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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Tony Gerdeman, here as always with Tom O'Rourke. How's

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<v Speaker 2>it going?

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<v Speaker 3>Tony, get to... First of all, I was just thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>we have so much more time before the season starts.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought, no, no, no. We have one more

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday of not football and then a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>Saturdays of football in a row, which is good. Just

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<v Speaker 3>to be clear, my position on football remains good. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just like, boy, there's a lot of stuff we got

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<v Speaker 3>to do in the 14 or give or take days

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<v Speaker 3>between now and Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>High school football has started. School is back going. There's

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<v Speaker 2>already bus shortages in central Ohio. It's here. Fall is here. Welcome, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>On the last show, previous show that we did, we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about how deep Ohio State is going to go

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<v Speaker 2>on offense in terms of each position and the bigger games.

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<v Speaker 2>That way you know what the actual true rotation is

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<v Speaker 2>and who's good enough to, who's trusted enough to play,

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<v Speaker 2>who is game ready, as Urban Meyer would say. So

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're going to give that same treatment to the

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<v Speaker 2>defensive side of the ball. Basically, who's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>out there against Texas? Who's going to be out there

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<v Speaker 2>at Iowa against USC? And really, as the season goes on,

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<v Speaker 2>the names will, I think, kind of change. But initially,

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<v Speaker 2>say the first month of the season, who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be out there regularly, Tom? And I'm asking you, defensive ends.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like, hmm. I think we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see quite a few, but I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a smaller group against Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is a really interesting group because you go

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<v Speaker 3>back over the years and for example, 2023, when they

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<v Speaker 3>were playing at Notre Dame, it was just JT Tumalo

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<v Speaker 3>and Jack Sawyer at defensive end all game long. Now

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<v Speaker 3>that's not what they would prefer to do, but if

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<v Speaker 3>they feel that the ones are way ahead of where

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<v Speaker 3>the twos are, that's what they might do. I don't,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm certainly not expecting that this year. Cause I don't think,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I think you've got Kenyatta Jackson and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think you have anyone else who you're looking at

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<v Speaker 3>as like, so head and shoulders above everyone else that

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<v Speaker 3>you're not going to play.

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<v Speaker 2>With behind them.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to say, I'm going to say four

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<v Speaker 3>people at defensive end for these, for these big games.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that number could go as high as six.

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<v Speaker 3>Cause I think, you know, if you look at the

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<v Speaker 3>whole group, Kenyatta Jackson, Bo Atkinson, Kwee Russo, Zion Grady,

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<v Speaker 3>Epi Satonale. I think there's a possibility that Kari Wilder

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<v Speaker 3>gets into that conversation at some point, but it's probably

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<v Speaker 3>not right away. And I'm certainly not expecting to see

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<v Speaker 3>him against Texas. But I think you could get up

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<v Speaker 3>to six at some point. But right now, I think

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to see three. You're going to see, for sure,

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<v Speaker 3>Kenyatta Jackson, Bo Atkins, and Kwee Russo. I'm certainly expecting

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<v Speaker 3>to see Epi Satonele and Zion Grady some as well. But,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I think that sort of four-ish range is

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<v Speaker 3>probably about right for the start of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this one is very, very interesting. Just looking

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<v Speaker 2>back last year, four defensive ends played against Texas. Caden Curry,

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<v Speaker 2>Kenyatta Jackson, Bo Atkinson, and C.J. Hicks. Zion Grady did

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<v Speaker 2>not play. Joshua Mickens, no Logan George, no Epi Satonale,

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<v Speaker 2>no Dominic Kirks. But am I ready to say that

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<v Speaker 2>Epi Satonale is not going to play against Texas? I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>Would it shock me if he doesn't? Not necessarily. Would

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<v Speaker 2>it shock me if Kyrie Wilder doesn't?

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>So, like, yes on Kenyatta Jackson. Yes on Bo Atkinson.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes on Kwee Russo. for the situational aspect. And then, yeah, like, boy,

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<v Speaker 2>if Zion Grady's going to play, why not Epi Satonale?

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<v Speaker 2>And vice versa. So I think there will be, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to say five, and I'm not going to lock

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<v Speaker 2>in on which five, but I think there will be

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<v Speaker 2>times where, hey, whether it's three snaps, one snap, or two, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know we're talking about rotational and two or three

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<v Speaker 2>snaps against Texas is rotational against everybody else. So I

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<v Speaker 2>will lock in and say five defensive ends. And if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering, like, how possible, Tom, how shocked would you

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<v Speaker 2>be if it is six? Because then you're just talking Zion, Grady,

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<v Speaker 2>Kari Wilder, and Epi Satonale all get in. It's not.

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to say no, but possible.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're setting the over-under at 5.5, I'm probably taking

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<v Speaker 3>the under there. Is it possible that you get two

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<v Speaker 3>or three of them in there, four or three snaps,

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<v Speaker 3>five snaps, something like that? Yeah, absolutely, that's possible. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you have guys in there for just a handful

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<v Speaker 3>of snaps, then that's when it becomes more likely that

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<v Speaker 3>you do. If it's, you know, there's four guys and

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<v Speaker 3>they're all getting 30 snaps, okay, that chews up a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the snaps. if you feel like, okay, you're

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<v Speaker 3>sort of just situationally shoving guys in. And we also

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how many different personnel packages are they going

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<v Speaker 3>to have because we've heard about them in a 3-3-5.

