Speaker 1: You created everything, what put a powerful being you are?
Speaker 2: You did these things, but now you're in a human body,
Speaker 2: you forget the power you have.
Speaker 3: What you do is what the whole universe is doing
Speaker 3: at the place you call here, and now you are
Speaker 3: something the whole universe is doing, in the same way
Speaker 3: that a way is something that the whole ocean is doing.
Speaker 4: You're doing, You're doing what.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Metimistics where you don't know what? You don't know?
Speaker 2: My name's Jonathan Sean Tiffany, don't I don't know if
Speaker 2: you know that we changed the name of our show
Speaker 2: to Metamistics.
Speaker 1: Have you heard.
Speaker 5: I was just going to comment on that. I mean,
Speaker 5: I yes, of course I listened to you guys, so
Speaker 5: changed but I don't know, uh why you did.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it was kind of.
Speaker 4: Like it like made people understand your show more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess, So mysteries, I guess could
Speaker 2: kind of really be anything. You know, the mysteries are
Speaker 2: more of like a an initiated kind of a situation
Speaker 2: going on there, you know, trying to delve into the mysteries,
Speaker 2: which you know, which is really cool, But I don't
Speaker 2: know mystics. It just feels right.
Speaker 6: You know. I just felt like something that we would
Speaker 6: want to embody, you know what I mean, really trying
Speaker 6: to understand the the fullness and vastness of this this reality,
Speaker 6: you know, rather than saying, oh, you know, it's just
Speaker 6: all a mystery and we'll never kind of figure it out.
Speaker 6: Let's let's at least figure out and understand what we
Speaker 6: can and and take that. And I don't know, it
Speaker 6: just felt right.
Speaker 4: It did like your opening gam though, the opening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh well mm each yeah, yeah, it's a different,
Speaker 2: different intro for each one. Oh, jeffany you know what,
Speaker 2: for any of those who maybe this is their first
Speaker 2: time listening to you, could you tell the one out
Speaker 2: there where they can find you what you're about? You know,
Speaker 2: who are you to the newbie?
Speaker 4: Who are we all? I am?
Speaker 5: Well, I had a spiritual shop I've closed.
Speaker 4: Last time I talked to you guys, it was still open.
Speaker 6: Huh.
Speaker 5: Then I went through a collapse and discovery of oneself
Speaker 5: and I'm still I guess you're just always.
Speaker 4: Going through that.
Speaker 5: But now I'm doing everything online and so I'm an
Speaker 5: intuitive reader oracle reader, and I like to go down
Speaker 5: rabbit holes and I have a podcast. Well, I actually
Speaker 5: have three podcasts now, but one podcast that you can
Speaker 5: go check out if you go on YouTube Rooted Freak
Speaker 5: and see Lovely.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like, you know, and it's and it's
Speaker 2: sad to say, but where I feel like we're probably
Speaker 2: moving into a day and age where you know, most
Speaker 2: people are just going online for everything. And it's sad
Speaker 2: because going into a metaphysical uh, a metaphysical shop is special,
Speaker 2: Like there is something magnetic about going in there. As
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, the first time I met you, well,
Speaker 2: the first time I did a show with you, I
Speaker 2: was in Christie's Metaphysical Shop, and you know that was
Speaker 2: a whole situation. Don't get me started on that. But
Speaker 2: going in there every day was special. You know, you
Speaker 2: got to see the crystals and all the tarot cards,
Speaker 2: and somebody was always burning incense or sage or and
Speaker 2: there was always somebody receiving a reading and you kind
Speaker 2: of wanted to be a little peep and Tom and
Speaker 2: be like, I wonder what's going on in her life?
Speaker 2: You know, it was always just magic over there, and
Speaker 2: really loved it. So it is sad, but you know
Speaker 2: what you're you're still going and you still got it online?
Speaker 2: What what is the name of that? Uh, the online shop?
Speaker 4: Oh, I am selling crystal on whatnot?
Speaker 2: Oh and what not? What not is awesome? I do
Speaker 2: like that, my sister does.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's fun. It's a lot of work, and
Speaker 5: everyone expects a crystal for a dollar. Like I don't
Speaker 5: want to pay more than a dollar for anything. So
Speaker 5: but I mean I've I've done pretty well. I like
Speaker 5: sold pretty much everything from my shop. But yeah, like
Speaker 5: it's been quite a journey because my shop actually was
Speaker 5: doing well. It closed for a plethora of reasons. But
Speaker 5: I really honestly think that when stuff happens in life
Speaker 5: that doesn't make any sense, Like on paper, I was
Speaker 5: doing well and I was trying to expand, and I
Speaker 5: just kind of ended up, you know, hooking my horse
Speaker 5: to the wrong wait, hooking my.
Speaker 4: And this per like ended up scamming me.
Speaker 5: So but the fact that everything happened the way it
Speaker 5: did and everything was going so well and I did,
Speaker 5: I still believe in what I was building. I know
Speaker 5: for a fact that that's even more proof that the
Speaker 5: universe stepped in and I was like, no, this is
Speaker 5: not the direction for you, because there's there's no logical
Speaker 5: reason that it didn't work out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. You know, there's there's a lot of
Speaker 2: things that really don't make any sense, like in the moment,
Speaker 2: you know, and that's that's the most difficult thing, because
Speaker 2: you feel like you're doing the right thing. You feel
Speaker 2: like you did everything right to get up to that point,
Speaker 2: and sometimes things just don't work out, and you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's unfortunate. But ultimately I feel like, call it
Speaker 2: the universe, the one God whatever, probably wouldn't have laid
Speaker 2: that on you if if it knew that you couldn't
Speaker 2: handle it, you know. And and it was like the.
Speaker 5: Best thing ever that even like the week after it
Speaker 5: happened people expected me to be I was like, it
Speaker 5: felt like this boulder was lifted off my back, and
Speaker 5: I realized I was being limited trying to think so big,
Speaker 5: if that makes sense, because I was stretched so thin
Speaker 5: and just doing stuff one on one in my shop
Speaker 5: and like book solid and it was just not sustainable.
Speaker 5: So I was like, well, no, I will do it
Speaker 5: all online and it's way better.
Speaker 6: Hey, well that's great. It's just another step in your journey,
Speaker 6: you know, if you're spread so thin and you're doing
Speaker 6: all these things and you're completely booked up. It's like,
Speaker 6: where's the time for Tiffany? You know, I feel like
Speaker 6: you still need to have experiences and really try to
Speaker 6: especially in this spiritual realm, like what the fuck's really
Speaker 6: going on anymore? You know, So for you to have
Speaker 6: that time for yourself and really even just to meditate
Speaker 6: or go walk around in the woods or whatever it is,
Speaker 6: you know, like you need those types of experiences to
Speaker 6: really kind of have these epiphanies or whatever it is,
Speaker 6: you know that just happens to come to.
Speaker 2: You can't pour from an empty cup, as they say.
Speaker 6: That's right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like even yesterday I had time. This is fun, guys.
Speaker 5: I went outside. So I've been like on this well,
Speaker 5: I'm always on rabbit holes, right, but I've been trying
Speaker 5: to study connections between a bunch of different stuff, a
Speaker 5: lot of quantum explanations going through the Codex and harmonic
Speaker 5: frequency things like that. So I went outside and I
Speaker 5: kind of built my own experiment and I had like
Speaker 5: a spreadsheet and I tried to manipulate the cars that
Speaker 5: drove by, like the colors of the cars. I'm on
Speaker 5: a busy road the back of my house. So I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, I use this so basically like meditating,
Speaker 5: and then you.
Speaker 4: Like fold up a paper like papers with.
Speaker 5: You know, yellow, red, black, white, and then you draw
Speaker 5: one so that it's totally up to chance. And then
Speaker 5: I would count like twenty five cars. But before you take,
Speaker 5: you know, you do breath and then you kind of
Speaker 5: focus like really hard on the color that you and
Speaker 5: you start seeing like only that.
Speaker 4: Color go by.
Speaker 5: It's pretty crazy because and then you can look up
Speaker 5: like the statistical probability or you know, chat GPT, like
Speaker 5: what's the statistical probability for like blue cars? Like I
Speaker 5: did blue cars and I there was eleven out of
Speaker 5: twenty five and that's like extremely high, like there should
Speaker 5: have been only like three or two. So what I'm
Speaker 5: just like, what I'm discovering is that I mean, not
Speaker 5: that I'm discovering but feeling deeper, I guess, is this
Speaker 5: connection between that everything's true, like we are in some
Speaker 5: sort of simulation, we do have control over our reality,
Speaker 5: Like everything has little bits of truth and they're all
Speaker 5: sprinkled in there, and if we can like work our
Speaker 5: way through those things, I think it's like we slowly master.
Speaker 6: Life you're the one, Neil, she's beginning to believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel that way too. Like, for example,
Speaker 2: you know how whenever you're around certain people, it's like
Speaker 2: the energy changes no matter who it is. Could be good,
Speaker 2: could be bad, could just be you know, even keel,
Speaker 2: whatever it is. But there seems to be some kind
Speaker 2: of energy energy shift every time you're spending more than
Speaker 2: just a few minutes with somebody or around somebody. And
Speaker 2: so I recently just moved to Arizona last week, and
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm out here. I'm staying in my
Speaker 2: parents guest house to try and save up some money
Speaker 2: so eventually, you know, move back and that whole thing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's so weird because I'm used to
Speaker 2: living by myself and now, you know, by myself and
Speaker 2: my kids and everything. But but now I'm I'm living
Speaker 2: with basically two more adults, and it's it's like a
Speaker 2: different code going on. Like it feels so strange, like
Speaker 2: just to just trying to observe it, not for what
Speaker 2: you know, I think it is, but just observing it
Speaker 2: for what it may be I guess. And dude, I
Speaker 2: tell you what it feels like. Reality is just totally different.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how else to explain that. Maybe
Speaker 2: that's just more of a weird thing that I'm personally experiencing.
Speaker 2: It's also a full moon tonight. I think it's the
Speaker 2: Is it the Hunter's moon tonight?
Speaker 6: Oh I'm not sure, but I did notice it's a full.
Speaker 4: Moon, so that's the Hunter's Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really strange, but not just you. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: you feel that way too, like being around not I mean,
Speaker 2: it's my parents. It's not somebody that's brand new, but
Speaker 2: you know, it's brand new to be as much around
Speaker 2: them as I am.
Speaker 5: Now, you know, well, I mean there's a huge cheft
Speaker 5: happening right now. And I think even you know, the
Speaker 5: whole everyone was waiting for the rapture that was.
Speaker 4: Supposed to happen.
Speaker 5: So I did like a whole post on that it
Speaker 5: did happen, Okay, but it wasn't like the end of
Speaker 5: the world, but it was the end of the world
Speaker 5: as we knew it. The entire frequency of our world shifted,
Speaker 5: and we've known as spiritual beings that we've been going
Speaker 5: from a three D universe to a five D And
Speaker 5: this is part of it, because we are used to
Speaker 5: going through individual ascension, and some people have been going
Speaker 5: through it longer than others, but now we're experiencing a
Speaker 5: collective ascension and it's the first time for it, so
Speaker 5: we're reaching these milestones energetically together for the first time.
Speaker 4: And that's why things feel so freaking different.
Speaker 5: And it's like the Earth herself is ascending as well.
Speaker 5: So like it's not just I hear it from everyone.
Speaker 5: It's like the world has never felt so real yet
Speaker 5: so not real, and that's the only way it seems
Speaker 5: like everyone can kind of explain it.
Speaker 4: It's like you're looking and you're like, that's not a
Speaker 4: real tree.
Speaker 5: But I've never felt like the you know, but I've
Speaker 5: never felt like the veil, so so it's like so bizarre.
Speaker 2: It is really bizarre the feeling, you know. And and
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe I was just equating that to
Speaker 2: move in out here, but yeah, it seems like something
Speaker 2: is really off. Like I almost feel like you ever
Speaker 2: noticed whenever whenever you have a lucid dream and everybody's
Speaker 2: wearing a hat, but you decide to take your hat off,
Speaker 2: and everybody stares at you and they're like, whoa, what's
Speaker 2: this guy not wearing a hat. What's going on here?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: And they're like, hold on, like you just threw an
Speaker 2: entire wrench into the machine that we got going on
Speaker 2: over here. It's almost as if you were to just
Speaker 2: take all your clothes off run around naked like that feeling,
Speaker 2: you know. And man, it's it does seem like it's
Speaker 2: strange right now. And I've been having even the strangest dreams,
Speaker 2: like dreams that I normally wouldn't even normally dream. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's like things that I'm not even thinking about,
Speaker 2: you know. And I know that the subconscious picks up
Speaker 2: on a lot of things and whatever, but yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know, because normally your dreams kind
Speaker 2: of play off of your desires or your fears or
Speaker 2: something like that, right, not so much lately, you know,
Speaker 2: just to get weird, you want to hear.
Speaker 4: What I was thinking of the other day.
Speaker 5: So, like, you know, if like all of the like
Speaker 5: the observer effect in quantum physics. So they say, like,
Speaker 5: that's kind of why, like the elite is so obsessed
Speaker 5: with making themselves have some sort of legacy, because it's
Speaker 5: like if no one's looking at you, do you exist?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: So I was like thinking about it and going down
Speaker 5: my multiple dimension parallel peeps line of thinking, and what
Speaker 5: if when we go to sleep the world ceases to
Speaker 5: exist and so we hop over to other timelines.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the many world's interpretation, right.
Speaker 4: They think our world stops existing.
Speaker 2: Well, ever, none of that. If you've ever seen there's
Speaker 2: this show called What's the show I'm thinking of Sean
Speaker 2: on Netflix? The oay Yeah right, yeah, yeah. I like
Speaker 2: it to where she dies and then she wakes up
Speaker 2: in another reality. Maybe she's rushing nice total.
Speaker 4: I totally think that's true.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no way to disprove it. You know.
Speaker 6: Sometimes it does feel that way, you know, like one
Speaker 6: day can be so different from the next, you know.
