off. Yeah,

763
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:51.960
<v Speaker 3>I would be up if my kids said something like

764
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:54.280
<v Speaker 3>that to me. But I mean, hadless you guys heard

765
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:54.920
<v Speaker 3>of this stuff?

766
00:44:56.119 --> 00:44:57.559
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, oh yeah, I think yeah.

767
00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:58.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean some of the.

768
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 9>I was just gonna say, I mean some of the

769
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:08.519
<v Speaker 9>parents that made enough noise ended up getting taken out,

770
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:08.880
<v Speaker 9>didn't they?

771
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:11.639
<v Speaker 8>Or miss mysterious things happened to some of them.

772
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.599
<v Speaker 3>So that Judy Johnson, the first mom that came forward

773
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:20.760
<v Speaker 3>with her kid. A week before she was set to testify,

774
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:24.519
<v Speaker 3>she showed up in her home dead of what they

775
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:28.920
<v Speaker 3>call a heart attack. And then they were like, well,

776
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:31.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, Judy was a fucking alcoholic, She was a

777
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:34.719
<v Speaker 3>fucking prostitute. She was flashing her shit all around town.

778
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:37.960
<v Speaker 3>None of that shit was true, and she wasn't an alcoholic,

779
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 3>and actually she only had started drinking a little bit

780
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:44.280
<v Speaker 3>here and there after the trial started. I mean, you

781
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:47.679
<v Speaker 3>could imagine you'd want a stiff one, like with all

782
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:50.320
<v Speaker 3>that shit going on, you cannot tell me that makes

783
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:53.960
<v Speaker 3>you an alcoholic. That's it's just ridiculous. They say that

784
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:56.239
<v Speaker 3>she was such an alcoholic that she had a heart

785
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:59.400
<v Speaker 3>attack in her house and just died a week before

786
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:03.440
<v Speaker 3>she supposed to testify it. I mean, come on, guys.

787
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:08.519
<v Speaker 4>Well, the False Memory Syndrome Foundation was started by these

788
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:15.360
<v Speaker 4>abusive parents whose daughter had remembered these memories of being

789
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:18.239
<v Speaker 4>abused as a child and blamed her parents for it.

790
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:21.480
<v Speaker 4>And so not only did you have the False Memory

791
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Syndrome Foundation, which brings up in other angles, the foundations

792
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:31.239
<v Speaker 4>and all these I guess nonprofit organizations have their fingerprints

793
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:34.320
<v Speaker 4>all over this stuff. As soon as something comes up,

794
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:38.360
<v Speaker 4>you get descended upon by all these different organizations that

795
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:42.280
<v Speaker 4>are now there to discredit the children. And what's interesting too,

796
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.159
<v Speaker 4>is not only did you have the False Memory Syndrome Foundation,

797
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:49.000
<v Speaker 4>you also had a psychologist from out in Utah, one

798
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:54.199
<v Speaker 4>of these uh, I guess fixers for the the you know,

799
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:59.039
<v Speaker 4>Utah chapters of these different organizations that was literally implanting

800
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:01.760
<v Speaker 4>memories as well. So you have both sides of the

801
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:06.360
<v Speaker 4>equation being forced on these kids, so that there are

802
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:08.840
<v Speaker 4>some kids with false memories. And then you also have

803
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:13.559
<v Speaker 4>a False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Ralph Underwagger for the False

804
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:16.239
<v Speaker 4>Memory Syndrome Foundation, he was one of the clergy that

805
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:18.760
<v Speaker 4>they would use as sort of their cover was actually

806
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:25.400
<v Speaker 4>hot with child pornography, so the entire organization was completely corrupting. Still,

807
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:29.079
<v Speaker 4>look up the False Memory Syndrome Foundation website where they're

808
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:32.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, basically saying we need to stop these psychologists

809
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:35.599
<v Speaker 4>from implanting memories into our children. Now, if you think

810
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:40.000
<v Speaker 4>about the improbability of having the type of conspiracy that

811
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:43.239
<v Speaker 4>would create these false memories for children, you have to

812
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.360
<v Speaker 4>also understand that, you know, there would be an industry

813
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:50.400
<v Speaker 4>there that would be exploited. So you've got both sides

814
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:53.360
<v Speaker 4>of the coin sort of working together, just obscure and

815
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:57.800
<v Speaker 4>throw much garbage on top of this whole thing, sort

816
00:47:57.840 --> 00:47:59.480
<v Speaker 4>of keep the industry moving.

817
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm, JJ, were you going to say something earlier?

818
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I cut you off or.

819
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Anything, JJ, He might be stuck.

820
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.679
<v Speaker 3>Actually, oh okay, I was gonna say I thought he

821
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:20.559
<v Speaker 3>was going to say something, but maybe he's frozen.

822
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:24.320
<v Speaker 6>The headless. The psychiatrist you were talking about is that

823
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:25.079
<v Speaker 6>Barbara Snow.

824
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:28.199
<v Speaker 4>I forgot her name, but that.

825
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:31.679
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and then.

826
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:36.320
<v Speaker 6>She worked also with that Teal Swan who's like, uh,

827
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:40.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, life guru, Now tell me to just kill

828
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:42.760
<v Speaker 6>yourself so you reincarnate and come back.

829
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:45.639
<v Speaker 3>Your life is ship ah fuck.

830
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:47.320
<v Speaker 12>People have done it.

831
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:51.679
<v Speaker 4>Teal Swat is all over these ads, all over Facebook

832
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:52.599
<v Speaker 4>and Instagram.

833
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:53.719
<v Speaker 12>I'm sure she is.

834
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:59.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, but you know what they did to these cities.

835
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh nope, I'm not gonna cut you off again this time.

836
00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:04.119
<v Speaker 3>You go, Lisa.

837
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:08.880
<v Speaker 10>No, I was gonna mention something about the false mentmory,

838
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:11.599
<v Speaker 10>some false memory syndrome, but I don't know if JJ

839
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:14.639
<v Speaker 10>is going to say something, and so I don't want

840
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:18.760
<v Speaker 10>to take his thunder, So go ahead. I think we're

841
00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:19.920
<v Speaker 10>gonna probably say the same thing.

842
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 12>So I'll let you go.

843
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:23.000
<v Speaker 11>No, no, go go go.

844
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:27.480
<v Speaker 1>No by all means okay.

845
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.960
<v Speaker 10>So, and we've covered this on the Occult Rejects. So

846
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:34.480
<v Speaker 10>and please JJ, please insert because you were on the

847
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.079
<v Speaker 10>show at the same time. So we kind of talked

848
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:42.320
<v Speaker 10>about the psychiatrist Elizabeth Loftis, who is well known for

849
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:47.599
<v Speaker 10>the false memory syndrome. And so Elizabeth Loftis, might I

850
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:50.840
<v Speaker 10>mention got her PhD from Stanford, which we all know

851
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:55.280
<v Speaker 10>that Stanford's very well connected to Esslon all kinds of

852
00:49:56.000 --> 00:50:00.480
<v Speaker 10>think tanks, cults, what have you, right, But she also

853
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:03.519
<v Speaker 10>been you know, somewhat of a consultant on the O. J.

854
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:08.400
<v Speaker 10>Simpson trial, on I think Weinstein's trial, and then believe

855
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:13.760
<v Speaker 10>it was her that was asked for specifically by name

856
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:17.800
<v Speaker 10>by Gailaine Maxwell. The other person that was asked for

857
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:23.519
<v Speaker 10>by Gislaine Maxwell was Park Deets, and Elizabeth Loftis belongs

858
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:25.000
<v Speaker 10>to the firm of park Deats.

859
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:27.400
<v Speaker 11>Park Deats is the.

860
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:31.239
<v Speaker 10>Forensic psychiatrist that was called in for the following trials

861
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:37.719
<v Speaker 10>Robert John Bardow, John W. Hinkley, Betty Brodrick, Jared Lee

862
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:44.280
<v Speaker 10>lot Loffner, and other serial killers like Joel Rifkin, Jeffrey Dahmer,

863
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:46.719
<v Speaker 10>Ted Kaczinski, Richard Kazinski.

864
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:49.000
<v Speaker 11>I don't know the list.

865
00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:51.880
<v Speaker 10>Goes on, but anyway, so it's all connected, yes, to

866
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:53.960
<v Speaker 10>that whole false memory syndrome.

867
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

868
00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:03.280
<v Speaker 4>I have you guys ever heard of this debunker guy

869
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:06.639
<v Speaker 4>from the eighties, the amazing.

870
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:10.159
<v Speaker 1>Randy Oh yeah, what was he?

871
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:13.920
<v Speaker 3>What was he debunking?

872
00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:19.599
<v Speaker 4>Said, debunk psychics, psychic phenomenon or whatever. And so he

873
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:23.480
<v Speaker 4>was a member of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. I

874
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:27.039
<v Speaker 4>think he was a board member. And this guy, uh,

875
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 4>he said, well, he called some teenagers up on the

876
00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:33.079
<v Speaker 4>phone and tried to solicit sex from them, and he

877
00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:36.000
<v Speaker 4>said he was doing it as a sting operation for

878
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:39.280
<v Speaker 4>the False Syndrome Foundation. So it's like you're trying to

879
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:45.360
<v Speaker 4>sting thirteen year old boys into what's.

880
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:44.559
<v Speaker 1>The only research.

881
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:50.440
<v Speaker 4>It's only research, righty.

882
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:55.159
<v Speaker 5>Foundation is deeply rooted in CIA activities and Satanic activities

883
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:58.599
<v Speaker 5>because the head of the Satanic temple, the old boy

884
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:01.280
<v Speaker 5>who goes by the name Lucian Green, he's mister Doug Mushenko.

885
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:06.440
<v Speaker 5>He's a Harvard graduate specializing in false memory syndrome psychology.

886
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.159
<v Speaker 5>And he's also he also runs the process dot org

887
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:14.360
<v Speaker 5>website and very likely the uh satanic element of the

888
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:15.079
<v Speaker 5>process today.

889
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:16.519
<v Speaker 1>But hey, that's a different story together.

890
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:20.360
<v Speaker 5>So it seems like very processed CIA Satanic stuff pushing

891
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.639
<v Speaker 5>these current false memory syndrome aspects today.

892
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:26.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's a very very shady.

893
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:30.440
<v Speaker 11>Element and talking about the false memory. Oh I'm so sorry.

894
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:32.679
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I was just gonna say, yeah, they gotta

895
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:36.079
<v Speaker 3>they gotta get these kids in the fucking cult as

896
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:38.599
<v Speaker 3>soon as they can. Sorry, Lisa, go ahead.

897
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:41.039
<v Speaker 10>No, no, no, that it rings a bell because y'all

898
00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:44.480
<v Speaker 10>did a show last night with the height Idaho four.

899
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:48.599
<v Speaker 10>So Elizabeth Lofts back to the false memory syndrome. She

900
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:52.400
<v Speaker 10>was married to the chief guy for the psychology department

901
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:55.599
<v Speaker 10>at University of Washington, and so she has a lot

902
00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:59.039
<v Speaker 10>of connections to a lot of the forensic psychology whatever

903
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:03.920
<v Speaker 10>that Whenever these huge cases, you know, start getting huge coverage,

904
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:07.159
<v Speaker 10>these people are somewhere in the background of it all,

905
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:11.119
<v Speaker 10>at least the departments or people that are consulting or

906
00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:13.760
<v Speaker 10>anything like that. Now we have the guy who's supposed

907
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:18.199
<v Speaker 10>to Coburger has been implicated he was a student there

908
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:23.159
<v Speaker 10>at the psychology department. Correct forensic psychology department, Sure, absolutely,

909
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:24.679
<v Speaker 10>yep or whatever.

910
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is strange.

911
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:29.000
<v Speaker 5>And there's a lot of weird fundings speaking of kind

912
00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:31.119
<v Speaker 5>of CIA kind of funding to those schools. I mean,

913
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:33.639
<v Speaker 5>I often assert the Air Force, the CIA, and NASA

914
00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:36.960
<v Speaker 5>are the same organization because I just used to manage

915
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:41.119
<v Speaker 5>the budget for Air Force cops, you know, headquarters in DC,

916
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:44.679
<v Speaker 5>and I kind of came to these conclusions through budgetary meetings,

917
00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:47.280
<v Speaker 5>but because they're also created by the same legislation, the

918
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:50.719
<v Speaker 5>National Security Act of nineteen forty seven, and weirdly enough,

919
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:54.960
<v Speaker 5>University of Washington University or Washington State University there in

920
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:58.079
<v Speaker 5>the University of Idaho get weird NASA funding if some

921
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:01.519
<v Speaker 5>strange NASA research programs there, which to me is again

922
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:04.480
<v Speaker 5>just the CIA. So I often wonder I had no

923
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:06.480
<v Speaker 5>idea off to say connections there. That's interesting.

924
00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:12.199
<v Speaker 2>I still think Colburg is a SiO.

925
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:16.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, look, it's certainly I see I saw some more

926
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:18.039
<v Speaker 5>comments about that from our show.

927
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't say about those. I still think something.

928
00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:25.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, there was never any bodies taking scene taken

929
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:26.719
<v Speaker 5>out of the house, so I mean there is an

930
00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:27.639
<v Speaker 5>argument to be made.

931
00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:31.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it's uh. I think Colburg is running like

932
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:35.039
<v Speaker 2>a show and then collecting.

933
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:37.679
<v Speaker 1>Tracking it all. That's right.

934
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:40.840
<v Speaker 5>Look, it's twenty twenty five. All bets are off, so

935
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:43.679
<v Speaker 5>we're passing me in World twenty twenty four. That certainly

936
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:45.559
<v Speaker 5>could be going on. I wouldn't I wouldn't rull it

937
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:49.800
<v Speaker 5>out I don't know why. It's not a bad idea,

938
00:54:49.800 --> 00:54:52.840
<v Speaker 5>and that's exactly what he was focused on, right, analyzing

939
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:55.039
<v Speaker 5>the psychology of criminals and crime.

940
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:00.760
<v Speaker 2>All right, you want to go on to uh, who

941
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:02.440
<v Speaker 2>are we talking about again? Before we got on to

942
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:04.159
<v Speaker 2>co Broker probably.

943
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Said the McMartin false memory syndrome.

944
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:13.440
<v Speaker 5>Stuff in Hollywood's whitewashing the entire subject real quick with

945
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:18.440
<v Speaker 5>James Woods, mister right, twixter hero didn't start in the

946
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:19.239
<v Speaker 5>whitewashing of that.

947
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it was Oliver Stone.

948
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.920
<v Speaker 5>I think Oliver Stone directed it and James Wood start

949
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:28.679
<v Speaker 5>in it, and they completely actually are subjects.

950
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:31.679
<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen it, but I will tell you if

951
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:36.360
<v Speaker 3>you look at the Wikipedia for the McMartin preschool trials,

952
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:40.760
<v Speaker 3>it's nothing. Even if they they're like, oh well, you

953
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:46.480
<v Speaker 3>know that basically the parents didn't win against mc martin.

954
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:49.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, so no justice. None of these kids got

955
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:53.719
<v Speaker 3>any justice. And you know, if you look at the Wikipedia,

956
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:55.920
<v Speaker 3>it's like they didn't win the trial. So nothing to

957
00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:59.760
<v Speaker 3>see here, folks, look away, look away, you know, let's

958
00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:03.320
<v Speaker 3>part and that this didn't even happen. They used like

959
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:07.960
<v Speaker 3>some kind of ground penetrating radar later over the school

960
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:12.519
<v Speaker 3>grounds and they found collapse tunnels under the school and

961
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:18.360
<v Speaker 3>I think one person, independent researcher or independent investigator something

962
00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:21.199
<v Speaker 3>dug down there and found like a Mickey Mouse lunch

963
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:25.679
<v Speaker 3>bag down in the collapse tunnels and shit. So it's

964
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:28.760
<v Speaker 3>like the kids, where how do you justify the false

965
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:32.480
<v Speaker 3>memory syndrome? Now there's actually fucking tunnels and actually fucking

966
00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Mickey Mouse fucking lunch boxes down there.

967
00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:41.239
<v Speaker 12>So it sounds like the Brooklyn Synagogue. Oh no, it.

968
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't when we brought when we talked about Barbara Snow,

969
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:46.599
<v Speaker 2>wasn't there also in some way she attached to Mormons.

970
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't that one of the reasons why she was brought up,

971
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:51.440
<v Speaker 2>like to the like the Elders of Zion or some

972
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:53.960
<v Speaker 2>shit like that, which was like some Mormon stuff.

