WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.160 Good evening viewers this week on the nonprofits. We are 2 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:07.839 going to start off in Texas, where the LGBTQ community 3 00:00:08.119 --> 00:00:12.640 and academia just cannot seem to coexist if it weren't 4 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:16.679 for the very special right wing folks in control of 5 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:18.679 the government. And I'm going to kick it over to 6 00:00:18.719 --> 00:00:20.920 Aaron Jensen for a greater explanation. 7 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:22.239 Aaron, take it away. 8 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:25.640 Yeah, Texas State Representative Brian Harrison and about a dozen 9 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:28.960 of his fellow lawmakers have quote vowed to take drastic 10 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:33.159 action end quote against any Texas public university that offers 11 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:37.799 LGBTQ sexuality programs. They're also super grumpy that the University 12 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:41.799 University of Texas systems new policy offers free tuition to 13 00:00:41.799 --> 00:00:44.840 any families making less than one hundred thousand dollars because 14 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:48.119 of some very large endowments they've received late recently. Unfortunately 15 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:50.960 for Representative Harrison and his friends, the funny they want 16 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:53.200 to cut off to the university doesn't actually come from 17 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:55.640 Texas State coffers and they can't do anything about it. 18 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:57.679 Looks like someone needs to learn a lot how their 19 00:00:57.719 --> 00:01:00.560 government works. Oh wait, it's more like he's just runing 20 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:02.960 to score points from his base right. And this story 21 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:06.000 is from the Christian Post by Ian M. Giatti on 22 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:08.120 November twenty seventh, twenty twenty four. 23 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:09.239 Thank you, thank you. 24 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:12.480 Yeah, you know, I have to chuckle anytime I hear 25 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:18.480 these Christian Christian demagogues nowadays having a problem with sexuality. 26 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:22.640 I mean, doesn't Christianity have enough sexual problems of its own? 27 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:25.840 I mean the book I have heard described as a 28 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:30.239 sex manual or a I don't know, do not have sex. 29 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:33.120 Manuals, do not sex man do not do not sex manual. 30 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:38.079 Right, So to hear them having a problem with anything 31 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:40.640 that relates to sex, I have to point the finger 32 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:42.799 back at them. But you know, Aaron brings up a 33 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:44.560 good point, and Eli, I want to get your take 34 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:49.519 on it. Is this only about education, of course, or 35 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:51.640 could it relate to something else tax dollars? 36 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:54.239 Aaron says, maybe scoring points with his base. What do 37 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:54.680 you think? 38 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:59.359 Yeah, so it's I firstly, I don't think it has 39 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:02.560 much anything to do with the tax dollars. I think 40 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:05.599 that it's intended to send a message to LGBTQ plus 41 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:10.400 people in Texas universities from you know, from whether named 42 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:13.719 Brian Harrison, we are not welcome here. We don't want 43 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:16.520 you here. Your experience and your life isn't valid, and 44 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:18.599 we don't care. I think that's the message he's trying 45 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:21.599 to send, And whether he actually believes that or not 46 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:25.319 doesn't matter, because just like Aaron said, he's trying to 47 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:28.120 earn points with his base. Politicians have learned that they 48 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:31.080 don't have to believe the things that the Christians believe 49 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:33.719 or the Whoever's believe. They just have to say the 50 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:36.159 things that they believe and get them to agree with 51 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:39.240 them for a different reason. So if you know, certain 52 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:43.960 politicians want, you know, stricter immigration because it's better for business, 53 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:46.719 because it keeps more laborers in other countries where there's 54 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:48.759 fewer safety regulations that they don't have to pay them 55 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:51.759 as much, they can have their business over there and 56 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:55.560 get their borders restricted. By playing into the narrative or 57 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:59.759 into whatever, what do you call it, rhetoric that you 58 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:03.759 know that their voter base is agreeing with. They don't 59 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:05.439 have to agree with what they're saying, they just have 60 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:07.120 to say it. And they've learned that, and I think 61 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:07.800 that's what's happening. 62 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:11.560 Yeah, yeah, And so I guess staying in power probably 63 00:03:11.639 --> 00:03:13.919 has something to do with this right wanting to stay 64 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.280 of power, wanting to maintain the status quo of said 65 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:22.039 power structure. And we know that Texas is a conservative 66 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:25.439 and right leaning state, and so yeah, there are some 67 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:28.400 kind of checkboxes that you have to hit in this 68 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:32.120 day and age where things are very polarized and people 69 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:35.319 are probably as uninformed as they've ever been. 70 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:37.520 They just hear the buzzwords and they keep going. 