Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host Samantha
Speaker 1: Fay and I'm Dad Bowen. We're so happy to have
Speaker 1: you join us again. This week, we are continuing our
Speaker 1: discussion of psychic tools, so we hope you listened last
Speaker 1: week where we covered crystals, pendulums, psychometry, dreams. This week
Speaker 1: we're going to be covering oracle cards to row Rune's
Speaker 1: tea leaves and palmistry. Oracle cards, I think are probably
Speaker 1: the most common psychic tool we think of when we
Speaker 1: talk about ways to enhance your intuition. People have looked
Speaker 1: to answers with the cards for centuries. The trou dates
Speaker 1: back to well, we don't really know when. That's how
Speaker 1: old it is. Noted psychologist Carl Jung use the tourou
Speaker 1: to help get in touch with archetypes. He believes the
Speaker 1: toureau was quote an intuitive method that has the purpose
Speaker 1: of understanding the flow of life, possibly even predicting future events,
Speaker 1: as all events lending itself to the reading of the
Speaker 1: conditions of the present moment. Today, there are oracle cards
Speaker 1: on everything from angels to animals and roomy to Jane Austen.
Speaker 1: My kids got me in Jane Austin Turot deck over
Speaker 1: the holidays, so you can find Touro cards on really anything.
Speaker 1: Even a normal deca playing cards has its origins in
Speaker 1: the tourou, with the suits representing the minor arcana cards
Speaker 1: from the tourou. So the minor arconic cards of the
Speaker 1: touau are broken into pentacles, swords, cups, and wands, and
Speaker 1: in a deck of playing cards, the pentacles are diamonds,
Speaker 1: wands or clubs, swords, spades, and cups or hearts. When
Speaker 1: using oracle cards, there are several spreads to choose from,
Speaker 1: such as the Tree of Life or the Celtic Cross.
Speaker 1: One of the most simplest ones to begin with is
Speaker 1: a past, Present, future reading, where you shuffle the deck
Speaker 1: while thinking of your question and then pull three cards,
Speaker 1: with the first representing the past, the second is the present,
Speaker 1: and the third points to the future outcomes. It's a
Speaker 1: really effective way to help us get out of our
Speaker 1: own way in order to get in touch with our
Speaker 1: higher self and inner guidance. A great way to learn
Speaker 1: how to use the deck oracle cards is to simply
Speaker 1: ask each morning, what do I need to know today
Speaker 1: and pick a card to symbolize your day, deb Why
Speaker 1: don't you tell us a little bit more about to
Speaker 1: row in particular.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, I could go on and on and
Speaker 2: on about this, but I'll try to condense some of it,
Speaker 2: just to give some folks some general ideas. Oracle cards
Speaker 2: don to row are different. To row is a kind
Speaker 2: of oracle, but many oracles are not to row. The
Speaker 2: difference has to do in the structure. Toro is structured with,
Speaker 2: as Samantha has mentioned, the four suits of the minor arkana,
Speaker 2: then the major arcana are cards with names that we
Speaker 2: often think of when we think of Turo the fool,
Speaker 2: the high Priest, is the Empress, Death, but Devil the
Speaker 2: world cards, so forth and so on. We, as Samantha said,
Speaker 2: don't know how old Touro is. One theory is that
Speaker 2: it was brought out of India by the Romani people
Speaker 2: and then went into Egypt and then across Europe. There
Speaker 2: are many many versions of Toro over many centuries, beginning
Speaker 2: before the Middle Ages. The most recent deck from the
Speaker 2: Middle Ages that we still have parts of is the
Speaker 2: Marseille deck. It's in a museum. The most famous to
Speaker 2: Row deck and the one that is the foundation for
Speaker 2: all other modern to Row decks, as far as I know,
Speaker 2: is the way Rider deck created in the early nineteen hundreds. Fortunately,
Speaker 2: the name of that deck is being changed by a
Speaker 2: lot of practitioners and then to include the woman who
Speaker 2: actually did the drawings, and her name was Pamela Coleman Smith,
Speaker 2: better known as Pixie. So a lot of folks these
Speaker 2: days are calling that the Weight Coleman Writer Deck. The
Speaker 2: Writer comes basically from the name of the original publisher
Speaker 2: that published the deck for a weight at the turn
Speaker 2: of the nineteen hundreds. That deck today, the Weight Coleman
Speaker 2: Writer Deck, is published by a company called US Games.
Speaker 2: And the man who was the chairman of US Games
Speaker 2: died last week and really was a strong proponent of
Speaker 2: psychic work and psychic tools and to row, and Stuart
Speaker 2: Kaplan really is somebody that I think wrote a lot
Speaker 2: of books, and I think we need to honor the
Speaker 2: work that he did to promote the use of to row.
Speaker 1: In our world.
Speaker 2: In any case, Toureau is a divination tool, and that's
Speaker 2: what most folks think of when they think of Touro.
