Speaker 1: Welcome to thrilling threads, where we pull on the most
provocative strands of information we can find, offering you the
shortcut to being the most well informed person in the room.
Speaker 2: And today we are casting off the mooring lines and
heading straight into the ultimate existential question, are we alone?
Speaker 1: Right? And for years this whole conversation, it's always been
about the skies, UAP's UFOs.
Speaker 2: Exactly, But the startling claim we're synthesizing today it just
completely ships the focus. The deepest, most enduring secrets about
non human intelligence. Well, they might not be above.
Speaker 1: Us at all, They might be right beneath.
Speaker 2: Us, right beneath our feet in the oceans.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Our exploration today centers on a really comprehensive investigation.
We're looking at sources like the report Ross Coulthart put
together on News Nation, which focuses squarely on unidentified submerged
objects or USOS.
Speaker 2: And you really need to understand the premise right out
of the gate here. The claims are they're profound. We're
dealing with these allegations that if the Erican public knew
how deep this lie went, we would potentially have a
national crisis on our hands.
Speaker 1: That's a huge statement, and it really provides the frame
for our mission today. We're taking the extraordinary claims from
this investigative work and we're going to break them down
for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, our sources, they've compiled testimony and data well from everyone,
deep dive explorers, a sitting US congressman.
Speaker 1: A former rear admiral who's an expert in oceanography.
Speaker 2: And highly credible eyewitnesses. So we're here to navigate those
threads for you, give you the full context of what's
being claimed.
Speaker 1: And our mission isn't just to repeat the claims. We
want to analyze what they mean. We're covering this immense scope,
both geographically and technologically.
Speaker 2: From the freezing depths of the Baltic Sea all the way.
Speaker 1: To the warm, hyperactive trenches right off the coast of
southern California. We'll be talking about objects moving at well
impossible speeds, evidence of governmental secrecy, and this is the
really weird part. Technical equipment that just fails in these
very specific, localized ways.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's unpack this, let's do it, and maybe let's
just establish the fundamental context here. First, seventy percent of
the Earth's surface is covered by water. Right, we have
better maps of Mars than we do of our own
ocean floor. I mean, think about that.
Speaker 1: That's wild.
Speaker 2: It is we've explored, in any kind of detail less
than five percent of the global ocean volume. So if
you were a non human intelligence and you were looking
for the perfect spot to set up shop.
Speaker 1: The place it's globally accessible but completely.
Speaker 2: Hidden, exactly a place free from human disturbance and detection.
The oceans provide that perfect vast wilderness. They hold the
key to remaining undetected, and that is where we have
to start directing our attention.
Speaker 1: So we begin our investigation way up north in the
cold dark waters of the Baltic Sea with an accidental discovery.
That is, since I mean it's completely polarized scientists explores
the public the Baltic Sea Anomaly or BSA.
Speaker 2: And this story it doesn't start with fringe theorists. It
starts with professional commercial explorers, right, specifically a man named
Dennis Asberg. He's a Swedish deep dive explorer, co founder
of the ocean X team. Their reputation is built on
finding historical shipwrecks salvaging cargo.
Speaker 1: So these guys know what they're doing. They're not amateurs,
not at all.
Speaker 2: They are experts in their domain. They know what the
ocean floor is supposed to look like.
Speaker 1: And the discovery itself was Yeah, it was an accident.
Happened back in June of twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Asberg and his team they were just doing routine
deep scans of the ocean floor looking for potential res
and then about two and a half hours into the scan,
something massive and just unnatural appears on their monitor.
Speaker 1: I think I remember him saying his colleague Peter just
looked at the screen and said, Dennis, you know here,
it's a UFO.
Speaker 2: That's it. That immediate reaction, it just underscores how strange
this thing looked.
Speaker 1: So what did it look like?
Speaker 2: Well, the BSA is described in the sources as this massive, circular,
sort of disc shaped underwater formation. It's about two hundred
feet wide, just sitting there on the ocean floor near
the border regions of Russia and Finland.
Speaker 1: Two hundred feet so we're talking about the size of
a jumbo jet.
Speaker 2: We are. It's enormous, and instantly, of course, the controversy
just explodes.
Speaker 1: Right because the debunkers immediately jumped on it.
