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<v Speaker 1>In the same week, Donald Trump's speech at Davos faces

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<v Speaker 1>claims it was outlandish and crazy. We look at some

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<v Speaker 1>of the outlandish and crazy from Super League spin doctors

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<v Speaker 1>this offseason. While everyone seems to be joining Trump's Board

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<v Speaker 1>of Peace, the RFL seemed to be losing members of

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<v Speaker 1>their board left, right and center. And also while Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump brought a blast from the past in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Blair on his Board of Peace, hoping to reignite

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<v Speaker 1>past glory, it's got a set giants of them the same,

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<v Speaker 1>haven't they. John with Ralph Rimmer, who's back on their

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<v Speaker 1>fold with a remit for change. More of that in

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<v Speaker 1>Lee's laughter. Welcome everybody to the sixth episode of Super

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<v Speaker 1>League three sixty. My name is are very tired because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing the morning shift again and I could have

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<v Speaker 1>done with another two hours sleep, Lee Addison, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>And my name is John Javison.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a podcast primarily about rugby league in the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Super League three sixty, but such as a

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<v Speaker 1>nature of the sport, we often end up in different directions.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll also dedicate a little bit of time each

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<v Speaker 1>week to what's going on in Australia. If you are

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<v Speaker 1>interested in getting in touch, please my contact details Rugby

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<v Speaker 1>League Coach dot com. I use the website at Rugby

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<v Speaker 1>League Coach on Socials admin at Rugby League Coach dot

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<v Speaker 1>com dot au is the email Johnny. Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to just quickly run through your contacts if anybody wants

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you, or why anybody wants talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you or don't know you wait your mates up?

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<v Speaker 2>You can get me on Exit Johnny d Davidson and

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook Get John Davidson, the Journalist.

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast has been aired on the Ashes, Rugby League

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<v Speaker 1>and the Rugby League Coach podcast platforms, but I'm noticing

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<v Speaker 1>so many more of you going over to the Super

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<v Speaker 1>League three sixty one. Thank you because eventually that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only one I'll use and means less work. If you

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe to those and including the Rugby League Coach YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>where we put this as a full video with my

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<v Speaker 1>tired eyes and John's fresh eyes because he's been drinking

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<v Speaker 1>his coca by the fireside, then if you subscribe to

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<v Speaker 1>all those things, you won't miss a think I'm an

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<v Speaker 1>Englishman who's coached at NRL clubs, and a few other

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<v Speaker 1>things in Australia for a long time. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary this week actually, and I'm very tired. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I mentioned that yet, John, Who are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an Australian journalist who's been running that sport for

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<v Speaker 2>a good no one nearly two decades. Not yet.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a new segment this week. It's called John

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<v Speaker 1>Davidson's Tweet of the Week. At seven thirty am Brisbane time,

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<v Speaker 1>on the twenty second of the first twenty six you

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted or xed. Burners are becoming even more brazen and

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<v Speaker 1>obvious these days. They don't even bother with pretense? Are

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<v Speaker 1>the good old days? What did you mean there?

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<v Speaker 3>John?

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<v Speaker 2>It was just a response to a tweet put out.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously we're going to talk about in the podcast. But

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<v Speaker 2>I watched the London Broncos opening game of the season

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<v Speaker 2>against Witness Vikings. Now the Championship doesn't have a TV deal,

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<v Speaker 2>but they London decided to stream their game live on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there was about eight thousand or so people

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<v Speaker 2>who watched it live and it had about sixty five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand views in the sort of three days since. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just put that out, thought that was interesting. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>a decent audience. In the last video that London had

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<v Speaker 2>out of one of their games was against Bradford, which

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<v Speaker 2>had been watched by three hundred and sixty five people

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the season. Now a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people got upset about that or tried to climb up

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<v Speaker 2>their own people from P and G watching, or it

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<v Speaker 2>was an attack on Bradford. It wasn't really any of

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<v Speaker 2>those things. And it is funny how people can misconstrue

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<v Speaker 2>things or.

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<v Speaker 1>How dare people from P and G watch a game

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<v Speaker 1>if they were I mean, I'm sure their eyeballs are

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean, but that's yeah, that's neither here

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<v Speaker 2>nor there. I'm sure there were lots of people watching

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<v Speaker 2>or in the UK, probably some people in Australia. Definitely

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<v Speaker 2>some people on the P and G, but more than merry.

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<v Speaker 2>As you said, you know, people from P ANDNG can

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<v Speaker 2>buy shirts or merch and.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, quite a lot of Australians are interested in it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to take take a break from the

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<v Speaker 1>World Club Challenge preview analysis to do the London Broncos

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<v Speaker 1>from that game because of how many Australians are interested

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<v Speaker 1>the next couple of weeks. I sent the YouTube video

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody yesterday who was interested in the London Bronc

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<v Speaker 1>holes and he wanted some rugby league to watch. So

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<v Speaker 1>the next segment is the Rugby league tweet of the

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<v Speaker 1>week or thread of the week. I'll decide this week

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<v Speaker 1>it's a thread. Rob Tickle tweeted to Steve mascowd Rob

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<v Speaker 1>brother of Tess. He said, also, pretty much every import

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<v Speaker 1>in stadium atmosphere is far superior. Away fans are a

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<v Speaker 1>massive contributor to that. Steve replied, nice atmosphere doesn't pay

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<v Speaker 1>the bills. Martin Morrell said, I'm a bit confused what

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<v Speaker 1>you're actually what you're actually advocating for, Steve, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Newie Roosters wrote, he's saying that TV cash is far

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<v Speaker 1>more important than a bunch of plunkers eating pies in

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<v Speaker 1>the stands, and then Martin Morrel replied, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just stating the obvious, but that's not what Steve was

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<v Speaker 1>he knows about the UK game, he basist way too

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<v Speaker 1>much on the premise, Well, it works in the NRL,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's all you need to do. Lazy work. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Newie Roosters, who has a hashtag lol at South's, replied,

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that doesn't work is everything you've done.

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<v Speaker 1>You enjoyed that? Didja? Third new segment is Socials pop

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<v Speaker 1>at Lee of the Week. So was it the one

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<v Speaker 1>before Christmas we talked about Jamie Peacock getting arrested. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it was, yeah, And I had a I won't

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<v Speaker 1>say yeah, a senior moment. I just couldn't remember if

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Peacock had played for Bradford. Just for like thirty seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't remember, and I said to you he played

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<v Speaker 1>for Bradford, didn't he? Or words to that. EF fact

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<v Speaker 1>just so happens that that's in a clip that's gone out.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the responses to that Tommy Saxton on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>who also has poor grammar skills, it must be said,

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<v Speaker 1>absolute nonsense. I've watched Oh no, sorry, this was too

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<v Speaker 1>this was to an analysis Clipper did. Absolute nonsense. I've

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<v Speaker 1>watched a lot of your videos and in all honesty,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard better from my junior coaches at half Acres

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<v Speaker 1>and I Recired cool Bank, thanks for boosting, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>helping me earn by watching videos, thanks for watching Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Shanes or yeah oh sorry. So anyway, that Jamie Peacock video.

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<v Speaker 1>Liam Jacquelin said after seeing that video, stopped watching after

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<v Speaker 1>did he play for Bradford as well? Rugby league podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and the guy knows nothing. That's obviously the message on.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to be a rugby league and cyclopedia,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to know if Jamie Peacock played for Bradford

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one years ago. Two others said similar. Sean Curley

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<v Speaker 1>Kirkley sorry not Curly said, did he play for Bradford?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you series? I think he meant serious. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>be doing an RL podcast at your age and not

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<v Speaker 1>know that. I'm glad he knows my age. Alan McKnight said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you did not know he played for Bradford, how

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<v Speaker 1>can you talk about rugby league? So that is the

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<v Speaker 1>measure John, So everybody, if you want to be known

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<v Speaker 1>as well known at rugby league, you need to know

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Peacock played for Bradford and left them twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. I mean I don't know about you but

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<v Speaker 1>I've done a few things since then, John, including to

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the world. And I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Peacock playing for Bradford. I just forgot in that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I've read most of his book written by

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<v Speaker 2>previous guest, and he started his career Bradford and one

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<v Speaker 2>several trophies. Beerfore maybe on the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know about you. I don't walk around

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<v Speaker 1>thinking everything about twenty one years ago all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, clearly you need to think more about Jamie Peacock.

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<v Speaker 2>You're yeah, you've lost your wife.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I know a guy called Luke Thompson. I

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<v Speaker 1>assume he's not the proper place for Wigan. Wrote sent

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<v Speaker 1>me an email John about our pod. He said, all right, mate,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you start. That's how you say it in Manchester.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if it's from Manchester. Just listen

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<v Speaker 1>to your Super League three sixty pod about the RFL

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<v Speaker 1>taking over the NCL. Just wanted to put my point

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<v Speaker 1>across as someone who played it, played in it for

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<v Speaker 1>nearly twenty years, retired now at thirty six, but played

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<v Speaker 1>up until last season at houl Dockers. The top two

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<v Speaker 1>divisions are thriving in the in the NCL and the

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<v Speaker 1>RFL have kept these two divisions as national. They've replaced

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<v Speaker 1>NCL two and three with regional divisions, which for me

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense if I was thirty playing with a young fan,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a lot easier, less travel and not

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<v Speaker 1>full days away, even though we love them. Since amateur

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<v Speaker 1>rugby league changed for some of there has been a

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<v Speaker 1>years there's been a lot of games called off and

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<v Speaker 1>points deductions due to teams traveling from say Hull to

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<v Speaker 1>Cumbria with twelve players. And it works out it's a

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<v Speaker 1>cheaper to bay the vine than for the bus and

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<v Speaker 1>it says for me in the NCL lower leagues it

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<v Speaker 1>makes perfectly sense to regionalize them hopefully keeps participate as

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<v Speaker 1>participation up. Unless games called off, you can still get

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<v Speaker 1>promoted to NCL via a playoff. To be fair, the

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<v Speaker 1>RFL they do send out questionnaires to NCL players and

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<v Speaker 1>coaches at the end of every season. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>help with it. A lot of players I've spoken to

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<v Speaker 1>are thirty plus and love the idea. Can drive to

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<v Speaker 1>Leeds from Hull and still play or to cast etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Just wanted to put a point across to support it.

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<v Speaker 1>Really keep up the good work. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>great that guy, that guy first of all, excellent points

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about things making head of communications at the RFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Please because that's more than you've heard from the RFL

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<v Speaker 1>I think as to why. So yeah, that's really good

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<v Speaker 1>context from him. I really appreciate and like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, get in touch with me at Rugby

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<v Speaker 1>Lee coach on the Socials and admin at Rugbyley Coach email.

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<v Speaker 1>John's journalist at something but was it.

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<v Speaker 2>Journalist dog John Davidson at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Salford had their first game last week, So for those

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know Salford, the old club went defunct and

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<v Speaker 1>like following Donald Trump. Really in the morning you're ready

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<v Speaker 1>to end it all. By the afternoon what was all

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<v Speaker 1>the fuss about? And it was a bit like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Today Salford were folded. The High Court folded them and

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<v Speaker 1>then and then in the afternoon there was a few

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a very good event in so well

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<v Speaker 1>on the outskirts of Salford. I should say when they

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<v Speaker 1>played Oldham in their first game last week, John.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was there to see a bit of history

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<v Speaker 2>made forty four nil to Oldham, which look, when you

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<v Speaker 2>consider everything that's gone on, Salford was still recruiting players,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a day or two before I think they

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<v Speaker 2>I've got quite a big budget, a number of ex

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<v Speaker 2>Super League Q Cup players, et cetera. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>the occasion was really important. There was a crowd of

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<v Speaker 2>around five thousand, which is probably more than Salford were

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<v Speaker 2>averaging last year in Super League. It was a really

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<v Speaker 2>a celebration that the club is still going. Obviously it's

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<v Speaker 2>a new club, but that there is a club calling

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<v Speaker 2>itself Salford, and yeah, it was a bit of a party.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a great atmosphere. There was a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a scare when an Oldham fan had a heart attack

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<v Speaker 2>in the first half in the game was stopped for

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty eight minutes. Luckily he seemed to be okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was off to hospital, so you don't see

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<v Speaker 2>that every day. But yeah, it was great to see

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<v Speaker 2>Salford back at it. And look, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a very tough time for them, you know, long season,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not going to win many games, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>it might be five years so they're back in. Say

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<v Speaker 2>the league might be ten, might be twenty, who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're a Salford fan of any age, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a team to support and I think that's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that means a lot more than the winning on the

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think forty four l I mean, compared

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<v Speaker 1>to some of their score lines last year, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a bonus too. Losing forty four nil.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean Oldham sort of took a while

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<v Speaker 2>to get going in the first half. They definitely stepped

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<v Speaker 2>up again in the second, but look it was again

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<v Speaker 2>they're always going to expect to win. Oldham will be well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they finished fourth last year and with the

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<v Speaker 2>three teams leaving the championship, Oldham will be pushing for

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<v Speaker 2>the title. They'll be up there with London and probably

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<v Speaker 2>one or two others. So you know, they did what

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<v Speaker 2>they needed to do, but but you know it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was a Sultord story and yeah, just great to

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<v Speaker 2>see them still go around and obviously wish everyone at

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<v Speaker 2>the club, the owners, the CEO, et cetera, the best

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<v Speaker 2>of luck in the Neeavos and.