Speaker 2: They think in terms of reading throw to answer questions
Speaker 2: we don't know or why Toro works. I tell my
Speaker 2: students that on the very first night of our class,
Speaker 2: in my intro class, I hold up a card and
Speaker 2: I say, what I am holding in my hand is
Speaker 2: a piece of cardboard covered in plastic. That's what I
Speaker 2: have in my hand. And yet it is so much
Speaker 2: for and we don't know why, and we don't know
Speaker 2: how it works, and we don't know and how those
Speaker 2: symbols work. And that's one of the reasons that I
Speaker 2: am so foam at the mouth pragmatic about insisting on
Speaker 2: using the Way Home and Smith Wrider deck is because
Speaker 2: the symbols on those cards come from so many world
Speaker 2: cultures and bring together in such a beautiful way symbols
Speaker 2: and beliefs and practices from world mythologies and religions and
Speaker 2: cultures all on those cards. So there's Christian and Hebraic thought,
Speaker 2: this Celtic thought, Roman and Egyptian mythology, one Hindu symbol
Speaker 2: in the deck. And I love that. That's one of
Speaker 2: the gifts for me that Toro gives us is it
Speaker 2: brings so much information together from so many sources, and
Speaker 2: I love the common ground that Terro helps us create
Speaker 2: when we do a reading. However, there are also many
Speaker 2: other ways that you can use to row. You can
Speaker 2: use to row as a meditation tool. It's a great
Speaker 2: meditation tool. That's one of the things again that I
Speaker 2: really recommend my students do is meditate with the energy
Speaker 2: of a key every day and see what comes up.
Speaker 2: They're great writing prompts. They offer so many other resources
Speaker 2: to us in addition to reading. I've had students who
Speaker 2: took my course and thought that they wanted to do
Speaker 2: readings and then realized that that's really not where their
Speaker 2: interest was. They really were much more interested in the
Speaker 2: history of too or in the other ways of working
Speaker 2: with Toro. Toro also tells us stories. He gives us
Speaker 2: the legend of the Holy is hidden in the Terureau,
Speaker 2: for example. It tells us about our own journeys. The
Speaker 2: hero's journey, for example, that Joseph Campbell writes about. You
Speaker 2: can trace that through the major Arcana as the fool,
Speaker 2: which is called Zero, works his way through the other
Speaker 2: cards in the major Arcana to find himself at the
Speaker 2: world at the end in a journey of emotional and
Speaker 2: physical and spiritual trials and tribulations. I Lovetero. Can you
Speaker 2: tell I love the gift that Tereu gives us as
Speaker 2: a divination tool, as a psychic tool, I think it's
Speaker 2: a great aid, but I also love some of the
Speaker 2: other gifts that Tereu gives us.
Speaker 1: There's so much to look into with Tuo that it
Speaker 1: can feel overwhelming and daunting at first, but if you
Speaker 1: take it day by day, it can really be a
Speaker 1: psychic tool that's with you for life.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I say that to my students. Don't get overwhelmed.
Speaker 2: It is a lifelong journey. It is a lifelong relation ship.
Speaker 2: You don't have to, nor can you, in my humble opinion,
Speaker 2: learn it all in one week. No. I say this too.
Speaker 2: Every single time I teach a class, I learned something
Speaker 2: new about to Row. I see something in a different
Speaker 2: way because my students teach me and to Row is
Speaker 2: always teaching me.
Speaker 1: And that's what's so fun about it all of this
Speaker 1: is there's always something new to learn.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 1: Before we dive into our next psychic tool ruins, we're
Speaker 1: going to take our first break. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: Now our next divination tool. We did a show on
Speaker 1: last year, but we thought we'd review it since we're
Speaker 1: doing our back to Basic series. The runes are a
Speaker 1: really cool way to amplify and get to know your
Speaker 1: intuition better. It's very ancient, just like to row. No
Speaker 1: one really knows where, when, or how they originated. We
Speaker 1: do know that there are cave drawings depicting runs that
Speaker 1: go back to thirteen hundred BC. The word comes from
Speaker 1: an old Norse word called runa, which means secret or mystery.
Speaker 1: The practice of throwing runs dates back to the first
Speaker 1: century Germanic tribes inscribed Italic alphabets on stones for divination purposes.
Speaker 1: Some believe the ruins were given to the Norse by
Speaker 1: their god Odin. The ruins themselves are very powerful symbols
Speaker 1: of forces in the cosmos. The origin of the word
Speaker 1: run is rooted in both letter and secret and mystery,
Speaker 1: so you can consult the runs for insight into a
Speaker 1: problem or to gain deeper understanding into your sole purpose.
Speaker 1: Runes typically come in a velvet pouch. A common way
Speaker 1: to use the ruins is to gently shake the bag
Speaker 1: while thinking of your question, and then you simply pull
Speaker 1: three ruins to represent past, present, in future. Alternately, you
Speaker 1: can pull three runs to represent the problem, the challenge,
Speaker 1: and the outcome. There are several types of runs to
Speaker 1: choose from. The Elder Foth arch is the most common
Speaker 1: set of ruins that you'll find in stores. It's a
Speaker 1: really good beginner set, but there's also several other such
Speaker 1: as the Hungarian runs and the Turkic runs. For the
Speaker 1: creed person. You can make your own runs by carving
Speaker 1: the symbols on stones, or even writing them on papers
Speaker 1: or stones you find around your yard or on your walk.