Speaker 6: And I did this thing where it was like a
Speaker 6: I don't remember if it was a full moon or
Speaker 6: a new moon, but we did this thing where we
Speaker 6: just kind of wrote down some things that we were
Speaker 6: trying to detach from release, you know, because it was
Speaker 6: no longer serving us. And the next day I definitely
Speaker 6: felt like there was a shift in just the whole
Speaker 6: experience of the day, everything around me. Every But then again,
Speaker 6: I'm like, well, I mean, if if in my subconscious mind,
Speaker 6: I accepted the fact that I released those things that
Speaker 6: no longer serve me. So now am I just experiencing
Speaker 6: that but at the subconscious level. And that's why it's
Speaker 6: so hard to put words to it, you know, It's
Speaker 6: just that's my reality.
Speaker 2: Now, dude. Right, Yeah, It's like, and this is something
Speaker 2: that I've been kind of playing around with, is like,
Speaker 2: you know how with especially within quantum mechanics, it'll say
Speaker 2: that whenever something is being observed, it'll act differently, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: And and I've been trying to like really think about that,
Speaker 2: like just as far as observing my own reality almost
Speaker 2: like from a bird's eye view, right. And I feel
Speaker 2: like whenever I'm like just sitting there observing, not trying
Speaker 2: to persuade it to go one way or another, right, like,
Speaker 2: not trying to manipulate reality or co create even it's
Speaker 2: just more of a you know, I'm just I'm just
Speaker 2: an old man on a porch watch in the cars
Speaker 2: go by kind of thing. And it's so strange because
Speaker 2: through my observation, and it's not even how I'm interpreting it.
Speaker 2: Through my observation, it seems different. It's almost as if
Speaker 2: when you observe life is so much different than when
Speaker 2: you don't observe. And that sounds crazy, but like our
Speaker 2: our observation changes the reality in which we live. Like
Speaker 2: that statement out loud is crazy, right, Like it's.
Speaker 6: Something crazy crazy though, Like how many times have you
Speaker 6: looked over because for some reason you just thought you
Speaker 6: had to look over and somebody was just staring at
Speaker 6: you from the car next to you, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, And then all of a sudden they look
Speaker 6: away and act like they weren't just staring at you,
Speaker 6: Like there was a reason you felt like there was
Speaker 6: some some disturbance in the force, you know, and you
Speaker 6: had to like you were being observed, you know, Like
Speaker 6: what is that? Why does that happen?
Speaker 2: How you can just feel it in the first place?
Speaker 6: Exactly?
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Well look, Tiffany, we did have you on
Speaker 2: for a reason, Tiya. We're happy to get mystical and
Speaker 2: weird up in this beach with you anytime, really, but
Speaker 2: we wanted to learn a little bit about the gene
Speaker 2: keys with you. This is something that I hear a
Speaker 2: lot of people talking about, you know, and from what
Speaker 2: I understand, it's almost pretty relatable to the eaching, which
Speaker 2: I would love to do an episode on that as well.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll cover a little bit of it tonight. But
Speaker 2: the e ching has been around for over three thousand
Speaker 2: years and it's I mean, it's a very old form
Speaker 2: of divination, long before tarot, long before just about any
Speaker 2: modern divinatory thing that you can do. And so what
Speaker 2: is it about the gene keys, Like, can you just
Speaker 2: tell us and explain it to us a little bit
Speaker 2: about what's really going on?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And I also think those things that you just described
Speaker 5: something that's important for people to know. Is really it's
Speaker 5: all just ways to understand the way energy works. And
Speaker 5: that's the whole point all of these little things human design,
Speaker 5: the chakra system and gene keys, it's all connected, you know,
Speaker 5: and it's how our energy flows and kind of our purpose.
Speaker 4: Gene keys can.
Speaker 5: Definitely give us a little bit more of a insight
Speaker 5: into purpose, I guess. But everything kind of works together,
Speaker 5: so I think it's all worth exploring for yourself. And
Speaker 5: this is another one of those things if anybody has
Speaker 5: heard me talk about human design, that you can go
Speaker 5: online and for free type in your birth chart details
Speaker 5: and pull it up and there's some really good actually
Speaker 5: I'll send you guys a link of the one that
Speaker 5: I like so that you can put.
Speaker 4: It with this episode. Sure for people if they want
Speaker 4: to look that up.
Speaker 5: But basically, you know, this is another one of those
Speaker 5: concepts that this one was developed by Richard Rudd and
Speaker 5: it what I like about it is that I've been
Speaker 5: getting I think DNA is very important and we don't
Speaker 5: like when we think of DNA, we think of just
Speaker 5: you know, our genetic makeup as humans. Our DNA carries
Speaker 5: spiritual makeup. And I think that's what so many of
Speaker 5: these scientists have tried to explain through these different systems
Speaker 5: that they've came up with. So this explains like our
Speaker 5: how our DNA has we're born with certain challenges, we're
Speaker 5: born with certain gifts, same thing with like human design, right,
Speaker 5: But by understanding these.
Speaker 4: Keys there's sixty four keys, they say, you.
Speaker 5: Can kind of like unlock your highest potential, so you
Speaker 5: can really use it as kind of like your life journey.
Speaker 4: So similar to like if you've ever had.
Speaker 5: A really deep astrology reading where someone if you ever
Speaker 5: sit down with somebody like that, they can either like
Speaker 5: tell you how you're affected right now or everything when
Speaker 5: you were born, and even you know, I had one
Speaker 5: woman who was very good with astrology.
Speaker 4: I'm not an expert in astrology. It's very in depth,
Speaker 4: but she was.
Speaker 5: Able to like go through and say, okay, so this
Speaker 5: right here shows your teen years and this says that
Speaker 5: you would have had a struggle in this area and
Speaker 5: it was true.
Speaker 4: So I think all of these things kind of map
Speaker 4: out energetically. It's almost like.
Speaker 5: Experiences that were that we're supposed to have right to
Speaker 5: shape who we are, and it might be a little bit.
Speaker 5: I always say we do have free will, but it's
Speaker 5: more like even listening to this woman, you know, if
Speaker 5: I was supposed to have an experience of being like
Speaker 5: taken advantage of by like a male energy, that could
Speaker 5: be you know, taking care. Like there's so many different
Speaker 5: ways that can come through, you know, like with a
Speaker 5: father figure, with a boyfriend, with a friend, with an employer,
Speaker 5: like so many different ways. So we have like free
Speaker 5: will in that way. But our ups and downs I
Speaker 5: think are totally built in. So looking at the which
Speaker 5: I did both of your charts, did you guys look
Speaker 5: at them?
Speaker 2: I did? I actually have them pulled up right now?
Speaker 5: Oh shit, I added stuff today too, So I have
Speaker 5: like so people could see like.
Speaker 4: A little intro to Jane Keys because it is in depth.
Speaker 5: So when we look at like each gene key, there's
Speaker 5: a shadow, a gift, and your city, which is like.
Speaker 4: Your enlightened expression.
Speaker 5: So you know pretty much everything spiritually that we talk
Speaker 5: about doing shadow work, we talk about like you know,
Speaker 5: through the shadow work is how we kind of explore
Speaker 5: and find our light and release those things and then
Speaker 5: we can kind of arrive at this place of spiritual enlightenment.
Speaker 2: Right, So is that the same city the the the
Speaker 2: Hindus talk about is like almost like a supernatural power.
Speaker 5: M okay, yeah, so like yeah, and I always just
Speaker 5: think of it, like I don't know, every time I
Speaker 5: hear it, I just think of like this really enlightened
Speaker 5: Buddhist monk sitting on top of a mountain.
Speaker 4: But I mean that's like essentially kind of.
Speaker 5: What it is like you get to this place where
Speaker 5: you are one connected with everything, right yeah.
Speaker 2: And I mean where I first started about that was
Speaker 2: the h The Autobiography of a Yogi by paramhase Yokananda. Dude,
Speaker 2: that book is if anybody is interested in any like upgrades,
Speaker 2: potentially if you want to try and figure out what
Speaker 2: your forget the human body, what you are capable of
Speaker 2: becoming and doing and accessing. These things are incredible, you know,
Speaker 2: And and people literally dedicate their lives within meditation and
Speaker 2: fasting and abstaining from, you know, all of life's pleasures,
Speaker 2: and they're able to achieve these crazy superpowers, you know,
Speaker 2: like being able to create a scent in your hand,
Speaker 2: or being able to levitate, or being able to have
Speaker 2: super strength, or like astro projection and the wildest things,
Speaker 2: and and you hear about it, like you'll hear about
Speaker 2: even there's there's saints that have achieved this form of
Speaker 2: remote viewing to where they're able to go and visit
Speaker 2: somebody in real time with like their energy body or
Speaker 2: their astral body. And the people think that they're actually
Speaker 2: talking to this person that is astral projecting or remote viewing,
Speaker 2: and it's so crazy and they're like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 2: just saw him last week, so they they believe that
Speaker 2: they're seeing like him, like his body, right, you know,
Speaker 2: the person that is astu projecting or whatever. And the
Speaker 2: one saint, I can't remember what his name, but he
Speaker 2: liked it might have been, but there was another one
Speaker 2: there was like a Catholic saint that was able to
Speaker 2: go out of his body and visit all these people
Speaker 2: went up. He went up and like visited somebody as
Speaker 2: they were flying a fucking plane or something. It was crazy, right,
Speaker 2: And he went back to like go and try and
Speaker 2: talk to him. And I guess the person that was
Speaker 2: at the monastery or the person that was at the
Speaker 2: church says, oh, yeah, he never comes out of his room,
Speaker 2: so you couldn't have You couldn't have seen him like
Speaker 2: he was there the whole time, right, And so it's
Speaker 2: it's and this is the thing. It's not demonic like
Speaker 2: people that just instantly assume that we can do these
Speaker 2: supernatural things. It is not a demonic thing. It is
Speaker 2: something that not even the human is capable of. It's
Speaker 2: something that you, as the spirit, as the soul, as
Speaker 2: the energy, the thing that never dies, is capable of.
Speaker 2: And I just love learning about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: So I'm stoked to hear about the cities.
Speaker 5: You know what I think it is though, because you
Speaker 5: just brought up something I recently was thinking about. I
Speaker 5: think that when people meditate and they reach this certain level,
Speaker 5: I think it's all of this stuff, which is why
Speaker 5: I wanted to tie it back into like the Codex
Speaker 5: and Robert Grant's work, because once you understand how the
Speaker 5: universe works, It's like Nikola Tesla saying that once you
Speaker 5: understood that the harmonics of everything in the numbers, that
Speaker 5: you could control the universe. I think it has to
Speaker 5: do with understanding that like dimensional space doesn't exist. So
Speaker 5: do you remember when all of those like CIA documents
Speaker 5: were released where they showed all of the experience experiments
Speaker 5: that they did in like the seventies and eighties on
Speaker 5: psychic space.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like kids, Project Stargate and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So there was like one with this kid that if
Speaker 4: you go through and read it. They had an envelope
Speaker 4: and they.
Speaker 5: Sealed it, and they told the kid that he had
Speaker 5: to like get the letter out of the envelope without
Speaker 5: opening the envelope. So he would and it didn't even
Speaker 5: take that long, like he would focus and he did
Speaker 5: sure enough, and they did this like over and over again.
Speaker 5: He was able to take the letter out and he
Speaker 5: was also able to put it back in seamlessly, and
Speaker 5: they said it would just like disappear and appear. So
Speaker 5: I was like talking about that with my husband, and
Speaker 5: you know, he's not very like spiritual, and he's.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, but what's your what's your source for this?
Speaker 5: I was like Cia Dove like these are Documentari's like
Speaker 5: oh okay, but I was.
Speaker 4: Like, you know, let me explain it.
Speaker 5: And then I was like okay because I watched this
Speaker 5: one video that was like really eye opening for me.
Speaker 5: When you think about like two D three D, so
Speaker 5: we like see everything in three D.
Speaker 4: But like if we were.
Speaker 5: Cartoon characters and we saw everything in two D, then
Speaker 5: like you could have you know, a like a box
Speaker 5: or whatever, you know, but it would look like a
Speaker 5: piece of paper.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: So let's say the back of the box is open,
Speaker 5: so to a two dimensional person, they have this piece
Speaker 5: of paper and they're like, you know, oh, get the
Speaker 5: piece of paper out of there. But we're three D,
Speaker 5: so we go okay, and then you go around the
Speaker 5: back of the box and they're like, holy shit, that
Speaker 5: like that just appeared out of nowhere, because that's what
Speaker 5: it would look like, like it would your hand, like
Speaker 5: everything would disappear and then just appear. So I was like,
Speaker 5: I bet that's just My theory is that they have
Speaker 5: a kind of mastered understanding that there's more dimensions that
Speaker 5: we can't see, so like they're going into a fifth dimensional,
Speaker 5: sixth dimensional, you know seven to access these things.
Speaker 4: There's probably like.
Speaker 5: An opening and they're like boom, you know. And I
Speaker 5: don't know if they think of it like that or
Speaker 5: if other dimensions once you access those, if it's not
Speaker 5: even physical and it's in our minds.
Speaker 4: So that's my thinking, but well, let me think about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so interesting too, like all that remote viewing
Speaker 2: stuff and yeah, there's a there was some kind of
Speaker 2: convention that was just a couple of weeks ago that
Speaker 2: was specifically on that that I was kind of following
Speaker 2: as it went by, and it's like games or yeah,
Speaker 2: the side games. Yeah yeah, yeahah, dude, that is so
Speaker 2: crazy how it's going down. And I know that it
Speaker 2: kind of starts simple, right, like you know, whenever I
Speaker 2: first looked into the uh you know that kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: and you're looking into like, oh, I want to see
Speaker 2: how they're bending spoons because you think that like spoon
Speaker 2: bending is exactly like the matrix would be like bending
Speaker 2: it with your mind, and it kind of is that way.
Speaker 2: The more I kind of wrap my mind around it,
Speaker 2: because what they're doing is they're taking a spoon, and spoons,
Speaker 2: you know, they're not impossible to bend, but to bend
Speaker 2: them and twist them in the way that they're doing.