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<v Speaker 1>When it was critical of the CEO appointment the other

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<v Speaker 1>week because it was a job for the boys type appointment,

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<v Speaker 1>everything I've seen from the CEO, Ryan Breeley and the

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<v Speaker 1>ownership at Sulfurd looks really good. I can't fault them

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<v Speaker 1>so far. They they're visible, they're they're busy on social media,

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<v Speaker 1>their stuff looks good and they've managed to get a

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<v Speaker 1>crowd of five thousand, so so far, so good. I

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<v Speaker 1>just know it's just going to be a tough rold ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>London had a similar crowd at their home and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk again about London and Johnny's job later.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, positive positive stuff on on the southern end

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<v Speaker 1>of the island, and let's face it, I mean rugby

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<v Speaker 1>league ultra positive. Really, two reborn clubs for different reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>one in the North and one in the South and

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<v Speaker 1>getting more than some superlight clubs get.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite frankly, yeah, definitely, I mean the amount of the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of headlines and traction that London have got, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean ever since down Lockyer and his business partner Grant

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<v Speaker 2>West School took over, has been huge. In the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks. I've got a story which is you

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<v Speaker 2>know you can read online now in the ipaper tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>A feature they've been in The Observer, the Guardian. I

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<v Speaker 2>think down Lockey was on BBC four the other day,

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<v Speaker 2>on Sky Sports today. Yeah, the amount of traction on

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram and Facebook and everything has been huge. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>really really pushing the club, pushing this rebuild, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're making all the right noises. Obviously a

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<v Speaker 2>very good crowd. They've got a documentary being made about

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<v Speaker 2>the club this season, they stream their first game. They've

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<v Speaker 2>got you know, great sponsors, Rebok, Cash Converters come on board.

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<v Speaker 2>They've obviously, you know, got basically a whole new team

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<v Speaker 2>led by Jason Dimitri the former Souse coach, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've got the only full time team in the championship,

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<v Speaker 2>so they should walk that division. So there's lots of positives,

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<v Speaker 2>but look it's the first game. They've got a long

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<v Speaker 2>way to come. But yeah, again, it is a positive story,

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<v Speaker 2>much like Salford and hopefully under under Lockier and the

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<v Speaker 2>new administration there, they can keep building and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really get Rugby League firing in London.

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<v Speaker 1>Will My analysis videos that have done on teams have

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<v Speaker 1>had a habit of influencing what's happened the week after

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<v Speaker 1>at various levels of the game, john including the highest.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I start analyzing the Broncals, maybe the opposition

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<v Speaker 1>will see some weaknesses the connect sploit. That's all I'll say.

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<v Speaker 1>So London should pay me to keep quiet. York came

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<v Speaker 1>from that division and they're preparing for a year in

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<v Speaker 1>Super League. But they've only had one preseason game and

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<v Speaker 1>we're beaten in that. Who did you play?

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<v Speaker 2>I played hardest field on I think it was Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>went down twenty two to four. Look, I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>can look into you can put a lot of value

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<v Speaker 2>in the preseason games or not. At the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, the result doesn't really matter. I was up

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<v Speaker 2>in York last week speaking to Mark Applecarth and the

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<v Speaker 2>owner Clint good Child, and you know, they were very positive,

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<v Speaker 2>confident about the new season, obviously excited. York's never been

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<v Speaker 2>in Super so it is a new market. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's no escape in the fact that it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a hard season for them. They've obviously they've

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<v Speaker 2>they've switched from part time to full time. They've done

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<v Speaker 2>some recruitment, but they don't have the full sky money

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<v Speaker 2>that that all the other clubs except to Loose get.

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<v Speaker 2>They only get I think it's about six hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty pounds instead of the sort of one point three,

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<v Speaker 2>So they aren't, you know, unless they're their owners tip

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<v Speaker 2>in that actually when they can't recruit to the same level.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's going to be, Yeah, it'll be it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>hard for them. But again I think it's it is

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<v Speaker 2>exciting that the new market. Anyone who's been in York

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<v Speaker 2>would probably say it's a fantastic city, you know, very

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<v Speaker 2>big for tourism, and it's a new market for the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's going to be fascinating. They play whole

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<v Speaker 2>Car on their first game, so it's a pretty difficult

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<v Speaker 2>round one. But let's let's see how they go. They

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<v Speaker 2>they dominated the championship last year. They lost the ground

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<v Speaker 2>five to loose, but I finished top, so I think

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<v Speaker 2>they deserve to get their shades.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's listen to that audio now that you recorded

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<v Speaker 1>with your coach, Mark Applegarth.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean obviously you can talk. You can talk, you

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<v Speaker 2>can talk about the new BAB if you want or

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<v Speaker 2>leave that out, but obviously yeah, yeah, I mean obviously congrct.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not a lot of sleep, but you're prepared for

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<v Speaker 2>a new season. It's another exciting thing for no.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, obviously welcome the new edition in absolutely come out

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<v Speaker 5>a good time.

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<v Speaker 6>Forfault season, miss any game, Yeah exactly, But yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 6>pre seasons, pre season.

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<v Speaker 5>I think every coach will be same at moment. You

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you're getting into your squad, how you want

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<v Speaker 5>to play, what you want to be perceived about, and

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<v Speaker 5>the main thing is getting everyone fit and firing and

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<v Speaker 5>connection as a team.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know everyone's applying theirself in a great manner.

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<v Speaker 5>And we're at that stage of preseason now where everyone's

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<v Speaker 5>just ready for the games to begin and and begin

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<v Speaker 5>that journey of the twenty twenty sixth season.

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<v Speaker 2>You said before that I guess having that one only

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<v Speaker 2>one preseason game, I guess explain that because sometimes will

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<v Speaker 2>had three, sometimes will have two. I guess you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to think you're the only one Superage had one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, As I said, I've done preseason in the past,

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<v Speaker 5>well we've had three or four, and I mean last

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<v Speaker 7>End.

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<v Speaker 5>Personally, I just I like to build up throughout the year,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think with all tough the sport is these days,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, if you if you're looking at your top

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<v Speaker 5>twenty two to twenty three players, I think one of.

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<v Speaker 4>Two games is probably, in my opinion, all you need.

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<v Speaker 5>We've been training tough, and we've been you know, we've

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<v Speaker 5>been doing what we need there and I think naturally

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<v Speaker 5>you want to see him in the competitive element, which

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<v Speaker 5>preseason friendly will bring against an opposition that don't know

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<v Speaker 5>your calls, and then what sort of shape you're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>you're gonna pull in that so there'll be a good

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<v Speaker 5>run out for for us on Saturday versus we just

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<v Speaker 5>field you know, and they're not.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got the.

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<v Speaker 5>Challenge Cup before the whole Car game in round one,

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<v Speaker 5>so you know, I think that's a sufficient build up

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<v Speaker 5>for us leading into our amazing Super League season.

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<v Speaker 2>And you've got that home game against who are start

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<v Speaker 2>season be a massive game trouble winners, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the reports were hold one of the easier.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you fast?

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<v Speaker 4>You play every team twice exactly?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I think it's a bit of a defeated

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<v Speaker 5>stattitude if you if you're already worrying about that sort

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<v Speaker 5>of jazz. You know, we we've been banging the drum

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<v Speaker 5>to being super League now, you know, ever since I've

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<v Speaker 5>come to the club, and.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we feel we belong there. If we belong there,

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<v Speaker 4>then it doesn't matter who you play, does it. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we enjoy that challenge.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, book Cars the standard bearers at the moment.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought they had a fantastic year last year. Obviously

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<v Speaker 5>good mates were Willy to you know, and then speaking

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<v Speaker 5>to Willie Anam, he's got the healthier respect for our

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<v Speaker 5>team and we've got a healthy respect for ok Are

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<v Speaker 5>And as I say, we're really looking forward to locking

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<v Speaker 5>ons with round one.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, as I say, every week made the

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<v Speaker 4>best team win on on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Day and your team is obviously going to be very

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<v Speaker 2>keen to for that game, which is also a good

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<v Speaker 2>prep for them to find the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's I mean, we're both We've only got the

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<v Speaker 5>Super League and the Challenge Cup to look forward to,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and then OKRs in a bit of a

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<v Speaker 5>different format to us that they've got to make sure

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<v Speaker 5>that the peaking for that World Club Challenge as well

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<v Speaker 5>are there, so you know, let's not be around the bucks.

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<v Speaker 5>They'll be looking at us as a as a stepping

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<v Speaker 5>stone to Brisbane, you know, and we'll be wanting to

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<v Speaker 5>set our town for the season by you know, putting

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<v Speaker 5>in the great performance against the car.

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<v Speaker 2>And York in Super guess people expect.

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<v Speaker 5>We just want to give the city a team that

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<v Speaker 5>the brother John you know, I'd love to see here

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<v Speaker 5>telling you that we're going to be a good season,

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<v Speaker 5>is going to be winning the treble.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>We just want to give the City of York team

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<v Speaker 5>that they're proud to get me outed every week and listen,

421
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<v Speaker 5>there's going to be some fantastic eyes this year, you know,

422
00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:11.079
<v Speaker 5>and I'm.

423
00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:13.680
<v Speaker 4>Sure there's going to be a few super punches as

424
00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:14.640
<v Speaker 4>well that are going to hurt.

425
00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:18.240
<v Speaker 5>And I'm just looking forward to locking arms with some

426
00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:20.039
<v Speaker 5>of the best teams in Email and then sure that

427
00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:21.000
<v Speaker 5>you'll belong there.

428
00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:23.319
<v Speaker 4>It's as simple as that, you know, we we want

429
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<v Speaker 4>to be a Super League team for a long time

430
00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:25.279
<v Speaker 4>to come.

431
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<v Speaker 5>And you know, we're just really relishing the challenge every

432
00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:30.160
<v Speaker 5>week of I'm suring.

433
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<v Speaker 7>What we can do.

434
00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:33.680
<v Speaker 2>And obviously you experience at Wakefield, Yeah, you've coached at

435
00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:37.640
<v Speaker 2>that level before, a big learning experience. I guess the numeralis.

436
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:40.359
<v Speaker 2>But that will doubly help you because you've you know,

437
00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:42.799
<v Speaker 2>you've been in an environment and you know what to expect.

438
00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:45.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, i'd probably say I learn. You learn more about

439
00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:48.759
<v Speaker 5>yourself in phases of adversity, don't you. Then you do.

440
00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:50.799
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how many games with one last year

441
00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:53.759
<v Speaker 5>than in periods like that. You know, we say all

442
00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:56.880
<v Speaker 5>along it's a statistic character. I'd like to think that

443
00:23:56.960 --> 00:23:59.920
<v Speaker 5>I have myself in a in a really positive manner,

444
00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:01.599
<v Speaker 5>you know, for myself when I can look in the

445
00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:04.559
<v Speaker 5>mirror that I knew I stayed true to my own character.

446
00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:07.480
<v Speaker 5>And as you've just said, there are some really valuable

447
00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:11.480
<v Speaker 5>learning lessons. And you know, every every season is different

448
00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:14.359
<v Speaker 5>for different things. Obviously that year at Wayfield or a

449
00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:17.400
<v Speaker 5>stadium getting built, and you know, limit a budget on

450
00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:21.240
<v Speaker 5>certain things. And I've walked into York and he's got

451
00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:24.559
<v Speaker 5>a fantastic, facilly, fantastic training ground and.

452
00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:29.640
<v Speaker 4>Fantastic old Yeah, very humble and.

453
00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:35.440
<v Speaker 5>You know, a different text circumstances completely and you know

454
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<v Speaker 5>I'm not one for reading headlines, and all I do

455
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:43.319
<v Speaker 5>know is that Clint's provided the best back in that

456
00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:46.039
<v Speaker 5>we can for our maiden year in Super League, and

457
00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:47.559
<v Speaker 5>that's all we can ask for him.

458
00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:49.599
<v Speaker 4>We'll be doing everything we can every week.

459
00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:51.799
<v Speaker 5>To to go out there and make this city proud

460
00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:53.359
<v Speaker 5>that they've got teenior super League.

461
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<v Speaker 1>How do you you're back with Lee John on Super

462
00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>League three sixty? Is that vodka? John? No, it's just

463
00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:11.119
<v Speaker 1>water tonight. In terms of their result in the trial,

464
00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>in the friendly match, I think friendlies as they call

465
00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:18.519
<v Speaker 1>them in England, trials as to call them in Australia.

466
00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>They can mask so many things. I remember once coaching

467
00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:26.039
<v Speaker 1>a Manly See eagle side in a trial two weeks

468
00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:28.640
<v Speaker 1>before the competition and we got beat ten tries to one.

469
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Played the same opposition in round one and beat them

470
00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>sixteen ten or something. So trials are different because if

471
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<v Speaker 1>you get a player with a little niggle, you teck

472
00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:46.839
<v Speaker 1>them off the field. Your trial, different combinations. There sometimes

473
00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:50.839
<v Speaker 1>isn't even goalkicks, so that even that's different. Also, the

474
00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:53.920
<v Speaker 1>interchange rules are different. You can bring fresh interchanges on

475
00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>all the time. So yeah, look, York shouldn't worry too

476
00:25:58.079 --> 00:25:59.839
<v Speaker 1>much about the result of that game. What they do

477
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.599
<v Speaker 1>need to do all things considered, though, is they need

478
00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>to start the season really well. So they need to

479
00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:08.039
<v Speaker 1>get a few wins up early. They need to be

480
00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:11.880
<v Speaker 1>about fifty percent I think by round four or five

481
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:15.160
<v Speaker 1>or six, Round four five or six or should that

482
00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.039
<v Speaker 1>be six seven, round six seven, I don't know. And

483
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:24.559
<v Speaker 1>if they are fifty per win record about round six,

484
00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>they there's a good chance they won't finish bottom of

485
00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the ladder. Now I don't know. How do we know

486
00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:32.559
<v Speaker 1>how important it is not to finish at the bottom

487
00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:36.279
<v Speaker 1>of the ladder yet, well, you would be league the

488
00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:38.440
<v Speaker 1>only sport in the world where nobody knows the rules

489
00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:40.559
<v Speaker 1>before thee it is.

490
00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Going to be the IMG system again, so obviously on

491
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:46.640
<v Speaker 2>film performance is an element, but it's not the only element. Look,

492
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I think a successful season for York will be not

493
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:49.920
<v Speaker 2>finishing bottom.