973
00:56:54.760 --> 00:56:56.960
<v Speaker 11>There we go with the Elders of Zion again some.

974
00:56:56.760 --> 00:56:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Some stuff there was something like that with the Zion.

975
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:01.559
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember remember, but I do know that when

976
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:04.239
<v Speaker 2>she's been brought up twice on the Occult Rejects, one

977
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:06.480
<v Speaker 2>time it was because I was covering Mormons.

978
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:12.920
<v Speaker 3>So because of the the old Warren Jeff's thing like

979
00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:15.599
<v Speaker 3>the Zion. Isn't that what he called it.

980
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:17.639
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember. It was like a rabbit hole. It

981
00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:19.360
<v Speaker 2>was kind of like a thing that came off of

982
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:20.920
<v Speaker 2>like a topic, and it was just like, oh yeah,

983
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:21.360
<v Speaker 2>and somehow it.

984
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Can believe be leave it, victims belave it.

985
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it might have been that. Yeah.

986
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:27.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

987
00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:29.800
<v Speaker 5>When boy had to go take that press conference and

988
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:32.519
<v Speaker 5>say he wasn't a cannibal and his wife didn't diddle

989
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:36.320
<v Speaker 5>kids and they didn't need kids, David leave it well.

990
00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Didn't like he telling himself. He said the police are

991
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:41.639
<v Speaker 2>investigating him, and they're like, well, I actually we weren't

992
00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:43.079
<v Speaker 2>until you just said all that.

993
00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:46.559
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, and asked the questions like I don't need kids,

994
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:47.800
<v Speaker 5>and they're like, whoa, what's the weird thing?

995
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:53.400
<v Speaker 3>That's oddly specific?

996
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was weird. Yeah. Yeah, it's like he rad

997
00:57:56.440 --> 00:57:57.159
<v Speaker 2>it on himself.

998
00:57:58.440 --> 00:57:59.239
<v Speaker 1>He did for sure.

999
00:57:59.280 --> 00:58:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, why would you say that? Of all

1000
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:05.079
<v Speaker 3>the things, just like I don't need asparagus? Okay, neither

1001
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:08.199
<v Speaker 3>to rye, but no, I don't need kids. That's what

1002
00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:11.840
<v Speaker 3>you went with. That's gonna suck. You totally sold me

1003
00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:15.280
<v Speaker 3>on it. You don't need kids, got it.

1004
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:18.639
<v Speaker 2>Funny thing is that could be some slime bowl way

1005
00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:21.920
<v Speaker 2>that he got like like maybe some of the police

1006
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:24.199
<v Speaker 2>force tipped them off and said, oh, they're going to

1007
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:25.840
<v Speaker 2>charge you. So then he comes out and says that

1008
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:28.679
<v Speaker 2>ship and then like, oh, well there's a probable cause,

1009
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:33.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, saying like they could control them into doing that,

1010
00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and that gave them a reason to actually look into them,

1011
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:39.039
<v Speaker 2>because I mean, they do she like the criminals. I

1012
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:41.039
<v Speaker 2>mean they you know, I could see them doing that

1013
00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:43.199
<v Speaker 2>to their own Well.

1014
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:46.519
<v Speaker 4>I think what's interesting is that Utah is not only

1015
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:48.519
<v Speaker 4>the home of the Mormons, but it's also the home

1016
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:54.719
<v Speaker 4>of a really vibrant new age scene. And new Age

1017
00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:58.800
<v Speaker 4>scene is that that's basically the release valve for the Mormons.

1018
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:00.920
<v Speaker 4>So as soon as you run away from the Mormon

1019
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:03.800
<v Speaker 4>temple and you lose all your family and stuff, you've

1020
00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:07.360
<v Speaker 4>got these Mormon controlled new Agers right there with open arms,

1021
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:10.199
<v Speaker 4>ready to take you back into a new colt. So

1022
00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:14.239
<v Speaker 4>they opened both sides of this equation. And I think

1023
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:17.119
<v Speaker 4>that really is symbolic of how most of these things

1024
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:20.519
<v Speaker 4>are managed. Is that you've got the false memory syndrome foundation,

1025
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:22.920
<v Speaker 4>and then you've got the new Agers that are implanting

1026
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:26.800
<v Speaker 4>false memories. So at the intersection between the two, you

1027
00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:29.199
<v Speaker 4>can just see that. It's nothing but confusion, which is

1028
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:31.840
<v Speaker 4>a really processed thing to do. You've got the you know,

1029
00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:34.280
<v Speaker 4>the Jesus side of the processed church and the devil

1030
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:35.559
<v Speaker 4>side of the processed church.

1031
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:38.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's Oh. I think the way Barbara Snow was

1032
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:40.599
<v Speaker 2>connected is that they were saying that she was putting

1033
00:59:40.639 --> 00:59:43.880
<v Speaker 2>false memories of child Boless station into Mormon kids heads.

1034
00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Right into Mormon kids.

1035
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were saying all they really weren't touched. She

1036
00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:50.239
<v Speaker 2>put these things into their heads.

1037
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:56.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. If I've watched one documentary on Warren Jeff's,

1038
00:59:56.119 --> 00:59:59.199
<v Speaker 3>I've watched a fucking thousand of them, and that piece

1039
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:04.960
<v Speaker 3>is shit. Ass motherfucker was fucking doing all kinds of stuff.

1040
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:09.320
<v Speaker 3>There's no way they have false memory anything. Did you

1041
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:13.800
<v Speaker 3>see his face. He looks like the end of a cigarette.

1042
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:20.119
<v Speaker 3>He looks like a cigarette. He's disgusting. Okay, there's no

1043
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:26.519
<v Speaker 3>like if you looked up just everyone in your mind,

1044
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:30.360
<v Speaker 3>just imagine you're opening a dictionary and you're flipping to

1045
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:35.400
<v Speaker 3>the word pedophile. Is a fucking picture of Lauren Jeff's Like,

1046
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:42.599
<v Speaker 3>that is what I imagine a greasy, skinny, weird, disgusting, lyntic,

1047
01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:48.039
<v Speaker 3>but The crazy thing is, though, most of these pedophiles

1048
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:52.400
<v Speaker 3>are like people you wouldn't even ever imagine, and that's

1049
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:56.000
<v Speaker 3>how they get away with it for so long. Politicians, celebrities,

1050
01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:59.519
<v Speaker 3>people you love, people you look up to, people you idolize.

1051
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:02.920
<v Speaker 3>They all end up being parts of this shit. Even

1052
01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:06.880
<v Speaker 3>your kids preschool teachers are part of it. I mean,

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01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:12.679
<v Speaker 3>think of that scary because you know, you always look

1054
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:16.840
<v Speaker 3>for like the monster with like the drool like dripping

1055
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:21.000
<v Speaker 3>from their things, but it's usually your kid's preschool teacher.

1056
01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:25.159
<v Speaker 3>And so one of the last things I had down

1057
01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:27.000
<v Speaker 3>in my notes that I wanted to talk to you

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01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:32.480
<v Speaker 3>guys about was something called the Country Walk Babysitting Service.

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01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:34.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you guys are familiar with this

1060
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:35.119
<v Speaker 3>at all.

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01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:40.280
<v Speaker 2>No, this is news to me. Nope, the first time on.

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01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:45.159
<v Speaker 6>Right.

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01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:49.519
<v Speaker 7>Okay, well, somebody knows, Hey, we're doing all right as

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01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:52.239
<v Speaker 7>a society as long as one other person besides me

1065
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:58.639
<v Speaker 7>knows about, which.

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01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:02.079
<v Speaker 8>Is business right Regiservice Disney.

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01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:06.239
<v Speaker 3>So there was this guy's name is Frank Fuster. Anybody

1068
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:09.159
<v Speaker 3>can look this shit up, and there's receipts in program

1069
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:12.239
<v Speaker 3>to kill on all this stuff. He was running a

1070
01:02:12.360 --> 01:02:16.239
<v Speaker 3>babysitting service with his wife out of his home in Florida.

1071
01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:21.320
<v Speaker 3>He was a twice convicted either raper or molester of

1072
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:24.880
<v Speaker 3>some kind, and he was let out early on some

1073
01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:29.519
<v Speaker 3>kind of parole and decided to open this Country Walk

1074
01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:32.480
<v Speaker 3>babysitting service out of his house with his wife. Like

1075
01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:36.960
<v Speaker 3>I said, but it's like, is there no papers? You

1076
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:39.559
<v Speaker 3>got a file to get some type of a like

1077
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:42.519
<v Speaker 3>I work from home thing, and like I have a

1078
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:44.920
<v Speaker 3>company out of my house. Like who's letting this guy

1079
01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:50.159
<v Speaker 3>who's been convicted twice and on parole of similar crimes

1080
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:55.280
<v Speaker 3>around children, Like who's doing this? But I guess everything's fine.

1081
01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:58.599
<v Speaker 3>And he gets his license to open up this babysitting service,

1082
01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:04.000
<v Speaker 3>and guess what. The kids are coming home talking about

1083
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:07.639
<v Speaker 3>how they have to cut cat's heads off, and how

1084
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:12.400
<v Speaker 3>they're watching snuff films and how they're taking a pink

1085
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:17.119
<v Speaker 3>drink like fucking Starbucks shit and fucking falling asleep and

1086
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:24.719
<v Speaker 3>all this stuff is happening to them, and the parents,

1087
01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:27.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, try to sue or whatever. They don't get

1088
01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:31.079
<v Speaker 3>very far. And it comes out later that this Frank Foster.

1089
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:34.880
<v Speaker 3>The Country Walk baby sitting Service is a subsidiary of

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01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Walt Disney company. And so this guy who's been twice

1091
01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:44.960
<v Speaker 3>convicted of similar crimes and is now raping and pedophiling

1092
01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:51.119
<v Speaker 3>his way through neighborhood kids is an employee of Walt Disney. Essentially.

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01:03:53.480 --> 01:03:58.400
<v Speaker 11>Wow, So I mean it's again Walt Disney.

1094
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, you want to talk about some fucking raping, pedophiling

1095
01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:08.920
<v Speaker 3>weird shit there. I mean, I've covered Disney almost that nauseum.

1096
01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:12.480
<v Speaker 3>But he was, you know, involved with all those weird

1097
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:19.679
<v Speaker 3>secret Germans and shit and fucking NASA stuff. And it's

1098
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:23.480
<v Speaker 3>like the list of pedophiles in program to kill us

1099
01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:25.599
<v Speaker 3>so long. If I went through all of them, we'd

1100
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:27.880
<v Speaker 3>have to be here for six more hours. But I

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01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:32.119
<v Speaker 3>don't think Disney was mentioned specifically, but Lewis Carroll was,

1102
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:37.880
<v Speaker 3>and you know, Lewis Carroll's real name is Charles Dodgeson,

1103
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:47.320
<v Speaker 3>and he was, you know, very influential to the pedophile crowd.

1104
01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:51.159
<v Speaker 3>And he used to take pictures of naked children and

1105
01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:54.480
<v Speaker 3>say that he was just studying them, and people were

1106
01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:58.639
<v Speaker 3>grossed out by it, so he started sketching them, and

1107
01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:03.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, he he's got all this stuff. Thank you, Suzanne,

1108
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:10.840
<v Speaker 3>I fucking appreciate that. But you know, he's got all

1109
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:14.199
<v Speaker 3>this stuff. This with the girl that was the inspiration

1110
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:17.400
<v Speaker 3>for Alice in Wonderland. The real little girl's name was

1111
01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:23.639
<v Speaker 3>Alice Little And before the book even dropped, Lewis Carroll

1112
01:05:23.719 --> 01:05:27.079
<v Speaker 3>had been banned from the residents forever coming back there

1113
01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:30.840
<v Speaker 3>or being there near the children again. So you know,

1114
01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:33.239
<v Speaker 3>he clearly had some weird shit going on. I think

1115
01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:37.280
<v Speaker 3>if you really read the Walrus and the Carpenter poem,

1116
01:05:37.960 --> 01:05:42.920
<v Speaker 3>it's it's dank with suggestions about pedophilia. I mean, Lisa,

1117
01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:44.599
<v Speaker 3>you're shaking your head. I'm sure you know what I'm

1118
01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:45.119
<v Speaker 3>talking about.

1119
01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:47.639
<v Speaker 10>Nick and I have gone back and forth with the

1120
01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:52.039
<v Speaker 10>Lewis Carroll thing because he was a huge proponent of

1121
01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:55.559
<v Speaker 10>mirrorscript so he wrote a lot of things backwards because

1122
01:05:55.599 --> 01:06:00.000
<v Speaker 10>he had the iowass condition of like seeing things backwards

1123
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:02.920
<v Speaker 10>or he would, you know, have that whole imaging thing,

1124
01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:06.159
<v Speaker 10>and that's where he gets the whole premise for doing

1125
01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:11.119
<v Speaker 10>things backwards in Alice in Wonderland. And there is speculation

1126
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:14.119
<v Speaker 10>that he may have been keeping the company of certain

1127
01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:18.480
<v Speaker 10>occultists at the time. Whenever he was he was a

1128
01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:23.960
<v Speaker 10>quote unquote brilliant mathematician. He was very well respected in

1129
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:29.400
<v Speaker 10>the academic setting, so to speak, which kind of brings

1130
01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:33.159
<v Speaker 10>it all back to when we talk about academics. We

1131
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:37.679
<v Speaker 10>talk about Robert Maxwell, who was Gilamed Mactwell's dad, and

1132
01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:41.159
<v Speaker 10>how he had all of these academics under his umbrella

1133
01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:43.920
<v Speaker 10>as well, and we're talking about, you know, all kinds

1134
01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:46.639
<v Speaker 10>of scientists, and then we get the connection of scientists

1135
01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:54.639
<v Speaker 10>to pedophilia, scientists to mental manipulation, brain type of experimentation,

1136
01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:58.159
<v Speaker 10>and so to speak. But yes, Lewis Carroll and most

1137
01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:01.480
<v Speaker 10>of his poetry has kind of been censored from what

1138
01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:06.360
<v Speaker 10>I understand because of it. It's not very pretty.

1139
01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:10.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, it's fucked up, is what it is.

1140
01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:11.880
<v Speaker 3>I think, Nick, go ahead.

1141
01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:16.119
<v Speaker 2>I do think Crowley ripped him off. He's another person

1142
01:07:16.119 --> 01:07:19.119
<v Speaker 2>that I think Crawley ripped off and reused for you know,

1143
01:07:19.159 --> 01:07:21.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean you could even say maybe some of his

1144
01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:26.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, creepy, perverted style shit could even be somewhere

1145
01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:29.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of like from Lewis Carrow. But I even think

1146
01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:31.840
<v Speaker 2>the Iowas I think that's I think he's I think

1147
01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:35.039
<v Speaker 2>he ripped off Iowas from Lewis cow Yeah.

1148
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:35.440
<v Speaker 11>Because that's the name.

1149
01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:38.599
<v Speaker 3>Louis Carroll is is so interesting to me too. Sorry,

1150
01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:39.599
<v Speaker 3>go ahead, Lisa.

1151
01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:42.480
<v Speaker 10>No, no, no, I was just reiterating what Nick was saying,

1152
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:46.440
<v Speaker 10>is that the actual syndrome is called Alice in Wonderland syndrome.

1153
01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:50.440
<v Speaker 10>And yeah, it's Iowas. You go to Crowley and he

1154
01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:53.519
<v Speaker 10>got all of his divination from a guy or a

1155
01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:55.559
<v Speaker 10>spirit named Iowas.

1156
01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:56.039
<v Speaker 8>Right.

1157
01:07:56.320 --> 01:07:58.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's crazy. I didn't know that shit. I knew

1158
01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:01.519
<v Speaker 3>about the Alice in Wonderlands. And though because I did

1159
01:08:01.840 --> 01:08:05.320
<v Speaker 3>like a thing about Disney, I think I don't know

1160
01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:08.119
<v Speaker 3>who I was talked to. But that's crazy, Like the

1161
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:11.320
<v Speaker 3>there's an actual condition you can have called alics in

1162
01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:15.400
<v Speaker 3>Wonderland syndrome, and it's it's interesting to me that a

1163
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:21.079
<v Speaker 3>Disney wanted to produce Alice in Wonderland. You know, John

1164
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:23.479
<v Speaker 3>Lennon was obsessed with the guy. He had a fucking

1165
01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:30.199
<v Speaker 3>stiff one for fucking Lewis Carroll. And John Lennon said

1166
01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:34.479
<v Speaker 3>that if he ever had the chance, he would have

1167
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:41.880
<v Speaker 3>been incestuous with his mother. So that's that's, you know,

1168
01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:45.439
<v Speaker 3>to take that for what it's worth. But these people

1169
01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:48.720
<v Speaker 3>who become obsessed with Louis Carroll are into some weird shit.

