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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the quart Side Quantum Physics Podcast, an exploration

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<v Speaker 1>of the fundamental structure of reality, where quantum laws govern matter, energy,

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<v Speaker 1>and information. Here, uncertainty is a feature, not a flaw,

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<v Speaker 1>and understanding begins at the smallest scales.

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<v Speaker 2>So there is this really persistent idea in astronomy, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just human nature at this point. If

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<v Speaker 2>you want to see something better, or you see something

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<v Speaker 2>further away, you just need to build something bigger.

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<v Speaker 3>Right the classic light bucket philosophy.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly the light bucket. You want to see a faint star,

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<v Speaker 2>build a bigger bucket to catch the light. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to see a smaller detail, build a wider mirror to

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<v Speaker 2>sharpen the image. It's a very brute force.

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<v Speaker 3>Approach, it is. But to be fair, it has served

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<v Speaker 3>us incredibly well for about four hundred years. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>from Galileo's first spyglass all the way to the James

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<v Speaker 3>webspased telescope. The fundamental logic has remained entirely consistent. More

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<v Speaker 3>surface area equal more photons and more photons equal better resolution.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that makes total sense. But we are doing a

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<v Speaker 2>deep dive today into a stack of papers specifically focusing

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<v Speaker 2>on a proposal published in Physical Review Letters in February

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six that suggests we are finally hitting.

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<v Speaker 3>A wall, a hard physical wall, yes right.

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<v Speaker 2>A wall where building bigger just isn't feasible anymore. The

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<v Speaker 2>team behind this research involves folks from the University of Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>the University of Maryland, and the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center,

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<v Speaker 2>and their argument is absolutely fascinating.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is. They are basically saying that to take

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<v Speaker 3>the next massive leap in seeing the universe, we don't

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<v Speaker 3>need to pour more glass. We need to completely hack

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<v Speaker 3>the physics of light itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Which brings us to the core mission of our deep

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<v Speaker 2>dive today. For you listening, we are going to unpack

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<v Speaker 2>how scientists plan to build Earth sized telescopes without actually

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<v Speaker 2>building a single Earth sized physical object.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a complete paradigm shift, and I really don't

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<v Speaker 3>use that phrase lightly. We're looking at a proposal that

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<v Speaker 3>effectively suggests replacing the physical transportation of gathered starlight with

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<v Speaker 3>quantum teleportation.

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<v Speaker 2>Quantum teleportation, that is the exact headline that stopped me

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<v Speaker 2>in my tracks. It sounds like science fiction or a

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<v Speaker 2>comic book. Movie plot. But this is serious, peer reviewed

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<v Speaker 2>academic work. The paper is titled super Resolution Imaging with

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<v Speaker 2>Entanglement Enhanced Telescopy.

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<v Speaker 3>And if this protocol works, we aren't just talking about

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<v Speaker 3>getting a slightly sharper picture of a distant star cluster.

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<v Speaker 3>We are talking about decoupling the resolution of a telescope

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<v Speaker 3>from its physical size and location, entirely.

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<v Speaker 2>Creating a virtual giant using the laws of quantum mechanics.

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<v Speaker 2>So before we get to the quantum magic, and it

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<v Speaker 2>really does feel like magic, we need to rigorously understand

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<v Speaker 2>the status quo. Why can't we just keep building bigger mirrors,

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<v Speaker 2>or more specifically, why is the current method of combining

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<v Speaker 2>multiple telescopes so incredibly difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>To understand that we have to start with the concept

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<v Speaker 3>of long baseline interferometry. This is currently the gold standard

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<v Speaker 3>for high resolution imaging in astronomy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's unpack that definition for the listener. What is

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<v Speaker 2>long baseline interferometry technically speaking?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So, in its technical application, interferometry is the practice

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<v Speaker 3>of combining electromagnetic signals, which in this context is visible

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<v Speaker 3>starlight collected by multiple spatially separated telescopes. So imagine you

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<v Speaker 3>have telescope A and.

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<v Speaker 2>Telescope B, and they are separated by a good distance, right,

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<v Speaker 2>say a kilometer.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly separated by one kilometer. Now separately, there are just

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<v Speaker 3>two modest instruments. But if you can take the light

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<v Speaker 3>caught by telescope A and a light cought by telescope

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<v Speaker 3>B and physically combine those light beams at a central point,

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<v Speaker 3>you trick the physics. You create what we call an

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<v Speaker 3>effective aperture.

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<v Speaker 2>An effective aperture, so the universe essentially behaves as if

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<v Speaker 2>it's being observed by one giant mirror that spans that

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<v Speaker 2>entire one kilometer distance between them.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, you achieve the resolution the sharpness of a telescope

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<v Speaker 3>with a one kilometer wide mirror, even though physically you

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<v Speaker 3>mostly just have empty dirt and air between the two facilities.

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<v Speaker 3>The baseline is that distance between the furthest individual telescopes

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<v Speaker 3>in your array, the longer the baseline, the sharper the

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<v Speaker 3>image you can reconstruct.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this sounds a lot like how we got that

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<v Speaker 2>famous image of the black hole a few years back,

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<v Speaker 2>right the event horizon telescope that was basically an earth

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<v Speaker 2>sized virtual telescope that is a.

