Speaker 1: I don't have to remind you all at the moment
in which we currently live is one that prioritizes the
inverse of whatever makes men strong, healthy, and capable. The
quality of our food continues to decline. Everything around us
contains plastic and the virtues of beauty and strength are
under constant attack by the spiteful mutants forced upon us
by the culture. To sustain ourselves, we have to take
physical action that cultivates and revitalizes our spirit. We must
return to being builders of culture instead of consumers of
a cheap synthetic airsats. Axios Fitness Coaching offers a pathway
to the physical discipline that is a necessary component of
that action. Axios Fitness Coaching is a premium resource for
holistic strength and conditioning services. Axios offers a standalone training
program as well as individual coaching options to meet your
specific fitness goals. Axios is best known for the Training Club,
an exclusive community that prioritizes accountability, technique, diet, and nutrition
everything you could need to take action against the decay
of modernity. By joining the Club, you gain access to
over twenty different programs that can be personally tailored to
your strength levels. Available equipment and injury history. After taking
a quick intake survey, you can see if you are
a good candidate for the Training Club or any of
the other services offered by Axios. It is long past
due that we take control of our health back from
the freaks and degenerates that call weakness strength. Without action,
there is only the quay.
Speaker 2: All right, boy, oh boy, Curtis really does have the
gift of the gab. A man knows how to make
an ad for sure, so of course Pointing Express Radio
is brought to you by our friends over at Axios
Remote Fitness and Coaching. Check out the link in the description.
Get on over, get yourselves in fitting shape, Get ready
for the new year, turn over a new leaf, get jacked.
Be part of the crew. We will be judging people
for physique at next year's event. Also special announcements our
friends over at WBS Apparel. They have approximately fifteen Pony
Express Radio shirts left and they are thirty percent off
for the next thirty hours. Thirty percent off for thirty hours,
so get your hands on them right now while supplies last.
Be part of the crew. They are limited edition Pony
Express Radio t shirts. You do not want to miss
out on this one, but we are back once again
for another episode of Pony Express Radio. I'm joined tonight
by mister Pequinonezho's making his return. How are you, Pete?
Speaker 3: Well? Well, good to be back, all.
Speaker 2: Right, excellent, and we have a returning first time in
a long time. It is Stephen Carson Ratlib. How are you, sir?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not on Pony Express Radio as much as
I'd like. In fact, I just got my T shirt
this week, my Pony Express Radio t shirt.
Speaker 5: Do they have any left? Ront Talk?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got them a fifteen eight.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Please check out white Boy Summer Perrel WBS Apparel and
let's make sure they don't have any left.
Speaker 5: It's a great T shirt.
Speaker 4: And anyway, I usually I'm doing my show on Thursdays,
and that's why I'm not usually participating in this, but
taking a little break as I readgear my show.
Speaker 5: So glad, really glad to be on.
Speaker 2: Indeed, we're always happy to have you. It was a
pleasure to talk with you. And we've got our guest tonight.
Send me a gog. How are you, sir?
Speaker 6: I am well and very happy to be joining you
gentlemen as always, and does w WBS Apparel have any
of its have any of its Rhodesian shorts left?
Speaker 2: I think they do.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that I had that really.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, they have like three different designs of
the shorts. Yeah skip leg day.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: They got them in really cool colors too. There's like
a there's a camo one, there's there's like an autumn color,
and then my personal favorite is the Miami Vice colors.
So yeah, I get your guys yourselves a pair of
Miami Vice Rhodesian shorts. Alrighty, let's get right to it, Fellas. First,
we're gonna have to talk about some some more stories
that we were mentioning last week, but more details have
come out. So officially now the Asad regime has fallen
in Syria. So Bashar al Sad, renowned optometrist, has escaped
to Russia with this family. Here's a video you're brought
to us by Russians with attitude, showing the Syrian army
evacuating in There are thousands and apparently this is a
video of Russians and I quote translated as basically calling
him a bunch of f slurs for retreating and routing.
But Oliver you've been following the story very closely. Why
don't you give us an update as to what's going
on with the whole serious situation. What are some of
the most important parts that are important for us as Americans,
some things that we should be watching.
Speaker 6: I should be clear that I have not followed up
on it in the last twenty four hours, but as
of twenty four hours ago, I was following it pretty closely.
I did not have chance to chance to track it today.
So there may have been some things that have happened
in the immediate past that have slipped through the cracks
with me. But the most important thing to understand is
that the West has well, the West, with its closest
Middle Eastern ally, has wanted to bring down Syria for
quite some time. The quote unquote Arab spring that kicked
off more than twenty years ago. It wasn't immediately in Syria,
but Syria was one of the first targets. You also
it was Algeria and that region. There were issues with
Libya and the rest, but one of the primary targets,
certainly one of the most desired targets for the Israelis
and for the Turks and the United States. Was to
see the Asad government fall in Syria. There are a
number of geostrategic reasons for that, a primary one being
that it provided an overland logistical corridor for Iran to
supply Hezbolah in Lebanon, but there are other reasons, likely
having to do with energy and pipelines. Concern on the
part of the Turks to be sure that energy supplies
that passed through to Europe that they had some role
to play in that. Russian concerns with making sure that
alternate routes for Europe to get energy didn't get established
because of their desire to maintain that strategic leverage over Europe.
Israel's concerns as I said, about the supplying of Hesbelah,
but also their desire presumably for greater territorial expansion, the
whole idea of a greater Israel. They're concerns about the
Golden Heights and high ground there. So there's a lot
going into it. But as most of our listeners will
know or should know, I'm sure all of you guys do,
that basically got shut down by Russian intervention. But all
the Russians were able to do, and the Iranians and
has Balan some other people that came in to fight
on behalf of Assad. At the time, all that they
were really able to do was freeze this situation in place,
with Syria having pretty much been partitioned and carved up
horribly and weakened and put into a very very poor
economic situation, and so that situation has has has held
up until recently with the United States militia forces called
the SDF, the Syrian Democratic Forces in the north east
of Syria, US backed Kurdish militias and other groups there.
And we should all be aware that the Kurds are
primarily like Maoist Marxist atheists, trying to set up their
own region there with the YPG, which is sort of
a different face of the PKK that has given Turkey
trouble for so long. Likewise, there was an area that
got absorbed and reshaped by the Turks fairly early on,
near the province there jutting southern sort of salient of
the province of Hatai, the former seljuk of a Sanjak
of Alexandretta. The Turks moved across the border from there
and took places like Eprin, and they exercised the facto
control over the industrial the Syrian industrial center of Aleppo.
Many of the so called rebels and various kinds of
jihadi forces hold up in it I live after they
got pushed there by the Hesbalah and Iranian and Russian intervention.
And the Turks also moved south in a different section
a little bit closer to Manbij and seized in the
area of Syria with their own armed forces directly rather
than through proxies, in order to establish what they're calling
a buffer zone. And in addition to that, you of
course have a long held area that the Israeli seized
a long time ago near the gold On Heights or
in the gol On Heights, and then there was there
are American forces up in the area that's controlled by
the Syrian Democratic forces, the Kurdish groups that the US backs,
as well as down near the border with Jordan in
a place called Altnav. So I guess the first thing
is to recognize that the various the coalition of Western
powers has been trying to take a sod down for
quite some time. It's well over a decade now. Intervention
on the part of the Russians and their allies, the
Iranians and the rest managed to freeze it for a time,
but it has been a horrible mess. And apparently the
Syrian elites have been subverted, had been subverted to some extent,
certainly military command and the military itself. And so, you know,
a couple of weeks ago we had an offensive come
pouring out of Idlib in the direction of Aleppo, and
if any of the various reports are coming out are
to be trusted, a certain number of the troops that
were supposed to be defending against this to protect Syria
went over to the enemy side and joined them. A
proportion of them, probably a more significant proportion, dropped their weapons,
stripped out of their uniforms and just tried to get
the hell out of dodge. Are said to have been
financial incentives offered for this. You know, you ad soldiers
who are getting paid something like seven dollars a month,
and if the reports are to be trusted, they were
offered something like four hundred dollars to throw down their
weapons and move along. Apparently a lot of the Syrian
military equipment was seized and from there Aleppo fell and
then Hama, and the idea was that the troops were
going to back up and defend themselves in the area
of Humps, which is strategically important because it connects the
coastal enclave of of Latakia, which hosts the Russian naval base,
refueling station and the Russian air base there with Damascus
and some of the other areas of Syria. But as
it happened, that didn't hold and the Syrian forces collapsed
very very quickly, so much so that it's not even
really accurate to call it a lightning offensive. It was
basically a lightning retreat. There was a resistance to the
movement of these rebel forces in the beginning, with Russians
carrying out sorties to bomb them from the air and
apparently fairly effective ones. But the Syrian forces on the
ground just did not hold up, and Assad is said
to have departed for Russia and has been granted some
sort of asylum or refuge there. This has been confirmed
by the Russian authorities, and at present the mess of
Syria looks like it's going to get a whole lot messier.
One of the ways that some of the people who
followed this more closely than I do describe it as
not being the end of the Syrian problem, but the
beginning of a whole new phase. Effectively, the Iranians have
been cut off in terms of overland routes from Hesbola.
Israel has moved into the southern parts of Syria, in
particular flanking the Lebanese border, moving north and thereby beginning
to enclose or to surround more effectively the Hesbelat forces
in the south of Lebanon. This of course is following
on the heels as everyone knows of major Israeli efforts
to take ground there, which weren't successful. But there were
a number of successful Israeli attacks on the leadership of Hesbola,
the stuff with the pagers and with the heavy bombing
of Beirut that killed the leader of Hesbola as well
as many of their you know, the their upper levels
of their hierarchy. So it's a terrible mess. Last I looked,
there was fighting going on between the Turkish backed forces
in the northeast. This includes like Hayataria Sham as well
as sna Assyrian National Army as they call it there
in the northeast excuse me, there in the northwest, whereas
the Kurds are in the northeast, and the Turkish backed
forces have been moving eastward approaching the Euphrates River, and
I believe they did push the Kurdish primarily Kurdish militia
forces back east of the Euphrates River and up in
that northeastern area you've got the lion's share of Syrian
energy resources as well as the better part of their farmland,
which the US and those Kurdish forces retain control of.
So it looks like we're going to all have to
sit back and fetch some popcorn to watch this tragedy
unfold through its next phase with the different forces in
this region coming into conflict in terms of, you know,
each of their respective visions for what's supposed to happen
in the area. Now, there's quite a bit more I
could go into in terms of possibilities that can't be confirmed,
but I think that's the general picture. If I missed anything,
red Hawk, Pete Stephen that throw it in.