Speaker 2: Once their mind wraps around that this reality is not
Speaker 2: so set in stone, it seems a bit impossible. I mean,
Speaker 2: they're able to twist this thing around like a corkscrew like,
Speaker 2: and that's only after getting into a meditative state and
Speaker 2: understanding with their mind that this is all just basically,
Speaker 2: for a lack of a better word, just a dream,
Speaker 2: just a matrix, just the simulation or whatever, and you're
Speaker 2: becoming awake in it to where now the spoon it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter the amount of force that you have to
Speaker 2: apply to it, because you understand that the force that
Speaker 2: you're applying to it is still only the physical force
Speaker 2: that you're alluding from this physical world in the first place.
Speaker 2: It's all it's basically all about just getting your mind
Speaker 2: out of the way, and once you can get your
Speaker 2: mind out of the way, the obstacles become a little
Speaker 2: bit easier. And I would say that probably applies to
Speaker 2: just about dan near everything right.
Speaker 4: Well, it's just the same thing with those Buddhist monks.
Speaker 5: There was the case where they were able to take
Speaker 5: like a really heavy statue, and there was that reporter
Speaker 5: that stayed at that monastery and witnessed them like basically
Speaker 5: making it light as a feather and they could make
Speaker 5: it float, which is obviously how like the pyramids were built.
Speaker 5: They understood how frequency affects matter and nothing's really completely
Speaker 5: dense or you know, so they would just change it.
Speaker 5: And that seems like that's what they're doing with the spoon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely does so, all right, so you're trying
Speaker 2: to say that the gene keys will point us in
Speaker 2: the direction of what cities are more easily accessible to
Speaker 2: the individual.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so, like you have a a hologenetic hologenetic profile,
Speaker 5: like I said, based on your birth info, and it
Speaker 5: can guide you through life's work, evolution, radiance, and purpose.
Speaker 5: So there's like sections that it's chunked into.
Speaker 4: Like all of the charts.
Speaker 5: So this is just where I like wrote bullet points
Speaker 5: for people. But if they look at like Johnathan, I
Speaker 5: think I have your yours first, right, so people can
Speaker 5: see so all of those are like your little gene
Speaker 5: keys and when they like pull out different patterns from
Speaker 5: within it. Those are the ones like you'll that you'll
Speaker 5: call out for this one's life's work, this one's evolution
Speaker 5: and seeing kind of how you transform through your life.
Speaker 5: So you can use it as a tool to just
Speaker 5: you know, and that's what everything is, right, just understanding
Speaker 5: ourselves more deeply, and the more we do, the more
Speaker 5: we uncover our gifts and the more we can kind
Speaker 5: of get fully in alignment with our highest self, with
Speaker 5: our purpose.
Speaker 2: So are the numbers like a rating system? What is
Speaker 2: the difference between the numbers?
Speaker 5: No, it's like so using like your your astrological chart,
Speaker 5: so same thing with human design, Like when along the
Speaker 5: side of your human design chart, those things are just
Speaker 5: built in when you're born. So there are like points,
Speaker 5: you know, astrologically speaking, that this dude put gene keys to.
Speaker 5: So you know, it's like just someone had a thought
Speaker 5: about this and just like anything else, created this system
Speaker 5: that to like explain how he saw our energy work.
Speaker 5: If that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yeah, because I was looking at it
Speaker 2: and I was like I I maybe twenty percent understand
Speaker 2: what's going on here.
Speaker 5: But it's not a rating system, So it's more thinking
Speaker 5: of like when we went over human design and like,
Speaker 5: you know that you have those gene keys in that.
Speaker 4: Particularly, like you could have a list of all.
Speaker 5: The gene keys, you know, and like what they are,
Speaker 5: and then they're plugged into your life, like plugged.
Speaker 4: Into your chart.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, like he said, it was like about the
Speaker 5: geometry of our own DNA, and this is like every
Speaker 5: time you start to do this, it just always blows
Speaker 5: my mind because there's just so much overlap. And I
Speaker 5: think that's what it's like, everyone's trying to explain kind
Speaker 5: of the same thing to help different the way all
Speaker 5: of our minds work differently, to help your light bulb
Speaker 5: moment go off.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why there's you know, forty thousand religions or whatever,
Speaker 2: all basically trying to explain the same thing, you know, roundabout.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it like, you know, obviously I like human
Speaker 5: design more talk about human design, but because that's like
Speaker 5: it incorporates so much stuff in the way energy moves
Speaker 5: through your body, so it's like your I guess you
Speaker 5: could kind of That's funny because today I sat with
Speaker 5: my son and we did homework and he's learning about
Speaker 5: the body. So he had to like write about like
Speaker 5: the circulatory system and the muscular system. So I just
Speaker 5: like thought, whoh, these could all be like that, Like
Speaker 5: the human design could be like your your circuitry, and
Speaker 5: like the codex could be your you know, like your
Speaker 5: nervous system, like.
Speaker 4: All of them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 5: So because it is like like a map of your
Speaker 5: soul and helping you to see it, you know.
Speaker 4: So it just like.
Speaker 5: Human design uses like a chakra system, this one's more
Speaker 5: life path, which human design does incorporate to.
Speaker 4: But this is like isolating that, you know.
Speaker 5: So when looking at this, you want to look at
Speaker 5: the different like sections.
Speaker 2: So right, so here.
Speaker 5: Now, and it's gonna be also like one of those
Speaker 5: It's it's not like I'm and I'm not an expert, okay,
Speaker 5: but I it's very involved. So don't get like overwhelmed
Speaker 5: by it or be like, oh I don't want to
Speaker 5: you know. It's like you plug in your stuff and
Speaker 5: it'll tell you your results, you know, and it'll just
Speaker 5: like pull out what resonates and ignore what doesn't, you know,
Speaker 5: because it's like little pieces of a puzzle to understand
Speaker 5: ourselves better essentially, So like people don't get overwhelmed. But
Speaker 5: like when we look at the main full profile, that
Speaker 5: just you know, don't even worry about that.
Speaker 4: But that's like everything that's your main profile.
Speaker 5: But if you look at which I did put so
Speaker 5: I tried to kind of put this so activation sequence
Speaker 5: here is it's written out. But then I also like
Speaker 5: stuck the screenshot, so that is like what they pulled
Speaker 5: out for your activation sequence. Your activation sequence is like,
Speaker 5: you know, your life's work, how you are going to
Speaker 5: evolve through, so activation like thinking of it as these
Speaker 5: moments through life and what is going to resonate to
Speaker 5: make you light up?
Speaker 4: You know, Like that's the way I.
Speaker 5: Explain it kind of because not like just what we
Speaker 5: were saying, like not everything is going to wake up
Speaker 5: everyone the same way or resonate the same way. You know,
Speaker 5: so you're built a specific way. Which side note three
Speaker 5: out of four of our main things are exactly the same, Jonathan,
Speaker 5: But that makes sense because we're very close our birthdays.
Speaker 2: Okay, But as I was going through there, so this
Speaker 2: life's work, now, help me just understand the flow. Here
Speaker 2: is it saying that all right, these are the possible
Speaker 2: things that this is the line of things that the
Speaker 2: line of possible outcomes that could happen to where if
Speaker 2: I'm if I'm not in alignment, then you have the dislocation.
Speaker 2: If you're more in alignment than you have finding clarity
Speaker 2: in alignment and flow for self or others. Is that
Speaker 2: how it works?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 5: So remember how every single gene key has that shadow
Speaker 5: and has the you know, the the light part of
Speaker 5: you that you discover when you acknowledge the shadow, and
Speaker 5: then the enlightenment. So it's it's like these three parts
Speaker 5: in every single gene key. So when we look at
Speaker 5: your activation sequence, your life's work is basically your shadow
Speaker 5: part of you is dislocation. So I guess maybe you
Speaker 5: could put that a lot of different ways. So maybe
Speaker 5: feel at a place right like in your life once
Speaker 5: you kind of were able to realize you felt out
Speaker 5: of place, then orientation, finding your your place in light,
Speaker 5: find finding an alignment and finding.
Speaker 4: Like your flow with other people.
Speaker 5: And then the big aha moment of you the guru
Speaker 5: sitting on top of the mountain, is that you've kind
Speaker 5: of mastered that part of your life and now it's unity.
Speaker 4: So you've dealt with.
Speaker 5: The shadow, You've discovered your your gift and your place
Speaker 5: and then you know you're in this place of unity.
Speaker 5: So it's like these trails of and that's why they
Speaker 5: say it's like our map of our purpose.
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, yeah, I see. So it's kind
Speaker 2: of like it, uh, maybe it starts this way and
Speaker 2: through experiencing dislocation or entropy or reaction or intolerance, these
Speaker 2: are the things that could be birth from them.
Speaker 5: Well, they are inherent, so it's like in your in
Speaker 5: your genes, and that doesn't necessarily like so intolerance, that
Speaker 5: doesn't mean that you are intolerant. That could mean that
Speaker 5: intolerance in some way shapes who you are. So maybe
Speaker 5: you are a person who when you see intolerance, it
Speaker 5: makes you like feel a lot of things and you
Speaker 5: want to first off, like maybe get involved in that,
Speaker 5: and so you want to understand. So it makes you
Speaker 5: want to kind of like get to the bottom of
Speaker 5: human behavior, you know. So you could look at this
Speaker 5: part of your purpose as you looking at the world
Speaker 5: through a lens of identifying areas of intolerance, you having
Speaker 5: understanding for both sides of it, and that your big
Speaker 5: gift is that you don't even judge. You have this
Speaker 5: beautiful way of forgiveness about you, but that as your
Speaker 5: purpose is meant to be.
Speaker 4: We have to think of it like an energy.
Speaker 5: So when you go around spreading forgiveness and having this
Speaker 5: way of understanding and reaching people, that spreads, so it's
Speaker 5: going to create harmony.
Speaker 4: Right. And then when we look at how your life's.
Speaker 5: Work, so your purpose is like forgiveness, your life's work unity, those.
Speaker 4: Go beautifully together.
Speaker 5: But shadows are you know, everything's yin and yang, so
Speaker 5: you're always going to have those those shadow parts of us.
Speaker 5: You know, it's more of a when we do spiritual work,
Speaker 5: we can finally shine a light on them, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, everything's on a pole, and you know,
Speaker 2: if there's light, then there has to be a shadow.
Speaker 2: And it's not to say that the light is always
Speaker 2: going to distinguish shadows necessarily. I mean, it's good to
Speaker 2: shine a light on those shadows, but I feel like
Speaker 2: inevitably more shadows are just going to get created at
Speaker 2: that point.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: Well, I think that the entire purpose of like being
Speaker 5: here is to completely understand ourselves, and I think part
Speaker 5: of it is finding a level of acceptance of all
Speaker 5: of those shadow parts that everything isn't black and white.
Speaker 5: And really it's coming to like this total area gray area.
Speaker 4: And again just to.
Speaker 5: Use my Buddhist monk, you know scenario. A Buddhist monk
Speaker 5: isn't going to get super excited about something, isn't going
Speaker 5: to get super mad about something. It's this contentment, you know,
Speaker 5: that you find. So it's like finding that gray area.
Speaker 5: So we have to understand shadows to understand light and
Speaker 5: find that gray.
Speaker 2: Area, which is perfect for the reaction as far as
Speaker 2: the radiance goes, because you know, you always have a
Speaker 2: choice to react, and a lot of people kind to
Speaker 2: get that confused. It's like, well, yeah, I'm reacting this way.
Speaker 2: Who wouldn't react this way? Meanwhile, that reaction is only
Speaker 2: creating basically an emotional instability withinside of you, and it's creating,
Speaker 2: if if nothing else, a temporary hell, you know. And
Speaker 2: so it's it's you listen to.
Speaker 5: How you just explain that. You just explain that exactly
Speaker 5: how I said you were born? Like you just said,
Speaker 5: how could someone not look at it? You're looking at
Speaker 5: things through a collective lens. Most people don't naturally do that,
Speaker 5: and to you, it's like, how can you not see
Speaker 5: it this way? Also, that's part of your projector but
Speaker 5: you you just like basically exactly said what I like.
Speaker 5: That's your purpose. That's why you see things differently from
Speaker 5: other people, and you have a way of bridging that
Speaker 5: where other people find.
Speaker 4: You know, uh, separation, you bridge it.
Speaker 2: You know, And that that's something that I'm learning more
Speaker 2: as the days go on. I am so grateful that
Speaker 2: I was not indoctrinated into a religion because I'm able
Speaker 2: to see it for what it is. And I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna lie. I did go through a little period of
Speaker 2: judgment of others, but only because it seems so obvious,
Speaker 2: you know, it seems so obvious that these are myths.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to have Yeah, I'm not even gonna
Speaker 2: touch on that, but it's like, you know, but and
Speaker 2: I got into a place to where I was becoming
Speaker 2: judgmental of others believing in something, and then that resonated,
Speaker 2: you know, that almost negative energy resonated deeply within me,
Speaker 2: and I was like, man, I don't want to be
Speaker 2: this person. I don't want to tell anybody that, you know,
Speaker 2: what they believe is false or wrong, or they're stupid,
Speaker 2: or I'm judging them, or you know, if they want
Speaker 2: to sit there and judge me. That's fine. I can
Speaker 2: handle the judgment. That's I have no issue with that.
Speaker 2: But I really don't like being the person that sits
Speaker 2: back and judges in points of finger and laugh and
Speaker 2: the way that that was manifesting it within me, I
Speaker 2: just I didn't like it so so. But that being said,
Speaker 2: being able to not be indoctrinated into a specific belief
Speaker 2: or a certain philosophy, even I'm able to kind of
Speaker 2: just me personally. I'm able to kind of get like
Speaker 2: a bird's eye view and not necessarily have any sort
Speaker 2: of cultural or traditional or emotional attachments to any one ideology. Really,
Speaker 2: and I don't know, I think that that is more
Speaker 2: of a blessing than occurs.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and think about this, the more you know about yourself,
Speaker 6: like maybe through the human design or through the gene keys,
Speaker 6: you know, you start to figure out more about yourself.