71 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:40.400 And you know, Kelly, I want to get your take 72 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:45.240 on how this power structure in Texas can be challenged 73 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:48.680 by a more expansive education, if that's possible. 74 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:52.759 Texas does have your reputation for leading an individual liberty, 75 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:57.479 freedom and limited government according to them, So I don't 76 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:00.560 know how you can expand And honestly, I think this 77 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:02.759 is one of the problems that the left has had 78 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:05.319 over the last few years. We're not standing up to 79 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:10.280 misinformation and bullying enough, and I think that's one of 80 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:13.280 the reasons of the left maybe had lost the last election. 81 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:15.080 So I don't know if I can say that right not. 82 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:15.919 I'm hoping I can. 83 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:19.360 But uh, I think we're good. I think we're good. Cool, Yeah, 84 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:20.199 I thought so. 85 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:24.800 I'm pretty good at walking right up to the line. Yeah, 86 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:28.279 I'm not sure. I because we've been talking about educating 87 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:31.079 the public about these issues, and I think we we 88 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:33.759 have at least put those issues out there. We've talked 89 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:38.560 about them. But the misinformation just like snowplowed right over 90 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:44.160 us and we couldn't see. I'm from the north, so snowplow. Yeah, 91 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:46.480 and we didn't fight back enough, I don't think. 92 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:47.720 And that's I think. 93 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:49.720 So I don't know. I'm not really sure how we 94 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:53.800 can well educate people more, right, misinformation? What what kind 95 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:57.160 what examples of misinformation should we be fighting back against 96 00:04:57.240 --> 00:04:59.759 or should the left be fighting back against? You know, 97 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.199 one of the goofy crazy things that I seen on 98 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:06.439 social media was and and was actually repeated by some 99 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:10.439 politician was that kids were going to school and have 100 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:12.839 gender reassignment surgeries at school. 101 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:15.120 Donald Trump said that. Donald Trump said, not going to 102 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:18.920 name any names. Okay, Okay, I will, I will. I mean, 103 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:21.240 that's not a criticism. I mean, this is what the 104 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:24.040 guy said. He said that, he clearly said that it's wrong. 105 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:25.879 Uh yeah, but you're right. 106 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:28.800 I mean, I think there has to be some kind 107 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:33.600 of public outcry against this stuff, right, and. 108 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:36.160 When you get and then when you get you know, well, 109 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:39.519 the problem is we're dealing with the Carlin effect, right, 110 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:43.360 George Carlin at average intelligence isn't really that smart, and 111 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:44.759 half the people are dumber than that. 112 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:47.000 So when you when you. 113 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:50.600 Say things like what Trump was saying, people will kind 114 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:53.600 of latch onto these ideas because they're already anti trands 115 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:57.279 to begin with. So here's this person in authoritious authority 116 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:00.360 figure who is just telling me what I want to believe. 117 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:02.680 So of course I'm going to believe it because he's 118 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:03.720 you know, he's the man. 119 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:05.480 So much to unpack there. 120 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:08.000 We could take this conversation in so many directions just 121 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:11.199 based on that. But yeah, I want to stick to education. 122 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:14.160 I want to jump over to Aaron Aaron stunning introduction. 123 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:16.279 Thank you very much for taking us down this path. 124 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:21.360 You like the idea of free education. Does Brian Harrison 125 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.439 actually have a point though? I mean, should these studies 126 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:28.160 be reserved for private institutions those of us that uh 127 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:32.519 want to see Christianity and other dogmas kept in their churches, 128 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:35.240 kept in their homes? Should we not be surprised? 129 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:35.639 Right? 130 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:36.279 Should we? 131 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:39.800 Should we be saying, okay, well that applies maybe to 132 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:42.000 gender studies or LGBTQ studies. 