Speaker 2: My lovely friend Linda, who is an amazing stained glass
Speaker 2: artist and an artist in her soul in so many
Speaker 2: other ways, gathered us one evening for an INUK ritual
Speaker 2: some years ago, and a craft's portion of the evening
Speaker 2: which you always know you're going to have with Linda
Speaker 2: and a ritual is she wanted us to create our
Speaker 2: own set of runs using pumpkin seeds. I thought I
Speaker 2: was going to lose my mind.
Speaker 1: That's very tiny. That's a very tiny run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that just did not. But I'm just saying that
Speaker 2: for some of our listeners out there who are thinking, golly,
Speaker 2: I'd like to create my own set of runs, there
Speaker 2: is the pumpkin seed method. I'm just saying, well.
Speaker 1: There you go. I think it's good to note that
Speaker 1: if you want to use the runes as a divination tool,
Speaker 1: they're not really the best tool for put the future.
Speaker 1: In the same way that Terro can't really tell time,
Speaker 1: the runes don't necessarily tell you what's going to happen
Speaker 1: in your life. They are a really good option to
Speaker 1: turn to if you need clarity on a situation or
Speaker 1: deeper insight into a problem. My favorite book on runs
Speaker 1: is by Bob Oswald, it's called discovering runs, and he
Speaker 1: says in there it is more effective to state an
Speaker 1: issue and let the runes comment on it. This will
Speaker 1: give you an appraisal of the whole issue and the
Speaker 1: reason for the cast, rather than a simple yes or
Speaker 1: no answer. So, for example, you might say, the issue
Speaker 1: is my relationship with John Doe instead of asking does
Speaker 1: John Doe like me? He also says, and I think
Speaker 1: this is true for any divination tool you use. There
Speaker 1: are occasions when the response made does not appear to
Speaker 1: fit the issue raised. This can happen when the runes
Speaker 1: have chosen to address a more serious issue than the
Speaker 1: one you posed. This may be because the more serious
Speaker 1: issue ultimately will control the lesser issue you raise. This
Speaker 1: can be useful, he continues. If you cannot decide which
Speaker 1: issue to focus on, the runes will decide for you.
Speaker 1: Oswald also recommends that you use the runs with consistency,
Speaker 1: meaning you consult them at the same time of the day,
Speaker 1: or you always light a candle, or you only handle them,
Speaker 1: allowing the runs to get comfortable with your energy. There
Speaker 1: are two basic methods for consulting the runes, the Roun
Speaker 1: spread and the rune cast. With a room spread, you
Speaker 1: select the runs for the reading from a bag and
Speaker 1: place them in a pattern to be read. In a
Speaker 1: roune spread, it's common to read the runs based on
Speaker 1: whether they fell right side up, reverse or converse, meaning
Speaker 1: face down. In a rune cast, you toss the runes
Speaker 1: onto a designated space like a cloth or a table,
Speaker 1: and read them according to their location on this designated space.
Speaker 1: In this method, you're just casting the runs across what
Speaker 1: is called a field, but it's really just a table,
Speaker 1: desk or altarcloth. Any rooms that fall outside this designated
Speaker 1: field are not part of the reading. So runes can
Speaker 1: be difficult to learn, like to row, because you have
Speaker 1: to learn their meaning, their meaning when they're reversed, and
Speaker 1: their meaning when it's converse. When runes are cast faced up,
Speaker 1: it symbolizes that the matter is clear to you or
Speaker 1: soon will be. When they appear converse, meaning face down,
Speaker 1: it indicates that something is being withheld from you, being
Speaker 1: kept secret hidden, or there's some dishonesty. If a roun
Speaker 1: shows up in a reading upright, this is often positive,
Speaker 1: whereas when they appear reversed, it can't indicate something negative
Speaker 1: or unwise for example, the bur cannon ruine upright means growth,
Speaker 1: reversed it means lack of growth or a decrease, and
Speaker 1: face down it means hidden growth. If a ruin appears
Speaker 1: face down and reverse, you have to take both interpretations
Speaker 1: into account along with the meaning of the run. So
Speaker 1: to continue our example with the bur cannon, and if
Speaker 1: it appears face down and reversed, then this means reduced
Speaker 1: growth that is being kept hidden, which could indicate someone
Speaker 1: stealing from you or lying to you. So, as you
Speaker 1: can see, there are many many layers to understanding the runes.
Speaker 1: But I think, as with any of these tools we've mentioned,
Speaker 1: once you start engaging with any tool, but especially the
Speaker 1: runes in the Toureau, they seem to engage back with you.
Speaker 1: When we first did research for a show on runes
Speaker 1: last year, I remember reading a bunch of books on
Speaker 1: the runes and consulting the ruins myself and really doing
Speaker 1: a deep dive into it for about two weeks. And
Speaker 1: I didn't think a whole lot of it. This isn't
Speaker 1: my preferred divination tool. And I remember I was just
Speaker 1: driving in the car and I looked up in the
Speaker 1: sky and there were two exes, two white exes in
Speaker 1: the clouds like clouds that you know, not clouds conrails
Speaker 1: are they called debm okay and I thought, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: that's the ruin that means gift. And all week when
Speaker 1: I looked up in the sky, I would see those
Speaker 1: same markings, and sure enough, I had a gift come
Speaker 1: to me that week. So I just find that fascinating
Speaker 1: that when you start to dive into these tools, they
Speaker 1: often will start to engage with you in different ways.