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<v Speaker 3>Very crucial comparison to make, but there is a major

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<v Speaker 3>catch there. The event horizon telescope use radio waves. Radio

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<v Speaker 3>waves are long, lazy wavelengths. They are roughly a millimeter

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<v Speaker 3>or more long, and because they are so slow and

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<v Speaker 3>large in a physical sense, you can literally record the

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<v Speaker 3>incoming wave data onto hard drives at each telescope.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I see, you just stamp a timecode on the data.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, you stamp a GPS timecode on it, put the

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<v Speaker 3>hard drives in a FedEx box, shift them to a

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<v Speaker 3>supercomputer facility, and combine the waves digitally. Months later.

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<v Speaker 2>You can just record the wave and play back. But

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<v Speaker 2>we are talking about optical astronomy today visible light.

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<v Speaker 3>Right with visible light, the wavelengths are tiny. We are

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<v Speaker 3>talking hundreds of nanometers. They oscillate at frequencies of hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>of terror herds. You absolutely cannot record the wave of

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<v Speaker 3>a single photon on a hard drive and combine it later.

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<v Speaker 3>The technology to digitize a LightWave at that speed simply

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>So to do enterferometry with visible light, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>combine the actual physical light waves in real time.

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<v Speaker 3>You do, which means if you have a telescope in

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona and a telescope in Maryland. You literally have to

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<v Speaker 3>transport the photon from Arizona to a central lab and

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<v Speaker 3>the photon from Maryland to that same lab without those

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<v Speaker 3>photons dying or getting out of sink.

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<v Speaker 2>And that brings us to the primary villain of our

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<v Speaker 2>story today, the physical optical link, or as the source

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<v Speaker 2>material frames it in engineering terms, the beam splitter bottleneck.

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<v Speaker 3>It is an absolute nightmare for engineers. Just think about

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<v Speaker 3>the logistics involved. You need to transport a f fragile

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<v Speaker 3>using vacuum tubes, literally burying light pipes in the ground

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<v Speaker 3>containing a series of perfect mirrors to bounce the light along.

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<v Speaker 3>Or alternatively, you try to use fiber optic cables.

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<v Speaker 2>But wait, we use fiber optics for the Internet all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. I can send an email to Australia and

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<v Speaker 2>it gets there in milliseconds. Why can't I just send

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<v Speaker 2>a star photon to Australia through the same cable.

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<v Speaker 3>Because when you send an email, you are sending classical

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<v Speaker 3>digital pulses, a bright flash for a one, a dim

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<v Speaker 3>flash for a zero. If that signal gets weak after

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<v Speaker 3>fifty kilometers of fiber. A repeater station reads the one

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<v Speaker 3>or zero boosts it creates a fresh, loud copy and

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<v Speaker 2>But you can't copy a photon's quantum state bingo.

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<v Speaker 3>The no cloning theorem in quantum mechanics strictly forbids it.

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<v Speaker 3>You cannot amplify or copy an unknown quantum state without

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<v Speaker 3>destroying the original information encoded within it. And in this case,

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<v Speaker 3>the specific phase information of the starlight is exactly which

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<v Speaker 2>So you are forced to send the original exact photon

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<v Speaker 2>that hit the telescope mirror. You have to guide that

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<v Speaker 2>one fragile little packet of energy through kilometers of glass,

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<v Speaker 2>fiber or.

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<v Speaker 3>Vacuum tube, and no material in the universe is perfectly

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<v Speaker 3>transparent over a few kilometers. The glass simply absorbs or

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<v Speaker 3>scatters the photon. It's a process called attenuation.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah So by the time the light from two very

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<v Speaker 2>distant telescopes actually meets in the middle lab, you've lost

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<v Speaker 2>so much signal that there's nothing left to combine.

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<v Speaker 3>The signal is effectively gone. The transport loss places a

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<v Speaker 3>hard physical cap on how big our telescope array can be.

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<v Speaker 3>We simply can't build a ten kilometer optical array using

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<v Speaker 3>classical methods because the light dies in the pipe before

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<v Speaker 2>Which explains why current arrays like the Chara array or

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<v Speaker 2>the VLTI are limited to baselines of just a few

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<v Speaker 2>hundred meters. We want to go to kilometers or even thousands.

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<v Speaker 3>Of kilometers, and conventional interferometry simply cannot scale to those distances.

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<v Speaker 3>The transport losses are two high, and the engineering complexity

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<v Speaker 3>of maintaining phased ability keeping the light waves perfectly in

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<v Speaker 3>sync in a vacuum tube that long is functionally impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are stuck. We desperately want the resolution of

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<v Speaker 2>a giant telescope, but we can't transport the light to

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<v Speaker 2>combine it. This is exactly where the research from Padilla,

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<v Speaker 2>Guha and Sogdod comes. In their paper super Resolution Imaging

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<v Speaker 2>with entanglement Enhanced Telescopy proposes a radical solution to the

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<v Speaker 2>light pipe problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Their solution is brilliant in its sheer audacity. They propose

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<v Speaker 3>that we simply don't transport the light at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but if I don't transport the light to a

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<v Speaker 2>central hub. I can't physically interfere the beams. And if

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<v Speaker 2>I can't interfere the beams, I don't get the high

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<v Speaker 2>resolution image. I mean, that is the entire definition of interferometry.