Speaker 2: Of course, they argued it had to be a natural
rock formation, maybe a glacial deposit left over from the
ice age, which you know is common in that part
of the world.
Speaker 1: But Asberg's team they just weren't buying it.
Speaker 2: No, they've vehemently insisted on its anomalous nature, and they
point to its geometry. It has these extremely unusual, almost
manufactured looking straight lines and right angles features that are well,
they're highly unusual in natural geology.
Speaker 1: And what's really compelling here is Asberg's perspective. You know,
as a seasoned professional. They asked him if it's just
a big lump of rock, and his response was something like,
this is a very interesting rock and.
Speaker 2: One that neither he nor his colleagues who explore all
over the world had ever seen before.
Speaker 1: So what he's emphasizing there is that, yeah, the sea
floor is full of strange shapes, but even among his
professional peers, nobody has ever found a natural formation with
this specific, almost engineered geometry.
Speaker 2: The shape just doesn't fit with any known geological processes
in the Baltic region.
Speaker 1: But the shape is really only half the mystery, isn't
it The true core of the BSA enigma is in
the technological disruptions.
Speaker 2: Yes, the things the ocean X team experienced every single
time they got close to the object. We're talking about
specific repeated failures of sophisticated equipment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the source material meticulously documents all of this. They
had multiple issues with their radar systems when they position
their boat directly over the anomaly.
Speaker 2: Right, specifically, these phantom ships appeared on their radar screen
signals that indicated physical vessels where there was nothing there.
Speaker 1: And Asberg confirmed, these phantom signals were only visible right
over the anomaly.
Speaker 2: Correct, they didn't move away, they were just these persistent
false signatures, a classic sign of electronic interference.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's the surface, But then you get to
the equipment they actually put in the water, the ROV,
the remote operated vehicle.
Speaker 2: And the moment that ROV got near the BSA, the
failure started happening, and in a very localized systemic way.
Speaker 1: So what failed everything?
Speaker 2: Asbird noted, the ROV malfunction completely. The camera just stopped working,
the lights went out, and maybe the most crucial piece
of data here, the compass did not work properly. The compass,
the magnetic compass was giving wildly inaccurate readings. It was
just spinning, which indicates a very strong, very localized magnetic
or electromagnetic field disturbance. That was just overwhelming the vehicle's
navigational tool.
Speaker 1: I have to stop you there, because why is the
compass failure the most telling detail? A camera dying? I mean,
that could be a short circuit from water pressure or something.
Right that happens.
Speaker 2: That is an excellent point, and it really focuses the synthesis.
If the camera or the lights fail, that's a hard
war failure. It could be anything. But if the compass fails,
that suggests a profound, localized interference with the Earth's natural
magnetic field or the.
Speaker 1: Creation of a massive artificial field by the object itself.
Speaker 2: Precisely, the fact that all these equipment failures were so localized,
so systemic, and included critical navigational tools, it suggests an
active zone of deterrence.
Speaker 1: Asberg put it best in me, he said, it feels
like this thing or whatever it is, don't want us to.
Speaker 2: Come near it exactly, And that changes the conversation completely.
It's one thing to see a strange two hundred foot
diss on the seabed and argue, oh, it's just a rock.
Speaker 1: It's another thing entirely. When that rock actively kills your compass,
messes with your radar, and shuts down your rov every
single time you approach it.
Speaker 2: That moves it from a simple geological curiosity to well
to a non natural structure that is actively, maybe even defensively,
emitting a powerful localized field.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if the Baltic Sea anomaly provide the physical
evidence of this localized underwater strangeness.
Speaker 2: Then the political context provides the alarming framework for why
this information might have been suppressed and why the military
is now paying very close attention.
Speaker 1: And that takes us cross the Atlantic to the halls
of Congress and Congressman timber chat Right.
Speaker 2: Birchett has become one of the most visible, most vocal
voices in Congress pushing for transparency on UAPs and USOS.
Speaker 1: He's identified in our sources as a just an open
skeptic of the official US government position. He's not buying
the idea that all these sightings are just whether balloons
or hoaxes.
Speaker 2: No, and his dedication is formalized by his role as
co chair of the bipartisan UAP caucus he launched that
effort specifically to follow up on the extraordinary claims from
whistleblowers like David Grush the crash retrieval progress exactly and critically,
He's focused on strengthening whistleblower protections, which tells you he
firmly believes there is more information waiting to be disclosed.