Speaker 2: You know, Samantha, I think you're absolutely right, and I
Speaker 2: think that's true, and how wonderful that you could remember
Speaker 2: that those two ex's represented gifts, because I can't remember that,
Speaker 2: and I know I've told the story before, so I
Speaker 2: will not belabor it on this episode about my long
Speaker 2: and convoluted tempt and relationship with Rune's and how I
Speaker 2: finally passed them on to somebody to whom they did
Speaker 2: speak And I think that's wonderful. But I think that
Speaker 2: brings up a real important point I want to be
Speaker 2: sure we share with our listeners, and that is that
Speaker 2: when you are opening to your intuitive for gifts and
Speaker 2: you're really if you were kind of like me, you
Speaker 2: were a kid in a candy store and look at
Speaker 2: all the wonderful possibilities. Certainly ask your guides to help
Speaker 2: you make the decision as to which one or ones
Speaker 2: of these speak to you and resonate with you. Certainly
Speaker 2: try them, try them, and when you find that one
Speaker 2: or more does really, then dive very deeply into it.
Speaker 2: And when one does not, put it aside. It may
Speaker 2: not be for you ever, or it may be that
Speaker 2: the time isn't right and you may come back to
Speaker 2: it later. But don't get discouraged, and don't just negate
Speaker 2: something permanently. It may be that you may need to
Speaker 2: come back to it, or you may not. Here's an
Speaker 2: example from me many years ago. I really dived deeply
Speaker 2: into the each ink, really wanting to learn and understand it.
Speaker 2: And I tried for years, and I got to a
Speaker 2: point of feeling a basic level of comfortability with the
Speaker 2: eachingk but I realized it was not for me, it
Speaker 2: was not my tool. And by then I had really
Speaker 2: begun to work extensively with Trope, and so I put
Speaker 2: the eaching aside, and every once in a while I
Speaker 2: will go back and pull out my eaching books and
Speaker 2: look at them again, usually around the first of the year,
Speaker 2: just to see what might be going on. And it's
Speaker 2: still not my tool.
Speaker 1: And that's okay, now, I think that's a really good point.
Speaker 1: It's really important to try these different tools to see
Speaker 1: which resonate with you, and if they don't resonate with
Speaker 1: you right away, don't necessarily give up on them. But
Speaker 1: do know that one or two of these will always
Speaker 1: call to you and will just feel to come naturally
Speaker 1: to you as well. Hey guys, if you're going to
Speaker 1: be near Long Island in July, I hope you'll come
Speaker 1: see me at Amineville Apothecary Thursday night, July twenty third,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be teaching my manifest Miracles class. It
Speaker 1: will be a fun, interactive class. Will you learn how
Speaker 1: to use crystals, feng shui, and powerful thought techniques to
Speaker 1: truly master the art of manifesting. The class covers how
Speaker 1: to identify and clear old patterns that are holding you back,
Speaker 1: the science behind manifesting, and how to use imagery to
Speaker 1: train your subconscious to manifest for you. Then an agus
Speaker 1: I'll be teaching an Intuitive Development weekend hosted by the
Speaker 1: Edgar Cacar will be at the Wild Acres Retreat Center
Speaker 1: in Little Switzerland, North Carolina, from August twentieth to the
Speaker 1: twenty third. Hope to see you this summer. Why don't
Speaker 1: you tell us about reading tea leaves?
Speaker 2: Okay, because tea leaves are an interesting thing, you know. Come,
Speaker 2: I got the ones with the names that I can't pronounce. Okay,
Speaker 2: it means reading tea leaves, or coffee grounds or wine sediments.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that when I started. This research comes
Speaker 2: from the French word cassie. I know I'm not pronouncing
Speaker 2: that right, which in turn derives from an Arabic word
Speaker 2: and from a Greek word. So studying of tea leaves
Speaker 2: is really where this comes from. It can be traced
Speaker 2: back to medieval Europe fortune tellers, who developed their readings
Speaker 2: from splatters of wax, lead, and other molten subjects. This
Speaker 2: evolved into tea leaf reading in the seventeenth century, a
Speaker 2: short time after Dutch merchants introduced tea to Europe via
Speaker 2: their trade routes to China. As you might well imagine, Scotland, Ireland,
Speaker 2: Wales and England have produced a number of practitioners and
Speaker 2: authors on the subject, and English potteries have crafted many
Speaker 2: elaborately beautiful teacup sets, especially designed and decorated to aid
Speaker 2: in fortune telling. There's a great book called The Encyclopedia
Speaker 2: of Alcoutism and Parapsychology by Jay Gordon Melton, and he
Speaker 2: says that you should use loose tea that is cut
Speaker 2: uniformly in shape and size, so he recommends oolong Earl
Speaker 2: Gray de Jarling as best. Certainly not to use a
Speaker 2: tea bag because you can't see the tea. Don't put
Speaker 2: anything else in the cup, no sugar, cream or lemon.
Speaker 2: The point isn't good tasting tea. But clean wet leaves
Speaker 2: for your reading, and use a white tea set, he says,
Speaker 2: although it's okay to use one of the tea leaf
Speaker 2: reading cup and saucer sets on the market. So here's
Speaker 2: what he says to do. After a cup of tea
Speaker 2: has been poured without using a tea strainer, the tea
Speaker 2: is drunk and poured away so that the cup can
Speaker 2: be shaken well and any small amount of remaining liquid
Speaker 2: in the bottom can be drained off into the saucer.