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<v Speaker 3>In classical physics. Yes, you are completely correct, but this

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<v Speaker 3>team is applying quantum information theory to optics. They are

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<v Speaker 3>positing a fundamental foundational shift in how we think about

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<v Speaker 2>They are saying we should stop treating light like a

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<v Speaker 2>classical wave that needs to be guided through a plumbing

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<v Speaker 2>system of mirrors and tubes.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, they are suggesting we treat the light strictly as

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<v Speaker 3>a quantum object that carries information. This is a very

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<v Speaker 3>important distinction that doctor Psychott Guha makes in the foundational material.

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<v Speaker 3>He rigorously separates quantum optics from quantum information theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, let's look at that distinction. He defines quantum optics

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<v Speaker 2>as the quantum theory of light itself, studying how photons

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<v Speaker 2>physically interact with atoms and mirrors.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, whereas he defines quantum information theory or qiit as

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<v Speaker 3>the mathematical science of quantifying the actual information carried by

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<v Speaker 3>those inherently quantum physical media Qit asks an entirely different

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<v Speaker 3>question than classical optics.

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<v Speaker 2>It asks what is the absolute theoretical maximum amount of

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<v Speaker 2>data I can extract from this quantum state, regardless of

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, they're moving away from a hardware problem, how do

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<v Speaker 3>I build a longer clear glass pipe, to a fundamental

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<v Speaker 3>data processing problem. They're looking strictly at nature's fundamental limits

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<v Speaker 3>regarding information.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about those limits. In classical optical theory, astronomers

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<v Speaker 2>are always battling something called the Railey limit or the

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<v Speaker 2>diffraction limit.

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<v Speaker 3>The blur limit. If you look at two stars that

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<v Speaker 3>is one blurry, elongated blob of light. You mathematically cannot

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<v Speaker 3>tell if it's one star or two.

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<v Speaker 2>And for centuries we just accepted that blur as an

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<v Speaker 2>unbreakable law of physics, a limitation of the universe.

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<v Speaker 3>But the researchers at the Center for Quantum Networks argue

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<v Speaker 3>that the Railey limit is actually just a bad habit.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a limitation of our specific receivers, our lenses

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<v Speaker 3>and camera sensors, not a limitation of the light itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning the information about the two distinct stars is actually

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<v Speaker 2>there in the light hitting the mirror, we just aren't

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<v Speaker 2>catching it properly.

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<v Speaker 3>That is exactly the case. The photons arriving at your

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<v Speaker 3>telescope contain the full necessary quantum information required to distinguish

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<v Speaker 3>those two stars. Do we smash those delicate photons onto

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<v Speaker 3>a focal plane camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Sensor which just measures brightness intensity?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, a camera pixel just counts how many photons hit it.

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<v Speaker 3>In doing so, it aggressively destroys the delicate quantum information,

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<v Speaker 3>the phase, the spatial distribution. We're essentially using a blunt

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<v Speaker 2>So we need a sharper instrument, And the paper introduces

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<v Speaker 3>The quantum Fisher information or QFI is the theoretical ceiling

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<v Speaker 2>And in this astrophysical context, that parameter is the angular

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<v Speaker 2>separation of the two stars, the tiny distance between them

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, the researchers proved mathematically that if you build a

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<v Speaker 3>receiver that respects the QFI mandate. A receiver that extracts

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<v Speaker 3>the quantum information rather than just the classical intensity. The

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<v Speaker 2>That is staggering. You can resolve objects that astronomers previously

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<v Speaker 3>Provided you collect enough data over time. Yes, standard receiver

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<v Speaker 3>techniques are totally suboptimal. Quantum limits allow for a resolution

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<v Speaker 3>that makes the traditional diffraction limit look like a historical artifact.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that covers the theoretical framework. The theory says

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<v Speaker 2>we can see the unseeable if we stop using standard

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<v Speaker 2>cameras and start processing quantum information. But I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get into the actual mechanics of this. If we aren't

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<v Speaker 2>using light pipes to connect the observatories, how do the

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<v Speaker 3>This brings us to the architecture of entanglement enhanced telescopy.

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<v Speaker 3>The proposed receiver design eliminates the physical optical link entirely. Instead,

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<v Speaker 3>two or more distant telescopes share a unified quantum state.

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<v Speaker 2>And this architecture relies on three major cutting edge components.

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<v Speaker 2>Spade replaces the traditional camera sensor at the focal plane.

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<v Speaker 2>But looking at the diagrams and the source material specifically

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't think about what a traditional camera does. It

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<v Speaker 3>asks a very simple question, where did the photon land

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<v Speaker 3>create an image. A spatial mode sorder asks a completely

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<v Speaker 2>The shape of the wavefront. When I think of a photon,

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<v Speaker 3>In quantum optics, you have to think of light arriving

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<v Speaker 3>Think of the light entering the telescope aperture as a

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<v Speaker 3>a simple decibel meter. It just hears loud noise and

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<v Speaker 2>It just measures the intensity of the light exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But the spade device acts like a highly trained musician

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<v Speaker 2>Can we visualize these spatial patterns? What do these modes

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<v Speaker 2>Just a single solid circle of light.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, imagine a different shape. Imagine two distinct lobes