494
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:50.119
<v Speaker 7>Bye.

495
00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:52.680
<v Speaker 2>I think that'll be in the more than four Now

496
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:57.759
<v Speaker 2>they may not be, but yeah, they're an unknown quality

497
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:01.000
<v Speaker 2>match like really to lose and brad I mean Bradford

498
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:03.039
<v Speaker 2>haven't been the super League I think for ten years

499
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:05.960
<v Speaker 2>to Louse had a single season a couple of years ago,

500
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:09.680
<v Speaker 2>but it is I think people probably underestimate the jump

501
00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:13.640
<v Speaker 2>from part time a full time all from Championship super

502
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:15.720
<v Speaker 2>League and the two clubs that have done it most

503
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:18.920
<v Speaker 2>successfully in recent years have been Wakefield and Lee, and

504
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:22.119
<v Speaker 2>that's because they've both basically had a lot of money

505
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:23.680
<v Speaker 2>and recruited strongly.

506
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 1>And super League Before.

507
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Wakefield, Wakefield had been in Super League for a long

508
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:32.519
<v Speaker 2>long time, obviously had a new owner come in, pumped

509
00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:34.880
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of money, new new stands, et cetera.

510
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:37.680
<v Speaker 2>And Lee had sort of yo yo, but you know,

511
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:41.400
<v Speaker 2>had really recruited a lot of players. You know, got

512
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:43.599
<v Speaker 2>in Adrian Lamb as a great coach, Chris Chester as

513
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.119
<v Speaker 2>director of rugby, and had that kind of infrastructure around.

514
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:51.319
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it definitely takes money as well as experience too.

515
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>On one of the anomalies I've seen in the Super

516
00:27:54.799 --> 00:28:00.200
<v Speaker 1>League competition is because their pre season is essentially one

517
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.880
<v Speaker 1>month shorter than the NRL one possibly six weeks if

518
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:08.039
<v Speaker 1>you really want to get into the nitty gritty and

519
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:13.319
<v Speaker 1>measure it is ultimately athletic development and recuperation isn't the

520
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:16.279
<v Speaker 1>same in Super League Okay, so every year that happens.

521
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:23.160
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't help the English footballers full stop. But what

522
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:26.400
<v Speaker 1>it does mean is that teams go into the preseason

523
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 1>with different levels of conditioning, different levels of fitness, and

524
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:35.519
<v Speaker 1>some of them go in undercooked because they try and

525
00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:37.599
<v Speaker 1>build it up as the year goes on, because they've

526
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:42.279
<v Speaker 1>got better at managing this truncated this long sorry, this

527
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>long season that ends sometime in twenty twenty nine, not

528
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>sorry in October. And therefore you when teams look at

529
00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 1>the Super League sides in the next couple of weeks,

530
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:00.160
<v Speaker 1>particularly at Wigan because they have the hoop jerseys, make

531
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.079
<v Speaker 1>it look worse. Sometimes the players look a bit heavy

532
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:05.319
<v Speaker 1>in the early rounds of Super League and it's literally

533
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>because they're at different stages of their conditioning and because

534
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:11.519
<v Speaker 1>it's not that much time in the off season to

535
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>do it. And what will happen is if your are

536
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>in a good place conditioning wise, they've got to really

537
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>target some of these early fixtures to try and get

538
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:27.400
<v Speaker 1>some what we would occur what we would categorize as

539
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>shot results, right, and that if you have looked at

540
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the history of Super League, that happens sometimes, I mean,

541
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>do you remember the opening round last year, Lee played

542
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:38.839
<v Speaker 1>Wigan and the score was two nil or something, and

543
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought they played one nil. I thought they played soccer.

544
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>And that's because they've probably not done as much ballwork

545
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>as they should have done, not done as much work

546
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>on their combinations and skill levels. They're just you know,

547
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:55.279
<v Speaker 1>they're essentially halfway through the preseason and the season starts

548
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:58.519
<v Speaker 1>so and you've got to give players rest too. So

549
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>this is something that York can capitalize on. And if

550
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>they're in a state of readiness, particularly in the fixtures

551
00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>against the likes of Bradford, Huddersfield, Castleford, anybody who's been

552
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:13.359
<v Speaker 1>in those lower reaches, if they can target them, they

553
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>could end up getting themselves in a really good place

554
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>by round six, round seven, round eight. I don't know

555
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>who they play, but if they can get into a

556
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:24.759
<v Speaker 1>good place when the year gets tough for them, they'll

557
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:27.000
<v Speaker 1>have some points in the in the bank. And that's

558
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:29.839
<v Speaker 1>what you've got to look for. Another director departs of

559
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:32.559
<v Speaker 1>the RFL. As I mentioned in the pre amble, who's

560
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>this director that's left and how many are left? And

561
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>they're a mess, aren't they? Yeah?

562
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:41.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's it's the director of people in culture,

563
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:44.559
<v Speaker 2>so a victorious and nicol As you've been there about

564
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:49.680
<v Speaker 2>five years. Yeah, I mean, I think the governments of

565
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:52.960
<v Speaker 2>the RFL and the kind of the culture at the

566
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:57.039
<v Speaker 2>organization there's been under criticism, under attack, everyone to put

567
00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:01.039
<v Speaker 2>up for quite some time. She's sort of the latest

568
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 2>in a in a long line of departures from the

569
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Speaker 2>governing body. Obviously the CEO, Tony Sutton left in September.

570
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 2>There's been numerous other people. The head of media, Andy

571
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 2>Wilson left after the ashes. Obviously, Sean Wayne was left

572
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:20.200
<v Speaker 2>more recently, and I understand there's been other you know,

573
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:22.720
<v Speaker 2>more junior staff as well, in the kind of logistics

574
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.079
<v Speaker 2>in the in the events team. So it's not been

575
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:28.240
<v Speaker 2>a great well, it's not been a great eight months

576
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:30.039
<v Speaker 2>of the RFL has it looked. Let's be honest, when

577
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.480
<v Speaker 2>you look at the chairman being forced out and then

578
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:36.200
<v Speaker 2>a whole board you know, other directors quitting and a

579
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:41.160
<v Speaker 2>whole board sort of effectively having to be rebuilt, and

580
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:45.039
<v Speaker 2>you know the sporting Sport England questioning the governments and

581
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>saying you know you need to do this, this and this.

582
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's another it's another sort of worrying thing

583
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:55.240
<v Speaker 2>at the RFL and who are looking for a new

584
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:57.680
<v Speaker 2>CEO and a new chairman. And whether we get you know,

585
00:31:57.799 --> 00:31:59.599
<v Speaker 2>the same old faces that we generally get, or we

586
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:03.599
<v Speaker 2>get new people with new ideas, we shall see. But yeah,

587
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:07.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean usually these things painting out here you would expect.

588
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think there's any problem with the

589
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>RFL doing a clean out, and whatever they're doing, I'm

590
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>going to hold judgment a little bit. It depends what

591
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 1>comes now. So they've changed the fall back of the competitions.

592
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>People have been cleaned out one way or the other

593
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:33.839
<v Speaker 1>by their own choice or by being pushed. Well, that's

594
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:36.759
<v Speaker 1>all well and good. That's all well and good. Let's

595
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:42.160
<v Speaker 1>see if it's better now. And the big stain on

596
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the RFL for me is England got beat three nil

597
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>quite significantly in the Ashes. At the same time, we're

598
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:56.880
<v Speaker 1>announcing fourteen teams in Super League, not twelve, bringing three

599
00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:00.480
<v Speaker 1>new sides in a couple of teams don't get the

600
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:07.319
<v Speaker 1>same funding and the overseas allowance goes up to ten players.

601
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:11.519
<v Speaker 1>So they can't, on one hand say they want England

602
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>to be successful, on the other hands, say we're going

603
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:16.519
<v Speaker 1>to allow more Australians, New Zealand as papping New Guineans

604
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and Tim Bucktooons into the Super League. So I think

605
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:24.039
<v Speaker 1>what it is, John is we've seen this movie before.

606
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:28.039
<v Speaker 1>We know, we know some of these things probably aren't

607
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>going to be great, but it's probably pertinent for us

608
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:37.799
<v Speaker 1>to just you know, let's see how to go. But yeah,

609
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>talking of England, Brad Arthur seems interested in the England job,

610
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>or is he? Yeah?

611
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Look, I think it'd be briiner for Brad to to

612
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:50.279
<v Speaker 2>apply and put his hand.

613
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Up for every job lately. Yeah, well, you know he's

614
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:57.559
<v Speaker 1>not like Leeds, is it not like that city?

615
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.319
<v Speaker 2>I think he likes Leeds. But look, we said this

616
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:04.880
<v Speaker 2>in the in the last podcast. It's an attractive job

617
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:09.199
<v Speaker 2>coaching England, you know at a World Cup. You know,

618
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to be a short term of

619
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:16.119
<v Speaker 2>appointment and he'd be well placed to you know, he's

620
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:17.719
<v Speaker 2>got a foot in both camps and then he's had

621
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:21.559
<v Speaker 2>a huge amount of NROL experience and also Super League

622
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:22.920
<v Speaker 2>experience now for the last two years.

623
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:27.159
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think he'd be a good change. This

624
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>leads me into the next section. Media watch and Willie

625
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Peters was soon named as the favorite, wasn't it for

626
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:38.639
<v Speaker 1>the for the England job? And then a few places

627
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>ran the story of Barry McDermott picking his coach for England.

628
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:48.400
<v Speaker 1>He wanted Brian his namesake, no relation. What they all

629
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>omitted from their places though, was the fact that he's

630
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.679
<v Speaker 1>a former Island international. So I had a little giggle

631
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<v Speaker 1>at this, because you know, Barry is very much entitled

632
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:02.840
<v Speaker 1>to past opinion on whoever he wants to be the

633
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>coach of anything. And also he's a Sky Sports punned it,

634
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's an old teammate of McDermott in the past,

635
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.599
<v Speaker 1>I think, or foe. He is also a friend of

636
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:19.280
<v Speaker 1>mine Barry. But and he made a great case. But

637
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 1>the football equivalent, the soccer equivalent, would be Roy Keane

638
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>passing opinion and being pumped everywhere in the news and

639
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:34.119
<v Speaker 1>saying I want my mate, I don't know, Gary Neville

640
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>to be the coach of England, like it's None of

641
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:41.519
<v Speaker 1>them mentioned the fact that Barry actually played for Ireland. However,

642
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:45.239
<v Speaker 1>little known fact, John, did you know he played for England?

643
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 2>I would have presumed he played for England and Great Britain.

644
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>He did play for Great Britain, significantly, and I think,

645
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I think what what tickled me? And the reason I've

646
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.119
<v Speaker 1>sort of put this in is it goes back to this, Yes,

647
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>because Barry played for Great Britain. Many people have run

648
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>this story and ignore the facts he played for Ireland

649
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:17.199
<v Speaker 1>and this is an England team, and people just interchange

650
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 1>the two whenever it suits them, England and Great Britain,

651
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:20.559
<v Speaker 1>don't they.

652
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:25.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, I think, not knowing explicitly, but

653
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I think Barry probably considering himself an Englishman with Irish heritage.

654
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know, he did play for Ireland a

655
00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:36.880
<v Speaker 1>number of times. He played for England in one of

656
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:40.280
<v Speaker 1>two games in the nineteen ninety six European Championships and

657
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:43.199
<v Speaker 1>played off the bench in their thirty fourteen win over

658
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:46.159
<v Speaker 1>Whales or they want anyway. One player said it was

659
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:49.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty four to fourteen and they said thirty four. So yeah,

660
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>he did play for England. But that was a time

661
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:56.760
<v Speaker 1>when England was almost seen as the reserve side for

662
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:02.159
<v Speaker 1>Great Britain basically, or the not the same side. Wayne

663
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:05.159
<v Speaker 1>Bennett suggested that Sam Burgess and James Graham package, and

664
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:10.079
<v Speaker 1>then Graham backpedaled a bit and actually also anointed Brian McDermott,

665
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>and I think Sam Burgess is trying to distance himself

666
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>a little bit from a job too. John.

667
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think I think we did speak

668
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:20.800
<v Speaker 2>about this, and yeah, I think Sam Burgers would be

669
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 2>a good grinding an assistant role, but look the job.

670
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:26.519
<v Speaker 2>He's got a massive job on his hands at Warrenton

671
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:28.679
<v Speaker 2>and he was very close to getting sacked last year,

672
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:32.159
<v Speaker 2>so I don't think it would look good, at least

673
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:34.159
<v Speaker 2>publicly if he was out there saying, look, I want

674
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.719
<v Speaker 2>the England job, Give me the England job, because his

675
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 2>track record after two seasons at Warrington's not crash hot.

676
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:43.199
<v Speaker 2>He had a great first year, but the second year

677
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:47.239
<v Speaker 2>was was pretty bad. So yeah, let's let's see how

678
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:49.840
<v Speaker 2>he gets on with the Wolves in twenty twenty six.

679
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh, somebody has started on me on Facebook too. Mark

680
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:58.679
<v Speaker 1>r d says, let me just this is this is

681
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:04.280
<v Speaker 1>hot off the press. The clip when's the last time

682
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.320
<v Speaker 1>you saw a play? Oh bull? And then and then

683
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:13.400
<v Speaker 1>a emoji of a turd? God know what you are watching?

684
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>All right?

685
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:18.760
<v Speaker 3>That was.

686
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:27.559
<v Speaker 2>He's got some great face. And then.

687
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>On another video he went, wow, so insightful. I'm going

688
00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>to reply to him just like you are. Was it

689
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Kipling who was a great writer, It was, you're right

690
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:49.800
<v Speaker 1>like Kipling there, you know, he'd be like what you

691
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>went to the Leaderino's media day and we've got some

692
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.800
<v Speaker 1>audio of that while playing a moment. But they're at

693
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:57.920
<v Speaker 1>risk of losing players to the n r L, or

694
00:38:57.960 --> 00:38:59.119
<v Speaker 1>they have lost some players to.