1170
01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:53.560
<v Speaker 3>And you know, Johnny Depp was in like the live

1171
01:08:53.640 --> 01:08:57.319
<v Speaker 3>action when that's perfect role for fucking his ass. And

1172
01:08:57.479 --> 01:09:00.680
<v Speaker 3>so if you look at the Alice in Wonderlan and

1173
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:03.520
<v Speaker 3>actually before I forget, I just have to say this.

1174
01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:08.359
<v Speaker 3>When John Beney died, which is another episode, Nick, you

1175
01:09:08.359 --> 01:09:11.760
<v Speaker 3>already know this, but when John Beney died, there was

1176
01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:14.399
<v Speaker 3>these things that broke out in the nineties called the

1177
01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:19.319
<v Speaker 3>Wonderland Raids and they were going after pedophiles and they

1178
01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:21.920
<v Speaker 3>called them the Wonderland Raids. So I mean, like this

1179
01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:25.720
<v Speaker 3>whole tie in with Lewis Carroll, it's very I mean,

1180
01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:27.359
<v Speaker 3>it's crazy.

1181
01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:29.840
<v Speaker 2>One thing I want to mention too, just real quick

1182
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:35.199
<v Speaker 2>that I remember just now when we call it covered

1183
01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:38.760
<v Speaker 2>the Fellowship of Friends. That's another old one that was

1184
01:09:38.760 --> 01:09:41.039
<v Speaker 2>when Lux was on the show. And I highly suggest

1185
01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:43.119
<v Speaker 2>people to go check that one out who were kind

1186
01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:45.479
<v Speaker 2>of new listeners. It's an old show, but it's really

1187
01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:49.039
<v Speaker 2>interesting cult that we covered. It's called the Fellowship of Friends,

1188
01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:51.279
<v Speaker 2>and we showed how there was a connection to them

1189
01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:54.319
<v Speaker 2>owning some like it was almost like a kid's type

1190
01:09:54.359 --> 01:09:58.119
<v Speaker 2>of pod school and it was called Lewis Carroll School.

1191
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:01.840
<v Speaker 2>We were like, yo, that's a little weird.

1192
01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:03.920
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty creepy.

1193
01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:04.640
<v Speaker 2>It was.

1194
01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:07.079
<v Speaker 5>Carol definitely hung around with a lot of other pedophiles too,

1195
01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:10.279
<v Speaker 5>like uh, roll Doll, the author Roll Doll.

1196
01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:13.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, Willie won't control of the chocolate factory.

1197
01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:16.079
<v Speaker 3>Pedophile too.

1198
01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:19.680
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, and that story he has the kids eat

1199
01:10:19.720 --> 01:10:22.640
<v Speaker 5>the snosberries and in the in the Wonkle factory. Right

1200
01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:26.359
<v Speaker 5>in one of these books he describes he describes Snosberry's

1201
01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:27.319
<v Speaker 5>as being dicks.

1202
01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:31.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, damn.

1203
01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Fun doesn't even really try to hide it.

1204
01:10:34.600 --> 01:10:36.159
<v Speaker 12>Did he witches too.

1205
01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:40.880
<v Speaker 3>By j by the way, fucking asshole?

1206
01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:44.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, man Disney.

1207
01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:48.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And honestly, that book is creepy as fuck, which

1208
01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:49.760
<v Speaker 6>is I'm just saying.

1209
01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:52.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, you know, Johnny Depp's got ties to

1210
01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:55.720
<v Speaker 3>all these fucking weirdos, fucking Marilyn Manson and ship.

1211
01:10:56.960 --> 01:10:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

1212
01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:01.600
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think I think the real innovation behind Lewis

1213
01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:04.159
<v Speaker 4>Carroll and the and the children's books that are like

1214
01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:08.239
<v Speaker 4>that is that it creates this liminal space between what

1215
01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:12.840
<v Speaker 4>is understandable and what makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. And

1216
01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:15.399
<v Speaker 4>so what what it does is it creates a patterning

1217
01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:19.119
<v Speaker 4>in the kid's mind that there's a place that they

1218
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:22.640
<v Speaker 4>might end up where they don't understand anything, and if

1219
01:11:22.640 --> 01:11:25.239
<v Speaker 4>they just play along that they can get out of it.

1220
01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:27.079
<v Speaker 4>And if you if you look at like the Mad

1221
01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:29.920
<v Speaker 4>Hatter and all these other things, these are not you know,

1222
01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:34.000
<v Speaker 4>stable people, which would you know, be representative of all

1223
01:11:34.119 --> 01:11:36.800
<v Speaker 4>of the pedophiles that they might come into contact with.

1224
01:11:37.399 --> 01:11:41.439
<v Speaker 4>And everybody is off. Everybody has something strange about them.

1225
01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:45.520
<v Speaker 4>Everybody has something that makes them unique and interesting and weird.

1226
01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:50.479
<v Speaker 4>And in showing these kids these these patterns, you can

1227
01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:52.960
<v Speaker 4>actually use this as sort of like a background trigger.

1228
01:11:53.319 --> 01:11:56.720
<v Speaker 4>So if if something's going on that the kid doesn't understand,

1229
01:11:57.039 --> 01:12:00.279
<v Speaker 4>they go back into the into the rabbit hole, you know,

1230
01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:03.600
<v Speaker 4>and they're not really in that sort of conscious frame

1231
01:12:03.640 --> 01:12:06.600
<v Speaker 4>of mind that would normally give them the ability to,

1232
01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:09.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, say, you know, enough is enough. So if

1233
01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:12.439
<v Speaker 4>that's if that's the pattern, you can look at stories

1234
01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:15.159
<v Speaker 4>like Pinocchio and all these other ones where it sort

1235
01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:17.600
<v Speaker 4>of takes them outside of the norm and puts them

1236
01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:21.439
<v Speaker 4>into a thoroughly confusing place and then somehow at the

1237
01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:24.199
<v Speaker 4>end of it they can come back into reality to

1238
01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:27.479
<v Speaker 4>make it sort of obscure from anybody else who would

1239
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:29.840
<v Speaker 4>be looking into the patterns of abuse.

1240
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:34.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you hit it right on because I've done

1241
01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:38.520
<v Speaker 3>a lot of research on SRA. I got a friend

1242
01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:43.000
<v Speaker 3>in podcasting. His name is Sean McCann. Sure you guys

1243
01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:45.560
<v Speaker 3>know who he is. He has to Wake the Dead podcast.

1244
01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:51.560
<v Speaker 3>He does a lot of research into SRA. And the

1245
01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:56.159
<v Speaker 3>thing is they use movies like Alice in Wonderland. I

1246
01:12:56.199 --> 01:13:00.399
<v Speaker 3>think the og in my opinion is the Wizard of Oz,

1247
01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:08.159
<v Speaker 3>But they use films like this to trigger dissociative states

1248
01:13:08.199 --> 01:13:15.439
<v Speaker 3>in children as they're going through serious trauma, usually sexual trauma,

1249
01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:20.920
<v Speaker 3>so they almost send the kid down the rabbit hole.

1250
01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:25.439
<v Speaker 3>That's like the dissociative state like Paul Banasi talks about,

1251
01:13:25.479 --> 01:13:30.039
<v Speaker 3>and a lot of these survivors talk about, is basically like,

1252
01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:34.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, you have a trigger in some type of

1253
01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:37.880
<v Speaker 3>phrase something like that, and you go to this disassociative state.

1254
01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:40.319
<v Speaker 3>But in order to do that, you have to go

1255
01:13:40.399 --> 01:13:44.520
<v Speaker 3>through pretty serious trauma. And I mean Paul Banasi had

1256
01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:47.319
<v Speaker 3>like fucking I don't even know how many personalities, like

1257
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:50.119
<v Speaker 3>twenty or something like that, So you can imagine what

1258
01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:52.840
<v Speaker 3>they would have to do to a person to get

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01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:58.840
<v Speaker 3>twenty alter personalities into one person. You know, and there's

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01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:03.720
<v Speaker 3>even people who have come out and said, like, Barbie

1261
01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:07.039
<v Speaker 3>dolls have played a really big role in traumatizing and

1262
01:14:07.119 --> 01:14:12.159
<v Speaker 3>disassociating girls because they take a Barbie doll, which is

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01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:15.239
<v Speaker 3>a whole other episode in and of itself, but they

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01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:19.199
<v Speaker 3>take like a Barbie and they're like, you're not Teresa tonight,

1265
01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:23.279
<v Speaker 3>you're Britney, and you know, it's like a trigger for them,

1266
01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:27.479
<v Speaker 3>and they go to somewhere else and then Britney comes

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01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:32.000
<v Speaker 3>out and gets raped and then you know, Teresa comes

1268
01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:35.119
<v Speaker 3>back later and has no idea what happened. That's the

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01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:37.840
<v Speaker 3>type of shit that they do. That's what they work on.

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01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:43.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't think you know, the mind control aspect of

1271
01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:47.000
<v Speaker 3>it and the personality aspect of it. It's hard for

1272
01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:49.439
<v Speaker 3>some people to believe, but they probably have it down

1273
01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:51.920
<v Speaker 3>to a science and it probably didn't take them that

1274
01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:54.439
<v Speaker 3>long to figure it out. And now it's just a process.

1275
01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:57.439
<v Speaker 3>It's like we're getting at a factory pumping out fucking

1276
01:14:58.439 --> 01:15:02.880
<v Speaker 3>you know whatever. So like they just bring the kids in,

1277
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:06.960
<v Speaker 3>they do this to them next. It's a process and

1278
01:15:07.039 --> 01:15:10.279
<v Speaker 3>they have it down to a science, like it's easy

1279
01:15:10.279 --> 01:15:13.119
<v Speaker 3>to do this at this point, what do you guys think.

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01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:17.760
<v Speaker 1>It might be? The process oh right, right process.

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01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:23.039
<v Speaker 4>In my opinion, I've had some I've had friends who

1282
01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:25.680
<v Speaker 4>have had d I D before, and what ends up

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01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:30.199
<v Speaker 4>happening is you'll have a single traumatizing event that the

1284
01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:33.079
<v Speaker 4>kid cannot come to grips to, and so as a

1285
01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:37.960
<v Speaker 4>self defense mechanism, the mind splits off and creates another

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01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:43.319
<v Speaker 4>sort of personality that will protect that original personality from

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01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:47.359
<v Speaker 4>anybody harming it again. Because at the very core of

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01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:51.840
<v Speaker 4>this whole thing is the idea that the mind will

1289
01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:56.880
<v Speaker 4>protect the ego that started and it'll do so by

1290
01:15:57.319 --> 01:16:01.760
<v Speaker 4>creating these personalities. So Paul Bonacci, he could still be uh,

1291
01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:05.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, spiraling off these other personalities as a as

1292
01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:10.079
<v Speaker 4>a method of keeping that original safe from anybody harming

1293
01:16:10.119 --> 01:16:13.399
<v Speaker 4>it again. Because the one thing that the mind can

1294
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:15.800
<v Speaker 4>control is the thing that the body can't control, you know,

1295
01:16:16.520 --> 01:16:19.319
<v Speaker 4>if you can control your mind, And that's that's what

1296
01:16:19.359 --> 01:16:21.880
<v Speaker 4>this all goes into. Is if they can create these

1297
01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:27.680
<v Speaker 4>personalities that are hyper reactive and hyper aggressive, then they

1298
01:16:27.680 --> 01:16:32.079
<v Speaker 4>can use those other personalities to then carry out things

1299
01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:34.520
<v Speaker 4>that the normal personality would never dream of.

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01:16:34.479 --> 01:16:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Doing, like a Venturian candidate type ship, right, mm hmmm.

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01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Anything else.

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01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:48.520
<v Speaker 8>That's the whole thing with.

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01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:53.960
<v Speaker 9>Oh go ahead, Mike, I'm just gonna say that's the

1304
01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:56.239
<v Speaker 9>whole thing with the satanism. I mean they might not

1305
01:16:56.319 --> 01:16:59.840
<v Speaker 9>believe it, but why is the intelligence involved in him?

1306
01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:00.640
<v Speaker 8>Does it work?

1307
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Why is it effective?

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01:17:02.279 --> 01:17:07.039
<v Speaker 9>It's because it's so evil, it's so insane that the

1309
01:17:07.159 --> 01:17:11.359
<v Speaker 9>child can't comprehend it. I mean, son cats heads off

1310
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:16.439
<v Speaker 9>is just the beginning. So that's why they do it,

1311
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:19.199
<v Speaker 9>is because it's so terrible and it's so scary that

1312
01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:23.279
<v Speaker 9>the kid will just completely shut off mm hmm.

1313
01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:28.880
<v Speaker 4>And only oh god, it is an exact science, so

1314
01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:32.399
<v Speaker 4>they need a constant stream of victims until they can

1315
01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:35.199
<v Speaker 4>find the kids that can be influenced into creating these

1316
01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:39.319
<v Speaker 4>alternate personalities. So it's it's even sicker when you think

1317
01:17:39.319 --> 01:17:42.199
<v Speaker 4>about the factory level or the industrial level that they're

1318
01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:44.920
<v Speaker 4>doing this child abuse on to try and find one

1319
01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:48.520
<v Speaker 4>or two of these individuals that can then be influenced

1320
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:51.880
<v Speaker 4>to harm other people using these alternate personalities.

1321
01:17:52.560 --> 01:17:59.439
<v Speaker 3>Mmmmm yeah. I mean it's definitely satanic, because I mean,

1322
01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:02.520
<v Speaker 3>if you think it it was, like Mike's saying, I've

1323
01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:07.359
<v Speaker 3>always said, like wherever on the spectrum you are, if

1324
01:18:07.399 --> 01:18:11.920
<v Speaker 3>you're like Christian atheist, agnostic whatever, you have to admit

1325
01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:15.479
<v Speaker 3>that they're doing this shit, and they got to be

1326
01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:18.520
<v Speaker 3>seeing results because they just keep doing it and keep

1327
01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:22.359
<v Speaker 3>doing it and keep doing it into varying degrees of horribleness.

1328
01:18:22.439 --> 01:18:26.840
<v Speaker 3>So I mean, if these satanic rituals are working, which

1329
01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:29.600
<v Speaker 3>they must be because they keep doing them, if there's

1330
01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:32.600
<v Speaker 3>a bad, then there's a good. And that is what

1331
01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:35.000
<v Speaker 3>I always try to remind people about, Like there's some

1332
01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:40.279
<v Speaker 3>really fucked up shit, but at least, thank god, there's

1333
01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:43.520
<v Speaker 3>also a good bite of the world. You know.

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01:18:44.359 --> 01:18:46.439
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well even a lot of exercist did you talk

1335
01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:49.840
<v Speaker 6>about that? Where like that's the moment that sort of

1336
01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:53.960
<v Speaker 6>gives permission for like an entity to enter is like

1337
01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:57.279
<v Speaker 6>through trauma, you know, so that's when you get d

1338
01:18:57.439 --> 01:19:03.880
<v Speaker 6>id bipolar. Like, not all mental illness is actually mental illness.

1339
01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:08.079
<v Speaker 6>This is sometimes a spiritual problem or a trauma based problem, unfortunately.

1340
01:19:08.760 --> 01:19:11.159
<v Speaker 6>So like you know, we all know people who've been

1341
01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:14.199
<v Speaker 6>probably abused in our lives, and it's like that they

1342
01:19:14.199 --> 01:19:16.640
<v Speaker 6>didn't go through a specific program, but that shit still

1343
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:19.840
<v Speaker 6>happened to them, right or even like us just watching

1344
01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:21.840
<v Speaker 6>these films, like even as a kid, I hated The

1345
01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:23.600
<v Speaker 6>Wizard of Us I didn't know why.

1346
01:19:24.119 --> 01:19:26.199
<v Speaker 12>I just really fucking hate that movie.

1347
01:19:26.560 --> 01:19:28.720
<v Speaker 6>But then it's like somebody, some adult, is telling you,

1348
01:19:28.880 --> 01:19:31.479
<v Speaker 6>this is a great movie. You're gonna love it. Sit

1349
01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:34.239
<v Speaker 6>and watch it, and you're like, I feel so uncomfortable

1350
01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:37.079
<v Speaker 6>the entire time, but you're like, this is good for you.