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<v Speaker 3>That is a higher order spatial mode. Or imagine a

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<v Speaker 3>function the light does. Yes, when you have a single

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<v Speaker 3>closer than the Railey limit, their combined light field is

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<v Speaker 2>And that tiny physical displacement alters the wave exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>The displacement causes the incoming light to excite those higher

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<v Speaker 3>order shapes, the Dumbbell mode or the Clover mode. The

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<v Speaker 2>So if your detector sitting at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>Dumbell channel registers of photon, you know instantly that the

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<v Speaker 3>You know instantly that there is a second star there,

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<v Speaker 3>or that the singular source is slightly off center. Unlike

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<v Speaker 3>a camera that just records a blurry blob, the Spade

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<v Speaker 3>device analyzes the specific mode to extract a much richer

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<v Speaker 3>layer of information about the angular separation of the source.

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<v Speaker 2>Knowing which mode was excited tells you exponentially more about

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<v Speaker 2>a CCD chip. That is how they begin to reach

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<v Speaker 2>that quantum Fisher information.

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<v Speaker 3>Limit correct, So that is step one. Telescope A catches

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<v Speaker 3>a photon and runs it through the Spady sorder which

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<v Speaker 3>identifies the spatial mode. Say it's the Dumbbell mode in

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<v Speaker 2>But now we hit a wall again. You have this

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<v Speaker 2>but you can't just text or email that data to

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<v Speaker 2>Telescope B in Maryland, right because true inefrometry requires comparing

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<v Speaker 2>the quantum phase of the light, and any classical measurement

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<v Speaker 2>you make destroys that phase.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. If you measure the photon right then and there

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<v Speaker 3>to see its phase, you collapse its wave function. You

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to somehow save that fragile quantum state

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<v Speaker 3>Which brings us to component two atomic quantum memories. You

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<v Speaker 2>Medium, essentially a hard drive for starlight.

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<v Speaker 3>A quantum hard drive. You have to take that fragile

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<v Speaker 3>photonic state that just came out of the Spade device

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<v Speaker 3>and map it onto an atomic structure. The source material

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<v Speaker 3>vacancies in a diamond lattice.

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<v Speaker 2>Silicon vacancies. These are engineered flaws inside a diamond.

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<v Speaker 3>vacancies have free electrons that act as quibots. They have

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<v Speaker 2>How do you get the starlight into the diamond though?

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<v Speaker 3>The process involves routing the sordied photon into the memory

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<v Speaker 3>using what is called a photon memory cnot gate.

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<v Speaker 2>A cnot gate that is a logic operation from quantum computing,

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<v Speaker 3>It operates as a fundamental quantum logic gait. The system

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<v Speaker 3>takes the incoming photon and forces it to interact with

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<v Speaker 3>quantum state of the photon, its phase, its mode information

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<v Speaker 2>So the original starlight photon is absorbed and gone, but

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<v Speaker 2>its exact quantum information, it's ghost basically is now safely

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<v Speaker 3>At telescope A precisely and Concurrently, the exact same process

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<v Speaker 2>So now you have two diamonds sitting in labs potentially

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<v Speaker 3>And now you face the ultimate challenge. How do you

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<v Speaker 3>and without a physical wire connecting them.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the real cliffhanger of the architecture, and the

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<v Speaker 2>answer is component three teleportation via entanglement.

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<v Speaker 3>Before the astronomical observation even begins, the system operators have

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<v Speaker 3>to predistribute entangled pairs of quibbits to both telescope sites.

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<v Speaker 2>Spooky action at a distance, as Einstein called it.

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<v Speaker 3>It serves as the invisible bridge. Station A holds one

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<v Speaker 3>half of an intangled pair and station B holds the

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<v Speaker 3>other half. As doctor Guha notes, in the theoretical framework,

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<v Speaker 3>quantum entanglement is a correlation that is fundamentally stronger than

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<v Speaker 2>So how does the bridge actually work. You have the

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<v Speaker 2>starlight memory and you have the entangled memory. Sitting next

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<v Speaker 2>to it, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Execute a teleportation protocol. At each telescope site, you perform

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<v Speaker 3>a very specific joint measurement, an X basis measurement on

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<v Speaker 3>both the local diamond memory holding the starlight and the

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<v Speaker 2>You measure them together. Does that transport the starlight to

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<v Speaker 2>the other lab.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't transport the physical atom or a photon, but

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<v Speaker 3>it mimics the exact mathematical result of physical optical interference.

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<v Speaker 3>By performing these measurements at both sites and then sharing

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<v Speaker 3>the results of those measurements over a standard classical internet connection.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, a normal internet connection the classical channel mentioned in

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<v Speaker 2>the outline, Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>A standard fiber optic internet line. By combining the local

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<v Speaker 3>measurem data with the data sent over the classical channel,

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<v Speaker 3>the supercomputer can reconstruct exactly what would have happened if

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<v Speaker 3>you had physically overlapped the two starlight beams in a

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make sure the listener really grasps this,

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<v Speaker 2>because it is mind bending. The physical starlight from telescope

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<v Speaker 2>A never touches the starlight from telescope B.

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<v Speaker 1>Never.