695
00:38:59.119 --> 00:38:59.760
<v Speaker 2>The n r L.

696
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:00.679
<v Speaker 1>Get mixed up.

697
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:05.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, obviously morgan gannon will be turning out for

698
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:07.239
<v Speaker 2>the Warriors this year next year.

699
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>He's gone this year, not next year.

700
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, morgan gannon will be fine for the Warriors

701
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:16.079
<v Speaker 2>in what a month or so. They've lost James McDonald

702
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:21.000
<v Speaker 2>and Harry Newman to Perth for twenty twenty seven and

703
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I know Jared O'Connor has got two NRL clubs who

704
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:27.280
<v Speaker 2>are very interested in him. He's obviously off contract that

705
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Leads at the end of this year. It's quite surprising,

706
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:33.599
<v Speaker 2>considering his performances for Leeds and how long he's been

707
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:36.719
<v Speaker 2>the club that they haven't tied him down before now.

708
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.639
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there's a bit of competition for him. I

709
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:42.320
<v Speaker 2>think Person one of the clubs that are in for

710
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:46.679
<v Speaker 2>Jared O'Connor. But my inclination is that he will probably

711
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:51.119
<v Speaker 2>stay in Leeds. He's had a baby, well, his partner

712
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:53.400
<v Speaker 2>had a baby last year. I think he's pretty happy

713
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:57.360
<v Speaker 2>at Leeds. But yeah, the NRL clubs are definitely you know,

714
00:39:57.559 --> 00:39:59.559
<v Speaker 2>smelling some blood in the water with the Rhinos and

715
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:01.519
<v Speaker 2>they're getting a bit decimated.

716
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Jared's propaganda machine remainds were just like that of his

717
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:11.599
<v Speaker 1>father twenty odd years ago. Don't worry, So I'll say,

718
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:15.639
<v Speaker 1>I'll I'll tell, I'll tell the same. So a lad's

719
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:17.760
<v Speaker 1>going to be challenges this year next year or is

720
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:18.639
<v Speaker 1>it rebuild time?

721
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:21.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, I think I think there will be challenges

722
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:23.599
<v Speaker 2>this year. Look, they've got a they've got a good team.

723
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:27.079
<v Speaker 2>They should have been in the I guess what you

724
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.400
<v Speaker 2>would call the preliminary follow last year they just had

725
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:33.440
<v Speaker 2>that brain explosion at the end against Helen's. So I

726
00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:36.840
<v Speaker 2>think that will be there and thereabouts, probably in the

727
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:40.400
<v Speaker 2>top three four. I don't know if they're good enough

728
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:44.119
<v Speaker 2>to knock off Hulk or Wigan in a in a final,

729
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:47.960
<v Speaker 2>but I look, if Jake Connor has the kind of

730
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:50.639
<v Speaker 2>year that he had last year, you know with Brodie Croft,

731
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.199
<v Speaker 2>they've got you know, some good some good backs there,

732
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:58.639
<v Speaker 2>some great forwards, they've definitely you know, and Brad Arthur's

733
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:02.079
<v Speaker 2>really improved them as as a team, so they should.

734
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Be up there. So our intrepid journalist John went to

735
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the Leeds media day. You're going to hear in order

736
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Calum Watkins, Presley Castle, Jared O'Connor and Jeremiah Mattuita. And

737
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 1>for those watching Callum Watkins and Presley Castle is an

738
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.199
<v Speaker 1>audio clip with just a picture of those two players.

739
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:28.199
<v Speaker 1>But Jared O'Connor and Jeremiah Matita. Is that how you say?

740
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:34.599
<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. I'm not sure whether it be Matatia.

741
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:38.079
<v Speaker 2>I like the form over Newcastle and.

742
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Spelling John, the journalists might have spelled it wrong in

743
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:46.599
<v Speaker 1>the message to me, I'm.

744
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Not sallow and so I'm not I'm not sure of

745
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:48.400
<v Speaker 2>the exact pronunciation.

746
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, Jared and Jeremiah they've got videos, so if you're

747
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:53.519
<v Speaker 1>watching on YouTube, you're not going to be looking at

748
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:54.599
<v Speaker 1>playing pictures.

749
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:54.760
<v Speaker 7>All the time.

750
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

751
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:58.840
<v Speaker 1>As a off season, Christmas in a massive, massive view

752
00:41:58.920 --> 00:41:59.159
<v Speaker 1>for you.

753
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:03.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Yeah, it's been good. Nice little break with the kids.

754
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:06.159
<v Speaker 4>And family, which was good, had a good year, enjoyed it.

755
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:06.519
<v Speaker 7>It was.

756
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:10.519
<v Speaker 6>Obviously we're playing in the Ashes as well, didn't think

757
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:13.039
<v Speaker 6>that would happen. So yeah, it was pretty good to

758
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:16.360
<v Speaker 6>go through that and play internationals again, which was great,

759
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:19.519
<v Speaker 6>but to get that time off and spending time in

760
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.119
<v Speaker 6>the family has obviously been the most important.

761
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:22.679
<v Speaker 7>So it's been good.

762
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.360
<v Speaker 2>How do you look back at twenty twelve considering you know,

763
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:27.880
<v Speaker 2>you've I mean, this is a respectful.

764
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Way you've been around the wall, You've changed a.

765
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Lot in your career, You've had a lot of seasons,

766
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:33.280
<v Speaker 2>but what happened at Salford You've come back to lege

767
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:35.360
<v Speaker 2>great form, you're playing in ashes.

768
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like a bit of a rollercoaster.

769
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:41.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it has, and I think sometimes it happens sometimes it's.

770
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:44.519
<v Speaker 8>Part of our sport, you know, at the time, and

771
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:48.519
<v Speaker 8>unfortunately obviously with the Solf the situation which is looking

772
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:50.840
<v Speaker 8>like it's going on up now, which is good and positive,

773
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:53.280
<v Speaker 8>which which I'm really happy with people.

774
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:54.400
<v Speaker 6>That I've gone in there and trying to help the

775
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:56.239
<v Speaker 6>club as best as possible.

776
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:57.480
<v Speaker 7>So I really pleads with that.

777
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.760
<v Speaker 6>And obviously the year was obviously obviously up and down

778
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:03.360
<v Speaker 6>in terms of that and being able to be giving

779
00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:05.360
<v Speaker 6>an opportunity to come here. It was some of that

780
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:07.239
<v Speaker 6>I took with both hands and I had to try

781
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:09.559
<v Speaker 6>and make the most of it because I remember playing

782
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:12.800
<v Speaker 6>them in the first couple of rounds as fought and

783
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.440
<v Speaker 6>you're also playing them before. There's something about this team

784
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:18.840
<v Speaker 6>that can do something special. So I've got given the

785
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:21.880
<v Speaker 6>opportunity to come back or took with both hands, and yeah,

786
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:22.599
<v Speaker 6>I really enjoyed it.

787
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:27.599
<v Speaker 7>It's it's been great, and that's been awesome with his coaching.

788
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.199
<v Speaker 6>And obviously as a gloat and all the lads as

789
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:33.400
<v Speaker 6>well off there played with a few a while back

790
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:36.760
<v Speaker 6>Altous played against them as well, so all great lads

791
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:38.880
<v Speaker 6>and all want to do really well for this club.

792
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:40.440
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, glad to be a part.

793
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Of it as a sulted local.

794
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you must be happy at the club has restarted

795
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:47.039
<v Speaker 2>and there's going to be a presence there and you

796
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 2>know for all the next Calum Watkins's and the kids

797
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:52.320
<v Speaker 2>in a local area can have a pathway.

798
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.960
<v Speaker 6>Super Yeah, absolutely, and I know it's it's it's early

799
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:58.280
<v Speaker 6>doors is in it. It's going to be some tough

800
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.639
<v Speaker 6>situations that they have to go through and make some

801
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:04.800
<v Speaker 6>tough decisions. But then they spoke about obviously Ryan spoke

802
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.880
<v Speaker 6>about being transparent and being honest and they will certainly

803
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:10.239
<v Speaker 6>give that one hundred percent, and you know the fans

804
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:13.039
<v Speaker 6>will respect that and support them as best as you can.

805
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:15.719
<v Speaker 6>You know, it's a it's a great bunch of fans

806
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:17.519
<v Speaker 6>that are really passionate about their club.

807
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:20.320
<v Speaker 7>And I've been a part of that as a.

808
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Young kid as well, have been through ups and downs

809
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:22.599
<v Speaker 1>as well, So.

810
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:26.880
<v Speaker 6>I'm so glad that there's something there in place that

811
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:29.519
<v Speaker 6>they can that they can push forward with and there's

812
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:32.480
<v Speaker 6>a lot of positivity there. And they've got the game

813
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:35.079
<v Speaker 6>on the on the Friday night and I'll be there

814
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:35.800
<v Speaker 6>supporting as well.

815
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:37.280
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, it'll be excited to go.

816
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.199
<v Speaker 2>And looking back at the Rhinos, I just passing Ryan

817
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:42.199
<v Speaker 2>they I think you and him are probably the last

818
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:46.440
<v Speaker 2>of the Golden Yeah, it must be, you know, yeah,

819
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:48.400
<v Speaker 2>I guess you can pass on that. You and him

820
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:50.960
<v Speaker 2>can pass on that lineage to that that's next crop.

821
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:53.000
<v Speaker 2>And there's a lot of exciting young players coming through.

822
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:57.639
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, especially here, it's it's massive. You know, everyone's coming

823
00:44:57.679 --> 00:44:59.360
<v Speaker 6>in full time as well or of the academy. My

824
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.920
<v Speaker 6>lads are playing, are playing and coming in full time

825
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 6>and training and you know they're getting our experience from

826
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:06.559
<v Speaker 6>those guys and they're getting pushed by the coaches at

827
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:08.719
<v Speaker 6>the same time we did, you know, back then. So

828
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:12.239
<v Speaker 6>the likes of me and Harlick and obviously give them

829
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:14.920
<v Speaker 6>that kind of advice and experience that that we go

830
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:17.000
<v Speaker 6>through because we're all doing the same things. We all

831
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:20.119
<v Speaker 6>training and pushing ourselves hard. It's about doing the little

832
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:23.559
<v Speaker 6>things and you know, you know, to talking, you know,

833
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:26.400
<v Speaker 6>talking with your actions and you know that's something I'll

834
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:27.599
<v Speaker 6>pass on to the younger lads.

835
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 7>And yeah, it's very exciting, isn't it.

836
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:31.440
<v Speaker 6>You know, Chev has done a brilliant job in terms

837
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:34.039
<v Speaker 6>of happy to bring up them their young kids as well,

838
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.679
<v Speaker 6>and some blazes as well as working hard to you know,

839
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:39.000
<v Speaker 6>to to retain them guys and once to get the

840
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:41.079
<v Speaker 6>opportunity here they you know, you know, they can make

841
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:43.239
<v Speaker 6>the most of it. But the fact that they're in

842
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:45.599
<v Speaker 6>their full time road now put something the best place

843
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:48.039
<v Speaker 6>to to when they do get the opportunity, they're ready.

844
00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:50.800
<v Speaker 2>And for lads, I mean, looking back at the end

845
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:54.199
<v Speaker 2>of that season and she put it to bed, but

846
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:58.639
<v Speaker 2>what happened, Helen's you know, absolutely crazy ending. It was

847
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:00.840
<v Speaker 2>a good season for the club. That imagine everyone was

848
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:03.079
<v Speaker 2>still kind of what the hell happened in that last

849
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:05.239
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes and yeah, you know you were you were

850
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:07.039
<v Speaker 2>two games from going final.

851
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was.

852
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:10.280
<v Speaker 6>And I think that's just a learning, I guess, a

853
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:14.639
<v Speaker 6>learning from the group. You know, the way we play

854
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:18.719
<v Speaker 6>is it's very exciting, and I know it's bringing the

855
00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:19.239
<v Speaker 6>best out of.

856
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:20.800
<v Speaker 7>The players that we've got on the team.

857
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.719
<v Speaker 6>And you know that we can be be anyone on

858
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:26.599
<v Speaker 6>our day and when we are playing hard to beat,

859
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:29.960
<v Speaker 6>and then that's what we're want to be known for. So, yeah,

860
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:33.719
<v Speaker 6>he was obviously devastating losing that game, but we've had

861
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:36.639
<v Speaker 6>to put that to bed straight away. And we did

862
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:39.360
<v Speaker 6>that coming into pre season, which is which is good,

863
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:42.400
<v Speaker 6>and we addressed it and they'll put it to bed now.

864
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:44.480
<v Speaker 6>And it's a new journey in a new season now,

865
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:47.960
<v Speaker 6>So something that we're really looking forward to and looking

866
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 6>forward to get stuck into.

867
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:50.880
<v Speaker 2>And you look, you're looking back at last year in

868
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.079
<v Speaker 2>the squad that you have, it seems like you guys

869
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:55.320
<v Speaker 2>can be really challenges this year up there with the

870
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:58.239
<v Speaker 2>whole guys and the Wiggins and yet really pushed for trophies.

871
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:00.679
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and that's that's the game. I think that for

872
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:02.119
<v Speaker 7>every club. That's the game to get to.

873
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:06.639
<v Speaker 6>To fight for silverware, to play for and to win

874
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:08.920
<v Speaker 6>silver air and to be successful as a team and

875
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:10.480
<v Speaker 6>then as a group. And you you've got to go

876
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:14.239
<v Speaker 6>through journeys, You've got to go through you know, different

877
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:15.920
<v Speaker 6>adversities through through the season.

878
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:20.280
<v Speaker 7>It's a new year. It's it's an opportunity for us

879
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 7>to get better and better as a group.