Speaker 2: Out of the cup and into the saucer. So basically
Speaker 2: what you want is wet leaves with no liquid. The
Speaker 2: person who's doing the reading looks at the pattern of
Speaker 2: tea leaves in the cup and allows the imagination to
Speaker 2: play around with the shapes suggested by the The shapes
Speaker 2: of the tea leaves as in the bottom of the
Speaker 2: cup may look like a letter, or a heart, or
Speaker 2: a ring or lots of other things. And these shapes
Speaker 2: are interpreted intuitively by a fairly common set ofism in
Speaker 2: order to figure out what the message is from the leaves. So,
Speaker 2: for example, I, as the tea leaf reader, may look
Speaker 2: at your cup, Samantha, and look at the tea leaves,
Speaker 2: and I may see the shape of a dog's head,
Speaker 2: for example, in the cup, and that may mean something
Speaker 2: to me intuitively that I need to tell you about,
Speaker 2: either symbolically for yourself or about one of your dogs.
Speaker 2: And then he also says that it is traditional to
Speaker 2: read a cup from the present to the future by
Speaker 2: starting along the rim at the handle of the cup
Speaker 2: and following the symbols down in a spiraling manner until
Speaker 2: you reach the bottom, which symbolizes the future. In the
Speaker 2: distant future, most readers see images only in the dark.
Speaker 2: Tea leaves against a white or neutral background, So we'll
Speaker 2: also read the reverse images formed by seeing the symbols
Speaker 2: that form in the white negative spaces with a clump
Speaker 2: of dark leaves forming in the background. So really basically
Speaker 2: this is saying is that there are ways in which
Speaker 2: you can examine the symbols looking from the top of
Speaker 2: the cup down into the bottom. As the further deeper
Speaker 2: into the cup you go and look at the leaves,
Speaker 2: you may see more into the distant future. And you
Speaker 2: can also see not only images in the leaves on
Speaker 2: the white background of the cup, but the reverse may
Speaker 2: be true. The images in the white around the tea
Speaker 2: leaves may also be important. And in conclusion, he says
Speaker 2: that certain Western circles need to remember that one should
Speaker 2: not use tea that has been taken from a tea bag,
Speaker 2: or one should not use a symbol dictionary, and the
Speaker 2: reason for this is that the tea and tea bags
Speaker 2: is cut too finely to form recognizable figures in the
Speaker 2: cup and tea leaf reading has its own historic set
Speaker 2: of symbolism that doesn't necessarily correspond with other symbols other systems,
Speaker 2: So you might want to find a really good book
Speaker 2: on tea leaf reading. I find it interesting that if
Speaker 2: you go to the Twining Tea Leaf Tea Company's website,
Speaker 2: they have a section on their website on tea leaf reading.
Speaker 2: And I'm sitting here right now with a cup of
Speaker 2: Earl Gray tea from the Twining Company.
Speaker 1: That is so cool. Have you ever tried it? No?
Speaker 2: And I have to tell you that you're gonna laugh
Speaker 2: at why I have it if you're a Harry Potter
Speaker 2: fan and you have watched Harry's response to trying to
Speaker 2: learn the tea leaf reading mechanism, and I think it's
Speaker 2: in the order of Phoenix, and he and Ron have
Speaker 2: such a hard time so they just make stuff up.
Speaker 2: I think that it's just not meant for me. I
Speaker 2: don't think I can see the symbols. That's the way
Speaker 2: perhaps you're supposed to in a really serious manner.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it would be neat because, similar to
Speaker 1: what we were talking about with pendulums or doing a
Speaker 1: crystal reading or a scrying with a crystal, it allows
Speaker 1: your intuition to really wander, because if that looks like
Speaker 1: a dog to you, then that might be your intuition
Speaker 1: telling you something. And if that looks like a mountain
Speaker 1: to you, Well, then that might mean the person is
Speaker 1: coming up against some challenges. So it's kind of nice
Speaker 1: that it's open ended that way. But I've never tried
Speaker 1: it either. All I can think of as you're talking
Speaker 1: is that scene from Outlander or she gets her tea
Speaker 1: leaves red before she goes through the stones.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't mean to make light of it,
Speaker 2: because I think it can be a legitimate divination tool.
Speaker 2: I can do this thing, and I bet you do
Speaker 2: it too. If I look at a picture of a tree,
Speaker 2: for example, I can see faces in the leaves, and
Speaker 2: then you look away and you look back and the
Speaker 2: face is gone. Has that ever happened to you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: So I wonder if that would not also be the
Speaker 2: same for tea leaf reading. If, for example, I were
Speaker 2: to try it, and I might see some kind of
Speaker 2: symbol for me that resonates for me personally. I do
Speaker 2: like the idea that the symbology in tea leaf reading
Speaker 2: is separate and distinct for itself as a divination tool,
Speaker 2: And I don't know what those are. So it may
Speaker 2: be that if I'm good at seeing faces and pictures
Speaker 2: of trees. I might do fairly well at tea leaf
Speaker 2: reading at some point I do have some loose tea.
Speaker 2: I may try it.