Speaker 1: People know things, and his specific interest in USOS it
didn't start with things coming out of the water. It
started with pilots.
Speaker 2: Yes. He noted that in his conversations, pilots kept mentioning
that the sightings, the really high strangeness events almost always
seemed to happen over or near water.
Speaker 1: That correlation led him to a chance conversation with a
retired admiral about what was it five or six deep
water areas?
Speaker 2: Yes, and these areas seem to correlate precisely with the
frequency of these very strange observations.
Speaker 1: Wait, I have to ask five or six spaces. That
sounds like the kind of specific, almost mythological detail that
should make us a little skeptical. Did Burchett clarify where
that number came from.
Speaker 2: That's a crucial question, and he was quite specific. He
stated that the number came directly from some Navy officials
that had in fact broached that subject.
Speaker 1: With him, so multiple sources.
Speaker 2: He presented it as information he'd gleaned from internal sources
who had specialized knowledge of these anomalous high frequency zones.
The consistency of that detail suggests it's rooted in some
kind of internal observ or tracking, even if the government
denies the interpretation of them as bases.
Speaker 1: Okay, so assuming there is data tracking these zones. The
most astonishing claim Burchet presents about usos is their speed,
their velocity underwater.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He discusses reports that claim objects have been detected
moving at speeds of two hundred miles per hour underwater.
Speaker 1: Two hundred.
Speaker 2: Here's where it gets a really interesting because we have
to put that claimed two hundred mile hour speed into
a tangible context for you. The source material notes that
our fastest most advanced conventional human technology for underwater movement,
our torpedoes, are submersibles. We're limited to speeds around thirty
mile per hour, maybe a little higher in short bursts.
Speaker 1: So two hundred miles per hour, that's just yeah, it's
fundamentally impossible with our current understanding of hydrodynamics.
Speaker 2: Totally to really grasp that friction. Can you break down
the analogy they used in the source? It was incredibly powerful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Burchet used the analogy of shooting a bullet. When
you shoot a bullet through the air, it can travel
a mile, maybe morecause their resistance is relatively minimal. But
if you try to shoot that exact same bullet into
a swimming pool, it'll travel just a few feet before
the immense hydrodynamic drag of the water just brings it
to a complete stop. Water is exponentially denser. It exerts
this immense force.
Speaker 2: The force required to maintain two hundred miles an hour
underwater with that kind of friction, it's almost incomprehensible. It
would tear apart any conventional metal structure we could build.
Speaker 1: And the energy source required would have to be far
beyond anything we currently possess.
Speaker 2: Which leads us directly to the concept of supercavitation.
Speaker 1: Right our own attempt at this it's our.
Speaker 2: Own advanced, but very limited method of mitigating that drag.
It involves creating a massive gas bubble around a submerged object,
allowing it to move faster by well by essentially traveling
through air instead of water.
Speaker 1: But even with supercavitation, we're still dramatically limited in speed
and maybe more importantly, maneuverability.
Speaker 2: Exactly, for something to move at two hundred mile para
and then execute these rapid tight terms as usos are
often reported to do, it requires not just mitigating drag,
but eliminating it. It suggests a propulsion technology that uses
field manipulation or maybe some form of anti gravity, something
that radically alters the space or the water around the object.
Speaker 1: That gap two hundred mills para versus our thirty nine
per hour limit. That's the most definitive proof of non
human technology right there.
Speaker 2: And this impossible physics. It leads directly back to the
underwater basis theory. If they can move at these speeds
use propulsion systems we don't.
Speaker 1: Understand, the logical conclusion is that they're operating from a
location that facilitates all this exactly.
Speaker 2: Burchet suggests these non human entities are using the vastness
and the unexplored nature of the ocean to remain undisturbed,
operating outside of the heavy shipping lanes or military surveillance zones.
Speaker 1: He said the concentration of sightings over water just made
the concept of established basis a necessity for any kind
of sustained operations.
Speaker 2: And his conclusion about why the government is so intent
on maintaining the secrecy is well, it's probably the most
politically damning statement in the entire report.
Speaker 1: When he was asked directly if you believe the government
was lying to the American people.
Speaker 2: His response was crystal clear, Yes, sir, I do. He argues,
the secrecy isn't fundamentally about the technology itself, although that's
a factor. It's about power and.