Speaker 6: And you know, when someone you know attacks your belief
Speaker 6: or comes at you for not believing what they believe,
Speaker 6: then it doesn't even phase you because you know who
Speaker 6: you are. You don't have to defend anything for nobody. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I heard somebody explaining it, and somebody was like, look
Speaker 2: if everybody is God. How are you going to tell
Speaker 2: God that they're wrong? You know what I mean? And
Speaker 2: it's like, it's pretty interesting whenever you look at it
Speaker 2: like that, because if you know, if we are all
Speaker 2: one thing, which that is kind that's definitely my belief.
Speaker 2: I believe that all of this is just you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's an illusion. It's the great Maya right that
Speaker 2: people have talked about for since the beginning, Really that
Speaker 2: everything around us is just a projection of whatever is
Speaker 2: going on within us in some form or fashion, and
Speaker 2: that we're all really one. The idea of illusion and
Speaker 2: separation is completely defunct at that point, right, And so
Speaker 2: I got a little you know, upset thinking about that
Speaker 2: for a second, and I was like, man, if there's
Speaker 2: only one thing that then you would have to imagine
Speaker 2: that the world would be kind of lonely. But within
Speaker 2: pantheism and panpsychism, it's not necessarily like that. What I
Speaker 2: did find is that there's another term which is kind
Speaker 2: of like the dark side of pan psychism and pantheism,
Speaker 2: which is something it's called solybsism. Do okay, if you
Speaker 2: ever look into that, like it'll give you nightmares, Like
Speaker 2: it is it's not fun, Like you will look at
Speaker 2: the world in such a dark and gloomy place all
Speaker 2: the time because now it yes, everything is one and
Speaker 2: everything's a projection of you and you're the only one
Speaker 2: that exists. Auta da da da. But it's like it
Speaker 2: makes you feel even lonelier. I don't know, it's just
Speaker 2: a weird mindset that I'm like, fuck solepsism, I don't
Speaker 2: because now everything's about me, and I don't want to
Speaker 2: be like that. Solebpsism is everything is, you know, essentially
Speaker 2: projecting from me. Everything is emanated from me, and this
Speaker 2: place wouldn't exist, It wouldn't exist if I didn't exist.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna make it all about me, and I'm
Speaker 2: not for that ideology personally.
Speaker 6: Well, I think what it and I could be wrong,
Speaker 6: you know, haven't looked into it, but I feel like this,
Speaker 6: this reality kind of is from you, you know, because
Speaker 6: if you had a totally different mindset, you know, let's
Speaker 6: say you were a Muslim, your your world would be
Speaker 6: so much different than it is now. And so how
Speaker 6: is it that just your mindset and your beliefs and
Speaker 6: whatever you embody and then you look out into the
Speaker 6: world and that's what you see, you know, and so
Speaker 6: I can understand it in that regard, you know, but
Speaker 6: not totally like things wouldn't be existing or happening if
Speaker 6: it wasn't for you, you know, but just the way
Speaker 6: that you observe it and what you've noticed. I had
Speaker 6: this weird thought today, you know, because you know, just
Speaker 6: going into and what you know has been illuminated recently.
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, if every you said earlier, there's
Speaker 6: forty thousand religions at least, you know, and maybe that's
Speaker 6: just maybe there's a bunch of branches within the same
Speaker 6: religion within that category, but nonetheless they all can't be right,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like, and so if only
Speaker 6: one of them is right, let's say, then everything else
Speaker 6: is just made up and people just you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, And so like all of this does kind
Speaker 6: of just feel made up at that point.
Speaker 2: But at that point, it's like, you know, what if
Speaker 2: everybody's right? You know what if they're And this is
Speaker 2: something that I've kind of been battling with a little bit,
Speaker 2: like what if there is no absolute truth? And that
Speaker 2: that kind of bothers me that way of thinking, because
Speaker 2: I like to think that, you know, the further we
Speaker 2: dig down into the rabbit hole, that eventually we're gonna
Speaker 2: get closer and closer and closer until one day something happens.
Speaker 2: And I don't know what that thing is, but I
Speaker 2: would like to think that we're gonna at least get
Speaker 2: close to it throughout the years that we're going to
Speaker 2: be doing this show. Right, But I can't help but
Speaker 2: think just that one thing in the back of my
Speaker 2: mind that says, it's like it's all true and you've
Speaker 2: kind of just been chasing your tail the entire time,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like that's kind of a
Speaker 2: worry in the back of my mind.
Speaker 6: I well, I mean, I don't think it should be
Speaker 6: a worry in the back of your mind. I think
Speaker 6: when you're thinking of the fact that everything is true,
Speaker 6: you know, through the eyes of a Christian, that philosophy
Speaker 6: or that religion is true through your eyes you know,
Speaker 6: the things that you're thinking is true and the experiences
Speaker 6: you've had or true. I think it's more along those lines,
Speaker 6: not necessarily that everything is true all at the same time,
Speaker 6: but for the individual you know, and the way that
Speaker 6: it is experienced that way, for all we know, it's
Speaker 6: all chaos and all mind and we are all just
Speaker 6: living through our own illusions. And you know, and maybe
Speaker 6: that's true too, you know, who knows.
Speaker 2: It's probably the dark side of it.
Speaker 6: Maybe yeah, maybe that's you know who knows. But I mean,
Speaker 6: on the physical level, surely there has to be some
Speaker 6: sort of objective reality, but we'll never know what that
Speaker 6: is because all we have is subjective observation.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing, you know, with the double
Speaker 2: slit experiment, Shit is going to act different when you
Speaker 2: observe it, so it can only be one thing to you.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like through your observation, you'll
Speaker 2: never be able to monitor it without observing it. And
Speaker 2: that is like, and I don't know, maybe I'm just
Speaker 2: like digging a hole here, but it's like, if I'll
Speaker 2: never be able to know what it's, what it looks like,
Speaker 2: and what it acts like, and all these different properties
Speaker 2: of whatever the truth may be without observing it, then
Speaker 2: I'm never going to understand it that it's true a state.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, you know what, I'm choosing not
Speaker 2: to look at it that way. I'm choosing to look
Speaker 2: at it in a more positive light, because I do
Speaker 2: feel like we through every episode, you know, with throughout
Speaker 2: all the multiple guests that we've had on Tiffany several times,
Speaker 2: or Byron several times, Optimistic Banks several times, everybody has
Speaker 2: been able to bring something new to the table that
Speaker 2: broadens our understanding. And it's a beautiful thing because it is,
Speaker 2: you know, just like within it's like the lotus flower
Speaker 2: opening up or you know, something is expanding. And I
Speaker 2: feel that way for sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I just feel like, you know, whatever
Speaker 6: it is that you are putting your observation on is
Speaker 6: what you're going to experience, whether it's positive or negative,
Speaker 6: you know, And so I don't know, if something doesn't
Speaker 6: resonate with you, or a belief system doesn't vibe with you,
Speaker 6: then just you know, you don't have to observe it,
Speaker 6: let it be, let it do its thing, and you know,
Speaker 6: you just do your thing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: What's interesting, though, Tiffany, is that you mentioned that I,
Speaker 2: you know, at least through this that I have the
Speaker 2: city or the ability or whatever to be able to
Speaker 2: kind of see things maybe for what they are and
Speaker 2: be able to explain them in another way. So to say, right, dude,
Speaker 2: that's actually like, this is not the first time that
Speaker 2: something has been presented to me that has kind of
Speaker 2: explained that about myself, you know, through astrology readings and
Speaker 2: psychic readings. It's almost like the same message every single time.
Speaker 2: And it's weird how it all lines up like that.
Speaker 2: So if it's all bullshit, how is it all connecting?
Speaker 5: You know, to take pieces of everything. Life's a puzzle,
Speaker 5: and I think we're supposed to pull. And I also apologize,
Speaker 5: but there's going to be purring for the rest of
Speaker 5: the time. That's all right, because my cat is he
Speaker 5: demands to be here and it's eleven o'clock at night,
Speaker 5: so he's it's cut all time. So sorry. But yeah,
Speaker 5: so I and I could go down a whole other thing,
Speaker 5: but it'll it'll probably be a thirty minute tangent if
Speaker 5: I talk about my theories on that with because I
Speaker 5: do think there's some truth too, that this is our
Speaker 5: world and that we're all the star of our own show.
Speaker 2: And what's beautiful about it is it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: the glass that shattered all reflects the same thing. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, there is a truth about reality through each dichotomy,
Speaker 2: through each form of spirituality through each lens that you
Speaker 2: choose to look at. It's not like, well, I'm choosing
Speaker 2: to take up this religious path or this spiritual path.
Speaker 2: It's not like it's going to be blocked from you.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I think that the deeper you dive
Speaker 2: into whatever your you know, whatever your wherever your lens
Speaker 2: is set, it's like you're still going to be fine.
Speaker 2: You're going to be able to find different levels of truth,
Speaker 2: which I feel like, you know, not a lot of
Speaker 2: people are really chasing that, chasing after that. Some people
Speaker 2: are kind of skating past the idea that one day
Speaker 2: will will cease to exist as this human body and
Speaker 2: not really pulling that into focus, which I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe it's just because I was able to,
Speaker 2: you know, witness the fucking void where nothing exists, to
Speaker 2: where it's the only thing that I think about. But
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's like I'm being swallowed
Speaker 2: in it, and I'm like, why, how are you just
Speaker 2: complaining about the weather. You know what I'm saying, There's
Speaker 2: more to this reality than that.
Speaker 6: Try to void on for size and come back and
Speaker 6: talk to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, try breathing no air and also being able to breathe.
Speaker 2: It's weird, but anyway, sorry, Tiffany just wanted to interject that.
Speaker 4: You're fine so with this.
Speaker 5: I also like, if you scroll down, I kind of
Speaker 5: have like a synopsis of I don't know what these
Speaker 5: aren't like page Oh they are a page Okay, this
Speaker 5: is page five?
Speaker 2: Oh is it right here? The uh no?
Speaker 4: Go up?
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, So like what you're talking about, so this
Speaker 5: is like your life's work, your evolution, your.
Speaker 4: Radiance, your purpose.
Speaker 5: So and that just kind of like breaks down what
Speaker 5: we kind of already said. But you know that you
Speaker 5: do play an important role in like the collective. I
Speaker 5: mean everyone does, but like you in shaping it. So
Speaker 5: so you are a person who.
Speaker 4: Speaks like right to the.
Speaker 5: Heart of humanity and you can like shift people's thinking
Speaker 5: and like open their perspectives. So that's why like podcasting
Speaker 5: is such a great platform for you.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm a peacock. You gotta let me fly?
Speaker 2: Actually are you? Would you be? Okay if I just
Speaker 2: hurry up and read this real quick and then I
Speaker 2: will read Shawn's as well, But just to try and
Speaker 2: give an example of what the gene keys could describe
Speaker 2: about each individual out there. I mean, I know it's
Speaker 2: about me, and then it's gonna be about Shawn and
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily pertain to everybody, but just the idea of
Speaker 2: all right, you know, whenever you plug in these details,
Speaker 2: what is it going to spit out? Very very similar
Speaker 2: to astrology in that sense, which I find fascinating, But
Speaker 2: so it says my life's work, what I'm here to do.
Speaker 2: You may not be aware of what an important role
Speaker 2: you play within the collective body of humanity. You are
Speaker 2: one of those whose life directly exerts a magnetic force
Speaker 2: right into the heart of humanity. It's as though you
Speaker 2: have access to the steering will when most do not.
Speaker 2: Everything you say and do affects the direction taken by humanity.
Speaker 2: The clearer and more selfless your activity is, the more
Speaker 2: you affect the world around you. Your life's work always
Speaker 2: has a mystical dimension to it, no matter how mundane
Speaker 2: it may seem. In every sphere of life, you have
Speaker 2: the power to create a subtle glow mobal influence that
Speaker 2: is out of proportion to the actual activity itself. Depending
Speaker 2: on your frequency, you are either blessed or cursed in
Speaker 2: this respect. This is a great responsibility, but there are
Speaker 2: also millions of other people who share your same archetype.
Speaker 2: No pressure, you know. Yeah, even true, my evolution. What
Speaker 2: I'm here to learn. It says, the greatest test and
Speaker 2: the greatest gift in your life is the creative process itself.
Speaker 2: The fact that the fact is that you are never
Speaker 2: going to be able to control it. There will be
Speaker 2: dark times for you. Sometimes they may be fleeting, and
Speaker 2: sometimes they may last a long time. At such times,
Speaker 2: your gift of knowing where everything is going will will
Speaker 2: be greatly diminished. Because of this, you must learn to
Speaker 2: cope with the feelings and fears that this brings up
Speaker 2: in you. If you can maintain your perspective, you can
Speaker 2: actually thrive during such times. But you have to let
Speaker 2: go and trust the process will bring you through. You
Speaker 2: are changing, and as long as you channel your energy
Speaker 2: in a healthy way and don't let anyone try to
Speaker 2: fix you, you will always reinvent yourself in a whole new light.
Speaker 6: That is all. I wouldn't dream of fixing you, baby girl.
Speaker 2: Nah my radiance, what keeps me healthy? These are interesting?
Speaker 2: So it says you are a highly tactile person. At
Speaker 2: the deepest level, your sense of touch extends into more
Speaker 2: subtle reality as well. What other people cannot sense is
Speaker 2: to you as real as touch. This means that your
Speaker 2: environment is incredibly important to you. It needs to feed
Speaker 2: your spirit rather than drain you. On the other hand,
Speaker 2: you need to be careful not to become hyper sensitive
Speaker 2: to people in places, because this makes you a victim
Speaker 2: of them. Good point there. If you catch the right
Speaker 2: balance between being mentally clear and emotionally sensitive, you will
Speaker 2: be able to handle any environment or person without feeling
Speaker 2: energetically swamped. When you are really clear emotionally, you radiate
Speaker 2: an acute sense of purpose or mission, and many things
Speaker 2: become very clear to you, especially the various hidden agendas
Speaker 2: of those around you. This gift thus allows you to
Speaker 2: build a melu peopled a malu peopled people only that
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense by those you absolutely trust. Okay,
Speaker 2: So anyone whose principles are not as high as yours
Speaker 2: simply cannot fit in your life. You know, And there's
Speaker 2: there's I feel like everybody kind of goes to a process.