Speaker 1: You know. I can see faces and images in crystals
Speaker 1: and stones much more easily. And something that popped up.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was my pinterst or my
Speaker 1: Instagram feed, but there's a rock museum in Japan that
Speaker 1: is just rocks of faces and like naturally forming rocks
Speaker 1: and nature that look like people. Isn't that crazy? I
Speaker 1: would love to see that museum.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be interesting? I know?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Let's talk about palmistry, which I am just
Speaker 1: so fascinated by, and I've been doing a huge deep
Speaker 1: dive into palmistry lately. I recently got a book called
Speaker 1: The Art and Science of Handreading by Ellen Goldberg. Highly
Speaker 1: recommend it. It's just super in depth, and that book
Speaker 1: teaches you how to tell time on the palm lines
Speaker 1: as well. Many believe palmistry began in India, but there's
Speaker 1: even an ancient document of Aristotle where he described in
Speaker 1: detail a palm reading in his History of Animal's book. Palmistry,
Speaker 1: also called chiromancy, is simply the art of learning to
Speaker 1: read the lines in are palm. There are four main lines,
Speaker 1: the heart, life, head, and fate lines that are said
Speaker 1: to indicate marriage, children, career, family, even travel. In addition
Speaker 1: to learning the meetings of the lines, palmist will also
Speaker 1: look at the shape of the hand and fingers, and
Speaker 1: this is usually where you should begin a palm reading
Speaker 1: is first examine the person's hand shape. A solid, square
Speaker 1: shaped hand with short fingers is associated with the element
Speaker 1: earth and tends to represent someone who is solid, logical, practical,
Speaker 1: and grounded. Someone with long, thin fingers and a square
Speaker 1: palm is associated with air. They will go through life
Speaker 1: as intellectual seekers of wisdom. If you have a long
Speaker 1: palm and short fingers, you have a fire hand, indicating
Speaker 1: someone with a passionate, emotional, confident temperament. If you have
Speaker 1: a long palm and long fingers, you have a water hand,
Speaker 1: indicating that you are compassionate, intuitive, and empathic. There are
Speaker 1: also mounds that need to be learned, so each finger
Speaker 1: corresponds to a planet. For example, the pinky finger is
Speaker 1: the mercury finger, and the fleshy pads under these fingers
Speaker 1: are called mounds. So under your pinky finger is the
Speaker 1: mound of mercury. The mound under your index finger is
Speaker 1: called the Jupiter mound. The fleshy part under your thumb,
Speaker 1: that's the Mount of Venus. If yours is big and squishy,
Speaker 1: it can indicate a passionate person. If it's flat or nonexistent,
Speaker 1: it can mean that the person is a bit out
Speaker 1: of a touch with their emotions and the sensual side
Speaker 1: of life. Opposite the mount of Venus is the Mount
Speaker 1: of Luna. If you have a fleshy mound here, you
Speaker 1: are naturally intuitive, and the center of our palm is
Speaker 1: called the plane of Mars. The main line running under
Speaker 1: your fingers across your palm is called the heart line.
Speaker 1: It's concerned with all relationships of the heart and also
Speaker 1: reveals how we deal with intimacy and connection. A long
Speaker 1: heart line indicates an open, generous heart, grounded in the
Speaker 1: here and now. Breaks on the heart line that often
Speaker 1: look like circles or islands or dots on the line
Speaker 1: can indicate heartache. Short thin lines running across the heart
Speaker 1: line can also indicate painful times. If the heart line
Speaker 1: is connected to the headline, which is just below it,
Speaker 1: this can indicate someone who's very sensitive and tends to
Speaker 1: rule by the heart and not the mind. If it's
Speaker 1: straight and parallel with the headline, it shows someone who
Speaker 1: is balanced and in control of their emotions. Under the
Speaker 1: heart line, as I said, we have the headline, which
Speaker 1: indicates how we think, process and relate to life's challenges.
Speaker 1: A solid, straight line indicates a person with a good
Speaker 1: head on their shoulders. A broken, chained, or wavy line
Speaker 1: can indicate challenges. When it's chained with the lifeline at
Speaker 1: the start, it can point to a difficult childhood. If
Speaker 1: the headline has an arc, it indicates creativity. If it's
Speaker 1: a faint line or cut in two, it can point
Speaker 1: to someone who's emotionally weak or fragile. A wavy headline
Speaker 1: points to someone who can't focus very well. If the
Speaker 1: headline is separate and parallel to the lifeline, this shows
Speaker 1: an outgoing, confident person. The lifeline is under the headline.
Speaker 1: Now keep in mind this line does not reveal the
Speaker 1: length of your life, so if you have a short
Speaker 1: life line, it doesn't mean you're going to have a
Speaker 1: short life. Instead, it indicates your vitality and energy levels,
Speaker 1: your zest for life. So a small lifeline points to
Speaker 1: someone who gets tired easily, a long lifeline and shows
Speaker 1: someone who's full of life, passion, and ideas. If you
Speaker 1: have a light lifeline one that isn't clearly marked, it
Speaker 1: indicates someone who's timid and shy. Circles or islands on
Speaker 1: the lifeline can indicate health issues. The fate line typically
Speaker 1: goes from the center of your palm and travels straight
Speaker 1: up to your fingers, traversing the other three main lines
Speaker 1: we've just talked about. The fate line points to career
Speaker 1: opportunities and can indicate how much of a follower you
Speaker 1: are in terms of traditions and expectations, because a missing
Speaker 1: fate line indicates you tend to march to your own drum.