133 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:44.160 Why is it? Why is it not fair? 134 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:45.000 Uh? 135 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.959 With the shoe on the other foot, Uh, well at all. 136 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:53.720 Now, these studies definitely belong in public universities because it's 137 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:56.319 a university. The point of going to a university is 138 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:58.959 to get a degree, and that degree certifies that you 139 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:02.879 have specific knowledge. And if your degree it relates to 140 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:06.360 LGBTQ and sexuality, you're going to need to take lgbt 141 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:10.360 sexuality classes to gain that knowledge. And that's just for 142 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:14.000 people that are majoring or minoring in those kinds of things. 143 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:15.720 There's an expected level of knowledge you're going to need 144 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.160 to know when you graduate. And by taking those classes out, 145 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:20.560 what they're doing is saying, anybody that's going to have 146 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:23.000 any kind of major in this area, go somewhere else, 147 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:25.040 go to some other university, go to some other state, 148 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:28.000 which I guess that's his prerogative to do. But what 149 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:32.199 they're really doing is they are absolutely terrified of education 150 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:36.079 because when people get educated, they become a little more skeptical, 151 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:40.519 they take a little more rationally, and that slowly eats 152 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:45.319 away at religion. Religion. The number of people that identify 153 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:48.839 as non religious is increasing every year in the United States. 154 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:51.040 I think we're now twenty five percent of the United 155 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:55.959 States population people identify as none, and that terrifies religious people, 156 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:58.160 and so they are trying whatever they can do to 157 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:01.639 activate their base, activate the people, do whatever they can 158 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:03.560 to force their religion down because they can see that 159 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:07.120 their religion is dying. Not only that, I think rationally, 160 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:10.040 they know that their religion doesn't have a leg to 161 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:12.000 stand on. And when you're out there in the world 162 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:14.879 and you're listening to the nuns, to us out there saying, well, 163 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:17.560 this is why your religious ideas are kind of iffy. 164 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:20.680 You know, these are the reasons why the Bible maybe 165 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:23.720 not might not be trusted because half of it was 166 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:26.600 made up. We don't know who wrote, you know, the Bible. 167 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:28.680 When they're confronted with these kind of facts, what are 168 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:31.160 their choices, Well, their choices are to either accept it 169 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:33.519 or double down. And so they're just they're doubling down. 170 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:36.960 This is their ever to double down, and they're doubling 171 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:41.080 down by trying to exclude LGBTQ studies from our universities. 172 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:43.600 You know, I saw an excellent clip today and something 173 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.200 I really am not exposed to a whole lot, but 174 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:48.759 There was a guy on a video I was watching 175 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:51.519 that had a Bible from I think it was eighteen 176 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:56.000 twenty three, and a lot of the verses were not there, 177 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:58.799 like some things were not there, you know. And it's 178 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:03.600 so interesting that bibles, how often Bibles can change. I 179 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:06.600 don't think that people realize that that Bibles are crafted 180 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:08.480 to fit a certain model. 181 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:12.399 And look at the Bible in Oklahoma. This isn't biblical. 182 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:14.919 This isn't biblical. But the Bible that Oklahoma trying to 183 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:18.000 roll on schools contains the US Constitution, except it doesn't. 184 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:21.360 It contains some of the amendments are missing from the Constitution. 185 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:24.799 And you think, well, why would you do that? This 186 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:25.759 is just what people do. 187 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:27.000 They that's a good segue. 188 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:28.960 They exclude this stuff they don't want anymore. 189 00:09:29.559 --> 00:09:31.759 Before we move on real quick, I wanted to point 190 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:35.120 out that you think of these classes as like somebody 191 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:39.639 majoring in LGBTQ issues, But there's other people who are 192 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:44.720 taking these classes for information too, like counselors and psychologists. 193 00:09:44.919 --> 00:09:47.879 And this is saying that you know, you cannot study 194 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:50.159 these things to deal with a lot of the people, 195 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:52.279 because let's face it, a lot of these people go 196 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:55.759 through traumatic experience in their lives because of their identities, 197 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:59.840 and we're taking we are literally taking away the education 198 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:02.120 of the people who would be able to help them. 199 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:04.399 Yeah, tramatic experience. 