1351
01:19:37.079 --> 01:19:39.479
<v Speaker 6>You're gonna love it. Or read The Witches it's a

1352
01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:43.279
<v Speaker 6>great book. No, actually that book is shitty and it's

1353
01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:44.880
<v Speaker 6>very uncomfortable.

1354
01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:45.720
<v Speaker 12>So it's like you.

1355
01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:49.920
<v Speaker 6>Are already being taught to sit through discomfort and be like, yeah,

1356
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:53.880
<v Speaker 6>that's okay, Like this is good for you, and you're like, so,

1357
01:19:53.960 --> 01:19:59.279
<v Speaker 6>it's like we're all being mildly traumatized, like on a

1358
01:19:59.319 --> 01:20:01.960
<v Speaker 6>mass scale regardless, you know.

1359
01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:08.039
<v Speaker 3>Fucking yeah, or he said one hundred fucking I actually

1360
01:20:09.159 --> 01:20:11.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, And they say, oh, it's for kids. Look,

1361
01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:14.800
<v Speaker 3>it's made just for you. You're gonna love this. It's

1362
01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:18.840
<v Speaker 3>a kids movie. Fucking half of the half of the

1363
01:20:18.920 --> 01:20:22.039
<v Speaker 3>Disney shit is got Like if you watch it as

1364
01:20:22.039 --> 01:20:24.479
<v Speaker 3>an adult, you're like, is this really for fucking kids?

1365
01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:25.119
<v Speaker 12>Yo?

1366
01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:29.039
<v Speaker 6>Well a movie, a movie just came out this Christmas.

1367
01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:32.560
<v Speaker 6>It was all over streaming Deer stand up with Jack Black.

1368
01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh they walk off.

1369
01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:40.399
<v Speaker 6>I watched it by my kids were like my older

1370
01:20:40.439 --> 01:20:42.880
<v Speaker 6>one was like halfway through, He's like, should we really

1371
01:20:42.920 --> 01:20:43.680
<v Speaker 6>be watching this?

1372
01:20:44.399 --> 01:20:47.159
<v Speaker 12>And I was like, no, you can turn it around.

1373
01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:48.760
<v Speaker 12>I was like, this is fucked up.

1374
01:20:49.159 --> 01:20:53.880
<v Speaker 3>It's basically fucking literally Satan literally running around and he's

1375
01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:56.439
<v Speaker 3>like making friends with him, like he's a fucking leprechaun

1376
01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:59.319
<v Speaker 3>or some shit, like, oh, let me take you to school?

1377
01:20:59.399 --> 01:21:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Is show it hell day, everybody. This is my friend

1378
01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:08.520
<v Speaker 3>fucking Satan icondrids. This is what kids are watching. This

1379
01:21:08.680 --> 01:21:10.600
<v Speaker 3>is the kids Christmas maybe.

1380
01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:14.600
<v Speaker 6>Now, Amy say, like a normy family, so like not

1381
01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:16.960
<v Speaker 6>to like put my relatives under the bus, but like

1382
01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:17.960
<v Speaker 6>my sister in law was.

1383
01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:19.800
<v Speaker 12>Like, oh yeah, the kids thought it was so funny,

1384
01:21:19.800 --> 01:21:22.800
<v Speaker 12>it was so cute. And I was like, are you fucked.

1385
01:21:23.199 --> 01:21:25.760
<v Speaker 3>It's the devil. It's literally the.

1386
01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:30.720
<v Speaker 6>This isn't Cutelet's make friends with the devil and like

1387
01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:31.359
<v Speaker 6>he's funny.

1388
01:21:31.399 --> 01:21:33.479
<v Speaker 12>Jack Black guy. You know, I don't know.

1389
01:21:33.560 --> 01:21:36.920
<v Speaker 3>I love Jack Black. I really that he fucking did

1390
01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:42.239
<v Speaker 3>that Ship's ray for God's sake, you know, fucking.

1391
01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:45.880
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, it was weird. Sorry I digress.

1392
01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:48.479
<v Speaker 10>One thing I was going to say, just to insert

1393
01:21:48.479 --> 01:21:51.359
<v Speaker 10>real quick, is that when I went to go do

1394
01:21:51.479 --> 01:21:54.159
<v Speaker 10>a quick study of some of Croly stuff at the

1395
01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:57.479
<v Speaker 10>UT Library. They have I think a majority of his

1396
01:21:57.600 --> 01:22:00.640
<v Speaker 10>estate there.

1397
01:21:59.399 --> 01:22:01.039
<v Speaker 11>At the UT Library.

1398
01:22:01.279 --> 01:22:03.560
<v Speaker 10>You know what other estate they also have the Lewis

1399
01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:10.680
<v Speaker 10>Carroll one, oh shit, which I found interested because I

1400
01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:12.119
<v Speaker 10>was there whatever and they were like, oh, are you

1401
01:22:12.119 --> 01:22:13.560
<v Speaker 10>doing a biography And I was like, oh, I'm just

1402
01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:15.720
<v Speaker 10>doing a quick study and they're like oh, They're like,

1403
01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:20.319
<v Speaker 10>we're really excited. We just got the Lewis Carroll estate whatever.

1404
01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:24.399
<v Speaker 10>And I was like, well, that's random.

1405
01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:26.520
<v Speaker 3>The Lewis Carroll estate.

1406
01:22:26.840 --> 01:22:31.760
<v Speaker 10>Well, like part of his books, some of the paintings, oh, biographies,

1407
01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:35.920
<v Speaker 10>I mean a journals. That guy literally thought it was

1408
01:22:35.960 --> 01:22:40.560
<v Speaker 10>just how They also mentioned that and I was like, yeah,

1409
01:22:41.079 --> 01:22:44.439
<v Speaker 10>people have also not only come to see Crawley but

1410
01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:47.039
<v Speaker 10>also looks at Lewis Carroll at the same time.

1411
01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:51.560
<v Speaker 11>I don't know, I mean just it was just very random.

1412
01:22:51.840 --> 01:22:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, Lewis Carroll is fucking he's fucking you know he Sorry,

1413
01:22:56.880 --> 01:22:59.119
<v Speaker 3>I had just have to say this. He was sketching

1414
01:22:59.199 --> 01:23:03.239
<v Speaker 3>naked kids, like fucking Leo and fucking the Titanic type shit,

1415
01:23:03.720 --> 01:23:06.920
<v Speaker 3>and like fucking sketching them laying on couches and shit

1416
01:23:07.119 --> 01:23:12.039
<v Speaker 3>fucking naked. So everybody who thinks like his all separate

1417
01:23:12.079 --> 01:23:17.079
<v Speaker 3>the art from the artist. Some shit, you cannot, Alison

1418
01:23:17.159 --> 01:23:19.479
<v Speaker 3>Wonderland your way out of just saying.

1419
01:23:21.159 --> 01:23:21.319
<v Speaker 9>Right?

1420
01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:25.359
<v Speaker 4>And what are the deep patterning techniques that Disney movies

1421
01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:28.640
<v Speaker 4>use is the death of the parents at the beginning

1422
01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:33.720
<v Speaker 4>of the movie, so automatically it becomes a traumatizing event

1423
01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:36.800
<v Speaker 4>that then the kids sort of like, you know, are like,

1424
01:23:37.159 --> 01:23:41.399
<v Speaker 4>where's where's my stability, where's my you know, stasis point?

1425
01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:45.199
<v Speaker 4>And once they've you know, symbolically in the movie taken

1426
01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:49.680
<v Speaker 4>the protagonist's parents away, that's when things start to happen

1427
01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:52.880
<v Speaker 4>to that character. That then sort of compounds into this

1428
01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:55.680
<v Speaker 4>storyline where then they have to make sense of this

1429
01:23:55.800 --> 01:23:58.800
<v Speaker 4>event and on a subconscious level, it can be very

1430
01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:01.720
<v Speaker 4>traumatic for the kids, and they're always doing it in

1431
01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:05.439
<v Speaker 4>these Disney movies like Bambi and several others. It's like

1432
01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:08.119
<v Speaker 4>the parents die right off the bat, and so the

1433
01:24:08.159 --> 01:24:13.840
<v Speaker 4>kids feel without any security, even if they're not really

1434
01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:15.920
<v Speaker 4>paying attention to the movie. That's something that sort of

1435
01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:17.800
<v Speaker 4>pops up in the background. How many times the kids

1436
01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:20.399
<v Speaker 4>watch these Disney movies over and over.

1437
01:24:20.239 --> 01:24:25.079
<v Speaker 3>Again, you know, Yeah, I've frozen. The parents are dead too,

1438
01:24:25.279 --> 01:24:29.279
<v Speaker 3>but it almost like normalizes the child to be okay

1439
01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:32.560
<v Speaker 3>with the parents not being around, and it also kind

1440
01:24:32.560 --> 01:24:35.119
<v Speaker 3>of conditions the kid to think, like, oh, all the

1441
01:24:35.319 --> 01:24:39.359
<v Speaker 3>fun happens when the parents aren't around, because you know,

1442
01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:42.720
<v Speaker 3>it's always like, oh, my fucking parents died and then

1443
01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:45.520
<v Speaker 3>I fucking went on this amazing adventure and fucking did

1444
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:48.520
<v Speaker 3>all this shit. Thank god my parents died at the

1445
01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:51.319
<v Speaker 3>beginning so I could do all this fucking Peter Panning

1446
01:24:51.439 --> 01:24:55.000
<v Speaker 3>shit or whatever. It is not Peter Pants specifically, but

1447
01:24:55.159 --> 01:24:59.039
<v Speaker 3>you get the idea they program the kids into thinking

1448
01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:02.680
<v Speaker 3>that's when the fun stuff happens. You don't need mom

1449
01:25:02.720 --> 01:25:07.399
<v Speaker 3>and dad. They're dead to you. Like that's that's important

1450
01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:10.039
<v Speaker 3>to put in there at an early age.

1451
01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:15.319
<v Speaker 4>Peter Pant specifically, the freest, most awesome hero ever is

1452
01:25:15.359 --> 01:25:18.439
<v Speaker 4>an orphan who lives in this land that has no time,

1453
01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:20.359
<v Speaker 4>so it's it's still that safe.

1454
01:25:20.439 --> 01:25:23.960
<v Speaker 3>It's like kids watch that, they're like, fucking sign me up,

1455
01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:27.000
<v Speaker 3>fucking make me an orphan right now. I want to

1456
01:25:27.039 --> 01:25:30.239
<v Speaker 3>go do it and be fucking Captain hook and shit.

1457
01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:35.840
<v Speaker 3>But even like the Goonies, where the fuck is the

1458
01:25:35.960 --> 01:25:43.720
<v Speaker 3>parents when the goonies is happening. We're literally like, where

1459
01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:48.840
<v Speaker 3>the fuck are the parents? But that's what they want

1460
01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:51.199
<v Speaker 3>you to think that, they want you to find One

1461
01:25:51.399 --> 01:25:58.119
<v Speaker 3>Eyed Willie's treasure just when your parents are around. What

1462
01:25:58.199 --> 01:25:59.119
<v Speaker 3>do you think about it?

1463
01:25:59.199 --> 01:25:59.640
<v Speaker 8>You can do?

1464
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:03.479
<v Speaker 12>He breaks the He breaks the statue in the beginning

1465
01:26:03.479 --> 01:26:04.199
<v Speaker 12>of the movie too.

1466
01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:10.079
<v Speaker 3>What in the guns? Yes, you know he falls on

1467
01:26:10.720 --> 01:26:11.720
<v Speaker 3>the one Eyed Willie.

1468
01:26:12.279 --> 01:26:15.119
<v Speaker 6>No, I never never made that connection till right now,

1469
01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:15.800
<v Speaker 6>Thanks Julia.

1470
01:26:16.439 --> 01:26:21.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well thanks no to Spielberg, because that motherfucker is

1471
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:22.640
<v Speaker 3>up to some ship.

1472
01:26:22.880 --> 01:26:24.039
<v Speaker 5>But like.

1473
01:26:25.560 --> 01:26:28.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, speaking to Spielberg, he's not mentioned in Program

1474
01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:30.680
<v Speaker 3>to Kill Her anything, but somebody ought to add him

1475
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:36.279
<v Speaker 3>to a list of pedophiles because I'm so sure. I mean,

1476
01:26:36.319 --> 01:26:40.840
<v Speaker 3>look at his fucking cast of characters. He's got Heather

1477
01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:45.600
<v Speaker 3>or Rourke disteriously and there's all this these stories about

1478
01:26:45.640 --> 01:26:49.720
<v Speaker 3>what really happened to her, Drew Barrymore, she's pretty fucked

1479
01:26:49.840 --> 01:26:53.239
<v Speaker 3>up if you ask me, and if you if you've

1480
01:26:53.840 --> 01:26:56.159
<v Speaker 3>got her to say the truth, she'd probably tell you

1481
01:26:56.279 --> 01:26:59.600
<v Speaker 3>all kinds of stuff. I mean, he literally only makes

1482
01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:04.720
<v Speaker 3>movie where it's focused around kids, or there's like a

1483
01:27:04.760 --> 01:27:06.800
<v Speaker 3>lot of kids in it, or some shit like that.

1484
01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:14.960
<v Speaker 3>I literally I don't know the guy from uh Back

1485
01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:18.000
<v Speaker 3>to the Future, the guy that played Michael J. Fox's dad,

1486
01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:21.920
<v Speaker 3>His name is Crispin Glover. He wrote this big, long

1487
01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:26.279
<v Speaker 3>thing to Steven Spielberg like why do you touch kids?

1488
01:27:26.760 --> 01:27:31.239
<v Speaker 3>Why do you have kids in scenes with shit and

1489
01:27:31.319 --> 01:27:34.760
<v Speaker 3>piss all over them? And why do you and like,

1490
01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:37.279
<v Speaker 3>you guys need to go look it up. Crispin Glover

1491
01:27:37.439 --> 01:27:40.600
<v Speaker 3>he wrote this whole thing to Headless. You're nodding, do

1492
01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:41.720
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm talking about?

1493
01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:45.560
<v Speaker 4>It's horrendous and nobody paid any attention to it. After that,

1494
01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:47.960
<v Speaker 4>it's like, oh, Crispin Glover, he's a crazy guy. But

1495
01:27:48.000 --> 01:27:51.399
<v Speaker 4>it's like, dude, he's making very specific allegations against one

1496
01:27:51.399 --> 01:27:55.079
<v Speaker 4>of these untouchable directors. And if you notice a lot

1497
01:27:55.079 --> 01:27:57.760
<v Speaker 4>of the directors that got you know, in trouble on

1498
01:27:57.840 --> 01:28:03.399
<v Speaker 4>Twitter for all these pedophilia uh statements, they're like Hollywood's

1499
01:28:03.399 --> 01:28:06.920
<v Speaker 4>favorite directors. You know. The guy who directed he got

1500
01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:09.960
<v Speaker 4>in trouble for all these pedophilic statements. And you know

1501
01:28:10.319 --> 01:28:14.680
<v Speaker 4>what happened to him? Nothing? You know, James gone again.

1502
01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>He got promoted, can say it, but nobody does anything.

1503
01:28:20.239 --> 01:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>No promoted.

1504
01:28:23.359 --> 01:28:24.159
<v Speaker 3>He got promoted.

1505
01:28:24.439 --> 01:28:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Congratulations, you're a pedophile. You're the CEO of Marvel.

1506
01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:35.680
<v Speaker 12>Wow. That Dan Schneider guy too, right, what did he

1507
01:28:35.800 --> 01:28:36.399
<v Speaker 12>say something?

1508
01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:37.720
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

1509
01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:40.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I was thinking about the guy that's in all

1510
01:28:40.079 --> 01:28:44.319
<v Speaker 3>the Happy Gilmore and all that shit. Weird. What's his name?

1511
01:28:44.520 --> 01:28:44.840
<v Speaker 12>Steve?

1512
01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:52.239
<v Speaker 3>No, don't say Steve.

1513
01:28:57.680 --> 01:29:02.119
<v Speaker 4>Dan Schneider character would have hot up parties with people

1514
01:29:02.119 --> 01:29:02.439
<v Speaker 4>in the.

1515
01:29:02.479 --> 01:29:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Cast and like, yeah he would, he would.

1516
01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:07.960
<v Speaker 4>He had a foot oub session and you can see

1517
01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:11.960
<v Speaker 4>what happened to one of his most famous stars. What's

1518
01:29:12.039 --> 01:29:15.079
<v Speaker 4>what's her name? The the one that's basically living on

1519
01:29:15.119 --> 01:29:15.880
<v Speaker 4>the streets now.