Speaker 1: A strong fate line often points to someone who's had
Speaker 1: their whole life mapped out, either for them or from
Speaker 1: an early age they just always knew what they wanted
Speaker 1: to do. A broken fate line indicates job changes. Two
Speaker 1: fate lines can indicate two separate careers at the same time. Now,
Speaker 1: we also have the Sun or Mercury line, which travels
Speaker 1: up towards your pinky or mercury fingers, and it's said
Speaker 1: to be on the palms of people who will be
Speaker 1: known in their career. It's often called the line of success.
Speaker 1: The marriage line. This is a short line that's above
Speaker 1: your heart line and under your pinky finger. If this
Speaker 1: line branches, it can indicate a separation. Two strong marriage
Speaker 1: lines can indicate two marriages. Breaks or islands on this
Speaker 1: little marriage line can point to separations or troubles. Grills
Speaker 1: on the marriage line indicate many ups and downs. Double
Speaker 1: marriage lines can indicate two loves in your life, not
Speaker 1: at the same time. Many marriage lines can point to
Speaker 1: a complicated love life. If the marriage line is close
Speaker 1: to your heartline, it's said to indicate that you will
Speaker 1: marry younger in life. If it's closer to the pinky finger,
Speaker 1: it can indicate marriage later in life. So are you
Speaker 1: following me so far down? I feel like I threw
Speaker 1: a lot out there.
Speaker 2: I am sitting here looking at both of my hands
Speaker 2: as you're talking, and I'm saying, oh, wait, it just
Speaker 2: it is that right, Oh look at that. Yes, I
Speaker 2: guess I'm following you, and well do I have a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff? But all you're doing is bringing up
Speaker 2: more questions for me? Really? I mean, well, it's fascinating.
Speaker 1: It is fascinating. And it's really interesting to make a
Speaker 1: study of your palms. I for anyone over forty, I
Speaker 1: recommend you get a magnifying glass with a light on it.
Speaker 1: That has really helped me a lot to identify some
Speaker 1: of these lesser known lines. But it's neat to study
Speaker 1: because your dominant hand, the hand you write with, the
Speaker 1: hands you throw a ball with, that's the hand that
Speaker 1: shows the here and now your non dominant hand shows
Speaker 1: kind of the blueprint, like with the possibility, the potential,
Speaker 1: And it's fascinating to study both palms and look at
Speaker 1: the difference.
Speaker 2: And two boy are different. I was doing that as
Speaker 2: you were talking, and I had known that from having
Speaker 2: had so many readings with Jane. I see and know
Speaker 2: the difference in what you're saying and my two palms.
Speaker 2: While the major lines are very similar, the criss crosses
Speaker 2: and the depths and the hatch marks around them are
Speaker 2: very different in the two poems.
Speaker 1: Now, if you have an itchy palm, it can mean
Speaker 1: that things are getting ready to change for you. So
Speaker 1: I think that's fascinating because if you do start to
Speaker 1: study the lines in your palm, even if you don't
Speaker 1: know what they mean right now, if you just start
Speaker 1: to make note of them on both hands. You'll see
Speaker 1: that the non dominant hand doesn't change a whole lot,
Speaker 1: but your dominant hand those lines will change. If you
Speaker 1: have a lot of lines extending into your palm under
Speaker 1: the pinky finger, between the heart and headline, you will
Speaker 1: be well liked in life. These are called popularity lines.
Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating to really study these lesser known lines.
Speaker 1: If you have two parallel little vertical lines just below
Speaker 1: and between your pinky and middle fingers, this can indicate
Speaker 1: talent in the creative arts. For or more vertical lines
Speaker 1: directly under the pinky finger is called the healer's mark
Speaker 1: and reveals a natural talent toward healing others. Now, the
Speaker 1: Mystics Cross. I've seen this misrepresented so much online. The
Speaker 1: Mystics cross is a separate cross, meaning it is not
Speaker 1: a cross made by the fate line crossing the other
Speaker 1: major lines. So many people make that mistake. It is
Speaker 1: a separate cross all to itself between the heart and headline,
Speaker 1: and this indicates psychic ability. And you can have more
Speaker 1: than one. So if you have the Mystics cross, it's
Speaker 1: between the heart and headlines and it's not part of
Speaker 1: any other lines. It's its own separate thing. Now, if
Speaker 1: you have a mystics cross, as I said, it does
Speaker 1: indicate natural psychic ability or an interest in studying esoteric pursuits.
Speaker 1: So if you are talking to someone who's a total
Speaker 1: skeptic or something, it doesn't mean that they are necessarily psychic,
Speaker 1: but they will be interested in something on the fringe,
Speaker 1: which I have found to be really true. Do you
Speaker 1: have a star under your amount of apollo, which would
Speaker 1: be right under your ring finger? So if the lines,
Speaker 1: tiny little lines all cross to make a star shape,
Speaker 1: that can indicate that you're destined for wealth and fame.
Speaker 2: I'd like to think that's what that is. Let me
Speaker 2: look at my other hand. Hold on a minute.