Speaker 4: Well, I kind of going big picture here, Oliver, if
you don't mind, But this feels like there's a certain pattern,
which is that, you know, the globalist American empire knocks
out bathist or secular rulers. I think Saddam Hussein would
fit in this category and maybe I'm sorry Kadafi right,
And in their place we usually get some kind of
like radical brand of Islamic rule. And I'm probably forgetting
other examples just to.
Speaker 5: Make it simple. Why why does Israel slash US empire?
I repeat myself? Uh want that? Like?
Speaker 4: Why better to deal with Nazi Islamic terrorist types than
secular bathhist rulers or whatever.
Speaker 6: Well, in general, Bathhism is a form of nationalism. It's uh,
it's basically Pete probably knows you could more about somebody
like like Thomas knows quite a bit more about this.
But Baphism is a movement that appeared on the heels
of of Ataturk stuff had come up. Pusha's a massive
success in establishing Turkey as something like a military guaranteed republic,
shifting it with a with a great deal of you know,
tricks up its sleeve in terms of framing what had
always been an imperial sort of heterogeneous population as being Turks. Right,
in imposing a sort of nationalist identity on the former
Ottoman Empire, it became necessary to kind of, you know,
smear all kinds of groups together Circassians, Turkmen, people of
European descent, Kurds as well in Turkey. But nevertheless, Auto
Turk had a great deal of success with it, and
this idea of a republic built on a sort of
nationalist framework and guaranteed by the military. In fact, it
was so successful that you saw other players in the
region take it up. So you had a Nasser later
in Egypt, who of course was causing all sorts of
problems for Israel. You had Saddam Hussein, had a Sad
group did it on this basis, So they want nationalism gone. Also,
one of the major things that they do in order
to split up countries is to leverage minority populations or
i should say exploit minority populations against the majority or
vice versa.
Speaker 3: You know, wherever that sounds familiar, That sounds like a
playbook they've been using for a long time.
Speaker 6: Yes, and with the Kurds in particular, you have to
remember that with the Psychspico agreement and later sort of
arrangements made by the British and the French and others,
that you have to remember that that northeastern corner of
Syria that you can see in the top left quadrant
of the map there on the map that's in the
top left quadrant, but it's the top right quadrant in
the Syria map. That's just one slice of the pie,
so to speak, of the stateless group of tribes that
we call Kurds. That there's another slice that overlaps with
a significant portion of Turkish territory, a significant portion of
Iranian territory, and a significant portion of Iraqi territory. So
the way that the map of nations were somewhat arbitrarily
drawn in the region following World War One and planned
during and before World War One, the Kurds were basically
split up across these various states, which means that they're
kind of like a lever that can be pulled by
the West to destabilize any one of these countries in
which they're a significant portion of the population.
Speaker 5: I never thought of the Kurds as convenient, but I
get it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, though they're certainly not convenient for the Iraqis,
the Syrians, the Turks of the ira Yeah.
Speaker 4: Convenient from the point of view of the US Empire, Yeah, yeah, yes.
Speaker 6: And so there's that there's also quite a bit going
on with energy, because you have the the Gulf states,
like the Emirates and the rest Katas, these countries want
to get their energy out and they're concerned because they've
taken to a considerable extent, particularly places like Kattash. They've
set themselves up as being aligned with the US more
so than with Iran. And of course Iran has its
own energy that it wants to ship out. And if
you look at a map of the Persian Gulf, you
will see that they're at the straits at the mouth
of the Persian Gulf going out into the wider waters.
Iran can exercise influence there. So if something went down
with Iran the energy income, which is, you know, a
primary source of revenue for the Emirates and the rest,
if that gets shut down, they're screwed. So they want
to be able to pipe their energy out to the
west in some way that will not be subject to
Iranian interdiction or that will you know, or in some
fashion that won't get screwed up if the Western Powers
or Israel go to war with Iran. And in order
to do that, they're gonna have to go westward. And
Turkey has very rough country. Turkey also has a pipeline
already just north of the northern Syrian border, and it's
been subject to many sort of terroristic sabotage attacks over
the years. So Kotar is looking for a way to
go westward, and basically they want to get out to
the Mediterranean or you know, or to find some other route.
And for some time it looked like they might be
able to cut some deal and go through Syria. And
that's a thing that the West more broadly might not want.
Turkey certainly has it in its interest to make sure
as many pipelines as possible flow through Turkish territory, you know,
like ones coming from a Zerabaijan, some of the ones
that might still be carrying Russian gas, they get up
into places like Bulgaria, Moldova and the rest. So it's
there's a there's an energy war. So you have to
understand that over the last decade or so, it has
become apparent that there are very very significant gas and
oil resources in the eastern Mediterranean Sea. And so if
you look at this little map of Syria, and remember
this is pretty much the only major territory in the
region that's aligned with Russia, you see how the map
of Turkey shows that little peninsula, so to speak, of
territory jutting southward along the coast. That's the province of Hatai.
And then you see Lebanon there, which has created all
kinds of problems for Israel. Israel has likewise created all
kinds of problems from Lebanon. So from Israel to the
southern tip of the province of Hattai. There you have
this whole section of Levantine coastline, and it has corresponding
offshore claims to energy in that region. Now, if you
were to look at a map of eastern Mediterranean gas
and oil reserves, you'll see there a whole bunch of them,
and that Israel and Egypt have begun to exploit them.
And there were plans prior to Biden coming into office
for Israel and Egypt to run a pipeline over to
Greece and then to Italy to run energy into the
European Union. But Biden came into office and immediately shut
that down because it would seem, you know, judging from
things like his son's involvement with Barisma, judging from things
about the enormous energy resources in the Black Sea. Apparently
the idea was that the Brussels cadre, you know, allied
with people like you know, allied with the sorts of
people that you would call it, you know, a Trudeau
or a Clinton or an Obama. This whole crew wanted
to put Europe on a more stable footing in terms
of energy, and apparently they settled upon doing that with Ukraine.
No course, they'd also get all sorts of mineral deposits
and coke and coal and industrial production in the Dombas,
but that seemed to have been the decision. Now what's
happening is it looks like that might not turn out
the way that Black Rock and Brussels and the City
of London and the gay so to speak, had won it,
which means they're going to have to find other ways
to bring energy in. And net Nahu had been doing
quite a bit to have Israel involved in a major
energy play. They've been blocked by the Turks in some
respects with things having to do with Cyprus. But I
guess what I'm getting at here. I don't want to
wine too far down this rabbit hole, but the point
is that you're about to see Eastern Mediterranean energy resources
become important again, even though they were temporarily shut down
by Biden in terms of answering the sucking energy needs
of Europe, It's likewise probably going to be a situation
where Trump brings everything back online. Drill baby, drill, baby, drill.
So they don't want a competitor like Russia who is
going to be directly affected by all of this in Syria,
certainly not along that coastal strip.
Speaker 3: Well, they're going to I mean, Thomas made this point.
I just released an episode a couple hours where we
talked about this. Russia will go to war to keep
those ports sports. They consider those ports to be strategic,
and they consider them to be absolutely essential. They'll go
to war to keep those ports, and that seems to
be their stance right now.
Speaker 6: And they did, in fact go to war to keep
those ports because, as you just to your point, they
intervened in Syria to protect those relationships and those ports
because otherwise they're pushed out of this entire game. They're
also involved in Libya, and I don't want to spread
this too far afield, but you've got two factions, so
to speak, two coalitions in Libya that are going back
and forth, and that's all frozen at the moment. But
all of that that Turkey signed to deal with Libya
some years back, with one of those governments claiming to
have rights to these Eastern Mediterranean resources. There's quite quite
a bit going on with energy here. Now I'm not,
for my part, sure that Russia will stay and attempt
to keep those I think, all things being equal, they
want to and they love to have them, and it
will be a significant blow to them if they lose them.
But there, excuse me, there is also the issue of Sudan.
Russia was trying to put a naval base in in
Sudan and then it all broke up into civil war
in Sudan. And you've got the stuff going on in
the Sahel as well. So all these things are related.
It's tied to energy. Russia would like to keep those bases.
If they can't, uh, the one that they made agreements
with one of the Sudanese one of the competing Sudanese
governments to set up will be much more important because
they're trying to build their relationships in Africa. So I'm
agreeing with Thomas. This is and you this is an
important area Russia would like to keep it. I just
I don't know at this point if they can. It
does seem likely that if the so called rebels and
Hts and Julania and the rest, if they're not total fools,
it's in their interest to keep the Russians there, so
they have other power players to balance against the ones
who are going to be pressuring them. So we'll see
how canny they are as opposed to how stupid. But
you really have to look at that leventee coast there
between the southern tip of Turkey at Hattai and Israel
in the south as being a problem in terms of
long term planning for how everything's going to fall out
or develop in terms of the East Mediterranean energy, not
least because if Israel can make this happen, you're going
to have Israel with more territory, with its enemies pushback further,
and it's going to have a regular stream of income
as an energy producing country, not just answering its own
energy needs, which is a significant strategic issue right because if,
as we all know, if Turkey had cut off the
energy going to Israel at any point over the last
few years, it could have really worsened the Israeli economic situation.
So if Israel gets on the secure footing in terms
of producing its own energy offshore, that's a huge win
for net yahoo for Israel as well. But if they
can also generate a large amount of income from exporting
some proportion of that energy. And remember, if Israel is
in that region doing it, they're slowly going to set
themselves up in a position of more importance and a
more centralized control in running the operations of neighboring countries
like Egypt and Lebanon who have their own offshore resources.
It will basically be like, Hey, you want to see
it at the table. You want to play this game,
You're going to have to go through Israel, because we've
got the relationships to you send it over to Europe,
we have the meaningful veto. So all of these things
are connected. I'm sorry that I go so far afield
with it, but as soon as you start to scratch
at any one aspect of it, it connects to the
other elements of the great game.
Speaker 3: Well, let's jump off energy for a second and let's
talk about you know what most people would want to
talk about ERTs Israel. They're doing this because they want
the quote unquote biblical land. They're already They're in southern
Syria right now. They post up maps of what they
want all the time. But maybe you can speak to
this a little bit, Oliver, since you know Turkey better
than any of us. Erdiwan goes on TV with maps
all the time too, and he talks about taking parts
of Iran, taking the taking Kurdish Iraq he wants to.
He talks about reinstating the Ottoman Empire. And it seems
just as crazy as when Israel talks about how they're
going to take Iraq. They're going to take to They're
going to take all this, are going to take Egypt.