1520
01:29:16.199 --> 01:29:19.920
<v Speaker 3>She had her own show, Amandes.

1521
01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:22.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I.

1522
01:29:25.199 --> 01:29:27.479
<v Speaker 1>Love She also became best friends with J. J.

1523
01:29:27.640 --> 01:29:30.880
<v Speaker 5>Bryan, the head of one of the process cold off shoots,

1524
01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:31.920
<v Speaker 5>So I.

1525
01:29:31.880 --> 01:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Really think a lot of her down on. It may

1526
01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:35.039
<v Speaker 1>include Dan Schneider.

1527
01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:37.800
<v Speaker 5>But it also includes the processed Church of Amanda Vines.

1528
01:29:38.520 --> 01:29:41.159
<v Speaker 6>Is Dan Schneider also the one involved with Britney Spears'

1529
01:29:41.239 --> 01:29:42.359
<v Speaker 6>sister Jamie.

1530
01:29:42.159 --> 01:29:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Ly Zoey or show called Zoe Want.

1531
01:29:46.600 --> 01:29:46.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1532
01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:48.960
<v Speaker 12>I don't know that name of the show, but I

1533
01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:50.439
<v Speaker 12>think I don't.

1534
01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Rumor to be the dad right.

1535
01:29:52.239 --> 01:29:56.560
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's like her baby daddy or whatever that's weird.

1536
01:29:56.600 --> 01:30:00.000
<v Speaker 6>And then yeah, the Nickelodeon logo is the foot well

1537
01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:05.079
<v Speaker 6>for the longest time back in the day.

1538
01:30:05.199 --> 01:30:07.239
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, if you think about it, there are

1539
01:30:07.399 --> 01:30:09.880
<v Speaker 3>other actors who have tried to come out and say

1540
01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:13.920
<v Speaker 3>stuff like this, this Crisp and Glover guy, and it's

1541
01:30:13.960 --> 01:30:16.760
<v Speaker 3>like they get this and they're reading it and they're like, oh,

1542
01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:19.279
<v Speaker 3>who the fuck are you the dad from fucking Back

1543
01:30:19.319 --> 01:30:22.760
<v Speaker 3>to the Future. Fuck you, Like, oh, because you're not

1544
01:30:22.920 --> 01:30:26.800
<v Speaker 3>the fucking level of star or something like you can't

1545
01:30:26.800 --> 01:30:31.960
<v Speaker 3>be taken for your yeah, for your word or what

1546
01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:36.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean. But I mean, Steven Spielberg, I don't know

1547
01:30:36.359 --> 01:30:38.479
<v Speaker 3>if you guys have heard about what could have possibly

1548
01:30:38.520 --> 01:30:45.119
<v Speaker 3>happened to Heather or Roork, but he's a fucking douche packer, right.

1549
01:30:45.359 --> 01:30:47.159
<v Speaker 4>Uh was that Poltergeist?

1550
01:30:47.640 --> 01:30:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've heard some, yeah, you know theories.

1551
01:30:56.479 --> 01:30:58.960
<v Speaker 6>I think the girl the young actors from Jurassic Park,

1552
01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:02.760
<v Speaker 6>the original one played the granddaughter. She also came out

1553
01:31:02.800 --> 01:31:05.119
<v Speaker 6>and said stuff about Spielberger, and she like refuses to

1554
01:31:05.119 --> 01:31:09.479
<v Speaker 6>go to any like cast like you know, get togethers

1555
01:31:09.640 --> 01:31:10.840
<v Speaker 6>or do any interviews.

1556
01:31:10.920 --> 01:31:14.840
<v Speaker 12>Nothing. She was a one and done, one and done

1557
01:31:14.880 --> 01:31:16.760
<v Speaker 12>movie after that because of Spielberg.

1558
01:31:17.800 --> 01:31:22.159
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I mean think about that. That that's fucking nuts,

1559
01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:27.520
<v Speaker 3>and like it's still you know, I hate to say this,

1560
01:31:27.720 --> 01:31:31.600
<v Speaker 3>but some of them, the people that we idolize the most,

1561
01:31:31.680 --> 01:31:35.680
<v Speaker 3>that we hold on some type of pedestal that like,

1562
01:31:35.720 --> 01:31:39.119
<v Speaker 3>they're all usually involved in some weird shit like this,

1563
01:31:39.520 --> 01:31:44.960
<v Speaker 3>And I mean that's pretty much so for for the

1564
01:31:45.000 --> 01:31:47.600
<v Speaker 3>first part of Program to Kill, that's pretty much what

1565
01:31:47.920 --> 01:31:50.520
<v Speaker 3>he goes into, are these pedophile rings and stuff. And

1566
01:31:50.560 --> 01:31:53.279
<v Speaker 3>I know it's hard to believe, and I know it's gross,

1567
01:31:53.279 --> 01:31:55.399
<v Speaker 3>and I know it's hard to talk about, and people,

1568
01:31:56.399 --> 01:32:00.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, dramatize shit sometimes, but if you're gonna reap

1569
01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:05.520
<v Speaker 3>Graham to Kill, this is very important information. And I

1570
01:32:05.560 --> 01:32:07.960
<v Speaker 3>think that the first like I said, I think it's

1571
01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:11.439
<v Speaker 3>like ten chapters or something about these pedophile rings. Nothing

1572
01:32:11.439 --> 01:32:13.079
<v Speaker 3>else will make sense to you about the rest of

1573
01:32:13.119 --> 01:32:16.479
<v Speaker 3>the book unless you understand this first. And it's like

1574
01:32:16.920 --> 01:32:22.239
<v Speaker 3>our government is and other governments are run by pedophiles

1575
01:32:22.800 --> 01:32:24.520
<v Speaker 3>and serial killers.

1576
01:32:26.840 --> 01:32:28.359
<v Speaker 8>And it goes back a long time.

1577
01:32:28.880 --> 01:32:32.479
<v Speaker 9>Benjamin Franklin had little kids buried in his yard. I

1578
01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:36.399
<v Speaker 9>mean they just excavated his house and fountain stuff like that.

1579
01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:40.000
<v Speaker 9>He was in the hell Fire Club, so it seems

1580
01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:42.119
<v Speaker 9>like this has been the way for a long time too.

1581
01:32:43.439 --> 01:32:44.479
<v Speaker 3>Oh for sure.

1582
01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Is there anything anybody else wanted to bring up.

1583
01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:55.520
<v Speaker 4>Well about the serial killer tip? It's so interesting, He

1584
01:32:55.600 --> 01:32:57.720
<v Speaker 4>points out in the book that all of these serial

1585
01:32:57.800 --> 01:33:03.000
<v Speaker 4>killers are connected to high level politics. You've got oh man,

1586
01:33:03.039 --> 01:33:04.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm blanking on his name. They got you dressed up

1587
01:33:04.760 --> 01:33:05.319
<v Speaker 4>like a clown.

1588
01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:07.800
<v Speaker 3>John Wayne Gacy, Yeah.

1589
01:33:07.680 --> 01:33:11.840
<v Speaker 4>John Wayne Gacy taking pictures with Carter's wife at the

1590
01:33:11.920 --> 01:33:15.239
<v Speaker 4>White House, and nobody seems to ask any questions about that.

1591
01:33:17.119 --> 01:33:22.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Ted Bundy was real high up into politics. Jeffrey Dahmer. Military.

1592
01:33:23.399 --> 01:33:25.960
<v Speaker 3>A lot of these serial killers are military, the ones

1593
01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:30.239
<v Speaker 3>that like to collect bodies and like fucking necrofile them

1594
01:33:30.279 --> 01:33:32.760
<v Speaker 3>and split them up into pieces and shit. They're usually

1595
01:33:32.840 --> 01:33:39.199
<v Speaker 3>turned out to be military. And one question that I

1596
01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:41.640
<v Speaker 3>did want to ask you guys before we kind of

1597
01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:46.880
<v Speaker 3>sum everything up was I recently spoke with a guest

1598
01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:49.600
<v Speaker 3>and he asked me this question, and it's been lingering

1599
01:33:49.680 --> 01:33:52.079
<v Speaker 3>with me, but he said, what what do you think

1600
01:33:52.079 --> 01:33:55.880
<v Speaker 3>about the possibility that a lot of these high level

1601
01:33:55.920 --> 01:34:04.920
<v Speaker 3>politicians or actresses, musicians, whatever, serial killers they're all just characters, right.

1602
01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:08.680
<v Speaker 3>They play this character of Ted Bundy, the mass murderer

1603
01:34:08.680 --> 01:34:12.279
<v Speaker 3>that killed all these girls, and the real person who's

1604
01:34:12.319 --> 01:34:16.039
<v Speaker 3>playing Ted Bundy, his name might not even be Ted Bundy,

1605
01:34:16.079 --> 01:34:21.239
<v Speaker 3>but he's just playing the role of the serial killer.

1606
01:34:21.720 --> 01:34:24.640
<v Speaker 3>And a lot of these victims could be fake and staged.

1607
01:34:25.359 --> 01:34:28.399
<v Speaker 3>Some of them could be real murders, but it's all

1608
01:34:28.600 --> 01:34:30.279
<v Speaker 3>just like a big show because at the end of

1609
01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:35.840
<v Speaker 3>the day, you can't convict Ted Bundy of murder because

1610
01:34:35.880 --> 01:34:41.359
<v Speaker 3>Ted Bundy doesn't exist. That's a character, right, So the

1611
01:34:41.439 --> 01:34:45.920
<v Speaker 3>person who's committing all these crimes doesn't exist. And so

1612
01:34:46.439 --> 01:34:48.680
<v Speaker 3>the same thing with the pedophile stuff. It's like, if

1613
01:34:48.720 --> 01:34:51.359
<v Speaker 3>they're just a character playing a role, then they can

1614
01:34:51.399 --> 01:34:55.199
<v Speaker 3>do any crime anyway they want to do it, pedophile

1615
01:34:55.239 --> 01:34:57.680
<v Speaker 3>as many kids as they want, because they're just a

1616
01:34:57.800 --> 01:35:03.560
<v Speaker 3>character and they don't exist. It's an interesting thought.

1617
01:35:04.760 --> 01:35:06.600
<v Speaker 4>I agree. I think that can be part of it.

1618
01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:10.800
<v Speaker 4>I think one of the benefits of the serial killer

1619
01:35:10.840 --> 01:35:14.960
<v Speaker 4>phenomenon is that you can kill somebody who's really your

1620
01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:17.960
<v Speaker 4>target and they'll just get swept under the rug of

1621
01:35:18.039 --> 01:35:20.359
<v Speaker 4>this was just a random act by a serial killer

1622
01:35:20.399 --> 01:35:23.840
<v Speaker 4>who's going around, you know, terrorizing the place. So you

1623
01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:27.279
<v Speaker 4>can sneak a bunch of real targets for an establishment

1624
01:35:27.359 --> 01:35:30.399
<v Speaker 4>that wants to get rid of these people into the

1625
01:35:30.479 --> 01:35:34.279
<v Speaker 4>deck of all these random killings. And that's the difference.

1626
01:35:35.279 --> 01:35:38.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean they're literally like employees. They're like characters

1627
01:35:38.720 --> 01:35:42.600
<v Speaker 3>in the CIA, and they get all these bitch and monikers, right,

1628
01:35:42.680 --> 01:35:47.000
<v Speaker 3>the Green River Killer, the fuck BTK, buying torture kill,

1629
01:35:47.439 --> 01:35:51.319
<v Speaker 3>like they get some kind of zodiac And so they're

1630
01:35:51.479 --> 01:35:57.039
<v Speaker 3>like characters. They're literally created and they're employed by the CIA,

1631
01:35:57.319 --> 01:36:02.119
<v Speaker 3>and there they don't the people behind these serial killers,

1632
01:36:03.520 --> 01:36:07.239
<v Speaker 3>like it's just a guy playing a part. Their part

1633
01:36:07.279 --> 01:36:10.800
<v Speaker 3>is the serial killer. They're supposed to murder these bitches

1634
01:36:10.960 --> 01:36:12.560
<v Speaker 3>because you know what I mean.

1635
01:36:12.760 --> 01:36:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I think they do that with other people besides.

1636
01:36:15.760 --> 01:36:19.439
<v Speaker 3>Politicians for sure. I mean, how many how many Joe

1637
01:36:19.439 --> 01:36:22.279
<v Speaker 3>Biden's have we seen? There's a tall one, a short one,

1638
01:36:22.399 --> 01:36:26.439
<v Speaker 3>one that has detached ear lobes, one that doesn't okay.

1639
01:36:26.680 --> 01:36:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean like.

1640
01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:32.640
<v Speaker 3>There's multiple characters playing the same role, or like multiple

1641
01:36:33.319 --> 01:36:36.880
<v Speaker 3>people playing the same character. So I think that it's

1642
01:36:36.920 --> 01:36:41.039
<v Speaker 3>true with celebrities. I think they swap bitches out. I

1643
01:36:41.079 --> 01:36:43.760
<v Speaker 3>think you know, goes across the board.

1644
01:36:45.319 --> 01:36:48.600
<v Speaker 6>So maybe we're all suffering from Alice in Wonderland syndrome.

1645
01:36:49.399 --> 01:36:55.439
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I wouldn't put it fast.

1646
01:36:55.439 --> 01:36:58.239
<v Speaker 10>Do you think that maybe could be a way of

1647
01:36:58.840 --> 01:37:00.399
<v Speaker 10>disguising contract killing.

1648
01:37:01.640 --> 01:37:04.760
<v Speaker 3>It definitely would be helpful, you know what I.

1649
01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:07.479
<v Speaker 10>Mean, Like if you kill a whole and then throw

1650
01:37:07.520 --> 01:37:11.479
<v Speaker 10>in one that you really needed killed plain but you

1651
01:37:11.520 --> 01:37:12.279
<v Speaker 10>only wanted one.

1652
01:37:13.159 --> 01:37:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it definitely. It definitely helps with the confusion because

1653
01:37:18.039 --> 01:37:20.159
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people, and this goes back to something

1654
01:37:20.199 --> 01:37:23.279
<v Speaker 3>we spoke about earlier in the episode, a lot of

1655
01:37:23.279 --> 01:37:27.439
<v Speaker 3>people have done some interesting research that the Zodiac killer

1656
01:37:27.720 --> 01:37:35.079
<v Speaker 3>was Michael Achino, and there's all these military boot prints

1657
01:37:35.159 --> 01:37:40.039
<v Speaker 3>found on all the Zodiac victims crime scenes, and they

1658
01:37:40.079 --> 01:37:44.199
<v Speaker 3>describe him as being clean cut, crew cut, military style,

1659
01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:48.760
<v Speaker 3>this and that. And one of the victims was killed

1660
01:37:48.880 --> 01:37:53.520
<v Speaker 3>very close to the Presidio area, the cab driver. There

1661
01:37:53.640 --> 01:37:55.920
<v Speaker 3>was some kids that called in to the police and

1662
01:37:55.920 --> 01:37:59.359
<v Speaker 3>gave a description of the assailant, and instead of giving

1663
01:37:59.399 --> 01:38:02.479
<v Speaker 3>the truthful description, they said, there's a freaking black guy

1664
01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:04.760
<v Speaker 3>running around with a gun. Somebody come and get him.

1665
01:38:04.800 --> 01:38:07.199
<v Speaker 3>He just shot a cab driver. What they didn't even

1666
01:38:07.239 --> 01:38:11.439
<v Speaker 3>give the actual description that the kids had provided to

1667
01:38:11.720 --> 01:38:14.560
<v Speaker 3>the police. So they were at a wild goose chase

1668
01:38:14.960 --> 01:38:18.239
<v Speaker 3>chasing a black guy that didn't exist, while Michael Lakino's

1669
01:38:18.239 --> 01:38:22.439
<v Speaker 3>probably getting off fucking you know, out of sight.

1670
01:38:24.760 --> 01:38:27.920
<v Speaker 10>Well, i'll plug one of your first episodes with PTK.

1671
01:38:28.479 --> 01:38:35.119
<v Speaker 10>You mentioned Hinckley and how he supposedly confessed to what

1672
01:38:35.279 --> 01:38:38.399
<v Speaker 10>three to six hundred murders or something like that, but

1673
01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:42.479
<v Speaker 10>that in reality and then he got off right, Bush

1674
01:38:42.520 --> 01:38:47.439
<v Speaker 10>pardoned him, But in reality there was no real evidence

1675
01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:49.960
<v Speaker 10>pointing to his death. And they think that maybe he

1676
01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:54.039
<v Speaker 10>was confessing and he was giving actual evidence and it

1677
01:38:54.359 --> 01:38:58.239
<v Speaker 10>allowed for them to close cases, but that maybe perhaps

1678
01:38:58.279 --> 01:39:03.600
<v Speaker 10>he was being fed the information on these crimes and

1679
01:39:03.840 --> 01:39:05.439
<v Speaker 10>he was just gonna sit down for a while.