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<v Speaker 2>They never physically interact. Instead, you are combining the measured

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<v Speaker 2>data about the light using the pre shared entangled pairs

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<v Speaker 2>as a sort of cryptographic decoder ring to unlock the

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<v Speaker 3>That is a perfect analogy. The pre shared entanglement acts

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<v Speaker 3>as a perfectly synchronized shared reference frame across the continent.

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<v Speaker 3>It allows you to create virtual interference. The system perfectly

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<v Speaker 3>mimics the mathematical interference pattern without the beams ever having

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<v Speaker 3>to touch.

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<v Speaker 2>You are literally teleporting the electromagnetic reality of the photon

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<v Speaker 2>across a network.

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<v Speaker 3>But hold on, I have a logistical question here. We

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<v Speaker 3>established earlier that you can't send starlight photons through long

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<v Speaker 3>fiber optic cables because of attenuation and transport loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct they get absorbed by the glass.

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<v Speaker 3>Why doesn't that exact same loss problem apply to distributing

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<v Speaker 3>the entangled pairs. If I try to send half of

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<v Speaker 3>an entangled photon pair from Arizona to Maryland to set

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<v Speaker 3>up this bridge, won't you just die in the fiber two?

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<v Speaker 2>You are absolutely right to ask that it is the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same physical limitation. If you try to send an

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<v Speaker 2>entangled photon directly over one thousand kilometers of fiber, it

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<v Speaker 2>will almost certainly be lost So.

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<v Speaker 3>Aren't we just back to square one. We still have

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<v Speaker 3>a distance limit.

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<v Speaker 2>We would be except for one crucial difference. For the

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<v Speaker 2>entangled pairs. We can utilize the technology called quantum repeaters,

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<v Speaker 2>and this relies on a process known as entanglement swapping.

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<v Speaker 3>Entanglement swapping walk us through how that circumvents the distance limit.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine you have a chain of intermediate stations spaced every

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<v Speaker 2>fifty kilometers between Arizona and Maryland, Okay, a daisy chain

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<v Speaker 2>of nodes.

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<v Speaker 3>Station A creates an entangled pair with station B. Station

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<v Speaker 3>B simultaneously creates a separate entangled pair with station C.

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<v Speaker 2>So A is linked to B and B is linked

436
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<v Speaker 2>to C. But A and C don't know each other exactly.

437
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<v Speaker 3>But then the operator at station B performs a specific

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<v Speaker 3>joint measurement on its two local halves. This measurement destroys

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<v Speaker 3>the entanglement at station B, but in doing so, it

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<v Speaker 3>magically stitches together the quebit at station A and the

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<v Speaker 3>quibitt at station C.

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<v Speaker 2>It swaps the entanglement down the lines. Now A and

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<v Speaker 2>C are directly entangled, even though they never interacted.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you can hopscotch the entanglement. Connection across an entire continent, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't we just do that with the original starlight

446
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<v Speaker 2>photon because.

447
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<v Speaker 3>Of the no cloning theorem we discussed. To do the swap,

448
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<v Speaker 3>you have to manipulate and measure the quantum state. If

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<v Speaker 3>you try that with the unknown starlight photon, you destroy

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<v Speaker 3>the exact spatial and phase information you are trying to measure.

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<v Speaker 2>AH. But with the entangled pairs, you generate them yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>You know their state. If you lose one in the fiber,

453
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<v Speaker 2>you just generate another one until the swap succeeds precisely.

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<v Speaker 3>You can rebuild the road the entangled bridge as you go,

455
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<v Speaker 3>taking as much time as you need before the observation,

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<v Speaker 3>but you cannot rebuild the car the starlight photon once

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<v Speaker 3>it arrives.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the critical distinction. You establish the continent wide

459
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<v Speaker 2>entangled link first using repeaters, and then you use that

460
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<v Speaker 2>established link to catch and teleport the starlight. This completely

461
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<v Speaker 2>changes the operational process of an observatory lift or walk

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<v Speaker 2>through the actual data acquisitions step by step.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it. So you are sitting at the console

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<v Speaker 3>of this massive quantum ray. Step one, A photon from

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<v Speaker 3>a distant star cluster arise at Site A and Site

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<v Speaker 3>B simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 2>Step two, the spade device at each telescope captures the

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<v Speaker 2>photon d multiplexes it and identifies the spatial moli it registers,

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<v Speaker 2>say mode two time bin fourteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Step three, that specific mode information is compressed and loaded

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<v Speaker 3>onto the local quantum memory registers the silicon vacancies in

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<v Speaker 3>the diamond.

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<v Speaker 2>Step four the network phase, the system leverages the pre

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<v Speaker 2>shared entanglement bridge to perform the sequence of xbas measurements

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<v Speaker 2>on the diamond memories.

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<v Speaker 3>And finally, step five, the computers at each site generate

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<v Speaker 3>a single bit post processed outcome based on those measurements.

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<v Speaker 2>A single bit outcome, Wait a one or a zero?

479
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, just a binary one or zero.

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<v Speaker 2>He used to get these incredibly beautiful full color images

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<v Speaker 2>from the Hubble or James web. And now, after all

482
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<v Speaker 2>this quantum teleportation, we get a single bit that seems

483
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<v Speaker 2>incredibly sparse.