880
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:24.559
<v Speaker 6>And I would say every team is going to get

881
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:26.880
<v Speaker 6>better from that, and then the teams that come up

882
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:29.119
<v Speaker 6>as well, they're going to provide a big challenge as well.

883
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:34.000
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, it's it's exciting for for for super League

884
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:35.559
<v Speaker 7>and for us.

885
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:38.639
<v Speaker 6>It's just about being the best that we can to

886
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:42.079
<v Speaker 6>movie teams what we're doing training in terms of how

887
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:44.159
<v Speaker 6>we prepare for games and put ourselves in the best

888
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:46.480
<v Speaker 6>mistress position to play at our best and.

889
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:48.599
<v Speaker 7>We'll see how we go from there.

890
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Chat. I guess that last season and got an issue.

891
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Obviously it's massive you making your debut.

892
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how was it?

893
00:47:57.960 --> 00:47:58.159
<v Speaker 7>It was?

894
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:01.360
<v Speaker 9>It was a will window, to be fair, I've said,

895
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:02.920
<v Speaker 9>I said to quite a lot of people that have

896
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:04.800
<v Speaker 9>asked me a similar question that you know at the

897
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:07.079
<v Speaker 9>start of the year, I wouldn't I would never expected

898
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:09.639
<v Speaker 9>to know, to play seven super League games if you

899
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:13.280
<v Speaker 9>have asked me, so you know it was. It was

900
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:15.280
<v Speaker 9>obviously the best shame in my career so far, and

901
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:18.280
<v Speaker 9>you know I'm looking to build on that even further

902
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:21.599
<v Speaker 9>this year to you know, kind of top it. But yeah,

903
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:22.000
<v Speaker 9>I know it was.

904
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:22.920
<v Speaker 4>It was a great year.

905
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:25.159
<v Speaker 2>And what Yeah, I guess what has Brad said about

906
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:27.559
<v Speaker 2>this season coming? You know, what does he expect from you?

907
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:28.679
<v Speaker 2>What had a role?

908
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Does he? Does? He say you're playing?

909
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:32.840
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, well, you know, without putting too much pressure on me.

910
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:35.239
<v Speaker 9>You know, he said that a lot, but you know,

911
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:39.119
<v Speaker 9>he just wants me to get more games. Something about

912
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:41.480
<v Speaker 9>this year, you know, learn from the lads around me,

913
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.239
<v Speaker 9>and I think, you know, taking everything that's being said

914
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:49.679
<v Speaker 9>to us by the coaches, you know, which is which

915
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:51.400
<v Speaker 9>is what I want as well. Ultimately, you know, I

916
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:54.599
<v Speaker 9>don't want to get too far ahead of myself in

917
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:57.679
<v Speaker 9>a sense where you know, you know, I'm letting it

918
00:48:57.719 --> 00:48:59.880
<v Speaker 9>go past me and stuff. So you know, I want

919
00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:02.880
<v Speaker 9>to grounded and I want to learn and play as

920
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:03.920
<v Speaker 9>many games I can the share.

921
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:05.599
<v Speaker 2>I guess it must have been a bit of a

922
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:09.199
<v Speaker 2>world when you know, been eighteen and then you played

923
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:11.920
<v Speaker 2>on TV. Yeah, and I remember I asked Brad about

924
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:14.480
<v Speaker 2>your twenty season and gave you massive wraps.

925
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:15.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's really impressed with you.

926
00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I guess that transition from academy and reserves to

927
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:20.519
<v Speaker 2>super League geah.

928
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.039
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's you know I thought at the time, you know,

929
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:27.119
<v Speaker 9>it was it was a big step up, you know,

930
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:29.360
<v Speaker 9>looking back at it was it was easier than I

931
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:32.360
<v Speaker 9>thought because you know, I had the right lads around me, Yeah,

932
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:35.159
<v Speaker 9>the right coaching staff, and I think I was in

933
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:38.719
<v Speaker 9>the right environment and team, you know, so I am

934
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:42.440
<v Speaker 9>really grateful for that. And you know, the trust that

935
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:45.119
<v Speaker 9>Brad's given me to obviously, like you say, debut at

936
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:48.760
<v Speaker 9>eighteen and then go on to start at eighteen against Okay,

937
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:51.360
<v Speaker 9>you know it's He's given me a lot of trust

938
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:54.280
<v Speaker 9>and faith and that's only given me so much confidence

939
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:56.760
<v Speaker 9>and only done me a world of good.

940
00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:00.920
<v Speaker 2>And your background is it from Bradford original Halifacts right?

941
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:03.880
<v Speaker 2>But you did come through West Balwick, Yes I did, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

942
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.480
<v Speaker 2>growing up with Halifax Fain Lates Fain Branford.

943
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:10.079
<v Speaker 4>Well, I never really.

944
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:13.760
<v Speaker 9>I followed rugby, but I never really supported a team.

945
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

946
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:17.320
<v Speaker 9>What was actually strange, which I don't really tell a

947
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:20.039
<v Speaker 9>lot of people that I have a I've had a

948
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:23.320
<v Speaker 9>relationship with Jake Connor for a while and he used

949
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:27.039
<v Speaker 9>to coach my dad locally, so I kind of when

950
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:29.320
<v Speaker 9>he was that whole, I kind of followed him where

951
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:31.639
<v Speaker 9>he were and then obviously when I grew up and

952
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:34.199
<v Speaker 9>got a little bit older, you know, and then signed

953
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:36.960
<v Speaker 9>here at Leeds, you know, this kind of becomes your

954
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:41.119
<v Speaker 9>home and you know you support these so I would say, yeah,

955
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:42.599
<v Speaker 9>that's how that's how it planned out.

956
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.079
<v Speaker 1>With you with your dad obviously was a good player.

957
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Well I think he is.

958
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:50.199
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I think he's he's a good player. He never

959
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:54.800
<v Speaker 9>made it professionally, just locally, but you know I heard

960
00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:56.960
<v Speaker 9>a lot to him as well. Yeah, you know he's

961
00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:59.400
<v Speaker 9>been massive in my development and my journey, you know,

962
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:00.840
<v Speaker 9>to get to this position that.

963
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:01.320
<v Speaker 4>I am now.

964
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:05.000
<v Speaker 9>So you know, I hearn a lot of a lot

965
00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:07.559
<v Speaker 9>of things. Yeah, And like I said, I wouldn't be

966
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:10.440
<v Speaker 9>in this position without him, So you know, he's been

967
00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:11.639
<v Speaker 9>He's been a great role model.

968
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:13.559
<v Speaker 1>Was that Siddle that he played.

969
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:16.199
<v Speaker 9>For, Yeah, so he played at Civil but majority was

970
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:19.880
<v Speaker 9>of ingden Wurch's my local club where I'm I'm from

971
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:23.440
<v Speaker 9>and lived. So you know, since I were young growing

972
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:26.559
<v Speaker 9>up watching him plays has been massive in my journey

973
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:27.079
<v Speaker 9>in development.

974
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 2>And I imagine he was a big factor in getting

975
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:33.079
<v Speaker 2>you into rugby and obviously teaching you the game.

976
00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:35.800
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, yeah it was you know.

977
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:38.800
<v Speaker 9>He actually he coached me out of Ingden when I

978
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:42.480
<v Speaker 9>was a little bit younger. So you know, we've I've

979
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:44.920
<v Speaker 9>kind of been with him for a long time in

980
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:48.280
<v Speaker 9>terms of rugby, and then when he stepped away, you know,

981
00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:50.920
<v Speaker 9>he kind of made the decision to step away because

982
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:55.760
<v Speaker 9>to help me develop further, you know, because ultimately I

983
00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:58.039
<v Speaker 9>was comfortable under my dad, and I think for me

984
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:00.679
<v Speaker 9>to grow I had to be uncomfortable in a new

985
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:02.320
<v Speaker 9>environment and a new team.

986
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:05.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and he has to be very proud of,

987
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:08.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, what you've achieved so far and the pathway

988
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:09.119
<v Speaker 2>that your own.

989
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:09.320
<v Speaker 7>Now.

990
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:12.440
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you know as all my family, you know, they

991
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:14.920
<v Speaker 9>mean a lot to me. It means so much and

992
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.519
<v Speaker 9>the sacrifice, you know, a lot of things for them,

993
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:20.400
<v Speaker 9>you know, so that I could be in this position.

994
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:25.679
<v Speaker 9>So yeah, I think proud is an understatement. And you know,

995
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:28.199
<v Speaker 9>whatever journey I go on, you know, I definitely like

996
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:29.840
<v Speaker 9>them to be on my side, and.

997
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I know, there's always the terrible headlines and the social media.

998
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:36.280
<v Speaker 2>But your first name, I guess a unique first name.

999
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing it has got nothing to do with Elvis.

1000
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:40.360
<v Speaker 4>I've asked that before.

1001
00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the only stupid as Yeah.

1002
00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:49.599
<v Speaker 9>But it's got all to do with Elvis, surprisingly, So yeah,

1003
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:50.360
<v Speaker 9>it's pretty unique.

1004
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:50.719
<v Speaker 7>I don't think.

1005
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:52.800
<v Speaker 9>I don't figure I really know anyone else called Presley,

1006
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:55.760
<v Speaker 9>So I usually hate when I'm a bit younger, but

1007
00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:56.599
<v Speaker 9>I don't mind, you know.

1008
00:52:56.880 --> 00:52:59.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, well it makes you stand out. Yeah, yeah,

1009
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Jared ready for another season? Was a big one for you.

1010
00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:07.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to the next one.

1011
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:11.199
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, really exciting thing, especially now everyone's getting a bit

1012
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:13.840
<v Speaker 10>fed up a pre season, but went early there and yeah,

1013
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:16.079
<v Speaker 10>I think everyone's just really excited to get going.

1014
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:19.519
<v Speaker 1>It was a pretty dramatic game to lash. Have you

1015
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:20.719
<v Speaker 1>got over that size game?

1016
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Not quite.

1017
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:24.559
<v Speaker 10>I'm still not actually watched the game back far from

1018
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:28.239
<v Speaker 10>when we've got to review it. But yeah, I don't.

1019
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:30.559
<v Speaker 10>I don't know if we'll ever quite. I think it's

1020
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:32.880
<v Speaker 10>it's fielders all going into that care anyway.

1021
00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, it's probably probably the worst way to

1022
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:37.360
<v Speaker 2>win the season, isn't it. Look you guys looked down

1023
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:39.920
<v Speaker 2>dustin for the next semi and then yeah.

1024
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:43.000
<v Speaker 1>There's yeah it was, but not much we can do

1025
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:44.599
<v Speaker 1>about now. But you can tell that.

1026
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:46.159
<v Speaker 7>I'll see everyone's come back a.

1027
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:48.840
<v Speaker 10>Bit hurt, but review that and yeah, we're just pumped

1028
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:49.280
<v Speaker 10>the ready to go.

1029
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was a good season for the club.

1030
00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I guess with the roster of that you've gone with

1031
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Brandy Charge, you can really challenge for those tops.

1032
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay on wigging and challenge for choices.

1033
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:00.280
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I think especially after the last two years where

1034
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:03.239
<v Speaker 10>we've not made the topic, because it's sort of put

1035
00:54:03.320 --> 00:54:05.599
<v Speaker 10>us back in the right direction and we're the top four,

1036
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:09.079
<v Speaker 10>top four team again. Kabous to get them top two

1037
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:10.639
<v Speaker 10>spots this year because it's be good.

1038
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:12.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm easily got it, but we fell off. But even

1039
00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:14.840
<v Speaker 2>if you came fast year, so hopefully we'll sort of

1040
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:18.000
<v Speaker 2>get this year. I don't know your contract, Chy and

1041
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:20.760
<v Speaker 2>you talks in a clown, Can you tell anything about

1042
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:22.159
<v Speaker 2>where that's ad or yeah?

1043
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Your future just talking to obs.

1044
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:28.239
<v Speaker 10>Always been in talkatily the whole time, and there's been

1045
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:30.719
<v Speaker 10>some interests coming from elsewhere.

1046
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, just starting and trying to get hopefully get sumer so.

1047
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:37.800
<v Speaker 2>I know you've been in a club for five six years.

1048
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:40.079
<v Speaker 2>It's quite a long time, made over one hundred appearances.

1049
00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I think I guess that your preference would be decided

1050
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:44.679
<v Speaker 2>if you can work, because you'll have the farm in

1051
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:45.079
<v Speaker 2>the city.

1052
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:46.079
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent.

1053
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:48.880
<v Speaker 10>It's been It's been good to me, Alou when Witness

1054
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:51.800
<v Speaker 10>went into administration, and I'll say it might have been

1055
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:55.039
<v Speaker 10>playing championship, which would have been a completely different stories. Yeah,

1056
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:57.239
<v Speaker 10>they actually took a took a chat on me and

1057
00:54:57.679 --> 00:54:59.679
<v Speaker 10>so come from the having been so really grateful and

1058
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.559
<v Speaker 10>it's as one of the best clubs, if not the

1059
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:03.360
<v Speaker 10>best club in the world.

1060
00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:06.440
<v Speaker 1>So yea with us and I think been a month

1061
00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:10.679
<v Speaker 1>away Vegas. Yeah, have you've been before? And how much

1062
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:11.519
<v Speaker 1>are you looking forward to that?

1063
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Plan?

1064
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:14.000
<v Speaker 1>The legis training I've never been for.

1065
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:16.880
<v Speaker 10>As soon as we got announced who I was watching

1066
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:19.239
<v Speaker 10>loads of videos on YouTube of all what's there and

1067
00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:21.480
<v Speaker 10>looking at all the stuff from last year when the

1068
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:24.840
<v Speaker 10>clubs went a really excited things. There's not really many

1069
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:27.039
<v Speaker 10>opportunities that you get like this when you when you play,

1070
00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:29.119
<v Speaker 10>so definitely won't take it for granted.