But you have these are obviously the two power players
in this is Russia obviously took some kind of deal
to stand down. Iran took some kind of a deal
to stand down. Turkey is Turkey is looking to take
is taking parts of northern Syria. So are we seeing
are we entering into a new age of well, let's
this is what we were promised, This is what we
were promised by Mohammad, this is what we were promised
by Yahweh. We're going to just start taking land?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, clearly we have entered that phase because
they're all taking land, no doubt about that. For me,
Erdawan is a bit of a cipher. I was dismissive
of him back in the day as being just sort
of a basic tinpot dictator, and I have been forced
to revise that, and I do so here publicly because
he has been very effective, very capable in resisting attempts
to unseat him, and he is skillfully played the West
against powers further east. But I guess I should throw
one more peace in here before we jump to the
specific question you were asking Pete, and that is that
there are three major players here. Historically you have Anatolia
and the Hittites going way way back. You have the Persians,
whether it's a Kamenids or Sassinids, right, and then you
have Egypt. Once upon a time, those were the three
great historical powers. I mean, for a time you had
the Assyrians and the rest very early on Babylon in
the rest, but they ultimately ended up that whole region
ends up falling under the influence by turns or being
partitioned by turns between these three powers Egypt or you know,
various various forms of control in Egypt over the years Anatolia,
the Ottoman Empire, the Hittites, Turkey, whatever, Iran, you know,
whether it's whether it's Parthians or or or Assassinids or
Achamanids and the rest. So they're really three major powers here.
Egypt less so these days, and Israel is this new one.
But Israel is reliant upon you know, it's trade and
its energy support and on money from abroad. So it
may become a very different picture here if Israel gets
itself on a solid footing with energy and so that
concerns a Turkey because and it concerns Iran, and to
a considerable extent, it concerns Egypt. But they have so
many problems in Egypt in terms of money and feeding
their population and their government remaining stable that that they're
not as much of a power anymore, that they're not
entirely insignificant. So Turkey, coming back to Erdwan, he's very
difficult to read. The first thing everybody needs to understand
is that Turkey has been an ally of Israel's in
one form or another, explicitly or implicitly since the days
of Ataturk. So Turkey, you know, they do things like
the what was that business with the Mavi Marmara, right,
the Blue Marmara. The business of Turkish uh civilian flotilla's
going south in order to break the siege, so to speak,
by Sea of Gaza. You know, he's done all sorts
of things that create a lot of buzz and that
make it seem like that he's ready to wolf wolf
wolf against Israel, but he almost never does. So However,
he's getting old and he's not going to be in
power forever. I don't know who's going to replace him,
and I don't know whether or not he might have
some trick of his sleeve to restore this sort of
Ottoman project in the region that he'll that he'll he'll
he'll pull out of his sleeve at the last Minute's
simply because what are you going to do to him
when he's an elder statesman who's not going to be
around much longer. I expect he will be concerned with
cementing some sort of legacy as a great figure as
a Turkish leader, but for the time being, I can't
read it. I was very interested to see that the
Turkish back forces went after the Kurds pretty quickly, So yeah,
I don't know what he's going to do. He certainly
has a population that he has to throw red meat
to at intervals talking about this situation with the Palestinians.
But everything that he's done so far from you know,
ensuring that energy continues to flow to Israel, you know,
just the simple act of having taken Syria as he
has now at this time, has taken a gaza out
of everyone's discussion and consideration at this point. So I
mean he's in terms of what he's done. You know,
the purpose of a system is what it does. Applies
here he's helped Israel. Now the Israelis have to be
concerned about this because they're going to share a border now,
they don't have a buffer really between them and Sunni
Jahadist forces as they once did. It's all right up
on them, and so you know, it could be it
could be a bad situation for them. Another concern is
with Iran. You know a number of these iranishiet Of course, Iraq,
as you will all know, was formerly controlled by a
Sunni minority, Thests, but they have a Shiite majority and
Iraq is more or less closely allied with Iran now.
And there are Kurdish groups who aren't YKK, excuse me,
PKK and YPG that are more aligned with the Iranians,
And so there is the possibility of people being able
to come back in and re enter this domain from
the east. The largest group of Syrian soldiers that escaped
from Syria across the border, I believe a division of them,
complete with equipment, into Iraq. And you know, if you
look back at the history of things like the Allies
fights with Ramel in North Africa, you know that in
these vast sort of open spaces. Of course this is
the levant, not North Africa. But if you look at
that history, you'll see that they just thundered across the
entire northern coast North Africa in one direction and then
would get turned around and push back in the other direction,
only to come back again. So ground can be crossed
here fairly quickly. Though the situation has changed quite a
bit with ISR capabilities and the ability to bomb these
forces as they move. But I don't think the book
is closed on this. I think that the Israelis, yes,
are are going for a greater Israel. Thus far, Erdworm
has basically assisted them, explicitly or implicitly by accident or
by design thus far pretty consistently, but that might change.
You also have a very worked up Muslim population in Turkey.
They're also concerned about sending Syrian refugees back into Syria,
and I don't see how they're going to be able
to do that anytime in the near future. There's also
the possibility that there could be major further destabilization inside
Turkey depending on how aggressive they get with going after
the Kurds, because YPG GPKK has a long history of
conducting major terrorist attacks inside Turkey. So it's a mess
and I cannot clearly see what will happen next.
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring in a very strange analogy on
this one that this map has reminded me of, and
interesting comparisons for today. If anyone went back and played
the original Rome Total War, the hardest faction to play
in that game was always the Seleucid Empire because in
the early game, the other factions around you, the Egyptians,
the Pontic States, the Armenians, Parthians, they all want to expand,
and it's way too costly for you to start buying
a ship's early game to expand overseas. So if you're
going to expand. You're going to expand into Syria, into
the Seleucid Empire because everyone wants a piece of it.
It's surrounded by all sides. It seems like we have
another repeat of that today where everyone wants a piece
of Syria. Well, that's interesting for me in this case
is the time frame of this December in twenty twenty four,
shortly before the Trump administration is coming into office. And
no doubt this is another fire for the Trump administration
to put out when it comes in pretty soon, and
obviously they've wanted to take care of Asad for quite
some time. My question here is, gentlemen, is it seems
like if they could have just done this whenever they
wanted to, which is what it kind of seems like
to me. I mean, the time frame has to be questioned,
you know, because I mean, this took like a week
for Assad to fall, and they've been trying to get
rid of him for a decade at this point, since
Obama's days, if not earlier. So the time frame is
what's interesting to me.
Speaker 3: Well, it's obvious that it was a grand conspiracy and
that the SAA stood down very had very little Uh,
there's very little resistance. There's no way that rebel groups.
If rebel groups could have taken if they taken the country,
they would have done it long ago. This was some
behind the scenes stuff, real, you know, the dirt bag
shit that happened where they just basically everyone decided to
give a sad up, you know. And now he gets
to go to Russia and oh I can announce here
he's gonna be on my podcast promoting his new podcast
next week. I'm just kidding. Yeah, obviously he was just
giving up. He was he was a chess piece that
they could take off the board whenever they wanted, and
it was his time to go off the board. And
that's it. So but I did want to a lot
of people have been asking about, you know, the Christian
communities in Syria and our our buddy Hunger, the die
Merchant has you know, he has people all over the
place over there. So I just wanted to read a
very quick thread that he had, if that's okay, about
what's going on in Syria with the Christians. He said,
just a quick update some of the Christians in Syria,
of some of the Christians Asyria from my personal sources,
one things are for the most part. It's hence calm.
There's plenty of fear going around, but the worst has
not come to pass, and possibly the situation will improve.
He said. In almost every Christian village, particularly in the Wadi,
which is the value of the Christians, there's a Muslim
government supervisor to keep tabs on people and resolve any
disputes to Village priests are cooperating with the authorities. The
towns are under strict curfew. Freedom of movement is limited,
but this may be temporary given the current security situation.
New government is aggressively going after collaborators of the Asad
regime and these Christian areas, and many are either in
hiding or have fled to Lebanon. There is currently a
debate happening whether Christmas and the new government on whether
Syrian Christians will be allowed to publicly celebrate Christmas. Initially
the answer was yes, but that same day churches outside
of Hamah were into ransacked by Muslim gangs. He says,
the situation is still fluid. Many people are rightly fearful
for the future. The information only applies to my sources
in the Waybi and Hamah region. I don't know how
bad the situation is for Christians in Damascus or Aleppo,
but I ask you to continue to pray for them.
So that's a for people who are wondering about the
Christian population that comes from our buddy Hunger.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and there is a stream he did with a
hit Man covering some of the historical background for this.
I watched it the other day. It's quite good. You
should have a look. There's also a stream on the
historical situation of the Christians in the Middle East that
I did with Apostolic Majesty, and then he and I
just did a follow up on that in the last
couple of days, discussing background on this and the likely
situation for them. I drone on about the geopolitics a
bit as well, but am very capably covers the historical aspects.
You can see that on Apostolic Majesty's channel. The one
thing I'd point out is that we should all be
looking at Lebanon, because if I were among the Israeli
strategic planners, I would immediately be looking to carry my
momentum forward to resolve the situation in Lebanon, not least
because there are disputed areas of offshore energy resources between
Israel and Lebanon. Also to Pete's point about it very
likely having been something behind the scenes, I tend to
agree with Pete on this completely, Like, if they were
able to take it, why didn't they do it? Why
did they wait till now? And so the question is
what sort of deal was cut behind the scenes. One possibility,
and these are not necessarily mutually exclusive, or these possibilities
don't necessarily exclude each other, one is that Russia and
Iran said, screw this, it's gonna distract us at a
time when we don't need to be distracted. So let's
just back out and let Israel and Turkey and the
West own this horrible mess. Because it's not like it
just became this horrible mess, as I said, It's been
frozen in this fashion as a horrible mess for more
than a decade, or for at least a decade. Another
possibility is that, you know, there's the plans that have
been discussed quite for quite some time now of Iran
and Russia signing mutual defense treaties formally rather than just
sort of helping out Subrosa similar to what was just
signed between North Korea and Russia. And it may well be.
I've speculated anyway that for Russia to sign that kind
of a treaty with Iran publicly while Iran is still
able to supply of forces in Lebanon against Israel is
just a recipe for disaster. You know, the international Zionist
supporters in the United States could create all sorts of
problems and Russia could see itself drawn into a mess
that it couldn't get out of. Whereas if Iran has
effectively been cut off physically from supplying Hezbollah, then it
might be a situation where they could then turn around
and bring Iran in under their nuclear umbrella with a
defense treaty, and that would remove any need for Iran
to develop its own nuclear weapons. That's just speculation. I'm
not saying it's going to happen, but those sort of
two possibilities are ones that could overlap.
Speaker 3: They're not.
Speaker 6: Mutually exclusive, and it could explain what we're seeing happen here.