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<v Speaker 3>We've heard about them in a 4-3. We've heard about

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<v Speaker 3>them in a 4-2-5. And is Quay Roussel going to

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<v Speaker 3>be sort of like an overhang defender and he's not

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<v Speaker 3>one of the four guys? Or is he going to

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<v Speaker 3>be one of the four? There's a bunch of different

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<v Speaker 3>variables here that we're sort of trying to sort out.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think five is an absolutely reasonable number

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<v Speaker 3>for the, you know, for, for the Texas game in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of guys having at least a handful of snaps.

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<v Speaker 2>Defensive tackle. Jarquez Carter got three snaps last year against Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Moore, none. Eric Minson, Trajan Odom, none, but they

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<v Speaker 2>played four, actually five, including Jarquez Carter. When they've got

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<v Speaker 2>five veterans, is it going to shock me if Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Moore plays in this game as that fifth guy?

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I think this is another situation where, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how many defensive ends are taking defensive tackle snaps? So

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<v Speaker 2>I think last year, if they were able to play

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<v Speaker 2>five with Cade McDonald being not Cade McDonald at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think they, boy, Tom, I'm going to set

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<v Speaker 2>the over-under at four and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go over that because, you know, the four is easy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's James Smith and Edward Houston and Will Smith Jr.

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<v Speaker 3>and John Walker. So that's, that's the easy four. And I,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're going to play Jason more, at least

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<v Speaker 3>some this year, because you're going to have, you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to have times when, you know, first of all, it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be like 90 degrees and 90% humidity. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're going to want to keep those guys fresh. And,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, is it possible that you get someone like

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<v Speaker 3>a Jameer Perez who just is just different enough from

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<v Speaker 3>everyone else that, there might be a situation where it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to get him in because there's no one

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<v Speaker 3>else who's as big as he is or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Fourth and one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, fourth and one kind of situations. Yeah, absolutely possible.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think I will go over four and

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<v Speaker 3>a half and say that Jason Moore does play five,

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<v Speaker 3>10 snaps at least.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm thinking it's five defensive tackles in that game.

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<v Speaker 2>So then we move to linebackers. We've been talking all

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<v Speaker 2>along that it's going to be a solid four with

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<v Speaker 2>Peyton Pierce and Christian Allegro and Riley Pettyjohn and TJ Alford,

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<v Speaker 2>I can see, I expect to see all four of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys playing against Texas. If they don't, then, I mean, again,

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<v Speaker 2>that tells you that they have a three that they

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<v Speaker 2>really like, and then the fourth guy can mix in

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<v Speaker 2>in maybe other games. I do think we will see four,

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<v Speaker 2>and just looking really quickly, There was only three that

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<v Speaker 2>played last year, Sonny Stiles, Arvel Reese, and Peyton Pierce.

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<v Speaker 2>No Riley Pettyjohn or T.J. Alford or Garrett Stover. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think this year, four. And the real question for

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<v Speaker 2>me is, can they go beyond that? I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>they need to. I don't think they will, at least

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<v Speaker 2>on purpose, they won't. Something would have to happen before

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<v Speaker 2>they go over four, in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>That's about where I would have the line as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Cause I think, you know, we, we have heard a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of good stuff about Eli Lee this year, but

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you want to be playing five linebackers

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<v Speaker 3>when you're going to be in a four to five

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<v Speaker 3>for a good bit at a time where you're not,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you're not going to be playing three linebackers

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<v Speaker 3>at a time. So if you're at four, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're in a four to five playing four guys is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, basically two platoons. And obviously you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be in a four, three Selman. You're going to have,

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to have plenty of opportunities for those guys

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<v Speaker 3>to play. But yeah, I, I don't expect, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>last year, Riley, Petty John, TJ, Alfred not playing. That

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't surprise me. They were true freshmen in their first games.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the only true freshmen who saw on defense

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<v Speaker 3>last year in game one against Texas with Devin Sanchez.

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<v Speaker 3>But now those guys are sophomores. I think you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to see Petty John. I think you're going to see Alfred.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you're going to see Allegro. I know you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to see Peyton Pierce. So I think four is

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<v Speaker 3>a good number there. And I think you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>have three of those guys at least with 20 snaps

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<v Speaker 3>at least, you know, I think, I, right now if

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<v Speaker 3>you're you know gun to my head I'm saying Peyton

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<v Speaker 3>Pierce Christian Allegro 40 snaps 50 snaps you know whatever

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<v Speaker 3>the number is a lot of snaps for those two

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<v Speaker 3>guys 20 or so for Riley Pettyjohn and probably you

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<v Speaker 3>know five to ten for TJ Alford something like that okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about trying to figure out how to do

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<v Speaker 2>this with corners, just outside corners. I think the number is,

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<v Speaker 2>it's two or three. It's Jermaine Matthews and Devin Sanchez

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<v Speaker 2>and can dominate Kelly. Is he to that point now

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<v Speaker 2>where he is going to play? And I almost feel

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<v Speaker 2>like this depends on how well the two corners are playing.