1680
01:39:06.359 --> 01:39:09.359
<v Speaker 11>You know, no, serial killers.

1681
01:39:09.039 --> 01:39:13.279
<v Speaker 10>Themselves may not be, like you said, the actual person

1682
01:39:13.359 --> 01:39:16.079
<v Speaker 10>doing it, but just a character that is playing the

1683
01:39:16.119 --> 01:39:19.920
<v Speaker 10>part in it to allow for everything else to be

1684
01:39:19.960 --> 01:39:22.560
<v Speaker 10>swept under the rug, and no one is the wiser.

1685
01:39:23.479 --> 01:39:26.199
<v Speaker 3>Well, Lisa, did you see something on Netflix called The

1686
01:39:26.239 --> 01:39:27.239
<v Speaker 3>Confession Killer?

1687
01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:28.520
<v Speaker 11>I have not yet.

1688
01:39:29.359 --> 01:39:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, it's about it's just like what you were saying.

1689
01:39:32.600 --> 01:39:37.520
<v Speaker 3>It's about Henry Lee Lucas. They called him the confession Killer. Okay, yeah,

1690
01:39:37.600 --> 01:39:43.920
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say Henry Lee, like this guy's a

1691
01:39:44.039 --> 01:39:48.439
<v Speaker 3>fucking enigma. This guy. They could say, we'll give you

1692
01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:52.840
<v Speaker 3>a happy meal box in two strawberry milkshakes if you

1693
01:39:52.880 --> 01:39:56.399
<v Speaker 3>say you did these five crimes, and he'd be like, okay.

1694
01:39:57.279 --> 01:40:00.000
<v Speaker 3>And it was like Lisa was saying, he admitted can

1695
01:40:00.119 --> 01:40:03.680
<v Speaker 3>Fest to a number of murders that he probably wasn't

1696
01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:06.640
<v Speaker 3>even in town, in the state, in the fucking country

1697
01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:09.359
<v Speaker 3>when they happened, but he would admit to it as

1698
01:40:09.399 --> 01:40:11.479
<v Speaker 3>long they'd be like, hey, we'll get you some cigarettes,

1699
01:40:12.199 --> 01:40:14.960
<v Speaker 3>We'll get you a fucking biscuits and gravy. What do

1700
01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:17.239
<v Speaker 3>you want and they bring it into him and then

1701
01:40:17.279 --> 01:40:20.399
<v Speaker 3>he would just start confessing shit and and so.

1702
01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:25.399
<v Speaker 11>Stuff like legit evidence. How would he if he wasn't

1703
01:40:25.439 --> 01:40:25.960
<v Speaker 11>part of it?

1704
01:40:26.920 --> 01:40:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1705
01:40:27.760 --> 01:40:31.600
<v Speaker 3>And he did say Henry Lee Lucas did say that

1706
01:40:32.039 --> 01:40:39.199
<v Speaker 3>he uh was trained by a military group that was

1707
01:40:39.239 --> 01:40:43.439
<v Speaker 3>involved with the Death Death Hand of Death is what

1708
01:40:43.479 --> 01:40:46.920
<v Speaker 3>he called it, and they were training serial killers essentially.

1709
01:40:47.560 --> 01:40:52.119
<v Speaker 3>That's what Henry Lee Lucas said. I mean, it's fucking wild,

1710
01:40:53.119 --> 01:40:57.520
<v Speaker 3>and I mean it. I really do think that a

1711
01:40:57.560 --> 01:41:00.239
<v Speaker 3>lot of these guys are just playing the role of

1712
01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:04.039
<v Speaker 3>the serial killer and there's somebody else that's doing a

1713
01:41:04.039 --> 01:41:06.840
<v Speaker 3>lot of these murderous things, and then it's just getting

1714
01:41:06.840 --> 01:41:09.560
<v Speaker 3>blamed on one person. When we get into it a

1715
01:41:09.560 --> 01:41:11.680
<v Speaker 3>little bit further, I want to talk about it more

1716
01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:15.880
<v Speaker 3>depth in like a future episode. But some of these crimes,

1717
01:41:15.920 --> 01:41:21.840
<v Speaker 3>you guys, like with gaycy Even and Bundy, like it's

1718
01:41:21.880 --> 01:41:24.319
<v Speaker 3>not even possible for them to have gotten from one

1719
01:41:24.359 --> 01:41:26.960
<v Speaker 3>crime scene to the other in the allotted amount of

1720
01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:29.880
<v Speaker 3>time that they say it happened. It's like Ted Bundy

1721
01:41:29.920 --> 01:41:33.359
<v Speaker 3>abducted this girl and this girl they live seven thousand

1722
01:41:33.359 --> 01:41:35.640
<v Speaker 3>miles apart, but he got there in fifteen minutes and

1723
01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:38.600
<v Speaker 3>he killed both of them, and they're both Bundy victims,

1724
01:41:38.880 --> 01:41:42.119
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, what the fuck? Slow down, Like this

1725
01:41:42.159 --> 01:41:48.399
<v Speaker 3>is not making sense. So these serial killers, politicians, celebrities, whatever,

1726
01:41:49.960 --> 01:41:55.439
<v Speaker 3>they're usually characters playing a role, and they happen to

1727
01:41:55.479 --> 01:42:01.960
<v Speaker 3>be murderous, psychopathic pedophiles most of the time. But I

1728
01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:03.479
<v Speaker 3>don't know what you guys think about it.

1729
01:42:03.720 --> 01:42:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I think so well, it goes sure. I think there's

1730
01:42:06.119 --> 01:42:07.880
<v Speaker 2>sure some stuff goes on like that.

1731
01:42:09.279 --> 01:42:12.680
<v Speaker 4>I think it goes to the multiple faceted aspect of

1732
01:42:12.720 --> 01:42:15.119
<v Speaker 4>these serial killers. So you've got these police who are

1733
01:42:15.159 --> 01:42:18.239
<v Speaker 4>looking to close as many cases as possible to make

1734
01:42:18.279 --> 01:42:22.319
<v Speaker 4>themselves look good and try and take all this evidence

1735
01:42:22.359 --> 01:42:25.199
<v Speaker 4>and plant it on one guy so that, well, now

1736
01:42:25.239 --> 01:42:28.800
<v Speaker 4>our closure rate is back up to what like seventy

1737
01:42:28.840 --> 01:42:32.319
<v Speaker 4>percent or whatever they what they claim. I know, like

1738
01:42:33.119 --> 01:42:35.800
<v Speaker 4>a third of the murders that happen in the country

1739
01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:39.159
<v Speaker 4>go unsolved, so they have to have a serial killer

1740
01:42:39.239 --> 01:42:41.640
<v Speaker 4>to sort of base all of their stuff on because

1741
01:42:42.199 --> 01:42:45.760
<v Speaker 4>makes them seem more competent than they are. And then

1742
01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:47.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, at the same time, you've got the fear,

1743
01:42:48.399 --> 01:42:51.920
<v Speaker 4>and the fear is what produces this response of people

1744
01:42:52.000 --> 01:42:54.199
<v Speaker 4>that gets them to look to the government as being

1745
01:42:54.239 --> 01:42:57.640
<v Speaker 4>the answers, because you know, we're all a bunch of toddlers. Basically,

1746
01:42:57.720 --> 01:43:00.800
<v Speaker 4>we can't do anything for ourselves, right.

1747
01:43:01.439 --> 01:43:05.760
<v Speaker 3>And I do think there are some grassroots just psychopathic

1748
01:43:06.159 --> 01:43:10.960
<v Speaker 3>murdering people out there. You know, I've watched true crime

1749
01:43:11.359 --> 01:43:13.199
<v Speaker 3>shows since I was like ten years old.

1750
01:43:13.199 --> 01:43:13.640
<v Speaker 12>I get it.

1751
01:43:13.880 --> 01:43:17.880
<v Speaker 3>There are actual psychopaths that actually fucking murder their pregnant

1752
01:43:17.880 --> 01:43:21.960
<v Speaker 3>wives and shit like Scott Peterson. And there's actually fucking

1753
01:43:21.960 --> 01:43:24.640
<v Speaker 3>pieces of shit out there that are murdering. But these

1754
01:43:24.760 --> 01:43:29.479
<v Speaker 3>ones that get turned into superstars and get Netflix shows

1755
01:43:29.520 --> 01:43:35.439
<v Speaker 3>based on them. Gacy Dahmer, Bundy zac Efron playing Bundy.

1756
01:43:35.680 --> 01:43:39.279
<v Speaker 3>Are you serious? They got the kid from from American

1757
01:43:39.279 --> 01:43:42.479
<v Speaker 3>Horror Story playing Dahmer. They're making celebs out of them

1758
01:43:42.880 --> 01:43:46.399
<v Speaker 3>because they're homegrown. They're proud of what they've done, and

1759
01:43:46.720 --> 01:43:48.840
<v Speaker 3>they're proud of the fact that they're getting one over

1760
01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:55.960
<v Speaker 3>on everyone. And you know, I just think it's so interconnected,

1761
01:43:56.800 --> 01:43:59.359
<v Speaker 3>and at the root of all of this is usually

1762
01:43:59.399 --> 01:44:04.039
<v Speaker 3>Satanism and doing stuff to kids. I mean, like that's

1763
01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:06.479
<v Speaker 3>the sad truth of it. Even these a lot of

1764
01:44:06.520 --> 01:44:12.199
<v Speaker 3>these gaycy victims and shit, it's like, I mean, he

1765
01:44:12.279 --> 01:44:14.039
<v Speaker 3>wasn't even in town for a couple of them. So

1766
01:44:14.039 --> 01:44:16.399
<v Speaker 3>it's like, why why do they always they're always needing

1767
01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:22.199
<v Speaker 3>young men and children and doing weird stuff with them,

1768
01:44:22.359 --> 01:44:25.159
<v Speaker 3>Like it just I don't.

1769
01:44:24.920 --> 01:44:27.880
<v Speaker 10>Know one more thing I wanted to insert because it

1770
01:44:27.960 --> 01:44:30.840
<v Speaker 10>just occurred to me what you just said. So these

1771
01:44:31.159 --> 01:44:34.279
<v Speaker 10>profiling of these serial killers that gave them their names,

1772
01:44:34.319 --> 01:44:37.319
<v Speaker 10>that gave them their fame, so to speak, is the

1773
01:44:37.359 --> 01:44:40.239
<v Speaker 10>behavioral science the what is it, the behavioral forensic science

1774
01:44:40.319 --> 01:44:44.199
<v Speaker 10>unit of the FBI. Ready, those people are already you know,

1775
01:44:44.319 --> 01:44:50.680
<v Speaker 10>questionable in of them themselves. I think the Netflix documentary

1776
01:44:50.760 --> 01:44:52.199
<v Speaker 10>or the series or whatever. I thought it was great.

1777
01:44:52.239 --> 01:44:54.439
<v Speaker 10>I thought it was great acting, whatever. But yes, it

1778
01:44:54.600 --> 01:44:55.960
<v Speaker 10>is a promo for the FBI.

1779
01:44:56.279 --> 01:44:56.760
<v Speaker 11>For sure.

1780
01:44:57.000 --> 01:44:58.960
<v Speaker 10>I wanted to sign up. Let's just put it that way.

1781
01:44:59.079 --> 01:45:02.560
<v Speaker 10>It was that well done. But now we see how

1782
01:45:02.600 --> 01:45:07.960
<v Speaker 10>the FBI knows every single school shooter or mass shooter,

1783
01:45:08.439 --> 01:45:10.800
<v Speaker 10>and they were always on their radar list. What's not

1784
01:45:10.880 --> 01:45:13.520
<v Speaker 10>to say that they didn't know about these people before

1785
01:45:13.560 --> 01:45:16.239
<v Speaker 10>they were serial killing? Like it's just a trend. It's

1786
01:45:16.279 --> 01:45:19.039
<v Speaker 10>like we've now moved on from the serial killing and

1787
01:45:19.079 --> 01:45:23.399
<v Speaker 10>we are now embracing the mass shooter you know era.

1788
01:45:25.399 --> 01:45:30.319
<v Speaker 3>Of the FBI, right, because it feels like just when

1789
01:45:30.359 --> 01:45:34.159
<v Speaker 3>one thing is ending, something else pops back up. So,

1790
01:45:34.600 --> 01:45:40.880
<v Speaker 3>for example, when the Zodiac murders had quieted down and

1791
01:45:40.960 --> 01:45:44.520
<v Speaker 3>people were getting back to normal, Ted Bundy got on

1792
01:45:44.560 --> 01:45:48.159
<v Speaker 3>a plane, flew to San Francisco, where the Zodiac murders

1793
01:45:48.199 --> 01:45:53.359
<v Speaker 3>were occurring, did something unknown there, flew back to Seattle,

1794
01:45:53.439 --> 01:45:56.520
<v Speaker 3>and then became Ted Bundy and started fucking murdering bitches

1795
01:45:56.560 --> 01:45:59.920
<v Speaker 3>all up and down the coast. So Zodiac ended, Ted

1796
01:46:00.039 --> 01:46:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Bundy started. There's a lot of fucking shit I'll talk

1797
01:46:02.920 --> 01:46:06.600
<v Speaker 3>about in upcoming episodes that's really fucking suspect about him

1798
01:46:06.640 --> 01:46:12.600
<v Speaker 3>even being a murderous killer, and you know it's it's

1799
01:46:12.680 --> 01:46:16.840
<v Speaker 3>like it's really easy for them to get us through

1800
01:46:17.560 --> 01:46:22.159
<v Speaker 3>social media and Netflix documentaries and true crime shows, to

1801
01:46:22.359 --> 01:46:25.720
<v Speaker 3>accept a specific narrative and just say, Yep, that's the

1802
01:46:25.800 --> 01:46:30.600
<v Speaker 3>bad guy. We got him, he died, fucked him, and

1803
01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:33.399
<v Speaker 3>just be done with it, because nobody wants to think

1804
01:46:33.399 --> 01:46:37.279
<v Speaker 3>the bad guy got away. Nobody wants to think like, oh,

1805
01:46:37.439 --> 01:46:40.640
<v Speaker 3>the actual serial killers who were murdering all those bitches

1806
01:46:40.720 --> 01:46:43.319
<v Speaker 3>is still out there. I don't want to think that.

1807
01:46:44.159 --> 01:46:46.600
<v Speaker 3>So they're happy to pin all this shit on one

1808
01:46:46.720 --> 01:46:50.840
<v Speaker 3>character just to be done with it, right.

1809
01:46:50.680 --> 01:46:52.439
<v Speaker 4>And you can see where it messes up to like

1810
01:46:52.520 --> 01:46:58.279
<v Speaker 4>the Gilgo Beach murderers, Like clearly you could really you know,

1811
01:46:58.680 --> 01:47:02.079
<v Speaker 4>capitalize off of this serial killer who's dumping all these

1812
01:47:02.119 --> 01:47:05.239
<v Speaker 4>bodies in the beach. But then once they realized, oh,

1813
01:47:05.319 --> 01:47:08.319
<v Speaker 4>this points directly back to the police, they had to

1814
01:47:08.399 --> 01:47:10.840
<v Speaker 4>kind of scale it back and make everybody forget. So

1815
01:47:11.279 --> 01:47:14.319
<v Speaker 4>you can see these patterns of you know, how they

1816
01:47:14.359 --> 01:47:17.560
<v Speaker 4>try to make these narratives, then the narrative falls apart,

1817
01:47:17.600 --> 01:47:20.600
<v Speaker 4>and then everybody forgets about it, you know mm hm.

1818
01:47:21.239 --> 01:47:25.600
<v Speaker 3>And you know the whole introduction of the serial killer

1819
01:47:26.239 --> 01:47:30.239
<v Speaker 3>went down in the nineteen sixties, in my opinion, the

1820
01:47:30.319 --> 01:47:33.920
<v Speaker 3>same time they started the counterculture movement, the same time

1821
01:47:33.960 --> 01:47:36.520
<v Speaker 3>they started up all this Laurel Canyon shit with the

1822
01:47:36.720 --> 01:47:41.560
<v Speaker 3>fucking you know, military kids becoming star musicians, and it's like,

1823
01:47:41.640 --> 01:47:44.720
<v Speaker 3>what a fucking time to be alive, Like in the

1824
01:47:44.760 --> 01:47:48.239
<v Speaker 3>middle of the sixties when you're getting introduced to counter culture.