I've often wondered, you know, there was a call that
many people have discussed between Erdowan and Putin that happened
just prior to this whole movement of the quote unquote
rebel forces out of Idlib, And I've thought to myself,
was that necessarily something like Erdwan calling up Putin and saying, hey,
I'm sorry, man, but I have to do this. I've
got Kurdish problems. I'm going in. It could have just
as easily. It's just speculation. I'm not saying it's the case,
but I've seen nothing to rule out the possibility that
Putin said, hey, Erdwan, if you want to do it,
this is your chance, because we've decided to back out.
And that fits the model here as effectively as any
of the others, given the information that I'm aware of.
So yes, I do think something was being planned behind
the scenes, and it may be well. As I put
it in one of my tweets, you know, if you
create a vacuum, well, it will suck in both respects.
It will both pull you in and it will suck
for you if you're the ones now who have to
police and maintain this and deal with the problems that
could eventuate. But we just have to see what comes next.
Speaker 4: We may literally never know what backroom deals.
Speaker 2: Right many such cases. Right Well, this is a very
very expansive discussion on this topic. As we move on
to our next topic discussing Tucker Carlson's recent discussion with
Sergey Laborov. The final thing I'll say about this one
is old AA needs to update his Dictator top Trump's
card for Bashar al Assad. His longevity card has officially
come home to roost now, so he needs to do
a little update on that. But yeah, So this actually
came out just before our stream last week, so we
didn't have chance to talk about it. We made a
brief allusions to it, but I figured we'd actually have
a dedicated segment to talking about Tucker Carlson's interview with
Sergei Lavarov. Now I sat down and watched this whole thing.
I know Oliver did too, Pete, I think he did, maybe, Yeah, yeah,
So I suppose we could just go through and pick
out some of the important parts. I think right at
the start, the thing that stuck out to me the
most right away was this is something I've been bringing
up a couple of times on previous streams, the complete
irresponsibility of American politicians, most notably Lindsey Graham, who Lavrov
actually mentions by name during this interview with Carlson about
how Lindsey Graham just goes on unhinged rants about like
completely ethnically cleansing Russians out of certain sections of Ukraine
on Fox News, and of course like the Russians are
reacting to that as a direct threat, which it is.
You know, like Americans politicians can't just go on TV
and say outlandish things about foreign powers and foreign wars
and not expect, you know, other countries to be like, oh,
he was just kidding, bro. You know, it's just so
unbelievably irresponsible. So that was one of the major things
that stuck out to me. I don't know, let's go
around the horn here. What else really stuck out to
you guys? I got a couple of other points, but
I don't know, Oliver, you guys want to throw out
some of your takes on this one.
Speaker 3: Bad aller?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, it's just it's a diplomatic mess. Lavrov,
as we all know, is very much an elder statesman
in Russia, and you can expect that he's going to
come in and lay down the Russian positions as he did.
One of the things that was very notable about this
discussion that he had to turn this heater off. It's
blowing in the background. Sorry. One of the very notable
things about how he approached things was he never gave
what was his opinion. Whenever a question was asked about
what the Russian position was, he very circumspectully and consistently
would answer by saying, Putin has already addressed this in
his discussion at Blah blah blah. During such and such
he said, X, Y and Z so, Lavrov is basically
coming in with the standard points that have already been
made by the Russian establishment via Putin himself. There's another
aspect of this, which is that we've seen in the
past when Carlson, for example, went and spoke to Putin,
he seemed to be trying to get this guy publicly
to lock himself into some kind of position based on
answers to questions that he gave. With the last interview
with Putin. When Tucker did it, he seemed to be
very much focused on whether or not Putin would be
willing to agree for the exchange of certain prisoners, intelligence prisoners,
possible spies, and the rest, and Putin wouldn't be drawn
into that. He would not allow himself to have any
sort of public position established for himself that would lock
him into doing things in a particular way in the future.
And I think that there's something to Tucker going and
doing these interviews that is beyond that is beyond the
simple need for the alternative points of view to be shown.
I think Tucker Carlson is someone who has developed for himself,
or had developed for him, this position as someone who's
able to go and talk to these people directly. And
so you would expect intelligence services to task him to
ask or to push on certain questions in order to
see if anything could be drawn forth in terms of
you know, what do the Russians really want? What are
you willing to accept? How can we resolve this? And
to get public positions about that on record? We you know,
I believe it. Carlson was saying back in the day
he had wanted to work for the CIA, and his
parents had some played I think his father played some
kind of role working and was working in journalism but
also being tied to the government.
Speaker 3: So I don't think for Europe here was what say
again ahead of Radio Free Europe.
Speaker 6: Well yeah, well there you go. So I don't think
that we should think of the Tucker Carlson just as
being a journalistic figure trying to figure out what's going on.
I think he has a mandate to go and do
some things and figure out what he can in certain respects.
I'm not sure I actually followed the question. You would
originally asked red Hawk there, so if I miss something,
please direct me back to it. I tend to wander
all over the place.
Speaker 2: No, you're just talking about things that stuck out to
us during this interview.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's the Iraushnik stuff, which is interesting too. Sorry, Pete,
go ahead.
Speaker 3: Well there's two things. One from the interview right off
the right off the jump, Tucker asked him if he
considered the United States to be an enemy, and he
wouldn't answer the question. He basically said no, and then
they ran. They came back to that, They circled back
to that at the end, and he seemed to be more, well,
you know this, this, you know, qualifying and everything. Here's
something I haven't heard anyone say. This interview dropped right
as Russia's basically hanging Syria out to dry. Was this
some kind of you know, distraction to try to get
Lavrov to come on here and talk about what is
going on with Russia? And you know, he talks about
everything that they're dealing with in Ukraine, got all this, Oliver,
and then yep, there was really nothing about what's happening
in Syria. Nothing in Syria. It almost seems like it
could have been a distraction in that way as well.
Speaker 6: Well, there definitely was. There was one little interesting bit
that I noted at the time, which was Tucker trying
to ask Lavrov about what parties he thought were behind
what was going what was beginning to unfold in Syria
at that moment, and you know, all of us watching,
the obvious answer would have been, you know that Turkey
was among them, and Lavrov very circumspectfully refused to mention
Turkey at all, And when Tucker pressed him on it,
he said, well, you know, people are saying I can't
be sure, but people are saying that Israel's involved and
the United States and there are just many players involved
here and we can't be sure. And so it was
easy at the time to set that aside and say, well,
because of the Astana process, you know, he was I
think the very following day or in the next couple
of days, he was going to be going to Doha
and to meet with Iranian Turkish leaders under the Astana
Process as established, the idea was that Iran and Turkey
and Russia would meet with each other at intervals to
stabilize the situation there and ensure the survival of Syria
with its existing borders and all the rest. So you
could say, well, he's a diplomat, he's about to go
and negotiate with the Turks. Why would he try to
stick a finger in the eye of the Turks prior
to going to do that. It doesn't serve his interests.
But if Turkey was in some sense cooperating with Iran
and Russia, it would make sense for Lavrov not to
have named them explicitly. Don't think we're going to know
what's going on there with that in that respect until
we see whether or not Turkey has any success with
the sort of roadmap it's laid out for itself to
become a sort of associate of the Bricks Nations. If
they get snubbed badly, since Iran is already a member,
then you know Russia and Iran are not interested in it.
Then you could you could say to yourself, well, it's
at least possible that they're pissed off about what Turkey did,
But if Turkey continues to move forward with that process,
it would seem that maybe Iran and Russia aren't all
that pissed off about it. You could also just say
it makes its stupid economically to lead money on the table,
regardless of whether you're pissed off with this other country.
But I suspect that if they do go forward with
it and Turkey continues to get closer to the bricks,
that leads the possible signal that they've worked some things
out beforehand. And I just did see something on the
Twitter timeline about how Iran and Turkey have just signed
some sort of major economic deal, which you know would
be a bit strange if Iran was really pissed off
about all that stuff. And then again, on the other hand,
you could come and say, well, Iran has been suffering
from sanctions for so long, it needs to get its
economy on a more solid footing, so they really don't
have a choice. I don't know, but those are That's
a little bit that I think is worth pointing out.
Speaker 2: I suppose the other huge thing that we should talk
about that came out of this interview is the discussion
of back channels between the United States and Russia. Of course,
in any diplomatic relationship, you're not going to discuss everything
between nations and public at these big gatherings at the
UN or any other conventions. I mean, one of the
other things that Lavrov mentioned is that basically all the
Westerners just snob him right to his face when they're
at all these uh, you know gatherings. I mean, really
just is the theater kid occupied government we talked about
all the time. It's just like, you know, backstabby, bitching politics, like, oh,
we can't be seen in the same room with this guy,
you know, because you know, a big bad Russia, evilman
or what have you. But the back channel communications, they're
either they're not discussing with each other or it's the
exact same thing that the Americans are saying in public
as that they are saying in the back channels. It's like,
why you even have these which is just unbelievably irresponsible. Again,
I remember Charlie mentioned this last week and I was
just gobsmacked by it. It's like, holy shit, like that,
how do you how do you do something like that?
Speaker 3: It's it's wild, It's hilarious. It's hilarious since historically the
Internet exists because of back channels between the two countries. Really,
that's why I was created. But you know, we we
were saying before we went live with these people walking
away from Lavrov, we don't have ambassadors. You know, there's
we don't have Charles Freeman's anymore. You know, we don't
have these guys who can actually carry on a conversation.
Most of these ambassadors or ships are sinecures given to
people who I mean, Kimberly Guilfoyle is going to be
the ambassador to Greece. I mean, what are ambassadors anymore?
Speaker 2: Don Junior needs a new girlfriend, you know, that's why
I got rid of him.
Speaker 3: I already broke up, actually, But I mean it's who
would want to talk to him? He's going to make
He's going to make you. Thomas seven seven seven could
have a much more interesting conversation with Sergei Lavrov than
the US ambassador to Russia, whoever the hell that is.
I don't know who is that. Somebody who worked.
Speaker 4: Or something evidently being the the dominant empire in the
world and having all this money and all the all
the things that they tell us how great, how great?
Speaker 5: The you some Paris.
Speaker 4: Doesn't result in us being able to like have knowledgeable
statesmen that have a good background and understand things in
the world, Like I don't know, Wing, that's too expensive
for us to afford.
Speaker 2: Just that your standards way too high, Stephen, Come on, now,
that's the we can't expect that.
Speaker 3: Come on.
Speaker 2: Anything else we want to say. Concluding this interview between
the two of them.
Speaker 3: No, you know, when you think, yeah, when you really
go back over it, there was it was a lot
of nothing. There was maybe a good fifteen minutes out
of the whole thing that you know, you can pick
at and be like, oh, that's interesting, But I'm going
to stand by it was a distraction of some sort.