Speaker 1: Control and maintaining secrecy over global governments.
Speaker 2: Yes, the ability to control this extraordinary knowledge and the
implication that a superior civilization is operating on our planet undetected,
that is what fuels the cover up. The political thread
suggests the mystery of USOS is fundamentally a matter of
national and global control.
Speaker 1: The political thread gives us the why for the secrecy.
But if Burchett is right, if these five or six
bases exist, the next logical question isn't why, it's where.
Where is the US military actively encountering this mystery right now?
Speaker 2: And that takes us straight to the most active US
hotspot for both us UP and USOS. The coast of
southern California.
Speaker 1: Specifically, the focus is on the deep complex bethymetry around
Redondo Canyon, the Santa Monica Basin, and the Catalina Channel.
Speaker 2: And the sources here used the geographical expertise of a
highly credentialed individual, Rear Admiral Timothy galadet right.
Speaker 1: He has a doctorate in oceanography, former NOAA administrator, so
his analysis provides the scientific weight behind why this specific
area is a perfect concealment location.
Speaker 2: Galada pointed out that recent research in this region used
highly resolved data sets things like multi beam bethymmetry and
side scan and sonar.
Speaker 1: Okay, So for US learners, what is multi beam pathymetry.
Speaker 2: It's essentially three D mapping of the ocean floor. It
uses hundreds of focused acoustic beams. At the same time,
it gives you an extremely detailed, high resolution picture of
the topography, revealing canyons and features we just couldn't see before.
Speaker 1: And what that highris data revealed is a topographical nightmare
for human.
Speaker 2: Explorers, but a dream come true for.
Speaker 1: Gallatt described the region, particularly the steep walls of the
Redondo Canyon, as a great place to do it. If
a USO wanted to hide or enter and exit the
deep ocean undetected.
Speaker 2: He explained that the canyon acts almost like a mono
rail route, a ready made subterranean highway that leads right
into the region where so many UAPs have already been
sighted by Navy ships.
Speaker 1: Including the ships involved in the famous tic Tac incident
for their south precisely, but even more fascinating is the
natural concealment that the geology offers. The area is characterized
by these very active areas with frequent turbidity flows.
Speaker 2: Okay, we need to slow down and explain what that is,
because it is key to the concealment theory.
Speaker 1: It's basically a rapid underwater.
Speaker 2: Landslide, an avalanche yeah sediment, silt, sand, mud. It builds
upon the steep sides of the canyon and then due
to an earthquake or just gravity, it slides down the
canyon walls at high speed. This natural process moves vast
amounts of sediment and instantly it just obliterates any trace
of activity on the seabed.
Speaker 1: So if a highly advanced object was hovering on the
canyon floor, or if it was speeding into the deep ocean,
using the canyon as a route. A turbidity flow could
instantly obscure any thermal signature, destroy any physical evidence.
Speaker 2: Or just bury whatever entered the area. It is an
active natural camouflage mechanism.
Speaker 1: This topographical analysis prompted the investigative team led by Ben
Hansen to try and explore the canyon firsthand.
Speaker 2: Right they deployed their advanced ROV about five miles off
shore of Verdondo Bouch, aiming to drop down to about
nine hundred to one thousand feet, which is dumb enough
to get to the canyon floor.
Speaker 1: And Hanson confirmed they were using world class equipment, an
ocean body's ROV with high res sonar and a mechanical grabber.
But their goal wasn't really retrieval, No, it.
Speaker 2: Was just confirming the environmental conditions that galadet theorized about, and.
Speaker 1: They ran straight into the defining characteristic of this area,
the visibility problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the expedition showed that the bottom of the canyon,
which is profound silty. It's filled with fine sand and
silt that's collected over thousands of years of these underwater landslides.
Speaker 1: So the moment the ROV landed or tried to move.
Speaker 2: It just instantly created this massive, opaque cloud of dust
and sediment. The practical difficulty of exploration was immediate and severe.
Speaker 1: Even with powerful lights, their visibility was reduced to only
about twenty feet.
Speaker 2: And that level of depth, combined with this constant layer
of loose silt, it provides unparalleled natural camouflage. It physically
supports the theory that even our most sophisticated, world class
equipment can't penetrate this environment effectively.