1071
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Jeremiah, how are you finding I guess love from the

1072
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:35.920
<v Speaker 2>other side of the world and pre season in the.

1073
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:39.599
<v Speaker 1>Nice cold now it's good. Obviously, it's the training isue

1074
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:40.159
<v Speaker 1>weather here.

1075
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Different to having hot preseason and then cold creature, so

1076
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:47.960
<v Speaker 3>a bit hard on the lines, but it's been pretty good.

1077
00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:51.519
<v Speaker 2>And you've come over from from Queensland, from the Cowboys

1078
00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:53.199
<v Speaker 2>system and the Cadies and the q CAP.

1079
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:55.679
<v Speaker 1>I guess what was the appeal of the lout Leeds.

1080
00:55:56.119 --> 00:55:56.639
<v Speaker 7>I guess.

1081
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:01.079
<v Speaker 3>The coach I've bread after we talked and he was

1082
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:03.760
<v Speaker 3>really had. He talked to me about having a break

1083
00:56:03.800 --> 00:56:05.880
<v Speaker 3>future and obviously learning things off.

1084
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:07.960
<v Speaker 4>Him and what he thinks I could bring to the team.

1085
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:10.280
<v Speaker 7>So that that's probably what what I mean people got

1086
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:11.320
<v Speaker 7>coming into for.

1087
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:13.280
<v Speaker 2>The Rhinos fans, I guess who haven't seen you play,

1088
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:15.159
<v Speaker 2>probably didn't see you in boxing that I guess, what

1089
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:16.960
<v Speaker 2>can you What can you bring to the team.

1090
00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:21.480
<v Speaker 3>My aggression, I think for everyone I take or thinks

1091
00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:24.920
<v Speaker 3>he plus boss mine, so that's why I think I

1092
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:27.639
<v Speaker 3>can really bring to him, especially my size. So okay,

1093
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:29.599
<v Speaker 3>that's the big attraction for these fans.

1094
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Come watch and you've got coach player and custardson down

1095
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:35.800
<v Speaker 2>in Mackay obviously a former leagues player today, give you

1096
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:38.159
<v Speaker 2>an advice or talk to you about about comings of

1097
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:38.639
<v Speaker 2>the runners.

1098
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:41.840
<v Speaker 3>No, so I shouldn't tell him until I actually got

1099
00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:43.400
<v Speaker 3>placed off obviously going to comment.

1100
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:46.239
<v Speaker 7>He just told me that's a great club and he

1101
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:47.079
<v Speaker 7>looks looks.

1102
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Towards to me being he's always a great free non

1103
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:52.159
<v Speaker 3>club and I see his club.

1104
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:54.199
<v Speaker 1>So that's for me.

1105
00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:58.760
<v Speaker 2>And you've got a trip to Vegas round two. Have

1106
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:00.800
<v Speaker 2>you been in Vegas before? Looking forward to that.

1107
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:01.880
<v Speaker 4>Now, I've actually.

1108
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Was my first time moving on to the country, said,

1109
00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Vegas be a new experience for me, So hopefully over there.

1110
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:11.639
<v Speaker 2>And you've had any chance to sort of watch the

1111
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:15.559
<v Speaker 2>NRL and Super League in Vegas enough alleged stadium playing

1112
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:17.559
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL ground, Yeah, I always.

1113
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Watched it, watching the last year for the last few years,

1114
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:23.840
<v Speaker 3>and that's pretty pretty cool to actually just do his standing.

1115
00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Foot in a really a great stadium.

1116
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:29.079
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you're back with Liam john on Super League

1117
00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:34.639
<v Speaker 1>three sixty, Angus Crichton and Mark nowanganesa man. No agase,

1118
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be playing Rarah in twenty twenty seven.

1119
00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:43.840
<v Speaker 2>They are, I mean the Angus krat one. I don't

1120
00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:46.679
<v Speaker 2>think anyone's really surprised that this has been ongoing for

1121
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:52.320
<v Speaker 2>what two years, you know, I think he was. I

1122
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.480
<v Speaker 2>can't remember which GPS school he came to. Everybody he

1123
00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:57.400
<v Speaker 2>played union league as young stratink.

1124
00:57:57.599 --> 00:57:59.679
<v Speaker 1>I've got a new incin in my head for some reason.

1125
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think Cameron Murray might have been Newington, or

1126
00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:10.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe they both were Newington. But he's always He's always

1127
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:13.400
<v Speaker 2>been a dual co kind of player in the sense

1128
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:15.480
<v Speaker 2>that had the education in both codes. I think he's

1129
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:17.920
<v Speaker 2>always you know, he grew up wanting to play for

1130
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:21.159
<v Speaker 2>the Wallabies. From the league point of view, it is

1131
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:24.599
<v Speaker 2>a shame because I think, you know, he's been one

1132
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:26.360
<v Speaker 2>of the best back robbers in the world the last

1133
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:30.119
<v Speaker 2>couple of years. Very good in the Ashes, Scott's College,

1134
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:33.559
<v Speaker 2>Scott's College. Yeah, but I mean good luck to him.

1135
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:34.400
<v Speaker 4>I think.

1136
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:39.199
<v Speaker 2>The Wallabies are going to have a very strong NRL contingent,

1137
00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:43.119
<v Speaker 2>aren't they. Obviously with so I Ee and Tom Wright

1138
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:48.800
<v Speaker 2>the former mainly fallback. Looks like Zach Lomax won't be

1139
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:50.639
<v Speaker 2>going to union. He's trying to find his way back

1140
00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:52.639
<v Speaker 2>into the NROL. But Paramounter, well, that was the other

1141
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:53.719
<v Speaker 2>one I was going to bring up.

1142
00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Zach Lomax is twenty twenty six is Ben

1143
00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:03.679
<v Speaker 1>Hunt because as we've said before, John that that wasn't

1144
00:59:03.719 --> 00:59:05.679
<v Speaker 1>rhyming slang by the way it was. It was a

1145
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:09.840
<v Speaker 1>reference to the fact that bent Hunt dominated the media

1146
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:12.719
<v Speaker 1>landscape in a couple of off seasons, because it was

1147
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:15.360
<v Speaker 1>a willie or won't he And again it speaks to

1148
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:20.039
<v Speaker 1>this changing media landscape that a reference often that there's

1149
00:59:20.119 --> 00:59:22.760
<v Speaker 1>less journalists now, so when the senior ones go off

1150
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:27.320
<v Speaker 1>for the summer break, there's less junior writers and less

1151
00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:31.039
<v Speaker 1>junior hacks trying to get some tried to get some news.

1152
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:33.599
<v Speaker 1>So they just recycle, recycle, and just pick on one

1153
00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:36.079
<v Speaker 1>thing and recycle it and recycle it and get whatever

1154
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:41.000
<v Speaker 1>goodly can. And this year is the summer of Zach Lomax, unfortunately.

1155
00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:45.679
<v Speaker 1>You know, Monday, it's Zach Lomax's is going Tuesday, is

1156
00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:49.199
<v Speaker 1>staying Wednesday. He clipped his toenails Thursday, got his hair

1157
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:52.719
<v Speaker 1>done Friday, you know, so it's this is the summer

1158
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:56.360
<v Speaker 1>of Zach Lomax, unfortunately in Australia. So no offense to

1159
00:59:56.480 --> 01:00:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Zach Lomax. I mean, what's interesting about Zach Lomax. The

1160
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:05.239
<v Speaker 1>public look at him as someone who contract hops and

1161
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to go far to see that opinion. However,

1162
01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:12.039
<v Speaker 1>his manager was on a podcast recently and said, well,

1163
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Zach Lomax was promised this at his first club. I'm

1164
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:19.719
<v Speaker 1>having another senior moment. He came from Saint George and

1165
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.800
<v Speaker 1>he did. He was told he was going to be

1166
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:27.280
<v Speaker 1>at Saint George's full back, and then they took other

1167
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:30.320
<v Speaker 1>options and ended up on the wing. And then he

1168
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:33.599
<v Speaker 1>went to Paramatta to play full back under Brad Arthur.

1169
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:39.119
<v Speaker 1>The coach got moved and Clint and and when Clint

1170
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Gutherson left, he still didn't get full back. And so

1171
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:47.679
<v Speaker 1>from from that, I think he wanted center a parent matter.

1172
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:52.159
<v Speaker 1>But he was right with Clem Gartherson, and that was

1173
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:53.199
<v Speaker 1>a lot of reasons he went.

1174
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:54.199
<v Speaker 2>To Yeah that's right.

1175
01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sorry mom.

1176
01:00:55.639 --> 01:01:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Again, there's always there's always two sides the story. I

1177
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:03.679
<v Speaker 2>think his manager was panning out that the Zach is

1178
01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:06.320
<v Speaker 2>a player who likes different challenges, he likes to test himself.

1179
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:09.119
<v Speaker 2>From that, it's perfectly fine. Obviously he wanted to go

1180
01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:12.639
<v Speaker 2>to R three sixty. That didn't happen, and that was

1181
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:14.360
<v Speaker 2>the other beat up that we had for several months.

1182
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:17.199
<v Speaker 2>R three sixty in the amount of people saying it was,

1183
01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:21.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, this massive threat when really it wasn't. But

1184
01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:24.239
<v Speaker 2>I believe three sixties lasted longer than our three sixty

1185
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:28.000
<v Speaker 2>on zach Lovak's look. I think at the end of

1186
01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:30.719
<v Speaker 2>the days he did sign, you know, his exit with

1187
01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Paramatter is that he wouldn't be going to another an

1188
01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:37.880
<v Speaker 2>oral club without their permission or without their negotiation. So Paramatta,

1189
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:42.480
<v Speaker 2>who within their rights. People forget you know, what happened

1190
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.599
<v Speaker 2>with Gordon Tallis. I think was it ninety six. I

1191
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:48.360
<v Speaker 2>think it was ninety six, But basically, when the Super

1192
01:01:48.440 --> 01:01:51.679
<v Speaker 2>League War happened, he agreed to go to the Broncos

1193
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:55.199
<v Speaker 2>to leave Saint Georgia Lawara, and Saint Georgia Lawara wouldn't

1194
01:01:55.320 --> 01:01:58.519
<v Speaker 2>let him go and he sat out a year, you know,

1195
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:01.320
<v Speaker 2>And I mean that never happens anymore, does it, Because

1196
01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:04.480
<v Speaker 2>generally contracts aren't worth the paper they print it on.

1197
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.599
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I think Paramatter are within their rights

1198
01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:10.840
<v Speaker 2>to do that. I don't know whether there could be,

1199
01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:13.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, if he goes to Melbourne, be some sort

1200
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:15.159
<v Speaker 2>of trade where they pick up a player. You know,

1201
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:17.039
<v Speaker 2>that's what you see in the NBA, in the NFL

1202
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:21.199
<v Speaker 2>and other competitions. But it's a difficult situation for Zach.

1203
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:24.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, apparently he fancies himself as a bit of

1204
01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:27.320
<v Speaker 2>a boxer too, so maybe'll he'll go and fight Nelson

1205
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:30.840
<v Speaker 2>a few bouts this year and then back on the

1206
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:32.320
<v Speaker 2>fuddy field in twenty twenty seven.

1207
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:34.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I always say, they only do this

1208
01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:37.039
<v Speaker 1>because we're a salary cap sport and they can earn

1209
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:40.400
<v Speaker 1>whatever they want somewhere else, or if we don't want

1210
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:42.840
<v Speaker 1>our players to sniff around, pay them more.

1211
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:46.280
<v Speaker 2>And I have some sympathy to Zach in the sense

1212
01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:49.679
<v Speaker 2>that clubs do the same thing. They'll sign someone on

1213
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:52.119
<v Speaker 2>a massive deal, not get value from and then try

1214
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:54.679
<v Speaker 2>and move them on or you know, try and freeze about.

1215
01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:59.280
<v Speaker 2>It happens in every spot Hamson football, happens in rugby league,

1216
01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:03.360
<v Speaker 2>you name it. So it goes both ways. But at

1217
01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:05.800
<v Speaker 2>this point it's it's it's Zach who's who's got a

1218
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:07.599
<v Speaker 2>lump it? And and PARAMOUTNTA looked to be in a

1219
01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:08.199
<v Speaker 2>strong position.

1220
01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:14.079
<v Speaker 1>I was listening. I was just doing a job, Johnny's job.

1221
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:20.000
<v Speaker 1>And you want to talk about the fans in the North, Yeah,

1222
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:22.400
<v Speaker 1>opinions on London and France.

1223
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll be I'll be careful to frame up because I

1224
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:28.920
<v Speaker 2>think today on a on a message board, I do

1225
01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:33.760
<v Speaker 2>love the message boards with people without names or identities

1226
01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:37.239
<v Speaker 2>or anything. But I was accused of spreading propaganda. Will

1227
01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:39.599
<v Speaker 2>actually I mean I think Steve Mascord, me and Steve

1228
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:44.760
<v Speaker 2>get thrown in together. But as it was an interview

1229
01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:47.639
<v Speaker 2>that Steve did you know the propaganda that they wanted

1230
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:50.840
<v Speaker 2>to kick the French teams out, which didn't happen, And

1231
01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:55.199
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't propaganda, it was what numerous sources were telling us.

1232
01:03:55.400 --> 01:04:01.079
<v Speaker 2>It's what you know, several clubs had voiced there whatever

1233
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:03.480
<v Speaker 2>you would like to call it, dislike of French clubs,

1234
01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:08.000
<v Speaker 2>so it's not propaganda. And the similar thing happened with London.

1235
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:11.679
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of people and it's not every rugby

1236
01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:14.760
<v Speaker 2>league fan the North, but it is. He would say

1237
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:18.280
<v Speaker 2>a vocal morority minority is that some of them don't

1238
01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:21.840
<v Speaker 2>want to see let's call them expansion teams do well.