484
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<v Speaker 3>It is remarkably sparse. You certainly do not get an

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<v Speaker 3>image from a single phogon. But this is where the

486
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<v Speaker 3>statistical reconstruction comes in. You collect these single bit outcomes

487
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<v Speaker 3>over measurements of millions of time blocks, each containing one photon.

488
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<v Speaker 2>Event you aggregate the data.

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<v Speaker 3>You aggregate massive amounts of data. By collecting these empirical

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<v Speaker 3>probabilities over time, you build up a very precise statistical distribution.

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<v Speaker 2>And from that massive pile of ones and zeros, the

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<v Speaker 2>supercomputer can estimate the parameter we are looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the system uses those statistics to estimate theta, the

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<v Speaker 3>angular separation between the stars. And because the entire architecture

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<v Speaker 3>is mandated by the quantum fissure information limit, the precision

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<v Speaker 3>of that estimation is entirely off the charts.

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<v Speaker 2>The resolution scales directly with the baseline to aperture diameter

498
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<v Speaker 2>ratio correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you have eliminated the transport loss, you can push

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<v Speaker 3>the baseline out to thousands of kilometers. This technical consideration

501
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<v Speaker 3>allows you to estimate parameters at the absolute quantum limit.

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<v Speaker 2>It is really instructive to compare this quantum method to

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<v Speaker 2>the classical baseline we discussed earlier. In classical white light interferometry,

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<v Speaker 2>the astronomers are literally sliding physical mirrors back and forth

505
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<v Speaker 2>on tracks.

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<v Speaker 3>Right they are They physically vary the phase delay by

507
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<v Speaker 3>moving mirrors until one output port is at its absolute

508
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<v Speaker 3>brightest and the other is totally dark. It is a

509
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<v Speaker 3>mechanical scanning.

510
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<v Speaker 2>Process, and from that they extract the data. They estimate

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<v Speaker 2>the phase difference and the intensity difference to mathematically reconstruct

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<v Speaker 2>the image. But doctor Sajod offers a strong critique of

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<v Speaker 2>this classical method in the paper he does.

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<v Speaker 3>He points out that while this physical sliding mirror method

515
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<v Speaker 3>mimics phase scanning, it is fundamentally not the quantum optimal

516
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<v Speaker 3>method for quantitative imaging problems.

517
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<v Speaker 2>Because it throws away information.

518
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it wastes the crucial spatial mode data in favor

519
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<v Speaker 3>of a simple blunt brightness check. It operates well below.

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<v Speaker 2>The quantum limit, but the quantum network method gives researchers

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<v Speaker 2>a massive new advantage. The outline calls it the arbitrary

522
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<v Speaker 2>measurement basis.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a huge leap forward in flexibility. Think about

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<v Speaker 3>a physical glass telescope. Your measurement basis is rigidly fixed

525
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<v Speaker 3>by the hardware you polished a specific glass lens. You

526
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<v Speaker 3>are permanently stuck with exactly what that lens does to

527
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<v Speaker 3>the light.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to measure the light differently, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to build a new instrument exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But in this quantum network architecture, the lens is effectively software.

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<v Speaker 3>The measurement basis consists entirely of the sequence of quantum

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<v Speaker 3>logic gates you apply to the local memory after the

533
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<v Speaker 3>photon has been absorbed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, so you can change how you analyze the

535
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<v Speaker 2>light after you've already caught it.

536
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<v Speaker 3>You can perform any arbitrary measurement on the collective light

537
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<v Speaker 3>field simply by reprogramming the quantum operations applied to the

538
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<v Speaker 3>diamond memory. It allows researchers a level of flexibility that

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<v Speaker 3>is physically impossible with classical mirrors.

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<v Speaker 2>It is essentially a software defined telescope, and that allows

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<v Speaker 2>for incredible scalability too, doesn't.

542
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<v Speaker 3>It vastly improved scalability. Classical physical beam combination becomes exponentially

543
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<v Speaker 3>more complex and lossy with every new telescope you add

544
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<v Speaker 3>to the array. Trying to perfectly align light from ten

545
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<v Speaker 3>telescopes in a vacuum tube system is a nightmare.

546
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<v Speaker 2>But the quantum method just requires adding another node to

547
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<v Speaker 2>the entanglement network.

548
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<v Speaker 3>Right. It generalizes beautifully to multiple telescope systems, and the

549
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<v Speaker 3>ultimate advantage is loss mitigation. Removing the physical transmission loss

550
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<v Speaker 3>associated with bringing light to a central hub allows for

551
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<v Speaker 3>much longer baselines, which directly translates to exponentially higher resolution.

552
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, let's shift gears and talk about the history and

553
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<v Speaker 2>development of this field, because reading this, it's easy to

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<v Speaker 2>get lost in the theoretical magic, but real teams of

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<v Speaker 2>people have been working on this for years to make

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<v Speaker 2>it a reality.

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<v Speaker 3>We absolutely have to contextualize this. The NASA and Arizona

558
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<v Speaker 3>proposal did not just emerge fully formed out of nowhere.

559
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<v Speaker 3>It rests heavily on vital precursors and theoretical foundations, most

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<v Speaker 3>notably the source material sites, the groundbreaking work of Gotsman,

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<v Speaker 3>Generine and Croke. Back in twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve, the team from the University of Waterloo in the

563
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<v Speaker 2>Perimeter Institute.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they were among the very first to mathematically propose

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<v Speaker 3>the concept of interfering remote light sources using entanglement without

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<v Speaker 3>ever physically combining the beams. They laid the theoretical groundwork.