Speaker 1: Which means usos could easily operate and hide in these
structures right off our coast.
Speaker 2: The ocean doesn't just conceal because it's big. It actively
conceals because of its geological volatility. Redondo Canyon, with its
deep walls, its dynamic turbidity flows, and its silty bottom,
it's a truly perfect environment for non human activity to
go completely undetected.
Speaker 1: Right on the doorstep of one of the world's most
populous regions.
Speaker 2: So the geography establishes the perfect hiding spot. But what
are the people who actually work these waters seeing?
Speaker 1: Right, let's move to the human dimension. We'll start with
Captain Thor Lisson, a boat captain who runs sport fishing
charters near Dana Point Harbor and Katalina Island. He is
a professional mariner. He knows these waters intimately.
Speaker 2: He knows every light, every buoy, every ship that moves
through there.
Speaker 1: And Thora's first major sighting was on September thirteenth, twenty
twenty one, near Catalina, which, as we noted, is the
same general region as the famous two thousand and four
tik Tak incident.
Speaker 2: And he filmed it. He recorded three highly unusual orange spheres.
Speaker 1: His description of these objects was so vivid, which to
me is often the marker of a high impact, genuine event.
Speaker 2: Totally, he didn't just see balls of light. He called
the miniature galaxies. He said, if he looked closely, they
had this spiral misty look inside like a collection of stars,
not a solid bulb, but an energetic, gaseous sphere.
Speaker 1: And their behavior just defies explanation. He said. They were
constantly changing colors from red to black to orange.
Speaker 2: And they were actively merging into one massive sphere, then
splitting back into three, disappearing for moments at a time,
and then reappearing instantly in a different spot.
Speaker 1: And he watched this for about ten intense.
Speaker 2: Minutes, and the culmination of the sighting was the dramatic end.
The objects dropped down close to the water until they
just vanished. Sore was explicit. He said, it looked like
they disappeared into the.
Speaker 1: Ocean, which immediately classifies them as USOS.
Speaker 2: Right, and the investigation team, to their credit, they did
their due diligence here, which is vital for credibility.
Speaker 1: They checked the Marine Casualty database to rule out any
distress flares nearby.
Speaker 2: Camp Pendleton also confirmed they had no nighttime drills with
flares or any unusual air activity scheduled for that date,
and they.
Speaker 1: Also rigorously ruled out the SpaceX rocket launch that happened
that night from Vandenberg Air Force Base about one hundred
and fifty five miles north.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and while that launch was visible from the region,
investigators determined that based on the trajectory and the precise
timing of thor sighting, the event he witnessed these miniature
galaxies merging and diving into the ocean was physically and
temporarily inconsistent with the rocket's path. It was inexplicable.
Speaker 1: Okay, so if the orange orbs were just strange. The
second encounter Thor had was profoundly terrifying.
Speaker 2: Yes, this one illustrates the emotional cost of encountering the unknown.
This happened while he was five to seven miles off Avalon,
in water that is noted to be extremely deep, over
thirteen four hundred feet the true Pacific abyss, and.
Speaker 1: He described driving his boat directly over something massive which
then flashed these powerful lights straight up at his boat.
Speaker 2: He insisted they weren't faint or diffuse. They were bright
white like baseball stadium lights, beaming up from below and
surrounding his boat in a radius of about fifty yards.
Speaker 1: Just imagine that for a second. You're in the deep,
pitch black ocean and suddenly the area around your boat
is lit up like the sun is right underneath your hull.
Speaker 2: And a professional mariner like Thor, he's used to natural
ocean phenomena, he immediately ruled out the obvious candidates. He
confirmed this was not by a luminescence right.
Speaker 1: Not phosphorus or algae blooms.
Speaker 2: Those glow green, They're often weak, and they do not
project focused, stadium bright white light with the power he saw.
This was a technological light source operating at a tremendous stepth.
Speaker 1: And the emotional takeaway from this encounter, it just encapsulates
the existential terror of it all.
Speaker 2: He said, the level of fear was so intense, so immediate.
He sat there the rest of the night with a
gun in my hand, waiting for something to come creeping
out of the water.
Speaker 1: Wow, I mean that visceral quote, that feeling of profound
psychological disarmament. That's the reality of facing something technologically superior
and utterly unknown in a place we thought we controlled.