And that doesn't mean Tucker even had to be in
on it. You know, Lavrov could have been like, oh, okay,
you have the interview now, and it's just basically distracts
people from you know, what they're about to do in
the Middle East.
Speaker 6: No, yeah, nothing really to add myself. I think I
think Pete's right, it's very likely that you had a distraction,
or it's not. Yeah, it's it's not exactly a distraction.
It's I mean, it is, but it's more like, here's
something to look at, and and it does carry a
sort of narrative or charge that it's like, well, at
least we're having this diplomatic discussion, right, at least with
communication has been opened up, you know, especially when you
contrast the discussion that they had that the public is
privy to with the idea that the actual people charged
with engaging in diplomacy are not doing their job, and
that as bad as it looks to us on the
front end, it's just as bad on the back end.
So part of it may just be that this is
a this is an opening. Let's let's talk to Russia
and see if Lavrov says anything interesting. But Lavrov is
just so I mean, he's he's been doing it for
so long and is obviously so skillful and experienced with
it that you would you would expect only to get
diplomatic answers. I mean literally, these are diplomatic answers, and
so you know, I wouldn't expect any sort of massive
revelation in the course of them.
Speaker 2: No, like we were saying, just the main takeaway is
just a comparison between this guy and anyone working in
the State Department in the United States. Well, it's just
night and day comparison, and you can just tell immediately
just by the way the guy talks. So why don't
we move on, We'll tackle another topic and then we'll
catch up on some super chats. So, as the title
of the stream suggests, today the White Man is back.
Daniel Penny has been acquitted of his manslaughter charge and
all his other charges. So the man is walking free,
which is, uh, you gotta say, good for this guy.
He's the first ever Alpha Chad to rock the broccoli
hair pretty well, so good for him. He went to
a bar afterwards and was celebrating, you know, drinking the
day away, which I certainly would have in his situation.
But it was a bit of a nail bier. I
know a lot of people had mixed feelings on this one.
If he was going to get charged, if we were
going to have you know, the like the Ferguson effect
and the Floyd effect coming in full swing once again
on this one. But no justice was served in this case.
And now there are rumors going around that his lawyers
are going to return fire as it were at the
corrupt prosecutors that brought this case for it in the
first place.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, yeah, there's something that we were I
was talking with Stormy about in an episode we just recorded,
was everybody because they have to make this a black
and white thing. Did you ever watch the video? I
mean when he takes the guy to the ground, who
helps him, three black guys jump up and start holding
the arms and the legs holding this guy down.
Speaker 5: I know, did they did?
Speaker 4: They literally like crop the photos that most people saw
so you couldn't tell that those black guys were right
there with him.
Speaker 3: I don't know about the photos, but I mean I've
seen the video and they yeah, yeah, it's so easy
to see that. But it's just so easy to overlook.
I mean, when you when you have the reins of
the narrative, when you can control the narrative, you can
make it, make it into anything you want. You really
have to wonder in in an environment where it seems
like people are realizing that justice they're not going to
get justice, and some people are taking justice into their
own hands, whether you know this week, this district attorney
who I'll I'll save my uh my normal rant and
and not say anything and this you know this horrible judge.
I mean you have to wonder whether they're like, okay,
what what could happen to us? Are we in danger
if if this, if this goes through, you know, dropping
the first charge, dropping the uh what was that a
manslaughter charge?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they dropped it because the jury was so hung
they weren't going to get a conviction, and so in
an attempt to at least get him on something that
just shows how evil these people were in this case,
they dropped that charge. Try and get him on the
lesser ones. Oh well, maybe the jury will all agree
on maybe some lesser ones if we dropped the big ones.
Speaker 3: But they didn't.
Speaker 6: Uh, they quitted him on that.
Speaker 2: Thank god.
Speaker 3: Well, isn't that another white pill that there was a
jury in New York that was hung on this? I
mean you would think, you know, we think about the
O J jury and other juries like like that that
just or the Derek Chauvin jury. Well that didn't happen
in this case. So I mean, maybe this is a
sign that things are you know, things are making a
turn back in the right direction at least, you know,
I guess you know it's these days, hope is a
thing that is you know, when you have it, a
lot of times you're disappointed. When you have it. A
lot of people accuse you of, you know, just coping,
you know, because especially if it doesn't go your way.
But you know, I just tell those people to fuck themselves.
But yeah, maybe maybe things are Maybe things are turning.
I mean, if if this can happen in New York,
it can happen anywhere. Dury nullification can happen in New
York City, it can happen. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of the Derek Chauvin versus Daniel Penny cases.
Like in a way, it sounds like they're kind of
parallel in this sense that the black guy who died
in both cases.
Speaker 5: I think there were a lot of drugs involved.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, Yeah, toxology was off the charts in both cases,
and in both cases I don't think they well, actually
I don't remember on the Derek Schouvin case, but he
didn't actually die while being held down with Daniel Penny, right,
he died a bit later. So it seems like really parallel,
which makes me wonder why did we get one result
in one case and a different result than the other.
I mean, is it literally because Trump got elected. You
know what I mean, that seems a little I.
Speaker 2: Think a lot of people are obviously really fed up.
I mean, if we are to bring up comparisons between
you know, Pete mentioning, maybe they maybe the page is turning,
so to speak. I saw a lot of people who
didn't really have their thumb on the pulse with this one,
claiming that oh, there's going to be major chimpouts and
riots all over the country over this one. And of
course there is nothing which was obvious to anyone who's
really been paying attention recently, like the energy of all
these you know, huge riots and you know, street protests
is it's just gone. I don't think you can see
any of this stuff for quite some time.
Speaker 4: Did that actually change the result of the trial in
the two cases? Did that swing the result that That's
sort of something I'm puzzling over. And if so, was
it the jury that was different? Was it the court?
Because like I think in the Derek Chauvin case, they
literally held back all the evidence that would be how
do you said, exculpating or whatever.
Speaker 5: For Chauvin.
Speaker 4: They didn't let them see the toxicology reported, right, they
kind of they did. He didn't really get a fair trial,
as my understanding.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I would also throw in another consideration, which
is that what we were talking about previously was the
Summer of Floyd, and what we're talking about here is
the Winter of Penny, and you can't get large even
when you pay them. And I am convinced that there's
absolutely nothing that was grassroots about the Summer of Floyd,
nor about any of these events that we saw during
the period when Trump was in office and they were
mobilizing vast numbers of people to get out on the
streets and show their asses. I don't believe that that
was grassroots for a moment. So the one aspect is
it's just really hard to get large numbers of black
people out on the streets in cold weather, regardless of
whether you pay them. And the other thing is I
think it comes down to people being willing to pay
for it. And for whatever reason, you know, the Soros
types didn't seem to be willing or able in this case.
I don't know which it is, probably willing, though I
would assume they didn't seem willing or able to mobilize
their forces, which raises you know, questions there as well.
Speaker 3: So I am. I'm a big fan of former Pony
Express radio guest Charles Haywood, and Charles said that he
believed that, you know, come December, you'd see some kind
of coup attempt on Trump to keep him out. And
December is not over. But we certainly don't even I
don't think anyone's feeling any kind of vibe towards that,
which is interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what we see is everyone world leader's domestic folks,
everyone's just adjusting for a world of Trump. Now, back
to the serial thing briefly, it sure seems like they're
hurrying and trying to get certain things done before January twentieth, right,
but that's not like that that again would be a
sign of Yeah, Trump's coming. So if we're going to
do this, we bet we'd better do it now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I tend to think that, Well, one of my hypotheses.
I can't prove it. It's all my raw speculation, and
I've been dramane wrong in the past, so your mileage
may vary. No reason to accept this. But one of
the most useful explanatory models I've tried to apply to
all of this is the idea that there is a
deep state and the deep state really doesn't want Trump
at all and really does want to destroy him. But
there is a deeper state for whom it was perfectly
reasonable to have Biden come into office, even greatly desirable,
and for whom it was likewise greatly desirable to have
this very plausible, very believable public spectacle witnessed by everyone
across the world of one administration absolutely trying to destroy
the incoming one because you bring in someone like Biden,
who appears to be mentally greatly compromised, who doesn't seem
to actually be running the country at all, and you
bring him in, and you have a whole period where
the United States can do things with a certain degree
of plausible deniability. If the they can back out of it,
they can reach accommodations later without their reputation being destroyed forever.
If you have another administration come in that was seemingly
attacked and denigrated in every possible respect by the previous one,
you can say, what we didn't do that where that
was the previous guys And we all know how evil
they are. And you know, obviously I wasn't a part
of it, not me, not Trump. I don't have anything
to do with this because these people were just trying
to destroy me. So I'm happy to come in and
try to reach accommodations now and focus on peace and
none of this on first off, again, it's just a hypothesis.
I'm not saying it's correct, and none of it I
should add is it should be taken as me suggesting
that Trump is necessarily in on it, although I wouldn't
say that he's necessarily not in on it either. It
just seems to me that this was too useful. You
get to run this crazy experiment of starting a land
war in Europe on its eastern borders with Russia, and
you get this whole thing of driving the Palestinians out,
attempting to ethnically cleanse them, going a long way towards
that seizing territory in Syria, all these sorts of things,
and then Trump can just come in and say that
wasn't on my watch. And as a consequence, the relationship
of the United States to all these countries, many of
which were directly affected by this, you get wiggle room.
You can say, well, that wasn't us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oliver, it always comes to mind, you know, just
the timing of big events like this and incoming administrations.
The I understand there's questions about how exactly the Iran
hostage crisis was, the timing of how that was resolved.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that installed right, Yeah, they stalled it on Carter
and then gave it to Reagan as a win if
I remember correct.
Speaker 4: Man inauguration day, Oh, it's literally on an Okay, I
thought it was like yeah.
Speaker 3: Which is like there's an inauguration speech.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: It just suggests to me that there is a deep
continuity somewhere. And because I don't believe that they were
just pretending to go after Trump, I think they were
really going after Trump, which requires me to hypothesize that
there's a deeper, older group that's more quiet, more powerful,
and less stupid, that it's studied to allow this group
to come in, which would go a long way towards
answering questions about why, you know, when a whole group
of states affected by the election, which I personally view
as having been well fortified, you have a whole group
of attorneys general from these states coming in and going
to the Supreme Court and saying what the hell, and
the Supreme Court says you have no standing. I mean
the sheer number of things that people could have been
screwed for that were going on. In terms of all
the attacks on Trump that no one has ever been
brought to account for. I mean, you know, a few
people from the FBI get you know fired, you know,
I wonder whether or not they got their little you know,
severance package or whatever. I mean, nothing happened to anyone.
So it seemed like it seemed like a perfect interregnum
period with associated plausible deniability. Again, don't know it, just guessing.