567
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<v Speaker 2>The visionaries who did the math. But doing the math

568
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<v Speaker 2>is one thing. Actually building it is another, and that

569
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<v Speaker 2>is where the Harvard University group comes in, led by

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<v Speaker 2>Professor Mikhal Lukean.

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<v Speaker 3>The Harvard group is critical here because they provided the

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<v Speaker 3>actual proof of concept demonstration in the laboratory, they successfully

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<v Speaker 3>demonstrated entanglement assisted differential.

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<v Speaker 2>Faith measurement, and the specific technology they used for that

575
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<v Speaker 2>demonstration is exactly what we've been discussing. They utilized remote

576
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<v Speaker 2>photonically heralded entanglement among atomic quantum memories using silicon vacancies

577
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<v Speaker 2>in diamond.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the exact hardware foundation cited in the current proposal.

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<v Speaker 3>The Padia and Guha paper is essentially taking that successful

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<v Speaker 3>lab bench experiment and scaling it up to an observatory level.

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<v Speaker 2>The evolution of this NASA and Arizona study also tracks

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<v Speaker 2>closely with the prior work of doctor Aquil Sadjad.

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<v Speaker 3>It does doctor Sajod had previously focused deeply on quantifying

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<v Speaker 3>the fundamental limits of resolving two distant stars, originally working

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<v Speaker 3>within the context of radio astronomy.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can see the clear progression here. The scientific

587
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<v Speaker 2>community moved from establishing the theoretical possibility with Gotzman, to

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<v Speaker 2>proving the hardware worked in a lab with the Harvard group,

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<v Speaker 2>to Sajod quantifying the mathematical limits.

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<v Speaker 3>And this current paper represents the final leap. The progression

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<v Speaker 3>from theoretical possibility directly to a com crete receiver design.

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<v Speaker 3>The team design the spady D multiplex are paired with

593
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<v Speaker 3>the memory array and successfully replace the physical beam splitter

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<v Speaker 3>with a functional entanglement based protocol.

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<v Speaker 2>So once we actually build this continent size quantumie, what

596
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<v Speaker 2>are we going to point it at? The scientific implications

597
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<v Speaker 2>are staggering, and the authors outline some very specific astrophysical

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<v Speaker 2>use cases.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the primary applications is the detailed observation of star.

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<v Speaker 2>Clusters, localizing clusters of stars right.

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<v Speaker 3>Very often in astronomy, what appears to be a single

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<v Speaker 3>bright point source through our current telescopes is actually a

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<v Speaker 3>tight knot of two, three, or four separate stars orbiting

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<v Speaker 3>each other.

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<v Speaker 2>And distinguishing those individual stars is crucial for understanding stellar

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<v Speaker 2>evolution and mass distribution.

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<v Speaker 3>This quantum technology could easily unpick those type knots. But

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<v Speaker 3>the application that truly drives the excitement in the community

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<v Speaker 3>is exoplanet detection.

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<v Speaker 2>The hunt for another Earth. The fundamental problem with finding

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<v Speaker 2>exoplanets is that stars are incredibly bright and planets are

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly dim.

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<v Speaker 3>It is often compared to trying to spot a firefly

614
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<v Speaker 3>buzzing around a massive search light from miles away. The

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<v Speaker 3>stars glare completely washes at the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>But the outline mentions that this quantum array has massive

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<v Speaker 2>implications for something called nulling interferometry.

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<v Speaker 3>Nulling interferometry is where the arbitrary measurement basis really shines.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you control the phase measurement via quantum software, you

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<v Speaker 3>can effectively program the virtual telescope to perfectly cancel out

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<v Speaker 3>the specific wavefront coming from the host star.

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<v Speaker 2>You can just turn down the starlight.

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<v Speaker 3>You digitally cancel the spotlight, which leads only the faint

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<v Speaker 3>offset signal of the firefly the exoplanet. And because of

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<v Speaker 3>the unprecedented resolution of a thousand kilometer baseline, you could

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<v Speaker 3>potentially resolve actual atmospheric features on a planet at distances

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<v Speaker 3>we currently can't even dream of touching.

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<v Speaker 2>That alone justifies the research, but the implications aren't just

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<v Speaker 2>for deep space. The source material also highlights applications closer

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<v Speaker 2>to home, specifically space domain awareness.

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<v Speaker 3>Space domain awareness is essentially the monitoring of satellites, orbital infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 3>and space debris.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is this such a challenge right now? We have

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<v Speaker 2>advanced radar systems, don't we.

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<v Speaker 3>Radar is excellent for determining the location and trajectory of

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<v Speaker 3>an object. But it is terrible for resolving fine visual

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<v Speaker 3>details at orbital distances, and optical telescopes on the ground

638
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<v Speaker 3>have to constantly battle the Earth's atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>The atmosphere acts like a boiling soup, blurring the image.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly If you want to see a tool bag that

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<v Speaker 3>drifted away from a satellite in geostationary orbit, which is

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<v Speaker 3>thirty six thousand kilometers straight up, you need a resolving

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<v Speaker 3>power that completely defies standard atmospheric bloring.