Speaker 2: It's an encounter with the truly alien right here on Earth.
Speaker 1: And this fear inducing encounter is not an isolated one.
The source material connected Thor's experience to another account from
an air traffic controller.
Speaker 2: Which provides crucial context that military assets are also away
of this deep water activity.
Speaker 1: So what was the controller's story.
Speaker 2: The controller claimed that jets were scrambled somewhere between the
coast and the channel because a pilot had witnessed a
light the size of a city under the water.
Speaker 1: The size of a city.
Speaker 2: If that report is true, it suggests that not only
are there localized, powerful light sources beaming up from the ABYSS,
but these sources are sometimes massive, maybe miles wide. And
significant enough to trigger an immediate military response.
Speaker 1: The eyewitness accounts are compelling and terrifying, but let's go
back to the search for physical measurable evidence.
Speaker 2: Right, evidence that something is affecting the known laws of
physics in that specific southern California area.
Speaker 1: So Ben Hansen's team they conducted an aerial survey over
the Catalina and Laguna Beach area, trying to map out
an active anomalist zone.
Speaker 2: And for the survey they used sophisticated third party scientific
equipment detectors called the Cosmic Watch, which were provided by
a doctor Can zag Zadagas, and the.
Speaker 1: Goal is to fly this very precise back and forth
track over the area where sightings and military activity were
most frequent to see if they could detect any unusual particle,
radiation or energetic fields.
Speaker 2: While flying this specific rectangular track, they immediately encountered strange
technical issues with their own aircraft systems.
Speaker 1: Their GPS data, and more significantly, their ADSB data kept
disappearing and malfunctioning, but only within that defined anomalist zone
around Laguna Beach.
Speaker 2: Okay, this failure of ADSB is hugely significant, so we
should explain it ADSB stands for Automatic Dependent Surveillance Broadcast.
Speaker 1: It's the modern standard system all commercial and most private
aircraft used to broadcast their precise position, altitude, and velocity.
Speaker 2: It's redundant, it's resilient, it's broadcast continuously. The fact that
this data kept failing locally within a specific, small rectangular
area is well, it's statistically technically impossible for conventional reasons.
Speaker 1: That's the key. Hanson noted. The systems would immediately return
to normal operation the moment the plane left the anomalous area.
Speaker 2: Just like the ROV and the Baltic Sea. It suggests
a localized systemic interference that is overwhelming standard navigational and
tracking technology.
Speaker 1: But the truly anomalous physical data came from the particle
detector itself.
Speaker 2: Right. The cosmic Watch is designed to detect and count muons,
which are high energy particles raining down from space, and
when doctor Zeidigiz analyzed the results from the flight path,
he found something entirely unexpected.
Speaker 1: Initially, the particle detector data seemed to start rising faster
than what would be naturally expected from just standard cosmic
rays at that altitude.
Speaker 2: Which suggested they were entering an area where particle output
was increasing rapidly, maybe from an exotic energy source.
Speaker 1: But then came the critical failure, the centerpiece of the
technical evidence.
Speaker 2: The device, which is designed to count fundamental particles. It
just suddenly started taking data. It went into to a failure.
Speaker 1: Road, and doctor Zata was reported this as a systematic
failure he had never seen before in all his tests,
and he couldn't replicate it despite trying multiple times to
force the same unit into that same mode.
Speaker 2: Let's just clarify this for everyone listening. A particle detector
counts high energy particles hitting it constantly. If it suddenly
stops counting, it's the equivalent of sound just stopping in
a room. It suggests that something active is blocking or
suppressing or neutralizing the fundamental physics the device relies on
to measure reality.
Speaker 1: And critically, the device started working perfectly again the moment
the plane left that anomalis sare space.
Speaker 2: It functioned before and after flying through that zone. It
only failed while inside it. This localized suppression of data
acquisition aligns perfectly with the localized interference we saw in
the Baltic Sea anomaly. Both suggest an active, non natural
field is being generated doctors.
Speaker 1: Dagis was asked about this strange data failure, specifically whether
it supported the speculation of a portal or a tear
in the.
Speaker 2: Sky, and his measured scientific conclusion was vital to maintaining
scientific integrity Here. While he said he would love to
be able to say that he confirmed, they lack sufficient
evidence to say it's a portal.