1825
01:47:48.359 --> 01:47:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Jim Morrison, fucking if you can't love the one you want,

1826
01:47:52.880 --> 01:47:56.159
<v Speaker 3>love the one you're with, don't take birth control, fucking

1827
01:47:56.279 --> 01:48:00.319
<v Speaker 3>grow your fucking armpit, hair out, and serial killers. I mean,

1828
01:48:01.159 --> 01:48:04.760
<v Speaker 3>they're in one breath telling women to become liberated and

1829
01:48:04.800 --> 01:48:07.560
<v Speaker 3>do stuff on their own and like break free and

1830
01:48:07.680 --> 01:48:09.560
<v Speaker 3>do all this, and at the same time they got

1831
01:48:09.560 --> 01:48:12.000
<v Speaker 3>a guy murdering all the women who are doing those

1832
01:48:12.039 --> 01:48:14.439
<v Speaker 3>things by design.

1833
01:48:17.520 --> 01:48:19.439
<v Speaker 4>I think it's so important to look at the Manson

1834
01:48:19.520 --> 01:48:24.680
<v Speaker 4>family as being the sort of prototype of the serial

1835
01:48:24.760 --> 01:48:27.039
<v Speaker 4>killer model that they used over and over again, because

1836
01:48:27.039 --> 01:48:29.680
<v Speaker 4>you've got this guy who supposedly had a lot of charisma,

1837
01:48:30.399 --> 01:48:33.920
<v Speaker 4>who was clearly on the FBI or CIA radar, who

1838
01:48:33.960 --> 01:48:37.000
<v Speaker 4>was working with a lot of these guys. I mean,

1839
01:48:37.039 --> 01:48:39.760
<v Speaker 4>that's something that Dave McGowan goes into detail and the

1840
01:48:39.840 --> 01:48:42.520
<v Speaker 4>weird scenes of the canyon, and he's just connected to

1841
01:48:42.680 --> 01:48:47.800
<v Speaker 4>so many different people inside of this scene that once

1842
01:48:47.840 --> 01:48:51.039
<v Speaker 4>you put the pieces together, you can't unsee it. And

1843
01:48:51.159 --> 01:48:54.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, meanwhile, Charles Manson never killed anybody, you know,

1844
01:48:55.960 --> 01:48:59.479
<v Speaker 4>is the serial killer like model poster boy, And it's

1845
01:48:59.520 --> 01:49:02.520
<v Speaker 4>almost like that actor thing, like he played the perfect

1846
01:49:02.680 --> 01:49:05.800
<v Speaker 4>role for them to use as a springboard into all

1847
01:49:05.800 --> 01:49:07.159
<v Speaker 4>these other areas.

1848
01:49:07.680 --> 01:49:11.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think Charles Manson is a character that he's playing.

1849
01:49:11.640 --> 01:49:15.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he was mk ultred, he was you know,

1850
01:49:15.399 --> 01:49:20.119
<v Speaker 3>he Oh my god. And like the new series that

1851
01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:22.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm working on called Blood Ties, I go into it

1852
01:49:22.560 --> 01:49:25.920
<v Speaker 3>in a little bit more detail about Charles Manson. But

1853
01:49:26.399 --> 01:49:31.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm starting to think, in my personal fucking

1854
01:49:31.880 --> 01:49:37.680
<v Speaker 3>opinion that Polanski was probably pulling the strings behind that

1855
01:49:37.760 --> 01:49:39.720
<v Speaker 3>whole shit, and he got out of town so it

1856
01:49:39.720 --> 01:49:42.000
<v Speaker 3>couldn't look like him. Oh I'm out of town shooting

1857
01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:44.159
<v Speaker 3>a movie while my pregnant wife and all of our

1858
01:49:44.199 --> 01:49:46.800
<v Speaker 3>friends are getting massacred at the house. Just so happened

1859
01:49:46.800 --> 01:49:50.680
<v Speaker 3>to be out of town. And like Rosemary's Baby shit,

1860
01:49:52.239 --> 01:49:55.520
<v Speaker 3>there is they found footage of Roman inviting people over

1861
01:49:55.520 --> 01:49:58.560
<v Speaker 3>to the house to run train on Sharon. They were

1862
01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:02.880
<v Speaker 3>filming like weird uh you know, pornographic shit at their house.

1863
01:50:02.920 --> 01:50:06.600
<v Speaker 3>They were doing wife swapping and like weird rituals and

1864
01:50:06.640 --> 01:50:10.399
<v Speaker 3>shit at their house. And so again, I think Charles

1865
01:50:10.439 --> 01:50:14.439
<v Speaker 3>Manson is a character that's taking credit for a bunch

1866
01:50:14.479 --> 01:50:18.720
<v Speaker 3>of shit that people just wanted swept under the rug directors.

1867
01:50:19.039 --> 01:50:22.560
<v Speaker 4>It's all about directing, and I think that's that's where

1868
01:50:22.560 --> 01:50:24.720
<v Speaker 4>the crossover is because you see a lot of it now.

1869
01:50:25.199 --> 01:50:31.119
<v Speaker 4>During the uh, the impeachment trial of Donald Trump, they

1870
01:50:31.119 --> 01:50:36.439
<v Speaker 4>brought in Hollywood directors to film this squad or whatever

1871
01:50:36.439 --> 01:50:41.640
<v Speaker 4>they call themselves, the Special Prosecutors of J six, you know,

1872
01:50:42.199 --> 01:50:45.560
<v Speaker 4>and so they had to have this this director come

1873
01:50:45.600 --> 01:50:49.039
<v Speaker 4>in and fit everything into the perfect little package for

1874
01:50:49.119 --> 01:50:50.640
<v Speaker 4>all the normies to eat.

1875
01:50:50.600 --> 01:50:55.119
<v Speaker 3>Up, you know, mm hmmmm mm one hundred. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I hope this gets people to want and to read

1877
01:50:57.359 --> 01:51:00.279
<v Speaker 3>this book, because, like I said, there's so much in

1878
01:51:00.399 --> 01:51:03.640
<v Speaker 3>it that if I sat here until fucking two in

1879
01:51:03.680 --> 01:51:05.800
<v Speaker 3>the morning, we couldn't even get through the first couple

1880
01:51:05.800 --> 01:51:08.239
<v Speaker 3>of chapters. But I mean, I feel like this is

1881
01:51:08.279 --> 01:51:11.640
<v Speaker 3>a good taste test for the beginning of the book.

1882
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Yeah, that was great. Did anybody want to

1883
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<v Speaker 2>add anything?

1884
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<v Speaker 5>Sure, I think one thing that's not necessarily in the

1885
01:51:21.399 --> 01:51:23.159
<v Speaker 5>Program to Kill a book that's come to light since

1886
01:51:23.239 --> 01:51:25.880
<v Speaker 5>McAllan wrote the book, but kind of fits right in

1887
01:51:25.920 --> 01:51:28.479
<v Speaker 5>line with what we're talking about here, with the satanism

1888
01:51:28.479 --> 01:51:31.960
<v Speaker 5>of the Program to Kill. You know, the hand of

1889
01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:35.199
<v Speaker 5>Death Bolt is a fellow by the name of Edward

1890
01:51:35.239 --> 01:51:38.920
<v Speaker 5>Wynn Edwards. He was formerly the In fact that Zodia

1891
01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:41.840
<v Speaker 5>Killery fits into that conversation as well. So I think

1892
01:51:41.880 --> 01:51:43.960
<v Speaker 5>a lot of these are all Satanic cult murders. Manson

1893
01:51:43.960 --> 01:51:47.680
<v Speaker 5>family included. Polanski was actually in Rome with the Processed

1894
01:51:47.720 --> 01:51:50.279
<v Speaker 5>Church when his wife was getting murdered, and they had

1895
01:51:50.279 --> 01:51:53.039
<v Speaker 5>all sorts of process Church connections along with Manson there too.

1896
01:51:53.680 --> 01:51:55.560
<v Speaker 5>So I think a lot of these Satanic cults largely

1897
01:51:55.560 --> 01:51:58.880
<v Speaker 5>wrapped up within this process umbrella, you know, function around

1898
01:51:58.880 --> 01:52:02.239
<v Speaker 5>all these murders. Edward wyn Edwards though, so the Zodiac

1899
01:52:02.359 --> 01:52:05.199
<v Speaker 5>Killer was one of the surviving one of the surviving

1900
01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:07.880
<v Speaker 5>males in the one of his attacks, you know, I

1901
01:52:08.239 --> 01:52:11.239
<v Speaker 5>think it was actually a team of killers, a part

1902
01:52:11.239 --> 01:52:13.520
<v Speaker 5>of a Satanic cult. They're operating in around the presidio

1903
01:52:13.560 --> 01:52:17.760
<v Speaker 5>where Michaelikino was But Edward Wyn Edwards, the guy in

1904
01:52:17.800 --> 01:52:20.960
<v Speaker 5>the hood at Lake Barriessa. All the details that killer

1905
01:52:21.039 --> 01:52:23.840
<v Speaker 5>gave to the victims. The male surviving victim who's an attorney,

1906
01:52:24.159 --> 01:52:25.359
<v Speaker 5>has been an attorney ever since then.

1907
01:52:25.399 --> 01:52:26.159
<v Speaker 1>He was in law school.

1908
01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:29.439
<v Speaker 5>All the details given to that guy are all details

1909
01:52:29.439 --> 01:52:32.079
<v Speaker 5>of Edward Winn Edwards life. He escaped to state prison

1910
01:52:32.159 --> 01:52:35.199
<v Speaker 5>in Montana. He murdered a prison guard, he fled to Mexico.

1911
01:52:35.800 --> 01:52:37.439
<v Speaker 5>You know, these were all things that made him the

1912
01:52:37.520 --> 01:52:39.960
<v Speaker 5>number one person on the FBI's most Wanted list in

1913
01:52:40.039 --> 01:52:42.640
<v Speaker 5>nineteen sixty one. He just happened to do all those

1914
01:52:42.680 --> 01:52:45.520
<v Speaker 5>things ten years prior to the Zodiac when the Zodiac

1915
01:52:45.560 --> 01:52:48.439
<v Speaker 5>described his activities, that was nineteen sixty nine.

1916
01:52:48.520 --> 01:52:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Edwards did all that in nineteen fifty nine. So Edward

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01:52:51.520 --> 01:52:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Wyn Edwards.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, at the same time Henry Lee Lucas is dancing

1919
01:52:54.880 --> 01:52:58.199
<v Speaker 5>around the US claimed to murder all these folks. Edward

1920
01:52:58.199 --> 01:53:01.399
<v Speaker 5>Wyn Edwards is making parole for an insurance fra Audrey

1921
01:53:01.439 --> 01:53:04.560
<v Speaker 5>burnt down a house in Pennsylvania. And you know, I

1922
01:53:04.640 --> 01:53:08.800
<v Speaker 5>think he's one of the fu in this core of folks.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, fuck that guy. I do think it

1924
01:53:14.920 --> 01:53:17.640
<v Speaker 3>could be a team though, for the Zodiac murders.

1925
01:53:17.800 --> 01:53:18.039
<v Speaker 2>I do.

1926
01:53:18.359 --> 01:53:24.039
<v Speaker 3>I think it could have been a team pops.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all like that comment now and yeah, so Edward Edward.

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<v Speaker 5>When Edwards was directly connected to the Atlanta child killings,

1929
01:53:30.039 --> 01:53:32.079
<v Speaker 5>for example, he infiltrated.

1930
01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:35.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to talk about that in an upcoming episode

1931
01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:38.079
<v Speaker 3>with you guys see Atlanta child murders. I'm going to

1932
01:53:38.159 --> 01:53:39.399
<v Speaker 3>talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

1934
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<v Speaker 1>Interesting topic.

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<v Speaker 5>But he's documented as infiltrating that task force. He was

1936
01:53:45.159 --> 01:53:47.159
<v Speaker 5>not a cop, he was not anything. He was a

1937
01:53:47.239 --> 01:53:49.640
<v Speaker 5>high school dropout. I joined the mareens at sixteen and

1938
01:53:49.680 --> 01:53:51.800
<v Speaker 5>got thrown out because he faked the birth certificate. So

1939
01:53:52.119 --> 01:53:54.239
<v Speaker 5>the guy, the guy was never you know, he had

1940
01:53:54.279 --> 01:53:58.159
<v Speaker 5>no qualifications at all remotely even to be there. Somehow

1941
01:53:58.159 --> 01:54:01.880
<v Speaker 5>he infiltrated the uh, the Atlanta Shaw Killing's police force

1942
01:54:01.960 --> 01:54:05.640
<v Speaker 5>or the task force or Marietta Police Department sargeant's uniform.

1943
01:54:06.359 --> 01:54:08.079
<v Speaker 5>The uniform was found in the home that he burned

1944
01:54:08.079 --> 01:54:11.159
<v Speaker 5>down in Pennsylvania that he was doing time for. When

1945
01:54:11.800 --> 01:54:13.640
<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden he's getting out and Henry le

1946
01:54:13.760 --> 01:54:14.720
<v Speaker 5>Lucas has taken.

1947
01:54:14.479 --> 01:54:14.840
<v Speaker 1>A hit for.

1948
01:54:14.920 --> 01:54:17.399
<v Speaker 5>I think a lot of the murders that Edward Way

1949
01:54:17.560 --> 01:54:21.000
<v Speaker 5>Edwards was responsible for ordering in participating.

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<v Speaker 3>In Oh shit, that makes a lot of sense, and.

1951
01:54:28.479 --> 01:54:31.640
<v Speaker 4>It really can't be downplayed how integral the military is

1952
01:54:31.720 --> 01:54:33.960
<v Speaker 4>and all of this, because this is where we filter

1953
01:54:34.119 --> 01:54:38.039
<v Speaker 4>out and find the most psychopathic people who joined the

1954
01:54:38.039 --> 01:54:42.399
<v Speaker 4>military to get away with murder. So when I was

1955
01:54:42.479 --> 01:54:45.800
<v Speaker 4>in that there were several people in my unit that

1956
01:54:45.960 --> 01:54:48.199
<v Speaker 4>really wanted to go to war because they wanted to

1957
01:54:47.880 --> 01:54:51.640
<v Speaker 4>get away with murder. And if you're profiling on that level,

1958
01:54:51.680 --> 01:54:54.159
<v Speaker 4>you're going to find a bunch of them who then

1959
01:54:54.239 --> 01:54:56.800
<v Speaker 4>can be used as a state side kind of a

1960
01:54:56.920 --> 01:55:01.000
<v Speaker 4>psychopath that they can you know, use as these serial killers,

1961
01:55:01.359 --> 01:55:05.000
<v Speaker 4>or they're the the hit squad working in the background

1962
01:55:05.479 --> 01:55:08.079
<v Speaker 4>of these serial killers so that they can take out

1963
01:55:08.119 --> 01:55:09.560
<v Speaker 4>the targets that they want to take out.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmmm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They like mental institutions as well. They do a lot

1967
01:55:15.479 --> 01:55:22.720
<v Speaker 3>of poaching from there too, Like prisons, uh, military mental institutions,

1968
01:55:22.760 --> 01:55:27.000
<v Speaker 3>those are their frequented hot spots for these assholes.

1969
01:55:29.479 --> 01:55:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Especially experiments on people mm hmm.

1970
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like American Horror Story Asylum, but like on steroids.

1971
01:55:39.119 --> 01:55:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Should you guys watch that season?

1972
01:55:40.960 --> 01:55:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1973
01:55:42.560 --> 01:55:42.920
<v Speaker 8>You did?

1974
01:55:43.640 --> 01:55:46.239
<v Speaker 3>You know the German guy that does all experiments on

1975
01:55:46.319 --> 01:55:49.239
<v Speaker 3>them in the basement and ship. Yeah, yeah, that was

1976
01:55:49.600 --> 01:55:53.520
<v Speaker 3>a weird real season. Dude, it gives it gives me

1977
01:55:53.600 --> 01:55:56.119
<v Speaker 3>the fucking he begbi's just talking about it, like out

1978
01:55:56.159 --> 01:55:58.439
<v Speaker 3>of all the seasons, that one just stuck with me.