I have no idea. I'm not read in on a
damn thing.
Speaker 4: Well, I just want to say that, thinking about Brigan's
inauguration nineteen eighty one, I want to know what Trump's
going to give us on January twentieth. Come on, I mean,
at least all the jit Well, I guess it's already
been said that the January sixth, folks, it's going to
be like case by case they're going to take forever
or whatever. Right, Rather than him getting up there and saying, yeah,
that's dumb, they're out, we ought to at least get that,
preferably something even more exciting.
Speaker 6: Well, time will tell them that case, right, Yeah, and
on his way one last thing, sorry red Hawk on
his way out. It looks like, if if this is
all true what I saw going by on extra Twitter
or whatever, Biden came in and like pardoned two Chinese
spies and one Chinese guy who uh one Chinese guy
who apparently had a bunch of peto shit on his computer.
Speaker 2: Like, I guess what came out from that is that
they did them. They did a prisoner exchange apparently, so
they so like they attached like the pardon which like
goes away if they ever come back to the United States.
Apparently what I was reading more about that, so they
did like an exchange with the Chinese, you know, for
these two guys by But yeah, so of course they're
gonna try and get everything out of the way before
uh Trump comes on in, you know, sand bag the
current administry or the incoming administration. But I guess, just
in conclusion, uh, I'll say this, when we got the
announcement of this case on Monday, it was a nice
white pill. It was a nice you know, uh recovery
for all the troops as it were, because the last
month on Twitter has just been dog shit since Trump's election.
So the Monday went out we got the Daniel Penny
announcement was really like the first day it had been.
It had been fun on Twitter since election day. So
that was really nice, nice morale boosting moment for everyone.
So good from Daniel Penny walks out of free.
Speaker 3: Dan Black pillars see Canadian Healthcare.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so nice work to uh Daniel Penny. I
hope he sues these people. I hope he uh gets
a shipload of money for it and hopes it gets
he gets to live the rest of you days thinking
of ways to destroy the current regime. So nice work
on that front. Well, we have another case we'll be
looking at in a moment here, but we must fire
away on some of these super chats that have come
in from our lovery viewers and the chat. So starting
at the top, we got Solid Snake nineteen sixty four.
You know he's been coming in, you know, right, I
think he's becoming like the first super chat the last
couple streams, he's encroaching on your territory, Csider. You got
to get back to it and be in there first
with your salutes. Every week you're you're slacking a little bit, sir,
But thank you Solid Snake for coming in first as always.
For five bucks, he says, Evening, gents, been up with
all the Wichita lads this last Saturday and an awesome time.
Hoping to get together again sometime soon. Do you guys
see that it's Iran's drones flying around New Jersey? Lindsey
Graham hopes they are anyway, Salute the OGC. Yeah, that's
that's just when you've been around long enough, you just
know immediately when the stories are fake news. And man, o, man,
is that a huge one. I just do not give
a shit about that story at all. Everyone's talking about
all the tim Pooles and you know, normy con people
in the world was saying, oh my gosh, the UFOs.
It's like, I legenerally don't give a shit about the
story at all. I could not care less. Let's move
on to Zendrath their demons. Yeah, yeah, there you go,
zen Rath for five bucks. Good white boy Winter say
it back. Yeah, Corbyn Ramsey for twenty bucks. Well, Red
Hawks see the Craven the Hunter movie. Seems there was
more gore in the trailer for a Craven than all
glad eat or two. I can't remember the last time
I went to a theater to see the movie. I mean, actually,
or shall I say a new movie. I went and
saw die Hard last year for the thirtieth anniversary in theater,
so I got.
Speaker 5: To say that'd be nice. I missed that it was
in theater.
Speaker 2: That sounds yeah, yeah, So I got to see that
last Christmas, which was which was really fun. But yeah,
I mean, I just just don't go to the movies anymore. No,
it's just not enjoyable. Let's see Pete Budapez for five bucks.
Assad's ousting seems like a powerbrokerring. The West gets to
declare victory before deal is made on Ukrainehere Russia gets
what it wants. Oh maybe, I mean Charlie gave us
a long exposition last week on his concerns about the
Trump administration with negotiations for a settlement for Russia Ukraine.
I don't know time will tell on this one, but
but you know, it's definitely not an impossibility. Let's move
on to j for ten bucks. Have people listened to
Mark Andresen on the Free Press podcast. He's an elite,
well versed in our spheres elite theory. Especially he recommends
the Machiavellians as his most actionable book.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're pretty aware of injrees. Yes, he follows a
number of us, and lately he's been.
Speaker 4: At first it seemed like he was sort of like
quietly following, but lately it seems like he'll pretty much
just as the super chattered here indicates, he'll just share
some of the kind of stuff that we're interested in
straight out, you know.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, he's paying attention.
Speaker 6: He's got he's got me blocked the fuck.
Speaker 3: He may he may even listen to some of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe wouldn't. Yeah, exactly like ancha firm Nordon and I. Yeah, uh,
screwed up Texas for ten bucks, says christ has risen
salute Yeah in deep. Christmas season is coming up, birth
the baby Jesus, So thank you very much, screwed up
Texas and the I always like seeing the Salute gang
showing up in the chat. So nice work, Fellaws chief
slinging beef for ten bucks. Pray for me, brothers. I
must take a voyage to the foreign land of Nashville
tomorrow on my f and birthday. Nonetheless, I hate that
talent with a passion.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I always found the traffic there has just been a
nightmare the last couple of years. I must walk among
the jeets in the Californians. Yeah, I guess that's a
good point too. A lot of people are moving there.
It's like the fastest growing city in the country. I
think when last I read about.
Speaker 6: It, well, yeah, they seem they seem resolved to destroy Tennessee,
which is a real tragedy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean the traffick of that place is
just absolutely insane. Now let's see, uh city breakdancer, man,
what a great name. Appreciate the Scream Boys just stopped
in to drop some love. We'll listen tomorrow. I'll thank
you for all the replay. Gang guys listen to us
after Seaside for a ten Bucks sends a salute, thank
you as always. My friend and son of Hafster from
up in the New Ivy League sends us five bucks
all star lineup fellows, salute, thank you very much. And
Jack for five bucks says it may not be white,
but boy do I know what's right?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Cool, thank you, I appreciate it both, fellow. Speaking of
another case that's been going on in the city of
New York, we have a new updates as it relates
to the Healthcare CEO assassination. The alleged killer has been
taken into custody. Luigi was a Mangioni or something like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I thin they extradited him from what was it,
Pennsylvania to New York.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say Club Tropical Excellence, but h yeah, yeah, yeah,
so they actually died.
Speaker 5: It does it does look like that red Hawk. I
didn't even think of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they uh actually died and brought him back.
I don't know. As we've been talking about the story
quite a bit every night on mister D's Twitter spaces
whenever we've had a chance, and I mean it definitely
seems to me as we get more info about this, uh,
this guy just had an Iowaska trip and just completely
lost his brain and went all schitzo posting. We got
a picture here of this guy basically is doing like
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, you know, numerology, basically the
secret to everything is the number two eighty six. Well
so that's a little odd. I mean, yeah, look, he's
even got the Pokemon reloom in his Twitter Avatar, which
is poke decentry to eighty six and yeah, I don't know.
This one's just getting weirder and weirder as we learned
more about it.
Speaker 6: There's a thread going around that I saw today that
hypothesized the hypothesizes some sort of relationship between the Pelosi's,
you know, notorious wealth generation through stock trading based on
insider knowledge, something having to do with a massive data
breach with United Healthcare and apparently some legal action taken
against United Healthcare and the fact that this Luigi Manngiones family,
according to this thread, I haven't followed up or checked
any of it. According to this thread, they're a very
wealthy family in Maryland in the same sandbox as part
of the Pelosi Gang, and that they made their money
with healthcare. Apparently they run a whole series of elder
care homes called Lori enn So. And they point out
that apparently Luis Gimanngioni was heading north from Atlanta to
New York several days prior to this conference, which hadn't
been announced, which would suggest some sort of insider knowledge
on his part in terms of the event happening in
the first place. Though the threat is set forth as
though it reveals some sort of, you know, secret connection.
It's just a bunch of sort of circumstantial stuff at
this point, but it does suggest there might be more
going on here, might be, I don't know, it might
be more going on here than a bad eyahuasca trip.
Speaker 4: Well, what do you think I'll anyone going for the
story that he's a patsy and he didn't actually kill
the guy, and they just he was, you know, kind
of crazy, and so they figured they could put him
up as the guy who did it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. I think I may have I've
seen that at least hinto that, if not said explicitly,
I just I'm in no position to know. I haven't
followed it very closely.
Speaker 2: I mean, one of the more interesting things that have
come out of this is just a comparison to this
guy to Thomas Matthew Crooks, in the sense of, within
a week, we know basically everything about this guy. Where
he went to school, whose family are, what you like
to do in his spare time. He had a back injury,
so we know his medical history, you know, you know
his family, his family's wealth. And then you look at
Thomas Matthew Crooks, would literally know nothing about the guy
at all. So that kind of suggests to me, if
there's something, you know, darker at foot here, they would
just memory hold this and you know, just no point
of being talking about it.
Speaker 3: It all just seems odd from the beginning. I mean,
it was like the you know, the killing was making
a statement with how many bullets he fired, the way
he did it, the way he set it up. If
it if it is him, I don't know. I had to.
You know, my friend Pause always says, don't don't stare
directly into the op. Yes, every everything is an OP.
Don't stare. You have to, you have to look around. Yeah,
so you know, you know, all I know is, you know,
somebody who basically used socialists and Marxists and communist means
to enrich a few people, a CEO of a healthcare
company and also defrauded a fire was defrauding a fire
a fireman's pension, something like that. Caught some bullets that
I'm supposed to care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this has been like the main argument, right,
that has been the.
Speaker 3: Violence the supreme authority from which all other authority is derived.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a nice combination of a starship troopers at
fight club there for you never thought I'd see the day.
But I mean that really has been the whole crux
of the the argument right this whole week is you know,
like I've seen like Takes a I want to we'll
call it, let's let's call it more of like the
Finalist crowd like Takes saying that you know, like, hey,
isn't this more or less what you want? You know,
it's like the bearer violence necessary for change, and it's like, no.
Speaker 6: Not like that.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's it's one of those things where
you know, a lot of people have no problems when
a bunch of people chimp out in a city because
you can hide from that. If you have one person
who sets their sights on you, you can't hied from that.
They're gonna get you.
Speaker 2: I mean that certainly was the thing that stuck out
to me immediately when this whole story first kicked off,
was the fact that it's nice to have the idea
out there that nobody is untouchable, right.