Speaker 1: Specifically, they don't have data confirming gravitational anomalies or gravitational waves,
which would be the signature evidence of a wormhole or
a massive space time distortion.
Speaker 2: That level of constraint is what separates speculation from scientific fact.
Even when you're confronted with these highly compelling, unreplicable anomalies,
a particle detector just stopping mid flight ADSB systems failing.
Science has to adhere to its methodology.
Speaker 1: But, as doctor Zidogas concluded, they now have more evidence
that there is something strange in the Catalina area that
demands further and more sophisticated investigations.
Speaker 2: So we have geographical advantages providing perfect concealment. We have
political secrecy driven by the implication of non human control.
We have physical evidence of impossible speeds, and technological failure
both in the ocean and in the sky above, and
we have eyewitness accounts of terrifying encounters. It's time to
synthesize these deep, thrilling threads.
Speaker 1: To help bring this all home. The Sources consulted author
and investigator Richard Dolan, a leading expert on USOS who
confirms that the collection of facts around the Catalina area
is well, it's alarmingly consistent.
Speaker 2: Dolan affirms that there is an inordinate number of truly
fascinating UAP and USO cases clustered specifically in the Catalina area.
This isn't just random noise. It's a high density cluster
of activity that's recognized by serious researchers.
Speaker 1: And we have to emphasize the military context again. This
area is critically close to major US Navy operational zones
near San Diego and is of course the general location
of the famous uss Nimitz tic Tac encounter.
Speaker 2: The Navy is operating right on top of this anomaly zone,
which means they are either observing it, interacting with it,
or being actively out maneuvered by whatever this presence is.
Speaker 1: Dolan pushed the speculation to its logical conclusion addressing the
possibility of a non human base.
Speaker 2: Right, he reiterated the view, maybe connecting back to Congressman
Burchett's sources, that of the few places on the planet
with real potential for a non human base, Catalina Island
or somewhere around that is a real possibility.
Speaker 1: The combination of deep concealment friendly canyons and its proximity
to the open Pacific makes it the ideal strategic location.
Speaker 2: And the final context here forces us to zoom out
and revisit the scope of the entire mystery. Ross Coulthart
summarized it perfectly by reminding us of the basic geographical reality.
Seventy percent of Earth's surface area is covered by oceans.
Speaker 1: And we know shockingly little about them. We're always talking
about the stars, but the true frontier is right here.
Speaker 2: This lack of knowledge is precisely why our attention has
to be directed toward the depths as the most plausible
explanation for the entire UAP and UFO mystery.
Speaker 1: If these objects are truly non human, if they're using technology,
they can move at two hundred mile apart and eliminate drag.
Then establishing bases or transit hubs in the ocean is
the definitive strategy for remaining hidden from us a civilization
that primarily scans the atmosphere on the surface.
Speaker 2: So what does this all mean? Our journey today reveals
this consistent pattern that runs across the globe. We have
technological malfunctions near physical anomalies like the Baltic Sea anomaly.
Speaker 1: We have astonishing impossible claims about speed two hundred molli
par usos. We have allegations of military secrecy and non
human bases.
Speaker 2: Compelling eyewitness accounts of objects entering the ocean and flashing
stadium bright lights from the ABYSS.
Speaker 1: And physical evidence of GPS and particle detection systems just
failing in the airspace directly above this hotspot. The picture
that's painted is one of highly advanced, seemingly non human
technology using the most inaccessible, yet globally connected region of
our planet.
Speaker 2: It forces us to reconsider the fundamental challenge to human
exploration and our perceived control over the Earth. If non
human intelligence has established itself in our deepest, most remote regions,
the implication isn't that we're exploring them.
Speaker 1: It's that we're simply observing them.
Speaker 2: Observing US exactly. The most powerful civilizations don't hide in
plain sight on land where our satellites and radar arcdents.
They utilize the vast inaccessible wilderness right beneath our commercial
shipping lanes and naval exercise areas.
Speaker 3: We've explored claims of impossible speed, deep ocean concealment, and
political secrecy regarding USOS. Given that we have only explored
a tiny fraction of our planet's oceans, do you believe
these deep water areas hold a definitive answer to the
UAP mystery? Or is the ocean simply the last best
place for these objects to remain undisturbed.
Speaker 1: Let us know what you think.