200 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:08.879 If you were to ask these people, they would act 201 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:12.320 as if these courses are being jammed down every throat 202 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:15.440 of every person studying every major. And what you don't 203 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:20.960 understand is that gender studies, LGBTQ studies are humanity studies. 204 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:23.799 I mean, these could go along with a degree in 205 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:27.600 biology or in anthropology, in sociology. There are a lot 206 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:31.600 of good reasons for a lot of different minds, people 207 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:35.399 focused on different types of educations. To have a little 208 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.320 hint of that, I went to college at a Catholic college, 209 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:43.600 not because of the religion. I was already almost an atheist. 210 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:46.919 I went there for other reasons. Good programs otherwise. But 211 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:51.759 they make everybody study at least fifteen credits in or 212 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:54.799 excuse me, at least nine credits. 213 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:58.799 In religious studies. And you know, why would that be important? 214 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:02.480 You know, obviously there's a little bit of a difference 215 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:05.120 there because that wasn't a public college, but it's. 216 00:11:04.960 --> 00:11:07.320 All the same. Like I got a little bit out 217 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.240 of that. In fact, I would say contributed to me 218 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:10.080 being an atheist. 219 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:13.519 In any case, I want to stick with the idea 220 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:18.480 of religion and politics that Aaron so eloquently laid out, 221 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:21.279 and I want to go to Eli, Eli, Why do 222 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:24.720 you think there is such a tendency for the Right 223 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:30.039 and for Christianity to coalesce so often in so much 224 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:31.360 What are your thoughts on that. 225 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:33.919 I think it sort of has to do with kind 226 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:36.799 of what I was describing earlier, Like basically, you have 227 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:38.960 you have these two parties that at this point are 228 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:42.600 just kind of dedicated to opposing each other essentially on 229 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.080 almost all topics just for the purpose of opposing each other. 230 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:49.000 So one side picks one platform, the other side picks 231 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:53.159 another platform, and then they start appealing to the groups 232 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:57.279 that agree with them, they're electorates, and that just so 233 00:11:57.399 --> 00:12:00.159 happens that the Right found a lot of common and 234 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:03.279 ground with, you know, some with with a lot of Christians, 235 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:05.720 and that's who they started appealing to, and it's kind 236 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:08.080 of just snowballed from there, I think, I mean, I 237 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:10.639 think that that might primarily have a lot to do 238 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:14.200 with it. It just seems to with when you look 239 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:18.720 at the idea of being traditional being you know, conservative being. 240 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:21.919 You know, I don't know where the idea of you know, 241 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:25.080 like how like having that there are some things that 242 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:27.399 I think don't really quite mesh well with Christianity, but 243 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:29.279 I think they found enough common ground that they're just like, 244 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:31.639 this is who we're going to appeal to, and started 245 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:32.440 doing a pretty good. 246 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:32.840 Job of it. 247 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:38.240 Yeah, you know, I feel like it's Christianity is so lazy, 248 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:40.240 you know, because it doesn't take a whole lot of 249 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:41.639 effort to be a Christian. 250 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:44.919 You just say the things that people tell you to say. 251 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:48.519 If you walk around pretending that you read the good book, 252 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:49.600 you haven't read the book. 253 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:50.360 You know. 254 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:52.720 I get into arguments and people. 255 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:55.120 Say, well, I've read a good bit of it, and 256 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:57.399 I'm like, yeah, that means you haven't read it. 257 00:12:57.519 --> 00:12:58.759 Yeah, yeah, you haven't read it. 258 00:12:58.919 --> 00:12:59.080 Right. 259 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:03.120 It's so it's so lazy, and it's so disc forgiveness, 260 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:04.080 that's how yeah, right. 261 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:06.600 And I feel like there are a lot of aspects 262 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:10.039 on the you know, with the with with conservative agendas 263 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:13.000 really that also allow that. 264 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:14.360 You know, it's kind of. 265 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:17.919 Like the government saying we're going to stay out of 266 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:19.639 your hair and you can do whatever you want, and 267 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:21.440 there will be less rules and will take less of 268 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:23.679 your money, and it's kind of more of a free 269 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:26.759 for all that if the Democrats or the Liberals, depending 270 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:29.200 on where you know, where you're at, you know. 271 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:30.440 We're in control anyway. 