Speaker 2: Whenever you feel like you're starting to awakening to the
Speaker 2: system or you're trying to raise your vibration in some
Speaker 2: form of some form or fashion that almost like those
Speaker 2: people start to just fall off. Anyway, The people that
Speaker 2: are constantly dragging you down, or the debbie downers, are
Speaker 2: the ones that are you know, they they they live
Speaker 2: to poke and prod and to break you down. Like
Speaker 2: eventually their effect stops working because you know, it's just
Speaker 2: the the magnet is not necessarily pulling them in anymore.
Speaker 2: So I think that's pretty important.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think the important thing though, is that depending on
Speaker 5: how you are built energetically, some of us are more
Speaker 5: susceptible than others. So you have to really like when
Speaker 5: you learn those those things about yourself, you need to
Speaker 5: pray or ties those areas of your life. You know,
Speaker 5: all of this stuff's important and applies to everyone, but
Speaker 5: we have certain like areas that we have to really
Speaker 5: hone in.
Speaker 2: On, right. I mean, we can read this kind of
Speaker 2: information all day, but until you apply it, it's just
Speaker 2: words on a screen, you know. So uh, I mean yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's always so interesting to learn, you know, these
Speaker 2: different facets about like you know, what's my purpose and
Speaker 2: what's my you know, uh, what's my evolution and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. Like it's it's very very awesome to learn.
Speaker 2: It's almost like somebody giving you the answers to the test.
Speaker 2: But the thing about giving it being given the answers
Speaker 2: to the test, like it's almost like, here's the answer.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a cheat sheet of how to
Speaker 2: I don't know, lose one hundred pounds for example, Sean
Speaker 2: lost a shitload of weight back in the day, right,
Speaker 2: and you already have the cheat sheet. But just because
Speaker 2: you have the cheat sheet doesn't mean that like, oh
Speaker 2: I want you know, I pass no, because it's like
Speaker 2: an every day something that you have to keep on
Speaker 2: applying in this sense. So yeah, I mean, they can
Speaker 2: give you the keys all day, but it's like it's
Speaker 2: up to you to apply it in that sense. But
Speaker 2: I do like how it's a drawn out here. The
Speaker 2: last one says my purpose, So your life will very
Speaker 2: likely lead you into some interesting relationship patterns that challenge
Speaker 2: your ability to forgive. Forgiveness is the truest purpose of
Speaker 2: your life. It is the lesson that you must learn
Speaker 2: again and again until you can inspire others to do
Speaker 2: the same. Nothing whatsoever is gained, is gained through blame. Blame.
Speaker 2: Blame is simply an externalized projection, externalized projection of your victimhood.
Speaker 2: Oh damn, what a sentence. So as you go through
Speaker 2: life's experiences, you are being given a beautiful opportunity to
Speaker 2: understand human beings and their suffering, and in understanding where
Speaker 2: their suffering comes from, to forgive them and let them be.
Speaker 2: This is a truly incredible power that you hold. And
Speaker 2: no matter what you do in life, the only thing
Speaker 2: that really meet the only thing that really matters, is
Speaker 2: that you live free from resentment and regret, loving and
Speaker 2: trusting in the greater flow and tempo behind it all.
Speaker 6: Damns some powerful stuff, dude.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we both have the same purpose.
Speaker 5: So that is me too, and essentially like as it
Speaker 5: as tauruses were like really stubborn anyways.
Speaker 4: So I do think when I when.
Speaker 5: I first learned that, I was like, well, I'm fucked
Speaker 5: because I don't want to forgive anybody, Like, once you
Speaker 5: wrong me, you're fucking dead to me. And I want like,
Speaker 5: but that's just the way I've always been, Like, I'm
Speaker 5: like dead to me.
Speaker 2: And you feel like you're doing the right thing when
Speaker 2: you when you build that barrier.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I have been like thinking about that a
Speaker 5: lot lately about if that's like the whole purpose of
Speaker 5: all of my relationships and interactions. It's like, I don't
Speaker 5: know in the back of my head. And how do
Speaker 5: you live with forgiveness when it's one of the hardest
Speaker 5: things for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think you know. And this is just
Speaker 2: from my own personal experience. But every time you hold
Speaker 2: on to regret or you know, hate or resentment or
Speaker 2: any of these kind of things, all they are essentially
Speaker 2: is kind of like shackles within your mind if you
Speaker 2: really think about it, Like like whenever you hate somebody,
Speaker 2: they don't feel your hate every time you walk around them,
Speaker 2: especially like if you hate somebody, you're probably not going
Speaker 2: to be around them, So now you're almost like bringing
Speaker 2: that energy bringing them into your presence on a daily
Speaker 2: basis without them even having to be there. So it's
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, which you're only punishing
Speaker 2: yourself at that point. And yes, it's way easier said
Speaker 2: than done. I mean, trust me, some people are horrific,
Speaker 2: and some people are very selfish and they only do
Speaker 2: things on their own, on their own accord, and they
Speaker 2: only look out for number one. And you want to
Speaker 2: hate the fuck out of that person, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like you want to just say you know
Speaker 2: what and just grind your teeth, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: It's like, I mean, I think a lot of it is,
Speaker 5: you know, trauma response usually like and that's why it's
Speaker 5: hard for me to let go of that, because that
Speaker 5: was a protection method I learned early on. You know,
Speaker 5: if somebody wrongs me, I'm going to just like compart,
Speaker 5: like put them in a little box and you're You're
Speaker 5: dead to me, and I don't care, and I'm going
Speaker 5: to move on because that was the only way I
Speaker 5: could survive. So that's kind of why I'm covered in
Speaker 5: cat or No. That's kind of why it's important to
Speaker 5: learn this stuff because I didn't realize that that was
Speaker 5: some sort of core concept that I was supposed to
Speaker 5: learn in life, you know, like you kind of realize
Speaker 5: when you're a healer when you see people differently than
Speaker 5: other people see them in situations. But forgiveness I hadn't
Speaker 5: thought of as one of my life purposes.
Speaker 6: And it actually makes a lot of sense if you
Speaker 6: think about it, Like if your mind only has so
Speaker 6: much capacity, you know, when it comes to memory, let's
Speaker 6: just say, like a memory card, you know, and you're
Speaker 6: not forgiving that person. You're kind of just holding on
Speaker 6: to that experience. And every time you think about that
Speaker 6: hatred or that unwillingness to forgive that person, you're literally
Speaker 6: replaying that experience within your mind. And so it's taking
Speaker 6: up some processing, it's taking up some memory within your
Speaker 6: potential basically, And so I mean, I feel like it
Speaker 6: would be the best thing to do to just maybe
Speaker 6: try to and I know that this is probably hard,
Speaker 6: especially when it comes to something like this, but try
Speaker 6: to put yourself in that person's shoes. I mean, it
Speaker 6: seems like something that I mean, who would do that
Speaker 6: to somebody? Right? But then you put yourself in their
Speaker 6: shoes because to you, of course, it seems like something
Speaker 6: that you would never do. But that's through your experience
Speaker 6: and your upbringing and all of your experience is leading
Speaker 6: you to this one moment, you know, And so if
Speaker 6: you try to put yourself in their shoes and say okay,
Speaker 6: they definitely have it way worse off than I do,
Speaker 6: and to them in that moment, it was their only option.
Speaker 6: Let's just say, but if you just try to empathize
Speaker 6: with that and say okay for this moment, I'm going
Speaker 6: to pretend to forgive that person, and then eventually, slowly
Speaker 6: you'll start to believe that. And now you got that
Speaker 6: piece of memory back, and you released that experience that
Speaker 6: you don't you no longer have to replay that to yourself, right,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 5: So smart, because not only is it taking up space,
Speaker 5: but when we hold that like even energetically, you don't
Speaker 5: have room for the next thing. So you're just stopping
Speaker 5: your life right there, you know, And so we have
Speaker 5: to release that energy.
Speaker 6: That's right. Yeah. And there's one thing too that you know,
Speaker 6: we've we've kind of learned just along the way when
Speaker 6: it comes to manifesting and really using your attention and
Speaker 6: intention if you are, let's say you're trying to manifest
Speaker 6: something or you're trying to put your attention on something
Speaker 6: positive for yourself. But then there's that one thing that's
Speaker 6: still kind of echoing over here. It's going to pull
Speaker 6: your attention from time to time. And I mean that's
Speaker 6: really just going to hold you back. It's not doing
Speaker 6: anything to the other person. You know, you forgiving them
Speaker 6: may not even benefit them at all, but it's definitely
Speaker 6: going to benefit you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean think about how often you think
Speaker 2: about someone after you've gone through the process of forgiving them,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it's it's kind of
Speaker 2: like you're thinking about them less now because you're not
Speaker 2: necessarily holding onto.
Speaker 6: That and if you do, it's no longer so much
Speaker 6: of a negative experience. It's like, Okay, that's what it is.
Speaker 6: That's you know, that person, it's whatever you know. It's
Speaker 6: a shadow moved beyond shadow.
Speaker 4: Pop over before you pop over to Sean. So part
Speaker 4: of what I said.
Speaker 5: Something that I'm like putting together is star seeds, and
Speaker 5: I've been for a while trying to map relations between
Speaker 5: like human design and certain specific star seed lineages and
Speaker 5: the gene keys and then also the Codex all pointing
Speaker 5: to like your harmonic frequency, your language. So one thing
Speaker 5: that I pointed out on yours, Jonathan on the side,
Speaker 5: I like made a little comment on the side of
Speaker 5: your like the when you read everything, so your your
Speaker 5: gene key forty nine, it should be like on the right.
Speaker 4: Don't don't the comment show up for everyone?
Speaker 2: No, I don't see it.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well I'll just tell you.
Speaker 5: So the gene key forty nine, specifically for radiance, that
Speaker 5: is a marker that is that had like several people have.
Speaker 5: That seems to be a central theme for star seeds
Speaker 5: who are sent here to help humanity shift and align
Speaker 5: with higher frequencies. So that is kind of like when
Speaker 5: I wanted to pull out for you, you know what.
Speaker 2: Is so funny and I don't know, it's weird to
Speaker 2: kind of coagulate and put into place experience and apply
Speaker 2: it to how does this apply to my life?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: So my and I've talked about this before, but my
Speaker 2: second time, my last time that I ever got hypnotized
Speaker 2: for a past life regression. I talked about how I
Speaker 2: was basically like this god, not a god, but like
Speaker 2: a watcher or an angel or something that was like
Speaker 2: like a guardian, right that was monitoring a planet. And
Speaker 2: I felt as if my influence was not necessarily needed
Speaker 2: and the people almost forgot about me. They didn't they
Speaker 2: didn't ask me for help or any kind of guidance.
Speaker 2: It was almost like I was I was mythologized rather
Speaker 2: than you know, people looking at me like I was real.
Speaker 2: It was really strange, and so I got really I
Speaker 2: felt really sad that people almost forgot about me, and
Speaker 2: so I went over to the Manager in the sky,
Speaker 2: which the Manager in the Sky just so happened to be. Oh,
Speaker 2: and I didn't know that I'm not. I mean, at
Speaker 2: this time, I really didn't know too much about spiritual things,
Speaker 2: not to the depths of which I understand them now.
Speaker 2: But it was interesting because I was able to see
Speaker 2: Odin and he was sitting in his chair like get
Speaker 2: his throne right, and I knew that it was Odin
Speaker 2: because he had the eye patch, and he had the
Speaker 2: long beard and the long hair and just the energy
Speaker 2: of this character. It just screamed Odin to me. And
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, look, I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm not able to make any kind of impact up here.
Speaker 2: The people forgot about me. I want to be able
Speaker 2: to get boots on the ground. I want to be
Speaker 2: able to make a difference in people's lives. If that
Speaker 2: means that I got to actually like incarnate as you know,
Speaker 2: whatever they are, That's what I want to do. And
Speaker 2: he goes, Dude, hold on, this is going to trip
Speaker 2: you out, all right. So I had that experience, and
Speaker 2: so he takes his staff and he goes. He goes
Speaker 2: basically like your wish is my command or something along
Speaker 2: those lines like you have been granted or something like that.
Speaker 2: And so he takes his staff, he goes on my
Speaker 2: right shoulder, and then he touches it with my left shoulder,
Speaker 2: and then he touch touches my head and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden instantly I'm coming out of a womb. I'm
Speaker 2: now a baby being born into this into a reality, right,
Speaker 2: and I and I was, you know, ever since then,
Speaker 2: I always wondered, like, you know, how much weight do
Speaker 2: I put into past life regressions? Like do I take
Speaker 2: that literally? Am I supposed to take it symbolically? Did
Speaker 2: it really happen? Or am I just kind of pulling
Speaker 2: from from the rolodex of all the realities that the
Speaker 2: one has ever experienced?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And they you know, you try and figure out how
Speaker 2: you can group that. Well, just yesterday I just so
Speaker 2: happened to go, like I said, I just moved Arizona,
Speaker 2: and uh, I went to the swap meet for the
Speaker 2: first time. It's like a flea market kind of situation, right,
Speaker 2: so much fun. I loved it over there. But there
Speaker 2: just so happened to be this one little metaphysical area
Speaker 2: and this woman was selling, you know, a bunch of
Speaker 2: crystals and sages and you know, the typical physical stuff.
Speaker 2: But she had this little statue and I just could
Speaker 2: not take my eyes off of it and basically check
Speaker 2: him out. It's just like he's like little Odin right here, right,
Speaker 2: and he's sitting in his throne, and the fucking guy
Speaker 2: has the staff maybe of what was going on in
Speaker 2: my mind whenever he kind of sent me here, and
Speaker 2: so I'm like, I just realized that, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't remember Odin having a staff or whatever that is,
Speaker 2: and and all of a sudden this right, yeah. So
Speaker 2: and I say all that to say, you know, could
Speaker 2: that mean could that be like an example of you know,
Speaker 2: what what the process of a star seed coming at
Speaker 2: you know, maybe as a star seed and incarnating in
Speaker 2: this reality? Could that be an example of that? Do
Speaker 2: you think, Tiffany?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that we don't know if
Speaker 5: if these things that we remember are true, and the
Speaker 5: fact that we're all connected, could we be remembering, you know,
Speaker 5: other things that really aren't even this soul, it's pieces
Speaker 5: of other souls. I don't know, but I don't think
Speaker 5: it matters. I think that the point is that that
Speaker 5: experience happened to you, and that you should look into
Speaker 5: it and see what you were supposed to get from it.