1239
01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:26.880
<v Speaker 2>And you could say London to lose Catalans Toronto previously,

1240
01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:30.480
<v Speaker 2>they don't want, you know, rugby league to they really

1241
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:33.159
<v Speaker 2>in reality, they don't actually want rugby league to thrive

1242
01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:36.639
<v Speaker 2>in new markets because they wanted to keep it as

1243
01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:39.840
<v Speaker 2>their game. They don't want to expand, and there was

1244
01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:42.480
<v Speaker 2>some of the similar commentary around, you know, the RFLA

1245
01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:45.400
<v Speaker 2>helping London, blah blah blah. The RFLA aren't helping London,

1246
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:47.920
<v Speaker 2>not giving them any money, They're not giving them any support.

1247
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:51.519
<v Speaker 2>It's all being done by the Broncos themselves, by Darren

1248
01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:54.519
<v Speaker 2>Lockyer and his group, and they're spending a lot of

1249
01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:57.880
<v Speaker 2>money to do it. A similar case with Toronto. Toronto

1250
01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:01.039
<v Speaker 2>never got any central funding, which eventually was one of

1251
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:04.119
<v Speaker 2>the reasons why they went under. And now with cat Lands,

1252
01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:07.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's this actually a story that Steve Maskell did

1253
01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:09.519
<v Speaker 2>last year. He interviewed Steve McNamara, who was still the

1254
01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:13.360
<v Speaker 2>cat Lands coach then, and he pointed out how cat Lands,

1255
01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:15.719
<v Speaker 2>which were formed in two thousand and six, they were

1256
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:19.119
<v Speaker 2>everyone's favorite club, sorry, second favorite club. Everyone loved them

1257
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:21.239
<v Speaker 2>because they were the plucky little underdogs.

1258
01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:21.400
<v Speaker 7>You know.

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01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:25.800
<v Speaker 2>It was a great place to go out beating everybody. Yeah, exactly.

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01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:29.000
<v Speaker 2>And then I think it was twenty eighteen my own

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01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:30.440
<v Speaker 2>senior moment. I was at the game, but I think

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01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:33.000
<v Speaker 2>it was twenty eighteen they beat Warrington in the Change

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01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Cup Final, and then they made two Grand Finals in

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01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:38.039
<v Speaker 2>the space of two or three years, and they started

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01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:40.840
<v Speaker 2>to be a top team and you know, tracting players

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01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:43.559
<v Speaker 2>and et cetera. And then people started, you know saying, oh, well,

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01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:45.039
<v Speaker 2>they've got to put a bond up for the Challenge

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01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Cup and now we've got to get them to pay

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01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:48.840
<v Speaker 2>a million pounds a year to pay for the traveler

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01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:52.400
<v Speaker 2>other team. So you just see, there's there's an attitude

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01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:56.280
<v Speaker 2>there that exists. And you know, I get that reaction

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01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:59.559
<v Speaker 2>from lots of people online, whether they be from trolls

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01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:02.400
<v Speaker 2>or burn recounts or whatever. And there is this kind

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01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:06.719
<v Speaker 2>of protectionism, shall we call it, for those who are

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01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:09.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, outside the heartlands.

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01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Mat Brexit, mate, get the immigrants out. Well, there's there's

1277
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:18.519
<v Speaker 1>that in Australia all the time. I'm an immigrant. I

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01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:19.480
<v Speaker 1>think we don't get.

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01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:23.760
<v Speaker 2>There is an element of that. But if you're a

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01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:26.119
<v Speaker 2>rugby league fan, if you're a proper rugby league fan,

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01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:29.800
<v Speaker 2>it's quite it's kind of cutting off your nose despite

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01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:32.119
<v Speaker 2>your face, Like why would you not want the game

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01:06:32.199 --> 01:06:36.480
<v Speaker 2>to thrive in France? In London? You know? And I

1284
01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:40.639
<v Speaker 2>had one person who commented they'd obviously not you know,

1285
01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:44.480
<v Speaker 2>been paying attentional you know, why doesn't the NRL have

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01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:48.039
<v Speaker 2>all these teams in Victoria and Wa and everything, And

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01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:49.840
<v Speaker 2>it was kind of like, well, if you look at

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01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:52.480
<v Speaker 2>the history of the New so well as RL, you

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01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:55.280
<v Speaker 2>know they brought in Wollongong and Canberra in eighty two,

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01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:57.679
<v Speaker 2>and then they brought in Newcastle and Brisbane in eighty eight,

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01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:00.320
<v Speaker 2>and then brought in the Warriors, and they brought in

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01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:03.480
<v Speaker 2>First Adelaide and you know some of those clubs went

1293
01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:05.559
<v Speaker 2>past and Super Leigu war and then they've started to

1294
01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:09.480
<v Speaker 2>expand again and doorphans working and person coming in and

1295
01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:13.599
<v Speaker 2>P and g's coming in, so they are expanding it

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01:07:13.800 --> 01:07:14.719
<v Speaker 2>might not have been.

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01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:17.440
<v Speaker 1>And in the lower grades. P and G have played

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01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:19.920
<v Speaker 1>in the Queensland Cup for at least a decade. I

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01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:24.280
<v Speaker 1>think now Fiji have played in the New South Wales

1300
01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:29.119
<v Speaker 1>one New Zealand as well. Am I Rundown. I love

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01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you mentioned the word propaganda all the

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01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:33.639
<v Speaker 1>time because I've actually got the French word for propaganda,

1303
01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:39.599
<v Speaker 1>which is proper gandhi, So that's quite appropriate. That's the universe, John,

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01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:43.360
<v Speaker 1>because in Lee's laugh, which can be a haha or

1305
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:47.400
<v Speaker 1>you're having a laugh. I'm going to talk about clubs

1306
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:52.079
<v Speaker 1>off season messaging, the stuff that they try and control. Okay,

1307
01:07:52.440 --> 01:07:58.320
<v Speaker 1>so this is this is influenced by Golcost Titans. So

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01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:02.880
<v Speaker 1>about ten years years ago, I coached a couple of

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01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:07.400
<v Speaker 1>players in one of my jobs in a big elite program,

1310
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:10.360
<v Speaker 1>and they went to play for the Go Cost Titans

1311
01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:13.360
<v Speaker 1>and one of them, well both of them. One of

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01:08:13.400 --> 01:08:16.880
<v Speaker 1>them in particular was let's just say very economical in

1313
01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the gymnasium. That's my polite's way of saying. He did

1314
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:26.199
<v Speaker 1>sweet Fanny Adams, right, and his strength scores weren't anything flash,

1315
01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:28.640
<v Speaker 1>but he was one of those players this, okay, mate,

1316
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:31.960
<v Speaker 1>you just do what you do and score some tries

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01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:32.640
<v Speaker 1>for me in the game.

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01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Right.

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01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:39.720
<v Speaker 1>He was at Titans that summer and they were trumpeting

1320
01:08:39.800 --> 01:08:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he'd broken all the gym records at

1321
01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the club. This is the same player, And I'm thinking, God,

1322
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:51.560
<v Speaker 1>either he was secretly training and we didn't know, or

1323
01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:56.000
<v Speaker 1>all the Titans must be lifting polo mints or donuts

1324
01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:59.039
<v Speaker 1>on the end of pencils kind of thing. So I've

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01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:01.359
<v Speaker 1>had subtly they have had a look at that every year,

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01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:04.000
<v Speaker 1>what's coming out of their club and every year. It's

1327
01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:07.359
<v Speaker 1>how hard the training and everything else. So I did

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01:09:07.399 --> 01:09:09.840
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a review of what the clubs have

1329
01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:13.520
<v Speaker 1>been saying over the summer. Okay, interlose. The news is

1330
01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:19.279
<v Speaker 1>actually called actualities in French, which means current events, not novelle,

1331
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:20.479
<v Speaker 1>which is the French for.

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01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:22.359
<v Speaker 7>News.

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01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:27.079
<v Speaker 1>York, there was a Sydney Morning Herald article which I'm

1334
01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:30.880
<v Speaker 1>sure they're very happy with, with a suggestion that the

1335
01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Australian businessmen are doing the Rugby League's version of Wrexham FC.

1336
01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:38.199
<v Speaker 1>Now that what concerned me when I woke this morning

1337
01:09:38.399 --> 01:09:42.039
<v Speaker 1>was your telling me that Wrexham is actually London. So

1338
01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:46.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who's Rexam so maybe they maybe York

1339
01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:51.239
<v Speaker 1>and London should play for the Wrexham Cup. Yeah. Back

1340
01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:55.079
<v Speaker 1>in France, and somebody said somewhere that the current coach

1341
01:09:55.199 --> 01:10:00.159
<v Speaker 1>reminds them of Trent Robinson, not Steve McNamara's who's he's

1342
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:04.439
<v Speaker 1>probably been the most successful coaching Atalantis Saints have gone

1343
01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:07.439
<v Speaker 1>back to their nineteen ninety six kit design essentially, which

1344
01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:10.479
<v Speaker 1>was when they won the first Super League title. Well left,

1345
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:13.159
<v Speaker 1>so he responded to their neighbors dominating the game by

1346
01:10:13.239 --> 01:10:17.199
<v Speaker 1>appointing their old CEO again. Bulls seem the braff of

1347
01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Bulls seem to have brought the run with the Bulls

1348
01:10:20.720 --> 01:10:28.960
<v Speaker 1>phrase back back into their actualities. They for those who

1349
01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:30.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know, run with the Bulls was a song they

1350
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:34.880
<v Speaker 1>brought out, oh about twenty odd years ago actually, So

1351
01:10:35.319 --> 01:10:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I hope this person who had got these people who

1352
01:10:37.720 --> 01:10:39.479
<v Speaker 1>had to go at me remember, knows that I know

1353
01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the song run with the Bulls, and they seem to

1354
01:10:44.920 --> 01:10:48.119
<v Speaker 1>be using that term again this offseason, no doubt to

1355
01:10:48.199 --> 01:10:51.600
<v Speaker 1>get some nostalgia going. Wakefield started Trinity TV on New

1356
01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Year's Eve, so there will be no doubt trying to

1357
01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:59.680
<v Speaker 1>control their messaging and then of course there's a few

1358
01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:02.279
<v Speaker 1>people we might go off message a little bit sometimes.

1359
01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:08.439
<v Speaker 1>Castleford Tiger's assistant Scott Murell praise their new signing, Jimmy Beckett,

1360
01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:11.720
<v Speaker 1>who'd been signed about a week before from part time Featherstone,

1361
01:11:12.600 --> 01:11:16.800
<v Speaker 1>and after one friendly game, tipped him to replicate the

1362
01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:22.079
<v Speaker 1>Super League success of Saint Helen's Alex Walmsley. So that

1363
01:11:22.199 --> 01:11:24.680
<v Speaker 1>was quite a big leap in one game. I'm sure.

1364
01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the coach and players were happy with that.

1365
01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:30.640
<v Speaker 1>That's quite a lot of pressure and of course Castleford

1366
01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:33.840
<v Speaker 1>dev had to navigate the collapse of the Benadorme Bash, which,

1367
01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:35.720
<v Speaker 1>for those who don't know, with some event that was

1368
01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:40.199
<v Speaker 1>meant to be happening in Benadorm, Wigan. We're going are

1369
01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:43.319
<v Speaker 1>currently in Tenna Reef and the CEO is blogging, the

1370
01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:47.000
<v Speaker 1>CEO Chris Redlinski. I've also no apparently they've got a

1371
01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:53.640
<v Speaker 1>hooker that reminds them of Terry Newton. So yeah, but

1372
01:11:54.520 --> 01:11:56.800
<v Speaker 1>this is what happens, isn't it in the off season people?

1373
01:11:57.239 --> 01:12:00.600
<v Speaker 1>But my absolute favorite John and I mentioned alf Rimmer

1374
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:05.279
<v Speaker 1>in the opener, how he's been brought back to bring

1375
01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:11.279
<v Speaker 1>past glories to this club, Huddersfield Giants, and they've got

1376
01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:18.680
<v Speaker 1>a concept called Giants Giants Unleashed. Now I googled this

1377
01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's actually something to do with WWE. But I

1378
01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:31.079
<v Speaker 1>had to navigate the internet waters and go back to

1379
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Giants Unleashed in its Huddersfield guys, which is a dynamic

1380
01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:40.479
<v Speaker 1>club wide reset. It's a new energy, it's a fresh

1381
01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:47.279
<v Speaker 1>and shared belief. It's a real focus, it's a complete togetherness.

1382
01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:52.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a momentum. And in a press release on the

1383
01:12:52.920 --> 01:12:59.039
<v Speaker 1>sixteenth of January titled Giants Unleashed, a new era. The

1384
01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:02.279
<v Speaker 1>journey of Giants Unleashed began over a lunch in July

1385
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:05.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, and since then has continued to gather pace.

1386
01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:11.399
<v Speaker 1>So lunch in twenty twenty five, are we talking subway

1387
01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:15.520
<v Speaker 1>or was it a piss up and the few ideas

1388
01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:19.079
<v Speaker 1>started flowing? We're talking like a load of white speak.

1389
01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:22.319
<v Speaker 1>That is, I mean, that's that's whoever right that should

1390
01:13:22.319 --> 01:13:26.960
<v Speaker 1>be working for Donald tramp or Castarma and God have

1391
01:13:27.039 --> 01:13:31.199
<v Speaker 1>not finished. Everyone understands the size of the task and

1392
01:13:31.279 --> 01:13:33.920
<v Speaker 1>what needs to be done, and it is that undeniable

1393
01:13:34.039 --> 01:13:40.720
<v Speaker 1>passion for success that is inspirational and unstoppable. This club

1394
01:13:40.760 --> 01:13:45.159
<v Speaker 1>has really challenged itself. Giants Unleashed is a result and

1395
01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:49.359
<v Speaker 1>is a complete change of mindset. We are rapidly transforming

1396
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:53.840
<v Speaker 1>internally in three ways. Strategically, vision, mission, and business plans.