272 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:32.799 I don't know I see a dichotomy there, but I 273 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:36.480 do see the hatred of religion coming out a lot 274 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:39.200 when it comes to Republicans. And and we we have 275 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:44.399 talked about this before the weaponization of the Republican Party. 276 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:47.200 You know, a lot of that hatred comes from the Bible, 277 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:49.320 comes through Christianity, and it's kind of filtered through the 278 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:50.159 Republican Party. 279 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.279 And Aaron, I just wanted to kind of get your 280 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:55.519 take on that, Like, do you see more hateful rhetoric 281 00:13:55.600 --> 00:14:01.360 nowadays because of the alignment between you know, Conservative America 282 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:03.799 and traditional religious outlets. 283 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:07.600 I think this this started back from what I understand, Yes, 284 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:12.159 it seems like the rhetoric is more intense, it's more bigoted, 285 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:15.279 it's more divisive than it ever has ever been. But 286 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:17.679 I could just be that I'm paying more attention to it. 287 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.440 I don't know. From what I understand, this kind of 288 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:23.559 all started with New Gingrich in the nineties. This this 289 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:32.799 slow descent into fanaticism, the divisiveness, taking advantage of the 290 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:37.399 Christian the Christians as part of their base. I think 291 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:40.080 what the Republican Party did a really good job of, 292 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:42.120 and now this is what they're suffering from, is they 293 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:46.039 turned their voters into single issue voters where the only 294 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:52.080 issue that matters is abortion. Right soon and as soon 295 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:54.559 as you turn somebody or as soon as you become 296 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:57.960 a single issue voter, it no longer matters who you 297 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.279 vote for. You're only voting for a party, and suddenly 298 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:04.600 you become party over country. And that's exactly what that 299 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:06.840 and that's what Donald Trump exposed. You know when he 300 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:09.720 said in the first election, I could shoot someone on 301 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:11.000 First Avenue and I would lose it. 302 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:14.120 He votes fifth Avenue, Aaron, fifth Avenu. 303 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:16.279 Sorry, fifth aven I would lose it. He votes. He 304 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:20.120 was true because his base are are Singlish voters. It 305 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:22.279 doesn't matter what Donald Trump does, They're voting for him. 306 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:22.639 Yeah. 307 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:25.120 Right, And you know what that speaks to kind of 308 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:27.399 the conversation that that Kelly and I had a little 309 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:31.840 bit earlier. So you know, the power structure, right, Christians 310 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:35.879 are upholding this thing because, like we've alluded to in 311 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:40.600 this conversation, they are losing ground, they're losing their influence. Aaron, 312 00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:45.600 you you showed or talked about the rise of nuns, 313 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:47.039 and how's that for? Uh? 314 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:50.360 Transgender? I never thought I would consider myself a nun, 315 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:54.279 but here I am. You know, so anyway, Uh, you 316 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:54.600 know the. 317 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:57.279 Rise of people claiming to be non religious or atheists. 318 00:15:57.320 --> 00:16:00.559 You know, I think that speaks to what happened if 319 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:02.879 people actually get an education and at Kelly, I want 320 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:04.759 to get your take on that. You know, what happens 321 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:08.600 to the citizens of Texas or to the Texas government 322 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:12.440 if people get an education on sexuality and gender studies? 323 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:15.039 What happens to the government. Oh my gosh, they might 324 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:19.200 might actually be helping somebody in the community. I think 325 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:22.279 what would happen in the long run if we would 326 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:25.399 actually get this pass through being able to have these 327 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:28.639 classes and actually teach people this kind of thing. I 328 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:31.000 think we would have better health care. I don't know 329 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:34.200 how much it would affect the educational system. I know that. 330 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:37.559 I mean, people are going to take the classes for 331 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:40.519 the career that they want, that they want. They're not 332 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.840 going to just take this class for the fuck of it. 333 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:45.360 For the most maybe somebody will I used to take 334 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:47.799 classes like that sometimes, But I mean, this is not 335 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:50.799 something that everybody's going to be forced to take. If 336 