Speaker 5: You know. So if you really resonate with something, like
Speaker 5: someone's just obsessed with Atlantis and they resonate with that,
Speaker 5: there's probably something you're supposed to learn in that, and
Speaker 5: something that's going to help you discover your purpose. So
Speaker 5: it's not for people to like be like, oh I'm odin,
Speaker 5: you know, and like think they're better than other people.
Speaker 5: It's so that you know, you can look at that
Speaker 5: and gather something from it.
Speaker 4: So I would absolutely.
Speaker 5: Like if that was that vivid of a experience, there's
Speaker 5: something in it for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's interesting that in Sean help me
Speaker 2: remember if it was I can't remember if it was
Speaker 2: Gloria Canning or oh, Cassandra the psychic that said, look,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if it happened in this reality or
Speaker 2: if it happened in a dream, it's an experience. Was
Speaker 2: that Cassandra it was? She goes you experience that one
Speaker 2: way or the other, and that will always remain an
Speaker 2: experience to you, whether you had a crazy dream or
Speaker 2: a crazy you know, past life regression, or a psychedelic
Speaker 2: experience or a real like physical life experience that it's
Speaker 2: all an experience that your conscious is collecting. And so
Speaker 2: it's like whenever you watch a movie, like your mind
Speaker 2: doesn't know the difference between that happening in reality and
Speaker 2: that in that not being real, especially whenever you're under
Speaker 2: the influence of hypnosis at that point, because you can't
Speaker 2: watch a TV for longer than sixty seconds without being
Speaker 2: you know, kind of put into a slight trans state.
Speaker 6: And so it is actually really really interesting, you know.
Speaker 6: It's like, if you think about it, You're never going
Speaker 6: to have a dream like the dreams that I have,
Speaker 6: you know, like those are like almost well not almost,
Speaker 6: I would say death definitely specific to me, you know,
Speaker 6: should I choose to look at that and see, okay,
Speaker 6: what what's going on there? What what are the symbols
Speaker 6: that I can look at? What are the shadow aspects
Speaker 6: of that experience? And You're not going to have a
Speaker 6: dream that I had, just like I would never have
Speaker 6: one of your dreams. Like your dreams whenever you explain them,
Speaker 6: or they're just weird to me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: like a blob chasing you and like just like I've
Speaker 6: never had a dream like that. Because that's your dream. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you know that was specific to you and was your
Speaker 6: experience and you were supposed to have that experience for
Speaker 6: whatever reason.
Speaker 5: But then at the same time, how cool is it
Speaker 5: though that collectively there are themes though throughout dreams that
Speaker 5: we all experience, like your naked you know, when your
Speaker 5: naked dream, like what that kind of means and different things,
Speaker 5: So there is like this collective.
Speaker 6: Aspect that's true. Yeah, I think about the archetypes and
Speaker 6: things of that nature.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the people that Dude, I and I've had
Speaker 2: this dream so many times I can I've lost count
Speaker 2: of the dreams of all my teeth falling out, like
Speaker 2: I I probably have that dream at least once a year,
Speaker 2: and it fucks with me every time, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like, it's just like, but there's some there
Speaker 2: is some kind of meaning behind it. I think it
Speaker 2: means that like somebody closes you is gonna die or
Speaker 2: something like that, knock on wood.
Speaker 6: But it's something we keeping your teeth, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 2: It definitely inspires me to keep rushing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, don't forget the flaws, dude, right, Okay, I.
Speaker 5: Don't want us to not be able to because there
Speaker 5: was like really cool stuff too because I compared for
Speaker 5: you guys as working relationship and like your your path
Speaker 5: to success for metamistics.
Speaker 4: Right, which was really cool.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: So but we'll like for Sean, we can look at
Speaker 5: just the same things that we looked at for you,
Speaker 5: I guess, so for oh and then I meant to
Speaker 5: point out, we'll we'll do it with Sean's so obviously
Speaker 5: your main your main gene keys here your life's work,
Speaker 5: and I have the same thing towards the bottom of
Speaker 5: you guys want to read like.
Speaker 4: For him too.
Speaker 5: Sure, but as you're scrolling scrolling through a lot of
Speaker 5: people do think that the venus emotional sequence.
Speaker 4: Is your purpose.
Speaker 5: So that is like one taking from it that that's
Speaker 5: your purpose here.
Speaker 2: Okay, right here, So into that precision, impeccability, analytical and
Speaker 2: strategic insight for relationships and work.
Speaker 5: And you know, I think even like whenever we're talking
Speaker 5: and you know, Jonathan and I can get a little
Speaker 5: woo woo and like, but Sean, you have a really
Speaker 5: good way of like, you know, you make it practical.
Speaker 4: You know, you take.
Speaker 5: Something and you apply it, and I think that that's
Speaker 5: like this, you know, you can explain things in a
Speaker 5: very like strategic offering that you know, analytical side to
Speaker 5: the insight, which is really cool.
Speaker 2: That Yeah, that sounds about right for Sean, I think
Speaker 2: so well, Yeah, do you want me to read this part.
Speaker 4: Now if you want to? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sure, Moon, all right, Sean. Your life's work? What you're
Speaker 2: here to do? You have a gene key thirty on
Speaker 2: this one says you are a great taster of life.
Speaker 2: Yours is no life of consistent routine and monotony, but
Speaker 2: a great experiential feast in which the courses just keep coming.
Speaker 2: You can probably only really put all of your life
Speaker 2: experience to work when it has matured inside you and
Speaker 2: started to turn into wisdom. This means that your real
Speaker 2: work in the world may not begin in earnest until
Speaker 2: later in life. You need not be concerned about this,
Speaker 2: as your gift of lightness testifies. Life is not supposed
Speaker 2: to weigh you down too much. Like all humans, you
Speaker 2: will suffer losses and defeats, but you must learn to
Speaker 2: turn all such things to your advantage. Every experience in
Speaker 2: your life is an opportunity to loosen your attachment to
Speaker 2: your expectations and to surrender more deeply to the cosmic flow. Surrender,
Speaker 2: baby girl, like it. What you do with your life
Speaker 2: must involve deep interaction with people. Since the essence of
Speaker 2: your gift is to understand the feelings of others, you
Speaker 2: have a particular gift of bringing sweetness to people who
Speaker 2: are in need of remembering the beauty of life. If
Speaker 2: that's not perfect for Sean.
Speaker 5: I like that, yes, because you do bring like this light,
Speaker 5: you know, to everything that you when you speak.
Speaker 6: Oh, thank you happy. I appreciate that. I try, you know,
Speaker 6: sometimes Sean has it just natural, you know, literally.
Speaker 2: Ever since I was a little kid, Sean has always
Speaker 2: been my favorite person. Like as a little kid, I
Speaker 2: couldn't because we lived in two different states. I grew
Speaker 2: up in Pennsylvania, Sean grew up in Arizona. But every
Speaker 2: every summer would we would get the opportunity to spend
Speaker 2: two or three weeks together, and it was my favorite
Speaker 2: time to if every time of the year to come
Speaker 2: down here. And you know, it was cool to see
Speaker 2: my grandparents, my great grandparents, and you know, my aunt
Speaker 2: which is his mom, and you know very I love
Speaker 2: all every like all of them, but to see Sean
Speaker 2: was the highlight of my summer every single year, and
Speaker 2: and it was just always so much fun because he
Speaker 2: just makes me fucking laugh my ass off every time
Speaker 2: I'm around him, and just so lighthearted and goofy and funny,
Speaker 2: and you know, there can never be too many Seans
Speaker 2: around the world.
Speaker 6: Ah, dude, I appreciate that. Man. We do have some
Speaker 6: good laughs though, you know. Yeah, yeah, and it just builds,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, And it gets contagious.
Speaker 2: Even something silly like looking at a picture of fucking
Speaker 2: Betty White.
Speaker 6: Oh that still gets me, dude.
Speaker 2: That was That's a whole another story. We were tripping
Speaker 2: one night and we saw this like old school picture
Speaker 2: of Betty White back when she was a fox, like
Speaker 2: back in the thirties or something like that, and but
Speaker 2: it was like really spooky. It was like one of
Speaker 2: those pictures like if you ever see like a like
Speaker 2: a scary movie, like one of those pictures where the
Speaker 2: faces just moves as you move. But it was so
Speaker 2: strange because it was a still it was a still
Speaker 2: framed picture, and it was just making us laugh so
Speaker 2: hard the whole time we were looking at it because
Speaker 2: we thought the same thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly the same thing, Like it was a still photo,
Speaker 6: but we both had the thought of like she was
Speaker 6: sitting there waiting for us to like interact with her,
Speaker 6: or she was waiting to almost say something, or like
Speaker 6: I was like, what is this dude?
Speaker 2: It was crazy? So yeah, anyway, I just want to say, yeah, Sean, yeah,
Speaker 2: you you definitely know how to bring the beauty to life.
Speaker 2: So this is spawn on the now, your evolution. What
Speaker 2: you're here to learn, sir. It says the biggest issue
Speaker 2: in your life is commitment. Interesting, I'm considering you've been
Speaker 2: married since a young.
Speaker 1: Age, but that's all I do.
Speaker 2: But maybe it applies to other places, So let's see.
Speaker 2: It says either you bite off more than you can chew,
Speaker 2: or you pull out of your commitments and inevitably create disappointment.
Speaker 2: None of these situations need to be your concerns, so
Speaker 2: long as you find a way to be certain of
Speaker 2: your commitments before you make them. The challenge for you
Speaker 2: is not to confuse commitment with desire. You are safer
Speaker 2: if you did not, or you are safer if you
Speaker 2: do not make decisions in the heat of the moment
Speaker 2: or in the heat of the passion. As a passionate being,
Speaker 2: you need time to determine which desires can be acted
Speaker 2: upon and which can be transformed internally. This never takes
Speaker 2: long for you, especially when you are When you are younger,
Speaker 2: desire can still contain commitment even if it lasts but
Speaker 2: a day. This is not about being socially correct. It
Speaker 2: is about being energetically correct. You need to learn to
Speaker 2: think in terms of experience and not in terms of
Speaker 2: success and failure. If man, that's a deep one. If
Speaker 2: something lasts a short time, you can still learn a
Speaker 2: great deal from it. The key for you is not
Speaker 2: to be fooled by others into feeling ashamed or guilty
Speaker 2: about your actions in life.
Speaker 6: Oh dude, that's very resonant, you know, just as of late,
Speaker 6: you know, just goal.
Speaker 5: To like back to explain that a little bit better,
Speaker 5: like your evolution. So it's half heartedness, commitment, devotion, and
Speaker 5: then growth through wholehearted engagement. So I think that it
Speaker 5: connects back to that light lightness about you, you know,
Speaker 5: to go into things like half heartedly and just like flippantly.
Speaker 5: That's what I think it more kind of reads as
Speaker 5: and then once you acknowledge that about yourself, and then
Speaker 5: you have total devotion, you know, and then that's how
Speaker 5: you grow beautifully like through this wholehearted engagement.
Speaker 6: No, yeah, that makes sense. One thing that I have noticed,
Speaker 6: you know, about myself, just just growing up in just
Speaker 6: the life that I've had and being an EmPATH and
Speaker 6: I'm a people pleaser, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 6: so I think that of course I just want to
Speaker 6: say yes just to make the other person happy, even
Speaker 6: if I'm not, like, I don't know, maybe I'm not
Speaker 6: going to be good at that, or maybe i'm gonna
Speaker 6: I'm gonna really suck at that, or you know, a
Speaker 6: specific job, like maybe I can do that, and I'll
Speaker 6: just say yes because I think the person wants me to,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And I think that I've
Speaker 6: definitely been phasing out of for sure, you know, and
Speaker 6: really trying to be a little more analytical and really
Speaker 6: looking into seeing if this is something that I would
Speaker 6: even be interested in long term, you know. But yeah,
Speaker 6: that's that's really fascinating.
Speaker 2: It's pretty pretty interesting how like, you know, just spot
Speaker 2: on some of these things can be.
Speaker 6: Well, it's funny because yeah, going into this episode, you know,
Speaker 6: just like the human design, just like astrology, just like
Speaker 6: some of those things where I'm like, how does that work?
Speaker 6: You know, like, how is it that it even makes
Speaker 6: you know, sense or really resonates. And I just had
Speaker 6: that feeling it was going to be something like this
Speaker 6: where I'm like, I don't know how this is gonna work.
Speaker 6: I don't even really know what it is. And then
Speaker 6: here we are, you know, I'm like, holy shit, yeah,
Speaker 6: pretty spot.
Speaker 2: On, Like how the hell does a system know you
Speaker 2: better than even some of the closest people to you.
Speaker 6: Right, you know, right? And then you take some of
Speaker 6: this information and just kind of contemplate on it, and
Speaker 6: I feel like, this shit will really work if you
Speaker 6: really really focus on it and try to figure out
Speaker 6: what it is, why it is you do the things
Speaker 6: you do. Yeah, you know, in the way.
Speaker 3: That you do.
Speaker 2: So now your radiance, Sean, what keeps me healthy? This
Speaker 2: is a gene. Ky fourteen says health and happiness for
Speaker 2: you are about working. You have a body that needs
Speaker 2: to be in creative projects. The worst thing for you
Speaker 2: to is to allow yourself to sync into sluggishness or
Speaker 2: be trudging away at something that gives you little or
Speaker 2: no inspiration. If you do not have a sense of
Speaker 2: knowing where your life is going, your body will never
Speaker 2: really feel settled. Radiance for you is about being active
Speaker 2: and a part of some endeavor that excites you. You
Speaker 2: don't have to enjoy every step.
Speaker 6: Of the way.