1397
01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:58.000
<v Speaker 1>It says in brackets, culturally, values and identity in brackets,

1398
01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:04.840
<v Speaker 1>and through increased connect we will bring it says. We

1399
01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:08.680
<v Speaker 1>will will bring Giants Unleash to life and to you

1400
01:14:08.960 --> 01:14:12.239
<v Speaker 1>overcoming months, and it will manifest itself in many ways.

1401
01:14:13.239 --> 01:14:16.600
<v Speaker 1>You will see and share in our successes. Will this

1402
01:14:16.760 --> 01:14:17.560
<v Speaker 1>happen overnight?

1403
01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:18.000
<v Speaker 3>No?

1404
01:14:18.840 --> 01:14:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Will we get things wrong on occasion, yes. Will we

1405
01:14:22.600 --> 01:14:27.000
<v Speaker 1>still lose games unfortunately, yes. Will we be criticized along

1406
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:30.359
<v Speaker 1>the way, Yes, absolutely, but let's be brave and confident.

1407
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Will wee bring them up in Lee's laugh Yes. Are

1408
01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:37.680
<v Speaker 1>we ambitious, Yes, very much so. Do we now have

1409
01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:39.359
<v Speaker 1>clear objectives and direction?

1410
01:14:39.640 --> 01:14:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

1411
01:14:40.520 --> 01:14:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Are we entering an exciting new chapter? Yes? Should you

1412
01:14:44.399 --> 01:14:49.840
<v Speaker 1>be part of it? Yes? Now this sounds I've done

1413
01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:55.039
<v Speaker 1>some analyses. Sounds to me like a souped up way

1414
01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:57.119
<v Speaker 1>of saying. Rather, Umber did a three month review and

1415
01:14:57.199 --> 01:14:59.319
<v Speaker 1>now he's on the board and he's now a director

1416
01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:04.520
<v Speaker 1>for change. I reckon he was at that lunch the Tony.

1417
01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:06.680
<v Speaker 1>He's the Tony Blair of the Board of Peace, but

1418
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:08.079
<v Speaker 1>he's a big board of change.

1419
01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I think the bit that they got me at the

1420
01:15:10.680 --> 01:15:14.279
<v Speaker 2>start when you said about past glories, Now, I think

1421
01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:16.720
<v Speaker 2>hards Filmed won the League Ladies Shield in twenty thirteen,

1422
01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:20.000
<v Speaker 2>but they have one squad before that or after it.

1423
01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:23.119
<v Speaker 2>So past Glories is clutching a bit there. It's doing

1424
01:15:23.159 --> 01:15:24.199
<v Speaker 2>a favorite of heavy lifting.

1425
01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:31.119
<v Speaker 1>And when I go through the attendances, you realize also

1426
01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:39.319
<v Speaker 1>why I went with Past Glories. Their goal apparently is

1427
01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:44.479
<v Speaker 1>to achieve a Grand Final spot within three years. They

1428
01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:48.199
<v Speaker 1>finished tenth in twenty twenty five with twenty losses. They

1429
01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:51.079
<v Speaker 1>need to find a new ground. And the average four

1430
01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:54.560
<v Speaker 1>two and twenty six fans in twenty twenty five, which

1431
01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:59.640
<v Speaker 1>is their lowest average attendance for twenty one years. That

1432
01:15:59.800 --> 01:16:04.000
<v Speaker 1>was second lowest only to Salford who are now no

1433
01:16:04.119 --> 01:16:08.039
<v Speaker 1>longer in Super League, and their attendances have headed south

1434
01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:11.680
<v Speaker 1>every year since COVID basically, and it was dipping all

1435
01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:14.520
<v Speaker 1>but two years before then too, so COVID could be

1436
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:17.640
<v Speaker 1>a factor, but it's not as big a factor. They've

1437
01:16:17.680 --> 01:16:20.760
<v Speaker 1>basically lost almost three and a half thousand fans since

1438
01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:23.760
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight when they used to average seven

1439
01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:28.560
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and twenty and back in the year two

1440
01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:31.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand they averaged only three thousand fans. But they were

1441
01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:38.960
<v Speaker 1>merged with with Sheffield then and when it googled it

1442
01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:43.720
<v Speaker 1>further like I say, it's a WWE Supercard, whatever that means, and.

1443
01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Was so successful that it was nicknamed Shadowsfield. I think

1444
01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:52.439
<v Speaker 2>I've governed had a Field quite a bit of the

1445
01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:56.119
<v Speaker 2>last decade or so, and I think you could always

1446
01:16:56.119 --> 01:16:58.159
<v Speaker 2>say there are a club that's really struggled for an

1447
01:16:58.239 --> 01:17:02.119
<v Speaker 2>identity for a purpose. They seem to have that sort

1448
01:17:02.159 --> 01:17:05.640
<v Speaker 2>of around that pool where innocenario when they had success,

1449
01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:07.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, they finished top and they had you know,

1450
01:17:07.439 --> 01:17:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Jermaine mcgilvrey and Leary Kudo, and they had a lot

1451
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:16.760
<v Speaker 2>of homegrown players. But they've really struggled to have a

1452
01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:19.840
<v Speaker 2>fan base, to achieve on the field, to connect off it.

1453
01:17:21.239 --> 01:17:23.239
<v Speaker 2>They're in a stadium that's far too big for them.

1454
01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:25.720
<v Speaker 2>They want to move to Halifax, but it's hard to

1455
01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:27.279
<v Speaker 2>see how that's going to help them. They want to

1456
01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:29.079
<v Speaker 2>build a new ground, but they don't have approval for that,

1457
01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:32.279
<v Speaker 2>so they're kind of in no man's land. I think

1458
01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:37.720
<v Speaker 2>the club really needs a whole proper makeover and new leadership.

1459
01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:41.640
<v Speaker 2>But it sounds like we've just got lovely soundbites and you.

1460
01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Know, I think that's quite a lot of posturing for

1461
01:17:45.439 --> 01:17:51.119
<v Speaker 1>a club that's got some really scary metrics.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of the funny, well, the funny thing with

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<v Speaker 2>Audisthood I find is that people always mention it. You know,

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01:17:58.119 --> 01:18:01.000
<v Speaker 2>it's the birthplace of rugby league, and you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>also to be a death place. Looking at those figures, well,

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01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:07.359
<v Speaker 2>the Georgia Hotel was where the first meeting came in

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01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:10.039
<v Speaker 2>eighteen ninety five, but I think it was held there

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<v Speaker 2>not because Huddersfield is a massive rugby league city or town.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because it was sort of in between all the

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01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:20.880
<v Speaker 2>points that people were coming from, and you know, Huddersfield Town,

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01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:24.760
<v Speaker 2>the local football club, get a lot more fans and

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01:18:24.840 --> 01:18:27.720
<v Speaker 2>they've rarely been in the Premier League in the last

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirty years, so it's yeah, it's it's a place

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01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:35.159
<v Speaker 2>where the game isn't thriving and hasn't been for a

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01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:39.079
<v Speaker 2>long while. But yeah, the Giants have got a lot

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01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:42.920
<v Speaker 2>of work to do, you know, to improve on where

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01:18:42.920 --> 01:18:45.319
<v Speaker 2>they finished last year and making a Grand Final in

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01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:48.960
<v Speaker 2>the next three years. I really can't see that happening,

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01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:53.279
<v Speaker 2>but we'll have to wait and see. But they're unleashed, John,

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01:18:54.399 --> 01:18:55.199
<v Speaker 2>they are unleased.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. They're unleashed. And what was it at the

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01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:01.680
<v Speaker 1>start again, it's a dynamic club wide reset, new energy,

1483
01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:08.039
<v Speaker 1>shared and fresh belief, are real focus, are complete together

1484
01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:11.119
<v Speaker 1>as a momentum. So I thought that was the best.

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<v Speaker 1>You do agree with me? That's the winner.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the winner at.

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Sadler said this week he said he should have

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<v Speaker 1>a look at the gambling provisions and see what odds

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01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:28.239
<v Speaker 1>you can get for Huddersfield to win the first five games.

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01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:38.920
<v Speaker 1>So maybe he's been caught by this proper Gandhi. I

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01:19:39.079 --> 01:19:42.279
<v Speaker 1>normally I normally add an analysis thing at the end

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01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:44.880
<v Speaker 1>of this podcast. But John, because this podcast is going

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01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:47.359
<v Speaker 1>to be quite long with the audio, going to put

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01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:50.880
<v Speaker 1>that into a separate YouTube YouTube clip, it's already up there.

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01:19:50.880 --> 01:19:54.479
<v Speaker 1>I've done an analysis this week on jez Litton. Basically

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01:19:54.600 --> 01:19:58.439
<v Speaker 1>what you'll find John is and I think this is

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01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:01.439
<v Speaker 1>possibly indicative for the English game and how it took

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01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:03.479
<v Speaker 1>its eye off the ball in the last decade or so.

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<v Speaker 1>There's quite a lot of things in his game that

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01:20:06.720 --> 01:20:12.039
<v Speaker 1>he needs to fix, particularly vis a vis tackle technique

1501
01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:15.039
<v Speaker 1>and his position in the defensive line. And he's probably

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01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:18.479
<v Speaker 1>England's premier hooker right now, isn't it all right? He's

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01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:19.239
<v Speaker 1>by far? Yeah?

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01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:20.039
<v Speaker 7>And is it?

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01:20:20.119 --> 01:20:22.439
<v Speaker 1>You know he's twenty seven turning twenty eight this year,

1506
01:20:22.560 --> 01:20:26.680
<v Speaker 1>so he's essentially in his peak so great player and

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01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Brisbane will have to watch him in the World Cup Challenge.

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01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:32.159
<v Speaker 1>But you know, when I do these analysis videos and

1509
01:20:32.279 --> 01:20:35.399
<v Speaker 1>what the trolls don't seem to understand on Facebook is

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01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming from the point of view as a coach

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01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:43.399
<v Speaker 1>or who's coaching against him, or a coach who wants

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01:20:43.479 --> 01:20:46.720
<v Speaker 1>to improve him, and therefore you look for things and

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01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:51.439
<v Speaker 1>you notice things. And yeah, this this analysis video which

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01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:56.279
<v Speaker 1>is already on the Rugby League YouTube, we'll show some

1515
01:20:56.399 --> 01:20:58.319
<v Speaker 1>of these things. But at the same time, I'm saying

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01:20:58.680 --> 01:21:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Brisbane are going to have to really what because his

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01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:03.279
<v Speaker 1>instincts around the player the ball, you only have to

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01:21:03.319 --> 01:21:06.000
<v Speaker 1>put one eyebrow out of play of marker and he goals.

1519
01:21:06.439 --> 01:21:09.439
<v Speaker 1>He's really good at that. So he definitely caught my

1520
01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:11.680
<v Speaker 1>eye in the Super League Grand Final last year and

1521
01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was excellent when he played for England.

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01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:20.520
<v Speaker 2>So your DMS building up with angry ok our fans already,

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01:21:20.840 --> 01:21:23.000
<v Speaker 2>that's right, that's right. I'll make sure to tag them

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<v Speaker 2>in Busy week coming up? Not too badly, not too bad.

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01:21:33.119 --> 01:21:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean we're getting there now, aren't we Mean it's

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01:21:35.039 --> 01:21:37.319
<v Speaker 1>only a matter of weeks now till the Super League season,

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01:21:37.479 --> 01:21:40.399
<v Speaker 1>so we'll be we'll be weekly by then, if not before,

1528
01:21:41.079 --> 01:21:43.840
<v Speaker 1>We've got all ideas for content and whatnot. So this

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01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:45.760
<v Speaker 1>podcast is going to get better into it. I mean,

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01:21:45.800 --> 01:21:46.800
<v Speaker 1>it can't get much worse.

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01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:51.319
<v Speaker 2>So three weeks to the season starts the Super League

1532
01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:57.680
<v Speaker 2>season Challenge cut back this weekend, but yeah, February twelfth

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01:21:57.800 --> 01:21:58.319
<v Speaker 2>is approaching.

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01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:02.239
<v Speaker 1>So who's playing Challenge Cup this weekend? Any anybody in?

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01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Lots of people?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is it still lower teams? Lower grade?

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01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, there's a mixture of amateur teams with some

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01:22:12.199 --> 01:22:14.399
<v Speaker 2>of the semi professional teams.

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01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Are old and playing.

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01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:24.439
<v Speaker 2>I believe they are. Yeah, London are playing I think

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01:22:24.520 --> 01:22:28.199
<v Speaker 2>London might be playing Waterhead Warriors. I think loch Lane

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01:22:28.279 --> 01:22:31.399
<v Speaker 2>might be playing whole k Are. I know Sheffield are on.

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01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Whole k Are. I think it's whole k Are. No,

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01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:38.039
<v Speaker 1>they won't be in the round yet, will they. I

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01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:38.600
<v Speaker 1>think they are.

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01:22:39.319 --> 01:22:40.880
<v Speaker 2>It's a bit of a mixture anyway. But it's a

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01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:41.720
<v Speaker 2>long list of fixtures.

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01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:44.439
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to go well. I was waiting for

1549
01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:47.119
<v Speaker 1>the journalists to rattle out all the fixtures, about two

1550
01:22:47.239 --> 01:22:50.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred of them, aren't they It's exactly. It's the oldest

1551
01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:52.399
<v Speaker 1>competition in rugby league and it's also one of one

1552
01:22:52.439 --> 01:22:55.199
<v Speaker 1>of the few competitions like the f A Cup that

1553
01:22:55.439 --> 01:23:00.159
<v Speaker 1>starts before the last one ends, so because everybody can

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01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:03.720
<v Speaker 1>be in it basically all right, have a good week, John,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Lee,