00:16:50.799 --> 00:16:52.720 you're going to be an accountant, you don't have to 337 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:54.919 take this class. Right, You've got a business degree, you 338 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:57.120 don't have to take this class. So I don't know 339 00:16:57.120 --> 00:16:59.759 that it's going to affect the educational system that much. 340 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.679 But what it could do is it may affect social standards, 341 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:07.960 like people will start to accept the LGBTQ community instead 342 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:12.880 of ostracize it, which is happening really really really badly now. 343 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:16.440 As Aaron mentioned earlier, it's gotten worse, and that's because 344 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:20.799 they want abortion now. They need a single issue again, 345 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:24.839 and that issue is the LGBTQ community, and they're coming 346 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:28.519 out full strength against them. And it's scary, wow, because 347 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:30.839 this is I mean, like you can't. I mean, we 348 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:35.039 saw what happened some violent things that happen with abortion clinics, 349 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:38.839 But you're talking about adults, right, so adult Like it's 350 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:42.400 easy to attack an adult instead of a building. See 351 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:46.319 one couple of gay guys walking home one night boom, right, 352 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:47.960 And this is the kind of thing that I worry 353 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:51.680 about when we ostracize the community and they're making that 354 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:54.920 the one single issue, just like they did with abortion. 355 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:55.960 It's kind of scary. 356 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:59.279 It is scary, and this is why after the election 357 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:03.440 so many people felt a sense of hopelessness for such 358 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:06.279 a while. I think, I think generally the aura is 359 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:09.839 improving and people you know, are kind of accepting their 360 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:13.160 new reality and you know, not so down in the dumps. 361 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:16.400 But it is scary. Nonetheless, you know, I want this 362 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:20.759 country to make progress. And on that note, I think 363 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:23.799 what I want to do is a little lightning round here. Gentlemen, 364 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:26.319 I'm going to go down the strips, starting with Eli 365 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:27.440 and Aaron and Kelly. 366 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:31.359 Let's give it about thirty seconds. Each most important thing 367 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:33.359 you took away from this article, go ahead. 368 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:37.519 I think it's that, well, from the discussion more than 369 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:41.680 the article, that when people start to get into areas 370 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.960 where they're experiencing diversity and experiencing people that aren't like them, 371 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:49.000 that hold that like conservativism has on people kind of 372 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:52.799 sense to like fizzle out. And that's what taking away 373 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:54.920 the you know, these types of studies is going to 374 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:59.680 take away from that or is going to strengthen that 375 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:02.759 whole that conservativism has on those minds because they're not 376 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:04.440 being exposed to other ideas. 377 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:06.240 Okay, excellent, Aaron. 378 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:08.799 My big takeaway from this book is, and to quote 379 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.680 Sean Connery from Indiana Jones, the last crusade that goostepping 380 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:16.039 morons like these people should try reading books instead of 381 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:20.240 burning them. Maybe they should go take an LGBTQ sexualities 382 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:23.480 class instead of trying to ban them. Or maybe they 383 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:27.119 just say I'm not interested in taking an LGBT class, 384 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:29.240 but other people can do what they want to do. 385 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:32.480 Maybe they should be stand for individual liberties like they 386 00:19:32.519 --> 00:19:37.240 supposedly are, instead of cramming their morality down everybody's throat. 387 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:40.519 What are they so angry and scared of? Anyway? We 388 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:43.000 should not be scared of knowledge, Kelly. 389 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:46.119 Two things stood out to me. One the hypocrisy of 390 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:50.920 Christian nationalism. Quote from Harrison. I'm sick of my constituents 391 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:55.319 tax dollars being weaponized against them, their values, and their children. 392 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:58.279 But it's okay for him to weaponize it against people 393 00:19:58.279 --> 00:20:01.839 he doesn't agree with. That was a number. Two was 394 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:04.839 another quote for him. Leftives have been put in charge 395 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:08.119 of our public universities and the inmates are now running 396 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:11.960 the asylum. This guy actually thinks public schools are in asylums, 397 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:15.279 So why why is left wrong? Why is right right? 398 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.640 And right right? And it was a kind of a 399 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:21.759 Freudian slip an idea which is embodied in this bill 400 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:25.559 also taking away d I DEI funding, so it's not 401 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:29.039