Speaker 2: That is not well, that is nigh impossible, but you
Speaker 2: do need to feel that you are constantly expanding your
Speaker 2: gifts and learning new things. Your health is dependent upon
Speaker 2: your using up all your daily store of energy in
Speaker 2: a positive way. If you feel exhausted at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, then that may be a good thing
Speaker 2: for you. If your body springs out of the bed
Speaker 2: the next morning fully refueled, then you know that you
Speaker 2: are on the right track. If, however, your energy is
Speaker 2: becoming steadily depleted, you are channeling your energy in the
Speaker 2: wrong direction.
Speaker 6: Interesting. Remember I was just telling you too, Like this
Speaker 6: job that I sorry real quick, This this job that
Speaker 6: I have is like very physically demanding, and I feel like,
Speaker 6: even though yeah, sure, it's it's work, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. It's not like my dream job or anything
Speaker 6: like that, but just the physical aspect of it, Like
Speaker 6: my mental health has gotten so much better just because
Speaker 6: I know that I'm exercising and I'm using my muscles,
Speaker 6: and I'm really like, yeah, that's super fascinating. I was
Speaker 6: just telling Jonathan this like just a few days ago, Like,
Speaker 6: no bullshit. Anyways, what were you going to say, Tiffany?
Speaker 5: So, like your your path with with this gene key
Speaker 5: is like your shadow side is compromise. So I think
Speaker 5: a big part of it is is what you said
Speaker 5: about people pleasing. So if you compromise and just do
Speaker 5: things to make someone else happy, you're not going to
Speaker 5: feel like you're using your talents efficiently. So when you acknowledge,
Speaker 5: like when you are completely lit up and doing things
Speaker 5: that you are passionate about, that feel that are aligned,
Speaker 5: you come across extremely like competent, you know so, so
Speaker 5: people know that they're in good hands, like you got this,
Speaker 5: you know right, And that's what leads to vitality through
Speaker 5: using your talents.
Speaker 2: Official when I tell you what, I feel that way
Speaker 2: every time I'm receiving a tattoo from you, Sean, Oh,
Speaker 2: do I feel very confident that I'm in good.
Speaker 6: You have to make it happen, dude, Yes.
Speaker 2: So your purpose what deeply fulfills you. It says your
Speaker 2: life purpose is to be you. That might sound trite,
Speaker 2: but it is in fact the only true valuable insight
Speaker 2: you will ever need to live a full and blissful life.
Speaker 1: You will be.
Speaker 2: Tested repeatedly over the course of your life, and always
Speaker 2: in the same area. You will be tempted by your
Speaker 2: fears to give up different aspects of your uniqueness. You
Speaker 2: must never give up your identity or your dreams, which
Speaker 2: are one and the same. If you do, you will
Speaker 2: begin to suffer deep inside your being.
Speaker 3: You are.
Speaker 2: You are your best ally or your worst enemy. If
Speaker 2: you If you ever feel depressed, it is because you have,
Speaker 2: because you have somewhere given a part of yourself away.
Speaker 2: There are no guarantees that anyone else will believe in you,
Speaker 2: so you must be the first one who does. The
Speaker 2: people in your life will either love your unique your uniqueness,
Speaker 2: or they will subtly want you to change or or
Speaker 2: to temper your wildness. You will do well to heed
Speaker 2: the words of throw in the way. In the wildness
Speaker 2: lies the preservation of the world. This is your creed.
Speaker 6: Hmmm, Oh that's cool. I think everybody should be vibing
Speaker 6: with that ship. You know, be yourself completely and authentically.
Speaker 6: That's when you become neo dude, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Then you don't even have to dodge bullets. You know.
Speaker 2: That is facts.
Speaker 4: So that is mediocrity.
Speaker 5: So that like if you ever feel mediocre, that's like
Speaker 5: not good.
Speaker 2: It's stagnant.
Speaker 6: At that point, my own doing too light exquisiteness.
Speaker 4: So we want you to be exquisite.
Speaker 6: All right, I'll do my best, no pressure.
Speaker 2: You know what's interesting up here? And I'm just like
Speaker 2: looking at all these different kind of levels to it.
Speaker 2: So is this to say that, can you explain these
Speaker 2: these directional arrows? And then this little snowflake looking thing.
Speaker 4: At the top, Oh wait.
Speaker 2: Right here, so it be the brand, this one. It
Speaker 2: just says desire, lightness and then up yeah.
Speaker 5: The shadow shadow, and then you know you're where you
Speaker 5: find the light and then eventually you know.
Speaker 4: So they're just like little things, you know.
Speaker 2: For aspects of the same polarity.
Speaker 5: Like like milestone markers for that, for that mark for
Speaker 5: that gene key.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So Sean, once you overcome desire, you will
Speaker 2: feel lightness, and the more you stain your lightness you
Speaker 2: get a little rapture action.
Speaker 6: Baby. Oh all right, I'll take it, dude. I'll think
Speaker 6: the rapture.
Speaker 2: We almost had one, almost came close.
Speaker 6: Ye, So so I.
Speaker 5: Compared you guys too, just because I thought it was
Speaker 5: interesting to look at. That's what I like to do
Speaker 5: with human design too, for like relationships and working relationships,
Speaker 5: So that way you can kind of see like why
Speaker 5: you work together well together. But like Jonathan's strengths are clarity, creativity,
Speaker 5: and strategic insight, while Sean's is passion, wholehearted engagement and resilience.
Speaker 4: And I think that's like totally true about you guys
Speaker 4: when you're working.
Speaker 6: Together really gin to each other's yang we do work.
Speaker 5: And then like so because you have a very unique plant.
Speaker 5: You know, it's not like you do a true crime
Speaker 5: podcast or something. You know, you're you're actually trying to
Speaker 5: mold and open minds. So with Jonathan's life, purpose, Guide, Awaken, Transform,
Speaker 5: and then Sean's inspire, Innovate.
Speaker 4: Excel, like that's just so beautiful.
Speaker 5: And then for your like relationship focus, Uh, Jonathan is
Speaker 5: always which is true, like is so mindfulness, but then
Speaker 5: inquiry You're always like bringing up questions, you know, and
Speaker 5: expanding upon topics. And then Sean has this beautiful way
Speaker 5: of like adapting it to to like bringing full circle,
Speaker 5: you know, to why that makes sense, and then also
Speaker 5: bringing like this compassionate, beautiful way of thinking about things too.
Speaker 5: That sounds about right yeah yeah, so, and then intellectually
Speaker 5: like where you guys focus Jonathan vision analysis and Sean's
Speaker 5: strategic thinking and perseverance.
Speaker 6: Yeah hey interesting.
Speaker 5: But then you guys are making an impact on the collective.
Speaker 5: Jonathan's is vitality, harmonizing and vitality and harmony and communities.
Speaker 5: And then Sean like you see a collective wisdom and
Speaker 5: you share and connect people through bold experiences.
Speaker 2: Hmm, that's pretty true, right yeah, I mean you're always
Speaker 2: sharing your dreams and stuff.
Speaker 6: How I know, right, that's that's pretty cool. How how
Speaker 6: how does that fucking work? I just can't understand it.
Speaker 6: It's fine. I don't have to know why it works.
Speaker 6: I just have to know that it does.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, pretty cool. I love learning about this stuff.
Speaker 1: This is so cool.
Speaker 7: And it's just like anybody that's to like put this
Speaker 7: up because there's a whole other like you know, for
Speaker 7: people to see or like at another time or whatever,
Speaker 7: because like I did it just for menimistics too, Like
Speaker 7: you're why you guys work well together, so you should
Speaker 7: like post it for people to read if they want
Speaker 7: to see.
Speaker 2: Oh you did put a little metamistics on there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's read that real quick. Yeah that that can't go
Speaker 2: on a time crunch, but time.
Speaker 1: What is time?
Speaker 6: I am?
Speaker 5: But yeah, like this because I wanted to show you,
Speaker 5: like the first part is kind of similar to what
Speaker 5: we just kind of went over. But then strategies for
Speaker 5: you guys to grow your podcast, and like Sean should
Speaker 5: be exploring unconventional, cutting edge topics, challenging norms. And then
Speaker 5: Jonathan's good at providing like the framework and the summaries
Speaker 5: and the takeaways for the listeners. And then yeah, see
Speaker 5: it even brings up Sean's interaction with people. But then Jonathan,
Speaker 5: you add like credibility, like people believe you and they
Speaker 5: get on board with what you're saying and you guide discussions.
Speaker 5: Well yeah yeah, but it even like tells you, you know,
Speaker 5: like social media and branding how to be the most effective.
Speaker 4: Also, yeah, I know, it's like I gave you guys
Speaker 4: a whole time who.
Speaker 5: Monetization and financial growth, so like where you guys can
Speaker 5: really excel in that. But like I wanted to show
Speaker 5: you know, because also if people are struggling in those
Speaker 5: areas they can look up their gene keys and then
Speaker 5: you can I mean, yes, I had to like do
Speaker 5: analysis on all of this, but you know people can
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 6: Too, So fascinating. I love that you can look at
Speaker 6: this and at the very least, you know, even if
Speaker 6: you don't understand it right away as far as one
Speaker 6: of these aspects being about you, you know, you can
Speaker 6: still contemplate it and really really think about it and
Speaker 6: really figure out where can this be applied and where
Speaker 6: where does this point to for me specifically, And then
Speaker 6: once you find it, then then you're halfway there. You know.
Speaker 6: Now you just work on it, and that's great. I
Speaker 6: love it.
Speaker 5: At the very bottom of your key takeaways or that
Speaker 5: Sean drives attraction, excitement, and adventurous content, so you're like
Speaker 5: helping to maximize the reach, and Jonathan provides structure, insight,
Speaker 5: and trustworthiness so you maximize retention and deep engagement.
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, right, Together they create a you I
Speaker 2: think so yeah, like Peas and Carrots says. Together they
Speaker 2: create a unique spiritual podcast that balances magic and mastery,
Speaker 2: generating generating community growth, visibility, and monetization opportunities.
Speaker 6: Hell yeah, dude, I'll take it.
Speaker 2: I like it. This is so like you just you
Speaker 2: just put your your name and your birthday and where
Speaker 2: you were born, just like you would with your you know,
Speaker 2: your astrologal astrological chart, and it just spits out information
Speaker 2: that just so happens to just you know, be perfect
Speaker 2: for whatever you're looking for. And it's man, that is
Speaker 2: so fascinating how that just works like that we live
Speaker 2: in a simulation. I think that that is almost a
Speaker 2: proof of it, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 6: I think so?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like this isn't just like absolute divine design, Like
Speaker 4: we're not just.
Speaker 2: You know, tiny little amoebas that evolved into something that
Speaker 2: consciousness is secondary to at all.
Speaker 6: Like well, I mean, we say, who's to say how
Speaker 6: it all started? But when it comes to how we
Speaker 6: interact with it, you know, I think that's where the
Speaker 6: aspect of the simulation comes comes to play. You know
Speaker 6: what I mean? If all this mind and everything we
Speaker 6: do is determined by how we process things and even
Speaker 6: just the little micro emotions that you have towards little
Speaker 6: subtleties in your day, then all of a sudden you're
Speaker 6: doing this instead of that because of it, and it's
Speaker 6: just you know, what I mean, that's the simulation. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's weird because in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Well, and the thing is is that you can really
Speaker 2: get stuck in the physicality of this reality, you know,
Speaker 2: like you can really put all your eggs in that
Speaker 2: basket and say, you know what, humans evolve from monkeys,
Speaker 2: but before that, we evolve from fucking fish or lizards
Speaker 2: or whatever. And it's like weird things of people connecting it,
Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, what they're really finding out
Speaker 2: is that consciousness precedes the physical form like that that
Speaker 2: you can can actually experience. And this is something that
Speaker 2: I was just watching a video on Aldus Huxley. Whenever
Speaker 2: he wrote The Doors of Perception, he was saying throughout
Speaker 2: his psychedelic experience that he was able to it. He
Speaker 2: always thought that like consciousness was in the brain, like
Speaker 2: consciousness was in the mind. But through that experience of
Speaker 2: I think he was doing LSD or something, No, what
Speaker 2: was it, ketamine, that's what he was doing. But you
Speaker 2: know it teach their own everybody has their own flavor.
Speaker 2: But he was doing that psychedelic psychedelically, and he got
Speaker 2: to a point where he was like, wait a second, no,
Speaker 2: consciousness is not only held within the brain and he
Speaker 2: was able to experience himself outside of himself, which I
Speaker 2: mean and if that's the case, then that would have
Speaker 2: to prove that we go on once the body dies, right,
Speaker 2: because we don't necessarily need the body. It's just almost
Speaker 2: I don't even want to say that we're using it
Speaker 2: almost parasitically. It's not like that. Maybe it is, but
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like, you know, this is just
Speaker 2: something that this is a vehicle that we're riding in,
Speaker 2: and there are many different ways to try and understand
Speaker 2: why we why we're here, and what the purpose is
Speaker 2: while we're here, and you know, the gene kis is
Speaker 2: just another way to be able to look at it
Speaker 2: from that angle. So if you hear the best.
Speaker 5: To come back on and we'll talk about star seeds
Speaker 5: and the codex because I think like what you're describing
Speaker 5: in my opinion anyways, like I think we have like
Speaker 5: a soul fingerprint. So it's like your harmonic frequency is
Speaker 5: your soul DNA and it's all.
Speaker 4: Like connected to this.
Speaker 5: So I think that that explains a lot as well,
Speaker 5: and and for people to explore.
Speaker 4: That, we can talk about that, but.
Speaker 6: It'd be great. I think sounds fun.
Speaker 2: Yes, Sean, what is that tarot card?
Speaker 6: My good sir, we got the and I'm not even surprised,
Speaker 6: but we got the ten of Pinnacles. So you know,
Speaker 6: hanting me, it's a full moon, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: It's the end of the cycle, if you will. Of
Speaker 6: ten of Pinnacles, I mean.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's the end and the beginning, all encompassed
Speaker 2: into one number. Uh, the ten of Pentacles. The combination
Speaker 2: of prosperity has arrived. This enables you to create from
Speaker 2: a new place of abundance along alongside those you love.