1979
01:55:58.560 --> 01:56:02.439
<v Speaker 3>It's really fucking disturbing. But I mean, I think anyone

1980
01:56:02.479 --> 01:56:06.239
<v Speaker 3>can agree the last place on Earth you'd ever want

1981
01:56:06.239 --> 01:56:08.520
<v Speaker 3>to end up like, I'd rather get hit by truck

1982
01:56:08.600 --> 01:56:13.720
<v Speaker 3>before somebody admitted me into a mental institution, like straight up,

1983
01:56:13.800 --> 01:56:16.439
<v Speaker 3>like girl interrupted, fucked that shit.

1984
01:56:17.600 --> 01:56:19.279
<v Speaker 2>And that was like a religious place too, so that

1985
01:56:19.319 --> 01:56:21.640
<v Speaker 2>makes it even worse, right.

1986
01:56:22.520 --> 01:56:31.479
<v Speaker 13>Right, all right, everybody's good o good, No, all right?

1987
01:56:34.239 --> 01:56:36.960
<v Speaker 4>The MK and M culture. Isn't that a German word?

1988
01:56:37.439 --> 01:56:39.279
<v Speaker 4>So it really does go back to a lot of

1989
01:56:39.279 --> 01:56:42.000
<v Speaker 4>this Operation paper Clip, where they brought these Nazi scientists

1990
01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:44.800
<v Speaker 4>who were doing this work back to the United States

1991
01:56:44.800 --> 01:56:50.079
<v Speaker 4>and started using go ahead, Oh.

1992
01:56:50.039 --> 01:56:53.199
<v Speaker 10>Lisa, were you gonna say some no, no, no, keep

1993
01:56:53.239 --> 01:56:55.560
<v Speaker 10>going headless. It was just something that triggered me about

1994
01:56:55.640 --> 01:57:01.359
<v Speaker 10>some conversation Nick and I had about them.

1995
01:56:59.520 --> 01:57:08.399
<v Speaker 11>The oh assassin c I A that's all Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Oh do you know what the words are?

1997
01:57:13.600 --> 01:57:15.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm looking it up right now.

1998
01:57:16.119 --> 01:57:18.880
<v Speaker 2>It's sad some of us should have known that.

1999
01:57:19.079 --> 01:57:25.279
<v Speaker 3>One of us at least, I feel like conspiracy. I

2000
01:57:25.359 --> 01:57:28.520
<v Speaker 3>lose fucking stars right now for not knowing.

2001
01:57:30.039 --> 01:57:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Everybody else.

2002
01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:33.720
<v Speaker 5>I like chryst Ole's over the Secret sun Blogs interpretation

2003
01:57:33.800 --> 01:57:35.720
<v Speaker 5>of m K being magic?

2004
01:57:36.880 --> 01:57:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh is that what he says?

2005
01:57:37.880 --> 01:57:39.800
<v Speaker 1>So just an abbreviation from the word magic.

2006
01:57:41.680 --> 01:57:44.479
<v Speaker 2>Are That's interesting?

2007
01:57:45.640 --> 01:57:46.039
<v Speaker 10>Interest?

2008
01:57:46.279 --> 01:57:47.720
<v Speaker 12>I like that one. That's good.

2009
01:57:48.680 --> 01:57:51.359
<v Speaker 1>He's done a good Joe doctor. I don't want to

2010
01:57:51.399 --> 01:57:54.640
<v Speaker 1>misquote it, but he makes a good argument for it.

2011
01:57:55.880 --> 01:57:58.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh what our argument for what? Oh the magic?

2012
01:58:00.359 --> 01:58:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the NK is really just abbreviations from magic.

2013
01:58:04.119 --> 01:58:07.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, Lisa, tell me about this OSS thing because I

2014
01:58:07.960 --> 01:58:09.920
<v Speaker 3>might have something to add on to that real quick

2015
01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:11.239
<v Speaker 3>before we before we.

2016
01:58:11.279 --> 01:58:15.079
<v Speaker 10>Go, So we Nick and I were discussing because you

2017
01:58:15.159 --> 01:58:19.560
<v Speaker 10>had made mentioned about I remember which show, which episode

2018
01:58:19.600 --> 01:58:23.159
<v Speaker 10>you had, but you you basically had said how I

2019
01:58:23.199 --> 01:58:26.800
<v Speaker 10>thought you put it brilliantly that people like to think

2020
01:58:26.840 --> 01:58:30.319
<v Speaker 10>that serial killer or any kind of these ritualistic abuses

2021
01:58:30.399 --> 01:58:33.239
<v Speaker 10>or anything like that, they're like, oh, it's the government, No,

2022
01:58:33.279 --> 01:58:35.520
<v Speaker 10>it's satanic, and it's like, oh, it's one and the same.

2023
01:58:35.840 --> 01:58:36.000
<v Speaker 8>Right.

2024
01:58:36.880 --> 01:58:38.640
<v Speaker 10>So Nick and I were talking about that. I don't

2025
01:58:38.640 --> 01:58:41.079
<v Speaker 10>know if Nick, you want to interject or anything about that.

2026
01:58:42.279 --> 01:58:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think a lot of them kind of use

2027
01:58:44.119 --> 01:58:48.199
<v Speaker 2>the same technique. Like I do think like these, especially

2028
01:58:48.319 --> 01:58:51.239
<v Speaker 2>the CIA, are intelligence agencies. I think they look from

2029
01:58:51.439 --> 01:58:55.039
<v Speaker 2>occult this or they use, my opinion, like kind of

2030
01:58:55.039 --> 01:58:58.199
<v Speaker 2>stuff with like what we're covering tonight. I would say,

2031
01:58:58.199 --> 01:59:01.239
<v Speaker 2>like kind of using magical technique forcing them on people

2032
01:59:01.800 --> 01:59:04.680
<v Speaker 2>could technically be immkay ultra in my opinion, or that

2033
01:59:04.720 --> 01:59:07.399
<v Speaker 2>could help like fracture somebody's mind, you know, if they

2034
01:59:07.399 --> 01:59:09.199
<v Speaker 2>don't know what's going on and you're kind of forcing

2035
01:59:09.239 --> 01:59:12.680
<v Speaker 2>it upon them. So I do think like sometimes there

2036
01:59:12.720 --> 01:59:14.439
<v Speaker 2>are one of the same and they go hand in hand.

2037
01:59:14.479 --> 01:59:17.199
<v Speaker 2>I do think the CIA is heavily interested in the

2038
01:59:17.239 --> 01:59:19.359
<v Speaker 2>occult and they're interested in occultists.

2039
01:59:20.319 --> 01:59:25.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I actually just said that the other day,

2040
01:59:25.359 --> 01:59:28.239
<v Speaker 3>and I promise I'm not stealing this from Nick, but

2041
01:59:29.239 --> 01:59:31.560
<v Speaker 3>I went on the Cult of Conspiracy to kind of

2042
01:59:31.600 --> 01:59:35.279
<v Speaker 3>wrap up this topic, and I said, people get confused

2043
01:59:35.399 --> 01:59:37.800
<v Speaker 3>because they say, is it the government or is it

2044
01:59:38.079 --> 01:59:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Satanists or And I'm like, you're already you're already lost

2045
01:59:43.159 --> 01:59:49.560
<v Speaker 3>by asking that question, because the government and Satanists are

2046
01:59:50.079 --> 01:59:52.399
<v Speaker 3>one and the same thing. I mean, it's like you

2047
01:59:52.439 --> 01:59:55.479
<v Speaker 3>don't have to separate that shit out. You can't say, oh, well,

2048
01:59:55.520 --> 01:59:59.079
<v Speaker 3>this is governmental and this is satanic. Now that shit

2049
01:59:59.199 --> 02:00:02.479
<v Speaker 3>is pretty much like two wings of the same diseased bird,

2050
02:00:03.199 --> 02:00:03.399
<v Speaker 3>you know.

2051
02:00:04.760 --> 02:00:07.640
<v Speaker 10>And all of the episodes that we're going through, I mean,

2052
02:00:07.680 --> 02:00:11.800
<v Speaker 10>we're seeing that the OSS has Nazi ties, and if

2053
02:00:11.800 --> 02:00:14.760
<v Speaker 10>you look back at the Nazi Party, where are their origins?

2054
02:00:15.560 --> 02:00:20.039
<v Speaker 11>OSS? Backtrack to Nazi backtracked to what the occult.

2055
02:00:20.560 --> 02:00:25.079
<v Speaker 10>The occult is the premise of the entire Nazi philosophy.

2056
02:00:25.399 --> 02:00:27.600
<v Speaker 10>And so you look at OSS and then up until

2057
02:00:27.680 --> 02:00:31.119
<v Speaker 10>nineteen forty seven, what happens to the OSS It morphs

2058
02:00:31.159 --> 02:00:35.600
<v Speaker 10>into the CIA morphs, right, I mean, I don't know

2059
02:00:35.600 --> 02:00:37.880
<v Speaker 10>if I'm saying that correctly, JJ, but you know, you

2060
02:00:38.000 --> 02:00:43.000
<v Speaker 10>have all these intelligence agencies just basically repackaged, rebranding, and

2061
02:00:43.039 --> 02:00:45.960
<v Speaker 10>now we're you know, wearing new suits. We're wearing new

2062
02:00:46.920 --> 02:00:49.479
<v Speaker 10>but it's still the same philosophy, it's still the same practice,

2063
02:00:49.520 --> 02:00:52.199
<v Speaker 10>it's still the same memo. And so to you know,

2064
02:00:52.239 --> 02:00:55.319
<v Speaker 10>to your point, it proves it right there, this is

2065
02:00:55.439 --> 02:00:58.520
<v Speaker 10>the this is the actual pedigree.

2066
02:00:58.680 --> 02:01:02.720
<v Speaker 3>Really well, and you know, the OSS is just like

2067
02:01:02.760 --> 02:01:05.960
<v Speaker 3>you said, the precursor for the u C. I A

2068
02:01:06.119 --> 02:01:09.640
<v Speaker 3>but fun fact of the day. Do you know who

2069
02:01:09.720 --> 02:01:15.760
<v Speaker 3>Jackson Brown is? He's big in the Yeah, Jackson Brown,

2070
02:01:15.800 --> 02:01:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Who's big and kind of like the Laurel Kenyon era.

2071
02:01:19.840 --> 02:01:23.199
<v Speaker 3>His dad was O. S. S. So, I mean, like,

2072
02:01:23.680 --> 02:01:26.399
<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna you're not gonna get away from any

2073
02:01:26.439 --> 02:01:31.039
<v Speaker 3>of these counterculture like these major artists having some type

2074
02:01:31.039 --> 02:01:33.479
<v Speaker 3>of military connections or some weird ship like that.

2075
02:01:33.760 --> 02:01:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Julia Child, what.

2076
02:01:40.760 --> 02:01:41.680
<v Speaker 12>Are you making a joke?

2077
02:01:47.039 --> 02:01:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god? Hey, you know the guy that hosted

2078
02:01:50.560 --> 02:01:59.680
<v Speaker 3>the Gong Show. He said he was a CIA operative

2079
02:02:00.039 --> 02:02:03.960
<v Speaker 3>and that he killed thirty three people and that. Yeah,

2080
02:02:04.000 --> 02:02:06.039
<v Speaker 3>and he said he hosted the Gong Show as his

2081
02:02:06.159 --> 02:02:11.760
<v Speaker 3>side job. I just learned about this, So, I mean, dude,

2082
02:02:12.159 --> 02:02:14.039
<v Speaker 3>and I think a lot of these celebs, by the

2083
02:02:14.039 --> 02:02:18.680
<v Speaker 3>way that get murdered or they commit suicide. I don't

2084
02:02:18.720 --> 02:02:21.159
<v Speaker 3>think they're actually dead, most of them. And they go

2085
02:02:21.239 --> 02:02:24.279
<v Speaker 3>on there they kill the character off right, and the

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<v Speaker 3>actual person goes on to do something else. Elvis, Michael Jackson,

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<v Speaker 3>fucking Robin Williams. Like a lot of these they kill

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Morrison, Yes, I believe that one for sure. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people say Jimmy Hendricks as well. They kill

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<v Speaker 3>off their right so they kill off their main character

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<v Speaker 3>and then they just go on to either A play

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<v Speaker 3>another character or b they just live out the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of their life totally anonymous.

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<v Speaker 6>So Bill Hicks Alex Jones, you cannot convince me that

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<v Speaker 6>that is not Alex Jones.

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<v Speaker 12>Where the god?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's one. Oh my god, come on, girl, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Agree with you. That one seems pretty uh, pretty on

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<v Speaker 1>point with that one. All the details between the two guys.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the mere fact Alex Jones accepts comedy awards

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<v Speaker 5>and Bill Hicks's name should be enough evidence.

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<v Speaker 12>What's that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's on video doing it. He's on video accepting

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<v Speaker 1>an award and Bill Hick's name.

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<v Speaker 12>How does that make it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god? Well, I mean, hey, I'm definitely not

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<v Speaker 3>going to put it outside the roma possibility because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>the one who thinks this grand theory about people playing

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<v Speaker 3>characters is fucking true. But it's an example maybe, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love Jim Morrison's Rush Limball though. He

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<v Speaker 1>was great.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I heard that one just recently.

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<v Speaker 5>I heard they have so many similarities, even down to

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<v Speaker 5>the gold microphone.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard that one. That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, fat Jim Morrison looks identical to Russian Blimball,

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<v Speaker 5>one of the last known fetows of Morrison before he died,

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<v Speaker 5>identical to a young Limball, and Limball.

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<v Speaker 1>Is deeply connected in Spooky Savies for Generations.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just talking to my boyfriend Kolby about this

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<v Speaker 3>the other day and we were talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the Val Kilmer movie where he plays Jim Morrison. All right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the Doors. Okay, so he looked exactly like him, performed

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<v Speaker 3>exactly like him, sounded exactly like him, and it was amazing, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>But wouldn't it be a cooler movie if somebody took

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<v Speaker 3>the actual story of Jim Morrison and made a fucking

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<v Speaker 3>movie it Like, your dad is fucking high level military,

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<v Speaker 3>fucking tnking golf shit, Vietnam War is all your fault,

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<v Speaker 3>and you become like this superstar fucking Jim Morrison, fucking

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<v Speaker 3>light my fire bullshit, and then you fake your own

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<v Speaker 3>death and then you become regal inba and liked. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a fucking movie right there. The Vlkilmer one was cool,

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<v Speaker 3>but somebody fucking make that a movie because that's the

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<v Speaker 3>What did they say, like reality is stranger than fiction?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, we would be a better tale, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I love more entertaining interesting. I'm sure. All right, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess we'll wrap it up now, right, everybody's good. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much again, Julia for coming on. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of stuff that was really fun and interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Please let everybody know where they can find your stuff

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<v Speaker 2>one more time.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks. I have Cosmic Peach podcasts. It's available wherever you

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<v Speaker 3>listen to podcasts. If you want ad free exclusive stuff,

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02:06:06.720 --> 02:06:09.359
<v Speaker 3>you can go on Patreon and look for Cosmic Peach.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually working on a new series. I'll give you

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<v Speaker 3>like a little teaser for it. But I watched this

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<v Speaker 3>show called The Dark Side of the Nineties and it

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<v Speaker 3>was just like this a Hulu thing. It was like

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<v Speaker 3>kind of retarded but kind of interesting at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>And they were talking about the dark side of the nineties,

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<v Speaker 3>and like the darkest they went was like somebody killed

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<v Speaker 3>somebody else over a beanie baby, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not the dark side of the nineties. Can

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<v Speaker 3>we talk about like Courtney Loa, Kurt Cobain and like

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<v Speaker 3>all this creazy OJ and fucking like that's the dark

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<v Speaker 3>side of the nineties. So I got like a little

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<v Speaker 3>Project bruin with that, and I think some of you

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<v Speaker 3>might be nineties babies, but I think it it's all

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<v Speaker 3>super nostalgic and it's interesting and fun to talk about anyways.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's like Heaven's Gate cult and like all kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of shit that brokeludes in the nineties. So yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>you can look forward to that eventually. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>try to have it done by February.

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<v Speaker 4>Well sounds good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you, thank you very much. I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm almost positive your stuff is already in the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of my show notes on my end. Yeah, so if

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<v Speaker 2>anybody wants to go check r stuff out, it's there now.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you all again for jumping on the show. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you Lisa, thank you Headless, thank you JJ, thank you Teresa,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you Mike, and thank you everybody who jumped

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<v Speaker 2>in on the chat. That's what's up. They had a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of people here and it's nice seeing some new

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<v Speaker 2>names from I guess JJ side were Headless. Thank you all.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the end of another occult to Rejects and

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<v Speaker 2>until the next one, everybody be will later