Speaker 3: And that's what I was implying about the DA and
the judge in Daniel Penny's case.
Speaker 2: M I mean, I think the thing to make most
note of. But this story is if this guy, the
victim I'm talking about, was the CEO of any other industry,
it's like a you know, like like a Ford CEO
or a Tech CEO or something like that, the story
definitely wouldn't have caught fire the way it did. I mean,
everyone is talking about this because it's healthcare. Because everybody
on all sides of the aisle knows that the healthcare
industry in America is corrupt, exploitative, and fucked up beyond
all recognition at all levels, and everyone is pissed off
about it. I'm not saying, like what this guy did
is like a good thing. Obviously, murder is wrong, and
we don't want you know, street violence and vigilantism and such.
Speaker 6: But the hell.
Speaker 4: As people were observing, as somebody was saying, you know,
left wing, right wing, all kinds of people are kind
of having this similar reaction.
Speaker 5: So so, yeah, this is it seems to sort of
be a non partisan issue.
Speaker 3: Struck.
Speaker 2: It struck a nerve with a lot of people because, like,
who likes dealing with insurance companies? We all know they're
fucked up, we all know they're breaking the law every day,
and nothing is done about it.
Speaker 3: I mean, the gayest part of this whole thing is
is that as soon as it happened, people started arguing, Oh,
is he a leftist?
Speaker 4: Is he?
Speaker 3: Is he on the right? Oh? If I'm on the right,
then I'm going to say he's a Marxist. If I'm
on the left, he did a good Yeah.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of that going on, especially for
the daily wire types.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why did he do it? Okay, that's the only
thing you eat. The only question you really need to
be asking is why did he do it? Okay, you
want to know why. It's like nine to eleven. Okay,
that building a building fell, they didn't get Okay, three
buildings fell that day. Why did it happen? That's the
most important question. Everything else is a fucking distraction. Why
did it happen?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean people want to know which team the
killers on and which team the guy who got killed
is on, so they could decide which team they're going
to root for or root against.
Speaker 2: Or something like that.
Speaker 5: It's it's kind of a silly way of looking at
the license thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, one of the things I wanted to
use this topic to springboard onto a different one is
we're talking about how the healthcare system is just beyond
broken in this country. Well just basically everything is broken.
The mistake economy is something I wanted to talk about
in Springboard off of this. You know, I'll give just
a very very basic example today, and I'm sure everybody
in the chat has some experience like this on the
weekly basis, no matter what it is. Right, So I
went to one of the stopping shop like oil change
places today to get the oil changed on my truck.
Speaker 3: Right, this is.
Speaker 2: Supposed to be a very quick, fifteen minute process. Everybody's
done it in a million times before. Right, I spent
an hour in my truck, sitting in this place waiting
for these chuckle fucks to do a very very basic task.
And I hear these guys underneath my truck. They're laughing
at each other. I could hear one of the guys
has his phone out, you know, they're telling jokes, they're
take it forever, They're wrenching on shit. They come up
and give me the most bullshit excuse like, oh, well,
it was really on there, really tight. You had to
make sure it was off. And I'm just thinking in
the back of my mind, like these guys basically have
you buy the balls because you can't go out and
complain really about it because they're going to fuck up
your car or something. And there's no like actual way
these guys are going to get punished for their incompetence.
It's like you go to the DMV and this like
room temperature iq sha booon now just has complete control
over your life for the next three hours unless you
do everything that person says. And there's like no accountability
for these people getting fixed. But it's little things like
this like oh, you go to home depot and they
don't have the part for you, even though you called
ahead and you know, the chick behind the register said,
oh yeah, we totally have it, or like the person
doesn't put the extra sauce in your bag when you
order something from Chick fil A, or in this case
which we're about to show in a second here, like
somebody renigs on a deal that you just made. It's
just everything is not working anymore and people are getting
their fuses burned ever ever so close to the edge,
and a lot of people are just going to reach
the Michael Douglas falling down moment where they just go boom,
case in point right here, let's watch.
Speaker 5: Im oh.
Speaker 7: The cops.
Speaker 2: So in this case, this is not a Utah and
this guy had just bought this Nissan from this dealership
like an hour or two before came back. I think
it's a Nissan, whatever the hell it is.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, if it's a super, I can't believe
this guy's not a lesbian. Well, so.
Speaker 2: Next work, Doug enhance, you know, ligged blade Runner. But uh, basically,
the the point I'm trying to raise here is like, like,
how do we fix this? This has obviously gotten way
worse since the cove. We all realize this just very
basic functions all over our society just do not work anymore.
All of corporate America basically exists just to fuck you
over in some way or another. So what do we
do about this? Fellas? Do we just have to completely
break this system in order for there'd be some kind
of repairs.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not a believer in break it, but I
am a big believer, and I'm no great philosopher in this,
so you know whatever, But I believe that there is
some value in organizing so that you can bring an
extreme focus to problem areas in such a fashion that
shame and abuse or lost revenues or whatever will have
their effect. And there are a variety of ways to
do it. You know, it's just basically like take a
take a magnifying glass and the sun is the public
and focus that attention metaphorically speaking, so that it burns.
And that's where you get into the whole thing of
narrative generation and the rest. The problem is, most of
the people on our side of things, from what I've seen,
they don't build plans where each thing that happens is
designed to lead to the next thing and the next
thing and the next thing, so that you can snowball things. Generally,
we have scattershot attention. We don't draw up plans. And
here I'm talking about perfectly civil and perfectly legal plans.
We don't draw them up in narrative sequences where you,
for example, have a group of guys who get together
for the period of a year and you say, okay,
what can we win on with limited resources? And if
we do get the first win, how will it build
to the second and the third and the fourth, So
that you've got a whole plan with contingencies for how
you address these problems in our society. We just don't
do it. We don't. We don't have right wing think
tanks that I'm aware of that lay out plans at
this scale and across time, with the contingency aspects and
the rest building upon each previous step that came. And
I think until we do, we're not gonna. We're not gonna,
We're not gonna see changes.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was having a conversation yesterday and we were
talking about Citizens United, and we were talking about the
United Healthcare CEO and how he's They've been convicted three
times and found guilty. If they were a private individual,
they'd be facing life in jail, but no they don't.
They're exempt from this. And you know, it always goes
back to this mid century country in Europe. You wouldn't.
No one would be gutting down a CEO in the
street in mid in a certain country in mid century Europe,
because the government would be pulling that CEO in doing
a really quick trial and they would take care of it.
We don't have anybody watching out for us. People in
power are supposed to be watching out for us. We're
supposed to have a common culture, and power is supposed
to be watching out for us. But we have a
completely derastinated culture. We have a multi culture, and everything
is in chaos. It all needs to be fixed. You
don't have to tear it down, you just have to
change it so that happens. Shit like this is just
going to continue to happen.
Speaker 6: And for the record, do we just happen to know
the spectators like myself, do we know why this guy
who's pissed off and drove his car through the wall
of the dealership.
Speaker 2: He came to the dealership earlier, bought the car, apparently
there was some kind of issue with it, went to
come take it back like an hour or two later.
Company said all sales are final. Guy said, you're gonna
take this car back. I'm gonna wripe it through the
front of the building. They didn't take the car back,
and here's a result. Yeah.
Speaker 6: See, he's a man of his word that if nothing
else should be celebrated. You know, I said I was
going to do it.
Speaker 3: Your promises come, they keep their promises.
Speaker 4: Well, there's one thing that comes to mind, this is
an old Austrian school thinking, which is that it seems
like some of the behavior we're talking about here feels
a little bit like economic boom behavior, things tend to
get sort of loosey goosey. People feel like they kind
of can get away with everything, and in a bust,
you get this sort of.
Speaker 5: Tightening backup of behavior.
Speaker 4: You know, people are expected to go into the office
again and maybe not dress in their pajamas and you know,
things like that.
Speaker 5: So I don't know, I just throw it out there
because if we.
Speaker 4: Do have a bust and suddenly we notice that a
lot of a lot of behavior that had become acceptable
is no longer considered acceptable, you can remember that I
said this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just uh, I don't know what it's gonna take,
but I'm just sick of like like I just want
to be I almost just want to become a hermit
at this point, Like I just don't even want to leave.
I just want to buy stuff from online all time,
because like it's like you have to plan like a
complete like assassination pot Osama bin Laden just to go
to home depot these days, and I'm just sick of it.
You just run through like ten different huh like situations
in your brain like oh, how's this person gonna fuck
me over today?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: I go into the office. Oh of course they don't
have what I'm looking for. Oh of course, it's going
to take a little extra longer. Oh of course it's
going to take, you know, however long for something to
be done that was a mundane task not even five
years ago. I mean, yeah, talks about all the time
of the sheeps hearing operation that goes on in the
United States, and it's really really hard not to agree
with him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're a real, real problem. I just saw Charlayne said, yes,
become the hermit. I was just about to say, you know,
you can always move way out into the country in
the woods, like like I've done, like like Charlemagne's done.
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that you're a minister. Then it takes
you three months to get your transmission change. Well, yes,
but it did get changed properly. It finally, it finally did.
That's an inside joke with because I guess.
Speaker 2: That's a question, right, would you rather have it done
correctly and it takes forever or would you rather you
do have it done quickly? But it breaks it there.
Speaker 6: And and I'm able to go actually talk to the person,
and he is in charge of his shop. Whereas you
can know you can run through the the I remember
when I was a younger man, not an old man
as I am now, and I had an older friend
and I would always hear him bitching. He was always like, oh,
I'm just trying to get this done. I'm just trying
to get that done. And he would always tell me
things like jump on it right now, you know, hammer
the process through. Do not wait, They're gonna screw you.
And I was like, who lives that way? And then
I got old enough to where I have a number
of different things that need to get done right, and
I to your point, red Hawk, I spend an enormous
amount of my time just sitting and thinking before I
have interactions with people in order to like manage that
process and get it done right. And even so, even
so it half the time it doesn't work out. Like
I mean, the worst is lawyers, man. I mean, we
don't need to get lost down that rabbit hole. But
like you're paying them, you know, significant sums of money
and they don't really do anything. And their entire attitude
is I'm doing you a favor. You're lucky, I'm helping
you at all. You're lucky. I took the project only
to like sit on it and not do anything right.
So yeah, welcome to yeah maturity, call it. So I'm
not too depressed. No one does anything right.
Speaker 5: Sounds like you guys are not feeling that as customers
you are king no.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah. Do you remember that in the early nineties
when they're like, the customer is always right? I mean,
I remember you used to be able to log God,
call people up. Yeah, you used to be able to
call people up and be like.
Speaker 2: I'm a customer. I demand to be taken care of.