Speaker 2: A card of shared wealth and bounty and bounty. The
Speaker 2: Ten of Pinnacles shows three generations of a family enjoying
Speaker 2: themselves in a luscious garden on their property. The family
Speaker 2: is surrounded by ten pentacles, showing that they do not
Speaker 2: have to worry about matters of finance. The two dogs
Speaker 2: are symbolic of loyalty, while the depiction of children, adults,
Speaker 2: and an old man illustrates the process of maturing that
Speaker 2: unfolds throughout your life. Yeah, we get that. We get
Speaker 2: that card quite a bit. I do love that one.
Speaker 6: It trips me out every time too, because I got
Speaker 6: two dogs and kids, and like, I don't know, it
Speaker 6: just really resonates when I see this one.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: The spiritual reading behind and it says buying a home
Speaker 2: or inheriting property or money are all current possibilities. You're
Speaker 2: also seeing overt generosity from your family or important members
Speaker 2: of your social circle. You have plenty of love and
Speaker 2: support to further your dreams, especially when you seek advice
Speaker 2: from people you respect who are older and wiser. The
Speaker 2: key meaning of the card is wealth, family, and inheritance,
Speaker 2: and then of course it meaning the number ten meaning
Speaker 2: a complete cycle. Perfect, beautiful, perfect. It's a great card, Tiffany.
Speaker 2: Let all of the one out there know where they
Speaker 2: can find you and all your great work.
Speaker 5: Come over to YouTube and find me at rooted frequency.
Speaker 5: I also have meditations on there too, and yeah, that's
Speaker 5: pretty much the main way to find me. I don't
Speaker 5: know what's happening with my crystals yet right now, And
Speaker 5: you can always reach out for a reading if you want.
Speaker 4: Right now, everything's just very laid back. Just be my
Speaker 4: friend and message me and I will give you a reading.
Speaker 5: Oh oh you know what I did now, I just
Speaker 5: decided so this Tuesday tomorrow is the first one. Every Tuesday,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be going live on YouTube at noon Eastern
Speaker 5: Standard time and giving free readings for an hour.
Speaker 6: Oh that's cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because of a call to do readings for the collective.
Speaker 6: So how do you do?
Speaker 2: How do you go about doing that? Are you pulling
Speaker 2: a tarot card or is it more of just a connection.
Speaker 4: I'm going to do my my oracle deck that I designed.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: Your own oracle deck eventually, dude, that is that is
Speaker 2: a goal of ours, is to have our own oracle deck.
Speaker 2: That would be so sick it's fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, look, I'm gonna put your links down in
Speaker 2: the show notes below for anybody to be able to
Speaker 2: reach out to you. Highly suggest everybody reaches out to
Speaker 2: Tiffany very connected, very loving, very caring, and I believe
Speaker 2: that she has a way of being able to next
Speaker 2: to the energy that you are in a very warm
Speaker 2: and loving way.
Speaker 6: So I just want to say that, sure, I definitely
Speaker 6: feel better, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, has that motherly aspect to her, So love it.
Speaker 2: And look, well we'll put all that down the show notes.
Speaker 2: I do want to say for all of the one
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Speaker 2: come and get weird with us. It's always, you know,
Speaker 2: either an awesome topic or an awesome guest. Sometimes it's
Speaker 2: Lord Byron Jester, sometimes it's Cassandra van zandt comes. It
Speaker 2: could be anybody, it could be any topic, and so
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Speaker 6: Thank you guys.
Speaker 2: That being said, we're going to get over to the
Speaker 2: meditation now. I don't know exactly direction we're going, but
Speaker 2: you're only going to be able to meditate with us
Speaker 2: only at Patreon. Unfortunately, can't do it on YouTube. We're
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to put it on the podcast
Speaker 2: platforms because then there's going to be commercial interruption. Patreon
Speaker 2: there is never any commercial interruption. That's probably the best
Speaker 2: part about being over to Patreon. So yeah, with that
Speaker 2: being said, showing any final words, sir.
Speaker 6: I mean, this was just a great experience with Tiffany,
Speaker 6: and thank you for doing the extra work and really
Speaker 6: really trying to dig deep and figure out, you know,
Speaker 6: all that you could for us. And I'm really going
Speaker 6: to I want to have that printed out or at
Speaker 6: least have a chance to look at that and just
Speaker 6: go over a couple of times myself. But but yeah,
Speaker 6: just thank you for joining us, and this was.
Speaker 4: Great, Thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 2: Of course, of course, yes, all right, well let's get
Speaker 2: over to meditate and then we will converse after said meditation.
Speaker 2: But look, before we do that, we want to say,
Speaker 2: if Tiffany Hany came here and she taught you anything,
Speaker 2: it's that you don't know what you don't know.
Speaker 1: But I'll just get weird, stay weird, right, You.
Speaker 2: Know, that was a short meditation, but I really felt
Speaker 2: like I got a lot out of that one.
Speaker 6: Did you really, Yeah, what happened? Did you get?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: It's strange because like I got like a right where
Speaker 2: I needed to be within the first minute or two
Speaker 2: and and it and it was strange because I don't
Speaker 2: know why. I was just kind of going through the
Speaker 2: last couple of days in my mind, not even trying
Speaker 2: to think about it, but just like trying to see
Speaker 2: how intricate I can get within the details within a meditation,
Speaker 2: Like are there certain aspects of the past couple of
Speaker 2: days that I would have forgotten otherwise, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? And going through that, and then I started
Speaker 2: thinking about, you know, Jacob always says this thing the
Speaker 2: like it's where he's like, you know, well, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It's not a salvation issue, you know, as far as
Speaker 2: the religion goes. And I started to think, like, you know,
Speaker 2: I guess you don't really necessarily, you know, need any
Speaker 2: of those things, you know, any of the things to
Speaker 2: have literally happened within the bi in order for any
Speaker 2: of them to be a salvation issue in the first place. Like,
Speaker 2: you don't need to literally believe that any of these
Speaker 2: things literally happened in order for you to be saved
Speaker 2: at the end of the day. So what does it
Speaker 2: matter if you take it literally or not? And I thought, man,
Speaker 2: that is kind of maybe that's the point, you know,
Speaker 2: the idea of just accepting the message and it's not
Speaker 2: just you know, strictly with Jacob. That was just I
Speaker 2: talked to him every day on you know, on the
Speaker 2: cult and stuff, so made me think about it. But yeah,
Speaker 2: because you can't take any of this shit with you, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like you came in alone, you're
Speaker 2: going out alone. And so then I started thinking, now,
Speaker 2: I damn, I can't It's interesting how many thoughts you
Speaker 2: have in just a short span of seven minutes. But
Speaker 2: I started thinking about, like, man, how awesome is it
Speaker 2: that every single one of us, you know, is almost
Speaker 2: like this little, for lack of a better term, like
Speaker 2: a ball of energy, right, maybe almost as if we
Speaker 2: are are maybe we are the orbs you know, made
Speaker 2: manifest or something.
Speaker 6: Like that, right right right, And so I.
Speaker 2: Was like, man, it's going to be really cool to
Speaker 2: see what that looks like whenever the end is here,
Speaker 2: you know, whenever that may be. It could be fifty sixty,
Speaker 2: seventy years from now, it could be two weeks from now,
Speaker 2: who knows. Knock on wood. I don't want that to happen,
Speaker 2: but it could be at any point in time. And
Speaker 2: how cool would it be to be able to like
Speaker 2: just see every individual as just like, not necessarily as
Speaker 2: their human form, but as their non mi stay form,
Speaker 2: you know, and like to not look at everything so
Speaker 2: literal and just understand that literally everything is so fluid
Speaker 2: and all of this is just a dream.
Speaker 6: And ultimately, it's funny that you bring that up, you know,
Speaker 6: because I feel like, ultimately that's how we should just
Speaker 6: be striving. That's what we should be striving for, even
Speaker 6: in this physical reality, you know, like, yeah, sure, we
Speaker 6: have to go to work and we have to do
Speaker 6: physical things, and other people believe this, and other people
Speaker 6: believe that, but it's like, really, I mean, you don't
Speaker 6: you don't see that we all kind of came from
Speaker 6: the same thing, regardless of where you were born, regardless
Speaker 6: of what book you happen to have been reading, and
Speaker 6: just so happened to believe in as as truth, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. I mean, I don't know. I
Speaker 6: just feel like that's what we should be doing anyways,
Speaker 6: regardless of what somebody thinks or you know, I feel
Speaker 6: like it's such a waste of energy to to even
Speaker 6: entertain any of the divisive things that we've been presented with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I find it the most interesting when people say,
Speaker 2: my god, I'm like, we probably all came from the
Speaker 2: same fucking thing anyway, right, And not only that we
Speaker 2: came from the same thing, it's that we are the
Speaker 2: same thing, you know. It's you know, and just to
Speaker 2: look at it through a neo neo platonic version, you know,
Speaker 2: everything stems from the one, which stems from the noose,
Speaker 2: which stems from the world's soul, which you know, emanates
Speaker 2: into the world, the physical earth that we're living in.
Speaker 2: So every single individual, every single thing, every single not
Speaker 2: thing that exists in this reality is being emanated from
Speaker 2: another source, which is being emanated from another source, which
Speaker 2: is being emanated from another fucking source, you know, So
Speaker 2: as it does, that is I mean, it's a it's
Speaker 2: a full on, you know, mind fuck. And that's only
Speaker 2: one way of looking at it. That was Plato's way
Speaker 2: of looking at it, and then Platinus, you know, kind
Speaker 2: of made it into a more evolved thing, which, to
Speaker 2: be honest, I kind of like the more evolved one
Speaker 2: version anyway. But it's cool because you'll see many different
Speaker 2: you know, explanations trying to describe things without necessarily being
Speaker 2: religious about things, you know, all throughout time, whether it
Speaker 2: is Taoism or it's you know, like all these different
Speaker 2: ways of being able to just tell you that, like
Speaker 2: you're pretty fucking special and this life is pretty fucking special,
Speaker 2: and it's up to you to like find out what
Speaker 2: your purpose is. And that's why I just love that,
Speaker 2: Like your purpose is to find your purpose. Like that
Speaker 2: is my one of my favorite quotes of all time.
Speaker 6: That your purpose is whatever you believe it to be,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Like, I feel like it
Speaker 6: would be such a waste of what it is that
Speaker 6: you have, you know, to to think otherwise that you
Speaker 6: aren't special, or that you you aren't made of the
Speaker 6: same thing that everyone else on this earth right now
Speaker 6: is made of, you know what I mean? Like, I
Speaker 6: don't know, I just and that's another thing I'd like
Speaker 6: to get into, and maybe we can do an episode
Speaker 6: on it. But I've been thinking about this a lot
Speaker 6: since that one that painting that I sent you, you know,
Speaker 6: and the I took a screenshot of it. But anyways,
Speaker 6: I would like to get into the understanding and because
Speaker 6: I feel like this is across a lot of cultures
Speaker 6: and even religious understandings, but the whole idea of a
Speaker 6: spiritual war, you know, I feel like we we we
Speaker 6: always hear that, you know, and and maybe you know
Speaker 6: some like some people would say like, oh, you know,
Speaker 6: there's there's there's ets, you know, and there's this war
Speaker 6: that's going on between you know, the on Naki or whatever.
Speaker 6: And I'm not even saying that that's what's happening. But
Speaker 6: I just would like to get down to why is
Speaker 6: it that so many people over time that don't have
Speaker 6: any communication with each other have brought up the idea
Speaker 6: of a spiritual war. And I have a feeling that
Speaker 6: really all that is is just your internal struggle with
Speaker 6: everything around you and your thoughts and your beliefs, and
Speaker 6: when you're you're questioned about what you believe and then
Speaker 6: you know, vice versa, And like, I feel like that's
Speaker 6: the struggle, you know, that we all have between each
Speaker 6: other because no one knows what it's like to be Jonathan,
Speaker 6: nobody knows what it's like to be shown. Nobody knows,
Speaker 6: and so we're all at like odds almost, and we're
Speaker 6: all divided by what fucking wing you're on of this
Speaker 6: fucking bird that was made up and like you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like what the fuck you know? So
Speaker 6: it's like, what are we talking about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because we I feel like everybody feels
Speaker 2: judged and judges in both an esoteric and an es
Speaker 2: exoteric kind of way, you know, the inner and the
Speaker 2: outer reality. And what's interesting is I'm kind of looking
Speaker 2: at the whole gnostic understanding in a completely different light,
Speaker 2: in the sense of like the demiurge. You know, they
Speaker 2: say the demiurge is the false God, right, Yeah? Could
Speaker 2: it be that, like humanity created that false god in
Speaker 2: the first place, and that's that's what the The actual
Speaker 2: false god is the one that we put into a.
Speaker 6: Box, right right, the one that was made you mean,
Speaker 6: the one that was made up like in our own minds,
Speaker 6: in our own image.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the one that created all these rules, the one
Speaker 2: that said this is my special land, and all the
Speaker 2: rest of the other land that I also created is
Speaker 2: not as cool as this one, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like that's all that's got in a box. Shit, and
Speaker 2: that's demiurge shit? Am I in my opinion? Anyway?
Speaker 6: Oh, I agree with you. I agree with you. I'm red.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be cool. We can we can definitely
Speaker 2: dive into a little bit.
Speaker 6: I just think it would be there would be a
Speaker 6: lot of good esoteric information that we can get from that.
Speaker 6: I feel like, you know, I mean, it's not even
Speaker 6: just it's not just a spiritual community that has said
Speaker 6: something about a spiritual war, the shift going on, or
Speaker 6: like a you know what I mean. I feel like
Speaker 6: it's kind of just this this thing that's been across
Speaker 6: the whole world, you know, And so what does that mean?
Speaker 6: You know, I don't know. I just I would really
Speaker 6: like to try to get to the bottom of some
Speaker 6: of these things, because I feel like these are the
Speaker 6: types of things that if we can all understand and
Speaker 6: go oh, we've been fucking doing it all wrong, you know,
Speaker 6: it's like, Okay, no mistake now, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: that's what we gotta do.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, well, look, maybe we'll get into that next episode,
Speaker 2: but until next time, we love you and we'll see
Speaker 2: you on the flip side.
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