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<v Speaker 2>And the quantum array solves this.

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<v Speaker 3>It does in two ways. First, the spatial mode sorting

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<v Speaker 3>allows you to filter out atmospheric phase noise much more

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<v Speaker 3>effectively than a standard camera. Second, the massive state sized

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<v Speaker 3>baseline gives you the raw resolving power to turn a

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<v Speaker 3>single blurdy pixel into a highly detailed.

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<v Speaker 2>Grid, soe or commercial operators could actually distinguish if a

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<v Speaker 2>satellite has a deployed solar panel or if it has

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<v Speaker 2>been damaged by microdebris.

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<v Speaker 3>Or identify the specific make and model of an unknown object.

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<v Speaker 3>The technology allows for the precise classification of objects from

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<v Speaker 3>a known library based on high resolution geometric features. It

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<v Speaker 3>would bring total transparency to the space domain, but.

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<v Speaker 2>The broader impact of this technology goes far beyond just

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<v Speaker 2>building better scientific instruments. This research feels intrinsically linked to

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<v Speaker 2>the future of global communications. The outline points toward the

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<v Speaker 2>quantum Internet.

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<v Speaker 3>The connection there is fundamental think about the infrastructure required

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<v Speaker 3>to actually build this entanglement enhanced telescope array. You need

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<v Speaker 3>to distribute stable, entangled pairs across hundreds of thousands of kilometers.

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<v Speaker 2>Which requires building a robust network of quantum repeaters and

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<v Speaker 2>entanglement swapping nodes across the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly right now, conventional observatories communicate via standard fiber optic cables,

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<v Speaker 3>sending classical digital bits. The transition proposed here requires deploying

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<v Speaker 3>dedicated quantum communication links between these distant observatories.

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<v Speaker 2>And once you build a network capable of reliably transmitting

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<v Speaker 2>quibits and distributing entanglement for astronomy.

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<v Speaker 3>You've essentially built the physical backbone of the quantum Internet.

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<v Speaker 3>The exact same infrastructure used to perfectly syncredize telescopes can

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<v Speaker 3>be used to transmit unhackable quantum encrypted data, or to

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<v Speaker 3>link remote quantum computers into a single distributed mainframe.

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<v Speaker 2>So astronomy could act as the primary driver. The initial

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<v Speaker 2>anchor tenant that necessitates and funds the early quantum Internet infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a perfect synergy. It aligns entirely with the

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<v Speaker 3>broader goals of institutions like the Center for Quantum Networks.

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<v Speaker 3>The synthesis of these historically distinct fields quantum optics, quantum

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<v Speaker 3>information theory, and classical observational astronomy represents a truly comprehensive

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<v Speaker 3>solution to our most fundamental imaging limitations.

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<v Speaker 2>To summarize the massive paradigm shift we've discussed today, the

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<v Speaker 2>field of a astronomy is fundamentally moving from a classical

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<v Speaker 2>model of simply gathering light to a computational model of

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<v Speaker 2>processing quantum information.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the core takeaway The foundational achievement of the Padilla,

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<v Speaker 3>Guha and Sajad paper is theoretically enabling optical telescopes to

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<v Speaker 3>finally reach the ultimate resolution allowed by the laws of

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<v Speaker 3>quantum physics, entirely unconstrained by the physical size of the mirror.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, as the final technical outlook makes clear, the actual

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<v Speaker 2>realization of this theoretical model relies very heavily on the

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<v Speaker 2>continued rapid maturation of atomic quantum memory and quantum repeater technologies.

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<v Speaker 2>We still have to build the physical network.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a proposal that sits right on the bleeding

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<v Speaker 3>edge of what is experimentally possible today. But the successful

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<v Speaker 3>merger of these sciences offers a clear pathway to observing

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<v Speaker 3>the universe with a level of clarity that just a

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<v Speaker 3>decade ago was thought to be strictly forbidden by physics.

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<v Speaker 2>So here is the final provocative thought I want to

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<v Speaker 2>leave you with as we wrap up this deep dive.

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<v Speaker 2>We se spent four hundred years ever since Galileo, doing

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<v Speaker 2>the exact same thing, polishing glass, trying to make the

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<v Speaker 2>surface smoother, the parabolic curve more perfect. We eventually reached

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<v Speaker 2>a point where we were polishing space telescope mirrors so

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly that if you expanded them to the size of

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<v Speaker 2>the Atlantic Ocean, the biggest bump would be smaller than

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<v Speaker 2>a wave.

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<v Speaker 3>And despite all that engineering perfection, we were still hitting

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<v Speaker 3>a physical wall.

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<v Speaker 2>Right And now we're finally realizing that the glass itself

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't actually matter as much as the information hiding inside

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<v Speaker 2>the light. We are realizing that the universe has been

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<v Speaker 2>broadcasting its secrets in ultra high definition this entire time,

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<v Speaker 2>but we've been trying to watch it on a blurry,

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<v Speaker 2>black and white television set. Now, thanks to quantum information theory,

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<v Speaker 2>we are finally learning how to build the four K receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine what other signals we might find when we finally

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<v Speaker 2>turn it on.

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<v Speaker 3>We truly have no idea what we're going to see,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is exactly why we built them.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining us on this deep dive.