Speaker 6: Now they just they just hang up or laugh or
my favor knowing that whole COVID period, you can't call anyone,
there's no one to call. Literally, there's no one.
Speaker 2: To quiring to figure out the new technique to just
fuck you right in the ass. That is what all
these people are doing now. It's it's so bad thing.
I mean, expect more of this, That's all I'm gonna say.
You know, people are just gonna lose their shit and
you're gonna get stuff like this. One of the things
that really pisses me off to no end is when
people followed the rules to the letter but aren't actually
like following them to the spirit and it's like, oh,
we close at six fifty nine and you show up
at like six fifty five, and now it's like no, no, no, no,
we can't serve you man, no, no no. It's like
come on, man, you know you can't do me a
solid here. Like just it's weird how it's like, this
is this extreme feminization like rules following culture that we
have in all the businesses, but at the same time,
there's just no like actual you know, moving about of
the rules when it calls for it. Now it's just like, well,
this is our policy. It's like, yeah, I get it
to your policy, but your policy is fucking stupid and
my unique situation doesn't actually fall into your policy. So
how would you do me a solid here? Rajiesh No,
But of course you don't get that anymore, so I know, yeah, exactly,
but yeah, and.
Speaker 4: I'll I'll just just while we're while we're complaining, I'll
just mention the thing about calling for support, you know,
and you know, the first line of people you're talking
to are totally useless, and your objective is to get
past level one, right, and then you might get to
someone who can help you.
Speaker 2: But but It's like.
Speaker 5: I didn't play much football, but I'm picturing like a
football scenario. Right, you got to kind of like muscle
your way past.
Speaker 2: You get a march downfield just to get a result.
Speaker 6: Yeah, not even to get a result, to get someone
who is capable of comprehending what the issue is.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly exactly, And you know you bring up oh,
the customer is always right, and they're like wrong.
Speaker 2: Well, we're not going to end the stream just on
this one. We do actually have a bit of a
light story to talk about. We saw this this week.
Speaker 3: Heroic.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I thought so. Yeh. I saw this going around.
Maybe people saw this on Twitter. This very brave gentleman
scaled a nineteen story building to rescue his mother. Why
don't we listen in on this one?
Speaker 7: Scaling a nineteen story burning building in Philadelphia with the
hopes of reaching his mother trapped inside.
Speaker 8: I'm not just going to sit there and let my
mom die. I'd rather risk my life fall and then
let her sit in there and die.
Speaker 2: He climbed it all the way up the outside of
the build.
Speaker 7: Sometime after nine thirty pm, Jermaine received a call from
his sister saying his sixty five year old immobile mother
couldn't make it out of her apartment on the fifteenth floor.
Jermaine rushed to the scene, but police had blocked off
the front door.
Speaker 8: They said they was like the elevator and not working.
I'm like, no problem, I take the steps. I just
want to go make sure my mother. And my mother
is sick. She bear ring, so I need to get
up there.
Speaker 7: But police wouldn't let Jermaine in. So, despite having fractured
his hip earlier that day, Jermaine let a dren and
take over, climbing the buildings fenced in balconies, wire cutters
in hand.
Speaker 8: I was gonna cut a hole in the fence to
next door and then you know, to let how go through.
Speaker 7: The fire was contained by the time he reached his
mother's floor. She reassured him from the balcony that she
was okay, and back down he went.
Speaker 5: Was she yelling at you because you climbed it outside?
Speaker 8: She was more shocked?
Speaker 3: She she really not.
Speaker 8: She she don't be surprised if things I do that.
Speaker 2: She know I'll go over and be off of her.
Speaker 6: So back down he went, expecting a quick arrest once
on the ground, but an understanding officer let him go.
Speaker 8: So he actually did come in a break because he
understanding the circumstances. He knew. You know, you know, when
you're adrenaline and pumping your mom up there, you're thinking
she dying.
Speaker 5: You do anything you can.
Speaker 6: I proposed for the previous point, I mean, also based,
but it's a propos because here you've got a situation
where you're selebrating the fact that the people who forced
you to climb up however many stories out the outside
of the building. The win is that you're celebrating the
fact they decided not to prosecute you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's literally just one of those people in.
Speaker 3: The chat think that where we're doing the chirp, the
chirp actually happened three times in that body.
Speaker 2: It wasn't for once, it wasn't done, It was actually
in the thing. This is not in post production, guys, No, no,
But yeah, you do bring up a good point, Oliver,
And this is something I was thinking of. I mean,
I actually hadn't watched that before we played it, just
because I wanted to be surprised. But your point is
well taken. That we talked about this a bunch like
this is a big red pill topic and married red
poll forums. Right, the two different parenting strategies between men
and women. And women have a very rules based parenting
strategy in the sense of, okay, the rules come down
from oh I'm sorry that minim a very rules based
parenting strategy in sense everybody knows the rules. They're declared
to everyone. You know if you break when you're gonna
get punished. But you also know that you know there's
a bit of wiggle room in these But as it
relates to a female parenting strategy, it's all completely emotional.
There's no actually rules set in stone because it's all
based on the emotions of the people who are actually
in the positions of power at that time. So it's
like people know this all the time, right, Like when
you're growing up as a kid, it's like, oh, have
your buddy go ask your mom if you can go
and sleep over, right, or have a play day with
your friend or something. It's like, oh, it will go
better if you ask my mom, right, Because you're playing
on emotions, you're not actually playing on rules, right, And
people figured this out at a very young age. Nobody
goes and asks the dad because the dad says, no,
your bedtime is xyze time. Just another example of this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's a perfect and simple, straightforward explication that
everyone can understand of why female judges should be forbidden.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shut up, chilly woman. Perfect. All right, let's wrap
up with some super chats and then we'll close down
for the night. Fellas, So scrolling down to Pee Budapest
for five bucks. So much of our society was set
up for people with a shared culture and morality, but
America is now drugged out, multicultural hellhole with anti morality. Yeah,
I mean, you can't expect our waspy standards to be
upheld by non wasps. Simple as that. And that's it.
No more super chats. Kind of a light night tonight.
But it's December. People are in the Christmas spirit. I'll
be Yeah, I'm to start traveling tomorrow for my own Christmas,
so I'll be gone the next couple of weeks. But Pete,
anything to promote.
Speaker 9: Sir Pekinana show Pete substack dot com. Check out the
episode I just dropped today. Thomas and I talking about Syria.
I think you'll get some insights there. Thomas actually knows
he has people that know people on the ground there.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: Take care of one right on, Steven, Do you have
anything remote, sir?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, like I said, I'm usually not here for
Tony Express Radio because my weekly show is on Thursdays,
and I guess for this audience, I'd want to mention
a series I've recently done on Rena Camu. And interesting
thing about Rena Camu is that he came up with
the phrase the great replacement thirty years ago, and.
Speaker 5: He spoke and wrote about what he meant.
Speaker 4: By the great replacement, and I found his thoughts quite interesting.
He's kind of coming at things from a different angle.
He's not exactly I don't know, a right winger, I suppose,
and yet I have found him really quite insightful in
thinking about what's been going on with what he calls
replaces them. So check out my series it's just called
Reno Camu on the channel Radical Iboration on YouTube. It's
a play west where I go through some of his writings.
I think you'll find it quite interesting. Alrighty, definitely go
check that out. It was a pleasure to speak with you,
Steven and Semigog.
Speaker 6: What do you have to promote sir, just my channel,
follow me over on YouTube, follow me on Twitter as
well if you like. I'm very very happy to be here.
Thanks for having me as a guest. I look forward
to checking out that stream that Pete just mentioned With Thomas.
I've been watching a bunch of the stuff out of
their back catalog, all kinds of great discussions. For my part,
the only thing I likely have coming up soon, if
I can get it scheduled, is discussion with people regarding
what's been happening in Georgia, the country, not the state.
And I will be having an appearance coming up on
Millennial with Woes. I believe that will be happening. Let
me scroll back here on my calendar. That should be
over on Millennial on Monday the twenty third, in the
evening at eight pm. And I think he's going to
do some sort of thing. He's calling a banquet where
he has a number of guests at one time this year.
That'll be happening on the twenty seventh. So yeah, thanks again, guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll bet that I'll be at that banquet.
Speaker 2: Yes, many of the many of the OGC guys will
be on MILLENNI uell this year for the American Banquet,
So everyone check your calendars for that one.
Speaker 3: Got the last time in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see that. I'll get that in one second.
So yeah, we'll be on the lookout for the OGC
guy's appearance on all billenni uele be sure to check
out all of our friends. Lenny, you all tend this year,
So what does an excellent job of which you go
over and support them? But yes, Paladin YYZ for twenty
bucks says Assad must go to the Pequanonas show.
Speaker 3: So funny, it.
Speaker 2: Would be interesting, great super Jet one. I can just
imagine like him making appearance on Orange Show. I have
a really interesting guest that you're really gonna enjoys al
sad welcome, But first let's hear from skill Share.
Speaker 3: We have to assume that Tucker is going to get
that right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be interesting.
Speaker 6: I thought about that.
Speaker 3: I might be chasing it.
Speaker 6: That would be interesting.
Speaker 2: No, it would be interesting for myself. I do not
really have much to promote at the moment. Next year,
I'm making the promise to revive the Son of Orion
sub stack because I want to get more of my
hunting posts out. There's been a severe backlog of though
that I need to get rolling, so that'll be my
New Year's resolution next year is to revive the Son
of a Ryan substack for everyone, so that'll be fun
little project for myself in the meantime. Like I said
at the start, check out Axios Remote Fitness and Coaching.
Link is in the description, so be sure to get
you I'll signed up and get jacked for next year.
White Boy Summer never ends. And speaking of White Boy Summer,
like I said, thirty percent off for the next thirty
hours of Pony Express radio t shirts. Be sure to
go over to WBS Apparel and buy a shirt while
supplies last. Also check out the olds you see Substack Tomorrow.
There's a podcast behind the paywall with.
Speaker 3: Who is It?
Speaker 2: It's Grant Brooks and Prudentialist Tomorrow are behind the paywall,
so you guys can sign up for eight bucks a
month on the Substack get access to all of our
paid content behind the paywall. We do like movie reviews,
some paid articles.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Our cult classic favorite is the Flag the US Flags
stream where we went through all fifty states and Oliver
you were on that one. We talked about vexillology of
the United States. Yeah, that was a fun one. And
also our Sicaro review is also another good cult classic
on that one, so if you guys.
Speaker 3: Can check out three times since that review, it's so good.
Speaker 2: It's such an amazing movie. I want to make a
real life alrighty, But with that out of the way,
I might make an appearance in the future, but if
I don't, have a merry Christmas, everyone and the Pony
Express Radio will be back next week in my absence.