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<v Speaker 2>If they're playing well, you don't necessarily want to mix

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<v Speaker 2>things up. But as you just reminded me, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be really hot. And now it's still going to

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<v Speaker 2>be night, but we're from Ohio. Like, I know Devin

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<v Speaker 2>Sanchez doesn't, but the rest of us. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>Dominic Kelly isn't, but the rest of us. No, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you would like to be able to get a

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<v Speaker 2>third guy in there for that. And again, if they

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<v Speaker 2>can play against Texas, if they do play against Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>I expect them to play every other game as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We have not seen a ton from Dominic Kelly since, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't seen anything since the first three practices. I've

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<v Speaker 2>never really heard much either. We know he's working with

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<v Speaker 2>the ones and twos. I don't think that continues. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think this number reaches three against Texas?

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<v Speaker 3>I think the default answer is going to be keep

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<v Speaker 3>it at two unless you need to. And the situation

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<v Speaker 3>may dictate that you need to. But everything we are

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<v Speaker 3>hearing about Devin Sanchez has been very, very positive this month. Very,

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<v Speaker 3>very positive. I think you want to keep him on

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<v Speaker 3>a proven veteran senior. He's been very, very good. I

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<v Speaker 3>think he's going to hold up pretty well. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think they're going to stay, you know, some of this

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<v Speaker 3>that Dominic Kelly is better than Jay Timmons and then

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<v Speaker 3>you end up taking Jermaine Matthews and slotting him into

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<v Speaker 3>the nickel or something like that? Possible. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>if they had their druthers, they would probably right now

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<v Speaker 2>I think you could see when they go dime, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Jermaine Matthews is the other slot guy and Dominic Kelly

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<v Speaker 2>comes in. I think that's one way we can say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>there's that. Before we get to the nickel, you could

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<v Speaker 2>also have, with this whole, all of these, the dime linebacker,

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<v Speaker 2>the dime DB linebacker, Maybe the dime, we'll say, will

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<v Speaker 2>go too deep with maybe Jermaine Matthews and maybe Simeon Caldwell,

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<v Speaker 2>the safety as that dime linebacker. Nickel, it's Jay Timmons,

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<v Speaker 2>and whether that's– I wouldn't expect– again, this is when

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<v Speaker 2>it gets all kind of wonky with the packaging. He's

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<v Speaker 2>the number one nickel. He's not rotating with anybody other

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<v Speaker 2>than when the packages change him in and out. We

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<v Speaker 2>would agree with that. Tom, safeties, what are you expecting?

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<v Speaker 2>Can they get three safeties out there and just a non-dime,

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<v Speaker 2>just typical, okay, let's rotate Jalen McClain, let's rotate Earl

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<v Speaker 2>Little out? Because I don't know that I see that

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think right now, based on what we're hearing

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<v Speaker 3>and what we've seen so far this fall, I am

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<v Speaker 3>expecting this to be Earl Little and Jalen McClain. And

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you get Terry Moore out there for a handful

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<v Speaker 3>of snaps. Maybe you get Leroy Roker out there for

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<v Speaker 3>a handful of snaps, but I think the odds are

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<v Speaker 3>that happened. That's more likely to happen in a dime situation,

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<v Speaker 3>which we're sort of, you know, we're sort of setting

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<v Speaker 3>that to the side right now, because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of possible answers in terms of how they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>configure that. And that's one of those things they were

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<v Speaker 3>trying to sort of nail down over the last few

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<v Speaker 3>days to figure out where, you know, situationally, where do

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<v Speaker 3>all the different pieces fit together? So, We may have

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<v Speaker 3>a better sense for that later on this week. But

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<v Speaker 3>right now, I would say, similar to the outside corners,

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<v Speaker 3>if it's up to them, if everyone is able to

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<v Speaker 3>hold up physically in terms of the amount of snaps

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<v Speaker 3>and the weather and everything else, I think they would

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<v Speaker 3>prefer to have just those two safeties out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I would agree. Do you guys agree, if you're watching?

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<v Speaker 2>Have we missed anybody? Do you think they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>go deeper on defense than we are talking about? Go

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and throw your comments in. in there and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>take a look at those. Feedback is always welcome. Even

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<v Speaker 2>the negative feedback, Tom, I've seen a couple. And does

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<v Speaker 2>it hurt? Of course. Do I let it bother me?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course. But no. As long as you're watching and subscribing,

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<v Speaker 2>I almost don't care. But, you know, feedback is always welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Five-star rating review on the audio side, always welcome. And

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<v Speaker 2>the most welcome, Tom, come join us over at BuckeyeInsiders.com.

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<v Speaker 1>Love, this time, can what I feel be real?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, she threw away the motel key. I wish it

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<v Speaker 3>never meant nothing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Say you will, now say you will. Oh, yeah. Say

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<v Speaker 1>you will, now say you will. If you tell me

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<v Speaker 1>that Des Moines's alright, we could steal a car and

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<v Speaker 1>leave tonight.