Speaker 1: It got a little toothpick.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, we can just carve it
Speaker 1: in their dumb.
Speaker 2: But you know that does bring up a point. Is
Speaker 2: that one of the when you talk about the magnifying
Speaker 2: glass and the light, which is a great idea, but
Speaker 2: we used to put our palms on the glass of
Speaker 2: a Xerox machine.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I make a photocopy. So if you have stars, triangles,
Speaker 1: and squares on your palm, these are good signs. They
Speaker 1: represent either success or support or help. Breaks in the line,
Speaker 1: islands or circles can indicate challenges. So I just think
Speaker 1: it's so cool to really look at the lines on
Speaker 1: your palm and see what they mean for you. And
Speaker 1: now that I'm learning how to tell time, it's really
Speaker 1: cool because my fate line is very faint, and I
Speaker 1: think that's because I don't like to follow rules and expectations,
Speaker 1: but I will. And my fate line breaks right at
Speaker 1: my headline at the age of thirty, and then it
Speaker 1: starts again. And that's exactly when I started leaving traditional
Speaker 1: teaching and doing this work.
Speaker 2: Isn't that fascinating? Tell me again what that star is.
Speaker 1: You're still looking for your star. It's under your ring finger.
Speaker 1: And so if you have, like food, five lines that
Speaker 1: criss crossed to make a star.
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's a question, because I'm comparing again my
Speaker 2: two palms and my left palm. I'm right handed, so
Speaker 2: my left palm the Paul came in took this lifetime
Speaker 2: with the blueprint. While the major lines, as I said,
Speaker 2: are the same, I don't have nearly the depth of
Speaker 2: the little catch marks and crisscrosses. And stars and so
Speaker 2: forth in my left hand that I have in my
Speaker 2: right hand. So does that indicate that I have worked
Speaker 2: harder at making some of those things happen in this
Speaker 2: lifetime because they've shown up in my dominant hand or not.
Speaker 1: I've read different things on that, and what I think is, take,
Speaker 1: for example, if you were building a house and you
Speaker 1: had a blueprint for the house, how clean would that
Speaker 1: blueprint look? There would just be the lines outlining the
Speaker 1: house and you could see it and off you go.
Speaker 1: And then if you drew an actual representation of what
Speaker 1: the house looked like when it was finished building, it
Speaker 1: would be much more complicated and detailed. That's how I
Speaker 1: think the different palms of our non dominant and dominant
Speaker 1: hand appear, because the non dominant is just here's your potential,
Speaker 1: here's what's supposed to happen. And then you're dominant hand
Speaker 1: is whoa, here's what happened. Like a lot more stuff
Speaker 1: was filled in.
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes a whole lot of sense.
Speaker 1: I think it is really cool to study, and it's
Speaker 1: a wonderful way to get to know yourself a little
Speaker 1: bit better. And you know now that I'm learning to
Speaker 1: tell time on the line, it's so cool to be
Speaker 1: able to use it even to predict things. Ellen Goldberg
Speaker 1: has a wonderful YouTube channel where she talks about palmistry
Speaker 1: and gives a lot of tips as well. And I've
Speaker 1: just I've learned so much from her book and so
Speaker 1: many other wonderful palmistry books that are out there. It's
Speaker 1: just it's great. And every different book I read or
Speaker 1: person I study under presents a different tip or something
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I just think it's it's really fun.
Speaker 1: And you know, I've always used palm reading as just
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know. If I'm out somewhere, very
Speaker 1: often people will say to me, oh, I hear that
Speaker 1: you're a reader, that you're intuitive. Can you read me?
Speaker 1: And if I'm in like a crowded group with people
Speaker 1: out and about, I don't. I can't, you know, because
Speaker 1: students who have taken my classes, No, it takes me
Speaker 1: so long to ground my energy, open my chakras, bin
Speaker 1: my chakras. So it's always been nice for me to
Speaker 1: have this, Oh well, let me look at your palm.
Speaker 1: And what I always really was doing was holding their
Speaker 1: palm and using psychometry to tune in and try to
Speaker 1: get some messages for them. But now I can use
Speaker 1: psychometry and palmistry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It's a fascinating, fascinating tool. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Okay, So before we wrap up, we just want to
Speaker 1: mention that when using divination tools, it's very important to
Speaker 1: say a prayer or affirmation of intent before you do
Speaker 1: this work, so you can protect your energy, set your boundaries,
Speaker 1: and assure that you're only working with positive energy. An
Speaker 1: example would be I pray and intend that only positive
Speaker 1: energy surrounds us work so that I am led to
Speaker 1: answers meant for my highest good at this time, or
Speaker 1: I call on my guardian angels and highest guides to
Speaker 1: assist me in seeking answers and inspiration and the light
Speaker 1: of love. Because the key with all these divination tools
Speaker 1: is that you're using them to access your unconscious, your
Speaker 1: higher self, the calling of your heart, which is where
Speaker 1: all answers truly exist. As you begin to work with
Speaker 1: these tools, you will learn to trust yourself and your
Speaker 1: inner guidance. It is this inner trust, not the tools themselves,
Speaker 1: that will help you awaken and develop your intuition. These
Speaker 1: tools can help you ignite the seeker within and help
Speaker 1: you realize that you can be your own psychic and
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